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sokomine |
regarding technic: does each cirquit now need a switching station? |
| 00:37 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: Yes. |
| 00:39 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: Also, you may want to try the rewrite branch. I plan to merge it as soon as it is properly tested. |
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sokomine |
those switching stations are pretty expensive...and they need alloys that are usually created using the machines |
| 00:49 |
SegFault22 |
So it seems that the hard drive can not be found, although it is connected, in the other computer I want to sue for the server. Restartng it makes it throw either "BOOTMGR is missing" or "disk read error" errors. Any tips? |
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SegFault22 |
use* |
| 00:51 |
thexyz |
reinstall |
| 00:53 |
SegFault22 |
reinstall? |
| 00:55 |
SegFault22 |
I'll consult a person instead. forget that this was asked. |
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thexyz |
yeah, sure |
| 01:27 |
* Kacey |
throws a pony at NekoGloop |
| 01:28 |
NekoGloop |
:< |
| 01:28 |
Kacey |
| Today: Throw-ponies-at-NekoGloop-day |
| 01:28 |
Sokomine |
what do you do if you don't have a pony at hand? how do you craft one? |
| 01:29 |
Sokomine |
will it cause lag? |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
!op |
| 01:29 |
* Sokomine |
looks concerned! |
| 01:29 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Craft a pony |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Throw-popcorn-at-NekoGloop-day |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
ah hahaha |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
no more NekoGloop days |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
aw :( |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
Craft a pony is better |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
ok put it back then |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
spoilsport :P |
| 01:30 |
PilzAdam |
!deop |
| 01:36 |
* Kacey |
crafts a pony |
| 01:36 |
Kacey |
I WIN! |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
no bones mod here, so I can't craft one :( |
| 01:37 |
* VanessaE |
puts a spare unicorn in the recycle machine |
| 01:37 |
Tesseract |
I already crafted one, like this: |
| 01:37 |
Tesseract |
o |
| 01:37 |
Tesseract |
--- |
| 01:37 |
Tesseract |
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| 01:38 |
Tesseract |
3x3, like the default crafting grid. :-) |
| 01:38 |
Kacey |
ooh... i had to use a 6x6 table and some xychorium, but mine is better! |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
there, got a pony out of it... anyone have a use for the leftover pair of wings, horn, and magic dust? :) |
| 01:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, can I have the wings pls? |
| 01:43 |
* VanessaE |
hands PilzAdam the leftover wings and puts the rest in the public chest |
| 01:43 |
* PilzAdam |
flys away with the wings |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:44 |
* Kacey |
grabs the horn |
| 01:45 |
* VanessaE |
puts the pony in NekoGloop's pile |
| 01:45 |
* Tesseract |
grabs the magic dust |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
I have a pile of pony guts. |
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| 01:46 |
ShadowNinja |
It's surprising how high 0gb.us is on the ircstats, considering how long he has been gone. |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
he still pops in every now and again. |
| 01:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Last seen: 58 days ago. |
| 01:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Or perhaps with a unlinked nick? |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
!seen [0gb_us] |
| 01:47 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: Sorry, I haven't seen [0gb_us] around. |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
bah |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
or us_0gb also |
| 01:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, that nick hasn't been around for months, not sure about [0gb_us]. Although he normally goes by Guest00000 now |
| 01:50 |
ShadowNinja |
He is higher than me, and I was here before him, and am here after him. :-( |
| 01:50 |
* ShadowNinja |
floods the channel to increase his stats. ;-) |
| 01:51 |
ShadowNinja |
At least I rank. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
how do you get those stats? |
| 01:52 |
ShadowNinja |
http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
ah\ |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
how the...? |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
I'm at the top? |
| 01:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, in every stat... |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
the random quote that came up is certainly appropriate :) |
| 01:53 |
ShadowNinja |
(At least those relating to text output) |
| 01:55 |
ShadowNinja |
I wonder where he gets his logs, maybe from loggingbot_? |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
beats me |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
I've never thought to ask |
| 01:56 |
ShadowNinja |
I wonder why loggingbot_ when loggingbot (without the underscore) is available. Perhaps it was registered at the time, but users don't usually drop nicks. |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
maybe as a backup? |
| 01:57 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: loggingbot (no underscore) is available, perhaps you would like to have your bot nick to it? |
| 02:02 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, nothing exciting on thw wiki... |
| 02:02 |
ShadowNinja |
(new) |
| 02:04 |
ShadowNinja |
I actually have more that one user on my server for the first time in a while. :-) |
| 02:06 |
ShadowNinja |
How does the LandRush server have so many? They must have a very powerfull server in a datacenter or have loads of lag. |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
no clue there either |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
but it's depressing in a way (because they aren't on my server :P ) |
| 02:14 |
* ShadowNinja |
liked the days when there were only four or five servers on the list. |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:19 |
* NekoGloop |
noms VanessaE's hair |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:20 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
depressed :( |
| 02:25 |
* ShadowNinja |
crafts VanessaE a pony to cuddle with. |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
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| 02:34 |
Kacey |
nice... 20th on the list |
| 02:58 |
kaeza |
lol most referenced nicks |
| 02:59 |
* NekoGloop |
curls up in VanessaE's lap |
| 03:02 |
ShadowNinja |
heh, MinetestBot got kicked 9 times. I thought it was supposed to be doing the kicking. |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
cute :) |
| 03:04 |
NekoGloop |
mew~ :3 |
| 03:04 |
ShadowNinja |
Although sfan being top on kicking isn't much of a surprise. |
| 03:05 |
ShadowNinja |
Wow, 1330 topic changes. |
| 03:07 |
ShadowNinja |
The statistics generator should also work with ShadowBot's logs. :-) Although I would like to know perl before using it... |
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* ShadowNinja |
runs "head #minetest.log" |
| 03:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Remember when Exio made every node into a liquid?... |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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| 03:41 |
aldobr |
hi all |
| 03:41 |
aldobr |
ended up going back to mageia 3 |
| 03:42 |
aldobr |
how to compile minetest from sources ? |
| 03:50 |
NekoGloop |
magic |
| 03:51 |
ShadowNinja |
aldobr: Read README.txt |
| 03:59 |
kaeza |
hmm... this is interesting... |
| 03:59 |
kaeza |
the UV map of the default character is wrong on the legs |
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| 04:09 |
jojoa1997 |
Hello anyone yere ? |
| 04:09 |
jojoa1997 |
Here |
| 04:09 |
kaeza |
no |
| 04:09 |
jojoa1997 |
Hi kaeza nice to see nobody is home |
| 04:09 |
kaeza |
I am not here, this is an illusion |
| 04:10 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 04:10 |
kaeza |
how goes it? |
| 04:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Good |
| 04:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Starting school Monday but that's nothing hard |
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jojoa1997 |
Oh cool 24 on the irc list |
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jojoa1997 |
Hello Not so old OldCoder |
| 04:20 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 04:20 |
* OldCoder |
is puzzled as he is Old Indeed |
| 04:46 |
aldobr |
kaeza: i believe i finished my reprap mod |
| 04:47 |
kaeza |
pic or it didn't happen |
| 04:48 |
aldobr |
i need to make it a mod |
| 04:48 |
aldobr |
currently theres only two functions |
| 04:48 |
aldobr |
one that draws lines |
| 04:48 |
aldobr |
other that parses the gcode |
| 04:49 |
aldobr |
but at least now everything that lacks is glue logic |
| 04:49 |
aldobr |
im unsure how to implement |
| 04:49 |
aldobr |
maybe a chat command ? |
| 04:50 |
kaeza |
a worldedit plugin? |
| 04:55 |
aldobr |
dont know how to make worldedit plugins |
| 04:55 |
aldobr |
actually i never used worldedit :P |
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aldobr |
kaeza: what is this param at register chatcommand |
| 04:57 |
aldobr |
params |
| 04:57 |
kaeza |
the received parameter |
| 04:57 |
kaeza |
so if you have a "/foo" command, |
| 04:57 |
kaeza |
and you call it as "/foo bar", then params is "bar" |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
hm |
| 04:58 |
ShadowNinja |
aldobr: Are you making a mod to import .blend files by any chance? |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
syes |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
yes |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
not exactly blend files |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
gcode files generated from 3d objects |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
like a 3d printer |
| 04:58 |
ShadowNinja |
I remember seeing you in #blender. |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
actually trying to mimmick a reprap |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
me ? |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
never went there :P |
| 04:58 |
aldobr |
im no 3d artist |
| 04:59 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, different person then. |
| 04:59 |
ShadowNinja |
They were doing something with .blend -> gcode. |
| 04:59 |
aldobr |
hm |
| 04:59 |
aldobr |
i believe they made a slicer |
| 04:59 |
aldobr |
but i already use slic3r |
| 05:00 |
aldobr |
kaeza: there are two param |
| 05:00 |
aldobr |
params = "something" and param |
| 05:00 |
aldobr |
whats supposed to be "something" ? |
| 05:01 |
kaeza |
ah you mean the chat command def |
| 05:01 |
kaeza |
params is a short doc about the parameters |
| 05:01 |
aldobr |
ah ok |
| 05:01 |
kaeza |
for example, params = "<filename>" |
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| 05:01 |
aldobr |
nice |
| 05:02 |
aldobr |
params = "<gcodefilename> <material> <x> <y> <z>", |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
yup |
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| 05:02 |
aldobr |
so i supose i will receive the parameters as a string in param |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
you must parse param for the required fields |
| 05:02 |
aldobr |
any quick way to split the line at space boundaries ? |
| 05:03 |
aldobr |
like torus.gcode default:mese 10 10 10 |
| 05:03 |
aldobr |
become |
| 05:03 |
ShadowNinja |
aldobr: strinh.split() |
| 05:03 |
aldobr |
ok |
| 05:03 |
aldobr |
thanks |
| 05:03 |
ShadowNinja |
aldobr: See builtin/chatcommands.lua for examples. |
| 05:06 |
aldobr |
omg |
| 05:06 |
aldobr |
i believe i finished |
| 05:06 |
* aldobr |
expecting the machine to explode |
| 05:07 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in again |
| 05:14 |
aldobr |
mageia urpmi makes my computer miserable |
| 05:31 |
aldobr |
mageia stable can install only the 0.4.3 version |
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| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
can't you just compile it? |
| 05:51 |
aldobr |
i can compile |
| 05:51 |
aldobr |
err. i will, i tested every other distro around and returned to mageia |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
interesting choice |
| 05:52 |
aldobr |
this page http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest has instructions only for apt-get based systems |
| 05:52 |
aldobr |
mageia uses urpmi |
| 05:52 |
aldobr |
ah |
| 05:52 |
aldobr |
iirc |
| 05:53 |
aldobr |
nevermind |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
well the basic process is the same |
| 05:53 |
aldobr |
package names doesnt match |
| 05:53 |
aldobr |
but |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
install all the dependencies, install a proper compiling toolchain, and go after it |
| 05:54 |
aldobr |
i have c++ metapackage |
| 05:54 |
aldobr |
so i supose i just need the lib packages |
| 05:55 |
aldobr |
have to figure each equivalent package name |
| 05:55 |
aldobr |
well will be easier to go back to windows |
| 05:55 |
aldobr |
bye |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
pfft |
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| 06:18 |
Miner_48er |
how should a server celebrate a year of minetest? |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE |
a shitload of free meseblocks? ;) |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
put your server in creative mode for a week, check that nothing dangerous can be obtained, and let people have fun |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
have a 'best builds' contest in an uninhabited section of the map maybe |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE |
not a whole lot else you can do given the nature of the game, less'n you wanna invite everyone over to your house and throw a party in real life :) |
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| 06:49 |
nore |
hi |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 06:58 |
aldobr |
back |
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| 06:59 |
VanessaE |
wb. |
| 07:01 |
aldobr |
lol my mod generates so big a bug that the game crashs unrecoverably |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
oops :) |
| 07:02 |
aldobr |
access violation |
| 07:04 |
VanessaE |
no idea there except that's a bug in minetest, not in your mod |
| 07:05 |
VanessaE |
(most likely, unless you've found a way to allocate tons of memory in your mod) |
| 07:05 |
aldobr |
i added a lot of minetest.log calls to help track the bug |
| 07:05 |
aldobr |
but they generate no output |
| 07:06 |
nore |
use print ;) |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
bbl, time to hit the sack |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
nig\ht all. |
| 07:07 |
aldobr |
nore how |
| 07:07 |
aldobr |
bye VanessaE |
| 07:07 |
aldobr |
nore ? |
| 07:08 |
aldobr |
ah |
| 07:08 |
aldobr |
print(string) |
| 07:08 |
nore |
and print(dump(anything)) |
| 07:09 |
aldobr |
print dont work |
| 07:09 |
aldobr |
ah worked |
| 07:10 |
aldobr |
strange |
| 07:10 |
aldobr |
the bug is in built in split function |
| 07:10 |
nore |
because if is ain't string or int, print is not happy |
| 07:12 |
aldobr |
nore thanks |
| 07:13 |
nore |
you're welcome |
| 07:24 |
aldobr |
whats the correct path prefix to open a file from lua ? |
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aldobr |
nevermind getmodpath |
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| 08:18 |
aldobr |
lua errors without source or line number information... |
| 08:19 |
aldobr |
ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: attempt to index a nil value |
| 08:23 |
PenguinDad |
my minetest have segfaults while using firearms :( |
| 08:27 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: xchat and using a ton of regexes to convert it how pisg wants it because 1) the log messages are german 2) some logging things in xchat changed |
| 08:30 |
sfan5 |
aldobr: could be a bug in the minetest c++ code |
| 08:32 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 08:32 |
* sfan5 |
crafts a pony |
| 08:33 |
* PenguinDad |
searches for a Jack |
| 08:34 |
aldobr |
my gcode mod worked |
| 08:34 |
aldobr |
but the resulting object is ugly |
| 08:34 |
aldobr |
dont know if this is because minetest is too blocky |
| 08:34 |
aldobr |
or whatever |
| 08:34 |
aldobr |
a bigger object resulted in a eternal loop that is still running (printing a cone) |
| 08:35 |
PenguinDad |
minetest wasn't build as a cad system :P |
| 08:36 |
aldobr |
?P |
| 08:37 |
aldobr |
:P |
| 08:37 |
PenguinDad |
¡) |
| 08:44 |
aldobr |
lol |
| 08:44 |
aldobr |
the thing is soo buggy that the result is hillarious |
| 08:44 |
aldobr |
a big wall of mese blocks |
| 08:44 |
aldobr |
that goes skyhigh |
| 08:45 |
nore |
sfan5: a bug with MinetestBot: |
| 08:45 |
nore |
!rand 1 0 |
| 08:45 |
MinetestBot |
ValueError: empty range for randrange() (1,1, 0) (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 217, in randrange) |
| 08:45 |
nore |
!rand 0 1 |
| 08:45 |
MinetestBot |
0 |
| 08:46 |
PenguinDad |
!rand 1 1 |
| 08:46 |
MinetestBot |
1 |
| 08:46 |
nore |
the second works, but not the first |
| 08:47 |
aldobr |
man |
| 08:47 |
aldobr |
the thing worked |
| 08:48 |
aldobr |
incredible |
| 08:48 |
* aldobr |
`s heart palpitating |
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| 08:54 |
nore |
sfan5: if you do !rev[space], MinetestBot replies nothing |
| 08:54 |
nore |
!rev |
| 08:54 |
MinetestBot |
nore: Nothing to reverse. |
| 08:54 |
nore |
!rev |
| 08:54 |
MinetestBot |
nore: Nothing to reverse. |
| 08:54 |
nore |
!rev |
| 08:54 |
MinetestBot |
... |
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| 08:55 |
nore |
eh..., that's a bug |
| 08:55 |
nore |
because when I tried before, he did say nothing |
| 08:55 |
nore |
so I don't know where it comes from |
| 08:58 |
PenguinDad |
!rev nothing |
| 08:58 |
MinetestBot |
gnihton |
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| 09:02 |
aldobr |
how to take screen shot |
| 09:02 |
aldobr |
? |
| 09:03 |
PenguinDad |
F12 |
| 09:03 |
aldobr |
thanks |
| 09:04 |
nore |
Shadowbot! |
| 09:04 |
nore |
ShadowBot! |
| 09:04 |
nore |
looks like ShadowBot does not want to make the same as MinetestBot |
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| 09:17 |
jin_xi |
hi all |
| 09:17 |
PenguinDad |
hi jin_xi |
| 09:18 |
aldobr |
hi jin_xi |
| 09:18 |
aldobr |
my mod works ?D |
| 09:18 |
aldobr |
damm wrong keyboard |
| 09:18 |
aldobr |
:P |
| 09:22 |
jin_xi |
aldobr: so you can now 3dprint stuff into mt? |
| 09:22 |
aldobr |
yes |
| 09:23 |
aldobr |
as long as you have the gcode |
| 09:23 |
aldobr |
but results are not very good |
| 09:23 |
jin_xi |
can you post a screenshot? i still like to see that! |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
f12 |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
where the screenshot goes |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
? |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
ah |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
found |
| 09:25 |
aldobr |
bin |
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aldobr |
here |
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aldobr |
http://tinypic.com/r/2i88ja/5 |
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aldobr |
file is column.gcode |
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aldobr |
generated using freecad&slicer |
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aldobr |
just a cilinder with some radius |
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aldobr |
becomes a cylinder made out of mese |
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aldobr |
(i used default:mese as material) |
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jin_xi |
i think its quite cool! |
| 09:30 |
aldobr |
takes forever to draw more complex things |
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jin_xi |
how do you place the nodes into mt? |
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aldobr |
jin_xi: iwill pack the mod |
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aldobr |
and put it online |
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aldobr |
i printed a cone |
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aldobr |
dude the thing is blocking the sum |
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aldobr |
*sun |
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jin_xi |
cool |
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aldobr |
its huge |
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jin_xi |
i am interested in ways to make procedurally generated structures so i will have a good look |
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jin_xi |
this is what my turtle mod can do: http://i.imgur.com/TCEhNqh.png |
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aldobr |
huge cone printed out of mese blocks |
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aldobr |
http://oi42.tinypic.com/dnkbpw.jpg |
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jin_xi |
but programs are kinda unwieldy |
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jin_xi |
aldobr: nice, is it solid? you're a made man now :P |
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aldobr |
yes, its solid |
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aldobr |
its like reprap printed it inside minetest |
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aldobr |
program takes forever to run |
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aldobr |
i believe this wont be acceptable on servers |
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jin_xi |
what is it that takes so long? |
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jin_xi |
i run the turtle program and collect all positions for new nodes in a list, then use luavoxelmanip to place it in one go. this is very fast |
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aldobr |
i believe it adds the same nodes repeatedly |
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aldobr |
thats what i need |
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aldobr |
save all points to a list and then use luavoxelmanip |
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aldobr |
problem is : i dont know how to use luavoxelmanip |
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PenguinDad |
Haha: http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/Softwaredeveloperswillknow-28726.jpg |
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jin_xi |
heres my code, luavoxelmanip stuff is lines 90 and on |
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jin_xi |
http://paste.dy.fi/bjS |
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jin_xi |
its really easy |
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aldobr |
i believe you can do a better job than I |
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aldobr |
gcode processing is quite simple |
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jin_xi |
yeah, saw you working on it with kae*za yesterday |
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aldobr |
http://pastebin.com/KM0402Qb |
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aldobr |
thats the whole mod |
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aldobr |
you need gcode files |
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aldobr |
place then on the same dir as the init.lua |
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aldobr |
and use /reprap <gcodefile>,<materialname>,<x>,<y>,<z> |
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aldobr |
to print something |
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jin_xi |
ok i think this is easy to modify to use luavoxelmanips |
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jin_xi |
gimme 5 mins |
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aldobr |
im searching for a better slicer |
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aldobr |
reprap slicers have too much limitations |
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aldobr |
found a sketchup to gcode tutorial |
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aldobr |
ah its ugly |
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PenguinDad |
never watched sketchup :D |
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aldobr |
maybe this will work |
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aldobr |
http://mecsoft.com/freemill/ |
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aldobr |
but will need to redesign gcode handling in the mod |
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aldobr |
ah bait and siwtch, the program is not free |
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* jin_xi |
needs a bit longer... sry |
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jin_xi |
lol fail english |
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* PenguinDad |
gives jin_xi the bit |
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jin_xi |
thx |
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aldobr |
drill bit :P |
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BlockMen |
hi everyone |
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aldobr |
jin_xi: i will start another mod this time loading binvox files instead of gcodes |
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jin_xi |
aldobr: cool |
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jin_xi |
aldobr: can you paste the gcd file for the huge cone plz? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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jin_xi |
hello PilzAdam |
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PenguinDad |
hi PilzAdam |
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Peacock |
anyone know where i can find some geolocation code in lua? |
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Calinou |
"as well as collect and make available statistics on griefers." |
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Calinou |
if you do that, avoid revealing their IPs... |
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| 13:54 |
Peacock |
calinou anyone who hosts a server reveals their IP on good faith, why should griefers have more rights? |
| 13:55 |
Peacock |
might clarify who some of these recurring people are, in any case, i wont post them on the forum, but i will give it to anyone who asks |
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Calinou |
well, have fun defending people who get DDoS'd or such by griefer haters... |
| 13:57 |
Calinou |
give IP on requests to admins, but I wouldn't show them publicly |
| 13:58 |
Peacock |
DDoS is breaking the law where im from, im simply talking about lifting the veil of anonymity which gives griefers a sense of impunity |
| 13:59 |
Peacock |
aside, do you know a clement/Elo from Nice, havent seen those names around here or the forums :/ |
| 13:59 |
Calinou |
it breaks the law, doesn't mean people can't do it |
| 13:59 |
Calinou |
no |
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Peacock |
calinou you can get most IPs through irc unless the user is cloaked |
| 14:00 |
Peacock |
so people can just as well get DDOSed on here |
| 14:01 |
Peacock |
in any case my goal is to just help other admins avoid these nomadic griefers who are obviously trying one server after another |
| 14:01 |
thexyz |
i host my server and i don't reveal my ip |
| 14:03 |
Peacock |
well its not that hard to look up a dynamic host either |
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thexyz |
Peacock: what are you going to do btw? |
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Peacock |
collect usernames, ips, locations, and pastebin it to anyone who asks for it |
| 14:05 |
thexyz |
oh that's ok, just don't post them on forums |
| 14:05 |
thexyz |
don't post link to that pastebin either |
| 14:06 |
Peacock |
i know that, the post wouldn't stand long anyways lol |
| 14:07 |
Peacock |
putting it on the forums would just enable spiders and spambots to collect that shit anyhow, |
| 14:07 |
Peacock |
i might hate griefers but i wouldn't wish spam on my worst enemies lol |
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sfan5 |
nore: that bug is already fixed, i just forgot to "git pull" |
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Jordach |
well that's a first misclick |
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* Jordach |
clicked sticky topic by accidentr |
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Jordach |
-r |
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Jordach |
hey Calinou |
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Calinou |
hi |
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* Semilevel |
is away: 500 Away |
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Jordach |
Semilevel, we don't like away notifications |
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* away |
is relevant |
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Jordach |
haha |
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Sokomine |
how do i override one singular texture that i don't like on a server? |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
use a texture pack ;) |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
you need to find the texture name yourself, though |
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Sokomine |
the question is rather: where do i place the single texture that i intend to replace? |
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Sokomine |
didn't care much about texture packs yet |
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DanDuncombe |
What should I dowith 10 full stacks of cobble? |
| 15:47 |
PenguinDad |
/pulverize :> |
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DanDuncombe |
But I am sure they could be useful |
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Sokomine |
discretely place a chest somewhere, put the cobble in and run away pretty fast :-) |
| 15:48 |
Sokomine |
there are some textures out there where cobble is a decorative building material - in combination with other materials |
| 15:48 |
Sokomine |
and there's at least one server where you can sell cobble |
| 15:48 |
DanDuncombe |
That is my Minetest problem- I hoard. Instead of /pulverize, I just have warehouses full of chests, in turn full of useless crap like dirt, cobble and coal. |
| 15:49 |
Sokomine |
with newer builds, you can turn coal into a coalblock. that's a very nice material for roads |
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Peacock |
freebuild should be a little safer now with autorevoke :-) |
| 15:49 |
DanDuncombe |
I have 1 chest of coal, 7 of cobble and 5 of dirt. I just counted. |
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Sokomine |
danducombe: yes, that happens. pretty common. how about taking some of your other materials and building something? just don't use cobble alone because that would look ugly |
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DanDuncombe |
BTW, is there a WORKING fix for the inventory images bug? |
| 15:52 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, I have moreblocks mod installed. That, plus cobble, could yield some nice structures. |
| 15:52 |
Peacock |
inventory image bug? |
| 15:53 |
Peacock |
that old bug where it shows your browser image cache? |
| 15:53 |
Peacock |
ie (minetest with pron) :p |
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DanDuncombe |
Peacock: Every item in the inventory has either a) Wrong texture or b) a random messed up colour |
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Peacock |
oh yeah that old bug, i thought it had been fixed? haven't had it in a long while |
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DanDuncombe |
Nope, I still have it. |
| 15:54 |
Peacock |
if its a bug at all, could be a driver issue |
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DanDuncombe |
##Vazon-Server |
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DanDuncombe |
Woops sorry] |
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DanDuncombe |
It is a driver issue I think but 12me21 made a fix. However the fix had a lua error so I didn't bother debugging it. |
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Peacock |
what driver are you on? |
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Peacock |
and for fun, did you try preload item visuals? |
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kahrl |
DanDuncombe: could be that your driver doesn't do RTT properly; you could try my optimize_invtex branch which does that stuff in software |
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DanDuncombe |
Preload item visuals is even worse |
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Peacock |
an easy way to find out then, try switching drivers |
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kahrl |
just rebased to current master and pushed |
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DanDuncombe |
How to 'switch drivers'? |
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Peacock |
depends, whats your OS/dist? |
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ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Autoban, autorevoke, what's next? auto-satelite-targeting-and-laser-frying? |
| 15:58 |
Peacock |
if i could, i would lol |
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DanDuncombe |
I am on Windows 7 startet |
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Peacock |
you got that from X-Files btw :p |
| 15:58 |
Peacock |
windows 7, hmm, could be trickier |
| 15:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Nope, I haven't watched that show. |
| 15:58 |
Peacock |
ShadowNinja when people decide to behave themselves on public servers, i won't need it, until then i do |
| 15:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Auto satellite targeting with laser ranging and terahertz-beam mollecular dissasembly device. |
| 15:59 |
Peacock |
i can't babysit every single new user that comes on and decides to wreak havoc on freebuild |
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ShadowNinja |
Peacock: I find that removing interact from default_privs works very well. |
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Peacock |
works until they ask for interact and you grant it and they pull that shit anyways |
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Peacock |
at least this way i know right away who to keep and who to toss |
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ShadowNinja |
Peacock: But it rignificantly reduces it. /rollback_check (or grep) /rollback and /ban can be used for the few that abuse the privilege. |
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Peacock |
the few? |
| 16:01 |
Peacock |
roflmao |
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Peacock |
the ratio of serious players/builders to griefer is like 1 in 30 lol |
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ShadowNinja |
Peacock: I only get greifings oonce every week or so... |
| 16:02 |
Peacock |
well i get a group of brazilians at regular intervals, along with a few odd individuals who try every day |
| 16:02 |
Peacock |
nick-ban gets most of them now |
| 16:02 |
Peacock |
but i still need autorevoke since two french players this morning totally wrecked the only nice freebuild area |
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ShadowNinja |
You only have a few designated freebuild areas? |
| 16:03 |
Peacock |
most of the server is freebuild, but only one area is built-up and nice looking |
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Peacock |
either way im alot more concerned with the thoughts of people who put time into good projects than the thoughts of people more concerned with griefers-rights |
| 16:07 |
Peacock |
heck even familygrog's new server is on a white-list basis only |
| 16:08 |
Peacock |
BrandonReese had to block entire IP ranges to get rid of his own pests |
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LazyJ |
^ we've had to do that on a number of cases. |
| 16:09 |
Peacock |
even i'm considering going members-only |
| 16:09 |
LazyJ |
Sorry to butt-in, the topic is one of interest and concern for me too. |
| 16:09 |
Peacock |
no prob, could use some people on my side lol most seem more interested in defending/protecting griefers and troublemakers lol |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
is brandon still using the .hosts file to ip-range block? |
| 16:10 |
LazyJ |
We have on player who waxed poetic about the history of roaming marauders and how it is just human nature, so on and so on. |
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Peacock |
well we haven't had that in my country for 200 or 300 years lol |
| 16:11 |
LazyJ |
The difference is "griefers" are people sitting on their butts, hiding behind a keyboard and anonymity, with nothing better to do with there time except to cause trouble. |
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Peacock |
the anonymity part bugs me yeah lol |
| 16:12 |
LazyJ |
At least this guy's fantasized marauders had to risk their lives. |
| 16:13 |
Peacock |
more and more im geolocating ip's on my ban list to see where they're from |
| 16:13 |
Peacock |
there are a few sites out there that give IP ranges for entire countries |
| 16:13 |
LazyJ |
That can produce mixed results, as players go. |
| 16:14 |
Peacock |
at least it tells me if theyre using proxies (changing locations) |
| 16:14 |
LazyJ |
We've had trouble with Italians in the past, now we have an Italian admin. |
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Peacock |
me its brazilians, i have a feeling they all leave their server at the same time and come on mine lol |
| 16:14 |
LazyJ |
Germans, good and bad, same for Brazil, Europe... the geolocation isn't the indicator. The character if of the individual is. |
| 16:14 |
LazyJ |
Yeah, it can seem like that at times. |
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PilzAdam |
Peacock, make topic in the forums where you list all the griefer's IPs and locations, and tell them that you add their IP to the list when you ban them |
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Peacock |
PilzAdam can't do that |
| 16:15 |
LazyJ |
For several months I had to constantly keep an eye on our "Italian Mafia". |
| 16:15 |
Peacock |
im not even sure they'd let me list username/location |
| 16:15 |
Peacock |
german players are the best, they get the rules and explain it to eachother, i haven't had to ban a single one |
| 16:16 |
Peacock |
i wish we could publicly shame griefers though, might put them off |
| 16:17 |
LazyJ |
On the perverse side, some griefers would revel in the notoriety. :/ |
| 16:17 |
Peacock |
but they would also know that every other server admin has seen the list |
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PilzAdam |
Peacock, why cant you do that? |
| 16:18 |
Peacock |
because thexyz, calinou |
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jin_xi |
hellban would be nice |
| 16:18 |
LazyJ |
If there were a way to lock-out regions and assign a passcode to individual players in the generated world. |
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PilzAdam |
I dont see anything in the rules against a blacklist |
| 16:18 |
Peacock |
don't want me posting IPs (and probably other identifiable information) |
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Peacock |
well i'll need clarification before i go and do something that might get me banned :p |
| 16:19 |
LazyJ |
New comers are dumped in a free-for all zone. |
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PilzAdam |
Peacock, if you get banned for it then Ill repost it |
| 16:20 |
Peacock |
jin_xi : hellban? LazyJ thats why i got nations |
| 16:20 |
LazyJ |
After they've built something decent, they get a passcode to another area of the map. |
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LazyJ |
Each time a player want's to move up, they must prove themselves somehow. |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: I object |
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Peacock |
PilzAdam well thexyz administers the forum, and he doesn't want me posting it :/ |
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Peacock |
LazyJ well my autorevoke works on a simple dig/place ratio |
| 16:21 |
LazyJ |
The ultimate goal would be to weed out the troublemakers and those that prove themselves in a number of world areas finally receive the passcode to the area of the map where no one worries about griefers. |
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Peacock |
since most griefers start right away digging everything in sight |
| 16:21 |
LazyJ |
Aye. |
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DanDuncombe |
Everything that is not dirt |
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DanDuncombe |
or sand |
| 16:22 |
LazyJ |
We've protected most of the area around our spawn but the griefers travel. |
| 16:22 |
DanDuncombe |
They take glass, fences and doors I find. |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
dig/place ratios wouldn't work on a server with surface landmasses though, unless you add an exception for default nodes |
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jin_xi |
Peacock: hellban is when you dont tell ppl that they re banned, but their actions are only shown to them |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
thats the thing, people complain they can't build around spawnpad, but if i move spawnpad to freebuild, theyll destroy everything around it lol |
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LazyJ |
Aye, the ratios a have a flaw when applied to players that prefer to build underground or just to mine. |
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Peacock |
jin_xi not sure how i could fake interact though |
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DanDuncombe |
Peacock: Make a laggy server |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
LazyJ well the ratios only apply to players who aren't citizens of any nation (newbs) |
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jin_xi |
yeah, idk if or how its possible, i just said "would be nice" |
| 16:24 |
LazyJ |
Oy... we constantly get complaints from players that want to build near or even on top of the spawn. |
| 16:24 |
Peacock |
id suggest to them to start out on the surface to get their ratio up lol |
| 16:24 |
ShadowNinja |
I would like a public ban list, but I don't think the forum is the way to do it. |
| 16:24 |
Peacock |
ugh, yeah, someone wanted me to add Y param to protection, but i dont want people building on top of other people's stuff |
| 16:25 |
Peacock |
jin_xi another way to troll griefers is start randomly teleporting them all over the place :p |
| 16:25 |
LazyJ |
Some players may be banned from a couple servers, learn their lesson and behave. |
| 16:26 |
LazyJ |
Others don't. |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
public ban list is ok if it's opt-in |
| 16:26 |
Peacock |
some players have a favorite server where they're serious, and grief on all others :/ |
| 16:26 |
ruskie |
cloak does not protect against that 100% |
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ruskie |
gah was scrolled up |
| 16:27 |
Peacock |
like the brazilian players, im sure theyre not fucking up their own server like they try to do to mine lol |
| 16:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Yes, it would be managed by a mod. The issue is which server owners to trust... |
| 16:27 |
LazyJ |
The language barrier is a big obstacle. |
| 16:27 |
ShadowNinja |
And a authentication system for them. |
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Peacock |
ShadowNinja simple, if the same name/ip shows up in more than N number of private banlists, add it to the public |
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LazyJ |
^ |
| 16:29 |
Peacock |
and make the public list opt-in obviously :-) |
| 16:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, that could work. |
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LazyJ |
That's sounds like a good piece to the puzzle. |
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Peacock |
that way, someone who's been arbitrarily banned on one server doesn't show up in public list |
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aldobr |
hi all |
| 16:30 |
LazyJ |
If several servers have banned an IP, that player has proven themselves to be nuisance. |
| 16:31 |
aldobr |
how will he prove that he was corrected " |
| 16:31 |
Peacock |
yeah, cuz when i compare notes with other admins we have alot of names in common, and certain others are unique to each server |
| 16:31 |
Peacock |
"corrected" suddenly has an image of The Shining lol |
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| 16:32 |
LazyJ |
"Heeerrrre's Johnny!" |
| 16:32 |
Peacock |
(where the guy corrected his daughters by chopping them up with an axe lol) |
| 16:32 |
aldobr |
my cgode parser worked |
| 16:32 |
jin_xi |
hey aldobr did you see the modified reprap version i posted? |
| 16:32 |
aldobr |
nope |
| 16:33 |
aldobr |
i feel sleep |
| 16:33 |
aldobr |
fell |
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| 16:33 |
LazyJ |
If the mod system is going online ingame, perhaps a server provided, opt-in, list of bans could be done as well someday. |
| 16:33 |
aldobr |
pls make the bans temporary |
| 16:34 |
jin_xi |
here: http://paste.dy.fi/byq should be faster, but i havent tested with a larger file |
| 16:34 |
aldobr |
me against the capital punishment |
| 16:34 |
Peacock |
well youd basically have "Sync" button where your private list is compared with the public, and a "Use" checkbox where the public bans is added to your list |
| 16:34 |
LazyJ |
Like the server listing service that rated the servers by uptime. |
| 16:34 |
aldobr |
jin_xi: you tested it |
| 16:34 |
Peacock |
sorry, sync would have to compare your list to other indiv. lists before adding anything to public |
| 16:34 |
jin_xi |
tested it with a small file from the net |
| 16:34 |
LazyJ |
Maybe banned IPs would change color according to the number of times they appear on other server's ban lists. |
| 16:34 |
* Kacey |
totaly forgot about his FTB pack... |
| 16:34 |
Kacey |
back to working on it |
| 16:35 |
aldobr |
ok |
| 16:35 |
Peacock |
either way, you could still have a public hall of shame list which shows usernames and the result of a geoip lookup, just with the IP obscured |
| 16:36 |
thexyz |
I'm not going to host this @ forum.minetest.net, find another place |
| 16:36 |
Peacock |
hostings' not a problem |
| 16:36 |
Sokomine |
*reading the log* |
| 16:37 |
LazyJ |
How do other online games handle things like this? |
| 16:37 |
Sokomine |
publishing ips of griefers might be very problematic. exchanging them between those who run servers might be a good idea |
| 16:37 |
LazyJ |
World of Warcraft has been around a long time, how do they handle their bad apples? |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
make global profiles |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
allow only players with global profiles to enter servers |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
ban the global profile |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
et |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
etc |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
ie.: central identity server |
| 16:38 |
aldobr |
but.... this is way harder to implement |
| 16:39 |
aldobr |
jin_xi: 13:36:46: ERROR[main]: C:\Minetest\bin\..\mods\reprap\init.lua:4: attempt to index global 'reprap' (a nil value) 13:36:46: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 16:39 |
ruskie |
bzflag supports both local and global auth |
| 16:41 |
aldobr |
jin_xi: local mat = minetest.get_content_id(material) |
| 16:41 |
aldobr |
gives nil |
| 16:41 |
aldobr |
the method is nil |
| 16:42 |
jin_xi |
oh well luavoxelmanip and stuff is only in recent mt versions |
| 16:42 |
aldobr |
im using 0.4.7 |
| 16:42 |
jin_xi |
im on git :( |
| 16:43 |
otak |
your blacklist plan is reminding me of denyhosts http:/denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#sync |
| 16:43 |
Sokomine |
peacock: on a german mc server, i get even more griefers per regular player than there are on mt servers :-( and that's a creative mc server. on mt, at least on redcrab, most players seem to be more after stealing. glowglass was extremly popular. and stonesquares |
| 16:43 |
Sokomine |
maybe you could put some cloese to spawn as a trap :-) |
| 16:44 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, I find a lot of stonesquare and microblocks laying around. |
| 16:44 |
Peacock |
well on a non-creative server i can picture theft being a problem |
| 16:45 |
Sokomine |
lazyj: what you described (moving up through building and getting rights to build in better areas) is exactly what's going on on that mc server. it works to a degree - griefers wreck harvock, but they only do so in the small freebuild-area where everyone just has to build a small house |
| 16:45 |
Sokomine |
so not too much is lost, and most is reversible |
| 16:46 |
Peacock |
so instead of protecting nations, i should setup a small playpen for newbs? |
| 16:48 |
Peacock |
anyways, ive setup #minetest-server to discuss server adminning issues (and shared bans), ill bbl @ 20 min |
| 16:48 |
Sokomine |
teleporting griefers all around the place? i'm afraid that's a misleading approach. it will show that you care about the griefer! you entertain him! your griefer will be happy and return (for a griefer, it's of no importance where he griefs...) |
| 16:50 |
LazyJ |
Aye. Giving griefers your time and attention gratifies them. |
| 16:51 |
LazyJ |
My free time is more limited now, so when I have to spend a couple hours cleaning up griefer mess I get cranky rather quickly. |
| 16:53 |
aldobr |
force people to create a level of trust by making then stuck to accounts |
| 16:53 |
aldobr |
kind of "facebook of minetest" |
| 16:54 |
Sokomine |
a working rollback would be great |
| 16:54 |
aldobr |
a new profile by default has no rights |
| 16:54 |
aldobr |
so creating clone profiles wont help the griefer |
| 16:54 |
aldobr |
he needs to develop the profile until he is given the chance to grief |
| 16:54 |
aldobr |
griefers will give up because they have low attention span |
| 16:55 |
Sokomine |
it's less worse if you can just shrug, type /rollback <griefername> and after a few seconds the "work" of the griefer is gone. plus /revoke <griefername> interact ought to get rid of them sufficiently. no real need to ban (usually) |
| 16:55 |
aldobr |
Sokomine: he gets another profile and grief again |
| 16:55 |
aldobr |
err |
| 16:55 |
aldobr |
another "ip" |
| 16:56 |
LazyJ |
Rollback as Sokomine suggests would be great. |
| 16:56 |
Sokomine |
most likely, yes. but some griefers need time to figure out what is going on - why they can't dig anymore. that gives you some time |
| 16:56 |
LazyJ |
Interact revokes have a flaw, the griefer and log back in under a different nick and continue their griefing. |
| 16:57 |
Sokomine |
btw, i heard that griefing occours even on mc survival servers - a game where you have to pay for your nick. even that does not seem to stop them |
| 16:57 |
Sokomine |
how often will they? especially if you repeat the procedure |
| 16:57 |
LazyJ |
If Mommy and Daddy are letting the griefer use their credit card, the griefer has no "financial" skin in the game. |
| 16:58 |
Sokomine |
on mc, it's also very efficient to "freeze" the culprit. he may then no longer move. that usually gets people to talk (like "help! can't move anymore!") - and they eventually listen to you. but that won't work on mt |
| 16:59 |
LazyJ |
Perhaps the key to stopping griefers is taking away their incentive. |
| 16:59 |
Sokomine |
i don't know if they just buy another account |
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| 16:59 |
thexyz |
Sokomine: why won't this work? |
| 16:59 |
Sokomine |
some of it may be boredom. and that may be one reason already why we don't get that much in mt - you can do a lot |
| 17:00 |
Sokomine |
thexyz: can you stop the player from moving around? hm, maybe by attaching him to an entity... |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
yes, this |
| 17:00 |
LazyJ |
What about an interact revoke based on IP as an option? |
| 17:00 |
Sokomine |
like that jail command that has been talked about. yes, that might be an approach |
| 17:00 |
Sokomine |
lazyj: sounds fine |
| 17:01 |
LazyJ |
An IP interact revoke would prevent them from causing trouble under a different nick. |
| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
btw, my attempt to use a texture pack (or at least some textures from it) to replace some textures with the default ones didn't work :-( they're mostly some moreores textures |
| 17:01 |
LazyJ |
The catch is that it would only work for static IPs. Dynamic IPs are a headache for admins. |
| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
and an ip interact revoke offers the option to give interact back should it have hit the wrong player |
| 17:02 |
Sokomine |
and that's good. because sometimes ips are dynamic |
| 17:02 |
* Calinou |
has a dynamic IP |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
I agree, if everyone had a static IP it'd be better. :P |
| 17:03 |
Sokomine |
oh..hm...someone thinks my small village buildings are too big? i usually get the other complaint (too small :)). but in this case...admittedly they're quite large with the "garden" around |
| 17:03 |
LazyJ |
Dynamic IPs have their uses as any tool should. It's just when dealing with determined griefers using dynamic IPs it is a problem. |
| 17:04 |
LazyJ |
Eh. Sokomine. They are just fine. |
| 17:04 |
LazyJ |
Players have to adjust their perspective to MT scale. |
| 17:05 |
LazyJ |
I find myself looking at things in real-life as if they were in MT. |
| 17:05 |
Sokomine |
hm, for mc classic standards, they'd even be extremly small. there, you don't have half-blocks (except for stairs), fences, furniture and all the other fine details |
| 17:05 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
| 17:06 |
LazyJ |
And I can see where MT's scale plays a huge part in determining the size of builds. |
| 17:06 |
Sokomine |
rl buildings are certainly an inspiration for mt builds |
| 17:06 |
Sokomine |
oh yes. i'd say the necessary enlargement factor is 3 for full blocks builds (without nodeboxes) and perhaps 2 with nodebox-like nodes |
| 17:06 |
LazyJ |
In real-life you can build a wall that is only a fraction of your body's thickness. |
| 17:06 |
aldobr |
one thing that i believe (its a gut feeling about griefers) is that they grief because they feel frustrated |
| 17:07 |
aldobr |
usually they cant build anything meaningfull |
| 17:07 |
ruskie |
or bored |
| 17:07 |
LazyJ |
In MT, everything is 1 x 1 x 1 perfect square block. |
| 17:07 |
aldobr |
its a sort of envy |
| 17:07 |
aldobr |
so |
| 17:07 |
Sokomine |
i don't know. i sometimes get the impression that most griefers are bored, don't know what to do |
| 17:07 |
aldobr |
what about a building school for novices ? |
| 17:07 |
LazyJ |
Frustrated. Bored. There are those who delight in destruction. |
| 17:07 |
aldobr |
make them feel part of the community |
| 17:08 |
Sokomine |
i've had griefers who griefed, next moment you saw them building a house, then they protected other buildings against other griefers...or they built first, didn't get sufficient attention, got bored, started griefing... |
| 17:08 |
aldobr |
so they have something to lose if they grief |
| 17:08 |
LazyJ |
Pyromaniac *love* thing being destroyed by fire. |
| 17:08 |
Sokomine |
there might be those who love destruction as well, yes |
| 17:08 |
LazyJ |
The human animal is the most messed up thing ever. |
| 17:09 |
Sokomine |
and other motiviations. it's hard to tell what they think if you just observe their pointless actions |
| 17:09 |
aldobr |
they cant get positive attention, so they resort to negative attention |
| 17:09 |
Sokomine |
fire...ought to be removed everywhere. fake fire is fine |
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| 17:09 |
aldobr |
give then positive attention before they indulge in grief |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
TIL: parents are good at crashing laptops |
| 17:09 |
LazyJ |
At work I hear a lot of pscho-babble. There are cases where kids will harm themselves just for attention. |
| 17:09 |
sapier1 |
ANNOUNCEMENT: First preview release for mobf 2.2 https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/archive/2.1.80.zip |
| 17:10 |
Sokomine |
aldobr: hmm. might be difficult with very small children. they need a lot of attention to be happy |
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PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: i learned that before |
| 17:10 |
* Sokomine |
moves all laptops away from pilzadams parents |
| 17:10 |
LazyJ |
Aaannnddd.... age is another dynamic. |
| 17:10 |
* Semilevel |
is back (gone 01:32:02) |
| 17:11 |
aldobr |
Sokomine: the minetest school might keep them busy |
| 17:11 |
sapier1 |
sokomine I recommend trying the new profiling feature for servers having issues with mobf performance |
| 17:11 |
* LazyJ |
is stepping away to brew a french press of cinnamon-hazelnut. |
| 17:12 |
aldobr |
cinamon gives me strong headaches |
| 17:12 |
aldobr |
dont know why |
| 17:13 |
Sokomine |
aldobr: i built the crafting school on redcrabs server in the hope that players may go there, see how glowglass is crafted, and stop stealing it from lampposts. it seems to have worked at least to a degree (that server does not have a craft guide) |
| 17:13 |
Sokomine |
hazelnut sounds deliscious. but...a french press of cinnamon-hazelnut? wonder what that is |
| 17:13 |
aldobr |
yeah |
| 17:14 |
aldobr |
but it needs a way to capture player attention |
| 17:14 |
Peacock |
trying to keep griefers busy with school is like trying to teach criminals to not..well, crime lol |
| 17:15 |
aldobr |
Peacock: thats the whole idea of the criminal system |
| 17:15 |
aldobr |
else we would be shooting robbers to dead |
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| 17:17 |
Peacock |
thats why my server has a jail yeah, trying to grief your way out of there is like trying to riot your way out of IRL jail lol |
| 17:18 |
aldobr |
me imagines the player/griefer screaming : "i want my lawyer !" |
| 17:19 |
Peacock |
though even there im being overly generous, you'd think after 15 warnings of "dont dig there" they'd get the hint lol |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 17:21 |
LazyJ |
Another aspect to this problem is that we are dealing with young kids who may not understand yet that it is no OK to take things from other people, even if it is in a game. |
| 17:21 |
Peacock |
well thats why im trying to figure out some lua geoip solution, if i could tell where they're from, i could chat them the rules in *their* language |
| 17:21 |
LazyJ |
If there were a way to limit interact to a certain area. |
| 17:22 |
Peacock |
tiered interact |
| 17:22 |
LazyJ |
Then, after the player has proven themselves, they are granted interact in the next area or level. |
| 17:22 |
LazyJ |
Tiered interact, yes, thank you. |
| 17:22 |
Peacock |
like with mass transit, they have zones, and different cards give access to more zones |
| 17:23 |
LazyJ |
The whole MT world could be available to them to see but they can only interact in certain areas. |
| 17:23 |
LazyJ |
If you are bad, you can see the pretty things but can only do something in the junkyard. |
| 17:24 |
LazyJ |
The tiered interact could be revoked and granted and revoked again. |
| 17:24 |
Peacock |
youd need an XP system |
| 17:24 |
Peacock |
some more evolved than my simple dig/place ratio for autorevoke |
| 17:24 |
Peacock |
*something |
| 17:26 |
Peacock |
either that or a peer-review of projects |
| 17:26 |
LazyJ |
Well, all these grand ideas and I'm left with the fact that I don't have the code savvy to bring them into fruition. |
| 17:27 |
LazyJ |
Perhaps the developers-that-be are reading some of this and are getting some ideas for future features in MT. |
| 17:27 |
Peacock |
not sure how to implement XP either beyond simple ratios |
| 17:27 |
LazyJ |
If nothings some input form the front-lines. |
| 17:28 |
Peacock |
peer review could be easier, create a special sign that's like deeds, with an upvote/downvote button |
| 17:28 |
LazyJ |
One vote per IP |
| 17:28 |
Peacock |
per user account |
| 17:28 |
Peacock |
heck throw in a trusted_users table to do the peer reviewing |
| 17:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Is pastebin a good place to keep source code for people to see? |
| 17:30 |
LazyJ |
Another approach is to try to cultivate a community of regular players on the server. |
| 17:30 |
Sokomine |
peacock: the tiered system usually works by someone (i.e. you) having a look at the buildings and decide weather to let that player further on or not |
| 17:30 |
Sokomine |
even if they don't grief but only manufacture a box out of cobble with a door, a chest and a furnace, there may be not much point in allowing them in more complex areas |
| 17:31 |
Sokomine |
yes, peer-review of projects |
| 17:31 |
LazyJ |
If there are standards that your server's community shares, they may be an effective deterrent. |
| 17:31 |
Sokomine |
lazyj: iirc node_ownership has the concept of a sandbox. it's just not used anywhere to my knowledge |
| 17:31 |
PenguinDad |
DanDuncombe: which pastebin? |
| 17:31 |
Peacock |
well my server has citizens and non citizens, the non citizens are the one eligible for autorevoke |
| 17:31 |
DanDuncombe |
The PasteBin |
| 17:32 |
PenguinDad |
pastebin.com? |
| 17:32 |
DanDuncombe |
Yes |
| 17:32 |
Sokomine |
the people doing the reviews are usually called moderators :-) |
| 17:32 |
Peacock |
anyone can build in freebuild, citizens have protection in their own countries, and i usually encourage people to put the signs in their own languages there |
| 17:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Public bans is starting to take shape: http://shadowninja.minetest.net/banlist/ |
| 17:32 |
Peacock |
nice :-) |
| 17:32 |
Peacock |
and with lua menu, it should be easy enough to set up sync and dl |
| 17:33 |
ShadowNinja |
You can use ?name=test&ip=1.1.1.1 To make it crash while I re-learn PHP. ;-) |
| 17:33 |
LazyJ |
Everything has to have a start somewhere. |
| 17:33 |
Peacock |
i'd help, but i learned php 3.0 lol |
| 17:33 |
Peacock |
like, over ten years ago i think lol |
| 17:34 |
LazyJ |
If a handful of servers start sharing ban lists, then there are that fewer servers for known griefers to attack. |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
before that it was perl/cgi lol |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
they'll all go on the servers that don't believe in it, which is fine by me lol |
| 17:34 |
* LazyJ |
still has to learn how to spell. |
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| 17:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Now a have to code a system to actually save and load the bans and reports... |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
the alternative plain and simple is most servers will end up white-list only, which sucks even more |
| 17:35 |
Peacock |
oh a Reason(s) field would be cool too |
| 17:35 |
Peacock |
"destroying projects" "placing random objects" get some idea of the severity of the transgression |
| 17:36 |
LazyJ |
How does MT's ipban handle duplicate entries of the same IP? |
| 17:36 |
Peacock |
i think it stores unique IPs, but you can end up with multiples of the same username |
| 17:36 |
ShadowNinja |
LazyJ: I imagine it stops when it finds the first? |
| 17:37 |
LazyJ |
If a plain text file of shared, banned IPs is copy/pasted into the ipban file and there are 3 or 4 IPs duplicated, will MT continue down the list or throw a fit? |
| 17:37 |
ShadowNinja |
I am not really familiar with BanManager, but I know it needs work... |
| 17:37 |
ShadowNinja |
It will continue. |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
i now the name part of the banlist is useless, since it doesn't actually check usernames, just matches IPs, for that i have http://pastebin.com/cj18Lwnt |
| 17:37 |
ShadowNinja |
(I have duplicates) |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
which saves a seperate list of usernames to ban regardless of IPs |
| 17:38 |
LazyJ |
VanessaE posts here colors.txt on her website. Something like that except as a compilation of ipban.txt files. |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
(just stepped in) |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
afternoon VanessaE |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 17:39 |
ShadowNinja |
*sigh* You implemented add_ip_range in one of the hackiest ways possible. |
| 17:39 |
LazyJ |
We use future_ban to ban by nick but it has a flaw in that you may ban some player of the same nick who isn't a griefer. So we have to be very careful when using future_ban. |
| 17:39 |
Peacock |
it would have been simpler if didn't have to init each key as a table lol |
| 17:39 |
LazyJ |
Thanks for the link, VanessaE. :) (and the colors too) |
| 17:39 |
Peacock |
i like using table[key] = true to check entries rather than looping through arrays which grow bigger |
| 17:40 |
ShadowNinja |
LazyJ: Try kaeza's xban mod. And they won't be able to connect without a correct password. |
| 17:41 |
LazyJ |
Unfortunately I don't have the server rights to install mods. Only Orby has that atm. |
| 17:41 |
Peacock |
i havent had to actually use an ip range ban yet, i only thought of it because brandon had to |
| 17:41 |
Peacock |
so figured i better have it ready in case |
| 17:42 |
Peacock |
though supposing you wanted to ban an entire country, that's alot of IP ranges to add :/ |
| 17:42 |
LazyJ |
pastebin of future_ban code: http://pastebin.com/ptjrC9Xj |
| 17:43 |
Peacock |
yeah thats like my nick ban |
| 17:43 |
Peacock |
griefers know its only IPs that are banned, so they dont yet bother to change names |
| 17:43 |
Peacock |
when they start changing both name and IP, thats when IP range bans will come in handy |
| 17:44 |
LazyJ |
We've had players savvy enough to use dynamic IPs to log in just to be irritants... to prove they "beat" our system. |
| 17:44 |
Peacock |
you can tell they don't get layed much lol |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
. . . . |
| 17:44 |
Peacock |
well why else put in all that effort to get around a ban? |
| 17:44 |
Peacock |
i cant think of a good reason lol |
| 17:45 |
Peacock |
especially when anyone can run their own server |
| 17:45 |
LazyJ |
One recent griefer was so arrogant that they left signs behind stating that if the other player hadn't left signs asking them not to take the doors then the griefer wouldn't have taken the doors. |
| 17:46 |
Peacock |
im guessing that guy when he sees a 'no shoplifting" sign he shoplifts lol |
| 17:46 |
LazyJ |
Yeah. Brilliant logic. Oy.... |
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| 17:51 |
Peacock |
lol this Gibraltar stuff is heating up, the UK even sent an aircraft carrier |
| 17:52 |
aldobr |
whats happening on gibraltar ? |
| 17:52 |
LazyJ |
Ugghhh... not good. |
| 17:52 |
Peacock |
Spain's gov't is trying to distract it's people from a bad economy lol |
| 17:52 |
aldobr |
spain and england attrition? |
| 17:52 |
aldobr |
oh well |
| 17:52 |
aldobr |
they lost to brazil 3x0 |
| 17:53 |
LazyJ |
It's not just Spain that's doing that. :/ |
| 17:53 |
aldobr |
but i believe they still can win from britain :P |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
the ridiculousness of it all is the fact they're both EU members and one of them is sending navy ships to the area |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
depends how you see the locals, as Gibraltans or English colonists |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
Spain says the latter |
| 17:54 |
Peacock |
but if theyre Gibraltans, and they don't want to be part of Spain, it's their right |
| 17:54 |
aldobr |
i dont like britain in possession of colonies |
| 17:54 |
aldobr |
britain profited a lot from exploring other countries |
| 17:55 |
aldobr |
but in gibraltar case... its pointless, they both EU |
| 17:55 |
Peacock |
is there a major European power that didn't in the last century? |
| 17:55 |
aldobr |
britain profited the most |
| 17:55 |
aldobr |
way more |
| 17:55 |
Peacock |
because they held the most territories |
| 17:55 |
aldobr |
yes |
| 17:56 |
aldobr |
so, for example, they are more responsible for current africa problems |
| 17:56 |
Peacock |
but they didn't behave any worse than any other colonizing power of the time |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
in Zimbabwe you'll find alot of people who actually miss Ian Smith |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
rapid decolonization didn't help affairs in Africa |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
in one country after another strongmen took power |
| 17:57 |
aldobr |
Peacock: a dirt little secret |
| 17:57 |
aldobr |
britain was nazist before hitler`s germany |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
search for bengal massacre |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
or bengal genocide |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
there were nazi parties in america too... |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
heck even in canada/quebec |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
well |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
they werent exactly nazi |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
history in public schools are very selective lol |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
in the sense of an organized party |
| 17:58 |
aldobr |
but britain genocided a lot of people in india |
| 17:59 |
Peacock |
like i said, show me a colonizing power than didn't |
| 17:59 |
Peacock |
*that |
| 18:00 |
aldobr |
well |
| 18:00 |
Peacock |
you can blame britain all you want, but Zimbabwe/Rhodesia before Mugabe, was known as the breadbasket of Africa |
| 18:00 |
aldobr |
i simply distrust britain more than others |
| 18:00 |
aldobr |
last month british prime minister told our president that britain wants more interaction with latin america |
| 18:01 |
aldobr |
the first thing i tought : "oh come on england, we know each other from past carnivals..." |
| 18:01 |
Peacock |
latin America is the US's backyard, before that it was Spain's |
| 18:02 |
aldobr |
nope |
| 18:02 |
aldobr |
formally, latin america was portugal and spanish possession |
| 18:02 |
Peacock |
yeah i forgot about Portugal |
| 18:02 |
aldobr |
but britain was the one who profited from trade |
| 18:02 |
Peacock |
but its not like they didn't exploit latin america any less |
| 18:02 |
aldobr |
Portugal made a asswipe job |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
they exploited |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
but they signed a treaty with britain |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
a very stupid one |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
where britain provided industrialized items and portugal provided wine |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
well, look now, who is more developed and see how that treaty worked... |
| 18:03 |
aldobr |
at some point in time 70% of european circulating gold came from Brazil |
| 18:04 |
aldobr |
via portugal |
| 18:04 |
aldobr |
right into the hands of the british |
| 18:04 |
aldobr |
now they ask us to pay "external debt" |
| 18:04 |
aldobr |
lol |
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| 18:05 |
Peacock |
depends if the debt came before or after independence |
| 18:05 |
aldobr |
independence is an arbitrary concept |
| 18:05 |
aldobr |
if it was to be honest and just |
| 18:05 |
aldobr |
it would be britain paying us back |
| 18:05 |
Peacock |
well if you vote for a government, be it left or right, and they spend the country into a hole, who's to blame? |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
if Britain had to pay back all it's former colonies, they'd have to print so much money as to make it worthless |
| 18:06 |
aldobr |
actually we are not spending into a hole, brazil has superavit |
| 18:06 |
aldobr |
but we still miss all the gold that flowed into britain |
| 18:07 |
Peacock |
even if you got all that gold back, would you trust your current leaders with it? |
| 18:08 |
aldobr |
yes, as much as a "leader" can be trusted |
| 18:08 |
Peacock |
heck even in north america we can't trust our leaders with our pension funds lol |
| 18:08 |
aldobr |
we got a kind of gold, a black gold, petroleum, in the "pre-sal" |
| 18:08 |
aldobr |
21 trillion dollars worth of petroleum |
| 18:09 |
aldobr |
making us the future largest petroleum exporter |
| 18:09 |
Peacock |
oil is always a plus |
| 18:09 |
aldobr |
we need to trust someone |
| 18:09 |
aldobr |
they edicted a law that says that 75% of the money profited from that petroleum should go to education |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
well its my opinion that when politicians have the means to buy votes, they do lol |
| 18:10 |
aldobr |
yes |
| 18:10 |
aldobr |
but people tend to protest a lot here |
| 18:10 |
aldobr |
we spent a whole month doing protests in regular intervals |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
well thats what they use the militarized police for |
| 18:10 |
aldobr |
police did nothing to stop |
| 18:11 |
aldobr |
at the end of the month they have to receive their salaries too |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
lucky, here theyve taking to "kettling" people |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
and arresting the whole lot and giving them fines |
| 18:11 |
aldobr |
they arrested people that where destroying things |
| 18:11 |
aldobr |
but this is correct |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
well yeah public property is everyone's, so i have no sympathy for braindead hooligans who destroy that |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
we just end up having to pay more tax to replace it |
| 18:14 |
aldobr |
whats the strongest navy in europe now ? |
| 18:14 |
aldobr |
russia, england, france, spain, italy ? |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
>france |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
i would have thought they'd have a united military by now |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/51599121eab8ea5b57000003-590/if-you-hit-the-im-feeling-lucky-button-after-searching-for-french-military-victories-heres-what-google-suggests-you-search-for-instead.jpg |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
from what i hear/read Italy's broke or near |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
heck they had to install Monti to clean things up lol |
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| 18:16 |
aldobr |
nah |
| 18:16 |
jojoa1997 |
hello |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
Berlusconi tried to run again and failed lol now he's in court with no way to legislate his crimes away lol |
| 18:16 |
aldobr |
all that france stuff started because they (rightly) decided not to join the immoral american war on iraq |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
well France can get away with it theyre not in nato |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
heck even Canada wouldn't touch Iraq |
| 18:17 |
aldobr |
why would a french mother cry a dead child just to fill the pockets of halitburton ? |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
Afghanistan itself is known as the graveyard of Empires |
| 18:18 |
aldobr |
eua created afghanistan |
| 18:18 |
aldobr |
err USA |
| 18:18 |
aldobr |
tis a tragic story |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
well whatever it's called now, theres not a major power that succeeded there |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
not even Britain a 100 years ago |
| 18:18 |
aldobr |
under communist rule women were able to go to universities in afghanistan |
| 18:18 |
aldobr |
under taliban rule they are dogs |
| 18:19 |
aldobr |
the bad is better than the worse, so to speak |
| 18:19 |
Peacock |
the situation there isn't about economics its about religious meddling in politics |
| 18:19 |
aldobr |
if CCCP had won that war, afghanistan would be a more civilized place |
| 18:19 |
aldobr |
russia was a ditactorship, but one way more developed than a teocentric republic |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 18:20 |
aldobr |
all that USA made in afghanistan was to breed the very same terrorists who attacked in 11/9 |
| 18:20 |
aldobr |
right back in the 80`s |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
im not crazy about 1 party or even 2 party states, i think multi-party, minority gov'ts and coalitions are the way to go |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
when you have 1 party that can take the cake, they don't have to compromise with anyone |
| 18:21 |
aldobr |
Peacock: we have like 100 parties, and at the end of the day there are only two groups, those for the goverment and those against |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
when none of the parties can have complete control, then you get something that's balanced |
| 18:22 |
aldobr |
you get corruption |
| 18:22 |
aldobr |
people being paid to vote for, or against the goverment decisions |
| 18:22 |
Peacock |
and that's somehow different with a 1/2 party state? |
| 18:22 |
aldobr |
its worse |
| 18:22 |
Peacock |
fewer people to buy off IMO |
| 18:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Alright, I need two people to go to http://shadowninja.minetest.net/banlist/?name=x&ip=1.1.1.1 to test this. |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
what bugs me more, is seeing the children of presidents/prime ministers entering politics and riding the reputations of their parents |
| 18:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: ^? |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
ShadowNinja link gives me nothing in chromium :/ |
| 18:23 |
aldobr |
ShadowNinja: empty file |
| 18:24 |
LazyJ |
ShadowNinja, the conversation has drifted into global politics. |
| 18:24 |
ShadowNinja |
It isn't fupposed to return anything. |
| 18:24 |
LazyJ |
The link is blank in Firefox. |
| 18:24 |
ShadowNinja |
But it hasn't recorded your request... |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
has it recorced some request? |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
+s |
| 18:25 |
ShadowNinja |
No errors. Try it again. It should say "Duplicate submision." after the second try. |
| 18:25 |
LazyJ |
"View Page Source" shows nothing in there. Are you sure it's uploaded to the right place? |
| 18:26 |
Peacock |
still nothing :/ |
| 18:26 |
ShadowNinja |
There are plenty of entries in my access log... |
| 18:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Time for the print() debug framework. |
| 18:27 |
LazyJ |
Hmm... still no show in Firefox nor in Chromium. |
| 18:27 |
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| 18:27 |
Peacock |
LazyJ i think it started when i brought up Gibraltar lol |
| 18:27 |
Peacock |
not quite sure i remember now XD |
| 18:27 |
LazyJ |
Probably some tiny little comma where a period should be is the culprit. ;) |
| 18:28 |
Peacock |
OCD's read everything, photographic memory doesn't help :( lol |
| 18:28 |
aldobr |
?P |
| 18:28 |
LazyJ |
Well, if we could stop the global griefers too that would be good. :0) |
| 18:28 |
LazyJ |
Eh, my memory is shorter than the hair on my bald head. |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
i cant remember numbers for some odd reason (not even my own age, address or phone number) but everything i read, i do remember lol |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
go figure XD |
| 18:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Try now. Do you at least get "loaded."? |
| 18:30 |
LazyJ |
"Loaded. Adding new report... |
| 18:30 |
Peacock |
yep says loaded, adding new report |
| 18:30 |
LazyJ |
FF and Chromium. |
| 18:31 |
Sokomine |
hmm. no change. how do i override the default_mineral_xxx/moreores_mineral_xxx textures with my own? (that on a server). havn't jused texture packs |
| 18:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh! |
| 18:32 |
LazyJ |
Sokomine, have you replaced the png image/texture in moreores/textures? |
| 18:33 |
LazyJ |
There are some duplicated ores in the default game (gold, bronze, copper) so you may be seeing them instead. |
| 18:33 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock, LazyJ: Try now. |
| 18:34 |
LazyJ |
For Wazuland, I had to edit the default game files and moreores files to include the "Default " and "MoreOres " distinction that shows up on mouse-over. |
| 18:35 |
LazyJ |
ShadowNinja, "Duplicate submission." |
| 18:35 |
PenguinDad |
ShadowNinja: it works :) |
| 18:36 |
ShadowNinja |
LazyJ: You refreshed multiple times I imagine. |
| 18:36 |
LazyJ |
Yup, I've got several windows open, confused a few. :)- |
| 18:38 |
Sokomine |
do i have to duplicate the folder structure under textures/all ? right now i just dumped the files in there. changing the textures in my local mods would most likely only affect those local ones? but i want to change those on servers |
| 18:39 |
Sokomine |
in this case. the copper one because that's far too small and can hardly be seen. on of the farming-plus-strawberries might also be a good idea - replaced it locally because it's hardly distinguishable from the harvestable fully-grown fruit |
| 18:40 |
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| 18:41 |
DanDuncombe |
Why am I not allowed to add a modpack to the Mod Database? |
| 18:42 |
LazyJ |
Sokomine, for my own "custom" blocks, I put the png images in the mod's texture folder. |
| 18:42 |
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| 18:43 |
LazyJ |
But those images are for the custom blocks... hmmm... |
| 18:43 |
LazyJ |
Are you trying to override the moreores default textures? |
| 18:44 |
LazyJ |
Or are you trying to replace all the textures for all blocks? |
| 18:44 |
LazyJ |
Calinou's conversion of "Misa" is a good study. |
| 18:46 |
LazyJ |
If you are creating your own mod to override a default texture, the I think you have to re-register the block in your mod and provide your texture in the mod's texture folder (sokomine_mod/textures). |
| 18:46 |
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| 18:46 |
aldobr |
... any chance of render to texture being implemented |
| 18:46 |
aldobr |
" |
| 18:46 |
aldobr |
? |
| 18:47 |
LazyJ |
Hey, waidahminut... this is where the game developers hang out. They know this stuff inside and out... literally. |
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| 18:47 |
LazyJ |
Don't take my advice unless it's about brewing coffee. ;)- |
| 18:49 |
Sokomine |
i'm kind of...trying to use my own texture pack to replace a few selected textures on a server |
| 18:49 |
Sokomine |
havn't bothered with texturepacks otherweise because my buildings have to look good in whatever the default textures are |
| 18:49 |
LazyJ |
Ah. |
| 18:50 |
Peacock |
ewww : http://www.thestar.com/news/2013/08/16/crushing_a_cronut_burger_at_the_cne.html?utm_content=buffer30d51&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer |
| 18:51 |
LazyJ |
Then you have to know the exact file name of the image that the server is using, and then use a different image but same name in your client. |
| 18:51 |
Sokomine |
ok. where do i put that image? |
| 18:51 |
Sokomine |
that's the question i'm asking :-) |
| 18:51 |
Sokomine |
textures/all did not seem to work? |
| 18:52 |
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| 18:53 |
LazyJ |
There's the tickle... Mods like moreores and moreblocks have gone through some renaming (Ohhh...Calinou, advise please) so if the server is running an older version of, say moreblocks, there is a different name for the same texture in the newer version of moreblocks. |
| 18:54 |
LazyJ |
The way to know is to download the mods from that server to see what the file names are. |
| 18:54 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, what version of Minetest do you run? |
| 18:54 |
Sokomine |
latest git |
| 18:54 |
Sokomine |
at max a few hours old |
| 18:54 |
PilzAdam |
then you have to select "all" in the Texture pack tab |
| 18:54 |
Sokomine |
hmm. ok, renaming might be an issue. yet the server seems to be relatively recent |
| 18:54 |
PilzAdam |
or place it in any folder like "Sokomines Epic TP" and in textures/ and select it in the Texture pack tab |
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| 18:55 |
Sokomine |
aaah! thank you! that *does* help. now i can see those ores |
| 18:56 |
Sokomine |
arn't my textures :-) in this case, those of vanessa (where the easiest ones to grab :)) |
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| 18:57 |
jojoa1997 |
Hello |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
hi 16 year old |
| 18:58 |
jojoa1997 |
i turned this month |
| 18:59 |
jojoa1997 |
does anyone here use hexchat |
| 18:59 |
svuorela |
sexchat ? |
| 18:59 |
jojoa1997 |
NO! |
| 19:01 |
NakedFury |
me |
| 19:01 |
* jojoa1997 |
is confused |
| 19:01 |
NakedFury |
sexually? |
| 19:02 |
* jojoa1997 |
runs to the Rated G corner |
| 19:03 |
ShadowNinja |
There, the server-side part is done, now for the Lua side. (I will have to use os.execute("wget ...") unfourtunately) |
| 19:03 |
jojoa1997 |
no hexchat is an irc client |
| 19:03 |
jojoa1997 |
ShadowNinja for what |
| 19:03 |
ShadowNinja |
jojoa1997: A global public banlist. |
| 19:03 |
jojoa1997 |
:( |
| 19:04 |
* Calinou |
throws a pony in the Rated G corner |
| 19:04 |
jojoa1997 |
this is cool i am 11th and 24th on this list. http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html I bet no one can say that |
| 19:05 |
LazyJ |
jojoa1997, I use Xchat in Linux, sort-of similar. I have HexChat on my laptop (not up-to-date). What's up? |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: *ding* you are now 8th instead of 2 places |
| 19:06 |
jojoa1997 |
every time i close off the preferences revert to default. Als i use a portable installation |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
lawl |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
pisg choose a good quote: ""is drowninf enabled by default?"" |
| 19:06 |
LazyJ |
Portable... that may be why. idk. |
| 19:06 |
jojoa1997 |
sfan5 8th in what |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
you don't have write permissions, jojoa1997 |
| 19:06 |
sfan5 |
irc stats |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
put it elsewhere than in Program Files |
| 19:07 |
jojoa1997 |
i mean most active nicks |
| 19:07 |
Calinou |
"Traxie21 (1150)" how old is that bot? O_o |
| 19:07 |
Calinou |
"Calinou seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 9 times." youdontsay.jpg |
| 19:07 |
jojoa1997 |
i see 11 for jojoa1997|Tablet and 24 for jojoa1997 |
| 19:08 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: "During this 178-day reporting period [...]" |
| 19:08 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: reload the size |
| 19:08 |
sfan5 |
site* |
| 19:08 |
jojoa1997 |
oh wow |
| 19:09 |
jojoa1997 |
it was different a minute ago |
| 19:09 |
* Calinou |
crafts a pony, and flies away |
| 19:09 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at Calinou |
| 19:09 |
jojoa1997 |
lol |
| 19:10 |
* sfan5 |
puts Rainbow Dash on jojoa1997's head |
| 19:10 |
* Calinou |
puts Rarity on his head |
| 19:10 |
jojoa1997 |
gone for 2 months and i just moved down to 4th most posts in the forums |
| 19:10 |
* jojoa1997 |
dashes away |
| 19:10 |
Calinou |
there are better fights to do in life |
| 19:10 |
jin_xi |
learn to stfu |
| 19:10 |
* jojoa1997 |
delays Calinou's plane |
| 19:12 |
jojoa1997 |
http://drakeblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/IMG_7991-300x283.jpg that is what my dog has on now |
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| 19:13 |
svuorela |
is there btw a skyblock competition/combat/war map somewhere ? |
| 19:14 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
| 19:14 |
jojoa1997 |
there is a server |
| 19:14 |
NakedFury |
combat sucks sadly |
| 19:14 |
MinetestBot |
meow |
| 19:15 |
aldobr |
my gcode reader mod is working : http://tinypic.com/r/25rebk5/5 |
| 19:15 |
* jojoa1997 |
wonders why #minetest is obsessed with kittens on heads when kittens are not in minetest_game.... |
| 19:15 |
aldobr |
a column of clay |
| 19:15 |
* svuorela |
puts a kitten on sfan5's head |
| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
meow |
| 19:15 |
* sfan5 |
slaps jojoa1997 |
| 19:15 |
svuorela |
jojoa1997: stuff on hedas are amazing |
| 19:15 |
aldobr |
my 3d printer mod can print kittens if needed |
| 19:15 |
* jojoa1997 |
cries |
| 19:15 |
* jojoa1997 |
slaps sfan5 |
| 19:15 |
NakedFury |
you got a 3d printer? |
| 19:15 |
NakedFury |
im getting one soon! |
| 19:16 |
* sfan5 |
shocks jojoa1997 with a mesecons kitten energy generator |
| 19:16 |
* jojoa1997 |
jumps in a puddle with sfan5 |
| 19:16 |
aldobr |
NakedFury: i wrote a 3d printer mod |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
better print ponies |
| 19:17 |
aldobr |
with help from jin_xi |
| 19:17 |
jojoa1997 |
anyone try the new villages mod |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: these ponies are coming for you http://z0r.de/4870 |
| 19:18 |
* jojoa1997 |
waiting |
| 19:18 |
* jojoa1997 |
is rainbow dash |
| 19:18 |
* PilzAdam |
slaps Calinou (statistics, dude) |
| 19:18 |
jojoa1997 |
hi PilzAdam |
| 19:18 |
jojoa1997 |
... |
| 19:19 |
jojoa1997 |
are you going to run and hide |
| 19:19 |
jojoa1997 |
? |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
* PilzAdam dude) Calinou slaps (statistics, |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
no wait |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
thats wrong |
| 19:19 |
jojoa1997 |
lol |
| 19:19 |
* Calinou |
slaps PilzAdam using his hoof |
| 19:20 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at Calinou |
| 19:20 |
PilzAdam |
you cant slap with a hoog |
| 19:20 |
sfan5 |
I think I'm going to make a pisg plugin that counts how many kittens were thrown |
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PilzAdam |
*f |
| 19:20 |
PilzAdam |
you can only brohoof with it |
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* jojoa1997 |
throws a kitten generator at sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
activates the kitten generator and points the output pipe at PilzAdam |
| 19:21 |
jojoa1997 |
sfan5 you should have on the stats site how many times the word kitten/kittens has been said |
| 19:21 |
* jojoa1997 |
gives Pilz |
| 19:21 |
* jojoa1997 |
gives PilzAdam a dog |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
dog? |
| 19:21 |
sfan5 |
no dogs allowed |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
only kittens and ponies |
| 19:22 |
jojoa1997 |
what about shitzus |
| 19:22 |
jojoa1997 |
fine |
| 19:22 |
jojoa1997 |
i will bring my cat here that is not a dog in disguise |
| 19:23 |
* Calinou |
saps jojoa1997's cat |
| 19:23 |
jojoa1997 |
saps? |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
it is even a valid word, lol |
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* jojoa1997 |
puts a stuffed cat doll in the cat sapper |
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* sfan5 |
puts Derpy Hooves on jojoa1997's head |
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* jojoa1997 |
removes everything on jojoa1997's head |
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jojoa1997 |
Finally works |
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jojoa1997 |
in minetest should windows users use directx or opengl |
| 19:45 |
Calinou |
opengl |
| 19:46 |
jojoa1997 |
howd do you tell what you have? |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997 |
actually opengl controls the noise right? |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
the noise? |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997 |
sorry |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997: look at the top of your Minetest window, read the window title |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997 |
minetest sounds |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
sounds are always managed by OpenAL |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997 |
oh it is AL |
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Calinou |
DirectX is a bunch of proprietary APIs made by Microsoft, Direct3D is a proprietary OpenGL competitor made by Microsoft |
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jojoa1997 |
if i dont have any sound in minetest does that mean that i do not have openAL on my pc |
| 19:58 |
Calinou |
try installing it, yes |
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| 20:05 |
Jordach |
hey Evergreen |
| 20:06 |
Evergreen |
Hi |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
is anyone getting a bug where water doesnt flow |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: we already had this 2 or 3 days ago |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
please search the irc log |
| 20:07 |
jojoa1997 |
and how was i supposed to know this |
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Evergreen |
By searching the irc log. :P |
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* Jordach |
cant use hexchat |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
the crashes, it burns! D: |
| 20:10 |
jojoa1997 |
Evergreen how was i supposed to know that the issue was brought up when i wanst on irc |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997: by checking the issue tracker |
| 20:10 |
Evergreen |
By looking at the irc logs, you can read stuff that you didn't see |
| 20:10 |
jojoa1997 |
isue tracker |
| 20:10 |
jojoa1997 |
where is that |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/ |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997: next time, check the github pages |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
next time you don't get help out of me |
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Jordach |
</pilzadam> |
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jojoa1997 |
But i get help anyways |
| 20:13 |
jojoa1997 |
and he left |
| 20:17 |
LazyJ |
jojoa1997, karhl passed this on to me a couple weeks ago (water flow problem): |
| 20:17 |
jojoa1997 |
it is fixed now |
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jojoa1997 |
i dont know how though |
| 20:18 |
LazyJ |
In the minetest.conf add liquid_loop_max = 10000 |
| 20:18 |
jojoa1997 |
it was like a very long lag on water |
| 20:18 |
LazyJ |
not 1 thousand... 10 thousand. |
| 20:18 |
LazyJ |
That's what helped me. |
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jojoa1997 |
does anyone know if anything new will be added to minetest_game sometime soon. |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi kaeza how is it going? |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
hey jojo |
| 20:32 |
kaeza |
good |
| 20:33 |
kaeza |
you? |
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jojoa1997 |
im good |
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Jordach |
can someone ping me with Jordach? |
| 20:36 |
kaeza |
Jordach, |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, no |
| 20:36 |
* Jordach |
has had to stop using HexChat from the bugs |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
again in 10 seconds |
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jojoa1997 |
Jordach |
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jojoa1997 |
Jordach, was that good? do i get a gold star? |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
okay, good news, orange is my highlight colour |
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* jojoa1997 |
wants a gold star |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
ping me again jojoa1997 |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, this is not a test channel |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam: got it |
| 20:40 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam Jordach |
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jojoa1997 |
:) |
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* Jordach |
hates the orange colour of Quassel |
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* jojoa1997 |
has highlights as green |
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* kaeza |
is colorblind |
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kaeza |
:D |
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* jojoa1997 |
sprays magial dust on kaeza's eyes |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
kaeza: explain how you managed to make a nice coloured sprite |
| 20:47 |
jojoa1997 |
he used my magical dust |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
Jordach, RGB sliders :P |
| 20:48 |
jojoa1997 |
so you make a sprite but you cant even enjoy it |
| 20:48 |
* Jordach |
wonders if kaeza sees the world in 1950's style; black and white |
| 20:48 |
jojoa1997 |
poor kaeza |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, weird huh? |
| 20:49 |
jojoa1997 |
WAIT! wasnt the world back then black and white in real life |
| 20:49 |
jojoa1997 |
:P |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
I enjoy graphics design almost as much as coding |
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* Jordach |
has an annoyance |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
though only pixel art :P |
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* jojoa1997 |
wonders who it is |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
I such at realistic images :P |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
i have to listen to slow audio to animate 24fps video |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
suck* |
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jojoa1997 |
kaeza pixel art is the best until you get to landscapes |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
blender's anim player only does 12 :( |
| 20:52 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, you may have noticed that most of my designs contain only basic colors as yellow, blue, etc |
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* Jordach |
groans |
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kaeza |
Jordach, no config option? |
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Jordach |
kaeza: my gpu cant handle it |
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Jordach |
it gives up trying to animate fast |
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jojoa1997 |
kaezai dont remember any of them. could you show me some stuff |
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Jordach |
that's why i'm using a audio file at 50% of it's speed (because blender is at 12fps, the video is at 24) |
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Jordach |
so i'm cheating, but not cheating :D |
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Jordach |
oh god this is going to take it's time D: |
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DanDuncombe |
May I make the formal request that my MT_Mapper and colors.txt etc are included in the Windows Stable Minetest Download? |
| 21:00 |
DanDuncombe |
In a folder named 'Mapper' |
| 21:00 |
DanDuncombe |
I believe people will find it genuinely helpful. |
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kaeza |
lol PortablePeacock |
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kaeza |
hi |
| 21:01 |
PortablePeacock |
im on the balcony :P |
| 21:01 |
PortablePeacock |
cant get used to this 80% keyboard :/ |
| 21:02 |
DanDuncombe |
Kaeza what did you think of my request? |
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kaeza |
DanDuncombe, make a pull request on github |
| 21:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay. |
| 21:04 |
DanDuncombe |
Do mods on the Database have to be on Github, or will DropBox (which can provide direct links) work? |
| 21:05 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, I have never pull requested before. How do I do the request so that a the mapper folder, with it's contents, is included ideally in the Minetest directory, and nowwhere else. |
| 21:06 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 21:06 |
PortablePeacock |
howdy |
| 21:06 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, can you help with the above comment? |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
hello Vanessa |
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Jordach |
E* |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi VanessaE |
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* PilzAdam |
takes PortablePeacock and places it in his pocket |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
about the database, I don't really know. about pull requests, all you need to do there is make sure all and *only* your desired changes are already pushed to your github repo, then just go to the website and issue a pull request (the "compare" feature) |
| 21:07 |
jojoa1997 |
-.- |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
fun fact: quassel is faster than hexchat :O |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
hi jojo, Jordach |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
dan, you can use git branches to handle multiple feature changes, but for now, stick to one branch and one feature at a time |
| 21:08 |
jojoa1997 |
lol VanessaE comes on and things seem so much simpler |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
me, simple? |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
you shoulda seen me today at my friend Suzy's book signing :D |
| 21:09 |
PortablePeacock |
now why would the pilzadam place the portablepeacock in his pocket? lol |
| 21:09 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, I have never branched or anything. How do I do it? |
| 21:09 |
Exio4 |
does anyone know a simple-and-opensource cd/dvd burner for windows? |
| 21:09 |
jojoa1997 |
its windows |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: git branch xxxxx to make it; git checkout xxxxx to switch to it |
| 21:09 |
Exio4 |
windows xp, fwiw |
| 21:09 |
PilzAdam |
PortablePeacock, because its portable |
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PortablePeacock |
lol |
| 21:10 |
jojoa1997 |
!g simple-and-opensource cd/dvd burner for windows |
| 21:10 |
MinetestBot |
jojoa1997: http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-cd-dvd-burning-software.htm |
| 21:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Windows can burn and rip DVDs/Cds |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
but for now, don't mess with branches |
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jojoa1997 |
!? |
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jojoa1997 |
ah nothing? |
| 21:10 |
* VanessaE |
pokes Uberi... just because :) |
| 21:10 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, could you do it for me? |
| 21:10 |
Exio4 |
jojoa1997: free != opensource |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: nope |
| 21:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Why not |
| 21:10 |
* Uberi |
explodes into confetti |
| 21:11 |
DanDuncombe |
I really have no idea how to do it. |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
you can only do that yourself because git is a mostly secure system |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
!g windows cd ripper free |
| 21:11 |
MinetestBot |
jojoa1997: http://download.cnet.com/Free-CD-Ripper/3000-2168_4-10212165.html |
| 21:11 |
Exio4 |
i will use infrarecorder, i hope it works |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
e.g. it depends on you being logged in, having the code on your machine where you want it, etc etc etc |
| 21:11 |
Exio4 |
:D |
| 21:11 |
Uberi |
what's up DanDuncombe |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
i use windows media player |
| 21:11 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: he needs advice on git branching and how it relates to pull requests |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
DanDuncombe nice mapper |
| 21:12 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks jojoa19997 |
| 21:12 |
DanDuncombe |
*1997 |
| 21:12 |
Uberi |
oh, well what's still unclear? |
| 21:12 |
DanDuncombe |
I just need to get it added to the default Windows Stable download |
| 21:12 |
PortablePeacock |
damn this screen is small :/ |
| 21:12 |
DanDuncombe |
As a pull request or something |
| 21:13 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: oh for that, you have to pull request against minetest git and hope it makes it in before the next stable build |
| 21:13 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, how do I make it so the mapper folder is in the Minetest Directory? |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997 |
DanDuncombe maybe you could add an update map option |
| 21:13 |
DanDuncombe |
jojoa1997 What do you mean? |
| 21:14 |
DanDuncombe |
You can just re-map the world. |
| 21:14 |
Sokomine |
hmm. we need some simple sentences translated into diffrent languages... |
| 21:14 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: wait, are you trying to merge in the C++ mapper then? |
| 21:14 |
VanessaE |
because the python one is already there, in the util folder. |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
don't bother. |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
that's already been decided against. |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 21:15 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, see the forum post for MT_Mapper for Windows |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
it should be included in *JUST* the windows builds |
| 21:15 |
VanessaE |
devs have already declined to include it because it increases the build deps or something |
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Jordach |
if it's in the git repo, then a shitstorm occurs because the app doesnt work on *nix or windows |
| 21:15 |
Exio4 |
the idea was making it part of the engine "soon(tm)" |
| 21:15 |
DanDuncombe |
It is a 'TUI' version of Minetest_Mapper |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
that's why we have python :P |
| 21:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Text Gui |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
to get it included with win builds, you probably should just link to a known good binary and ask someone to bundle it |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
this isn't something that's really handled by git |
| 21:16 |
jojoa1997 |
DanDuncombe i mean if you press option 4 you can choose from a list of maps already there to remap the world |
| 21:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Ask someone to bundle? |
| 21:16 |
jojoa1997 |
i just thought it could make things easier |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
yeah, e.g. ask PilzAdam or sfan5 to bundle it with their builds. |
| 21:16 |
DanDuncombe |
jojoa1997, it may be a while, but if possible that feature may be added. |
| 21:16 |
VanessaE |
(or fess or blockmen) |
| 21:16 |
sfan5 |
hm? |
| 21:17 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: DanDuncombe wants to get the C++ minetestmapper included alongside standard Windows builds of MT. |
| 21:17 |
DanDuncombe |
sfan5, could you include my MT_Mapper for Windows in your MT Builds? |
| 21:17 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 21:17 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE: My MT mapper, not just the C++ thing |
| 21:17 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, your mapper? |
| 21:17 |
VanessaE |
linky? |
| 21:17 |
sfan5 |
umm |
| 21:17 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6920 |
| 21:17 |
jojoa1997 |
it is very good |
| 21:18 |
DanDuncombe |
Is is text-based interface |
| 21:18 |
sfan5 |
let me see |
| 21:18 |
DanDuncombe |
*is a |
| 21:18 |
* Jordach |
wants a nix version too |
| 21:18 |
Jordach |
bbl - testing linux mint 15 :D |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
ah, something like an ncurses front end for the mapper eh? |
| 21:19 |
DanDuncombe |
If someone re-writes it as bash and makes it use minetestmapper.py then Linux users could use it too. |
| 21:19 |
DanDuncombe |
It is a text-based GUI for the mapper, yes. |
| 21:19 |
PortablePeacock |
IMO include the mapper into minetest |
| 21:19 |
DanDuncombe |
It automaticcaly logs the mapping |
| 21:20 |
DanDuncombe |
Gives you various options |
| 21:20 |
VanessaE |
sounds useful |
| 21:20 |
DanDuncombe |
And is 100% batch (except for minetest_mapper itself) |
| 21:20 |
PortablePeacock |
lua menu shouldn't be too tough to mapper any/all worlds |
| 21:20 |
* Jordach |
might try to make a lua main menu tab for this |
| 21:21 |
DanDuncombe |
PortablePeacock: If it was integrated into Minetest that would be awesome |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
brb |
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PortablePeacock |
seriously lol would save alot of trouble with command line stuff |
| 21:21 |
Jordach |
Evergreen_: using quassel? |
| 21:21 |
Evergreen_ |
Yup |
| 21:21 |
Jordach |
you stole my idea! |
| 21:21 |
DanDuncombe |
PortablePeacock: My MT_Mapper is not command line |
| 21:22 |
PortablePeacock |
in fact, if it were saved in the same location, public server list could show a "preview" of the server this way |
| 21:22 |
* Jordach |
likes |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
oh man that would be amazing |
| 21:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Yeah, although you would need a huge colors.txt |
| 21:22 |
* Jordach |
drools |
| 21:22 |
DanDuncombe |
For every mod of every server |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
just ask VanessaE |
| 21:22 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 21:23 |
DanDuncombe |
My Mapper uses her colors.txt anyway |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
yeah if it exists, VanessaE's server probably has it |
| 21:23 |
Evergreen |
I'm working on an insect mod pack |
| 21:23 |
Evergreen |
I'm going to release (hopefully) on my 1000th post |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
wooo |
| 21:23 |
* Jordach |
has way more than that |
| 21:24 |
DanDuncombe |
What do you think? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6955 |
| 21:24 |
Evergreen |
Ik. :P |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
Fun fact: me and sfan5 raced to the 1000th post mark |
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* sfan5 |
still remembers that |
| 21:24 |
sfan5 |
who won? |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
you did |
| 21:24 |
PortablePeacock |
very gay, tape Miss Brahms1 :p |
| 21:24 |
Jordach |
by 8 posts |
| 21:24 |
PortablePeacock |
*! |
| 21:24 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 21:25 |
Evergreen |
Can someone ping me? Just want to know what it sounds like. |
| 21:25 |
sfan5 |
!sfu *gay* |
| 21:25 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: No Results found |
| 21:25 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 21:25 |
PortablePeacock |
damn 80% kwwyboard |
| 21:25 |
PortablePeacock |
damnit |
| 21:25 |
Jordach |
Evergreen: sup |
| 21:25 |
PortablePeacock |
*keyboard |
| 21:25 |
Evergreen |
Hey |
| 21:25 |
Evergreen |
:P |
| 21:25 |
DanDuncombe |
I an 45th in the number of posts list |
| 21:25 |
Jordach |
if i find linux mint any good, i'm using it from then on \o/ |
| 21:25 |
kaeza |
it would be relatively easy to add a Tkinter frontend to the python mapperthe python mapper |
| 21:26 |
PortablePeacock |
id hate to be #2 :P |
| 21:26 |
kaeza |
eh lol paste fail :P |
| 21:26 |
jojoa1997 |
what do you mean 80% |
| 21:26 |
Evergreen |
Hoe do you use the python minetestmapper? |
| 21:27 |
Evergreen |
*How |
| 21:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Like the C++ one I suppose |
| 21:27 |
Uberi |
oh my goodness 3d apples |
| 21:27 |
DanDuncombe |
I am not sure though if commands are the same. |
| 21:27 |
PortablePeacock |
80% = netbook keyboard |
| 21:28 |
DanDuncombe |
PortablePeacock: I have only ever used my netbook keyboard all my life pretty much. |
| 21:28 |
PortablePeacock |
i used to be used to it 3 yrs ago when these were new here |
| 21:28 |
PortablePeacock |
but i was hardly ever home back then lol |
| 21:29 |
Evergreen |
Nvm, figure it out |
| 21:29 |
Evergreen |
*figured |
| 21:30 |
Evergreen |
Imo, apples look like cherries |
| 21:31 |
PortablePeacock |
apples dont be looking like apples |
| 21:31 |
sfan5 |
someone look at this statistic: http://i.imgur.com/BtIsZ2u.png |
| 21:32 |
Evergreen |
Someone needs to update clors.txt |
| 21:32 |
Evergreen |
*colors.txt |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
I have an extensive one already available |
| 21:33 |
LazyJ |
Use VanessaE |
| 21:33 |
LazyJ |
Use VanessaE |
| 21:33 |
LazyJ |
Ahhkkk |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
(streets and moreblocks/stairsplus support need updated though) |
| 21:33 |
LazyJ |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 21:33 |
LazyJ |
There! |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
that's the one. |
| 21:34 |
LazyJ |
Typing at a strange angle to the keyboard is... challenging. |
| 21:35 |
LazyJ |
Of course I could turn and face the keyboard but noooo. I'm too stubborn for that. Oy. |
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PortablePeacock |
<VanessaE> I have an extensive one already available |
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PortablePeacock |
me too |
| 21:35 |
Jordach |
holy shit mint runs like greased weasel shit |
| 21:36 |
PortablePeacock |
what else have you used that for? |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, nice to see you at the good side of the OS universe again :-) |
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DanDuncombe |
Jordach:Not if you follow Calinou's instructions to update Minetest |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam: live session user |
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DanDuncombe |
sfan5: Will you include mt_mapper in yuor builds? |
| 21:38 |
* Jordach |
wonders if blender will be faster |
| 21:39 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: maybe |
| 21:39 |
Jordach |
fuck nouveau |
| 21:39 |
Jordach |
nvidia driver ftw |
| 21:39 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: tip: do not use nouveau |
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DanDuncombe |
Thanks sfan5 |
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PortablePeacock |
nouveau can fuck itself XD |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
nouveau fucks up everything on my system |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
with nouveau no graphical thing works |
| 21:40 |
PortablePeacock |
nouveau = a fucking fuck (Lord of War) |
| 21:40 |
sfan5 |
it tries to do a thing with nvidia optimus |
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sfan5 |
good night everyon' |
| 21:41 |
PortablePeacock |
ATI (original) drivers ftw |
| 21:41 |
PortablePeacock |
aswelll |
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Jordach |
ATI = Bucket of SHIT |
| 21:41 |
PortablePeacock |
* as well |
| 21:42 |
PortablePeacock |
meh, newer radeon HD pretty decent, i use that to watch BR movies |
| 21:42 |
Jordach |
brazilian movies?! |
| 21:43 |
PortablePeacock |
bluray lol not pron |
| 21:43 |
Evergreen |
Sorry, thank you VanessaE |
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* Jordach |
tests blender |
| 21:45 |
Evergreen |
How long did it take you to make that colors.txt? It should be merged imo |
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Vazon_ |
hay everyone |
| 21:47 |
Jordach |
hey* |
| 21:47 |
Vazon_ |
Well could some tell me how to fix server lag |
| 21:49 |
Vazon_ |
*someone |
| 21:50 |
sfan5 |
Vazon_: have you searched the forum? |
| 21:50 |
Vazon_ |
no i guess that would be a good idea tho XD |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
Vazon_: server lag is based on the server's processing power and bandwidth |
| 21:52 |
sapier1 |
I'm looking for temperature records in mt woods I have 84C now anyone more? :-) |
| 21:52 |
Jordach |
sapier1: i get -47 on singlenode |
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* Jordach |
cant wait for MGV7 |
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PortablePeacock |
Evergreen lookat builtin/misc_register, you can insert a function that registers colors there |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
is this used anywhere? |
| 21:53 |
DanDuncombe |
Could someone make a Thermometer/Hygrometer mod that shows temp/humidity with a craftitem? |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
seems to be random what temperature is where |
| 21:53 |
* sfan5 |
got -2871C with 78% humudity once |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
you can see it in debug build hud but of course you could make a mod too |
| 21:54 |
sapier1 |
oh thats roughly 2500° below absolute zero :-) |
| 21:54 |
DanDuncombe |
I got 97% Humidity down a cave once |
| 21:54 |
PortablePeacock |
-2871c? |
| 21:54 |
DanDuncombe |
I looked at the debug |
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PilzAdam |
sapier1, only in Minetest (TM) |
| 21:55 |
PortablePeacock |
sweet black jesus, thats pretty hot :P |
| 21:55 |
PortablePeacock |
there should be a min/max of -30c/50c :P |
| 21:56 |
sfan5 |
max of 50c? sure... |
| 21:56 |
DanDuncombe |
But lava would be 50c then |
| 21:56 |
PortablePeacock |
though you can google the real min/max of earth temperatures |
| 21:56 |
sapier1 |
of course pa but do we really need our own scale ? :-) |
| 21:56 |
PilzAdam |
the max is about 50°C, min is something about -40°C |
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PilzAdam |
IRL, that is |
| 21:58 |
PortablePeacock |
well i would put the coldest temps at map edges, to keep people from developing/farming that area |
| 21:58 |
sapier1 |
btw eath lowest temperature is ~-90°C |
| 21:59 |
PortablePeacock |
i wouldnt want to live there lol |
| 21:59 |
sapier1 |
antarctica |
| 21:59 |
sapier1 |
thats below carbon dioxide freezing temperature too ;) |
| 22:00 |
DanDuncombe |
Clean air then |
| 22:00 |
sapier1 |
maximum is ~60°C |
| 22:00 |
sapier1 |
I guess it's heating up there too atm |
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| 22:01 |
PortablePeacock |
well the earth is def. going through some weather changes |
| 22:01 |
PortablePeacock |
hard to deny with the weird heat waves weve had in Quebec |
| 22:01 |
PortablePeacock |
usually we get 30c weather for a day or two, not a week or two :p |
| 22:03 |
PortablePeacock |
though it's said that the Vikings colonized north america when the weather was alot hotter than it is now so.. |
| 22:06 |
* Jordach |
pets GParted |
| 22:06 |
PortablePeacock |
i dont really mind, id love to move to the Yukon so long as the weather keeps getting warmer :p |
| 22:08 |
Vazon_ |
DanDun are you there? |
| 22:09 |
proller |
sapier1, dig deep and find 120+ |
| 22:10 |
proller |
or fly up and find -120.. |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam: installing linux mint |
| 22:10 |
sapier1 |
ok that's ok temperature records I told were surface temps |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
all this weather stuff is way too ungeneric |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
all these things are hardcoded |
| 22:11 |
PortablePeacock |
linux mint? |
| 22:11 |
Jordach |
think ubuntu without the shitness |
| 22:11 |
PortablePeacock |
dude, go with crunchbang |
| 22:11 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, what DE? |
| 22:11 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam: Cinnamon |
| 22:11 |
proller |
PilzAdam, base temp getted from heat noise, its can be adjusted, but have now very wrong defaults |
| 22:11 |
Uberi |
ever tried Elementary? |
| 22:12 |
proller |
PilzAdam, in future i want to make biome-defined temp spread |
| 22:13 |
Jordach |
proller: go play with the powder toy on heat vision mode |
| 22:13 |
Jordach |
(with ambiant temp enabled and THEN learn how heat spreads) |
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Sokomine |
hi bas |
| 22:26 |
Evergreen |
Hi Sokomine |
| 22:27 |
Sokomine |
hi evergreen |
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* kaeza |
hands jordach and uppercase 'J' |
| 22:40 |
* jordach |
is still setting up mint |
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aldobr |
hi all |
| 22:45 |
aldobr |
kaeza: the thing worked |
| 22:45 |
kaeza |
\o/ |
| 22:45 |
kaeza |
screenies? :3 |
| 22:46 |
aldobr |
http://tinypic.com/r/288cwhj/5 |
| 22:47 |
aldobr |
a cilinder printed |
| 22:47 |
aldobr |
resolution is poor |
| 22:47 |
aldobr |
and i believe binvox will give better results |
| 22:48 |
aldobr |
i printed a 50mm cone |
| 22:48 |
aldobr |
woaa the thing spawned from 0 to 1000 heigth :P |
| 22:48 |
aldobr |
like a huge montain of mese |
| 22:51 |
NakedFury |
could you do a tutorial on using that mod you and jin xi did? |
| 22:51 |
aldobr |
yes |
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NakedFury |
jinxi does awesome stuff and then I dont see him for weeks or months |
| 22:52 |
aldobr |
he adapted the thing for voxelmanip |
| 22:52 |
aldobr |
but i cant test because i use 0.4.7 |
| 22:52 |
aldobr |
on 0.4.7 it uses add_node for each block, its slooooow |
| 22:53 |
aldobr |
a cone of clay : http://tinypic.com/r/m8o3g5/5 |
| 22:54 |
kaeza |
that looks cool |
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aldobr |
basically you use sclic3r to turn a .stl file into a .gcode file compatible with reprap |
| 22:55 |
aldobr |
then feed the gcode to the mod |
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aldobr |
/reprap <mygcodefile>,<material>,<x>,<y>,<z> |
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| 23:00 |
bas0801 |
Will not load: /usr/share/minetest/games/common/mods/default |
| 23:00 |
bas0801 |
How can that be resolved? |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
don't use common :P |
| 23:00 |
bas0801 |
i do not use common mods |
| 23:00 |
bas0801 |
I asked the minetestserver to start another --gameid |
| 23:01 |
bas0801 |
How can i disable the use of common? |
| 23:02 |
bas0801 |
maybe i'm just running an old version of minetest |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
just update to something recent |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
common was phased out ages ago |
| 23:04 |
bas080 |
Ok. am updating. Getting an old laptop to run my server as this pc's wireless is horrible. |
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aldobr |
whats the status of minetest binvox integration ? |
| 23:08 |
jin_xi |
i think mauvebic/Peacock has used binvox or something like it to import huge models |
| 23:09 |
aldobr |
i want to write a binvox importer |
| 23:09 |
aldobr |
but one that builds slowly, not to overload the server |
| 23:09 |
aldobr |
something that could be used in public servers |
| 23:10 |
Peacock |
GPL |
| 23:11 |
aldobr |
this gcode interpreter is too fast for public servers |
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Peacock |
if you wanna use binvox, you need to use the version to which the source is available |
| 23:16 |
Peacock |
and then, you need to read the binary data :P |
| 23:16 |
aldobr |
from binvox site |
| 23:16 |
aldobr |
its simple rle compression |
| 23:17 |
Evergreen |
I'm going to be watching startrek, so afk |
| 23:19 |
Peacock |
is watching ST VOY right now :p |
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Exio4 |
dammit |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
this network: when i don't need to do anything, 350kb/s, now what i want it to be faster, 50kb/s |
| 23:36 |
* kaeza |
puts a pony on Exio4's head |
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| 23:36 |
* Exio4 |
burns kaeza's body |
| 23:36 |
* Peacock |
puts a mercedes on Exio4's head |
| 23:37 |
aldobr |
i will write a nodebox generator |
| 23:37 |
kaeza |
Exio4, murphy's law? |
| 23:38 |
kaeza |
no wait, that was not it |
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XeroZero |
Heyo. |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
!up 200.127.96.9 |
| 23:41 |
MinetestBot |
200.127.96.9:30000 seems to be down |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
:< |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
hi |
| 23:42 |
Exio4 |
!kick kaeza |
| 23:42 |
Exio4 |
hi XeroZero |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
Exio4, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6941 |
| 23:42 |
Exio4 |
what is it? |
| 23:42 |
jordach |
okay, in UTC, it's now tomorrow |
| 23:42 |
Exio4 |
i don't have a browser yet |
| 23:42 |
* jordach |
changes topic |
| 23:42 |
jordach |
sugggestions? |
| 23:42 |
Jordach |
!op |
| 23:43 |
kaeza |
Exio4, "SERVIDOR SUDAMERICA Y ESPAÑA" |
| 23:43 |
Exio4 |
seems legit |
| 23:43 |
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Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Nothing special. |
| 23:43 |
Exio4 |
lol Jordach |
| 23:44 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: estoy desde el sempron btw :D |
| 23:44 |
Exio4 |
lo tengo un toquesito OCeado y estoy instalando debian ^^ |
| 23:45 |
Jordach |
!op |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
como funca eso? |
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Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Sandwich of the day: Club |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
!deop |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
better, |
| 23:46 |
kaeza |
wat |
