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dysoco |
Weird, I'm trying the zipped build for Windows and it won't open Minetest: It says "Minetest stopped working" |
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dysoco |
W8 btw |
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Menche |
run it from a terminal and post the output |
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dysoco |
no output at all |
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dysoco |
I tried installing from the .exe and same result |
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Exio |
can you try any mingw build? |
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Menche |
you try running it from cmd? |
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Menche |
there should be at least some output |
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arsdragonfly |
dysoco is that an x86_64 cpu or an ARM one? |
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dysoco |
I said there is no output at all, already ran it from CMD :P |
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dysoco |
must be x86-64 |
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dysoco |
The one that's at the top of http://minetest.net/download |
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Exio |
cat /proc/cpuinfo >:D |
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Menche |
did it make a debug.txt? |
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Exio |
dysoco: try with a mingw build |
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Exio |
(pilzadam's build, for example) |
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dysoco |
Menche, nope |
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dysoco |
Exio, let me try |
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dysoco |
Exio, yep, PilzAdam's build works fine |
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dysoco |
but the other one should work too, it's the "main one" |
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dysoco |
I will try it tomorrow in other PC |
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Exio |
ok |
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Exio |
the msvc build doesn't work but the mingw one does |
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Exio |
microsoft fail |
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dysoco |
I have tried to build Minetest with VS in the past |
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dysoco |
... it obviously didn't work |
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dysoco |
nothing builds under VS |
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Exio |
the official build was compiled with vs |
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khonkhortisan |
Found the solution to the noteblock bug, that was a lot of work |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: khonkhortisan commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: mesecon:rules_link nil return rule 4f2604e01b 2013-06-10T18:29:40-07:00 http://git.io/gINACg |
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khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, ^ |
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NakedFury |
guys go watch E3 live streams |
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NakedFury |
go |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
sfan5 could you give me that cURL snippie again? |
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arsdragonfly |
I tried to compile cURL from source but it failed |
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ice__ |
hello? |
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[0gb_us] |
Iello! |
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[0gb_us] |
*Hello! |
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ice__ |
have you tried the monorail mod |
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ice__ |
I dont know how the stitches work |
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ice__ |
*switches |
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[0gb_us] |
Sorry, I have not tried it. |
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ice__ |
k |
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ice__ |
anyone else? |
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ice__ |
Actually |
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ice__ |
PilzAdam's carts are perfect |
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ice__ |
Except that they dont have switchers |
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ice__ |
Which I need |
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khonkhortisan |
they used to have switches |
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[0gb_us] |
To the old version! |
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khonkhortisan |
I want to represent a 3d rotation in lua, and be able to apply rotations to that rotation, and apply that rotation to a vector. How do I do that? |
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khonkhortisan |
And compare whether two rotations are the same (or normalize them) |
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khonkhortisan |
I don't want to reinvent the wheel/write geometric functions into commonlib |
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hmmmm |
man, people are crazy |
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hmmmm |
at least one person out there thinks they're going to find a quant with a math Ph.D. for $120k, in NYC |
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ch98 |
what was steel block called when modding? I have a very small change to my mod but I don't have minetest on here. |
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VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: updated and deployed. |
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VanessaE |
ch98: defautl:steelblock |
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VanessaE |
default:steelblock rather |
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khonkhortisan |
coatl:blockosteel |
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VanessaE |
but that's only in Quantal Quetzal ;) |
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khonkhortisan |
rejoining is lethal! |
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VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: protip: use fewer fonts and fewer sizes in your bug comments :) |
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khonkhortisan |
okay |
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VanessaE |
so, luacontrollers are safe to run on a server then? |
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bbl |
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Calinou |
le me is getting random kernel panics when booting |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Corn on the Cob Day! :-) |
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rubenwardy |
Hi All! |
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rubenwardy |
spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94342#p94342 |
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rubenwardy |
Hi |
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arsdragonfly |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down |
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arsdragonfly |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 |
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MinetestBot |
arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (467ms) |
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rubenwardy |
SmugLeaf, wtf? |
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SmugLeaf |
wat |
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rubenwardy |
SmugLeaf: http://pastebin.com/tTBAPCnj |
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AntonBoch1244 |
Hello Everyone! |
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rubenwardy |
Hi |
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SmugLeaf |
oh |
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SmugLeaf |
I had joins off |
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SmugLeaf |
have |
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hoodedice |
Hello? |
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hoodedice |
Is there any way you can block out player name in multiplayer? |
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rubenwardy |
huh? |
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rubenwardy |
you mean ban? |
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rubenwardy |
oh |
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rubenwardy |
you mean so people can not see your name tag floating around? |
| 12:48 |
hoodedice |
not ban |
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hoodedice |
haha |
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hoodedice |
name tag thingy |
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rubenwardy |
ok |
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rubenwardy |
completely gone, or only shown when they are close to the player? |
| 12:51 |
hoodedice |
completely gone, preferrably |
| 12:51 |
hoodedice |
If not possible, then close thingy |
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rubenwardy |
unlimited_player_transfer_distance = true |
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rubenwardy |
set to false |
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rubenwardy |
so unlimited_player_transfer_distance = false |
| 12:52 |
hoodedice |
in what? |
| 12:52 |
rubenwardy |
in minetest.cong |
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rubenwardy |
*.conf |
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hoodedice |
kk |
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hoodedice |
thanks a lot |
| 12:53 |
rubenwardy |
more info: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L229 |
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hoodedice |
ahha |
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hoodedice |
got it |
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hoodedice |
thanks again |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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rubenwardy |
Does "Chargement" mean "loading" (as in a game) in french? |
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rubenwardy |
Any one like BBC Merlin here? |
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NakedFury |
a show? |
| 14:24 |
NakedFury |
tv show |
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rubenwardy |
tv show, yes |
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rubenwardy |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mjlxv |
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NakedFury |
I watch season one |
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rubenwardy |
There is a face book game for it now |
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rubenwardy |
It is quite bad, you do not even play as any of the main characters |
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KikaRz |
Hi! :D |
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rubenwardy |
Hi! |
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rubenwardy |
your ip is 217-129-172-163! |
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KikaRz |
... |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz |
Yours: 86-160-67-207 |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
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KikaRz |
And really, that's not my IP. |
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KikaRz |
I'm in a public station |
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KikaRz |
Mine too |
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KikaRz |
make whois to me |
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KikaRz |
not CTCP WHOIS |
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KikaRz |
-.- |
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KikaRz |
lawl |
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KikaRz |
lawl |
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KikaRz |
lawl |
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KikaRz |
lawl! |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest: To check multiple Ports please use Query |
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KikaRz |
hahahahah |
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KikaRz |
lol... |
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KikaRz |
This is so funny |
| 14:54 |
KikaRz |
<KikaRz> !up minetest.net 10000-30000 |
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KikaRz |
<MinetestBot> KikaRz: Too many Ports specified |
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MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
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KikaRz |
10 is the limit? |
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KikaRz |
Too funny |
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KikaRz |
I'm spamming MinetestBot in query |
| 14:55 |
KikaRz |
<MinetestBot> minetest.net:30005 seems to be down |
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KikaRz |
<MinetestBot> minetest.net:30004 seems to be down |
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KikaRz |
<MinetestBot> minetest.net:30005 seems to be down |
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KikaRz |
Second Kick... |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: sed abuse is funnier |
| 14:56 |
Calinou |
(Exio-approved) |
| 14:57 |
KikaRz |
sed abuse? |
| 14:57 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 14:57 |
KikaRz |
?? |
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KikaRz |
who's Exio? |
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Calinou |
some guy I know who contributes a bit to minetest |
| 14:57 |
KikaRz |
Who? |
| 14:58 |
Exio |
KikaRz: i'm exio4 |
| 14:58 |
Calinou |
he also plays on a minecraft server I play on |
| 14:58 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, stop being off topic, Minecraft isn't permitted here. |
| 14:58 |
Exio |
why not? |
| 14:58 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 14:58 |
Calinou |
minceraft! |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz |
minceraft is better... |
| 14:59 |
Exio |
what is wrong with minecraft |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz |
Exio, stop being off topic, Minecraft isn't permitted here. |
| 14:59 |
* Calinou |
is playing TF2 |
| 14:59 |
Exio |
ll |
| 14:59 |
Exio |
+o |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, that's really butter than Minceraft.! |
| 14:59 |
rubenwardy |
Thats like going to texas and asking what is wrong with black people |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
lol |
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KikaRz |
rubenwardy, Nope. |
| 15:00 |
Exio |
rubenwardy: minetest started as a MC clone |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I know |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz |
This is going to Sweden and telling Notch, that he's a piece of crap that don't have imagination to create another game without being Infiniminer clone! |
| 15:00 |
Exio |
and is somewhat one |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
I am joking |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz |
And Minetest was created first than Minecraft. |
| 15:00 |
Exio |
ok |
| 15:00 |
Exio |
if you say so |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz |
Yes, it was! |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
We can say everyone! |
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Calinou |
no |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
minecraft: may 2009 |
| 15:01 |
NakedFury |
it was after MC |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
minetest: october 2010 |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, nope... August 2010 |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
I started playing MC in november 2010 and MT in july 2011 |
| 15:01 |
Calinou |
lol no |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
lol |
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Calinou |
go ask see-fifty-five :P |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, go to see C55's plans. |
| 15:02 |
KikaRz |
Minetest is way older than Minecraft! Minetest was in C55's mind after Minecraft infiltrating into C55's head. |
| 15:03 |
KikaRz |
*after Notch infiltrating into C55's head. |
| 15:03 |
KikaRz |
And, about C55, where is he? :/ |
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sfan5 |
!seen celeron55 |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen celeron55 around. |
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KikaRz |
!seen celeron |
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KikaRz |
sfan5... ? |
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sfan5 |
<KikaRz> I'm spamming MinetestBot in query |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
I was. |
| 15:04 |
MinetestBot |
john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen celeron55 around. |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
I'm not anymore |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
I was trying to do a test. |
| 15:04 |
sfan5 |
"Do not abuse the bot" |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
That's not a rule. |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
That's a request. |
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sfan5 |
it is |
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rubenwardy |
!kick KikaRz |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 15:05 |
Exio |
isn't common sense a rule |
| 15:05 |
Exio |
? |
| 15:05 |
KikaRz |
Not always. |
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ch98 |
can someone test concrete mod so there is no error? |
| 15:06 |
ch98 |
I updted it but could not test it without minetest |
| 15:06 |
Exio |
what irc client? |
| 15:06 |
Exio |
ch98: can't you run a VM? |
| 15:07 |
ch98 |
what is that? |
| 15:07 |
KikaRz |
And sfan5, where is that rule? |
| 15:07 |
KikaRz |
And sfan5, where is that order/request? |
| 15:07 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: thats is common sense |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz |
Kiwii =) |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz |
I love that fruit |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
if you got something, don't abuse it |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz |
What sfan5? |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz |
I saw one green one! |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz |
That was fantastic. |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz |
Oh wait... Kiwis are supposed to be green... |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz |
Oh yea... They are green... Stupid mind. |
| 15:09 |
ch98 |
If VM ment virtual machine, there is no ppc version |
| 15:10 |
KikaRz |
john_minetest, my brother says that he saw one blue. |
| 15:10 |
KikaRz |
well, not blue... purple |
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KikaRz |
Look here, a question |
| 15:21 |
KikaRz |
A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? |
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KikaRz |
I prefer to ask, to a machine. |
| 15:21 |
KikaRz |
If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
I think everyone froze when I've done those 2 paradoxes. |
| 15:22 |
khonkhortisan |
He shaves half his face |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
khonkhortisan, no answer. |
| 15:23 |
khonkhortisan |
Yes, but not fully |
| 15:23 |
KikaRz |
Because you don't know what kind of men he is. |
| 15:23 |
KikaRz |
And what he does in his daily... |
| 15:23 |
KikaRz |
And this one? If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. |
| 15:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm assuming it's his decision whether to shave himself |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
Human: If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
Dr. Romulon: So if not Santa Claus exists, then not this sentence is true. |
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KikaRz |
Hi Zeg9 |
| 15:28 |
KikaRz |
Been a long time |
| 15:28 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
| 15:28 |
KikaRz |
http://nlp-addiction.com/chatbot/dr.romulon/ |
| 15:28 |
KikaRz |
Too cool! |
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Jordach |
oops |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
OMG |
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Calinou |
s/nlp/mlp |
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KikaRz |
khonkhortisan, your answer is: |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
Human: A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
Dr. Romulon: When is a barber who not a man shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves? Suppose he does. |
| 15:32 |
Vohveli |
< KikaRz> A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? |
| 15:32 |
Vohveli |
answer: you lie |
| 15:32 |
Zeg9 |
Human: do you speak french? |
| 15:32 |
Zeg9 |
Dr. Romulon: Oui. Je parle le français. |
| 15:32 |
Zeg9 |
Human: vous parlez français ? |
| 15:32 |
Zeg9 |
Dr. Romulon: Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that. |
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Zeg9 |
:( |
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khonkhortisan |
Hi ShadowBot! |
| 15:33 |
KikaRz |
Zeg9 lawl |
| 15:35 |
KikaRz |
ShadowBot! |
| 15:35 |
KikaRz |
.up vanessae.mine.bz |
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Jordach |
uh oh |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
my bios is going crazy |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
Human: I know you perhaps in my fantasies we knew each other |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
Eliza: Your fantasies we knew each other ? |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
Human: I know my fantasies we know each other |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
Eliza: Why do you say your fantasies we know each other ? |
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khonkhortisan |
Eliza is dumb |
| 15:39 |
khonkhortisan |
Why do you say I am dumb? |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
Human: Elisa, you are dumb |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
Eliza: Perhaps you would like to be dumb. |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
Such a bitch |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
Eliza: Lets discuss further why your fantasies we know each other. |
| 15:43 |
KikaRz |
Stupid WINE |
| 15:43 |
KikaRz |
he changed my screen resolution |
| 15:48 |
KikaRz |
playing trackmania |
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Jordach |
Calinou, PM |
| 15:52 |
KikaRz |
stupid wine |
| 15:52 |
KikaRz |
now its laggy |
| 15:57 |
KikaRz |
How i install NTFS3G? |
| 16:01 |
Morrolan |
`package_manager correct_args ntfs-3g` |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz |
but one more thing |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz |
my pendrive, appears with some... |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz |
.TRASH-1000 |
| 16:02 |
KikaRz |
and that folder is not disappearing |
| 16:02 |
KikaRz |
I cant delete it |
| 16:02 |
KikaRz |
And it got 2 GB, and just appears to have 1,9 GB |
| 16:03 |
Morrolan |
Probably the difference between GB and GiB. |
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KikaRz |
... |
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KikaRz |
Its GiB |
| 16:06 |
Morrolan |
Manufacturers usually advertise the capacity as GB, while most (if not all) operating systems show it as GiB. |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
the inverse you mean |
| 16:06 |
Morrolan |
No. |
| 16:07 |
Morrolan |
It's more noticeable with 1TB HDDs, they show up as "only" ~970 GiB. |
| 16:07 |
Morrolan |
Sorry, 930GiB it'd be. |
| 16:07 |
KikaRz |
... |
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KikaRz |
ok... |
| 16:09 |
* Calinou |
's SSD approves |
| 16:09 |
Calinou |
238 GB |
| 16:10 |
Morrolan |
It'd be a tad less confusing if Windows' 'My Workplace' would use the 'GiB' suffix instead of 'GB' since, if I'm not mistaken, it shows the capacity as GiB. |
| 16:10 |
Morrolan |
s/Workplace/Computer/ |
| 16:10 |
Calinou |
MS doesn't think the people should hear about "gibs" |
| 16:10 |
Morrolan |
Probably. :P |
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KikaRz |
What a stupid thing. |
| 16:15 |
KikaRz |
.net Framework 4.5 has launched. |
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MarkTwain |
Hello everyone! |
| 16:26 |
mitori |
PilzAdam, i tried once again. let me hear what you've got to say about this, new, edited, improved soundpack |
| 16:26 |
mitori |
what's up |
| 16:26 |
MarkTwain |
Hi |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
hey mitori |
| 16:27 |
MarkTwain |
How do i set up a remote media server? |
| 16:27 |
MarkTwain |
Do i separate all the textures and sounds? |
| 16:28 |
mitori |
Jordach hey |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: afaik no |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: like a web server |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
tip: you can use dropbox |
| 16:34 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: do you have trackmania |
| 16:34 |
KikaRz |
Yes... |
| 16:34 |
KikaRz |
But today its 99,9% bugged |
| 16:34 |
KikaRz |
how I refresh X Server? |
| 16:35 |
KikaRz |
It's totally bugged... Without cars, just lights... pics out of the place |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
is trackmania free btw |
| 16:35 |
Calinou |
Jordach: the nations version, yes |
| 16:36 |
Calinou |
but it's not free as in onpon4 >:o |
| 16:36 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 16:36 |
KikaRz |
onpon4? |
| 16:36 |
Jordach |
nice |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87998#p87998 |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
pop corn |
| 16:37 |
MarkTwain |
does the client download ALL of the media? |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: of course it does, what do you think it is going to do with? |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
clients do not fap to media |
| 16:38 |
MarkTwain |
Or does it request what the server has? |
| 16:38 |
MarkTwain |
Because i have removed parts of mesecons but the textures are still there |
| 16:39 |
MarkTwain |
Okay i have a folder with 6 MB in it |
| 16:39 |
MarkTwain |
What do i do with it now? |
| 16:40 |
MarkTwain |
And how much faster is this? |
| 16:41 |
MarkTwain |
Calinou? |
| 16:42 |
KikaRz |
Who here plays CS 2D? |
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MarkTwain |
nickspam^ |
| 16:43 |
* Calinou |
just did 2nd in a trackmania race |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
147 LP \o/ |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
hi VanessaE |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: it depends on the remote media server's connection speed |
| 16:44 |
Calinou |
it is usually at least 3× as fast |
| 16:44 |
MarkTwain |
so it downloads all of it? |
| 16:45 |
MarkTwain |
Even if i have a series of top gear on it? |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
no |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
only the mod textures and sounds |
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* Morrolan |
sighs |
| 16:47 |
MarkTwain |
all mod textures and sounds? |
| 16:47 |
Morrolan |
And I thought Minecraft users were illiterate. :P |
| 16:48 |
MarkTwain |
Because when i connect to a server it seems like the client really is fapping to the media |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: don't you have a very slow connection anyway? |
| 16:49 |
MarkTwain |
My conection is fine |
| 16:50 |
MarkTwain |
*Connection |
| 16:50 |
MarkTwain |
Which .py do i open in MCEdit? |
| 16:50 |
MarkTwain |
config or setup? |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
what? |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
I don't know |
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MarkTwain |
so how do i upload to dropbox? Do i need an account? |
| 16:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howd folks |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 16:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*howdy even |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain: yes you do |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
you just drag and drop or use the dropbox program |
| 16:53 |
MarkTwain |
okay |
| 16:53 |
VanessaE |
is it possible to prevent the engine from using entity collision? |
| 16:54 |
Calinou |
edit the code? :P |
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VanessaE |
I'm having an issue with pipeworks that may be due to this, and I need to inform Nore of how (generally) to avoid it. |
| 16:55 |
MarkTwain |
lol i had an account already |
| 16:55 |
MarkTwain |
now what? |
| 16:55 |
Exio |
[12:09:43] <ch98> If VM ment virtual machine, there is no ppc version |
| 16:55 |
Exio |
ch98: qemu |
| 16:56 |
Exio |
works everywhere, emulates everything |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: so.. how would it be done? |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
obviously the spawned objects should be selectable, but not collide-able. |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
you can disable entity collision per-entity with lua already |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
(can you? I hope so ;_;) |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
physical=true/false? |
| 16:59 |
khonkhortisan |
then it falls through the ground |
| 16:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
into the void... |
| 16:59 |
Exio |
there is no void |
| 16:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
figuratively speaking |
| 16:59 |
khonkhortisan |
just artifacts down there |
| 17:00 |
khonkhortisan |
sky blue-colored pixels in pitch blackness |
| 17:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool! |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: come to where I am on the server |
| 17:02 |
MarkTwain |
12 mins 1.89 MB |
| 17:02 |
MarkTwain |
739 files |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
MarkTwain must be doing "ls pron_folder" |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 17:03 |
MarkTwain |
ls |
| 17:03 |
MarkTwain |
? |
| 17:03 |
khonkhortisan |
hahaha |
| 17:03 |
khonkhortisan |
you no know ls? |
| 17:03 |
MarkTwain |
I think it'll be a lot more than 1 MB |
| 17:04 |
khonkhortisan |
come to think of it, I don't know what ls stands for |
| 17:04 |
MarkTwain |
ln -s /path/to/file ~/Desktop |
| 17:04 |
MarkTwain |
? |
| 17:04 |
khonkhortisan |
ah, list |
| 17:04 |
MarkTwain |
oh |
| 17:04 |
MarkTwain |
Ive been using tree lol |
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khonkhortisan |
tree looks nicer |
| 17:05 |
MarkTwain |
ls is neater |
| 17:05 |
MarkTwain |
for less files |
| 17:05 |
MarkTwain |
lol ive taken the hard way for soo many things lol |
| 17:05 |
MarkTwain |
wait.. |
| 17:05 |
khonkhortisan |
ls gives you a table |
| 17:06 |
khonkhortisan |
The longer the names are, the less columns |
| 17:06 |
MarkTwain |
How can i get all the mods i have installed? |
| 17:06 |
MarkTwain |
in a file |
| 17:06 |
MarkTwain |
to upload |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: *poke* |
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khonkhortisan |
FPS=3 frozen window, not refreshing the frame |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
ohh |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
depends on whether you want to count modpacks as one mod, and whether you added any mods in that modpack |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: no worries, I'll just take a screenshot |
| 17:08 |
khonkhortisan |
just enable all your mods for the world, then process that file |
| 17:09 |
MarkTwain |
After i added all the media files, can i add more after when i add new mods? |
| 17:09 |
MarkTwain |
I think it would be better if it requested files rather that getting all of them |
| 17:11 |
MarkTwain |
Calinou, how can i set it out nicely and not spam my dropbox folder? |
| 17:11 |
MarkTwain |
like a true HTTPServer |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
set it out nicely? |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
you can create a directory for all your mod files |
| 17:12 |
MarkTwain |
okay |
| 17:12 |
MarkTwain |
and il upload mods aswell... |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan: fun fact: RMS wrote the "ls" command |
| 17:12 |
* Jordach |
builds stealth fighter in blender |
| 17:12 |
Exio |
did you rtfm that Calinou? |
| 17:12 |
* Calinou |
saps Jordach's stealth fighter |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
Exio: yeah |
| 17:12 |
Exio |
:P |
| 17:13 |
MarkTwain |
The thing is: homedecor signs and digiline monitor share the same textures |
| 17:14 |
Jordach |
Calinou, its only subdivided to a 4^3 cube |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
replace the textures in any order then |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Would any forum moderators mind moving this to mod releases, please? |
| 17:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6214 |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
Calinou, my last model looked like an arwing |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
thefamilygrog66: done |
| 17:16 |
MarkTwain |
whole game: 10-15 sec, media files: 12 min |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
2 minute delay only :D |
| 17:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks, Calinou |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
np |
| 17:20 |
MarkTwain |
Everyone: post name of the server you are on |
| 17:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
none of the above |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
none, playing trackmania right now |
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ShadowNinja |
Does Lua have some base64 conversion functions? |
| 17:46 |
ShadowNinja |
(For adding SASL authentication to the IRC mod) |
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Calinou |
https://startpage.com/do/search?q=Lua+base64+conversion+functions |
| 17:49 |
ShadowNinja |
So no. But I can add my own. |
| 17:50 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, maybe LuaSocket has them... |
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sfan5 |
lawl, the linux kernel on my first core somehow broke because I used "sudo minicom --device /dev/ttyprintk" and now /bin/login is broken |
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Calinou |
"on my first core"? |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: it displayed a kernel oops screen but web browser and many other things were still working |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
...probably it wasn't the first core |
| 18:14 |
* Calinou |
gets random kernel panics when booting or logging in |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
quite rare, but it happens |
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Jordach |
Calinou, MK2: http://imgur.com/a/llGxz |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
(the right wing is strange because blender's mirror edit *still* doesnt work properly |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
) |
| 18:19 |
Exio |
Calinou: fixyourhardware |
| 18:19 |
Exio |
if a kernel panic happens randomly; check where is the problem :P |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
or not use linux |
| 18:20 |
Exio |
memtest, benchmarks, etc |
| 18:20 |
Exio |
Jordach: what do you suggest? a BSOD? |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
Exio, none on this vista tower |
| 18:20 |
Exio |
did you even get a kernel panic in that tower, too? |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
nope and nope |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
never had one |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
with 3.2 |
| 18:20 |
Exio |
with HW problems windowsis even worse than linux for crashing |
| 18:20 |
Exio |
windows is * |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
Exio, my hardware is fine, except for the dying PSU |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
Exio: the RAM is fine |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
this is probably because of 13.04 kernel ;-; |
| 18:21 |
Exio |
Calinou: wat |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
heard it was a known bug |
| 18:21 |
Exio |
ah |
| 18:21 |
* Exio |
uses 3.nine |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
apparently ubutnu doesn't like fast SSDs |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
--reddit |
| 18:22 |
Exio |
.something :D |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
Exio: no, windows handles them better |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
graphic driver crash doesn't put you a black screen forcing you to poweroff your PC |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
linux is really good |
| 18:23 |
Exio |
if your graphic driver crashes, then something is really wrong |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
for cross platform devs |
| 18:24 |
Exio |
if you don't want to play the lastest FPS around, it is ok too |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
yeah |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
OMFG |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
TIL crysis 3, BF3 and CoD are all good games |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
someone is using libtorrent |
| 18:25 |
Exio |
Calinou: i said lastest |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
these are lastest |
| 18:25 |
Exio |
Jordach: so what |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
it's latest btw :P |
| 18:25 |
Exio |
wtf |
| 18:25 |
Exio |
my spelling.so threw a segfault |
| 18:25 |
Exio |
Calinou: latest != good ;P |
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Calinou |
that was sarcasm :P |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
my fucking luck: http://i.imgur.com/oln7K39.png |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
im seeding myself |
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thexyz |
Jordach: what's that? µtorrent? |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
yus |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
3.0 |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
no ads :> |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
enjoy your NSA surveillance |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
<- doesnt give one fuck |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
where do you live? |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
UK |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
(not raine) |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
thing is, our own government torrents shit |
| 18:44 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
(its a legal safe haven here!) |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
up until 2015 |
| 18:44 |
thexyz |
anyway, https://twitter.com/_nothingtohide |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
thexyz, i see a modern day revolution coming |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
look at the recent libyan conflict and that other one which i cant remember the name for |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
the US will be crushed and major banks / corporate multi-nationals destroyed |
| 18:47 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
(actually, most 1st world countries will be crushed) |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
london riots? the stabbing of the british soldier? im seeing war brewing |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
I don't but I'm not into politics |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
thexyz, NSA spies are pushing the limits of human rights |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
the US will be sanctioned |
| 18:57 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
i once had an exil capcha |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
evil* |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
because it was in fuckin greek |
| 19:03 |
khonkhortisan |
then type it in fuckin greek |
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BlockMen |
hi |
| 19:12 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
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| 19:12 |
* khonkhortisan |
is now known as NodeMan |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan, fake |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, moonflower was merged |
| 19:13 |
[0gb_us] |
NodeMan to the rescue! |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 19:13 |
* Calinou |
backstabs NodeMan |
| 19:14 |
* Jordach |
saps Calinou |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
you cannot sap people |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
this is not BF3 |
| 19:14 |
khonkhortisan |
2. Hit with a bludgeon or club. |
| 19:14 |
* Jordach |
gives Calinou a good de-fibbing |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
that sounds real wrong :) |
| 19:15 |
ShadowNinja |
How do you escape '#' in minetest.conf? \#? "#string"? |
| 19:15 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.escape...() |
| 19:15 |
khonkhortisan |
nevermind |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
ShadowBot, not sure if possible |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
put the string between quotes? |
| 19:16 |
khonkhortisan |
Yeah me neither, ShadowBot |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
me NETHER |
| 19:16 |
khonkhortisan |
I believe my tab complete is ordered by last spoke |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
me NETHER |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
dammit Calinou |
| 19:19 |
* Jordach |
considers changing FB image to :trollface: |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
do that for your gravatar and minetest forum avatar |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
and on april 1st, change both to a pony of your choice. |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
:trollface: |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
Calinou, even better# |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
have a gif that loops over 20 seconds |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
so the eyes on my avatar change |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
its a windup, but funny |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
i want a chromebook sooo bad |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
lol, chromebook |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
people want celerons now? |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i want the Pixel |
| 19:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Meh. From what I hear, a Chromebook would be an awful fit for me. Though they are useful to a lot of people. |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
(in fact i'd remove the Panel and convert it to a monitor :) ) |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
>2880×1800 in small laptop |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
>still no WQHD in 24" |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
kay |
| 19:36 |
[0gb_us] |
They don't use local applications, only web applications. No Minetest! |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
you can install linux |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us], flash SSD, install Ubuntu |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
or debian 7 if in feeling lucky </pun> |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
im* |
| 19:38 |
[0gb_us] |
The hardware isn't set up for normal operating systems. In both hardware and software, it's built as only a web browser. |
| 19:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Also, Chrome OS is GNU/Linux, but with a lot of stuff stripped out, and other stuff more specialized. |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
it is |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
but it isn't powerful |
| 19:40 |
[0gb_us] |
No, but neither is the hardware on those things. Fast, but weak. |
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| 19:42 |
Jordach |
just like your mother |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
> Fast, but weak |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
>:D |
| 19:43 |
[0gb_us] |
That is a good point. Fast, but weak minded. |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
thats what she said |
| 19:44 |
[0gb_us] |
No, that's what I said about her ... weren't you paying attention? |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
ffs |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
my download folder after clearing 1 wk later: 500mb |
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| 19:46 |
[0gb_us] |
Personally, I want one of those Alienware laptops. They're supposed to be as least as powerful as desktop computers, and if you get the right ones, they come with GNU/Linux. |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
Alienware == Dell |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
your expecting linux, LOL |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
all of them come with UEFI and Windows 8 |
| 19:47 |
[0gb_us] |
Jordach, http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/ |
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| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
Dell hide the Ubuntu ones from being reached from the main site. But with a link, they DO exist. |
| 19:48 |
[0gb_us] |
*Hides |
| 19:49 |
* Jordach |
drools |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
^ |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
Jordach, all modern mobos have UEFI |
| 19:49 |
Jordach |
its like Calinou's wet dream |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
since sandy bridge/bulldozer |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i was talking about the alienware |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], alienware is stupid |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
expensive stuff with bad performance |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], no laptop can beat a desktop |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
i'd rather but a intel xeon |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
buy* |
| 19:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Calinou, okay, what would you suggest? Requirements: must be moble, must be powerful, must NOT come with Windows. |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
octacore xeon + quad SLI of titans |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
and use THAT for gaming |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], clevo laptops |
| 19:51 |
[0gb_us] |
!g clevo |
| 19:51 |
MinetestBot |
[0gb_us]: http://www.clevo.com.tw/ |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
they are very customisable, and come without an OS |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
you can even buy them without RAM or storage |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
<Calinou> :phoronix rolleyes: |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
:phoronix happy face: |
| 19:51 |
[0gb_us] |
Without an OS is fine. I don't mind installing myself, I just mind paying for WIndows. |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
MOFA Series |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
Mother of Fucking Awesome |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], by the way, you do not want a dedicated graphics card today |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
switchable graphics is a PITA |
| 19:53 |
[0gb_us] |
THe links on their site are malformed, making it hard to navigate. ("http://www/en/products/prodinfo.asp?productid=466") I'll look into it when I'm less pressed for time. |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
really, just get an IGP |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 19:54 |
* Jordach |
is building a space station on an empty map |
| 19:55 |
* Calinou |
just beat graphitemaster at chess |
| 19:55 |
Calinou |
won with time \o/ |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
he'll wax his nether soon |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
we need a YT link spammer |
| 19:55 |
ShadowNinja |
NickServ and SASL authentication in the IRC mod now. :-) new_LuaIRC branch. Add it to your server and join my IRC network. :-) |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
Jordach, do it |
| 19:56 |
[0gb_us] |
I don't know what to build. I need to finish building my game before I know what I have to work with while building in-game. |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam will probably help too, since he wrote the nether mod |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
hm? |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
Calinou, mese waxing strips |
| 19:56 |
Jordach |
but they require minetest_game pull 169 ;) |
| 19:57 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: You should add it to your server. |
| 19:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay, so dedicated graphics cards are bad? |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], yeah |
| 19:57 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay. Got it. |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
what games do you want to play, anyway? |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
> Minetest |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
> Huge strainer of Lappies |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
Jordach, no, I'd bet on minecraft |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
</pwnage> |
| 19:57 |
Calinou |
:-) |
| 19:58 |
[0gb_us] |
One I bought but don't yet have the resources to play is Tiny and Big in Grandpa's Leftovers. It's stated to be very resource intensive, but I got it as part of a bundle. I'd like to be able to try it. |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
Calinou, if i bought a few dedicated BTC mining machines you can have some |
| 19:59 |
[0gb_us] |
Minecraft? What about Minecraft? Minetest has major issues, but Minecraft is beyond redeemable. |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
(Actual BTC) |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
meh, no :> |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
one BTC = 80 Euro |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us], oh |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
Jordach, thought it was 12 euros |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
its actually pricey over here |
| 20:00 |
* Calinou |
takes 5.5 BTC and buys a 770 with that |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
too bad you can't buy directly with BTC :P |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
how awesome shopping could be if we used bitcoin |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
no BTC, no product |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
you make an order: it waits until paid off |
| 20:01 |
[0gb_us] |
The Humble Bundle sells using Bitcoins as a payment option. |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
Calinou, 5600BTC if i have a longer beard than you |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
<- shouldnt be betting BTC |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
Guys, it's normal, at 1280x768, when I put my mouse out of screen, it slides? |
| 20:02 |
khonkhortisan |
it is normal vs is it normal |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
but is it or not? |
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
sorta |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
khonkhortisan, you have teamviewer? |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
i want to show you '-' |
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
You can move your mouse out of the screen in the time it takes minetest to read the distance it moved and recenter |
| 20:03 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot, Y U NO OP? |
| 20:03 |
khonkhortisan |
!op MinetestBot |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
i shot MinetestBot's NickServ |
| 20:03 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, op MinetestBot |
| 20:04 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: op MinetestBot |
| 20:04 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, op MinetestBot |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
lol. |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
Cool... |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
ShadowBot, op sfan5 |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
ShadowBot: op sfan5 |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
Not working :C |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: If you register with ShadowBot I can give you the #minetest,op capability. |
| 20:05 |
PilzAdam |
and how do I do that? |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
Registering '-' |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
KikaRz: It ignores everyone but me when MinetestBot is around. |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: /msg ShadowBot help register |
| 20:06 |
* khonkhortisan |
drops blue rice |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
does ShadowBot execute commands as python shell |
| 20:06 |
ShadowNinja |
But you will have to send the cammands in a PM because of the ignore. |
| 20:06 |
ShadowNinja |
No. |
| 20:06 |
khonkhortisan |
eew they're spinning |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
commands* |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
This (1 more message) |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
lawl |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
u_u' |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
<KikaRz> op #minetest sfan5 |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
<ShadowBot> Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder... is it really you? |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
*w* |
| 20:10 |
thexyz |
"register with shadowbot" |
| 20:10 |
thexyz |
oh fuck |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, op PilzAdam |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
damn |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, op PilzAdam |
| 20:11 |
KikaRz |
lawl |
| 20:11 |
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| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
* Eliza... Eliza... Eliza... |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
> Ahh. Please continue... |
| 20:12 |
fgro_ |
Vanessa? |
| 20:12 |
thexyz |
I still think this idea with bots having OP status is very stupid |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
by the way, we could remove ChanServ |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
we don't need it |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, she's seeing you. |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
we have enough idlers :) |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
* Eliza... Eliza... Eliza... |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
> Ahh. Please continue... |
| 20:13 |
fgro_ |
oh well soko idles here ... |
| 20:13 |
KikaRz |
* Vanessa Ezekowitz |
| 20:13 |
KikaRz |
> I see. |
| 20:13 |
KikaRz |
To see the continue of this chat, Query me :) |
| 20:14 |
KikaRz |
Or just do /msg KikaRz Lonely |
| 20:14 |
fgro_ |
one question to the developers of minetest . can you confirm that the announcement part of the server needs to be revised? |
| 20:14 |
khonkhortisan |
ChanServ MinetestBot ShadowBot NickServ |
| 20:15 |
thexyz |
fgro_: why? |
| 20:15 |
fgro_ |
because the announcement kills my firewall sessions |
| 20:16 |
fgro_ |
i have a juniper device running and i was wondering why my device got red ... the problem is, the announcement server makes always a new session in a short time period |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/F5K2V0v.png |
| 20:16 |
KikaRz |
I'll paste my talking show :) |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
all of this is hand built (i dont like WE(] |
| 20:18 |
KikaRz |
http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v |
| 20:18 |
KikaRz |
That's how I feel |
| 20:18 |
fgro_ |
i guss there is a missiing quit udp session command |
| 20:18 |
KikaRz |
* Me |
| 20:18 |
KikaRz |
> Eliza |
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| 20:19 |
fgro_ |
lets say, the firewall can handle 8000 sessions ... as i was reading the logs and saw 6000 sessions open i was a bit shoked |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
Stupid computer. |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
Human: 3 plus 100000000000000000000000000000 minus 2 times 10 divided by 10 times 1000 |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
MathBot: Yes, of course... 3 and 100000000000000000000000000000 minus 2 times 10 divided by 10 times 1000 is definately 1e+29 |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
1e+29... |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
fgro_: I guess you should talk with proller about it |
| 20:19 |
fgro_ |
and the session originated most from minetest master announcement server ip |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
fgro_: in #minetest-dev probably |
| 20:20 |
fgro_ |
who is proller? |
| 20:20 |
proller |
moo |
| 20:20 |
fgro_ |
you |
| 20:20 |
fgro_ |
,-) |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
^ missing eye |
| 20:20 |
fgro_ |
O_o |
| 20:21 |
fgro_ |
proller ... can we take over this theme? |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
Big Chat about my Friendship... :( |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v |
| 20:21 |
proller |
maybe stupid firewall? |
| 20:21 |
fgro_ |
hmmm juniper ssg20 device .... stupid? |
| 20:22 |
fgro_ |
lmao |
| 20:22 |
fgro_ |
i guess everyone should havea cisco device instead a simple juniper firewall |
| 20:22 |
fgro_ |
its not a firewall problem |
| 20:23 |
proller |
if no sesion on thexyz server - its your problem |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
lol, cisco |
| 20:23 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, Yes |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
fgro_, this would kill pron |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
Last time I checked I was myself |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, this is worse than most MLP fanfics |
| 20:24 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, you like my story? |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
:| |
| 20:24 |
fgro_ |
give me an understanding what the announcement part exactly does, i think the annoucement server starts a new request and does not care about an exisiting session |
| 20:24 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, you like my story? |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, Reviewing... just got here |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
meh |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
What story? |
| 20:24 |
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| 20:24 |
proller |
fgro_, [probably] jiniper think about open connections. when they closed |
| 20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: It will ignore you in the channel, lemme give you the capagility. |
| 20:25 |
KikaRz |
http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
R |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
E |
| 20:25 |
proller |
fgro_, can you show info about sessions? |
| 20:26 |
fgro_ |
i could show you a log extract of the alarm, but i guess this does not really help much |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, It's a simple conversation. More of an interesting fragment than a full story. Call it a character sketch. |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
good night |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
sfan5, NIght |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
night |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, op PilzAdam |
| 20:27 |
fgro_ |
furthermore i like o understand why the sessions (old ones) kept open, while regular clients they connect to the server and disconnect terminates their session also |
| 20:27 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: It will ignore you in the channel while MinetestBot is around. |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
ok |
| 20:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Use a PM. |
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| 20:28 |
ShadowNinja |
(It avoids conflicts with MinetestBot resulting in duplicated responses) |
| 20:28 |
proller |
fgro_, show src-dst ports |
| 20:28 |
proller |
3-5 |
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| 20:30 |
fgro_ |
hm is this command be used by cisco? |
| 20:30 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, this bot can see what I feel |
| 20:34 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, hm? |
| 20:34 |
fgro_ |
so i have he debug flow |
| 20:34 |
fgro_ |
what you like to see |
| 20:34 |
proller |
flow 8) |
| 20:35 |
fgro_ |
whats behind flow 8 |
| 20:35 |
proller |
8) == 8-) |
| 20:36 |
proller |
show something |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
flow session id 7342 |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
flow_main_body_vector in ifp bgroup0 out ifp N/A |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
flow vector index 0x1, vector addr 0x20f6a18, orig vector 0x20f6a18 |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
post addr xlation: 80.152.199.113->176.9.122.10. |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
send out through normal path |
| 20:36 |
fgro_ |
flow_ip_send: 0000:80.152.199.113->176.9.122.10,17 => ethernet0/0(47) flag 0x0, vlan 0 |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
what OldCoder ? |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
I wasn't clear about how the bot knows what you feel |
| 20:37 |
proller |
fgro_, its tcp or udp? |
| 20:37 |
proller |
jr icmp |
| 20:37 |
proller |
or |
| 20:38 |
fgro_ |
this is ud |
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fgro_ |
udp, forwarding udp 30000 |
| 20:39 |
* Calinou |
awards xavier108 "most useless advice" prize |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94390#p94390 |
| 20:39 |
fgro_ |
flow session id 7966 |
| 20:40 |
proller |
udp session? |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
Calinou: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6238 |
| 20:41 |
fgro_ |
UDP src port: 0-65535, dst port: 30001-30001 |
| 20:41 |
fgro_ |
i dont forward tcp |
| 20:41 |
fgro_ |
i forward udp ports to internal server |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
thexyz, ._. |
| 20:42 |
proller |
try find something like session timeout |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
while we're about world creation, it would be nice if worlds were automagically named when they have no name |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
eg. world9770 |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
4 random numbers :p |
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thexyz |
Calinou: come to think about it, why not generate random user names made from several words? |
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[0gb_us] |
13:44:01: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from |
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[0gb_us] |
13:44:01: ERROR[main]: /home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/init.lua: |
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[0gb_us] |
13:44:01: ERROR[main]: /home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/init.lua:31: module 'irc' not found: |
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[0gb_us] |
13:44:01: ERROR[main]: no field package.preload['irc'] |
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[0gb_us] |
13:44:01: ERROR[main]: no file '/home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/irc/init.lua' |
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[0gb_us] was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like ix.io or pastebin.ubuntu.com. |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81238-Xonotic-0-7-Has-New-Compiler-Game-Features&p=335643#post335643 |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
\o/ |
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Calinou |
thexyz, no sarcasm please |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
the thing I suggested is serious, and would be useful to some modders |
| 20:49 |
thexyz |
that's no sarcasm though |
| 20:49 |
thexyz |
guess it's just a bad idea then |
| 20:49 |
fgro_ |
nothing found |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
ah, I read it as sarcasm |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
would be funny :P |
| 20:51 |
Exio |
[16:38:46] <[0gb_us]> The hardware isn't set up for normal operating systems. In both hardware and software, it's built as only a web browser. |
| 20:52 |
Exio |
why not |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
it is |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
but that's 0gb_us reasoning |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
conspiracy theory :P |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
Should I start making one mod that contains 20 blocks? |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
well, I got one idea for a mod |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
:) |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
well, contains quite more than 20 blocks |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
maybe... 40 blocks... 20 colors, 40 mixtures. |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
20 colors, 20 mixtures |
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| 21:05 |
Calinou |
20 blocks of what? |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
secret. |
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KikaRz |
well... it must cost a bit of media... |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
not too much '-' |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, I have the feeling that you see this channel as your diary |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
well, it isnt |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
Yes it is. |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
Not only imine |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
everyone's diary. |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
it also is MinetestBot's diary, PilzAdam |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
Yea Pilz. |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
night |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE <e3 |
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fgro_ |
proller: didnt find anything which indicates to be a dropping session or bad session |
| 21:09 |
KikaRz |
I hate WiNE NOW! |
| 21:09 |
KikaRz |
he uncontrols my monitor :( |
| 21:10 |
proller |
fgro_, udp is packets, session from udp is only in mind of your firewall |
| 21:11 |
fgro_ |
question, do i need to give the session a timeout (default its set to 0 ) |
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KikaRz |
Setting up my GitHub |
| 21:13 |
fgro_ |
i mean i could add a timeout for the udp protocol |
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KikaRz |
Guys, what license I should use for a mod? |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
All rights reserverd. |
| 21:17 |
Warr1024 |
WTFPL seems to be quite popular |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
well, I want one simple... |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
to my future mod |
| 21:17 |
mitori |
PilzAdam, did you hear new sounds? |
| 21:17 |
Warr1024 |
MIT and ISC are also pretty nice for code. |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
mitori, ... no? |
| 21:18 |
mitori |
i must have messed up with commiting them |
| 21:18 |
mitori |
but anyway |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
I really should need to add LICENSE.md to github? |
| 21:18 |
mitori |
my fork of minetest_game |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
i used your advice |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
check it out |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
i didn't change the gravel |
| 21:19 |
Warr1024 |
KikaRz: just a plain-text LICENSE file is also common. LICENSE.md is a githubism... |
| 21:19 |
fgro_ |
proller: thiw would mean, the firewall has session cache turned on, if you say so |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
you are mito551 on github? |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
yes |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
you dont have a fork of minetest_game |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
what, |
| 21:19 |
mitori |
what. |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/mito551?tab=repositories |
| 21:20 |
fgro_ |
proller: but i dont have session cache turned on, i set the default value (1 minute) for session timeout. dont think that this would solve it, but i could try it for next 24 hours |
| 21:20 |
mitori |
ok |
| 21:20 |
mitori |
i'll add this and tell you, ok? |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
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| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
and what's .gitignore? |
| 21:21 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, -> #git |
| 21:21 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 21:21 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: a file listing patterns of paths to ignore |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
(for Git, of course) |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
hey VanessaE |
| 21:22 |
Warr1024 |
hi VanessaE |
| 21:22 |
* VanessaE |
just lost an argument with an old motherboard :( |
| 21:22 |
Warr1024 |
KikaRz: doesn't github have some help pages on this stuff? |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, problem is: KikaRz cant read manuals |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: send it to bed without dinner! |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
IDK |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, shut up. |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: I just sent it into a plastic bag to be deposited into the nearest trash bin :-/ |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
(I was gonna move my MT server to it) |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
a real disciplinarian, you are |
| 21:25 |
mitori |
PilzAdam, should i do a pull request? or it's fine to leave it as it is |
| 21:25 |
PilzAdam |
mitori, just point me to the commit |
| 21:26 |
mitori |
https://github.com/mito551/minetest_game/commit/2ee54a415c18d9364cfbf683a74897c719a3e78f |
| 21:27 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: would you say it's a good time to change over to the new scriptapi stuff for established mods? I mean the minetest.env -> minetest. stuff |
| 21:29 |
thexyz |
we should update the wiki as well |
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PilzAdam |
Uberi, I will upgrade my mods soon |
| 21:31 |
PilzAdam |
but only the ones that are incompatible with 0.4.6 |
| 21:32 |
Uberi |
so the old way will be supported for the forseeable future, yes? |
| 21:32 |
PilzAdam |
it will be supported like forever |
| 21:32 |
Uberi |
awesome |
| 21:32 |
PilzAdam |
mitori, wow! aweseome! definitely better |
| 21:33 |
mitori |
thank you |
| 21:33 |
Warr1024 |
is there some kind of "minimum minetest version required" feature in the script api anywhere? |
| 21:33 |
mitori |
will you add this? I have done a pull request |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
yes, I am willing to merge them |
| 21:33 |
Uberi |
yes, but you need to code it yourself |
| 21:33 |
Uberi |
Warr1024: minetest.get_version(), I believe |
| 21:33 |
Warr1024 |
ah, I see |
| 21:34 |
mitori |
PilzAdam you can't imagine how happy i am to hear (read) this :D |
| 21:35 |
PilzAdam |
two little suggestions, thoug: 1) there is one dig_crumbly that is higher than the others; make it a bit less high 2) the place_node sounds seem to fit best for crumbly nodes; maybe create a different for hard nodes? again, this are _minor_ suggestions; you dont have to change it |
| 21:36 |
Uberi |
I love the choppy dig sounds |
| 21:37 |
mitori |
"maybe create a different for hard nodes" how would I do that |
| 21:38 |
mitori |
in terms of code |
| 21:39 |
PilzAdam |
table.dug = table.dug or {name="default_dug_node_hard", gain=1.0} in default.node_sound_stone_defaults() and wood_defaults() |
| 21:39 |
mitori |
... |
| 21:39 |
mitori |
where do I find it? |
| 21:39 |
PilzAdam |
functions.lua in default/ |
| 21:40 |
mitori |
so that's more about your stuff |
| 21:40 |
PilzAdam |
hm? |
| 21:40 |
NakedFury |
I have been adding new sounds for my version but I dont know how to add diferent sounds for the different type of stairs since they are not done in a normal way |
| 21:40 |
mitori |
i mean that it's up to you to modify it |
| 21:41 |
PilzAdam |
you can modfiy that in your commit, of course |
| 21:41 |
mitori |
it's not minetest_game, is it? |
| 21:41 |
PilzAdam |
it is |
| 21:41 |
mitori |
ohhhhh. alright. sorry. my bad |
| 21:41 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L18 |
| 21:42 |
mitori |
i already did the first suggestion :D |
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| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
also, dirt has no walking sound currently (line 28), you can create one if you want |
| 21:44 |
NakedFury |
How would you go about adding wood and dirt walking sounds when going on their slabs and stair versions? |
| 21:44 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, stairs/init.lua line 210 <- is that what you mean? |
| 21:45 |
NakedFury |
I mean the way the are done in stairs plus |
| 21:45 |
PilzAdam |
I dont know about stairs plus, sry |
| 21:45 |
NakedFury |
its no a simple register_node for each version |
| 21:46 |
PilzAdam |
in minetest_game you pass a sound table to register_stair_and_slab() |
| 21:46 |
mitori |
well, you could just define a new table |
| 21:46 |
NakedFury |
im not very good at it |
| 21:47 |
PilzAdam |
<mitori> i already did the first suggestion :D <- can you commit? |
| 21:47 |
NakedFury |
I found good sounds here: http://www.freesound.org/ then I just cut them into parts to be played |
| 21:49 |
mitori |
i'm already finished with the second, so it'll all be there in a minute |
| 21:49 |
PilzAdam |
nice! |
| 21:50 |
mitori |
seems like it's done |
| 21:50 |
mitori |
i commited it in my fork and there is a pull request |
| 21:50 |
PilzAdam |
yep, got it |
| 21:51 |
PilzAdam |
do you agree decreasing the gain of gravel to 0.2? |
| 21:51 |
PilzAdam |
*of gravel footsteps |
| 21:52 |
mitori |
yeah, a sec. |
| 21:52 |
PilzAdam |
I have already done it |
| 21:53 |
mitori |
oh ok |
| 21:53 |
mitori |
sure :D |
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PilzAdam |
hmmm.. isnt the place_hard a bit too gravel-ish? |
| 21:58 |
mitori |
the second one? |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
both, I would expect them to be more "clean" like the dig_cracky |
| 22:00 |
mitori |
oh okay. it was a lot of... changing the original sound. be right there |
| 22:00 |
mitori |
but i agree with you on that one :D |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
the license is WTFPL? |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
uh, is anyone else having trouble connecting to the forums? |
| 22:04 |
Uberi |
pings are timing out too |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, nope |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
hmm, that's strange |
| 22:12 |
mitori |
which license does "do whatever the fuck you want as long as you give me (at least some kind of) credit?" |
| 22:12 |
PilzAdam |
CC BY-SA |
| 22:14 |
mitori |
that's what I thought. |
| 22:15 |
bdjnk |
Why include SA |
| 22:15 |
bdjnk |
? |
| 22:15 |
bdjnk |
That's not do whatever you want... |
| 22:15 |
FreeFull |
Or some variant of the BSD license |
| 22:16 |
mitori |
well, i like cc. and SA sounds nice |
| 22:16 |
mitori |
so, CC BY-SA. i don't mind deviations ;) |
| 22:17 |
PilzAdam |
bdjnk, that would allow others to re-share it as a different license, so a 3rd person doesnt have to give credit to mitori |
| 22:17 |
mitori |
oh wow. thank you. i'm commiting all the changes right now. |
| 22:19 |
bdjnk |
Well, maybe I don't get how it works. I just read the simple page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US |
| 22:19 |
bdjnk |
But I'm no lawyer. |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
I am neither |
| 22:20 |
Uberi |
for Minetest, you are best off with anything up to a NC sharealike |
| 22:21 |
mitori |
bdjnk look, if i go with just CC BY that means I |
| 22:21 |
PilzAdam |
well, to get it in minetest_game CC BY-SA is the highest possible |
| 22:22 |
bdjnk |
Highest possible? |
| 22:22 |
mitori |
that means that it would be distributed once with attribution to me. but then, someone may change the license of some kind of deviations, which would no longer point to me |
| 22:22 |
Uberi |
it's GPL isn't it? sharealike and nc is already part of the GPL |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, first of all, Minetests code is LGPL; Minetests media is CC BY-SA, and -ND is not compatible with that one |
| 22:23 |
mitori |
and SA forbids to distribute it with other licenses. |
| 22:23 |
Uberi |
ah, LGPL |
| 22:23 |
mitori |
alright guys. PilzAdam, waiting to see my commit, bdjnk, good luck with figuring that stuff out. good night, all |
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PilzAdam |
and LGPL allows it to use the program in a commercial sowtware, as long as its linked as a seperate libary |
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PilzAdam |
mitori, I made the place_hard sounds a bit louder |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE (and others), can you test https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/sounds_mito2 ? |
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| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no, way too quiet now |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
and the walking sound sounds like someone's rubbing something on the microphone |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
all the other sounds such as sheep are LOOOOUUUUDDD by comparison |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
did you remember to normalize your audio files to -3dB first? |
| 22:56 |
PilzAdam |
how do you do that in audacity? |
| 22:56 |
VanessaE |
diggin at leaves sounds like "tshh tssh tssh" sometimes, and other times it sounds like something tapping at a piece of wood in a large room |
| 22:56 |
VanessaE |
in the Effects menu, "Normalize" |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
digging stone sounds like a drum beat almost |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
(the "you just dug it" sound I mean) |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
is there any way to do this all at once for all the files? |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
not sure, but I don't think so |
| 22:59 |
VanessaE |
digging sand just sounds way wrong now (the same sound as leaves) |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
ditto for gravel |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
gravel sounds terrible |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
put the old sound back for that one, it was perfect |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
the sound you're using for grass now would probably work well for snow, however |
| 23:01 |
khonkhortisan |
What is it that makes a plant diggable, placable, and able to have something placed in the same spot as it? |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
buildable_to |
| 23:02 |
khonkhortisan |
ah, and selectable? |
| 23:02 |
Exio |
pointable_to |
| 23:02 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 23:02 |
Exio |
iirc :P |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
walking on stone sounds too repetitive. |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
wood should definitely have a different sound than stone |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
imho sounds should not be based on whether the material is hard, or has a particular digging propertt. |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
property* |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
they need to be based on the actual material being discussed |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
hitting something soft with a steel pick, for example, should make a fairly soft sound, but if I break stone, I should hear the 'ring' of the metal in the pick |
| 23:09 |
VanessaE |
(well not ring, but surely some kind of metallic sound) |
| 23:13 |
VanessaE |
Exio: pointable I think (not _to) |
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| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
digging at a tree seems fine though |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, pull again |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
normalized all sounds to -3dB |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
walking on stone is silent now |
| 23:22 |
PilzAdam |
I guess the grass walking is too loud |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, it's there |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
just really quiet |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
no, the loudness there is right |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
stone is too quiet |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
check your in-game gain settings |
| 23:24 |
PilzAdam |
try changing all default_hard_footstep to gain=0.5 in default/functions.lua |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
line 21? |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, all of the, |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
them* |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
changed. testing |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
and change gravel to gain=0.5 too, (search for default_gravel_footstep, its in 2 different files) |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
stone sounds loud enough now. |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
ok, lemme see about the gravel |
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| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
gravel could be just a touch louder |
| 23:29 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt sound so good if its louder |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
walking on stone/wood/grass, and digging trees/leaves/wood/gravel/stone seem well-enough balanced |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
one thing that's too loud - too much *bass* that is - is the "you just dug that item" sound |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
(the sound when the node disappears) |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
yea, also the dig_cracky could be a bit more like place_hard |
| 23:31 |
VanessaE |
actually the walking-on-grass sound has too much bass also |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
the placing sounds seem fine |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
leaves lack a "you just dug that" sound (wtf is the right term?) |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
dug_node |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
sand and leaves dont have that sound |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
I don't do enough in-game sound work to remember :) |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
yeah, sand needs something |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
hm, now I have to re-do the sounds for pipeworks. dammit :) |
| 23:35 |
PilzAdam |
how about removing the dug_node sound? |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
naw, just tune it |
| 23:35 |
khonkhortisan |
If you do add luacontrollers, please add digilines with it |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
it adds depth to the game. |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: are they safe? |
| 23:37 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, well, I joined your server yesterday to crash it with Lua controllers :-p |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
did you succeed? :D |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
oh WITH |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
(in which case you failed :D ) |
| 23:37 |
Exio |
/report PilzAdam griefer |
| 23:37 |
Exio |
;P |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: luacontrollers re-enabled, digilines added. they'll become available at the next restart. |
| 23:39 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, force pull the branch again |
| 23:39 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:39 |
PilzAdam |
all volumes are adjusted now |
| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
so, TODO: 1) adjust dug_node 2) make dig_cracky more "hitting" (like place_hard) |
| 23:40 |
khonkhortisan |
ok |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
checking. |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the grass_footstep sound is actually pretty good, you need to get used to it |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
but a bit less bass would be good, I guess |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: at least add a few more sounds to the rotation |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
I only hear three, it needs a lot more |
| 23:43 |
PilzAdam |
can you do all this? |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
not really :) |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
now, which one is used while digging sand? |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
dig_crumbly |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
get rid of tapping sound |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
it sounds *way* out of place while digging sand |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
the other sound is okay though |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
what does "tapping sound" mean? |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
the high one? |
| 23:45 |
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| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
there's a "chish chish chish" sound, and a "tak tak tak" sound |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
get rid of the latter. |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
hard to describe them :D |
| 23:46 |
PilzAdam |
so, rm default_dig_choppy.2.ogg |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
mods/default/sounds/default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
that one. |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
or use it for something else, say digging at bricks. |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
I would say both dig_crumbly sounds fit, they just dont fit together |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
not when digging on sand anyway :D |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
and I would actually prefer 2.ogg |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
you dig dirt with it too |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
2 on sand and dirt is fine |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
1 on either of those sounds entirely wrong |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
ahhh, I mean .1 |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
ditto for gravel |
| 23:49 |
khonkhortisan |
http://postimg.org/image/yutqtfczb/ |
| 23:50 |
PilzAdam |
.2 is too high for me |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg is way wrong for any of those three materials at all. |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
.2. is far more appropriate |
| 23:50 |
khonkhortisan |
there isn't a clean join for those wires |
| 23:51 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, repull |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: those vertical bases are electrically conductive sideways |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
you're connecting all your buttons together |
| 23:51 |
khonkhortisan |
ik |
| 23:53 |
* PilzAdam |
has to bother mitori with the sounds again tomorrow... |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
pulled, checking |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
better. |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
now, bricks. That 'tak tak tak' sound of .1.ogg, use it for digging bricks |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
wut? |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
apply default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg (the one you just removed from sand/gravel) to digging on brick blocks. |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
bricks use the normal dig_cracky |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
the sound you're using for that sounds like knocking on a wooden door |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
entirely wrong for digging on something like brick |
| 23:56 |
PilzAdam |
yes, I wanted to ask mitori to change it to be more "hitting" like the place_hard sound |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
youcan't just use sound categories, you'll have to use a few sounds that are specific to certain materials. |
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