| Time |
Nick |
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| 00:00 |
PilzAdam |
but for me lua-api.txt as it is is the most useful format |
| 00:00 |
PilzAdam |
and I guess for other modders too |
| 00:00 |
sapier |
PilzAdam you're not center of world ;-) neither am I |
| 00:00 |
sapier |
I had vanessae's problem months ago and thought it was only my problem |
| 00:00 |
PilzAdam |
lua-api.txt aims at modders, not as regular users |
| 00:01 |
sapier |
but I guess me and vanessa aren't the only ones not finding paramters for "play_sound" |
| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
*at |
| 00:01 |
sapier |
and modders don't need help? ;-P |
| 00:01 |
Exio |
if you can make something userfriendly keeping the simpleness, do it |
| 00:01 |
Exio |
modders are humans |
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| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
I had to look up the parameters of sound_play() too (2 times actually), but I always found what I needed |
| 00:02 |
sapier |
who has written sound support? who merged it? |
| 00:02 |
PilzAdam |
c55 I guess |
| 00:02 |
PilzAdam |
it was added when I first got 0.4 IIRC |
| 00:02 |
sapier |
ok so at least you didn't know it ;-) |
| 00:03 |
NakedFury |
the lua api could use some organizing love |
| 00:03 |
PilzAdam |
maybe I should write a tutorial about how to use lua-api.txt |
| 00:03 |
NakedFury |
lua api.txt |
| 00:03 |
sapier |
I like the parser idea |
| 00:04 |
NakedFury |
pdf file indexed with everything in parts, etc |
| 00:04 |
sapier |
we already have almost a markup language there |
| 00:04 |
sapier |
I guess it could be extended to really be a parsable language ... but this requires any change to be checked prior merge |
| 00:04 |
NakedFury |
what will the parser do? |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: sign onto my server please |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
I would prefer a hand written pdf, to add examples and stuff |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
or codedevil since you mentioned the bug |
| 00:05 |
sapier |
e.g. create some interlinked html doc |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, why would I? |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
to help me test this fehcockta sound issue. |
| 00:05 |
sapier |
PilzAdam a handwritten pdf is as useless as wiki as it'll be outdated most of time |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/HmdBH8gj |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
there's the code as it stands now. |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
not if we put it in doc/ and add a rule to update it each release |
| 00:06 |
sapier |
release ... lol |
| 00:06 |
sapier |
so it'll be up to date for ... 1 day? |
| 00:06 |
Exio |
15 minutes |
| 00:06 |
MinerofLands |
PilzAdam is there a way to check your skills? |
| 00:07 |
MinerofLands |
like /skillcheck or whatever |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, the newly added API functions are unstable anyway |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
and its not like we rewrite the API after each release |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, not yet |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
I can add it |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, yep, 5 nodes hear distance |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
ok good |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
is the volume falling off like it shoul? |
| 00:08 |
sapier |
pilzadam I'm not talking about how it should be but what it's like ... 0.4.6 was deprecated about 2 weeks after release |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
should* |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
yes it is. |
| 00:08 |
sapier |
I guess 0.4.7 will hold for about 2-4 weeks until major improvements will be added |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
ok, that fixed that stupid bug :) |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, well, minetest.get_world_directory() is up-to-date since forever |
| 00:09 |
sapier |
yes and "if" will be there tooo ... but it's the new functions most moders need docs |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
sound_play() is not new... |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
and most mods are designed for stable release anyway |
| 00:10 |
sapier |
lol |
| 00:10 |
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| 00:10 |
sapier |
I guess you're the only one with this oppinion |
| 00:11 |
sapier |
if this was true I could fetch all your mods from 4 weeks ago and run at minetest-0.4.6 ;-) |
| 00:11 |
MinerofLands |
PilzAdam its pretty cool so far :D im testing it |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, /giveme economy:shop |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
has no textures yet |
| 00:12 |
kahrl |
if wiki modifications could be attached to pull requests it could be made a requirement to keep the dev wiki in sync |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, and /setmoney singleplayer 1000000000 |
| 00:12 |
sapier |
still neither play_sound nor set_animation nor attach doc have been fixed for at least 3 releases ;-) |
| 00:12 |
MinerofLands |
still skills arent given automatically i think |
| 00:13 |
sapier |
yes kahrl that'd be an option still I'd prefere offline doc |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, fix sound_play().... what is broken? |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, yes, somone in the forum repsonded to your topic |
| 00:13 |
sapier |
"parameters" |
| 00:13 |
kahrl |
sapier: wiki -> pdf converters exist |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, I was waiting for you to tell me your ideas |
| 00:14 |
kahrl |
in fact I helped write a special purpose one one time |
| 00:14 |
sapier |
kahrl do those keep links? |
| 00:14 |
kahrl |
they should, if written well |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
MinerofLands, best thing would be if you write them to the forum topic, its already too late here |
| 00:14 |
sapier |
sounds to be an option worth evaluating |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
ok now why the heck aren't the gates sounding right. |
| 00:15 |
sapier |
but I guess primary problem is commit/wiki linkage |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
just re-rendered the sound for those. it's mono, 48kHz, ogg, and using exactly the same sound code as the doors use. |
| 00:15 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, kahrl, we just need a modder community that keeps the wiki up to date |
| 00:15 |
kahrl |
PilzAdam, that hasn't happened |
| 00:15 |
sapier |
yes I know if gouvernment doesn't fit ppl just exchange ppl |
| 00:16 |
PilzAdam |
announce it in the forums or so |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/doors_and_gates.lua#L328 |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
what's wrong with this code? |
| 00:17 |
codedevil |
VanessaE: try gain 1 |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
codedevil: that's the exact same code as the doors are using and it works fine there. |
| 00:18 |
PilzAdam |
Im going to sleep now; bye |
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khonkhortisan |
I just saw my username on the minecraft forum. *grumble youtube embed grumble* |
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| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
damn it damn it damn it |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
sound positioning is right but the volume level is too quiet (always was) |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
and it doesn't fall off smoothly with distance |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
wtf am I doing wrong? |
| 00:29 |
sapier |
nothing I realized same problem |
| 00:29 |
sapier |
or we are doing same thing wrong |
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| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
sapier: the code as it stands now: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/doors_and_gates.lua#L301 |
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| 00:34 |
sapier |
I don't se any bug but sound is quite strange as it doesn't honor walls |
| 00:34 |
sokomine |
might be too much load for the server to handle walls etc |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
I don't care too much about that, only that it is loud like it should be. My sounds are normalzed to -3dB, so it isn't exactly quiet. |
| 00:35 |
sapier |
I guess it's implemented x² which is really fast drop in sound level ... |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
and that the volume falls off over distance like it does for other stuff |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
instead, it's quiet from the start and just abruptly cuts off when I get far enough away |
| 00:35 |
kahrl |
it actually calls alDistanceModel(AL_EXPONENT_DISTANCE); |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
| 00:44 |
Exio |
hey |
| 00:47 |
sokomine |
i only use sound for the bells mod run on the kingarthur server. it does have localised sound as well. how localized it is i don't know |
| 00:47 |
sokomine |
didn't test it that intensively |
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| 01:01 |
Exio |
"44 minutes remaining" |
| 01:01 |
Exio |
finished in 30 seconds or less |
| 01:01 |
Exio |
i missed windows |
| 01:18 |
ch98 |
does anyone have a spare computer with internet and minetest competable cpu? |
| 01:18 |
Exio |
for what? ;P |
| 01:19 |
ch98 |
making mods over vnc and looking at servers over vnc |
| 01:20 |
ch98 |
meaning using that cpu and this screen |
| 01:20 |
Exio |
the latency will kill you |
| 01:21 |
ch98 |
I don't think minetest will be built for few month on ppc |
| 01:21 |
ch98 |
better thab nothing |
| 01:21 |
ch98 |
than |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
what about getting a x86 desktop with a cheap APU? |
| 01:21 |
ch98 |
no money |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
i said "cheap" |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
meaning you will end with a low-end cpu what probably performs better than that ppc ;) |
| 01:22 |
ch98 |
how long will $200 laptop last? |
| 01:23 |
SmugLeaf |
chromebooks are nice |
| 01:25 |
Exio |
and expensive as hell SmugLeaf |
| 01:25 |
Exio |
ch98: laptop? i said desktop, performance/price |
| 01:26 |
ch98 |
it is cheeper by time it lasts to buy little newer mac than cheap ones |
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| 01:26 |
SmugLeaf |
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XE303C12-A01US-Chromebook-Wi-Fi-11-6-Inch/dp/B009LL9VDG/ref=br_lf_m_2858603011_1_1_img?ie=UTF8&s=pc&pf_rd_p=1531202082&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=2858603011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1DZ1N5CNYQNDD1N15NP8 |
| 01:26 |
SmugLeaf |
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_samsung_wifi |
| 01:26 |
SmugLeaf |
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131403 |
| 01:27 |
SmugLeaf |
> $250 |
| 01:27 |
SmugLeaf |
> expensive |
| 01:27 |
SmugLeaf |
Exio: fucking what? |
| 01:27 |
* Kacey |
is amazed ShadowBot hasnt kicked yet |
| 01:27 |
ch98 |
$200 means $132 |
| 01:27 |
SmugLeaf |
like, I've seen stuff cheaper then a chromebook |
| 01:28 |
SmugLeaf |
but i would never ever pay for it |
| 01:28 |
SmugLeaf |
ever |
| 01:28 |
SmugLeaf |
ch98: find a AIO apu "desktop" computer |
| 01:28 |
Kacey |
i have a 350 USD laptop |
| 01:28 |
Exio |
running MT in a VM |
| 01:28 |
Exio |
57 FPS when looking at the sky :D |
| 01:28 |
SmugLeaf |
Kacey: so do I, screen is extra terrible |
| 01:28 |
Exio |
and 35~ when looking around |
| 01:28 |
SmugLeaf |
the rest of it is nice considering |
| 01:28 |
ch98 |
some people has computer they almost never use lying around powerd up taking useless electricity |
| 01:28 |
Exio |
this computer was 1000 USD in total for me |
| 01:29 |
Kacey |
15 inch screen |
| 01:29 |
Kacey |
windows 8 installed |
| 01:29 |
Kacey |
not a bad computer |
| 01:30 |
SmugLeaf |
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1241558 |
| 01:30 |
SmugLeaf |
or keep poking newegg for something like this |
| 01:31 |
SmugLeaf |
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=apu+desktop&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Page=2 |
| 01:31 |
SmugLeaf |
tons of stuff here |
| 01:31 |
SmugLeaf |
way faster then ppc |
| 01:31 |
Exio |
than* |
| 01:31 |
ch98 |
do you know how fast this laptop is? |
| 01:33 |
SmugLeaf |
21:22:24 < ch98> how long will $200 laptop last? |
| 01:33 |
SmugLeaf |
a week |
| 01:33 |
Exio |
i'd say two |
| 01:33 |
SmugLeaf |
a month if you duck tape pillows to it |
| 01:33 |
ch98 |
yes and $3000 mac lasted almost 10 years now |
| 01:34 |
ch98 |
that is 120 month |
| 01:34 |
SmugLeaf |
my p4 is probably about that old |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
my amd duron |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
has more than 10 years, and still works like the first day |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
the problem is, the stuff from today is not the same as it was 12 years ago |
| 01:35 |
SmugLeaf |
vendor: American Megatrends Inc. |
| 01:35 |
SmugLeaf |
physical id: 0 |
| 01:35 |
SmugLeaf |
version: 1007.005 |
| 01:35 |
SmugLeaf |
date: 08/04/2005 |
| 01:35 |
ch98 |
tecnology is moving fast |
| 01:35 |
SmugLeaf |
almost that old |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
2001 here :D |
| 01:36 |
SmugLeaf |
this pc cost me maybe 500 bucks |
| 01:36 |
SmugLeaf |
but it has 6 hard drives in it |
| 01:36 |
SmugLeaf |
so that's at least 70% of the money spent on it |
| 01:37 |
SmugLeaf |
buy apple doesn't give you anything |
| 01:37 |
SmugLeaf |
except shiney |
| 01:37 |
SmugLeaf |
but it's your money, do what you want |
| 01:37 |
ch98 |
wait.... gcc4.2 is almost built |
| 01:37 |
Exio |
the funny thing is, ch98 doesn't have enough for a new mac |
| 01:38 |
SmugLeaf |
# gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.4 * [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.2 |
| 01:38 |
SmugLeaf |
Exio: that's ok |
| 01:38 |
ch98 |
only thing wrong on there is battery and cpu type |
| 01:38 |
SmugLeaf |
he can wait a few more years |
| 01:38 |
ch98 |
on here |
| 01:38 |
Exio |
i'm pretty sure the cpu speed would be too |
| 01:38 |
SmugLeaf |
then play with us |
| 01:38 |
Exio |
hahaha |
| 01:39 |
SmugLeaf |
my current laptop is a dell precision I ebayed for 380~ish |
| 01:39 |
ch98 |
I wish someone had ppc computer so I can work with them on compiling it |
| 01:39 |
SmugLeaf |
I could setup distcc if you want |
| 01:40 |
SmugLeaf |
actually I couldn't, too lazy |
| 01:40 |
SmugLeaf |
I have enough toolchains on this |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
haha |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
i'm being lazy |
| 01:40 |
Exio |
so playing around in a wxp vm |
| 01:41 |
SmugLeaf |
Exio: I dropped my laptop on asphalt |
| 01:41 |
Exio |
i can't drop my laptop anymore |
| 01:41 |
SmugLeaf |
it cracked the corner, and put a dent into the asphalt |
| 01:42 |
Exio |
the last time i dropped it; a plastic in the corner broke |
| 01:42 |
SmugLeaf |
I just put a bit of epoxy on the inside |
| 01:42 |
SmugLeaf |
precisions are made of metal |
| 01:42 |
SmugLeaf |
they are mobile work stations |
| 01:42 |
SmugLeaf |
which is why I bought it |
| 01:42 |
Exio |
i'm now a desktop guy |
| 01:43 |
Exio |
i prefer price/performance over portability |
| 01:43 |
SmugLeaf |
I agree |
| 01:43 |
ch98 |
so noone has computer just lying around? |
| 01:43 |
SmugLeaf |
ch98: no |
| 01:43 |
SmugLeaf |
well I have a p3 I could boot |
| 01:43 |
SmugLeaf |
but it's a server so the scsi raid array is too noisy |
| 01:44 |
SmugLeaf |
Exio: but my work means I have to have a "desktop" with me at all times |
| 01:44 |
SmugLeaf |
so I got this |
| 01:45 |
SmugLeaf |
I can't complain for the price |
| 01:45 |
SmugLeaf |
ch98: just keep saving, you'll get that new mac in a few years |
| 01:45 |
SmugLeaf |
I'm sure it won't be too out of date |
| 01:45 |
Exio |
or a powerful desktop (or even laptop) in just months! |
| 01:47 |
SmugLeaf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Technical_specifications_3 |
| 01:47 |
SmugLeaf |
> $2000 for ivy bridge |
| 01:47 |
SmugLeaf |
not out of date AT ALL |
| 01:48 |
ch98 |
then, most likly, my pc will be fixt or minetest will be built successfully in ppc mac in few month. |
| 01:48 |
Exio |
i'm not sure it will be able to handle MT with more than 4 FPS |
| 01:48 |
ch98 |
why not? |
| 01:48 |
SmugLeaf |
ppc is pretty inefficient |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
not because that |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
because you have an old laptop |
| 01:49 |
SmugLeaf |
that's why mac switch from ppc to x86 |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
and want to run a new program |
| 01:49 |
SmugLeaf |
and you probably have a ati rage128 or something |
| 01:49 |
SmugLeaf |
in that 10 year old pc |
| 01:49 |
ch98 |
is there any way to get fairly good guess on fps of minetest? |
| 01:49 |
Exio |
a new pc |
| 01:50 |
SmugLeaf |
compile it |
| 01:50 |
SmugLeaf |
and benchmark it |
| 01:50 |
ch98 |
on this computer so if i should do it |
| 01:51 |
SmugLeaf |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=66823#p66823 |
| 01:52 |
SmugLeaf |
also it seems there is a lower limit on the osx version needed |
| 01:53 |
ch98 |
irricht 1.7.3 works |
| 01:54 |
Exio |
that is only the basic-engine-wrapper in minetest |
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ch98 |
what exactry makes minetest not compile in older computers? too old of compiler? |
| 01:56 |
Exio |
no idea |
| 01:57 |
Exio |
it compiles in fbsd for a core dev, with gcc 4.2 iirc |
| 01:58 |
ch98 |
so only thing is to find out how to get gcc 4.2 to work with xcode here |
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MinerofLands |
joo joo |
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Exio |
how ironic |
| 03:05 |
Exio |
minecraft in a vm with lowest settings, 50~70FPS |
| 03:05 |
Exio |
minetest in a vm with the lowest settings (somewhat similar), self built minetest, pilzadam's build, and official, more than 55 FPS only when looking at the sky |
| 03:07 |
Exio |
same conditions, not rendering anything and look to the sky in MC is like 95 to 100 FPS |
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Exio |
that is faster than my netbook in both cases... how sad |
| 03:09 |
ShadowNinja |
Depends on the hardware? But Minetest could certainly use some work in the graphics speed department. |
| 03:11 |
Exio |
a vm running with three cores in a bulldozer x6 6100, nvidia gt 610 is the host gpu, enabled "3d and 2d accel" in vbox's settings, (32b guest system, windows xp sp3) |
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ShadowNinja |
So, good specs. Minetest should have a good computer setting. |
| 03:14 |
Exio |
in the host system (debian sid), MC and MT work very well |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
does the official 0.4.7 build has cURL support? |
| 03:19 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
*have |
| 03:19 |
Exio |
should |
| 03:36 |
Exio |
so cute |
| 03:36 |
Exio |
the vm with minecraft + far, fancy, smooth lighting maximium, 30~35 FPS (some vsync) |
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Exio |
night |
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Miner_48er |
i'm looking for the node removal code in Zeg9's itemframes it seems to use a nonstandered removal code could can_dig be used this way? https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-itemframes/blob/521a9ef5594eff22038f6d8b255d6f47c82ea90f/itemframes/init.lua |
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reactor |
Greetings! |
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khonkhortisan |
I should just use a c++ library to get some 3d functions in lua |
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khonkhortisan |
how do I set the font size in minetest? |
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VanessaE |
ok, purged my video driver, irrlicht, luajit, and minetest, rebooted, recompiled/reinstalled each of them in that order, and rebooted again, and I'm still getting crappy performance near the spawn on my server |
| 07:18 |
VanessaE |
I'm utterly out of ideas. wtf is going on with this? |
| 07:22 |
reactor |
So, eh. The screens, where do I upload them? |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
imgur or so |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
tinypic |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
any of those sorts of places |
| 07:23 |
reactor |
To be more precise, it looks like it renders with FOV less than the FOV displayed. |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE |
now that I don't know about |
| 07:27 |
khonkhortisan |
I can walk into a wall and still not see it at 5 view distance |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: do you get the same sort of FPS drop near the spawn? like half your usual rate? |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
particularly if you look north? |
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reactor |
God, why should most sites be so mouse-requiring? |
| 07:29 |
reactor |
So, here comes one: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fjot9v&s=5 |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
that's a known issue |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
though it's usually less severe |
| 07:30 |
reactor |
Also, the blocks' surfaces look like they're two polygons z-fighting |
| 07:30 |
reactor |
can be seen there, I think |
| 07:34 |
VanessaE |
that happens too |
| 07:35 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
especially if there are slabs/stairs + water involved |
| 07:35 |
reactor |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/718 related? |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
you know, I think I'm getting bit by that out-of-indicies issue (or rather, the effect of it) when I'm near the spawn |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
but there isn't that much stuff here, I've seen far more on redcrab's server and not experienced this kind of frame rate drop |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
reactor: I believe so, yes |
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VanessaE |
I used to be able to get 35-30 fps with 512px textures and a view range of 170. Now I can barely sustain 25 with default textures and a view range of 60. |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
there's some weird performance regression going on here |
| 07:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm slowing down with terminals, text editors, and the server map. |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
s/35-30/25-30/ |
| 07:38 |
ShadowBot |
What VanessaE meant to say was: I used to be able to get 25-30 fps with 512px textures and a view range of 170. Now I can barely sustain 25 with default textures and a view range of 60. |
| 07:38 |
VanessaE |
hah, it interprets sed expressions now? |
| 07:39 |
khonkhortisan |
what khonkhortisan meant to say. |
| 07:39 |
khonkhortisan |
s/khonkhortisan/ShadowBot/ |
| 07:39 |
ShadowBot |
What khonkhortisan meant to say was: what ShadowBot meant to say. |
| 07:39 |
khonkhortisan |
ha! |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
hha |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 07:40 |
khonkhortisan |
I assume it only works on what I say |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
s/assume/suppose/ |
| 07:42 |
reactor |
Also, in some cases, transparent things are drawn in black. |
| 07:42 |
ShadowBot |
VanessaE: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
HAH! |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
DOS attach the bot :D |
| 07:44 |
* VanessaE |
watches the blinkenlights on the 'share and enjoy' sign |
| 07:46 |
reactor |
It's getting better, actually, if I stretch the window as though my screen was a widescreen. |
| 07:51 |
reactor |
The inventory gets messed up on low resolutions. |
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| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
oop |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
wrong button. |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
eh, just as well, I'm off to bed. |
| 07:54 |
reactor |
night |
| 07:55 |
VanessaE |
night all |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Iced Tea Day! :-D |
| 08:37 |
reactor |
? |
| 08:37 |
reactor |
Cold tea sucks. |
| 08:38 |
JamesTait |
It's better than no tea. And it's such a shame to let good tea go to waste, so I have no quarrel with iced tea. |
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khonkhortisan |
wow it takes 5 seconds to play all the noteblocks when they're connected to the same button |
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reactor |
pkglint \m/ |
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rubenwardy |
Hi guys! |
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| 09:31 |
reactor |
Afternoon. |
| 09:44 |
Exio |
reactor: try with burningsvideo |
| 09:44 |
Exio |
i had the same problem here with software |
| 09:45 |
Exio |
and stuff is too glitchy with the software renderer anyway |
| 09:45 |
reactor |
? |
| 09:45 |
reactor |
burningsvideo? |
| 09:45 |
Exio |
video_driver |
| 09:45 |
Exio |
the other software renderer |
| 09:46 |
reactor |
Wow. |
| 09:46 |
reactor |
I might have guessed! I used to be good at random poking. |
| 09:46 |
reactor |
:( |
| 09:47 |
reactor |
Thanks, man. |
| 09:47 |
Exio |
aw |
| 09:47 |
reactor |
Now to the audio crash. |
| 09:47 |
reactor |
I think I should find libogg :D |
| 09:47 |
Exio |
hehe |
| 09:48 |
Exio |
what specs does your desktop have btw? |
| 09:48 |
reactor |
Core 2 Duo @ 2000 MHz |
| 09:49 |
Exio |
kk |
| 09:49 |
reactor |
about 3072 MB RAM |
| 09:49 |
Exio |
3gb :P |
| 09:50 |
reactor |
As for the VGA, NVIDIA the hell knows the model. |
| 09:50 |
reactor |
I mean, I forget. |
| 09:50 |
Exio |
lol |
| 09:50 |
reactor |
I don't use it often, anyway. |
| 09:52 |
reactor |
To play games, I usually boot Linux from an external disk, and it bugs me a lot, for I don't have time to set up everything in two OSes. |
| 09:53 |
Exio |
i just play RE, MC (yes, kill me), cs cz and hl |
| 09:53 |
reactor |
I do play MC, too. |
| 09:53 |
Exio |
aw :P |
| 09:53 |
reactor |
I'm just upset by the fact it's in Java. |
| 09:53 |
reactor |
And it's heavy as hell, I doubt I could run it on software rasteriser. |
| 09:53 |
reactor |
And it's getting crappier with every release. |
| 09:54 |
Exio |
i'm sad about minecraft being faster than minetest |
| 09:54 |
Exio |
in the vm or with high settings |
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| 09:54 |
reactor |
in the vm |
| 09:54 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 09:54 |
reactor |
qemu? |
| 09:54 |
Exio |
http://cadoth.net/~exio4/private/wtf.gpu.png |
| 09:54 |
reactor |
wait a second, how do you forward PCI devices? |
| 09:54 |
reactor |
I thought it was unsupported. |
| 09:55 |
Exio |
i don't use qemu for windows :P |
| 09:55 |
reactor |
eh? |
| 09:55 |
Exio |
the guest is windows xp sp3 |
| 09:55 |
reactor |
or... qemu-kvm? |
| 09:55 |
reactor |
or xen? |
| 09:55 |
Exio |
graphics reactor, graphics |
| 09:55 |
reactor |
?! |
| 09:55 |
reactor |
Ah. |
| 09:56 |
Exio |
for now, vmware and vbox are the "possible" solutions for that stuff |
| 09:56 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 09:56 |
Exio |
and no, i don't have a spare gpu to plug directly to a VM |
| 09:56 |
reactor |
Well, I don't know... I'm still waiting for the PCI forwarding thing to become mature in either virtualisation technology. |
| 09:57 |
Exio |
you can do that with qemu now, iirc |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
Because that would allow me to stay comfortable while also running games. |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
Good. |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
Or... qemu-kvm? |
| 09:57 |
reactor |
The problem is, I don't have hardware virtualisation support here. |
| 09:58 |
Exio |
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM3NTk |
| 09:59 |
reactor |
Good. |
| 09:59 |
Exio |
sorry, have to go |
| 09:59 |
Exio |
later :P |
| 09:59 |
reactor |
See you. |
| 10:07 |
StarBlessed |
Hey guys (and girls), how do we feel about this latest information about security breaches by the FBI and CIA into Google Plus and Facebook? I'm looking for opinions. |
| 10:08 |
reactor |
"Pwneth!" |
| 10:10 |
reactor |
Yes, I'm honest. People shouldn't put so much personal information on the web for the first place. |
| 10:10 |
reactor |
s/for/in/ |
| 10:10 |
ShadowBot |
What reactor meant to say was: Yes, I'm honest. People shouldn't put so much personal ininmation on the web for the first place. |
| 10:11 |
reactor |
ShadowBot the ed(1). |
| 10:11 |
reactor |
:) |
| 10:11 |
reactor |
Some time ago, I've had an idea for an irssi plugin. |
| 10:11 |
reactor |
That edits the buffer according to people's regexes. |
| 10:12 |
reactor |
So that edits don't appear as separate messages. |
| 10:12 |
reactor |
But eh. I don't know perl. |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
StarBlessed: cool story® |
| 10:13 |
reactor |
How about social networks were developed by FBI and CIA? Eh! |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
no |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
people do not spy on people if they can't make money out of it |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
people need to stop being so scared of FBI/CIA/NSA |
| 10:14 |
reactor |
Why not, that would explain everything. |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
are you a criminal, reactor? |
| 10:14 |
reactor |
No. |
| 10:14 |
reactor |
But they want to outlaw data sharing. |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
why are you scared of government spying then? |
| 10:14 |
reactor |
^ |
| 10:14 |
reactor |
Besides, I live in Russia. |
| 10:15 |
reactor |
It's normal to be scared of government spying on you here. |
| 10:15 |
Calinou |
are you a pussy riot then? |
| 10:16 |
reactor |
No. |
| 10:16 |
reactor |
I run a torrent daemon most of the uptime. |
| 10:16 |
reactor |
That's why. |
| 10:17 |
Calinou |
torrenting is legal |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
It is. |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
But these dumbasses... |
| 10:17 |
Calinou |
as of today noone has been sued for torrenting. |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
Do you really think anyone will listen to your technical gibberish when they seize your machines? |
| 10:17 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 10:17 |
Calinou |
why would they do that in the first place? |
| 10:18 |
reactor |
I don't know. Eh. |
| 10:18 |
reactor |
Don't worry, I've got my paranoia under control here. |
| 10:22 |
StarBlessed |
The only reason I ask, is because Im contemplating leaving (or at least lessening) my presence on the major social networks, and redirecting to the more secure and distributed networks. |
| 10:23 |
Calinou |
like NoOneGoesToSpora? |
| 10:23 |
* Calinou |
rolleyes |
| 10:24 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
| 10:24 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
tip: facebook is a waste of time |
| 10:24 |
reactor |
True that. |
| 10:24 |
StarBlessed |
Interesting enough, Im on Diaspora. There are actually more people than you might think. A fair amount of my friends are there. |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
good for you |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
but it does not work for everyone |
| 10:24 |
reactor |
Why not roll yer own site instead? |
| 10:24 |
StarBlessed |
No, it doesnt. I agree. |
| 10:25 |
reactor |
You have a machine to run overnight, don't you? |
| 10:25 |
StarBlessed |
reactor: I was thinking about it. I have the server and bandwidth, why not use it. |
| 10:25 |
Calinou |
I don't, I'm not wasting electricity |
| 10:25 |
Calinou |
this is why "experienced" people use centralized services |
| 10:25 |
reactor |
Oh. I've found a good thing. Electricity is not very expensive here in Russia. |
| 10:25 |
Calinou |
and I don't even talk about people who don't know what is a web server |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
reactor: ~13 cents per 1000 watts here |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
watt-hours, you mean? |
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| 10:26 |
Calinou |
yea |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
oh |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
"watt-hours" is stupid |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
no |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
nonono |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
it is just like "watts" |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
W is the unit of POWER |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
not ENERGY |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
eh |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
N*t=W |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
whatever |
| 10:26 |
reactor |
where N is power, t - time, W - energy |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
nevermind |
| 10:27 |
reactor |
Physics, man! |
| 10:27 |
* StarBlessed |
grins |
| 10:27 |
reactor |
Hell. I don't know what they teach at school nowadays. |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
physics? I wrote "big rigs". |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
have to go now |
| 10:27 |
StarBlessed |
LMAO! |
| 10:27 |
rubenwardy |
Watt is the unit of power? |
| 10:28 |
reactor |
Isn't it? |
| 10:28 |
reactor |
Ampere*Volt = Watt |
| 10:29 |
StarBlessed |
Watt / Volt = Amp & Watt / Amp = Volt |
| 10:29 |
reactor |
rather, (Ampere + i*Ampere) * (Volt + i*Volt) = Watt + i*VAr = VA |
| 10:29 |
StarBlessed |
lol |
| 10:29 |
reactor |
(in AC) |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
mm. |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
Burningsvideo. |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
Where do I change its settings? |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
It seems to use some weird filter on all the textures. |
| 10:32 |
reactor |
And they look blurry. |
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| 10:33 |
StarBlessed |
Is it an app? |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
Burningsvideo? |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
Nein, it's a driver. |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
A software rasteriser, but another one. |
| 10:34 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, for windows I take it? |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
Works better now, but eh. The textures look weird. |
| 10:34 |
reactor |
BSD. |
| 10:34 |
StarBlessed |
Ive never seen the name on Linux |
| 10:34 |
StarBlessed |
Oh, really? |
| 10:34 |
StarBlessed |
Nice |
| 10:35 |
reactor |
You know, BSD and Windows have something in common. |
| 10:35 |
reactor |
And that something is TCP. |
| 10:35 |
reactor |
Namely, M$ had ripped TCP utilities from BSD back then. |
| 10:36 |
StarBlessed |
LMAO! Ok, ok. |
| 10:36 |
reactor |
... as always the case is BSD's permissive-submissive license :( |
| 10:36 |
reactor |
I like the viral nature of GPL better myself. |
| 10:37 |
reactor |
*shrugs* |
| 10:37 |
reactor |
</rant> :) |
| 10:38 |
* StarBlessed |
smiles. |
| 10:38 |
StarBlessed |
I understand |
| 10:42 |
reactor |
I think... some components are better licensed virally, and some are not. |
| 10:43 |
reactor |
For example, it's better to keep crucial, peculiar parts from being closed-sourced by commercialists. |
| 10:43 |
reactor |
But the general principle of function... why not? |
| 10:43 |
Exio |
reactor: that is why i think the GPL is "better" ;P |
| 10:44 |
reactor |
Well, what I'm trying ot say, we need some license that would enforce itself, like GPL, for a determined set of components. |
| 10:44 |
reactor |
...while not doing so for the rest. |
| 10:44 |
reactor |
Or vice versa. |
| 10:44 |
Exio |
yes, but i mean for special things what aren't oneliners or are very important or "core" |
| 10:45 |
reactor |
Yep. |
| 10:45 |
reactor |
That combined license would keep commercialists interested in developing the thing and contributing to it. |
| 10:46 |
reactor |
The developers would then be able to trade permissions to close-source something for contributions or money. |
| 10:47 |
Exio |
well, yes, having that would be very "nice" for the projects, as they would be able to get money from the code, or even better, more code! |
| 10:48 |
Exio |
i think the BSD license is way too permissive, but the GPL is too "strict" |
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| 10:48 |
reactor |
Yes. |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
As for now, the best solution would be using the two licenses together, GPL - for a determined set of things, and BSD - for the rest. |
| 10:51 |
Exio |
i still find sad the fact of a VM running faster than my netbook :P |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
? |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
Exio: by the way. |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
How do I change Burning's video settings? |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
It seems to have presets or something. |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
the current is "beautiful" |
| 10:52 |
Exio |
video_driver = burningsvideo |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
and it seems too much |
| 10:53 |
reactor |
Because it gives maximum 10 fps. |
| 10:53 |
Exio |
iirc there is some patch for that around |
| 10:53 |
Exio |
even if it only affects the software "driver" |
| 10:53 |
Exio |
what probably, nobody uses :P |
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arsdragonfly |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 |
| 10:56 |
ShadowBot |
arsdragonfly: arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (477ms) |
| 10:57 |
rubenwardy |
!down |
| 10:58 |
reactor |
!sideways |
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rubenwardy |
lol k0k0k0.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/100-things-every-game-student-should-know.pdf |
| 11:05 |
Calinou |
1) add hats |
| 11:05 |
Calinou |
2) add rubenwardy as a NPC |
| 11:05 |
Calinou |
3) add PilzAdam as a pony NPC |
| 11:06 |
proller |
add Calinou as disaster NPC |
| 11:07 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:07 |
reactor |
eHll oveeroyen |
| 11:07 |
reactor |
! |
| 11:07 |
Calinou |
hi |
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rubenwardy |
PilzAdam would be a rainbow brony |
| 11:07 |
Calinou |
no, that's you |
| 11:08 |
PilzAdam |
Lua is magic <3 |
| 11:09 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, page 7 |
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PilzAdam |
I say mobs |
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PilzAdam |
and Im a dev |
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PilzAdam |
-> Im Notch |
| 11:09 |
reactor |
Whoever desiced to write games in Java is brain damaged. |
| 11:09 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 11:10 |
reactor |
s/sic/cid/ |
| 11:10 |
ShadowBot |
What reactor meant to say was: Whoever decided to write games in Java is brain damaged. |
| 11:10 |
reactor |
Or... must have been abused in their childhood. |
| 11:10 |
PilzAdam |
where is MintestBot? |
| 11:10 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5? |
| 11:11 |
reactor |
PilzAdam: someone made it issue a command. |
| 11:11 |
reactor |
I think. |
| 11:11 |
reactor |
!rev error |
| 11:11 |
rubenwardy |
page 59 |
| 11:13 |
reactor |
You mean, rage 69? |
| 11:16 |
reactor |
Hmm. Curl support. |
| 11:16 |
reactor |
Is it like, for fetching additional textures? |
| 11:18 |
rubenwardy |
> Getting server listings |
| 11:18 |
Calinou |
yes, curl is used to download media |
| 11:18 |
Calinou |
and getting server list too |
| 11:18 |
rubenwardy |
> Faster loading times downloadeng media to client |
| 11:18 |
rubenwardy |
(instead of using TCP/UDP) |
| 11:18 |
Calinou |
<reactor> Whoever desiced to write games in Java is brain damaged. |
| 11:19 |
Calinou |
java is a decent language which is cleaner than C++, and easier to use. |
| 11:19 |
Calinou |
on top of that it works on any OS |
| 11:19 |
rubenwardy |
Unless you are writing for internet |
| 11:19 |
Calinou |
it is 10 to 20% slower than C++, not a big deal |
| 11:23 |
reactor |
20% |
| 11:23 |
reactor |
or one fifth |
| 11:23 |
reactor |
that's much |
| 11:23 |
reactor |
and the more powerful machine is, the more electricity you're wasting on it |
| 11:25 |
reactor |
imagine you have five CPU's, and one is just heating up the room |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
who cares? you're going to waste like 15 watts for same performance |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
thinking you'll have 100% load 24/7 is just stupid, to |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
too* |
| 11:28 |
reactor |
Beside, that's how software bloat happens. |
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reactor |
Hmm. |
| 11:37 |
reactor |
"Audio: Vorbis extension NOT present", despite havig both libvorbis and liboss |
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Calinou |
software bloat is irrelevant since PCs get more powerful every year. |
| 11:40 |
reactor |
Oh yeah yeah. |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
not to mention you're always allowed to optimize your software |
| 11:40 |
reactor |
Cool story. |
| 11:40 |
reactor |
More processing power is wasted. |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
and? |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
tip: BSD is slower than linux |
| 11:40 |
reactor |
And all the advace in CPU power is negated. |
| 11:40 |
Calinou |
computer time is cheap; your time is not |
| 11:41 |
Calinou |
reactor: 5 years ago, it was not possible to compile minetest in 1 minute with a 150 euro CPU |
| 11:41 |
Calinou |
today it is |
| 11:41 |
reactor |
The kernel is slower? So what, most Linuxdistros are bloated as hell with unnecessary packages. |
| 11:41 |
reactor |
s/xd/x d/ |
| 11:42 |
ShadowBot |
What reactor meant to say was: The kernel is slower? So what, most Linux distros are bloated as hell with unnecessary packages. |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
tip: amount of packages does not mean speed, nor RAM usage does |
| 11:42 |
reactor |
Besides, where are the test results showing that? |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
and you're always allowed to remove packages |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
reactor: phoronix |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM4NzQ |
| 11:42 |
reactor |
Well, if these packages _run_, they do consume time. |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
linux won in all tests :P |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
For example, all these fancy desktop candybutton interfaces. |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
Oh, especially transparency and animations. Don't make me puke, no one needs that crap. |
| 11:43 |
Calinou |
noone forces you to use unity or gnome 3 |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
True, but hey. |
| 11:44 |
Calinou |
"no one"? a mild amount of effects are always nice, and most WMs let you turn them off |
| 11:44 |
Calinou |
xfwm just has shadows and terminal transparency, that's all |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
Why waste time on stripping a Linux distro down to base if I can just install a barebone system that BSD offers? |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
It's a matter of preference, anyway. |
| 11:44 |
Calinou |
it often takes less time to take a distro like xubuntu and remove packages than "build" your own system |
| 11:44 |
Calinou |
if not always |
| 11:44 |
Calinou |
not to mention it is easier |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
Also, if we speak of kernels. Linux tends to crash more often. Good luck running it overnight. |
| 11:45 |
reactor |
Xubuntu does use network-manager. Eh. |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
and? network manager is the most complete and easiest to use network ademon |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
daemon* |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
It's crap. |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
also, linux never crashes for me |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
the NM applet uses 0.2% of my RAM (8GB) |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
It's unreliable and complicated. |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
please don't call it "bloat" |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
^ |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
exactly |
| 11:46 |
Calinou |
it has never failed on me |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
both wifi and ethernet |
| 11:47 |
reactor |
Why not use 0 bytes of RAM and 0 CPU cycles, having configured the network manually? |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
it's not 2009 anymore :P |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
reactor: noone wants to do that |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
it's 2013 |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
CPU cycles? it uses 0% of my CPU right now |
| 11:47 |
reactor |
That doesn't mean we should make computers usable by monkeys. |
| 11:47 |
reactor |
Or if we should, we should leave humans the possibilty to use them. |
| 11:47 |
reactor |
s/possibility/opportunity/ |
| 11:48 |
Calinou |
I'm not a monkey, but I don't want to have to configure my network manually |
| 11:48 |
reactor |
Which we're going to lose soon, if this goes on. |
| 11:48 |
Calinou |
you lost it already: windows has a majority market share since it is the default OS |
| 11:48 |
reactor |
The most successful does not imply the best. |
| 11:48 |
reactor |
Marketing, mate. |
| 11:48 |
ShadowBot |
reactor: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. |
| 11:49 |
reactor |
And don't forget, 95% of people are retarded. Re-tar-ded. |
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reactor |
And Windows is targeted to the retarded. |
| 11:49 |
reactor |
ShadowBot: oh yeah. |
| 11:50 |
reactor |
.-7s/possibilty/opportunity/ |
| 11:50 |
Calinou |
I know, but still |
| 11:50 |
Calinou |
there are no actual benefits to configuring your network manually |
| 11:50 |
Calinou |
a computer is meant to be used |
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reactor |
Oh, come on, man! If you run the machine 90% of the time, and unattended most of the uptime, milliwatts matter. |
| 11:52 |
reactor |
It would draw, say, 500 mW more. Three hundred days a year. |
| 11:52 |
reactor |
That would probably cost you a dinner. |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
they do not |
| 11:52 |
reactor |
An extra dinner... why not? |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
1 watt used for a year (8760 hours) will cost you about 1.2€ in france |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
1.2€ is 1/3 of a SATA cable |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
sure |
| 11:52 |
reactor |
Which is... hmm. |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
it's nothing |
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Calinou |
also, again, do not keep your PC on 24/7 unless you need it |
| 11:53 |
reactor |
Pff. I pay for me Internet. |
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sfan5 |
hi |
| 11:54 |
Calinou |
hi sfan5 |
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| 11:55 |
reactor |
1.2 Euros. |
| 11:55 |
reactor |
That's... about 60 rubles. I could buy some tea and cookies. |
| 11:55 |
reactor |
Rather than just waste it. |
| 11:56 |
Calinou |
you surely need these teas and cookies to survive |
| 11:56 |
reactor |
No, but eh. |
| 11:56 |
Calinou |
not to mention, if you run your PC 8 hours a day, you will only save 40 cents |
| 11:56 |
reactor |
Why not, it's better than heating up the room. |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
reactor: heating up the room saves heating costs |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 11:57 |
reactor |
In winter, yes. |
| 11:57 |
reactor |
That's... good, actually. |
| 11:57 |
reactor |
But not on summer. |
| 11:58 |
reactor |
*facepalm* Thermodynamics, man! |
| 11:59 |
reactor |
Well, if it had a hose going outside of the room attached to irs exhausts, why not. |
| 11:59 |
reactor |
So the room would suck in fresh air. |
| 11:59 |
reactor |
But you would need an extra fan. |
| 11:59 |
reactor |
s/irs/its |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
most cases have at least two fans, reactor |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
and higher end ones have 3 fans |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
if not 4 :P |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
and I'm not counting CPU/GPU/PSU fans |
| 12:01 |
reactor |
...and? |
| 12:01 |
reactor |
You need to expell heat outside. |
| 12:01 |
reactor |
If you don't, how ever hard you run the air around the room, nothing actually happens. |
| 12:02 |
reactor |
So, that heat swapper should be connected to a radiator outside. |
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reactor |
No, john_minetest, it doesn't work this way. |
| 12:03 |
reactor |
Too little difference in pressure. |
| 12:04 |
reactor |
If you want a fridge-like system, you should make a closed system and fill it with a suitable gas, say, some CnF(2*n+2), don't remember the name |
| 12:04 |
reactor |
and you're gonna need a fridge-type compressor |
| 12:05 |
reactor |
and that's not heat swapper |
| 12:05 |
reactor |
heat swapper would be, say, you have a water cooling system |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
in which water goes from the CPU and to the thing |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
and back |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
that "thing" is the heat swapper |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
oh yeah yeah |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
Oil. That would suck. |
| 12:06 |
reactor |
I would be... an oil-cooled reactor. |
| 12:07 |
reactor |
For the record. I am not a reactor. |
| 12:07 |
reactor |
Ha. |
| 12:08 |
reactor |
No, I would like that to be tested on test subjects first. |
| 12:10 |
reactor |
Excess Flood. |
| 12:10 |
reactor |
You see, he is probably trying your idea, john_minetest. |
| 12:12 |
reactor |
Ooh yeah yeah. The problem is, we could probably end up being test subjects in our own experiment. |
| 12:12 |
reactor |
No way. |
| 12:12 |
rubenwardy |
PotatOS |
| 12:13 |
reactor |
Potato battery. |
| 12:13 |
reactor |
There are a kind of cameras, called potato camera. |
| 12:13 |
reactor |
I wonder about the etymology. |
| 12:15 |
reactor |
They don't exist anymore. Eh. |
| 12:16 |
reactor |
Or, if you can revert the nuclear explosion, or time in whole, okay. |
| 12:16 |
reactor |
Yeah. |
| 12:16 |
reactor |
That. |
| 12:18 |
reactor |
That would be cool. |
| 12:18 |
reactor |
..except for when they bite you |
| 12:19 |
reactor |
... and they will, eventually. |
| 12:19 |
reactor |
Good luck not becoming her test subject, too. |
| 12:20 |
reactor |
Oh, bullies for you! |
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PilzAdam |
Black Mese? |
| 12:22 |
PilzAdam |
-> TODO list |
| 12:24 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 12:24 |
reactor |
-DENABLE_SOUND=0 has no effect |
| 12:24 |
reactor |
the game still wants to access /dev/sound |
| 12:25 |
reactor |
-_- |
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| 12:45 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
| 12:45 |
reactor |
Mod dir: games/minetest/mods? |
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arsdragonfly |
!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 |
| 12:58 |
ShadowBot |
arsdragonfly: arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (449ms) |
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harrison |
Tearing eyeholes in a placenta doesn't make it into a marsupial mask. |
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reactor |
Tearing bunghole doesn't yield you a goatse. |
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sfan5 |
WTF?! |
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reactor |
Hmm. |
| 13:11 |
sfan5 |
my vps was down, and the env_meta.txt file contains "25d:Win.Trojan.Swizzor-1191\n135168:bfbb23dc899acd53" |
| 13:11 |
reactor |
Anyone using WOrldEdit? |
| 13:11 |
reactor |
s/WO/Wo/ |
| 13:11 |
* sfan5 |
|
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AntonBoch1244 |
no |
| 13:12 |
reactor |
sfan5: I've put the latest one in games/minetest/mods, no luck |
| 13:12 |
sfan5 |
reactor: try mods/ |
| 13:12 |
reactor |
mkay |
| 13:13 |
reactor |
oh yeah |
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AntonBoch1244 |
mods folders is ./mods , ./world/mods , ./games/mods? |
| 13:13 |
reactor |
thank you |
| 13:13 |
AntonBoch1244 |
need additional information |
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PilzAdam |
AntonBoch1244, * world/<worldname>/worldmods/ |
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sfan5 |
AntonBoch1244: mods/ and <world directory>/worldmods are intended for mods |
| 13:13 |
reactor |
games/minetest/mods didn't work, mods/ did |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: *worlds |
| 13:14 |
sfan5 |
reactor: mods are not supposed to be in games/.../mods |
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AntonBoch1244 |
ok! Thx |
| 13:14 |
reactor |
yeah, I see |
| 13:14 |
reactor |
now |
| 13:14 |
reactor |
That's confusing. |
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reactor |
uhh |
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reactor |
hmm |
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AntonBoch1244 |
My Hard Drive is not working :( |
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sfan5 |
wtf?! |
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sfan5 |
70% of the player files are filles with something that looks like a virus database |
| 13:24 |
sapier |
where do I find documentation about json moddb api? |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
is there already and API for the moddb? |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
-d |
| 13:25 |
sapier |
I thought so |
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rubenwardy |
I dont think so |
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PilzAdam |
is there already a moddb? |
| 13:26 |
rubenwardy |
It is still on their issue list |
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rubenwardy |
sapier: pm |
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reactor |
So eh. |
| 13:55 |
reactor |
Is there a way to disable texture smoothing in burningsvideo? |
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rubenwardy |
Why are you even using it? |
| 14:13 |
rubenwardy |
also, you should probably ask in #irrlicht |
| 14:15 |
reactor |
Mkay. |
| 14:15 |
reactor |
rubenwardy: the default software renderer fails hard here |
| 14:15 |
rubenwardy |
you should use OpenGL or DirectC |
| 14:15 |
rubenwardy |
*X |
| 14:15 |
rubenwardy |
Why are you even a software renderer |
| 14:15 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 14:15 |
reactor |
BSD. |
| 14:15 |
reactor |
No VGA driver. |
| 14:16 |
rubenwardy |
Download it |
| 14:16 |
rubenwardy |
install it |
| 14:16 |
reactor |
It doesn't exist. |
| 14:16 |
rubenwardy |
get a _BETTER_ linux os |
| 14:18 |
reactor |
It's a matter of preference. |
| 14:19 |
rubenwardy |
ok then |
| 14:19 |
rubenwardy |
do not play 3d games |
| 14:20 |
reactor |
Man, your face is big and green to me. |
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rubenwardy |
Ahhh! Ogre3d! |
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Calinou_ |
mmmph |
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rubenwardy |
portals in irrlicht: irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16037 |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
similar to portal the game |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
cool |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
By the way, I'm getting 20 fps here, rubenwardy. |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 14:40 |
rubenwardy |
screenshot? |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
So eh, I don't think cpu render is a problem on modern machines. |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
Let me find it... |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fjot9v&s=5 |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
That's an early attempt. |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
Now it's a lot better. |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
I'll shoot more when I'm done. |
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reactor |
Better in quality, not speed, though. |
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rubenwardy |
another portal: tk.files.storage.msn.com/x1pnp_rgmi5o52OyFpCCVa62-VpuxY_S_xTE6B7gUSIR9xWG1UqQMXRW-K4_Ifkc60iTnBCbA8-a2mmY7_p3R1dxuP5K_6YZDKQHtLBtuywIYrF2StemCkb4h4riajbKlIXFGRX7SaJ9vk |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
People are dreaming of teleportation. |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
There must be a way eh. |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
But how. |
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arsdragonfly |
it seems that curl never worked for me |
| 14:57 |
reactor |
But we first need boost from biotechnology, so that people's brains grow bigger and they understand quantum mechanics. |
| 14:58 |
reactor |
arsdragonfly: did you define its source dir? |
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arsdragonfly |
reactor :how? |
| 14:58 |
reactor |
cmake . -LH will show you the list of vars |
| 14:58 |
reactor |
change them with -D |
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reactor |
cmake . -DVARIABLE=BLABLABLA |
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rubenwardy |
hmmm |
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rubenwardy |
no |
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rubenwardy |
well, |
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rubenwardy |
I am currently fiddling with lighting and shaders |
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Calinou_ |
<reactor> So eh, I don't think cpu render is a problem on modern machines. |
| 15:05 |
Calinou_ |
LOL WAT |
| 15:05 |
Calinou_ |
CPUs aren't made at all for graphics |
| 15:05 |
Calinou_ |
GPUs have a lot of cores for a reason |
| 15:06 |
reactor |
Man. |
| 15:06 |
reactor |
If there _was_ a _supported graphics card, I would go for it, Calinou_. |
| 15:07 |
reactor |
s/supported/supported_/ |
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arsdragonfly |
reactor :There's no option to define cURL's source directory: -( |
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reactor |
arsdragonfly: -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DCURL_INCLUDE_DIR=${PREFIX}/include/curl |
| 15:08 |
reactor |
You're welcome. |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 15:10 |
reactor |
don't forget to edit these |
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arsdragonfly |
reactor : i thought it was for the compiled library |
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kahrl |
ugh, why does gcc complain about an unused fwrite return value when I call ferror immediately afterwards |
| 15:10 |
kahrl |
stupid |
| 15:10 |
reactor |
arsdragonfly: oh... |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
where do I put mods for dedicated server? |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
same as for the game, in gamedir/mods? |
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| 15:13 |
KikaRz |
hello |
| 15:13 |
KikaRz |
well... let's suppose that someone commited ... |
| 15:13 |
KikaRz |
How I update my game? |
| 15:13 |
KikaRz |
git pull and? |
| 15:16 |
FreeFull |
git pull; make clean; make |
| 15:16 |
FreeFull |
Should work |
| 15:16 |
FreeFull |
If the cmake stuff got updated too though you'll have to that stuff too |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz |
and If I have 2 cores? |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz |
dual-core ? |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz |
its -j what? |
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KikaRz |
Frefull? |
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KikaRz |
*FreeFull? |
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arsdragonfly |
KikaRz : -jn to have n jobs |
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KikaRz |
jobs? |
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arsdragonfly |
-j for infinite jobs |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
??? |
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KikaRz |
jobs? |
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PilzAdam |
threads |
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arsdragonfly |
Or you can type make --help |
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KikaRz |
j4 for? |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
4 things a way? |
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KikaRz |
ah |
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arsdragonfly |
Prabably |
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KikaRz |
it does 4 things at same time? |
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PilzAdam |
make it -j<#cores*2-1> |
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KikaRz |
Oh... cool |
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KikaRz |
2*2 4 - 1 = 3 |
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KikaRz |
ok |
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arsdragonfly |
*o |
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KikaRz |
i've set up 4 threads '-' |
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* PilzAdam |
compiles with -j16 |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
how many cores ? '-' |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 15:24 |
PilzAdam |
8 virtual, 4 physical |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
oh... |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
cool |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
I must try to compile at 8 threads |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 15:25 |
PilzAdam |
I just have to watch out that my RAM doesnt overflow |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz |
How we see the ram? |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz |
Monitor System? |
| 15:25 |
sapier |
8 cores but not enough ram ;-P |
| 15:25 |
Calinou_ |
reactor: use an OS that supports graphic cards then |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
I have 1,7 GB Ram |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
ok, taking at maximum 644 MB / 1,2 GiB? |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
I have 1,75 GB Ram |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
not 1,2 |
| 15:26 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 15:27 |
KikaRz |
what's ccplus? |
| 15:27 |
KikaRz |
*cc1plus ? |
| 15:27 |
PilzAdam |
sapier, yes, only 4 GiB :-( |
| 15:27 |
arsdragonfly |
!g cc1plus |
| 15:27 |
MinetestBot |
arsdragonfly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345201 |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
cc1plus = make? |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
trololololol |
| 15:29 |
* arsdragonfly |
is compiling minetestserver 0.4.7 on his phone and doesn't dare to open the web browser |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
my school thinks zipballs arent cool |
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KikaRz |
arsdragonfly, rly? |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
i just made a zipball format that has the extension .za |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
ka.za! |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 15:29 |
sfan5 |
kae.za |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
they can go fuck themselves |
| 15:29 |
reactor |
? |
| 15:29 |
arsdragonfly |
I have only 279mb of RAM on my phone |
| 15:29 |
reactor |
Calinou_: ?! |
| 15:29 |
KikaRz |
yea sfan5 |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
kae.za! |
| 15:30 |
reactor |
Calinou_: what? |
| 15:30 |
reactor |
Calinou_: I haven't said a word. |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
c<reactor> If there _was_ a _supported graphics card, I would go for it, Calinou_. |
| 15:30 |
reactor |
Calinou_: again, it's only sporting to get it working here. |
| 15:30 |
reactor |
I like challenges. |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
Calinou_, add one-line update Minetest |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
cd to minetest directory |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
"git pull" |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
done |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
nope |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
oh you have to recompile too |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
yes |
| 15:30 |
KikaRz |
so... it's: |
| 15:30 |
Calinou_ |
but for minetest_game you don't |
| 15:31 |
arsdragonfly |
Holy shit |
| 15:31 |
KikaRz |
cd minetest ; git pull ; make clear ; make -j<threads> |
| 15:31 |
arsdragonfly |
It killed the terminal emulator for me :-X |
| 15:31 |
KikaRz |
are needed spaces? |
| 15:31 |
PilzAdam |
you usually dont need to "make clean" |
| 15:31 |
KikaRz |
well, you said I do. |
| 15:31 |
PilzAdam |
usually == I have never used it |
| 15:32 |
Calinou_ |
same |
| 15:32 |
sapier |
PilzAdam 4GB? yes very small at least if you try to use vms too |
| 15:32 |
KikaRz |
offtopic - who does Gangnam style's karaoke 100% correct? |
| 15:32 |
KikaRz |
offtopic - I don't. |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
XFCE crashed -_- |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
hey KikaRz |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
Hi. |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
My stupid XFCE is just lagging |
| 15:42 |
KikaRz |
bar stills gone... that makes me confused. |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/A93CUbn.png |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
Hi sweetie :) |
| 15:45 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 15:45 |
reactor |
VanessaE: hey |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
Stupid The Scale of the Universe 2 |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
VanessaE: it works with Burning's video. |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
I'm still experiencing problems with audio. |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
Evne with libogg and libvorbis. |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
s/ne/en/ |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
no idea there |
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reactor |
mkay |
| 15:47 |
MarkTwain |
hello |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE |
I'm no good at figuring out system problems anymore |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
Who can contact this guys, and add there MINETEST? http://htwins.net/ |
| 15:47 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, that comes from old age ;) |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
you seen my pictures. I ain't old. :P |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
(though some days I sure FEEL old :-/ ) |
| 15:49 |
MarkTwain |
I need someones advice |
| 15:49 |
MarkTwain |
I plan to add mesecons to my server but remove all craftin because it lags |
| 15:50 |
MarkTwain |
Would this be a waste? |
| 15:50 |
MarkTwain |
If people Cannot access it |
| 15:51 |
Calinou_ |
MarkTwain: "be a waste"? explain |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
mesecons is fine, it's the client that's the issu |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
issue* |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
horrible performance regressions lately in client rendering |
| 15:51 |
MarkTwain |
If people cannot craft items from it then it would be a waste of media to load |
| 15:52 |
KikaRz |
MarkTwain, just if the server is creative |
| 15:52 |
MarkTwain |
Its a survival server |
| 15:52 |
MarkTwain |
I wouldnt ask if it was creative |
| 15:53 |
reactor |
4destructive |
| 15:53 |
reactor |
s/4// |
| 15:53 |
MarkTwain |
I like to think of it as an admin feature like the command blocks and logic |
| 15:53 |
MarkTwain |
But the thing is: |
| 15:53 |
MarkTwain |
mesecons is not for admins |
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| 15:53 |
MarkTwain |
It needs to be remade to be for admins |
| 15:53 |
MarkTwain |
I am thinking of a GUI for the luacontroller that has: add statement, add event and all that |
| 15:54 |
MarkTwain |
And basically similar to mesecons but faster |
| 15:55 |
MarkTwain |
I think digiline would be a better alternative but the luacontroller is the part that manages digiline and if i add the luacontroller i am likely to add things that can affect the environment as a result of a digiline signal like lights |
| 15:55 |
Calinou_ |
<VanessaE> horrible performance regressions lately in client rendering |
| 15:55 |
Calinou_ |
which ones? |
| 15:55 |
reactor |
MarkTwain: how's Tam Sawyer? |
| 15:55 |
Calinou_ |
haven't noticed any |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
Calinou_: I used to get 25-30 fps at view distance of 170 and 512px. Now I'm lucky to get 25 with a view range of 70 and 256px textures. |
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| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
even with default textures I get low rendering speeds. |
| 15:57 |
Calinou_ |
default textures with aniso + filtering + 4× antialiasing = 130 FPS |
| 15:57 |
Calinou_ |
view range 128 |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
Something arounf the spawn on my server is killing my framerates |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
around* |
| 15:58 |
Calinou_ |
too much leaves probably |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
hardly any trees at all at the spawn |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I guess the trees are the cause |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ^^^^ |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
turn fancy leaves off |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
read: there are no trees at the spawn. |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
and if I get into a dense grove of trees *away* from the spawn, my framerates are fine. |
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| 16:01 |
VanessaE |
the problem is the engine is not culling out all the excess faces/verticies |
| 16:01 |
reactor |
it does |
| 16:01 |
reactor |
as can be seen from my screenshot :D |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
Minecraft on the xBox360 even lags |
| 16:02 |
Calinou_ |
Jordach: uh uh |
| 16:02 |
Calinou_ |
console games lagging |
| 16:02 |
Calinou_ |
impossibru |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
Calinou_, yes |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
snowy biomes with LOADS of trees |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
even if I look at the ground with exactly TWO types of blocks visible, it's drawing 273,000 vertices. |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
and with splitscreen |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
it should be more like several dozen |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
it halves the FPS |
| 16:02 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, press F4 and change your position |
| 16:02 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I guess any not solid nodes are the reason |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
Calinou_, also:the leaves that are behind the transparent leaves are rendered solid |
| 16:03 |
Calinou_ |
O_o |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: then explain this: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006102013%20-%2012:03:47%20PM.png |
| 16:04 |
VanessaE |
that's after looking away from the spawn and letting it sit several seconds |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
it's drawing shit that isn't even on the fucking screen |
| 16:05 |
Calinou_ |
the world isn't loading for me |
| 16:05 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, press F4, fly away a bit and look what blocks are rendered |
| 16:05 |
i |
maybe it's because of mob objects |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: that IS with F4/no camera updates as you already said |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
and I looked already |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
Calinou_: you're in now. |
| 16:07 |
Calinou_ |
the spawn does have trees |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
Calinou_: yeah, out past the spawn, outside of my default 70-node view range |
| 16:07 |
Calinou_ |
if I look at the spawn I get 27 FPS |
| 16:07 |
Calinou_ |
view distance 128 |
| 16:07 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 16:07 |
MarkTwain |
I get 25 View Distance 35 |
| 16:08 |
Calinou_ |
oh, with freetype fonts the profiler is broken |
| 16:08 |
Calinou_ |
MarkTwain: by default it is automatically chosen |
| 16:08 |
Calinou_ |
and you have a shitty PC :P |
| 16:08 |
Calinou_ |
because 35 is the minimum |
| 16:08 |
i |
I get 3 FPS with 125 range |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
Calinou_: the auto-ranger is broken. |
| 16:08 |
KikaRz |
I I follow I follow you... I follow you, deep sea baby... I follow you |
| 16:08 |
MarkTwain |
MIN=15 MAX=10 |
| 16:08 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't adapt anywhere nearly fast enough for normal gameplay |
| 16:08 |
MarkTwain |
Or something |
| 16:08 |
MarkTwain |
viewing_range_nodes_max = 15 viewing_range_nodes_min = 20 |
| 16:08 |
Calinou_ |
dat name; i |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
it adapts at like 0.1 nodes/sec or slightly faster, when it should be adapting at a rate of at least 10-20 nodes/sec. |
| 16:09 |
Calinou_ |
you must be highlighted often :P |
| 16:09 |
Calinou_ |
MinetestBot: if min is higher than max, the min value is used |
| 16:09 |
Calinou_ |
KikaRz: twss |
| 16:09 |
KikaRz |
twss = ? |
| 16:10 |
Calinou_ |
that's what she said |
| 16:10 |
i |
I get 3FPS with 35 range, too |
| 16:10 |
KikaRz |
Lykke Li - I follow rivers |
| 16:10 |
i |
I guess the pipes cause the lag |
| 16:11 |
Calinou_ |
the pipes? |
| 16:11 |
i |
there are lots of nodeboxes under the spawn |
| 16:11 |
Calinou_ |
also, lag isn't slow performance |
| 16:11 |
Calinou_ |
+1 |
| 16:11 |
Calinou_ |
IMO pipes should only use 2 to 4 nodeboxes :| |
| 16:11 |
i |
VaE built pipes under the streets last time |
| 16:11 |
KikaRz |
Minetest works with GLC? |
| 16:12 |
i |
I don't get lag away from streets |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: and for the record, I have a shit-hot-fast video card that should able to more than keep up with anyone here. Even with default 16px textures, I'm getting under 30 fps at the spawn. |
| 16:12 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, dont use so many nodeboxes and transparent nodes |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: explain THIS: |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006102013%20-%2012:12:02%20PM.png |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
that's RIGHT after sign in, after just standing there long enough to let the full range (60) load up. |
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| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
there's NO WAY my HD6870 video card should be turning out such shitty performance. |
| 16:13 |
Calinou_ |
KikaRz: GLC? |
| 16:13 |
KikaRz |
Yes. |
| 16:13 |
Calinou_ |
VanessaE: you have a 6770, no? |
| 16:13 |
KikaRz |
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/glc.html |
| 16:13 |
Calinou_ |
but even my 570 gives 25 FPS when looking at the spawn |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
Calinou_: HD6870 with the very latest fglrx. |
| 16:14 |
Calinou_ |
KikaRz: try? |
| 16:14 |
KikaRz |
Calinou_, ok |
| 16:14 |
KikaRz |
Calinou_, change your name to Calinou |
| 16:14 |
Calinou |
ah I can now |
| 16:14 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, Easier to TAB |
| 16:14 |
Calinou |
I got "nick temporarily unavailable" before |
| 16:14 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, the _ gets glitched. |
| 16:15 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, can I record your server? *w* |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: sure, but get permission from whoever's on. |
| 16:15 |
KikaRz |
And: the liquids are enabled? And no possibility to crash ? |
| 16:15 |
* sfan5 |
is currently building MinetestServer for android |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
sfan5: is it possible to forward ports to a smartphone/tablet? |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
don't they have a firewall? |
| 16:16 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: most don't have one |
| 16:17 |
Calinou |
at least I hope the server will be usable, unlike on raspi |
| 16:17 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, I want to make my waterfall as seen in Minecraft. (youtube.com/joaoadriano3 |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
tws |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
twss* |
| 16:22 |
reactor |
Is it possible to create an empty world? |
| 16:22 |
sfan5 |
reactor: yes |
| 16:22 |
reactor |
good |
| 16:24 |
grogaway |
sfan5: I don't mind if you'd like to remove my instacabin mod from the forums - sorry, I didn't realize there was a licensing issue with what I was doing, and I definitely don't want to upset anyone here. |
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| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
wut? |
| 16:24 |
PilzAdam |
i? |
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| 16:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oops |
| 16:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
did you get that message, sfan5? |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: not your fault |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
link? |
| 16:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6195 |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, fix your bot |
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| 16:27 |
i |
http://ubuntuone.com/5teK6XlD2VzdpMRiKUIwv3 |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: umm |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
just rewrite the mod so it uses the API |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
i, please change your nick |
| 16:28 |
reactor |
iUbuntu |
| 16:29 |
sfan5 |
!oo |
| 16:29 |
sfan5 |
!op |
| 16:29 |
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I was kicked by sfan5: Come back when you have changed your nick to something over 4 characters |
| 16:29 |
reactor |
Pwneth! |
| 16:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
sfan5: I'd rather just have it taken down, if possible. The point of it was to use the deserialize function from worldedit in my mod, but not necessarily require the entire WE mod to be installed on a server. |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
ban ???!*q* ? |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
s/q/@ |
| 16:30 |
kahrl |
or make the highlight flood detector ignore short nicks |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: "entire WE mod" .. you only need the "worldedit" mod not worldedit_commands |
| 16:32 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 16:33 |
KikaRz |
Who is I? |
| 16:33 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
| 16:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
sfan5: Yes, but I just wanted to make a mod that did one function, and not rely on another mod in order to do so. In other words, only have the default dependencies. If by copying the deserialize function from WE violates licensing, then I'd rather just have the post removed. |
| 16:34 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: ok, if you want |
| 16:34 |
thefamilygrog66 |
If that's what has to be done to prevent problems with licensing, then yes. |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
removed(not deleted, but removed [from normal people accessible things]) |
| 16:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks. |
| 16:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'll take it off github as well. |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: I'm not a licensing expert, but you could license your mod under a license that is compatible with AGPLv3 |
| 16:36 |
MarkTwain |
How can you take things off GitHub? |
| 16:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, there were somehow ten hilights in there. Or maybe it is broken. |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
!kick KikaRz <KikaRz> can you kick me out of the channel? |
| 16:36 |
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KikaRz was kicked by MinetestBot: <KikaRz> can you kick me out of the channel? |
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| 16:36 |
KikaRz |
thanks |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: there was an user named "I" in the channel |
| 16:37 |
KikaRz |
and he sent this: http://ubuntuone.com/5teK6XlD2VzdpMRiKUIwv3 |
| 16:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
MarkTwain: not sure exactly, but I'm going to try now... |
| 16:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah, it should check only 3+ char nicks. |
| 16:38 |
thereisalimitofc |
ok |
| 16:38 |
KikaRz |
I was testing limits |
| 16:38 |
MarkTwain |
thereisalimitofcharacters |
| 16:38 |
MarkTwain |
? |
| 16:38 |
KikaRz |
ok, no ééaáÃó |
| 16:38 |
KikaRz |
erroneus |
| 16:38 |
KikaRz |
* éà éééà :Erroneous Nickname |
| 16:39 |
MarkTwain |
eeææ→→ø |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
*erroneous |
| 16:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
sfan5: I might look into that, but to be honest, I'd rather just not have to deal with that sort of thing - wtfpl makes the most sense to me in this context |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
cool error! |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
who can make commits? |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
like, updating files? |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
I want to test how to update minetest |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 16:39 |
sfan5 |
git pull |
| 16:39 |
KikaRz |
I know how |
| 16:40 |
KikaRz |
but I want to test |
| 16:40 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
oh, I can add a big "KikaRz" logo to the menu |
| 16:42 |
KikaRz |
lol... |
| 16:42 |
KikaRz |
Ok. |
| 16:42 |
KikaRz |
I got one idea for Minetest. |
| 16:43 |
KikaRz |
Fast Downloads. |
| 16:43 |
KikaRz |
What that does? You place files in a ftp, then , you put link in config of the server |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
!seen proller |
| 16:43 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen proller around. |
| 16:43 |
KikaRz |
!seen proler |
| 16:43 |
KikaRz |
:C |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
!seen troller |
| 16:43 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen troller around. |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
!unignore KikaRz |
| 16:43 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list. |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
umm |
| 16:43 |
PilzAdam |
<KikaRz> What that does? You place files in a ftp, then , you put link in config of the server <- we already have that |
| 16:44 |
KikaRz |
No we don't '-' |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
cURL supports ftp://foo.bar.com/ links |
| 16:44 |
KikaRz |
So, why the files don't download faster? '-' |
| 16:44 |
PilzAdam |
the setting is called remote_media |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
ftp is slow |
| 16:44 |
PilzAdam |
you need cURL support compiled in, though |
| 16:44 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 16:44 |
KikaRz |
And how I compile iwth cURL? |
| 16:45 |
PilzAdam |
-DENABLE_CURL=1 I guess |
| 16:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
MarkTwain (and anyone else interested): I just deleted the repository on github by clicking on the "settings" tab, and then scrolling down to the bottom of the red, DANGER ZONE section. |
| 16:45 |
KikaRz |
??? |
| 16:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
DAAANGGGERR |
| 16:45 |
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| 16:45 |
KikaRz |
not working |
| 16:46 |
KikaRz |
not working |
| 16:47 |
KikaRz |
it's cmake -DENABLE_CURL 1? |
| 16:47 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> -DENABLE_CURL=1 I guess |
| 16:47 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 16:47 |
reactor |
! |
| 16:47 |
PilzAdam |
use CMAKE . -LH to see a list |
| 16:47 |
KikaRz |
curl library its what? -.- |
| 16:47 |
PilzAdam |
libcurl-<something> |
| 16:47 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 16:47 |
KikaRz |
Yes, I know that, but WHAT? |
| 16:48 |
PilzAdam |
tab is your friend |
| 16:48 |
reactor |
How to make a dedicated server load mods? |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, not working |
| 16:48 |
reactor |
They load fine when I run minetest, but minetestserver doesn't load them. |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
Ok, i got many... |
| 16:48 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, oh got you are lazy |
| 16:48 |
sfan5 |
reactor: the dirty and easieast way: "cp -Rfv mods/* games/<gameid>/mods" |
| 16:48 |
PilzAdam |
-t+d |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
libcurl3 libcurl3-nss libcurl4-openssl-dev libcurl3-dbg libcurl4-gnutls-dev libcurl-ocaml libcurl3-gnutls libcurl4-nss-dev libcurl-ocaml-dev |
| 16:48 |
reactor |
oh! |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
What to choose? |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: libcurl4-openssl-dev |
| 16:49 |
KikaRz |
Thank you sfan5, you are my friend <3 |
| 16:49 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: reload FloodProtector |
| 16:49 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:49 |
KikaRz |
Pilz, go get some sleep, you are in Adam drugs. |
| 16:49 |
PilzAdam |
libcurl4-gnutls-dev |
| 16:49 |
KikaRz |
Pilz, I don't trust in you, Adams. |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
why gnutls when you can have openssl? ;) |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, what you use? |
| 16:50 |
PilzAdam |
I have both |
| 16:50 |
sfan5 |
sfan5: the openssl thing I think |
| 16:50 |
PilzAdam |
also nns |
| 16:50 |
ShadowNinja |
It should only count nicks longer than three characters (exclusive) at the next regexp update (join/part/quit). |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
KikaRz: testing Highlighttomyself |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
DIdn't worked. |
| 16:50 |
PilzAdam |
!kick ShadowBot |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
Hah, noob. |
| 16:50 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
| 16:50 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
MinetestBot! |
| 16:50 |
MinetestBot |
KikaRz! |
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| 16:51 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: ? |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
" at the next regexp update " |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
$ dpkg --get-selections | grep libcurl4 |
| 16:51 |
sfan5 |
libcurl4-openssl-devinstall |
| 16:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Well there aren't any realy short nicks here right now. |
| 16:52 |
PilzAdam |
$ apt-cache search libcurl4 |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja: there was "i" an hour ago :P |
| 16:52 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, should I use -RUN_IN_PLACE 1 ? |
| 16:52 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: use "-DRUN_IN_PLACE=1" |
| 16:52 |
KikaRz |
(that makes minetest to go to ".minetest" ? |
| 16:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Yes, he got kicked and the regexp will no longer include him. |
| 16:53 |
sfan5 |
exactly like that |
| 16:53 |
KikaRz |
I hate .minetest... |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja: heh |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: .minetest ftw |
| 16:53 |
KikaRz |
ftw = ? |
| 16:53 |
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| 16:53 |
KikaRz |
front the way? |
| 16:53 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
for the win |
| 16:53 |
KikaRz |
I'm not AMARICANA |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
or just fuck the what |
| 16:54 |
KikaRz |
fuck the whooze |
| 16:54 |
KikaRz |
lawl |
| 16:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Who has the largest rollback log? (950M here) |
| 16:56 |
Calinou |
DSK has the largest rollback log |
| 16:56 |
Calinou |
252E |
| 16:56 |
Calinou |
:trollface: |
| 16:56 |
KikaRz |
testing "make -j5" |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
ubuntu users: "use make -jT" |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
arch users: "use make -jT+1" |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
gentoo users: "set swappiness to 100 then use make -j" |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 16:57 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Why so? |
| 16:57 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, lol |
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| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
if -j5 fails, i'll try -j6, if -j6 fails, i'll try -j7, if j7 fails, i'll try -j8... if -j1999 i'll try -j2000... |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, why? |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
what that does? |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
jT? |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
tip: -jT can never fail |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
T for threads |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
even without an argument it won't |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
Namb... |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
We already know |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
but using more jobs than CPU cores will be slow |
| 16:58 |
KikaRz |
and? |
| 16:59 |
KikaRz |
-j2 is slower... |
| 16:59 |
KikaRz |
Ok, guys, How I compile to my friend that uses Shitdows? |
| 16:59 |
reactor |
Shitdows :D |
| 16:59 |
KikaRz |
or Winshit |
| 16:59 |
reactor |
Yeah |
| 16:59 |
PilzAdam |
utils/buildbot/ |
| 16:59 |
reactor |
or both |
| 16:59 |
KikaRz |
or wishitoes |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
compiling on windows is like trying to watch MLP on BSD |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
don't even try |
| 17:00 |
KikaRz |
I want to build to my friend |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
tip: there are windows builds available on the minetest forums |
| 17:00 |
KikaRz |
and PilzAdam, How I use that? |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
tell them to use virtualbox, run xubuntu in virtualbox :P |
| 17:00 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, he likes my modified versions |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
twss |
| 17:00 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, no, twHs |
| 17:00 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, you need some basic understanding of what you are doing, so RTFM |
| 17:01 |
KikaRz |
RTFM? some kind of FM radio? |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
YESS!!! |
| 17:01 |
PilzAdam |
yea, kinda |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
minetestserver for android compiled |
| 17:01 |
KikaRz |
Rabos de Travestis Fantasiados por Mães |
| 17:01 |
reactor |
Mгes? |
| 17:01 |
reactor |
Cyrillic? |
| 17:01 |
KikaRz |
Translated: Travesti Butts Fantasied by Mothers |
| 17:02 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, I want to join an ultra laggy server on your phone in the next 10 minutes or didnt happen |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
one sec |
| 17:02 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, can you help me with Windows Build? |
| 17:02 |
reactor |
ОШN6KРЧТЕÐNЯ /dev/ra0a |
| 17:02 |
KikaRz |
reactor, only English |
| 17:02 |
KikaRz |
Or: Translate.google.pt |
| 17:02 |
KikaRz |
*.cm |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
/dev/ra0a? |
| 17:02 |
KikaRz |
*.com |
| 17:03 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, that's my pendrive |
| 17:03 |
* Calinou |
slaps reactor around a bit with a large /dev/nvidiactl |
| 17:03 |
* KikaRz |
slaps Calinou around a lot with a large /dev/null |
| 17:03 |
reactor |
that's a disk |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: want to play on xonotic some freezetag? |
| 17:04 |
KikaRz |
No thanks. |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 17:04 |
KikaRz |
I've been playing all night |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
play on non-vehicle servers if you don't like vehicles |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
| 17:04 |
KikaRz |
I played on non-vehicle servers |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
now I need to compile all shit again just because make package requires the install prefix to be /tmp |
| 17:04 |
KikaRz |
Now guys, who can help me getting back my beautiful title bars? :'( |
| 17:04 |
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| 17:05 |
Calinou |
dunno |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
did you try changing the theme, KikaRz ? |
| 17:05 |
KikaRz |
Yes. |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
then don't |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
set it back to "Greybird" |
| 17:05 |
KikaRz |
which one? |
| 17:05 |
KikaRz |
greybird or Greybird? |
| 17:05 |
KikaRz |
Nope |
| 17:06 |
KikaRz |
None worked. |
| 17:07 |
KikaRz |
xfwm4 --replace didn't worked |
| 17:07 |
* sfan5 |
is such an idiot |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
Why? |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
"window manager theme" |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
not "style" |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
I changed that |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
Oh |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
where is that? |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
Window Manager? |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
yea |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
Oh! |
| 17:08 |
KikaRz |
STUPID GREYBIRD! |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
you're using english? aren't you spanish? :P |
| 17:09 |
KikaRz |
Yes, I'm using english |
| 17:09 |
KikaRz |
If I use Greybird WMtheme, it don't works |
| 17:09 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: it will take some time, I have to rebuilt anything because I forgot RUN_IN_PLACE |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
see? didnt happen... :-p |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
"not yet" |
| 17:10 |
KikaRz |
Thank you Calinoua |
| 17:10 |
KikaRz |
Thank you Calinou! |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
here is it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetestserver-0.4.7-android.tar.gz |
| 17:14 |
proller |
market it! 8) |
| 17:14 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, that's only the server??? |
| 17:14 |
KikaRz |
I wanted that to be the Client for Android *w* |
| 17:14 |
KikaRz |
Why you don't create Minetest for mobile? |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
There is something lurking through grey parts of textures. |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
Looks like the engine confuses grey with transparency. |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
reactor: s/engine/software renderer |
| 17:20 |
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| 17:20 |
reactor |
Maybe. |
| 17:20 |
reactor |
I don't know. |
| 17:20 |
reactor |
s/software renderer/something |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
OMFG!!! it works |
| 17:22 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: IP? |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
one sec |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
69.69.69.69:80085 probably |
| 17:22 |
* Calinou |
knows ports can't go above 65535 |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
omfg!! |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
it works |
| 17:24 |
PilzAdam |
<ShadowNinja> sfan5: IP? |
| 17:24 |
PilzAdam |
<sfan5> one sec |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
there seems to be some endianess incompatibilites, but it works |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
but super slow |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
yes, yes |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
sfan5: what's your device? |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-<something> |
| 17:26 |
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| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
!up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 |
| 17:27 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (231ms) |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
^ ip of the server on my android phone |
| 17:27 |
ShadowNinja |
How powerful is that? |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> but super slow |
| 17:28 |
* PilzAdam |
connects |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
takes 5-10 secs for it to realize that I dug blocks |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
sfan5, port irrlicht |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: it is already ported |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
sfan5: yeah, old low end thing :P |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
sfan5, now try that on a SGS4 |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: buy me one |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
<- IS NOT your slave |
| 17:29 |
reactor |
Hm. |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
seems like the server hung up |
| 17:29 |
reactor |
It seems //import is missing from World Edit. |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
restarted |
| 17:29 |
reactor |
How? |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
reactor: //load |
| 17:29 |
* ShadowNinja |
has a decent tablet. (nexus 7) |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: try it on there |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetestserver-0.4.7-android.tar.gz |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, "Connecting to server..." |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: try again |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
Jordach: a nexus 4 is quite powerful (for a smartphone) and is "only" 300 euros :P |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
actually let me disable anticheat to make it faster |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
but it only has 8GB and non-extensible storage |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
and battery life is meh |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
Calinou, ew, no MicroSD slot |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
yep, non-extensible |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
oh, and SGS4 has a removable battery. |
| 17:32 |
rubenwardy |
JAVA! |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
"-!- Invalid Command: /help" |
| 17:32 |
KikaRz |
WHO SAID JAVA? I'll kill that person... |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdam |
Java |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
death by java |
| 17:32 |
KikaRz |
I hate java... |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
do you hate your brain too? |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
Any suggestions how to make a minetest server faster? |
| 17:33 |
khonkhortisan |
robocode uses java |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
(config settings) |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, remove all mods but defaulz |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
*default |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
and, use the default mod of minimal |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
k |
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| 17:34 |
Jordach |
my space fighter: http://imgur.com/a/MBDPj |
| 17:34 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 17:34 |
webdesigner97 |
VE? |
| 17:34 |
reactor |
no fly privilege in singleplayer! |
| 17:34 |
reactor |
sfan5: I see... thank you |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
<reactor> no fly privilege in singleplayer! <- thats normal |
| 17:34 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: could you try connecting now? |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
yes? |
| 17:34 |
webdesigner97 |
I need you ;) |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
uh oh |
| 17:35 |
webdesigner97 |
only fpr circular saw |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
I didn't do it, I sweat |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
swear* |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
hehe ok |
| 17:35 |
webdesigner97 |
:D |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
19:35:22: ACTION[ServerThread]: Jordach joins game. List of players: Jordach |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
^ yay |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
webdesigner97: https://github.com/VanessaE/gloopblocks/blob/master/init.lua#L180 |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
CHAT WORKS |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, still nothing... |
| 17:36 |
webdesigner97 |
let's take line 178 for example... |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
modname first, then the base of the node name, then the drop (I think), then group, textures, description, I forget the next one (I always make it the same as the node name), the setting for paramtype2, and the ligth value if any (0 for none) |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: jordach could connect |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
you have to register the stairs/slabs/etc first |
| 17:37 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: could you try to connect to the minetestserver running on my android phone |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
then register it with the circular saw (line 191 goes with the register call at line 180) |
| 17:37 |
webdesigner97 |
uhm, ok? |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: sure |
| 17:37 |
webdesigner97 |
sure |
| 17:37 |
webdesigner97 |
w8 |
| 17:37 |
sfan5 |
!up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 |
| 17:37 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (156ms) |
| 17:37 |
webdesigner97 |
no |
| 17:37 |
sfan5 |
^ this |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
connecting... |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
there it goes |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
is this....0.3.1? |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
oh right, minimal |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
seems to work except the chat is sorta broken |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
(names are off by two chars) |
| 17:38 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, remove leafdeacay and all other ABMs |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/dIs9oWJ.png |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
or rather, names are just..broken :) |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
but it works |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: disable_anticheat made it faster |
| 17:39 |
webdesigner97 |
What is the seond param? The base block for the stairs? |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: probably because of endianess |
| 17:39 |
webdesigner97 |
(VE) |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, whats the version of Droid are you running this on |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 17:39 |
webdesigner97 |
I'll try it out again |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE |
webdesigner97: default:cobble --> cobble |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, Im on |
| 17:40 |
webdesigner97 |
what do you mean by that, VE? |
| 17:40 |
VanessaE |
webdesigner97: yourmod:coolblock --> coolblock --> yourmod:slab_coolblock_quarter |
| 17:40 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: 2.3.6 |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i have a 4.0 tablet |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, chat is fucked up |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
ill test it later |
| 17:40 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: ik |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
webdesigner97: that's how the naming is resolved from the parameters you give it |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: you may have to get busybox on your device to unpack the tar.gz |
| 17:41 |
webdesigner97 |
ok |
| 17:41 |
Jordach |
sfan5, file expert undoes tar |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, everyone turn fly and noclip on |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
My guinea pig: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/DSCF2587.jpg |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: yeah, I bet that app can't access /data/local/tmp |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
sfan5, root |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
awww |
| 17:42 |
reactor |
Yay! A netsplit! |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
sfan5, the mapgen is fucking quick |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
it generates as fast as i can walk |
| 17:43 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: it doesn' even use LuaJIT |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
aand the server hung up |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
server restarted |
| 17:44 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, turn the map to singlenode now |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
what do I need to put in map_meta.txt again |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
mg_name = singlenode |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
Also: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/DSCF2527.jpg (VanessaE) |
| 17:46 |
sfan5 |
done |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, a new map? |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
Im just falling in air |
| 17:46 |
* sfan5 |
too |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, where is the singlenode generated |
| 17:47 |
PilzAdam |
singlenode == all nodes are the same |
| 17:47 |
PilzAdam |
the same == air by default |
| 17:47 |
webdesigner97 |
VE, do I need to register all kinds of stairs or can I pick some of the? |
| 17:47 |
webdesigner97 |
*them |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
I'll try mapgen index |
| 17:47 |
sfan5 |
*indev |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
no, its even slower |
| 17:48 |
sfan5 |
spawned in the ground... |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
(than v6) |
| 17:48 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 17:48 |
sfan5 |
v7? |
| 17:49 |
reactor |
how do I enable certain mods _before_ map creation> |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
maybe |
| 17:49 |
reactor |
? |
| 17:49 |
sfan5 |
i'll try v7 |
| 17:50 |
sfan5 |
even more slower... |
| 17:50 |
sfan5 |
i'll stick with v6 |
| 17:52 |
sfan5 |
let me try if server_announce works |
| 17:52 |
PilzAdam |
you shoudl generate some terrain with v6 and then switch to singlenode |
| 17:52 |
PilzAdam |
thats what I originally meant |
| 17:52 |
sfan5 |
oh, ok |
| 17:53 |
sfan5 |
oh wait, I didn't compile curl in |
| 17:53 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 17:53 |
reactor |
it's imported |
| 17:53 |
reactor |
but flipped |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
kkk |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
oops |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
wrong window |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: I generated some map with v6 and switched to singlenode now |
| 17:55 |
sfan5 |
*terrain |
| 17:57 |
webdesigner97 |
VE, I can't make it work :( |
| 17:57 |
webdesigner97 |
http://pastebin.com/hhf7k86J |
| 17:58 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Could you post that link again? |
| 17:58 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> here is it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetestserver-0.4.7-android.tar.gz |
| 17:59 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: its not an app or so, you need to enable "adb push minetestser<tab> /data/local/tmp" and "adb shell" to unpack and use it |
| 17:59 |
sfan5 |
*use |
| 18:00 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: I know that, trying to unpack now... |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: tar from the busybox on my phone didn't have -z so I had to use gzip -d |
| 18:01 |
reactor |
The tomtweschem.py has a bug: it flips. |
| 18:01 |
sfan5 |
I |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
even the screens in the article show that |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
-_- |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
reactor: ..i shouldn't flip |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
*it |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
strange |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
but screens shows the flippage, too |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
show* |
| 18:02 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, can you grant me fly and noclip? |
| 18:02 |
PilzAdam |
Im inside of a node |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: you should have it |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 18:02 |
sfan5 |
commands don't work |
| 18:02 |
reactor |
http://i.imgur.com/CC7215r.jpg |
| 18:03 |
reactor |
http://i.imgur.com/iiOqrCP.jpg |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
i'll set default_privs |
| 18:03 |
reactor |
horizontally |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
reactor: yeah, I saw it |
| 18:03 |
reactor |
I wonder if that's the script or the we |
| 18:03 |
sfan5 |
reactor: the script |
| 18:04 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: 've set the default privs |
| 18:04 |
sfan5 |
+I |
| 18:05 |
PilzAdam |
you need to restart |
| 18:05 |
reactor |
sfan5: mkay |
| 18:05 |
reactor |
great work, otherwise |
| 18:06 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, works |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
reactor: MCEdit can make MT WE schematics? O_o |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
is it official? |
| 18:07 |
reactor |
I don't know. |
| 18:07 |
Calinou |
BSD users definitely don't know anything :trollface: |
| 18:07 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, wow, building a tower works without noticeable lag; thx client side prediction |
| 18:08 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: I made an mcedit filter |
| 18:08 |
reactor |
Calinou: yes, I know you're fat and green. |
| 18:08 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: I also disabled anticheat, with anticheat enabled the blocks may disappear and appear again |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, your nick is " 5 cr" |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
in the chat |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
yeah, thats really buggy |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
LOL! the chest texture :D |
| 18:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, chmod won't work and it doesn't have +x. |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: I used busybox's "ash" for executing minetestserver |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
also the chmod from busybox works better |
| 18:13 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, I can see you building without lag |
| 18:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Busybox chmod also does nothing. |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, ok, I got the whole map loaded |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
:D |
| 18:17 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, its a perfect cube! |
| 18:17 |
webdesigner97 |
bye! |
| 18:17 |
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| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, 50% desert, 25% normal biome and 25% water |
| 18:19 |
sfan5 |
I guess that fits |
| 18:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Maybe it is mounted with noexec or something. |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: could be |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
theres no need to try the sdcard, because thats always mounted with noexec |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
but since /data/local/tmp should be in the system partition it should be executeable |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
e |
| 18:20 |
sfan5 |
*-e |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, did your server crashed? |
| 18:21 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
s/crashed/crash |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
double past ;) |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
I think yes. |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
I'm lagging bad |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
server crashed |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
I think |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
I froze up |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
and you too |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
no, it's up |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
you were walking on air |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
infinitly |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Connecting to server... |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
checking |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
didn't worked. |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Well |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
going to wash my hair |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
and my head. |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
wait |
| 18:23 |
reactor |
load_mod_no_mapgen = true |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, what were you about to show me? |
| 18:23 |
reactor |
but it still has generated some stuff |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
server restarting. |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, what were you about to show me? |
| 18:23 |
reactor |
...not some, but it still generates |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
Gtg. |
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ShadowNinja |
Alright, running on port 30001, just have to forward... |
| 18:25 |
sfan5 |
yay |
| 18:27 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, summary: your phone server works a billion times better than expected! |
| 18:27 |
sfan5 |
yep |
| 18:27 |
* sfan5 |
expected it to insta-segfault |
| 18:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Done. |
| 18:29 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: up shadowninja.minetest.net 30001 |
| 18:29 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: shadowninja.minetest.net:30001 is up (565ms) |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752525/ |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
it doesnt work |
| 18:30 |
ShadowNinja |
It ignores everyone but me. |
| 18:30 |
ShadowNinja |
(To prevent conflicts with MinetestBot) |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
then its not useful bot |
| 18:31 |
ShadowNinja |
john_minetest: ,,(up vanessae.mine.bz) |
| 18:31 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (345ms) |
| 18:31 |
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| 18:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Use !up. If MinetestBot is around it will respond, if not mine will. |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, this just breaks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752525/ |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
oh wait |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
missing an end |
| 18:33 |
ShadowNinja |
I can't because they will both respond. |
| 18:33 |
KikaRz |
!up vanessae.mine.bz |
| 18:33 |
MinetestBot |
vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (359ms) |
| 18:34 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, the singlenode mapgen in the engine is a bit faster |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
there are updates in git? |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, the world is already singlenode |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
but the node appears black |
| 18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: That will add mese everytime a block is loaded. |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
ShadowBot, i wanted a core block |
| 18:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Then check minp and maxp. |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, the block appears black without any form of lighting |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
this might actually be useful for a space map |
| 18:37 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Chat is broken. |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: you can't see the players names and many other things are also broken |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
commands don't work |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
but all in all, it works better than I first expected |
| 18:38 |
ShadowNinja |
Well it's a start. :-) |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, actually, the lighting works for me |
| 18:39 |
* ShadowNinja |
wants a android client. :-) |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
oops, i meant chat and player names |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
if anyone wants to compile minetestserver for android, you need https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetestserver-android.patch and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/zlib-1.2.8-arm.zip |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
^ ShadowNinja: you COULD try to fix some of the chat bugs |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/ |
| 18:48 |
reactor |
So eh. |
| 18:48 |
reactor |
Server mods are per-game, and client ones are client-wide? |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
there are no client side mods |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
thexyz, i aborted installation of that the other day |
| 18:50 |
reactor |
I mean, multiplayer mods and simgleplayer mods. |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
in singleplayer the server is just hosted on the same PC |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
there is no differenve in mod handling |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
*difference |
| 18:52 |
reactor |
why do I put mods in gamedir/games/minetest/mods for them to work on a dedicated server? |
| 18:53 |
PilzAdam |
because you forgot to enable them when putting them in mods/ ? |
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| 18:54 |
reactor |
enable, eh? |
| 18:55 |
reactor |
I get mutually exclusive answers from the web. |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods |
| 18:55 |
reactor |
By the way, is there a way to pass textures to clients? |
| 18:56 |
PilzAdam |
textures are always downloaded from the server |
| 18:56 |
PilzAdam |
clients can use their own texture, though, by putting them in textures/all/ |
| 18:57 |
reactor |
oh |
| 18:57 |
reactor |
good |
| 18:59 |
ShadowNinja |
My tablet is getting really hot... |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
start of my own space map using the regenerative glowing_mese core: http://i.imgur.com/mUjE2D3.png |
| 18:59 |
ShadowNinja |
But only 50% usage by minetestserver. |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: how does your duplication bug appear? |
| 19:02 |
ShadowNinja |
The one where you drop a item on a single sand pipe. I told you about it a while ago. |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
oh that |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
also, I found a bug as well, but of course Nore isn't around to fix it... whenever something goes into a mese pipe, sometimes half of that stack gets sent back to the source |
| 19:10 |
reactor |
So, anyone else using no_mapgen? |
| 19:13 |
KikaRz |
Guys, how I use buildbot? Whats this Build Directory? output? (Usage: ./buildwin32.sh <build directory> |
| 19:13 |
KikaRz |
) |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
Usage: ./buildwin32.sh <build directory> |
| 19:14 |
KikaRz |
... WHAT BUILD DIRECTORY? OUTPUT? |
| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
or ~/minetest? |
| 19:15 |
reactor |
Oh well. Good nighty. |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
./buildwin32.sh: linha 76: 7z: comando não reconhecido |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
(unknown command) |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
(unrecognized command) |
| 19:17 |
ShadowNinja |
KikaRz: Just a empty directory. |
| 19:17 |
KikaRz |
ok. |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
same error |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
ok I see what's happening with the pipes |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
./buildwin32.sh: linha 76: 7z: comando não reconhecido (unrecognized command) |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
there's no duplication at all |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
I know |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
They stack |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
then divide. |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
it's that pipes are occasionally splitting the stacks and sending some of them backwards |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
through all sides '-' |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
backwards? |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
I didn't seen any item going backwards... lawl |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
if it's a mese sorting tube, half the stack gets sent forward, half gets sent back to the input stream |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
the other tubes pass half of each stack through each output pipe |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
come back to my server, I've rebuilt the sorting machine to make it more clear what's happening |
| 19:20 |
KikaRz |
I was about to start playing CS 1.6 |
| 19:20 |
KikaRz |
but ok |
| 19:21 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 19:21 |
KikaRz |
why I got 2 users in /home? (saying: joao "default, my brother and mine user" ; vanessa "that contains VanessaE Texture Packs and Mods") ? |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
looks like a sand tube placed at the point where they're all returning to and ejecting from works |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
works..to suck up the ejected items and keep the flowing back into the tubes. |
| 19:22 |
KikaRz |
Yes, but why I have got that 2 folders in /home ? |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
how would I know? :) |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
There is one User from you! |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
each linux user normaly gets their own folder |
| 19:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
do I get my own folder too? |
| 19:26 |
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| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
if you have an account on her box, sure :D |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
I MADE A BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG STACK |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
discovered a bug in your system |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
too high stacks = items get stucked on sky |
| 19:29 |
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| 19:33 |
KikaRz |
lag |
| 19:33 |
KikaRz |
how I enhance my minetest performance? |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
by getting a better PC? :P |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
try disabling fancy trees, shaders, and clouds |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
enable_clouds = 0 |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
already done |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
all disabled |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
in minetest.conf to fully disable clouds |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
all disabled |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
enable_fog = 0 too |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
Playing Condition Zero |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
ALREADY |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
dont play singleplayer |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
I didn't |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
I was playing on VanessaE's server |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 19:36 |
PilzAdam |
lag != bad performance |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
Yes... |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
Lag = Bad Performance / PING |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
Lag = Bad Performance / PING / FPS |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
no |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
ping and FPS are not linked at all |
| 19:38 |
KikaRz |
yes |
| 19:38 |
KikaRz |
they are |
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PilzAdam |
mito551, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5751756 |
| 20:00 |
mito551 |
thank you |
| 20:02 |
PilzAdam |
it would be nice if you could find a mix of realism and... idk what to call... maybe "comic" style? |
| 20:02 |
PilzAdam |
comic doesnt really fit |
| 20:02 |
PilzAdam |
"unrealistic game sound" maybe? |
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khonkhortisan |
When I play all the noteblocks at the same time, it takes 5 seconds to play them all, and a single noteblock can have 3 echos. What can I do to fix the sound? |
| 20:09 |
mito551 |
PilzAdam wow, if you can do all of these suggestion how come you didn't change the current minetest sounds? |
| 20:09 |
PilzAdam |
well, I cant |
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| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
Help |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
One guy is trying to hack me! |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
By IRC! |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
PROKILL [XTREME-CM.ORG] on steam! |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
What's the probability of being hacked in Linux? |
| 20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
wow, a noteblock activates _12_ times when it turns on once! |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
cool! |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
but with different types of sound? |
| 20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
action_on is misbehaving |
| 20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
the same sound, echoed |
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| 20:21 |
Calinou |
[random offtopic thing] anyone wants to play chess with me? http://lichess.org/5249xvdi :P |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
khonkhortisan, can you help me? |
| 20:22 |
khonkhortisan |
I have bt5r3, but I don't know how to use it |
| 20:22 |
KikaRz |
someone can help me? -.- |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
who clicked it? |
| 20:22 |
KikaRz |
I'm being hacked |
| 20:22 |
khonkhortisan |
me |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 20:22 |
khonkhortisan |
which one is the queen? |
| 20:23 |
khonkhortisan |
ooh a timer |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
the one with a lot of spikes |
| 20:23 |
khonkhortisan |
ok |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
yep |
| 20:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I get those mixed up |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
there is an ingame chat btw |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't see it |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
oh - narrow window |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
narrow window? |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 20:24 |
KikaRz |
I'm looking game |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, ? |
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| 20:25 |
KikaRz |
I'm watching game |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
oh, if you click the link, you spectate |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan doesn't seem to play |
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| 20:34 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan, gg |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
how long have you been playing chess? |
| 20:34 |
KikaRz |
Checkmate |
| 20:34 |
KikaRz |
I want to play with you Calinou |
| 20:34 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, lost? |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
lost, yeah |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, ok |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
http://lichess.org/gssz4r65 to spectate |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't play chess much |
| 20:39 |
khonkhortisan |
what makes the timer go up? |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan, 8 secs per move |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
this is the default |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
yey queen |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
checkmate |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Support cyclic references in luacontroller memory tables, prohibit usage of goto statement (bugs reported by Nore). c87bc60635 2013-06-10T13:40:34-07:00 http://git.io/KQA3qg |
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| 20:44 |
Calinou |
intel ad at TV \o/ |
| 20:44 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, wich one? |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
about ultrabooks |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
do, do-do-do-do |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, want to play? :P |
| 20:45 |
PilzAdam |
no, I dont play chess |
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| 20:45 |
Uberi |
hey everyone, if you have a server running Mesecons, please upgrade it ASAP, there is an important security fix out |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, how to attack servers that are not updated? :-p |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
by creating spam machines :> |
| 20:48 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: see the latest posts in the thread :) |
| 20:48 |
Uberi |
goto could lock the server up |
| 20:49 |
Uberi |
and cyclic references can cause crashes |
| 20:49 |
PilzAdam |
lets poke VanessaE by crashing here server >:-) |
| 20:50 |
PilzAdam |
awww, she has no Luacontroller :-( |
| 20:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Updated. |
| 20:51 |
Uberi |
wait what? really? |
| 20:52 |
khonkhortisan |
noteblocks https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/108 |
| 20:52 |
KikaRz |
guys |
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ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: ^ |
| 20:52 |
KikaRz |
what's BuildAndShoot's thing? |
| 20:52 |
khonkhortisan |
When anyone types something, I can see this page refresh top to bottom |
| 20:52 |
KikaRz |
Jeija, ARE THOSE NOTEBLOCKS??? |
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| 20:53 |
Calinou |
there are noteblocks in mesecons already |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
and they are very loud :| |
| 20:53 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: you mean the new old AoS? |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
even with 40% volume (where other sounds are fine) |
| 20:53 |
khonkhortisan |
noteblock aren't as loud as toilets |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan, slow 2D accel |
| 20:53 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: will look into it |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, I want to know the IRC Channel and Network |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
blame fglrx|nvidia :> |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
Rizon don't works. |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
It's Quakenet? |
| 20:54 |
PilzAdam |
whats the itemname of the adminpick? |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
admin:pickaxe |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
lawl |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
maptools:adminpick |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
there are aliases |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
adminpick, admin_pick, pickadmin, pick_admin |
| 20:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Uberi: New old AoS? It is operational? |
| 20:55 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: have you looked at jy server launcher btw? |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 20:55 |
Uberi |
ShadowNinja: yep, new master server and all |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
jy server launcher? |
| 20:55 |
Uberi |
* my server selector |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:56 |
Uberi |
for AoS |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
I want to know HOW TO PUT IT ON LINUX??? |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, thx |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
I'll suicide myself |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, AoS does not work on linux AFAIK. |
| 20:56 |
ShadowNinja |
Uberi: Where do I get it? |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
maybe with wine |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
yes it works. |
| 20:56 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: bad idea, no sound with AoS on linux |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
And? |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
I don't want sound! |
| 20:56 |
Uberi |
(with WINE, I mean) |
| 20:56 |
* Calinou |
would like to see a port to minetest of AoS |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
I want gameplay! |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
isn't AoS paid anyway |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
There is one GITHUB '-' |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
No Calinou |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
http://buildandshoot.com/ |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
I mean, a minetest game that implements AoS |
| 20:57 |
KikaRz |
That's the good, and old Ace of Spades |
| 20:57 |
KikaRz |
THE ORIGINAL! |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
Calinou: that's the new AoS, and the reason there's a new old AoS :P |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: http://www.autohotkey.com/board/topic/72356-ace-of-spades-server-selector-updated-june-1-2013/ |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
lol autohotkey |
| 20:57 |
KikaRz |
That works on linux? |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
yes, with WINE |
| 20:57 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
which you'll be using anyways if you're playing BnS |
| 20:57 |
KikaRz |
I want for LINUX!!! |
| 20:57 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: then look for another game |
| 20:58 |
Uberi |
or use WINE |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
Fuck that another game! |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
I want Build and Shoot |
| 20:58 |
ShadowNinja |
It has IRC support? |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
and Minetest! |
| 20:58 |
* Calinou |
plays trackmania using wine just fine :> |
| 20:58 |
Uberi |
winehq.org is your friend |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
Yes ShadowNinja |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
Quakenet / #buildandshoot |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
Now I have GTA San Andreas and Ace of Spades for LINUX *w* |
| 20:59 |
ShadowNinja |
I imagine I can change that? |
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ShadowNinja |
(I want to use my own network) |
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| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, I don't know how to use WineHQ |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
Going to Try Trackmania Nations Forever |
| 21:02 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: give it a try, I recommend a good frontend |
| 21:02 |
khonkhortisan |
Calinou, you lost because of moving the rook between the bishop and king, when instead you could've captured the bishop, and had a rook-guarded rook threatening the king |
| 21:02 |
khonkhortisan |
move 27 c6 |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, you need good hardware |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, getting good performance |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
1) trackmania won't run on a P4 2) wine is very slow |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
89 FPS |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
*w* |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
2600K + 570, have to run at high settings with 4× AA. |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, I got with WINE, 89 FPS |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
on windows I can run everything maxed out 60+FPS |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
And I have one Athlon64 Dual Core |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
on linux I get 20 FPS |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
(yes, I disabled wine debugging) |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
let me try |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
to windowwed |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
anyway it isn't important, the game still looks good with high settings |
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| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
From first looking |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
I like the game |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
now lets see the gameplay |
| 21:06 |
* Calinou |
is ~19000 on ladder |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
about 67k ladder points |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
ladder points|lollipops|little ponies|whatever |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
dafuq? |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
My screen is fucked up |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
lawl |
| 21:06 |
KikaRz |
COOL! |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
I play a lot on fullspeed servers |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
there are some very skilled players btw :P |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, btw I can't play right now, but tomorrow I can |
| 21:10 |
KikaRz |
I love this game!!! |
| 21:10 |
KikaRz |
I love this game!!! |
| 21:10 |
KikaRz |
9,5/10! |
| 21:10 |
KikaRz |
Now, Ace of Spades on linux |
| 21:11 |
KikaRz |
We can use shortcuts from web? |
| 21:11 |
Uberi |
sort of |
| 21:11 |
Uberi |
if you use the WINE Gecko browser yeah |
| 21:12 |
Uberi |
you are using that right? |
| 21:12 |
KikaRz |
O endereço não foi compreendido |
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KikaRz |
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KikaRz |
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KikaRz |
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KikaRz |
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KikaRz |
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Uberi |
why hello there |
| 21:12 |
KikaRz |
Ok, translating: The Firefox can't know how to open this address, because of protocol (aos) that isn't associated to any program |
| 21:13 |
KikaRz |
So, what I do? |
| 21:13 |
khonkhortisan |
you find a program that can open aos |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
How? |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:14 |
khonkhortisan |
then either send the program directly to that link, or tell firefox what program to open it |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
Not that. -.- |
| 21:14 |
KikaRz |
Wine. |
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KikaRz |
How I tell Firefox, that "aos" corresponds to a program that is installed at Wine? |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
(insert shrugging rainbow dash here) |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
KikaRz, not sure if even possible |
| 21:15 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: copy link |
| 21:15 |
Uberi |
run within WINE |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
... How? -.- |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
but usually, to start a wine program with command line, you "cd" to the directory where the .exe is then use "wine file.exe" |
| 21:15 |
Uberi |
firefox? right click, copy link address |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
wait... |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
what if I do |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
wine <link> ? |
| 21:15 |
KikaRz |
it must open AoS |
| 21:15 |
Uberi |
exactly |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
wine: cannot find 'aos://3999992249:32887' |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
no no |
| 21:16 |
KikaRz |
so? |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
wine client.exe "aos://3999992249:32887" |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
WINE doesn't seem to support protocol handlers yet |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\client.exe" |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
nope |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
I need to direct to: |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
C:/Ace of Spades/client.exe |
| 21:17 |
Uberi |
yeah cd there first of course |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
ERROR - Server connection failed |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
going to try another |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
Duh. |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
Why I don't use a Game Launhcer? |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
http://launcher.buildandshoot.com/download |
| 21:19 |
Uberi |
if you do get it working, my server selector detects paths automagically and presents all of them in a nice list |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
that got the server list? |
| 21:19 |
Uberi |
oh that one, I'm pretty sure it requires .net framework |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
and? |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
I should install then |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 21:19 |
Uberi |
hahaha |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
Well |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
I think that supports net framework |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
Well, link of your server selector? |
| 21:20 |
Uberi |
see above |
| 21:21 |
kahrl |
you can define custom protocol handlers in most desktop environments, so you can click aos: links |
| 21:21 |
Uberi |
use the compiled version unless you want to install AHK as well |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
link for compiled thing |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
see above |
| 21:22 |
Uberi |
it's really not that hard to find |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, can you move this to old mods: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1710 ? |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt work right and is outdated (obisidan is in _game already) |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
With "wine client.exe 'address'" isn't working for any server |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: you should get that working first before trying any launchers |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
are you in the AoS dir? |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
also use double quotes, not ' |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
yes |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
And I used double |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
what happens? |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
joao pc:~/.wine/drive_c/Ace of Spades$ wine client.exe "aos://1379434439:33887" |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0 |
| 21:24 |
KikaRz |
Then: Server connection failed |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
try a different server |
| 21:25 |
Uberi |
an aloha.pk server preferably |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
not working |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
done |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, moved |
| 21:25 |
Uberi |
which server? |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
aos://1379434439:37887 |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
aloha.pk humans vs. zombies |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
. |
| 21:26 |
Uberi |
ah one of my favourite servers |
| 21:26 |
Uberi |
I'm going to play there now actually |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
idiot |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
help me to solve this |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
Your server thing dont works |
| 21:27 |
Uberi |
you'd best not throw about insults if you want any help |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
You don't help me |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
I'll have to force you |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
There's any Daemon Tools Lite for linux? |
| 21:28 |
sapier |
lol daemon tools? |
| 21:28 |
sapier |
what to you need them? |
| 21:30 |
KikaRz |
Mount ISO |
| 21:30 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:30 |
KikaRz |
GTA San ANdreas |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
use an archiver to extract it |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
peazip or 7zip do it without any complaints |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
2 cds? |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
yep |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
what I do |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
if it requests 2nd cd |
| 21:31 |
Uberi |
burn them |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
where? |
| 21:32 |
Uberi |
I dunno, a fireplace would be good |
| 21:32 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:32 |
KikaRz |
I can burn 2nd cd in pendrive |
| 21:32 |
KikaRz |
and then, when requests |
| 21:32 |
kahrl |
/give KikaRz fire:basic_flame |
| 21:33 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:33 |
KikaRz |
Shut up kharl |
| 21:33 |
Calinou |
/give KikaRz lava_source -1 |
| 21:33 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 21:33 |
Calinou |
night now |
| 21:34 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:34 |
Calinou |
period period period |
| 21:34 |
Uberi |
ellipses! |
| 21:34 |
khonkhortisan |
"..." "…" |
| 21:35 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: confirmed noteblocks issue, btw |
| 21:35 |
khonkhortisan |
k, I'm spewing print statements all over the place |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
I want Ace of Spades |
| 21:36 |
KikaRz |
TODAY |
| 21:36 |
Uberi |
ew, go invoke the GC in the bathroom |
| 21:36 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: yes, yes you do |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
GC? |
| 21:37 |
KikaRz |
Game Cheat? |
| 21:37 |
khonkhortisan |
garbage collector, I think |
| 21:40 |
khonkhortisan |
Uberi, I bet you can guess what the problem is with noteblocks |
| 21:40 |
khonkhortisan |
But I'll tell you anyway: MESECONS_GLOBALSTEP |
| 21:40 |
Uberi |
aw geez |
| 21:41 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, you that like Windows |
| 21:42 |
Uberi |
that sentence makes very little sense, I'm afraid |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
shutdown -r -c "PARADOX - Say Yes and I'll make you eat cookies!" -t "-1111111" |
| 21:42 |
khonkhortisan |
makes sense to me, it's just an unusual structure. |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
khonkhortisan, put there in CMD |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
then , write YES |
| 21:42 |
KikaRz |
on cmd |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
and you will get a surprise |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
*w* |
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Uberi |
no no, that interpretation would use "likes", not "like" |
| 21:43 |
khonkhortisan |
"you" then narrowing you by "that like Windows". Starting off with Uberi, it's decribing that person as "you that - maybe it should be likes instead of like. |
| 21:43 |
khonkhortisan |
^ |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 21:43 |
Uberi |
yeah that could work |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
well, would be better: |
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KikaRz |
you that likes windows |
| 21:43 |
KikaRz |
but windows can be material or OS |
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KikaRz |
omg, i'm paradoxing myself!!! |
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KikaRz |
aaaa! Aaa! |
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KikaRz |
Self Destruction |
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Uberi |
not necessarily "likes", so much as "haven't found a good replacement" |
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Uberi |
for instance, AoS doesn't have sound on any of the linuxes |
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KikaRz |
And? |
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KikaRz |
I dislike sound! |
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khonkhortisan |
"Uberi, you that likes windows" (singular) or "you that like windows" (plural) |
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KikaRz |
I like gameplay |
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Uberi |
it would likes in both cases, since it refers to the subject |
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KikaRz |
bye |
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KikaRz |
see ya tomorrow |
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Uberi |
the plural applies to Windows itself |
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KikaRz |
Tomorrow will be a big day |
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KikaRz |
:) |
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Uberi |
it always is |
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khonkhortisan |
createPlayingSoundAt: out of memory and before createPlayingSoundAt: invalid name from a button playing all noteblocks :) |
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khonkhortisan |
I believe turning on globalstep makes the noteblock turn on as many times as how many rules it has |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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Exio |
hi :P |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
