Time Nick Message 00:22 dysoco Weird, I'm trying the zipped build for Windows and it won't open Minetest: It says "Minetest stopped working" 00:22 dysoco W8 btw 00:24 Menche run it from a terminal and post the output 00:25 dysoco no output at all 00:25 dysoco I tried installing from the .exe and same result 00:25 Exio can you try any mingw build? 00:25 Menche you try running it from cmd? 00:26 Menche there should be at least some output 00:26 arsdragonfly dysoco is that an x86_64 cpu or an ARM one? 00:26 dysoco I said there is no output at all, already ran it from CMD :P 00:26 dysoco must be x86-64 00:26 dysoco The one that's at the top of http://minetest.net/download 00:26 Exio cat /proc/cpuinfo >:D 00:27 Menche did it make a debug.txt? 00:27 Exio dysoco: try with a mingw build 00:27 Exio (pilzadam's build, for example) 00:27 dysoco Menche, nope 00:27 dysoco Exio, let me try 00:29 dysoco Exio, yep, PilzAdam's build works fine 00:29 dysoco but the other one should work too, it's the "main one" 00:29 dysoco I will try it tomorrow in other PC 00:32 Exio ok 00:33 Exio the msvc build doesn't work but the mingw one does 00:33 Exio microsoft fail 00:34 dysoco I have tried to build Minetest with VS in the past 00:34 dysoco ... it obviously didn't work 00:35 dysoco nothing builds under VS 00:37 Exio the official build was compiled with vs 01:20 khonkhortisan Found the solution to the noteblock bug, that was a lot of work 01:35 MinetestBot GIT: khonkhortisan commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: mesecon:rules_link nil return rule 4f2604e01b 2013-06-10T18:29:40-07:00 http://git.io/gINACg 01:43 khonkhortisan VanessaE, ^ 02:11 NakedFury guys go watch E3 live streams 02:11 NakedFury go 04:40 arsdragonfly|pho sfan5 could you give me that cURL snippie again? 04:41 arsdragonfly I tried to compile cURL from source but it failed 04:48 ice__ hello? 04:48 [0gb_us] Iello! 04:48 [0gb_us] *Hello! 04:50 ice__ have you tried the monorail mod 04:50 ice__ I dont know how the stitches work 04:50 ice__ *switches 04:50 [0gb_us] Sorry, I have not tried it. 04:50 ice__ k 05:05 ice__ anyone else? 05:05 ice__ Actually 05:06 ice__ PilzAdam's carts are perfect 05:06 ice__ Except that they dont have switchers 05:06 ice__ Which I need 05:07 khonkhortisan they used to have switches 05:08 [0gb_us] To the old version! 05:17 khonkhortisan I want to represent a 3d rotation in lua, and be able to apply rotations to that rotation, and apply that rotation to a vector. How do I do that? 05:18 khonkhortisan And compare whether two rotations are the same (or normalize them) 05:20 khonkhortisan I don't want to reinvent the wheel/write geometric functions into commonlib 05:45 hmmmm man, people are crazy 05:45 hmmmm at least one person out there thinks they're going to find a quant with a math Ph.D. for $120k, in NYC 05:47 ch98 what was steel block called when modding? I have a very small change to my mod but I don't have minetest on here. 05:51 VanessaE khonkhortisan: updated and deployed. 05:53 VanessaE ch98: defautl:steelblock 05:53 VanessaE default:steelblock rather 05:54 khonkhortisan coatl:blockosteel 05:55 VanessaE but that's only in Quantal Quetzal ;) 05:55 khonkhortisan rejoining is lethal! 05:58 VanessaE khonkhortisan: protip: use fewer fonts and fewer sizes in your bug comments :) 05:59 khonkhortisan okay 06:03 VanessaE so, luacontrollers are safe to run on a server then? 06:56 VanessaE bbl 07:31 Calinou le me is getting random kernel panics when booting 09:02 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Corn on the Cob Day! :-) 11:16 rubenwardy Hi All! 11:18 rubenwardy spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94342#p94342 11:23 rubenwardy Hi 11:36 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30000 11:36 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 11:36 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 11:36 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (467ms) 12:13 rubenwardy SmugLeaf, wtf? 12:28 SmugLeaf wat 12:33 rubenwardy SmugLeaf: http://pastebin.com/tTBAPCnj 12:38 AntonBoch1244 Hello Everyone! 12:39 rubenwardy Hi 12:43 SmugLeaf oh 12:43 SmugLeaf I had joins off 12:43 SmugLeaf have 12:45 hoodedice Hello? 12:46 hoodedice Is there any way you can block out player name in multiplayer? 12:47 rubenwardy huh? 12:47 rubenwardy you mean ban? 12:47 rubenwardy oh 12:48 rubenwardy you mean so people can not see your name tag floating around? 12:48 hoodedice not ban 12:48 hoodedice haha 12:48 hoodedice name tag thingy 12:50 rubenwardy ok 12:50 rubenwardy completely gone, or only shown when they are close to the player? 12:51 hoodedice completely gone, preferrably 12:51 hoodedice If not possible, then close thingy 12:52 rubenwardy unlimited_player_transfer_distance = true 12:52 rubenwardy set to false 12:52 rubenwardy so unlimited_player_transfer_distance = false 12:52 hoodedice in what? 12:52 rubenwardy in minetest.cong 12:52 rubenwardy *.conf 12:52 hoodedice kk 12:52 hoodedice thanks a lot 12:53 rubenwardy more info: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L229 12:53 hoodedice ahha 12:53 hoodedice got it 12:53 hoodedice thanks again 13:14 sfan5 hi 14:20 rubenwardy Does "Chargement" mean "loading" (as in a game) in french? 14:23 rubenwardy Any one like BBC Merlin here? 14:24 NakedFury a show? 14:24 NakedFury tv show 14:25 rubenwardy tv show, yes 14:26 rubenwardy http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mjlxv 14:26 NakedFury I watch season one 14:26 rubenwardy There is a face book game for it now 14:26 rubenwardy It is quite bad, you do not even play as any of the main characters 14:28 KikaRz Hi! :D 14:30 rubenwardy Hi! 14:30 rubenwardy your ip is 217-129-172-163! 14:32 KikaRz ... 14:32 KikaRz Yours: 86-160-67-207 14:32 KikaRz -.- 14:32 KikaRz And really, that's not my IP. 14:32 KikaRz I'm in a public station 14:51 KikaRz Mine too 14:51 KikaRz make whois to me 14:51 KikaRz not CTCP WHOIS 14:51 KikaRz -.- 14:51 KikaRz lawl 14:51 KikaRz lawl 14:51 KikaRz lawl 14:52 KikaRz lawl! 14:52 MinetestBot john_minetest: To check multiple Ports please use Query 14:52 KikaRz hahahahah 14:53 KikaRz lol... 14:54 KikaRz This is so funny 14:54 KikaRz !up minetest.net 10000-30000 14:54 KikaRz KikaRz: Too many Ports specified 14:54 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 14:54 KikaRz 10 is the limit? 14:55 KikaRz Too funny 14:55 KikaRz I'm spamming MinetestBot in query 14:55 KikaRz <MinetestBot> minetest.net:30005 seems to be down 14:56 KikaRz <MinetestBot> minetest.net:30004 seems to be down 14:56 KikaRz <MinetestBot> minetest.net:30005 seems to be down 14:56 KikaRz Second Kick... 14:56 Calinou KikaRz: sed abuse is funnier 14:56 Calinou (Exio-approved) 14:57 KikaRz sed abuse? 14:57 Calinou :> 14:57 KikaRz ?? 14:57 KikaRz who's Exio? 14:57 Calinou some guy I know who contributes a bit to minetest 14:57 KikaRz Who? 14:58 Exio KikaRz: i'm exio4 14:58 Calinou he also plays on a minecraft server I play on 14:58 KikaRz Calinou, stop being off topic, Minecraft isn't permitted here. 14:58 Exio why not? 14:58 Calinou heh 14:58 Calinou minceraft! 14:59 KikaRz minceraft is better... 14:59 Exio what is wrong with minecraft 14:59 KikaRz Exio, stop being off topic, Minecraft isn't permitted here. 14:59 * Calinou is playing TF2 14:59 Exio ll 14:59 Exio +o 14:59 KikaRz Calinou, that's really butter than Minceraft.! 14:59 rubenwardy Thats like going to texas and asking what is wrong with black people 14:59 Calinou lol 15:00 KikaRz rubenwardy, Nope. 15:00 Exio rubenwardy: minetest started as a MC clone 15:00 rubenwardy yeah, I know 15:00 KikaRz This is going to Sweden and telling Notch, that he's a piece of crap that don't have imagination to create another game without being Infiniminer clone! 15:00 Exio and is somewhat one 15:00 rubenwardy I am joking 15:00 KikaRz And Minetest was created first than Minecraft. 15:00 Exio ok 15:00 Exio if you say so 15:00 KikaRz Yes, it was! 15:01 KikaRz We can say everyone! 15:01 Calinou no 15:01 Calinou minecraft: may 2009 15:01 NakedFury it was after MC 15:01 Calinou minetest: october 2010 15:01 KikaRz Calinou, nope... August 2010 15:01 Calinou I started playing MC in november 2010 and MT in july 2011 15:01 Calinou lol no 15:01 KikaRz lol 15:01 Calinou go ask see-fifty-five :P 15:01 KikaRz Calinou, go to see C55's plans. 15:02 KikaRz Minetest is way older than Minecraft! Minetest was in C55's mind after Minecraft infiltrating into C55's head. 15:03 KikaRz *after Notch infiltrating into C55's head. 15:03 KikaRz And, about C55, where is he? :/ 15:03 sfan5 !seen celeron55 15:03 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen celeron55 around. 15:03 KikaRz !seen celeron 15:04 KikaRz sfan5... ? 15:04 sfan5 <KikaRz> I'm spamming MinetestBot in query 15:04 KikaRz I was. 15:04 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen celeron55 around. 15:04 KikaRz I'm not anymore 15:04 KikaRz I was trying to do a test. 15:04 sfan5 "Do not abuse the bot" 15:04 KikaRz That's not a rule. 15:04 KikaRz That's a request. 15:04 sfan5 it is 15:05 rubenwardy !kick KikaRz 15:05 rubenwardy lol 15:05 Exio isn't common sense a rule 15:05 Exio ? 15:05 KikaRz Not always. 15:06 ch98 can someone test concrete mod so there is no error? 15:06 ch98 I updted it but could not test it without minetest 15:06 Exio what irc client? 15:06 Exio ch98: can't you run a VM? 15:07 ch98 what is that? 15:07 KikaRz And sfan5, where is that rule? 15:07 KikaRz And sfan5, where is that order/request? 15:07 sfan5 KikaRz: thats is common sense 15:08 KikaRz Kiwii =) 15:08 KikaRz I love that fruit 15:08 sfan5 if you got something, don't abuse it 15:08 KikaRz What sfan5? 15:09 KikaRz I saw one green one! 15:09 KikaRz That was fantastic. 15:09 KikaRz Oh wait... Kiwis are supposed to be green... 15:09 KikaRz Oh yea... They are green... Stupid mind. 15:09 ch98 If VM ment virtual machine, there is no ppc version 15:10 KikaRz john_minetest, my brother says that he saw one blue. 15:10 KikaRz well, not blue... purple 15:20 KikaRz Look here, a question 15:21 KikaRz A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? 15:21 KikaRz I prefer to ask, to a machine. 15:21 KikaRz If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. 15:22 KikaRz I think everyone froze when I've done those 2 paradoxes. 15:22 khonkhortisan He shaves half his face 15:22 KikaRz khonkhortisan, no answer. 15:23 khonkhortisan Yes, but not fully 15:23 KikaRz Because you don't know what kind of men he is. 15:23 KikaRz And what he does in his daily... 15:23 KikaRz And this one? If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. 15:23 khonkhortisan I'm assuming it's his decision whether to shave himself 15:24 KikaRz If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. 15:26 KikaRz Human: If this sentence is true, then Santa Claus exists. 15:26 KikaRz Dr. Romulon: So if not Santa Claus exists, then not this sentence is true. 15:28 KikaRz Hi Zeg9 15:28 KikaRz Been a long time 15:28 Zeg9 Hello 15:28 KikaRz http://nlp-addiction.com/chatbot/dr.romulon/ 15:28 KikaRz Too cool! 15:28 Jordach oops 15:29 KikaRz OMG 15:29 Calinou s/nlp/mlp 15:29 KikaRz khonkhortisan, your answer is: 15:29 KikaRz Human: A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? 15:29 KikaRz Dr. Romulon: When is a barber who not a man shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves? Suppose he does. 15:32 Vohveli < KikaRz> A barber (who is a man) shaves all and only those men who do not shave themselves. Does he shave himself? 15:32 Vohveli answer: you lie 15:32 Zeg9 Human: do you speak french? 15:32 Zeg9 Dr. Romulon: Oui. Je parle le français. 15:32 Zeg9 Human: vous parlez français ? 15:32 Zeg9 Dr. Romulon: Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that. 15:33 Zeg9 :( 15:33 khonkhortisan Hi ShadowBot! 15:33 KikaRz Zeg9 lawl 15:35 KikaRz ShadowBot! 15:35 KikaRz .up vanessae.mine.bz 15:37 Jordach uh oh 15:37 Jordach my bios is going crazy 15:38 KikaRz Human: I know you perhaps in my fantasies we knew each other 15:38 KikaRz Eliza: Your fantasies we knew each other ? 15:38 KikaRz Human: I know my fantasies we know each other 15:38 KikaRz Eliza: Why do you say your fantasies we know each other ? 15:39 khonkhortisan Eliza is dumb 15:39 khonkhortisan Why do you say I am dumb? 15:42 KikaRz Human: Elisa, you are dumb 15:42 KikaRz Eliza: Perhaps you would like to be dumb. 15:42 KikaRz Such a bitch 15:42 KikaRz Eliza: Lets discuss further why your fantasies we know each other. 15:43 KikaRz Stupid WINE 15:43 KikaRz he changed my screen resolution 15:48 KikaRz playing trackmania 15:50 Jordach Calinou, PM 15:52 KikaRz stupid wine 15:52 KikaRz now its laggy 15:57 KikaRz How i install NTFS3G? 16:01 Morrolan `package_manager correct_args ntfs-3g` 16:01 KikaRz ok 16:01 KikaRz but one more thing 16:01 KikaRz my pendrive, appears with some... 16:01 KikaRz .TRASH-1000 16:02 KikaRz and that folder is not disappearing 16:02 KikaRz I cant delete it 16:02 KikaRz And it got 2 GB, and just appears to have 1,9 GB 16:03 Morrolan Probably the difference between GB and GiB. 16:05 KikaRz ... 16:05 KikaRz Its GiB 16:06 Morrolan Manufacturers usually advertise the capacity as GB, while most (if not all) operating systems show it as GiB. 16:06 Calinou the inverse you mean 16:06 Morrolan No. 16:07 Morrolan It's more noticeable with 1TB HDDs, they show up as "only" ~970 GiB. 16:07 Morrolan Sorry, 930GiB it'd be. 16:07 KikaRz ... 16:07 KikaRz ok... 16:09 * Calinou 's SSD approves 16:09 Calinou 238 GB 16:10 Morrolan It'd be a tad less confusing if Windows' 'My Workplace' would use the 'GiB' suffix instead of 'GB' since, if I'm not mistaken, it shows the capacity as GiB. 16:10 Morrolan s/Workplace/Computer/ 16:10 Calinou MS doesn't think the people should hear about "gibs" 16:10 Morrolan Probably. :P 16:15 KikaRz What a stupid thing. 16:15 KikaRz .net Framework 4.5 has launched. 16:25 MarkTwain Hello everyone! 16:26 mitori PilzAdam, i tried once again. let me hear what you've got to say about this, new, edited, improved soundpack 16:26 mitori what's up 16:26 MarkTwain Hi 16:27 Jordach hey mitori 16:27 MarkTwain How do i set up a remote media server? 16:27 MarkTwain Do i separate all the textures and sounds? 16:28 mitori Jordach hey 16:32 Calinou MarkTwain: afaik no 16:32 Calinou MarkTwain: like a web server 16:32 Calinou tip: you can use dropbox 16:34 Calinou KikaRz: do you have trackmania 16:34 KikaRz Yes... 16:34 KikaRz But today its 99,9% bugged 16:34 KikaRz how I refresh X Server? 16:35 KikaRz It's totally bugged... Without cars, just lights... pics out of the place 16:35 Jordach is trackmania free btw 16:35 Calinou Jordach: the nations version, yes 16:36 Calinou but it's not free as in onpon4 >:o 16:36 Calinou :> 16:36 KikaRz onpon4? 16:36 Jordach nice 16:37 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=87998#p87998 16:37 Calinou pop corn 16:37 MarkTwain does the client download ALL of the media? 16:37 Calinou MarkTwain: of course it does, what do you think it is going to do with? 16:37 Calinou clients do not fap to media 16:38 MarkTwain Or does it request what the server has? 16:38 MarkTwain Because i have removed parts of mesecons but the textures are still there 16:39 MarkTwain Okay i have a folder with 6 MB in it 16:39 MarkTwain What do i do with it now? 16:40 MarkTwain And how much faster is this? 16:41 MarkTwain Calinou? 16:42 KikaRz Who here plays CS 2D? 16:43 MarkTwain nickspam^ 16:43 * Calinou just did 2nd in a trackmania race 16:43 VanessaE hi all. 16:43 Calinou 147 LP \o/ 16:44 Calinou hi VanessaE 16:44 Calinou MarkTwain: it depends on the remote media server's connection speed 16:44 Calinou it is usually at least 3× as fast 16:44 MarkTwain so it downloads all of it? 16:45 MarkTwain Even if i have a series of top gear on it? 16:45 Calinou no 16:45 Calinou only the mod textures and sounds 16:47 * Morrolan sighs 16:47 MarkTwain all mod textures and sounds? 16:47 Morrolan And I thought Minecraft users were illiterate. :P 16:48 MarkTwain Because when i connect to a server it seems like the client really is fapping to the media 16:49 Calinou lol 16:49 Calinou MarkTwain: don't you have a very slow connection anyway? 16:49 MarkTwain My conection is fine 16:50 MarkTwain *Connection 16:50 MarkTwain Which .py do i open in MCEdit? 16:50 MarkTwain config or setup? 16:50 Calinou what? 16:50 Calinou I don't know 16:52 MarkTwain so how do i upload to dropbox? Do i need an account? 16:53 thefamilygrog66 howd folks 16:53 Calinou hi 16:53 thefamilygrog66 *howdy even 16:53 Calinou MarkTwain: yes you do 16:53 Calinou you just drag and drop or use the dropbox program 16:53 MarkTwain okay 16:53 VanessaE is it possible to prevent the engine from using entity collision? 16:54 Calinou edit the code? :P 16:54 VanessaE I'm having an issue with pipeworks that may be due to this, and I need to inform Nore of how (generally) to avoid it. 16:55 MarkTwain lol i had an account already 16:55 MarkTwain now what? 16:55 Exio [12:09:43] If VM ment virtual machine, there is no ppc version 16:55 Exio ch98: qemu 16:56 Exio works everywhere, emulates everything 16:58 VanessaE Calinou: so.. how would it be done? 16:58 VanessaE obviously the spawned objects should be selectable, but not collide-able. 16:59 Calinou you can disable entity collision per-entity with lua already 16:59 Calinou (can you? I hope so ;_;) 16:59 VanessaE physical=true/false? 16:59 khonkhortisan then it falls through the ground 16:59 thefamilygrog66 into the void... 16:59 Exio there is no void 16:59 thefamilygrog66 figuratively speaking 16:59 khonkhortisan just artifacts down there 17:00 khonkhortisan sky blue-colored pixels in pitch blackness 17:00 thefamilygrog66 cool! 17:01 VanessaE khonkhortisan: come to where I am on the server 17:02 MarkTwain 12 mins 1.89 MB 17:02 MarkTwain 739 files 17:03 Calinou MarkTwain must be doing "ls pron_folder" 17:03 Calinou :> 17:03 MarkTwain ls 17:03 MarkTwain ? 17:03 khonkhortisan hahaha 17:03 khonkhortisan you no know ls? 17:03 MarkTwain I think it'll be a lot more than 1 MB 17:04 khonkhortisan come to think of it, I don't know what ls stands for 17:04 MarkTwain ln -s /path/to/file ~/Desktop 17:04 MarkTwain ? 17:04 khonkhortisan ah, list 17:04 MarkTwain oh 17:04 MarkTwain Ive been using tree lol 17:05 khonkhortisan tree looks nicer 17:05 MarkTwain ls is neater 17:05 MarkTwain for less files 17:05 MarkTwain lol ive taken the hard way for soo many things lol 17:05 MarkTwain wait.. 17:05 khonkhortisan ls gives you a table 17:06 khonkhortisan The longer the names are, the less columns 17:06 MarkTwain How can i get all the mods i have installed? 17:06 MarkTwain in a file 17:06 MarkTwain to upload 17:06 VanessaE khonkhortisan: *poke* 17:06 khonkhortisan FPS=3 frozen window, not refreshing the frame 17:06 VanessaE ohh 17:07 khonkhortisan depends on whether you want to count modpacks as one mod, and whether you added any mods in that modpack 17:07 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no worries, I'll just take a screenshot 17:08 khonkhortisan just enable all your mods for the world, then process that file 17:09 MarkTwain After i added all the media files, can i add more after when i add new mods? 17:09 MarkTwain I think it would be better if it requested files rather that getting all of them 17:11 MarkTwain Calinou, how can i set it out nicely and not spam my dropbox folder? 17:11 MarkTwain like a true HTTPServer 17:12 Calinou set it out nicely? 17:12 Calinou you can create a directory for all your mod files 17:12 MarkTwain okay 17:12 MarkTwain and il upload mods aswell... 17:12 Calinou khonkhortisan: fun fact: RMS wrote the "ls" command 17:12 * Jordach builds stealth fighter in blender 17:12 Exio did you rtfm that Calinou? 17:12 * Calinou saps Jordach's stealth fighter 17:12 Calinou Exio: yeah 17:12 Exio :P 17:13 MarkTwain The thing is: homedecor signs and digiline monitor share the same textures 17:14 Jordach Calinou, its only subdivided to a 4^3 cube 17:14 Calinou replace the textures in any order then 17:14 thefamilygrog66 Would any forum moderators mind moving this to mod releases, please? 17:14 thefamilygrog66 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6214 17:15 Jordach Calinou, my last model looked like an arwing 17:16 Calinou thefamilygrog66: done 17:16 MarkTwain whole game: 10-15 sec, media files: 12 min 17:16 Calinou 2 minute delay only :D 17:16 thefamilygrog66 Thanks, Calinou 17:16 Calinou np 17:20 MarkTwain Everyone: post name of the server you are on 17:21 thefamilygrog66 none of the above 17:22 Calinou none, playing trackmania right now 17:46 ShadowNinja Does Lua have some base64 conversion functions? 17:46 ShadowNinja (For adding SASL authentication to the IRC mod) 17:47 Calinou https://startpage.com/do/search?q=Lua+base64+conversion+functions 17:49 ShadowNinja So no. But I can add my own. 17:50 ShadowNinja Hmmm, maybe LuaSocket has them... 18:04 sfan5 lawl, the linux kernel on my first core somehow broke because I used "sudo minicom --device /dev/ttyprintk" and now /bin/login is broken 18:06 Calinou "on my first core"? 18:11 sfan5 Calinou: it displayed a kernel oops screen but web browser and many other things were still working 18:12 sfan5 ...probably it wasn't the first core 18:14 * Calinou gets random kernel panics when booting or logging in 18:14 Calinou quite rare, but it happens 18:16 Jordach Calinou, MK2: http://imgur.com/a/llGxz 18:17 Jordach (the right wing is strange because blender's mirror edit *still* doesnt work properly 18:17 Jordach ) 18:19 Exio Calinou: fixyourhardware 18:19 Exio if a kernel panic happens randomly; check where is the problem :P 18:19 Jordach or not use linux 18:20 Exio memtest, benchmarks, etc 18:20 Exio Jordach: what do you suggest? a BSOD? 18:20 Jordach Exio, none on this vista tower 18:20 Exio did you even get a kernel panic in that tower, too? 18:20 Jordach nope and nope 18:20 Jordach never had one 18:20 Jordach with 3.2 18:20 Exio with HW problems windowsis even worse than linux for crashing 18:20 Exio windows is * 18:21 Jordach Exio, my hardware is fine, except for the dying PSU 18:21 Calinou Exio: the RAM is fine 18:21 Calinou this is probably because of 13.04 kernel ;-; 18:21 Exio Calinou: wat 18:21 Calinou heard it was a known bug 18:21 Exio ah 18:21 * Exio uses 3.nine 18:21 Calinou apparently ubutnu doesn't like fast SSDs 18:21 Calinou --reddit 18:22 Exio .something :D 18:22 Calinou Exio: no, windows handles them better 18:22 Calinou graphic driver crash doesn't put you a black screen forcing you to poweroff your PC 18:23 Jordach linux is really good 18:23 Exio if your graphic driver crashes, then something is really wrong 18:23 Jordach for cross platform devs 18:24 Exio if you don't want to play the lastest FPS around, it is ok too 18:24 Jordach yeah 18:24 Jordach OMFG 18:24 Calinou TIL crysis 3, BF3 and CoD are all good games 18:24 Jordach someone is using libtorrent 18:25 Exio Calinou: i said lastest 18:25 Calinou these are lastest 18:25 Exio Jordach: so what 18:25 Calinou it's latest btw :P 18:25 Exio wtf 18:25 Exio my spelling.so threw a segfault 18:25 Exio Calinou: latest != good ;P 18:27 Calinou that was sarcasm :P 18:39 Jordach my fucking luck: http://i.imgur.com/oln7K39.png 18:39 Jordach im seeding myself 18:42 thexyz Jordach: what's that? µtorrent? 18:42 Jordach yus 18:42 Jordach 3.0 18:42 Jordach no ads :> 18:43 thexyz enjoy your NSA surveillance 18:43 Jordach haha 18:43 Jordach <- doesnt give one fuck 18:43 thexyz where do you live? 18:43 Jordach UK 18:43 Jordach (not raine) 18:44 Jordach thing is, our own government torrents shit 18:44 thexyz lol 18:44 Jordach (its a legal safe haven here!) 18:44 Jordach up until 2015 18:44 thexyz anyway, https://twitter.com/_nothingtohide 18:45 Jordach thexyz, i see a modern day revolution coming 18:46 Jordach look at the recent libyan conflict and that other one which i cant remember the name for 18:47 Jordach the US will be crushed and major banks / corporate multi-nationals destroyed 18:47 thexyz okay 18:47 Jordach (actually, most 1st world countries will be crushed) 18:48 Jordach london riots? the stabbing of the british soldier? im seeing war brewing 18:48 thexyz I don't but I'm not into politics 18:49 Jordach thexyz, NSA spies are pushing the limits of human rights 18:49 Jordach the US will be sanctioned 18:57 thexyz okay 19:02 Jordach i once had an exil capcha 19:02 Jordach evil* 19:02 Jordach because it was in fuckin greek 19:03 khonkhortisan then type it in fuckin greek 19:09 BlockMen hi 19:12 [0gb_us] Hello! 19:12 * khonkhortisan is now known as NodeMan 19:12 Calinou hi 19:12 Calinou khonkhortisan, fake 19:12 Jordach PilzAdam, moonflower was merged 19:13 [0gb_us] NodeMan to the rescue! 19:13 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 19:13 * Calinou backstabs NodeMan 19:14 * Jordach saps Calinou 19:14 Calinou you cannot sap people 19:14 Calinou this is not BF3 19:14 khonkhortisan 2. Hit with a bludgeon or club. 19:14 * Jordach gives Calinou a good de-fibbing 19:15 Jordach that sounds real wrong :) 19:15 ShadowNinja How do you escape '#' in minetest.conf? \#? "#string"? 19:15 khonkhortisan minetest.escape...() 19:15 khonkhortisan nevermind 19:15 Calinou ShadowBot, not sure if possible 19:16 Calinou put the string between quotes? 19:16 khonkhortisan Yeah me neither, ShadowBot 19:16 Calinou me NETHER 19:16 khonkhortisan I believe my tab complete is ordered by last spoke 19:16 Jordach me NETHER 19:16 Jordach dammit Calinou 19:19 * Jordach considers changing FB image to :trollface: 19:28 Calinou do that for your gravatar and minetest forum avatar 19:29 Calinou and on april 1st, change both to a pony of your choice. 19:29 Calinou :trollface: 19:30 Jordach Calinou, even better# 19:30 Jordach have a gif that loops over 20 seconds 19:30 Jordach so the eyes on my avatar change 19:31 Jordach its a windup, but funny 19:35 Jordach i want a chromebook sooo bad 19:35 Calinou lol, chromebook 19:35 Calinou people want celerons now? 19:35 Jordach Calinou, i want the Pixel 19:36 [0gb_us] Meh. From what I hear, a Chromebook would be an awful fit for me. Though they are useful to a lot of people. 19:36 Jordach (in fact i'd remove the Panel and convert it to a monitor :) ) 19:36 Calinou >2880×1800 in small laptop 19:36 Calinou >still no WQHD in 24" 19:36 Calinou kay 19:36 [0gb_us] They don't use local applications, only web applications. No Minetest! 19:37 Calinou you can install linux 19:37 Jordach [0gb_us], flash SSD, install Ubuntu 19:37 Jordach or debian 7 if in feeling lucky 19:37 Jordach im* 19:38 [0gb_us] The hardware isn't set up for normal operating systems. In both hardware and software, it's built as only a web browser. 19:39 [0gb_us] Also, Chrome OS is GNU/Linux, but with a lot of stuff stripped out, and other stuff more specialized. 19:40 Calinou it is 19:40 Calinou but it isn't powerful 19:40 [0gb_us] No, but neither is the hardware on those things. Fast, but weak. 19:42 Jordach just like your mother 19:43 Jordach > Fast, but weak 19:43 Jordach >:D 19:43 [0gb_us] That is a good point. Fast, but weak minded. 19:43 Jordach thats what she said 19:44 [0gb_us] No, that's what I said about her ... weren't you paying attention? 19:46 Jordach ffs 19:46 Jordach my download folder after clearing 1 wk later: 500mb 19:46 [0gb_us] Personally, I want one of those Alienware laptops. They're supposed to be as least as powerful as desktop computers, and if you get the right ones, they come with GNU/Linux. 19:46 Jordach Alienware == Dell 19:46 Jordach your expecting linux, LOL 19:47 Jordach all of them come with UEFI and Windows 8 19:47 [0gb_us] Jordach, http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/ 19:48 [0gb_us] Dell hide the Ubuntu ones from being reached from the main site. But with a link, they DO exist. 19:48 [0gb_us] *Hides 19:49 * Jordach drools 19:49 Calinou ^ 19:49 Calinou Jordach, all modern mobos have UEFI 19:49 Jordach its like Calinou's wet dream 19:49 Calinou since sandy bridge/bulldozer 19:49 Calinou no u 19:50 Jordach Calinou, i was talking about the alienware 19:50 Calinou [0gb_us], alienware is stupid 19:50 Calinou expensive stuff with bad performance 19:50 Calinou [0gb_us], no laptop can beat a desktop 19:50 Jordach i'd rather but a intel xeon 19:50 Jordach buy* 19:50 [0gb_us] Calinou, okay, what would you suggest? Requirements: must be moble, must be powerful, must NOT come with Windows. 19:50 Calinou octacore xeon + quad SLI of titans 19:50 Jordach and use THAT for gaming 19:51 Calinou [0gb_us], clevo laptops 19:51 [0gb_us] !g clevo 19:51 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.clevo.com.tw/ 19:51 Calinou they are very customisable, and come without an OS 19:51 Calinou you can even buy them without RAM or storage 19:51 Jordach :phoronix rolleyes: 19:51 Calinou :phoronix happy face: 19:51 [0gb_us] Without an OS is fine. I don't mind installing myself, I just mind paying for WIndows. 19:52 Jordach MOFA Series 19:52 Jordach Mother of Fucking Awesome 19:53 Calinou [0gb_us], by the way, you do not want a dedicated graphics card today 19:53 Calinou switchable graphics is a PITA 19:53 [0gb_us] THe links on their site are malformed, making it hard to navigate. ("http://www/en/products/prodinfo.asp?productid=466") I'll look into it when I'm less pressed for time. 19:53 Calinou really, just get an IGP 19:53 Calinou oh 19:54 * Jordach is building a space station on an empty map 19:55 * Calinou just beat graphitemaster at chess 19:55 Calinou won with time \o/ 19:55 Jordach he'll wax his nether soon 19:55 Jordach we need a YT link spammer 19:55 ShadowNinja NickServ and SASL authentication in the IRC mod now. :-) new_LuaIRC branch. Add it to your server and join my IRC network. :-) 19:56 Calinou Jordach, do it 19:56 [0gb_us] I don't know what to build. I need to finish building my game before I know what I have to work with while building in-game. 19:56 Calinou PilzAdam will probably help too, since he wrote the nether mod 19:56 PilzAdam hm? 19:56 Jordach Calinou, mese waxing strips 19:56 Jordach but they require minetest_game pull 169 ;) 19:57 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You should add it to your server. 19:57 [0gb_us] Okay, so dedicated graphics cards are bad? 19:57 Calinou [0gb_us], yeah 19:57 [0gb_us] Okay. Got it. 19:57 Calinou what games do you want to play, anyway? 19:57 Jordach > Minetest 19:57 Jordach > Huge strainer of Lappies 19:57 Calinou Jordach, no, I'd bet on minecraft 19:57 Jordach 19:57 Calinou :-) 19:58 [0gb_us] One I bought but don't yet have the resources to play is Tiny and Big in Grandpa's Leftovers. It's stated to be very resource intensive, but I got it as part of a bundle. I'd like to be able to try it. 19:59 Jordach Calinou, if i bought a few dedicated BTC mining machines you can have some 19:59 [0gb_us] Minecraft? What about Minecraft? Minetest has major issues, but Minecraft is beyond redeemable. 19:59 Jordach (Actual BTC) 19:59 Calinou meh, no :> 19:59 Jordach one BTC = 80 Euro 19:59 Calinou [0gb_us], oh 19:59 Calinou Jordach, thought it was 12 euros 20:00 Jordach its actually pricey over here 20:00 * Calinou takes 5.5 BTC and buys a 770 with that 20:00 Calinou too bad you can't buy directly with BTC :P 20:00 Jordach how awesome shopping could be if we used bitcoin 20:00 Jordach no BTC, no product 20:00 Jordach you make an order: it waits until paid off 20:01 [0gb_us] The Humble Bundle sells using Bitcoins as a payment option. 20:01 Jordach Calinou, 5600BTC if i have a longer beard than you 20:01 Jordach <- shouldnt be betting BTC 20:02 KikaRz Guys, it's normal, at 1280x768, when I put my mouse out of screen, it slides? 20:02 khonkhortisan it is normal vs is it normal 20:02 KikaRz ... 20:02 KikaRz but is it or not? 20:03 khonkhortisan sorta 20:03 KikaRz khonkhortisan, you have teamviewer? 20:03 KikaRz i want to show you '-' 20:03 khonkhortisan You can move your mouse out of the screen in the time it takes minetest to read the distance it moved and recenter 20:03 PilzAdam MinetestBot, Y U NO OP? 20:03 khonkhortisan !op MinetestBot 20:03 Jordach i shot MinetestBot's NickServ 20:03 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, op MinetestBot 20:04 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: op MinetestBot 20:04 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op MinetestBot 20:04 KikaRz lol. 20:04 KikaRz Cool... 20:04 KikaRz ShadowBot, op sfan5 20:04 KikaRz ShadowBot: op sfan5 20:05 KikaRz Not working :C 20:05 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: If you register with ShadowBot I can give you the #minetest,op capability. 20:05 PilzAdam and how do I do that? 20:05 KikaRz Registering '-' 20:05 ShadowNinja KikaRz: It ignores everyone but me when MinetestBot is around. 20:05 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: /msg ShadowBot help register 20:06 * khonkhortisan drops blue rice 20:06 Jordach does ShadowBot execute commands as python shell 20:06 ShadowNinja But you will have to send the cammands in a PM because of the ignore. 20:06 ShadowNinja No. 20:06 khonkhortisan eew they're spinning 20:06 Jordach commands* 20:07 KikaRz This (1 more message) 20:07 KikaRz lawl 20:08 KikaRz u_u' 20:08 KikaRz op #minetest sfan5 20:08 KikaRz Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 20:09 KikaRz OldCoder... is it really you? 20:09 KikaRz *w* 20:10 thexyz "register with shadowbot" 20:10 thexyz oh fuck 20:10 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, op PilzAdam 20:10 PilzAdam damn 20:10 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op PilzAdam 20:11 KikaRz lawl 20:12 KikaRz * Eliza... Eliza... Eliza... 20:12 KikaRz > Ahh. Please continue... 20:12 fgro_ Vanessa? 20:12 thexyz I still think this idea with bots having OP status is very stupid 20:12 Calinou by the way, we could remove ChanServ 20:12 Calinou we don't need it 20:12 KikaRz VanessaE, she's seeing you. 20:12 Calinou we have enough idlers :) 20:12 KikaRz * Eliza... Eliza... Eliza... 20:12 KikaRz > Ahh. Please continue... 20:13 fgro_ oh well soko idles here ... 20:13 KikaRz * Vanessa Ezekowitz 20:13 KikaRz > I see. 20:13 KikaRz To see the continue of this chat, Query me :) 20:14 KikaRz Or just do /msg KikaRz Lonely 20:14 fgro_ one question to the developers of minetest . can you confirm that the announcement part of the server needs to be revised? 20:14 khonkhortisan ChanServ MinetestBot ShadowBot NickServ 20:15 thexyz fgro_: why? 20:15 fgro_ because the announcement kills my firewall sessions 20:16 fgro_ i have a juniper device running and i was wondering why my device got red ... the problem is, the announcement server makes always a new session in a short time period 20:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/F5K2V0v.png 20:16 KikaRz I'll paste my talking show :) 20:16 Jordach all of this is hand built (i dont like WE(] 20:18 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v 20:18 KikaRz That's how I feel 20:18 fgro_ i guss there is a missiing quit udp session command 20:18 KikaRz * Me 20:18 KikaRz > Eliza 20:19 fgro_ lets say, the firewall can handle 8000 sessions ... as i was reading the logs and saw 6000 sessions open i was a bit shoked 20:19 KikaRz Stupid computer. 20:19 KikaRz Human: 3 plus 100000000000000000000000000000 minus 2 times 10 divided by 10 times 1000 20:19 KikaRz MathBot: Yes, of course... 3 and 100000000000000000000000000000 minus 2 times 10 divided by 10 times 1000 is definately 1e+29 20:19 KikaRz 1e+29... 20:19 thexyz fgro_: I guess you should talk with proller about it 20:19 fgro_ and the session originated most from minetest master announcement server ip 20:20 thexyz fgro_: in #minetest-dev probably 20:20 fgro_ who is proller? 20:20 proller moo 20:20 fgro_ you 20:20 fgro_ ,-) 20:20 Calinou ^ missing eye 20:20 fgro_ O_o 20:21 fgro_ proller ... can we take over this theme? 20:21 KikaRz Big Chat about my Friendship... :( 20:21 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v 20:21 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v 20:21 proller maybe stupid firewall? 20:21 fgro_ hmmm juniper ssg20 device .... stupid? 20:22 fgro_ lmao 20:22 fgro_ i guess everyone should havea cisco device instead a simple juniper firewall 20:22 fgro_ its not a firewall problem 20:23 proller if no sesion on thexyz server - its your problem 20:23 Calinou lol, cisco 20:23 OldCoder KikaRz, Yes 20:23 Calinou fgro_, this would kill pron 20:24 OldCoder Last time I checked I was myself 20:24 Calinou KikaRz, this is worse than most MLP fanfics 20:24 KikaRz OldCoder, you like my story? 20:24 Calinou :| 20:24 fgro_ give me an understanding what the announcement part exactly does, i think the annoucement server starts a new request and does not care about an exisiting session 20:24 KikaRz Calinou, you like my story? 20:24 OldCoder KikaRz, Reviewing... just got here 20:24 Calinou meh 20:24 OldCoder What story? 20:24 proller fgro_, [probably] jiniper think about open connections. when they closed 20:25 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: It will ignore you in the channel, lemme give you the capagility. 20:25 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/Hjpemu3v 20:25 OldCoder R 20:25 Calinou E 20:25 proller fgro_, can you show info about sessions? 20:26 fgro_ i could show you a log extract of the alarm, but i guess this does not really help much 20:26 OldCoder KikaRz, It's a simple conversation. More of an interesting fragment than a full story. Call it a character sketch. 20:26 sfan5 good night 20:26 OldCoder sfan5, NIght 20:26 Calinou night 20:26 sfan5 :D 20:27 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op PilzAdam 20:27 fgro_ furthermore i like o understand why the sessions (old ones) kept open, while regular clients they connect to the server and disconnect terminates their session also 20:27 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: It will ignore you in the channel while MinetestBot is around. 20:27 PilzAdam ok 20:27 ShadowNinja Use a PM. 20:28 ShadowNinja (It avoids conflicts with MinetestBot resulting in duplicated responses) 20:28 proller fgro_, show src-dst ports 20:28 proller 3-5 20:30 fgro_ hm is this command be used by cisco? 20:30 KikaRz OldCoder, this bot can see what I feel 20:34 OldCoder KikaRz, hm? 20:34 fgro_ so i have he debug flow 20:34 fgro_ what you like to see 20:34 proller flow 8) 20:35 fgro_ whats behind flow 8 20:35 proller 8) == 8-) 20:36 proller show something 20:36 fgro_ flow session id 7342 20:36 fgro_ flow_main_body_vector in ifp bgroup0 out ifp N/A 20:36 fgro_ flow vector index 0x1, vector addr 0x20f6a18, orig vector 0x20f6a18 20:36 fgro_ post addr xlation: 80.152.199.113->176.9.122.10. 20:36 fgro_ send out through normal path 20:36 fgro_ flow_ip_send: 0000:80.152.199.113->176.9.122.10,17 => ethernet0/0(47) flag 0x0, vlan 0 20:37 KikaRz what OldCoder ? 20:37 OldCoder I wasn't clear about how the bot knows what you feel 20:37 proller fgro_, its tcp or udp? 20:37 proller jr icmp 20:37 proller or 20:38 fgro_ this is ud 20:38 fgro_ udp, forwarding udp 30000 20:39 * Calinou awards xavier108 "most useless advice" prize 20:39 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94390#p94390 20:39 fgro_ flow session id 7966 20:40 proller udp session? 20:40 thexyz Calinou: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6238 20:41 fgro_ UDP src port: 0-65535, dst port: 30001-30001 20:41 fgro_ i dont forward tcp 20:41 fgro_ i forward udp ports to internal server 20:42 Calinou thexyz, ._. 20:42 proller try find something like session timeout 20:43 Calinou while we're about world creation, it would be nice if worlds were automagically named when they have no name 20:43 Calinou eg. world9770 20:43 Calinou 4 random numbers :p 20:45 thexyz Calinou: come to think about it, why not generate random user names made from several words? 20:46 [0gb_us] 13:44:01: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 20:46 [0gb_us] 13:44:01: ERROR[main]: /home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/init.lua: 20:46 [0gb_us] 13:44:01: ERROR[main]: /home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/init.lua:31: module 'irc' not found: 20:46 [0gb_us] 13:44:01: ERROR[main]: no field package.preload['irc'] 20:46 [0gb_us] 13:44:01: ERROR[main]: no file '/home/us_0gb/minetest-0.4.7/bin/../mods/irc/irc/init.lua' 20:47 Calinou http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81238-Xonotic-0-7-Has-New-Compiler-Game-Features&p=335643#post335643 20:47 Calinou \o/ 20:48 Calinou thexyz, no sarcasm please 20:48 Calinou the thing I suggested is serious, and would be useful to some modders 20:49 thexyz that's no sarcasm though 20:49 thexyz guess it's just a bad idea then 20:49 fgro_ nothing found 20:50 Calinou ah, I read it as sarcasm 20:51 Calinou would be funny :P 20:51 Exio [16:38:46] <[0gb_us]> The hardware isn't set up for normal operating systems. In both hardware and software, it's built as only a web browser. 20:52 Exio why not 20:54 Calinou it is 20:54 Calinou but that's 0gb_us reasoning 20:54 Calinou conspiracy theory :P 21:02 KikaRz Should I start making one mod that contains 20 blocks? 21:02 KikaRz well, I got one idea for a mod 21:02 KikaRz :) 21:03 KikaRz well, contains quite more than 20 blocks 21:03 KikaRz maybe... 40 blocks... 20 colors, 40 mixtures. 21:03 KikaRz 20 colors, 20 mixtures 21:05 Calinou 20 blocks of what? 21:05 KikaRz secret. 21:05 KikaRz well... it must cost a bit of media... 21:05 KikaRz not too much '-' 21:05 PilzAdam KikaRz, I have the feeling that you see this channel as your diary 21:05 PilzAdam well, it isnt 21:06 KikaRz Yes it is. 21:06 KikaRz Not only imine 21:06 KikaRz everyone's diary. 21:06 Calinou it also is MinetestBot's diary, PilzAdam 21:06 KikaRz Yea Pilz. 21:06 Calinou night 21:07 KikaRz VanessaE #git 21:21 * VanessaE sighs 21:21 Uberi KikaRz: a file listing patterns of paths to ignore 21:22 Uberi (for Git, of course) 21:22 VanessaE hi all 21:22 Uberi hey VanessaE 21:22 Warr1024 hi VanessaE 21:22 * VanessaE just lost an argument with an old motherboard :( 21:22 Warr1024 KikaRz: doesn't github have some help pages on this stuff? 21:22 PilzAdam Warr1024, problem is: KikaRz cant read manuals 21:22 Uberi VanessaE: send it to bed without dinner! 21:23 KikaRz IDK 21:23 KikaRz PilzAdam, shut up. 21:23 VanessaE Uberi: I just sent it into a plastic bag to be deposited into the nearest trash bin :-/ 21:23 VanessaE (I was gonna move my MT server to it) 21:23 Uberi a real disciplinarian, you are 21:25 mitori PilzAdam, should i do a pull request? or it's fine to leave it as it is 21:25 PilzAdam mitori, just point me to the commit 21:26 mitori https://github.com/mito551/minetest_game/commit/2ee54a415c18d9364cfbf683a74897c719a3e78f 21:27 Uberi PilzAdam: would you say it's a good time to change over to the new scriptapi stuff for established mods? I mean the minetest.env -> minetest. stuff 21:29 thexyz we should update the wiki as well 21:31 PilzAdam Uberi, I will upgrade my mods soon 21:31 PilzAdam but only the ones that are incompatible with 0.4.6 21:32 Uberi so the old way will be supported for the forseeable future, yes? 21:32 PilzAdam it will be supported like forever 21:32 Uberi awesome 21:32 PilzAdam mitori, wow! aweseome! definitely better 21:33 mitori thank you 21:33 Warr1024 is there some kind of "minimum minetest version required" feature in the script api anywhere? 21:33 mitori will you add this? I have done a pull request 21:33 PilzAdam yes, I am willing to merge them 21:33 Uberi yes, but you need to code it yourself 21:33 Uberi Warr1024: minetest.get_version(), I believe 21:33 Warr1024 ah, I see 21:34 mitori PilzAdam you can't imagine how happy i am to hear (read) this :D 21:35 PilzAdam two little suggestions, thoug: 1) there is one dig_crumbly that is higher than the others; make it a bit less high 2) the place_node sounds seem to fit best for crumbly nodes; maybe create a different for hard nodes? again, this are _minor_ suggestions; you dont have to change it 21:36 Uberi I love the choppy dig sounds 21:37 mitori "maybe create a different for hard nodes" how would I do that 21:38 mitori in terms of code 21:39 PilzAdam table.dug = table.dug or {name="default_dug_node_hard", gain=1.0} in default.node_sound_stone_defaults() and wood_defaults() 21:39 mitori ... 21:39 mitori where do I find it? 21:39 PilzAdam functions.lua in default/ 21:40 mitori so that's more about your stuff 21:40 PilzAdam hm? 21:40 NakedFury I have been adding new sounds for my version but I dont know how to add diferent sounds for the different type of stairs since they are not done in a normal way 21:40 mitori i mean that it's up to you to modify it 21:41 PilzAdam you can modfiy that in your commit, of course 21:41 mitori it's not minetest_game, is it? 21:41 PilzAdam it is 21:41 mitori ohhhhh. alright. sorry. my bad 21:41 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L18 21:42 mitori i already did the first suggestion :D 21:43 PilzAdam also, dirt has no walking sound currently (line 28), you can create one if you want 21:44 NakedFury How would you go about adding wood and dirt walking sounds when going on their slabs and stair versions? 21:44 PilzAdam NakedFury, stairs/init.lua line 210 <- is that what you mean? 21:45 NakedFury I mean the way the are done in stairs plus 21:45 PilzAdam I dont know about stairs plus, sry 21:45 NakedFury its no a simple register_node for each version 21:46 PilzAdam in minetest_game you pass a sound table to register_stair_and_slab() 21:46 mitori well, you could just define a new table 21:46 NakedFury im not very good at it 21:47 PilzAdam i already did the first suggestion :D <- can you commit? 21:47 NakedFury I found good sounds here: http://www.freesound.org/ then I just cut them into parts to be played 21:49 mitori i'm already finished with the second, so it'll all be there in a minute 21:49 PilzAdam nice! 21:50 mitori seems like it's done 21:50 mitori i commited it in my fork and there is a pull request 21:50 PilzAdam yep, got it 21:51 PilzAdam do you agree decreasing the gain of gravel to 0.2? 21:51 PilzAdam *of gravel footsteps 21:52 mitori yeah, a sec. 21:52 PilzAdam I have already done it 21:53 mitori oh ok 21:53 mitori sure :D 21:56 PilzAdam hmmm.. isnt the place_hard a bit too gravel-ish? 21:58 mitori the second one? 21:59 PilzAdam both, I would expect them to be more "clean" like the dig_cracky 22:00 mitori oh okay. it was a lot of... changing the original sound. be right there 22:00 mitori but i agree with you on that one :D 22:03 PilzAdam the license is WTFPL? 22:04 Uberi uh, is anyone else having trouble connecting to the forums? 22:04 Uberi pings are timing out too 22:04 PilzAdam Uberi, nope 22:05 Uberi hmm, that's strange 22:12 mitori which license does "do whatever the fuck you want as long as you give me (at least some kind of) credit?" 22:12 PilzAdam CC BY-SA 22:14 mitori that's what I thought. 22:15 bdjnk Why include SA 22:15 bdjnk ? 22:15 bdjnk That's not do whatever you want... 22:15 FreeFull Or some variant of the BSD license 22:16 mitori well, i like cc. and SA sounds nice 22:16 mitori so, CC BY-SA. i don't mind deviations ;) 22:17 PilzAdam bdjnk, that would allow others to re-share it as a different license, so a 3rd person doesnt have to give credit to mitori 22:17 mitori oh wow. thank you. i'm commiting all the changes right now. 22:19 bdjnk Well, maybe I don't get how it works. I just read the simple page http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US 22:19 bdjnk But I'm no lawyer. 22:19 PilzAdam I am neither 22:20 Uberi for Minetest, you are best off with anything up to a NC sharealike 22:21 mitori bdjnk look, if i go with just CC BY that means I 22:21 PilzAdam well, to get it in minetest_game CC BY-SA is the highest possible 22:22 bdjnk Highest possible? 22:22 mitori that means that it would be distributed once with attribution to me. but then, someone may change the license of some kind of deviations, which would no longer point to me 22:22 Uberi it's GPL isn't it? sharealike and nc is already part of the GPL 22:23 PilzAdam Uberi, first of all, Minetests code is LGPL; Minetests media is CC BY-SA, and -ND is not compatible with that one 22:23 mitori and SA forbids to distribute it with other licenses. 22:23 Uberi ah, LGPL 22:23 mitori alright guys. PilzAdam, waiting to see my commit, bdjnk, good luck with figuring that stuff out. good night, all 22:24 PilzAdam and LGPL allows it to use the program in a commercial sowtware, as long as its linked as a seperate libary 22:31 PilzAdam mitori, I made the place_hard sounds a bit louder 22:32 PilzAdam VanessaE (and others), can you test https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/sounds_mito2 ? 22:53 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, way too quiet now 22:54 VanessaE and the walking sound sounds like someone's rubbing something on the microphone 22:54 VanessaE all the other sounds such as sheep are LOOOOUUUUDDD by comparison 22:54 VanessaE did you remember to normalize your audio files to -3dB first? 22:56 PilzAdam how do you do that in audacity? 22:56 VanessaE diggin at leaves sounds like "tshh tssh tssh" sometimes, and other times it sounds like something tapping at a piece of wood in a large room 22:56 VanessaE in the Effects menu, "Normalize" 22:57 VanessaE digging stone sounds like a drum beat almost 22:57 VanessaE (the "you just dug it" sound I mean) 22:58 PilzAdam is there any way to do this all at once for all the files? 22:58 VanessaE not sure, but I don't think so 22:59 VanessaE digging sand just sounds way wrong now (the same sound as leaves) 23:00 VanessaE ditto for gravel 23:00 VanessaE gravel sounds terrible 23:00 VanessaE put the old sound back for that one, it was perfect 23:01 VanessaE the sound you're using for grass now would probably work well for snow, however 23:01 khonkhortisan What is it that makes a plant diggable, placable, and able to have something placed in the same spot as it? 23:02 VanessaE buildable_to 23:02 khonkhortisan ah, and selectable? 23:02 Exio pointable_to 23:02 khonkhortisan oh 23:02 Exio iirc :P 23:02 VanessaE walking on stone sounds too repetitive. 23:06 VanessaE wood should definitely have a different sound than stone 23:07 VanessaE imho sounds should not be based on whether the material is hard, or has a particular digging propertt. 23:07 VanessaE property* 23:07 VanessaE they need to be based on the actual material being discussed 23:07 VanessaE hitting something soft with a steel pick, for example, should make a fairly soft sound, but if I break stone, I should hear the 'ring' of the metal in the pick 23:09 VanessaE (well not ring, but surely some kind of metallic sound) 23:13 VanessaE Exio: pointable I think (not _to) 23:14 VanessaE digging at a tree seems fine though 23:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, pull again 23:18 PilzAdam normalized all sounds to -3dB 23:21 VanessaE walking on stone is silent now 23:22 PilzAdam I guess the grass walking is too loud 23:22 VanessaE oh wait, it's there 23:22 VanessaE just really quiet 23:22 VanessaE no, the loudness there is right 23:22 VanessaE stone is too quiet 23:22 VanessaE check your in-game gain settings 23:24 PilzAdam try changing all default_hard_footstep to gain=0.5 in default/functions.lua 23:24 VanessaE line 21? 23:24 VanessaE oh wait, all of the, 23:24 VanessaE them* 23:25 VanessaE changed. testing 23:25 PilzAdam and change gravel to gain=0.5 too, (search for default_gravel_footstep, its in 2 different files) 23:26 VanessaE stone sounds loud enough now. 23:26 VanessaE ok, lemme see about the gravel 23:29 VanessaE gravel could be just a touch louder 23:29 PilzAdam it doesnt sound so good if its louder 23:30 VanessaE walking on stone/wood/grass, and digging trees/leaves/wood/gravel/stone seem well-enough balanced 23:30 VanessaE one thing that's too loud - too much *bass* that is - is the "you just dug that item" sound 23:31 VanessaE (the sound when the node disappears) 23:31 PilzAdam yea, also the dig_cracky could be a bit more like place_hard 23:31 VanessaE actually the walking-on-grass sound has too much bass also 23:33 VanessaE the placing sounds seem fine 23:33 VanessaE leaves lack a "you just dug that" sound (wtf is the right term?) 23:34 PilzAdam dug_node 23:34 VanessaE right 23:34 PilzAdam sand and leaves dont have that sound 23:34 VanessaE I don't do enough in-game sound work to remember :) 23:34 VanessaE yeah, sand needs something 23:34 VanessaE hm, now I have to re-do the sounds for pipeworks. dammit :) 23:35 PilzAdam how about removing the dug_node sound? 23:35 VanessaE naw, just tune it 23:35 khonkhortisan If you do add luacontrollers, please add digilines with it 23:35 VanessaE it adds depth to the game. 23:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: are they safe? 23:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, well, I joined your server yesterday to crash it with Lua controllers :-p 23:37 VanessaE did you succeed? :D 23:37 VanessaE oh WITH 23:37 VanessaE heh 23:37 VanessaE (in which case you failed :D ) 23:37 Exio /report PilzAdam griefer 23:37 Exio ;P 23:39 VanessaE khonkhortisan: luacontrollers re-enabled, digilines added. they'll become available at the next restart. 23:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, force pull the branch again 23:39 VanessaE ok 23:39 PilzAdam all volumes are adjusted now 23:40 PilzAdam so, TODO: 1) adjust dug_node 2) make dig_cracky more "hitting" (like place_hard) 23:40 khonkhortisan ok 23:41 VanessaE checking. 23:42 PilzAdam VanessaE, the grass_footstep sound is actually pretty good, you need to get used to it 23:42 PilzAdam but a bit less bass would be good, I guess 23:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: at least add a few more sounds to the rotation 23:42 VanessaE I only hear three, it needs a lot more 23:43 PilzAdam can you do all this? 23:43 VanessaE not really :) 23:43 VanessaE now, which one is used while digging sand? 23:44 PilzAdam dig_crumbly 23:44 VanessaE ok 23:44 VanessaE get rid of tapping sound 23:44 VanessaE it sounds *way* out of place while digging sand 23:44 VanessaE the other sound is okay though 23:44 PilzAdam what does "tapping sound" mean? 23:44 PilzAdam the high one? 23:45 VanessaE there's a "chish chish chish" sound, and a "tak tak tak" sound 23:45 VanessaE get rid of the latter. 23:45 VanessaE hard to describe them :D 23:46 PilzAdam so, rm default_dig_choppy.2.ogg 23:46 VanessaE no 23:46 VanessaE mods/default/sounds/default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg 23:46 VanessaE that one. 23:47 VanessaE or use it for something else, say digging at bricks. 23:48 PilzAdam I would say both dig_crumbly sounds fit, they just dont fit together 23:48 VanessaE not when digging on sand anyway :D 23:48 PilzAdam and I would actually prefer 2.ogg 23:49 PilzAdam you dig dirt with it too 23:49 VanessaE 2 on sand and dirt is fine 23:49 VanessaE 1 on either of those sounds entirely wrong 23:49 PilzAdam ahhh, I mean .1 23:49 VanessaE ditto for gravel 23:49 khonkhortisan http://postimg.org/image/yutqtfczb/ 23:50 PilzAdam .2 is too high for me 23:50 VanessaE default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg is way wrong for any of those three materials at all. 23:50 VanessaE .2. is far more appropriate 23:50 khonkhortisan there isn't a clean join for those wires 23:51 PilzAdam VanessaE, repull 23:51 VanessaE khonkhortisan: those vertical bases are electrically conductive sideways 23:51 VanessaE you're connecting all your buttons together 23:51 khonkhortisan ik 23:53 * PilzAdam has to bother mitori with the sounds again tomorrow... 23:53 VanessaE pulled, checking 23:54 VanessaE better. 23:54 VanessaE now, bricks. That 'tak tak tak' sound of .1.ogg, use it for digging bricks 23:55 PilzAdam wut? 23:55 VanessaE apply default_dig_crumbly.1.ogg (the one you just removed from sand/gravel) to digging on brick blocks. 23:55 PilzAdam bricks use the normal dig_cracky 23:56 VanessaE the sound you're using for that sounds like knocking on a wooden door 23:56 VanessaE entirely wrong for digging on something like brick 23:56 PilzAdam yes, I wanted to ask mitori to change it to be more "hitting" like the place_hard sound 23:56 VanessaE youcan't just use sound categories, you'll have to use a few sounds that are specific to certain materials.