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StrayBytes |
Hexafraction has caused a bit of hell, and so I have taken down my public WiFi network. |
00:54 |
StrayBytes |
Sadly I can no longer help out my community with public WiFi. |
00:54 |
StrayBytes |
I'd like to be delisted now. |
00:55 |
StrayBytes |
No, seriously. I can take no responsibility for one idiot's actions. |
00:58 |
StrayBytes |
I request at least a response. I'm not your police, I'm not hex's police. I have nothing to do with this, yet I am here sorting things out in this channel. I could be erging instead, yet I am here dealing with script kiddies that decide to use my public WiFi for malicious reasons. |
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Kacey |
okay, breathe... must remember: I'm not allowed to throw bricks at people just because they piss me off... breathe.. BREATHE... ah F*ck it! I'm gonna throw it! |
01:01 |
StrayBytes |
I'm the arbitrator, not the attacker. |
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* StrayBytes |
is away: Away |
01:06 |
* StrayBytes |
is away: Busy. |
01:07 |
kaeza |
wat |
01:08 |
* StrayBytes |
is away: Busy. |
01:09 |
kaeza |
could you please stop away-message-spamming? |
01:09 |
Exio |
StrayBytes: that is why you can't be nice in real life |
01:09 |
Exio |
outside that |
01:09 |
StrayBytes |
My client away-messages based on one channel. |
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kaeza |
bleh |
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Menche |
anyone know how to get inventory_plus? 0gb.us' link is broken. |
01:19 |
Menche |
can't find his account, much less the repo |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
Menche, I have all the mods |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
You need i+ ? |
01:21 |
Menche |
yeah |
01:21 |
Menche |
is 0gb.us not maintaining it anymore? |
01:21 |
OldCoder |
om == one moment |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
I have an inventory plus from January |
01:22 |
OldCoder |
is that too old? |
01:23 |
Menche |
idk, would specialties and inventory_warps work with it? |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/inventory_plus.zip |
01:24 |
OldCoder |
Check that while I check elsewhere |
01:24 |
Menche |
thanks |
01:24 |
Menche |
jojoa has a repo of it also |
01:25 |
Menche |
https://github.com/jojoa1997/0gb.us-repo |
01:25 |
Menche |
doesn't look like jojoa was actually maintaining it though, just hosting it |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, around? |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
yes |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
just walked back in. |
02:22 |
kaeza |
I noticed formatting and indentatino in homedecor is heavily fucked up (mostly due to my using of spaces while you use tabs). mind if I fix all of that? |
02:23 |
VanessaE |
go for it, though I'm not anal about tabs vs. spaces so much as certain others are ;) |
02:23 |
VanessaE |
I've taken to using 1 tab = 4 spaces |
02:24 |
VanessaE |
(though my code is hardly consistent on that point) |
02:24 |
kaeza |
I know, but it makes it easier to read :) |
02:25 |
VanessaE |
true |
02:25 |
kaeza |
also, my old editor (jEdit) has a bad tendency to break things that don't use indentation consistently |
02:25 |
VanessaE |
I use gedit |
02:25 |
kaeza |
I nuked the sucker |
02:25 |
kaeza |
geany FTW |
02:28 |
drizz |
pff |
02:28 |
drizz |
vim |
02:28 |
VanessaE |
*puke* |
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kaeza |
butterflies! |
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02:32 |
Menche |
was stairsplus merged into moreblocks? |
02:33 |
VanessaE |
yes, a while back. |
02:33 |
VanessaE |
along with sokomine's circular saw |
02:33 |
Menche |
i installed the latest moreblocks, and i have tons of unknown nodes |
02:33 |
Menche |
which were previously from stairsplus |
02:33 |
VanessaE |
strange |
02:34 |
VanessaE |
it uses a bunch of abms to convert the old blocks over to the new model |
02:40 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91249#p91249 |
02:40 |
VanessaE |
*stomps foot* |
02:43 |
drizz |
fun fact: I'm concinved that rarkenin *is* hexafraction |
02:46 |
drizz |
I swear, this bee is completely and utterly retarded |
02:46 |
drizz |
it's been in my apartment for about a day now |
02:46 |
VanessaE |
heh |
02:47 |
drizz |
every time it's been buzzing around my french door, and I've oppened it, it just goes hurrr durrr and flies away |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
02:56 |
drizz |
SERIOUSLY |
02:56 |
drizz |
was going out of my way trying to get it in a cup to get it out |
02:56 |
drizz |
and it just flew into my light, got stuck to the bulb and burned to death :( |
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kaeza |
22 files changed, 2530 insertions(+), 2554 deletions(-) |
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kaeza |
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khonkhortisan |
And to think there was only an Eat all the candies button |
05:15 |
drizz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7pwhE-xiY |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
09:18 |
OldCoder |
My hours today will probably be 4:00am to 6:00pm (14 hours) Pacific Time except for meetings |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
10:44 |
arsdragonfly |
Hi |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Exio, PilzAdam sorry for blowing things up. My stress level was very very high and the current way i was doing things not working with the new modsystem just lit the fuse. Also the new way is better. |
10:58 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Also with the new farming added does that mean wool is available cause i havent tried |
10:59 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
11:00 |
PilzAdam |
I managed to get wool in all 15 colors in survival gameplay |
11:00 |
PilzAdam |
it takes 10 minutes or so |
11:00 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
goozd |
11:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
will diamond hoes be added? |
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11:05 |
proller |
PilzAdam, you make bones? |
11:05 |
PilzAdam |
hm? |
11:07 |
proller |
i want option to not leave bones block if player have empty inventory |
11:07 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE: do you know who exactly has a server wich was register-flooded? |
11:07 |
PilzAdam |
proller, that doesnt really make sense |
11:08 |
proller |
on my server thousands bones blocks |
11:08 |
proller |
more frequent than stone near spawn 8) |
11:08 |
PilzAdam |
why do people die so often then? |
11:08 |
PilzAdam |
also, others can dig them and use them for decoration |
11:09 |
PilzAdam |
(after 20 minutes or so) |
11:09 |
proller |
look at Sky hardcore |
11:09 |
proller |
hard spawn on high mountain |
11:10 |
PilzAdam |
connecting... |
11:11 |
PilzAdam |
oh, I was on this server once, so I didnt spawn at the spawn |
11:12 |
PilzAdam |
can you teleport me there? |
11:12 |
PilzAdam |
or grant me fly privs? |
11:13 |
proller |
now - no |
11:13 |
proller |
have 500 byter per second connection 8) |
11:13 |
proller |
bytes |
11:14 |
proller |
just die |
11:18 |
PilzAdam |
I dont see that many bones |
11:19 |
PilzAdam |
and is it normal that there is a teleporter at the spawn that brings you into a desert? |
11:19 |
PilzAdam |
(you cant go into the sky world because of a locked door) |
11:21 |
proller |
8( |
11:21 |
proller |
somebody make spawn simpler |
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proller |
i can show you bones mountain at next monday |
11:24 |
PilzAdam |
proller, ok |
11:31 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: uhuh, sky hardcore |
11:31 |
Calinou |
elementary OS is more important |
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VanessaE |
iqualfragile: look at the servers list (minetest.net/servers). Any of those with more than about 20 was flooded, including mine and uplink.io. |
12:13 |
iqualfragile |
oh, wonderfull |
12:13 |
VanessaE |
also, good morning |
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rubenwardy |
Hi guys! |
12:26 |
* rubenwardy |
felt like a change in greets |
12:26 |
rubenwardy |
*greetings |
12:31 |
rubenwardy |
spam post not deleted: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6073# |
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rubenwardy |
How is landmine unbanned? |
12:58 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, the ban was set to expire after 10 days |
12:58 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Jeija commited to minetest/minetest: Make raillike nodes connect to any other raillike nodes if both are in the group connect_to_raillike 3abbe7efd1 2013-05-22T06:08:24-07:00 http://git.io/N3PEoQ |
13:25 |
xiong |
Ah, I don't see how to use bronze. Historically (not that need follow) bronze superseded copper and was in turn superseded by iron. But then real bronze is a copper-tin alloy, both ores easily smelted compared to most iron ores. So the win for bronze, in its time, was it was accessible at a lower level of tech. |
13:26 |
xiong |
But the minetest bronze is an alloy of copper and iron; and if I already have the iron, why would I trade down to the less-durable bronze?? |
13:26 |
VanessaE |
xiong: we've argued that one 'till we're blue in the face. it should indeed be tin+copper, but well..guess others don't like the idea. |
13:26 |
xiong |
As I say... no need to follow RL. But in this game, what do I do with the bronze? |
13:27 |
VanessaE |
it can be used to make a few tools |
13:27 |
PilzAdam |
xiong, copper is an "add on" for steel, wich gives it more uses |
13:27 |
VanessaE |
picks, hoes, etc. |
13:27 |
PilzAdam |
more uses == dig more stone until it breaks |
13:28 |
xiong |
PilzAdam, ah, that's not what I'm seeing. Bronze pickaxe, 30 uses; steel pickaxe, 333 uses. |
13:28 |
xiong |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Pickaxe |
13:28 |
xiong |
Hence my puzzlement. |
13:28 |
PilzAdam |
thats wrong |
13:28 |
xiong |
Okay, I'll buy that. |
13:29 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/tools.lua#L48 |
13:29 |
xiong |
Also: Are there any mobs at all in the 0.4.6 world? I have yet to be attacked -- granted, I'm careful... but not that wise. |
13:30 |
VanessaE |
no |
13:31 |
xiong |
Okay... have you got any into nightly yet? Also: hoes, farms, eatable animals? |
13:31 |
PilzAdam |
Fatal error: Activity in #minetest-delta |
13:31 |
xiong |
Oops, that's not usually good. |
13:32 |
VanessaE |
didn't know anyone still used that channel |
13:32 |
xiong |
Also: Why no drowning? Underwater mining is absurdly easy; now I wonder why I bother to dig down through hard rock. |
13:32 |
VanessaE |
there's a mod for that. |
13:32 |
PilzAdam |
there are mods for everything |
13:32 |
PilzAdam |
mobs, drowning, farming, whatever |
13:33 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: didn't you know, that's the new "there's an app for that" :-) |
13:33 |
PilzAdam |
farming will be officialy in 0.4.7, though |
13:33 |
xiong |
Is it the intention of minetest to fork minecraft, to take a different development route? |
13:33 |
PilzAdam |
Minetest is not a fork of Minecraft |
13:33 |
xiong |
Or is it just the practice to implement features first as mods before integration? |
13:34 |
xiong |
... to fork the gameplay, to drive toward a different thing? |
13:34 |
PilzAdam |
we have a pretty good API for mods, and mod creators are usually faster than core development |
13:34 |
xiong |
I'm not asking if the codebase forked; I'd ask that in #minetest-dev. |
13:35 |
xiong |
I'm not asking my question well, sorry. |
13:35 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91327#p91327 |
13:36 |
xiong |
Is there consensus among minetest devs whether minetest should eventually play the same as minecraft or go in a different direction? |
13:36 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: dealt. |
13:36 |
PilzAdam |
xiong, no |
13:36 |
xiong |
Ah. |
13:36 |
PilzAdam |
some aim for a game similiar to Minecraft alpha |
13:36 |
xiong |
That explains much. |
13:37 |
PilzAdam |
Minetest definetly is similiar to Minecraft |
13:37 |
PilzAdam |
but some people dont want to believe that for some reason |
13:37 |
xiong |
Understand. Very easy to understand. |
13:38 |
PilzAdam |
but we definetly never ever will have potions or "the end" or something like this in minetest_game |
13:38 |
xiong |
Kudos to the devs who worked on the game as it is; it's extremely stable. |
13:38 |
PilzAdam |
stable but boring ;-) |
13:38 |
PilzAdam |
minetest_game also kinda is a platform for all the mods in the forum |
13:38 |
xiong |
Stable but boring wins, for me, over exciting but crashes, possibly locking up my machine on the way down. |
13:39 |
PilzAdam |
many people think that Minetest is unplayable without mods |
13:39 |
RealBadAngel |
as many as think the same bout minecraft |
13:40 |
PilzAdam |
so, I think the plan for minetest_game is kinda a Minecraft alpha like game that has enough freedom for mods |
13:40 |
xiong |
Contrast Unknown Horizons, which has some *very* interesting dimensions, many implemented, some just planned. Last time I upgraded, on startup it immediately crashed and took my whole system with it -- Linux! |
13:40 |
RealBadAngel |
except for that minecraft have no real freedom for mods at all |
13:40 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
13:41 |
arsdragonfly |
PilzAdam : an alpha copy would be boring ,we also need some imaginative features |
13:41 |
xiong |
Well, my vote is still for stability. I'm funny that way. Love new features; like them better when they work. |
13:41 |
RealBadAngel |
all mods in mc are made AGAINST developers |
13:41 |
PilzAdam |
arsdragonfly, not copy MC alpha, but a game _like_ it |
13:42 |
xiong |
Ah, bedtime. Thanks for the hints, guess I'll give bronze a shot. But I'm going to throw away all my swords. :( |
13:43 |
PilzAdam |
xiong, since the engine and mods/games are seperated, there can be added a lot content without losing stability |
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13:58 |
sfan5 |
hello |
14:00 |
VanessaE |
hey |
14:01 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: possible problem with the //replace command or //fixlight - causing major server lag |
14:01 |
VanessaE |
(probably //fixlight) |
14:02 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: fixlight always causes server lag |
14:02 |
VanessaE |
oh |
14:02 |
VanessaE |
ok |
14:02 |
VanessaE |
this was after the command finished though |
14:02 |
VanessaE |
the server locked up. |
14:03 |
VanessaE |
must be some map loader/emerge bug or something, or technic maybe (item drop) |
14:07 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, have you worked on textures any more? |
14:07 |
VanessaE |
no |
14:07 |
VanessaE |
HDX normal/specular maps are stable for a while |
14:07 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, look at the fixlight of WE++ |
14:08 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, it runs only 64 commands / step, that seems to cause no lag |
14:08 |
RealBadAngel |
any bugs spotted? |
14:08 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: there is no good fix for fixlight because many mods use minetest.register_on_dignode etc. |
14:09 |
PilzAdam |
how many commands do you run per step? |
14:09 |
PilzAdam |
(in fixlight) |
14:09 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: the only "bugs" are those which we've already discussed |
14:09 |
RealBadAngel |
i suggest fixlight where it is. since we are going to move to irrlicht lightin |
14:09 |
RealBadAngel |
*suggest leaving |
14:09 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: hardware/irrlicht lighting is still a ways off. we need something that works in the meantime. |
14:10 |
RealBadAngel |
its not so demonical |
14:10 |
RealBadAngel |
in fact using irrlicht lights is way easier and better documented tham mt ones |
14:10 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, its same as saying "stop using sqlite, we will have LevelDB soon" |
14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont know about databases |
14:11 |
RealBadAngel |
its not my area of interest |
14:12 |
RealBadAngel |
but about lights i can point just one thing |
14:12 |
RealBadAngel |
game is built on irrlicht engine |
14:13 |
RealBadAngel |
so we are not talkin bout importing something |
14:13 |
RealBadAngel |
we are talking bout fuckin learn how to use our own engine :P |
14:14 |
RealBadAngel |
so please DONT compare those two |
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14:14 |
kahrl |
mods will want to know the light level of a certain node (say mob mods for spawning, or mesecons for daylight sensors) |
14:15 |
kahrl |
not sure how that would be possible efficiently with only hardware lights |
14:15 |
RealBadAngel |
easily |
14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
if every node will be lighten by engine? we will know its light level |
14:16 |
RealBadAngel |
just propably different equation or somethin like this |
14:16 |
kahrl |
the server doesn't have the irrlicht scene |
14:17 |
RealBadAngel |
doesnt have what? |
14:17 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry but everythin you can see on the screen are irrlicht scenes |
14:17 |
kahrl |
the server doesn't even link against the irrlicht library |
14:17 |
RealBadAngel |
ah |
14:18 |
RealBadAngel |
i got your point |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: seems to me you'd need to do a hard calculation at that point, each time a mod reads the light level from somewhere |
14:18 |
RealBadAngel |
we can mix it then |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
(plants_lib reads light levels, btw) |
14:19 |
BrandonReese |
Is it possible to keep the current lighting system server side, but use hardware lighting when rendering the scene on the client side? |
14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
propably yes |
14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
server side for calculations |
14:19 |
RealBadAngel |
client side for look |
14:19 |
kahrl |
mixing the two would also add some (very weak) approximation of global illumination |
14:19 |
VanessaE |
sure, it's possible - whether the client will match what the server thinks is present is a question though |
14:20 |
RealBadAngel |
only thing we shall take real care of is sun position |
14:20 |
kahrl |
with only hardware lights you'd probably have very hard shadow edges and dark entrances to caves |
14:20 |
VanessaE |
couldn't the server just ask the client what the light is at a given spot? |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
-> lag |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
also, ask with client? |
14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
server should pay no shit what player can see |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
*wich |
14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
it shall control sun/moon pos |
14:21 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: whichever client whose presence is triggering some server code that needs the light level (e.g. an ABM only runs if a player is nearby) |
14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
and allow players to place another sources of light |
14:22 |
Exio |
no please |
14:22 |
Exio |
share the calculations |
14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
but ilumation is up to client |
14:22 |
Exio |
or then you will end with quake3 version sandbox |
14:22 |
VanessaE |
ok, so then link the server against irrlicht |
14:22 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: what if two or more players are nearby? |
14:22 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the player might not even see/calculate that region |
14:22 |
VanessaE |
have it do the same thing the clients do |
14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
they will share same time of day data |
14:22 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, also, there might be clients that dont even have calculate it at all |
14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
and light sources location |
14:22 |
PilzAdam |
(fullbright option, bots) |
14:22 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: true on both counts |
14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
so if they will have the same display logic |
14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
they will see the same |
14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
period |
14:23 |
VanessaE |
but there has *got* to be a way to let the server know of the computed light value for a given node. |
14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
old system |
14:23 |
VanessaE |
old system is slow though. |
14:24 |
kahrl |
let's say you're on a pvp server with hostile mobs |
14:24 |
VanessaE |
the old system is why moretrees takes up to 3 seconds to populate a mapblock |
14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
so sun pos vs node coords |
14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
and some weights |
14:24 |
VanessaE |
er, a chunk* |
14:24 |
kahrl |
it would be very easy to make a cheaty client that reports all nodes as full bright so that no mobs spawn |
14:24 |
BrandonReese |
sun pos + other light sources |
14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
kahrl, we are talkin now bout server logic |
14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
not clients |
14:25 |
kahrl |
RealBadAngel: I was talking about VanessaE's suggestion to move the calculation to clients |
14:25 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, someone brought up the idea that clients can report the light |
14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
no fucking way |
14:25 |
Exio |
i suggestdoing it in the "both" sides |
14:25 |
PilzAdam |
we just want to show that this idea is not good |
14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
client side -> only gfx and eye candy |
14:26 |
RealBadAngel |
server -> game mechanism and provide input for clients eyecandies |
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14:26 |
Exio |
i still don't get it |
14:26 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: if it takes 3 seconds there's something broken with the code |
14:26 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: it's the lighting code, hmmmm said. Those trees are bloody huge and they really strain the lighting code. |
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14:27 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: as in, some 5000 nodes for one tree |
14:27 |
kahrl |
even after the improvements hmmmm made? |
14:27 |
BrandonReese |
the old system would need to stick around anyway to make it an option to turn hw lighting off. |
14:27 |
VanessaE |
yup |
14:27 |
kahrl |
5000 isn't really much |
14:27 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
14:28 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: one tree can take upwards of 350 ms to spawn |
14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
irrlicht models (ONE OBJECT) are common with 30-40k polygons |
14:28 |
PilzAdam |
there are only 4096 nodes per mapblock |
14:28 |
VanessaE |
on my box that is |
14:28 |
VanessaE |
slow boxes might take twice as long |
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14:29 |
kahrl |
350ms without the lighting? |
14:29 |
VanessaE |
with |
14:29 |
Exio |
meters |
14:29 |
VanessaE |
Exio: milliseconds |
14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
spawn means complex computations to generate it |
14:29 |
Exio |
aww |
14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
not light it up |
14:29 |
kahrl |
ah so you spawn multiple trees at once? |
14:30 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: yeah |
14:30 |
VanessaE |
but one tree can take 350ms by itself |
14:30 |
kahrl |
in on_generate? |
14:30 |
VanessaE |
if it's bug enough |
14:30 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
14:30 |
VanessaE |
big* |
14:30 |
kahrl |
maybe it shouldn't calculate the lighting during on_generate and let the post-generate lighting take care of it |
14:31 |
kahrl |
doesn't make sense to calculate the light after spawning each tree if you could do it in one go |
14:31 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how the current lighting system is doing it |
14:32 |
VanessaE |
I'm just using this as an example why not to keep the existing software lighting code if there's any way at all to do it in hardware (which will surely be 10x faster yet) |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
or at least, to do it with irrlicht instead of whatever we're doing now |
14:34 |
VanessaE |
this is the conundrum - the server needs to know the light level of each node, but the clients are the ones that display it. |
14:34 |
RealBadAngel |
offtpic: i can kill dragon now without even borin about teleport and seeds ;) |
14:34 |
jin_xi |
yay, candies! |
14:34 |
RealBadAngel |
2614hp now ;) |
14:34 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, I can beat the final boss without doing anything |
14:35 |
jin_xi |
the winning move is not to play... |
14:35 |
kahrl |
Is there any method in irrlicht that lets you ask for the light at a certain position? I don't think there is |
14:35 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: only* |
14:35 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: no idea. |
14:35 |
RealBadAngel |
kahrl, ofc it is |
14:35 |
PilzAdam |
still, the server doesnt have Irrlich |
14:35 |
PilzAdam |
+t |
14:36 |
kahrl |
PilzAdam: the suggestion was to add it, which I think is a bad idea |
14:36 |
VanessaE |
well then what do we do? |
14:36 |
kahrl |
RealBadAngel: where? |
14:36 |
RealBadAngel |
use the same equations just |
14:36 |
PilzAdam |
can you even install/use irrlicht on a remote server without a XServer? |
14:36 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: how would post-generation lighting work? does the server run through that gradually? |
14:36 |
kahrl |
I think you could use EDT_NULL |
14:37 |
RealBadAngel |
every light aware code checks the light sources |
14:37 |
RealBadAngel |
nearby or global |
14:37 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: I don't know, I haven't looked at most of mapgen in a long time |
14:37 |
VanessaE |
ok |
14:37 |
VanessaE |
well I guess hmmmm would know |
14:37 |
VanessaE |
a bit part of the issue is threading and locking though |
14:37 |
VanessaE |
and I guess no one has a solution to that yet |
14:38 |
kahrl |
well with the current way the whole server is locked during on_generate |
14:38 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
14:39 |
kahrl |
with decorationdef/decorations it would be only during the lighting phase if I understand right |
14:39 |
VanessaE |
yeah but that doesn't help those of us who are stuck with mg v6 |
14:39 |
kahrl |
true |
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14:52 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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14:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://dev.minetest.net/Mapgen_V7 |
14:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Lol not done yet |
14:57 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
PilzAdam: Will diamond how's be added to default since all the other tools have diamond types |
14:58 |
rubenwardy |
*hoes :P |
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15:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Yeah they should be added |
15:02 |
Zeg9 |
Hi! |
15:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
And also you could use the code from minitest |
15:03 |
Zeg9 |
what about mese hoes? |
15:05 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Sure but diamond looks better |
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15:05 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
And they are already made |
15:05 |
Zeg9 |
It's just about changing the color anyway, and copy-pasta of code |
15:06 |
Zeg9 |
I think both should be added, since all tools can be made from these two crystals |
15:06 |
Zeg9 |
btw what's this minetest version with trollfaces: http://wiki.minetest.com/images/9/9c/Putkiksia.png |
15:06 |
PilzAdam |
Zeg9, NMPR |
15:06 |
PilzAdam |
its mentioned in the dev wiki |
15:08 |
Zeg9 |
I read about this once |
15:08 |
PilzAdam |
its pretty awesome |
15:08 |
PilzAdam |
you easily get like 500 FPS |
15:09 |
PilzAdam |
and its not so bloated |
15:09 |
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15:10 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, talk to VanessaE, she doesnt want them |
15:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
VanessaE: why no diamond picks |
15:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Hoes |
15:11 |
rubenwardy |
They are v unrealistic |
15:11 |
rubenwardy |
not that the whole block idea is realistic |
15:11 |
rubenwardy |
Diamond is brittle, a bit like glass |
15:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So what |
15:11 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
15:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Do is obsidian |
15:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So |
15:11 |
rubenwardy |
... |
15:12 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Obsidian is more brittle |
15:13 |
hmmmm |
[10:27 AM] <kahrl> even after the improvements hmmmm made? <---- that was only to the mapgen, not Map::updateLighting() |
15:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What is NMPR? |
15:13 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, look at the dev wiki |
15:13 |
hmmmm |
i intend to use Mapgen::calcLighting() on the blocks being emerged |
15:13 |
rubenwardy |
An early version of MT |
15:13 |
hmmmm |
when decorations are written to it |
15:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Oh |
15:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I remember trying that |
15:14 |
hmmmm |
sorry i haven't been spending much time on minetest lately, been doing jobby stuff |
15:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/old/minetest-c55-binary-110211211322.zip |
15:16 |
Calinou |
wb tablet user :P |
15:16 |
Calinou |
oh he left |
15:16 |
PilzAdam |
*crashed |
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15:17 |
Jordach |
i've played minetest on a tablet before |
15:17 |
Jordach |
by using team viewer and some tools, its possible |
15:17 |
Calinou |
challenge: play minetest with the leap motion thingy |
15:18 |
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15:22 |
Jordach |
even better, play it with kinect |
15:23 |
PilzAdam |
the new xbox one sucks |
15:23 |
Calinou |
consoles suck |
15:23 |
Jordach |
yup |
15:23 |
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15:23 |
PilzAdam |
I want to play and nothing else |
15:23 |
Calinou |
mid end hardware at release |
15:23 |
Calinou |
5 years after = TOTALLY outdated |
15:23 |
* PilzAdam |
wont buy it, since Battlefield 4 comes for 360 too |
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15:24 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, same here |
15:24 |
* Zeg9 |
abandons bulding nmpr. Running under wine will be much faster than finding the required libraries... |
15:24 |
Jordach |
at least EA done away with stupid online passes |
15:25 |
ruskie |
yeah now xbox will have them built in |
15:25 |
PilzAdam |
Zeg9, you basically one need the jthread that already is in your current minetest directory |
15:25 |
PilzAdam |
*only |
15:25 |
Zeg9 |
So the latest jthread wouldn't work? |
15:25 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
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15:25 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
VanessaE: why no diamond how's? |
15:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Hoes |
15:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
15:26 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
15:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no diamond pimps? |
15:26 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, you are repeating yourself |
15:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I said this already? |
15:27 |
PilzAdam |
<jojoa1997|Tablet> VanessaE: why no diamond picks |
15:27 |
PilzAdam |
<jojoa1997|Tablet> Hoes |
15:27 |
Jordach |
3hrs 30mins remain... |
15:27 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
For what |
15:30 |
Calinou |
till what? |
15:30 |
Calinou |
next MLP episode? |
15:30 |
Jordach |
Calinou, a simple mobs extension |
15:30 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ |
15:31 |
Jordach |
and it's a extensive thing |
15:31 |
Jordach |
it will require MAPGEN V7 |
15:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So how long tillnyounrelease |
15:32 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, put it like this: every relase will have one more addition |
15:32 |
Jordach |
usually one, two or three at a time |
15:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So what will be new? |
15:33 |
Jordach |
btw, you wont be seeing any normal simple mobs monsters |
15:34 |
Jordach |
i'll have a teaser video up later |
15:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Let me guess |
15:34 |
* Calinou |
goes to play some TF2 |
15:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
M |
15:35 |
Calinou |
Jordach: did you buy any games on steam? |
15:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, NOPE.AVI |
15:35 |
Calinou |
if you did then you can add me :P |
15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Mobs that come from the terrain |
15:35 |
Calinou |
:/ |
15:35 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, well, they will in this |
15:35 |
Jordach |
each biome will have specific items |
15:35 |
Calinou |
well, if anyone wants to add me my ID is Calinou_ |
15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Calinou I am using tablet |
15:35 |
Jordach |
XxJordachxX |
15:35 |
Jordach |
^ steam + xbox 360 |
15:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach does the new mapgen have biomes except rock |
15:36 |
Calinou |
lol Xx |
15:36 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet: no |
15:36 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, i'll release it when it's out |
15:37 |
Jordach |
because put it like this: it will weigh around 70mb |
15:37 |
Jordach |
when fully complete |
15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
PilzAdam could you make a MiniTest header that looks like the mine craft header |
15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach cool |
15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
will horses be added? |
15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
or something for us to ride |
15:38 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, well, put it like this: this mod will be more content rich than any other mobs mode |
15:38 |
Jordach |
-e |
15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
even mobf |
15:38 |
Jordach |
also 300+ entitie registers |
15:39 |
Jordach |
entity* |
15:39 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok i have one request then |
15:39 |
Jordach |
-!- Server: Request denied. |
15:39 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
make a way to decide what mobs are in the world and not like mobf |
15:39 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, all of them are needed |
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15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
no i mean so you can say not spawn ... |
15:40 |
Jordach |
spawn limits for each entity will be enforced |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
turkies if you dont want them |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i mean naturally |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
you can decide what mobs are there |
15:40 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, you do realise i've been working on a prototype for a whi;e |
15:40 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, no |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
*while |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok |
15:40 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
um |
15:41 |
Jordach |
entities have a 1x1 inv slot |
15:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
will each mob have a different file |
15:41 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, yes |
15:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok then good |
15:41 |
PilzAdam |
troll: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91341#p91341 |
15:41 |
Jordach |
oh and btw, think how MC wolves work |
15:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
what do you mean? |
15:41 |
Jordach |
reported |
15:41 |
Jordach |
how they follow you? |
15:42 |
Jordach |
each has that ability |
15:42 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91263#p91263 |
15:42 |
Jordach |
some harder than others |
15:42 |
thexyz |
> You can't leave |
15:42 |
Jordach |
they also require feeding |
15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
cool |
15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i cant wait |
15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
in how long |
15:43 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, considering simple mobs is a piece of piss to code for |
15:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
YES I IS! |
15:43 |
Jordach |
depending on the amount of models i need |
15:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
IT |
15:43 |
Jordach |
for now they will be friendly and non friendly |
15:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i mean how long till you release the first one today? |
15:43 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, it might |
15:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
<Jordach> 3hrs 30mins remain... |
15:44 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, i need to finish a prototype .x model |
15:45 |
rubenwardy |
Yamm will be even easier |
15:45 |
rubenwardy |
example: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c36919f9f696a34666c2#file-gistfile1-txt-L60 |
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15:46 |
rubenwardy |
I could even add the simplemobs code as a component |
15:46 |
rubenwardy |
like a wrapper |
15:46 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: is it fast? |
15:46 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw |
15:46 |
rubenwardy |
and simplemobs mobs would work with it |
15:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
rubenwardy could you make a download of your compiler with all the required libraries |
15:46 |
* Jordach |
closes tab |
15:47 |
rubenwardy |
thexyz: it is component based. It is as fast as the code each component has |
15:47 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
puts a kitten in Jordahcs spot |
15:47 |
rubenwardy |
what is wrong Jordach? |
15:47 |
thexyz |
that doesn't answer anything |
15:47 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, xbox one highlights |
15:47 |
thefamilygrog66 |
PilzAdam's Minecraftization controversy! |
15:47 |
* Jordach |
throws up |
15:47 |
thefamilygrog66 |
:) |
15:48 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
puts a kitten in Jordach's stuff |
15:48 |
rubenwardy |
If I added simplemobs as a component, it would be as fast. It is too early to see how fast it is atm |
15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach i will add the mobs from your pack that is similiar to minecrafts for minitest |
15:49 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, Im watching that video for the 3rd time and cant stop laughing |
15:49 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, theyre not MC RELATED |
15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
no pigs |
15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
no cows |
15:50 |
Jordach |
so will you QUIT IT. |
15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
wait |
15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
you aren't going to have pigs or wolves/dogs or fish? |
15:51 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
has anyone seen forest gump |
15:51 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, yes their will be |
15:51 |
Jordach |
just not in that form |
15:51 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yeah and i will edit it |
15:52 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
nothing i have added to mintest wasnt edited except factions mod |
15:52 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, minitest is full of shit and a cease and desist is probably going to strike you soon |
15:53 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, youre a dumbass |
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15:53 |
Jordach |
i ALREADY SAID THIS ISNT MC RELATED |
15:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach your a dumbass too :P |
15:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
you dont listen do you |
15:53 |
rubenwardy |
do you? |
15:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
you just here minitest |
15:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i do |
15:54 |
rubenwardy |
<Jordach> jojoa1997|Tablet, theyre not MC RELATED |
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15:54 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
going |
15:54 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
going to next class |
15:54 |
rubenwardy |
Thank fuck |
15:54 |
Jordach |
dumbass doesnt even listen |
15:54 |
rubenwardy |
Bitch please! |
15:55 |
Jordach |
anyways, just learned on how to make keyframe anims in minetest |
15:57 |
PilzAdam |
Note: Download links of jojoa's version of Minitest removed until he fixes the license mess he produced. |
15:58 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
15:58 |
PilzAdam |
I just looked at it and noticed that he shares simply everything as "Copyright PilzAdam; WTFPL" |
16:00 |
Jordach |
see? hes a dumbass |
16:00 |
Jordach |
im still waiting for a C&D letter from mojang |
16:06 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, whats the license of the rendered grass block in the minetest.com wiki? |
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16:23 |
Jordach |
BRB BACON BAGELS! |
16:24 |
Jordach |
actually nope |
16:25 |
Jordach |
:( |
16:27 |
Jordach |
also: why are the legs in the default player model bent backwards at the end of the breathing anim |
16:27 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
maybe we should have a running animation |
16:27 |
Jordach |
fuck off |
16:27 |
Jordach |
this isnt minecrap, okay? |
16:28 |
Jordach |
just play the walking anim faster |
16:28 |
Jordach |
DUH |
16:28 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
minecraft doesnt have a running animation |
16:28 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
that is what minecraft does |
16:28 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
they make it faster |
16:28 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
wait we need running first |
16:28 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
nvm |
16:29 |
* Jordach |
renders small keyframining anim |
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16:48 |
Jordach |
youtube is processing audio |
16:48 |
Jordach |
video* |
16:49 |
OldCoder |
News: Shutting down my worlds for migration to a new hard disk |
16:49 |
Jordach |
ooh |
16:51 |
Jordach |
hey Taoki |
16:51 |
Jordach |
i made my first keyframe animation |
16:53 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: same license as texture |
16:53 |
Calinou |
feel free to use it :) |
16:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou, youtube is processing your video stuck at 95% |
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16:58 |
Calinou |
heh |
16:58 |
Calinou |
that's youtube |
16:58 |
Calinou |
flash uploading needs to die |
16:59 |
Jordach |
my 27 min video took 20 seconds |
17:00 |
Calinou |
free insult \o/ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91353#p91353 |
17:00 |
* Calinou |
doesn't have 150 games on steam and doesn't use windows 7 |
17:00 |
Calinou |
and I don't have a 7970/680 too |
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17:03 |
Jordach |
YouTube, don't make me use vimeo |
17:04 |
Calinou |
how about dailymotion |
17:04 |
Calinou |
MADE IN FRANCE!!!! |
17:04 |
Jordach |
MOTHER FUCKER |
17:04 |
Jordach |
IT FINISHED PROCESSING AS I CLOSED THE TAB |
17:05 |
Calinou |
it finishes just like MLP episodes: when you close the tab |
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17:18 |
Jordach |
mastered keyframes |
17:19 |
Calinou |
masturbed keyframes |
17:19 |
Calinou |
</joke level="graphitemaster"> |
17:19 |
thexyz |
wait, you can have params in closing tag? |
17:21 |
Calinou |
HTML 6 |
17:21 |
Calinou |
© 2015 Calinou |
17:22 |
rubenwardy |
next you will be able to make games in html, no js |
17:23 |
Exio |
html 7 will include built-in java support |
17:24 |
thexyz |
javascript is already good enough |
17:24 |
thexyz |
now they should do something about css |
17:24 |
thexyz |
it sucks |
17:24 |
rubenwardy |
http://html6spec.com/ |
17:26 |
thexyz |
just make a language which lets us position elements instead of fucking with float-s and whatnot |
17:27 |
thexyz |
is that so hard? |
17:27 |
sfan5 |
apparently it is |
17:27 |
thexyz |
=( |
17:28 |
Jordach |
thexyz, invent your own html like markup |
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thexyz |
Jordach: which won't be supported by anything |
17:30 |
Jordach |
people still use gopher |
17:30 |
thexyz |
same goes for <video> and <audio> support |
17:30 |
thexyz |
well, for <video> i can just use h.264 and forget about linux/mac firefox users |
17:31 |
thexyz |
no one uses opera either |
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17:32 |
Jordach |
This is taking longer than expected. Your video has been queued and will be processed as soon as possible. |
17:32 |
Jordach |
FFS |
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* Jordach |
's head explodes |
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17:34 |
thexyz |
in the end, flash just works |
17:34 |
Exio |
bad thing of flash: its performance sucks |
17:35 |
drizz |
flash doesn't really just work... |
17:35 |
thexyz |
it's fine if i only need to play video or audio |
17:35 |
drizz |
it's really, really, really bad at playing video |
17:35 |
thexyz |
okay, then it's fine for audio |
17:35 |
drizz |
with 1 instance, perhaps :P |
17:36 |
drizz |
music websites tend to throw a list of like 15 tracks in your face, each whith their own flash player :x |
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Jordach |
hey dante123 |
17:37 |
Jordach |
in other news: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91359#p91359 |
17:38 |
Calinou |
thexyz: h.264 is bad and you should feel bad |
17:38 |
Calinou |
webm ftw |
17:38 |
dante123 |
howdy |
17:38 |
thexyz |
Calinou: it's the best video codec ever created |
17:39 |
Calinou |
why? |
17:39 |
Calinou |
its quality is meh, and it uses mp3 which is terrible |
17:39 |
rubenwardy |
Great. My platform game runs at 5fps |
17:39 |
thexyz |
> video codec |
17:39 |
thexyz |
> mp3 |
17:39 |
Calinou |
mp4 = h.264 + mp3 |
17:39 |
Calinou |
you don't use h.264 + vorbis usually |
17:39 |
Jordach |
Great. My YouTube video recorded at 24fps |
17:39 |
thexyz |
mp4 is a container |
17:39 |
thexyz |
for container .mkv is the best one |
17:39 |
Calinou |
and by h.264 you probably mean mp4 or o |
17:39 |
Calinou |
or mkv |
17:40 |
thexyz |
and by h264 i meant video codec |
17:40 |
* Jordach |
prefers streaming in binary |
17:40 |
Calinou |
h.264 is worse than vp8 |
17:40 |
Kray |
Calinou: nope |
17:40 |
Calinou |
Jordach: 24 fps ftl, 30fps is much better |
17:40 |
thexyz |
it's better |
17:40 |
Jordach |
Calinou, couldnt tell with bandicam |
17:40 |
thexyz |
even vp9 is worse than h264 |
17:40 |
Calinou |
[citation needed] |
17:40 |
rubenwardy |
My platform game uses DOM |
17:40 |
rubenwardy |
probably why |
17:40 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, thats why its a piece of shit |
17:40 |
Jordach |
and it always will be |
17:40 |
Calinou |
what about quality, too |
17:41 |
rubenwardy |
switching to canvas mode... |
17:41 |
Calinou |
(not just bitrate) |
17:41 |
thexyz |
oh, it's worse than h265, not h264 |
17:41 |
rubenwardy |
It runs at 20-30fps, until you the map gets too big |
17:41 |
thexyz |
> Bultje said that H.265 image quality outperforms VP9 by about 1 percent overall, though there's a lot of variability from one video to the next, based on Google's tests so far. |
17:42 |
Calinou |
1% :applause: |
17:42 |
Jordach |
how about 4k? |
17:42 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
17:42 |
Calinou |
4k is unusable right now because of connection speeds |
17:43 |
Calinou |
I wouldn't even try uplodaing a 1440p video already |
17:43 |
Jordach |
Calinou, fibre optic |
17:43 |
Calinou |
nor do people have 1440p screens |
17:43 |
Calinou |
not everyone has that |
17:43 |
Calinou |
27% of french people and I don't |
17:43 |
Exio |
Jordach: where do you live? |
17:43 |
Calinou |
UK |
17:43 |
Jordach |
United Kingdom |
17:43 |
Exio |
kk |
17:43 |
Calinou |
ninja'd |
17:43 |
* Jordach |
and Calinou should have a Monty Python joke round |
17:44 |
thexyz |
Calinou: yes, it was just released and they already state it sucks |
17:44 |
thexyz |
Calinou: anyway, https://gist.github.com/Hupotronic/4645784 |
17:45 |
thexyz |
i don't think i'll convince you though |
17:45 |
thexyz |
feel free to continue to use vp8 or whatever |
17:46 |
Calinou |
k then |
17:46 |
* Calinou |
lives in europe anyway |
17:46 |
Kray |
the other problem with vp8 and vp9 is that their development is closed |
17:46 |
Kray |
Google just decides that it's like this, and then spits it out |
17:46 |
Kray |
whereas h.26x are developed openly |
17:47 |
Calinou |
they are? |
17:47 |
Kray |
in cooperation with different companies and organizations |
17:47 |
Kray |
yes |
17:47 |
Calinou |
they're still patented |
17:47 |
Calinou |
yeah, MPEG LA is so awesome right |
17:47 |
Kray |
wat |
17:47 |
Calinou |
</sarcasm> |
17:48 |
Kray |
if you are operating commercially, the licensing fees are irrelevant |
17:49 |
Kray |
and for non-commercial stuff you don't need to pay |
17:49 |
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17:51 |
rubenwardy |
I am using http://craftyjs.com/ , Jordach |
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17:54 |
rubenwardy_ |
DOM is not that bas |
17:54 |
rubenwardy_ |
d |
17:56 |
rubenwardy_ |
this is cool: http://morrisgames.info/ |
17:56 |
PilzAdam |
MiniTest update! Now 100% copyrighted content from Mojang! |
17:56 |
PilzAdam |
+less |
17:58 |
Exio |
(not) |
18:01 |
Zeg9 |
PilzAdam: did you rewrite it entirely? |
18:02 |
PilzAdam |
kinda |
18:02 |
PilzAdam |
I started from the beginning (wich is a copy of minetest_game) |
18:05 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt use the copy of MC's TP from Jordach anymore |
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18:17 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i know youre here |
18:17 |
Jordach |
theres no hiding from Jordach |
18:20 |
VanessaE |
I am, just busy reading the scrollback |
18:21 |
Jordach |
i consider myself to see through other people's viewpoints |
18:23 |
VanessaE |
ok |
18:24 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i put a video up of keyframes in blender |
18:24 |
VanessaE |
I sw it |
18:25 |
VanessaE |
saw* |
18:25 |
* Zeg9 |
gotta go, cya |
18:25 |
Jordach |
see VanessaE. im mastering blender FAST. |
18:27 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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18:35 |
PilzAdam |
has somebody a good flint and flint_and_steel texture? |
18:35 |
PilzAdam |
(16x16) |
18:35 |
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18:37 |
VanessaE |
need me to draw one? |
18:38 |
PilzAdam |
would be awesome if you do so! |
18:38 |
PilzAdam |
(for MiniTest) |
18:38 |
VanessaE |
lemme see what I can come up with |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/flint_and_steel.png |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
how's that? |
18:48 |
PilzAdam |
I also need a flint texture |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
a mineal? |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
mineral* |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
can you point me to an example of how it'll be used? |
18:49 |
PilzAdam |
exactly like in mincraft |
18:49 |
VanessaE |
looking it up/ |
18:49 |
VanessaE |
. |
18:49 |
PilzAdam |
it drops randomly from gravel and is used to make flint and steel |
18:49 |
VanessaE |
ah, gotchya |
18:55 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/flint.png |
18:55 |
VanessaE |
license is wtfpl as usual |
18:56 |
VanessaE |
the flint-and-steel one needs a quick tweak though |
18:59 |
VanessaE |
there, try those two links. |
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* VanessaE |
pokes PilzAdam |
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19:11 |
StrayBytes |
After thinking the situation over for some time, I feel as if the proper thing for me to do as the WiFI operator is to apologize for the damage and technical issues as a result of the attack. However, as I am NOT the originator, I do NOT take any moral obligation/responsibility for this attack. Again, I apologize to the community of Minetest for not quickly acting on the problem or working with the |
19:11 |
StrayBytes |
community in a fully constructive manner to resolve the issue. My annoyance in #minetest after being notified was unjust and unnecessary. Thank you. Do not deblacklist me for the time being. |
19:11 |
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19:12 |
VanessaE |
StrayBytes: pastebin or forum link next time please. |
19:12 |
Calinou |
wb titan |
19:12 |
StrayBytes |
I only had one line of text. |
19:12 |
StrayBytes |
My apologies. |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
one really LONG line |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
no human could have typed it as fast as it came in :) |
19:13 |
* Calinou |
reads IRC logs |
19:13 |
StrayBytes |
What link to I grab? The link and anchor linked from the "Today 14:11:32" on the forum topic, right over the post? |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
that's the one I use for such things |
19:13 |
StrayBytes |
OK. Again, I apologize for not handling the situation in a constructive manner. |
19:13 |
StrayBytes |
Please do not deblacklist me, I do not deserve it for my ignorance and inaction. |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
Too late ;-) anyway no worries, we know it wasn't directly your fault. |
19:14 |
VanessaE |
in other words, shit happens. |
19:14 |
Calinou |
no need to make three cheeses of that ddos thingy |
19:14 |
VanessaE |
you fixed the problem already, there's no need to beat yourself up over it |
19:14 |
StrayBytes |
OK. Thank you for your understanding. |
19:14 |
Calinou |
it's over |
19:14 |
Calinou |
(expression courtesy of Calinou ._.) |
19:14 |
StrayBytes |
Thanks! |
19:14 |
VanessaE |
hm, severe thunderstorm moving into my area. |
19:14 |
StrayBytes |
Same here. Capital Region, NY. |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
well, near me anyway. |
19:15 |
Calinou |
must be that tornado thingy :P |
19:15 |
StrayBytes |
I'm basically rained out of swim practice :/ |
19:15 |
Calinou |
fire up your phenom x6, it'll be so hot it will repel the tornado |
19:15 |
StrayBytes |
Even though it's indoors and the point is to get wet. |
19:15 |
VanessaE |
heh |
19:15 |
* Calinou |
lives in france anyway |
19:15 |
Calinou |
no software patents, no tornadoes |
19:15 |
Calinou |
but lag when playing on US servers |
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19:16 |
StrayBytes |
FINA is french-based? |
19:17 |
Calinou |
what's FINA |
19:17 |
Jordach |
Calinou, standing down from fights is french |
19:17 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, nice, thanks |
19:17 |
StrayBytes |
Just found full name, it's actually french. International french league. |
19:17 |
PilzAdam |
scaled them down a bit |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
you're quite welcome. |
19:17 |
* Jordach |
lasughs |
19:17 |
StrayBytes |
Fédération Internationale de Natation |
19:17 |
Jordach |
laughs* |
19:18 |
StrayBytes |
Copypasta from Wikipedia. |
19:18 |
Calinou |
probably french then |
19:18 |
Jordach |
StrayBytes, my wifi router is free to use |
19:18 |
StrayBytes |
Yeah, I just found it. |
19:18 |
Jordach |
however, i spy on you while youre using it |
19:21 |
StrayBytes |
No need, I'm not within range. |
19:22 |
Calinou |
my wifi router is french |
19:22 |
Calinou |
if you send a packet with it, it'll add "NET_INFO_BAGUETTE" to it |
19:22 |
StrayBytes |
Lol. |
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19:25 |
dante1234 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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19:26 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: lobotomy remove |
19:26 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. |
19:26 |
ShadowNinja |
!up minetest.info.tm |
19:26 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
19:27 |
Calinou |
".tm" dat rare extesion |
19:27 |
Calinou |
extension* |
19:27 |
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test__ |
!up minetest.info.tm |
19:28 |
ShadowBot |
test__: minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
19:30 |
ShadowNinja |
I am restarting ShadowBot. |
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19:31 |
VanessaE |
ShadowBot: crash OS |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
;) |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: you should add something to SB that makes it say something like "you're not my REAL operator! piss off!" or some such :-) |
19:32 |
VanessaE |
(think of those silly cay pictures, "you're not my real mom!") |
19:32 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: INFO 2013-05-22T11:30:44 Not replying to crash, not a command. |
19:32 |
VanessaE |
heh |
19:32 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: alias add stfu "lobotomy add" |
19:33 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: stfu |
19:33 |
ShadowBot |
sfan5: The operation succeeded. |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: lobotomy remove |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
haha |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
umm |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: I don't know how to undo that |
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19:33 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: You made it ignore you. |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
:( |
19:33 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: lobotomy remove |
19:33 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. |
19:34 |
ShadowNinja |
Only owners can bypass lobotomies. |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
cue complaints from someone about us "abusing" the bot |
19:34 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: You could use a PM. |
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19:34 |
Calinou |
maybe, only allow using bot by PM |
19:34 |
BrandonReese |
!up mt.bremaweb.com:31000 |
19:34 |
ShadowBot |
BrandonReese: mt.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (0.377ms) |
19:34 |
Calinou |
to reduce abuse a bit |
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19:35 |
Calinou |
this way people would be less tempted |
19:35 |
sfan5 |
Where is MinetestBot |
19:35 |
Calinou |
on top of that people can't see which commands you input |
19:35 |
Calinou |
not on this network, sfan5 |
19:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: I will search the conf. I might be able to do that. |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: yeah, I guess so |
19:35 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: op MinetestBot |
19:35 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: stfu |
19:35 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. |
19:36 |
* VanessaE |
watches heavy storms flare up all around her on the radar (yet the sounds outside suggest barely anything of significance) |
19:36 |
StrayBytes |
I am watching the opposite. |
19:36 |
Calinou |
on the radar? |
19:36 |
StrayBytes |
Storm everywhere, radar clear. |
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19:36 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: sure, NOAA weather radar, what else? |
19:36 |
StrayBytes |
(I'm assuming doppler radar provided by local news agencise) |
19:36 |
Calinou |
I don't have anything like that |
19:37 |
* Calinou |
instead googles "how's the weather near me" |
19:37 |
StrayBytes |
Not your own radar. Unless you enjoy boating. |
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19:37 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I'm sure your country has such a thing |
19:37 |
StrayBytes |
And you can get radar images from weather sites. |
19:37 |
Calinou |
ah |
19:37 |
StrayBytes |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.accuweather.com%2Fen%2Ffr%2Fnational%2Fweather-radar&ei=bR6dUcerGJLV0gHOw4CADA&usg=AFQjCNHed7Lc59dxXWvWnaLkxyH_JXtLuA&bvm=bv.46751780,d.aGc |
19:37 |
StrayBytes |
Actually correct one: http://www.accuweather.com/en/fr/national/weather-radar |
19:37 |
StrayBytes |
Sorry about that. |
19:38 |
VanessaE |
there you go, that's actually a nicer one than I'm using here |
19:38 |
VanessaE |
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=MRX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes |
19:38 |
VanessaE |
(I'm in that next region west Asheville) |
19:40 |
sokomine |
just read in the forum "A new feature in the engine allows the power- and breakrail to connect to the normal rails" - does that mean that diffrent nodes can now connect through drawtype railike? that would be great for the homedecor shingles |
19:40 |
sokomine |
ah, and btw: hi :-) |
19:41 |
sokomine |
vanessa: what's up with your weather? ours isn't very nice at the moment either (ought to be much warmer) |
19:41 |
Jordach |
at least we don't get tornadoes |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: oh, just normal spring storms |
19:41 |
Jordach |
<- proud brit |
19:41 |
Calinou |
<- proud baguette |
19:42 |
StrayBytes |
<- proud american of a mix of almost every blood out there. |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: re rails: yes, except it requires a tweak to the node def to enable an extra flag. Not sure I want to do that, rather I want to eventually transition over to some kind of custom draw type for roof shingles. |
19:42 |
Calinou |
no, you're a proud 660 ti owner |
19:42 |
Calinou |
:> <: :> |
19:42 |
sokomine |
jordach: i was a bit amazed at how much of them seem to be around in the us while here one doesn't hear about them. i read somewhere that they happen equally likely here...but as the land area is much smaller fewer are encounterd |
19:42 |
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19:42 |
StrayBytes |
Sold used. Not much need for it. |
19:42 |
Calinou |
ah |
19:43 |
Calinou |
did you get your titan? :P |
19:43 |
StrayBytes |
No. I spend the money on a new erg instead. |
19:43 |
sokomine |
vanessa: hm, a custom drawtype would be nice as well |
19:43 |
sokomine |
maybe one that can cover edges all by itshelf |
19:43 |
StrayBytes |
(erg=indoor rowing machine=medieval torture device) |
19:43 |
Calinou |
erg? |
19:43 |
Calinou |
ah |
19:43 |
Calinou |
heh |
19:43 |
StrayBytes |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_rower |
19:44 |
VanessaE |
tornadoes happen in the US because of our two mountain ranges. They funnel cold air from canada down to meet warm moist air from the gulf of mexico, and warm dry air from our southwest. The result is quite volatile in the spring, especially for the states of kansas, oklahoma, and missouri |
19:44 |
StrayBytes |
Even the appearance is menacing. I spent 8 hours on one at a town event for a publicity stunt to get more funding. |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
over here in north carolina, we have a much less strong combination of airmasses because of the lack of a large region of warm, dry air as in the midwest |
19:45 |
Calinou |
read: kickstarter IRL |
19:45 |
StrayBytes |
To me? |
19:45 |
StrayBytes |
If you've never tried one, don't. |
19:46 |
StrayBytes |
It's torture and an addictive activity at the same time. The numbers are TOO motivating. |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: so in the midwest, they get huge, hundreds-of-kilometers-long storm systems along the sharpest of those airmass boundaries (what we call a "dry line") |
19:46 |
sokomine |
we do have the gulf stream that usually leads to much more...equalized...and warmer weather than what we'd otherwise get. extreme weather conditions are rare |
19:46 |
sokomine |
mostly it's flooding in spring when rivers go over the sides |
19:49 |
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19:50 |
sokomine |
hi taoki |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
hey Taoki |
19:53 |
Calinou |
hi Taoki |
19:53 |
Jordach |
hey Taoki |
19:54 |
Taoki |
o.O |
19:54 |
Jordach |
Taoki, finished my model |
19:54 |
* Taoki |
suddenly highlighted by a dozen people |
19:54 |
Jordach |
Taoki, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91359#p91359 |
19:55 |
Jordach |
if you now type pilzadam into google |
19:55 |
Jordach |
you get pilzadam carts as a suggestion |
19:55 |
Jordach |
people like your mod PilzAdam |
19:55 |
PilzAdam |
\o/ |
19:55 |
PilzAdam |
btw: huuuuge MiniTest update |
19:57 |
Jordach |
you know, with proper code :> |
19:57 |
Jordach |
yes, i just slammed jojoa |
19:57 |
Jordach |
with an iron fist |
19:57 |
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19:57 |
Calinou |
https://startpage.com/do/search?query=more+blocks |
19:57 |
kaeza |
greetings |
19:57 |
Calinou |
fuck. |
19:57 |
Jordach |
hey kaeza |
19:58 |
Calinou |
hi kaeza |
19:58 |
Calinou |
https://startpage.com/do/search?query=moreblocks |
19:58 |
Calinou |
oOooOOoO this works |
19:58 |
Jordach |
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
19:58 |
Jordach |
startpage |
19:58 |
Calinou |
ftw |
19:58 |
Calinou |
google without downsides |
19:58 |
Jordach |
dont you use about:newtab or chrome:newtab |
19:58 |
Calinou |
chrome:newtab |
19:58 |
Calinou |
but I'm not logged in to chromium |
19:59 |
sfan5 |
!c 15 / 2 |
19:59 |
MinetestBot |
7.5 |
19:59 |
kaeza |
Calinou, third result on startpage |
19:59 |
kaeza |
notbad.jpg |
20:00 |
Jordach |
([off] disables loggingbot_ from recording this.) |
20:00 |
kaeza |
you just spoiled that :( |
20:01 |
Jordach |
useful for plans that you dont want ruineed |
20:01 |
Jordach |
ruined* |
20:01 |
PilzAdam |
:-( |
20:02 |
Jordach |
i could in theory talk shit about someone and no one will know...except for personal logs |
20:02 |
Jordach |
props to thexyz for teaching me [off] |
20:02 |
VanessaE |
and now he needs to disable it |
20:03 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, thats a feature |
20:03 |
kaeza |
ah while we're at it, hi Taoki |
20:03 |
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20:03 |
Jordach |
heye Evergreen |
20:03 |
Jordach |
-e |
20:03 |
* kaeza |
is late to the party |
20:03 |
Evergreen |
Hi Jordach |
20:03 |
Taoki |
hi |
20:03 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, still, there are 87 other people that log the channel |
20:03 |
Jordach |
Taoki, seen my model? |
20:04 |
Evergreen |
How are the Miku Miku animations coming? |
20:04 |
Taoki |
not now |
20:04 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, pulling yt link |
20:04 |
Calinou |
no: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=more+ores |
20:04 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiyPrv3-SRI&feature=youtu.be |
20:04 |
Calinou |
yey!: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=moreores |
20:04 |
Calinou |
:-) |
20:04 |
Jordach |
dammit Calinou |
20:04 |
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20:04 |
Taoki |
ok, looks nice :) |
20:04 |
Evergreen |
I saw it. :P It's pretty good |
20:04 |
Calinou |
hi Evergreen |
20:04 |
Jordach |
its a possible player model |
20:04 |
Evergreen |
Hi |
20:04 |
Evergreen |
Cool |
20:05 |
Jordach |
anyways ill be here but in bed |
20:05 |
Jordach |
(idling |
20:05 |
Jordach |
)* |
20:05 |
jojoa1997 |
could someone update the compiling for windows in README.txt in minetest-master |
20:05 |
Calinou |
minetest Jordach edition: play as gardevoir |
20:05 |
Calinou |
we need minetest Taoki edition now, play as pony |
20:05 |
Evergreen |
Why not? x) |
20:05 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997, update? |
20:06 |
Taoki |
Calinou: Oh... there will be a whole MLP game mode for MineTest :) But later when I have the time |
20:06 |
Calinou |
compiling for windows? incompatible words you've got there :P |
20:06 |
kaeza |
minetest Calinou edition: moar HATS! |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
Compiling on Windows: |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
--------------------- |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- This section is outdated. In addition to what is described here: |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- In addition to minetest, you need to download minetest_game. |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- If you wish to have sound support, you need libogg, libvorbis and libopenal |
20:06 |
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20:06 |
kaeza |
lol |
20:06 |
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20:06 |
kaeza |
thanks ShadowBot |
20:06 |
Calinou |
better get virtualbox, install xubuntu, compile, ???, PROFIT |
20:06 |
Calinou |
that's what I did before switching to linux |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
Compiling on Windows: |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
--------------------- |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- This section is outdated. In addition to what is described here: |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- In addition to minetest, you need to download minetest_game. |
20:06 |
jojoa1997 |
- If you wish to have sound support, you need libogg, libvorbis and libopenal |
20:06 |
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20:06 |
kaeza |
... |
20:06 |
Evergreen |
... |
20:07 |
jojoa1997 |
i dont get it i waited 5 seconds |
20:07 |
* Calinou |
switches to flamer + shotgun |
20:07 |
* Calinou |
prepares fireball |
20:07 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: don't pasteflood, period. |
20:07 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, PIYF |
20:07 |
kaeza |
PBIYF* |
20:07 |
jojoa1997 |
k |
20:07 |
Calinou |
pretty bunnies if you find |
20:07 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: now now. |
20:08 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE why no diamond hoes |
20:08 |
Calinou |
because |
20:08 |
kaeza |
random |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: because we have enough tools already? |
20:08 |
Calinou |
however, are there bronze hoes? they should be fine |
20:08 |
Calinou |
while diamond hoes don't make sense, bronze hoes do |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I believe so; wood, stone, bronze, and steel |
20:09 |
Calinou |
k |
20:09 |
jojoa1997 |
but |
20:09 |
kaeza |
mese hoes? |
20:09 |
Calinou |
butts |
20:09 |
jojoa1997 |
We have diamond tools with everything else |
20:09 |
VanessaE |
why does every tool have to be available in every material!? |
20:09 |
jojoa1997 |
also they look nice |
20:09 |
jojoa1997 |
becuase it makes sense |
20:09 |
Evergreen |
... way to ruin the conversation Calinou |
20:10 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, <celeron55> because random |
20:10 |
Calinou |
Evergreen, this statement is tralse. |
20:10 |
VanessaE |
I mean, shit, we have picks made of dirt for crying out loud |
20:10 |
Calinou |
q66 approves :3 |
20:10 |
ShadowNinja |
My mods won't load :-( I have then symlinked in /home/minetest/server/mods. What have I done wrong? The game runs. |
20:10 |
Evergreen |
I agree with jojoa |
20:10 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja, lastest git? |
20:10 |
jojoa1997 |
well has anyone heard of continuity and everyone=Vanessae :P |
20:10 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Yes. |
20:10 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: enable them in the "configure" dialog? |
20:10 |
Calinou |
run in place? |
20:11 |
Calinou |
also, enable them in configure dialog |
20:11 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, how do you do that on a server, by the way? O_o |
20:11 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: No. Is there a cli way to do that? |
20:11 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: consistency is fine as long as you don't take it to the logical extreme |
20:11 |
jojoa1997 |
well i think diamond hoes would be better than bronze |
20:11 |
* Calinou |
takes one sock from jojoa1997 |
20:11 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: by default, mods are enabled on a server, at least if you're running minetestserver separately. |
20:11 |
kaeza |
Calinou, ShadowNinja, load_mod_modname = true in mapmeta.txt |
20:11 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997 removes his other sock because of consistency :3 |
20:11 |
kaeza |
(or smth like that) |
20:12 |
ShadowNinja |
some %s/false/true vim magic. |
20:12 |
* Calinou |
ate 1,1 million candies recently, now ate 7,649,161 candies, 1290 HP |
20:12 |
Calinou |
I annoyed the candy merchant too :3 |
20:12 |
* kaeza |
are 20098483 candies |
20:13 |
StrayBytes |
I've eaten 58118051 |
20:13 |
Calinou |
O_o |
20:13 |
Calinou |
hax |
20:13 |
Calinou |
are you running it 24/7 or what :P |
20:13 |
kaeza |
1851 HP |
20:13 |
Calinou |
well, nice |
20:13 |
StrayBytes |
2778 HP. And I keep it running. |
20:13 |
Calinou |
I don't |
20:13 |
Calinou |
not wasting power for a game :x |
20:14 |
Evergreen |
I made a bash script that auto compiles minetest from github, and I'm going to make it so you can specify a directory. |
20:14 |
Evergreen |
Anyone want me to release it when I'm done? :P |
20:15 |
Calinou |
old news |
20:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Evergreen: There are already a few of those. |
20:15 |
Calinou |
I did that 3 months ago, Evergreen |
20:15 |
Calinou |
"general discussion" sticky |
20:15 |
Calinou |
also installs deps for you |
20:15 |
Evergreen |
Alright, fine. Did you release it though Calinou? |
20:15 |
ShadowNinja |
^ for debian based distrobutions with apt. |
20:15 |
Evergreen |
nvm |
20:16 |
Calinou |
of course |
20:16 |
VanessaE |
I use one I wrote for the purpose a while back |
20:16 |
Calinou |
apt is the most used format by far |
20:16 |
Calinou |
70% of people probably |
20:16 |
Calinou |
at least :P |
20:16 |
Calinou |
and I find it fine, so I stick with it |
20:16 |
proller |
hp from candies? |
20:17 |
Calinou |
you get HP when eating candies |
20:17 |
Evergreen |
Except the apt repositories are really outdated for some things in ubuntu. |
20:17 |
Calinou |
they are fairly up to date |
20:17 |
Calinou |
few distros do better, or they harm stability a lot when doing so |
20:17 |
* Calinou |
looks at harsh linux |
20:17 |
Evergreen |
Not for minetest they aren't |
20:17 |
Calinou |
who cares? |
20:17 |
Calinou |
packages do not give a fuff for gaming on linux |
20:17 |
jojoa1997 |
Evergreen not windows right? |
20:18 |
Calinou |
it's 2013 and xonotic is not packaged for debian and ubuntu |
20:18 |
Calinou |
game released in december 2010 |
20:18 |
Calinou |
s/packages/packagers |
20:18 |
Evergreen |
No, I run ubuntu |
20:18 |
Calinou |
xubuntu 13.04 here 8) |
20:18 |
* ShadowNinja |
has it in his oficial repos |
20:19 |
Evergreen |
I useUbuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 with Unity desktop manager. |
20:19 |
Calinou |
a desktop manager is what lets you log in graphically |
20:19 |
Calinou |
lightdm by default on buntus |
20:19 |
Calinou |
desktop environment, DE is the desktop, and window manager, WM, manages windows and decorates them |
20:19 |
Calinou |
also, you can use PPAs :P |
20:19 |
Calinou |
there's no SDL 2 in ubuntu repos, I use a PPA and it works fine |
20:19 |
kaeza |
Evergreen, Unity?? |
20:19 |
kaeza |
kill that thing with fire |
20:19 |
kaeza |
Ubuntu 12.04 + Xfce4 here |
20:20 |
Evergreen |
Yes, Unity. |
20:20 |
Calinou |
some people like unity |
20:21 |
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20:21 |
Calinou |
I don't, but if unity will be the only DE available when mir is ready for use (read: it has nvidia driver), I would use it |
20:22 |
Evergreen |
Well, I'm bored. I'll be inactive. |
20:22 |
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20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
lxdm+xfce4 on Arch Linux here. |
20:27 |
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20:28 |
Evergreen |
My friend has Kubuntu with the kde desktop manager. Idk what version though. |
20:29 |
PilzAdam |
KDE FTW! |
20:29 |
thexyz |
xfce4 as well |
20:29 |
thexyz |
the only problem is tearing |
20:29 |
Calinou |
no tearing here |
20:30 |
Calinou |
(maybe a bit when moving windows but I don't care) |
20:30 |
Calinou |
enable "sync to vblank" if you don't care about latency in your nvidia driver settings :P |
20:30 |
Calinou |
sadly vsync implies some latency, but fixes tearing |
20:30 |
Calinou |
it can also look more fluid |
20:30 |
Evergreen |
I just looked, and I saw you had copyright problems with minitest Adam. |
20:31 |
Calinou |
no, jojoa1997 just said everything was copyright PilzAdam |
20:31 |
Calinou |
that's usual jojoa1997 |
20:31 |
Evergreen |
I wish people wouldn't rip minecraft TPs without getting support from the authors. |
20:31 |
Evergreen |
That's why I love TestBDcraft |
20:31 |
* Calinou |
makes inception look to Evergreen |
20:32 |
Evergreen |
It's cool that a texture pack is actually being supported by the author. I always wanted the oCd texture pack to be converted, and I hope to get permission from the author. |
20:32 |
thexyz |
Calinou: that didn't work for me |
20:33 |
thexyz |
`dcompmgr --gl` solved the issue though |
20:33 |
* Evergreen |
is inactive |
20:33 |
thexyz |
no tearing at all now |
20:35 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, no, I dont have any problems |
20:35 |
Calinou |
Evergreen, AMD approves |
20:35 |
Calinou |
radeon driver, supported by AMD but slow |
20:35 |
PilzAdam |
I wanted to rewrite it anyways |
20:35 |
Calinou |
catalyst driver, supported by AMD but buggy and slow |
20:35 |
Calinou |
:> <: :> <: :> |
20:35 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997 has problems, though |
20:36 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam what? |
20:36 |
PilzAdam |
the copyright thing with MiniTest |
20:36 |
jojoa1997 |
oh yeah |
20:36 |
PilzAdam |
or proper author mentioning or whatever you want to call it |
20:37 |
jojoa1997 |
ok what file |
20:38 |
jojoa1997 |
what file is the problem? |
20:38 |
PilzAdam |
the README.txt says, that ever mod that contains no readme is by me, and under WTFPL |
20:38 |
PilzAdam |
that is clearly not the case in your version |
20:38 |
jojoa1997 |
that is what you had |
20:38 |
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20:38 |
jojoa1997 |
is this better |
20:38 |
jojoa1997 |
Mods without a README.txt are from PilzAdam or jojoa1997 and under the WTFPL (all parts). |
20:38 |
PilzAdam |
no |
20:38 |
PilzAdam |
because thats not clear enough |
20:39 |
jojoa1997 |
well you had they were all WTFPL |
20:39 |
PilzAdam |
just add a readme to all the mods that are by me |
20:39 |
jojoa1997 |
hay i didnt make it you did |
20:39 |
jojoa1997 |
ok i will add a thing underneath |
20:40 |
Evergreen |
Well, got to go. By everyone. |
20:41 |
jojoa1997 |
there |
20:41 |
jojoa1997 |
your 3 mods are added |
20:41 |
jojoa1997 |
and if you looked in the changelog.txt you would see that i document what pople added to the mod |
20:42 |
Calinou |
night |
20:42 |
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20:43 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997, I guess it would be best if every mod contains a README |
20:43 |
PilzAdam |
(like in my current version of MiniTest at github) |
20:43 |
jojoa1997 |
not really |
20:44 |
PilzAdam |
(like in my current version of MiniTest at github) |
20:44 |
PilzAdam |
ooops |
20:44 |
PilzAdam |
yes really |
20:44 |
jojoa1997 |
because i change about half of all the mods i add so having one file to show who did what works better |
20:44 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam you repeated yourself |
20:44 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> ooops |
20:45 |
jojoa1997 |
<jojoa1997> because i change about half of all the mods i add so having one file to show who did what works better |
20:45 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah so that is why i keep one file |
20:45 |
RealBadAngel |
http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#13 and http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#14 |
20:45 |
jojoa1997 |
and i added your mods in a list so it is fine |
20:45 |
RealBadAngel |
im playin with normal maps further |
20:45 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, why do I need to enable JS to view the images? |
20:46 |
thexyz |
why would you disable it? |
20:46 |
RealBadAngel |
ask imgur.com stuff not me ;) |
20:46 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, security |
20:46 |
RealBadAngel |
i find that site useful |
20:47 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, security? do not browse as root, thats all the policy ;) |
20:47 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: noscript, whitelist. |
20:47 |
VanessaE |
problem solved. |
20:47 |
PilzAdam |
I use noscript |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
so whitelist just enough of imgur to let the images through |
20:48 |
PilzAdam |
!deop VanessaE |
20:48 |
PilzAdam |
>:-) |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
!deop PilzAdam |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
:P |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
(not that you had it) |
20:49 |
RealBadAngel |
op him 1st ;) |
20:49 |
thexyz |
how does disabling javascript help your security? |
20:49 |
PilzAdam |
it hinders websites from executing possibly harmful code |
20:50 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, i found out that when creating map, end effect can be much nicer when you choose a color layer to bump |
20:50 |
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20:50 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: *nod* or with multiple image layers |
20:51 |
RealBadAngel |
also for sharp edges like on diamon block or ice: small sampling size like 3x3, height>30 and just one color layer |
20:52 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: harmful code? |
20:52 |
whirm1 |
noscript + tomoyo here :D |
20:52 |
thexyz |
well, whatever |
20:54 |
RealBadAngel |
so, PilzAdam, have you managed to see the pictures? :) |
20:54 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
20:54 |
RealBadAngel |
any comments? |
20:54 |
jojoa1997 |
why did my favorites disapear |
20:54 |
jojoa1997 |
in minetest |
20:54 |
RealBadAngel |
jojoa1997, its a kind of magic ;) |
20:54 |
jojoa1997 |
wait nvm |
20:55 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
i deleted the server list |
20:55 |
RealBadAngel |
told ya |
20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
also why does it take me forever to get on sfan5's server when it is meant to be on? |
20:56 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: dunno |
20:56 |
jojoa1997 |
-.- |
20:56 |
RealBadAngel |
forever? compare it just to an age of the universe |
20:57 |
jojoa1997 |
i connect to VanessaE's server faster |
20:57 |
RealBadAngel |
you will find it way faster then |
20:57 |
jojoa1997 |
and that takes FOREVER^FOREVER |
20:57 |
VanessaE |
someone can connect to my server faster than another? *shock* |
20:57 |
VanessaE |
even I can't connect to my own server particularly fast sometimes :) |
20:57 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah i cant even connect to sfan5's |
20:58 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: umm |
20:58 |
jojoa1997 |
though VanessaE that doesnt mean connecting to yours takes a long time too |
20:58 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5<->jojoa compability issues? ;) |
20:58 |
jojoa1997 |
!up sfan5.dyns.org:30000 |
20:58 |
MinetestBot |
jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
20:58 |
jojoa1997 |
!up sfan5.dyns.org 30000 |
20:58 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down |
20:58 |
jojoa1997 |
see |
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20:59 |
jojoa1997 |
wait what is your sever info again? |
20:59 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: 1) its dyndns.org 2) the server it now at sfan5.minetest.net 3) it was port 30001 |
20:59 |
VanessaE |
that would explain why he couldn't connect |
20:59 |
jojoa1997 |
!up sfan5.minetest.net 30001 |
20:59 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5.minetest.net:30001 is up (0.497s) |
21:00 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997: the SimpleHTTPServer for remote_media crashed, that also made it slower |
21:00 |
jojoa1997 |
also why are you on minetest.net |
21:00 |
sfan5 |
because I bought minetest.net ,you know.. |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
oh i didnt |
21:01 |
sfan5 |
no, you can register your own domain on minetest.net at freedns.afraid.org |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
realy? |
21:01 |
sfan5 |
yes |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
really? |
21:01 |
sfan5 |
yes |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
soot |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
shoot |
21:01 |
jojoa1997 |
i cant portforward to computer so nvm |
21:03 |
VanessaE |
why do you even need to |
21:03 |
VanessaE |
? |
21:03 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE has a point |
21:03 |
jojoa1997 |
to host a server |
21:03 |
VanessaE |
I swear, all this "how do I port forward" shit drives me nuts! |
21:03 |
jojoa1997 |
also how come i can dig on your server? |
21:03 |
VanessaE |
just connect your damn modem directly to your damn computer. |
21:04 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE not when you have family using it also |
21:04 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: I have two computers and two other devices that share my net. My husband and I quite commonly use the net at the same time. |
21:04 |
PilzAdam |
sooooo... has anyone tried the new MiniTest yet? |
21:04 |
VanessaE |
I did this unique, fabulous, insane thing called putting two NICs in my computer so it can act as the router. |
21:05 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: as for digging (or not?) you're probably not really at where you think you're at - sign out and back in maybe. |
21:05 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam you updated? |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
I have rewritten the whole thing |
21:05 |
PilzAdam |
(see forum thread) |
21:05 |
jojoa1997 |
kk |
21:06 |
RealBadAngel |
btw do we have tnt in minetest_game? |
21:06 |
PilzAdam |
no, but in MiniTest ;-) |
21:06 |
RealBadAngel |
so why i can see textures for it in default? |
21:06 |
VanessaE |
please don't *ever* add tnt to minetest_game (unless it is as a mod i can delete) |
21:06 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, I guess the only one who knows is c55 |
21:07 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, dont like TNT? |
21:07 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I don't like destructive things :-) |
21:07 |
RealBadAngel |
she's she |
21:07 |
RealBadAngel |
dats why ;) |
21:08 |
VanessaE |
people abuse lava as it is. tnt would just be 10 times worse |
21:08 |
jojoa1997 |
also pilzadam what heavy copyright problems |
21:08 |
jojoa1997 |
if anything i was giving you credit for what i did via WTFPL |
21:09 |
PilzAdam |
well, I exaggerated a bit :-) |
21:09 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah you did |
21:09 |
jojoa1997 |
a bit^FOREVER |
21:10 |
jojoa1997 |
also i suggest adding diamond hoes to your minitest |
21:10 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, somebody shall code candies as minetest mod |
21:10 |
jojoa1997 |
if you didnt |
21:10 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: I already suggested that to jin_xi |
21:10 |
jojoa1997 |
will hunger be added anytime soon |
21:10 |
VanessaE |
I hope not. |
21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
then poeple can really add food to survive |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997, already done :-) |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
(the diamond hoes) |
21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
with the ability to op out of hunger |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
also gold |
21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
k |
21:11 |
RealBadAngel |
jojoa1997, it was added already. had to make 3 sandwiches to kill it |
21:11 |
PilzAdam |
no hunger, no xp, no non alpha shit |
21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
also i think diamond hoes should be added to minetest_game |
21:11 |
VanessaE |
oh you meant minitest, ok |
21:12 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
also hunger should be added to minetest but disabled by default |
21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
but it should be configurable ingame |
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21:15 |
jojoa1997 |
also how come no hunger pilzadam i thought you wanted survival aspects |
21:15 |
jojoa1997 |
and right now food is really just for looks |
21:15 |
sfan5 |
good night |
21:15 |
jojoa1997 |
night |
21:20 |
* ShadowNinja |
likes FreeDNS ,,(un shadowninja.minetest.net) |
21:20 |
ShadowNinja |
!up shadowninja.minetest.net |
21:20 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.203ms) |
21:20 |
MinetestBot |
shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.348s) |
21:21 |
ShadowNinja |
Oops. Forgot that. |
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21:53 |
* Jordach |
yawns |
21:54 |
Jordach |
you dont think i check my pc when its on over night? |
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22:42 |
jojoa1997 |
PilzAdam have you thought of making a better model for carts? |
22:42 |
PilzAdam |
no |
22:42 |
jojoa1997 |
ok |
22:45 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997, why do you want a link here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91408#p91408 ? |
22:45 |
jojoa1997 |
what is that |
22:46 |
jojoa1997 |
i cant see it on pc |
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OWNSyouAll_DESKT |
test |
22:48 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, happy 2500th post! |
22:48 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91416#p91416 |
22:49 |
PilzAdam |
2501 :p |
22:49 |
* kaeza |
has 997 posts :3 |
22:49 |
* PilzAdam |
is hunting for Jordach |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
I am the <insert something that Jorach isnt> with the most forum posts! |
22:52 |
khonkhortisan |
hi deskt |
22:53 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, you are the "Developer" with the most and the least forum posts at the same time! |
22:54 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
22:54 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=&show_group=5&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=DESC&search=Search |
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22:54 |
PilzAdam |
!kick ShadowBot |
22:54 |
PilzAdam |
>:( |
22:54 |
kaeza |
wut |
22:55 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, fix ShadowBot |
22:55 |
kaeza |
flood detection needs a few tweaks |
22:55 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
22:55 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
22:55 |
PilzAdam |
!kick ShadowBot |
22:56 |
PilzAdam |
!kick ShadowBot Fix your flood detection |
22:56 |
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ShadowBot was kicked by MinetestBot: Fix |
22:56 |
PilzAdam |
there we go |
22:57 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, ^ fix the message of !kick with multiple words |
23:00 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
23:03 |
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23:05 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: I had that issue. Use (["KICK", channel, target], message) instead of having it all inside the list. |
23:07 |
ShadowNinja |
I don't think that paste detection can realy be made much better. At least without adding a lot more complexity. I have disabled it. |
23:08 |
* VanessaE |
is back. |
23:09 |
ShadowNinja |
Someone requested a password reset for my minetest.net account... First time that has happened to me. But minetest.net has a good ratio of popularity/number of accounts for that. |
23:10 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, SSL would be nice... |
23:12 |
* ShadowNinja |
sets a better password |
23:19 |
khonkhortisan |
!kick khonkhortisan "multiple word test" |
23:24 |
ShadowNinja |
khonkhortisan: That would kick with a message of "multiple |
23:25 |
ShadowNinja |
maybe !kick x :multiple words |
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