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00:54 StrayBytes Hexafraction has caused a bit of hell, and so I have taken down my public WiFi network.
00:54 StrayBytes Sadly I can no longer help out my community with public WiFi.
00:54 StrayBytes I'd like to be delisted now.
00:55 StrayBytes No, seriously. I can take no responsibility for one idiot's actions.
00:58 StrayBytes I request at least a response. I'm not your police, I'm not hex's police. I have nothing to do with this, yet I am here sorting things out in this channel. I could be erging instead, yet I am here dealing with script kiddies that decide to use my public WiFi for malicious reasons.
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01:01 Kacey okay, breathe... must remember: I'm not allowed to throw bricks at people just because they piss me off... breathe.. BREATHE... ah F*ck it! I'm gonna throw it!
01:01 StrayBytes I'm the arbitrator, not the attacker.
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01:05 * StrayBytes is away: Away
01:06 * StrayBytes is away: Busy.
01:07 kaeza wat
01:08 * StrayBytes is away: Busy.
01:09 kaeza could you please stop away-message-spamming?
01:09 Exio StrayBytes: that is why you can't be nice in real life
01:09 Exio outside that
01:09 StrayBytes My client away-messages based on one channel.
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01:10 kaeza bleh
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01:19 Menche anyone know how to get inventory_plus? 0gb.us' link is broken.
01:19 Menche can't find his account, much less the repo
01:21 OldCoder Menche, I have all the mods
01:21 OldCoder You need i+ ?
01:21 Menche yeah
01:21 Menche is 0gb.us not maintaining it anymore?
01:21 OldCoder om == one moment
01:22 OldCoder I have an inventory plus from January
01:22 OldCoder is that too old?
01:23 Menche idk, would specialties and inventory_warps work with it?
01:24 OldCoder http://minetest.org/inventory_plus.zip
01:24 OldCoder Check that while I check elsewhere
01:24 Menche thanks
01:24 Menche jojoa has a repo of it also
01:25 Menche https://github.com/jojoa1997/0gb.us-repo
01:25 Menche doesn't look like jojoa was actually maintaining it though, just hosting it
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02:16 kaeza VanessaE, around?
02:19 VanessaE yes
02:19 VanessaE just walked back in.
02:22 kaeza I noticed formatting and indentatino in homedecor is heavily fucked up (mostly due to my using of spaces while you use tabs). mind if I fix all of that?
02:23 VanessaE go for it, though I'm not anal about tabs vs. spaces so much as certain others are ;)
02:23 VanessaE I've taken to using 1 tab = 4 spaces
02:24 VanessaE (though my code is hardly consistent on that point)
02:24 kaeza I know, but it makes it easier to read :)
02:25 VanessaE true
02:25 kaeza also, my old editor (jEdit) has a bad tendency to break things that don't use indentation consistently
02:25 VanessaE I use gedit
02:25 kaeza I nuked the sucker
02:25 kaeza geany FTW
02:28 drizz pff
02:28 drizz vim
02:28 VanessaE *puke*
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02:29 kaeza butterflies!
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02:32 Menche was stairsplus merged into moreblocks?
02:33 VanessaE yes, a while back.
02:33 VanessaE along with sokomine's circular saw
02:33 Menche i installed the latest moreblocks, and i have tons of unknown nodes
02:33 Menche which were previously from stairsplus
02:33 VanessaE strange
02:34 VanessaE it uses a bunch of abms to convert the old blocks over to the new model
02:40 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91249#p91249
02:40 VanessaE *stomps foot*
02:43 drizz fun fact: I'm concinved that rarkenin *is* hexafraction
02:46 drizz I swear, this bee is completely and utterly retarded
02:46 drizz it's been in my apartment for about a day now
02:46 VanessaE heh
02:47 drizz every time it's been buzzing around my french door, and I've oppened it, it just goes hurrr durrr and flies away
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02:54 VanessaE bbl
02:56 drizz SERIOUSLY
02:56 drizz was going out of my way trying to get it in a cup to get it out
02:56 drizz and it just flew into my light, got stuck to the bulb and burned to death :(
03:23 kaeza 22 files changed, 2530 insertions(+), 2554 deletions(-)
03:23 kaeza :3
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04:53 khonkhortisan And to think there was only an Eat all the candies button
05:15 drizz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l7pwhE-xiY
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09:18 OldCoder Hi
09:18 OldCoder My hours today will probably be 4:00am to 6:00pm (14 hours) Pacific Time except for meetings
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10:43 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:44 arsdragonfly Hi
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10:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Exio, PilzAdam sorry for blowing things up. My stress level was very very high and the current way i was doing things not working with the new modsystem  just lit the fuse. Also the new way is better.
10:58 jojoa1997|Tablet Also with the new farming added does that mean wool is available cause i havent tried
10:59 PilzAdam yes
11:00 PilzAdam I managed to get wool in all 15 colors in survival gameplay
11:00 PilzAdam it takes 10 minutes or so
11:00 jojoa1997|Tablet goozd
11:02 jojoa1997|Tablet will diamond hoes be added?
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11:05 proller PilzAdam, you make bones?
11:05 PilzAdam hm?
11:07 proller i want option to not leave bones block if player have empty inventory
11:07 iqualfragile VanessaE: do you know who exactly has a server wich was register-flooded?
11:07 PilzAdam proller, that doesnt really make sense
11:08 proller on my server thousands bones blocks
11:08 proller more frequent than stone near spawn 8)
11:08 PilzAdam why do people die so often then?
11:08 PilzAdam also, others can dig them and use them for decoration
11:09 PilzAdam (after 20 minutes or so)
11:09 proller look at Sky hardcore
11:09 proller hard spawn on high mountain
11:10 PilzAdam connecting...
11:11 PilzAdam oh, I was on this server once, so I didnt spawn at the spawn
11:12 PilzAdam can you teleport me there?
11:12 PilzAdam or grant me fly privs?
11:13 proller now - no
11:13 proller have 500 byter per second connection 8)
11:13 proller bytes
11:14 proller just die
11:18 PilzAdam I dont see that many bones
11:19 PilzAdam and is it normal that there is a teleporter at the spawn that brings you into a desert?
11:19 PilzAdam (you cant go into the sky world because of a locked door)
11:21 proller 8(
11:21 proller somebody make spawn simpler
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11:22 proller i can show you bones mountain at next monday
11:24 PilzAdam proller, ok
11:31 Calinou PilzAdam: uhuh, sky hardcore
11:31 Calinou elementary OS is more important
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12:13 VanessaE iqualfragile: look at the servers list (minetest.net/servers). Any of those with more than about 20 was flooded, including mine and uplink.io.
12:13 iqualfragile oh, wonderfull
12:13 VanessaE also, good morning
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12:26 rubenwardy Hi guys!
12:26 * rubenwardy felt like a change in greets
12:26 rubenwardy *greetings
12:31 rubenwardy spam post not deleted: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6073#
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12:54 rubenwardy How is landmine unbanned?
12:58 PilzAdam rubenwardy, the ban was set to expire after 10 days
12:58 rubenwardy ah
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13:25 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to minetest/minetest: Make raillike nodes connect to any other raillike nodes if both are in the group connect_to_raillike 3abbe7efd1 2013-05-22T06:08:24-07:00 http://git.io/N3PEoQ
13:25 xiong Ah, I don't see how to use bronze. Historically (not that need follow) bronze superseded copper and was in turn superseded by iron. But then real bronze is a copper-tin alloy, both ores easily smelted compared to most iron ores. So the win for bronze, in its time, was it was accessible at a lower level of tech.
13:26 xiong But the minetest bronze is an alloy of copper and iron; and if I already have the iron, why would I trade down to the less-durable bronze??
13:26 VanessaE xiong: we've argued that one 'till we're blue in the face.  it should indeed be tin+copper, but well..guess others don't like the idea.
13:26 xiong As I say... no need to follow RL. But in this game, what do I do with the bronze?
13:27 VanessaE it can be used to make a few tools
13:27 PilzAdam xiong, copper is an "add on" for steel, wich gives it more uses
13:27 VanessaE picks, hoes, etc.
13:27 PilzAdam more uses == dig more stone until it breaks
13:28 xiong PilzAdam, ah, that's not what I'm seeing. Bronze pickaxe, 30 uses; steel pickaxe, 333 uses.
13:28 xiong http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Pickaxe
13:28 xiong Hence my puzzlement.
13:28 PilzAdam thats wrong
13:28 xiong Okay, I'll buy that.
13:29 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/tools.lua#L48
13:29 xiong Also: Are there any mobs at all in the 0.4.6 world? I have yet to be attacked -- granted, I'm careful... but not that wise.
13:30 VanessaE no
13:31 xiong Okay... have you got any into nightly yet? Also: hoes, farms, eatable animals?
13:31 PilzAdam Fatal error: Activity in #minetest-delta
13:31 xiong Oops, that's not usually good.
13:32 VanessaE didn't know anyone still used that channel
13:32 xiong Also: Why no drowning? Underwater mining is absurdly easy; now I wonder why I bother to dig down through hard rock.
13:32 VanessaE there's a mod for that.
13:32 PilzAdam there are mods for everything
13:32 PilzAdam mobs, drowning, farming, whatever
13:33 VanessaE PilzAdam: didn't you know, that's the new "there's an app for that" :-)
13:33 PilzAdam farming will be officialy in 0.4.7, though
13:33 xiong Is it the intention of minetest to fork minecraft, to take a different development route?
13:33 PilzAdam Minetest is not a fork of Minecraft
13:33 xiong Or is it just the practice to implement features first as mods before integration?
13:34 xiong ... to fork the gameplay, to drive toward a different thing?
13:34 PilzAdam we have a pretty good API for mods, and mod creators are usually faster than core development
13:34 xiong I'm not asking if the codebase forked; I'd ask that in #minetest-dev.
13:35 xiong I'm not asking my question well, sorry.
13:35 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91327#p91327
13:36 xiong Is there consensus among minetest devs whether minetest should eventually play the same as minecraft or go in a different direction?
13:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: dealt.
13:36 PilzAdam xiong, no
13:36 xiong Ah.
13:36 PilzAdam some aim for a game similiar to Minecraft alpha
13:36 xiong That explains much.
13:37 PilzAdam Minetest definetly is similiar to Minecraft
13:37 PilzAdam but some people dont want to believe that for some reason
13:37 xiong Understand. Very easy to understand.
13:38 PilzAdam but we definetly never ever will have potions or "the end" or something like this in minetest_game
13:38 xiong Kudos to the devs who worked on the game as it is; it's extremely stable.
13:38 PilzAdam stable but boring ;-)
13:38 PilzAdam minetest_game also kinda is a platform for all the mods in the forum
13:38 xiong Stable but boring wins, for me, over exciting but crashes, possibly locking up my machine on the way down.
13:39 PilzAdam many people think that Minetest is unplayable without mods
13:39 RealBadAngel as many as think the same bout minecraft
13:40 PilzAdam so, I think the plan for minetest_game is kinda a Minecraft alpha like game that has enough freedom for mods
13:40 xiong Contrast Unknown Horizons, which has some *very* interesting dimensions, many implemented, some just planned. Last time I upgraded, on startup it immediately crashed and took my whole system with it -- Linux!
13:40 RealBadAngel except for that minecraft have no real freedom for mods at all
13:40 PilzAdam ^
13:41 arsdragonfly PilzAdam : an alpha copy would be boring ,we also need some imaginative features
13:41 xiong Well, my vote is still for stability. I'm funny that way. Love new features; like them better when they work.
13:41 RealBadAngel all mods in mc are made AGAINST developers
13:41 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, not copy MC alpha, but a game _like_ it
13:42 xiong Ah, bedtime. Thanks for the hints, guess I'll give bronze a shot. But I'm going to throw away all my swords. :(
13:43 PilzAdam xiong, since the engine and mods/games are seperated, there can be added a lot content without losing stability
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13:58 sfan5 hello
14:00 VanessaE hey
14:01 VanessaE sfan5: possible problem with the //replace command or //fixlight - causing major server lag
14:01 VanessaE (probably //fixlight)
14:02 sfan5 VanessaE: fixlight always causes server lag
14:02 VanessaE oh
14:02 VanessaE ok
14:02 VanessaE this was after the command finished though
14:02 VanessaE the server locked up.
14:03 VanessaE must be some map loader/emerge bug or something, or technic maybe (item drop)
14:07 RealBadAngel VanessaE, have you worked on textures any more?
14:07 VanessaE no
14:07 VanessaE HDX normal/specular maps are stable for a while
14:07 PilzAdam sfan5, look at the fixlight of WE++
14:08 PilzAdam sfan5, it runs only 64 commands / step, that seems to cause no lag
14:08 RealBadAngel any bugs spotted?
14:08 sfan5 PilzAdam: there is no good fix for fixlight because many mods use minetest.register_on_dignode etc.
14:09 PilzAdam how many commands do you run per step?
14:09 PilzAdam (in fixlight)
14:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: the only "bugs" are those which we've already discussed
14:09 RealBadAngel i suggest fixlight where it is. since we are going to move to irrlicht lightin
14:09 RealBadAngel *suggest leaving
14:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: hardware/irrlicht lighting is still a ways off.  we need something that works in the meantime.
14:10 RealBadAngel its not so demonical
14:10 RealBadAngel in fact using irrlicht lights is way easier and better documented tham mt ones
14:10 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, its same as saying "stop using sqlite, we will have LevelDB soon"
14:11 RealBadAngel i dont know about databases
14:11 RealBadAngel its not my area of interest
14:12 RealBadAngel but about lights i can point just one thing
14:12 RealBadAngel game is built on irrlicht engine
14:13 RealBadAngel so we are not talkin bout importing something
14:13 RealBadAngel we are talking bout fuckin learn how to use our own engine :P
14:14 RealBadAngel so please DONT compare those two
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14:14 kahrl mods will want to know the light level of a certain node (say mob mods for spawning, or mesecons for daylight sensors)
14:15 kahrl not sure how that would be possible efficiently with only hardware lights
14:15 RealBadAngel easily
14:16 RealBadAngel if every node will be lighten by engine? we will know its light level
14:16 RealBadAngel just propably different equation or somethin like this
14:16 kahrl the server doesn't have the irrlicht scene
14:17 RealBadAngel doesnt have what?
14:17 RealBadAngel sorry but everythin you can see on the screen are irrlicht scenes
14:17 kahrl the server doesn't even link against the irrlicht library
14:17 RealBadAngel ah
14:18 RealBadAngel i got your point
14:18 VanessaE kahrl: seems to me you'd need to do a hard calculation at that point, each time a mod reads the light level from somewhere
14:18 RealBadAngel we can mix it then
14:18 VanessaE (plants_lib reads light levels, btw)
14:19 BrandonReese Is it possible to keep the current lighting system server side, but use hardware lighting when rendering the scene on the client side?
14:19 RealBadAngel propably yes
14:19 RealBadAngel server side for calculations
14:19 RealBadAngel client side for look
14:19 kahrl mixing the two would also add some (very weak) approximation of global illumination
14:19 VanessaE sure, it's possible - whether the client will match what the server thinks is present is a question though
14:20 RealBadAngel only thing we shall take real care of is sun position
14:20 kahrl with only hardware lights you'd probably have very hard shadow edges and dark entrances to caves
14:20 VanessaE couldn't the server just ask the client what the light is at a given spot?
14:21 PilzAdam -> lag
14:21 PilzAdam also, ask with client?
14:21 RealBadAngel server should pay no shit what player can see
14:21 PilzAdam *wich
14:21 RealBadAngel it shall control sun/moon pos
14:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: whichever client whose presence is triggering some server code that needs the light level (e.g. an ABM only runs if a player is nearby)
14:21 RealBadAngel and allow players to place another sources of light
14:22 Exio no please
14:22 Exio share the calculations
14:22 RealBadAngel but ilumation is up to client
14:22 Exio or then you will end with quake3 version sandbox
14:22 VanessaE ok, so then link the server against irrlicht
14:22 kahrl VanessaE: what if two or more players are nearby?
14:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, the player might not even see/calculate that region
14:22 VanessaE have it do the same thing the clients do
14:22 RealBadAngel they will share same time of day data
14:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, also, there might be clients that dont even have calculate it at all
14:22 RealBadAngel and light sources location
14:22 PilzAdam (fullbright option, bots)
14:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: true on both counts
14:23 RealBadAngel so if they will have the same display logic
14:23 RealBadAngel they will see the same
14:23 RealBadAngel period
14:23 VanessaE but there has *got* to be a way to let the server know of the computed light value for a given node.
14:23 RealBadAngel old system
14:23 VanessaE old system is slow though.
14:24 kahrl let's say you're on a pvp server with hostile mobs
14:24 VanessaE the old system is why moretrees takes up to 3 seconds to populate a mapblock
14:24 RealBadAngel so sun pos vs node coords
14:24 RealBadAngel and some weights
14:24 VanessaE er, a chunk*
14:24 kahrl it would be very easy to make a cheaty client that reports all nodes as full bright so that no mobs spawn
14:24 BrandonReese sun pos + other light sources
14:24 RealBadAngel kahrl, we are talkin now bout server logic
14:25 RealBadAngel not clients
14:25 kahrl RealBadAngel: I was talking about VanessaE's suggestion to move the calculation to clients
14:25 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, someone brought up the idea that clients can report the light
14:25 RealBadAngel no fucking way
14:25 Exio i suggestdoing it in the "both" sides
14:25 PilzAdam we just want to show that this idea is not good
14:25 RealBadAngel client side -> only gfx and eye candy
14:26 RealBadAngel server -> game mechanism and provide input for clients eyecandies
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14:26 Exio i still don't get it
14:26 kahrl VanessaE: if it takes 3 seconds there's something broken with the code
14:26 VanessaE kahrl: it's the lighting code, hmmmm said.  Those trees are bloody huge and they really strain the lighting code.
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14:27 VanessaE kahrl: as in, some 5000 nodes for one tree
14:27 kahrl even after the improvements hmmmm made?
14:27 BrandonReese the old system would need to stick around anyway to make it an option to turn hw lighting off.
14:27 VanessaE yup
14:27 kahrl 5000 isn't really much
14:27 RealBadAngel lol
14:28 VanessaE kahrl: one tree can take upwards of 350 ms to spawn
14:28 RealBadAngel irrlicht models (ONE OBJECT) are common with 30-40k polygons
14:28 PilzAdam there are only 4096 nodes per mapblock
14:28 VanessaE on my box that is
14:28 VanessaE slow boxes might take twice as long
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14:29 kahrl 350ms without the lighting?
14:29 VanessaE with
14:29 Exio meters
14:29 VanessaE Exio: milliseconds
14:29 RealBadAngel spawn means complex computations to generate it
14:29 Exio aww
14:29 RealBadAngel not light it up
14:29 kahrl ah so you spawn multiple trees at once?
14:30 VanessaE kahrl: yeah
14:30 VanessaE but one tree can take 350ms by itself
14:30 kahrl in on_generate?
14:30 VanessaE if it's bug enough
14:30 VanessaE yeah
14:30 VanessaE big*
14:30 kahrl maybe it shouldn't calculate the lighting during on_generate and let the post-generate lighting take care of it
14:31 kahrl doesn't make sense to calculate the light after spawning each tree if you could do it in one go
14:31 VanessaE I don't know how the current lighting system is doing it
14:32 VanessaE I'm just using this as an example why not to keep the existing software lighting code if there's any way at all to do it in hardware (which will surely be 10x faster yet)
14:33 VanessaE or at least, to do it with irrlicht instead of whatever we're doing now
14:34 VanessaE this is the conundrum - the server needs to know the light level of each node, but the clients are the ones that display it.
14:34 RealBadAngel offtpic: i can kill dragon now without even borin about teleport and seeds ;)
14:34 jin_xi yay, candies!
14:34 RealBadAngel 2614hp now ;)
14:34 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, I can beat the final boss without doing anything
14:35 jin_xi the winning move is not to play...
14:35 kahrl Is there any method in irrlicht that lets you ask for the light at a certain position? I don't think there is
14:35 VanessaE jin_xi: only*
14:35 VanessaE kahrl: no idea.
14:35 RealBadAngel kahrl, ofc it is
14:35 PilzAdam still, the server doesnt have Irrlich
14:35 PilzAdam +t
14:36 kahrl PilzAdam: the suggestion was to add it, which I think is a bad idea
14:36 VanessaE well then what do we do?
14:36 kahrl RealBadAngel: where?
14:36 RealBadAngel use the same equations just
14:36 PilzAdam can you even install/use irrlicht on a remote server without a XServer?
14:36 VanessaE kahrl: how would post-generation lighting work?  does the server run through that gradually?
14:36 kahrl I think you could use EDT_NULL
14:37 RealBadAngel every light aware code checks the light sources
14:37 RealBadAngel nearby or global
14:37 kahrl VanessaE: I don't know, I haven't looked at most of mapgen in a long time
14:37 VanessaE ok
14:37 VanessaE well I guess hmmmm would know
14:37 VanessaE a bit part of the issue is threading and locking though
14:37 VanessaE and I guess no one has a solution to that yet
14:38 kahrl well with the current way the whole server is locked during on_generate
14:38 VanessaE exactly.
14:39 kahrl with decorationdef/decorations it would be only during the lighting phase if I understand right
14:39 VanessaE yeah but that doesn't help those of us who are stuck with mg v6
14:39 kahrl true
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14:52 VanessaE bbl
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14:56 jojoa1997|Tablet http://dev.minetest.net/Mapgen_V7
14:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol not done yet
14:57 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam: Will diamond how's be added to default since all the other tools have diamond types
14:58 rubenwardy *hoes :P
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15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah they should be added
15:02 Zeg9 Hi!
15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet And also you could use the code from minitest
15:03 Zeg9 what about mese hoes?
15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Sure but diamond looks better
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15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet And they are already made
15:05 Zeg9 It's just about changing the color anyway, and copy-pasta of code
15:06 Zeg9 I think both should be added, since all tools can be made from these two crystals
15:06 Zeg9 btw what's this minetest version with trollfaces: http://wiki.minetest.com/images/9/9c/Putkiksia.png
15:06 PilzAdam Zeg9, NMPR
15:06 PilzAdam its mentioned in the dev wiki
15:08 Zeg9 I read about this once
15:08 PilzAdam its pretty awesome
15:08 PilzAdam you easily get like 500 FPS
15:09 PilzAdam and its not so bloated
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15:10 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, talk to VanessaE, she doesnt want them
15:10 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE: why no diamond picks
15:10 jojoa1997|Tablet Hoes
15:11 rubenwardy They are v unrealistic
15:11 rubenwardy not that the whole block idea is realistic
15:11 rubenwardy Diamond is brittle, a bit like glass
15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet So what
15:11 rubenwardy yeah
15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Do is obsidian
15:11 jojoa1997|Tablet So
15:11 rubenwardy ...
15:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Obsidian is more brittle
15:13 hmmmm [10:27 AM] <kahrl> even after the improvements hmmmm made?  <---- that was only to the mapgen, not Map::updateLighting()
15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet What is NMPR?
15:13 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, look at the dev wiki
15:13 hmmmm i intend to use Mapgen::calcLighting() on the blocks being emerged
15:13 rubenwardy An early version of MT
15:13 hmmmm when decorations are written to it
15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Oh
15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet I remember trying that
15:14 hmmmm sorry i haven't been spending much time on minetest lately, been doing jobby stuff
15:14 jojoa1997|Tablet http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/old/minetest-c55-binary-110211211322.zip
15:16 Calinou wb tablet user :P
15:16 Calinou oh he left
15:16 PilzAdam *crashed
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15:17 Jordach i've played minetest on a tablet before
15:17 Jordach by using team viewer and some tools, its possible
15:17 Calinou challenge: play minetest with the leap motion thingy
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15:22 Jordach even better, play it with kinect
15:23 PilzAdam the new xbox one sucks
15:23 Calinou consoles suck
15:23 Jordach yup
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15:23 PilzAdam I want to play and nothing else
15:23 Calinou mid end hardware at release
15:23 Calinou 5 years after = TOTALLY outdated
15:23 * PilzAdam wont buy it, since Battlefield 4 comes for 360 too
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15:24 Jordach PilzAdam, same here
15:24 * Zeg9 abandons bulding nmpr. Running under wine will be much faster than finding the required libraries...
15:24 Jordach at least EA done away with stupid online passes
15:25 ruskie yeah now xbox will have them built in
15:25 PilzAdam Zeg9, you basically one need the jthread that already is in your current minetest directory
15:25 PilzAdam *only
15:25 Zeg9 So the latest jthread wouldn't work?
15:25 PilzAdam dunno
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15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE: why no diamond how's?
15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet Hoes
15:26 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
15:26 Zeg9 Hello
15:26 thefamilygrog66 no diamond pimps?
15:26 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, you are repeating yourself
15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet I said this already?
15:27 PilzAdam <jojoa1997|Tablet> VanessaE: why no diamond picks
15:27 PilzAdam <jojoa1997|Tablet> Hoes
15:27 Jordach 3hrs 30mins remain...
15:27 jojoa1997|Tablet For what
15:30 Calinou till what?
15:30 Calinou next MLP episode?
15:30 Jordach Calinou, a simple mobs extension
15:30 PilzAdam \o/
15:31 Jordach and it's a extensive thing
15:31 Jordach it will require MAPGEN V7
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet So how long tillnyounrelease
15:32 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, put it like this: every relase will have one more addition
15:32 Jordach usually one, two or three at a time
15:32 jojoa1997|Tablet So what will be new?
15:33 Jordach btw, you wont be seeing any normal simple mobs monsters
15:34 Jordach i'll have a teaser video up later
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet Let me guess
15:34 * Calinou goes to play some TF2
15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet M
15:35 Calinou Jordach: did you buy any games on steam?
15:35 Jordach Calinou, NOPE.AVI
15:35 Calinou if you did then you can add me :P
15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet Mobs that come from the terrain
15:35 Calinou :/
15:35 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, well, they will in this
15:35 Jordach each biome will have specific items
15:35 Calinou well, if anyone wants to add me my ID is Calinou_
15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou I am using tablet
15:35 Jordach XxJordachxX
15:35 Jordach ^ steam + xbox 360
15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach does the new mapgen have biomes except rock
15:36 Calinou lol Xx
15:36 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: no
15:36 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, i'll release it when it's out
15:37 Jordach because put it like this: it will weigh around 70mb
15:37 Jordach when fully complete
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam could you make a MiniTest header that looks like the mine craft header
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach cool
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet will horses be added?
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet or something for us to ride
15:38 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, well, put it like this: this mod will be more content rich than any other mobs mode
15:38 Jordach -e
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet even mobf
15:38 Jordach also 300+ entitie registers
15:39 Jordach entity*
15:39 jojoa1997|Tablet ok i have one request then
15:39 Jordach -!- Server: Request denied.
15:39 jojoa1997|Tablet make a way to decide what mobs are in the world and not like mobf
15:39 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, all of them are needed
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15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet no i mean so you can say not spawn ...
15:40 Jordach spawn limits for each entity will be enforced
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet turkies if you dont want them
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean naturally
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet you can decide what mobs are there
15:40 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, you do realise i've been working on a prototype for a whi;e
15:40 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, no
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet *while
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
15:40 jojoa1997|Tablet um
15:41 Jordach entities have a 1x1 inv slot
15:41 jojoa1997|Tablet will each mob have a different file
15:41 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, yes
15:41 jojoa1997|Tablet ok then good
15:41 PilzAdam troll: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91341#p91341
15:41 Jordach oh and btw, think how MC wolves work
15:41 jojoa1997|Tablet what do you mean?
15:41 Jordach reported
15:41 Jordach how they follow you?
15:42 Jordach each has that ability
15:42 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91263#p91263
15:42 Jordach some harder than others
15:42 thexyz > You can't leave
15:42 Jordach they also require feeding
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet cool
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant wait
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet in how long
15:43 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, considering simple mobs is a piece of piss to code for
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet YES I IS!
15:43 Jordach depending on the amount of models i need
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet IT
15:43 Jordach for now they will be friendly and non friendly
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean how long till you release the first one today?
15:43 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, it might
15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet <Jordach> 3hrs 30mins remain...
15:44 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, i need to finish a prototype .x model
15:45 rubenwardy Yamm will be even easier
15:45 rubenwardy example: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c36919f9f696a34666c2#file-gistfile1-txt-L60
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15:46 rubenwardy I could even add the simplemobs code as a component
15:46 rubenwardy like a wrapper
15:46 thexyz rubenwardy: is it fast?
15:46 PilzAdam Jordach, http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw
15:46 rubenwardy and simplemobs mobs would work with it
15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet rubenwardy could you make a download of your compiler with all the required libraries
15:46 * Jordach closes tab
15:47 rubenwardy thexyz: it is component based. It is as fast as the code each component has
15:47 * jojoa1997|Tablet puts a kitten in Jordahcs spot
15:47 rubenwardy what is wrong Jordach?
15:47 thexyz that doesn't answer anything
15:47 Jordach rubenwardy, xbox one highlights
15:47 thefamilygrog66 PilzAdam's Minecraftization controversy!
15:47 * Jordach throws up
15:47 thefamilygrog66 :)
15:48 * jojoa1997|Tablet puts a kitten in Jordach's stuff
15:48 rubenwardy If I added simplemobs as a component, it would be as fast. It is too early to see how fast it is atm
15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach i will add the mobs from your pack that is similiar to minecrafts for minitest
15:49 PilzAdam Jordach, Im watching that video for the 3rd time and cant stop laughing
15:49 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, theyre not MC RELATED
15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet no pigs
15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet no cows
15:50 Jordach so will you QUIT IT.
15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet wait
15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet you aren't going to have pigs or wolves/dogs or fish?
15:51 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone seen forest gump
15:51 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, yes their will be
15:51 Jordach just not in that form
15:51 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah and i will edit it
15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet nothing i have added to mintest wasnt edited except factions mod
15:52 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, minitest is full of shit and a cease and desist is probably going to strike you soon
15:53 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, youre a dumbass
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15:53 Jordach i ALREADY SAID THIS ISNT MC RELATED
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach your a dumbass too :P
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet you dont listen do you
15:53 rubenwardy do you?
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet you just here minitest
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i do
15:54 rubenwardy <Jordach> jojoa1997|Tablet, theyre not MC RELATED
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15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet going
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet going to next class
15:54 rubenwardy Thank fuck
15:54 Jordach dumbass doesnt even listen
15:54 rubenwardy Bitch please!
15:55 Jordach anyways, just learned on how to make keyframe anims in minetest
15:57 PilzAdam Note: Download links of jojoa's version of Minitest removed until he fixes the license mess he produced.
15:58 rubenwardy lol
15:58 PilzAdam I just looked at it and noticed that he shares simply everything as "Copyright PilzAdam; WTFPL"
16:00 Jordach see? hes a dumbass
16:00 Jordach im still waiting for a C&D letter from mojang
16:06 PilzAdam Calinou, whats the license of the rendered grass block in the minetest.com wiki?
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16:23 Jordach BRB BACON BAGELS!
16:24 Jordach actually nope
16:25 Jordach :(
16:27 Jordach also: why are the legs in the default player model bent backwards at the end of the breathing anim
16:27 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe we should have a running animation
16:27 Jordach fuck off
16:27 Jordach this isnt minecrap, okay?
16:28 Jordach just play the walking anim faster
16:28 Jordach DUH
16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft doesnt have a running animation
16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet that is what minecraft does
16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet they make it faster
16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet wait we need running first
16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm
16:29 * Jordach renders small keyframining anim
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16:48 Jordach youtube is processing audio
16:48 Jordach video*
16:49 OldCoder News: Shutting down my worlds for migration to a new hard disk
16:49 Jordach ooh
16:51 Jordach hey Taoki
16:51 Jordach i made my first keyframe animation
16:53 Calinou PilzAdam: same license as texture
16:53 Calinou feel free to use it :)
16:54 Jordach Calinou, youtube is processing your video stuck at 95%
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16:58 Calinou heh
16:58 Calinou that's youtube
16:58 Calinou flash uploading needs to die
16:59 Jordach my 27 min video took 20 seconds
17:00 Calinou free insult \o/ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91353#p91353
17:00 * Calinou doesn't have 150 games on steam and doesn't use windows 7
17:00 Calinou and I don't have a 7970/680 too
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17:03 Jordach YouTube, don't make me use vimeo
17:04 Calinou how about dailymotion
17:04 Calinou MADE IN FRANCE!!!!
17:04 Jordach MOTHER FUCKER
17:04 Jordach IT FINISHED PROCESSING AS I CLOSED THE TAB
17:05 Calinou it finishes just like MLP episodes: when you close the tab
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17:18 Jordach mastered keyframes
17:19 Calinou masturbed keyframes
17:19 Calinou </joke level="graphitemaster">
17:19 thexyz wait, you can have params in closing tag?
17:21 Calinou HTML 6
17:21 Calinou © 2015 Calinou
17:22 rubenwardy next you will be able to make games in html, no js
17:23 Exio html 7 will include built-in java support
17:24 thexyz javascript is already good enough
17:24 thexyz now they should do something about css
17:24 thexyz it sucks
17:24 rubenwardy http://html6spec.com/
17:26 thexyz just make a language which lets us position elements instead of fucking with float-s and whatnot
17:27 thexyz is that so hard?
17:27 sfan5 apparently it is
17:27 thexyz =(
17:28 Jordach thexyz, invent your own html like markup
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17:29 thexyz Jordach: which won't be supported by anything
17:30 Jordach people still use gopher
17:30 thexyz same goes for <video> and <audio> support
17:30 thexyz well, for <video> i can just use h.264 and forget about linux/mac firefox users
17:31 thexyz no one uses opera either
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17:32 Jordach This is taking longer than expected. Your video has been queued and will be processed as soon as possible.
17:32 Jordach FFS
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17:32 * Jordach 's head explodes
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17:34 thexyz in the end, flash just works
17:34 Exio bad thing of flash: its performance sucks
17:35 drizz flash doesn't really just work...
17:35 thexyz it's fine if i only need to play video or audio
17:35 drizz it's really, really, really bad at playing video
17:35 thexyz okay, then it's fine for audio
17:35 drizz with 1 instance, perhaps :P
17:36 drizz music websites tend to throw a list of like 15 tracks in your face, each whith their own flash player :x
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17:37 Jordach hey dante123
17:37 Jordach in other news: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91359#p91359
17:38 Calinou thexyz: h.264 is bad and you should feel bad
17:38 Calinou webm ftw
17:38 dante123 howdy
17:38 thexyz Calinou: it's the best video codec ever created
17:39 Calinou why?
17:39 Calinou its quality is meh, and it uses mp3 which is terrible
17:39 rubenwardy Great. My platform game runs at 5fps
17:39 thexyz > video codec
17:39 thexyz > mp3
17:39 Calinou mp4 = h.264 + mp3
17:39 Calinou you don't use h.264 + vorbis usually
17:39 Jordach Great. My YouTube video recorded at 24fps
17:39 thexyz mp4 is a container
17:39 thexyz for container .mkv is the best one
17:39 Calinou and by h.264 you probably mean mp4 or o
17:39 Calinou or mkv
17:40 thexyz and by h264 i meant video codec
17:40 * Jordach prefers streaming in binary
17:40 Calinou h.264 is worse than vp8
17:40 Kray Calinou: nope
17:40 Calinou Jordach: 24 fps ftl, 30fps is much better
17:40 thexyz it's better
17:40 Jordach Calinou, couldnt tell with bandicam
17:40 thexyz even vp9 is worse than h264
17:40 Calinou [citation needed]
17:40 rubenwardy My platform game uses DOM
17:40 rubenwardy probably why
17:40 Jordach rubenwardy, thats why its a piece of shit
17:40 Jordach and it always will be
17:40 Calinou what about quality, too
17:41 rubenwardy switching to canvas mode...
17:41 Calinou (not just bitrate)
17:41 thexyz oh, it's worse than h265, not h264
17:41 rubenwardy It runs at 20-30fps, until you the map gets too big
17:41 thexyz > Bultje said that H.265 image quality outperforms VP9 by about 1 percent overall, though there's a lot of variability from one video to the next, based on Google's tests so far.
17:42 Calinou 1% :applause:
17:42 Jordach how about 4k?
17:42 Jordach \o/
17:42 Calinou 4k is unusable right now because of connection speeds
17:43 Calinou I wouldn't even try uplodaing a 1440p video already
17:43 Jordach Calinou, fibre optic
17:43 Calinou nor do people have 1440p screens
17:43 Calinou not everyone has that
17:43 Calinou 27% of french people and I don't
17:43 Exio Jordach: where do you live?
17:43 Calinou UK
17:43 Jordach United Kingdom
17:43 Exio kk
17:43 Calinou ninja'd
17:43 * Jordach and Calinou should have a Monty Python joke round
17:44 thexyz Calinou: yes, it was just released and they already state it sucks
17:44 thexyz Calinou: anyway, https://gist.github.com/Hupotronic/4645784
17:45 thexyz i don't think i'll convince you though
17:45 thexyz feel free to continue to use vp8 or whatever
17:46 Calinou k then
17:46 * Calinou lives in europe anyway
17:46 Kray the other problem with vp8 and vp9 is that their development is closed
17:46 Kray Google just decides that it's like this, and then spits it out
17:46 Kray whereas h.26x are developed openly
17:47 Calinou they are?
17:47 Kray in cooperation with different companies and organizations
17:47 Kray yes
17:47 Calinou they're still patented
17:47 Calinou yeah, MPEG LA is so awesome right
17:47 Kray wat
17:47 Calinou </sarcasm>
17:48 Kray if you are operating commercially, the licensing fees are irrelevant
17:49 Kray and for non-commercial stuff you don't need to pay
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17:51 rubenwardy I am using http://craftyjs.com/ , Jordach
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17:54 rubenwardy_ DOM is not that bas
17:54 rubenwardy_ d
17:56 rubenwardy_ this is cool: http://morrisgames.info/
17:56 PilzAdam MiniTest update! Now 100% copyrighted content from Mojang!
17:56 PilzAdam +less
17:58 Exio (not)
18:01 Zeg9 PilzAdam: did you rewrite it entirely?
18:02 PilzAdam kinda
18:02 PilzAdam I started from the beginning (wich is a copy of minetest_game)
18:05 PilzAdam it doesnt use the copy of MC's TP from Jordach anymore
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18:17 Jordach VanessaE, i know youre here
18:17 Jordach theres no hiding from Jordach
18:20 VanessaE I am, just busy reading the scrollback
18:21 Jordach i consider myself to see through other people's viewpoints
18:23 VanessaE ok
18:24 Jordach VanessaE, i put a video up of keyframes in blender
18:24 VanessaE I sw it
18:25 VanessaE saw*
18:25 * Zeg9 gotta go, cya
18:25 Jordach see VanessaE. im mastering blender FAST.
18:27 VanessaE cool
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18:35 PilzAdam has somebody a good flint and flint_and_steel texture?
18:35 PilzAdam (16x16)
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18:37 VanessaE need me to draw one?
18:38 PilzAdam would be awesome if you do so!
18:38 PilzAdam (for MiniTest)
18:38 VanessaE lemme see what I can come up with
18:47 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/flint_and_steel.png
18:47 VanessaE how's that?
18:48 PilzAdam I also need a flint texture
18:48 VanessaE a mineal?
18:48 VanessaE mineral*
18:48 VanessaE can you point me to an example of how it'll be used?
18:49 PilzAdam exactly like in mincraft
18:49 VanessaE looking it up/
18:49 VanessaE .
18:49 PilzAdam it drops randomly from gravel and is used to make flint and steel
18:49 VanessaE ah, gotchya
18:55 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/flint.png
18:55 VanessaE license is wtfpl as usual
18:56 VanessaE the flint-and-steel one needs a quick tweak though
18:59 VanessaE there, try those two links.
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19:11 StrayBytes After thinking the situation over for some time, I feel as if the proper thing for me to do as the WiFI operator is to apologize for the damage and technical issues as a result of the attack. However, as I am NOT the originator, I do NOT take any moral obligation/responsibility for this attack. Again, I apologize to the community of Minetest for not quickly acting on the problem or working with the
19:11 StrayBytes community in  a fully constructive manner to resolve the issue. My annoyance in #minetest after being notified was unjust and unnecessary. Thank you. Do not deblacklist me for the time being.
19:11 StrayBytes was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected.
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19:12 VanessaE StrayBytes: pastebin or forum link next time please.
19:12 Calinou wb titan
19:12 StrayBytes I only had one line of text.
19:12 StrayBytes My apologies.
19:12 VanessaE one really LONG line
19:12 VanessaE no human could have typed it as fast as it came in :)
19:13 * Calinou reads IRC logs
19:13 StrayBytes What link to I grab? The link and anchor linked from the "Today 14:11:32" on the forum topic, right over the post?
19:13 VanessaE yeah
19:13 VanessaE that's the one I use for such things
19:13 StrayBytes OK. Again, I apologize for not handling the situation in a constructive manner.
19:13 StrayBytes Please do not deblacklist me, I do not deserve it for my ignorance and inaction.
19:13 VanessaE Too late ;-)   anyway no worries, we know it wasn't directly your fault.
19:14 VanessaE in other words, shit happens.
19:14 Calinou no need to make three cheeses of that ddos thingy
19:14 VanessaE you fixed the problem already, there's no need to beat yourself up over it
19:14 StrayBytes OK. Thank you for your understanding.
19:14 Calinou it's over
19:14 Calinou (expression courtesy of Calinou ._.)
19:14 StrayBytes Thanks!
19:14 VanessaE hm, severe thunderstorm moving into my area.
19:14 StrayBytes Same here. Capital Region, NY.
19:15 VanessaE well, near me anyway.
19:15 Calinou must be that tornado thingy :P
19:15 StrayBytes I'm basically rained out of swim practice :/
19:15 Calinou fire up your phenom x6, it'll be so hot it will repel the tornado
19:15 StrayBytes Even though it's indoors and the point is to get wet.
19:15 VanessaE heh
19:15 * Calinou lives in france anyway
19:15 Calinou no software patents, no tornadoes
19:15 Calinou but lag when playing on US servers
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19:16 StrayBytes FINA is french-based?
19:17 Calinou what's FINA
19:17 Jordach Calinou, standing down from fights is french
19:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, nice, thanks
19:17 StrayBytes Just found full name, it's actually french. International french league.
19:17 PilzAdam scaled them down a bit
19:17 VanessaE you're quite welcome.
19:17 * Jordach lasughs
19:17 StrayBytes Fédération Internationale de Natation
19:17 Jordach laughs*
19:18 StrayBytes Copypasta from Wikipedia.
19:18 Calinou probably french then
19:18 Jordach StrayBytes, my wifi router is free to use
19:18 StrayBytes Yeah, I just found it.
19:18 Jordach however, i spy on you while youre using it
19:21 StrayBytes No need, I'm not within range.
19:22 Calinou my wifi router is french
19:22 Calinou if you send a packet with it, it'll add "NET_INFO_BAGUETTE" to it
19:22 StrayBytes Lol.
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19:26 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: lobotomy remove
19:26 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
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19:27 Calinou ".tm" dat rare extesion
19:27 Calinou extension*
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19:28 ShadowBot test__: minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
19:30 ShadowNinja I am restarting ShadowBot.
19:30 ShadowBot joined #minetest
19:31 VanessaE ShadowBot: crash OS
19:31 VanessaE ;)
19:31 VanessaE ShadowNinja: you should add something to SB that makes it say something like "you're not my REAL operator!  piss off!" or some such :-)
19:32 VanessaE (think of those silly cay pictures, "you're not my real mom!")
19:32 ShadowNinja VanessaE: INFO 2013-05-22T11:30:44 Not replying to crash, not a command.
19:32 VanessaE heh
19:32 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: alias add stfu "lobotomy add"
19:33 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
19:33 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu
19:33 ShadowBot sfan5: The operation succeeded.
19:33 sfan5 ShadowBot: lobotomy remove
19:33 VanessaE haha
19:33 sfan5 umm
19:33 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I don't know how to undo that
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19:33 ShadowNinja sfan5: You made it ignore you.
19:33 sfan5 :(
19:33 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: lobotomy remove
19:33 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
19:34 ShadowNinja Only owners can bypass lobotomies.
19:34 VanessaE cue complaints from someone about us "abusing" the bot
19:34 ShadowNinja sfan5: You could use a PM.
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19:34 Calinou maybe, only allow using bot by PM
19:34 BrandonReese !up mt.bremaweb.com:31000
19:34 ShadowBot BrandonReese: mt.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (0.377ms)
19:34 Calinou to reduce abuse a bit
19:35 ]DMackey[ joined #minetest
19:35 Calinou this way people would be less tempted
19:35 sfan5 Where is MinetestBot
19:35 Calinou on top of that people can't see which commands you input
19:35 Calinou not on this network, sfan5
19:35 ShadowNinja Calinou: I will search the conf. I might be able to do that.
19:35 MinetestBot joined #minetest
19:35 sfan5 Calinou: yeah, I guess so
19:35 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot
19:35 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: stfu
19:35 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
19:36 * VanessaE watches heavy storms flare up all around her on the radar (yet the sounds outside suggest barely anything of significance)
19:36 StrayBytes I am watching the opposite.
19:36 Calinou on the radar?
19:36 StrayBytes Storm everywhere, radar clear.
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19:36 VanessaE Calinou: sure, NOAA weather radar, what else?
19:36 StrayBytes (I'm assuming doppler radar provided by local news agencise)
19:36 Calinou I don't have anything like that
19:37 * Calinou instead googles "how's the weather near me"
19:37 StrayBytes Not your own radar. Unless you enjoy boating.
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19:37 VanessaE Calinou: I'm sure your country has such a thing
19:37 StrayBytes And you can get radar images from weather sites.
19:37 Calinou ah
19:37 StrayBytes https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CCoQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.accuweather.com%2Fen%2Ffr%2Fnational%2Fweather-radar&amp;ei=bR6dUcerGJLV0gHOw4CADA&amp;usg=AFQjCNHed7Lc59dxXWvWnaLkxyH_JXtLuA&amp;bvm=bv.46751780,d.aGc
19:37 StrayBytes Actually correct one: http://www.accuweather.com/en/fr/national/weather-radar
19:37 StrayBytes Sorry about that.
19:38 VanessaE there you go, that's actually a nicer one than I'm using here
19:38 VanessaE http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=MRX&amp;product=N0R&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
19:38 VanessaE (I'm in that next region west Asheville)
19:40 sokomine just read in the forum "A new feature in the engine allows the power- and breakrail to connect to the normal rails" - does that mean that diffrent nodes can now connect through drawtype railike? that would be great for the homedecor shingles
19:40 sokomine ah, and btw: hi :-)
19:41 sokomine vanessa: what's up with your weather? ours isn't very nice at the moment either (ought to be much warmer)
19:41 Jordach at least we don't get tornadoes
19:41 VanessaE sokomine: oh, just normal spring storms
19:41 Jordach <- proud brit
19:41 Calinou <- proud baguette
19:42 StrayBytes <- proud american of a mix of almost every blood out there.
19:42 VanessaE sokomine: re rails:  yes, except it requires a tweak to the node def to enable an extra flag.  Not sure I want to do that, rather I want to eventually transition over to some kind of custom draw type for roof shingles.
19:42 Calinou no, you're a proud 660 ti owner
19:42 Calinou :> <: :>
19:42 sokomine jordach: i was a bit amazed at how much of them seem to be around in the us while here one doesn't hear about them. i read somewhere that they happen equally likely here...but as the land area is much smaller fewer are encounterd
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19:42 StrayBytes Sold used. Not much need for it.
19:42 Calinou ah
19:43 Calinou did you get your titan? :P
19:43 StrayBytes No. I spend the money on a new erg instead.
19:43 sokomine vanessa: hm, a custom drawtype would be nice as well
19:43 sokomine maybe one that can cover edges all by itshelf
19:43 StrayBytes (erg=indoor rowing machine=medieval torture device)
19:43 Calinou erg?
19:43 Calinou ah
19:43 Calinou heh
19:43 StrayBytes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_rower
19:44 VanessaE tornadoes happen in the US because of our two mountain ranges.  They funnel cold air from canada down to meet warm moist air from the gulf of mexico, and warm dry air from our southwest.  The result is quite volatile in the spring, especially for the states of kansas, oklahoma, and missouri
19:44 StrayBytes Even the appearance is menacing. I spent 8 hours on one at a town event for a publicity stunt to get more funding.
19:45 VanessaE over here in north carolina, we have a much less strong combination of airmasses because of the lack of a large region of warm, dry air as in the midwest
19:45 Calinou read: kickstarter IRL
19:45 StrayBytes To me?
19:45 StrayBytes If you've never tried one, don't.
19:46 StrayBytes It's torture and an addictive activity at the same time. The numbers are TOO motivating.
19:46 VanessaE sokomine: so in the midwest, they get huge, hundreds-of-kilometers-long storm systems along the sharpest of those airmass boundaries (what we call a "dry line")
19:46 sokomine we do have the gulf stream that usually leads to much more...equalized...and warmer weather than what we'd otherwise get. extreme weather conditions are rare
19:46 sokomine mostly it's flooding in spring when rivers go over the sides
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19:50 sokomine hi taoki
19:51 VanessaE hey Taoki
19:53 Calinou hi Taoki
19:53 Jordach hey Taoki
19:54 Taoki o.O
19:54 Jordach Taoki, finished my model
19:54 * Taoki suddenly highlighted by a dozen people
19:54 Jordach Taoki, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91359#p91359
19:55 Jordach if you now type pilzadam into google
19:55 Jordach you get pilzadam carts as a suggestion
19:55 Jordach people like your mod PilzAdam
19:55 PilzAdam \o/
19:55 PilzAdam btw: huuuuge MiniTest update
19:57 Jordach you know, with proper code :>
19:57 Jordach yes, i just slammed jojoa
19:57 Jordach with an iron fist
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19:57 Calinou https://startpage.com/do/search?query=more+blocks
19:57 kaeza greetings
19:57 Calinou fuck.
19:57 Jordach hey kaeza
19:58 Calinou hi kaeza
19:58 Calinou https://startpage.com/do/search?query=moreblocks
19:58 Calinou oOooOOoO this works
19:58 Jordach LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
19:58 Jordach startpage
19:58 Calinou ftw
19:58 Calinou google without downsides
19:58 Jordach dont you use about:newtab or chrome:newtab
19:58 Calinou chrome:newtab
19:58 Calinou but I'm not logged in to chromium
19:59 sfan5 !c 15 / 2
19:59 MinetestBot 7.5
19:59 kaeza Calinou, third result on startpage
19:59 kaeza notbad.jpg
20:00 Jordach ([off] disables loggingbot_ from recording this.)
20:00 kaeza you just spoiled that :(
20:01 Jordach useful for plans that you dont want ruineed
20:01 Jordach ruined*
20:01 PilzAdam :-(
20:02 Jordach i could in theory talk shit about someone and no one will know...except for personal logs
20:02 Jordach props to thexyz for teaching me [off]
20:02 VanessaE and now he needs to disable it
20:03 Jordach VanessaE, thats a feature
20:03 kaeza ah while we're at it, hi Taoki
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20:03 Jordach heye Evergreen
20:03 Jordach -e
20:03 * kaeza is late to the party
20:03 Evergreen Hi Jordach
20:03 Taoki hi
20:03 PilzAdam Jordach, still, there are 87 other people that log the channel
20:03 Jordach Taoki, seen my model?
20:04 Evergreen How are the Miku Miku animations coming?
20:04 Taoki not now
20:04 Jordach Evergreen, pulling yt link
20:04 Calinou no: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=more+ores
20:04 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiyPrv3-SRI&amp;feature=youtu.be
20:04 Calinou yey!: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=moreores
20:04 Calinou :-)
20:04 Jordach dammit Calinou
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20:04 Taoki ok, looks nice :)
20:04 Evergreen I saw it.  :P  It's pretty good
20:04 Calinou hi Evergreen
20:04 Jordach its a possible player model
20:04 Evergreen Hi
20:04 Evergreen Cool
20:05 Jordach anyways ill be here but in bed
20:05 Jordach (idling
20:05 Jordach )*
20:05 jojoa1997 could someone update the compiling for windows in README.txt in minetest-master
20:05 Calinou minetest Jordach edition: play as gardevoir
20:05 Calinou we need minetest Taoki edition now, play as pony
20:05 Evergreen Why not?  x)
20:05 Calinou jojoa1997, update?
20:06 Taoki Calinou: Oh... there will be a whole MLP game mode for MineTest :) But later when I have the time
20:06 Calinou compiling for windows? incompatible words you've got there :P
20:06 kaeza minetest Calinou edition: moar HATS!
20:06 jojoa1997 Compiling on Windows:
20:06 jojoa1997 ---------------------
20:06 jojoa1997 - This section is outdated. In addition to what is described here:
20:06 jojoa1997 - In addition to minetest, you need to download minetest_game.
20:06 jojoa1997 - If you wish to have sound support, you need libogg, libvorbis and libopenal
20:06 jojoa1997 was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
20:06 kaeza lol
20:06 jojoa1997 joined #minetest
20:06 kaeza thanks ShadowBot
20:06 Calinou better get virtualbox, install xubuntu, compile, ???, PROFIT
20:06 Calinou that's what I did before switching to linux
20:06 jojoa1997 Compiling on Windows:
20:06 jojoa1997 ---------------------
20:06 jojoa1997 - This section is outdated. In addition to what is described here:
20:06 jojoa1997 - In addition to minetest, you need to download minetest_game.
20:06 jojoa1997 - If you wish to have sound support, you need libogg, libvorbis and libopenal
20:06 jojoa1997 was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
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20:06 kaeza ...
20:06 Evergreen ...
20:07 jojoa1997 i dont get it i waited 5 seconds
20:07 * Calinou switches to flamer + shotgun
20:07 * Calinou prepares fireball
20:07 VanessaE jojoa1997: don't pasteflood, period.
20:07 kaeza jojoa1997, PIYF
20:07 kaeza PBIYF*
20:07 jojoa1997 k
20:07 Calinou pretty bunnies if you find
20:07 VanessaE kaeza: now now.
20:08 jojoa1997 VanessaE why no diamond hoes
20:08 Calinou because
20:08 kaeza random
20:08 VanessaE jojoa1997: because we have enough tools already?
20:08 Calinou however, are there bronze hoes? they should be fine
20:08 Calinou while diamond hoes don't make sense, bronze hoes do
20:08 VanessaE Calinou: I believe so; wood, stone, bronze, and steel
20:09 Calinou k
20:09 jojoa1997 but
20:09 kaeza mese hoes?
20:09 Calinou butts
20:09 jojoa1997 We have diamond tools with everything else
20:09 VanessaE why does every tool have to be available in every material!?
20:09 jojoa1997 also they look nice
20:09 jojoa1997 becuase it makes sense
20:09 Evergreen ... way to ruin the conversation Calinou
20:10 kaeza VanessaE, <celeron55> because random
20:10 Calinou Evergreen, this statement is tralse.
20:10 VanessaE I mean, shit, we have picks made of dirt for crying out loud
20:10 Calinou q66 approves :3
20:10 ShadowNinja My mods won't load :-( I have then symlinked in /home/minetest/server/mods. What have I done wrong? The game runs.
20:10 Evergreen I agree with jojoa
20:10 Calinou ShadowNinja, lastest git?
20:10 jojoa1997 well has anyone heard of continuity and everyone=Vanessae :P
20:10 ShadowNinja Calinou: Yes.
20:10 VanessaE ShadowNinja: enable them in the "configure" dialog?
20:10 Calinou run in place?
20:11 Calinou also, enable them in configure dialog
20:11 Calinou VanessaE, how do you do that on a server, by the way? O_o
20:11 ShadowNinja VanessaE: No. Is there a cli way to do that?
20:11 VanessaE jojoa1997: consistency is fine as long as you don't take it to the logical extreme
20:11 jojoa1997 well i think diamond hoes would be better than bronze
20:11 * Calinou takes one sock from jojoa1997
20:11 VanessaE Calinou: by default, mods are enabled on a server, at least if you're running minetestserver separately.
20:11 kaeza Calinou, ShadowNinja, load_mod_modname = true in mapmeta.txt
20:11 Calinou jojoa1997 removes his other sock because of consistency :3
20:11 kaeza (or smth like that)
20:12 ShadowNinja some %s/false/true vim magic.
20:12 * Calinou ate 1,1 million candies recently, now ate 7,649,161 candies, 1290 HP
20:12 Calinou I annoyed the candy merchant too :3
20:12 * kaeza are 20098483 candies
20:13 StrayBytes I've eaten 58118051
20:13 Calinou O_o
20:13 Calinou hax
20:13 Calinou are you running it 24/7 or what :P
20:13 kaeza 1851 HP
20:13 Calinou well, nice
20:13 StrayBytes 2778 HP. And I keep it running.
20:13 Calinou I don't
20:13 Calinou not wasting power for a game :x
20:14 Evergreen I made a bash script that auto compiles minetest from github, and I'm going to make it so you can specify a directory.
20:14 Evergreen Anyone want me to release it when I'm done?  :P
20:15 Calinou old news
20:15 ShadowNinja Evergreen: There are already a few of those.
20:15 Calinou I did that 3 months ago, Evergreen
20:15 Calinou "general discussion" sticky
20:15 Calinou also installs deps for you
20:15 Evergreen Alright, fine.   Did you release it though Calinou?
20:15 ShadowNinja ^ for debian based distrobutions with apt.
20:15 Evergreen nvm
20:16 Calinou of course
20:16 VanessaE I use one I wrote for the purpose a while back
20:16 Calinou apt is the most used format by far
20:16 Calinou 70% of people probably
20:16 Calinou at least :P
20:16 Calinou and I find it fine, so I stick with it
20:16 proller hp from candies?
20:17 Calinou you get HP when eating candies
20:17 Evergreen Except the apt repositories are really outdated for some things in ubuntu.
20:17 Calinou they are fairly up to date
20:17 Calinou few distros do better, or they harm stability a lot when doing so
20:17 * Calinou looks at harsh linux
20:17 Evergreen Not for minetest they aren't
20:17 Calinou who cares?
20:17 Calinou packages do not give a fuff for gaming on linux
20:17 jojoa1997 Evergreen not windows right?
20:18 Calinou it's 2013 and xonotic is not packaged for debian and ubuntu
20:18 Calinou game released in december 2010
20:18 Calinou s/packages/packagers
20:18 Evergreen No, I run ubuntu
20:18 Calinou xubuntu 13.04 here 8)
20:18 * ShadowNinja has it in his oficial repos
20:19 Evergreen I useUbuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 with Unity desktop manager.
20:19 Calinou a desktop manager is what lets you log in graphically
20:19 Calinou lightdm by default on buntus
20:19 Calinou desktop environment, DE is the desktop, and window manager, WM, manages windows and decorates them
20:19 Calinou also, you can use PPAs :P
20:19 Calinou there's no SDL 2 in ubuntu repos, I use a PPA and it works fine
20:19 kaeza Evergreen, Unity??
20:19 kaeza kill that thing with fire
20:19 kaeza Ubuntu 12.04 + Xfce4 here
20:20 Evergreen Yes, Unity.
20:20 Calinou some people like unity
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20:21 Calinou I don't, but if unity will be the only DE available when mir is ready for use (read: it has nvidia driver), I would use it
20:22 Evergreen Well, I'm bored.   I'll be inactive.
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20:25 ShadowNinja lxdm+xfce4 on Arch Linux here.
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20:28 Evergreen My friend has Kubuntu with the kde desktop manager.  Idk what version though.
20:29 PilzAdam KDE FTW!
20:29 thexyz xfce4 as well
20:29 thexyz the only problem is tearing
20:29 Calinou no tearing here
20:30 Calinou (maybe a bit when moving windows but I don't care)
20:30 Calinou enable "sync to vblank" if you don't care about latency in your nvidia driver settings :P
20:30 Calinou sadly vsync implies some latency, but fixes tearing
20:30 Calinou it can also look more fluid
20:30 Evergreen I just looked, and I saw you had copyright problems with minitest Adam.
20:31 Calinou no, jojoa1997 just said everything was copyright PilzAdam
20:31 Calinou that's usual jojoa1997
20:31 Evergreen I wish people wouldn't rip minecraft TPs without getting support from the authors.
20:31 Evergreen That's why I love TestBDcraft
20:31 * Calinou makes inception look to Evergreen
20:32 Evergreen It's cool that a texture pack is actually being supported by the author.   I always wanted the oCd texture pack to be converted, and I hope to get permission from the author.
20:32 thexyz Calinou: that didn't work for me
20:33 thexyz `dcompmgr --gl` solved the issue though
20:33 * Evergreen is inactive
20:33 thexyz no tearing at all now
20:35 PilzAdam Evergreen, no, I dont have any problems
20:35 Calinou Evergreen, AMD approves
20:35 Calinou radeon driver, supported by AMD but slow
20:35 PilzAdam I wanted to rewrite it anyways
20:35 Calinou catalyst driver, supported by AMD but buggy and slow
20:35 Calinou :> <: :> <: :>
20:35 PilzAdam jojoa1997 has problems, though
20:36 jojoa1997 PilzAdam what?
20:36 PilzAdam the copyright thing with MiniTest
20:36 jojoa1997 oh yeah
20:36 PilzAdam or proper author mentioning or whatever you want to call it
20:37 jojoa1997 ok what file
20:38 jojoa1997 what file is the problem?
20:38 PilzAdam the README.txt says, that ever mod that contains no readme is by me, and under WTFPL
20:38 PilzAdam that is clearly not the case in your version
20:38 jojoa1997 that is what you had
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20:38 jojoa1997 is this better
20:38 jojoa1997 Mods without a README.txt are from PilzAdam or jojoa1997 and under the WTFPL (all parts).
20:38 PilzAdam no
20:38 PilzAdam because thats not clear enough
20:39 jojoa1997 well you had they were all WTFPL
20:39 PilzAdam just add a readme to all the mods that are by me
20:39 jojoa1997 hay i didnt make it you did
20:39 jojoa1997 ok i will add a thing underneath
20:40 Evergreen Well, got to go.  By everyone.
20:41 jojoa1997 there
20:41 jojoa1997 your 3 mods are added
20:41 jojoa1997 and if you looked in the changelog.txt you would see that i document what pople added to the mod
20:42 Calinou night
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20:43 PilzAdam jojoa1997, I guess it would be best if every mod contains a README
20:43 PilzAdam (like in my current version of MiniTest at github)
20:43 jojoa1997 not really
20:44 PilzAdam (like in my current version of MiniTest at github)
20:44 PilzAdam ooops
20:44 PilzAdam yes really
20:44 jojoa1997 because i change about half of all the mods i add so having one file to show who did what works better
20:44 jojoa1997 PilzAdam you repeated yourself
20:44 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> ooops
20:45 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> because i change about half of all the mods i add so having one file to show who did what works better
20:45 jojoa1997 yeah so that is why i keep one file
20:45 RealBadAngel http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#13 and http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#14
20:45 jojoa1997 and i added your mods in a list so it is fine
20:45 RealBadAngel im playin with normal maps further
20:45 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, why do I need to enable JS to view the images?
20:46 thexyz why would you disable it?
20:46 RealBadAngel ask imgur.com stuff not me ;)
20:46 PilzAdam thexyz, security
20:46 RealBadAngel i find that site useful
20:47 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, security? do not browse as root, thats all the policy ;)
20:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: noscript, whitelist.
20:47 VanessaE problem solved.
20:47 PilzAdam I use noscript
20:48 VanessaE so whitelist just enough of imgur to let the images through
20:48 PilzAdam !deop VanessaE
20:48 PilzAdam >:-)
20:48 VanessaE !deop PilzAdam
20:48 VanessaE :P
20:48 VanessaE (not that you had it)
20:49 RealBadAngel op him 1st ;)
20:49 thexyz how does disabling javascript help your security?
20:49 PilzAdam it hinders websites from executing possibly harmful code
20:50 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i found out that when creating map, end effect can be much nicer when you choose a color layer to bump
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20:50 VanessaE RealBadAngel: *nod* or with multiple image layers
20:51 RealBadAngel also for sharp edges like on diamon block or ice: small sampling size like 3x3, height>30 and just one color layer
20:52 thexyz PilzAdam: harmful code?
20:52 whirm1 noscript + tomoyo here :D
20:52 thexyz well, whatever
20:54 RealBadAngel so, PilzAdam, have you managed to see the pictures? :)
20:54 PilzAdam sure
20:54 RealBadAngel any comments?
20:54 jojoa1997 why did my favorites disapear
20:54 jojoa1997 in minetest
20:54 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, its a kind of magic ;)
20:54 jojoa1997 wait nvm
20:55 RealBadAngel hehe
20:55 jojoa1997 i deleted the server list
20:55 RealBadAngel told ya
20:55 jojoa1997 also why does it take me forever to get on sfan5's server when it is meant to be on?
20:56 sfan5 jojoa1997: dunno
20:56 jojoa1997 -.-
20:56 RealBadAngel forever? compare it just to an age of the universe
20:57 jojoa1997 i connect to VanessaE's server faster
20:57 RealBadAngel you will find it way faster then
20:57 jojoa1997 and that takes FOREVER^FOREVER
20:57 VanessaE someone can connect to my server faster than another?  *shock*
20:57 VanessaE even I can't connect to my own server particularly fast sometimes :)
20:57 jojoa1997 yeah i cant even connect to sfan5's
20:58 sfan5 jojoa1997: umm
20:58 jojoa1997 though VanessaE that doesnt mean connecting to yours takes a long time too
20:58 RealBadAngel sfan5<->jojoa compability issues? ;)
20:58 jojoa1997 !up sfan5.dyns.org:30000
20:58 MinetestBot jojoa1997: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
20:58 jojoa1997 !up sfan5.dyns.org 30000
20:58 MinetestBot sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down
20:58 jojoa1997 see
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20:59 jojoa1997 wait what is your sever info again?
20:59 sfan5 jojoa1997: 1) its dyndns.org 2) the server it now at sfan5.minetest.net 3) it was port 30001
20:59 VanessaE that would explain why he couldn't connect
20:59 jojoa1997 !up sfan5.minetest.net 30001
20:59 MinetestBot sfan5.minetest.net:30001 is up (0.497s)
21:00 sfan5 jojoa1997: the SimpleHTTPServer for remote_media crashed, that also made it slower
21:00 jojoa1997 also why are you on minetest.net
21:00 sfan5 because I bought minetest.net ,you know..
21:01 jojoa1997 oh i didnt
21:01 sfan5 no, you can register your own domain on minetest.net at freedns.afraid.org
21:01 jojoa1997 realy?
21:01 sfan5 yes
21:01 jojoa1997 really?
21:01 sfan5 yes
21:01 jojoa1997 soot
21:01 jojoa1997 shoot
21:01 jojoa1997 i cant portforward to computer so nvm
21:03 VanessaE why do you even need to
21:03 VanessaE ?
21:03 sfan5 VanessaE has a point
21:03 jojoa1997 to host a server
21:03 VanessaE I swear, all this "how do I port forward" shit drives me nuts!
21:03 jojoa1997 also how come i can dig on your server?
21:03 VanessaE just connect your damn modem directly to your damn computer.
21:04 jojoa1997 VanessaE not when you have family using it also
21:04 VanessaE jojoa1997: I have two computers and two other devices that share my net.  My husband and I quite commonly use the net at the same time.
21:04 PilzAdam sooooo... has anyone tried the new MiniTest yet?
21:04 VanessaE I did this unique, fabulous, insane thing called putting two NICs in my computer so it can act as the router.
21:05 VanessaE jojoa1997: as for digging (or not?) you're probably not really at where you think you're at - sign out and back in maybe.
21:05 jojoa1997 PilzAdam you updated?
21:05 PilzAdam I have rewritten the whole thing
21:05 PilzAdam (see forum thread)
21:05 jojoa1997 kk
21:06 RealBadAngel btw do we have tnt in minetest_game?
21:06 PilzAdam no, but in MiniTest ;-)
21:06 RealBadAngel so why i can see textures for it in default?
21:06 VanessaE please don't *ever* add tnt to minetest_game (unless it is as a mod i can delete)
21:06 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, I guess the only one who knows is c55
21:07 PilzAdam VanessaE, dont like TNT?
21:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: I don't like destructive things :-)
21:07 RealBadAngel she's she
21:07 RealBadAngel dats why ;)
21:08 VanessaE people abuse lava as it is.  tnt would just be 10 times worse
21:08 jojoa1997 also pilzadam what heavy copyright problems
21:08 jojoa1997 if anything i was giving you credit for what i did via WTFPL
21:09 PilzAdam well, I exaggerated a bit :-)
21:09 jojoa1997 yeah you did
21:09 jojoa1997 a bit^FOREVER
21:10 jojoa1997 also i suggest adding diamond hoes to your minitest
21:10 RealBadAngel btw, somebody shall code candies as minetest mod
21:10 jojoa1997 if you didnt
21:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I already suggested that to jin_xi
21:10 jojoa1997 will hunger be added anytime soon
21:10 VanessaE I hope not.
21:11 jojoa1997 then poeple can really add food to survive
21:11 PilzAdam jojoa1997, already done :-)
21:11 PilzAdam (the diamond hoes)
21:11 jojoa1997 with the ability to op out of hunger
21:11 PilzAdam also gold
21:11 jojoa1997 k
21:11 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, it was added already. had to make 3 sandwiches to kill it
21:11 PilzAdam no hunger, no xp, no non alpha shit
21:11 jojoa1997 also i think diamond hoes should be added to minetest_game
21:11 VanessaE oh you meant minitest, ok
21:12 VanessaE bbl
21:12 jojoa1997 also hunger should be added to minetest but disabled by default
21:12 jojoa1997 but it should be configurable ingame
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21:15 jojoa1997 also how come no hunger pilzadam i thought you wanted survival aspects
21:15 jojoa1997 and right now food is really just for looks
21:15 sfan5 good night
21:15 jojoa1997 night
21:20 * ShadowNinja likes FreeDNS ,,(un shadowninja.minetest.net)
21:20 ShadowNinja !up shadowninja.minetest.net
21:20 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.203ms)
21:20 MinetestBot shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.348s)
21:21 ShadowNinja Oops. Forgot that.
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21:53 * Jordach yawns
21:54 Jordach you dont think i check my pc when its on over night?
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22:42 jojoa1997 PilzAdam have you thought of making a better model for carts?
22:42 PilzAdam no
22:42 jojoa1997 ok
22:45 PilzAdam jojoa1997, why do you want a link here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91408#p91408 ?
22:45 jojoa1997 what is that
22:46 jojoa1997 i cant see it on pc
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22:47 OWNSyouAll_DESKT test
22:48 kaeza PilzAdam, happy 2500th post!
22:48 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91416#p91416
22:49 PilzAdam 2501 :p
22:49 * kaeza has 997 posts :3
22:49 * PilzAdam is hunting for Jordach
22:50 PilzAdam I am the <insert something that Jorach isnt> with the most forum posts!
22:52 khonkhortisan hi deskt
22:53 kaeza PilzAdam, you are the "Developer" with the most and the least forum posts at the same time!
22:54 PilzAdam nope
22:54 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=&amp;show_group=5&amp;sort_by=num_posts&amp;sort_dir=DESC&amp;search=Search
22:54 PilzAdam was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected.
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22:54 PilzAdam !kick ShadowBot
22:54 PilzAdam >:(
22:54 kaeza wut
22:55 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, fix ShadowBot
22:55 kaeza flood detection needs a few tweaks
22:55 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
22:55 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
22:55 PilzAdam !kick ShadowBot
22:56 PilzAdam !kick ShadowBot Fix your flood detection
22:56 ShadowBot was kicked by MinetestBot: Fix
22:56 PilzAdam there we go
22:57 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ fix the message of !kick with multiple words
23:00 PilzAdam bye
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23:05 ShadowNinja sfan5: I had that issue. Use (["KICK", channel, target], message) instead of having it all inside the list.
23:07 ShadowNinja I don't think that paste detection can realy be made much better. At least without adding a lot more complexity. I have disabled it.
23:08 * VanessaE is back.
23:09 ShadowNinja Someone requested a password reset for my minetest.net account... First time that has happened to me. But minetest.net has a good ratio of popularity/number of accounts for that.
23:10 ShadowNinja Hmmm, SSL would be nice...
23:12 * ShadowNinja sets a better password
23:19 khonkhortisan !kick khonkhortisan "multiple word test"
23:24 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: That would kick with a message of "multiple
23:25 ShadowNinja maybe !kick x :multiple words
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