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00:54 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.....
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01:02 lazyminer hey new friends, I was wondering if minetest should build on 64-bit machines?
01:02 ShadowNinja lazyminer: Yes, it works here.
01:03 lazyminer the reason I ask, it looks like on latest ubuntu, the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directory isn't in the CMake search path
01:03 lazyminer which is where my libIrrlicht.a file is, and probably others
01:03 VanessaE lazyminer: works here too, I build exclusively for AMD64 (Ubuntu and slackware)
01:04 VanessaE (I'm on 13.04)
01:04 lazyminer is there anything I should do with cmake other than --clean-first to make sure it finds the right paths?
01:04 lazyminer I'm also on Raring
01:04 ShadowNinja I was thinking of combining the channel webchat links and the log links into one on the website, any thoughts. It would be like so #minetest (Logs) Main minetest channel.
01:05 ShadowNinja lazyminer: rm CmakeCache.txt && cmake (-CRUN_IN_PLACE=1, etc) .
01:05 lazyminer I did try to build on OSX before spinning up a VM, and I'm sharing the source directory between the two, so maybe some old build files are lying around.  I'll start with a fresh checkout.  Thanks
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01:06 ShadowNinja s/-CR/-DR & CmakeCache/CMakeCache
01:10 lazyminer Thanks ShadowNinja, I removed that file w/o success.  Starting from a fresh clone now.
01:11 ShadowNinja VanessaE: What do you think of that?
01:11 VanessaE I dunno really
01:12 lazyminer The cmake step worked perfect with a new checkout. It did all the compiler searching and path locating again, which it didn't seem to do after just removing the CMakeCache or running --clean-first
01:13 ShadowNinja Instead of Channels: #minetest, #minetest-dev, etc. and Logs: #minetest, #minetest-dev, etc. It would be #minetest (logs), #minetest-dev (logs), etc.
01:14 ShadowNinja Does anyone have any objections/support?
01:15 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0 mind = blown
01:15 ShadowNinja Guess not...
01:17 ShadowNinja Hmmm, the globe icon looks ugly next to it. Is there a way to disable that?
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02:27 ShadowNinja sfan5: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/726
02:44 VanessaE bbl
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03:24 ShadowNinja VanessaE: How did you set up minetest to autostart at boot?
03:28 ShadowNinja Looks like someone forgot to remove some test code. All of the craft recipes on my server were just dumped.
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04:26 ShadowNinja I rewrote part of FloodProtector. Much cleaner now. It should also make PilzAdam happy. Once it has been properly tested that is.
04:30 kaeza can I test?
04:30 kaeza groups = {snappy=3},
04:30 kaeza sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(),
04:31 kaeza well, at least that did not trigger it
04:35 ShadowNinja kaeza: aside from nicer code the main difference is that you need to write two long messages imposibly fast instead of one. And it is in debug mode ATM and kicked/banned you for repetition flooding. Obviously it needs some tweaks.
04:35 Jordach hello
04:36 kaeza hai Jordach
04:36 Jordach kaeza, here before you. :>
04:36 khonkhortisan *writes long message* *joins* *pastes*
04:36 kaeza Jordach, stupid modem went haywire and I was just able to connect again :<
04:37 kaeza s/modem/fucking ISP/
04:37 Jordach ProTip: When making a large paste; make a script that spreads it out over three seconds per lne
04:38 ShadowNinja kaeza: oh, nvm, that was in the other channel you tested in.
04:39 ShadowNinja Jordach: That might be too fast when I re-enable these methods. :-)
04:39 kaeza I don't want to flood this one :P
04:40 Jordach ShadowNinja, a line per every three seconds sounds ideal for pastes
04:40 ShadowNinja kaeza: Yes, I have seen that some people don't care...
04:42 ShadowNinja Jordach: 50 chars per second with a minimum of 1.5/75 chars seconds currently. (I think ;-))
04:44 ShadowNinja Imsanely fast for typing. And it should be slow enough to catch pastes.
04:46 ShadowNinja kaeza: Well you had fun with ShadowBot, didn't you. ;-)
04:47 Jordach you should fucking hear the rain outside
04:47 Jordach it's hailing
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05:08 ShiftyCake Hey
05:08 Jordach zing
05:08 Jordach enjoy your new name Guest52686
05:13 Guest52686 Back
05:13 Guest52686 Ooops.
05:13 Guest52686 How do i change it again?
05:14 ShadowNinja A day or two to test before activation. The normal protections are still enabled.
05:15 kaeza hey Aqua
05:15 ShadowNinja Guest52686: /nick ShiftyCake
05:15 Jordach Guest52686, /nick ShiftyCake^2
05:15 Jordach the first one is taken ShadowNinja
05:16 ShadowNinja Well if you don't own it you can take it if it has expired.
05:16 Guest52686 I do i just forgot how to log in with it...
05:16 Jordach mine will never be taken fwahahahaha
05:17 Guest52686 So...when's 0.4.7 gonna be released?
05:17 Jordach when it does
05:17 kaeza Guest52686, /msg nickserv identify <password>
05:19 kaeza someone pressed the wrong 'X'
05:20 Jordach zing
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05:21 Guest369 Can't change to ShiftyCake
05:21 Guest369 [15:20] == *** (qwebirc) Looking up your hostname... [15:20] == *** (qwebirc) Couldn't look up your hostname! [15:20] == Connected to server. [15:20] -herbert.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname... [15:20] -herbert.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident [15:20] -herbert.freenode.net- *** No Ident response [15:20] -herbert.freenode.net- *** Couldn't look up your hostname [15:20] == ShiftyCake Nick/channel is temporarily unavaila
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05:22 kaeza use a variation of it, like ShiftyCake2
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05:23 kaeza or ShiftyCakeMT
05:23 Guest369 Why?
05:23 Guest369 I registered it
05:23 Guest369 A long time ago'
05:23 ShadowNinja Guest369: /msg nickserv release
05:25 ShiftyCake 'Thanks
05:25 ShiftyCake ShadowNinja
05:25 ShadowNinja You're welcome :-)
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05:45 ShiftyCake Hi
05:57 Jordach hey StarBlessed
05:58 Jordach when im hitting itunes over the head with a hammer, theres a problem
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06:00 StarBlessed Hey Jordach :)  Hows things?
06:00 ShiftyCake Hey StarBlessed I like your videos
06:01 Jordach not bad
06:01 StarBlessed Hey ShiftyCake :)  Thanks.  Thats great to hear.  You dont hear much feedback unless its bad.  ;)
06:01 StarBlessed Cool Jordach :)  I just got off work.
06:02 ShiftyCake Jordach how many posts do you have on the forums?
06:02 StarBlessed Hehe!  Thousands I bet
06:03 Jordach 3000+
06:03 ShiftyCake Theres like 26 guests on the forums...and 0 registered members. Thats a sight
06:03 * Jordach is off to school
06:03 * Jordach also has an exam
06:03 Jordach ill be idling
06:04 Jordach like normal
06:04 StarBlessed OOk, catcha Jordach :)  Good luck!
06:04 ShiftyCake Jordach did you know SilverWolfLily22 has 69 posts?
06:04 Jordach yus
06:05 ShiftyCake Laptop is making such a loud sound..
06:05 ShiftyCake I'm uploading a video..while playing an FPS
06:06 StarBlessed LOL!  nice
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06:06 ShiftyCake Hey OldCoder
06:08 ShiftyCake StarBlessed, do you play any other games?
06:09 StarBlessed Yup, Im playing WurmOnline right now ;)
06:10 StarBlessed And you?
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06:11 ShiftyCake Oh cool. I'm playing some FOG's.
06:11 StarBlessed Ok, nice.  Im building a damned fence ;)
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06:24 OldCoder Hi
06:24 OldCoder Zzz
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10:09 kaeza I just had a silly idea
10:09 kaeza since entities now block players, doors can be implemented as entities (and animated, of course)
10:11 kaeza hmm... nope
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10:22 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:22 PilzAdam lol: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=How_to_communicate&amp;curid=320&amp;diff=1278&amp;oldid=1252&amp;rcid=1371
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10:43 Calinou hi
10:49 kaeza hey Calinou
10:53 kaeza there's a party down here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3506711369.jpg
10:54 Calinou heh
10:54 Calinou model lighting still isn't fixed :/
10:55 PilzAdam kaeza, Simple Mobs \o/
10:56 kaeza PilzAdam, yup
10:56 kaeza even though their spawn rate is too high, I find them less resource-demanding than MOBF
10:58 kaeza (at least I don't get as many hiccups in the mapgen, etc)
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11:35 sfan5 hi
11:42 kaeza hey sfan
11:53 PilzAdam sfan5, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-05-22#i_3102157
11:59 kaeza rawr
11:59 * kaeza fixed some ugly homedecor bugs :3
12:03 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=*hm*&amp;show_group=5&amp;sort_by=num_posts&amp;sort_dir=DESC&amp;search=Search
12:03 Calinou weird
12:03 Calinou there was another "hmm" back in 2011
12:03 Calinou who made a better default pack and posted a few screenshots
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12:12 * VanessaE is back
12:12 * Calinou is front
12:12 Calinou wb
12:12 VanessaE hi
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12:26 sfan5 PilzAdam: http://git.io/Fc2XcA
12:26 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
12:26 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-05-23 12:28:11)
12:27 sfan5 !kick sfan5 this is a test
12:27 sfan5 was kicked by MinetestBot: this
12:27 Calinou chop
12:27 * Calinou zooms in
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12:27 sfan5 :/
12:28 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
12:28 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-05-23 12:29:55)
12:28 sfan5 !kick sfan5 this is a test
12:28 sfan5 was kicked by MinetestBot: this is a test
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14:35 VanessaE bbl
14:43 sfan5 !tw KimDotcom
14:43 MinetestBot According to the latest research, 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the world's population. (@KimDotcom)
14:43 sfan5 ^ this!
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15:08 n35386 hello all
15:08 jordach2 my pc is still on!? holy fuck
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15:39 rubenwardy Hi all
15:40 jojoa1997 Rubenwardy could you make a download of your nodebox generator with the right libraries in it
15:41 rubenwardy It does
15:41 rubenwardy wait..
15:42 rubenwardy Yeah
15:42 rubenwardy The only library needed is irrlicht.dll which is supplied
15:42 rubenwardy of course you need c++ libraries as well
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15:44 jojoa1997 i put them in the folder and it gives me an arror
15:44 jojoa1997 error
15:44 jojoa1997 i already posted it a while ago
15:45 rubenwardy Have you tried the new version?
15:45 rubenwardy that was a problem a while ago of me building it in debug
15:49 jojoa1997 the new version has the same thing
15:49 jojoa1997 that is where i got the error
15:49 rubenwardy Exact same dll missing?
15:49 jojoa1997 no i added the dlls
15:49 jojoa1997 but i get some waird error
15:50 rubenwardy What is the message?
15:50 jojoa1997 idr right now
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15:50 jojoa1997 gtg bell rag
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15:50 jojoa1997 rang
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15:53 markveidemanis Who here knows Python and is willing to help me with a small project
15:53 rubenwardy learn it your self
15:55 proller markveidemanis, use perl;
15:55 markveidemanis I dont know perl
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15:57 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I changed the paste flood detector. You now need to type two messages imposibly fast. It has been in debug mode for a while and it seems that there were no issues. ,,(reload FloodProtector)
15:57 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: invalid syntax (plugin.py, line 60)
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15:58 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: load FloodProtector
15:58 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
15:58 ShadowNinja There, enabled.
16:00 rubenwardy What if I want to write two lines of text, like I often do. Would it kick me?
16:01 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: If you pasted more than two lines of text it would kick you.
16:02 rubenwardy > or >=?
16:02 ShadowNinja Or if you pasted two and typed just before pasting. >
16:03 ShadowNinja If you just type you have to be awfully fast. ;-)
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16:09 rubenwardy Jordach: my game now runs at 42-50 fps
16:09 rubenwardy optimised a piece of code
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16:10 Calinou "optimisation?" --AAA game developer
16:11 rubenwardy It was 5-10fps
16:16 jojoa1997|Tablet i have a question about github minetest
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16:16 jojoa1997|Tablet will the optifine zoom pull request be added?
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16:20 rubenwardy https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/983982_490345577704928_1801244727_n.jpg
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16:21 rubenwardy ^ Can any one see that?
16:22 PilzAdam what is that?
16:22 rubenwardy Build a world
16:23 rubenwardy A minecraft clone using irrlich
16:23 rubenwardy t
16:23 rubenwardy http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=48105&amp;sid=550eadb87d7faf6f2dd9d4795be36128
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16:24 rubenwardy If I add a shader to client/shaders, is it rendered automatically? Do I need to edit the source/recompile?
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16:24 rubenwardy I might experiement with shaders
16:24 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you need to edit the source to apply the shader to material
16:25 rubenwardy Ok
16:25 * Calinou accepted applejack ward on steam
16:25 * Calinou pokes rubenwardy by the way
16:25 Calinou :trollface:
16:25 rubenwardy Hmmm
16:25 rubenwardy Aj = Andrew Jay Ward
16:25 rubenwardy my real name
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16:29 rubenwardy Hmmm
16:30 rubenwardy Would it be possible to make grass like this in minetest w/ lua? https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/983982_490345577704928_1801244727_n.jpg
16:32 sfan5 rubenwardy: yes
16:32 rubenwardy With animations
16:34 Calinou animated textures are easy :P
16:34 rubenwardy mesh
16:34 rubenwardy not textures
16:34 Calinou not easy then
16:36 jordach2 rubenwardy nice
16:36 jordach2 (optimisation)
16:39 rubenwardy Yeah, I knew what you meant :P
16:41 jordach2 rubenwardy, my pc is still on
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16:46 * sfan5 is trying some assembler programming and right at the first instruction I get SIGSEGV
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16:50 PilzAdam sfan5, wich assembler?
16:50 sfan5 PilzAdam: do you mean the platform, or the assembler syntax, or something else?
16:51 PilzAdam everything ;-)
16:51 sfan5 well...
16:52 sfan5 x86-64 , GAS syntax
16:53 * PilzAdam has done some "Hello World" programs with that too
16:54 sfan5 "mov    %eax,0x1" segfaults
16:55 Calinou MOV PilzAdam TRASH;
16:56 PilzAdam I guess the assembler doesnt even accept this ^
16:57 sfan5 oh god
16:57 sfan5 I shouldn't have started my forkbomb
16:58 Calinou fff
16:58 kaeza Calinou, movl %trash, (4)PilzAdam
16:59 sfan5 damnit!
16:59 sfan5 I can't defuse my forkbomb
16:59 Calinou reboot
16:59 jordach2 oops
17:00 Calinou or spawn a gardevoir
17:00 Calinou eats forks
17:00 sfan5 Calinou: how
17:00 * jordach2 slaps Calinou
17:00 Calinou "spawn_gardevoir" in jordach2's terminal
17:00 sfan5 I read that on Wikipedia while ago, but I can't do anything that requires a new process
17:00 jordach2 Calinou, lololololol
17:00 jordach2 im using my ipad moron
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17:01 Zeg9 Hi
17:01 markveidemanis Hi Zeg9!
17:01 PilzAdam Zeg9, hi
17:02 PilzAdam I have heard you want to create textures for MiniTest :-)
17:02 markveidemanis Can someone test something for me?
17:02 jordach2 no
17:02 markveidemanis 86.165.88.57 Python, use socket to connect and send text
17:02 PilzAdam !op
17:03 markveidemanis was kicked by PilzAdam: markveidemanis
17:03 Zeg9 PilzAdam: yep
17:04 jordach2 markv. needs to stop with python
17:04 PilzAdam Zeg9, awesome!
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17:04 markveidemanis What The Fuck
17:04 sfan5 markveidemanis: you can try it yourself
17:04 markveidemanis No i cant
17:04 Zeg9 Looks like my printer is in "8-bit" mode...
17:04 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you know why
17:04 markveidemanis I need to test my port forward
17:04 PilzAdam stop talking about your python programs here
17:05 Zeg9 "you know why" reminds me of that stupid panda ad
17:05 jordach2 markveidemanis, ask LandMime
17:05 PilzAdam this is not #test-my-portforward
17:05 rubenwardy markveidemanis!*@* added to ignore list.
17:06 Calinou thanks
17:06 PilzAdam rubenwardy, I cant :-( I have to read his messages to kick him
17:06 rubenwardy You are an op?
17:06 rubenwardy when did that happen?
17:07 sfan5 rubenwardy: he can use MinetestBot to op himself
17:07 rubenwardy ...
17:07 rubenwardy He has to have admin privs first
17:07 rubenwardy !op
17:07 rubenwardy see?
17:07 sfan5 he had
17:07 sfan5 *has
17:08 rubenwardy exactly
17:08 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: MinetestBot and ShadowBot can OP people if they are registered and have the required capabilities.
17:08 rubenwardy that is not my question
17:08 ShadowNinja (Or are an admin in the case of MinetestBot)
17:09 sfan5 anyone know how to defuse a forkbomb without spawning an extra process
17:09 sfan5 ?
17:09 rubenwardy power plug?
17:09 Calinou ^
17:09 sfan5 thats the thing I'd do last
17:09 Calinou do it first
17:09 ShadowNinja sfan5: /etc/security/limits(.something)?
17:09 Calinou there is no way to disarm a forkbomb once it has been started
17:10 sfan5 ShadowNinja: after it was run..
17:10 Calinou (inb4 the.x.y.z proves me wrong)
17:10 sfan5 Calinou: there are some -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
17:10 jordach2 sfan5, have you tried switching it off and on again
17:11 sfan5 jordach2: instructions not clear.. d**k stuck in ceiling fan
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17:11 rubenwardy I have a bash script like that
17:11 sfan5 whatever... I'll use the power plug option
17:12 rubenwardy Creates "your system has a virus" windows
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17:12 thefamilygrog66 howdy all
17:12 rubenwardy hi!
17:13 thefamilygrog66 I was wondering if there was a trick to using nodeboxgen in windows
17:13 thefamilygrog66 I keep receiving the "...is not a valid win32 application" message
17:14 rubenwardy I have no idea why
17:14 rubenwardy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11305633/xxxxxx-exe-is-not-a-valid-win32-application
17:14 rubenwardy That would be why
17:14 rubenwardy I use VS 2012, and it does not run in XP
17:15 rubenwardy I will build using VS 2010, wait a sec...
17:15 rubenwardy nevermind
17:15 kaeza rubenwardy, or MinGW32
17:17 jordach2 rubenwardy, they need microsoft visual studio 2012 distributable
17:17 jordach2 thats why it wont work on xp
17:19 thefamilygrog66 ahh, me and my old - but reliable - computers
17:20 thefamilygrog66 there's a linux build too, no?
17:21 * Calinou 's computer is new and reliable
17:21 thefamilygrog66 mutually exclusive - haha
17:22 rubenwardy Linux builds are pointless
17:22 thefamilygrog66 why?
17:22 rubenwardy It is so easy to build for yourself on linux
17:23 thefamilygrog66 ah, I see - I'll build one tonight
17:23 thefamilygrog66 aw man, that's like three lines I'll have to copy/paste
17:23 rubenwardy see the one line script
17:24 thefamilygrog66 yeah, still too much work
17:24 thefamilygrog66 hahaha
17:24 thefamilygrog66 just messing with ya
17:29 Zeg9 http://imgur.com/zhDeKow,vKHrl8G
17:29 * Zeg9 is waiting for comments
17:30 rubenwardy what is it?
17:30 Zeg9 ore block textures
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17:32 PilzAdam Zeg9, interesting
17:32 PilzAdam at least better as the current ones
17:32 rubenwardy yeah
17:33 * thefamilygrog66 is partial to the minetoon ones
17:33 Zeg9 brb ...
17:33 Calinou not shiny enough, Zeg9
17:33 Calinou add some shininess and it'll be fine
17:34 Calinou also gold should be more orange-ish
17:37 kaeza wat http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91490#p91490
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17:41 Calinou probably a secret brony message
17:41 * Calinou translates
17:41 Calinou SIGFPE
17:42 kaeza lol that link takes me nowhere
17:43 kaeza (actually, it takes me to about:blank)
17:43 Calinou same
17:43 Calinou removed it :P
17:43 kaeza <--- Chromium User
17:43 Calinou chromium ftw
17:43 cisoun the latest version sucks for me
17:44 cisoun rendering bugs everywhere :(
17:44 kaeza Version 20.0.1132.47 Ubuntu 12.04 (144678) here
17:44 cisoun 27.0.1453.93-1
17:45 kaeza just a few crashes every once in a while
17:45 kaeza in fact, I lost 4m candies last night ;_;
17:45 rubenwardy <---- Firefox/Chrome/IE/Safari user
17:45 * kaeza will remember to save more often
17:46 thefamilygrog66 IE6 here
17:46 cisoun rubenwardy: Safari, why not. IE dafuq
17:46 cisoun wat
17:46 thefamilygrog66 just kidding
17:46 thefamilygrog66 haha
17:46 kaeza ^ kill him
17:46 cisoun NEVER DO THAT AGAIN
17:46 * thefamilygrog66 is a troll sometimes
17:46 sfan5 In case anyone find a remote code execution exploit on a linux server, execute this:  \xb0\x02\x31\xdb\xcd\x80\xeb\xf8
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17:48 rubenwardy I only use all those web browser because i test my websites
17:48 PilzAdam sfan5, what doest that do?
17:49 sfan5 mov    $0x2, %al; xor    %ebx, %ebx; int    $0x80; jmp    . - 9
17:49 thefamilygrog66 Lynx browser ftw
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17:50 cisoun sfan5: y u no C
17:50 sfan5 cisoun: gcc creates way to large programs
17:50 cisoun you can optimize them
17:50 cisoun otherwise => tcc
17:50 Calinou version 25 (xubuntu 13.04)
17:51 cisoun (archfag here)
17:51 Calinou installing chromium from http://goo.gl/A5jMJ doesn't work anymore
17:51 Calinou hello archfag
17:51 Calinou :3
17:51 Calinou ("I/O error", in console I need libudev something)
17:51 Calinou probably due to dependency names
17:51 Calinou installed libudev and doesn't work
17:51 * VanessaE is back.
17:51 Calinou wb VanessaE
17:51 VanessaE thanks
17:51 thefamilygrog66 howdy V
17:52 VanessaE hey
17:52 PilzAdam lol: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91489#p91489
17:52 PilzAdam look at the URL
17:53 cisoun Meh, only firefox compatible
17:53 PilzAdam FF doesnt even open this
17:53 cisoun really ?
17:53 cisoun wut
17:54 VanessaE works for me in FF, PilzAdam.
17:54 Calinou huh, I don't get any link when pointing that link
17:54 Calinou and clicking does nothing
17:54 * Calinou only uses FF for quake live
17:54 VanessaE oh the on-page link
17:54 VanessaE [quote=addi]@ Semmett9 : Go in Firefox to Settings -> content -> Activate Javascript[/quote][url=about:config]Does it work here, too?[/url]
17:54 VanessaE the source code of the post ^^^
17:54 PilzAdam VanessaE, what version?
17:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: nevermind, didn't realize you meant the link in the post, not the URL pointing to the post.
17:55 VanessaE doesn't work for me either.  that ^^^^ is the code he posted.
17:55 thefamilygrog66 does nothing here on firefox 20.0.1
17:56 kaeza hey V
17:56 VanessaE hey kaeza
17:57 kaeza seen latest homedecor pull?
17:57 kaeza also: http://www.arwrath.com/content/4/45425.jpg
17:58 VanessaE not yet
17:58 * VanessaE looks
17:58 VanessaE merged :D
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18:00 kaeza thanks :D
18:00 kaeza I tested and that works
18:01 kaeza you can now open doors with fences in hand :)
18:01 VanessaE lemme deploy it to the server and we'll see :D
18:01 kaeza fun fact: I passed all night trying to fix the on_place for "homedecor:fence_brass" (in fences.lua), when in fact, the function was being re-assigned in the register_fence_with_sign (in signs_lib.lua) :|
18:01 VanessaE actually it'll have to wait, there's actually some people on for a change :)
18:02 VanessaE heh
18:03 thefamilygrog66 Hey V, do you have the most recent version of lrfurn running on your server? (i.e. the one with longsofas)
18:03 VanessaE lemme check
18:03 VanessaE yes, I have it
18:04 thefamilygrog66 cool - yer on the ball!
18:04 VanessaE damn straight :D
18:04 thefamilygrog66 hehe
18:04 VanessaE suggestion btw:  render an inventory image for each of the couches.
18:04 Calinou (the orange couch should have homer simpson on it)
18:04 Calinou more realistic
18:04 Calinou </jojoa1997>
18:04 kaeza 8D
18:05 thefamilygrog66 good idea - I'll work on that
18:05 VanessaE I usually use a screenshot of the placed object - trimmed and scaled of course.
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18:06 thefamilygrog66 I made a "photobooth" for previous ones (I redid the textures for travelnet, for example)
18:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, why not a 1080p screenshot? ;-)
18:07 thefamilygrog66 just a white block walls/floor with an open roof - made it easier to remove the background in gimp
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18:21 MJaoune can someone give me the real Dev IRC channel?
18:22 Calinou #minetest-dev
18:22 PilzAdam see topic
18:22 Calinou PilzAdam: don't be lazy, write 4 more characters :-)
18:23 MJaoune Cannot send to channel: #minetest-dev
18:23 MJaoune thats what i get
18:23 PilzAdam webchat is muted in #minetest-dev
18:23 PilzAdam use a real IRC client
18:23 Calinou ^
18:23 PilzAdam (too many spammer/flooder)
18:23 Calinou http://hexchat.org
18:23 MJaoune aha
18:23 MJaoune thanks
18:24 MJaoune :)
18:24 MJaoune btw
18:24 MJaoune i wanna volunteer and make a server
18:24 MJaoune for minetest
18:24 MJaoune but seems the server needs some libraries
18:24 Calinou then do it
18:24 MJaoune does anyone know them?
18:24 Calinou it needs everything the client needs
18:24 Calinou sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev
18:24 PilzAdam no, it doesnt need Irrlicht
18:24 Calinou you can remove irrlicht if you want
18:24 Calinou but you'll spend less time installing it :P
18:25 Calinou and not removing it from that line
18:25 PilzAdam can you even install irrlicht on a server without a XServer?
18:26 kaeza yep
18:26 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Building_without_Irrlicht.2FX_dependency
18:27 PilzAdam MJaoune, ^
18:28 Calinou yes you can :P
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18:29 kaeza Calinou, :troll:face: looks better
18:30 Calinou no :(
18:30 Calinou I edited it
18:30 kaeza also, aweome ninka skillz! there isn't even an edit notice :P
18:30 kaeza awesome*
18:30 kaeza ninja*
18:31 Calinou moderator skills*
18:31 Calinou the silent edit checkbox is checked by default :(
18:31 kaeza Calinou, remember: trolling is a art
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18:37 MJaoune_ Cilanou
18:37 MJaoune_ can you give me the server host ip/name for the irc?
18:37 MJaoune_ so i can connect using hexchat
18:37 Calinou irc.freenode.net
18:37 Calinou port 6667
18:38 rubenwardy Just look up free node
18:38 rubenwardy on the dialog
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18:38 MJaoune_ thank you
18:38 MJaoune_ got it
18:38 MJaoune_ :)
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18:39 PilzAdam <MJaoune_> Cilanou
18:39 PilzAdam :D
18:39 Calinou :D
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18:40 MNJaoune doesnt matter
18:40 MNJaoune he understood it :P
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18:58 ShadowNinja VanessaE: How did you set up minetest to autostart at boot?
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19:04 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I linked it into rc.local and used screen to run it
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19:08 jojoa1997 is it possible to disable fall damage of a player when they use a command?
19:09 kaeza yes
19:09 jojoa1997 how do i disable fall damage?
19:09 kaeza edit the sources :P
19:09 jojoa1997 with lua
19:10 MJaoune yes, lua is for plugins
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19:11 jojoa1997 i meant is there a function like minetest.register_node
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19:15 Miner_48er is dc4 the charecter that allows you to type on multiple lines?
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19:16 Calinou huh?
19:16 Calinou for what?
19:16 Miner_48er MT
19:16 Calinou \n is newline
19:17 ShadowNinja I don't have a rc.local. Do you know what I could use on Arch Linux VanessaE?
19:17 VanessaE no clue there
19:18 kaeza ShadowNinja, init.d?
19:18 Calinou type it yourself, you lazy guy
19:18 Calinou the arch way ^
19:18 kaeza (or rc.init, I can't remember)
19:19 ShadowNinja systemd it seems. But that is a little more complex I think.
19:20 Miner_48er example laaagrr unknown characters cause a new line
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20:01 Calinou lol
20:01 Calinou on #minecrafthelp @ espernet some guy told some other guy to use pastebin to post an error log
20:02 Calinou this is what they posted: http://pastebin.com/mepFZFMe
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20:10 Broam lmao
20:11 Calinou hello PC user
20:11 Calinou for once :-)
20:13 PilzAdam doublechests added to MiniTest
20:19 thefamilygrog66 hey PilzAdam: I've been messing with simple mobs, and have changed the dungeonmasters so they spawn on desert sand. So far they've burned holes through cliffs, and burned down two entire jungles! Damn griefer mobs.
20:19 PilzAdam :D
20:19 thefamilygrog66 Those fireballs burn EVERYTHING.
20:19 thefamilygrog66 Even water!
20:21 PilzAdam I should make this work in MiniTest: http://youtu.be/rT1Z9p1xiCM
20:21 * Calinou would like to finally see simple mobs in default
20:21 Calinou PilzAdam, did LuaJIT make it fast enough?
20:21 PilzAdam dunno
20:21 Calinou also a few movement bugs need to be fixed
20:22 kaeza random (probably related): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlHBsOOga3Q
20:22 Calinou if mobs are right under or above you they glitch :/
20:22 Calinou also, why not make dungeon masters immune to shallow (flowing) lava, if possible?
20:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: re: simple mobs...why no screenshots?
20:26 PilzAdam screenshots of... ?
20:26 VanessaE of the creatures in the mod?
20:26 PilzAdam ah, you mean in the topic?
20:27 VanessaE yeah, for the first post
20:28 * thefamilygrog66 also removed rats - hate 'em
20:29 thefamilygrog66 sheep and monsters (all moved above ground so that they die come sunrise) - all I need for my server
20:29 VanessaE sound a few on page 12..
20:29 VanessaE found*
20:30 Calinou rats are fine :P
20:31 thefamilygrog66 Too many rats...
20:32 Calinou change rat's model for a pony model, problem solved
20:33 thefamilygrog66 Speaking of which, is there any way to set a life span for mobs, so that they disappear after a certain amount of time? Right now monsters die when the sun comes up, but sheep need to be regularly culled.
20:33 thefamilygrog66 (unless they fall in the water, that is)
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20:34 VanessaE I'm toying with the idea of adding simple mobs (well, just the sheep and rats) to my server, hence my question
20:34 thefamilygrog66 no, not rats!
20:34 thefamilygrog66 :)
20:34 VanessaE (maybe oerkki too, as I recall that one being somewhat less than lethal)
20:34 Calinou sheep die in night unless near node light?
20:34 Calinou :trollface:
20:34 Calinou they get too scared and die of scariness :3
20:34 Calinou VanessaE, oerkki are hostile mobs that use melee to fight
20:34 VanessaE ick
20:35 thefamilygrog66 I'd rather a timer based lifespan, if possible
20:35 Calinou just like sand, dirt and stone monsters
20:35 Calinou all rounder between these
20:35 VanessaE been ages since I last had any in my maps
20:35 thefamilygrog66 It would be cool to get the monsters to attack the sheep at night though
20:35 thefamilygrog66 Keep the population in check
20:36 thefamilygrog66 It would also distract them from attacking me...
20:36 Calinou keep the population in credit card
20:36 kaeza and the other way around
20:36 thefamilygrog66 Killer sheep!
20:36 Calinou use sheep to not be attacked by monsters
20:36 Calinou GENIUS
20:36 * Calinou does that with thefamilygrog66
20:36 thefamilygrog66 wait, what?
20:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: I notice some talk of a deer model, has this since been added to simple mobs?
20:37 kaeza inb4 simple mobs == MOBF
20:37 VanessaE :P
20:37 kaeza :P
20:37 PilzAdam no
20:37 VanessaE too bad
20:37 VanessaE it looks nice
20:37 Calinou inafter simple mobs == MOBF
20:38 PilzAdam Simple Mobs + 10000 LOC == MOBS
20:38 PilzAdam *useless LOC
20:38 VanessaE eh
20:38 VanessaE heh
20:38 thefamilygrog66 fight fight
20:39 thefamilygrog66 :D
20:39 kaeza a wild YAMM appears
20:39 * Calinou fights YAMM with YAQS
20:39 Calinou </phoronix>
20:40 thefamilygrog66 Hey V: if you have monster mobs on your server, people can always heal themselves by sitting on a sofa, right? :)
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20:40 Calinou hi jojoa1997 (and jojoa :P)
20:41 Calinou thefamilygrog66, do these heal faster than a mob attacks you?
20:41 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: well I suppose, it's just that I don't want mobs on my server that inflict a lot of damage on a player, or any damage whatsoever on structures (so a DM is right out if it acts like the 0.3.x one did)
20:41 Calinou what if several mobs attack you?
20:41 Calinou what about DMs? :P
20:41 thefamilygrog66 Calinou: fully heal once you right-click on them
20:41 Calinou IMO DMs shouldn't damage terrain, just cause fire
20:41 sfan5 good night
20:41 Calinou thefamilygrog66, too easy
20:41 thefamilygrog66 DMs burn everything...
20:41 VanessaE fire mod on my server is disabled, so I guess I can't use simple mobs anyway  :-/
20:41 Calinou should heal half a heart per 30 seconds maybe
20:42 Calinou when you're on them
20:42 Calinou but this shouldn't have anything to do with clicking
20:42 thefamilygrog66 Calinou: sounds like your couch isn't as comfy as mine
20:42 thefamilygrog66 :)
20:42 Calinou there's my cat on my couch, so it is better than yours >:(
20:43 thefamilygrog66 the player right-clicks on one to teleport to it (a la bed mod) and heal
20:43 VanessaE PilzAdam: also, your wiki is outdated (no mention of that tree monster or mummy, or whatever else you have in the mod)
20:43 PilzAdam will update it soon
20:43 VanessaE ok
20:43 * thefamilygrog66 has two cats, for the win
20:44 Calinou only one here
20:44 Calinou SLI of cats? :(
20:44 Calinou or CFX?
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20:45 kaeza bleh: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91505#p91505
20:45 Calinou congrats
20:45 Calinou I just have about 2× more :3
20:45 kaeza thanks! :3
20:45 Calinou by the way, you have a similar signature to mine, with a quote :
20:46 Calinou :P*
20:46 Calinou lol'd
20:46 Calinou forks aren't made of silver ._.
20:46 Calinou else I'd be (fairly) rich
20:46 thefamilygrog66 hmm, 69 posts and standing...
20:46 thefamilygrog66 oh well
20:46 kaeza that's an actual quote from #lua
20:46 Calinou 69 posts
20:46 * Calinou zooms in
20:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you make the fire mod soft-depended, since only the DM seems to use it?
20:47 RealBadAngel kaeza, congraulations on 1000th
20:47 kaeza thanks! :D
20:47 kaeza hey RBA
20:47 Calinou pop corn: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=MTM3Nzg
20:47 Calinou I was waiting for that phoronix news :3
20:47 kaeza how's the bump mapping coming along?
20:48 * Calinou has 319.17 already
20:48 RealBadAngel on weekend i think
20:48 RealBadAngel code is "almost" good
20:48 Calinou the forum topic about that news is also missing :P
20:48 RealBadAngel just a few flaws in code that looks for files
20:49 kaeza nice
20:49 kaeza would be good to have real lights in MT
20:49 RealBadAngel i make it look for existence of normal map files
20:49 thefamilygrog66 bye for now folks
20:49 RealBadAngel but it have to face all this stuff with ^
20:50 VanessaE later grog
20:51 RealBadAngel thx to a few days of testing i figured out situations when my code is failing
20:51 VanessaE kaeza: those homedecor fixes have been deployed to the server if you wanna play around with them
20:51 jojoa1997 back'
20:51 jojoa1997 going
20:51 jojoa1997 who was jojoa
20:51 kaeza you?
20:52 kaeza VanessaE, ok
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20:53 Calinou wb jojoa1997
20:53 jojoa1997 ok so who was jojoa
20:53 RealBadAngel everybody watch out for jojoa strike back
20:53 Calinou you, jojoa1997
20:53 Calinou /whois said so at least :P
20:53 Calinou including hostname
20:53 jojoa1997 not me
20:54 jojoa1997 ?
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20:54 jojoa1997 must have had 2 clients open at onece
20:54 RealBadAngel he has clones
20:54 jojoa1997 yes
20:54 kaeza one is enough :|
20:54 jojoa1997 i payed to have myself cloned
20:54 jojoa1997 therebrb hg start
20:54 RealBadAngel and somebody play mind tricks on him
20:55 jojoa1997 back
20:55 jojoa1997 i have 5bil^tril clones
20:56 jojoa1997 all intent on taking down
20:56 jojoa1997 kaeza!
20:57 jojoa1997 i see you
20:57 kaeza no
20:57 kaeza you see my nickname
20:57 kaeza I don't have any webcam
20:58 kaeza unless...
20:58 kaeza GOOGLE HOUSE VIEW!
20:58 RealBadAngel mind tricks
20:58 VanessaE kaeza: that little pinhole in the corner of your monitor..the one you thought was a manufacturer's defect...
20:58 VanessaE there's a camera in there :D
20:59 VanessaE RealBadAngel: these are not the nicks you are looking for.
20:59 kaeza :O
20:59 RealBadAngel kazea have you spotted a car with with cam fooling around lately when going to toilet lately?
20:59 jojoa1997 that will be me
20:59 VanessaE kaeza: need to do a server restart.  I'm gonna try something, this might break.  if it doesn't, well, the server will be up in less than 10 seconds :D
21:00 RealBadAngel VanessaE, and what are the nicks i look for?
21:00 kaeza RealBadAngel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVDp5eBMhU
21:01 kaeza VanessaE, ok
21:01 VanessaE ok, my server has simple mobs now - only peaceful mobs enabled, and fire bypassed.
21:02 RealBadAngel lol
21:02 RealBadAngel funny vid
21:02 kaeza :D
21:03 RealBadAngel those guys seen from back, priceless
21:03 FreeFull Imagine inverse fire
21:03 FreeFull Instead of burning things, it places blocks
21:03 RealBadAngel somebody have real funny idea
21:05 jojoa1997 that cheater
21:05 jojoa1997 he had a wooden sword and the message says i was killed bya  iron sword
21:08 PilzAdam jojoa1997, this might interest you: https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/commit/50e74f49011811e10bc7574a6067e3c178875ed1
21:09 jojoa1997 send me a link in a pm on the forum
21:09 PilzAdam ehm, why?
21:09 jojoa1997 i cant go on github
21:09 jojoa1997 or i would use it
21:10 PilzAdam its a commit that adds doublechests to MiniTest
21:10 jojoa1997 it is easier using my tablet and if you send me a pm on forum i can know it is right
21:10 jojoa1997 oh ok
21:12 Calinou night
21:12 VanessaE night
21:12 jojoa1997 i will add it to mine
21:15 jojoa1997 PilzAdam i like how you have the nodes crafts and items seperated i might do that
21:16 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: MODE -o?
21:16 PilzAdam havent noticed
21:17 ShadowNinja You aren't the only one that does that. ;-)
21:17 VanessaE bbl
21:20 jojoa1997 PilzAdam have you thought of changing the furnace, chests, and player inventry to 9 wide
21:20 jojoa1997 cause that is how minecraft has it
21:22 PilzAdam so the player has a 9*4 inventory?
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21:23 RealBadAngel what for?
21:23 jojoa1997 yeah
21:23 RealBadAngel is 9*4 kinda magic number or what?
21:23 jojoa1997 becuase minecraft did it that way so minitest should
21:24 jojoa1997 minetest is 8*4
21:24 jojoa1997 wait
21:24 RealBadAngel no, we shall wait till mc changes to 8*4
21:24 jojoa1997 no the chest inven is 9*3
21:24 jojoa1997 that wont happen
21:24 kaeza lol
21:24 kaeza yes it will
21:24 RealBadAngel ofc it will. just wait
21:24 RealBadAngel theyre out of ideas
21:25 kaeza Minecraft? that shitty Minetest clone??
21:25 kaeza :P
21:25 RealBadAngel and jeb is lookin for them everywhere
21:25 * RealBadAngel waves at Jeb
21:26 PilzAdam damit, he found me
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21:26 jojoa1997 anyways a bigger inventory is a plus
21:26 RealBadAngel rotfl
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21:27 jojoa1997 if a nodebox is wallmounted and i dont set the ceiling one will there be no ceiling node for it?
21:28 RealBadAngel huh?
21:30 RealBadAngel btw, speakin of the ideas
21:30 RealBadAngel i think we need user defined ways of crafting
21:30 jojoa1997 ?
21:30 kaeza hm?
21:31 jojoa1997 also
21:31 RealBadAngel not hardcoded ones like blue proposed
21:31 RealBadAngel but fully defineable
21:31 jojoa1997 i mean say i get rid of the top mounted nodebox desc for torches
21:31 jojoa1997 will i not be able to place on ceilings
21:32 kaeza RealBadAngel, I don't quite follow
21:33 jojoa1997 like
21:33 jojoa1997 needing something to be near you to craft?
21:33 kaeza use complete sentences >:(
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21:34 PilzAdam kaeza, happy 1000 posts
21:34 MJaoune anyone knows how to install irrlicht + irrlicht-devel through fedora or centos (YUM)
21:34 MJaoune ?
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21:35 kaeza PilzAdam, thanks :D
21:35 * kaeza still has ways to go
21:35 * kaeza will convert into a posting machine (read: jojoa1997)
21:35 jojoa1997 ?
21:35 khonkhortisan VanessaE, what task must I complete to get interact on your server?
21:36 RealBadAngel like "crafting" "cooking" etc, all registered with lua
21:36 RealBadAngel this way we can allow user smelting/cooking/mixing devices made easy
21:36 RealBadAngel and bring alloy furnace to default game also
21:36 kaeza you must find the master sword in the temple of time
21:36 MJaoune guys i need irrlicht on my CentOS... yum doesnt find the package, I got CentOS 6.3 and the packages are all updated
21:37 RealBadAngel compile it from sources
21:37 MJaoune I am lazy :D
21:37 MJaoune isnt there any repo to add to YUM?
21:37 kaeza well... un-lazify then
21:37 MJaoune to install it through yum
21:37 RealBadAngel lazy enough to not be able to type "make" and "make install" ? :P
21:38 MJaoune pretty much :D
21:38 kaeza MJaoune, lmgtfy
21:38 RealBadAngel its almost last stage of laziness
21:38 RealBadAngel next one is to smell flowers from bottom only
21:39 jojoa1997 already done
21:40 jojoa1997 i have my mom bring flower bottoms to me :P
21:40 RealBadAngel to smell flowers from bottom means youre burried
21:40 RealBadAngel dead
21:40 RealBadAngel in coffin
21:41 RealBadAngel 6ft under :P
21:41 RealBadAngel and thats fucking laziness ;)
21:42 jojoa1997 PilzAdam how would i change the widths of the double chest to be 9
21:42 * PilzAdam finally parted from -delta
21:42 PilzAdam jojoa1997, already done that
21:42 jojoa1997 what
21:42 jojoa1997 no
21:42 jojoa1997 also
21:42 PilzAdam one
21:42 PilzAdam word
21:42 PilzAdam per
21:42 PilzAdam line
21:42 PilzAdam is
21:42 PilzAdam was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
21:43 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: +if #minetest-dev now. You can't come back without an invite.
21:43 jojoa1997 haha
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21:43 PilzAdam unreadable
21:43 RealBadAngel local inv = meta:get_inventory()
21:43 RealBadAngel inv:set_size("main", 9*4)
21:43 ShadowNinja ^ and might get you kicked ;-)
21:44 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, *minetest-delta
21:44 jojoa1997 ok also um...
21:44 jojoa1997 a regular chest should not be next to a dlarge chest
21:45 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: ?
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21:45 PilzAdam <ShadowNinja> PilzAdam: +if #minetest-dev now. You can't come back without an invite.
21:46 PilzAdam minetest-delta has +i now
21:46 PilzAdam not -dev
21:46 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Yes, that is what I was saying "MODE #minetest-delta +if #minetest-dev"
21:47 ShadowNinja (read forward from -delta to -dev)
21:48 RealBadAngel lol @ PilzAdam
21:48 PilzAdam lol @ @
21:49 MJaoune congratulate me, compiled irrlicht.....
21:50 ShadowNinja Congradulations MJaoune! ;-)
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21:51 RealBadAngel wasnt that hard after all i guess :)
21:52 MJaoune to tell u the truth I am a lazy as*
21:52 RealBadAngel but its better to compile
21:53 RealBadAngel u do so against your architecture and installed libs
21:53 RealBadAngel and makes you more geek as a bonus ;)
21:53 MJaoune compiling is useful when you will get a huge amount of libraries
21:53 MJaoune after compiling
21:53 MJaoune for example
21:54 MJaoune Boost libraries
21:54 MJaoune have you ever compiled those?
21:54 MJaoune took 30 minutes on my quad core CPU
21:54 MJaoune generated 1 GB of libraries
21:54 MJaoune :P
21:54 RealBadAngel i know how it is to compile kernel on 486
21:55 RealBadAngel i used to start compiling, went to pub for a few beers and were right back to see compiling ends
21:56 MJaoune xD
21:56 MJaoune those CPUs never exceeded 300MHz after hard overclocking
21:56 MJaoune or 350 maybe
21:57 RealBadAngel 486? dx80 was the fastest one i think
21:57 RealBadAngel 80mhz
21:58 MJaoune i remember there were faster CPUs in 486's era
21:58 MJaoune i might be mistaken though
21:58 RealBadAngel faster were pentium ones
21:59 RealBadAngel for a long time i had p90
21:59 RealBadAngel *rated
21:59 RealBadAngel originally 75mhz but overclocked
22:00 MJaoune i remember those CPUs never required heatsinks xD
22:00 RealBadAngel i can remember all the stages of x86 architecture
22:01 RealBadAngel learened assembler on 286
22:01 MJaoune i worked with 286 and up
22:01 MJaoune never actually used 8086
22:01 MJaoune the days of Turbo and Borland Assemblers?
22:01 RealBadAngel i used watcom and borland
22:02 MJaoune they were all intel syntax as i remember...?
22:03 RealBadAngel cant remember now, i shifted from Z80
22:03 RealBadAngel and found out x86 pretty the same
22:03 RealBadAngel but with more registers
22:04 RealBadAngel then started to code in c++, watcom was the only one reasonable
22:04 RealBadAngel it came with dos4gw bundled
22:04 PilzAdam oh god
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22:04 PilzAdam jojoa1997 just posted over 500 LOC in PM
22:05 RealBadAngel borland was good enough for "hello worlds" only
22:05 MJaoune heheeh
22:05 MJaoune i remember borland had a graphics library
22:05 MJaoune with it
22:05 RealBadAngel i wrote my own
22:05 MJaoune why do u hate it that much :P
22:05 MJaoune I wrote a graphic library
22:05 MJaoune the libraries written in assembly
22:05 MJaoune binded for c++
22:06 RealBadAngel hehe
22:06 RealBadAngel same here
22:06 MJaoune the era of 486 and under
22:06 RealBadAngel how old are you btw?
22:06 MJaoune were the best times of the computer
22:06 RealBadAngel indeed
22:06 MJaoune i am 18
22:07 RealBadAngel best school for coders
22:07 MJaoune a bit young though :P
22:07 MJaoune how old are u?
22:07 RealBadAngel 18 and you can remember 486? :P
22:08 MJaoune it was still marketed like 10 years ago
22:08 MJaoune used to play on it
22:08 MJaoune had a very old pc
22:08 RealBadAngel rotfl
22:08 RealBadAngel im 40
22:08 MJaoune O.o
22:08 jojoa1997 what would you guys and gals think of adding double chests to minetest or large chests
22:08 jojoa1997 ok PilzAdam here is what is important
22:08 jojoa1997 Shadowninja what is the limit for posts and getting kicked in what time
22:08 jojoa1997 well im 15
22:08 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> maybe you should add double chests to regular minetest
22:08 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> and i think that the idea of a 8*3 chest in minetest is good
22:09 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, i think its a bad idea
22:09 PilzAdam LOOOOOOOOOL
22:09 PilzAdam after the 500 lines of code:
22:09 PilzAdam <jojoa1997> nvm
22:09 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> they are meant to hold items not be a second full inventory
22:09 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> what do you think of that idea?
22:09 PilzAdam NVM!
22:09 jojoa1997 ok
22:09 jojoa1997 also
22:09 PilzAdam you send me 500 lines wich takes over 5 minutes to download
22:09 jojoa1997 io fixed the problem
22:09 RealBadAngel we can resize the inv as much as we want to
22:09 MJaoune RealBadAngel
22:09 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: Just DON'T test it!
22:09 jojoa1997 :)
22:09 PilzAdam and then you say NVM!
22:09 RealBadAngel up to infinite
22:09 jojoa1997 it took me a millisecond to send
22:10 RealBadAngel so what four double nodes for it??
22:10 jojoa1997 let me copy 500000 lines of code to paste here :P
22:10 PilzAdam jojoa1997, IRC throttles it
22:10 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: And post a link to the logs if you want to paste more than one message.
22:10 RealBadAngel *for
22:11 PilzAdam I guess its time for an /ignore jojoa1997 all
22:11 RealBadAngel haha
22:11 MJaoune :P
22:11 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Or +q ;-)
22:11 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, sadly he hasnt posted it in this channel :-(
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22:12 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Posted what?
22:12 RealBadAngel offtopic: has any one tried my branch with bump mapping?
22:12 PilzAdam something that justifys +q
22:12 jojoa1997 am i ignored yet?
22:13 MJaoune anyone here has a Minecraft Premium account? Not to be against Minetest, but I am going to start Minecraft servers and I need operators for them
22:13 jojoa1997 RBA i want to but i need a compiled version
22:13 jojoa1997 um
22:13 jojoa1997 i have a minecraft account and a cracked client and i will have a premium this summer
22:13 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, are you on winlike?
22:13 jojoa1997 would that work?
22:13 jojoa1997 i am on windows 7
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22:14 MJaoune i dont think cracked client can access online servers
22:14 MJaoune unless hamachi was used
22:14 jojoa1997 they can
22:14 MJaoune i am gonna start the server this week
22:14 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, could you make a build for me, plesea?
22:14 jojoa1997 there is a plugin for that
22:14 MJaoune O.o
22:14 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, wut?
22:14 MJaoune really?
22:14 jojoa1997 PilzAdam could you make a buyild please?
22:15 RealBadAngel win build of https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
22:15 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, sure
22:15 jojoa1997 YAY!
22:15 jojoa1997 now i can enjoy bump mapping. Also RBA how wouldi make an image bumpmapped?
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22:16 Uberi RealBadAngel: just wondering, does this work on computers without GLSL as well?
22:16 RealBadAngel Uberi, no way. it requires shaders
22:17 Uberi :(
22:17 RealBadAngel sorry, but thats how it works
22:18 Uberi I'm pretty sure I saw some per-pixel bump mapping with the fix func pipeline too though
22:18 Uberi or maybe it was on another computer
22:18 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, i can link you 2 texture packs with normal maps
22:18 jojoa1997 RBA what do you mean normal maps i want a bumped one
22:18 RealBadAngel but i do have a script (linux only) to make bump maps for any texture pack
22:19 jojoa1997 RBA make a .bat one
22:19 jojoa1997 :)
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22:19 RealBadAngel bump mapping is takin color map (regular image) and normal map (bump map) that represents height to produce output texture
22:20 jojoa1997 you guys want to know how windows commands work?
22:20 jojoa1997 they write a note and tape it to a bats back and then send it away
22:20 RealBadAngel so bump mapping effect requires at least 2 input textures
22:20 Uberi well that is a good way of explaining message passing
22:21 RealBadAngel can also use specular maps
22:21 jojoa1997 oh idea
22:21 jojoa1997 bump map a minetest default pack with minetest faithful pack
22:21 jojoa1997 anyways please send me a link
22:21 RealBadAngel my code calculates specular effect on the fly
22:22 RealBadAngel but untill we have real lighting effect is fixed
22:22 RealBadAngel so textures get depth and shine but at the fixed level
22:24 RealBadAngel this will gonna change soon, cause i want to go further with shaders
22:24 RealBadAngel and make water reflections/refractions. skydome, godrays, shadows and all that stuff
22:25 jojoa1997 flowing leaves?
22:25 RealBadAngel most of the code for those effects i have ready
22:25 RealBadAngel im misssing the lighting just
22:25 jojoa1997 WHAT!?
22:25 jojoa1997 i need your build with all the shaders
22:25 jojoa1997 or a buiuld
22:26 * jojoa1997 calls PilzAdam ^
22:26 RealBadAngel im playin with shaders for almost a month already
22:26 sokomine can't afford shaders on my hardware. if i enable them i wonder why i only get 3 fps or such
22:27 Uberi sokomine: at least your comp has shaders in the first place :P
22:27 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/kcsI7wN.jpg
22:27 RealBadAngel sokomine, good to see you
22:27 sokomine hm :-) i just have to disable them because it gets so slow with them
22:27 sokomine hi rba
22:28 RealBadAngel wait for a screenshot
22:28 sokomine ok
22:28 sokomine i was building in recent time on some servers and did some mindless mining as well
22:28 RealBadAngel sokomine, http://i.imgur.com/KGfWbJW.jpg
22:30 Uberi oh snap RealBadAngel
22:30 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, can you link me your heaven TP?
22:30 Uberi I got drool all over my mousepad
22:31 RealBadAngel a sec
22:31 PilzAdam (to test the shaders)
22:31 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenTP/archive/master.zip
22:32 RealBadAngel or https://github.com/RealBadAngel/sphax256/archive/master.zip
22:32 RealBadAngel second is Sphax's texture pack, also with normal maps
22:32 sokomine rba: my houses?
22:33 RealBadAngel yup, on VanessaE server
22:33 RealBadAngel bumpmapped ;)
22:33 sokomine ah :-) recognized it although it looks very diffrent from normal texture pack. but not bad
22:34 RealBadAngel both texture packs on screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/Eq09o#0
22:34 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel the bump mapping and all your other shaders should be added to default
22:35 jojoa1997 RBA could you post a link of the image by itself
22:35 RealBadAngel with time and when theyre perfect they will
22:35 RealBadAngel its an album of screenshots
22:35 jojoa1997 like imigaer.com/image.png
22:35 jojoa1997 oh :/
22:36 jojoa1997 anyways Dominoes bread bowl is here YAY!
22:36 * jojoa1997 nom nom nom
22:36 sokomine some textures may be a bit off if they give a building a completely diffrent appearance. in this case it works i think (although those kind of buildings are more reddish and do not have yellowish bricks like in the screenshot - those yellowish bricks look more like "klinker" (don't know the english term)
22:36 jojoa1997 lighter?
22:37 RealBadAngel i know what klinker means
22:37 jojoa1997 to google translate
22:37 RealBadAngel and i like it this way :)
22:37 jojoa1997 what does klinker mean?
22:38 sokomine :-) it does look fine. it's just another type of brick. might be intresting to have them in the game as well to build with :-)
22:38 RealBadAngel a brick surface, polished and politured
22:38 * sokomine nods
22:38 jojoa1997 ok
22:38 jojoa1997 i like brick houses
22:38 jojoa1997 the are better than the plaster wall houses in my neighborhood
22:39 jojoa1997 i am lucky i moved into another brick house...adds character
22:39 sokomine it is an (expensive) "outer shell" for houses. the brick-like klinker stones last far longer than e.g. paint. it is especially common on houses of the bungalow type (=one-story high)
22:39 RealBadAngel and have "the look"
22:39 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, it seems to not work for me
22:39 jojoa1997 can you post a picture of "the look"
22:39 jojoa1997 ?
22:40 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, symptoms?
22:40 PilzAdam no difference visible
22:40 RealBadAngel shaders on?
22:40 PilzAdam yep
22:40 PilzAdam and: 00:38:24: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Invalid  modification: "[forcesingle_normal.png"
22:40 RealBadAngel that a flaw, im aware of it
22:41 RealBadAngel but good, i know my code is workin :)
22:41 jojoa1997 http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/bobkeenan/bobkeenan0905/bobkeenan090500005/4772863-a-red-and-dark-brown-brick-wall-on-a-80-year-old-house-with-klinker-bricks.jpg
22:41 jojoa1997 that klinker
22:41 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, can you make a screenshot of actual view?
22:42 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, http://republika.pl/skrzeczd/zdjecia%20klinkieru%20021.jpg
22:42 RealBadAngel thats a house with kliker bricks
22:42 RealBadAngel *klinker
22:43 RealBadAngel http://www.klinkierdom.pl/galerie/klinkier-reczny/20.jpg
22:44 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, well, there is a tiny difference but it doesnt really look good
22:45 RealBadAngel i know youre 16x guy ;)
22:45 * jojoa1997 likes good old handmade bricks better
22:45 jojoa1997 like on my house :P
22:45 RealBadAngel post the screenshot so i will be able to say its workin or not please
22:46 RealBadAngel because "difference" imho is not TINY at all
22:46 PilzAdam https://www.dropbox.com/s/km840e0rgud84py/Shader.png
22:46 PilzAdam the one with shaders disables looks better
22:47 RealBadAngel that is exactly how it should look like
22:47 PilzAdam if you walk arround and dont pay attention to single textures then the difference is tiny
22:48 RealBadAngel ofc
22:48 RealBadAngel after playin a bit you stop notice a difference and get used to it
22:49 RealBadAngel you notice that when switchin it on and off
22:49 jojoa1997 DINNER! CYA
22:49 RealBadAngel after a while playing with bump maps and switchin back you find whole world enormously flat ;)
22:50 RealBadAngel which makes you dizzy for a while
22:50 jojoa1997 i am allowed to do away messages in #minetest so haha pilzadam
22:50 * jojoa1997 is away: Dinner!
22:54 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91515#p91515
22:54 PilzAdam also new regular win build
22:55 RealBadAngel thx PilzAdam
22:55 RealBadAngel try the other pack
22:55 Exio what script do you use for generating the stuff-map?
22:55 RealBadAngel its not so realistic as mine, its more cartoonish
22:56 PilzAdam cartoon is good
22:56 Exio ^ i think the same
22:56 * PilzAdam likes MineToon
22:56 PilzAdam I think its the best not-default TP
22:56 Exio very realistic tps with a blocky worlds are... weird ;P
22:56 RealBadAngel sphax is way better
22:58 RealBadAngel Exio, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/HavenTP/blob/master/textures/normals.sh
22:58 RealBadAngel its uploaded together with tp itself
22:58 NakedFury Exio I agree with you
22:58 NakedFury dont like realistics at all
22:58 RealBadAngel copy the script to your texture pack folder and run it
22:59 RealBadAngel but imho each surface need final touch and different settings to get best look
23:00 RealBadAngel but it works quite ok for cartoonish like texture packs
23:00 RealBadAngel ie large areas of same colour
23:01 RealBadAngel note: you need gimp with normalmap plugin installed tho
23:01 RealBadAngel so check your repos for it
23:02 Exio normalmap installed?
23:02 Exio gimp-plugin-registry - repository of optional extensions for GIMP ?
23:02 RealBadAngel thats needed too
23:02 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, also with sphax, its not much difference if you dont look extremly close and compare it directly with a screenshot without it
23:03 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, youre kidding atm
23:04 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/RaiGTJu.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/ezj6IG1.png
23:04 PilzAdam ehm, I cant see water with shaders disabled
23:04 RealBadAngel open those 2 pictures in browser and switch them
23:05 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> RealBadAngel, [...] its not much difference if you dont [...] compare it directly with a screenshot without it
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23:06 PilzAdam sure, it does look good
23:06 PilzAdam but its not an extremly uber epic mega graphic effect
23:06 RealBadAngel that is how your eyes and brain is workin
23:07 PilzAdam the whole thing is mabe 15% better
23:07 RealBadAngel when you cannot compare it you think almost nothin has changed
23:07 RealBadAngel wait for real lights
23:07 RealBadAngel effect will be way better
23:08 Exio i think RBA doesn't want to make it a uber-supa-epic-graphic-effect for not converting the mt world in something more "non-cubic" ;P
23:08 PilzAdam yea, I saw these MC videos
23:08 RealBadAngel because depth will vary and also light reflections
23:08 RealBadAngel Exio, i want to make shaders that will make Sonic's one for MC cry out loud
23:09 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, I cant see water with sphax TP and shaders disabled
23:09 PilzAdam why?
23:09 Exio if you make them, just add lots of option
23:09 Exio so you can still use some cool effects, without having to reduce your FPSs from 300 to 3
23:10 RealBadAngel propably i copied there my water shader code
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23:10 RealBadAngel Exio, i do have rather old PC, 1.8Ghz, 4gb of ram, HD 4670
23:11 RealBadAngel with all the shaders on, 128x textures i do have 40+ fps
23:11 Exio try mc with glsl shaders and sonic
23:11 RealBadAngel i did
23:11 RealBadAngel slideshow
23:11 RealBadAngel thx to java
23:11 Exio how many FPS?
23:11 Exio half?
23:11 Exio ;P
23:11 RealBadAngel not exceedin 10
23:12 RealBadAngel but we do have c++ core
23:13 RealBadAngel and we are fuckin faster than jebs
23:13 * jojoa1997 is back (gone 00:22:57)
23:13 Exio can you disable those messages?
23:14 Exio as they are already annoying, useless and just random crap to the channel?
23:14 jojoa1997 why i am saying dont bother me ans
23:14 jojoa1997 and
23:14 jojoa1997 when talking on pm they tell the user that i am busy
23:15 Exio it is useless, if someone wants to pm you s/he will do a whois before, or check if you are away
23:15 RealBadAngel Exio, anyways shaders will be always an option.
23:15 jojoa1997 or
23:15 jojoa1997 they wont
23:16 Exio RealBadAngel: i'd like some basic shaders
23:16 jojoa1997 unless stated in the rules i have a right to be able to do it
23:16 Exio but making them like "RE" would be pretty nice
23:16 jojoa1997 what is RE
23:16 Exio "Shaders" "[x] Reflection" "[x] Reflaction" ... etc
23:16 Exio redeclipse
23:16 RealBadAngel yeah, thats the way it will be done
23:16 jojoa1997 oh yeah individual shaders options are nice
23:17 Exio RealBadAngel: small query for posting a link? ;P
23:17 RealBadAngel to what?
23:17 Exio i want to give you a link to a shader so you can see it
23:18 RealBadAngel ah, sure
23:20 jojoa1997 tell me if you see the away thing. i am testing a new pref
23:20 jojoa1997 yay
23:38 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0 mind = blown
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