| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
honestly if it looks awful out of the box im not interested lol |
| 00:00 |
GhostlyDeath |
What is the crafting for mesa, gold, and copper? |
| 00:00 |
Sketch2 |
"twm??" |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
ahhh, thats better, awn ram usage: 0.42% |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
better than 50% lol |
| 00:00 |
Exio |
i'm using 1400/4000 atm :P |
| 00:01 |
Kacey |
hi Menche |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
hi |
| 00:02 |
Sketch2 |
if it means "tiny window manager," I'd have to agree. fewer resources eaten up is good |
| 00:02 |
Kacey |
i think i am banned on your server |
| 00:02 |
Menche |
you're not in the ipban.txt |
| 00:02 |
Kacey |
i cant connect |
| 00:02 |
Exio |
Sketch2: tilling |
| 00:02 |
Exio |
dwm, i3, awesome, ??, etc |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
twm isn't tiling |
| 00:03 |
Exio |
for saying a few ones |
| 00:03 |
Sketch2 |
oh, so it can overlap windows and multitask |
| 00:03 |
Exio |
i didn't mean twm as wm, i meant twm as tilling window manager :P |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
ok |
| 00:03 |
tripod |
i like monsterwm and xmonad |
| 00:04 |
tripod |
aweosme used to be good because too bloated imo |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
i use i3 |
| 00:05 |
* Hwkiller |
uses spectrwm |
| 00:05 |
Hwkiller |
formerly scrotwm |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
Kacey: the server had crashed, try again |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
whoa griefing |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
where? |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
the mall, it's horrible |
| 00:06 |
Sketch2 |
have XFCE on the laptop and the P4. Gnome classic on the Dual-core |
| 00:07 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #92 from khonkhortisan/lazypull c08e868be2 2013-04-07T17:05:39-07:00 http://git.io/b4RPHw |
| 00:08 |
Hwkiller |
man, I love that feeling when you've been digging down for so long then finally come across a cave |
| 00:09 |
Sketch2 |
yeah, some of the deep caves are enormous |
| 00:10 |
Hwkiller |
indeed; I just found a giant one |
| 00:11 |
Hwkiller |
are deeper caves larger? |
| 00:11 |
Sketch2 |
some of 'em seem to be |
| 00:11 |
Hwkiller |
I wonder how many caves there tend to be per area |
| 00:11 |
telek |
So where's the dark elf and underdark mods? :D |
| 00:12 |
Sketch2 |
you mean like elf looking skins? |
| 00:12 |
GhostlyDeath |
Can mese be smelted? |
| 00:13 |
Exio |
into mesecons |
| 00:15 |
GhostlyDeath |
heheheh |
| 00:15 |
GhostlyDeath |
I got mese blocks now |
| 00:15 |
GhostlyDeath |
since I found like 200 mese crystals |
| 00:15 |
Hwkiller |
are fragments useful? |
| 00:15 |
GhostlyDeath |
I made 14 mese blocks |
| 00:16 |
GhostlyDeath |
I got useless mese crystals |
| 00:16 |
GhostlyDeath |
crystal fragment |
| 00:16 |
GhostlyDeath |
oh well |
| 00:17 |
GhostlyDeath |
mese pick axe is nice |
| 00:17 |
Hwkiller |
so crystals -> blocks? |
| 00:19 |
Sketch2 |
RealBadAngel, got your LuaJIT enabled minetest to compile run on laptop. bootup is almost instant |
| 00:20 |
GhostlyDeath |
yes |
| 00:20 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
| 00:20 |
Sketch2 |
well, then again, that was just minimal, no mods enabled, so that might not mean much. just seemed fast compared to what I'm used to |
| 00:20 |
GhostlyDeath |
and blocks -> crystals |
| 00:20 |
GhostlyDeath |
crystals make tools |
| 00:21 |
RealBadAngel |
Sketch2, more complex mods, and more of them you will feel greater difference |
| 00:21 |
telek |
How does rollback work? |
| 00:21 |
Sketch2 |
cool. will have to try it out on desktop when it's completed it's VirtualBox thing |
| 00:22 |
telek |
Oh nevermind I don't have a log for it. |
| 00:22 |
Hwkiller |
hm, my carts keep duplicating themselves |
| 00:22 |
Hwkiller |
lol |
| 00:22 |
Hwkiller |
I started with 1 cart; I have 7 now |
| 00:23 |
Exio |
i think that is a good answer of why they aren't in default, no? |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
isn't minetest great at handling entities? :) |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
if you leave that mapblock, they disappear and come back later randomly |
| 00:29 |
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| 00:29 |
sokomine |
entities are strange, yes |
| 00:30 |
telek |
Dirt nodes are considered combustable by the fire mod? |
| 00:32 |
khonkhortisan |
that seems like a bad thing |
| 00:33 |
khonkhortisan |
Dig under the grass, burn the dirt layer under it, have a very large sinkhole |
| 00:34 |
khonkhortisan |
I had carts suddenly reverse direction at multiple places along a long powered rail |
| 00:44 |
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| 00:44 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSueEm2Cw28 woah. |
| 00:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82386#p82386 |
| 00:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Can anyone help |
| 00:46 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, you know - this blows. |
| 00:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
VirtualBox is running at 0% |
| 00:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
I've been sitting here waiting on this stupid thing for 2 hrs |
| 00:47 |
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| 00:48 |
Doyousketch2 |
meh. yeah, I got a few mins. what is it jojoa? |
| 00:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Could you compile minetest for android |
| 00:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I really want tro test it |
| 00:48 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, well, I might be able to point them in the right direction |
| 00:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Sfan5 has done it but won't even try to run minetest |
| 00:50 |
telek |
Interact and build privs: Do both actually work or is interact still tied to building? |
| 00:52 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Anyone else have an android |
| 00:53 |
telek |
Hey what mod is the fire in? |
| 00:53 |
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| 00:54 |
telek |
.... |
| 00:54 |
telek |
The fire mod is part of minetest_game now? |
| 00:54 |
telek |
Ugh |
| 00:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
No it is fire in commons |
| 00:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
They need to document how to change the mods in defaulr |
| 00:55 |
telek |
No kidding |
| 00:56 |
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| 00:56 |
telek |
It eats dirt squares. |
| 00:56 |
Menche |
in game.conf |
| 00:56 |
telek |
I just lost the ground under all my buildings. |
| 00:56 |
telek |
So now I've got some 1 block high hovering buildings thanks to that. |
| 00:56 |
telek |
Plus lots of other nodes that should've been combustable but since they were in mods, aren't. |
| 00:57 |
telek |
Can you override internal mods with mods in the worldmods dir? |
| 00:57 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah, I've got an Anroid tablet I was gonna let my kid play minetest on if I could convert it over |
| 01:00 |
Exio |
jojoa1997|Tablet: compiling stuff for android is not just "make" or anything |
| 01:01 |
Exio |
jojoa1997|Tablet: having stuff working for other arch is a PITA, if it even works out-of-the-box, what will not happen |
| 01:01 |
Doyousketch2 |
right. you have to rewrite all the cmake files so they point to stand-alone copies that have to be open for all OS's to read |
| 01:01 |
Exio |
no that |
| 01:02 |
Doyousketch2 |
stand alone copies of the libraries I mean. the dependancies |
| 01:02 |
Doyousketch2 |
they can't be OS dependant |
| 01:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What I am saying is |
| 01:02 |
Exio |
the code it self isn't "prepared" for a touch-like interface |
| 01:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
He won't even try minetest just to try it. Also he made his examples and those cpoukd be coded wrong |
| 01:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I know but |
| 01:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
First step is to get it working |
| 01:03 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, well you can plug in a mouse and a keyboard. I do it on my ViewSonic Gtablet |
| 01:03 |
Exio |
do you even think those examples will not work but a GAME will work? |
| 01:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Also I can test movement working since I have a keyboard |
| 01:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Bluetooth one |
| 01:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://sfan5.dyndns.org/IrrlichtExample01-debug.apk |
| 01:03 |
Exio |
do they work? |
| 01:05 |
Doyousketch2 |
Unable to connect. Iceweasel can't establish a connection to the server at sfan5.dyndns.org. |
| 01:05 |
Menche |
got that too |
| 01:13 |
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| 01:13 |
Doc22 |
hey |
| 01:13 |
Doyousketch2 |
I'm sure it's do-able, and if there's an easy way to do it, I'd be on it |
| 01:13 |
Doc22 |
howsitgoin |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
Doc22: of what? |
| 01:15 |
Doc22 |
just in general |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
compiling a pc game to android? |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
err, Doyousketch2 * |
| 01:15 |
Doyousketch2 |
yea |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
sorry doc22 :P |
| 01:15 |
Doc22 |
lol ok |
| 01:15 |
Doc22 |
np |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
and hi |
| 01:15 |
Doc22 |
hi |
| 01:15 |
Doc22 |
soo bored |
| 01:16 |
Kacey |
back |
| 01:16 |
Doc22 |
hey kacey |
| 01:16 |
Doc22 |
:D |
| 01:16 |
Doc22 |
long time no see |
| 01:17 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 01:17 |
Doyousketch2 |
discovered where I screwed up in VirtualBox. aparently there's a checkbox for LiveCD that I didn't tick |
| 01:17 |
Doc22 |
how are ya |
| 01:17 |
Kacey |
in lots of trouble recently |
| 01:17 |
Kacey |
got a new laptop |
| 01:17 |
Doc22 |
what kind? |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
that sounds nice |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
what kind is it |
| 01:18 |
Kacey |
asus |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
nice |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
the only laptop i have is a 300$ mini laptop |
| 01:18 |
Kacey |
i like my old acer netbook though |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
so why are you in trouble and what are the restriction |
| 01:18 |
Doc22 |
yeah i wouldnt know i dont have any acers |
| 01:19 |
Kacey |
a little aspire one |
| 01:19 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 01:19 |
Doc22 |
am i asking too much? |
| 01:19 |
Doyousketch2 |
I had a friend who had 4 Acers. I tweaked 'em out. they did ok. |
| 01:19 |
Kacey |
but this one is huge compared to the netbook |
| 01:20 |
Kacey |
but the mouse is tiny |
| 01:20 |
Doc22 |
ill take that as yes... |
| 01:20 |
Kacey |
haha my lag graph thing is bouncing to the beat of this song |
| 01:21 |
Doyousketch2 |
lag graph on what? |
| 01:21 |
Kacey |
XChat |
| 01:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
oh, I dunno how to pull that up. maybe it's not on this one |
| 01:22 |
Kacey |
Scatman scatting drives it mad |
| 01:22 |
Doc22 |
.lol |
| 01:22 |
Doc22 |
heh |
| 01:22 |
Kacey |
view - network meters - graph |
| 01:22 |
Kacey |
it appears under the userlist |
| 01:22 |
Doyousketch2 |
ah, ok |
| 01:23 |
Doyousketch2 |
might have to pull the source-code apart and see if we can put that into minetest |
| 01:24 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add param2 field for ores, some minor fixes and misc. code cleanup 7c0e707cf1 2013-04-07T18:21:54-07:00 http://git.io/ZbH2hQ |
| 01:24 |
Kacey |
hmmmm, lol more params? |
| 01:26 |
Doyousketch2 |
we need some parameters for slippery. so you slide down rooftops |
| 01:27 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 01:27 |
Doyousketch2 |
you like that one, don't-cha? |
| 01:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: it is for infinite springs with finite liquid |
| 01:28 |
Doyousketch2 |
we'll make some playgrounds with real working swingsets and slides |
| 01:28 |
ShadowNinja |
that would be great |
| 01:29 |
Doyousketch2 |
and a parameter for rotation, so we can put in a merry-go-round |
| 01:30 |
bas080 |
i was wondering. when are you considered a contributor worthy of the minetest contributor section? |
| 01:30 |
ShadowNinja |
A commit within the last 6 months |
| 01:30 |
Doyousketch2 |
you gotta jump through hoops and learn some stupid Git thing |
| 01:30 |
bas080 |
a commit to what? |
| 01:30 |
bas080 |
The core? |
| 01:31 |
ShadowNinja |
minetest engine |
| 01:31 |
mauvebic |
ill cheer when they come up with git UI that doesnt require learning curve lol |
| 01:31 |
mauvebic |
even the dumbest picture sites have simple drag'n'drop |
| 01:32 |
bas080 |
so no C++ no contributor? |
| 01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
like git-cola or gitk? |
| 01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
you can also contribute to builtin |
| 01:33 |
mauvebic |
git-cola gitk? first i hear of either of these |
| 01:33 |
Doyousketch2 |
think they make a blue pill that's called git-it-up |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 01:34 |
bas080 |
I'm sure my ideas implemented in mods of mine have sparked implementations to the builtin or atleast accelerated the process. |
| 01:34 |
Menche |
or qgit |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
lemme write these down |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
done |
| 01:35 |
Menche |
on my system, gitk comes with git |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
there is a git UI it is for windows |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
i use it |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
well ive bitched about github a dozen times but no one ever mentionned there were simpler alternatives out there lol |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
just told me to suck it up and learn it lol |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
at which point i said github can suck it |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 01:35 |
Doyousketch2 |
CodeLite has Git integration as well |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
sounds like an IDE |
| 01:36 |
Doc22 |
loo |
| 01:36 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 01:36 |
Doyousketch2 |
it is. does alright |
| 01:36 |
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| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
not crazy about IDE's |
| 01:36 |
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| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
takes more resources than a blueray movie lol |
| 01:36 |
ShadowNinja |
vim :-) |
| 01:36 |
Doyousketch2 |
huh, didn't have that prob with this one |
| 01:36 |
* Menche |
uses vim |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
i tried eclipse once |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
then i had it taken behind the chemical shed and shot |
| 01:37 |
ShadowNinja |
me too, works but it is very heavy |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
and the whole concept of apps running in little virtual boxes soured me on android dev |
| 01:38 |
Doyousketch2 |
hunger is setting in. |
| 01:38 |
ShadowNinja |
I don't develop for android because it uses java |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
that too |
| 01:39 |
ShadowNinja |
the hello world example is like 20 lines |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
besides, theres nothing that hasn't been done at this point |
| 01:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
lols. I miss the days of the Commodore64. you could code that in like 20 characters |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
wasting my time on iOS with their strict guidelines was a no-go either |
| 01:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
10 Print "Hello World" |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
almost sounds like basic |
| 01:40 |
Doyousketch2 |
lols yea it is |
| 01:41 |
mauvebic |
no wonder i recognized it lol |
| 01:42 |
mauvebic |
BEEP command lol |
| 01:42 |
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| 01:42 |
Doyousketch2 |
friggin' sonofa grrr |
| 01:42 |
JesseH |
I think the time has come...to REALLY get into minetest |
| 01:42 |
Doyousketch2 |
stupid VirtualBox crashed after install |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
yeah thats always oodles of fun to setup lol |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
and everyone's gone virtualbox-crazy this year lol |
| 01:43 |
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* JesseH |
needs a good non-laggy server to play on |
| 01:45 |
MichaelEh |
Hmm.. Vanessa's is good but I've tried to log on now with no luck. |
| 01:45 |
JesseH |
preferably with not a lot of people also |
| 01:45 |
telek |
Players can end up upside down? |
| 01:45 |
MichaelEh |
what you planning to build? |
| 01:46 |
VanessaE |
MichaelEh: my server is down temporarily while I sort out a problem with moretrees. |
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| 01:46 |
JesseH |
MichaelEh, first to learn about the game, play a little, then start working on a mod |
| 01:46 |
MichaelEh |
local mode? |
| 01:46 |
Dopium |
Hi can anyone help me log into minetest.net it keeps saying it thinks im a bot |
| 01:46 |
JesseH |
Well, theres a reason I want to play with other people |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
weird, the real bots get through lol |
| 01:47 |
MichaelEh |
I ususally use local mode to work out some design details |
| 01:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
I kinda hate VirtualBox. it's slow, but I'm hoping to start up Debian Wheezy, then put on the ClusterDebian package, minetest, plus all the dependancies |
| 01:47 |
Doyousketch2 |
and make it into a Live disk that anyone can try out |
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| 01:47 |
Dopium |
Tried change my pasword and deleted cookies ect but still does it |
| 01:47 |
MichaelEh |
vanessa's server down but it is the best... redcrab. Avoid gameboom since it's gone PvP survival |
| 01:48 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: did you see my post about my bot? |
| 01:48 |
telek |
Doyousketch2: VB supposedly still beats the alternatives unless you have good vt/kvm support. |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: yeah, sorry I was busy |
| 01:48 |
telek |
VanessaE: Did you know the fire mod eats dirt too? :D |
| 01:48 |
MichaelEh |
finally got One's Cathedra file to work. |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
telek: good thing I don't use it :) |
| 01:49 |
ShadowNinja |
well you can also have it join if MinetestBot leaves with !join #minetest |
| 01:49 |
telek |
VanessaE: You use the minimal mod? |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 01:49 |
sokomine |
cathedra file? |
| 01:49 |
telek |
Just manually disable it then? |
| 01:49 |
MichaelEh |
One's Cathedra from the late gameboom map |
| 01:49 |
Menche |
One's Cathedral? I remember seeing a building called that on some old server |
| 01:49 |
Menche |
oh, it was gameboo |
| 01:49 |
Menche |
m |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
sweet, one more ship left to go |
| 01:50 |
ShadowNinja |
if someone feels like coding something now a config option to disable fire would be nice, I can't code atm |
| 01:50 |
Dopium |
No one knows why it says im a bot? I dont even know what bots do.... |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
remove the fire mod |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
or disable all the abm's if you want fireplaces |
| 01:50 |
MichaelEh |
had to work from old pics but the real problem was worldedit didn't like saving it whole |
| 01:50 |
Menche |
delete it from the game.conf |
| 01:51 |
Menche |
then it won't be loaded |
| 01:51 |
MichaelEh |
campfire sheds no light. |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
so use fire w/o the abms |
| 01:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Menche:I know, but a config option would be nice for easy upgrades |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
g'luck, took two weeks to get an option for legacy fly mode :p |
| 01:52 |
Dopium |
wtf |
| 01:53 |
MichaelEh |
Actually I was going to suggest VanessaE that somehow leaves from MoreTrees can be used to make rope and plastic. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
rope I don't know about, but leaves -> plastic would be easy enough to code. I'll do that later after I sort this out. |
| 01:53 |
MichaelEh |
Can it be alias to just generic leaves? |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
it just needs a one line change to homedecor |
| 01:54 |
MichaelEh |
silver_ingot works in locked chests. |
| 01:54 |
Doyousketch2 |
ShadowNinja, if you really need it, I'll make a note of it and see if I can code one in tonight or tomorrow morning. |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
is it like real rope or more squareish looking? |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
cuz my boats could use some |
| 01:54 |
MichaelEh |
moreblocks has rope |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
yeah but what does it look like? |
| 01:54 |
MichaelEh |
just a cheap version of the ladder |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
boats have ropes that curve |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
not up and down |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
or side to side |
| 01:55 |
bas080 |
This isn't a playground? :( |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
? |
| 01:56 |
ShadowNinja |
Doyousketch2: that would be great |
| 01:56 |
mauvebic |
real rope would prolly require node-specific fizziks |
| 01:57 |
bas080 |
and the reverse of a falling node |
| 01:57 |
bas080 |
not exactly yhe reverse. |
| 01:57 |
MichaelEh |
Thinking of hacking locked_signs to include MoreOres materials to make plaques. Including a clear sign. |
| 01:57 |
bas080 |
and you have to be able to keep standing on it. |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
http://ifunny.mobi/#R3mT6ieQ |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
well, ropes have tension, ropes can be tied around things to pull them, etc. |
| 01:58 |
mauvebic |
none of it easy to do right now |
| 01:58 |
bas080 |
defibrillator |
| 01:59 |
bas080 |
Billy... Take Me to The River fish |
| 01:59 |
MichaelEh |
MoreBlocks rope is simply a ladder with different texture. |
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bas080 |
and a whoopie cushin |
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MichaelEh |
Farming/farming_plus has string which could be used for that |
| 02:00 |
Kacey |
night all |
| 02:00 |
bas080 |
Making a platform that can be pulled upwards might be able to do |
| 02:01 |
MichaelEh |
So much that can be done... not enough time which might add more bloat than use |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
main problem right now seems to be overbloat lol |
| 02:01 |
Doyousketch2 |
you know, I wish there was a simple version file in every download of minetest. |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
what do you mean? |
| 02:02 |
MichaelEh |
What about mesecons moveblock? |
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MinetestBot |
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| 02:02 |
bas080 |
vertical moveblocks have not been done? |
| 02:02 |
Doyousketch2 |
like version.txt and it simply says "minetest 0.4.6" inside it |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
oh that |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
yeah it used to contain a date with it too |
| 02:02 |
MichaelEh |
nite all |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
was practical for knowing exactly which git we were running |
| 02:03 |
MichaelEh |
QUIT |
| 02:03 |
MichaelEh |
ack |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
nite |
| 02:03 |
Doyousketch2 |
yeah. I've got like 8 minetest dirs, and it sux having to bounce between 'em all |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
you dont wanna see my desktop with all the folder compiles lol |
| 02:03 |
MichaelEh |
what is the command to quit here? |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
though if i didnt do that, i would have borked my map |
| 02:04 |
Doyousketch2 |
Alt-F4 |
| 02:04 |
mauvebic |
the little X in the corner? |
| 02:04 |
Menche |
quit the channel? /part #minetest quit message |
| 02:04 |
MichaelEh |
thanks |
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Doyousketch2 |
used to use that as a prank to people in chats. Tap Alt-F4 to become Admin! |
| 02:05 |
Doyousketch2 |
would laugh when half the room would disappear |
| 02:05 |
mauvebic |
rm rf / lol |
| 02:06 |
Menche |
maybe i should have put "quit message" in parentheses or brackets, he must have thought it was part of the cmd |
| 02:09 |
mauvebic |
shit me, the ocean liner spawned 1 node away from the sea wall lol |
| 02:15 |
telek |
mauvebic: Did you name it the Costa Concordia? :D |
| 02:15 |
mauvebic |
naw not interested in modern boats |
| 02:16 |
mauvebic |
im talking white star, cunard, uboats, battleships lol |
| 02:16 |
sokomine |
ah, a white star. fine |
| 02:16 |
telek |
=p Well Titanic would be a fine name as well :D |
| 02:16 |
mauvebic |
that one's nearly done on the exterior |
| 02:17 |
tripod |
anyone see the colombia minecraft vid |
| 02:17 |
tripod |
or w/e it was |
| 02:17 |
tripod |
based on bioshock infinite |
| 02:17 |
tripod |
was badass |
| 02:18 |
mauvebic |
dun ring any bells :/ |
| 02:19 |
mauvebic |
i stopped watching MC vids when my last map became a mish-mash of styles lol |
| 02:19 |
sokomine |
of what kind of styles? |
| 02:20 |
mauvebic |
all of them lol |
| 02:20 |
sokomine |
ah :-) |
| 02:21 |
mauvebic |
new map has an area for city, an area for spaceships, and a docklands area |
| 02:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
this http://i.imgur.com/aP4HU4T.png |
| 02:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
or this http://i.imgur.com/zmYb53c.png |
| 02:25 |
mauvebic |
the first |
| 02:26 |
mauvebic |
seconds' not easy on ye olde eyes |
| 02:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
as much as I thought |
| 02:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
now the first or this http://i.imgur.com/IQTl1WX.png |
| 02:28 |
mauvebic |
still have to say 1st |
| 02:28 |
mauvebic |
though, im on an LED-backlight screen, might not look the same on ACL or CRT |
| 02:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Normal bricks look rather dull |
| 02:30 |
mauvebic |
ive never seen normal bricks that look the the default ones tho |
| 02:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yeah exactly, they look almost, purple |
| 02:33 |
mauvebic |
default ones should be brown |
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jordan4ibanez |
I think they should be red |
| 02:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
any thing but purple though |
| 02:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
even tan |
| 02:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wonder if I can make terrain generation through lua with singlenode generation lol |
| 02:37 |
Doc22 |
something that I think would be cool is random structures such as castles and dungeons, mine shafts, etc |
| 02:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
sokomine, what mod spawned villages? |
| 02:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
or houses |
| 02:38 |
Menche |
villages? |
| 02:39 |
Menche |
villages mod spawned extremely rare houses and watchtowers |
| 02:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
no we were talking about a mod that spawned houses a couple days ago or so, and sokomine brought a mod up |
| 02:41 |
mauvebic |
sokomines and cornernote's |
| 02:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
can you link them? |
| 02:41 |
mauvebic |
dont have the links but theyre on the forums |
| 02:43 |
mauvebic |
though, last i heard sokomine was having trouble w/ world edit and buildings not spawning whole |
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| 03:01 |
Doc22 |
i am stumped about how the code generates trees across into ungenerated chunks |
| 03:02 |
Doc22 |
wouldnt it just give the error for unloaded chunk when you generated a leaf into the unloaded/generated chunk? |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
and if it loaded the chunks it generated into |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
it wold spark infinite loop |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
because trees would just go everywhere |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
tree generates chunk a and b |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
which loads b |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
which loads c |
| 03:04 |
Doc22 |
which loads d |
| 03:04 |
Doc22 |
how does the engine handle that |
| 03:05 |
Doc22 |
VanessaE, what class in the source handles setting blocks in chunks |
| 03:05 |
Doc22 |
like returning the error if a chunk isnt loaded |
| 03:05 |
Doc22 |
I have been struggling with this concept ever since i understood procedural terrain generation |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
dunno, I always look for "ignore" when I am about to set a node that may be in unloaded space |
| 03:06 |
Doc22 |
so how do you handle that, like wouldnt it cut off trees |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
but if you're using on_generated(), theoretically you will never actually get an unloaded chunk |
| 03:06 |
Doc22 |
part of it |
| 03:06 |
Doc22 |
i dont understand... |
| 03:06 |
Doc22 |
what if it generates a tree on the edge of a generated chunk |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
oh that, hmmmm will have to explain, I'm still a little fuzzy on it. |
| 03:07 |
Doc22 |
couldnt the chunk next to it be unloaded? |
| 03:07 |
Doc22 |
and for things like buildings |
| 03:07 |
Doc22 |
if you walked to it |
| 03:07 |
Doc22 |
and then it loads and generates into a previously generated chunk |
| 03:08 |
hmmmm |
the client makes a blank block full of CONTENT_IGNORE if it doesn't exist and it still hadn't gotten that block from the server |
| 03:08 |
Doc22 |
so wouldnt that chop off part of the tree |
| 03:08 |
Doc22 |
because it never gets set |
| 03:09 |
hmmmm |
when a chunk of map gets generated, a border of blocks that isn't to be generated is also included |
| 03:09 |
hmmmm |
so when chunksize is 5, it actually grabs a (5 + 2)^3 cube of mapblocks but only generates the center 5*5*5 |
| 03:09 |
Doc22 |
so it loads some of the blocks around it |
| 03:09 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
so loads em but doesnt generate em? |
| 03:10 |
hmmmm |
we count on discretely placed structures never extending more than 16 nodes outside of the edge of the chunk being generated |
| 03:10 |
hmmmm |
right |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
i see that |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
helps a lot :) |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
thank |
| 03:10 |
Doc22 |
you |
| 03:11 |
bas080 |
ShadowNinja, if it is required to get merged in order to be in the minetest credits. How come VanessaE is in the credits? |
| 03:14 |
Doc22 |
so, theoretically, if you had a larger structure that had to be generated inside a chunk, you could increase the size of the border around the chunk? |
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JesseH |
What are some cool mods |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
technic |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
pilzadam's farming mod |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
my farming mod |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
vanessae's pipeworks mod |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
vines and ropes |
| 03:28 |
JesseH |
I was thinking of working on a farming mod, or a gun mod |
| 03:28 |
Doc22 |
got ideas? |
| 03:29 |
JesseH |
The farming mod, would be semi realistic Marijuana farming |
| 03:29 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
fwiw, my server is back up and running again. |
| 03:29 |
JesseH |
gun mod? Haven't thought on it much |
| 03:29 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:29 |
Doc22 |
i dont know much about entity |
| 03:29 |
JesseH |
well, creating an actual bullet entity that traveled fast would be a waste of speed |
| 03:29 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
someone, i believe kaeza, made a firearms mod |
| 03:30 |
Doc22 |
maybe lazers |
| 03:30 |
Doc22 |
kewl |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
the guns actually shoot entity bullets |
| 03:30 |
JesseH |
Is it slow? |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
and has bazookas and rocket launchers |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
it works fine |
| 03:30 |
JesseH |
well I was talking more fast guns |
| 03:30 |
Doc22 |
like realistic firing? |
| 03:30 |
JesseH |
but something like a rocket launcher I could see why |
| 03:30 |
JesseH |
yeah |
| 03:30 |
Doc22 |
200 feet per sec |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
and a pistol, assault rifle, and shotgun |
| 03:31 |
Doc22 |
>:3 |
| 03:31 |
Menche |
kinda hard to hit players with the pistol and rifle |
| 03:31 |
sdzen |
no pistol whipping then? |
| 03:31 |
JesseH |
lol |
| 03:31 |
Doc22 |
i made chains mod, docfarming, campfires mod, and camo mod |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
and i think one more |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
just look at my signature on forums |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
im Doc on forums |
| 03:32 |
JesseH |
well the marijuana growing mod would be for more lax play |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
but Doc22 on irc |
| 03:32 |
JesseH |
Some form of buying and selling system would make it more fun |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
i honestly think that a hunger games mod would be cool |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
but |
| 03:32 |
JesseH |
having a shop to actually spend money on and what not |
| 03:32 |
Doc22 |
i dont know how to get the world to regenerate |
| 03:33 |
Doc22 |
and there is a shops mod |
| 03:33 |
JesseH |
okay good |
| 03:33 |
JesseH |
also I could work in some effects if one were to smoke the dried buds |
| 03:33 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 03:34 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:34 |
JesseH |
however, I wonder how much it would take to create something like ace of spades |
| 03:34 |
JesseH |
from minetest :P |
| 03:35 |
Doc22 |
i dont know but why? |
| 03:35 |
Doc22 |
just play aos if thats what you want |
| 03:35 |
JesseH |
Something open source |
| 03:35 |
JesseH |
:) |
| 03:36 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:36 |
sdzen |
ace of spades isnt free anymore |
| 03:36 |
JesseH |
that is the reason |
| 03:36 |
sdzen |
:( |
| 03:36 |
sdzen |
not hard |
| 03:36 |
sdzen |
just some good weapons |
| 03:36 |
JesseH |
I don't blame people for wanting to eat...but damn... |
| 03:36 |
sdzen |
needed |
| 03:36 |
* JesseH |
has never bought a game. |
| 03:36 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:37 |
JesseH |
and all mine are opensource |
| 03:37 |
Doc22 |
how many do you have |
| 03:37 |
JesseH |
a few long gone, unpublished |
| 03:37 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 03:37 |
JesseH |
2 in the works |
| 03:37 |
* Menche |
has only ever bought minecraft and starcraft2, and rarely plays either |
| 03:37 |
Doc22 |
look up starforge |
| 03:38 |
* sdzen |
has bought starcraft1 and sim city classic |
| 03:38 |
mauvebic |
wow, coulda dl'ed those easy lol |
| 03:38 |
Doc22 |
ive bought roller coaster tycoon, roller coaster tycoon 2, roller coaster tycoon 3, locomotion, |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
stronghold collection, |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
and about 10 wii games |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
several nintendo ds games |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:39 |
sdzen |
oh including console games? |
| 03:39 |
JesseH |
I would start on the mod if there was demand :P |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
eahh |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
idk |
| 03:39 |
mauvebic |
console games id need an emu |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
i want to make hunger games mod |
| 03:39 |
JesseH |
I just don't see too many people wanting to play AoS that havent already gave in and bought it |
| 03:39 |
mauvebic |
wife plays classic nintendo games on the emulator |
| 03:39 |
JesseH |
Doc22, actually yeah that would be cool too |
| 03:39 |
Doc22 |
VanessaE how would you regenerate a chunk |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
yeah i want to make one a lot |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
Doc22: you'd have to delete it from the map database file. |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
like for regenerating the map |
| 03:40 |
JesseH |
Doc22, I've played some minecraft hungergame mod, like those? |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
soo how would i do that in lua |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
you don't. |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
there's no hook for that yet |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
so i would have to do source |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
thanks vanessae |
| 03:40 |
JesseH |
dont give up the thought yet |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:40 |
Menche |
someone mentioned manually deleting part of the database |
| 03:40 |
JesseH |
What's your goal? |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
load ma |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
map |
| 03:40 |
Doc22 |
with spawn in part of it |
| 03:40 |
JesseH |
so reload a map |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
then run it |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
have spectator area |
| 03:41 |
JesseH |
map generation or a single map |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
maybe spectator status |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
single map |
| 03:41 |
JesseH |
I know that lua has binding to work with databases |
| 03:41 |
JesseH |
This could be a fun project |
| 03:41 |
JesseH |
bindings* |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:41 |
JesseH |
Unless you want to do it :P |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
cant you access db's with lua? |
| 03:41 |
Doc22 |
i started it once but i never really got into it |
| 03:42 |
JesseH |
mauvebic, Pretty much all major databases, there is some form of lua binding for |
| 03:42 |
Doc22 |
i never knew how to regen the map with different seed |
| 03:42 |
JesseH |
Doc22, you familiar with github? |
| 03:42 |
Doc22 |
yes kinda |
| 03:42 |
Doc22 |
but im also kinda a newb with it |
| 03:42 |
JesseH |
Well I could set one up |
| 03:42 |
Doc22 |
the extent of my knowledge is to put a mod on github |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
as long as you know how to make pull requests |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
and fork |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
and pull and push etc |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
commit |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
blarg |
| 03:43 |
Doc22 |
fork is to make another version of it right? |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
theres a button on the github website |
| 03:43 |
Doc22 |
pull is to get the code |
| 03:43 |
JesseH |
know how to branch? |
| 03:43 |
khonkhortisan |
split remote into pull/push, squash commits, rebase, move commits between branches |
| 03:43 |
Doc22 |
and push is to request the code to be changed |
| 03:43 |
Doc22 |
and yes i do |
| 03:43 |
khonkhortisan |
stash |
| 03:44 |
JesseH |
khonkhortisan, not that yet :P |
| 03:44 |
Doc22 |
i dont quite understand it |
| 03:44 |
khonkhortisan |
push is to change the code remotely, you're thinking of pull request |
| 03:44 |
Doc22 |
where is good documentation? |
| 03:44 |
JesseH |
google probably has something |
| 03:44 |
Doc22 |
eahh im just wondering if there is something someone reccomends |
| 03:44 |
JesseH |
don't quote me I just discovered internet yesterday |
| 03:45 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
im just trolling ya :P |
| 03:45 |
Doc22 |
ik |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
no offense |
| 03:45 |
Doc22 |
im joking too |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
,3 |
| 03:45 |
Doc22 |
playing along :P |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
<# |
| 03:45 |
Doc22 |
thats how i am |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
http://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/1 |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
got 15 minutes? |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
and want to learn git? |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 03:45 |
khonkhortisan |
I learned about git whenever I couldn't get it to do what I wanted |
| 03:45 |
JesseH |
khonkhortisan you 2 prah for meh |
| 03:46 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:46 |
JesseH |
Doc22, if you and I are the only ones who want a hunger games mod, then it might not be worth the effort. |
| 03:46 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:46 |
Doc22 |
if i had something to show |
| 03:46 |
JesseH |
Just a concept really |
| 03:46 |
Doc22 |
then it may attract people |
| 03:46 |
JesseH |
if someone cant use their imagination then f them :P |
| 03:46 |
Doc22 |
the extent of what i did is make trees uneditable |
| 03:46 |
JesseH |
that is only for irc-ers though |
| 03:46 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
the problem is |
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MinetestBot |
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| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
how realistic should it be |
| 03:47 |
JesseH |
You cant get wood from trees? ?!!?! |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
idk |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
sticks |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
then wood |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
i was thinking making it uneditable |
| 03:47 |
* JesseH |
turns up music |
| 03:47 |
JesseH |
:/ |
| 03:47 |
Doc22 |
but im just stupid like that O:L |
| 03:47 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:47 |
JesseH |
I want to add scriptable robots xD |
| 03:48 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:48 |
Doc22 |
something like the computercraft mod for minecrap would be cool |
| 03:48 |
khonkhortisan |
Use lua for the robots |
| 03:48 |
Doc22 |
(no that is not a typo) |
| 03:48 |
JesseH |
khonkhortisan, always :) |
| 03:48 |
JesseH |
I enjoyed minecraft :P |
| 03:48 |
Doc22 |
i do too |
| 03:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Yay! |
| 03:48 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:48 |
* NotReallyNick |
's favourite new features are usually bug fixes |
| 03:48 |
Doc22 |
i am 50/50 between minetest and minecraft |
| 03:49 |
Doc22 |
but i like minetest's community better |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
well the last time I played minetest, the servers all lagged, and I got some memory leakage |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
oh yeah I do too |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
its open source |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
uses lua |
| 03:49 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
what more could a hobbyist ask for |
| 03:49 |
Doc22 |
all that good stuff |
| 03:49 |
Doc22 |
ikr |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
I don't PLAY it much |
| 03:49 |
JesseH |
but thats because I havent made any mods that I like yet |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
minetest needs better performance |
| 03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm trying that challenge, and it wants me to commit -m |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
hmm |
| 03:50 |
JesseH |
commit -m "message" |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
... |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
soo bored |
| 03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I always use my text editor for that |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
doo dee dum |
| 03:50 |
Doc22 |
dah doo deeee |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
dit doo dahhhh |
| 03:51 |
JesseH |
Doc22, why not work on that mod ? |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
idk |
| 03:51 |
JesseH |
Get to work ._. |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
im too lazy right nauw |
| 03:51 |
JesseH |
I'm not paying you for nothing |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
._. |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
you arent paying me at all ._. |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
:P: |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
O:L |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
whats this? |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
a fly in my drink? |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
I HATE FLIES |
| 03:51 |
Doc22 |
DIEEEE |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
DIEIEEEE |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
HWAAAAA |
| 03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
/whisper "backstroke" |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
FLY SWATTER FOR YOU |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
lo |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:52 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/85700524 |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
hey, anyone want a red bumper sticker shaped like a fly swatter? |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
>:3 |
| 03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
mauve, that's really not what it's supposed to be used for |
| 03:52 |
JesseH |
Doc22, i shall help you with your mod |
| 03:52 |
mauvebic |
what is? |
| 03:52 |
Doc22 |
im not actually working on it right now |
| 03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest loading fancy models |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
im working on a video game |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
Doc22, oh well when you stop being lazy, I shall help you |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
and I am too, whatcha working on |
| 03:53 |
mauvebic |
lol so what? |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
voxel engine |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
with auto updater etc |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
Doc22, oh? lua scripting? |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
i got that down |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
and no |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
not lua |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
oh well im uninterested |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
java |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
get lua and well talk |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
omg gtfo |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
go away |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
uninterested |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
:( |
| 03:53 |
khonkhortisan |
get luajit and we'll talk faster |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
:) |
| 03:53 |
Doc22 |
thats what u said |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
<3 Lua |
| 03:53 |
JesseH |
lua all the time |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:54 |
mauvebic |
people at MC use the same thing actually |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
luajit compares to c speeds ;) suck it |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
i dont see why i would use it instead of java |
| 03:54 |
mauvebic |
you didn't think they built everything by hand? |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
im not at that point yet |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
java is about as fast, as something dead |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
something REALLY dead |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
like |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
you get it |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
ik |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
but i dont see why i want to use lua |
| 03:54 |
Menche |
minetest runs fine on my netbook; minecraft lags on the start screen |
| 03:54 |
Doc22 |
right now |
| 03:54 |
JesseH |
Oh tell me moar about how its multiplatform |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
because it would be simpler for me to have it with java |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
oh ok |
| 03:55 |
NotReallyNick |
Menche: Yeah, on my laptop too. |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
well |
| 03:55 |
JesseH |
I could write a voxel engine with lua + ogre faster then any java voxel engine :P |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
its just multiplatform |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
i know you could |
| 03:55 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
but i just wanna make it java |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
because |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
it |
| 03:55 |
JesseH |
Doc22, im just trolling you use whatever you want |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
is |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
easier |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
and more powerful |
| 03:55 |
JesseH |
because you understand it more |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
in my opinion |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
and i know you are |
| 03:55 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:55 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
use whatever I love all languages |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
except c# |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
<3 |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
no |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
:( |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
too soon? |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:56 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:56 |
JesseH |
what am i gonna do with this ring ;_; |
| 03:57 |
Doc22 |
i gtg |
| 03:57 |
Doc22 |
and im not gay... |
| 03:57 |
* JesseH |
scared him off |
| 03:57 |
JesseH |
:( |
| 03:57 |
NotReallyNick |
Bye. |
| 03:57 |
JesseH |
maybe im a sexy girl |
| 03:57 |
JesseH |
you never know |
| 03:57 |
Doc22 |
bye |
| 03:58 |
JesseH |
bye |
| 03:58 |
JesseH |
lol |
| 03:58 |
mauvebic |
ugh this chat is hard to fllow, try stringing the ones into coherent sentences :P |
| 03:58 |
NotReallyNick |
Meh. I'm to asexy to care. |
| 03:58 |
mauvebic |
*follow |
| 03:58 |
JesseH |
lol |
| 03:58 |
mauvebic |
*ones = words lol |
| 03:58 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 03:58 |
JesseH |
whoooo are you |
| 03:59 |
JesseH |
who who |
| 03:59 |
JesseH |
who who |
| 03:59 |
JesseH |
http://imgur.com/F0wIVef |
| 03:59 |
JesseH |
made that a second ago |
| 03:59 |
NotReallyNick |
Well, you may not know who I am, but you know who I'm not. I'm not Nick. |
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Hwkiller |
there is no such thign as an iron ingot, right? |
| 04:00 |
Menche |
right, they're called steel_ingot here |
| 04:00 |
NotReallyNick |
In Minetest, there are steel ingots, but no iron ingots. |
| 04:00 |
khonkhortisan |
http://imgur.com/gallery/1nbSf |
| 04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
1.19 I already knew what to type |
| 04:10 |
Hwkiller |
a craft recipe calls for iron ingots |
| 04:11 |
Hwkiller |
hm |
| 04:11 |
Hwkiller |
lol |
| 04:12 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 04:12 |
Menche |
where? |
| 04:13 |
sdzen |
we need to rename the ingots |
| 04:13 |
Hwkiller |
it's in a mod |
| 04:13 |
sdzen |
idk who thought iron smelts directly to steel |
| 04:13 |
Hwkiller |
in moreblocks |
| 04:13 |
Hwkiller |
it calls for iron ingots |
| 04:13 |
sdzen |
yeah it just means steel ingot |
| 04:13 |
sdzen |
there is only the one thing |
| 04:13 |
sdzen |
but so long as we cant add a small amount of carbon |
| 04:14 |
sdzen |
we cant call it steel :) |
| 04:14 |
Menche |
coal = carbon? |
| 04:14 |
mauvebic |
carbonite would be cool |
| 04:14 |
sdzen |
we could do it that way :) |
| 04:14 |
NotReallyNick |
I use logs and leaves to smelt, never coal. |
| 04:14 |
mauvebic |
i hear its superconductive? |
| 04:14 |
sdzen |
goodbye #minetest, happy plotting |
| 04:15 |
NotReallyNick |
Sometimes, I also use saplings. |
| 04:15 |
Hwkiller |
in the 'craft guide' mod, I'm only seeing a few available craft recipes. |
| 04:18 |
mauvebic |
craft guides seem to be notoriously buggy |
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mauvebic |
wow even with chance =1, abm on water runs pretty fast |
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Hwkiller |
ah, apparently the craft_guide I was using was out of date |
| 04:41 |
Hwkiller |
like, someone forked it to fix it |
| 04:42 |
Hwkiller |
also realized that farming wasn't working; it was missing "wool" even though that's in /usr/share/minetest/games/common |
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| 04:45 |
Hwkiller |
so apparently when you make a gametype, you have to manually pull down the mods from the /usr/share/games/* directories? |
| 04:45 |
Hwkiller |
it won't auto-pull from common and such? |
| 04:47 |
NotReallyNick |
A game only pulls from common if set to do so. |
| 04:48 |
Hwkiller |
and survival doesn't? |
| 04:48 |
NotReallyNick |
For example, minetest_game and build pull wool from common, but survival does not. |
| 04:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Right, survival doesn't pull wool. |
| 04:48 |
Hwkiller |
is there a reason for that? |
| 04:49 |
Hwkiller |
actually... what mobs/animals/etc come by default for survival? |
| 04:49 |
khonkhortisan |
There's no sheep to kill for wool |
| 04:49 |
NotReallyNick |
Because there is no way to get wool in survival. |
| 04:49 |
mauvebic |
cotton plants |
| 04:49 |
khonkhortisan |
It can't be done, so make it so it can't be done |
| 04:49 |
mauvebic |
its not wool but its close enuf :P |
| 04:49 |
NotReallyNick |
There's no way to get wool in build or survival either, so a better question would be why it IS pulled in those games. |
| 04:50 |
mauvebic |
likely pressure to do so |
| 04:50 |
NotReallyNick |
*build or minetest_game |
| 04:50 |
mauvebic |
ya'll always saying the game is not about realism :P |
| 04:50 |
mauvebic |
is it or isnt it? i guess it depends on the issue :P |
| 04:51 |
mauvebic |
make it grow in trees and under rocks :p |
| 04:52 |
NotReallyNick |
On one of my old worlds, I set it up so digging dirt with grass dropped the dirt AND a random dye or white wool. |
| 04:53 |
mauvebic |
im not entirely sure how dye is really extracted IRL lol flowers seemed close enough |
| 04:54 |
NotReallyNick |
But we don't have the API features to do flowers well yet, according to VanessaE. |
| 04:54 |
mauvebic |
historically it sounds like a long process of discovery, with each new color becoming a fashion trend (way back when) |
| 04:54 |
mauvebic |
flowers have always worked? |
| 04:54 |
mauvebic |
nature mod is one of the oldest |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
we don't have in-engine features in mapgen v6 yet, no. |
| 04:54 |
mauvebic |
well whats wrong with the present method? |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
v7 will have, though. |
| 04:55 |
NotReallyNick |
The ABMs cause lag or something. I'm not clear on the details of why we can't spawn flowers that way. |
| 04:55 |
mauvebic |
find grass, if air on top, place flower |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: nothing except it depends on Lua to do all the heavy lifting |
| 04:55 |
mauvebic |
i do much heavier things in lua, theres something up with your abm then |
| 04:55 |
mauvebic |
how much does it try to do at once? |
| 04:55 |
NotReallyNick |
So version seven will fix it? Good. I see people have been working on fixing that up. |
| 04:56 |
mauvebic |
right now: im using an ABM to fill a large area with water, creating an ocean, FPS roughly 25 while running |
| 04:57 |
NotReallyNick |
Flowers aren't that pretty, but are functional. I wouldn't mind seeing your poison ivy in common either. I love it for decorating "old" buildings. |
| 04:58 |
NotReallyNick |
Poison ivy would be darn right awesome in my tunnel, but I'd never be able to grow it fast enough to make that work, unless I could grow it in place somehow. |
| 04:59 |
mauvebic |
chunk filling w/ abm: http://www.zimg.eu/i/704755804 |
| 05:00 |
Hwkiller |
hm... can we not destroy steel doors? |
| 05:00 |
khonkhortisan |
Other people can't |
| 05:00 |
Hwkiller |
nvm; done w/ a sword for some reason |
| 05:01 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm trying to reassign the "for" keyword within a lua sandbox, and it's not working. The lua interpreter outside the sandbox keeps trying to interpret it. |
| 05:03 |
mauvebic |
doesnt sound like fun :p |
| 05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
{for = myfunction} |
| 05:04 |
mauvebic |
can you reassign keywords? |
| 05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
idk |
| 05:04 |
mauvebic |
whats it for? |
| 05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
luacontrollers |
| 05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
The way it prohibits looping keywords is with a string search, which catches "--for" and "fork = spoon" |
| 05:05 |
mauvebic |
well, if i had to do it, instead of reimplementing lua, i would have come up with a simple markup |
| 05:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I want lua to figure out whether it's a real call |
| 05:06 |
khonkhortisan |
like how microcontrollers work? |
| 05:08 |
mauvebic |
well, using lua within lua can be confusing :p |
| 05:09 |
khonkhortisan |
using lua within lua is fine, it's _not_ using lua in lua that's difficult :) |
| 05:09 |
mauvebic |
well thats what i mean you have to account for every lua function you dont want people using :P |
| 05:09 |
mauvebic |
and differentiate between the two levels |
| 05:10 |
khonkhortisan |
it's whitelisting for functions, then I'm attempting blacklisting for keywords |
| 05:11 |
khonkhortisan |
it's a table: {print = safeprint, tostring = tostring, etc.} |
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| 05:11 |
mauvebic |
and people say my mods have no place in a voxel world lol |
| 05:12 |
mauvebic |
sounds tricky |
| 05:13 |
mauvebic |
lol those crazy koreans getting ready to test a missile |
| 05:14 |
mauvebic |
i wish china would invade them and get it over w/ |
| 05:14 |
mauvebic |
china has like, empty cities |
| 05:14 |
mauvebic |
brand spanking new |
| 05:14 |
khonkhortisan |
the koreans can't just invade the koreans? |
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| 05:15 |
mauvebic |
either that or end the war |
| 05:15 |
mauvebic |
weather its one oligopoly or another ruling the north, what does it matter? lol |
| 05:22 |
* khonkhortisan |
just checked |
| 05:22 |
khonkhortisan |
the lua people say it can't be done |
| 05:23 |
mauvebic |
i didn't think so :/ |
| 05:23 |
NotReallyNick |
My would your plugins have no place in Minetest? |
| 05:23 |
NotReallyNick |
It seems like you build some pretty cool stuff. |
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| 05:24 |
mauvebic |
how should i know? lol the whole "voxel world" refrain comes up whenever someone doesn't like something :p |
| 05:24 |
mauvebic |
but they usually turn around and create something just as convoluted lol |
| 05:24 |
NotReallyNick |
Have you made any non-voxel nodes? I haven't seen any. |
| 05:24 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest doesn't support angled cubes |
| 05:25 |
NotReallyNick |
You're the one building the mesh voxelizer, right? |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
yep |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
*built |
| 05:25 |
khonkhortisan |
what sense does it make to have to load the block to get a node? Shouldn't getting a node load the block to get the node? |
| 05:25 |
NotReallyNick |
Oh, it's done? My bad. |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
technically, i built the reader |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
and spawner |
| 05:25 |
mauvebic |
the actual voxelizer was written by someone at stanford or MIT |
| 05:26 |
NotReallyNick |
It builds things out of the standard nodes, so people can't claim it's any less voxelly than anything else. |
| 05:26 |
mauvebic |
people tend to accept concepts that are already established in MC, but if its completely new, then they claim it has no place lol and complain were making a clone lol |
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khonkhortisan |
it's turning something non-voxel into voxel. Its inheritance can show through |
| 05:28 |
khonkhortisan |
whatever that mean- |
| 05:28 |
khonkhortisan |
*means |
| 05:28 |
mauvebic |
though, i have plenty of nodeboxes too, and i dont think theyre out of place here |
| 05:29 |
mauvebic |
and when people write complicated routines to get round and angled nodes, and vote down the concept of true round and angled nodes, well that confuses the fuck out of me lol |
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NotReallyNick |
I don't know. At least I'm consistent, and don't like either. |
| 05:30 |
mauvebic |
well people are free not to use them, but depriving others because people personally disagree w/ it, thats just dumb |
| 05:31 |
mauvebic |
you dont get more variety by limiting options |
| 05:31 |
NotReallyNick |
I'm only for/against things being added to default, mostly. Once it's in default, there's no escaping it without writing a custom default. |
| 05:32 |
mauvebic |
i stopped using minetest game with that whole mese fiasco lol |
| 05:32 |
NotReallyNick |
Adding things in plugins give more choices, and is almost always a good thing. |
| 05:32 |
mauvebic |
so whatever they do to it now, i have my game |
| 05:32 |
khonkhortisan |
I ignore gameplay changes until I have to update |
| 05:32 |
mauvebic |
well yeah, the more API the better |
| 05:32 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't mean minetest_game, I mean just the default plugin, as it's pretty much needed for mapgen. |
| 05:33 |
mauvebic |
well yeah, though my copy of default was split some time ago now |
| 05:33 |
NotReallyNick |
I use a custom game, but I need default, so when annoying things are added to it ..... |
| 05:33 |
mauvebic |
i doubt id recognize the new default and game |
| 05:33 |
NotReallyNick |
I see. |
| 05:34 |
NotReallyNick |
I use the new common system. |
| 05:34 |
mauvebic |
its always a can of worms everytime they touch it anyhow lol |
| 05:34 |
NotReallyNick |
The new common system is pretty close to the system I always thought we SHOULD have. It's not quite, but close enough. |
| 05:35 |
mauvebic |
i still dont much get the common systems, seems complicated, and people proposing multiple commons makes me think the old way was simpler/better |
| 05:35 |
mauvebic |
i might have gone the python way: import modname from gamename |
| 05:36 |
mauvebic |
then you keep minetest_game up to date and all other games are automatically so |
| 05:36 |
NotReallyNick |
I think we need one directory where ALL the plugins are put. Then each world or each game chooses which to use. None would be only accessible from one game. |
| 05:36 |
Hwkiller |
+1 |
| 05:36 |
mauvebic |
so basically youd just have game description files |
| 05:37 |
NotReallyNick |
mauvebic: Exactly. |
| 05:37 |
mauvebic |
but what happens when you need a custom default, custom mapgen.lua, etc. ? |
| 05:37 |
mauvebic |
you cant have two |
| 05:37 |
khonkhortisan |
mapgen = mapgen2? |
| 05:37 |
NotReallyNick |
Name it something different. "gamename_mapgen", or something. |
| 05:37 |
mauvebic |
mpagen.lua where all the aliases are |
| 05:38 |
NotReallyNick |
Or, your import method works too. I mostly typed mine before you submitted yours, so it wasn't meant to be contradictory. |
| 05:38 |
mauvebic |
i dunno, i didn't really see a problem with the old system tbh |
| 05:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't trust weather to not contaminate my pure mesecon world |
| 05:38 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't see the point in weather. |
| 05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
realism! |
| 05:39 |
mauvebic |
import method is better than just symlink which doesnt work in win aparently |
| 05:39 |
mauvebic |
but i symlinked my mods to the game folders before |
| 05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
You go out in the storm, there's a flash of lightning, and you see a mob in front of you! |
| 05:39 |
NotReallyNick |
The world is made on boxes. As long as that continues to be true, we'll never have realism. |
| 05:40 |
mauvebic |
realism in the sense of an intense 3d game no |
| 05:40 |
mauvebic |
but when you put time into building something thats real, you aim for as-precise-as-possible |
| 05:40 |
khonkhortisan |
Even the people who use blender for a living say there isn't realism |
| 05:40 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't know. I think weather will be added to the engine. I just hope there's a way to disable it on a per-world basis. |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
well I think I'll hit the sack. Night all. |
| 05:40 |
NotReallyNick |
Good night. |
| 05:40 |
mauvebic |
nite |
| 05:41 |
Hwkiller |
I need to figure out what is redundant between my mods and 4.6... |
| 05:41 |
mauvebic |
they cant add weather without being able to disable it, some old hardware cant handle that |
| 05:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Good luck. 4.6 isn't out yet. |
| 05:41 |
mauvebic |
and even the able dont want to put resources on it |
| 05:41 |
mauvebic |
(all ) |
| 05:41 |
khonkhortisan |
If I can get it to not add actual nodes, I'm fine with it |
| 05:41 |
mauvebic |
(not all) |
| 05:41 |
Hwkiller |
... .4.6? |
| 05:42 |
NotReallyNick |
4.s isn't out. We have 0.4.6. |
| 05:42 |
NotReallyNick |
*4.6 |
| 05:42 |
Hwkiller |
oh my god. |
| 05:42 |
Hwkiller |
how pedantic can one be |
| 05:42 |
mauvebic |
im sure someones' available for a crusade :P |
| 05:42 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 05:42 |
mauvebic |
like the linux kernel versioning thing |
| 05:43 |
mauvebic |
then end up going with both |
| 05:43 |
khonkhortisan |
I still have to convince someone on another channel to use "its" in place of "it's" |
| 05:43 |
mauvebic |
makes you think if they focused less on politics and more on code... lol |
| 05:43 |
mauvebic |
dont bother :p |
| 05:43 |
NotReallyNick |
Let me guess. Windows user? I think I've noticed a pattern, and the only people I've seen purposely using the wrong version have been Windows users. I'd love to see how long that pattern continues. |
| 05:43 |
khonkhortisan |
but they say it over and over |
| 05:44 |
Hwkiller |
me? |
| 05:44 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah. |
| 05:44 |
mauvebic |
yeah but the more you bug people about the more they go out of their way to piss you off |
| 05:44 |
Hwkiller |
Me a windows user? Surely you're kidding |
| 05:44 |
khonkhortisan |
Then you see who lasts the longest |
| 05:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay, pattern broken. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. |
| 05:45 |
mauvebic |
people are argumentative enough IRL, especially at work, and it takes my all not to deck some of them lol |
| 05:45 |
khonkhortisan |
But you don't know if the windowmanager is windows-like |
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Hwkiller |
I just think it's asinine to correct someone who says "4.6" instead of ".4.6" when EVERYONE HERE Knows that there is no 4.6, and that 4.6 must mean .4.6 |
| 05:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Window managers are of little consern to me. |
| 05:46 |
khonkhortisan |
and 0.1 is the same as .1 |
| 05:46 |
mauvebic |
i usually just say 046 |
| 05:46 |
mauvebic |
people get it |
| 05:46 |
NotReallyNick |
I think it's asinine to use the incorect version number, KNOWING it's the incorect version number. |
| 05:46 |
Hwkiller |
but there is no version fourty six, you must mean 0.4.6 |
| 05:46 |
Hwkiller |
... |
| 05:46 |
mauvebic |
if they point out the lack of dots, i tell them where they can put it lol |
| 05:46 |
khonkhortisan |
046 is hex or binary |
| 05:46 |
mauvebic |
0x46 would be hex |
| 05:47 |
NotReallyNick |
Bibary can't have 4s or 6s. |
| 05:47 |
NotReallyNick |
*binary |
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mauvebic |
point is, if people have the energy to point that out, they should go build something or get laid |
| 05:47 |
NotReallyNick |
What even is "bibery"? Bibs for the young ones? I need to hit the correct keys more often. |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
i get the feeling alot of people here are single lol |
| 05:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Getting laid isn't for everyone. |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
wouldn't hurt for some |
| 05:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Some, probaby. |
| 05:48 |
NotReallyNick |
*probably |
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khonkhortisan |
probibally |
| 05:48 |
mauvebic |
*prolly :p |
| 05:49 |
NotReallyNick |
I wonder if I'm the only asexual of the group .... |
| 05:49 |
khonkhortisan |
shoulda coulda woulda alot couldn't've irregardless! |
| 05:49 |
mauvebic |
cant blame you, knock up the wrong women and youre in for 18 years of support |
| 05:50 |
mauvebic |
in the age of feminism and abortion, forcing someone through the courts to support a kid they dont want... lol |
| 05:50 |
NotReallyNick |
Asexuallity isn't a choice, so it's not like I'm trying to avoid unwanted pregnancies or something. |
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khonkhortisan |
Well it's definitely not dna |
| 05:51 |
mauvebic |
i doubt orientation is a choice at all |
| 05:51 |
mauvebic |
who would chose to put up with so much bullshit? lol |
| 05:51 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't know. I was born without sexuality. DNA or not, there nothing to do about it. |
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mauvebic |
ill take a big fat blind gay guy over a religious wingnut any day lol |
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khonkhortisan |
I really don't know where that variable would be stored |
| 05:53 |
NotReallyNick |
Well yeah, fat gays are not annoying. |
| 05:53 |
mauvebic |
sorry, meant black fat blind gay guy (from king of the hill) |
| 05:53 |
NotReallyNick |
Well, some might be, but they aren't by definition annoying. |
| 05:54 |
NotReallyNick |
I don't watch that. It used to give me headaches. |
| 05:54 |
mauvebic |
being annoying isn't limited to one race, religion, orientation or nationality |
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mauvebic |
i loved KOTH, satirizes so much of the bullshit of our age lol |
| 05:54 |
NotReallyNick |
"religious wingnut". It's not the religion alone that is annoying. |
| 05:55 |
mauvebic |
the whole concept that when a person believes in something he must be right and anyone who disagrees wrong...its fascism |
| 05:56 |
mauvebic |
and the fascist usually had the church's backing |
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mauvebic |
honestly, if i had the means, id be living in a cabin, far up north, away from people lol |
| 06:00 |
mauvebic |
course, when i hear stories about my great-grandpa shooting in the vicinity of any stranger approaching his property, i know where i get my antisocialness from lol |
| 06:00 |
NotReallyNick |
Ha ha. |
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mauvebic |
id go w/ a high voltage electric fence |
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mauvebic |
coffee at 3am? why not (if anyone asks, im getting it ready for our euro-area members :P) |
| 06:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, that's it. That's all you're doing. |
| 06:45 |
mauvebic |
still building a giant ocean actually :p |
| 06:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Come to think of it, I should do the same. |
| 06:45 |
NotReallyNick |
Not the ocean, the preparation. I'm not building an ocean. |
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mauvebic |
cant sleep, clown 'ill eat me |
| 06:46 |
mauvebic |
meh i cant do coffee in advance, i have to grind it |
| 06:46 |
mauvebic |
whats the point of freshly ground if you ground it last night heh? |
| 06:47 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, it probably will eat you. Even if it won't try to eat you if you sleep, it doesn't hurt to play it safe and just stay up. |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
actually my wife still has 1 nightshift a week, and i know how frustrating that can be so i always stay up till she gets home |
| 06:48 |
NotReallyNick |
That's nice of you. |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
shit i did for 4 years |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
*did it |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
got robbed a few times too, though where she is she's not alone |
| 06:49 |
mauvebic |
otherwise id telll her to screw the nightshifts lol |
| 06:53 |
mauvebic |
http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/04/08/042231/resurrecting-the-linux-game-tome?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter |
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Doyousketch2 |
I think I found what ShadowNinja|Away was asking about |
| 07:19 |
NotReallyNick |
What was he talking about? I wasn't here. |
| 07:19 |
Doyousketch2 |
he was asking why fire was burning dirt out from under his house |
| 07:21 |
NotReallyNick |
Fire burns dirt? Since when? |
| 07:21 |
Doyousketch2 |
It think the prob comes in between lines 173 - 188 - https://github.com/minetest/common/blob/master/mods/fire/init.lua |
| 07:23 |
NotReallyNick |
That only hits nodes in the flammable group. Dirt isn't in that group. |
| 07:23 |
Doyousketch2 |
er, 173 - 183. it random maths, checks for p, ends, then removes a node |
| 07:24 |
NotReallyNick |
Where p is always nil or a node in the flammable group. |
| 07:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Because of line 175. |
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Doyousketch2 |
175 was ended tho |
| 07:28 |
NotReallyNick |
That block isn't ended until p is no longer needed. Uless I'm missing something. |
| 07:28 |
NotReallyNick |
*Unless |
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Doyousketch2 |
I dunno, I'm too tired to code. I tried. I'll read it again in the morning. |
| 07:30 |
Doyousketch2 |
I was prolly reading it as p0, 'cuz the next line down reads that way |
| 07:30 |
NotReallyNick |
Ah, that would make sense. |
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markveidemanis |
I think i have fixed the creative+inventory_plus thing |
| 08:12 |
markveidemanis |
But the creative screen is the craft screen if the creatove mode is disables |
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markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/7367428 |
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markveidemanis |
I want to return nothing to the player when he digs a node |
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markveidemanis |
http://ifunny.mobi/#GE7sYxcZ LOL |
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| 10:18 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:19 |
NotReallyNick |
Hello, PilzAdam! |
| 10:22 |
NotReallyNick |
I'm having the oddest issue. Group-based ABMs continue to apply to nodes that have been re-registered with the group removed. |
| 10:22 |
PilzAdam |
how have your re-registered the nodes? |
| 10:23 |
PilzAdam |
with register_node(":mod:name")? |
| 10:24 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah. And I also put the original node's plugin into depends.txt. |
| 10:25 |
NotReallyNick |
It's an exact copy of the original registration, but with tht : prefix added and the group removed. |
| 10:25 |
PilzAdam |
it might be that register_abm() converts the group to nodenames when registering |
| 10:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. So nodes registered after the ABM would also be unaffected? |
| 10:26 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. |
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* PilzAdam |
looks at the code |
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PilzAdam |
seems like the abms are stored in minetest.registered_abms and are read when the env gets creted |
| 10:29 |
PilzAdam |
*created |
| 10:29 |
PilzAdam |
wtf |
| 10:29 |
PilzAdam |
18 unread notifications on github >:-( |
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NotReallyNick |
So it should respond to me removing the group during startup .... |
| 10:30 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm.... |
| 10:31 |
NotReallyNick |
Unless C++ is keeping the old registered groups. |
| 10:31 |
NotReallyNick |
Lua is reading the change just fine. |
| 10:31 |
markveidemanis |
I need to return no items when a player digs something |
| 10:31 |
markveidemanis |
if playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] == "Creative" then |
| 10:31 |
markveidemanis |
That probably explains most of the problem |
| 10:32 |
markveidemanis |
Help... |
| 10:32 |
NotReallyNick |
Look in creative. It has the code you need, but I forget which function it overrides to do it. |
| 10:33 |
NotReallyNick |
It might be handle_node_drops(). |
| 10:33 |
NotReallyNick |
Have that check the player's mode, then do whatever accordingly. |
| 10:34 |
PilzAdam |
NotReallyNick, no, Lua handles minetest.registered_abms until the env gets created |
| 10:34 |
PilzAdam |
before that the core does nothing with it |
| 10:34 |
PilzAdam |
can you check if the node gets overriden correclty? (by dumping it to the console after a second or so) |
| 10:35 |
NotReallyNick |
No, I mean maybe the register_node() might not be overwriting the old node definition with the new one properly. So maybe the node still IS in the group, according to C++. Maybe the ABM isn't the one failing. |
| 10:35 |
NotReallyNick |
Okay. I'll go dump it. |
| 10:38 |
NotReallyNick |
minetest.after(3, function() |
| 10:38 |
NotReallyNick |
print(dump(minetest.registered_nodes["fire:basic_flame"])) |
| 10:38 |
NotReallyNick |
end) |
| 10:38 |
NotReallyNick |
This shows the group removed, though it still acts as though it wasn't. |
| 10:39 |
PilzAdam |
odd |
| 10:39 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah. |
| 10:41 |
* PilzAdam |
compiled the new not leaking Minetest |
| 10:41 |
markveidemanis |
is there a minetest on_dig |
| 10:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Nice. I wonder how much better that will perform. |
| 10:41 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah. |
| 10:41 |
PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, read the API doc |
| 10:41 |
markveidemanis |
this is what i got: http://pastie.org/7368354 |
| 10:42 |
NotReallyNick |
I wonder if the memory leaks were causing the F10 segfaults. |
| 10:42 |
PilzAdam |
probably not |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
Can minetestbot query me when there is a GIT update? :D |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
Hi MinetestBot |
| 10:43 |
markveidemanis |
Why is he not here? |
| 10:43 |
NotReallyNick |
You could probably set up some sort of notification from Github. |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
Nvm, how do i go about the dig thing |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
on_dig or on_punchnode |
| 10:44 |
PilzAdam |
NotReallyNick, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/149 |
| 10:44 |
NotReallyNick |
Go about what? |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
because now i place and it does not take items but when i dig i get items |
| 10:46 |
NotReallyNick |
markveidemanis: you need to overwrite the done drop handler, not use on_*. |
| 10:47 |
NotReallyNick |
*node drop |
| 10:47 |
markveidemanis |
It worked when i used env.remove_node(pos) |
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PilzAdam |
NotReallyNick, you actually have to override on_placenode() and return true if no item should be taken away |
| 10:54 |
PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, sure, because that isnt related to a player |
| 10:55 |
markveidemanis |
if playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] == "Creative" then #i need the next line |
| 10:55 |
PilzAdam |
return true |
| 10:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ilzAdam if i can make a way toi switch gamemodes then could it be added to common |
| 10:55 |
PilzAdam |
and thet in on_placenode() |
| 10:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
markv are you talking about creative changer |
| 10:55 |
NotReallyNick |
PilzAdam: He wanted no item to be given when digging. It didn't have to do with placing nodes, he had that part coded already. |
| 10:55 |
PilzAdam |
oh |
| 10:55 |
PilzAdam |
yea, then you need to override hande_node_drops |
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Leoneof |
hello o/ |
| 10:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
pilzadam have you seen the inventory i have made |
| 10:56 |
PilzAdam |
not yet |
| 10:56 |
markveidemanis |
Mines better! its bigger, BIgger is better ALWAYS |
| 10:56 |
markveidemanis |
If you get what i mean |
| 10:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
please try it |
| 10:56 |
NotReallyNick |
Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. |
| 10:56 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, you still need to find a file sharing service that gives you a direct download link to the .zip |
| 10:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
also i will work on it more so there can be different inventypes |
| 10:57 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i have gotten dropbox |
| 10:58 |
PilzAdam |
<NotReallyNick> Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. <- <NotReallyNick> Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. |
| 10:58 |
PilzAdam |
* https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua |
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| 11:00 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i am uploading the same version but with dropbox |
| 11:00 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
does dropbox give direct downloads |
| 11:00 |
PilzAdam |
IIRC yes |
| 11:01 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip |
| 11:01 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
does that give direct? |
| 11:02 |
ruskie |
yes with wget |
| 11:02 |
PilzAdam |
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip?token_hash=AAH1_SBa4Ro2mhNMbDMWfJYguR7dKrd9zKWt0r53wOpLag&dl=1 |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
wait |
| 11:02 |
PilzAdam |
thats the direct link |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip?token_hash=AAH1_SBa4Ro2mhNMbDMWfJYguR7dKrd9zKWt0r53wOpLag&dl=1 |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
lol |
| 11:02 |
ruskie |
wget gets the original link as well |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
ok can you put that on topic |
| 11:02 |
PilzAdam |
remove the old one? |
| 11:02 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
yesw |
| 11:03 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
this is the same version |
| 11:03 |
NotReallyNick |
PilzAdam: I just re-registered cobble, after removing the stone group, to test the group overriding. I can't craft a pick from cobble now. I don't get it, removing groups removes group-based crafts, but it doesn't remove group-based ABMs .... |
| 11:03 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
is there a way i can check for creative |
| 11:03 |
NotReallyNick |
if minetest.setting_getbool("creative_mode") then |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
NotReallyNick, remove the ABM from minetest.registered_abms and re-register it |
| 11:04 |
markveidemanis |
jojoa do you want to see my inventory? |
| 11:04 |
markveidemanis |
It switches by command |
| 11:04 |
markveidemanis |
And works with inventory plus |
| 11:04 |
markveidemanis |
AND has a bigger inventory |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997_Tablet, why do you have .git in the .zip? |
| 11:04 |
NotReallyNick |
How do I remove it? I can't set it to nil, as it's indexed by an unknown number. |
| 11:05 |
PilzAdam |
find the index and use table.remove(minetest.registered_abms, index) |
| 11:05 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
idk |
| 11:05 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
oh that is what comes in when you download a file from github |
| 11:05 |
NotReallyNick |
How do you find the index though? There's no way of knowing. |
| 11:05 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
that is how they know what is the same |
| 11:06 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997_Tablet, the .git is for git repos |
| 11:06 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
yeah |
| 11:06 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i never removed it |
| 11:06 |
PilzAdam |
13:06:35: ERROR[geThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (-332,4,1007) (block (-21,0,62)) |
| 11:06 |
PilzAdam |
wtf have you done? |
| 11:07 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i dont know |
| 11:07 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i thought that was an engine bug |
| 11:07 |
PilzAdam |
it isnt |
| 11:07 |
PilzAdam |
you told the engine to place a not registered node |
| 11:08 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
it is probably renaming every ******* node |
| 11:08 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i will check |
| 11:08 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997_Tablet, you have to set the width of the crafting list to 2 |
| 11:08 |
PilzAdam |
otherwise you cant craft there correctly |
| 11:08 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
? |
| 11:08 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i did |
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jojoa1997_Tablet |
look in inventory |
| 11:09 |
PilzAdam |
also, there is no workbench |
| 11:09 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
hay you know what go light on me |
| 11:09 |
PilzAdam |
you have to call this method: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1376 |
| 11:09 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
sorry but i cant fix anything now or for like a week |
| 11:09 |
rubenwardy |
can this be sticky-ed? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4541 |
| 11:10 |
PilzAdam |
then just write down the bugs somwere and fix them later |
| 11:10 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, of course not |
| 11:10 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
the thing is i have no idea what the bugs are and i cant play minetest on my computer cause it has become unusable |
| 11:11 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
that is why i am pushing minetest for android to get done |
| 11:11 |
PilzAdam |
thats why I report them to you |
| 11:11 |
PilzAdam |
play sounds when removing nodes in creative |
| 11:12 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
maybe your superior modding abilities could help |
| 11:12 |
PilzAdam |
and change /gamemode_0 to /gamemode 0 |
| 11:12 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
i dont have the time to do everything on my tablet either |
| 11:12 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
it doesnt work |
| 11:12 |
PilzAdam |
the way you remove the nodes in creative is not good |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
/gamemode 0 is taken as /gamemode |
| 11:13 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> the way you remove the nodes in creative is not good |
| 11:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i know |
| 11:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i didnt make theat part of the code |
| 11:13 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, yes, you have to check the param that is passed to the function |
| 11:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i have to go. if you want it fixed within a week then you or someone else will have to work on it |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
I dont care about when you fix it |
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NotReallyNick |
So ... Why did Jojoa take over you Minitest? |
| 11:15 |
rubenwardy |
wow sapier, lots of mem leak work done |
| 11:15 |
rubenwardy |
... not here |
| 11:15 |
PilzAdam |
NotReallyNick, he wanted to help me restructure the whole thing |
| 11:16 |
NotReallyNick |
Ah, that's nice of him. |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
and it turned out that he did everything on his |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
+own |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
and he also cant access github anymore, so I cant review his code |
| 11:17 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, I heard. Github was blocked because sharing code is evil. |
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markveidemanis |
if on_punchnode returns puncher, whats on_dognode |
| 11:17 |
markveidemanis |
on_dignode* |
| 11:17 |
markveidemanis |
Digger or smth? |
| 11:17 |
markveidemanis |
JOrdach use a real client |
| 11:17 |
markveidemanis |
lol |
| 11:18 |
NotReallyNick |
What's wrong with his client? |
| 11:18 |
Jordach |
markveidemanis, i change host and that's it, not join as webchat then use the cloak and revert |
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markveidemanis |
I have an idea for a mod |
| 11:26 |
markveidemanis |
A command: /server that sends a message as the server to everyone |
| 11:26 |
rubenwardy |
markveidemanis: easy peasy |
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markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/7368954 |
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rubenwardy |
markveidemanis |
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markveidemanis |
yop |
| 11:38 |
rubenwardy |
http://pastebin.com/7yM4MDwq i belive |
| 11:38 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 11:39 |
markveidemanis |
on_drop? |
| 11:39 |
rubenwardy |
on_dig i think actually |
| 11:39 |
rubenwardy |
http://dev.minetest.net/register_node#on_drop |
| 11:39 |
markveidemanis |
same but on_dig? |
| 11:40 |
rubenwardy |
try it |
| 11:40 |
rubenwardy |
It might not be dug |
| 11:41 |
rubenwardy |
you might have to do http://pastebin.com/yU0Fyzxc |
| 11:42 |
rubenwardy |
or http://pastebin.com/n6nnFXsT rather |
| 11:42 |
rubenwardy |
ask pilzadam |
| 11:42 |
PilzAdam |
busy. 3D sheeps |
| 11:43 |
rubenwardy |
cancel that |
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markveidemanis |
minetest.register_"" |
| 11:43 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, IKR |
| 11:43 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, theyre awesome, arent they? |
| 11:44 |
rubenwardy |
http://pastebin.com/JfYsfPnh |
| 11:44 |
rubenwardy |
see http://dev.minetest.net/register_node#Node_definition |
| 11:48 |
NotReallyNick |
Hmm. I'm not a fan of the sheep. I don't suppose we could rename wool cotton, and farm it instead. No? I thought not, but it was worth suggesting. |
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markveidemanis |
â–„â–„ |
| 12:21 |
markveidemanis |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82440#p82440 |
| 12:23 |
celeron55 |
both need an addition to the engine (adding such is fine though) |
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| 12:26 |
Taoki |
Anyone know why on_receive_fields isn't working? I set up a formspec on that node, but when clicking a button this doesn't do anything |
| 12:27 |
Taoki |
<PilzAdam> busy. 3D sheeps |
| 12:27 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Saw your 3D sheep on the forum. Looks very good! But the mouse isn't made out of blocks... I suggest remaking that model into a blocky version to not break the default style |
| 12:28 |
markveidemanis |
markmt.strangled.net:30000 is up if anyone wants to play |
| 12:29 |
Taoki |
Not now for me. Busy on making a mod which I think a lot of people will enjoy when ready |
| 12:30 |
markveidemanis |
What mod??? |
| 12:30 |
markveidemanis |
GIve at least a hint... |
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Taoki |
It wil allow importing and exporting houses or any structure you build in-world easily |
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| 12:32 |
markveidemanis |
Meh |
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markveidemanis |
I have worldedit |
| 12:33 |
markveidemanis |
And multinode |
| 12:33 |
markveidemanis |
And i need someone to help me with spawn on my server |
| 12:34 |
Taoki |
I'm trying to figure out why on_receive_fields doesn't execute when clicking buttons in my formspec |
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Kacey |
stupid XChat |
| 12:39 |
markveidemanis |
Hello Kacey |
| 12:39 |
markveidemanis |
I am making a map of my server |
| 12:39 |
markveidemanis |
with minetestmapper |
| 12:40 |
markveidemanis |
There should be an automatic server that does it, like i upload map and it sends me the png |
| 12:40 |
markveidemanis |
how do i do the fancy isometric map? |
| 12:41 |
Kacey |
well i cant use XChat anymore... |
| 12:42 |
Kacey |
brb |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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Kacey |
IceChat now |
| 12:46 |
markveidemanis |
Hi kacey |
| 12:46 |
markveidemanis |
I will upload my server map... |
| 12:48 |
Kacey |
uugh |
| 12:48 |
* Kacey |
wishes that XChat was completely free |
| 12:51 |
Jordach |
Kacey, i thought you were talking about IceCraft|Away |
| 12:52 |
Jordach |
Kacey, hexchat |
| 12:54 |
markveidemanis |
http://speedy.sh/5Zu98/map.png |
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Jordach |
hey RealBadAngel |
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Jordach |
Leoneof, hey |
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* Jordach |
is working on a smooth pack |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
(minetest doesnt have that many too choose from...) |
| 13:09 |
Leoneof |
hi Jordach , do i know you? :) |
| 13:09 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, in one of the most active forum members |
| 13:10 |
Leoneof |
i haven't registered in minetest forums, maybe you know another Leonx |
| 13:10 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, nope. |
| 13:10 |
Jordach |
I remember you from the other times you've dropped by |
| 13:11 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: Ubuntu forums? |
| 13:11 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, no |
| 13:11 |
Jordach |
Minetest* |
| 13:11 |
Leoneof |
i'm scared, this could be just dream, wake up O_O |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, nope |
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Leoneof |
any link? |
| 13:12 |
Jordach |
forum.minetest.net |
| 13:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Pilzadam I will try to fix minitest |
| 13:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Could you send me a pm of the problems and maybe fixes you know |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
minitest by jojoa is looking like moontest |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, ^ |
| 13:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Moon test? |
| 13:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Why |
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PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, read the logs what I said the last time |
| 13:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Ok |
| 13:14 |
PilzAdam |
and this is just 1 min. testing |
| 13:15 |
PilzAdam |
you need to test stuff yourself |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach why am I like moontest? |
| 13:15 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: check again, it's not me |
| 13:15 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I do but I can't have minetest on my PC atm |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
minetest.register_alias("full of hot air", "Moontest") |
| 13:16 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Well that Ida's boy minitest |
| 13:16 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Gt class almost over |
| 13:18 |
Leoneof |
Jordach: O_O |
| 13:19 |
PilzAdam |
basically everything done by Likwid is "Moontest" |
| 13:19 |
Jordach |
jojoa makes results, but not often enough |
| 13:22 |
* Leoneof |
puts Jordach on *ignore list* |
| 13:22 |
Jordach |
heh |
| 13:23 |
markveidemanis |
Who wants to play chess |
| 13:24 |
Jordach |
nope. |
| 13:25 |
Jordach |
i'd rather pit my bot against someone |
| 13:27 |
rubenwardy |
I am never sure whether Likwid is taking the piss, or is genuine |
| 13:27 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, sup? |
| 13:28 |
Jordach |
sup RBA |
| 13:28 |
* Jordach |
agrees with rubenwardy |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, just back from work |
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| 13:28 |
markveidemanis |
hmmmm wanna play chess? |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
hi hmmmm |
| 13:28 |
RealBadAngel |
seems we do have similar timing ;) i also came in |
| 13:29 |
Jordach |
minetest.register_alias("hmmmm", "Ryan") |
| 13:31 |
hmmmm |
hrmmmm |
| 13:31 |
RealBadAngel |
close, should be rather minetest.register_alias("default:hmmmm", "Kwolek:Ryan") |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
minetest.register_alias("hmmmm", "RealBadAngel") |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 13:32 |
Jordach |
there should be a block for every developer |
| 13:32 |
PilzAdam |
*node? |
| 13:32 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, yeah |
| 13:32 |
PilzAdam |
c55's disappears randomly for some weeks :-) |
| 13:33 |
Jordach |
make em rare like nyan cats |
| 13:33 |
Jordach |
the c55 block can become mese blocks |
| 13:34 |
RealBadAngel |
meh, rather CPU node |
| 13:34 |
celeron55 |
there's already a texture for that block; my personal site's favicon 8) |
| 13:34 |
* Leoneof |
puts hmmmm on *ignore list* |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, hmmmm is a developer |
| 13:35 |
RealBadAngel |
anybody else tried system wide luajit patch? |
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Leoneof |
Jordach: you are on ignore list, i can't read your chat :) |
| 13:37 |
Leoneof |
i didn't know hmmmm is a developer ;D |
| 13:37 |
* Jordach |
winces at the amount of tools in minetest_game |
| 13:38 |
Leoneof |
btw, is it possible to play minetest with two pc (intranet only) ? linux and windows |
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sfan5 |
Leoneof: yes |
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Jordach |
Leoneof, minetest is multi platform |
| 13:39 |
Leoneof |
great, it will be nice to find minetest for android, to build great city :) |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Jordach o am also balancing achool |
| 13:40 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, minetest wont run on android just yet |
| 13:40 |
Leoneof |
;[ |
| 13:40 |
Jordach |
because the irrlicht examples wont compile as of yet |
| 13:40 |
Jordach |
sfan5 is trying |
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Leoneof |
it's okay, two pc is fine |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
2 PC? |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: they compile but don't work |
| 13:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Is that a type of computer |
| 13:41 |
Jordach |
sfan5, well, im wrong them :) |
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Leoneof |
jojoa1997|Tablet: multiplayer |
| 13:41 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Ok |
| 13:41 |
Leoneof |
mojo jojo :) |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
!c 3^2 |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 13:42 |
Jordach |
minetestbot isnt here |
| 13:42 |
Jordach |
^ sfan5 |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Sfan5 take your time with android |
| 13:42 |
Jordach |
!c 3^2 |
| 13:42 |
MinetestBot |
9 |
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sfan5 |
!c 2^3 |
| 13:42 |
MinetestBot |
8 |
| 13:42 |
sfan5 |
perfect! |
| 13:42 |
Leoneof |
!c 2+5 |
| 13:42 |
MinetestBot |
7 |
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PilzAdam |
!c 1+1 |
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MinetestBot |
2 |
| 13:42 |
PilzAdam |
wrong! its 10 |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
!c 3*4^8 |
| 13:43 |
MinetestBot |
196Â 608 |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, +1 for binary |
| 13:43 |
Leoneof |
how come |
| 13:43 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 13:43 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.292ms) |
| 13:43 |
Leoneof |
!help |
| 13:43 |
MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
| 13:43 |
Jordach |
Leoneof, MinetestBot does other thinks too |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
I'm gonna try Ubuntu later |
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rubenwardy |
!c 1/0 |
| 13:43 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:44 |
rubenwardy |
!c ans |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:44 |
JesseH |
jojoa1997|Tablet, When you do, contact me I can help you out. |
| 13:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
K |
| 13:44 |
rubenwardy |
!c sin(-10) |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
0.544021111 |
| 13:44 |
JesseH |
Been using ubuntu for a long while :P |
| 13:44 |
rubenwardy |
!c -5^-1 |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
-0.2 |
| 13:44 |
rubenwardy |
!c -5^-2 |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
-0.04 |
| 13:44 |
rubenwardy |
what is square route? |
| 13:44 |
Leoneof |
!c a+b |
| 13:44 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:45 |
markveidemanis |
!c ((3^10)*10)*(10*8^8) |
| 13:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I have decompressed the files in the download I got and will boot from USB |
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| 13:45 |
Jordach |
sfan5, https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/pull/1 |
| 13:45 |
rubenwardy |
!c ((3^10)*10)*(10*8^8) |
| 13:45 |
MinetestBot |
9.90677828 × 10^(13) |
| 13:45 |
JesseH |
jojoa1997|Tablet, You already have it on a usb? |
| 13:45 |
markveidemanis |
9.9067783e+13 |
| 13:45 |
markveidemanis |
close enough |
| 13:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Yeah but I am at school |
| 13:46 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: done |
| 13:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I just decompress it right |
| 13:46 |
Jordach |
sfan5, :P |
| 13:46 |
* sfan5 |
just tried to tab-complete done |
| 13:46 |
JesseH |
jojoa1997|Tablet, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ |
| 13:46 |
sfan5 |
*"done" |
| 13:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
And put the files o usb |
| 13:46 |
JesseH |
That worked out fine last time. |
| 13:46 |
* Jordach |
prefers installing over Windows |
| 13:46 |
JesseH |
Well it also worked with wine |
| 13:46 |
JesseH |
Jordach, That software is windows only me thinks |
| 13:47 |
Jordach |
JesseH, if anyone says Android is a OSS Linux Distro, I slap |
| 13:47 |
Jordach |
them* |
| 13:47 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 13:47 |
JesseH |
Good ole java |
| 13:47 |
JesseH |
:/ |
| 13:48 |
Jordach |
OSS Android is non Google components, eg, GPlay, GMAIL, etc |
| 13:48 |
Jordach |
which are not there. |
| 13:48 |
JesseH |
Well, What did you expect? lol |
| 13:48 |
Jordach |
Google Android is like the above, but with non-free components |
| 13:48 |
Jordach |
Cyranogen Mod is a good starting place |
| 13:48 |
* rubenwardy |
is wondering what to work on |
| 13:48 |
JesseH |
rubenwardy, A minetest mod? |
| 13:49 |
JesseH |
:D |
| 13:49 |
JesseH |
I am going to start on a mod later today me thinkz |
| 13:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Would this work with USB http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop |
| 13:49 |
JesseH |
You download your .iso, then use something to put it on the USB basically |
| 13:49 |
JesseH |
Make sure your USB is big enough. |
| 13:50 |
rubenwardy |
qwerty |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
JesseH, nope. |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
there's a tool by OpenSUSE to covert .iso's into Bootable USB Sticks |
| 13:51 |
rubenwardy |
potato! |
| 13:51 |
JesseH |
tomato |
| 13:51 |
JesseH |
tuh mah to |
| 13:51 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, at the end of this test, there will be cake. |
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JesseH |
yumm |
| 13:52 |
JesseH |
Do I get any? :D |
| 13:52 |
Jordach |
finish test 19 first |
| 13:52 |
JesseH |
:/ |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
14gb is god enough? |
| 13:52 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
It isn't :-\ |
| 13:52 |
JesseH |
jojoa1997|Tablet, its plenty lol |
| 13:52 |
sfan5 |
14gb |
| 13:52 |
sfan5 |
? |
| 13:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What do I need? |
| 13:53 |
JesseH |
:/ |
| 13:53 |
* Jordach |
uses a 16gb flash pen just for the Xbox360 |
| 13:54 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Would 4 GB work? |
| 13:55 |
JesseH |
yes |
| 13:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
OK good |
| 13:55 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Could I have other files on it? |
| 13:55 |
JesseH |
sure |
| 13:55 |
JesseH |
:P |
| 13:55 |
Jordach |
jojoa1997|Tablet, yes |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
provided they dont interfere with ubuntu |
| 13:56 |
* Jordach |
is turning into a help desk |
| 13:56 |
JesseH |
Do you have a bell? |
| 13:56 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Bell? |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
type "Jordach, PING!" and I'll be there |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
usually. |
| 13:57 |
JesseH |
One of those bells you press to get their attention |
| 13:57 |
JesseH |
lol |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 13:57 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
bullshit. |
| 13:57 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Gt cya |
| 13:57 |
* Jordach |
is connecting to it |
| 13:57 |
* Jordach |
is connecting to it |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
!up jordachscity.tk |
| 13:57 |
MinetestBot |
jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.178ms) |
| 13:59 |
JesseH |
why do we never get an answer |
| 13:59 |
JesseH |
when were knocking at the door |
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| 14:03 |
JesseH |
When you were young, and your heart was an open book |
| 14:04 |
JesseH |
you used to say live or let live |
| 14:04 |
JesseH |
you know you did you know you did |
| 14:04 |
JesseH |
♪ ♪v |
| 14:04 |
JesseH |
lol |
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| 14:10 |
Jordach |
uh oh, i over did the PulseAudio volume for Clementine... |
| 14:10 |
Jordach |
400% \o/ |
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* Jordach |
finished wool |
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Jordach |
hmmmm, i just found this strange world: http://i.imgur.com/jI0sWh6.png |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
noise based mountain on left, current V6 cliffs on right |
| 14:17 |
Jordach |
from 0.4-stable branch |
| 14:17 |
PilzAdam |
that looks like v6 |
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Jordach |
that's my problem: the noise on left looks like V7, but the cliffs state otherwise |
| 14:18 |
PilzAdam |
everything there looks like v6... |
| 14:19 |
VanessaE |
mornin' all |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
you should make a texture pack :P |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
that's not HDX |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/no-rage-face-1.jpg |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
NO. |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 14:21 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you drew the apple and mese texture, go do it |
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PilzAdam |
... both are horrible |
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* PilzAdam |
hides |
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VanessaE |
^^^ that is why |
| 14:22 |
Jordach |
bullshit. |
| 14:23 |
VanessaE |
no one likes my textures anyway so fuck it :) |
| 14:25 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, I've had some plans for a SVG Pack for a while |
| 14:25 |
Jordach |
(which of course they've been scaled down..) |
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Leoneof |
alex256 is here? :) |
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rubenwardy |
added http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/addreview.php |
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rubenwardy |
to create these: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/review.php?id=3 |
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markveidemanis |
I need some help with mesecons |
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rubenwardy |
... |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Sôooooœooooooooooooooooppo bored |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
SS |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
ß |
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rubenwardy |
potato! |
| 15:05 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Patato |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
So so so tired |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Need need need lunch |
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* jojoa1997|Tablet |
is a broken record record record player |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Some one needs to make another hammer |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
Game |
| 15:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Who plays realtest |
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rubenwardy |
spam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82477#p82477 |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
!up forum.minetest.net |
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MinetestBot |
forum.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.342ms) |
| 15:13 |
Leoneof |
!up |
| 15:13 |
MinetestBot |
Leoneof: Give me a Server Address |
| 15:13 |
Leoneof |
!up www.google.com |
| 15:13 |
MinetestBot |
www.google.com:30000 seems to be down |
| 15:14 |
Leoneof |
!up www.google.com:80 |
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MinetestBot |
Leoneof: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' |
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Leoneof |
!up www.google.com 80 |
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MinetestBot |
www.google.com:80 seems to be down |
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Leoneof |
good, google is down |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
!ping google.com |
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rubenwardy |
!ping Jordach |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
yes |
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rubenwardy |
A whole second! |
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Jordach |
rubenwardy, it should be low |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
we should un OP ChanServ |
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hylian |
how do i get a different biome? everytime i start, i get the same jungle with deep pits to a super deep ocean biome. I saw pics for desert and plains and stuff, is that available in c55? |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes |
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hylian |
so how do i access that option? starting screen of minetest does not give me the optiion. |
| 15:30 |
jojoa1997_Tablet |
just keep searching |
| 15:31 |
hylian |
so what you are saying is that all the biomes are on the same map? |
| 15:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
first time i landed i found a giant desert and didnt know there were other things |
| 15:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes |
| 15:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
have you changed minetest.conf |
| 15:32 |
hylian |
no i have not |
| 15:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok what version do you have |
| 15:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
and the three biomes in minetest are forest, plain, and oceon |
| 15:33 |
hylian |
i have c55 |
| 15:34 |
hylian |
are there any towns with friendlies like mc? |
| 15:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
first it is minetest |
| 15:34 |
hylian |
i know. |
| 15:34 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
second what version is it? |
| 15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
0.4.6? |
| 15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
0.4.5? |
| 15:35 |
rubenwardy |
0.3.1? |
| 15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
pre-release? |
| 15:35 |
hylian |
ohh, i don't know. I am running ubuntu 12.04 lts, and I just installed what was available via apt-get. |
| 15:35 |
rubenwardy |
It will say in the top left of the screen |
| 15:35 |
rubenwardy |
when you run it |
| 15:35 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
like "Minetest-0.x.x" |
| 15:36 |
hylian |
it says 0.3.1 |
| 15:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
oh |
| 15:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
well heres current biomes |
| 15:36 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Biomes |
| 15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
and deserts were not add until 0.4 |
| 15:37 |
hylian |
should i get a newer version of mt? |
| 15:37 |
rubenwardy |
yes, definitely |
| 15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
YES |
| 15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
we are at 0.4.6 |
| 15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://minetest.net/download.php |
| 15:37 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
there there are official downloads and |
| 15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
we have deserts, diamonds, bronze, gold, copper, and obsidian |
| 15:38 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
though unlike minecraft we have obsidian glass |
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hylian |
thanks for the help! |
| 15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
your welcome |
| 15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
better yet |
| 15:42 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
with 0.4.x you can have mods |
| 15:42 |
celeron55 |
you need one from here, but nobody can tell which one without the specifics of your system: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages |
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celeron55 |
this if 32-bit, https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+files/minetestc55_0.4.6-0ppa1%7Eprecise1_i386.deb or this if 64bit: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+files/minetestc55_0.4.6-0ppa1%7Eprecise1_amd64.deb |
| 15:43 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
why do linux users need packages |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
celeron55 what os do you use? |
| 15:44 |
celeron55 |
or you could add the PPA to your package manager and do it that way, google about that |
| 15:44 |
celeron55 |
(i don't even know how that exactly works) |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet: he uses debian and arch |
| 15:44 |
Calinou |
and windows xp in a vm :p |
| 15:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i mean you |
| 15:44 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
oh ok |
| 15:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
every other os should processstuff like windows when it comes to packages |
| 15:45 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i just download and place and i dont have to worry about not having multiple copies |
| 15:45 |
Calinou |
you can do that |
| 15:46 |
celeron55 |
you can make such packages on linux too, but it isn't really recommended and isn't the default, and isn't that easy |
| 15:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
if i install ubuntu on a live usb |
| 15:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
run it |
| 15:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
do i have to have a different version of minetest |
| 15:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
also i plan on using wine |
| 15:47 |
Calinou |
just make a package with the source and bundle a binary, celeron55? |
| 15:47 |
Calinou |
sauerbraten and red eclipse both do that |
| 15:47 |
Calinou |
you extract the .tar.bz2, install SDL and run the start script |
| 15:47 |
Calinou |
(the most complicated part is well, install SDL, and it is poorly documented) |
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celeron55 |
Calinou: you need to build the binary against an old enough glibc and other libraries |
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* Jordach |
thinks jojoa should not interfere with linux |
| 15:48 |
celeron55 |
it will only work on as old system as you build it on, not older |
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* Menche |
thinks actual packages are more convenient |
| 15:48 |
Jordach |
yeah, apt-get install makes life SO MUCH EASIER |
| 15:48 |
celeron55 |
Menche: they really aren't, because you need a ton of them |
| 15:48 |
celeron55 |
Menche: check that launchpad page i linked to |
| 15:48 |
celeron55 |
it has 6 packages for 0.4.6 |
| 15:48 |
celeron55 |
all are needed |
| 15:49 |
Calinou |
blame debian packages team |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
i am only using ubuntu to bypass some things |
| 15:49 |
Calinou |
soon the creative mode will be a separate package |
| 15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
? |
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hylian |
man, the difference is night and day. thanks again. |
| 15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
what a new mod? |
| 15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
also |
| 15:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
there are 3d players faster gen |
| 15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
wanna know all the new stuff? |
| 15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
here http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Version_History |
| 15:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
gtg cya |
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rubenwardy1 |
ffs |
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Calinou |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog |
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Calinou |
:| he left |
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khonkhortisan |
cool, I got in the changelog |
| 16:04 |
Leoneof |
where's alex256 ? :) |
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Leoneof |
oh hello alex256 ! |
| 16:09 |
Leoneof |
did you find a tree? lol |
| 16:09 |
alex256 |
i thought of something useful....editable arrow signs that the player can mark his way out of a mine with. |
| 16:09 |
alex256 |
yes |
| 16:09 |
alex256 |
and hi |
| 16:10 |
Leoneof |
<--Testing99 :) |
| 16:10 |
alex256 |
ahhhh... |
| 16:12 |
alex256 |
the sign says "this way out "and gives the player the option of which way the arrow points. |
| 16:13 |
alex256 |
simple but would be usefull |
| 16:14 |
Leoneof |
brb |
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alex256 |
i guess no one thought my idea was good..... |
| 16:20 |
Menche |
arrow signs? i like it |
| 16:20 |
khonkhortisan |
But you can do almost that with regular signs |
| 16:20 |
Menche |
by writing "-->" to it? |
| 16:20 |
alex256 |
yea i guess you are right ...nm |
| 16:21 |
Menche |
signs don't show the text unless you look at them; arrow-shaped signs would be easier |
| 16:21 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
alex256: Good idea! |
| 16:21 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Do it on Lua ^^ |
| 16:21 |
alex256 |
thanks |
| 16:22 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Can you do it yourself on lua? |
| 16:22 |
alex256 |
i have no coding experience.....just ideas... |
| 16:23 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Hm... |
| 16:23 |
Menche |
just copy the default sign code and change the texture and name |
| 16:23 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Menche: Hm... no |
| 16:23 |
Menche |
? |
| 16:23 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Player must chose where will the arrow look... |
| 16:23 |
alex256 |
the arrow pointing script would be the one that would frustrate me ... |
| 16:24 |
Menche |
make the sign rotate on punch? |
| 16:24 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Hm |
| 16:24 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
to 6 directions? |
| 16:25 |
Menche |
6? 4. |
| 16:25 |
alex256 |
or talk aboutit enough so someone steals my idea : P |
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alex256 |
no just up,down ,left and right |
| 16:26 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
alex256: But into deep and to the camera??) |
| 16:26 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Sorry... I just don't know how to say it in english |
| 16:26 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Like the faces of cube... |
| 16:26 |
alex256 |
tyea |
| 16:27 |
alex256 |
yea ...sorry for the t...its a habit.. |
| 16:27 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
alex256: What it tyea? |
| 16:29 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
TyeA, a third protein involved in the control of Yop release??)) |
| 16:29 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
I have founded it in google( |
| 16:29 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
Guyyys... |
| 16:29 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
What is tyea |
| 16:29 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
??? |
| 16:30 |
alex256 |
a typo...it was supposed to be yea but because of gaming habits i pressed t first....lol |
| 16:32 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
)) |
| 16:32 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
ty |
| 16:32 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
I am just wanna sleep... |
| 16:32 |
TTChangeTheWorld |
I understand nothing now) |
| 16:33 |
alex256 |
lol |
| 16:38 |
Menche |
my server says it's "announcing to servers.minetest.net", but it doesn't show up |
| 16:38 |
ShadowNinja |
Menche: make sure the serverlist can ping you |
| 16:39 |
Menche |
pretty sure it can |
| 16:40 |
ShadowNinja |
is the address set correctly? |
| 16:41 |
Menche |
yes, it's all set the same |
| 16:41 |
ShadowNinja |
!up menche.servegame.com |
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MinetestBot |
menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.368ms) |
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ShadowNinja |
21 clients on zeg9's server? |
| 16:44 |
ShadowNinja |
Menche: what does your conf look like |
| 16:44 |
alex256 |
....server_announce 1....is set in the minetest.confright? |
| 16:44 |
Menche |
yes |
| 16:44 |
Menche |
the config is exactly the same as when it was working earlier |
| 16:44 |
alex256 |
hmmm....? |
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alex256 |
you may have 2 minetest.conf files conflicting with each other...had that prob the other day.....o |
| 16:46 |
Menche |
i only have 1 |
| 16:46 |
alex256 |
ok |
| 16:46 |
Menche |
it's a systemwide install |
| 16:47 |
alex256 |
linux? |
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paxcoder |
VanessaE? |
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alex256 |
i had a minetest.conf hiding in /user/share/minetest/games |
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* sfan5 |
has made a working (not complete) brainfuck cpu in logisim |
| 16:49 |
rubenwardy |
minetest.conf is the setttings for that particular game, if it is in /user/share/minetest/games/<name> |
| 16:50 |
alex256 |
right i forgot the /minetest folder in games ..thanks for correcting me |
| 16:50 |
Menche |
only have 1 config file |
| 16:51 |
celeron55 |
if a game minetest.conf and the user's minetest.conf both have a setting, the user's one will always be used |
| 16:51 |
Menche |
and i can verify the settings using /set in-game |
| 16:51 |
Menche |
on startup it said that it was announcing to servers.minetest.net |
| 16:52 |
alex256 |
the version i had the other day was mising the commons folder and when i edited my minetest.conf for singleplayer it overwrot the one in the share folder....wierd its only happened once |
| 16:53 |
alex256 |
i manually installed my minetest....so wierd stuff happens to me alot |
| 16:57 |
alex256 |
run the server from a terminal and see if it says announcing to servers.minetest.net |
| 16:57 |
Menche |
it does |
| 16:57 |
alex256 |
that is wierd.... |
| 16:59 |
celeron55 |
is the server actually accessible from the internet? |
| 16:59 |
celeron55 |
servers.minetest.net won't list it if it isn't |
| 16:59 |
Menche |
!up menche.servegame.com 30000 |
| 16:59 |
MinetestBot |
menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.503ms) |
| 17:00 |
markveidemanis |
I need help with digilines on 86.133.49.153 |
| 17:00 |
Menche |
it is |
| 17:00 |
alex256 |
i can join it but it does't show up in the public.... |
| 17:01 |
alex256 |
that is wierd.....dont know how you could fix that issue? |
| 17:01 |
Menche |
can verify with /set that the settings are right |
| 17:02 |
alex256 |
have you tried to restart your server to see if that works? |
| 17:02 |
Menche |
3 times |
| 17:02 |
alex256 |
crap |
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celeron55 |
Menche: do you have server_address set correctly in minetest.conf? |
| 17:03 |
Pest |
sup, guys. How can i install Mobs mod on ubuntu server? |
| 17:03 |
alex256 |
it should be blank right |
| 17:03 |
Menche |
server_address = menche.servegame.com |
| 17:03 |
Pest |
following wiki instructions doesnt work |
| 17:03 |
celeron55 |
i think it should work if server_address is correct and server_announce is set to 1... dunno then |
| 17:04 |
Menche |
Pest: is minetest installed system-wide? and what game are you using? |
| 17:04 |
alex256 |
try making it blank...see what that does? |
| 17:04 |
celeron55 |
alex256: of course it won't work; then the master server obviously cannot connect to it |
| 17:05 |
Menche |
server_announce = 1, serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net |
| 17:05 |
sokomine |
pest: and which version of mobs do you want to install? there are several mods that add mobs |
| 17:06 |
celeron55 |
Pest: there are roughly 3 wikis, you may want to link the specific page |
| 17:06 |
celeron55 |
Pest: and please tell how does it not work, there are million ways for that to happen |
| 17:06 |
alex256 |
yes but doesn't it re_write the server address when you restart...i always just leave mine blank. |
| 17:07 |
* Menche |
had problems with the server overwriting it all the time |
| 17:07 |
Pest |
so... let me see how to explain. I just unpacked deb in Windows and via FTP put it on server |
| 17:07 |
Menche |
so i made the minetest.conf readonly |
| 17:07 |
Pest |
then i just start minetestserver |
| 17:07 |
sokomine |
celeron: there's a strange fps drop on menches server. if i stay in/close to my house there (admittedly using a lot of stairplus-nodeboxes but overall beeing a rather small house), fps drop drasticly from 15-20 (15 would be expected value with many nodeboxes around) to 0-3. walking away from that location for a few seconds helps recover the framerate |
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sokomine |
pest: are you completely new to the game or are you a bit familiar with it? |
| 17:08 |
alex256 |
deb is not for windows..its for debian |
| 17:09 |
Pest |
i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive |
| 17:09 |
Menche |
Pest: you unpacked the deb on windows? you should FTP the deb to the server and install with dpkg -i |
| 17:09 |
Pest |
well, i never use easiest way=) |
| 17:09 |
Menche |
i know, but were all the files installed correctly? debs are supposed to be installed with dpkg -i [deb file] |
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Pest |
in user/Minetest just 2 folders: bin and share |
| 17:11 |
Pest |
i think, thats not all |
| 17:11 |
Pest |
but server works... somehow |
| 17:11 |
Menche |
and what game mode were you running |
| 17:11 |
Pest |
minetest |
| 17:11 |
Menche |
you put the mod in ~/.minetest/mods/minetest ? |
| 17:11 |
Pest |
yep |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
wait |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
no, not in root |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
user spavce |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
space* |
| 17:12 |
alex256 |
..... |
| 17:12 |
Menche |
"~" means your home directory |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
sry |
| 17:12 |
Menche |
so, /home/[your name]/.minetest/mods/minetest |
| 17:12 |
Pest |
exactly |
| 17:13 |
Menche |
what is in /usr/share/minetest/games ? |
| 17:14 |
* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
| 17:15 |
Pest |
common, minetest_game, minimal |
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Jordach |
NotReallyNick, morning, afternoon |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
are there any more mods like digilines |
| 17:16 |
Menche |
Pest: what version are you using? how did you start the serve? |
| 17:16 |
Menche |
*server |
| 17:16 |
alex256 |
why didn't he just get the windows version if he has windows? |
| 17:17 |
Pest |
0.4.6. Most dumbest way-- /mc/minetestserver--->Enter |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
(6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive |
| 17:17 |
Pest |
because of curiosity |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
woops |
| 17:18 |
Menche |
does the server run? |
| 17:18 |
Pest |
yeah |
| 17:18 |
Menche |
does it show the big ascii-art "Minetest"? |
| 17:19 |
alex256 |
if you started it from a console it would be /minetestserver --worldname <name> |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
./minetestserver * |
| 17:19 |
* Jordach |
is a picky cunt5 |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
-5 |
| 17:20 |
alex256 |
or in my case # minetestserver --worldname <name> |
| 17:20 |
Pest |
yes, and i able to connect it |
| 17:20 |
Menche |
try adding "--gameid minetest" |
| 17:21 |
Pest |
tnx for wasting time helping me =) |
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| 17:22 |
Menche |
another thing to help test, add print("mobs started") to the beginning of the mod's init.lua |
| 17:22 |
Menche |
then "mobs started" should be printed when the server is started |
| 17:22 |
Menche |
(to the console) |
| 17:22 |
alex256 |
is there a game.conf in the usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/ |
| 17:23 |
alex256 |
i had a deb version that didn't have one thats why i was asking |
| 17:24 |
Menche |
also, run the in-game command "/mods" and see if that mod is listed |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
(6:20:26 PM) Menche: try adding "--gameid minetest" |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
Pest: he was being serious |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
(6:21:08 PM) Pest: tnx for wasting time helping me =) |
| 17:25 |
Pest |
hm |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
game id is the game to use in the root/minetest/game/game name |
| 17:25 |
Pest |
i meaned: thanks that you spend a time and help me |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
oot/minetest/game/minetest_game is "minetest" |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
oh ok |
| 17:25 |
Pest |
=) |
| 17:27 |
Pest |
[21:17:11] <rubenwardy> (6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive |
| 17:27 |
Pest |
[21:17:43] <rubenwardy> woops |
| 17:28 |
Pest |
dunno, if i got you correct. But PeaZip opens deb files as well |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
(6:08:25 PM) sokomine: pest: are you completely new to the game or are you a bit familiar with it? |
| 17:28 |
Pest |
new |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
I got mixed up with my log history scroll |
| 17:28 |
alex256 |
i like that someone added the survival_game |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
I thought that was after (6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive |
| 17:29 |
Pest |
now i completelly messed up=) |
| 17:29 |
Pest |
nwm |
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alex256 |
i didn't know linux executable files were compatable with windows......guess i should learn more about windows |
| 17:33 |
Jordach |
alex256, NOPE |
| 17:34 |
Jordach |
cygwin or GTFO |
| 17:34 |
alex256 |
i would recommend him getting the windows minetest.zip from http://minetest.net/download.php |
| 17:34 |
alex256 |
probably would be less frustrating for him.... |
| 17:35 |
Jordach |
alex256, you have 10 seconds to answer this question: 1+1=10, (other IRC users, please dont say anything and NO GOOGLING.) |
| 17:36 |
Exio |
pls |
| 17:36 |
alex256 |
i give up i thought it was 2 |
| 17:36 |
Exio |
binary |
| 17:36 |
* Jordach |
dislikes people WHO THINK THEY KNOW BASIC Computer Science |
| 17:37 |
Jordach |
bbiab |
| 17:37 |
alex256 |
ahh 0 is off and 1 is on the only 2 nombers that matter... |
| 17:37 |
alex256 |
numbers |
| 17:37 |
* Jordach |
claps sarcastically |
| 17:38 |
alex256 |
i dont know anything i dont know how to code...troubleshooting is the only thing i am decent at |
| 17:40 |
alex256 |
i haven't done any programing since the commodore vic 20...lol...and yes i am serious |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, Moontest map makes progress: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81087#p81087 |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
Im glad to be listed as a contributor |
| 17:43 |
alex256 |
10 blah blah blah 20 blah blah 30 print blah blah 40 run....i dont miss it a bit |
| 17:45 |
alex256 |
i spent 2 weeks writing a pong program and when i typed 1000000 run a ball bounced back and forth on the screen ....but i didn't have any paddles |
| 17:45 |
alex256 |
thus my programming day were over lol |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
Jordach: only stock intel fans can clap sarcastically. |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
you aren't allowed to do so unless you have a CPU with SarClap technology |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
Calinou, intel cpu here |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
(found on i3 and i7s, but not i5s) |
| 17:52 |
RealBadAngel |
there are 10 kinds of ppl, those who understand binary and those who dont :) |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
i see what you did there |
| 17:53 |
Leoneof |
10 print blah 20 goto 10 |
| 17:53 |
alex256 |
wel i have piece of crap self built comp with puppy linux so i guess what i say is pure meaningless rubbish... |
| 17:53 |
Leoneof |
that's BASIC, eww |
| 17:53 |
Calinou |
Leoneof Leoneof; new Leoneof |
| 17:54 |
Leoneof |
dont! |
| 17:54 |
alex256 |
yeah i know right...i hated basic |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
C you later |
| 17:56 |
alex256 |
i dont claim to be some computer wiz....so i hope no one dislikes me .... |
| 17:57 |
Leoneof |
you're still cutie |
| 17:57 |
alex256 |
rotfl |
| 18:00 |
Leoneof |
:) |
| 18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, C++ you later ;) |
| 18:02 |
alex256 |
i just manhandled the newest ubuntu precise minetest release into puppy ... seems to be working....i am just going to roll with it. |
| 18:04 |
alex256 |
things would be much easier if i knew exactly what i was doing |
| 18:07 |
alex256 |
next i am going to try do it in tiny core see if that works...... |
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STHGOM |
cya |
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| 18:10 |
alex256 |
go hang a salami im a lasagna hog....spells the same thing backwards...now thats funny |
| 18:13 |
alex256 |
that program is wierd |
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| 18:13 |
alex256 |
a generic fruity loops |
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alex256 |
i take it you are a musician John? |
| 18:15 |
onpon4 |
Out of curiosity, with the libraries Minetest currently uses, is it possible for it to detect joysticks? |
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| 18:16 |
alex256 |
you would need a gamepad profiler of some kind. i think it might work... |
| 18:17 |
alex256 |
you would have to map the keys ....shouldn't be that hard though |
| 18:18 |
onpon4 |
alex256: So, if I wanted to add gamepad support, what would I want to use? |
| 18:18 |
alex256 |
what os are you on |
| 18:19 |
onpon4 |
Oh, I could map keys with joy2key easily enough, but I'm wondering about adding actual gamepad support to Minetest. |
| 18:20 |
onpon4 |
Would something Minetest already uses be suitable for the job, or would another dependency need to be added? |
| 18:20 |
alex256 |
err i have no idea then...i will keep quite |
| 18:21 |
Exio |
no idea how irrlicht handes the stuff |
| 18:21 |
Exio |
handles* |
| 18:21 |
ShadowNinja |
alex256: could you please add fast to default privs on your server? |
| 18:24 |
Hwkiller |
if only irrlicht spoke SDL |
| 18:26 |
onpon4 |
Would it be possible to use SDL alongside Irrlicht, or do they conflict? |
| 18:26 |
Hwkiller |
? irrlicht would just need to use the SDL libs |
| 18:27 |
Hwkiller |
apparently sdl2's input handling is sexy, but I don't know |
| 18:27 |
Hwkiller |
I heard that from some devs on #steamlug |
| 18:29 |
Hwkiller |
is there a way to map inventory to "mouse4" ? |
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Traxie21 |
Where is minetest.conf in 0.4.6? |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
same as every version since 0.2 |
| 18:38 |
Traxie21 |
I started my server, and there is no minetest.conf, and when I added one, nothing changes |
| 18:38 |
Traxie21 |
I'm in a drastic hurry too. |
| 18:38 |
PilzAdam |
you need to create it when the server isnt running |
| 18:39 |
Menche |
~/.minetest/minetest.conf |
| 18:39 |
Traxie21 |
Menche, portable install |
| 18:39 |
Menche |
oh, then just in the minetest folder |
| 18:40 |
Traxie21 |
nvm, working now |
| 18:41 |
Traxie21 |
Btw, I run ubuntu from a USB stick now :D |
| 18:41 |
Traxie21 |
Still working out the kinks |
| 18:42 |
Traxie21 |
barf |
| 18:42 |
alex256 |
puppy is better jusy my oppinion... |
| 18:42 |
alex256 |
from a usb that is |
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| 18:43 |
Leoneof |
why linux is scaring you, because you can't install on your hdd? |
| 18:43 |
mauvebic |
and i thought the toilet was learning to talk - turns out the sewers backed up :( |
| 18:43 |
Traxie21 |
Leoneof, My computer is owned by someone else, my boss to be exact, and he dosn't want me messing with it |
| 18:43 |
Traxie21 |
I hvae a 32GB USB now, and it seems to wrk fine |
| 18:44 |
alex256 |
i have ubuntu,mint ,puppy,tango studio,and fedora..on my 3 hdds |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
and you use windows? |
| 18:45 |
alex256 |
fruga on the puppy work better than the other os's |
| 18:45 |
alex256 |
frugal |
| 18:45 |
alex256 |
i do not use windows any more |
| 18:45 |
Traxie21 |
I don't use windows... anymore XD |
| 18:45 |
Traxie21 |
since the last 10 minutes |
| 18:46 |
alex256 |
seriously try the new puppy distro on a usb..it is way faster than ubuntu |
| 18:47 |
alex256 |
takes a minute to get used to but its worth it |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
oh hai Traxie21 :P |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
and bye (dinner) |
| 18:47 |
Traxie21 |
Yeah, but I want ubuntu for full-fledged things, eg java, minetest, pie, pie, youtube, pie. |
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| 18:47 |
Traxie21 |
bai |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
btw, you should put some maptools:nobuild around your spawn to keep people from placing lava |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
on sunrisetest |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 18:47 |
alex256 |
i have java and all the other stuff on my puppy |
| 18:48 |
Traxie21 |
I know cal XD |
| 18:48 |
Menche |
still not on the server list... |
| 18:48 |
alex256 |
i can even play shhh....minecraft on it...if i want to'''' |
| 18:48 |
Leoneof |
i don't use Windowz |
| 18:48 |
Traxie21 |
Whats not on serverlist? |
| 18:48 |
Menche |
my server |
| 18:48 |
Traxie21 |
alex, I'll consider puppy, but I don't wnat to install something else today, i gtg soon |
| 18:49 |
Menche |
it says it is announcing but doesn't show up |
| 18:49 |
Traxie21 |
@Menche, did you compile with c |
| 18:49 |
Traxie21 |
URL? |
| 18:49 |
alex256 |
its only 200 mbs |
| 18:49 |
Menche |
yes. |
| 18:49 |
Traxie21 |
ok, your ping may be kinda slow |
| 18:49 |
Menche |
it was working yesterday, with the same config |
| 18:49 |
Traxie21 |
My server is still on the serverlist, and its down :P |
| 18:53 |
Menche |
oh, think i see the problem |
| 18:53 |
Menche |
yay it's on |
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| 18:54 |
Traxie21 |
Woot |
| 18:54 |
Traxie21 |
Have to go in 1 min, copying files for 4 mins :C |
| 18:54 |
alex256 |
what was the culprit? |
| 18:57 |
alex256 |
later everyone |
| 18:57 |
Traxie21 |
Hurrrrrryyyy up..... |
| 18:57 |
Traxie21 |
bai |
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mauvebic |
this picture: http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/518728887-11.jpg?w=940 |
| 19:16 |
mauvebic |
lol |
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| 19:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
who runs ubuntu from a live uwsb |
| 19:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
usb |
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| 19:22 |
JesseH |
ive figured it out |
| 19:22 |
JesseH |
we need planes in Minetest |
| 19:22 |
JesseH |
:D |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
jesseh |
| 19:23 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i am trying to boot ubuntu from usb |
| 19:23 |
JesseH |
hi |
| 19:23 |
JesseH |
okay |
| 19:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
can you help |
| 19:24 |
JesseH |
doesn't seem like I can |
| 19:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
you said ask earlier |
| 19:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
oh ok |
| 19:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
or i think it was you |
| 19:24 |
JesseH |
Yep it was |
| 19:25 |
JesseH |
What is the issue? |
| 19:25 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
it wont boot |
| 19:25 |
JesseH |
You're going to have to be more specific |
| 19:25 |
JesseH |
also a lot of pros are in #ubuntu |
| 19:25 |
JesseH |
just don't swear, or youll be banned xD |
| 19:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i have it boot the |
| 19:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
nvm |
| 19:26 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 19:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i dont really need it and it will just get me in trouble from my mom |
| 19:26 |
JesseH |
sorry I couldnt be of more assistance |
| 19:26 |
JesseH |
meh |
| 19:26 |
JesseH |
If she don't like linux, she isn't helping you at all |
| 19:26 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 19:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
no it is complicated |
| 19:27 |
JesseH |
Oh :( |
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JesseH |
someone needs to host a little server for me to play on xD |
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Calinou |
hi :p |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
happy birthday minetest 0.4_20120408 |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
(and c-fifty-five's server by the way) |
| 19:40 |
JesseH |
\o/ |
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| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
w00t |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
2 fucking thousand! |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82554#p82554 |
| 19:42 |
* Calinou |
watches the new red eclipse trailer |
| 19:42 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, your last post was "lol" :P |
| 19:46 |
Hwkiller |
finally found lava for the first time |
| 19:46 |
Hwkiller |
awesome |
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| 19:46 |
Calinou |
/teleport 0,-500,0 |
| 19:47 |
Calinou |
hello tablet user: jojoa1997|Tablet |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Home finally hi |
| 19:47 |
* Calinou |
starts a debate about the usefulness of 7" tablets |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
For or against? |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
:-) |
| 19:47 |
Calinou |
against >:D |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Why |
| 19:47 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Wait |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Let me tell you why good |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
For my side |
| 19:48 |
* Calinou |
still has his ipad 1 lying around: 2.5 years and still works |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
browsing the minecraft wiki around with it == weird |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
and you do NOT want to edit articles |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Well it is good for me cause |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
..... |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
..... |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
really, I've did that for months back in 2011 :P for the lols |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I do and |
| 19:48 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
.... |
| 19:48 |
Leoneof |
. |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
bloody hell |
| 19:48 |
* Calinou |
leaves |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I can use this in school |
| 19:49 |
Leoneof |
anyone have home in minetest? :) |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
It is like a computer from home except |
| 19:49 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I can't play minetest with it |
| 19:49 |
Hwkiller |
http://i.imgur.com/eW5ek96.png beautiful |
| 19:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Also I have a Bluetooth keyboard so I can type fast |
| 19:50 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Has anyone thought of having an in browser minetest for chrome |
| 19:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Well..... |
| 19:53 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Anyone? |
| 19:53 |
Leoneof |
mojojojo |
| 19:54 |
mojojojo |
Lol registered |
| 19:55 |
Leoneof |
it was nice |
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sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: yes |
| 19:58 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What |
| 19:58 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Is it compiled? |
| 19:58 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
=-O |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
<jojoa1997|Tablet> [01:50:44] Has anyone thought of having an in browser minetest for chrome |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
let me find the link again.. |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
Hwkiller, -1 for unity/netflix |
| 19:59 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
What link |
| 19:59 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Someone made it |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
<Hwkiller> http://i.imgur.com/eW5ek96.png beautiful |
| 19:59 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
:-* |
| 19:59 |
Calinou |
-10000 for farheinheit/12 hour system, too |
| 20:00 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82389#p82389 |
| 20:00 |
sfan5 |
Y U NO READ YER OWN TOPICS? |
| 20:00 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I did |
| 20:01 |
mauvebic |
farheinheit, who the fuck still uses that? lol |
| 20:01 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I do |
| 20:01 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
More accurate than celcius |
| 20:01 |
mauvebic |
most of the world is on metric |
| 20:01 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: chrome supported c++? wtf?! |
| 20:01 |
mauvebic |
well, the bits that matter anyways |
| 20:01 |
sfan5 |
*supports |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet, kelvin are more accurate then |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
or just use NotchUnit temperature |
| 20:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
That is what I use |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
0.1 NotchUnit = 0 degrees |
| 20:02 |
* Traxie21 |
dosn't mind XUbuntu as much as she thought she would. |
| 20:02 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
kills Calinou |
| 20:02 |
* Traxie21 |
still prefers Unity. |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
0.151652 NotchUnits = 25.2 degrees |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
xubuntu? |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
HIGH FIVE! |
| 20:02 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Ahh too many tabs |
| 20:03 |
Traxie21 |
The only thing I don't really like is the lack of tabs in the file browser |
| 20:03 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Calinou I tried to get it working |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
unity is ok, game performance ahs improved a lot these days |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
Traxie21, a thunar update brought tabs recently, it might come in 13.04 |
| 20:03 |
Traxie21 |
Thunar is actually kinda pretty :3 |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
but any non-composited WM beats unity in gaming perf |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
it is 8) |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
greybird without compositing is fugly :| |
| 20:03 |
sfan5 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82572#p82572 http://v.gd/OLhUDj |
| 20:04 |
Traxie21 |
The dock at the bottom is annoying, just noticed it |
| 20:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Scan when I said thought I meant made |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
Traxie21, go to "panel" preferences, select panel 2, remove |
| 20:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Sfan4 |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
^ what I first do after installing xubuntu |
| 20:04 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Lol OK can't type |
| 20:04 |
mauvebic |
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/04/08/193223/linux-fatware-distros-that-need-to-slim-down?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter |
| 20:04 |
mauvebic |
lol fatware |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
slashdot, worse than phoronix since 2007® |
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| 20:05 |
mauvebic |
better than reddit |
| 20:05 |
sfan5 |
reddit!! |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
which is worse than 4chan |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
but 4chan is always better than jojoa1997|Tablet |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
but he is worse than mauvebic... |
| 20:05 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Why |
| 20:05 |
mauvebic |
ive never seen such a fugly site since the yahoo homepage of 95 |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
dammit; too much logic |
| 20:05 |
* Calinou |
killed himself. |
| 20:06 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
O:-) |
| 20:06 |
mauvebic |
lol and the article proceeds to cite ubuntu as an example to follow lol |
| 20:06 |
sfan5 |
john has 5 apples; a squirrel dies; why did Calinou suicide? |
| 20:07 |
Traxie21 |
I wish people could spell on the Forums |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
^ jojoa1997|Tablet |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
gabe newell steals the apples and the dead squirrel |
| 20:07 |
Traxie21 |
Seriously, I cannot tell what the hell Likwid is saying, and his IQ seems all ove rthe place |
| 20:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Because he never bought a Bluetooth keyboard for his tablet |
| 20:07 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So he wasted a year doing the impossible |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
Traxie21, +1, but it is impossible to correct the spelling of every post, sadly :) |
| 20:08 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Yeah |
| 20:08 |
mauvebic |
why likwid is around at all baffles me lol |
| 20:08 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Also he posts me^5 |
| 20:08 |
Traxie21 |
I make spelling mistakes, but Likqid seems to think the the English language is like... slaughtering a cow |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
you just misspelled likwid :P |
| 20:08 |
mauvebic |
What do you think of calling my ocean 'Sea 55' ? |
| 20:08 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Lol |
| 20:08 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Lol yes |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, rotfl |
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| 20:09 |
Traxie21 |
*Likwid |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
new signature get! |
| 20:09 |
Traxie21 |
Fuck it |
| 20:09 |
Traxie21 |
*liquid |
| 20:09 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
!!!!!!! https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/612 !!!!!! |
| 20:09 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I WANT THIS NOW |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: tell that the guys in ..-dev |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
get the branch, compile it, write a dummy mod that will use it, ???, profit |
| 20:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I did |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
actually.. Calinou is right |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
sfan5, I asked /dev, people like tty18, ram15 or null replied to me |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
they all said weird things. |
| 20:10 |
Traxie21 |
Jojoa, I so want that too, but everyone wants a finally system |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
but null said nothing! |
| 20:10 |
Traxie21 |
*final system |
| 20:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Pilzadam I need you |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
busy |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
jojoa1997|Tablet: well... then you learned, that not everything you want happens |
| 20:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I want to sleep |
| 20:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Fine |
| 20:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I want death |
| 20:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Too bad I can't get what I want |
| 20:11 |
mauvebic |
theres like, 2-3 pull requests for luajit, whats up with that? |
| 20:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Muwhahahaha |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
"/dev/fb0.... can i access facebook using that ? -a windows noob with linux" |
| 20:12 |
JesseH |
Anyone started any other games with the minetest engine? |
| 20:12 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Yes |
| 20:12 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Minecraft |
| 20:12 |
Traxie21 |
Minitest, Dwarves, etc. |
| 20:12 |
* Menche |
has started on one but it's barely functional |
| 20:13 |
* Calinou |
has an unfinished attempt of minecraft_like around |
| 20:13 |
JesseH |
Shows meh |
| 20:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Minecraft-Minitest |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
JesseH, meh, no |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
it's very outdated too |
| 20:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Nope |
| 20:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
I updated it |
| 20:14 |
Traxie21 |
That moment when you have to go, and the permissions system on your server breaks... |
| 20:14 |
mauvebic |
speaking of outdated, i went over to linux game tome since its going down, and the minetest page was reallllly outdated lol |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
>linux gaming sites |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
>up to date |
| 20:14 |
Traxie21 |
LOL |
| 20:14 |
Traxie21 |
LOOOOL |
| 20:14 |
Traxie21 |
>Error, unknown command |
| 20:14 |
mauvebic |
i have no idea which one is tops lol linux game tome was the first show up in googles tho |
| 20:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
So... |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
why lol :P |
| 20:15 |
JesseH |
Maybe I should just use the forums for this kind of info :((( |
| 20:15 |
Menche |
debian package is still 0.3.1 :( |
| 20:16 |
Menche |
even in "sid" |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
hey, this is debian |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
update me maybe |
| 20:16 |
Traxie21 |
sudo apt-get install brain |
| 20:16 |
Traxie21 |
>Error: unable to locate package brain in current software sources |
| 20:17 |
Menche |
so i suppose there's zero chance of a more recent minetest in debian 7.0 |
| 20:17 |
Menche |
as it's frozen |
| 20:17 |
Traxie21 |
Likwid somecomputer-x60: sudo apt-get install spelling-basic |
| 20:17 |
mauvebic |
this is gonna be an epic sea: been filling chunks for 3 days |
| 20:17 |
Traxie21 |
Error: Unable to install package, incompatable system |
| 20:17 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
La |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
Traxie21, likwid with a lenovo laptop? nope. |
| 20:17 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Lalu |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
he'd probably have an acer laptop :P |
| 20:18 |
Traxie21 |
I has lenovo |
| 20:18 |
Traxie21 |
and I hate it |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
Menche, yep, that's debian |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
weird |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
most lenovo users are die-hard lenovo fanboys, see reddit :P |
| 20:18 |
Menche |
he made a map and credited c55 for making minetest :P |
| 20:18 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Who has seen Star wars |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
that made me rofl, Menche :P |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet, not me |
| 20:19 |
Menche |
"{Yes I know you didn't help C55 but I love using you for alot of things :) }" |
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| 20:19 |
* Menche |
wonders if we've made fun of likwid enough here :P |
| 20:19 |
mauvebic |
naw, lets make fun of his manhood and question his virility |
| 20:19 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 20:20 |
mauvebic |
(just kidding) |
| 20:20 |
mauvebic |
dont even know if its a guy |
| 20:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Wow |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
hey, the FreeBSD port was updated... to 0.4.4 |
| 20:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Look at all of these channels http://irc.minetest.ru |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
Menche, woo-hoo! |
| 20:21 |
* Calinou |
smokes some BSD to celebrate. |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
better than the random 0.4.dev it used to be |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
...I see devils everywhere |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
and it has a separate port for minetest_game |
| 20:21 |
Traxie21_ |
Meow |
| 20:21 |
Traxie21_ |
O_o |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
woof |
| 20:21 |
Traxie21_ |
kick the other me, I timed out |
| 20:21 |
mauvebic |
i see dead people |
| 20:22 |
ShadowNinja |
most of the minetest channels should be droped |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
theres a cemetary right down the street |
| 20:22 |
|
Traxie21 was kicked by Calinou: bai! |
| 20:22 |
ShadowNinja |
only #minetest and #minetest-dev are realy used |
| 20:22 |
Traxie21_ |
HOW DARE YO.. owiat |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
:) |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
i hear the politics there are more intense :P |
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| 20:22 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
alrighty guys, im outta here |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 20:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Traxie21|XUbuntu: is your account registered? |
| 20:22 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
? |
| 20:22 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
no |
| 20:22 |
Menche |
what's #minetest-delta for? i thought minetest-delta died |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
its still in aur lol |
| 20:23 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
I dont want to register every nickname I use |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
it's for nothing, but some people use it for mod development |
| 20:23 |
sdzen |
its for potatoes |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
what about all the other greek letters? :( |
| 20:23 |
ShadowNinja |
If you register it you can use ghost/release to get rid of the other you |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
isn't minetest delta the old dev branch? |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
been repossesed? |
| 20:23 |
Traxie21|XUbuntu |
How do you register names? |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
where new features were tested first |
| 20:23 |
ShadowNinja |
delta was merged into master and abandoned |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
Traxie21|XUbuntu: /msg NickServ help |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
to get info about that |
| 20:24 |
ShadowNinja |
/msg nickserv help register |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
what ShadowNinja said :P |
| 20:24 |
ShadowNinja |
make sure you are using your main nick when you do it |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
so, why is there still #minetest-delta |
| 20:24 |
ironzorg |
ShadowNinja: watch this ↓ |
| 20:24 |
ironzorg |
/ |
| 20:24 |
mauvebic |
am i the only one who gets random PM's from MarkV? |
| 20:24 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 20:25 |
sdzen |
dang it sapier! appear! |
| 20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
ironzorg: ? |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
Traxie21 lost her voice, heh |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
lol, the only thing in the #minetest-delta logs for today is people joining |
| 20:25 |
ironzorg |
ShadowNinja: |
| 20:25 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Nope |
| 20:25 |
ironzorg |
/ |
| 20:25 |
Traxie21|Kindle |
Just registering names |
| 20:25 |
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| 20:25 |
ShadowNinja |
What are you trying to tell me ironzorg? |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
nobody has actually said anything on #minetest-delta for a few days |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
ironzorg, we know, put two slashes and it'll say 1 slash in chat |
| 20:26 |
Traxie21|Laptop |
Welp |
| 20:26 |
Traxie21|Laptop |
I'm off |
| 20:26 |
Calinou |
bye |
| 20:26 |
Traxie21|Laptop |
Cyas! |
| 20:26 |
Traxie21|Laptop |
Linux Rocks^3 |
| 20:26 |
mauvebic |
glory to you, and your house |
| 20:26 |
Menche |
actually, same for #minetest-doc too |
| 20:26 |
Menche |
and #minetest-mods |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, and her kindle? D: |
| 20:27 |
mauvebic |
p'tahk |
| 20:27 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
Menche, two channels are enough :P |
| 20:27 |
mauvebic |
kindle? |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
"Traxie21|Kindle" |
| 20:27 |
mauvebic |
those chocolate eggs with plastic toys? |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 20:27 |
sdzen |
haha :P |
| 20:27 |
sdzen |
those eggs are good |
| 20:27 |
Calinou |
amazon tablet, similar build quality :P |
| 20:27 |
sdzen |
d |
| 20:28 |
sdzen |
grr |
| 20:28 |
mauvebic |
me no likeys tablets |
| 20:28 |
mauvebic |
even changed my mind on android phones |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
for heating your house, a GTX 680 will do the job better than an ipad, for the same price |
| 20:28 |
mauvebic |
i have a cat that demands less attention |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
it's cold in france, right now :< |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, lol'd at the comparison :P |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
dang |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
here its so warm everything melted in a day and the sewers backed up |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
i kept hearing this strange noise from the toilet, i thought it was trying to communicate |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
turns out it was air backing up |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
communist toilet |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
then the tub, the sinks |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
seriously lol |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
got drano |
| 20:30 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
it is so hot here i am sweeting from sitting outside in the shade |
| 20:30 |
* Calinou |
is now playing: CommunistCraft |
| 20:30 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
wait a second why am i stil out here |
| 20:30 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
goes inside |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
the power of tablets: feel any temperature, in minutes |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
neck pain too |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
back pain |
| 20:31 |
mauvebic |
i slept on a futon for 2 years so that dont help lol |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
I heard notch is in this channel |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
getting ideas |
| 20:31 |
Menche |
? |
| 20:31 |
mauvebic |
he doesn't even work on MC anymore |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
Oh is it you Menche ????? |
| 20:31 |
mauvebic |
or so ive heard |
| 20:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
he does |
| 20:31 |
Doyousketch2 |
tablet's ok on heat, but got a laptop that's got that crazy heat issue. |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
mauvebic, don't believe what the internet says |
| 20:31 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
he is under his real name though |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
0x10c hasnt been worked on in forever |
| 20:31 |
Menche |
yeah, i thought notch left MC |
| 20:32 |
JesseH |
the lazy bastards |
| 20:32 |
Menche |
and was working on another project |
| 20:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
anyways i wonder why minecraft finally decided to split their extures in different files |
| 20:32 |
mauvebic |
with food prices going up lately, maybe he needs to milk the MC thing a little longer |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
JesseH, lol |
| 20:32 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
probably because they saw the prob of adding more nodes |
| 20:32 |
* Calinou |
already saw jeb_ and ez (Notch's ex-wife) in #minecraft @ espernet |
| 20:32 |
Menche |
didn't minetest add jungles before minecraft did? |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
who cares who did what first? |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 20:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yeah but ours were bleh |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
Menche, we did |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
everything they can do, we can do better if we put our heads together |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
we should've patented that feature |
| 20:33 |
Menche |
mesecons added lightstone before MC redstone got, whatever they call the equivalent |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
or rather, when |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
Menche, mesecons are incredibly powerful, much better than minecraft's redstone |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
the redstone has a nice "fantasy" feel but for fantasy reasons, it is too limited |
| 20:34 |
mauvebic |
yeah though mesecons could practically be a game in and of itself |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
e.g. no ability to place it in air or on walls |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
mesecons are more like electricity, I'm fine with that |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
well, that's a good start :P nuclear power station went band in simcity 2000 |
| 20:35 |
Menche |
my server has powerlines, couldn't do that with redstone because they have to be next to a solid node |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
bang* |
| 20:35 |
mauvebic |
thought V said mesecons was like, TTL? |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
TTL? |
| 20:35 |
mauvebic |
dont remember what it stands for, transistor something logic |
| 20:35 |
mauvebic |
like, tiny amps, not kilowatts |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
Jordach, the new simcity removed them, now you can use internet-connection-powered water mills |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
only works if you have an internet connection |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
and whenever the sims are thirsty, they all drive to the nearest pumping station |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i play the old 2000 version, before SC3,4 |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
and all the sims line up for the same hooker |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
my reactor exploded and annialated my city :P |
| 20:39 |
Hwkiller |
does anyone else get really funky node images sometimes? the blocks are fine, but their picture in the inventory is way off |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
texture_atlas = false |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
*enable_tex... |
| 20:39 |
Hwkiller |
in world.mt? |
| 20:39 |
Hwkiller |
or... no, minetest.conf? |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
i hear some people are approaching the node limite of 4096? insane |
| 20:40 |
* VanessaE |
has returned (scrollback tl;dr) |
| 20:40 |
mauvebic |
minetest.conf |
| 20:40 |
Menche |
minetest.conf |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
afternoon all |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 20:40 |
* Menche |
thinks that enable_texture_atlas and preload_item_visuals should be disabled by default |
| 20:40 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 20:40 |
mauvebic |
yeah seems most people have to do it nowadays |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, so when cars need fuel, they go to the nearest mcdonalds |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: approaching? I exceeded it last night :( |
| 20:41 |
RealBadAngel |
texture atlas is disabled by default and will be completely removed |
| 20:41 |
mauvebic |
youd have thought they learned their lesson with simsocieties |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
Menche, atlas is off by default already, visuals is on sadly |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel, poor c-fifty-five, he spent hours coding that :( |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
but it's not adapted for a game where you have mods |
| 20:42 |
mauvebic |
4096 nodes? how can one possibly have that many nodes? lol at around 1K i was like, ok , enough lol |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
it was fine when the game was monolithic |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, stairsplus |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
now everyone will blame me D: |
| 20:42 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: moretrees has stairsplus/circular saw support now, in the 'newstuff' branch |
| 20:42 |
mauvebic |
well yeah but i have a mod with as many pieces and textures |
| 20:43 |
mauvebic |
though, i dont have other mods creating similar pieces |
| 20:43 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, in fact c55 started to make it obsolete, i just finished it |
| 20:43 |
mauvebic |
how many doors? |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: which is over a THOUSAND nodes by itself. |
| 20:43 |
Hwkiller |
is a comment in lua "--" ? |
| 20:43 |
Menche |
yes |
| 20:43 |
Hwkiller |
I need to try to kill the tree growth in my server; it's ridiculous |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
well around 750 I guess |
| 20:43 |
Menche |
[[ ]] for a block comment |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
(3 block types * 10 trees * 25 or so nodes) |
| 20:43 |
mauvebic |
doors work fine on 2 nodes instead of 3, just get rid of the inventory placeholder and use an inventory image for the top or bottom piece |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
or --[[ --]] |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, iirc a stairsplus material requires about 35 nodes, no? |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
there are 20 materials available at least |
| 20:44 |
mauvebic |
35 shapes? dang |
| 20:44 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: a bit less than 32 |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
...more than 700 nodes |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 20:44 |
Hwkiller |
I love the nature mod, except that it is making trees and papyrus grow to extraordinary heights |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
then 640 nodes already |
| 20:44 |
mauvebic |
i have extra shapes commented out in case i ever need em, but i try to avoid it |
| 20:44 |
Hwkiller |
like... towering over the island high |
| 20:45 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: the saw has 32 output slots, only 2 or 3 of which are unused |
| 20:45 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, you shall remove rotated ones |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
ah, yeah, forgot about that |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel, won't that break compatibility? |
| 20:45 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, FYI, you dont need the -- in front of the ]] to close a comment |
| 20:45 |
mauvebic |
not necessarily |
| 20:45 |
VanessaE |
Menche: I usually write --[[ ]]-- myself |
| 20:46 |
Menche |
what're the last 2 dashes for? |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
LandMine spotted at #minetest-mods |
| 20:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
vanenessae you have too many textures in yoyur pack |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997|Tablet: so? :) |
| 20:46 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
but i have too many packs so it doesnt matter lol |
| 20:46 |
RealBadAngel |
cut nodes count is more important than some unknown nodes which can be dug and replaced just |
| 20:46 |
Menche |
LandMine on a dead channel? |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
lots of mods support = lots of texture files. |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, he is often on #minetest-mods |
| 20:47 |
mauvebic |
does he have the same IP as markv? |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
* LandMine :No such nick/channel |
| 20:47 |
Menche |
ok, so he dropped into a dead channel, said something, then left |
| 20:47 |
PilzAdam |
* OGLandMine (bdbf1a4cgateway/web/freenode/ip.189.191.26.76) hat #minetest-mods betreten |
| 20:47 |
mauvebic |
or likwid? |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: it's as simple as adding a conversion ABM to translate the redundant nodes into the newly-rotated ones. |
| 20:47 |
Menche |
was OGLandMine |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
the same is true for any mod that gets converted over to 6d |
| 20:48 |
RealBadAngel |
easier to dig some nodes |
| 20:48 |
mauvebic |
im still waiting on helper functions for that lol |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, who says ABM says slow |
| 20:48 |
RealBadAngel |
also VanessaE, drop that sideways trunks and just make regular trunks use facedir |
| 20:48 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: when the abm converts a node, that's one less node it has to trigger on later, so after a couple of seconds in any given region, the abm has nothing left to trigger on. |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: too lazy ;) |
| 20:49 |
RealBadAngel |
get your lazy ass to work then :) |
| 20:49 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: the technicaly correct way is --[[ --]] |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: that doesn't look "properly" nested though |
| 20:49 |
VanessaE |
which is why I do it the other way |
| 20:49 |
mauvebic |
^ whatever works |
| 20:49 |
ShadowNinja |
in fact just ]] works |
| 20:50 |
Menche |
the reason for that is, you can add another - to the --[[ to disable the comment |
| 20:50 |
RealBadAngel |
use --[[ and ]]-- |
| 20:50 |
Menche |
--]] just becomes another comment then |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, won't that slow down a server when it just started? |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja, I always use --[[ and --]], two extra bytes don't hurt :P |
| 20:51 |
Menche |
LandMine's on from his usual IP address |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: nope. only when a player enters an unconverted area, and then it'll be a very brief lag while the abm convers the nodes - then the abm has nothing left to trigger on |
| 20:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: yep, me too |
| 20:51 |
VanessaE |
just in case he shows up here... |
| 20:51 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, yes, but when the server restart, isn't the list of uncoverted areas reset? |
| 20:51 |
* ShadowNinja |
has two ip addresses for him now |
| 20:51 |
* Menche |
picks up a mithril sword |
| 20:51 |
Calinou |
and how can you trigger an abm only once? set an huge interval? |
| 20:52 |
* Calinou |
picks up a G36 like usual, Menche |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: nope. |
| 20:52 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you're just gonna be using add_node() to place the converted nodes. |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
so the conversions will remain in the map, same as if a user had placed the |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
them* |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
and which interval should I use then? |
| 20:53 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: set an interval of 1 and a chance of 1. trigger on the node name you need to convert. add_node() to place it. |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
ah ok |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
the next time the abm wants to trigger, there won't be anything to trigger on, so it won't run at all. |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
won't it even do a small check? |
| 20:54 |
Hwkiller |
what's the best way to remove tons of blocks quickly? I want to kill off those gigantic, laggy trees in my server |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
sure, in the engine it'll have to decide if the abm can even run, but that takes no time afaik. |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
if there's nothing to run it on that is |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
Hwkiller, worldedit |
| 20:54 |
Menche |
Hwkiller, try worldedit |
| 20:54 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, ok |
| 20:55 |
Hwkiller |
do you just replace the nodes with "air"? |
| 20:55 |
Menche |
//replace whatever:node air |
| 20:55 |
Hwkiller |
and how I can I find out the node name? |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
default:leaves and default:tree |
| 20:56 |
Hwkiller |
thanks |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
Hwkiller, or, an extremely effective alternative |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
/giveme fire:basic_flame -1 |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
right click trees |
| 20:56 |
Menche |
hehehe |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
make sure no wooden building is near |
| 20:56 |
Hwkiller |
lmao... hm... |
| 20:56 |
Hwkiller |
that spreads on grass though right? |
| 20:56 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: so that you'd do here is a loop, iterate through all the stair/slab/micro cuts that have an upside-down or sideways/wall variant, set an abm to trigger on that node, use add_node() therein to replace that with the normal right-side-up variant, rotated via 6d facedir. |
| 20:56 |
Calinou |
-1 gives you 65535 nodes :P |
| 20:57 |
Hwkiller |
I have no wooden buildings, but I also don't want to scorch the entire landscape |
| 20:57 |
Hwkiller |
lol |
| 20:57 |
VanessaE |
then here in about, oh, a month or two, the abm won't be needed anymore, so comment it out |
| 20:57 |
Calinou |
dirt isn't flammable :P |
| 20:57 |
Hwkiller |
oo... |
| 20:57 |
Hwkiller |
then fire it is |
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| 20:59 |
Doyousketch2 |
dirt shouldn't be flammable. ShadowNinja was saying he ran into a bug last night where it was burning |
| 21:01 |
ShadowNinja |
Doyousketch2: nope |
| 21:01 |
Hwkiller |
that IS super effective |
| 21:01 |
ShadowNinja |
I wanted a conf option to disable fire |
| 21:01 |
rarkenin |
And an overrideable register_on_burn |
| 21:01 |
Doyousketch2 |
I thought you said it burned out the ground under your house, and that's why you wanted to disable it |
| 21:01 |
Menche |
a town on my server had lava as part of the city gate |
| 21:01 |
Menche |
and wooden roads |
| 21:02 |
Menche |
...fire spread down the roads and hopped onto buildings, throughout the entire town |
| 21:03 |
mauvebic |
shiiiit http://youtu.be/OmoldX1wKYQ |
| 21:03 |
Menche |
people on my server are complaining about low FPS; i havan't had any problem with that though |
| 21:05 |
Menche |
lava spills cause a lighting glitch where the ground stays lit even after the lava is gone |
| 21:06 |
JesseH |
who wants to play some minetest |
| 21:06 |
* Menche |
is playing minetest |
| 21:06 |
* JesseH |
likes playing with others |
| 21:07 |
Doyousketch2 |
I might play for a few. what server? |
| 21:07 |
VanessaE |
play on mine :) |
| 21:07 |
* JesseH |
also needs a server to play on. |
| 21:07 |
JesseH |
VanessaE, laggy? |
| 21:07 |
* Menche |
shamelessly bumps his |
| 21:08 |
JesseH |
Menche, ip pl0x |
| 21:08 |
VanessaE |
JesseH: not any more laggy than anyone else's :) |
| 21:08 |
JesseH |
>_> |
| 21:08 |
* JesseH |
is skeptical |
| 21:08 |
Menche |
menche.servegame.com, i don't have any lag problems but some others report bad FPS |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz:30000 |
| 21:09 |
ShadowNinja |
JesseH: my server? :-) |
| 21:09 |
Menche |
don't really know what FPS has to do with the server though, that's typically client-side |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
will he please stop spamming |
| 21:09 |
* JesseH |
feels famous. |
| 21:09 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82593#p82593 |
| 21:09 |
JesseH |
Everyone please PM me your servers pl0x |
| 21:09 |
JesseH |
I have badddd add |
| 21:10 |
JesseH |
ADD* |
| 21:10 |
JesseH |
I'de be eternally grape-full |
| 21:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
over 1000 posts in 13 months |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
ADD? |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
too lazy to google the acronym of the day 8) |
| 21:10 |
JesseH |
attention deficit disorder |
| 21:10 |
JesseH |
xD |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
http://servers.minetest.net |
| 21:10 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: it means he can't easily focus on one task at a time. |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
server list ^ |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, I know what it is :P |
| 21:10 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
hay just cause some one has that doesnt mean thay cant focus |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
even though i am a great example atm havent started homework |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
oh, there are people on sky hardcore |
| 21:11 |
JesseH |
When I see a wall of text, I shut off irc ;) |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
bbut still i post alot but not useless stuff |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
let me connect to that server using my netbook then grief the bridges |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
once I've did that, some guy tried to follow me and fell |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
lol'd |
| 21:12 |
* Menche |
has 816 posts since July 2011, Likwid has 1,032 since January 2013 |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
[citation needed], jojoa1997|Tablet |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
about 1700 posts here |
| 21:12 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
Calinou ? |
| 21:12 |
* JesseH |
sees moar text |
| 21:12 |
* JesseH |
dies |
| 21:12 |
Exio |
1 post |
| 21:12 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
kills |
| 21:12 |
JesseH |
lol |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
<Menche> people on my server are complaining about low FPS; i havan't had any problem with that though => what's your hardware? |
| 21:13 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
JasseH agian |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
again |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
how do i spell that |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
you can tab-complete |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
erm, there is no tab key on tablets... |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
with posts it depends on what you can comment on |
| 21:13 |
Menche |
Calinou, my client's hardware? core i5 M450, Nvidia Geforce 310M |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
though likwid says whatever |
| 21:14 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes there is Calinou |
| 21:14 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Use system wide LuaJIT if aviable. 9449026839 2013-04-08T13:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/IHGtGg |
| 21:14 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
waves my keyboard |
| 21:14 |
Menche |
LuaJIT support committed? wooooo |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
heh, both guys on the server are far away from spawn, I die if I try to fall fo them :P |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
Menche, even though it's shit hardware, it is recent, makes an huge difference |
| 21:15 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
someone hold me back\ |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
(lol'd at 310M) |
| 21:16 |
* Calinou |
holds jojoa1997|Tablet back |
| 21:16 |
mauvebic |
what is shit? |
| 21:16 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82596#p82596 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WHO THE **** CARES |
| 21:16 |
mauvebic |
hardware or jit? |
| 21:16 |
Calinou |
that image is a "top file" in omploader |
| 21:17 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
can i please kill him |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
you do not have the "kill" privilege, so no |
| 21:17 |
* Menche |
gives jojoa1997|Tablet a mithril sword |
| 21:17 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
look at his newest post i want to cut off his hands so he cant type |
| 21:18 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
has some fun with the sword |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
why is his omploader screenshot black and green? |
| 21:18 |
mauvebic |
cant you just setup a fake forum where he can think he's posting? :P |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet, his topic is now in a piece of paper (which is in the trash now) |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
post* |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, rofl |
| 21:18 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
someone please |
| 21:18 |
* Calinou |
cuts jojoa1997|Tablet's hands |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
happy? |
| 21:18 |
Menche |
have the forum site redirect him to a spelling help site |
| 21:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
yes |
| 21:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i grow themn back |
| 21:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
lol YES |
| 21:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
if posts another useless post i am going to yell at hime |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
Menche, how about we redirect him to http://speedtest.10fastfingers.co |
| 21:19 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
him |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
Menche, how about we redirect him to http://speedtest.10fastfingers.com |
| 21:19 |
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| 21:19 |
Calinou |
typo'd ;) |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
if he gets > 100 WPM he will be redirected to http://forum.minetest.net after finishing |
| 21:19 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5|OFF, wake up, building time ;) |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
if he has between 2 and 99 WPM, he is redirected to a spelling help site |
| 21:20 |
Menche |
speed: 3 wpm, accuracy: 0.01% |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
if he has 1 WPM, he is redirected to about:blank |
| 21:20 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
cool http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5514 |
| 21:20 |
mauvebic |
same idea for griefers and haters: setup a fake server with lots of fake players and a village mod :p |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
jojoa1997|Tablet, the "don't reply to spam" applies to useless posts too |
| 21:20 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok but the next one i am going off on him |
| 21:21 |
Menche |
via PM? |
| 21:21 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
then i completely ignore him |
| 21:21 |
Calinou |
respect other users too :P |
| 21:23 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i do but this guy is so |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
new win build with LuaJIT and memory leaks fixed: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 |
| 21:23 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
agrivating |
| 21:23 |
mauvebic |
i say drive him into the woods and leave him there |
| 21:23 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
remember this guy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3949 |
| 21:23 |
mauvebic |
lol him |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
for those who done know, LuaJIT is 2 times faster than Lua |
| 21:24 |
mauvebic |
you noticed a difference? for which mods? |
| 21:24 |
RealBadAngel |
all of them |
| 21:24 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, defaults on_generate() from 19 to 10 ms |
| 21:24 |
mauvebic |
not exactly impartial :P PilzAdam didn't seem to think so at first |
| 21:24 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
so do we have to change our mods to use luajit |
| 21:24 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 21:25 |
mauvebic |
not bad |
| 21:25 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, I need to sell these win build :-) |
| 21:25 |
RealBadAngel |
you have to just install luajit and get new game build |
| 21:25 |
mauvebic |
though, after this, there are no other cheats/hacks and people will actually have to optimize their code lol |
| 21:25 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
pilzadam whyu |
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jojoa1997|Tablet |
no one will buy them |
| 21:25 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
anyways it is open source |
| 21:25 |
Menche |
you can sell open source software |
| 21:25 |
PilzAdam |
jojoa1997|Tablet, please dont respond to me if you dont get what I said |
| 21:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i did get it |
| 21:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
i know you are joking though |
| 21:26 |
mauvebic |
i saw a bunch of pull requests from sapier for memory leaks too, they work? |
| 21:26 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, were serialization issues fixed? |
| 21:26 |
PilzAdam |
of course |
| 21:26 |
* Menche |
goes to build the latest git |
| 21:26 |
Calinou |
cool |
| 21:26 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, LuaJIT is upstream now |
| 21:26 |
Menche |
it uses luaJIT by default if it finds it? |
| 21:26 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
ok can i update everything but the application |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
you should put luajit in the list of deps to install (in the sudo apt-get install thingy in the README) |
| 21:27 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
for minetest. the minetest.exe |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
if you haven't already :P |
| 21:27 |
Menche |
does it use luaJIT by default if it finds it? |
| 21:27 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, for linux: http://luajit.org/download/LuaJIT-2.0.1.tar.gz |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, its not an dependency, its optional |
| 21:27 |
khonkhortisan |
it's a replacement library |
| 21:27 |
RealBadAngel |
unpack, go to /src make, make install |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 21:28 |
RealBadAngel |
then compile the game |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, vorbis is also optional, yet you put it in the line that installs deps |
| 21:28 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc one may look in distro repos for luajit package |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
(well, the game will not build unless you use the option to disable sound, but still) |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel, suddenly: newbies |
| 21:29 |
mauvebic |
add it to deps, make sure the config option to switch it off is documented though, good compromise? |
| 21:30 |
RealBadAngel |
theres no config option for luajit |
| 21:30 |
RealBadAngel |
it is autodetected |
| 21:30 |
mauvebic |
you cant switch between jit and plain lua? |
| 21:30 |
mauvebic |
what if someone runs into a problem and they need to know if its jit, lua or their fault? |
| 21:30 |
Menche |
if it uses luaJIT if it finds it, and normal lua if it doesn't, what's the problem? |
| 21:31 |
mauvebic |
like, say, serialization lol |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82602#p82602 |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 21:31 |
RealBadAngel |
uninstall jit, recompile to get lua back again |
| 21:31 |
RealBadAngel |
as easy as that |
| 21:31 |
mauvebic |
if you have both installed, would it be difficult to toggle it? |
| 21:32 |
RealBadAngel |
lua is not installed |
| 21:32 |
RealBadAngel |
it is bundled with mt |
| 21:32 |
mauvebic |
ok so one is a package the other is builtin |
| 21:32 |
mauvebic |
but same question, how difficult would it be to toggle it without rebuilding? |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, also, if you don't mention it, packagers will not use it :P |
| 21:32 |
mauvebic |
or you have to recompile? |
| 21:32 |
Exio |
-- LuaJIT found. |
| 21:32 |
Exio |
:D |
| 21:32 |
RealBadAngel |
you have to recompile |
| 21:32 |
mauvebic |
dang |
| 21:33 |
mauvebic |
so when i take tarball of minetest git, and compile it in a local folder, no matter what if jit is installed thats what it goes with? |
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* jojoa1997|Tablet |
debating wether i should yell http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82603#p82603 |
| 21:33 |
jojoa1997|Tablet |
nah |
| 21:33 |
Doyousketch2 |
I agree. if it's optional, it should have a commandline option when installing |
| 21:33 |
Menche |
like, -DENABLE_LUAJIT ? |
| 21:33 |
RealBadAngel |
mauvebic, mt uses system wide installed luajit |
| 21:34 |
RealBadAngel |
same as irrlicht |
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mauvebic |
cuz just yesterday i asked if i could run both and V said yes |
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Doyousketch2 |
to disable it, for error testing. yes Menche |
| 21:35 |
Menche |
"Hey how do you make a build work? like how you make the source code files gone, and have a .exe?" LOL |
| 21:35 |
Calinou |
Menche, windows user explained |
| 21:35 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: sure, you build once, then install luajit and build again in a separate build tree. |
| 21:35 |
Calinou |
one should paste this quote every time someone complains about linux |
| 21:35 |
VanessaE |
voila, two builds, one with and one without jit |
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mauvebic |
ok that tiny detail would have been handy :P |
| 21:35 |
mauvebic |
but now i know |
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Doyousketch2 |
it can automatically use it if it's there, but if you don't want to use it you should be able to disable it without having to uninstall the package |
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* Menche |
says add a ENABLE_LUAJIT cmake option that is on by default |
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paxcoder |
how to see where your home is set? |
| 21:36 |
mauvebic |
go outside ? |
| 21:36 |
mauvebic |
:P |
| 21:36 |
Calinou |
use google maps + street view |
| 21:36 |
paxcoder |
i need to set new home |
| 21:36 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
turns on his gps |
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mauvebic |
lol |
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paxcoder |
without losing place |
| 21:37 |
mauvebic |
we are oodles of help today |
| 21:37 |
Exio |
../bin/minetest: error while loading shared libraries: libluajit-5.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:37 |
* jojoa1997|Tablet |
picks up a house and moves it |
| 21:37 |
Exio |
ffffffffffffff |
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mauvebic |
what system> |
| 21:37 |
mauvebic |
usually when i get that i have to take the file, make a backup and change the 2 for a 1 |
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paxcoder |
can someone tell me how to find out where my home is set? |
| 21:37 |
RealBadAngel |
exio, how you have installed jit? |
| 21:38 |
mauvebic |
like, so.2 -> so.1 |
| 21:38 |
mauvebic |
or since .2 is missing, grab the .1 and change it to .2 |
| 21:38 |
Exio |
make clean; make -j7; checkinstall make install |
| 21:38 |
Exio |
mauvebic: sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2{.0.1,} |
| 21:38 |
Menche |
rerun cmake? |
| 21:38 |
mauvebic |
works too |
| 21:38 |
mauvebic |
happens with pacman sometimes |
| 21:38 |
mauvebic |
must be a kernel thing |
| 21:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean luajit library not the game |
| 21:39 |
mauvebic |
damn kernel saunders |
| 21:39 |
Exio |
RealBadAngel: how i installed luajit :P |
| 21:39 |
mauvebic |
linux kernel now available in cripsy, ultra cripsy and original recipe |
| 21:39 |
Exio |
mauvebic: the dynamic loader, how dynamic libs works |
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RealBadAngel |
exio, via package or compiled from sources? |
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mauvebic |
yeah no its no one's fault but the linux peoples |
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Exio |
RealBadAngel: source |
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Hwkiller |
anyone know why carts randomly stop? |
| 21:41 |
RealBadAngel |
and whats your distro? |
| 21:41 |
Calinou |
mauvebic, you forgot realtime recipe where you eat as you cook |
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Doyousketch2 |
rusty wheels |
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mauvebic |
lol youd get sick from doing that |
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Exio |
RealBadAngel: debian6 |
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mauvebic |
tho, in no way garantees you wont get sick from eating fully cooked KFC/PFK |
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RealBadAngel |
maybe i should force mt to use .a instead of .so |
| 21:42 |
RealBadAngel |
that would prevent such errors |
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mauvebic |
dynamic loaders lol |
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mauvebic |
tho point me to a pub and ill show you a real dynamic loader |
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sdzen |
so is minetest going to use luajit instead of lua? (default minetest build from git) |
| 21:44 |
mauvebic |
Sea 55 in progress: http://www.zimg.eu/i/538994961 |
| 21:45 |
Calinou |
I see 55. |
| 21:45 |
mauvebic |
if we had force loading, id so use a dozen entities to fill this up faster lol |
| 21:46 |
mauvebic |
Sea 55 has to be big enough to hold half a dozen ocean liners, and a dozen more uboats |
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RealBadAngel |
sdzen, if theres luajit installed in system game will use it instead of builtin lua |
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sdzen |
hmm |
| 21:47 |
sdzen |
cool |
| 21:47 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc course its compile time case, not runtime |
| 21:47 |
mauvebic |
fuck me, luajit was in the repos all along lol |
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mauvebic |
i kept compiling it seperately for tests |
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mauvebic |
which one? community/luajit 2.0.0-3 |
| 21:50 |
mauvebic |
Just-in-time compiler and replacement for Lua 5.1 |
| 21:50 |
mauvebic |
aur/luajit2-git 20110818-1 (12) |
| 21:51 |
mauvebic |
2011 sounds old |
| 21:51 |
Exio |
use the oficial repos |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
im using jit compiled from sources |
| 21:51 |
Exio |
you should avoid aur as possible |
| 21:51 |
Exio |
inb4 mauvebic installs the aur package |
| 21:51 |
mauvebic |
minetest-git is in aur |
| 21:51 |
sdzen |
and has an outdated version printed on it :) |
| 21:52 |
mauvebic |
who cares if the listing is wrong, it still pulls from git |
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Hwkiller |
doesnt matter |
| 21:52 |
sdzen |
true |
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Hwkiller |
also, use my pkgbuild in the commemts |
| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
though at compile im getting alot of exceptions, is it just me/my dist or everyone? |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: warnings you mean? everyone gets that. |
| 21:53 |
Menche |
i get lots of compiler warnings |
| 21:53 |
mauvebic |
exceptions/warnings whatever, it all reads like spanish to me lol |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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sdzen |
the amount of compiler warnings in minetest has doubled for me lately |
| 21:54 |
mauvebic |
ok so its not just me |
| 21:55 |
sdzen |
course I could be seeing double (I do that sometimes) |
| 21:55 |
sdzen |
but no i tihnk there is more now |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
sapier has left there some unused variables |
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Menche |
the new_style_water looks weird when there's a solid block underwater |
| 21:57 |
Menche |
looks like there's a slice of air under the node |
| 21:57 |
Menche |
s/block/node |
| 22:00 |
mauvebic |
i thought there was a slice of air on top? |
| 22:00 |
Menche |
underneath the solid node |
| 22:00 |
Taoki |
Hi. When creating a formspec, how do you make its values stay remembered for that node (when you right-click it again and see the menu)? |
| 22:00 |
Taoki |
For me they revert to defaults |
| 22:00 |
Menche |
put a solid node underwater with water on all 6 sides |
| 22:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, store data in nodes meta |
| 22:03 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Tried that for the text field but it didn't work |
| 22:03 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on |
| 22:03 |
Taoki |
eg: meta:set_string("name_of_field", "default") |
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mauvebic |
i wonder if paramat could write a better ocean mod than what ive got lol |
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alex256 |
what is the priv for admin called? |
| 22:08 |
mauvebic |
server |
| 22:08 |
alex256 |
tthanks |
| 22:10 |
mauvebic |
the config options for server listings are...: server_name and server_desc i think? |
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* Kacey |
is tired of icechat already |
| 22:23 |
Kacey |
brb |
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Hwkiller |
he should s/icechat/weechat |
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Kacey |
yep hexchat is slightly better than icechat |
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Hwkiller |
he should s/icechat/weechat |
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| 22:36 |
Kacey |
no |
| 22:36 |
Kacey |
i am used to xchat |
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Hwkiller |
pbbt |
| 22:44 |
Hwkiller |
http://i.imgur.com/Snq6TY9.jpg <-- what it's all about |
| 22:45 |
Kacey |
uuuum... no |
| 22:49 |
Kacey |
http://ompldr.org/vaTE5dg/Screenshot%20(3).png |
| 22:49 |
Kacey |
hexchat |
| 22:49 |
Kacey |
http://ompldr.org/vaTE5eg/Screenshot%20(1).png |
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Kacey |
xchat |
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Hwkiller |
disgusting |
| 22:58 |
Hwkiller |
windows 8 nonetheless |
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Hwkiller |
eek |
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Hwkiller |
you need linux in your life |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 23:07 |
Kacey |
i used linux on my netbook (and liked it) but windows can do certain things linux cannot and vice versa |
| 23:09 |
Hwkiller |
aside from video editing, what is linux lacking in? |
| 23:15 |
VanessaE |
many would say it still lacks games (despite the advent of Steam) |
| 23:15 |
VanessaE |
others would say it lacks business-critical apps, the mainframe-looking shit you always see being used in offices, or those really complicated data-entry apps you see so often in doctors' offices. |
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Kacey |
basically linux does the more "unclean" tasks that windows doesnt |
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* Kacey |
might set up a VM |
| 23:25 |
Kacey |
do i want Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 |
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YoungDerp |
do i want Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10? |
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mauvebic |
i dont fucking believe it - 5 days after sending me a payment confirmation, my ISP sent me a payment reminder for the same bloody bill |
| 23:28 |
mauvebic |
what do i do with these guys? |
| 23:34 |
Kacey |
huh |
| 23:34 |
Kacey |
running Ubuntu next to Windows 8? |
| 23:34 |
Kacey |
good idea? |
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VanessaE |
mauvebic: you call and raise hell |
| 23:41 |
mauvebic |
if they returned calls |
| 23:42 |
mauvebic |
i just looked at their review page at canadianisp.ca, theyve been helping themselves to customers' credit cards for 3-4 months now |
| 23:42 |
mauvebic |
no wonder they kept hassling us for a credit card number, easier to double-bill |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
I presume you withheld it :) |
| 23:44 |
mauvebic |
i dont think ill send them a penny more |
| 23:44 |
mauvebic |
my credits' already shit, they can send it to collections for all i care |
| 23:44 |
NotReallyNick |
I'm told many people don't like 12.10. Go for 12.04. |
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| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
12.04 here too |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
12.10 was a train wreck |
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Kacey |
lol 13.04 is coming out soon |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
but it ain |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
but it ain's LTS :) |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
*sigh* |
| 23:48 |
Kacey |
maybe even an arch VM |
| 23:49 |
Kacey |
nope nvm |
| 23:50 |
NotReallyNick |
Yeah, I'm sticking with the LTS so I don't have to burn as many disks and reset my computer as often. |
| 23:50 |
Hwkiller |
you can just upgrade from lts to the current release though |
| 23:50 |
* Kacey |
wishes he had a usb to set up YUMI on |
| 23:51 |
Kacey |
but my PC wont allow booting to the usb anyway |
| 23:51 |
Hwkiller |
do-release-upgrade |
| 23:52 |
Hwkiller |
and how old is your computer, Kacey, for it not to allow usb boot? |
| 23:52 |
Kacey |
brand new |
| 23:53 |
Hwkiller |
then it surely allows usb boot; that seems ridiculous |
| 23:53 |
Kacey |
microsoft made it so that the companies have to make the boot menu pretty well impossible to get to |
| 23:53 |
Hwkiller |
? how |
| 23:54 |
Hwkiller |
it'd be against ms's interests to block usb booting |
| 23:54 |
Hwkiller |
many of their own tools use it |
