Time Nick Message 00:00 mauvebic honestly if it looks awful out of the box im not interested lol 00:00 GhostlyDeath What is the crafting for mesa, gold, and copper? 00:00 Sketch2 "twm??" 00:00 mauvebic ahhh, thats better, awn ram usage: 0.42% 00:00 mauvebic better than 50% lol 00:00 Exio i'm using 1400/4000 atm :P 00:01 Kacey hi Menche 00:01 Menche hi 00:02 Sketch2 if it means "tiny window manager," I'd have to agree. fewer resources eaten up is good 00:02 Kacey i think i am banned on your server 00:02 Menche you're not in the ipban.txt 00:02 Kacey i cant connect 00:02 Exio Sketch2: tilling 00:02 Exio dwm, i3, awesome, ??, etc 00:03 Menche twm isn't tiling 00:03 Exio for saying a few ones 00:03 Sketch2 oh, so it can overlap windows and multitask 00:03 Exio i didn't mean twm as wm, i meant twm as tilling window manager :P 00:03 Menche ok 00:03 tripod i like monsterwm and xmonad 00:04 tripod aweosme used to be good because too bloated imo 00:05 Menche i use i3 00:05 * Hwkiller uses spectrwm 00:05 Hwkiller formerly scrotwm 00:05 Menche Kacey: the server had crashed, try again 00:05 Menche whoa griefing 00:05 Kacey where? 00:06 Menche the mall, it's horrible 00:06 Sketch2 have XFCE on the laptop and the P4. Gnome classic on the Dual-core 00:07 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #92 from khonkhortisan/lazypull c08e868be2 2013-04-07T17:05:39-07:00 http://git.io/b4RPHw 00:08 Hwkiller man, I love that feeling when you've been digging down for so long then finally come across a cave 00:09 Sketch2 yeah, some of the deep caves are enormous 00:10 Hwkiller indeed; I just found a giant one 00:11 Hwkiller are deeper caves larger? 00:11 Sketch2 some of 'em seem to be 00:11 Hwkiller I wonder how many caves there tend to be per area 00:11 telek So where's the dark elf and underdark mods? :D 00:12 Sketch2 you mean like elf looking skins? 00:12 GhostlyDeath Can mese be smelted? 00:13 Exio into mesecons 00:15 GhostlyDeath heheheh 00:15 GhostlyDeath I got mese blocks now 00:15 GhostlyDeath since I found like 200 mese crystals 00:15 Hwkiller are fragments useful? 00:15 GhostlyDeath I made 14 mese blocks 00:16 GhostlyDeath I got useless mese crystals 00:16 GhostlyDeath crystal fragment 00:16 GhostlyDeath oh well 00:17 GhostlyDeath mese pick axe is nice 00:17 Hwkiller so crystals -> blocks? 00:19 Sketch2 RealBadAngel, got your LuaJIT enabled minetest to compile run on laptop. bootup is almost instant 00:20 GhostlyDeath yes 00:20 RealBadAngel good 00:20 Sketch2 well, then again, that was just minimal, no mods enabled, so that might not mean much. just seemed fast compared to what I'm used to 00:20 GhostlyDeath and blocks -> crystals 00:20 GhostlyDeath crystals make tools 00:21 RealBadAngel Sketch2, more complex mods, and more of them you will feel greater difference 00:21 telek How does rollback work? 00:21 Sketch2 cool. will have to try it out on desktop when it's completed it's VirtualBox thing 00:22 telek Oh nevermind I don't have a log for it. 00:22 Hwkiller hm, my carts keep duplicating themselves 00:22 Hwkiller lol 00:22 Hwkiller I started with 1 cart; I have 7 now 00:23 Exio i think that is a good answer of why they aren't in default, no? 00:24 Menche isn't minetest great at handling entities? :) 00:24 Menche if you leave that mapblock, they disappear and come back later randomly 00:29 sokomine entities are strange, yes 00:30 telek Dirt nodes are considered combustable by the fire mod? 00:32 khonkhortisan that seems like a bad thing 00:33 khonkhortisan Dig under the grass, burn the dirt layer under it, have a very large sinkhole 00:34 khonkhortisan I had carts suddenly reverse direction at multiple places along a long powered rail 00:44 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSueEm2Cw28 woah. 00:46 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82386#p82386 00:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Can anyone help 00:46 Doyousketch2 yeah, you know - this blows. 00:47 Doyousketch2 VirtualBox is running at 0% 00:47 Doyousketch2 I've been sitting here waiting on this stupid thing for 2 hrs 00:48 Doyousketch2 meh. yeah, I got a few mins. what is it jojoa? 00:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Could you compile minetest for android 00:48 jojoa1997|Tablet I really want tro test it 00:48 Doyousketch2 oh, well, I might be able to point them in the right direction 00:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Sfan5 has done it but won't even try to run minetest 00:50 telek Interact and build privs: Do both actually work or is interact still tied to building? 00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet Anyone else have an android 00:53 telek Hey what mod is the fire in? 00:54 telek .... 00:54 telek The fire mod is part of minetest_game now? 00:54 telek Ugh 00:55 jojoa1997|Tablet No it is fire in commons 00:55 jojoa1997|Tablet They need to document how to change the mods in defaulr 00:55 telek No kidding 00:56 telek It eats dirt squares. 00:56 Menche in game.conf 00:56 telek I just lost the ground under all my buildings. 00:56 telek So now I've got some 1 block high hovering buildings thanks to that. 00:56 telek Plus lots of other nodes that should've been combustable but since they were in mods, aren't. 00:57 telek Can you override internal mods with mods in the worldmods dir? 00:57 Doyousketch2 yeah, I've got an Anroid tablet I was gonna let my kid play minetest on if I could convert it over 01:00 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: compiling stuff for android is not just "make" or anything 01:01 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: having stuff working for other arch is a PITA, if it even works out-of-the-box, what will not happen 01:01 Doyousketch2 right. you have to rewrite all the cmake files so they point to stand-alone copies that have to be open for all OS's to read 01:01 Exio no that 01:02 Doyousketch2 stand alone copies of the libraries I mean. the dependancies 01:02 Doyousketch2 they can't be OS dependant 01:02 jojoa1997|Tablet What I am saying is 01:02 Exio the code it self isn't "prepared" for a touch-like interface 01:02 jojoa1997|Tablet He won't even try minetest just to try it. Also he made his examples and those cpoukd be coded wrong 01:02 jojoa1997|Tablet I know but 01:03 jojoa1997|Tablet First step is to get it working 01:03 Doyousketch2 oh, well you can plug in a mouse and a keyboard. I do it on my ViewSonic Gtablet 01:03 Exio do you even think those examples will not work but a GAME will work? 01:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Also I can test movement working since I have a keyboard 01:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Bluetooth one 01:03 jojoa1997|Tablet http://sfan5.dyndns.org/IrrlichtExample01-debug.apk 01:03 Exio do they work? 01:05 Doyousketch2 Unable to connect. Iceweasel can't establish a connection to the server at sfan5.dyndns.org. 01:05 Menche got that too 01:13 Doc22 hey 01:13 Doyousketch2 I'm sure it's do-able, and if there's an easy way to do it, I'd be on it 01:13 Doc22 howsitgoin 01:14 Exio Doc22: of what? 01:15 Doc22 just in general 01:15 Exio compiling a pc game to android? 01:15 Exio err, Doyousketch2 * 01:15 Doyousketch2 yea 01:15 Exio sorry doc22 :P 01:15 Doc22 lol ok 01:15 Doc22 np 01:15 Exio and hi 01:15 Doc22 hi 01:15 Doc22 soo bored 01:16 Kacey back 01:16 Doc22 hey kacey 01:16 Doc22 :D 01:16 Doc22 long time no see 01:17 Kacey lol 01:17 Doyousketch2 discovered where I screwed up in VirtualBox. aparently there's a checkbox for LiveCD that I didn't tick 01:17 Doc22 how are ya 01:17 Kacey in lots of trouble recently 01:17 Kacey got a new laptop 01:17 Doc22 what kind? 01:18 Doc22 that sounds nice 01:18 Doc22 what kind is it 01:18 Kacey asus 01:18 Doc22 nice 01:18 Doc22 the only laptop i have is a 300$ mini laptop 01:18 Kacey i like my old acer netbook though 01:18 Doc22 so why are you in trouble and what are the restriction 01:18 Doc22 yeah i wouldnt know i dont have any acers 01:19 Kacey a little aspire one 01:19 Doc22 ok 01:19 Doc22 am i asking too much? 01:19 Doyousketch2 I had a friend who had 4 Acers. I tweaked 'em out. they did ok. 01:19 Kacey but this one is huge compared to the netbook 01:20 Kacey but the mouse is tiny 01:20 Doc22 ill take that as yes... 01:20 Kacey haha my lag graph thing is bouncing to the beat of this song 01:21 Doyousketch2 lag graph on what? 01:21 Kacey XChat 01:22 Doyousketch2 oh, I dunno how to pull that up. maybe it's not on this one 01:22 Kacey Scatman scatting drives it mad 01:22 Doc22 .lol 01:22 Doc22 heh 01:22 Kacey view - network meters - graph 01:22 Kacey it appears under the userlist 01:22 Doyousketch2 ah, ok 01:23 Doyousketch2 might have to pull the source-code apart and see if we can put that into minetest 01:24 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add param2 field for ores, some minor fixes and misc. code cleanup 7c0e707cf1 2013-04-07T18:21:54-07:00 http://git.io/ZbH2hQ 01:24 Kacey hmmmm, lol more params? 01:26 Doyousketch2 we need some parameters for slippery. so you slide down rooftops 01:27 Kacey lol 01:27 Doyousketch2 you like that one, don't-cha? 01:27 ShadowNinja Kacey: it is for infinite springs with finite liquid 01:28 Doyousketch2 we'll make some playgrounds with real working swingsets and slides 01:28 ShadowNinja that would be great 01:29 Doyousketch2 and a parameter for rotation, so we can put in a merry-go-round 01:30 bas080 i was wondering. when are you considered a contributor worthy of the minetest contributor section? 01:30 ShadowNinja A commit within the last 6 months 01:30 Doyousketch2 you gotta jump through hoops and learn some stupid Git thing 01:30 bas080 a commit to what? 01:30 bas080 The core? 01:31 ShadowNinja minetest engine 01:31 mauvebic ill cheer when they come up with git UI that doesnt require learning curve lol 01:31 mauvebic even the dumbest picture sites have simple drag'n'drop 01:32 bas080 so no C++ no contributor? 01:32 ShadowNinja like git-cola or gitk? 01:32 ShadowNinja you can also contribute to builtin 01:33 mauvebic git-cola gitk? first i hear of either of these 01:33 Doyousketch2 think they make a blue pill that's called git-it-up 01:34 mauvebic lol 01:34 bas080 I'm sure my ideas implemented in mods of mine have sparked implementations to the builtin or atleast accelerated the process. 01:34 Menche or qgit 01:34 mauvebic lemme write these down 01:34 mauvebic done 01:35 Menche on my system, gitk comes with git 01:35 Kacey there is a git UI it is for windows 01:35 Kacey i use it 01:35 mauvebic well ive bitched about github a dozen times but no one ever mentionned there were simpler alternatives out there lol 01:35 mauvebic just told me to suck it up and learn it lol 01:35 mauvebic at which point i said github can suck it 01:35 mauvebic :P 01:35 Doyousketch2 CodeLite has Git integration as well 01:36 mauvebic sounds like an IDE 01:36 Doc22 loo 01:36 Doc22 lol 01:36 Doyousketch2 it is. does alright 01:36 mauvebic not crazy about IDE's 01:36 mauvebic takes more resources than a blueray movie lol 01:36 ShadowNinja vim :-) 01:36 Doyousketch2 huh, didn't have that prob with this one 01:36 * Menche uses vim 01:36 mauvebic i tried eclipse once 01:37 mauvebic then i had it taken behind the chemical shed and shot 01:37 ShadowNinja me too, works but it is very heavy 01:38 mauvebic and the whole concept of apps running in little virtual boxes soured me on android dev 01:38 Doyousketch2 hunger is setting in. 01:38 ShadowNinja I don't develop for android because it uses java 01:38 mauvebic that too 01:39 ShadowNinja the hello world example is like 20 lines 01:39 mauvebic besides, theres nothing that hasn't been done at this point 01:40 Doyousketch2 lols. I miss the days of the Commodore64. you could code that in like 20 characters 01:40 mauvebic wasting my time on iOS with their strict guidelines was a no-go either 01:40 Doyousketch2 10 Print "Hello World" 01:40 mauvebic almost sounds like basic 01:40 Doyousketch2 lols yea it is 01:41 mauvebic no wonder i recognized it lol 01:42 mauvebic BEEP command lol 01:42 Doyousketch2 friggin' sonofa grrr 01:42 JesseH I think the time has come...to REALLY get into minetest 01:42 Doyousketch2 stupid VirtualBox crashed after install 01:43 mauvebic yeah thats always oodles of fun to setup lol 01:43 mauvebic and everyone's gone virtualbox-crazy this year lol 01:44 * JesseH needs a good non-laggy server to play on 01:45 MichaelEh Hmm.. Vanessa's is good but I've tried to log on now with no luck. 01:45 JesseH preferably with not a lot of people also 01:45 telek Players can end up upside down? 01:45 MichaelEh what you planning to build? 01:46 VanessaE MichaelEh: my server is down temporarily while I sort out a problem with moretrees. 01:46 JesseH MichaelEh, first to learn about the game, play a little, then start working on a mod 01:46 MichaelEh local mode? 01:46 Dopium Hi can anyone help me log into minetest.net it keeps saying it thinks im a bot 01:46 JesseH Well, theres a reason I want to play with other people 01:47 mauvebic weird, the real bots get through lol 01:47 MichaelEh I ususally use local mode to work out some design details 01:47 Doyousketch2 I kinda hate VirtualBox. it's slow, but I'm hoping to start up Debian Wheezy, then put on the ClusterDebian package, minetest, plus all the dependancies 01:47 Doyousketch2 and make it into a Live disk that anyone can try out 01:47 Dopium Tried change my pasword and deleted cookies ect but still does it 01:47 MichaelEh vanessa's server down but it is the best... redcrab. Avoid gameboom since it's gone PvP survival 01:48 ShadowNinja VanessaE: did you see my post about my bot? 01:48 telek Doyousketch2: VB supposedly still beats the alternatives unless you have good vt/kvm support. 01:48 VanessaE ShadowNinja: yeah, sorry I was busy 01:48 telek VanessaE: Did you know the fire mod eats dirt too? :D 01:48 MichaelEh finally got One's Cathedra file to work. 01:49 VanessaE telek: good thing I don't use it :) 01:49 ShadowNinja well you can also have it join if MinetestBot leaves with !join #minetest 01:49 telek VanessaE: You use the minimal mod? 01:49 VanessaE no 01:49 sokomine cathedra file? 01:49 telek Just manually disable it then? 01:49 MichaelEh One's Cathedra from the late gameboom map 01:49 Menche One's Cathedral? I remember seeing a building called that on some old server 01:49 Menche oh, it was gameboo 01:49 Menche m 01:50 mauvebic sweet, one more ship left to go 01:50 ShadowNinja if someone feels like coding something now a config option to disable fire would be nice, I can't code atm 01:50 Dopium No one knows why it says im a bot? I dont even know what bots do.... 01:50 mauvebic remove the fire mod 01:50 mauvebic or disable all the abm's if you want fireplaces 01:50 MichaelEh had to work from old pics but the real problem was worldedit didn't like saving it whole 01:50 Menche delete it from the game.conf 01:51 Menche then it won't be loaded 01:51 MichaelEh campfire sheds no light. 01:51 mauvebic so use fire w/o the abms 01:51 ShadowNinja Menche:I know, but a config option would be nice for easy upgrades 01:52 mauvebic g'luck, took two weeks to get an option for legacy fly mode :p 01:52 Dopium wtf 01:53 MichaelEh Actually I was going to suggest VanessaE that somehow leaves from MoreTrees can be used to make rope and plastic. 01:53 VanessaE rope I don't know about, but leaves -> plastic would be easy enough to code. I'll do that later after I sort this out. 01:53 MichaelEh Can it be alias to just generic leaves? 01:53 VanessaE it just needs a one line change to homedecor 01:54 MichaelEh silver_ingot works in locked chests. 01:54 Doyousketch2 ShadowNinja, if you really need it, I'll make a note of it and see if I can code one in tonight or tomorrow morning. 01:54 mauvebic is it like real rope or more squareish looking? 01:54 mauvebic cuz my boats could use some 01:54 MichaelEh moreblocks has rope 01:54 mauvebic yeah but what does it look like? 01:54 MichaelEh just a cheap version of the ladder 01:54 mauvebic boats have ropes that curve 01:55 mauvebic not up and down 01:55 mauvebic or side to side 01:55 bas080 This isn't a playground? :( 01:55 mauvebic ? 01:56 ShadowNinja Doyousketch2: that would be great 01:56 mauvebic real rope would prolly require node-specific fizziks 01:57 bas080 and the reverse of a falling node 01:57 bas080 not exactly yhe reverse. 01:57 MichaelEh Thinking of hacking locked_signs to include MoreOres materials to make plaques. Including a clear sign. 01:57 bas080 and you have to be able to keep standing on it. 01:58 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#R3mT6ieQ 01:58 mauvebic well, ropes have tension, ropes can be tied around things to pull them, etc. 01:58 mauvebic none of it easy to do right now 01:58 bas080 defibrillator 01:59 bas080 Billy... Take Me to The River fish 01:59 MichaelEh MoreBlocks rope is simply a ladder with different texture. 01:59 bas080 and a whoopie cushin 02:00 MichaelEh Farming/farming_plus has string which could be used for that 02:00 Kacey night all 02:00 bas080 Making a platform that can be pulled upwards might be able to do 02:01 MichaelEh So much that can be done... not enough time which might add more bloat than use 02:01 mauvebic main problem right now seems to be overbloat lol 02:01 Doyousketch2 you know, I wish there was a simple version file in every download of minetest. 02:01 mauvebic what do you mean? 02:02 MichaelEh What about mesecons moveblock? 02:02 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix 3d model mesh leak 3b684d306c 2013-04-07T18:51:35-07:00 http://git.io/zc4jDA 02:02 bas080 vertical moveblocks have not been done? 02:02 Doyousketch2 like version.txt and it simply says "minetest 0.4.6" inside it 02:02 mauvebic oh that 02:02 mauvebic yeah it used to contain a date with it too 02:02 MichaelEh nite all 02:02 mauvebic was practical for knowing exactly which git we were running 02:03 MichaelEh QUIT 02:03 MichaelEh ack 02:03 mauvebic nite 02:03 Doyousketch2 yeah. I've got like 8 minetest dirs, and it sux having to bounce between 'em all 02:03 mauvebic you dont wanna see my desktop with all the folder compiles lol 02:03 MichaelEh what is the command to quit here? 02:03 mauvebic though if i didnt do that, i would have borked my map 02:04 Doyousketch2 Alt-F4 02:04 mauvebic the little X in the corner? 02:04 Menche quit the channel? /part #minetest quit message 02:04 MichaelEh thanks 02:04 Doyousketch2 used to use that as a prank to people in chats. Tap Alt-F4 to become Admin! 02:05 Doyousketch2 would laugh when half the room would disappear 02:05 mauvebic rm rf / lol 02:06 Menche maybe i should have put "quit message" in parentheses or brackets, he must have thought it was part of the cmd 02:09 mauvebic shit me, the ocean liner spawned 1 node away from the sea wall lol 02:15 telek mauvebic: Did you name it the Costa Concordia? :D 02:15 mauvebic naw not interested in modern boats 02:16 mauvebic im talking white star, cunard, uboats, battleships lol 02:16 sokomine ah, a white star. fine 02:16 telek =p Well Titanic would be a fine name as well :D 02:16 mauvebic that one's nearly done on the exterior 02:17 tripod anyone see the colombia minecraft vid 02:17 tripod or w/e it was 02:17 tripod based on bioshock infinite 02:17 tripod was badass 02:18 mauvebic dun ring any bells :/ 02:19 mauvebic i stopped watching MC vids when my last map became a mish-mash of styles lol 02:19 sokomine of what kind of styles? 02:20 mauvebic all of them lol 02:20 sokomine ah :-) 02:21 mauvebic new map has an area for city, an area for spaceships, and a docklands area 02:23 jordan4ibanez this http://i.imgur.com/aP4HU4T.png 02:23 jordan4ibanez or this http://i.imgur.com/zmYb53c.png 02:25 mauvebic the first 02:26 mauvebic seconds' not easy on ye olde eyes 02:26 jordan4ibanez as much as I thought 02:28 jordan4ibanez now the first or this http://i.imgur.com/IQTl1WX.png 02:28 mauvebic still have to say 1st 02:28 mauvebic though, im on an LED-backlight screen, might not look the same on ACL or CRT 02:30 jordan4ibanez Normal bricks look rather dull 02:30 mauvebic ive never seen normal bricks that look the the default ones tho 02:31 jordan4ibanez Yeah exactly, they look almost, purple 02:33 mauvebic default ones should be brown 02:33 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix memory leak on shader shutdown 2bdff11d54 2013-04-07T19:30:29-07:00 http://git.io/rqokLg 02:34 jordan4ibanez I think they should be red 02:35 jordan4ibanez any thing but purple though 02:35 jordan4ibanez even tan 02:36 jordan4ibanez I wonder if I can make terrain generation through lua with singlenode generation lol 02:37 Doc22 something that I think would be cool is random structures such as castles and dungeons, mine shafts, etc 02:38 jordan4ibanez sokomine, what mod spawned villages? 02:38 jordan4ibanez or houses 02:38 Menche villages? 02:39 Menche villages mod spawned extremely rare houses and watchtowers 02:40 jordan4ibanez no we were talking about a mod that spawned houses a couple days ago or so, and sokomine brought a mod up 02:41 mauvebic sokomines and cornernote's 02:41 jordan4ibanez can you link them? 02:41 mauvebic dont have the links but theyre on the forums 02:43 mauvebic though, last i heard sokomine was having trouble w/ world edit and buildings not spawning whole 02:56 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix inventory image texture leak abe74ea5ea 2013-04-07T19:54:00-07:00 http://git.io/tOt56A 03:01 Doc22 i am stumped about how the code generates trees across into ungenerated chunks 03:02 Doc22 wouldnt it just give the error for unloaded chunk when you generated a leaf into the unloaded/generated chunk? 03:03 Doc22 and if it loaded the chunks it generated into 03:03 Doc22 it wold spark infinite loop 03:03 Doc22 because trees would just go everywhere 03:03 Doc22 tree generates chunk a and b 03:03 Doc22 which loads b 03:03 Doc22 which loads c 03:04 Doc22 which loads d 03:04 Doc22 how does the engine handle that 03:05 Doc22 VanessaE, what class in the source handles setting blocks in chunks 03:05 Doc22 like returning the error if a chunk isnt loaded 03:05 Doc22 I have been struggling with this concept ever since i understood procedural terrain generation 03:05 VanessaE dunno, I always look for "ignore" when I am about to set a node that may be in unloaded space 03:06 Doc22 so how do you handle that, like wouldnt it cut off trees 03:06 VanessaE but if you're using on_generated(), theoretically you will never actually get an unloaded chunk 03:06 Doc22 part of it 03:06 Doc22 i dont understand... 03:06 Doc22 what if it generates a tree on the edge of a generated chunk 03:06 VanessaE oh that, hmmmm will have to explain, I'm still a little fuzzy on it. 03:07 Doc22 couldnt the chunk next to it be unloaded? 03:07 Doc22 and for things like buildings 03:07 Doc22 if you walked to it 03:07 Doc22 and then it loads and generates into a previously generated chunk 03:08 hmmmm the client makes a blank block full of CONTENT_IGNORE if it doesn't exist and it still hadn't gotten that block from the server 03:08 Doc22 so wouldnt that chop off part of the tree 03:08 Doc22 because it never gets set 03:09 hmmmm when a chunk of map gets generated, a border of blocks that isn't to be generated is also included 03:09 hmmmm so when chunksize is 5, it actually grabs a (5 + 2)^3 cube of mapblocks but only generates the center 5*5*5 03:09 Doc22 so it loads some of the blocks around it 03:09 Doc22 ok 03:10 Doc22 hmm 03:10 Doc22 so loads em but doesnt generate em? 03:10 hmmmm we count on discretely placed structures never extending more than 16 nodes outside of the edge of the chunk being generated 03:10 hmmmm right 03:10 Doc22 ok 03:10 Doc22 i see that 03:10 Doc22 helps a lot :) 03:10 Doc22 thank 03:10 Doc22 you 03:11 bas080 ShadowNinja, if it is required to get merged in order to be in the minetest credits. How come VanessaE is in the credits? 03:14 Doc22 so, theoretically, if you had a larger structure that had to be generated inside a chunk, you could increase the size of the border around the chunk? 03:27 JesseH What are some cool mods 03:28 Doc22 technic 03:28 Doc22 pilzadam's farming mod 03:28 Doc22 my farming mod 03:28 Doc22 vanessae's pipeworks mod 03:28 Doc22 vines and ropes 03:28 JesseH I was thinking of working on a farming mod, or a gun mod 03:28 Doc22 got ideas? 03:29 JesseH The farming mod, would be semi realistic Marijuana farming 03:29 Doc22 hmm 03:29 VanessaE fwiw, my server is back up and running again. 03:29 JesseH gun mod? Haven't thought on it much 03:29 Doc22 yeah 03:29 Doc22 i dont know much about entity 03:29 JesseH well, creating an actual bullet entity that traveled fast would be a waste of speed 03:29 Doc22 yeah 03:30 Menche someone, i believe kaeza, made a firearms mod 03:30 Doc22 maybe lazers 03:30 Doc22 kewl 03:30 Menche the guns actually shoot entity bullets 03:30 JesseH Is it slow? 03:30 Menche and has bazookas and rocket launchers 03:30 Menche it works fine 03:30 JesseH well I was talking more fast guns 03:30 Doc22 like realistic firing? 03:30 JesseH but something like a rocket launcher I could see why 03:30 JesseH yeah 03:30 Doc22 200 feet per sec 03:30 Menche and a pistol, assault rifle, and shotgun 03:31 Doc22 >:3 03:31 Menche kinda hard to hit players with the pistol and rifle 03:31 sdzen no pistol whipping then? 03:31 JesseH lol 03:31 Doc22 i made chains mod, docfarming, campfires mod, and camo mod 03:32 Doc22 and i think one more 03:32 Doc22 just look at my signature on forums 03:32 Doc22 im Doc on forums 03:32 JesseH well the marijuana growing mod would be for more lax play 03:32 Doc22 but Doc22 on irc 03:32 JesseH Some form of buying and selling system would make it more fun 03:32 Doc22 i honestly think that a hunger games mod would be cool 03:32 Doc22 but 03:32 JesseH having a shop to actually spend money on and what not 03:32 Doc22 i dont know how to get the world to regenerate 03:33 Doc22 and there is a shops mod 03:33 JesseH okay good 03:33 JesseH also I could work in some effects if one were to smoke the dried buds 03:33 JesseH :P 03:34 Doc22 ok 03:34 JesseH however, I wonder how much it would take to create something like ace of spades 03:34 JesseH from minetest :P 03:35 Doc22 i dont know but why? 03:35 Doc22 just play aos if thats what you want 03:35 JesseH Something open source 03:35 JesseH :) 03:36 Doc22 yeah 03:36 sdzen ace of spades isnt free anymore 03:36 JesseH that is the reason 03:36 sdzen :( 03:36 sdzen not hard 03:36 sdzen just some good weapons 03:36 JesseH I don't blame people for wanting to eat...but damn... 03:36 sdzen needed 03:36 * JesseH has never bought a game. 03:36 Doc22 lol 03:37 JesseH and all mine are opensource 03:37 Doc22 how many do you have 03:37 JesseH a few long gone, unpublished 03:37 Doc22 hmm 03:37 JesseH 2 in the works 03:37 * Menche has only ever bought minecraft and starcraft2, and rarely plays either 03:37 Doc22 look up starforge 03:38 * sdzen has bought starcraft1 and sim city classic 03:38 mauvebic wow, coulda dl'ed those easy lol 03:38 Doc22 ive bought roller coaster tycoon, roller coaster tycoon 2, roller coaster tycoon 3, locomotion, 03:39 Doc22 stronghold collection, 03:39 Doc22 and about 10 wii games 03:39 Doc22 several nintendo ds games 03:39 Doc22 lol 03:39 sdzen oh including console games? 03:39 JesseH I would start on the mod if there was demand :P 03:39 Doc22 eahh 03:39 Doc22 idk 03:39 mauvebic console games id need an emu 03:39 Doc22 i want to make hunger games mod 03:39 JesseH I just don't see too many people wanting to play AoS that havent already gave in and bought it 03:39 mauvebic wife plays classic nintendo games on the emulator 03:39 JesseH Doc22, actually yeah that would be cool too 03:39 Doc22 VanessaE how would you regenerate a chunk 03:40 Doc22 yeah i want to make one a lot 03:40 VanessaE Doc22: you'd have to delete it from the map database file. 03:40 Doc22 like for regenerating the map 03:40 JesseH Doc22, I've played some minecraft hungergame mod, like those? 03:40 Doc22 soo how would i do that in lua 03:40 VanessaE you don't. 03:40 Doc22 hmm 03:40 VanessaE there's no hook for that yet 03:40 Doc22 so i would have to do source 03:40 Doc22 ok 03:40 Doc22 thanks vanessae 03:40 JesseH dont give up the thought yet 03:40 Doc22 yeah 03:40 Menche someone mentioned manually deleting part of the database 03:40 JesseH What's your goal? 03:40 Doc22 load ma 03:40 Doc22 map 03:40 Doc22 with spawn in part of it 03:40 JesseH so reload a map 03:41 Doc22 then run it 03:41 Doc22 have spectator area 03:41 JesseH map generation or a single map 03:41 Doc22 maybe spectator status 03:41 Doc22 single map 03:41 JesseH I know that lua has binding to work with databases 03:41 JesseH This could be a fun project 03:41 JesseH bindings* 03:41 Doc22 yeah 03:41 JesseH Unless you want to do it :P 03:41 mauvebic cant you access db's with lua? 03:41 Doc22 i started it once but i never really got into it 03:42 JesseH mauvebic, Pretty much all major databases, there is some form of lua binding for 03:42 Doc22 i never knew how to regen the map with different seed 03:42 JesseH Doc22, you familiar with github? 03:42 Doc22 yes kinda 03:42 Doc22 but im also kinda a newb with it 03:42 JesseH Well I could set one up 03:42 Doc22 the extent of my knowledge is to put a mod on github 03:43 JesseH as long as you know how to make pull requests 03:43 JesseH and fork 03:43 JesseH and pull and push etc 03:43 JesseH commit 03:43 JesseH blarg 03:43 Doc22 fork is to make another version of it right? 03:43 JesseH theres a button on the github website 03:43 Doc22 pull is to get the code 03:43 JesseH know how to branch? 03:43 khonkhortisan split remote into pull/push, squash commits, rebase, move commits between branches 03:43 Doc22 and push is to request the code to be changed 03:43 Doc22 and yes i do 03:43 khonkhortisan stash 03:44 JesseH khonkhortisan, not that yet :P 03:44 Doc22 i dont quite understand it 03:44 khonkhortisan push is to change the code remotely, you're thinking of pull request 03:44 Doc22 where is good documentation? 03:44 JesseH google probably has something 03:44 Doc22 eahh im just wondering if there is something someone reccomends 03:44 JesseH don't quote me I just discovered internet yesterday 03:45 Doc22 lol 03:45 JesseH im just trolling ya :P 03:45 Doc22 ik 03:45 JesseH no offense 03:45 Doc22 im joking too 03:45 JesseH ,3 03:45 Doc22 playing along :P 03:45 JesseH <# 03:45 Doc22 thats how i am 03:45 JesseH xD 03:45 JesseH http://try.github.io/levels/1/challenges/1 03:45 JesseH got 15 minutes? 03:45 JesseH and want to learn git? 03:45 JesseH :P 03:45 khonkhortisan I learned about git whenever I couldn't get it to do what I wanted 03:45 JesseH khonkhortisan you 2 prah for meh 03:46 JesseH xD 03:46 JesseH Doc22, if you and I are the only ones who want a hunger games mod, then it might not be worth the effort. 03:46 Doc22 yeah 03:46 Doc22 if i had something to show 03:46 JesseH Just a concept really 03:46 Doc22 then it may attract people 03:46 JesseH if someone cant use their imagination then f them :P 03:46 Doc22 the extent of what i did is make trees uneditable 03:46 JesseH that is only for irc-ers though 03:46 Doc22 yeah 03:47 Doc22 the problem is 03:47 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix memory leak on sound shutdown e7247c1a66 2013-04-07T20:43:34-07:00 http://git.io/9XrOvA 03:47 Doc22 how realistic should it be 03:47 JesseH You cant get wood from trees? ?!!?! 03:47 Doc22 idk 03:47 Doc22 sticks 03:47 Doc22 then wood 03:47 Doc22 i was thinking making it uneditable 03:47 * JesseH turns up music 03:47 JesseH :/ 03:47 Doc22 but im just stupid like that O:L 03:47 JesseH xD 03:47 JesseH I want to add scriptable robots xD 03:48 Doc22 yeah 03:48 Doc22 something like the computercraft mod for minecrap would be cool 03:48 khonkhortisan Use lua for the robots 03:48 Doc22 (no that is not a typo) 03:48 JesseH khonkhortisan, always :) 03:48 JesseH I enjoyed minecraft :P 03:48 Doc22 i do too 03:48 NotReallyNick Yay! 03:48 JesseH xD 03:48 * NotReallyNick 's favourite new features are usually bug fixes 03:48 Doc22 i am 50/50 between minetest and minecraft 03:49 Doc22 but i like minetest's community better 03:49 JesseH well the last time I played minetest, the servers all lagged, and I got some memory leakage 03:49 JesseH oh yeah I do too 03:49 JesseH its open source 03:49 JesseH uses lua 03:49 Doc22 yeah 03:49 JesseH what more could a hobbyist ask for 03:49 Doc22 all that good stuff 03:49 Doc22 ikr 03:49 JesseH I don't PLAY it much 03:49 JesseH but thats because I havent made any mods that I like yet 03:50 Doc22 minetest needs better performance 03:50 khonkhortisan I'm trying that challenge, and it wants me to commit -m 03:50 Doc22 hmm 03:50 JesseH commit -m "message" 03:50 Doc22 ... 03:50 Doc22 soo bored 03:50 khonkhortisan I always use my text editor for that 03:50 Doc22 doo dee dum 03:50 Doc22 dah doo deeee 03:51 Doc22 dit doo dahhhh 03:51 JesseH Doc22, why not work on that mod ? 03:51 Doc22 idk 03:51 JesseH Get to work ._. 03:51 Doc22 im too lazy right nauw 03:51 JesseH I'm not paying you for nothing 03:51 Doc22 ._. 03:51 Doc22 you arent paying me at all ._. 03:51 Doc22 :P: 03:51 Doc22 O:L 03:51 Doc22 whats this? 03:51 Doc22 a fly in my drink? 03:51 Doc22 I HATE FLIES 03:51 Doc22 DIEEEE 03:52 Doc22 DIEIEEEE 03:52 Doc22 HWAAAAA 03:52 khonkhortisan /whisper "backstroke" 03:52 Doc22 FLY SWATTER FOR YOU 03:52 Doc22 lo 03:52 Doc22 lol 03:52 mauvebic http://www.zimg.eu/i/85700524 03:52 Doc22 hey, anyone want a red bumper sticker shaped like a fly swatter? 03:52 Doc22 >:3 03:52 khonkhortisan mauve, that's really not what it's supposed to be used for 03:52 JesseH Doc22, i shall help you with your mod 03:52 mauvebic what is? 03:52 Doc22 im not actually working on it right now 03:53 khonkhortisan minetest loading fancy models 03:53 Doc22 im working on a video game 03:53 JesseH Doc22, oh well when you stop being lazy, I shall help you 03:53 JesseH and I am too, whatcha working on 03:53 mauvebic lol so what? 03:53 Doc22 voxel engine 03:53 Doc22 with auto updater etc 03:53 JesseH Doc22, oh? lua scripting? 03:53 Doc22 i got that down 03:53 Doc22 and no 03:53 Doc22 not lua 03:53 JesseH oh well im uninterested 03:53 Doc22 java 03:53 JesseH get lua and well talk 03:53 JesseH omg gtfo 03:53 JesseH go away 03:53 Doc22 uninterested 03:53 Doc22 lol 03:53 JesseH :( 03:53 khonkhortisan get luajit and we'll talk faster 03:53 JesseH :) 03:53 Doc22 thats what u said 03:53 JesseH <3 Lua 03:53 JesseH lua all the time 03:54 Doc22 lol 03:54 mauvebic people at MC use the same thing actually 03:54 JesseH luajit compares to c speeds ;) suck it 03:54 Doc22 i dont see why i would use it instead of java 03:54 mauvebic you didn't think they built everything by hand? 03:54 Doc22 im not at that point yet 03:54 JesseH java is about as fast, as something dead 03:54 JesseH something REALLY dead 03:54 JesseH like 03:54 JesseH you get it 03:54 Doc22 yeah 03:54 Doc22 ik 03:54 JesseH :P 03:54 Doc22 but i dont see why i want to use lua 03:54 Menche minetest runs fine on my netbook; minecraft lags on the start screen 03:54 Doc22 right now 03:54 JesseH Oh tell me moar about how its multiplatform 03:55 Doc22 because it would be simpler for me to have it with java 03:55 Doc22 oh ok 03:55 NotReallyNick Menche: Yeah, on my laptop too. 03:55 Doc22 well 03:55 JesseH I could write a voxel engine with lua + ogre faster then any java voxel engine :P 03:55 Doc22 its just multiplatform 03:55 Doc22 i know you could 03:55 JesseH xD 03:55 Doc22 but i just wanna make it java 03:55 Doc22 because 03:55 Doc22 it 03:55 JesseH Doc22, im just trolling you use whatever you want 03:55 Doc22 is 03:55 Doc22 easier 03:55 Doc22 and more powerful 03:55 JesseH because you understand it more 03:55 Doc22 in my opinion 03:55 Doc22 and i know you are 03:55 JesseH xD 03:55 Doc22 yeah 03:56 JesseH use whatever I love all languages 03:56 Doc22 yeah 03:56 JesseH except c# 03:56 Doc22 yeah 03:56 JesseH :P 03:56 Doc22 yeah 03:56 JesseH xD 03:56 Doc22 yeah 03:56 JesseH <3 03:56 Doc22 no 03:56 JesseH :( 03:56 JesseH too soon? 03:56 Doc22 yeah 03:56 Doc22 lol 03:56 JesseH what am i gonna do with this ring ;_; 03:57 Doc22 i gtg 03:57 Doc22 and im not gay... 03:57 * JesseH scared him off 03:57 JesseH :( 03:57 NotReallyNick Bye. 03:57 JesseH maybe im a sexy girl 03:57 JesseH you never know 03:57 Doc22 bye 03:58 JesseH bye 03:58 JesseH lol 03:58 mauvebic ugh this chat is hard to fllow, try stringing the ones into coherent sentences :P 03:58 NotReallyNick Meh. I'm to asexy to care. 03:58 mauvebic *follow 03:58 JesseH lol 03:58 mauvebic *ones = words lol 03:58 JesseH :P 03:58 JesseH whoooo are you 03:59 JesseH who who 03:59 JesseH who who 03:59 JesseH http://imgur.com/F0wIVef 03:59 JesseH made that a second ago 03:59 NotReallyNick Well, you may not know who I am, but you know who I'm not. I'm not Nick. 03:59 Hwkiller there is no such thign as an iron ingot, right? 04:00 Menche right, they're called steel_ingot here 04:00 NotReallyNick In Minetest, there are steel ingots, but no iron ingots. 04:00 khonkhortisan http://imgur.com/gallery/1nbSf 04:07 khonkhortisan 1.19 I already knew what to type 04:10 Hwkiller a craft recipe calls for iron ingots 04:11 Hwkiller hm 04:11 Hwkiller lol 04:12 mauvebic lol 04:12 Menche where? 04:13 sdzen we need to rename the ingots 04:13 Hwkiller it's in a mod 04:13 sdzen idk who thought iron smelts directly to steel 04:13 Hwkiller in moreblocks 04:13 Hwkiller it calls for iron ingots 04:13 sdzen yeah it just means steel ingot 04:13 sdzen there is only the one thing 04:13 sdzen but so long as we cant add a small amount of carbon 04:14 sdzen we cant call it steel :) 04:14 Menche coal = carbon? 04:14 mauvebic carbonite would be cool 04:14 sdzen we could do it that way :) 04:14 NotReallyNick I use logs and leaves to smelt, never coal. 04:14 mauvebic i hear its superconductive? 04:14 sdzen goodbye #minetest, happy plotting 04:15 NotReallyNick Sometimes, I also use saplings. 04:15 Hwkiller in the 'craft guide' mod, I'm only seeing a few available craft recipes. 04:18 mauvebic craft guides seem to be notoriously buggy 04:19 mauvebic wow even with chance =1, abm on water runs pretty fast 04:41 Hwkiller ah, apparently the craft_guide I was using was out of date 04:41 Hwkiller like, someone forked it to fix it 04:42 Hwkiller also realized that farming wasn't working; it was missing "wool" even though that's in /usr/share/minetest/games/common 04:45 Hwkiller so apparently when you make a gametype, you have to manually pull down the mods from the /usr/share/games/* directories? 04:45 Hwkiller it won't auto-pull from common and such? 04:47 NotReallyNick A game only pulls from common if set to do so. 04:48 Hwkiller and survival doesn't? 04:48 NotReallyNick For example, minetest_game and build pull wool from common, but survival does not. 04:48 NotReallyNick Right, survival doesn't pull wool. 04:48 Hwkiller is there a reason for that? 04:49 Hwkiller actually... what mobs/animals/etc come by default for survival? 04:49 khonkhortisan There's no sheep to kill for wool 04:49 NotReallyNick Because there is no way to get wool in survival. 04:49 mauvebic cotton plants 04:49 khonkhortisan It can't be done, so make it so it can't be done 04:49 mauvebic its not wool but its close enuf :P 04:49 NotReallyNick There's no way to get wool in build or survival either, so a better question would be why it IS pulled in those games. 04:50 mauvebic likely pressure to do so 04:50 NotReallyNick *build or minetest_game 04:50 mauvebic ya'll always saying the game is not about realism :P 04:50 mauvebic is it or isnt it? i guess it depends on the issue :P 04:51 mauvebic make it grow in trees and under rocks :p 04:52 NotReallyNick On one of my old worlds, I set it up so digging dirt with grass dropped the dirt AND a random dye or white wool. 04:53 mauvebic im not entirely sure how dye is really extracted IRL lol flowers seemed close enough 04:54 NotReallyNick But we don't have the API features to do flowers well yet, according to VanessaE. 04:54 mauvebic historically it sounds like a long process of discovery, with each new color becoming a fashion trend (way back when) 04:54 mauvebic flowers have always worked? 04:54 mauvebic nature mod is one of the oldest 04:54 VanessaE we don't have in-engine features in mapgen v6 yet, no. 04:54 mauvebic well whats wrong with the present method? 04:54 VanessaE v7 will have, though. 04:55 NotReallyNick The ABMs cause lag or something. I'm not clear on the details of why we can't spawn flowers that way. 04:55 mauvebic find grass, if air on top, place flower 04:55 VanessaE mauvebic: nothing except it depends on Lua to do all the heavy lifting 04:55 mauvebic i do much heavier things in lua, theres something up with your abm then 04:55 mauvebic how much does it try to do at once? 04:55 NotReallyNick So version seven will fix it? Good. I see people have been working on fixing that up. 04:56 mauvebic right now: im using an ABM to fill a large area with water, creating an ocean, FPS roughly 25 while running 04:57 NotReallyNick Flowers aren't that pretty, but are functional. I wouldn't mind seeing your poison ivy in common either. I love it for decorating "old" buildings. 04:58 NotReallyNick Poison ivy would be darn right awesome in my tunnel, but I'd never be able to grow it fast enough to make that work, unless I could grow it in place somehow. 04:59 mauvebic chunk filling w/ abm: http://www.zimg.eu/i/704755804 05:00 Hwkiller hm... can we not destroy steel doors? 05:00 khonkhortisan Other people can't 05:00 Hwkiller nvm; done w/ a sword for some reason 05:01 khonkhortisan I'm trying to reassign the "for" keyword within a lua sandbox, and it's not working. The lua interpreter outside the sandbox keeps trying to interpret it. 05:03 mauvebic doesnt sound like fun :p 05:04 khonkhortisan {for = myfunction} 05:04 mauvebic can you reassign keywords? 05:04 khonkhortisan idk 05:04 mauvebic whats it for? 05:04 khonkhortisan luacontrollers 05:04 khonkhortisan The way it prohibits looping keywords is with a string search, which catches "--for" and "fork = spoon" 05:05 mauvebic well, if i had to do it, instead of reimplementing lua, i would have come up with a simple markup 05:05 khonkhortisan I want lua to figure out whether it's a real call 05:06 khonkhortisan like how microcontrollers work? 05:08 mauvebic well, using lua within lua can be confusing :p 05:09 khonkhortisan using lua within lua is fine, it's _not_ using lua in lua that's difficult :) 05:09 mauvebic well thats what i mean you have to account for every lua function you dont want people using :P 05:09 mauvebic and differentiate between the two levels 05:10 khonkhortisan it's whitelisting for functions, then I'm attempting blacklisting for keywords 05:11 khonkhortisan it's a table: {print = safeprint, tostring = tostring, etc.} 05:11 mauvebic and people say my mods have no place in a voxel world lol 05:12 mauvebic sounds tricky 05:13 mauvebic lol those crazy koreans getting ready to test a missile 05:14 mauvebic i wish china would invade them and get it over w/ 05:14 mauvebic china has like, empty cities 05:14 mauvebic brand spanking new 05:14 khonkhortisan the koreans can't just invade the koreans? 05:15 mauvebic either that or end the war 05:15 mauvebic weather its one oligopoly or another ruling the north, what does it matter? lol 05:22 * khonkhortisan just checked 05:22 khonkhortisan the lua people say it can't be done 05:23 mauvebic i didn't think so :/ 05:23 NotReallyNick My would your plugins have no place in Minetest? 05:23 NotReallyNick It seems like you build some pretty cool stuff. 05:24 mauvebic how should i know? lol the whole "voxel world" refrain comes up whenever someone doesn't like something :p 05:24 mauvebic but they usually turn around and create something just as convoluted lol 05:24 NotReallyNick Have you made any non-voxel nodes? I haven't seen any. 05:24 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't support angled cubes 05:25 NotReallyNick You're the one building the mesh voxelizer, right? 05:25 mauvebic yep 05:25 mauvebic *built 05:25 khonkhortisan what sense does it make to have to load the block to get a node? Shouldn't getting a node load the block to get the node? 05:25 NotReallyNick Oh, it's done? My bad. 05:25 mauvebic technically, i built the reader 05:25 mauvebic and spawner 05:25 mauvebic the actual voxelizer was written by someone at stanford or MIT 05:26 NotReallyNick It builds things out of the standard nodes, so people can't claim it's any less voxelly than anything else. 05:26 mauvebic people tend to accept concepts that are already established in MC, but if its completely new, then they claim it has no place lol and complain were making a clone lol 05:27 khonkhortisan it's turning something non-voxel into voxel. Its inheritance can show through 05:28 khonkhortisan whatever that mean- 05:28 khonkhortisan *means 05:28 mauvebic though, i have plenty of nodeboxes too, and i dont think theyre out of place here 05:29 mauvebic and when people write complicated routines to get round and angled nodes, and vote down the concept of true round and angled nodes, well that confuses the fuck out of me lol 05:30 NotReallyNick I don't know. At least I'm consistent, and don't like either. 05:30 mauvebic well people are free not to use them, but depriving others because people personally disagree w/ it, thats just dumb 05:31 mauvebic you dont get more variety by limiting options 05:31 NotReallyNick I'm only for/against things being added to default, mostly. Once it's in default, there's no escaping it without writing a custom default. 05:32 mauvebic i stopped using minetest game with that whole mese fiasco lol 05:32 NotReallyNick Adding things in plugins give more choices, and is almost always a good thing. 05:32 mauvebic so whatever they do to it now, i have my game 05:32 khonkhortisan I ignore gameplay changes until I have to update 05:32 mauvebic well yeah, the more API the better 05:32 NotReallyNick I don't mean minetest_game, I mean just the default plugin, as it's pretty much needed for mapgen. 05:33 mauvebic well yeah, though my copy of default was split some time ago now 05:33 NotReallyNick I use a custom game, but I need default, so when annoying things are added to it ..... 05:33 mauvebic i doubt id recognize the new default and game 05:33 NotReallyNick I see. 05:34 NotReallyNick I use the new common system. 05:34 mauvebic its always a can of worms everytime they touch it anyhow lol 05:34 NotReallyNick The new common system is pretty close to the system I always thought we SHOULD have. It's not quite, but close enough. 05:35 mauvebic i still dont much get the common systems, seems complicated, and people proposing multiple commons makes me think the old way was simpler/better 05:35 mauvebic i might have gone the python way: import modname from gamename 05:36 mauvebic then you keep minetest_game up to date and all other games are automatically so 05:36 NotReallyNick I think we need one directory where ALL the plugins are put. Then each world or each game chooses which to use. None would be only accessible from one game. 05:36 Hwkiller +1 05:36 mauvebic so basically youd just have game description files 05:37 NotReallyNick mauvebic: Exactly. 05:37 mauvebic but what happens when you need a custom default, custom mapgen.lua, etc. ? 05:37 mauvebic you cant have two 05:37 khonkhortisan mapgen = mapgen2? 05:37 NotReallyNick Name it something different. "gamename_mapgen", or something. 05:37 mauvebic mpagen.lua where all the aliases are 05:38 NotReallyNick Or, your import method works too. I mostly typed mine before you submitted yours, so it wasn't meant to be contradictory. 05:38 mauvebic i dunno, i didn't really see a problem with the old system tbh 05:38 khonkhortisan I don't trust weather to not contaminate my pure mesecon world 05:38 NotReallyNick I don't see the point in weather. 05:39 khonkhortisan realism! 05:39 mauvebic import method is better than just symlink which doesnt work in win aparently 05:39 mauvebic but i symlinked my mods to the game folders before 05:39 khonkhortisan You go out in the storm, there's a flash of lightning, and you see a mob in front of you! 05:39 NotReallyNick The world is made on boxes. As long as that continues to be true, we'll never have realism. 05:40 mauvebic realism in the sense of an intense 3d game no 05:40 mauvebic but when you put time into building something thats real, you aim for as-precise-as-possible 05:40 khonkhortisan Even the people who use blender for a living say there isn't realism 05:40 NotReallyNick I don't know. I think weather will be added to the engine. I just hope there's a way to disable it on a per-world basis. 05:40 VanessaE well I think I'll hit the sack. Night all. 05:40 NotReallyNick Good night. 05:40 mauvebic nite 05:41 Hwkiller I need to figure out what is redundant between my mods and 4.6... 05:41 mauvebic they cant add weather without being able to disable it, some old hardware cant handle that 05:41 NotReallyNick Good luck. 4.6 isn't out yet. 05:41 mauvebic and even the able dont want to put resources on it 05:41 mauvebic (all ) 05:41 khonkhortisan If I can get it to not add actual nodes, I'm fine with it 05:41 mauvebic (not all) 05:41 Hwkiller ... .4.6? 05:42 NotReallyNick 4.s isn't out. We have 0.4.6. 05:42 NotReallyNick *4.6 05:42 Hwkiller oh my god. 05:42 Hwkiller how pedantic can one be 05:42 mauvebic im sure someones' available for a crusade :P 05:42 mauvebic lol 05:42 mauvebic like the linux kernel versioning thing 05:43 mauvebic then end up going with both 05:43 khonkhortisan I still have to convince someone on another channel to use "its" in place of "it's" 05:43 mauvebic makes you think if they focused less on politics and more on code... lol 05:43 mauvebic dont bother :p 05:43 NotReallyNick Let me guess. Windows user? I think I've noticed a pattern, and the only people I've seen purposely using the wrong version have been Windows users. I'd love to see how long that pattern continues. 05:43 khonkhortisan but they say it over and over 05:44 Hwkiller me? 05:44 NotReallyNick Yeah. 05:44 mauvebic yeah but the more you bug people about the more they go out of their way to piss you off 05:44 Hwkiller Me a windows user? Surely you're kidding 05:44 khonkhortisan Then you see who lasts the longest 05:45 NotReallyNick Okay, pattern broken. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. 05:45 mauvebic people are argumentative enough IRL, especially at work, and it takes my all not to deck some of them lol 05:45 khonkhortisan But you don't know if the windowmanager is windows-like 05:45 Hwkiller I just think it's asinine to correct someone who says "4.6" instead of ".4.6" when EVERYONE HERE Knows that there is no 4.6, and that 4.6 must mean .4.6 05:45 NotReallyNick Window managers are of little consern to me. 05:46 khonkhortisan and 0.1 is the same as .1 05:46 mauvebic i usually just say 046 05:46 mauvebic people get it 05:46 NotReallyNick I think it's asinine to use the incorect version number, KNOWING it's the incorect version number. 05:46 Hwkiller but there is no version fourty six, you must mean 0.4.6 05:46 Hwkiller ... 05:46 mauvebic if they point out the lack of dots, i tell them where they can put it lol 05:46 khonkhortisan 046 is hex or binary 05:46 mauvebic 0x46 would be hex 05:47 NotReallyNick Bibary can't have 4s or 6s. 05:47 NotReallyNick *binary 05:47 mauvebic point is, if people have the energy to point that out, they should go build something or get laid 05:47 NotReallyNick What even is "bibery"? Bibs for the young ones? I need to hit the correct keys more often. 05:48 mauvebic i get the feeling alot of people here are single lol 05:48 NotReallyNick Getting laid isn't for everyone. 05:48 mauvebic wouldn't hurt for some 05:48 NotReallyNick Some, probaby. 05:48 NotReallyNick *probably 05:48 khonkhortisan probibally 05:48 mauvebic *prolly :p 05:49 NotReallyNick I wonder if I'm the only asexual of the group .... 05:49 khonkhortisan shoulda coulda woulda alot couldn't've irregardless! 05:49 mauvebic cant blame you, knock up the wrong women and youre in for 18 years of support 05:50 mauvebic in the age of feminism and abortion, forcing someone through the courts to support a kid they dont want... lol 05:50 NotReallyNick Asexuallity isn't a choice, so it's not like I'm trying to avoid unwanted pregnancies or something. 05:51 khonkhortisan Well it's definitely not dna 05:51 mauvebic i doubt orientation is a choice at all 05:51 mauvebic who would chose to put up with so much bullshit? lol 05:51 NotReallyNick I don't know. I was born without sexuality. DNA or not, there nothing to do about it. 05:52 mauvebic ill take a big fat blind gay guy over a religious wingnut any day lol 05:52 khonkhortisan I really don't know where that variable would be stored 05:53 NotReallyNick Well yeah, fat gays are not annoying. 05:53 mauvebic sorry, meant black fat blind gay guy (from king of the hill) 05:53 NotReallyNick Well, some might be, but they aren't by definition annoying. 05:54 NotReallyNick I don't watch that. It used to give me headaches. 05:54 mauvebic being annoying isn't limited to one race, religion, orientation or nationality 05:54 mauvebic i loved KOTH, satirizes so much of the bullshit of our age lol 05:54 NotReallyNick "religious wingnut". It's not the religion alone that is annoying. 05:55 mauvebic the whole concept that when a person believes in something he must be right and anyone who disagrees wrong...its fascism 05:56 mauvebic and the fascist usually had the church's backing 05:57 mauvebic honestly, if i had the means, id be living in a cabin, far up north, away from people lol 06:00 mauvebic course, when i hear stories about my great-grandpa shooting in the vicinity of any stranger approaching his property, i know where i get my antisocialness from lol 06:00 NotReallyNick Ha ha. 06:00 mauvebic id go w/ a high voltage electric fence 06:44 mauvebic coffee at 3am? why not (if anyone asks, im getting it ready for our euro-area members :P) 06:45 NotReallyNick Yeah, that's it. That's all you're doing. 06:45 mauvebic still building a giant ocean actually :p 06:45 NotReallyNick Come to think of it, I should do the same. 06:45 NotReallyNick Not the ocean, the preparation. I'm not building an ocean. 06:46 mauvebic cant sleep, clown 'ill eat me 06:46 mauvebic meh i cant do coffee in advance, i have to grind it 06:46 mauvebic whats the point of freshly ground if you ground it last night heh? 06:47 NotReallyNick Yeah, it probably will eat you. Even if it won't try to eat you if you sleep, it doesn't hurt to play it safe and just stay up. 06:48 mauvebic actually my wife still has 1 nightshift a week, and i know how frustrating that can be so i always stay up till she gets home 06:48 NotReallyNick That's nice of you. 06:48 mauvebic shit i did for 4 years 06:48 mauvebic *did it 06:48 mauvebic got robbed a few times too, though where she is she's not alone 06:49 mauvebic otherwise id telll her to screw the nightshifts lol 06:53 mauvebic http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/04/08/042231/resurrecting-the-linux-game-tome?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 07:18 Doyousketch2 I think I found what ShadowNinja|Away was asking about 07:19 NotReallyNick What was he talking about? I wasn't here. 07:19 Doyousketch2 he was asking why fire was burning dirt out from under his house 07:21 NotReallyNick Fire burns dirt? Since when? 07:21 Doyousketch2 It think the prob comes in between lines 173 - 188 - https://github.com/minetest/common/blob/master/mods/fire/init.lua 07:23 NotReallyNick That only hits nodes in the flammable group. Dirt isn't in that group. 07:23 Doyousketch2 er, 173 - 183. it random maths, checks for p, ends, then removes a node 07:24 NotReallyNick Where p is always nil or a node in the flammable group. 07:26 NotReallyNick Because of line 175. 07:26 Doyousketch2 175 was ended tho 07:28 NotReallyNick That block isn't ended until p is no longer needed. Uless I'm missing something. 07:28 NotReallyNick *Unless 07:28 Doyousketch2 I dunno, I'm too tired to code. I tried. I'll read it again in the morning. 07:30 Doyousketch2 I was prolly reading it as p0, 'cuz the next line down reads that way 07:30 NotReallyNick Ah, that would make sense. 08:10 markveidemanis I think i have fixed the creative+inventory_plus thing 08:12 markveidemanis But the creative screen is the craft screen if the creatove mode is disables 08:57 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7367428 08:57 markveidemanis I want to return nothing to the player when he digs a node 09:22 markveidemanis http://ifunny.mobi/#GE7sYxcZ LOL 10:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:19 NotReallyNick Hello, PilzAdam! 10:22 NotReallyNick I'm having the oddest issue. Group-based ABMs continue to apply to nodes that have been re-registered with the group removed. 10:22 PilzAdam how have your re-registered the nodes? 10:23 PilzAdam with register_node(":mod:name")? 10:24 NotReallyNick Yeah. And I also put the original node's plugin into depends.txt. 10:25 NotReallyNick It's an exact copy of the original registration, but with tht : prefix added and the group removed. 10:25 PilzAdam it might be that register_abm() converts the group to nodenames when registering 10:26 NotReallyNick Hmm. So nodes registered after the ABM would also be unaffected? 10:26 NotReallyNick Hmm. 10:26 * PilzAdam looks at the code 10:29 PilzAdam seems like the abms are stored in minetest.registered_abms and are read when the env gets creted 10:29 PilzAdam *created 10:29 PilzAdam wtf 10:29 PilzAdam 18 unread notifications on github >:-( 10:30 NotReallyNick So it should respond to me removing the group during startup .... 10:30 NotReallyNick Hmm.... 10:31 NotReallyNick Unless C++ is keeping the old registered groups. 10:31 NotReallyNick Lua is reading the change just fine. 10:31 markveidemanis I need to return no items when a player digs something 10:31 markveidemanis if playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] == "Creative" then 10:31 markveidemanis That probably explains most of the problem 10:32 markveidemanis Help... 10:32 NotReallyNick Look in creative. It has the code you need, but I forget which function it overrides to do it. 10:33 NotReallyNick It might be handle_node_drops(). 10:33 NotReallyNick Have that check the player's mode, then do whatever accordingly. 10:34 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, no, Lua handles minetest.registered_abms until the env gets created 10:34 PilzAdam before that the core does nothing with it 10:34 PilzAdam can you check if the node gets overriden correclty? (by dumping it to the console after a second or so) 10:35 NotReallyNick No, I mean maybe the register_node() might not be overwriting the old node definition with the new one properly. So maybe the node still IS in the group, according to C++. Maybe the ABM isn't the one failing. 10:35 NotReallyNick Okay. I'll go dump it. 10:38 NotReallyNick minetest.after(3, function() 10:38 NotReallyNick print(dump(minetest.registered_nodes["fire:basic_flame"])) 10:38 NotReallyNick end) 10:38 NotReallyNick This shows the group removed, though it still acts as though it wasn't. 10:39 PilzAdam odd 10:39 NotReallyNick Yeah. 10:41 * PilzAdam compiled the new not leaking Minetest 10:41 markveidemanis is there a minetest on_dig 10:41 NotReallyNick Nice. I wonder how much better that will perform. 10:41 NotReallyNick Yeah. 10:41 PilzAdam markveidemanis, read the API doc 10:41 markveidemanis this is what i got: http://pastie.org/7368354 10:42 NotReallyNick I wonder if the memory leaks were causing the F10 segfaults. 10:42 PilzAdam probably not 10:43 markveidemanis Can minetestbot query me when there is a GIT update? :D 10:43 markveidemanis Hi MinetestBot 10:43 markveidemanis Why is he not here? 10:43 NotReallyNick You could probably set up some sort of notification from Github. 10:44 markveidemanis Nvm, how do i go about the dig thing 10:44 markveidemanis on_dig or on_punchnode 10:44 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/149 10:44 NotReallyNick Go about what? 10:44 markveidemanis because now i place and it does not take items but when i dig i get items 10:46 NotReallyNick markveidemanis: you need to overwrite the done drop handler, not use on_*. 10:47 NotReallyNick *node drop 10:47 markveidemanis It worked when i used env.remove_node(pos) 10:54 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, you actually have to override on_placenode() and return true if no item should be taken away 10:54 PilzAdam markveidemanis, sure, because that isnt related to a player 10:55 markveidemanis if playerdata[pname]['gamemode'] == "Creative" then #i need the next line 10:55 PilzAdam return true 10:55 jojoa1997|Tablet ilzAdam if i can make a way toi switch gamemodes then could it be added to common 10:55 PilzAdam and thet in on_placenode() 10:55 jojoa1997|Tablet markv are you talking about creative changer 10:55 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: He wanted no item to be given when digging. It didn't have to do with placing nodes, he had that part coded already. 10:55 PilzAdam oh 10:55 PilzAdam yea, then you need to override hande_node_drops 10:55 Leoneof hello o/ 10:56 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam have you seen the inventory i have made 10:56 PilzAdam not yet 10:56 markveidemanis Mines better! its bigger, BIgger is better ALWAYS 10:56 markveidemanis If you get what i mean 10:56 jojoa1997|Tablet please try it 10:56 NotReallyNick Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. 10:56 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, you still need to find a file sharing service that gives you a direct download link to the .zip 10:56 jojoa1997|Tablet also i will work on it more so there can be different inventypes 10:57 jojoa1997|Tablet i have gotten dropbox 10:58 PilzAdam Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. <- Smaller is often better, it depends on the context. 10:58 PilzAdam * https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua 11:00 jojoa1997_Tablet i am uploading the same version but with dropbox 11:00 jojoa1997_Tablet does dropbox give direct downloads 11:00 PilzAdam IIRC yes 11:01 jojoa1997_Tablet https://www.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip 11:01 jojoa1997_Tablet does that give direct? 11:02 ruskie yes with wget 11:02 PilzAdam https://dl.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip?token_hash=AAH1_SBa4Ro2mhNMbDMWfJYguR7dKrd9zKWt0r53wOpLag&dl=1 11:02 jojoa1997_Tablet wait 11:02 PilzAdam thats the direct link 11:02 jojoa1997_Tablet https://dl.dropbox.com/s/rh2wn8a8fy948cb/MiniTest_dev_1_0.zip?token_hash=AAH1_SBa4Ro2mhNMbDMWfJYguR7dKrd9zKWt0r53wOpLag&dl=1 11:02 jojoa1997_Tablet lol 11:02 ruskie wget gets the original link as well 11:02 jojoa1997_Tablet ok can you put that on topic 11:02 PilzAdam remove the old one? 11:02 jojoa1997_Tablet yesw 11:03 jojoa1997_Tablet this is the same version 11:03 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: I just re-registered cobble, after removing the stone group, to test the group overriding. I can't craft a pick from cobble now. I don't get it, removing groups removes group-based crafts, but it doesn't remove group-based ABMs .... 11:03 jojoa1997_Tablet is there a way i can check for creative 11:03 NotReallyNick if minetest.setting_getbool("creative_mode") then 11:04 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, remove the ABM from minetest.registered_abms and re-register it 11:04 markveidemanis jojoa do you want to see my inventory? 11:04 markveidemanis It switches by command 11:04 markveidemanis And works with inventory plus 11:04 markveidemanis AND has a bigger inventory 11:04 PilzAdam jojoa1997_Tablet, why do you have .git in the .zip? 11:04 NotReallyNick How do I remove it? I can't set it to nil, as it's indexed by an unknown number. 11:05 PilzAdam find the index and use table.remove(minetest.registered_abms, index) 11:05 jojoa1997_Tablet idk 11:05 jojoa1997_Tablet oh that is what comes in when you download a file from github 11:05 NotReallyNick How do you find the index though? There's no way of knowing. 11:05 jojoa1997_Tablet that is how they know what is the same 11:06 PilzAdam jojoa1997_Tablet, the .git is for git repos 11:06 jojoa1997_Tablet yeah 11:06 jojoa1997_Tablet i never removed it 11:06 PilzAdam 13:06:35: ERROR[geThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (-332,4,1007) (block (-21,0,62)) 11:06 PilzAdam wtf have you done? 11:07 jojoa1997_Tablet i dont know 11:07 jojoa1997_Tablet i thought that was an engine bug 11:07 PilzAdam it isnt 11:07 PilzAdam you told the engine to place a not registered node 11:08 jojoa1997_Tablet it is probably renaming every ******* node 11:08 jojoa1997_Tablet i will check 11:08 PilzAdam jojoa1997_Tablet, you have to set the width of the crafting list to 2 11:08 PilzAdam otherwise you cant craft there correctly 11:08 jojoa1997_Tablet ? 11:08 jojoa1997_Tablet i did 11:08 jojoa1997_Tablet look in inventory 11:09 PilzAdam also, there is no workbench 11:09 jojoa1997_Tablet hay you know what go light on me 11:09 PilzAdam you have to call this method: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1376 11:09 jojoa1997_Tablet sorry but i cant fix anything now or for like a week 11:09 rubenwardy can this be sticky-ed? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4541 11:10 PilzAdam then just write down the bugs somwere and fix them later 11:10 PilzAdam rubenwardy, of course not 11:10 jojoa1997_Tablet the thing is i have no idea what the bugs are and i cant play minetest on my computer cause it has become unusable 11:11 jojoa1997_Tablet that is why i am pushing minetest for android to get done 11:11 PilzAdam thats why I report them to you 11:11 PilzAdam play sounds when removing nodes in creative 11:12 jojoa1997_Tablet maybe your superior modding abilities could help 11:12 PilzAdam and change /gamemode_0 to /gamemode 0 11:12 jojoa1997_Tablet i dont have the time to do everything on my tablet either 11:12 jojoa1997_Tablet it doesnt work 11:12 PilzAdam the way you remove the nodes in creative is not good 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet /gamemode 0 is taken as /gamemode 11:13 PilzAdam the way you remove the nodes in creative is not good 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet i know 11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet i didnt make theat part of the code 11:13 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes, you have to check the param that is passed to the function 11:14 jojoa1997|Tablet i have to go. if you want it fixed within a week then you or someone else will have to work on it 11:14 PilzAdam I dont care about when you fix it 11:15 NotReallyNick So ... Why did Jojoa take over you Minitest? 11:15 rubenwardy wow sapier, lots of mem leak work done 11:15 rubenwardy ... not here 11:15 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, he wanted to help me restructure the whole thing 11:16 NotReallyNick Ah, that's nice of him. 11:16 PilzAdam and it turned out that he did everything on his 11:16 PilzAdam +own 11:16 PilzAdam and he also cant access github anymore, so I cant review his code 11:17 NotReallyNick Yeah, I heard. Github was blocked because sharing code is evil. 11:17 markveidemanis if on_punchnode returns puncher, whats on_dognode 11:17 markveidemanis on_dignode* 11:17 markveidemanis Digger or smth? 11:17 markveidemanis JOrdach use a real client 11:17 markveidemanis lol 11:18 NotReallyNick What's wrong with his client? 11:18 Jordach markveidemanis, i change host and that's it, not join as webchat then use the cloak and revert 11:25 markveidemanis I have an idea for a mod 11:26 markveidemanis A command: /server that sends a message as the server to everyone 11:26 rubenwardy markveidemanis: easy peasy 11:35 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/7368954 11:36 rubenwardy markveidemanis 11:36 markveidemanis yop 11:38 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/7yM4MDwq i belive 11:38 rubenwardy no 11:39 markveidemanis on_drop? 11:39 rubenwardy on_dig i think actually 11:39 rubenwardy http://dev.minetest.net/register_node#on_drop 11:39 markveidemanis same but on_dig? 11:40 rubenwardy try it 11:40 rubenwardy It might not be dug 11:41 rubenwardy you might have to do http://pastebin.com/yU0Fyzxc 11:42 rubenwardy or http://pastebin.com/n6nnFXsT rather 11:42 rubenwardy ask pilzadam 11:42 PilzAdam busy. 3D sheeps 11:43 rubenwardy cancel that 11:43 markveidemanis minetest.register_"" 11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, IKR 11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, theyre awesome, arent they? 11:44 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/JfYsfPnh 11:44 rubenwardy see http://dev.minetest.net/register_node#Node_definition 11:48 NotReallyNick Hmm. I'm not a fan of the sheep. I don't suppose we could rename wool cotton, and farm it instead. No? I thought not, but it was worth suggesting. 12:21 markveidemanis ▄▄ 12:21 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82440#p82440 12:23 celeron55 both need an addition to the engine (adding such is fine though) 12:26 Taoki Anyone know why on_receive_fields isn't working? I set up a formspec on that node, but when clicking a button this doesn't do anything 12:27 Taoki busy. 3D sheeps 12:27 Taoki PilzAdam: Saw your 3D sheep on the forum. Looks very good! But the mouse isn't made out of blocks... I suggest remaking that model into a blocky version to not break the default style 12:28 markveidemanis markmt.strangled.net:30000 is up if anyone wants to play 12:29 Taoki Not now for me. Busy on making a mod which I think a lot of people will enjoy when ready 12:30 markveidemanis What mod??? 12:30 markveidemanis GIve at least a hint... 12:31 Taoki It wil allow importing and exporting houses or any structure you build in-world easily 12:32 markveidemanis Meh 12:32 markveidemanis I have worldedit 12:33 markveidemanis And multinode 12:33 markveidemanis And i need someone to help me with spawn on my server 12:34 Taoki I'm trying to figure out why on_receive_fields doesn't execute when clicking buttons in my formspec 12:38 Kacey stupid XChat 12:39 markveidemanis Hello Kacey 12:39 markveidemanis I am making a map of my server 12:39 markveidemanis with minetestmapper 12:40 markveidemanis There should be an automatic server that does it, like i upload map and it sends me the png 12:40 markveidemanis how do i do the fancy isometric map? 12:41 Kacey well i cant use XChat anymore... 12:42 Kacey brb 12:44 markveidemanis Hi 12:45 Kacey IceChat now 12:46 markveidemanis Hi kacey 12:46 markveidemanis I will upload my server map... 12:48 Kacey uugh 12:48 * Kacey wishes that XChat was completely free 12:51 Jordach Kacey, i thought you were talking about IceCraft|Away 12:52 Jordach Kacey, hexchat 12:54 markveidemanis http://speedy.sh/5Zu98/map.png 12:58 Jordach hey RealBadAngel 13:07 Jordach Leoneof, hey 13:07 * Jordach is working on a smooth pack 13:08 Jordach (minetest doesnt have that many too choose from...) 13:09 Leoneof hi Jordach , do i know you? :) 13:09 Jordach Leoneof, in one of the most active forum members 13:10 Leoneof i haven't registered in minetest forums, maybe you know another Leonx 13:10 Jordach Leoneof, nope. 13:10 Jordach I remember you from the other times you've dropped by 13:11 Leoneof Jordach: Ubuntu forums? 13:11 Jordach Leoneof, no 13:11 Jordach Minetest* 13:11 Leoneof i'm scared, this could be just dream, wake up O_O 13:12 Jordach Leoneof, nope 13:12 Leoneof any link? 13:12 Jordach forum.minetest.net 13:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam I will try to fix minitest 13:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Could you send me a pm of the problems and maybe fixes you know 13:13 Jordach minitest by jojoa is looking like moontest 13:13 Jordach PilzAdam, ^ 13:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Moon test? 13:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Why 13:14 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, read the logs what I said the last time 13:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok 13:14 PilzAdam and this is just 1 min. testing 13:15 PilzAdam you need to test stuff yourself 13:15 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach why am I like moontest? 13:15 Leoneof Jordach: check again, it's not me 13:15 jojoa1997|Tablet I do but I can't have minetest on my PC atm 13:15 Jordach minetest.register_alias("full of hot air", "Moontest") 13:16 jojoa1997|Tablet Well that Ida's boy minitest 13:16 jojoa1997|Tablet Gt class almost over 13:18 Leoneof Jordach: O_O 13:19 PilzAdam basically everything done by Likwid is "Moontest" 13:19 Jordach jojoa makes results, but not often enough 13:22 * Leoneof puts Jordach on *ignore list* 13:22 Jordach heh 13:23 markveidemanis Who wants to play chess 13:24 Jordach nope. 13:25 Jordach i'd rather pit my bot against someone 13:27 rubenwardy I am never sure whether Likwid is taking the piss, or is genuine 13:27 RealBadAngel hi all 13:28 RealBadAngel Jordach, sup? 13:28 Jordach sup RBA 13:28 * Jordach agrees with rubenwardy 13:28 RealBadAngel hehe, just back from work 13:28 markveidemanis hmmmm wanna play chess? 13:28 RealBadAngel hi hmmmm 13:28 RealBadAngel seems we do have similar timing ;) i also came in 13:29 Jordach minetest.register_alias("hmmmm", "Ryan") 13:31 hmmmm hrmmmm 13:31 RealBadAngel close, should be rather minetest.register_alias("default:hmmmm", "Kwolek:Ryan") 13:31 Jordach minetest.register_alias("hmmmm", "RealBadAngel") 13:31 Jordach :P 13:32 Jordach there should be a block for every developer 13:32 PilzAdam *node? 13:32 Jordach PilzAdam, yeah 13:32 PilzAdam c55's disappears randomly for some weeks :-) 13:33 Jordach make em rare like nyan cats 13:33 Jordach the c55 block can become mese blocks 13:34 RealBadAngel meh, rather CPU node 13:34 celeron55 there's already a texture for that block; my personal site's favicon 8) 13:34 * Leoneof puts hmmmm on *ignore list* 13:35 Jordach Leoneof, hmmmm is a developer 13:35 RealBadAngel anybody else tried system wide luajit patch? 13:36 Leoneof Jordach: you are on ignore list, i can't read your chat :) 13:37 Leoneof i didn't know hmmmm is a developer ;D 13:37 * Jordach winces at the amount of tools in minetest_game 13:38 Leoneof btw, is it possible to play minetest with two pc (intranet only) ? linux and windows 13:39 sfan5 Leoneof: yes 13:39 Jordach Leoneof, minetest is multi platform 13:39 Leoneof great, it will be nice to find minetest for android, to build great city :) 13:40 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach o am also balancing achool 13:40 Jordach Leoneof, minetest wont run on android just yet 13:40 Leoneof ;[ 13:40 Jordach because the irrlicht examples wont compile as of yet 13:40 Jordach sfan5 is trying 13:40 Leoneof it's okay, two pc is fine 13:41 jojoa1997|Tablet 2 PC? 13:41 sfan5 Jordach: they compile but don't work 13:41 jojoa1997|Tablet Is that a type of computer 13:41 Jordach sfan5, well, im wrong them :) 13:41 Leoneof jojoa1997|Tablet: multiplayer 13:41 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok 13:41 Leoneof mojo jojo :) 13:41 sfan5 !c 3^2 13:41 sfan5 ... 13:42 Jordach minetestbot isnt here 13:42 Jordach ^ sfan5 13:42 jojoa1997|Tablet Sfan5 take your time with android 13:42 Jordach !c 3^2 13:42 MinetestBot 9 13:42 sfan5 !c 2^3 13:42 MinetestBot 8 13:42 sfan5 perfect! 13:42 Leoneof !c 2+5 13:42 MinetestBot 7 13:42 PilzAdam !c 1+1 13:42 MinetestBot 2 13:42 PilzAdam wrong! its 10 13:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 3*4^8 13:43 MinetestBot 196 608 13:43 Jordach PilzAdam, +1 for binary 13:43 Leoneof how come 13:43 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 13:43 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.292ms) 13:43 Leoneof !help 13:43 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 13:43 Jordach Leoneof, MinetestBot does other thinks too 13:43 jojoa1997|Tablet I'm gonna try Ubuntu later 13:43 rubenwardy !c 1/0 13:43 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 13:44 rubenwardy !c ans 13:44 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 13:44 JesseH jojoa1997|Tablet, When you do, contact me I can help you out. 13:44 jojoa1997|Tablet K 13:44 rubenwardy !c sin(-10) 13:44 MinetestBot 0.544021111 13:44 JesseH Been using ubuntu for a long while :P 13:44 rubenwardy !c -5^-1 13:44 MinetestBot -0.2 13:44 rubenwardy !c -5^-2 13:44 MinetestBot -0.04 13:44 rubenwardy what is square route? 13:44 Leoneof !c a+b 13:44 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 13:45 markveidemanis !c ((3^10)*10)*(10*8^8) 13:45 jojoa1997|Tablet I have decompressed the files in the download I got and will boot from USB 13:45 Jordach sfan5, https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/pull/1 13:45 rubenwardy !c ((3^10)*10)*(10*8^8) 13:45 MinetestBot 9.90677828 × 10^(13) 13:45 JesseH jojoa1997|Tablet, You already have it on a usb? 13:45 markveidemanis 9.9067783e+13 13:45 markveidemanis close enough 13:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah but I am at school 13:46 sfan5 Jordach: done 13:46 jojoa1997|Tablet I just decompress it right 13:46 Jordach sfan5, :P 13:46 * sfan5 just tried to tab-complete done 13:46 JesseH jojoa1997|Tablet, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ 13:46 sfan5 *"done" 13:46 jojoa1997|Tablet And put the files o usb 13:46 JesseH That worked out fine last time. 13:46 * Jordach prefers installing over Windows 13:46 JesseH Well it also worked with wine 13:46 JesseH Jordach, That software is windows only me thinks 13:47 Jordach JesseH, if anyone says Android is a OSS Linux Distro, I slap 13:47 Jordach them* 13:47 JesseH xD 13:47 JesseH Good ole java 13:47 JesseH :/ 13:48 Jordach OSS Android is non Google components, eg, GPlay, GMAIL, etc 13:48 Jordach which are not there. 13:48 JesseH Well, What did you expect? lol 13:48 Jordach Google Android is like the above, but with non-free components 13:48 Jordach Cyranogen Mod is a good starting place 13:48 * rubenwardy is wondering what to work on 13:48 JesseH rubenwardy, A minetest mod? 13:49 JesseH :D 13:49 JesseH I am going to start on a mod later today me thinkz 13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Would this work with USB http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop 13:49 JesseH You download your .iso, then use something to put it on the USB basically 13:49 JesseH Make sure your USB is big enough. 13:50 rubenwardy qwerty 13:50 Jordach JesseH, nope. 13:50 Jordach there's a tool by OpenSUSE to covert .iso's into Bootable USB Sticks 13:51 rubenwardy potato! 13:51 JesseH tomato 13:51 JesseH tuh mah to 13:51 Jordach rubenwardy, at the end of this test, there will be cake. 13:52 JesseH yumm 13:52 JesseH Do I get any? :D 13:52 Jordach finish test 19 first 13:52 JesseH :/ 13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet 14gb is god enough? 13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet It isn't :-\ 13:52 JesseH jojoa1997|Tablet, its plenty lol 13:52 sfan5 14gb 13:52 sfan5 ? 13:53 jojoa1997|Tablet What do I need? 13:53 JesseH :/ 13:53 * Jordach uses a 16gb flash pen just for the Xbox360 13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet Would 4 GB work? 13:55 JesseH yes 13:55 jojoa1997|Tablet OK good 13:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Could I have other files on it? 13:55 JesseH sure 13:55 JesseH :P 13:55 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, yes 13:56 Jordach provided they dont interfere with ubuntu 13:56 * Jordach is turning into a help desk 13:56 JesseH Do you have a bell? 13:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Bell? 13:56 Jordach type "Jordach, PING!" and I'll be there 13:56 Jordach usually. 13:57 JesseH One of those bells you press to get their attention 13:57 JesseH lol 13:57 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 13:57 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 seems to be down 13:57 Jordach bullshit. 13:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Gt cya 13:57 * Jordach is connecting to it 13:57 * Jordach is connecting to it 13:57 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 13:57 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.178ms) 13:59 JesseH why do we never get an answer 13:59 JesseH when were knocking at the door 14:03 JesseH When you were young, and your heart was an open book 14:04 JesseH you used to say live or let live 14:04 JesseH you know you did you know you did 14:04 JesseH ♪ ♪v 14:04 JesseH lol 14:10 Jordach uh oh, i over did the PulseAudio volume for Clementine... 14:10 Jordach 400% \o/ 14:14 * Jordach finished wool 14:16 Jordach hmmmm, i just found this strange world: http://i.imgur.com/jI0sWh6.png 14:17 Jordach noise based mountain on left, current V6 cliffs on right 14:17 Jordach from 0.4-stable branch 14:17 PilzAdam that looks like v6 14:18 Jordach that's my problem: the noise on left looks like V7, but the cliffs state otherwise 14:18 PilzAdam everything there looks like v6... 14:19 VanessaE mornin' all 14:20 Jordach hey VanessaE 14:20 Jordach you should make a texture pack :P 14:20 Jordach that's not HDX 14:21 VanessaE http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/no-rage-face-1.jpg 14:21 VanessaE NO. 14:21 VanessaE :) 14:21 Jordach VanessaE, you drew the apple and mese texture, go do it 14:22 PilzAdam ... both are horrible 14:22 * PilzAdam hides 14:22 VanessaE ^^^ that is why 14:22 Jordach bullshit. 14:23 VanessaE no one likes my textures anyway so fuck it :) 14:25 Jordach VanessaE, I've had some plans for a SVG Pack for a while 14:25 Jordach (which of course they've been scaled down..) 14:33 Leoneof alex256 is here? :) 14:36 rubenwardy added http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/addreview.php 14:39 rubenwardy to create these: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/review.php?id=3 14:53 markveidemanis I need some help with mesecons 14:58 rubenwardy ... 14:58 VanessaE bbl 15:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Sôooooœooooooooooooooooppo bored 15:04 jojoa1997|Tablet SS 15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet ß 15:05 rubenwardy potato! 15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Patato 15:06 jojoa1997|Tablet So so so tired 15:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Need need need lunch 15:06 * jojoa1997|Tablet is a broken record record record player 15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Some one needs to make another hammer 15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Game 15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Who plays realtest 15:08 rubenwardy spam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82477#p82477 15:13 jojoa1997|Tablet !up forum.minetest.net 15:13 MinetestBot forum.minetest.net:30000 is up (0.342ms) 15:13 Leoneof !up 15:13 MinetestBot Leoneof: Give me a Server Address 15:13 Leoneof !up www.google.com 15:13 MinetestBot www.google.com:30000 seems to be down 15:14 Leoneof !up www.google.com:80 15:14 MinetestBot Leoneof: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 15:14 Leoneof !up www.google.com 80 15:14 MinetestBot www.google.com:80 seems to be down 15:14 Leoneof good, google is down 15:15 Jordach !ping google.com 15:19 rubenwardy !ping Jordach 15:19 Jordach yes 15:20 rubenwardy A whole second! 15:23 Jordach rubenwardy, it should be low 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet we should un OP ChanServ 15:29 hylian how do i get a different biome? everytime i start, i get the same jungle with deep pits to a super deep ocean biome. I saw pics for desert and plains and stuff, is that available in c55? 15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 15:30 hylian so how do i access that option? starting screen of minetest does not give me the optiion. 15:30 jojoa1997_Tablet just keep searching 15:31 hylian so what you are saying is that all the biomes are on the same map? 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet first time i landed i found a giant desert and didnt know there were other things 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet have you changed minetest.conf 15:32 hylian no i have not 15:32 jojoa1997|Tablet ok what version do you have 15:33 jojoa1997|Tablet and the three biomes in minetest are forest, plain, and oceon 15:33 hylian i have c55 15:34 hylian are there any towns with friendlies like mc? 15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet first it is minetest 15:34 hylian i know. 15:34 jojoa1997|Tablet second what version is it? 15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet 0.4.6? 15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet 0.4.5? 15:35 rubenwardy 0.3.1? 15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet pre-release? 15:35 hylian ohh, i don't know. I am running ubuntu 12.04 lts, and I just installed what was available via apt-get. 15:35 rubenwardy It will say in the top left of the screen 15:35 rubenwardy when you run it 15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet like "Minetest-0.x.x" 15:36 hylian it says 0.3.1 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet oh 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet well heres current biomes 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Biomes 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet and deserts were not add until 0.4 15:37 hylian should i get a newer version of mt? 15:37 rubenwardy yes, definitely 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet YES 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet we are at 0.4.6 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet http://minetest.net/download.php 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet there there are official downloads and 15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet we have deserts, diamonds, bronze, gold, copper, and obsidian 15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet though unlike minecraft we have obsidian glass 15:40 hylian thanks for the help! 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet your welcome 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet better yet 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet with 0.4.x you can have mods 15:42 celeron55 you need one from here, but nobody can tell which one without the specifics of your system: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 15:43 celeron55 this if 32-bit, https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+files/minetestc55_0.4.6-0ppa1%7Eprecise1_i386.deb or this if 64bit: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+files/minetestc55_0.4.6-0ppa1%7Eprecise1_amd64.deb 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet why do linux users need packages 15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet celeron55 what os do you use? 15:44 celeron55 or you could add the PPA to your package manager and do it that way, google about that 15:44 celeron55 (i don't even know how that exactly works) 15:44 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: he uses debian and arch 15:44 Calinou and windows xp in a vm :p 15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean you 15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet oh ok 15:45 jojoa1997|Tablet every other os should processstuff like windows when it comes to packages 15:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i just download and place and i dont have to worry about not having multiple copies 15:45 Calinou you can do that 15:46 celeron55 you can make such packages on linux too, but it isn't really recommended and isn't the default, and isn't that easy 15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet if i install ubuntu on a live usb 15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet run it 15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet do i have to have a different version of minetest 15:47 jojoa1997|Tablet also i plan on using wine 15:47 Calinou just make a package with the source and bundle a binary, celeron55? 15:47 Calinou sauerbraten and red eclipse both do that 15:47 Calinou you extract the .tar.bz2, install SDL and run the start script 15:47 Calinou (the most complicated part is well, install SDL, and it is poorly documented) 15:47 celeron55 Calinou: you need to build the binary against an old enough glibc and other libraries 15:48 * Jordach thinks jojoa should not interfere with linux 15:48 celeron55 it will only work on as old system as you build it on, not older 15:48 * Menche thinks actual packages are more convenient 15:48 Jordach yeah, apt-get install makes life SO MUCH EASIER 15:48 celeron55 Menche: they really aren't, because you need a ton of them 15:48 celeron55 Menche: check that launchpad page i linked to 15:48 celeron55 it has 6 packages for 0.4.6 15:48 celeron55 all are needed 15:49 Calinou blame debian packages team 15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet i am only using ubuntu to bypass some things 15:49 Calinou soon the creative mode will be a separate package 15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet ? 15:49 hylian man, the difference is night and day. thanks again. 15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet what a new mod? 15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet also 15:49 jojoa1997|Tablet there are 3d players faster gen 15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet wanna know all the new stuff? 15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet here http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Version_History 15:50 jojoa1997|Tablet gtg cya 15:56 rubenwardy1 ffs 15:57 Calinou http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 15:57 Calinou :| he left 15:57 khonkhortisan cool, I got in the changelog 16:04 Leoneof where's alex256 ? :) 16:08 Leoneof oh hello alex256 ! 16:09 Leoneof did you find a tree? lol 16:09 alex256 i thought of something useful....editable arrow signs that the player can mark his way out of a mine with. 16:09 alex256 yes 16:09 alex256 and hi 16:10 Leoneof <--Testing99 :) 16:10 alex256 ahhhh... 16:12 alex256 the sign says "this way out "and gives the player the option of which way the arrow points. 16:13 alex256 simple but would be usefull 16:14 Leoneof brb 16:19 alex256 i guess no one thought my idea was good..... 16:20 Menche arrow signs? i like it 16:20 khonkhortisan But you can do almost that with regular signs 16:20 Menche by writing "-->" to it? 16:20 alex256 yea i guess you are right ...nm 16:21 Menche signs don't show the text unless you look at them; arrow-shaped signs would be easier 16:21 TTChangeTheWorld alex256: Good idea! 16:21 TTChangeTheWorld Do it on Lua ^^ 16:21 alex256 thanks 16:22 TTChangeTheWorld Can you do it yourself on lua? 16:22 alex256 i have no coding experience.....just ideas... 16:23 TTChangeTheWorld Hm... 16:23 Menche just copy the default sign code and change the texture and name 16:23 TTChangeTheWorld Menche: Hm... no 16:23 Menche ? 16:23 TTChangeTheWorld Player must chose where will the arrow look... 16:23 alex256 the arrow pointing script would be the one that would frustrate me ... 16:24 Menche make the sign rotate on punch? 16:24 TTChangeTheWorld Hm 16:24 TTChangeTheWorld to 6 directions? 16:25 Menche 6? 4. 16:25 alex256 or talk aboutit enough so someone steals my idea : P 16:25 alex256 no just up,down ,left and right 16:26 TTChangeTheWorld alex256: But into deep and to the camera??) 16:26 TTChangeTheWorld Sorry... I just don't know how to say it in english 16:26 TTChangeTheWorld Like the faces of cube... 16:26 alex256 tyea 16:27 alex256 yea ...sorry for the t...its a habit.. 16:27 TTChangeTheWorld alex256: What it tyea? 16:29 TTChangeTheWorld TyeA, a third protein involved in the control of Yop release??)) 16:29 TTChangeTheWorld I have founded it in google( 16:29 TTChangeTheWorld Guyyys... 16:29 TTChangeTheWorld What is tyea 16:29 TTChangeTheWorld ??? 16:30 alex256 a typo...it was supposed to be yea but because of gaming habits i pressed t first....lol 16:32 TTChangeTheWorld )) 16:32 TTChangeTheWorld ty 16:32 TTChangeTheWorld I am just wanna sleep... 16:32 TTChangeTheWorld I understand nothing now) 16:33 alex256 lol 16:38 Menche my server says it's "announcing to servers.minetest.net", but it doesn't show up 16:38 ShadowNinja Menche: make sure the serverlist can ping you 16:39 Menche pretty sure it can 16:40 ShadowNinja is the address set correctly? 16:41 Menche yes, it's all set the same 16:41 ShadowNinja !up menche.servegame.com 16:41 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.368ms) 16:42 ShadowNinja 21 clients on zeg9's server? 16:44 ShadowNinja Menche: what does your conf look like 16:44 alex256 ....server_announce 1....is set in the minetest.confright? 16:44 Menche yes 16:44 Menche the config is exactly the same as when it was working earlier 16:44 alex256 hmmm....? 16:46 alex256 you may have 2 minetest.conf files conflicting with each other...had that prob the other day.....o 16:46 Menche i only have 1 16:46 alex256 ok 16:46 Menche it's a systemwide install 16:47 alex256 linux? 16:47 paxcoder VanessaE? 16:48 alex256 i had a minetest.conf hiding in /user/share/minetest/games 16:49 * sfan5 has made a working (not complete) brainfuck cpu in logisim 16:49 rubenwardy minetest.conf is the setttings for that particular game, if it is in /user/share/minetest/games/ 16:50 alex256 right i forgot the /minetest folder in games ..thanks for correcting me 16:50 Menche only have 1 config file 16:51 celeron55 if a game minetest.conf and the user's minetest.conf both have a setting, the user's one will always be used 16:51 Menche and i can verify the settings using /set in-game 16:51 Menche on startup it said that it was announcing to servers.minetest.net 16:52 alex256 the version i had the other day was mising the commons folder and when i edited my minetest.conf for singleplayer it overwrot the one in the share folder....wierd its only happened once 16:53 alex256 i manually installed my minetest....so wierd stuff happens to me alot 16:57 alex256 run the server from a terminal and see if it says announcing to servers.minetest.net 16:57 Menche it does 16:57 alex256 that is wierd.... 16:59 celeron55 is the server actually accessible from the internet? 16:59 celeron55 servers.minetest.net won't list it if it isn't 16:59 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000 16:59 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.503ms) 17:00 markveidemanis I need help with digilines on 86.133.49.153 17:00 Menche it is 17:00 alex256 i can join it but it does't show up in the public.... 17:01 alex256 that is wierd.....dont know how you could fix that issue? 17:01 Menche can verify with /set that the settings are right 17:02 alex256 have you tried to restart your server to see if that works? 17:02 Menche 3 times 17:02 alex256 crap 17:03 celeron55 Menche: do you have server_address set correctly in minetest.conf? 17:03 Pest sup, guys. How can i install Mobs mod on ubuntu server? 17:03 alex256 it should be blank right 17:03 Menche server_address = menche.servegame.com 17:03 Pest following wiki instructions doesnt work 17:03 celeron55 i think it should work if server_address is correct and server_announce is set to 1... dunno then 17:04 Menche Pest: is minetest installed system-wide? and what game are you using? 17:04 alex256 try making it blank...see what that does? 17:04 celeron55 alex256: of course it won't work; then the master server obviously cannot connect to it 17:05 Menche server_announce = 1, serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net 17:05 sokomine pest: and which version of mobs do you want to install? there are several mods that add mobs 17:06 celeron55 Pest: there are roughly 3 wikis, you may want to link the specific page 17:06 celeron55 Pest: and please tell how does it not work, there are million ways for that to happen 17:06 alex256 yes but doesn't it re_write the server address when you restart...i always just leave mine blank. 17:07 * Menche had problems with the server overwriting it all the time 17:07 Pest so... let me see how to explain. I just unpacked deb in Windows and via FTP put it on server 17:07 Menche so i made the minetest.conf readonly 17:07 Pest then i just start minetestserver 17:07 sokomine celeron: there's a strange fps drop on menches server. if i stay in/close to my house there (admittedly using a lot of stairplus-nodeboxes but overall beeing a rather small house), fps drop drasticly from 15-20 (15 would be expected value with many nodeboxes around) to 0-3. walking away from that location for a few seconds helps recover the framerate 17:08 sokomine pest: are you completely new to the game or are you a bit familiar with it? 17:08 alex256 deb is not for windows..its for debian 17:09 Pest i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive 17:09 Menche Pest: you unpacked the deb on windows? you should FTP the deb to the server and install with dpkg -i 17:09 Pest well, i never use easiest way=) 17:09 Menche i know, but were all the files installed correctly? debs are supposed to be installed with dpkg -i [deb file] 17:10 Pest in user/Minetest just 2 folders: bin and share 17:11 Pest i think, thats not all 17:11 Pest but server works... somehow 17:11 Menche and what game mode were you running 17:11 Pest minetest 17:11 Menche you put the mod in ~/.minetest/mods/minetest ? 17:11 Pest yep 17:12 Pest wait 17:12 Pest no, not in root 17:12 Pest user spavce 17:12 Pest space* 17:12 alex256 ..... 17:12 Menche "~" means your home directory 17:12 Pest sry 17:12 Menche so, /home/[your name]/.minetest/mods/minetest 17:12 Pest exactly 17:13 Menche what is in /usr/share/minetest/games ? 17:14 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 17:15 Pest common, minetest_game, minimal 17:15 Jordach NotReallyNick, morning, afternoon 17:15 markveidemanis are there any more mods like digilines 17:16 Menche Pest: what version are you using? how did you start the serve? 17:16 Menche *server 17:16 alex256 why didn't he just get the windows version if he has windows? 17:17 Pest 0.4.6. Most dumbest way-- /mc/minetestserver--->Enter 17:17 rubenwardy (6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive 17:17 Pest because of curiosity 17:17 rubenwardy woops 17:18 Menche does the server run? 17:18 Pest yeah 17:18 Menche does it show the big ascii-art "Minetest"? 17:19 alex256 if you started it from a console it would be /minetestserver --worldname 17:19 Jordach ./minetestserver * 17:19 * Jordach is a picky cunt5 17:19 Jordach -5 17:20 alex256 or in my case # minetestserver --worldname 17:20 Pest yes, and i able to connect it 17:20 Menche try adding "--gameid minetest" 17:21 Pest tnx for wasting time helping me =) 17:22 Menche another thing to help test, add print("mobs started") to the beginning of the mod's init.lua 17:22 Menche then "mobs started" should be printed when the server is started 17:22 Menche (to the console) 17:22 alex256 is there a game.conf in the usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/ 17:23 alex256 i had a deb version that didn't have one thats why i was asking 17:24 Menche also, run the in-game command "/mods" and see if that mod is listed 17:25 rubenwardy (6:20:26 PM) Menche: try adding "--gameid minetest" 17:25 rubenwardy Pest: he was being serious 17:25 rubenwardy (6:21:08 PM) Pest: tnx for wasting time helping me =) 17:25 Pest hm 17:25 rubenwardy game id is the game to use in the root/minetest/game/game name 17:25 Pest i meaned: thanks that you spend a time and help me 17:25 rubenwardy oot/minetest/game/minetest_game is "minetest" 17:25 rubenwardy oh ok 17:25 Pest =) 17:27 Pest [21:17:11] (6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive 17:27 Pest [21:17:43] woops 17:28 Pest dunno, if i got you correct. But PeaZip opens deb files as well 17:28 rubenwardy (6:08:25 PM) sokomine: pest: are you completely new to the game or are you a bit familiar with it? 17:28 Pest new 17:28 rubenwardy I got mixed up with my log history scroll 17:28 alex256 i like that someone added the survival_game 17:28 rubenwardy I thought that was after (6:09:04 PM) Pest: i'm absolutely new. and Deb is just an archive 17:29 Pest now i completelly messed up=) 17:29 Pest nwm 17:32 alex256 i didn't know linux executable files were compatable with windows......guess i should learn more about windows 17:33 Jordach alex256, NOPE 17:34 Jordach cygwin or GTFO 17:34 alex256 i would recommend him getting the windows minetest.zip from http://minetest.net/download.php 17:34 alex256 probably would be less frustrating for him.... 17:35 Jordach alex256, you have 10 seconds to answer this question: 1+1=10, (other IRC users, please dont say anything and NO GOOGLING.) 17:36 Exio pls 17:36 alex256 i give up i thought it was 2 17:36 Exio binary 17:36 * Jordach dislikes people WHO THINK THEY KNOW BASIC Computer Science 17:37 Jordach bbiab 17:37 alex256 ahh 0 is off and 1 is on the only 2 nombers that matter... 17:37 alex256 numbers 17:37 * Jordach claps sarcastically 17:38 alex256 i dont know anything i dont know how to code...troubleshooting is the only thing i am decent at 17:40 alex256 i haven't done any programing since the commodore vic 20...lol...and yes i am serious 17:42 PilzAdam Jordach, Moontest map makes progress: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81087#p81087 17:43 PilzAdam Im glad to be listed as a contributor 17:43 alex256 10 blah blah blah 20 blah blah 30 print blah blah 40 run....i dont miss it a bit 17:45 alex256 i spent 2 weeks writing a pong program and when i typed 1000000 run a ball bounced back and forth on the screen ....but i didn't have any paddles 17:45 alex256 thus my programming day were over lol 17:52 Calinou Jordach: only stock intel fans can clap sarcastically. 17:52 Calinou you aren't allowed to do so unless you have a CPU with SarClap technology 17:52 Jordach Calinou, intel cpu here 17:52 Calinou (found on i3 and i7s, but not i5s) 17:52 RealBadAngel there are 10 kinds of ppl, those who understand binary and those who dont :) 17:53 Jordach i see what you did there 17:53 Leoneof 10 print blah 20 goto 10 17:53 alex256 wel i have piece of crap self built comp with puppy linux so i guess what i say is pure meaningless rubbish... 17:53 Leoneof that's BASIC, eww 17:53 Calinou Leoneof Leoneof; new Leoneof 17:54 Leoneof dont! 17:54 alex256 yeah i know right...i hated basic 17:54 Jordach C you later 17:56 alex256 i dont claim to be some computer wiz....so i hope no one dislikes me .... 17:57 Leoneof you're still cutie 17:57 alex256 rotfl 18:00 Leoneof :) 18:01 RealBadAngel Jordach, C++ you later ;) 18:02 alex256 i just manhandled the newest ubuntu precise minetest release into puppy ... seems to be working....i am just going to roll with it. 18:04 alex256 things would be much easier if i knew exactly what i was doing 18:07 alex256 next i am going to try do it in tiny core see if that works...... 18:09 STHGOM cya 18:10 alex256 go hang a salami im a lasagna hog....spells the same thing backwards...now thats funny 18:13 alex256 that program is wierd 18:13 alex256 a generic fruity loops 18:14 alex256 i take it you are a musician John? 18:15 onpon4 Out of curiosity, with the libraries Minetest currently uses, is it possible for it to detect joysticks? 18:16 alex256 you would need a gamepad profiler of some kind. i think it might work... 18:17 alex256 you would have to map the keys ....shouldn't be that hard though 18:18 onpon4 alex256: So, if I wanted to add gamepad support, what would I want to use? 18:18 alex256 what os are you on 18:19 onpon4 Oh, I could map keys with joy2key easily enough, but I'm wondering about adding actual gamepad support to Minetest. 18:20 onpon4 Would something Minetest already uses be suitable for the job, or would another dependency need to be added? 18:20 alex256 err i have no idea then...i will keep quite 18:21 Exio no idea how irrlicht handes the stuff 18:21 Exio handles* 18:21 ShadowNinja alex256: could you please add fast to default privs on your server? 18:24 Hwkiller if only irrlicht spoke SDL 18:26 onpon4 Would it be possible to use SDL alongside Irrlicht, or do they conflict? 18:26 Hwkiller ? irrlicht would just need to use the SDL libs 18:27 Hwkiller apparently sdl2's input handling is sexy, but I don't know 18:27 Hwkiller I heard that from some devs on #steamlug 18:29 Hwkiller is there a way to map inventory to "mouse4" ? 18:37 Traxie21 Where is minetest.conf in 0.4.6? 18:37 PilzAdam same as every version since 0.2 18:38 Traxie21 I started my server, and there is no minetest.conf, and when I added one, nothing changes 18:38 Traxie21 I'm in a drastic hurry too. 18:38 PilzAdam you need to create it when the server isnt running 18:39 Menche ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 18:39 Traxie21 Menche, portable install 18:39 Menche oh, then just in the minetest folder 18:40 Traxie21 nvm, working now 18:41 Traxie21 Btw, I run ubuntu from a USB stick now :D 18:41 Traxie21 Still working out the kinks 18:42 Traxie21 barf 18:42 alex256 puppy is better jusy my oppinion... 18:42 alex256 from a usb that is 18:43 Leoneof why linux is scaring you, because you can't install on your hdd? 18:43 mauvebic and i thought the toilet was learning to talk - turns out the sewers backed up :( 18:43 Traxie21 Leoneof, My computer is owned by someone else, my boss to be exact, and he dosn't want me messing with it 18:43 Traxie21 I hvae a 32GB USB now, and it seems to wrk fine 18:44 alex256 i have ubuntu,mint ,puppy,tango studio,and fedora..on my 3 hdds 18:44 PilzAdam and you use windows? 18:45 alex256 fruga on the puppy work better than the other os's 18:45 alex256 frugal 18:45 alex256 i do not use windows any more 18:45 Traxie21 I don't use windows... anymore XD 18:45 Traxie21 since the last 10 minutes 18:46 alex256 seriously try the new puppy distro on a usb..it is way faster than ubuntu 18:47 alex256 takes a minute to get used to but its worth it 18:47 Calinou oh hai Traxie21 :P 18:47 Calinou and bye (dinner) 18:47 Traxie21 Yeah, but I want ubuntu for full-fledged things, eg java, minetest, pie, pie, youtube, pie. 18:47 Traxie21 bai 18:47 Calinou btw, you should put some maptools:nobuild around your spawn to keep people from placing lava 18:47 Calinou on sunrisetest 18:47 Calinou :> 18:47 alex256 i have java and all the other stuff on my puppy 18:48 Traxie21 I know cal XD 18:48 Menche still not on the server list... 18:48 alex256 i can even play shhh....minecraft on it...if i want to'''' 18:48 Leoneof i don't use Windowz 18:48 Traxie21 Whats not on serverlist? 18:48 Menche my server 18:48 Traxie21 alex, I'll consider puppy, but I don't wnat to install something else today, i gtg soon 18:49 Menche it says it is announcing but doesn't show up 18:49 Traxie21 @Menche, did you compile with c 18:49 Traxie21 URL? 18:49 alex256 its only 200 mbs 18:49 Menche yes. 18:49 Traxie21 ok, your ping may be kinda slow 18:49 Menche it was working yesterday, with the same config 18:49 Traxie21 My server is still on the serverlist, and its down :P 18:53 Menche oh, think i see the problem 18:53 Menche yay it's on 18:54 Traxie21 Woot 18:54 Traxie21 Have to go in 1 min, copying files for 4 mins :C 18:54 alex256 what was the culprit? 18:57 alex256 later everyone 18:57 Traxie21 Hurrrrrryyyy up..... 18:57 Traxie21 bai 19:16 mauvebic this picture: http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/518728887-11.jpg?w=940 19:16 mauvebic lol 19:19 jojoa1997|Tablet who runs ubuntu from a live uwsb 19:19 jojoa1997|Tablet usb 19:22 JesseH ive figured it out 19:22 JesseH we need planes in Minetest 19:22 JesseH :D 19:23 jojoa1997|Tablet jesseh 19:23 jojoa1997|Tablet i am trying to boot ubuntu from usb 19:23 JesseH hi 19:23 JesseH okay 19:24 jojoa1997|Tablet can you help 19:24 JesseH doesn't seem like I can 19:24 jojoa1997|Tablet you said ask earlier 19:24 jojoa1997|Tablet oh ok 19:24 jojoa1997|Tablet or i think it was you 19:24 JesseH Yep it was 19:25 JesseH What is the issue? 19:25 jojoa1997|Tablet it wont boot 19:25 JesseH You're going to have to be more specific 19:25 JesseH also a lot of pros are in #ubuntu 19:25 JesseH just don't swear, or youll be banned xD 19:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i have it boot the 19:26 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm 19:26 JesseH xD 19:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont really need it and it will just get me in trouble from my mom 19:26 JesseH sorry I couldnt be of more assistance 19:26 JesseH meh 19:26 JesseH If she don't like linux, she isn't helping you at all 19:26 JesseH xD 19:26 jojoa1997|Tablet no it is complicated 19:27 JesseH Oh :( 19:32 JesseH someone needs to host a little server for me to play on xD 19:36 Calinou hi :p 19:37 Calinou happy birthday minetest 0.4_20120408 19:37 Calinou (and c-fifty-five's server by the way) 19:40 JesseH \o/ 19:42 PilzAdam w00t 19:42 PilzAdam 2 fucking thousand! 19:42 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82554#p82554 19:42 * Calinou watches the new red eclipse trailer 19:42 Calinou PilzAdam, your last post was "lol" :P 19:46 Hwkiller finally found lava for the first time 19:46 Hwkiller awesome 19:46 Calinou /teleport 0,-500,0 19:47 Calinou hello tablet user: jojoa1997|Tablet 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Home finally hi 19:47 * Calinou starts a debate about the usefulness of 7" tablets 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet For or against? 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet :-) 19:47 Calinou against >:D 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Why 19:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Wait 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Let me tell you why good 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet For my side 19:48 * Calinou still has his ipad 1 lying around: 2.5 years and still works 19:48 Calinou browsing the minecraft wiki around with it == weird 19:48 Calinou and you do NOT want to edit articles 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Well it is good for me cause 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ..... 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet ..... 19:48 Calinou really, I've did that for months back in 2011 :P for the lols 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet I do and 19:48 jojoa1997|Tablet .... 19:48 Leoneof . 19:48 Calinou bloody hell 19:48 * Calinou leaves 19:49 jojoa1997|Tablet I can use this in school 19:49 Leoneof anyone have home in minetest? :) 19:49 jojoa1997|Tablet It is like a computer from home except 19:49 jojoa1997|Tablet I can't play minetest with it 19:49 Hwkiller http://i.imgur.com/eW5ek96.png beautiful 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet Also I have a Bluetooth keyboard so I can type fast 19:50 jojoa1997|Tablet Has anyone thought of having an in browser minetest for chrome 19:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Well..... 19:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Anyone? 19:53 Leoneof mojojojo 19:54 mojojojo Lol registered 19:55 Leoneof it was nice 19:58 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: yes 19:58 jojoa1997|Tablet What 19:58 jojoa1997|Tablet Is it compiled? 19:58 jojoa1997|Tablet =-O 19:59 sfan5 no 19:59 sfan5 [01:50:44] Has anyone thought of having an in browser minetest for chrome 19:59 sfan5 let me find the link again.. 19:59 Calinou Hwkiller, -1 for unity/netflix 19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet What link 19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet Someone made it 19:59 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/eW5ek96.png beautiful 19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet :-* 19:59 Calinou -10000 for farheinheit/12 hour system, too 20:00 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82389#p82389 20:00 sfan5 Y U NO READ YER OWN TOPICS? 20:00 jojoa1997|Tablet I did 20:01 mauvebic farheinheit, who the fuck still uses that? lol 20:01 jojoa1997|Tablet I do 20:01 jojoa1997|Tablet More accurate than celcius 20:01 mauvebic most of the world is on metric 20:01 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: chrome supported c++? wtf?! 20:01 mauvebic well, the bits that matter anyways 20:01 sfan5 *supports 20:02 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, kelvin are more accurate then 20:02 Calinou or just use NotchUnit temperature 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet That is what I use 20:02 Calinou 0.1 NotchUnit = 0 degrees 20:02 * Traxie21 dosn't mind XUbuntu as much as she thought she would. 20:02 * jojoa1997|Tablet kills Calinou 20:02 * Traxie21 still prefers Unity. 20:02 Calinou 0.151652 NotchUnits = 25.2 degrees 20:02 Calinou xubuntu? 20:02 Calinou HIGH FIVE! 20:02 jojoa1997|Tablet Ahh too many tabs 20:03 Traxie21 The only thing I don't really like is the lack of tabs in the file browser 20:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou I tried to get it working 20:03 Calinou unity is ok, game performance ahs improved a lot these days 20:03 Calinou Traxie21, a thunar update brought tabs recently, it might come in 13.04 20:03 Traxie21 Thunar is actually kinda pretty :3 20:03 Calinou but any non-composited WM beats unity in gaming perf 20:03 Calinou it is 8) 20:03 Calinou greybird without compositing is fugly :| 20:03 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82572#p82572 http://v.gd/OLhUDj 20:04 Traxie21 The dock at the bottom is annoying, just noticed it 20:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Scan when I said thought I meant made 20:04 Calinou Traxie21, go to "panel" preferences, select panel 2, remove 20:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Sfan4 20:04 Calinou ^ what I first do after installing xubuntu 20:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol OK can't type 20:04 mauvebic http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/04/08/193223/linux-fatware-distros-that-need-to-slim-down?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter 20:04 mauvebic lol fatware 20:05 Calinou slashdot, worse than phoronix since 2007® 20:05 mauvebic better than reddit 20:05 sfan5 reddit!! 20:05 Calinou which is worse than 4chan 20:05 Calinou but 4chan is always better than jojoa1997|Tablet 20:05 Calinou but he is worse than mauvebic... 20:05 jojoa1997|Tablet Why 20:05 mauvebic ive never seen such a fugly site since the yahoo homepage of 95 20:05 Calinou dammit; too much logic 20:05 * Calinou killed himself. 20:06 jojoa1997|Tablet O:-) 20:06 mauvebic lol and the article proceeds to cite ubuntu as an example to follow lol 20:06 sfan5 john has 5 apples; a squirrel dies; why did Calinou suicide? 20:07 Traxie21 I wish people could spell on the Forums 20:07 sfan5 ^ jojoa1997|Tablet 20:07 Calinou gabe newell steals the apples and the dead squirrel 20:07 Traxie21 Seriously, I cannot tell what the hell Likwid is saying, and his IQ seems all ove rthe place 20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Because he never bought a Bluetooth keyboard for his tablet 20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet So he wasted a year doing the impossible 20:07 Calinou Traxie21, +1, but it is impossible to correct the spelling of every post, sadly :) 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Yeah 20:08 mauvebic why likwid is around at all baffles me lol 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Also he posts me^5 20:08 Traxie21 I make spelling mistakes, but Likqid seems to think the the English language is like... slaughtering a cow 20:08 Calinou you just misspelled likwid :P 20:08 mauvebic What do you think of calling my ocean 'Sea 55' ? 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol 20:08 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol yes 20:08 Calinou mauvebic, rotfl 20:09 Traxie21 *Likwid 20:09 Calinou new signature get! 20:09 Traxie21 Fuck it 20:09 Traxie21 *liquid 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet !!!!!!! https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/612 !!!!!! 20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet I WANT THIS NOW 20:09 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: tell that the guys in ..-dev 20:09 Calinou get the branch, compile it, write a dummy mod that will use it, ???, profit 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet I did 20:10 sfan5 actually.. Calinou is right 20:10 Calinou sfan5, I asked /dev, people like tty18, ram15 or null replied to me 20:10 Calinou they all said weird things. 20:10 Traxie21 Jojoa, I so want that too, but everyone wants a finally system 20:10 Calinou but null said nothing! 20:10 Traxie21 *final system 20:10 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam I need you 20:10 PilzAdam busy 20:10 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: well... then you learned, that not everything you want happens 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet I want to sleep 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Fine 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet I want death 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Too bad I can't get what I want 20:11 mauvebic theres like, 2-3 pull requests for luajit, whats up with that? 20:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Muwhahahaha 20:12 sfan5 "/dev/fb0.... can i access facebook using that ? -a windows noob with linux" 20:12 JesseH Anyone started any other games with the minetest engine? 20:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Yes 20:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Minecraft 20:12 Traxie21 Minitest, Dwarves, etc. 20:12 * Menche has started on one but it's barely functional 20:13 * Calinou has an unfinished attempt of minecraft_like around 20:13 JesseH Shows meh 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Minecraft-Minitest 20:13 Calinou JesseH, meh, no 20:13 Calinou it's very outdated too 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Nope 20:13 jojoa1997|Tablet I updated it 20:14 Traxie21 That moment when you have to go, and the permissions system on your server breaks... 20:14 mauvebic speaking of outdated, i went over to linux game tome since its going down, and the minetest page was reallllly outdated lol 20:14 Calinou >linux gaming sites 20:14 Calinou >up to date 20:14 Traxie21 LOL 20:14 Traxie21 LOOOOL 20:14 Traxie21 >Error, unknown command 20:14 mauvebic i have no idea which one is tops lol linux game tome was the first show up in googles tho 20:14 jojoa1997|Tablet So... 20:14 Calinou why lol :P 20:15 JesseH Maybe I should just use the forums for this kind of info :((( 20:15 Menche debian package is still 0.3.1 :( 20:16 Menche even in "sid" 20:16 Calinou hey, this is debian 20:16 Calinou update me maybe 20:16 Traxie21 sudo apt-get install brain 20:16 Traxie21 >Error: unable to locate package brain in current software sources 20:17 Menche so i suppose there's zero chance of a more recent minetest in debian 7.0 20:17 Menche as it's frozen 20:17 Traxie21 Likwid@somecomputer-x60: sudo apt-get install spelling-basic 20:17 mauvebic this is gonna be an epic sea: been filling chunks for 3 days 20:17 Traxie21 Error: Unable to install package, incompatable system 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet La 20:17 Calinou Traxie21, likwid with a lenovo laptop? nope. 20:17 jojoa1997|Tablet Lalu 20:18 Calinou he'd probably have an acer laptop :P 20:18 Traxie21 I has lenovo 20:18 Traxie21 and I hate it 20:18 Calinou Menche, yep, that's debian 20:18 Calinou weird 20:18 Calinou most lenovo users are die-hard lenovo fanboys, see reddit :P 20:18 Menche he made a map and credited c55 for making minetest :P 20:18 jojoa1997|Tablet Who has seen Star wars 20:18 Calinou that made me rofl, Menche :P 20:18 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, not me 20:19 Menche "{Yes I know you didn't help  C55 but I love using you for alot of things :) }" 20:19 * Menche wonders if we've made fun of likwid enough here :P 20:19 mauvebic naw, lets make fun of his manhood and question his virility 20:19 mauvebic :P 20:20 mauvebic (just kidding) 20:20 mauvebic dont even know if its a guy 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet Wow 20:21 Menche hey, the FreeBSD port was updated... to 0.4.4 20:21 jojoa1997|Tablet Look at all of these channels http://irc.minetest.ru 20:21 Calinou Menche, woo-hoo! 20:21 * Calinou smokes some BSD to celebrate. 20:21 Menche better than the random 0.4.dev it used to be 20:21 Calinou ...I see devils everywhere 20:21 Menche and it has a separate port for minetest_game 20:21 Traxie21_ Meow 20:21 Traxie21_ O_o 20:21 Calinou woof 20:21 Traxie21_ kick the other me, I timed out 20:21 mauvebic i see dead people 20:22 ShadowNinja most of the minetest channels should be droped 20:22 mauvebic theres a cemetary right down the street 20:22 ShadowNinja only #minetest and #minetest-dev are realy used 20:22 Traxie21_ HOW DARE YO.. owiat 20:22 Calinou :) 20:22 mauvebic i hear the politics there are more intense :P 20:22 Traxie21|XUbuntu alrighty guys, im outta here 20:22 Calinou :p 20:22 ShadowNinja Traxie21|XUbuntu: is your account registered? 20:22 Traxie21|XUbuntu ? 20:22 Traxie21|XUbuntu no 20:22 Menche what's #minetest-delta for? i thought minetest-delta died 20:23 mauvebic its still in aur lol 20:23 Traxie21|XUbuntu I dont want to register every nickname I use 20:23 Calinou it's for nothing, but some people use it for mod development 20:23 sdzen its for potatoes 20:23 mauvebic what about all the other greek letters? :( 20:23 ShadowNinja If you register it you can use ghost/release to get rid of the other you 20:23 Menche isn't minetest delta the old dev branch? 20:23 mauvebic been repossesed? 20:23 Traxie21|XUbuntu How do you register names? 20:23 Menche where new features were tested first 20:23 ShadowNinja delta was merged into master and abandoned 20:23 Menche Traxie21|XUbuntu: /msg NickServ help 20:24 Menche to get info about that 20:24 ShadowNinja /msg nickserv help register 20:24 Calinou what ShadowNinja said :P 20:24 ShadowNinja make sure you are using your main nick when you do it 20:24 Menche so, why is there still #minetest-delta 20:24 ironzorg ShadowNinja: watch this ↓ 20:24 ironzorg / 20:24 mauvebic am i the only one who gets random PM's from MarkV? 20:24 sdzen yes 20:25 sdzen dang it sapier! appear! 20:25 ShadowNinja ironzorg: ? 20:25 Calinou Traxie21 lost her voice, heh 20:25 Menche lol, the only thing in the #minetest-delta logs for today is people joining 20:25 ironzorg ShadowNinja: 20:25 Traxie21|Kindle Nope 20:25 ironzorg / 20:25 Traxie21|Kindle Just registering names 20:25 ShadowNinja What are you trying to tell me ironzorg? 20:25 Menche nobody has actually said anything on #minetest-delta for a few days 20:26 Calinou ironzorg, we know, put two slashes and it'll say 1 slash in chat 20:26 Traxie21|Laptop Welp 20:26 Traxie21|Laptop I'm off 20:26 Calinou bye 20:26 Traxie21|Laptop Cyas! 20:26 Traxie21|Laptop Linux Rocks^3 20:26 mauvebic glory to you, and your house 20:26 Menche actually, same for #minetest-doc too 20:26 Menche and #minetest-mods 20:27 Calinou mauvebic, and her kindle? D: 20:27 mauvebic p'tahk 20:27 mauvebic :P 20:27 Calinou Menche, two channels are enough :P 20:27 mauvebic kindle? 20:27 Calinou "Traxie21|Kindle" 20:27 mauvebic those chocolate eggs with plastic toys? 20:27 Calinou heh 20:27 sdzen haha :P 20:27 sdzen those eggs are good 20:27 Calinou amazon tablet, similar build quality :P 20:27 sdzen d 20:28 sdzen grr 20:28 mauvebic me no likeys tablets 20:28 mauvebic even changed my mind on android phones 20:28 Calinou for heating your house, a GTX 680 will do the job better than an ipad, for the same price 20:28 mauvebic i have a cat that demands less attention 20:28 Calinou it's cold in france, right now :< 20:29 Calinou mauvebic, lol'd at the comparison :P 20:29 mauvebic dang 20:29 mauvebic here its so warm everything melted in a day and the sewers backed up 20:29 mauvebic i kept hearing this strange noise from the toilet, i thought it was trying to communicate 20:29 mauvebic turns out it was air backing up 20:29 Calinou communist toilet 20:29 mauvebic then the tub, the sinks 20:29 mauvebic seriously lol 20:30 mauvebic got drano 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet it is so hot here i am sweeting from sitting outside in the shade 20:30 * Calinou is now playing: CommunistCraft 20:30 jojoa1997|Tablet wait a second why am i stil out here 20:30 * jojoa1997|Tablet goes inside 20:30 Calinou the power of tablets: feel any temperature, in minutes 20:30 mauvebic neck pain too 20:30 mauvebic back pain 20:31 mauvebic i slept on a futon for 2 years so that dont help lol 20:31 JesseH I heard notch is in this channel 20:31 JesseH getting ideas 20:31 Menche ? 20:31 mauvebic he doesn't even work on MC anymore 20:31 JesseH Oh is it you Menche ????? 20:31 mauvebic or so ive heard 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet he does 20:31 Doyousketch2 tablet's ok on heat, but got a laptop that's got that crazy heat issue. 20:31 JesseH mauvebic, don't believe what the internet says 20:31 jojoa1997|Tablet he is under his real name though 20:31 JesseH 0x10c hasnt been worked on in forever 20:31 Menche yeah, i thought notch left MC 20:32 JesseH the lazy bastards 20:32 Menche and was working on another project 20:32 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i wonder why minecraft finally decided to split their extures in different files 20:32 mauvebic with food prices going up lately, maybe he needs to milk the MC thing a little longer 20:32 Calinou JesseH, lol 20:32 jojoa1997|Tablet probably because they saw the prob of adding more nodes 20:32 * Calinou already saw jeb_ and ez (Notch's ex-wife) in #minecraft @ espernet 20:32 Menche didn't minetest add jungles before minecraft did? 20:33 mauvebic who cares who did what first? 20:33 mauvebic :P 20:33 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but ours were bleh 20:33 Calinou Menche, we did 20:33 mauvebic everything they can do, we can do better if we put our heads together 20:33 Calinou we should've patented that feature 20:33 Menche mesecons added lightstone before MC redstone got, whatever they call the equivalent 20:33 mauvebic or rather, when 20:34 Calinou Menche, mesecons are incredibly powerful, much better than minecraft's redstone 20:34 Calinou the redstone has a nice "fantasy" feel but for fantasy reasons, it is too limited 20:34 mauvebic yeah though mesecons could practically be a game in and of itself 20:34 Calinou e.g. no ability to place it in air or on walls 20:34 Calinou mesecons are more like electricity, I'm fine with that 20:35 Jordach well, that's a good start :P nuclear power station went band in simcity 2000 20:35 Menche my server has powerlines, couldn't do that with redstone because they have to be next to a solid node 20:35 Jordach bang* 20:35 mauvebic thought V said mesecons was like, TTL? 20:35 Calinou TTL? 20:35 mauvebic dont remember what it stands for, transistor something logic 20:35 mauvebic like, tiny amps, not kilowatts 20:35 Calinou Jordach, the new simcity removed them, now you can use internet-connection-powered water mills 20:36 Calinou only works if you have an internet connection 20:36 mauvebic and whenever the sims are thirsty, they all drive to the nearest pumping station 20:36 Jordach Calinou, i play the old 2000 version, before SC3,4 20:36 mauvebic and all the sims line up for the same hooker 20:36 Jordach my reactor exploded and annialated my city :P 20:39 Hwkiller does anyone else get really funky node images sometimes? the blocks are fine, but their picture in the inventory is way off 20:39 mauvebic texture_atlas = false 20:39 mauvebic *enable_tex... 20:39 Hwkiller in world.mt? 20:39 Hwkiller or... no, minetest.conf? 20:39 mauvebic i hear some people are approaching the node limite of 4096? insane 20:40 * VanessaE has returned (scrollback tl;dr) 20:40 mauvebic minetest.conf 20:40 Menche minetest.conf 20:40 VanessaE afternoon all 20:40 Jordach hey VanessaE 20:40 * Menche thinks that enable_texture_atlas and preload_item_visuals should be disabled by default 20:40 VanessaE hey 20:40 mauvebic yeah seems most people have to do it nowadays 20:41 Calinou mauvebic, so when cars need fuel, they go to the nearest mcdonalds 20:41 VanessaE mauvebic: approaching? I exceeded it last night :( 20:41 RealBadAngel texture atlas is disabled by default and will be completely removed 20:41 mauvebic youd have thought they learned their lesson with simsocieties 20:41 Calinou Menche, atlas is off by default already, visuals is on sadly 20:42 Calinou RealBadAngel, poor c-fifty-five, he spent hours coding that :( 20:42 Calinou but it's not adapted for a game where you have mods 20:42 mauvebic 4096 nodes? how can one possibly have that many nodes? lol at around 1K i was like, ok , enough lol 20:42 Calinou it was fine when the game was monolithic 20:42 Calinou mauvebic, stairsplus 20:42 Calinou now everyone will blame me D: 20:42 VanessaE mauvebic: moretrees has stairsplus/circular saw support now, in the 'newstuff' branch 20:42 mauvebic well yeah but i have a mod with as many pieces and textures 20:43 mauvebic though, i dont have other mods creating similar pieces 20:43 RealBadAngel Calinou, in fact c55 started to make it obsolete, i just finished it 20:43 mauvebic how many doors? 20:43 VanessaE mauvebic: which is over a THOUSAND nodes by itself. 20:43 Hwkiller is a comment in lua "--" ? 20:43 Menche yes 20:43 Hwkiller I need to try to kill the tree growth in my server; it's ridiculous 20:43 VanessaE well around 750 I guess 20:43 Menche [[ ]] for a block comment 20:43 VanessaE (3 block types * 10 trees * 25 or so nodes) 20:43 mauvebic doors work fine on 2 nodes instead of 3, just get rid of the inventory placeholder and use an inventory image for the top or bottom piece 20:44 Menche or --[[ --]] 20:44 Calinou VanessaE, iirc a stairsplus material requires about 35 nodes, no? 20:44 Calinou there are 20 materials available at least 20:44 mauvebic 35 shapes? dang 20:44 VanessaE Calinou: a bit less than 32 20:44 Calinou ...more than 700 nodes 20:44 Calinou ah 20:44 Hwkiller I love the nature mod, except that it is making trees and papyrus grow to extraordinary heights 20:44 Calinou then 640 nodes already 20:44 mauvebic i have extra shapes commented out in case i ever need em, but i try to avoid it 20:44 Hwkiller like... towering over the island high 20:45 VanessaE Calinou: the saw has 32 output slots, only 2 or 3 of which are unused 20:45 RealBadAngel Calinou, you shall remove rotated ones 20:45 Calinou ah, yeah, forgot about that 20:45 Calinou RealBadAngel, won't that break compatibility? 20:45 PilzAdam Menche, FYI, you dont need the -- in front of the ]] to close a comment 20:45 mauvebic not necessarily 20:45 VanessaE Menche: I usually write --[[ ]]-- myself 20:46 Menche what're the last 2 dashes for? 20:46 PilzAdam LandMine spotted at #minetest-mods 20:46 jojoa1997|Tablet vanenessae you have too many textures in yoyur pack 20:46 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: so? :) 20:46 jojoa1997|Tablet but i have too many packs so it doesnt matter lol 20:46 RealBadAngel cut nodes count is more important than some unknown nodes which can be dug and replaced just 20:46 Menche LandMine on a dead channel? 20:46 VanessaE lots of mods support = lots of texture files. 20:46 PilzAdam Menche, he is often on #minetest-mods 20:47 mauvebic does he have the same IP as markv? 20:47 Calinou * LandMine :No such nick/channel 20:47 Menche ok, so he dropped into a dead channel, said something, then left 20:47 PilzAdam * OGLandMine (bdbf1a4c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.191.26.76) hat #minetest-mods betreten 20:47 mauvebic or likwid? 20:47 VanessaE RealBadAngel: it's as simple as adding a conversion ABM to translate the redundant nodes into the newly-rotated ones. 20:47 Menche was OGLandMine 20:47 VanessaE the same is true for any mod that gets converted over to 6d 20:48 RealBadAngel easier to dig some nodes 20:48 mauvebic im still waiting on helper functions for that lol 20:48 Calinou VanessaE, who says ABM says slow 20:48 RealBadAngel also VanessaE, drop that sideways trunks and just make regular trunks use facedir 20:48 VanessaE Calinou: when the abm converts a node, that's one less node it has to trigger on later, so after a couple of seconds in any given region, the abm has nothing left to trigger on. 20:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: too lazy ;) 20:49 RealBadAngel get your lazy ass to work then :) 20:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE: the technicaly correct way is --[[ --]] 20:49 VanessaE ShadowNinja: that doesn't look "properly" nested though 20:49 VanessaE which is why I do it the other way 20:49 mauvebic ^ whatever works 20:49 ShadowNinja in fact just ]] works 20:50 Menche the reason for that is, you can add another - to the --[[ to disable the comment 20:50 RealBadAngel use --[[ and ]]-- 20:50 Menche --]] just becomes another comment then 20:50 Calinou VanessaE, won't that slow down a server when it just started? 20:51 Calinou ShadowNinja, I always use --[[ and --]], two extra bytes don't hurt :P 20:51 Menche LandMine's on from his usual IP address 20:51 VanessaE Calinou: nope. only when a player enters an unconverted area, and then it'll be a very brief lag while the abm convers the nodes - then the abm has nothing left to trigger on 20:51 ShadowNinja Calinou: yep, me too 20:51 VanessaE just in case he shows up here... 20:51 RealBadAngel hehe 20:51 Calinou VanessaE, yes, but when the server restart, isn't the list of uncoverted areas reset? 20:51 * ShadowNinja has two ip addresses for him now 20:51 * Menche picks up a mithril sword 20:51 Calinou and how can you trigger an abm only once? set an huge interval? 20:52 * Calinou picks up a G36 like usual, Menche 20:52 VanessaE Calinou: nope. 20:52 VanessaE Calinou: you're just gonna be using add_node() to place the converted nodes. 20:53 VanessaE so the conversions will remain in the map, same as if a user had placed the 20:53 VanessaE them* 20:53 Calinou and which interval should I use then? 20:53 VanessaE Calinou: set an interval of 1 and a chance of 1. trigger on the node name you need to convert. add_node() to place it. 20:53 Calinou ah ok 20:54 VanessaE the next time the abm wants to trigger, there won't be anything to trigger on, so it won't run at all. 20:54 Calinou won't it even do a small check? 20:54 Hwkiller what's the best way to remove tons of blocks quickly? I want to kill off those gigantic, laggy trees in my server 20:54 VanessaE sure, in the engine it'll have to decide if the abm can even run, but that takes no time afaik. 20:54 VanessaE if there's nothing to run it on that is 20:54 Calinou Hwkiller, worldedit 20:54 Menche Hwkiller, try worldedit 20:54 Calinou VanessaE, ok 20:55 Hwkiller do you just replace the nodes with "air"? 20:55 Menche //replace whatever:node air 20:55 Hwkiller and how I can I find out the node name? 20:55 Calinou default:leaves and default:tree 20:56 Hwkiller thanks 20:56 Calinou Hwkiller, or, an extremely effective alternative 20:56 Calinou /giveme fire:basic_flame -1 20:56 Calinou right click trees 20:56 Menche hehehe 20:56 Calinou make sure no wooden building is near 20:56 Hwkiller lmao... hm... 20:56 Hwkiller that spreads on grass though right? 20:56 VanessaE Calinou: so that you'd do here is a loop, iterate through all the stair/slab/micro cuts that have an upside-down or sideways/wall variant, set an abm to trigger on that node, use add_node() therein to replace that with the normal right-side-up variant, rotated via 6d facedir. 20:56 Calinou -1 gives you 65535 nodes :P 20:57 Hwkiller I have no wooden buildings, but I also don't want to scorch the entire landscape 20:57 Hwkiller lol 20:57 VanessaE then here in about, oh, a month or two, the abm won't be needed anymore, so comment it out 20:57 Calinou dirt isn't flammable :P 20:57 Hwkiller oo... 20:57 Hwkiller then fire it is 20:59 Doyousketch2 dirt shouldn't be flammable. ShadowNinja was saying he ran into a bug last night where it was burning 21:01 ShadowNinja Doyousketch2: nope 21:01 Hwkiller that IS super effective 21:01 ShadowNinja I wanted a conf option to disable fire 21:01 rarkenin And an overrideable register_on_burn 21:01 Doyousketch2 I thought you said it burned out the ground under your house, and that's why you wanted to disable it 21:01 Menche a town on my server had lava as part of the city gate 21:01 Menche and wooden roads 21:02 Menche ...fire spread down the roads and hopped onto buildings, throughout the entire town 21:03 mauvebic shiiiit http://youtu.be/OmoldX1wKYQ 21:03 Menche people on my server are complaining about low FPS; i havan't had any problem with that though 21:05 Menche lava spills cause a lighting glitch where the ground stays lit even after the lava is gone 21:06 JesseH who wants to play some minetest 21:06 * Menche is playing minetest 21:06 * JesseH likes playing with others 21:07 Doyousketch2 I might play for a few. what server? 21:07 VanessaE play on mine :) 21:07 * JesseH also needs a server to play on. 21:07 JesseH VanessaE, laggy? 21:07 * Menche shamelessly bumps his 21:08 JesseH Menche, ip pl0x 21:08 VanessaE JesseH: not any more laggy than anyone else's :) 21:08 JesseH >_> 21:08 * JesseH is skeptical 21:08 Menche menche.servegame.com, i don't have any lag problems but some others report bad FPS 21:09 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000 21:09 ShadowNinja JesseH: my server? :-) 21:09 Menche don't really know what FPS has to do with the server though, that's typically client-side 21:09 jojoa1997|Tablet will he please stop spamming 21:09 * JesseH feels famous. 21:09 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82593#p82593 21:09 JesseH Everyone please PM me your servers pl0x 21:09 JesseH I have badddd add 21:10 JesseH ADD* 21:10 JesseH I'de be eternally grape-full 21:10 jojoa1997|Tablet over 1000 posts in 13 months 21:10 Calinou ADD? 21:10 Calinou too lazy to google the acronym of the day 8) 21:10 JesseH attention deficit disorder 21:10 JesseH xD 21:10 Calinou http://servers.minetest.net 21:10 VanessaE Calinou: it means he can't easily focus on one task at a time. 21:10 Calinou server list ^ 21:10 Calinou VanessaE, I know what it is :P 21:10 jojoa1997|Tablet hay just cause some one has that doesnt mean thay cant focus 21:11 jojoa1997|Tablet even though i am a great example atm havent started homework 21:11 Calinou oh, there are people on sky hardcore 21:11 JesseH When I see a wall of text, I shut off irc ;) 21:11 jojoa1997|Tablet bbut still i post alot but not useless stuff 21:11 Calinou let me connect to that server using my netbook then grief the bridges 21:11 Calinou once I've did that, some guy tried to follow me and fell 21:11 Calinou lol'd 21:12 * Menche has 816 posts since July 2011, Likwid has 1,032 since January 2013 21:12 Calinou [citation needed], jojoa1997|Tablet 21:12 Calinou about 1700 posts here 21:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Calinou ? 21:12 * JesseH sees moar text 21:12 * JesseH dies 21:12 Exio 1 post 21:12 * jojoa1997|Tablet kills 21:12 JesseH lol 21:12 Calinou people on my server are complaining about low FPS; i havan't had any problem with that though => what's your hardware? 21:13 * jojoa1997|Tablet JasseH agian 21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet again 21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i spell that 21:13 Calinou you can tab-complete 21:13 Calinou erm, there is no tab key on tablets... 21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet with posts it depends on what you can comment on 21:13 Menche Calinou, my client's hardware? core i5 M450, Nvidia Geforce 310M 21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet though likwid says whatever 21:14 jojoa1997|Tablet yes there is Calinou 21:14 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to minetest/minetest: Use system wide LuaJIT if aviable. 9449026839 2013-04-08T13:10:00-07:00 http://git.io/IHGtGg 21:14 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves my keyboard 21:14 Menche LuaJIT support committed? wooooo 21:15 Calinou heh, both guys on the server are far away from spawn, I die if I try to fall fo them :P 21:15 Calinou Menche, even though it's shit hardware, it is recent, makes an huge difference 21:15 jojoa1997|Tablet someone hold me back\ 21:15 Calinou (lol'd at 310M) 21:16 * Calinou holds jojoa1997|Tablet back 21:16 mauvebic what is shit? 21:16 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82596#p82596 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WHO THE **** CARES 21:16 mauvebic hardware or jit? 21:16 Calinou that image is a "top file" in omploader 21:17 jojoa1997|Tablet can i please kill him 21:17 Calinou you do not have the "kill" privilege, so no 21:17 * Menche gives jojoa1997|Tablet a mithril sword 21:17 jojoa1997|Tablet look at his newest post i want to cut off his hands so he cant type 21:18 * jojoa1997|Tablet has some fun with the sword 21:18 Calinou why is his omploader screenshot black and green? 21:18 mauvebic cant you just setup a fake forum where he can think he's posting? :P 21:18 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, his topic is now in a piece of paper (which is in the trash now) 21:18 Calinou post* 21:18 Calinou mauvebic, rofl 21:18 jojoa1997|Tablet someone please 21:18 * Calinou cuts jojoa1997|Tablet's hands 21:18 Calinou happy? 21:18 Menche have the forum site redirect him to a spelling help site 21:19 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 21:19 jojoa1997|Tablet i grow themn back 21:19 jojoa1997|Tablet lol YES 21:19 jojoa1997|Tablet if posts another useless post i am going to yell at hime 21:19 Calinou Menche, how about we redirect him to http://speedtest.10fastfingers.co 21:19 jojoa1997|Tablet him 21:19 Calinou Menche, how about we redirect him to http://speedtest.10fastfingers.com 21:19 Calinou typo'd ;) 21:19 Calinou if he gets > 100 WPM he will be redirected to http://forum.minetest.net after finishing 21:19 RealBadAngel sfan5|OFF, wake up, building time ;) 21:19 Calinou if he has between 2 and 99 WPM, he is redirected to a spelling help site 21:20 Menche speed: 3 wpm, accuracy: 0.01% 21:20 Calinou if he has 1 WPM, he is redirected to about:blank 21:20 jojoa1997|Tablet cool http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5514 21:20 mauvebic same idea for griefers and haters: setup a fake server with lots of fake players and a village mod :p 21:20 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet, the "don't reply to spam" applies to useless posts too 21:20 jojoa1997|Tablet ok but the next one i am going off on him 21:21 Menche via PM? 21:21 jojoa1997|Tablet then i completely ignore him 21:21 Calinou respect other users too :P 21:23 jojoa1997|Tablet i do but this guy is so 21:23 PilzAdam new win build with LuaJIT and memory leaks fixed: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 21:23 jojoa1997|Tablet agrivating 21:23 mauvebic i say drive him into the woods and leave him there 21:23 jojoa1997|Tablet remember this guy http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3949 21:23 mauvebic lol him 21:23 PilzAdam for those who done know, LuaJIT is 2 times faster than Lua 21:24 mauvebic you noticed a difference? for which mods? 21:24 RealBadAngel all of them 21:24 PilzAdam mauvebic, defaults on_generate() from 19 to 10 ms 21:24 mauvebic not exactly impartial :P PilzAdam didn't seem to think so at first 21:24 jojoa1997|Tablet so do we have to change our mods to use luajit 21:24 RealBadAngel no 21:25 mauvebic not bad 21:25 PilzAdam mauvebic, I need to sell these win build :-) 21:25 RealBadAngel you have to just install luajit and get new game build 21:25 mauvebic though, after this, there are no other cheats/hacks and people will actually have to optimize their code lol 21:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam whyu 21:25 jojoa1997|Tablet no one will buy them 21:25 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways it is open source 21:25 Menche you can sell open source software 21:25 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, please dont respond to me if you dont get what I said 21:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i did get it 21:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i know you are joking though 21:26 mauvebic i saw a bunch of pull requests from sapier for memory leaks too, they work? 21:26 Calinou PilzAdam, were serialization issues fixed? 21:26 PilzAdam of course 21:26 * Menche goes to build the latest git 21:26 Calinou cool 21:26 PilzAdam Calinou, LuaJIT is upstream now 21:26 Menche it uses luaJIT by default if it finds it? 21:26 jojoa1997|Tablet ok can i update everything but the application 21:27 Calinou you should put luajit in the list of deps to install (in the sudo apt-get install thingy in the README) 21:27 jojoa1997|Tablet for minetest. the minetest.exe 21:27 Calinou if you haven't already :P 21:27 Menche does it use luaJIT by default if it finds it? 21:27 RealBadAngel btw, for linux: http://luajit.org/download/LuaJIT-2.0.1.tar.gz 21:27 PilzAdam Calinou, its not an dependency, its optional 21:27 khonkhortisan it's a replacement library 21:27 RealBadAngel unpack, go to /src make, make install 21:27 PilzAdam bbl 21:28 RealBadAngel then compile the game 21:28 Calinou PilzAdam, vorbis is also optional, yet you put it in the line that installs deps 21:28 RealBadAngel ofc one may look in distro repos for luajit package 21:29 Calinou (well, the game will not build unless you use the option to disable sound, but still) 21:29 Calinou RealBadAngel, suddenly: newbies 21:29 mauvebic add it to deps, make sure the config option to switch it off is documented though, good compromise? 21:30 RealBadAngel theres no config option for luajit 21:30 RealBadAngel it is autodetected 21:30 mauvebic you cant switch between jit and plain lua? 21:30 mauvebic what if someone runs into a problem and they need to know if its jit, lua or their fault? 21:30 Menche if it uses luaJIT if it finds it, and normal lua if it doesn't, what's the problem? 21:31 mauvebic like, say, serialization lol 21:31 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82602#p82602 21:31 VanessaE \o/ 21:31 RealBadAngel uninstall jit, recompile to get lua back again 21:31 RealBadAngel as easy as that 21:31 mauvebic if you have both installed, would it be difficult to toggle it? 21:32 RealBadAngel lua is not installed 21:32 RealBadAngel it is bundled with mt 21:32 mauvebic ok so one is a package the other is builtin 21:32 mauvebic but same question, how difficult would it be to toggle it without rebuilding? 21:32 Calinou PilzAdam, also, if you don't mention it, packagers will not use it :P 21:32 mauvebic or you have to recompile? 21:32 Exio -- LuaJIT found. 21:32 Exio :D 21:32 RealBadAngel you have to recompile 21:32 mauvebic dang 21:33 mauvebic so when i take tarball of minetest git, and compile it in a local folder, no matter what if jit is installed thats what it goes with? 21:33 * jojoa1997|Tablet debating wether i should yell http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82603#p82603 21:33 jojoa1997|Tablet nah 21:33 Doyousketch2 I agree. if it's optional, it should have a commandline option when installing 21:33 Menche like, -DENABLE_LUAJIT ? 21:33 RealBadAngel mauvebic, mt uses system wide installed luajit 21:34 RealBadAngel same as irrlicht 21:34 mauvebic cuz just yesterday i asked if i could run both and V said yes 21:34 Doyousketch2 to disable it, for error testing. yes Menche 21:35 Menche "Hey how do you make a build work? like how you make the source code files gone, and have a .exe?" LOL 21:35 Calinou Menche, windows user explained 21:35 VanessaE mauvebic: sure, you build once, then install luajit and build again in a separate build tree. 21:35 Calinou one should paste this quote every time someone complains about linux 21:35 VanessaE voila, two builds, one with and one without jit 21:35 mauvebic ok that tiny detail would have been handy :P 21:35 mauvebic but now i know 21:35 Doyousketch2 it can automatically use it if it's there, but if you don't want to use it you should be able to disable it without having to uninstall the package 21:36 * Menche says add a ENABLE_LUAJIT cmake option that is on by default 21:36 paxcoder how to see where your home is set? 21:36 mauvebic go outside ? 21:36 mauvebic :P 21:36 Calinou use google maps + street view 21:36 paxcoder i need to set new home 21:36 * jojoa1997|Tablet turns on his gps 21:37 mauvebic lol 21:37 paxcoder without losing place 21:37 mauvebic we are oodles of help today 21:37 Exio ../bin/minetest: error while loading shared libraries: libluajit-5.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 21:37 * jojoa1997|Tablet picks up a house and moves it 21:37 Exio ffffffffffffff 21:37 mauvebic what system> 21:37 mauvebic usually when i get that i have to take the file, make a backup and change the 2 for a 1 21:37 paxcoder can someone tell me how to find out where my home is set? 21:37 RealBadAngel exio, how you have installed jit? 21:38 mauvebic like, so.2 -> so.1 21:38 mauvebic or since .2 is missing, grab the .1 and change it to .2 21:38 Exio make clean; make -j7; checkinstall make install 21:38 Exio mauvebic: sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libluajit-5.1.so.2{.0.1,} 21:38 Menche rerun cmake? 21:38 mauvebic works too 21:38 mauvebic happens with pacman sometimes 21:38 mauvebic must be a kernel thing 21:39 RealBadAngel i mean luajit library not the game 21:39 mauvebic damn kernel saunders 21:39 Exio RealBadAngel: how i installed luajit :P 21:39 mauvebic linux kernel now available in cripsy, ultra cripsy and original recipe 21:39 Exio mauvebic: the dynamic loader, how dynamic libs works 21:39 RealBadAngel exio, via package or compiled from sources? 21:40 mauvebic yeah no its no one's fault but the linux peoples 21:40 Exio RealBadAngel: source 21:41 Hwkiller anyone know why carts randomly stop? 21:41 RealBadAngel and whats your distro? 21:41 Calinou mauvebic, you forgot realtime recipe where you eat as you cook 21:41 Doyousketch2 rusty wheels 21:41 mauvebic lol youd get sick from doing that 21:41 Exio RealBadAngel: debian6 21:41 mauvebic tho, in no way garantees you wont get sick from eating fully cooked KFC/PFK 21:42 RealBadAngel maybe i should force mt to use .a instead of .so 21:42 RealBadAngel that would prevent such errors 21:42 mauvebic dynamic loaders lol 21:42 mauvebic tho point me to a pub and ill show you a real dynamic loader 21:44 sdzen so is minetest going to use luajit instead of lua? (default minetest build from git) 21:44 mauvebic Sea 55 in progress: http://www.zimg.eu/i/538994961 21:45 Calinou I see 55. 21:45 mauvebic if we had force loading, id so use a dozen entities to fill this up faster lol 21:46 mauvebic Sea 55 has to be big enough to hold half a dozen ocean liners, and a dozen more uboats 21:46 RealBadAngel sdzen, if theres luajit installed in system game will use it instead of builtin lua 21:47 sdzen hmm 21:47 sdzen cool 21:47 RealBadAngel ofc course its compile time case, not runtime 21:47 mauvebic fuck me, luajit was in the repos all along lol 21:48 mauvebic i kept compiling it seperately for tests 21:50 mauvebic which one? community/luajit 2.0.0-3 21:50 mauvebic Just-in-time compiler and replacement for Lua 5.1 21:50 mauvebic aur/luajit2-git 20110818-1 (12) 21:51 mauvebic 2011 sounds old 21:51 Exio use the oficial repos 21:51 RealBadAngel im using jit compiled from sources 21:51 Exio you should avoid aur as possible 21:51 Exio inb4 mauvebic installs the aur package 21:51 mauvebic minetest-git is in aur 21:51 sdzen and has an outdated version printed on it :) 21:52 mauvebic who cares if the listing is wrong, it still pulls from git 21:52 Hwkiller doesnt matter 21:52 sdzen true 21:52 Hwkiller also, use my pkgbuild in the commemts 21:53 mauvebic though at compile im getting alot of exceptions, is it just me/my dist or everyone? 21:53 VanessaE mauvebic: warnings you mean? everyone gets that. 21:53 Menche i get lots of compiler warnings 21:53 mauvebic exceptions/warnings whatever, it all reads like spanish to me lol 21:53 VanessaE lol 21:54 sdzen the amount of compiler warnings in minetest has doubled for me lately 21:54 mauvebic ok so its not just me 21:55 sdzen course I could be seeing double (I do that sometimes) 21:55 sdzen but no i tihnk there is more now 21:55 RealBadAngel sapier has left there some unused variables 21:56 Menche the new_style_water looks weird when there's a solid block underwater 21:57 Menche looks like there's a slice of air under the node 21:57 Menche s/block/node 22:00 mauvebic i thought there was a slice of air on top? 22:00 Menche underneath the solid node 22:00 Taoki Hi. When creating a formspec, how do you make its values stay remembered for that node (when you right-click it again and see the menu)? 22:00 Taoki For me they revert to defaults 22:00 Menche put a solid node underwater with water on all 6 sides 22:03 RealBadAngel Taoki, store data in nodes meta 22:03 Taoki RealBadAngel: Tried that for the text field but it didn't work 22:03 RealBadAngel hold on 22:03 Taoki eg: meta:set_string("name_of_field", "default") 22:07 mauvebic i wonder if paramat could write a better ocean mod than what ive got lol 22:08 alex256 what is the priv for admin called? 22:08 mauvebic server 22:08 alex256 tthanks 22:10 mauvebic the config options for server listings are...: server_name and server_desc i think? 22:20 * Kacey is tired of icechat already 22:23 Kacey brb 22:24 Hwkiller he should s/icechat/weechat 22:25 Kacey yep hexchat is slightly better than icechat 22:28 Hwkiller he should s/icechat/weechat 22:36 Kacey no 22:36 Kacey i am used to xchat 22:43 Hwkiller pbbt 22:44 Hwkiller http://i.imgur.com/Snq6TY9.jpg <-- what it's all about 22:45 Kacey uuuum... no 22:49 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTE5dg/Screenshot%20(3).png 22:49 Kacey hexchat 22:49 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTE5eg/Screenshot%20(1).png 22:50 Kacey xchat 22:57 Hwkiller disgusting 22:58 Hwkiller windows 8 nonetheless 22:58 Hwkiller eek 23:01 Hwkiller you need linux in your life 23:07 PilzAdam bye 23:07 Kacey i used linux on my netbook (and liked it) but windows can do certain things linux cannot and vice versa 23:09 Hwkiller aside from video editing, what is linux lacking in? 23:15 VanessaE many would say it still lacks games (despite the advent of Steam) 23:15 VanessaE others would say it lacks business-critical apps, the mainframe-looking shit you always see being used in offices, or those really complicated data-entry apps you see so often in doctors' offices. 23:18 Kacey basically linux does the more "unclean" tasks that windows doesnt 23:22 * Kacey might set up a VM 23:25 Kacey do i want Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 23:26 YoungDerp do i want Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10? 23:28 mauvebic i dont fucking believe it - 5 days after sending me a payment confirmation, my ISP sent me a payment reminder for the same bloody bill 23:28 mauvebic what do i do with these guys? 23:34 Kacey huh 23:34 Kacey running Ubuntu next to Windows 8? 23:34 Kacey good idea? 23:41 VanessaE mauvebic: you call and raise hell 23:41 mauvebic if they returned calls 23:42 mauvebic i just looked at their review page at canadianisp.ca, theyve been helping themselves to customers' credit cards for 3-4 months now 23:42 mauvebic no wonder they kept hassling us for a credit card number, easier to double-bill 23:43 VanessaE I presume you withheld it :) 23:44 mauvebic i dont think ill send them a penny more 23:44 mauvebic my credits' already shit, they can send it to collections for all i care 23:44 NotReallyNick I'm told many people don't like 12.10. Go for 12.04. 23:45 VanessaE *nod* 23:45 VanessaE 12.04 here too 23:45 VanessaE 12.10 was a train wreck 23:45 Kacey lol 13.04 is coming out soon 23:46 VanessaE true 23:46 VanessaE but it ain 23:46 VanessaE but it ain's LTS :) 23:46 VanessaE *sigh* 23:48 Kacey maybe even an arch VM 23:49 Kacey nope nvm 23:50 NotReallyNick Yeah, I'm sticking with the LTS so I don't have to burn as many disks and reset my computer as often. 23:50 Hwkiller you can just upgrade from lts to the current release though 23:50 * Kacey wishes he had a usb to set up YUMI on 23:51 Kacey but my PC wont allow booting to the usb anyway 23:51 Hwkiller do-release-upgrade 23:52 Hwkiller and how old is your computer, Kacey, for it not to allow usb boot? 23:52 Kacey brand new 23:53 Hwkiller then it surely allows usb boot; that seems ridiculous 23:53 Kacey microsoft made it so that the companies have to make the boot menu pretty well impossible to get to 23:53 Hwkiller ? how 23:54 Hwkiller it'd be against ms's interests to block usb booting 23:54 Hwkiller many of their own tools use it