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00:14 mauvebic the whole topface of the titanic is covered in floor tile lol
00:16 mauvebic no animated flag mods?
00:22 mauvebic compare: http://604now.com/wordpress2012/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/titanic2.jpg
00:22 mauvebic and http://ompldr.org/vaTA1bA/screenshot_3698856590.png
00:23 NakedFury you could have tried giving at least the same poin t of view
00:23 NakedFury looks good
00:24 frogcrus1 Has anyone tried making a mod center?
00:24 sapier more than one person
00:25 mauvebic seriously lol
00:29 mauvebic and most of the serious modders have pages too
00:31 frogcrus1 It would be nice to have an official one
00:31 mauvebic dang
00:32 mauvebic theyre working on some sort of mod repo based on whats in releases
00:32 PilzAdam there we go
00:32 VanessaE mauvebic: all right damn it, plug the internet back in.
00:32 VanessaE :)
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00:32 mauvebic dont rmember if opt in or opt out
00:33 PilzAdam ChanServ is still not repsonding
00:33 mauvebic i have to opt out since i rewrite/merge/split so often its not practical and i dont wanna offer support if ppl are distributing oldies
00:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSuSo60Pcss
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00:36 mauvebic i wonder if they're coming back lol
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00:41 mauvebic could almost go for a 3rd pot of coffee today lol
00:42 NakedFury resisit
00:42 NakedFury resist
00:42 NakedFury drink something else
00:47 mauvebic its weird, i have light & dark spots appearing in areas already generated
00:48 NakedFury thats minetest for you
00:48 NakedFury bringing random weirdness all the time
00:55 NotReallyNick Some of the random weirdness is even intentional!
00:57 NakedFury but the lightning has to be fixed
01:03 mauvebic V's moves water
01:04 mauvebic dunno about the other liquids
01:05 mauvebic naw dont play with finite liquids so i never accounted for it
01:05 mauvebic need the juice for other things than finite liquids lol
01:05 NotReallyNick I don't see any point to finite liquids anyway.
01:06 NotReallyNick They don't fit the style of the game.
01:06 PilzAdam bye
01:06 NotReallyNick Bye.
01:09 Exio about git in general my skills (from 1 to 10) is sqrt(-1)
01:09 Exio are*
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01:14 jojoa1997|Tablet good news
01:14 VanessaE what?
01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i edited the inventory to allow people to change back and forth from crateive
01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet in minitest
01:15 VanessaE oh.
01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet but better news is i am learning how to make formspecs
01:16 jojoa1997|Tablet so now i might be able to make  soomme dfor npc mod
01:17 jojoa1997|Tablet though i did get a good crafting pic and an arrow pic pointing
01:19 jojoa1997|Tablet http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/M/Minecraft/Everything%20else/Beginners%20guide/Minecraft%204%20-%20inventory%20and%20wood%20block--article_image.jpg
01:19 jojoa1997|Tablet see the arrow and the crafting word
01:19 NakedFury I havent played since 0.4.3 or .4
01:20 NakedFury is the ingame menu still the ugly black transparent?
01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet for what
01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest or miecraft
01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest is still ugly
01:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i like minecrafts more
01:21 NakedFury minetest
01:21 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae how do i change the inventory background
01:32 NakedFury I think RealBadAngel was experimenting with that months ago
01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet ReakBadAngek ping
01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet ReakBadAngel ping
01:36 jojoa1997|Tablet does inventory unified diable creative
01:36 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: you just have to supply a proper image file is all
01:36 VanessaE I forget the filename though
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01:39 bas0801 Please help with how to remove craft grid.
01:39 bas0801 is it part of the creative mod?
01:39 mauvebic yep
01:39 mauvebic its the 3x3 inv formspec entry
01:39 NakedFury the crafting grid from the inventory view?
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01:40 Psychotic Anyone up?
01:40 Psychotic Guise.
01:40 Psychotic Check out who registered at the forum, probably a troll: http://imgur.com/wyoU1Qb
01:40 Kacey nope nobody is up
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01:40 Psychotic_ Anyone see the link?
01:40 VanessaE link?
01:40 bas0801 I reduced the formspec inventory size to 3 slots, but it still picks up more... Can i reduce the amount of inventory slots?
01:40 Psychotic_ What point of view?
01:41 VanessaE ...
01:41 VanessaE oh that link
01:41 VanessaE saw it
01:41 VanessaE dunno what to say about it
01:41 bas0801 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681562/
01:41 bas0801 this doens't work
01:41 bas0801 ItemStack& InventoryList::getItem(irr::u32): Assertion 'i < m_size' failed.
01:41 bas0801 error
01:41 mauvebic wasnt me, was doing the dishes lol
01:41 mauvebic i love leftover pizza but jesus christ you pay for it all night
01:41 mauvebic they make'em an inch thick in this town lol
01:42 Psychotic_ can i have some? il lgive you a free tank/
01:42 mauvebic leftovers, all gone :p
01:42 Psychotic_ -_-
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01:42 mauvebic besides you cant ship food through the post :p
01:42 mauvebic though youd be surprised how many people are stupid enough to ship drugs through it
01:42 mauvebic drivers usually steal it though and the sender dont dare complain lol
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01:47 Kacey so is the new creative mode switching in 0.4.6?
01:50 bas0801 so i found this to set max inventory size... i think
01:50 bas0801 local inv = meta:get_inventory()
01:50 bas0801 inv:set_size("main", 8*4)
01:50 bas0801 but how to get player meta?
01:51 jojoa1997|Tablet who plays minitest
01:51 jojoa1997|Tablet MINItest
01:52 NakedFury jojoa what you did is possible in normal minetest too?
01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet it is a mod
01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet i just mess with the inventory def and changed half of it
01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
01:56 jojoa1997|Tablet idk
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02:03 jojoa1997|Tablet O.o
02:04 VanessaE that took a while
02:04 VanessaE that split happened half an hour ago.
02:06 ShadowNinja more like two hours
02:07 khonkhortisan If you kick or ban someone during a netsplit, they only have half a voice when it joins
02:07 VanessaE oh yeah, you're right
02:07 VanessaE I misread the timestamp
02:08 khonkhortisan I get a delay of four (4) seconds between singleplayer leaving the game and the luaerror being printed to terminal. Is this normal?
02:08 VanessaE not sure
02:09 khonkhortisan I'm using error("…")
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02:10 bas0801 how to set size of the main player inventory?
02:11 VanessaE no idea
02:12 NakedFury source code?
02:12 bas0801 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2004062013%20-%2004%3A12%3A18%20AM.png
02:12 khonkhortisan somebody knows, the inventory I've seen
02:12 NakedFury you want to lower inventory size?
02:12 bas0801 this is what i have now. But i can keep on digging beyond the visible inventory
02:12 bas0801 yes
02:13 khonkhortisan ♩
02:13 bas0801 has this been done?
02:13 bas0801 NakedFury, is it in the source?
02:14 Exio are you developing a "LittleTest"? :P
02:14 NakedFury dont know really. always thought to edit inventory size you needed to edit source code
02:14 NakedFury I always wanted to add another hotbar slot to have from 1 to 9 hotkeys but didnt know c++
02:15 bas0801 I am developing civilization where it is hard to get tools and crafting is only possible with expensive nodes. Making shops and specialization essential
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02:15 bas0801 Ty NakedFury
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02:15 bas0801 Maybe i can find a hacky lua way to do this
02:16 khonkhortisan mesecon specialization, plumbing, smelting, I like the idea having all that separate.
02:16 bas0801 Atm i'm checking the 9th slot for nodes. If so it drops the node that is dug
02:17 bas0801 atm i'm working on very minimal inventory where you have only 3 slots. two for tools and one for carrying stuff. This opens doors for mods that allow logistics
02:17 NakedFury I would also like for nodes to drop like in minecraft if there is no space for them in inventory
02:18 NakedFury and for back packs or carrying items?
02:18 bas0801 later i will make mod that allow "factories" crafting nodes that craft when resources are available.
02:18 bas0801 autocrafter in pipeworks does this already
02:18 bas0801 I would however like to make some changes and maybe limitations
02:18 NakedFury would that also work like limiting weight?
02:18 Exio NakedFury: they drop if there is no space in the inv (atm)
02:19 mauvebic ooo, the people are back
02:19 mauvebic only took three loads of dishes
02:19 bas0801 Limiting weight. I like!
02:19 NakedFury the character can only carry 2 tools and 99 of same node. strong enough for that
02:19 bas0801 Tools weighing less then nodes...
02:19 bas0801 That would require to define weight per group or node
02:20 NakedFury I just meant that the way you want only 3 slots could work as if that was how much weight a character could carry
02:21 bas0801 Exactly. Only 3 slots carrying capacity
02:21 NakedFury and 2 most be tools or whatever you want?
02:22 bas0801 Whatever. i think 3 slots is enough limitation
02:22 NakedFury I could already see the player domesticating a donkey or mule to pull his cart with materials
02:22 bas0801 donkey mod. Are you up for it?
02:23 NakedFury not good with coding such complicated stuff
02:23 NakedFury but no animal would be needed if there was a simple human muscle powered cart that you pull or push around
02:24 NakedFury like the small construction cart workers push with sand or concrete or dirt
02:26 bas0801 haha, or coal powered
02:26 NotNickIsAway Or firewood owered.
02:27 NakedFury we got 3 types:
02:27 NakedFury http://www.masterfile.com/stock-photography/image/400-05026527/Hauling-a-cart-down-an-old-road
02:28 NakedFury http://www.swampyacresfarm.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Camel-Cart_India-1024x768.jpg
02:28 NakedFury that last second got cut dammit
02:28 NakedFury cammel pulled cart
02:29 NotNickIsAway Why not list them? Why make us follow links to each?
02:29 NakedFury http://gazettextra.com/photos/galleries/gazette-staff-flooding-photos/1825/
02:29 NakedFury image is faster than searching words to describe them
02:29 NakedFury isnt a picture worth a thousand words or something like that?
02:30 NotNickIsAway Typeing "cammel pulled cart" takes less time, but whatever works for you.
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02:31 NakedFury yeah but wanted to show how it would look in the game
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02:31 NotNickIsAway It's worth a thousand words if you can get people to click it. I clicked the first, but then realized it was an image not the plugin you wrote, and didn't click the other two.
02:31 bas0801 I have an idea. I will fill all the inventory slots with invisible nodes except the first three
02:32 NotNickIsAway I don't really feel like spawning browser pages right now.
02:32 bas0801 Or first 8... as you can still use 1,2,3,4 and q to empty the first 8
02:32 jojoa1997|Tablet what have you made\
02:32 jojoa1997|Tablet pics please
02:32 NotNickIsAway Shrinking inventory can be done. Hold on, I'll get the code.
02:32 arsdragonfly| bas0801 , furnaces in the latest have a new feature
02:33 NotNickIsAway On my server, we used to INCREASE inventory size, but it can be done in reverse.
02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
02:33 bas0801 that's good news!
02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i made the inven smaller for craft
02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the new stuff for furnaces
02:33 arsdragonfly| bas0801,non-fuel blocks cant be placed in the bottom slot,no items can be placed in the output slot
02:34 NotNickIsAway minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player)
02:34 NotNickIsAway player:get_inventory():set_size("main", 8*6)
02:34 NotNickIsAway end)
02:34 bas0801 am trying
02:34 NotNickIsAway That increases, but use a smaller number to decrease.
02:35 NakedFury smaller like ..., 2*3?
02:35 NakedFury what would that do?
02:35 NotNickIsAway Yeah.
02:35 jojoa1997|Tablet oh guess what
02:35 NotNickIsAway That would make the inventory size be six.
02:35 bas0801 That works!
02:35 NakedFury the first number is hotbar and second inventory?
02:36 bas0801 Thanks, NotNickIsAway
02:36 NotNickIsAway No. The hotbar is always eight.
02:36 NotNickIsAway 2*3 == 6, so the inventory size would be six.
02:36 NakedFury then to change hotbar would not be posible with lua?
02:36 jojoa1997|Tablet nonono
02:36 bas0801 Your contribution has been noted in the code comment
02:37 jojoa1997|Tablet the first is rows the second is collumns
02:37 NotNickIsAway Setting the inventory size smaller than eight causes weird hotbar errors, but you can get it down to eight without issue.
02:38 arsdragonfly| What if we make the slots in hotbar unable to get items?
02:38 arsdragonfly| like the output slot in the furnace
02:38 NotNickIsAway Then you will have blamnk spots in the hotbar, but no errors.
02:38 NotNickIsAway *blank
02:39 bas0801 Using player:get_inventory():set_size( requires the amount of slots to be larger than 7
02:40 NakedFury then I guess what I said about source was true
02:40 NotNickIsAway I thought it allowed lower numbers, but made the hotbar act strangely. Maybe that was fixed?
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02:40 NakedFury to edit it to what you want without some weird hacky way do source code
02:40 Hwkiller I just tried adding the "farming plus" mod but it errors out with this:  attempt to concatenate a nil value
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02:41 Hwkiller it says it happens on line 28, which says: dofile(minetest.get_modpath("farming_plus").."/rubber.lua"
02:42 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make on mapgen mob spawner api
02:42 NotNickIsAway Okay. You need Minetest 0.4.5 or 0.4.6 to get the rubber file to work.
02:43 Hwkiller I have .4.5
02:43 NotNickIsAway I don't know what the issue is then. Sorry.
02:43 Kacey do you have farming installed?
02:43 NotNickIsAway Me? Yeah.
02:43 Hwkiller yup
02:51 Kacey updating minetest
02:52 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make on mapgen mob spawner api
02:53 arsdragonfly| What's that for?
02:54 NotNickIsAway jojoa1997|Tablet: The regular on mapgen API can spawn mobs.
02:54 VanessaE mauvebic: I can confirm the mapgen/seed glitch you experienced, by the way.  happened on my map too, but luckily it was way out in un-spoiled terrain
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb how
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet patebin.com
02:54 NotNickIsAway The same way you spawn ant entity.
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet show me an example
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet have it spawn "mobs:skeleton"
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet but how do i spawn one
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont know where to look
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet or where axamples are
02:55 NotNickIsAway Take an example of mob spawning, and wrap it in an on_mapgen() function.
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no entities are spawned in vanilla
02:56 Kacey falling sand/gravel
02:58 Kacey night
02:59 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81835#p81835
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03:00 NotNickIsAway Building an API for that when there already is one will just cause lag.
03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet bu there isnt
03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet ubnless you can show me where an example is
03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet show me code
03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet please
03:03 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam skeletons are made for minitest
03:03 NotNickIsAway jojoa1997|Tablet: Yes, there is. Show me an exaple of a mob being spawned, and I'll edit it to spawn on mapgen.
03:03 NotNickIsAway All you do, is wrap it in an on_mapgen().
03:04 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
03:08 jojoa1997|Tablet who thinks tnt should be added to default agaion
03:08 NotNickIsAway NO.
03:08 NotNickIsAway Everyone would get their buildings blown up.
03:08 NakedFury I think we should limit destructive stuff in default to water and lava and fire
03:09 NotNickIsAway Yeah, for sure.
03:10 * NotNickIsAway has perfected the art of picking locked doors in Minetest
03:10 sdzen dig around them?
03:11 NotNickIsAway No. Actually open them. Set the screwdriver to mode on, and click the top and bottom of the "locked" door.
03:11 NotNickIsAway *mode one
03:11 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/items.lua
03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i set the screwdriver mode
03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet to mde 2
03:12 NotNickIsAway Is that just the spawn code? I'm not digging around to find the spawn code, just to show you how to wrap in in a function. Show me JUST the spawn code itself.
03:13 NotNickIsAway Shift and click.
03:13 jojoa1997|Tablet line 316
03:13 NotNickIsAway The whole spawn is done in that line?
03:14 jojoa1997|Tablet no
03:14 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm]
03:15 NotNickIsAway Show me JUST the spawn code. I'm not going to hunt for it. Either wrap it in the function yourself, or show me JUST the part you need wrapped.
03:15 jojoa1997|Tablet 316-358
03:16 NotNickIsAway You tell me to use pastebin, but won't use it yourself? I'm not going to work with the whole file. JUST THE SPAWN CODE.
03:16 jojoa1997|Tablet i cannot paste on tablet
03:17 jojoa1997|Tablet super hard took a minute to get the link right
03:18 NotNickIsAway Okay. When you edit the code, all you have to do is wrap it in the on_generate() function. Other than that, it's exactly the same as manually spawning them.
03:18 jojoa1997|Tablet what light level is sunset
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03:35 Menche is there a way to clear out the last poll to post a new one?
03:35 NotNickIsAway No, I don't think so. Sorry.
03:35 Menche can moderators clear the poll block?
03:36 NotNickIsAway By the way, I only knew you were talking about in the forum because I just read your post.
03:36 Menche it seems we can't delete our threads any more
03:36 Menche yeah
03:37 Menche can a moderator edit the old poll out of the post?
03:37 NotNickIsAway I'm not a moderator, I wouldn't know.
03:38 Menche any moderators on? VanessaE?
03:38 VanessaE hm?
03:38 VanessaE oh that, I can't.
03:38 VanessaE hell, I can't even do that for my own posts for some reason
03:39 Menche grr
03:39 VanessaE I had to have one of the other mods do it when I needed to delete one of my own polls.
03:39 Menche apparently it didn't time out
03:39 Menche so i'm stuck with that forever and forever now?
03:39 NotNickIsAway And we now officially know the forum's poll system is defective.
03:40 VanessaE Menche: naw, one of the other mods will do it, you just need to bring it to their attention
03:40 VanessaE I think thexyz fixed mine.
03:41 NotNickIsAway So they can, but you cannot? Odd.
03:41 Menche moderators have different privs?
03:42 * Menche doesn't know why ordinary members can't edit their own polls
03:42 VanessaE beats me.
03:42 VanessaE NotNickIsAway: yep.
03:42 * VanessaE is the black sheep of the moderator family :P
03:42 NotNickIsAway I've thought about that, and I think it's to avoid people editing the labels to chose the results.
03:42 Menche NotNickDoesn'tLookAway
03:43 VanessaE well maybe so
03:43 Menche we should at least to be able to reset/delete them
03:43 VanessaE but if you're running a poll, you have a pretty good chance of being able to manipulate the results anyway
03:43 Menche makes sense to not allow editing live
03:43 VanessaE or just ignoring the,
03:43 VanessaE them*
03:44 NotNickIsAway NotReallyNick keeps coming and going, and doesn't really feel like repeatedly editing his tag. At least with this tag, people don't really expect me to be here, and don't really think I'm ignoring them if I don't really answer.
03:45 * NotNickIsAway really thinks that was really to many "really"s.
03:45 VanessaE yeah, really.
03:45 Menche really?
03:46 Menche oh, really.
03:46 Menche you really shouldn't really overuse really, really
03:46 NakedFury would this work as a ingame cart? http://imgur.com/AUVwWQM
03:46 NakedFury made it now
03:46 NotReallyNick It goes with this new name though.
03:47 VanessaE NakedFury: double the number of faces on the wheels
03:47 VanessaE (make them more round)
03:47 VanessaE otherwise, that looks good
03:47 NakedFury ohh well I was trying to not make them round in case some nutjob purist of cubeness came around
03:48 Menche would square wheels be acceptible in the minetest world?
03:48 NotActuallyNick No, not really.
03:48 VanessaE NakedFury: who cares about those nutjobs?
03:48 VanessaE your mod, your design, YOUR RULES. :)
03:48 NotActuallyNick True.
03:48 VanessaE same reason I refuse to make my pipes look boxy in pipeworks.
03:48 NakedFury the idea will be that the cart would have a small-ish inventory and I would like for it visually change appareance when it has items
03:48 VanessaE (in fact, I've been considering radically increasing the number of boxes per, to make them more rounded.
03:49 NotNamedNick There. No more "really".
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03:49 NotNamedNick Yeah, I don't follow some of the conventions in my plugins either. People can just deal with it.
03:50 NotNamedNick Hmm. "NotNamedNick" lacks the same meaning as "NotReallyNick".
03:51 Menche or you could just use your old "us_0gb
03:51 Menche "
03:51 Menche sans the line break, of course
03:51 Guest21098 "us_0gb" lacks meaning too, without the corect order and a dot.
03:52 Menche Ogb.us?
03:52 VanessaE Menche: can
03:52 VanessaE ca
03:52 VanessaE can't put a period in a username.
03:52 VanessaE (what moron put the ' next to 'enter'?  :-/  )
03:52 Menche oh
03:52 Inmate21098 "Ogb.us" has a different meaning altogether.
03:52 NakedFury ok then. question: do textures behave different in the game if things are round? would round nodes and things stress the renderer/engine/whatever?
03:53 sdzen s0ggybus
03:53 Inmate21098 The do take more effort for the computer to render, yes.
03:53 khonkhortisan My ' is diagonal from capslock
03:54 ChauffeR `
03:54 mauvebic did someone ping me?
03:54 mauvebic scrolled up but cant see
03:54 ChauffeR do you use znc, mauvebic
03:54 Inmate21098 I didn't, but I can if you want me to.
03:54 mauvebic dont know what it is
03:54 ChauffeR ok
03:55 Hwkiller I wish I knew anything about coding; I'd love to contribute in some way
03:55 Hwkiller unfortunately, I know only some bash/zsh and R.
03:56 Hwkiller and know only english; I'm useless :p
03:56 mauvebic lua is easy as pie
03:56 mauvebic any experience with php/perl and the likes?
03:56 VanessaE mauvebic:
03:56 Hwkiller mauvebic: nope
03:56 VanessaE mauvebic: I can confirm the mapgen/seed glitch you experienced, by the way.  happened on my map too, but luckily the damage was minimal and way out in un-spoiled terrain
03:56 Hwkiller the only thing I've done with php is modify some pre-stamped out code for a study I ran
03:56 Hwkiller and that was a little more than sed -e s// stuff.
03:57 _ All theshort punctuation names are registered.
03:57 mauvebic so your map_meta.txt was overwritten too :/
03:57 VanessaE mauvebic: yes.  restoring my correct seed was enough to arrest the problem.
03:57 VanessaE Nick: better stop that, you might get booted off the network for nick flooding.
03:57 Menche is Nick really Nick?
03:57 Menche for "nick" flooding. lol.
03:57 mauvebic Hwkiller you could always find a really simple mod and tweak that 'til youre confident enough to add/remove stuff
03:57 Guest88806 No. I'm not really Nick.
03:58 mauvebic restored the seed, had you changed anything else in map meta? i changed my beach/desert proportions on mine
03:58 Hwkiller mauvebic: maybe. I need to learn python this summer for research
03:58 Hwkiller so maybe then
03:59 Hwkiller I did take a course in java, but we didn't really do anything practical; all it did was get me used to the syntax of OOP
03:59 mauvebic OOP is more practical for core dev, and even there, used sparingly
04:00 Guest88806 I took a Java course too, but I'd already learne OOP from PHP.
04:00 Hwkiller my dream is to learn C if only to read code on the OS I'm running; that would be a cool thing to do.
04:00 Hwkiller but that is far and away above my skill set
04:00 mauvebic reading code's easy, understanding what it all does? hmm lol
04:00 Guest88806 *learned
04:00 Guest88806 What OS?
04:01 Hwkiller linux
04:01 Guest88806 Linux is only a kernal. What OS?
04:01 Hwkiller ...
04:01 mauvebic ugh, 5.9 kbps to D/L Britannic, might as well watch on youtube lol
04:01 Guest88806 Okay, never mind.
04:01 Hwkiller technically that IS the os... but anyway, I use arch32,arch64,ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu 12.10, fedora 14 (old server)
04:02 Hwkiller er, s/12.04/13.04
04:02 Menche oooh, Arch?
04:02 Guest88806 No, technically Linux isn't an OS, it's a component used by many OSs.
04:02 * Menche uses Arch
04:02 Hwkiller 3.8.5-1-ARCH
04:02 Hwkiller :)
04:02 Hwkiller but actually I'm in ubuntu more often, since that's what's on my thinkpad that I use for school
04:02 Menche the term "linux" is commonly used as "linux-based OS"
04:02 Guest88806 I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.
04:03 Hwkiller also, linux IS the OS
04:03 Hwkiller by definition
04:03 Guest88806 Yeah, but he said Linux is "technically the OS", but technically, that's wrong.
04:03 Guest88806 No, by deffinition, Linux is a kernal, not an OS.
04:04 Menche linux is the kernel, but usually, the term "linux" is used to refer to the entire OS and "linux kernel" to refer to the kernel
04:04 Hwkiller the collection of software that directs a computer's operations, controlling and scheduling the execution of other programs, and managing storage, input/output, and communication resources. <-- OS
04:04 Hwkiller i.e., exactly what the kernel does
04:04 NakedFury ok revised version: http://imgur.com/LlAnfTf
04:04 Hwkiller the userland is just cake
04:05 NakedFury when the carts inventory is empty the cart appears empty. when it has items it will show the boxes
04:05 Guest88806 Hwkiller: So you are saying all kernals are technically OSs, not Linux specifically? Okay, I can accept that answer.
04:05 Hwkiller yes.. NT is an OS
04:05 Hwkiller darwin is an os
04:05 Menche you'd have to use a ton of nodeboxes to get a really round wheel like that
04:05 NakedFury come on!!!
04:05 NakedFury you guys told me to change it a minute ago dammit
04:06 NakedFury I asked that
04:06 NakedFury if making it more round would cause problems
04:06 Menche i mean, that's fine, if you have some tool to automate the creation of all those nodeboxes
04:06 Menche would be pretty tedious and very difficult to type it all out
04:07 NakedFury no. in my case it would be the tedious and difficult process
04:07 Guest88806 More node baxes would case problems on weaker computers.
04:07 Guest88806 *boxes
04:08 NakedFury then would this wheels be better? http://imgur.com/AUVwWQM
04:08 * Menche would say a horizontal slice of Tonyka's 3d trunks would look good
04:08 Menche wait, will you be using an entity with a mesh?
04:08 NakedFury the problem I see in this cart is that I dont know if minetest lets specify texture to the sides I want
04:08 Menche if so, then using the round wheel will be easy
04:09 NakedFury im not using anything yet. just my design for now
04:09 NakedFury but I want to have animated wheel when it is moving
04:09 Menche do the red and green lines indicate that you made that in a 3d modeling program? you could use a mesh instead of a nodebox
04:10 NakedFury I used google sketchup
04:10 Menche can that export to .x?
04:10 NakedFury let me check
04:10 * Menche hasn't used sketchup for ages
04:11 NakedFury .dwg, .dae, .kmz, .3ds, .dxf, .fbx, .obj, .wrl, .xsi
04:11 NakedFury those are the default exporters
04:12 NakedFury I can check if there is a plugin for .x
04:12 NakedFury yes there is a plugin
04:13 Menche i don't know how to do it, but that is how the player models are done
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04:14 mauvebic yay, found a version of the film that doesn't have cantonese subs all over the screen lol
04:14 Menche sketchup can export to .x? maybe it's time to pick that up again
04:14 NakedFury what film?
04:14 NakedFury with a plugin
04:15 Menche or learn blender... nah, not enough time
04:15 mauvebic Britannic, one of titanic's sister ships
04:15 mauvebic always hard to find made for tv stuff lol
04:15 Guest88806 So, does anyone have any suggestions for an IRC name? Guest88806 is too hard to remember.
04:16 Menche Ogb_us?
04:16 NakedFury ok the plugin works
04:16 NakedFury everything got exported to .x
04:16 NakedFury who are you?
04:16 NakedFury http://www.3drad.com/Google-SketchUp-To-DirectX-XNA-Exporter-Plug-in.htm
04:16 Menche Guest88806 = 0gb.us
04:17 NakedFury ohh then keep using 0gb or the NotNick something
04:17 Guest88806 It bothers me when people use an "o" in my name, I'm certainly not going to do it myself. Plus, ogb.us is a different domain than 0gb.us.
04:17 Menche i think, he was changing nicks so fast i lost track :P
04:17 Menche _0gb_us?
04:17 NakedFury stay with NotNickAlways
04:17 Guest88806 NotReallyNick was too much of a burden.
04:17 NakedFury or that^
04:17 Menche ZeroGB-US?
04:17 Guest88806 .0gb.us makes little sense.
04:17 jojoa1997|Tablet _0gb_us
04:18 jojoa1997|Tablet .._
04:18 Guest88806 zerogb.us is a different domain than 0gb.us. Trying to find a name from 0gb.us will not prove sucessful. A different sort of name would be easier.
04:19 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb
04:19 Guest88806 Yeah?
04:20 Menche names can't begin with a number or contain a period?
04:20 Guest88806 Right.
04:20 Menche or any sort of punctuation, it seems
04:20 Guest88806 So domain-based isn't the way to go.
04:20 Guest88806 You can use the or bar.
04:21 Menche thought that was called a "pipe"
04:21 or|bar Why the or bar thoug? I don't know.
04:21 or|bar Pipe. Yeah, that's what it's called. My bad.
04:21 _0gb_us see works
04:22 jojoa1997 lets everyone change to someone else's name!
04:22 or|bar I But it translates to ".0gb.us". Beginning my name with a dot makes no sense.
04:22 Jojoa1997 Registered.
04:23 * NotReallyNick is really confused
04:23 Menche yes, it's registered, but i could still use it
04:23 Jojoa1997 Oh? It looks like I get to keep this name.
04:23 Menche you could ghost me while i was using it
04:23 Jojoa1997 No. NotReallyNick isn't registered.
04:23 Menche /msg NickServ set enforce
04:24 Menche ?
04:24 Menche i think that protects it?
04:24 Jojoa1997 I was saying Jojoa1997 is regestered, not NotReallyNick.
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04:26 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Hmm. One day, I'll find a good name. One that isn't taken.
04:26 Jojoa1997 what about No_Windows
04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu While I don't run Windows, that doean't really define me.
04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu *doesn't
04:27 Jojoa1997 No_Windows
04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu True.
04:28 * WindozeSuks has to use /whois to figure out who's who :P
04:28 * Jojoa1997|Ubuntu is not really Nick
04:29 * Jojoa1997|Ubuntu is also not really Jojoa
04:29 Menche Jojoa1997|Ubuntu's whois contains "~us_0gb"
04:30 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu I have aliases, but if I use one here, it'll out them as me.
04:30 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu For example, when I used NotReallyNick, it killed my option to use it in-game.
04:30 Jojoa1997 0gb so you agree i am awesome by using my name thank you
04:31 Menche why couldn't you use it in-game?
04:31 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Of course you are awesome, but that's not why I chose your name. I chose it because you are the one who suggested we take other peoples' names.
04:31 Jojoa1997 actually that was menche
04:31 Menche that was actually me, but jojoa did it first
04:32 Jojoa1997 no
04:32 jojoa1997|Tablet i onnlyyyyyyyy wass trying to shoow 0gbb hee couuuuuuuuld have his  name
04:32 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu My in-game aliases are for when I don't want people to know who I am. So if people know NotReallyNick is really 0gb.us, it doesn't make a good alias.
04:32 jojoa1997|Tablet __0gb_uss  is a veery goood ccaniidatte
04:32 Menche jojoa changed to _0gb_us, so i changed to jojoa1997
04:33 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu I already lost one of my cool aliases too.
04:33 jojoa1997|Arch because taking jojoa's name seems to be the cool thing to do now
04:33 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu It takes me forever to come up with good ones, too.
04:34 Jojoa1997|Arch__ didn't quite line up with the others
04:34 mauvebic sweet found a U48 mesh
04:34 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Yes, all the cool people are named [jJ]ojoa1997]\|.*
04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Oops, malformed expression.
04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu But you get the point.
04:35 Jojoa1997|Arch__ you can still tell the original jojoa apart because the imposters use an uppercase J
04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Nice.
04:36 AsexyTunnelBuild Too long.
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04:36 * Jojoa1997|SuSE joins the party
04:36 Jojoa1997|Arch__ oh dear
04:37 khonkhortisan ow_it
04:37 * Jojoa1997|Asexua is asexy, not sexy
04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ you bud like an amoeba?
04:38 imsexyandiknowit lol it is registered
04:38 Jojoa1997|SuSE how many Jojoas are we up to?
04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ i think 4
04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ if a bunch didn't change their names back  :(
04:38 Jojoa1997|Asexua No, I don't bud. Human asexuality is a sexual orientation, not a method of reproduction.
04:38 Jojoa1997|SuSE transforming back to me…
04:39 khonkhortisan transformation complete.
04:39 jojoa1997|Tablet i am so awesome
04:39 jojoa1997 I'm the real jojoa1997. Oh wait, no I'm not.
04:39 khonkhortisan I'm the fake jojoa1997. No, really!
04:40 jojoa1997 WHO IS REAL, AND WHO IS AN IMPOSTER?
04:40 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i ghost someone from  my name
04:40 Menche am I the real Menche?
04:40 mauvebic youre all facsimiles as far as im concerned
04:40 VanessaE well at least I know I'm real.
04:40 Menche /msg NickServ ghost <nick> [password]
04:41 VanessaE will the real jojoa1997 please stand up?
04:41 khonkhortisan I just saw all the similar names and jumped in without reading who started it
04:41 jojoa1997-Tablet Can't ghost me now.
04:41 * khonkhortisan sits down
04:41 * jojoa1997-Tablet sits down as well
04:41 * Menche assumes that jojoa1997-Tablet isn't the real jojoa
04:41 * jojoa1997-Tablet is not the real jojoa
04:41 jojoa1997|Tablet well i know i am the real me cause i can ghost others
04:41 khonkhortisan the channel logs will tell you the real ip
04:42 * Menche thinks about registering all the jojoa1997* spinoffs
04:42 khonkhortisan I call |SuSE
04:42 jojoa1997-Tablet I call *_0gb_us
04:42 jojoa1997|Tablet how do you add names to account
04:43 Menche [jojoa1997-Tablet] (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net): Something other than Nick
04:43 Menche busted.
04:43 jojoa1997-Tablet and *|0gb|us
04:43 jojoa1997|Tablet how do you add names to account
04:43 jojoa1997-Tablet No idea.
04:44 Menche you know how to get the help for nickserv?
04:44 Menche /msg NickServ help
04:44 khonkhortisan I haven't even gotten a cloak yet
04:44 Menche /msg NickServ help register, etc
04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet Yeah, me neither.
04:44 khonkhortisan -just have to ask on #freenode, though
04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet If I can't get it myself, I don't really wan one. I hate to beg favors.
04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet *want
04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet _________
04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet __________
04:45 ________________ This name is TAKEN!?
04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet ________________________
04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet ____________
04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet cant get size right
04:46 Menche just put more than will fit, it will get chopped down to the max size
04:46 |||||||||||||||| Also taken?
04:47 Nameless Taken .....
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04:47 Menche lol
04:47 NakedFury just use jojoa97
04:48 * Menche has to do a /whois before believing anyone's username
04:49 Neku Taken? Aw. I wanted this name.
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04:51 Menche http://rinkworks.com/namegen
04:52 Menche and so irc suddenly goes silent...
04:52 jojoa1997|Tablet http://rinkworks.com/namegen/fnames.cgi?d=1&amp;f=%3Ci%7Cs%3Ev%28mon%7Cchu%7Czard%7Crtle%29
04:53 stephan5 that's pretty cool
04:54 NoiseErased Hmm. I know a cool abandoned name.
04:54 Menche and the one who looked up the name generator is the real jojoa
04:54 jojoa1997|Tablet familiar
04:54 Adarqet Naw, it's a great name, but doesn't fit me.
04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no
04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i am the real one
04:55 NakedFury updated my sketchup
04:55 Menche i know
04:55 * Adarqet 's cat is sitting on his foot
04:55 Menche [jojoa1997|Tablet] (~jojoa1997@user-0c6s5d2.cable.mindspring.com): jojoa1997
04:55 Menche /whois is awesome
04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet /who is awesome
04:55 * jojoa1997|Tablet is
04:56 khonkhortisan (someone uses cingular)
04:56 Adarqet Wow, jojoa. Wow.
04:56 * Menche is on cell data
04:56 * Adarqet has no cell
04:56 jojoa1997|Tablet grrrr
04:56 Adarqet Hmm?
04:56 Adarqet What's wrong?
04:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant remember who ardrqet was cause i dont have a face to match
04:57 NakedFury if I made the cart mesh, would I also need 2 meshes for empty and with items?
04:57 khonkhortisan Adarqet, comcast buddies!
04:57 Adarqet Adarqet is the guy who is now Lykos.
04:58 Adarqet I always forget the name of the place he lives, too ....
04:58 Adarqet He's Boris's cousin, I think.
04:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean server wise
04:58 Adarqet I know, me too.
04:58 Adarqet He and Boris built Frontier Town.
04:59 jojoa1997|Tablet that is what it was
04:59 LightYagami Aw. Taken.
04:59 jojoa1997|Tablet who is hummer313 omn youtube
05:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i know he is here
05:00 Menche that's jordan4ibanez
05:00 DarkYagami Okay, at least this name isn't taken.
05:01 * Menche is going to bed now
05:01 DarkYagami Good night.
05:01 * Menche has had enought of the nickname madness :P
05:01 Menche night.
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05:03 arsdragonfly why not Oxffffffff+1gb.us :P
05:04 DiggerOfGraves That's not a valid domain. There's no reason for it to be a permutation of 0gb.us, unless done right.
05:05 DiggerOfGraves People keep suggesting names similar to 0gb.us, but why does it NEED to be similar to 0gb.us? That's all I'm saying.
05:05 NakedFury invent some name from things you like
05:06 NakedFury mine= im always gaming and using pc naked(or underwear) and fury because I like the hulk
05:06 NakedFury simple
05:06 Minetest When no one is home, I'm usually nude too.
05:07 NakedFury ok but you cant copy my naked part of the nick now
05:07 NakedFury its copyrighted and trademarked
05:07 NoNick I'm not trying to.
05:07 khonkhortisan eew when minetest.env:get_node(pos) is placed into a table, param2 can be modified in the table when passed by itself to a function, instead of the function's copy being modified. What am I missing?
05:07 NoNick Okay, no worries.
05:07 jojoa1997|Tablet NakedButt
05:07 NoNick Sorry, not sure.
05:08 NickReserved Ironically, this nick is NOT reserved.
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05:13 khonkhortisan hi jojoa
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05:13 khonkhortisan Hi Notch_|Tablet
05:13 mauvebic poop, does blender import sketchup files? found the RMS Queen Mary
05:14 NakedFury dont know but from blender to sketchup I think a plugin will do
05:14 khonkhortisan Try Collada
05:14 VanessaE RMS Queen Mary?  Stallman is a drag queen? ;)
05:14 mauvebic ahh yes there is a collada version of it
05:14 mauvebic thanks :-)
05:14 NakedFury this accepts 3ds format
05:14 jojoa1997|Tablet going to bed cya
05:14 NakedFury yeah and collada
05:15 khonkhortisan googled blender import sketchup -> http://www.katsbits.com/tutorials/blender/import-google-sketchup-kmz-models.php
05:15 mauvebic i can import 3ds's, though they usually have a few tiny mistake
05:15 Node Good night.
05:15 jojoa1997|Tablet night
05:15 mauvebic khonkhortisan that a plugin for blender?
05:16 mauvebic it be tutorial, wonder if i can install sketchup in wine
05:16 mauvebic id hate to have to use the virtualbox
05:17 NakedFury if you do I can give you codes for the pro version
05:17 NakedFury or the torrentz link
05:17 mauvebic plain doesn't export?
05:17 mauvebic hmm at least win7 vdi is intact
05:18 mauvebic been so long lol
05:19 mauvebic though google warehouse seems to have the models in collada format, from what i gather i can import those directly into blender
05:19 mauvebic gonna need to build a big port lol
05:21 mauvebic Wow 100$ for a low poly mesh, what planet lol
05:23 khonkhortisan Those aren't some automatically merged polies, those were hand-crafted!
05:23 mauvebic found one called "Lustinia" (sp Lusitania) which is an exact copy of the titanic mesh i have lol
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05:43 khonkhortisan sign (which is a boolean) = negative (also a bool) What happens? I got the poles reversed.
05:43 mauvebic hmm, don't quite understand, code ex?
05:44 khonkhortisan ok
05:45 khonkhortisan http://pastebin.com/KVBVASja
05:46 khonkhortisan lines 232, 264, 462
05:47 mauvebic crap was looking at getface lol scrolling to right place
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05:48 mauvebic ah ok was looking in right place
05:49 mauvebic where is negative declared?
05:49 khonkhortisan I turn a face either clockwise or counterclockwise, then if the face I'm turning is on the negative side of the axis, I swap the rotation direction. I added another variable there to say whether it was on the negative side.
05:49 khonkhortisan 232/234
05:50 mauvebic doesnt seem to be local to the if statement
05:50 mauvebic but getface isn't working?
05:50 khonkhortisan It turned out to not be local, I don't know how, but anyway I got it backwards.
05:51 khonkhortisan "negative" says whether it's -axis, sign says whether it's +axis, and I set one to the other.
05:51 khonkhortisan I turn the green face, it says blue.
05:51 mauvebic this is with the 6d facedir?
05:51 mauvebic i wonder if RealBadAngel is around
05:52 mauvebic i have yet to tacke 6d for pipes lol (not sure i look forward lol)
05:52 VanessaE pipes will be a bitch to rewrite for 6d.
05:52 mauvebic seriously lol
05:53 mauvebic writing all the rules for them anyways
05:53 mauvebic connecting sides for each param2 lol
05:53 mauvebic gradual would be better, start with the standard facedirs, and move on to support all of them
05:54 bas0801 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5467
05:54 mauvebic i cant find anything wrong with the rubiks code though, RBA might be able to figure out :/
05:54 bas0801 Finished something that works but still needs some tweaking
05:55 bas0801 Clearer formspecs
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05:55 khonkhortisan Expect there to be facedir helper functions eventually. They'll pretty much be reqired.
05:58 mauvebic something that relates each face with param2 from default to its current val lol
05:59 khonkhortisan I have one function that rotates on axis, and another function that gives the equivalent of node.tiles for the rotated node.
05:59 mauvebic i *had* one that works for the 4d param2s
05:59 mauvebic *not 4d, standard i meant
05:59 khonkhortisan 4d, wow!
06:00 mauvebic 4 directions lol
06:00 khonkhortisan Actually, shadows are broken now
06:00 khonkhortisan They are put on the texture before rotation
06:00 mauvebic you mean the bright and dark spots?
06:00 khonkhortisan no, the graded shading on a face
06:01 khonkhortisan I have a 3x3 platform in the air, rotate it 180° Y, and the shadows on the bottom are pointing outward, instead of toward the center
06:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's a known bug.
06:03 khonkhortisan Is it older than 6d facedir?
06:04 mauvebic maybe the lighting/shadow system just hasn't been updated to match 6d
06:04 khonkhortisan But it messes up with regular Y rotation
06:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, it started with 6d I think
06:05 khonkhortisan I think it's just doing lighting before turning, when it should be done in the other order.
06:05 khonkhortisan Like it's actually writing to the texture or something like that.
06:05 mauvebic well theres a few things off with lighting lately
06:06 khonkhortisan I saw a picture of black spots
06:06 mauvebic nodeboxes, random dark/brightspots
06:06 mauvebic im all for supporting old hardware, but if theres a better way... :-)
06:08 khonkhortisan uhh, git push added an rsa host key for an ip address
06:09 mauvebic perhaps have legacy lighting and modern lighting
06:09 khonkhortisan then destroy legacy lighting when no one's looking
06:10 mauvebic lol
06:10 mauvebic well look at this way: i got one of the lowest ram counts here, and im not complaining :p
06:11 mauvebic i waste much more resources trying to fix shadows the traditionally hackish way
06:22 VanessaE off to bed
06:22 VanessaE (I hope)..  night all
06:23 mauvebic good night, and good luck :P
06:23 mauvebic (not a bad movie either)
06:27 * khonkhortisan makes a rubiks cube, then forgets how to solve it
06:28 mauvebic lol add a cheat mode :p
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06:46 khonkhortisan I'm working on it knowing when it's solved
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07:00 mauvebic a fine looking Lusitania: http://ompldr.org/vaTA3eQ/screenshot_3726776841.png
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08:09 Matsetes Hi!
08:09 Matsetes I'm trying the 0.4.6...
08:10 Matsetes How can I add dungeons and jungles?
08:18 Node Hold on, I'll get the setting for that.
08:19 Node Okay. First, open up minetest.conf. Then add this line.
08:19 Node mg_flags = trees, caves, v6_biome_blend, v6_jungles, dungeons
08:19 Node After that, start a new world, and it will have dungeons and jungles.
08:20 arsdragonfly do dungeons have hostile mobs inside?
08:20 Node No, not yet.
08:22 Matsetes Thank you very much. I will try
08:22 Node Yeah, no problem.
08:22 Matsetes ANd the floating island are already in?
08:23 Node To add the floating isles, you need to add somthing else before you start a new world.
08:23 Node I'll go look up what that is.
08:23 Node mg_name = indev
08:24 Node Add that, then start the world, and there should be floating isles.
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08:27 markveidemanis Who wants to participate in my The Walls game?
08:27 Node It sounds interesting, but I'm not really into PvP action. I mostly just build and dig.
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08:34 Matsetes Thanks
08:34 Matsetes markveidemanis: Me =)
08:34 markveidemanis Ok, it'll be up today i think
08:34 markveidemanis Not now though
08:35 markveidemanis FreeFull and TheLastProject were already on
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08:35 markveidemanis Zeg, wanna do TheWalls?
08:35 Zeg9 Nop, sorry. Hi everyone
08:36 Node Hey, Zeg9.
08:36 Matsetes markveidemanis: Today?
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08:44 Matsetes Hi Zeg9
08:44 Matsetes Where can be found dungeons?
08:44 Node Underground, mostly.
08:44 Matsetes How far?
08:45 Node Anywhere.
08:45 Node On the surface or down below.
08:49 Matsetes =( I cannot find any dungeon...
08:49 Node It took me a while to find one too.
08:49 Node Did you make sure to look in a world started after you added the settings? It won't work in old worlds.
08:52 Matsetes Yes
08:52 Matsetes Now I found one
08:52 Node Okay, good.
08:52 Matsetes They're quite little
08:52 IceCraft Good morning
08:52 Node They're bigger than they used to be.
08:53 Node Good morning.
08:55 Matsetes In wich version they were already on?
08:55 Node 0.3.1
09:00 Matsetes Ah, I have started using it later...
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09:48 arsdragonfly I've just set up a server
09:48 arsdragonfly who'd like to try it out ?
09:48 arsdragonfly arsenalmp.no-ip.org
09:48 arsdragonfly idk if all the settings are correct
09:48 Jordach !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org
09:48 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.545ms)
09:48 Jordach MinetestBot, thanks
09:49 arsdragonfly cool
09:49 Jordach arsdragonfly, MinetestBot with the command !up followed by a space then a server address will check whether its up or not
09:49 Jordach so
09:50 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
09:50 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.299ms)
09:50 Jordach is valid
09:50 Jordach but it always checks 30000
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09:50 Jordach so:
09:50 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 31111
09:50 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:31111 seems to be down
09:50 Jordach any number after the address will go for a specific port
09:51 arsdragonfly cool stuff
09:51 arsdragonfly What are all the features of this bot?
09:52 sfan5 http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/7015550_460s.jpg
09:55 kaeza sfan5, lol
09:56 kaeza hi all
09:56 * Jordach slaps sfan5 for using 9gag
09:56 sfan5 :(
09:57 Jordach naughty!
09:57 Jordach no, still, 9gag is fine, except the OC Stealing
09:57 Jordach bbiab
10:00 celeron55 9gag = OC stealing
10:02 Node What is "OC"?
10:02 * sfan5 wanted to ask the same
10:02 ImQ009 overclocking
10:02 kaeza original content
10:02 ImQ009 :P
10:02 Node !up localhost.
10:02 MinetestBot localhost.:30000 seems to be down
10:04 Jordach celeron55, high five
10:04 Jordach highest amount of religion in whats your religion: minetesting
10:04 Jordach 3 counts (minetestology == minetesting)
10:05 Node Wow. Talk about obsession with the game. I thought I was bad, but at least I'm not part of a religion devoted to the game.
10:05 ImQ009 test just gotta test
10:05 ImQ009 test test
10:07 Jordach Node, i started it as a small joke
10:07 Node I take it you are one of the tree?
10:07 Node *three
10:08 Jordach yup, first to post
10:09 Node I saw the topic, but decided to avoid it. The same with another topic I saw recently.
10:11 Node People get so touchy about religion, I figured I'd play it safe.  â˜º
10:14 Node Oh, hey. I found the Communistcraft symbol in my character map: ☭
10:14 Jordach Node, awesome
10:15 Node Also, a very bent arrow: ☈
10:15 Jordach Node, like most police officers!
10:15 Node Apperently it means "thunderstorm".
10:17 Node Marriage, divorce, unmarried partnership: ⚭⚮⚯
10:17 Node Why do these things have their own symbols?
10:18 Node And there's about 50 Unicode arrows .....
10:19 Node No, make that at least a couple hundred.
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10:20 Node Who even uses these things⸮
10:20 * Node needs to quit playing with the character map
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10:44 kaeza arsdragonfly, you here?
10:44 kaeza had any luck translating?
10:45 arsdragonfly kaeza,I've been doing my homework all day:(
10:45 kaeza ah sorry :P
10:46 arsdragonfly going back to school soon since I'm a boarder :(
10:54 sfan5 !rev esrever
10:54 MinetestBot reverse
11:02 sfan5 !seen Jeija
11:02 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
11:02 sfan5 !seen kaeza
11:02 MinetestBot sfan5: kaeza was last seen at 2013-04-06 10:45:39 UTC on #minetest
11:03 kaeza :D
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11:25 sfan5 !help
11:25 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
11:26 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
11:26 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-04-06 11:26:44)
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11:55 artur99 hi
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11:59 markveidemanis artur99, wanna play TheWalls?
12:05 artur99 whats that?
12:07 markveidemanis This is a game where you start off in 1 of 4 sectors with a team, you have 15 minutes to build an awesome fort, once the timer ends, the walls are dropped and its an awesome team based battle
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12:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Morning everyone
12:11 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE you there?
12:11 kaeza mornings
12:13 kaeza trying to compile MT with 128 MB of RAM >.<
12:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol
12:13 kaeza this thing takes forever
12:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza trying to code mobs with 3 hours of sleep
12:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Last night it took me  an hour to code 60 lines
12:15 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, make some mob that is between a vombie and a DM in difficulty, strength, etc
12:15 jojoa1997|Tablet It is the skeleton
12:15 kaeza vombies are too easy to kill, and DMs are practically impossible to beat
12:15 Exio the cpu does the hard job
12:15 Exio intel atom 1gb ram - 30~ minutes
12:16 jojoa1997|Tablet oonl;y minecraft mobs
12:16 kaeza Exio, not if you have 128 MB where GCC must swap to/from disk
12:16 Exio x6 6100 ("slow and cheap" cpu) 4gb ram - 1~ minute
12:16 kaeza it's using around 160MB now
12:16 markveidemanis How do i get someone on a server to have no nameplate?
12:16 Exio kaeza: what distro?
12:16 kaeza debian 6
12:17 Exio i had *that* problem with <64mb of ram, for compiling with one thread 128 was k for me
12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet skeleton zombie cow and sheep are what i want to add before releaseing another minitest
12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet also i have to fix bonemeal bug
12:17 Exio and what cpu kaeza? :P
12:17 kaeza no idea :P
12:17 kaeza It's a VPS
12:18 celeron55 modern compilers assume there is huge amounts of memory available
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12:19 jojoa1997|Tablet celeron55 do you play minetest anymore. someone said you moved on to other projects.
12:19 celeron55 jojoa1997|Tablet: i haven't played minetest except for testing purposes since almost 2 years ago
12:20 celeron55 well, a tiny bit; but not really
12:20 jojoa1997|Tablet i thought so
12:21 Exio i'd say most of the core-devs don't play MT "as much" as the players do
12:21 celeron55 Exio: most definitely
12:21 celeron55 some people find developing more interesting than playing and those end up developing rather than playing
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12:22 Deivan I have a strong spaw of messages like "ACTION[ServerThread]: LuaEntitySAO at (-15.8,-4,41.7031) punched by LuaEntitySAO at (-15.8,-4,41.7031), damage 0 hp, health now 10 hp" in my terminal. :-o
12:22 kaeza Exio, apparently it's an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
12:22 Deivan Is a MOB bug?
12:23 Exio kaeza: seems legit, but as it is a VPS i understand :P
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12:23 jojoa1997_Tablet hate it when internet goes
12:23 Exio and yes, there is a bottleneck, if you were using a 2003 CPU with 128 mb ram, .. but with that :P
12:23 Exio jojoa1997_Tablet: eat it
12:24 kaeza Deivan, seems so
12:24 jojoa1997_Tablet Exio eat what?
12:25 kaeza (not a bug, but an engine thing)
12:25 kaeza ....hrm
12:25 jojoa1997_Tablet celeron55 i used to play minetest all the time now i mostly code mods
12:25 kaeza nevermind looks like a but with MOBs
12:25 kaeza bug*
12:25 Deivan Well...  I have many imortal mobs runing here  :-/
12:25 Exio jojoa1997_Tablet: mods != core
12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet your right devs are the ones who stop playing but always know what is adde
12:26 kaeza Exio, 424.049 MHz
12:26 kaeza >.<
12:26 Exio kaeza: lol
12:26 Exio i should try to compile in my phone...
12:26 Deivan :-o
12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet i know/nick jojoa1997|Tablet
12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet can someone type my nick in all lower case
12:26 Exio kaeza: 600 mhz / armv6 - 192 mb ram
12:27 jojoa1997_Tablet i want to test name highlight
12:27 Exio (all in use because android)
12:27 Zeg9 JOJOA1997_TABLET
12:27 kaeza hey Zeg
12:27 sfan5 thats not lower case
12:27 Zeg9 Hi.
12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet it works
12:28 Zeg9 I know it isn't lower case. Wanted to know how he would react, but no reaction about this...
12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet yes reaction
12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet you name got green
12:29 * jojoa1997|Tablet sighs
12:30 jojoa1997|Tablet nothing like good old walmart french bread to start the day
12:30 jojoa1997|Tablet that and red baron microwzavable pizza
12:31 jojoa1997|Tablet with BACON AND EGGS
12:31 jojoa1997|Tablet what are all of your favorite foods/meals time foods
12:33 kaeza my breakfast was a good Phillip Morris
12:33 jojoa1997|Tablet what is that
12:33 jojoa1997|Tablet not familiar with it
12:33 kaeza you don't need to know
12:33 kaeza maybe when you're older
12:33 kaeza ...or just GIYF :D
12:34 jojoa1997|Tablet baron pizza on the box hate it when internet goes
12:34 jojoa1997|Tablet baron pizza on the box https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTosg0NnRlVvSYW6RCqSFm05vqokEeIZ4p3ZrcKWLKwyRmA9WqR
12:35 jojoa1997|Tablet in real life https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGPaMq6znNTtB32aJjoaigl347_l6zPpdK4f7_GKh179dRGjgm
12:35 jojoa1997|Tablet both super good
12:36 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone interested in doing a mod like the tinas map
12:36 jojoa1997|Tablet except for food items
12:36 Exio kaeza: he is too young for those things (?)
12:37 RealBadAngel hi all
12:37 Exio hey RBA
12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet is tobbacco legal in brazil(where kaeza is)
12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm it is legal here
12:38 kaeza wut
12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet io looked up phillup morris and that was what i got it is tobacco
12:39 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, Uruguay, not Brazil
12:39 Exio wtf
12:39 Exio brazil
12:39 kaeza Exio, brasil en ingles :)
12:39 kaeza err... Brasil
12:39 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry confused with another person
12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet thought they were urugay
12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet thought they were uruguay
12:40 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, and Mexico is part of the US. sure
12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet it is
12:40 Exio kaeza: ik, but wtf, since when people uses "spanish" in brazil :P
12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet we own an ich of their land
12:41 jojoa1997|Tablet lol i meant inch
12:41 Exio what is an inch?
12:41 kaeza pulgada
12:41 Exio kaeza: i mean, what is an inch in a less insane system?
12:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 2.54 cm
12:42 sfan5 !c 1 inch in cm
12:42 MinetestBot 2.54 centimeters
12:42 jojoa1997|Tablet us is stupid for being the only country that does not use M
12:42 sfan5 ! 1 mile in m
12:42 sfan5 woops
12:42 sfan5 !c 1 mile in m
12:42 MinetestBot 1 609.344 meters
12:42 Exio i know, i'm trolling all the people who uses that stupid and insane system
12:43 * kaeza highfives jojoa1997|Tablet for that comment
12:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 1 mile in in
12:43 MinetestBot 63 360 inches
12:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 1 mile in ft
12:43 MinetestBot 5280 feet
12:43 kaeza !c 1 in in in
12:43 MinetestBot 1 inch
12:44 kaeza !c 1 px in mile
12:44 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet US USE THE METRIC SYSTEM. ONE CM = ONE HUNDRED MM. !!!BRILIANT!!!
12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet idiot i spell brilliant wrong
12:44 kaeza 1cm == 100mm?? WTF??
12:44 celeron55 :D
12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet iu think
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12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet 10 mm
12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet hi rarkenmin
12:45 sfan5 !c 1 feet in m
12:45 MinetestBot 0.3048 meters
12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet koin
12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
12:45 sfan5 !c 1 mile in feet
12:45 MinetestBot 5280 feet
12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet !c idoits in America
12:45 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet oh yeah
12:46 kaeza <MinetestBot> 1: jojoa1997|Tablet :D
12:46 MinetestBot kaeza: wut?
12:46 kaeza dafuq
12:46 jojoa1997|Tablet loo it knows your are wronmg
12:47 jojoa1997|Tablet !c nuerons in keaza's brain
12:47 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:47 sfan5 !c 1 px in cm
12:47 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:48 sfan5 !c 1 px in in
12:48 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:48 sfan5 !c 1 pixel in cm
12:48 MinetestBot ...
12:48 Jordach !c 1 penis in cm
12:48 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:48 Jordach :P
12:48 sfan5 :D
12:48 jojoa1997|Tablet way to make it dirty
12:48 Exio sfan5: ? pixel in cm? wat
12:48 kaeza lol
12:48 Exio that depends of dpi (afaik)
12:48 sfan5 !c 1 dpi in cm
12:48 MinetestBot ...
12:48 Exio and would end on mm^2
12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet <+MinetestBot> yes
12:49 MinetestBot jojoa1997|Tablet: wut?
12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet !c is minetest better than minecraft
12:49 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
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12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet !c is minecraft better than minetest
12:49 MinetestBot ...
12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet <+MinetestBot> yes
12:49 kaeza !g sdzen
12:49 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.sdzen.com/
12:50 sfan5 !g stderr
12:50 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdio/stderr/
12:50 sfan5 !help
12:50 Exio aand this got spammy
12:50 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
12:50 kaeza !rm -fr /*
12:50 kaeza :D
12:51 jojoa1997|Tablet !hex tootles
12:51 MinetestBot 746f6f746c6573
12:52 sfan5 !b16e tootles
12:52 MinetestBot 746F6F746C6573
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12:52 Zeg9 Hi again...
12:52 sfan5 hi
12:52 jojoa1997|Tablet !b 10e tootles
12:53 Zeg9 Any good mod for crafting dyes (but from something logical, like flowers)
12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Hi all!
12:53 sdzen we like to think of ourselves as better
12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet yes unified dyes
12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet !b 4e tootles
12:53 Taoki Hi. When creating an item in a Lua mod, is it possible to make that item not appear in the Creative inventory?
12:54 Taoki Like a flag for that sort of thing
12:54 jojoa1997|Tablet YES
12:54 sdzen not_in_creative_inventory?
12:54 sdzen I tihnk
12:54 kaeza in groups
12:54 jojoa1997|Tablet not_in_creative_inventory = 1
12:54 kaeza groups={not_in_creative_inventory=1}
12:54 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: wtf?! are you doing?
12:55 Taoki thanks
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12:57 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81914#p81914
12:57 Zeg9 Unified dyes looks a bit huge imo...
12:59 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org
12:59 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.218ms)
12:59 kaeza wot
12:59 jojoa1997|Tablet !down kaeza.no-ip.org
13:00 GhostlyDeath If you change a mod
13:00 GhostlyDeath Do you need to destroy and create a new world?
13:00 sfan5 !tw @jordansnelling
13:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
13:00 sfan5 !tw jordansnelling
13:00 MinetestBot @OboAllTogether Thank fuck for that, I dont often see people like that! :D (@jordansnelling)
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13:06 jojoa1997|Tablet ?>.<?
13:06 jojoa1997|Tablet gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:07 jojoa1997|Tablet alarm is going off anda too lazy to get up
13:07 rarkenin Morning all!
13:07 * jojoa1997|Tablet going insain
13:07 jojoa1997|Tablet hi
13:07 rarkenin And ou complain in IRC?
13:07 jojoa1997|Tablet who is ou
13:07 rarkenin *youSorry, I still can't do your client. One of my RAM sticks died
13:07 Exio kaeza: no-ip? :(
13:07 rarkenin and I still feel like I can't breathe.
13:07 Exio y u no use freedns
13:08 kaeza Exio, http://kaeza.mooo.com
13:08 * jojoa1997|Tablet kills rarkenin and then gives rarkenin a revive potion
13:09 * rarkenin prefers not to take medication unless absolutely necessary
13:09 * jojoa1997|Tablet gotta catch em all . . . pokemon
13:09 * rarkenin will probably be fine after a few days... or months...
13:09 jojoa1997|Tablet POOOOOOOOOOKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
13:10 sdzen add this to the flowers init.lua http://pastebin.com/stLTBfrq
13:10 sdzen to make wool from cotton
13:11 kaeza GhostlyDeath, depends
13:11 kaeza what is the mod in question?
13:12 jojoa1997|Tablet i edded that to vanessae's flower mod
13:12 GhostlyDeath kaeza: My own
13:12 sdzen I just responded to Zeg9 :P
13:13 rarkenin Adding a mod should be more-or-less seamless. Removing one may leave you with onknown blocks, unknown entities, or broken formspecs.
13:13 kaeza GhostlyDeath, again, depends
13:14 kaeza what exactly are you changing? if it's just recipes or adding blocks there's no prob using an old worlds
13:14 kaeza -s
13:14 jojoa1997|Tablet how would i make a function get the group of an items
13:15 rarkenin Can't an item belong to multiple groups, therefore invalidating your question?
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13:16 Zeg9 Back.
13:16 rarkenin It's like "classify pigeon, please." It is vague enough that one could reply metazoa, eumetazoa, chordata, or birds.
13:16 Zeg9 sfan5: I am actually looking for dyes. I have wool from farming already
13:16 Zeg9 Thanks anyway
13:17 jojoa1997|Tablet i am making a groupd called {grow=1}
13:17 Zeg9 rarkenin, I added your textures to exchange mod (you made them a while ago), is it ok to release them under WTFPL?
13:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:17 sfan5 Zeg9: i think sdzen may be more interested in your message
13:17 Zeg9 Hi PilzAdam
13:17 sfan5 hi PilzAdam
13:17 jojoa1997|Tablet those that have it will grow when bonemeal is used on them
13:17 jojoa1997|Tablet how would i make a function get the group of an items
13:17 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam could you help
13:17 * Zeg9 just read the first letter of the name
13:17 jojoa1997|Tablet and also i got mobs going
13:18 Zeg9 sdzen:  I am actually looking for dyes. I have wool from farming already
13:18 Zeg9 <Zeg9> Thanks anyway
13:18 rarkenin Zeg9: They are licensed under Creative Commons Zero. It is pretty close to WTFPL, just has a nicer name.
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13:19 Zeg9 ok. Then I'll add this to the readme
13:19 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, like this? http://pastebin.com/26sidLdB
13:20 jojoa1997|Tablet kinda
13:20 jojoa1997|Tablet i decided i had to manually enter it since trees wiol grow different from papy
13:22 kaeza PilzAdam, any comments on my pull request?
13:22 PilzAdam wich one is it?
13:23 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/604
13:23 PilzAdam dunno
13:23 PilzAdam Im have not many experiece with cmake
13:23 PilzAdam -m
13:24 kaeza I have tested and works as expected
13:24 kaeza I made it because I build both run in place and non run in place version
13:24 kaeza using the same source tree
13:25 kaeza Zeg9 seems to like that one, and I think other people may find that useful
13:26 Exio +1 kaeza
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13:27 Exio i use a separate build directory
13:27 jojoa1997|Tablet who knows how cactus works in minecraft
13:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i do but needs hep with code
13:28 Exio i know, what is the problem?
13:28 jojoa1997|Tablet http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cactus
13:29 Exio so...
13:29 jojoa1997|Tablet i need to figure out how to get cactus to only place on sand andnot be able to be placed next to eachother
13:29 Exio on_place, and play with the coords, .
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13:29 Exio , and so.
13:29 Exio *
13:30 rarkenin I'll be back soon. If anyone needs me, just ping me.
13:31 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
13:31 jojoa1997|Tablet also snapshot skeletons are made and bonemeal workiong
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13:45 * Jordach pokes PilzAdam with BF4
13:45 PilzAdam I
13:45 PilzAdam WANT
13:45 PilzAdam THAT
13:45 PilzAdam NOW!
13:46 Jordach PilzAdam, go to your dashboard, and look for the AD
13:46 Jordach EPIC TRAILER.
13:46 Kacey !up kaeza.no=ip.org
13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no=ip.org:30000 seems to be down
13:46 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org
13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.267ms)
13:46 Jordach !up kaeza.no-ip.org
13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.150ms)
13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
13:49 Kacey PilzAdam, is it true that you made a way to switch between creative and survival in-game?
13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet no
13:49 PilzAdam no
13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry thought it was me
13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet well i did
13:50 Kacey there should be
13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet it is only for minitest though but can be edited for regular
13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam wait till you see the new inventory
13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet i think you should add some of it to default
13:51 Kacey kaeza, you around?
13:51 kaeza yep
13:51 jojoa1997|Tablet help
13:51 Kacey alright
13:52 Kacey i am trying to connect to your server
13:52 PilzAdam kaeza, you were working on the translation on mods, right?
13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i have a funstion
13:52 kaeza ah it's not finixhed yet
13:52 kaeza I'm finding some useful mods to put in
13:53 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org
13:53 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.762ms)
13:53 Kacey jeez 1 second
13:53 jojoa1997|Tablet http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682886/
13:54 kaeza PilzAdam, yes
13:54 kaeza more or less
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet i have changed the papyrus abm to be a function default.grow_reeds
13:54 Kacey really laggy
13:54 PilzAdam kaeza, do you have anything achieved yet?
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet well the function part of the abm
13:54 Kacey i don't even have build lol
13:55 kaeza PilzAdam, auto translation of node/utem names
13:55 kaeza item*
13:55 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone help me
13:55 kaeza I'm figuring how to tackle formspec translation
13:56 Jordach ugh, lucozade tastes like crap but gives a good energy boost
13:56 kaeza Kacey, maybe because of mesecons+technic
13:56 kaeza dunno
13:57 kaeza should I remove them?
13:57 sfan5 everybody seems to ignore the localization mod I made
13:57 sfan5 :(
13:57 Jordach sfan5, huh
13:57 PilzAdam sfan5, yes, because its server side
13:57 jojoa1997|Tablet i wouod use it but hav no use
13:57 sfan5 PilzAdam: you can easily port it to client side, by changing 1 line (in the best case)
13:57 kaeza same reason why mine got ignored at first
14:01 kaeza celeron55, can you link your branch that sends the strings to the client?
14:01 markveidemanis come see my mod: markmt.strangled.net
14:02 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
14:02 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.311ms)
14:03 Kacey come play with moretrees with me ^_^
14:06 markveidemanis Come see my step-by step house destroyer mod
14:06 markveidemanis come see my mod: markmt.strangled.net
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14:14 Exio hi hmmmm
14:14 Zeg9 !up markmt.strangled.net
14:14 MinetestBot markmt.strangled.net:30000 is up (0.464ms)
14:14 hmmmm i think that bot is wrong
14:15 hmmmm it always seems to return a value under 1ms
14:15 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org
14:15 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.701ms)
14:15 hmmmm probably the number is in seconds but the output is labeled as milliseconds
14:15 Kacey not always
14:15 Jordach hmmmm, nope
14:15 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk
14:15 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (1.399ms)
14:16 hmmmm minetestbot doesn't have some sort of magical internet connection where latencies are always that low
14:16 hmmmm it's off
14:17 hmmmm just FYI, to get a ping below 1ms, you pretty much have to be on the same LAN
14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet zeg nive
14:17 Zeg9 Hi
14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet ton the server
14:17 Zeg9 jojoa nineteen ninty seven
14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet on
14:17 PilzAdam hmmmm, MinetestBot hackes himself into all the LANs
14:17 PilzAdam *itself
14:18 Zeg9 Did someone report yet that waiting for content thing doesn't show "[ ] Node definitions" and others when freetype is enabled?
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14:18 PilzAdam new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
14:19 PilzAdam Zeg9, yes
14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet haha
14:19 PilzAdam although there is no issue on GitHub yet
14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet you are sent to jail zrg
14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet what is after math
14:20 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath
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14:20 PilzAdam "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath" :D
14:21 PilzAdam *"Aftermath, a 2012 DLC for Battlefield 3"
14:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean in relation to the build
14:22 PilzAdam the aftermath of the release
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14:25 rarkenin !up 0gb.us
14:25 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 seems to be down
14:25 rarkenin !up minetest.net 30015
14:25 MinetestBot minetest.net:30015 seems to be down
14:26 Exio 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.551 ms
14:27 Exio the response of my router
14:27 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet skeletons have been spawning but i forgot to
14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet change the name of the def
14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam for a weak monster like skletons what would be the best atack
14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet levels
14:28 Leoneof is there a way to play old version of minetest online
14:30 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, how much damage do they in MC?
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14:33 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
14:34 markveidemanis Who wants to BUILD on my server
14:34 kaeza Leoneof, err... what?
14:34 kaeza wrong channel
14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Skeleton
14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ^
14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet me
14:36 Leoneof kaeza: no, i've compiled/installed minetest from git, but i get segfault, i can only run old version
14:37 kaeza Leoneof, you need to find a 0.3.1 server
14:37 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i would say 2-4 hearts
14:40 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, read the setting "difficulty" from minetest.conf, default to "normal"
14:41 jojoa1997|Tablet we have setting difficulties in minetest?
14:41 PilzAdam no
14:41 PilzAdam but we will have in minitest
14:41 Kacey markveidemanis, i want to have all privs on your server
14:41 jojoa1997|Tablet uh
14:42 markveidemanis Why?
14:42 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant do that
14:42 Exio why not?
14:42 jojoa1997|Tablet same here
14:45 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5326327
14:45 PilzAdam do this for all the damage things
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14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam your api does not do this
14:49 Taoki What's the LUA function to get time of day / sun position? Hard to search for it in the API since it doesn't contain the words sun or daytime
14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet ttry time
14:49 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, what? what is "my API"?
14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet mobs
14:49 Taoki Just time? What is it part of, etc?
14:49 Taoki The function I mean
14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet you know simple mobs
14:50 jojoa1997|Tablet taoki idk
14:51 Taoki Oh, get_timeofday
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14:51 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, dont add mobs yet
14:54 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i added skeletons only
14:54 jojoa1997|Tablet for bones
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14:58 * Jordach thinks minitest should use default textures
14:58 jojoa1997|Tablet no
14:58 jojoa1997|Tablet it is meant to be minecraft for minetest
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14:58 Jordach PilzAdam, during 22/1/12 (i made the original gamemode)
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15:00 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach what was that
15:00 Jordach Minecraft 4 Minetest
15:00 Jordach when minetest didnt have game modes
15:01 PilzAdam Jordach, thats a texture pack
15:01 Jordach PilzAdam, go check out V1
15:01 Jordach and grab this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/0.4.dev-20120122-1
15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach we have made your way better
15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet from your v1
15:02 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, i recreated the basics with a modified moreores
15:02 Jordach and created the first incarnation of wool
15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet ok cool and now it is in minetest_game wioth no waY TO GET IT
15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet VERY USEFUL
15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet SORRY CAPS
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15:12 TheLastProject ARE YOU SO SORRY YOU HAD TO SAY YOU WERE SORRY IN CAPS?!?!
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15:22 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
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15:23 jojoa1997|Tablet who plays minecraft
15:24 jojoa1997|Tablet does anyone know where that textures for spawn eggs are?
15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam
15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam ping
15:25 PilzAdam pong
15:25 jin_xi hey all
15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet with armor it would be best touse minecrafts way of aking armor
15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean the texture
15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet the armor is all on one file\
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15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet that and a way to show what someone is holding is needd
15:27 PilzAdam just use ^ to overlay the textures could work
15:27 jojoa1997|Tablet start on the inventory when i release the next version
15:27 jojoa1997|Tablet it has changed
15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe add buttons to go to other views like inven+
15:28 PilzAdam no
15:28 PilzAdam make it 100% like MC
15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i did
15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet except i can make it 100% more like 75%
15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft has tabs that i cant code
15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet though i made it as much as minecraft as possible
15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet so the inventory mod isnt needed
15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet cause i merged it with another
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet i changed the other inven mod to inven
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15:31 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: the spawn egg textures are generated on runtime
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet do you know where i could get some?
15:32 sfan5 you can take them from texture pack, but 99% of the mc texture pack authors forbid using textures in any other way
15:33 Calinou (the 1% of the time: CC BY-NC-ND)
15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft people are idiots
15:36 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Add Dijkstra A* and A* without prefetching pathfind algorithms 69367aa799 2013-04-06T08:24:03-07:00 http://git.io/viMOqg
15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet they are so worried about their stuff getting stolen while stinting growth
15:37 Calinou suddenly: adfly
15:37 Calinou that thing GOT famous thanks to minecraft in 2011
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
15:37 Calinou prior to 2011 noone knew WTF adfly was
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet simple have your mod say made by <name>
15:37 * Jordach waves a BF4 Beta Key in PilzAdam's face
15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet like 20 times
15:38 * Calinou waves a TF3 beta key in Jordach's face
15:38 Calinou it will have a new class: "Semi-automatic pistol troll"
15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet found it
15:38 NakedFury jordach you enemy! giving in to your petty desires and supporting dice and ea in their shit demolition of a great series in the name of money and competition with call of duty
15:38 * PilzAdam waves a Minetest beta key in Calinou's face
15:39 * sfan5 waves air
15:39 * kaeza waves CONTENT_IGNORE
15:40 PilzAdam kaeza, ** Error: main: not allowed to wave CONTENT_IGNORE
15:40 * Calinou waves default:cloud
15:40 * NakedFury waves the middle finger at you all yelling trolls
15:40 * sfan5 waves default:wood
15:40 * Calinou waves a GTX 480
15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves /shutdown
15:40 Calinou you're all set on fire now
15:40 * PilzAdam waves a GTX 460
15:40 * sfan5 waves an Intel Core i5-2410
15:40 kaeza PilzAdam, :D
15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves jojoa1997
15:40 * Calinou waves 2×4GB of 3000mhz corsair RAM
15:40 * Calinou steals sfan5's pocket
15:41 NakedFury kill the waved jojoa!
15:41 * sfan5 has no pocket
15:41 * Calinou steals sfan5's underwear then
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves /jojoa1997 waves /jojoa1997 waves /jojoa1997 waves /...
15:41 sfan5 D:
15:41 Calinou you put your money there >:D
15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet steals Calinou's wallet
15:41 * sfan5 waves bucket:bucket_lava
15:42 * jojoa1997|Tablet steals sfan5's identity
15:42 sfan5 D:
15:42 kaeza * sfan5 wants to watch the world burn
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet ok real talk now
15:42 * Calinou waves a dark rock pro 2, throws it on kaeza
15:42 * PilzAdam watches meldiran finding mese
15:42 PilzAdam *meldrian
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet STOP
15:42 Jordach why do i start something and it grows infinitely
15:42 * Calinou watches freenode staff griefing a minetest server
15:42 Calinou Jordach: that's what she said
15:42 kaeza lol
15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items
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15:43 MinetestBot Minetest beta key: 74726F6C6C6F6C6C6F   ( tip: !b16d )
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items
15:43 PilzAdam !b16d 74726F6C6C6F6C6C6F
15:43 MinetestBot trollollo
15:43 * sfan5 wins
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items
15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet ANSWER ME
15:44 NakedFury ohh the banhammer is coming!
15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet was kicked by sfan5: IIRC, yes
15:44 PilzAdam 68747470733A2F2F7777772E796F75747562652E636F6D2F77617463683F763D6F486735534A5952484130
15:44 NakedFury boom it fell!
15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet joined #minetest
15:44 PilzAdam (!b16d)
15:44 NakedFury the lesser kickhammer
15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet please someone answer me
15:44 Calinou how can a tablet user spam
15:44 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: with separate textures, yes
15:44 Calinou with only one texture, no
15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet keyboard
15:45 jojoa1997|Tablet bluettooth
15:45 sfan5 !b16d 68747470733A2F2F7777772E796F75747562652E636F6D2F77617463683F763D6F486735534A5952484130
15:45 MinetestBot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
15:45 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet ^
15:45 Calinou wireless ftl
15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet not for mobile
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15:46 markveidemanis Hi
15:47 Calinou for mobile, of course, but for desktop, it is useless
15:47 Calinou fun fact: my mobo supports wifi, yet I didn't even put the wifi antenna
15:50 bas080 I am trying out civilization mod. Is anyone willing to test it with me? 31.151.189.3:30000
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15:51 NakedFury hey bas080:http://imgur.com/LlAnfTf
15:51 NakedFury thats how I would do the carts
15:51 bas080 NakedFUry Join!
15:51 NakedFury not sure yet how to bring them to the game with the animations
15:51 NakedFury ok then what version?
15:51 bas080 latest
15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet me
15:52 NakedFury ok downloading game. name will obviously be NakedFury
15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet im coming on
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet lol im going to kill my pc
15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest, minecraft, 3 gimps and an editor with 14 files open
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet all in a days work
15:54 khonkhortisan Use tab mode for gimp
15:54 NakedFury quite minecraft, the 3 gimps, and close the editor
15:54 NakedFury problem solved
15:54 bas080 never knew that tabmode existed!
15:54 khonkhortisan It's new
15:54 NakedFury bas080: waiting content...
15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet same
15:55 bas080 i just updated to the lastest common. That requires you to have the latest minetest version. Why is that?
15:56 bas080 This shouldn;t take this long?
15:56 NakedFury still waiting
15:56 bas080 restart?
15:56 bas080 restarting
15:56 NakedFury and I am using pilzadam's general forum 046 build
15:57 bas080 this should do it.
15:57 jojoa1997|Tablet can i have privs
15:57 bas080 Sorry for the confusion
15:57 bas080 yes
15:57 jojoa1997|Tablet fast and fly
15:58 bas080 fast
15:58 bas080 no fly
15:59 NakedFury waiting
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16:00 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
16:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i have minecraft and minetest open and am traveling oin both
16:01 VanessaE afternoon all.
16:01 * VanessaE looks at scrollback....  tl'dr
16:01 VanessaE ;
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16:02 VanessaE Calinou: fix yet busted-ass admin pick ;)
16:02 VanessaE yer*
16:03 jojoa1997|Tablet VAnessaE
16:03 VanessaE hm?
16:03 jojoa1997|Tablet around midnigjt i was soo famous i had 5 imposters
16:03 VanessaE I saw.
16:06 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: upper springs b633c5299d 2013-04-06T09:04:28-07:00 http://git.io/WhcpPA
16:07 jojoa1997|Tablet YES
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16:08 hylian i was wondering if there is a way to see a map of the current world. It's difficult to find my way back to "home"
16:08 khonkhortisan There are two or three ways to do that
16:08 khonkhortisan You can get a top-down view or orthographic
16:09 hylian khonkhortisan: i am looking for a top down view
16:10 khonkhortisan here's one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2747
16:10 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
16:10 VanessaE and this one.
16:11 VanessaE and there's one written in python that comes with the engine
16:11 mauvebic poop, were supposed to go visit mother, but she aint feeling well today :/
16:12 hylian thanks! I am very very new to minetest. I gotta say, so far I love it. I was a minecraft classic fan, but openjdk does not run classic (or minecraft in any form) at all, so.. (not a oracle fan)
16:12 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Don't flow finite liquid into an unloaded chunk 120f02e20b 2013-04-06T09:09:59-07:00 http://git.io/7pYnyA
16:13 hylian so is there a noob guide any of you would suggest?
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16:14 VanessaE better to just play the game and learn it a little at a time :-)
16:14 Calinou VanessaE: not dropping anything is a feature :P
16:14 Calinou usually when you have that pick you can use /give
16:14 VanessaE Calinou: not dropping anything makes the admin pick useless for regular mining :(
16:14 VanessaE trust me, it is incredibly handy to have it
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16:15 Calinou why would you want to use it for regular mining
16:15 Calinou it's overpowered
16:15 VanessaE mine a single block, then take that block into the inventory 'refill' slot
16:15 VanessaE use the result of that to build further
16:15 VanessaE that's how I use it most in fact
16:15 Calinou it fills your inventory with useless blocks
16:15 markveidemanis Kacey
16:15 markveidemanis Im done, come see
16:16 hylian I am looking for a "the basics" guide, so I can see what is different between minecraft and minetest... i'll just dig with ddg or google.
16:16 VanessaE Calinou: it's also really fast, which is a blessing when you're maintaining a server, if you get the items back.
16:16 VanessaE it takes two clicks to empty my inventory
16:16 VanessaE so useless blocks aren't an issue
16:16 VanessaE it's *redundant* blocks that are the problem
16:16 VanessaE getting 10 different shapes of mesecons wires for example
16:16 VanessaE when they all have the same drop that goes back to one wire
16:16 VanessaE same for many other things in use these days
16:16 hylian thanks all for the help!
16:18 jordan4ibanez shouldn't cactus and papyrus drop all the nodes above it when it's dug?
16:18 Menche i thought my server was getting lonely, then i got the server list announcing fixed
16:18 VanessaE Calinou: please.  put it back the way it was a while back, when it gave back what it cut and the drops worked right.
16:18 Menche now there's 12 players on
16:18 kaeza OMG! Jordach changed his avatar!
16:18 VanessaE kaeza: you just now noticed? :)
16:19 kaeza he looks pretty now <3
16:20 jordan4ibanez He does! (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhomo)
16:20 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, when comes the new "Simply Minetest" episode?
16:20 jordan4ibanez probably tomorrow because I'm going to be busy today
16:21 VanessaE what's wrong with someone looking pretty?
16:22 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81969#p81969 :3
16:23 khonkhortisan Pistons push me an offset, if I'm slightly off the center of a node, a piston can't push me off of it, just to the edge of it
16:27 Menche does anyone know how to reset/delete a poll block?
16:27 Menche the punbb wiki says that users can reset or delete it
16:27 Menche but i can not figure out how :P
16:28 VanessaE Menche: the forums are misconfigured slightly (or perhaps it was deliberate)
16:28 Menche sfan5 said that moderators can't edit but that users can
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16:28 VanessaE some moderators can delete polls, but not all
16:29 sfan5 wut?
16:29 sfan5 that makes no sense to me
16:29 jordan4ibanez Some moderators can delete polls, but not at all?
16:29 mauvebic silent edits can be annoying as hell :P for instance, it would have been nice to know why at least the link to the issue ticket i posted was removed :P
16:29 VanessaE sfan5: beats me why, but it's the truth
16:30 Menche the punbb wiki says that users should be able to
16:30 sfan5 seems like i'm one of the people which are not able to delete polls
16:31 jordan4ibanez Also: Why can't we use youtube videos? The thing even has a [video][/video] for the bb code
16:31 mauvebic i mean, if people are gonna go around changing other people's posts, they should have the balls to put their name to it at least, if not a reason :P
16:32 Menche would it be considered spam if I made a new topic for a poll releted to my server?
16:32 sfan5 Menche: maybe
16:32 Menche i know it should go on my server's topic, but it appears that the last poll is undeletable
16:32 sfan5 hm
16:33 sfan5 then it'd be okay i think
16:33 jordan4ibanez pilzadam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/97f0bb03423b6d2e22058166b677e568c53d7567 nodes are very indecisive no? :P
16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
16:33 PilzAdam heh
16:33 Menche if nodes really want to fall
16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i spawned 50 pigmen
16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet \hostile if you attack
16:34 jojoa1997|Tablet and had them chase me into a tnt trap
16:34 jojoa1997|Tablet tnt exploeds and i literally see raining gold
16:34 khonkhortisan =ring of conflict
16:34 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to be able to build from dir different than source dir 046534e14b 2013-04-06T09:31:12-07:00 http://git.io/Ir0R9w
16:34 sfan5 MinetestBot: who is this guy without a name?
16:35 Menche guy without a name?
16:35 kaeza hah
16:35 sfan5 GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Fix ....
16:35 * Menche thinks of last night's nickname-changing chaos
16:36 PilzAdam sfan5, the last ~7 commits or so were without a name
16:36 khonkhortisan GIT: rewrote client in java. Server is still in C++ for speed.
16:36 Menche oh
16:36 jojoa1997|Tablet i like minecraft fire
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16:36 sfan5 but this one is right: MinetestBot> GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Only enqueue falling nodes if they really want to fall 97f0bb0342 2013-04-05T13:33:11-07:00 http://git.io/x0gJfw
16:36 jojoa1997|Tablet it has single texture file but is set to move at different angles
16:36 sfan5 hm
16:36 PilzAdam sfan5, MinetestBot seems to like me
16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet who thinks we should stop being able to place plocks that entities are in
16:37 khonkhortisan We should still be able to, the entity should move
16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet O.o
16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet i am using doku_lush
16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet the sky is amazing at night
16:38 khonkhortisan wouldn't want to be itemspammed and not be able to build
16:38 sfan5 PilzAdam: hmmmm causes this problem
16:38 bas080 I will keep first test version of civilization running on 31.151.189.3:30000
16:39 PilzAdam sfan5, IIRC when I merged a commit from kaeza it was wrong too
16:39 bas080 Feel free to try it out and see for your self how the gamplay is quite different
16:39 sfan5 PilzAdam: which commit was that?
16:39 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2fb0e547a01a6e61b821737e61315bad3312e41e
16:39 PilzAdam maybe this
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16:40 jordan4ibanez can we just ban this user? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5468
16:40 jordan4ibanez the download "button" is just a picture
16:41 PilzAdam +1
16:41 sfan5 <MinetestBot> GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Use the nodebox as selection box if it's not set manually 2fb0e547a0 2013-04-05T06:14:37-07:00 http://git.io/J_ZEfw
16:41 sfan5 hmm
16:41 Menche lol
16:41 kaeza jordan4ibanez, +1
16:41 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, +1
16:41 Jordach oopws
16:41 Jordach oops
16:41 Jordach jordan4ibanez, +11³
16:41 jordan4ibanez He put zeg9 as a contributor just because he fucking commented
16:41 VanessaE Jordach: actually he IS beginning to irritate.
16:41 khonkhortisan jojoa1997|Tablet, -1
16:42 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
16:42 VanessaE isn't that your contrib? :-)
16:42 kaeza yep ;)
16:42 Jordach VanessaE, same here, he's driving me up the wall with nonsense mods and posts
16:42 Menche he hasn't done anything *bad*
16:42 Menche he's just maybe over-enthusiastic and bad (terrible) at english grammar
16:42 mauvebic whos irritating?
16:42 mauvebic lol
16:42 kaeza Likwid
16:42 mauvebic oh him lol
16:42 sfan5 !sfu Likwid*
16:42 Jordach he's a Minecrap user who's trying to win here
16:42 MinetestBot Likwid H-Craft Member 973 posts, registered on 2013-01-06 | id: 3972
16:42 mauvebic i would banned his ass three months ago lol
16:43 Menche 973 posts?
16:43 Jordach which i did a. year. ago.
16:43 bas080 I recently started ignoring everything he makes
16:43 Jordach !sfu Jordach
16:43 VanessaE Menche: bad?  terrible?  no, try fucking horrible, unreadable, butchered english.
16:43 mauvebic *correction : 973 non-posts
16:43 MinetestBot Jordach Member 2,883 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332
16:43 Menche i have 807
16:43 kaeza !sfu kaeza
16:43 MinetestBot kaeza Member 819 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279
16:43 bas080 because it is never finishedf
16:43 Menche !sfu celeron55
16:43 VanessaE !sfu VanessaE
16:43 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 314 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2
16:43 MinetestBot VanessaE Moderator 1,585 posts, registered on 2012-04-01 | id: 1580
16:43 sfan5 !sfu celeron*
16:43 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 314 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2
16:43 MinetestBot Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 | id: 2834
16:43 VanessaE only 1585?  I need to get more chatty. :)
16:43 Exio !sfu Exio4
16:43 Menche and he has 3 times the posts of celeron
16:43 khonkhortisan "whos" is pronounced whôs
16:43 Exio :D
16:43 kaeza lol
16:44 MinetestBot Exio4 New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-12-23 | id: 3863
16:44 kaeza celeron56?
16:44 Jordach sfan5, you should change !sfu to !stfu
16:44 Exio +1
16:44 sfan5 no
16:44 Jordach search the forum users
16:44 sfan5 !sfu sfan5
16:44 kaeza !stfu Likwid
16:44 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,131 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
16:44 Jordach !sfu Vohveli
16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i nedd to get more chatty
16:45 MinetestBot Vohveli Moderator 0 posts, registered on 2011-06-05 | id: 93
16:45 Menche he's a moderator, but has 0 posts
16:45 Exio !spam
16:45 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, you have enough as is
16:45 Jordach anyways
16:45 Jordach back to what #minetest
16:45 Menche !sfu Menche
16:45 Jordach IS.
16:45 MinetestBot Menche Member 807 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 | id: 153
16:45 sfan5 Menche: how do you know that he/she is "he"
16:45 Jordach can we drop the bots now, it's getting annoying
16:45 * Menche really is not very chatty
16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet not as much as another NEWER erson meantioned aerlier
16:45 Jordach most of my chatter is here
16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i have been on for almost half a year
16:45 Menche i don't
16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet in real life i rarely say anything
16:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i go days without talking exceot the basic needed
16:46 * Menche would be sitting in a corner looking around awkwardly, irl
16:46 MinetestBot Exio: unknown command
16:46 * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head
16:46 Jordach VanessaE, you have 69 posts on HDX, have a nice day
16:47 sfan5 anyway has anyone seen this:
16:47 sfan5 !help
16:47 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
16:47 Menche so, does anyone on this planet have the ability to delete polls?
16:47 Jordach Menche, it's easier to ping VanessaE or sfan5 to do it
16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet wiata thaw u maen keaza
16:48 Menche Jordach, both of them have said they can't
16:48 jordan4ibanez I just realized, we basically have adventure mode from minecraft in minetest. xD
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16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet no
16:48 NakedFury adventure from what?
16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet you can place or dig in advneter mode
16:48 Jordach jordan4ibanez, /revoke USER interact for adventure
16:48 mauvebic im an adcneterer
16:48 NakedFury more like peaceful exploration
16:48 jordan4ibanez Yes you can, but you need the specific tool for digging
16:49 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head
16:49 mauvebic *advneterer
16:49 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=W1lsdyidzuE
16:49 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but then they cant open chests
16:49 jordan4ibanez Yes you can
16:49 jojoa1997|Tablet no
16:49 jordan4ibanez you can place blocks too >.>
16:49 Jordach back to likquid: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81946#p81946
16:49 jordan4ibanez I'm talking about adventure mode in minecraft, it's almost the exact same from minetest
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16:50 mauvebic either Likwid isn't native english speaker, or he's intentionally writing unintelligeble (sp) posts
16:50 Jordach mauvebic, (sp) ?
16:50 Jordach stupid?
16:50 mauvebic (sp) = i know the spelling might be wrong lol
16:50 Exio spelling
16:51 kaeza jordan4ibanez, I want your avatar as minetest's new icon :D
16:51 Calinou VanessaE: i've added an admin pick which gives drops
16:51 Jordach oh and, he's a tit: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81947#p81947
16:51 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=286
16:51 Menche wasn't that one of cisoun's faenza icons?
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16:51 Calinou adminpickdrops, maptools:pick_admin_with_drops
16:51 kaeza derp
16:51 Menche oh
16:51 Jordach kaeza, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=286
16:52 Jordach his icon's from here
16:52 kaeza didn't know about these
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16:53 Menche "The Master Mind of Portaltest!"
16:53 Jordach bullshit
16:53 Jordach that goes to bas080
16:53 Kacey ooh hai Menchq
16:53 Kacey ooh hai Menche
16:53 Calinou lol, minecraft splash: "Almost java 6!"
16:53 Menche hi
16:53 Calinou hello missing capital
16:54 Kacey can you add the locks mod to your server?
16:54 * Menche wonders what the QR code on the portaltest page says
16:54 Menche why would you put a QR code on a website anyway
16:55 mauvebic stargates are made up of 9 nodes right?
16:55 Menche QR codes are typically for posting urls, you could just make the link on the site
16:55 bas080 Jordach, I don't mind if he tries to do his own thing. But wtf?!?! the thing has a qr code?
16:55 bas080 THafuck?
16:55 Jordach Menche, he'e mentally backwards
16:55 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653
16:55 Jordach its like putting a battery in the wrong way
16:56 Kacey Menche^^
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16:57 mauvebic lol apparently while i was sleeping / snoring the cat stuck her paw in my mouth lol
16:58 Kacey +1 for the cat
16:58 mauvebic explains the dry throat this morning lol
16:58 Menche LOL
16:58 Menche scanned the QR code, it goes to the same forum topic
16:58 Menche that it's posted on
16:59 jojoa1997|Tablet inventory_image = "bas.png^top.png"
16:59 jojoa1997|Tablet that right?
16:59 bas080 ye
16:59 bas080 s
17:00 mauvebic anyone else have blender lock up for five minutes white importing collada files?
17:01 * Menche takes away some of Likwid's commas
17:01 jojoa1997|Tablet can anyone make a node that is caged and has a swirling pic inside
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17:02 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam
17:02 bas080 Bad_command was talking about new ways to define nodeboxes. I think with that you can make that
17:02 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, please stop saying my nick without any text next to it
17:02 Menche you could spawn a spinning entity inside the node
17:02 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
17:03 jojoa1997|Tablet you mobs mod isnt working
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17:03 khonkhortisan "isnt" working how?
17:03 jojoa1997|Tablet my spawners wont spawn the skeleton
17:03 Menche "isn't working": the universal and completely useless bug report
17:04 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
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17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i register an entity
17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet the register_entiy?>
17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the format?
17:06 Exio Menche: read that as the most used bug report
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17:07 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, read lua-api.txt
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17:09 Menche Likwid's "itemflames" mod depends on "defaultwool"
17:09 Menche the zip archive name contains "MASTER", does that indicate it was generated by github?
17:10 Zeg9 I guess he's trying to imitate others.
17:10 * Menche thinks he just put that in there
17:10 Zeg9 Everyone hosting on github have their archive with master inside, so he thought it was a naming convention. That's it.
17:10 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam fix your simple mobs. i keep on getting errors i have to fix
17:11 Zeg9 I wonder why he posts his mod as it doesn't even do anything...
17:12 kaeza Zeg9, does he have a single mod that does anything?
17:12 Menche somehow, it's at version 0.0.5
17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
17:12 Zeg9 That's a really good question...
17:12 Menche and the next version is 0.0.8
17:12 Menche ...?
17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet portal is actually a good game
17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet the one he made
17:12 Zeg9 It doesn't do anything...
17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet he can make mods but he puts every idea down
17:12 Zeg9 Just adds item but not even portal gun (or he made it?)
17:12 mauvebic 4 ships to test: Lusitania, Queen Mary 2, Carpathia and Empress of Ireland 2
17:13 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, I bet 10000 internetz that portal game is just a copypasta from other mods
17:13 Zeg9 I know portal gun would be hard to do but it's essential for a portal game
17:13 Menche the "least download" has a nice button... that doesn't actually link to anything
17:13 Zeg9 The button is a minecraft texture -_-
17:13 jojoa1997|Tablet not really
17:13 PilzAdam Zeg9, really? thats a ban reason
17:13 bas080 Zeg9, shhh no one should know!
17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet well for tiem replacer
17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet no
17:14 Menche was it likwid that had an animated gif avatar service?
17:14 Zeg9 His  ideas are good but he doesn't do anything. I don't say he is needed to be ban though.... He didn't do anything bad...
17:14 mauvebic lol copypasta
17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet BAN HAMMER
17:14 Menche like i said, i think he's just over-enthusiastic and terrible at grammar
17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet ban sledghammer
17:15 NakedFury he is all bark and no bite then?
17:15 kaeza sledge*
17:15 Menche he hasn't done anything *bad*
17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet menche agree
17:15 bas080 common, most of use copy pasted!
17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet idea
17:15 bas080 Just so we can make an addition to that work
17:15 Menche wonder what his native language is
17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet make everything back to entirely C++
17:15 khonkhortisan probably english
17:16 Menche not sure how english could be his native language
17:16 NakedFury I agree
17:16 kaeza ^
17:16 jojoa1997|Tablet ^^
17:16 kaeza ^_^
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17:16 RealBadAngel cmon guys, he at least tries to do something, maybe with time he will manage to finish something
17:16 jojoa1997|Tablet ^_^_^
17:16 bas080 Relatively, people with the best English grammar do not live in USA or England.
17:17 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
17:17 bas080 Bold statement ^^^
17:17 Menche hey   >:(
17:17 bas080 Menche, i'm just saying that. i have no proof
17:17 jojoa1997|Tablet a stdent from germmany got all 100% in englidh class and no one else did \
17:17 kaeza ...
17:18 bas080 In Germany everything is better and bigger
17:18 * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head
17:18 PilzAdam bas080, yes
17:18 NakedFury and beer is better
17:18 NakedFury :D
17:18 jin_xi well, fuck german salad.
17:18 jin_xi its sugary
17:18 bas080 Those Belgiums and the Dutch have some goo beer too!
17:18 NakedFury they cant have everything good
17:18 NakedFury the weather sucks too
17:18 bas080 I preffer dutch beer
17:19 PilzAdam NakedFury, because of that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot
17:19 mauvebic ugh, stupid bug, xarchiver cant zip folders with names containing spaces lol
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17:21 Menche he spelled "frame" "flame"
17:21 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam what should the velocity of the arrow from skeleton be
17:21 Menche everywhere in his mod, all the node definitions, the name, the descriptions
17:21 PilzAdam dunno
17:21 Jordach fast enough to penetrate you IRL
17:21 NakedFury not instant
17:21 * jojoa1997|Tablet ignores jordach
17:21 NakedFury give  chance to dodge them
17:22 Jordach In Germany English write you
17:22 mauvebic boooo McBain!
17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet haha you are in the ignore list jordach
17:22 * Jordach drum rolls for the most useful IRC msg
17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet just deleted you from it
17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet lol perfect timing
17:24 * Menche is not understanding Likwid's "itemflames" code
17:24 Jordach okay: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81982#p81982
17:24 Menche he has 3 node definitions that seem to be identical except for the name
17:24 Jordach likid is OFC a retard
17:24 jojoa1997|Tablet joined #minetest
17:24 Menche only one appears to be actually used
17:25 mauvebic query, OFC?
17:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam how do i make the arrow do damage
17:25 jojoa1997|Tablet witht the hit_player
17:25 Calinou http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?79538-Dell-Alienware-Introduce-Linux-Gaming-PC/
17:25 Calinou popcorn
17:25 PilzAdam look at the DM fireball
17:25 * Calinou gave up in fighting people there
17:26 jojoa1997|Tablet it isbnt right
17:26 jojoa1997|Tablet not updated to new damage system. it think?
17:26 PilzAdam not yet
17:26 * jojoa1997|Tablet give Calinou popcorn for life
17:27 * Menche throws popcorn at everyone
17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet could you type what i need to add for 3 hearts
17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet or could i get that link you had earlier
17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet the one for damage
17:28 mauvebic this common/ multiple common is getting confusing lol what if we simply stuck the mods in the worldfolder, different worlds different mods?
17:28 bas080 mauvebic +1
17:28 mauvebic make sharing maps easier
17:28 jojoa1997|Tablet no cause it would be a pain to update every map
17:28 bas080 But you can still do that, you just have to remove common mods
17:28 mauvebic you could always link
17:28 mauvebic symbolic link i mean
17:29 mauvebic what i did with mm2/spacemm2
17:29 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6435979520/h5C4D0158/
17:29 celeron55 yeah sure, symbolic links on windows are a regular thing, and people always have their minetest installed at the same location for the lifetime of their worlds
17:30 jojoa1997|Tablet do i detect sarcasm?
17:30 mauvebic lol
17:30 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, probably not
17:30 celeron55 your sarcasm detector may have exploded
17:30 jojoa1997|Tablet no i am not in minetest-dev
17:30 celeron55 if it's so unsure
17:31 mauvebic well this common stuff isn't making things easier either
17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet it is
17:31 celeron55 mauvebic: it depends on who you ask
17:31 * Menche wonders if the current situation really is better than before that argument
17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet now you dont have to change everything
17:31 Menche 4 downloads now
17:31 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5423
17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet if you want to change a node just do
17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet just redefine it
17:32 Menche you could always redefine nodes
17:32 mauvebic i thought i was the only one with a custom default but apparently not lol
17:32 mauvebic and some of the stuff in common like buckets alot of people are interested in disabling/restricting
17:32 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone made gravity changing mods yet
17:33 celeron55 mauvebic: oh god
17:33 mauvebic and then theres' this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/599
17:33 celeron55 not any of this "loop through all settings and assume everything is about my new thing" stuff
17:33 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic
17:33 mauvebic didn't really get that last statement lol
17:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i have edited the entire default and uckets and everything else for minitest
17:34 mauvebic just sayin, some of the mods in common aren't really that common, its just stuff some people wish everyone would use
17:35 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone know of a good painting mod
17:36 jojoa1997|Tablet not you paint it but it shows a texture
17:37 mauvebic even some sort of import(mod, game) function might have made more sense
17:37 PilzAdam mauvebic, then you would depend on games
17:37 mauvebic thats relative to depending on common :p
17:38 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Don't re-write entire map_meta.txt if a setting is missing 453d79e3a2 2013-04-06T10:36:51-07:00 http://git.io/P0ndDA
17:38 mauvebic what i picture happening is this: people are gonna write their own commons, thats a given
17:38 kaeza I find it funny how people love open source and public domain stuff but bitch when they have to change something
17:38 Calinou since when /people/ love OSS
17:39 Calinou by people, you mean the general opinion...
17:39 Calinou say "hippies", "hackers" or "activists" instead. >:D
17:39 kaeza I find it funny how hackers love open source and public domain stuff but bitch when they have to change something
17:39 kaeza better? :)
17:39 mauvebic kaeza well its just as silly as bitching about people who question certain changes
17:39 Kacey afk
17:40 * kaeza points at the users who bitched about non-renewable lava
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17:40 mauvebic ogb bitches about everything
17:40 * kaeza also points at the users who bitched about new mese textures
17:40 mauvebic i happen to agree with alot of changes, that don't mean i have to agree with everything though
17:40 mauvebic why does it have to be all or nothing anyhow?
17:41 NakedFury im lost. what are we talking about now?
17:41 mauvebic you either get religous devotion or devout hatred, there dont seem to be much middle ground lol
17:41 kaeza NakedFury, about users who start a holy war for a fucking one line change
17:41 NakedFury ohh
17:41 NakedFury I got 2 words
17:41 NakedFury fuck em
17:42 NakedFury make the changes if they dont like it then as an open source project they can change it back
17:42 kaeza that's my point
17:42 mauvebic still talking about ogb?
17:42 NakedFury if they keep bitching place on ignore list
17:42 kaeza those users started a holy war because they were lazy asses who didn't bother to change that line
17:43 mauvebic at least have the balls to name'em
17:43 mauvebic if youre gonna swear at them :p
17:43 Exio kaeza: or a mod what changes it!
17:43 kaeza 0gb.us
17:43 mauvebic ty
17:43 kaeza and maybe Menche and Mitori
17:43 mauvebic some changes are easily reverted, and i dont get debating it for weeks
17:43 kaeza Exio, I even wrote a mod for him :P
17:44 Exio i saw that, and exactly
17:44 jojoa1997|Tablet peop[le bitching about changes
17:44 jojoa1997|Tablet \oops sorry didnt see newer posts
17:44 mauvebic people either bitch about changes, or bitch about people who bitch about changes :p
17:44 mauvebic one wonders who isn't a bitch around here lol
17:44 kaeza I'm from the second group :P
17:44 NakedFury you forgot or bitch about no changes
17:45 mauvebic true that
17:45 * jojoa1997|Tablet is the devil's advocate
17:45 * Jordach bitches about the people who don't bitch
17:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i voted for both sides
17:45 mauvebic well, the game stayed the same for so long, you had to expect blowback
17:45 NakedFury im on the progression/change party
17:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i kept it going XD
17:45 kaeza mauvebic, g*d bless open source
17:45 mauvebic im on the "maintain functionality" team lol
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet so...
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone know of a good painting mod
17:46 NakedFury thats a given mauvebic
17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet not you paint it but it shows a texture
17:46 kaeza jin_xi's
17:46 mauvebic and the "not breaking shit that works" team lol
17:47 mauvebic linus might be an ass, but he's right, you never break userland lol
17:47 Calinou >linus
17:47 Calinou >right
17:47 Calinou he stopped being right when he said "fuff you nvidia"
17:47 mauvebic that was stupid
17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet there is one person that does not bitch at all
17:48 mauvebic anyone who seriously believes the opensource drivers are better should get their heads checked
17:48 Calinou you
17:48 kaeza and the award goes to...
17:48 Calinou mauvebic: intel's drivers are decent
17:48 Calinou but it is still slower than the windows one (which is proprietary... lol :P)
17:48 mauvebic im on nvidia and ati, need the latest, and best
17:48 Calinou intel supports opensource when it's good for them
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17:48 kaeza and sdzen
17:48 mauvebic and bitching at the people who give me the best driver for nvidia... well ianno lol
17:48 kaeza whoops
17:48 Calinou and about being anticompetitive, they are no better than microsoft
17:49 Calinou people whine at MS so much, but intel does the same, or is worse since the stuff they do applies to all OS
17:49 Calinou eg. abusive segmentation
17:49 Jordach Calinou, go AMD
17:49 Calinou no crapalyst for me
17:49 jojoa1997|Tablet there is one person that does not bitch at all
17:49 mauvebic opensource is free association, bitching at companies there to make a profit is counterproductive, you cant force people/companies to be open if they dont want to
17:49 jojoa1997|Tablet celeron55
17:50 NakedFury celeron bitches about us bitchin too much
17:50 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, he does bitch
17:50 kaeza but for some valid reasons
17:50 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but not about the game
17:50 Leoneof v0.4.5 is working with me O_O
17:50 jojoa1997|Tablet for he can just change it
17:50 kaeza Leoneof, \o/
17:50 mauvebic well anyone who's been around alot of OSS projects knows criticism is hardly welcomed in most circles :p
17:50 Leoneof what's the best server to play online?
17:51 Leoneof kaeza: thanks :D
17:51 Calinou "multiplayer"
17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet if he wants he can make it closed source
17:51 Calinou latest ver is 0.4.6 btw
17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb.us
17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet sunrisetest.no-ip.org
17:51 kaeza <--- this guy's server is da best
17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae.mine.bz
17:51 sokomine or redcrabs server (has lots of good buildings)
17:51 Leoneof Resolving Address...
17:51 mauvebic like shuttleworth calling his own users elitist because they dont like gnome3 lol
17:51 mauvebic or unity
17:51 Leoneof Connecting...
17:51 sokomine yes, vanessas' good as well
17:52 mauvebic or whatever flash-in-the-pan thing theyre trying
17:52 jojoa1997|Tablet ASIAN FOOD
17:52 Calinou mauvebic: shuttleworth is right here: he says "linux should only be for the elite" is stupid
17:52 Calinou and unity is fine
17:52 mauvebic but hardly anyone says that
17:53 mauvebic perhaps the distribution devs themselves
17:53 Jordach there is a good use for unity and gnome
17:53 kaeza Calinou, wut
17:53 Calinou that's the linux community
17:53 mauvebic but most users dont agree
17:53 Jordach getting KDE OR XFCE
17:53 kaeza >unity is fine
17:53 kaeza fuckk no
17:53 Calinou it has a few nice features, which compensate its downsides
17:53 Calinou eg. HUD
17:53 Calinou no other DE has the "HUD" feature
17:53 Jordach Calinou, notifications in XFCE4
17:53 mauvebic did docks suddenly drop off the face of the earth? lol
17:53 Jordach they hover
17:53 mauvebic widgets aren't new either
17:54 Calinou Jordach: by HUD I mean the ability to search in an application's menus
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17:54 USA zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 - Best server
17:54 Kacey lol
17:54 Kacey !server
17:54 MinetestBot Kacey: VanessaE's Testing Server | vanessae.mine.bz:30000   up (91.789%)
17:54 mauvebic if they had put time into the gnome2-panel fixing broken applets and adding new ones, they wouldn't need the hud lol
17:54 Calinou gnome 2 is obsolete
17:55 mauvebic tell that to all of mate's users :p
17:55 Calinou and the only theme that made it look good was ambiance :P
17:55 mauvebic and cinnamons'
17:55 Leoneof vanessae.mine.bz:30000  <--- this need username / password :\
17:56 Calinou cinnamon is based on gnome 3
17:56 mauvebic i have a hard time justifying change for the sake of change when something already works and is KISS
17:56 Calinou mauvebic: btw, haven't gnome 3 got a new fallback mode recently?
17:56 jojoa1997|Tablet hogwarts mving pictures
17:56 mauvebic yeah, cuz theyre tired of bleeding users
17:56 jojoa1997|Tablet v\ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4635
17:56 mauvebic they finally figured calling them all stupid and un-enlightened hasn't helped their cause
17:57 mauvebic though judging from the comments on /.   very little left who cares what they do now
17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic who is this
17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet links mauybe?
17:58 mauvebic what?
17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet links to comments
17:58 mauvebic dude, if you cant keep up :p
17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont feel like looking back
17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i just came back from making lunch
17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i will look back
17:59 mauvebic well if youre too lazy to scrollback i wont go trolling the net for an old article for you :p
17:59 kaeza ^
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17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet you mean this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4635
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18:00 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i scrolled back but
18:00 mauvebic slashdot, google gnome3, should be one of the latest articles
18:00 jojoa1997|Tablet you startd talking about them earlier than i realized
18:01 jojoa1997|Tablet brb
18:02 Leoneof gnome3? eeeww
18:02 Leoneof gnome2 is awww
18:03 jojoa1997|Tablet back
18:03 Leoneof wb mojojojo
18:03 mauvebic dunno, i prefer showing off the things i do on the computer, not showing off the computer itself lol
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18:05 NakedFury how did the earlier conversation about minetest changes got to linux stuff?
18:05 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82006#p82006
18:06 mauvebic im not sure lol
18:06 mauvebic flowing conversations lol
18:07 Leoneof it was gdb
18:07 NakedFury well i will keep monitoring while I flow to some combat on planetside 2
18:08 mauvebic hmm, thats not the Queen Mary 2, its the Queen Mary
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18:10 VanessaE Leoneof: make up a password.
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18:10 kaeza YAY http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=696709#696709
18:10 VanessaE (on my server, you just need to make one up, and remember it for later)
18:10 jojoa1997|Tablet afk
18:10 Leoneof VanessaE: yes i was following wiki, it's loading...
18:10 mauvebic theres a mt package for puppy?
18:10 mauvebic sweet-ass
18:11 mauvebic running a server off netbook might be more feasible(sp) than i thought
18:11 VanessaE Leoneof:  oh ok
18:12 mauvebic trying to get family and friends to join on the ship building effort lol only got about 20 or so ships (space and sea)
18:13 * VanessaE scrolls back to see what she missed
18:13 mauvebic not much :p
18:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, you missed pure awesomeness!
18:14 mauvebic some stuff about common/multiple commons, gnome3, etc.
18:14 Taoki hi. When you create an item in a mod which you want to spawn naturally, how do you add it to the mapgen in your init.lua?
18:14 Taoki eg: A plant
18:14 Taoki Which you want to be generated on grass and dirt nodes
18:14 PilzAdam Taoki, see the default mod
18:15 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#xmKEwb8J omg lol
18:16 Taoki oh, minetest.register_on_generated it was. Thanks
18:18 Taoki Yet no detailed documentation or examples on it :P Gonna have to see how default did it although it's a bit big
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18:21 Taoki Yeah, the stuff there is too complicated. Anyone know the simplest way to add an item on top of grass in register_on_generated ?
18:21 Taoki The default example is full of complex maths and I don't need anything that fancy
18:22 kaeza Taoki, making flowers? :P
18:22 Taoki kaeza: There already is a folower mod, I'm making a special plant of sorts :P But I wanna know to use this for more in the future too
18:23 Kacey check jordan4ibanez's surface gen code
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18:23 Taoki Kacey: Any links?
18:23 kaeza Kacey, that is -ND
18:23 Kacey -ND?
18:23 Taoki Eh, no one says tou can't look at the code for inspiration if you don't copy anything directly :)
18:23 Taoki No Distribute I think
18:23 kaeza No Derivatives
18:24 Taoki yeah
18:24 Menche he the only one who uses -ND?
18:24 Menche don't see that much
18:24 mauvebic which mod is ND?
18:25 kaeza all of j4i's
18:25 kaeza (or at least his recent ones)
18:25 mauvebic ah meh, even though i dont use it anymore, it is his right :P
18:26 Taoki Anywaym, any other example of simple item additions in register_on_generated?
18:28 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam please update throwing and simple mobs to the new attack system
18:28 Hwkiller could someone test a minetest server of mine?
18:29 jojoa1997|Tablet i will
18:29 Menche you can use !up to see if it's up
18:30 sdzen !up kray.dy.fi:30000
18:30 MinetestBot sdzen: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
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18:31 sdzen !up kray.dy.fi 30000
18:31 MinetestBot kray.dy.fi:30000 seems to be down
18:31 sdzen of course
18:31 Menche that server's been dead *forever*
18:31 Kray wut
18:31 sdzen nothing kray, go back to the sea
18:32 sdzen play with your fish friends
18:32 Kray I'm fairly certain these guys I'm playing Eve with are not fishes
18:32 NakedFury Taoki isnt there a generic or default way to do that, that is not under a ND license?
18:33 mauvebic what are you trying to do?
18:34 Taoki mauvebic: Spawn an item randomly on grass when a chunk is created
18:34 Taoki Think I'm gonna use a loop on X and Z to choose a random location, then find the top in Y if any... in case no better example exists
18:34 mauvebic vanessa's plantlib does that and its not ND
18:34 Taoki for x = minp.x, maxp.x do
18:35 VanessaE use plants_lib :-)
18:35 Taoki nice. VanessaE's older flowers mod uses a laggier method I'm trying to avoid
18:35 VanessaE it rules :)
18:35 Taoki Is there a link?
18:35 mauvebic ze forums
18:35 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife
18:35 mauvebic or that
18:35 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3898
18:35 Taoki thanks
18:36 VanessaE flowers are spawned by an ABM, but you can also make stuff spawn at mapgen time (moretrees does that)
18:36 Taoki VanessaE: BTW. I was going to complain soon that http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2624 isn't min minetest_game by default yet :)
18:36 mauvebic ianno, its alot easier deleting all the ropes in blender than doing it after in minetest lol
18:36 Taoki Cuz I see no reason for this
18:36 Taoki VanessaE: Ah, I already know by ABM
18:36 Taoki Trying to avoid that
18:36 VanessaE Taoki: plants_lib needs yo be rewritten into C++ before it'll ever be included in the engine, though it is damned fast with luajit
18:36 VanessaE to*
18:37 mauvebic why cpp? what takes so long?
18:37 Taoki VanessaE: Wish normal flowers could be spawned with the mapgen in the correct way and be defaulted tho
18:37 mauvebic seems to me the API could simply be improved, (for all mods)
18:37 mauvebic some sort of fauna-specific thingie
18:37 VanessaE Taoki: making them spawn at mapgen time would be fairly trivial
18:37 mauvebic like ores
18:38 VanessaE mauvebic: because C++ is more efficient than Lua is all.
18:38 bas080 I have mesecons modpack installled with the modpack.txt but it won't find the init.lua? how come?
18:38 mauvebic tried luac?
18:38 VanessaE mauvebic: with luajit, there's no need\
18:38 mauvebic you can compile for luajit too actually
18:38 mauvebic read up on it yesterday
18:39 VanessaE I compile Minetest against luajit, and it's about to be added to upstream I think, so soon everyone will be able to benefit from it
18:39 mauvebic ladies and gents, the RMS Queen Mary http://ompldr.org/vaTBldQ/screenshot_3768824402.png
18:40 VanessaE nice
18:40 mauvebic its missing a bottom but shhh lol
18:40 mauvebic most of the meshes come with an ocean so they never bothered with the belly of the ship lol
18:41 VanessaE heh
18:41 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i make minetest add a node
18:41 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
18:42 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest.env:add_node("")
18:43 Taoki yep
18:43 PilzAdam no
18:45 Hwkiller what's the keybinding for a screenshot?
18:45 * Menche 's server has 164% cpu usage
18:45 Hwkiller because I just found an amazingly large cave
18:45 Menche F12
18:45 Menche F1 and F2 to hide the gui
18:45 Hwkiller thanks
18:46 proller Hwkiller, want look at really big cave?
18:46 Hwkiller hm, it didn't screenshot
18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet chfck /minetest/bin
18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet *check
18:47 kaeza Hwkiller, what OS?
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18:47 Hwkiller this is ubuntu 13.04
18:48 Hwkiller this is a system-wide install
18:48 kaeza Hwkiller, not sure, but some WMs stupidly assign F12 to something, and it never gets into MT
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18:48 Hwkiller ah actually... that might e it
18:48 Hwkiller be*
18:49 CryAngel hi all
18:49 kaeza hi
18:49 Taoki PilzAdam: About your simple mobs framework; When will they be included in minetest as part of builtin already? Still eager to see that :P
18:50 sokomine i like the 3d animals from sapiers mobf more
18:51 sokomine they're the right mix between cute (not too much) and realistic
18:51 bas080 Is there an easy way to avoid submodules in git?
18:51 Taoki I had a 3D animals mod. But the ones I have has models which aren't bhe best, and also not made fully out of boxes
18:51 sokomine at least the peaceful, natural aniamals
18:52 sokomine not made fully out of boxes?
18:52 Taoki sokomine: It has diagonal parts which sort of breaks the style for the default game
18:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i almost have skeletons finished
18:53 jojoa1997|Tablet the arrow is a pain though
18:53 mauvebic i think hmmm was gonna take a look at the various mob frameworks before including any of them (i think)
18:54 rubenwardy hi all
18:54 kaeza hey ruben
18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the code for adding an item to the environment
18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i cannot find it
18:55 kaeza minetest.env:add_entity() ?
18:55 mauvebic Carpathia http://ompldr.org/vaTBmNA/screenshot_3769481391.png
18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no n NODE
18:56 mauvebic Empress of Ireland http://ompldr.org/vaTBmNQ/screenshot_3769821792.png
18:56 jojoa1997|Tablet "throwing:arrow"
18:56 Menche doesn't simple mobs have an api for making stuff like that?
18:56 sokomine aah. got that problem with the panel/slab solved...there was one of those invisible nodes in my inv (inventory images work only to a degree; never for wool, occasionally for stairsplus). individual nodes of one type cannot be distinguished from an empty inventory slot unless letting the mouse hover over it. that is sometimes annoying
18:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i am using it
18:57 sokomine on the other hand...the f10-bug seems to have not appeared, and generally, 0.4.6 seems stable so far :-)
18:57 jojoa1997|Tablet i never experienced the f10 bug\
18:57 sokomine that bug happend to me a lot
18:58 jojoa1997|Tablet not once from 0.4.0 to now
18:58 jojoa1997|Tablet well i used windows 7
18:59 ShadowNinja Does anyone know what I should use to get my second monitor to work in XFCE?
19:00 mauvebic hammer?
19:00 mauvebic :P
19:01 Hwkiller http://i.imgur.com/aUrRLxq.png <-- the giant cave
19:01 Hwkiller had to take pic via scrot
19:01 mauvebic what dist?
19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest,set_node(pos, {name=""})
19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ^
19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet would that work
19:01 PilzAdam no
19:02 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i make it drop nothing
19:02 PilzAdam minetest.env:set_node(pos, {name=""})
19:02 jojoa1997|Tablet how is the armor coming?
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19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam could you make some code for ore gen
19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet the nodes are
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19:09 jordan4ibanez temp ban yoyobuddy for trolling, and likwid for spamming unfinished mods and generally stupid stuff. :<
19:10 Menche they haven't really done anything wrong
19:10 Menche so you're annoyed by someone? welcome to the Internet.
19:11 jojoa1997|Tablet "minitest:lapis_block"
19:11 jojoa1997|Tablet that is one ore
19:11 jordan4ibanez It's not me, it's everyone is annoyed by them
19:11 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/595 <- this is great
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19:14 VanessaE bbl
19:15 jojoa1997|Tablet bbn
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19:19 jojoa1997|Tablet NakedFury ping
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19:34 Hwkiller can someone join my server to see whether it's functional? I'll PM you the IP
19:34 Menche you can use !up to see if it's up
19:34 Menche like
19:34 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000
19:34 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (1.376ms)
19:34 khonkhortisan /msg MinetestBot !up ip.ip.ip.ip
19:34 Hwkiller Not just whether it's up, but whether anything breaks when you join
19:35 Hwkiller I mean I know it's up; I'm staring at it
19:35 khonkhortisan nooo! I resized the window and lost my luacontroller code!
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19:37 bas080 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81851#p81851
19:38 bas080 civilization update has been made and the serve is up and running. on ip http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81851#p81851
19:38 bas080 31.151.189.3
19:38 bas080 port 30000
19:39 Hwkiller civilization?? hmm
19:40 CryAngel here someone with linux and CMake knowledge, who can try compile my branch with luajit and see what wrong?
19:40 bas080 Hwkiller join!
19:41 Hwkiller bas080: i'm stil geting the hang of the base game :p
19:41 khonkhortisan Your name is out of order
19:41 bas080 There is a craft guide
19:42 CryAngel is stop on linking with some undefined reference errors...
19:48 Menche is there a way of dynamically loading textures?
19:49 NotReallyNick I wish there was.
19:49 NotReallyNick It would be good for adding people's custom skins.
19:49 Menche i have player_texture installed; when you give someone a skin but don't restart, they get a dummy skin
19:49 Menche = solid random color
19:49 NotReallyNick Exactly what I mean.
19:50 NotReallyNick Same happens on my custom skins plugin.
19:50 NotReallyNick (a fork of Zeg9's skins)
19:51 kaeza CryAngel, link?
19:52 CryAngel https://github.com/AngelCry/minetest/tree/LuaJIT
19:56 bas080 Looking form more people to test Civilization mod.... Anyone?? 31.151.189.3:30000
19:56 bas080 Come and join!!!
19:59 kaeza CryAngel, gimme a sec
19:59 Kacey what happened to my FTB topic?
20:00 Menche what topic?
20:00 Kacey under servers tab
20:00 Kacey not tab
20:00 Kacey under servers
20:01 Kacey does minetest support headgear?
20:01 NakedFury helmets?
20:01 Kacey like hats
20:02 Kacey part of the player texture
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20:02 mauvebic hehe, just sent my ISP a scathing email
20:02 NakedFury you have to make the new model with hats
20:02 Menche you can put that in part of the player skin, i believe
20:02 mauvebic complete with diagrams
20:02 Menche i think you can put a hat in the player texture for the current model
20:03 NotReallyNick Yes, you can.
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20:04 NotReallyNick Some people are ending up with plain white heads, because they are attempting to edit skins with Microsoft Paint. It removes the transparency of the spot that acts as the headgear.
20:05 Menche their fault for using MS Paint for something serious  ;)
20:05 khonkhortisan Destruction of data is a very bad thing.
20:06 Kacey lol
20:06 NotReallyNick It's their fault for using Windows for anything serious. ☺
20:06 Menche that too :D
20:06 NotReallyNick khonkhortisan: That's why I don't like JPEGs.
20:07 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: Adjusting water removing above unloaded blocks d50b2ede92 2013-04-06T13:05:39-07:00 http://git.io/7HMYRA
20:07 NotReallyNick Nice.
20:07 Menche JPEGS are good for photos, but don't use them for any textures
20:07 Menche unless they're insane resolution
20:08 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ MinetestBot's message is wrong again
20:08 sfan5 not my fault
20:08 NotReallyNick They are bad for photos too though. They're lossy, so any photo editing deteriorated the image. Plaus, JPEGs are often larger than their PNG counterparts.
20:08 NotReallyNick *deteriorates
20:09 NotReallyNick *Plus
20:09 NotReallyNick TO be honest, JPEGs are an outdated technology. It's sad that they are still in such wide use.
20:09 NotReallyNick *To
20:09 Menche what about jp2
20:10 sfan5 jpg, bah
20:10 Menche believe that's a newer version
20:10 * Hwkiller is installing minetest-git
20:11 NotReallyNick if JP2 isn't lossy, it might be good. But lossy image compression is an outdated concept.
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20:11 Menche think vanessa uses jpeg for her ultra-mega-high-resolution pack
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20:12 NotReallyNick I wish I could say the same about ALL lossy file compression, but for now, things such as sound need to be lossily compressed to avoid filling your hard drive (I think).
20:12 Menche i typically use .flac, that's lossless
20:12 Menche and compressed
20:12 NotReallyNick I know VanessaE uses JPEGs, that doesn't make JPEGs any less of a legacy technology.
20:13 NotReallyNick FLAC is sound?
20:13 Menche apparently they make some of here textures smaller
20:13 khonkhortisan ☹ Prohibited command
20:13 khonkhortisan for segment = 1, 7 do
20:13 Menche *her
20:13 Menche yes, flac = free lossless audio codec
20:13 NotReallyNick Oh, nice. So lossy audio is probably becoming legacy technology as well. Good.
20:14 Menche i don't know about the size compared to .ogg or .mp3
20:15 Menche why is mp3 so widely used...
20:15 Menche .ogg apparenly has better quality for a smaller filesize
20:15 NotReallyNick Not sure. I don't deal a whole lot in sound.
20:15 Menche and it's free and open
20:15 Menche all i know about sound files is the options on the banshee import settings :P
20:15 NotReallyNick "Free and open" is probably why. Microsoft discourages things such as that.
20:16 Menche and there's .acc or whatever from apple
20:16 * NotReallyNick wishes people would just follow the standards. They're there for a reason.
20:17 Menche mp3 seems to be an undefined standard; everyone uses it, like it or not
20:17 khonkhortisan there's also .flac
20:18 Menche minetest uses .ogg
20:18 NotReallyNick Yes, Mencheuses .flac.
20:18 NotReallyNick *manche uses
20:18 Menche *menche
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20:18 Menche maybe it's larger than the alternatives, but i have more than enough space
20:18 khonkhortisan WHAT‽ It's refusing to run because I have a "for" in the comments!
20:19 NotReallyNick Sorry, I'm full of typos.
20:19 Menche although, i use a bunch of mp3 files, because the store i bought them from only offered mp3  >:(
20:19 kaeza CryAngel, compiled but *TONS* of undefined refs
20:19 NotReallyNick It refused to run for me because it thought I was trying to nest comments. I didn't even know comment nesting was a valid thing.
20:19 kaeza looks like luajit is not being linked
20:19 Hwkiller that's peculiar... I installed minetest-git as a system-wide installation; it can't find  "default", "bucket", "creative", "doors", "dye", "fire", "stairs", "vessels", "wool
20:20 NotReallyNick Did you install common?
20:20 Hwkiller search minetest
20:20 Hwkiller ...
20:20 Hwkiller sorry
20:20 NotReallyNick Install both common and Minetest.
20:20 CryAngel im already listen this :)
20:20 Menche anyone confused by the 4 different downloads now?
20:20 Hwkiller I don't see a "common"
20:20 Menche https://github.com/minetest/common
20:20 Menche install it as a game
20:20 NotReallyNick I'm not confused. Also, it's five downloads, not four.
20:21 Menche 5?
20:21 NotReallyNick minetest, common, minetest_game, build, survival
20:21 Menche minetest, common, survival, build
20:21 Menche is minetest_game still going to be updated?
20:21 NotReallyNick You left out minetest_game, which is still a thing.
20:21 Menche i though it was split into build and survival
20:21 CryAngel kaeza: im most sure something just missed, coz on linux is compiled and linked ok
20:22 NotReallyNick minetest_game was split into minetest_game, build, and survival.
20:22 Menche so, there's 3 different-but-very-similar official games
20:22 kaeza CryAngel, I'm on Ubuntu
20:22 CryAngel err... on windows...
20:22 NotReallyNick Four games. Minimal.
20:22 kaeza I'm taking a look at it now
20:22 Menche ok, make that 4 then.
20:22 Menche lol
20:23 NotReallyNick Is minimal the most official of all? It's included with the engine, after all ....
20:23 NotReallyNick Yet it's a test game, so maybe it's the least official ....
20:23 Menche does minimal still have the old 0.3.x textures?
20:23 NotReallyNick Yes.
20:24 NotReallyNick Or, last I checked.
20:24 NotReallyNick Checking ...
20:24 Menche and the menubg is still the old 0.3.x dirt
20:24 Menche or was, before the clouds
20:24 NotReallyNick Yep. Old textures.
20:25 CryAngel kaeza: i think is must be something simple, like some flag not passed or some
20:25 Hwkiller NotReallyNick: it looks like it's only tryign to pull minetest_game in the pkgbuild for arch
20:25 Hwkiller which explains my errors I think
20:25 NotReallyNick Okay. I think they fixed that issue in the dev version, though not sure.
20:26 NotReallyNick You could put common in ~/.minetest/games .
20:26 NotReallyNick I think.
20:27 Hwkiller https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mi/minetest-git/PKGBUILD <-- this is what is being used to build the arch git package
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20:27 Hwkiller and it only clones minetest_game
20:27 CryAngel btw, some 'generic mob' will be included in minetest somewhen?
20:27 NotReallyNick I don't know, I've been on the run-in-place version since 0.4.5, due to the lack of official packages.
20:27 VanessaE there, now our house has a nighttime security light.
20:28 Menche would it make sense for the games to be split out of the main PKGBUILD and depend on minetest-git?
20:28 NotReallyNick I don't know if mobs will be added. If they are, it might be only added to survival.
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20:28 NotReallyNick *they might
20:28 Menche i've heard rumors of c++ pathfinding, is there any work going on there?
20:29 bas080 is it normal that there is a echo of the sounds you just made in game?
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20:29 Menche think at least one person was working on that
20:29 CryAngel i mean just some generic mob, with base functions implemented in C/C++
20:29 mauvebic this is gonna be a BIG shipyard: http://ompldr.org/vaTBnaQ/screenshot_3775414336.png
20:29 NotReallyNick As I said, I don't know when or if that will happen.
20:29 CryAngel as i understand, now mobs fully implemented in lua
20:30 Menche mobs are completely in lua, and my poor lil Pentium4 server can't handle them :(
20:31 CryAngel is what about i say. i think will be much better, if lua code just override or extend 'generic mob'
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20:35 mauvebic dont worry too much about mobs :P
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20:37 Hwkiller NotReallyNick: I'm updating the person's pkgbuild; hopefully it'll work and it'll be easier than ever to play minetest in arch
20:38 NotReallyNick Nice!
20:38 Hwkiller I might not be able to code or speak other languages, but I can package like a fiend
20:38 jordan4ibanez I can't believe I just bought the original Call of Duty and Carnivores 2 lol
20:38 NotReallyNick Nice. I have no idea how to do that.
20:39 Hwkiller arch packages are easy. rpms and debs are horrible.
20:39 Hwkiller arch packages = one text file with some meta-data and two scripts (one for building, one for installing). if you know bash, you know how to pkg on arch.
20:39 * Menche sees a fellow Archer :)
20:40 Menche would it make sense to split the games out of the minetest-git PKGBUILD?
20:40 Hwkiller yeah, my heart lies in arch; I use ubuntu most often though because that's what's on my work computer
20:40 Menche have them depend on minetest-git
20:40 Menche maybe include minetest_game with minetest-git
20:40 Hwkiller Menche: it wouldn't be too hard to do, but I just want an all-in-one for now
20:40 Menche or have it as an optional dep
20:41 * CryAngel also like Arch package system :)
20:41 Hwkiller but yeah, could just make new packages with the functions I used in separate pkgbuilds.
20:42 sokomine i'm having a problem on menches server. framerate dropped to 1! that usually does not happen even with my bad grapics and in worlds with heavy moretree leaves!
20:42 sokomine something is going wrong there. but how may that affect the client?
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20:42 Hwkiller woot, the pkgbuild works
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20:43 sokomine any ideas for why the fps dropped so badly?
20:45 mauvebic in 046? it went up for me
20:45 mauvebic from 45 to 60
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20:49 jordan4ibanez for all of you who liked the idea of having half slabs generate on the terrain http://pastie.org/pastes/7344262/text?key=lsczkxchwwjm3uscmfuw
20:49 ShadowNinja I want to convert a string of ascii hex codes like 6e to the character they represent, does anyone know how to do that with shell?
20:49 sokomine ok...it drops down in fps whenever nodeboxes are present it seem
20:51 jordan4ibanez That generates half slab nodes, not perfectly, but I can work on it a little if people really like it
20:54 pandaro hi all i have problem ( little)
20:55 pandaro I just completed the last minetest
20:55 jordan4ibanez We've already made a movie?
20:55 pandaro did not create the bin directory
20:56 pandaro on ubuntu 12.04
20:56 sokomine wish that half-slab code would be downloadable. it's on mediafire iirc :-(
20:57 pandaro does anyone know why?
20:58 khonkhortisan Did you compile with run in place?
20:58 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/fqz09vxzldftxyz/surface_find_api.zip?token_hash=AAGGV4F_VjkW8mM6CDxfSmGgc0lnvpVPS0gJn-7jWShHvg&amp;dl=1
20:59 ShadowNinja How di I check if a index exists in python? in Lua it is just if array["index"] then, but python does things differently
21:02 Taoki Erm... why do I have no permission to post in Mod Releases on the forum?
21:02 jordan4ibanez you have to post in mod general
21:03 pandaro sure i follow the usual instruction inside readme
21:03 Taoki oh, ok
21:03 pandaro always compile
21:04 pandaro I tried 2 times
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21:05 VanessaE gloopblocks just got an update, to pick up obsidian stairs et.al that were dropped from technic.
21:06 kaeza CryAngel, I have been looking and have no idea where the thing may have gone wrong
21:07 CryAngel kaeza: sad :(
21:07 thexyz ShadowNinja: if "index" in array
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21:09 Uberi whoa MT 0.4.6 is out!
21:09 CryAngel kaeza: both -ldl and -lm flags actually passed to linker?
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21:14 kaeza CryAngel, yes
21:15 kaeza CryAngel, /usr/bin/c++ (...) -o bin/minetestserver -rdynamic -lz jthread/libjthread.a -lsqlite3 json/libjsoncpp.a luaJIT/libluajit.a -lpthread -lrt -ldl -lcurl -lm
21:17 CryAngel kaeza: don't think here any differences, but i never try build server...
21:18 kaeza well... the server is the only thing that actually uses lua
21:20 ShadowNinja thexyz: thanks, might you know how to convert a stream of ASCII character codes like "6a726b" into the character they signify in shell?
21:21 Menche echo -e \\u[code]
21:21 ShadowNinja hmm, maybe, with xargs
21:21 CryAngel kaeza: i mean i check BUILD_CLIENT and uncheck BUILD_SERVER
21:22 kaeza CryAngel, if it does not build the standalone server, then what is the purpose?
21:23 Kacey hi Menche
21:23 Menche hi
21:23 Kacey have you added my skin yet?
21:23 * Menche 's server is too popular
21:23 kaeza I build server only because it takes less time
21:23 Menche oh, not yet
21:24 Uberi Menche: that's one of the better kinds of problems to have :)
21:24 Menche Uberi: not when your server's running on an old Pentium4
21:24 mauvebic puppy linux then
21:24 kaeza ^
21:24 CryAngel kaeza: well, i see only one way to resolve - build luajit library using makefile and using CMake and then step by step look for differences
21:25 mauvebic seriously, im gonna give it a shot on netbook
21:25 kaeza CryAngel, do try :)
21:26 kaeza CryAngel, I've been grepping and the files containing the undefined references are not linked
21:26 Menche Kacey: i'll install it when nobody's online, it requires a restart
21:26 Kacey k
21:26 Menche if it's installed but not restarted, you get a random solid color as a skin
21:27 CryAngel kaeza: you mean .o files?
21:27 kaeza yes
21:27 * sfan5 just switched from 32bit ubuntu to 64bit ubuntu
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21:28 Menche my server used to never have more than 2 or 3 players on
21:28 Menche now that it's on the server list, it never has less than 8
21:29 CryAngel kaeza: so, they compiled but just not linked in final libjit.a?
21:29 kaeza CryAngel, did you modify luajit's CMakeLists.txt?
21:29 Menche ...and the cpu usage doesn't look that bad
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21:30 CryAngel kaeza: luajit dont have CMake build system at all :D
21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet for those interested in minitest i have updated. PilzAdam please erase the old link and add versions like you have except put something like [url=link]dev-1.0[/url]
21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82050#p82050
21:31 jojoa1997|Tablet or can i start my own topic
21:31 jojoa1997|Tablet i think i will
21:31 ShadowNinja come on, too many escapes: sed "s/\\\\/\n\\\\\\\\/g"
21:31 ShadowNinja that replaces "\" with "<newline>\"
21:32 ShadowNinja that replaces "\" with "<newline>\\"
21:32 Taoki Aaand I just made my first MineTest mod: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82051 Really nothing special, but it might be nice
21:32 NakedFury nice
21:32 kaeza Taoki, congrats :)
21:32 NakedFury you got the blurry shader on
21:32 Taoki kaeza: Thanks :)
21:33 * Menche doesn't understand the several forum members who have a creeper as their avatar. MINETEST DOESN'T HAVE CREEPERS
21:33 Uberi whoa that is one sweet flower
21:33 Uberi Menche: boombombs! (mobf)
21:33 jojoa1997|Tablet seen reply
21:33 Taoki thanls :)
21:33 Taoki **thanks
21:33 jojoa1997|Tablet Taoki you might want to consider it
21:35 sokomine the server list attracts a lot of players. some are new to the game
21:35 ShadowNinja Menche: I have something like this being piped out of sed: \\u006d<newline>\\u006a[...] I tried using xargs echo -e and xargs -I '{}' echo -e {} but it isn't working, do you know the correct command?
21:35 sokomine i'm still puzzled about the severe drop in framerate. even if the server is slow that ought to have no impact at all
21:35 Menche echo -e \\u
21:36 CryAngel kaeza: CMakeLists.txt in my branch is mix of minetest/lua CMakeLists.txt and CMakeLists.txt from some git repo (i think is fork of luajit)
21:36 Menche "echo -e \\u100" outputs "A"
21:36 Menche Ā
21:36 Menche with a tilde over it
21:36 sokomine who's "sokomon"? at least not me...
21:36 Taoki replied
21:37 sokomine hm. i'm staring at the ground. at a perfectly normal cobble-road. framerate: 1 fps
21:37 Uberi look at the sky sokomine
21:37 sokomine cpu-usage 102%
21:37 Uberi :O
21:37 Uberi it's taking computational power from the fabric of reality!
21:38 sokomine a cloud passes by at 1 fps
21:38 Menche server uses latest git, is there anything that oculd do that?
21:38 Menche maybe i'll try the 0.4-stable branch
21:38 sokomine the only area where i could imagine the server having an impact is how much the server sends out to the client
21:39 Menche see some changes to gravity, and per-player gravity settings
21:39 Menche could the server be sending some stuff about gravity the client doesn't expect
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21:39 Menche what version are you using btw
21:39 sokomine now: 0 fps (the cloud still moves). never seen that few fps. not even in a world filled with giant trees with lots of leaves on far (even there it's usually 2-3 fps)
21:40 Uberi sokomine: what's top showing?
21:40 * Menche is going to switch to stable-0.4 and see if that helps
21:40 sokomine i'm using a new build as well. havn't played that much with that version. maybe i ought to check the older version...
21:40 sokomine 101% cpu-usage for minetest
21:40 Menche 104% usage on the server
21:41 sokomine everything else is (as always) neglible
21:41 Kacey eek 5fps
21:41 Menche and my really slow cellular data internet connection isn't helping
21:41 Kacey i had 50 a while ago
21:42 Kacey back to 40
21:42 sokomine hmm. after a lot of waiting i managed to issue the home-command - which took me to my mine. the server replied very fast, and framerate is back to 28...
21:42 Uberi that is pretty strange
21:42 Menche building the stable version
21:42 Menche hopefully the compiler doesn't steal too many cpu cycles...
21:43 sokomine very strange, ye
21:43 sokomine do you have ambience or such installed? i don't think so?
21:43 * ShadowNinja finaly got it
21:43 Menche no
21:44 sokomine sounds played and players moving around *may* be an issue...but not really that much....
21:44 Uberi sokomine: are you on a remote server?
21:44 Menche i'm thinking i'll remove carts, boats, and junglegrass
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21:44 Menche junglegrass has abm's to grow and kill plants
21:44 NakedFury Taoki have you thought on making the opposite type of flower? a Sunflower that opens on daylight and is closed at night.
21:45 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, could you please use an file sharing service that gives you direct download links?
21:45 Menche if a lot of terrain is loaded there would be a lot of abms there
21:45 sokomine can you deactivate mesecons for a moment? iirc there's a huge machine close to where i was standing. i don't know what it does or how complex it is
21:45 Taoki NakedFury: Wouldn't make sense, since you don't see light cast by entities during daytime
21:45 sokomine maybe it sends lots of updates?
21:45 sokomine uberi: i'm on menches server
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21:45 Menche how does mesecons update? is it on_step? i didn't see many abms
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21:46 Uberi so the problem is clientside then
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21:46 Menche of course, fps would be strictly a clientside problem
21:46 sokomine might be, yes
21:46 Menche my best guess is that the server is sending info that the stable clients don't expect
21:47 Menche any other ideas? i'm downgrading it to the stable
21:47 sokomine it ought to be a client-problem, yes. but...why? i'm used to fps dropping drasticly when running around on far in a world with lots of moretrees...but...0-1 fps while staring at the sky? that can't be....
21:47 sokomine or is there something in the sky above your spawn area that got loaded and i didn't see?
21:48 Menche doubt it, it would be visible if loaded
21:48 Uberi disable fog and check again
21:48 Uberi it's like F3 or something
21:48 Menche build at 82%...
21:48 sokomine i've evacuated to my mine. and got 28 fps
21:49 Menche only other thing would be nodeboxes, and they shouldn't make *that* much difference
21:49 Menche i do plan on toning down some of the nodeboxes
21:50 Menche mainly pipeworks
21:50 Menche and pipeworks also has higher-res textures... *grumble grumble* people use 16x for default textures!!!
21:51 Uberi I heard something about the items looking ugly in 16px
21:51 Menche well it looks ugly when the sizes don't match. make it work.
21:51 sokomine exactly. they usually have an impact, but not that much
21:51 sokomine it's really strange. now, outside, 20 fps
21:51 VanessaE Menche: 16px textures on pipes look like total ass.
21:52 sokomine (that there is a decrese is perfectly normal for my hardware. it *is* a very old onboard card)
21:54 Hwkiller hm... can't build stairs now
21:54 Hwkiller again, what an odd problem
21:55 Uberi which game Hwkiller?
21:55 jojoa1997|Tablet is PilzAdam here?
21:55 Menche what all does dedicated_server_step affect?
21:55 Hwkiller Uberi: survival
21:55 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes
21:56 PilzAdam you read what I wrote above?
21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet is this fine? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82059#p82059
21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet no
21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i will see if i can get the direct link but could you please move that to games
21:57 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry i cant get a direct link.
21:57 PilzAdam I dont like two topics for the same game
21:58 jojoa1997|Tablet hmmmm...
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet do0 you update your topic anymore
21:59 PilzAdam yea, I can add your download links there
21:59 PilzAdam but it would be best if you move back to github
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet ok let me edit the topic to what i want you to add
22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet there i edited it
22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet could you add the changelog thing cause it is easier for me to copy and past from a template on tablet
22:03 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=34399#p34399
22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet also i suggest makin versions like 1.0 and 1.1 that way big changes can have 1>2 little changes can have 1.1>1.2 and bug fixes 1.0>1.0.1
22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet thanks
22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam check it out there are tons of changes but the main goody is
22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet the changeable gamemodes and the inventory
22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet also could you take some pics of the inventory in both modes and post them in a commenty
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22:10 kaeza bbl
22:12 sokomine could reproduce the low fps effect. going back from far view to short (35) did not let the fps go back up for me
22:12 Exio when i load a LOT of nodes/chunks/mapblocks and stuff and my FPS gets down to 20 or 30 (from 250)
22:12 Exio it works perfectly for me
22:13 Uberi 250 fps O_o
22:13 sokomine pass me some fps, please :-)
22:13 Exio hehe
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22:14 Kacey and me
22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet geez every minecraft map maker has decided to need to use adfly
22:14 sokomine the question is: why does it not go back up? it usually did. turning far view off helped a lot. now...no effect on fps
22:14 Menche 15:14:17: ERROR[main]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=1319 statically but block (7,0,6) already contains 49 (over 49) objects. Forcing delete.
22:14 Menche i get that when i shut my server down
22:14 Menche a *ton* of those messages
22:14 Kacey i get 50 (which is pretty decent) but lowstill
22:14 mauvebic entities
22:15 Kacey lots of vines on the ground near spawn
22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet it /me all alone on 0gb.us's server
22:15 sokomine oh, server shutdown did help as well. back to 20 fps! (with a static image)
22:15 mauvebic look at the mods youre running and check which ones add entities without removing them
22:15 sokomine i get similar messages as well in my singleplayer worlds
22:15 Menche mostly item drops
22:15 mauvebic item drops are done in lua right?
22:16 Menche an attempt to make vines decay caused a lot of it
22:16 Menche yes, in one of the builtin/ scripts
22:16 mauvebic okay so it should be easy enough to tweak to give em a timeout
22:17 Exio Kacey: i don't see a real difference when i pass the 60~70 FPS more than a "bit" smoother gameplay in very-very-fast situations..
22:17 mauvebic though it should really be default that after awhile item drops should disapear on their own
22:17 Menche yes. especially because clearobjects quickly becomes unusable
22:17 Exio but MT is not a FPS so i start seeing the "FPS drop" when i get under 40~45 FPS
22:18 mauvebic clear objects + item drops + every other mod that recklessly adds entities = major lag
22:18 Kacey back up yet?
22:19 mauvebic though i dont have problems with itemdrops, when they changed the dig behaviour i made an eraser tool
22:19 mauvebic removes nodes instead of digging
22:20 mauvebic though i wont lie, i prefer the old dig behaviour
22:20 Kacey Menche, restarted yet?
22:21 Kacey * Ping reply from Menche: 1.18 second(s)
22:22 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com
22:23 ShadowNinja Kacey: <@ShadowBot> menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.381ms)
22:23 Kacey i know
22:27 Uberi PilzAdam: I just noticed, your builds have different checkmark background colors compared to xyz's
22:27 Uberi it's slightly lighter grey
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22:33 jordan4ibanez what is the node_update function? or how do I use it
22:33 jordan4ibanez I can't find the api section for it any where
22:34 Uberi nodeupdate?
22:34 Uberi it's in default last time I checked
22:34 PilzAdam it in builtin now
22:34 PilzAdam just nodeupdate(pos)
22:34 Uberi oh neat
22:34 PilzAdam it updates falling nodes
22:35 mauvebic any chance of having a lightupdate(pos)?
22:36 Uberi would be useful for //fixlight
22:36 mauvebic especially with the latest difficulties
22:37 PilzAdam Im wondering if it would work to have a queue for worldedit so that it can be executed step by step in on_step()
22:37 mauvebic there are lua coroutines for that that work very nicely
22:37 mauvebic works in tandem with onstep
22:37 mauvebic or on globalstep
22:38 Uberi yeah coroutines could do it I bet
22:38 mauvebic god knows, implemented for binvox'es over a cubic kilometer in size lol
22:39 mauvebic fixlight could work with coroutines but
22:39 Uberi it would reduce the decoupling in the API though
22:39 mauvebic as c55 pointed out, the present method is too hackish
22:40 Uberi the digging air method? or the param1 modification?
22:40 mauvebic i use param1
22:40 mauvebic worldedit digs air
22:40 Uberi does that work? the param1 method
22:41 mauvebic yeah but its not faster
22:41 Uberi the original //fixlight used param1 modification
22:41 Uberi but it didn't seem to work back then
22:41 mauvebic both lag
22:41 mauvebic a light-specific api function might be best
22:41 Uberi yeah
22:41 mauvebic works for me
22:41 Uberi I'm thinking maybe it was a client stale data issue that got fixed in a later version
22:41 mauvebic people say it didn't work because it took a long time
22:42 mauvebic specially on those big server with 50+ mods
22:42 Uberi well dig is probably slower, it's got a lot more checks to do and even prints to the console
22:43 jordan4ibanez pilzadam
22:43 jordan4ibanez if not fakestack or fakestack:is_empty() then
22:43 jordan4ibanez itemstack:take_item(1)
22:43 jordan4ibanez nodeupdate(slabpos)
22:43 jordan4ibanez -- Else put old node back
22:43 jordan4ibanez else
22:43 jordan4ibanez line 140
22:43 mauvebic well, if youre digging air, then youre loading each node, and checking the name to begin with
22:43 jordan4ibanez it's a ghetto fix for the slab not updating when the server removes the slab and turns it into a full node
22:44 mauvebic tho the param1 method loads each node, and replaces it with one that has default param1 value, so... same difference lol
22:44 mauvebic it would be much better, and faster, if done in cpp
22:44 PilzAdam bye
22:44 Uberi yeah
22:44 Uberi wait wouldn't the default param1 value be wrong in some cases?
22:45 mauvebic probably, but you dont complain when the area is completely dark to begin with
22:45 Uberi true
22:46 Menche ...apparently it wasn't a good idea to compile minetest in the background. the server has lagged to a stop
22:47 NotReallyNick Yeah, that happened when I did it too.
22:47 NotReallyNick Not much can be done though, unless you want to shut the server down while it compiles.
22:48 Menche i have another computer with a pentium4; it has a higher clock speed but only 1 thread
22:48 Menche would that be any better?
22:48 Menche the current one has 2 threads and a lower clock speed
22:48 NotReallyNick Sorry, no idea.
22:48 rarkenin By 2 threads, don't you mean two cores?
22:48 rarkenin Well, what are the precise clock speeds of both? And RAM amounts?
22:48 Menche pentium4 only has 1 core
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22:48 Menche has hyperthreading
22:49 Menche the current one has more RAM, but that's never been a real problem
22:49 rarkenin Hyperthreading won't help much IIRC.
22:49 Menche so maybe the one without hyperthreading but with higher clock speed
22:49 Menche does have less RAM though
22:50 rarkenin As long as it has enough RAM, clock speed*number of PHYSICAL cores is a rough guide.
22:50 Menche think the pentium4 is too old to have multiple actual cores
22:51 Menche gaaa, my dog just jumped on my lap
22:51 Menche down!
22:58 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000
22:58 * Menche notices that Minetestbot is gone :(
22:59 Uberi noooooooo
22:59 NotReallyNick Get ShadowBot to help you on ##minetest-0gb.us.
23:01 ShadowNinja if you like I can have it join here
23:01 Menche ?
23:01 ShadowNinja I have a bot
23:02 ShadowBot joined #minetest
23:02 ShadowNinja ^
23:02 NotReallyNick He means if you want, ShadowNinja can talk ShadowBot into dropping by this channel.
23:02 Menche i know that
23:02 Menche tried it on your channel
23:02 Uberi he's gonna give ShadowBot an offer he can't refuse
23:03 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000
23:03 ShadowBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.298ms)
23:03 NotReallyNick !up menche.servegame.com
23:03 ShadowBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.282ms)
23:03 Uberi whoa 0.282 ms?
23:03 Exio take that as 282 ms
23:03 Exio not 0.282
23:03 Uberi aww
23:03 Menche bug?
23:03 ShadowNinja lol, that would be fast
23:04 ShadowNinja talk to sfan5 about that, he has the repo
23:04 Menche ShadowBot is based off of MinetestBot?
23:05 Exio ShadowNinja: ask for a botcloak :P
23:05 ShadowNinja yes, with a few custom modules
23:06 ShadowNinja Exio: would it use my account or a seperate one?
23:06 Menche what does it add?
23:07 Exio ShadowNinja: other account, cloaks are per account
23:07 ShadowNinja A bad work kick module (not active on this channel currently) and a opme command
23:07 Menche i think the lag is fixed
23:07 Exio and it would be unaffiliated/shadowninja/bot/<nick>
23:07 Menche on my server
23:07 Exio (an example? /whois nx)
23:07 ShadowNinja bad word*
23:08 NotReallyNick ShadowNinja: I was kicked for saying 'I don't understand the phrase "it's kind of a wash".'.
23:09 Menche IMO bad word detection should just notify a moderator and not take action on its own
23:10 Menche ...and my server randomly decided to stop announcing to the list
23:10 Menche oh wait, i disabled curl. duh.
23:10 * Menche goes to compile yet again...
23:12 * Menche hopes it doesn't have to recompile the entire thing just to relink curl...
23:12 Menche but it looks like it does...
23:12 Menche lol, ellipses are awesome...
23:13 Uberi ...
23:13 Menche the server list is magial
23:13 Menche *magical
23:14 Menche before my server got on, there were never more than 2 players on
23:14 Menche then when it got on, it always had 8+ players
23:14 Menche now it's off again, and it's just me online right now
23:14 Uberi all the new players and the casual players are joining from the server list
23:16 NotReallyNick Yeah.
23:17 * Menche urges his server to recompile faster
23:17 * Kacey wants an FTB server
23:17 ShadowNinja lol, seems my bot thinks the letter a is a bad word, good thing it isn't oped here
23:17 * NotReallyNick has no idea what "FTB" means
23:18 Menche FTP = ?
23:18 ShadowNinja but I don't see why it does
23:18 Menche *FTB
23:18 Uberi feed the beast, NotReallyNick
23:18 NotReallyNick It also thinks "bad" is a bad word.
23:18 Menche lol
23:18 ShadowNinja FTB = big minecraft modpack
23:18 * Menche is going to keep his discussions over here
23:18 Uberi it's like Technic, but actually gets permission from mod authors before including mods in the pack
23:18 Menche what's it stand for?
23:18 Uberi Feed the Beast
23:18 Kacey feed the beast
23:19 * Menche thinks that the server should print a warning when you enable server_announce without curl
23:20 NotReallyNick YES!
23:20 Menche would save a lot of guesswork
23:20 Menche like, "cURL unavailable, server_announce disabled" to stdout when it starts
23:21 Uberi Menche: wouldn't that get drowned out by the 23654785436245634563436245463345 other messages that get printed?
23:22 Menche it's fairly clean right after startup
23:22 Menche just the ascii-art minetest, a couple other status lines, and stuff printed by mods
23:22 Menche it gets messy when players join and load areas with entities
23:24 Menche there, back on the list :)
23:24 Menche and the lag issue seems to be gone
23:28 ShadowNinja ShadowBot is having issues at the moment and I don't want to spam...
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23:34 ShadowNinja fixed
23:39 NotReallyNick left #minetest
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23:49 khonkhortisan qrstuvwxyz
23:50 Guest74057 Yes, qrstuvwxyz to you as well.
23:50 khonkhortisan Didn't you see abcdefghijklmnop here?
23:51 jordan4ibanez NOPE
23:51 Guest74057 No, I didn't. I must have joined after that.
23:51 khonkhortisan no, before, it was a name change
23:51 Guest74057 Okay, Gambit. Got it.
23:52 khonkhortisan But you just highlighted.
23:52 Guest74057 Highlighted what?
23:52 khonkhortisan Guest74057, like this
23:52 jojoa1997|Tablet joined #minetest
23:52 Guest74057 Hey, Jojoa.
23:52 rarkenin Hello?
23:52 Guest74057 Hello indeed.
23:53 jordan4ibanez We should make minetest into a fps
23:53 * rarkenin will now greet jojoa1997 with randomized punctuation.
23:53 jordan4ibanez We can call it, test of spades
23:53 rarkenin Too close.
23:53 * Guest74057 doesn't like FPSs
23:53 Gambit I was testing something.
23:53 * rarkenin doesn't like anything that uses a ton of GPU power.
23:53 Menche NotReallyNick got boring?
23:53 khonkhortisan I want to trap the player in pipeworks and move myself around
23:53 Guest74057 NotReallyNick got too bothersome.
23:54 Guest74057 I'm still looking for a new name.
23:54 Menche all those numbers aren't bothersome?
23:54 rarkenin The numbers actually are.
23:54 khonkhortisan I don't like any computer that can't handle whatever I decide to throw at it
23:54 Guest74057 It was the style of speech that just HAD to accompany the name that was bothersome.
23:55 khonkhortisan That includes my computer
23:55 * Guest74057 throws a brick
23:55 * zerogigabytes watches the brick land in Montana.
23:56 Guest74057 I bet my server would survive a brick, too. It's a big metal box. The brick would kill my poor laptop though.
23:57 Guest74057 /nick *
23:57 jojoa1997|Tablet hi 0gb
23:57 khonkhortisan Is there a way to change your nick on only one channel?
23:57 Guest74057 Hey, Jojoa.
23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i new it cause you were so freindly
23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet also i just got on one sec chaacking logs
23:58 khonkhortisan I knew it because of the username shown on join
23:58 rarkenin Hi.
23:58 Guest74057 You can log in twice.
23:58 Guest74057 Other than that, not on my client, I don't know about yours.
23:58 rarkenin My computers would survive a brick since they're too far away from Oregon.
23:58 khonkhortisan N don't reboot universe
23:58 rarkenin ABout nicks, you can't IIRC?
23:58 rarkenin *..
23:58 Guest74057 Yeah, I don't seem to be able to change the "us_0gb" in my login data.
23:59 Menche shows up in your whois
23:59 Guest74057 Yeah, why is it in my whois? I dn't get it.
23:59 Guest74057 *Don't
23:59 rarkenin Ask at #freenode

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