Time Nick Message 00:14 mauvebic the whole topface of the titanic is covered in floor tile lol 00:16 mauvebic no animated flag mods? 00:22 mauvebic compare: http://604now.com/wordpress2012/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/titanic2.jpg 00:22 mauvebic and http://ompldr.org/vaTA1bA/screenshot_3698856590.png 00:23 NakedFury you could have tried giving at least the same poin t of view 00:23 NakedFury looks good 00:24 frogcrus1 Has anyone tried making a mod center? 00:24 sapier more than one person 00:25 mauvebic seriously lol 00:29 mauvebic and most of the serious modders have pages too 00:31 frogcrus1 It would be nice to have an official one 00:31 mauvebic dang 00:32 mauvebic theyre working on some sort of mod repo based on whats in releases 00:32 PilzAdam there we go 00:32 VanessaE mauvebic: all right damn it, plug the internet back in. 00:32 VanessaE :) 00:32 mauvebic dont rmember if opt in or opt out 00:33 PilzAdam ChanServ is still not repsonding 00:33 mauvebic i have to opt out since i rewrite/merge/split so often its not practical and i dont wanna offer support if ppl are distributing oldies 00:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSuSo60Pcss 00:36 mauvebic i wonder if they're coming back lol 00:41 mauvebic could almost go for a 3rd pot of coffee today lol 00:42 NakedFury resisit 00:42 NakedFury resist 00:42 NakedFury drink something else 00:47 mauvebic its weird, i have light & dark spots appearing in areas already generated 00:48 NakedFury thats minetest for you 00:48 NakedFury bringing random weirdness all the time 00:55 NotReallyNick Some of the random weirdness is even intentional! 00:57 NakedFury but the lightning has to be fixed 01:03 mauvebic V's moves water 01:04 mauvebic dunno about the other liquids 01:05 mauvebic naw dont play with finite liquids so i never accounted for it 01:05 mauvebic need the juice for other things than finite liquids lol 01:05 NotReallyNick I don't see any point to finite liquids anyway. 01:06 NotReallyNick They don't fit the style of the game. 01:06 PilzAdam bye 01:06 NotReallyNick Bye. 01:09 Exio about git in general my skills (from 1 to 10) is sqrt(-1) 01:09 Exio are* 01:14 jojoa1997|Tablet good news 01:14 VanessaE what? 01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i edited the inventory to allow people to change back and forth from crateive 01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet in minitest 01:15 VanessaE oh. 01:15 jojoa1997|Tablet but better news is i am learning how to make formspecs 01:16 jojoa1997|Tablet so now i might be able to make soomme dfor npc mod 01:17 jojoa1997|Tablet though i did get a good crafting pic and an arrow pic pointing 01:19 jojoa1997|Tablet http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/M/Minecraft/Everything%20else/Beginners%20guide/Minecraft%204%20-%20inventory%20and%20wood%20block--article_image.jpg 01:19 jojoa1997|Tablet see the arrow and the crafting word 01:19 NakedFury I havent played since 0.4.3 or .4 01:20 NakedFury is the ingame menu still the ugly black transparent? 01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet for what 01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest or miecraft 01:20 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest is still ugly 01:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i like minecrafts more 01:21 NakedFury minetest 01:21 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae how do i change the inventory background 01:32 NakedFury I think RealBadAngel was experimenting with that months ago 01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet ReakBadAngek ping 01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet ReakBadAngel ping 01:36 jojoa1997|Tablet does inventory unified diable creative 01:36 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: you just have to supply a proper image file is all 01:36 VanessaE I forget the filename though 01:39 bas0801 Please help with how to remove craft grid. 01:39 bas0801 is it part of the creative mod? 01:39 mauvebic yep 01:39 mauvebic its the 3x3 inv formspec entry 01:39 NakedFury the crafting grid from the inventory view? 01:40 Psychotic Anyone up? 01:40 Psychotic Guise. 01:40 Psychotic Check out who registered at the forum, probably a troll: http://imgur.com/wyoU1Qb 01:40 Kacey nope nobody is up 01:40 Psychotic_ Anyone see the link? 01:40 VanessaE link? 01:40 bas0801 I reduced the formspec inventory size to 3 slots, but it still picks up more... Can i reduce the amount of inventory slots? 01:40 Psychotic_ What point of view? 01:41 VanessaE ... 01:41 VanessaE oh that link 01:41 VanessaE saw it 01:41 VanessaE dunno what to say about it 01:41 bas0801 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681562/ 01:41 bas0801 this doens't work 01:41 bas0801 ItemStack& InventoryList::getItem(irr::u32): Assertion 'i < m_size' failed. 01:41 bas0801 error 01:41 mauvebic wasnt me, was doing the dishes lol 01:41 mauvebic i love leftover pizza but jesus christ you pay for it all night 01:41 mauvebic they make'em an inch thick in this town lol 01:42 Psychotic_ can i have some? il lgive you a free tank/ 01:42 mauvebic leftovers, all gone :p 01:42 Psychotic_ -_- 01:42 mauvebic besides you cant ship food through the post :p 01:42 mauvebic though youd be surprised how many people are stupid enough to ship drugs through it 01:42 mauvebic drivers usually steal it though and the sender dont dare complain lol 01:47 Kacey so is the new creative mode switching in 0.4.6? 01:50 bas0801 so i found this to set max inventory size... i think 01:50 bas0801 local inv = meta:get_inventory() 01:50 bas0801 inv:set_size("main", 8*4) 01:50 bas0801 but how to get player meta? 01:51 jojoa1997|Tablet who plays minitest 01:51 jojoa1997|Tablet MINItest 01:52 NakedFury jojoa what you did is possible in normal minetest too? 01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet it is a mod 01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet i just mess with the inventory def and changed half of it 01:54 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 01:56 jojoa1997|Tablet idk 02:03 jojoa1997|Tablet O.o 02:04 VanessaE that took a while 02:04 VanessaE that split happened half an hour ago. 02:06 ShadowNinja more like two hours 02:07 khonkhortisan If you kick or ban someone during a netsplit, they only have half a voice when it joins 02:07 VanessaE oh yeah, you're right 02:07 VanessaE I misread the timestamp 02:08 khonkhortisan I get a delay of four (4) seconds between singleplayer leaving the game and the luaerror being printed to terminal. Is this normal? 02:08 VanessaE not sure 02:09 khonkhortisan I'm using error("…") 02:10 bas0801 how to set size of the main player inventory? 02:11 VanessaE no idea 02:12 NakedFury source code? 02:12 bas0801 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2004062013%20-%2004%3A12%3A18%20AM.png 02:12 khonkhortisan somebody knows, the inventory I've seen 02:12 NakedFury you want to lower inventory size? 02:12 bas0801 this is what i have now. But i can keep on digging beyond the visible inventory 02:12 bas0801 yes 02:13 khonkhortisan ♩ 02:13 bas0801 has this been done? 02:13 bas0801 NakedFury, is it in the source? 02:14 Exio are you developing a "LittleTest"? :P 02:14 NakedFury dont know really. always thought to edit inventory size you needed to edit source code 02:14 NakedFury I always wanted to add another hotbar slot to have from 1 to 9 hotkeys but didnt know c++ 02:15 bas0801 I am developing civilization where it is hard to get tools and crafting is only possible with expensive nodes. Making shops and specialization essential 02:15 bas0801 Ty NakedFury 02:15 bas0801 Maybe i can find a hacky lua way to do this 02:16 khonkhortisan mesecon specialization, plumbing, smelting, I like the idea having all that separate. 02:16 bas0801 Atm i'm checking the 9th slot for nodes. If so it drops the node that is dug 02:17 bas0801 atm i'm working on very minimal inventory where you have only 3 slots. two for tools and one for carrying stuff. This opens doors for mods that allow logistics 02:17 NakedFury I would also like for nodes to drop like in minecraft if there is no space for them in inventory 02:18 NakedFury and for back packs or carrying items? 02:18 bas0801 later i will make mod that allow "factories" crafting nodes that craft when resources are available. 02:18 bas0801 autocrafter in pipeworks does this already 02:18 bas0801 I would however like to make some changes and maybe limitations 02:18 NakedFury would that also work like limiting weight? 02:18 Exio NakedFury: they drop if there is no space in the inv (atm) 02:19 mauvebic ooo, the people are back 02:19 mauvebic only took three loads of dishes 02:19 bas0801 Limiting weight. I like! 02:19 NakedFury the character can only carry 2 tools and 99 of same node. strong enough for that 02:19 bas0801 Tools weighing less then nodes... 02:19 bas0801 That would require to define weight per group or node 02:20 NakedFury I just meant that the way you want only 3 slots could work as if that was how much weight a character could carry 02:21 bas0801 Exactly. Only 3 slots carrying capacity 02:21 NakedFury and 2 most be tools or whatever you want? 02:22 bas0801 Whatever. i think 3 slots is enough limitation 02:22 NakedFury I could already see the player domesticating a donkey or mule to pull his cart with materials 02:22 bas0801 donkey mod. Are you up for it? 02:23 NakedFury not good with coding such complicated stuff 02:23 NakedFury but no animal would be needed if there was a simple human muscle powered cart that you pull or push around 02:24 NakedFury like the small construction cart workers push with sand or concrete or dirt 02:26 bas0801 haha, or coal powered 02:26 NotNickIsAway Or firewood owered. 02:27 NakedFury we got 3 types: 02:27 NakedFury http://www.masterfile.com/stock-photography/image/400-05026527/Hauling-a-cart-down-an-old-road 02:28 NakedFury http://www.swampyacresfarm.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Camel-Cart_India-1024x768.jpg 02:28 NakedFury that last second got cut dammit 02:28 NakedFury cammel pulled cart 02:29 NotNickIsAway Why not list them? Why make us follow links to each? 02:29 NakedFury http://gazettextra.com/photos/galleries/gazette-staff-flooding-photos/1825/ 02:29 NakedFury image is faster than searching words to describe them 02:29 NakedFury isnt a picture worth a thousand words or something like that? 02:30 NotNickIsAway Typeing "cammel pulled cart" takes less time, but whatever works for you. 02:31 NakedFury yeah but wanted to show how it would look in the game 02:31 NotNickIsAway It's worth a thousand words if you can get people to click it. I clicked the first, but then realized it was an image not the plugin you wrote, and didn't click the other two. 02:31 bas0801 I have an idea. I will fill all the inventory slots with invisible nodes except the first three 02:32 NotNickIsAway I don't really feel like spawning browser pages right now. 02:32 bas0801 Or first 8... as you can still use 1,2,3,4 and q to empty the first 8 02:32 jojoa1997|Tablet what have you made\ 02:32 jojoa1997|Tablet pics please 02:32 NotNickIsAway Shrinking inventory can be done. Hold on, I'll get the code. 02:32 arsdragonfly| bas0801 , furnaces in the latest have a new feature 02:33 NotNickIsAway On my server, we used to INCREASE inventory size, but it can be done in reverse. 02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 02:33 bas0801 that's good news! 02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i made the inven smaller for craft 02:33 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the new stuff for furnaces 02:33 arsdragonfly| bas0801,non-fuel blocks cant be placed in the bottom slot,no items can be placed in the output slot 02:34 NotNickIsAway minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) 02:34 NotNickIsAway player:get_inventory():set_size("main", 8*6) 02:34 NotNickIsAway end) 02:34 bas0801 am trying 02:34 NotNickIsAway That increases, but use a smaller number to decrease. 02:35 NakedFury smaller like ..., 2*3? 02:35 NakedFury what would that do? 02:35 NotNickIsAway Yeah. 02:35 jojoa1997|Tablet oh guess what 02:35 NotNickIsAway That would make the inventory size be six. 02:35 bas0801 That works! 02:35 NakedFury the first number is hotbar and second inventory? 02:36 bas0801 Thanks, NotNickIsAway 02:36 NotNickIsAway No. The hotbar is always eight. 02:36 NotNickIsAway 2*3 == 6, so the inventory size would be six. 02:36 NakedFury then to change hotbar would not be posible with lua? 02:36 jojoa1997|Tablet nonono 02:36 bas0801 Your contribution has been noted in the code comment 02:37 jojoa1997|Tablet the first is rows the second is collumns 02:37 NotNickIsAway Setting the inventory size smaller than eight causes weird hotbar errors, but you can get it down to eight without issue. 02:38 arsdragonfly| What if we make the slots in hotbar unable to get items? 02:38 arsdragonfly| like the output slot in the furnace 02:38 NotNickIsAway Then you will have blamnk spots in the hotbar, but no errors. 02:38 NotNickIsAway *blank 02:39 bas0801 Using player:get_inventory():set_size( requires the amount of slots to be larger than 7 02:40 NakedFury then I guess what I said about source was true 02:40 NotNickIsAway I thought it allowed lower numbers, but made the hotbar act strangely. Maybe that was fixed? 02:40 NakedFury to edit it to what you want without some weird hacky way do source code 02:40 Hwkiller I just tried adding the "farming plus" mod but it errors out with this: attempt to concatenate a nil value 02:41 Hwkiller it says it happens on line 28, which says: dofile(minetest.get_modpath("farming_plus").."/rubber.lua" 02:42 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make on mapgen mob spawner api 02:42 NotNickIsAway Okay. You need Minetest 0.4.5 or 0.4.6 to get the rubber file to work. 02:43 Hwkiller I have .4.5 02:43 NotNickIsAway I don't know what the issue is then. Sorry. 02:43 Kacey do you have farming installed? 02:43 NotNickIsAway Me? Yeah. 02:43 Hwkiller yup 02:51 Kacey updating minetest 02:52 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone make on mapgen mob spawner api 02:53 arsdragonfly| What's that for? 02:54 NotNickIsAway jojoa1997|Tablet: The regular on mapgen API can spawn mobs. 02:54 VanessaE mauvebic: I can confirm the mapgen/seed glitch you experienced, by the way. happened on my map too, but luckily it was way out in un-spoiled terrain 02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb how 02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet patebin.com 02:54 NotNickIsAway The same way you spawn ant entity. 02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet show me an example 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet have it spawn "mobs:skeleton" 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet but how do i spawn one 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont know where to look 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet or where axamples are 02:55 NotNickIsAway Take an example of mob spawning, and wrap it in an on_mapgen() function. 02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no entities are spawned in vanilla 02:56 Kacey falling sand/gravel 02:58 Kacey night 02:59 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81835#p81835 03:00 NotNickIsAway Building an API for that when there already is one will just cause lag. 03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet bu there isnt 03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet ubnless you can show me where an example is 03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet show me code 03:02 jojoa1997|Tablet please 03:03 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam skeletons are made for minitest 03:03 NotNickIsAway jojoa1997|Tablet: Yes, there is. Show me an exaple of a mob being spawned, and I'll edit it to spawn on mapgen. 03:03 NotNickIsAway All you do, is wrap it in an on_mapgen(). 03:04 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 03:08 jojoa1997|Tablet who thinks tnt should be added to default agaion 03:08 NotNickIsAway NO. 03:08 NotNickIsAway Everyone would get their buildings blown up. 03:08 NakedFury I think we should limit destructive stuff in default to water and lava and fire 03:09 NotNickIsAway Yeah, for sure. 03:10 * NotNickIsAway has perfected the art of picking locked doors in Minetest 03:10 sdzen dig around them? 03:11 NotNickIsAway No. Actually open them. Set the screwdriver to mode on, and click the top and bottom of the "locked" door. 03:11 NotNickIsAway *mode one 03:11 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc/blob/master/items.lua 03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i set the screwdriver mode 03:12 jojoa1997|Tablet to mde 2 03:12 NotNickIsAway Is that just the spawn code? I'm not digging around to find the spawn code, just to show you how to wrap in in a function. Show me JUST the spawn code itself. 03:13 NotNickIsAway Shift and click. 03:13 jojoa1997|Tablet line 316 03:13 NotNickIsAway The whole spawn is done in that line? 03:14 jojoa1997|Tablet no 03:14 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm] 03:15 NotNickIsAway Show me JUST the spawn code. I'm not going to hunt for it. Either wrap it in the function yourself, or show me JUST the part you need wrapped. 03:15 jojoa1997|Tablet 316-358 03:16 NotNickIsAway You tell me to use pastebin, but won't use it yourself? I'm not going to work with the whole file. JUST THE SPAWN CODE. 03:16 jojoa1997|Tablet i cannot paste on tablet 03:17 jojoa1997|Tablet super hard took a minute to get the link right 03:18 NotNickIsAway Okay. When you edit the code, all you have to do is wrap it in the on_generate() function. Other than that, it's exactly the same as manually spawning them. 03:18 jojoa1997|Tablet what light level is sunset 03:35 Menche is there a way to clear out the last poll to post a new one? 03:35 NotNickIsAway No, I don't think so. Sorry. 03:35 Menche can moderators clear the poll block? 03:36 NotNickIsAway By the way, I only knew you were talking about in the forum because I just read your post. 03:36 Menche it seems we can't delete our threads any more 03:36 Menche yeah 03:37 Menche can a moderator edit the old poll out of the post? 03:37 NotNickIsAway I'm not a moderator, I wouldn't know. 03:38 Menche any moderators on? VanessaE? 03:38 VanessaE hm? 03:38 VanessaE oh that, I can't. 03:38 VanessaE hell, I can't even do that for my own posts for some reason 03:39 Menche grr 03:39 VanessaE I had to have one of the other mods do it when I needed to delete one of my own polls. 03:39 Menche apparently it didn't time out 03:39 Menche so i'm stuck with that forever and forever now? 03:39 NotNickIsAway And we now officially know the forum's poll system is defective. 03:40 VanessaE Menche: naw, one of the other mods will do it, you just need to bring it to their attention 03:40 VanessaE I think thexyz fixed mine. 03:41 NotNickIsAway So they can, but you cannot? Odd. 03:41 Menche moderators have different privs? 03:42 * Menche doesn't know why ordinary members can't edit their own polls 03:42 VanessaE beats me. 03:42 VanessaE NotNickIsAway: yep. 03:42 * VanessaE is the black sheep of the moderator family :P 03:42 NotNickIsAway I've thought about that, and I think it's to avoid people editing the labels to chose the results. 03:42 Menche NotNickDoesn'tLookAway 03:43 VanessaE well maybe so 03:43 Menche we should at least to be able to reset/delete them 03:43 VanessaE but if you're running a poll, you have a pretty good chance of being able to manipulate the results anyway 03:43 Menche makes sense to not allow editing live 03:43 VanessaE or just ignoring the, 03:43 VanessaE them* 03:44 NotNickIsAway NotReallyNick keeps coming and going, and doesn't really feel like repeatedly editing his tag. At least with this tag, people don't really expect me to be here, and don't really think I'm ignoring them if I don't really answer. 03:45 * NotNickIsAway really thinks that was really to many "really"s. 03:45 VanessaE yeah, really. 03:45 Menche really? 03:46 Menche oh, really. 03:46 Menche you really shouldn't really overuse really, really 03:46 NakedFury would this work as a ingame cart? http://imgur.com/AUVwWQM 03:46 NakedFury made it now 03:46 NotReallyNick It goes with this new name though. 03:47 VanessaE NakedFury: double the number of faces on the wheels 03:47 VanessaE (make them more round) 03:47 VanessaE otherwise, that looks good 03:47 NakedFury ohh well I was trying to not make them round in case some nutjob purist of cubeness came around 03:48 Menche would square wheels be acceptible in the minetest world? 03:48 NotActuallyNick No, not really. 03:48 VanessaE NakedFury: who cares about those nutjobs? 03:48 VanessaE your mod, your design, YOUR RULES. :) 03:48 NotActuallyNick True. 03:48 VanessaE same reason I refuse to make my pipes look boxy in pipeworks. 03:48 NakedFury the idea will be that the cart would have a small-ish inventory and I would like for it visually change appareance when it has items 03:48 VanessaE (in fact, I've been considering radically increasing the number of boxes per, to make them more rounded. 03:49 NotNamedNick There. No more "really". 03:49 NotNamedNick Yeah, I don't follow some of the conventions in my plugins either. People can just deal with it. 03:50 NotNamedNick Hmm. "NotNamedNick" lacks the same meaning as "NotReallyNick". 03:51 Menche or you could just use your old "us_0gb 03:51 Menche " 03:51 Menche sans the line break, of course 03:51 Guest21098 "us_0gb" lacks meaning too, without the corect order and a dot. 03:52 Menche Ogb.us? 03:52 VanessaE Menche: can 03:52 VanessaE ca 03:52 VanessaE can't put a period in a username. 03:52 VanessaE (what moron put the ' next to 'enter'? :-/ ) 03:52 Menche oh 03:52 Inmate21098 "Ogb.us" has a different meaning altogether. 03:52 NakedFury ok then. question: do textures behave different in the game if things are round? would round nodes and things stress the renderer/engine/whatever? 03:53 sdzen s0ggybus 03:53 Inmate21098 The do take more effort for the computer to render, yes. 03:53 khonkhortisan My ' is diagonal from capslock 03:54 ChauffeR ` 03:54 mauvebic did someone ping me? 03:54 mauvebic scrolled up but cant see 03:54 ChauffeR do you use znc, mauvebic 03:54 Inmate21098 I didn't, but I can if you want me to. 03:54 mauvebic dont know what it is 03:54 ChauffeR ok 03:55 Hwkiller I wish I knew anything about coding; I'd love to contribute in some way 03:55 Hwkiller unfortunately, I know only some bash/zsh and R. 03:56 Hwkiller and know only english; I'm useless :p 03:56 mauvebic lua is easy as pie 03:56 mauvebic any experience with php/perl and the likes? 03:56 VanessaE mauvebic: 03:56 Hwkiller mauvebic: nope 03:56 VanessaE mauvebic: I can confirm the mapgen/seed glitch you experienced, by the way. happened on my map too, but luckily the damage was minimal and way out in un-spoiled terrain 03:56 Hwkiller the only thing I've done with php is modify some pre-stamped out code for a study I ran 03:56 Hwkiller and that was a little more than sed -e s// stuff. 03:57 _ All theshort punctuation names are registered. 03:57 mauvebic so your map_meta.txt was overwritten too :/ 03:57 VanessaE mauvebic: yes. restoring my correct seed was enough to arrest the problem. 03:57 VanessaE Nick: better stop that, you might get booted off the network for nick flooding. 03:57 Menche is Nick really Nick? 03:57 Menche for "nick" flooding. lol. 03:57 mauvebic Hwkiller you could always find a really simple mod and tweak that 'til youre confident enough to add/remove stuff 03:57 Guest88806 No. I'm not really Nick. 03:58 mauvebic restored the seed, had you changed anything else in map meta? i changed my beach/desert proportions on mine 03:58 Hwkiller mauvebic: maybe. I need to learn python this summer for research 03:58 Hwkiller so maybe then 03:59 Hwkiller I did take a course in java, but we didn't really do anything practical; all it did was get me used to the syntax of OOP 03:59 mauvebic OOP is more practical for core dev, and even there, used sparingly 04:00 Guest88806 I took a Java course too, but I'd already learne OOP from PHP. 04:00 Hwkiller my dream is to learn C if only to read code on the OS I'm running; that would be a cool thing to do. 04:00 Hwkiller but that is far and away above my skill set 04:00 mauvebic reading code's easy, understanding what it all does? hmm lol 04:00 Guest88806 *learned 04:00 Guest88806 What OS? 04:01 Hwkiller linux 04:01 Guest88806 Linux is only a kernal. What OS? 04:01 Hwkiller ... 04:01 mauvebic ugh, 5.9 kbps to D/L Britannic, might as well watch on youtube lol 04:01 Guest88806 Okay, never mind. 04:01 Hwkiller technically that IS the os... but anyway, I use arch32,arch64,ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu 12.10, fedora 14 (old server) 04:02 Hwkiller er, s/12.04/13.04 04:02 Menche oooh, Arch? 04:02 Guest88806 No, technically Linux isn't an OS, it's a component used by many OSs. 04:02 * Menche uses Arch 04:02 Hwkiller 3.8.5-1-ARCH 04:02 Hwkiller :) 04:02 Hwkiller but actually I'm in ubuntu more often, since that's what's on my thinkpad that I use for school 04:02 Menche the term "linux" is commonly used as "linux-based OS" 04:02 Guest88806 I'm on Ubuntu 12.04. 04:03 Hwkiller also, linux IS the OS 04:03 Hwkiller by definition 04:03 Guest88806 Yeah, but he said Linux is "technically the OS", but technically, that's wrong. 04:03 Guest88806 No, by deffinition, Linux is a kernal, not an OS. 04:04 Menche linux is the kernel, but usually, the term "linux" is used to refer to the entire OS and "linux kernel" to refer to the kernel 04:04 Hwkiller the collection of software that directs a computer's operations, controlling and scheduling the execution of other programs, and managing storage, input/output, and communication resources. <-- OS 04:04 Hwkiller i.e., exactly what the kernel does 04:04 NakedFury ok revised version: http://imgur.com/LlAnfTf 04:04 Hwkiller the userland is just cake 04:05 NakedFury when the carts inventory is empty the cart appears empty. when it has items it will show the boxes 04:05 Guest88806 Hwkiller: So you are saying all kernals are technically OSs, not Linux specifically? Okay, I can accept that answer. 04:05 Hwkiller yes.. NT is an OS 04:05 Hwkiller darwin is an os 04:05 Menche you'd have to use a ton of nodeboxes to get a really round wheel like that 04:05 NakedFury come on!!! 04:05 NakedFury you guys told me to change it a minute ago dammit 04:06 NakedFury I asked that 04:06 NakedFury if making it more round would cause problems 04:06 Menche i mean, that's fine, if you have some tool to automate the creation of all those nodeboxes 04:06 Menche would be pretty tedious and very difficult to type it all out 04:07 NakedFury no. in my case it would be the tedious and difficult process 04:07 Guest88806 More node baxes would case problems on weaker computers. 04:07 Guest88806 *boxes 04:08 NakedFury then would this wheels be better? http://imgur.com/AUVwWQM 04:08 * Menche would say a horizontal slice of Tonyka's 3d trunks would look good 04:08 Menche wait, will you be using an entity with a mesh? 04:08 NakedFury the problem I see in this cart is that I dont know if minetest lets specify texture to the sides I want 04:08 Menche if so, then using the round wheel will be easy 04:09 NakedFury im not using anything yet. just my design for now 04:09 NakedFury but I want to have animated wheel when it is moving 04:09 Menche do the red and green lines indicate that you made that in a 3d modeling program? you could use a mesh instead of a nodebox 04:10 NakedFury I used google sketchup 04:10 Menche can that export to .x? 04:10 NakedFury let me check 04:10 * Menche hasn't used sketchup for ages 04:11 NakedFury .dwg, .dae, .kmz, .3ds, .dxf, .fbx, .obj, .wrl, .xsi 04:11 NakedFury those are the default exporters 04:12 NakedFury I can check if there is a plugin for .x 04:12 NakedFury yes there is a plugin 04:13 Menche i don't know how to do it, but that is how the player models are done 04:14 mauvebic yay, found a version of the film that doesn't have cantonese subs all over the screen lol 04:14 Menche sketchup can export to .x? maybe it's time to pick that up again 04:14 NakedFury what film? 04:14 NakedFury with a plugin 04:15 Menche or learn blender... nah, not enough time 04:15 mauvebic Britannic, one of titanic's sister ships 04:15 mauvebic always hard to find made for tv stuff lol 04:15 Guest88806 So, does anyone have any suggestions for an IRC name? Guest88806 is too hard to remember. 04:16 Menche Ogb_us? 04:16 NakedFury ok the plugin works 04:16 NakedFury everything got exported to .x 04:16 NakedFury who are you? 04:16 NakedFury http://www.3drad.com/Google-SketchUp-To-DirectX-XNA-Exporter-Plug-in.htm 04:16 Menche Guest88806 = 0gb.us 04:17 NakedFury ohh then keep using 0gb or the NotNick something 04:17 Guest88806 It bothers me when people use an "o" in my name, I'm certainly not going to do it myself. Plus, ogb.us is a different domain than 0gb.us. 04:17 Menche i think, he was changing nicks so fast i lost track :P 04:17 Menche _0gb_us? 04:17 NakedFury stay with NotNickAlways 04:17 Guest88806 NotReallyNick was too much of a burden. 04:17 NakedFury or that^ 04:17 Menche ZeroGB-US? 04:17 Guest88806 .0gb.us makes little sense. 04:17 jojoa1997|Tablet _0gb_us 04:18 jojoa1997|Tablet .._ 04:18 Guest88806 zerogb.us is a different domain than 0gb.us. Trying to find a name from 0gb.us will not prove sucessful. A different sort of name would be easier. 04:19 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb 04:19 Guest88806 Yeah? 04:20 Menche names can't begin with a number or contain a period? 04:20 Guest88806 Right. 04:20 Menche or any sort of punctuation, it seems 04:20 Guest88806 So domain-based isn't the way to go. 04:20 Guest88806 You can use the or bar. 04:21 Menche thought that was called a "pipe" 04:21 or|bar Why the or bar thoug? I don't know. 04:21 or|bar Pipe. Yeah, that's what it's called. My bad. 04:21 _0gb_us see works 04:22 jojoa1997 lets everyone change to someone else's name! 04:22 or|bar I But it translates to ".0gb.us". Beginning my name with a dot makes no sense. 04:22 Jojoa1997 Registered. 04:23 * NotReallyNick is really confused 04:23 Menche yes, it's registered, but i could still use it 04:23 Jojoa1997 Oh? It looks like I get to keep this name. 04:23 Menche you could ghost me while i was using it 04:23 Jojoa1997 No. NotReallyNick isn't registered. 04:23 Menche /msg NickServ set enforce 04:24 Menche ? 04:24 Menche i think that protects it? 04:24 Jojoa1997 I was saying Jojoa1997 is regestered, not NotReallyNick. 04:26 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Hmm. One day, I'll find a good name. One that isn't taken. 04:26 Jojoa1997 what about No_Windows 04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu While I don't run Windows, that doean't really define me. 04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu *doesn't 04:27 Jojoa1997 No_Windows 04:27 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu True. 04:28 * WindozeSuks has to use /whois to figure out who's who :P 04:28 * Jojoa1997|Ubuntu is not really Nick 04:29 * Jojoa1997|Ubuntu is also not really Jojoa 04:29 Menche Jojoa1997|Ubuntu's whois contains "~us_0gb" 04:30 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu I have aliases, but if I use one here, it'll out them as me. 04:30 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu For example, when I used NotReallyNick, it killed my option to use it in-game. 04:30 Jojoa1997 0gb so you agree i am awesome by using my name thank you 04:31 Menche why couldn't you use it in-game? 04:31 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Of course you are awesome, but that's not why I chose your name. I chose it because you are the one who suggested we take other peoples' names. 04:31 Jojoa1997 actually that was menche 04:31 Menche that was actually me, but jojoa did it first 04:32 Jojoa1997 no 04:32 jojoa1997|Tablet i onnlyyyyyyyy wass trying to shoow 0gbb hee couuuuuuuuld have his name 04:32 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu My in-game aliases are for when I don't want people to know who I am. So if people know NotReallyNick is really 0gb.us, it doesn't make a good alias. 04:32 jojoa1997|Tablet __0gb_uss is a veery goood ccaniidatte 04:32 Menche jojoa changed to _0gb_us, so i changed to jojoa1997 04:33 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu I already lost one of my cool aliases too. 04:33 jojoa1997|Arch because taking jojoa's name seems to be the cool thing to do now 04:33 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu It takes me forever to come up with good ones, too. 04:34 Jojoa1997|Arch__ didn't quite line up with the others 04:34 mauvebic sweet found a U48 mesh 04:34 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Yes, all the cool people are named [jJ]ojoa1997]\|.* 04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Oops, malformed expression. 04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu But you get the point. 04:35 Jojoa1997|Arch__ you can still tell the original jojoa apart because the imposters use an uppercase J 04:35 Jojoa1997|Ubuntu Nice. 04:36 AsexyTunnelBuild Too long. 04:36 * Jojoa1997|SuSE joins the party 04:36 Jojoa1997|Arch__ oh dear 04:37 khonkhortisan ow_it 04:37 * Jojoa1997|Asexua is asexy, not sexy 04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ you bud like an amoeba? 04:38 imsexyandiknowit lol it is registered 04:38 Jojoa1997|SuSE how many Jojoas are we up to? 04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ i think 4 04:38 Jojoa1997|Arch__ if a bunch didn't change their names back :( 04:38 Jojoa1997|Asexua No, I don't bud. Human asexuality is a sexual orientation, not a method of reproduction. 04:38 Jojoa1997|SuSE transforming back to me… 04:39 khonkhortisan transformation complete. 04:39 jojoa1997|Tablet i am so awesome 04:39 jojoa1997 I'm the real jojoa1997. Oh wait, no I'm not. 04:39 khonkhortisan I'm the fake jojoa1997. No, really! 04:40 jojoa1997 WHO IS REAL, AND WHO IS AN IMPOSTER? 04:40 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i ghost someone from my name 04:40 Menche am I the real Menche? 04:40 mauvebic youre all facsimiles as far as im concerned 04:40 VanessaE well at least I know I'm real. 04:40 Menche /msg NickServ ghost [password] 04:41 VanessaE will the real jojoa1997 please stand up? 04:41 khonkhortisan I just saw all the similar names and jumped in without reading who started it 04:41 jojoa1997-Tablet Can't ghost me now. 04:41 * khonkhortisan sits down 04:41 * jojoa1997-Tablet sits down as well 04:41 * Menche assumes that jojoa1997-Tablet isn't the real jojoa 04:41 * jojoa1997-Tablet is not the real jojoa 04:41 jojoa1997|Tablet well i know i am the real me cause i can ghost others 04:41 khonkhortisan the channel logs will tell you the real ip 04:42 * Menche thinks about registering all the jojoa1997* spinoffs 04:42 khonkhortisan I call |SuSE 04:42 jojoa1997-Tablet I call *_0gb_us 04:42 jojoa1997|Tablet how do you add names to account 04:43 Menche [jojoa1997-Tablet] (~us_0gb@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net): Something other than Nick 04:43 Menche busted. 04:43 jojoa1997-Tablet and *|0gb|us 04:43 jojoa1997|Tablet how do you add names to account 04:43 jojoa1997-Tablet No idea. 04:44 Menche you know how to get the help for nickserv? 04:44 Menche /msg NickServ help 04:44 khonkhortisan I haven't even gotten a cloak yet 04:44 Menche /msg NickServ help register, etc 04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet Yeah, me neither. 04:44 khonkhortisan -just have to ask on #freenode, though 04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet If I can't get it myself, I don't really wan one. I hate to beg favors. 04:44 jojoa1997-Tablet *want 04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet _________ 04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet __________ 04:45 ________________ This name is TAKEN!? 04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet ________________________ 04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet ____________ 04:45 jojoa1997|Tablet cant get size right 04:46 Menche just put more than will fit, it will get chopped down to the max size 04:46 |||||||||||||||| Also taken? 04:47 Nameless Taken ..... 04:47 Menche lol 04:47 NakedFury just use jojoa97 04:48 * Menche has to do a /whois before believing anyone's username 04:49 Neku Taken? Aw. I wanted this name. 04:51 Menche http://rinkworks.com/namegen 04:52 Menche and so irc suddenly goes silent... 04:52 jojoa1997|Tablet http://rinkworks.com/namegen/fnames.cgi?d=1&f=%3Ci%7Cs%3Ev%28mon%7Cchu%7Czard%7Crtle%29 04:53 stephan5 that's pretty cool 04:54 NoiseErased Hmm. I know a cool abandoned name. 04:54 Menche and the one who looked up the name generator is the real jojoa 04:54 jojoa1997|Tablet familiar 04:54 Adarqet Naw, it's a great name, but doesn't fit me. 04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no 04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i am the real one 04:55 NakedFury updated my sketchup 04:55 Menche i know 04:55 * Adarqet 's cat is sitting on his foot 04:55 Menche [jojoa1997|Tablet] (~jojoa1997@user-0c6s5d2.cable.mindspring.com): jojoa1997 04:55 Menche /whois is awesome 04:55 jojoa1997|Tablet /who is awesome 04:55 * jojoa1997|Tablet is 04:56 khonkhortisan (someone uses cingular) 04:56 Adarqet Wow, jojoa. Wow. 04:56 * Menche is on cell data 04:56 * Adarqet has no cell 04:56 jojoa1997|Tablet grrrr 04:56 Adarqet Hmm? 04:56 Adarqet What's wrong? 04:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant remember who ardrqet was cause i dont have a face to match 04:57 NakedFury if I made the cart mesh, would I also need 2 meshes for empty and with items? 04:57 khonkhortisan Adarqet, comcast buddies! 04:57 Adarqet Adarqet is the guy who is now Lykos. 04:58 Adarqet I always forget the name of the place he lives, too .... 04:58 Adarqet He's Boris's cousin, I think. 04:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean server wise 04:58 Adarqet I know, me too. 04:58 Adarqet He and Boris built Frontier Town. 04:59 jojoa1997|Tablet that is what it was 04:59 LightYagami Aw. Taken. 04:59 jojoa1997|Tablet who is hummer313 omn youtube 05:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i know he is here 05:00 Menche that's jordan4ibanez 05:00 DarkYagami Okay, at least this name isn't taken. 05:01 * Menche is going to bed now 05:01 DarkYagami Good night. 05:01 * Menche has had enought of the nickname madness :P 05:01 Menche night. 05:03 arsdragonfly why not Oxffffffff+1gb.us :P 05:04 DiggerOfGraves That's not a valid domain. There's no reason for it to be a permutation of 0gb.us, unless done right. 05:05 DiggerOfGraves People keep suggesting names similar to 0gb.us, but why does it NEED to be similar to 0gb.us? That's all I'm saying. 05:05 NakedFury invent some name from things you like 05:06 NakedFury mine= im always gaming and using pc naked(or underwear) and fury because I like the hulk 05:06 NakedFury simple 05:06 Minetest When no one is home, I'm usually nude too. 05:07 NakedFury ok but you cant copy my naked part of the nick now 05:07 NakedFury its copyrighted and trademarked 05:07 NoNick I'm not trying to. 05:07 khonkhortisan eew when minetest.env:get_node(pos) is placed into a table, param2 can be modified in the table when passed by itself to a function, instead of the function's copy being modified. What am I missing? 05:07 NoNick Okay, no worries. 05:07 jojoa1997|Tablet NakedButt 05:07 NoNick Sorry, not sure. 05:08 NickReserved Ironically, this nick is NOT reserved. 05:13 khonkhortisan hi jojoa 05:13 khonkhortisan Hi Notch_|Tablet 05:13 mauvebic poop, does blender import sketchup files? found the RMS Queen Mary 05:14 NakedFury dont know but from blender to sketchup I think a plugin will do 05:14 khonkhortisan Try Collada 05:14 VanessaE RMS Queen Mary? Stallman is a drag queen? ;) 05:14 mauvebic ahh yes there is a collada version of it 05:14 mauvebic thanks :-) 05:14 NakedFury this accepts 3ds format 05:14 jojoa1997|Tablet going to bed cya 05:14 NakedFury yeah and collada 05:15 khonkhortisan googled blender import sketchup -> http://www.katsbits.com/tutorials/blender/import-google-sketchup-kmz-models.php 05:15 mauvebic i can import 3ds's, though they usually have a few tiny mistake 05:15 Node Good night. 05:15 jojoa1997|Tablet night 05:15 mauvebic khonkhortisan that a plugin for blender? 05:16 mauvebic it be tutorial, wonder if i can install sketchup in wine 05:16 mauvebic id hate to have to use the virtualbox 05:17 NakedFury if you do I can give you codes for the pro version 05:17 NakedFury or the torrentz link 05:17 mauvebic plain doesn't export? 05:17 mauvebic hmm at least win7 vdi is intact 05:18 mauvebic been so long lol 05:19 mauvebic though google warehouse seems to have the models in collada format, from what i gather i can import those directly into blender 05:19 mauvebic gonna need to build a big port lol 05:21 mauvebic Wow 100$ for a low poly mesh, what planet lol 05:23 khonkhortisan Those aren't some automatically merged polies, those were hand-crafted! 05:23 mauvebic found one called "Lustinia" (sp Lusitania) which is an exact copy of the titanic mesh i have lol 05:43 khonkhortisan sign (which is a boolean) = negative (also a bool) What happens? I got the poles reversed. 05:43 mauvebic hmm, don't quite understand, code ex? 05:44 khonkhortisan ok 05:45 khonkhortisan http://pastebin.com/KVBVASja 05:46 khonkhortisan lines 232, 264, 462 05:47 mauvebic crap was looking at getface lol scrolling to right place 05:48 mauvebic ah ok was looking in right place 05:49 mauvebic where is negative declared? 05:49 khonkhortisan I turn a face either clockwise or counterclockwise, then if the face I'm turning is on the negative side of the axis, I swap the rotation direction. I added another variable there to say whether it was on the negative side. 05:49 khonkhortisan 232/234 05:50 mauvebic doesnt seem to be local to the if statement 05:50 mauvebic but getface isn't working? 05:50 khonkhortisan It turned out to not be local, I don't know how, but anyway I got it backwards. 05:51 khonkhortisan "negative" says whether it's -axis, sign says whether it's +axis, and I set one to the other. 05:51 khonkhortisan I turn the green face, it says blue. 05:51 mauvebic this is with the 6d facedir? 05:51 mauvebic i wonder if RealBadAngel is around 05:52 mauvebic i have yet to tacke 6d for pipes lol (not sure i look forward lol) 05:52 VanessaE pipes will be a bitch to rewrite for 6d. 05:52 mauvebic seriously lol 05:53 mauvebic writing all the rules for them anyways 05:53 mauvebic connecting sides for each param2 lol 05:53 mauvebic gradual would be better, start with the standard facedirs, and move on to support all of them 05:54 bas0801 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5467 05:54 mauvebic i cant find anything wrong with the rubiks code though, RBA might be able to figure out :/ 05:54 bas0801 Finished something that works but still needs some tweaking 05:55 bas0801 Clearer formspecs 05:55 khonkhortisan Expect there to be facedir helper functions eventually. They'll pretty much be reqired. 05:58 mauvebic something that relates each face with param2 from default to its current val lol 05:59 khonkhortisan I have one function that rotates on axis, and another function that gives the equivalent of node.tiles for the rotated node. 05:59 mauvebic i *had* one that works for the 4d param2s 05:59 mauvebic *not 4d, standard i meant 05:59 khonkhortisan 4d, wow! 06:00 mauvebic 4 directions lol 06:00 khonkhortisan Actually, shadows are broken now 06:00 khonkhortisan They are put on the texture before rotation 06:00 mauvebic you mean the bright and dark spots? 06:00 khonkhortisan no, the graded shading on a face 06:01 khonkhortisan I have a 3x3 platform in the air, rotate it 180° Y, and the shadows on the bottom are pointing outward, instead of toward the center 06:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's a known bug. 06:03 khonkhortisan Is it older than 6d facedir? 06:04 mauvebic maybe the lighting/shadow system just hasn't been updated to match 6d 06:04 khonkhortisan But it messes up with regular Y rotation 06:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, it started with 6d I think 06:05 khonkhortisan I think it's just doing lighting before turning, when it should be done in the other order. 06:05 khonkhortisan Like it's actually writing to the texture or something like that. 06:05 mauvebic well theres a few things off with lighting lately 06:06 khonkhortisan I saw a picture of black spots 06:06 mauvebic nodeboxes, random dark/brightspots 06:06 mauvebic im all for supporting old hardware, but if theres a better way... :-) 06:08 khonkhortisan uhh, git push added an rsa host key for an ip address 06:09 mauvebic perhaps have legacy lighting and modern lighting 06:09 khonkhortisan then destroy legacy lighting when no one's looking 06:10 mauvebic lol 06:10 mauvebic well look at this way: i got one of the lowest ram counts here, and im not complaining :p 06:11 mauvebic i waste much more resources trying to fix shadows the traditionally hackish way 06:22 VanessaE off to bed 06:22 VanessaE (I hope).. night all 06:23 mauvebic good night, and good luck :P 06:23 mauvebic (not a bad movie either) 06:27 * khonkhortisan makes a rubiks cube, then forgets how to solve it 06:28 mauvebic lol add a cheat mode :p 06:46 khonkhortisan I'm working on it knowing when it's solved 07:00 mauvebic a fine looking Lusitania: http://ompldr.org/vaTA3eQ/screenshot_3726776841.png 08:09 Matsetes Hi! 08:09 Matsetes I'm trying the 0.4.6... 08:10 Matsetes How can I add dungeons and jungles? 08:18 Node Hold on, I'll get the setting for that. 08:19 Node Okay. First, open up minetest.conf. Then add this line. 08:19 Node mg_flags = trees, caves, v6_biome_blend, v6_jungles, dungeons 08:19 Node After that, start a new world, and it will have dungeons and jungles. 08:20 arsdragonfly do dungeons have hostile mobs inside? 08:20 Node No, not yet. 08:22 Matsetes Thank you very much. I will try 08:22 Node Yeah, no problem. 08:22 Matsetes ANd the floating island are already in? 08:23 Node To add the floating isles, you need to add somthing else before you start a new world. 08:23 Node I'll go look up what that is. 08:23 Node mg_name = indev 08:24 Node Add that, then start the world, and there should be floating isles. 08:27 markveidemanis Who wants to participate in my The Walls game? 08:27 Node It sounds interesting, but I'm not really into PvP action. I mostly just build and dig. 08:34 Matsetes Thanks 08:34 Matsetes markveidemanis: Me =) 08:34 markveidemanis Ok, it'll be up today i think 08:34 markveidemanis Not now though 08:35 markveidemanis FreeFull and TheLastProject were already on 08:35 markveidemanis Zeg, wanna do TheWalls? 08:35 Zeg9 Nop, sorry. Hi everyone 08:36 Node Hey, Zeg9. 08:36 Matsetes markveidemanis: Today? 08:44 Matsetes Hi Zeg9 08:44 Matsetes Where can be found dungeons? 08:44 Node Underground, mostly. 08:44 Matsetes How far? 08:45 Node Anywhere. 08:45 Node On the surface or down below. 08:49 Matsetes =( I cannot find any dungeon... 08:49 Node It took me a while to find one too. 08:49 Node Did you make sure to look in a world started after you added the settings? It won't work in old worlds. 08:52 Matsetes Yes 08:52 Matsetes Now I found one 08:52 Node Okay, good. 08:52 Matsetes They're quite little 08:52 IceCraft Good morning 08:52 Node They're bigger than they used to be. 08:53 Node Good morning. 08:55 Matsetes In wich version they were already on? 08:55 Node 0.3.1 09:00 Matsetes Ah, I have started using it later... 09:48 arsdragonfly I've just set up a server 09:48 arsdragonfly who'd like to try it out ? 09:48 arsdragonfly arsenalmp.no-ip.org 09:48 arsdragonfly idk if all the settings are correct 09:48 Jordach !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 09:48 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.545ms) 09:48 Jordach MinetestBot, thanks 09:49 arsdragonfly cool 09:49 Jordach arsdragonfly, MinetestBot with the command !up followed by a space then a server address will check whether its up or not 09:49 Jordach so 09:50 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 09:50 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (0.299ms) 09:50 Jordach is valid 09:50 Jordach but it always checks 30000 09:50 Jordach so: 09:50 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 31111 09:50 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:31111 seems to be down 09:50 Jordach any number after the address will go for a specific port 09:51 arsdragonfly cool stuff 09:51 arsdragonfly What are all the features of this bot? 09:52 sfan5 http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/7015550_460s.jpg 09:55 kaeza sfan5, lol 09:56 kaeza hi all 09:56 * Jordach slaps sfan5 for using 9gag 09:56 sfan5 :( 09:57 Jordach naughty! 09:57 Jordach no, still, 9gag is fine, except the OC Stealing 09:57 Jordach bbiab 10:00 celeron55 9gag = OC stealing 10:02 Node What is "OC"? 10:02 * sfan5 wanted to ask the same 10:02 ImQ009 overclocking 10:02 kaeza original content 10:02 ImQ009 :P 10:02 Node !up localhost. 10:02 MinetestBot localhost.:30000 seems to be down 10:04 Jordach celeron55, high five 10:04 Jordach highest amount of religion in whats your religion: minetesting 10:04 Jordach 3 counts (minetestology == minetesting) 10:05 Node Wow. Talk about obsession with the game. I thought I was bad, but at least I'm not part of a religion devoted to the game. 10:05 ImQ009 test just gotta test 10:05 ImQ009 test test 10:07 Jordach Node, i started it as a small joke 10:07 Node I take it you are one of the tree? 10:07 Node *three 10:08 Jordach yup, first to post 10:09 Node I saw the topic, but decided to avoid it. The same with another topic I saw recently. 10:11 Node People get so touchy about religion, I figured I'd play it safe. ☺ 10:14 Node Oh, hey. I found the Communistcraft symbol in my character map: ☭ 10:14 Jordach Node, awesome 10:15 Node Also, a very bent arrow: ☈ 10:15 Jordach Node, like most police officers! 10:15 Node Apperently it means "thunderstorm". 10:17 Node Marriage, divorce, unmarried partnership: ⚭⚮⚯ 10:17 Node Why do these things have their own symbols? 10:18 Node And there's about 50 Unicode arrows ..... 10:19 Node No, make that at least a couple hundred. 10:20 Node Who even uses these things⸮ 10:20 * Node needs to quit playing with the character map 10:44 kaeza arsdragonfly, you here? 10:44 kaeza had any luck translating? 10:45 arsdragonfly kaeza,I've been doing my homework all day:( 10:45 kaeza ah sorry :P 10:46 arsdragonfly going back to school soon since I'm a boarder :( 10:54 sfan5 !rev esrever 10:54 MinetestBot reverse 11:02 sfan5 !seen Jeija 11:02 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around. 11:02 sfan5 !seen kaeza 11:02 MinetestBot sfan5: kaeza was last seen at 2013-04-06 10:45:39 UTC on #minetest 11:03 kaeza :D 11:25 sfan5 !help 11:25 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 11:26 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils 11:26 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-04-06 11:26:44) 11:55 artur99 hi 11:59 markveidemanis artur99, wanna play TheWalls? 12:05 artur99 whats that? 12:07 markveidemanis This is a game where you start off in 1 of 4 sectors with a team, you have 15 minutes to build an awesome fort, once the timer ends, the walls are dropped and its an awesome team based battle 12:11 jojoa1997|Tablet Morning everyone 12:11 jojoa1997|Tablet VanessaE you there? 12:11 kaeza mornings 12:13 kaeza trying to compile MT with 128 MB of RAM >.< 12:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Lol 12:13 kaeza this thing takes forever 12:13 jojoa1997|Tablet Kaeza trying to code mobs with 3 hours of sleep 12:14 jojoa1997|Tablet Last night it took me an hour to code 60 lines 12:15 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, make some mob that is between a vombie and a DM in difficulty, strength, etc 12:15 jojoa1997|Tablet It is the skeleton 12:15 kaeza vombies are too easy to kill, and DMs are practically impossible to beat 12:15 Exio the cpu does the hard job 12:15 Exio intel atom 1gb ram - 30~ minutes 12:16 jojoa1997|Tablet oonl;y minecraft mobs 12:16 kaeza Exio, not if you have 128 MB where GCC must swap to/from disk 12:16 Exio x6 6100 ("slow and cheap" cpu) 4gb ram - 1~ minute 12:16 kaeza it's using around 160MB now 12:16 markveidemanis How do i get someone on a server to have no nameplate? 12:16 Exio kaeza: what distro? 12:16 kaeza debian 6 12:17 Exio i had *that* problem with <64mb of ram, for compiling with one thread 128 was k for me 12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet skeleton zombie cow and sheep are what i want to add before releaseing another minitest 12:17 jojoa1997|Tablet also i have to fix bonemeal bug 12:17 Exio and what cpu kaeza? :P 12:17 kaeza no idea :P 12:17 kaeza It's a VPS 12:18 celeron55 modern compilers assume there is huge amounts of memory available 12:19 jojoa1997|Tablet celeron55 do you play minetest anymore. someone said you moved on to other projects. 12:19 celeron55 jojoa1997|Tablet: i haven't played minetest except for testing purposes since almost 2 years ago 12:20 celeron55 well, a tiny bit; but not really 12:20 jojoa1997|Tablet i thought so 12:21 Exio i'd say most of the core-devs don't play MT "as much" as the players do 12:21 celeron55 Exio: most definitely 12:21 celeron55 some people find developing more interesting than playing and those end up developing rather than playing 12:22 Deivan I have a strong spaw of messages like "ACTION[ServerThread]: LuaEntitySAO at (-15.8,-4,41.7031) punched by LuaEntitySAO at (-15.8,-4,41.7031), damage 0 hp, health now 10 hp" in my terminal. :-o 12:22 kaeza Exio, apparently it's an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 12:22 Deivan Is a MOB bug? 12:23 Exio kaeza: seems legit, but as it is a VPS i understand :P 12:23 jojoa1997_Tablet hate it when internet goes 12:23 Exio and yes, there is a bottleneck, if you were using a 2003 CPU with 128 mb ram, .. but with that :P 12:23 Exio jojoa1997_Tablet: eat it 12:24 kaeza Deivan, seems so 12:24 jojoa1997_Tablet Exio eat what? 12:25 kaeza (not a bug, but an engine thing) 12:25 kaeza ....hrm 12:25 jojoa1997_Tablet celeron55 i used to play minetest all the time now i mostly code mods 12:25 kaeza nevermind looks like a but with MOBs 12:25 kaeza bug* 12:25 Deivan Well... I have many imortal mobs runing here :-/ 12:25 Exio jojoa1997_Tablet: mods != core 12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet your right devs are the ones who stop playing but always know what is adde 12:26 kaeza Exio, 424.049 MHz 12:26 kaeza >.< 12:26 Exio kaeza: lol 12:26 Exio i should try to compile in my phone... 12:26 Deivan :-o 12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet i know/nick jojoa1997|Tablet 12:26 jojoa1997_Tablet can someone type my nick in all lower case 12:26 Exio kaeza: 600 mhz / armv6 - 192 mb ram 12:27 jojoa1997_Tablet i want to test name highlight 12:27 Exio (all in use because android) 12:27 Zeg9 JOJOA1997_TABLET 12:27 kaeza hey Zeg 12:27 sfan5 thats not lower case 12:27 Zeg9 Hi. 12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet it works 12:28 Zeg9 I know it isn't lower case. Wanted to know how he would react, but no reaction about this... 12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet yes reaction 12:28 jojoa1997|Tablet you name got green 12:29 * jojoa1997|Tablet sighs 12:30 jojoa1997|Tablet nothing like good old walmart french bread to start the day 12:30 jojoa1997|Tablet that and red baron microwzavable pizza 12:31 jojoa1997|Tablet with BACON AND EGGS 12:31 jojoa1997|Tablet what are all of your favorite foods/meals time foods 12:33 kaeza my breakfast was a good Phillip Morris 12:33 jojoa1997|Tablet what is that 12:33 jojoa1997|Tablet not familiar with it 12:33 kaeza you don't need to know 12:33 kaeza maybe when you're older 12:33 kaeza ...or just GIYF :D 12:34 jojoa1997|Tablet baron pizza on the box hate it when internet goes 12:34 jojoa1997|Tablet baron pizza on the box https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTosg0NnRlVvSYW6RCqSFm05vqokEeIZ4p3ZrcKWLKwyRmA9WqR 12:35 jojoa1997|Tablet in real life https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGPaMq6znNTtB32aJjoaigl347_l6zPpdK4f7_GKh179dRGjgm 12:35 jojoa1997|Tablet both super good 12:36 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone interested in doing a mod like the tinas map 12:36 jojoa1997|Tablet except for food items 12:36 Exio kaeza: he is too young for those things (?) 12:37 RealBadAngel hi all 12:37 Exio hey RBA 12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet is tobbacco legal in brazil(where kaeza is) 12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm it is legal here 12:38 kaeza wut 12:38 jojoa1997|Tablet io looked up phillup morris and that was what i got it is tobacco 12:39 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, Uruguay, not Brazil 12:39 Exio wtf 12:39 Exio brazil 12:39 kaeza Exio, brasil en ingles :) 12:39 kaeza err... Brasil 12:39 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry confused with another person 12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet thought they were urugay 12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet thought they were uruguay 12:40 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, and Mexico is part of the US. sure 12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet it is 12:40 Exio kaeza: ik, but wtf, since when people uses "spanish" in brazil :P 12:40 jojoa1997|Tablet we own an ich of their land 12:41 jojoa1997|Tablet lol i meant inch 12:41 Exio what is an inch? 12:41 kaeza pulgada 12:41 Exio kaeza: i mean, what is an inch in a less insane system? 12:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 2.54 cm 12:42 sfan5 !c 1 inch in cm 12:42 MinetestBot 2.54 centimeters 12:42 jojoa1997|Tablet us is stupid for being the only country that does not use M 12:42 sfan5 ! 1 mile in m 12:42 sfan5 woops 12:42 sfan5 !c 1 mile in m 12:42 MinetestBot 1 609.344 meters 12:42 Exio i know, i'm trolling all the people who uses that stupid and insane system 12:43 * kaeza highfives jojoa1997|Tablet for that comment 12:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 1 mile in in 12:43 MinetestBot 63 360 inches 12:43 jojoa1997|Tablet !c 1 mile in ft 12:43 MinetestBot 5280 feet 12:43 kaeza !c 1 in in in 12:43 MinetestBot 1 inch 12:44 kaeza !c 1 px in mile 12:44 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet US USE THE METRIC SYSTEM. ONE CM = ONE HUNDRED MM. !!!BRILIANT!!! 12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet idiot i spell brilliant wrong 12:44 kaeza 1cm == 100mm?? WTF?? 12:44 celeron55 :D 12:44 jojoa1997|Tablet iu think 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet 10 mm 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet hi rarkenmin 12:45 sfan5 !c 1 feet in m 12:45 MinetestBot 0.3048 meters 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet koin 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 12:45 sfan5 !c 1 mile in feet 12:45 MinetestBot 5280 feet 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet !c idoits in America 12:45 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:45 jojoa1997|Tablet oh yeah 12:46 kaeza 1: jojoa1997|Tablet :D 12:46 MinetestBot kaeza: wut? 12:46 kaeza dafuq 12:46 jojoa1997|Tablet loo it knows your are wronmg 12:47 jojoa1997|Tablet !c nuerons in keaza's brain 12:47 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:47 sfan5 !c 1 px in cm 12:47 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:48 sfan5 !c 1 px in in 12:48 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:48 sfan5 !c 1 pixel in cm 12:48 MinetestBot ... 12:48 Jordach !c 1 penis in cm 12:48 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:48 Jordach :P 12:48 sfan5 :D 12:48 jojoa1997|Tablet way to make it dirty 12:48 Exio sfan5: ? pixel in cm? wat 12:48 kaeza lol 12:48 Exio that depends of dpi (afaik) 12:48 sfan5 !c 1 dpi in cm 12:48 MinetestBot ... 12:48 Exio and would end on mm^2 12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet <+MinetestBot> yes 12:49 MinetestBot jojoa1997|Tablet: wut? 12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet !c is minetest better than minecraft 12:49 MinetestBot Sorry, no result. 12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet !c is minecraft better than minetest 12:49 MinetestBot ... 12:49 jojoa1997|Tablet <+MinetestBot> yes 12:49 kaeza !g sdzen 12:49 MinetestBot kaeza: http://www.sdzen.com/ 12:50 sfan5 !g stderr 12:50 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdio/stderr/ 12:50 sfan5 !help 12:50 Exio aand this got spammy 12:50 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 12:50 kaeza !rm -fr /* 12:50 kaeza :D 12:51 jojoa1997|Tablet !hex tootles 12:51 MinetestBot 746f6f746c6573 12:52 sfan5 !b16e tootles 12:52 MinetestBot 746F6F746C6573 12:52 Zeg9 Hi again... 12:52 sfan5 hi 12:52 jojoa1997|Tablet !b 10e tootles 12:53 Zeg9 Any good mod for crafting dyes (but from something logical, like flowers) 12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet Hi all! 12:53 sdzen we like to think of ourselves as better 12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet yes unified dyes 12:53 jojoa1997|Tablet !b 4e tootles 12:53 Taoki Hi. When creating an item in a Lua mod, is it possible to make that item not appear in the Creative inventory? 12:54 Taoki Like a flag for that sort of thing 12:54 jojoa1997|Tablet YES 12:54 sdzen not_in_creative_inventory? 12:54 sdzen I tihnk 12:54 kaeza in groups 12:54 jojoa1997|Tablet not_in_creative_inventory = 1 12:54 kaeza groups={not_in_creative_inventory=1} 12:54 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: wtf?! are you doing? 12:55 Taoki thanks 12:57 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81914#p81914 12:57 Zeg9 Unified dyes looks a bit huge imo... 12:59 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org 12:59 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.218ms) 12:59 kaeza wot 12:59 jojoa1997|Tablet !down kaeza.no-ip.org 13:00 GhostlyDeath If you change a mod 13:00 GhostlyDeath Do you need to destroy and create a new world? 13:00 sfan5 !tw @jordansnelling 13:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id 13:00 sfan5 !tw jordansnelling 13:00 MinetestBot @OboAllTogether Thank fuck for that, I dont often see people like that! :D (@jordansnelling) 13:06 jojoa1997|Tablet ?>. Thanks anyway 13:18 rarkenin Zeg9: They are licensed under Creative Commons Zero. It is pretty close to WTFPL, just has a nicer name. 13:19 Zeg9 ok. Then I'll add this to the readme 13:19 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, like this? http://pastebin.com/26sidLdB 13:20 jojoa1997|Tablet kinda 13:20 jojoa1997|Tablet i decided i had to manually enter it since trees wiol grow different from papy 13:22 kaeza PilzAdam, any comments on my pull request? 13:22 PilzAdam wich one is it? 13:23 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/604 13:23 PilzAdam dunno 13:23 PilzAdam Im have not many experiece with cmake 13:23 PilzAdam -m 13:24 kaeza I have tested and works as expected 13:24 kaeza I made it because I build both run in place and non run in place version 13:24 kaeza using the same source tree 13:25 kaeza Zeg9 seems to like that one, and I think other people may find that useful 13:26 Exio +1 kaeza 13:27 Exio i use a separate build directory 13:27 jojoa1997|Tablet who knows how cactus works in minecraft 13:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i do but needs hep with code 13:28 Exio i know, what is the problem? 13:28 jojoa1997|Tablet http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cactus 13:29 Exio so... 13:29 jojoa1997|Tablet i need to figure out how to get cactus to only place on sand andnot be able to be placed next to eachother 13:29 Exio on_place, and play with the coords, . 13:29 Exio , and so. 13:29 Exio * 13:30 rarkenin I'll be back soon. If anyone needs me, just ping me. 13:31 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 13:31 jojoa1997|Tablet also snapshot skeletons are made and bonemeal workiong 13:45 * Jordach pokes PilzAdam with BF4 13:45 PilzAdam I 13:45 PilzAdam WANT 13:45 PilzAdam THAT 13:45 PilzAdam NOW! 13:46 Jordach PilzAdam, go to your dashboard, and look for the AD 13:46 Jordach EPIC TRAILER. 13:46 Kacey !up kaeza.no=ip.org 13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no=ip.org:30000 seems to be down 13:46 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org 13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.267ms) 13:46 Jordach !up kaeza.no-ip.org 13:46 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.150ms) 13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 13:49 Kacey PilzAdam, is it true that you made a way to switch between creative and survival in-game? 13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet no 13:49 PilzAdam no 13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry thought it was me 13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet well i did 13:50 Kacey there should be 13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet it is only for minitest though but can be edited for regular 13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam wait till you see the new inventory 13:50 jojoa1997|Tablet i think you should add some of it to default 13:51 Kacey kaeza, you around? 13:51 kaeza yep 13:51 jojoa1997|Tablet help 13:51 Kacey alright 13:52 Kacey i am trying to connect to your server 13:52 PilzAdam kaeza, you were working on the translation on mods, right? 13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i have a funstion 13:52 kaeza ah it's not finixhed yet 13:52 kaeza I'm finding some useful mods to put in 13:53 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org 13:53 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.762ms) 13:53 Kacey jeez 1 second 13:53 jojoa1997|Tablet http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682886/ 13:54 kaeza PilzAdam, yes 13:54 kaeza more or less 13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet i have changed the papyrus abm to be a function default.grow_reeds 13:54 Kacey really laggy 13:54 PilzAdam kaeza, do you have anything achieved yet? 13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet well the function part of the abm 13:54 Kacey i don't even have build lol 13:55 kaeza PilzAdam, auto translation of node/utem names 13:55 kaeza item* 13:55 jojoa1997|Tablet can someone help me 13:55 kaeza I'm figuring how to tackle formspec translation 13:56 Jordach ugh, lucozade tastes like crap but gives a good energy boost 13:56 kaeza Kacey, maybe because of mesecons+technic 13:56 kaeza dunno 13:57 kaeza should I remove them? 13:57 sfan5 everybody seems to ignore the localization mod I made 13:57 sfan5 :( 13:57 Jordach sfan5, huh 13:57 PilzAdam sfan5, yes, because its server side 13:57 jojoa1997|Tablet i wouod use it but hav no use 13:57 sfan5 PilzAdam: you can easily port it to client side, by changing 1 line (in the best case) 13:57 kaeza same reason why mine got ignored at first 14:01 kaeza celeron55, can you link your branch that sends the strings to the client? 14:01 markveidemanis come see my mod: markmt.strangled.net 14:02 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129 14:02 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.311ms) 14:03 Kacey come play with moretrees with me ^_^ 14:06 markveidemanis Come see my step-by step house destroyer mod 14:06 markveidemanis come see my mod: markmt.strangled.net 14:14 Exio hi hmmmm 14:14 Zeg9 !up markmt.strangled.net 14:14 MinetestBot markmt.strangled.net:30000 is up (0.464ms) 14:14 hmmmm i think that bot is wrong 14:15 hmmmm it always seems to return a value under 1ms 14:15 Kacey !up kaeza.no-ip.org 14:15 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (1.701ms) 14:15 hmmmm probably the number is in seconds but the output is labeled as milliseconds 14:15 Kacey not always 14:15 Jordach hmmmm, nope 14:15 Jordach !up jordachscity.tk 14:15 MinetestBot jordachscity.tk:30000 is up (1.399ms) 14:16 hmmmm minetestbot doesn't have some sort of magical internet connection where latencies are always that low 14:16 hmmmm it's off 14:17 hmmmm just FYI, to get a ping below 1ms, you pretty much have to be on the same LAN 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet zeg nive 14:17 Zeg9 Hi 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet ton the server 14:17 Zeg9 jojoa nineteen ninty seven 14:17 jojoa1997|Tablet on 14:17 PilzAdam hmmmm, MinetestBot hackes himself into all the LANs 14:17 PilzAdam *itself 14:18 Zeg9 Did someone report yet that waiting for content thing doesn't show "[ ] Node definitions" and others when freetype is enabled? 14:18 PilzAdam new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 14:19 PilzAdam Zeg9, yes 14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet haha 14:19 PilzAdam although there is no issue on GitHub yet 14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet you are sent to jail zrg 14:19 jojoa1997|Tablet what is after math 14:20 PilzAdam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath 14:20 PilzAdam "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath" :D 14:21 PilzAdam *"Aftermath, a 2012 DLC for Battlefield 3" 14:21 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean in relation to the build 14:22 PilzAdam the aftermath of the release 14:25 rarkenin !up 0gb.us 14:25 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 seems to be down 14:25 rarkenin !up minetest.net 30015 14:25 MinetestBot minetest.net:30015 seems to be down 14:26 Exio 64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.551 ms 14:27 Exio the response of my router 14:27 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet skeletons have been spawning but i forgot to 14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet change the name of the def 14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam for a weak monster like skletons what would be the best atack 14:28 jojoa1997|Tablet levels 14:28 Leoneof is there a way to play old version of minetest online 14:30 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, how much damage do they in MC? 14:33 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 14:34 markveidemanis Who wants to BUILD on my server 14:34 kaeza Leoneof, err... what? 14:34 kaeza wrong channel 14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Skeleton 14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ^ 14:35 jojoa1997|Tablet me 14:36 Leoneof kaeza: no, i've compiled/installed minetest from git, but i get segfault, i can only run old version 14:37 kaeza Leoneof, you need to find a 0.3.1 server 14:37 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i would say 2-4 hearts 14:40 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, read the setting "difficulty" from minetest.conf, default to "normal" 14:41 jojoa1997|Tablet we have setting difficulties in minetest? 14:41 PilzAdam no 14:41 PilzAdam but we will have in minitest 14:41 Kacey markveidemanis, i want to have all privs on your server 14:41 jojoa1997|Tablet uh 14:42 markveidemanis Why? 14:42 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant do that 14:42 Exio why not? 14:42 jojoa1997|Tablet same here 14:45 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5326327 14:45 PilzAdam do this for all the damage things 14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam your api does not do this 14:49 Taoki What's the LUA function to get time of day / sun position? Hard to search for it in the API since it doesn't contain the words sun or daytime 14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet ttry time 14:49 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, what? what is "my API"? 14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet mobs 14:49 Taoki Just time? What is it part of, etc? 14:49 Taoki The function I mean 14:49 jojoa1997|Tablet you know simple mobs 14:50 jojoa1997|Tablet taoki idk 14:51 Taoki Oh, get_timeofday 14:51 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, dont add mobs yet 14:54 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam i added skeletons only 14:54 jojoa1997|Tablet for bones 14:58 * Jordach thinks minitest should use default textures 14:58 jojoa1997|Tablet no 14:58 jojoa1997|Tablet it is meant to be minecraft for minetest 14:58 Jordach PilzAdam, during 22/1/12 (i made the original gamemode) 15:00 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach what was that 15:00 Jordach Minecraft 4 Minetest 15:00 Jordach when minetest didnt have game modes 15:01 PilzAdam Jordach, thats a texture pack 15:01 Jordach PilzAdam, go check out V1 15:01 Jordach and grab this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/0.4.dev-20120122-1 15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet jordach we have made your way better 15:02 jojoa1997|Tablet from your v1 15:02 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, i recreated the basics with a modified moreores 15:02 Jordach and created the first incarnation of wool 15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet ok cool and now it is in minetest_game wioth no waY TO GET IT 15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet VERY USEFUL 15:05 jojoa1997|Tablet SORRY CAPS 15:12 TheLastProject ARE YOU SO SORRY YOU HAD TO SAY YOU WERE SORRY IN CAPS?!?! 15:22 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 15:23 jojoa1997|Tablet who plays minecraft 15:24 jojoa1997|Tablet does anyone know where that textures for spawn eggs are? 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam ping 15:25 PilzAdam pong 15:25 jin_xi hey all 15:25 jojoa1997|Tablet with armor it would be best touse minecrafts way of aking armor 15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean the texture 15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet the armor is all on one file\ 15:26 jojoa1997|Tablet that and a way to show what someone is holding is needd 15:27 PilzAdam just use ^ to overlay the textures could work 15:27 jojoa1997|Tablet start on the inventory when i release the next version 15:27 jojoa1997|Tablet it has changed 15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe add buttons to go to other views like inven+ 15:28 PilzAdam no 15:28 PilzAdam make it 100% like MC 15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i did 15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet except i can make it 100% more like 75% 15:28 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft has tabs that i cant code 15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet though i made it as much as minecraft as possible 15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet so the inventory mod isnt needed 15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet cause i merged it with another 15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet i changed the other inven mod to inven 15:31 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: the spawn egg textures are generated on runtime 15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet do you know where i could get some? 15:32 sfan5 you can take them from texture pack, but 99% of the mc texture pack authors forbid using textures in any other way 15:33 Calinou (the 1% of the time: CC BY-NC-ND) 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft people are idiots 15:36 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Add Dijkstra A* and A* without prefetching pathfind algorithms 69367aa799 2013-04-06T08:24:03-07:00 http://git.io/viMOqg 15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet they are so worried about their stuff getting stolen while stinting growth 15:37 Calinou suddenly: adfly 15:37 Calinou that thing GOT famous thanks to minecraft in 2011 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 15:37 Calinou prior to 2011 noone knew WTF adfly was 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet simple have your mod say made by 15:37 * Jordach waves a BF4 Beta Key in PilzAdam's face 15:37 jojoa1997|Tablet like 20 times 15:38 * Calinou waves a TF3 beta key in Jordach's face 15:38 Calinou it will have a new class: "Semi-automatic pistol troll" 15:38 jojoa1997|Tablet found it 15:38 NakedFury jordach you enemy! giving in to your petty desires and supporting dice and ea in their shit demolition of a great series in the name of money and competition with call of duty 15:38 * PilzAdam waves a Minetest beta key in Calinou's face 15:39 * sfan5 waves air 15:39 * kaeza waves CONTENT_IGNORE 15:40 PilzAdam kaeza, ** Error: main: not allowed to wave CONTENT_IGNORE 15:40 * Calinou waves default:cloud 15:40 * NakedFury waves the middle finger at you all yelling trolls 15:40 * sfan5 waves default:wood 15:40 * Calinou waves a GTX 480 15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves /shutdown 15:40 Calinou you're all set on fire now 15:40 * PilzAdam waves a GTX 460 15:40 * sfan5 waves an Intel Core i5-2410 15:40 kaeza PilzAdam, :D 15:40 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves jojoa1997 15:40 * Calinou waves 2×4GB of 3000mhz corsair RAM 15:40 * Calinou steals sfan5's pocket 15:41 NakedFury kill the waved jojoa! 15:41 * sfan5 has no pocket 15:41 * Calinou steals sfan5's underwear then 15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet waves /jojoa1997 waves /jojoa1997 waves /jojoa1997 waves /... 15:41 sfan5 D: 15:41 Calinou you put your money there >:D 15:41 * jojoa1997|Tablet steals Calinou's wallet 15:41 * sfan5 waves bucket:bucket_lava 15:42 * jojoa1997|Tablet steals sfan5's identity 15:42 sfan5 D: 15:42 kaeza * sfan5 wants to watch the world burn 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet ok real talk now 15:42 * Calinou waves a dark rock pro 2, throws it on kaeza 15:42 * PilzAdam watches meldiran finding mese 15:42 PilzAdam *meldrian 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet STOP 15:42 Jordach why do i start something and it grows infinitely 15:42 * Calinou watches freenode staff griefing a minetest server 15:42 Calinou Jordach: that's what she said 15:42 kaeza lol 15:42 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items 15:43 MinetestBot Minetest beta key: 74726F6C6C6F6C6C6F ( tip: !b16d ) 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items 15:43 PilzAdam !b16d 74726F6C6C6F6C6C6F 15:43 MinetestBot trollollo 15:43 * sfan5 wins 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet is it possible for me to tint items 15:43 jojoa1997|Tablet ANSWER ME 15:44 NakedFury ohh the banhammer is coming! 15:44 PilzAdam 68747470733A2F2F7777772E796F75747562652E636F6D2F77617463683F763D6F486735534A5952484130 15:44 NakedFury boom it fell! 15:44 PilzAdam (!b16d) 15:44 NakedFury the lesser kickhammer 15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet please someone answer me 15:44 Calinou how can a tablet user spam 15:44 Calinou jojoa1997|Tablet: with separate textures, yes 15:44 Calinou with only one texture, no 15:44 jojoa1997|Tablet keyboard 15:45 jojoa1997|Tablet bluettooth 15:45 sfan5 !b16d 68747470733A2F2F7777772E796F75747562652E636F6D2F77617463683F763D6F486735534A5952484130 15:45 MinetestBot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 15:45 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet ^ 15:45 Calinou wireless ftl 15:46 jojoa1997|Tablet not for mobile 15:46 markveidemanis Hi 15:47 Calinou for mobile, of course, but for desktop, it is useless 15:47 Calinou fun fact: my mobo supports wifi, yet I didn't even put the wifi antenna 15:50 bas080 I am trying out civilization mod. Is anyone willing to test it with me? 31.151.189.3:30000 15:51 NakedFury hey bas080:http://imgur.com/LlAnfTf 15:51 NakedFury thats how I would do the carts 15:51 bas080 NakedFUry Join! 15:51 NakedFury not sure yet how to bring them to the game with the animations 15:51 NakedFury ok then what version? 15:51 bas080 latest 15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet me 15:52 NakedFury ok downloading game. name will obviously be NakedFury 15:52 jojoa1997|Tablet im coming on 15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet lol im going to kill my pc 15:53 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest, minecraft, 3 gimps and an editor with 14 files open 15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet all in a days work 15:54 khonkhortisan Use tab mode for gimp 15:54 NakedFury quite minecraft, the 3 gimps, and close the editor 15:54 NakedFury problem solved 15:54 bas080 never knew that tabmode existed! 15:54 khonkhortisan It's new 15:54 NakedFury bas080: waiting content... 15:54 jojoa1997|Tablet same 15:55 bas080 i just updated to the lastest common. That requires you to have the latest minetest version. Why is that? 15:56 bas080 This shouldn;t take this long? 15:56 NakedFury still waiting 15:56 bas080 restart? 15:56 bas080 restarting 15:56 NakedFury and I am using pilzadam's general forum 046 build 15:57 bas080 this should do it. 15:57 jojoa1997|Tablet can i have privs 15:57 bas080 Sorry for the confusion 15:57 bas080 yes 15:57 jojoa1997|Tablet fast and fly 15:58 bas080 fast 15:58 bas080 no fly 15:59 NakedFury waiting 15:59 NakedFury joined 16:00 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 16:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i have minecraft and minetest open and am traveling oin both 16:01 VanessaE afternoon all. 16:01 * VanessaE looks at scrollback.... tl'dr 16:01 VanessaE ; 16:02 VanessaE Calinou: fix yet busted-ass admin pick ;) 16:02 VanessaE yer* 16:03 jojoa1997|Tablet VAnessaE 16:03 VanessaE hm? 16:03 jojoa1997|Tablet around midnigjt i was soo famous i had 5 imposters 16:03 VanessaE I saw. 16:06 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: upper springs b633c5299d 2013-04-06T09:04:28-07:00 http://git.io/WhcpPA 16:07 jojoa1997|Tablet YES 16:08 hylian i was wondering if there is a way to see a map of the current world. It's difficult to find my way back to "home" 16:08 khonkhortisan There are two or three ways to do that 16:08 khonkhortisan You can get a top-down view or orthographic 16:09 hylian khonkhortisan: i am looking for a top down view 16:10 khonkhortisan here's one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2747 16:10 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896 16:10 VanessaE and this one. 16:11 VanessaE and there's one written in python that comes with the engine 16:11 mauvebic poop, were supposed to go visit mother, but she aint feeling well today :/ 16:12 hylian thanks! I am very very new to minetest. I gotta say, so far I love it. I was a minecraft classic fan, but openjdk does not run classic (or minecraft in any form) at all, so.. (not a oracle fan) 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Don't flow finite liquid into an unloaded chunk 120f02e20b 2013-04-06T09:09:59-07:00 http://git.io/7pYnyA 16:13 hylian so is there a noob guide any of you would suggest? 16:14 VanessaE better to just play the game and learn it a little at a time :-) 16:14 Calinou VanessaE: not dropping anything is a feature :P 16:14 Calinou usually when you have that pick you can use /give 16:14 VanessaE Calinou: not dropping anything makes the admin pick useless for regular mining :( 16:14 VanessaE trust me, it is incredibly handy to have it 16:15 Calinou why would you want to use it for regular mining 16:15 Calinou it's overpowered 16:15 VanessaE mine a single block, then take that block into the inventory 'refill' slot 16:15 VanessaE use the result of that to build further 16:15 VanessaE that's how I use it most in fact 16:15 Calinou it fills your inventory with useless blocks 16:15 markveidemanis Kacey 16:15 markveidemanis Im done, come see 16:16 hylian I am looking for a "the basics" guide, so I can see what is different between minecraft and minetest... i'll just dig with ddg or google. 16:16 VanessaE Calinou: it's also really fast, which is a blessing when you're maintaining a server, if you get the items back. 16:16 VanessaE it takes two clicks to empty my inventory 16:16 VanessaE so useless blocks aren't an issue 16:16 VanessaE it's *redundant* blocks that are the problem 16:16 VanessaE getting 10 different shapes of mesecons wires for example 16:16 VanessaE when they all have the same drop that goes back to one wire 16:16 VanessaE same for many other things in use these days 16:16 hylian thanks all for the help! 16:18 jordan4ibanez shouldn't cactus and papyrus drop all the nodes above it when it's dug? 16:18 Menche i thought my server was getting lonely, then i got the server list announcing fixed 16:18 VanessaE Calinou: please. put it back the way it was a while back, when it gave back what it cut and the drops worked right. 16:18 Menche now there's 12 players on 16:18 kaeza OMG! Jordach changed his avatar! 16:18 VanessaE kaeza: you just now noticed? :) 16:19 kaeza he looks pretty now <3 16:20 jordan4ibanez He does! (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhomo) 16:20 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, when comes the new "Simply Minetest" episode? 16:20 jordan4ibanez probably tomorrow because I'm going to be busy today 16:21 VanessaE what's wrong with someone looking pretty? 16:22 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81969#p81969 :3 16:23 khonkhortisan Pistons push me an offset, if I'm slightly off the center of a node, a piston can't push me off of it, just to the edge of it 16:27 Menche does anyone know how to reset/delete a poll block? 16:27 Menche the punbb wiki says that users can reset or delete it 16:27 Menche but i can not figure out how :P 16:28 VanessaE Menche: the forums are misconfigured slightly (or perhaps it was deliberate) 16:28 Menche sfan5 said that moderators can't edit but that users can 16:28 VanessaE some moderators can delete polls, but not all 16:29 sfan5 wut? 16:29 sfan5 that makes no sense to me 16:29 jordan4ibanez Some moderators can delete polls, but not at all? 16:29 mauvebic silent edits can be annoying as hell :P for instance, it would have been nice to know why at least the link to the issue ticket i posted was removed :P 16:29 VanessaE sfan5: beats me why, but it's the truth 16:30 Menche the punbb wiki says that users should be able to 16:30 sfan5 seems like i'm one of the people which are not able to delete polls 16:31 jordan4ibanez Also: Why can't we use youtube videos? The thing even has a [video][/video] for the bb code 16:31 mauvebic i mean, if people are gonna go around changing other people's posts, they should have the balls to put their name to it at least, if not a reason :P 16:32 Menche would it be considered spam if I made a new topic for a poll releted to my server? 16:32 sfan5 Menche: maybe 16:32 Menche i know it should go on my server's topic, but it appears that the last poll is undeletable 16:32 sfan5 hm 16:33 sfan5 then it'd be okay i think 16:33 jordan4ibanez pilzadam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/97f0bb03423b6d2e22058166b677e568c53d7567 nodes are very indecisive no? :P 16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet lol 16:33 PilzAdam heh 16:33 Menche if nodes really want to fall 16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i spawned 50 pigmen 16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet \hostile if you attack 16:34 jojoa1997|Tablet and had them chase me into a tnt trap 16:34 jojoa1997|Tablet tnt exploeds and i literally see raining gold 16:34 khonkhortisan =ring of conflict 16:34 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Fix to be able to build from dir different than source dir 046534e14b 2013-04-06T09:31:12-07:00 http://git.io/Ir0R9w 16:34 sfan5 MinetestBot: who is this guy without a name? 16:35 Menche guy without a name? 16:35 kaeza hah 16:35 sfan5 GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Fix .... 16:35 * Menche thinks of last night's nickname-changing chaos 16:36 PilzAdam sfan5, the last ~7 commits or so were without a name 16:36 khonkhortisan GIT: rewrote client in java. Server is still in C++ for speed. 16:36 Menche oh 16:36 jojoa1997|Tablet i like minecraft fire 16:36 sfan5 but this one is right: MinetestBot> GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Only enqueue falling nodes if they really want to fall 97f0bb0342 2013-04-05T13:33:11-07:00 http://git.io/x0gJfw 16:36 jojoa1997|Tablet it has single texture file but is set to move at different angles 16:36 sfan5 hm 16:36 PilzAdam sfan5, MinetestBot seems to like me 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet who thinks we should stop being able to place plocks that entities are in 16:37 khonkhortisan We should still be able to, the entity should move 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet O.o 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet i am using doku_lush 16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet the sky is amazing at night 16:38 khonkhortisan wouldn't want to be itemspammed and not be able to build 16:38 sfan5 PilzAdam: hmmmm causes this problem 16:38 bas080 I will keep first test version of civilization running on 31.151.189.3:30000 16:39 PilzAdam sfan5, IIRC when I merged a commit from kaeza it was wrong too 16:39 bas080 Feel free to try it out and see for your self how the gamplay is quite different 16:39 sfan5 PilzAdam: which commit was that? 16:39 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2fb0e547a01a6e61b821737e61315bad3312e41e 16:39 PilzAdam maybe this 16:40 jordan4ibanez can we just ban this user? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5468 16:40 jordan4ibanez the download "button" is just a picture 16:41 PilzAdam +1 16:41 sfan5 GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Use the nodebox as selection box if it's not set manually 2fb0e547a0 2013-04-05T06:14:37-07:00 http://git.io/J_ZEfw 16:41 sfan5 hmm 16:41 Menche lol 16:41 kaeza jordan4ibanez, +1 16:41 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, +1 16:41 Jordach oopws 16:41 Jordach oops 16:41 Jordach jordan4ibanez, +11³ 16:41 jordan4ibanez He put zeg9 as a contributor just because he fucking commented 16:41 VanessaE Jordach: actually he IS beginning to irritate. 16:41 khonkhortisan jojoa1997|Tablet, -1 16:42 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 16:42 VanessaE isn't that your contrib? :-) 16:42 kaeza yep ;) 16:42 Jordach VanessaE, same here, he's driving me up the wall with nonsense mods and posts 16:42 Menche he hasn't done anything *bad* 16:42 Menche he's just maybe over-enthusiastic and bad (terrible) at english grammar 16:42 mauvebic whos irritating? 16:42 mauvebic lol 16:42 kaeza Likwid 16:42 mauvebic oh him lol 16:42 sfan5 !sfu Likwid* 16:42 Jordach he's a Minecrap user who's trying to win here 16:42 MinetestBot Likwid H-Craft Member 973 posts, registered on 2013-01-06 | id: 3972 16:42 mauvebic i would banned his ass three months ago lol 16:43 Menche 973 posts? 16:43 Jordach which i did a. year. ago. 16:43 bas080 I recently started ignoring everything he makes 16:43 Jordach !sfu Jordach 16:43 VanessaE Menche: bad? terrible? no, try fucking horrible, unreadable, butchered english. 16:43 mauvebic *correction : 973 non-posts 16:43 MinetestBot Jordach Member 2,883 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332 16:43 Menche i have 807 16:43 kaeza !sfu kaeza 16:43 MinetestBot kaeza Member 819 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279 16:43 bas080 because it is never finishedf 16:43 Menche !sfu celeron55 16:43 VanessaE !sfu VanessaE 16:43 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 314 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2 16:43 MinetestBot VanessaE Moderator 1,585 posts, registered on 2012-04-01 | id: 1580 16:43 sfan5 !sfu celeron* 16:43 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 314 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2 16:43 MinetestBot Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 | id: 2834 16:43 VanessaE only 1585? I need to get more chatty. :) 16:43 Exio !sfu Exio4 16:43 Menche and he has 3 times the posts of celeron 16:43 khonkhortisan "whos" is pronounced whôs 16:43 Exio :D 16:43 kaeza lol 16:44 MinetestBot Exio4 New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-12-23 | id: 3863 16:44 kaeza celeron56? 16:44 Jordach sfan5, you should change !sfu to !stfu 16:44 Exio +1 16:44 sfan5 no 16:44 Jordach search the forum users 16:44 sfan5 !sfu sfan5 16:44 kaeza !stfu Likwid 16:44 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,131 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239 16:44 Jordach !sfu Vohveli 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i nedd to get more chatty 16:45 MinetestBot Vohveli Moderator 0 posts, registered on 2011-06-05 | id: 93 16:45 Menche he's a moderator, but has 0 posts 16:45 Exio !spam 16:45 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, you have enough as is 16:45 Jordach anyways 16:45 Jordach back to what #minetest 16:45 Menche !sfu Menche 16:45 Jordach IS. 16:45 MinetestBot Menche Member 807 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 | id: 153 16:45 sfan5 Menche: how do you know that he/she is "he" 16:45 Jordach can we drop the bots now, it's getting annoying 16:45 * Menche really is not very chatty 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet not as much as another NEWER erson meantioned aerlier 16:45 Jordach most of my chatter is here 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i have been on for almost half a year 16:45 Menche i don't 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet in real life i rarely say anything 16:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i go days without talking exceot the basic needed 16:46 * Menche would be sitting in a corner looking around awkwardly, irl 16:46 MinetestBot Exio: unknown command 16:46 * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head 16:46 Jordach VanessaE, you have 69 posts on HDX, have a nice day 16:47 sfan5 anyway has anyone seen this: 16:47 sfan5 !help 16:47 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 16:47 Menche so, does anyone on this planet have the ability to delete polls? 16:47 Jordach Menche, it's easier to ping VanessaE or sfan5 to do it 16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet wiata thaw u maen keaza 16:48 Menche Jordach, both of them have said they can't 16:48 jordan4ibanez I just realized, we basically have adventure mode from minecraft in minetest. xD 16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet no 16:48 NakedFury adventure from what? 16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet you can place or dig in advneter mode 16:48 Jordach jordan4ibanez, /revoke USER interact for adventure 16:48 mauvebic im an adcneterer 16:48 NakedFury more like peaceful exploration 16:48 jordan4ibanez Yes you can, but you need the specific tool for digging 16:49 sfan5 jojoa1997|Tablet: * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head 16:49 mauvebic *advneterer 16:49 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1lsdyidzuE 16:49 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but then they cant open chests 16:49 jordan4ibanez Yes you can 16:49 jojoa1997|Tablet no 16:49 jordan4ibanez you can place blocks too >.> 16:49 Jordach back to likquid: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81946#p81946 16:49 jordan4ibanez I'm talking about adventure mode in minecraft, it's almost the exact same from minetest 16:50 mauvebic either Likwid isn't native english speaker, or he's intentionally writing unintelligeble (sp) posts 16:50 Jordach mauvebic, (sp) ? 16:50 Jordach stupid? 16:50 mauvebic (sp) = i know the spelling might be wrong lol 16:50 Exio spelling 16:51 kaeza jordan4ibanez, I want your avatar as minetest's new icon :D 16:51 Calinou VanessaE: i've added an admin pick which gives drops 16:51 Jordach oh and, he's a tit: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81947#p81947 16:51 jordan4ibanez http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=286 16:51 Menche wasn't that one of cisoun's faenza icons? 16:51 Calinou adminpickdrops, maptools:pick_admin_with_drops 16:51 kaeza derp 16:51 Menche oh 16:51 Jordach kaeza, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=286 16:52 Jordach his icon's from here 16:52 kaeza didn't know about these 16:53 Menche "The Master Mind of Portaltest!" 16:53 Jordach bullshit 16:53 Jordach that goes to bas080 16:53 Kacey ooh hai Menchq 16:53 Kacey ooh hai Menche 16:53 Calinou lol, minecraft splash: "Almost java 6!" 16:53 Menche hi 16:53 Calinou hello missing capital 16:54 Kacey can you add the locks mod to your server? 16:54 * Menche wonders what the QR code on the portaltest page says 16:54 Menche why would you put a QR code on a website anyway 16:55 mauvebic stargates are made up of 9 nodes right? 16:55 Menche QR codes are typically for posting urls, you could just make the link on the site 16:55 bas080 Jordach, I don't mind if he tries to do his own thing. But wtf?!?! the thing has a qr code? 16:55 bas080 THafuck? 16:55 Jordach Menche, he'e mentally backwards 16:55 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653 16:55 Jordach its like putting a battery in the wrong way 16:56 Kacey Menche^^ 16:57 mauvebic lol apparently while i was sleeping / snoring the cat stuck her paw in my mouth lol 16:58 Kacey +1 for the cat 16:58 mauvebic explains the dry throat this morning lol 16:58 Menche LOL 16:58 Menche scanned the QR code, it goes to the same forum topic 16:58 Menche that it's posted on 16:59 jojoa1997|Tablet inventory_image = "bas.png^top.png" 16:59 jojoa1997|Tablet that right? 16:59 bas080 ye 16:59 bas080 s 17:00 mauvebic anyone else have blender lock up for five minutes white importing collada files? 17:01 * Menche takes away some of Likwid's commas 17:01 jojoa1997|Tablet can anyone make a node that is caged and has a swirling pic inside 17:02 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam 17:02 bas080 Bad_command was talking about new ways to define nodeboxes. I think with that you can make that 17:02 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, please stop saying my nick without any text next to it 17:02 Menche you could spawn a spinning entity inside the node 17:02 jojoa1997|Tablet ok 17:03 jojoa1997|Tablet you mobs mod isnt working 17:03 khonkhortisan "isnt" working how? 17:03 jojoa1997|Tablet my spawners wont spawn the skeleton 17:03 Menche "isn't working": the universal and completely useless bug report 17:04 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i register an entity 17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet the register_entiy?> 17:06 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the format? 17:06 Exio Menche: read that as the most used bug report 17:07 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, read lua-api.txt 17:09 Menche Likwid's "itemflames" mod depends on "defaultwool" 17:09 Menche the zip archive name contains "MASTER", does that indicate it was generated by github? 17:10 Zeg9 I guess he's trying to imitate others. 17:10 * Menche thinks he just put that in there 17:10 Zeg9 Everyone hosting on github have their archive with master inside, so he thought it was a naming convention. That's it. 17:10 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam fix your simple mobs. i keep on getting errors i have to fix 17:11 Zeg9 I wonder why he posts his mod as it doesn't even do anything... 17:12 kaeza Zeg9, does he have a single mod that does anything? 17:12 Menche somehow, it's at version 0.0.5 17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 17:12 Zeg9 That's a really good question... 17:12 Menche and the next version is 0.0.8 17:12 Menche ...? 17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet portal is actually a good game 17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet the one he made 17:12 Zeg9 It doesn't do anything... 17:12 jojoa1997|Tablet he can make mods but he puts every idea down 17:12 Zeg9 Just adds item but not even portal gun (or he made it?) 17:12 mauvebic 4 ships to test: Lusitania, Queen Mary 2, Carpathia and Empress of Ireland 2 17:13 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, I bet 10000 internetz that portal game is just a copypasta from other mods 17:13 Zeg9 I know portal gun would be hard to do but it's essential for a portal game 17:13 Menche the "least download" has a nice button... that doesn't actually link to anything 17:13 Zeg9 The button is a minecraft texture -_- 17:13 jojoa1997|Tablet not really 17:13 PilzAdam Zeg9, really? thats a ban reason 17:13 bas080 Zeg9, shhh no one should know! 17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet well for tiem replacer 17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet no 17:14 Menche was it likwid that had an animated gif avatar service? 17:14 Zeg9 His ideas are good but he doesn't do anything. I don't say he is needed to be ban though.... He didn't do anything bad... 17:14 mauvebic lol copypasta 17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet BAN HAMMER 17:14 Menche like i said, i think he's just over-enthusiastic and terrible at grammar 17:14 jojoa1997|Tablet ban sledghammer 17:15 NakedFury he is all bark and no bite then? 17:15 kaeza sledge* 17:15 Menche he hasn't done anything *bad* 17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet menche agree 17:15 bas080 common, most of use copy pasted! 17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet idea 17:15 bas080 Just so we can make an addition to that work 17:15 Menche wonder what his native language is 17:15 jojoa1997|Tablet make everything back to entirely C++ 17:15 khonkhortisan probably english 17:16 Menche not sure how english could be his native language 17:16 NakedFury I agree 17:16 kaeza ^ 17:16 jojoa1997|Tablet ^^ 17:16 kaeza ^_^ 17:16 RealBadAngel cmon guys, he at least tries to do something, maybe with time he will manage to finish something 17:16 jojoa1997|Tablet ^_^_^ 17:16 bas080 Relatively, people with the best English grammar do not live in USA or England. 17:17 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 17:17 bas080 Bold statement ^^^ 17:17 Menche hey >:( 17:17 bas080 Menche, i'm just saying that. i have no proof 17:17 jojoa1997|Tablet a stdent from germmany got all 100% in englidh class and no one else did \ 17:17 kaeza ... 17:18 bas080 In Germany everything is better and bigger 17:18 * kaeza puts a spellchecker on jojoa1997|Tablet's head 17:18 PilzAdam bas080, yes 17:18 NakedFury and beer is better 17:18 NakedFury :D 17:18 jin_xi well, fuck german salad. 17:18 jin_xi its sugary 17:18 bas080 Those Belgiums and the Dutch have some goo beer too! 17:18 NakedFury they cant have everything good 17:18 NakedFury the weather sucks too 17:18 bas080 I preffer dutch beer 17:19 PilzAdam NakedFury, because of that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot 17:19 mauvebic ugh, stupid bug, xarchiver cant zip folders with names containing spaces lol 17:21 Menche he spelled "frame" "flame" 17:21 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam what should the velocity of the arrow from skeleton be 17:21 Menche everywhere in his mod, all the node definitions, the name, the descriptions 17:21 PilzAdam dunno 17:21 Jordach fast enough to penetrate you IRL 17:21 NakedFury not instant 17:21 * jojoa1997|Tablet ignores jordach 17:21 NakedFury give chance to dodge them 17:22 Jordach In Germany English write you 17:22 mauvebic boooo McBain! 17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet haha you are in the ignore list jordach 17:22 * Jordach drum rolls for the most useful IRC msg 17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet just deleted you from it 17:22 jojoa1997|Tablet lol perfect timing 17:24 * Menche is not understanding Likwid's "itemflames" code 17:24 Jordach okay: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81982#p81982 17:24 Menche he has 3 node definitions that seem to be identical except for the name 17:24 Jordach likid is OFC a retard 17:24 Menche only one appears to be actually used 17:25 mauvebic query, OFC? 17:25 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam how do i make the arrow do damage 17:25 jojoa1997|Tablet witht the hit_player 17:25 Calinou http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?79538-Dell-Alienware-Introduce-Linux-Gaming-PC/ 17:25 Calinou popcorn 17:25 PilzAdam look at the DM fireball 17:25 * Calinou gave up in fighting people there 17:26 jojoa1997|Tablet it isbnt right 17:26 jojoa1997|Tablet not updated to new damage system. it think? 17:26 PilzAdam not yet 17:26 * jojoa1997|Tablet give Calinou popcorn for life 17:27 * Menche throws popcorn at everyone 17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet could you type what i need to add for 3 hearts 17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet or could i get that link you had earlier 17:27 jojoa1997|Tablet the one for damage 17:28 mauvebic this common/ multiple common is getting confusing lol what if we simply stuck the mods in the worldfolder, different worlds different mods? 17:28 bas080 mauvebic +1 17:28 mauvebic make sharing maps easier 17:28 jojoa1997|Tablet no cause it would be a pain to update every map 17:28 bas080 But you can still do that, you just have to remove common mods 17:28 mauvebic you could always link 17:28 mauvebic symbolic link i mean 17:29 mauvebic what i did with mm2/spacemm2 17:29 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6435979520/h5C4D0158/ 17:29 celeron55 yeah sure, symbolic links on windows are a regular thing, and people always have their minetest installed at the same location for the lifetime of their worlds 17:30 jojoa1997|Tablet do i detect sarcasm? 17:30 mauvebic lol 17:30 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, probably not 17:30 celeron55 your sarcasm detector may have exploded 17:30 jojoa1997|Tablet no i am not in minetest-dev 17:30 celeron55 if it's so unsure 17:31 mauvebic well this common stuff isn't making things easier either 17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet it is 17:31 celeron55 mauvebic: it depends on who you ask 17:31 * Menche wonders if the current situation really is better than before that argument 17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet now you dont have to change everything 17:31 Menche 4 downloads now 17:31 mauvebic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5423 17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet if you want to change a node just do 17:31 jojoa1997|Tablet just redefine it 17:32 Menche you could always redefine nodes 17:32 mauvebic i thought i was the only one with a custom default but apparently not lol 17:32 mauvebic and some of the stuff in common like buckets alot of people are interested in disabling/restricting 17:32 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone made gravity changing mods yet 17:33 celeron55 mauvebic: oh god 17:33 mauvebic and then theres' this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/599 17:33 celeron55 not any of this "loop through all settings and assume everything is about my new thing" stuff 17:33 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic 17:33 mauvebic didn't really get that last statement lol 17:33 jojoa1997|Tablet i have edited the entire default and uckets and everything else for minitest 17:34 mauvebic just sayin, some of the mods in common aren't really that common, its just stuff some people wish everyone would use 17:35 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone know of a good painting mod 17:36 jojoa1997|Tablet not you paint it but it shows a texture 17:37 mauvebic even some sort of import(mod, game) function might have made more sense 17:37 PilzAdam mauvebic, then you would depend on games 17:37 mauvebic thats relative to depending on common :p 17:38 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Don't re-write entire map_meta.txt if a setting is missing 453d79e3a2 2013-04-06T10:36:51-07:00 http://git.io/P0ndDA 17:38 mauvebic what i picture happening is this: people are gonna write their own commons, thats a given 17:38 kaeza I find it funny how people love open source and public domain stuff but bitch when they have to change something 17:38 Calinou since when /people/ love OSS 17:39 Calinou by people, you mean the general opinion... 17:39 Calinou say "hippies", "hackers" or "activists" instead. >:D 17:39 kaeza I find it funny how hackers love open source and public domain stuff but bitch when they have to change something 17:39 kaeza better? :) 17:39 mauvebic kaeza well its just as silly as bitching about people who question certain changes 17:39 Kacey afk 17:40 * kaeza points at the users who bitched about non-renewable lava 17:40 mauvebic ogb bitches about everything 17:40 * kaeza also points at the users who bitched about new mese textures 17:40 mauvebic i happen to agree with alot of changes, that don't mean i have to agree with everything though 17:40 mauvebic why does it have to be all or nothing anyhow? 17:41 NakedFury im lost. what are we talking about now? 17:41 mauvebic you either get religous devotion or devout hatred, there dont seem to be much middle ground lol 17:41 kaeza NakedFury, about users who start a holy war for a fucking one line change 17:41 NakedFury ohh 17:41 NakedFury I got 2 words 17:41 NakedFury fuck em 17:42 NakedFury make the changes if they dont like it then as an open source project they can change it back 17:42 kaeza that's my point 17:42 mauvebic still talking about ogb? 17:42 NakedFury if they keep bitching place on ignore list 17:42 kaeza those users started a holy war because they were lazy asses who didn't bother to change that line 17:43 mauvebic at least have the balls to name'em 17:43 mauvebic if youre gonna swear at them :p 17:43 Exio kaeza: or a mod what changes it! 17:43 kaeza 0gb.us 17:43 mauvebic ty 17:43 kaeza and maybe Menche and Mitori 17:43 mauvebic some changes are easily reverted, and i dont get debating it for weeks 17:43 kaeza Exio, I even wrote a mod for him :P 17:44 Exio i saw that, and exactly 17:44 jojoa1997|Tablet peop[le bitching about changes 17:44 jojoa1997|Tablet \oops sorry didnt see newer posts 17:44 mauvebic people either bitch about changes, or bitch about people who bitch about changes :p 17:44 mauvebic one wonders who isn't a bitch around here lol 17:44 kaeza I'm from the second group :P 17:44 NakedFury you forgot or bitch about no changes 17:45 mauvebic true that 17:45 * jojoa1997|Tablet is the devil's advocate 17:45 * Jordach bitches about the people who don't bitch 17:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i voted for both sides 17:45 mauvebic well, the game stayed the same for so long, you had to expect blowback 17:45 NakedFury im on the progression/change party 17:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i kept it going XD 17:45 kaeza mauvebic, g*d bless open source 17:45 mauvebic im on the "maintain functionality" team lol 17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet so... 17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone know of a good painting mod 17:46 NakedFury thats a given mauvebic 17:46 jojoa1997|Tablet not you paint it but it shows a texture 17:46 kaeza jin_xi's 17:46 mauvebic and the "not breaking shit that works" team lol 17:47 mauvebic linus might be an ass, but he's right, you never break userland lol 17:47 Calinou >linus 17:47 Calinou >right 17:47 Calinou he stopped being right when he said "fuff you nvidia" 17:47 mauvebic that was stupid 17:47 jojoa1997|Tablet there is one person that does not bitch at all 17:48 mauvebic anyone who seriously believes the opensource drivers are better should get their heads checked 17:48 Calinou you 17:48 kaeza and the award goes to... 17:48 Calinou mauvebic: intel's drivers are decent 17:48 Calinou but it is still slower than the windows one (which is proprietary... lol :P) 17:48 mauvebic im on nvidia and ati, need the latest, and best 17:48 Calinou intel supports opensource when it's good for them 17:48 kaeza and sdzen 17:48 mauvebic and bitching at the people who give me the best driver for nvidia... well ianno lol 17:48 kaeza whoops 17:48 Calinou and about being anticompetitive, they are no better than microsoft 17:49 Calinou people whine at MS so much, but intel does the same, or is worse since the stuff they do applies to all OS 17:49 Calinou eg. abusive segmentation 17:49 Jordach Calinou, go AMD 17:49 Calinou no crapalyst for me 17:49 jojoa1997|Tablet there is one person that does not bitch at all 17:49 mauvebic opensource is free association, bitching at companies there to make a profit is counterproductive, you cant force people/companies to be open if they dont want to 17:49 jojoa1997|Tablet celeron55 17:50 NakedFury celeron bitches about us bitchin too much 17:50 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, he does bitch 17:50 kaeza but for some valid reasons 17:50 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but not about the game 17:50 Leoneof v0.4.5 is working with me O_O 17:50 jojoa1997|Tablet for he can just change it 17:50 kaeza Leoneof, \o/ 17:50 mauvebic well anyone who's been around alot of OSS projects knows criticism is hardly welcomed in most circles :p 17:50 Leoneof what's the best server to play online? 17:51 Leoneof kaeza: thanks :D 17:51 Calinou "multiplayer" 17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet if he wants he can make it closed source 17:51 Calinou latest ver is 0.4.6 btw 17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb.us 17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet sunrisetest.no-ip.org 17:51 kaeza <--- this guy's server is da best 17:51 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae.mine.bz 17:51 sokomine or redcrabs server (has lots of good buildings) 17:51 Leoneof Resolving Address... 17:51 mauvebic like shuttleworth calling his own users elitist because they dont like gnome3 lol 17:51 mauvebic or unity 17:51 Leoneof Connecting... 17:51 sokomine yes, vanessas' good as well 17:52 mauvebic or whatever flash-in-the-pan thing theyre trying 17:52 jojoa1997|Tablet ASIAN FOOD 17:52 Calinou mauvebic: shuttleworth is right here: he says "linux should only be for the elite" is stupid 17:52 Calinou and unity is fine 17:52 mauvebic but hardly anyone says that 17:53 mauvebic perhaps the distribution devs themselves 17:53 Jordach there is a good use for unity and gnome 17:53 kaeza Calinou, wut 17:53 Calinou that's the linux community 17:53 mauvebic but most users dont agree 17:53 Jordach getting KDE OR XFCE 17:53 kaeza >unity is fine 17:53 kaeza fuckk no 17:53 Calinou it has a few nice features, which compensate its downsides 17:53 Calinou eg. HUD 17:53 Calinou no other DE has the "HUD" feature 17:53 Jordach Calinou, notifications in XFCE4 17:53 mauvebic did docks suddenly drop off the face of the earth? lol 17:53 Jordach they hover 17:53 mauvebic widgets aren't new either 17:54 Calinou Jordach: by HUD I mean the ability to search in an application's menus 17:54 USA zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 - Best server 17:54 Kacey lol 17:54 Kacey !server 17:54 MinetestBot Kacey: VanessaE's Testing Server | vanessae.mine.bz:30000 up (91.789%) 17:54 mauvebic if they had put time into the gnome2-panel fixing broken applets and adding new ones, they wouldn't need the hud lol 17:54 Calinou gnome 2 is obsolete 17:55 mauvebic tell that to all of mate's users :p 17:55 Calinou and the only theme that made it look good was ambiance :P 17:55 mauvebic and cinnamons' 17:55 Leoneof vanessae.mine.bz:30000 <--- this need username / password :\ 17:56 Calinou cinnamon is based on gnome 3 17:56 mauvebic i have a hard time justifying change for the sake of change when something already works and is KISS 17:56 Calinou mauvebic: btw, haven't gnome 3 got a new fallback mode recently? 17:56 jojoa1997|Tablet hogwarts mving pictures 17:56 mauvebic yeah, cuz theyre tired of bleeding users 17:56 jojoa1997|Tablet v\ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4635 17:56 mauvebic they finally figured calling them all stupid and un-enlightened hasn't helped their cause 17:57 mauvebic though judging from the comments on /. very little left who cares what they do now 17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic who is this 17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet links mauybe? 17:58 mauvebic what? 17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet links to comments 17:58 mauvebic dude, if you cant keep up :p 17:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i dont feel like looking back 17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i just came back from making lunch 17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet i will look back 17:59 mauvebic well if youre too lazy to scrollback i wont go trolling the net for an old article for you :p 17:59 kaeza ^ 17:59 jojoa1997|Tablet you mean this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4635 18:00 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i scrolled back but 18:00 mauvebic slashdot, google gnome3, should be one of the latest articles 18:00 jojoa1997|Tablet you startd talking about them earlier than i realized 18:01 jojoa1997|Tablet brb 18:02 Leoneof gnome3? eeeww 18:02 Leoneof gnome2 is awww 18:03 jojoa1997|Tablet back 18:03 Leoneof wb mojojojo 18:03 mauvebic dunno, i prefer showing off the things i do on the computer, not showing off the computer itself lol 18:05 NakedFury how did the earlier conversation about minetest changes got to linux stuff? 18:05 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82006#p82006 18:06 mauvebic im not sure lol 18:06 mauvebic flowing conversations lol 18:07 Leoneof it was gdb 18:07 NakedFury well i will keep monitoring while I flow to some combat on planetside 2 18:08 mauvebic hmm, thats not the Queen Mary 2, its the Queen Mary 18:10 VanessaE Leoneof: make up a password. 18:10 kaeza YAY http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=696709#696709 18:10 VanessaE (on my server, you just need to make one up, and remember it for later) 18:10 jojoa1997|Tablet afk 18:10 Leoneof VanessaE: yes i was following wiki, it's loading... 18:10 mauvebic theres a mt package for puppy? 18:10 mauvebic sweet-ass 18:11 mauvebic running a server off netbook might be more feasible(sp) than i thought 18:11 VanessaE Leoneof: oh ok 18:12 mauvebic trying to get family and friends to join on the ship building effort lol only got about 20 or so ships (space and sea) 18:13 * VanessaE scrolls back to see what she missed 18:13 mauvebic not much :p 18:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, you missed pure awesomeness! 18:14 mauvebic some stuff about common/multiple commons, gnome3, etc. 18:14 Taoki hi. When you create an item in a mod which you want to spawn naturally, how do you add it to the mapgen in your init.lua? 18:14 Taoki eg: A plant 18:14 Taoki Which you want to be generated on grass and dirt nodes 18:14 PilzAdam Taoki, see the default mod 18:15 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#xmKEwb8J omg lol 18:16 Taoki oh, minetest.register_on_generated it was. Thanks 18:18 Taoki Yet no detailed documentation or examples on it :P Gonna have to see how default did it although it's a bit big 18:21 Taoki Yeah, the stuff there is too complicated. Anyone know the simplest way to add an item on top of grass in register_on_generated ? 18:21 Taoki The default example is full of complex maths and I don't need anything that fancy 18:22 kaeza Taoki, making flowers? :P 18:22 Taoki kaeza: There already is a folower mod, I'm making a special plant of sorts :P But I wanna know to use this for more in the future too 18:23 Kacey check jordan4ibanez's surface gen code 18:23 Taoki Kacey: Any links? 18:23 kaeza Kacey, that is -ND 18:23 Kacey -ND? 18:23 Taoki Eh, no one says tou can't look at the code for inspiration if you don't copy anything directly :) 18:23 Taoki No Distribute I think 18:23 kaeza No Derivatives 18:24 Taoki yeah 18:24 Menche he the only one who uses -ND? 18:24 Menche don't see that much 18:24 mauvebic which mod is ND? 18:25 kaeza all of j4i's 18:25 kaeza (or at least his recent ones) 18:25 mauvebic ah meh, even though i dont use it anymore, it is his right :P 18:26 Taoki Anywaym, any other example of simple item additions in register_on_generated? 18:28 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam please update throwing and simple mobs to the new attack system 18:28 Hwkiller could someone test a minetest server of mine? 18:29 jojoa1997|Tablet i will 18:29 Menche you can use !up to see if it's up 18:30 sdzen !up kray.dy.fi:30000 18:30 MinetestBot sdzen: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 18:31 sdzen !up kray.dy.fi 30000 18:31 MinetestBot kray.dy.fi:30000 seems to be down 18:31 sdzen of course 18:31 Menche that server's been dead *forever* 18:31 Kray wut 18:31 sdzen nothing kray, go back to the sea 18:32 sdzen play with your fish friends 18:32 Kray I'm fairly certain these guys I'm playing Eve with are not fishes 18:32 NakedFury Taoki isnt there a generic or default way to do that, that is not under a ND license? 18:33 mauvebic what are you trying to do? 18:34 Taoki mauvebic: Spawn an item randomly on grass when a chunk is created 18:34 Taoki Think I'm gonna use a loop on X and Z to choose a random location, then find the top in Y if any... in case no better example exists 18:34 mauvebic vanessa's plantlib does that and its not ND 18:34 Taoki for x = minp.x, maxp.x do 18:35 VanessaE use plants_lib :-) 18:35 Taoki nice. VanessaE's older flowers mod uses a laggier method I'm trying to avoid 18:35 VanessaE it rules :) 18:35 Taoki Is there a link? 18:35 mauvebic ze forums 18:35 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife 18:35 mauvebic or that 18:35 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3898 18:35 Taoki thanks 18:36 VanessaE flowers are spawned by an ABM, but you can also make stuff spawn at mapgen time (moretrees does that) 18:36 Taoki VanessaE: BTW. I was going to complain soon that http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2624 isn't min minetest_game by default yet :) 18:36 mauvebic ianno, its alot easier deleting all the ropes in blender than doing it after in minetest lol 18:36 Taoki Cuz I see no reason for this 18:36 Taoki VanessaE: Ah, I already know by ABM 18:36 Taoki Trying to avoid that 18:36 VanessaE Taoki: plants_lib needs yo be rewritten into C++ before it'll ever be included in the engine, though it is damned fast with luajit 18:36 VanessaE to* 18:37 mauvebic why cpp? what takes so long? 18:37 Taoki VanessaE: Wish normal flowers could be spawned with the mapgen in the correct way and be defaulted tho 18:37 mauvebic seems to me the API could simply be improved, (for all mods) 18:37 mauvebic some sort of fauna-specific thingie 18:37 VanessaE Taoki: making them spawn at mapgen time would be fairly trivial 18:37 mauvebic like ores 18:38 VanessaE mauvebic: because C++ is more efficient than Lua is all. 18:38 bas080 I have mesecons modpack installled with the modpack.txt but it won't find the init.lua? how come? 18:38 mauvebic tried luac? 18:38 VanessaE mauvebic: with luajit, there's no need\ 18:38 mauvebic you can compile for luajit too actually 18:38 mauvebic read up on it yesterday 18:39 VanessaE I compile Minetest against luajit, and it's about to be added to upstream I think, so soon everyone will be able to benefit from it 18:39 mauvebic ladies and gents, the RMS Queen Mary http://ompldr.org/vaTBldQ/screenshot_3768824402.png 18:40 VanessaE nice 18:40 mauvebic its missing a bottom but shhh lol 18:40 mauvebic most of the meshes come with an ocean so they never bothered with the belly of the ship lol 18:41 VanessaE heh 18:41 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i make minetest add a node 18:41 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 18:42 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest.env:add_node("") 18:43 Taoki yep 18:43 PilzAdam no 18:45 Hwkiller what's the keybinding for a screenshot? 18:45 * Menche 's server has 164% cpu usage 18:45 Hwkiller because I just found an amazingly large cave 18:45 Menche F12 18:45 Menche F1 and F2 to hide the gui 18:45 Hwkiller thanks 18:46 proller Hwkiller, want look at really big cave? 18:46 Hwkiller hm, it didn't screenshot 18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet chfck /minetest/bin 18:47 jojoa1997|Tablet *check 18:47 kaeza Hwkiller, what OS? 18:47 Hwkiller this is ubuntu 13.04 18:48 Hwkiller this is a system-wide install 18:48 kaeza Hwkiller, not sure, but some WMs stupidly assign F12 to something, and it never gets into MT 18:48 Hwkiller ah actually... that might e it 18:48 Hwkiller be* 18:49 CryAngel hi all 18:49 kaeza hi 18:49 Taoki PilzAdam: About your simple mobs framework; When will they be included in minetest as part of builtin already? Still eager to see that :P 18:50 sokomine i like the 3d animals from sapiers mobf more 18:51 sokomine they're the right mix between cute (not too much) and realistic 18:51 bas080 Is there an easy way to avoid submodules in git? 18:51 Taoki I had a 3D animals mod. But the ones I have has models which aren't bhe best, and also not made fully out of boxes 18:51 sokomine at least the peaceful, natural aniamals 18:52 sokomine not made fully out of boxes? 18:52 Taoki sokomine: It has diagonal parts which sort of breaks the style for the default game 18:53 jojoa1997|Tablet i almost have skeletons finished 18:53 jojoa1997|Tablet the arrow is a pain though 18:53 mauvebic i think hmmm was gonna take a look at the various mob frameworks before including any of them (i think) 18:54 rubenwardy hi all 18:54 kaeza hey ruben 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the code for adding an item to the environment 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet i cannot find it 18:55 kaeza minetest.env:add_entity() ? 18:55 mauvebic Carpathia http://ompldr.org/vaTBmNA/screenshot_3769481391.png 18:55 jojoa1997|Tablet no n NODE 18:56 mauvebic Empress of Ireland http://ompldr.org/vaTBmNQ/screenshot_3769821792.png 18:56 jojoa1997|Tablet "throwing:arrow" 18:56 Menche doesn't simple mobs have an api for making stuff like that? 18:56 sokomine aah. got that problem with the panel/slab solved...there was one of those invisible nodes in my inv (inventory images work only to a degree; never for wool, occasionally for stairsplus). individual nodes of one type cannot be distinguished from an empty inventory slot unless letting the mouse hover over it. that is sometimes annoying 18:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i am using it 18:57 sokomine on the other hand...the f10-bug seems to have not appeared, and generally, 0.4.6 seems stable so far :-) 18:57 jojoa1997|Tablet i never experienced the f10 bug\ 18:57 sokomine that bug happend to me a lot 18:58 jojoa1997|Tablet not once from 0.4.0 to now 18:58 jojoa1997|Tablet well i used windows 7 18:59 ShadowNinja Does anyone know what I should use to get my second monitor to work in XFCE? 19:00 mauvebic hammer? 19:00 mauvebic :P 19:01 Hwkiller http://i.imgur.com/aUrRLxq.png <-- the giant cave 19:01 Hwkiller had to take pic via scrot 19:01 mauvebic what dist? 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest,set_node(pos, {name=""}) 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ^ 19:01 jojoa1997|Tablet would that work 19:01 PilzAdam no 19:02 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i make it drop nothing 19:02 PilzAdam minetest.env:set_node(pos, {name=""}) 19:02 jojoa1997|Tablet how is the armor coming? 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam could you make some code for ore gen 19:07 jojoa1997|Tablet the nodes are 19:09 jordan4ibanez temp ban yoyobuddy for trolling, and likwid for spamming unfinished mods and generally stupid stuff. :< 19:10 Menche they haven't really done anything wrong 19:10 Menche so you're annoyed by someone? welcome to the Internet. 19:11 jojoa1997|Tablet "minitest:lapis_block" 19:11 jojoa1997|Tablet that is one ore 19:11 jordan4ibanez It's not me, it's everyone is annoyed by them 19:11 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/595 <- this is great 19:14 VanessaE bbl 19:15 jojoa1997|Tablet bbn 19:19 jojoa1997|Tablet NakedFury ping 19:34 Hwkiller can someone join my server to see whether it's functional? I'll PM you the IP 19:34 Menche you can use !up to see if it's up 19:34 Menche like 19:34 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000 19:34 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (1.376ms) 19:34 khonkhortisan /msg MinetestBot !up ip.ip.ip.ip 19:34 Hwkiller Not just whether it's up, but whether anything breaks when you join 19:35 Hwkiller I mean I know it's up; I'm staring at it 19:35 khonkhortisan nooo! I resized the window and lost my luacontroller code! 19:37 bas080 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81851#p81851 19:38 bas080 civilization update has been made and the serve is up and running. on ip http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81851#p81851 19:38 bas080 31.151.189.3 19:38 bas080 port 30000 19:39 Hwkiller civilization?? hmm 19:40 CryAngel here someone with linux and CMake knowledge, who can try compile my branch with luajit and see what wrong? 19:40 bas080 Hwkiller join! 19:41 Hwkiller bas080: i'm stil geting the hang of the base game :p 19:41 khonkhortisan Your name is out of order 19:41 bas080 There is a craft guide 19:42 CryAngel is stop on linking with some undefined reference errors... 19:48 Menche is there a way of dynamically loading textures? 19:49 NotReallyNick I wish there was. 19:49 NotReallyNick It would be good for adding people's custom skins. 19:49 Menche i have player_texture installed; when you give someone a skin but don't restart, they get a dummy skin 19:49 Menche = solid random color 19:49 NotReallyNick Exactly what I mean. 19:50 NotReallyNick Same happens on my custom skins plugin. 19:50 NotReallyNick (a fork of Zeg9's skins) 19:51 kaeza CryAngel, link? 19:52 CryAngel https://github.com/AngelCry/minetest/tree/LuaJIT 19:56 bas080 Looking form more people to test Civilization mod.... Anyone?? 31.151.189.3:30000 19:56 bas080 Come and join!!! 19:59 kaeza CryAngel, gimme a sec 19:59 Kacey what happened to my FTB topic? 20:00 Menche what topic? 20:00 Kacey under servers tab 20:00 Kacey not tab 20:00 Kacey under servers 20:01 Kacey does minetest support headgear? 20:01 NakedFury helmets? 20:01 Kacey like hats 20:02 Kacey part of the player texture 20:02 mauvebic hehe, just sent my ISP a scathing email 20:02 NakedFury you have to make the new model with hats 20:02 Menche you can put that in part of the player skin, i believe 20:02 mauvebic complete with diagrams 20:02 Menche i think you can put a hat in the player texture for the current model 20:03 NotReallyNick Yes, you can. 20:04 NotReallyNick Some people are ending up with plain white heads, because they are attempting to edit skins with Microsoft Paint. It removes the transparency of the spot that acts as the headgear. 20:05 Menche their fault for using MS Paint for something serious ;) 20:05 khonkhortisan Destruction of data is a very bad thing. 20:06 Kacey lol 20:06 NotReallyNick It's their fault for using Windows for anything serious. ☺ 20:06 Menche that too :D 20:06 NotReallyNick khonkhortisan: That's why I don't like JPEGs. 20:07 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: Adjusting water removing above unloaded blocks d50b2ede92 2013-04-06T13:05:39-07:00 http://git.io/7HMYRA 20:07 NotReallyNick Nice. 20:07 Menche JPEGS are good for photos, but don't use them for any textures 20:07 Menche unless they're insane resolution 20:08 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ MinetestBot's message is wrong again 20:08 sfan5 not my fault 20:08 NotReallyNick They are bad for photos too though. They're lossy, so any photo editing deteriorated the image. Plaus, JPEGs are often larger than their PNG counterparts. 20:08 NotReallyNick *deteriorates 20:09 NotReallyNick *Plus 20:09 NotReallyNick TO be honest, JPEGs are an outdated technology. It's sad that they are still in such wide use. 20:09 NotReallyNick *To 20:09 Menche what about jp2 20:10 sfan5 jpg, bah 20:10 Menche believe that's a newer version 20:10 * Hwkiller is installing minetest-git 20:11 NotReallyNick if JP2 isn't lossy, it might be good. But lossy image compression is an outdated concept. 20:11 Menche think vanessa uses jpeg for her ultra-mega-high-resolution pack 20:12 NotReallyNick I wish I could say the same about ALL lossy file compression, but for now, things such as sound need to be lossily compressed to avoid filling your hard drive (I think). 20:12 Menche i typically use .flac, that's lossless 20:12 Menche and compressed 20:12 NotReallyNick I know VanessaE uses JPEGs, that doesn't make JPEGs any less of a legacy technology. 20:13 NotReallyNick FLAC is sound? 20:13 Menche apparently they make some of here textures smaller 20:13 khonkhortisan ☹ Prohibited command 20:13 khonkhortisan for segment = 1, 7 do 20:13 Menche *her 20:13 Menche yes, flac = free lossless audio codec 20:13 NotReallyNick Oh, nice. So lossy audio is probably becoming legacy technology as well. Good. 20:14 Menche i don't know about the size compared to .ogg or .mp3 20:15 Menche why is mp3 so widely used... 20:15 Menche .ogg apparenly has better quality for a smaller filesize 20:15 NotReallyNick Not sure. I don't deal a whole lot in sound. 20:15 Menche and it's free and open 20:15 Menche all i know about sound files is the options on the banshee import settings :P 20:15 NotReallyNick "Free and open" is probably why. Microsoft discourages things such as that. 20:16 Menche and there's .acc or whatever from apple 20:16 * NotReallyNick wishes people would just follow the standards. They're there for a reason. 20:17 Menche mp3 seems to be an undefined standard; everyone uses it, like it or not 20:17 khonkhortisan there's also .flac 20:18 Menche minetest uses .ogg 20:18 NotReallyNick Yes, Mencheuses .flac. 20:18 NotReallyNick *manche uses 20:18 Menche *menche 20:18 Menche maybe it's larger than the alternatives, but i have more than enough space 20:18 khonkhortisan WHAT‽ It's refusing to run because I have a "for" in the comments! 20:19 NotReallyNick Sorry, I'm full of typos. 20:19 Menche although, i use a bunch of mp3 files, because the store i bought them from only offered mp3 >:( 20:19 kaeza CryAngel, compiled but *TONS* of undefined refs 20:19 NotReallyNick It refused to run for me because it thought I was trying to nest comments. I didn't even know comment nesting was a valid thing. 20:19 kaeza looks like luajit is not being linked 20:19 Hwkiller that's peculiar... I installed minetest-git as a system-wide installation; it can't find "default", "bucket", "creative", "doors", "dye", "fire", "stairs", "vessels", "wool 20:20 NotReallyNick Did you install common? 20:20 Hwkiller search minetest 20:20 Hwkiller ... 20:20 Hwkiller sorry 20:20 NotReallyNick Install both common and Minetest. 20:20 CryAngel im already listen this :) 20:20 Menche anyone confused by the 4 different downloads now? 20:20 Hwkiller I don't see a "common" 20:20 Menche https://github.com/minetest/common 20:20 Menche install it as a game 20:20 NotReallyNick I'm not confused. Also, it's five downloads, not four. 20:21 Menche 5? 20:21 NotReallyNick minetest, common, minetest_game, build, survival 20:21 Menche minetest, common, survival, build 20:21 Menche is minetest_game still going to be updated? 20:21 NotReallyNick You left out minetest_game, which is still a thing. 20:21 Menche i though it was split into build and survival 20:21 CryAngel kaeza: im most sure something just missed, coz on linux is compiled and linked ok 20:22 NotReallyNick minetest_game was split into minetest_game, build, and survival. 20:22 Menche so, there's 3 different-but-very-similar official games 20:22 kaeza CryAngel, I'm on Ubuntu 20:22 CryAngel err... on windows... 20:22 NotReallyNick Four games. Minimal. 20:22 kaeza I'm taking a look at it now 20:22 Menche ok, make that 4 then. 20:22 Menche lol 20:23 NotReallyNick Is minimal the most official of all? It's included with the engine, after all .... 20:23 NotReallyNick Yet it's a test game, so maybe it's the least official .... 20:23 Menche does minimal still have the old 0.3.x textures? 20:23 NotReallyNick Yes. 20:24 NotReallyNick Or, last I checked. 20:24 NotReallyNick Checking ... 20:24 Menche and the menubg is still the old 0.3.x dirt 20:24 Menche or was, before the clouds 20:24 NotReallyNick Yep. Old textures. 20:25 CryAngel kaeza: i think is must be something simple, like some flag not passed or some 20:25 Hwkiller NotReallyNick: it looks like it's only tryign to pull minetest_game in the pkgbuild for arch 20:25 Hwkiller which explains my errors I think 20:25 NotReallyNick Okay. I think they fixed that issue in the dev version, though not sure. 20:26 NotReallyNick You could put common in ~/.minetest/games . 20:26 NotReallyNick I think. 20:27 Hwkiller https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mi/minetest-git/PKGBUILD <-- this is what is being used to build the arch git package 20:27 Hwkiller and it only clones minetest_game 20:27 CryAngel btw, some 'generic mob' will be included in minetest somewhen? 20:27 NotReallyNick I don't know, I've been on the run-in-place version since 0.4.5, due to the lack of official packages. 20:27 VanessaE there, now our house has a nighttime security light. 20:28 Menche would it make sense for the games to be split out of the main PKGBUILD and depend on minetest-git? 20:28 NotReallyNick I don't know if mobs will be added. If they are, it might be only added to survival. 20:28 NotReallyNick *they might 20:28 Menche i've heard rumors of c++ pathfinding, is there any work going on there? 20:29 bas080 is it normal that there is a echo of the sounds you just made in game? 20:29 Menche think at least one person was working on that 20:29 CryAngel i mean just some generic mob, with base functions implemented in C/C++ 20:29 mauvebic this is gonna be a BIG shipyard: http://ompldr.org/vaTBnaQ/screenshot_3775414336.png 20:29 NotReallyNick As I said, I don't know when or if that will happen. 20:29 CryAngel as i understand, now mobs fully implemented in lua 20:30 Menche mobs are completely in lua, and my poor lil Pentium4 server can't handle them :( 20:31 CryAngel is what about i say. i think will be much better, if lua code just override or extend 'generic mob' 20:35 mauvebic dont worry too much about mobs :P 20:37 Hwkiller NotReallyNick: I'm updating the person's pkgbuild; hopefully it'll work and it'll be easier than ever to play minetest in arch 20:38 NotReallyNick Nice! 20:38 Hwkiller I might not be able to code or speak other languages, but I can package like a fiend 20:38 jordan4ibanez I can't believe I just bought the original Call of Duty and Carnivores 2 lol 20:38 NotReallyNick Nice. I have no idea how to do that. 20:39 Hwkiller arch packages are easy. rpms and debs are horrible. 20:39 Hwkiller arch packages = one text file with some meta-data and two scripts (one for building, one for installing). if you know bash, you know how to pkg on arch. 20:39 * Menche sees a fellow Archer :) 20:40 Menche would it make sense to split the games out of the minetest-git PKGBUILD? 20:40 Hwkiller yeah, my heart lies in arch; I use ubuntu most often though because that's what's on my work computer 20:40 Menche have them depend on minetest-git 20:40 Menche maybe include minetest_game with minetest-git 20:40 Hwkiller Menche: it wouldn't be too hard to do, but I just want an all-in-one for now 20:40 Menche or have it as an optional dep 20:41 * CryAngel also like Arch package system :) 20:41 Hwkiller but yeah, could just make new packages with the functions I used in separate pkgbuilds. 20:42 sokomine i'm having a problem on menches server. framerate dropped to 1! that usually does not happen even with my bad grapics and in worlds with heavy moretree leaves! 20:42 sokomine something is going wrong there. but how may that affect the client? 20:42 Hwkiller woot, the pkgbuild works 20:43 sokomine any ideas for why the fps dropped so badly? 20:45 mauvebic in 046? it went up for me 20:45 mauvebic from 45 to 60 20:49 jordan4ibanez for all of you who liked the idea of having half slabs generate on the terrain http://pastie.org/pastes/7344262/text?key=lsczkxchwwjm3uscmfuw 20:49 ShadowNinja I want to convert a string of ascii hex codes like 6e to the character they represent, does anyone know how to do that with shell? 20:49 sokomine ok...it drops down in fps whenever nodeboxes are present it seem 20:51 jordan4ibanez That generates half slab nodes, not perfectly, but I can work on it a little if people really like it 20:54 pandaro hi all i have problem ( little) 20:55 pandaro I just completed the last minetest 20:55 jordan4ibanez We've already made a movie? 20:55 pandaro did not create the bin directory 20:56 pandaro on ubuntu 12.04 20:56 sokomine wish that half-slab code would be downloadable. it's on mediafire iirc :-( 20:57 pandaro does anyone know why? 20:58 khonkhortisan Did you compile with run in place? 20:58 jordan4ibanez https://dl.dropbox.com/s/fqz09vxzldftxyz/surface_find_api.zip?token_hash=AAGGV4F_VjkW8mM6CDxfSmGgc0lnvpVPS0gJn-7jWShHvg&dl=1 20:59 ShadowNinja How di I check if a index exists in python? in Lua it is just if array["index"] then, but python does things differently 21:02 Taoki Erm... why do I have no permission to post in Mod Releases on the forum? 21:02 jordan4ibanez you have to post in mod general 21:03 pandaro sure i follow the usual instruction inside readme 21:03 Taoki oh, ok 21:03 pandaro always compile 21:04 pandaro I tried 2 times 21:05 VanessaE gloopblocks just got an update, to pick up obsidian stairs et.al that were dropped from technic. 21:06 kaeza CryAngel, I have been looking and have no idea where the thing may have gone wrong 21:07 CryAngel kaeza: sad :( 21:07 thexyz ShadowNinja: if "index" in array 21:09 Uberi whoa MT 0.4.6 is out! 21:09 CryAngel kaeza: both -ldl and -lm flags actually passed to linker? 21:14 kaeza CryAngel, yes 21:15 kaeza CryAngel, /usr/bin/c++ (...) -o bin/minetestserver -rdynamic -lz jthread/libjthread.a -lsqlite3 json/libjsoncpp.a luaJIT/libluajit.a -lpthread -lrt -ldl -lcurl -lm 21:17 CryAngel kaeza: don't think here any differences, but i never try build server... 21:18 kaeza well... the server is the only thing that actually uses lua 21:20 ShadowNinja thexyz: thanks, might you know how to convert a stream of ASCII character codes like "6a726b" into the character they signify in shell? 21:21 Menche echo -e \\u[code] 21:21 ShadowNinja hmm, maybe, with xargs 21:21 CryAngel kaeza: i mean i check BUILD_CLIENT and uncheck BUILD_SERVER 21:22 kaeza CryAngel, if it does not build the standalone server, then what is the purpose? 21:23 Kacey hi Menche 21:23 Menche hi 21:23 Kacey have you added my skin yet? 21:23 * Menche 's server is too popular 21:23 kaeza I build server only because it takes less time 21:23 Menche oh, not yet 21:24 Uberi Menche: that's one of the better kinds of problems to have :) 21:24 Menche Uberi: not when your server's running on an old Pentium4 21:24 mauvebic puppy linux then 21:24 kaeza ^ 21:24 CryAngel kaeza: well, i see only one way to resolve - build luajit library using makefile and using CMake and then step by step look for differences 21:25 mauvebic seriously, im gonna give it a shot on netbook 21:25 kaeza CryAngel, do try :) 21:26 kaeza CryAngel, I've been grepping and the files containing the undefined references are not linked 21:26 Menche Kacey: i'll install it when nobody's online, it requires a restart 21:26 Kacey k 21:26 Menche if it's installed but not restarted, you get a random solid color as a skin 21:27 CryAngel kaeza: you mean .o files? 21:27 kaeza yes 21:27 * sfan5 just switched from 32bit ubuntu to 64bit ubuntu 21:28 Menche my server used to never have more than 2 or 3 players on 21:28 Menche now that it's on the server list, it never has less than 8 21:29 CryAngel kaeza: so, they compiled but just not linked in final libjit.a? 21:29 kaeza CryAngel, did you modify luajit's CMakeLists.txt? 21:29 Menche ...and the cpu usage doesn't look that bad 21:30 CryAngel kaeza: luajit dont have CMake build system at all :D 21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet for those interested in minitest i have updated. PilzAdam please erase the old link and add versions like you have except put something like [url=link]dev-1.0[/url] 21:30 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82050#p82050 21:31 jojoa1997|Tablet or can i start my own topic 21:31 jojoa1997|Tablet i think i will 21:31 ShadowNinja come on, too many escapes: sed "s/\\\\/\n\\\\\\\\/g" 21:31 ShadowNinja that replaces "\" with "\" 21:32 ShadowNinja that replaces "\" with "\\" 21:32 Taoki Aaand I just made my first MineTest mod: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82051 Really nothing special, but it might be nice 21:32 NakedFury nice 21:32 kaeza Taoki, congrats :) 21:32 NakedFury you got the blurry shader on 21:32 Taoki kaeza: Thanks :) 21:33 * Menche doesn't understand the several forum members who have a creeper as their avatar. MINETEST DOESN'T HAVE CREEPERS 21:33 Uberi whoa that is one sweet flower 21:33 Uberi Menche: boombombs! (mobf) 21:33 jojoa1997|Tablet seen reply 21:33 Taoki thanls :) 21:33 Taoki **thanks 21:33 jojoa1997|Tablet Taoki you might want to consider it 21:35 sokomine the server list attracts a lot of players. some are new to the game 21:35 ShadowNinja Menche: I have something like this being piped out of sed: \\u006d\\u006a[...] I tried using xargs echo -e and xargs -I '{}' echo -e {} but it isn't working, do you know the correct command? 21:35 sokomine i'm still puzzled about the severe drop in framerate. even if the server is slow that ought to have no impact at all 21:35 Menche echo -e \\u 21:36 CryAngel kaeza: CMakeLists.txt in my branch is mix of minetest/lua CMakeLists.txt and CMakeLists.txt from some git repo (i think is fork of luajit) 21:36 Menche "echo -e \\u100" outputs "A" 21:36 Menche Ā 21:36 Menche with a tilde over it 21:36 sokomine who's "sokomon"? at least not me... 21:36 Taoki replied 21:37 sokomine hm. i'm staring at the ground. at a perfectly normal cobble-road. framerate: 1 fps 21:37 Uberi look at the sky sokomine 21:37 sokomine cpu-usage 102% 21:37 Uberi :O 21:37 Uberi it's taking computational power from the fabric of reality! 21:38 sokomine a cloud passes by at 1 fps 21:38 Menche server uses latest git, is there anything that oculd do that? 21:38 Menche maybe i'll try the 0.4-stable branch 21:38 sokomine the only area where i could imagine the server having an impact is how much the server sends out to the client 21:39 Menche see some changes to gravity, and per-player gravity settings 21:39 Menche could the server be sending some stuff about gravity the client doesn't expect 21:39 Menche what version are you using btw 21:39 sokomine now: 0 fps (the cloud still moves). never seen that few fps. not even in a world filled with giant trees with lots of leaves on far (even there it's usually 2-3 fps) 21:40 Uberi sokomine: what's top showing? 21:40 * Menche is going to switch to stable-0.4 and see if that helps 21:40 sokomine i'm using a new build as well. havn't played that much with that version. maybe i ought to check the older version... 21:40 sokomine 101% cpu-usage for minetest 21:40 Menche 104% usage on the server 21:41 sokomine everything else is (as always) neglible 21:41 Kacey eek 5fps 21:41 Menche and my really slow cellular data internet connection isn't helping 21:41 Kacey i had 50 a while ago 21:42 Kacey back to 40 21:42 sokomine hmm. after a lot of waiting i managed to issue the home-command - which took me to my mine. the server replied very fast, and framerate is back to 28... 21:42 Uberi that is pretty strange 21:42 Menche building the stable version 21:42 Menche hopefully the compiler doesn't steal too many cpu cycles... 21:43 sokomine very strange, ye 21:43 sokomine do you have ambience or such installed? i don't think so? 21:43 * ShadowNinja finaly got it 21:43 Menche no 21:44 sokomine sounds played and players moving around *may* be an issue...but not really that much.... 21:44 Uberi sokomine: are you on a remote server? 21:44 Menche i'm thinking i'll remove carts, boats, and junglegrass 21:44 Menche junglegrass has abm's to grow and kill plants 21:44 NakedFury Taoki have you thought on making the opposite type of flower? a Sunflower that opens on daylight and is closed at night. 21:45 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, could you please use an file sharing service that gives you direct download links? 21:45 Menche if a lot of terrain is loaded there would be a lot of abms there 21:45 sokomine can you deactivate mesecons for a moment? iirc there's a huge machine close to where i was standing. i don't know what it does or how complex it is 21:45 Taoki NakedFury: Wouldn't make sense, since you don't see light cast by entities during daytime 21:45 sokomine maybe it sends lots of updates? 21:45 sokomine uberi: i'm on menches server 21:45 Menche how does mesecons update? is it on_step? i didn't see many abms 21:46 Uberi so the problem is clientside then 21:46 Menche of course, fps would be strictly a clientside problem 21:46 sokomine might be, yes 21:46 Menche my best guess is that the server is sending info that the stable clients don't expect 21:47 Menche any other ideas? i'm downgrading it to the stable 21:47 sokomine it ought to be a client-problem, yes. but...why? i'm used to fps dropping drasticly when running around on far in a world with lots of moretrees...but...0-1 fps while staring at the sky? that can't be.... 21:47 sokomine or is there something in the sky above your spawn area that got loaded and i didn't see? 21:48 Menche doubt it, it would be visible if loaded 21:48 Uberi disable fog and check again 21:48 Uberi it's like F3 or something 21:48 Menche build at 82%... 21:48 sokomine i've evacuated to my mine. and got 28 fps 21:49 Menche only other thing would be nodeboxes, and they shouldn't make *that* much difference 21:49 Menche i do plan on toning down some of the nodeboxes 21:50 Menche mainly pipeworks 21:50 Menche and pipeworks also has higher-res textures... *grumble grumble* people use 16x for default textures!!! 21:51 Uberi I heard something about the items looking ugly in 16px 21:51 Menche well it looks ugly when the sizes don't match. make it work. 21:51 sokomine exactly. they usually have an impact, but not that much 21:51 sokomine it's really strange. now, outside, 20 fps 21:51 VanessaE Menche: 16px textures on pipes look like total ass. 21:52 sokomine (that there is a decrese is perfectly normal for my hardware. it *is* a very old onboard card) 21:54 Hwkiller hm... can't build stairs now 21:54 Hwkiller again, what an odd problem 21:55 Uberi which game Hwkiller? 21:55 jojoa1997|Tablet is PilzAdam here? 21:55 Menche what all does dedicated_server_step affect? 21:55 Hwkiller Uberi: survival 21:55 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, yes 21:56 PilzAdam you read what I wrote above? 21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet is this fine? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82059#p82059 21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet no 21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i will see if i can get the direct link but could you please move that to games 21:57 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry i cant get a direct link. 21:57 PilzAdam I dont like two topics for the same game 21:58 jojoa1997|Tablet hmmmm... 21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet do0 you update your topic anymore 21:59 PilzAdam yea, I can add your download links there 21:59 PilzAdam but it would be best if you move back to github 21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec 22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet ok let me edit the topic to what i want you to add 22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet there i edited it 22:02 jojoa1997|Tablet could you add the changelog thing cause it is easier for me to copy and past from a template on tablet 22:03 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=34399#p34399 22:03 jojoa1997|Tablet also i suggest makin versions like 1.0 and 1.1 that way big changes can have 1>2 little changes can have 1.1>1.2 and bug fixes 1.0>1.0.1 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet thanks 22:04 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam check it out there are tons of changes but the main goody is 22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet the changeable gamemodes and the inventory 22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet also could you take some pics of the inventory in both modes and post them in a commenty 22:10 kaeza bbl 22:12 sokomine could reproduce the low fps effect. going back from far view to short (35) did not let the fps go back up for me 22:12 Exio when i load a LOT of nodes/chunks/mapblocks and stuff and my FPS gets down to 20 or 30 (from 250) 22:12 Exio it works perfectly for me 22:13 Uberi 250 fps O_o 22:13 sokomine pass me some fps, please :-) 22:13 Exio hehe 22:14 Kacey and me 22:14 jojoa1997|Tablet geez every minecraft map maker has decided to need to use adfly 22:14 sokomine the question is: why does it not go back up? it usually did. turning far view off helped a lot. now...no effect on fps 22:14 Menche 15:14:17: ERROR[main]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=1319 statically but block (7,0,6) already contains 49 (over 49) objects. Forcing delete. 22:14 Menche i get that when i shut my server down 22:14 Menche a *ton* of those messages 22:14 Kacey i get 50 (which is pretty decent) but lowstill 22:14 mauvebic entities 22:15 Kacey lots of vines on the ground near spawn 22:15 jojoa1997|Tablet it /me all alone on 0gb.us's server 22:15 sokomine oh, server shutdown did help as well. back to 20 fps! (with a static image) 22:15 mauvebic look at the mods youre running and check which ones add entities without removing them 22:15 sokomine i get similar messages as well in my singleplayer worlds 22:15 Menche mostly item drops 22:15 mauvebic item drops are done in lua right? 22:16 Menche an attempt to make vines decay caused a lot of it 22:16 Menche yes, in one of the builtin/ scripts 22:16 mauvebic okay so it should be easy enough to tweak to give em a timeout 22:17 Exio Kacey: i don't see a real difference when i pass the 60~70 FPS more than a "bit" smoother gameplay in very-very-fast situations.. 22:17 mauvebic though it should really be default that after awhile item drops should disapear on their own 22:17 Menche yes. especially because clearobjects quickly becomes unusable 22:17 Exio but MT is not a FPS so i start seeing the "FPS drop" when i get under 40~45 FPS 22:18 mauvebic clear objects + item drops + every other mod that recklessly adds entities = major lag 22:18 Kacey back up yet? 22:19 mauvebic though i dont have problems with itemdrops, when they changed the dig behaviour i made an eraser tool 22:19 mauvebic removes nodes instead of digging 22:20 mauvebic though i wont lie, i prefer the old dig behaviour 22:20 Kacey Menche, restarted yet? 22:21 Kacey * Ping reply from Menche: 1.18 second(s) 22:22 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 22:23 ShadowNinja Kacey: <@ShadowBot> menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.381ms) 22:23 Kacey i know 22:27 Uberi PilzAdam: I just noticed, your builds have different checkmark background colors compared to xyz's 22:27 Uberi it's slightly lighter grey 22:33 jordan4ibanez what is the node_update function? or how do I use it 22:33 jordan4ibanez I can't find the api section for it any where 22:34 Uberi nodeupdate? 22:34 Uberi it's in default last time I checked 22:34 PilzAdam it in builtin now 22:34 PilzAdam just nodeupdate(pos) 22:34 Uberi oh neat 22:34 PilzAdam it updates falling nodes 22:35 mauvebic any chance of having a lightupdate(pos)? 22:36 Uberi would be useful for //fixlight 22:36 mauvebic especially with the latest difficulties 22:37 PilzAdam Im wondering if it would work to have a queue for worldedit so that it can be executed step by step in on_step() 22:37 mauvebic there are lua coroutines for that that work very nicely 22:37 mauvebic works in tandem with onstep 22:37 mauvebic or on globalstep 22:38 Uberi yeah coroutines could do it I bet 22:38 mauvebic god knows, implemented for binvox'es over a cubic kilometer in size lol 22:39 mauvebic fixlight could work with coroutines but 22:39 Uberi it would reduce the decoupling in the API though 22:39 mauvebic as c55 pointed out, the present method is too hackish 22:40 Uberi the digging air method? or the param1 modification? 22:40 mauvebic i use param1 22:40 mauvebic worldedit digs air 22:40 Uberi does that work? the param1 method 22:41 mauvebic yeah but its not faster 22:41 Uberi the original //fixlight used param1 modification 22:41 Uberi but it didn't seem to work back then 22:41 mauvebic both lag 22:41 mauvebic a light-specific api function might be best 22:41 Uberi yeah 22:41 mauvebic works for me 22:41 Uberi I'm thinking maybe it was a client stale data issue that got fixed in a later version 22:41 mauvebic people say it didn't work because it took a long time 22:42 mauvebic specially on those big server with 50+ mods 22:42 Uberi well dig is probably slower, it's got a lot more checks to do and even prints to the console 22:43 jordan4ibanez pilzadam 22:43 jordan4ibanez if not fakestack or fakestack:is_empty() then 22:43 jordan4ibanez itemstack:take_item(1) 22:43 jordan4ibanez nodeupdate(slabpos) 22:43 jordan4ibanez -- Else put old node back 22:43 jordan4ibanez else 22:43 jordan4ibanez line 140 22:43 mauvebic well, if youre digging air, then youre loading each node, and checking the name to begin with 22:43 jordan4ibanez it's a ghetto fix for the slab not updating when the server removes the slab and turns it into a full node 22:44 mauvebic tho the param1 method loads each node, and replaces it with one that has default param1 value, so... same difference lol 22:44 mauvebic it would be much better, and faster, if done in cpp 22:44 PilzAdam bye 22:44 Uberi yeah 22:44 Uberi wait wouldn't the default param1 value be wrong in some cases? 22:45 mauvebic probably, but you dont complain when the area is completely dark to begin with 22:45 Uberi true 22:46 Menche ...apparently it wasn't a good idea to compile minetest in the background. the server has lagged to a stop 22:47 NotReallyNick Yeah, that happened when I did it too. 22:47 NotReallyNick Not much can be done though, unless you want to shut the server down while it compiles. 22:48 Menche i have another computer with a pentium4; it has a higher clock speed but only 1 thread 22:48 Menche would that be any better? 22:48 Menche the current one has 2 threads and a lower clock speed 22:48 NotReallyNick Sorry, no idea. 22:48 rarkenin By 2 threads, don't you mean two cores? 22:48 rarkenin Well, what are the precise clock speeds of both? And RAM amounts? 22:48 Menche pentium4 only has 1 core 22:48 Menche has hyperthreading 22:49 Menche the current one has more RAM, but that's never been a real problem 22:49 rarkenin Hyperthreading won't help much IIRC. 22:49 Menche so maybe the one without hyperthreading but with higher clock speed 22:49 Menche does have less RAM though 22:50 rarkenin As long as it has enough RAM, clock speed*number of PHYSICAL cores is a rough guide. 22:50 Menche think the pentium4 is too old to have multiple actual cores 22:51 Menche gaaa, my dog just jumped on my lap 22:51 Menche down! 22:58 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000 22:58 * Menche notices that Minetestbot is gone :( 22:59 Uberi noooooooo 22:59 NotReallyNick Get ShadowBot to help you on ##minetest-0gb.us. 23:01 ShadowNinja if you like I can have it join here 23:01 Menche ? 23:01 ShadowNinja I have a bot 23:02 ShadowNinja ^ 23:02 NotReallyNick He means if you want, ShadowNinja can talk ShadowBot into dropping by this channel. 23:02 Menche i know that 23:02 Menche tried it on your channel 23:02 Uberi he's gonna give ShadowBot an offer he can't refuse 23:03 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000 23:03 ShadowBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.298ms) 23:03 NotReallyNick !up menche.servegame.com 23:03 ShadowBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.282ms) 23:03 Uberi whoa 0.282 ms? 23:03 Exio take that as 282 ms 23:03 Exio not 0.282 23:03 Uberi aww 23:03 Menche bug? 23:03 ShadowNinja lol, that would be fast 23:04 ShadowNinja talk to sfan5 about that, he has the repo 23:04 Menche ShadowBot is based off of MinetestBot? 23:05 Exio ShadowNinja: ask for a botcloak :P 23:05 ShadowNinja yes, with a few custom modules 23:06 ShadowNinja Exio: would it use my account or a seperate one? 23:06 Menche what does it add? 23:07 Exio ShadowNinja: other account, cloaks are per account 23:07 ShadowNinja A bad work kick module (not active on this channel currently) and a opme command 23:07 Menche i think the lag is fixed 23:07 Exio and it would be unaffiliated/shadowninja/bot/ 23:07 Menche on my server 23:07 Exio (an example? /whois nx) 23:07 ShadowNinja bad word* 23:08 NotReallyNick ShadowNinja: I was kicked for saying 'I don't understand the phrase "it's kind of a wash".'. 23:09 Menche IMO bad word detection should just notify a moderator and not take action on its own 23:10 Menche ...and my server randomly decided to stop announcing to the list 23:10 Menche oh wait, i disabled curl. duh. 23:10 * Menche goes to compile yet again... 23:12 * Menche hopes it doesn't have to recompile the entire thing just to relink curl... 23:12 Menche but it looks like it does... 23:12 Menche lol, ellipses are awesome... 23:13 Uberi ... 23:13 Menche the server list is magial 23:13 Menche *magical 23:14 Menche before my server got on, there were never more than 2 players on 23:14 Menche then when it got on, it always had 8+ players 23:14 Menche now it's off again, and it's just me online right now 23:14 Uberi all the new players and the casual players are joining from the server list 23:16 NotReallyNick Yeah. 23:17 * Menche urges his server to recompile faster 23:17 * Kacey wants an FTB server 23:17 ShadowNinja lol, seems my bot thinks the letter a is a bad word, good thing it isn't oped here 23:17 * NotReallyNick has no idea what "FTB" means 23:18 Menche FTP = ? 23:18 ShadowNinja but I don't see why it does 23:18 Menche *FTB 23:18 Uberi feed the beast, NotReallyNick 23:18 NotReallyNick It also thinks "bad" is a bad word. 23:18 Menche lol 23:18 ShadowNinja FTB = big minecraft modpack 23:18 * Menche is going to keep his discussions over here 23:18 Uberi it's like Technic, but actually gets permission from mod authors before including mods in the pack 23:18 Menche what's it stand for? 23:18 Uberi Feed the Beast 23:18 Kacey feed the beast 23:19 * Menche thinks that the server should print a warning when you enable server_announce without curl 23:20 NotReallyNick YES! 23:20 Menche would save a lot of guesswork 23:20 Menche like, "cURL unavailable, server_announce disabled" to stdout when it starts 23:21 Uberi Menche: wouldn't that get drowned out by the 23654785436245634563436245463345 other messages that get printed? 23:22 Menche it's fairly clean right after startup 23:22 Menche just the ascii-art minetest, a couple other status lines, and stuff printed by mods 23:22 Menche it gets messy when players join and load areas with entities 23:24 Menche there, back on the list :) 23:24 Menche and the lag issue seems to be gone 23:28 ShadowNinja ShadowBot is having issues at the moment and I don't want to spam... 23:34 ShadowNinja fixed 23:49 khonkhortisan qrstuvwxyz 23:50 Guest74057 Yes, qrstuvwxyz to you as well. 23:50 khonkhortisan Didn't you see abcdefghijklmnop here? 23:51 jordan4ibanez NOPE 23:51 Guest74057 No, I didn't. I must have joined after that. 23:51 khonkhortisan no, before, it was a name change 23:51 Guest74057 Okay, Gambit. Got it. 23:52 khonkhortisan But you just highlighted. 23:52 Guest74057 Highlighted what? 23:52 khonkhortisan Guest74057, like this 23:52 Guest74057 Hey, Jojoa. 23:52 rarkenin Hello? 23:52 Guest74057 Hello indeed. 23:53 jordan4ibanez We should make minetest into a fps 23:53 * rarkenin will now greet jojoa1997 with randomized punctuation. 23:53 jordan4ibanez We can call it, test of spades 23:53 rarkenin Too close. 23:53 * Guest74057 doesn't like FPSs 23:53 Gambit I was testing something. 23:53 * rarkenin doesn't like anything that uses a ton of GPU power. 23:53 Menche NotReallyNick got boring? 23:53 khonkhortisan I want to trap the player in pipeworks and move myself around 23:53 Guest74057 NotReallyNick got too bothersome. 23:54 Guest74057 I'm still looking for a new name. 23:54 Menche all those numbers aren't bothersome? 23:54 rarkenin The numbers actually are. 23:54 khonkhortisan I don't like any computer that can't handle whatever I decide to throw at it 23:54 Guest74057 It was the style of speech that just HAD to accompany the name that was bothersome. 23:55 khonkhortisan That includes my computer 23:55 * Guest74057 throws a brick 23:55 * zerogigabytes watches the brick land in Montana. 23:56 Guest74057 I bet my server would survive a brick, too. It's a big metal box. The brick would kill my poor laptop though. 23:57 Guest74057 /nick * 23:57 jojoa1997|Tablet hi 0gb 23:57 khonkhortisan Is there a way to change your nick on only one channel? 23:57 Guest74057 Hey, Jojoa. 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet i new it cause you were so freindly 23:58 jojoa1997|Tablet also i just got on one sec chaacking logs 23:58 khonkhortisan I knew it because of the username shown on join 23:58 rarkenin Hi. 23:58 Guest74057 You can log in twice. 23:58 Guest74057 Other than that, not on my client, I don't know about yours. 23:58 rarkenin My computers would survive a brick since they're too far away from Oregon. 23:58 khonkhortisan N don't reboot universe 23:58 rarkenin ABout nicks, you can't IIRC? 23:58 rarkenin *.. 23:58 Guest74057 Yeah, I don't seem to be able to change the "us_0gb" in my login data. 23:59 Menche shows up in your whois 23:59 Guest74057 Yeah, why is it in my whois? I dn't get it. 23:59 Guest74057 *Don't 23:59 rarkenin Ask at #freenode