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00:03 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com
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00:04 Kacey where's Minetestbot?
00:04 jordan4ibanez Why celeron55, Whyyyyyyyyyy
00:04 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jKpfhVkmF0
00:04 jordan4ibanez lmfao.
00:05 khonkhortisan I can't disable preload item visuals. If I do, every time I open the inventory it shrinks the display into a corner of the window
00:06 khonkhortisan what's a good way to label a button? (mesecons, not formspec)
00:07 BlindBanana khonkhortisan: try to build with irrlicht 1.7.3, this worked for me (with 1.8.x i had to resize the window every time)
00:13 Kacey hey anyone feel like hosting a server for some more experienced people to play on and record videos possibly?
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00:21 MiJyn minetest is down
00:21 YoungDerp ?
00:22 MiJyn minetest.net
00:23 VanessaE the main site is, but the forums are up.
00:23 MiJyn uh
00:23 MiJyn I tried
00:23 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/index.php
00:24 VanessaE forum.minetest.net
00:24 MiJyn "This webpage is not available'
00:24 MiJyn oh
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00:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azk94zCt5XI
00:51 VanessaE meh
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00:56 BlindBanana Bye!
00:59 ShadowNinja hmmmm: how do you want minetest to decide between the cloud or classic menu background?
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01:01 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxk-6GEK6w
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01:07 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvcQ/Untitled.png Let's see who notices the thing I did...
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01:11 hmmmm ShadowNinja, with a config entry
01:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: Broken interwebz?
01:11 hmmmm have it menu_clouds = <bool>, true by default
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01:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: STAHP PRESSING TEH RED BUTTON. NAO.
01:14 VanessaE I was testing something.
01:15 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvcQ/Untitled.png See if you can see what I just did?
01:15 * VanessaE presses NekoGloop's red button,
01:16 NekoGloop VanessaE: Can you see what I did?
01:16 VanessaE looks like xchat
01:16 VanessaE and you have more icons on your taskbar.
01:16 NekoGloop Ignore the window.
01:17 VanessaE *shrug* don't see anything unusual..
01:17 NekoGloop I has start menu.
01:18 NekoGloop (pic was before I reskinned it to a more windows-like button)
01:19 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png Viola~!
01:19 VanessaE oh.
01:20 NekoGloop I found a start menu that lets me still use the metro start screen.
01:20 NekoGloop It also causes Windows to boot to the desktop instead of the start screen.
01:20 VanessaE brb again
01:21 Kacey windows 8?
01:22 NekoGloop Kacey: Yes, with a start menu. It is now perfect.
01:22 Kacey how do you dothat?
01:22 Kacey i have windows 8
01:22 NekoGloop Pokki.
01:22 Kacey ?
01:22 NekoGloop Google it.
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01:23 VanessaE I hate computers.
01:23 NekoGloop I loooooove computers :3
01:24 Kacey they r ok
01:24 NekoGloop http://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu btw
01:25 ShadowNinja hmmmm: I had that originaly but VanessaE thought it would be better to be able to set it from her texture pack
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01:25 * Kacey would rather have the windows logo than that
01:25 Kacey and i can hack it in
01:25 VanessaE no, I just mean I should be able to override one image by providing a different one.
01:25 NekoGloop Kacey, you can set it to the windows logo.
01:25 VanessaE if image A exists and image B exists, use image B.
01:26 ShadowNinja well minetest does that automaticaly
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01:26 ShadowNinja tp images always override default ones
01:26 VanessaE if image_A.png exists and image_B.png exists, ignore image_A.png and just use image_B.png
01:27 VanessaE in other words, different filenames.
01:27 hmmmm i would rather have the config setting... so would everybody else.. if there's no setting for it, and it's only settable by the presense or absense of some particular file, that is really weird behavior
01:27 NekoGloop Fitting for a weird community.
01:28 VanessaE hah
01:28 Kacey heh
01:28 ecube o.o
01:28 NekoGloop The quote-end-quote "random group of lunatics"
01:28 jin_xi huh?
01:28 ecube ._.
01:28 Kacey jeez VanessaE i am taking forever to connect to your server
01:28 ecube that tends to happen
01:28 VanessaE Kacey: I rebooted my machine a couple of times to test something.
01:28 VanessaE you'll need to try again.
01:29 NekoGloop Kacey: See this for the windows icon: http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png
01:29 Kacey what were you testing (i actually just started connecting)
01:29 VanessaE Kacey: just some video driver stuff.
01:29 Kacey aah
01:29 Kacey i just wanted to poke you with that
01:30 VanessaE :P
01:30 Kacey minetest is being VERY stupid
01:30 hmmmm ugh i'd upgrade my drivers but i tried it out on my laptop beforehand and i noticed there was a regression in performance
01:31 VanessaE hmmmm: a HORRIBLE regression.
01:31 hmmmm you're using nvidia?
01:31 VanessaE ATI.
01:31 hmmmm well
01:31 hmmmm i'm using nvidia
01:31 VanessaE ohh.
01:31 NekoGloop hmmmm: http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png Just in case you missed it.
01:31 * Kacey is going to hack in a start button
01:32 VanessaE well, all I know is MT barely manages 1/4 of the speed I used to get at 512px.
01:32 hmmmm what is that
01:32 NekoGloop My new windows 8 start menu.
01:32 hmmmm uhh okay?
01:32 hmmmm why are you showing me that
01:32 NekoGloop Kacey: Ones that are exactly like the win7 one exist.
01:32 ShadowNinja hmmmm: should it only check the setting or should it do other checks?
01:32 NekoGloop hmmmm: Because kittens.
01:32 Kacey how about xp?
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01:33 hmmmm shadow, only check the setting
01:33 NekoGloop prolly.
01:33 hmmmm any other behavior would be really weird
01:33 ecube I swear, each time I am about to click on that link you talk and I click on the text below it
01:33 hmmmm and people will wonder why it isn't working
01:33 NekoGloop which link, ecube?
01:33 ecube your link
01:33 ecube the one you just posted
01:34 NekoGloop Are you even interested in the contents?
01:35 ecube why not?
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01:35 Kacey VanessaE, can you get on and teleport me?
01:35 ShadowNinja hmmmm: should the dirt background be included by default?
01:35 hmmmm yes
01:35 NekoGloop Better?
01:35 ShadowNinja and if so should I update it th the minetest_game one?
01:36 ShadowNinja *to
01:36 hmmmm no
01:37 VanessaE kacey ok
01:38 Kacey im stuck at -213089
01:39 Kacey you have /spawn?
01:39 VanessaE yup
01:39 Kacey ...
01:40 VanessaE and in the inventory is that home/sethome function also
01:46 bull3trulz unity is disgusting
01:47 VanessaE fuck unity
01:47 VanessaE use xubuntu-desktop
01:47 VanessaE (XFCE)
01:47 bull3trulz high five VanessaE
01:48 * NekoGloop raises hand
01:48 bull3trulz xfce ftw
01:48 bull3trulz lol
01:49 * bull3trulz high fives NekoGloop
01:49 * NekoGloop keeps hand up
01:49 bull3trulz lol
01:52 * Kacey high-fives himself
01:53 * bull3trulz high fives kacey lol
01:54 ShadowNinja does rollback/rollback_check load the entire file into memory?
01:59 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSODa09mD4
02:00 hmmmm am i the only one who wants some variant of a torch that lights a longer range?
02:03 VanessaE hmmmm: mauvebic's spotlights.
02:04 hmmmm and now how do they work
02:04 VanessaE you place one on the ground and it places an invisible, non-pointable light-emitting node at the spot where the light is pointed.
02:05 hmmmm oh
02:05 hmmmm that's a hacky thing
02:05 hmmmm i just mean like a super-torch
02:05 VanessaE yup
02:05 VanessaE quite so
02:06 Exio things like a light_max=17 having somewhat "light=15" in a radius of 3 blocks and then 14 and so?
02:06 hmmmm lol
02:06 hmmmm but that won't work
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02:11 Exio i said somewhat :P
02:12 VanessaE ugh....  would someone PLEASE fix this damn entity lighting bug?
02:12 VanessaE (well, modeled entities that is.  carts, NPCs, etc)
02:13 Exio ask hmmmm, he is working on that stuff
02:13 VanessaE no. :-)
02:13 hmmmm not _that_ stuff
02:13 Exio i only want to blame for you something
02:13 NekoGloop Blame him for everything.
02:14 Exio wtf i have wrote
02:14 NekoGloop All the things. All of them.
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02:47 * VanessaE watches minetestserver suck down gig after gig working on /clearobjects
02:48 VanessaE 5.8G and climbing
02:48 VanessaE 6.3
02:48 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXtsr1JzCCg&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen
02:49 VanessaE 7G
02:49 VanessaE 8G
02:50 VanessaE jesus christ
02:50 VanessaE 9G
02:50 VanessaE this is insane
02:51 VanessaE now it's starting to push stuff off into swap
02:51 NekoGloop Kacey would love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_H13gO9pU
02:51 VanessaE 10G
02:52 VanessaE and it just finished.
02:52 VanessaE and the server is hanging on to that 10GB it used.
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02:52 VanessaE fuck a duck
02:53 VanessaE graceful restart and 10GB of RAM is freed up again.
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02:56 mrtux VanessaE, lol.
02:56 mrtux I have not even 1gb of ram
02:56 mrtux run some games, then check htop
02:57 mrtux and it's using 500mb of swap :p
02:57 VanessaE I have 12 GB RAM and an extra 2 GB of swap (because Linux gets stupid when it runs out of RAM and has no swap to rely on)
02:58 * mrtux wants that computer
02:58 VanessaE men, it's just a consumer-level machine, and RAM is cheap.
02:58 mrtux 512MB of ram is nothing in today's standards
02:58 VanessaE ASRock M3A770DE motherboard
02:59 VanessaE the sad part is I got all that RAM for the sake of running the client with high-end settings better. :-)
02:59 mrtux i need to set up a home server, then I can move some of my garbage there. No moar CUPS
02:59 VanessaE and it's the server that ends up needing it the most
02:59 NekoGloop 4GB or GTFO by today's standards
02:59 mrtux I'm gonna buy maybe 2gb of ram
03:00 mrtux so then i'll have 2.5gb or so
03:00 VanessaE got another 4GB here that wants to go in, but it's bad (part of a 16 GB set), has to be returned to the vendor.
03:00 mrtux good 'nuff
03:00 VanessaE however much RAM you think you need, get twice as much or the max your machine can handle, if it's almost to that point by then
03:01 mrtux I don't need that much
03:01 mrtux I use fairly light stuff
03:01 mrtux XFCE is kinda pushing my limits though
03:01 mrtux idkl
03:01 mrtux *idk
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03:16 ShadowNinja minetestserver is using half my ram, or about 3gb
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03:17 khonkhortisan Of the people who talk about their ram on #minetest, I seem to be on the low end
03:17 ShadowNinja hmmmm: do you know how rollback works?
03:17 hmmmm no
03:17 ShadowNinja or celeron55
03:17 hmmmm i know who does though
03:17 ShadowNinja who? celeron?
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03:22 ShadowNinja celeron55: do you know if the rollback manager loads the entire rollback file into memory?
03:24 ShadowNinja and it seems like the memory is not cleared, I went from 3gb to a 50mb after a restart
03:24 ShadowNinja -a
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04:15 sokomine apart from ram, i'd be intrested to know how mt runs on igps of intel cpus. i need a new computer eventually and don't want an extra graphics card
04:29 ShadowNinja sokomine: do you mean the intel HD x000 series that ships on i3, i5, and i7's?
04:29 sokomine yes
04:29 sokomine i'm curious how good they are and weather it's worth considering them
04:30 ShadowNinja I have a HD 4000 and I can run at 30-60 fps at a viewing range of 100
04:30 sokomine (will be used under linux only)
04:30 sokomine hm. sounds good
04:30 ShadowNinja with all graphics settings enabled
04:30 sokomine even after longer periods of gameplay? when much is loaded?
04:31 khonkhortisan I get blind spots if I look at something far away near something really close in minetest
04:31 ShadowNinja viewing range of 50 is always at 60 fps
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04:34 sokomine ah: on page 11-19 on vanessas server, all i get in creative inventory is one node. rest is empty. no inventory images for most of the stairs
04:34 sokomine 60 fps seem to be a lot? why that many?
04:35 sokomine if it drops beneath 15 it gets inconvenient for me. more would be good but is not that necessary
04:35 khonkhortisan that's minetest's limit
04:35 sokomine ah, sorry, forgot that :-)
04:35 khonkhortisan I only prefer it look smooth
04:35 khonkhortisan if I can tell the difference it's too slow
04:38 sokomine i'm glad it runs at all on my current hardware
04:40 khonkhortisan my fov changes based on my resolution
04:56 VanessaE zzz
05:00 khonkhortisan vertical wires make it easier to do crossovers
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05:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it's too bad those insulated wire crossings didn't work out :-/
06:05 khonkhortisan yeah
06:05 hmmmm only 30-60 fps with an hd4000?  must be playing at a high resolution or something
06:05 hmmmm i can do 35 fps on an 8400gs
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07:36 VanessaE night all.
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13:12 Kacey hi all
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13:18 cprofitt hello all
13:19 cprofitt had fun with my kids last night playing minetest -- built a 'house' for my son with an indoor swimming pools complete with lights (torch behind a block of glass)
13:19 cprofitt thanks to all who contribute to the project... hope to be able to contribute a bit myself as a get a bit deeper.
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13:33 Kacey cprofitt, what version did you use?
13:36 cprofitt 4.4
13:36 cprofitt I did not update to 4.5 yet
13:37 cprofitt I am on day three with minetest
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13:40 Kacey you will only get better
13:40 cprofitt yeah, still learning about the mods, etc too
13:41 Kacey i wish you luck
13:41 cprofitt how much is 4.5 improved over 4.4?
13:42 Kacey some bugfixes here and there
13:43 Kacey there is a client side server list on 0.4.5
13:44 celeron55 cprofitt: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.4_.E2.86.92_0.4.5
13:45 celeron55 haha, the yesterday's video that i put on the front page has been removed
13:46 celeron55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLEGYIijXA
13:46 cprofitt hey celeron55
13:47 celeron55 i wonder what the username was and what happened in the comments 8)
13:47 cprofitt how often do you update the Ubuntu ppa?
13:47 celeron55 it's broken at the moment: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+recipe/minetest-c55-stable
13:47 cprofitt yeah, I used it to install... just curious how often you update it
13:47 celeron55 so, i update it... when it's not broken? 8)
13:48 cprofitt I think I am using the daily build ppa though
13:49 celeron55 it looks like the daily ppa should be automatically at 0.4.5
13:49 celeron55 but the stable one can't be updated
13:50 cprofitt I just installed from the daily Monday and I think I got 4.4d or some such...
13:50 cprofitt will have to check it out when I get home
13:50 celeron55 hmm
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13:52 Kacey cprofitt, i haxe xubuntu, and never used the ppa
13:53 cprofitt Kacey: manually install?
13:53 celeron55 it looks like it's tracking my github repo that tends to be lagging behind of the new official one at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/
13:53 Kacey yep
13:53 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5A4FkDqMI
13:57 cprofitt I guess I should learn Git so I can pull directly from that
13:58 cprofitt gonna have to do that if I ever want to contribute
13:59 cprofitt celeron55: the one you linked is the new official one?
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14:00 Kacey bye all
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14:29 v2px hi, could someone please update the ubuntu ppa with the current stable version? :)
14:32 RealBadAngel best way for linux user to compile on their own
14:32 RealBadAngel its not that hard
14:33 v2px I know and I do that locally but I want something quick and easy on the server.
14:34 RealBadAngel i will raise that problem later today
14:35 RealBadAngel we propably need some automated system to make distro related builds
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14:44 v2px That would help :P
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14:45 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on celeron55's head
14:48 RealBadAngel me slips a few friendly mastiffs
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14:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOkTKpStRd4
14:50 RealBadAngel japs again ;)
14:50 RealBadAngel dont you listen to anythin else?
14:58 NekoGloop Yes.
15:01 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, like what? :)
15:01 NekoGloop American Country music.
15:03 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-6ftmw8CE
15:03 RealBadAngel try this "country"
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15:04 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
15:04 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:04 STHGOM hi
15:04 STHGOM bye
15:04 RealBadAngel hi,bye. wtf?
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15:05 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/5Fs9PKF.png
15:05 RealBadAngel GUI for stargates is done
15:06 RealBadAngel im adding now missing SFX effects
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15:35 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmj6CiPRvqE
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15:46 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, try some Polish music for a change.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySQGFnun31E
15:49 NekoGloop I listened to the first minute before raging at absolutly no idea what he(?) was saying.
15:58 RealBadAngel same for me with japanese music ;)
15:59 NekoGloop Well at least some of mine have subtitles, and at least a PV for you to guess at what the singer's saying,.
16:00 NekoGloop And, btw, I don't know much japanese either... ^^
16:00 RealBadAngel ok, draw
16:00 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUU0f3FWGhs
16:00 RealBadAngel listen to some polish music without words
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16:00 NekoGloop Doesn't interest me
16:01 RealBadAngel this particular piece is great
16:01 RealBadAngel JMJ style
16:01 RealBadAngel recorded like 30 yrs ago
16:01 NekoGloop Cold emotionless songs don't interest me.
16:02 RealBadAngel this you think is cold?
16:04 NekoGloop without words, where's the emotion?
16:04 RealBadAngel listen to melody
16:04 RealBadAngel melody is more than words
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16:04 * Mati^1 hi all
16:05 PilzAdam hi
16:05 RealBadAngel heya mati
16:05 RealBadAngel hows the weather in Berlin?
16:06 Mati^1 heute kalt wie im momentan jeden tag :D
16:06 v2px aber die sonne scheint :3
16:07 Mati^1 ja das auch :D
16:07 PilzAdam Die Sonne scheint immer...
16:07 v2px nicht bis zum boden
16:07 v2px :<
16:08 PilzAdam dann wär es ja stockduster
16:08 Mati^1 leider früling haben wir noch nicht
16:09 RealBadAngel time will come
16:09 RealBadAngel a few days more...
16:09 Mati^1 i need that now :D
16:10 RealBadAngel this is a last strike of already dead winter
16:11 Mati^1 come only one, habemus papam :)
16:11 PilzAdam there are also the Eisheiligen left
16:12 RealBadAngel pffft another pop event
16:12 RealBadAngel who really cares
16:12 Mati^1 hehehe
16:12 Mati^1 nice job :D
16:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs
16:14 RealBadAngel brb
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16:44 markveidemanis Hi!
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17:10 Jordach markveidemanis, use a real irc lcient
17:10 Jordach -l
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17:10 Jordach hai Calinou
17:11 Calinou hi
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17:13 * Calinou bumps his hat on the ground, hat bounces back on head
17:13 Calinou TF2 patch
17:13 * Calinou heads to red eclipse HQ
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17:18 khonkhortisan ofc "Change keys" has to actually be _in_ guiMainMenu.cpp
17:23 khonkhortisan yuck! brackets with an if surrounded by conditionless brackets!
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17:53 VanessaE hi all.
17:53 PilzAdam hi
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17:56 Matsetes Hi VanessaE
17:56 VanessaE hey
17:56 ShadowNinja hmmmm: menu clouds on github updated https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/532
17:56 Matsetes I've some problems on your server
17:56 VanessaE what's wrong?
17:57 Matsetes One gold chest does not open but show me a space for insert text
17:57 Matsetes As sign...
17:57 VanessaE weird
17:57 VanessaE wait, weren't those supposed to operate in some kind of network?
17:58 Matsetes The mithrill one, I think
17:58 VanessaE hrm
17:58 Matsetes And I cannot connect to the wiki of RBA...
17:58 VanessaE where is it?
17:58 VanessaE the chest
17:58 Matsetes In my house
17:58 VanessaE found it
17:58 Matsetes I have that problem since I placed other two chest of gold...
17:59 VanessaE wtf??
18:00 VanessaE that was weird.
18:00 VanessaE had to world-edit them out
18:00 Matsetes Now it's empty
18:00 NekoGloop left click to switch to storage mode.
18:00 VanessaE must be a bug in the golden chests
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18:01 NekoGloop VanessaE, it's not
18:01 khonkhortisan ShadowNinja, you could update the screenshot to show the menufooter
18:01 ShadowNinja for what reasons can a rollback fail? an awfull lot of them seem to be failing on my server
18:02 khonkhortisan someone else messes with the area in the middle?
18:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: once it gets itself into text entry mode it refuses to switch back to storage mode until you give it a new text entry (or just hit enter on the existing one)
18:02 Jordach thats no bug, thats a feature
18:03 VanessaE plus server lag makes it really tricky to use
18:03 VanessaE it needs some kind of visible indication that a name has been set.
18:05 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: updated
18:06 Matsetes Bye VanessaE and thanks
18:06 VanessaE no prob
18:06 khonkhortisan I see there aren't any moreores in that picture :)
18:06 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam to add moreores into minetest_game
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18:09 * khonkhortisan is putting the "Change keys" button in-game
18:13 * Mati^1 White Smoke!! Habemus Papam
18:14 khonkhortisan on the tv, but I didn't hear who
18:14 khonkhortisan they all pledge their allegiance and sing and dance
18:15 MiJyn Mati^1, oh, I thought there was black smoke last time
18:15 whirm is it a homosexual non-pedo black woman?
18:15 mauvebic technically thats a lesbian
18:16 khonkhortisan isn't that what was said what would never happen?
18:16 whirm I forgot to add actual good person and charitative
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18:18 khonkhortisan What should I do with the "Default Controls" on the right side of the menu if I add a "Change keys" button?
18:19 * Calinou downloaded terasology
18:19 Calinou ...and got kicked from a TF2 server for high ping
18:21 MiJyn lol
18:21 VanessaE bbl
18:26 Calinou MiJyn: you said it had better peformance :P
18:27 MiJyn Calinou, did you edit the graphics settings?
18:28 MiJyn idk, but minetest always slows down to 25FPS
18:28 MiJyn Terasology is always at 40-60FPS for me
18:28 MiJyn (and no, I have barely any minetest mods, I don't think any of them use ABMs)
18:28 Calinou I'll try later
18:28 MiJyn edit config.cfg, do not use the GUI editor
18:29 * Calinou should convert misa's pack to terasology too some day :P
18:29 MiJyn haha
18:29 mauvebic lately ive been getting 35 FPS, but i had to find alot of economies in my mods to get there :p
18:29 MiJyn ?
18:30 mauvebic meh, like reducing nodes (pipes, tanks, doors) and reducing textures (some i forgot about and stayed at 128x lol)
18:32 MiJyn I hope my framerate will go dramatically up once I get my new graphics card :D
18:33 mauvebic for a while
18:33 mauvebic but then you see your FPS go up, you're like "why not", add shit, and youre back to where you started lol
18:34 MiJyn haha
18:36 MiJyn but mine will be epic :D
18:45 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I found a few issues with your signs fork
18:46 PilzAdam sure, its a very hacky way to implement signs
18:46 ShadowNinja It disregards protection mods that use item_place_node
18:46 Jordach MiJyn, did you mean: PCI GeForce?
18:47 ShadowNinja it replaces the node at the position you try to place it
18:47 khonkhortisan :( eclipse couldn't process some stuff so it added a squiggly red line at the bottom of the text, keeping me from noticing rect( was actually cect until I did a git diff.
18:47 ShadowNinja the character : is not in the character map
18:48 khonkhortisan Is there any point to having the default controls listed in the pause menu?
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18:49 ShadowNinja the first two issues can probably be fixed by simply using a different callback
18:55 Calinou Jordach: no, he bought a titan
18:55 Calinou :trollface:
18:55 Jordach khonkhortisan, there is a soloution
18:55 Jordach Calinou, haha
18:55 khonkhortisan what, display the current controls instead?
18:55 Calinou last time a nvidia card had no number: 1998
18:55 Jordach khonkhortisan, no, use geany
18:56 khonkhortisan six buttons in the pause menu is too much, it goes off the edge
18:57 * khonkhortisan sudo zypper in's geany
18:58 MiJyn [12:47] <Jordach> MiJyn, did you mean: PCI GeForce?
18:58 MiJyn geforce gtx 660ti?
18:58 Jordach my GeForce 6200 is still better
18:58 Calinou +1 for a real graphics card
18:59 Calinou Jordach: lol, no, by far
18:59 Calinou the 660ti beats my 570 btw
18:59 Calinou (just like the 660)
18:59 Jordach Calinou, i still get 60fps in minetest
18:59 MiJyn Calinou, the TI is better than the 660 though
18:59 * Calinou should work at nvidia, he knows everything about nvidia cards
18:59 MiJyn and it's _very_ reasonably priced
18:59 MiJyn lol
18:59 Calinou yeah, but more expensive (and noisy in reference implementations)
18:59 MiJyn a bit, but $250 is still good
19:00 Calinou 190 euros for a 660ti...
19:00 Calinou WTF USA
19:00 Calinou 240 euros or so here at least, for cheapest ones
19:00 Calinou and for the ones with actual cooling, 280 euros easily
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19:01 MiJyn lol wow
19:01 harrison rasterization is being deprecated anyway
19:01 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMisdDJsnnI
19:01 Calinou the future is using sound cards as graphics cards...
19:01 MiJyn harrison, it's _being_ deprecated, but tis still being used
19:02 MiJyn *its
19:02 harrison yes, but not by the true l33t c0d3rz
19:02 khonkhortisan €
19:02 MiJyn harrison, lol
19:03 harrison you've seen the previous film i assume?
19:03 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOocN1BKjh0
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19:05 MiJyn harrison, is this for a game?
19:07 harrison spasim.org
19:07 harrison #spasim
19:08 Jordach oh right, i forgot i've got a youtube plugin that converts the comments into herp derps
19:09 harrison no ur
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19:12 * Jordach is tired of jojoa1997 spamming the forum with useless crap
19:14 Calinou like everyone
19:15 khonkhortisan the code doesn't care whether the function/variable is called changevolume or volumechange, it switches between them depending on where you look
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19:27 khonkhortisan Pull Requested.
19:30 khonkhortisan bye bot
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19:49 TAJIMA Hi i needs help
19:49 Menche hello. what you need help with?
19:49 TAJIMA I cant seem to connect to any servers except one
19:50 Menche which server?
19:50 TAJIMA Vanessa E's
19:50 Menche what servers weren't working?
19:50 TAJIMA ALL
19:50 TAJIMA I tried yours even
19:51 TAJIMA i tried every server in the forim
19:51 TAJIMA *forum
19:51 Menche what happened? did it just freeze on media loading?
19:51 Menche and what version do you run?
19:51 TAJIMA no it stopped at the connecting screen... 0.4.5
19:52 TAJIMA it stops at connecting
19:52 Menche that's weird, did you double-check the address and port?
19:52 TAJIMA yees and yess
19:53 Menche that's weird, i'm not sure what could have happened, sorry
19:53 TAJIMA *sigh* no idea? where should I look for help then?
19:54 Menche not sure
19:54 Menche but VanessaE's worked?
19:54 TAJIMA Yes, but I don't like her server
19:54 Menche it runs the same version, has the same port
19:54 Menche hmm
19:54 troller try ingame public list
19:55 troller or http://servers.minetest.net/
19:55 TAJIMA i used that
19:55 TAJIMA tdon't work
19:55 PilzAdam TAJIMA, can you check if its the same problem as described here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5065 ?
19:56 TAJIMA Pilzadam: it doesn't say connection failed it sits at the connecting screen for ages.
19:57 Menche i have to go now, i'll be back in about half an hour
19:57 PilzAdam TAJIMA, please follow the steps to get the output in debug.txt
19:57 Menche when i get back i can see if you actually got to my server
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19:58 TAJIMA Menche mine is legendofexodia
19:58 ShadowNinja TAJIMA: try connecting to my server
19:59 TAJIMA whats ur server?
20:00 ShadowNinja it is listed at servers.minetest.net
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20:03 TAJIMA ninja ur server woorks
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20:08 PilzAdam TAJIMA, will you look at the output of debug.txt as described in the forum post I linked?
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20:09 bull3trulz hello WORLD OF MINETEST :d
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20:19 NekoGloop cosarara97: I saw your image on omploader.
20:20 cosarara97 what image?
20:21 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaG93ZA/tux-sign-3-640x200-better-text.png
20:21 cosarara97 oh, that one
20:21 cosarara97 it's my signature in a forum
20:21 NekoGloop It's on the omploader front page ^^
20:21 PilzAdam bye
20:22 NekoGloop FOR ONCE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T A MEME OR PORN ON THE OMPLOADER FRONT PAGE MY GAWD.
20:22 cosarara97 I made that cup as well
20:22 cosarara97 there's a very ugly error though
20:33 hmmmm [09:41 AM] <cprofitt> how much is 4.5 improved over 4.4?
20:34 hmmmm many massive improvements
20:34 hmmmm it's like the difference between night and day
20:34 hmmmm i'll check out the clouds stuff in a bit.
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20:41 * VanessaE is back.  yay.
20:41 VanessaE TAJIMA: y u no like my server? :(
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20:44 sapier1 I've just completed initial implementation of a pathfinding algorithm within core, it's still work in process but I'd apreciate if someone would test this: https://github.com/sapier/minetest/tree/pathfinding
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20:57 khonkhortisan when I push 9 my calculator goes to 99999999, when I press 7 it goes to 37771777. My circuit is correct, it just doesn't always update.
20:59 Jordach ^ lol
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21:03 * Mati^1 Who is RBA
21:04 khonkhortisan RBA is RealBadAngel.
21:04 Mati^1 ja wohl :D
21:04 bull3trulz lol
21:04 Mati^1 :)
21:04 Mati^1 RBA have sleeping time
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21:05 NekoGloop I am matter. I am anti-matter.
21:05 NekoGloop I can see your past. I can see your future.
21:05 khonkhortisan You are much more matter
21:06 NekoGloop I consume time... And I will consume YOU!
21:13 khonkhortisan geany doesn't know enough to create ~/projects/
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21:27 bull3trulz MiJyn,
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21:47 goopot Hello.  I'm completely new to Minetest and I'm stuck trying to set up a server...
21:47 goopot Are my problems simply that a version 0.4.5 client won't work with a version 0.3.1 server?
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21:47 sapier yes
21:48 OldCoder Hi
21:48 sapier server and client version need to match (most of time)
21:48 goopot And the best way to get a 0.4.5 server running on debian would be to compile it?
21:48 sapier sometimes differences in last position work
21:48 sapier but never in second
21:48 goopot (I installed the 0.3.1 from apt)
21:48 sapier yes best way is to compile ... 0.3.1 is way outdated
21:48 goopot Ta.  I'll go and get busy with that :-)
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22:12 Kacey hi
22:13 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5A4FkDqMI for the lulz
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22:21 ShadowNinja This in a luacontroller only sends to the second one unless you remove it or comment it out digiline_send("number1", 4) digiline_send("number2", 2)
22:22 Kacey Menche, PING
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22:44 NekoGloop 0.3.1 is a year out of date. (shows you how much progress we make in a year)
22:46 Kacey where does one get the worldedit gui?
22:47 mauvebic forums
22:47 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3112
22:47 mauvebic i think you need one of the many inventories to go w/
22:48 Kacey of course cn made it...
22:49 mauvebic that bad?
22:49 sapier did anyone try latest core with multiple mods?
22:49 sapier with latest I mean after stl changes
22:50 mauvebic stl...?
22:50 jin_xi standard template library
22:50 sapier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6a1670dbc31cc0e44178bbd9ad34ff0d5981a060
22:50 mauvebic looking at the credits mine just says 0.4.5
22:51 sapier having this included mod name sorting crashes or loops for ever (if mobf is included)
22:51 sapier I'm not quite sure but as far as I know stl iterators aren't valid anymore if underlying list/vector is modified
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22:53 sapier ok it's may not be valid not are in any case invalid
23:00 * ShadowNinja just had 11 luacontrollers burn out, all of then containing a lot of code
23:02 khonkhortisan did you preface your code with event.type~="digiline"?
23:03 Kacey i hate when that happens
23:03 khonkhortisan maybe there should be an inactive version of lua/µControllers where you tap them to reenable
23:05 ShadowNinja yes, and they should have an owner
23:06 ShadowNinja And I have if event.type == "digiline" on all of them
23:06 ShadowNinja It seems they loop back and activate the sender
23:07 YoungDerp dont connect them then
23:09 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHIzMg/screenshot_85995330.png my seven-segment decoder module
23:11 khonkhortisan you need event.type == "digiline" on the input and event.type ~= "digiline" on the output
23:12 khonkhortisan _My_ seven-segment decoder module: http://postimage.org/image/c8g79mb4h/
23:13 khonkhortisan it's the light blue 8
23:15 Kacey mine is red
23:16 khonkhortisan I would've gone with a red display, but I like hiding the digits when the display is off
23:16 Kacey i am doing what cnote did
23:17 khonkhortisan each of the seven wires is based on each of the four wires, it makes it a little more difficult to convert
23:17 VanessaE is there a way to disable the automatic fps/view range code entirely?>
23:17 VanessaE I don't just mean setting min/max view range to the same value, I mean disable the fucking thing absolutely.
23:17 Kacey https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/4-bit-decoder-to-7-segment-display
23:18 khonkhortisan don't forget to add a light test and blank wire - you'll need that if you use multiple digits
23:19 YoungDerp ?
23:20 sapier ok current core is broken don't check out current head
23:20 khonkhortisan if you had two digits and you want to display "9" it'll display "09" if you don't have a blanking system
23:20 khonkhortisan "09" -> "10" instead of " 9" -> "10"
23:21 Kacey im doing a 4 bit decoder to 7 segment display
23:21 khonkhortisan once you finish that, you can make other stuff using it
23:24 Kacey i have done it once before
23:24 Kacey just wanted to do it with luacontrollers
23:25 ShadowNinja Someone has to fix pasting on linux, and at this point I don't care if it is a dirty hack for something that should be fixed in irrlicht
23:34 khonkhortisan Someone has to fix minetest for irrlicht 1.8
23:36 hmmmm what doesn't work?
23:37 khonkhortisan every time you join a server or open your inventory if you are not caching inventory images, your view goes into the bottom-left corner where it shows the nodes when connecting
23:39 hmmmm and irrlicht does this differently somehow?
23:39 hmmmm irrlicht 1.8*
23:42 mauvebic random idea: right-click status display for pipes http://www.zimg.eu/i/451224056
23:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: my client is built against irrlicht 1.8 and it works fine
23:43 khonkhortisan hmm
23:43 VanessaE but it does flicker like hell when I open the inventory
23:43 VanessaE like rapid TV vertical hold or flashing a dozen times or more on popup
23:43 VanessaE (and I don't preload item visuals either)
23:44 VanessaE so maybe related
23:44 khonkhortisan maybe it's switching between the node loading display and the regular display
23:44 khonkhortisan but mine doesn't switch back
23:44 khonkhortisan if you preload it should stop
23:44 VanessaE right, for me it doesn't happen if I preload.
23:44 VanessaE I should rebuild against 1.7.x and see what it does
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23:45 MinetestBot GIT:  commited to minetest/minetest: fix typo invalid for loop end 66750dc88e 2013-03-13T16:42:05-07:00 http://git.io/vqPWZg
23:46 khonkhortisan what does that loop even do?
23:46 khonkhortisan nevermind
23:47 sapier sorting modnames
23:47 sapier minetest won't even start without this fix
23:48 VanessaE it won't?  strange, it works for me....
23:48 sapier pure accident ;-)
23:48 khonkhortisan pull request is still open
23:50 sapier another github bug
23:50 khonkhortisan you didn't click the merge button, did you?
23:51 sapier no but I didn't merge it either I don't have permission to do that
23:51 khonkhortisan but you can commit?
23:52 khonkhortisan oic
23:52 sapier no I did a pull request
23:53 sapier so my commit to another repo is included due to that pull request
23:53 VanessaE there, rebuilt my current state against irrlicht 1.7.x.  it still flickers like hell when switching pages but 1.7.x is a HELL of a LOT FASTER than 1.8
23:53 VanessaE I wonder if my copy of irrlicht 1.8 was still a debug build?  or does it matter?
23:56 Kacey my project is a quick thinking thing lol
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23:57 Kacey huh

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