Time Nick Message 00:03 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 00:04 Kacey where's Minetestbot? 00:04 jordan4ibanez Why celeron55, Whyyyyyyyyyy 00:04 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jKpfhVkmF0 00:04 jordan4ibanez lmfao. 00:05 khonkhortisan I can't disable preload item visuals. If I do, every time I open the inventory it shrinks the display into a corner of the window 00:06 khonkhortisan what's a good way to label a button? (mesecons, not formspec) 00:07 BlindBanana khonkhortisan: try to build with irrlicht 1.7.3, this worked for me (with 1.8.x i had to resize the window every time) 00:13 Kacey hey anyone feel like hosting a server for some more experienced people to play on and record videos possibly? 00:21 MiJyn minetest is down 00:21 YoungDerp ? 00:22 MiJyn minetest.net 00:23 VanessaE the main site is, but the forums are up. 00:23 MiJyn uh 00:23 MiJyn I tried 00:23 MiJyn http://minetest.net/forum/index.php 00:24 VanessaE forum.minetest.net 00:24 MiJyn "This webpage is not available' 00:24 MiJyn oh 00:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azk94zCt5XI 00:51 VanessaE meh 00:56 BlindBanana Bye! 00:59 ShadowNinja hmmmm: how do you want minetest to decide between the cloud or classic menu background? 01:01 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxk-6GEK6w 01:07 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvcQ/Untitled.png Let's see who notices the thing I did... 01:11 hmmmm ShadowNinja, with a config entry 01:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: Broken interwebz? 01:11 hmmmm have it menu_clouds = , true by default 01:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: STAHP PRESSING TEH RED BUTTON. NAO. 01:14 VanessaE I was testing something. 01:15 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvcQ/Untitled.png See if you can see what I just did? 01:15 * VanessaE presses NekoGloop's red button, 01:16 NekoGloop VanessaE: Can you see what I did? 01:16 VanessaE looks like xchat 01:16 VanessaE and you have more icons on your taskbar. 01:16 NekoGloop Ignore the window. 01:17 VanessaE *shrug* don't see anything unusual.. 01:17 NekoGloop I has start menu. 01:18 NekoGloop (pic was before I reskinned it to a more windows-like button) 01:19 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png Viola~! 01:19 VanessaE oh. 01:20 NekoGloop I found a start menu that lets me still use the metro start screen. 01:20 NekoGloop It also causes Windows to boot to the desktop instead of the start screen. 01:20 VanessaE brb again 01:21 Kacey windows 8? 01:22 NekoGloop Kacey: Yes, with a start menu. It is now perfect. 01:22 Kacey how do you dothat? 01:22 Kacey i have windows 8 01:22 NekoGloop Pokki. 01:22 Kacey ? 01:22 NekoGloop Google it. 01:23 VanessaE I hate computers. 01:23 NekoGloop I loooooove computers :3 01:24 Kacey they r ok 01:24 NekoGloop http://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu btw 01:25 ShadowNinja hmmmm: I had that originaly but VanessaE thought it would be better to be able to set it from her texture pack 01:25 * Kacey would rather have the windows logo than that 01:25 Kacey and i can hack it in 01:25 VanessaE no, I just mean I should be able to override one image by providing a different one. 01:25 NekoGloop Kacey, you can set it to the windows logo. 01:25 VanessaE if image A exists and image B exists, use image B. 01:26 ShadowNinja well minetest does that automaticaly 01:26 ShadowNinja tp images always override default ones 01:26 VanessaE if image_A.png exists and image_B.png exists, ignore image_A.png and just use image_B.png 01:27 VanessaE in other words, different filenames. 01:27 hmmmm i would rather have the config setting... so would everybody else.. if there's no setting for it, and it's only settable by the presense or absense of some particular file, that is really weird behavior 01:27 NekoGloop Fitting for a weird community. 01:28 VanessaE hah 01:28 Kacey heh 01:28 ecube o.o 01:28 NekoGloop The quote-end-quote "random group of lunatics" 01:28 jin_xi huh? 01:28 ecube ._. 01:28 Kacey jeez VanessaE i am taking forever to connect to your server 01:28 ecube that tends to happen 01:28 VanessaE Kacey: I rebooted my machine a couple of times to test something. 01:28 VanessaE you'll need to try again. 01:29 NekoGloop Kacey: See this for the windows icon: http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png 01:29 Kacey what were you testing (i actually just started connecting) 01:29 VanessaE Kacey: just some video driver stuff. 01:29 Kacey aah 01:29 Kacey i just wanted to poke you with that 01:30 VanessaE :P 01:30 Kacey minetest is being VERY stupid 01:30 hmmmm ugh i'd upgrade my drivers but i tried it out on my laptop beforehand and i noticed there was a regression in performance 01:31 VanessaE hmmmm: a HORRIBLE regression. 01:31 hmmmm you're using nvidia? 01:31 VanessaE ATI. 01:31 hmmmm well 01:31 hmmmm i'm using nvidia 01:31 VanessaE ohh. 01:31 NekoGloop hmmmm: http://ompldr.org/vaHFvdA/Untitled.png Just in case you missed it. 01:31 * Kacey is going to hack in a start button 01:32 VanessaE well, all I know is MT barely manages 1/4 of the speed I used to get at 512px. 01:32 hmmmm what is that 01:32 NekoGloop My new windows 8 start menu. 01:32 hmmmm uhh okay? 01:32 hmmmm why are you showing me that 01:32 NekoGloop Kacey: Ones that are exactly like the win7 one exist. 01:32 ShadowNinja hmmmm: should it only check the setting or should it do other checks? 01:32 NekoGloop hmmmm: Because kittens. 01:32 Kacey how about xp? 01:33 hmmmm shadow, only check the setting 01:33 NekoGloop prolly. 01:33 hmmmm any other behavior would be really weird 01:33 ecube I swear, each time I am about to click on that link you talk and I click on the text below it 01:33 hmmmm and people will wonder why it isn't working 01:33 NekoGloop which link, ecube? 01:33 ecube your link 01:33 ecube the one you just posted 01:34 NekoGloop Are you even interested in the contents? 01:35 ecube why not? 01:35 Kacey VanessaE, can you get on and teleport me? 01:35 ShadowNinja hmmmm: should the dirt background be included by default? 01:35 hmmmm yes 01:35 NekoGloop Better? 01:35 ShadowNinja and if so should I update it th the minetest_game one? 01:36 ShadowNinja *to 01:36 hmmmm no 01:37 VanessaE kacey ok 01:38 Kacey im stuck at -213089 01:39 Kacey you have /spawn? 01:39 VanessaE yup 01:39 Kacey ... 01:40 VanessaE and in the inventory is that home/sethome function also 01:46 bull3trulz unity is disgusting 01:47 VanessaE fuck unity 01:47 VanessaE use xubuntu-desktop 01:47 VanessaE (XFCE) 01:47 bull3trulz high five VanessaE 01:48 * NekoGloop raises hand 01:48 bull3trulz xfce ftw 01:48 bull3trulz lol 01:49 * bull3trulz high fives NekoGloop 01:49 * NekoGloop keeps hand up 01:49 bull3trulz lol 01:52 * Kacey high-fives himself 01:53 * bull3trulz high fives kacey lol 01:54 ShadowNinja does rollback/rollback_check load the entire file into memory? 01:59 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSODa09mD4 02:00 hmmmm am i the only one who wants some variant of a torch that lights a longer range? 02:03 VanessaE hmmmm: mauvebic's spotlights. 02:04 hmmmm and now how do they work 02:04 VanessaE you place one on the ground and it places an invisible, non-pointable light-emitting node at the spot where the light is pointed. 02:05 hmmmm oh 02:05 hmmmm that's a hacky thing 02:05 hmmmm i just mean like a super-torch 02:05 VanessaE yup 02:05 VanessaE quite so 02:06 Exio things like a light_max=17 having somewhat "light=15" in a radius of 3 blocks and then 14 and so? 02:06 hmmmm lol 02:06 hmmmm but that won't work 02:11 Exio i said somewhat :P 02:12 VanessaE ugh.... would someone PLEASE fix this damn entity lighting bug? 02:12 VanessaE (well, modeled entities that is. carts, NPCs, etc) 02:13 Exio ask hmmmm, he is working on that stuff 02:13 VanessaE no. :-) 02:13 hmmmm not _that_ stuff 02:13 Exio i only want to blame for you something 02:13 NekoGloop Blame him for everything. 02:14 Exio wtf i have wrote 02:14 NekoGloop All the things. All of them. 02:47 * VanessaE watches minetestserver suck down gig after gig working on /clearobjects 02:48 VanessaE 5.8G and climbing 02:48 VanessaE 6.3 02:48 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXtsr1JzCCg&NR=1&feature=endscreen 02:49 VanessaE 7G 02:49 VanessaE 8G 02:50 VanessaE jesus christ 02:50 VanessaE 9G 02:50 VanessaE this is insane 02:51 VanessaE now it's starting to push stuff off into swap 02:51 NekoGloop Kacey would love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_H13gO9pU 02:51 VanessaE 10G 02:52 VanessaE and it just finished. 02:52 VanessaE and the server is hanging on to that 10GB it used. 02:52 VanessaE fuck a duck 02:53 VanessaE graceful restart and 10GB of RAM is freed up again. 02:56 mrtux VanessaE, lol. 02:56 mrtux I have not even 1gb of ram 02:56 mrtux run some games, then check htop 02:57 mrtux and it's using 500mb of swap :p 02:57 VanessaE I have 12 GB RAM and an extra 2 GB of swap (because Linux gets stupid when it runs out of RAM and has no swap to rely on) 02:58 * mrtux wants that computer 02:58 VanessaE men, it's just a consumer-level machine, and RAM is cheap. 02:58 mrtux 512MB of ram is nothing in today's standards 02:58 VanessaE ASRock M3A770DE motherboard 02:59 VanessaE the sad part is I got all that RAM for the sake of running the client with high-end settings better. :-) 02:59 mrtux i need to set up a home server, then I can move some of my garbage there. No moar CUPS 02:59 VanessaE and it's the server that ends up needing it the most 02:59 NekoGloop 4GB or GTFO by today's standards 02:59 mrtux I'm gonna buy maybe 2gb of ram 03:00 mrtux so then i'll have 2.5gb or so 03:00 VanessaE got another 4GB here that wants to go in, but it's bad (part of a 16 GB set), has to be returned to the vendor. 03:00 mrtux good 'nuff 03:00 VanessaE however much RAM you think you need, get twice as much or the max your machine can handle, if it's almost to that point by then 03:01 mrtux I don't need that much 03:01 mrtux I use fairly light stuff 03:01 mrtux XFCE is kinda pushing my limits though 03:01 mrtux idkl 03:01 mrtux *idk 03:16 ShadowNinja minetestserver is using half my ram, or about 3gb 03:17 khonkhortisan Of the people who talk about their ram on #minetest, I seem to be on the low end 03:17 ShadowNinja hmmmm: do you know how rollback works? 03:17 hmmmm no 03:17 ShadowNinja or celeron55 03:17 hmmmm i know who does though 03:17 ShadowNinja who? celeron? 03:22 ShadowNinja celeron55: do you know if the rollback manager loads the entire rollback file into memory? 03:24 ShadowNinja and it seems like the memory is not cleared, I went from 3gb to a 50mb after a restart 03:24 ShadowNinja -a 04:15 sokomine apart from ram, i'd be intrested to know how mt runs on igps of intel cpus. i need a new computer eventually and don't want an extra graphics card 04:29 ShadowNinja sokomine: do you mean the intel HD x000 series that ships on i3, i5, and i7's? 04:29 sokomine yes 04:29 sokomine i'm curious how good they are and weather it's worth considering them 04:30 ShadowNinja I have a HD 4000 and I can run at 30-60 fps at a viewing range of 100 04:30 sokomine (will be used under linux only) 04:30 sokomine hm. sounds good 04:30 ShadowNinja with all graphics settings enabled 04:30 sokomine even after longer periods of gameplay? when much is loaded? 04:31 khonkhortisan I get blind spots if I look at something far away near something really close in minetest 04:31 ShadowNinja viewing range of 50 is always at 60 fps 04:34 sokomine ah: on page 11-19 on vanessas server, all i get in creative inventory is one node. rest is empty. no inventory images for most of the stairs 04:34 sokomine 60 fps seem to be a lot? why that many? 04:35 sokomine if it drops beneath 15 it gets inconvenient for me. more would be good but is not that necessary 04:35 khonkhortisan that's minetest's limit 04:35 sokomine ah, sorry, forgot that :-) 04:35 khonkhortisan I only prefer it look smooth 04:35 khonkhortisan if I can tell the difference it's too slow 04:38 sokomine i'm glad it runs at all on my current hardware 04:40 khonkhortisan my fov changes based on my resolution 04:56 VanessaE zzz 05:00 khonkhortisan vertical wires make it easier to do crossovers 05:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it's too bad those insulated wire crossings didn't work out :-/ 06:05 khonkhortisan yeah 06:05 hmmmm only 30-60 fps with an hd4000? must be playing at a high resolution or something 06:05 hmmmm i can do 35 fps on an 8400gs 07:36 VanessaE night all. 13:12 Kacey hi all 13:18 cprofitt hello all 13:19 cprofitt had fun with my kids last night playing minetest -- built a 'house' for my son with an indoor swimming pools complete with lights (torch behind a block of glass) 13:19 cprofitt thanks to all who contribute to the project... hope to be able to contribute a bit myself as a get a bit deeper. 13:33 Kacey cprofitt, what version did you use? 13:36 cprofitt 4.4 13:36 cprofitt I did not update to 4.5 yet 13:37 cprofitt I am on day three with minetest 13:40 Kacey you will only get better 13:40 cprofitt yeah, still learning about the mods, etc too 13:41 Kacey i wish you luck 13:41 cprofitt how much is 4.5 improved over 4.4? 13:42 Kacey some bugfixes here and there 13:43 Kacey there is a client side server list on 0.4.5 13:44 celeron55 cprofitt: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.4_.E2.86.92_0.4.5 13:45 celeron55 haha, the yesterday's video that i put on the front page has been removed 13:46 celeron55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLEGYIijXA 13:46 cprofitt hey celeron55 13:47 celeron55 i wonder what the username was and what happened in the comments 8) 13:47 cprofitt how often do you update the Ubuntu ppa? 13:47 celeron55 it's broken at the moment: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+recipe/minetest-c55-stable 13:47 cprofitt yeah, I used it to install... just curious how often you update it 13:47 celeron55 so, i update it... when it's not broken? 8) 13:48 cprofitt I think I am using the daily build ppa though 13:49 celeron55 it looks like the daily ppa should be automatically at 0.4.5 13:49 celeron55 but the stable one can't be updated 13:50 cprofitt I just installed from the daily Monday and I think I got 4.4d or some such... 13:50 cprofitt will have to check it out when I get home 13:50 celeron55 hmm 13:52 Kacey cprofitt, i haxe xubuntu, and never used the ppa 13:53 cprofitt Kacey: manually install? 13:53 celeron55 it looks like it's tracking my github repo that tends to be lagging behind of the new official one at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/ 13:53 Kacey yep 13:53 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5A4FkDqMI 13:57 cprofitt I guess I should learn Git so I can pull directly from that 13:58 cprofitt gonna have to do that if I ever want to contribute 13:59 cprofitt celeron55: the one you linked is the new official one? 14:00 Kacey bye all 14:29 v2px hi, could someone please update the ubuntu ppa with the current stable version? :) 14:32 RealBadAngel best way for linux user to compile on their own 14:32 RealBadAngel its not that hard 14:33 v2px I know and I do that locally but I want something quick and easy on the server. 14:34 RealBadAngel i will raise that problem later today 14:35 RealBadAngel we propably need some automated system to make distro related builds 14:44 v2px That would help :P 14:45 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on celeron55's head 14:48 RealBadAngel me slips a few friendly mastiffs 14:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOkTKpStRd4 14:50 RealBadAngel japs again ;) 14:50 RealBadAngel dont you listen to anythin else? 14:58 NekoGloop Yes. 15:01 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, like what? :) 15:01 NekoGloop American Country music. 15:03 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-6ftmw8CE 15:03 RealBadAngel try this "country" 15:04 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam 15:04 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:04 STHGOM hi 15:04 STHGOM bye 15:04 RealBadAngel hi,bye. wtf? 15:05 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/5Fs9PKF.png 15:05 RealBadAngel GUI for stargates is done 15:06 RealBadAngel im adding now missing SFX effects 15:35 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmj6CiPRvqE 15:46 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, try some Polish music for a change.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySQGFnun31E 15:49 NekoGloop I listened to the first minute before raging at absolutly no idea what he(?) was saying. 15:58 RealBadAngel same for me with japanese music ;) 15:59 NekoGloop Well at least some of mine have subtitles, and at least a PV for you to guess at what the singer's saying,. 16:00 NekoGloop And, btw, I don't know much japanese either... ^^ 16:00 RealBadAngel ok, draw 16:00 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUU0f3FWGhs 16:00 RealBadAngel listen to some polish music without words 16:00 NekoGloop Doesn't interest me 16:01 RealBadAngel this particular piece is great 16:01 RealBadAngel JMJ style 16:01 RealBadAngel recorded like 30 yrs ago 16:01 NekoGloop Cold emotionless songs don't interest me. 16:02 RealBadAngel this you think is cold? 16:04 NekoGloop without words, where's the emotion? 16:04 RealBadAngel listen to melody 16:04 RealBadAngel melody is more than words 16:04 * Mati^1 hi all 16:05 PilzAdam hi 16:05 RealBadAngel heya mati 16:05 RealBadAngel hows the weather in Berlin? 16:06 Mati^1 heute kalt wie im momentan jeden tag :D 16:06 v2px aber die sonne scheint :3 16:07 Mati^1 ja das auch :D 16:07 PilzAdam Die Sonne scheint immer... 16:07 v2px nicht bis zum boden 16:07 v2px :< 16:08 PilzAdam dann wÃ¤r es ja stockduster 16:08 Mati^1 leider frÃ¼ling haben wir noch nicht 16:09 RealBadAngel time will come 16:09 RealBadAngel a few days more... 16:09 Mati^1 i need that now :D 16:10 RealBadAngel this is a last strike of already dead winter 16:11 Mati^1 come only one, habemus papam :) 16:11 PilzAdam there are also the Eisheiligen left 16:12 RealBadAngel pffft another pop event 16:12 RealBadAngel who really cares 16:12 Mati^1 hehehe 16:12 Mati^1 nice job :D 16:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs 16:14 RealBadAngel brb 16:44 markveidemanis Hi! 17:10 Jordach markveidemanis, use a real irc lcient 17:10 Jordach -l 17:10 Jordach hai Calinou 17:11 Calinou hi 17:13 * Calinou bumps his hat on the ground, hat bounces back on head 17:13 Calinou TF2 patch 17:13 * Calinou heads to red eclipse HQ 17:18 khonkhortisan ofc "Change keys" has to actually be _in_ guiMainMenu.cpp 17:23 khonkhortisan yuck! brackets with an if surrounded by conditionless brackets! 17:53 VanessaE hi all. 17:53 PilzAdam hi 17:56 Matsetes Hi VanessaE 17:56 VanessaE hey 17:56 ShadowNinja hmmmm: menu clouds on github updated https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/532 17:56 Matsetes I've some problems on your server 17:56 VanessaE what's wrong? 17:57 Matsetes One gold chest does not open but show me a space for insert text 17:57 Matsetes As sign... 17:57 VanessaE weird 17:57 VanessaE wait, weren't those supposed to operate in some kind of network? 17:58 Matsetes The mithrill one, I think 17:58 VanessaE hrm 17:58 Matsetes And I cannot connect to the wiki of RBA... 17:58 VanessaE where is it? 17:58 VanessaE the chest 17:58 Matsetes In my house 17:58 VanessaE found it 17:58 Matsetes I have that problem since I placed other two chest of gold... 17:59 VanessaE wtf?? 18:00 VanessaE that was weird. 18:00 VanessaE had to world-edit them out 18:00 Matsetes Now it's empty 18:00 NekoGloop left click to switch to storage mode. 18:00 VanessaE must be a bug in the golden chests 18:01 NekoGloop VanessaE, it's not 18:01 khonkhortisan ShadowNinja, you could update the screenshot to show the menufooter 18:01 ShadowNinja for what reasons can a rollback fail? an awfull lot of them seem to be failing on my server 18:02 khonkhortisan someone else messes with the area in the middle? 18:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: once it gets itself into text entry mode it refuses to switch back to storage mode until you give it a new text entry (or just hit enter on the existing one) 18:02 Jordach thats no bug, thats a feature 18:03 VanessaE plus server lag makes it really tricky to use 18:03 VanessaE it needs some kind of visible indication that a name has been set. 18:05 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: updated 18:06 Matsetes Bye VanessaE and thanks 18:06 VanessaE no prob 18:06 khonkhortisan I see there aren't any moreores in that picture :) 18:06 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam to add moreores into minetest_game 18:09 * khonkhortisan is putting the "Change keys" button in-game 18:13 * Mati^1 White Smoke!! Habemus Papam 18:14 khonkhortisan on the tv, but I didn't hear who 18:14 khonkhortisan they all pledge their allegiance and sing and dance 18:15 MiJyn Mati^1, oh, I thought there was black smoke last time 18:15 whirm is it a homosexual non-pedo black woman? 18:15 mauvebic technically thats a lesbian 18:16 khonkhortisan isn't that what was said what would never happen? 18:16 whirm I forgot to add actual good person and charitative 18:18 khonkhortisan What should I do with the "Default Controls" on the right side of the menu if I add a "Change keys" button? 18:19 * Calinou downloaded terasology 18:19 Calinou ...and got kicked from a TF2 server for high ping 18:21 MiJyn lol 18:21 VanessaE bbl 18:26 Calinou MiJyn: you said it had better peformance :P 18:27 MiJyn Calinou, did you edit the graphics settings? 18:28 MiJyn idk, but minetest always slows down to 25FPS 18:28 MiJyn Terasology is always at 40-60FPS for me 18:28 MiJyn (and no, I have barely any minetest mods, I don't think any of them use ABMs) 18:28 Calinou I'll try later 18:28 MiJyn edit config.cfg, do not use the GUI editor 18:29 * Calinou should convert misa's pack to terasology too some day :P 18:29 MiJyn haha 18:29 mauvebic lately ive been getting 35 FPS, but i had to find alot of economies in my mods to get there :p 18:29 MiJyn ? 18:30 mauvebic meh, like reducing nodes (pipes, tanks, doors) and reducing textures (some i forgot about and stayed at 128x lol) 18:32 MiJyn I hope my framerate will go dramatically up once I get my new graphics card :D 18:33 mauvebic for a while 18:33 mauvebic but then you see your FPS go up, you're like "why not", add shit, and youre back to where you started lol 18:34 MiJyn haha 18:36 MiJyn but mine will be epic :D 18:45 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I found a few issues with your signs fork 18:46 PilzAdam sure, its a very hacky way to implement signs 18:46 ShadowNinja It disregards protection mods that use item_place_node 18:46 Jordach MiJyn, did you mean: PCI GeForce? 18:47 ShadowNinja it replaces the node at the position you try to place it 18:47 khonkhortisan :( eclipse couldn't process some stuff so it added a squiggly red line at the bottom of the text, keeping me from noticing rect( was actually cect until I did a git diff. 18:47 ShadowNinja the character : is not in the character map 18:48 khonkhortisan Is there any point to having the default controls listed in the pause menu? 18:49 ShadowNinja the first two issues can probably be fixed by simply using a different callback 18:55 Calinou Jordach: no, he bought a titan 18:55 Calinou :trollface: 18:55 Jordach khonkhortisan, there is a soloution 18:55 Jordach Calinou, haha 18:55 khonkhortisan what, display the current controls instead? 18:55 Calinou last time a nvidia card had no number: 1998 18:55 Jordach khonkhortisan, no, use geany 18:56 khonkhortisan six buttons in the pause menu is too much, it goes off the edge 18:57 * khonkhortisan sudo zypper in's geany 18:58 MiJyn [12:47] MiJyn, did you mean: PCI GeForce? 18:58 MiJyn geforce gtx 660ti? 18:58 Jordach my GeForce 6200 is still better 18:58 Calinou +1 for a real graphics card 18:59 Calinou Jordach: lol, no, by far 18:59 Calinou the 660ti beats my 570 btw 18:59 Calinou (just like the 660) 18:59 Jordach Calinou, i still get 60fps in minetest 18:59 MiJyn Calinou, the TI is better than the 660 though 18:59 * Calinou should work at nvidia, he knows everything about nvidia cards 18:59 MiJyn and it's _very_ reasonably priced 18:59 MiJyn lol 18:59 Calinou yeah, but more expensive (and noisy in reference implementations) 18:59 MiJyn a bit, but $250 is still good 19:00 Calinou 190 euros for a 660ti... 19:00 Calinou WTF USA 19:00 Calinou 240 euros or so here at least, for cheapest ones 19:00 Calinou and for the ones with actual cooling, 280 euros easily 19:01 MiJyn lol wow 19:01 harrison rasterization is being deprecated anyway 19:01 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMisdDJsnnI 19:01 Calinou the future is using sound cards as graphics cards... 19:01 MiJyn harrison, it's _being_ deprecated, but tis still being used 19:02 MiJyn *its 19:02 harrison yes, but not by the true l33t c0d3rz 19:02 khonkhortisan â‚¬ 19:02 MiJyn harrison, lol 19:03 harrison you've seen the previous film i assume? 19:03 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOocN1BKjh0 19:05 MiJyn harrison, is this for a game? 19:07 harrison spasim.org 19:07 harrison #spasim 19:08 Jordach oh right, i forgot i've got a youtube plugin that converts the comments into herp derps 19:09 harrison no ur 19:12 * Jordach is tired of jojoa1997 spamming the forum with useless crap 19:14 Calinou like everyone 19:15 khonkhortisan the code doesn't care whether the function/variable is called changevolume or volumechange, it switches between them depending on where you look 19:27 khonkhortisan Pull Requested. 19:30 khonkhortisan bye bot 19:49 TAJIMA Hi i needs help 19:49 Menche hello. what you need help with? 19:49 TAJIMA I cant seem to connect to any servers except one 19:50 Menche which server? 19:50 TAJIMA Vanessa E's 19:50 Menche what servers weren't working? 19:50 TAJIMA ALL 19:50 TAJIMA I tried yours even 19:51 TAJIMA i tried every server in the forim 19:51 TAJIMA *forum 19:51 Menche what happened? did it just freeze on media loading? 19:51 Menche and what version do you run? 19:51 TAJIMA no it stopped at the connecting screen... 0.4.5 19:52 TAJIMA it stops at connecting 19:52 Menche that's weird, did you double-check the address and port? 19:52 TAJIMA yees and yess 19:53 Menche that's weird, i'm not sure what could have happened, sorry 19:53 TAJIMA *sigh* no idea? where should I look for help then? 19:54 Menche not sure 19:54 Menche but VanessaE's worked? 19:54 TAJIMA Yes, but I don't like her server 19:54 Menche it runs the same version, has the same port 19:54 Menche hmm 19:54 troller try ingame public list 19:55 troller or http://servers.minetest.net/ 19:55 TAJIMA i used that 19:55 TAJIMA tdon't work 19:55 PilzAdam TAJIMA, can you check if its the same problem as described here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5065 ? 19:56 TAJIMA Pilzadam: it doesn't say connection failed it sits at the connecting screen for ages. 19:57 Menche i have to go now, i'll be back in about half an hour 19:57 PilzAdam TAJIMA, please follow the steps to get the output in debug.txt 19:57 Menche when i get back i can see if you actually got to my server 19:58 TAJIMA Menche mine is legendofexodia 19:58 ShadowNinja TAJIMA: try connecting to my server 19:59 TAJIMA whats ur server? 20:00 ShadowNinja it is listed at servers.minetest.net 20:03 TAJIMA ninja ur server woorks 20:08 PilzAdam TAJIMA, will you look at the output of debug.txt as described in the forum post I linked? 20:09 bull3trulz hello WORLD OF MINETEST :d 20:19 NekoGloop cosarara97: I saw your image on omploader. 20:20 cosarara97 what image? 20:21 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vaG93ZA/tux-sign-3-640x200-better-text.png 20:21 cosarara97 oh, that one 20:21 cosarara97 it's my signature in a forum 20:21 NekoGloop It's on the omploader front page ^^ 20:21 PilzAdam bye 20:22 NekoGloop FOR ONCE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ISN'T A MEME OR PORN ON THE OMPLOADER FRONT PAGE MY GAWD. 20:22 cosarara97 I made that cup as well 20:22 cosarara97 there's a very ugly error though 20:33 hmmmm [09:41 AM] how much is 4.5 improved over 4.4? 20:34 hmmmm many massive improvements 20:34 hmmmm it's like the difference between night and day 20:34 hmmmm i'll check out the clouds stuff in a bit. 20:41 * VanessaE is back. yay. 20:41 VanessaE TAJIMA: y u no like my server? :( 20:44 sapier1 I've just completed initial implementation of a pathfinding algorithm within core, it's still work in process but I'd apreciate if someone would test this: https://github.com/sapier/minetest/tree/pathfinding 20:57 khonkhortisan when I push 9 my calculator goes to 99999999, when I press 7 it goes to 37771777. My circuit is correct, it just doesn't always update. 20:59 Jordach ^ lol 21:03 * Mati^1 Who is RBA 21:04 khonkhortisan RBA is RealBadAngel. 21:04 Mati^1 ja wohl :D 21:04 bull3trulz lol 21:04 Mati^1 :) 21:04 Mati^1 RBA have sleeping time 21:05 NekoGloop I am matter. I am anti-matter. 21:05 NekoGloop I can see your past. I can see your future. 21:05 khonkhortisan You are much more matter 21:06 NekoGloop I consume time... And I will consume YOU! 21:13 khonkhortisan geany doesn't know enough to create ~/projects/ 21:27 bull3trulz MiJyn, 21:47 goopot Hello. I'm completely new to Minetest and I'm stuck trying to set up a server... 21:47 goopot Are my problems simply that a version 0.4.5 client won't work with a version 0.3.1 server? 21:47 sapier yes 21:48 OldCoder Hi 21:48 sapier server and client version need to match (most of time) 21:48 goopot And the best way to get a 0.4.5 server running on debian would be to compile it? 21:48 sapier sometimes differences in last position work 21:48 sapier but never in second 21:48 goopot (I installed the 0.3.1 from apt) 21:48 sapier yes best way is to compile ... 0.3.1 is way outdated 21:48 goopot Ta. I'll go and get busy with that :-) 22:12 Kacey hi 22:13 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5A4FkDqMI for the lulz 22:21 ShadowNinja This in a luacontroller only sends to the second one unless you remove it or comment it out digiline_send("number1", 4) digiline_send("number2", 2) 22:22 Kacey Menche, PING 22:44 NekoGloop 0.3.1 is a year out of date. (shows you how much progress we make in a year) 22:46 Kacey where does one get the worldedit gui? 22:47 mauvebic forums 22:47 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3112 22:47 mauvebic i think you need one of the many inventories to go w/ 22:48 Kacey of course cn made it... 22:49 mauvebic that bad? 22:49 sapier did anyone try latest core with multiple mods? 22:49 sapier with latest I mean after stl changes 22:50 mauvebic stl...? 22:50 jin_xi standard template library 22:50 sapier https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6a1670dbc31cc0e44178bbd9ad34ff0d5981a060 22:50 mauvebic looking at the credits mine just says 0.4.5 22:51 sapier having this included mod name sorting crashes or loops for ever (if mobf is included) 22:51 sapier I'm not quite sure but as far as I know stl iterators aren't valid anymore if underlying list/vector is modified 22:53 sapier ok it's may not be valid not are in any case invalid 23:00 * ShadowNinja just had 11 luacontrollers burn out, all of then containing a lot of code 23:02 khonkhortisan did you preface your code with event.type~="digiline"? 23:03 Kacey i hate when that happens 23:03 khonkhortisan maybe there should be an inactive version of lua/ÂµControllers where you tap them to reenable 23:05 ShadowNinja yes, and they should have an owner 23:06 ShadowNinja And I have if event.type == "digiline" on all of them 23:06 ShadowNinja It seems they loop back and activate the sender 23:07 YoungDerp dont connect them then 23:09 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaHIzMg/screenshot_85995330.png my seven-segment decoder module 23:11 khonkhortisan you need event.type == "digiline" on the input and event.type ~= "digiline" on the output 23:12 khonkhortisan _My_ seven-segment decoder module: http://postimage.org/image/c8g79mb4h/ 23:13 khonkhortisan it's the light blue 8 23:15 Kacey mine is red 23:16 khonkhortisan I would've gone with a red display, but I like hiding the digits when the display is off 23:16 Kacey i am doing what cnote did 23:17 khonkhortisan each of the seven wires is based on each of the four wires, it makes it a little more difficult to convert 23:17 VanessaE is there a way to disable the automatic fps/view range code entirely?> 23:17 VanessaE I don't just mean setting min/max view range to the same value, I mean disable the fucking thing absolutely. 23:17 Kacey https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/4-bit-decoder-to-7-segment-display 23:18 khonkhortisan don't forget to add a light test and blank wire - you'll need that if you use multiple digits 23:19 YoungDerp ? 23:20 sapier ok current core is broken don't check out current head 23:20 khonkhortisan if you had two digits and you want to display "9" it'll display "09" if you don't have a blanking system 23:20 khonkhortisan "09" -> "10" instead of " 9" -> "10" 23:21 Kacey im doing a 4 bit decoder to 7 segment display 23:21 khonkhortisan once you finish that, you can make other stuff using it 23:24 Kacey i have done it once before 23:24 Kacey just wanted to do it with luacontrollers 23:25 ShadowNinja Someone has to fix pasting on linux, and at this point I don't care if it is a dirty hack for something that should be fixed in irrlicht 23:34 khonkhortisan Someone has to fix minetest for irrlicht 1.8 23:36 hmmmm what doesn't work? 23:37 khonkhortisan every time you join a server or open your inventory if you are not caching inventory images, your view goes into the bottom-left corner where it shows the nodes when connecting 23:39 hmmmm and irrlicht does this differently somehow? 23:39 hmmmm irrlicht 1.8* 23:42 mauvebic random idea: right-click status display for pipes http://www.zimg.eu/i/451224056 23:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: my client is built against irrlicht 1.8 and it works fine 23:43 khonkhortisan hmm 23:43 VanessaE but it does flicker like hell when I open the inventory 23:43 VanessaE like rapid TV vertical hold or flashing a dozen times or more on popup 23:43 VanessaE (and I don't preload item visuals either) 23:44 VanessaE so maybe related 23:44 khonkhortisan maybe it's switching between the node loading display and the regular display 23:44 khonkhortisan but mine doesn't switch back 23:44 khonkhortisan if you preload it should stop 23:44 VanessaE right, for me it doesn't happen if I preload. 23:44 VanessaE I should rebuild against 1.7.x and see what it does 23:45 MinetestBot GIT: commited to minetest/minetest: fix typo invalid for loop end 66750dc88e 2013-03-13T16:42:05-07:00 http://git.io/vqPWZg 23:46 khonkhortisan what does that loop even do? 23:46 khonkhortisan nevermind 23:47 sapier sorting modnames 23:47 sapier minetest won't even start without this fix 23:48 VanessaE it won't? strange, it works for me.... 23:48 sapier pure accident ;-) 23:48 khonkhortisan pull request is still open 23:50 sapier another github bug 23:50 khonkhortisan you didn't click the merge button, did you? 23:51 sapier no but I didn't merge it either I don't have permission to do that 23:51 khonkhortisan but you can commit? 23:52 khonkhortisan oic 23:52 sapier no I did a pull request 23:53 sapier so my commit to another repo is included due to that pull request 23:53 VanessaE there, rebuilt my current state against irrlicht 1.7.x. it still flickers like hell when switching pages but 1.7.x is a HELL of a LOT FASTER than 1.8 23:53 VanessaE I wonder if my copy of irrlicht 1.8 was still a debug build? or does it matter? 23:56 Kacey my project is a quick thinking thing lol 23:57 Kacey huh