Time |
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jordach |
uberi, i used irc999 but its workable, but just to hard to navigate with |
00:01 |
Uberi |
jordach: totally, I have a lot of trouble with the chat commands |
00:01 |
jordach |
also, y u no have /me command |
00:02 |
jordach |
anyways, i need to go to bed before i fall asleep |
00:02 |
jordach |
bye |
00:02 |
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00:02 |
Uberi |
o/ |
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00:09 |
NakedFury |
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/17000-linux-powered-rifle-brings-auto-aim-to-the-real-world/ |
00:12 |
Uberi |
:O |
00:12 |
kaeza |
wta |
00:12 |
kaeza |
wat* |
00:30 |
Kacey |
hey kaeza what happened to doing that mesecins extension? |
00:30 |
Kacey |
cons* |
00:35 |
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00:43 |
Exio |
http://blog.makerbar.com/?p=254 i want one |
00:44 |
Uberi |
whoa four hours of battery |
00:46 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, briches ver 3: http://realbadangel.pl/birches3.png and willows: http://realbadangel.pl/willows2.png |
00:47 |
Uberi |
sweet trees RealBadAngel, is that the snow mod off to the right? |
00:47 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
00:47 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/spruce.png |
00:48 |
Uberi |
I like how it uses a thicker trunk |
00:54 |
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00:54 |
jakssoul |
Are there any semi-decent mob mods? |
00:54 |
Uberi |
simple mobs and mobf are the best IMO |
00:55 |
marktraceur |
jakssoul: Is 50% decent your upper or lower bound? |
00:55 |
jakssoul |
Huh? xD |
00:56 |
Elench |
Lower I'd guess |
00:56 |
marktraceur |
jakssoul: Do you want a mod that is at most semi-decent, or one that is at least semi-decent |
00:56 |
Elench |
But people are strange |
00:56 |
marktraceur |
Elench: I know, but I figured I'd be obtuse about it. |
00:56 |
jakssoul |
At least semi-decent. |
00:56 |
Uberi |
we're not quite at semidecent yet |
00:56 |
Uberi |
but getting there |
00:56 |
jakssoul |
Not even semidecent? Awhhh. |
00:56 |
Elench |
I thought I was playing along |
00:57 |
jakssoul |
Are there any that won't crash my game? |
00:57 |
jakssoul |
Or use 2049148835GB of RAM? |
00:57 |
jakssoul |
Hahha |
00:57 |
Exio |
mobf are more "resource intensive" afaik, but it has a lot of mobs and stuff from/with them |
00:57 |
Exio |
mobf is* :P |
01:00 |
Kacey |
kaeza? |
01:00 |
jakssoul |
Any recent movies that would be worth watching? |
01:02 |
kaeza |
Kacey: what? |
01:02 |
mauvebic |
looper came out on dvd :/ |
01:02 |
mauvebic |
the story sucks but the future scenes are nice |
01:03 |
Kacey |
are we eer going to make that data bus mod? |
01:03 |
Kacey |
ever* |
01:04 |
kaeza |
hmm |
01:04 |
kaeza |
will it be worth it? |
01:05 |
kaeza |
I mean, what do you think it will be useful for? |
01:06 |
Uberi |
data bus mod? |
01:06 |
Uberi |
that would pretty much need a rewrite of all of mesecons |
01:07 |
Uberi |
it was designed for one state per node, it's hard enough to make crossings already |
01:08 |
Uberi |
if you wanted to make busses it would probably need to store the multiple states in nodemeta, and simulate each pathway separately |
01:08 |
Uberi |
it could work but it would be a huge undertaking |
01:11 |
Kacey |
but it would make computers in minetest possible |
01:12 |
Uberi |
Kacey: they already are possible |
01:12 |
Uberi |
I can stack adders up 8 high to make an 8 bit adder |
01:12 |
Uberi |
I can make a multiplier in 32x5x8 |
01:12 |
Uberi |
an address decoder in even less |
01:13 |
Exio |
https://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/ wow |
01:13 |
Uberi |
(and that's not even considering vertical mesecons, which I have not yet tried) |
01:13 |
moltenbot |
Exio's link: edis.at :: Austria |
01:13 |
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01:14 |
mauvebic |
out of curiosity, \whats the purpose of adding computer parts? |
01:15 |
mauvebic |
i know notch is supposedly working on a new game with a processor? but im abit sketchy about the details |
01:17 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: You're asking about notch in the wrong channel, but it's useful to have computer parts if you want to automate actions |
01:17 |
Kacey |
trolling on #minecraft |
01:18 |
mauvebic |
ok but how, what does it let you do in game? |
01:18 |
mauvebic |
program in assembly, basic? |
01:18 |
Kacey |
afk dinner |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: e.g. if you wanted to write an ingame calculator to help you with building things |
01:19 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: For example a sphere generator |
01:19 |
mauvebic |
lol ok |
01:19 |
mauvebic |
what confuses me is basically every mod is moving to GUI |
01:19 |
mauvebic |
and this is more basic than chat commands |
01:20 |
mauvebic |
why not a simple minetest markup language? |
01:20 |
mauvebic |
the basic format of all shapes is the same, for x, for y, for z |
01:21 |
mauvebic |
and a conditional on xyz |
01:22 |
mauvebic |
an interpreter is simpler to write than an ingame processor :p |
01:23 |
mauvebic |
and when it comes to generating complex shapes, you do need every bit of cpu |
01:23 |
mauvebic |
i may be able to help with shapes tho |
01:27 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: I think the game is 0x10c |
01:27 |
mauvebic |
thats it |
01:28 |
kaeza |
simple question: is there a function in the MT API to kick somebody from the server without resorting to a ban? |
01:28 |
Uberi |
kaeza: cause a client error on their end |
01:28 |
mauvebic |
force disconnect? |
01:28 |
Uberi |
yeah, like using an invalid inventory name |
01:28 |
mauvebic |
why not ban or prison? |
01:29 |
Uberi |
ah, prison is just as good |
01:29 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: in some cases a ban would be too much |
01:29 |
Uberi |
unless they're hacking |
01:29 |
kaeza |
and a simple kick would do |
01:29 |
mauvebic |
i dunno, if you warn people before banning them i dont see whats wrong with that lol |
01:29 |
Uberi |
I remember someone mentioned that changing some sort of sneak value basically gave you free_move |
01:30 |
kaeza |
I am trying to develop a mod to filter bad words, and kick the player if repeated |
01:30 |
mauvebic |
waste of resources, you cant account for every variation of every bad word |
01:31 |
mauvebic |
and annoying people will find other ways to annoy |
01:31 |
kaeza |
for most cases will do |
01:31 |
kaeza |
and you can always add new words to the list |
01:31 |
mauvebic |
use the prison mods |
01:31 |
Exio |
a mod for kicking on repeat will be useful as antispam 'way' |
01:32 |
mauvebic |
*mod |
01:32 |
mauvebic |
put signs up in the prison with all the rules |
01:32 |
Uberi |
and for goodness' sake, use a land protection mod as well |
01:33 |
kaeza |
RAPHAEL on the forums has done a good jail mod |
01:33 |
mauvebic |
land protection is simple enough if you think about it: default nodes should be diggable by anyone, everything else shouldn't |
01:33 |
kaeza |
even if you manage to break out of the prison, it teleports you back to it |
01:33 |
Uberi |
may I have a link? |
01:33 |
kaeza |
Uberi: gimme a sec |
01:33 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: I think the edge cases are important though, what if the player puts a piston outside of the area pushing in? |
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01:33 |
kaeza |
Uberi: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4383 |
01:33 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [mod] Jail (0.0.1) [jail] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
01:34 |
Uberi |
what if a falling node is in the area, and resting on a block outside of it? |
01:34 |
mauvebic |
you cant account for every node thats generated by every mod |
01:34 |
mauvebic |
especially if you have alot |
01:35 |
mauvebic |
the problem is the number of protection zones, with shared access, thats alot of checks before being able to place/dig a node |
01:35 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: oh yes that is important as well |
01:36 |
mauvebic |
a factions mod may be inevitable: it would be simpler to divide large chunks of the map between groups of people |
01:36 |
mauvebic |
and they could kick people out or invite them to their nation to build |
01:37 |
Uberi |
ah, factions mod would be great! |
01:38 |
mauvebic |
ideally when factions have covered a reasonable amount of their territory the admin or the server could grant extra chunks |
01:38 |
mauvebic |
or you could have warfare |
01:38 |
mauvebic |
depending on the type of server |
01:39 |
Uberi |
or maybe territory wars style, perhaps |
01:39 |
mauvebic |
the basic rule could be a territory (chunk) can be occupied when 95% of the nodes are default |
01:40 |
Uberi |
default? but lots of player made structures are made from default blocks |
01:40 |
mauvebic |
then define all the 'natural' nodes |
01:41 |
mauvebic |
if a chunk is mostly made up of that, then the faction that holds it isn't really using or defending it, so it can be occupied |
01:41 |
Uberi |
perhaps |
01:41 |
Uberi |
what about a base courtyard? or a garden? |
01:41 |
mauvebic |
base courtyard? |
01:42 |
mauvebic |
each faction could have flag nodes that cant be crafted or pulled from creative |
01:43 |
mauvebic |
or each chunk could have a white flag until claimed |
01:44 |
* kaeza |
directs mauvebic to his forum post http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62472#p62472 |
01:44 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: There are way too many servers! (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums |
01:45 |
mauvebic |
pretty much the same idea lol |
01:45 |
mauvebic |
i have the weapons lol |
01:45 |
mauvebic |
guns, shooting' npc's, turrets |
01:46 |
kaeza |
I hunger for a *real* PvP server |
01:46 |
mauvebic |
i dont know how a cooloff period would work though |
01:47 |
mauvebic |
ideally i would place a limit on the amount of ammunition each faction can produce |
01:47 |
kaeza |
nice idea |
01:47 |
kaeza |
also, see my other post below |
01:47 |
mauvebic |
i already put a 2-minute lock on my nukes because it lags when people fire 2-3 at once |
01:49 |
mauvebic |
im working on shields for my space map |
01:49 |
mauvebic |
though its hard to kill players on contact when they pass through quickly |
01:51 |
Uberi |
yeah it's the tunelling issue |
01:51 |
Uberi |
only raycasting/swept tests will help here |
01:53 |
kaeza |
or make wider shields ;) |
01:53 |
Kacey |
back |
01:53 |
kaeza |
wb |
01:54 |
Kacey |
ty |
01:55 |
NakedFury |
add outposts that can be conquered to that pvp mode |
01:55 |
kaeza |
mauvebic: whenever I want to build some kind of shield (for example, using lava), I usually put ~10 blocks of lava in a small corridor |
01:55 |
* Kacey |
wants to know why his internet is soooo laggy |
01:56 |
Kacey |
hang on guys i want to go troll on #minecraft |
01:57 |
minetestftw |
AndrewPH is on both channels |
01:57 |
Uberi |
liquids are perfect since they are indestructable to things like TNT |
01:59 |
kaeza |
aaand minetestftw is banned from #minecraft in 3..2..1.. |
01:59 |
minetestftw |
not yet |
01:59 |
minetestftw |
haha time to troll |
02:00 |
minetestftw |
crap |
02:00 |
minetestftw |
undercoveragent can you troll alittle? |
02:00 |
undercoveragent |
(23:56:39) modo (+q *!*@c-67-190-14-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net) por ChanServ |
02:00 |
minetestftw |
Exio? |
02:00 |
undercoveragent |
is that you? |
02:00 |
undercoveragent |
lol |
02:01 |
Exio |
qwat |
02:01 |
Exio |
s/q// |
02:01 |
Exio |
nah, playing wz sorry |
02:01 |
minetestftw |
why are you on #minetest |
02:02 |
Kacey |
was i banned from #minecraft |
02:02 |
undercoveragent |
(23:59:11) Mustek: .whois Kacey |
02:02 |
undercoveragent |
lol |
02:02 |
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02:03 |
undercoveragent |
hello NekoGloop :3 |
02:03 |
Exio |
wut |
02:03 |
NekoGloop |
hello kaeza. |
02:06 |
Kacey |
brb ip change time |
02:07 |
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02:08 |
Kacey |
ok back |
02:08 |
Kacey |
did my ip change? |
02:08 |
NekoGloop |
no |
02:08 |
Kacey |
damnit how do i change my ip? |
02:09 |
Muadtralk |
you try flipping your router switch? |
02:09 |
Muadtralk |
that works for me :) |
02:09 |
Muadtralk |
not for everyone though |
02:09 |
Kacey |
router switch? |
02:09 |
Muadtralk |
unplug your router |
02:09 |
Kacey |
uuum no |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
then plug it back in |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm? |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
why not? :) |
02:10 |
Kacey |
that takes forever to restart |
02:10 |
NekoGloop |
press the power button |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
so....? |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
if you actually need to change your ip |
02:10 |
Muadtralk |
then try it |
02:10 |
Kacey |
i can always switch routers |
02:10 |
Kacey |
brb |
02:14 |
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02:14 |
Kacey |
well that didnt work... |
02:14 |
undercoveragent |
+b from #minecraft lol |
02:15 |
Kacey |
+b? |
02:15 |
Kacey |
ban? |
02:15 |
kaeza |
yup |
02:15 |
Kacey |
aha i know how i can do this... |
02:15 |
Kacey |
i need teamviewer and another computer... |
02:16 |
Kacey |
and yet they didnt notice kaeza there... |
02:16 |
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02:16 |
Kacey |
hello welcome to the epic ersion of minecrap |
02:17 |
Gambit |
OldCoder, sfan5|OFF, VanessaE: Can you please keep your users under control? |
02:17 |
Kacey |
who me? |
02:17 |
VanessaE |
? |
02:17 |
Kacey |
good luck with that |
02:17 |
Gambit |
They're constantly joining #minecraft, posting a bunch of spam, and then parting. |
02:17 |
Gambit |
Fucks like Kacey here. |
02:18 |
Gambit |
Apparently they actually get together and plan it too. |
02:18 |
Kacey |
damnit i would /kick if i had op |
02:18 |
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02:18 |
Gambit |
If you could put some pressure on them to behave, we'd really appreciate it. |
02:18 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Gambit's head |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
that's really not something anyone here can control, however we do generally discourage that. |
02:18 |
Kacey |
but in all actuallity that was not planned but more of it just happened |
02:18 |
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02:18 |
NekoGloop |
Having #minecraft troubles? ;) |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
well, the spamming. Kittens are another matter. |
02:19 |
Uberi |
spamming the IRC is not very useful in any way |
02:19 |
Gambit |
VanessaE: I understand. |
02:19 |
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02:19 |
Gambit |
Well thanks. |
02:19 |
* VanessaE |
goes back to coding |
02:19 |
NekoGloop |
For a second i thought that was our gambit, the one who made the minetoon pack. |
02:19 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: They'd have about 30 seconds to use the nick :P |
02:19 |
mgodzilla |
hmm... |
02:20 |
NekoGloop |
Then i remembered the month or so before i was banned in #minecraft. |
02:20 |
Kacey |
AndrewPH is on both channels |
02:20 |
mgodzilla |
what's this channel for, gambit? |
02:21 |
Kacey |
minetest related stuff |
02:21 |
Gambit |
mgodzilla: Minetest; An open source game in the same genre as minecraft. |
02:21 |
Kacey |
ITS BETTER THAN MINECRAP!!!!! |
02:21 |
VanessaE |
Kacey, don't. |
02:21 |
mgodzilla |
nice... |
02:21 |
NakedFury |
minecraft in C++ with Lua for modding |
02:21 |
mgodzilla |
ware aperson? |
02:21 |
NekoGloop |
voxel isnt a genre. |
02:22 |
NakedFury |
and we don't condone(correct word?) going to minecraft channell and spamming or trolling |
02:22 |
mgodzilla |
anyway...just curious. :) |
02:22 |
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02:22 |
NekoGloop |
yes NakedFury, that is the right word. |
02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Mainly i play minecraft only because of the server minigames. |
02:22 |
Gambit |
Kacey: You're doing a terrible job representing this project. |
02:22 |
Kacey |
project? |
02:22 |
Gambit |
Like seriously, be a good freenode citizen. |
02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Ghostcraft, skyblock, survival games, etc. |
02:23 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: This is, sadly, his normal activity. |
02:23 |
Uberi |
this is how quite a few people are, normally |
02:23 |
Kacey |
alongside eating all of NekoGloop's internet kittens |
02:23 |
NekoGloop |
And then you have landmine, which is an entirely different topic. |
02:24 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: knock it off before you get booted outta here too. |
02:24 |
Kacey |
at least im not landmine |
02:24 |
VanessaE |
that much is true. |
02:24 |
Kacey |
and i have been good all week |
02:25 |
Kacey |
i had to let it out |
02:25 |
NekoGloop |
Until someone from #minecraft joined |
02:25 |
Kacey |
kaeza also went on #minecraft iirc |
02:25 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: IRC it not the place to let it out, here or in #minecraft |
02:26 |
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02:27 |
Kacey |
it appears that half of #minecraft followed Gambit |
02:27 |
NekoGloop |
I have join messages off |
02:27 |
Gambit |
Yeah apparently they love drama. <_< |
02:27 |
NekoGloop |
I think that is currently a good descision |
02:28 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: well #minetest == drama so tell them to stay. |
02:28 |
Kacey |
only when windows comes up it is drama lol |
02:28 |
mauvebic |
lol |
02:28 |
kaeza |
Kacey: yeah, so? |
02:28 |
mauvebic |
minetest is drama, yes lol |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
ahem, you really want to start that? |
02:29 |
Gambit |
FSF zealousy is absolutely not how you promote a FOSS project. |
02:29 |
Kacey |
idk ive started drama already |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
Was i promoting the project? |
02:29 |
Gambit |
Kacey: You need be more ESR than RMS. |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
No, just the channel. |
02:29 |
Kacey |
more would be fun but there would be a /kick following |
02:29 |
mauvebic |
http://goo.gl/Wg6NS |
02:29 |
NekoGloop |
;-) |
02:30 |
VanessaE |
fwiw, I have a KICK ASS conifers + jungletrees mod in the works :-) |
02:30 |
NekoGloop |
Sweet. |
02:30 |
Kacey |
nice |
02:30 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: make jungle plants gen again somehow around the trees! |
02:30 |
VanessaE |
I will. |
02:30 |
NekoGloop |
She'll just use the same perlin as the jungle grass does. |
02:30 |
Uberi |
then the jungle tree saplings could randomly spawn jungle grass around them, making jungle grass renewable |
02:30 |
NakedFury |
bad PR for minetest this thing brought us |
02:30 |
* Kacey |
is going to go code something or other for a while |
02:31 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: spot on :-) |
02:31 |
VanessaE |
however, there are some biome limits on the trees that aren't applied to grass. |
02:31 |
Gambit |
I've been keeping an eye on minetest since way way back when it was first announced - before #minecraft was even a channel yet - and I look forward to seeing where it goes. Please all crack down on the assholes within your community, and best of luck. Bye. |
02:31 |
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02:31 |
NekoGloop |
This ^ |
02:31 |
mauvebic |
just one? |
02:32 |
NekoGloop |
just one what. |
02:32 |
mauvebic |
lol |
02:32 |
Uberi |
well he was very civil |
02:32 |
NekoGloop |
He is very civil. |
02:32 |
NekoGloop |
Much more than most other people i've met irl or in irc. |
02:32 |
mauvebic |
simple solution, kick people who gloat about spamming other channels, any |
02:33 |
NekoGloop |
so kick kaeza. |
02:33 |
NekoGloop |
:-) |
02:33 |
* Kacey |
is back from his popcorn break |
02:33 |
mauvebic |
in future |
02:33 |
kaeza |
lolwut |
02:33 |
NekoGloop |
We could use a /topic with some actual rules in it. |
02:33 |
Kacey |
i wasn't spamming |
02:33 |
mauvebic |
cuz if you let it slide here, eventually theyll let it slide for their users too... |
02:34 |
mauvebic |
and they outnumber us |
02:34 |
Uberi |
yeah I don't see any rules in the topic |
02:35 |
kaeza |
I just asked why they banned everyone who mentioned minetest (spamming or not) and Gambit just went "fck you" |
02:35 |
mauvebic |
thats because some of our users have been doing this for a while now |
02:35 |
NekoGloop |
They remember me, whether they remember me as me or not. |
02:35 |
mauvebic |
and it really doesn't give free software a good name |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
\:D/ |
02:36 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: To hear most people tell it, nobody gives free software a good name :/ |
02:36 |
mauvebic |
and that excuses spamming the MC channels? |
02:36 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I do not understand your emoticon |
02:36 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, I was just saying. |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: :D with raised arms. it's \o/ times 10. |
02:36 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
02:36 |
kaeza |
lol marktraceur |
02:37 |
NekoGloop |
It's generally a trollface, marktraceur |
02:37 |
mauvebic |
when it comes to free software, we have to deal with our own lot first lol |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
um, not in this case :-) |
02:37 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
02:37 |
NekoGloop |
In that usage it represents extreme happiness. |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
it's a YAY!!!! face. :-) |
02:37 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: err... no README? |
02:37 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm much more interested in getting this community to treat newcomers with friendliness, as opposed to getting #minecraft to not be dicks |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
working on it. |
02:37 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ^ |
02:37 |
Exio |
VanessaE: \o\ \o| |o/ /o/ |o| \o/ |
02:37 |
Exio |
:P |
02:38 |
kaeza |
/o |
02:38 |
Exio |
/o\ |
02:38 |
kaeza |
(o |
02:38 |
Kacey |
<o salute |
02:38 |
marktraceur |
.o. ,o, -o- \o/ -o- ,o, .o. (do the wave!) |
02:38 |
VanessaE |
there, now it has a readme :-) |
02:38 |
NekoGloop |
<o> relaxing on the couch. |
02:38 |
mauvebic |
our players are spamming their channels and we're being dicks? |
02:38 |
mauvebic |
*theyre |
02:38 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Or anime gangster walk |
02:39 |
VanessaE |
(shamelessly stolen from the comments at the top of init.lua :D ) |
02:39 |
NekoGloop |
Haha. |
02:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: +10000000 |
02:39 |
kaeza |
+10000000 to RBA too :D |
02:39 |
Kacey |
|o| falling down a water slide |
02:39 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Well, if you ban someone for simply mentioning minetest, yeah, you're being a dick. Obviously whoever is spamming the channel is also a dick, but so is anyone who generalizes like that. |
02:39 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: agreed |
02:40 |
mauvebic |
perhaps they associate minetest with spam and zealotry |
02:40 |
kaeza |
that's what actually happened to me right now |
02:40 |
marktraceur |
*shrug* |
02:41 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'd guess it's more likely that they simply don't like the competition being in their channel. But that's just a theory. |
02:41 |
mauvebic |
all i know is since i joined minetest people have been bragging about spamming their channels so im not surprised they react this way now |
02:41 |
kaeza |
Gambit responded "F you", I asked him to not insult me, he called me a$$hole, so I called him a$$hole, ???, prof...err..ban |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
Generally you should keep minetest in #minetest and minecraft in #minecraft |
02:42 |
NekoGloop |
I cant; i'm banned :-) |
02:42 |
mauvebic |
well yeah but some people see it as a battle to convert people from MC |
02:43 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: yes, so you suggest we should ban anyone who tlks about MC? no. Just the spammers |
02:43 |
kaeza |
talks* |
02:43 |
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02:43 |
mauvebic |
MC is a commercial product |
02:43 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: This is exactly my policy, yes. |
02:43 |
Uberi |
we're discussing the spam issue in #minecraft, right now |
02:44 |
NekoGloop |
Gasp |
02:44 |
NekoGloop |
Something productive happening in #minecraft |
02:44 |
Kacey |
it wasnt spamm |
02:44 |
Kacey |
spam* |
02:44 |
NekoGloop |
World is going to end. |
02:44 |
mauvebic |
do you seriously think a commercial product will give you space to advertise the competition? |
02:44 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: about banning MC users? or the spammers? |
02:44 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I don't ban people, obviously, for talking about Minecraft. We would have nobody in the channel if I did. |
02:45 |
mauvebic |
go talk about star wars on a star trek forum |
02:45 |
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02:45 |
Kacey |
that is fun lol |
02:45 |
mauvebic |
yeah well, there's also a correlation between shit-disturbing and griefing |
02:46 |
mauvebic |
after all, they dont have to pay to come grief our shit lol |
02:46 |
Kacey |
i never see Kray talk... |
02:47 |
NekoGloop |
That's cuz he doesnt. |
02:47 |
kaeza |
neither half of the user list for that matter |
02:47 |
mauvebic |
seriously lol |
02:47 |
Gambit |
There's not going to be any "retribution". lol. Here's the thing these spammers don't realize. #minecraft is a channel on freenode for a cross platform java game. |
02:47 |
Uberi |
I always wonder about that |
02:47 |
Gambit |
Half of us are linux users. |
02:47 |
Gambit |
Probably a quarter of us are FOSS devs. |
02:48 |
Gambit |
They're not accomplishing anything. |
02:48 |
marktraceur |
Probably 80% or more are GNU users, I'd imagine :) |
02:48 |
mauvebic |
not all of us are immature (<18) |
02:48 |
Kacey |
if Notch and c55 were to talk on irc i wonder what woulld happen... |
02:48 |
* marktraceur |
speculates wildly to make not much of a point |
02:48 |
Kacey |
would* |
02:48 |
Exio |
mauvebic: "immature" isn't the same as "<18" |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey: You've said that before, and i have said that nothing would come of it before. |
02:49 |
Uberi |
definitely, Exio |
02:49 |
Kacey |
no i havent... |
02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Round here, that number is closer to 90% linux users. |
02:49 |
mauvebic |
and were converting more ubuntu users every day lol |
02:49 |
Kacey |
it was 89%bbut then i found linux |
02:49 |
Gambit |
Yeah well, #minecraft attracts all the redditors too >_> |
02:49 |
kaeza |
Gambit: except for NekoGloop. |
02:50 |
* kaeza |
gives NekoGloop a linux CD |
02:50 |
NekoGloop |
Me, jordach, and one other person whose name escapes me. |
02:50 |
* mauvebic |
gives kaeza an AOL cd |
02:50 |
NekoGloop |
The only people here who use windows. |
02:50 |
kaeza |
DO NOT WANT!!! |
02:50 |
mauvebic |
but you can use it as a coaster |
02:50 |
* Kacey |
hands himself a live usb |
02:50 |
kaeza |
lol |
02:50 |
kaeza |
AOL? |
02:51 |
mauvebic |
i still have some of those lying around lol |
02:51 |
Uberi |
whoa |
02:51 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: The reason i dont use linux is because it doesnt load. |
02:51 |
Uberi |
does the 30 day trial still work? |
02:51 |
mauvebic |
doubtful but some of them come with IE 4! |
02:51 |
kaeza |
Uberi: I lol'd |
02:51 |
mauvebic |
lol |
02:52 |
mauvebic |
i even have one of those big floppies |
02:52 |
Uberi |
IE4 is the best browser ever! |
02:52 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: what do you mean by 'doesn't load'? |
02:52 |
Uberi |
it makes the malware author's job effortless! |
02:52 |
NekoGloop |
As in it doesnt load? ;-) |
02:52 |
kaeza |
boot* ? |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4394 |
02:52 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
02:52 |
NekoGloop |
No, it simply doesnt load that it exists. |
02:52 |
NekoGloop |
Also, who killed moltenbot. |
02:53 |
Kacey |
Gambit: i once tryed to sign up for MC but then i realized it cost 30 dollars... |
02:53 |
mauvebic |
mr peacock, in the library, with the pipe-wrench |
02:53 |
NekoGloop |
26.95* |
02:53 |
NekoGloop |
IIRC. |
02:53 |
Kacey |
$30 |
02:53 |
NekoGloop |
Idk, it's on the giftcard i bought for me :3 |
02:53 |
* Kacey |
has no money |
02:53 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: it's ignoring VanessaE |
02:54 |
kaeza |
:P |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: at my request. |
02:54 |
Uberi |
can I get it to ignore me too? |
02:54 |
NekoGloop |
That's obvious by the fact that you are using linux and minetest, Kacey. |
02:54 |
NekoGloop |
;-) |
02:54 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: BTW +10000000 again |
02:54 |
kaeza |
gotta try that |
02:55 |
Kacey |
but i hae a $100 usb stick |
02:55 |
* NekoGloop |
randomly puts another kitten on Gambit's head |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: ask iqualfragile |
02:55 |
Uberi |
will do |
02:55 |
* mauvebic |
puts on black stockings |
02:56 |
kaeza |
can I get moltenbot to ignore me? I want to post this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ |
02:56 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube |
02:56 |
kaeza |
d*mn moltenbot |
02:56 |
* Kacey |
finds a pouch of catnip |
02:57 |
Uberi |
heheheh |
02:57 |
* Kacey |
waves it in front of NekoGloop |
02:57 |
* mauvebic |
does weird cat noises |
02:57 |
NekoGloop |
You want it to ignore you? |
02:57 |
* mauvebic |
pukes a hairball |
02:57 |
NekoGloop |
Get ipv6 |
02:57 |
Uberi |
I would, but it costs extra for my ISP |
02:57 |
NekoGloop |
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Gl9gPdG2w |
02:58 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi: iPad: the only thing good about it is auto ipv6 |
02:58 |
Uberi |
hey VanessaE, does that have separate saplings for each type of tree? |
02:58 |
mauvebic |
and it makes an attractive cheese-cutting board |
02:58 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: yes |
02:58 |
Kacey |
NekoGloop: do you want the catnip or not? |
02:59 |
VanessaE |
damn map generator is SOOOOOO SLOOOOOW lately...and this is single player mode... |
02:59 |
* Kacey |
must go to bed now |
03:00 |
VanessaE |
(and my code isn't actually executing that much) |
03:00 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: spawn_tree is a bit slower than I imagined |
03:01 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: actually it's very very fast |
03:02 |
VanessaE |
what's slow is getting the map loaded in the first place so there's something for them to spawn on :-) |
03:03 |
Exio |
are you using the new tree API? |
03:03 |
VanessaE |
yup |
03:03 |
Exio |
:P nice |
03:04 |
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03:04 |
kaeza |
dafuq? modem is acting weird again... |
03:05 |
mauvebic |
marmalade |
03:05 |
mauvebic |
it fixes everything |
03:06 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: when isn't it? |
03:07 |
mauvebic |
try renewing your IP the ddos might stop lol |
03:07 |
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03:07 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: About - Minetest |
03:08 |
mauvebic |
sweet |
03:09 |
marktraceur |
The topic change is my way of saying "misbehave here, I'll take action; misbehave elsewhere while you representing this project, I'll still take action" |
03:09 |
marktraceur |
"while you're"* |
03:09 |
mauvebic |
the penalty is chemical castration |
03:09 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Well, digital castration. +q. |
03:09 |
mauvebic |
so unless you want to be like justin bieber, behave |
03:10 |
NekoGloop |
FALCON PAWNCH. |
03:10 |
* NekoGloop |
random |
03:10 |
mauvebic |
though you people are so much more tactful than i would be lol |
03:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: You learn to be tactful as you interact more with people, I think |
03:11 |
mauvebic |
poppycock, the world needs asses like me :p lol |
03:12 |
mauvebic |
its usually the asses who die the oldest too lol |
03:13 |
mauvebic |
my great grandfather used to shoot in the general vicinity of any sollicitors who came near his property, by comparison im pretty sociable lol |
03:14 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm considering something like that. I mean, I'll use airsoft, but still. |
03:14 |
mauvebic |
airsoft? |
03:14 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It's like paintball, except less cartoon-like |
03:14 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Small BBs that don't penetrate skin |
03:15 |
mauvebic |
ive been shoot with a bb gun lol it burns |
03:15 |
marktraceur |
Yeah, that's a bad plan mmkay |
03:15 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Airsoft at close range hurts like a bitch, too |
03:15 |
mauvebic |
you get that many solicitors? |
03:17 |
mauvebic |
out in the country i dont get many tradespeople knocking but the fucking jehovas and missionaries drive me nuts lol |
03:17 |
mauvebic |
it borders on harassment sometimes lol |
03:18 |
mauvebic |
they seem to assume low rent = low IQ |
03:18 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, but I also intend to implement this plan w/r/t other people who enter my property. I may engineer parts of that situation, too. |
03:19 |
mauvebic |
put a sign that says "Please Use Other Door" lol |
03:21 |
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03:22 |
NakedFury |
"solicitors and religious people use side door" |
03:22 |
Uberi|Away |
who says airsoft doesn't penetrate skin!? |
03:23 |
mauvebic |
thank god i havent had a landline in years because my family never stops bitching about telemarketting and robocalls |
03:23 |
mauvebic |
fancy that, paying to be harassed lol |
03:23 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Like I'm going to let in religious people. Please. They can't be trusted. |
03:23 |
* marktraceur |
kids |
03:23 |
mauvebic |
like paying for cable to watch 15 minutes of commercials and 19 minutes of story |
03:23 |
NakedFury |
anyone using the side door is to be shot on sight |
03:24 |
mauvebic |
electrify the handle |
03:24 |
Uberi |
put chunky peanut butter on it |
03:24 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Something tells me that might be slightly illegal |
03:24 |
NakedFury |
mauvebic its 44 minutes of shows and the rest commercials. or 22 minutes of shows and rest commercial |
03:24 |
mauvebic |
only if there are witnesses |
03:24 |
marktraceur |
Or, you know, a body |
03:25 |
NakedFury |
place a sign that says handle has current |
03:25 |
mauvebic |
pig farms |
03:25 |
NakedFury |
people will touch it |
03:25 |
* marktraceur |
remembers that Criminal Minds episode |
03:25 |
marktraceur |
Freaky-ass shit |
03:25 |
* kaeza |
takes note not to mess with mauvebic |
03:25 |
mauvebic |
lol |
03:25 |
kaeza |
:P |
03:26 |
mauvebic |
well some of my family arent in south america by choice lol |
03:26 |
NakedFury |
those shows never feature a murderer from out of state, its always crimes of passions |
03:26 |
Uberi |
or put a bear trap as the door bell, maybe |
03:26 |
Uberi |
"push here to ring bell" |
03:27 |
mauvebic |
my father was one of those crooked business fucks from the 90s lol |
03:28 |
VanessaE |
can someone help me out with the moretrees mod, to tune the intervals and chance values I'm using in the spawning and growing ABMs for the trees? I'm not convinced that I did it right :-) |
03:32 |
mauvebic |
did you poke RBA? |
03:32 |
VanessaE |
already did, I guess he's at work now. |
03:32 |
VanessaE |
or asleep |
03:32 |
mauvebic |
did you try poking with a blunt object? |
03:32 |
VanessaE |
I forget his schedule |
03:32 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: are the tree abms using the same values as the current trees? |
03:32 |
mauvebic |
lol :p |
03:32 |
* mauvebic |
bludgeons |
03:33 |
mauvebic |
guess he's not there |
03:33 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: no, I toned them down quite sharply some time ago, this is what I was using last in the old mods. |
03:33 |
* Uberi |
gives mauvebic a pointy stick |
03:33 |
mauvebic |
im not crazy about full nodes as branches |
03:34 |
Uberi |
yeah, but smaller facedir nodeboxes that drop sticks are... actually not a bad idea! |
03:34 |
mauvebic |
use the autoplace code for pipes for branches |
03:34 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: patches welcome :-) |
03:35 |
* Uberi |
is trying to do work but reddit |
03:35 |
mauvebic |
i got star trek and beer distracting me |
03:35 |
NakedFury |
good distraction |
03:35 |
mauvebic |
and the other beers keep calling to me |
03:35 |
NakedFury |
TNG or Voyager? |
03:35 |
mauvebic |
theyre cold and frightened and its dark in the refrigirator |
03:36 |
mauvebic |
TNG |
03:36 |
Uberi |
the irresistable siren song |
03:36 |
leo_rockway |
TNG <3 |
03:36 |
mauvebic |
its funny how they keep using the same actors as extras for different aliens lol |
03:36 |
leo_rockway |
we draw the line HERE! |
03:37 |
mauvebic |
michael dorn has appeared as 3 different klingons lol |
03:37 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: how are junges generated? |
03:37 |
kaeza |
jungles* |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: very sloppily :D |
03:37 |
mauvebic |
odo played a starfleet colonel in star trek 6 |
03:37 |
kaeza |
lol |
03:37 |
mauvebic |
sisko's daddy was also in star trek 6 playing an admiral |
03:37 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: in TOS, Sarek was previously a Romulan commander... |
03:37 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: trees grow only near water, and only on grass, and only at low elevations, and only if the body of water is large enough |
03:38 |
VanessaE |
jungle trees that is. |
03:38 |
mauvebic |
lwaxana troy: the computer voice: the nurse in TOS |
03:38 |
VanessaE |
they grow, as NekoGloop predicted, in the same perlin biomes as jungle grass |
03:38 |
mauvebic |
she died recently (rip) |
03:38 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: low elevations? what kind of low elevations? |
03:38 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: -5 to +15. |
03:39 |
VanessaE |
I might need to tweak that though |
03:39 |
kaeza |
found one |
03:39 |
kaeza |
a jungle grasss sapling :D |
03:39 |
kaeza |
-s |
03:39 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: Martok was also the shapeshifter Laas in DS9... |
03:39 |
VanessaE |
er, jungle grass sapling? heh |
03:39 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: she died!? v.v |
03:39 |
VanessaE |
Majel Barrett? |
03:39 |
kaeza |
s/grass/tree/ |
03:39 |
kaeza |
lol |
03:39 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: please do, my sky base isn't the same without a lush forest :) |
03:40 |
mauvebic |
daughter of the fifth house, holder of the sacred chalice of Rixx and heir to the holy rings of betazed, may she rest in peace :p |
03:40 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: if you plant jungle tree saplings, they'll grow anywhere. They just won't spawn outside of that elevation range |
03:40 |
Uberi |
ah, thanks |
03:40 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: wife of Gene... |
03:41 |
mauvebic |
gene's death really destroyed the flow of new ideas to star trek tho |
03:41 |
leo_rockway |
yes |
03:42 |
leo_rockway |
DS9 had too much war and violence. It was a decent show, but it was only ST in name... |
03:42 |
leo_rockway |
Voyager was plain awful |
03:42 |
leo_rockway |
I haven't watched Enterprise |
03:42 |
leo_rockway |
sorry for the OT o.o |
03:42 |
NakedFury |
they need a new show |
03:43 |
leo_rockway |
I haven't watched the new movie either. |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: I wish.. |
03:43 |
leo_rockway |
there were discussions about a Worf ST |
03:43 |
VanessaE |
leo_rockway: it was good if you're willing to throw out star trek canon in favor of a new idea. |
03:43 |
kaeza |
100% cool & natural: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_579470235.jpg |
03:43 |
NakedFury |
also they need to not fix all problems with talking and killing the red jacket crew I think |
03:44 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: weird |
03:44 |
mauvebic |
any future star trek show should have much less to do with humans and starfleet in general |
03:44 |
Uberi |
kaeza: I think those overhangs are awesome :) |
03:44 |
mauvebic |
after 3 shows the hippie bullshit is a little much |
03:44 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: the ending felt so rushed... and they kept showing the guys from the future complaining about the temporal prime directive, yet they never show up in the last episode. |
03:44 |
Uberi |
adds character to the world |
03:45 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: Captain Worf should be fun... |
03:45 |
mauvebic |
the ds9 war was actually nice because it had some dark aspects to it |
03:45 |
leo_rockway |
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/ |
03:45 |
kaeza |
Uberi: I have a ton of screenshots like these. I love to go into the wild and take photos at interesting land formations. |
03:45 |
mauvebic |
ive read it |
03:46 |
mauvebic |
i doubt ittl happen |
03:46 |
mauvebic |
worf was ok but taken by himself abit stuffy and distant |
03:46 |
kaeza |
Uberi: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1058897008.png |
03:46 |
leo_rockway |
worf felt a bit out of place in DS9, to me. |
03:46 |
mauvebic |
7 seasons of people trying to get him to open up? thanks but no thanks lol |
03:46 |
Uberi |
heheh, silly sand |
03:47 |
Uberi |
the underground lakes and rivers are breathtaking |
03:47 |
mauvebic |
what they should do is set it 100 or 200 years further into the future |
03:47 |
NakedFury |
^ like that idea |
03:47 |
mauvebic |
they do time travel so much anyhow it might as well be "normal" |
03:47 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: Star Trek: Ferenginar |
03:47 |
leo_rockway |
o.o |
03:48 |
NakedFury |
Star Trek: The Republic |
03:48 |
mauvebic |
they never really showed the borg's end or beginning, so time travelling would be cool to settle that once and for all |
03:48 |
kaeza |
also, FOREVER ALONE! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1497286901.jpg |
03:48 |
mauvebic |
some people theorize the borg is actually V'ger from the first movie |
03:49 |
leo_rockway |
I haven't watched the TOS movies |
03:49 |
kaeza |
Uberi: and a last one for now: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1538663744.jpg |
03:49 |
mauvebic |
though the first movie isn't really a movie, it was the first few episodes of a cancelled series put together lol |
03:49 |
mauvebic |
which is why it goes on forever lol |
03:49 |
NakedFury |
the borg are like tame Daleks |
03:49 |
leo_rockway |
they turned it into a movie because of Star Wars |
03:49 |
mauvebic |
ugh doctor who |
03:49 |
Uberi |
kaeza: you should make a base out of that |
03:49 |
leo_rockway |
the borg are like replicators from SG1 |
03:49 |
NakedFury |
doctor who is the eternal hippie |
03:49 |
Uberi |
on my old world I hollowed out a natural mountain for that |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Because he knows what will be cool ;-) |
03:50 |
leo_rockway |
and I like what they do with the replicators in SG1 |
03:50 |
mauvebic |
ugh stargate |
03:50 |
mauvebic |
im canadian and i cant stand that show lol |
03:50 |
NakedFury |
why! |
03:51 |
NakedFury |
come on we have few space shows, we got to stick together here |
03:51 |
NakedFury |
safe the shows from cancellation |
03:51 |
mauvebic |
babylon 5 was even more atrocious |
03:51 |
NakedFury |
save |
03:51 |
kaeza |
Uberi: it's too small to be useful |
03:51 |
mauvebic |
the ridiculous hairdos |
03:51 |
mauvebic |
the bad cgi |
03:51 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
03:51 |
kaeza |
it's like 5x10 |
03:51 |
NakedFury |
I loved farscape |
03:52 |
kaeza |
hi OldCoder |
03:52 |
NekoGloop |
babylon 5 was awesome |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
03:52 |
mauvebic |
with that blue skank? no wonder they played that early in the 'evening lol |
03:52 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 hate |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
I have been in meetings |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
and am going out now |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
But... |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
WTF was Gambit doing here? |
03:52 |
Uberi |
hey OldCoder |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Are you here? |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Uberi, Hi! |
03:52 |
kaeza |
:o |
03:52 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: Hey. |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
03:52 |
OldCoder |
Let's PM |
03:52 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: we were discussing the spam issue in #minecraft |
03:52 |
Uberi |
sure |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
Uberi, I will PM with Gambit and see what is up |
03:53 |
NekoGloop |
Ah, here's the one Gambit can have intelligent conversation. |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
Gambit is AFK |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
Let me scroll up and look at this more closely |
03:53 |
OldCoder |
*scroll* |
03:54 |
Gambit |
semi-AFK |
03:54 |
mauvebic |
basically one of our guys spammed their channel again |
03:54 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit is always afk :P |
03:54 |
NakedFury |
someone went to troll and mess in minecrafts channel |
03:54 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: Basically the random spam in #minecraft continues, and one of us finally had the brilliant idea reaching out to you all :) |
03:54 |
Gambit |
(It was me! :o) |
03:54 |
Uberi |
o/ |
03:54 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Good. But do you remember what happened... |
03:55 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, the last time I made somebody from here apologize to your channel? You REDACTED banned me! |
03:55 |
OldCoder |
O_o |
03:55 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
03:55 |
OldCoder |
Let me review further... Peaceful relations are good |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
lol, nice censor. |
03:55 |
OldCoder |
Seriously, that was annoying |
03:55 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Hang on. I am reading up for a minute. |
03:55 |
mauvebic |
perhaps we could install a red phone in celeron55's and notch's residences? |
03:56 |
Uberi |
heheheh |
03:56 |
kaeza |
lolol |
03:56 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: Mortvert got a bit trigger happy. |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
Indeed D: |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
But we wish |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
Peace and Harmony |
03:56 |
Gambit |
He's like our grumpy old man. |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
Teach All the World to Sing |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
etc. |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
03:56 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Ya think? Ever since i happened in the channel ;) |
03:56 |
OldCoder |
To save you time, let me read up |
03:56 |
Uberi |
Gambit: can't go too far without your own grumpy old man |
03:56 |
mauvebic |
dont worry gambit, we've already threatened to chemically castrate whoever misbehaves |
03:57 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: except the deaf and the mute, those guys can just watch |
03:57 |
NakedFury |
this ridiculous "raids" from minetest fanatics have to end |
03:57 |
mauvebic |
minetest children |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
Is this basically about Kacey? |
03:57 |
|
leo_rockway joined #minetest |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
No actual war with 1000s of casualities |
03:57 |
Uberi |
nah, kacey's example was relatively tame |
03:57 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza was the one doing it :P |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
Bodies piling up? |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
kaeza? He's pretty mild mannered here |
03:57 |
kaeza |
...me? |
03:57 |
mauvebic |
no we disposed of those |
03:57 |
Uberi |
apparently landmine was there too, OldCoder |
03:57 |
Gambit |
That was the most recent one, but not that bad. |
03:57 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
03:58 |
mauvebic |
well landmine we can't do anything about |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
LM is a force of nature |
03:58 |
mauvebic |
unless one of you wants to drive him out into the country? |
03:58 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Well seeing as i cant even *join* #minecraft, what went down? |
03:58 |
Uberi |
I don't have a car, mauvebic |
03:58 |
mauvebic |
i let the chauffeur have the rolls :( |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
Sorry, Gambit... for that one you're on your own. But we'll talk to the others |
03:58 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, what's the deal though with banning all nicks that even have minetest in the name? |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
That seems a bit... |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Nuts :-) |
03:59 |
mauvebic |
its probably a ban on advertising |
03:59 |
Gambit |
That was a proposed solution. |
03:59 |
Uberi |
probably as a response to the spamming |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
I figured |
03:59 |
Gambit |
It hasn't been implemented as far as I know. |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
But it happened a week or two back |
03:59 |
Uberi |
a preemptive strike, so to speak |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
John of Minetest |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
said it was to target him |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Claimed he had not done anything |
03:59 |
mauvebic |
well oldcoder, people have been doing this on/off for a while now |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
But let's move on |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
mauvebic, all right |
03:59 |
mauvebic |
at least a year |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Down to brass tacks... |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Put aside LM |
03:59 |
OldCoder |
Is the other issue Kacey? |
04:00 |
Gambit |
If we did it, it'd be just like any other spam filter. |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Who I see called himself minetesttroll D: |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Is the other issue Kacey? |
04:00 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: I really doubt kacey will be a problem |
04:00 |
mauvebic |
no just tell her to behave |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Well, aside from LM, what is the primary issue today? |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Her? |
04:00 |
Gambit |
Like we'd ban *viagra*!@* |
04:00 |
mauvebic |
him? |
04:00 |
Gambit |
If that were a problem. |
04:00 |
mauvebic |
it? |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
I believe Kacey is a he |
04:00 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: well mainly to get rid of the weekly spammings of #minecraft |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, who or what was the issue today? |
04:00 |
OldCoder |
Aside from LM? |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
Weekly I'd not heard of |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
That will be looked at next |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
But was there an issue today? |
04:01 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe you should give him a chance to type... |
04:01 |
Gambit |
Kacey came in and the first thing out of their mouth was "Hey you know what's better than Minecraft?" |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
All right |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
So it was Kacey |
04:01 |
mauvebic |
destroy her |
04:01 |
OldCoder |
Say, Kacey, suppose you could chill a bit? |
04:01 |
mauvebic |
him |
04:01 |
Gambit |
I think they've been thoroughly told off at this point. :) |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Who has? |
04:02 |
Gambit |
Kacey. |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
Then you are satisfied for now? |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
LM aside? |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
If there are weekly raids |
04:02 |
mauvebic |
but... what about the Romulans? |
04:02 |
Gambit |
kaeza was also in there and said some things that implied this is organized :| |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
Uh huh |
04:02 |
Uberi |
I'd say we reached a good agreement, yes |
04:02 |
kaeza |
Gambit: that's not true |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, I know kaeza and don't consider him part of that |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
There is no agreement yet |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
But there is an expression of good will |
04:02 |
OldCoder |
Peace on Earth etc. |
04:03 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: While i dont generally follow this, a few of them do seem to be "tagteaming" your channel, so to speak. |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
But there WILL be a MT Wikipedia article D: |
04:03 |
Gambit |
01-09 21:09:22| <undercoveragent> some of us (myself *NOT* included) are trolling #minecraft because you ban us for the mere action of mentioning Minetest. Why can't we get along? We *don't* ban those who mention MC! We joke a bit, yes, but are more or less like "meh. If you like it, play it.". |
04:03 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: definitely! |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, that seems fair |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, see that's the deal... |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Listen please... |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, In your channel, two of us just MENTIONED a kid |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
who was admittedly a handful |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
He was the one who came there |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
and said |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
"Gay Bitches!" |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
"Gay Bitches!" |
04:03 |
OldCoder |
"Gay Bitches!" |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Not much of a way to make friends O_o |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
We mentioned we knew him |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
And your guy did a mass ban |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
More than one of you |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Is Trigger Finger Itchy |
04:04 |
NekoGloop |
Gah, i hate it when my screen randomly increases brightness. |
04:04 |
Gambit |
Well you have to consider it from our side. |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Uh huh |
04:04 |
Gambit |
That's *all* we see of the Minetest community. |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Go on |
04:04 |
Gambit |
Is those people. |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
Yeah... Look at the part you just quoted |
04:04 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: I finally figured out it was because of ambient light auto adjust |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
If that was kaeza |
04:04 |
OldCoder |
You are conflating kaeza with the attackers |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Because he commented |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
And was possibly trying to build understanding |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Not a good start |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
If there are random attacks |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Get us more information |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
And discussions will be held here |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
But again for LM you are on your own |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
|
04:05 |
NekoGloop |
Can we all just agree to talk about minecraft in #minecraft and minetest in #minetest (or other minetest channels) |
04:05 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, do these remarks settle the matter for today? |
04:05 |
Gambit |
The use of plural pronouns there was troubling. |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, where? |
04:06 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: yeah everything is fine for now |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
All right |
04:06 |
Uberi |
it's the royal "we", Gambit :P |
04:06 |
Gambit |
Heh |
04:06 |
mauvebic |
dont i feel like a queen |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Kacey seems to have left |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
or renicked |
04:06 |
Uberi |
it's a habit I find myself slipping into as well |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, feel free to chill |
04:06 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit == #minecraft's OldCoder ;-) |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Don't expect me to bring people to apologize again though |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Unless you promise I won't be banned for doing so |
04:06 |
OldCoder |
Seriously |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, I'd offer you virtual cake now |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
But others here are better than that |
04:07 |
* OldCoder |
offers Gambit virtual cake anywayh |
04:07 |
Gambit |
there were a bunch of minetest ops hanging out in there shortly after I came over here; we had a big talk |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
It's better than all these kittens |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
Did the talk help? |
04:07 |
NekoGloop |
Heh :3 |
04:07 |
Gambit |
yeah I dunno why we didn't think of coming to you guys sooner |
04:07 |
Gambit |
Probably again the perception problem. |
04:07 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Mark T is a good person |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Not everybody here is 14 years old you know |
04:08 |
Gambit |
When 100% of the minetest users we see are spammers, that's the picture that begins to form. |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Uh huh |
04:08 |
NekoGloop |
Now... Can i be unbanned in #minecraft :-( |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Well, now you know |
04:08 |
mauvebic |
ive been around since 1485 |
04:08 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: I asked about your ban because I didn't remember it. |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
And Knowing is half the battle :P |
04:08 |
Gambit |
Apparently it was for "OS warring" |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
04:08 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
On the bright side, Gambit... |
04:08 |
NekoGloop |
Yep, that would be me. Just ask around ;-) |
04:08 |
Uberi |
OS warring is still something unresolved here |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
One of you said most bans are pretty temporary |
04:08 |
OldCoder |
Is that true? |
04:09 |
Gambit |
Probably one of the typical "Drop this topic now because I said so." times. |
04:09 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: We frequently have to clear our ban list |
04:09 |
Gambit |
It fills up with spammers from various things. |
04:09 |
NekoGloop |
Is frequently every 6 months or so |
04:09 |
Gambit |
Minetest, terraria, people that just hate minecraft |
04:09 |
Gambit |
Apparently there's a max size to the ban list. |
04:09 |
NekoGloop |
Wait you guys seriously get terraria douches? |
04:09 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I was told it was much more frequent |
04:09 |
Gambit |
And we hit it constantly. |
04:09 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: The terraria spammers are much more sophistocated. |
04:10 |
Gambit |
They have bot networks. |
04:10 |
Gambit |
*sophisticated |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Uh... Why? |
04:10 |
NekoGloop |
Heh. |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Why go after MC to that extent? |
04:10 |
mauvebic |
some of our people are developing bots too, with nuclear-tipped bot-heads |
04:10 |
Gambit |
Like they'll come in 2 dozen at a time and spam rapid fire until they get klined. |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
04:10 |
Uberi |
terraria and MC complement each other nicely |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
If so |
04:10 |
OldCoder |
Why the apparent battle to the death? |
04:10 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
04:11 |
Uberi |
OldCoder: why are there holy wars over text editors? |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, maybe you should hang out *here* more |
04:11 |
NakedFury |
terrari fans envy us for continued development and the third dimension |
04:11 |
NakedFury |
terraria |
04:11 |
Gambit |
Well my theory might offend a lot of people, but: |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Uberi, why... because text editors are holy of course |
04:11 |
Uberi |
NakedFury: totally, our gameplay adds a whole new dimension to it! :P |
04:11 |
Gambit |
The Minecraft community is already shitty. |
04:11 |
mauvebic |
howcome? |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, Odd thing to say |
04:11 |
Gambit |
Now you throw in people that want Minecraft, but can't afford it. |
04:11 |
Gambit |
And FSF zealots. |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
Hm? |
04:11 |
Uberi |
Gambit: I would disagree with you there |
04:11 |
mauvebic |
i can afford it, i just like beer better |
04:11 |
OldCoder |
mauvebic, I really like you :-) |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
You've made me laugh pretty often |
04:12 |
Gambit |
The Minecraft forums are a shithole. |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, you are an op there |
04:12 |
Gambit |
Something to do with this genre. |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
Shouldn't you be saying, like... |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
"Our forums are grand and marvelous" ? |
04:12 |
Uberi |
Gambit: like every community, it's got its good places, and the Detroit places |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
That's blunt |
04:12 |
NekoGloop |
But true. |
04:12 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
04:12 |
Gambit |
OldCoder: #minecraft is a very small, well moderated chunk of the minecraft community |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Possibly too moderated |
04:13 |
Gambit |
The official channel is on espernet |
04:13 |
Gambit |
And it's a shithole. |
04:13 |
NakedFury |
IT IS |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
04:13 |
Uberi |
Gambit: there's an official MC channel!? |
04:13 |
NekoGloop |
that channel should be called #off-topic xD |
04:13 |
NakedFury |
god its always offtopic disccusions and crap |
04:13 |
* leo_rockway |
doesn't now terraria... |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
leo_rockway, IIRC it is a Flatland Minecraft |
04:13 |
Uberi |
leo_rockway: it is well worth the price |
04:13 |
NekoGloop |
I mean, seriously, AN MC DEV HANGS OUT IN THE UNOFFICIAL ONE. |
04:13 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, why don't you hang out here more often? |
04:14 |
Uberi |
if you want to get a feel for the genre first, KAG is free to play, leo_rockway |
04:14 |
Gambit |
I don't play Minetest. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, No... |
04:14 |
Gambit |
I will some day probably when it's more mature. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
as an ambassador |
04:14 |
Gambit |
As software I mean. |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, My worlds are pretty good :-) |
04:14 |
leo_rockway |
Uberi: I'm not a gamer. I'm also an FSF zealot. |
04:14 |
Uberi |
we'll pay you in kittens |
04:14 |
leo_rockway |
but thanks |
04:14 |
OldCoder |
Guess how many worlds I run now |
04:14 |
mauvebic |
wasn't notch planning on opensourcing MC at some point? |
04:14 |
Gambit |
It's just not that appealing right now. |
04:14 |
VanessaE |
Gambit: actually, it's gotten pretty good already. |
04:14 |
Uberi |
leo_rockway: fair enough :) |
04:14 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: jeb overturned it later |
04:15 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Just, you need a good selection of mods, that's all ;) |
04:15 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: "no plans to do so", etc., etc. |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, we offer you the role of ambassador |
04:15 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: IIRC, he said he would when it was no longer popular... |
04:15 |
Uberi |
yes, I might be a bit biased but Mesecons is superior to redstone in quite a few ways |
04:15 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, I have an errand to run. Let's leave it at this... |
04:15 |
Gambit |
VanessaE: I check up on it once in a while. Maybe I will again this weekend. :) |
04:15 |
Uberi |
the Mesecons microcontrollers have no redstone equivalent, unfortunately |
04:16 |
Gambit |
Like, as you can tell by my cloak, I love FOSS. :) |
04:16 |
mauvebic |
you too, have a cloaking device? |
04:16 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Oh and you would love mesecons. |
04:16 |
mauvebic |
you and i, we could rule cardassia |
04:16 |
Uberi |
Gambit: (mesecons is the equivalent of redstone for MT, fyi) |
04:16 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Also you should try to see if you can contribute anything. Even textures. As you can see, the defaults are shit ;-) |
04:16 |
leo_rockway |
mauvebic: treaty of algeron! |
04:17 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, 1. You're offered an embassy here. 2. If Kacey trolls again we'll look into discipline. 3. Weekly raids will be discussed if they continue. 4. Try my 19 MT worlds :-) 5. We do plan to have a MT Wikipedia article. |
04:17 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, that is my summary. We good here? |
04:17 |
NekoGloop |
... 19... o.O |
04:17 |
OldCoder |
I need one more |
04:17 |
Gambit |
Yeah, like I said, we talked things through a while ago. |
04:17 |
mauvebic |
the ambassadorial post also includes the use of comfort women |
04:17 |
Gambit |
I'm just chilling out in here. |
04:17 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, fine |
04:18 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: I was about to discuss your #20 world |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
Dine on wine toe the line MT is fine |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, go on |
04:18 |
* VanessaE |
steps back a bit, not to be confused with one of said "comfort" women. |
04:18 |
NekoGloop |
In other words he's too lazy to /part. Which is fine with me ;) |
04:18 |
Gambit |
I miss cia.vc :( |
04:18 |
Uberi |
Gambit: you may receive your kittens from NekoGloop |
04:18 |
Uberi |
there is a daily quota of 2 |
04:18 |
* OldCoder |
gives his pile of kittens to Gambit as a gesture of good will |
04:18 |
VanessaE |
Gambit: on receipt of said kittens, you may at your leisure place them in OldCoder's pile. |
04:18 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: may I PM? |
04:18 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, too late! :P |
04:18 |
mauvebic |
well if no one else volunteers i suppose i could be gambit's comfort woman? |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
They are Gambit's responsibility now |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, sure |
04:19 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: The kittens are an inside joke of sorts. |
04:19 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: we'll start a NEW pile then :-) |
04:19 |
leo_rockway |
* [new branch] jungleanddungeons -> origin/jungleanddungeons |
04:19 |
leo_rockway |
o.o |
04:19 |
VanessaE |
(or would that be a mew pile?) |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, It will take a |
04:19 |
Uberi |
:O |
04:19 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
A Mew Pile |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
AMewsing VanessaE |
04:19 |
VanessaE |
haha |
04:19 |
OldCoder |
You are Abusing but AMewsing |
04:19 |
VanessaE |
I am not! :) |
04:20 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: I'll ask about undoing your ban this weekend |
04:20 |
NekoGloop |
Currently the espernet minecraft channel is talking about computer science degrees. |
04:20 |
Gambit |
Good night. |
04:20 |
NekoGloop |
At least they are slightly ontopic. |
04:20 |
OldCoder |
Gambit, we shall miss you |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
You are not nearly |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
Like the typical D: op over there |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
No offense |
04:21 |
Gambit |
There's a chillax old guard. |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
What does chillax mean? |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
They ice the blades |
04:21 |
Gambit |
And there's overzealous newbies. |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
Before burying them in people? |
04:21 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
04:22 |
OldCoder |
Well you have your invite for an embassy here |
04:22 |
OldCoder |
I g2g being paged |
04:22 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
04:22 |
Gambit |
But like I said, the grumpyness didn't happen spontaneously. |
04:22 |
NekoGloop |
Also say hello to moltenbot, the link-grepping bot and Minetest-tan, the everything else bot, Gambit. :3 |
04:23 |
NekoGloop |
Hello Minetest-tan! |
04:23 |
NekoGloop |
... Hm, he must have disabled that. |
04:23 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: It's name is not as sexy as janebot. pfft |
04:23 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Indeed. |
04:23 |
Gambit |
(Say, ya'll need tweet reports? ;) ) |
04:24 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe if celeron *used* his twitter account xD |
04:25 |
Gambit |
Interestingly I caught a lot of shit over kicking Kacey at first. |
04:25 |
Gambit |
But they came back and proved me right. :\ |
04:25 |
kaeza |
!tw celeron55 |
04:25 |
Minetest-tan |
Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/celeron55?1357791932.68 (@celeron55) |
04:25 |
kaeza |
? |
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04:25 |
kaeza |
!tw lkaezadl3 |
04:25 |
Minetest-tan |
@BoldCoder have found an old photo I took about two years ago. It needs a few retouches, but I hope you'll like it. pic.twitter.com/5ecWBDay (@lkaezadl3) |
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04:25 |
kaeza |
^_^ |
04:26 |
NekoGloop |
Huh, i thought he had one |
04:26 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe it's under a different name, idk. |
04:26 |
Uberi |
maybe c55? |
04:26 |
kaeza |
!tw c55 |
04:27 |
Minetest-tan |
trying to figure out the purpose (@c55) |
04:27 |
kaeza |
O_o |
04:27 |
NekoGloop |
Is that even an allowed name... |
04:27 |
NekoGloop |
why not actually try his *name* |
04:27 |
kaeza |
!tw perttuahola |
04:27 |
Minetest-tan |
Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/perttuahola?1357792052.4 (@perttuahola) |
04:27 |
NekoGloop |
... God you're hopeless. |
04:28 |
NekoGloop |
!g Perttu Aloha Twitter |
04:28 |
Minetest-tan |
NekoGloop: http://www.wunderkraut.com/blog/drupal-vs-episerver-vs-sharepoint/2011-10-21 |
04:28 |
kaeza |
O_o |
04:28 |
NekoGloop |
Well that is most definitely not what i'm looking for. |
04:28 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you were satying? :-) |
04:28 |
VanessaE |
saying* |
04:28 |
NekoGloop |
I coulda sworn he had a twitter account. |
04:28 |
sokomine |
fine that there are new jungletrees! |
04:28 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: you were saying* ? |
04:28 |
kaeza |
lol |
04:29 |
VanessaE |
eh shaddup :-) |
04:29 |
NekoGloop |
I would show off moltenbot as well except ipv6 users are ignored by it, Gambit. |
04:29 |
kaeza |
http://example.com |
04:29 |
kaeza |
? |
04:29 |
Gambit |
Janebot had that bug for a little while. The hostmask regex was missing a colon. |
04:30 |
NekoGloop |
Heh. |
04:30 |
NekoGloop |
Iqual would fix it except that he knows that i only know because of my ipad ;-) |
04:30 |
NekoGloop |
People here hate apple *almost* as much as microsoft. |
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04:31 |
NekoGloop |
And, ahem, that would be why i hate this ipad. |
04:31 |
Gambit |
Get yourself an unaffiliated cloak. |
04:31 |
NekoGloop |
On an ipad? |
04:31 |
NekoGloop |
;-) |
04:31 |
Gambit |
You just have to be logged into your nickserv account. |
04:31 |
Gambit |
Has nothing to do with your client. |
04:32 |
NekoGloop |
Heh, i'd have to have one. |
04:32 |
Uberi |
whoa it's late |
04:33 |
kaeza |
/msg nickserv ghost NekoGloop |
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04:33 |
kaeza |
^_^ |
04:33 |
NekoGloop |
Hah. |
04:34 |
kaeza |
something like an unpriviledged /kick |
04:34 |
Gambit |
Now some troll will steal your nick |
04:35 |
NekoGloop_ |
^_^ |
04:35 |
kaeza |
O_o |
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04:36 |
kaeza |
IPv4 lol |
04:36 |
Gambit |
:\ |
04:36 |
NekoGloop |
Well that failed |
04:36 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Your logic is broken |
04:36 |
Gambit |
Not really kaeza |
04:36 |
NekoGloop |
The weird thing is i have to /whois myself |
04:36 |
kaeza |
hm? |
04:38 |
Gambit |
My mistake. |
04:38 |
Gambit |
been looking at too many hostnames tonight :< |
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04:38 |
kaeza |
np |
04:39 |
kaeza |
O_o ^^ |
04:39 |
NekoGloop |
so care to explain how you actually get the unaffiliated cloak? |
04:39 |
Gambit |
Wow nikondork. |
04:39 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: register a nickserv account |
04:39 |
Gambit |
and then ask in #freenode |
04:39 |
NekoGloop |
i did. |
04:39 |
NekoGloop |
Ah. |
04:39 |
NekoGloop |
That step woulda been useful ;-) |
04:42 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Gambit's head again for the heck of it |
04:42 |
NekoGloop |
Also, what did nikon do? |
04:42 |
Gambit |
They're starting to fall off. |
04:42 |
NekoGloop |
Gambit: Nah, they're good at holding on :-3 |
04:42 |
Gambit |
NekoGloop: His part message was less than polite, but apparently it wasn't manual. |
04:43 |
NekoGloop |
I see |
04:43 |
NekoGloop |
I have join and part messages turned off |
04:43 |
NekoGloop |
Another network i am on is linked directly to a game, and gets >50 joins per second. |
04:48 |
NekoGloop |
And, now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg |
04:48 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: World's End Dancehall (English Cover)??ham + JubyPhonic P? - YouTube |
04:48 |
NekoGloop |
Well at least the ipv4 makes that part work. |
04:50 |
NakedFury |
http://kotaku.com/5974684/you-havent-seen-rapture-until-youve-seen-in-recreated-with-blocks?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow |
04:50 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: You Haven't Seen Rapture Until You've Seen In Recreated With Blocks |
04:50 |
NekoGloop |
>kotaku |
04:50 |
NekoGloop |
That rings a bell. |
04:50 |
NakedFury |
from bioshock |
04:50 |
NekoGloop |
Oh wait |
04:50 |
NekoGloop |
Take a k off, i know that word. |
04:52 |
mauvebic |
this would be a cool world: http://adventurersbg.info/walkthroughs/myst2/index_files/image076.jpg |
04:52 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: an update for my world/game/etc is available at your leisure. |
04:52 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: myst... mystcraft *cough* what? :-) |
04:53 |
mauvebic |
a pink sky requires cpp changes (very basic ones) |
04:53 |
mauvebic |
the rock formations either with my terrain guns or some on generated routine |
04:56 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten in Gambit's lap |
04:57 |
NakedFury |
mauvebic the idea of worlds inside books would be awesome |
04:58 |
NakedFury |
a server could have 1 cenntral hub world and from there you join others through books or whatever way you want |
04:58 |
NekoGloop |
The idea of secondary worlds would be awesome. |
04:59 |
NekoGloop |
Seeing as minetest singleplayer == minecraft >1.3.2 singleplayer... |
04:59 |
NekoGloop |
... I forgot where i was going with that. |
04:59 |
mauvebic |
worlds inside books? need portals for that |
05:00 |
VanessaE |
time for bed. night all |
05:01 |
NakedFury |
enter server and you enter Lobby World. Say it is in the shape of a big museum. you can explore it and open or read some of the books that teleport you or log you into that worlds server |
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05:14 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: \o/ |
05:14 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: In theory this can be done currently, with mesecons and command blocks. |
05:15 |
kaeza |
NakedFury: RBA was working on portals between worlds |
05:15 |
NekoGloop |
Simply design each area seperately. |
05:15 |
kaeza |
but got busy with the new trees |
05:16 |
Exio |
[01:53:06] <mauvebic> a pink sky requires cpp changes (very basic ones) < what file? :P |
05:16 |
mauvebic |
wild stab in the dark... sky.cpp? |
05:16 |
Exio |
aw |
05:16 |
Exio |
i didn't check |
05:16 |
* Exio |
kills Exio |
05:17 |
* mauvebic |
disposes of the witnesses |
05:17 |
* kaeza |
revives Exio and kills him again ad-infinitum |
05:17 |
NakedFury |
can we do something like this: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiverse-core/ |
05:17 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: |
05:18 |
NakedFury |
multiple worlds on 1 server |
05:18 |
Exio |
kaeza: D: |
05:19 |
Exio |
NakedFury++, the idea of multiworlds is awesome |
05:20 |
NakedFury |
mutliple worlds on same server coupled with different settings for land generation for each worlds would make mauvebics mystcraft idea possible |
05:26 |
Oblivion1500 |
that would be epic |
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05:32 |
NekoGloop |
It feels like it should be later... |
05:33 |
Oblivion1500 |
why? |
05:33 |
NekoGloop |
Just like, it seems like more time has passed than this. |
05:33 |
NekoGloop |
Dont you agree? |
05:35 |
Oblivion1500 |
i think it would be something simple.. |
05:36 |
Oblivion1500 |
in the process we can make is so we can save the path of other worlds on our client |
05:36 |
Oblivion1500 |
so we can simple change |
05:36 |
Oblivion1500 |
dont you agree? |
05:37 |
NakedFury |
some servers have multiple worlds for Creative, PVP, and lets say PVE modes |
05:37 |
NakedFury |
switching from one to the other is easy. items cant pass from 1 world to the other |
05:37 |
Oblivion1500 |
then they can telly into another world and it changes all of that |
05:38 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
05:38 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty |
05:38 |
Oblivion1500 |
i didnt catch a fucking thing |
05:38 |
NakedFury |
a server I played in had like 10 worlds and was using a land generation plugin to make them all different |
05:39 |
NekoGloop |
survival games is an example. |
05:39 |
Oblivion1500 |
then just do a log in log out function |
05:39 |
Oblivion1500 |
all in one step through the portal |
05:40 |
Oblivion1500 |
it might take a wile but its pretty cool |
05:42 |
NakedFury |
you could do 1 server and have multiple worlds with different modes: Creative, PvP, normal survival, some game mode, exploration(no block destroying) |
06:00 |
kaeza |
night everyone! off to bed :) |
06:00 |
Exio |
night kaeza! |
06:01 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Exio's head |
06:02 |
Exio |
poor kitten |
06:18 |
* NekoGloop |
puts the box of kittens down |
06:26 |
thexyz |
>If you could put some pressure on them to behave, we'd really appreciate it. |
06:26 |
thexyz |
BEHAVE YOU SHITBAGS |
06:26 |
thexyz |
was that good enough? |
06:32 |
NekoGloop |
no. |
06:34 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, well at least it is unambiguous |
06:34 |
OldCoder |
lighter approach might be sensible |
06:56 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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thexyz |
By the way, Gambit, can you post some logs to prove your statement? |
07:00 |
NekoGloop |
He's asleep by now. |
07:02 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62991#p62991 => mac rant ahoy |
07:02 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: [Poll | Finished] Open/Close Doors (Page 2) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
07:05 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63005#p63005 |
07:05 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: [Poll | Finished] Open/Close Doors (Page 2) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
07:08 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop: removed the quote, no need to quote the whole post, that just makes everything longer ;) |
07:08 |
NekoGloop |
That was the point :D |
07:08 |
Calinou |
as long as people know who you are replying to it's fine |
07:13 |
NekoGloop |
I *wanted* to make everything longer though ;-) |
07:19 |
Oblivion1500 |
Ohh damn sorry |
07:31 |
NekoGloop |
EsperNet #minecraft is so fucking random |
07:31 |
Calinou |
of course it is |
07:31 |
NekoGloop |
I mean, more so than the one here |
07:31 |
NekoGloop |
Which is more so than #minetest |
07:32 |
NekoGloop |
And we all know how random we are. |
07:35 |
NekoGloop |
Currently everyone has "lil" tagged on the front of their name... |
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Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62998#p62998 => gitorious... lol :D |
08:21 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: Pixelous (formerly Menche's 4x4) (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums |
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RealBadAngel |
hi |
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hi |
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forums down again? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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RealBadAngel |
hi PilzAdam |
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Calinou |
teh forums are down |
16:28 |
* Calinou |
bets zlatan didn't like the football topic |
16:28 |
Calinou |
noone talked about him |
16:29 |
Calinou |
so he zlatanned the server box |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
16:34 |
rubenwardy |
forum down? |
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PilzAdam |
yep |
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Menche |
yeah |
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Menche |
repeatedly refreshing the forum page, hoping for it to come back |
16:35 |
Menche |
suppose im addicted |
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PilzAdam |
we all are ;-) |
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rubenwardy |
tell me when it does |
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celeron55 |
here's something to vote for the internets: http://kampanja.mcdonalds.fi/myburger/#burgers/604 |
16:44 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: McDonalds MyBurger |
16:44 |
celeron55 |
ylilauta is the largest finnish imageboard 8), "äänestä" = "vote" |
16:45 |
rubenwardy |
per.. / lah ? |
16:45 |
rubenwardy |
on vote dialog |
16:45 |
Calinou |
s/ylilauta/4chan |
16:45 |
celeron55 |
the red one |
16:46 |
celeron55 |
"lähetä" = "submit" |
16:46 |
Calinou |
celeron55: why should we do that :P |
16:46 |
celeron55 |
Calinou: ehm? 4chan is english |
16:47 |
celeron55 |
because unnecessarily influencing public votings with half-jokes is part of what the internet is for |
16:47 |
Menche |
darn, doesn't display right in google translate |
16:47 |
Menche |
and google translate was set to translate into latin for some reason |
16:56 |
rubenwardy |
is it possible to make an item look like water, but with out the flow bit? |
16:56 |
sokomine |
rubenwardy: that would be helpful sometimes. i havn't found a way yet :-( |
16:56 |
rubenwardy |
damn |
16:57 |
rubenwardy |
I will have to use opaque water |
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* Jordach |
hates haircuts |
16:59 |
Zetetic |
Me too, that's why I have long hair |
17:00 |
Jordach |
minetest.net DEAD AGAIN |
17:06 |
rubenwardy |
is there a problem with this: |
17:06 |
rubenwardy |
for a=1, 11, step do |
17:06 |
rubenwardy |
(lua) |
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rubenwardy |
17:07:35: ERROR[main]: ...rew/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/waterplus/init.lua:1: 'for' step must be a number |
17:08 |
PilzAdam |
have you defined step before? |
17:08 |
PilzAdam |
local step = 1 |
17:08 |
rubenwardy |
no |
17:08 |
rubenwardy |
does not say you need to: http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/lua/lualoop.htm#_Numeric_For_Statements |
17:08 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Lua Looping |
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rubenwardy |
what is the correct code? |
17:08 |
PilzAdam |
for a=1,11 do |
17:09 |
PilzAdam |
for a=1,11,5 do |
17:09 |
rubenwardy |
words |
17:09 |
rubenwardy |
* works |
17:09 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
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17:12 |
rubenwardy |
anything wrong here? http://pastebin.com/WECSQmZx |
17:12 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: [Lua] nodebox = { type="fixed", nodebox={ {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,(0.5/10)*a,0.5}, - Pastebin.com |
17:13 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
17:13 |
PilzAdam |
"fixed =" not "nodebox =" |
17:13 |
PilzAdam |
and its node_box not nodebox |
17:13 |
markveidemanis |
Minetest forums down? |
17:13 |
PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, yep |
17:13 |
markveidemanis |
Again?! |
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17:18 |
rubenwardy |
is {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.1,0.5}, a correct box? |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
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NekoGloop |
miau |
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17:21 |
rubenwardy |
the above box was surposed to look similar to a slab |
17:21 |
NekoGloop |
forums being derp? |
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17:22 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, yup |
17:22 |
Jordach |
as usual |
17:23 |
NekoGloop |
le gasp, Menche *did* something |
17:23 |
rubenwardy |
just realised that I forgot drawtype="nodebox", |
17:23 |
Jordach |
huh? |
17:24 |
markveidemanis |
== /CLEAR Unknown command |
17:25 |
rubenwardy |
playing with nodeboxes |
17:25 |
markveidemanis |
also, who can help me build a good Prison fr my server? |
17:25 |
markveidemanis |
Minecraft Dungeon like |
17:25 |
NekoGloop |
dude, it's "/clear" |
17:25 |
markveidemanis |
Try it in caps |
17:26 |
sokomine |
hm. make the griefers build a prison cell. if they did build a good one they get free again :-) |
17:26 |
markveidemanis |
im just proving to myself im a terrible architect... |
17:26 |
markveidemanis |
Nah.. |
17:26 |
Zeg9 |
markveidemanis: /part ]]execute/clear |
17:26 |
markveidemanis |
Im gonna build out of unkreakable blocks |
17:26 |
Zeg9 |
(old joke not working anymore) |
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markveidemanis |
and im not giving them to griefers: |
17:27 |
markveidemanis |
- |
17:27 |
markveidemanis |
) |
17:27 |
sokomine |
:-) |
17:27 |
markveidemanis |
Yep |
17:27 |
markveidemanis |
Help... |
17:27 |
markveidemanis |
Someone |
17:27 |
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17:28 |
markveidemanis |
Hi |
17:28 |
markveidemanis |
Help me build a prison |
17:28 |
NekoGloop |
no |
17:29 |
Zeg9 |
I guess he didn't wanna help you |
17:29 |
markveidemanis |
Who |
17:29 |
markveidemanis |
Can you? |
17:29 |
rubenwardy |
what is "group:groupname" |
17:30 |
rubenwardy |
is it a selected in groups{...} |
17:35 |
rubenwardy |
is "node" in the function a string/text? http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_abm |
17:37 |
PilzAdam |
node |
17:37 |
PilzAdam |
*no |
17:37 |
rubenwardy |
how to get the name? |
17:37 |
rubenwardy |
node.name? |
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17:37 |
PilzAdam |
http://dev.minetest.net/node |
17:37 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: node - Minetest Developer Wiki |
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rubenwardy |
brb |
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17:43 |
markveidemanis |
Help Me Build A Prison! |
17:43 |
markveidemanis |
SOMEONE! |
17:45 |
sema4 |
markveidemanis: google for prison pictures and info, generate ideas, place blocks in appropriate arrangements. |
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17:57 |
Obiewan1111 |
Is the Minetest site down? |
17:58 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
17:58 |
Obiewan1111 |
Is there a reason? |
18:01 |
Jordach |
celeron55, fix yer damn vps |
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18:08 |
* rubenwardy |
is working on a finite water mod |
18:10 |
mauvebic |
how would that work? |
18:10 |
mauvebic |
esp with flowing and source nodes |
18:10 |
rubenwardy |
lots of water nodeboxes |
18:13 |
NakedFury |
this water would be nice: http://www.moddb.com/games/liquid-cubed |
18:13 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: Liquid Cubed Windows game - Mod DB |
18:13 |
mauvebic |
how many nodeboxes? with pipeworks i already have in the neighbourhood of 500 defined nodes in all |
18:14 |
kaeza |
minetest.net still down? |
18:14 |
rubenwardy |
20 atm, but it can be increased |
18:14 |
mauvebic |
i dont even know if the two will be compatible yet tho |
18:14 |
rubenwardy |
local finite_water_steps=20 |
18:14 |
rubenwardy |
they probably will not |
18:14 |
Oblivion1500 |
kaeza:yes |
18:15 |
kaeza |
dang |
18:15 |
mauvebic |
yeah pipeworks looks for liquid and flowingliquid drawtypes |
18:15 |
rubenwardy |
mine is nodebox drawtype |
18:15 |
Oblivion1500 |
anyone have a reason or is it just acting up? |
18:15 |
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rubenwardy |
what is != in lua? |
18:17 |
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18:17 |
rubenwardy |
~= |
18:18 |
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18:19 |
mauvebic |
wet cement: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3716704095 |
18:19 |
mauvebic |
dry: http://www.zimg.eu/i/169617068 |
18:20 |
rubenwardy |
wow |
18:21 |
NakedFury |
thats nice |
18:21 |
NakedFury |
is it slow spreading? |
18:21 |
mauvebic |
im having trouble figuring out the right viscosity level but it takes a few intervals to dry completely |
18:22 |
mauvebic |
and its only the flowing's that dry bcuz if the source dried you'd have a mess lol |
18:24 |
Jordach |
thexyz, you really need to host minetest.net |
18:24 |
mauvebic |
though if i did an air check on the spigot i could let the source dry too |
18:26 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIZdxZqjcu0 |
18:26 |
moltenbot |
harrison's link: Ultraworld This - YouTube |
18:26 |
harrison |
best film yet |
18:26 |
harrison |
very relevant to anyone interested in voxel toy worlds |
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18:32 |
kaeza |
what is this...I don't even... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_632769148.jpg |
18:32 |
mauvebic |
osama's old hideout? |
18:33 |
mauvebic |
lol |
18:34 |
kaeza |
lol |
18:34 |
kaeza |
removed a node: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_632941143.jpg |
18:34 |
mauvebic |
desert rock falls? |
18:35 |
kaeza |
nope |
18:35 |
mauvebic |
thank god the mese change is enough controversy for one month lol |
18:35 |
kaeza |
it's still there: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_633034676.jpg |
18:36 |
mauvebic |
your running -d1 and your chunks are loading? |
18:36 |
Zetetic |
Whawt changed about mese? |
18:36 |
mauvebic |
*youre |
18:36 |
Zetetic |
I'm new so I don't know what it was like before |
18:36 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
18:36 |
mauvebic |
it was just a block before, and theres still debate and polls about it today lol |
18:36 |
kaeza |
yup |
18:36 |
kaeza |
hi VanessaE |
18:36 |
mauvebic |
weird my maps didn't load with -d1 so i had to downgrade |
18:37 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: something's going kinda kooky with the map loader over the past month |
18:37 |
PilzAdam |
mauvebic, that cant be |
18:37 |
mauvebic |
but it was |
18:37 |
mauvebic |
why would anyone make that up anyhow? |
18:38 |
PilzAdam |
its not due to the networing changes in -d1 |
18:38 |
mauvebic |
im not in the habit of filing false bug reports :p |
18:38 |
mauvebic |
i dont know *why* the chunks weren't loading, all i know is i had time to 420 before seeing a few nodes lol |
18:39 |
mauvebic |
sucks because there are alot of other fixes/features in the latest i'd love to dev w/ |
18:40 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles at the forums being down yet again |
18:40 |
kaeza |
heh |
18:40 |
mauvebic |
yeah its getting to be like it was a year ago |
18:40 |
rubenwardy |
when I do this target = pos |
18:40 |
rubenwardy |
are changes made to pos when i change target? |
18:40 |
kaeza |
yes |
18:40 |
PilzAdam |
yep |
18:40 |
rubenwardy |
damn |
18:40 |
VanessaE |
has anyone used my moretrees mod yet? |
18:40 |
mauvebic |
yeah works by reference |
18:40 |
rubenwardy |
how to stop that? |
18:40 |
PilzAdam |
use target = {x=pos.x...} |
18:40 |
mauvebic |
^ |
18:40 |
rubenwardy |
huff |
18:41 |
rubenwardy |
target = {x=pos.x,y=pos.y,z=pos.z} |
18:41 |
mauvebic |
eggxactly |
18:41 |
mauvebic |
new array, new reference |
18:41 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: have been testing it for half an hour now |
18:42 |
kaeza |
(without sutting down) |
18:42 |
PilzAdam |
function copy_v3(vec) return {x=vec.x,y=vec.y,z=vec.z} end |
18:42 |
* VanessaE |
wonders if her server has turned into a forest yet... |
18:42 |
PilzAdam |
^ free helper function |
18:43 |
mauvebic |
thats handy unless you need to do +/- 1 for x,y, or z |
18:44 |
PilzAdam |
function copy_v3(vec, add) if add then return {x=vec.x+add.x.,y=vec.y+add.y,z=vec.z+add.z} else return {x=vec.x,y=vec.y,z=vec.z} end end |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
wow, lots of jungle trees around. I may need to fine-tune the guard radius a little :-) |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
? |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
Yep! |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
Hello! |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
Yep |
18:45 |
rubenwardy |
(VanessaE is talking to her self) |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
look at yesterdays log |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
[-- |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
Yep |
18:45 |
markveidemanis |
Yep |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
" |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
a |
18:46 |
mauvebic |
+q |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
And so on |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
--] |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
remember that? |
18:46 |
Zetetic |
VanessaE: you have proper growing trees? |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
Trees |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
make christmas trees |
18:46 |
markveidemanis |
as entities |
18:46 |
VanessaE |
Zetetic: growing in the sense that they spawn in defined areas and eventually turn from saplings into trees like the regular game trees do, yes. |
18:46 |
Zetetic |
aH |
18:47 |
markveidemanis |
NOOO make it an entity |
18:47 |
Zetetic |
I thought your trees sometimes caused harbours |
18:47 |
Zetetic |
s/harbours/saplings/ |
18:47 |
markveidemanis |
S |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
my mod spawns saplings first, then grows them into trees later, to avoid heavy CPU spikes and server lag |
18:48 |
Calinou |
sfan5: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:ActivatorRail.gif < spotted |
18:48 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: File:ActivatorRail.gif - Minecraft Wiki |
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18:49 |
Jordach |
hahahahahahaha |
18:49 |
Obiewan1111 |
Why is the website still down? :/ |
18:49 |
mauvebic |
romulans |
18:50 |
Zetetic |
Communists |
18:50 |
Jordach |
Klingons on the VPS, scrape 'em off c55!¬ |
18:50 |
markveidemanis |
Moo# |
18:50 |
rubenwardy |
ServerError: LuaError: error: .../waterplus/init.lua:120: bad argument #-2 to 'set_node' (string expected, got nil) |
18:51 |
markveidemanis |
Uh-Oh |
18:52 |
Calinou |
"Textures for blocks and items now have individual image files." <= on minecraft |
18:52 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: are you calling minetest.env.set_node() or minetest.env:set_node() ? |
18:52 |
Calinou |
means easier conversions :D |
18:52 |
NakedFury |
saw that calinou? |
18:52 |
rubenwardy |
: |
18:52 |
NakedFury |
that is good news for us |
18:52 |
rubenwardy |
minetest.env:set_node(from,nh_from) |
18:52 |
Jordach |
Calinou, drag and drop baby! |
18:53 |
kaeza |
may I take a look at the code? PM if you want |
18:53 |
Jordach |
(not in the rude sense)_ |
18:53 |
mauvebic |
could someone make a waterworld type mapgen? where water level is y= 50 or 100 |
18:53 |
Jordach |
wait |
18:53 |
Jordach |
i had a forum topic asking about that and someone gave me the code |
18:54 |
mauvebic |
i know theres' a flatlands generator, maybe it was adapted from theat |
18:54 |
mauvebic |
*that |
18:55 |
Jordach |
mauvebic nope. |
18:55 |
mauvebic |
i was gonna search the forums but lol |
18:56 |
mauvebic |
one advantage of hosting my mods on google sites is better uptime lol |
18:57 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1517718/ |
18:57 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: Ubuntu Pastebin |
18:57 |
mauvebic |
which i notice more and more newbies and oldies are doing |
18:57 |
mauvebic |
sweet thanks jordach |
18:59 |
NakedFury |
a water world type generation with very very few land masses and then they being small would be a cool game mode |
19:00 |
mauvebic |
you saw the pic of gehn's age i posted on irc yesterday? |
19:00 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, pm |
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mauvebic |
nakedfury http://mystarchive.com/rivenil/images/rockform.jpg |
19:02 |
NakedFury |
ohh I saw that |
19:02 |
mauvebic |
thats why i need the waterworld code :) |
19:02 |
mauvebic |
*needed |
19:03 |
NakedFury |
well place the water over 100 Y so its not easy to go build in the seabed |
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mauvebic |
i may have to learn some basic-ass cpp to submit a patch to change the sky colour though |
19:06 |
thexyz |
Jordach: I offered to host it a long time ago |
19:06 |
Jordach |
i know |
19:06 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Jordach's head |
19:06 |
thexyz |
so better ask c55 |
19:06 |
Jordach |
o hai NekoGloop |
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19:07 |
Calinou |
hi NekoGloop |
19:07 |
kaeza |
hey Neko |
19:07 |
rubenwardy |
the finite mod works! |
19:09 |
Jordach |
impossibru |
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19:09 |
Jordach |
also, texture making wise, i learned a ton from minetest faithful |
19:09 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: lol jungle trees grow underwater |
19:09 |
Jordach |
:O |
19:09 |
VanessaE |
they grow a bit below sea level sure |
19:09 |
VanessaE |
screenshot? |
19:09 |
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19:10 |
NekoGloop |
Minecraft logic fail: wheat grows next to lava |
19:11 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
lava would evaporate any remaining water in the ground |
19:12 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635245589.jpg |
19:12 |
Calinou |
*drops in suggestion for minetest_game* magma (lava with a different texture) should generate at the bottom of the map (somewhere at -30900) and kills instantly, and cannot be picked up |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
er, those aren't my jungle trees :-) |
19:13 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: also: epic jungle tree: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635208712.jpg |
19:13 |
mauvebic |
if the ground was cold enough lava would solidify into molten rock |
19:13 |
Calinou |
would be easy to make |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: you playing around with the rules/axiom/biome defs? :-) |
19:13 |
kaeza |
nope |
19:13 |
kaeza |
only with interval anc chance for the ABM |
19:13 |
kaeza |
nad* |
19:13 |
Oblivion1500 |
Calinou: what would be the point of that? |
19:13 |
kaeza |
and* |
19:14 |
Calinou |
Oblivion1500: some kind of bedrock? |
19:14 |
Calinou |
but that hurts :3 |
19:14 |
VanessaE |
weird. they are always supposed to be + shaped trunks, those look like single-node-thick trunks |
19:14 |
Calinou |
just having an invisible wall doesn't make the game feel "finished" |
19:14 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: they are |
19:14 |
mauvebic |
its hard to get any substance to kill instantly though |
19:14 |
kaeza |
lemme get you a screen |
19:14 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: set 20 damage per second |
19:14 |
Oblivion1500 |
so no going past that point? |
19:15 |
Calinou |
Oblivion1500: border of map is -30912, adding that magma a few layers up (-30900) |
19:15 |
mauvebic |
i set it to 100 and i can still walk through it fast enough :/ |
19:15 |
Calinou |
mauvebic: you can't use fast mode in liquids |
19:15 |
Calinou |
(fly, you can) |
19:15 |
Oblivion1500 |
nice, not like anyone is really going that far |
19:15 |
Calinou |
(should be fixed imo, btw :P) |
19:15 |
Oblivion1500 |
but a good idea none the less |
19:15 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635455618.jpg |
19:16 |
mauvebic |
well yeah even flyfast should kill if damage is on :-) |
19:16 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/409 <= can anyone with permissions merge this (please don't mind the tabs, it's ONE line)? thanks |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: interesting, you must be using an older version of the jungle tree code then .. |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
wait, |
19:17 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: I pulled yesterday |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
I know why I think |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
is your MT build from at least late in the day, Jan 8? |
19:17 |
kaeza |
yup, also pulled yesterday |
19:18 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
19:18 |
kaeza |
lemme everything is pretty much up to date |
19:18 |
kaeza |
s/lemme/ |
19:18 |
kaeza |
// * |
19:19 |
VanessaE |
very weird, because they're not coded to be anything but + shaped trunks |
19:20 |
kaeza |
local JT_SPAWN_INTERVAL = 1; local JT_SPAWN_CHANCE = 1; local JT_GROW_INTERVAL = 1; local JT_GROW_CHANCE = 1; |
19:20 |
kaeza |
those are the things I changed |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
*nod* that's all that should need changed... |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
can you pastebin one of the jungle tree defs? |
19:20 |
kaeza |
gimme a sec |
19:21 |
kaeza |
http://pastebin.com/k6nuZF3Z |
19:21 |
kaeza |
there^ |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
something is screwed up somewhere on your install then...because they are definitely not coded to do that... |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
the defs look right |
19:22 |
rubenwardy |
uploading video of finite water |
19:22 |
VanessaE |
wait... |
19:23 |
VanessaE |
did you also pull in the latest plantlife? |
19:23 |
kaeza |
hmm |
19:23 |
kaeza |
lemme check that |
19:23 |
Oblivion1500 |
VanessaE: do you have a survival world? |
19:23 |
VanessaE |
Oblivion1500: nope. creative only at the moment. |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: yeah, you need the very latest git of plantlife (as in, last night's commit)...I had to expand the API to allow for these trees. |
19:24 |
Oblivion1500 |
VanessaE: ok, i just like all the mods implented on your server |
19:24 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: ~/.minetest/games/testing/mods/plantlife$ git pull |
19:24 |
kaeza |
Already up-to-date. |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
Oblivion1500: when the map loader gets fixed, I might consider it. |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: and you're sure you're actually *running* those latest mods? :-) |
19:25 |
Oblivion1500 |
VanessaE: sweet just let me know :) |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
there's no way my code can do that :-) |
19:25 |
kaeza |
yup |
19:25 |
kaeza |
just in case lemme create a new world |
19:25 |
kaeza |
hmm |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
damn it why do the forums have to be down NOW of all times!? |
19:26 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles loudly |
19:27 |
NekoGloop |
Because now is when you want them. |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/moretrees-screenshot.png |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/moretrees-screenshot2.png |
19:28 |
VanessaE |
I was about to post THOSE onto the moretrees thread as better screenshots than what I first posted. |
19:28 |
* Jordach |
notices that VanessaE's resolution almost matches Jordachs |
19:29 |
VanessaE |
1280x1024. |
19:29 |
rubenwardy |
Finite Water in Minetest |
19:29 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMPIOO2vGc&feature=youtu.be |
19:29 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest Finite Water: Waterplus - YouTube |
19:29 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_636211466.jpg |
19:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: strange. very very strange |
19:29 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: "This video is currently unavailable" |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
it's almost like the map isn't fully loading. |
19:30 |
NakedFury |
rubenwardy that is awesome |
19:30 |
NakedFury |
I mean it |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: NICE!!!! |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
try again, kaeza? |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
thank you all :D |
19:30 |
NakedFury |
question: if you open more space will the water go down to fill those new spaces? |
19:30 |
rubenwardy |
no |
19:31 |
rubenwardy |
not yet |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: now the water just needs to "flow" (animate) and dry up if it gets too thin |
19:31 |
rubenwardy |
it will just hover |
19:31 |
* Jordach |
sees fps at 15 |
19:32 |
Jordach |
laggy mod! |
19:32 |
VanessaE |
low fps != lag |
19:32 |
rubenwardy |
what I need to do is if water has air below it, it disappears and forms a water drop |
19:32 |
rubenwardy |
It runs at 30fps when the recorder is not running |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: is it possible to exploit the existing flowing water draw type with your code? |
19:33 |
rubenwardy |
flowing water does not support node boxes |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
bummer |
19:33 |
rubenwardy |
and the water drop forms a puddle on landing, and if that puddle is next to water, it turns into a low water bit |
19:33 |
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19:33 |
VanessaE |
RBA or Jeija was also looking into that also btw |
19:33 |
NakedFury |
http://www.moddb.com/games/liquid-cubed something like this is what you want to achieve? |
19:33 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: Liquid Cubed Windows game - Mod DB |
19:34 |
rubenwardy |
tell them off |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
you should coordinate with whoever it was and really make that badass :-) |
19:34 |
rubenwardy |
have they started? |
19:34 |
rubenwardy |
kind of, NakedFury |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember who it was or if they'd started their work yet |
19:34 |
Oblivion1500 |
rubenwardy: nice |
19:35 |
rubenwardy |
I will release it on github soon |
19:35 |
rubenwardy |
(there is 130 lines of code) |
19:36 |
rubenwardy |
for 3 hours workish |
19:36 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: can you include hooks in your mod that pipeworks can use? |
19:36 |
rubenwardy |
group={water=<level_percentage>} ? |
19:36 |
VanessaE |
that works. :D |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
water is already defined though |
19:37 |
VanessaE |
finite_water=percentage then |
19:40 |
Oblivion1500 |
if we could intergrate the finilized version with minecraft we could make greving with water almost imposible and if you did the same with lava that would be cool |
19:40 |
Oblivion1500 |
minetest* |
19:40 |
NekoGloop |
rubenwardy: Redefine it... |
19:41 |
rubenwardy |
it will be laggy |
19:41 |
rubenwardy |
probably |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
redefine it with a default of 100% so that it won't change anything initialliy |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
initially* |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
hrm, that's a problem |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
ok, then this needs done in C++ |
19:41 |
rubenwardy |
I dont know |
19:41 |
rubenwardy |
no laggier than mobs |
19:41 |
VanessaE |
wait.. |
19:42 |
rubenwardy |
but a bit laggier than farming |
19:42 |
rubenwardy |
interval = 1 |
19:42 |
rubenwardy |
chance = 1 |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
redefine water - but don't change anything about it. Take it out of creative inventory. Put yours in place instead. Make buckets always pour *your* water. |
19:42 |
rubenwardy |
depends on how much water there is |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
problem solved :-) |
19:42 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: is this better? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_636997428.jpg |
19:42 |
VanessaE |
so there would be two waters, but only one kind can be placed by the player - yours. |
19:42 |
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19:43 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: not really. Something is not working right. I suggest you wipe out moretrees, plantlife, minetest_game, and the engine, and re-clone all four. Something's badly broken. |
19:44 |
rubenwardy |
bucket.register_liquid(source, flowing, itemname, inventory_image) |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: go on my server near my old home (the brick one). lots of jungle trees there that grew with the current code |
19:45 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: seems like the engine was not up to date after all :P |
19:45 |
kaeza |
sowwy |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
told ya :) |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
I knew those trees couldn't make 1-node-wide trunks unless your build was too old :) |
19:46 |
rubenwardy |
just need to change a bucket's on_use function |
19:50 |
VanessaE |
reason being, btw, is that the trunk size parameter was changed from boolean to string, to take at least three possible values |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
(was true = thin, false = + shaped, now it's "single", "double", and "crossed" I think) |
19:51 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: ^_^ https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_637444171.jpg |
19:51 |
VanessaE |
I should randomize the jungle tree defs a little more to allow for shorter trees, all three trunk sizes, etc. |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
much more better :D |
19:52 |
kaeza |
;) |
19:52 |
NekoGloop |
mc skyblock: creeper spawns, game over. |
19:52 |
thexyz |
celeron55: btw, my offer to host minetest.net still stands |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
also, if you have bas080's vines/ropes mod, jungle trees will grow vines like in MC :-) |
19:52 |
kaeza |
also: flying trees on octuteam world: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_3930614684.jpg |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
heh, I've seen that before....and someone seems to like HDX too :-) |
19:53 |
kaeza |
it's Awesomesauceâ„¢ |
19:54 |
VanessaE |
(Awesomesauceâ„¢ and the Awesomesauce logo are copyright 2012 Mark Traceur, some rights reserved) |
19:54 |
VanessaE |
;) |
19:54 |
kaeza |
hehe |
19:54 |
rubenwardy |
done, vanessa |
19:55 |
sapier |
that marctraceur requireing anyone to use gplv3? *g* |
19:55 |
kaeza |
...marc? |
19:55 |
kaeza |
lol |
19:55 |
sapier |
oops :-) |
19:56 |
NekoGloop |
mactracuer |
19:56 |
rubenwardy |
done, vanessaE |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: cool |
19:57 |
kaeza |
btw why remove having to press 'E' to fly fast? |
19:57 |
kaeza |
or is it toggleable now? |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: lot of people didn't like it, but yeah it's configurable now |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
defaults to off/always fast |
19:57 |
kaeza |
ok |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
c55 especially didn't like it |
19:58 |
kaeza |
I kinda found it useful |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
personally, I wouldn't have minded - provided it hadn't been bound to "E", but maybe "F". |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
(I use "E" for descend) |
19:58 |
kaeza |
reserve 'F' for a future flashlight :P |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
:P |
19:59 |
NekoGloop |
Tab for inventory |
19:59 |
NekoGloop |
E for running |
19:59 |
NekoGloop |
What's the problem. |
19:59 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop: +1 for Tab |
19:59 |
sapier |
is minetest.net down ? |
20:00 |
kaeza |
'I' is inconvenient |
20:00 |
NakedFury |
games usually do shift for running |
20:00 |
NakedFury |
ctrl for crouching or C |
20:00 |
kaeza |
Ctrl = crouching / descend |
20:00 |
rubenwardy |
sapier: Finite Water in Minetest |
20:00 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMPIOO2vGc&feature=youtu.be |
20:00 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest Finite Water: Waterplus - YouTube |
20:01 |
kaeza |
also, X, C, and V for radio comm... sorry, too much CS :P |
20:01 |
NakedFury |
z for prone |
20:02 |
kaeza |
DoD? |
20:02 |
NakedFury |
e for interaction r for reload |
20:02 |
sapier |
great work :-) |
20:02 |
NakedFury |
most games that let me go prone go with Z for it |
20:02 |
sapier |
how much cpu power does this require? :-) |
20:02 |
rubenwardy |
not as much as mobs |
20:02 |
rubenwardy |
it is a single ABM with inteval of 1 |
20:03 |
rubenwardy |
and chance of 1 |
20:03 |
kaeza |
If someone patched the engine to allow checking keys from Lua this would open great possibilities |
20:03 |
sapier |
so it requires mich more than current mobs ... they don't use abm's at all ;-) |
20:03 |
kaeza |
(arbitrary keys) |
20:03 |
sapier |
but still it looks great |
20:04 |
rubenwardy |
are ABM's worse than on_globalstep for running through stuff? |
20:04 |
sapier |
not quite sure but i think both are bad |
20:05 |
kaeza |
rubenwardy: they are used for different purposes I think |
20:05 |
sapier |
at least on_globalstep ain't multiplied by number of active nodes |
20:05 |
rubenwardy |
true |
20:05 |
VanessaE |
abms aren't bad if your trigger node(s) aren't too plentiful |
20:05 |
rubenwardy |
although you still have to cycle though them |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
and using abms means you can let the engine's scheduler handle some of the work |
20:06 |
sapier |
finite water nodes potentially are endless ;-) |
20:06 |
rubenwardy |
I would release the mod in alpha on the forum, but... |
20:06 |
rubenwardy |
at least http://dev.minetest.net/ is up |
20:06 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Minetest Developer Wiki |
20:06 |
VanessaE |
but the %&#*%&*#% forums are down. |
20:06 |
kaeza |
!ping minetest.net |
20:06 |
kaeza |
? |
20:06 |
moltenbot |
host minetest.net DOWN |
20:07 |
kaeza |
frack |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
!ping dev.minetest.net |
20:07 |
moltenbot |
64 bytes from 176.9.122.10: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=8.74 ms |
20:07 |
sapier |
still abm's are a nightmare if applied to common nodes |
20:07 |
sapier |
e.g. "dirt" |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
such as dirt |
20:07 |
mauvebic |
dirt-ambience done |
20:07 |
mauvebic |
erm |
20:07 |
mauvebic |
*space |
20:07 |
VanessaE |
sapier: truew. |
20:07 |
VanessaE |
true* |
20:08 |
* mauvebic |
more coffee |
20:08 |
* VanessaE |
hooks up mauvebic's coffee to an IV pump |
20:08 |
sapier |
that's what earlier mobf versions did for spawning ... and most likely is reason for mobf requireing so much cpu power |
20:08 |
sapier |
is anyone interested in a lua callback called on_chunk_load? |
20:09 |
kaeza |
hmm |
20:09 |
rubenwardy |
(notice how I spill some accidentally at the end of the video) |
20:09 |
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