Time Nick Message 00:00 jordach uberi, i used irc999 but its workable, but just to hard to navigate with 00:01 Uberi jordach: totally, I have a lot of trouble with the chat commands 00:01 jordach also, y u no have /me command 00:02 jordach anyways, i need to go to bed before i fall asleep 00:02 jordach bye 00:02 Uberi o/ 00:09 NakedFury http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/17000-linux-powered-rifle-brings-auto-aim-to-the-real-world/ 00:12 Uberi :O 00:12 kaeza wta 00:12 kaeza wat* 00:30 Kacey hey kaeza what happened to doing that mesecins extension? 00:30 Kacey cons* 00:43 Exio http://blog.makerbar.com/?p=254 i want one 00:44 Uberi whoa four hours of battery 00:46 RealBadAngel ok, briches ver 3: http://realbadangel.pl/birches3.png and willows: http://realbadangel.pl/willows2.png 00:47 Uberi sweet trees RealBadAngel, is that the snow mod off to the right? 00:47 RealBadAngel yes 00:47 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/spruce.png 00:48 Uberi I like how it uses a thicker trunk 00:54 jakssoul Are there any semi-decent mob mods? 00:54 Uberi simple mobs and mobf are the best IMO 00:55 marktraceur jakssoul: Is 50% decent your upper or lower bound? 00:55 jakssoul Huh? xD 00:56 Elench Lower I'd guess 00:56 marktraceur jakssoul: Do you want a mod that is at most semi-decent, or one that is at least semi-decent 00:56 Elench But people are strange 00:56 marktraceur Elench: I know, but I figured I'd be obtuse about it. 00:56 jakssoul At least semi-decent. 00:56 Uberi we're not quite at semidecent yet 00:56 Uberi but getting there 00:56 jakssoul Not even semidecent? Awhhh. 00:56 Elench I thought I was playing along 00:57 jakssoul Are there any that won't crash my game? 00:57 jakssoul Or use 2049148835GB of RAM? 00:57 jakssoul Hahha 00:57 Exio mobf are more "resource intensive" afaik, but it has a lot of mobs and stuff from/with them 00:57 Exio mobf is* :P 01:00 Kacey kaeza? 01:00 jakssoul Any recent movies that would be worth watching? 01:02 kaeza Kacey: what? 01:02 mauvebic looper came out on dvd :/ 01:02 mauvebic the story sucks but the future scenes are nice 01:03 Kacey are we eer going to make that data bus mod? 01:03 Kacey ever* 01:04 kaeza hmm 01:04 kaeza will it be worth it? 01:05 kaeza I mean, what do you think it will be useful for? 01:06 Uberi data bus mod? 01:06 Uberi that would pretty much need a rewrite of all of mesecons 01:07 Uberi it was designed for one state per node, it's hard enough to make crossings already 01:08 Uberi if you wanted to make busses it would probably need to store the multiple states in nodemeta, and simulate each pathway separately 01:08 Uberi it could work but it would be a huge undertaking 01:11 Kacey but it would make computers in minetest possible 01:12 Uberi Kacey: they already are possible 01:12 Uberi I can stack adders up 8 high to make an 8 bit adder 01:12 Uberi I can make a multiplier in 32x5x8 01:12 Uberi an address decoder in even less 01:13 Exio https://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/ wow 01:13 Uberi (and that's not even considering vertical mesecons, which I have not yet tried) 01:13 moltenbot Exio's link: edis.at :: Austria 01:14 mauvebic out of curiosity, \whats the purpose of adding computer parts? 01:15 mauvebic i know notch is supposedly working on a new game with a processor? but im abit sketchy about the details 01:17 marktraceur mauvebic: You're asking about notch in the wrong channel, but it's useful to have computer parts if you want to automate actions 01:17 Kacey trolling on #minecraft 01:18 mauvebic ok but how, what does it let you do in game? 01:18 mauvebic program in assembly, basic? 01:18 Kacey afk dinner 01:18 marktraceur mauvebic: e.g. if you wanted to write an ingame calculator to help you with building things 01:19 marktraceur mauvebic: For example a sphere generator 01:19 mauvebic lol ok 01:19 mauvebic what confuses me is basically every mod is moving to GUI 01:19 mauvebic and this is more basic than chat commands 01:20 mauvebic why not a simple minetest markup language? 01:20 mauvebic the basic format of all shapes is the same, for x, for y, for z 01:21 mauvebic and a conditional on xyz 01:22 mauvebic an interpreter is simpler to write than an ingame processor :p 01:23 mauvebic and when it comes to generating complex shapes, you do need every bit of cpu 01:23 mauvebic i may be able to help with shapes tho 01:27 Uberi mauvebic: I think the game is 0x10c 01:27 mauvebic thats it 01:28 kaeza simple question: is there a function in the MT API to kick somebody from the server without resorting to a ban? 01:28 Uberi kaeza: cause a client error on their end 01:28 mauvebic force disconnect? 01:28 Uberi yeah, like using an invalid inventory name 01:28 mauvebic why not ban or prison? 01:29 Uberi ah, prison is just as good 01:29 kaeza mauvebic: in some cases a ban would be too much 01:29 Uberi unless they're hacking 01:29 kaeza and a simple kick would do 01:29 mauvebic i dunno, if you warn people before banning them i dont see whats wrong with that lol 01:29 Uberi I remember someone mentioned that changing some sort of sneak value basically gave you free_move 01:30 kaeza I am trying to develop a mod to filter bad words, and kick the player if repeated 01:30 mauvebic waste of resources, you cant account for every variation of every bad word 01:31 mauvebic and annoying people will find other ways to annoy 01:31 kaeza for most cases will do 01:31 kaeza and you can always add new words to the list 01:31 mauvebic use the prison mods 01:31 Exio a mod for kicking on repeat will be useful as antispam 'way' 01:32 mauvebic *mod 01:32 mauvebic put signs up in the prison with all the rules 01:32 Uberi and for goodness' sake, use a land protection mod as well 01:33 kaeza RAPHAEL on the forums has done a good jail mod 01:33 mauvebic land protection is simple enough if you think about it: default nodes should be diggable by anyone, everything else shouldn't 01:33 kaeza even if you manage to break out of the prison, it teleports you back to it 01:33 Uberi may I have a link? 01:33 kaeza Uberi: gimme a sec 01:33 Uberi mauvebic: I think the edge cases are important though, what if the player puts a piston outside of the area pushing in? 01:33 kaeza Uberi: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4383 01:33 moltenbot kaeza's link: [mod] Jail (0.0.1) [jail] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 01:34 Uberi what if a falling node is in the area, and resting on a block outside of it? 01:34 mauvebic you cant account for every node thats generated by every mod 01:34 mauvebic especially if you have alot 01:35 mauvebic the problem is the number of protection zones, with shared access, thats alot of checks before being able to place/dig a node 01:35 Uberi mauvebic: oh yes that is important as well 01:36 mauvebic a factions mod may be inevitable: it would be simpler to divide large chunks of the map between groups of people 01:36 mauvebic and they could kick people out or invite them to their nation to build 01:37 Uberi ah, factions mod would be great! 01:38 mauvebic ideally when factions have covered a reasonable amount of their territory the admin or the server could grant extra chunks 01:38 mauvebic or you could have warfare 01:38 mauvebic depending on the type of server 01:39 Uberi or maybe territory wars style, perhaps 01:39 mauvebic the basic rule could be a territory (chunk) can be occupied when 95% of the nodes are default 01:40 Uberi default? but lots of player made structures are made from default blocks 01:40 mauvebic then define all the 'natural' nodes 01:41 mauvebic if a chunk is mostly made up of that, then the faction that holds it isn't really using or defending it, so it can be occupied 01:41 Uberi perhaps 01:41 Uberi what about a base courtyard? or a garden? 01:41 mauvebic base courtyard? 01:42 mauvebic each faction could have flag nodes that cant be crafted or pulled from creative 01:43 mauvebic or each chunk could have a white flag until claimed 01:44 * kaeza directs mauvebic to his forum post http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62472#p62472 01:44 moltenbot kaeza's link: There are way too many servers! (Page 1) - Offtopic - Minetest Forums 01:45 mauvebic pretty much the same idea lol 01:45 mauvebic i have the weapons lol 01:45 mauvebic guns, shooting' npc's, turrets 01:46 kaeza I hunger for a *real* PvP server 01:46 mauvebic i dont know how a cooloff period would work though 01:47 mauvebic ideally i would place a limit on the amount of ammunition each faction can produce 01:47 kaeza nice idea 01:47 kaeza also, see my other post below 01:47 mauvebic i already put a 2-minute lock on my nukes because it lags when people fire 2-3 at once 01:49 mauvebic im working on shields for my space map 01:49 mauvebic though its hard to kill players on contact when they pass through quickly 01:51 Uberi yeah it's the tunelling issue 01:51 Uberi only raycasting/swept tests will help here 01:53 kaeza or make wider shields ;) 01:53 Kacey back 01:53 kaeza wb 01:54 Kacey ty 01:55 NakedFury add outposts that can be conquered to that pvp mode 01:55 kaeza mauvebic: whenever I want to build some kind of shield (for example, using lava), I usually put ~10 blocks of lava in a small corridor 01:55 * Kacey wants to know why his internet is soooo laggy 01:56 Kacey hang on guys i want to go troll on #minecraft 01:57 minetestftw AndrewPH is on both channels 01:57 Uberi liquids are perfect since they are indestructable to things like TNT 01:59 kaeza aaand minetestftw is banned from #minecraft in 3..2..1.. 01:59 minetestftw not yet 01:59 minetestftw haha time to troll 02:00 minetestftw crap 02:00 minetestftw undercoveragent can you troll alittle? 02:00 undercoveragent (23:56:39) modo (+q *!*@c-67-190-14-129.hsd1.co.comcast.net) por ChanServ 02:00 minetestftw Exio? 02:00 undercoveragent is that you? 02:00 undercoveragent lol 02:01 Exio qwat 02:01 Exio s/q// 02:01 Exio nah, playing wz sorry 02:01 minetestftw why are you on #minetest 02:02 Kacey was i banned from #minecraft 02:02 undercoveragent (23:59:11) Mustek: .whois Kacey 02:02 undercoveragent lol 02:03 undercoveragent hello NekoGloop :3 02:03 Exio wut 02:03 NekoGloop hello kaeza. 02:06 Kacey brb ip change time 02:08 Kacey ok back 02:08 Kacey did my ip change? 02:08 NekoGloop no 02:08 Kacey damnit how do i change my ip? 02:09 Muadtralk you try flipping your router switch? 02:09 Muadtralk that works for me :) 02:09 Muadtralk not for everyone though 02:09 Kacey router switch? 02:09 Muadtralk unplug your router 02:09 Kacey uuum no 02:10 Muadtralk then plug it back in 02:10 Muadtralk hmmm? 02:10 Muadtralk why not? :) 02:10 Kacey that takes forever to restart 02:10 NekoGloop press the power button 02:10 Muadtralk so....? 02:10 Muadtralk if you actually need to change your ip 02:10 Muadtralk then try it 02:10 Kacey i can always switch routers 02:10 Kacey brb 02:14 Kacey well that didnt work... 02:14 undercoveragent +b from #minecraft lol 02:15 Kacey +b? 02:15 Kacey ban? 02:15 kaeza yup 02:15 Kacey aha i know how i can do this... 02:15 Kacey i need teamviewer and another computer... 02:16 Kacey and yet they didnt notice kaeza there... 02:16 Kacey hello welcome to the epic ersion of minecrap 02:17 Gambit OldCoder, sfan5|OFF, VanessaE: Can you please keep your users under control? 02:17 Kacey who me? 02:17 VanessaE ? 02:17 Kacey good luck with that 02:17 Gambit They're constantly joining #minecraft, posting a bunch of spam, and then parting. 02:17 Gambit Fucks like Kacey here. 02:18 Gambit Apparently they actually get together and plan it too. 02:18 Kacey damnit i would /kick if i had op 02:18 Gambit If you could put some pressure on them to behave, we'd really appreciate it. 02:18 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Gambit's head 02:18 VanessaE that's really not something anyone here can control, however we do generally discourage that. 02:18 Kacey but in all actuallity that was not planned but more of it just happened 02:18 NekoGloop Having #minecraft troubles? ;) 02:18 VanessaE well, the spamming. Kittens are another matter. 02:19 Uberi spamming the IRC is not very useful in any way 02:19 Gambit VanessaE: I understand. 02:19 Gambit Well thanks. 02:19 * VanessaE goes back to coding 02:19 NekoGloop For a second i thought that was our gambit, the one who made the minetoon pack. 02:19 Gambit NekoGloop: They'd have about 30 seconds to use the nick :P 02:19 mgodzilla hmm... 02:20 NekoGloop Then i remembered the month or so before i was banned in #minecraft. 02:20 Kacey AndrewPH is on both channels 02:20 mgodzilla what's this channel for, gambit? 02:21 Kacey minetest related stuff 02:21 Gambit mgodzilla: Minetest; An open source game in the same genre as minecraft. 02:21 Kacey ITS BETTER THAN MINECRAP!!!!! 02:21 VanessaE Kacey, don't. 02:21 mgodzilla nice... 02:21 NakedFury minecraft in C++ with Lua for modding 02:21 mgodzilla ware aperson? 02:21 NekoGloop voxel isnt a genre. 02:22 NakedFury and we don't condone(correct word?) going to minecraft channell and spamming or trolling 02:22 mgodzilla anyway...just curious. :) 02:22 NekoGloop yes NakedFury, that is the right word. 02:22 NekoGloop Mainly i play minecraft only because of the server minigames. 02:22 Gambit Kacey: You're doing a terrible job representing this project. 02:22 Kacey project? 02:22 Gambit Like seriously, be a good freenode citizen. 02:22 NekoGloop Ghostcraft, skyblock, survival games, etc. 02:23 NekoGloop Gambit: This is, sadly, his normal activity. 02:23 Uberi this is how quite a few people are, normally 02:23 Kacey alongside eating all of NekoGloop's internet kittens 02:23 NekoGloop And then you have landmine, which is an entirely different topic. 02:24 VanessaE Kacey: knock it off before you get booted outta here too. 02:24 Kacey at least im not landmine 02:24 VanessaE that much is true. 02:24 Kacey and i have been good all week 02:25 Kacey i had to let it out 02:25 NekoGloop Until someone from #minecraft joined 02:25 Kacey kaeza also went on #minecraft iirc 02:25 VanessaE Kacey: IRC it not the place to let it out, here or in #minecraft 02:27 Kacey it appears that half of #minecraft followed Gambit 02:27 NekoGloop I have join messages off 02:27 Gambit Yeah apparently they love drama. <_< 02:27 NekoGloop I think that is currently a good descision 02:28 NekoGloop Gambit: well #minetest == drama so tell them to stay. 02:28 Kacey only when windows comes up it is drama lol 02:28 mauvebic lol 02:28 kaeza Kacey: yeah, so? 02:28 mauvebic minetest is drama, yes lol 02:29 NekoGloop ahem, you really want to start that? 02:29 Gambit FSF zealousy is absolutely not how you promote a FOSS project. 02:29 Kacey idk ive started drama already 02:29 NekoGloop Was i promoting the project? 02:29 Gambit Kacey: You need be more ESR than RMS. 02:29 NekoGloop No, just the channel. 02:29 Kacey more would be fun but there would be a /kick following 02:29 mauvebic http://goo.gl/Wg6NS 02:29 NekoGloop ;-) 02:30 VanessaE fwiw, I have a KICK ASS conifers + jungletrees mod in the works :-) 02:30 NekoGloop Sweet. 02:30 Kacey nice 02:30 Uberi VanessaE: make jungle plants gen again somehow around the trees! 02:30 VanessaE I will. 02:30 NekoGloop She'll just use the same perlin as the jungle grass does. 02:30 Uberi then the jungle tree saplings could randomly spawn jungle grass around them, making jungle grass renewable 02:30 NakedFury bad PR for minetest this thing brought us 02:30 * Kacey is going to go code something or other for a while 02:31 VanessaE NekoGloop: spot on :-) 02:31 VanessaE however, there are some biome limits on the trees that aren't applied to grass. 02:31 Gambit I've been keeping an eye on minetest since way way back when it was first announced - before #minecraft was even a channel yet - and I look forward to seeing where it goes. Please all crack down on the assholes within your community, and best of luck. Bye. 02:31 NekoGloop This ^ 02:31 mauvebic just one? 02:32 NekoGloop just one what. 02:32 mauvebic lol 02:32 Uberi well he was very civil 02:32 NekoGloop He is very civil. 02:32 NekoGloop Much more than most other people i've met irl or in irc. 02:32 mauvebic simple solution, kick people who gloat about spamming other channels, any 02:33 NekoGloop so kick kaeza. 02:33 NekoGloop :-) 02:33 * Kacey is back from his popcorn break 02:33 mauvebic in future 02:33 kaeza lolwut 02:33 NekoGloop We could use a /topic with some actual rules in it. 02:33 Kacey i wasn't spamming 02:33 mauvebic cuz if you let it slide here, eventually theyll let it slide for their users too... 02:34 mauvebic and they outnumber us 02:34 Uberi yeah I don't see any rules in the topic 02:35 kaeza I just asked why they banned everyone who mentioned minetest (spamming or not) and Gambit just went "fck you" 02:35 mauvebic thats because some of our users have been doing this for a while now 02:35 NekoGloop They remember me, whether they remember me as me or not. 02:35 mauvebic and it really doesn't give free software a good name 02:36 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees 02:36 VanessaE \:D/ 02:36 marktraceur mauvebic: To hear most people tell it, nobody gives free software a good name :/ 02:36 mauvebic and that excuses spamming the MC channels? 02:36 marktraceur VanessaE: I do not understand your emoticon 02:36 marktraceur mauvebic: No, I was just saying. 02:36 VanessaE marktraceur: :D with raised arms. it's \o/ times 10. 02:36 VanessaE :-) 02:36 kaeza lol marktraceur 02:37 NekoGloop It's generally a trollface, marktraceur 02:37 mauvebic when it comes to free software, we have to deal with our own lot first lol 02:37 VanessaE um, not in this case :-) 02:37 marktraceur *nod* 02:37 NekoGloop In that usage it represents extreme happiness. 02:37 VanessaE it's a YAY!!!! face. :-) 02:37 kaeza VanessaE: err... no README? 02:37 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm much more interested in getting this community to treat newcomers with friendliness, as opposed to getting #minecraft to not be dicks 02:37 VanessaE working on it. 02:37 VanessaE kaeza: ^ 02:37 Exio VanessaE: \o\ \o| |o/ /o/ |o| \o/ 02:37 Exio :P 02:38 kaeza /o 02:38 Exio /o\ 02:38 kaeza (o 02:38 Kacey relaxing on the couch. 02:38 mauvebic our players are spamming their channels and we're being dicks? 02:38 mauvebic *theyre 02:38 marktraceur NekoGloop: Or anime gangster walk 02:39 VanessaE (shamelessly stolen from the comments at the top of init.lua :D ) 02:39 NekoGloop Haha. 02:39 kaeza VanessaE: +10000000 02:39 kaeza +10000000 to RBA too :D 02:39 Kacey |o| falling down a water slide 02:39 marktraceur mauvebic: Well, if you ban someone for simply mentioning minetest, yeah, you're being a dick. Obviously whoever is spamming the channel is also a dick, but so is anyone who generalizes like that. 02:39 kaeza marktraceur: agreed 02:40 mauvebic perhaps they associate minetest with spam and zealotry 02:40 kaeza that's what actually happened to me right now 02:40 marktraceur *shrug* 02:41 marktraceur mauvebic: I'd guess it's more likely that they simply don't like the competition being in their channel. But that's just a theory. 02:41 mauvebic all i know is since i joined minetest people have been bragging about spamming their channels so im not surprised they react this way now 02:41 kaeza Gambit responded "F you", I asked him to not insult me, he called me a$$hole, so I called him a$$hole, ???, prof...err..ban 02:42 NekoGloop Generally you should keep minetest in #minetest and minecraft in #minecraft 02:42 NekoGloop I cant; i'm banned :-) 02:42 mauvebic well yeah but some people see it as a battle to convert people from MC 02:43 kaeza NekoGloop: yes, so you suggest we should ban anyone who tlks about MC? no. Just the spammers 02:43 kaeza talks* 02:43 mauvebic MC is a commercial product 02:43 marktraceur kaeza: This is exactly my policy, yes. 02:43 Uberi we're discussing the spam issue in #minecraft, right now 02:44 NekoGloop Gasp 02:44 NekoGloop Something productive happening in #minecraft 02:44 Kacey it wasnt spamm 02:44 Kacey spam* 02:44 NekoGloop World is going to end. 02:44 mauvebic do you seriously think a commercial product will give you space to advertise the competition? 02:44 kaeza marktraceur: about banning MC users? or the spammers? 02:44 marktraceur kaeza: I don't ban people, obviously, for talking about Minecraft. We would have nobody in the channel if I did. 02:45 mauvebic go talk about star wars on a star trek forum 02:45 Kacey that is fun lol 02:45 mauvebic yeah well, there's also a correlation between shit-disturbing and griefing 02:46 mauvebic after all, they dont have to pay to come grief our shit lol 02:46 Kacey i never see Kray talk... 02:47 NekoGloop That's cuz he doesnt. 02:47 kaeza neither half of the user list for that matter 02:47 mauvebic seriously lol 02:47 Gambit There's not going to be any "retribution". lol. Here's the thing these spammers don't realize. #minecraft is a channel on freenode for a cross platform java game. 02:47 Uberi I always wonder about that 02:47 Gambit Half of us are linux users. 02:47 Gambit Probably a quarter of us are FOSS devs. 02:48 Gambit They're not accomplishing anything. 02:48 marktraceur Probably 80% or more are GNU users, I'd imagine :) 02:48 mauvebic not all of us are immature (<18) 02:48 Kacey if Notch and c55 were to talk on irc i wonder what woulld happen... 02:48 * marktraceur speculates wildly to make not much of a point 02:48 Kacey would* 02:48 Exio mauvebic: "immature" isn't the same as "<18" 02:49 NekoGloop Kacey: You've said that before, and i have said that nothing would come of it before. 02:49 Uberi definitely, Exio 02:49 Kacey no i havent... 02:49 NekoGloop Gambit: Round here, that number is closer to 90% linux users. 02:49 mauvebic and were converting more ubuntu users every day lol 02:49 Kacey it was 89%bbut then i found linux 02:49 Gambit Yeah well, #minecraft attracts all the redditors too >_> 02:49 kaeza Gambit: except for NekoGloop. 02:50 * kaeza gives NekoGloop a linux CD 02:50 NekoGloop Me, jordach, and one other person whose name escapes me. 02:50 * mauvebic gives kaeza an AOL cd 02:50 NekoGloop The only people here who use windows. 02:50 kaeza DO NOT WANT!!! 02:50 mauvebic but you can use it as a coaster 02:50 * Kacey hands himself a live usb 02:50 kaeza lol 02:50 kaeza AOL? 02:51 mauvebic i still have some of those lying around lol 02:51 Uberi whoa 02:51 NekoGloop kaeza: The reason i dont use linux is because it doesnt load. 02:51 Uberi does the 30 day trial still work? 02:51 mauvebic doubtful but some of them come with IE 4! 02:51 kaeza Uberi: I lol'd 02:51 mauvebic lol 02:52 mauvebic i even have one of those big floppies 02:52 Uberi IE4 is the best browser ever! 02:52 kaeza NekoGloop: what do you mean by 'doesn't load'? 02:52 Uberi it makes the malware author's job effortless! 02:52 NekoGloop As in it doesnt load? ;-) 02:52 kaeza boot* ? 02:52 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4394 02:52 VanessaE \o/ 02:52 NekoGloop No, it simply doesnt load that it exists. 02:52 NekoGloop Also, who killed moltenbot. 02:53 Kacey Gambit: i once tryed to sign up for MC but then i realized it cost 30 dollars... 02:53 mauvebic mr peacock, in the library, with the pipe-wrench 02:53 NekoGloop 26.95* 02:53 NekoGloop IIRC. 02:53 Kacey $30 02:53 NekoGloop Idk, it's on the giftcard i bought for me :3 02:53 * Kacey has no money 02:53 kaeza NekoGloop: it's ignoring VanessaE 02:54 kaeza :P 02:54 VanessaE kaeza: at my request. 02:54 Uberi can I get it to ignore me too? 02:54 NekoGloop That's obvious by the fact that you are using linux and minetest, Kacey. 02:54 NekoGloop ;-) 02:54 kaeza VanessaE: BTW +10000000 again 02:54 kaeza gotta try that 02:55 Kacey but i hae a $100 usb stick 02:55 * NekoGloop randomly puts another kitten on Gambit's head 02:55 VanessaE Uberi: ask iqualfragile 02:55 Uberi will do 02:55 * mauvebic puts on black stockings 02:56 kaeza can I get moltenbot to ignore me? I want to post this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 02:56 moltenbot kaeza's link: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube 02:56 kaeza d*mn moltenbot 02:56 * Kacey finds a pouch of catnip 02:57 Uberi heheheh 02:57 * Kacey waves it in front of NekoGloop 02:57 * mauvebic does weird cat noises 02:57 NekoGloop You want it to ignore you? 02:57 * mauvebic pukes a hairball 02:57 NekoGloop Get ipv6 02:57 Uberi I would, but it costs extra for my ISP 02:57 NekoGloop Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Gl9gPdG2w 02:58 NekoGloop Uberi: iPad: the only thing good about it is auto ipv6 02:58 Uberi hey VanessaE, does that have separate saplings for each type of tree? 02:58 mauvebic and it makes an attractive cheese-cutting board 02:58 VanessaE Uberi: yes 02:58 Kacey NekoGloop: do you want the catnip or not? 02:59 VanessaE damn map generator is SOOOOOO SLOOOOOW lately...and this is single player mode... 02:59 * Kacey must go to bed now 03:00 VanessaE (and my code isn't actually executing that much) 03:00 Uberi VanessaE: spawn_tree is a bit slower than I imagined 03:01 VanessaE Uberi: actually it's very very fast 03:02 VanessaE what's slow is getting the map loaded in the first place so there's something for them to spawn on :-) 03:03 Exio are you using the new tree API? 03:03 VanessaE yup 03:03 Exio :P nice 03:04 kaeza dafuq? modem is acting weird again... 03:05 mauvebic marmalade 03:05 mauvebic it fixes everything 03:06 VanessaE kaeza: when isn't it? 03:07 mauvebic try renewing your IP the ddos might stop lol 03:07 moltenbot marktraceur's link: About - Minetest 03:08 mauvebic sweet 03:09 marktraceur The topic change is my way of saying "misbehave here, I'll take action; misbehave elsewhere while you representing this project, I'll still take action" 03:09 marktraceur "while you're"* 03:09 mauvebic the penalty is chemical castration 03:09 marktraceur mauvebic: Well, digital castration. +q. 03:09 mauvebic so unless you want to be like justin bieber, behave 03:10 NekoGloop FALCON PAWNCH. 03:10 * NekoGloop random 03:10 mauvebic though you people are so much more tactful than i would be lol 03:11 marktraceur mauvebic: You learn to be tactful as you interact more with people, I think 03:11 mauvebic poppycock, the world needs asses like me :p lol 03:12 mauvebic its usually the asses who die the oldest too lol 03:13 mauvebic my great grandfather used to shoot in the general vicinity of any sollicitors who came near his property, by comparison im pretty sociable lol 03:14 marktraceur mauvebic: I'm considering something like that. I mean, I'll use airsoft, but still. 03:14 mauvebic airsoft? 03:14 marktraceur mauvebic: It's like paintball, except less cartoon-like 03:14 marktraceur mauvebic: Small BBs that don't penetrate skin 03:15 mauvebic ive been shoot with a bb gun lol it burns 03:15 marktraceur Yeah, that's a bad plan mmkay 03:15 marktraceur mauvebic: Airsoft at close range hurts like a bitch, too 03:15 mauvebic you get that many solicitors? 03:17 mauvebic out in the country i dont get many tradespeople knocking but the fucking jehovas and missionaries drive me nuts lol 03:17 mauvebic it borders on harassment sometimes lol 03:18 mauvebic they seem to assume low rent = low IQ 03:18 marktraceur mauvebic: No, but I also intend to implement this plan w/r/t other people who enter my property. I may engineer parts of that situation, too. 03:19 mauvebic put a sign that says "Please Use Other Door" lol 03:22 NakedFury "solicitors and religious people use side door" 03:22 Uberi|Away who says airsoft doesn't penetrate skin!? 03:23 mauvebic thank god i havent had a landline in years because my family never stops bitching about telemarketting and robocalls 03:23 mauvebic fancy that, paying to be harassed lol 03:23 marktraceur NakedFury: Like I'm going to let in religious people. Please. They can't be trusted. 03:23 * marktraceur kids 03:23 mauvebic like paying for cable to watch 15 minutes of commercials and 19 minutes of story 03:23 NakedFury anyone using the side door is to be shot on sight 03:24 mauvebic electrify the handle 03:24 Uberi put chunky peanut butter on it 03:24 marktraceur mauvebic: Something tells me that might be slightly illegal 03:24 NakedFury mauvebic its 44 minutes of shows and the rest commercials. or 22 minutes of shows and rest commercial 03:24 mauvebic only if there are witnesses 03:24 marktraceur Or, you know, a body 03:25 NakedFury place a sign that says handle has current 03:25 mauvebic pig farms 03:25 NakedFury people will touch it 03:25 * marktraceur remembers that Criminal Minds episode 03:25 marktraceur Freaky-ass shit 03:25 * kaeza takes note not to mess with mauvebic 03:25 mauvebic lol 03:25 kaeza :P 03:26 mauvebic well some of my family arent in south america by choice lol 03:26 NakedFury those shows never feature a murderer from out of state, its always crimes of passions 03:26 Uberi or put a bear trap as the door bell, maybe 03:26 Uberi "push here to ring bell" 03:27 mauvebic my father was one of those crooked business fucks from the 90s lol 03:28 VanessaE can someone help me out with the moretrees mod, to tune the intervals and chance values I'm using in the spawning and growing ABMs for the trees? I'm not convinced that I did it right :-) 03:32 mauvebic did you poke RBA? 03:32 VanessaE already did, I guess he's at work now. 03:32 VanessaE or asleep 03:32 mauvebic did you try poking with a blunt object? 03:32 VanessaE I forget his schedule 03:32 Uberi VanessaE: are the tree abms using the same values as the current trees? 03:32 mauvebic lol :p 03:32 * mauvebic bludgeons 03:33 mauvebic guess he's not there 03:33 VanessaE Uberi: no, I toned them down quite sharply some time ago, this is what I was using last in the old mods. 03:33 * Uberi gives mauvebic a pointy stick 03:33 mauvebic im not crazy about full nodes as branches 03:34 Uberi yeah, but smaller facedir nodeboxes that drop sticks are... actually not a bad idea! 03:34 mauvebic use the autoplace code for pipes for branches 03:34 VanessaE Uberi: patches welcome :-) 03:35 * Uberi is trying to do work but reddit 03:35 mauvebic i got star trek and beer distracting me 03:35 NakedFury good distraction 03:35 mauvebic and the other beers keep calling to me 03:35 NakedFury TNG or Voyager? 03:35 mauvebic theyre cold and frightened and its dark in the refrigirator 03:36 mauvebic TNG 03:36 Uberi the irresistable siren song 03:36 leo_rockway TNG <3 03:36 mauvebic its funny how they keep using the same actors as extras for different aliens lol 03:36 leo_rockway we draw the line HERE! 03:37 mauvebic michael dorn has appeared as 3 different klingons lol 03:37 kaeza VanessaE: how are junges generated? 03:37 kaeza jungles* 03:37 VanessaE kaeza: very sloppily :D 03:37 mauvebic odo played a starfleet colonel in star trek 6 03:37 kaeza lol 03:37 mauvebic sisko's daddy was also in star trek 6 playing an admiral 03:37 leo_rockway mauvebic: in TOS, Sarek was previously a Romulan commander... 03:37 VanessaE kaeza: trees grow only near water, and only on grass, and only at low elevations, and only if the body of water is large enough 03:38 VanessaE jungle trees that is. 03:38 mauvebic lwaxana troy: the computer voice: the nurse in TOS 03:38 VanessaE they grow, as NekoGloop predicted, in the same perlin biomes as jungle grass 03:38 mauvebic she died recently (rip) 03:38 Uberi VanessaE: low elevations? what kind of low elevations? 03:38 VanessaE Uberi: -5 to +15. 03:39 VanessaE I might need to tweak that though 03:39 kaeza found one 03:39 kaeza a jungle grasss sapling :D 03:39 kaeza -s 03:39 leo_rockway mauvebic: Martok was also the shapeshifter Laas in DS9... 03:39 VanessaE er, jungle grass sapling? heh 03:39 leo_rockway mauvebic: she died!? v.v 03:39 VanessaE Majel Barrett? 03:39 kaeza s/grass/tree/ 03:39 kaeza lol 03:39 Uberi VanessaE: please do, my sky base isn't the same without a lush forest :) 03:40 mauvebic daughter of the fifth house, holder of the sacred chalice of Rixx and heir to the holy rings of betazed, may she rest in peace :p 03:40 VanessaE Uberi: if you plant jungle tree saplings, they'll grow anywhere. They just won't spawn outside of that elevation range 03:40 Uberi ah, thanks 03:40 leo_rockway mauvebic: wife of Gene... 03:41 mauvebic gene's death really destroyed the flow of new ideas to star trek tho 03:41 leo_rockway yes 03:42 leo_rockway DS9 had too much war and violence. It was a decent show, but it was only ST in name... 03:42 leo_rockway Voyager was plain awful 03:42 leo_rockway I haven't watched Enterprise 03:42 leo_rockway sorry for the OT o.o 03:42 NakedFury they need a new show 03:43 leo_rockway I haven't watched the new movie either. 03:43 VanessaE NakedFury: I wish.. 03:43 leo_rockway there were discussions about a Worf ST 03:43 VanessaE leo_rockway: it was good if you're willing to throw out star trek canon in favor of a new idea. 03:43 kaeza 100% cool & natural: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_579470235.jpg 03:43 NakedFury also they need to not fix all problems with talking and killing the red jacket crew I think 03:44 VanessaE kaeza: weird 03:44 mauvebic any future star trek show should have much less to do with humans and starfleet in general 03:44 Uberi kaeza: I think those overhangs are awesome :) 03:44 mauvebic after 3 shows the hippie bullshit is a little much 03:44 leo_rockway VanessaE: the ending felt so rushed... and they kept showing the guys from the future complaining about the temporal prime directive, yet they never show up in the last episode. 03:44 Uberi adds character to the world 03:45 leo_rockway mauvebic: Captain Worf should be fun... 03:45 mauvebic the ds9 war was actually nice because it had some dark aspects to it 03:45 leo_rockway http://screenrant.com/star-trek-captain-worf-tv-show-michael-dorn/ 03:45 kaeza Uberi: I have a ton of screenshots like these. I love to go into the wild and take photos at interesting land formations. 03:45 mauvebic ive read it 03:46 mauvebic i doubt ittl happen 03:46 mauvebic worf was ok but taken by himself abit stuffy and distant 03:46 kaeza Uberi: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1058897008.png 03:46 leo_rockway worf felt a bit out of place in DS9, to me. 03:46 mauvebic 7 seasons of people trying to get him to open up? thanks but no thanks lol 03:46 Uberi heheh, silly sand 03:47 Uberi the underground lakes and rivers are breathtaking 03:47 mauvebic what they should do is set it 100 or 200 years further into the future 03:47 NakedFury ^ like that idea 03:47 mauvebic they do time travel so much anyhow it might as well be "normal" 03:47 leo_rockway mauvebic: Star Trek: Ferenginar 03:47 leo_rockway o.o 03:48 NakedFury Star Trek: The Republic 03:48 mauvebic they never really showed the borg's end or beginning, so time travelling would be cool to settle that once and for all 03:48 kaeza also, FOREVER ALONE! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1497286901.jpg 03:48 mauvebic some people theorize the borg is actually V'ger from the first movie 03:49 leo_rockway I haven't watched the TOS movies 03:49 kaeza Uberi: and a last one for now: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1538663744.jpg 03:49 mauvebic though the first movie isn't really a movie, it was the first few episodes of a cancelled series put together lol 03:49 mauvebic which is why it goes on forever lol 03:49 NakedFury the borg are like tame Daleks 03:49 leo_rockway they turned it into a movie because of Star Wars 03:49 mauvebic ugh doctor who 03:49 Uberi kaeza: you should make a base out of that 03:49 leo_rockway the borg are like replicators from SG1 03:49 NakedFury doctor who is the eternal hippie 03:49 Uberi on my old world I hollowed out a natural mountain for that 03:50 NekoGloop NakedFury: Because he knows what will be cool ;-) 03:50 leo_rockway and I like what they do with the replicators in SG1 03:50 mauvebic ugh stargate 03:50 mauvebic im canadian and i cant stand that show lol 03:50 NakedFury why! 03:51 NakedFury come on we have few space shows, we got to stick together here 03:51 NakedFury safe the shows from cancellation 03:51 mauvebic babylon 5 was even more atrocious 03:51 NakedFury save 03:51 kaeza Uberi: it's too small to be useful 03:51 mauvebic the ridiculous hairdos 03:51 mauvebic the bad cgi 03:51 OldCoder Hi 03:51 kaeza it's like 5x10 03:51 NakedFury I loved farscape 03:52 kaeza hi OldCoder 03:52 NekoGloop babylon 5 was awesome 03:52 OldCoder Yep 03:52 mauvebic with that blue skank? no wonder they played that early in the 'evening lol 03:52 NekoGloop inb4 hate 03:52 OldCoder I have been in meetings 03:52 OldCoder and am going out now 03:52 OldCoder But... 03:52 OldCoder WTF was Gambit doing here? 03:52 Uberi hey OldCoder 03:52 OldCoder Gambit, Are you here? 03:52 OldCoder Uberi, Hi! 03:52 kaeza :o 03:52 Gambit OldCoder: Hey. 03:52 OldCoder Hi! 03:52 OldCoder Let's PM 03:52 Uberi OldCoder: we were discussing the spam issue in #minecraft 03:52 Uberi sure 03:53 OldCoder Uberi, I will PM with Gambit and see what is up 03:53 NekoGloop Ah, here's the one Gambit can have intelligent conversation. 03:53 OldCoder Gambit is AFK 03:53 OldCoder Let me scroll up and look at this more closely 03:53 OldCoder *scroll* 03:54 Gambit semi-AFK 03:54 mauvebic basically one of our guys spammed their channel again 03:54 NekoGloop Gambit is always afk :P 03:54 NakedFury someone went to troll and mess in minecrafts channel 03:54 Gambit OldCoder: Basically the random spam in #minecraft continues, and one of us finally had the brilliant idea reaching out to you all :) 03:54 Gambit (It was me! :o) 03:54 Uberi o/ 03:54 OldCoder Gambit, Good. But do you remember what happened... 03:55 OldCoder Gambit, the last time I made somebody from here apologize to your channel? You REDACTED banned me! 03:55 OldCoder O_o 03:55 * OldCoder shrugs 03:55 OldCoder Let me review further... Peaceful relations are good 03:55 NekoGloop lol, nice censor. 03:55 OldCoder Seriously, that was annoying 03:55 OldCoder Gambit, Hang on. I am reading up for a minute. 03:55 mauvebic perhaps we could install a red phone in celeron55's and notch's residences? 03:56 Uberi heheheh 03:56 kaeza lolol 03:56 Gambit OldCoder: Mortvert got a bit trigger happy. 03:56 OldCoder Indeed D: 03:56 OldCoder But we wish 03:56 OldCoder Peace and Harmony 03:56 Gambit He's like our grumpy old man. 03:56 OldCoder Teach All the World to Sing 03:56 OldCoder etc. 03:56 OldCoder Hold on 03:56 NekoGloop Gambit: Ya think? Ever since i happened in the channel ;) 03:56 OldCoder To save you time, let me read up 03:56 Uberi Gambit: can't go too far without your own grumpy old man 03:56 mauvebic dont worry gambit, we've already threatened to chemically castrate whoever misbehaves 03:57 Uberi OldCoder: except the deaf and the mute, those guys can just watch 03:57 NakedFury this ridiculous "raids" from minetest fanatics have to end 03:57 mauvebic minetest children 03:57 OldCoder Is this basically about Kacey? 03:57 OldCoder No actual war with 1000s of casualities 03:57 Uberi nah, kacey's example was relatively tame 03:57 NekoGloop kaeza was the one doing it :P 03:57 OldCoder Bodies piling up? 03:57 OldCoder kaeza? He's pretty mild mannered here 03:57 kaeza ...me? 03:57 mauvebic no we disposed of those 03:57 Uberi apparently landmine was there too, OldCoder 03:57 Gambit That was the most recent one, but not that bad. 03:57 OldCoder Heh 03:58 mauvebic well landmine we can't do anything about 03:58 OldCoder LM is a force of nature 03:58 mauvebic unless one of you wants to drive him out into the country? 03:58 NekoGloop Gambit: Well seeing as i cant even *join* #minecraft, what went down? 03:58 Uberi I don't have a car, mauvebic 03:58 mauvebic i let the chauffeur have the rolls :( 03:58 OldCoder Sorry, Gambit... for that one you're on your own. But we'll talk to the others 03:58 OldCoder Gambit, what's the deal though with banning all nicks that even have minetest in the name? 03:59 OldCoder That seems a bit... 03:59 OldCoder Hmm 03:59 OldCoder Nuts :-) 03:59 mauvebic its probably a ban on advertising 03:59 Gambit That was a proposed solution. 03:59 Uberi probably as a response to the spamming 03:59 OldCoder I figured 03:59 Gambit It hasn't been implemented as far as I know. 03:59 OldCoder But it happened a week or two back 03:59 Uberi a preemptive strike, so to speak 03:59 OldCoder John of Minetest 03:59 OldCoder said it was to target him 03:59 OldCoder Claimed he had not done anything 03:59 mauvebic well oldcoder, people have been doing this on/off for a while now 03:59 OldCoder But let's move on 03:59 OldCoder mauvebic, all right 03:59 mauvebic at least a year 03:59 OldCoder Down to brass tacks... 03:59 OldCoder Put aside LM 03:59 OldCoder Is the other issue Kacey? 04:00 Gambit If we did it, it'd be just like any other spam filter. 04:00 OldCoder Who I see called himself minetesttroll D: 04:00 OldCoder Is the other issue Kacey? 04:00 Uberi OldCoder: I really doubt kacey will be a problem 04:00 mauvebic no just tell her to behave 04:00 OldCoder Well, aside from LM, what is the primary issue today? 04:00 OldCoder Her? 04:00 Gambit Like we'd ban *viagra*!@* 04:00 mauvebic him? 04:00 Gambit If that were a problem. 04:00 mauvebic it? 04:00 OldCoder I believe Kacey is a he 04:00 Uberi OldCoder: well mainly to get rid of the weekly spammings of #minecraft 04:00 OldCoder Gambit, who or what was the issue today? 04:00 OldCoder Aside from LM? 04:01 OldCoder Weekly I'd not heard of 04:01 OldCoder That will be looked at next 04:01 OldCoder But was there an issue today? 04:01 NekoGloop Maybe you should give him a chance to type... 04:01 Gambit Kacey came in and the first thing out of their mouth was "Hey you know what's better than Minecraft?" 04:01 OldCoder All right 04:01 OldCoder So it was Kacey 04:01 mauvebic destroy her 04:01 OldCoder Say, Kacey, suppose you could chill a bit? 04:01 mauvebic him 04:01 Gambit I think they've been thoroughly told off at this point. :) 04:02 OldCoder Gambit, Who has? 04:02 Gambit Kacey. 04:02 OldCoder Then you are satisfied for now? 04:02 OldCoder LM aside? 04:02 OldCoder If there are weekly raids 04:02 mauvebic but... what about the Romulans? 04:02 Gambit kaeza was also in there and said some things that implied this is organized :| 04:02 OldCoder Uh huh 04:02 Uberi I'd say we reached a good agreement, yes 04:02 kaeza Gambit: that's not true 04:02 OldCoder Gambit, I know kaeza and don't consider him part of that 04:02 OldCoder There is no agreement yet 04:02 OldCoder But there is an expression of good will 04:02 OldCoder Peace on Earth etc. 04:03 NekoGloop Gambit: While i dont generally follow this, a few of them do seem to be "tagteaming" your channel, so to speak. 04:03 OldCoder But there WILL be a MT Wikipedia article D: 04:03 Gambit 01-09 21:09:22| some of us (myself *NOT* included) are trolling #minecraft because you ban us for the mere action of mentioning Minetest. Why can't we get along? We *don't* ban those who mention MC! We joke a bit, yes, but are more or less like "meh. If you like it, play it.". 04:03 Uberi OldCoder: definitely! 04:03 OldCoder Gambit, that seems fair 04:03 OldCoder Gambit, see that's the deal... 04:03 OldCoder Listen please... 04:03 OldCoder Gambit, In your channel, two of us just MENTIONED a kid 04:03 OldCoder who was admittedly a handful 04:03 OldCoder He was the one who came there 04:03 OldCoder and said 04:03 OldCoder "Gay Bitches!" 04:03 OldCoder "Gay Bitches!" 04:03 OldCoder "Gay Bitches!" 04:04 OldCoder Not much of a way to make friends O_o 04:04 OldCoder We mentioned we knew him 04:04 OldCoder And your guy did a mass ban 04:04 OldCoder More than one of you 04:04 OldCoder Is Trigger Finger Itchy 04:04 NekoGloop Gah, i hate it when my screen randomly increases brightness. 04:04 Gambit Well you have to consider it from our side. 04:04 OldCoder Uh huh 04:04 Gambit That's *all* we see of the Minetest community. 04:04 OldCoder Go on 04:04 Gambit Is those people. 04:04 OldCoder Yeah... Look at the part you just quoted 04:04 Uberi NekoGloop: I finally figured out it was because of ambient light auto adjust 04:04 OldCoder If that was kaeza 04:04 OldCoder You are conflating kaeza with the attackers 04:05 OldCoder Because he commented 04:05 OldCoder And was possibly trying to build understanding 04:05 OldCoder Not a good start 04:05 OldCoder If there are random attacks 04:05 OldCoder Get us more information 04:05 OldCoder And discussions will be held here 04:05 OldCoder But again for LM you are on your own 04:05 OldCoder 04:05 NekoGloop Can we all just agree to talk about minecraft in #minecraft and minetest in #minetest (or other minetest channels) 04:05 OldCoder Gambit, do these remarks settle the matter for today? 04:05 Gambit The use of plural pronouns there was troubling. 04:06 OldCoder Gambit, where? 04:06 Gambit OldCoder: yeah everything is fine for now 04:06 OldCoder All right 04:06 Uberi it's the royal "we", Gambit :P 04:06 Gambit Heh 04:06 mauvebic dont i feel like a queen 04:06 OldCoder Kacey seems to have left 04:06 OldCoder or renicked 04:06 Uberi it's a habit I find myself slipping into as well 04:06 OldCoder Gambit, feel free to chill 04:06 NekoGloop Gambit == #minecraft's OldCoder ;-) 04:06 OldCoder Don't expect me to bring people to apologize again though 04:06 OldCoder Unless you promise I won't be banned for doing so 04:06 OldCoder Seriously 04:07 OldCoder Gambit, I'd offer you virtual cake now 04:07 OldCoder But others here are better than that 04:07 * OldCoder offers Gambit virtual cake anywayh 04:07 Gambit there were a bunch of minetest ops hanging out in there shortly after I came over here; we had a big talk 04:07 OldCoder It's better than all these kittens 04:07 OldCoder Did the talk help? 04:07 NekoGloop Heh :3 04:07 Gambit yeah I dunno why we didn't think of coming to you guys sooner 04:07 Gambit Probably again the perception problem. 04:07 OldCoder Gambit, Mark T is a good person 04:08 OldCoder Gambit, Not everybody here is 14 years old you know 04:08 Gambit When 100% of the minetest users we see are spammers, that's the picture that begins to form. 04:08 OldCoder Uh huh 04:08 NekoGloop Now... Can i be unbanned in #minecraft :-( 04:08 OldCoder Well, now you know 04:08 mauvebic ive been around since 1485 04:08 Gambit NekoGloop: I asked about your ban because I didn't remember it. 04:08 OldCoder And Knowing is half the battle :P 04:08 Gambit Apparently it was for "OS warring" 04:08 OldCoder Heh 04:08 * OldCoder laughs 04:08 OldCoder On the bright side, Gambit... 04:08 NekoGloop Yep, that would be me. Just ask around ;-) 04:08 Uberi OS warring is still something unresolved here 04:08 OldCoder One of you said most bans are pretty temporary 04:08 OldCoder Is that true? 04:09 Gambit Probably one of the typical "Drop this topic now because I said so." times. 04:09 Gambit OldCoder: We frequently have to clear our ban list 04:09 Gambit It fills up with spammers from various things. 04:09 NekoGloop Is frequently every 6 months or so 04:09 Gambit Minetest, terraria, people that just hate minecraft 04:09 Gambit Apparently there's a max size to the ban list. 04:09 NekoGloop Wait you guys seriously get terraria douches? 04:09 OldCoder NekoGloop, I was told it was much more frequent 04:09 Gambit And we hit it constantly. 04:09 Gambit NekoGloop: The terraria spammers are much more sophistocated. 04:10 Gambit They have bot networks. 04:10 Gambit *sophisticated 04:10 OldCoder Uh... Why? 04:10 NekoGloop Heh. 04:10 OldCoder Why go after MC to that extent? 04:10 mauvebic some of our people are developing bots too, with nuclear-tipped bot-heads 04:10 Gambit Like they'll come in 2 dozen at a time and spam rapid fire until they get klined. 04:10 OldCoder Heh 04:10 Uberi terraria and MC complement each other nicely 04:10 OldCoder If so 04:10 OldCoder Why the apparent battle to the death? 04:10 * OldCoder shrugs 04:11 Uberi OldCoder: why are there holy wars over text editors? 04:11 OldCoder Gambit, maybe you should hang out *here* more 04:11 NakedFury terrari fans envy us for continued development and the third dimension 04:11 NakedFury terraria 04:11 Gambit Well my theory might offend a lot of people, but: 04:11 OldCoder Uberi, why... because text editors are holy of course 04:11 Uberi NakedFury: totally, our gameplay adds a whole new dimension to it! :P 04:11 Gambit The Minecraft community is already shitty. 04:11 mauvebic howcome? 04:11 OldCoder Gambit, Odd thing to say 04:11 Gambit Now you throw in people that want Minecraft, but can't afford it. 04:11 Gambit And FSF zealots. 04:11 OldCoder Hm? 04:11 Uberi Gambit: I would disagree with you there 04:11 mauvebic i can afford it, i just like beer better 04:11 OldCoder mauvebic, I really like you :-) 04:12 OldCoder You've made me laugh pretty often 04:12 Gambit The Minecraft forums are a shithole. 04:12 OldCoder Gambit, you are an op there 04:12 Gambit Something to do with this genre. 04:12 OldCoder Shouldn't you be saying, like... 04:12 OldCoder "Our forums are grand and marvelous" ? 04:12 Uberi Gambit: like every community, it's got its good places, and the Detroit places 04:12 OldCoder That's blunt 04:12 NekoGloop But true. 04:12 OldCoder Yep 04:12 Gambit OldCoder: #minecraft is a very small, well moderated chunk of the minecraft community 04:13 OldCoder Ah 04:13 OldCoder O.K. 04:13 OldCoder Possibly too moderated 04:13 Gambit The official channel is on espernet 04:13 Gambit And it's a shithole. 04:13 NakedFury IT IS 04:13 OldCoder Oh? 04:13 Uberi Gambit: there's an official MC channel!? 04:13 NekoGloop that channel should be called #off-topic xD 04:13 NakedFury god its always offtopic disccusions and crap 04:13 * leo_rockway doesn't now terraria... 04:13 OldCoder leo_rockway, IIRC it is a Flatland Minecraft 04:13 Uberi leo_rockway: it is well worth the price 04:13 NekoGloop I mean, seriously, AN MC DEV HANGS OUT IN THE UNOFFICIAL ONE. 04:13 OldCoder Gambit, why don't you hang out here more often? 04:14 Uberi if you want to get a feel for the genre first, KAG is free to play, leo_rockway 04:14 Gambit I don't play Minetest. 04:14 OldCoder Gambit, No... 04:14 Gambit I will some day probably when it's more mature. 04:14 OldCoder as an ambassador 04:14 Gambit As software I mean. 04:14 OldCoder Gambit, My worlds are pretty good :-) 04:14 leo_rockway Uberi: I'm not a gamer. I'm also an FSF zealot. 04:14 Uberi we'll pay you in kittens 04:14 leo_rockway but thanks 04:14 OldCoder Guess how many worlds I run now 04:14 mauvebic wasn't notch planning on opensourcing MC at some point? 04:14 Gambit It's just not that appealing right now. 04:14 VanessaE Gambit: actually, it's gotten pretty good already. 04:14 Uberi leo_rockway: fair enough :) 04:14 Uberi mauvebic: jeb overturned it later 04:15 NekoGloop Gambit: Just, you need a good selection of mods, that's all ;) 04:15 Uberi mauvebic: "no plans to do so", etc., etc. 04:15 OldCoder Gambit, we offer you the role of ambassador 04:15 leo_rockway mauvebic: IIRC, he said he would when it was no longer popular... 04:15 Uberi yes, I might be a bit biased but Mesecons is superior to redstone in quite a few ways 04:15 OldCoder Gambit, I have an errand to run. Let's leave it at this... 04:15 Gambit VanessaE: I check up on it once in a while. Maybe I will again this weekend. :) 04:15 Uberi the Mesecons microcontrollers have no redstone equivalent, unfortunately 04:16 Gambit Like, as you can tell by my cloak, I love FOSS. :) 04:16 mauvebic you too, have a cloaking device? 04:16 NekoGloop Gambit: Oh and you would love mesecons. 04:16 mauvebic you and i, we could rule cardassia 04:16 Uberi Gambit: (mesecons is the equivalent of redstone for MT, fyi) 04:16 NekoGloop Gambit: Also you should try to see if you can contribute anything. Even textures. As you can see, the defaults are shit ;-) 04:16 leo_rockway mauvebic: treaty of algeron! 04:17 OldCoder Gambit, 1. You're offered an embassy here. 2. If Kacey trolls again we'll look into discipline. 3. Weekly raids will be discussed if they continue. 4. Try my 19 MT worlds :-) 5. We do plan to have a MT Wikipedia article. 04:17 OldCoder Gambit, that is my summary. We good here? 04:17 NekoGloop ... 19... o.O 04:17 OldCoder I need one more 04:17 Gambit Yeah, like I said, we talked things through a while ago. 04:17 mauvebic the ambassadorial post also includes the use of comfort women 04:17 Gambit I'm just chilling out in here. 04:17 OldCoder Gambit, fine 04:18 kaeza OldCoder: I was about to discuss your #20 world 04:18 OldCoder Dine on wine toe the line MT is fine 04:18 OldCoder kaeza, go on 04:18 * VanessaE steps back a bit, not to be confused with one of said "comfort" women. 04:18 NekoGloop In other words he's too lazy to /part. Which is fine with me ;) 04:18 Gambit I miss cia.vc :( 04:18 Uberi Gambit: you may receive your kittens from NekoGloop 04:18 Uberi there is a daily quota of 2 04:18 * OldCoder gives his pile of kittens to Gambit as a gesture of good will 04:18 VanessaE Gambit: on receipt of said kittens, you may at your leisure place them in OldCoder's pile. 04:18 kaeza OldCoder: may I PM? 04:18 OldCoder VanessaE, too late! :P 04:18 mauvebic well if no one else volunteers i suppose i could be gambit's comfort woman? 04:19 OldCoder They are Gambit's responsibility now 04:19 OldCoder kaeza, sure 04:19 NekoGloop Gambit: The kittens are an inside joke of sorts. 04:19 VanessaE OldCoder: we'll start a NEW pile then :-) 04:19 leo_rockway * [new branch] jungleanddungeons -> origin/jungleanddungeons 04:19 leo_rockway o.o 04:19 VanessaE (or would that be a mew pile?) 04:19 OldCoder VanessaE, It will take a 04:19 Uberi :O 04:19 * OldCoder laughs 04:19 OldCoder Yes 04:19 OldCoder A Mew Pile 04:19 OldCoder AMewsing VanessaE 04:19 VanessaE haha 04:19 OldCoder You are Abusing but AMewsing 04:19 VanessaE I am not! :) 04:20 Gambit NekoGloop: I'll ask about undoing your ban this weekend 04:20 NekoGloop Currently the espernet minecraft channel is talking about computer science degrees. 04:20 Gambit Good night. 04:20 NekoGloop At least they are slightly ontopic. 04:20 OldCoder Gambit, we shall miss you 04:21 OldCoder You are not nearly 04:21 OldCoder Like the typical D: op over there 04:21 OldCoder No offense 04:21 Gambit There's a chillax old guard. 04:21 OldCoder Oh? 04:21 OldCoder What does chillax mean? 04:21 OldCoder They ice the blades 04:21 Gambit And there's overzealous newbies. 04:21 OldCoder Before burying them in people? 04:21 OldCoder Oh 04:22 OldCoder Well you have your invite for an embassy here 04:22 OldCoder I g2g being paged 04:22 OldCoder o/ 04:22 Gambit But like I said, the grumpyness didn't happen spontaneously. 04:22 NekoGloop Also say hello to moltenbot, the link-grepping bot and Minetest-tan, the everything else bot, Gambit. :3 04:23 NekoGloop Hello Minetest-tan! 04:23 NekoGloop ... Hm, he must have disabled that. 04:23 Gambit NekoGloop: It's name is not as sexy as janebot. pfft 04:23 NekoGloop Gambit: Indeed. 04:23 Gambit (Say, ya'll need tweet reports? ;) ) 04:24 NekoGloop Maybe if celeron *used* his twitter account xD 04:25 Gambit Interestingly I caught a lot of shit over kicking Kacey at first. 04:25 Gambit But they came back and proved me right. :\ 04:25 kaeza !tw celeron55 04:25 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/celeron55?1357791932.68 (@celeron55) 04:25 kaeza ? 04:25 kaeza !tw lkaezadl3 04:25 Minetest-tan @BoldCoder have found an old photo I took about two years ago. It needs a few retouches, but I hope you'll like it. pic.twitter.com/5ecWBDay (@lkaezadl3) 04:25 kaeza ^_^ 04:26 NekoGloop Huh, i thought he had one 04:26 NekoGloop Maybe it's under a different name, idk. 04:26 Uberi maybe c55? 04:26 kaeza !tw c55 04:27 Minetest-tan trying to figure out the purpose (@c55) 04:27 kaeza O_o 04:27 NekoGloop Is that even an allowed name... 04:27 NekoGloop why not actually try his *name* 04:27 kaeza !tw perttuahola 04:27 Minetest-tan Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/perttuahola?1357792052.4 (@perttuahola) 04:27 NekoGloop ... God you're hopeless. 04:28 NekoGloop !g Perttu Aloha Twitter 04:28 Minetest-tan NekoGloop: http://www.wunderkraut.com/blog/drupal-vs-episerver-vs-sharepoint/2011-10-21 04:28 kaeza O_o 04:28 NekoGloop Well that is most definitely not what i'm looking for. 04:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: you were satying? :-) 04:28 VanessaE saying* 04:28 NekoGloop I coulda sworn he had a twitter account. 04:28 sokomine fine that there are new jungletrees! 04:28 kaeza VanessaE: you were saying* ? 04:28 kaeza lol 04:29 VanessaE eh shaddup :-) 04:29 NekoGloop I would show off moltenbot as well except ipv6 users are ignored by it, Gambit. 04:29 kaeza http://example.com 04:29 kaeza ? 04:29 Gambit Janebot had that bug for a little while. The hostmask regex was missing a colon. 04:30 NekoGloop Heh. 04:30 NekoGloop Iqual would fix it except that he knows that i only know because of my ipad ;-) 04:30 NekoGloop People here hate apple *almost* as much as microsoft. 04:31 NekoGloop And, ahem, that would be why i hate this ipad. 04:31 Gambit Get yourself an unaffiliated cloak. 04:31 NekoGloop On an ipad? 04:31 NekoGloop ;-) 04:31 Gambit You just have to be logged into your nickserv account. 04:31 Gambit Has nothing to do with your client. 04:32 NekoGloop Heh, i'd have to have one. 04:32 Uberi whoa it's late 04:33 kaeza /msg nickserv ghost NekoGloop 04:33 kaeza ^_^ 04:33 NekoGloop Hah. 04:34 kaeza something like an unpriviledged /kick 04:34 Gambit Now some troll will steal your nick 04:35 NekoGloop_ ^_^ 04:35 kaeza O_o 04:36 kaeza IPv4 lol 04:36 Gambit :\ 04:36 NekoGloop Well that failed 04:36 NekoGloop Gambit: Your logic is broken 04:36 Gambit Not really kaeza 04:36 NekoGloop The weird thing is i have to /whois myself 04:36 kaeza hm? 04:38 Gambit My mistake. 04:38 Gambit been looking at too many hostnames tonight :< 04:38 kaeza np 04:39 kaeza O_o ^^ 04:39 NekoGloop so care to explain how you actually get the unaffiliated cloak? 04:39 Gambit Wow nikondork. 04:39 Gambit NekoGloop: register a nickserv account 04:39 Gambit and then ask in #freenode 04:39 NekoGloop i did. 04:39 NekoGloop Ah. 04:39 NekoGloop That step woulda been useful ;-) 04:42 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Gambit's head again for the heck of it 04:42 NekoGloop Also, what did nikon do? 04:42 Gambit They're starting to fall off. 04:42 NekoGloop Gambit: Nah, they're good at holding on :-3 04:42 Gambit NekoGloop: His part message was less than polite, but apparently it wasn't manual. 04:43 NekoGloop I see 04:43 NekoGloop I have join and part messages turned off 04:43 NekoGloop Another network i am on is linked directly to a game, and gets >50 joins per second. 04:48 NekoGloop And, now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFgB_KS-wg 04:48 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: World's End Dancehall (English Cover)??ham + JubyPhonic P? - YouTube 04:48 NekoGloop Well at least the ipv4 makes that part work. 04:50 NakedFury http://kotaku.com/5974684/you-havent-seen-rapture-until-youve-seen-in-recreated-with-blocks?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow 04:50 moltenbot NakedFury's link: You Haven't Seen Rapture Until You've Seen In Recreated With Blocks 04:50 NekoGloop >kotaku 04:50 NekoGloop That rings a bell. 04:50 NakedFury from bioshock 04:50 NekoGloop Oh wait 04:50 NekoGloop Take a k off, i know that word. 04:52 mauvebic this would be a cool world: http://adventurersbg.info/walkthroughs/myst2/index_files/image076.jpg 04:52 VanessaE OldCoder: an update for my world/game/etc is available at your leisure. 04:52 NekoGloop mauvebic: myst... mystcraft *cough* what? :-) 04:53 mauvebic a pink sky requires cpp changes (very basic ones) 04:53 mauvebic the rock formations either with my terrain guns or some on generated routine 04:56 * NekoGloop puts a kitten in Gambit's lap 04:57 NakedFury mauvebic the idea of worlds inside books would be awesome 04:58 NakedFury a server could have 1 cenntral hub world and from there you join others through books or whatever way you want 04:58 NekoGloop The idea of secondary worlds would be awesome. 04:59 NekoGloop Seeing as minetest singleplayer == minecraft >1.3.2 singleplayer... 04:59 NekoGloop ... I forgot where i was going with that. 04:59 mauvebic worlds inside books? need portals for that 05:00 VanessaE time for bed. night all 05:01 NakedFury enter server and you enter Lobby World. Say it is in the shape of a big museum. you can explore it and open or read some of the books that teleport you or log you into that worlds server 05:14 kaeza NekoGloop: \o/ 05:14 NekoGloop NakedFury: In theory this can be done currently, with mesecons and command blocks. 05:15 kaeza NakedFury: RBA was working on portals between worlds 05:15 NekoGloop Simply design each area seperately. 05:15 kaeza but got busy with the new trees 05:16 Exio [01:53:06] a pink sky requires cpp changes (very basic ones) < what file? :P 05:16 mauvebic wild stab in the dark... sky.cpp? 05:16 Exio aw 05:16 Exio i didn't check 05:16 * Exio kills Exio 05:17 * mauvebic disposes of the witnesses 05:17 * kaeza revives Exio and kills him again ad-infinitum 05:17 NakedFury can we do something like this: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiverse-core/ 05:17 moltenbot NakedFury's link: 05:18 NakedFury multiple worlds on 1 server 05:18 Exio kaeza: D: 05:19 Exio NakedFury++, the idea of multiworlds is awesome 05:20 NakedFury mutliple worlds on same server coupled with different settings for land generation for each worlds would make mauvebics mystcraft idea possible 05:26 Oblivion1500 that would be epic 05:32 NekoGloop It feels like it should be later... 05:33 Oblivion1500 why? 05:33 NekoGloop Just like, it seems like more time has passed than this. 05:33 NekoGloop Dont you agree? 05:35 Oblivion1500 i think it would be something simple.. 05:36 Oblivion1500 in the process we can make is so we can save the path of other worlds on our client 05:36 Oblivion1500 so we can simple change 05:36 Oblivion1500 dont you agree? 05:37 NakedFury some servers have multiple worlds for Creative, PVP, and lets say PVE modes 05:37 NakedFury switching from one to the other is easy. items cant pass from 1 world to the other 05:37 Oblivion1500 then they can telly into another world and it changes all of that 05:38 OldCoder Hi 05:38 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 05:38 Oblivion1500 i didnt catch a fucking thing 05:38 NakedFury a server I played in had like 10 worlds and was using a land generation plugin to make them all different 05:39 NekoGloop survival games is an example. 05:39 Oblivion1500 then just do a log in log out function 05:39 Oblivion1500 all in one step through the portal 05:40 Oblivion1500 it might take a wile but its pretty cool 05:42 NakedFury you could do 1 server and have multiple worlds with different modes: Creative, PvP, normal survival, some game mode, exploration(no block destroying) 06:00 kaeza night everyone! off to bed :) 06:00 Exio night kaeza! 06:01 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Exio's head 06:02 Exio poor kitten 06:18 * NekoGloop puts the box of kittens down 06:26 thexyz >If you could put some pressure on them to behave, we'd really appreciate it. 06:26 thexyz BEHAVE YOU SHITBAGS 06:26 thexyz was that good enough? 06:32 NekoGloop no. 06:34 OldCoder thexyz, well at least it is unambiguous 06:34 OldCoder lighter approach might be sensible 06:56 NekoGloop Meow. 07:00 thexyz By the way, Gambit, can you post some logs to prove your statement? 07:00 NekoGloop He's asleep by now. 07:02 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62991#p62991 => mac rant ahoy 07:02 moltenbot Calinou's link: [Poll | Finished] Open/Close Doors (Page 2) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 07:05 NekoGloop Calinou: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63005#p63005 07:05 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: [Poll | Finished] Open/Close Doors (Page 2) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 07:08 Calinou NekoGloop: removed the quote, no need to quote the whole post, that just makes everything longer ;) 07:08 NekoGloop That was the point :D 07:08 Calinou as long as people know who you are replying to it's fine 07:13 NekoGloop I *wanted* to make everything longer though ;-) 07:19 Oblivion1500 Ohh damn sorry 07:31 NekoGloop EsperNet #minecraft is so fucking random 07:31 Calinou of course it is 07:31 NekoGloop I mean, more so than the one here 07:31 NekoGloop Which is more so than #minetest 07:32 NekoGloop And we all know how random we are. 07:35 NekoGloop Currently everyone has "lil" tagged on the front of their name... 08:21 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=62998#p62998 => gitorious... lol :D 08:21 moltenbot Calinou's link: Pixelous (formerly Menche's 4x4) (Page 1) - Texture Packs - Minetest Forums 12:50 kaeza morning all 14:22 RealBadAngel hi 14:29 kaeza hi 15:10 kaeza forums down again? 16:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 16:21 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam 16:28 Calinou teh forums are down 16:28 * Calinou bets zlatan didn't like the football topic 16:28 Calinou noone talked about him 16:29 Calinou so he zlatanned the server box 16:34 rubenwardy hi all 16:34 rubenwardy forum down? 16:34 PilzAdam yep 16:34 Menche yeah 16:35 Menche repeatedly refreshing the forum page, hoping for it to come back 16:35 Menche suppose im addicted 16:36 PilzAdam we all are ;-) 16:39 rubenwardy tell me when it does 16:44 celeron55 here's something to vote for the internets: http://kampanja.mcdonalds.fi/myburger/#burgers/604 16:44 moltenbot celeron55's link: McDonalds MyBurger 16:44 celeron55 ylilauta is the largest finnish imageboard 8), "äänestä" = "vote" 16:45 rubenwardy per.. / lah ? 16:45 rubenwardy on vote dialog 16:45 Calinou s/ylilauta/4chan 16:45 celeron55 the red one 16:46 celeron55 "lähetä" = "submit" 16:46 Calinou celeron55: why should we do that :P 16:46 celeron55 Calinou: ehm? 4chan is english 16:47 celeron55 because unnecessarily influencing public votings with half-jokes is part of what the internet is for 16:47 Menche darn, doesn't display right in google translate 16:47 Menche and google translate was set to translate into latin for some reason 16:56 rubenwardy is it possible to make an item look like water, but with out the flow bit? 16:56 sokomine rubenwardy: that would be helpful sometimes. i havn't found a way yet :-( 16:56 rubenwardy damn 16:57 rubenwardy I will have to use opaque water 16:58 * Jordach hates haircuts 16:59 Zetetic Me too, that's why I have long hair 17:00 Jordach minetest.net DEAD AGAIN 17:06 rubenwardy is there a problem with this: 17:06 rubenwardy for a=1, 11, step do 17:06 rubenwardy (lua) 17:08 rubenwardy 17:07:35: ERROR[main]: ...rew/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/waterplus/init.lua:1: 'for' step must be a number 17:08 PilzAdam have you defined step before? 17:08 PilzAdam local step = 1 17:08 rubenwardy no 17:08 rubenwardy does not say you need to: http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/lua/lualoop.htm#_Numeric_For_Statements 17:08 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Lua Looping 17:08 rubenwardy what is the correct code? 17:08 PilzAdam for a=1,11 do 17:09 PilzAdam for a=1,11,5 do 17:09 rubenwardy words 17:09 rubenwardy * works 17:09 PilzAdam sure 17:12 rubenwardy anything wrong here? http://pastebin.com/WECSQmZx 17:12 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Lua] nodebox = { type="fixed", nodebox={ {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,(0.5/10)*a,0.5}, - Pastebin.com 17:13 PilzAdam yea 17:13 PilzAdam "fixed =" not "nodebox =" 17:13 PilzAdam and its node_box not nodebox 17:13 markveidemanis Minetest forums down? 17:13 PilzAdam markveidemanis, yep 17:13 markveidemanis Again?! 17:18 rubenwardy is {-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.1,0.5}, a correct box? 17:18 PilzAdam yep 17:20 NekoGloop miau 17:21 rubenwardy the above box was surposed to look similar to a slab 17:21 NekoGloop forums being derp? 17:22 Jordach NekoGloop, yup 17:22 Jordach as usual 17:23 NekoGloop le gasp, Menche *did* something 17:23 rubenwardy just realised that I forgot drawtype="nodebox", 17:23 Jordach huh? 17:24 markveidemanis == /CLEAR Unknown command 17:25 rubenwardy playing with nodeboxes 17:25 markveidemanis also, who can help me build a good Prison fr my server? 17:25 markveidemanis Minecraft Dungeon like 17:25 NekoGloop dude, it's "/clear" 17:25 markveidemanis Try it in caps 17:26 sokomine hm. make the griefers build a prison cell. if they did build a good one they get free again :-) 17:26 markveidemanis im just proving to myself im a terrible architect... 17:26 markveidemanis Nah.. 17:26 Zeg9 markveidemanis: /part ]]execute/clear 17:26 markveidemanis Im gonna build out of unkreakable blocks 17:26 Zeg9 (old joke not working anymore) 17:27 markveidemanis and im not giving them to griefers: 17:27 markveidemanis - 17:27 markveidemanis ) 17:27 sokomine :-) 17:27 markveidemanis Yep 17:27 markveidemanis Help... 17:27 markveidemanis Someone 17:28 markveidemanis Hi 17:28 markveidemanis Help me build a prison 17:28 NekoGloop no 17:29 Zeg9 I guess he didn't wanna help you 17:29 markveidemanis Who 17:29 markveidemanis Can you? 17:29 rubenwardy what is "group:groupname" 17:30 rubenwardy is it a selected in groups{...} 17:35 rubenwardy is "node" in the function a string/text? http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_abm 17:37 PilzAdam node 17:37 PilzAdam *no 17:37 rubenwardy how to get the name? 17:37 rubenwardy node.name? 17:37 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/node 17:37 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: node - Minetest Developer Wiki 17:40 rubenwardy brb 17:43 markveidemanis Help Me Build A Prison! 17:43 markveidemanis SOMEONE! 17:45 sema4 markveidemanis: google for prison pictures and info, generate ideas, place blocks in appropriate arrangements. 17:57 Obiewan1111 Is the Minetest site down? 17:58 PilzAdam yep 17:58 Obiewan1111 Is there a reason? 18:01 Jordach celeron55, fix yer damn vps 18:08 * rubenwardy is working on a finite water mod 18:10 mauvebic how would that work? 18:10 mauvebic esp with flowing and source nodes 18:10 rubenwardy lots of water nodeboxes 18:13 NakedFury this water would be nice: http://www.moddb.com/games/liquid-cubed 18:13 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Liquid Cubed Windows game - Mod DB 18:13 mauvebic how many nodeboxes? with pipeworks i already have in the neighbourhood of 500 defined nodes in all 18:14 kaeza minetest.net still down? 18:14 rubenwardy 20 atm, but it can be increased 18:14 mauvebic i dont even know if the two will be compatible yet tho 18:14 rubenwardy local finite_water_steps=20 18:14 rubenwardy they probably will not 18:14 Oblivion1500 kaeza:yes 18:15 kaeza dang 18:15 mauvebic yeah pipeworks looks for liquid and flowingliquid drawtypes 18:15 rubenwardy mine is nodebox drawtype 18:15 Oblivion1500 anyone have a reason or is it just acting up? 18:17 rubenwardy what is != in lua? 18:17 rubenwardy ~= 18:19 mauvebic wet cement: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3716704095 18:19 mauvebic dry: http://www.zimg.eu/i/169617068 18:20 rubenwardy wow 18:21 NakedFury thats nice 18:21 NakedFury is it slow spreading? 18:21 mauvebic im having trouble figuring out the right viscosity level but it takes a few intervals to dry completely 18:22 mauvebic and its only the flowing's that dry bcuz if the source dried you'd have a mess lol 18:24 Jordach thexyz, you really need to host minetest.net 18:24 mauvebic though if i did an air check on the spigot i could let the source dry too 18:26 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIZdxZqjcu0 18:26 moltenbot harrison's link: Ultraworld This - YouTube 18:26 harrison best film yet 18:26 harrison very relevant to anyone interested in voxel toy worlds 18:32 kaeza what is this...I don't even... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_632769148.jpg 18:32 mauvebic osama's old hideout? 18:33 mauvebic lol 18:34 kaeza lol 18:34 kaeza removed a node: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_632941143.jpg 18:34 mauvebic desert rock falls? 18:35 kaeza nope 18:35 mauvebic thank god the mese change is enough controversy for one month lol 18:35 kaeza it's still there: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_633034676.jpg 18:36 mauvebic your running -d1 and your chunks are loading? 18:36 Zetetic Whawt changed about mese? 18:36 mauvebic *youre 18:36 Zetetic I'm new so I don't know what it was like before 18:36 VanessaE hi all. 18:36 mauvebic it was just a block before, and theres still debate and polls about it today lol 18:36 kaeza yup 18:36 kaeza hi VanessaE 18:36 mauvebic weird my maps didn't load with -d1 so i had to downgrade 18:37 VanessaE mauvebic: something's going kinda kooky with the map loader over the past month 18:37 PilzAdam mauvebic, that cant be 18:37 mauvebic but it was 18:37 mauvebic why would anyone make that up anyhow? 18:38 PilzAdam its not due to the networing changes in -d1 18:38 mauvebic im not in the habit of filing false bug reports :p 18:38 mauvebic i dont know *why* the chunks weren't loading, all i know is i had time to 420 before seeing a few nodes lol 18:39 mauvebic sucks because there are alot of other fixes/features in the latest i'd love to dev w/ 18:40 * VanessaE grumbles at the forums being down yet again 18:40 kaeza heh 18:40 mauvebic yeah its getting to be like it was a year ago 18:40 rubenwardy when I do this target = pos 18:40 rubenwardy are changes made to pos when i change target? 18:40 kaeza yes 18:40 PilzAdam yep 18:40 rubenwardy damn 18:40 VanessaE has anyone used my moretrees mod yet? 18:40 mauvebic yeah works by reference 18:40 rubenwardy how to stop that? 18:40 PilzAdam use target = {x=pos.x...} 18:40 mauvebic ^ 18:40 rubenwardy huff 18:41 rubenwardy target = {x=pos.x,y=pos.y,z=pos.z} 18:41 mauvebic eggxactly 18:41 mauvebic new array, new reference 18:41 kaeza VanessaE: have been testing it for half an hour now 18:42 kaeza (without sutting down) 18:42 PilzAdam function copy_v3(vec) return {x=vec.x,y=vec.y,z=vec.z} end 18:42 * VanessaE wonders if her server has turned into a forest yet... 18:42 PilzAdam ^ free helper function 18:43 mauvebic thats handy unless you need to do +/- 1 for x,y, or z 18:44 PilzAdam function copy_v3(vec, add) if add then return {x=vec.x+add.x.,y=vec.y+add.y,z=vec.z+add.z} else return {x=vec.x,y=vec.y,z=vec.z} end end 18:45 VanessaE wow, lots of jungle trees around. I may need to fine-tune the guard radius a little :-) 18:45 markveidemanis ? 18:45 markveidemanis Yep! 18:45 markveidemanis Hello! 18:45 markveidemanis Yep 18:45 rubenwardy (VanessaE is talking to her self) 18:45 markveidemanis look at yesterdays log 18:45 markveidemanis [-- 18:45 markveidemanis Yep 18:45 markveidemanis Yep 18:46 markveidemanis " 18:46 markveidemanis a 18:46 mauvebic +q 18:46 markveidemanis And so on 18:46 markveidemanis --] 18:46 markveidemanis remember that? 18:46 Zetetic VanessaE: you have proper growing trees? 18:46 markveidemanis Trees 18:46 markveidemanis make christmas trees 18:46 markveidemanis as entities 18:46 VanessaE Zetetic: growing in the sense that they spawn in defined areas and eventually turn from saplings into trees like the regular game trees do, yes. 18:46 Zetetic aH 18:47 markveidemanis NOOO make it an entity 18:47 Zetetic I thought your trees sometimes caused harbours 18:47 Zetetic s/harbours/saplings/ 18:47 markveidemanis S 18:47 VanessaE eh? 18:47 VanessaE my mod spawns saplings first, then grows them into trees later, to avoid heavy CPU spikes and server lag 18:48 Calinou sfan5: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:ActivatorRail.gif < spotted 18:48 moltenbot Calinou's link: File:ActivatorRail.gif - Minecraft Wiki 18:49 Jordach hahahahahahaha 18:49 Obiewan1111 Why is the website still down? :/ 18:49 mauvebic romulans 18:50 Zetetic Communists 18:50 Jordach Klingons on the VPS, scrape 'em off c55!¬ 18:50 markveidemanis Moo# 18:50 rubenwardy ServerError: LuaError: error: .../waterplus/init.lua:120: bad argument #-2 to 'set_node' (string expected, got nil) 18:51 markveidemanis Uh-Oh 18:52 Calinou "Textures for blocks and items now have individual image files." <= on minecraft 18:52 kaeza rubenwardy: are you calling minetest.env.set_node() or minetest.env:set_node() ? 18:52 Calinou means easier conversions :D 18:52 NakedFury saw that calinou? 18:52 rubenwardy : 18:52 NakedFury that is good news for us 18:52 rubenwardy minetest.env:set_node(from,nh_from) 18:52 Jordach Calinou, drag and drop baby! 18:53 kaeza may I take a look at the code? PM if you want 18:53 Jordach (not in the rude sense)_ 18:53 mauvebic could someone make a waterworld type mapgen? where water level is y= 50 or 100 18:53 Jordach wait 18:53 Jordach i had a forum topic asking about that and someone gave me the code 18:54 mauvebic i know theres' a flatlands generator, maybe it was adapted from theat 18:54 mauvebic *that 18:55 Jordach mauvebic nope. 18:55 mauvebic i was gonna search the forums but lol 18:56 mauvebic one advantage of hosting my mods on google sites is better uptime lol 18:57 Jordach mauvebic, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1517718/ 18:57 moltenbot Jordach's link: Ubuntu Pastebin 18:57 mauvebic which i notice more and more newbies and oldies are doing 18:57 mauvebic sweet thanks jordach 18:59 NakedFury a water world type generation with very very few land masses and then they being small would be a cool game mode 19:00 mauvebic you saw the pic of gehn's age i posted on irc yesterday? 19:00 Jordach mauvebic, pm 19:02 mauvebic nakedfury http://mystarchive.com/rivenil/images/rockform.jpg 19:02 NakedFury ohh I saw that 19:02 mauvebic thats why i need the waterworld code :) 19:02 mauvebic *needed 19:03 NakedFury well place the water over 100 Y so its not easy to go build in the seabed 19:03 mauvebic i may have to learn some basic-ass cpp to submit a patch to change the sky colour though 19:06 thexyz Jordach: I offered to host it a long time ago 19:06 Jordach i know 19:06 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Jordach's head 19:06 thexyz so better ask c55 19:06 Jordach o hai NekoGloop 19:07 Calinou hi NekoGloop 19:07 kaeza hey Neko 19:07 rubenwardy the finite mod works! 19:09 Jordach impossibru 19:09 Jordach also, texture making wise, i learned a ton from minetest faithful 19:09 kaeza VanessaE: lol jungle trees grow underwater 19:09 Jordach :O 19:09 VanessaE they grow a bit below sea level sure 19:09 VanessaE screenshot? 19:10 NekoGloop Minecraft logic fail: wheat grows next to lava 19:11 Jordach \o/ 19:11 khonkhortisan lava would evaporate any remaining water in the ground 19:12 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635245589.jpg 19:12 Calinou *drops in suggestion for minetest_game* magma (lava with a different texture) should generate at the bottom of the map (somewhere at -30900) and kills instantly, and cannot be picked up 19:12 VanessaE er, those aren't my jungle trees :-) 19:13 kaeza VanessaE: also: epic jungle tree: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635208712.jpg 19:13 mauvebic if the ground was cold enough lava would solidify into molten rock 19:13 Calinou would be easy to make 19:13 VanessaE kaeza: you playing around with the rules/axiom/biome defs? :-) 19:13 kaeza nope 19:13 kaeza only with interval anc chance for the ABM 19:13 kaeza nad* 19:13 Oblivion1500 Calinou: what would be the point of that? 19:13 kaeza and* 19:14 Calinou Oblivion1500: some kind of bedrock? 19:14 Calinou but that hurts :3 19:14 VanessaE weird. they are always supposed to be + shaped trunks, those look like single-node-thick trunks 19:14 Calinou just having an invisible wall doesn't make the game feel "finished" 19:14 kaeza VanessaE: they are 19:14 mauvebic its hard to get any substance to kill instantly though 19:14 kaeza lemme get you a screen 19:14 Calinou mauvebic: set 20 damage per second 19:14 Oblivion1500 so no going past that point? 19:15 Calinou Oblivion1500: border of map is -30912, adding that magma a few layers up (-30900) 19:15 mauvebic i set it to 100 and i can still walk through it fast enough :/ 19:15 Calinou mauvebic: you can't use fast mode in liquids 19:15 Calinou (fly, you can) 19:15 Oblivion1500 nice, not like anyone is really going that far 19:15 Calinou (should be fixed imo, btw :P) 19:15 Oblivion1500 but a good idea none the less 19:15 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_635455618.jpg 19:16 mauvebic well yeah even flyfast should kill if damage is on :-) 19:16 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/409 <= can anyone with permissions merge this (please don't mind the tabs, it's ONE line)? thanks 19:17 VanessaE kaeza: interesting, you must be using an older version of the jungle tree code then .. 19:17 VanessaE wait, 19:17 kaeza VanessaE: I pulled yesterday 19:17 VanessaE I know why I think 19:17 VanessaE is your MT build from at least late in the day, Jan 8? 19:17 kaeza yup, also pulled yesterday 19:18 VanessaE weird. 19:18 kaeza lemme everything is pretty much up to date 19:18 kaeza s/lemme/ 19:18 kaeza // * 19:19 VanessaE very weird, because they're not coded to be anything but + shaped trunks 19:20 kaeza local JT_SPAWN_INTERVAL = 1; local JT_SPAWN_CHANCE = 1; local JT_GROW_INTERVAL = 1; local JT_GROW_CHANCE = 1; 19:20 kaeza those are the things I changed 19:20 VanessaE *nod* that's all that should need changed... 19:20 VanessaE can you pastebin one of the jungle tree defs? 19:20 kaeza gimme a sec 19:21 kaeza http://pastebin.com/k6nuZF3Z 19:21 kaeza there^ 19:22 VanessaE something is screwed up somewhere on your install then...because they are definitely not coded to do that... 19:22 VanessaE the defs look right 19:22 rubenwardy uploading video of finite water 19:22 VanessaE wait... 19:23 VanessaE did you also pull in the latest plantlife? 19:23 kaeza hmm 19:23 kaeza lemme check that 19:23 Oblivion1500 VanessaE: do you have a survival world? 19:23 VanessaE Oblivion1500: nope. creative only at the moment. 19:24 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, you need the very latest git of plantlife (as in, last night's commit)...I had to expand the API to allow for these trees. 19:24 Oblivion1500 VanessaE: ok, i just like all the mods implented on your server 19:24 kaeza VanessaE: ~/.minetest/games/testing/mods/plantlife$ git pull 19:24 kaeza Already up-to-date. 19:24 VanessaE Oblivion1500: when the map loader gets fixed, I might consider it. 19:25 VanessaE kaeza: and you're sure you're actually *running* those latest mods? :-) 19:25 Oblivion1500 VanessaE: sweet just let me know :) 19:25 VanessaE there's no way my code can do that :-) 19:25 kaeza yup 19:25 kaeza just in case lemme create a new world 19:25 kaeza hmm 19:26 VanessaE damn it why do the forums have to be down NOW of all times!? 19:26 * VanessaE grumbles loudly 19:27 NekoGloop Because now is when you want them. 19:27 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/moretrees-screenshot.png 19:27 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/moretrees-screenshot2.png 19:28 VanessaE I was about to post THOSE onto the moretrees thread as better screenshots than what I first posted. 19:28 * Jordach notices that VanessaE's resolution almost matches Jordachs 19:29 VanessaE 1280x1024. 19:29 rubenwardy Finite Water in Minetest 19:29 rubenwardy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMPIOO2vGc&feature=youtu.be 19:29 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Minetest Finite Water: Waterplus - YouTube 19:29 kaeza VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_636211466.jpg 19:29 VanessaE kaeza: strange. very very strange 19:29 kaeza rubenwardy: "This video is currently unavailable" 19:30 VanessaE it's almost like the map isn't fully loading. 19:30 NakedFury rubenwardy that is awesome 19:30 NakedFury I mean it 19:30 VanessaE rubenwardy: NICE!!!! 19:30 rubenwardy try again, kaeza? 19:30 rubenwardy thank you all :D 19:30 NakedFury question: if you open more space will the water go down to fill those new spaces? 19:30 rubenwardy no 19:31 rubenwardy not yet 19:31 VanessaE rubenwardy: now the water just needs to "flow" (animate) and dry up if it gets too thin 19:31 rubenwardy it will just hover 19:31 * Jordach sees fps at 15 19:32 Jordach laggy mod! 19:32 VanessaE low fps != lag 19:32 rubenwardy what I need to do is if water has air below it, it disappears and forms a water drop 19:32 rubenwardy It runs at 30fps when the recorder is not running 19:33 VanessaE rubenwardy: is it possible to exploit the existing flowing water draw type with your code? 19:33 rubenwardy flowing water does not support node boxes 19:33 VanessaE bummer 19:33 rubenwardy and the water drop forms a puddle on landing, and if that puddle is next to water, it turns into a low water bit 19:33 VanessaE RBA or Jeija was also looking into that also btw 19:33 NakedFury http://www.moddb.com/games/liquid-cubed something like this is what you want to achieve? 19:33 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Liquid Cubed Windows game - Mod DB 19:34 rubenwardy tell them off 19:34 VanessaE you should coordinate with whoever it was and really make that badass :-) 19:34 rubenwardy have they started? 19:34 rubenwardy kind of, NakedFury 19:34 VanessaE I don't remember who it was or if they'd started their work yet 19:34 Oblivion1500 rubenwardy: nice 19:35 rubenwardy I will release it on github soon 19:35 rubenwardy (there is 130 lines of code) 19:36 rubenwardy for 3 hours workish 19:36 VanessaE rubenwardy: can you include hooks in your mod that pipeworks can use? 19:36 rubenwardy group={water=} ? 19:36 VanessaE that works. :D 19:37 rubenwardy water is already defined though 19:37 VanessaE finite_water=percentage then 19:40 Oblivion1500 if we could intergrate the finilized version with minecraft we could make greving with water almost imposible and if you did the same with lava that would be cool 19:40 Oblivion1500 minetest* 19:40 NekoGloop rubenwardy: Redefine it... 19:41 rubenwardy it will be laggy 19:41 rubenwardy probably 19:41 VanessaE redefine it with a default of 100% so that it won't change anything initialliy 19:41 VanessaE initially* 19:41 VanessaE hrm, that's a problem 19:41 VanessaE ok, then this needs done in C++ 19:41 rubenwardy I dont know 19:41 rubenwardy no laggier than mobs 19:41 VanessaE wait.. 19:42 rubenwardy but a bit laggier than farming 19:42 rubenwardy interval = 1 19:42 rubenwardy chance = 1 19:42 VanessaE redefine water - but don't change anything about it. Take it out of creative inventory. Put yours in place instead. Make buckets always pour *your* water. 19:42 rubenwardy depends on how much water there is 19:42 VanessaE problem solved :-) 19:42 kaeza VanessaE: is this better? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_636997428.jpg 19:42 VanessaE so there would be two waters, but only one kind can be placed by the player - yours. 19:43 VanessaE kaeza: not really. Something is not working right. I suggest you wipe out moretrees, plantlife, minetest_game, and the engine, and re-clone all four. Something's badly broken. 19:44 rubenwardy bucket.register_liquid(source, flowing, itemname, inventory_image) 19:45 VanessaE kaeza: go on my server near my old home (the brick one). lots of jungle trees there that grew with the current code 19:45 kaeza VanessaE: seems like the engine was not up to date after all :P 19:45 kaeza sowwy 19:45 VanessaE told ya :) 19:46 VanessaE I knew those trees couldn't make 1-node-wide trunks unless your build was too old :) 19:46 rubenwardy just need to change a bucket's on_use function 19:50 VanessaE reason being, btw, is that the trunk size parameter was changed from boolean to string, to take at least three possible values 19:51 VanessaE (was true = thin, false = + shaped, now it's "single", "double", and "crossed" I think) 19:51 kaeza VanessaE: ^_^ https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_637444171.jpg 19:51 VanessaE I should randomize the jungle tree defs a little more to allow for shorter trees, all three trunk sizes, etc. 19:52 VanessaE much more better :D 19:52 kaeza ;) 19:52 NekoGloop mc skyblock: creeper spawns, game over. 19:52 thexyz celeron55: btw, my offer to host minetest.net still stands 19:52 VanessaE also, if you have bas080's vines/ropes mod, jungle trees will grow vines like in MC :-) 19:52 kaeza also: flying trees on octuteam world: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_3930614684.jpg 19:53 VanessaE heh, I've seen that before....and someone seems to like HDX too :-) 19:53 kaeza it's Awesomesauce™ 19:54 VanessaE (Awesomesauce™ and the Awesomesauce logo are copyright 2012 Mark Traceur, some rights reserved) 19:54 VanessaE ;) 19:54 kaeza hehe 19:54 rubenwardy done, vanessa 19:55 sapier that marctraceur requireing anyone to use gplv3? *g* 19:55 kaeza ...marc? 19:55 kaeza lol 19:55 sapier oops :-) 19:56 NekoGloop mactracuer 19:56 rubenwardy done, vanessaE 19:57 VanessaE rubenwardy: cool 19:57 kaeza btw why remove having to press 'E' to fly fast? 19:57 kaeza or is it toggleable now? 19:57 VanessaE kaeza: lot of people didn't like it, but yeah it's configurable now 19:57 VanessaE defaults to off/always fast 19:57 kaeza ok 19:57 VanessaE c55 especially didn't like it 19:58 kaeza I kinda found it useful 19:58 VanessaE personally, I wouldn't have minded - provided it hadn't been bound to "E", but maybe "F". 19:58 VanessaE (I use "E" for descend) 19:58 kaeza reserve 'F' for a future flashlight :P 19:58 VanessaE :P 19:59 NekoGloop Tab for inventory 19:59 NekoGloop E for running 19:59 NekoGloop What's the problem. 19:59 kaeza NekoGloop: +1 for Tab 19:59 sapier is minetest.net down ? 20:00 kaeza 'I' is inconvenient 20:00 NakedFury games usually do shift for running 20:00 NakedFury ctrl for crouching or C 20:00 kaeza Ctrl = crouching / descend 20:00 rubenwardy sapier: Finite Water in Minetest 20:00 rubenwardy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMPIOO2vGc&feature=youtu.be 20:00 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Minetest Finite Water: Waterplus - YouTube 20:01 kaeza also, X, C, and V for radio comm... sorry, too much CS :P 20:01 NakedFury z for prone 20:02 kaeza DoD? 20:02 NakedFury e for interaction r for reload 20:02 sapier great work :-) 20:02 NakedFury most games that let me go prone go with Z for it 20:02 sapier how much cpu power does this require? :-) 20:02 rubenwardy not as much as mobs 20:02 rubenwardy it is a single ABM with inteval of 1 20:03 rubenwardy and chance of 1 20:03 kaeza If someone patched the engine to allow checking keys from Lua this would open great possibilities 20:03 sapier so it requires mich more than current mobs ... they don't use abm's at all ;-) 20:03 kaeza (arbitrary keys) 20:03 sapier but still it looks great 20:04 rubenwardy are ABM's worse than on_globalstep for running through stuff? 20:04 sapier not quite sure but i think both are bad 20:05 kaeza rubenwardy: they are used for different purposes I think 20:05 sapier at least on_globalstep ain't multiplied by number of active nodes 20:05 rubenwardy true 20:05 VanessaE abms aren't bad if your trigger node(s) aren't too plentiful 20:05 rubenwardy although you still have to cycle though them 20:06 VanessaE and using abms means you can let the engine's scheduler handle some of the work 20:06 sapier finite water nodes potentially are endless ;-) 20:06 rubenwardy I would release the mod in alpha on the forum, but... 20:06 rubenwardy at least http://dev.minetest.net/ is up 20:06 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Minetest Developer Wiki 20:06 VanessaE but the %&#*%&*#% forums are down. 20:06 kaeza !ping minetest.net 20:06 kaeza ? 20:06 moltenbot host minetest.net DOWN 20:07 kaeza frack 20:07 rubenwardy !ping dev.minetest.net 20:07 moltenbot 64 bytes from 176.9.122.10: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=8.74 ms 20:07 sapier still abm's are a nightmare if applied to common nodes 20:07 sapier e.g. "dirt" 20:07 rubenwardy such as dirt 20:07 mauvebic dirt-ambience done 20:07 mauvebic erm 20:07 mauvebic *space 20:07 VanessaE sapier: truew. 20:07 VanessaE true* 20:08 * mauvebic more coffee 20:08 * VanessaE hooks up mauvebic's coffee to an IV pump 20:08 sapier that's what earlier mobf versions did for spawning ... and most likely is reason for mobf requireing so much cpu power 20:08 sapier is anyone interested in a lua callback called on_chunk_load? 20:09 kaeza hmm 20:09 rubenwardy (notice how I spill some accidentally at the end of the video)