| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:18 |
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kaeza joined #minetest |
| 00:18 |
kaeza |
hello |
| 00:19 |
Octupus |
Hi kaeza |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
hey kaeza... go on the server and look in my house ;-) |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
not at home :( |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
aw :( |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
wait |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
has sfan5 latest for win? |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-1d13d10-win32.7z |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
that's the latest commit hash, so yes :-_) |
| 00:21 |
kaeza |
DL'ing |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:21 |
kaeza |
anything new? |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
depends on how old your last one was |
| 00:21 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember :-) |
| 00:22 |
kaeza |
I think about four days ago |
| 00:22 |
kaeza |
so I think it should do :) |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
a few things - automatic render distance works a little better, and the screen doesn't turn black anymore during the rendering/extrude code |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
so you can leave "preload item visuals" un-checked without a major video problem :-) |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
good |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
hi Taoki. :-) |
| 00:24 |
Taoki |
hi :) |
| 00:24 |
Octupus |
Hi Taoki |
| 00:24 |
kaeza |
hey Taoki |
| 00:24 |
kaeza |
V what's your ip? |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82:30000 |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
k thanks yet again ;) |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
np |
| 00:26 |
kaeza |
hmmm... is the forum down again? |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
seems okay to me? |
| 00:27 |
Octupus |
Mayba |
| 00:27 |
kaeza |
for some reason it doesn't allow me to login |
| 00:27 |
kaeza |
I'm using Chrome on Windows |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
odd, someone else on the forums was having that problem - maybe your work ISP blocks 5.0.0.0/24? |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
It was connecting yesterday |
| 00:28 |
NakedFury |
I usually need 2 tries to enter the website |
| 00:28 |
NakedFury |
the first it doesnt do anything and the second it enters the site |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
VanessaE: Adam made a boat mod :D |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
Octupus: I know. I have it installed already. |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
he tested it on my server :-) |
| 00:30 |
kaeza |
Octupus: cool |
| 00:30 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: hence the extra-long login time on my server - new media to be downloaded. |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: still 81% |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
almost there |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
fck GPF |
| 00:32 |
NakedFury |
it can go faster if you have all the mods the server uses on your games minetest folder |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
timed out :-) |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
NakedFury: is that new? |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: GPF'd |
| 00:33 |
NakedFury |
dont know but when playing on OldCoders server it logins faster |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: it would go faster too if c55's network code was in better shape ;-) |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 00:33 |
NakedFury |
games/minestest_games/mods : containts all mods the server uses |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
sooo true |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
~/.minetest/games/vanessa_game <---- narcissistic much? :-) |
| 00:34 |
NakedFury |
na |
| 00:34 |
NakedFury |
you just like your name |
| 00:34 |
NakedFury |
it would be different if the folder icon was a picture of your face |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
that and I lack a certain amount of creativity in some situations :-) |
| 00:35 |
NakedFury |
then I would be worried |
| 00:42 |
kaeza |
bitch pleaseç |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 00:43 |
kaeza |
my world is Kaeza and my player is TheAlmightyKaeza |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
so sign back on already :-) |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
going in |
| 00:45 |
* VanessaE |
waits :-) |
| 00:46 |
* VanessaE |
waits some more.. for the eventual GPF again :D |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
GPF |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
that's why I hate Windows |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
aaaarrrgh |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
fcking GPF again |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
maybe opengl vs. d3d? |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
hmmm |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
lemme see |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
or directx whatever |
| 00:50 |
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| 00:52 |
kaeza |
now GPF'ed at the menu |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
kaeza... |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
# Video back-end. |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
# Possible values: null, software, burningsvideo, direct3d8, direct3d9, opengl |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
#video_driver = opengl |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
this comp GPFs when entering game on default driver, and at menu on D3D |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
I hate when not playing in my comp |
| 00:55 |
kaeza |
I might as well convince my brother in law to install some linux distro on this one |
| 00:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: have you seen? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 |
| 00:56 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: yeah, seen it. |
| 00:57 |
kaeza |
hmmm... I think I will finally add animated textures for the next version |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:58 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Re: What you've included, http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/132/9/e/stop_the_vaio_lence_by_lttam-d3g70oh.png |
| 00:58 |
marktraceur |
(the worst pun EVER) |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
ugh.. |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
I was thinking of making a looped animation, playing minetest within minetest :) |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
marktraceur: right |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 01:00 |
kaeza |
oh, and hello |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: well the surprise was that I added your computers mod to the server :-) |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
and put a few of them in my new house in their respective places |
| 01:00 |
kaeza |
!oh you ruined the surprise :( |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
you took too long to fix yer game :-) |
| 01:01 |
kaeza |
but I'm really glad to see someone likes what i do |
| 01:01 |
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| 01:01 |
kaeza |
and actually uses it :) |
| 01:02 |
TANKERx64 |
I deleted everything in mapgen.lua except for registers and the map generates really really fast |
| 01:02 |
kaeza |
I've been thinking of releasing a functional computer later |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: idea... |
| 01:03 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: yes? |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
make one of the computers run some minigame like jin_xi's tetris one |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:03 |
kaeza |
I was thinking about it too |
| 01:03 |
kaeza |
It would be cooler if c55 would add a "Canvas" item for the gui |
| 01:04 |
kaeza |
that way you could technically be able to create minetest within minetest |
| 01:04 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 01:05 |
kaeza |
hmmm.... |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
like that minecraft-in-minecraft minigame |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
except we can do better than that thing. |
| 01:06 |
kaeza |
no I mean a programmable canvas, with simple put/getpixel api (the rest of the primitives could be implemented in lua) |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
ahh |
| 01:06 |
kaeza |
if you know about Java applets then maybe you get what I'm talking about |
| 01:06 |
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| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
actually I interpreted that as "graphic primitives" e.g. blitter, solids, etc. operations |
| 01:07 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
I don't know anything about java except that I don't like it :-) |
| 01:08 |
kaeza |
with simple put/getpixel you can program blits/transparency/etc in lua |
| 01:08 |
kaeza |
lines/circles/whatever |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 01:08 |
kaeza |
but maybe I'm just dreaming :) |
| 01:14 |
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| 01:15 |
kaeza |
k guys time to go. My planet needs me :) |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
bye :-/ |
| 01:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
wieners wieners wieners |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wish that terrain generation was completely in c++ or at least it was faster in lua |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
OH I WISHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: hmmmm is working on it. |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
OH THANK YOU HMMMMM I WOULD GREATLY OBLIQUIGUATE |
| 01:23 |
hmmmm |
lol. |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
last thing I saw was that he'd gotten it to a working state but... |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
...HAH |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
ok he can finish that sentence for me :-P |
| 01:23 |
hmmmm |
yeah it is in a working state, it needs a lot of cleanup |
| 01:24 |
hmmmm |
and there are some odd bugs like for some reason biome boundaries are flat on one side |
| 01:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is it faster hmmmm? |
| 01:24 |
hmmmm |
well what do you think!? |
| 01:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
I DONT KNOW |
| 01:24 |
hmmmm |
it's twice as slow as the old one. |
| 01:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yayyyy |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
"... but it isn't production-ready and may still have major bugs" was to be my finish :-) |
| 01:24 |
hmmmm |
mm yes |
| 01:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
can i try it pwease |
| 01:24 |
hmmmm |
the mapgen and associated changes are humungous |
| 01:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
Sounds good |
| 01:25 |
hmmmm |
i don't predict this being production-ready for a while |
| 01:25 |
hmmmm |
it's like 2KLoC total |
| 01:25 |
hmmmm |
2kloc of changes |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
in other words, a metric assload. :-) |
| 01:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
github repo? |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
you really just want to try it huh |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
i'll add in some more biome definitions |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
so it's fun |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
......................................................................................................................................................................................... Yea |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
i only have like 5 |
| 01:26 |
hmmmm |
right now |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
"only" hah |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can i please try it? :( |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is it in c++ or lua? |
| 01:27 |
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| 01:27 |
hmmmm |
it's lua |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
better than the two and a half we have now :-) |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
wb kaeza |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
back again |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh, well can i try it then? :D |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hi kaeza |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
hey jordan |
| 01:27 |
hmmmm |
lol |
| 01:27 |
hmmmm |
you just really want to try it |
| 01:27 |
hmmmm |
so here's how you'll define the biomes: http://pastebin.com/qUWiCiR5 |
| 01:27 |
moltenbot |
hmmmm's link: [Lua] -- -- Register the frequency at which biome groups occur -- minetest.register - Pastebin.com |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Ya |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
have you updated your quarry? |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Not yet |
| 01:28 |
hmmmm |
if it turns out to not be as interesting, i am going to change it so that you can modify spread values, octaves, etc. |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm, is this mapgen completely in lua? or are there c++ changes too? |
| 01:28 |
hmmmm |
those are parameters that influence the size of the noice lattice |
| 01:28 |
hmmmm |
no, that's just the part in lua where you define custom biomes |
| 01:28 |
hmmmm |
everything else is C++ |
| 01:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
mdasmdasmdasmdm I can't wait for it :X |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
i'm sure you can't! |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
it might show up in 4.5 |
| 01:29 |
kaeza |
4.5? |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
0.4.5. |
| 01:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
:O |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: in all seriousness, I look forward to seeing your new mapgen code put into practice. With all the work you've done and the hairpulling involved, I'm sure it will be a couple orders of magnitude better than the default. |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
why does everybody get on me about that |
| 01:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: ARGH!j2oihf2379frt421rt78942`1xyr794366~&($ |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
yeah! |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
It is pretty awesome |
| 01:30 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: lol |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
i also want to simplify the way caves are generated |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
ZERO POINT FOUR POINT [X] |
| 01:30 |
kaeza |
I know how you feel when someone does that |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
oh fuck me, I misread my screen again :-) |
| 01:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
mmmmm gingerbread house |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: didn't realize it was all that complicated, though some of the caves can be pretty intricate |
| 01:32 |
kaeza |
it could be awesome if someone added a standard way to find the current biome |
| 01:32 |
kaeza |
a-la ambience mod |
| 01:32 |
hmmmm |
wellll |
| 01:32 |
hmmmm |
it's not complicated, really, it's just really messy and all over the place |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
gotchya. |
| 01:32 |
hmmmm |
i think it's nice too, honestly, i just wonder if i could do even better |
| 01:33 |
hmmmm |
i mean i think the results are nice |
| 01:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
is it fast? |
| 01:33 |
hmmmm |
yes |
| 01:33 |
hmmmm |
jeez |
| 01:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
YAY |
| 01:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can it make toast? |
| 01:33 |
hmmmm |
nope. |
| 01:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
I always wanted to make a toast mod |
| 01:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
place bread above lava and it turns into toast |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
ohh brother.. |
| 01:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
too long and it turns into acid |
| 01:36 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez: some more advanced food mod? |
| 01:36 |
kaeza |
would be cool |
| 01:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea |
| 01:36 |
hmmmm |
aha! |
| 01:36 |
kaeza |
have you played Harvest Moon? |
| 01:36 |
hmmmm |
well my liquid transformation works |
| 01:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Nope |
| 01:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Have you played reel fishing 2? |
| 01:37 |
kaeza |
Well, it has about 200 different recipes |
| 01:37 |
kaeza |
might as well copy it :) |
| 01:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm if you make a source have it's alternate flow be the same source, you can create finite liquid |
| 01:38 |
kaeza |
including cakes, french fries, toasts :) |
| 01:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
sounds delicious lol |
| 01:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
minetest has a memory leak of 9mb |
| 01:38 |
kaeza |
mem leak? |
| 01:39 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 01:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
MHM |
| 01:39 |
kaeza |
after playing for a long time without quitting it suddenly dumps core (GPFs in Windows terms) |
| 01:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
It creates problems for me, i kind if hesitate to play minetest because of it |
| 01:40 |
hmmmm |
9mb? |
| 01:40 |
hmmmm |
that's hardly a memory leak lol |
| 01:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea |
| 01:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well all i did was start up the game |
| 01:41 |
mrtux |
it's a bit higher for me\ |
| 01:41 |
mrtux |
around ~400mb or so |
| 01:41 |
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| 01:41 |
mrtux |
could be all the mods i have installed |
| 01:41 |
hmmmm |
it's not, it's all the loaded blocks |
| 01:41 |
hmmmm |
once the blocks unload it ought to reduce |
| 01:41 |
mrtux |
ah i see |
| 01:41 |
hmmmm |
tital wave! http://i.imgur.com/XcnUN.png |
| 01:41 |
kaeza |
even a 1 byte mem leak is bad |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
336 MB resident for my minetestserver instance. |
| 01:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh god :O |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
tidal* |
| 01:42 |
mrtux |
hmmmm, ha! |
| 01:42 |
Muadtralk |
nice textures |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: this is from the new mapgen? |
| 01:42 |
mrtux |
if that is a mod |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
yea |
| 01:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think i need to download more ram |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: cool. |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
I have to smooth out the biome transitions |
| 01:42 |
mrtux |
It's sad that I have 512MB of ram... |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
especially from ocean to other things |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: wait! |
| 01:42 |
kaeza |
hmmmm: coom |
| 01:43 |
hmmmm |
otherwise you get what you see there |
| 01:43 |
kaeza |
cool* |
| 01:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm why doesn't the biome get the surrounding biome's height? |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: please for the love of Mike, don't do that dithered thing that we have now. |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: instead make some new blocks to make the transition actually be smooth |
| 01:43 |
hmmmm |
haha, vanessa, nope |
| 01:43 |
hmmmm |
you'll see, it'll be nice |
| 01:43 |
hmmmm |
jordan, that's because each biome has its own scale and offset values |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
I *hate* the dithered desert <-> grass transitions. they are .... not right. |
| 01:43 |
hmmmm |
it's an attempt though |
| 01:44 |
Muadtralk |
they should have gravel between them |
| 01:44 |
kaeza |
hey Muadtralk |
| 01:44 |
Muadtralk |
that way its going from dry desert to rocky terrain then dirt |
| 01:44 |
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| 01:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
Sometimes i think there will never be an os that can do it all |
| 01:44 |
* VanessaE |
sings... "ho ho fucking, ho what a crock of shit - we all work for Santa Claus, we've had enough, we quit..." |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
ok maybe that's too raunchy even for this channel :-) |
| 01:45 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 01:45 |
Muadtralk |
there wont be an os that does it all |
| 01:45 |
hmmmm |
"does it all"? |
| 01:45 |
Muadtralk |
if that was made we would have to make new tihngs that only sometihng else can do |
| 01:45 |
Muadtralk |
things* |
| 01:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
Does not have bugs, can be installed in solid state firmware, boots up almost instantly |
| 01:46 |
Muadtralk |
try dos! |
| 01:46 |
* mrtux |
keyboard is breaking |
| 01:46 |
hmmmm |
why do you care about boot time? |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
or Windows 1.01 |
| 01:46 |
hmmmm |
do you reboot 50 times a day? |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
8 year old keyboard lulz |
| 01:46 |
hmmmm |
i can understand if we're talking Solaris-boot-slow |
| 01:46 |
hmmmm |
or AIX |
| 01:47 |
hmmmm |
AIX.. christ.... it takes literally 20 minutes for my RS/6000 to boot |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
what is a "fast" boot? |
| 01:47 |
hmmmm |
like 30 seconds? |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
my Win 7 Ultimate boots up in about 10 secs |
| 01:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Like windows 8 can boot in 4 seconds, but seriously, it's windows 8 that's the only thing it has |
| 01:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
then linux has stability |
| 01:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
windows 7 has gaming |
| 01:47 |
hmmmm |
windows 8 cheats |
| 01:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
gentoo and arch have customizability |
| 01:48 |
hmmmm |
that's hibernation, not real booting |
| 01:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mac os has style |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
actually hmmmm I have had several days where I have to reboot almost 50 times a day |
| 01:48 |
hmmmm |
that sucks |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
and it gets very, very tiresome if you have a 2 minute boot time for windows |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
try removingt unneeded things fro startup |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
I currentyly only have the antivirus control panel |
| 01:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Then windows gets slower over time, and so does linux and mac, and blah, unless you have an ssd |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
I have a SSD and it *still* gets slow on occasion |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
(but it's a far cry from the pain that is booting/operating from spinning rust) |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
the problem is that most oses now add a bunch of things that are unneeded |
| 01:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
And even when you have an ssd you can still defrag it on windows, which makes no sense |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
seriously, Ubuntu is 2.6GB installed IIRC |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
yup, too many layers of crap between the OS and the user. Whatever happened to the concept of loading what you need, on demand? |
| 01:51 |
kaeza |
but it has no `flex' |
| 01:52 |
Muadtralk |
hehe i dont have much of anything running on windows |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: upwards of 9GB with everything but the kitchen sink, installed. |
| 01:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
The fastest file system i've ever seen is xfs, which smokes ntfs, but you can only use it on linux and bsd |
| 01:52 |
Muadtralk |
only 9 gigs? |
| 01:52 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 01:52 |
kaeza |
but still no `flex' :( |
| 01:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol |
| 01:52 |
Muadtralk |
my my thats the drain not the kitchen sink |
| 01:52 |
* jordan4ibanez |
bends ubuntu until it snaps |
| 01:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
oops |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: yeah - for the system itself. Now, counting my data library and home directory, it's closer to half a terabyte. |
| 01:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
For the mesecons challenge i'm going to make a lever |
| 01:53 |
Muadtralk |
win7 if you havent noticed installs with nothing on it to almost 20 gigs |
| 01:53 |
Muadtralk |
somethings wrong with that |
| 01:53 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez: go for something useful like a data bus or something like that |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: jeez :-/ |
| 01:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea, it's because of the language packs |
| 01:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's all in one, which sucks ass |
| 01:54 |
Muadtralk |
no even without it |
| 01:54 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: yeah |
| 01:54 |
Muadtralk |
i tried deleting as much as i could without destroying its usability |
| 01:54 |
Muadtralk |
it didnt do much |
| 01:54 |
Muadtralk |
all that encryption must be the culprit |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
the only use I have for multiple languages is just so that programs will properly render foreign text - I don't give a shit about translations or even being able to READ it, I just don't wanna see little boxes with UTF-8 codes therein. |
| 01:55 |
kaeza |
that's because a stupid program like notepad occupies 1MB |
| 01:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
My windows 7 expires in 87 days, so idk, when steam comes onto linux fully i'm off windows |
| 01:55 |
kaeza |
and they don't have debugging symbols :) |
| 01:55 |
Muadtralk |
and notepad is directly intertwined with the entire system |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: sad isn't it? Remember when a full word processing suite used to be ~50kB? |
| 01:55 |
Muadtralk |
which if you manage to delete it |
| 01:55 |
Muadtralk |
it will bite you in the ass |
| 01:55 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: good old times |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: there are betas of Steam4linux out now. |
| 01:56 |
kaeza |
I remember "The Last Word" for the Speccy |
| 01:56 |
Muadtralk |
yes fior those lucky few who got into the beta |
| 01:56 |
Muadtralk |
for* |
| 01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
I like that you can beat the shit out of linux and it'll still work |
| 01:56 |
Muadtralk |
until you misconfigure a monitor and you cant see anything |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: geoWrite... and you had a full GUI OS under it...and the whole OS + toolchain fit on a 330kB floppy disk. |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
how far have we fallen? :( |
| 01:57 |
Muadtralk |
very very far |
| 01:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
No, i've done that |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: hmm... never heard of it... gotta research this |
| 01:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
I installed the wrong nvidia driver and i still could fix it, it wrecked the boot loader and i still managed to fix it lol |
| 01:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
i did that with windows 7 2 weeks ago and had to reinstall |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: it's part of an OS called GEOS (which ran on 8-bit computers of the 80's) |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
but yes, we've fallen lower than rock bottom |
| 01:58 |
Muadtralk |
we must have dug past the void |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: Xfre86 modelines ftw! |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
Xfree86* |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
A few years ago I seen a notepad-like program that required DX9 |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
DX for a fucking text editor!? |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: lol |
| 01:59 |
Muadtralk |
what? |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 01:59 |
Muadtralk |
directx? |
| 01:59 |
Muadtralk |
thats insane |
| 01:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
directx. |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 01:59 |
Muadtralk |
what did it do that required it? |
| 01:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
i love when people pull out the, linux doesn't support directx card, it's not supposed to |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
"special effects" |
| 01:59 |
Muadtralk |
did it play space invaders with 8th dimensional physics? |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
IIRC |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
that's beyond insane. What are they trying to do, make it render the text into some kind of perverted 3d environment? |
| 02:00 |
kaeza |
something like that |
| 02:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
MIRC |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
*groan* |
| 02:00 |
Muadtralk |
ew |
| 02:00 |
Muadtralk |
i tried that irc client once |
| 02:01 |
kaeza |
what? |
| 02:01 |
kaeza |
IIRC = If I Recall/Remember Correctly |
| 02:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
MIRC aka packfuck |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
i meant MIRC |
| 02:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
buggiest non free client |
| 02:01 |
kaeza |
I use either webchat, XChat, or pidgin :) |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
i remember one time I pirated it for a friend |
| 02:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
Quassel is truly the best |
| 02:02 |
Muadtralk |
he was very very quick to delete it |
| 02:02 |
Muadtralk |
pidgin is nice actually |
| 02:02 |
Muadtralk |
doesnt give many bugs |
| 02:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
NO QUASSEL IS BETTUR |
| 02:02 |
OldCoder |
It is like editors |
| 02:02 |
OldCoder |
To each their own |
| 02:02 |
Muadtralk |
ill remember that the next time i want to use KDE to run it |
| 02:02 |
kaeza |
the good thing with pidgin is that you can also login to your Yahoo chat accounts, etc |
| 02:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Nice |
| 02:03 |
Muadtralk |
and twitter! |
| 02:03 |
kaeza |
though I rarely use Y! now |
| 02:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh yea i remember pidgin |
| 02:03 |
kaeza |
and it has a centralized interface where you can see your friends, etc |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
pidgin isnt very kind to my cpu |
| 02:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
somehow if ive been using it all day |
| 02:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
Pidgin wasn't very fast though, at least when i was on a p4 |
| 02:04 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: that's strange |
| 02:04 |
kaeza |
using Windows? |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
it manages to make several copies of its own process |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
and slow me down |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
in linux |
| 02:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lolwut |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
damn windows |
| 02:04 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 02:05 |
Muadtralk |
I wont wait 2 minutes for it to load on my computer |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
I only see a single instance of pidgin in the process list |
| 02:05 |
Muadtralk |
its a rare bug |
| 02:05 |
Muadtralk |
but its crushed me several times |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
maybe you need to update? |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
o hai OldCoder! |
| 02:06 |
Muadtralk |
you talking to the person who cant use stable distros because he ends up breaking them to get the latest version of a solitaire application |
| 02:06 |
Muadtralk |
your* |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Hi! |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, I just added one of your mods! |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
It will appear in my worlds tonight |
| 02:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
I can't finish this gingerbread hoooose |
| 02:06 |
Muadtralk |
hose? |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
OldCoder: which one? (I have only two) |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
house |
| 02:06 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, computers IIRC |
| 02:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
no, hose |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 02:07 |
kaeza |
oh cool! |
| 02:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
no jk, house |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
computers are useful |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
jordan4ibanez, very well |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Every home needs a kaeza komputer! |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
:p |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE world has them |
| 02:07 |
Muadtralk |
yes they are quite useful for incasing people in nodes while they are idle |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
So into mine they go |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
<--- misses the reference |
| 02:07 |
Muadtralk |
my favorite pastime |
| 02:07 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 02:07 |
kaeza |
I'll try intergrating (read: stealing) the code from the arcade machine |
| 02:08 |
Muadtralk |
in game if someone goes idle |
| 02:08 |
Muadtralk |
i almost always incase them in useless decorative nodes |
| 02:08 |
Muadtralk |
like gravel |
| 02:09 |
kaeza |
oh and the Pony SlayStation is good for those lone nights :) |
| 02:09 |
Muadtralk |
? |
| 02:09 |
Muadtralk |
oh |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please redownload: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip --and-- http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip |
| 02:10 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty and proceeding now |
| 02:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
OH THAT WAS BAD |
| 02:10 |
kaeza |
Muadtralk: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 |
| 02:10 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 02:12 |
Muadtralk |
why must the station slay ponies? |
| 02:12 |
Muadtralk |
what did they do to you? |
| 02:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
I want to make an advanced drawtype for carts, but just, TOO LAZY |
| 02:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is there a utility to create nodeboxes? |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: pilzadam says one can also use 3d models (ala the player) for entities. |
| 02:13 |
kaeza |
I hate my little pony |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
so fuck nodeboxes. use blender :-) |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: modern MLP just doesn't hold a candle to what I grew up with |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: MT has support for models?? |
| 02:14 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, conversion to LevelDB in progress |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: rudimentary, yes. |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: the player model is a .x file. |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
and it can be configured from Lua I guess |
| 02:14 |
kaeza |
I didn't notice that |
| 02:15 |
kaeza |
I was trying to make a nodebox golf cart |
| 02:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
How? |
| 02:15 |
kaeza |
entity |
| 02:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
No i meant where is the nodebox of the player? |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
the player isn't a nodebox. |
| 02:15 |
kaeza |
but my node boxing suxx |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
the player is a proper 3d model. |
| 02:16 |
jordan4ibanez |
How to set it to an entity then? |
| 02:16 |
Muadtralk |
with a fancy .blend file |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
no clue how to do it, I'm only barely familiar with it all. |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
not enough to understand the file formats yet, let alone the syntax :-) |
| 02:16 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
time to create an npc |
| 02:18 |
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| 02:19 |
kaeza |
jordan4ibanez: +1000 |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
The towntest mod is pretty slow |
| 02:19 |
kaeza |
and not very "realistic" |
| 02:20 |
kaeza |
and the workers mod, well, forget about it |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, world updated and check it out! |
| 02:22 |
OldCoder |
carts will crash until I update to 0.4.4 |
| 02:23 |
kaeza |
ok time to get really going |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
there we go, third time's the charm |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
kept mistying my passwd. |
| 02:24 |
kaeza |
bye guys |
| 02:24 |
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| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
right-click a cart ---> *** Server shutting down |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
perhaps you should delete the carts until you can update to 0.4.4 :-) |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
boats too |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
player_textures also |
| 02:38 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, updates are expected this week |
| 02:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/ZCIpA.png started |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: will the update be difficult? Can you use that LevelDB patch in 0.4.4? |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: what IS it? |
| 02:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
the beginning of a player npc |
| 02:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, all set |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I mostly need to test things; all should be well |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, thexyz and RBA were both put off, I think, by lack of acceptance upstream. But the three of us have talked and thexyz has shown me what to do. |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you should keep pressing c55 to get that patch merged upstream. If it works as well as it seems to for you, we need to switch to it. |
| 02:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, C55 seemed to agree to doing this later on |
| 02:43 |
OldCoder |
He is not in a rush. But we have a way to move forward for now. |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
Running 0.4.4 in multiple places with LevelDB will help |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
press on him anyway. |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
I will make the sources I use available |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
You overestimate my influence |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
But all right |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
he's stubborn - everyone in the community knows it, including him. :-) |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
Then... one step at a time |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
I will try to start 0.4.4 tomorrow |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
and when he sees this in the logs, hopefully he'll know I mean that in the nicest way possible ;-) |
| 02:44 |
OldCoder |
There is no work to the builds |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
It is about making sure everything does not get broken |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
Continuity |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
Continuity is key to the survival and growth of the project and community |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
We can't break all the worlds each time |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
Oldcoder will you provide a windows client like you did in the past? |
| 02:45 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, absolutely! |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
That is one of the things to test |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
ok |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
It really should be fine |
| 02:46 |
OldCoder |
The only problem I know of so far... |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
Is that Windows EXEs won't support local LevelDB. So if people want their worlds from my servers I will need to export back to SQLite3. |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
But they will run fine... |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
with the LevelDB worlds *on* my servers |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
This also means that people who wish to run their own servers are strongly encouraged to use Linux and not Windows |
| 02:49 |
NakedFury |
wont bother me, I dont plan on running any server |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: why was that again? |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: what was keeping LevelDB out of windows builds? |
| 02:51 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Boost |
| 02:52 |
OldCoder |
I built Boost for Windows. From scratch. But cmake simply will not find it! There are a few other problems as well. |
| 02:52 |
OldCoder |
Believe me I tried. Spent a day on this. |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
Maybe it's something ridiculously simple? |
| 02:52 |
OldCoder |
Probably |
| 02:53 |
OldCoder |
So I tried all the ridiculously simple things I could think of |
| 02:53 |
OldCoder |
I hate... |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
I mean, look for the smallest, stupidest, most obvious thing you can think of that, if done wrong, breaks the install. |
| 02:53 |
OldCoder |
build systems that try to make things simple |
| 02:53 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, MT is cmake based |
| 02:53 |
OldCoder |
And no matter what I did cmake would not accept Boost |
| 02:54 |
OldCoder |
If you know cmake experts |
| 02:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
now i have the basic model loaded http://i.imgur.com/RuQka.png |
| 02:54 |
OldCoder |
Tell them I'd like to build MT but cmake hates Boost |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
that leaves me out :-) |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
I hate cmake :-) |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
I used to have nothing but headaches with packages that use it years ago. |
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| 03:15 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ0gFMUj8DY |
| 03:15 |
moltenbot |
harrison's link: Seizure Gazelle - YouTube |
| 03:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
I DID IT!! |
| 03:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
:D |
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| 03:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
It's very very basic |
| 03:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
but it supports all the animations the normal player does |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
video? |
| 03:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/2w6O2yU1Ayg |
| 03:26 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Basic Minetest NPC - YouTube |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
not bad. Next, give it a better skin of course, but more importantly, make sure it always faces the direction it's moving toward :-) |
| 03:27 |
NakedFury |
I must celebrate. I found the guillotine command of gimp |
| 03:27 |
Muadtralk |
now... make it dance along to thriller |
| 03:28 |
Muadtralk |
and look like michael jackson |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 03:30 |
kizeren |
@NakedFury how is the dwarf mine coming on the server? |
| 03:30 |
khonkhortisan |
robots should have special skins so you can tell them apart |
| 03:31 |
NakedFury |
slowly but great |
| 03:31 |
NakedFury |
need to keep carving the center |
| 03:31 |
NakedFury |
gonna leave the hard work for last |
| 03:32 |
kizeren |
Might stop by and drop some teleports, hate walking all the way back up :) |
| 03:32 |
NakedFury |
ok |
| 03:32 |
kizeren |
<----Shaun by the way. |
| 03:35 |
NakedFury |
well this Gimp tool will speed up my texture project |
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| 03:38 |
khonkhortisan |
mc spy detected |
| 03:38 |
MiJyn |
hi |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:38 |
NakedFury |
this made 256 windows of gimp dammit |
| 03:38 |
NakedFury |
only downside |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: put it in single window mode |
| 03:38 |
khonkhortisan |
use the new version, you'll get 256 tabs ^ |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
then you only have hundreds of tabs instead :D |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
the window close button only closes the tab |
| 03:40 |
NakedFury |
close all caused the program to freeze |
| 03:40 |
NakedFury |
gimp has no check for updates? |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
dunno, in linux that sorta stuff is handled by package managers. |
| 03:43 |
NakedFury |
nice video jordan |
| 03:43 |
NakedFury |
now we need an exact player model selection box to accompany any 3d model done |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
+1 |
| 03:49 |
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| 03:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
here is the source code |
| 03:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qCNUWxYi |
| 03:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
right now the player model goes to the right |
| 03:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't understand how to make it not go to the right xD |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
I don't even understand how to make it go, period :-) |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
robocode has a check for updates, it's faster than my os |
| 04:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55914#p55914 |
| 04:01 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 04:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
I hope to make a mining npc |
| 04:04 |
khonkhortisan |
it's been done before with a node, it'd be better with a character |
| 04:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
it's really REALLY easy |
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VanessaE |
hi |
| 04:12 |
NakedFury |
can oyu use old gimp plugins on new version? |
| 04:14 |
NakedFury |
ignore. found the problem. it was a script not a plugin |
| 04:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
khonkhortisan: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2278CMTe |
| 04:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
basic mining npc |
| 04:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh wieners |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
related: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4015 |
| 04:25 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [MOD] Tunnel Boring Machine (Beta) [TBM] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: I think the NPCs should be aimed more at providing a good selection of hostile and non-hostile mobs |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
rather than being workers as such |
| 04:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea, this was just a test |
| 04:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
make some models and then they can be made hostile |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
who knows, your code might make it into git master if it's generic enough :-) |
| 04:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol |
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jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm you should have support for grass and like dead grass in your api |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
you mean in my plantlife mod? (??) |
| 04:56 |
hmmmm |
dead grass? |
| 04:56 |
hmmmm |
erm |
| 04:57 |
hmmmm |
not sure what you mean |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
dry shrubs? |
| 04:57 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, I know this is a late reply, but I saw your NPC mod... awesome!!! |
| 04:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm you know how i made grass spawn like it does in minecraft? |
| 04:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
like that is what i mean |
| 04:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
and thank you mijyn |
| 04:58 |
hmmmm |
i don't actually |
| 04:58 |
hmmmm |
sorry |
| 04:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
You know how dead shrubs spawn in deserts? |
| 04:58 |
hmmmm |
erm, i guess.. |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
fwiw, I do that in plantlife.... |
| 04:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
like that, only more densely |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
jungle grass -> dry shrubs after a while. |
| 04:59 |
hmmmm |
sounds like something you'd want to add in register_on_generated() |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
(but only in the desert, as configured by default) |
| 04:59 |
jordan4ibanez |
well that's what made generating grass slow |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/API.txt |
| 05:00 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: plantlife/API.txt at master ? VanessaE/plantlife ? GitHub |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
maybe what you need is in that mod. Look at the API doc. |
| 05:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't want to grow them, i want them to spawn on chunk generation, but right now there is no fast way to do that |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
well maybe I should extend plantlife to do that too :-) |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
seems like everyone and their dog prefers on-map-generate... |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
pfft. the API doesn't even explain how register_on_generated() works. |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
ew. sample code shows you have to iterate through X/Y/Z yourself!? |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
Jeez it's no wonder hooking into map generation is slow. |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
fuck that. |
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VanessaE |
hmmmm: having just looked briefly at mapgen.lua... um... would "oy gevalt" convey my sentiments appropriately? :-) |
| 05:24 |
hmmmm |
perhaps.... |
| 05:24 |
hmmmm |
there's a lot i think that can be done to make it better |
| 05:24 |
hmmmm |
we really need to look into that JITter again |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
I mean shit.. |
| 05:25 |
hmmmm |
this is going to become even more important when trees get put in (guess where they're going...) |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
this is iterating through the entire volume of each mapblock just to generate random ores or look for grass |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
this is just horrible |
| 05:26 |
hmmmm |
that's really the way most things are done in the mapgen |
| 05:26 |
hmmmm |
well, were |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
well sure, it makes sense generally....but in an interpreted language? |
| 05:26 |
hmmmm |
from lighting, to cave generating, to checking which nodes are liquid and need to be transformed, etc. |
| 05:26 |
hmmmm |
yeah, bad |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
that's 16^3 iterations of each loop for each ore if I read this right |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
what's that, 4k? |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
multiplied by however many mapblocks have to be generated for the current view... eek |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
try (16 * 5)^3 |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
*5? |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
yep |
| 05:27 |
hmmmm |
5x5x5 block chunks are generated each run |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
oh yes |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
I forgot about that |
| 05:28 |
hmmmm |
that's going to be configurable btw |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
so 512,000 nodes. |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
/iterations |
| 05:28 |
hmmmm |
default_chunk_size in the config file |
| 05:28 |
hmmmm |
and then it'll store that number in the map metadata |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
sounds good |
| 05:28 |
hmmmm |
so that way if you change that number it won't screw up existing maps |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
but yeah, half million iterations is bad enough, but lua... |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
it's incredible though |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
i've already come so far and the mapgen is pretty fast |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
and with one...two.... four pseudorandom calls per iteration as well |
| 05:29 |
hmmmm |
because i do a lot less crap for one, and for two, my noise calls are way faster |
| 05:30 |
hmmmm |
yeah, a lot of "optimization" is taken for granted |
| 05:30 |
hmmmm |
i know from my own experience that compilers do NOT always generate optimal code |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
not to disparage c55's coding skills or anything, but this is just BAD. |
| 05:30 |
hmmmm |
especially if you're doing something wasteful to boot |
| 05:30 |
hmmmm |
it doesn't have to do with coding skills, i think, it's just in bad taste and this is a rather naive method |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
so, what IS the story with compiled Lua? Depending on who you ask, either it's interpreted in realtime, or it's always compiled into p-code...which is it that MT is doing? |
| 05:31 |
hmmmm |
like one obvious optimization you can do there is to not generate ore if it's above ground |
| 05:31 |
hmmmm |
right now, MT is just using the regular lua, which gets compiled into p-code before being executed |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
and LuaJIT compiles it into something more akin to an executable then? |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
yes, native code |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if the same speed gains we used to see back in the old days apply here. |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
i've been _told_ that we've tried it before. |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
and that it didn't work out too great |
| 05:32 |
hmmmm |
but that was obviously before all this stuff started going out into lua |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
compiling BASIC into p-code usually gave you about a 5x speed boost, whereas compiling straight to assembly language tended to double that again, at a large cost of memory |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
lua is such a huge part of minetest now |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
yeah, thexyz tried it, but found no benefit, but I can't say if he did it right. |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
(luajit that is) |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
you know what they said about other things |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
(shaders, binary file format) |
| 05:33 |
hmmmm |
they all said "oh it's 3x slower" or whatever and it turns out they just did it wrong |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
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hmmmm |
I wish i could clone myself so i can work on different things at the same time |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
"You're holding it wrong." |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 05:34 |
hmmmm |
there is an incredible amount of stuff that i'd like to fix or rework |
| 05:34 |
hmmmm |
the shaders, i'm not too interested in, but the current lighting system could be optimized a whole lot |
| 05:35 |
hmmmm |
the file format, we don't really need to use a database and we'd be subject to the limitations of that database too |
| 05:35 |
hmmmm |
all that overhead |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
well there is one caveat to that... |
| 05:35 |
hmmmm |
huh |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
indexing a database is a lot easier than a flat file. |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
that said, |
| 05:36 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
I've found so many places (outside of minetest I mean) where anything other than a flat file is just overkill |
| 05:36 |
hmmmm |
my idea is to have block metadata elsewhere |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
you're thinking almost like the old sectors format then? |
| 05:36 |
hmmmm |
noo |
| 05:36 |
hmmmm |
noo that's horrible |
| 05:36 |
hmmmm |
one file |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
heh ok |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
the first idea i'd have for our own map file format is this: |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
you have your header section, block address mapping section, metadata section |
| 05:37 |
hmmmm |
and then the block data |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
all in the same file? |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
the block addressing section would be like a huge LUT that'll translate the block position in the world into the offset in the file |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
and vice versa |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
yea |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
mmmh... |
| 05:39 |
hmmmm |
have you ever read up on ext2? |
| 05:39 |
hmmmm |
maybe something like the inode structure how it has that single, double, then triple-indexed section for which blocks it's using |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
this is where my knowledge of filesystems breaks down a bit. I use ext4 myself, but when it comes to fs internals I don't know anything more recent than old stuff from my c64 |
| 05:40 |
hmmmm |
mm |
| 05:40 |
hmmmm |
okay in a nutshell: there are a static number of preallocated inodes, each for a file |
| 05:40 |
khonkhortisan |
Anyone know how to sell stuff on eBay? |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
but for relevance: I'm accustomed to accessing flat files in a purely linear fashion (versus random access in databases of the era, as today), that's why I'm confused. |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
but go on. |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: been a while. |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
in this 128 byte structure you have a bunch of fields, and then the last three you have the block sections |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
like one of the fields is an immediate listing of the LBA for the file |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
and if it's bigger than one block |
| 05:41 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't switch from the Online Auction tab to the Fixed Price tab. I can't tell if it's the page misbehaving or if I need to satisfy a requirement. |
| 05:41 |
hmmmm |
then the next field will contain the LBA of a chunk containing nothing but LBAs to blocks being used by the file |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
heh. sounds exactly like the old GEOS VLIR format. |
| 05:42 |
hmmmm |
and the next field goes deeper, it's a block containing addresses of blocks that contain addresses to parts of the file |
| 05:42 |
hmmmm |
basically |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
except of course that only had two levels of indirection but yeah, I see what you mean |
| 05:42 |
hmmmm |
well that sort of design element i like, i'd use that if i needed to store a variable amount of records |
| 05:43 |
hmmmm |
very efficient imo |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
well, I guess if implemented properly it would be pretty efficient then |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
(and it's a given that you'll do it right) |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
binary data or human-readable? |
| 05:45 |
hmmmm |
binary data obviously |
| 05:45 |
hmmmm |
we can't afford being inefficient |
| 05:45 |
VanessaE |
I assumed so |
| 05:45 |
hmmmm |
but again |
| 05:45 |
hmmmm |
this is a really really long term project that i'm only considering doing |
| 05:45 |
hmmmm |
and it has much lower priority than other things |
| 05:45 |
VanessaE |
maybe this can just be implemented as a third backend in lieu of SQLite or LevelDB |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
(assuming the latter ever makes it in that is) |
| 05:47 |
hmmmm |
of course it will |
| 05:47 |
hmmmm |
0.4.5 if anything |
| 05:47 |
VanessaE |
this by you is "long term"? :-) |
| 05:47 |
hmmmm |
0.4.5 is pretty short term |
| 05:47 |
VanessaE |
as I thought :-) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
at any rate, it'll get done when it gets done. |
| 05:48 |
hmmmm |
you know, when you start working on a project, you stop seeing everything as so far off, and instead you think "oh god, please make the release take as long as possible, this buggy PoS cannot possibly be made part of a release" |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 05:49 |
hmmmm |
fear of eating your own dog food i guess |
| 05:49 |
hmmmm |
but then again, i stopped playing minetest |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
you'll get back to it some time, after you've run out of stuff to code ;) |
| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
that also raises an important point though: |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
you code because you enjoy either the process or the results thereof, enough so that actually *playing* the game doesn't have as much appeal. |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
that's just as valid and important an activity as anything else really, where the game's concerned. |
| 05:52 |
hmmmm |
for me, i think it's a cross between not being able to play because you see all the flaws and you feel like you need to fix that |
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hmmmm |
and then just not finding it fun anymore |
| 05:52 |
hmmmm |
it's fun when it's somebody elses' responsibility |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
I expect the same holds true for most any project for most coders. The one I am most known for was about 16 years ago, and while it gained me a certain level of notoriety within the community it was aimed at, I didn't actually USE that project that much. |
| 05:54 |
hmmmm |
true that |
| 05:54 |
hmmmm |
unless, of course, you started the project because you needed a tool to accomplish some goal |
| 05:54 |
hmmmm |
which is the case in a lot of my projects |
| 05:54 |
hmmmm |
i still use some programs of mine that i wrote when i was 16 in wine |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 05:55 |
hmmmm |
because back then i never even thought about portability |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
I have dozens of little scripts that are all the result of exactly that - just write a tool that does the job so I don't have to do things the hard way |
| 05:55 |
hmmmm |
i did all sorts of nice things like *(short)(foo + strlen(foo) - 2) = ',' to append a comma onto the end of a string for example :X |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
(I haven't done any compiled/assembled code in a very long time, aside from the recent patches to the engine you helped me with) |
| 05:56 |
hmmmm |
and then i had quite a time when i needed that program to run on SPARC |
| 05:56 |
hmmmm |
you should definitely do more |
| 05:56 |
hmmmm |
it gets easier as you become more familiar with the source |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
I will. Just gotta familiarize myself with the engine |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
yeah, it'll get easier as I get more into it. |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
in the meantime, I'm getting signals from various places (brain, body, husband) saying it's time to sleep. Perhaps I should heed said signals. :-) |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
hmmmm indeed.... 1am |
| 05:58 |
hmmmm |
i have school tomorrow |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
I have a sizable road trip ahead of me tomorrow... |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
(not as much time spent as school, but for me it's 10x as nerve wracking :-) ) |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
so I |
| 05:59 |
hmmmm |
last day of classes for me - actually two of the four are already finished |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
cool - time to celebrate a little then :-) |
| 05:59 |
hmmmm |
still need to do some projects, then finals should be easy, and then i'm freeeeeeeee to minetest 24/7 |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
so anyway, I'm off to bed. Night :-) |
| 06:00 |
hmmmm |
night |
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ShiftyCake |
hello |
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ShiftyCake |
Hello |
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ShiftyCake |
Hello |
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khonkhortisan |
hello |
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Calinou |
hi |
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ShiftyCake |
i'm getting kubuntu do you know how i can save on my usb instead of burning? |
| 06:09 |
ShiftyCake |
I have downloaded it and it installed expressburn |
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Calinou |
ShiftyCake: unetbootin |
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Calinou |
(might not work for distros not based on ubuntu) |
| 06:12 |
Calinou |
if it's not based on ubuntu then use dd, which is a command line tool |
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Calinou |
(data destructor :D be very careful when using it) |
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Calinou |
http://unetbootin.sf.net |
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moltenbot |
Calinou's link: UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads |
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ShiftyCake |
The general procedure to install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive is: Acquire the correct Ubuntu installation files ('the ISO') Put Ubuntu onto your USB flash drive Configure your computer to boot from USB flash drive and boot from it Try Ubuntu or install it to your hard drive. |
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ShiftyCake |
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick |
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moltenbot |
ShiftyCake's link: Installation/FromUSBStick - Community Ubuntu Documentation |
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Hello |
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devlab |
Hi, why does gravel have creepy sounds? |
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khonkhortisan |
didn't notice |
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devlab |
What does it mean when there is a lot of gravel in one spot? |
| 06:35 |
NakedFury |
nothing |
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khonkhortisan |
that's just how it generates |
| 06:35 |
NakedFury |
just the extremely weird way gravel generates |
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khonkhortisan |
it does mean something if you have a shallow pond in sand; look for clay. |
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khonkhortisan |
I've dug down through rock and found a vein of gravel and sand. Blame the dinosaurs. |
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devlab |
almost 2 stacks? |
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khonkhortisan |
more |
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devlab |
how much more? |
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khonkhortisan |
I didn't clear the whole thing, it's still on gameboom |
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khonkhortisan |
Can two people be in the same cart? |
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devlab |
i just got over 100 tin |
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devlab |
i have almost 4 stacks of coal, what the? |
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devlab |
is there a mod that adds clocks? |
| 06:50 |
NakedFury |
minecraft style clocks? |
| 06:51 |
NakedFury |
no either way |
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khonkhortisan |
hehe I could make a game out of static art screens, rail, and pistons to connect rails to change screens. |
| 06:51 |
ShiftyCake |
yes there is |
| 06:51 |
ShiftyCake |
there is clock |
| 06:51 |
ShiftyCake |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=807 |
| 06:51 |
moltenbot |
ShiftyCake's link: [Mod] Clock [clock] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 06:52 |
NakedFury |
wow |
| 06:52 |
NakedFury |
must have missed that one |
| 06:52 |
NakedFury |
but cant blame me it was in january 13 |
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cy1 |
anybody around? |
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ShiftyCake |
yep |
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cy1 |
Aqua: come check out the thingy I built at my place! |
| 06:55 |
cy1 |
it's like my old spirally stair, but I did it right this time |
| 06:55 |
Aqua_ |
what server? |
| 06:55 |
cy1 |
verge.info.tm port 6989 |
| 06:56 |
Calinou |
gpg --encrypt spirally_stair |
| 06:56 |
Calinou |
there, you can now see it |
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Aqua |
ok |
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cy1 |
gpg was friggin hard to jury rig into minetest |
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khonkhortisan |
good privacy good? |
| 06:57 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: heh. GNU Privacy Guard |
| 06:57 |
khonkhortisan |
as opposed to pretty good privacy |
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cy1 |
Yeah. |
| 07:04 |
cy1 |
It's a play on acronyms. |
| 07:04 |
cy1 |
GPG is PGP |
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Aqua_ |
Anyone? |
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khonkhortisan |
you gained your _ again |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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markveidemanis |
HI |
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Aqua_ |
someone already used Aqua |
| 07:18 |
cy1 |
Aqua_: what? |
| 07:18 |
ShiftyCake |
Can anyone help me? |
| 07:18 |
cy1 |
I don't know. It depends on your question. |
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khonkhortisan |
Is it wise to help a shifty cake? |
| 07:19 |
ShiftyCake |
I need help with lua |
| 07:19 |
cy1 |
So do I. |
| 07:19 |
cy1 |
That is however, not a qustion |
| 07:19 |
Calinou |
haha |
| 07:19 |
Calinou |
ShiftyCake: just ask |
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khonkhortisan |
markveidemanis, Hey, I'm in! |
| 07:20 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. wrong server. |
| 07:20 |
markveidemanis |
shall i keep moreblocks |
| 07:20 |
ShiftyCake |
I completely screwed up my protectorplus mod none of it is working now :( |
| 07:20 |
cy1 |
ok step 1) remove protect blocks |
| 07:21 |
cy1 |
step 2) set up regular backups |
| 07:21 |
cy1 |
off-site if possible |
| 07:21 |
khonkhortisan |
github counts as off-site |
| 07:21 |
cy1 |
step 3) take away interact from griefers |
| 07:21 |
cy1 |
problem slolved. |
| 07:21 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: you can put map.sqlite on github? o_O |
| 07:22 |
khonkhortisan |
maybe in its uncompressed form |
| 07:22 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. /me missed the name change |
| 07:22 |
markveidemanis |
khonkhortisan:86.142.237.3 |
| 07:24 |
ShiftyCake |
might as well completely rewrite |
| 07:25 |
markveidemanis |
too long to load media? |
| 07:25 |
khonkhortisan |
♬ I'm falling ♩ from a ♪ sliver in the sky ♫ |
| 07:25 |
markveidemanis |
let me remove moreblocks... |
| 07:25 |
ShiftyCake |
whats that? |
| 07:25 |
khonkhortisan |
markv's server looks like a modified skyblock |
| 07:25 |
ShiftyCake |
khonkkhortisan: whats that? |
| 07:26 |
khonkhortisan |
skyblock? |
| 07:26 |
khonkhortisan |
or the music notes? |
| 07:27 |
cy1 |
markveidemanis: port? |
| 07:28 |
markveidemanis |
30000 |
| 07:28 |
cy1 |
gotit |
| 07:28 |
ShiftyCake |
nvrmind |
| 07:29 |
cy1 |
I figured out how to reset parts of the map using sqlite3 <3 |
| 07:34 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: lag? |
| 07:34 |
cy1 |
oh, his server died |
| 07:34 |
khonkhortisan |
cy1, corrupted double-linked list |
| 07:35 |
cy1 |
khonkhortisan: oh noes glibc up in your house |
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markveidemanis_ |
hi, sorry- crashed |
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khonkhortisan |
hello markveidemanis, markveidemanis_ |
| 07:36 |
khonkhortisan |
server up? |
| 07:37 |
markveidemanis_ |
ye |
| 07:37 |
markveidemanis_ |
p |
| 07:37 |
markveidemanis_ |
i gtg |
| 07:38 |
markveidemanis_ |
vye |
| 07:38 |
markveidemanis_ |
bye |
| 07:40 |
cy1 |
yeah there's a server admin worth remembering... |
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ShiftyCake |
Hello\ |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
can someone plz send me the lyrics to "minecraft style"? |
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markveidemanis |
"HI? |
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Matsetes |
Hi |
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Matsetes |
The new version crashes every times... |
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* OldCoder |
will return in a few hours |
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cy1 |
VanessaE: hey I was trying your textures, and set texture_path = /... in my minetest.conf file, but when I connect to a server it still uses the old textures. |
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cy1 |
oh, it's only the server that can set textures... |
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cy1 |
or, wait no that doesn't work either... |
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cy1 |
No, only the CLIENT has texture_path! |
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cy1 |
nehh I can get the Vanessa menu, but then it just crashes w/ bad_alloc |
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cy1 |
haha yeah those huge textures take 1.2 gig and then my computer is like NOPE |
| 09:51 |
cy1 |
yayyy it workss |
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cy1 |
OH GOD IT'S HIDEOUS |
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Matsetes |
Someone knows the farming mod? |
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cy1 |
nice water texture, actually |
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cy1 |
Matsetes: hoe dirt for seeds and plant on it. Must be near water. |
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Matsetes |
Yes, cy1, but wasn'it a way to craft the pumpkins into something eatable |
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Matsetes |
? |
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brobostigon |
good morning everyone, |
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thexyz |
should we move this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598 back to "modding general" as it currently doesn't fit guidelines? |
| 11:00 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: [Modpack] MM2 [moved] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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Taoki |
Yay, MineTest is 0.4.4 on the openSUSE repositories too :) |
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markveidemanis |
hello |
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markveidemanis |
HI |
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devlab |
Huh? i found some clay |
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devlab |
Taoki: What repository? |
| 12:05 |
Taoki |
devlab: The official game repository for openSUSE |
| 12:08 |
devlab |
the games OBS repo? |
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Taoki |
OBS? |
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Taoki |
brb |
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devlab |
hey Celeron |
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zloy |
hello guys |
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zloy |
I want to compile the latest release of the minetest, but I receive the following problem: http://paste2.org/p/2585393 |
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moltenbot |
zloy's link: Paste2 - Viewing Paste 2585393 |
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zloy |
could somebody help me with it? |
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zloy |
the problem is in openal library, am I right? |
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thexyz |
yes |
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zloy |
ok, it compiled successfully, but from the game I received the following: http://paste2.org/p/2585429 |
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moltenbot |
zloy's link: Paste2 - Viewing Paste 2585429 |
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markveidemanis |
HI |
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markveidemanis |
thexyz |
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thexyz |
hello |
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markveidemanis |
how do i make my ip stay the same if it changes? i dont really know how to explain |
| 13:36 |
thexyz |
you can't |
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thexyz |
though you can use some service like no-ip.org |
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thexyz |
*no-ip.com |
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thexyz |
any dynamic DNS provider should be fine |
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markveidemanis |
what is it called?, something like dynamic ip? |
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markveidemanis |
ok |
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markveidemanis |
anyone got some of the new mods? |
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devlab |
haha, i cleaned a cave of its resources, and it was a big cave |
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markveidemanis |
what new things does the building blocks add compared to the older release |
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markveidemanis |
HELLO? |
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devlab |
what's the point of Desert Stone? |
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STHGOM |
allo mates! |
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STHGOM |
Hello! |
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devlab |
sup? |
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STHGOM |
Im going to animate somthing in blender? |
| 14:20 |
STHGOM |
Im going to talk with you? |
| 14:20 |
STHGOM |
:D |
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KikaRz |
Ohai! |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE, you there? |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam, your boats got more handling? |
| 14:23 |
KikaRz |
thats because in my track, i cant make a 90º rotation (in a curve of my track) |
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KikaRz |
OldCoder is off? Whyy? |
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KikaRz |
he is never offline |
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STHGOM |
if anyone wants me say STHGOM |
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KikaRz |
STHGOM is gay. |
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KikaRz |
xd |
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KikaRz |
IT's the Final Countdown! |
| 14:40 |
KikaRz |
(tadunino.... taduninana... taduninoooo... taduninono |
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KikaRz |
:P |
| 14:41 |
Final |
... |
| 14:41 |
Final |
Seriously? |
| 14:41 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 14:41 |
KikaRz |
the world finishes at 2012/12/21 |
| 14:41 |
KikaRz |
so... |
| 14:41 |
KikaRz |
we make a final countdown |
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KikaRz |
'-' |
| 14:41 |
Final |
To be all meta and cool beans; I've lost count of how many times I've lost count of people making that pun. |
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STHGOM |
:D |
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NekoGloop |
XD |
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KikaRz |
XD |
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KikaRz |
I'm too good for things. |
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KikaRz |
like... |
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KikaRz |
building, planning and discovering |
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KikaRz |
(demolishing is just for my enemies) |
| 14:48 |
KikaRz |
so NekoGloop, how are you? |
| 14:50 |
KikaRz |
OMG |
| 14:50 |
KikaRz |
I WAS ALMOST WRITTING HERE MY PASS |
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KikaRz |
MINETEST WASNT FOCUSED |
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KikaRz |
how copper rails work? |
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KikaRz |
hi sfan5 |
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KikaRz |
sfan5, now i dont need your windows builds.- |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 15:41 |
KikaRz |
hi PilzAdam |
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KikaRz |
How Copper rails work? |
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sfan5 |
KikaRz: why? |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam, im building now a mix of train |
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KikaRz |
sfan5, im now linux user |
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sfan5 |
oh ,nice! |
| 15:41 |
KikaRz |
:) |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam, can you tell me how they work? |
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NekoGloop |
now you use the second worst OS? |
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PilzAdam |
KikaRz, this question doesnt make sense |
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thexyz |
NekoGloop: what is the first one? |
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NekoGloop |
thexyz: Mac |
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thexyz |
and the third..? |
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NekoGloop |
Windows |
| 15:44 |
NekoGloop |
Windows > Linux > Mac |
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thexyz |
sure |
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thexyz |
except that linux is kernel |
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PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, you know that Microsoft copied code from Apple? |
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NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: yeah, the only good part of their code |
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KikaRz |
NekoGloop |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
fuck you.ç |
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KikaRz |
your windows its the worst |
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thexyz |
celeron55: time to change antispam questions once again |
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KikaRz |
ok |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
i give a idea. |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam is... ? |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
a) a minetest user |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
b ) a pro programmer |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
c ) both |
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NekoGloop |
Mushroom guy |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz |
no |
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KikaRz |
and d) mushroom guy |
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KikaRz |
xd |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
celeron55 is... |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
a) the minetest creator |
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KikaRz |
b) the pizza boy |
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KikaRz |
c) Jeb's copy |
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NekoGloop |
b) a horrible programmer |
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PilzAdam |
b) would be nice |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
d) horrible programmer |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
now bye |
| 15:47 |
KikaRz |
hasta 45 min |
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Penguin |
hi |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi all, just stopping by for a bit. |
| 15:51 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
| 15:52 |
Penguin |
who made the industrial mod |
| 15:53 |
VanessaE |
I will be leaving from here for a couple of days, the test server will be offline until I return (probability of thunderstorms). |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
Penguin: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=692 |
| 15:54 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [Mod] Industrial Mod [0.0.7] [industrial] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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Zeg9_ |
Hello |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
hi zeg9 |
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STHGOM |
hi Zeg9 |
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kaeza |
hello |
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Jordach |
hey all |
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Zeg9 |
Hello |
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Jordach |
in about two hours, please do not HIGHLIGHT ME |
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* Jordach |
hates iOS6, Y U REMOVE YOUTUBE! |
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FreeFull |
Solution: never, ever use apple |
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Jordach |
FreeFull - better than the easy fall apart androids |
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Jordach |
(i dont count the SGS1/2/3) |
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Calinou |
* Jordach hates iOS6, Y U REMOVE YOUTUBE! |
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Calinou |
also, fun maps app! |
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Jordach |
yeah |
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Calinou |
makes underwater cars possible |
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Calinou |
also, farms in airports |
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Jordach |
they made a new shiny section called: Map Apps |
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* Jordach |
does not see GMAPS there |
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Calinou |
maps.google.com says so |
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Calinou |
it's more limited than the old maps app though |
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Jordach |
(in laymans terms, i held back the update until GMAPs and YoutTube came out) |
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Jordach |
5.1.1 FTW |
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Jordach |
they say a loading bar stops working when you look at it |
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* Jordach |
can hear the rain coming down the chimney |
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thexyz |
any iOS device is useless without jailbreak |
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Jordach |
bullshit |
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Jordach |
"it does what i want it to" |
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* Jordach |
hates bricking devices |
| 16:47 |
Jordach |
and voiding warranty |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
you can't jailbreak your own device |
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Jordach |
thexyz - i would, but i dont want to be forced to fix all the shit it causes |
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Jordach |
Linux User: "If it works, fuck with it until it breaks, fix it until said thing works, repeat." |
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markveidemanis |
HELP |
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markveidemanis |
i need to make a nodebox |
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markveidemanis |
and failing |
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Penguin |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
i need to register a node box with the wood texture |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
modder?, help |
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babyface1031 |
hi Penguin |
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VanessaE |
bbl, time to head out. Back in two days (or slightly less). |
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Penguin |
baby is this the one http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 16:53 |
moltenbot |
Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, have you read this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2333 ? |
| 16:54 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Basic node_box model examples (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
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babyface1031 |
OldCoder: hi can you look into the industry mod i have it on my single player and it is really neat http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
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moltenbot |
babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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_MiJyn_ |
bbl |
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MiJyn |
hi |
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babyface1031 |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
who will help me with my mod???? |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE... |
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KikaRz |
markveidemanis, i dont. |
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KikaRz |
hi babyface1031 |
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KikaRz |
its vanessaE servero n? |
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KikaRz |
*on |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam |
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KikaRz |
do you have a server? |
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markveidemanis |
PilzAdam... |
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markveidemanis |
yep |
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KikaRz |
i can make some races of boat and cart |
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* PilzAdam |
doesnt have a server |
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KikaRz |
ok... |
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KikaRz |
:/ |
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KikaRz |
but |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE's server is on? |
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markveidemanis |
idk |
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KikaRz |
... |
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KikaRz |
stupid |
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KikaRz |
PilzAdam, is VanessaE's server is on? |
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PilzAdam |
why are you asking me? |
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Jordach |
anyone want this texture pack converted for personal use? http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/64x132-dragon-dance-cartoon-rpg/ |
| 17:37 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: [64x][1.4.2] Dragon Dance, Cartoon RPG- Now supports Tekkit! Minecraft Texture Pack |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
no :P |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
Calinou - looks really nice |
| 17:39 |
* Jordach |
almost had a heart attack when jordach used it for the first time |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Because you're the owner of Boats mod (PilzAdam) |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Tekkit? |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
what tekkit? |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Calinou |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! |
| 17:43 |
KikaRz |
Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
:@ |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
but anyways |
| 17:44 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: dannydark (DannyDark) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix glass step sound 4763fa635a 2012-12-10T09:43:12-08:00 |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
i want that texture |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
cool... a git hub bot. |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
first time that i see it |
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| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
Who is DannyDark? |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
Yea! |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
john_minetest - i meant diy |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
And it's for Minecraft. |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, i merged a commit of him |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
who is dannydark , PilzAdam? |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
i did convert feathersong for InfinityProject just for him |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
possibly |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
thats if minetest gets any faster XD |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, you may want to ask yourself who KikaRz is |
| 17:46 |
KikaRz |
Its me |
| 17:46 |
KikaRz |
Francizca Rodriguéz. |
| 17:46 |
KikaRz |
(not spanish, but i born in spain. i live in portugal) |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
ty4name |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
why do you want it? |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
its ficticional |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
well, my real name is... (i cant share with you.) |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
BUT my gender is female |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
| 17:48 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 17:48 |
KikaRz |
Calinou wanted my name |
| 17:48 |
KikaRz |
so... |
| 17:50 |
KikaRz |
2012 Retrospective. |
| 17:50 |
KikaRz |
http://br.noticias.yahoo.com/retrospectiva-2012-top-10-v%C3%ADdeos-da-web-005917042.html |
| 17:50 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Retrospectiva 2012 - Top 10 videos da web - Yahoo! Noticias |
| 17:51 |
KikaRz |
TOp 10 of more viewed videos |
| 17:51 |
KikaRz |
of web |
| 17:51 |
KikaRz |
1 - Gangnam Style |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
true story |
| 17:55 |
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| 17:56 |
babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
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| 17:59 |
* Jordach |
hates the slow USB.2.0 connection for Syncing |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
who cares about USB 3 |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
like wifi n, I didn't change my USB drives/external HDDs/routers when usb 3 came |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
and my desktop, from early 2012 does not support USB 3 |
| 18:00 |
* Jordach |
enters rage by clicking a link which opens IE |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
6 |
| 18:01 |
thexyz |
he probably have never heard about usb 1 |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
thexyz - ask windows, thats what it thinks the ipad2 uses |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
since when the ipad has USB |
| 18:03 |
* Calinou |
starts rumor: the ipad 5 will have USB port! |
| 18:03 |
thexyz |
Jordach: do you have ipad2? |
| 18:04 |
thexyz |
what do you use it for? |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
personal use |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
tablets are overrated |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
my netbook beats an ipad 4 at glxgears, iOS can't run glxgears... |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
Calinou - Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
or the Google Nexus 7 / 10 |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
at least they can run xscreensaver, http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/06/i-have-ported-xscreensaver-to-the-iphone/ |
| 18:06 |
thexyz |
s/Tab/Tab 2/ |
| 18:06 |
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| 18:06 |
Jordach |
oh gosh this headset is uncomfy |
| 18:06 |
telek |
Calinou: USB3's benefit is in finally being able to utilize multiple usb devices through switches at up to their full bandwidth without slower devices making the whole chain slow. |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
google made a 10" tablet? didn't know ;) |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
telek: yeah, that too |
| 18:07 |
thexyz |
Calinou: what about your netbook batterry's life time? |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
that is the downside, but who ACTUALLY stays away from an electricity source when using a tablet? |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
five mins playing minetest? |
| 18:08 |
thexyz |
Calinou: i do |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
no, about 2.5 hours when playing MT |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
enough by far, and when plugged in it goes from 0% to 100% in like 1 hour |
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| 18:09 |
Calinou |
also, I have a physical keyboard 8D makes it much easier to play MT :P |
| 18:09 |
thexyz |
when travelling, at least |
| 18:09 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
| 18:10 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: You clearly need to buy a laptop, so you can charge your tablet. :) |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
charge it with the power of itself:! |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
-: |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
marktraceur - most tabs dont charge from usb |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
they need 12v+ |
| 18:11 |
Jordach |
not 4.5v |
| 18:11 |
thexyz |
s/most tabs/ipad/ |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
that also works |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
also, soon water will not be endless and then it has to be re pumped up again for more energy |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
(or use a transport tube + pump = energy |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
) |
| 18:13 |
KikaRz |
Gangnam Style... |
| 18:13 |
KikaRz |
almost 1 bilion |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
we know |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Doesn't USB3 or whatever the hell it was provide more power yet? |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
Opa Gaybie bieber. |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
im making my christmas tree |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
<marktraceur> Jordach: Doesn't USB3 or whatever the hell it was provide more power yet? yes, but it could, but my pc is USB2 |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
i use USB3 |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
to use my wireless keyboard and mouse |
| 18:14 |
KikaRz |
and my pen drive |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Well, the statement stands, then. If thexyz gets a laptop with USB3, then he can use his tablet for long periods of time (e.g. plane) |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
who got a server with boat, carts, mesecons, more blocks, more ores, etc? |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
guys |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
in theory yes |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
how i make to my computer dont get bugged? |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
like |
| 18:16 |
telek |
There's a boat mod, or you just mean the raft mod? |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
that black thing |
| 18:16 |
telek |
And what's the status on mining carts now anyways? |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
no, its boat mod |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
ask to PilzAdam |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
my computer gets black |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
with battery something |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
battery lock |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
or something |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
like a glitch |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
but my mouse works |
| 18:17 |
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| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
i guess its from the screen ... (proteção de ecrã) |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
i thought your computer was a desktop... |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
yep it is |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
not laptop |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
its desktop |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
i guess its from screen protection |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
or something |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
that thing that when gets some time... goes black and passes some images |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
etc |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
i just found bullshit in the itunes store! |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
DRM FREE |
| 18:18 |
KikaRz |
what bullshit? |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
not that hard |
| 18:18 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, can you check if the VanessaE's server is on? |
| 18:18 |
* Jordach |
realises that .bmp images are large and slow to upload |
| 18:18 |
PilzAdam |
IP? |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
apple, no DRM, seems legit, I wonder how did they even do that... |
| 18:18 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hi! |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
Jordach: why use bmp when you can use png? |
| 18:19 |
PilzAdam |
!up 24.181.193.82 |
| 18:19 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 24.181.193.82:30000 DOWN |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/fKYIT.png# |
| 18:19 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, seems to be down |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
:/ |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
i cant continue my boat race |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
:'( |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
no serials for me! D: |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
can you host a server for me? to continue it? |
| 18:19 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, the whole Apple thing is bullshit so not hard to find bullshit in bullshit |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
Jordach: btw, google play does the same thing for free if you want to do it... no need to pay |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
can you find a cowpat in bullshit |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
;P |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
changing linux theme |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
Linux is a Kernel |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
how to change a Kernel's theme? |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
poor unity only has 4 themes (with 2 being high contrast) |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
the Ubuntu theme |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
xfce ftw ;D |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
*Kubuntu |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
*xubuntu!!! |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: make it play a different music when booting |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
i know |
| 18:21 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: you know, those penguins who show up during boot |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
so pretty... |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
beautiful... |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
why XChat bar icon got black ... |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
black background? |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
my screensaver was b ugging my pc |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
i guess. |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
fucking disabled. |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
what i do now? |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 18:25 |
PilzAdam |
read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux |
| 18:25 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 18:25 |
KikaRz |
no thanks |
| 18:25 |
KikaRz |
what i do now (without being kernel things) |
| 18:25 |
KikaRz |
*without reading |
| 18:25 |
KikaRz |
FAAAAIL |
| 18:26 |
PilzAdam |
you cant do much if you say you dont want to read |
| 18:26 |
PilzAdam |
you cant play MT |
| 18:29 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, is that too much reading? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7-qnFk_sk |
| 18:29 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: What is Linux? - YouTube |
| 18:31 |
PilzAdam |
if you dont want to read that much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDIW8syi3Y |
| 18:31 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Introduction to Linux Series - What is Linux - YouTube |
| 18:34 |
NakedFury |
is there a 6.0.1 untethered jailbrake icrap user here? |
| 18:35 |
* marktraceur |
is glad there are brakes on the jails in this country |
| 18:37 |
hmmmm |
xchat pseudotransparency is worked around in xfce as of 4.10 |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, if you like eggs with beart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gCwCOhMcog |
| 18:37 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Introduction to Linux - YouTube |
| 18:37 |
hmmmm |
it's actually an Xorg library bug that's never been fixed |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: compositing, slowing down games since 1998(R) |
| 18:42 |
telek |
hmmmm: Not the first bug that hasn't... (Like support for pseudocolor visuals in anything post-Xorg/XFree split) |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
hmmmm: alt+mouse wheel on xchat's window title |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
works for me (when compositing is on) |
| 18:43 |
hmmmm |
calinou, we're talking about xchat's built in pseudotransparency in the main text box, not using the compositor to set the opacity of the entire window |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 18:45 |
markveidemanis |
are you there |
| 18:48 |
devlab |
wow, can seeds be configured? |
| 18:49 |
Taoki |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 I want graphics like this in MineTeeeeeest ;( |
| 18:49 |
moltenbot |
Taoki's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
fixed_map_seed = seed_number_here (eg. 128938) |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
do that before creating a map |
| 18:49 |
Taoki |
and hi :) |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
(put in minetest.conf) |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
hi Taoki |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
hi Taoki |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, is there a way for Lua entities to get attached players? |
| 18:50 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Sure thing. I posted about that in the lua api file, players and lua entities can be attached to either of the two |
| 18:50 |
FreeFull |
Taoki: The performance improvements are really CPU-wise, so it shouldn't really affect how well shaders run |
| 18:50 |
Taoki |
I think it's set_attach(parent, vector position, vector rotation) |
| 18:50 |
Taoki |
Erm no, |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/340 < breaks whole purpose of shaders currently (minus the water) |
| 18:50 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: Make shader-less lighting look better (darken sides instead of brightening top side) by Calinou ? Pull Request #340 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
oh, the question was wrong |
| 18:50 |
Taoki |
set_attach(object parent, string bone, vector position, vector rotation) |
| 18:51 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: ^ |
| 18:51 |
Taoki |
If not attaching to a bone then use "" for bone |
| 18:51 |
devlab |
lol, seed: 829634675458991180 is my current seed, and it's an awesome seed |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
I mean: is there a way for Lua entities to get the players that are attached to it |
| 18:52 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: A function to read children was not added. BVut that should be possible by persisting each player in a list in the lua script when it gets attached |
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| 18:52 |
Taoki |
So when you do set_attach you add that player's name to a list, and when you do set_detach remove it. That should work unless it's a more complicated script and that fails |
| 18:53 |
PilzAdam |
I do it like this |
| 18:53 |
PilzAdam |
I just was looking for a better way to do it |
| 18:53 |
Taoki |
FreeFull: That's good. Performance improvements are needed for the CPU side primarily... since even before shaders were in MineTest works very slow with large draw distance |
| 18:53 |
Taoki |
ok. Sadly no such function so no |
| 18:54 |
NakedFury |
what are the future plans for equipment in minetest? any idea? |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, just want to clear things: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/commit/6611c74bda5ffff8b50bd4c0a9dc88d32bd70598 |
| 18:55 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Remove a TODO ? 6611c74 ? PilzAdam/carts ? GitHub |
| 18:55 |
Taoki |
Well, you can hold items in your hand, and eventually there will be support for armor. Don't know about anything else |
| 18:55 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: What does that line do? |
| 18:56 |
PilzAdam |
it stores the driver of the cart |
| 18:57 |
Taoki |
oh, ok. Yeah I think that will remain needed |
| 18:57 |
Taoki |
To store it in lua |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
back |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
my christmas tree is done |
| 19:01 |
KikaRz |
who can make a brightness system for minetest? |
| 19:01 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What did you baste it with? |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
baste? |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
the mining its too dificult |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
without loight |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
*light |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
(not with torches |
| 19:04 |
PilzAdam |
there is a brightness system in Minetest |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
wh ere? |
| 19:05 |
PilzAdam |
everywhere |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
not that |
| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Do you mean wielded light sources? |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
a brightness adjuster |
| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
Oh. Christ. |
| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: It's called your monitor settings. |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
f* |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
i cant put brightness to 100 |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
its at 70% |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
more than that... |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
(OH, MY EYES! |
| 19:07 |
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| 19:07 |
telek |
Heh |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
going to play |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
which server i should use |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
OH! TELEK! YOURE BACK! |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
*__* |
| 19:07 |
PilzAdam |
localhost |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH |
| 19:07 |
* telek |
snickers :D |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, i hate singleplayer. |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
,making a massage to my cat |
| 19:07 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I suppose you could change your default mod to emit light at a low level from *every node*, but that would get annoying |
| 19:08 |
telek |
I made a comment earlier and you didn't even notice :D |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
nope , |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
that was too much to see |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
telek |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
may i create a server to our two? |
| 19:08 |
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| 19:09 |
KikaRz |
i forgot Muadtalk's server |
| 19:09 |
KikaRz |
i forgot Muadtr*alk's server |
| 19:09 |
telek |
Does lightin start out black, or does it start out at some offset value based on the current time of day? |
| 19:09 |
KikaRz |
??? |
| 19:09 |
telek |
kikarz: minetest.sytes.net 30004, but it was down last time I tried. |
| 19:10 |
telek |
Erm 30001 |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
Oh |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder is offline |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
what happened with him? :'( |
| 19:10 |
telek |
OC? |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
he's the hoster |
| 19:10 |
telek |
He said soemthing about being gone for a week, I think. |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
ok, go to m13's server |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
m13.servegame.com:30001 |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
idk if its 0.4.4 |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
Lucky guy |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
Not having to deal with Minetest people. |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
Why do I keep coming back here? |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com |
| 19:11 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000 DOWN |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
not 30000 |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
its 30001 |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com:30001 |
| 19:11 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001:30000 DOWN |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
fail |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com 30001 |
| 19:11 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001 DOWN |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
its down? |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
but im joining |
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khonkhortisan |
!up m13.servegame.com 30001! |
| 19:11 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP |
| 19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
haha |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, builtin/item.lua line 403: change 0 to 14 |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
! ? |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
ah |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
server |
| 19:11 |
khonkhortisan |
sudo tell me it's up |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
server versions |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder??? |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
I am not gone! |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
at all! |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
YAAAAAY! |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
A month ago I said a week away |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
I don't think that will happen |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
so? |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
To the contrary 0.4.4 updates happen this week |
| 19:12 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Hi :) |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Hi! |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
where is your stupid OP? |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
kidding, its not stupid |
| 19:13 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Did you manage to integrate levelDB with 0.4.4 so you can update your server to the latest changes? |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
I will turn it on later |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, thexyz and RealBadAngel have helped with that |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
So, yes |
| 19:13 |
Taoki |
Awesome! |
| 19:13 |
telek |
OC: Oh, I thought you'd just said that a day or two ago. |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
Everything is expected to work out |
| 19:13 |
Taoki |
Nice to see how europe.minetest.org looks with player models :) |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
telek, thanks... I don't recall saying it. But presently I am busy and not away at all. |
| 19:14 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, You will see, to be sure |
| 19:14 |
OldCoder |
And I will build clients |
| 19:14 |
OldCoder |
My understanding is that network speed may improve too |
| 19:14 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: A little. I added a change so players who are perfectly still use no bandwidth |
| 19:14 |
OldCoder |
I *did* sleep late today |
| 19:15 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, yes. Is that integrated into upstream or is there a pull I should patch in? |
| 19:15 |
Taoki |
Like only send position to the server when someching changes locally (either the player moved, looked in another direction, or pressed / unpressed a new key |
| 19:15 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 19:15 |
Taoki |
Previously all players were sending data, now idle players will make things cheaper |
| 19:15 |
Taoki |
It is before 0.4.4 |
| 19:15 |
Taoki |
So that means it's in |
| 19:15 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
who got a boats, mesecons, rails, carts, technic (if possible), moreblocks and others? |
| 19:16 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: You do! |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
yea, offline. |
| 19:17 |
marktraceur |
Not if you give out your IP! |
| 19:17 |
Taoki |
marktraceur: Hi |
| 19:17 |
telek |
Lol @ mt |
| 19:17 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: Howdy, what's up? |
| 19:17 |
Taoki |
marktraceur: How is that campaign to raise funds for MineTest going? I assume not too well from what I seen :( |
| 19:17 |
Taoki |
Not much |
| 19:17 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: Yeah, I sort of let it fizzle. People don't seem into it. |
| 19:17 |
KikaRz |
give me that mod pack |
| 19:18 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Oh. 0.4.4 also has a congestion management code, which should make logins faster. Still slow for me to connect to europe.minetest.org but otherwise it is faster |
| 19:18 |
* Taoki |
nods |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
im not with patience to install them all |
| 19:18 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: I'm optimistic that with multiple games, a wider method of advertisement, and support from others, it would be more possible to successfully complete a campaign. I just can't do that right now. |
| 19:18 |
Taoki |
yeah, that would be nice |
| 19:19 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I look forward to trying it |
| 19:20 |
Taoki |
Heh, I can tell celeron55 is also from Europe. The minetest forum is extremely fast for me (I click refresh and it instantly reloads, nearly like a local page) |
| 19:20 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Alwo, we have shaders! They aren't used for a lot but soon we might have detailed post-processing and visuals :D |
| 19:20 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 19:21 |
Taoki |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 I wanna se MineTest look like this! |
| 19:21 |
moltenbot |
Taoki's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, This still reverts to 2D if there are no 3D models. Correct? |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
I wish to keep some worlds with the fun 2D drawings |
| 19:21 |
thexyz |
minetest.net is hosted in Hetzner, Germany |
| 19:21 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Yes. A lua script sets players to 3D. If not it uses the old ones |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
Thank you |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
player*.lua IIRC |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
But that script is default in minetest_game with the default player mesh |
| 19:22 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 19:22 |
KikaRz |
that are minecraft pics |
| 19:22 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 |
| 19:22 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
Yes, the script is player.lua. If you want the old players you can simply remove it, nothing sets the 3D players then |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
Hope you keep them on europe.minetest.org and minetest.org though |
| 19:22 |
Taoki |
KikaRz: I know. But I'd like to see something similar in MT |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_gZr8n3_s&list=PLDD96697C6463DBCE&index=2 |
| 19:23 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Optimus - Aldeia Global - Pastor - YouTube |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
Thats funny |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
Anda barrinha (go on bar ) |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
that ads bar |
| 19:23 |
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| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
on youtube |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
wow, working with mito551 for a lets play was really good |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
cachopo = boy |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
Hey, i can participate too ? *_* |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
but no mic |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
xd |
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KikaRz |
markveidemanis. |
| 19:28 |
markveidemanis |
yes? |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
> cd .. |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
> half |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
> halt |
| 19:28 |
KikaRz |
> cd minetest |
| 19:28 |
markveidemanis |
? |
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KikaRz |
insert that commands :P |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
Hi Penguin |
| 19:29 |
Penguin |
hi |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
your game sucks. |
| 19:29 |
markveidemanis |
ive already complled |
| 19:29 |
Penguin |
Mine? |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
Yea. Super Tux 2. |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
0.3.3 |
| 19:29 |
Penguin |
Me? |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
you're tux |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, should I fork simple_mods to have 3d monsters? |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
or not? |
| 19:29 |
Penguin |
No? |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
s/mods/mobs |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
you will be rested. |
| 19:30 |
KikaRz |
by unpersonification |
| 19:30 |
KikaRz |
http://www.transformice.com/?salon=392392 |
| 19:30 |
KikaRz |
i love that |
| 19:30 |
Penguin |
Link Me TO Good Mods People |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
mesecon.tk |
| 19:31 |
Penguin |
Naa Have it any more |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I will merge it if its good |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
it will be the sand, stone, dirt and dungeon masters using the character model |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
ok, so... |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
Boats mod. |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
(maybe the oerkki?) |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
the character model? |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
oerkki sucks. |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
why not create a new model? |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
i prefer Creeper. |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
because the monsters were the player skin before |
| 19:33 |
Penguin |
like to monster mod that works please |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
i can create some textures. |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
problem is oerkki... |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
or not. |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
we can make 3d textures in transparent |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
or not? |
| 19:34 |
Penguin |
Link to Mobs Mod That works please |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
Penguin, i prefer Boats mod. |
| 19:34 |
telek |
Penguin: Is there one? :D |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
yes |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
there is |
| 19:35 |
Penguin |
link |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
simple_mobs |
| 19:35 |
telek |
I kept getting crashes with either of the mob mods out there. |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
search |
| 19:35 |
KikaRz |
google is for that. |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=simple_mobs+Minetest+Forum |
| 19:36 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Let me google that for you |
| 19:37 |
Penguin |
lol |
| 19:37 |
KikaRz |
Or just enter: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=40 / https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/wiki / https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/zipball/master |
| 19:37 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: View mod - Simple Mobs - Minetest Extensions |
| 19:37 |
KikaRz |
3 sites |
| 19:37 |
KikaRz |
you happy? |
| 19:39 |
KikaRz |
who can give me youtube music downloader? |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
apt-get install minitube |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
or... ? |
| 19:40 |
telek |
kikarz: movgrab or youtube-dl |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
Thank you telek. |
| 19:40 |
telek |
Not graphical though |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
can i download the 3 ? |
| 19:40 |
telek |
Is minitube graphial? |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
i know telek |
| 19:40 |
telek |
Yep |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 19:40 |
PilzAdam |
telek, MiniTube has a GUI |
| 19:40 |
telek |
apt-get install movgrab youtube-dl minitube |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
fuck this terminal |
| 19:40 |
telek |
PilzAdam: Neat. |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
its actually a "client" for youtube |
| 19:41 |
telek |
Ahh neat. |
| 19:41 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, telek Read the credits for movgrab |
| 19:41 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 19:41 |
OldCoder |
<--- Is in the credits |
| 19:42 |
telek |
kikarz: Every time someone using a *nix curses the terminal, another virgin nerd dies. |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
ill not download movgrab |
| 19:42 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 19:42 |
OldCoder |
Thought you mentioned movgrab as opposed to minitube |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
telek, no problem |
| 19:42 |
OldCoder |
My mistake; I contributed to one but not the other |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
not my problem |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
it was youtube |
| 19:42 |
telek |
OC: Ahh. |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
*terminal |
| 19:42 |
telek |
Ahh ok :D |
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KikaRz |
E: Não foi possÃvel encontrar o pacote movgrab |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
better. |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
It couldn't be possible to find the package movgrab |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
cool! |
| 19:43 |
telek |
OldCoder: I did mention movgrab :D I actually don't think I've used it though :) |
| 19:43 |
telek |
And yeah doesn't appear ubuntu has it in it's regular repositories. |
| 19:43 |
OldCoder |
It is Colum's project; pretty good |
| 19:44 |
OldCoder |
He and I have talked about getting it into the repos |
| 19:44 |
OldCoder |
It is easy to build |
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KikaRz |
Hahahah |
| 19:45 |
KikaRz |
one question |
| 19:45 |
KikaRz |
+18. |
| 19:45 |
KikaRz |
who wants to answer me |
| 19:45 |
KikaRz |
go in quot |
| 19:45 |
KikaRz |
there are kids here |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Was there a question in there? |
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| 19:46 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 19:47 |
KikaRz |
kids, put your hands in your eyes. |
| 19:47 |
KikaRz |
this gonna be deadly |
| 19:47 |
KikaRz |
<MiJyn> whats the question? |
| 19:47 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 19:47 |
MiJyn |
if it's inappropriate, don't even ask it |
| 19:47 |
MiJyn |
if it isn't, why don't you ask it? |
| 19:48 |
PilzAdam |
remember how this channel is called |
| 19:48 |
MiJyn |
yes exactly |
| 19:48 |
telek |
Random question: Who here would apply online to a job over an unencrypted link?\ |
| 19:48 |
telek |
IE http instead of https, not like vpn or something. |
| 19:48 |
marktraceur |
telek: Seems like a terrible idea. |
| 19:48 |
MiJyn |
telek, depends how critical the information is... if everyone knows the info you are about to give, then why not |
| 19:49 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: You usually need to include....well, everything |
| 19:49 |
telek |
Yeah. I haven't seen SSN required yet, but it's a 5 page app and you can't skip between pages. |
| 19:49 |
MiJyn |
oh |
| 19:49 |
telek |
SSN is the american tax ID, but it's used for *EVERYTHING* |
| 19:49 |
MiJyn |
ask them if there is an SSL version of it |
| 19:50 |
telek |
john_minetest: Most places don't even accept paper apps anymore. |
| 19:50 |
telek |
MiJyn: Nope, it's the web administration port :) |
| 19:51 |
MiJyn |
telek, oh |
| 19:51 |
telek |
john_minetest: Yep. Only place in the past 5ish years that has had a paper app was 7-11 |
| 19:51 |
telek |
Oh wait, and Taco Bell. |
| 19:51 |
telek |
But given how many apps they 'lost' on me.... |
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| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
my linux had a problem |
| 19:53 |
telek |
PEBKAC. |
| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
not LINUX |
| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
ITS XUBUNTU! |
| 19:53 |
telek |
Lol. |
| 19:53 |
telek |
The problem has been diagnosed as 'PEBKAC'. |
| 19:53 |
telek |
Please google :) |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What happened? Kernel panic? |
| 19:54 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:54 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What was the problem? |
| 19:55 |
KikaRz |
lmgtfy.com/?q=PEBKAC+problem |
| 19:55 |
khonkhortisan |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEBKAC+problem |
| 19:55 |
moltenbot |
khonkhortisan's link: Let me google that for you |
| 19:55 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: That doesn't answer my question |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
it searches me it |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
mother... |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
GRRRR |
| 19:56 |
khonkhortisan |
what problem did xubuntu have? |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
PEBKAC ("Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair") |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
when my pc lags |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
and starts processing faster |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
it breaks |
| 19:57 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: "breaks" is not very exact. What happens? |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
i cant move mouse / keyboard etc |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
it freezes. |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
then, when it goes back |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
its like, nothing happened |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
the Net goes down |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
magic SysRQ |
| 19:58 |
telek |
kikarz: Laptop or Desktop? |
| 19:58 |
KikaRz |
Laptop |
| 19:58 |
KikaRz |
its frequent |
| 19:58 |
KikaRz |
in this pc |
| 19:58 |
telek |
Try blowing in the intake vent and see if a bunch of dust floats out. |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
REISUB |
| 19:59 |
PilzAdam |
REISUO |
| 19:59 |
khonkhortisan |
don't breathe it in. It makes me sneeze |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
when i had windows, same happened |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
i opened it |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
and seen a lot of cotton , etc |
| 19:59 |
telek |
If so you need some compressed air, a toothpick (maybe a couple). Shut it down, carefully place toothpicks in the fans so they won't spin (overspinning them can damage the bearings causing them to fail), then blow out with compressed air. |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
already. |
| 19:59 |
khonkhortisan |
I never knew about REISUB |
| 19:59 |
telek |
How recently? |
| 20:00 |
KikaRz |
telek |
| 20:00 |
KikaRz |
since i received it |
| 20:00 |
telek |
Cute, regarding REISUB |
| 20:00 |
KikaRz |
at 1 year ago |
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khonkhortisan |
Is that reisub in my windowmanager's keyboard layout, the text mode layout, or the default one? |
| 20:01 |
telek |
Kikarz: You should clean it out at least quarterly and preferably monthly. |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
already. |
| 20:01 |
telek |
Oh you already did? |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
i did that at 2 weeks ago |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
khonkhortisan |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
While holding those down, type the following keys in order, several seconds apart: REISUB; Computer should reboot. |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
You must be kidding me |
| 20:02 |
telek |
kikarz: Might be the thermal paste drying out then. |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
i didnt added a thermal paste. |
| 20:02 |
telek |
You can get away with ALT-SYSRQ SSS B |
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| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
what away |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 20:02 |
telek |
kikarz: If it's a laptop it still generally has paste between the heatsink and processor. |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
going to add. |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
idk how i add it |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
oh god |
| 20:03 |
telek |
The stuff is only rated for a couple years of operation, so it can dry out and either act as an insulator or simply not transfer heat efficiently (depending on the type.) |
| 20:03 |
* Jordach |
might turn the pc off to check, since jordach has dealt with this before |
| 20:04 |
telek |
?? |
| 20:04 |
telek |
Overheating? |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - good afternoob |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
noon |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
afternoob |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
after it was noob |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
now its nerd |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
telek - my last pc died because of a overclock + no heat paster |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
going to eat soap. |
| 20:05 |
telek |
Jordach ouch. |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
( i hate soap) |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
telek - the p4 gpu helped too |
| 20:05 |
telek |
kikarz: Somebody finally decided to wash out that foul mouth of yours, eh? :D |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
the textures glitched like crazy |
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telek |
Jordach: P4s did that. |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
telek |
| 20:06 |
khonkhortisan_ |
I don't think I did it quite right, but it worked. I'm suprised I didn't know about that |
| 20:06 |
MiJyn |
@telek, I think /ignore is the best way lol |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
i received this pc... at 1 / 2 years ago |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
at 1 / 2 years ago |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
MiJyn - i said that weeks ago |
| 20:06 |
telek |
My parents killed a brand new one I put together for them a few years back in like 6 months to a year thanks to not religiously cleaning the dust out. |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
and this aint twitter |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
it was almsot burning |
| 20:06 |
mauvebic |
my p4 still works |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
it looked like a plane |
| 20:06 |
telek |
Heck same problem is probably going to happen with their current system. |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
it made so much sound |
| 20:06 |
mauvebic |
but ive had to change the PSU, the ram, the hard drive, the graphics card, the BIOS battery, uhm, what else |
| 20:06 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, yeah |
| 20:06 |
khonkhortisan_ |
telek, and I thought _I_ had lots of dust |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
at 9 months, i cleaned it, it was constantly making noise |
| 20:07 |
telek |
Then I'm just going to hook them up with a 60 dollar chinese android adapter for the TV and make them surf on that :D |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
then, before cleaning it... |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
done |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
no more noise |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
and the lags, stopped. |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
brb |
| 20:07 |
telek |
khonkhortisan_: Yeah I've never figured out why, but the place is full of it. |
| 20:07 |
telek |
kikarz: Ok. |
| 20:11 |
khonkhortisan_ |
yuck, sysrq is in qwerty |
| 20:11 |
khonkhortisan_ |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key |
| 20:11 |
moltenbot |
khonkhortisan_'s link: Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 20:13 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Hi |
| 20:16 |
sema4 |
any modding API experts on now? |
| 20:18 |
marktraceur |
sema4: Probably! Ask your question :) |
| 20:19 |
sema4 |
well, i am trying to discern the intended function of paramtype="light" in minetest.register_node() |
| 20:21 |
sema4 |
it seems to be necessary when using nodetype="nodebox" |
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| 20:22 |
sema4 |
otherwise the contents of the nodebox are rendered in black |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
do you need it in a special situation? |
| 20:23 |
sema4 |
well, ideally i do not want to use it, since it seems to cause undersirable lighting effects |
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| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
yea, its kinda annyoing that you have to use it when using nodeboxes |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
but its due to the design of Minetest's lighting system |
| 20:23 |
sema4 |
hmm |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
it's |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
yea |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
and? |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
its with print screen |
| 20:24 |
sema4 |
is it do do with visibility of surfaces within the boundng box? |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
!up minetest.lol.net:30001! |
| 20:24 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.lol.net:30001!:30000 DOWN |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
^ LongyLongName |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
xd |
| 20:24 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
kidding |
| 20:25 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
LOOOL!" |
| 20:25 |
KikaRzSOAPDINNER |
forgot to remove the name |
| 20:25 |
KikaRz |
im back |
| 20:25 |
* marktraceur |
should have ignored her long ago |
| 20:25 |
khonkhortisan |
!up mt1.gameboom.net:30000¡ |
| 20:25 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server mt1.gameboom.net:30000¡:30000 DOWN |
| 20:25 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
| 20:26 |
PilzAdam |
sema4, IIRC, Minetest saves the light at the corners of a node; when using nodeboxes this system cant tell wich boxes have to be lit up |
| 20:26 |
khonkhortisan |
it takes out an exclamation point, but not an upside-down one |
| 20:26 |
KikaRz |
guys |
| 20:26 |
sema4 |
ok that makes sense |
| 20:26 |
KikaRz |
in minitube, how i play videos? |
| 20:26 |
KikaRz |
i need to download them? |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, KikaRz, the correct syntax is: !up IP port |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
downloading all parodys |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
i know pilzadam |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
someone got ! on the end of it |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
with : |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
and worked |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com:30001! |
| 20:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001!:30000 DOWN |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
like taht |
| 20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
it works with !up IP:port! too |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com 30001! |
| 20:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP |
| 20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
that |
| 20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
it worked before |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com 30000! |
| 20:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000! DOWN |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com 30004! |
| 20:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30004! DOWN |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
!up m13.servegame.com 30001! |
| 20:27 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP |
| 20:27 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 20:28 |
KikaRz |
what ! does? |
| 20:28 |
PilzAdam |
sema4, leave as fast as you can; botwar ahead |
| 20:28 |
khonkhortisan |
gets ignored |
| 20:28 |
marktraceur |
Boy, with RealBadAngel, KikaRz, and the bots all ignored, I'm not sure I'll ever see activity in here. |
| 20:29 |
marktraceur |
It's wonderful! |
| 20:29 |
sema4 |
marktraceur: only topical conent! |
| 20:29 |
khonkhortisan |
channels are too quiet to quiet anyone |
| 20:29 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:29 |
KikaRz |
stupid marktraceur. |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
| 20:29 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 20:29 |
KikaRz |
if we ignore everyone in channels... |
| 20:29 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: I would be worried about that if this channel hadn't been a constant source of irritation since the bots and KikaRz joined |
| 20:30 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, ... you too stupid |
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| 20:30 |
KikaRz |
you dont know that i write in keyboard without looking at screen and at it. |
| 20:30 |
KikaRz |
and i dont think in what im goign to write |
| 20:30 |
KikaRz |
thats why |
| 20:31 |
KikaRz |
where are the videos downloadeds of Minitube saved at? |
| 20:32 |
khonkhortisan |
you could download the video directly from youtube |
| 20:32 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 20:32 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. download button. Never mind. |
| 20:32 |
KikaRz |
cant download. |
| 20:33 |
khonkhortisan |
if you have firefox you can |
| 20:34 |
sema4 |
ok so the necessity for 'paramtype="light"' on a nodebox is due to a known behaviour of minetest engine that is not easily fixed at that time; great. so my second question was -- what SHOULD paramtype="light" do on a normal node, does it indicate that the node is a light source? |
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| 20:34 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, hi |
| 20:34 |
Penguin |
hi |
| 20:34 |
KikaRz |
Error downloading http://r12---sn-apn7en7z.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=870QbynnST8&sparams=cp... |
| 20:34 |
KikaRz |
server replied: Forbidden |
| 20:34 |
khonkhortisan |
it was used on mesecon note blocks, and made light pass through them. Building a box of them doesn't make it dark inside. |
| 20:35 |
Penguin |
urm me and baby face want the industral pack on the server its a mod shall i like it ? |
| 20:35 |
KikaRz |
i know making musics |
| 20:35 |
KikaRz |
on note blocks |
| 20:35 |
khonkhortisan |
it sounds like you and baby face like it |
| 20:35 |
KikaRz |
i hate when a noteblock is on top of stone (not cobble) |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
noteblocks need more range |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
who can help me? |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
and a gui |
| 20:36 |
Penguin |
Oldcoder? |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
oh! xd, fail |
| 20:36 |
sema4 |
ok, how does that differ from sunlight_propagates = true ? |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
i forgot one thing |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
i can copy the url |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
and use youtube-dl |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
how i use youtube-dl ? |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, yes |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
I am he |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
*him |
| 20:37 |
Penguin |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 20:37 |
moltenbot |
Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
oldcoder, how i use youtube-dl? |
| 20:37 |
Penguin |
Me and baby like it and he and i wants it on server if you can please? |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, movgrab is better. But try: |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
youtube-dl LINK |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 20:38 |
KikaRz |
link or i set there the link? |
| 20:38 |
OldCoder |
Where LINK is a YouTube video link |
| 20:38 |
OldCoder |
<KikaRz> link or i set there the link? |
| 20:38 |
OldCoder |
I am not clear on the question |
| 20:38 |
KikaRz |
ERROR: unable to download video |
| 20:38 |
OldCoder |
May be outdated. Try movgrab. |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:39 |
Penguin |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 20:39 |
moltenbot |
Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 20:39 |
iqualfragile |
!re |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
how i connect ssl in the terminal? |
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| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
poor moltenbot |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
Hi moltenbot |
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| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
stupid bot. |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
do not says me hi. |
| 20:39 |
iqualfragile |
jup |
| 20:39 |
iqualfragile |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:39 |
moltenbot |
hi iqualfragile |
| 20:39 |
iqualfragile |
put you on ignore |
| 20:39 |
Penguin |
lol |
| 20:39 |
KikaRz |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:39 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:39 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 20:40 |
khonkhortisan |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:40 |
moltenbot |
hi khonkhortisan |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
mother f****** |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
die in hell |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
b*stard |
| 20:40 |
Penguin |
say hi moltenbot |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
he set me ignore |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
in the bot. |
| 20:40 |
Penguin |
lol |
| 20:40 |
Penguin |
why |
| 20:40 |
iqualfragile |
OldCoder: KikaRz uses explicit language |
| 20:40 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:40 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
cause he's gay. |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
ok, explicit |
| 20:40 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
| 20:40 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:41 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:41 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:41 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, be polite |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
because he is homossexual |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:41 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:41 |
celeron55 |
sema4: the engine stores the brightness of light in the node if paramtype="light", and the brightness of nodeboxes is applied from the brightness in the node itself |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:41 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:41 |
moltenbot |
hi Penguin |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
now people will spam |
| 20:41 |
OldCoder |
Stop |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, ban bot. |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
lol sorry |
| 20:41 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, stop |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
or mute penguin |
| 20:41 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, also; be polite |
| 20:41 |
OldCoder |
Or you get muted |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
not my fault |
| 20:41 |
Penguin |
sorry |
| 20:41 |
iqualfragile |
!re |
| 20:41 |
celeron55 |
sema4: and if paramtype~="light", then the light in the node is effectively 0 |
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marktraceur |
Penguin: I'm glad you like the modpack, by the way |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
. |
| 20:42 |
celeron55 |
sema4: the paramtypes kind of annoyingly expose some internals of the engine, but it's necessary because of the design of it |
| 20:42 |
Penguin |
Oldcoder can u add http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 20:42 |
sema4 |
hmm, interesting |
| 20:42 |
OldCoder |
R |
| 20:43 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, Which part? |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
yay |
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| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
bot is down! |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
hi moltenbot |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
. |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 20:43 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, there are a lot of pieces. Do you mean, all of them? |
| 20:44 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: There's not really a great way to separate them as of now, so your best bet is to install them all :/ |
| 20:45 |
Penguin |
yeh me and baby have them on sp and yeh all please |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, this seems risky. I am sure they are fine. But are they actually safe? What are the depends? What are the conflicts? |
| 20:45 |
Penguin |
farming oldcoder |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
iqualfragile, that's my revenge. |
| 20:45 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: They all mostly just depend on each other, but farming is the one external dependency (well, and default) |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
They will not break other mods? |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
Are they bad for CPU? |
| 20:46 |
Jeija|OFF |
Any volunteers for testing a new revision of mesecons? https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/mesecons_in_nodedef.zip | https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/mesecons_in_nodedef |
| 20:46 |
Penguin |
Me |
| 20:46 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I doubt very much that they'll break other mods, but it's possible. The craft recipes are all listed, the one that comes to mind as potentially bad is the gear. |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
How so? |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
What are possible risks? |
| 20:46 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: The CPU should be OK. There are a lot of ABMs, but it shouldn't be much heavier than a furnace. |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
I'd like to try them |
| 20:47 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Just a possible craft conflict, but it's not too bad. |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
Can anybody else present comment? |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, marktraceur I'd like to put them in. May I finish the 0.4.4 upgrade first? |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
That is more important |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
It is easy to add things |
| 20:47 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: No problem! |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
Fixing damage when worlds break is much tougher! |
| 20:47 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
So I prefer to go one step at a time |
| 20:47 |
KikaRz |
thats too difficult |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 20:48 |
Penguin |
oldcoder your updating servers to 0.4.4 |
| 20:48 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 20:48 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, when will minetest add new biomes? (jungle, forest, flatlands, snow... |
| 20:48 |
KikaRz |
etc? |
| 20:48 |
sema4 |
thanks celeron55, i think that answers everything for me. |
| 20:48 |
KikaRz |
i want to make ice hocket |
| 20:48 |
KikaRz |
*hockey |
| 20:48 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, I have a snow mod. Can you be more specific about biomes? |
| 20:48 |
iqualfragile |
:wq |
| 20:49 |
iqualfragile |
uhm… too much vim |
| 20:49 |
Penguin |
oldcoder your updating servers to 0.4.4 |
| 20:49 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, We can go on ice |
| 20:49 |
KikaRz |
and make... skating? |
| 20:49 |
Jeija |
I'm interested in: Are there any bugs? Please try lots of different blocks | Do you like the new design of the "receiver" ( the wire behind the wall levers/wall buttons) | Do you like the few changes in the mesecon wire design (crossings) |
| 20:49 |
Penguin |
okay will test jeija |
| 20:49 |
Jeija |
thanks :) |
| 20:50 |
Penguin |
what are textures like |
| 20:51 |
Penguin |
any dependencies |
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| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
I FOUND THE NAME OF OLDCODER! |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
it's Robert Crowley |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 20:54 |
Jeija |
no dependencies |
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| 20:54 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, That is the Anglicized name |
| 20:54 |
OldCoder |
Not the original |
| 20:54 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Hello |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
what's the original *o* |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
Hi NekoGloop |
| 20:55 |
OldCoder |
I will direct you to pages later |
| 20:55 |
OldCoder |
Let us finish the compile for now |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
it opened fucking clive |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
clive |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
clive is a command line media extraction tool for Youtube and similar websites that require flash. It is written in Perl. |
| 20:55 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 20:57 |
Penguin |
jeija i got kick out when placeing blinkeyplant and mesecon next to it |
| 20:58 |
Penguin |
20:55:05: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer places node mesecons_blinkyplant:bl |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
??? |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
how? |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
that never happened to me |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
i place a lot of blinky plants in row |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
and mesecons |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
and never happens that |
| 20:59 |
Penguin |
wait |
| 20:59 |
thexyz |
original is Robert Kiraly, I guess |
| 20:59 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, Progress: 100.00% 7.3M of 7.3M 55.7k/s |
| 21:01 |
Penguin |
ServerError:LuaError:error: ...mes\minetest_game\mods\mesecon\mesecons internal.lua:49:attempt to index |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
whats spoken ? |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
in russian / germany ? |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
Deutsch |
| 21:01 |
KikaRz |
what means spoken? |
| 21:01 |
Jeija |
Yeah, Penguin, can you post the rest of that message? |
| 21:01 |
Penguin |
okay |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
* #!/bin/mksh :http://mirbsd.de/mksh |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
<KikaRz> Hi, here is the mkdir channel? |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
(joking with the deutschlands. |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
Kicked. |
| 21:03 |
Jeija |
wait penguin I think I found it... |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
Jeija, in VanessaE's server |
| 21:03 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, you have the video |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
dont happens that |
| 21:03 |
OldCoder |
It is working. Have fun. |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, what i do to get it? |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
into my pc? |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
just transfer folder to my pc? |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
with filezilla? |
| 21:04 |
Penguin |
jeija? |
| 21:04 |
Jeija |
... |
| 21:04 |
Jeija |
let me please first fix the bug |
| 21:04 |
Penguin |
i will try again |
| 21:05 |
NekoGloop |
let's please not bug the shit out of the modmakesr |
| 21:05 |
Penguin |
okay i will continue lookat it |
| 21:05 |
NekoGloop |
keep in mind they're fighting with a shit API |
| 21:05 |
Jeija |
pushed |
| 21:06 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: why do you think this api is shit? |
| 21:06 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: because it is? |
| 21:06 |
thexyz |
it isn't |
| 21:10 |
Penguin |
Command blocks work perfect no fault other than side textture bug its black |
| 21:12 |
telek |
Here's a cute one for you: 6 page application that uses ajax, non-scripted buttons (so it works even when the ajax doesn't) and doesn't let you know that it didn't actually store any of your info until you complete the app and it's blank :) |
| 21:12 |
sema4 |
bbl |
| 21:13 |
marktraceur |
telek: Sounds like you found some real brilliant web programmers, there. |
| 21:14 |
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| 21:16 |
Jeija |
Ok, Penguin, anything else? |
| 21:17 |
Jeija |
thanks Penguin, bb everyone |
| 21:17 |
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| 21:25 |
iqualfragile |
KikaRz: spoken is gesprochen in german |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
iqualfragile |
| 21:25 |
KikaRz |
no google translate |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
its spoken |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
(in english) |
| 21:26 |
iqualfragile |
uhm… im german, there is no need for me to use google translate |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
just tell me |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
whats spoken in english |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
(in english = language) |
| 21:27 |
marktraceur |
iqualfragile: You mean the bot doesn't have a !translate directive yet? |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
bot ignored me |
| 21:27 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:28 |
KikaRz |
i guess OldCoder is dead. |
| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, We are in PM right now |
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| 21:29 |
OldCoder |
What are you talking about? We are building movgrab again |
| 21:32 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: folks in #minecraft think that your webpage is BS. |
| 21:32 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Why is there a #minecraft channel on Freenode? |
| 21:32 |
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| 21:32 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: because it's an off-topic channel |
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| 21:33 |
NekoGloop |
##minecraft would be more appropriate. |
| 21:33 |
iqualfragile1 |
marktraceur: no, i guess that would be unnececary |
| 21:33 |
marktraceur |
iqualfragile1: Well, it's good that you have a line, I suppose. Just don't know why it's so far. |
| 21:33 |
iqualfragile1 |
but commands like !up and !ping are usefull |
| 21:34 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Frankly it shouldn't be on Freenode at all, but whatever |
| 21:35 |
iqualfragile1 |
extract-title-from-website-function is usefull too, to dodge NekoGloop s jrock |
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| 21:35 |
NekoGloop |
This is precisely why i hate this community |
| 21:35 |
NekoGloop |
Judging covers over content |
| 21:36 |
markveidemanis |
who wants my map |
| 21:36 |
celeron55 |
NekoGloop: BS? |
| 21:36 |
celeron55 |
i don't get what could be BS about it |
| 21:36 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: " inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like" |
| 21:36 |
iqualfragile1 |
bs? |
| 21:36 |
NekoGloop |
They dont see the Infiniminer aspect |
| 21:36 |
iqualfragile1 |
it haz blocks |
| 21:37 |
celeron55 |
so that makes the whole website bullshit? |
| 21:37 |
markveidemanis |
i am going to upload my map, tell me what you think of it... |
| 21:37 |
celeron55 |
come on 8D |
| 21:37 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: apparently |
| 21:37 |
markveidemanis |
http://ompldr.org/vZ245eA/World.zip |
| 21:37 |
markveidemanis |
test my map |
| 21:37 |
markveidemanis |
mods are included in worldmods folder |
| 21:38 |
celeron55 |
NekoGloop: ask them to look again |
| 21:38 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: just tell me where the infiniminer aspect is |
| 21:38 |
iqualfragile1 |
is there a soft-dependency-structure yet? |
| 21:38 |
NekoGloop |
other than "it has blocks" |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
yay, he's gone |
| 21:39 |
iqualfragile1 |
oh, wow, rekonq is fast |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
BS = Bsod |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
who knows what is bso, call me maybe... |
| 21:40 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 21:40 |
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| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
hey... i just ... can you seee mee... keep us another... |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
just call me maybe... |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 21:40 |
NekoGloop |
apparently this child doesnt know what i meant |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
Kidding |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
nekogloop, it's a song |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
not a baby video |
| 21:40 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:40 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hey |
| 21:40 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: hi |
| 21:41 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: can you look into the industry mod i have it on my single player and it is really neat http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 21:41 |
moltenbot |
babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 21:42 |
OldCoder |
R |
| 21:42 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I think he confirmed that is high CPU |
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| 21:42 |
OldCoder |
Muadtralk, Hi |
| 21:42 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Isn't it? |
| 21:42 |
Muadtralk |
ello |
| 21:42 |
OldCoder |
L.O. |
| 21:43 |
babyface1031 |
i can look again but i havent seen it but i might of missed it being added alot going on at home |
| 21:44 |
iqualfragile |
who is responsible for http://minetest.com/ |
| 21:44 |
moltenbot |
iqualfragile's link: Minetest mods, servers, texture packs, and more! | Minetest-c55 |
| 21:44 |
babyface1031 |
no i dont see is on the list |
| 21:44 |
NekoGloop |
death dealer IIRC |
| 21:45 |
Muadtralk |
and i think saxton or some name like that |
| 21:47 |
leo_rockway |
[Plantlife] Loaded (enabled...er...nothing!) <--- hehe |
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| 21:47 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Hello |
| 21:48 |
marktraceur |
LorenzoVulcan: Hi! |
| 21:49 |
LorenzoVulcan |
This is the minetest channel,Right? |
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| 21:49 |
LorenzoVulcan |
I am not in something like an applejack hardcore party,am i? |
| 21:49 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 21:49 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Hello |
| 21:50 |
iqualfragile |
hi LorenzoVulcan |
| 21:50 |
iqualfragile |
whats an applejack hardcore party? |
| 21:50 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Iqual,it's not so easy to explain |
| 21:50 |
* leo_rockway |
waves his hand |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
No this is my toilet's channel |
| 21:50 |
leo_rockway |
this is not an applejack hardcore party |
| 21:50 |
marktraceur |
LorenzoVulcan: We have those sometimes, but you just missed it on Friday. So you're safe for a bit |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
J.K |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 21:51 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Thanks mark,I like applejack's hardcore parties. |
| 21:51 |
NekoGloop |
This is the channel for minetest. Please fill out this form to continue. |
| 21:51 |
* telek |
thinks kikarz must be the foreign version of Assy McGee. |
| 21:51 |
iqualfragile |
http://minetestforfreenofake.to |
| 21:51 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Ponies are everywhere. |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
Assy McGee = ? |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
i prefer Abby, from the CSI... |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
NCSI |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
NCIS* |
| 21:51 |
KikaRz |
she's epic. |
| 21:52 |
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| 21:52 |
NekoGloop |
someone delete my mod topics please. |
| 21:52 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: What for? |
| 21:52 |
iqualfragile |
but why? |
| 21:53 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Why neko? |
| 21:53 |
NekoGloop |
because they arent there anymore? |
| 21:53 |
Muadtralk |
because they say go away? |
| 21:53 |
Muadtralk |
seems like a good idea to remove forum topics that no longer serve any purpose |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
lol. |
| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
im screaming of stupidness. |
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| 21:53 |
KikaRz |
(really... im happy + laughing) |
| 21:54 |
telek |
They've got a spoof of all those shows too. |
| 21:54 |
telek |
With Kate Mulgrew no less (Janeway!) |
| 21:54 |
D__ |
Hey, any reason why minetest would think I'm holding down space when I hold down shift+e? |
| 21:54 |
telek |
Who I might add has now porked up such that she looks like an 80s female Will Shatner. |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop, the only mod i hate on your mods |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
its the GloopOres. |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
is all of then |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
them* |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
Go figure |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
just GloopOres |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
Reason: |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
Each of them suck. |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
... let me talk |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
whats his powerful mineral? |
| 21:55 |
KikaRz |
or the mineral that is at level of water |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
Alatro |
| 21:56 |
KikaRz |
Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand! |
| 21:56 |
NekoGloop |
it's only above water |
| 21:56 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder is the best!!!!!!1 |
| 21:56 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder is the best!!!!!!1 |
| 21:56 |
NekoGloop |
What the hell... |
| 21:56 |
telek |
NekoGloop: You know if you feel they suck, you can always take the source and improve them :D |
| 21:56 |
NekoGloop |
telek: I'd need the source. |
| 21:57 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Do you know you feel they suck,they don't necessary suck... |
| 21:57 |
LorenzoVulcan |
I liked your mods. |
| 21:57 |
telek |
I'll have to look, but I've got at least one or two of them backed up. Maybe all of them if you want them. |
| 21:57 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Why are they wrong? |
| 21:57 |
NekoGloop |
Dont want them. |
| 21:57 |
LorenzoVulcan |
Ok,that's your choice. |
| 22:00 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, ... |
| 22:00 |
KikaRz |
woot? |
| 22:00 |
KikaRz |
you said that to me |
| 22:00 |
OldCoder |
She was pleased that we got an MP3 to work |
| 22:00 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, I did not |
| 22:00 |
OldCoder |
I made a single one-line joke |
| 22:00 |
OldCoder |
You want MP3 help again then don't push it |
| 22:00 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 22:01 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 22:01 |
OldCoder |
Enjoy the music |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
oh , forgot. |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
People, i have an announcement! OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand, HE'S THE BEST! |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
People, i have an announcement! OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand, HE'S THE BEST! |
| 22:01 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I've had a wonderful afternoon since /ignore ing KikaRz earlier |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
i've forgot that thing |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur is noob |
| 22:01 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, Enough. marktraceur O.K. |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
i've forgot Brand Coder is the best Brand |
| 22:01 |
NekoGloop |
It was funnier the first 500 times. |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 22:02 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, I helped you and I'm kind of busy. You going to pay me back this way? |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
lol , the Go tell people Old Coder... ? |
| 22:02 |
OldCoder |
Gee, thanks |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
thank you, how i pay you? |
| 22:02 |
OldCoder |
By listening to your music |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 22:02 |
OldCoder |
And keeping the channel free of clutter please |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
now: TNT |
| 22:02 |
KikaRz |
Who have a TNT mod? |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
i love tnt... |
| 22:03 |
NekoGloop |
nobody. |
| 22:03 |
telek |
Search the forum. |
| 22:03 |
NekoGloop |
Go away. |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop, why you dont walk off? since you want to delete your precious mods? |
| 22:03 |
telek |
That's how I got the mods I use. Periodic checking of the forums. |
| 22:03 |
KikaRz |
telek, linux its laggy for me |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
except to listen to music, and to play minetest |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
not linux! |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
Its Xubuntu (ubuntu) |
| 22:04 |
telek |
And kikarz/NekoGloop: Seriously don't either of you have better things to do than pester each other? |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
. |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
telek, one thing i love to do... Sleep. |
| 22:04 |
telek |
Xubuntu is just linux which ubuntu is based off of with Xfce instead of Unity. |
| 22:04 |
telek |
Lol :D |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
not Linux!| |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
Linux is kernel |
| 22:04 |
KikaRz |
fail |
| 22:05 |
telek |
You're right. It's GNU/Xubuntu :D |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
Just... |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
Shut. Teh. Fack. Up. |
| 22:07 |
q66 |
it's linux |
| 22:07 |
q66 |
that's it :P |
| 22:07 |
q66 |
nobody cares whether it's correct |
| 22:07 |
q66 |
everybody knows what it means |
| 22:08 |
marktraceur |
q66: If you have only linux, your life must be either very boring or very exciting :/ |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
very boring. |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
this is a MINETEST channel |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
talk about MINETEST |
| 22:08 |
q66 |
minetest is boring :< |
| 22:08 |
q66 |
let's talk about OS wars |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop, you boring. |
| 22:08 |
KikaRz |
q66, not Minetest, its him, |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
I know you're boring |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
... NekoGloop, why you dont go editing that post without links? thats the way that nobody downloads your mods |
| 22:09 |
* q66 |
should try minetest again |
| 22:09 |
q66 |
i last played it around 0.2 |
| 22:09 |
telek |
q66: Sheesh, no kidding. |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
too old. |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
now we got 3d skins |
| 22:09 |
telek |
It's advanced by leaps and bounds since then. |
| 22:09 |
q66 |
i'm generally aware of the news |
| 22:09 |
q66 |
but i never had time to try it out myself |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
minetest.net/news |
| 22:09 |
KikaRz |
or news.php |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
just go on news tab |
| 22:10 |
telek |
Just snag the latest dev client and fire up in single player mod :D |
| 22:10 |
NekoGloop |
KikaRz: what? |
| 22:10 |
q66 |
does it build on OS X out of box yet? |
| 22:10 |
q66 |
last time I tried it required a special fork |
| 22:10 |
q66 |
is it merged now? |
| 22:10 |
NekoGloop |
q66: no |
| 22:11 |
NekoGloop |
macs are bad and you should feel bad |
| 22:11 |
q66 |
oh you |
| 22:11 |
celeron55 |
:D |
| 22:11 |
telek |
q66: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55239 |
| 22:11 |
moltenbot |
telek's link: Mac Build? (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 22:11 |
q66 |
if it makes you feel any better, I use about 5 different OSes |
| 22:11 |
KikaRz |
celeron55, |
| 22:11 |
KikaRz |
i thinked that you were a machine... |
| 22:11 |
marktraceur |
q66: Three different kernels? |
| 22:11 |
KikaRz |
but you... you really have feelings. |
| 22:12 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: Another entry in the "cool phrases" list from me? :D |
| 22:12 |
celeron55 |
KikaRz: machines can have feelings too |
| 22:12 |
telek |
That's ok kikarz. We think the same of you :D |
| 22:12 |
q66 |
freebsd, mac, linux, illumos and windows |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
telek, one thing i say about you |
| 22:12 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, startling to imagine that people have feelings |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, i thinked that celeron55 were a machine.ç |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
q66: So what you mean is, BSD, XNU, Linux, Solaris, and NT. |
| 22:13 |
q66 |
marktraceur, of course. ;) |
| 22:13 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: Well? Is it in the list of cool phrases? :D |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
1 in 10000 people have no feelings |
| 22:13 |
KikaRz |
(im not one of those |
| 22:13 |
NekoGloop |
Why does everyone think NT is the only good windows -_- |
| 22:13 |
NekoGloop |
Obviously people dont use windows at all |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Well, what else would you use? |
| 22:14 |
NekoGloop |
Windows XP |
| 22:14 |
FreeFull |
98 SE |
| 22:14 |
q66 |
NekoGloop, that said, macs are solid machines, the thing is the community by a large part consists of retards and they're sort of .. expensive |
| 22:14 |
KikaRz |
98 SE is awesome |
| 22:14 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: No no, the kernel |
| 22:14 |
FreeFull |
NekoGloop: Um, XP was NT |
| 22:14 |
NekoGloop |
y'know, the one that actually works. |
| 22:14 |
KikaRz |
it got that space animations |
| 22:14 |
KikaRz |
and sounds, and animated backgrounds |
| 22:14 |
telek |
Speaking of which. |
| 22:14 |
KikaRz |
better than 7. 7 sucks |
| 22:14 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Why would we be talking about the full OS? People only care about kernels. |
| 22:14 |
telek |
Has anybody gotten minetest running on ReactOS yet? D: |
| 22:14 |
marktraceur |
And everybody understands what I mean, of course |
| 22:14 |
cy1 |
q66: so wait, its those very same retards who are saying macs are solid machines right |
| 22:14 |
telek |
Open Source Minecraft on Open Source Windows! Yay :D |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 22:15 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Watch your mouth |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
!define Windows |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
... stupid bot. |
| 22:15 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: something wrong with my mouth? :c |
| 22:15 |
telek |
I believe other than links you have to /msg it now, correct? |
| 22:15 |
marktraceur |
cy1: "retards" is very offensive, yes. |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
telek no. |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
Bot ignored me |
| 22:16 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: don't worry about it. |
| 22:16 |
telek |
OMG it's skynet all over again. |
| 22:16 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Swear up and down if you'd like, but terms that demean a group of people for no good reason are awful. |
| 22:16 |
q66 |
cy1, well, e.g. macbooks are some of the best laptops I used, lasting long on battery, not suffering from various problems like overheating and having actually good displays (no 1366x768 crap) |
| 22:16 |
telek |
The bot has learned how to /ignore kikarz |
| 22:16 |
Muadtralk |
I thought i saw someone running an very outdated version of minetest on reactos telek |
| 22:16 |
telek |
Next it'll learn how to trade stocks :D |
| 22:16 |
q66 |
but they're expensive as fuck at the same time |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
telek, what that command does? |
| 22:16 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: we're demeaning apple fans, that in itself is a very good reason |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
(me writes /ignore telek) |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
hm... |
| 22:16 |
KikaRz |
i see... |
| 22:16 |
leo_rockway |
telek: if MT runs on WINE, it will run on ReactOS. |
| 22:17 |
marktraceur |
cy1: But in the course of doing that you're also implying that people with developmental disabilities are somehow bad. |
| 22:17 |
q66 |
leo_rockway, it does |
| 22:17 |
leo_rockway |
they share a lot of code. |
| 22:17 |
q66 |
i tried it at some point |
| 22:17 |
telek |
leo_rockway: Hypothetically, but practically not unless 3d acceleration is working now. |
| 22:17 |
* KikaRz |
is going to be stupid as NekoGloop. |
| 22:17 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: just because retards are retarded doesn't mean they're bad. just more likely to become apple fans. |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
3D Acceleration sucks on Windows 95. |
| 22:17 |
leo_rockway |
telek: 3D acceleration works on WINE. It should be working on ReactOS |
| 22:17 |
KikaRz |
WINE sucks. |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
ReactOS its a bit old. |
| 22:18 |
marktraceur |
cy1: That word has a lot of history to it, and none of it is good. That's what I mean. |
| 22:18 |
q66 |
wine is actually great |
| 22:18 |
Kray |
wine doesn't suck at all |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
Wine sucks. |
| 22:18 |
q66 |
you have to realize it's a small miracle it's working at all |
| 22:18 |
Kray |
KikaRz sucks. |
| 22:18 |
telek |
leo_rockway: Unless ReactOS has the OGL or directx driver hooks in place it actually won't. |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
I'm apathetic towards WINE. |
| 22:18 |
q66 |
there was a HUGE amount of work behind it |
| 22:18 |
q66 |
they basically reimplemented the complete set of windows APIs |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
Kray smells marktraceur's ass. |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
telek: it should. They just need to port it from WINE. |
| 22:18 |
q66 |
insane IMO |
| 22:18 |
telek |
The fact wine works as well as it does is impressive. |
| 22:18 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: don't worry about history. I'm a deconstructionist. |
| 22:18 |
KikaRz |
IMO = imo.im - Love that service |
| 22:18 |
leo_rockway |
q66: that and smb. |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
smb = super mario bros |
| 22:19 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 22:19 |
telek |
Although it now doesn't even support 2.6 era kernels so it's quite the moving target. |
| 22:19 |
leo_rockway |
samba |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
Oleee! Brasil! |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 22:19 |
marktraceur |
cy1: I don't care what you are, I'm offended by your wanton disregard for the consequences of your choice of words. |
| 22:19 |
* telek |
prefers xmpp :) |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
words = letters + letters |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
xmpp = xampp ? |
| 22:19 |
leo_rockway |
XMPP ++ |
| 22:19 |
Muadtralk |
wow.... I dont think I have ever seen kray say anytihng on this channel and when he does he gets insulted |
| 22:19 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: I'm offended by your surprising prejudices. what did retards ever do to you? |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
xD |
| 22:19 |
q66 |
saying Wine sucks just shows one's utter ignorance on the topic |
| 22:19 |
cy1 |
besides buy macs |
| 22:19 |
KikaRz |
retard = marktraceur + his bot |
| 22:20 |
Kray |
Muadtralk: huh? |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
q66, Wine sucks because my computer its too slow to run CS 1.6 with it |
| 22:20 |
Kray |
me, insulted :D? |
| 22:20 |
Kray |
the fuck |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
No, you are fired. |
| 22:20 |
Muadtralk |
(05:18:40 PM) KikaRz: Kray smells marktraceur's ass. |
| 22:20 |
telek |
KikarZ: Does CS 1.6 run fine under Windows? |
| 22:20 |
Kray |
ah, you meant like that |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
MuadTralk thinks that KikaRz is a quote bot. |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
telek, im not in windows |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
*on |
| 22:20 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm? |
| 22:20 |
q66 |
CS 1.6 exactly (as well as any goldsrc and Source game) works as fast under Wine as on Windows |
| 22:20 |
KikaRz |
im in Linux (yea ubuntu is linux) |
| 22:21 |
Muadtralk |
no i thought you were some clueless imbecile tell the truth |
| 22:21 |
KikaRz |
q66, never seen |
| 22:21 |
telek |
kikarz: Because generally when wine isn't fast, either windows isn't as fast as well or there's driver problems on the linux side. |
| 22:21 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, im making the same as that person that made Gloop |
| 22:21 |
telek |
Usually OGL. |
| 22:21 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop. |
| 22:21 |
q66 |
so I guess, get some hardware that is not 10 years old |
| 22:21 |
q66 |
and it'll work ok :) |
| 22:21 |
q66 |
s/10/12/ |
| 22:21 |
KikaRz |
telek, i used D3D and Software |
| 22:21 |
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| 22:22 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Goodbye |
| 22:22 |
telek |
kikarz: And both were slow? |
| 22:22 |
cy1 |
:( |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
no telek |
| 22:22 |
q66 |
of course software rendering is going to be slow |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
faster as hell |
| 22:22 |
telek |
Under Wine you should use OGL if available. |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
(not software) |
| 22:22 |
q66 |
d3d and ogl should work ok |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
idk using wine |
| 22:22 |
Muadtralk |
burningsvideo anyone? |
| 22:23 |
KikaRz |
Nope, that's shit. |
| 22:23 |
KikaRz |
i prefer openGL |
| 22:23 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm? it gives great fps for computers that cant run minetest well |
| 22:23 |
KikaRz |
No. |
| 22:24 |
KikaRz |
It makes our graphics make stupid. |
| 22:24 |
cy1 |
hey, anyone want to come check out this staircase I made yesterday? |
| 22:24 |
Muadtralk |
its the difference between 1fps and 10 fps with one computer I knew |
| 22:24 |
KikaRz |
i got 1-15 FPS in minetest (linux opengl) |
| 22:24 |
KikaRz |
cy1, no. |
| 22:24 |
* Muadtralk |
get 120 fps |
| 22:24 |
Muadtralk |
gets* |
| 22:24 |
cy1 |
retards welcome |
| 22:24 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, put the computer in the trashbin. |
| 22:24 |
q66 |
no u? |
| 22:25 |
Muadtralk |
im sorry kikarz but its already full of system32 |
| 22:25 |
q66 |
<KikaRz> It makes our graphics make stupid. |
| 22:25 |
q66 |
what the hell is this supposed to mean anyway |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
thats shit. if it were full, i threw out of the window |
| 22:25 |
telek |
kikarz: On a GeForce MX2? |
| 22:25 |
telek |
That sounds about right :D |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
q66, my graphics are stupid with burning... |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
telek, yes. |
| 22:26 |
telek |
I get 10 on my old P4 laptop with an IGP around that era. |
| 22:26 |
q66 |
[23:25:26] <telek> kikarz: On a GeForce MX2? |
| 22:26 |
q66 |
that's still running somewhere? |
| 22:26 |
q66 |
I just got rid of like 10. |
| 22:26 |
Muadtralk |
stupid graphics and movement is better then a screenshot that eats cpu |
| 22:26 |
telek |
That is kikarz current graphics card. |
| 22:26 |
telek |
So you can see why she has problems. |
| 22:26 |
q66 |
the only old card I kept is voodoo 2 :3 |
| 22:26 |
telek |
q66: Nice. |
| 22:27 |
q66 |
that thing was so awesome back in the day |
| 22:27 |
KikaRz |
o.o |
| 22:27 |
leo_rockway |
so, shaders... I love the way they look. Will that fry our computers? |
| 22:27 |
telek |
I've got a V3, couple GeForce FX, couple R300 radeons, and a couple PCIe cards since. |
| 22:27 |
leo_rockway |
I mean the gsls shaders or whatever they are called... |
| 22:27 |
KikaRz |
i got the other pc |
| 22:27 |
KikaRz |
with S3 something. |
| 22:27 |
Muadtralk |
only if you cant support them |
| 22:27 |
q66 |
S3 Trio 3D/2X |
| 22:27 |
telek |
They will possibly lower game performance on some systems. |
| 22:27 |
q66 |
i had a bunch of these too |
| 22:27 |
q66 |
and S3 Virge |
| 22:27 |
Muadtralk |
you can disable them pretty easily though |
| 22:27 |
KikaRz |
thats stupidly ass. |
| 22:27 |
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| 22:27 |
leo_rockway |
what's the minimum they should run on? |
| 22:27 |
KikaRz |
no, |
| 22:27 |
telek |
Honestly a lot of our gpus are fast enough that enabling shaders won't actually have any performance hit at all. |
| 22:28 |
leo_rockway |
I have an integrated Intel |
| 22:28 |
NekoGloop |
intel gpus cant run shaders |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
I HAVE S3 VIRGEIN THE OTHER PC |
| 22:28 |
NekoGloop |
duh |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
not virgin |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
its "virge" "in" |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 22:28 |
telek |
q66: S3's were awesome for late DOS/early DX games |
| 22:28 |
leo_rockway |
NekoGloop: v.v |
| 22:28 |
q66 |
NekoGloop, wat |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
yea, |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
now they suck. |
| 22:28 |
telek |
I played XvT, XwA and a few other games on those. |
| 22:28 |
KikaRz |
no drivers. |
| 22:28 |
q66 |
leo_rockway, if you have a sandy bridge / ivy bridge Intel it should run |
| 22:28 |
leo_rockway |
NekoGloop: you just shattered my hopes. |
| 22:28 |
q66 |
of course intel graphics support shaders |
| 22:28 |
leo_rockway |
q66: I have an ironlake? I think that's what it's called. |
| 22:28 |
q66 |
today's intels |
| 22:29 |
Muadtralk |
one can only find out by trying yes? |
| 22:29 |
q66 |
leo_rockway, so intel hd graphics? |
| 22:29 |
telek |
Yep |
| 22:29 |
q66 |
then shaders should work just ok for you |
| 22:29 |
leo_rockway |
q66: dunno... I guess. |
| 22:29 |
Muadtralk |
go now brave soldier and set the shaders to 1! |
| 22:29 |
telek |
Could be worse, you could have an Intel Atom with one of those SGX IGPs that doesn't actually have 3d acceleration support :D |
| 22:29 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk |
| 22:29 |
KikaRz |
i cant |
| 22:29 |
Uberi |
set them to 2, actually, 1 isn't implemented yet |
| 22:30 |
leo_rockway |
regular shaders work fine for me |
| 22:30 |
KikaRz |
im a princess |
| 22:30 |
KikaRz |
not a soldier |
| 22:30 |
leo_rockway |
the ones that MT has now in master |
| 22:30 |
KikaRz |
Uberi, 1 works too |
| 22:30 |
leo_rockway |
I mean Terasology-like shaders. |
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| 22:30 |
q66 |
the problem with today's intel graphics is not that the performance is bad or the technology support is bad |
| 22:30 |
KikaRz |
if i enable shaders |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
terasology doesn't run very well on my old P4 laptop on my desk over there |
| 22:30 |
KikaRz |
my screen goes red (red-cyan glasses needed) |
| 22:31 |
q66 |
it's that the drivers are bad and require immense amount of workarounds in the 3D engines, even worse than with AMD |
| 22:31 |
leo_rockway |
Uberi: it doesn't run very well on my comp either. |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: you too? |
| 22:31 |
leo_rockway |
q66: the free drivers improved a LOT in the last few years. |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
but not enough |
| 22:31 |
leo_rockway |
well, there's only the free drivers |
| 22:31 |
KikaRz |
Uberi everyone |
| 22:31 |
KikaRz |
that got old graphics |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
KikaRz: ah well, it adds a bit of atmosphere, no? |
| 22:31 |
q66 |
leo_rockway, it's not enough |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
think of it as a Hell biome |
| 22:32 |
telek |
q66: Uhmm, the Atom's with like 2 exceptions are PowerVR SGX, not Intel GMA |
| 22:32 |
KikaRz |
yes Uberi |
| 22:32 |
q66 |
never had an Atom |
| 22:32 |
KikaRz |
all blocks etc are red. |
| 22:32 |
telek |
Same one as the apple iPod/Pad line, and a number of non-Mali Android devices, but without the 3d acceleration support. |
| 22:32 |
KikaRz |
xxd |
| 22:32 |
q66 |
telek, that's ... odd |
| 22:33 |
telek |
q66: Wikipedia has the full breakdown |
| 22:33 |
leo_rockway |
this is my laptop: http://www.vcvshop.com/DELL-VOSTRO-3400-LAPTOP-CORE-i3-24GHz-2GB-DVDRW-WIN7-p-1570.html |
| 22:33 |
moltenbot |
leo_rockway's link: DELL VOSTRO 3400 LAPTOP CORE i3 2.4GHz 2GB DVDRW WIN7 - EUR225 : Laptops&Macbooks - Dell - Buy CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, Gaming, NAS, Wii Nintendo, Kitchenware & Hi Tech products in the best prices |
| 22:33 |
leo_rockway |
except 4GB of RAM |
| 22:33 |
q66 |
telek, if it's the same as in the iphones etc., it should still support at least OpenGL ES |
| 22:33 |
telek |
GMA500/600 GMA3600/3650 are all SGX. There's a small run in the middle with GMA3150 which is a G31 derivative I believe, but otherwise they're all PowerVR |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
when we will invent a better mob than creeper? |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
and than zombi |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
and zombie pigman |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
etc. ? |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
we could make Rat man |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
8) |
| 22:34 |
KikaRz |
Ft. Portal |
| 22:34 |
Uberi |
+1 for ratman |
| 22:34 |
telek |
I just want to know when our minetest companions will be in, so we can adventure with our own support staff :D |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
who wants ratman in minetest? |
| 22:35 |
q66 |
i want pedobear in minetest |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
No. |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
Ratman! |
| 22:35 |
q66 |
i once remade the dungeon master to be pedobear |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
Aperture Science isbetter! |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
yea yea... |
| 22:35 |
KikaRz |
and? |
| 22:35 |
Uberi |
hello, lawsuit! how are you doing today? |
| 22:36 |
KikaRz |
ratman runs. |
| 22:36 |
KikaRz |
then, makes a companion cube... |
| 22:36 |
KikaRz |
fall into our head |
| 22:36 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 22:37 |
Muadtralk |
companion cube? ripping off terasology now are we? |
| 22:37 |
Muadtralk |
i tihnk it was terasology |
| 22:37 |
Muadtralk |
think* |
| 22:37 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk |
| 22:37 |
KikaRz |
Aperture Science... WE do the most because we can.... |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
and the good of all of us... its that once we are dead... |
| 22:38 |
Muadtralk |
yes i know its from portal |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
companion cube. |
| 22:38 |
telek |
What's this terasology? |
| 22:38 |
Muadtralk |
but I tihnk terasology did it too |
| 22:38 |
telek |
Is there a link? |
| 22:38 |
q66 |
http://i.imgur.com/jsozP.jpg here it is |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 22:38 |
q66 |
found it |
| 22:38 |
telek |
Rofl. |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
let me open |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
whats that? |
| 22:38 |
Muadtralk |
http://blog.movingblocks.net/blockmania/ |
| 22:38 |
moltenbot |
Muadtralk's link: Terasology | Moving Blocks! |
| 22:38 |
KikaRz |
companion cube? |
| 22:38 |
telek |
q66's idea would certainly get us 4channer mindshare :D |
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| 22:39 |
KikaRz |
bad of linux: No Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V. |
| 22:40 |
q66 |
this was back with my freebsd desktop :< |
| 22:40 |
q66 |
i miss it |
| 22:40 |
telek |
kikarz: What're you talking about? |
| 22:40 |
KikaRz |
q66, so your last time that you've played minetest |
| 22:40 |
KikaRz |
was in 0.4.1 version |
| 22:40 |
telek |
We've got both CTRL-C CTRL-V and mouse-left select + middle button paste |
| 22:40 |
KikaRz |
or minus |
| 22:40 |
KikaRz |
thats too much work |
| 22:40 |
q66 |
KikaRz, yeah this was sort of the last time |
| 22:41 |
q66 |
so i actually had 0.4-dev :P |
| 22:41 |
q66 |
but i think this was still pre-lua |
| 22:41 |
q66 |
or right after lua introduction |
| 22:41 |
telek |
Right after. |
| 22:41 |
telek |
0.3.1 was the last pre-lua? |
| 22:41 |
telek |
Or was that the FIRST lua? |
| 22:41 |
q66 |
no, 0.4 was lua |
| 22:41 |
q66 |
i'm gonna fetch latest minetest git now |
| 22:41 |
KikaRz |
boys and girls, ladies and gentlemans. |
| 22:41 |
KikaRz |
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhSVxhRp6BsbK1Wt7UHXsIxxjW77J9liNL4c1ZgCE5Wqi25GOQDg |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
thats the companion cube |
| 22:42 |
mauvebic |
can one copy a world and rename it? |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
yes. |
| 22:42 |
mauvebic |
when i tried it wouldnt launch :S |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
... renamed the sql? |
| 22:42 |
mauvebic |
crap |
| 22:42 |
mauvebic |
lol thanks |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
you must rename folder and the sql |
| 22:42 |
mauvebic |
rename the file or the db? |
| 22:42 |
KikaRz |
both |
| 22:43 |
telek |
I did not know that. |
| 22:43 |
KikaRz |
db and folder |
| 22:43 |
KikaRz |
telek, |
| 22:43 |
KikaRz |
you're too noob for that knowledge. |
| 22:43 |
KikaRz |
no, you arent |
| 22:43 |
mauvebic |
how do you change the db name w/o using something like sql explorer? |
| 22:43 |
KikaRz |
People that were waiting for companion cube... |
| 22:44 |
KikaRz |
look at my picture at minetest |
| 22:44 |
KikaRz |
http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/Companion_Cube.jpg |
| 22:44 |
KikaRz |
XD. Notenoughnerds is my new site. |
| 22:44 |
KikaRz |
kidding. |
| 22:44 |
KikaRz |
love that site |
| 22:45 |
KikaRz |
Best pic of the site. |
| 22:45 |
KikaRz |
http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_lkyz6ctVW11qzylvvo1_500.gif |
| 22:45 |
KikaRz |
falling forever |
| 22:45 |
telek |
Speaking of. |
| 22:45 |
telek |
One of the cooler ideas I had. Make falling off a world result in a random connect to another world included in a server worldlist :D |
| 22:46 |
telek |
So if you walk/dig too far you get dumped into a brand new world, with only your current inventory to subsist you. |
| 22:46 |
Uberi |
awesome |
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KikaRz |
guys |
| 22:47 |
KikaRz |
gotta go |
| 22:47 |
KikaRz |
byee... |
| 22:47 |
telek |
Aww |
| 22:47 |
KikaRz |
Minetest, never change into the inventory question |
| 22:47 |
* telek |
waves! |
| 22:47 |
KikaRz |
IN DEATH : ALL OF OUR THINGS DONT DISAPPEAR |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
just in Hardcore. |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
kisses |
| 22:48 |
telek |
In death we get names. Her name was Kikarz *Expletive*. |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
bye my son |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
and your were: |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
telekEgg. |
| 22:48 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 22:48 |
* telek |
waves. |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
telek: I thought of that idea of portals to other servers. |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
the portal would have to delete the unknown items or something |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
it would be pretty awesome to have something like that. |
| 23:02 |
Uberi |
interworld trading! |
| 23:02 |
* marktraceur |
generates a world that is solid mese |
| 23:02 |
marktraceur |
Muahaha, we'll be rich |
| 23:03 |
leo_rockway |
it would be cool if some servers lacked a resource |
| 23:03 |
leo_rockway |
and were forced to do business with another server |
| 23:03 |
leo_rockway |
there's a thing a friend of mine plays called Civcraft |
| 23:04 |
leo_rockway |
apparently they have cities all over the place (this is minecraft) |
| 23:04 |
leo_rockway |
and people trade and build for their city |
| 23:06 |
mauvebic |
the economy mod could handle that |
| 23:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm making music for minetest, i hope it gets added |
| 23:08 |
NekoGloop |
how the hell long have you been doing that, and it hasnt been addeD? |
| 23:09 |
Uberi |
it's in the ambience mod now |
| 23:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Real music meant specifically for this game |
| 23:10 |
cy1 |
a digital signature mod would be ballin... |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
what functionality would that provide, cy1? |
| 23:11 |
cy1 |
Uberi: you could issue coins based on your signature, and people could trade 'em. |
| 23:12 |
cy1 |
you could even do p2p stuff, like trading special coin textures or whatever. |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
or use bitcoins and trade with real currency! :D |
| 23:13 |
cy1 |
meh, bitcoins |
| 23:14 |
cy1 |
Uberi: with digital signatures nobody can impersonate anybody else, so you can build whitelists for people you trust to do stuff to your client/server/etc |
| 23:14 |
Uberi |
well yes, but the current user/pass system is quite usable now as well |
| 23:15 |
Uberi |
plus you don't need to add the openssl libs or whichever you want to use |
| 23:16 |
leo_rockway |
I havent tried the economy mod. |
| 23:16 |
leo_rockway |
not enough people on the server |
| 23:20 |
telek |
In addition to wasting cpu/gpu cycles and bandwidth, the bitcoin blockchain is currently up to 5.5 gigs of disk space. |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
:O |
| 23:20 |
telek |
Anybody want to do calculations on how much above energy cost you need to be mining in bitcoins to cover the cost of the disk space wasted to verify your account? |
| 23:20 |
telek |
Took me like a week to get it fully updated BTW |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
Pfft. |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
Took this long to be banned in #minecraft. |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
I must be getting rusty. |
| 23:21 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: did you call someone a retard? :o |
| 23:21 |
telek |
Or enough people know how to use /ignore :) |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: no, insulted linux |
| 23:21 |
cy1 |
omg |
| 23:21 |
cy1 |
wait |
| 23:21 |
Uberi |
hahaha |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
Amazingly there's people on #minecraft who use linux |
| 23:21 |
cy1 |
minecraft isn't... available for linux... |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
uh, yes, it is |
| 23:22 |
cy1 |
oh wait yes it is |
| 23:22 |
NekoGloop |
My hope in Minecraft is gone. |
| 23:22 |
cy1 |
sorry I'm dumb |
| 23:22 |
cy1 |
one could even say retarded |
| 23:22 |
cy1 |
but then you would be banned |
| 23:22 |
cy1 |
so don't |
| 23:23 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: minecraft is just minetest with particles :p |
| 23:23 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: nope |
| 23:23 |
cy1 |
YES |
| 23:23 |
cy1 |
ok |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
Minecraft is minetest with mobs, particles, better mods, and not running from a fndsjaogbfadjs console. |
| 23:24 |
cy1 |
uh, anyway I value open source efforts far more than the most apparantly cool closed source crap. |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: technically it isnt closed source |
| 23:24 |
cy1 |
ugh, mobs... |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
Mojang doesnt give half a fuck if you decompile it |
| 23:24 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: wat |
| 23:24 |
cy1 |
oh |
| 23:24 |
cy1 |
well one cannot recompile decompiled java |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
yes they can |
| 23:25 |
cy1 |
how? |
| 23:25 |
NakedFury |
particles, better lightning, something to survive from, and a bunch of other stuff |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
There's plenty of tools for recompiling |
| 23:25 |
cy1 |
it's like "derp this is human assembler rendered for humans in the function body" |
| 23:25 |
NekoGloop |
How do you think people make mods for it? |
| 23:25 |
cy1 |
magic! |
| 23:26 |
iqualfragile |
cy1: minetest has particles |
| 23:26 |
cy1 |
figured they were buddies with Notch or something |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
I for one would love to see something to survive from in MT |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
vombies just dont cut it |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
after all, how hard is it to survive from an immobile thingymabob |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
plus I was hitting a vombie thei other day, I think it was immortal or something |
| 23:27 |
cy1 |
mobs aren't that great... what minetest really really really needs though, is animated nodes. |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
it has that, cy1 |
| 23:28 |
iqualfragile |
the only _real_ advantage minecraft has over minetest is that there are people desining the game |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
see animated lava.water |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
the vombie is still outside my house :/ |
| 23:28 |
cy1 |
Uberi: those aren't animated. Just the textures are.. |
| 23:28 |
NekoGloop |
he means like enchantment tables |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
ah, I see |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
well entities can be animated so hopefully nodes are not too far off |
| 23:28 |
iqualfragile |
we can have animated nodes |
| 23:29 |
cy1 |
you can see in minecraft the water smoothly changes shapes client-side, instead of disappearing as half pouring and reappearing as full pouring as in minetest. |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
you kidding... |
| 23:29 |
Uberi |
in MT most of the action is server side |
| 23:29 |
cy1 |
no? I only can see minecraft on the Youtubes so maybe I'm missing something... |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
notch or jeb dont talk with the community, they talk AT it |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
see: twitter |
| 23:30 |
cy1 |
uh, 'k |
| 23:30 |
cy1 |
and yet |
| 23:30 |
cy1 |
notch and jeb are the ones making all the money off of minecraft |
| 23:30 |
iqualfragile |
afaik the minetest-water has ~12 diferent levels |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
dont forget Dinnerbone |
| 23:30 |
iqualfragile |
so it might look smooth |
| 23:30 |
NakedFury |
minecraft water is better |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
he gets money too |
| 23:30 |
Uberi |
and all the employees |
| 23:30 |
cy1 |
iqualfragile: yeah it's not too bad... |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
nah |
| 23:30 |
Uberi |
they have salaries, I presume |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
just those three |
| 23:31 |
Uberi |
unless they're working for the free soda in the cafeteria |
| 23:31 |
NekoGloop |
prolly |
| 23:31 |
cy1 |
minetest has a protocol message to remove blocks, and to add blocks, but no message to move blocks. so the only way to "animate" a block is to remove it from one place, and add it to another. |
| 23:32 |
cy1 |
so even if clients could animate the node moving from point A to point B, the server couldn't tell them when to do it. |
| 23:32 |
cy1 |
but it's just a lot of work, especially since minetest groups nodes into 8x8x8 blocks so you can't update just one node instead a whole block, or something. |
| 23:32 |
NekoGloop |
see: sand |
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| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
and there's a function called nodeupdate(pos) |
| 23:33 |
Octupus |
hola |
| 23:33 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: sand logic is like: remove the sand node, create a clientCAO (not a node) that falls, then remove it, then add a sand node where it fell. |
| 23:34 |
NekoGloop |
minecraft sand is an entity in a block |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
yes the __builtin:falling_node thing is an entity |
| 23:34 |
cy1 |
it should just be animate the sand node to fall down. |
| 23:34 |
cy1 |
not destroy the node, create an intangible cubical object that can't be placed on a map or collide with anything, etc... |
| 23:34 |
babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: the minecraft falling sand isnt breakable |
| 23:35 |
Octupus |
hi babyface1031 |
| 23:35 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: i dont know if you saw but the industry mod isnt on the server yet |
| 23:35 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: really? hm... |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
its the same logic, just done faster |
| 23:35 |
cy1 |
well, the logic works great for sand, but not so much for vombies. |
| 23:35 |
Octupus |
babyface1031,patience young grasshopper |
| 23:36 |
cy1 |
or pigs |
| 23:36 |
cy1 |
I saw a node based pig mob once. |
| 23:36 |
cy1 |
couldn't move, so it just had to destroy itself and receate itself elsewhere. |
| 23:36 |
babyface1031 |
i am patience i was asking if it could be added and he thought it already was so i was informing him |
| 23:37 |
cy1 |
So you'd kill the pig mob, after it had started removing itself, then it'd just appear elsewhere and you get no meat :c |
| 23:37 |
NekoGloop |
patience, young minetestian |
| 23:37 |
Uberi |
cy1: the mobs mod uses moving entities quite fine |
| 23:37 |
cy1 |
babyface1031: industry mod is marktraceur's project, so it's most likely on his server. |
| 23:38 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
| 23:38 |
cy1 |
Uberi: you can walk through vombies. They can overlap. They flicker. They don't stop taking resources with distance. :/ |
| 23:38 |
cy1 |
they don't actually exist on the map, because they're not nodes. server refers to them by a list of integers totally separate from any positional thingy. |
| 23:39 |
Uberi |
cy1: that's a problem with entities, no? they should be improved rather than making nodes soemthing they are not |
| 23:39 |
Uberi |
entities are meant for moving things |
| 23:39 |
Uberi |
and nodes for static things in the world |
| 23:39 |
Uberi |
we should have entity collision, is what I'm saying |
| 23:39 |
cy1 |
hmm... |
| 23:39 |
Uberi |
that would address your concerns quite well, I think |
| 23:40 |
cy1 |
I suppose you're right. But what about the distance thing? |
| 23:40 |
Octupus |
babyface1031,we got the needed person on the red team everything spot is fulled up now |
| 23:40 |
babyface1031 |
cool |
| 23:40 |
cy1 |
ABMs stop Activating when further away, but CAOs stick around. Bogs down the client like crazy and the server goes nuts with 10000 vombies on the map. |
| 23:40 |
Uberi |
cy1: distance thing? |
| 23:41 |
Uberi |
caos are not active when the chunk they're in is unloaded |
| 23:41 |
cy1 |
oh yeah |
| 23:41 |
Uberi |
in fact they get serialized, and you can optionally remove them at this point |
| 23:41 |
cy1 |
that other problem |
| 23:41 |
cy1 |
chunks are never unloaded :l |
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| 23:41 |
Uberi |
hey mauvebic |
| 23:41 |
cy1 |
well maybe it's just my client, eh. |
| 23:41 |
Uberi |
cy1: they should be... |
| 23:42 |
leo_rockway |
cy1: is that why mobs stop responding and walk idly after a while? |
| 23:42 |
cy1 |
wish there was a "unload this block" command. |
| 23:42 |
Uberi |
leo_rockway: that is possibly lag |
| 23:42 |
leo_rockway |
Uberi: locally |
| 23:42 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 23:42 |
Uberi |
cy1: I'd like a "load this chunk" command more, personally :) |
| 23:42 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I responded |
| 23:42 |
Uberi |
leo_rockway: in that case it beats me |
| 23:42 |
cy1 |
leo_rockway: I put a thing in my server that stops caring about distant mobs once. Didn't work so well though, because it's the server that tells them to obey gravity <3 |
| 23:43 |
babyface1031 |
sorry must of been when i timed out and couldnt see anyone talking including me |
| 23:43 |
cy1 |
Uberi: pff people would spam that like it were an elevator button |
| 23:43 |
OldCoder |
He has one set of mods I'd like to try after I finish 0.4.4 upgrade. Not sure if that is the same set. |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
cy1: nah I mean as part of the modding API |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
World Anchors! |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
minetest.env:load_chunk() |
| 23:43 |
cy1 |
hm, so a mod command to send a block to the client... |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: would do wonders for my bigger mesecons stuff |
| 23:44 |
cy1 |
Uberi: they're called blocks btw. MapBlock |
| 23:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
Where is world anchors |
| 23:44 |
cy1 |
maybe better to call them chunks... |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
really? all this time I've been calling them chunks |
| 23:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
WHO SAID WORLD ANCHORS |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
YOU DID |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
WORLD ANCHORS |
| 23:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
Who made them? |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
nobody, yet |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: Railcraft |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
:P |
| 23:44 |
babyface1031 |
ok |
| 23:44 |
cy1 |
Uberi: it is pretty silly, since nodes are (usually) block shaped. but blocks are 8x8 node collections plus metaetc plus objects. better to call blocks chunks then. |
| 23:45 |
Uberi |
which reminds me, I should poke around the code and see how hard that would be to add |
| 23:49 |
NekoGloop |
... as conversation abruptly ends... |
| 23:49 |
cy1 |
brb hackin |
| 23:52 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzJ30XoDvQ |
| 23:52 |
moltenbot |
harrison's link: Mule Eternal - YouTube |
| 23:52 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk |
| 23:52 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube |
| 23:55 |
cy1 |
Uberi: in src/server.cpp there's a Server::SendBlocks function that sends the blocks aka chunks, calls Server::SendBlockNoLock repeatedly, which uses the con::Connection (src/connection.cpp) to send the data down to the client. |
| 23:55 |
cy1 |
via the UDP socket |
| 23:56 |
cy1 |
hope that helps |
| 23:56 |
Uberi |
neat, thanks |
| 23:57 |
cy1 |
Uberi: there's also a separate message TOCLIENT_ADDNODE that can send individual nodes Server::sendAddNode dispatches it similarly. |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
hmm, but block loading is done server side, no? |
| 23:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
yea |
| 23:58 |
cy1 |
The admin griefing known as "anticheat" uses that sendAddNode thing to send 'em one at a time, instead of the whole block/chunk. |
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| 23:58 |
cy1 |
so, you should be able to send both nodes and blocks whenever you want, just by exposing those to the lua API in scriptapi.cpp! |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
cy1: fascinating, do you have a link to that? |
| 23:59 |
cy1 |
to the minetest source...? |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
the anticheat thing, I mean |
