| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
cy1 |
darkrose convinced celeron55 to include that in the C++ afaik. |
| 00:00 |
cy1 |
might have been that menche guy though I forget |
| 00:00 |
cy1 |
so it's in the actual source. |
| 00:00 |
Uberi |
wow, neat |
| 00:00 |
cy1 |
you have to say disable_anticheat = true in your config or your server griefs ppl |
| 00:01 |
cy1 |
that and backporting |
| 00:01 |
cy1 |
no option to disable that, but it's easy to comment out the actual teleport. |
| 00:01 |
NekoGloop |
backporting is part of the disable_anticheat |
| 00:02 |
cy1 |
oh? Didn't think it was... |
| 00:03 |
cy1 |
oh, yeah it is. hm... |
| 00:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Here, i hope this makes it into the credits or whatever https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/minetest-welcome |
| 00:03 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest - Welcome by Jordan Craige on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free |
| 00:04 |
cy1 |
yeah my bad, they both get disabled with anticheat then. |
| 00:04 |
cy1 |
disable_anticheat I mean. |
| 00:04 |
cy1 |
it's still a good idea to hax the source though to enable speedhax checks, so you can record them without actually teleporting the player. |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile |
night |
| 00:12 |
cy1 |
jordan4ibanez: it's OK but the piano's a bit heavy. perhaps something more uh... sinusoidal? |
| 00:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
and then i hope this makes it in as some type of cd or jukebox |
| 00:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
https://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige/minetest-night |
| 00:12 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest - Night by Jordan Craige on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free |
| 00:15 |
Uberi |
oh yeah I made a mirror of api.minetest.net: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-API/wiki |
| 00:15 |
moltenbot |
Uberi's link: Home ? Uberi/MineTest-API Wiki ? GitHub |
| 00:15 |
cy1 |
actually, that second song might make a better intro, and the former a night theme? like, laying down for bed maybe? |
| 00:16 |
Uberi |
this, unlike the api.minetest.net, is editable by anyone with an account |
| 00:18 |
cy1 |
hm... |
| 00:18 |
cy1 |
neat |
| 00:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
cy1, yea, i need to find a better sample |
| 00:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
firefox 17.1 runs like a pile of shit lol |
| 00:21 |
Uberi|Away |
are we on v17 already? |
| 00:22 |
Uberi|Away |
seems like just yesterday they were pushing out v4 |
| 00:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yep, very bloated already, WHY FIREFOX WHY |
| 00:23 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, it's called chromium |
| 00:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
No, there's no chromium for windows lol |
| 00:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
or sdkiron is as close as it comes to that |
| 00:25 |
cy1 |
>using windows |
| 00:25 |
cy1 |
>2010 |
| 00:25 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, oh, I thought you upgraded to linux |
| 00:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
I dualboot and run linux in a virtual machine, what is it with you people and hating windows? |
| 00:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
t |
| 00:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well i guess opening tabs in quassel doesn't work anymore lol |
| 00:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is 2012, if you still get angry at someone for what operating system they're using, well go outdoors lol |
| 00:28 |
Uberi|Away |
some people just want to hate on something |
| 00:28 |
Uberi|Away |
I say let them |
| 00:28 |
Uberi|Away |
better Windows than racial minorities |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
i dont hate windows |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
i think all the major operating sysems are "out to get me" lol |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
everytime you find something that work someone has to go and change it, its universal to all OSses lol |
| 01:07 |
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| 01:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/Dzz6lUsF19g |
| 01:19 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Simon's Cat in 'Icecapade' - YouTube |
| 01:28 |
NakedFury |
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5135604/Technic%20Recipe%20Book.pdf |
| 01:28 |
NakedFury |
for technic users |
| 01:28 |
Uberi |
awesome! |
| 01:29 |
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| 01:30 |
NakedFury |
im gonna keep it update as more technic stuff comes up |
| 01:31 |
kizeren |
hi |
| 01:31 |
OldCoder |
GBBack |
| 01:31 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 01:32 |
Uberi |
hey OldCoder |
| 01:32 |
OldCoder |
Uberi, Hi |
| 01:35 |
kizeren |
Is there a trash feature or some way to get rid of extra blocks? |
| 01:35 |
Uberi |
kizeren: yes, in MT0.4.4 |
| 01:35 |
Uberi |
see the trash field in your inventory |
| 01:35 |
Uberi |
there is also the /pulverize chat command |
| 01:36 |
kizeren |
Well darn. The server I play on is 0.4.3 |
| 01:37 |
Uberi |
ah yes the server decides the inventory formspec, unfortunately |
| 01:37 |
Uberi |
but /pulverize has been around since forever |
| 01:38 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: 0.4.4 doesn't add that, my server doesn't have it |
| 01:38 |
marktraceur |
kizeren: There's a trash field in some mod, probably unified inventory or something. VanessaE's server had it, but I'm not sure which mod it was. |
| 01:38 |
kizeren |
I am on Calouins server. Not sure if I spelt his name right or not though. |
| 01:39 |
kizeren |
But I just tried pulverize and it worked but it seems the item must be in hand first which could be kind of dangerous if your in a hurry. |
| 01:41 |
Uberi |
pretty sure pilzadam opened a pull request a while ago |
| 01:42 |
Uberi |
I remember seeing it merged |
| 01:42 |
Uberi |
yeah be careful with that kizeren |
| 01:42 |
NakedFury |
using pulverize is for everyone. make sure you are using-as in item is in hand-the item you want to delete |
| 01:45 |
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| 01:48 |
Uberi |
oh hey is anyone else having issues with forum email notifications? |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
hopefully not I was sending notifications to people a few hours ago |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
also can someone send me a test email (http://minetest.net/forum/misc.php?email=640)? I seem to be having trouble receiving the emails |
| 01:49 |
moltenbot |
Uberi's link: Forum message - Minetest Forums |
| 01:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
i got the npc to face forward walking :) |
| 01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Now i just have to figure out how to get this to randomize |
| 02:03 |
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| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
Yup, now my ipad is banned from #minecraft |
| 02:06 |
Uberi|AoS |
why? |
| 02:06 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: That's ironic! |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
Accidental ban evasion. |
| 02:06 |
Uberi|AoS |
darn |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
My inner geek died a little on the inside. |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
Not like i'm missing anything. |
| 02:07 |
MiJyn |
well you missed the amazing rumours about how horrible minetest is lol |
| 02:07 |
MiJyn |
jk |
| 02:08 |
kizeren |
Sticky pistons turn when stuck to each other.......are they suppose to do this ? |
| 02:08 |
Uberi|AoS |
kizeren: oh I must have broken that a while ago |
| 02:09 |
Uberi|AoS |
or maybe jeija did with the node def update |
| 02:09 |
kizeren |
Does that make sense what I said? |
| 02:10 |
Uberi|AoS |
yeah |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
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| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
If I set up a new Europe VPS... |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
what country would be best for Europe MT people? |
| 02:11 |
OldCoder |
Old VPS would stay BTW |
| 02:15 |
kizeren |
I was trying to make an invisible door......dang pistons kept turning....locking me out. |
| 02:18 |
Uberi|AoS |
what version do you have, kizeren |
| 02:18 |
kizeren |
I was using calouns server then I realized can't do delays through recipet yet. So going to try on personal server which I just updated two days ago. |
| 02:26 |
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| 02:28 |
kizeren |
Just tried works fine on my personal server. |
| 02:36 |
NakedFury |
the next Stuff Book Project will be mesecons |
| 02:37 |
telek |
OldCoder: I can't remember which country, but one of them has GigE to the home, guy I know had it and was doing commercial hosting out of his house. Might be worth further research. |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
telek, ty |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
telek, Looks like I will be setting up in Germany |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
IIRC My existing Europe server is France |
| 02:42 |
OldCoder |
So; I will be in France and Germany |
| 02:43 |
telek |
Cool, G/L! :) *afks for evening* |
| 02:49 |
* OldCoder |
nods |
| 02:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
now the npc looks at you when you're in radius :D |
| 02:49 |
NakedFury |
jordan what is your plan with the npcs? |
| 02:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Make houses for them to live in like villagers in minecraft, you know, actual villagers |
| 02:50 |
NakedFury |
in the end something like Millenaire in MInecraft? |
| 02:51 |
NakedFury |
farm, mine, trade, defend, expand? something like that |
| 02:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yep |
| 02:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Maybe |
| 02:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
I don't know |
| 02:54 |
NakedFury |
but first is a framework of npc |
| 02:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
I like the style of mobs in minecraft, not all of them, not the new ones, but old ones that were stupid |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
What, skeletons who didnt have perfect fucking accuracy? |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
I mean, they dont have eyes. How do they never miss when coming around a corner? |
| 02:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
I mean, i hope to write the mob AI for this game lol |
| 02:58 |
NakedFury |
I would prefer mobs that had diferent type of AI, line of sight or hearing or smelling, no 100% hitting aim, certain level of stupidity and tactics-for some. |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
For a being such as the endermen, yeah, i guess they could be allowed to see through walls and stuff. |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
But skeletons? |
| 03:00 |
NakedFury |
well lets create the Rules of Mobs here. Skeletons and zombies are dead. skeletons dont have skin or muscles or eyes or ears or noses so how would we go to make them work? |
| 03:01 |
NekoGloop |
They are animated by magic |
| 03:01 |
NakedFury |
ok so what works in them with that magic? |
| 03:01 |
NakedFury |
how would they see? sort of infrared vision? |
| 03:02 |
NakedFury |
body heat? |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
Basically they are given artificial sight and muscle. |
| 03:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
It's a game |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
Do i need to explain the mechanics of life in it? |
| 03:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
Right now they are very stupid, it, the randomised math for setting acceleration makes them super random, sometimes the npcs run in place |
| 03:03 |
NakedFury |
if this stuff isnt thought off then we will get crap monsters into the game |
| 03:03 |
Uberi|Away |
well maybe the skeletons and zombies are all dead versions of the player who keeps dying |
| 03:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'll make a video of an npc party in a little :D |
| 03:03 |
Uberi |
wooo |
| 03:05 |
NakedFury |
thats what happened to endermen, they werent designed very well so when they were implemented ungrateful players raged |
| 03:05 |
mauvebic |
NPCs +1 :-) |
| 03:06 |
mauvebic |
terminator-style HK's :-) |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
jordan npcs could have a set of stats like in Sims that dictate what they will do. Hunger, Mood, Sleep, Tireness level, work, and maybe entertainment(too much work and they wont go until this bar is full or from 75 to 100%) |
| 03:08 |
NakedFury |
too complex I guess for now |
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| 03:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
celeron55, can you have it so the /clearobjects command looks for the boolean "mob" in an entity, and if it's true do not delete entity? |
| 03:19 |
Uberi |
well clearobjects is supposed to clear all objects, not all objects except mobs |
| 03:19 |
NekoGloop |
Like /killall in spc |
| 03:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
well a mob isn't an object, you could add a command /killall which searches for entities with "mob" bool in them then delete those |
| 03:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
like neko just said |
| 03:20 |
Uberi |
wait, are mobs not objects now? |
| 03:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
they are |
| 03:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
entities |
| 03:21 |
Uberi |
so should clearobjects not extend to include them? |
| 03:21 |
Uberi |
I mean, we might need to rename it to /clearobjectsexceptfortheoneswithveryspecificcharacteristics |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
One for actual objects, one for mobs. |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
Pfft |
| 03:22 |
NekoGloop |
Stupid colloquy, only sending half a message |
| 03:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
all i wanted was for /clearobjects to clear objects and /killmobs to kill mobs lol |
| 03:23 |
NekoGloop |
/clearobjects and /killall. |
| 03:23 |
NakedFury |
add /clearinventory |
| 03:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh yea, and i can make giants, like notch never put in |
| 03:23 |
NakedFury |
a mega version of pulverize |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, that would be nice, nf. |
| 03:24 |
Uberi |
well I think /clearobjects should stick to clearing objects, and we add a new command: /clearenvironment |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: Technically they're in there. |
| 03:24 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: giants would be great! |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
Just not spawnable |
| 03:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
i can make them spawn |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
1337 map hackers have put them in maps |
| 03:25 |
Uberi |
they add a new element of challenge to the game |
| 03:26 |
NakedFury |
if you make giants make them be like 10 or 8 blocks high. TITANS should be the 30 something high like in minecraft |
| 03:27 |
Uberi |
aw yeah |
| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
Then god who is 100 blocks tall |
| 03:27 |
Uberi |
and they should be designed for maybe 2 or 3 people to take down |
| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
And shoots lightning at you, which is instant death |
| 03:28 |
Uberi |
and blows up all blocks in a 1000 block radius |
| 03:28 |
Uberi |
and deletes your map if you die |
| 03:29 |
NekoGloop |
Lolno |
| 03:29 |
Uberi |
and then uninstalls MineTest |
| 03:29 |
NakedFury |
giants can tople trees and smash cobble and man made stuff. titans make the ground tremble and the screen shake and can create craters when they stomp or or hit the ground. we got to go with realistic here to make it fun |
| 03:29 |
Uberi |
call it super-hardcore mode |
| 03:29 |
NekoGloop |
All blocks in a 1337 block radius, Uberi. |
| 03:29 |
Uberi |
perfect! |
| 03:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
i have a shit ton of them spawned and it's not even lagging |
| 03:30 |
NekoGloop |
Show usssss! |
| 03:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
when the mobs are standing around, and you're in their radius, they'll stare at you |
| 03:30 |
Uberi |
that means they're not powerful enough |
| 03:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
and then they'll randomly walk around |
| 03:31 |
Uberi |
it's not powerful enough until there's unplayable lag |
| 03:31 |
Uberi |
make a video/screenshot! |
| 03:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
Video is uploading |
| 03:41 |
Uberi |
can't wait |
| 03:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
They can't jump yet, but i'm going to code that right now |
| 03:42 |
NekoGloop |
This feels like those lines in front of major game stores when a popular game is being released. |
| 03:42 |
NekoGloop |
Something that's funny to watch, not to be in. |
| 03:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
This feels like what i missed in minecraft infdev, only i'm the one coding it lol |
| 03:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
Next thing i'm going to do: jumping, and random skins |
| 03:45 |
NekoGloop |
Next: connected textures. |
| 03:45 |
NekoGloop |
pl0x nao |
| 03:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/q6ameMq1DBk |
| 03:47 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Full Minecraft Soundtrack Updated W/ Weather! - YouTube |
| 03:47 |
NekoGloop |
Wat |
| 03:47 |
NekoGloop |
:< |
| 03:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Good songs lol |
| 03:47 |
NekoGloop |
Disappoint leveled up |
| 03:47 |
NekoGloop |
^ meme now |
| 03:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
well then fine, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHSR5VG0uU |
| 03:49 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Soft Music to Relax "Morning Light" Relaxing, Rewind, and Recharge with Soft, Calming Piano Music - YouTube |
| 03:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
reminds me of shining time station theme from when i was a wee lad lol |
| 03:49 |
NekoGloop |
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk |
| 03:50 |
NekoGloop |
Lol the bot is ignoring my links now. *mission accomplished* |
| 03:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHSR5VG0uU |
| 03:50 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Soft Music to Relax "Morning Light" Relaxing, Rewind, and Recharge with Soft, Calming Piano Music - YouTube |
| 03:51 |
NekoGloop |
XD |
| 03:51 |
NekoGloop |
!up minetest.org |
| 03:51 |
NekoGloop |
heh. |
| 03:51 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 03:52 |
OldCoder |
Up or not? |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
The bot is ignoring me |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
Which is advantageous for me. |
| 03:52 |
OldCoder |
Why? |
| 03:52 |
NekoGloop |
Idk why its ignoring me, but it did the same to kika. |
| 03:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/Mvmb_rOTEI0 |
| 03:52 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: Minetest Mobs - Starting To Get There - YouTube |
| 03:53 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe if the first letter is capitalized it ignores the person? |
| 03:53 |
nekogloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk |
| 03:53 |
nekogloop |
Nope. |
| 03:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
That's the mob video you guys all wanted to see |
| 03:54 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
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jordan4ibanez |
Now mobs can jump :) |
| 04:14 |
NekoGloop |
Byebye |
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jordan4ibanez |
now mobs can actually navigate the terrain for real :D |
| 04:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
In case anyone else would like to try http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=THCZ1AHx |
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parabyte |
okay is there any more info i can read about minetest? |
| 04:43 |
parabyte |
looks very interesting |
| 04:43 |
parabyte |
i presume there is no compatibility with mojang's certain product? |
| 04:44 |
NakedFury |
if you mean convertion tools no. with a mod we can use player skins for the current models and with work minecrafts textures can work with minetest |
| 04:44 |
AquaCake |
Hello |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 04:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hey parabyte! |
| 04:51 |
parabyte |
interesting |
| 04:51 |
parabyte |
jordan4ibanez, hiya :) |
| 04:51 |
parabyte |
Any change with a minecraft map ? |
| 04:52 |
parabyte |
chance |
| 04:52 |
parabyte |
sorry its late here |
| 04:52 |
parabyte |
or early lol |
| 04:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think i can release these mobs now |
| 04:54 |
parabyte |
is the minetest servers busy? |
| 04:54 |
AquaCake |
depends which one? |
| 04:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
with this mob api i can make minecraft creepers lol |
| 04:57 |
NakedFury |
parabyte the game would need a minecraft to minetest conversion tool to work and also provided you had appropiate textures and items created for the default or all stuff that minecraft map had |
| 04:59 |
parabyte |
i run a small minecraft website and just cant get my head around why they written the server Daemon in java |
| 04:59 |
parabyte |
i just cannot get my head around it |
| 04:59 |
parabyte |
its eating my server's resources good |
| 05:01 |
parabyte |
so taking it down in next week or so |
| 05:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
celeron55 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4023 :D |
| 05:08 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0] 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
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AquaCake |
Thats pretty damn good |
| 05:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
A couple of things i thought of |
| 05:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
since entities can use animations, we can make chests that open up |
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jordan4ibanez |
and thank you |
| 05:38 |
NakedFury |
I am coding minecraft chests to minetest because editing the chest textures is a pain |
| 05:38 |
NakedFury |
at least coding for me |
| 05:39 |
NakedFury |
same for cactus |
| 05:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
goood night |
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sema4 |
wb |
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sema4 |
hi neko |
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thexyz |
i probably should tell Uberi about http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page |
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moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Minetest API |
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AquaCake |
Hello |
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cy1 |
meh |
| 09:00 |
OldCoder |
Hey |
| 09:04 |
AquaCake |
hELLO |
| 09:04 |
AquaCake |
how do i get kubuntu onto my usb and run it? |
| 09:05 |
AquaCake |
when i downloaded it it just gave me express burn |
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AquaCake |
@OldCoder |
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thexyz |
AquaCake: have you downloaded kubuntu ISO? |
| 09:07 |
Aqua_ |
I downloaded the regular one on the site |
| 09:07 |
Aqua_ |
http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts |
| 09:07 |
moltenbot |
Aqua_'s link: Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu |
| 09:07 |
thexyz |
nah, it's not regular one |
| 09:08 |
thexyz |
but fine, if you need LTS version |
| 09:09 |
Aqua_ |
I dont get how you 'Configure your computer to boot from USB flash drive and boot from it ' |
| 09:09 |
thexyz |
have you created bootable usb stick? |
| 09:10 |
Aqua_ |
i dont know how.... |
| 09:10 |
Aqua_ |
i got an empty usb stick |
| 09:10 |
thexyz |
ok, what's your present OS? |
| 09:11 |
Aqua_ |
windows xp |
| 09:11 |
Aqua_ |
3.8gb |
| 09:11 |
thexyz |
k, then download https://launchpad.net/unetbootin/trunk/575/+download/unetbootin-windows-575.exe |
| 09:12 |
Aqua_ |
And then? |
| 09:12 |
thexyz |
run it |
| 09:12 |
thexyz |
click "Diskimage" |
| 09:12 |
thexyz |
select .iso you downloaded from kubuntu.org |
| 09:12 |
thexyz |
then select your USB drive (be careful, it'll erase all data) |
| 09:13 |
thexyz |
then press "OK" |
| 09:13 |
Aqua_ |
VanessaE says u can also choose whether to use kubuntu or windows on boot how do i do this? |
| 09:14 |
Aqua_ |
I dont wanna lose any files |
| 09:14 |
thexyz |
that option will become available after you install it |
| 09:14 |
thexyz |
if you don't want to lose any files, make backups |
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Aqua_ |
Lol can i make backups of microsoft office etc. |
| 09:17 |
Aqua_ |
Can i? |
| 09:17 |
Aqua_ |
is it possible? |
| 09:17 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 09:18 |
thexyz |
but why do you need to backup it, in the first place? |
| 09:19 |
Aqua_ |
Because i need it for work |
| 09:20 |
Aqua_ |
Can you backup a browser? |
| 09:22 |
thexyz |
you can backup everything, this is what backups are made for |
| 09:22 |
Aqua_ |
Will you keep files when you change to kubuntu? |
| 09:22 |
Aqua_ |
But why? |
| 09:23 |
Aqua_ |
I thought all your files will still be there |
| 09:23 |
thexyz |
they will |
| 09:23 |
thexyz |
probably |
| 09:23 |
thexyz |
but as it's your first time with linux distro, better to make backups |
| 09:24 |
Aqua_ |
how big is the risk? |
| 09:25 |
thexyz |
depends on you |
| 09:26 |
Aqua_ |
When i copy and paste into my usb they are just shortcuts will they work? |
| 09:28 |
thexyz |
nah, you'd better stay with windows |
| 09:30 |
Aqua_ |
just gonna try without backups hope it worksw |
| 09:30 |
Aqua_ |
openoffice will do |
| 09:30 |
thexyz |
libreoffice |
| 09:32 |
Aqua_ |
whats a virtual machine? |
| 09:32 |
Aqua_ |
my friend says i cant run it because my laptop isnt powerful enough |
| 09:33 |
sema4 |
a work computer with not-backed-up documents etc is no place to be experimenting with linux installs :) |
| 09:34 |
Aqua_ |
windows xp, intel centrino duo, probaly five yr old dell |
| 09:36 |
Aqua_ |
The only reason i wanted to try it was because a server is easier to run on linux |
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sema4 |
i think i misunderstood, you just want to run linux from the USB stick, not install it eh? |
| 09:38 |
Aqua_ |
yeo |
| 09:38 |
Aqua_ |
yep |
| 09:38 |
sema4 |
however, how is server 'easier' to run from linux? on windows it's just a click of a shortcut |
| 09:39 |
sema4 |
sorry, i have never had to boot from USB stick , so cannot give advice on that :I |
| 09:40 |
thexyz |
sema4: you forgot the compiling part |
| 09:41 |
sema4 |
you don't have to compile on windows, just install the binary |
| 09:41 |
sema4 |
unless you're wanting to run latest from git |
| 09:44 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 09:44 |
OldCoder |
Aqua_, I am falling asleep and cannot buntu right now |
| 09:45 |
OldCoder |
Jordach not here yet? |
| 09:45 |
OldCoder |
If Jordach stops by somebody pass this on to him: |
| 09:45 |
OldCoder |
Alone not always to atone // Or to madness be prone // Not a contention bone // Be alone off the phone // Skills to hone |
| 09:50 |
OldCoder |
Heh. Jordach: |
| 09:50 |
OldCoder |
@jordansnelling You'd be good at the rhymes profession but avoid obsession // rhymes are fun son // need not be // characters 140 // exactly |
| 09:53 |
OldCoder |
@jordansnelling Redeem it would seem soul will gleam light of beam to shine your soul and mine rise they will it is a thrill still to redeem |
| 09:54 |
OldCoder |
^ Also 140 characters exactly |
| 09:54 |
sema4 |
heh |
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OldCoder |
One more. I can't help it. 140 characters exactly: |
| 09:57 |
OldCoder |
@jordansnelling But rhyme time is now simple as that pull rhymes out of hat always time rhymes to chime you're not mime rhymes all the times |
| 09:57 |
OldCoder |
Somebody point Jordach to these later |
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devlab |
Hi, what's the propose of 'Desert Stone'? |
| 10:15 |
sema4 |
diversity of materials? |
| 10:15 |
sema4 |
:> |
| 10:16 |
devlab |
Is it like sandstone? |
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sema4 |
well i think if you mine it you get desert sand |
| 10:18 |
sema4 |
rather than sand |
| 10:18 |
* OldCoder |
needs Zzz |
| 10:19 |
sema4 |
OldCoder, me too! |
| 10:19 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
| 10:20 |
sema4 |
devlab, there is a mod that is supposed to make desert sand/stone more useful: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3761 |
| 10:20 |
moltenbot |
sema4's link: [Mod] More Useful Deserts [3] [desert_uses] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 10:35 |
devlab |
brb |
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sema4 |
well i am done for the night. tot ziens! |
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devlab |
what's the maximum light level available in minetest? |
| 10:47 |
devlab |
15? |
| 10:47 |
thexyz |
14 |
| 10:47 |
devlab |
can it be upped? |
| 10:48 |
thexyz |
sun emits 15, nodes can only emit up to 14 |
| 10:48 |
devlab |
lights+ is the mod in question |
| 10:48 |
thexyz |
this can be useful to check if node is directly under the sky |
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thexyz |
s/useful/used |
| 10:49 |
thexyz |
well, weren't you asking about engine limits? |
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devlab |
yes, |
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thexyz |
marktraceur: have you succeeded in porting overviewer to minetest? |
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* KikaRz |
waves to telek. |
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KikaRz |
meh |
| 14:10 |
KikaRz |
everyone still offline |
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thexyz |
yep |
| 14:10 |
* NekoGloop |
slaps KikaRz with a large tout |
| 14:10 |
NekoGloop |
pfft |
| 14:10 |
NekoGloop |
fuck English. |
| 14:10 |
NekoGloop |
:< |
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* KikaRz |
puts the trout in NekoGloop's ass. |
| 14:10 |
NekoGloop |
eww |
| 14:11 |
KikaRz |
hahahahah |
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devlab |
Ouch, ahaha |
| 14:11 |
KikaRz |
you got a fish in your *ss. |
| 14:11 |
NekoGloop |
It's all wet and slimy |
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KikaRz |
xd |
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KikaRz |
omg, Rythmbox makes the PC get laggy |
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markveidemanis |
HHHHHHHIIIIIIIII... |
| 14:18 |
NekoGloop |
BBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... |
| 14:18 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 14:18 |
KikaRz |
not funny. |
| 14:24 |
KikaRz |
!define mod |
| 14:24 |
KikaRz1 |
!define mod |
| 14:24 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: mod definition: one who wears modern clothes. |
| 14:24 |
* KikaRz1 |
is laughing |
| 14:25 |
KikaRz1 |
!up jariten.sytes.net |
| 14:25 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server jariten.sytes.net:30000 UP |
| 14:26 |
NekoGloop |
!define pie |
| 14:26 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust. |
| 14:26 |
KikaRz1 |
i prefer that: |
| 14:26 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, -now- it listens to me |
| 14:26 |
KikaRz1 |
!define imagination |
| 14:26 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: imagination definition: the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality. |
| 14:26 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, if i change my name , he listens to me |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 14:27 |
KikaRz1 |
Hi PilzAdam |
| 14:27 |
KikaRz1 |
How are you today? |
| 14:27 |
PilzAdam |
fine, thx |
| 14:27 |
KikaRz1 |
It's Tuesday, 11 December 2012. |
| 14:28 |
KikaRz1 |
10 days left to the start of last judgement. |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
wrong |
| 14:28 |
KikaRz1 |
What's wrong? |
| 14:28 |
NekoGloop |
you |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
the world doesnt go down at 21th of December |
| 14:29 |
PilzAdam |
its just false interpretation of the Maya calendar |
| 14:29 |
KikaRz1 |
I hate Maya. |
| 14:29 |
KikaRz1 |
They are prostitutes. |
| 14:30 |
KikaRz1 |
who knows the ip and port of VanessaE's server? |
| 14:31 |
PilzAdam |
24.181.193.82:30000 |
| 14:31 |
PilzAdam |
!up 24.181.193.82 |
| 14:31 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 24.181.193.82:30000 DOWN |
| 14:31 |
KikaRz1 |
:'( |
| 14:31 |
NekoGloop |
666.666.666.666:66666 |
| 14:31 |
KikaRz1 |
VanessaE is out for 2 days. |
| 14:31 |
KikaRz1 |
nekogloop, we aren't from hell. otherwise like you. |
| 14:31 |
KikaRz1 |
!up 666.666.666.666 6666 |
| 14:31 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 666.666.666.666:6666 DOWN |
| 14:31 |
KikaRz1 |
!up 666.666.666.666 66666 |
| 14:31 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 666.666.666.666:66666 DOWN |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz1 |
Its down. You must go to hell's server. |
| 14:32 |
NekoGloop |
that would have been hilarious, and a little creepy, if that said up |
| 14:32 |
devlab |
max ip range: 0.0.0.0-255.255.255.255 |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz1 |
i know |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop thinks that range is up to 666.666.666.666. he's from hell. satan. |
| 14:33 |
NekoGloop |
!up 66.66.66.66 66666 |
| 14:33 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 66.66.66.66:66666 DOWN |
| 14:34 |
KikaRz1 |
... |
| 14:35 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, we've already said: We aren't from hell. |
| 14:35 |
KikaRz1 |
that should be internet in Hell. The pedofilians and robbers are in hell... so... they still alive in internet. |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
PilzAdam, how i can get your boats mod? |
| 14:36 |
PilzAdam |
click the download link |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
do you know all list of VanessaE's mods? i want to get the mods |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
to make a boat rac |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
*race |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
and rail |
| 14:36 |
KikaRz1 |
what download link? |
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| 14:49 |
devlab |
i just cleaned 99*3 gravel, |
| 14:49 |
devlab |
what the? |
| 14:50 |
NekoGloop |
so? |
| 14:50 |
devlab |
Why is it like that? |
| 14:51 |
NekoGloop |
like what? |
| 14:51 |
KikaRz1 |
.c 99*3 |
| 14:51 |
KikaRz1 |
!c 99*3 |
| 14:51 |
Minetest-tan |
297 |
| 14:52 |
KikaRz1 |
thank you Minetest-tan |
| 14:52 |
NekoGloop |
there's also this neat application built into windows that is called a calculator |
| 14:55 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, i don't have Windows. |
| 14:55 |
NekoGloop |
sucks to be you |
| 14:55 |
KikaRz1 |
... |
| 14:56 |
KikaRz1 |
I'll put this in your house |
| 14:56 |
KikaRz1 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2902 |
| 14:56 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz1's link: [Mod] TNT [tnt] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
| 14:57 |
KikaRz1 |
OldCoder!!! My angel *--* |
| 14:58 |
KikaRz1 |
One question: I can create a minetest_game copy? |
| 14:58 |
KikaRz1 |
like minetest2_game ? |
| 14:58 |
KikaRz1 |
to have another kit of mods |
| 14:58 |
NekoGloop |
yes |
| 14:58 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 14:58 |
KikaRz1 |
Ok :) |
| 14:58 |
OldCoder |
I have about 5 of them |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz1 |
and OldCoder, my MP4 is finally updated. |
| 14:59 |
OldCoder |
Good |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz1 |
(with more recent musics |
| 14:59 |
OldCoder |
Enjoy |
| 14:59 |
KikaRz1 |
Thxs |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz1 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598 -- List of Mods needed. |
| 15:00 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz1's link: [Modpack] MM2 [moved] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz1 |
With boat mod and carts mod, ill make a copy of my cousin's world |
| 15:00 |
KikaRz1 |
youtube.com/JGBBPT |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz1 |
(minecraft adventure) |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz1 |
Guys, soon in the maps: Cart / Boats races. |
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RealBadAngel |
aaAAA bike for sale, cheap |
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| 15:07 |
PilzAdam |
hi RBA |
| 15:07 |
RealBadAngel |
hi :) |
| 15:07 |
KikaRz1 |
hi RBA :) |
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RealBadAngel |
i hate riding the bike winter time :) |
| 15:07 |
KikaRz1 |
how much it costs? |
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| 15:08 |
KikaRz1 |
Hi Penguin |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz1 |
Hi Morrolan |
| 15:08 |
Penguin |
Hi |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
2 beers and its yours |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz1 |
Hi milleja46 |
| 15:08 |
KikaRz1 |
You must be kidding me. |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
a bit |
| 15:09 |
Penguin |
Jejia ? |
| 15:09 |
RealBadAngel |
its a good bike, but that snow |
| 15:09 |
NekoGloop |
2 beers? |
| 15:09 |
NekoGloop |
is it a 6pack for the car? |
| 15:09 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz1 |
yea |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz1 |
is it? |
| 15:09 |
KikaRz1 |
i have a driving card. |
| 15:10 |
NekoGloop |
to RBA, beer is currency. |
| 15:10 |
KikaRz1 |
NOOOO |
| 15:10 |
RealBadAngel |
better than gold |
| 15:10 |
KikaRz1 |
Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error. |
| 15:10 |
KikaRz1 |
If you notice further problems, try restarting the computer. |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
Show details --- Contue |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
*Continue |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
which one i press? |
| 15:11 |
NekoGloop |
Sorry, you arent running Windows. So fuck you. |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, no flamming. |
| 15:11 |
devlab |
That's Hilarious |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
OldCoder. |
| 15:11 |
RealBadAngel |
if you experience further problems please use the hammer |
| 15:11 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz1 |
| 15:11 |
KikaRz1 |
Answer me. |
| 15:12 |
KikaRz1 |
Thunar's fault. |
| 15:12 |
Penguin |
Hi OldCoder |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
me to-, me too |
| 15:12 |
KikaRz1 |
ExecutablePath > /usr/bin/Thunar |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
is Eu 0.4.4 ?? |
| 15:12 |
KikaRz1 |
yea. |
| 15:12 |
KikaRz1 |
OldCoder, what i do? Continue? |
| 15:13 |
devlab |
where'd you get this error? |
| 15:13 |
KikaRz1 |
when i was extracting a mod. |
| 15:13 |
KikaRz1 |
PilzAdam Cart's mod. |
| 15:14 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz1, what produced the error? Penguin hi |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
a) check the folder names |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
b) check the folder names |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 15:14 |
KikaRz1 |
OldCoder, when i was extracting the carts mod |
| 15:14 |
KikaRz1 |
RealBadAngel, not in game |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
in the ubuntu. |
| 15:15 |
RealBadAngel |
whenever |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
OldCoder, Thunar |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz1, What was the extract command? |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
nothing |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 15:15 |
RealBadAngel |
mod dir shall be named boats |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
i was using a extractor |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
not extractor |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Use unzip |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
meh |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Not Thunar |
| 15:15 |
devlab |
file roller? |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
Not thunar |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
devlab, not maintained |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
i didnt used thunar |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Use unzip |
| 15:15 |
RealBadAngel |
archive manager? |
| 15:15 |
KikaRz1 |
Maybe. |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Have not tried it |
| 15:16 |
KikaRz1 |
now its not giving me more any problems |
| 15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
martraceur is right |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
we shall really have here a mod manager |
| 15:17 |
KikaRz1 |
yea |
| 15:17 |
KikaRz1 |
i got that problem now again |
| 15:17 |
NekoGloop |
why> |
| 15:17 |
KikaRz1 |
when extracting jeija's mesecons |
| 15:17 |
NekoGloop |
so that you all can claim our mods? |
| 15:17 |
KikaRz1 |
STFU NekoGloop. You using windows. |
| 15:18 |
RealBadAngel |
and minecraft :P |
| 15:18 |
NekoGloop |
no ctcp version ftw |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
-NekoGloop- VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/23.0.1271.95 Safari/537.11 |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
web |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
and windows nt |
| 15:18 |
NekoGloop |
lolno |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
yes you are. |
| 15:18 |
RealBadAngel |
hes on win |
| 15:18 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
Yes you are. |
| 15:18 |
KikaRz1 |
all /ctcp NekoGloop VERSION |
| 15:19 |
NekoGloop |
lol no i'm not |
| 15:19 |
KikaRz1 |
Yes you are |
| 15:19 |
NekoGloop |
I'm on WinXP |
| 15:19 |
NekoGloop |
so fuck off already |
| 15:19 |
KikaRz1 |
Windows NT = kernel |
| 15:19 |
KikaRz1 |
windows xp = OS. |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
meow, not im not... |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
all kitties does the same |
| 15:19 |
KikaRz1 |
ill CTCP Version everyone |
| 15:19 |
NekoGloop |
Why does it say anything about Safari or Mozilla though |
| 15:19 |
KikaRz1 |
who haves windows will be cited |
| 15:20 |
KikaRz1 |
>ChanServ< CTCP VERSION |
| 15:20 |
KikaRz1 |
-ChanServ- VERSION atheme 7.0.5. 3828836d36d6ce8ac87e1a71d0b653e91cf14662 services. cejtR [ircd-seven] Build Date: Oct 10 2012 |
| 15:20 |
KikaRz1 |
that is? |
| 15:20 |
devlab |
I'm on openSUSE, Koversation |
| 15:20 |
NekoGloop |
that's called not a user... |
| 15:20 |
KikaRz1 |
I know you dumb |
| 15:21 |
KikaRz1 |
AndrewPH is using Windows 7. (hexchat) |
| 15:21 |
NekoGloop |
petition to +q KikaRz1 |
| 15:22 |
devlab |
really? |
| 15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
who cares |
| 15:23 |
KikaRz1 |
OMG, a lot of non answered CTCP's. |
| 15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
in 10 days we gonna have the end of the world anyways |
| 15:23 |
NekoGloop |
because they block them |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz1 |
Lets list: (not user names, just numbers) |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz1 |
12 has CTCP disabled. |
| 15:24 |
KikaRz1 |
Just to jin_xi! |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz1 |
10 are using Linux |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz1 |
2 are using WIndows ( |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz1 |
let em continue |
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KikaRz1 |
Ok, continuing to tango_... I presume that CTCP disabled people are from Linux (except NekoGloop. |
| 15:30 |
marktraceur |
theTroy: Nope |
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KikaRz1 |
So... 2+2=4 Windows - 12+28 CTCP disabled - 10+4 Linux |
| 15:32 |
KikaRz1 |
!c 12+28 |
| 15:32 |
Minetest-tan |
40 |
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KikaRz1 |
So, 40 CTCP Disabled - 5 Windows - 14 Linuxs. |
| 15:32 |
KikaRz1 |
Let me continue. |
| 15:33 |
RealBadAngel |
40 on apples? ;) |
| 15:33 |
celeron55 |
wtf |
| 15:33 |
celeron55 |
KikaRz1: stop it |
| 15:34 |
theTroy |
KikaRz1: CTCP spoof plugin was quite easy to write |
| 15:34 |
KikaRz1 |
celeron55, im making a statistic |
| 15:34 |
theTroy |
and there are also some available |
| 15:34 |
celeron55 |
KikaRz1: you have done that many times already; a single time should be enough for a statistic |
| 15:34 |
theTroy |
like I am spoofing pidgin + linux |
| 15:34 |
celeron55 |
KikaRz1: next time will be a kick |
| 15:34 |
RealBadAngel |
hi celeron55 |
| 15:34 |
KikaRz1 |
... not my problem. NekoGloop started a war. |
| 15:35 |
celeron55 |
CTCP is not appreciated in IRC |
| 15:35 |
KikaRz1 |
of Ops |
| 15:35 |
KikaRz1 |
so, why included it? |
| 15:35 |
celeron55 |
i don't care |
| 15:35 |
theTroy |
and hi celeron55 nice to see you back on irc and glad that minetest is still going :) |
| 15:35 |
theTroy |
best of luck with future progress/projects! |
| 15:36 |
NekoGloop |
he's always here |
| 15:36 |
KikaRz1 |
but away always. |
| 15:37 |
RealBadAngel |
never say never.... |
| 15:37 |
NekoGloop |
fuck bieber. |
| 15:38 |
RealBadAngel |
actually you just tried to fuck bond |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, shut the hell up. I'm tired of hearing you |
| 15:38 |
ecube |
KikaRz1: why you ctcp me so much |
| 15:38 |
RealBadAngel |
youre brave ;) |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz1 |
ecube, not |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz1 |
just 1 time |
| 15:38 |
ecube |
1 time is 1 too much... |
| 15:38 |
NekoGloop |
kika, we're all tired of you |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz1 |
And of you NekoGloop |
| 15:39 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 15:39 |
ecube |
nah, I like NekoGloop |
| 15:39 |
celeron55 |
both statements are true |
| 15:43 |
KikaRz1 |
PilzAdam, where is farming_plus? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787 |
| 15:43 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz1's link: [Mod] Farming [farming] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 15:43 |
KikaRz1 |
at the end of topic? |
| 15:43 |
KikaRz1 |
Ok, i found it |
| 15:46 |
KikaRz1 |
RealBadAngel, your unified_inventory is in forums? |
| 15:48 |
NakedFury |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3933 |
| 15:48 |
moltenbot |
NakedFury's link: [mod] Unified Inventory [0.9] [unifiedinventory] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 15:48 |
KikaRz1 |
thank you |
| 15:48 |
KikaRz1 |
when i was trying to find mod in forums, i didnt find it |
| 15:49 |
KikaRz1 |
latest? |
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| 15:51 |
KikaRz1 |
Welcome Back Jordach |
| 15:51 |
Jordach |
another name to the ignore list |
| 15:51 |
KikaRz1 |
?? |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - nice rhymes. |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
140 characters :-) |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
Exactly |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
good. |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
real good. |
| 15:56 |
devlab |
hey Celeron |
| 15:56 |
NekoGloop |
why are you talking to a color? |
| 15:56 |
devlab |
? |
| 16:00 |
thexyz |
strange.. Minetest-tan missed a commit |
| 16:00 |
* PilzAdam |
noticed that too |
| 16:00 |
* KikaRz1 |
too. |
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NekoGloop |
kika, no you didnt |
| 16:01 |
NekoGloop |
you're just taking the credit |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz1 |
Yes i did. |
| 16:01 |
KikaRz1 |
im on github |
| 16:02 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/52ba413185f96add259c480a68f5dffa389e80f4 |
| 16:02 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz1's link: Only fly through walls in noclip mode wich requires the noclip privilege ? 52ba413 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 16:03 |
NekoGloop |
so am i |
| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
i just honestly dont give a fuck about things i cant do anything about |
| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
too lazy to compile |
| 16:04 |
KikaRz1 |
so, shut up. |
| 16:04 |
PilzAdam |
s/too lazy to compile/cant compile because im on windows |
| 16:04 |
KikaRz1 |
NekoGloop ignored. Reason: Too lazy to talk. |
| 16:05 |
NekoGloop |
I can compile |
| 16:05 |
KikaRz1 |
PilzAdam, it's possible to compile on windows. |
| 16:05 |
NekoGloop |
I've done it before |
| 16:06 |
thexyz |
what've you compiled? hello world? |
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NekoGloop |
minetest |
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KikaRz1 |
RealBadAngel, does your inventory include Food recipes? |
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thexyz |
NekoGloop: did it run? |
| 16:10 |
NekoGloop |
yes |
| 16:11 |
NekoGloop |
at 5fps because stupid me didnt close cmake or MSVC++ first. |
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marktraceur |
Sorry, theTroy, I meant to say "nope" to thexyz |
| 16:12 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I haven't run overviewer on minetest, no |
| 16:13 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz1: You've cleverly^Waccidentally avoided my /ignore! Well done! Goodbye! |
| 16:13 |
KikaRz1 |
Thank you marktraceur. but i don't want ignore, im not doing nothing |
| 16:15 |
KikaRz1 |
I got some ideas to Frontal / Back view in Minetest. Like: A camera in back (nobody can see) and in front. |
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KikaRz1 |
Who likes that idea? |
| 16:17 |
NekoGloop |
noone. |
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thexyz |
marktraceur: =( |
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marktraceur |
KikaRz-AFK: We shall see. |
| 16:23 |
KikaRz-AFK |
Ok, i'll show you that i'm better today. |
| 16:25 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz-AFK: Yes, I did. Why the PM? |
| 16:25 |
KikaRz-AFK |
To don't spam the channel. |
| 16:25 |
KikaRz-AFK |
That's an unrelated theme. |
| 16:25 |
* marktraceur |
blocked KikaRz-AFK because she's annoying as all hell, that's on-topic |
| 16:25 |
Jordach |
:D |
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KikaRz-AFK |
Not going to answer that |
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OldCoder |
Zeg9, hi |
| 16:28 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, now i'll be better. No Spam, no unrelated things talking-about, no bot abuse. |
| 16:29 |
marktraceur |
Bound to be a quiet day |
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Jordach |
marktraceur - yeah |
| 16:29 |
marktraceur |
Not that I'm complaining. Big happenings down at the wiki mines today. |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, fin |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, fine * |
| 16:30 |
KikaRz |
Guys, can you send me good textures packs? I wanted to see my minetest diferent... (not that random ones of the forums) |
| 16:31 |
* OldCoder |
is resting again briefly |
| 16:31 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: The ones on the forums are the only texture packs that exist. So they aren't random, they're total. |
| 16:32 |
Morrolan |
KikaRz - You rang? |
| 16:33 |
KikaRz |
Not that i meant. i was trying to say: bad quality ones. |
| 16:33 |
KikaRz |
Morrolan, define rang. |
| 16:34 |
Morrolan |
Highlighted. |
| 16:35 |
Morrolan |
(Mentioned my nickname, if you're in need of a definition of 'highlight', too.) |
| 16:35 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: If you think the ones on the forum are bad, then that sucks, because there aren't any other ones. |
| 16:36 |
KikaRz |
not that i said |
| 16:36 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4035 |
| 16:36 |
Morrolan |
KikaRz - Seems that 'hi' was right after my bouncer joined, though, so nevermind. :) |
| 16:36 |
KikaRz |
Morrolan, stop being random. |
| 16:36 |
Morrolan |
There's nothing random about this. |
| 16:37 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: My point is, if you want texture packs, the forum has all of them. Just look through until you find one you like. |
| 16:38 |
KikaRz |
Ok. Going to find. I was just trying to know your opinion about that ones you like. |
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NekoGloop |
there used to be this really shitty one there |
| 16:38 |
NekoGloop |
til i removed it |
| 16:39 |
* marktraceur |
uses default texture, would use an ASCII one if it existed, doesn't care about the quality of a texture pack |
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KikaRz |
Ok marktraceur, thank you anyways. |
| 16:40 |
KikaRz |
Yea, it is :) |
| 16:41 |
Zeg9 |
...What about aa lib ? I don't think it will work with hardware acceleration, though |
| 16:45 |
celeron55 |
well, you could *make* it work, just render the scene to a texture and feed to aa |
| 16:45 |
celeron55 |
...8) |
| 16:45 |
celeron55 |
not really hard at all, but the usefulness of that is like -1 out of 100 |
| 16:46 |
KikaRz |
No it's not. it's 5/10. |
| 16:46 |
KikaRz |
not 100 :P |
| 16:47 |
Zeg9 |
This would be laggy, wouldn't it ? |
| 16:47 |
Zeg9 |
and quite useless |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
considering mt is already laggy |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
Yea. To process that blocks (breaking nodes and placing nodes) |
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KikaRz |
To render the map... |
| 16:48 |
Zeg9 |
By laggy, here I ment rendering lag |
| 16:48 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, gotta talk with you. |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 16:49 |
KikaRz |
hi. |
| 16:49 |
KikaRz |
is your texture pack (faithful converted) updated? |
| 16:49 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
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KikaRz |
Hello Zeg9 |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: updated, as in? i'm not really maintaining it anymore but it should work fine with latest MT versions |
| 16:50 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, with the doors, ladders, chars... etc |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
ladders? |
| 16:51 |
KikaRz |
or the 3d doors update affects them? |
| 16:51 |
KikaRz |
not ladders... |
| 16:51 |
Calinou |
I need to update doors mod support though :P |
| 16:51 |
KikaRz |
not doors mod... its the new update (doors look more 3d) |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 16:52 |
KikaRz |
ok. |
| 16:53 |
KikaRz |
first going to try RealBadAngel's texture pack (his one) |
| 16:56 |
* Calinou |
redownloads the minecraft pack first |
| 16:56 |
Calinou |
yay, adfly! |
| 16:56 |
Zeg9 |
This is great. |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, adblock plus? |
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KikaRz |
Going to Dinner... Kisses *--* |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
| 17:15 |
KikaRz |
hi markveidemanis |
| 17:15 |
KikaRz |
Can i play in your server? |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
sure, hust a sec, testing the npc mod |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
#just |
| 17:15 |
markveidemanis |
i built a mansion:) |
| 17:16 |
KikaRz |
i can build a ship (space ship) |
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markveidemanis |
i can screw up the npc mod...:D |
| 17:17 |
KikaRz |
i can delete minetest worlds. |
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markveidemanis |
done |
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Calinou |
PilzAdam: of course, but adfly make everyone waste 5 seconds |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
makes* |
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* Calinou |
managed to make blender crash, yey |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
set material type to volume > render > crash |
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Penguin |
hi |
| 17:29 |
Zeg9 |
Hello. |
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KikaRz |
Meh, crashed. |
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| 17:32 |
Penguin |
What servers yous on |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdam |
youtube.com:80 |
| 17:32 |
Penguin |
? |
| 17:33 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 17:33 |
thexyz |
Taoki: can this be caused by your attachment system? http://i.imgur.com/dH0lM.png |
| 17:33 |
KikaRz |
Yea, we can be at youtube.com:80. |
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KikaRz |
Penguin, be more specific. (Minetest Server you at?) |
| 17:34 |
Penguin |
Please i'm bored What Minetest Servers Are You On |
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thexyz |
Penguin: 127.0.0.1:30000 |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
!up 127.0.0.1 30000 |
| 17:34 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
see? |
| 17:35 |
thexyz |
feel free to join |
| 17:35 |
Penguin |
is it any good |
| 17:35 |
thexyz |
for sure |
| 17:36 |
thexyz |
the most awesome and fast one |
| 17:36 |
Penguin |
what mods |
| 17:36 |
thexyz |
those you'll fall in love with |
| 17:36 |
Zeg9 |
"server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 11, client's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 13" |
| 17:36 |
Penguin |
will come on it now |
| 17:36 |
Penguin |
127.0.0.1? |
| 17:36 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 17:36 |
Zeg9 |
Yep |
| 17:37 |
Penguin |
what ver |
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frogcrush |
That's a Localhost IP |
| 17:37 |
Zeg9 |
I'm there too |
| 17:37 |
Zeg9 |
...frogcrush, you ruined all this. |
| 17:37 |
* thexyz |
flies away |
| 17:37 |
frogcrush |
Awwe, I sorry :( |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
frogcrush, you ruined the joke! |
| 17:37 |
* frogcrush |
is sad now |
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Penguin |
WOW |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
IRC, y u die? |
| 17:39 |
Penguin |
i mean it now what are the good servers of minetest |
| 17:39 |
frogcrush |
131.253.13.32 is a good server |
| 17:39 |
Penguin |
Port |
| 17:39 |
frogcrush |
The norm |
| 17:40 |
Penguin |
Wow Trlol Again ? |
| 17:41 |
frogcrush |
131.253.13.32 is also a handy website |
| 17:41 |
Penguin |
i carnt connect |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
I found a good website too |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
about minetest, and all sandbox games |
| 17:42 |
Zeg9 |
82.103.139.11 |
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| 17:44 |
Zeg9 |
Forget this. |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
Hi there... Again. |
| 17:44 |
Zeg9 |
67.205.24.236 |
| 17:44 |
Zeg9 |
Hello KikaRz |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
that ip is for? a server? i like building. |
| 17:45 |
Zeg9 |
...I'll check my links next time. |
| 17:45 |
frogcrush |
lol |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
try this 2001:0db8:85a3:0042:1000:8a2e:0370:7334 |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
That's ipv6. |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
or 8 xd |
| 17:45 |
frogcrush |
Nothing is wrong with ipv6 |
| 17:45 |
frogcrush |
:D |
| 17:45 |
Zeg9 |
Great. |
| 17:46 |
Zeg9 |
or... |
| 17:46 |
Penguin |
kikarz what server you on |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
minetest does not support ipv6, way to go |
| 17:46 |
frogcrush |
Isn't that IP from the Wikipedia post? |
| 17:46 |
Zeg9 |
Ok this one works: 5.9.130.165 |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
Penguin, no where. |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
yes, frogcrush - im just trollin |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
Penguin, i can try making a server |
| 17:47 |
KikaRz |
in my pc |
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| 17:50 |
KikaRz |
Guys, what feedback you give on that mod? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3647 |
| 17:50 |
Penguin |
lol the pickaxe |
| 17:50 |
KikaRz |
It's just good to remove water (and get water_source / Flowing) |
| 17:51 |
frogcrush |
Nice pickaxe :) |
| 17:51 |
KikaRz |
dislike a bit the texture |
| 17:51 |
frogcrush |
It looks like it could be handy tho |
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| 17:52 |
KikaRz |
it shall have sticks |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
does someone have vanessa's server ip? |
| 17:54 |
KikaRz |
It's offline. |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - do you ? |
| 17:54 |
KikaRz |
She's away for 2 days. (tomorrow she comes back) |
| 17:54 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, 24.181.193.82 |
| 17:54 |
Jordach |
cheers |
| 17:54 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, Jordach maybe ignored me. |
| 17:55 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, there may be other reasons to request the IP |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
last night i swapped out that ip to play with mito551 for a youtube lets play |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - seems dead |
| 17:56 |
KikaRz |
... I said. |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - have you heard what happened to 24.181.193.82? |
| 17:56 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
hm, it's dead atm |
| 17:57 |
KikaRZZ |
Her server is offline reason: she's away for 2 days |
| 17:57 |
KikaRZZ |
she comes back tomorrow. Thank you for your attention |
| 17:57 |
* Jordach |
wonders why she did not pass the admin stuff to PilzAdam, or jin_xi |
| 17:58 |
Penguin |
oldcoder have you updated |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, please |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
You asked about an hour ago |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
Patience is a virtue |
| 17:58 |
Penguin |
sorry |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
It's fine |
| 17:58 |
* frogcrush |
laughs at the young people |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
I will work on it right now |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel PM |
| 17:58 |
OldCoder |
But it may take a day or two to evaluate |
| 17:59 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, why European server got many (many many many) mods / downloads? |
| 17:59 |
KikaRz |
Afk. |
| 17:59 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, what? |
| 17:59 |
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| 18:00 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
OldCoder , i was trying to say: European Server got too much media to download. |
| 18:00 |
* Jordach |
is joining OldCoder Euro |
| 18:00 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
(so... my pc gets memory 100% full and goes down.) |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
KikaRzReadingNew, I don't understand |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
It has not changed |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
recently |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
ah yes |
| 18:01 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
I tried to enter (to play with RealBadAngel) in the European server... Media takes a lot to download. |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
But only once |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
Plus 0.4.4 may help |
| 18:01 |
* Jordach |
loves the global shortcuts i implemented in my custom media player |
| 18:01 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
I know... But i have a problem. |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
Let me focus |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
What problem? |
| 18:02 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
When takes a lot, (downloading), my computer gets laggy, 100% memory used... and goes down |
| 18:02 |
* frogcrush |
congratulates Jordach |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
KikaRzReadingNew, it is only once |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
KikaRzReadingNew, let me focus |
| 18:02 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
I know! But how i get the downloads? can you pass me the cache? |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
KikaRzReadingNew, It is in the Windows ZIP I made |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
Didn't I give you that already? |
| 18:03 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
Ah! I remember... can you pass me it again? |
| 18:03 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
I'm in Linux |
| 18:03 |
* OldCoder |
sighs! |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
KikaRzReadingNew, om |
| 18:03 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
121010? |
| 18:03 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
or 121012? |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-121020.zip |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
That one |
| 18:04 |
KikaRzReadingNew |
thank you. |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
yw |
| 18:05 |
frogcrush |
OldCoder, are you getting bugged a lot? |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, explain |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
like constant highlights |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Sort of |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Like right now |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 18:06 |
KikaRz |
poor nurse.... |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
wow this rooms cold again |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
what? |
| 18:19 |
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| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, the cache didnt result in nothing |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
my computer crashed again |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
Crashed? |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
:( |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
pc froze then reboot |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
That is odd |
| 18:34 |
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| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
(without blue screen like windows xd |
| 18:34 |
OldCoder |
Jeija, hi |
| 18:34 |
Jeija |
Hi everyone, hi OldCoder |
| 18:35 |
Jeija |
Anyone found anymore bugs in the new mesecons branch? If not, I'd like to merge it now. |
| 18:36 |
KikaRz |
IDK. wait |
| 18:36 |
KikaRz |
your topic got the download to the master? if yes, im going to test now |
| 18:37 |
Jeija |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/mesecons_in_nodedef.zip |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
jeija, at some point could it be possible to fix the wireless mesecons? |
| 18:39 |
Jeija |
Jordach, I actually thought about that this morning. Yes, it may be possible, maybe also as an extension. But I will create a new code for them, not use that old rubbish. |
| 18:39 |
Jeija |
Next thing is vertical mesecons (finally) |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
since we now has formspec and such |
| 18:40 |
KikaRz |
going to install more ores + more blocks...* |
| 18:40 |
KikaRz |
who got more ideas to install mods? |
| 18:41 |
Jeija |
the problem is that all receivers need to be registered in a public variable that has to be saved and loaded each time you open the game |
| 18:41 |
Jeija |
maybe I can make it so that the coords of the receiver can be saved in the sender's meta, but I'm not sure how to do that |
| 18:43 |
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| 18:43 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, got a idea for your More Blocks mod. |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: an idea, dear. |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
a dear idea! |
| 18:44 |
KikaRz |
You know Sweeper? its used to clean glass by crafting... you could make when sweeper punches glass, it cleans the glass and your sweeper is gone because was use |
| 18:44 |
KikaRz |
*used |
| 18:44 |
KikaRz |
that was more realist |
| 18:44 |
KikaRz |
*realistic |
| 18:44 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: If it were a deer idea, it would need to go in the animals mod.... |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
and to bookshelves too |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
You like the idea Calinou? |
| 18:45 |
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| 18:47 |
Jordach |
not really |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
wireless transmitter = on, channel, wireless reciever = on, that channel |
| 18:49 |
KikaRz |
Calinou , did you listen my idea? |
| 18:50 |
KikaRz |
and the Doors+ link is disabled. |
| 18:50 |
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| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
not that im saying. TO clean glass we need to use it in crafting. |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
not punching glass |
| 18:52 |
KikaRz |
punching glass were more realistic |
| 18:53 |
KikaRz |
maybe. |
| 18:53 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 18:53 |
KikaRz |
and bookshelves too |
| 18:53 |
KikaRz |
(with books XD) |
| 18:53 |
KikaRz |
thats a bit funny |
| 18:55 |
MiJyn |
finally! peace in the MT channel! |
| 18:56 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: Muted someone? :) |
| 18:56 |
KikaRz |
MiJyn, my behaviour has been improved. Now i'll don't spam, write things in different lines, talk about unrelated subjects and just talk when i have questions (or it's a MT party) |
| 18:56 |
KikaRz |
when i have questions, talk about mods, tp(texture packs) and +++ |
| 18:56 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, guess who lol |
| 18:57 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: Could it be.... KikaRz ? |
| 18:57 |
KikaRz |
no i'm not muted |
| 18:57 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, wow, you are good lol |
| 18:57 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I think to MiJyn, you are :) |
| 18:57 |
KikaRz |
COntinuing to install mods |
| 18:57 |
KikaRz |
Bye Zeg9 |
| 18:57 |
Jeija |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/master.zip << I merged the mesecons branch. I hope you enjoy the new version (Even though the user can hardly discover any changes). The developer resources will be updated in the nest few days as soon as this branch is proven to be stable. |
| 18:58 |
MiJyn |
I wonder what she would have said... at the same time, I'm not really interested lol |
| 18:58 |
KikaRz |
downloading new branch. |
| 18:59 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: She claims she's being better today, I've seen only some evidence thereof |
| 18:59 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, not only today. Every next days. |
| 19:00 |
marktraceur |
Right, *starting* today. |
| 19:00 |
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| 19:00 |
Penguin |
Hey |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Back! :) |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, make a film: A day without Kika: The parrot. |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 19:01 |
Penguin |
oldcoder i carnt connect to 30009 |
| 19:01 |
MiJyn |
@marktraceur, interesting how LandMine is banned for just appearing on the channel and saying a little comment and SOME others (who I'm not going to mention the name) are not banned at all for doing worse lol |
| 19:01 |
MiJyn |
don't want to be mean, but seriously |
| 19:01 |
KikaRz |
LandMine is banned? |
| 19:02 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: Because ultimately, this community doesn't really want to eliminate problems. They just want to ignore them and hope they go away on their own. |
| 19:02 |
frogcrush |
So THATS why I'm allowed on... |
| 19:02 |
marktraceur |
Which is great, for a democracy. But that's not what IRC is. |
| 19:03 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, yep. I wonder what would have happened if LM was a woman... I don't think she would have been banned so easily |
| 19:03 |
marktraceur |
Hm, that's interesting |
| 19:03 |
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| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
MiJyn, so... if the channel was filled up of homossexuals... |
| 19:04 |
Penguin |
Anyone On A Good Server |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
nobody was ebing banned |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back Jordan4ibanez |
| 19:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
thank you |
| 19:04 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, what do you think? |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
what? should we mute somebody? |
| 19:05 |
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| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I think MiJyn's point is that we make an effort to keep female community members, more than male ones |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
Hi iqualfragile. |
| 19:05 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Several people come to mind, but you won't be interested |
| 19:05 |
MiJyn |
yeah, that's it |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
i think pissing off cornernote was the worst thing ever. |
| 19:05 |
iqualfragile |
hi KikaRz |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
i'm good at this things, you know |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
s/this/these |
| 19:05 |
iqualfragile |
ah, right: what happened to cornernote? why was he banned? |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
he requested to |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
Guys, whats that mod like Stairs+ and Doors+ ? Xdoors or XStairs... or something? |
| 19:06 |
iqualfragile |
xdoors2 |
| 19:06 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Well, the first is RealBadAngel, who several days ago insulted me based solely on age. I'd suggest a few days of mute with a good statement of reason. OldCoder refused the suggestion and told me to /ignore, which I did. |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
thxs, there is more one mod? |
| 19:07 |
Penguin |
kikarz what you do ing |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
installing mods. |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
Selecting first... |
| 19:07 |
frogcrush |
Doing is one word |
| 19:07 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, cornernote was banned? |
| 19:07 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, there was an issue related to the consumption of meat |
| 19:07 |
KikaRz |
Yea MiJyn |
| 19:07 |
iqualfragile |
consumption of meat? |
| 19:08 |
thexyz |
he was posting animal gore |
| 19:08 |
MiJyn |
I thought he was the only really mature person on this channel (apart from OldCoder and a few others) |
| 19:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
cornernote was banned because he opressed his opinion like an extremest |
| 19:08 |
thexyz |
then i kicked him |
| 19:08 |
Jordach |
iqualfragile - i should of /give Cornernote default:apple -1 |
| 19:08 |
Penguin |
lolk |
| 19:08 |
thexyz |
then he burned out |
| 19:08 |
Penguin |
lol |
| 19:08 |
thexyz |
sad story |
| 19:08 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: The second is cy1, who yesterday used the term "retarded" in a derogatory sense. I asked him to stop, but he refused to apologize and continued using the word. Because I'd learned that the ops don't care about offensive language, I didn't even ask, /ignored him, and banned him from another channel. |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
Omg, marktraceur, i'm not in that unrelated things chat. |
| 19:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
I fucking hate the 310 nvidia driver |
| 19:09 |
iqualfragile |
i fucking hate the nvidia driver |
| 19:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
apparently my gtx650 is too new to use classic nvidia drivers, so i have to use the beta |
| 19:09 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, well, I sort of like extremists... |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
Jordach: "Hey all; I forked thexyz's xDoor2, and made it so you can have any shaped texture with an alpha channel." |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
The real mod is made by you or him? |
| 19:10 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez - haha! |
| 19:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
mijyn: you like seeing slaughtered animals? |
| 19:10 |
Jordach |
mines GeForce 6200 |
| 19:10 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, idk, if he has a point, it may be worth it |
| 19:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Then go to cornernotes website! You'll love it there :D |
| 19:10 |
frogcrush |
Anyone report cornernotes website? |
| 19:10 |
KikaRz |
Site? |
| 19:10 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: that's strange |
| 19:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
Don't go, i was kidding. |
| 19:11 |
frogcrush |
That is freaking disgusting |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
I didnt requested the site |
| 19:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
time to boot with 304 beta driver |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
jordan4ibanez, cornernote insisted on the ban |
| 19:11 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, hmm, that's his website, he gets to do what he wants |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
just telling site? because i didnt knew that he were with a site. |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
But you are gone |
| 19:11 |
Penguin |
oldcoder i carnt connect to 30009 |
| 19:11 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: What's strange, exactly? |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, thank you. I am checking now. |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
Jordach, that xdoors2 it's your mod or from thexyz? |
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| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
( i guess Jordach still got me ignored |
| 19:12 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, you timed out |
| 19:12 |
KikaRz |
Hi Penguin_ |
| 19:12 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: can you provide links to logged messages? |
| 19:12 |
iqualfragile |
!up minetest.org 30009 |
| 19:12 |
Penguin_ |
oh and why carnt i connect to 30009 coder |
| 19:12 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.org:30009 UP |
| 19:12 |
Penguin_ |
oh |
| 19:13 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Where are the logs, again? |
| 19:13 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, it was just a timeout |
| 19:13 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: http://irc.minetest.ru |
| 19:13 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: IRC logs - Index |
| 19:13 |
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| 19:13 |
frogcrush |
OMFG thats creepy how up-to-date those are... |
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| 19:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
BOLD |
| 19:15 |
iqualfragile |
frogcrush: they are uptodate to the sec, written by loggingbot i guess |
| 19:15 |
MiJyn |
frogcrush, you realize that the bot automatically updates the website as logs are added? |
| 19:15 |
frogcrush |
Yeah, just saying its creepy |
| 19:15 |
Penguin_ |
it wont connect to 30009 |
| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
frogcrush, it's not... It's EPIC |
| 19:15 |
iqualfragile |
one feels watched |
| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
Moom! I'm on #minetest 's log! :) |
| 19:15 |
frogcrush |
KikaRz lol |
| 19:16 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 19:17 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: The RealBadAngel stuff starts around http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-09#i_2702424 but it's not as clear-cut as I remembered. He has generally disrespected me and several times told me that I don't understand something because I'm young. |
| 19:17 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-09 |
| 19:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
I didn't think everyone would be so suped for my mobs lol |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
Who can give me the WorldEdit link? I can't find it in Forums |
| 19:19 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-10#i_2705727 is cy1's discussion |
| 19:19 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-10 |
| 19:20 |
iqualfragile |
jordan4ibanez: your mobs? |
| 19:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
yea |
| 19:21 |
iqualfragile |
link? |
| 19:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4023 |
| 19:21 |
moltenbot |
jordan4ibanez's link: [1.0] 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 19:22 |
MiJyn |
why doesn't /ignore -r work? |
| 19:23 |
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| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
Who can send me WorldEdit's link? I need it please. |
| 19:23 |
thexyz |
i don't think it deserved kick/ban/mute |
| 19:23 |
MiJyn |
KikaRz, which WE link? |
| 19:23 |
Penguin |
stupid time out |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
WorldEdit please. |
| 19:23 |
KikaRz |
Hi sfan5. |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 19:24 |
jin_xi |
KikaRz: you know google? its good at finding minetest mods |
| 19:24 |
MiJyn |
KikaRz, I mean, _which_ WorldEdit mod? |
| 19:24 |
MiJyn |
Sfan5's, Uberi's |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
forget Mijyn. |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
jin_xi, my computer is too lazy |
| 19:24 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 19:24 |
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| 19:24 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
| 19:24 |
MiJyn |
hi bulletrulz |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
hi bulletrulz |
| 19:24 |
bulletrulz |
sup guys |
| 19:24 |
MiJyn |
good, you? |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: Uberi's WorldEdit == my WorldEdit |
| 19:25 |
Penguin |
how |
| 19:25 |
Penguin |
minetest forum is better |
| 19:25 |
bulletrulz |
pretty goood |
| 19:25 |
MiJyn |
sfan5, really? Didn't know |
| 19:25 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, what's the diference? |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: there if no difference |
| 19:25 |
KikaRz |
ok. |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
MiJyn: uberi just created the github repo |
| 19:25 |
bulletrulz |
Penguin, what do u mean? |
| 19:26 |
Penguin |
dont matter |
| 19:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
sfan5 can you use a for statement in your worldedit? not while |
| 19:26 |
bulletrulz |
fuck windows ill use dockbarx |
| 19:26 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
| 19:26 |
MiJyn |
<offtopic>I realized something... it seemsl ike as if PilzAdam is really copying mods and saying that they are his... he copied XYZ's cart mod, he copied my MC-like drop item inventory thingy, he copied sapier's mobs mod, and he copied many others...</offtopic> |
| 19:26 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: why? |
| 19:26 |
KikaRz |
MiJyn, wrong. |
| 19:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
mijyn stop starting trouble lol |
| 19:26 |
iqualfragile |
MiJyn: nope |
| 19:27 |
sfan5 |
MiJyn: no |
| 19:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
sfan5: performance! so you can do things while it edits |
| 19:27 |
MiJyn |
Myself: Nope :P |
| 19:27 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, somehow you are right |
| 19:27 |
MiJyn |
seriously, just look at the codebase |
| 19:27 |
bulletrulz |
MiJyn, well idk |
| 19:27 |
iqualfragile |
he was inspired by thexyz cart mod |
| 19:27 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 19:27 |
MiJyn |
look at how it's made |
| 19:27 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, carts, mobs, MC item drop are completly written by me |
| 19:28 |
MiJyn |
seriously, I looked, and they are too similar... @PilzAdam, why don't you just help the mod instead of copying it? |
| 19:28 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: you can't do anything while a mod callback is running, doesn't matter if it uses for or while loops |
| 19:28 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, right, but they work pretty much exacly the same |
| 19:28 |
MiJyn |
*exactly |
| 19:28 |
PilzAdam |
if you think so |
| 19:29 |
MiJyn |
whatever |
| 19:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
So by that statement, linux devs should just help windows lol |
| 19:29 |
NakedFury |
they should |
| 19:29 |
PilzAdam |
If you take Simple mobs as and example: if you look at sapiers huge code, and then look at the few lines I have done, you will realise that there may be an difference |
| 19:29 |
thexyz |
MiJyn: most of my mods are under WTFPL, feel free to steal them and claim you wrote them |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
sfan5, going to use your nuke mod :) |
| 19:29 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, I know, but it's still rather unethical |
| 19:29 |
KikaRz |
it lags our pcs? |
| 19:30 |
bulletrulz |
you know what i noticed Mac Sucks |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
Carts mod: thexyz's carts mod uses setpos() to move the cart; I use setvelocity() wich is a completly different system |
| 19:30 |
bulletrulz |
wait i aready knew that XD |
| 19:30 |
sfan5 |
bulletrulz: oh really? |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
Item drop: my Item drop mod is a standalone mod while the other mods are all patches to the engine |
| 19:30 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, mine too, and it was written way before yours |
| 19:30 |
bulletrulz |
i also noticed windows is a pile of shit! |
| 19:31 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, link? |
| 19:31 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, sure |
| 19:31 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, i can agrre with mijyn here |
| 19:31 |
bulletrulz |
he did make the mod before u |
| 19:31 |
PilzAdam |
but we need to check if its simmiliar code |
| 19:31 |
thexyz |
that reminds me of some guy claiming that i stole his mod and made xdoors2 based on his code |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
guys, because i dislike wars, im going to test my mods. |
| 19:32 |
KikaRz |
not my mods only, the people mods |
| 19:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mijyn, your mod made the actual drops go to the player, which didn't work, his mod makes the player suck up the drops |
| 19:32 |
bulletrulz |
and im pretty sure jordan4ibanez was also working on it |
| 19:32 |
bulletrulz |
before u PilzAdam |
| 19:32 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1597 |
| 19:32 |
moltenbot |
MiJyn's link: Get dropped items on step over (like minecraft) (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 19:32 |
thexyz |
oh, that probably was mauvebic |
| 19:32 |
bulletrulz |
but PilzAdam most likely took the code from MiJyn |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, thats not a standalone mod |
| 19:32 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, that's worse |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
its a patch to the engine |
| 19:33 |
KikaRz |
(offtopic) jordan4ibanez, if a drop was like a p*nis... if the Mijyn mod sucks up the drops... |
| 19:33 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, so you are wrong at this point |
| 19:33 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, no its a stand alone mod |
| 19:33 |
MiJyn |
pilzadam, engine = C++ code |
| 19:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
mijyn and pilzadam's mods are completely different |
| 19:34 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, builtin is part of the engine |
| 19:34 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, nope, it's part of the script |
| 19:34 |
KikaRz |
... engine. |
| 19:34 |
PilzAdam |
define "script" |
| 19:34 |
MiJyn |
so yes, it's a standalone mod, since it doesn't patch the engine |
| 19:34 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, you know what I mean |
| 19:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, this conversation is stupid |
| 19:34 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, a standalone *mod* is something i put into the mod directory |
| 19:35 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, I was thinking the same... actually, what PilzAdam does is stupid, and him trying to cover it up... wow |
| 19:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Mijyn, why are you trying to start trouble? |
| 19:35 |
MiJyn |
PilzAdam, I call a standalone *mod* something that's written in lua |
| 19:35 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, I was simply pointing it out |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
I just want to make clear that it is completly wrong when you say I have stolen code |
| 19:35 |
Jeija |
Indeed... Everyone agrees that PilzAdam doesn't steal mods. He just improves some; So why is it important if builtin is a mod or the engine??? |
| 19:35 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, is compleatly wrong! |
| 19:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Pilzadam is very good at coding, or putting together things from different codes, you do the same thing, so why are you getting so flustered? |
| 19:36 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, a mod is a engine modifaction mijyn just didnt put it in a folder and give it to u! |
| 19:36 |
PilzAdam |
I tried to make mods better |
| 19:36 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, I rarely ever do the same, and when I do, I give credit |
| 19:36 |
MiJyn |
even when it's not due |
| 19:36 |
PilzAdam |
bulletrulz, no, a mod is an extention of the game content |
| 19:36 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea, but since he codes his own mods, he doesn't need to give credit |
| 19:36 |
KikaRz |
RealBadAngel, problem with your mod |
| 19:36 |
bulletrulz |
PilzAdam, maybe but u could put all the code MiJyn put it in a folder and it would WORK! |
| 19:37 |
bulletrulz |
it could be a standalone |
| 19:37 |
MiJyn |
yeah, my goodbye statement didn't seem to be a goodbye statement... anyways, goodbye |
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| 19:37 |
thexyz |
MiJn: if you want to be credited, release the mod under appropriate license |
| 19:37 |
thexyz |
oh, fail |
| 19:37 |
PilzAdam |
MiJyn, the carts mod gives credit to thexyz and simple mobs and item_drop are completly written from scratch by me |
| 19:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
That guy is turning into a fucking idiot |
| 19:37 |
Jeija |
lool he propably had a bad day |
| 19:37 |
PilzAdam |
So, i guess its clear now that i dont steal code |
| 19:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
Probably, but when you come in here spouting at a modder over opensource intelectual property, that's a little too stupid |
| 19:38 |
PilzAdam |
I havent said anything about opensource |
| 19:38 |
bulletrulz |
well im guessing minetest is this bad that mijyn is leaving are u serous |
| 19:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
löl? |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
lâül? |
| 19:40 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 19:40 |
PilzAdam |
he just blames me that I have stolen code and just tried to proof that my code is written by me and noone else |
| 19:40 |
Jeija |
But I guess there is a tiny piece of truth in what he said: Maybe, PilzAdam, you could try harder to get your code merged into the original code instead of starting a new topic. |
| 19:40 |
Jeija |
No!! I don't want to cause another argument! |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
this only applies to item_drop |
| 19:41 |
KikaRz |
I guess thexyz will kick/mute/ban someone. |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
but we need to talk about such things |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
I have learned something today |
| 19:42 |
frogcrush |
Whats with all teh fighting in here today? |
| 19:42 |
thexyz |
KikaRz: sure |
| 19:42 |
Jeija |
oh nooo, not the we-have-all-learned-something-today... ^^ |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
no, just me |
| 19:42 |
KikaRz |
what? |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
?? |
| 19:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have a suprise |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
what jordan4ibanez? |
| 19:43 |
PilzAdam |
how to calculate the energie of alpha radiation in an magnetical field |
| 19:43 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 19:43 |
jin_xi |
magnets, how do they work |
| 19:43 |
frogcrush |
magnetical? |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
s/magnetical/magnetic |
| 19:44 |
KikaRz |
i learned that: Nobody wants me if i am evil / stupid to everyone. |
| 19:44 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 19:44 |
jin_xi |
hey lets make a magnets mod |
| 19:44 |
KikaRz |
Yea! |
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| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
jin_xi, no chance until you can set velocity/acceleration of players |
| 19:44 |
bulletrulz |
back to what i was sating |
| 19:44 |
jin_xi |
hmm, like electro magnetic pistons or something |
| 19:45 |
Jeija |
Link a magneticfield entity to the player I guess? |
| 19:45 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, u turned into a idoit when u switched to windows |
| 19:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm on linux now you little buttcheek, that deserves an ignore |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
todays topic: blame your favourite modder |
| 19:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/WuPZV.png |
| 19:45 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 19:46 |
bulletrulz |
but u were on windows for a while so it made u a idoit |
| 19:46 |
KikaRz |
who knows fixing this bug of unified inventory? |
| 19:46 |
KikaRz |
19:45:36: ERROR[main]: cannot open /home/joao/minetest/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/unified_inventory/textures/init.lua: No such file or directory |
| 19:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, i'm going to create a skin for celeron55 :P |
| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, you can "steal" the code from simple_mobs to make them move better |
| 19:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yay! |
| 19:46 |
Jeija |
I'm curious, jordan4ibanez: http://wiki.minetest.com/images/d/d5/C55.jpg |
| 19:47 |
PilzAdam |
!wik celeron55 |
| 19:47 |
Minetest-tan |
"celeron55 leads quite a private life and so not much is known about his early life." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Celeron55 |
| 19:47 |
KikaRz |
Jordan4Ibanez: Where is steve and herobrine? |
| 19:48 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez should have never switched to windows |
| 19:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have to make a violent npc first |
| 19:48 |
KikaRz |
yea... |
| 19:48 |
KikaRz |
you traitor :'( |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
can they spawn one new npc once a day? |
| 19:49 |
PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, part 2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07vlgded6Oo |
| 19:49 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: Minetest Let's Play - Part 1 - YouTube |
| 19:49 |
KikaRz |
sry, cant watch |
| 19:49 |
KikaRz |
no speakers. |
| 19:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh, since tomorrow is wednesday i can do that |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: can't you just make invisible entity and attach player to it? |
| 19:50 |
PilzAdam |
for what? |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
(23:43:57) PilzAdam: jin_xi, no chance until you can set velocity/acceleration of players |
| 19:50 |
PilzAdam |
this would cause strange lags in moving |
| 19:50 |
PilzAdam |
like the boats mod |
| 19:51 |
KikaRz |
love boats mod. |
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| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
singleplayer would work somehow, but servers.... |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
btw: boats mod; something I have stolen from jordan4ibanez :-p |
| 19:51 |
KikaRz |
thexyz, why did you +q yourself? |
| 19:52 |
thexyz |
KikaRz: just to show how wrong this channel is |
| 19:52 |
PilzAdam |
to rage? |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
gtg in 8 mins. |
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| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
bye :) |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
"Its the final countdown dadadada dadadada..." |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
ok, I guess I just stop this |
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| 19:54 |
Penguin |
Hey |
| 19:55 |
Penguin |
hi moltonbot |
| 19:55 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 19:56 |
* Penguin |
[5adf93f6 gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.223.147.246] has quit #minetest |
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| 19:56 |
MiJyn |
just one quick thing |
| 19:56 |
MiJyn |
before I completely leave the MT community I want to do one thing |
| 19:56 |
MiJyn |
finish what I was working on lol |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
... |
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| 19:57 |
NakedFury |
why would you leave? |
| 19:57 |
Penguin |
Lol |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
NakedFury, discussion with PilzAdam |
| 19:57 |
KikaRz |
and wars. |
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| 19:57 |
Penguin |
any 0.4.4 servers |
| 19:57 |
MiJyn |
dang, I hate this IRC client :( |
| 19:57 |
thexyz |
Penguin: minetest.ru:12345 |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
!up minetest.ru 12345 |
| 19:58 |
Penguin |
is it good |
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| 19:58 |
KikaRz |
thexyz, the same as we playedi n? |
| 19:58 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.ru:12345 UP |
| 19:58 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Any thoughts on the two situations I brought forward? |
| 19:58 |
MiJyn |
I've already tol myself I would leave a rather long time ago (back in august or september, not sure) |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
(23:22:42) thexyz: i don't think it deserved kick/ban/mute |
| 19:58 |
KikaRz |
tnt mod is too laggy |
| 19:59 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Noted, thanks. |
| 19:59 |
MiJyn |
Will update my nether mod, completely copyright it, and then leave :) |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
the nether mod is shit |
| 20:00 |
Penguin |
ikr |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
lol it is |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
and that's why I'll update it |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
well, I'm already in progress |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
it uses it's own C library |
| 20:00 |
Penguin |
it bugs like F**k |
| 20:00 |
MiJyn |
so it will generate super fast |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
BULLSHIT ALERT |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
and so that it will stop minetest from bugging it lol |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
LUA CANT CALL C |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, yes it can |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
look at the IRC mod |
| 20:01 |
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| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
it's a C library |
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| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
I mean, it's using a c library |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
oh yes, a FORK OF MINETEST FOR SUPORT |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
+P |
| 20:01 |
Penguin |
lol |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, no, it uses it's own C library |
| 20:02 |
MiJyn |
okay, whatever, you obviously can't understand. You will once I release it |
| 20:02 |
MiJyn |
it uses Solaris 11's API |
| 20:02 |
MiJyn |
*System API |
| 20:02 |
MiJyn |
it's seriously awesome |
| 20:02 |
Muadtralk |
the words solaris just kinda threw me off how can you use solaris and awesome in the same context? |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
stop flamming |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
hi Muadtralk |
| 20:03 |
Muadtralk |
ello |
| 20:03 |
MiJyn |
Muadtralk, you never used it did you? |
| 20:03 |
MiJyn |
you never used it's APIs, right? |
| 20:03 |
Muadtralk |
i just came in |
| 20:03 |
MiJyn |
if you did, you would know that I'm talking about |
| 20:03 |
Muadtralk |
i have no idea whats going on |
| 20:04 |
Muadtralk |
i just decided making a comment like that may reveal some answers to the topic of discussion today |
| 20:04 |
MiJyn |
it's alright, most people can't accept the fact that I'm leaving minetest for good :) |
| 20:04 |
Muadtralk |
i have nothing against solaris |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, your server still on? |
| 20:04 |
Muadtralk |
should be |
| 20:04 |
KikaRz |
version=? |
| 20:04 |
Muadtralk |
whats this about you leaving lkjoel? |
| 20:05 |
Muadtralk |
latest dev |
| 20:05 |
Muadtralk |
unless ive forgotten to update |
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MiJyn |
Muadtralk, I decided to do that a few months ago, but I delayed it because I needed to finish my mod first (never like to leave things unfinished) |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
0.4.4 its already there. |
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| 20:05 |
MiJyn |
hi bulletrulz |
| 20:05 |
bulletrulz |
hi MiJyn |
| 20:06 |
NakedFury |
you should never leave |
| 20:06 |
bulletrulz |
MiJyn, has discussed with me |
| 20:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://i.imgur.com/WecUx.png |
| 20:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
c55 kik |
| 20:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol* |
| 20:06 |
Muadtralk |
tis true lkjoel please dont leave |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 20:07 |
bulletrulz |
Ikjoel will leave |
| 20:07 |
MiJyn |
NakedFury, I've had enough of this whole community, and this whole game |
| 20:07 |
bulletrulz |
mijyn was a good member |
| 20:07 |
bulletrulz |
and i am leaving too |
| 20:07 |
NakedFury |
take a break but dont permanently leave |
| 20:07 |
* Muadtralk |
dies a little inside |
| 20:07 |
Muadtralk |
why is everyone leaving! |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
Many reasons. |
| 20:07 |
NakedFury |
I die a little inside too |
| 20:07 |
MiJyn |
Idk, I just know that I don't care about this game anymore neither do I care about this community. It's a dying game, and I don't want to be part of it's death |
| 20:07 |
bulletrulz |
because minetest IS SHIT |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
bulletrulz, this is in dev. |
| 20:08 |
NakedFury |
its not dying, its more alive than ever |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
if you like minecraft so much, just Alt + F4 and go! be free! |
| 20:08 |
MiJyn |
seriously, it's a dying game, and everyone knows that |
| 20:08 |
bulletrulz |
minetest is dying i might make a fork of it sometime |
| 20:08 |
bulletrulz |
but im leaving it |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
for me, minetest will never die. |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
bulletrulz, no its not. |
| 20:08 |
bulletrulz |
so is MiJyn |
| 20:08 |
bulletrulz |
and so was jordan4ibanez |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
its alive than ever |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
now, going to dinner (2) |
| 20:09 |
Muadtralk |
so what if its dying? |
| 20:09 |
Muadtralk |
I play most games to death |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
in 10 days, the world finishes. |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
so, we all die |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
:D |
| 20:09 |
Muadtralk |
no.... |
| 20:09 |
MiJyn |
<MiJyn> minetest has been a part of me doing bad actions |
| 20:09 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
| 20:09 |
MiJyn |
[13:09] <MiJyn> being frustrated with people |
| 20:09 |
MiJyn |
[13:09] <MiJyn> I don't want to be like that anymore |
| 20:09 |
MiJyn |
It's for me and for the others |
| 20:09 |
bulletrulz |
that is mijyn talking to me |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
well, brb |
| 20:09 |
Muadtralk |
ahh.... |
| 20:10 |
MiJyn |
I guess mientest will be better off without me :) |
| 20:10 |
MiJyn |
*minetest |
| 20:10 |
NakedFury |
it wont' |
| 20:10 |
MiJyn |
but I want to first finish my mod :D |
| 20:10 |
NakedFury |
every member that leaves is always missed |
| 20:10 |
MiJyn |
random dungeon generator for the nether (it's awesome :D) |
| 20:10 |
Muadtralk |
well lkjoel if you could please contact.... I belive it was your brother? he hasnt emailed me back in some time |
| 20:10 |
MiJyn |
NakedFury, but it's ok, people will forget afterwards :) |
| 20:11 |
NakedFury |
I wont |
| 20:11 |
MiJyn |
Muadtralk, oh right, yeah, I thought he was waiting for you |
| 20:11 |
NakedFury |
cornernote and now you? |
| 20:11 |
thexyz |
MiJyn: k, bye |
| 20:11 |
Muadtralk |
let me review the last email i sent him |
| 20:11 |
MiJyn |
NakedFury, yep. Once I saw all of these great members of MT leave, my decision was only confirmed |
| 20:11 |
bulletrulz |
Minetest Rest In Peace D: |
| 20:12 |
MiJyn |
Muadtralk, ok, it might be his fault, no idea. WIll talk to him ASAP :) |
| 20:12 |
MiJyn |
*will |
| 20:12 |
Muadtralk |
erf i deleted it |
| 20:12 |
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| 20:13 |
bulletrulz |
minetest 2010-2012 one of the best and worst games |
| 20:13 |
MiJyn |
yes |
| 20:13 |
MiJyn |
it is |
| 20:14 |
thexyz |
i believe that only weak people leave |
| 20:14 |
bulletrulz |
0.2.0 was good |
| 20:14 |
bulletrulz |
0.3.1 awesome |
| 20:14 |
NakedFury |
MiJyn just take an extended vacation |
| 20:14 |
thexyz |
though it's only my personal mind |
| 20:14 |
bulletrulz |
0.4 laggy and horrible |
| 20:14 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, I thought so too, until I realized the horrible community, and how fast people leave it |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
MiJyn - i had to take a damn break |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
try it for a few days. see how you feel afterwards |
| 20:15 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, yeah, and you returned |
| 20:15 |
thexyz |
MiJyn: why is it horrible? |
| 20:16 |
thexyz |
it can only be called horrible because of those leaving attention whores... right? |
| 20:17 |
Muadtralk |
could you list those persons in the community you feel heavily contributed to your decision? |
| 20:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
This game is better than minecraft, everyone shut the flasdjsakdw0999 up and play it |
| 20:17 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, nope, it's because of the leaders... such as celeron55, vanessae, even you |
| 20:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
I peed myself when i realised that the game had support for hats |
| 20:18 |
MiJyn |
Muadtralk, it's not individual people, I was already determined to leave it, and then when other people left it (people who I respected), it just strengthened my decision |
| 20:18 |
bulletrulz |
minecraft is horrible too |
| 20:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
thexyz, is mijyn still talking? why don't you just mute him? |
| 20:19 |
Muadtralk |
anyone give a damn about mythruna? |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
jordan4ibanez: why should i? |
| 20:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
Because he is not worth your time |
| 20:19 |
MiJyn |
Muadtralk, hey, you should see my blog post |
| 20:19 |
KikaRz |
back |
| 20:20 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, you realize that I coded mientest++ and blockplanet neaerly all by myself, and you just sat back and did nothing? |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
jordan4ibanez: he didn't violated any rules, why should he be muted? |
| 20:20 |
MiJyn |
but yet you took the credit ofr it? |
| 20:20 |
MiJyn |
and I was ok with it? |
| 20:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh, i meant ignore not mute |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
fuck |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
my minetest cant be closed |
| 20:20 |
bulletrulz |
wow jordan4ibanez |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
jordan4ibanez: i can't miss any part of discussion |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
20:06:37: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down. |
| 20:21 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, you realize that the reason you are ignoring me is that you know I'm saying the truth |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
maybe i need to open another terminal to killall minetest |
| 20:21 |
MiJyn |
you know what you have done |
| 20:21 |
MiJyn |
heck, you know how old I am |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
you have 13 years old |
| 20:21 |
MiJyn |
14 |
| 20:21 |
KikaRz |
or that |
| 20:22 |
MiJyn |
he's 19 |
| 20:22 |
MiJyn |
he treated me horribly |
| 20:22 |
MiJyn |
and yet he recieved all the credit |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
MiJyn - name a commit that made it to master |
| 20:22 |
bulletrulz |
i gave mijyn the credit |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
thats yours. |
| 20:23 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, I'm talking about blockplanet and minetest++ |
| 20:24 |
thexyz |
14? |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
<MiJyn> Jordach, I'm talking about blockplanet and minetest++ - no one used them because they were incompatible with minetest master |
| 20:24 |
MiJyn |
c55 was too stubborn to let me commit to minetest |
| 20:24 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, yes |
| 20:24 |
MiJyn |
http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/im-not-22/ |
| 20:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
you people are still talking about minetest++? that was almost a year ago, it's dead, leave it |
| 20:25 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, that was about 6 mothes ago |
| 20:26 |
thexyz |
oh, well, i'll just shut up then |
| 20:26 |
MiJyn |
oh yeah, and this, if anyone cares |
| 20:26 |
MiJyn |
http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/howto-install-free-alternatives-to-minecraft/ |
| 20:26 |
MiJyn |
jordan4ibanez, you are just trying to hide waht you did |
| 20:27 |
MiJyn |
*what |
| 20:28 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez, brought me to linux but now now im just dont like him |
| 20:28 |
Muadtralk |
i was hoping minetest++ would live on |
| 20:28 |
MiJyn |
seriously, why doesn't anyone realize what this community has become? |
| 20:28 |
bulletrulz |
jordan4ibanez was cool when stormrider was here |
| 20:29 |
bulletrulz |
idk 200 people it was cool 3000 people its bull shit |
| 20:29 |
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| 20:29 |
MiJyn |
Even Jordach did horrible things to me... he was the one who wanted to start the "grief minetest" project, a project to stop minetest and put C55 down |
| 20:30 |
MiJyn |
I then agreed to help, but that was because we were friends at the time |
| 20:30 |
MiJyn |
do you remember when he blamed me for starting it? |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
<MiJyn> I then agreed to help, but that was because we were friends at the time - that was an art of the troll |
| 20:30 |
MiJyn |
seriously, you guys know what you did |
| 20:31 |
bulletrulz |
yep they do |
| 20:31 |
MiJyn |
Same for c55, he blamed me of doing things that I didn't do |
| 20:32 |
bulletrulz |
c55 Dont get me started on him |
| 20:32 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 20:33 |
bulletrulz |
c55 Is not the maker of minetest! |
| 20:33 |
bulletrulz |
c55 is a person who takes credit |
| 20:33 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm? |
| 20:33 |
bulletrulz |
c55 is a douchbag |
| 20:33 |
Muadtralk |
earliest commits date back to c55 bucko |
| 20:33 |
bulletrulz |
Muadtralk, yeah he did that but from then on HE DID NOTHING! |
| 20:33 |
MiJyn |
seriously, some of you were great, and that's awesome, I'm not blaming you, but really, think of what the rest have done. They don't want to admit it |
| 20:34 |
MiJyn |
Yet, they are still "leaders" in minetest, even when they have done horrible things to others in MT |
| 20:34 |
bulletrulz |
i can admit stuff |
| 20:34 |
bulletrulz |
except i cant |
| 20:34 |
bulletrulz |
cause i have not done anything |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
<bulletrulz> c55 is a person who takes credit - you seem to be easily misled |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
Wow |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
the internet it not to be believed |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, wow |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
wow, wow wow |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
Jordach, r u dumb |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
you just used your argument against yourself |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
WHAT HAS C55 DO ! |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
DID |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
@bulletrulz, he has done a lot, but that was because Kahrl helped him |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
without kahrl, this game would have been dead |
| 20:36 |
Jordach |
<MiJyn> you just used your argument against yourself - i'm diagnosed with partial insanity and chronic depression |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, yep |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
allright |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
and autism |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
your poitn is....? |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
*point |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
I know what that is, I've had that too |
| 20:36 |
NakedFury |
you guys cant blame the "bad" community the game has when all you do is badmouth and talk crap about each other |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
before, but got cured :D |
| 20:36 |
bulletrulz |
too be honest he did alot till Modding was avvalbe then he just took peoples mods |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
bulletrulz - c55wool works with my wool |
| 20:37 |
MiJyn |
NakedFury, I'm just tring to make the community aware of what they have done |
| 20:37 |
MiJyn |
I hid behind before |
| 20:37 |
bulletrulz |
He takes peoples Mods and renames em |
| 20:38 |
bulletrulz |
mijyn has done alot |
| 20:38 |
MiJyn |
but now, since I'm leaving, I want to let everyone know what the community has done to me. I hope that it can become better, I really do! |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
bulletrulz - cw |
| 20:38 |
bulletrulz |
i have done nothing |
| 20:38 |
bulletrulz |
jordach idk |
| 20:38 |
bulletrulz |
EVERYBODY HERE IS MINETEST NOW! |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
vessels vanessa gladly subbmitted |
| 20:38 |
bulletrulz |
minetest will be the way u act |
| 20:39 |
MiJyn |
yeah, c55 does get influenced by the community |
| 20:39 |
MiJyn |
he is not strong, that's why he acts that way |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
MiJyn - several people recently have been giving push rights |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
c55 is nothing without u guys |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
NOTHING! |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
This is not his game |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
to celeron55/master |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
This IS OURS! |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
and in goes the ignore |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
idc! |
| 20:40 |
MiJyn |
Jordach, yeah, I know, but I was so disgusted by the code and the community a long time before he gave them |
| 20:40 |
bulletrulz |
ingore me go ahead |
| 20:40 |
bulletrulz |
XD |
| 20:40 |
bulletrulz |
IDC |
| 20:40 |
MiJyn |
I realize I have done some things wrong, exploding too much, but seriously... |
| 20:40 |
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| 20:41 |
MiJyn |
And I'm sorry for anything that I've done wrong, I really am! |
| 20:41 |
bulletrulz |
all said in done hes leaving im leaving |
| 20:41 |
bulletrulz |
more people will leave |
| 20:41 |
MiJyn |
But please, be nice to everyone |
| 20:41 |
MiJyn |
If nothing happens, I would have at least done my job |
| 20:42 |
MiJyn |
done the best I could to improve this community and this game |
| 20:42 |
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| 20:42 |
moltenbot |
Jave27's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC |
| 20:42 |
thexyz |
MiJyn: bye, again |
| 20:42 |
MiJyn |
I've been patient for a long time, but now I'm finished with this |
| 20:42 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, thanks lol |
| 20:43 |
MiJyn |
I think I've done enough. I've stated my point, and now I'll let the community decide what will happen. |
| 20:43 |
bulletrulz |
Good Bye Everyone lol |
| 20:43 |
bulletrulz |
:D |
| 20:43 |
bulletrulz |
good bye mijyn |
| 20:43 |
bulletrulz |
what wait |
| 20:43 |
MiJyn |
? |
| 20:43 |
bulletrulz |
nvm ill still talk to u |
| 20:43 |
MiJyn |
ok |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
loool |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
bye MiJyn |
| 20:44 |
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| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
see you in heaven / hell |
| 20:44 |
MiJyn |
I _will_ finish the nether mod as my goodbye "present" lol |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
we are going to die in 21 Dec. |
| 20:44 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
so... 10 days left |
| 20:44 |
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| 20:44 |
bulletrulz |
LOL |
| 20:44 |
bulletrulz |
KikaRz, NO 23 decemeber 24 |
| 20:44 |
* sema4 |
blinks |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
21 Dec will start |
| 20:44 |
KikaRz |
24 will finish. |
| 20:45 |
thexyz |
oh, he left |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, your carts mod its too laggy |
| 20:45 |
thexyz |
KikaRz: try its "attachment" branch |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
or that |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
when i right click it... |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
it goes without me |
| 20:45 |
KikaRz |
let me test the boats mod |
| 20:48 |
KikaRz |
boat is a bit better. |
| 20:58 |
* marktraceur |
asks if there's any good reason for him to be in this channel |
| 20:58 |
KikaRz |
marktraceur, so, you will accept me in your unignored list? |
| 20:58 |
Muadtralk |
in case someone says something intelligent? |
| 20:59 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: I've unignored you, yes |
| 20:59 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: I'm sure it's a possibility, but why am *I* here? |
| 21:00 |
Muadtralk |
to breathe on this earth then eventually die an agonizing death and decompose turing into soil which the ungrateful spawn of the future will walk upon? |
| 21:00 |
Muadtralk |
turning* |
| 21:01 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: s/here/in this channel/ you cheeky bastart |
| 21:01 |
marktraceur |
s/bastart/bastard/ |
| 21:02 |
Muadtralk |
since when? |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
Worst moment to die: When the scientists discover a big metal heart that lets you live forever. Costs 5 € or 2$ |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 21:02 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: What do you mean, since when? |
| 21:03 |
Muadtralk |
when did s/turing/turning catch on? |
| 21:03 |
sema4 |
in the 90's |
| 21:03 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: Since regexes and IRC existed? |
| 21:03 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 21:03 |
marktraceur |
No ideas as to why I should be in this channel? |
| 21:04 |
Muadtralk |
to keep peace? |
| 21:04 |
Muadtralk |
to protect the innocent? |
| 21:04 |
NakedFury |
for intelligent discussions about minetest, when they do happen. and to talk about mods |
| 21:04 |
sema4 |
marktraceur, i am wondering the same, the last 2 days i have seen plenty of drivel, not much sensible minetest discussion |
| 21:04 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: #minetest-mods |
| 21:05 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I haven't seen much of the former |
| 21:05 |
Muadtralk |
and #minetest-dev for important things |
| 21:06 |
Muadtralk |
and isn't there an even higher level? |
| 21:06 |
marktraceur |
*shrug* I don't know about that, I'm not an active engine developer |
| 21:07 |
Muadtralk |
wait..... #minetest-delta then #minetest-dev is for the elite |
| 21:07 |
marktraceur |
Ha, elite. |
| 21:08 |
Muadtralk |
thats what it says on the minetest-delta topic (04:06:31 PM) The topic for #minetest-delta is: minetest-delta ? Minetest developers | Logs: http://2pktfkt.de/irc/minetest-delta/ | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=patchsets | http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=dev_index | Elite development channel: #minetest-dev |
| 21:08 |
moltenbot |
Muadtralk's link: Logs |
| 21:08 |
marktraceur |
Wow. |
| 21:08 |
* marktraceur |
is becoming very convinced that volunteers aren't wanted |
| 21:09 |
Muadtralk |
its a hierarchy |
| 21:09 |
Muadtralk |
#minetest then #minetest-mods then #minetest-delta then #minetest-dev if you are worthy |
| 21:09 |
marktraceur |
Pff. |
| 21:10 |
marktraceur |
That about settles it, -delta is useless to me |
| 21:11 |
marktraceur |
But in here? What's the benefit to being in this channel? |
| 21:11 |
Muadtralk |
dealing with the utter nonsense and new players |
| 21:11 |
Muadtralk |
otherwise there is no reason |
| 21:11 |
marktraceur |
Hm. |
| 21:11 |
marktraceur |
Well, thanks for the help |
| 21:12 |
marktraceur |
I'll stick around for ~24 hours to see if anyone else has ideas |
| 21:12 |
NakedFury |
to chat about minetest with other users |
| 21:12 |
NakedFury |
to ignore when conversation is not about minetest |
| 21:13 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: this is the only minetest-related semi-active channel |
| 21:13 |
NakedFury |
talk about ideas or works in progress you are doing, either in a mod or the source |
| 21:13 |
thexyz |
-mods and -delta are both dead |
| 21:13 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I don't work on the source (and any work I did would be cast aside anyway), and mods are in -mods |
| 21:14 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Activity has become synonymous with jackassery in many instances |
| 21:15 |
NakedFury |
I dont think it would be cast aside if you did something. example of somethings that would not be cast aside include putting the config stuff into the games proper menu tab, adding ingame menu screen, bug fixes to the engine, better network stuff(apparently current one is not too good) |
| 21:16 |
Muadtralk |
apparently the maximum amount of users in #minetest-mods at one time was 12 |
| 21:16 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I've contributed before, the contribution was ultimately deprecated and my input as a contributor was ignored. |
| 21:16 |
Muadtralk |
so i would assume that its dead |
| 21:16 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Honestly I'm surprised I'm still in the credits. |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
Nooo |
| 21:17 |
KikaRz |
my world X_X' |
| 21:17 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: what did you contribute? |
| 21:17 |
NakedFury |
I think minetest source contributions should not be ignored or pushed aside |
| 21:17 |
Muadtralk |
you made saplings marktraceur didnt you? |
| 21:17 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: And ladders, yes. |
| 21:17 |
Muadtralk |
thanks for that |
| 21:17 |
Muadtralk |
those are two very important things |
| 21:18 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: If I thought I wasn't appreciated by users I'd be saying different things :) it's the project organization that's the issue here. |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
i guess im going to lose all world |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
it will be corrupted :'( |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
my game freezed. |
| 21:18 |
Muadtralk |
eh |
| 21:18 |
Muadtralk |
just restart the client |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
how? |
| 21:18 |
Muadtralk |
it may still be alive |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
i was running the terminal |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
then restart the command? |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
or figure out what went wrong? |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
game froze |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
ctrl + c didnt worked |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
that happens more often then you think |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
Yaaay! |
| 21:20 |
KikaRz |
its not corrupted! |
| 21:20 |
celeron55 |
lol, more minetest drama in here |
| 21:20 |
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| 21:20 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Well it's not like it's without cause. |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
celeron55, you must get that freezes out... |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
the game is running a bit bad. |
| 21:21 |
Muadtralk |
eh, i havent understood the drama for awhile |
| 21:21 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: the current situation is that this is the general discussion channel, and #minetest-dev is the channel that is used for eg. upstream merge discussions and engine stuff |
| 21:21 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: it's hard to set up some kind of a midway channel that would not die |
| 21:22 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Seems odd that you'd separate -dev and -delta to me |
| 21:22 |
Muadtralk |
and KikaRz usually its an issue with the computer running minetest or certain mods your running. at least in my case with those crashes anyway |
| 21:22 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: what does that mean? |
| 21:22 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: And generally that the project has very little organization |
| 21:22 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, im without mods |
| 21:22 |
KikaRz |
just with more blocks and boats |
| 21:23 |
Muadtralk |
so its the computer |
| 21:23 |
Muadtralk |
and is boats stable? |
| 21:23 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: ...and? |
| 21:23 |
Muadtralk |
i havent used it yet |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 21:23 |
KikaRz |
a bit |
| 21:23 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: you can always complain, but doing something to make things better is rarer |
| 21:23 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Exactly--the project is disorganized, and that's not changing, and that's troublesome. |
| 21:23 |
Muadtralk |
the words abit after yep just scared me abit |
| 21:24 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: If I thought you were receptive to any change, I might try to organize something. You've done nothing to indicate that you even want new contributors. |
| 21:24 |
celeron55 |
eh, wtf |
| 21:24 |
Muadtralk |
did you do a /clearobjects or something? generally my game freezes when i do that |
| 21:24 |
marktraceur |
(to me, maybe I've missed it) |
| 21:24 |
celeron55 |
i guess you just haven't been looking or intentionally want to see things like that |
| 21:26 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Well, I'm sorry that I've misunderstood. I'd suggest first step to be moving from Doku to MediaWiki, possibly consolidating the user and dev wikis. Then a doc sprint would be useful. I'd love to organize both in one fell swoop, sometime mid-January perhaps. |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, no |
| 21:26 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: are you saying you just need a mediawiki and a permission to stuff all dev and user stuff in one? |
| 21:27 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: There already is a mediawiki, and it's editable. I'll contact the wiki admin. I wanted your support because you know the code, and very few other people can say that (chicken and egg, with the docs shortage) |
| 21:27 |
celeron55 |
i personally hate mediawiki though... i wonder if there are better alternatives |
| 21:28 |
celeron55 |
the minetest.com wiki? |
| 21:28 |
marktraceur |
Whatever is linked to from minetest.net as "Wiki" |
| 21:29 |
celeron55 |
i'm actually always quite uncertain about it, because the admins of it don't (afaik) hang around in the community really at all |
| 21:29 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: That's not helpful then, yeah. Maybe a new instance at wiki.minetest.net ? |
| 21:31 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I don't know about alternatives, though. MediaWiki is nice and standard, and friendly...not to mention good for community editing |
| 21:33 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I suppose we could play it cool and have a git repository for docs (or just a subdirectory of the engine), then build the docs into an HTML site |
| 21:33 |
sema4 |
what is the problem with the current wiki? is it locked from editing? |
| 21:34 |
marktraceur |
sema4: It's only for users, the devwiki is a little low-tech-seeming, and generally the developer docs are sub-par |
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| 21:37 |
celeron55 |
as i would probably be the maintainer of the hosting of the wiki, i don't really want more dodgy php stuff |
| 21:37 |
marktraceur |
Heh. |
| 21:37 |
celeron55 |
i wonder if this is good: https://github.com/benjaoming/django-wiki |
| 21:37 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: benjaoming/django-wiki ? GitHub |
| 21:37 |
VanessaE |
good evening all. |
| 21:37 |
sema4 |
hi VanessaE |
| 21:38 |
celeron55 |
i am going to switch the main site to django when i have a bit of time |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Looks like replacing dodgy PHP stuff with dodgy Python stuff |
| 21:38 |
celeron55 |
django is pretty solid |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: It's not like you can claim mediawiki isn't stable and rather good software :) |
| 21:38 |
celeron55 |
django is a web framework, php is a programming language |
| 21:39 |
marktraceur |
(he says, in a room with most of the people who write mediawiki) |
| 21:39 |
celeron55 |
implementing all on one framework makes a more solid site than using multiple frameworks on top of php |
| 21:39 |
frogcrush |
I could write a sys up in asp.net :D |
| 21:39 |
celeron55 |
mediawiki has it's own, as does punbb, as does wordpress, as does... ehm, everything |
| 21:40 |
celeron55 |
also, php has a culture of bad programming, which is baaaaaaaad on a public site |
| 21:40 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 21:41 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: FWIW, we have some crackerjack security people, and a lot of sticklers for code quality. But it's up to you ultimately. |
| 21:41 |
celeron55 |
also, i want to support better technologies |
| 21:41 |
celeron55 |
but what i am asking is if eg. django-wiki has it's user side on par with anything |
| 21:42 |
celeron55 |
there is some kind of a test wiki here http://wiki.overtag.dk/ |
| 21:42 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: Start page -- django-\/\/ i K | |
| 21:42 |
celeron55 |
if mediawiki offers something that is needed that nothing else provides, then it obviously is the only choice |
| 21:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
celeron55, how does an entity set it's light value? |
| 21:44 |
thexyz |
mediawiki is the most powerful one, i guess |
| 21:45 |
thexyz |
though its syntax is far from best |
| 21:45 |
thexyz |
especially those {{{{{{{{{{{ and }}}}}}}} |
| 21:45 |
celeron55 |
i don't want the most powerful one; i want the one which is powerful enough and which will be easy to maintain for me |
| 21:45 |
celeron55 |
and i am always looking for chances of learning stuff when doing open source things |
| 21:46 |
thexyz |
btw, celeron55, i think it'll be fine now to replace current api.minetest.net with the new one http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page |
| 21:46 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Minetest API |
| 21:47 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: if it has the same content, feel free to |
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| 21:47 |
thexyz |
ok, i'll switch it later |
| 21:48 |
thexyz |
(actually, api.minetest.net currently contains many mistakes) |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
oh, i forgot to move article about naming |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
and the getting starting one |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
wtf? http://wiki.overtag.dk/bASWcZqgYIvq/ |
| 21:49 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: AFLWPDjPHfrJIKcTxQD -- django-\/\/ i K | |
| 21:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
lmfao |
| 21:50 |
celeron55 |
it's freely editable 8) |
| 21:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
and c55 you're in my mod http://i.imgur.com/WecUx.png xD |
| 21:50 |
thexyz |
does it have any anti-spam? |
| 21:51 |
celeron55 |
what kind of? |
| 21:51 |
thexyz |
is it ok for me to close this topic? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4038 |
| 21:51 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Leaving (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
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| 21:53 |
thexyz |
celeron55: umm? |
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| 21:53 |
NakedFury |
make a leaving are in the forums so posts can rot there |
| 21:54 |
celeron55 |
i wonder why so many people have such a large urge to shout about their quittings |
| 21:54 |
cisoun |
I wonder why you still use CTP9. |
| 21:54 |
thexyz |
attention-whoring |
| 21:54 |
celeron55 |
i guess it's because they haven't paid for minetest |
| 21:54 |
youlysses |
Just tried minetest for the first time after a-long break from minecraft (turned full/hardcore faif-advocate) and I'm super impressed. :-3 |
| 21:55 |
celeron55 |
so they don't feel any obligation to sound like they have made the right buying decision 8) |
| 21:55 |
NakedFury |
you like it youlysses? |
| 21:55 |
thexyz |
>see, i'm leaving, pity me! |
| 21:56 |
jin_xi |
lol |
| 21:56 |
celeron55 |
anyway, just close it |
| 21:56 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: FYI, the template nonsense is getting replaced with Lua |
| 21:56 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto |
| 21:56 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: Extension:Scribunto - MediaWiki |
| 21:56 |
celeron55 |
it's not a place for constructive critcism or anything anyway |
| 21:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
>i wonder why so many people have such a large urge to shout about their quittings |
| 21:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
attention whoring |
| 21:57 |
youlysses |
NakedFury: I do! |
| 21:57 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Might be useful to use that on a Minetest wiki, you might even be able to set it up so you can load a mod script and auto-detect the register_node and register_craft stuff |
| 21:57 |
celeron55 |
maybe i'll delegate the marktraceur's wiki stuff to thexyz |
| 21:58 |
celeron55 |
8) |
| 21:58 |
celeron55 |
-the |
| 21:58 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: FWIW I'm shouting about the state of the community, and me quitting would just be a result of that concern. |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
api documentation as a wiki would be a nice start |
| 21:59 |
celeron55 |
i highly respect people who actually do something to make the community a better place |
| 21:59 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: are there any usage examples? |
| 21:59 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: For Lua? Sure, mw.org is using it now. |
| 22:00 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: can you provide some links? just to see how can it be used |
| 22:00 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module:Compare |
| 22:00 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: Module:Compare - MediaWiki |
| 22:00 |
markveidemanis |
anyone any good at interior design? |
| 22:00 |
youlysses |
What's "use"? That to place a block? |
| 22:01 |
marktraceur |
youlysses: As in, the key binding for 'use'? |
| 22:01 |
marktraceur |
youlysses: It's normally used for going down ladders/ropes or going down in free-move |
| 22:01 |
celeron55 |
actually the default is to use shift for going down |
| 22:02 |
* youlysses |
is using dvorak, and for some reason his right track pad doesn't seem to be working in-game nor does there seem to be an option to place blokcs in keybindings. |
| 22:02 |
marktraceur |
Oh, hm, that changed then |
| 22:02 |
celeron55 |
but there is an option for using that key for going down things |
| 22:02 |
thexyz |
celeron55: why was it changed, btw? |
| 22:02 |
celeron55 |
many people seemed to want it |
| 22:03 |
marktraceur |
youlysses: I've had trouble with dvorak on GNU/Linux as well. I usually re-bind crouch to left ctrl, the direction keys to ,aoe, and use to . |
| 22:03 |
celeron55 |
and it's more intuitive to newcomers anyway |
| 22:03 |
sema4 |
personally i prefer the separation of down vs use |
| 22:03 |
youlysses |
marktraceur: Yup, dvorak here too. :-P |
| 22:04 |
markveidemanis |
interion architect? |
| 22:04 |
markveidemanis |
#r |
| 22:04 |
marktraceur |
(I'm not psychic, youlysses joins us from the LibrePlanet community, based around FSF support) |
| 22:04 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: i don't understand how can that replace templates |
| 22:05 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: django has an akismet app thingy whatever that can be somehow easily added to almost anything i believe |
| 22:05 |
celeron55 |
kind of hard to find direct examples of doing that with the wiki |
| 22:05 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Not all templates--stuff like frequently-typed phrases could still be useful (like {{cn}} for the citation needed stuff), but something complicated like "List 40 like things" could be much better in a module. |
| 22:06 |
sema4 |
markveidemanis: i'll bite; what do you need? |
| 22:06 |
thexyz |
this one is quite good http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets, but it lacks ability to include widgets on Widget: page |
| 22:06 |
markveidemanis |
look at my screenshots and plz give recommendations of what to put on inside |
| 22:06 |
markveidemanis |
oh whoops i broke the internet:) |
| 22:06 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Well, and it's not for internal use, it's for including external content mostly |
| 22:11 |
thexyz |
how about "i" |
| 22:11 |
thexyz |
"i'm leaving" post = ban? |
| 22:12 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: For what purpose? |
| 22:12 |
celeron55 |
anwyay, i'm completely fine with thexyz hosting a complete wiki for minetest and will allocate wiki.minetest.net for that if it happens |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Mid-January documentation sprint sound like fun, if we can get a wiki up and running by then? |
| 22:13 |
celeron55 |
maybe we should set up like monthly publications of wiki and forum data for extra redundancy |
| 22:13 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 22:13 |
thexyz |
it's already "up-and-running" |
| 22:14 |
marktraceur |
January 19th has a nice ring to it |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
Didn't cornernote give back his API docs? |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, BTW can we revive NekoGloop threads and reassign owner? |
| 22:14 |
OldCoder |
Excuse me; I was napping briefly |
| 22:14 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: ask c55 for reassigning |
| 22:14 |
celeron55 |
punbb makes that quite painful |
| 22:14 |
celeron55 |
so if at all possible, i'd rather not |
| 22:15 |
thexyz |
ok, then let's just repost them |
| 22:15 |
* youlysses |
is easily impressed. He was so glad to see that objects in each slot in your invetory can now hold 99 units. :-3 |
| 22:15 |
celeron55 |
i will never ever again use forum software that does not have editing history of topics |
| 22:15 |
celeron55 |
i don't even know if any like that exist but then i'll just use nothing... |
| 22:15 |
thexyz |
are there any which support this feature? |
| 22:16 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, celeron55, fair enough. May I have the raw data? I'll post it on a mirror that I maintain myself. NekoThreads I mean. |
| 22:16 |
OldCoder |
Safe from deletion |
| 22:17 |
thexyz |
oh, well, there's extension for vbulletin which is capable of that |
| 22:17 |
celeron55 |
to get the messages, i need to import a database dump to my test punbb server and either i or somebody else has to browse up the threads from there and copy-paste by hand |
| 22:17 |
celeron55 |
it's like hell but worse |
| 22:17 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, I might do that |
| 22:17 |
thexyz |
the only problem is that vbulletin costs something like 200$ |
| 22:17 |
OldCoder |
Using Perl |
| 22:17 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: an unlimited license? |
| 22:17 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, would you be able to provide me with a database dump? |
| 22:18 |
thexyz |
celeron55: no way |
| 22:18 |
celeron55 |
OldCoder: no because my dumps contain passwords and all that, i need to make a script to make limited ones some day |
| 22:18 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 22:18 |
NakedFury |
youlysses: the max is 99 but if you use the commands /giveme item -99 it will give something like 65k total items. this new stack cant take more of the same when mining more, it only goes down |
| 22:18 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, O.K. If you repost NekoThreads I will capture them from outside. How about that? |
| 22:18 |
thexyz |
oh, this extension is only compatible with VB 3.something which is no longer sold |
| 22:19 |
celeron55 |
OldCoder: tomorrow |
| 22:19 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 22:19 |
frogcrush |
celeron55: Do you need a wiki platform? |
| 22:20 |
marktraceur |
frogcrush: Thoughts are welcome |
| 22:20 |
celeron55 |
anyone want to implement post editing history to punbb? 8) |
| 22:20 |
celeron55 |
yummy php! |
| 22:20 |
thexyz |
well, as for now, the most powerful*popular forum engine is xenforo, afaik |
| 22:21 |
celeron55 |
how old are neko's posts? i already have a backup of punbb running at a place thexyz knows |
| 22:22 |
celeron55 |
hmm, most likely way too old |
| 22:22 |
OldCoder |
I don't think I captured the posts but they go back a ways |
| 22:22 |
thexyz |
celeron55: it's fine |
| 22:22 |
thexyz |
i checked it before |
| 22:23 |
celeron55 |
you can give OldCoder the user and password and url for it |
| 22:24 |
thexyz |
i will |
| 22:25 |
NakedFury |
thexyz another leaving post |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
catch! |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
too lazy to read his post thogh |
| 22:26 |
celeron55 |
lol |
| 22:26 |
thexyz |
well, he's 14 |
| 22:26 |
thexyz |
that explains a lot |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, What? |
| 22:27 |
* OldCoder |
is confused |
| 22:27 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: ? |
| 22:27 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Who left? |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
Who is 14? I am older |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
Last time I checked :p |
| 22:27 |
thexyz |
OldCoder: lkjoel is |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 22:27 |
NakedFury |
myjin |
| 22:27 |
NakedFury |
mijyn |
| 22:27 |
thexyz |
you're more like ~50 i guess |
| 22:28 |
OldCoder |
thexyz, Older :-) |
| 22:28 |
OldCoder |
But not important |
| 22:28 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 22:28 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: What does his being 14 explain? |
| 22:28 |
thexyz |
a lot |
| 22:28 |
celeron55 |
the interesting thing about these posts is that nothing can be done about them |
| 22:28 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: For example.... |
| 22:29 |
celeron55 |
and the subjects of the posts |
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| 22:30 |
celeron55 |
if somebody declares minetest to be doomed - then, like, what? |
| 22:30 |
celeron55 |
it's not like somebody had a magic wand to make it not doomed |
| 22:30 |
sema4 |
how can anyone doom an open source project. |
| 22:31 |
* sema4 |
shrugs. |
| 22:31 |
celeron55 |
even assuming it *was* doomed (which doesn't really seem to be the case, by looking at the big picture) |
| 22:31 |
marktraceur |
sema4: Easy - be an absolute ass in the IRC channel. They make it easy here by not interfering in anybody's business. |
| 22:32 |
celeron55 |
there are lots of things to do to keep this thing going though |
| 22:33 |
celeron55 |
for example somebody needs to start planning and figuring out 0.5 at some point |
| 22:33 |
celeron55 |
and 0.4 will be long in use while 0.5 is in development |
| 22:33 |
celeron55 |
in development too |
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| 22:34 |
celeron55 |
there are so many things that could use big redesigns and rewrites |
| 22:34 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Docs will help. |
| 22:34 |
thexyz |
oh, wait, "To the mods: Please think before closing this topic. I cannot see how this could violate the forum rules" |
| 22:35 |
thexyz |
i haven't even read this, i feel bad now |
| 22:35 |
celeron55 |
i think lkjoel's post could be kept open |
| 22:36 |
thexyz |
ok |
| 22:36 |
celeron55 |
maybe there is someting in it that is worth talking about |
| 22:36 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: You didn't really answer my question above, are you busy? |
| 22:36 |
celeron55 |
if it starts as a flame war, just close it then though 8) |
| 22:37 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: i don't know how to express that.. he just acts differently |
| 22:37 |
celeron55 |
also, thexyz: bang people in the head (including me) if you get too much work; you are being too helpful |
| 22:37 |
marktraceur |
Hrm. |
| 22:37 |
thexyz |
i don't think so, but whatever |
| 22:38 |
celeron55 |
i need to say that to people just in case |
| 22:38 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: ? |
| 22:39 |
thexyz |
don't you think so? |
| 22:39 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Not really. He's been in here, chatting, and I haven't noticed anything too different. |
| 22:40 |
celeron55 |
if you're talking about it being unsurpising that a 14-year old leaves, i think an obvious "maybe" answer to that is that they generally are just going about finding what they like to do and naturally move to new things when they find that something doesn't work for them |
| 22:41 |
marktraceur |
Reasonable to say, yes. |
| 22:41 |
celeron55 |
that is, they haven't grown up yet |
| 22:42 |
celeron55 |
altough some of the things in that post are just silly... why do people force themselves to remember so small things and make the small things make everybody's life much more inconvenient in the future because of that? |
| 22:44 |
celeron55 |
otoh, i can see why lkjoel is pissed off; he really seems to have problems figuring out with whom it is beneficial to do stuff |
| 22:45 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Really, running a community is hard, and I understand that. But it's the little things that you have to watch for....in the future, another person may have the same problem. |
| 22:46 |
celeron55 |
do you have some immediate ideas that would make the life of a future lkjoel easier? |
| 22:47 |
* marktraceur |
hasn't read his post, link? |
| 22:47 |
celeron55 |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4039 |
| 22:47 |
moltenbot |
celeron55's link: The community has killed minetest. I'm leaving! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 22:48 |
marktraceur |
Oh, MiJyn === lkjoel |
| 22:49 |
celeron55 |
from what i can see from what he wrote, he seems to have done work, but for things that quite were just... doomed to go to oblivion |
| 22:51 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Suggested solutions: Enthusiastic happiness about every patch and suggestion that comes through official channels, community-centric review as opposed to "Oooh, there's celeron55, he has to review it" (using a code review tool might help) (c.f. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org), saturating the community with more developers so the community-centric review gives a lot more diverse feedback |
| 22:52 |
celeron55 |
it all ends up in not having some kind of solid organization in the project, but if i try to do any of that, people will just take it as bureaucracy and elitism |
| 22:52 |
marktraceur |
(the last one is long-term, but meh) |
| 22:52 |
celeron55 |
so if that is going to happen, it has to come from somebody else than me |
| 22:52 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Well, it comes down to needing infrastructure and software, I suppose. |
| 22:53 |
celeron55 |
and to be honest, the fact that i gave thexyz, PilzAdam and darkrose push access to upstream has made things much better |
| 22:53 |
celeron55 |
= things actually go there if i just idle |
| 22:56 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 22:56 |
marktraceur |
I'd be excited to see more people able to submit patches more easily, as well as more people able to review and merge code. |
| 22:56 |
celeron55 |
what i'd really like to try is to give certain people areas of responsibility, but you can't force that |
| 22:56 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Splitting the repository, maybe, could do it |
| 22:57 |
celeron55 |
and growing it up from what minetest traditionally has been is hard as hell |
| 22:57 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Have minetest-lua_api and minetest-client_code and so on, and a jenkins job that pulls them in and commits everything to minetest-core after each commit to everything |
| 22:57 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: that will create terrible mess from building the project |
| 22:57 |
celeron55 |
having two repos is already hard enough |
| 22:57 |
Kray |
that is just stupid |
| 22:58 |
celeron55 |
and indeed minetest+minetest_game DOES give a nice spread of responsibility |
| 22:59 |
marktraceur |
Kray: Thanks, that's helpful feedback |
| 22:59 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Agreed, but there may be better splits as well. Maybe a mapper repository, or a util repository? |
| 23:00 |
celeron55 |
what would that help? |
| 23:00 |
celeron55 |
it'll just make things slip out of sync |
| 23:00 |
celeron55 |
and makes things hard |
| 23:00 |
Kray |
it can only be kept sane with celeron55 pulling all the stuff to upstream |
| 23:00 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Someone with Python experience, but no ability to run C++, could be given access to it. |
| 23:01 |
celeron55 |
you can generally just tell people what they are allowed to do, and they'll follow it |
| 23:01 |
marktraceur |
True |
| 23:02 |
celeron55 |
for example, now there are basically... three levels of things for the minetest repo |
| 23:02 |
celeron55 |
they are not written anywhere or anything, but people just follow some unwritten rules |
| 23:03 |
FreeFull |
They should be written down for convienience |
| 23:04 |
celeron55 |
the first is bugfixes of few lines; those generally go in with a single question from a single other one with upstream access |
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celeron55 |
hmm... i'm not actually sure how to form the others |
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OldCoder |
frogcrush, wb |
| 23:07 |
celeron55 |
actually, i think stuff just goes to two categories; one being bugfixes and smallish non-gameplay-changing things, and the other one is considerable gameplay changes and large engine reworks and additions |
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trippedoutfish |
sup |
| 23:07 |
celeron55 |
the first one goes as i said, and for the second one people wait for me to comment on |
| 23:08 |
celeron55 |
this already makes the situation much better for me than before |
| 23:08 |
marktraceur |
True! And much better for others. |
| 23:08 |
* OldCoder |
is on an errand for a couple of hours but may return by Android |
| 23:08 |
celeron55 |
there are two things that make it necessary for people to ask about big things from me |
| 23:08 |
marktraceur |
I think one other change we could make is having a clear path to core access, or to minetest_game access. |
| 23:09 |
* frogcrush |
waves to OldCoder |
| 23:09 |
celeron55 |
the first one is that i am the one who knows everythin about the code |
| 23:09 |
celeron55 |
+g |
| 23:09 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: would you mind testing that you can reach vanessae.mine.bz:30000 and then add that as "VanessaE's Testing Server" to your server monitoring page? |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Hopefully helped by the docs sprint. The second thing being? |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
(requires 0.4.4 of course) |
| 23:10 |
thexyz |
!up vanessae.mine.bz |
| 23:10 |
celeron55 |
i can immediately see if something is completely stupid considering the design principles of some part, or if some part influences some non-obvious another one |
| 23:10 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
well that answers that :D |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I guess that unit testing could help that |
| 23:10 |
celeron55 |
the second one is that there is no long-term plan for what features and gameplay things to add |
| 23:11 |
celeron55 |
so i am the sole authority on that one |
| 23:11 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: We could also have a more centralized way to discuss changes that should get made, e.g. forum posts or wiki pages. But yeah, long-term stuff is mostly yours. |
| 23:12 |
celeron55 |
i think it is odd and awesome that people will trust me to do that even still, but this is not a very scalable or sustainable solution in the range of years |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
True. |
| 23:12 |
celeron55 |
i think not having democratic decision making is good for a game though |
| 23:13 |
celeron55 |
so it needs some thought |
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marktraceur |
I guess that, as people get core access, they should understand that merging gameplay changes is important, but should be discussed anyway |
| 23:14 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Ultimately, we need to trust the core access people to make good changes as opposed to bad ones, and then it won't be a blocker for merge. |
| 23:14 |
celeron55 |
ideally i should form a group of people that i think can decide stuff as a team towards a consistent non-generic goal |
| 23:14 |
celeron55 |
and they would have the authority on gameplay |
| 23:15 |
celeron55 |
other thins can be handled more like for programs in g eneral |
| 23:15 |
celeron55 |
-" " |
| 23:15 |
celeron55 |
+g |
| 23:16 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I guess generally, the guiding principle should be "If someone's going to think 'I wish this were configurable' and it isn't, don't merge it" |
| 23:16 |
celeron55 |
currently things are going quite fine in terms of making an engine, but we are far off from where we maybe could be in terms of making a game |
| 23:16 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: no, gameplay does not work like that |
| 23:16 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: other parts work |
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marktraceur |
celeron55: Are you thinking content? Like, changes to minetest_game? |
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BackupCoder |
ve pm me pls |
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marktraceur |
I'm going to guess BackupCoder means to ping VanessaE ? |
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BackupCoder |
uberi hi |
| 23:40 |
Uberi |
hey |
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NakedFury |
hey |
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hohoho |
~_~ |
| 23:49 |
hohoho |
anyone interested in a mars themed minetest? |
| 23:50 |
marktraceur |
hohoho: So.....desert sand and stone all the way down? |
| 23:50 |
hohoho |
back earlier in the year I did a slight mod to the game code and added some mods and changes to theme minetest as if you were on mars and had to create a colony |
| 23:51 |
hohoho |
well basically a world of "desert" with certain mods to make it seem more like a space colony. I haven't updated it in about a year and trying to get some motivation to do it. I won't bother however unless someone else might enjoy it |
| 23:51 |
hohoho |
I did it as a sort of learning experience in lua and c |
| 23:51 |
marktraceur |
hohoho: It sounds sort of interesting. Terraforming, that sort of thing? |
| 23:52 |
marktraceur |
hohoho: Do you have e.g. air nodes and mars_air nodes, and the latter are deadly over time? |
| 23:52 |
VanessaE |
gah! what was codeandfix thinking by locking down the whole world by default (node_ownership)???? |
| 23:52 |
Uberi |
getting serious about griefers, perhaps? |
| 23:52 |
* marktraceur |
would play that, hohoho |
| 23:53 |
hohoho |
well by default the whole "world" is like current desert except cactus is modded to look like some alien plant. all recipes for items are modded to use desert items and some greenery remains but you have limited resources that you brought with you |
| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
well sure, but I know I'd sure prefer that the world NOT be locked down by default. |
| 23:53 |
NakedFury |
that would be an interesting mode hohoho |
| 23:53 |
marktraceur |
hohoho: I would strongly suggest including oxygen scarcity and terraforming. |
| 23:53 |
hohoho |
VanessaE there's a topic somewhere on the forum I posted a "fix" for node_ownership so the world by default is diggable |
| 23:54 |
* hohoho |
looks on forum |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=846 <-- the original |
| 23:54 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [Mod] Node ownership [node_ownership] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 23:54 |
* VanessaE |
gives the bot a good, solid kick. |
| 23:55 |
NakedFury |
an oxygen tech tree would be interesting. you need plants to create oxygen giving machines. living in closed areas |
| 23:55 |
hohoho |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55096#p55096 |
| 23:55 |
moltenbot |
hohoho's link: Request to alter this mod slightly (no idea how to myself) (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 23:55 |
hohoho |
that node_ownership is altered so whole world is diggable by default. only owned land isn't diggable |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
dead link. |
| 23:55 |
hohoho |
imo the way it should be by default |
| 23:55 |
hohoho |
dead already? |
| 23:56 |
hohoho |
well let me repackage |
| 23:56 |
hohoho |
lol |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
it takes me to a generic upload page for filedropper |
| 23:56 |
hohoho |
as for oxygen starvation, no idea how to implement such |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
hohoho: use ompldr, they don't delete files :-) |
| 23:58 |
hohoho |
http://ompldr.org/vZ25wMw |
| 23:59 |
hohoho |
there |
| 23:59 |
hohoho |
lol |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
ah, thanks |
| 23:59 |
hohoho |
ill have to keep that file host in mind |
| 23:59 |
ecube |
hohoho: take a look at the drowning mod's code |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
can you also add a post to the end of the node_ownership thread to reference this? |
