| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
KikaRz |
going to sleep |
| 00:00 |
KikaRz |
byee |
| 00:00 |
KikaRz |
Only one more last definition |
| 00:00 |
KikaRz |
!define cookies |
| 00:00 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: cookie definition: a small flat or slightly raised cake. |
| 00:00 |
KikaRz |
*_* |
| 00:00 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty |
| 00:01 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, is there a recommended set of mods? |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/ |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, conifers, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
default, doors, dye, farming, fire, gloopores, habitat, hatches, homedecor, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
jungletree, legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
minetest-mod-jumping, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, particles, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
pipeworks, plantlife, player_textures, sethome, signs, stairs, stairsplus, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
technic, unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels, wool, |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
workbench, worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
I use all of those :-) |
| 00:01 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 00:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, If I run this; visit later and use Places to record your places |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
the house in particular takes from technic, stairsplus, homedecor, moreblocks, and others. |
| 00:02 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 00:02 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, any chance of uploading a ZIP of your _game folder? |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
sure, sec. |
| 00:02 |
OldCoder |
That will be much easier |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
uh Vanessa |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
uploading... |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
got a problem |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
[ 32%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/main.cpp.o |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/server.cpp.o: file not recognized: File truncated |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
make[2]: *** [bin/minetest] Error 1 |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all] Error 2 |
| 00:03 |
KikaRz |
make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: sounds like your minetest sources got trashed when the computer locked up. |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
git pull -f |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
then compile again |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip |
| 00:04 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, ty |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: I'm not 100% content with the floor plan of that house, I'm not sure it's correct to scale/shape.. but it's damn close if not :-) |
| 00:05 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, a copy of the world will be displayed on my servers. If I don't grant people interact then it can be updated later with new versions of your original. You must come and state places. |
| 00:05 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9 made a mod for this |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:05 |
OldCoder |
You can add places to your inventory |
| 00:06 |
OldCoder |
Sudi, Hi |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: OH, that world runs a modified version of default/init.lua where I changed how mese behaves |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
(it's included in that game zip) |
| 00:08 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, got it |
| 00:08 |
OldCoder |
I'll modify my scripts to take that into account |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
I made mese act like a regular ore - mine it to drop mese lumps, smelt those to ingots, craft those to mese pick or craft stone + mese lump back to mese ore for use with old mods. |
| 00:08 |
OldCoder |
Consider my copy to be a mirror for now |
| 00:08 |
OldCoder |
Copying that text |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/60 |
| 00:08 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: Changed Mese object to be more consistent with other ores (see below). by VanessaE ? Pull Request #60 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
htse are the changes. |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
these* |
| 00:09 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 00:09 |
OldCoder |
Copied into file |
| 00:09 |
OldCoder |
Useful in general? ^ VanessaE |
| 00:09 |
OldCoder |
Should I make this patch for everybody? |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
I don't know |
| 00:09 |
OldCoder |
What might it break? Sounds reasonable |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
I am not sure if a world created or modified with that change in place will revert properly if the change is undone |
| 00:10 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 00:10 |
OldCoder |
We'll wait then |
| 00:10 |
OldCoder |
Just for your world |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
worst case? mapgen'd mese will turn to unknown blocks until more is generated elsewhere. |
| 00:10 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
now I just gotta get c55 to pull that update so I can make HDX textures to follow. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: damn. it's a one-way conversion. Worldedit would be needed to revert the changes. |
| 00:19 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, don't worry about it |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
I just tried a copy using an unmodified default/init.lua and mese turns to unknown blocks |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
oh well. |
| 00:19 |
OldCoder |
If the change is useful it can be part of your world permanently |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
it s. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
is. |
| 00:19 |
OldCoder |
I will copy your world and maintain the copy |
| 00:20 |
OldCoder |
Indicate when you wish to update it |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
it makes mese finally behave like a mineral. |
| 00:20 |
OldCoder |
So discussion should take place about using it elsewhere |
| 00:20 |
TANKERx64 |
thisisaverylongsentencewithoutspacesanditmightannoyalotofpeopletoseethis. |
| 00:20 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:25 |
TANKERx64 |
mewo |
| 00:25 |
OldCoder |
mewo? |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
dyslexic kitty car? |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
cat* |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:55 |
TANKERx64 |
http://imgur.com/gallery/mfquR |
| 00:55 |
moltenbot |
TANKERx64's link: CAKE DAY BITCH! HAVE SOME CAKE - Imgur |
| 01:10 |
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| 01:13 |
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| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
meow. |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk |
| 01:14 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
Well i appear to be psychotic tonight |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
this oughta be fun |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
wanna see my house implemented in minetest? :-) |
| 01:15 |
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| 01:15 |
NekoGloop |
i think i may have already seen it, but show me anyhow |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
you can't have, I just built it earlier today :-) |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 port 30000 |
| 01:15 |
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| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: some lag, I'm using worldedit to do some maintenance. |
| 01:24 |
NekoGloop |
GOOD GOD |
| 01:24 |
NekoGloop |
youtube, calm thyself. |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
give it time. I was stupid and ran the //dig command instead of using //set air :-) |
| 01:25 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: those are the same |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
er, no it ain't :-) |
| 01:25 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: better to //replace the blocks you are targeting individually |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
//dig actually goes through the process of digging blocks so the light recalculates. |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
//set air doesn't :-) |
| 01:25 |
NekoGloop |
Are you killing my 20 dollahs? |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
there we go, that's done. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
naw, just clearing out some excess cobble. |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
connecting to server... |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
connecting to server... |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
connecting to server... |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
connecting to server... |
| 01:26 |
NekoGloop |
connecting to server... |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
I think I crashed it :D |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, i have to share this |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
hang on, lemme restart it |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
In my college class, our teacher asked what a typeface was. |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
Me, being the smartalleck i am, said "it's when you type with your face" |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
He, then, banged his head on his keyboard |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
there. I'll show that fucker who's boss. |
| 01:28 |
NekoGloop |
Everyone in the class laughed for a good minute. |
| 01:28 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: read above. :3 |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:38 |
TANKERx64 |
meep |
| 01:41 |
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| 01:43 |
davidpace |
Is there any way for me to automatically log-in everytime I visit this site? |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
davidpace: depends on your IRC client, which at present looks to be the web chat |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
programs like Xchat or mIRC can auto-login to a channel on startup |
| 01:43 |
davidpace |
It is webchat |
| 01:47 |
NekoGloop |
say hello... to slenderman... http://ompldr.org/vZ21mOA |
| 01:47 |
davidpace |
What is this? |
| 01:48 |
davidpace |
ohhhhh |
| 01:48 |
davidpace |
okay :) |
| 01:48 |
NekoGloop |
http://ompldr.org/vZ21mYQ |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
eucchhh... default 16px textures :-) |
| 01:49 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: I know. Too bad my texture pack is even worse :s |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
use my 64px HDX and all will be right with the world ;-) |
| 01:49 |
NekoGloop |
no it wont |
| 01:49 |
NekoGloop |
because then my computer will have a heart attack |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
even with 64px? |
| 01:50 |
NekoGloop |
even with 32px |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
try anyway - even my anemic little laptop can handle 64px and still be playable :-) |
| 01:56 |
davidpace |
I'd have to say VE's HDX Textures are the best I've seen yet :-) |
| 01:56 |
davidpace |
Those, and MineToons |
| 01:56 |
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| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
why can no one appreciate old-school :s |
| 01:57 |
cy1 |
hello NekoGloop |
| 01:57 |
NekoGloop |
gtfo |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
hey cy |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
F10 |
| 01:58 |
NekoGloop |
also known as the logout button |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
kah--rash! |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 01:58 |
davidpace |
I appreciate "old-school". Its just not as good as VanessaE's and Gambits Texture Packs :) |
| 01:58 |
davidpace |
My Personal Opinnion though |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk |
| 01:59 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
that's an opinion I can agree with ;) |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
kill the bot pls |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
i cant troll if this thing is here |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:59 |
davidpace |
:-) |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
tis a good song though |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
ignore the strange title. |
| 02:00 |
davidpace |
Too Late |
| 02:00 |
davidpace |
;-) |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
hm? |
| 02:00 |
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| 02:01 |
davidpace |
Nevermind |
| 02:01 |
davidpace |
I'll listen to it though |
| 02:02 |
davidpace |
O_o Strange music |
| 02:02 |
davidpace |
Strange lyrics O_o |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
... huh, woulda thought you'd say something about the picture |
| 02:03 |
NekoGloop |
what is strange about it though? |
| 02:03 |
davidpace |
Strange picture O_o |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
There, now you've covered all your bases. |
| 02:04 |
davidpace |
Its Just not the kinda music I listen to. |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
heh. |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
I'm morbid today, can you tell? |
| 02:04 |
davidpace |
Don't really like songs about girls burning in flames O_o |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
not girls burning in flames |
| 02:05 |
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| 02:05 |
davidpace |
Its what it sounds like |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
-pictures- of girls burning in a fire |
| 02:05 |
davidpace |
Oh fine |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
*groan* |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
"I will burn in a fire photographs of your desire" |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: wat? |
| 02:06 |
davidpace |
VE You like it? O_o? |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
certainly not.. |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
I am not into weird stuff like that. |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
she hasnt even listened to it |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
I don't need to :-) |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-) |
| 02:07 |
arm44 |
who else has notoriety: Forever alone on imgur, show of hands? |
| 02:07 |
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| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
not me. I use my own webspace for that. |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: let's just say it's about jealousy of a morbid girl. |
| 02:07 |
davidpace |
Did I miss your answer VE? |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
[12-08 21:07] <VanessaE> I don't need to :-) |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
[12-08 21:07] * davidpace has quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
[12-08 21:07] <VanessaE> I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-) |
| 02:07 |
davidpace |
My Router disconnected |
| 02:07 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, you can't correct someone when they're WRONG ON THE INTERNET on your own webspace |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
true. :-) |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
everything is wrong on the internet |
| 02:08 |
davidpace |
Not minetest? |
| 02:08 |
davidpace |
O_O |
| 02:08 |
arm44 |
if anyone's wondering, they limit your ability to downvote, and you don't auto-upvote your own comments anymore |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
some things are more "OMFG WAT IZ THIZZZ CREEEPPEEHHHH" |
| 02:09 |
davidpace |
uhhhh |
| 02:09 |
davidpace |
wtf? |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
blame the painkillers. |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
it works for me :P |
| 02:09 |
davidpace |
uhhhhhh |
| 02:09 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, taken for what? |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
<== broken foot |
| 02:09 |
arm44 |
sure, sure |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
i can blame the painkillers despite the fact i take like nothing all day AND I'M FINE. |
| 02:10 |
arm44 |
did you break it playing football? |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: no. |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
You kidding, if i played football i wouldnt still be able to type |
| 02:10 |
arm44 |
what then, Ultimate Tennis? Arcade Volleyball? |
| 02:10 |
davidpace |
I have a question for you NekoGloop |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
davidpace: yes? |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
arm44: he's always trippin', that's how :D |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: was just gonna say that |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd :-) |
| 02:11 |
davidpace |
Why did you post the link for that "scary" song about jealous girls burning in fire? |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
davidpace: go on. |
| 02:11 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, i find it scary that your doctors prescribe Oxycodin. Who doesn't get hooked up on heroin? |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
davidpace: nonono |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
arm44: actually doctors here are reluctant to do so usually. |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
the "jealous one" is the one singing. |
| 02:11 |
davidpace |
Yes, and she was burning! |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 02:11 |
davidpace |
Wait... |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
arm44: more commonly vicodin, which ain't too different |
| 02:12 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, still (and depending on a doctor) |
| 02:12 |
davidpace |
I have to go for a few mins brb |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: I'm allergic to vicodin. I have moltrin. |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
which is like doing nothing, because I'm not taking it |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
most of that shit doesn't work on me anyway |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
just give me WEED. |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
because I dont have to take it |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
XD |
| 02:13 |
* VanessaE |
<- bad arthritis :( |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
Anyone else getting errors on 0.4.4? |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
18:24:30: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "basic_string::_S_create" |
| 02:13 |
* NekoGloop |
<- allergic to cardboard. yeah. |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
Also just plain ol' segfault |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: the only errors I commonly see are attachment errors, but nothing in the lots |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
logs* |
| 02:13 |
arm44 |
marktraceur, teleporters crash mt1.gameboom.net |
| 02:13 |
arm44 |
or is that 0.4.3? |
| 02:14 |
marktraceur |
arm44: This server doesn't have teleporters, and my client's crashing, not the server |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
I have like no antiallergins in my body whatsoever... |
| 02:14 |
arm44 |
marktraceur, weird |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
or whatever the things that make you not have an allergy to something are. |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
idk |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
dont ask me. |
| 02:14 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, who else then? |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: that's what we call the Loratadine abe takes for his cat allergy (yes.) |
| 02:15 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: wikipedia |
| 02:15 |
arm44 |
sounds like you should be the expert |
| 02:15 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: Seems legit |
| 02:15 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, are you forcing your cat-alergic husband to live with a cat? |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: it sucks :-/ |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
arm44: actually he's forcing himself - because we both love our kitties :-) |
| 02:16 |
arm44 |
if you say so... |
| 02:16 |
arm44 |
then again, i wouldn't live with them anyway |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
why? |
| 02:16 |
arm44 |
they're bastards, and i don't find it cute |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
ours are just nutz but they're both very loving |
| 02:17 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: OI! |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
especially Jeannie. she just can't get enough attention :-) |
| 02:17 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, oi? |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
Cookie is a holy terror :-) |
| 02:17 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: DIE |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
(and is in her aloof phase now) |
| 02:17 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, how about your cats die? |
| 02:17 |
* NekoGloop |
dies |
| 02:17 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, i really don't care, sorry |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
arm44: jeez why so much hate? |
| 02:18 |
NekoGloop |
Neko = Cat |
| 02:18 |
arm44 |
i <opposite of care> actually |
| 02:18 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, apart from disliking bastards, i'm also alergic to child-hating catlovers |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
"child-hating cat lovers"? huh? |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
o.O |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
... wat |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: Neko = Cat. So shove your complaints over to #minecraft. pls |
| 02:19 |
arm44 |
people who seem to like animals (cats in particular, because they're bastards, so it's even more bewildering) more than people |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
ok, lemme trim that down...."child-hating"? |
| 02:20 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, yes, they then proceed to be annoyed by children being children all the while considering animals their children |
| 02:21 |
arm44 |
it's disgusting and unnatural |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
I dunno what you're on about...there'no child hate here. |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
there's |
| 02:21 |
arm44 |
not to flaunt that word around |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: cornernote, leave us now |
| 02:21 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, when i see a young couple walking a dog, i am appalled |
| 02:21 |
arm44 |
*only a dog |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
arm44: ok, so a couple like Abe and I who can neither have children at all nor can legally adopt shall be forced to have no such companions? |
| 02:22 |
arm44 |
basically, people replace children with animals, and it's repulsive. but i said that already |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
(not to mention the financial outlay which we are incapable of supplying) |
| 02:22 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, why aren't you legally able to adopt? |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: leave. now. |
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| 02:23 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, shut up. now. |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
arm44: because I'm sterile. |
| 02:23 |
NakedFury |
im back again! |
| 02:23 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: go to #peoplelovinganimalhaters |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
wb NakedFury |
| 02:23 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: or shut up |
| 02:23 |
NakedFury |
thank you. was watching batman trilogy |
| 02:24 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, how does that prevent you from adopting? |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
arm44: that's the not-having children part, sorry. |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
the not-adopting part is too personal and complicated for discussion here. |
| 02:24 |
arm44 |
ok |
| 02:25 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, anyway, i obviously don't mind you keeping animals, and hope you enjoy them. |
| 02:25 |
arm44 |
it's the people who put them before people who i'm talking about. |
| 02:25 |
arm44 |
*was. will cease |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
arm44: we enjoy their company and their antics and they clearly enjoy our company... but wee the problem is in your primary statement: |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
"when i see a young couple walking [only] a dog, i am appalled" |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
and yet, how are you to know what their capabilities are in regards to rearing children (assuming they can have/adopt any) |
| 02:26 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, because i'm a capabilitist, and assume they're capable :-) |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
better to assume the opposite in this case. |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
if a couple adopts a pet first, it's probably because they don't believe they can handle children |
| 02:27 |
arm44 |
i'm sorry, but i'm sure the majority is capable |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
depends on where you are. |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
do you have kids? |
| 02:27 |
arm44 |
nope |
| 02:27 |
arm44 |
not married |
| 02:28 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, actually, i guess they could be a boyfriend and a girlfriend, but i got an impression they were married. maybe just jumped to conclusions |
| 02:28 |
arm44 |
*could've been |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
then you have NO idea just how expensive it is. |
| 02:28 |
arm44 |
i have ciblings though |
| 02:28 |
arm44 |
*siblings |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
who have children of their own? |
| 02:29 |
arm44 |
and we were poor |
| 02:29 |
arm44 |
so i do know |
| 02:29 |
arm44 |
how it can still work out |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
did you know that on average, a child costs upwards of $200 grand a MONTH? |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
er, year |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
damn you fingers. |
| 02:29 |
arm44 |
heh |
| 02:30 |
NekoGloop |
tiiiiime to listen to a different song as well |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: it's worse than that - closer to 1.5 million over 18 years if you want the child to grow up with the full opportunities, education, etc. that they deserve. At least in the US. |
| 02:30 |
arm44 |
we lived off of... 200 a month |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
arm44: where? |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
Haiti? |
| 02:31 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, europe. |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
europe. |
| 02:31 |
arm44 |
europe. |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
different economy, different opportunities. |
| 02:31 |
arm44 |
more opportunities in US |
| 02:31 |
NekoGloop |
lolnope |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
average pay there at the time was probably somewhere in the $500 US/mo range if I guess right. |
| 02:31 |
arm44 |
yep |
| 02:32 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, i highly doubt that |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
here? median income is a bit over $2000/mo and you can't live on that in some states. |
| 02:32 |
arm44 |
this was poor even for us |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
wait, make that $4000-odd |
| 02:32 |
arm44 |
the average was 6 times that |
| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
(and you *still* can't live in some places on that :-) ) |
| 02:32 |
arm44 |
well, from what i gathered |
| 02:32 |
arm44 |
3 times * 2 parents working |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
2 parents, 1 kid |
| 02:33 |
arm44 |
and there's 5 of us, so other families are smaller |
| 02:33 |
VanessaE |
Between Abe and I, we make a little under $2000/mo, and we had to settle in a fairly cheap area to be able to make ends meet. Children? Never gonna happen even if the physiological problems didn't exist. |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
we ~barely~ live on what we make |
| 02:33 |
arm44 |
plus we had no uncles/aunts or much relatives who could've helped us out. |
| 02:34 |
arm44 |
basically, trust me, in the poverty game, we win |
| 02:34 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: seriously, go away. |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
arm44: try supporting two people on US $940 a month in FLORIDA. |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: minetest channel. minetest is the topic. talk about MINETEST. |
| 02:35 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly |
| 02:35 |
arm44 |
or "something honest" |
| 02:35 |
VanessaE |
ahem. |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
what was that>? |
| 02:35 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly |
| 02:35 |
arm44 |
or "something honest" |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
i dont believe i heard you, what was that? |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
"I wanna be banned"? |
| 02:36 |
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arm44 was kicked by VanessaE: arm44 |
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| 02:36 |
arm44 |
so, when does NekoGloop get kicked? |
| 02:36 |
VanessaE |
now are you gonna cut out the virtual dick waving or do I need to make that a little more permanent? |
| 02:36 |
arm44 |
there must be some rules i'm not aware of |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: yeah, I'm not assaulting anyone |
| 02:37 |
arm44 |
NekoGloop, who did I insult? |
| 02:37 |
arm44 |
VanessaE, ask Bad_Command if I respond well to threats |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: everyone with a pet and no child |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
arm44: and every catlover. |
| 02:37 |
arm44 |
arm44, not at all |
| 02:37 |
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arm44 was kicked by VanessaE: arm44 |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
not that that will hold for long because of his bouncer. |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
did he just talk to himself? |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZiSpmgsXo :3 |
| 02:38 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: UTAU??????Bad Apple!!??????Kasane Teto - YouTube |
| 02:39 |
NekoGloop |
lol. bot cant understand japanese. |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 02:40 |
NekoGloop |
give it some lessons, iqual! |
| 02:40 |
NakedFury |
I still dont understand why people bring their egos and pride and macho atitude to the internet chat |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
so instead of having to parse 40 or so characters, you want it to parse some 2000 or so? :-) |
| 02:40 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
| 02:40 |
NekoGloop |
japanese doesnt have -that- many |
| 02:41 |
NekoGloop |
closer to 1600~ |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
just kidding :-) |
| 02:41 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: because they are dickheads? |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
well if you do japanese then do russian, french, russian, etc |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
go all the way |
| 02:41 |
NekoGloop |
well japanese for the channel that gets more japanese links :> |
| 02:41 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlKwFPvwQs |
| 02:41 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ?????/Namine Ritsu] Bad Apple!!?UTAU???? - YouTube |
| 02:41 |
NekoGloop |
like that one./ |
| 02:42 |
NekoGloop |
bah. not bad enough my foot is clumsy, now my fingers too? |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
i hate the new youtube layout. :< |
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| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
aaaaand i'm rambling again with noone listening. |
| 02:46 |
aluminum-foil-ta |
hi people! |
| 02:46 |
NekoGloop |
wb |
| 02:47 |
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* VanessaE |
restores OldCoder from the backup. |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: don't feel bad, I have more bad days than good ones anymore where typing is concerned. |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 02:49 |
Muadtralk |
wow thats alot of question marks |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
there's a reason my responses are getting slow lately. I have to spend about half my time correcting typos and/or stopping to think about which letter to hit. |
| 02:50 |
Muadtralk |
yes nekogloop i do believe this bot should be prepared for these links |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: make it transliterate them if possible. |
| 02:50 |
BackupCoder |
Hi |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
at least we would be able to get some vague idea of what it says then ;-) |
| 02:50 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Heh |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
I never said it was permanent... |
| 02:51 |
NakedFury |
ohhh we got more of the Coder family |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please review the past hour of channel activity. Do you agree with my action in this regard? |
| 02:51 |
TANKERx64 |
JELLO |
| 02:52 |
NekoGloop |
TANKERx64: PIE |
| 02:52 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, reviewing |
| 02:52 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, He is a test |
| 02:52 |
NakedFury |
ahh thought it was a friend or family member |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
TANKERx64: Pi? http://dollarstoremom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pi-pie.jpg |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 02:53 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
saw that on abe's facebook page earlier today :-) |
| 02:53 |
TANKERx64 |
ohgosh |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
cutest version of the motif I've seen in a while |
| 02:54 |
Muadtralk |
ack |
| 02:54 |
Muadtralk |
im slipping |
| 02:54 |
Muadtralk |
mixed up the 6 and 2 |
| 02:55 |
Muadtralk |
3.1415962 |
| 02:55 |
Muadtralk |
dang it |
| 02:55 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
| 02:55 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, om |
| 02:55 |
VanessaE |
take your time. |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdPXL1cJq8 |
| 02:56 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ??7?MMD????Bad Apple!! feat.Miku Hatsune & Kasane Teto - YouTube |
| 02:56 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Did NekoGloop ask him to stop speaking to him? Technically NekoGloop could /ignore but a kick is equally justified. Is this correct under community standards? NekoGloop could /ignore but other person can be warned instead. So kick was a warn instead of an /ignore. Does this cover it? |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
I cant /ignore |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
remember? doesnt work thru webchat |
| 02:57 |
OldCoder |
Oh? Why not? Then kick is justified. |
| 02:57 |
OldCoder |
If this is explained |
| 02:57 |
OldCoder |
If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
[21:58] == IGNORE Unknown command |
| 02:57 |
OldCoder |
That is my suggestion for a rule |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
Recommend /ignore but... |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
Does this make sense? |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
I never use /ignore if I can avoid it, lest I miss something that may later be important |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
We are referring to the users |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
and to recent events in particular |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
That is my position |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
Ban was not to be permanent |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
It was a warning and a request |
| 02:58 |
OldCoder |
If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
in this case my justification for the ban was that kicking him was followed up immediately by "I don't respond well to threats". |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
State that |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
THAT is what got him banned. |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
When in returns |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
That is subjective and up to the op |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
oh and what he says in private? "I will not submit" and similar. |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
Too bad |
| 02:59 |
* OldCoder |
sighs again |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
If he comes back tell him he can talk to me if he wishes |
| 03:00 |
BackupCoder |
or meM |
| 03:00 |
* VanessaE |
wonders who BackupCoder is.. |
| 03:01 |
BackupCoder |
:-) |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Me but I have not registered the nick |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Will need to register a second one |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
ok, I figured. |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
That is for when the 1st connection is down |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Not to be guaranteed until a new registered nick is in place |
| 03:05 |
TANKERx64 |
s1336 t15ht m0t3®6uc! |
| 03:06 |
NekoGloop |
please, this isnt a java decoder |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
there. "computer" mod added to my server and put into use right away :-) |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 |
| 03:23 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
shaddup bot |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
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| 03:23 |
Aqua_ |
hello |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
hi Aqua_ |
| 03:24 |
Aqua_ |
is ur server online? |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 03:25 |
Aqua_ |
port again? |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
30000 |
| 03:25 |
Aqua_ |
i mean adress |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
24.181.193.82 |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
write it down :-) |
| 03:26 |
Aqua_ |
yep got it in notepad |
| 03:26 |
Aqua_ |
how can u get a skin? |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
just go search for one on some Minecraft skins websites then give me the address to the skin you wanna use |
| 03:27 |
Aqua_ |
mmm can u creeate ur own? |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
I'll install it (requires server restart) |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
sure, that's possible |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
I've never done it though but any image editor can do it, or use an online minecraft skin editor. |
| 03:29 |
Aqua_ |
ok thanks |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
no prob |
| 03:30 |
Aqua_ |
is a minetest player the same as minecraft? |
| 03:30 |
Aqua_ |
i mean the size |
| 03:31 |
Aqua_ |
and shape |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
yeah, same size and shape |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
they use minecraft skins directly. |
| 03:32 |
Aqua_ |
http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/588304/perry/ |
| 03:32 |
moltenbot |
Aqua_'s link: perry | Minecraft Skin |
| 03:32 |
Aqua_ |
is this possible? |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 03:32 |
Aqua_ |
why? |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
it needs standard skins fo rnow |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
we don't have a model for that little guy :-) |
| 03:33 |
Aqua_ |
http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/590896/slender/ |
| 03:33 |
moltenbot |
Aqua_'s link: Slender | Minecraft Skin |
| 03:33 |
Aqua_ |
so this isnt? |
| 03:33 |
Aqua_ |
posible as well |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
not yet |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
use standard player models |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
(besides, someone else already uses slenderman, shaped as a standard player) |
| 03:34 |
Aqua_ |
http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612862/zombie-herobrine-redone/ |
| 03:34 |
moltenbot |
Aqua_'s link: Zombie Herobrine redone | Minecraft Skin |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
oy |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
well that'll work if you really want it |
| 03:34 |
Aqua_ |
http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612867/zombie-pigman/ |
| 03:34 |
moltenbot |
Aqua_'s link: Zombie Pigman | Minecraft Skin |
| 03:34 |
Aqua_ |
ok cya later |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
the zombie pigman will work too |
| 03:44 |
NakedFury |
is the player character model going to remain the way it is or will it be changed to a more unique minetest original way some time soon? |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
I believe the intent is, eventually, to allow for other models. |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
I mean, that's possible now with a mod, but there's no "standard" yet. |
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| 03:45 |
NakedFury |
well, will the standard/default model be a minecraft model or eventually something else? |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
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Sevein |
hi o/ |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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OldCoder |
Sevein, Hello! |
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khonkhortisan |
What would it take to move the settings in-game? |
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| 05:36 |
devlab |
Hi, can Lava burn the items? |
| 05:36 |
khonkhortisan |
lava causes fire on wood-based items |
| 05:37 |
devlab |
and for not wood-based? |
| 05:38 |
khonkhortisan |
if it's not wood-based, it won't burn even in the presence of fire. |
| 05:38 |
devlab |
unless a modification is present? |
| 05:38 |
khonkhortisan |
unless groups={flammable=1} or something like that |
| 05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
you could make rock burn just by changing its groups |
| 06:34 |
devlab |
what do i do with tin? (moreores mod) |
| 06:37 |
khonkhortisan |
make bronze with it |
| 06:38 |
khonkhortisan |
you end up with lots of extra copper ingots, and can't make blocks from it, or bronze |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
make bronze, or use it in the process of making a homedecor fridge |
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Aqua_ |
Hello |
| 06:53 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 06:54 |
Aqua_ |
how come i keep getting _ |
| 06:54 |
Aqua_ |
in my name |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
because someone else on this network probably uses Aqua also |
| 06:56 |
Aqua_ |
? thats me] |
| 06:56 |
khonkhortisan |
Are you registered with freenode? |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
[12-09 01:57] * [Aqua] (~Aqua74.143.225.146): Aqua |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
[12-09 01:57] * [Aqua_] (65afbf97gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.175.191.151): 101.175.191.151 - http://webchat.freenode.net |
| 06:56 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
see? |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
two different addresses. |
| 06:57 |
Aqua_ |
thats weird |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
if they're both you, find the other one and shut it down. |
| 06:57 |
khonkhortisan |
netkillall Aqua |
| 06:57 |
Aqua_ |
few days ago i could use Aqua |
| 06:57 |
khonkhortisan |
no one can steal my username, I have a password on it |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
ditto |
| 06:58 |
VanessaE |
mine's registered with an impossible-to-guess password. |
| 06:58 |
Aqua_ |
so basically someones using my name? |
| 06:58 |
VanessaE |
Aqua_: it isn't "your" name if you didn't register it with Nickserv. |
| 06:58 |
khonkhortisan |
/msg Nickserv identify <password> |
| 06:59 |
khonkhortisan |
oops I mean |
| 06:59 |
khonkhortisan |
/msg Nickserv identify <password> |
| 06:59 |
VanessaE |
On IRC, nicknames are not "managed" by default, except via Nickserv, and for that you need to explicitly ask it to register you and you have to log in with it |
| 06:59 |
Aqua_ |
i dont get why theres another Aqua? |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
because you didn't register your nick, so someone else somewhere signed on with the same one, |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
this is the Freenode network. There are thousands of channels and hundreds of thousands of users. |
| 07:00 |
VanessaE |
someone else was bound to pick "Aqua" eventually. |
| 07:01 |
Aqua_ |
i see |
| 07:01 |
Aqua_ |
ill get a new nickname |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
this is not specific to Minetest btw |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
We're just one channel out of thousands. :-) |
| 07:02 |
Aqua_ |
how come u have got @ in front of ur name? |
| 07:02 |
khonkhortisan |
because you're not using xchat |
| 07:03 |
VanessaE |
because I have channel operator status right now. |
| 07:03 |
* VanessaE |
stands down. |
| 07:03 |
khonkhortisan |
I show a green dot for you |
| 07:03 |
Aqua_ |
So will i have to get a new name? |
| 07:03 |
khonkhortisan |
You could continue existing in your current perdicament |
| 07:04 |
VanessaE |
Aqua_: if you want to be unique, probably. Otherwise stick with the _ for now. |
| 07:04 |
Aqua_ |
:( |
| 07:05 |
VanessaE |
sowwy :( |
| 07:05 |
Aqua_ |
can u only have a-z and 1-9 |
| 07:05 |
Aqua_ |
0-9 |
| 07:05 |
VanessaE |
a-z, 0-9, and some symbols |
| 07:05 |
VanessaE |
must start with a letter |
| 07:06 |
Aqua_ |
OK |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
I think {}[]() \ _ are allowed |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
I forget what else |
| 07:06 |
khonkhortisan |
You can have a-z, 0-F |
| 07:07 |
Aqua_ |
is - allowed? |
| 07:07 |
Aqua_ |
so i cant get Aqua back? |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
probably not |
| 07:08 |
VanessaE |
a-z A-Z 0-9 _ - \ [ ] { } ^ ` | |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
those are the allowed chars |
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| 07:09 |
Aqua_ |
guess thats my new nickname |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
now go register it |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
/msg nickserv help register |
| 07:11 |
Aqua_ |
how? |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
that command ^^^^ |
| 07:11 |
Aqua_ |
now wat |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
nickserv will answer with help about how to register. |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
follow the instructions it gives. |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
if you want your nick to stick and be safe, you probably need to get off the web chat and get a regular IRC client. |
| 07:12 |
VanessaE |
Xchat can, for example, automatically sign in with nickserv when you start it |
| 07:12 |
VanessaE |
other clients probably also. |
| 07:12 |
Aqua_ |
dinner brb |
| 07:22 |
ShiftyCake |
back\ |
| 07:22 |
ShiftyCake |
back |
| 07:23 |
ShiftyCake |
[18:31] -NickServ- ShiftyCake has now been verified. [18:31] -NickServ- Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited. |
| 07:23 |
ShiftyCake |
now wat? |
| 07:23 |
ShiftyCake |
What does it do? |
| 07:24 |
ShiftyCake |
You there |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE |
I'm here, sorry |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE |
now, write your password down |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE |
next time you sign in, /msg nickserv identify MYPASSWORD |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE |
(replace MYPASSWORD with whatever you used) |
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| 07:25 |
ShiftyCake |
What is my password? |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE |
you had to have made one up in order to register. |
| 07:26 |
ShiftyCake |
no i didnt |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
/msg nickserv REGISTER <password> <email-address> |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
you had to have given it a password. |
| 07:27 |
ShiftyCake |
ooops how do i change it |
| 07:27 |
ShiftyCake |
i made it the example |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
/msg nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
and, |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
/msg nickserv set enforce on |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
that'll cause nickserv to force someone off of your nick if they're using it. |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
anyway, time for me to get to bed. |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
night all,. |
| 07:35 |
ShiftyCake |
cya |
| 07:35 |
ShiftyCake |
thanks for everything |
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| 07:49 |
devlab |
Um How can i make bronze? |
| 07:50 |
devlab |
Smelt the tin and copper? |
| 07:51 |
Aqua_ |
yes |
| 07:51 |
Aqua_ |
then craft togerther |
| 07:53 |
devlab |
I'm converting them ores into ingots |
| 07:53 |
Aqua_ |
cool |
| 07:55 |
Aqua_ |
hi |
| 07:55 |
devlab |
Smelting an iron lump gives you steel ingots? |
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OldCoder |
U.S. worlds going down for changes |
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| 08:40 |
markveidemanis |
i have a texture challenge |
| 08:41 |
markveidemanis |
plz make a turret like the one from portal 2 in 16x16 |
| 08:42 |
markveidemanis |
HI |
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| 09:12 |
devlab |
hey, what's the logic behind the furnace? |
| 09:13 |
Calinou |
there is none, minecraft also has a furnace, both furnaces are pretty similar |
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| 09:14 |
devlab |
and by that i mean how may units of fuel per 11 units of items |
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| 09:21 |
Calinou |
devlab: depends what fuel you want to use |
| 09:21 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Furnace |
| 09:21 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: Furnace - Minetest Wiki |
| 09:21 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting |
| 09:21 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki |
| 09:21 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip |
| 09:22 |
RealBadAngel |
almost done version of UI, if some1 wants to test it |
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emerge-plus |
For how long? |
| 09:30 |
moltenbot |
john_minetest's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki |
| 09:31 |
markveidemanis |
www.google.co.uk |
| 09:31 |
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| 09:31 |
ShiftyCake |
Hello |
| 09:31 |
ShiftyCake |
Anyone there? |
| 09:32 |
ShiftyCake |
Im Aqua |
| 09:32 |
markveidemanis |
hi |
| 09:33 |
ShiftyCake |
do u play on gameboom? |
| 09:36 |
emerge-plus |
BTW, I found strange thing while trying to make better textures for animals mod: http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png |
| 09:36 |
Calinou |
seems legit |
| 09:36 |
emerge-plus |
Part of jeans is glued to the arm. |
| 09:37 |
ShiftyCake |
lol |
| 09:37 |
emerge-plus |
Very, very suspicious vombie :3 |
| 09:39 |
ShiftyCake |
if u wanted to do ur own skin how many pixels will they have to be |
| 09:39 |
emerge-plus |
Also, here more screenshots: |
| 09:39 |
emerge-plus |
http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_0de16fe62a.png |
| 09:39 |
emerge-plus |
http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png |
| 09:39 |
emerge-plus |
http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_3c2c9e3350.png |
| 09:39 |
emerge-plus |
http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_16649237fc.png |
| 09:44 |
emerge-plus |
ShiftyCake, I just drowned my upon the default textures. |
| 09:45 |
ShiftyCake |
where would i put my textures for player |
| 09:46 |
ShiftyCake |
where? |
| 09:46 |
ShiftyCake |
i got a skin where do i put it? |
| 09:48 |
emerge-plus |
Why would you need them in singleplayer? |
| 09:49 |
emerge-plus |
There only one skin for all player at the moment. |
| 09:50 |
ShiftyCake |
so i can look at myself |
| 09:51 |
emerge-plus |
:3 |
| 09:52 |
ShiftyCake |
i go on to my own server open to minetest |
| 09:52 |
ShiftyCake |
two minetest* |
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| 09:53 |
ShiftyCake |
127.0.0.1 |
| 09:53 |
emerge-plus |
What OS are you using? |
| 09:53 |
ShiftyCake |
wiindows xp |
| 09:54 |
ShiftyCake |
ill link u a picture |
| 09:56 |
ShiftyCake |
http://i.imgur.com/ww0f2.png |
| 09:56 |
ShiftyCake |
there ya go |
| 09:56 |
ShiftyCake |
thats my skin |
| 09:57 |
emerge-plus |
Fuu, zombie from minecr*ft... |
| 09:57 |
ShiftyCake |
not really its slighty rotten |
| 09:58 |
markveidemanis_ |
there is a lying animation for the player, can someone make a /lay command, to go along with /sit |
| 09:58 |
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| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
my computer is now making updates |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, yesterday, my computer went to a black screen saying somethings with battery or energy or something |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
but the mouse were there |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
just 2 lines appearing |
| 09:59 |
ShiftyCake |
what os? |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
Ubuntu (xubuntu version) 12.04.1 LST |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
Too laggy for me |
| 09:59 |
KikaRz |
i cant make it stable. |
| 10:00 |
ShiftyCake |
heres another of me slaying zombies |
| 10:00 |
ShiftyCake |
http://i.imgur.com/NZIC7.png |
| 10:00 |
KikaRz |
want to try again minetest |
| 10:00 |
KikaRz |
in this pc (linux) |
| 10:00 |
KikaRz |
*-* |
| 10:00 |
emerge-plus |
KikaRz, lol, I think you can't cause Ubuntu is based on unstable debian. |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
emerge-plus: quit trolling.. |
| 10:01 |
KikaRz |
if isnt laggy, ill make minetest to be played in linux. |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
buntus are much more stable than debian sid |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
or even testing |
| 10:01 |
KikaRz |
if is laggy, ill go back to windows |
| 10:01 |
KikaRz |
well, but it lags 2 in 2 minutes |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: old GPUs are often slower with opengl than directx |
| 10:01 |
KikaRz |
i cant move the mouse, using numlock , caps lock or scroll lock |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, yesterday i tried minetest, and it was faster than directx |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
(in linux) |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
directx tested in windows |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
opengl tested in linux |
| 10:02 |
Calinou |
no direct3d on linux unless you run the windows binary with wine :P |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
anyways... i prefer debian. |
| 10:02 |
Calinou |
and this doesn't work anymore since a few versions iirc |
| 10:02 |
KikaRz |
Wine sucks |
| 10:02 |
Calinou |
debian is unusable |
| 10:02 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 10:03 |
KikaRz |
my ass sucks. |
| 10:03 |
KikaRz |
;c |
| 10:03 |
KikaRz |
kidding. |
| 10:03 |
emerge-plus |
Calinou, sorry |
| 10:04 |
emerge-plus |
But, why not use debian stable if you need stability? |
| 10:04 |
KikaRz |
No CD/DVD device. |
| 10:04 |
KikaRz |
its broken |
| 10:04 |
KikaRz |
and pen drive installation? sucks |
| 10:05 |
emerge-plus |
Hm, install using debootstrap |
| 10:06 |
emerge-plus |
And another PC. |
| 10:06 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 10:06 |
KikaRz |
no thanks |
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| 10:06 |
KikaRz |
i just have 2 pcs |
| 10:06 |
KikaRz |
this and another OLDER than this |
| 10:07 |
Calinou |
emerge-plus: debian stable's software is way too old to be usable |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
i got here |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
a cd of debian |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
wait, going to tell you the version |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
6.0.1a |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
1a or la |
| 10:07 |
KikaRz |
netinst |
| 10:08 |
markveidemanis_ |
KikaRz |
| 10:08 |
markveidemanis_ |
all set up? |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
what markveidemanis_? |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
what set up? |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
no. |
| 10:08 |
markveidemanis_ |
want to see sitting animation on my server? |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
my pc crashed... giving errors in compiling |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
etc |
| 10:08 |
Calinou |
markveidemanis_: ip? |
| 10:08 |
markveidemanis_ |
you can sit |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
markveidemanis_, already seen |
| 10:08 |
KikaRz |
in a mod |
| 10:09 |
ShiftyCake |
hey calinou u never granted me privs to ur server |
| 10:09 |
markveidemanis_ |
calinou: my name> whois |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
u > you |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
ur > your |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
also, i'm not really going to my server anymore... noone goes to it |
| 10:09 |
Calinou |
we have way too many servers |
| 10:09 |
KikaRz |
Calinou |
| 10:09 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 10:09 |
KikaRz |
i want to play on your |
| 10:09 |
KikaRz |
but... depends on what mods it have |
| 10:09 |
OldCoder |
Can there be too many? |
| 10:10 |
OldCoder |
Like too many potato chips |
| 10:10 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
| 10:10 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 10:10 |
ShiftyCake |
i played it once |
| 10:10 |
ShiftyCake |
its fast\ |
| 10:10 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder is now AWAY. |
| 10:10 |
markveidemanis_ |
who wants to play on my server with mauvebrick's mobpack |
| 10:10 |
Calinou |
connecting.. |
| 10:10 |
ShiftyCake |
ill try |
| 10:10 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: i think you should shut down my server, maybe put the world for download |
| 10:10 |
KikaRz |
i dont, markveidemanis_ |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
change your name to markveidemanis |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
without _ |
| 10:11 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, Zzz |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
thats beter |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
*better |
| 10:11 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, it's a good world why shut it down? But if you want the map made available sure I will do that later today |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
Aperture science... |
| 10:11 |
ShiftyCake |
infinityprojects and yours both shut down. thats great |
| 10:11 |
KikaRz |
We do the most, because we can |
| 10:12 |
KikaRz |
for the god of all of us |
| 10:12 |
KikaRz |
except once you're dead. |
| 10:12 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 10:12 |
KikaRz |
Listening : Still Alive - Portal 1 |
| 10:12 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: noone goes to it, occasional players wanting to go to it just ragequit because noone plays the game |
| 10:12 |
Calinou |
fragmentation is bad |
| 10:12 |
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| 10:12 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:12 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back PilzAdam. |
| 10:12 |
ShiftyCake |
hi |
| 10:12 |
Calinou |
ShiftyCake: i'm not doing that because of you |
| 10:12 |
Calinou |
we all know you're a landmine-like griefer :P |
| 10:13 |
ShiftyCake |
? |
| 10:13 |
ShiftyCake |
Im not |
| 10:13 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, suggestions are welcome. I have often refused to give people worlds just because they want one. Your world is large and well established. It stays. Some special worlds will also stay as museums. |
| 10:13 |
OldCoder |
Would you take away Skyblock? Or the novel world of Harbor? |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
huh? |
| 10:13 |
KikaRz |
Calinou. |
| 10:13 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, huh what. The above is perfectly clear. |
| 10:13 |
ShiftyCake |
How do u change ur nick? |
| 10:14 |
KikaRz |
Your server got Technic? |
| 10:14 |
* OldCoder |
is resting now |
| 10:14 |
KikaRz |
Your server got Mesecons? |
| 10:14 |
* OldCoder |
will try to update to 0.4.4 soon |
| 10:14 |
ShiftyCake |
How do u change ur nick? |
| 10:14 |
KikaRz |
ShiftyCake , /nick |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
ShiftyCake, by this: |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
/nick ChocolateCake |
| 10:14 |
ShiftyCake |
ok thx |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
with no space at the start |
| 10:14 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
updating stupid linux that is laggy to me. |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
If it stills laggy, ill rage quit |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
(not linux in general) |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
just ubuntu |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
i've tried Debian Before... |
| 10:15 |
KikaRz |
GOOD Feedback |
| 10:16 |
KikaRz |
Aqua_ ! |
| 10:16 |
KikaRz |
*o* |
| 10:16 |
Aqua_ |
Well doesnt let me do Aqua |
| 10:16 |
Aqua_ |
VanessaE explained that to me earliear |
| 10:16 |
KikaRz |
you registered? |
| 10:17 |
KikaRz |
someone got your nick: Aqua |
| 10:17 |
Aqua_ |
i know |
| 10:17 |
KikaRz |
in another channel |
| 10:17 |
Aqua_ |
i know |
| 10:17 |
Aqua_ |
few days ago it worked |
| 10:17 |
Aqua_ |
my nick's ShiftyCake now |
| 10:17 |
KikaRz |
But, if you want to hack it... |
| 10:18 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] (~Aqua74.143.225.146): Aqua |
| 10:18 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU |
| 10:18 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec 7 09:15:54 |
| 10:18 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua |
| 10:18 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS. |
| 10:18 |
ShiftyCake |
not me |
| 10:18 |
markveidemanis |
Calinou |
| 10:18 |
markveidemanis |
i'm testing a 1oomb map, wanna join |
| 10:19 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: well keep it as a museum then. |
| 10:20 |
KikaRz |
his IP is there. |
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| 10:21 |
KikaRz |
SwiftCake, got a nick for you... AquaCake |
| 10:21 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 10:21 |
KikaRz |
i crashed him without intentions. |
| 10:21 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back Zeg9. |
| 10:21 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 10:21 |
devlab |
how many uses for Titanium (titanium mod), lol |
| 10:22 |
KikaRz |
devlab, you're... |
| 10:22 |
devlab |
what? |
| 10:22 |
KikaRz |
a rat. |
| 10:22 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 10:22 |
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| 10:22 |
devlab |
what the? |
| 10:22 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Back RealBadAngel! |
| 10:23 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 10:23 |
KikaRz |
!define rat |
| 10:23 |
moltenbot |
http://ddg.dg: rat definition: any of numerous rodents ('''Rattus''' and related genera) differing from the related mice especially by considerably larger size. |
| 10:23 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 10:23 |
KikaRz |
Hi RealBadAngel! |
| 10:24 |
markveidemanis |
calinou koin again. |
| 10:24 |
markveidemanis |
#join |
| 10:24 |
* Calinou |
just finished installing chromium from upstream |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
version 25 ahoy! |
| 10:24 |
Calinou |
added menu entry, added it as default browser |
| 10:25 |
KikaRz |
.-. |
| 10:25 |
Calinou |
also added menu entry/terminal alias for minetest |
| 10:25 |
KikaRz |
why the updates are too long? |
| 10:25 |
markveidemanis |
use the supercomputer/transporter to move around |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
hate mega updates. |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: so you are upgrading? |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
im making updates |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
of the system |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
upgrading is going from eg. 12.04 to 12.10 |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
not upgrading |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
only if i was pressing the button: Upgrade Ubuntu |
| 10:26 |
Calinou |
k then |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
but im not |
| 10:26 |
KikaRz |
12.10 sucks |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: make sure you go to preferences > window manager > compositing > disablze |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
disable* |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
compositing will always slow down games, even 2D ones.. |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
(if you're using xfce) |
| 10:27 |
KikaRz |
Listening to: The Wanted - Glad you Came |
| 10:27 |
KikaRz |
where? |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
markveidemanis: takes a lot of time to download stuff |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: you can find preferences menu with alt+f1 :p |
| 10:27 |
markveidemanis |
yep, big modpack |
| 10:27 |
Calinou |
still at 0% media |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
well, yesterday |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
i was going to launch super tux |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
and it stayed in the black screen a bit of time |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
10 minutes later... (music of supertux) and screen! |
| 10:28 |
markveidemanis |
i forgot to remove the creative mode mod |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
hate that bug |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] (~Aqua74.143.225.146): Aqua |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec 7 09:15:54 |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua |
| 10:28 |
KikaRz |
* [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS. |
| 10:29 |
KikaRz |
NOT THAT |
| 10:29 |
devlab |
lol |
| 10:29 |
KikaRz |
Warning: No Support for locale: pt_PT.utf8 |
| 10:29 |
KikaRz |
calinou |
| 10:29 |
KikaRz |
alt + F1 dont works |
| 10:29 |
KikaRz |
going to try alt gr |
| 10:30 |
KikaRz |
nope |
| 10:30 |
markveidemanis |
Calinou |
| 10:30 |
markveidemanis |
try disabling preload item visuals |
| 10:30 |
KikaRz |
he already got |
| 10:30 |
Calinou |
I got "client disconnected" :P |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: there is no portuguest translation for minetest then :P |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: you're using xfce? |
| 10:31 |
KikaRz |
Listening: Katy Perry - Hot and Cold |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
then just click on top left button... |
| 10:31 |
KikaRz |
Yes Calinou |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
does the same thing as alt+f1 |
| 10:31 |
KikaRz |
and then? |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
system preferences > window manager tweaks > compositing |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
uncheck "enable compositing" |
| 10:31 |
markveidemanis |
get the modpack i have, run once and all media will be cached |
| 10:31 |
Calinou |
12% media now |
| 10:32 |
markveidemanis |
ok.... |
| 10:32 |
KikaRz |
Compositing is already disabled |
| 10:33 |
KikaRz |
guess window compositing makes my pc more speed |
| 10:33 |
Calinou |
lol no |
| 10:33 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 10:33 |
Calinou |
due to the way X is made, compositing slows down stuff a lot, even if you add no effects |
| 10:33 |
Calinou |
even on my computer stuff is much slower |
| 10:34 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 10:34 |
KikaRz |
but ok |
| 10:34 |
KikaRz |
no problem |
| 10:34 |
KikaRz |
disabled |
| 10:34 |
markveidemanis |
calinou: progress? |
| 10:34 |
Calinou |
38% |
| 10:34 |
KikaRz |
well, going to take breakfast |
| 10:36 |
* Calinou |
is installing eye of gnome |
| 10:36 |
Calinou |
ristretto is meh |
| 10:38 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
there is a youtube music downloader for linux? |
| 10:39 |
PilzAdam |
MiniTube |
| 10:39 |
* BREAKFAST-Kika |
is finishing updates... (Now, appears that HAAAAAALELUIA! HAAAAALELUIA... HALELUIA... |
| 10:39 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
XD |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
there is a good recorder for linux? |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
(not that one that speeds up my pc |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
not speeds up... it records faster (like, when we type, it types very faster) |
| 10:40 |
Calinou |
youtube-dl |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
in video |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
dl ? |
| 10:40 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get install youtube-dl |
| 10:40 |
Calinou |
to download youtube videos :P |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
thats not to record |
| 10:40 |
Calinou |
then youtube-dl <URL of video> |
| 10:40 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
ill use minitube. |
| 10:40 |
Calinou |
and to record, ffmpeg |
| 10:41 |
Calinou |
it's command line though |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
go to my brother's channel |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
and see |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
how it been recorded |
| 10:41 |
emerge-plus |
recordmydesktop? |
| 10:41 |
Calinou |
might try gtk-recordmydesktop, but it's nott really for games |
| 10:41 |
emerge-plus |
:p |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
youtube.com/joaoadriano3 |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
calinou |
| 10:41 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
search for: como criar uma casa da tribo |
| 10:42 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
that video was made in linux |
| 10:42 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
with a fucking stupid recorder |
| 10:42 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
in ubuntu 11.10 |
| 10:42 |
Calinou |
nope.avi |
| 10:43 |
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| 10:43 |
Zeg9 |
Hello! |
| 10:43 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 10:44 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
Zeg9, i said you Welcome Back, and you left. |
| 10:44 |
Calinou |
that's called a ragequit |
| 10:44 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
yea |
| 10:46 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
youtube.com/DiogoFuckingSena |
| 10:46 |
markveidemanis |
Zeg9 |
| 10:46 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
i guess is not diogo |
| 10:46 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
my cousin's friend |
| 10:46 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
try |
| 10:46 |
Zeg9 |
It isn't ragequit, I had to leave >.< |
| 10:46 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
there you will have a parody of one direction |
| 10:47 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
Zeg9 , so, why you're here? |
| 10:47 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
so, leave! |
| 10:47 |
markveidemanis |
calinou, i see the chat in the console:) |
| 10:47 |
Zeg9 |
... |
| 10:47 |
markveidemanis |
don't dig trees! |
| 10:47 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
markveidemanis, i know that |
| 10:48 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
dIg? |
| 10:48 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
o_o' |
| 10:48 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
dig = stone, dirt, minerals. |
| 10:49 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
cut = trees, leaves, wood. |
| 10:49 |
BREAKFAST-Kika |
or wools |
| 10:52 |
Calinou |
cut dirt/stone, dig trees and wood! |
| 10:53 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 10:55 |
KikaRz |
what you doing guys? |
| 10:55 |
Calinou |
http://ompldr.org/vZ21rdA/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2009122012%20-%2011:53:39.png |
| 10:55 |
Calinou |
this |
| 10:55 |
devlab |
what are the sounds of the mobs? |
| 10:56 |
KikaRz |
sry |
| 10:56 |
KikaRz |
cant see prints |
| 10:56 |
KikaRz |
updates installing |
| 10:58 |
Zeg9 |
Calinou, you are having great fun as I see |
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| 10:59 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Back Jordach. |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
Going to play supertux xD |
| 10:59 |
KikaRz |
stupid Zeg9. |
| 10:59 |
KikaRz |
that's my game, not yours |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
I knew it before you. |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
or? |
| 10:59 |
Zeg9 |
Nvm |
| 10:59 |
KikaRz |
i know it since 2001 |
| 10:59 |
KikaRz |
i was 10. |
| 11:00 |
KikaRz |
my brother was seeing linux infos |
| 11:00 |
KikaRz |
for that year |
| 11:00 |
KikaRz |
or nexts... |
| 11:00 |
KikaRz |
and then, discovered that project |
| 11:02 |
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| 11:02 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Back iqualfragile |
| 11:04 |
iqualfragile |
Good morning KikaRz |
| 11:05 |
KikaRz |
Thx |
| 11:05 |
KikaRz |
updating my computer since 9 AM (portugal) |
| 11:05 |
KikaRz |
2 hours . |
| 11:05 |
iqualfragile |
windows? |
| 11:05 |
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| 11:05 |
KikaRz |
linux. |
| 11:05 |
iqualfragile |
or just real crappy internet |
| 11:05 |
iqualfragile |
wich distro? |
| 11:05 |
KikaRz |
ubuntu 12.04.1 |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
Xubuntu |
| 11:06 |
iqualfragile |
hmm… switch to debian& get debdelta |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
I can't. |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
an d not my net |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
its my pc |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
iqualfragile, saying the same as yesterday: |
| 11:06 |
iqualfragile |
wow… thats evil |
| 11:06 |
KikaRz |
No CD/DVD device. |
| 11:06 |
iqualfragile |
no problem? |
| 11:07 |
KikaRz |
yes it has |
| 11:07 |
iqualfragile |
why? |
| 11:08 |
KikaRz |
NO CD/DVD DEVICE |
| 11:08 |
KikaRz |
its broken |
| 11:10 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: the first update takes a lot of time ;) that's normal |
| 11:11 |
KikaRz |
Registering myself in Zimagez |
| 11:11 |
KikaRz |
to get prints faster |
| 11:11 |
KikaRz |
for you |
| 11:11 |
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| 11:12 |
Zeg9 |
The "first update" is also from 12.04 to 12.10, isn't it ? |
| 11:12 |
Calinou |
he is not upgrading, he is staying with the LTS |
| 11:12 |
Zeg9 |
I hope |
| 11:12 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 11:12 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, remembering, IM A GIRL |
| 11:13 |
KikaRz |
NOT A BOY |
| 11:13 |
* Calinou |
should use "they" more often |
| 11:13 |
Matsetes |
Hi guys |
| 11:13 |
Zeg9 |
Hello |
| 11:13 |
devlab |
sup? |
| 11:13 |
KikaRz |
Hi Matsetes, welcome back. |
| 11:14 |
Matsetes |
KikaRz: Thx!! |
| 11:14 |
Matsetes |
I'm updating minetest, which are the news? |
| 11:15 |
KikaRz |
gmail is getting worst |
| 11:15 |
KikaRz |
nothing matsetes |
| 11:15 |
KikaRz |
otherwise that you're updating to 0.4.4 |
| 11:15 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net/news |
| 11:15 |
Zeg9 |
google* is getting worse |
| 11:16 |
Zeg9 |
Brb, lunch :) |
| 11:16 |
KikaRz |
not google |
| 11:16 |
KikaRz |
but yes gmail |
| 11:17 |
Matsetes |
KikaRz: 404 page not found =S |
| 11:18 |
KikaRz |
now, i can upgrade to 12.10 |
| 11:18 |
KikaRz |
but i wont. |
| 11:19 |
KikaRz |
guys |
| 11:19 |
KikaRz |
gotta reboot pc |
| 11:19 |
KikaRz |
see ya in 1 minute |
| 11:25 |
* PilzAdam |
uses YouTube feather because the new design sucks |
| 11:28 |
Jordach |
STOP THE PRESSES |
| 11:28 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam you said you would never use a google product..whats a youtube? |
| 11:29 |
PilzAdam |
I said i would never use google |
| 11:29 |
PilzAdam |
not Google products |
| 11:30 |
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| 11:30 |
KikaRz |
Hi there :) |
| 11:30 |
KikaRz |
Back. |
| 11:30 |
KikaRz |
now going to compile minetest :) |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
hey, if i dont put -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1, or 0, it dont cares? |
| 11:31 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: see my one line script |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, your is bugged. |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
got a problem |
| 11:31 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
| 11:31 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
cmake is glitched |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
make is bugged. |
| 11:31 |
Calinou |
works for me |
| 11:31 |
Calinou |
you forgot to install dependencies then |
| 11:31 |
KikaRz |
not the dependencies |
| 11:32 |
KikaRz |
the https:// |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, why always install dependencies? |
| 11:32 |
KikaRz |
must be http:// or git:// |
| 11:32 |
Calinou |
no, https works |
| 11:32 |
KikaRz |
Aristides got problem |
| 11:32 |
KikaRz |
with that |
| 11:32 |
Calinou |
well then I'll point to git protocol URLs |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
hey |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
at the end of compilation |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
it runs automaticly the game |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder." |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
can i use just that? i just got the dependencies |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: try my script now |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
it does run the game, yes |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
if you already got the deps, yes it will work |
| 11:33 |
KikaRz |
It saves the bin folder? |
| 11:34 |
KikaRz |
it didnt, last time i ran it |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
i've changed the URLs to point to the git protocol URLs |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
~/minetest/bin > has the minetest binary |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
(note that the script builds a non-run-in-place version, user data does to ~/.minetest) |
| 11:34 |
KikaRz |
ill just use that: git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder." |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
should work if you have the deps |
| 11:35 |
KikaRz |
i should use Nautilus or Tunar? |
| 11:35 |
KikaRz |
*Thunar |
| 11:36 |
KikaRz |
today its fasty. (the downloading and the compiling |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
thunar |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
nautilus is for gnome, thunar is for xfce |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
also thunar is better :3 |
| 11:37 |
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| 11:38 |
KikaRz |
calinou |
| 11:39 |
KikaRz |
can i use "make" only? |
| 11:39 |
KikaRz |
without -j2 |
| 11:39 |
KikaRz |
i got a pentium 4 |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
yes, of course |
| 11:42 |
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| 11:42 |
markveidemanis |
what site can i use to upload |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
i gtg, bye |
| 11:42 |
Calinou |
ompldr.org |
| 11:44 |
KikaRz |
markveidemanis, use ompldr.org, mediafire.com, rapidshare.com, uploaded.com |
| 11:44 |
KikaRz |
what you want |
| 11:44 |
markveidemanis |
omlpdr |
| 11:44 |
markveidemanis |
http://ompldr.org/vZ21sYQ/MOD.zip |
| 11:45 |
KikaRz |
compiling |
| 11:45 |
markveidemanis |
u will need to run modpack once to generate cache to reduce lagg connecting to my server |
| 11:45 |
Jordach |
markveidemanis - does not work like that |
| 11:45 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 11:46 |
markveidemanis |
does |
| 11:46 |
KikaRz |
markveidemanis, we are at more time in the minetest. |
| 11:46 |
Jordach |
because thats your local world |
| 11:46 |
KikaRz |
you dont know how its done. |
| 11:46 |
KikaRz |
21 % compiled |
| 11:47 |
markveidemanis |
who is a programmer and is familiar with mutimode |
| 11:47 |
Jordach |
your being too broad |
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| 11:48 |
Jordach |
no one here uses multi-node bar mauvebic |
| 11:48 |
markveidemanis |
can someone come on my server and explain my mods to me:) |
| 11:48 |
Jordach |
yes we're programmers, but it depends on language. |
| 11:48 |
Jordach |
br# |
| 11:48 |
Jordach |
brb |
| 11:48 |
KikaRz |
yes. |
| 11:48 |
KikaRz |
like me |
| 11:48 |
KikaRz |
im not programmer in lua |
| 11:48 |
KikaRz |
but ill be |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
im just in python, |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
HTML |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
PHP |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
C++ |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
C+ |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
C# |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
Yay! My vps is activated! *__* |
| 11:49 |
PilzAdam |
HTML is *not* a programming language |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
yes it is. |
| 11:49 |
KikaRz |
but not really the way you think |
| 11:49 |
PilzAdam |
its a markup language |
| 11:50 |
KikaRz |
pc being used 100% |
| 11:50 |
KikaRz |
reason: compiling |
| 11:51 |
Jordach |
like LatEX |
| 11:52 |
KikaRz |
so, javascript is what? |
| 11:52 |
KikaRz |
. |
| 11:52 |
PilzAdam |
a programming language? |
| 11:52 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 11:52 |
KikaRz |
its a language used in programming, web |
| 11:52 |
KikaRz |
and etc |
| 11:53 |
Jordach |
LatEX is markup |
| 11:53 |
jin_xi |
how do i shot web |
| 11:53 |
Jordach |
(similar to .odf) |
| 11:53 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, that wasnt a question |
| 11:53 |
KikaRz |
40%. |
| 11:53 |
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| 11:54 |
KikaRz |
Welcome q66 |
| 11:57 |
KikaRz |
50 % |
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KikaRz |
70 % |
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KikaRz |
minetest built. |
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KikaRz |
minetestserver left. |
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Zeg9 |
john_minetest, you look bored |
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Zeg9 |
I'll maybe work on PP |
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KikaRz |
80 |
| 12:16 |
* Jordach |
just had a wtf moment |
| 12:16 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam - can i ask you for something? |
| 12:17 |
KikaRz |
hey |
| 12:17 |
KikaRz |
if i connect my pc to my television |
| 12:17 |
KikaRz |
itll work? |
| 12:17 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, sure |
| 12:17 |
KikaRz |
linux will support' |
| 12:17 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 12:17 |
neko259 |
Hi everybody. I have a strange problem with the server. At some point it starts to consume more and more RAM (from the usual 80M he got to 17G). I try to look at the trace (started server with --trace) |
| 12:17 |
neko259 |
and have just lines like: 4 <- 83.149.9.11:50225, size=63, data=63, data= 4F45 7403 0002 0001 0010 1972 6F61 6E31 316D 0000... |
| 12:18 |
KikaRz |
90% |
| 12:18 |
KikaRz |
markveidemanis, markveidemanis_, its 90% |
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KikaRz |
hi iqualfragile |
| 12:20 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, sweetie, are you there? |
| 12:21 |
KikaRz |
100 :D |
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Matsetes |
I'm back |
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KikaRz |
Guys |
| 12:24 |
KikaRz |
got a problem |
| 12:24 |
KikaRz |
my textures are bugged |
| 12:24 |
KikaRz |
and sounds |
| 12:25 |
KikaRz |
http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php |
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KikaRz |
GUYS |
| 12:27 |
KikaRz |
GOT A PROBLEM HERE |
| 12:27 |
KikaRz |
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php |
| 12:27 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
someone can help me |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
? |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
iqualfragile ? |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam ? |
| 12:28 |
iqualfragile |
hi |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
texture is bugged |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
yesterday wasnt |
| 12:28 |
iqualfragile |
what did you change? |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
nothing |
| 12:28 |
KikaRz |
i finished compiling now |
| 12:29 |
KikaRz |
maybe its the cache folder |
| 12:29 |
KikaRz |
since yesterday i've been playing... |
| 12:29 |
KikaRz |
then my pc crashed. |
| 12:29 |
iqualfragile |
interesting… looks flipped |
| 12:29 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
In the console... |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,9,11) |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
node_dig |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,8,11) |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
Unsupported texture format |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
node_dig |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
12:23:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,10,11) |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
node_dig |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
12:23:33: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,11,11) |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
shall i remove cache folder? |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
and run game agian? |
| 12:30 |
KikaRz |
*again |
| 12:31 |
iqualfragile |
try it |
| 12:31 |
KikaRz |
restarting game... |
| 12:31 |
KikaRz |
remembering, this is my first time using linux *-* |
| 12:31 |
KikaRz |
kidding, |
| 12:32 |
KikaRz |
just first time playing minetest with linux |
| 12:32 |
Matsetes |
KikaRz: new to Linux? |
| 12:32 |
KikaRz |
still flipped. |
| 12:32 |
KikaRz |
yes matsetes |
| 12:33 |
Matsetes |
KikaRz: Wow! =) |
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KikaRz |
In linux, its faster than windows |
| 12:36 |
KikaRz |
*_* |
| 12:37 |
KikaRz |
windows worlds are compatible with linux, right? |
| 12:37 |
Zeg9 |
Why wouldn't they? |
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KikaRz |
markveidemanis |
| 12:38 |
KikaRz |
can i enter now? |
| 12:38 |
markveidemanis |
im still choosing mods |
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markveidemanis |
ok my server is up to everyone who wants |
| 12:39 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 12:39 |
markveidemanis |
ip: my name>whois |
| 12:39 |
KikaRz |
port? |
| 12:39 |
markveidemanis |
30000 |
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| 12:43 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 12:43 |
KikaRz |
finishing my house |
| 12:43 |
KikaRz |
hey, the slabs are in default game? |
| 12:43 |
KikaRz |
oh, they are |
| 12:43 |
markveidemanis |
go on my server, have to go seen |
| 12:43 |
markveidemanis |
#soon |
| 12:44 |
Zeg9 |
mark, It keeps on "connecting to server" |
| 12:44 |
Zeg9 |
Forget this |
| 12:44 |
Zeg9 |
My fault |
| 12:44 |
Jordach |
Jeija, can i tell you something quickly? |
| 12:44 |
KikaRz |
guys, whats the slab id? |
| 12:44 |
KikaRz |
default: ?? |
| 12:44 |
KikaRz |
wood slab |
| 12:46 |
KikaRz |
Jordach |
| 12:47 |
Zeg9 |
stairs:slab_wood |
| 12:47 |
Zeg9 |
or stairs:wood_slab |
| 12:47 |
KikaRz |
not mods. |
| 12:47 |
Zeg9 |
I never remember |
| 12:47 |
Zeg9 |
stairs is in default mods |
| 12:48 |
KikaRz |
and pickaxe? |
| 12:49 |
Zeg9 |
default:pick_wood |
| 12:49 |
markveidemanis |
_____ |
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markveidemanis |
_ |
| 12:52 |
KikaRz |
uff |
| 12:52 |
KikaRz |
water still dont destroys torches |
| 12:52 |
KikaRz |
what a luck |
| 12:53 |
KikaRz |
if it were destroying, my map were ruined |
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KikaRz |
finished my first house in linux |
| 12:59 |
KikaRz |
1 PM! |
| 13:00 |
cae2000 |
hello |
| 13:00 |
KikaRz |
hi |
| 13:00 |
KikaRz |
Zeg9 |
| 13:00 |
KikaRz |
I have 2 partitions (windows and linux) |
| 13:00 |
KikaRz |
how i get into the windows files by linux?= |
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cae2000 |
no idea |
| 13:01 |
cae2000 |
but you can accses the linux files from windows |
| 13:02 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 13:02 |
KikaRz |
no i cant. |
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cae2000 |
No? |
| 13:02 |
KikaRz |
nope |
| 13:02 |
cae2000 |
really? |
| 13:02 |
cae2000 |
twow |
| 13:02 |
cae2000 |
w*wow |
| 13:03 |
KikaRz |
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/01/02/how-to-access-microsoft-windows-files-and-folders-from-linux/ |
| 13:03 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: How to access Microsoft Windows files and folders from Linux |
| 13:03 |
cae2000 |
*wow work keybord! |
| 13:03 |
Zeg9 |
Can you send me a screenshot of your file manager, KikaRz? |
| 13:04 |
KikaRz |
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-130423.php |
| 13:04 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr |
| 13:05 |
Zeg9 |
Hmm, yeah, it doesn't show |
| 13:05 |
Zeg9 |
Try installing ntfs3g |
| 13:05 |
KikaRz |
its already installed |
| 13:05 |
KikaRz |
i guess |
| 13:05 |
Zeg9 |
ls /dev/sd* |
| 13:06 |
KikaRz |
joaoubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sd* |
| 13:06 |
KikaRz |
/dev/sda /dev/sda1 |
| 13:06 |
Zeg9 |
Weird... |
| 13:06 |
Zeg9 |
Maybe you can't access it because you installed through wubi |
| 13:07 |
KikaRz |
yes i can |
| 13:07 |
cae2000 |
i have two computers, one with windows (one im using now) and one with ubuntu linux. so i dont know. |
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KikaRz |
last time i instaled it |
| 13:07 |
KikaRz |
i installed it with wub |
| 13:07 |
KikaRz |
and worked |
| 13:08 |
Zeg9 |
cat /etc/fstab |
| 13:09 |
KikaRz |
let me try this |
| 13:09 |
KikaRz |
http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu |
| 13:09 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow |
| 13:09 |
cae2000 |
sda & sda1 are partion names. one will be win and the other will be linux |
| 13:09 |
KikaRz |
joaoubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab |
| 13:09 |
KikaRz |
# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM |
| 13:10 |
KikaRz |
./host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disknoneswapsw00 |
| 13:10 |
KikaRz |
without . |
| 13:10 |
Zeg9 |
Oh wait |
| 13:10 |
Zeg9 |
Can you try: |
| 13:10 |
Zeg9 |
ls /dev/hd* |
| 13:10 |
KikaRz |
we need to mound it |
| 13:10 |
KikaRz |
joaoubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd* |
| 13:10 |
KikaRz |
ls: cannot access /dev/hd*: No such file or directory |
| 13:10 |
Zeg9 |
Ok, then I don't see |
| 13:10 |
Zeg9 |
Try gparted, as written in your link |
| 13:11 |
cae2000 |
i like gparted |
| 13:11 |
cae2000 |
its cool |
| 13:11 |
KikaRz |
cant install by apt-get |
| 13:11 |
cae2000 |
you can make your own partions |
| 13:12 |
cae2000 |
so maby you can read them |
| 13:12 |
KikaRz |
Synaptic... |
| 13:12 |
KikaRz |
Love you... |
| 13:12 |
KikaRz |
how much time ago... |
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cae2000 |
? |
| 13:13 |
KikaRz |
Synaptic package manager |
| 13:13 |
cae2000 |
ok |
| 13:13 |
KikaRz |
stupid ubuntu software center |
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cae2000 |
the whol "love you..."thing... |
| 13:14 |
cae2000 |
hi ruben |
| 13:14 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back rubenwardy |
| 13:15 |
cae2000 |
ubuntu software center uses atp-get anyway. |
| 13:15 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 13:15 |
KikaRz |
ill install super tux too :) |
| 13:15 |
cae2000 |
thats how it installs |
| 13:15 |
cae2000 |
:) |
| 13:16 |
cae2000 |
how many people are on? |
| 13:17 |
cae2000 |
i dissaper in a poof of smoke! |
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| 13:19 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Back rubenwardy |
| 13:21 |
Jordach |
hello rubenwardy |
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KikaRz |
whats the shortcut to terminal? |
| 13:31 |
* VanessaE |
wanders in sleepily. |
| 13:31 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 13:32 |
KikaRz |
WHATS THE SHORTCUT TO TERMINAL? NEED TO KILL MOZILAL FIREFOX! |
| 13:32 |
VanessaE |
it's in the Accessories menu |
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Jordach |
hey VanessaE, mauvebic |
| 13:32 |
VanessaE |
I don't know the shortcut (I reprogrammed it) |
| 13:33 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: you could try the command entry window - Alt-F2 |
| 13:33 |
VanessaE |
"killall firefox" |
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mauvebic |
hey jordach |
| 13:33 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 13:33 |
KikaRz |
not necessary |
| 13:34 |
KikaRz |
i killed firefox, synaptic and much more with Alt + F4 by error. |
| 13:34 |
KikaRz |
,,, |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE |
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KikaRz |
Minetest is compiled |
| 13:35 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
| 13:35 |
KikaRz |
successfully. |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
hey PilzAdam. |
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* Jordach |
grabs a bag of MONSTER mUNCH |
| 13:35 |
KikaRz |
whats the shortcut to change of screen? |
| 13:35 |
KikaRz |
the top dont works |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE |
change of screen? |
| 13:35 |
KikaRz |
fuck this speakers |
| 13:36 |
KikaRz |
they are making interference with ghosts. |
| 13:36 |
KikaRz |
yes |
| 13:36 |
KikaRz |
Screen 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 |
| 13:36 |
KikaRz |
that multi screen |
| 13:36 |
KikaRz |
in linux |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
roll the mouse wheel over your wallpaper |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE |
I don't know the shortcut - I don't use multiple desktops, just two separate monitors. |
| 13:37 |
KikaRz |
cant |
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KikaRz |
i cant access anything |
| 13:37 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back (for the 3rd time) rubenwardy |
| 13:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm afraid I don't understand |
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KikaRz |
my pc is fucking stupid |
| 13:39 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, no problem, its solved. |
| 13:40 |
KikaRz |
so, what you doing? |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
catching up on the forums |
| 13:42 |
KikaRz |
Ok |
| 13:42 |
KikaRz |
i was compiling the minetest |
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rubenwardy |
oin minetst |
| 13:43 |
rubenwardy |
j |
| 13:43 |
KikaRz |
and... it works perfectly |
| 13:43 |
KikaRz |
just 1 problem |
| 13:43 |
KikaRz |
rubenwardy, you were sleeping alive. |
| 13:43 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, you want to know the problem and solve it? |
| 13:43 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 13:44 |
KikaRz |
its the textures |
| 13:44 |
KikaRz |
in the inventory |
| 13:44 |
VanessaE |
not enough video memory. |
| 13:45 |
VanessaE |
or a bad driver. |
| 13:45 |
VanessaE |
those are the usual causes of that bug. |
| 13:45 |
VanessaE |
lots of people have had that happen. |
| 13:45 |
KikaRz |
when we pickup something or break wood |
| 13:45 |
KikaRz |
it appears that the texture is at the reverse |
| 13:45 |
KikaRz |
wait , going to show you a print |
| 13:46 |
KikaRz |
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php |
| 13:46 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr |
| 13:46 |
KikaRz |
look to the bar of inventory |
| 13:47 |
KikaRz |
are you seeing VanessaE? |
| 13:47 |
VanessaE |
I see it |
| 13:47 |
VanessaE |
I do not know the solution |
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| 13:47 |
KikaRz |
its not the cache |
| 13:47 |
VanessaE |
all textures do that, or only just some? |
| 13:47 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
ah |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
just some |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
like Wood, tree, stone, cobble... |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
many nodes... |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
but not leaves, |
| 13:48 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs.. I don't know why it's doing that. |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
im trying to do this |
| 13:48 |
KikaRz |
http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu |
| 13:48 |
moltenbot |
KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow |
| 13:49 |
KikaRz |
to get there my world |
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| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual. |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: your world file is not the problem - it's most likely your video driver, especially if you're using something like nouveau or VESA or so. |
| 13:50 |
VanessaE |
that said, the engine does need to be fixed to handle these various corner cases far better |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
not the world file. |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
its to get my world |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
to play in 0.4.4 linux |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
oh I see what you meant. |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
i want to copy my world file to linux |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
well Ubuntu should have mounted your windows drive and put it on the desktop |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
then, ill play with it |
| 13:51 |
VanessaE |
it normally does that now |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
nope |
| 13:51 |
KikaRz |
not happening |
| 13:52 |
VanessaE |
I dunno then - I've not used windows since the win95 days |
| 13:52 |
KikaRz |
why i cant find Partition editor in System (menu) ? |
| 13:52 |
VanessaE |
because you installed via Wubi I guess. there are no partitions to edit, and that's not how you access win files anyway |
| 13:53 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 13:53 |
KikaRz |
not that |
| 13:54 |
KikaRz |
Well done! |
| 13:54 |
KikaRz |
I know executing programs by terminal |
| 13:54 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 13:54 |
VanessaE |
having a machine infected with windows is bad for your health :-) |
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Jordach |
bullshit |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - i use windows |
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| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
<Abe> He uses Windows!? The poor schmuck... |
| 13:56 |
VanessaE |
;-) |
| 13:57 |
KikaRz |
stupid Abe. |
| 13:57 |
VanessaE |
hohoho |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
go on, freedom is a false sense of mind |
| 13:57 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 13:57 |
KikaRz |
can i try minetest in your server? :P |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
we are not allowed to "DO AS WE" please |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
<Abe> Way to get in my good graces there, Jordach :-) |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: if you want, sure |
| 13:58 |
* Jordach |
cant tell if its VanessaE or Abe |
| 13:58 |
KikaRz |
vanessaE |
| 13:58 |
KikaRz |
24.181.193.82:30000 ? |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I'm just relaying what he's saying |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
heh |
| 13:59 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: that's right |
| 13:59 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, that ip =? |
| 13:59 |
KikaRz |
i removed the ip from your whois |
| 14:00 |
VanessaE |
copied. |
| 14:00 |
KikaRz |
conclusion: |
| 14:00 |
KikaRz |
Media downloading is faster in Linux than Windows |
| 14:01 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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KikaRz |
lol |
| 14:02 |
iqualfragile |
is it? |
| 14:02 |
KikaRz |
anunakki, how i get a null host ? |
| 14:02 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 14:02 |
iqualfragile |
media downloading is slow in general |
| 14:02 |
iqualfragile |
it does not use the full bandwidth |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
nope, definitely not |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, i joined. |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
UDP is not meant for such things |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: I know, I see you |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
Not that |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
i joined in server |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
already |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
not just char there |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: I know, I see you on the server |
| 14:03 |
KikaRz |
i see you static |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE |
from my end I can see you before you are actually "in" |
| 14:04 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 14:04 |
KikaRz |
console downloading |
| 14:04 |
KikaRz |
almost there |
| 14:04 |
KikaRz |
90% |
| 14:04 |
KikaRz |
95 |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
hi? |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
my game is frozen |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
can you teleport me to you? |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
let it finish. |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
/teleport KikaRz VanessaE |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
its finished |
| 14:05 |
VanessaE |
andI'm right next to you. |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
OMG |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
IM LAGGING |
| 14:05 |
KikaRz |
go away from there and teleport me |
| 14:06 |
KikaRz |
game down |
| 14:06 |
* Jordach |
signs in like a boss |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE |
teleported you to the spawn |
| 14:06 |
KikaRz |
my game crashed |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE |
yup, you just timed out just now |
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| 14:07 |
KikaRz |
Welcome back NekoGloop |
| 14:07 |
KikaRz |
I see that you have an ipv8 |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
good morning neko. |
| 14:07 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
ipv6. |
| 14:07 |
KikaRz |
or that |
| 14:07 |
* Jordach |
is stuck at 50% downloaded. |
| 14:08 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - haul your servers ass# |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
sowwy |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
maybe new media downloads |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
I've been updating some mods |
| 14:08 |
KikaRz |
entering |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE |
ah there you are |
| 14:08 |
devlab |
brb |
| 14:08 |
NekoGloop |
I have an ipad |
| 14:08 |
KikaRz |
i've an ifode. |
| 14:08 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 14:09 |
NekoGloop |
Cant help that it automagically does ipv6 |
| 14:09 |
KikaRz |
search in google |
| 14:09 |
NekoGloop |
Glogle doesnt help |
| 14:09 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: go over to the rollercoaster. |
| 14:13 |
whirm1 |
Minetest should add swift support to download the media |
| 14:14 |
Zeg9 |
VanessaE, can you put this skin for me ? |
| 14:14 |
Zeg9 |
http://ompldr.org/vZ21ucA |
| 14:15 |
whirm1 |
it uses UDP and is capable of using the full bandwidth without causing lag, it only uses the unused bandwith |
| 14:15 |
whirm1 |
and it's p2p |
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PilzAdam |
<VanessaE> PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual. <- I have updated the forum post to mention both versions |
| 14:21 |
VanessaE |
Zeg9: I will soon |
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PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 14:24 |
grondilu |
omg I'v actually managed to connect to a server. That's cool, considering I have no advanced graphics card |
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grondilu |
lol I'm in a very tall building and there is a cloud that goes through the walls |
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| 14:35 |
Jordach |
WTF |
| 14:35 |
Jordach |
There are FRAGMENTS OF GOOGLE CHROME RENDERINGS IN MINETEST. |
| 14:39 |
NekoGloop |
....? |
| 14:41 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop - i freaked |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/YQok6.png and http://i.imgur.com/4OUb5.png |
| 14:41 |
Jordach |
note under the white brick. |
| 14:41 |
Jordach |
thats from twitter |
| 14:42 |
Jordach |
and parts of Planet Minecraft in there too |
| 14:44 |
grondilu |
I'm stuck in water. Ain't I supposed to go up if I press the space bar? |
| 14:44 |
NekoGloop |
Yeah |
| 14:44 |
NekoGloop |
But if you have <5fps you are lagging too much to do so |
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| 14:46 |
NekoGloop |
And also hold the spacebar too |
| 14:48 |
brobostigon |
turning fly on, might help. |
| 14:48 |
NekoGloop |
How about a non cheat method? |
| 14:49 |
Jordach |
bug report filed: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347 |
| 14:49 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 14:49 |
brobostigon |
NekoGloop: flying is not cheating, what is you fall down a casm, while digging a tunnel? you have no way out, but that. |
| 14:50 |
NekoGloop |
Yes you do |
| 14:50 |
NekoGloop |
Its called digging. |
| 14:50 |
brobostigon |
its their for a reason, and i like it, :) |
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| 14:51 |
NekoGloop |
Cheater. |
| 14:51 |
brobostigon |
ohwell. |
| 14:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - could look over minetest issue #347 |
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* VanessaE |
looks... |
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Jordach |
VanessaE - notice the two screenshots. |
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| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
weird... |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
of course you know c55 will blame RBA, since that's his inventory mod :-) |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 15:01 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
yeah. but this also happens in the default creative |
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| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
you should make a note of that in the issue |
| 15:03 |
KikaRz |
RealBadAngel, discovered one thing on your invetory. |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
*inventory |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
In the Miscallaneous, there is Set Day and Set Night. |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
that could be used just for server owners |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
not all players |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: I already let him know about that |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
those buttons should require settime priv, imho, |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 15:04 |
KikaRz |
not that only |
| 15:05 |
KikaRz |
those buttons should make commands: |
| 15:05 |
KikaRz |
/time 6000 |
| 15:05 |
KikaRz |
and /time 12000 (i guess) |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
/time 6000 and /time 19000 |
| 15:05 |
KikaRz |
that. |
| 15:06 |
rubenwardy |
I have a fork of a github repo, and i am using github on Ubuntu. How do I update changes made in the main repo, to my fork one |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
at present I think they set 12000 and 0 or something |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: just git pull with the pull URL set to the original repo |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
and git push with the push URL set to yours |
| 15:06 |
rubenwardy |
$ git pull http://...../asinja.git ? |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
git remote set-url --push origin gitgithub.com/rubenwardy/blahblah.git |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
then just git push |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
a git pull will probably pull from the main repo anyway if you forked it via github's web interface |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
VanessaE posts / comment updated |
| 15:08 |
VanessaE |
er, there should be a colon in that 'remote' line up there, you get the idea. |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
fatal: 'gitgithub.com/rubenwardy/minetest.net.git' does not appear to be a git repository |
| 15:08 |
rubenwardy |
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: sorry, 'gitgithub.com:rubenwardy/minetest.net.git' |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
with a colon |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
or just copy&paste it from your github page :-) |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
Permission denied (publickey). |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347 |
| 15:12 |
moltenbot |
Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Your world is now mirrored as 30017 for the moment at minetest.org. We'll keep it unchanged for now so you can update your own copy. When you are ready I wish you to visit my copy and record your places using the Places mod. |
| 15:16 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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| 15:21 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - there is a happy ending for me |
| 15:21 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Ello |
| 15:21 |
NakedFury |
hey |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
at least it did not head for the next few megs over |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: eh? |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
;) |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
after twitter i went somewhere else |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
Until you restart server and back it up |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
ill see mesecons |
| 15:22 |
KikaRz |
and get some food |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
it "just missed" the vram area for it |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
ok, it's back up. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: please re-download http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz, jin_xi, Jordach (and others too), the server's already back |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
i was not there |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
just honk the users that are playing it!! |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz |
ok VanessaE |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
s/honk/ping |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
so get back there and build something practical then :-) |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz |
Jordach, you're not allowed to go to my place |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
like my 512k ram pack |
| 15:25 |
KikaRz |
if you continue planting there some trees, you die. |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
i use microcontrollers and pistons |
| 15:26 |
Jordach |
(which alternate a status of the mesecon wire) |
| 15:27 |
KikaRz |
mesecon's site? |
| 15:27 |
* Jordach |
also knows a turning machine using movestones |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
s/turning/turing |
| 15:27 |
KikaRz |
oh, mesecons.tk |
| 15:28 |
Zeg9 |
back, 'sup? |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
blarg |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
still doing it |
| 15:29 |
Jeija |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4013 << I launched my second mesecons machine competition. There are some "speed challenges". The first one to send a map in ist the winner of them. |
| 15:29 |
moltenbot |
Jeija's link: Mesecons machine competiton 2.0! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
Jeija: go to 24.181.193.82 port 30000 (with 0.4.4-release) and try the roller coaster :-) |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam's carts in place - they're jittery and jumpy but functional. |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
uses mesecons :-) |
| 15:32 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, proceeding |
| 15:32 |
Jeija |
VanessaE: I joined, but transferring the media takes a while... |
| 15:33 |
KikaRz |
Jeija |
| 15:33 |
KikaRz |
if i send a blank map |
| 15:33 |
KikaRz |
what you do? |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
yeah it'll take a while. |
| 15:33 |
KikaRz |
.-. |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
VanessaE |
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Jordach |
come to me now |
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| 15:37 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, hello |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
VansesaE |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
*VanessaE |
| 15:38 |
KikaRz |
i wanted to: |
| 15:39 |
KikaRz |
When pressing 4 right buttons, |
| 15:39 |
KikaRz |
open a door |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
use AND gates. |
| 15:39 |
KikaRz |
how? |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, world updated and converted again to LevelDB. This can be repeated as often as you like for a while. I see a large unknown block. |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
where? |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
screenshot? |
| 15:41 |
OldCoder |
90.5,11.5,184.1 |
| 15:41 |
OldCoder |
screenshot would take a few minutes. Perhaps visit? |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
ok, on my way, |
| 15:42 |
OldCoder |
Inside house |
| 15:43 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 |
| 15:43 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 15:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, the _game uses the ZIP you gave me last night |
| 15:43 |
OldCoder |
Have you updated that ZIP ? |
| 15:44 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, this copy of the world is probably temporary |
| 15:44 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, as I am using your _game why isn't it working? |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, he sees your 3D skin without 3D support yet |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
It is... abstract |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
GRR |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
my computer frozen |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
with minetest opened |
| 15:45 |
KikaRz |
i had to Alt + F4 |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: I added the computers mod afterward. |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
Reupload _game ZIP ? |
| 15:46 |
VanessaE |
just download the missing mod :-) |
| 15:46 |
OldCoder |
Very busy but O.K. |
| 15:46 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, any chance you'll post a direct download link? |
| 15:46 |
OldCoder |
nvm |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE |
I'll re-upload the zip of the game if you want. |
| 15:48 |
Zeg9 |
VanessaE, http://ompldr.org/vZ21wOQ |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
oh weird. |
| 15:48 |
KikaRz |
LOL |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
oh I know why |
| 15:48 |
KikaRz |
well, VanessaE |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
oldcoder uses my copy of vanessa_game which has the player_textures mod in it, which has only 3d textures. |
| 15:49 |
Zeg9 |
Must be that |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you will either need to update the server to 0.4.4 or delete the player_textures mod from that game. |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 15:50 |
KikaRz |
brb |
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| 15:50 |
KikaRz |
back |
| 15:50 |
KikaRz |
the scissors is here |
| 15:52 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, VanessaE, restarting world with computers added |
| 15:53 |
KikaRz |
OK |
| 15:53 |
OldCoder |
Will add computers to other worlds too I think |
| 15:53 |
Zeg9 |
OldCoder, I think you should remove carts, or put the old version. I guess carts 2.0 will just crash the server |
| 15:53 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, from which world? |
| 15:53 |
Zeg9 |
VanessaE's |
| 15:53 |
KikaRz |
Vanessa, im joining |
| 15:54 |
Zeg9 |
I vote yes for computers |
| 15:54 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, I am using the version that she is using; should they still go? Ask her |
| 15:54 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder, you're not hoster of VanessaE server |
| 15:54 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, I am of this copy |
| 15:54 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 15:54 |
Zeg9 |
No, she is using carts 2.0 and it only works with 0.4.4 |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon |
| 15:54 |
Zeg9 |
...I just crashed the server by trying x) |
| 15:54 |
OldCoder |
Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon. Possibly tomorrow or Tuesday |
| 15:54 |
Zeg9 |
Alright |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
mesecon impossibility |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/eHWjw.png |
| 15:57 |
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OldCoder |
computers will appear in most worlds on next rebuild |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
in ten days, add tablet/smartphone mod, then noone will use computers 8D |
| 16:00 |
NakedFury |
are you gonna build from source too? |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, who are you addressing? |
| 16:00 |
NakedFury |
you |
| 16:01 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I don't understand. How would I proceed without building from source? |
| 16:01 |
NakedFury |
dont know, downloading someone elses already compiled version |
| 16:01 |
Zeg9 |
There is no point to do that. |
| 16:02 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, would not work |
| 16:02 |
OldCoder |
So yes will build from source |
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OldCoder |
mrtux, wb |
| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: he uses a moderately-patched version - code patches taken from various forks or something |
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| 16:03 |
VanessaE |
especially LevelDB. no pre-compiled copy will do for that. |
| 16:03 |
NakedFury |
well I will be waiting for it |
| 16:03 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, even aside from that builds are required for servers for best results |
| 16:11 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: are you updateing all worlds to 4.4 |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, If it works and is safe |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
All existing stuff must continue to run |
| 16:12 |
babyface1031 |
ok i just wanted to know so i know to download 4.4 or not :) |
| 16:13 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Not yet |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: ZERO POINT four point four :-) |
| 16:13 |
OldCoder |
I will build new clients |
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| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: the leading zero is not optional. |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
</petpeeve> |
| 16:21 |
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paxcoder |
yeah |
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| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
hrm...there's no decent "stained glass" mod? Not even just colored glass edges? |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
guess I'm gonna have to do something about that.. |
| 16:25 |
markveidemanis |
VANESSAE |
| 16:25 |
markveidemanis |
what mod do u use for skins |
| 16:28 |
PilzAdam |
player_textures |
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rubenwardy |
Doesnt the new 3d player thingy have it built in? |
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PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, no; its a mod |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
that one, in particular: https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures |
| 16:33 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: sdzen/player_textures ? GitHub |
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| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: is it possible to make entities use the new 3d models system? |
| 16:44 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: maybe that would get around the iniability to pitch the,m |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
them* |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
since one can move legs/arms in such ways already |
| 16:45 |
PilzAdam |
read lua-api.txt |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
that was supposed to be a suggestion for you to use ;-) |
| 16:46 |
PilzAdam |
well, i never used blender before |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
me neither. |
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NakedFury |
could nodes use the 3d model system? and when can we expect the ability to place individual or better textures for weird nodes? |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
nodes cant use the 3D models |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, so I guess 3d-model-based carts with proper pitch and turn controls will be ready in a few minutes then? ;-) |
| 16:53 |
* VanessaE |
waits...... :D |
| 16:53 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: why no? |
| 16:54 |
PilzAdam |
what? |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
(20:51:26) PilzAdam: nodes cant use the 3D models |
| 16:54 |
PilzAdam |
only entities can use it |
| 16:55 |
NakedFury |
then we still need the ability to paint non cube-ish nodes how we want |
| 16:56 |
thexyz |
weren't we talking about possibility? |
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OldCoder |
mauvebic, wb |
| 17:17 |
mauvebic |
hey oldcoder |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
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| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 17:32 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 17:32 |
KikaRz |
what happened to serve? |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
what? it seems fine to me |
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| 17:59 |
KikaRz |
what F10 does in linux? |
| 18:00 |
Zeg9 |
Console, but on debian based systems it often crashes |
| 18:00 |
KikaRz |
ubuntu isnt based in debian... |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
but crashed my game |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 18:01 |
Zeg9 |
ubuntu IS based on debian |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
too bad. |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
is? |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
ti? |
| 18:01 |
Zeg9 |
apt-get is from debian... |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
*is it? |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 18:01 |
KikaRz |
how to install adobe flash ? |
| 18:02 |
Zeg9 |
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer |
| 18:03 |
Zeg9 |
you can use gnash instead if you want |
| 18:03 |
KikaRz |
already tried it |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
KikaRz, i told you yesterday already |
| 18:03 |
KikaRz |
gnash dont works |
| 18:03 |
KikaRz |
on firefox |
| 18:04 |
KikaRz |
[sudo] password for joao: |
| 18:04 |
KikaRz |
E: Operação flashplugin-installer inválida |
| 18:04 |
KikaRz |
Operation flashplugin-installer invalid |
| 18:04 |
KikaRz |
or invalid operation |
| 18:04 |
KikaRz |
idk |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
you forgot the install |
| 18:05 |
PilzAdam |
its apt-get install flash... |
| 18:05 |
KikaRz |
installing google chrome first. |
| 18:06 |
thexyz |
you're on linux, use chromium |
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| 18:06 |
KikaRz |
or chromium |
| 18:07 |
Oebele |
hello |
| 18:07 |
KikaRz |
i downloaded by google.com/chrome |
| 18:07 |
KikaRz |
that works? |
| 18:07 |
KikaRz |
Hi Oebele, Welcome |
| 18:08 |
Zeg9 |
just use chromium |
| 18:08 |
Zeg9 |
sudo apt-get install chromium-browser |
| 18:08 |
Zeg9 |
But chrome will work too; if you really want their logo |
| 18:08 |
Oebele |
Hi KikaRz, thanks |
| 18:09 |
KikaRz |
Zeg9. |
| 18:09 |
KikaRz |
dont care about that |
| 18:09 |
Oebele |
I noticed the website claims that the debian package can be "Found in Apt.", but this is not entirely true, as this is only the case for wheezy(testing) and sid(unstable). Not for squeeze(stable) |
| 18:09 |
NakedFury |
can chromium use google chrome apps? |
| 18:09 |
Zeg9 |
It can use anything chrome can |
| 18:10 |
KikaRz |
chromium is the source code of google chrome |
| 18:10 |
NakedFury |
ok so if its the same whats the deal with chromium? |
| 18:10 |
KikaRz |
nothing |
| 18:10 |
NakedFury |
ohh so its just some stupid hate on google? |
| 18:11 |
thexyz |
chrome is closed-source version of chromium |
| 18:11 |
NakedFury |
arrr lets hate on all companies that create profit arrrr yeah arrr |
| 18:12 |
NakedFury |
that is what I have seen from almost all linux users |
| 18:12 |
NakedFury |
the image they have created in me |
| 18:12 |
NakedFury |
god forbid some programmers make money from their code |
| 18:12 |
NakedFury |
thats evil |
| 18:13 |
NakedFury |
back in a bit |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
<KikaRz> installing google chrome first. |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
<thexyz> you're on linux, use chromium |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
chromium works in any os |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
chrome works on linux too |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
but chromium is open source, chrome is not |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
they both do the same things |
| 18:17 |
Oebele |
so, where can I download minetest for debian? |
| 18:17 |
brobostigon |
Oebele: it is within the debian repos. |
| 18:19 |
markveidemanis |
Zeg9 |
| 18:21 |
Oebele |
brobostigon: not in squeeze, that's the whole issue. Anyway, I am installing it now via pinning |
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| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
i did shit |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
now i cant install / uninstall any package. |
| 18:22 |
brobostigon |
Oebele: i use testing and sid, ah, ohwell. |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
i forced my pc to shutdown |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
now i have to |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
sudo apt-get install -f |
| 18:23 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
Hi RealBadAngel |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 18:23 |
RealBadAngel |
whassup? |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
i broken my linux |
| 18:23 |
RealBadAngel |
better linux than a heart |
| 18:23 |
RealBadAngel |
;) |
| 18:23 |
KikaRz |
o.o |
| 18:24 |
PilzAdam |
hi RBA |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
you prefer breaking linux than breaking your hearth |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
you prefer breaking linux than breaking your heart* ? |
| 18:24 |
RealBadAngel |
safer ;) |
| 18:24 |
KikaRz |
now i dont have updates |
| 18:24 |
Zeg9 |
Hello RealBadAngel |
| 18:25 |
KikaRz |
RealBadAngel is in love. |
| 18:25 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz |
YAAAY |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz |
UPDATES ARE BACK! |
| 18:26 |
RealBadAngel |
its almost ready, need just some final touches, but it is functional |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
only a few special instances of crafting recipes have to be done |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean group,:dye, basecolor |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
and technic ones, alloy cookin and grinding |
| 18:29 |
KikaRz |
in 1 week, ill be here playing, building, demolishing, etc! |
| 18:30 |
KikaRz |
hey |
| 18:30 |
KikaRz |
Real Bad Angel |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
but UI side is ready |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
what? |
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| 18:31 |
RealBadAngel |
woof :P |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs |
| 18:31 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist ? Alice Human Sacrifice (English) ? Request - YouTube |
| 18:32 |
NakedFury |
RealBadAngel is it still the black semi transparent game texture or can we finally give it one? |
| 18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
NakedFury, you mean UI background? |
| 18:33 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
of course we can |
| 18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
theres a topic in forums with 1st one brave enough |
| 18:33 |
* VanessaE |
pokes RealBadAngel |
| 18:33 |
NakedFury |
must have missed it |
| 18:34 |
KikaRz |
make that: |
| 18:34 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: nice shot with the forum post |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 18:34 |
RealBadAngel |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4001 |
| 18:34 |
moltenbot |
RealBadAngel's link: [Mod] XGUI [0.1][xgui] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 18:35 |
NakedFury |
omg awesome |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
howdy VanessaE ? |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
RBA knows my opinion of that image :-) |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
yup :) |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
but folks can do such things now |
| 18:35 |
NakedFury |
opinion of how awesome it is to have proper inventory backgrounds? |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
all is about the taste |
| 18:36 |
RealBadAngel |
not about if it is possible |
| 18:36 |
NakedFury |
hmm we still cant do the hotbars? |
| 18:36 |
KikaRz |
if technic is installed, add buttons to invetory. |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
im preparing also custom skin for UI |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_2163561105.png |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
my new roller coaster :-) |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
(also developed in part by PilzAdam) |
| 18:38 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: this one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2734 |
| 18:38 |
moltenbot |
NekoGloop's link: Go away (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
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| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: oh. |
| 18:39 |
RealBadAngel |
NakedFury, we will get to hotbars and HUD stuff |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: please don't blank your posts like that. |
| 18:39 |
RealBadAngel |
one step at the time |
| 18:40 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: nice trick, hiding your name from the "edit by" |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: actually that's a bug in the forums, it defaults to silent edit for mods. I'd have preferred the opposite. |
| 18:40 |
KikaRz |
my pc is lagging>! |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
I tend to forget to uncheck it. |
| 18:40 |
* Zeg9 |
gotta go, bye everyone |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
ciao Zeg9 |
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| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
going to try supertux 2 |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
soon ill go back to server |
| 18:42 |
NekoGloop |
If i want my mod to disappear, then i have every right to let it do so. |
| 18:42 |
NakedFury |
the forum isnt a democracy |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: sure, but you don't have the right to blank your posts. c55 has already made that clear. |
| 18:43 |
KikaRz |
MY SUPER TUX IS ALL BUGGED UP! |
| 18:43 |
NekoGloop |
yes i do |
| 18:43 |
NekoGloop |
my post. my property. |
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| 18:43 |
NekoGloop |
i can destroy it if i want. |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: should we add this to rules? |
| 18:43 |
KikaRz |
NekoGloop |
| 18:43 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: your post, your property - within the forum's rules. there is a reason c55 removed the "delete post" option from regular users. |
| 18:43 |
KikaRz |
if you're talking about GloopOres, that mod sucks |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
which i fucking miss dearly |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: in my opinion yes, but that's up to c55, ultimately. |
| 18:44 |
NekoGloop |
All my mods suck. |
| 18:44 |
KikaRz |
can you list me up all mods? |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
if they sucks, I wouldn't have gloopores on my server... |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
sucked* |
| 18:44 |
NekoGloop |
And there is a delete post button |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
ok! so delete id |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
*it |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
:) |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
nope |
| 18:45 |
NekoGloop |
just not on top posts. |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
topics* |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
the good of not having flash player |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
is for Ads |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
from google ads |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
that suck |
| 18:45 |
MiJyn |
just install an adblocker |
| 18:45 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: it's not supposed to actually work anymore. C55 explicitly disabled that function to keep regular users from deleting posts and screwing up conversations or causing potentially useful info to disappear. |
| 18:46 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: get AdBlockPlus. |
| 18:46 |
KikaRz |
... (chromium) |
| 18:46 |
NekoGloop |
Well obviously he screwed that up |
| 18:46 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: there's an adblock plugin for that also. |
| 18:46 |
MiJyn |
VanessaE, I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to delete our own posts |
| 18:47 |
MiJyn |
KikaRz, Chromium has the best adblocking addon |
| 18:47 |
NakedFury |
the reason why there is no delete post button is because it will mess up any discussion in the threads |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: what was the license of that mod anyway? WTFPL I assume? |
| 18:49 |
NekoGloop |
it's called DE |
| 18:49 |
NekoGloop |
"Doesnt Exist" |
| 18:49 |
NakedFury |
it was WTFPL |
| 18:49 |
NakedFury |
I have the mod |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
mods.minetest.ru has it too |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
anyone got the version that had animated torches? |
| 18:50 |
MiJyn |
NakedFury, but someone could still edit a post removing all contents |
| 18:50 |
MiJyn |
And then it just clutters up the forum |
| 18:51 |
NakedFury |
yeah they can do such dickish moves too |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, your server still on? |
| 18:51 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: yes. |
| 18:52 |
KikaRz |
can you help me with my buildings? *_* |
| 18:52 |
thexyz |
MiJyn: and nothing can be done to prevent this |
| 18:52 |
thexyz |
except disabling edits, which is not fine |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
there. Sorry NekoGloop. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4014 |
| 18:53 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Ores [1.1] [gloopores] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 18:54 |
NekoGloop |
you do know that simply by uttering my name in the post, no one is going to download it? |
| 18:54 |
thexyz |
we should add this rule to mod releases "Forum information and guidelines" |
| 18:54 |
VanessaE |
maybe, maybe not. With my name attached to it as well, that might change. |
| 18:55 |
VanessaE |
not to say I'm a big macher on the forums, but who knows. |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: is this called "attention whore"? i'm not sure.. |
| 18:55 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: no, its the opposite |
| 18:55 |
NekoGloop |
i DONT want attention |
| 18:55 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 18:55 |
NakedFury |
anyone can help Revenantx on delta channel? |
| 18:56 |
MiJyn |
thexyz, so if a user can do that, and (s)he wants to delete the post, (s)he would just do that, so why not let the user delete the post so that the forum won't be cluttered with posts like: "Nevermind this post" |
| 18:56 |
thexyz |
that's why you're always like "i'm so awful, somebody, pity me" |
| 18:57 |
NekoGloop |
if you all stopped bringing it back up, i would not talk about it |
| 18:57 |
thexyz |
we can't stop talking about it until all mods are reuploaded |
| 18:58 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, can you help me with my buidling? |
| 18:58 |
RealBadAngel |
if you could stop behavin as cheap cheerleader slapped in the ass it would be just great |
| 18:58 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: shortly |
| 18:58 |
KikaRz |
going to server |
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| 18:58 |
KikaRz |
when will someone make a converter |
| 18:59 |
KikaRz |
of minecraft to minetest? |
| 18:59 |
KikaRz |
map |
| 18:59 |
RealBadAngel |
no1 ever will |
| 18:59 |
KikaRz |
why? |
| 18:59 |
RealBadAngel |
we are goin to be better |
| 18:59 |
KikaRz |
Not for that. |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
ok, toolsizes 1.0 and gloopblocks are now mirrored on my site |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
to convert my world |
| 19:00 |
KikaRz |
that incomplete one |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
any others I missed? |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
yeah, like everything? |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
like what? |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
well, the good mods anyway. |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
I can only remember those three. |
| 19:00 |
RealBadAngel |
the day will come that some1 will ask notch for possibility of conversion mt worlds |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
or, the ones that had some use to someone |
| 19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
he will pass that on Jeb of course |
| 19:01 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 19:01 |
KikaRz |
can you send me your ip ? |
| 19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
but anyways this day will come soon |
| 19:01 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz: 24.181.193.82:30000 write it down :-) |
| 19:02 |
KikaRz |
not for that |
| 19:02 |
KikaRz |
its to save in fucking minetest.conf |
| 19:03 |
VanessaE |
KikaRz and others, server going down for a moment. |
| 19:03 |
KikaRz |
going to join just when will shutdown for a moment. |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
thats too smart. |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
so |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
its on? |
| 19:04 |
VanessaE |
ok, server is up. |
| 19:05 |
VanessaE |
and now gloop blocks and toolsizes are in. |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
joining |
| 19:05 |
NekoGloop |
*crash* |
| 19:05 |
NekoGloop |
you broke it |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
more media to download? |
| 19:05 |
VanessaE |
kika: a bit, yes. |
| 19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
how would you know |
| 19:05 |
KikaRz |
only for that fucking damn mod? |
| 19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
youre playin mc |
| 19:06 |
NekoGloop |
because toolsizes takes a lot. |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
No im not RealBadAngel |
| 19:06 |
KikaRz |
MC dont works here |
| 19:06 |
NekoGloop |
and rba, I'm not playing anything right now. |
| 19:06 |
RealBadAngel |
he does |
| 19:06 |
RealBadAngel |
the kitty |
| 19:06 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: 20 pages of items in the creative inventory now :-) |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
ha ha ha, laughed the quenn and went away to wash some socks :P |
| 19:07 |
* marktraceur |
waves |
| 19:07 |
NakedFury |
RealBadAngel to use that inventory on a server would it have to be creative or can it be used by admins or players with the proper permission? |
| 19:08 |
RealBadAngel |
its universal |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
i love that inventory because arent needed privs |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
to set night or day |
| 19:08 |
RealBadAngel |
if in creative buttons will add items |
| 19:08 |
KikaRz |
xd |
| 19:09 |
RealBadAngel |
if in surrival, they serve just for crafting guide |
| 19:10 |
RealBadAngel |
mod checks for creative flag |
| 19:10 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, move it: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55841 |
| 19:10 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Boats [boats] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 19:11 |
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| 19:11 |
NakedFury |
wished there was a way to use it in non creative servers |
| 19:11 |
NekoGloop |
let's see. New versions are now CC-ND-BY-SA |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
okay, IM ON A BOAT PilzAdam |
| 19:12 |
thexyz |
nd? |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
no derivs |
| 19:12 |
RealBadAngel |
AND-BRG-A-BEER |
| 19:12 |
RealBadAngel |
v3.0 |
| 19:12 |
mauvebic |
-BEER |
| 19:12 |
RealBadAngel |
good license |
| 19:12 |
thexyz |
i mean, we should forbid nd |
| 19:12 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: whY? |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - you make a great server op |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, gimme a sec |
| 19:13 |
thexyz |
and probably NC too |
| 19:13 |
NekoGloop |
if i dont wanna let you steal my code, then you shouldnt be allowed to |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: how;'s that? |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
we always know whats happened |
| 19:13 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: well, not forbid, but don't allow such mods to be moved to Releases section |
| 19:13 |
mauvebic |
that would only apply to the forums anyhow |
| 19:13 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, have you helped Oldoder to merge levelDB? |
| 19:13 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: why? |
| 19:13 |
RealBadAngel |
*Oldcoder |
| 19:14 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: because of the selfishness of theives like yourself? |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: well, I explained him everything |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
seems it worked fine for him |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
thx |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: yes |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
because of that |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
definetly |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: what's it look like? screenshot? |
| 19:14 |
NekoGloop |
well then i'm definitely releasing them in CC-ND-BY-SA |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
it currently looks ugly so no screenshot |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
haha ok |
| 19:15 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: sure |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
moved. |
| 19:15 |
NakedFury |
thexyz what are the NC and NC? |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: Non-commercial |
| 19:15 |
thexyz |
will wait for next version with ND |
| 19:15 |
NekoGloop |
(basically, that CC means you can share it, but only exactly as-is and with credit to me |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
and No-Derivatives |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, also install it on your server |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, hopefully we will get back servers with 0.4.4 and db |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, one sec. |
| 19:15 |
NakedFury |
ohh thanks |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
im lookin for it |
| 19:15 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: when are you planning to release it? |
| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
Noooo |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: done. |
| 19:17 |
NekoGloop |
or, make that CC-BY-NC-ND |
| 19:17 |
KikaRz |
did you restarted it? |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 19:17 |
KikaRz |
Nooo |
| 19:17 |
NekoGloop |
You can't touch my code. So go the fuck away. |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
personally i do like WTFPL |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
and added credits |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
i prefer fuck off open sourceists |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
waht the fuck public license ? |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
XD |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
my code: my rules |
| 19:18 |
NekoGloop |
my code = you cant have it |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
our community, our experience, our rules |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
and VanessaE's server takes forever |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
>:( |
| 19:19 |
NakedFury |
the only license to use should be my code use as you like with credits to me. no other |
| 19:20 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 already said, that minetest forums is biggest source of wtfpl contens |
| 19:20 |
RealBadAngel |
let us keep it this way |
| 19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
it can only help game to grow |
| 19:21 |
thexyz |
umm.. i guess i need to cast marktraceur right here |
| 19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
| 19:21 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Hi, what's up? |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
hes corporate guy |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
hes very aware of licences |
| 19:22 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: they don't like free licenses =( |
| 19:23 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: People who don't care to work on a proper licensing strategy are the bane of free culture. They make it so ultimately, when something is licensed improperly, *nobody* can use it because there's no licensing intent. |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
Mine will be lisenced properly |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
CC-BY-NC-ND |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
Perfectly proper lisence. |
| 19:23 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Use WTFPL if you want, just make sure your files have license information in them. |
| 19:23 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: It's better than "HEERS MAI MOD LOL WHAT A LICENSE" |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, coders that are workin for the community pays no shit to the licences. |
| 19:24 |
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| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: up. |
| 19:24 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: you mean, you're going to release new mod? |
| 19:24 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: And as a result, the community pays no shit to them. |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: perhaps |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
in fact, does anyone read the license> |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
I do |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
they givin their abilitiels, time, will to help the community |
| 19:25 |
NakedFury |
I do but never remember the initials or much about them after a few days |
| 19:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and have bill gates and other morons deep in the ass |
| 19:25 |
NekoGloop |
And my new lisence means that i can sue you for using my code. |
| 19:25 |
NakedFury |
should we have a new rule for mods that they must have a License.txt file included? |
| 19:26 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 19:26 |
RealBadAngel |
fuck the bill gates |
| 19:26 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: s/License.txt/COPYING/ |
| 19:26 |
* Jordach |
inserts hidden UTF-8 code to hide text |
| 19:27 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Also, the general rule is to include a header at the top of each file to make it clear that the file is under whatever license |
| 19:27 |
NakedFury |
I have seen that |
| 19:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i also |
| 19:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i deny this |
| 19:28 |
NakedFury |
mod name: by creator version number and usually after that license type |
| 19:28 |
mauvebic |
If theres going to be a rule about licenses on the forum, the sooner its made clear the better, rather than asking people to chose and then saying " i dont like that one" |
| 19:28 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: We aren't talking about restricting the licenses you can use, just how you can use them. |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
its about common sense |
| 19:28 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: There's a clear love of non-free things in this channel, your -NC-ND are safe. |
| 19:28 |
mauvebic |
well the licenses themselves arent really up to interpretation :-/ |
| 19:28 |
NekoGloop |
if you wanna make my mods split open to the public to rot however they see fit, then I wont let you. |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
if you took somethin say thanks |
| 19:29 |
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| 19:29 |
RealBadAngel |
thats all |
| 19:29 |
RealBadAngel |
that is our rule |
| 19:29 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, but the way you implement them is very open. If you say "NC-ND" but don't explicitly license each file that way, it can be confusing down the line if someone else contributed a file and didn't license it explicitly. |
| 19:29 |
* marktraceur |
isn't a lawyer, so it was hard to come up with a good example |
| 19:30 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: And leave our software totally outside of any future packaging efforts by real people? Sounds pretty stupid to me. |
| 19:30 |
RealBadAngel |
isnt a lawyer but talks as well trained one... |
| 19:30 |
mauvebic |
my understanding of NC ND is pretty that its free and must be distrubuted as-is without charge |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
lawyers would have fun with minetest |
| 19:30 |
marktraceur |
Debian, Fedora, etc., will all demand proper licensing before packaging this stuff. |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
i got one demand |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: I talk as a native English speaker, sorry if you confused that with a law school education |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
all the lawyers, please get the fuck out |
| 19:31 |
NekoGloop |
mauvebic: BY-NC-ND means you are credited, they cant make money with it, and they cant steal it |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
uh oh. server crash |
| 19:31 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: haha. |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
I hope not boats mod |
| 19:32 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Lawyers tend to look at forum rules telling them to GTFO as a perfect reason to not try to settle a case, and simply carry on suing you :) |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, im not native speaker |
| 19:32 |
mauvebic |
well im going strictly by what the creative commons site says about their own licenses lol |
| 19:32 |
thexyz |
ND is awful |
| 19:32 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: ND is fair |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no, that damn technic walking flashlight mod. |
| 19:32 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: To you, maybe, but not to your users :) |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
im just using nowadays latin |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
Well, then salve, RealBadAngel |
| 19:33 |
mauvebic |
well someone over at CC must have thought it was a fair free license |
| 19:33 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: I say "fuck you" to theives of my code. |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 19:33 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Don't release it, then. Don't masquerade as free culture, just compile the Lua and don't pretend you care |
| 19:33 |
mauvebic |
its not like the all the GPLs are easy to comply with either |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: sorry, but it's a damned mod ;-) |
| 19:33 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: yeah, point me to a way to do that. |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
you just said you dont care |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: query... |
| 19:34 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: luac |
| 19:34 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: `man luac` should explain |
| 19:34 |
thexyz |
you can decompile it though |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
as it's not "compiler" |
| 19:35 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: then i can sue you |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: I think the -s option will remove any useful information used for decompiling |
| 19:35 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: windows. |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: you can't if i don't distribute your mod |
| 19:35 |
marktraceur |
Oh, right, that would make sense |
| 19:35 |
mauvebic |
i dont see why someone should have to obfuscate their code to enforce the licensing, either you respect licensing or you dont |
| 19:36 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: -ND : you cant use the code |
| 19:36 |
NekoGloop |
so what good is it? |
| 19:36 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But why would you even bother sharing the code, if nobody can use it? |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: msg..... |
| 19:36 |
mauvebic |
you ignore one license, then everyone can ignore all of them |
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: i can't distribute derivative work |
| 19:36 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: decompiled is deriative: it is not precisely the same as it is distributed. |
| 19:36 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: https://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/ is your solution, includes luac |
| 19:36 |
moltenbot |
marktraceur's link: |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
moltenbot: That was SO HELPFUL. |
| 19:37 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur i shared a mod for a game, |
| 19:37 |
mauvebic |
youre confusing format with intention |
| 19:37 |
NekoGloop |
marktraceur: ikr |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, I mean |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: You shared it under the Creative Commons banner |
| 19:37 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But you clearly have no interest in letting those smelly free culture people anywhere near it |
| 19:38 |
thexyz |
i'd better ask marktraceur, can I use modified code (licensed under ND) without distributing it? |
| 19:38 |
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| 19:38 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It seems dishonest to me (not that I expect that to faze you) |
| 19:38 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: 100% yes |
| 19:38 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur not at all, id rather just chose who i share it with |
| 19:38 |
Muadtralk |
hmmmm i see no issues if its not distributed |
| 19:38 |
NekoGloop |
what good is it though? |
| 19:38 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: see? |
| 19:38 |
NekoGloop |
you cant use my code, any part of it |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I see. Can you relicense it to me under GPLv3, please? |
| 19:39 |
NekoGloop |
compiled or no. |
| 19:39 |
NakedFury |
if you guys have no intention of sharing dont waste everyones time and post in the forums |
| 19:39 |
mauvebic |
license wouldn't change |
| 19:39 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: I wish to have my mod used. But not stolen. |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: Legally, but there are all those awful thieves out there. Better protect yourself preemptively. |
| 19:39 |
thexyz |
why do you care? |
| 19:40 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: because it's my code |
| 19:40 |
thexyz |
you already said you don't care at all |
| 19:40 |
NekoGloop |
well then |
| 19:40 |
NekoGloop |
I guess you just dont get my mod |
| 19:40 |
NekoGloop |
Good day, sir. |
| 19:40 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But then you could sue anybody who worked on the project, so....you're basically saying that you've chosen who you want to share it with, and surprise, it's only yourself! |
| 19:41 |
Muadtralk |
can I not just replicate your mod from scratch slap some new textures on it give it a different name and bypass you entirely? |
| 19:41 |
Muadtralk |
just wondering. |
| 19:41 |
NekoGloop |
Muadtralk: nope |
| 19:41 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: Only if you aren't inspired by his mod. |
| 19:41 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: So don't look at it |
| 19:41 |
mauvebic |
you cant sue anyone without there being damages so i dont get the question |
| 19:41 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: The damages would be infringement of copyright. Where have you been for the past 50 years? |
| 19:41 |
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| 19:42 |
Muadtralk |
ive done several mods that ive never released because the day I am about to someone beats me to it :P |
| 19:42 |
mauvebic |
besides, no one is going to work on my mods, thats the whole point |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: flowing water should push the boats until they reach the apparent speed of the water. |
| 19:42 |
NekoGloop |
I say: fuck you, to all of the minetest community |
| 19:43 |
Muadtralk |
ah then why do you not go and play in the #minecraft community? |
| 19:43 |
Muadtralk |
you have an account yes? |
| 19:44 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: why? |
| 19:44 |
thexyz |
mauvebic: that's because they're under -ND |
| 19:44 |
Muadtralk |
he bought minecraft and its changed him |
| 19:45 |
NekoGloop |
I removed my mods before that. |
| 19:45 |
NekoGloop |
Simply because they were not wanted. |
| 19:45 |
Muadtralk |
I know you did |
| 19:45 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 19:45 |
NekoGloop |
And now, everyone is taking them. |
| 19:45 |
thexyz |
hm |
| 19:45 |
mauvebic |
well yeah im perfectly capable of working on my own mods, are people that out of ideas? |
| 19:45 |
thexyz |
so that's what's called "attention whoring", right? |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
Muadtralk - i find the alternative to be fajr |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: You said you wanted to choose who you shared them with, implying that you wanted to, but your later statements made it clear that it wasn't the case :) |
| 19:46 |
NakedFury |
we should be a sharing community built around this wonderful free game |
| 19:46 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: nope. |
| 19:46 |
thexyz |
why no? |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur im willing to sublicense portions of the code under the same conditions, i didnt chose the license because i thought i'd have teammates lol |
| 19:46 |
thexyz |
"nobody loves me, let's suicide" |
| 19:46 |
thexyz |
same situation |
| 19:46 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: perhaps, if they at least had their own little twist on it |
| 19:46 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: If you license the code under the same conditions, still nobody can work on it. |
| 19:47 |
Muadtralk |
the reason i have them on my server is cause i dont delete anything and the person who suggested them actually didnt know you deleted them |
| 19:47 |
mauvebic |
thats the point |
| 19:47 |
Muadtralk |
that is why i use your mods nekogloop |
| 19:47 |
mauvebic |
why would i sublicense my code if that person can circumvent the license? |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
Muadtralk: because you're too lazy to remove shit code/ |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: nope. |
| 19:47 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: So nobody will ever be able to work on it unless you decide to license it differently. Do you understand that? |
| 19:47 |
Muadtralk |
yep! |
| 19:47 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: well, it seems like that for me |
| 19:47 |
thexyz |
don't know about anybody else |
| 19:47 |
Muadtralk |
thats why my survival server had indestructable pickaxes |
| 19:47 |
mauvebic |
that was the goal |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
if people cant enjoy playing them then dont download 'em, im pretty laidback about it |
| 19:48 |
marktraceur |
Fair enough |
| 19:48 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: What are your mods? |
| 19:49 |
mauvebic |
nbu,mbbase,hdb |
| 19:49 |
mauvebic |
2 old ones from the previous pack |
| 19:49 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: None of that made any sense to me |
| 19:49 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: What do they do? |
| 19:49 |
Muadtralk |
isnt he the one with multinode and that cool madblocks stuff? |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, mauvebic is respectable coder |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
hdb: nodes, floors, wallpanels |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
show your achievements |
| 19:50 |
VanessaE |
Ok, what mod is it that turns lava+water into one of basalt, obsidian, or pumice (depending on which flows into which)? |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
nbu: 2k lines (lots of gadgets and nodeboxes) |
| 19:50 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: A competent one, maybe, but I can't respect someone who licenses his code with an aim of hurting his users. |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
dont ask him |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - dont keep adding in new mods |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
the server will break :P (100% cpu time) |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, youre best at talkin bout licences |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
21286 vanessa 20 0 332m 178m 3704 S 18 4.5 5:40.73 minetestserver |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
nothin more |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
you sure? :-) |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
the 18 = 18% CPU, which is about the average when the mapgen isn't causing it to lag. |
| 19:51 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, yes I will attempt a 0.4.4 build in the next few days |
| 19:51 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: That's why I'm employed as a software engineer at a top-ten website, then. Makes sense. |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
i personally cannot remind any piece of code made by you |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
so shut the fuck up |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
we dont need licences |
| 19:52 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: So what you're saying is, I must be totally incompetent because you haven't seen any code I've written? |
| 19:53 |
Muadtralk |
your the guy who wanted us to move everything to gitorious yes? |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
yup, youre still talkin bout licences just |
| 19:53 |
Muadtralk |
marktraceur? |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
not doin anythin |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
youre just full mouth |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
corporate one |
| 19:53 |
marktraceur |
Muadtralk: I was the guy who suggested it, yes. |
| 19:54 |
NakedFury |
come one dont start mud slinging |
| 19:54 |
OldCoder |
Corporate isn't mud |
| 19:54 |
OldCoder |
It is about philosophies |
| 19:54 |
RealBadAngel |
well |
| 19:55 |
RealBadAngel |
to be honest i know hes skilfull |
| 19:56 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: *We*, as in, this entire channel, are discussing the benefits and problems of licenses. |
| 19:56 |
RealBadAngel |
but pisses me off when starts talk bout licensing |
| 19:56 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: If someone was asking me about my code, I would be happy to reply. But nobody has. |
| 19:56 |
OldCoder |
Pros and cons |
| 19:56 |
* OldCoder |
scrolls up |
| 19:56 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: There are thousands of other channels, pick one. |
| 19:56 |
hmmmm |
i'm not sure how enforcable CC-NC-ND is |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, repull; better handling on laggy server added |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
for which, carts or boats? |
| 19:57 |
OldCoder |
Is there any further dispute? Perhaps not |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, i already said what im thinkin bout your code |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, boats |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 19:57 |
hmmmm |
i also don't like obsfucation in lua scripts |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
and you know it |
| 19:58 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: mauvebic and I are PMing, but in general it seems quiet on this front now. |
| 19:58 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: done. |
| 19:58 |
RealBadAngel |
you just refused my vision of open source |
| 19:58 |
hmmmm |
if it's not a rule already that .luac shouldn't be officially distributed by the minetest project, it should be |
| 19:58 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: Yes, but it's vital to the economy that we protect NekoGloop and mauvebic from malicious hackers who want to resell their code!!!! |
| 19:58 |
hmmmm |
not only because it's ethical, but there's a security concern too. |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
unethical rather |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
in fact i feel quite strongly about this |
| 19:59 |
hmmmm |
i'd like to bar pre-compiled Lua scripts from running in minetest if possible |
| 19:59 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: Yeah, but it won't happen |
| 19:59 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: We specifically relicensed to LGPL to allow it. |
| 20:00 |
hmmmm |
?? huh |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
no, we are WTFPL by choice |
| 20:00 |
hmmmm |
you mean the lua interpreter itself? |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
at least most of us |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hi |
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marktraceur |
hmmmm: I was against that, too, but this community doesn't want its users to be protected, it just wants to make cool things and carry on. |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
protected? |
| 20:01 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: No, Minetest is licensed under LGPL. |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
what the fuck youre talkin about? |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
we do not care bout copiers |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
we do grow |
| 20:01 |
hmmmm |
indeed, and what of it? i don't see how a LGPL license means you cannot add a technical restriction to not allow precompiled lua scripts |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
each and every day |
| 20:02 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: Well, for one thing, I think freedom 0 is looking a bit infringed if you do that |
| 20:02 |
hmmmm |
copiers need to attribute their derivative work to you if they do use CC, I don't really see how it's a problem.. |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
we do learn from others code |
| 20:02 |
hmmmm |
wait, LGPL 3.0 or 2.0? |
| 20:02 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: For another, GPL would have restricted a non-free mod from running based on Minetest, as I understood it, but LGPL was a compromise. |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
thats a point of Minetest being so great |
| 20:02 |
marktraceur |
I think 2.1 |
| 20:03 |
RealBadAngel |
youre 22 marktraceur, im almost 40 |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, you are a kid :p |
| 20:03 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Age is not directly proportional to intelligence. |
| 20:04 |
RealBadAngel |
youre just ignonorant |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, seek consensus |
| 20:04 |
RealBadAngel |
to the world of minetest |
| 20:04 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: If you have to resort to ad hominem attacks to invalidate my point, then you have no real base for your argument. |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
What do the two of you have in common? |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
Where do you disagree? |
| 20:04 |
OldCoder |
That is what to look for |
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OldCoder |
iqualfragile, Hello |
| 20:05 |
RealBadAngel |
he wants to copyright all |
| 20:05 |
iqualfragile |
moin oldcoder |
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hmmmm |
I am not really sure how the LGPL fits in with an application at all |
| 20:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i deny copyright anything |
| 20:05 |
hmmmm |
it certainly doesn't have the effect that was intended.... |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you just pinged out of your own server?!? |
| 20:05 |
hmmmm |
it quite clearly says "Library" and gives a definition of that |
| 20:05 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I signed off. From my perspective, I saw a boat driving around on its own and you were standing off at the end of the lake. |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
23900 vanessa 20 0 266m 72m 2648 S 11 1.8 1:11.10 minetestserver |
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marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Not saying anything about copyright isn't denying copyright. You have to actively say that you release something into the public domain to deny copyright, and you haven't done that anywhere. |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
11% and RTT = 0.0.0 means the server is NOT LAGGING. |
| 20:06 |
iqualfragile |
boat? |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
iqualfragile: boat. |
| 20:06 |
iqualfragile |
where i get boat? |
| 20:06 |
hmmmm |
I have read terms #0 and #1 |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/boats |
| 20:06 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: PilzAdam/boats ? GitHub |
| 20:06 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, what was it C55 was saying to you recently about the RTT code? I can play with that shortly |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
im sayin it now in front of all |
| 20:07 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: nothing that should theoretically matter in this case. With a RTT of flat out zero I should not see even the tiniest amount of lag. |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
all my work is public |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
free to use |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, are you saying I don't need to modify that code? |
| 20:07 |
hmmmm |
my understanding of the LGPL is this: you have a GPL-ish library, but it can be used by closed-source software. the library itself's source must be available though |
| 20:07 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: correct - it won't help anyway. |
| 20:08 |
hmmmm |
any modifications to the LGPL'd library that is |
| 20:08 |
OldCoder |
No? |
| 20:08 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, are you saying 0.4.4 has improved the issue? |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: no, except that there are config tweaks related to those settings. |
| 20:09 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Sadly I don't think the courts will think to look at the 2012-12-09 logs of #minetest. You need to include the unambiguous statement of "I release this into the public domain", possibly using CC-Zero, in all of your work. |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
# Congestion control parameters |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
# time in seconds, rate in ~500B packets |
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VanessaE |
#congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
#congestion_control_max_rate = 400 |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
#congestion_control_min_rate = 10 |
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VanessaE |
in the server's minetest.conf |
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RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, i have courts deep inside. HOWGH |
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marktraceur |
? |
| 20:10 |
marktraceur |
What? |
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RealBadAngel |
they can kiss my ass |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, where are these tweaks? |
| 20:10 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
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OldCoder |
I see them ty |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: as above :-) |
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marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: They will, after they take your money and any pants you have on at the time as punitive damages. |
| 20:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, should I add those now? Or do they need 0.4.4 ? |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: they need 0.4.4 I think. |
| 20:11 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
15:09:40: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <KikaRz> tell VanessaE to enter the server |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
I'm busy :-) |
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* marktraceur |
goes away for a while |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
marktraceur, live a few years more on this world |
| 20:11 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: If you want to pretend that you live in a world where courts and laws don't matter, fine. |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
not everythin here is like in the books |
| 20:12 |
RealBadAngel |
youre just too young to understand |
| 20:12 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Bite my firm 22-year-old ass, you unrealistic bastard. |
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RealBadAngel |
im beatin you with almost 20 years |
| 20:12 |
marktraceur |
Sorry, I missed an adjective |
| 20:13 |
marktraceur |
Add in "ageist". |
| 20:13 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, I don't think he is showing you disrespect |
| 20:13 |
RealBadAngel |
neither do i |
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OldCoder |
And remember... I am nearly as much older than you as you are than him! |
| 20:13 |
RealBadAngel |
hes just too young |
| 20:13 |
artur99 |
how to plant coffee, habanero, peas, tomato seeds? |
| 20:13 |
OldCoder |
This is all fine. Look for where you agree and disagree |
| 20:14 |
OldCoder |
artur99 has a question |
| 20:14 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps we can focus on that |
| 20:14 |
RealBadAngel |
i can agree to that |
| 20:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and stop |
| 20:14 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Actually, I'd like to make another request: Please mute RealBadAngel for his rampant and unapologetic discrimination based on age. Thanks for your consideration. |
| 20:14 |
RealBadAngel |
haha again |
| 20:14 |
OldCoder |
It is considered but appears to be unnecessary. Policy is to encourage you to /IGNORE him. |
| 20:15 |
marktraceur |
So noted. |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
But it may not be needed |
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OldCoder |
I feel |
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artur99 |
??? |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
There may be common ground |
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* marktraceur |
invites others to /ignore RealBadAngel. |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
artur99, wait |
| 20:15 |
RealBadAngel |
sure |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, RealBadAngel would either of you like to help artur99 ? |
| 20:15 |
artur99 |
im waiting... |
| 20:15 |
marktraceur |
artur99: IIRC farming+ requires you to till some dirt before planting |
| 20:16 |
artur99 |
what is iirc? |
| 20:16 |
marktraceur |
artur99: Craft a hoe, put it in your hand, and left-click some dirt. Then right-click the seeds into the ground. |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
artur99, it means... |
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VanessaE |
If I Recall Correctly. |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
If I Remember Correctly |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Both |
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artur99 |
aha |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Fair enough |
| 20:17 |
artur99 |
and how long time is taking to grow? |
| 20:17 |
artur99 |
*to grow up? |
| 20:18 |
marktraceur |
artur99: It's random, so it could be any amount |
| 20:18 |
marktraceur |
artur99: The more you plant, the faster it'll happen (on average) :) |
| 20:18 |
artur99 |
aha |
| 20:19 |
artur99 |
thanks |
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thexyz |
sfan5: you here? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
have you tried https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/344 ? |
| 20:40 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: freetype2, .ttf fonts and basic unicode support by xyzz ? Pull Request #344 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
it should work fine |
| 20:41 |
sfan5 |
but.. windows builds with freetype? |
| 20:41 |
thexyz |
what's the question? |
| 20:42 |
thexyz |
you can build it for windows with freetype support, but this is somewhat tricky |
| 20:42 |
sfan5 |
if the buildbot isn't updated for freetype, how would you cross-compile win builds with freetype |
| 20:43 |
thexyz |
i only build it using MSVC |
| 20:43 |
thexyz |
just configure it manually |
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sfan5 |
ok |
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sfan5 |
http://i.imgur.com/voVFf.png |
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PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
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Jordach |
im heading off to bed now |
| 21:02 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, VanessaE, OldCoder, #minetest, have a good day |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
night,... |
| 21:02 |
VanessaE |
er.. |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4019 |
| 21:03 |
moltenbot |
VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Blocks [gloopblocks] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 21:03 |
VanessaE |
BAM! |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
Bye Jordach |
| 21:09 |
VanessaE |
ok, that's two down (gloopblocks, ores). Tool sizes later after I get back from running a couple of errands. |
| 21:15 |
Muadtralk |
you need toolsizes? |
| 21:15 |
Muadtralk |
i have it |
| 21:15 |
thexyz |
http://mods.minetest.ru/toolsizes/ |
| 21:15 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Index of /toolsizes/ |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
I have it, I just need to write up a good post for it. |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
bbl for real now :-) |
| 21:18 |
iqualfragile |
bbl? |
| 21:19 |
thexyz |
iqualfragile: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-09#i_2702908 |
| 21:19 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-09 |
| 21:20 |
iqualfragile |
cool |
| 21:20 |
iqualfragile |
should add a slang-translate-function to my bot |
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OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hi |
| 21:34 |
babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE? Where did you gone? and everyone? |
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marktraceur |
VanessaE: Any suggestions re: Congestion settings? |
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* OldCoder |
will rest for a while |
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KikaRz |
VanessaE ? |
| 21:58 |
KikaRz |
PilzAdam, i enhanced more the circuit (water) |
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Octupus |
Hi |
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KikaRz |
Hi octupus |
| 22:10 |
KikaRz |
i made a boat race |
| 22:11 |
Octupus |
Cool KikaRz |
| 22:12 |
KikaRz |
exclusive in VanessaE's server. |
| 22:16 |
babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
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Octupus |
Hi babyface1031 |
| 22:18 |
cisoun |
Is sdzen here ? |
| 22:24 |
marktraceur |
cisoun: He's Muadtralk in here, just left |
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KikaRz |
bye guys |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
kisses |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
good night, |
| 22:25 |
KikaRz |
tomorrow i have much to do. |
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Octupus |
Is every1 dead? |
| 22:57 |
MiJyn |
yes |
| 22:57 |
MiJyn |
lol |
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babyface1031 |
it hs been very quite today |
| 23:09 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 23:09 |
NakedFury |
welcome back |
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cy1 |
HOLY SHIT 3D AVATARS |
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cisoun |
for french readers : http://linuxfr.org/news/minetest-des-cubes-et-des-hommes |
| 23:40 |
moltenbot |
cisoun's link: Minetest : des cubes et des hommes - LinuxFr.org |
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* VanessaE |
is back. |
| 23:46 |
Octupus |
Hi VanessaE |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
hey hey |
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