Time Nick Message 00:00 KikaRz going to sleep 00:00 KikaRz byee 00:00 KikaRz Only one more last definition 00:00 KikaRz !define cookies 00:00 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: cookie definition: a small flat or slightly raised cake. 00:00 KikaRz *_* 00:00 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 00:01 OldCoder VanessaE, is there a recommended set of mods? 00:01 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ ls -m .minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/ 00:01 VanessaE 3dforniture, add_moreores_tool, bobblocks, bucket, campfire, carts, conifers, 00:01 VanessaE default, doors, dye, farming, fire, gloopores, habitat, hatches, homedecor, 00:01 VanessaE jungletree, legacy, locked_sign, maptools, mese_starter_kit, 00:01 VanessaE minetest-mod-jumping, minetest-mod-mesecons, moreblocks, moreores, particles, 00:01 VanessaE pipeworks, plantlife, player_textures, sethome, signs, stairs, stairsplus, 00:01 VanessaE technic, unifiedbricks, unifieddyes, unified_inventory, vessels, wool, 00:01 VanessaE workbench, worldedit, xdoors2, xpanes 00:01 VanessaE I use all of those :-) 00:01 OldCoder k 00:02 OldCoder VanessaE, If I run this; visit later and use Places to record your places 00:02 VanessaE the house in particular takes from technic, stairsplus, homedecor, moreblocks, and others. 00:02 OldCoder k 00:02 OldCoder VanessaE, any chance of uploading a ZIP of your _game folder? 00:02 VanessaE sure, sec. 00:02 OldCoder That will be much easier 00:03 KikaRz uh Vanessa 00:03 VanessaE uploading... 00:03 KikaRz got a problem 00:03 KikaRz [ 32%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/main.cpp.o 00:03 KikaRz Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest 00:03 KikaRz CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/server.cpp.o: file not recognized: File truncated 00:03 KikaRz collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 00:03 KikaRz make[2]: *** [bin/minetest] Error 1 00:03 KikaRz make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/all] Error 2 00:03 KikaRz make: *** [all] Error 2 00:04 VanessaE KikaRz: sounds like your minetest sources got trashed when the computer locked up. 00:04 VanessaE git pull -f 00:04 VanessaE then compile again 00:04 VanessaE OldCoder: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip 00:04 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 00:05 VanessaE OldCoder: I'm not 100% content with the floor plan of that house, I'm not sure it's correct to scale/shape.. but it's damn close if not :-) 00:05 OldCoder VanessaE, a copy of the world will be displayed on my servers. If I don't grant people interact then it can be updated later with new versions of your original. You must come and state places. 00:05 OldCoder Zeg9 made a mod for this 00:05 OldCoder You can add places to your inventory 00:06 OldCoder Sudi, Hi 00:06 VanessaE cool 00:07 VanessaE OldCoder: OH, that world runs a modified version of default/init.lua where I changed how mese behaves 00:08 VanessaE (it's included in that game zip) 00:08 OldCoder VanessaE, got it 00:08 OldCoder I'll modify my scripts to take that into account 00:08 VanessaE I made mese act like a regular ore - mine it to drop mese lumps, smelt those to ingots, craft those to mese pick or craft stone + mese lump back to mese ore for use with old mods. 00:08 OldCoder Consider my copy to be a mirror for now 00:08 OldCoder Copying that text 00:08 VanessaE OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/60 00:08 moltenbot VanessaE's link: Changed Mese object to be more consistent with other ores (see below). by VanessaE ? Pull Request #60 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub 00:08 VanessaE htse are the changes. 00:09 VanessaE these* 00:09 OldCoder k 00:09 OldCoder Copied into file 00:09 OldCoder Useful in general? ^ VanessaE 00:09 OldCoder Should I make this patch for everybody? 00:09 VanessaE I don't know 00:09 OldCoder What might it break? Sounds reasonable 00:09 VanessaE I am not sure if a world created or modified with that change in place will revert properly if the change is undone 00:10 OldCoder All right 00:10 OldCoder We'll wait then 00:10 OldCoder Just for your world 00:10 VanessaE worst case? mapgen'd mese will turn to unknown blocks until more is generated elsewhere. 00:10 OldCoder k 00:12 VanessaE now I just gotta get c55 to pull that update so I can make HDX textures to follow. 00:19 VanessaE OldCoder: damn. it's a one-way conversion. Worldedit would be needed to revert the changes. 00:19 OldCoder VanessaE, don't worry about it 00:19 VanessaE I just tried a copy using an unmodified default/init.lua and mese turns to unknown blocks 00:19 VanessaE oh well. 00:19 OldCoder If the change is useful it can be part of your world permanently 00:19 VanessaE it s. 00:19 VanessaE is. 00:19 OldCoder I will copy your world and maintain the copy 00:20 OldCoder Indicate when you wish to update it 00:20 VanessaE it makes mese finally behave like a mineral. 00:20 OldCoder So discussion should take place about using it elsewhere 00:20 TANKERx64 thisisaverylongsentencewithoutspacesanditmightannoyalotofpeopletoseethis. 00:20 OldCoder ? 00:20 VanessaE heh 00:25 TANKERx64 mewo 00:25 OldCoder mewo? 00:25 VanessaE dyslexic kitty car? 00:25 VanessaE cat* 00:55 TANKERx64 http://imgur.com/gallery/mfquR 00:55 moltenbot TANKERx64's link: CAKE DAY BITCH! HAVE SOME CAKE - Imgur 01:13 VanessaE meow. 01:14 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk 01:14 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube 01:14 NekoGloop Well i appear to be psychotic tonight 01:14 NekoGloop this oughta be fun 01:14 NekoGloop :3 01:14 VanessaE wanna see my house implemented in minetest? :-) 01:15 NekoGloop i think i may have already seen it, but show me anyhow 01:15 VanessaE you can't have, I just built it earlier today :-) 01:15 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 01:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: some lag, I'm using worldedit to do some maintenance. 01:24 NekoGloop GOOD GOD 01:24 NekoGloop youtube, calm thyself. 01:24 VanessaE give it time. I was stupid and ran the //dig command instead of using //set air :-) 01:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: those are the same 01:25 VanessaE er, no it ain't :-) 01:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: better to //replace the blocks you are targeting individually 01:25 VanessaE //dig actually goes through the process of digging blocks so the light recalculates. 01:25 VanessaE //set air doesn't :-) 01:25 NekoGloop Are you killing my 20 dollahs? 01:25 VanessaE there we go, that's done. 01:26 VanessaE naw, just clearing out some excess cobble. 01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server... 01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server... 01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server... 01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server... 01:26 NekoGloop connecting to server... 01:26 VanessaE I think I crashed it :D 01:27 NekoGloop Oh, i have to share this 01:27 VanessaE hang on, lemme restart it 01:27 NekoGloop In my college class, our teacher asked what a typeface was. 01:27 NekoGloop Me, being the smartalleck i am, said "it's when you type with your face" 01:27 NekoGloop He, then, banged his head on his keyboard 01:28 VanessaE there. I'll show that fucker who's boss. 01:28 NekoGloop Everyone in the class laughed for a good minute. 01:28 NekoGloop VanessaE: read above. :3 01:29 VanessaE lol 01:38 TANKERx64 meep 01:43 davidpace Is there any way for me to automatically log-in everytime I visit this site? 01:43 VanessaE davidpace: depends on your IRC client, which at present looks to be the web chat 01:43 VanessaE programs like Xchat or mIRC can auto-login to a channel on startup 01:43 davidpace It is webchat 01:47 NekoGloop say hello... to slenderman... http://ompldr.org/vZ21mOA 01:47 davidpace What is this? 01:48 davidpace ohhhhh 01:48 davidpace okay :) 01:48 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ21mYQ 01:48 VanessaE eucchhh... default 16px textures :-) 01:49 NekoGloop VanessaE: I know. Too bad my texture pack is even worse :s 01:49 VanessaE heh 01:49 VanessaE use my 64px HDX and all will be right with the world ;-) 01:49 NekoGloop no it wont 01:49 NekoGloop because then my computer will have a heart attack 01:50 VanessaE even with 64px? 01:50 NekoGloop even with 32px 01:51 VanessaE try anyway - even my anemic little laptop can handle 64px and still be playable :-) 01:56 davidpace I'd have to say VE's HDX Textures are the best I've seen yet :-) 01:56 davidpace Those, and MineToons 01:56 VanessaE :D 01:57 NekoGloop why can no one appreciate old-school :s 01:57 cy1 hello NekoGloop 01:57 NekoGloop gtfo 01:57 VanessaE hey cy 01:58 NekoGloop F10 01:58 NekoGloop also known as the logout button 01:58 VanessaE kah--rash! 01:58 VanessaE :-) 01:58 davidpace I appreciate "old-school". Its just not as good as VanessaE's and Gambits Texture Packs :) 01:58 davidpace My Personal Opinnion though 01:59 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk 01:59 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube 01:59 VanessaE that's an opinion I can agree with ;) 01:59 NekoGloop kill the bot pls 01:59 NekoGloop i cant troll if this thing is here 01:59 VanessaE haha 01:59 davidpace :-) 01:59 NekoGloop tis a good song though 02:00 NekoGloop ignore the strange title. 02:00 davidpace Too Late 02:00 davidpace ;-) 02:00 NekoGloop hm? 02:01 davidpace Nevermind 02:01 davidpace I'll listen to it though 02:02 davidpace O_o Strange music 02:02 davidpace Strange lyrics O_o 02:03 NekoGloop ... huh, woulda thought you'd say something about the picture 02:03 NekoGloop what is strange about it though? 02:03 davidpace Strange picture O_o 02:04 NekoGloop There, now you've covered all your bases. 02:04 davidpace Its Just not the kinda music I listen to. 02:04 NekoGloop heh. 02:04 NekoGloop I'm morbid today, can you tell? 02:04 davidpace Don't really like songs about girls burning in flames O_o 02:05 NekoGloop not girls burning in flames 02:05 davidpace Its what it sounds like 02:05 NekoGloop -pictures- of girls burning in a fire 02:05 davidpace Oh fine 02:05 VanessaE *groan* 02:06 NekoGloop "I will burn in a fire photographs of your desire" 02:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: wat? 02:06 davidpace VE You like it? O_o? 02:06 VanessaE certainly not.. 02:06 VanessaE I am not into weird stuff like that. 02:06 NekoGloop she hasnt even listened to it 02:06 VanessaE I don't need to :-) 02:06 VanessaE I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-) 02:07 arm44 who else has notoriety: Forever alone on imgur, show of hands? 02:07 VanessaE not me. I use my own webspace for that. 02:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: let's just say it's about jealousy of a morbid girl. 02:07 davidpace Did I miss your answer VE? 02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] I don't need to :-) 02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] * davidpace has quit (Quit: Page closed) 02:07 VanessaE [12-08 21:07] I got all the info I needed from your commentary :-) 02:07 davidpace My Router disconnected 02:07 arm44 VanessaE, you can't correct someone when they're WRONG ON THE INTERNET on your own webspace 02:08 VanessaE true. :-) 02:08 NekoGloop everything is wrong on the internet 02:08 davidpace Not minetest? 02:08 davidpace O_O 02:08 arm44 if anyone's wondering, they limit your ability to downvote, and you don't auto-upvote your own comments anymore 02:08 NekoGloop some things are more "OMFG WAT IZ THIZZZ CREEEPPEEHHHH" 02:09 davidpace uhhhh 02:09 davidpace wtf? 02:09 NekoGloop xD 02:09 NekoGloop blame the painkillers. 02:09 NekoGloop it works for me :P 02:09 davidpace uhhhhhh 02:09 arm44 NekoGloop, taken for what? 02:09 VanessaE haha 02:09 NekoGloop <== broken foot 02:09 arm44 sure, sure 02:09 NekoGloop i can blame the painkillers despite the fact i take like nothing all day AND I'M FINE. 02:10 arm44 did you break it playing football? 02:10 NekoGloop arm44: no. 02:10 NekoGloop You kidding, if i played football i wouldnt still be able to type 02:10 arm44 what then, Ultimate Tennis? Arcade Volleyball? 02:10 davidpace I have a question for you NekoGloop 02:10 NekoGloop davidpace: yes? 02:10 VanessaE arm44: he's always trippin', that's how :D 02:11 NekoGloop VanessaE: was just gonna say that 02:11 VanessaE ninja'd :-) 02:11 davidpace Why did you post the link for that "scary" song about jealous girls burning in fire? 02:11 NekoGloop davidpace: go on. 02:11 arm44 VanessaE, i find it scary that your doctors prescribe Oxycodin. Who doesn't get hooked up on heroin? 02:11 NekoGloop davidpace: nonono 02:11 VanessaE arm44: actually doctors here are reluctant to do so usually. 02:11 NekoGloop the "jealous one" is the one singing. 02:11 davidpace Yes, and she was burning! 02:11 NekoGloop nope 02:11 davidpace Wait... 02:12 VanessaE arm44: more commonly vicodin, which ain't too different 02:12 arm44 VanessaE, still (and depending on a doctor) 02:12 davidpace I have to go for a few mins brb 02:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'm allergic to vicodin. I have moltrin. 02:12 VanessaE heh 02:12 NekoGloop which is like doing nothing, because I'm not taking it 02:12 VanessaE most of that shit doesn't work on me anyway 02:12 VanessaE just give me WEED. 02:13 NekoGloop because I dont have to take it 02:13 NekoGloop XD 02:13 * VanessaE <- bad arthritis :( 02:13 marktraceur Anyone else getting errors on 0.4.4? 02:13 marktraceur 18:24:30: ERROR[main]: Some exception: "basic_string::_S_create" 02:13 * NekoGloop <- allergic to cardboard. yeah. 02:13 marktraceur Also just plain ol' segfault 02:13 VanessaE marktraceur: the only errors I commonly see are attachment errors, but nothing in the lots 02:13 VanessaE logs* 02:13 arm44 marktraceur, teleporters crash mt1.gameboom.net 02:13 arm44 or is that 0.4.3? 02:14 marktraceur arm44: This server doesn't have teleporters, and my client's crashing, not the server 02:14 NekoGloop I have like no antiallergins in my body whatsoever... 02:14 arm44 marktraceur, weird 02:14 NekoGloop or whatever the things that make you not have an allergy to something are. 02:14 NekoGloop idk 02:14 NekoGloop dont ask me. 02:14 arm44 NekoGloop, who else then? 02:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: that's what we call the Loratadine abe takes for his cat allergy (yes.) 02:15 NekoGloop arm44: wikipedia 02:15 arm44 sounds like you should be the expert 02:15 NekoGloop VanessaE: Seems legit 02:15 arm44 VanessaE, are you forcing your cat-alergic husband to live with a cat? 02:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: it sucks :-/ 02:15 VanessaE arm44: actually he's forcing himself - because we both love our kitties :-) 02:16 arm44 if you say so... 02:16 arm44 then again, i wouldn't live with them anyway 02:16 VanessaE why? 02:16 arm44 they're bastards, and i don't find it cute 02:16 VanessaE ours are just nutz but they're both very loving 02:17 NekoGloop arm44: OI! 02:17 VanessaE especially Jeannie. she just can't get enough attention :-) 02:17 arm44 NekoGloop, oi? 02:17 VanessaE Cookie is a holy terror :-) 02:17 NekoGloop arm44: DIE 02:17 VanessaE (and is in her aloof phase now) 02:17 arm44 NekoGloop, how about your cats die? 02:17 * NekoGloop dies 02:17 arm44 VanessaE, i really don't care, sorry 02:18 VanessaE arm44: jeez why so much hate? 02:18 NekoGloop Neko = Cat 02:18 arm44 i actually 02:18 arm44 VanessaE, apart from disliking bastards, i'm also alergic to child-hating catlovers 02:18 VanessaE "child-hating cat lovers"? huh? 02:18 VanessaE o.O 02:19 NekoGloop ... wat 02:19 NekoGloop arm44: Neko = Cat. So shove your complaints over to #minecraft. pls 02:19 arm44 people who seem to like animals (cats in particular, because they're bastards, so it's even more bewildering) more than people 02:20 VanessaE ok, lemme trim that down...."child-hating"? 02:20 arm44 VanessaE, yes, they then proceed to be annoyed by children being children all the while considering animals their children 02:21 arm44 it's disgusting and unnatural 02:21 VanessaE I dunno what you're on about...there'no child hate here. 02:21 VanessaE there's 02:21 arm44 not to flaunt that word around 02:21 NekoGloop arm44: cornernote, leave us now 02:21 arm44 VanessaE, when i see a young couple walking a dog, i am appalled 02:21 arm44 *only a dog 02:22 VanessaE arm44: ok, so a couple like Abe and I who can neither have children at all nor can legally adopt shall be forced to have no such companions? 02:22 arm44 basically, people replace children with animals, and it's repulsive. but i said that already 02:22 VanessaE (not to mention the financial outlay which we are incapable of supplying) 02:22 arm44 VanessaE, why aren't you legally able to adopt? 02:22 NekoGloop arm44: leave. now. 02:23 arm44 NekoGloop, shut up. now. 02:23 VanessaE arm44: because I'm sterile. 02:23 NakedFury im back again! 02:23 NekoGloop arm44: go to #peoplelovinganimalhaters 02:23 VanessaE wb NakedFury 02:23 NekoGloop arm44: or shut up 02:23 NakedFury thank you. was watching batman trilogy 02:24 arm44 VanessaE, how does that prevent you from adopting? 02:24 VanessaE arm44: that's the not-having children part, sorry. 02:24 VanessaE the not-adopting part is too personal and complicated for discussion here. 02:24 arm44 ok 02:25 arm44 VanessaE, anyway, i obviously don't mind you keeping animals, and hope you enjoy them. 02:25 arm44 it's the people who put them before people who i'm talking about. 02:25 arm44 *was. will cease 02:25 VanessaE arm44: we enjoy their company and their antics and they clearly enjoy our company... but wee the problem is in your primary statement: 02:26 VanessaE "when i see a young couple walking [only] a dog, i am appalled" 02:26 VanessaE and yet, how are you to know what their capabilities are in regards to rearing children (assuming they can have/adopt any) 02:26 arm44 VanessaE, because i'm a capabilitist, and assume they're capable :-) 02:26 VanessaE better to assume the opposite in this case. 02:27 VanessaE if a couple adopts a pet first, it's probably because they don't believe they can handle children 02:27 arm44 i'm sorry, but i'm sure the majority is capable 02:27 VanessaE depends on where you are. 02:27 VanessaE do you have kids? 02:27 arm44 nope 02:27 arm44 not married 02:28 arm44 VanessaE, actually, i guess they could be a boyfriend and a girlfriend, but i got an impression they were married. maybe just jumped to conclusions 02:28 arm44 *could've been 02:28 VanessaE then you have NO idea just how expensive it is. 02:28 arm44 i have ciblings though 02:28 arm44 *siblings 02:29 VanessaE who have children of their own? 02:29 arm44 and we were poor 02:29 arm44 so i do know 02:29 arm44 how it can still work out 02:29 NekoGloop did you know that on average, a child costs upwards of $200 grand a MONTH? 02:29 NekoGloop er, year 02:29 NekoGloop damn you fingers. 02:29 arm44 heh 02:30 NekoGloop tiiiiime to listen to a different song as well 02:30 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's worse than that - closer to 1.5 million over 18 years if you want the child to grow up with the full opportunities, education, etc. that they deserve. At least in the US. 02:30 arm44 we lived off of... 200 a month 02:30 VanessaE arm44: where? 02:30 VanessaE Haiti? 02:31 arm44 VanessaE, europe. 02:31 VanessaE europe. 02:31 arm44 europe. 02:31 VanessaE different economy, different opportunities. 02:31 arm44 more opportunities in US 02:31 NekoGloop lolnope 02:31 VanessaE average pay there at the time was probably somewhere in the $500 US/mo range if I guess right. 02:31 arm44 yep 02:32 arm44 VanessaE, i highly doubt that 02:32 VanessaE here? median income is a bit over $2000/mo and you can't live on that in some states. 02:32 arm44 this was poor even for us 02:32 VanessaE wait, make that $4000-odd 02:32 arm44 the average was 6 times that 02:32 VanessaE (and you *still* can't live in some places on that :-) ) 02:32 arm44 well, from what i gathered 02:32 arm44 3 times * 2 parents working 02:33 NekoGloop 2 parents, 1 kid 02:33 arm44 and there's 5 of us, so other families are smaller 02:33 VanessaE Between Abe and I, we make a little under $2000/mo, and we had to settle in a fairly cheap area to be able to make ends meet. Children? Never gonna happen even if the physiological problems didn't exist. 02:33 NekoGloop we ~barely~ live on what we make 02:33 arm44 plus we had no uncles/aunts or much relatives who could've helped us out. 02:34 arm44 basically, trust me, in the poverty game, we win 02:34 NekoGloop arm44: seriously, go away. 02:34 VanessaE arm44: try supporting two people on US $940 a month in FLORIDA. 02:35 NekoGloop arm44: minetest channel. minetest is the topic. talk about MINETEST. 02:35 arm44 NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly 02:35 arm44 or "something honest" 02:35 VanessaE ahem. 02:35 NekoGloop what was that>? 02:35 arm44 NekoGloop, you should seriously shut your mouth before I tell you something honestly 02:35 arm44 or "something honest" 02:36 NekoGloop i dont believe i heard you, what was that? 02:36 NekoGloop "I wanna be banned"? 02:36 arm44 so, when does NekoGloop get kicked? 02:36 VanessaE now are you gonna cut out the virtual dick waving or do I need to make that a little more permanent? 02:36 arm44 there must be some rules i'm not aware of 02:37 NekoGloop arm44: yeah, I'm not assaulting anyone 02:37 arm44 NekoGloop, who did I insult? 02:37 arm44 VanessaE, ask Bad_Command if I respond well to threats 02:37 NekoGloop arm44: everyone with a pet and no child 02:37 NekoGloop arm44: and every catlover. 02:37 arm44 arm44, not at all 02:38 VanessaE not that that will hold for long because of his bouncer. 02:38 NekoGloop did he just talk to himself? 02:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZiSpmgsXo :3 02:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: UTAU??????Bad Apple!!??????Kasane Teto - YouTube 02:39 NekoGloop lol. bot cant understand japanese. 02:39 VanessaE lol 02:40 NekoGloop give it some lessons, iqual! 02:40 NakedFury I still dont understand why people bring their egos and pride and macho atitude to the internet chat 02:40 VanessaE so instead of having to parse 40 or so characters, you want it to parse some 2000 or so? :-) 02:40 NekoGloop heh 02:40 NekoGloop japanese doesnt have -that- many 02:41 NekoGloop closer to 1600~ 02:41 VanessaE just kidding :-) 02:41 NekoGloop NakedFury: because they are dickheads? 02:41 NakedFury well if you do japanese then do russian, french, russian, etc 02:41 NakedFury go all the way 02:41 NekoGloop well japanese for the channel that gets more japanese links :> 02:41 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlKwFPvwQs 02:41 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?????/Namine Ritsu] Bad Apple!!?UTAU???? - YouTube 02:41 NekoGloop like that one./ 02:42 NekoGloop bah. not bad enough my foot is clumsy, now my fingers too? 02:43 NekoGloop i hate the new youtube layout. :< 02:45 NekoGloop aaaaand i'm rambling again with noone listening. 02:46 aluminum-foil-ta hi people! 02:46 NekoGloop wb 02:48 * VanessaE restores OldCoder from the backup. 02:48 VanessaE haha 02:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: don't feel bad, I have more bad days than good ones anymore where typing is concerned. 02:49 NekoGloop Meow. 02:49 Muadtralk wow thats alot of question marks 02:49 VanessaE there's a reason my responses are getting slow lately. I have to spend about half my time correcting typos and/or stopping to think about which letter to hit. 02:50 Muadtralk yes nekogloop i do believe this bot should be prepared for these links 02:50 VanessaE Muadtralk: make it transliterate them if possible. 02:50 BackupCoder Hi 02:50 VanessaE at least we would be able to get some vague idea of what it says then ;-) 02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, Heh 02:51 VanessaE I never said it was permanent... 02:51 NakedFury ohhh we got more of the Coder family 02:51 VanessaE OldCoder: please review the past hour of channel activity. Do you agree with my action in this regard? 02:51 TANKERx64 JELLO 02:52 NekoGloop TANKERx64: PIE 02:52 OldCoder VanessaE, reviewing 02:52 OldCoder NakedFury, He is a test 02:52 NakedFury ahh thought it was a friend or family member 02:53 VanessaE TANKERx64: Pi? http://dollarstoremom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/pi-pie.jpg 02:53 VanessaE :-) 02:53 NekoGloop lol 02:53 VanessaE saw that on abe's facebook page earlier today :-) 02:53 TANKERx64 ohgosh 02:53 VanessaE cutest version of the motif I've seen in a while 02:54 Muadtralk ack 02:54 Muadtralk im slipping 02:54 Muadtralk mixed up the 6 and 2 02:55 Muadtralk 3.1415962 02:55 Muadtralk dang it 02:55 * OldCoder sighs 02:55 OldCoder VanessaE, om 02:55 VanessaE take your time. 02:56 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdPXL1cJq8 02:56 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ??7?MMD????Bad Apple!! feat.Miku Hatsune & Kasane Teto - YouTube 02:56 OldCoder VanessaE, Did NekoGloop ask him to stop speaking to him? Technically NekoGloop could /ignore but a kick is equally justified. Is this correct under community standards? NekoGloop could /ignore but other person can be warned instead. So kick was a warn instead of an /ignore. Does this cover it? 02:57 NekoGloop I cant /ignore 02:57 NekoGloop remember? doesnt work thru webchat 02:57 OldCoder Oh? Why not? Then kick is justified. 02:57 OldCoder If this is explained 02:57 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required 02:57 NekoGloop [21:58] == IGNORE Unknown command 02:57 OldCoder That is my suggestion for a rule 02:58 OldCoder Recommend /ignore but... 02:58 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required 02:58 OldCoder Does this make sense? 02:58 VanessaE I never use /ignore if I can avoid it, lest I miss something that may later be important 02:58 OldCoder We are referring to the users 02:58 VanessaE right 02:58 OldCoder and to recent events in particular 02:58 OldCoder That is my position 02:58 OldCoder Ban was not to be permanent 02:58 OldCoder It was a warning and a request 02:58 OldCoder If /ignore is not possible then greater civility is required 02:58 VanessaE in this case my justification for the ban was that kicking him was followed up immediately by "I don't respond well to threats". 02:59 OldCoder State that 02:59 VanessaE THAT is what got him banned. 02:59 OldCoder When in returns 02:59 OldCoder Hmm 02:59 OldCoder That is subjective and up to the op 02:59 VanessaE oh and what he says in private? "I will not submit" and similar. 02:59 OldCoder Too bad 02:59 * OldCoder sighs again 02:59 OldCoder If he comes back tell him he can talk to me if he wishes 03:00 BackupCoder or meM 03:00 * VanessaE wonders who BackupCoder is.. 03:01 BackupCoder :-) 03:01 OldCoder Me but I have not registered the nick 03:01 OldCoder Will need to register a second one 03:01 VanessaE ok, I figured. 03:01 OldCoder That is for when the 1st connection is down 03:01 OldCoder Not to be guaranteed until a new registered nick is in place 03:05 TANKERx64 s1336 t15ht m0t3®6uc! 03:06 NekoGloop please, this isnt a java decoder 03:09 VanessaE lol 03:22 VanessaE there. "computer" mod added to my server and put into use right away :-) 03:23 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 03:23 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 03:23 VanessaE shaddup bot 03:23 VanessaE :-) 03:23 Aqua_ hello 03:23 VanessaE hi Aqua_ 03:24 Aqua_ is ur server online? 03:24 VanessaE yup 03:25 Aqua_ port again? 03:25 VanessaE 30000 03:25 Aqua_ i mean adress 03:25 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 03:25 VanessaE write it down :-) 03:26 Aqua_ yep got it in notepad 03:26 Aqua_ how can u get a skin? 03:26 VanessaE just go search for one on some Minecraft skins websites then give me the address to the skin you wanna use 03:27 Aqua_ mmm can u creeate ur own? 03:27 VanessaE I'll install it (requires server restart) 03:27 VanessaE sure, that's possible 03:27 VanessaE I've never done it though but any image editor can do it, or use an online minecraft skin editor. 03:29 Aqua_ ok thanks 03:30 VanessaE no prob 03:30 Aqua_ is a minetest player the same as minecraft? 03:30 Aqua_ i mean the size 03:31 Aqua_ and shape 03:31 VanessaE yeah, same size and shape 03:31 VanessaE they use minecraft skins directly. 03:32 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/588304/perry/ 03:32 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: perry | Minecraft Skin 03:32 Aqua_ is this possible? 03:32 VanessaE no 03:32 Aqua_ why? 03:32 VanessaE it needs standard skins fo rnow 03:32 VanessaE we don't have a model for that little guy :-) 03:33 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/590896/slender/ 03:33 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Slender | Minecraft Skin 03:33 Aqua_ so this isnt? 03:33 Aqua_ posible as well 03:33 VanessaE nope. 03:33 VanessaE not yet 03:33 VanessaE use standard player models 03:33 VanessaE (besides, someone else already uses slenderman, shaped as a standard player) 03:34 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612862/zombie-herobrine-redone/ 03:34 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Zombie Herobrine redone | Minecraft Skin 03:34 VanessaE oy 03:34 VanessaE well that'll work if you really want it 03:34 Aqua_ http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/612867/zombie-pigman/ 03:34 moltenbot Aqua_'s link: Zombie Pigman | Minecraft Skin 03:34 Aqua_ ok cya later 03:34 VanessaE the zombie pigman will work too 03:44 NakedFury is the player character model going to remain the way it is or will it be changed to a more unique minetest original way some time soon? 03:44 VanessaE I believe the intent is, eventually, to allow for other models. 03:44 VanessaE I mean, that's possible now with a mod, but there's no "standard" yet. 03:45 NakedFury well, will the standard/default model be a minecraft model or eventually something else? 03:45 VanessaE dunno 04:09 Sevein hi o/ 04:09 VanessaE hi 04:39 OldCoder Sevein, Hello! 05:35 khonkhortisan What would it take to move the settings in-game? 05:36 devlab Hi, can Lava burn the items? 05:36 khonkhortisan lava causes fire on wood-based items 05:37 devlab and for not wood-based? 05:38 khonkhortisan if it's not wood-based, it won't burn even in the presence of fire. 05:38 devlab unless a modification is present? 05:38 khonkhortisan unless groups={flammable=1} or something like that 05:39 khonkhortisan you could make rock burn just by changing its groups 06:34 devlab what do i do with tin? (moreores mod) 06:37 khonkhortisan make bronze with it 06:38 khonkhortisan you end up with lots of extra copper ingots, and can't make blocks from it, or bronze 06:38 VanessaE make bronze, or use it in the process of making a homedecor fridge 06:53 Aqua_ Hello 06:53 VanessaE hi 06:54 Aqua_ how come i keep getting _ 06:54 Aqua_ in my name 06:56 VanessaE because someone else on this network probably uses Aqua also 06:56 Aqua_ ? thats me] 06:56 khonkhortisan Are you registered with freenode? 06:56 VanessaE [12-09 01:57] * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua 06:56 VanessaE [12-09 01:57] * [Aqua_] (65afbf97@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.175.191.151): 101.175.191.151 - http://webchat.freenode.net 06:56 moltenbot VanessaE's link: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) 06:56 VanessaE see? 06:57 VanessaE two different addresses. 06:57 Aqua_ thats weird 06:57 VanessaE if they're both you, find the other one and shut it down. 06:57 khonkhortisan netkillall Aqua 06:57 Aqua_ few days ago i could use Aqua 06:57 khonkhortisan no one can steal my username, I have a password on it 06:57 VanessaE ditto 06:58 VanessaE mine's registered with an impossible-to-guess password. 06:58 Aqua_ so basically someones using my name? 06:58 VanessaE Aqua_: it isn't "your" name if you didn't register it with Nickserv. 06:58 khonkhortisan /msg Nickserv identify 06:59 khonkhortisan oops I mean 06:59 khonkhortisan /msg Nickserv identify 06:59 VanessaE On IRC, nicknames are not "managed" by default, except via Nickserv, and for that you need to explicitly ask it to register you and you have to log in with it 06:59 Aqua_ i dont get why theres another Aqua? 07:00 VanessaE because you didn't register your nick, so someone else somewhere signed on with the same one, 07:00 VanessaE this is the Freenode network. There are thousands of channels and hundreds of thousands of users. 07:00 VanessaE someone else was bound to pick "Aqua" eventually. 07:01 Aqua_ i see 07:01 Aqua_ ill get a new nickname 07:01 VanessaE this is not specific to Minetest btw 07:01 VanessaE We're just one channel out of thousands. :-) 07:02 Aqua_ how come u have got @ in front of ur name? 07:02 khonkhortisan because you're not using xchat 07:03 VanessaE because I have channel operator status right now. 07:03 * VanessaE stands down. 07:03 khonkhortisan I show a green dot for you 07:03 Aqua_ So will i have to get a new name? 07:03 khonkhortisan You could continue existing in your current perdicament 07:04 VanessaE Aqua_: if you want to be unique, probably. Otherwise stick with the _ for now. 07:04 Aqua_ :( 07:05 VanessaE sowwy :( 07:05 Aqua_ can u only have a-z and 1-9 07:05 Aqua_ 0-9 07:05 VanessaE a-z, 0-9, and some symbols 07:05 VanessaE must start with a letter 07:06 Aqua_ OK 07:06 VanessaE I think {}[]() \ _ are allowed 07:06 VanessaE I forget what else 07:06 khonkhortisan You can have a-z, 0-F 07:07 Aqua_ is - allowed? 07:07 Aqua_ so i cant get Aqua back? 07:07 VanessaE probably not 07:08 VanessaE a-z A-Z 0-9 _ - \ [ ] { } ^ ` | 07:09 VanessaE those are the allowed chars 07:09 Aqua_ guess thats my new nickname 07:09 VanessaE now go register it 07:09 VanessaE /msg nickserv help register 07:11 Aqua_ how? 07:11 VanessaE that command ^^^^ 07:11 Aqua_ now wat 07:11 VanessaE nickserv will answer with help about how to register. 07:11 VanessaE follow the instructions it gives. 07:11 VanessaE if you want your nick to stick and be safe, you probably need to get off the web chat and get a regular IRC client. 07:12 VanessaE Xchat can, for example, automatically sign in with nickserv when you start it 07:12 VanessaE other clients probably also. 07:12 Aqua_ dinner brb 07:22 ShiftyCake back\ 07:22 ShiftyCake back 07:23 ShiftyCake [18:31] -NickServ- ShiftyCake has now been verified. [18:31] -NickServ- Thank you for verifying your e-mail address! You have taken steps in ensuring that your registrations are not exploited. 07:23 ShiftyCake now wat? 07:23 ShiftyCake What does it do? 07:24 ShiftyCake You there 07:24 VanessaE I'm here, sorry 07:25 VanessaE now, write your password down 07:25 VanessaE next time you sign in, /msg nickserv identify MYPASSWORD 07:25 VanessaE (replace MYPASSWORD with whatever you used) 07:25 ShiftyCake What is my password? 07:25 VanessaE you had to have made one up in order to register. 07:26 ShiftyCake no i didnt 07:26 VanessaE /msg nickserv REGISTER 07:26 VanessaE you had to have given it a password. 07:27 ShiftyCake ooops how do i change it 07:27 ShiftyCake i made it the example 07:27 VanessaE /msg nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword 07:28 VanessaE and, 07:28 VanessaE /msg nickserv set enforce on 07:28 VanessaE that'll cause nickserv to force someone off of your nick if they're using it. 07:30 VanessaE anyway, time for me to get to bed. 07:31 VanessaE night all,. 07:35 ShiftyCake cya 07:35 ShiftyCake thanks for everything 07:49 devlab Um How can i make bronze? 07:50 devlab Smelt the tin and copper? 07:51 Aqua_ yes 07:51 Aqua_ then craft togerther 07:53 devlab I'm converting them ores into ingots 07:53 Aqua_ cool 07:55 Aqua_ hi 07:55 devlab Smelting an iron lump gives you steel ingots? 08:30 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for changes 08:40 markveidemanis i have a texture challenge 08:41 markveidemanis plz make a turret like the one from portal 2 in 16x16 08:42 markveidemanis HI 09:12 devlab hey, what's the logic behind the furnace? 09:13 Calinou there is none, minecraft also has a furnace, both furnaces are pretty similar 09:14 devlab and by that i mean how may units of fuel per 11 units of items 09:21 Calinou devlab: depends what fuel you want to use 09:21 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Furnace 09:21 moltenbot Calinou's link: Furnace - Minetest Wiki 09:21 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting 09:21 moltenbot Calinou's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki 09:21 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip 09:22 RealBadAngel almost done version of UI, if some1 wants to test it 09:28 emerge-plus For how long? 09:30 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Smelting - Minetest Wiki 09:31 markveidemanis www.google.co.uk 09:31 ShiftyCake Hello 09:31 ShiftyCake Anyone there? 09:32 ShiftyCake Im Aqua 09:32 markveidemanis hi 09:33 ShiftyCake do u play on gameboom? 09:36 emerge-plus BTW, I found strange thing while trying to make better textures for animals mod: http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png 09:36 Calinou seems legit 09:36 emerge-plus Part of jeans is glued to the arm. 09:37 ShiftyCake lol 09:37 emerge-plus Very, very suspicious vombie :3 09:39 ShiftyCake if u wanted to do ur own skin how many pixels will they have to be 09:39 emerge-plus Also, here more screenshots: 09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_0de16fe62a.png 09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_bb800e952c.png 09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_3c2c9e3350.png 09:39 emerge-plus http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/12/1209/h_1355043589_8196358_16649237fc.png 09:44 emerge-plus ShiftyCake, I just drowned my upon the default textures. 09:45 ShiftyCake where would i put my textures for player 09:46 ShiftyCake where? 09:46 ShiftyCake i got a skin where do i put it? 09:48 emerge-plus Why would you need them in singleplayer? 09:49 emerge-plus There only one skin for all player at the moment. 09:50 ShiftyCake so i can look at myself 09:51 emerge-plus :3 09:52 ShiftyCake i go on to my own server open to minetest 09:52 ShiftyCake two minetest* 09:53 ShiftyCake 127.0.0.1 09:53 emerge-plus What OS are you using? 09:53 ShiftyCake wiindows xp 09:54 ShiftyCake ill link u a picture 09:56 ShiftyCake http://i.imgur.com/ww0f2.png 09:56 ShiftyCake there ya go 09:56 ShiftyCake thats my skin 09:57 emerge-plus Fuu, zombie from minecr*ft... 09:57 ShiftyCake not really its slighty rotten 09:58 markveidemanis_ there is a lying animation for the player, can someone make a /lay command, to go along with /sit 09:59 KikaRz my computer is now making updates 09:59 KikaRz VanessaE, yesterday, my computer went to a black screen saying somethings with battery or energy or something 09:59 KikaRz but the mouse were there 09:59 KikaRz just 2 lines appearing 09:59 ShiftyCake what os? 09:59 KikaRz Ubuntu (xubuntu version) 12.04.1 LST 09:59 KikaRz Too laggy for me 09:59 KikaRz i cant make it stable. 10:00 ShiftyCake heres another of me slaying zombies 10:00 ShiftyCake http://i.imgur.com/NZIC7.png 10:00 KikaRz want to try again minetest 10:00 KikaRz in this pc (linux) 10:00 KikaRz *-* 10:00 emerge-plus KikaRz, lol, I think you can't cause Ubuntu is based on unstable debian. 10:01 Calinou emerge-plus: quit trolling.. 10:01 KikaRz if isnt laggy, ill make minetest to be played in linux. 10:01 Calinou buntus are much more stable than debian sid 10:01 Calinou or even testing 10:01 KikaRz if is laggy, ill go back to windows 10:01 KikaRz well, but it lags 2 in 2 minutes 10:01 Calinou KikaRz: old GPUs are often slower with opengl than directx 10:01 KikaRz i cant move the mouse, using numlock , caps lock or scroll lock 10:02 KikaRz Calinou, yesterday i tried minetest, and it was faster than directx 10:02 KikaRz (in linux) 10:02 KikaRz directx tested in windows 10:02 KikaRz opengl tested in linux 10:02 Calinou no direct3d on linux unless you run the windows binary with wine :P 10:02 KikaRz anyways... i prefer debian. 10:02 Calinou and this doesn't work anymore since a few versions iirc 10:02 KikaRz Wine sucks 10:02 Calinou debian is unusable 10:02 Calinou no u 10:03 KikaRz my ass sucks. 10:03 KikaRz ;c 10:03 KikaRz kidding. 10:03 emerge-plus Calinou, sorry 10:04 emerge-plus But, why not use debian stable if you need stability? 10:04 KikaRz No CD/DVD device. 10:04 KikaRz its broken 10:04 KikaRz and pen drive installation? sucks 10:05 emerge-plus Hm, install using debootstrap 10:06 emerge-plus And another PC. 10:06 KikaRz ... 10:06 KikaRz no thanks 10:06 KikaRz i just have 2 pcs 10:06 KikaRz this and another OLDER than this 10:07 Calinou emerge-plus: debian stable's software is way too old to be usable 10:07 KikaRz yep 10:07 KikaRz i got here 10:07 KikaRz a cd of debian 10:07 KikaRz wait, going to tell you the version 10:07 KikaRz 6.0.1a 10:07 KikaRz 1a or la 10:07 KikaRz netinst 10:08 markveidemanis_ KikaRz 10:08 markveidemanis_ all set up? 10:08 KikaRz what markveidemanis_? 10:08 KikaRz what set up? 10:08 KikaRz no. 10:08 markveidemanis_ want to see sitting animation on my server? 10:08 KikaRz my pc crashed... giving errors in compiling 10:08 KikaRz etc 10:08 Calinou markveidemanis_: ip? 10:08 markveidemanis_ you can sit 10:08 KikaRz markveidemanis_, already seen 10:08 KikaRz in a mod 10:09 ShiftyCake hey calinou u never granted me privs to ur server 10:09 markveidemanis_ calinou: my name> whois 10:09 Calinou u > you 10:09 Calinou ur > your 10:09 Calinou also, i'm not really going to my server anymore... noone goes to it 10:09 Calinou we have way too many servers 10:09 KikaRz Calinou 10:09 OldCoder Heh 10:09 KikaRz i want to play on your 10:09 KikaRz but... depends on what mods it have 10:09 OldCoder Can there be too many? 10:10 OldCoder Like too many potato chips 10:10 * OldCoder is resting 10:10 OldCoder Zzz 10:10 ShiftyCake i played it once 10:10 ShiftyCake its fast\ 10:10 KikaRz OldCoder is now AWAY. 10:10 markveidemanis_ who wants to play on my server with mauvebrick's mobpack 10:10 Calinou connecting.. 10:10 ShiftyCake ill try 10:10 Calinou OldCoder: i think you should shut down my server, maybe put the world for download 10:10 KikaRz i dont, markveidemanis_ 10:11 KikaRz change your name to markveidemanis 10:11 KikaRz without _ 10:11 OldCoder Calinou, Zzz 10:11 KikaRz thats beter 10:11 KikaRz *better 10:11 OldCoder Calinou, it's a good world why shut it down? But if you want the map made available sure I will do that later today 10:11 KikaRz Aperture science... 10:11 ShiftyCake infinityprojects and yours both shut down. thats great 10:11 KikaRz We do the most, because we can 10:12 KikaRz for the god of all of us 10:12 KikaRz except once you're dead. 10:12 KikaRz :P 10:12 KikaRz Listening : Still Alive - Portal 1 10:12 Calinou OldCoder: noone goes to it, occasional players wanting to go to it just ragequit because noone plays the game 10:12 Calinou fragmentation is bad 10:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:12 KikaRz Welcome back PilzAdam. 10:12 ShiftyCake hi 10:12 Calinou ShiftyCake: i'm not doing that because of you 10:12 Calinou we all know you're a landmine-like griefer :P 10:13 ShiftyCake ? 10:13 ShiftyCake Im not 10:13 OldCoder Calinou, suggestions are welcome. I have often refused to give people worlds just because they want one. Your world is large and well established. It stays. Some special worlds will also stay as museums. 10:13 OldCoder Would you take away Skyblock? Or the novel world of Harbor? 10:13 Calinou huh? 10:13 KikaRz Calinou. 10:13 OldCoder Calinou, huh what. The above is perfectly clear. 10:13 ShiftyCake How do u change ur nick? 10:14 KikaRz Your server got Technic? 10:14 * OldCoder is resting now 10:14 KikaRz Your server got Mesecons? 10:14 * OldCoder will try to update to 0.4.4 soon 10:14 ShiftyCake How do u change ur nick? 10:14 KikaRz ShiftyCake , /nick 10:14 OldCoder ShiftyCake, by this: 10:14 OldCoder /nick ChocolateCake 10:14 ShiftyCake ok thx 10:14 OldCoder with no space at the start 10:14 OldCoder Zzz 10:15 KikaRz updating stupid linux that is laggy to me. 10:15 KikaRz If it stills laggy, ill rage quit 10:15 KikaRz (not linux in general) 10:15 KikaRz just ubuntu 10:15 KikaRz i've tried Debian Before... 10:15 KikaRz GOOD Feedback 10:16 KikaRz Aqua_ ! 10:16 KikaRz *o* 10:16 Aqua_ Well doesnt let me do Aqua 10:16 Aqua_ VanessaE explained that to me earliear 10:16 KikaRz you registered? 10:17 KikaRz someone got your nick: Aqua 10:17 Aqua_ i know 10:17 KikaRz in another channel 10:17 Aqua_ i know 10:17 Aqua_ few days ago it worked 10:17 Aqua_ my nick's ShiftyCake now 10:17 KikaRz But, if you want to hack it... 10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua 10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU 10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec 7 09:15:54 10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua 10:18 KikaRz * [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS. 10:18 ShiftyCake not me 10:18 markveidemanis Calinou 10:18 markveidemanis i'm testing a 1oomb map, wanna join 10:19 Calinou OldCoder: well keep it as a museum then. 10:20 KikaRz his IP is there. 10:21 KikaRz SwiftCake, got a nick for you... AquaCake 10:21 KikaRz lol 10:21 KikaRz i crashed him without intentions. 10:21 KikaRz Welcome back Zeg9. 10:21 KikaRz ... 10:21 devlab how many uses for Titanium (titanium mod), lol 10:22 KikaRz devlab, you're... 10:22 devlab what? 10:22 KikaRz a rat. 10:22 KikaRz XD 10:22 devlab what the? 10:22 KikaRz Welcome Back RealBadAngel! 10:23 RealBadAngel hi 10:23 KikaRz !define rat 10:23 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: rat definition: any of numerous rodents ('''Rattus''' and related genera) differing from the related mice especially by considerably larger size. 10:23 KikaRz lol 10:23 KikaRz Hi RealBadAngel! 10:24 markveidemanis calinou koin again. 10:24 markveidemanis #join 10:24 * Calinou just finished installing chromium from upstream 10:24 Calinou version 25 ahoy! 10:24 Calinou added menu entry, added it as default browser 10:25 KikaRz .-. 10:25 Calinou also added menu entry/terminal alias for minetest 10:25 KikaRz why the updates are too long? 10:25 markveidemanis use the supercomputer/transporter to move around 10:26 KikaRz hate mega updates. 10:26 Calinou KikaRz: so you are upgrading? 10:26 KikaRz no 10:26 KikaRz im making updates 10:26 KikaRz of the system 10:26 Calinou upgrading is going from eg. 12.04 to 12.10 10:26 KikaRz not upgrading 10:26 KikaRz No 10:26 KikaRz only if i was pressing the button: Upgrade Ubuntu 10:26 Calinou k then 10:26 KikaRz but im not 10:26 KikaRz 12.10 sucks 10:27 Calinou KikaRz: make sure you go to preferences > window manager > compositing > disablze 10:27 Calinou disable* 10:27 Calinou compositing will always slow down games, even 2D ones.. 10:27 Calinou (if you're using xfce) 10:27 KikaRz Listening to: The Wanted - Glad you Came 10:27 KikaRz where? 10:27 Calinou markveidemanis: takes a lot of time to download stuff 10:27 Calinou KikaRz: you can find preferences menu with alt+f1 :p 10:27 markveidemanis yep, big modpack 10:27 Calinou still at 0% media 10:28 KikaRz well, yesterday 10:28 KikaRz i was going to launch super tux 10:28 KikaRz and it stayed in the black screen a bit of time 10:28 KikaRz 10 minutes later... (music of supertux) and screen! 10:28 markveidemanis i forgot to remove the creative mode mod 10:28 KikaRz hate that bug 10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] (~Aqua@74.143.225.146): Aqua 10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] cameron.freenode.net :Vilnius, Lithuania, EU 10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] inactivo 49:01:27, ligou-se: Fri Dec 7 09:15:54 10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] is logged in as Aqua 10:28 KikaRz * [Aqua] Fim da lista WHOIS. 10:29 KikaRz NOT THAT 10:29 devlab lol 10:29 KikaRz Warning: No Support for locale: pt_PT.utf8 10:29 KikaRz calinou 10:29 KikaRz alt + F1 dont works 10:29 KikaRz going to try alt gr 10:30 KikaRz nope 10:30 markveidemanis Calinou 10:30 markveidemanis try disabling preload item visuals 10:30 KikaRz he already got 10:30 Calinou I got "client disconnected" :P 10:31 Calinou KikaRz: there is no portuguest translation for minetest then :P 10:31 Calinou KikaRz: you're using xfce? 10:31 KikaRz Listening: Katy Perry - Hot and Cold 10:31 Calinou then just click on top left button... 10:31 KikaRz Yes Calinou 10:31 Calinou does the same thing as alt+f1 10:31 KikaRz and then? 10:31 Calinou system preferences > window manager tweaks > compositing 10:31 Calinou uncheck "enable compositing" 10:31 markveidemanis get the modpack i have, run once and all media will be cached 10:31 Calinou 12% media now 10:32 markveidemanis ok.... 10:32 KikaRz Compositing is already disabled 10:33 KikaRz guess window compositing makes my pc more speed 10:33 Calinou lol no 10:33 KikaRz well 10:33 Calinou due to the way X is made, compositing slows down stuff a lot, even if you add no effects 10:33 Calinou even on my computer stuff is much slower 10:34 KikaRz lol 10:34 KikaRz but ok 10:34 KikaRz no problem 10:34 KikaRz disabled 10:34 markveidemanis calinou: progress? 10:34 Calinou 38% 10:34 KikaRz well, going to take breakfast 10:36 * Calinou is installing eye of gnome 10:36 Calinou ristretto is meh 10:38 BREAKFAST-Kika there is a youtube music downloader for linux? 10:39 PilzAdam MiniTube 10:39 * BREAKFAST-Kika is finishing updates... (Now, appears that HAAAAAALELUIA! HAAAAALELUIA... HALELUIA... 10:39 BREAKFAST-Kika XD 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika there is a good recorder for linux? 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika (not that one that speeds up my pc 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika not speeds up... it records faster (like, when we type, it types very faster) 10:40 Calinou youtube-dl 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika in video 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika dl ? 10:40 Calinou sudo apt-get install youtube-dl 10:40 Calinou to download youtube videos :P 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika thats not to record 10:40 Calinou then youtube-dl 10:40 BREAKFAST-Kika ill use minitube. 10:40 Calinou and to record, ffmpeg 10:41 Calinou it's command line though 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika go to my brother's channel 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika and see 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika how it been recorded 10:41 emerge-plus recordmydesktop? 10:41 Calinou might try gtk-recordmydesktop, but it's nott really for games 10:41 emerge-plus :p 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika youtube.com/joaoadriano3 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika calinou 10:41 BREAKFAST-Kika search for: como criar uma casa da tribo 10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika that video was made in linux 10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika with a fucking stupid recorder 10:42 BREAKFAST-Kika in ubuntu 11.10 10:42 Calinou nope.avi 10:43 Zeg9 Hello! 10:43 Calinou hi 10:44 BREAKFAST-Kika Zeg9, i said you Welcome Back, and you left. 10:44 Calinou that's called a ragequit 10:44 BREAKFAST-Kika yea 10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika youtube.com/DiogoFuckingSena 10:46 markveidemanis Zeg9 10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika i guess is not diogo 10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika my cousin's friend 10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika try 10:46 Zeg9 It isn't ragequit, I had to leave >.< 10:46 BREAKFAST-Kika there you will have a parody of one direction 10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika Zeg9 , so, why you're here? 10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika so, leave! 10:47 markveidemanis calinou, i see the chat in the console:) 10:47 Zeg9 ... 10:47 markveidemanis don't dig trees! 10:47 BREAKFAST-Kika markveidemanis, i know that 10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika dIg? 10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika o_o' 10:48 BREAKFAST-Kika dig = stone, dirt, minerals. 10:49 BREAKFAST-Kika cut = trees, leaves, wood. 10:49 BREAKFAST-Kika or wools 10:52 Calinou cut dirt/stone, dig trees and wood! 10:53 KikaRz lol 10:55 KikaRz what you doing guys? 10:55 Calinou http://ompldr.org/vZ21rdA/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2009122012%20-%2011:53:39.png 10:55 Calinou this 10:55 devlab what are the sounds of the mobs? 10:56 KikaRz sry 10:56 KikaRz cant see prints 10:56 KikaRz updates installing 10:58 Zeg9 Calinou, you are having great fun as I see 10:59 KikaRz Welcome Back Jordach. 10:59 Zeg9 Going to play supertux xD 10:59 KikaRz stupid Zeg9. 10:59 KikaRz that's my game, not yours 10:59 Zeg9 I knew it before you. 10:59 Zeg9 or? 10:59 Zeg9 Nvm 10:59 KikaRz i know it since 2001 10:59 KikaRz i was 10. 11:00 KikaRz my brother was seeing linux infos 11:00 KikaRz for that year 11:00 KikaRz or nexts... 11:00 KikaRz and then, discovered that project 11:02 KikaRz Welcome Back iqualfragile 11:04 iqualfragile Good morning KikaRz 11:05 KikaRz Thx 11:05 KikaRz updating my computer since 9 AM (portugal) 11:05 KikaRz 2 hours . 11:05 iqualfragile windows? 11:05 KikaRz linux. 11:05 iqualfragile or just real crappy internet 11:05 iqualfragile wich distro? 11:05 KikaRz ubuntu 12.04.1 11:06 KikaRz Xubuntu 11:06 iqualfragile hmm… switch to debian& get debdelta 11:06 KikaRz I can't. 11:06 KikaRz an d not my net 11:06 KikaRz its my pc 11:06 KikaRz iqualfragile, saying the same as yesterday: 11:06 iqualfragile wow… thats evil 11:06 KikaRz No CD/DVD device. 11:06 iqualfragile no problem? 11:07 KikaRz yes it has 11:07 iqualfragile why? 11:08 KikaRz NO CD/DVD DEVICE 11:08 KikaRz its broken 11:10 Calinou KikaRz: the first update takes a lot of time ;) that's normal 11:11 KikaRz Registering myself in Zimagez 11:11 KikaRz to get prints faster 11:11 KikaRz for you 11:12 Zeg9 The "first update" is also from 12.04 to 12.10, isn't it ? 11:12 Calinou he is not upgrading, he is staying with the LTS 11:12 Zeg9 I hope 11:12 KikaRz no 11:12 KikaRz Calinou, remembering, IM A GIRL 11:13 KikaRz NOT A BOY 11:13 * Calinou should use "they" more often 11:13 Matsetes Hi guys 11:13 Zeg9 Hello 11:13 devlab sup? 11:13 KikaRz Hi Matsetes, welcome back. 11:14 Matsetes KikaRz: Thx!! 11:14 Matsetes I'm updating minetest, which are the news? 11:15 KikaRz gmail is getting worst 11:15 KikaRz nothing matsetes 11:15 KikaRz otherwise that you're updating to 0.4.4 11:15 KikaRz http://minetest.net/news 11:15 Zeg9 google* is getting worse 11:16 Zeg9 Brb, lunch :) 11:16 KikaRz not google 11:16 KikaRz but yes gmail 11:17 Matsetes KikaRz: 404 page not found =S 11:18 KikaRz now, i can upgrade to 12.10 11:18 KikaRz but i wont. 11:19 KikaRz guys 11:19 KikaRz gotta reboot pc 11:19 KikaRz see ya in 1 minute 11:25 * PilzAdam uses YouTube feather because the new design sucks 11:28 Jordach STOP THE PRESSES 11:28 Jordach PilzAdam you said you would never use a google product..whats a youtube? 11:29 PilzAdam I said i would never use google 11:29 PilzAdam not Google products 11:30 KikaRz Hi there :) 11:30 KikaRz Back. 11:30 KikaRz now going to compile minetest :) 11:31 KikaRz hey, if i dont put -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1, or 0, it dont cares? 11:31 Calinou KikaRz: see my one line script 11:31 KikaRz Calinou, your is bugged. 11:31 KikaRz got a problem 11:31 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 11:31 moltenbot Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 11:31 KikaRz cmake is glitched 11:31 KikaRz make is bugged. 11:31 Calinou works for me 11:31 Calinou you forgot to install dependencies then 11:31 KikaRz not the dependencies 11:32 KikaRz the https:// 11:32 PilzAdam Calinou, why always install dependencies? 11:32 KikaRz must be http:// or git:// 11:32 Calinou no, https works 11:32 KikaRz Aristides got problem 11:32 KikaRz with that 11:32 Calinou well then I'll point to git protocol URLs 11:33 KikaRz hey 11:33 KikaRz at the end of compilation 11:33 KikaRz it runs automaticly the game 11:33 KikaRz ? 11:33 KikaRz git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder." 11:33 KikaRz can i use just that? i just got the dependencies 11:33 Calinou KikaRz: try my script now 11:33 Calinou it does run the game, yes 11:33 Calinou if you already got the deps, yes it will work 11:33 KikaRz It saves the bin folder? 11:34 KikaRz it didnt, last time i ran it 11:34 Calinou i've changed the URLs to point to the git protocol URLs 11:34 Calinou ~/minetest/bin > has the minetest binary 11:34 Calinou (note that the script builds a non-run-in-place version, user data does to ~/.minetest) 11:34 KikaRz ill just use that: git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git;cd minetest/games;git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git;cd ..;cmake .;cd src;make -j2;cd ../bin;./minetest;echo;echo "You can run Minetest again by double-clicking \"minetest\" in the \"bin\" folder of the \"minetest\" folder in your home folder." 11:34 Calinou should work if you have the deps 11:35 KikaRz i should use Nautilus or Tunar? 11:35 KikaRz *Thunar 11:36 KikaRz today its fasty. (the downloading and the compiling 11:37 Calinou thunar 11:37 Calinou nautilus is for gnome, thunar is for xfce 11:37 Calinou also thunar is better :3 11:38 KikaRz calinou 11:39 KikaRz can i use "make" only? 11:39 KikaRz without -j2 11:39 KikaRz i got a pentium 4 11:42 Calinou yes, of course 11:42 markveidemanis what site can i use to upload 11:42 Calinou i gtg, bye 11:42 Calinou ompldr.org 11:44 KikaRz markveidemanis, use ompldr.org, mediafire.com, rapidshare.com, uploaded.com 11:44 KikaRz what you want 11:44 markveidemanis omlpdr 11:44 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ21sYQ/MOD.zip 11:45 KikaRz compiling 11:45 markveidemanis u will need to run modpack once to generate cache to reduce lagg connecting to my server 11:45 Jordach markveidemanis - does not work like that 11:45 KikaRz yep 11:46 markveidemanis does 11:46 KikaRz markveidemanis, we are at more time in the minetest. 11:46 Jordach because thats your local world 11:46 KikaRz you dont know how its done. 11:46 KikaRz 21 % compiled 11:47 markveidemanis who is a programmer and is familiar with mutimode 11:47 Jordach your being too broad 11:48 Jordach no one here uses multi-node bar mauvebic 11:48 markveidemanis can someone come on my server and explain my mods to me:) 11:48 Jordach yes we're programmers, but it depends on language. 11:48 Jordach br# 11:48 Jordach brb 11:48 KikaRz yes. 11:48 KikaRz like me 11:48 KikaRz im not programmer in lua 11:48 KikaRz but ill be 11:49 KikaRz im just in python, 11:49 KikaRz HTML 11:49 KikaRz PHP 11:49 KikaRz C++ 11:49 KikaRz C+ 11:49 KikaRz C# 11:49 KikaRz Yay! My vps is activated! *__* 11:49 PilzAdam HTML is *not* a programming language 11:49 KikaRz yes it is. 11:49 KikaRz but not really the way you think 11:49 PilzAdam its a markup language 11:50 KikaRz pc being used 100% 11:50 KikaRz reason: compiling 11:51 Jordach like LatEX 11:52 KikaRz so, javascript is what? 11:52 KikaRz . 11:52 PilzAdam a programming language? 11:52 KikaRz no 11:52 KikaRz its a language used in programming, web 11:52 KikaRz and etc 11:53 Jordach LatEX is markup 11:53 jin_xi how do i shot web 11:53 Jordach (similar to .odf) 11:53 PilzAdam KikaRz, that wasnt a question 11:53 KikaRz 40%. 11:54 KikaRz Welcome q66 11:57 KikaRz 50 % 12:06 KikaRz 70 % 12:10 KikaRz minetest built. 12:10 KikaRz minetestserver left. 12:11 Zeg9 john_minetest, you look bored 12:12 Zeg9 I'll maybe work on PP 12:15 KikaRz 80 12:16 * Jordach just had a wtf moment 12:16 Jordach PilzAdam - can i ask you for something? 12:17 KikaRz hey 12:17 KikaRz if i connect my pc to my television 12:17 KikaRz itll work? 12:17 PilzAdam Jordach, sure 12:17 KikaRz linux will support' 12:17 KikaRz ? 12:17 neko259 Hi everybody. I have a strange problem with the server. At some point it starts to consume more and more RAM (from the usual 80M he got to 17G). I try to look at the trace (started server with --trace) 12:17 neko259 and have just lines like: 4 <- 83.149.9.11:50225, size=63, data=63, data= 4F45 7403 0002 0001 0010 1972 6F61 6E31 316D 0000... 12:18 KikaRz 90% 12:18 KikaRz markveidemanis, markveidemanis_, its 90% 12:19 KikaRz hi iqualfragile 12:20 KikaRz VanessaE, sweetie, are you there? 12:21 KikaRz 100 :D 12:23 Matsetes I'm back 12:24 KikaRz Guys 12:24 KikaRz got a problem 12:24 KikaRz my textures are bugged 12:24 KikaRz and sounds 12:25 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php 12:26 KikaRz GUYS 12:27 KikaRz GOT A PROBLEM HERE 12:27 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php 12:27 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr 12:28 KikaRz someone can help me 12:28 KikaRz ? 12:28 KikaRz iqualfragile ? 12:28 KikaRz PilzAdam ? 12:28 iqualfragile hi 12:28 KikaRz texture is bugged 12:28 KikaRz yesterday wasnt 12:28 iqualfragile what did you change? 12:28 KikaRz nothing 12:28 KikaRz i finished compiling now 12:29 KikaRz maybe its the cache folder 12:29 KikaRz since yesterday i've been playing... 12:29 KikaRz then my pc crashed. 12:29 iqualfragile interesting… looks flipped 12:29 KikaRz yea 12:30 KikaRz In the console... 12:30 KikaRz 12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,9,11) 12:30 KikaRz node_dig 12:30 KikaRz 12:23:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,8,11) 12:30 KikaRz Unsupported texture format 12:30 KikaRz node_dig 12:30 KikaRz 12:23:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,10,11) 12:30 KikaRz node_dig 12:30 KikaRz 12:23:33: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-4,11,11) 12:30 KikaRz shall i remove cache folder? 12:30 KikaRz and run game agian? 12:30 KikaRz *again 12:31 iqualfragile try it 12:31 KikaRz restarting game... 12:31 KikaRz remembering, this is my first time using linux *-* 12:31 KikaRz kidding, 12:32 KikaRz just first time playing minetest with linux 12:32 Matsetes KikaRz: new to Linux? 12:32 KikaRz still flipped. 12:32 KikaRz yes matsetes 12:33 Matsetes KikaRz: Wow! =) 12:36 KikaRz In linux, its faster than windows 12:36 KikaRz *_* 12:37 KikaRz windows worlds are compatible with linux, right? 12:37 Zeg9 Why wouldn't they? 12:38 KikaRz markveidemanis 12:38 KikaRz can i enter now? 12:38 markveidemanis im still choosing mods 12:39 markveidemanis ok my server is up to everyone who wants 12:39 KikaRz wait 12:39 markveidemanis ip: my name>whois 12:39 KikaRz port? 12:39 markveidemanis 30000 12:43 KikaRz wait 12:43 KikaRz finishing my house 12:43 KikaRz hey, the slabs are in default game? 12:43 KikaRz oh, they are 12:43 markveidemanis go on my server, have to go seen 12:43 markveidemanis #soon 12:44 Zeg9 mark, It keeps on "connecting to server" 12:44 Zeg9 Forget this 12:44 Zeg9 My fault 12:44 Jordach Jeija, can i tell you something quickly? 12:44 KikaRz guys, whats the slab id? 12:44 KikaRz default: ?? 12:44 KikaRz wood slab 12:46 KikaRz Jordach 12:47 Zeg9 stairs:slab_wood 12:47 Zeg9 or stairs:wood_slab 12:47 KikaRz not mods. 12:47 Zeg9 I never remember 12:47 Zeg9 stairs is in default mods 12:48 KikaRz and pickaxe? 12:49 Zeg9 default:pick_wood 12:49 markveidemanis _____ 12:49 markveidemanis _ 12:52 KikaRz uff 12:52 KikaRz water still dont destroys torches 12:52 KikaRz what a luck 12:53 KikaRz if it were destroying, my map were ruined 12:59 KikaRz finished my first house in linux 12:59 KikaRz 1 PM! 13:00 cae2000 hello 13:00 KikaRz hi 13:00 KikaRz Zeg9 13:00 KikaRz I have 2 partitions (windows and linux) 13:00 KikaRz how i get into the windows files by linux?= 13:00 cae2000 no idea 13:01 cae2000 but you can accses the linux files from windows 13:02 KikaRz ... 13:02 KikaRz no i cant. 13:02 cae2000 No? 13:02 KikaRz nope 13:02 cae2000 really? 13:02 cae2000 twow 13:02 cae2000 w*wow 13:03 KikaRz http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/01/02/how-to-access-microsoft-windows-files-and-folders-from-linux/ 13:03 moltenbot KikaRz's link: How to access Microsoft Windows files and folders from Linux 13:03 cae2000 *wow work keybord! 13:03 Zeg9 Can you send me a screenshot of your file manager, KikaRz? 13:04 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-130423.php 13:04 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr 13:05 Zeg9 Hmm, yeah, it doesn't show 13:05 Zeg9 Try installing ntfs3g 13:05 KikaRz its already installed 13:05 KikaRz i guess 13:05 Zeg9 ls /dev/sd* 13:06 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/sd* 13:06 KikaRz /dev/sda /dev/sda1 13:06 Zeg9 Weird... 13:06 Zeg9 Maybe you can't access it because you installed through wubi 13:07 KikaRz yes i can 13:07 cae2000 i have two computers, one with windows (one im using now) and one with ubuntu linux. so i dont know. 13:07 KikaRz last time i instaled it 13:07 KikaRz i installed it with wub 13:07 KikaRz and worked 13:08 Zeg9 cat /etc/fstab 13:09 KikaRz let me try this 13:09 KikaRz http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu 13:09 moltenbot KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow 13:09 cae2000 sda & sda1 are partion names. one will be win and the other will be linux 13:09 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab 13:09 KikaRz # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM 13:10 KikaRz ./host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none swap sw 0 0 13:10 KikaRz without . 13:10 Zeg9 Oh wait 13:10 Zeg9 Can you try: 13:10 Zeg9 ls /dev/hd* 13:10 KikaRz we need to mound it 13:10 KikaRz joao@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/hd* 13:10 KikaRz ls: cannot access /dev/hd*: No such file or directory 13:10 Zeg9 Ok, then I don't see 13:10 Zeg9 Try gparted, as written in your link 13:11 cae2000 i like gparted 13:11 cae2000 its cool 13:11 KikaRz cant install by apt-get 13:11 cae2000 you can make your own partions 13:12 cae2000 so maby you can read them 13:12 KikaRz Synaptic... 13:12 KikaRz Love you... 13:12 KikaRz how much time ago... 13:12 cae2000 ? 13:13 KikaRz Synaptic package manager 13:13 cae2000 ok 13:13 KikaRz stupid ubuntu software center 13:13 cae2000 the whol "love you..."thing... 13:14 cae2000 hi ruben 13:14 KikaRz Welcome back rubenwardy 13:15 cae2000 ubuntu software center uses atp-get anyway. 13:15 KikaRz lol 13:15 KikaRz ill install super tux too :) 13:15 cae2000 thats how it installs 13:15 cae2000 :) 13:16 cae2000 how many people are on? 13:17 cae2000 i dissaper in a poof of smoke! 13:19 KikaRz Welcome Back rubenwardy 13:21 Jordach hello rubenwardy 13:31 KikaRz whats the shortcut to terminal? 13:31 * VanessaE wanders in sleepily. 13:31 VanessaE hi 13:32 KikaRz WHATS THE SHORTCUT TO TERMINAL? NEED TO KILL MOZILAL FIREFOX! 13:32 VanessaE it's in the Accessories menu 13:32 Jordach hey VanessaE, mauvebic 13:32 VanessaE I don't know the shortcut (I reprogrammed it) 13:33 VanessaE KikaRz: you could try the command entry window - Alt-F2 13:33 VanessaE "killall firefox" 13:33 mauvebic hey jordach 13:33 KikaRz ... 13:33 KikaRz not necessary 13:34 KikaRz i killed firefox, synaptic and much more with Alt + F4 by error. 13:34 KikaRz ,,, 13:35 KikaRz VanessaE 13:35 KikaRz Minetest is compiled 13:35 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 13:35 KikaRz successfully. 13:35 VanessaE hey PilzAdam. 13:35 * Jordach grabs a bag of MONSTER mUNCH 13:35 KikaRz whats the shortcut to change of screen? 13:35 KikaRz the top dont works 13:35 VanessaE change of screen? 13:35 KikaRz fuck this speakers 13:36 KikaRz they are making interference with ghosts. 13:36 KikaRz yes 13:36 KikaRz Screen 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 13:36 KikaRz that multi screen 13:36 KikaRz in linux 13:36 VanessaE oh 13:36 VanessaE roll the mouse wheel over your wallpaper 13:36 VanessaE I don't know the shortcut - I don't use multiple desktops, just two separate monitors. 13:37 KikaRz cant 13:37 KikaRz i cant access anything 13:37 KikaRz Welcome back (for the 3rd time) rubenwardy 13:37 VanessaE I'm afraid I don't understand 13:39 KikaRz my pc is fucking stupid 13:39 KikaRz VanessaE, no problem, its solved. 13:40 KikaRz so, what you doing? 13:40 VanessaE catching up on the forums 13:42 KikaRz Ok 13:42 KikaRz i was compiling the minetest 13:43 rubenwardy oin minetst 13:43 rubenwardy j 13:43 KikaRz and... it works perfectly 13:43 KikaRz just 1 problem 13:43 KikaRz rubenwardy, you were sleeping alive. 13:43 KikaRz VanessaE, you want to know the problem and solve it? 13:43 VanessaE ? 13:44 KikaRz its the textures 13:44 KikaRz in the inventory 13:44 VanessaE not enough video memory. 13:45 VanessaE or a bad driver. 13:45 VanessaE those are the usual causes of that bug. 13:45 VanessaE lots of people have had that happen. 13:45 KikaRz when we pickup something or break wood 13:45 KikaRz it appears that the texture is at the reverse 13:45 KikaRz wait , going to show you a print 13:46 KikaRz http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-09-12-2012-122358.php 13:46 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr 13:46 KikaRz look to the bar of inventory 13:47 KikaRz are you seeing VanessaE? 13:47 VanessaE I see it 13:47 VanessaE I do not know the solution 13:47 KikaRz its not the cache 13:47 VanessaE all textures do that, or only just some? 13:47 KikaRz idk 13:48 KikaRz ah 13:48 KikaRz just some 13:48 KikaRz like Wood, tree, stone, cobble... 13:48 KikaRz many nodes... 13:48 KikaRz but not leaves, 13:48 * VanessaE shrugs.. I don't know why it's doing that. 13:48 KikaRz im trying to do this 13:48 KikaRz http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu 13:48 moltenbot KikaRz's link: How to Access Windows Files in Ubuntu: 7 steps - wikiHow 13:49 KikaRz to get there my world 13:49 VanessaE PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual. 13:50 VanessaE KikaRz: your world file is not the problem - it's most likely your video driver, especially if you're using something like nouveau or VESA or so. 13:50 VanessaE that said, the engine does need to be fixed to handle these various corner cases far better 13:51 KikaRz not the world file. 13:51 KikaRz -.- 13:51 KikaRz its to get my world 13:51 KikaRz to play in 0.4.4 linux 13:51 KikaRz ... 13:51 VanessaE oh I see what you meant. 13:51 KikaRz i want to copy my world file to linux 13:51 VanessaE well Ubuntu should have mounted your windows drive and put it on the desktop 13:51 KikaRz then, ill play with it 13:51 VanessaE it normally does that now 13:51 KikaRz nope 13:51 KikaRz not happening 13:52 VanessaE I dunno then - I've not used windows since the win95 days 13:52 KikaRz why i cant find Partition editor in System (menu) ? 13:52 VanessaE because you installed via Wubi I guess. there are no partitions to edit, and that's not how you access win files anyway 13:53 KikaRz no 13:53 KikaRz not that 13:54 KikaRz Well done! 13:54 KikaRz I know executing programs by terminal 13:54 KikaRz xd 13:54 VanessaE having a machine infected with windows is bad for your health :-) 13:56 Jordach bullshit 13:56 Jordach VanessaE - i use windows 13:56 VanessaE He uses Windows!? The poor schmuck... 13:56 VanessaE ;-) 13:57 KikaRz stupid Abe. 13:57 VanessaE hohoho 13:57 Jordach go on, freedom is a false sense of mind 13:57 KikaRz VanessaE 13:57 KikaRz can i try minetest in your server? :P 13:58 Jordach we are not allowed to "DO AS WE" please 13:58 VanessaE Way to get in my good graces there, Jordach :-) 13:58 VanessaE KikaRz: if you want, sure 13:58 * Jordach cant tell if its VanessaE or Abe 13:58 KikaRz vanessaE 13:58 KikaRz 24.181.193.82:30000 ? 13:58 VanessaE Jordach: I'm just relaying what he's saying 13:58 Jordach heh 13:59 VanessaE KikaRz: that's right 13:59 KikaRz VanessaE, that ip =? 13:59 KikaRz i removed the ip from your whois 14:00 VanessaE copied. 14:00 KikaRz conclusion: 14:00 KikaRz Media downloading is faster in Linux than Windows 14:01 VanessaE cool 14:02 KikaRz lol 14:02 iqualfragile is it? 14:02 KikaRz anunakki, how i get a null host ? 14:02 KikaRz yep 14:02 iqualfragile media downloading is slow in general 14:02 iqualfragile it does not use the full bandwidth 14:03 VanessaE nope, definitely not 14:03 KikaRz VanessaE, i joined. 14:03 VanessaE UDP is not meant for such things 14:03 VanessaE KikaRz: I know, I see you 14:03 KikaRz Not that 14:03 KikaRz i joined in server 14:03 KikaRz already 14:03 KikaRz not just char there 14:03 VanessaE KikaRz: I know, I see you on the server 14:03 KikaRz i see you static 14:03 VanessaE from my end I can see you before you are actually "in" 14:04 KikaRz wait 14:04 KikaRz console downloading 14:04 KikaRz almost there 14:04 KikaRz 90% 14:04 KikaRz 95 14:05 KikaRz hi? 14:05 VanessaE hi 14:05 KikaRz my game is frozen 14:05 KikaRz can you teleport me to you? 14:05 VanessaE let it finish. 14:05 KikaRz /teleport KikaRz VanessaE 14:05 KikaRz its finished 14:05 VanessaE andI'm right next to you. 14:05 KikaRz OMG 14:05 KikaRz IM LAGGING 14:05 KikaRz go away from there and teleport me 14:06 KikaRz game down 14:06 * Jordach signs in like a boss 14:06 VanessaE teleported you to the spawn 14:06 KikaRz my game crashed 14:06 VanessaE yup, you just timed out just now 14:07 KikaRz Welcome back NekoGloop 14:07 KikaRz I see that you have an ipv8 14:07 VanessaE good morning neko. 14:07 KikaRz :P 14:07 VanessaE ipv6. 14:07 KikaRz or that 14:07 * Jordach is stuck at 50% downloaded. 14:08 Jordach VanessaE - haul your servers ass# 14:08 VanessaE sowwy 14:08 VanessaE maybe new media downloads 14:08 VanessaE I've been updating some mods 14:08 KikaRz entering 14:08 VanessaE ah there you are 14:08 devlab brb 14:08 NekoGloop I have an ipad 14:08 KikaRz i've an ifode. 14:08 KikaRz :P 14:09 NekoGloop Cant help that it automagically does ipv6 14:09 KikaRz search in google 14:09 NekoGloop Glogle doesnt help 14:09 VanessaE KikaRz: go over to the rollercoaster. 14:13 whirm1 Minetest should add swift support to download the media 14:14 Zeg9 VanessaE, can you put this skin for me ? 14:14 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ21ucA 14:15 whirm1 it uses UDP and is capable of using the full bandwidth without causing lag, it only uses the unused bandwith 14:15 whirm1 and it's p2p 14:21 PilzAdam PilzAdam: why not push sdzen's fork of player_textures to master? it's very useful on servers, if a bit manual. <- I have updated the forum post to mention both versions 14:21 VanessaE Zeg9: I will soon 14:23 PilzAdam bbl 14:24 grondilu omg I'v actually managed to connect to a server. That's cool, considering I have no advanced graphics card 14:33 grondilu lol I'm in a very tall building and there is a cloud that goes through the walls 14:35 Jordach WTF 14:35 Jordach There are FRAGMENTS OF GOOGLE CHROME RENDERINGS IN MINETEST. 14:39 NekoGloop ....? 14:41 Jordach NekoGloop - i freaked 14:41 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/YQok6.png and http://i.imgur.com/4OUb5.png 14:41 Jordach note under the white brick. 14:41 Jordach thats from twitter 14:42 Jordach and parts of Planet Minecraft in there too 14:44 grondilu I'm stuck in water. Ain't I supposed to go up if I press the space bar? 14:44 NekoGloop Yeah 14:44 NekoGloop But if you have <5fps you are lagging too much to do so 14:46 NekoGloop And also hold the spacebar too 14:48 brobostigon turning fly on, might help. 14:48 NekoGloop How about a non cheat method? 14:49 Jordach bug report filed: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347 14:49 moltenbot Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 14:49 brobostigon NekoGloop: flying is not cheating, what is you fall down a casm, while digging a tunnel? you have no way out, but that. 14:50 NekoGloop Yes you do 14:50 NekoGloop Its called digging. 14:50 brobostigon its their for a reason, and i like it, :) 14:51 NekoGloop Cheater. 14:51 brobostigon ohwell. 14:52 Jordach VanessaE - could look over minetest issue #347 14:54 * VanessaE looks... 14:59 Jordach VanessaE - notice the two screenshots. 15:00 VanessaE weird... 15:00 VanessaE of course you know c55 will blame RBA, since that's his inventory mod :-) 15:01 KikaRz '-' 15:01 KikaRz lol 15:02 Jordach yeah. but this also happens in the default creative 15:03 VanessaE you should make a note of that in the issue 15:03 KikaRz RealBadAngel, discovered one thing on your invetory. 15:04 KikaRz *inventory 15:04 KikaRz In the Miscallaneous, there is Set Day and Set Night. 15:04 KikaRz that could be used just for server owners 15:04 KikaRz not all players 15:04 VanessaE KikaRz: I already let him know about that 15:04 VanessaE those buttons should require settime priv, imho, 15:04 KikaRz yep 15:04 KikaRz not that only 15:05 KikaRz those buttons should make commands: 15:05 KikaRz /time 6000 15:05 KikaRz and /time 12000 (i guess) 15:05 VanessaE no 15:05 VanessaE /time 6000 and /time 19000 15:05 KikaRz that. 15:06 rubenwardy I have a fork of a github repo, and i am using github on Ubuntu. How do I update changes made in the main repo, to my fork one 15:06 VanessaE at present I think they set 12000 and 0 or something 15:06 VanessaE rubenwardy: just git pull with the pull URL set to the original repo 15:06 VanessaE and git push with the push URL set to yours 15:06 rubenwardy $ git pull http://...../asinja.git ? 15:07 VanessaE git remote set-url --push origin git@github.com/rubenwardy/blahblah.git 15:07 VanessaE then just git push 15:07 VanessaE a git pull will probably pull from the main repo anyway if you forked it via github's web interface 15:08 Jordach VanessaE posts / comment updated 15:08 VanessaE er, there should be a colon in that 'remote' line up there, you get the idea. 15:08 rubenwardy fatal: 'git@github.com/rubenwardy/minetest.net.git' does not appear to be a git repository 15:08 rubenwardy fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly 15:09 VanessaE rubenwardy: sorry, 'git@github.com:rubenwardy/minetest.net.git' 15:09 VanessaE with a colon 15:09 VanessaE or just copy&paste it from your github page :-) 15:09 rubenwardy Permission denied (publickey). 15:09 rubenwardy fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly 15:12 Jordach PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/347 15:12 moltenbot Jordach's link: GPU Memory Fragments. ? Issue #347 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 15:15 OldCoder VanessaE, Your world is now mirrored as 30017 for the moment at minetest.org. We'll keep it unchanged for now so you can update your own copy. When you are ready I wish you to visit my copy and record your places using the Places mod. 15:16 VanessaE ok 15:21 Jordach VanessaE - there is a happy ending for me 15:21 NekoGloop NakedFury: Ello 15:21 NakedFury hey 15:21 Jordach at least it did not head for the next few megs over 15:21 VanessaE Jordach: eh? 15:21 Jordach ;) 15:22 Jordach after twitter i went somewhere else 15:22 KikaRz VanessaE 15:22 KikaRz Until you restart server and back it up 15:22 KikaRz ill see mesecons 15:22 KikaRz and get some food 15:22 Jordach it "just missed" the vram area for it 15:22 VanessaE ok, it's back up. 15:24 VanessaE OldCoder: please re-download http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip 15:24 VanessaE KikaRz, jin_xi, Jordach (and others too), the server's already back 15:25 Jordach i was not there 15:25 Jordach just honk the users that are playing it!! 15:25 KikaRz ok VanessaE 15:25 Jordach s/honk/ping 15:25 VanessaE so get back there and build something practical then :-) 15:25 KikaRz Jordach, you're not allowed to go to my place 15:25 Jordach like my 512k ram pack 15:25 KikaRz if you continue planting there some trees, you die. 15:25 Jordach i use microcontrollers and pistons 15:26 Jordach (which alternate a status of the mesecon wire) 15:27 KikaRz mesecon's site? 15:27 * Jordach also knows a turning machine using movestones 15:27 Jordach s/turning/turing 15:27 KikaRz oh, mesecons.tk 15:28 Zeg9 back, 'sup? 15:29 Jordach blarg 15:29 Jordach still doing it 15:29 Jeija http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4013 << I launched my second mesecons machine competition. There are some "speed challenges". The first one to send a map in ist the winner of them. 15:29 moltenbot Jeija's link: Mesecons machine competiton 2.0! (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 15:30 VanessaE Jeija: go to 24.181.193.82 port 30000 (with 0.4.4-release) and try the roller coaster :-) 15:30 VanessaE PilzAdam's carts in place - they're jittery and jumpy but functional. 15:30 VanessaE uses mesecons :-) 15:32 OldCoder VanessaE, proceeding 15:32 Jeija VanessaE: I joined, but transferring the media takes a while... 15:33 KikaRz Jeija 15:33 KikaRz if i send a blank map 15:33 KikaRz what you do? 15:33 VanessaE yeah it'll take a while. 15:33 KikaRz .-. 15:35 Jordach VanessaE 15:35 Jordach come to me now 15:37 OldCoder Calinou, hello 15:38 KikaRz VansesaE 15:38 KikaRz *VanessaE 15:38 KikaRz i wanted to: 15:39 KikaRz When pressing 4 right buttons, 15:39 KikaRz open a door 15:39 VanessaE use AND gates. 15:39 KikaRz how? 15:40 OldCoder VanessaE, world updated and converted again to LevelDB. This can be repeated as often as you like for a while. I see a large unknown block. 15:40 VanessaE where? 15:40 VanessaE screenshot? 15:41 OldCoder 90.5,11.5,184.1 15:41 OldCoder screenshot would take a few minutes. Perhaps visit? 15:41 VanessaE ok, on my way, 15:42 OldCoder Inside house 15:43 OldCoder Yes 15:43 VanessaE OldCoder: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 15:43 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 15:43 OldCoder VanessaE, the _game uses the ZIP you gave me last night 15:43 OldCoder Have you updated that ZIP ? 15:44 OldCoder Zeg9, this copy of the world is probably temporary 15:44 OldCoder VanessaE, as I am using your _game why isn't it working? 15:45 OldCoder VanessaE, he sees your 3D skin without 3D support yet 15:45 OldCoder It is... abstract 15:45 KikaRz GRR 15:45 KikaRz VanessaE 15:45 KikaRz my computer frozen 15:45 KikaRz with minetest opened 15:45 KikaRz i had to Alt + F4 15:45 VanessaE OldCoder: I added the computers mod afterward. 15:45 OldCoder O.K. 15:45 OldCoder Reupload _game ZIP ? 15:46 VanessaE just download the missing mod :-) 15:46 OldCoder Very busy but O.K. 15:46 OldCoder VanessaE, any chance you'll post a direct download link? 15:46 OldCoder nvm 15:47 VanessaE I'll re-upload the zip of the game if you want. 15:48 Zeg9 VanessaE, http://ompldr.org/vZ21wOQ 15:48 VanessaE oh weird. 15:48 KikaRz LOL 15:48 VanessaE oh I know why 15:48 KikaRz well, VanessaE 15:49 VanessaE oldcoder uses my copy of vanessa_game which has the player_textures mod in it, which has only 3d textures. 15:49 Zeg9 Must be that 15:50 VanessaE OldCoder: you will either need to update the server to 0.4.4 or delete the player_textures mod from that game. 15:50 VanessaE brb 15:50 KikaRz brb 15:50 KikaRz back 15:50 KikaRz the scissors is here 15:52 OldCoder Zeg9, VanessaE, restarting world with computers added 15:53 KikaRz OK 15:53 OldCoder Will add computers to other worlds too I think 15:53 Zeg9 OldCoder, I think you should remove carts, or put the old version. I guess carts 2.0 will just crash the server 15:53 OldCoder Zeg9, from which world? 15:53 Zeg9 VanessaE's 15:53 KikaRz Vanessa, im joining 15:54 Zeg9 I vote yes for computers 15:54 KikaRz lol 15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, I am using the version that she is using; should they still go? Ask her 15:54 KikaRz OldCoder, you're not hoster of VanessaE server 15:54 KikaRz xd 15:54 OldCoder KikaRz, I am of this copy 15:54 KikaRz lol 15:54 Zeg9 No, she is using carts 2.0 and it only works with 0.4.4 15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon 15:54 Zeg9 ...I just crashed the server by trying x) 15:54 OldCoder Zeg9, ah! But I will update to 0.4.4 soon. Possibly tomorrow or Tuesday 15:54 Zeg9 Alright 15:57 Jordach mesecon impossibility 15:57 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eHWjw.png 15:59 OldCoder computers will appear in most worlds on next rebuild 16:00 Calinou in ten days, add tablet/smartphone mod, then noone will use computers 8D 16:00 NakedFury are you gonna build from source too? 16:00 OldCoder NakedFury, who are you addressing? 16:00 NakedFury you 16:01 OldCoder NakedFury, I don't understand. How would I proceed without building from source? 16:01 NakedFury dont know, downloading someone elses already compiled version 16:01 Zeg9 There is no point to do that. 16:02 OldCoder NakedFury, would not work 16:02 OldCoder So yes will build from source 16:03 OldCoder mrtux, wb 16:03 VanessaE NakedFury: he uses a moderately-patched version - code patches taken from various forks or something 16:03 VanessaE especially LevelDB. no pre-compiled copy will do for that. 16:03 NakedFury well I will be waiting for it 16:03 OldCoder VanessaE, even aside from that builds are required for servers for best results 16:11 babyface1031 OldCoder: are you updateing all worlds to 4.4 16:12 OldCoder babyface1031, If it works and is safe 16:12 OldCoder All existing stuff must continue to run 16:12 babyface1031 ok i just wanted to know so i know to download 4.4 or not :) 16:13 OldCoder babyface1031, Not yet 16:13 VanessaE babyface1031: ZERO POINT four point four :-) 16:13 OldCoder I will build new clients 16:13 VanessaE babyface1031: the leading zero is not optional. 16:14 VanessaE 16:21 paxcoder yeah 16:23 VanessaE hrm...there's no decent "stained glass" mod? Not even just colored glass edges? 16:23 VanessaE guess I'm gonna have to do something about that.. 16:25 markveidemanis VANESSAE 16:25 markveidemanis what mod do u use for skins 16:28 PilzAdam player_textures 16:31 rubenwardy Doesnt the new 3d player thingy have it built in? 16:33 PilzAdam rubenwardy, no; its a mod 16:33 VanessaE that one, in particular: https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures 16:33 moltenbot VanessaE's link: sdzen/player_textures ? GitHub 16:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: is it possible to make entities use the new 3d models system? 16:44 PilzAdam sure 16:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: maybe that would get around the iniability to pitch the,m 16:44 VanessaE them* 16:45 VanessaE since one can move legs/arms in such ways already 16:45 PilzAdam read lua-api.txt 16:45 VanessaE that was supposed to be a suggestion for you to use ;-) 16:46 PilzAdam well, i never used blender before 16:47 VanessaE me neither. 16:51 NakedFury could nodes use the 3d model system? and when can we expect the ability to place individual or better textures for weird nodes? 16:51 PilzAdam nodes cant use the 3D models 16:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, so I guess 3d-model-based carts with proper pitch and turn controls will be ready in a few minutes then? ;-) 16:53 * VanessaE waits...... :D 16:53 thexyz PilzAdam: why no? 16:54 PilzAdam what? 16:54 thexyz (20:51:26) PilzAdam: nodes cant use the 3D models 16:54 PilzAdam only entities can use it 16:55 NakedFury then we still need the ability to paint non cube-ish nodes how we want 16:56 thexyz weren't we talking about possibility? 17:14 OldCoder mauvebic, wb 17:17 mauvebic hey oldcoder 17:18 OldCoder o/ 17:31 rubenwardy bye all 17:32 KikaRz VanessaE 17:32 KikaRz what happened to serve? 17:33 VanessaE what? it seems fine to me 17:59 KikaRz what F10 does in linux? 18:00 Zeg9 Console, but on debian based systems it often crashes 18:00 KikaRz ubuntu isnt based in debian... 18:01 KikaRz but crashed my game 18:01 KikaRz xd 18:01 Zeg9 ubuntu IS based on debian 18:01 KikaRz too bad. 18:01 KikaRz is? 18:01 KikaRz ti? 18:01 Zeg9 apt-get is from debian... 18:01 KikaRz *is it? 18:01 KikaRz ok 18:01 KikaRz how to install adobe flash ? 18:02 Zeg9 sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer 18:03 Zeg9 you can use gnash instead if you want 18:03 KikaRz already tried it 18:03 PilzAdam KikaRz, i told you yesterday already 18:03 KikaRz gnash dont works 18:03 KikaRz on firefox 18:04 KikaRz [sudo] password for joao: 18:04 KikaRz E: Operação flashplugin-installer inválida 18:04 KikaRz Operation flashplugin-installer invalid 18:04 KikaRz or invalid operation 18:04 KikaRz idk 18:04 PilzAdam you forgot the install 18:05 PilzAdam its apt-get install flash... 18:05 KikaRz installing google chrome first. 18:06 thexyz you're on linux, use chromium 18:06 KikaRz or chromium 18:07 Oebele hello 18:07 KikaRz i downloaded by google.com/chrome 18:07 KikaRz that works? 18:07 KikaRz Hi Oebele, Welcome 18:08 Zeg9 just use chromium 18:08 Zeg9 sudo apt-get install chromium-browser 18:08 Zeg9 But chrome will work too; if you really want their logo 18:08 Oebele Hi KikaRz, thanks 18:09 KikaRz Zeg9. 18:09 KikaRz dont care about that 18:09 Oebele I noticed the website claims that the debian package can be "Found in Apt.", but this is not entirely true, as this is only the case for wheezy(testing) and sid(unstable). Not for squeeze(stable) 18:09 NakedFury can chromium use google chrome apps? 18:09 Zeg9 It can use anything chrome can 18:10 KikaRz chromium is the source code of google chrome 18:10 NakedFury ok so if its the same whats the deal with chromium? 18:10 KikaRz nothing 18:10 NakedFury ohh so its just some stupid hate on google? 18:11 thexyz chrome is closed-source version of chromium 18:11 NakedFury arrr lets hate on all companies that create profit arrrr yeah arrr 18:12 NakedFury that is what I have seen from almost all linux users 18:12 NakedFury the image they have created in me 18:12 NakedFury god forbid some programmers make money from their code 18:12 NakedFury thats evil 18:13 NakedFury back in a bit 18:13 Calinou installing google chrome first. 18:13 Calinou you're on linux, use chromium 18:13 Calinou chromium works in any os 18:13 Calinou chrome works on linux too 18:13 Calinou but chromium is open source, chrome is not 18:14 Calinou they both do the same things 18:17 Oebele so, where can I download minetest for debian? 18:17 brobostigon Oebele: it is within the debian repos. 18:19 markveidemanis Zeg9 18:21 Oebele brobostigon: not in squeeze, that's the whole issue. Anyway, I am installing it now via pinning 18:22 KikaRz i did shit 18:22 KikaRz now i cant install / uninstall any package. 18:22 brobostigon Oebele: i use testing and sid, ah, ohwell. 18:22 KikaRz i forced my pc to shutdown 18:22 KikaRz now i have to 18:22 KikaRz sudo apt-get install -f 18:23 RealBadAngel hi all 18:23 KikaRz Hi RealBadAngel 18:23 KikaRz XD 18:23 RealBadAngel whassup? 18:23 KikaRz i broken my linux 18:23 RealBadAngel better linux than a heart 18:23 RealBadAngel ;) 18:23 KikaRz o.o 18:24 PilzAdam hi RBA 18:24 KikaRz you prefer breaking linux than breaking your hearth 18:24 KikaRz you prefer breaking linux than breaking your heart* ? 18:24 RealBadAngel safer ;) 18:24 KikaRz now i dont have updates 18:24 Zeg9 Hello RealBadAngel 18:25 KikaRz RealBadAngel is in love. 18:25 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/unified_inventory.zip 18:26 KikaRz YAAAY 18:26 KikaRz UPDATES ARE BACK! 18:26 RealBadAngel its almost ready, need just some final touches, but it is functional 18:29 RealBadAngel only a few special instances of crafting recipes have to be done 18:29 RealBadAngel i mean group,:dye, basecolor 18:29 RealBadAngel and technic ones, alloy cookin and grinding 18:29 KikaRz in 1 week, ill be here playing, building, demolishing, etc! 18:30 KikaRz hey 18:30 KikaRz Real Bad Angel 18:30 RealBadAngel but UI side is ready 18:30 RealBadAngel what? 18:31 RealBadAngel woof :P 18:31 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs 18:31 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist ? Alice Human Sacrifice (English) ? Request - YouTube 18:32 NakedFury RealBadAngel is it still the black semi transparent game texture or can we finally give it one? 18:33 RealBadAngel NakedFury, you mean UI background? 18:33 NakedFury yes 18:33 RealBadAngel of course we can 18:33 RealBadAngel theres a topic in forums with 1st one brave enough 18:33 * VanessaE pokes RealBadAngel 18:33 NakedFury must have missed it 18:34 KikaRz make that: 18:34 NekoGloop VanessaE: nice shot with the forum post 18:34 VanessaE ? 18:34 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4001 18:34 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: [Mod] XGUI [0.1][xgui] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 18:35 NakedFury omg awesome 18:35 VanessaE oh. 18:35 RealBadAngel howdy VanessaE ? 18:35 VanessaE RBA knows my opinion of that image :-) 18:35 RealBadAngel yup :) 18:35 RealBadAngel but folks can do such things now 18:35 NakedFury opinion of how awesome it is to have proper inventory backgrounds? 18:35 RealBadAngel all is about the taste 18:36 RealBadAngel not about if it is possible 18:36 NakedFury hmm we still cant do the hotbars? 18:36 KikaRz if technic is installed, add buttons to invetory. 18:37 RealBadAngel im preparing also custom skin for UI 18:37 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_2163561105.png 18:37 VanessaE my new roller coaster :-) 18:37 VanessaE (also developed in part by PilzAdam) 18:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: this one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2734 18:38 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Go away (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 18:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: oh. 18:39 RealBadAngel NakedFury, we will get to hotbars and HUD stuff 18:39 VanessaE NekoGloop: please don't blank your posts like that. 18:39 RealBadAngel one step at the time 18:40 NekoGloop VanessaE: nice trick, hiding your name from the "edit by" 18:40 VanessaE NekoGloop: actually that's a bug in the forums, it defaults to silent edit for mods. I'd have preferred the opposite. 18:40 KikaRz my pc is lagging>! 18:40 VanessaE I tend to forget to uncheck it. 18:40 * Zeg9 gotta go, bye everyone 18:41 VanessaE ciao Zeg9 18:42 KikaRz going to try supertux 2 18:42 KikaRz VanessaE 18:42 VanessaE ok 18:42 KikaRz soon ill go back to server 18:42 NekoGloop If i want my mod to disappear, then i have every right to let it do so. 18:42 NakedFury the forum isnt a democracy 18:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: sure, but you don't have the right to blank your posts. c55 has already made that clear. 18:43 KikaRz MY SUPER TUX IS ALL BUGGED UP! 18:43 NekoGloop yes i do 18:43 NekoGloop my post. my property. 18:43 NekoGloop i can destroy it if i want. 18:43 thexyz VanessaE: should we add this to rules? 18:43 KikaRz NekoGloop 18:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: your post, your property - within the forum's rules. there is a reason c55 removed the "delete post" option from regular users. 18:43 KikaRz if you're talking about GloopOres, that mod sucks 18:44 Jordach which i fucking miss dearly 18:44 VanessaE thexyz: in my opinion yes, but that's up to c55, ultimately. 18:44 NekoGloop All my mods suck. 18:44 KikaRz can you list me up all mods? 18:44 VanessaE if they sucks, I wouldn't have gloopores on my server... 18:44 VanessaE sucked* 18:44 NekoGloop And there is a delete post button 18:45 KikaRz ok! so delete id 18:45 KikaRz *it 18:45 KikaRz :) 18:45 thexyz nope 18:45 NekoGloop just not on top posts. 18:45 KikaRz topics* 18:45 KikaRz the good of not having flash player 18:45 KikaRz is for Ads 18:45 KikaRz from google ads 18:45 KikaRz that suck 18:45 MiJyn just install an adblocker 18:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's not supposed to actually work anymore. C55 explicitly disabled that function to keep regular users from deleting posts and screwing up conversations or causing potentially useful info to disappear. 18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: get AdBlockPlus. 18:46 KikaRz ... (chromium) 18:46 NekoGloop Well obviously he screwed that up 18:46 VanessaE KikaRz: there's an adblock plugin for that also. 18:46 MiJyn VanessaE, I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to delete our own posts 18:47 MiJyn KikaRz, Chromium has the best adblocking addon 18:47 NakedFury the reason why there is no delete post button is because it will mess up any discussion in the threads 18:48 VanessaE NekoGloop: what was the license of that mod anyway? WTFPL I assume? 18:49 NekoGloop it's called DE 18:49 NekoGloop "Doesnt Exist" 18:49 NakedFury it was WTFPL 18:49 NakedFury I have the mod 18:49 thexyz mods.minetest.ru has it too 18:50 VanessaE anyone got the version that had animated torches? 18:50 MiJyn NakedFury, but someone could still edit a post removing all contents 18:50 MiJyn And then it just clutters up the forum 18:51 NakedFury yeah they can do such dickish moves too 18:51 KikaRz VanessaE, your server still on? 18:51 VanessaE KikaRz: yes. 18:52 KikaRz can you help me with my buildings? *_* 18:52 thexyz MiJyn: and nothing can be done to prevent this 18:52 thexyz except disabling edits, which is not fine 18:53 VanessaE there. Sorry NekoGloop. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4014 18:53 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Ores [1.1] [gloopores] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 18:54 NekoGloop you do know that simply by uttering my name in the post, no one is going to download it? 18:54 thexyz we should add this rule to mod releases "Forum information and guidelines" 18:54 VanessaE maybe, maybe not. With my name attached to it as well, that might change. 18:55 VanessaE not to say I'm a big macher on the forums, but who knows. 18:55 thexyz NekoGloop: is this called "attention whore"? i'm not sure.. 18:55 NekoGloop thexyz: no, its the opposite 18:55 NekoGloop i DONT want attention 18:55 thexyz lol 18:55 NakedFury anyone can help Revenantx on delta channel? 18:56 MiJyn thexyz, so if a user can do that, and (s)he wants to delete the post, (s)he would just do that, so why not let the user delete the post so that the forum won't be cluttered with posts like: "Nevermind this post" 18:56 thexyz that's why you're always like "i'm so awful, somebody, pity me" 18:57 NekoGloop if you all stopped bringing it back up, i would not talk about it 18:57 thexyz we can't stop talking about it until all mods are reuploaded 18:58 KikaRz VanessaE, can you help me with my buidling? 18:58 RealBadAngel if you could stop behavin as cheap cheerleader slapped in the ass it would be just great 18:58 VanessaE KikaRz: shortly 18:58 KikaRz going to server 18:58 KikaRz when will someone make a converter 18:59 KikaRz of minecraft to minetest? 18:59 KikaRz map 18:59 RealBadAngel no1 ever will 18:59 KikaRz why? 18:59 RealBadAngel we are goin to be better 18:59 KikaRz Not for that. 19:00 VanessaE ok, toolsizes 1.0 and gloopblocks are now mirrored on my site 19:00 KikaRz to convert my world 19:00 KikaRz that incomplete one 19:00 VanessaE any others I missed? 19:00 NekoGloop yeah, like everything? 19:00 VanessaE like what? 19:00 NekoGloop well, the good mods anyway. 19:00 VanessaE I can only remember those three. 19:00 RealBadAngel the day will come that some1 will ask notch for possibility of conversion mt worlds 19:00 NekoGloop or, the ones that had some use to someone 19:01 RealBadAngel he will pass that on Jeb of course 19:01 KikaRz VanessaE 19:01 KikaRz can you send me your ip ? 19:01 RealBadAngel but anyways this day will come soon 19:01 VanessaE KikaRz: 24.181.193.82:30000 write it down :-) 19:02 KikaRz not for that 19:02 KikaRz its to save in fucking minetest.conf 19:03 VanessaE KikaRz and others, server going down for a moment. 19:03 KikaRz going to join just when will shutdown for a moment. 19:04 KikaRz ... 19:04 KikaRz thats too smart. 19:04 KikaRz so 19:04 KikaRz its on? 19:04 VanessaE ok, server is up. 19:05 VanessaE and now gloop blocks and toolsizes are in. 19:05 KikaRz joining 19:05 NekoGloop *crash* 19:05 NekoGloop you broke it 19:05 KikaRz more media to download? 19:05 VanessaE kika: a bit, yes. 19:05 RealBadAngel how would you know 19:05 KikaRz only for that fucking damn mod? 19:05 RealBadAngel youre playin mc 19:06 NekoGloop because toolsizes takes a lot. 19:06 KikaRz No im not RealBadAngel 19:06 KikaRz MC dont works here 19:06 NekoGloop and rba, I'm not playing anything right now. 19:06 RealBadAngel he does 19:06 RealBadAngel the kitty 19:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: 20 pages of items in the creative inventory now :-) 19:07 RealBadAngel ha ha ha, laughed the quenn and went away to wash some socks :P 19:07 * marktraceur waves 19:07 NakedFury RealBadAngel to use that inventory on a server would it have to be creative or can it be used by admins or players with the proper permission? 19:08 RealBadAngel its universal 19:08 KikaRz i love that inventory because arent needed privs 19:08 KikaRz to set night or day 19:08 RealBadAngel if in creative buttons will add items 19:08 KikaRz xd 19:09 RealBadAngel if in surrival, they serve just for crafting guide 19:10 RealBadAngel mod checks for creative flag 19:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, move it: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55841 19:10 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Boats [boats] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 19:11 NakedFury wished there was a way to use it in non creative servers 19:11 NekoGloop let's see. New versions are now CC-ND-BY-SA 19:12 Jordach okay, IM ON A BOAT PilzAdam 19:12 thexyz nd? 19:12 Jordach no derivs 19:12 RealBadAngel AND-BRG-A-BEER 19:12 RealBadAngel v3.0 19:12 mauvebic -BEER 19:12 RealBadAngel good license 19:12 thexyz i mean, we should forbid nd 19:12 NekoGloop thexyz: whY? 19:12 Jordach VanessaE - you make a great server op 19:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, gimme a sec 19:13 thexyz and probably NC too 19:13 NekoGloop if i dont wanna let you steal my code, then you shouldnt be allowed to 19:13 VanessaE Jordach: how;'s that? 19:13 Jordach we always know whats happened 19:13 thexyz NekoGloop: well, not forbid, but don't allow such mods to be moved to Releases section 19:13 mauvebic that would only apply to the forums anyhow 19:13 RealBadAngel thexyz, have you helped Oldoder to merge levelDB? 19:13 NekoGloop thexyz: why? 19:13 RealBadAngel *Oldcoder 19:14 NekoGloop thexyz: because of the selfishness of theives like yourself? 19:14 thexyz RealBadAngel: well, I explained him everything 19:14 thexyz seems it worked fine for him 19:14 RealBadAngel good 19:14 RealBadAngel thx 19:14 thexyz NekoGloop: yes 19:14 thexyz because of that 19:14 thexyz definetly 19:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: what's it look like? screenshot? 19:14 NekoGloop well then i'm definitely releasing them in CC-ND-BY-SA 19:14 PilzAdam it currently looks ugly so no screenshot 19:14 VanessaE haha ok 19:15 thexyz NekoGloop: sure 19:15 VanessaE moved. 19:15 NakedFury thexyz what are the NC and NC? 19:15 VanessaE NakedFury: Non-commercial 19:15 thexyz will wait for next version with ND 19:15 NekoGloop (basically, that CC means you can share it, but only exactly as-is and with credit to me 19:15 VanessaE and No-Derivatives 19:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, also install it on your server 19:15 RealBadAngel thexyz, hopefully we will get back servers with 0.4.4 and db 19:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, one sec. 19:15 NakedFury ohh thanks 19:15 RealBadAngel im lookin for it 19:15 thexyz NekoGloop: when are you planning to release it? 19:15 KikaRz Noooo 19:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: done. 19:17 NekoGloop or, make that CC-BY-NC-ND 19:17 KikaRz did you restarted it? 19:17 VanessaE yes. 19:17 KikaRz Nooo 19:17 NekoGloop You can't touch my code. So go the fuck away. 19:17 RealBadAngel personally i do like WTFPL 19:18 RealBadAngel and added credits 19:18 Jordach i prefer fuck off open sourceists 19:18 KikaRz waht the fuck public license ? 19:18 KikaRz XD 19:18 Jordach my code: my rules 19:18 NekoGloop my code = you cant have it 19:18 RealBadAngel not really 19:18 RealBadAngel our community, our experience, our rules 19:18 Jordach and VanessaE's server takes forever 19:19 Jordach >:( 19:19 NakedFury the only license to use should be my code use as you like with credits to me. no other 19:20 RealBadAngel some1 already said, that minetest forums is biggest source of wtfpl contens 19:20 RealBadAngel let us keep it this way 19:21 RealBadAngel it can only help game to grow 19:21 thexyz umm.. i guess i need to cast marktraceur right here 19:21 RealBadAngel yup 19:21 marktraceur thexyz: Hi, what's up? 19:22 RealBadAngel hes corporate guy 19:22 RealBadAngel hes very aware of licences 19:22 thexyz marktraceur: they don't like free licenses =( 19:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: People who don't care to work on a proper licensing strategy are the bane of free culture. They make it so ultimately, when something is licensed improperly, *nobody* can use it because there's no licensing intent. 19:23 NekoGloop Mine will be lisenced properly 19:23 NekoGloop CC-BY-NC-ND 19:23 NekoGloop Perfectly proper lisence. 19:23 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Use WTFPL if you want, just make sure your files have license information in them. 19:23 marktraceur NekoGloop: It's better than "HEERS MAI MOD LOL WHAT A LICENSE" 19:24 RealBadAngel marktraceur, coders that are workin for the community pays no shit to the licences. 19:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: up. 19:24 thexyz NekoGloop: you mean, you're going to release new mod? 19:24 marktraceur RealBadAngel: And as a result, the community pays no shit to them. 19:24 NekoGloop thexyz: perhaps 19:24 Jordach in fact, does anyone read the license> 19:24 NekoGloop I do 19:24 RealBadAngel they givin their abilitiels, time, will to help the community 19:25 NakedFury I do but never remember the initials or much about them after a few days 19:25 RealBadAngel and have bill gates and other morons deep in the ass 19:25 NekoGloop And my new lisence means that i can sue you for using my code. 19:25 NakedFury should we have a new rule for mods that they must have a License.txt file included? 19:26 RealBadAngel yes 19:26 RealBadAngel fuck the bill gates 19:26 marktraceur NakedFury: s/License.txt/COPYING/ 19:26 * Jordach inserts hidden UTF-8 code to hide text 19:27 marktraceur NakedFury: Also, the general rule is to include a header at the top of each file to make it clear that the file is under whatever license 19:27 NakedFury I have seen that 19:27 RealBadAngel i also 19:27 RealBadAngel i deny this 19:28 NakedFury mod name: by creator version number and usually after that license type 19:28 mauvebic If theres going to be a rule about licenses on the forum, the sooner its made clear the better, rather than asking people to chose and then saying " i dont like that one" 19:28 marktraceur mauvebic: We aren't talking about restricting the licenses you can use, just how you can use them. 19:28 RealBadAngel its about common sense 19:28 marktraceur mauvebic: There's a clear love of non-free things in this channel, your -NC-ND are safe. 19:28 mauvebic well the licenses themselves arent really up to interpretation :-/ 19:28 NekoGloop if you wanna make my mods split open to the public to rot however they see fit, then I wont let you. 19:28 RealBadAngel if you took somethin say thanks 19:29 RealBadAngel thats all 19:29 RealBadAngel that is our rule 19:29 marktraceur mauvebic: No, but the way you implement them is very open. If you say "NC-ND" but don't explicitly license each file that way, it can be confusing down the line if someone else contributed a file and didn't license it explicitly. 19:29 * marktraceur isn't a lawyer, so it was hard to come up with a good example 19:30 marktraceur RealBadAngel: And leave our software totally outside of any future packaging efforts by real people? Sounds pretty stupid to me. 19:30 RealBadAngel isnt a lawyer but talks as well trained one... 19:30 mauvebic my understanding of NC ND is pretty that its free and must be distrubuted as-is without charge 19:30 NekoGloop lawyers would have fun with minetest 19:30 marktraceur Debian, Fedora, etc., will all demand proper licensing before packaging this stuff. 19:31 RealBadAngel i got one demand 19:31 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I talk as a native English speaker, sorry if you confused that with a law school education 19:31 RealBadAngel all the lawyers, please get the fuck out 19:31 NekoGloop mauvebic: BY-NC-ND means you are credited, they cant make money with it, and they cant steal it 19:31 VanessaE uh oh. server crash 19:31 NekoGloop VanessaE: haha. 19:32 PilzAdam I hope not boats mod 19:32 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Lawyers tend to look at forum rules telling them to GTFO as a perfect reason to not try to settle a case, and simply carry on suing you :) 19:32 RealBadAngel marktraceur, im not native speaker 19:32 mauvebic well im going strictly by what the creative commons site says about their own licenses lol 19:32 thexyz ND is awful 19:32 NekoGloop thexyz: ND is fair 19:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, that damn technic walking flashlight mod. 19:32 marktraceur NekoGloop: To you, maybe, but not to your users :) 19:32 RealBadAngel im just using nowadays latin 19:33 marktraceur Well, then salve, RealBadAngel 19:33 mauvebic well someone over at CC must have thought it was a fair free license 19:33 NekoGloop marktraceur: I say "fuck you" to theives of my code. 19:33 RealBadAngel lol 19:33 marktraceur NekoGloop: Don't release it, then. Don't masquerade as free culture, just compile the Lua and don't pretend you care 19:33 mauvebic its not like the all the GPLs are easy to comply with either 19:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sorry, but it's a damned mod ;-) 19:33 NekoGloop marktraceur: yeah, point me to a way to do that. 19:33 RealBadAngel you just said you dont care 19:33 VanessaE RealBadAngel: query... 19:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: luac 19:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: `man luac` should explain 19:34 thexyz you can decompile it though 19:35 thexyz as it's not "compiler" 19:35 NekoGloop thexyz: then i can sue you 19:35 marktraceur NekoGloop: I think the -s option will remove any useful information used for decompiling 19:35 NekoGloop marktraceur: windows. 19:35 thexyz NekoGloop: you can't if i don't distribute your mod 19:35 marktraceur Oh, right, that would make sense 19:35 mauvebic i dont see why someone should have to obfuscate their code to enforce the licensing, either you respect licensing or you dont 19:36 NekoGloop thexyz: -ND : you cant use the code 19:36 NekoGloop so what good is it? 19:36 marktraceur mauvebic: But why would you even bother sharing the code, if nobody can use it? 19:36 VanessaE RealBadAngel: msg..... 19:36 mauvebic you ignore one license, then everyone can ignore all of them 19:36 thexyz NekoGloop: i can't distribute derivative work 19:36 NekoGloop thexyz: decompiled is deriative: it is not precisely the same as it is distributed. 19:36 marktraceur NekoGloop: https://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/ is your solution, includes luac 19:36 moltenbot marktraceur's link: 19:37 marktraceur moltenbot: That was SO HELPFUL. 19:37 mauvebic marktraceur i shared a mod for a game, 19:37 mauvebic youre confusing format with intention 19:37 NekoGloop marktraceur: ikr 19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: No, I mean 19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: You shared it under the Creative Commons banner 19:37 marktraceur mauvebic: But you clearly have no interest in letting those smelly free culture people anywhere near it 19:38 thexyz i'd better ask marktraceur, can I use modified code (licensed under ND) without distributing it? 19:38 marktraceur mauvebic: It seems dishonest to me (not that I expect that to faze you) 19:38 marktraceur thexyz: 100% yes 19:38 mauvebic marktraceur not at all, id rather just chose who i share it with 19:38 Muadtralk hmmmm i see no issues if its not distributed 19:38 NekoGloop what good is it though? 19:38 thexyz NekoGloop: see? 19:38 NekoGloop you cant use my code, any part of it 19:39 marktraceur mauvebic: I see. Can you relicense it to me under GPLv3, please? 19:39 NekoGloop compiled or no. 19:39 NakedFury if you guys have no intention of sharing dont waste everyones time and post in the forums 19:39 mauvebic license wouldn't change 19:39 NekoGloop NakedFury: I wish to have my mod used. But not stolen. 19:39 marktraceur NekoGloop: Legally, but there are all those awful thieves out there. Better protect yourself preemptively. 19:39 thexyz why do you care? 19:40 NekoGloop thexyz: because it's my code 19:40 thexyz you already said you don't care at all 19:40 NekoGloop well then 19:40 NekoGloop I guess you just dont get my mod 19:40 NekoGloop Good day, sir. 19:40 marktraceur mauvebic: But then you could sue anybody who worked on the project, so....you're basically saying that you've chosen who you want to share it with, and surprise, it's only yourself! 19:41 Muadtralk can I not just replicate your mod from scratch slap some new textures on it give it a different name and bypass you entirely? 19:41 Muadtralk just wondering. 19:41 NekoGloop Muadtralk: nope 19:41 marktraceur Muadtralk: Only if you aren't inspired by his mod. 19:41 marktraceur Muadtralk: So don't look at it 19:41 mauvebic you cant sue anyone without there being damages so i dont get the question 19:41 marktraceur mauvebic: The damages would be infringement of copyright. Where have you been for the past 50 years? 19:42 Muadtralk ive done several mods that ive never released because the day I am about to someone beats me to it :P 19:42 mauvebic besides, no one is going to work on my mods, thats the whole point 19:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: flowing water should push the boats until they reach the apparent speed of the water. 19:42 NekoGloop I say: fuck you, to all of the minetest community 19:43 Muadtralk ah then why do you not go and play in the #minecraft community? 19:43 Muadtralk you have an account yes? 19:44 thexyz NekoGloop: why? 19:44 thexyz mauvebic: that's because they're under -ND 19:44 Muadtralk he bought minecraft and its changed him 19:45 NekoGloop I removed my mods before that. 19:45 NekoGloop Simply because they were not wanted. 19:45 Muadtralk I know you did 19:45 Muadtralk :P 19:45 NekoGloop And now, everyone is taking them. 19:45 thexyz hm 19:45 mauvebic well yeah im perfectly capable of working on my own mods, are people that out of ideas? 19:45 thexyz so that's what's called "attention whoring", right? 19:46 Jordach Muadtralk - i find the alternative to be fajr 19:46 marktraceur mauvebic: You said you wanted to choose who you shared them with, implying that you wanted to, but your later statements made it clear that it wasn't the case :) 19:46 NakedFury we should be a sharing community built around this wonderful free game 19:46 NekoGloop thexyz: nope. 19:46 thexyz why no? 19:46 mauvebic marktraceur im willing to sublicense portions of the code under the same conditions, i didnt chose the license because i thought i'd have teammates lol 19:46 thexyz "nobody loves me, let's suicide" 19:46 thexyz same situation 19:46 NekoGloop NakedFury: perhaps, if they at least had their own little twist on it 19:46 marktraceur mauvebic: If you license the code under the same conditions, still nobody can work on it. 19:47 Muadtralk the reason i have them on my server is cause i dont delete anything and the person who suggested them actually didnt know you deleted them 19:47 mauvebic thats the point 19:47 Muadtralk that is why i use your mods nekogloop 19:47 mauvebic why would i sublicense my code if that person can circumvent the license? 19:47 NekoGloop Muadtralk: because you're too lazy to remove shit code/ 19:47 NekoGloop thexyz: nope. 19:47 marktraceur mauvebic: So nobody will ever be able to work on it unless you decide to license it differently. Do you understand that? 19:47 Muadtralk yep! 19:47 thexyz NekoGloop: well, it seems like that for me 19:47 thexyz don't know about anybody else 19:47 Muadtralk thats why my survival server had indestructable pickaxes 19:47 mauvebic that was the goal 19:48 mauvebic if people cant enjoy playing them then dont download 'em, im pretty laidback about it 19:48 marktraceur Fair enough 19:48 marktraceur mauvebic: What are your mods? 19:49 mauvebic nbu,mbbase,hdb 19:49 mauvebic 2 old ones from the previous pack 19:49 marktraceur mauvebic: None of that made any sense to me 19:49 marktraceur mauvebic: What do they do? 19:49 Muadtralk isnt he the one with multinode and that cool madblocks stuff? 19:50 RealBadAngel marktraceur, mauvebic is respectable coder 19:50 mauvebic hdb: nodes, floors, wallpanels 19:50 RealBadAngel show your achievements 19:50 VanessaE Ok, what mod is it that turns lava+water into one of basalt, obsidian, or pumice (depending on which flows into which)? 19:50 mauvebic nbu: 2k lines (lots of gadgets and nodeboxes) 19:50 marktraceur RealBadAngel: A competent one, maybe, but I can't respect someone who licenses his code with an aim of hurting his users. 19:50 RealBadAngel dont ask him 19:50 Jordach VanessaE - dont keep adding in new mods 19:51 Jordach the server will break :P (100% cpu time) 19:51 RealBadAngel marktraceur, youre best at talkin bout licences 19:51 VanessaE 21286 vanessa 20 0 332m 178m 3704 S 18 4.5 5:40.73 minetestserver 19:51 RealBadAngel nothin more 19:51 VanessaE you sure? :-) 19:51 VanessaE the 18 = 18% CPU, which is about the average when the mapgen isn't causing it to lag. 19:51 OldCoder RealBadAngel, yes I will attempt a 0.4.4 build in the next few days 19:51 marktraceur RealBadAngel: That's why I'm employed as a software engineer at a top-ten website, then. Makes sense. 19:51 RealBadAngel i personally cannot remind any piece of code made by you 19:52 RealBadAngel so shut the fuck up 19:52 RealBadAngel we dont need licences 19:52 marktraceur RealBadAngel: So what you're saying is, I must be totally incompetent because you haven't seen any code I've written? 19:53 Muadtralk your the guy who wanted us to move everything to gitorious yes? 19:53 RealBadAngel yup, youre still talkin bout licences just 19:53 Muadtralk marktraceur? 19:53 RealBadAngel not doin anythin 19:53 RealBadAngel youre just full mouth 19:53 RealBadAngel corporate one 19:53 marktraceur Muadtralk: I was the guy who suggested it, yes. 19:54 NakedFury come one dont start mud slinging 19:54 OldCoder Corporate isn't mud 19:54 OldCoder It is about philosophies 19:54 RealBadAngel well 19:55 RealBadAngel to be honest i know hes skilfull 19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: *We*, as in, this entire channel, are discussing the benefits and problems of licenses. 19:56 RealBadAngel but pisses me off when starts talk bout licensing 19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If someone was asking me about my code, I would be happy to reply. But nobody has. 19:56 OldCoder Pros and cons 19:56 * OldCoder scrolls up 19:56 marktraceur RealBadAngel: There are thousands of other channels, pick one. 19:56 hmmmm i'm not sure how enforcable CC-NC-ND is 19:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, repull; better handling on laggy server added 19:57 VanessaE for which, carts or boats? 19:57 OldCoder Is there any further dispute? Perhaps not 19:57 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i already said what im thinkin bout your code 19:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, boats 19:57 VanessaE ok 19:57 hmmmm i also don't like obsfucation in lua scripts 19:57 RealBadAngel and you know it 19:58 marktraceur OldCoder: mauvebic and I are PMing, but in general it seems quiet on this front now. 19:58 OldCoder All right 19:58 VanessaE PilzAdam: done. 19:58 RealBadAngel you just refused my vision of open source 19:58 hmmmm if it's not a rule already that .luac shouldn't be officially distributed by the minetest project, it should be 19:58 marktraceur hmmmm: Yes, but it's vital to the economy that we protect NekoGloop and mauvebic from malicious hackers who want to resell their code!!!! 19:58 hmmmm not only because it's ethical, but there's a security concern too. 19:59 hmmmm unethical rather 19:59 hmmmm in fact i feel quite strongly about this 19:59 hmmmm i'd like to bar pre-compiled Lua scripts from running in minetest if possible 19:59 marktraceur hmmmm: Yeah, but it won't happen 19:59 marktraceur hmmmm: We specifically relicensed to LGPL to allow it. 20:00 hmmmm ?? huh 20:00 RealBadAngel no, we are WTFPL by choice 20:00 hmmmm you mean the lua interpreter itself? 20:00 RealBadAngel at least most of us 20:00 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi 20:00 marktraceur hmmmm: I was against that, too, but this community doesn't want its users to be protected, it just wants to make cool things and carry on. 20:00 RealBadAngel protected? 20:01 marktraceur hmmmm: No, Minetest is licensed under LGPL. 20:01 RealBadAngel what the fuck youre talkin about? 20:01 RealBadAngel we do not care bout copiers 20:01 RealBadAngel we do grow 20:01 hmmmm indeed, and what of it? i don't see how a LGPL license means you cannot add a technical restriction to not allow precompiled lua scripts 20:01 RealBadAngel each and every day 20:02 marktraceur hmmmm: Well, for one thing, I think freedom 0 is looking a bit infringed if you do that 20:02 hmmmm copiers need to attribute their derivative work to you if they do use CC, I don't really see how it's a problem.. 20:02 RealBadAngel we do learn from others code 20:02 hmmmm wait, LGPL 3.0 or 2.0? 20:02 marktraceur hmmmm: For another, GPL would have restricted a non-free mod from running based on Minetest, as I understood it, but LGPL was a compromise. 20:02 RealBadAngel thats a point of Minetest being so great 20:02 marktraceur I think 2.1 20:03 RealBadAngel youre 22 marktraceur, im almost 40 20:03 OldCoder RealBadAngel, you are a kid :p 20:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Age is not directly proportional to intelligence. 20:04 RealBadAngel youre just ignonorant 20:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, seek consensus 20:04 RealBadAngel to the world of minetest 20:04 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If you have to resort to ad hominem attacks to invalidate my point, then you have no real base for your argument. 20:04 OldCoder What do the two of you have in common? 20:04 OldCoder Where do you disagree? 20:04 OldCoder That is what to look for 20:04 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hello 20:05 RealBadAngel he wants to copyright all 20:05 iqualfragile moin oldcoder 20:05 hmmmm I am not really sure how the LGPL fits in with an application at all 20:05 RealBadAngel i deny copyright anything 20:05 hmmmm it certainly doesn't have the effect that was intended.... 20:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, you just pinged out of your own server?!? 20:05 hmmmm it quite clearly says "Library" and gives a definition of that 20:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: I signed off. From my perspective, I saw a boat driving around on its own and you were standing off at the end of the lake. 20:06 VanessaE 23900 vanessa 20 0 266m 72m 2648 S 11 1.8 1:11.10 minetestserver 20:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Not saying anything about copyright isn't denying copyright. You have to actively say that you release something into the public domain to deny copyright, and you haven't done that anywhere. 20:06 VanessaE 11% and RTT = 0.0.0 means the server is NOT LAGGING. 20:06 iqualfragile boat? 20:06 VanessaE iqualfragile: boat. 20:06 iqualfragile where i get boat? 20:06 hmmmm I have read terms #0 and #1 20:06 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/boats 20:06 moltenbot VanessaE's link: PilzAdam/boats ? GitHub 20:06 OldCoder VanessaE, what was it C55 was saying to you recently about the RTT code? I can play with that shortly 20:07 RealBadAngel im sayin it now in front of all 20:07 VanessaE OldCoder: nothing that should theoretically matter in this case. With a RTT of flat out zero I should not see even the tiniest amount of lag. 20:07 RealBadAngel all my work is public 20:07 OldCoder Hmm? 20:07 RealBadAngel free to use 20:07 OldCoder VanessaE, are you saying I don't need to modify that code? 20:07 hmmmm my understanding of the LGPL is this: you have a GPL-ish library, but it can be used by closed-source software. the library itself's source must be available though 20:07 VanessaE OldCoder: correct - it won't help anyway. 20:08 hmmmm any modifications to the LGPL'd library that is 20:08 OldCoder No? 20:08 OldCoder VanessaE, are you saying 0.4.4 has improved the issue? 20:08 VanessaE OldCoder: no, except that there are config tweaks related to those settings. 20:09 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Sadly I don't think the courts will think to look at the 2012-12-09 logs of #minetest. You need to include the unambiguous statement of "I release this into the public domain", possibly using CC-Zero, in all of your work. 20:09 VanessaE # Congestion control parameters 20:09 VanessaE # time in seconds, rate in ~500B packets 20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2 20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_max_rate = 400 20:09 VanessaE #congestion_control_min_rate = 10 20:09 VanessaE in the server's minetest.conf 20:10 RealBadAngel marktraceur, i have courts deep inside. HOWGH 20:10 marktraceur ? 20:10 marktraceur What? 20:10 RealBadAngel they can kiss my ass 20:10 OldCoder VanessaE, where are these tweaks? 20:10 OldCoder Oh 20:10 OldCoder I see them ty 20:10 VanessaE OldCoder: as above :-) 20:11 marktraceur RealBadAngel: They will, after they take your money and any pants you have on at the time as punitive damages. 20:11 OldCoder VanessaE, should I add those now? Or do they need 0.4.4 ? 20:11 VanessaE OldCoder: they need 0.4.4 I think. 20:11 OldCoder k 20:11 VanessaE 15:09:40: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: tell VanessaE to enter the server 20:11 VanessaE I'm busy :-) 20:11 * marktraceur goes away for a while 20:11 RealBadAngel marktraceur, live a few years more on this world 20:11 marktraceur RealBadAngel: If you want to pretend that you live in a world where courts and laws don't matter, fine. 20:11 RealBadAngel not everythin here is like in the books 20:12 RealBadAngel youre just too young to understand 20:12 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Bite my firm 22-year-old ass, you unrealistic bastard. 20:12 RealBadAngel im beatin you with almost 20 years 20:12 marktraceur Sorry, I missed an adjective 20:13 marktraceur Add in "ageist". 20:13 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I don't think he is showing you disrespect 20:13 RealBadAngel neither do i 20:13 OldCoder And remember... I am nearly as much older than you as you are than him! 20:13 RealBadAngel hes just too young 20:13 artur99 how to plant coffee, habanero, peas, tomato seeds? 20:13 OldCoder This is all fine. Look for where you agree and disagree 20:14 OldCoder artur99 has a question 20:14 OldCoder Perhaps we can focus on that 20:14 RealBadAngel i can agree to that 20:14 RealBadAngel and stop 20:14 marktraceur OldCoder: Actually, I'd like to make another request: Please mute RealBadAngel for his rampant and unapologetic discrimination based on age. Thanks for your consideration. 20:14 RealBadAngel haha again 20:14 OldCoder It is considered but appears to be unnecessary. Policy is to encourage you to /IGNORE him. 20:15 marktraceur So noted. 20:15 OldCoder But it may not be needed 20:15 OldCoder I feel 20:15 artur99 ??? 20:15 OldCoder There may be common ground 20:15 * marktraceur invites others to /ignore RealBadAngel. 20:15 OldCoder artur99, wait 20:15 RealBadAngel sure 20:15 OldCoder marktraceur, RealBadAngel would either of you like to help artur99 ? 20:15 artur99 im waiting... 20:15 marktraceur artur99: IIRC farming+ requires you to till some dirt before planting 20:16 artur99 what is iirc? 20:16 marktraceur artur99: Craft a hoe, put it in your hand, and left-click some dirt. Then right-click the seeds into the ground. 20:16 OldCoder artur99, it means... 20:16 VanessaE If I Recall Correctly. 20:16 OldCoder If I Remember Correctly 20:16 OldCoder Both 20:16 artur99 aha 20:16 OldCoder Fair enough 20:17 artur99 and how long time is taking to grow? 20:17 artur99 *to grow up? 20:18 marktraceur artur99: It's random, so it could be any amount 20:18 marktraceur artur99: The more you plant, the faster it'll happen (on average) :) 20:18 artur99 aha 20:19 artur99 thanks 20:40 thexyz sfan5: you here? 20:40 sfan5 yes 20:40 thexyz have you tried https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/344 ? 20:40 moltenbot thexyz's link: freetype2, .ttf fonts and basic unicode support by xyzz ? Pull Request #344 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 20:40 thexyz it should work fine 20:41 sfan5 but.. windows builds with freetype? 20:41 thexyz what's the question? 20:42 thexyz you can build it for windows with freetype support, but this is somewhat tricky 20:42 sfan5 if the buildbot isn't updated for freetype, how would you cross-compile win builds with freetype 20:43 thexyz i only build it using MSVC 20:43 thexyz just configure it manually 20:45 sfan5 ok 20:45 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/voVFf.png 21:00 PilzAdam gtg; bye 21:01 Jordach im heading off to bed now 21:02 Jordach mauvebic, VanessaE, OldCoder, #minetest, have a good day 21:02 VanessaE night,... 21:02 VanessaE er.. 21:03 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4019 21:03 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Gloop Blocks [gloopblocks] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 21:03 VanessaE BAM! 21:04 OldCoder Bye Jordach 21:09 VanessaE ok, that's two down (gloopblocks, ores). Tool sizes later after I get back from running a couple of errands. 21:15 Muadtralk you need toolsizes? 21:15 Muadtralk i have it 21:15 thexyz http://mods.minetest.ru/toolsizes/ 21:15 moltenbot thexyz's link: Index of /toolsizes/ 21:18 VanessaE bbl 21:18 VanessaE I have it, I just need to write up a good post for it. 21:18 VanessaE bbl for real now :-) 21:18 iqualfragile bbl? 21:19 thexyz iqualfragile: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-09#i_2702908 21:19 moltenbot thexyz's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-09 21:20 iqualfragile cool 21:20 iqualfragile should add a slang-translate-function to my bot 21:30 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi 21:34 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 21:34 OldCoder o/ 21:38 KikaRz VanessaE? Where did you gone? and everyone? 21:41 marktraceur VanessaE: Any suggestions re: Congestion settings? 21:50 * OldCoder will rest for a while 21:58 KikaRz VanessaE ? 21:58 KikaRz PilzAdam, i enhanced more the circuit (water) 22:04 Octupus Hi 22:10 KikaRz Hi octupus 22:10 KikaRz i made a boat race 22:11 Octupus Cool KikaRz 22:12 KikaRz exclusive in VanessaE's server. 22:16 babyface1031 hi Octupus 22:17 Octupus Hi babyface1031 22:18 cisoun Is sdzen here ? 22:24 marktraceur cisoun: He's Muadtralk in here, just left 22:25 KikaRz bye guys 22:25 KikaRz kisses 22:25 KikaRz good night, 22:25 KikaRz tomorrow i have much to do. 22:57 Octupus Is every1 dead? 22:57 MiJyn yes 22:57 MiJyn lol 23:01 babyface1031 it hs been very quite today 23:09 OldCoder Back 23:09 NakedFury welcome back 23:11 cy1 HOLY SHIT 3D AVATARS 23:40 cisoun for french readers : http://linuxfr.org/news/minetest-des-cubes-et-des-hommes 23:40 moltenbot cisoun's link: Minetest : des cubes et des hommes - LinuxFr.org 23:41 * VanessaE is back. 23:46 Octupus Hi VanessaE 23:47 VanessaE hey hey