Time Nick Message 00:18 kaeza hello 00:19 Octupus Hi kaeza 00:20 VanessaE hey kaeza... go on the server and look in my house ;-) 00:20 kaeza not at home :( 00:20 VanessaE aw :( 00:20 kaeza wait 00:20 kaeza has sfan5 latest for win? 00:20 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.4-1d13d10-win32.7z 00:21 VanessaE that's the latest commit hash, so yes :-_) 00:21 kaeza DL'ing 00:21 VanessaE :-) 00:21 kaeza anything new? 00:21 VanessaE depends on how old your last one was 00:21 VanessaE I don't remember :-) 00:22 kaeza I think about four days ago 00:22 kaeza so I think it should do :) 00:22 VanessaE a few things - automatic render distance works a little better, and the screen doesn't turn black anymore during the rendering/extrude code 00:23 VanessaE so you can leave "preload item visuals" un-checked without a major video problem :-) 00:23 kaeza good 00:23 VanessaE hi Taoki. :-) 00:24 Taoki hi :) 00:24 Octupus Hi Taoki 00:24 kaeza hey Taoki 00:24 kaeza V what's your ip? 00:25 VanessaE 24.181.193.82:30000 00:25 kaeza k thanks yet again ;) 00:25 VanessaE np 00:26 kaeza hmmm... is the forum down again? 00:27 VanessaE seems okay to me? 00:27 Octupus Mayba 00:27 kaeza for some reason it doesn't allow me to login 00:27 kaeza I'm using Chrome on Windows 00:27 VanessaE odd, someone else on the forums was having that problem - maybe your work ISP blocks 5.0.0.0/24? 00:28 kaeza dunno 00:28 kaeza It was connecting yesterday 00:28 NakedFury I usually need 2 tries to enter the website 00:28 NakedFury the first it doesnt do anything and the second it enters the site 00:29 Octupus VanessaE: Adam made a boat mod :D 00:29 VanessaE Octupus: I know. I have it installed already. 00:29 VanessaE he tested it on my server :-) 00:30 kaeza Octupus: cool 00:30 VanessaE kaeza: hence the extra-long login time on my server - new media to be downloaded. 00:31 kaeza VanessaE: still 81% 00:31 kaeza almost there 00:32 kaeza fck GPF 00:32 NakedFury it can go faster if you have all the mods the server uses on your games minetest folder 00:32 VanessaE timed out :-) 00:33 kaeza NakedFury: is that new? 00:33 kaeza VanessaE: GPF'd 00:33 NakedFury dont know but when playing on OldCoders server it logins faster 00:33 VanessaE NakedFury: it would go faster too if c55's network code was in better shape ;-) 00:33 kaeza :P 00:33 NakedFury games/minestest_games/mods : containts all mods the server uses 00:33 kaeza sooo true 00:34 VanessaE ~/.minetest/games/vanessa_game <---- narcissistic much? :-) 00:34 NakedFury na 00:34 NakedFury you just like your name 00:34 NakedFury it would be different if the folder icon was a picture of your face 00:34 VanessaE that and I lack a certain amount of creativity in some situations :-) 00:35 NakedFury then I would be worried 00:42 kaeza bitch pleaseç 00:42 VanessaE ? 00:43 kaeza my world is Kaeza and my player is TheAlmightyKaeza 00:43 VanessaE haha 00:43 VanessaE so sign back on already :-) 00:44 kaeza going in 00:45 * VanessaE waits :-) 00:46 * VanessaE waits some more.. for the eventual GPF again :D 00:47 kaeza yup 00:47 kaeza GPF 00:47 kaeza that's why I hate Windows 00:48 kaeza aaaarrrgh 00:48 kaeza fcking GPF again 00:48 VanessaE maybe opengl vs. d3d? 00:48 kaeza hmmm 00:48 kaeza lemme see 00:48 VanessaE or directx whatever 00:52 kaeza now GPF'ed at the menu 00:52 VanessaE kaeza... 00:52 VanessaE # Video back-end. 00:52 VanessaE # Possible values: null, software, burningsvideo, direct3d8, direct3d9, opengl 00:52 VanessaE #video_driver = opengl 00:53 kaeza this comp GPFs when entering game on default driver, and at menu on D3D 00:53 kaeza I hate when not playing in my comp 00:55 kaeza I might as well convince my brother in law to install some linux distro on this one 00:55 VanessaE heh 00:56 kaeza VanessaE: have you seen? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 00:56 moltenbot kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 00:56 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, seen it. 00:57 kaeza hmmm... I think I will finally add animated textures for the next version 00:58 VanessaE cool 00:58 marktraceur kaeza: Re: What you've included, http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/132/9/e/stop_the_vaio_lence_by_lttam-d3g70oh.png 00:58 marktraceur (the worst pun EVER) 00:59 VanessaE ugh.. 00:59 kaeza I was thinking of making a looped animation, playing minetest within minetest :) 00:59 kaeza marktraceur: right 00:59 kaeza :) 01:00 kaeza oh, and hello 01:00 VanessaE kaeza: well the surprise was that I added your computers mod to the server :-) 01:00 VanessaE and put a few of them in my new house in their respective places 01:00 kaeza !oh you ruined the surprise :( 01:01 VanessaE you took too long to fix yer game :-) 01:01 kaeza but I'm really glad to see someone likes what i do 01:01 kaeza and actually uses it :) 01:02 TANKERx64 I deleted everything in mapgen.lua except for registers and the map generates really really fast 01:02 kaeza I've been thinking of releasing a functional computer later 01:02 VanessaE kaeza: idea... 01:03 kaeza VanessaE: yes? 01:03 VanessaE make one of the computers run some minigame like jin_xi's tetris one 01:03 kaeza I was thinking about it too 01:03 kaeza It would be cooler if c55 would add a "Canvas" item for the gui 01:04 kaeza that way you could technically be able to create minetest within minetest 01:04 kaeza lol 01:05 kaeza hmmm.... 01:05 VanessaE like that minecraft-in-minecraft minigame 01:05 VanessaE except we can do better than that thing. 01:06 kaeza no I mean a programmable canvas, with simple put/getpixel api (the rest of the primitives could be implemented in lua) 01:06 VanessaE ahh 01:06 kaeza if you know about Java applets then maybe you get what I'm talking about 01:07 VanessaE actually I interpreted that as "graphic primitives" e.g. blitter, solids, etc. operations 01:07 kaeza yes 01:07 VanessaE I don't know anything about java except that I don't like it :-) 01:08 kaeza with simple put/getpixel you can program blits/transparency/etc in lua 01:08 kaeza lines/circles/whatever 01:08 VanessaE right 01:08 kaeza but maybe I'm just dreaming :) 01:15 kaeza k guys time to go. My planet needs me :) 01:15 VanessaE bye :-/ 01:19 jordan4ibanez wieners wieners wieners 01:22 jordan4ibanez I wish that terrain generation was completely in c++ or at least it was faster in lua 01:22 jordan4ibanez OH I WISHHHHHHHHHHHHH 01:22 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: hmmmm is working on it. 01:22 jordan4ibanez OH THANK YOU HMMMMM I WOULD GREATLY OBLIQUIGUATE 01:23 hmmmm lol. 01:23 VanessaE last thing I saw was that he'd gotten it to a working state but... 01:23 VanessaE ...HAH 01:23 VanessaE ok he can finish that sentence for me :-P 01:23 hmmmm yeah it is in a working state, it needs a lot of cleanup 01:24 hmmmm and there are some odd bugs like for some reason biome boundaries are flat on one side 01:24 jordan4ibanez Is it faster hmmmm? 01:24 hmmmm well what do you think!? 01:24 jordan4ibanez I DONT KNOW 01:24 hmmmm it's twice as slow as the old one. 01:24 jordan4ibanez Yayyyy 01:24 VanessaE "... but it isn't production-ready and may still have major bugs" was to be my finish :-) 01:24 hmmmm mm yes 01:24 jordan4ibanez can i try it pwease 01:24 hmmmm the mapgen and associated changes are humungous 01:25 jordan4ibanez Sounds good 01:25 hmmmm i don't predict this being production-ready for a while 01:25 hmmmm it's like 2KLoC total 01:25 hmmmm 2kloc of changes 01:25 VanessaE in other words, a metric assload. :-) 01:25 jordan4ibanez github repo? 01:26 hmmmm you really just want to try it huh 01:26 hmmmm i'll add in some more biome definitions 01:26 hmmmm so it's fun 01:26 jordan4ibanez Well..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... 01:26 jordan4ibanez ......................................................................................................................................................................................... Yea 01:26 hmmmm i only have like 5 01:26 hmmmm right now 01:26 VanessaE "only" hah 01:26 jordan4ibanez Can i please try it? :( 01:26 jordan4ibanez Is it in c++ or lua? 01:27 hmmmm it's lua 01:27 VanessaE better than the two and a half we have now :-) 01:27 VanessaE wb kaeza 01:27 kaeza back again 01:27 jordan4ibanez Oh, well can i try it then? :D 01:27 kaeza :P 01:27 jordan4ibanez Hi kaeza 01:27 kaeza hey jordan 01:27 hmmmm lol 01:27 hmmmm you just really want to try it 01:27 hmmmm so here's how you'll define the biomes: http://pastebin.com/qUWiCiR5 01:27 moltenbot hmmmm's link: [Lua] -- -- Register the frequency at which biome groups occur -- minetest.register - Pastebin.com 01:27 jordan4ibanez Ya 01:27 kaeza have you updated your quarry? 01:27 jordan4ibanez Not yet 01:28 hmmmm if it turns out to not be as interesting, i am going to change it so that you can modify spread values, octaves, etc. 01:28 jordan4ibanez hmmmm, is this mapgen completely in lua? or are there c++ changes too? 01:28 hmmmm those are parameters that influence the size of the noice lattice 01:28 hmmmm no, that's just the part in lua where you define custom biomes 01:28 hmmmm everything else is C++ 01:29 jordan4ibanez mdasmdasmdasmdm I can't wait for it :X 01:29 hmmmm i'm sure you can't! 01:29 hmmmm it might show up in 4.5 01:29 kaeza 4.5? 01:30 hmmmm 0.4.5. 01:30 jordan4ibanez :O 01:30 VanessaE hmmmm: in all seriousness, I look forward to seeing your new mapgen code put into practice. With all the work you've done and the hairpulling involved, I'm sure it will be a couple orders of magnitude better than the default. 01:30 hmmmm why does everybody get on me about that 01:30 jordan4ibanez Oh 01:30 VanessaE kaeza: ARGH!j2oihf2379frt421rt78942`1xyr794366~&($ 01:30 hmmmm yeah! 01:30 hmmmm It is pretty awesome 01:30 kaeza VanessaE: lol 01:30 hmmmm i also want to simplify the way caves are generated 01:30 VanessaE ZERO POINT FOUR POINT [X] 01:30 kaeza I know how you feel when someone does that 01:31 VanessaE oh fuck me, I misread my screen again :-) 01:31 jordan4ibanez mmmmm gingerbread house 01:32 VanessaE hmmmm: didn't realize it was all that complicated, though some of the caves can be pretty intricate 01:32 kaeza it could be awesome if someone added a standard way to find the current biome 01:32 kaeza a-la ambience mod 01:32 hmmmm wellll 01:32 hmmmm it's not complicated, really, it's just really messy and all over the place 01:32 VanessaE gotchya. 01:32 hmmmm i think it's nice too, honestly, i just wonder if i could do even better 01:33 hmmmm i mean i think the results are nice 01:33 jordan4ibanez is it fast? 01:33 hmmmm yes 01:33 hmmmm jeez 01:33 jordan4ibanez YAY 01:33 jordan4ibanez Can it make toast? 01:33 hmmmm nope. 01:34 jordan4ibanez I always wanted to make a toast mod 01:34 jordan4ibanez place bread above lava and it turns into toast 01:34 VanessaE ohh brother.. 01:34 jordan4ibanez too long and it turns into acid 01:36 kaeza jordan4ibanez: some more advanced food mod? 01:36 kaeza would be cool 01:36 jordan4ibanez Yea 01:36 hmmmm aha! 01:36 kaeza have you played Harvest Moon? 01:36 hmmmm well my liquid transformation works 01:37 jordan4ibanez Nope 01:37 jordan4ibanez Have you played reel fishing 2? 01:37 kaeza Well, it has about 200 different recipes 01:37 kaeza might as well copy it :) 01:37 jordan4ibanez hmmmm if you make a source have it's alternate flow be the same source, you can create finite liquid 01:38 kaeza including cakes, french fries, toasts :) 01:38 jordan4ibanez sounds delicious lol 01:38 jordan4ibanez minetest has a memory leak of 9mb 01:38 kaeza mem leak? 01:39 kaeza yeah 01:39 jordan4ibanez MHM 01:39 kaeza after playing for a long time without quitting it suddenly dumps core (GPFs in Windows terms) 01:40 jordan4ibanez It creates problems for me, i kind if hesitate to play minetest because of it 01:40 hmmmm 9mb? 01:40 hmmmm that's hardly a memory leak lol 01:40 jordan4ibanez Yea 01:41 jordan4ibanez Well all i did was start up the game 01:41 mrtux it's a bit higher for me\ 01:41 mrtux around ~400mb or so 01:41 mrtux could be all the mods i have installed 01:41 hmmmm it's not, it's all the loaded blocks 01:41 hmmmm once the blocks unload it ought to reduce 01:41 mrtux ah i see 01:41 hmmmm tital wave! http://i.imgur.com/XcnUN.png 01:41 kaeza even a 1 byte mem leak is bad 01:41 VanessaE 336 MB resident for my minetestserver instance. 01:42 jordan4ibanez oh god :O 01:42 hmmmm tidal* 01:42 mrtux hmmmm, ha! 01:42 Muadtralk nice textures 01:42 VanessaE hmmmm: this is from the new mapgen? 01:42 mrtux if that is a mod 01:42 hmmmm yea 01:42 jordan4ibanez I think i need to download more ram 01:42 VanessaE hmmmm: cool. 01:42 hmmmm I have to smooth out the biome transitions 01:42 mrtux It's sad that I have 512MB of ram... 01:42 hmmmm especially from ocean to other things 01:42 VanessaE hmmmm: wait! 01:42 kaeza hmmmm: coom 01:43 hmmmm otherwise you get what you see there 01:43 kaeza cool* 01:43 jordan4ibanez hmmmm why doesn't the biome get the surrounding biome's height? 01:43 VanessaE hmmmm: please for the love of Mike, don't do that dithered thing that we have now. 01:43 VanessaE hmmmm: instead make some new blocks to make the transition actually be smooth 01:43 hmmmm haha, vanessa, nope 01:43 hmmmm you'll see, it'll be nice 01:43 hmmmm jordan, that's because each biome has its own scale and offset values 01:43 VanessaE I *hate* the dithered desert <-> grass transitions. they are .... not right. 01:43 hmmmm it's an attempt though 01:44 Muadtralk they should have gravel between them 01:44 kaeza hey Muadtralk 01:44 Muadtralk that way its going from dry desert to rocky terrain then dirt 01:44 jordan4ibanez Sometimes i think there will never be an os that can do it all 01:44 * VanessaE sings... "ho ho fucking, ho what a crock of shit - we all work for Santa Claus, we've had enough, we quit..." 01:45 VanessaE ok maybe that's too raunchy even for this channel :-) 01:45 kaeza lol 01:45 Muadtralk there wont be an os that does it all 01:45 hmmmm "does it all"? 01:45 Muadtralk if that was made we would have to make new tihngs that only sometihng else can do 01:45 Muadtralk things* 01:46 jordan4ibanez Does not have bugs, can be installed in solid state firmware, boots up almost instantly 01:46 Muadtralk try dos! 01:46 * mrtux keyboard is breaking 01:46 hmmmm why do you care about boot time? 01:46 kaeza or Windows 1.01 01:46 hmmmm do you reboot 50 times a day? 01:46 mrtux 8 year old keyboard lulz 01:46 hmmmm i can understand if we're talking Solaris-boot-slow 01:46 hmmmm or AIX 01:47 hmmmm AIX.. christ.... it takes literally 20 minutes for my RS/6000 to boot 01:47 kaeza what is a "fast" boot? 01:47 hmmmm like 30 seconds? 01:47 kaeza my Win 7 Ultimate boots up in about 10 secs 01:47 jordan4ibanez Like windows 8 can boot in 4 seconds, but seriously, it's windows 8 that's the only thing it has 01:47 jordan4ibanez then linux has stability 01:47 jordan4ibanez windows 7 has gaming 01:47 hmmmm windows 8 cheats 01:48 jordan4ibanez gentoo and arch have customizability 01:48 hmmmm that's hibernation, not real booting 01:48 jordan4ibanez Mac os has style 01:48 Muadtralk actually hmmmm I have had several days where I have to reboot almost 50 times a day 01:48 hmmmm that sucks 01:48 Muadtralk and it gets very, very tiresome if you have a 2 minute boot time for windows 01:49 kaeza try removingt unneeded things fro startup 01:49 kaeza I currentyly only have the antivirus control panel 01:50 jordan4ibanez Then windows gets slower over time, and so does linux and mac, and blah, unless you have an ssd 01:50 VanessaE I have a SSD and it *still* gets slow on occasion 01:50 VanessaE (but it's a far cry from the pain that is booting/operating from spinning rust) 01:51 kaeza the problem is that most oses now add a bunch of things that are unneeded 01:51 jordan4ibanez And even when you have an ssd you can still defrag it on windows, which makes no sense 01:51 kaeza seriously, Ubuntu is 2.6GB installed IIRC 01:51 VanessaE yup, too many layers of crap between the OS and the user. Whatever happened to the concept of loading what you need, on demand? 01:51 kaeza but it has no `flex' 01:52 Muadtralk hehe i dont have much of anything running on windows 01:52 VanessaE kaeza: upwards of 9GB with everything but the kitchen sink, installed. 01:52 jordan4ibanez The fastest file system i've ever seen is xfs, which smokes ntfs, but you can only use it on linux and bsd 01:52 Muadtralk only 9 gigs? 01:52 kaeza yup 01:52 kaeza but still no `flex' :( 01:52 jordan4ibanez lol 01:52 Muadtralk my my thats the drain not the kitchen sink 01:52 * jordan4ibanez bends ubuntu until it snaps 01:52 jordan4ibanez oops 01:53 VanessaE Muadtralk: yeah - for the system itself. Now, counting my data library and home directory, it's closer to half a terabyte. 01:53 jordan4ibanez For the mesecons challenge i'm going to make a lever 01:53 Muadtralk win7 if you havent noticed installs with nothing on it to almost 20 gigs 01:53 Muadtralk somethings wrong with that 01:53 kaeza jordan4ibanez: go for something useful like a data bus or something like that 01:53 VanessaE Muadtralk: jeez :-/ 01:53 jordan4ibanez Yea, it's because of the language packs 01:54 jordan4ibanez It's all in one, which sucks ass 01:54 Muadtralk no even without it 01:54 kaeza Muadtralk: yeah 01:54 Muadtralk i tried deleting as much as i could without destroying its usability 01:54 Muadtralk it didnt do much 01:54 Muadtralk all that encryption must be the culprit 01:54 VanessaE the only use I have for multiple languages is just so that programs will properly render foreign text - I don't give a shit about translations or even being able to READ it, I just don't wanna see little boxes with UTF-8 codes therein. 01:55 kaeza that's because a stupid program like notepad occupies 1MB 01:55 jordan4ibanez My windows 7 expires in 87 days, so idk, when steam comes onto linux fully i'm off windows 01:55 kaeza and they don't have debugging symbols :) 01:55 Muadtralk and notepad is directly intertwined with the entire system 01:55 VanessaE kaeza: sad isn't it? Remember when a full word processing suite used to be ~50kB? 01:55 Muadtralk which if you manage to delete it 01:55 Muadtralk it will bite you in the ass 01:55 kaeza VanessaE: good old times 01:56 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: there are betas of Steam4linux out now. 01:56 kaeza I remember "The Last Word" for the Speccy 01:56 Muadtralk yes fior those lucky few who got into the beta 01:56 Muadtralk for* 01:56 jordan4ibanez I like that you can beat the shit out of linux and it'll still work 01:56 Muadtralk until you misconfigure a monitor and you cant see anything 01:56 VanessaE kaeza: geoWrite... and you had a full GUI OS under it...and the whole OS + toolchain fit on a 330kB floppy disk. 01:57 VanessaE how far have we fallen? :( 01:57 Muadtralk very very far 01:57 jordan4ibanez No, i've done that 01:57 kaeza VanessaE: hmm... never heard of it... gotta research this 01:57 jordan4ibanez I installed the wrong nvidia driver and i still could fix it, it wrecked the boot loader and i still managed to fix it lol 01:57 jordan4ibanez i did that with windows 7 2 weeks ago and had to reinstall 01:58 VanessaE kaeza: it's part of an OS called GEOS (which ran on 8-bit computers of the 80's) 01:58 kaeza but yes, we've fallen lower than rock bottom 01:58 Muadtralk we must have dug past the void 01:58 VanessaE Muadtralk: Xfre86 modelines ftw! 01:58 VanessaE :-) 01:58 VanessaE Xfree86* 01:58 kaeza A few years ago I seen a notepad-like program that required DX9 01:58 VanessaE DX for a fucking text editor!? 01:58 kaeza Muadtralk: lol 01:59 Muadtralk what? 01:59 VanessaE *facepalm* 01:59 Muadtralk directx? 01:59 Muadtralk thats insane 01:59 jordan4ibanez lol 01:59 VanessaE directx. 01:59 kaeza yep 01:59 Muadtralk what did it do that required it? 01:59 jordan4ibanez i love when people pull out the, linux doesn't support directx card, it's not supposed to 01:59 kaeza "special effects" 01:59 Muadtralk did it play space invaders with 8th dimensional physics? 01:59 kaeza IIRC 01:59 VanessaE that's beyond insane. What are they trying to do, make it render the text into some kind of perverted 3d environment? 02:00 kaeza something like that 02:00 jordan4ibanez MIRC 02:00 VanessaE *groan* 02:00 Muadtralk ew 02:00 Muadtralk i tried that irc client once 02:01 kaeza what? 02:01 kaeza IIRC = If I Recall/Remember Correctly 02:01 jordan4ibanez MIRC aka packfuck 02:01 Muadtralk i meant MIRC 02:01 jordan4ibanez buggiest non free client 02:01 kaeza I use either webchat, XChat, or pidgin :) 02:01 Muadtralk i remember one time I pirated it for a friend 02:02 jordan4ibanez Quassel is truly the best 02:02 Muadtralk he was very very quick to delete it 02:02 Muadtralk pidgin is nice actually 02:02 Muadtralk doesnt give many bugs 02:02 jordan4ibanez NO QUASSEL IS BETTUR 02:02 OldCoder It is like editors 02:02 OldCoder To each their own 02:02 Muadtralk ill remember that the next time i want to use KDE to run it 02:02 kaeza the good thing with pidgin is that you can also login to your Yahoo chat accounts, etc 02:03 jordan4ibanez Nice 02:03 Muadtralk and twitter! 02:03 kaeza though I rarely use Y! now 02:03 jordan4ibanez Oh yea i remember pidgin 02:03 kaeza and it has a centralized interface where you can see your friends, etc 02:04 Muadtralk pidgin isnt very kind to my cpu 02:04 jordan4ibanez Yea 02:04 Muadtralk somehow if ive been using it all day 02:04 jordan4ibanez Pidgin wasn't very fast though, at least when i was on a p4 02:04 kaeza Muadtralk: that's strange 02:04 kaeza using Windows? 02:04 Muadtralk it manages to make several copies of its own process 02:04 Muadtralk and slow me down 02:04 Muadtralk in linux 02:04 jordan4ibanez Lolwut 02:04 Muadtralk damn windows 02:04 kaeza hmm 02:05 Muadtralk I wont wait 2 minutes for it to load on my computer 02:05 kaeza I only see a single instance of pidgin in the process list 02:05 Muadtralk its a rare bug 02:05 Muadtralk but its crushed me several times 02:05 kaeza maybe you need to update? 02:05 kaeza o hai OldCoder! 02:06 Muadtralk you talking to the person who cant use stable distros because he ends up breaking them to get the latest version of a solitaire application 02:06 Muadtralk your* 02:06 OldCoder kaeza, Hi! 02:06 OldCoder kaeza, I just added one of your mods! 02:06 OldCoder It will appear in my worlds tonight 02:06 jordan4ibanez I can't finish this gingerbread hoooose 02:06 Muadtralk hose? 02:06 kaeza OldCoder: which one? (I have only two) 02:06 OldCoder house 02:06 OldCoder kaeza, computers IIRC 02:06 jordan4ibanez no, hose 02:07 OldCoder Oh 02:07 kaeza oh cool! 02:07 jordan4ibanez no jk, house 02:07 OldCoder computers are useful 02:07 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, very well 02:07 OldCoder Every home needs a kaeza komputer! 02:07 OldCoder :p 02:07 OldCoder VanessaE world has them 02:07 Muadtralk yes they are quite useful for incasing people in nodes while they are idle 02:07 OldCoder So into mine they go 02:07 OldCoder Hmm? 02:07 OldCoder <--- misses the reference 02:07 Muadtralk my favorite pastime 02:07 OldCoder Ah 02:07 kaeza I'll try intergrating (read: stealing) the code from the arcade machine 02:08 Muadtralk in game if someone goes idle 02:08 Muadtralk i almost always incase them in useless decorative nodes 02:08 Muadtralk like gravel 02:09 kaeza oh and the Pony SlayStation is good for those lone nights :) 02:09 Muadtralk ? 02:09 Muadtralk oh 02:10 VanessaE OldCoder: please redownload: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip --and-- http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip 02:10 OldCoder VanessaE, ty and proceeding now 02:10 jordan4ibanez OH THAT WAS BAD 02:10 kaeza Muadtralk: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3830 02:10 moltenbot kaeza's link: [MOD] Computers (Decorative) [0.1.2] [computer] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 02:12 Muadtralk why must the station slay ponies? 02:12 Muadtralk what did they do to you? 02:13 jordan4ibanez I want to make an advanced drawtype for carts, but just, TOO LAZY 02:13 jordan4ibanez Is there a utility to create nodeboxes? 02:13 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: pilzadam says one can also use 3d models (ala the player) for entities. 02:13 kaeza I hate my little pony 02:13 VanessaE so fuck nodeboxes. use blender :-) 02:14 VanessaE kaeza: modern MLP just doesn't hold a candle to what I grew up with 02:14 kaeza VanessaE: MT has support for models?? 02:14 OldCoder VanessaE, conversion to LevelDB in progress 02:14 VanessaE kaeza: rudimentary, yes. 02:14 VanessaE kaeza: the player model is a .x file. 02:14 VanessaE and it can be configured from Lua I guess 02:14 kaeza I didn't notice that 02:15 kaeza I was trying to make a nodebox golf cart 02:15 jordan4ibanez How? 02:15 kaeza entity 02:15 jordan4ibanez No i meant where is the nodebox of the player? 02:15 VanessaE the player isn't a nodebox. 02:15 kaeza but my node boxing suxx 02:15 VanessaE the player is a proper 3d model. 02:16 jordan4ibanez How to set it to an entity then? 02:16 Muadtralk with a fancy .blend file 02:16 VanessaE no clue how to do it, I'm only barely familiar with it all. 02:16 VanessaE not enough to understand the file formats yet, let alone the syntax :-) 02:16 kaeza hmm 02:18 jordan4ibanez time to create an npc 02:19 kaeza jordan4ibanez: +1000 02:19 kaeza The towntest mod is pretty slow 02:19 kaeza and not very "realistic" 02:20 kaeza and the workers mod, well, forget about it 02:22 OldCoder VanessaE, world updated and check it out! 02:22 OldCoder carts will crash until I update to 0.4.4 02:23 kaeza ok time to get really going 02:23 VanessaE there we go, third time's the charm 02:23 VanessaE kept mistying my passwd. 02:24 kaeza bye guys 02:25 VanessaE lol 02:25 VanessaE right-click a cart ---> *** Server shutting down 02:25 VanessaE haha 02:25 VanessaE perhaps you should delete the carts until you can update to 0.4.4 :-) 02:25 VanessaE boats too 02:25 VanessaE player_textures also 02:38 OldCoder VanessaE, updates are expected this week 02:39 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/ZCIpA.png started 02:40 VanessaE OldCoder: will the update be difficult? Can you use that LevelDB patch in 0.4.4? 02:40 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: what IS it? 02:40 jordan4ibanez the beginning of a player npc 02:41 OldCoder VanessaE, all set 02:42 OldCoder VanessaE, I mostly need to test things; all should be well 02:42 VanessaE oh ok 02:42 OldCoder VanessaE, thexyz and RBA were both put off, I think, by lack of acceptance upstream. But the three of us have talked and thexyz has shown me what to do. 02:43 VanessaE OldCoder: you should keep pressing c55 to get that patch merged upstream. If it works as well as it seems to for you, we need to switch to it. 02:43 OldCoder VanessaE, C55 seemed to agree to doing this later on 02:43 OldCoder He is not in a rush. But we have a way to move forward for now. 02:44 OldCoder Running 0.4.4 in multiple places with LevelDB will help 02:44 VanessaE press on him anyway. 02:44 OldCoder I will make the sources I use available 02:44 OldCoder Heh 02:44 OldCoder You overestimate my influence 02:44 OldCoder But all right 02:44 VanessaE he's stubborn - everyone in the community knows it, including him. :-) 02:44 OldCoder Then... one step at a time 02:44 OldCoder I will try to start 0.4.4 tomorrow 02:44 VanessaE and when he sees this in the logs, hopefully he'll know I mean that in the nicest way possible ;-) 02:44 OldCoder There is no work to the builds 02:45 OldCoder It is about making sure everything does not get broken 02:45 VanessaE right 02:45 OldCoder Continuity 02:45 OldCoder Continuity is key to the survival and growth of the project and community 02:45 VanessaE yes 02:45 OldCoder We can't break all the worlds each time 02:45 NakedFury Oldcoder will you provide a windows client like you did in the past? 02:45 OldCoder NakedFury, absolutely! 02:46 OldCoder That is one of the things to test 02:46 NakedFury ok 02:46 OldCoder It really should be fine 02:46 OldCoder The only problem I know of so far... 02:47 OldCoder Is that Windows EXEs won't support local LevelDB. So if people want their worlds from my servers I will need to export back to SQLite3. 02:47 OldCoder But they will run fine... 02:47 OldCoder with the LevelDB worlds *on* my servers 02:48 OldCoder This also means that people who wish to run their own servers are strongly encouraged to use Linux and not Windows 02:49 NakedFury wont bother me, I dont plan on running any server 02:50 VanessaE OldCoder: why was that again? 02:50 VanessaE OldCoder: what was keeping LevelDB out of windows builds? 02:51 OldCoder VanessaE, Boost 02:52 OldCoder I built Boost for Windows. From scratch. But cmake simply will not find it! There are a few other problems as well. 02:52 OldCoder Believe me I tried. Spent a day on this. 02:52 VanessaE Maybe it's something ridiculously simple? 02:52 OldCoder Probably 02:53 OldCoder So I tried all the ridiculously simple things I could think of 02:53 OldCoder I hate... 02:53 VanessaE I mean, look for the smallest, stupidest, most obvious thing you can think of that, if done wrong, breaks the install. 02:53 OldCoder build systems that try to make things simple 02:53 OldCoder VanessaE, MT is cmake based 02:53 OldCoder And no matter what I did cmake would not accept Boost 02:54 OldCoder If you know cmake experts 02:54 jordan4ibanez now i have the basic model loaded http://i.imgur.com/RuQka.png 02:54 OldCoder Tell them I'd like to build MT but cmake hates Boost 02:57 VanessaE heh 02:57 VanessaE that leaves me out :-) 02:57 VanessaE I hate cmake :-) 02:58 VanessaE I used to have nothing but headaches with packages that use it years ago. 03:15 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ0gFMUj8DY 03:15 moltenbot harrison's link: Seizure Gazelle - YouTube 03:21 jordan4ibanez I DID IT!! 03:21 jordan4ibanez :D 03:25 jordan4ibanez It's very very basic 03:25 jordan4ibanez but it supports all the animations the normal player does 03:25 VanessaE video? 03:26 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/2w6O2yU1Ayg 03:26 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Basic Minetest NPC - YouTube 03:27 VanessaE not bad. Next, give it a better skin of course, but more importantly, make sure it always faces the direction it's moving toward :-) 03:27 NakedFury I must celebrate. I found the guillotine command of gimp 03:27 Muadtralk now... make it dance along to thriller 03:28 Muadtralk and look like michael jackson 03:28 VanessaE hah 03:30 kizeren @NakedFury how is the dwarf mine coming on the server? 03:30 khonkhortisan robots should have special skins so you can tell them apart 03:31 NakedFury slowly but great 03:31 NakedFury need to keep carving the center 03:31 NakedFury gonna leave the hard work for last 03:32 kizeren Might stop by and drop some teleports, hate walking all the way back up :) 03:32 NakedFury ok 03:32 kizeren <----Shaun by the way. 03:35 NakedFury well this Gimp tool will speed up my texture project 03:38 khonkhortisan mc spy detected 03:38 MiJyn hi 03:38 VanessaE heh 03:38 NakedFury this made 256 windows of gimp dammit 03:38 NakedFury only downside 03:38 VanessaE NakedFury: put it in single window mode 03:38 khonkhortisan use the new version, you'll get 256 tabs ^ 03:38 VanessaE then you only have hundreds of tabs instead :D 03:39 khonkhortisan the window close button only closes the tab 03:40 NakedFury close all caused the program to freeze 03:40 NakedFury gimp has no check for updates? 03:42 VanessaE dunno, in linux that sorta stuff is handled by package managers. 03:43 NakedFury nice video jordan 03:43 NakedFury now we need an exact player model selection box to accompany any 3d model done 03:48 VanessaE +1 03:53 jordan4ibanez here is the source code 03:53 jordan4ibanez http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qCNUWxYi 03:53 jordan4ibanez right now the player model goes to the right 03:57 jordan4ibanez I don't understand how to make it not go to the right xD 03:58 VanessaE I don't even understand how to make it go, period :-) 03:58 khonkhortisan robocode has a check for updates, it's faster than my os 04:01 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55914#p55914 04:01 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 04:03 jordan4ibanez I hope to make a mining npc 04:04 khonkhortisan it's been done before with a node, it'd be better with a character 04:07 jordan4ibanez it's really REALLY easy 04:08 VanessaE hi 04:12 NakedFury can oyu use old gimp plugins on new version? 04:14 NakedFury ignore. found the problem. it was a script not a plugin 04:17 jordan4ibanez khonkhortisan: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2278CMTe 04:17 jordan4ibanez basic mining npc 04:24 jordan4ibanez oh wieners 04:25 VanessaE related: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4015 04:25 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [MOD] Tunnel Boring Machine (Beta) [TBM] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 04:26 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: I think the NPCs should be aimed more at providing a good selection of hostile and non-hostile mobs 04:26 VanessaE rather than being workers as such 04:26 jordan4ibanez Yea, this was just a test 04:26 jordan4ibanez make some models and then they can be made hostile 04:26 VanessaE right 04:27 VanessaE who knows, your code might make it into git master if it's generic enough :-) 04:27 jordan4ibanez Lol 04:54 jordan4ibanez hmmmm you should have support for grass and like dead grass in your api 04:54 VanessaE ? 04:56 VanessaE you mean in my plantlife mod? (??) 04:56 hmmmm dead grass? 04:56 hmmmm erm 04:57 hmmmm not sure what you mean 04:57 VanessaE dry shrubs? 04:57 MiJyn jordan4ibanez, I know this is a late reply, but I saw your NPC mod... awesome!!! 04:57 jordan4ibanez hmmmm you know how i made grass spawn like it does in minecraft? 04:57 jordan4ibanez like that is what i mean 04:57 jordan4ibanez and thank you mijyn 04:58 hmmmm i don't actually 04:58 hmmmm sorry 04:58 jordan4ibanez You know how dead shrubs spawn in deserts? 04:58 hmmmm erm, i guess.. 04:58 VanessaE fwiw, I do that in plantlife.... 04:58 jordan4ibanez like that, only more densely 04:59 VanessaE jungle grass -> dry shrubs after a while. 04:59 hmmmm sounds like something you'd want to add in register_on_generated() 04:59 VanessaE (but only in the desert, as configured by default) 04:59 jordan4ibanez well that's what made generating grass slow 05:00 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/API.txt 05:00 moltenbot VanessaE's link: plantlife/API.txt at master ? VanessaE/plantlife ? GitHub 05:00 VanessaE maybe what you need is in that mod. Look at the API doc. 05:03 jordan4ibanez I don't want to grow them, i want them to spawn on chunk generation, but right now there is no fast way to do that 05:05 VanessaE ah 05:05 VanessaE well maybe I should extend plantlife to do that too :-) 05:06 VanessaE seems like everyone and their dog prefers on-map-generate... 05:08 VanessaE pfft. the API doesn't even explain how register_on_generated() works. 05:10 VanessaE ew. sample code shows you have to iterate through X/Y/Z yourself!? 05:11 VanessaE Jeez it's no wonder hooking into map generation is slow. 05:11 VanessaE fuck that. 05:22 VanessaE hmmmm: having just looked briefly at mapgen.lua... um... would "oy gevalt" convey my sentiments appropriately? :-) 05:24 hmmmm perhaps.... 05:24 hmmmm there's a lot i think that can be done to make it better 05:24 hmmmm we really need to look into that JITter again 05:25 VanessaE I mean shit.. 05:25 hmmmm this is going to become even more important when trees get put in (guess where they're going...) 05:25 VanessaE this is iterating through the entire volume of each mapblock just to generate random ores or look for grass 05:25 VanessaE this is just horrible 05:26 hmmmm that's really the way most things are done in the mapgen 05:26 hmmmm well, were 05:26 VanessaE well sure, it makes sense generally....but in an interpreted language? 05:26 hmmmm from lighting, to cave generating, to checking which nodes are liquid and need to be transformed, etc. 05:26 hmmmm yeah, bad 05:26 VanessaE that's 16^3 iterations of each loop for each ore if I read this right 05:27 VanessaE what's that, 4k? 05:27 hmmmm well 05:27 VanessaE multiplied by however many mapblocks have to be generated for the current view... eek 05:27 hmmmm try (16 * 5)^3 05:27 VanessaE *5? 05:27 hmmmm yep 05:27 hmmmm 5x5x5 block chunks are generated each run 05:28 VanessaE oh yes 05:28 VanessaE I forgot about that 05:28 hmmmm that's going to be configurable btw 05:28 VanessaE so 512,000 nodes. 05:28 VanessaE /iterations 05:28 hmmmm default_chunk_size in the config file 05:28 hmmmm and then it'll store that number in the map metadata 05:28 VanessaE sounds good 05:28 hmmmm so that way if you change that number it won't screw up existing maps 05:29 hmmmm but yeah, half million iterations is bad enough, but lua... 05:29 hmmmm it's incredible though 05:29 hmmmm i've already come so far and the mapgen is pretty fast 05:29 VanessaE and with one...two.... four pseudorandom calls per iteration as well 05:29 hmmmm because i do a lot less crap for one, and for two, my noise calls are way faster 05:30 hmmmm yeah, a lot of "optimization" is taken for granted 05:30 hmmmm i know from my own experience that compilers do NOT always generate optimal code 05:30 VanessaE not to disparage c55's coding skills or anything, but this is just BAD. 05:30 hmmmm especially if you're doing something wasteful to boot 05:30 hmmmm it doesn't have to do with coding skills, i think, it's just in bad taste and this is a rather naive method 05:31 VanessaE so, what IS the story with compiled Lua? Depending on who you ask, either it's interpreted in realtime, or it's always compiled into p-code...which is it that MT is doing? 05:31 hmmmm like one obvious optimization you can do there is to not generate ore if it's above ground 05:31 hmmmm right now, MT is just using the regular lua, which gets compiled into p-code before being executed 05:31 VanessaE ok 05:32 VanessaE and LuaJIT compiles it into something more akin to an executable then? 05:32 hmmmm yes, native code 05:32 VanessaE ok 05:32 VanessaE I wonder if the same speed gains we used to see back in the old days apply here. 05:32 hmmmm i've been _told_ that we've tried it before. 05:32 hmmmm and that it didn't work out too great 05:32 hmmmm but that was obviously before all this stuff started going out into lua 05:33 VanessaE compiling BASIC into p-code usually gave you about a 5x speed boost, whereas compiling straight to assembly language tended to double that again, at a large cost of memory 05:33 hmmmm lua is such a huge part of minetest now 05:33 VanessaE yeah, thexyz tried it, but found no benefit, but I can't say if he did it right. 05:33 VanessaE (luajit that is) 05:33 hmmmm well 05:33 hmmmm you know what they said about other things 05:33 hmmmm (shaders, binary file format) 05:33 hmmmm they all said "oh it's 3x slower" or whatever and it turns out they just did it wrong 05:34 VanessaE mmhmm 05:34 hmmmm I wish i could clone myself so i can work on different things at the same time 05:34 VanessaE "You're holding it wrong." 05:34 VanessaE ;) 05:34 hmmmm there is an incredible amount of stuff that i'd like to fix or rework 05:34 hmmmm the shaders, i'm not too interested in, but the current lighting system could be optimized a whole lot 05:35 hmmmm the file format, we don't really need to use a database and we'd be subject to the limitations of that database too 05:35 hmmmm all that overhead 05:35 VanessaE well there is one caveat to that... 05:35 hmmmm huh 05:35 VanessaE indexing a database is a lot easier than a flat file. 05:36 VanessaE that said, 05:36 hmmmm well 05:36 VanessaE I've found so many places (outside of minetest I mean) where anything other than a flat file is just overkill 05:36 hmmmm my idea is to have block metadata elsewhere 05:36 VanessaE you're thinking almost like the old sectors format then? 05:36 hmmmm noo 05:36 hmmmm noo that's horrible 05:36 hmmmm one file 05:36 VanessaE heh ok 05:37 hmmmm the first idea i'd have for our own map file format is this: 05:37 hmmmm you have your header section, block address mapping section, metadata section 05:37 hmmmm and then the block data 05:38 VanessaE all in the same file? 05:38 hmmmm the block addressing section would be like a huge LUT that'll translate the block position in the world into the offset in the file 05:38 hmmmm and vice versa 05:38 hmmmm yea 05:39 VanessaE mmmh... 05:39 hmmmm have you ever read up on ext2? 05:39 hmmmm maybe something like the inode structure how it has that single, double, then triple-indexed section for which blocks it's using 05:39 VanessaE this is where my knowledge of filesystems breaks down a bit. I use ext4 myself, but when it comes to fs internals I don't know anything more recent than old stuff from my c64 05:40 hmmmm mm 05:40 hmmmm okay in a nutshell: there are a static number of preallocated inodes, each for a file 05:40 khonkhortisan Anyone know how to sell stuff on eBay? 05:40 VanessaE but for relevance: I'm accustomed to accessing flat files in a purely linear fashion (versus random access in databases of the era, as today), that's why I'm confused. 05:40 VanessaE but go on. 05:41 VanessaE khonkhortisan: been a while. 05:41 hmmmm in this 128 byte structure you have a bunch of fields, and then the last three you have the block sections 05:41 hmmmm like one of the fields is an immediate listing of the LBA for the file 05:41 hmmmm and if it's bigger than one block 05:41 khonkhortisan I can't switch from the Online Auction tab to the Fixed Price tab. I can't tell if it's the page misbehaving or if I need to satisfy a requirement. 05:41 hmmmm then the next field will contain the LBA of a chunk containing nothing but LBAs to blocks being used by the file 05:41 VanessaE heh. sounds exactly like the old GEOS VLIR format. 05:42 hmmmm and the next field goes deeper, it's a block containing addresses of blocks that contain addresses to parts of the file 05:42 hmmmm basically 05:42 VanessaE except of course that only had two levels of indirection but yeah, I see what you mean 05:42 hmmmm well that sort of design element i like, i'd use that if i needed to store a variable amount of records 05:43 hmmmm very efficient imo 05:44 VanessaE well, I guess if implemented properly it would be pretty efficient then 05:44 VanessaE (and it's a given that you'll do it right) 05:44 VanessaE binary data or human-readable? 05:45 hmmmm binary data obviously 05:45 hmmmm we can't afford being inefficient 05:45 VanessaE I assumed so 05:45 hmmmm but again 05:45 hmmmm this is a really really long term project that i'm only considering doing 05:45 hmmmm and it has much lower priority than other things 05:45 VanessaE maybe this can just be implemented as a third backend in lieu of SQLite or LevelDB 05:46 VanessaE (assuming the latter ever makes it in that is) 05:47 hmmmm of course it will 05:47 hmmmm 0.4.5 if anything 05:47 VanessaE this by you is "long term"? :-) 05:47 hmmmm 0.4.5 is pretty short term 05:47 VanessaE as I thought :-) 05:48 VanessaE at any rate, it'll get done when it gets done. 05:48 hmmmm you know, when you start working on a project, you stop seeing everything as so far off, and instead you think "oh god, please make the release take as long as possible, this buggy PoS cannot possibly be made part of a release" 05:48 VanessaE lol 05:49 hmmmm fear of eating your own dog food i guess 05:49 hmmmm but then again, i stopped playing minetest 05:49 VanessaE you'll get back to it some time, after you've run out of stuff to code ;) 05:50 VanessaE that also raises an important point though: 05:51 VanessaE you code because you enjoy either the process or the results thereof, enough so that actually *playing* the game doesn't have as much appeal. 05:51 VanessaE that's just as valid and important an activity as anything else really, where the game's concerned. 05:52 hmmmm for me, i think it's a cross between not being able to play because you see all the flaws and you feel like you need to fix that 05:52 hmmmm and then just not finding it fun anymore 05:52 hmmmm it's fun when it's somebody elses' responsibility 05:53 VanessaE I expect the same holds true for most any project for most coders. The one I am most known for was about 16 years ago, and while it gained me a certain level of notoriety within the community it was aimed at, I didn't actually USE that project that much. 05:54 hmmmm true that 05:54 hmmmm unless, of course, you started the project because you needed a tool to accomplish some goal 05:54 hmmmm which is the case in a lot of my projects 05:54 hmmmm i still use some programs of mine that i wrote when i was 16 in wine 05:54 VanessaE right 05:55 hmmmm because back then i never even thought about portability 05:55 VanessaE I have dozens of little scripts that are all the result of exactly that - just write a tool that does the job so I don't have to do things the hard way 05:55 hmmmm i did all sorts of nice things like *(short)(foo + strlen(foo) - 2) = ',' to append a comma onto the end of a string for example :X 05:56 VanessaE (I haven't done any compiled/assembled code in a very long time, aside from the recent patches to the engine you helped me with) 05:56 hmmmm and then i had quite a time when i needed that program to run on SPARC 05:56 hmmmm you should definitely do more 05:56 hmmmm it gets easier as you become more familiar with the source 05:57 VanessaE I will. Just gotta familiarize myself with the engine 05:57 VanessaE yeah, it'll get easier as I get more into it. 05:58 VanessaE in the meantime, I'm getting signals from various places (brain, body, husband) saying it's time to sleep. Perhaps I should heed said signals. :-) 05:58 hmmmm hmmmm indeed.... 1am 05:58 hmmmm i have school tomorrow 05:58 VanessaE I have a sizable road trip ahead of me tomorrow... 05:59 VanessaE (not as much time spent as school, but for me it's 10x as nerve wracking :-) ) 05:59 VanessaE so I 05:59 hmmmm last day of classes for me - actually two of the four are already finished 05:59 VanessaE cool - time to celebrate a little then :-) 05:59 hmmmm still need to do some projects, then finals should be easy, and then i'm freeeeeeeee to minetest 24/7 06:00 VanessaE so anyway, I'm off to bed. Night :-) 06:00 hmmmm night 06:04 ShiftyCake hello 06:05 ShiftyCake Hello 06:06 ShiftyCake Hello 06:07 khonkhortisan hello 06:08 Calinou hi 06:09 ShiftyCake i'm getting kubuntu do you know how i can save on my usb instead of burning? 06:09 ShiftyCake I have downloaded it and it installed expressburn 06:11 Calinou ShiftyCake: unetbootin 06:11 Calinou (might not work for distros not based on ubuntu) 06:12 Calinou if it's not based on ubuntu then use dd, which is a command line tool 06:12 Calinou (data destructor :D be very careful when using it) 06:13 Calinou http://unetbootin.sf.net 06:13 moltenbot Calinou's link: UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads 06:13 ShiftyCake The general procedure to install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive is: Acquire the correct Ubuntu installation files ('the ISO') Put Ubuntu onto your USB flash drive Configure your computer to boot from USB flash drive and boot from it Try Ubuntu or install it to your hard drive. 06:15 ShiftyCake https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick 06:15 moltenbot ShiftyCake's link: Installation/FromUSBStick - Community Ubuntu Documentation 06:15 ShiftyCake Hello 06:31 devlab Hi, why does gravel have creepy sounds? 06:34 khonkhortisan didn't notice 06:35 devlab What does it mean when there is a lot of gravel in one spot? 06:35 NakedFury nothing 06:35 khonkhortisan that's just how it generates 06:35 NakedFury just the extremely weird way gravel generates 06:36 khonkhortisan it does mean something if you have a shallow pond in sand; look for clay. 06:36 khonkhortisan I've dug down through rock and found a vein of gravel and sand. Blame the dinosaurs. 06:38 devlab almost 2 stacks? 06:38 khonkhortisan more 06:39 devlab how much more? 06:40 khonkhortisan I didn't clear the whole thing, it's still on gameboom 06:41 khonkhortisan Can two people be in the same cart? 06:42 devlab i just got over 100 tin 06:44 devlab i have almost 4 stacks of coal, what the? 06:50 devlab is there a mod that adds clocks? 06:50 NakedFury minecraft style clocks? 06:51 NakedFury no either way 06:51 khonkhortisan hehe I could make a game out of static art screens, rail, and pistons to connect rails to change screens. 06:51 ShiftyCake yes there is 06:51 ShiftyCake there is clock 06:51 ShiftyCake http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=807 06:51 moltenbot ShiftyCake's link: [Mod] Clock [clock] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 06:52 NakedFury wow 06:52 NakedFury must have missed that one 06:52 NakedFury but cant blame me it was in january 13 06:54 cy1 anybody around? 06:55 ShiftyCake yep 06:55 cy1 Aqua: come check out the thingy I built at my place! 06:55 cy1 it's like my old spirally stair, but I did it right this time 06:55 Aqua_ what server? 06:55 cy1 verge.info.tm port 6989 06:56 Calinou gpg --encrypt spirally_stair 06:56 Calinou there, you can now see it 06:56 Aqua ok 06:56 cy1 gpg was friggin hard to jury rig into minetest 06:57 khonkhortisan good privacy good? 06:57 cy1 khonkhortisan: heh. GNU Privacy Guard 06:57 khonkhortisan as opposed to pretty good privacy 07:04 cy1 Yeah. 07:04 cy1 It's a play on acronyms. 07:04 cy1 GPG is PGP 07:17 Aqua_ Anyone? 07:17 khonkhortisan you gained your _ again 07:17 markveidemanis Hi 07:17 markveidemanis HI 07:17 Aqua_ someone already used Aqua 07:18 cy1 Aqua_: what? 07:18 ShiftyCake Can anyone help me? 07:18 cy1 I don't know. It depends on your question. 07:18 khonkhortisan Is it wise to help a shifty cake? 07:19 ShiftyCake I need help with lua 07:19 cy1 So do I. 07:19 cy1 That is however, not a qustion 07:19 Calinou haha 07:19 Calinou ShiftyCake: just ask 07:19 khonkhortisan markveidemanis, Hey, I'm in! 07:20 khonkhortisan oh. wrong server. 07:20 markveidemanis shall i keep moreblocks 07:20 ShiftyCake I completely screwed up my protectorplus mod none of it is working now :( 07:20 cy1 ok step 1) remove protect blocks 07:21 cy1 step 2) set up regular backups 07:21 cy1 off-site if possible 07:21 khonkhortisan github counts as off-site 07:21 cy1 step 3) take away interact from griefers 07:21 cy1 problem slolved. 07:21 cy1 khonkhortisan: you can put map.sqlite on github? o_O 07:22 khonkhortisan maybe in its uncompressed form 07:22 khonkhortisan oh. /me missed the name change 07:22 markveidemanis khonkhortisan:86.142.237.3 07:24 ShiftyCake might as well completely rewrite 07:25 markveidemanis too long to load media? 07:25 khonkhortisan ♬ I'm falling ♩ from a ♪ sliver in the sky ♫ 07:25 markveidemanis let me remove moreblocks... 07:25 ShiftyCake whats that? 07:25 khonkhortisan markv's server looks like a modified skyblock 07:25 ShiftyCake khonkkhortisan: whats that? 07:26 khonkhortisan skyblock? 07:26 khonkhortisan or the music notes? 07:27 cy1 markveidemanis: port? 07:28 markveidemanis 30000 07:28 cy1 gotit 07:28 ShiftyCake nvrmind 07:29 cy1 I figured out how to reset parts of the map using sqlite3 <3 07:34 cy1 khonkhortisan: lag? 07:34 cy1 oh, his server died 07:34 khonkhortisan cy1, corrupted double-linked list 07:35 cy1 khonkhortisan: oh noes glibc up in your house 07:36 markveidemanis_ hi, sorry- crashed 07:36 khonkhortisan hello markveidemanis, markveidemanis_ 07:36 khonkhortisan server up? 07:37 markveidemanis_ ye 07:37 markveidemanis_ p 07:37 markveidemanis_ i gtg 07:38 markveidemanis_ vye 07:38 markveidemanis_ bye 07:40 cy1 yeah there's a server admin worth remembering... 08:06 ShiftyCake Hello\ 08:29 markveidemanis hi 08:30 markveidemanis can someone plz send me the lyrics to "minecraft style"? 08:31 markveidemanis "HI? 08:50 Matsetes Hi 08:50 Matsetes The new version crashes every times... 08:58 * OldCoder will return in a few hours 09:14 cy1 VanessaE: hey I was trying your textures, and set texture_path = /... in my minetest.conf file, but when I connect to a server it still uses the old textures. 09:20 cy1 oh, it's only the server that can set textures... 09:22 cy1 or, wait no that doesn't work either... 09:38 cy1 No, only the CLIENT has texture_path! 09:42 cy1 nehh I can get the Vanessa menu, but then it just crashes w/ bad_alloc 09:45 cy1 haha yeah those huge textures take 1.2 gig and then my computer is like NOPE 09:51 cy1 yayyy it workss 09:52 cy1 OH GOD IT'S HIDEOUS 09:53 Matsetes Someone knows the farming mod? 09:57 cy1 nice water texture, actually 09:57 cy1 Matsetes: hoe dirt for seeds and plant on it. Must be near water. 09:59 Matsetes Yes, cy1, but wasn'it a way to craft the pumpkins into something eatable 09:59 Matsetes ? 10:44 brobostigon good morning everyone, 11:00 thexyz should we move this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1598 back to "modding general" as it currently doesn't fit guidelines? 11:00 moltenbot thexyz's link: [Modpack] MM2 [moved] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 11:38 Taoki Yay, MineTest is 0.4.4 on the openSUSE repositories too :) 11:42 markveidemanis hello 11:51 markveidemanis HI 12:04 devlab Huh? i found some clay 12:05 devlab Taoki: What repository? 12:05 Taoki devlab: The official game repository for openSUSE 12:08 devlab the games OBS repo? 12:10 Taoki OBS? 12:12 Taoki brb 13:04 devlab hey Celeron 13:09 zloy hello guys 13:09 zloy I want to compile the latest release of the minetest, but I receive the following problem: http://paste2.org/p/2585393 13:09 moltenbot zloy's link: Paste2 - Viewing Paste 2585393 13:10 zloy could somebody help me with it? 13:11 zloy the problem is in openal library, am I right? 13:12 thexyz yes 13:23 zloy ok, it compiled successfully, but from the game I received the following: http://paste2.org/p/2585429 13:23 moltenbot zloy's link: Paste2 - Viewing Paste 2585429 13:34 markveidemanis HI 13:34 markveidemanis thexyz 13:34 thexyz hello 13:35 markveidemanis how do i make my ip stay the same if it changes? i dont really know how to explain 13:36 thexyz you can't 13:36 thexyz though you can use some service like no-ip.org 13:36 thexyz *no-ip.com 13:37 thexyz any dynamic DNS provider should be fine 13:37 markveidemanis what is it called?, something like dynamic ip? 13:37 markveidemanis ok 13:42 markveidemanis anyone got some of the new mods? 13:49 devlab haha, i cleaned a cave of its resources, and it was a big cave 13:50 markveidemanis what new things does the building blocks add compared to the older release 13:53 markveidemanis HELLO? 14:01 devlab what's the point of Desert Stone? 14:17 STHGOM allo mates! 14:18 STHGOM Hello! 14:18 devlab sup? 14:19 STHGOM Im going to animate somthing in blender? 14:20 STHGOM Im going to talk with you? 14:20 STHGOM :D 14:22 KikaRz Ohai! 14:22 KikaRz VanessaE, you there? 14:23 KikaRz PilzAdam, your boats got more handling? 14:23 KikaRz thats because in my track, i cant make a 90º rotation (in a curve of my track) 14:23 KikaRz OldCoder is off? Whyy? 14:23 KikaRz he is never offline 14:36 STHGOM if anyone wants me say STHGOM 14:37 KikaRz STHGOM is gay. 14:37 KikaRz xd 14:39 KikaRz IT's the Final Countdown! 14:40 KikaRz (tadunino.... taduninana... taduninoooo... taduninono 14:40 KikaRz :P 14:41 Final ... 14:41 Final Seriously? 14:41 KikaRz no 14:41 KikaRz the world finishes at 2012/12/21 14:41 KikaRz so... 14:41 KikaRz we make a final countdown 14:41 KikaRz '-' 14:41 Final To be all meta and cool beans; I've lost count of how many times I've lost count of people making that pun. 14:42 STHGOM :D 14:42 NekoGloop XD 14:42 KikaRz XD 14:42 KikaRz I'm too good for things. 14:42 KikaRz like... 14:42 KikaRz building, planning and discovering 14:42 KikaRz (demolishing is just for my enemies) 14:48 KikaRz so NekoGloop, how are you? 14:50 KikaRz OMG 14:50 KikaRz I WAS ALMOST WRITTING HERE MY PASS 14:50 KikaRz MINETEST WASNT FOCUSED 15:40 KikaRz how copper rails work? 15:40 KikaRz hi sfan5 15:40 KikaRz sfan5, now i dont need your windows builds.- 15:40 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:41 KikaRz hi PilzAdam 15:41 KikaRz How Copper rails work? 15:41 sfan5 KikaRz: why? 15:41 KikaRz PilzAdam, im building now a mix of train 15:41 KikaRz sfan5, im now linux user 15:41 sfan5 oh ,nice! 15:41 KikaRz :) 15:42 KikaRz PilzAdam, can you tell me how they work? 15:42 NekoGloop now you use the second worst OS? 15:42 PilzAdam KikaRz, this question doesnt make sense 15:43 thexyz NekoGloop: what is the first one? 15:44 NekoGloop thexyz: Mac 15:44 thexyz and the third..? 15:44 NekoGloop Windows 15:44 NekoGloop Windows > Linux > Mac 15:44 thexyz sure 15:45 thexyz except that linux is kernel 15:45 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you know that Microsoft copied code from Apple? 15:45 NekoGloop PilzAdam: yeah, the only good part of their code 15:45 KikaRz NekoGloop 15:45 KikaRz fuck you.ç 15:45 KikaRz your windows its the worst 15:46 thexyz celeron55: time to change antispam questions once again 15:46 KikaRz ok 15:46 KikaRz i give a idea. 15:46 KikaRz PilzAdam is... ? 15:46 KikaRz a) a minetest user 15:46 KikaRz b ) a pro programmer 15:46 KikaRz c ) both 15:46 NekoGloop Mushroom guy 15:46 KikaRz XD 15:46 KikaRz no 15:46 KikaRz and d) mushroom guy 15:46 KikaRz xd 15:47 KikaRz celeron55 is... 15:47 KikaRz a) the minetest creator 15:47 KikaRz b) the pizza boy 15:47 KikaRz c) Jeb's copy 15:47 NekoGloop b) a horrible programmer 15:47 PilzAdam b) would be nice 15:47 KikaRz d) horrible programmer 15:47 KikaRz now bye 15:47 KikaRz hasta 45 min 15:48 Penguin hi 15:49 STHGOM hi 15:50 VanessaE hi all, just stopping by for a bit. 15:51 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 15:52 Penguin who made the industrial mod 15:53 VanessaE I will be leaving from here for a couple of days, the test server will be offline until I return (probability of thunderstorms). 15:54 VanessaE Penguin: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=692 15:54 moltenbot VanessaE's link: [Mod] Industrial Mod [0.0.7] [industrial] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 16:02 Zeg9_ Hello 16:02 VanessaE hi zeg9 16:03 STHGOM hi Zeg9 16:12 kaeza hello 16:31 Jordach hey all 16:33 Zeg9 Hello 16:34 Jordach in about two hours, please do not HIGHLIGHT ME 16:36 * Jordach hates iOS6, Y U REMOVE YOUTUBE! 16:38 FreeFull Solution: never, ever use apple 16:38 Jordach FreeFull - better than the easy fall apart androids 16:38 Jordach (i dont count the SGS1/2/3) 16:39 Calinou * Jordach hates iOS6, Y U REMOVE YOUTUBE! 16:39 Calinou also, fun maps app! 16:39 Jordach yeah 16:39 Calinou makes underwater cars possible 16:39 Calinou also, farms in airports 16:39 Jordach they made a new shiny section called: Map Apps 16:39 * Jordach does not see GMAPS there 16:39 Calinou maps.google.com says so 16:40 Calinou it's more limited than the old maps app though 16:40 Jordach (in laymans terms, i held back the update until GMAPs and YoutTube came out) 16:40 Jordach 5.1.1 FTW 16:41 Jordach they say a loading bar stops working when you look at it 16:43 * Jordach can hear the rain coming down the chimney 16:47 thexyz any iOS device is useless without jailbreak 16:47 Jordach bullshit 16:47 Jordach "it does what i want it to" 16:47 * Jordach hates bricking devices 16:47 Jordach and voiding warranty 16:47 thexyz sure 16:47 thexyz you can't jailbreak your own device 16:48 Jordach thexyz - i would, but i dont want to be forced to fix all the shit it causes 16:49 Jordach Linux User: "If it works, fuck with it until it breaks, fix it until said thing works, repeat." 16:52 markveidemanis HELP 16:52 markveidemanis i need to make a nodebox 16:52 markveidemanis and failing 16:53 Penguin hi 16:53 markveidemanis i need to register a node box with the wood texture 16:53 markveidemanis hi 16:53 markveidemanis modder?, help 16:53 babyface1031 hi Penguin 16:53 VanessaE bbl, time to head out. Back in two days (or slightly less). 16:53 Penguin baby is this the one http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 16:53 moltenbot Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 16:54 PilzAdam markveidemanis, have you read this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2333 ? 16:54 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Basic node_box model examples (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums 16:56 babyface1031 OldCoder: hi can you look into the industry mod i have it on my single player and it is really neat http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 16:56 moltenbot babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 17:05 _MiJyn_ bbl 17:19 MiJyn hi 17:21 babyface1031 hi 17:21 markveidemanis who will help me with my mod???? 17:21 KikaRz VanessaE... 17:21 KikaRz markveidemanis, i dont. 17:21 KikaRz hi babyface1031 17:21 KikaRz its vanessaE servero n? 17:21 KikaRz *on 17:21 KikaRz PilzAdam 17:21 KikaRz do you have a server? 17:21 markveidemanis PilzAdam... 17:21 markveidemanis yep 17:22 KikaRz i can make some races of boat and cart 17:22 * PilzAdam doesnt have a server 17:22 KikaRz ok... 17:22 KikaRz :/ 17:22 KikaRz but 17:22 KikaRz VanessaE's server is on? 17:22 markveidemanis idk 17:27 KikaRz ... 17:27 KikaRz stupid 17:27 KikaRz PilzAdam, is VanessaE's server is on? 17:28 PilzAdam why are you asking me? 17:37 Jordach anyone want this texture pack converted for personal use? http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/64x132-dragon-dance-cartoon-rpg/ 17:37 moltenbot Jordach's link: [64x][1.4.2] Dragon Dance, Cartoon RPG- Now supports Tekkit! Minecraft Texture Pack 17:37 Calinou no :P 17:39 Jordach Calinou - looks really nice 17:39 * Jordach almost had a heart attack when jordach used it for the first time 17:43 KikaRz Because you're the owner of Boats mod (PilzAdam) 17:43 KikaRz Tekkit? 17:43 KikaRz what tekkit? 17:43 KikaRz Calinou 17:43 KikaRz Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! 17:43 KikaRz Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! 17:43 KikaRz Jordach: THIS ISN'T MINECRAFT. YOU'RE BANNED! 17:44 KikaRz :@ 17:44 KikaRz but anyways 17:44 Minetest-tan GIT: dannydark (DannyDark) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix glass step sound 4763fa635a 2012-12-10T09:43:12-08:00 17:44 KikaRz i want that texture 17:44 KikaRz cool... a git hub bot. 17:44 KikaRz first time that i see it 17:45 KikaRz Who is DannyDark? 17:45 KikaRz Yea! 17:45 Jordach john_minetest - i meant diy 17:45 KikaRz And it's for Minecraft. 17:45 PilzAdam KikaRz, i merged a commit of him 17:45 KikaRz who is dannydark , PilzAdam? 17:45 Jordach i did convert feathersong for InfinityProject just for him 17:45 Jordach possibly 17:46 Jordach thats if minetest gets any faster XD 17:46 PilzAdam KikaRz, you may want to ask yourself who KikaRz is 17:46 KikaRz Its me 17:46 KikaRz Francizca Rodriguéz. 17:46 KikaRz (not spanish, but i born in spain. i live in portugal) 17:47 Calinou ty4name 17:47 KikaRz lol 17:47 KikaRz why do you want it? 17:47 KikaRz its ficticional 17:47 KikaRz XD 17:47 KikaRz well, my real name is... (i cant share with you.) 17:47 KikaRz BUT my gender is female 17:48 PilzAdam sure 17:48 KikaRz xd 17:48 KikaRz Calinou wanted my name 17:48 KikaRz so... 17:50 KikaRz 2012 Retrospective. 17:50 KikaRz http://br.noticias.yahoo.com/retrospectiva-2012-top-10-v%C3%ADdeos-da-web-005917042.html 17:50 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Retrospectiva 2012 - Top 10 videos da web - Yahoo! Noticias 17:51 KikaRz TOp 10 of more viewed videos 17:51 KikaRz of web 17:51 KikaRz 1 - Gangnam Style 17:52 Calinou true story 17:56 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 17:59 * Jordach hates the slow USB.2.0 connection for Syncing 17:59 Calinou who cares about USB 3 18:00 Calinou like wifi n, I didn't change my USB drives/external HDDs/routers when usb 3 came 18:00 Calinou and my desktop, from early 2012 does not support USB 3 18:00 * Jordach enters rage by clicking a link which opens IE 18:00 Jordach 6 18:01 thexyz he probably have never heard about usb 1 18:02 Jordach thexyz - ask windows, thats what it thinks the ipad2 uses 18:03 Calinou since when the ipad has USB 18:03 * Calinou starts rumor: the ipad 5 will have USB port! 18:03 thexyz Jordach: do you have ipad2? 18:04 thexyz what do you use it for? 18:04 Jordach yes 18:04 Jordach personal use 18:04 Calinou tablets are overrated 18:05 Calinou my netbook beats an ipad 4 at glxgears, iOS can't run glxgears... 18:05 Jordach Calinou - Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 18:05 Jordach or the Google Nexus 7 / 10 18:05 thexyz at least they can run xscreensaver, http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/06/i-have-ported-xscreensaver-to-the-iphone/ 18:06 thexyz s/Tab/Tab 2/ 18:06 Jordach oh gosh this headset is uncomfy 18:06 telek Calinou: USB3's benefit is in finally being able to utilize multiple usb devices through switches at up to their full bandwidth without slower devices making the whole chain slow. 18:06 Calinou google made a 10" tablet? didn't know ;) 18:06 Calinou telek: yeah, that too 18:07 thexyz Calinou: what about your netbook batterry's life time? 18:08 Calinou that is the downside, but who ACTUALLY stays away from an electricity source when using a tablet? 18:08 Jordach five mins playing minetest? 18:08 thexyz Calinou: i do 18:08 Calinou no, about 2.5 hours when playing MT 18:08 Calinou enough by far, and when plugged in it goes from 0% to 100% in like 1 hour 18:09 Calinou also, I have a physical keyboard 8D makes it much easier to play MT :P 18:09 thexyz when travelling, at least 18:09 bulletrulz hi 18:10 marktraceur thexyz: You clearly need to buy a laptop, so you can charge your tablet. :) 18:10 Calinou charge it with the power of itself:! 18:10 Calinou -: 18:11 Jordach marktraceur - most tabs dont charge from usb 18:11 Jordach they need 12v+ 18:11 Jordach not 4.5v 18:11 thexyz s/most tabs/ipad/ 18:12 Jordach that also works 18:12 Jordach also, soon water will not be endless and then it has to be re pumped up again for more energy 18:12 Jordach (or use a transport tube + pump = energy 18:12 Jordach ) 18:13 KikaRz Gangnam Style... 18:13 KikaRz almost 1 bilion 18:13 Jordach we know 18:14 marktraceur Jordach: Doesn't USB3 or whatever the hell it was provide more power yet? 18:14 KikaRz Opa Gaybie bieber. 18:14 KikaRz XD 18:14 KikaRz im making my christmas tree 18:14 Jordach Jordach: Doesn't USB3 or whatever the hell it was provide more power yet? yes, but it could, but my pc is USB2 18:14 KikaRz i use USB3 18:14 KikaRz to use my wireless keyboard and mouse 18:14 KikaRz and my pen drive 18:14 marktraceur Jordach: Well, the statement stands, then. If thexyz gets a laptop with USB3, then he can use his tablet for long periods of time (e.g. plane) 18:15 KikaRz lol 18:15 KikaRz who got a server with boat, carts, mesecons, more blocks, more ores, etc? 18:15 KikaRz guys 18:15 Jordach in theory yes 18:15 KikaRz how i make to my computer dont get bugged? 18:15 KikaRz like 18:16 telek There's a boat mod, or you just mean the raft mod? 18:16 KikaRz that black thing 18:16 telek And what's the status on mining carts now anyways? 18:16 KikaRz no, its boat mod 18:16 KikaRz ask to PilzAdam 18:16 KikaRz my computer gets black 18:16 KikaRz with battery something 18:16 KikaRz battery lock 18:16 KikaRz or something 18:16 KikaRz like a glitch 18:16 KikaRz but my mouse works 18:17 KikaRz i guess its from the screen ... (proteção de ecrã) 18:17 Calinou i thought your computer was a desktop... 18:17 KikaRz yep it is 18:17 Calinou oh 18:17 KikaRz not laptop 18:17 KikaRz its desktop 18:17 KikaRz i guess its from screen protection 18:17 KikaRz or something 18:17 KikaRz that thing that when gets some time... goes black and passes some images 18:17 KikaRz etc 18:18 Jordach i just found bullshit in the itunes store! 18:18 Jordach DRM FREE 18:18 KikaRz what bullshit? 18:18 PilzAdam not that hard 18:18 KikaRz PilzAdam, can you check if the VanessaE's server is on? 18:18 * Jordach realises that .bmp images are large and slow to upload 18:18 PilzAdam IP? 18:18 Calinou apple, no DRM, seems legit, I wonder how did they even do that... 18:18 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi! 18:19 Calinou Jordach: why use bmp when you can use png? 18:19 PilzAdam !up 24.181.193.82 18:19 moltenbot Minetest server 24.181.193.82:30000 DOWN 18:19 Jordach PilzAdam http://i.imgur.com/fKYIT.png# 18:19 PilzAdam KikaRz, seems to be down 18:19 KikaRz :/ 18:19 KikaRz i cant continue my boat race 18:19 KikaRz :'( 18:19 Calinou no serials for me! D: 18:19 KikaRz can you host a server for me? to continue it? 18:19 PilzAdam Jordach, the whole Apple thing is bullshit so not hard to find bullshit in bullshit 18:19 Calinou Jordach: btw, google play does the same thing for free if you want to do it... no need to pay 18:19 Jordach can you find a cowpat in bullshit 18:19 Calinou ;P 18:20 KikaRz changing linux theme 18:20 PilzAdam Linux is a Kernel 18:20 PilzAdam how to change a Kernel's theme? 18:20 KikaRz no 18:20 Calinou poor unity only has 4 themes (with 2 being high contrast) 18:20 KikaRz the Ubuntu theme 18:20 Calinou xfce ftw ;D 18:20 KikaRz *Kubuntu 18:20 KikaRz *xubuntu!!! 18:20 KikaRz ... 18:20 Calinou PilzAdam: make it play a different music when booting 18:20 Calinou i know 18:21 thexyz PilzAdam: you know, those penguins who show up during boot 18:21 KikaRz so pretty... 18:21 KikaRz beautiful... 18:22 KikaRz why XChat bar icon got black ... 18:22 KikaRz black background? 18:23 KikaRz my screensaver was b ugging my pc 18:23 KikaRz i guess. 18:23 KikaRz fucking disabled. 18:24 KikaRz PilzAdam 18:24 KikaRz what i do now? 18:24 KikaRz :( 18:25 PilzAdam read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux 18:25 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 18:25 KikaRz no thanks 18:25 KikaRz what i do now (without being kernel things) 18:25 KikaRz *without reading 18:25 KikaRz FAAAAIL 18:26 PilzAdam you cant do much if you say you dont want to read 18:26 PilzAdam you cant play MT 18:29 PilzAdam KikaRz, is that too much reading? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7-qnFk_sk 18:29 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: What is Linux? - YouTube 18:31 PilzAdam if you dont want to read that much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDIW8syi3Y 18:31 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Introduction to Linux Series - What is Linux - YouTube 18:34 NakedFury is there a 6.0.1 untethered jailbrake icrap user here? 18:35 * marktraceur is glad there are brakes on the jails in this country 18:37 hmmmm xchat pseudotransparency is worked around in xfce as of 4.10 18:37 PilzAdam KikaRz, if you like eggs with beart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gCwCOhMcog 18:37 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Introduction to Linux - YouTube 18:37 hmmmm it's actually an Xorg library bug that's never been fixed 18:42 Calinou hmmmm: compositing, slowing down games since 1998(R) 18:42 telek hmmmm: Not the first bug that hasn't... (Like support for pseudocolor visuals in anything post-Xorg/XFree split) 18:42 Calinou hmmmm: alt+mouse wheel on xchat's window title 18:42 Calinou works for me (when compositing is on) 18:43 hmmmm calinou, we're talking about xchat's built in pseudotransparency in the main text box, not using the compositor to set the opacity of the entire window 18:43 Calinou ah 18:45 markveidemanis are you there 18:48 devlab wow, can seeds be configured? 18:49 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 I want graphics like this in MineTeeeeeest ;( 18:49 moltenbot Taoki's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 18:49 Calinou fixed_map_seed = seed_number_here (eg. 128938) 18:49 Calinou do that before creating a map 18:49 Taoki and hi :) 18:49 Calinou (put in minetest.conf) 18:49 Calinou hi Taoki 18:49 PilzAdam hi Taoki 18:49 PilzAdam Taoki, is there a way for Lua entities to get attached players? 18:50 Taoki PilzAdam: Sure thing. I posted about that in the lua api file, players and lua entities can be attached to either of the two 18:50 FreeFull Taoki: The performance improvements are really CPU-wise, so it shouldn't really affect how well shaders run 18:50 Taoki I think it's set_attach(parent, vector position, vector rotation) 18:50 Taoki Erm no, 18:50 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/340 < breaks whole purpose of shaders currently (minus the water) 18:50 moltenbot Calinou's link: Make shader-less lighting look better (darken sides instead of brightening top side) by Calinou ? Pull Request #340 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub 18:50 PilzAdam oh, the question was wrong 18:50 Taoki set_attach(object parent, string bone, vector position, vector rotation) 18:51 Taoki PilzAdam: ^ 18:51 Taoki If not attaching to a bone then use "" for bone 18:51 devlab lol, seed: 829634675458991180 is my current seed, and it's an awesome seed 18:51 PilzAdam I mean: is there a way for Lua entities to get the players that are attached to it 18:52 Taoki PilzAdam: A function to read children was not added. BVut that should be possible by persisting each player in a list in the lua script when it gets attached 18:52 Taoki So when you do set_attach you add that player's name to a list, and when you do set_detach remove it. That should work unless it's a more complicated script and that fails 18:53 PilzAdam I do it like this 18:53 PilzAdam I just was looking for a better way to do it 18:53 Taoki FreeFull: That's good. Performance improvements are needed for the CPU side primarily... since even before shaders were in MineTest works very slow with large draw distance 18:53 Taoki ok. Sadly no such function so no 18:54 NakedFury what are the future plans for equipment in minetest? any idea? 18:55 PilzAdam Taoki, just want to clear things: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/commit/6611c74bda5ffff8b50bd4c0a9dc88d32bd70598 18:55 moltenbot PilzAdam's link: Remove a TODO ? 6611c74 ? PilzAdam/carts ? GitHub 18:55 Taoki Well, you can hold items in your hand, and eventually there will be support for armor. Don't know about anything else 18:55 Taoki PilzAdam: What does that line do? 18:56 PilzAdam it stores the driver of the cart 18:57 Taoki oh, ok. Yeah I think that will remain needed 18:57 Taoki To store it in lua 19:00 KikaRz back 19:00 KikaRz my christmas tree is done 19:01 KikaRz who can make a brightness system for minetest? 19:01 marktraceur KikaRz: What did you baste it with? 19:04 KikaRz baste? 19:04 KikaRz the mining its too dificult 19:04 KikaRz without loight 19:04 KikaRz *light 19:04 KikaRz (not with torches 19:04 PilzAdam there is a brightness system in Minetest 19:05 KikaRz wh ere? 19:05 PilzAdam everywhere 19:05 KikaRz ... 19:05 KikaRz not that 19:05 marktraceur KikaRz: Do you mean wielded light sources? 19:05 KikaRz a brightness adjuster 19:05 marktraceur Oh. Christ. 19:05 marktraceur KikaRz: It's called your monitor settings. 19:06 KikaRz ... 19:06 KikaRz f* 19:06 KikaRz i cant put brightness to 100 19:06 KikaRz its at 70% 19:06 KikaRz more than that... 19:06 KikaRz (OH, MY EYES! 19:07 telek Heh 19:07 KikaRz ok 19:07 KikaRz going to play 19:07 KikaRz which server i should use 19:07 KikaRz ? 19:07 KikaRz OH! TELEK! YOURE BACK! 19:07 KikaRz *__* 19:07 PilzAdam localhost 19:07 KikaRz I MISSED YOU SO MUCH 19:07 * telek snickers :D 19:07 KikaRz PilzAdam, i hate singleplayer. 19:07 KikaRz ,making a massage to my cat 19:07 marktraceur KikaRz: I suppose you could change your default mod to emit light at a low level from *every node*, but that would get annoying 19:08 telek I made a comment earlier and you didn't even notice :D 19:08 KikaRz nope , 19:08 KikaRz that was too much to see 19:08 KikaRz telek 19:08 KikaRz may i create a server to our two? 19:09 KikaRz i forgot Muadtalk's server 19:09 KikaRz i forgot Muadtr*alk's server 19:09 telek Does lightin start out black, or does it start out at some offset value based on the current time of day? 19:09 KikaRz ??? 19:09 telek kikarz: minetest.sytes.net 30004, but it was down last time I tried. 19:10 telek Erm 30001 19:10 KikaRz Oh 19:10 KikaRz yea 19:10 KikaRz OldCoder is offline 19:10 KikaRz what happened with him? :'( 19:10 telek OC? 19:10 KikaRz yea 19:10 KikaRz he's the hoster 19:10 telek He said soemthing about being gone for a week, I think. 19:10 KikaRz ok, go to m13's server 19:10 KikaRz m13.servegame.com:30001 19:11 KikaRz idk if its 0.4.4 19:11 marktraceur Lucky guy 19:11 marktraceur Not having to deal with Minetest people. 19:11 marktraceur Why do I keep coming back here? 19:11 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 19:11 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000 DOWN 19:11 KikaRz not 30000 19:11 KikaRz its 30001 19:11 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com:30001 19:11 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001:30000 DOWN 19:11 KikaRz fail 19:11 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 30001 19:11 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001 DOWN 19:11 KikaRz its down? 19:11 KikaRz but im joining 19:11 khonkhortisan !up m13.servegame.com 30001! 19:11 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP 19:11 khonkhortisan haha 19:11 PilzAdam marktraceur, builtin/item.lua line 403: change 0 to 14 19:11 KikaRz ! ? 19:11 KikaRz ah 19:11 KikaRz server 19:11 khonkhortisan sudo tell me it's up 19:12 KikaRz server versions 19:12 OldCoder Hi 19:12 KikaRz OldCoder??? 19:12 KikaRz WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? 19:12 OldCoder I am not gone! 19:12 OldCoder at all! 19:12 OldCoder :D 19:12 KikaRz YAAAAAY! 19:12 OldCoder A month ago I said a week away 19:12 OldCoder I don't think that will happen 19:12 KikaRz so? 19:12 OldCoder To the contrary 0.4.4 updates happen this week 19:12 Taoki OldCoder: Hi :) 19:12 OldCoder Taoki, Hi! 19:12 KikaRz where is your stupid OP? 19:12 KikaRz :P 19:12 KikaRz kidding, its not stupid 19:13 Taoki OldCoder: Did you manage to integrate levelDB with 0.4.4 so you can update your server to the latest changes? 19:13 OldCoder I will turn it on later 19:13 OldCoder Taoki, thexyz and RealBadAngel have helped with that 19:13 OldCoder So, yes 19:13 Taoki Awesome! 19:13 telek OC: Oh, I thought you'd just said that a day or two ago. 19:13 OldCoder Everything is expected to work out 19:13 Taoki Nice to see how europe.minetest.org looks with player models :) 19:13 OldCoder telek, thanks... I don't recall saying it. But presently I am busy and not away at all. 19:14 OldCoder Taoki, You will see, to be sure 19:14 OldCoder And I will build clients 19:14 OldCoder My understanding is that network speed may improve too 19:14 Taoki OldCoder: A little. I added a change so players who are perfectly still use no bandwidth 19:14 OldCoder I *did* sleep late today 19:15 OldCoder Taoki, yes. Is that integrated into upstream or is there a pull I should patch in? 19:15 Taoki Like only send position to the server when someching changes locally (either the player moved, looked in another direction, or pressed / unpressed a new key 19:15 OldCoder Yep 19:15 Taoki Previously all players were sending data, now idle players will make things cheaper 19:15 Taoki It is before 0.4.4 19:15 Taoki So that means it's in 19:15 OldCoder Very well 19:16 KikaRz who got a boats, mesecons, rails, carts, technic (if possible), moreblocks and others? 19:16 marktraceur KikaRz: You do! 19:16 KikaRz yea, offline. 19:17 marktraceur Not if you give out your IP! 19:17 Taoki marktraceur: Hi 19:17 telek Lol @ mt 19:17 marktraceur Taoki: Howdy, what's up? 19:17 Taoki marktraceur: How is that campaign to raise funds for MineTest going? I assume not too well from what I seen :( 19:17 Taoki Not much 19:17 marktraceur Taoki: Yeah, I sort of let it fizzle. People don't seem into it. 19:17 KikaRz give me that mod pack 19:18 Taoki OldCoder: Oh. 0.4.4 also has a congestion management code, which should make logins faster. Still slow for me to connect to europe.minetest.org but otherwise it is faster 19:18 * Taoki nods 19:18 KikaRz im not with patience to install them all 19:18 marktraceur Taoki: I'm optimistic that with multiple games, a wider method of advertisement, and support from others, it would be more possible to successfully complete a campaign. I just can't do that right now. 19:18 Taoki yeah, that would be nice 19:19 OldCoder Taoki, I look forward to trying it 19:20 Taoki Heh, I can tell celeron55 is also from Europe. The minetest forum is extremely fast for me (I click refresh and it instantly reloads, nearly like a local page) 19:20 Taoki OldCoder: Alwo, we have shaders! They aren't used for a lot but soon we might have detailed post-processing and visuals :D 19:20 OldCoder :-) 19:21 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 I wanna se MineTest look like this! 19:21 moltenbot Taoki's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 19:21 OldCoder Taoki, This still reverts to 2D if there are no 3D models. Correct? 19:21 OldCoder I wish to keep some worlds with the fun 2D drawings 19:21 thexyz minetest.net is hosted in Hetzner, Germany 19:21 Taoki OldCoder: Yes. A lua script sets players to 3D. If not it uses the old ones 19:21 OldCoder Thank you 19:21 OldCoder player*.lua IIRC 19:22 Taoki But that script is default in minetest_game with the default player mesh 19:22 OldCoder k 19:22 KikaRz that are minecraft pics 19:22 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55888 19:22 moltenbot KikaRz's link: GLSL Shaders (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums 19:22 Taoki Yes, the script is player.lua. If you want the old players you can simply remove it, nothing sets the 3D players then 19:22 Taoki Hope you keep them on europe.minetest.org and minetest.org though 19:22 Taoki KikaRz: I know. But I'd like to see something similar in MT 19:23 KikaRz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_gZr8n3_s&list=PLDD96697C6463DBCE&index=2 19:23 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Optimus - Aldeia Global - Pastor - YouTube 19:23 KikaRz Thats funny 19:23 KikaRz Anda barrinha (go on bar ) 19:23 KikaRz that ads bar 19:23 KikaRz on youtube 19:23 Jordach wow, working with mito551 for a lets play was really good 19:23 KikaRz cachopo = boy 19:23 KikaRz Hey, i can participate too ? *_* 19:24 KikaRz but no mic 19:24 KikaRz xd 19:28 KikaRz markveidemanis. 19:28 markveidemanis yes? 19:28 KikaRz > cd .. 19:28 KikaRz > half 19:28 KikaRz > halt 19:28 KikaRz > cd minetest 19:28 markveidemanis ? 19:29 KikaRz insert that commands :P 19:29 KikaRz Hi Penguin 19:29 Penguin hi 19:29 KikaRz your game sucks. 19:29 markveidemanis ive already complled 19:29 Penguin Mine? 19:29 KikaRz Yea. Super Tux 2. 19:29 KikaRz 0.3.3 19:29 Penguin Me? 19:29 KikaRz yea 19:29 KikaRz you're tux 19:29 Jordach PilzAdam, should I fork simple_mods to have 3d monsters? 19:29 KikaRz or not? 19:29 Penguin No? 19:29 Jordach s/mods/mobs 19:29 KikaRz you will be rested. 19:30 KikaRz by unpersonification 19:30 KikaRz http://www.transformice.com/?salon=392392 19:30 KikaRz i love that 19:30 Penguin Link Me TO Good Mods People 19:31 KikaRz mesecon.tk 19:31 Penguin Naa Have it any more 19:32 PilzAdam Jordach, I will merge it if its good 19:32 Jordach it will be the sand, stone, dirt and dungeon masters using the character model 19:32 KikaRz ok, so... 19:32 KikaRz Boats mod. 19:32 Jordach (maybe the oerkki?) 19:32 PilzAdam the character model? 19:32 KikaRz oerkki sucks. 19:32 PilzAdam why not create a new model? 19:32 KikaRz i prefer Creeper. 19:32 Jordach because the monsters were the player skin before 19:33 Penguin like to monster mod that works please 19:34 KikaRz i can create some textures. 19:34 KikaRz problem is oerkki... 19:34 KikaRz or not. 19:34 KikaRz we can make 3d textures in transparent 19:34 KikaRz or not? 19:34 Penguin Link to Mobs Mod That works please 19:34 KikaRz Penguin, i prefer Boats mod. 19:34 telek Penguin: Is there one? :D 19:34 KikaRz yes 19:34 KikaRz there is 19:35 Penguin link 19:35 KikaRz simple_mobs 19:35 telek I kept getting crashes with either of the mob mods out there. 19:35 KikaRz search 19:35 KikaRz google is for that. 19:36 KikaRz http://lmgtfy.com/?q=simple_mobs+Minetest+Forum 19:36 moltenbot KikaRz's link: Let me google that for you 19:37 Penguin lol 19:37 KikaRz Or just enter: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=40 / https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/wiki / https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/zipball/master 19:37 moltenbot KikaRz's link: View mod - Simple Mobs - Minetest Extensions 19:37 KikaRz 3 sites 19:37 KikaRz you happy? 19:39 KikaRz who can give me youtube music downloader? 19:39 PilzAdam apt-get install minitube 19:40 KikaRz or... ? 19:40 telek kikarz: movgrab or youtube-dl 19:40 KikaRz Thank you telek. 19:40 telek Not graphical though 19:40 KikaRz can i download the 3 ? 19:40 telek Is minitube graphial? 19:40 KikaRz i know telek 19:40 telek Yep 19:40 KikaRz idk 19:40 PilzAdam telek, MiniTube has a GUI 19:40 telek apt-get install movgrab youtube-dl minitube 19:40 KikaRz fuck this terminal 19:40 telek PilzAdam: Neat. 19:41 PilzAdam its actually a "client" for youtube 19:41 telek Ahh neat. 19:41 OldCoder PilzAdam, telek Read the credits for movgrab 19:41 OldCoder :D 19:41 OldCoder <--- Is in the credits 19:42 telek kikarz: Every time someone using a *nix curses the terminal, another virgin nerd dies. 19:42 KikaRz ok 19:42 KikaRz ill not download movgrab 19:42 OldCoder Oh 19:42 OldCoder Thought you mentioned movgrab as opposed to minitube 19:42 KikaRz telek, no problem 19:42 OldCoder My mistake; I contributed to one but not the other 19:42 KikaRz not my problem 19:42 KikaRz it was youtube 19:42 telek OC: Ahh. 19:42 KikaRz *terminal 19:42 telek Ahh ok :D 19:43 KikaRz E: Não foi possível encontrar o pacote movgrab 19:43 KikaRz better. 19:43 KikaRz It couldn't be possible to find the package movgrab 19:43 KikaRz cool! 19:43 telek OldCoder: I did mention movgrab :D I actually don't think I've used it though :) 19:43 telek And yeah doesn't appear ubuntu has it in it's regular repositories. 19:43 OldCoder It is Colum's project; pretty good 19:44 OldCoder He and I have talked about getting it into the repos 19:44 OldCoder It is easy to build 19:44 KikaRz Hahahah 19:45 KikaRz one question 19:45 KikaRz +18. 19:45 KikaRz who wants to answer me 19:45 KikaRz go in quot 19:45 KikaRz there are kids here 19:46 marktraceur KikaRz: Was there a question in there? 19:46 KikaRz yep 19:47 KikaRz kids, put your hands in your eyes. 19:47 KikaRz this gonna be deadly 19:47 KikaRz whats the question? 19:47 KikaRz xd 19:47 MiJyn if it's inappropriate, don't even ask it 19:47 MiJyn if it isn't, why don't you ask it? 19:48 PilzAdam remember how this channel is called 19:48 MiJyn yes exactly 19:48 telek Random question: Who here would apply online to a job over an unencrypted link?\ 19:48 telek IE http instead of https, not like vpn or something. 19:48 marktraceur telek: Seems like a terrible idea. 19:48 MiJyn telek, depends how critical the information is... if everyone knows the info you are about to give, then why not 19:49 marktraceur MiJyn: You usually need to include....well, everything 19:49 telek Yeah. I haven't seen SSN required yet, but it's a 5 page app and you can't skip between pages. 19:49 MiJyn oh 19:49 telek SSN is the american tax ID, but it's used for *EVERYTHING* 19:49 MiJyn ask them if there is an SSL version of it 19:50 telek john_minetest: Most places don't even accept paper apps anymore. 19:50 telek MiJyn: Nope, it's the web administration port :) 19:51 MiJyn telek, oh 19:51 telek john_minetest: Yep. Only place in the past 5ish years that has had a paper app was 7-11 19:51 telek Oh wait, and Taco Bell. 19:51 telek But given how many apps they 'lost' on me.... 19:53 KikaRz my linux had a problem 19:53 telek PEBKAC. 19:53 KikaRz ... 19:53 KikaRz not LINUX 19:53 KikaRz ITS XUBUNTU! 19:53 telek Lol. 19:53 telek The problem has been diagnosed as 'PEBKAC'. 19:53 telek Please google :) 19:54 marktraceur KikaRz: What happened? Kernel panic? 19:54 KikaRz ... 19:54 KikaRz no 19:54 marktraceur KikaRz: What was the problem? 19:55 KikaRz lmgtfy.com/?q=PEBKAC+problem 19:55 khonkhortisan http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PEBKAC+problem 19:55 moltenbot khonkhortisan's link: Let me google that for you 19:55 marktraceur KikaRz: That doesn't answer my question 19:56 KikaRz it searches me it 19:56 KikaRz mother... 19:56 KikaRz GRRRR 19:56 khonkhortisan what problem did xubuntu have? 19:56 KikaRz PEBKAC ("Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair") 19:56 KikaRz when my pc lags 19:56 KikaRz and starts processing faster 19:56 KikaRz it breaks 19:57 marktraceur KikaRz: "breaks" is not very exact. What happens? 19:57 KikaRz i cant move mouse / keyboard etc 19:57 KikaRz it freezes. 19:57 KikaRz then, when it goes back 19:57 KikaRz its like, nothing happened 19:57 KikaRz the Net goes down 19:57 PilzAdam magic SysRQ 19:58 telek kikarz: Laptop or Desktop? 19:58 KikaRz Laptop 19:58 KikaRz its frequent 19:58 KikaRz in this pc 19:58 telek Try blowing in the intake vent and see if a bunch of dust floats out. 19:58 thexyz REISUB 19:59 PilzAdam REISUO 19:59 khonkhortisan don't breathe it in. It makes me sneeze 19:59 KikaRz when i had windows, same happened 19:59 KikaRz i opened it 19:59 KikaRz and seen a lot of cotton , etc 19:59 telek If so you need some compressed air, a toothpick (maybe a couple). Shut it down, carefully place toothpicks in the fans so they won't spin (overspinning them can damage the bearings causing them to fail), then blow out with compressed air. 19:59 KikaRz already. 19:59 khonkhortisan I never knew about REISUB 19:59 telek How recently? 20:00 KikaRz telek 20:00 KikaRz since i received it 20:00 telek Cute, regarding REISUB 20:00 KikaRz at 1 year ago 20:00 khonkhortisan Is that reisub in my windowmanager's keyboard layout, the text mode layout, or the default one? 20:01 telek Kikarz: You should clean it out at least quarterly and preferably monthly. 20:01 KikaRz already. 20:01 telek Oh you already did? 20:01 KikaRz i did that at 2 weeks ago 20:01 KikaRz khonkhortisan 20:02 KikaRz While holding those down, type the following keys in order, several seconds apart: REISUB; Computer should reboot. 20:02 KikaRz You must be kidding me 20:02 telek kikarz: Might be the thermal paste drying out then. 20:02 KikaRz i didnt added a thermal paste. 20:02 telek You can get away with ALT-SYSRQ SSS B 20:02 KikaRz what away 20:02 KikaRz ? 20:02 telek kikarz: If it's a laptop it still generally has paste between the heatsink and processor. 20:02 KikaRz going to add. 20:03 KikaRz idk how i add it 20:03 Jordach oh god 20:03 telek The stuff is only rated for a couple years of operation, so it can dry out and either act as an insulator or simply not transfer heat efficiently (depending on the type.) 20:03 * Jordach might turn the pc off to check, since jordach has dealt with this before 20:04 telek ?? 20:04 telek Overheating? 20:04 Jordach OldCoder - good afternoob 20:04 Jordach noon 20:04 KikaRz lol 20:04 KikaRz afternoob 20:05 KikaRz after it was noob 20:05 KikaRz now its nerd 20:05 KikaRz xd 20:05 Jordach telek - my last pc died because of a overclock + no heat paster 20:05 KikaRz going to eat soap. 20:05 telek Jordach ouch. 20:05 KikaRz ( i hate soap) 20:05 Jordach telek - the p4 gpu helped too 20:05 telek kikarz: Somebody finally decided to wash out that foul mouth of yours, eh? :D 20:05 Jordach the textures glitched like crazy 20:06 telek Jordach: P4s did that. 20:06 KikaRz lol 20:06 KikaRz telek 20:06 khonkhortisan_ I don't think I did it quite right, but it worked. I'm suprised I didn't know about that 20:06 MiJyn @telek, I think /ignore is the best way lol 20:06 KikaRz i received this pc... at 1 / 2 years ago 20:06 KikaRz at 1 / 2 years ago 20:06 Jordach MiJyn - i said that weeks ago 20:06 telek My parents killed a brand new one I put together for them a few years back in like 6 months to a year thanks to not religiously cleaning the dust out. 20:06 Jordach and this aint twitter 20:06 KikaRz it was almsot burning 20:06 mauvebic my p4 still works 20:06 KikaRz it looked like a plane 20:06 telek Heck same problem is probably going to happen with their current system. 20:06 KikaRz it made so much sound 20:06 mauvebic but ive had to change the PSU, the ram, the hard drive, the graphics card, the BIOS battery, uhm, what else 20:06 MiJyn Jordach, yeah 20:06 khonkhortisan_ telek, and I thought _I_ had lots of dust 20:07 KikaRz at 9 months, i cleaned it, it was constantly making noise 20:07 telek Then I'm just going to hook them up with a 60 dollar chinese android adapter for the TV and make them surf on that :D 20:07 KikaRz then, before cleaning it... 20:07 KikaRz done 20:07 KikaRz no more noise 20:07 KikaRz and the lags, stopped. 20:07 KikaRz brb 20:07 telek khonkhortisan_: Yeah I've never figured out why, but the place is full of it. 20:07 telek kikarz: Ok. 20:11 khonkhortisan_ yuck, sysrq is in qwerty 20:11 khonkhortisan_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key 20:11 moltenbot khonkhortisan_'s link: Magic SysRq key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 20:13 OldCoder Jordach, Hi 20:16 sema4 any modding API experts on now? 20:18 marktraceur sema4: Probably! Ask your question :) 20:19 sema4 well, i am trying to discern the intended function of paramtype="light" in minetest.register_node() 20:21 sema4 it seems to be necessary when using nodetype="nodebox" 20:22 sema4 otherwise the contents of the nodebox are rendered in black 20:22 PilzAdam do you need it in a special situation? 20:23 sema4 well, ideally i do not want to use it, since it seems to cause undersirable lighting effects 20:23 PilzAdam yea, its kinda annyoing that you have to use it when using nodeboxes 20:23 PilzAdam but its due to the design of Minetest's lighting system 20:23 sema4 hmm 20:24 khonkhortisan it's 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER yea 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER and? 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER its with print screen 20:24 sema4 is it do do with visibility of surfaces within the boundng box? 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER !up minetest.lol.net:30001! 20:24 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.lol.net:30001!:30000 DOWN 20:24 khonkhortisan ^ LongyLongName 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER xd 20:24 KikaRzSOAPDINNER kidding 20:25 KikaRzSOAPDINNER LOOOL!" 20:25 KikaRzSOAPDINNER forgot to remove the name 20:25 KikaRz im back 20:25 * marktraceur should have ignored her long ago 20:25 khonkhortisan !up mt1.gameboom.net:30000¡ 20:25 moltenbot Minetest server mt1.gameboom.net:30000¡:30000 DOWN 20:25 khonkhortisan ? 20:26 PilzAdam sema4, IIRC, Minetest saves the light at the corners of a node; when using nodeboxes this system cant tell wich boxes have to be lit up 20:26 khonkhortisan it takes out an exclamation point, but not an upside-down one 20:26 KikaRz guys 20:26 sema4 ok that makes sense 20:26 KikaRz in minitube, how i play videos? 20:26 KikaRz i need to download them? 20:27 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, KikaRz, the correct syntax is: !up IP port 20:27 KikaRz downloading all parodys 20:27 KikaRz i know pilzadam 20:27 KikaRz someone got ! on the end of it 20:27 KikaRz with : 20:27 KikaRz and worked 20:27 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com:30001! 20:27 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001!:30000 DOWN 20:27 KikaRz like taht 20:27 khonkhortisan it works with !up IP:port! too 20:27 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 30001! 20:27 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP 20:27 khonkhortisan oh 20:27 KikaRz that 20:27 khonkhortisan it worked before 20:27 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 30000! 20:27 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30000! DOWN 20:27 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 30004! 20:27 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30004! DOWN 20:27 KikaRz !up m13.servegame.com 30001! 20:27 moltenbot Minetest server m13.servegame.com:30001! UP 20:27 KikaRz ok 20:28 KikaRz what ! does? 20:28 PilzAdam sema4, leave as fast as you can; botwar ahead 20:28 khonkhortisan gets ignored 20:28 marktraceur Boy, with RealBadAngel, KikaRz, and the bots all ignored, I'm not sure I'll ever see activity in here. 20:29 marktraceur It's wonderful! 20:29 sema4 marktraceur: only topical conent! 20:29 khonkhortisan channels are too quiet to quiet anyone 20:29 KikaRz ... 20:29 KikaRz stupid marktraceur. 20:29 PilzAdam gtg; bye 20:29 KikaRz yea 20:29 KikaRz if we ignore everyone in channels... 20:29 marktraceur khonkhortisan: I would be worried about that if this channel hadn't been a constant source of irritation since the bots and KikaRz joined 20:30 KikaRz marktraceur, ... you too stupid 20:30 KikaRz you dont know that i write in keyboard without looking at screen and at it. 20:30 KikaRz and i dont think in what im goign to write 20:30 KikaRz thats why 20:31 KikaRz where are the videos downloadeds of Minitube saved at? 20:32 khonkhortisan you could download the video directly from youtube 20:32 KikaRz :( 20:32 khonkhortisan oh. download button. Never mind. 20:32 KikaRz cant download. 20:33 khonkhortisan if you have firefox you can 20:34 sema4 ok so the necessity for 'paramtype="light"' on a nodebox is due to a known behaviour of minetest engine that is not easily fixed at that time; great. so my second question was -- what SHOULD paramtype="light" do on a normal node, does it indicate that the node is a light source? 20:34 OldCoder Penguin, hi 20:34 Penguin hi 20:34 KikaRz Error downloading http://r12---sn-apn7en7z.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=870QbynnST8&sparams=cp... 20:34 KikaRz server replied: Forbidden 20:34 khonkhortisan it was used on mesecon note blocks, and made light pass through them. Building a box of them doesn't make it dark inside. 20:35 Penguin urm me and baby face want the industral pack on the server its a mod shall i like it ? 20:35 KikaRz i know making musics 20:35 KikaRz on note blocks 20:35 khonkhortisan it sounds like you and baby face like it 20:35 KikaRz i hate when a noteblock is on top of stone (not cobble) 20:36 khonkhortisan noteblocks need more range 20:36 KikaRz who can help me? 20:36 khonkhortisan and a gui 20:36 Penguin Oldcoder? 20:36 KikaRz oh! xd, fail 20:36 sema4 ok, how does that differ from sunlight_propagates = true ? 20:36 KikaRz i forgot one thing 20:36 KikaRz i can copy the url 20:36 KikaRz and use youtube-dl 20:36 KikaRz how i use youtube-dl ? 20:37 OldCoder Penguin, yes 20:37 OldCoder I am he 20:37 OldCoder :-) 20:37 KikaRz *him 20:37 Penguin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 20:37 moltenbot Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 20:37 KikaRz oldcoder, how i use youtube-dl? 20:37 Penguin Me and baby like it and he and i wants it on server if you can please? 20:37 OldCoder KikaRz, movgrab is better. But try: 20:37 OldCoder youtube-dl LINK 20:37 KikaRz ok 20:38 KikaRz link or i set there the link? 20:38 OldCoder Where LINK is a YouTube video link 20:38 OldCoder link or i set there the link? 20:38 OldCoder I am not clear on the question 20:38 KikaRz ERROR: unable to download video 20:38 OldCoder May be outdated. Try movgrab. 20:39 KikaRz ... 20:39 Penguin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 20:39 moltenbot Penguin's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 20:39 iqualfragile !re 20:39 KikaRz how i connect ssl in the terminal? 20:39 KikaRz poor moltenbot 20:39 KikaRz Hi moltenbot 20:39 KikaRz hi moltenbot 20:39 KikaRz stupid bot. 20:39 KikaRz do not says me hi. 20:39 iqualfragile jup 20:39 iqualfragile hi moltenbot 20:39 moltenbot hi iqualfragile 20:39 iqualfragile put you on ignore 20:39 Penguin lol 20:39 KikaRz hi moltenbot 20:39 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:39 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:40 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 20:40 khonkhortisan hi moltenbot 20:40 moltenbot hi khonkhortisan 20:40 KikaRz mother f****** 20:40 KikaRz die in hell 20:40 KikaRz b*stard 20:40 Penguin say hi moltenbot 20:40 KikaRz hi moltenbot 20:40 KikaRz he set me ignore 20:40 KikaRz in the bot. 20:40 Penguin lol 20:40 Penguin why 20:40 iqualfragile OldCoder: KikaRz uses explicit language 20:40 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:40 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:40 KikaRz cause he's gay. 20:40 KikaRz ok, explicit 20:40 OldCoder Reviewing 20:40 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:41 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:41 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:41 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:41 OldCoder KikaRz, be polite 20:41 KikaRz because he is homossexual 20:41 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:41 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:41 celeron55 sema4: the engine stores the brightness of light in the node if paramtype="light", and the brightness of nodeboxes is applied from the brightness in the node itself 20:41 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:41 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:41 Penguin hi moltenbot 20:41 moltenbot hi Penguin 20:41 KikaRz now people will spam 20:41 OldCoder Stop 20:41 KikaRz OldCoder, ban bot. 20:41 Penguin lol sorry 20:41 OldCoder Penguin, stop 20:41 KikaRz or mute penguin 20:41 OldCoder KikaRz, also; be polite 20:41 OldCoder Or you get muted 20:41 KikaRz not my fault 20:41 Penguin sorry 20:41 iqualfragile !re 20:41 celeron55 sema4: and if paramtype~="light", then the light in the node is effectively 0 20:41 marktraceur Penguin: I'm glad you like the modpack, by the way 20:42 KikaRz hi moltenbot 20:42 KikaRz . 20:42 celeron55 sema4: the paramtypes kind of annoyingly expose some internals of the engine, but it's necessary because of the design of it 20:42 Penguin Oldcoder can u add http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 20:42 sema4 hmm, interesting 20:42 OldCoder R 20:43 OldCoder Penguin, Which part? 20:43 KikaRz yay 20:43 KikaRz bot is down! 20:43 KikaRz hi moltenbot 20:43 KikaRz . 20:43 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 20:43 OldCoder Penguin, there are a lot of pieces. Do you mean, all of them? 20:44 marktraceur OldCoder: There's not really a great way to separate them as of now, so your best bet is to install them all :/ 20:45 Penguin yeh me and baby have them on sp and yeh all please 20:45 OldCoder marktraceur, this seems risky. I am sure they are fine. But are they actually safe? What are the depends? What are the conflicts? 20:45 Penguin farming oldcoder 20:45 KikaRz iqualfragile, that's my revenge. 20:45 marktraceur OldCoder: They all mostly just depend on each other, but farming is the one external dependency (well, and default) 20:45 OldCoder They will not break other mods? 20:46 OldCoder Are they bad for CPU? 20:46 Jeija|OFF Any volunteers for testing a new revision of mesecons? https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/archive/mesecons_in_nodedef.zip | https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/mesecons_in_nodedef 20:46 Penguin Me 20:46 marktraceur OldCoder: I doubt very much that they'll break other mods, but it's possible. The craft recipes are all listed, the one that comes to mind as potentially bad is the gear. 20:46 OldCoder How so? 20:46 OldCoder What are possible risks? 20:46 marktraceur OldCoder: The CPU should be OK. There are a lot of ABMs, but it shouldn't be much heavier than a furnace. 20:47 OldCoder I'd like to try them 20:47 marktraceur OldCoder: Just a possible craft conflict, but it's not too bad. 20:47 OldCoder Can anybody else present comment? 20:47 OldCoder Penguin, marktraceur I'd like to put them in. May I finish the 0.4.4 upgrade first? 20:47 OldCoder That is more important 20:47 OldCoder It is easy to add things 20:47 marktraceur OldCoder: No problem! 20:47 OldCoder Fixing damage when worlds break is much tougher! 20:47 KikaRz '-' 20:47 OldCoder So I prefer to go one step at a time 20:47 KikaRz thats too difficult 20:47 OldCoder ? 20:48 Penguin oldcoder your updating servers to 0.4.4 20:48 marktraceur *nod* 20:48 KikaRz OldCoder, when will minetest add new biomes? (jungle, forest, flatlands, snow... 20:48 KikaRz etc? 20:48 sema4 thanks celeron55, i think that answers everything for me. 20:48 KikaRz i want to make ice hocket 20:48 KikaRz *hockey 20:48 OldCoder KikaRz, I have a snow mod. Can you be more specific about biomes? 20:48 iqualfragile :wq 20:49 iqualfragile uhm… too much vim 20:49 Penguin oldcoder your updating servers to 0.4.4 20:49 KikaRz OldCoder, We can go on ice 20:49 KikaRz and make... skating? 20:49 Jeija I'm interested in: Are there any bugs? Please try lots of different blocks | Do you like the new design of the "receiver" ( the wire behind the wall levers/wall buttons) | Do you like the few changes in the mesecon wire design (crossings) 20:49 Penguin okay will test jeija 20:49 Jeija thanks :) 20:50 Penguin what are textures like 20:51 Penguin any dependencies 20:53 KikaRz I FOUND THE NAME OF OLDCODER! 20:53 KikaRz it's Robert Crowley 20:53 KikaRz XD 20:54 Jeija no dependencies 20:54 OldCoder KikaRz, That is the Anglicized name 20:54 OldCoder Not the original 20:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hello 20:54 KikaRz what's the original *o* 20:54 KikaRz Hi NekoGloop 20:55 OldCoder I will direct you to pages later 20:55 OldCoder Let us finish the compile for now 20:55 KikaRz '-' 20:55 KikaRz it opened fucking clive 20:55 KikaRz clive 20:55 KikaRz clive is a command line media extraction tool for Youtube and similar websites that require flash. It is written in Perl. 20:55 KikaRz xd 20:57 Penguin jeija i got kick out when placeing blinkeyplant and mesecon next to it 20:58 Penguin 20:55:05: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer places node mesecons_blinkyplant:bl 20:58 KikaRz ??? 20:58 KikaRz how? 20:58 KikaRz that never happened to me 20:58 KikaRz i place a lot of blinky plants in row 20:59 KikaRz and mesecons 20:59 KikaRz and never happens that 20:59 Penguin wait 20:59 thexyz original is Robert Kiraly, I guess 20:59 KikaRz OldCoder, Progress: 100.00% 7.3M of 7.3M 55.7k/s 21:01 Penguin ServerError:LuaError:error: ...mes\minetest_game\mods\mesecon\mesecons internal.lua:49:attempt to index 21:01 KikaRz whats spoken ? 21:01 KikaRz in russian / germany ? 21:01 KikaRz no 21:01 KikaRz Deutsch 21:01 KikaRz what means spoken? 21:01 Jeija Yeah, Penguin, can you post the rest of that message? 21:01 Penguin okay 21:02 KikaRz * #!/bin/mksh :http://mirbsd.de/mksh 21:02 KikaRz Hi, here is the mkdir channel? 21:02 KikaRz (joking with the deutschlands. 21:02 KikaRz xd 21:02 KikaRz Kicked. 21:03 Jeija wait penguin I think I found it... 21:03 KikaRz Jeija, in VanessaE's server 21:03 OldCoder KikaRz, you have the video 21:03 KikaRz dont happens that 21:03 OldCoder It is working. Have fun. 21:03 KikaRz OldCoder, what i do to get it? 21:03 KikaRz into my pc? 21:03 KikaRz just transfer folder to my pc? 21:03 KikaRz with filezilla? 21:04 Penguin jeija? 21:04 Jeija ... 21:04 Jeija let me please first fix the bug 21:04 Penguin i will try again 21:05 NekoGloop let's please not bug the shit out of the modmakesr 21:05 Penguin okay i will continue lookat it 21:05 NekoGloop keep in mind they're fighting with a shit API 21:05 Jeija pushed 21:06 thexyz NekoGloop: why do you think this api is shit? 21:06 NekoGloop thexyz: because it is? 21:06 thexyz it isn't 21:10 Penguin Command blocks work perfect no fault other than side textture bug its black 21:12 telek Here's a cute one for you: 6 page application that uses ajax, non-scripted buttons (so it works even when the ajax doesn't) and doesn't let you know that it didn't actually store any of your info until you complete the app and it's blank :) 21:12 sema4 bbl 21:13 marktraceur telek: Sounds like you found some real brilliant web programmers, there. 21:16 Jeija Ok, Penguin, anything else? 21:17 Jeija thanks Penguin, bb everyone 21:25 iqualfragile KikaRz: spoken is gesprochen in german 21:25 KikaRz iqualfragile 21:25 KikaRz no google translate 21:26 KikaRz its spoken 21:26 KikaRz (in english) 21:26 iqualfragile uhm… im german, there is no need for me to use google translate 21:26 KikaRz lol 21:26 KikaRz just tell me 21:26 KikaRz whats spoken in english 21:27 KikaRz (in english = language) 21:27 marktraceur iqualfragile: You mean the bot doesn't have a !translate directive yet? 21:27 KikaRz marktraceur 21:27 KikaRz bot ignored me 21:27 KikaRz ... 21:28 KikaRz i guess OldCoder is dead. 21:29 OldCoder KikaRz, We are in PM right now 21:29 OldCoder What are you talking about? We are building movgrab again 21:32 NekoGloop celeron55: folks in #minecraft think that your webpage is BS. 21:32 marktraceur NekoGloop: Why is there a #minecraft channel on Freenode? 21:32 NekoGloop marktraceur: because it's an off-topic channel 21:33 NekoGloop ##minecraft would be more appropriate. 21:33 iqualfragile1 marktraceur: no, i guess that would be unnececary 21:33 marktraceur iqualfragile1: Well, it's good that you have a line, I suppose. Just don't know why it's so far. 21:33 iqualfragile1 but commands like !up and !ping are usefull 21:34 marktraceur NekoGloop: Frankly it shouldn't be on Freenode at all, but whatever 21:35 iqualfragile1 extract-title-from-website-function is usefull too, to dodge NekoGloop s jrock 21:35 NekoGloop This is precisely why i hate this community 21:35 NekoGloop Judging covers over content 21:36 markveidemanis who wants my map 21:36 celeron55 NekoGloop: BS? 21:36 celeron55 i don't get what could be BS about it 21:36 NekoGloop celeron55: " inspired by InfiniMiner, Minecraft and the like" 21:36 iqualfragile1 bs? 21:36 NekoGloop They dont see the Infiniminer aspect 21:36 iqualfragile1 it haz blocks 21:37 celeron55 so that makes the whole website bullshit? 21:37 markveidemanis i am going to upload my map, tell me what you think of it... 21:37 celeron55 come on 8D 21:37 NekoGloop celeron55: apparently 21:37 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ245eA/World.zip 21:37 markveidemanis test my map 21:37 markveidemanis mods are included in worldmods folder 21:38 celeron55 NekoGloop: ask them to look again 21:38 NekoGloop celeron55: just tell me where the infiniminer aspect is 21:38 iqualfragile1 is there a soft-dependency-structure yet? 21:38 NekoGloop other than "it has blocks" 21:39 KikaRz yay, he's gone 21:39 iqualfragile1 oh, wow, rekonq is fast 21:39 KikaRz BS = Bsod 21:39 KikaRz xd 21:40 KikaRz who knows what is bso, call me maybe... 21:40 NekoGloop ... 21:40 KikaRz hey... i just ... can you seee mee... keep us another... 21:40 KikaRz just call me maybe... 21:40 KikaRz xd 21:40 NekoGloop apparently this child doesnt know what i meant 21:40 KikaRz Kidding 21:40 KikaRz nekogloop, it's a song 21:40 KikaRz not a baby video 21:40 KikaRz '-' 21:40 OldCoder babyface1031, Hey 21:40 babyface1031 OldCoder: hi 21:41 babyface1031 OldCoder: can you look into the industry mod i have it on my single player and it is really neat http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 21:41 moltenbot babyface1031's link: [Modpack] Industry Pack 0.1.1 (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums 21:42 OldCoder R 21:42 OldCoder babyface1031, I think he confirmed that is high CPU 21:42 OldCoder Muadtralk, Hi 21:42 OldCoder babyface1031, Isn't it? 21:42 Muadtralk ello 21:42 OldCoder L.O. 21:43 babyface1031 i can look again but i havent seen it but i might of missed it being added alot going on at home 21:44 iqualfragile who is responsible for http://minetest.com/ 21:44 moltenbot iqualfragile's link: Minetest mods, servers, texture packs, and more! | Minetest-c55 21:44 babyface1031 no i dont see is on the list 21:44 NekoGloop death dealer IIRC 21:45 Muadtralk and i think saxton or some name like that 21:47 leo_rockway [Plantlife] Loaded (enabled...er...nothing!) <--- hehe 21:47 LorenzoVulcan Hello 21:48 marktraceur LorenzoVulcan: Hi! 21:49 LorenzoVulcan This is the minetest channel,Right? 21:49 LorenzoVulcan I am not in something like an applejack hardcore party,am i? 21:49 RealBadAngel hi 21:49 LorenzoVulcan Hello 21:50 iqualfragile hi LorenzoVulcan 21:50 iqualfragile whats an applejack hardcore party? 21:50 LorenzoVulcan Iqual,it's not so easy to explain 21:50 * leo_rockway waves his hand 21:50 KikaRz No this is my toilet's channel 21:50 leo_rockway this is not an applejack hardcore party 21:50 marktraceur LorenzoVulcan: We have those sometimes, but you just missed it on Friday. So you're safe for a bit 21:50 KikaRz J.K 21:50 KikaRz XD 21:51 LorenzoVulcan Thanks mark,I like applejack's hardcore parties. 21:51 NekoGloop This is the channel for minetest. Please fill out this form to continue. 21:51 * telek thinks kikarz must be the foreign version of Assy McGee. 21:51 iqualfragile http://minetestforfreenofake.to 21:51 LorenzoVulcan Ponies are everywhere. 21:51 KikaRz Assy McGee = ? 21:51 KikaRz i prefer Abby, from the CSI... 21:51 KikaRz No 21:51 KikaRz NCSI 21:51 KikaRz NCIS* 21:51 KikaRz she's epic. 21:52 NekoGloop someone delete my mod topics please. 21:52 marktraceur NekoGloop: What for? 21:52 iqualfragile but why? 21:53 LorenzoVulcan Why neko? 21:53 NekoGloop because they arent there anymore? 21:53 Muadtralk because they say go away? 21:53 Muadtralk seems like a good idea to remove forum topics that no longer serve any purpose 21:53 KikaRz lol. 21:53 KikaRz im screaming of stupidness. 21:53 KikaRz (really... im happy + laughing) 21:54 telek They've got a spoof of all those shows too. 21:54 telek With Kate Mulgrew no less (Janeway!) 21:54 D__ Hey, any reason why minetest would think I'm holding down space when I hold down shift+e? 21:54 telek Who I might add has now porked up such that she looks like an 80s female Will Shatner. 21:55 KikaRz NekoGloop, the only mod i hate on your mods 21:55 KikaRz its the GloopOres. 21:55 NekoGloop is all of then 21:55 NekoGloop them* 21:55 KikaRz no 21:55 NekoGloop Go figure 21:55 KikaRz just GloopOres 21:55 KikaRz Reason: 21:55 NekoGloop Each of them suck. 21:55 KikaRz ... let me talk 21:55 KikaRz whats his powerful mineral? 21:55 KikaRz or the mineral that is at level of water 21:55 NekoGloop Alatro 21:56 KikaRz Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand!Go tell people OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand! 21:56 NekoGloop it's only above water 21:56 KikaRz OldCoder is the best!!!!!!1 21:56 KikaRz OldCoder is the best!!!!!!1 21:56 NekoGloop What the hell... 21:56 telek NekoGloop: You know if you feel they suck, you can always take the source and improve them :D 21:56 NekoGloop telek: I'd need the source. 21:57 LorenzoVulcan Do you know you feel they suck,they don't necessary suck... 21:57 LorenzoVulcan I liked your mods. 21:57 telek I'll have to look, but I've got at least one or two of them backed up. Maybe all of them if you want them. 21:57 LorenzoVulcan Why are they wrong? 21:57 NekoGloop Dont want them. 21:57 LorenzoVulcan Ok,that's your choice. 22:00 OldCoder KikaRz, ... 22:00 KikaRz woot? 22:00 KikaRz you said that to me 22:00 OldCoder She was pleased that we got an MP3 to work 22:00 OldCoder KikaRz, I did not 22:00 OldCoder I made a single one-line joke 22:00 OldCoder You want MP3 help again then don't push it 22:00 KikaRz '-' 22:01 * OldCoder shrugs 22:01 OldCoder Enjoy the music 22:01 KikaRz oh , forgot. 22:01 KikaRz People, i have an announcement! OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand, HE'S THE BEST! 22:01 KikaRz People, i have an announcement! OldCoder Brand Coder is the best Brand, HE'S THE BEST! 22:01 marktraceur OldCoder: I've had a wonderful afternoon since /ignore ing KikaRz earlier 22:01 KikaRz xd 22:01 KikaRz i've forgot that thing 22:01 KikaRz marktraceur is noob 22:01 OldCoder KikaRz, Enough. marktraceur O.K. 22:01 KikaRz i've forgot Brand Coder is the best Brand 22:01 NekoGloop It was funnier the first 500 times. 22:02 KikaRz xd 22:02 OldCoder KikaRz, I helped you and I'm kind of busy. You going to pay me back this way? 22:02 KikaRz lol , the Go tell people Old Coder... ? 22:02 OldCoder Gee, thanks 22:02 KikaRz thank you, how i pay you? 22:02 OldCoder By listening to your music 22:02 KikaRz ok 22:02 OldCoder And keeping the channel free of clutter please 22:02 KikaRz now: TNT 22:02 KikaRz Who have a TNT mod? 22:03 KikaRz i love tnt... 22:03 NekoGloop nobody. 22:03 telek Search the forum. 22:03 NekoGloop Go away. 22:03 KikaRz NekoGloop, why you dont walk off? since you want to delete your precious mods? 22:03 telek That's how I got the mods I use. Periodic checking of the forums. 22:03 KikaRz telek, linux its laggy for me 22:04 KikaRz except to listen to music, and to play minetest 22:04 KikaRz not linux! 22:04 KikaRz Its Xubuntu (ubuntu) 22:04 telek And kikarz/NekoGloop: Seriously don't either of you have better things to do than pester each other? 22:04 KikaRz . 22:04 KikaRz telek, one thing i love to do... Sleep. 22:04 telek Xubuntu is just linux which ubuntu is based off of with Xfce instead of Unity. 22:04 telek Lol :D 22:04 KikaRz not Linux!| 22:04 KikaRz Linux is kernel 22:04 KikaRz fail 22:05 telek You're right. It's GNU/Xubuntu :D 22:07 NekoGloop Just... 22:07 NekoGloop Shut. Teh. Fack. Up. 22:07 q66 it's linux 22:07 q66 that's it :P 22:07 q66 nobody cares whether it's correct 22:07 q66 everybody knows what it means 22:08 marktraceur q66: If you have only linux, your life must be either very boring or very exciting :/ 22:08 KikaRz yea 22:08 KikaRz very boring. 22:08 NekoGloop this is a MINETEST channel 22:08 NekoGloop talk about MINETEST 22:08 q66 minetest is boring :< 22:08 q66 let's talk about OS wars 22:08 KikaRz NekoGloop, you boring. 22:08 KikaRz q66, not Minetest, its him, 22:08 NekoGloop I know you're boring 22:09 KikaRz ... NekoGloop, why you dont go editing that post without links? thats the way that nobody downloads your mods 22:09 * q66 should try minetest again 22:09 q66 i last played it around 0.2 22:09 telek q66: Sheesh, no kidding. 22:09 KikaRz too old. 22:09 KikaRz now we got 3d skins 22:09 telek It's advanced by leaps and bounds since then. 22:09 q66 i'm generally aware of the news 22:09 q66 but i never had time to try it out myself 22:09 KikaRz minetest.net/news 22:09 KikaRz or news.php 22:10 KikaRz idk 22:10 KikaRz just go on news tab 22:10 telek Just snag the latest dev client and fire up in single player mod :D 22:10 NekoGloop KikaRz: what? 22:10 q66 does it build on OS X out of box yet? 22:10 q66 last time I tried it required a special fork 22:10 q66 is it merged now? 22:10 NekoGloop q66: no 22:11 NekoGloop macs are bad and you should feel bad 22:11 q66 oh you 22:11 celeron55 :D 22:11 telek q66: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=55239 22:11 moltenbot telek's link: Mac Build? (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums 22:11 q66 if it makes you feel any better, I use about 5 different OSes 22:11 KikaRz celeron55, 22:11 KikaRz i thinked that you were a machine... 22:11 marktraceur q66: Three different kernels? 22:11 KikaRz but you... you really have feelings. 22:12 NekoGloop celeron55: Another entry in the "cool phrases" list from me? :D 22:12 celeron55 KikaRz: machines can have feelings too 22:12 telek That's ok kikarz. We think the same of you :D 22:12 q66 freebsd, mac, linux, illumos and windows 22:12 KikaRz XD 22:12 KikaRz telek, one thing i say about you 22:12 OldCoder KikaRz, startling to imagine that people have feelings 22:12 KikaRz OldCoder, i thinked that celeron55 were a machine.ç 22:13 marktraceur q66: So what you mean is, BSD, XNU, Linux, Solaris, and NT. 22:13 q66 marktraceur, of course. ;) 22:13 NekoGloop celeron55: Well? Is it in the list of cool phrases? :D 22:13 KikaRz 1 in 10000 people have no feelings 22:13 KikaRz (im not one of those 22:13 NekoGloop Why does everyone think NT is the only good windows -_- 22:13 NekoGloop Obviously people dont use windows at all 22:13 marktraceur NekoGloop: Well, what else would you use? 22:14 NekoGloop Windows XP 22:14 FreeFull 98 SE 22:14 q66 NekoGloop, that said, macs are solid machines, the thing is the community by a large part consists of retards and they're sort of .. expensive 22:14 KikaRz 98 SE is awesome 22:14 marktraceur NekoGloop: No no, the kernel 22:14 FreeFull NekoGloop: Um, XP was NT 22:14 NekoGloop y'know, the one that actually works. 22:14 KikaRz it got that space animations 22:14 KikaRz and sounds, and animated backgrounds 22:14 telek Speaking of which. 22:14 KikaRz better than 7. 7 sucks 22:14 marktraceur NekoGloop: Why would we be talking about the full OS? People only care about kernels. 22:14 telek Has anybody gotten minetest running on ReactOS yet? D: 22:14 marktraceur And everybody understands what I mean, of course 22:14 cy1 q66: so wait, its those very same retards who are saying macs are solid machines right 22:14 telek Open Source Minecraft on Open Source Windows! Yay :D 22:15 KikaRz ? 22:15 marktraceur cy1: Watch your mouth 22:15 KikaRz !define Windows 22:15 KikaRz ... stupid bot. 22:15 cy1 marktraceur: something wrong with my mouth? :c 22:15 telek I believe other than links you have to /msg it now, correct? 22:15 marktraceur cy1: "retards" is very offensive, yes. 22:15 KikaRz telek no. 22:15 KikaRz Bot ignored me 22:16 cy1 marktraceur: don't worry about it. 22:16 telek OMG it's skynet all over again. 22:16 marktraceur cy1: Swear up and down if you'd like, but terms that demean a group of people for no good reason are awful. 22:16 q66 cy1, well, e.g. macbooks are some of the best laptops I used, lasting long on battery, not suffering from various problems like overheating and having actually good displays (no 1366x768 crap) 22:16 telek The bot has learned how to /ignore kikarz 22:16 Muadtralk I thought i saw someone running an very outdated version of minetest on reactos telek 22:16 telek Next it'll learn how to trade stocks :D 22:16 q66 but they're expensive as fuck at the same time 22:16 KikaRz telek, what that command does? 22:16 cy1 marktraceur: we're demeaning apple fans, that in itself is a very good reason 22:16 KikaRz (me writes /ignore telek) 22:16 KikaRz hm... 22:16 KikaRz i see... 22:16 leo_rockway telek: if MT runs on WINE, it will run on ReactOS. 22:17 marktraceur cy1: But in the course of doing that you're also implying that people with developmental disabilities are somehow bad. 22:17 q66 leo_rockway, it does 22:17 leo_rockway they share a lot of code. 22:17 q66 i tried it at some point 22:17 telek leo_rockway: Hypothetically, but practically not unless 3d acceleration is working now. 22:17 * KikaRz is going to be stupid as NekoGloop. 22:17 cy1 marktraceur: just because retards are retarded doesn't mean they're bad. just more likely to become apple fans. 22:17 KikaRz 3D Acceleration sucks on Windows 95. 22:17 leo_rockway telek: 3D acceleration works on WINE. It should be working on ReactOS 22:17 KikaRz WINE sucks. 22:18 KikaRz ReactOS its a bit old. 22:18 marktraceur cy1: That word has a lot of history to it, and none of it is good. That's what I mean. 22:18 q66 wine is actually great 22:18 Kray wine doesn't suck at all 22:18 KikaRz Wine sucks. 22:18 q66 you have to realize it's a small miracle it's working at all 22:18 Kray KikaRz sucks. 22:18 telek leo_rockway: Unless ReactOS has the OGL or directx driver hooks in place it actually won't. 22:18 leo_rockway I'm apathetic towards WINE. 22:18 q66 there was a HUGE amount of work behind it 22:18 q66 they basically reimplemented the complete set of windows APIs 22:18 KikaRz Kray smells marktraceur's ass. 22:18 leo_rockway telek: it should. They just need to port it from WINE. 22:18 q66 insane IMO 22:18 telek The fact wine works as well as it does is impressive. 22:18 cy1 marktraceur: don't worry about history. I'm a deconstructionist. 22:18 KikaRz IMO = imo.im - Love that service 22:18 leo_rockway q66: that and smb. 22:19 KikaRz smb = super mario bros 22:19 NekoGloop ... 22:19 telek Although it now doesn't even support 2.6 era kernels so it's quite the moving target. 22:19 leo_rockway samba 22:19 KikaRz Oleee! Brasil! 22:19 KikaRz '-' 22:19 marktraceur cy1: I don't care what you are, I'm offended by your wanton disregard for the consequences of your choice of words. 22:19 * telek prefers xmpp :) 22:19 KikaRz words = letters + letters 22:19 KikaRz xmpp = xampp ? 22:19 leo_rockway XMPP ++ 22:19 Muadtralk wow.... I dont think I have ever seen kray say anytihng on this channel and when he does he gets insulted 22:19 cy1 marktraceur: I'm offended by your surprising prejudices. what did retards ever do to you? 22:19 KikaRz xD 22:19 q66 saying Wine sucks just shows one's utter ignorance on the topic 22:19 cy1 besides buy macs 22:19 KikaRz retard = marktraceur + his bot 22:20 Kray Muadtralk: huh? 22:20 KikaRz q66, Wine sucks because my computer its too slow to run CS 1.6 with it 22:20 Kray me, insulted :D? 22:20 Kray the fuck 22:20 KikaRz No, you are fired. 22:20 Muadtralk (05:18:40 PM) KikaRz: Kray smells marktraceur's ass. 22:20 telek KikarZ: Does CS 1.6 run fine under Windows? 22:20 Kray ah, you meant like that 22:20 KikaRz MuadTralk thinks that KikaRz is a quote bot. 22:20 KikaRz telek, im not in windows 22:20 KikaRz *on 22:20 Muadtralk hmmm? 22:20 q66 CS 1.6 exactly (as well as any goldsrc and Source game) works as fast under Wine as on Windows 22:20 KikaRz im in Linux (yea ubuntu is linux) 22:21 Muadtralk no i thought you were some clueless imbecile tell the truth 22:21 KikaRz q66, never seen 22:21 telek kikarz: Because generally when wine isn't fast, either windows isn't as fast as well or there's driver problems on the linux side. 22:21 KikaRz Muadtralk, im making the same as that person that made Gloop 22:21 telek Usually OGL. 22:21 KikaRz NekoGloop. 22:21 q66 so I guess, get some hardware that is not 10 years old 22:21 q66 and it'll work ok :) 22:21 q66 s/10/12/ 22:21 KikaRz telek, i used D3D and Software 22:22 marktraceur cy1: Goodbye 22:22 telek kikarz: And both were slow? 22:22 cy1 :( 22:22 KikaRz no telek 22:22 q66 of course software rendering is going to be slow 22:22 KikaRz faster as hell 22:22 telek Under Wine you should use OGL if available. 22:22 KikaRz (not software) 22:22 q66 d3d and ogl should work ok 22:22 KikaRz idk using wine 22:22 Muadtralk burningsvideo anyone? 22:23 KikaRz Nope, that's shit. 22:23 KikaRz i prefer openGL 22:23 Muadtralk hmmm? it gives great fps for computers that cant run minetest well 22:23 KikaRz No. 22:24 KikaRz It makes our graphics make stupid. 22:24 cy1 hey, anyone want to come check out this staircase I made yesterday? 22:24 Muadtralk its the difference between 1fps and 10 fps with one computer I knew 22:24 KikaRz i got 1-15 FPS in minetest (linux opengl) 22:24 KikaRz cy1, no. 22:24 * Muadtralk get 120 fps 22:24 Muadtralk gets* 22:24 cy1 retards welcome 22:24 KikaRz Muadtralk, put the computer in the trashbin. 22:24 q66 no u? 22:25 Muadtralk im sorry kikarz but its already full of system32 22:25 q66 It makes our graphics make stupid. 22:25 q66 what the hell is this supposed to mean anyway 22:25 KikaRz thats shit. if it were full, i threw out of the window 22:25 telek kikarz: On a GeForce MX2? 22:25 telek That sounds about right :D 22:25 KikaRz q66, my graphics are stupid with burning... 22:25 KikaRz telek, yes. 22:26 telek I get 10 on my old P4 laptop with an IGP around that era. 22:26 q66 [23:25:26] kikarz: On a GeForce MX2? 22:26 q66 that's still running somewhere? 22:26 q66 I just got rid of like 10. 22:26 Muadtralk stupid graphics and movement is better then a screenshot that eats cpu 22:26 telek That is kikarz current graphics card. 22:26 telek So you can see why she has problems. 22:26 q66 the only old card I kept is voodoo 2 :3 22:26 telek q66: Nice. 22:27 q66 that thing was so awesome back in the day 22:27 KikaRz o.o 22:27 leo_rockway so, shaders... I love the way they look. Will that fry our computers? 22:27 telek I've got a V3, couple GeForce FX, couple R300 radeons, and a couple PCIe cards since. 22:27 leo_rockway I mean the gsls shaders or whatever they are called... 22:27 KikaRz i got the other pc 22:27 KikaRz with S3 something. 22:27 Muadtralk only if you cant support them 22:27 q66 S3 Trio 3D/2X 22:27 telek They will possibly lower game performance on some systems. 22:27 q66 i had a bunch of these too 22:27 q66 and S3 Virge 22:27 Muadtralk you can disable them pretty easily though 22:27 KikaRz thats stupidly ass. 22:27 leo_rockway what's the minimum they should run on? 22:27 KikaRz no, 22:27 telek Honestly a lot of our gpus are fast enough that enabling shaders won't actually have any performance hit at all. 22:28 leo_rockway I have an integrated Intel 22:28 NekoGloop intel gpus cant run shaders 22:28 KikaRz I HAVE S3 VIRGEIN THE OTHER PC 22:28 NekoGloop duh 22:28 KikaRz not virgin 22:28 KikaRz its "virge" "in" 22:28 KikaRz xd 22:28 telek q66: S3's were awesome for late DOS/early DX games 22:28 leo_rockway NekoGloop: v.v 22:28 q66 NekoGloop, wat 22:28 KikaRz yea, 22:28 KikaRz now they suck. 22:28 telek I played XvT, XwA and a few other games on those. 22:28 KikaRz no drivers. 22:28 q66 leo_rockway, if you have a sandy bridge / ivy bridge Intel it should run 22:28 leo_rockway NekoGloop: you just shattered my hopes. 22:28 q66 of course intel graphics support shaders 22:28 leo_rockway q66: I have an ironlake? I think that's what it's called. 22:28 q66 today's intels 22:29 Muadtralk one can only find out by trying yes? 22:29 q66 leo_rockway, so intel hd graphics? 22:29 telek Yep 22:29 q66 then shaders should work just ok for you 22:29 leo_rockway q66: dunno... I guess. 22:29 Muadtralk go now brave soldier and set the shaders to 1! 22:29 telek Could be worse, you could have an Intel Atom with one of those SGX IGPs that doesn't actually have 3d acceleration support :D 22:29 KikaRz Muadtralk 22:29 KikaRz i cant 22:29 Uberi set them to 2, actually, 1 isn't implemented yet 22:30 leo_rockway regular shaders work fine for me 22:30 KikaRz im a princess 22:30 KikaRz not a soldier 22:30 leo_rockway the ones that MT has now in master 22:30 KikaRz Uberi, 1 works too 22:30 leo_rockway I mean Terasology-like shaders. 22:30 q66 the problem with today's intel graphics is not that the performance is bad or the technology support is bad 22:30 KikaRz if i enable shaders 22:30 Uberi terasology doesn't run very well on my old P4 laptop on my desk over there 22:30 KikaRz my screen goes red (red-cyan glasses needed) 22:31 q66 it's that the drivers are bad and require immense amount of workarounds in the 3D engines, even worse than with AMD 22:31 leo_rockway Uberi: it doesn't run very well on my comp either. 22:31 Uberi KikaRz: you too? 22:31 leo_rockway q66: the free drivers improved a LOT in the last few years. 22:31 Uberi but not enough 22:31 leo_rockway well, there's only the free drivers 22:31 KikaRz Uberi everyone 22:31 KikaRz that got old graphics 22:31 Uberi KikaRz: ah well, it adds a bit of atmosphere, no? 22:31 q66 leo_rockway, it's not enough 22:31 Uberi think of it as a Hell biome 22:32 telek q66: Uhmm, the Atom's with like 2 exceptions are PowerVR SGX, not Intel GMA 22:32 KikaRz yes Uberi 22:32 q66 never had an Atom 22:32 KikaRz all blocks etc are red. 22:32 telek Same one as the apple iPod/Pad line, and a number of non-Mali Android devices, but without the 3d acceleration support. 22:32 KikaRz xxd 22:32 q66 telek, that's ... odd 22:33 telek q66: Wikipedia has the full breakdown 22:33 leo_rockway this is my laptop: http://www.vcvshop.com/DELL-VOSTRO-3400-LAPTOP-CORE-i3-24GHz-2GB-DVDRW-WIN7-p-1570.html 22:33 moltenbot leo_rockway's link: DELL VOSTRO 3400 LAPTOP CORE i3 2.4GHz 2GB DVDRW WIN7 - EUR225 : Laptops&Macbooks - Dell - Buy CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, Gaming, NAS, Wii Nintendo, Kitchenware & Hi Tech products in the best prices 22:33 leo_rockway except 4GB of RAM 22:33 q66 telek, if it's the same as in the iphones etc., it should still support at least OpenGL ES 22:33 telek GMA500/600 GMA3600/3650 are all SGX. There's a small run in the middle with GMA3150 which is a G31 derivative I believe, but otherwise they're all PowerVR 22:34 KikaRz when we will invent a better mob than creeper? 22:34 KikaRz and than zombi 22:34 KikaRz and zombie pigman 22:34 KikaRz etc. ? 22:34 KikaRz we could make Rat man 22:34 KikaRz 8) 22:34 KikaRz Ft. Portal 22:34 Uberi +1 for ratman 22:34 telek I just want to know when our minetest companions will be in, so we can adventure with our own support staff :D 22:35 KikaRz who wants ratman in minetest? 22:35 q66 i want pedobear in minetest 22:35 KikaRz No. 22:35 KikaRz Ratman! 22:35 q66 i once remade the dungeon master to be pedobear 22:35 KikaRz Aperture Science isbetter! 22:35 KikaRz yea yea... 22:35 KikaRz and? 22:35 Uberi hello, lawsuit! how are you doing today? 22:36 KikaRz ratman runs. 22:36 KikaRz then, makes a companion cube... 22:36 KikaRz fall into our head 22:36 KikaRz :P 22:37 Muadtralk companion cube? ripping off terasology now are we? 22:37 Muadtralk i tihnk it was terasology 22:37 Muadtralk think* 22:37 KikaRz Muadtralk 22:37 KikaRz Aperture Science... WE do the most because we can.... 22:38 KikaRz and the good of all of us... its that once we are dead... 22:38 Muadtralk yes i know its from portal 22:38 KikaRz companion cube. 22:38 telek What's this terasology? 22:38 Muadtralk but I tihnk terasology did it too 22:38 telek Is there a link? 22:38 q66 http://i.imgur.com/jsozP.jpg here it is 22:38 KikaRz lol 22:38 q66 found it 22:38 telek Rofl. 22:38 KikaRz lol 22:38 KikaRz let me open 22:38 KikaRz whats that? 22:38 Muadtralk http://blog.movingblocks.net/blockmania/ 22:38 moltenbot Muadtralk's link: Terasology | Moving Blocks! 22:38 KikaRz companion cube? 22:38 telek q66's idea would certainly get us 4channer mindshare :D 22:39 KikaRz bad of linux: No Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V. 22:40 q66 this was back with my freebsd desktop :< 22:40 q66 i miss it 22:40 telek kikarz: What're you talking about? 22:40 KikaRz q66, so your last time that you've played minetest 22:40 KikaRz was in 0.4.1 version 22:40 telek We've got both CTRL-C CTRL-V and mouse-left select + middle button paste 22:40 KikaRz or minus 22:40 KikaRz thats too much work 22:40 q66 KikaRz, yeah this was sort of the last time 22:41 q66 so i actually had 0.4-dev :P 22:41 q66 but i think this was still pre-lua 22:41 q66 or right after lua introduction 22:41 telek Right after. 22:41 telek 0.3.1 was the last pre-lua? 22:41 telek Or was that the FIRST lua? 22:41 q66 no, 0.4 was lua 22:41 q66 i'm gonna fetch latest minetest git now 22:41 KikaRz boys and girls, ladies and gentlemans. 22:41 KikaRz http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhSVxhRp6BsbK1Wt7UHXsIxxjW77J9liNL4c1ZgCE5Wqi25GOQDg 22:42 KikaRz thats the companion cube 22:42 mauvebic can one copy a world and rename it? 22:42 KikaRz yes. 22:42 mauvebic when i tried it wouldnt launch :S 22:42 KikaRz ... renamed the sql? 22:42 mauvebic crap 22:42 mauvebic lol thanks 22:42 KikaRz xd 22:42 KikaRz you must rename folder and the sql 22:42 mauvebic rename the file or the db? 22:42 KikaRz both 22:43 telek I did not know that. 22:43 KikaRz db and folder 22:43 KikaRz telek, 22:43 KikaRz you're too noob for that knowledge. 22:43 KikaRz no, you arent 22:43 mauvebic how do you change the db name w/o using something like sql explorer? 22:43 KikaRz People that were waiting for companion cube... 22:44 KikaRz look at my picture at minetest 22:44 KikaRz http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/Companion_Cube.jpg 22:44 KikaRz XD. Notenoughnerds is my new site. 22:44 KikaRz kidding. 22:44 KikaRz love that site 22:45 KikaRz Best pic of the site. 22:45 KikaRz http://www.notenoughnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_lkyz6ctVW11qzylvvo1_500.gif 22:45 KikaRz falling forever 22:45 telek Speaking of. 22:45 telek One of the cooler ideas I had. Make falling off a world result in a random connect to another world included in a server worldlist :D 22:46 telek So if you walk/dig too far you get dumped into a brand new world, with only your current inventory to subsist you. 22:46 Uberi awesome 22:47 KikaRz guys 22:47 KikaRz gotta go 22:47 KikaRz byee... 22:47 telek Aww 22:47 KikaRz Minetest, never change into the inventory question 22:47 * telek waves! 22:47 KikaRz IN DEATH : ALL OF OUR THINGS DONT DISAPPEAR 22:48 KikaRz just in Hardcore. 22:48 KikaRz kisses 22:48 telek In death we get names. Her name was Kikarz *Expletive*. 22:48 KikaRz bye my son 22:48 KikaRz :P 22:48 KikaRz XD 22:48 KikaRz and your were: 22:48 KikaRz telekEgg. 22:48 KikaRz xd 22:48 * telek waves. 22:57 leo_rockway telek: I thought of that idea of portals to other servers. 22:57 leo_rockway the portal would have to delete the unknown items or something 22:57 leo_rockway it would be pretty awesome to have something like that. 23:02 Uberi interworld trading! 23:02 * marktraceur generates a world that is solid mese 23:02 marktraceur Muahaha, we'll be rich 23:03 leo_rockway it would be cool if some servers lacked a resource 23:03 leo_rockway and were forced to do business with another server 23:03 leo_rockway there's a thing a friend of mine plays called Civcraft 23:04 leo_rockway apparently they have cities all over the place (this is minecraft) 23:04 leo_rockway and people trade and build for their city 23:06 mauvebic the economy mod could handle that 23:08 jordan4ibanez I'm making music for minetest, i hope it gets added 23:08 NekoGloop how the hell long have you been doing that, and it hasnt been addeD? 23:09 Uberi it's in the ambience mod now 23:10 jordan4ibanez Real music meant specifically for this game 23:10 cy1 a digital signature mod would be ballin... 23:10 Uberi what functionality would that provide, cy1? 23:11 cy1 Uberi: you could issue coins based on your signature, and people could trade 'em. 23:12 cy1 you could even do p2p stuff, like trading special coin textures or whatever. 23:12 Uberi or use bitcoins and trade with real currency! :D 23:13 cy1 meh, bitcoins 23:14 cy1 Uberi: with digital signatures nobody can impersonate anybody else, so you can build whitelists for people you trust to do stuff to your client/server/etc 23:14 Uberi well yes, but the current user/pass system is quite usable now as well 23:15 Uberi plus you don't need to add the openssl libs or whichever you want to use 23:16 leo_rockway I havent tried the economy mod. 23:16 leo_rockway not enough people on the server 23:20 telek In addition to wasting cpu/gpu cycles and bandwidth, the bitcoin blockchain is currently up to 5.5 gigs of disk space. 23:20 Uberi :O 23:20 telek Anybody want to do calculations on how much above energy cost you need to be mining in bitcoins to cover the cost of the disk space wasted to verify your account? 23:20 telek Took me like a week to get it fully updated BTW 23:21 NekoGloop Pfft. 23:21 NekoGloop Took this long to be banned in #minecraft. 23:21 NekoGloop I must be getting rusty. 23:21 cy1 NekoGloop: did you call someone a retard? :o 23:21 telek Or enough people know how to use /ignore :) 23:21 NekoGloop cy1: no, insulted linux 23:21 cy1 omg 23:21 cy1 wait 23:21 Uberi hahaha 23:21 NekoGloop Amazingly there's people on #minecraft who use linux 23:21 cy1 minecraft isn't... available for linux... 23:22 Uberi uh, yes, it is 23:22 cy1 oh wait yes it is 23:22 NekoGloop My hope in Minecraft is gone. 23:22 cy1 sorry I'm dumb 23:22 cy1 one could even say retarded 23:22 cy1 but then you would be banned 23:22 cy1 so don't 23:23 cy1 NekoGloop: minecraft is just minetest with particles :p 23:23 NekoGloop cy1: nope 23:23 cy1 YES 23:23 cy1 ok 23:24 NekoGloop Minecraft is minetest with mobs, particles, better mods, and not running from a fndsjaogbfadjs console. 23:24 cy1 uh, anyway I value open source efforts far more than the most apparantly cool closed source crap. 23:24 NekoGloop cy1: technically it isnt closed source 23:24 cy1 ugh, mobs... 23:24 NekoGloop Mojang doesnt give half a fuck if you decompile it 23:24 cy1 NekoGloop: wat 23:24 cy1 oh 23:24 cy1 well one cannot recompile decompiled java 23:24 NekoGloop yes they can 23:25 cy1 how? 23:25 NakedFury particles, better lightning, something to survive from, and a bunch of other stuff 23:25 NekoGloop There's plenty of tools for recompiling 23:25 cy1 it's like "derp this is human assembler rendered for humans in the function body" 23:25 NekoGloop How do you think people make mods for it? 23:25 cy1 magic! 23:26 iqualfragile cy1: minetest has particles 23:26 cy1 figured they were buddies with Notch or something 23:27 Uberi I for one would love to see something to survive from in MT 23:27 NekoGloop vombies just dont cut it 23:27 NekoGloop after all, how hard is it to survive from an immobile thingymabob 23:27 Uberi plus I was hitting a vombie thei other day, I think it was immortal or something 23:27 cy1 mobs aren't that great... what minetest really really really needs though, is animated nodes. 23:27 Uberi it has that, cy1 23:28 iqualfragile the only _real_ advantage minecraft has over minetest is that there are people desining the game 23:28 Uberi see animated lava.water 23:28 Uberi the vombie is still outside my house :/ 23:28 cy1 Uberi: those aren't animated. Just the textures are.. 23:28 NekoGloop he means like enchantment tables 23:28 Uberi ah, I see 23:28 Uberi well entities can be animated so hopefully nodes are not too far off 23:28 iqualfragile we can have animated nodes 23:29 cy1 you can see in minecraft the water smoothly changes shapes client-side, instead of disappearing as half pouring and reappearing as full pouring as in minetest. 23:29 NekoGloop you kidding... 23:29 Uberi in MT most of the action is server side 23:29 cy1 no? I only can see minecraft on the Youtubes so maybe I'm missing something... 23:29 NekoGloop notch or jeb dont talk with the community, they talk AT it 23:30 NekoGloop see: twitter 23:30 cy1 uh, 'k 23:30 cy1 and yet 23:30 cy1 notch and jeb are the ones making all the money off of minecraft 23:30 iqualfragile afaik the minetest-water has ~12 diferent levels 23:30 NekoGloop dont forget Dinnerbone 23:30 iqualfragile so it might look smooth 23:30 NakedFury minecraft water is better 23:30 NekoGloop he gets money too 23:30 Uberi and all the employees 23:30 cy1 iqualfragile: yeah it's not too bad... 23:30 NekoGloop nah 23:30 Uberi they have salaries, I presume 23:30 NekoGloop just those three 23:31 Uberi unless they're working for the free soda in the cafeteria 23:31 NekoGloop prolly 23:31 cy1 minetest has a protocol message to remove blocks, and to add blocks, but no message to move blocks. so the only way to "animate" a block is to remove it from one place, and add it to another. 23:32 cy1 so even if clients could animate the node moving from point A to point B, the server couldn't tell them when to do it. 23:32 cy1 but it's just a lot of work, especially since minetest groups nodes into 8x8x8 blocks so you can't update just one node instead a whole block, or something. 23:32 NekoGloop see: sand 23:33 NekoGloop and there's a function called nodeupdate(pos) 23:33 Octupus hola 23:33 cy1 NekoGloop: sand logic is like: remove the sand node, create a clientCAO (not a node) that falls, then remove it, then add a sand node where it fell. 23:34 NekoGloop minecraft sand is an entity in a block 23:34 Uberi yes the __builtin:falling_node thing is an entity 23:34 cy1 it should just be animate the sand node to fall down. 23:34 cy1 not destroy the node, create an intangible cubical object that can't be placed on a map or collide with anything, etc... 23:34 babyface1031 hi Octupus 23:35 NekoGloop cy1: the minecraft falling sand isnt breakable 23:35 Octupus hi babyface1031 23:35 babyface1031 OldCoder: i dont know if you saw but the industry mod isnt on the server yet 23:35 cy1 NekoGloop: really? hm... 23:35 NekoGloop its the same logic, just done faster 23:35 cy1 well, the logic works great for sand, but not so much for vombies. 23:35 Octupus babyface1031,patience young grasshopper 23:36 cy1 or pigs 23:36 cy1 I saw a node based pig mob once. 23:36 cy1 couldn't move, so it just had to destroy itself and receate itself elsewhere. 23:36 babyface1031 i am patience i was asking if it could be added and he thought it already was so i was informing him 23:37 cy1 So you'd kill the pig mob, after it had started removing itself, then it'd just appear elsewhere and you get no meat :c 23:37 NekoGloop patience, young minetestian 23:37 Uberi cy1: the mobs mod uses moving entities quite fine 23:37 cy1 babyface1031: industry mod is marktraceur's project, so it's most likely on his server. 23:38 NekoGloop meow 23:38 cy1 Uberi: you can walk through vombies. They can overlap. They flicker. They don't stop taking resources with distance. :/ 23:38 cy1 they don't actually exist on the map, because they're not nodes. server refers to them by a list of integers totally separate from any positional thingy. 23:39 Uberi cy1: that's a problem with entities, no? they should be improved rather than making nodes soemthing they are not 23:39 Uberi entities are meant for moving things 23:39 Uberi and nodes for static things in the world 23:39 Uberi we should have entity collision, is what I'm saying 23:39 cy1 hmm... 23:39 Uberi that would address your concerns quite well, I think 23:40 cy1 I suppose you're right. But what about the distance thing? 23:40 Octupus babyface1031,we got the needed person on the red team everything spot is fulled up now 23:40 babyface1031 cool 23:40 cy1 ABMs stop Activating when further away, but CAOs stick around. Bogs down the client like crazy and the server goes nuts with 10000 vombies on the map. 23:40 Uberi cy1: distance thing? 23:41 Uberi caos are not active when the chunk they're in is unloaded 23:41 cy1 oh yeah 23:41 Uberi in fact they get serialized, and you can optionally remove them at this point 23:41 cy1 that other problem 23:41 cy1 chunks are never unloaded :l 23:41 Uberi hey mauvebic 23:41 cy1 well maybe it's just my client, eh. 23:41 Uberi cy1: they should be... 23:42 leo_rockway cy1: is that why mobs stop responding and walk idly after a while? 23:42 cy1 wish there was a "unload this block" command. 23:42 Uberi leo_rockway: that is possibly lag 23:42 leo_rockway Uberi: locally 23:42 OldCoder Hi 23:42 Uberi cy1: I'd like a "load this chunk" command more, personally :) 23:42 OldCoder babyface1031, I responded 23:42 Uberi leo_rockway: in that case it beats me 23:42 cy1 leo_rockway: I put a thing in my server that stops caring about distant mobs once. Didn't work so well though, because it's the server that tells them to obey gravity <3 23:43 babyface1031 sorry must of been when i timed out and couldnt see anyone talking including me 23:43 cy1 Uberi: pff people would spam that like it were an elevator button 23:43 OldCoder He has one set of mods I'd like to try after I finish 0.4.4 upgrade. Not sure if that is the same set. 23:43 Uberi cy1: nah I mean as part of the modding API 23:43 NekoGloop World Anchors! 23:43 Uberi minetest.env:load_chunk() 23:43 cy1 hm, so a mod command to send a block to the client... 23:44 Uberi NekoGloop: would do wonders for my bigger mesecons stuff 23:44 cy1 Uberi: they're called blocks btw. MapBlock 23:44 jordan4ibanez Where is world anchors 23:44 cy1 maybe better to call them chunks... 23:44 Uberi really? all this time I've been calling them chunks 23:44 jordan4ibanez WHO SAID WORLD ANCHORS 23:44 Uberi YOU DID 23:44 NekoGloop WORLD ANCHORS 23:44 jordan4ibanez Who made them? 23:44 Uberi nobody, yet 23:44 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: Railcraft 23:44 NekoGloop :P 23:44 babyface1031 ok 23:44 cy1 Uberi: it is pretty silly, since nodes are (usually) block shaped. but blocks are 8x8 node collections plus metaetc plus objects. better to call blocks chunks then. 23:45 Uberi which reminds me, I should poke around the code and see how hard that would be to add 23:49 NekoGloop ... as conversation abruptly ends... 23:49 cy1 brb hackin 23:52 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzJ30XoDvQ 23:52 moltenbot harrison's link: Mule Eternal - YouTube 23:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFQRgmakk 23:52 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: ?rockleetist? Rotten Girl, Grotesque Romance (English) - YouTube 23:55 cy1 Uberi: in src/server.cpp there's a Server::SendBlocks function that sends the blocks aka chunks, calls Server::SendBlockNoLock repeatedly, which uses the con::Connection (src/connection.cpp) to send the data down to the client. 23:55 cy1 via the UDP socket 23:56 cy1 hope that helps 23:56 Uberi neat, thanks 23:57 cy1 Uberi: there's also a separate message TOCLIENT_ADDNODE that can send individual nodes Server::sendAddNode dispatches it similarly. 23:57 Uberi hmm, but block loading is done server side, no? 23:57 jordan4ibanez yea 23:58 cy1 The admin griefing known as "anticheat" uses that sendAddNode thing to send 'em one at a time, instead of the whole block/chunk. 23:58 cy1 so, you should be able to send both nodes and blocks whenever you want, just by exposing those to the lua API in scriptapi.cpp! 23:59 Uberi cy1: fascinating, do you have a link to that? 23:59 cy1 to the minetest source...? 23:59 Uberi the anticheat thing, I mean