| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
VanessaE |
yeah, they are. |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
when it works right, it'll get rid of anything that moves, pretty much :-) |
| 00:01 |
VanessaE |
so it's the smart bomb of Minetest :D |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
ouch. |
| 00:02 |
VanessaE |
wonder what he did :-) |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
"Smart Bomb" LOL |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
gonna try it later. I believe your Flowers are nodes right? |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 00:03 |
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| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
not that I'm too happy with the CPU usage of the flowers mod (I need some feedback on that) |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
but it'll survive a /clearobjects |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
I like the flowers, but yes. Could make them appear less often when not from mapgen |
| 00:05 |
kaeza |
do you use abm? |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
they use an ABM because I want them to re-grow over time. |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how to link agains the map generator, and besides, the original Ironzorg flowers did the same. |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
I just improved on it :-0 |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:06 |
kaeza |
I want to make a suggestion. Maybe make the flowers need sunlight to grow? |
| 00:06 |
kaeza |
Is it possible? |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
I did however, tone down the CPU usage in the last release, stopped making them spawn on dirt (but rather, only on grass). |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
it is possible, yes. the seaweed needs a certain level of sunlight to grow, for example. |
| 00:07 |
jin_xi |
there are no moon phases in mt, right? |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
of course, there's no moon at all either, just a big, white square :-) |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
(I really REALLY wish someone would implement texturable sun and moon!) |
| 00:13 |
T_A_N_K |
I can |
| 00:13 |
T_A_N_K |
It's easy |
| 00:13 |
kaeza |
About the seaweed, I didn't notice that. But I don't like this so much: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/flowers.jpg |
| 00:13 |
T_A_N_K |
Just photoshop the sun into the image |
| 00:13 |
VanessaE |
T_A_N_K: um...what image? |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
the sun/moon are generated algorithmically |
| 00:14 |
T_A_N_K |
It was a joke god flapchack damnit |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: good point. I'll add something in the next release, but how much light should they need? |
| 00:16 |
kaeza |
Hmmm... don't know how MT finds the light level of a node |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
minetest.env:get_node_light(pos, nil) |
| 00:17 |
T_A_N_K |
someone please come help me test this server |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
wait a sec, the flowers already require some light to spawn |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
namely light > 4. |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
shall I raise it? |
| 00:18 |
kaeza |
What's the level of direct sunlight? |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
14. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
that's the max. |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
what's the level at say 5:30am? |
| 00:18 |
kaeza |
maybe half that one? |
| 00:18 |
* VanessaE |
checkds |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
checks* |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
looks like 12. Three steps below max anyway |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
so how about light > 10 ? |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
that seems good |
| 00:20 |
VanessaE |
that'll be close to 5:00am game time |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
one sec, testing my change. |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
yup, right at about 5am or 7pm. |
| 00:22 |
kaeza |
could you post update here? |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
link I mean |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
updated. |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
pull it from my main repo. |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
shit, forums are down. |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/VanessaE/flowers |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
duh |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
I forgot :) |
| 00:23 |
kaeza |
J/K :P |
| 00:24 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 00:24 |
kaeza |
OK now DL'ing |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
can I get you to do me a favor? |
| 00:26 |
kaeza |
yeah sure. what do you need? |
| 00:27 |
VanessaE |
I could use some feedback on how that mod affects the average player's install. Does it cause a lot of lag? a little? none? Lots of CPU time? Does it spawn dogs and cats? Do they live together in a state of mass hysteria? ;) |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
my machine may not be state-of-the-art, but it's a fast sucker, too much so for me to be able to tell if a more average machine does okay with it. |
| 00:29 |
OldCoder |
For world 30004 people: I am *still* working on that world |
| 00:30 |
T_A_N_K |
Vanessae, make your flowers spawn on chunk generate, and make flower seeds |
| 00:30 |
kaeza |
I have a 3.1 GHz Intel Dual Core w/ 4GB of RAM. But i'll give it a try. |
| 00:30 |
kaeza |
now testing |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
T_A_N_K: no way. Do not want. |
| 00:31 |
T_A_N_K |
Then have fun with your abms lagging servers lol |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
they should grow wild, with the ABM the way they do now. |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
ABMs only lag servers if they're code-heavy |
| 00:32 |
T_A_N_K |
Hence, flowers |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you use flowers on some of your servers. How does it behave there? |
| 00:34 |
T_A_N_K |
If you have a block of grass (which is everywhere) everytime it loads and checks it lags just make it load on chunk, i mean, i already wrote the code for you, so stop being a republican and try it lol |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I haven't noticed huge CPU spikes or crashes |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
loading via mapgen still means it has to hit every node in the chunk for every chunk generated, it also means the flowers won't re-grow over time. |
| 00:35 |
OldCoder |
That are attributed to flowers |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: ok |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
| 00:35 |
kaeza |
neither do I |
| 00:35 |
T_A_N_K |
Flowers have seeds, your mod does not, so even if you are going for realism, without seeds, flowers are null |
| 00:35 |
kaeza |
It runs as always |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
BTW your High Res texture packs are awesome! |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: thanks :-) |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
T_A_N_K: quit bitching about seeds |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
Oh, that reminds me: even my piddly little Mobility Radeon 9600 on my laptop can handle 64px ;) |
| 00:37 |
T_A_N_K |
I'm not motherfucker, I'm trying to make a mod better |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
I don't dare hit it with the 512px size though, it'll explode :D |
| 00:37 |
T_A_N_K |
512x runs quite nicely |
| 00:37 |
kaeza |
I'm currently using 128px on an Intel Series 4 (something 4000 I think) |
| 00:38 |
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| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
T_A_N_K: now if I could just make a realistic, SHARP 16px variant and get it pushed to master. :-) |
| 00:39 |
kaeza |
On that topic, some suggestions: Add PilzAdam's farming and farming_plus, plus the streets mod. |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I need textures for those, and I've been too lazy :D |
| 00:39 |
T_A_N_K |
Vaneesae i kinda give up on talking to you lol |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
I still haven't updated it for the latest Home Decor |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
T_A_N_K: after all this time, surely you know how opinionated I am :D |
| 00:40 |
T_A_N_K |
minetest.net is always down, there are spammers, noobs, the community doesn't get along with eachother, idk why i play minecraft or minetest |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
T_A_N_K: If we wanted a realistic game, we wouldn't play any games after all. |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
oh gone :( |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
we'd go out in the world with a shovel and pick and start digging up the ground :-) |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
wonder how deep I have to go to find Mese though....... |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 00:41 |
kaeza |
LOL Let's cut down the tree on my backyard with my bare hands :) |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 00:43 |
kaeza |
the flowers mod runs as fast as always. Maybe you could add more flowers ;) |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
I might consider it :-() |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 00:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, we still look forward to seeing the new house as a schem; perhaps in one of my worlds |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
I already added geraniums and seaweed to the original set |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
Maybe sunflower |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: coming soon |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
looks pretty |
| 00:44 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Turn on Full Range before copy |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: sda97's more flowers mod has those. |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: of course. |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
oh didn't know about that one |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
silly me |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: but I consider that mod to be too much duplication of effort. |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
Anyone has DL link for testing? |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
not handy, sorry |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
oh I see |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: oh I see |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
the only thing that bugs me about his is that he took the concept of my/ironzorg's mod and extended it *after* I released my updated one, duplicating most of the existing flowers AND naming it the same initially. |
| 00:46 |
kaeza |
I've been in the forums not for a long time, but I see there is a massive duplication of effort |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
instead of just making a mod - with my code if he wanted to - that *only* had new stuff. |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
I mean, we have 213618763 mods that add mobs (of which none works flawlessly). If all those coders got in a concentrated effort together, maybe we could get a good one |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
but that's OPEN source I guess |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
the closest to "flawless" that I've seen is Jeija's "slimes" mod. |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
of course I'm a little biased, I made the textures for it :D |
| 00:49 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 00:50 |
kaeza |
I tried MOBF but lags as hell (NOTE TO SELF: does hell lag?). Also tried Simple Mobs but didn't work. Gotta try the slimes :) |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
it's my understanding that hell lags quite severely, or at least the Nether mod does :D |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
(stole that from NekoGloop) |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
Taoki|away: wait. |
| 00:51 |
Taoki|away |
? |
| 00:51 |
Taoki|away |
It's late, need to go in a minute |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
Taoki|away: how's 3d players coming along? |
| 00:52 |
Taoki|away |
Waiting for RBA's lua keys patch to get merget to master, then I am continuing |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:52 |
Taoki|away |
**merged |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
good night then :-) |
| 00:52 |
Taoki|away |
yeah :) |
| 00:52 |
Taoki|away |
night |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
I've been just thinking... are you a pro or you do it for a hobby? Because your textures look really good, and as you said in the HD tex pack, it was made by you from your and your husband's photographies. |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
purely a hobby. |
| 00:56 |
kaeza |
:O |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
some of it came from my photography, some from Abe's, some was rendered, but most came from Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, and a couple other free sites. |
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| 00:57 |
kaeza |
That makes me feel bad. I'm sort of in the business and I only made this crappy image: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest-freeman.png |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
if you strip out the repeat-but-recolored stuff (like all but one of the wool, cotton, bricks, etc textures), it's probably about 1/3 my/abe's work. |
| 00:58 |
jin_xi |
is that a lambda on his chest? |
| 00:58 |
kaeza |
yeah... supposed to be |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:58 |
jin_xi |
and you wield a parenthese? |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
that's clearly a slash. :-) |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
Nah, it's a sheared block meant to represent the trademark "Crowbar" |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
does it look so bad? |
| 00:59 |
kaeza |
:( |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
it needs work, but you'll get there. |
| 01:03 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 01:03 |
kaeza |
I have some other project going on, but it's currently on hold. What do you think of these images? done by me also: http://cosmorpg.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=chars |
| 01:07 |
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| 01:09 |
Doc22 |
oldcoder are you too busy to play |
| 01:10 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
I am repairing 30004 |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
All day actually |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
Not personally |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
But trying different things |
| 01:11 |
OldCoder |
Maybe in an hour |
| 01:11 |
kaeza |
buh MT forums still down :( |
| 01:12 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 01:28 |
kaeza |
LOL seems I'm not the only one that thinks this way: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/507c7f2d2a291.jpeg |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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| 01:38 |
Dogzilla131 |
is the forum down |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
bbiab |
| 01:42 |
kaeza |
OK |
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NakedFury |
hello |
| 02:00 |
M13 |
hello |
| 02:00 |
M13 |
I like puppy linux |
| 02:04 |
* marktraceur |
greets the channel a bit more formally |
| 02:04 |
marktraceur |
I'm actually trying this: http://www.indiegogo.com/free-game-modding |
| 02:05 |
marktraceur |
Crowd-funding for part-time development of Minetest mods, priorities voted on by contributors, rewards for various contributions (stickers, posters, t-shirts) |
| 02:06 |
marktraceur |
I welcome support, but perhaps more importantly, I welcome criticism. If you think something doesn't seem right, tell me! |
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| 02:27 |
babyface1031 |
hi everyone |
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| 02:37 |
babyface1031 |
hi everyone how is everyone |
| 02:37 |
dzho |
marktraceur: a bit of a peeve I inherited from a pedant friend: something is either unique, or it is not unique. There are not degrees of uniqueness such that something can be very unique. |
| 02:39 |
dzho |
so, that's offered in the spirit of feedback. I recognize that "very unique" has some currency, so wouldn't be put off by your just ignoring me on this point. |
| 02:50 |
Doc22 |
babyface farming by pilzadam is wtfpl right |
| 02:50 |
Doc22 |
or whoever can answer that question |
| 02:50 |
Doc22 |
the forums are down... |
| 02:53 |
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| 02:53 |
Doc22 |
'ello |
| 02:53 |
Kacey |
hello all |
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babyface1031 |
hi Doc22 |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
hi again guys |
| 02:57 |
babyface1031 |
i can look |
| 02:57 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hi |
| 02:57 |
babyface1031 |
hi @OldCoder |
| 02:58 |
Doc22 |
hey |
| 02:59 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Doc22 I may need to let something I'm doing with 30004 run overnight |
| 03:00 |
babyface1031 |
ok thats fine :) |
| 03:00 |
babyface1031 |
i have had a rough night so |
| 03:00 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:00 |
OldCoder |
How so? |
| 03:00 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 03:00 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 03:00 |
Doc22 |
how |
| 03:00 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, How is it going? |
| 03:00 |
Doc22 |
probs with the kids? |
| 03:01 |
babyface1031 |
yes is was my son he is sick |
| 03:01 |
Doc22 |
oh yeah you said that last night to me |
| 03:02 |
Doc22 |
i hope he gets better |
| 03:02 |
babyface1031 |
ty i hope too |
| 03:03 |
babyface1031 |
and i looked Doc22 the farming by pilzadam is a wtfpl |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 03:03 |
Doc22 |
thanks |
| 03:04 |
babyface1031 |
np |
| 03:05 |
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| 03:05 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 03:05 |
Doc22 |
hello |
| 03:06 |
babyface1031 |
hi Kacey |
| 03:06 |
Kacey |
my mod is coming alonng nicely |
| 03:09 |
Doc22 |
nice |
| 03:10 |
NakedFury |
I know the perfect add on for technic mod: a mole machine. place it looking todars a block, right click to bring up its menu, tell it how many blocks to eat and click start |
| 03:10 |
Kacey |
well program it |
| 03:11 |
Doc22 |
that would be cool |
| 03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
seen something like this |
| 03:11 |
Doc22 |
btw nakedfury would you add support for my campfire mod to your texture pack |
| 03:11 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Nevermind multiple suns/moons :D And maybe once a year/decade where the moon comes too close to the planet and you can fly up and land on it and mine it for moon-cheese :) |
| 03:11 |
Doc22 |
yay |
| 03:11 |
Doc22 |
i like cheese |
| 03:11 |
Kacey |
i have always wanted to go to the moon |
| 03:11 |
RealBadAngel |
with simple code, dig x digs x nodes, turn left or right |
| 03:12 |
RealBadAngel |
move x nodes |
| 03:12 |
babyface1031 |
that sounds neat have it eat and trash some items but other items keep |
| 03:12 |
Doc22 |
yeha |
| 03:12 |
Doc22 |
you could make an area where you tell it what to trash |
| 03:12 |
Doc22 |
and everything else is kept |
| 03:13 |
Kacey |
what is code for any tool? |
| 03:13 |
RealBadAngel |
could be fun with taoki 3d, make it on wheels |
| 03:13 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Even with other stuff running a sub 2ghz Core2 chip is fast enough to run a decently sized minetest world. |
| 03:13 |
Doc22 |
yeah but dont make it look stupid lol |
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| 03:14 |
Kacey |
rba do you know because you made the tool workshop |
| 03:14 |
Doc22 |
so far you have made cool stuff... dont ruin that record |
| 03:14 |
mayly |
hoi, has anyone an idea how to change the sky color? |
| 03:15 |
Kacey |
easy |
| 03:15 |
RealBadAngel |
what about tool workshop? |
| 03:16 |
Doc22 |
that looks cool |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
what did you put in the code for any tool? |
| 03:17 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/tool_workshop.lua#L54 |
| 03:18 |
Kacey |
i think i get it |
| 03:18 |
Kacey |
got* |
| 03:20 |
Doc22 |
got to go |
| 03:23 |
Kacey |
ok how does toolrepair type of craffting work? |
| 03:24 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont cheack it |
| 03:24 |
RealBadAngel |
just the "wear" |
| 03:24 |
Kacey |
but i mean there is a crafting recipe for this and i cannot figure it out |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
got it |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
forgot a comma |
| 03:27 |
marktraceur |
dzho: Thanks, you're right, I changed the word :) |
| 03:28 |
Kacey |
ok now what is the code for anytool |
| 03:30 |
Kacey |
rba i do not see the code for anytool in the code |
| 03:33 |
Kacey |
wouldnt it just be any:tool? |
| 03:34 |
babyface1031 |
well i am getting off for the night be on tomorrow when i can |
| 03:35 |
Kacey |
k |
| 03:35 |
Kacey |
I NEED SOME HELP!!!!! |
| 03:35 |
RealBadAngel |
if it has "wear" its a tool |
| 03:36 |
Kacey |
what do i put in the code |
| 03:36 |
Kacey |
it is just a crafting recipe |
| 03:37 |
RealBadAngel |
what kind of recipe? |
| 03:38 |
Kacey |
in the crafting grid |
| 03:38 |
Kacey |
or do i have to make a new tab |
| 03:38 |
RealBadAngel |
what do you want to get? |
| 03:38 |
* telek1 |
hands Kacey a card for a psychiatrist. |
| 03:39 |
* Kacey |
no longer needs a psychiatrist but a hostage negotiator |
| 03:39 |
Kacey |
to sharpen (repair) tools with an ingot of the sharpening ore |
| 03:41 |
kaeza |
Guys, tell me what do you think about this one: https://sites.google.com/site/lkaezadl3/minetest-city |
| 03:42 |
Kacey |
i like that city |
| 03:44 |
kaeza |
In the city, everything was done by hand. But then the worldedit nation attacked!! |
| 03:44 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 03:44 |
Kacey |
do you have hamachi? |
| 03:45 |
kaeza |
what is that |
| 03:45 |
kaeza |
? |
| 03:45 |
Kacey |
so that i may build in your city |
| 03:47 |
kaeza |
oh not currently. The problem is my broadband plan. I have a monthly bandwidth of 4GB (crap!), so I can't currently provide a public server, sorry :( That would be cool though. And thanks for trying to join :) |
| 03:48 |
Kacey |
hamachi doesnt make it a public server |
| 03:48 |
telek1 |
kaeza: No kidding. |
| 03:48 |
Kacey |
more of a private server |
| 03:49 |
telek1 |
I've got a nice fiber setup, but it's a 40 gig cap, and the 'unlimited' commercial version is only 1 megabit upstream, which calculated out as only 40 gigs a month anyhow :D |
| 03:49 |
kaeza |
being public or private doesn't actually matter much. The problem is how much bandwidth does MT consume? |
| 03:49 |
Kacey |
idk |
| 03:49 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Quite a lot if the clients aren't caching everything. |
| 03:49 |
Kacey |
OldCoder would know |
| 03:50 |
telek1 |
What's an average chunk size? |
| 03:50 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 03:50 |
telek1 |
Because ATM my full map, which is maybe 1000ish cells cubed (partial, not completely filled) is like a few hundred megs. |
| 03:51 |
Kacey |
oldcoder i am stuck |
| 03:51 |
telek1 |
Even assuming a player only hits a few dozen to hundred of those a session, depending on how they reload that could add up fast. |
| 03:51 |
OldCoder |
Where? |
| 03:51 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, ^ |
| 03:51 |
Kacey |
with my newest mod |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
ok, back. |
| 03:52 |
Kacey |
wb |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
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| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
telek1: I dunno, that might be slightly overkill :D |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
(re: multiple suns/moons) |
| 03:52 |
kaeza__ |
being public or private doesn't actually matter much. The problem is how much bandwidth does MT consume? |
| 03:53 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Yeah, but it'd allow a lot more variety :) |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: a few 10's of kB/sec at most. |
| 03:54 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Per player? |
| 03:55 |
Kacey |
ooh i have a creative server anyone want to join? |
| 03:55 |
kaeza |
:( |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
telek1: well, as measured from the client end, I'm getting a max of ~11kB/sec letting the map around me load up on redcrab's server |
| 03:56 |
* telek1 |
nods. |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
seems to float around 4 kB/sec average at idle |
| 03:56 |
telek1 |
Almost low enough to play over dialup. |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
less now, under 2kB/sec |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
run to a new area, bandwidth raises to about 20 kB/sec |
| 03:57 |
kaeza |
Is that so? It may be even lower than playing let's say Counter-Strike. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
oh, brief spike at 60 there. |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
mostly not even enough to register on my bandwidth meter |
| 03:57 |
kaeza |
I'm missing a lot of fun :( |
| 03:58 |
telek1 |
Problem is while it may seem small on the client end, you add up 10-20 players and it's enough to go over your cap. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
true that |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
hm someone over north of the spawn has been doing some serious logging and not replanting >:-( |
| 03:59 |
telek1 |
Bummer. |
| 03:59 |
telek1 |
Anybody done work on 'vehicle blocking' |
| 03:59 |
kaeza |
60KB is actually impressive considering the lot of data you have to transfer (nodes, ents, etc). |
| 03:59 |
telek1 |
IE for building things larger than a ship and having the blocks stay together? |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: most of the bulk of that kinda of data is transferred at login time actuallty |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
-y |
| 04:00 |
kaeza |
telek1: also looking for that. Did you see the subway on my city? |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
-t+y |
| 04:00 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Depends on how much metadata is sent to the client, but yeah. |
| 04:00 |
Kacey |
67.162.156.91 port 30000 if you want to join |
| 04:00 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Nope, only been on one public server. Otherwise I was mostly hanging out on my own. |
| 04:01 |
* telek1 |
may pop on in a bit, has a lot of stuff going on in other windows ATM. |
| 04:01 |
kaeza |
It's not actually a server. Look at https://sites.google.com/site/lkaezadl3/minetest-city |
| 04:02 |
Kacey |
alright kaeza do you want to build a city with me? |
| 04:02 |
NakedFury |
my 151 long 32 high oval shaped tunnel entrance to the future underground kingdom is done |
| 04:03 |
Kacey |
nothing is more fun than setting a whole forest on fire |
| 04:03 |
telek1 |
kaeza: That's a mod idea. |
| 04:03 |
kaeza |
Kacey: Gonna try for a couple of minutes. To see how it works (on my end; my wireless modem can download almost a bit per hour :P) |
| 04:03 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 04:03 |
NakedFury |
151 long, 32 high, 177 wide |
| 04:04 |
telek1 |
Generate maps with old <blah>city 2k style maps (ie macro-sized features compared to the current mapgen) then have a ton of predeveloped randomized buildings that can be placed on them from a 'gods eye' view. |
| 04:05 |
kaeza |
now connecting... |
| 04:05 |
Kacey |
k |
| 04:06 |
Kacey |
you are on |
| 04:06 |
kaeza |
almost done :) |
| 04:06 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 04:06 |
NakedFury |
how many blocks fit in a 100 high 1000 wide/long circle? |
| 04:07 |
telek1 |
Nakedfury: Look up an oblong sphere formula? |
| 04:07 |
telek1 |
Or maybe 'egg'? |
| 04:08 |
NakedFury |
I made the circle using windows paint so I have the shape ready |
| 04:08 |
NakedFury |
mining it from rock is gonna be a pain |
| 04:08 |
telek1 |
Less than 100 million? |
| 04:09 |
NakedFury |
well not all parts will be 100 high |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: if hollow, I'd say something on the order of 50,000 or so. |
| 04:09 |
NakedFury |
im gonna make it in steps. first floor about 30 or so high, then 20 under next floor, then less and less until 8 high last floor |
| 04:10 |
NakedFury |
then im gonna think of a cool name for such hard work |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
calculate 50 time the circumference of that circle, add 10%, should get you close/. |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
if solid, calculate the volume of a sphere (pi * radius cubed), divide by 2. |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
should get you reasonably close anyway. |
| 04:10 |
NakedFury |
thats incredibly pain indusing VanessaaE |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
well lesse here.. |
| 04:11 |
NakedFury |
I will just say it took 30 millions tons of cubes to hollow it |
| 04:11 |
NakedFury |
people will believe it |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
pi * diameter * 50 = 3.1415 * 1000 * 50 = 157075 |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
so maybe half that amount in practice. |
| 04:12 |
NakedFury |
pi * 1000 * 50 =? |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
pi * radius³ = 3.1415 * 50³ = 3.1415 * 125000 = 392687. Probably half that number in practice also. |
| 04:12 |
NakedFury |
157,079.63267948966192313216916398 |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
wait, that's wrong. |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
it's 4/3 pi R cubed isn't it? |
| 04:13 |
NakedFury |
the diameter is 1000 |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
so, pi * radius³ = 3.1415 * 50³ * 4/3 = 3.1415 * 125000 * 1.33333 =~ 523583 |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
so in other words, a metric fuckload of material. |
| 04:15 |
NakedFury |
do you know this from memory? |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
basic math from school yeah |
| 04:15 |
NakedFury |
basic my butt |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
volume of a sphere = pi * radius ^ cubed * 4/3 |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
circumference of a circle = pi * diameter |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember the volume or surface area calculations for an oblate spheroid though, which is what you want. |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
so I'm guesstimating |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 04:17 |
Kacey |
kaeza get back on in a sec |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
k |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
volume of oblate spheroid: pi * long radius ^ cubed * short radius * 4/3 |
| 04:17 |
Kacey |
k go ahead and get on |
| 04:18 |
kaeza |
connecting... |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
so for your 1000-diameter 100-high spheroid, the volume would be about 52,359,878 nodes. |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
I was off a tiny bit :D |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
long radius squared btw, not cubed. |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
(I still calculated it right anyway) |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
lesse... |
| 04:20 |
NakedFury |
lots of blocks |
| 04:21 |
NakedFury |
a bit sad we dont have npcs to populate it |
| 04:21 |
NakedFury |
gnomes |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
2 * pi * long radius squared * (1 + (1 - e squared) / e * tanh(e) ^ -1), where e = 1 - (short radius squared) / (long radius squared) = not worth the effort to calculate it out :D |
| 04:22 |
NakedFury |
this game needs a better light source |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
^^^ surface area = hollow spheroid. |
| 04:22 |
NakedFury |
torches just dont cover enough |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: get Home Decor and More Blocks. those add nice lights. |
| 04:23 |
telek1 |
kaeza: That is an awesome city btw. |
| 04:24 |
VanessaE |
1000-diameter 100-high speroid = 1,634,412 nodes for the surface area. |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
add about 10% to that figure to account for the blockiness of the surface. |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: there's your figures. |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
roughly 52,359,878 nodes for a solid one, 1,634,412 for a hollow one. |
| 04:25 |
VanessaE |
jeesh |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
(I cheated and used an online calculator for the hollow one) |
| 04:26 |
Kacey |
how do i recall a worldedit save? |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: //load |
| 04:27 |
Kacey |
ooh ok |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
//metasave and //metaload |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
Work better BUT |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
You should turn on full range first |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
and use the latest git version |
| 04:27 |
OldCoder |
|
| 04:28 |
* VanessaE |
tries to garner up the energy to sign on and start building her house. |
| 04:28 |
telek1 |
NakedFury: Better light sources means more computation, which c55 was originally trying to avoid. |
| 04:28 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: get Home Decor and use the lights therein. they're quite bright. |
| 04:28 |
NakedFury |
well I said that because a torch just works for like 2 spaces |
| 04:29 |
telek1 |
Yeah longer distance, more calculations per source. |
| 04:29 |
NakedFury |
im using lots of lights right now |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
saw an interesting use of one of my lighting panels just a bit ago - a leaf block sitting on top of a large white "ceiling" panel (but embedded into the ground). |
| 04:31 |
NakedFury |
ohh well good night |
| 04:32 |
kaeza |
Kacey are you here? |
| 04:32 |
Kacey |
yes |
| 04:33 |
Kacey |
you timed out |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
hah! slashdot just took a shit |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
(at least, the science., tech., news., and hardware. domains anyway) |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
there it goes |
| 04:43 |
telek1 |
Interesting |
| 04:43 |
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| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
I am aslee... |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 04:45 |
* telek1 |
waves @ OC. |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it's too early to go to bed |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
(I say as I yawn) |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
got a possible job offer from Finland coming at 5:00am |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
snore |
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
wow |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
sleep |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
etc. |
| 04:48 |
telek1 |
OC: Remote, or worth the relocation? |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
probably remotely, OC is in the US somewhere. |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
that'd be one hell of a relocation ;) |
| 04:57 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: I know other people who have, hence my inquiry :D |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
fair enough :-) |
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| 05:25 |
telek1 |
That's interesting. |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 05:28 |
telek1 |
My minetest server hung. Appears to be creating and destroying threads. |
| 05:29 |
telek1 |
Endlessly. |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
odd. |
| 05:30 |
telek1 |
Also: Jolt+Coffee=Rootbeerish foam. |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
perhaps you should stick to just one form of caffeine |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
you start mixing jolt + coffee you're going to run a risk of upsetting the very fabric of spacetime itself :) |
| 05:31 |
telek1 |
Usually I do, but the water hadn't finished filtering to dilute my coffee :D |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 05:32 |
marktraceur |
Run Jolt through a Brita, then use it to brew coffee |
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| 05:32 |
* telek1 |
grins @ mark :D |
| 05:32 |
marktraceur |
Result: Jolt-flavored coffee without that pesky heart attack |
| 05:33 |
telek1 |
Sadly it's not real jolt. It's got HFCS in it, and not even the 'maybe, depending on run' :D |
| 05:33 |
marktraceur |
(I've heard that vodka + Brita is good fun, if not particularly alcoholic) |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
ew. |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
that shit is evil. |
| 05:33 |
telek1 |
HFCS, or Vodka? :D |
| 05:33 |
marktraceur |
Or Brita? |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
HFCS of course :) |
| 05:33 |
marktraceur |
High Flying Circus Seals |
| 05:33 |
* telek1 |
ponders selling carbonated Vodka with HFCS as the second ingredient behind water :D |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
as for water filters, we use a PÅ«r. :-) |
| 05:34 |
marktraceur |
I'd buy tickets |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
carbonated vodka sweetened with HFCS? *erk* |
| 05:34 |
telek1 |
Mmmmm those seal they rhyme with veal. |
| 05:34 |
telek1 |
Vodka+Red Bull: The liquid equivalent of a speedball? :D |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 05:35 |
telek1 |
Well it's probably killed as many people, it's just cheaper to make :D |
| 05:35 |
telek1 |
Anybody here play Xevil? |
| 05:50 |
kaeza |
hmm... try aspirine and soda |
| 05:50 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Why's that? |
| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
not familiar with it. |
| 05:51 |
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| 05:51 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 05:52 |
kaeza |
two aspirines and a full big glass of soda (preferably cola) keeps you awake for about a month or so |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
wb Kacey |
| 05:52 |
kaeza |
hello again |
| 05:52 |
Kacey |
or just one mountain dew and some nyquil |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
aspirine? you don't mean aspirin do you? |
| 05:52 |
kaeza |
yeah sorry for typo. not native speaker |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
heh, that' ok |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
that's* |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
wasn't sure if you meant aspirin or some other chemical with a similar name. |
| 05:53 |
Kacey |
vanessa you should see the towers we built |
| 05:53 |
kaeza |
lol at least I write englisch proprly |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
(at least you didn't acetylsalisilic acid ;) ) |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
(not sure if I spelled that right. it's the chemical name for aspirin :-) ) |
| 05:54 |
kaeza |
yeah, for me it's better said ""ácido acetil salisÃlico" |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
it's amazing what you can learn from old movies :D |
| 05:54 |
kaeza |
what they normally call aspirin |
| 05:55 |
Kacey |
what is your native language |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
looks like spanish |
| 05:55 |
kaeza |
yeah I learned english from videogames |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
or whatever that related one is they speak in some countries |
| 05:55 |
kaeza |
english class at highschool is crap |
| 05:56 |
Kacey |
lol the name on the google site should have given me a hint |
| 05:56 |
kaeza |
yeah spanish, I'm from Uruguay |
| 05:56 |
Kacey |
nice |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
Uruguay, wow |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
that's a new one on me, haven't met anyone from there |
| 05:56 |
Kacey |
im from nomansland colorado off the united states |
| 05:57 |
Kacey |
of* |
| 05:57 |
telek1 |
kaeza: And you'd probably qualify better than many native speakers, at least here in the US :D |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
West Carolina here (or that's what we'd call it if we secede from North Carolina some day) |
| 05:57 |
kaeza |
cause I'm sort of a grammar nazi :) |
| 05:57 |
* Kacey |
is dying because that statement was true |
| 05:57 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: You'd need more than texas to secede to get them to agree to that :D |
| 05:58 |
Kacey |
just send in clolorado and we are good lol |
| 05:58 |
Kacey |
everything is bigger in texas but everything is MASSIVE in colorado |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
telek1: nonono, I mean just from the state, not from the US :-() |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
fuck texas sideways :) |
| 05:58 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Hah, I knew somebody from out that way :D |
| 05:58 |
kaeza |
lol maybe just carolina is bigger than our entire country |
| 05:58 |
telek1 |
Only been as far as the southernmost tip of Colorado, and possibly whatever bit of it hits 80 if any. |
| 05:58 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Just means you've got less room for idiots to breed in :D |
| 05:59 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: I know, I meant in order for there to be room for them to let you :D |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
telek1: see, we over here on the west end of the state tend to have a different point of view from the rest of North Carolina, enough so that we probably should be our own state instead. |
| 05:59 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: Look up Uruguay in Wikipedia. Unfortunately I suck at our country's history :) |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
oh heh |
| 05:59 |
telek1 |
You'll notice they've been too lazy to work on a flag with more than 50 stars, so the only way any of us states will get subdivision is if another state is annexed or expunged first :D |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: from memory, that's part of South America, northern part adjacent to the carribbean wasn't it? |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
(I suck at Geography :D ) |
| 06:00 |
* telek1 |
notes there's been that discussion regarding norcal and socal, parts of oregon, washington, and elsewhere as well. |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
*looks at map* |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
BZZT, I'm wrong |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
South America, a bit below Brazil :-) |
| 06:00 |
Kacey |
i am pretty good at geography and it is in south america |
| 06:00 |
kaeza |
telek1: well, if you don't count that stupid "plancha" bunch (internal thing maybe), you get like 1% smart people in here |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
as I said, I suck at geography :D |
| 06:01 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Oh so you're on par with the developed world for stupidity :D |
| 06:01 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:02 |
Kacey |
ha here in colorado we r 99% idiots that will do anything and 1% idiots that sit and watch and laugh |
| 06:02 |
telek1 |
::) |
| 06:02 |
kaeza |
Yeah South America! And if you saw Submerged (from Steven Seagal), I'm afraid we haven't goats |
| 06:02 |
kaeza |
Kacey: lol |
| 06:02 |
Kacey |
im both lol |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
telek1: the politics in your continent seem to be on the mend compared to the US. lot of socialist stuff in place there, green energy, etc. yes? |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: yeah but now those 99% idiots can smoke all the weed they want, so you'll never have to see them again except when they go out for chips or pizza :D |
| 06:04 |
Kacey |
lol obama won colorado because of that |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
this country needs more presidents like Obama in the future. |
| 06:04 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Funny given how during his term he was hard on it :D |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
time to start leaning a bit to the left for a change |
| 06:04 |
Kacey |
but it s even funnier now because people are falling down randomly |
| 06:05 |
telek1 |
We had pot dispensaries pop up all over Cali until the feds or dea or whoever came in and hit a few of them, then they all folded up shop and went back to selling under the table. |
| 06:05 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: just a bit, don't do it like here. We are almost a new Cuba |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
understood. |
| 06:06 |
telek1 |
kaeza: New Cuba? You make lots of cigars and drive cars that look like they're from 'Leave it to Beaver'? :D |
| 06:06 |
VanessaE |
still, the US could learn a lot from those evil soshulissts. :-) |
| 06:06 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:06 |
* Kacey |
just landed on his face from laughing at the stoner bird that hit the window |
| 06:07 |
telek1 |
In the middle of the night? :D |
| 06:07 |
telek1 |
Owl? Bat? |
| 06:07 |
kaeza |
no what I mean is the people can hardly survive while the government makes lots of money. BTW i'm surprised they didn't put a tax for breathing. |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
fuck, I hate when I do that. that "politics on the mend" was directed at kaeza, of course, not telek1. |
| 06:07 |
Kacey |
nope it was a bird |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: sounds like here :-/ |
| 06:07 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Well that sounds like here, only the government is going bankrupt while pretending it's all ok :D |
| 06:07 |
Kacey |
robin to be exact |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
a robin flying around in the middle of the night!? |
| 06:08 |
Kacey |
CHINA OWNS THIS COUNTRY NOW!!!!!!! |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
that's more than a little odd. |
| 06:08 |
telek1 |
The only thing that's guaranteed bipartisan: selling out :) |
| 06:08 |
Kacey |
yep |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: not yet, just all the Wal-marts. :-) |
| 06:08 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Minority shareholder :D |
| 06:08 |
telek1 |
They're working on the real-estate angle though, and not just in the US from what I've heard. |
| 06:09 |
Kacey |
lol i have an idea SAY NO TO CHINA!!!!! and then BOMB THEM!!!!! only if they get mad |
| 06:09 |
kaeza |
Kacey: try looking at the back of the world. I may say "Made in Taiwan" |
| 06:09 |
kaeza |
It* |
| 06:09 |
Kacey |
hm my pants are made in guess where |
| 06:09 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Nah, it'd have fallen apart by now. I'm thinking more 'made in Russia' :D |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: would never work. China can out-produce us in every way possible - they've got like 1.5 billion people there or something, versus 350 million here. |
| 06:09 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:09 |
telek1 |
American world would've jammed by now :D |
| 06:09 |
Kacey |
yes the world is made in russia |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
nonono, see you've got it all wrong. |
| 06:10 |
Kacey |
my pants are made in blank? woah |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
all the parts are made in China, but assembled in Mexico. :-) |
| 06:10 |
telek1 |
Maybe some parts German made. |
| 06:10 |
telek1 |
But since it's got some drift it's obviously not german engineered :D |
| 06:10 |
kaeza |
Yeah, but I doubt you can compare the quality of the NorthTech phones with the iPho... nevermind |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
using materials mined from Russia, and techn support outsourced to India :-) |
| 06:11 |
telek1 |
Low cost accents, or high class 'american themed' accents? :D |
| 06:11 |
* Kacey |
tried to callhis mom and got somewhere in india |
| 06:11 |
kaeza |
I see it coming... In soviet russia... |
| 06:11 |
telek1 |
Kacey: She outsourced her parenting duties? :D |
| 06:11 |
telek1 |
Wow. That's the most awesome idea ever. |
| 06:11 |
telek1 |
I should start a parenting outsourcing agency! :D |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE |
In soviet russia, world builds you? :-) |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
build* |
| 06:12 |
Kacey |
no her phone is forwarding calls to india now for some reason |
| 06:12 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Weird. |
| 06:12 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 06:12 |
Kacey |
ha nokias break when they see my phone |
| 06:12 |
kaeza |
Kacey: Impossibru! |
| 06:13 |
telek1 |
P4 era laptop with a celeron: ~50W |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE |
I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one left with a "dumb" cell phone...as in not a smartphone |
| 06:13 |
telek1 |
That's semi-loaded. |
| 06:13 |
Kacey |
my phone is an alcatel which is gibberish for chuck norris |
| 06:13 |
kaeza |
I believe if the world was flat, it would be supported by pillars of nokia phones |
| 06:13 |
Kacey |
no alcatel phones |
| 06:13 |
Kacey |
i have a dumb phone |
| 06:13 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Nokia. There's WAY MORE OF THEM |
| 06:14 |
Kacey |
no actually |
| 06:14 |
telek1 |
They used to be the de-facto cheap phone. |
| 06:14 |
Kacey |
alcatel did the math |
| 06:14 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: that's all you need anyway. Need to make a phone call? just have chuck norris pound the words into the nearest piece of stone and lob it at your other party :) |
| 06:14 |
Kacey |
2 to 1 ratio of alcatels to nokias |
| 06:14 |
Kacey |
lol vanessa |
| 06:14 |
* telek1 |
groans @ VanessaE |
| 06:14 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:15 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: Chuck norris need not do that. He just stares the stone and it runs away to deliver the message. |
| 06:15 |
telek1 |
I thought he was too busy singlehandedly fighting the Pandarians while singing the lyrics to 'Everybody was Kung Fu fighting.' |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
telek1: eh, to be fair that whole chuck norris thing was starting to get tired anyway ;-) |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
lol kaeza |
| 06:15 |
Kacey |
hhow about the epic tales of Kacey? |
| 06:16 |
telek1 |
Also is it me or should Blizzard totally be getting sued for false advertising given that gameplay is nothing like the ads they're running? |
| 06:16 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Agreed, hence my groan :D |
| 06:17 |
Kacey |
thanks telek1 you got that song stuck in my head... |
| 06:17 |
kaeza |
telek: very true. Though I can't afford WoW right now, I played WC3. It's good, but still crap for what the ads show you. |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
telek1: haven't played a blizzard game in...forever |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
I don't remember what it was, or when. |
| 06:18 |
kaeza |
I don't really see a fine woman like VanessaE going "Imma Zerg all o' you mofos!" |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
lol! |
| 06:18 |
Kacey |
telek1 want to join my server and build? |
| 06:18 |
telek1 |
Kacey: *grins* |
| 06:19 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: maybe not, but it wasn't long ago that I'd be happy to nail a bot in the back of the head with a railgun ;-) |
| 06:19 |
VanessaE |
so, blizzard it may not be, |
| 06:19 |
telek1 |
kaeza VanessaE: Yep. I stopped playing them during the bnetd trial. |
| 06:19 |
VanessaE |
but I'll stikk kick some ass in games now and then. :-) |
| 06:19 |
telek1 |
So Diablo 2 era. |
| 06:19 |
kaeza |
:O |
| 06:19 |
VanessaE |
still* |
| 06:19 |
telek1 |
Kacey: Would, but I've already got my own server I'm neglecting :l |
| 06:20 |
Kacey |
mine is a little lag but it isnt bad |
| 06:20 |
telek1 |
Wonder how hard it'd be to add inter-server portals. |
| 06:20 |
kaeza |
maybe we can join for a CS game someday :) |
| 06:20 |
* ruskie |
thinks there's nothing wrong with dumb phones... they tend to work better than the so called "smart" phones anyway |
| 06:21 |
Kacey |
when pigs fl.... nvm there went one |
| 06:21 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Dumb, smart, all the phones are powerful enough to spy on you nowadays :D |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
ruskie: problem is, "dumb" phones always seem to be crammed full of the world's slowest electronics and stupidest UI design... |
| 06:21 |
telek1 |
'Dumb phones' today are like reissue TI-83s: There's way more under the hood than what you think from the UI :D |
| 06:21 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, hehe |
| 06:22 |
kaeza |
I have yet to see a GOOD motorola phone |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE |
no, I'm serious - some stuff on my old phone, I swear my C64 would be faster at. :-) |
| 06:22 |
kaeza |
or for that matter, any piece of equipment |
| 06:22 |
ruskie |
telek1, true... that's why I still have a nokia 5110 from 13+ years ago in my drawer that when I stopped using was 6 years old and could still hold a charge of a week |
| 06:23 |
Kacey |
ha my brother had a motorolla razor and he hated it |
| 06:24 |
kaeza |
they use crappy materials, crappy electronics, and worse yet, most carriers (at least here) don't provide direct support for Motorola phones |
| 06:24 |
ruskie |
you need a carrier to provide support? |
| 06:24 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 06:24 |
Kacey |
hey ruskie want to join my server? |
| 06:24 |
ruskie |
only thing I need from a cellco is that they give me a sim card I plug in and it works |
| 06:25 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Yeppers. Here in the US, cell phone companies own you. |
| 06:25 |
ruskie |
Kacey, I just got into work |
| 06:25 |
Kacey |
ooh ok |
| 06:25 |
ruskie |
telek1, yeah I'm familiar with that crap |
| 06:25 |
kaeza |
I mean, if something is wrong with the phone, you have to go to the HQ (is that the term) of Motorola to get it replaced |
| 06:26 |
ruskie |
kaeza, I'd say qualified repair shop |
| 06:26 |
telek1 |
Idealogically: In Russia people own companies. In America companies own people. In Reality: Rich people own poor people. |
| 06:26 |
telek1 |
s/Idea/Ideo/ |
| 06:26 |
ruskie |
kaeza, frankly I don't buy my devices from cellcos anymore but direct... so any service always goes direct to their repair centers |
| 06:26 |
kaeza |
ok you get the point I guess |
| 06:27 |
* VanessaE |
starts to fade away from tiredness |
| 06:27 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Service Center of Motorola |
| 06:27 |
ruskie |
avoids the crud sw cellcos tend to push on the devices |
| 06:27 |
kaeza |
I mean, you but from Verizon, then take it to verizon and they take care of it |
| 06:27 |
telek1 |
Which may or may not be a Motorola company. |
| 06:27 |
telek1 |
VanessaE: Have a good night :) |
| 06:27 |
kaeza |
telek: thanks, that's the one |
| 06:28 |
Kacey |
night vanessa |
| 06:28 |
kaeza |
good night Vanessa! |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
well jeez |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
you guys wanna get rid of me that bad huh? |
| 06:28 |
telek1 |
kaeza: Yeah trying to figure out which word is appropriate is tiring. |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
I ain't asleep yet :-) |
| 06:28 |
kaeza |
what time is it there? |
| 06:28 |
kaeza |
just asking |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
1:28am |
| 06:28 |
telek1 |
Most of the reason I don't know a bunch of foreign languages. The other one being that all bilingual people would rather be lazy and talk in english rather than help you learn around here :D |
| 06:29 |
kaeza |
am I a freak if I say it's 4:26 here? |
| 06:29 |
Kacey |
kaeza i made the pool die!!!!!! |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: no :-) |
| 06:29 |
kaeza |
NOOOOOOO!!! |
| 06:29 |
kaeza |
j/k how? |
| 06:29 |
Kacey |
dive* |
| 06:29 |
telek1 |
o.O |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
I've pulled more all-nighters than I can count over the years, so 4:26am is nothing new :-) |
| 06:29 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
but I try not to do that too much anymore. |
| 06:30 |
telek1 |
OHHH |
| 06:30 |
kaeza |
a letter can change everything: die -> diVe |
| 06:30 |
telek1 |
You guys are carribean-ish timezone, huh? |
| 06:30 |
Kacey |
it is 11:30 here |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
US eastern, here. |
| 06:30 |
kaeza |
GMT -3:00 |
| 06:30 |
ruskie |
telek1, most bilingual people tend to not be lazy but are aware that it's hard to learn another language if you're not predisposed to it |
| 06:30 |
ruskie |
07:30 here |
| 06:30 |
* telek1 |
always forgets just how big a diff the geography of SA is compared to NA, timezone-wise. |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
I think we're at -0400 now aren't we? |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
(damn Ben Franklin and his idiotic concept of daylight savings :-) |
| 06:31 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 06:31 |
ruskie |
telek1, also teaching someone is a lot harder than it sounds with some things |
| 06:31 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:31 |
ruskie |
DST needs to die |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
ruskie: here here. |
| 06:31 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Agreed on both :D |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
it needs to die in a fire. |
| 06:32 |
ruskie |
well atleast russia abolished it already |
| 06:32 |
telek1 |
They should've killed it when they changed the schedule. |
| 06:32 |
ruskie |
now europe needs to do it... |
| 06:32 |
telek1 |
Ever wonder how many pieces of software broke as a result of that 1 monthish change? |
| 06:32 |
kaeza |
let me teach you a few words, and you'll see how hard it is in spanish to properly remember them: |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
an indian guy said it best - "Only a white man could think that cutting a fot off one end of a blanket and sewing it onto the other end somehow yields a larger blanket." |
| 06:32 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, hehehe |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
foot* |
| 06:32 |
Kacey |
67.162.156.91 port 30000 |
| 06:32 |
telek1 |
True that. |
| 06:33 |
Kacey |
lol i did that once |
| 06:33 |
* telek1 |
goes by day/night now anyways. |
| 06:33 |
kaeza |
hear -> "oÃr" | heart -> "corazón" |
| 06:33 |
telek1 |
Chickens don't care what the clock says, only if it's time to cockadoodledoo :D |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 06:33 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:33 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 06:33 |
Kacey |
that is true i have 170 chickens |
| 06:34 |
Kacey |
4 am wake up call |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
that must make one hell of a racket every morn. |
| 06:34 |
kaeza |
my chickens must be broke. they cockadoodledoo at 7:00PM |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:34 |
kaeza |
broken* |
| 06:34 |
telek1 |
The time change is a PITA for getting out just in time to put them away for the night before it's dark enough to require a flashlight. And we've got a ton of noturnal predators out here. Racoons, possums, cats, etc. |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: where we used to live (for about a year and a half, ending a little over a month ago), those bastards would crow at all hours of the day, and once or twice we heard them in the middle of th enight too. |
| 06:35 |
Kacey |
lol my ducks come and lay on us if we arent awake by 5 am |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 06:35 |
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| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
<VanessaE> kaeza: where we used to live (for about a year and a half, ending a little over a month ago), those bastards would crow at all hours of the day, and once or twice we heard them in the middle of th enight too. |
| 06:36 |
kaeza_ |
modem got disconnected :( |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
well next time tell your mom not to pick up the handset when you're on the line :D |
| 06:36 |
kaeza_ |
yeah same here |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
(sorry, yet another tired old joke) |
| 06:36 |
kaeza_ |
handset? what is that? :P |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
G*d it's been that long hasn't it? |
| 06:38 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
I remember when I used to bitch out my sister or get irritated at mom, as needed, for picking up the phone and knocking me off my favorite BBS :-) |
| 06:38 |
Kacey |
kaeza i am halfway done with the roof |
| 06:38 |
kaeza_ |
not that long. ten years ago we had handsets. today we have computers the size of a nail |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
now I bitch at my ISP for having idiots working for them that seem to do the same thing from time to time, or used to anyway at the old place :-) |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
(or at least, the cable modem equivalent, whatever that might be) |
| 06:39 |
kaeza_ |
BBS? LOL so old-school (says a man that is chatting on IRC) |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
kaeza_: BBS...in the 300-buad modem days. :-) |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
on a C64. With a single floppy drive and television for a monitor. |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
THAT is oldskool :-) |
| 06:40 |
kaeza_ |
I grew up with the Speccy |
| 06:40 |
ruskie |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/21/schoolgirl_expelled_rfid_chip/ <-- good for her |
| 06:40 |
Kacey |
i grew up with windows xp |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE |
ruskie: yeah, saw a blurb about that on slashdot earlier. Didn't read into it yet. |
| 06:41 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: get yourself an old 8-bit computer - spectrum, C64, apple, atari, whatever. Set it up and play around with it. prepare to be amazed :-) |
| 06:41 |
Kacey |
we had old apples in elementary school but they died quickly after i bit them all |
| 06:42 |
* ruskie |
is already amazed that his p133 of 6 years was faster at running the software at the time than most modern kit is |
| 06:42 |
kaeza_ |
Kacey lol you play Playstation 2. Do you know what the "2" is right? |
| 06:42 |
Kacey |
no what is it? |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: if it wasn't an "Apple ][", it wasn't "an old apple" :-) |
| 06:43 |
telek1 |
Hrmm guess those 'PlaceBo(tm)' brand flea pills are working. |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
telek1: heh |
| 06:43 |
Kacey |
lol ikr i use them all the time |
| 06:43 |
kaeza_ |
8| |
| 06:43 |
kaeza_ |
what about Jet Set Willy? |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
ok guys, time to call it a night. |
| 06:44 |
telek1 |
Nah seriously our dog just had it put on like 3-4 days ago and I was just petting her and she had little round black things crawling on her. |
| 06:44 |
telek1 |
Night VE :) |
| 06:44 |
Kacey |
is it the level you have to be to defeat them? |
| 06:44 |
kaeza_ |
good night Vanessa! |
| 06:44 |
Kacey |
night vanessa |
| 06:44 |
telek1 |
You know that'd be a awesome minetest addition. |
| 06:44 |
Kacey |
what |
| 06:45 |
telek1 |
A 'metalevel' inside your minetest world taking place on an animal mob. |
| 06:45 |
Kacey |
? |
| 06:45 |
telek1 |
You have to run around on the mob killing fleas in minaturized form :D |
| 06:45 |
Kacey |
ooh lol ya |
| 06:45 |
kaeza_ |
telek: cool thing |
| 06:45 |
telek1 |
Maybe fashioning items out of hair, dead skin and living tissue. |
| 06:46 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 06:46 |
telek1 |
'Flea bone helmet' FTW :D |
| 06:46 |
kaeza_ |
ruskie: cool article |
| 06:46 |
kaeza_ |
sorry for the late reply |
| 06:46 |
Kacey |
what does ftw mean again? |
| 06:46 |
kaeza_ |
For The Win!! |
| 06:46 |
Kacey |
ooh ok |
| 06:47 |
telek1 |
I bet Vanessa woulda schooled you on that if she wasn't sleeping :D |
| 06:47 |
kaeza_ |
lol |
| 06:47 |
kaeza_ |
so true |
| 06:47 |
Kacey |
lol ya but im not afraid of her |
| 06:47 |
telek1 |
It spawned out of the FPS community of the late 90s early '00s |
| 06:47 |
kaeza_ |
Doom? |
| 06:48 |
kaeza_ |
Duke Nukem? |
| 06:48 |
telek1 |
Maybe, or Quake. |
| 06:48 |
kaeza_ |
That's modern for the timespan |
| 06:48 |
Kacey |
NUKEM!!!!!!! |
| 06:48 |
telek1 |
Duke while popular didn't seem to have the sort of social cult that id games had. |
| 06:48 |
kaeza_ |
yeah |
| 06:48 |
telek1 |
Probably in part because id made the move of having quakeworld as an official convention |
| 06:49 |
kaeza_ |
They killed it with the third installment (Doom I mean) |
| 06:49 |
telek1 |
Yep. |
| 06:49 |
telek1 |
I was still able to buy doom1/2+all quake games up until around or after doom3 came out. |
| 06:49 |
telek1 |
But I *NEVER* saw doom3 on store shelves after it's initial run ran out. |
| 06:49 |
kaeza_ |
heh remember the first time my brother-in-law brought Doom for the SNES... |
| 06:49 |
telek1 |
Ugh :D |
| 06:50 |
telek1 |
That's like buying Morrowind or Skyrim for the 360/PS3 :D |
| 06:50 |
Kacey |
i gtghave a happy thanksgiving |
| 06:50 |
* telek1 |
waves! |
| 06:50 |
kaeza_ |
that's also like playing GTA2 on the PSX. Yuck! |
| 06:50 |
telek1 |
Lol :D |
| 06:50 |
telek1 |
GTA2 you didn't really lose much control-wise though right? |
| 06:51 |
telek1 |
GTA3 would've been more of a loss. |
| 06:51 |
kaeza_ |
after playing GTA2 for PC, you say "OMG this game SUXXX" |
| 06:51 |
kaeza_ |
I agree. Prolly the best GTA games on PS2 are VC and SA |
| 06:52 |
kaeza_ |
I don't like SA very much though |
| 06:53 |
telek1 |
Yeah |
| 06:53 |
telek1 |
Well SA was better than 4 :D |
| 06:53 |
telek1 |
More stuff to do. |
| 06:53 |
telek1 |
And better camera angles than VC |
| 06:53 |
kaeza_ |
Can't play F***ing 4 on my comp. Crappy gfx card. |
| 06:54 |
kaeza_ |
Is it that bad? |
| 06:54 |
kaeza_ |
Yeah SA had a lot (maybe a TON) of openness, but IDK. VC had more "oldschoolness" to me. |
| 06:55 |
kaeza_ |
"All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ!" |
| 06:59 |
kaeza_ |
versus "You took fifteen years from me Sonny... And now I'm gonna make you pay!" |
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| 07:06 |
ruskie |
telek1, as I only have a PS3 for playing such games(skyrim) I do buy them for that system |
| 07:07 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Ouch. |
| 07:07 |
ruskie |
telek1, well I'm not willing to purchase a windows license or dedicate any siginficant funds towards a "gaming PC" it works for me |
| 07:08 |
ruskie |
also I must say I like playing on a gamepad |
| 07:08 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Can understand that. Honestly though a nocd crack and wine usually solves that. |
| 07:08 |
telek1 |
Biggest thing though is the loss of mods |
| 07:09 |
ruskie |
telek1, I don't use cracked sw and wine doesn't work on 64bit |
| 07:09 |
telek1 |
Most of those games I wouldn't play if it wasn't for modding. |
| 07:09 |
telek1 |
o.O |
| 07:09 |
telek1 |
wine should work on 64 bit. |
| 07:09 |
ruskie |
only for 64bit sw |
| 07:09 |
ruskie |
last I checked |
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ruskie |
it didn't have a 32-on-64bit compat layer |
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ruskie |
and yeah... CD... hahahaha... I don't have an optical reader in any of my computers at all |
| 07:11 |
ruskie |
anyway I generally play something for the story |
| 07:11 |
ruskie |
the mods wouldn't give me much extra benefit |
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telek1 |
ruskie: Wow guess you're right. |
| 07:12 |
telek1 |
I'm exactly opposite. |
| 07:12 |
telek1 |
Also if it wasn't for nocds I probably wouldn't still be gaming. |
| 07:13 |
* telek1 |
has like two towers worth of stamps CDs/DVDs of games, but only 1 working dvd player for all his comps. |
| 07:13 |
ruskie |
not to mention my skyrim game atm is some 60h in and I haven't touched anything about the main storyline other than the first one or two things |
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telek1 |
Erm stamped (IE original) |
| 07:13 |
ruskie |
telek1, I'm waiting to see what steam 4 linux will bring |
| 07:13 |
telek1 |
Eww |
| 07:13 |
telek1 |
I'm not. |
| 07:13 |
ruskie |
I might buy some games for that |
| 07:13 |
telek1 |
I don't like digital distribution |
| 07:13 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 07:13 |
telek1 |
If it's not on physical media I won't buy it. |
| 07:13 |
ruskie |
I prefer physical media as well |
| 07:14 |
ruskie |
hence why I prefer a console |
| 07:14 |
ruskie |
pop in the disc and it works |
| 07:14 |
telek1 |
I'd be up for USB high-capacity ROMs though. |
| 07:14 |
ruskie |
no nocd and other crap |
| 07:14 |
telek1 |
ruskie: Except all the new generation console games are apparently moving towards online activation too. |
| 07:14 |
ruskie |
telek1, only for multiplayer |
| 07:14 |
ruskie |
"online pass" and similar |
| 07:15 |
telek1 |
I don't remember what game but I've heard there's some new ones that are doing it single as well. |
| 07:15 |
ruskie |
doesn't prevent you from playing the single player game |
| 07:15 |
ruskie |
telek1, a lot of it are people over-reacting |
| 07:15 |
telek1 |
Regardless other than some racing games there's nothing on the consoles that particularly grabs my attention. |
| 07:16 |
ruskie |
I don't have that many console exclusives |
| 07:16 |
ruskie |
most of the stuff is multiplat |
| 07:17 |
ruskie |
wrt to steam4linux I'm hoping that it will provide game makers an incentive to start publishing on linux and thus might even provide physical media releases |
| 07:17 |
ruskie |
but frankly I'm happy with the humble bundle games and open source games |
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celeron55 |
oh lovely; the server is unreachable again |
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telek1 |
celeron55: Yeppers, has been most of the day :/ |
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celeron55 |
marktraceur: http://www.indiegogo.com/free-game-modding <- i think people would be much more ready to pay for engine features |
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M13 |
is the minetest site down??? |
| 08:44 |
telek1 |
Yep |
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telek1 |
C55 knows about it, not sure when a resolution will happen however. |
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M13 |
ok thnx |
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M13 |
is Puppy Linux good for Minetest???? |
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telek1 |
M13: Isn't Puppy Linux one of the ultra-small distros? |
| 09:24 |
ruskie |
he left |
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ruskie |
but it shouldn't matter |
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telek1 |
ruskie: It might if it's running tinyX instead of real X (and thus no opengl acceleration.) |
| 09:26 |
ruskie |
I don't think they are |
| 09:26 |
ruskie |
I run saluki on my eeepc701 and I tried it on another box as well worked fine for FTL |
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telek1 |
Ahh, cool then. |
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ruskie |
the only issue might be finding a ready made package for it |
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telek1 |
That's true with most distros though. |
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celeron55 |
the site's up again... hoping now that the hosting provider got some useful data of the crash |
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* ruskie |
has his build for slackware64 |
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telek1 |
celeron55: It crashed this time? Man you've been having bad luck with it the past few days, huh? |
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Taoki |
<celeron55> marktraceur: http://www.indiegogo.com/free-game-modding <- i think people would be much more ready to pay for engine features |
| 10:40 |
Taoki |
That's a pretty interesting idea. Always wondered about a system to encourage new features in FOSS games by donating as well. Sadly, 1500$ in 40 days seems completely impossible. Most I could donate at my current financial state is 5$ (10$ at most), and I doubt a lot of people can do more |
| 10:41 |
Taoki |
And even so my mom would be upset when I tell her :P But for MineTest I'd do it... just not sure what happens if the goal isn't achieved, since I surely can't afford wasting any money |
| 10:44 |
ruskie |
Taoki, you get it back |
| 10:45 |
ruskie |
funding projects oly get the money if he goal is reached |
| 10:45 |
Taoki |
Hmm... ok. Let's hope that website is safe to use via PayPal, I never really used it before and am cauitious with money online |
| 10:45 |
Taoki |
Though it would be sad if the whole thing is cancelled because it gets eg: 1400$ instead of 1500$ |
| 10:50 |
ruskie |
How Refunds Work |
| 10:50 |
ruskie |
Contributions are nonrefundable. We may refund your contribution if your contribution was accidentally made twice or if the campaign has not raised enough money by its deadline to cover the cost of disbursement. We also refund any contributions made to a Fixed Funding campaign that has not met its |
| 10:50 |
ruskie |
goal by its deadline. |
| 10:50 |
ruskie |
and that is a fixed funding campaign |
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Taoki |
I chipped in a bit... hope I won't need to be refunded and instead this will help MineTest :) |
| 11:00 |
Taoki |
That would make me cry lol |
| 11:02 |
Taoki |
Please at least post more about it. Perhaps you could put that link in the channel topic OldCoder . I assume someone made a forum post already |
| 11:04 |
* Taoki |
wishes someone made a more possible goal though. Like or to be on the safe side. That campaign asks for a lot |
| 11:04 |
Taoki |
* $1000 or $500 |
| 11:05 |
Taoki |
haha, my IRC client saw the $ symbol as a command in /me :P |
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ruskie |
broken client ;) |
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Taoki |
nah, it's a good client. This is a feature, you need to set the input field to "friendly mode". But it's hard to default it |
| 11:19 |
Taoki |
I use KVIrc. Primary reason why I got it years ago is that it's the only IRC client with avatar support |
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ruskie |
considering it's the only irc client that actually has such an idea hehe |
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* ruskie |
enjoys irssi |
| 11:23 |
Taoki |
Yeah, I wish more did |
| 11:33 |
Taoki |
marktraceur: When you are back, I'd like to hear more about what you have in mind for MineTest. I chipped in for that campaign a bit although it is difficult to do for me at this moment, since I'm very interested in MineTest. Will you be giving part of it to other developers as well? Is it for engine features also (it's ok if not since mods are also important and will be the main thing) |
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steampunkey |
what's with mt1.gameboom.net? |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in for a few. |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
good morning. |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
insomnia sucks, sleep is overrated, etc. ;) |
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ruskie |
aww |
| 12:29 |
ruskie |
only 90 min or left before end of work for me |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
time to go home and P-A-R-T..why? because you gotta. :-) |
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Ragnar_ |
hi |
| 12:37 |
jin_xi |
hi Ragnar_ |
| 12:37 |
jin_xi |
hi ruskie |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
:D |
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jin_xi |
hi VanessaE |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
ruskie? |
| 12:37 |
Ragnar_ |
xD |
| 12:37 |
ruskie |
heh |
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ruskie |
some people have a delay apparently |
| 12:38 |
Ragnar_ |
ow...i thought that ruskie as in somebody from russia |
| 12:38 |
Ragnar_ |
:D |
| 12:39 |
Ragnar_ |
hey is PilzAdam here? |
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VanessaE |
hey jin, ruskie. |
| 12:40 |
VanessaE |
Ragnar_: no, not at present |
| 12:40 |
Ragnar_ |
ok... :D |
| 12:40 |
Ragnar_ |
hey VanessaE... |
| 12:40 |
Ragnar_ |
is it possible to make classes in minetest? |
| 12:40 |
Ragnar_ |
like players have diffrent skins |
| 12:42 |
Ragnar_ |
Vanessa? |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
there, finally I'm figuring out how to use branches properly in git. |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
well |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
actually it IS possible, and in fact I think it was pilzadam who wrote a mod to do that. |
| 12:45 |
Ragnar_ |
really? |
| 12:45 |
Ragnar_ |
yay :D |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
gives each player their own skin, by player name = partial filename |
| 12:45 |
Ragnar_ |
ow :D |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
at least it works for 2D skins, but not the new 3D stuff (yet) |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
(3D stuff has not been merged, but looks to happen soon if celeron55 isn't too stubborn :-) ) |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
so like my name is Ragnar (online) and so Ragnar = Ragnar.jpeg |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
? |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
similar yeah |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
xD |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
player_ragnar.png, player_ragnar_back.png |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
(but jpg can be used too, as well as several others) |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
ow :d |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
nice :D |
| 12:46 |
Ragnar_ |
thanks alot! |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
no prob, |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
one sec.. |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE |
lemme find it. |
| 12:47 |
Ragnar_ |
ok |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3587 |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
there, the new branches are pull-requested. |
| 12:48 |
VanessaE |
that should make PilzAdam happy (this is not related to player skins) ;) |
| 12:48 |
Ragnar_ |
it kinda is xD |
| 12:51 |
VanessaE |
no I meant my pull requests, they're for something completely different. |
| 12:52 |
Ragnar_ |
it kinda is xD |
| 12:54 |
Ragnar_ |
have you seen "Rules of Engagment" ? |
| 12:54 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 12:54 |
Ragnar_ |
its from there |
| 12:54 |
Ragnar_ |
the "It Kinda Is" |
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Ragnar_ |
VanessaE |
| 12:56 |
Ragnar_ |
are you playing right now? |
| 12:56 |
Ragnar_ |
could you make a screenshot of some landscape or something? |
| 12:56 |
Ragnar_ |
without anybody in it... |
| 12:56 |
Ragnar_ |
i need it for my website banner :d |
| 13:00 |
Ragnar_ |
hey can somebody help me? |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
you can probably use the one from the main website |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
images there are cc-by-sa I think |
| 13:03 |
Ragnar_ |
ow ok |
| 13:03 |
Ragnar_ |
ill check that... |
| 13:03 |
Ragnar_ |
where? |
| 13:03 |
VanessaE |
minetest.net |
| 13:04 |
Ragnar_ |
yeah i know...but whres the cc-by-sa? |
| 13:04 |
Ragnar_ |
or what is it... |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
creative commons license |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
"creative commons - author attribution - share alike" |
| 13:04 |
VanessaE |
in that order. |
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Ragnar_ |
ow... |
| 13:05 |
Ragnar_ |
ok |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
it means download and share all you want, just be sure you say who and where you got it from and don't pass it off as your own. |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
make changes to it too if you like, just make a note of where the original image came from. |
| 13:05 |
VanessaE |
it's a good license for images. |
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Ragnar_ |
ok |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Ragnar_ |
hey does somebody know, that does minetest have a World of Minetest server/mod? |
| 13:49 |
Ragnar_ |
like in minecraft has World of Minecraft... |
| 13:51 |
Ragnar_ |
'cause im making a World of Minetest server+homepage+classes :d |
| 13:51 |
Ragnar_ |
nice eh? xD |
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Matsetes |
Hi! How can I open the inventory plus? |
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Ragnar_ |
hi |
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Ragnar_ |
VanessaE hey, is it possible, that if you kill somebody, you earn money and maybe an item... the item is a 1/99 chance... |
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Ragnar_ |
is it possible? |
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mauvebic |
What happenned to gloopmaster? he pulled all his topics |
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redcrab |
hi there ... I ve notified yesterday about minetestmapper.py error that sometime occurs ... { impix[x - minx * 16 + border, h - 1 - (z - minz * 16) + border] = (r, g, b) |
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redcrab |
TypeError: an integer is required } ... I guess that x is sometime Long and sometime Integer ... due to Z par value of the "pos" attribute on "blocks" sqlite table definition .. the python "def getIntegerAsBlock(i):" have sometime a "i" as Long and sometime with with a Integer and the transformation start with "x" , y and z are always downcasted into integer with "int(...)" function x is not ... so sometime long sometime Int |
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redcrab |
eger ... Then I ve updated the python script to find out if this the cause origin , I will keep you in touch .... meanwhile you may see the current result by visiting my minetest megamap generation of the redcrab.suret.net 30401 server on http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.html with this 8640x8640 generated map |
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Penguin |
hi |
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Penguin |
hi |
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OldCoder |
Hey |
| 15:05 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, hello |
| 15:06 |
Penguin |
hey is server up |
| 15:06 |
OldCoder |
30004 ? No. Sorry; trying to decide what to do with the world. |
| 15:06 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, ^ |
| 15:06 |
OldCoder |
Taoki can you elaborate regarding forum topic? |
| 15:06 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, Give me a little while longer to decide |
| 15:06 |
Penguin |
okay carnt connect to any server |
| 15:07 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Marktraceur is trying to raise money for minetest. If he doesn't get $1500 in 40 days though, it just gets refunded and doesn't help. So I as thinking of spreading the word about it |
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OldCoder |
Penguin, Yes |
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OldCoder |
Taoki, all right |
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OldCoder |
Penguin, I have a problem. Looks like 30004 took down my entire VPS. |
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OldCoder |
I am researching this now |
| 15:08 |
Penguin |
okay |
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mauvebic |
1500$ for what ? |
| 15:08 |
Penguin |
restarting my pc brb |
| 15:08 |
mauvebic |
1500$... should offer bounties for specific features instead :p |
| 15:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Indicate what you'd like to add to topic |
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Taoki |
OldCoder: http://www.indiegogo.com/free-game-modding |
| 15:10 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, No... |
| 15:10 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Indicate exact wording you'd like to add to topic |
| 15:10 |
Taoki |
c55 posted the link, I chipped in a bit already |
| 15:10 |
Taoki |
ah, ok |
| 15:10 |
OldCoder |
Others: I'm attempting to reboot my VPS |
| 15:11 |
Taoki |
Anything about it... it's a fund to raise money for MineTest |
| 15:11 |
Taoki |
I'm ont good with words :p |
| 15:11 |
Taoki |
**not |
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OldCoder |
Taoki, Feel free to ask others to suggest a wording then |
| 15:11 |
OldCoder |
If there is consensus then certainly we could link |
| 15:11 |
Taoki |
Sure. If anyone here has an idea please mention it |
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Penguin |
Back |
| 15:13 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, My VPS is apparently destroyed :-( |
| 15:13 |
OldCoder |
I have a business meeting in a few meetings. Then I will spend time today trying to rebuild things. |
| 15:14 |
Penguin |
Oh okay is 30015 up |
| 15:15 |
Penguin |
i carnt connect to any server |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, That is what I am trying to explain |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
My VPS is destroyed |
| 15:15 |
Penguin |
so no servers are open ? |
| 15:15 |
OldCoder |
Penguin... |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
Death. Oblivion. |
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OldCoder |
Poof! |
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OldCoder |
Gone! |
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OldCoder |
Evaporated |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
Is this clearer :-) |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
My VPS is destroyed |
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Penguin |
oh :( |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
I will try to rebuild things today |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
It appears that work on 30004 took up all the system memory |
| 15:16 |
OldCoder |
That is bad |
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OldCoder |
I have a business meeting in a few meetings |
| 15:17 |
OldCoder |
That I will put the pieces back together |
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OldCoder |
Kacey, Hi |
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Kacey |
hello and happy thanksgiving |
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babyface1031 |
hi everyone |
| 15:37 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, might want to put the issue somewhere in the topic or something |
| 15:37 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Yes |
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Topic for #minetest is now STATUS: OldCoder VPS down; he's working on it today | IRC: Be patient in general; get to know the rules | HOME PAGE: minetest.net | FOR CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, I'll add the donation link when there is consensus |
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babyface1031 |
30004 still causeing problems @OldCoder |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, it sort of wrecked my VPS |
| 15:40 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
The whole thing is down |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
Fried |
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OldCoder |
I may need to rebuild the VPS from scratch |
| 15:40 |
OldCoder |
That is a heck of a world :-) |
| 15:41 |
babyface1031 |
oh wow did 3000 |
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OldCoder |
Ah |
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babyface1031 |
did 3004 do it to the vps |
| 15:41 |
OldCoder |
Looks like I'm back in. The disks were probably corrupted. |
| 15:42 |
OldCoder |
We'll be down part of the day but I probably have everything |
| 15:42 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, I think I ran out of RAM due to work on 30004. That tends to hose things. |
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babyface1031 |
ahh ok thats fine you take your time i am in no hurry |
| 15:42 |
babyface1031 |
oh |
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OldCoder |
I may upgrade my VPS farther but I'll need to check the costs |
| 15:43 |
OldCoder |
I have everything; 30004 will revert to no farther back than the 17th |
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babyface1031 |
thats fine if 30004 is the problem that did this maybe we need to get rid of it and play on one of the other ones or start a new map and hope it not the map |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
Nah |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
It will be fine |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
But may be time for me to reorganize |
| 15:45 |
OldCoder |
And possibly upgrade the VPS |
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babyface1031 |
ok |
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Taoki |
Oh nice... there's also a shorter link which is good for the topic. http://igg.me/p/281771 |
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Kacey |
iriririririririririr |
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Kacey |
i feel like modding but i am not good at much with it just registering basic things |
| 16:01 |
RealBadAngel |
1500$ nice money, my 3 month earnings :P |
| 16:01 |
uzver |
hmm |
| 16:02 |
uzver |
RealBadAngel: where did you read about 1500? can't find in the chat, probably broken? o.O |
| 16:02 |
RealBadAngel |
click the link above |
| 16:02 |
uzver |
ah ok |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
http://igg.me/p/281771 |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
for this money i could quit the job and live from modding |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 16:04 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
adf.ly anyone? |
| 16:04 |
Kacey |
? |
| 16:04 |
ruskie |
ugh |
| 16:06 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur lives in an expensive country 8) |
| 16:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 16:06 |
celeron55 |
we should fund some polish guy so it'd be way cheaper 8D |
| 16:07 |
Kacey |
or some chinese 6 year old |
| 16:07 |
ruskie |
hmm that's roughly a months pay for me |
| 16:07 |
celeron55 |
in here $1500 is like 40-80% of a month's pay |
| 16:08 |
Kacey |
in the us that is quite a bit right now |
| 16:08 |
RealBadAngel |
i get 350usd per month, workin 5 days a week, 8hrs |
| 16:08 |
thexyz |
celeron55: any idea on what to do with gloopmaster's topics? |
| 16:08 |
Kacey |
i get $50 a day for sitting in a combine |
| 16:09 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: does anyone care about the mods? |
| 16:09 |
celeron55 |
like, in practice |
| 16:09 |
Kacey |
celeron55: why does minetest.net keep going down? |
| 16:09 |
thexyz |
i've already reuploaded all his mods here http://mods.minetest.ru/ |
| 16:09 |
celeron55 |
Kacey: i don't know (yet) |
| 16:09 |
Kacey |
ooh ok |
| 16:10 |
thexyz |
but too lazy to recover his topics |
| 16:10 |
RealBadAngel |
i do, gloopores will be used in magic branch of technic |
| 16:10 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: maybe they should be just deleted and a sticky added to mod releases which'd be disabled for comments by random people and random lost mods like that would be posted there by moderators |
| 16:10 |
celeron55 |
or something |
| 16:10 |
celeron55 |
it'd be easier to maintain |
| 16:11 |
celeron55 |
but harder to search for |
| 16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
celeron55, ive posted patch with changes, have you seen it? taoki waits for it |
| 16:11 |
iqualfragile |
it would be great to have a real mod-database |
| 16:11 |
iqualfragile |
not just forum-posts |
| 16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 should take care of it |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
someone already did some work on that but im unshure who was |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
celeron55: would you host such an database? |
| 16:12 |
celeron55 |
i'm pretty sure i or thexyz could host it |
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Taoki |
Yeah, still waiting for that patch to go in master |
| 16:14 |
celeron55 |
and yes, there already exists kind of a barebones mod database, but i don't remember the nick of the one who've made it... it's on the forum somewhere |
| 16:15 |
Kacey |
ha epic mega mod idea!!!! |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
celeron55: rubenwardy, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2854 |
| 16:15 |
celeron55 |
Taoki, RealBadAngel: are you aware that there are four people who can both technically and authoritatively merge stuff upstream? |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
found it: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
HOLY SHIT A mc texture pack with this license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1435220-16x14-greatwood-r4j-191012/ |
| 16:16 |
Taoki |
I don't remember everyone, just thexyz and PitzAdam |
| 16:16 |
iqualfragile |
it seems like im 30 secs to late |
| 16:16 |
celeron55 |
darkrose is the third one, and me the fourth |
| 16:17 |
paxcoder |
Jordach, NC = non-free |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
paxcoder - but these textures are |
| 16:18 |
paxcoder |
Jordach, are what? |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
the tp i linked |
| 16:18 |
celeron55 |
RealBadAngel: i still don't like it that you store the bits too |
| 16:19 |
celeron55 |
i guess i'll have to let that through because you insist |
| 16:19 |
thexyz |
Jordach: not as in free beer |
| 16:19 |
paxcoder |
thexyz, what? |
| 16:19 |
paxcoder |
why do you all sound like you don't know the first thing about free culture? |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
paxcoder: he obviously doesn't know what does "free" mean |
| 16:20 |
paxcoder |
thexyz, the back is free as in beer. it's not free as in speech. |
| 16:20 |
paxcoder |
*pack |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
yes, i noticed that |
| 16:20 |
celeron55 |
i always hate "non-commercial" licenses, they are so vague |
| 16:21 |
paxcoder |
<thexyz> Jordach: not as in free beer |
| 16:21 |
paxcoder |
yes as in free beer |
| 16:21 |
paxcoder |
no as in free speech |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
(20:16:53) Jordach: paxcoder - but these textures are |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
well, whatever |
| 16:21 |
* Taoki |
hates licenses because any software should be free :P |
| 16:21 |
paxcoder |
thexyz, :-/ |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
seems that we've just misunderstood each other |
| 16:22 |
paxcoder |
Taoki, copyleft protects your wishes |
| 16:22 |
Taoki |
yup |
| 16:22 |
paxcoder |
PD and permissive don't |
| 16:22 |
Kacey |
oldcoder how do you reset a world by a couple minutes? |
| 16:22 |
Taoki |
thexyz: Did you look at RBA's patch for lua keys? I'm waiting for it in master before I can continue the models |
| 16:24 |
Taoki |
brb however, going away for an hour or two |
| 16:24 |
thexyz |
Taoki: why do you need to have it in master? |
| 16:25 |
paxcoder |
celeron55, does github auto-create the zips you link to, or can you specify which version to make em from? |
| 16:25 |
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| 16:25 |
Taoki |
thexyz: Because my script for player animations needs the new functions\ |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
paxcoder: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/archive/06033cdd6032211d95b41722de43662d0fb097a9.zip |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
Taoki: well, the just merge his changes into your branch |
| 16:26 |
Taoki |
I can do that, but I'd rather wait for them to get in master first since he pull requested it. Feels safer |
| 16:26 |
Taoki |
Anyway BRB |
| 16:26 |
paxcoder |
theDrumm, oh. so it's auto-generates it from the hash i take it? cool, thanks |
| 16:26 |
thexyz |
i'd prefer to change protocol version one time instead of two |
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| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 16:27 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 16:27 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, youre here? |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
youre > you're |
| 16:28 |
paxcoder |
theDrumm, too bad the name can't be generic though |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
you're here? > are you here? |
| 16:28 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 16:28 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Till I'm back, please make a diff of your changes if possible and send it to me. |
| 16:28 |
paxcoder |
Calinou, the second, yeah |
| 16:28 |
Taoki |
ill get it when im back |
| 16:29 |
paxcoder |
thexyz, ^ not theDrumm |
| 16:29 |
* paxcoder |
angrily joins #xchat |
| 16:29 |
celeron55 |
Taoki: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/293.patch |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
xchat ftw |
| 16:30 |
thexyz |
Taoki: you can also add his repo as remote and merge his branch with yours |
| 16:30 |
celeron55 |
git apply should add that cleanly |
| 16:30 |
celeron55 |
with the proper author and so |
| 16:30 |
celeron55 |
i usually use remote repos though |
| 16:31 |
Kacey |
PilzAdam is towntest your mod? |
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| 16:32 |
Penguin |
hey |
| 16:33 |
Kacey |
sup!!! |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
Kacey, i made the NPC |
| 16:33 |
Kacey |
ooh ok what is the orange player thing? |
| 16:34 |
PilzAdam |
that is the NPC |
| 16:34 |
Penguin |
Hi Babyface1031 |
| 16:36 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, *ping* |
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| 16:38 |
Penguin |
kacey what server you on |
| 16:39 |
babyface1031 |
hey penguin |
| 16:40 |
Penguin |
hi babyface what server are you on |
| 16:42 |
Penguin |
??? |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
celeron55, i store bits because im using them |
| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
thx to it i can check if the certain keys were pressed with single check |
| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
for example if player moved |
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| 16:50 |
RealBadAngel |
nobody is forced tables or bits, there are two separate functions to get the controls |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, how are the textures doing? |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
still havent finished them :( |
| 16:51 |
ruskie |
wtf... just found a nyan cat block and a nyan cat rainbow block |
| 16:53 |
rubenwardy |
singular rainbow block? |
| 16:53 |
ruskie |
nyan cat rainbow |
| 16:54 |
rubenwardy |
singular = only one |
| 16:54 |
ruskie |
yup |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 16:54 |
OldCoder |
Somebody rang? |
| 17:08 |
MiJyn |
I'm trying to make a game in pure OpenGL and X11, and I'm wondering if anyone here would have pointers (since this game uses Irrlicht) |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
if you're looking for pointers: 0xDEADBEEF 0x0002 |
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| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
how do i enter [ ] in a forum post? |
| 17:17 |
Zeg9 |
Does \[ \] work ? |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
nm |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
[ ] works |
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| 17:23 |
Penguin |
Hey Babyface1031 OldCoder And everyone |
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| 17:24 |
KikaRz |
Hi ther e:) |
| 17:26 |
Penguin |
What Server You Peoples On |
| 17:26 |
PilzAdam |
localhost :-p |
| 17:26 |
Penguin |
? |
| 17:27 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: FYI, the campaign is largely an attempt to spread the word, more than the features. |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
he means singleplayer |
| 17:27 |
Penguin |
oh |
| 17:27 |
Penguin |
Anyone on multi player |
| 17:27 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: I don't have the skills to offer engine features at the moment, but I might be able to in the future--hopefully some of my time during this period would go towards exploring that |
| 17:28 |
marktraceur |
Taoki: I tried to make it clear that I'd either have a huge success and move towards doing this again, possibly more full-time, or have moderate success and donate half the proceeds to other free game developers (c55 probably included on the list) |
| 17:31 |
OldCoder |
Penguin, Hi! |
| 17:31 |
Penguin |
Hi |
| 17:31 |
Penguin |
How was meeting |
| 17:33 |
KikaRz |
ny server. |
| 17:33 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: And yes, San Francisco is expensive, and software developers in San Francisco are even more expensive :) hopefully this drives some competition, I'd like to see others do it better than I do. |
| 17:33 |
KikaRz |
*my |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
30 seconds poll: Do you like Minetest mods? |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
Y |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
20 seconds |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
10 |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
2 |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
1 |
| 17:34 |
KikaRz |
Y: 2 | N: 0 |
| 17:35 |
KikaRz |
OldCoder |
| 17:35 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, yes? |
| 17:35 |
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| 17:35 |
OldCoder |
Of course I like mods |
| 17:35 |
KikaRz |
Change HOME PAGE: minetest.net to http://minetest.net |
| 17:35 |
OldCoder |
Mods are great |
| 17:35 |
KikaRz |
then itll be easier |
| 17:35 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
| 17:35 |
KikaRz |
just clicking it |
| 17:35 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now STATUS: OldCoder VPS down; he's working on it today | IRC: Be patient in general; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | FOR CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev |
| 17:35 |
KikaRz |
that |
| 17:36 |
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| 17:36 |
Jordach |
good evening FreeFull |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
or: Afternoon |
| 17:38 |
FreeFull |
Hi Jordach |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
17:38 GMT +0 |
| 17:41 |
hmmmm |
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20121122022244_Intel_s_Haswell_Could_Be_Last_Interchangeable_Desktop_Microprocessors_Report.html |
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| 17:41 |
hmmmm |
It's over, PC gaming is finished. |
| 17:42 |
Lumpio- |
why |
| 17:42 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hi |
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| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
playing Minetest with a uncommon size has some strange effects: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3705066589 |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
in inventory |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
the tree at the right is actually realy far away |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
and if you minimize it |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
its the problem |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
IIRC all the things depend on the vertical size of the window |
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| 17:47 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 17:47 |
Kacey |
is c55 still on? |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
why ask? just ask your question.. |
| 17:48 |
Kacey |
it is about something i cannot figure out |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
ask away |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
someone will answer when they know the answer |
| 17:49 |
Kacey |
is it possible to make a player mod that has random AI players that will chat and build as they want? |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
somehow |
| 17:49 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
edit your minetest.conf, add random_input = true |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
start game, connect to a server |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
you move randomly and mine/build stuff randomly |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
thats not a mod |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
you can even attack other players this way :D |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
but you still need to use a client |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
and no chat |
| 17:50 |
Kacey |
but in singleplayer and there is random other players |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
you can do it with a mod |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
you can connect other players to your SP world |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
start up a local server with the "advanced" menu, by putting no address in the address field |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
connect other clients with IP 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
(NOT an empty address, else you can say good bye to your world) |
| 17:52 |
Kacey |
no without other real players and without other clients but AI players |
| 17:52 |
PilzAdam |
its a lot of work, but possible |
| 17:52 |
Kacey |
well we should work on it |
| 17:53 |
PilzAdam |
we!?! no, you |
| 17:53 |
Kacey |
i can barely make a block |
| 17:55 |
Kacey |
random in put is funny |
| 17:59 |
Kacey |
does anyone want to join my server? |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: What mods do you has? |
| 18:01 |
Kacey |
towntest, mailbox, nuke, weegee, and crafting |
| 18:01 |
Kacey |
the last two i made |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: 'crafting'? |
| 18:01 |
Kacey |
a way to make mese and nyancat |
| 18:01 |
Kacey |
but it is in creative mode |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
Oh, right |
| 18:03 |
marktraceur |
Pass |
| 18:04 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131 wishes to run a Windows MT server |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
I am not able to build one ATM. Is there a standard copy he should download? |
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| 18:05 |
bulletrulz |
hi |
| 18:06 |
KikaRz |
and me too OldCoder |
| 18:06 |
KikaRz |
mr Dogzilla131, enter to the github |
| 18:06 |
KikaRz |
wait |
| 18:07 |
KikaRz |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
| 18:08 |
KikaRz |
download the latest |
| 18:08 |
Dogzilla131 |
nut i already have a one |
| 18:09 |
Dogzilla131 |
*but |
| 18:10 |
bulletrulz |
i GOT WIFI AGIAN |
| 18:10 |
KikaRz |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-63e73f2-extrafilters_chkbox-win32.7z (but that is not 0.4.3) |
| 18:10 |
KikaRz |
wlel |
| 18:10 |
KikaRz |
0.4.3 final |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
KikaRz, tank you |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131, do you see this? |
| 18:11 |
OldCoder |
Can use p7zip to unpack that |
| 18:11 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 18:11 |
KikaRz |
i guess |
| 18:11 |
KikaRz |
7zip or WinRAR |
| 18:11 |
OldCoder |
I was commenting to him; I am pretty sure several programs will work |
| 18:11 |
Kacey |
uum towntest failed a little |
| 18:12 |
OldCoder |
When? |
| 18:12 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 18:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, I mean unpacker programs |
| 18:12 |
Kacey |
nvm it was building weird |
| 18:13 |
Kacey |
i was talking about a mod |
| 18:13 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
bulletrulz: this is a debian/trisquel user's catchphrase... |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 18:15 |
bulletrulz |
:D |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
sfan5 |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
whatß |
| 18:15 |
KikaRz |
can you compile a minetest win32 server? |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
*? |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
like that one http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-63e73f2-extrafilters_chkbox-win32.7z ? |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
i need and Dogzilla131 too |
| 18:16 |
sfan5 |
every build contains minetestserver.exe |
| 18:16 |
sfan5 |
it should |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
>Nope |
| 18:16 |
KikaRz |
the latest doesnt |
| 18:16 |
sfan5 |
if it does not use minetest.exe --server |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
shift + right click in bin folder (empty space), "open command line here" |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
minetest.exe --server --worldname <world_name> |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
worldname is needed if your world is not named "world" |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: are you blind? |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 18:17 |
KikaRz |
Calinou |
| 18:17 |
ecube |
or if there are multiple worlds? |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
the latest build contains minetestserver.exe |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
ecube: that too |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: what :P |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: that way of running a server worked just fine for me.. |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
there is no "open command line here" in Windows 7 |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
not sure about XP |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
the way i do it is with shortcuts |
| 18:18 |
KikaRz |
things: Irrlicht.dll ; libogg, libvorbis. libvorbisfile, minetest.exe,mingvm10, OpenAL32, zlibwapi.dll |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
there is |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
if you shift+right click |
| 18:18 |
KikaRz |
Nope |
| 18:18 |
KikaRz |
XP doesnt |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
well then |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
just put: |
| 18:19 |
Kacey |
just open command prompt and cd to the bin folder |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
open command line with "cmd" in Run menu |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
right button in minetest.exe |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
copy |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
cd C:\<path to minetest folder...> |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
create shotcur |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
you can tab complete :) |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
*shortcut |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
or yes, do a shortcut |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
Right button, Properties (in shotcut) |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
or even better, get a real OS |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
then... |
| 18:19 |
Calinou |
XP is terrible |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
minetestfolder > bin > minetest.exe" --server |
| 18:19 |
ecube |
windows is terrible |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
NO IT ISNT |
| 18:19 |
KikaRz |
CALINOU, YOU ARE FIRED! |
| 18:19 |
Kacey |
i needto make the switch to linux |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 18:20 |
ecube |
Kacey: I suggest ubuntu (which is for linux noobs), but if you're pretty good with linux by now, try arch |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
i can't change to linux |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: insecure, unsafe, closed source |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
ecube: lol, harshlinux |
| 18:20 |
ecube |
why not? |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
xubuntu FTW |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
Ubuntu sucks |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
ubuntu without the downsides |
| 18:20 |
Kacey |
i use xubuntu if anything |
| 18:20 |
ecube |
It does, but ubuntu is for noobs |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
Ubuntu lags. |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 18:20 |
ecube |
true |
| 18:20 |
KikaRz |
For old computers, Ubuntu lags a lot |
| 18:20 |
rubenwardy |
can anybody think of anything that this is missing: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52991 |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
with that thing of Unity |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
lighter DE/WM (lets you disable desktop effects, good for games), no amazon :p |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
but its easy for people who don't know linux |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: then use an ubuntu derivative |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
xubuntu is pretty easy to use, polished, fast |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
it does not lag |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
even on my netbook |
| 18:21 |
Kacey |
hhow about turbolinux |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
it only has 1GB ram |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
hehe |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
I hate taht ubuntu derivative. |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
reason? |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
i don't even know how to install xubuntu |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
... Calinou, i got 405 |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
RAM |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
MB |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
lol |
| 18:21 |
KikaRz |
in this pc |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
512mb V_V |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
download ISO, burn to DVD/usb drive (using unetbootin), put USB key, reboot, install |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
it's not hard |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
lol |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
it's like any other *buntu or mint |
| 18:21 |
ecube |
i can only find ubuntu |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: get more ram. |
| 18:22 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, sometimes it helps to restart Minetest completly (closing window) to get the inventory items texture bug fixed |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
you can put more ram if it is a desktop, however it must be compatible... |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
almost all ram sold today is ddr3 |
| 18:22 |
ecube |
well, mint is ok, but it's infected with the ubuntu tangled dependency disease |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Calinou, better: give me a new computer :) |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
go to your local store |
| 18:22 |
ecube |
i can't do anything, almost, unless i uninstall most critical aspects of ubuntu |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
there are a lot of decent computers for a not-so-expensive price |
| 18:22 |
KikaRz |
Away. |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
ecube: you mean, X? :P |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
yep |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
ubuntu has a lot of upsides: fairly up to date packages, stability, large community... noone forces you to use unity though |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
for some reason, my system made X dependant on pulseaudio and some random shit like that |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
unity |
| 18:23 |
thexyz |
gentoo |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
I ended up going to arch |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
<Calinou> ubuntu has a lot of upsides: fairly up to date packages, stability, large community... noone forces you to use unity though - because unity is SHIT |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
lol |
| 18:23 |
ecube |
true |
| 18:24 |
PilzAdam |
Kubuntu |
| 18:24 |
ecube |
archlinux |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
Windows XP 32-Bit Home |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
Jordach: it's not shit, problems are: slow, no way to disable compositing, too many effects, amazon |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
i'm not against amazon "ads" but amazon itself |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
+5 |
| 18:24 |
ecube |
Calinou: yes it is shit |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
it has done very evil things these days |
| 18:24 |
ecube |
cuz they force you to have it |
| 18:24 |
ecube |
and they force you to use pulse |
| 18:24 |
Taoki |
back |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
such as deleting ebooks remotely -- not acceptable |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
pulse is good |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
get a CPU |
| 18:25 |
ecube |
i have a 2 core CPU |
| 18:25 |
Taoki |
marktraceur: Thanks for clearing me up on that. I hope it will be a success :) |
| 18:25 |
ecube |
does that count? |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
yes |
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| 18:25 |
Calinou |
xubuntu here |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
(for the poll) |
| 18:25 |
rubenwardy |
Windows 7 64-Bit Home |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
windows user, FLAME |
| 18:25 |
* Jordach |
high fives rubenwardy |
| 18:25 |
Taoki |
celeron55: Thanks for that link. I will try to apply his patch to my GIT and see how that works. Hopefully we'll have an animated player within the next days :D |
| 18:25 |
Kacey |
windows xp |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 18:25 |
rubenwardy |
I use Ubuntu as well |
| 18:25 |
marktraceur |
Debian GNU/Linux |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
Calinou: Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce PulseAudio as Pu.psh.sAddia...u..psh.. |
| 18:25 |
ecube |
It's not the resource-usage that pulse does, it's the unfriendlyness for the API |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
harshlinux isn't any faster than ubuntu btw |
| 18:25 |
ecube |
it used to be as simple as writing /dev/dsp |
| 18:25 |
ecube |
Calinou: It is for me :P |
| 18:26 |
Kacey |
how do i fixed mixed up inventorie images? |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
ecube: you're doing it wrong if you do stuff "directly" (eg. making a game) |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
it's like using GLX -- wrong |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
Windows XP = DA BEST |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
use SDL. have no issues with "upcoming" stuff |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
such as wayland, pulseaudio |
| 18:26 |
ecube |
lol I do |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
preffer windows XP than windows 7 and 8. |
| 18:26 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
-.- |
| 18:26 |
ecube |
but pulse's API is retarded |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
GLX is like using assembler to make a game |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
ecube: every binary distro forces you to use something |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
this is called "dependencies" |
| 18:26 |
ecube |
I know, but ubuntu has so many of them |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
it's not because something looks "made for harshlinux" users it is better |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
see systemd |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
I love how in C++, one line of wrong code can cause 24 compile errors |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
OldCoder ^^ |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
a lot of people complain about it :) |
| 18:27 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
windows 8 is laughable at |
| 18:27 |
OldCoder |
Oh yes |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
but you're still forced to buy it if you want a decent priced pc |
| 18:27 |
OldCoder |
rubenwardy, my VPS is trashed but I am rebuilding it |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
OS-less computers are too expensive |
| 18:27 |
ecube |
I saw a screenshot at windows 8 and thought, what the hell is this, an ad? |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
manufacturers make money off linux users |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
you can just remove it, FOR THE 500TH TIME SECURE BOOT CAN BE DISABLED ON X86. |
| 18:27 |
thexyz |
http://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/b6b6b6fc.png |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
ecube: no, "this is the future", says the ad's music :) |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 18:28 |
ecube |
btw, i am going to buy an iphone 20 |
| 18:28 |
Kacey |
how may i fix the mixed inventory images? |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
ecube: why an iphone when you can have android? |
| 18:28 |
thexyz |
Kacey: disable texture atlas |
| 18:28 |
ecube |
cuz i'm a jedi |
| 18:28 |
Kacey |
how? |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Kacey: try using opengl instead of direct3d too |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
enable_texture_atlas = false in minetest.conf |
| 18:28 |
Kacey |
i use opengl |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
and for opengl: video_driver = opengl |
| 18:28 |
ecube |
http://mashable.com/2012/09/13/iphone-10/ |
| 18:29 |
thexyz |
Kacey: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3829 |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
Windows 7 areo snap is my favourite thing about Windows 7 |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
(it is how windows snap to the side of the screen and to each other) |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: you should also add this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3823 to faq |
| 18:30 |
ecube |
i don't know how that works |
| 18:30 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: What about ARM |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
ARM are patent trolls :p |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
why would you run a regular linux distro on a tablet anyway... |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
i have yet to see a desktop computer using ARM anyway, or even big laptops |
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| 18:32 |
ecube |
I like the window decorations for windows 7, and that's about it for windows |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
(6:30:16 PM) thexyz: rubenwardy: you should also add this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3823 to faq |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
i dont know what that is |
| 18:35 |
Kacey |
nope inventory images still messed up |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
ecube: it's compositing == eats your GPU |
| 18:36 |
ecube |
I'm not on windows |
| 18:36 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: his CPU probably doesn't support SSE2 (or even SSE), the solution is to use other build (without sse/sse2 instructions) |
| 18:36 |
thexyz |
and now it's time to find such a build |
| 18:38 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
i use direct3d |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
D3D9 is BUGGY WITH irrlicht# |
| 18:38 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
no it isnt |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
direct3D sucks, period |
| 18:38 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
just when you maximize or minimize windows |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
proprietary APIs need to die |
| 18:38 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
shut up calinou |
| 18:38 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
buy me a fucking good graphics card |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
opengl is as fast on modern (2007+) GPUs |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
and works on nearly any platform, thus has less bugs. |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
and it's an open standard, we need to support open standards |
| 18:39 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz-Awaytempl: Telling someone to shut up is a *great* way to make your point, good job |
| 18:39 |
KikaRz-Awaytempl |
calinou is making me sad. |
| 18:40 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: What is he saying to make you sad? |
| 18:40 |
KikaRz |
He wants me to buy a VERY GOOD GAMING COMPUTER |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
KikaRz: a nvidia 9800GT costs like 50 euros and will run most games more than playably :p |
| 18:40 |
KikaRz |
or to enhance my computer at 100% |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
(it's PCI of course, you're out of luck if you only have AGP) |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: His suggestion for hardware makes you sad? |
| 18:41 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 18:41 |
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| 18:41 |
KikaRz |
because i dont have money to enhance my computer |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: So if I suggested that, if you have crooked teeth, orthodontry would help, you would also be sad? |
| 18:41 |
KikaRz |
? o-o? |
| 18:41 |
KikaRz |
dafuq? |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Let me suggest either being less vocal about your irrational sadness or calling a qualified therapist. |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
first: got family problems |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
second: money only for energy, water and food |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
third: got much time for computer, but dont have money to enhance it |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
fourth: my life is only 49,1% good |
| 18:42 |
KikaRz |
now, going to dinner |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
me too, bye |
| 18:44 |
rubenwardy |
New channel idea: #rant |
| 18:45 |
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| 18:49 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, something wrong with europe? |
| 18:50 |
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| 18:50 |
Mika_R |
hi all |
| 18:50 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 18:50 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I will check now |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
Looks O.K. Hold on |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
artur99 is there |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
hmm I was there then suddenly everything stopped loading |
| 18:52 |
Mika_R |
OldCoder, which one is better for an old pc Lubuntu or Xubuntu? |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
and now I can't connect |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, hold on |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Possible lockup |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
But I see no problem |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
I will SIGINT it |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
also I notice that whenever artur99 connects I get insane lag |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
Insane?? |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
odd |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
hold on |
| 18:52 |
Mika_R |
ruskie what server? |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
yeah can't do anything... I lay down 30 blocks maybe thi first and the last will take hold |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
This is consistent? |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
everything else just disapears |
| 18:53 |
babyface1031 |
oh i didnt know europe was up i would of went there |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
only when he's connecting |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
That is very odd |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
when he's on it seems ok |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
Why would a connect from Romania do this? |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, my VPS got trashed |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
I am rebuilding things today |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, could be due to dialup maybe? |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
I may upgrade the server |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, that would slow him down |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
Why would it affect the server? |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Restarting |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, try now |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
But I don't know what happened |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, One moment |
| 18:54 |
ruskie |
now I'm connected |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Lubuntu is lighter |
| 18:55 |
Mika_R |
ok, tried 32bit ubuntu today but it was a bit laggy |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012149 |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, ^ |
| 18:55 |
Mika_R |
thx |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
It will run with 256MB RAM |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
But that is pushing it |
| 18:56 |
Mika_R |
it has 512mb ram and a single core 1ghz cpu |
| 18:56 |
KikaRz |
Ups |
| 18:57 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, try saluki or slax works fine ;) |
| 18:57 |
KikaRz |
bug |
| 18:57 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, artur just rejoined |
| 18:57 |
OldCoder |
Watch for patterns please |
| 18:58 |
ruskie |
I already lagged out immediatly after join |
| 18:58 |
ruskie |
just put some sand in the furnace and that was all that I could do |
| 18:58 |
Mika_R |
ruskie, europe.minetest.org? |
| 18:58 |
ruskie |
I don't get it... my line is idle |
| 18:59 |
ruskie |
Mika_R, yes |
| 18:59 |
Mika_R |
seems like i can't get in on that one |
| 18:59 |
ruskie |
hmm my ping to the server is ~60 |
| 18:59 |
Mika_R |
how did you find that? |
| 18:59 |
ruskie |
just pinged it |
| 18:59 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 19:00 |
ruskie |
and now I can't connect again weird |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
That IS odd |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
No problems I can see |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
20:02:08: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:1036(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=723 |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
I'm getting that |
| 19:02 |
ruskie |
that's not my ip |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 19:02 |
OldCoder |
I'm getting that for multiple IPs |
| 19:03 |
ruskie |
but that one is romanian |
| 19:03 |
OldCoder |
20:01:00: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 77.105.1 |
| 19:03 |
OldCoder |
03.201:35075(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65530 |
| 19:03 |
OldCoder |
That too |
| 19:03 |
ruskie |
finland |
| 19:03 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 19:03 |
Mika_R |
problably me |
| 19:03 |
OldCoder |
Are timeouts for Mika and Artur slowing down the server? |
| 19:04 |
OldCoder |
Should not affect overall but maybe |
| 19:04 |
OldCoder |
I regret I can't build and add debug code presently |
| 19:04 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, i played on the server a month back without bigger problems |
| 19:04 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 19:04 |
OldCoder |
Right now this seems to be mostly Artur |
| 19:05 |
ruskie |
I was on there today all afternoon |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
Could one of you ask him to leave temporarily? |
| 19:05 |
ruskie |
I can't connect |
| 19:05 |
Mika_R |
me neither |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
Hold on |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
I think I'll block his IP |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
at the firewall level |
| 19:05 |
OldCoder |
Let's see what happens |
| 19:05 |
Mika_R |
i think i got all media loaded a while back but when changing window it crashed |
| 19:06 |
OldCoder |
Hate to do this |
| 19:06 |
ruskie |
yeah |
| 19:06 |
OldCoder |
But I see little choice |
| 19:06 |
Mika_R |
how could he get it so slow |
| 19:07 |
OldCoder |
One step at a time |
| 19:07 |
OldCoder |
First we test |
| 19:09 |
OldCoder |
84.20.228.4 |
| 19:09 |
OldCoder |
Where is that one? |
| 19:09 |
ruskie |
that's me |
| 19:09 |
ruskie |
slovenia |
| 19:09 |
OldCoder |
What is port 54079? |
| 19:09 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 19:09 |
OldCoder |
nvm |
| 19:10 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Mika are you able to access at present? |
| 19:10 |
ruskie |
trying to connect |
| 19:10 |
OldCoder |
I'm starting to think I'll need to set up a different VPS and I don't have funds |
| 19:10 |
OldCoder |
I have one in Germany |
| 19:10 |
OldCoder |
How might Germany work for you? |
| 19:10 |
ruskie |
nope I can't connect :( |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Wait |
| 19:11 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, hi |
| 19:11 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
Hi VanessaE |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, restarting again |
| 19:11 |
KikaRz |
How are you ? |
| 19:11 |
ruskie |
ahh |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: pull requests available for your review. |
| 19:11 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Mika_R I may try one in Germany next week |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
I figured out the branches thing. |
| 19:12 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, I have no prob with them in most places |
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| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/45#issuecomment-10639461 |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
and good to see seperated pull requests ;-) |
| 19:15 |
ruskie |
still can't connect |
| 19:15 |
sokomine |
hi everyone :-) |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
lol'd: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53003#p53003 |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: fixing. stand by. |
| 19:15 |
sokomine |
one in germany? server? |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
sokomine, Not yet. I think I can set up one there. |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
Current VPS is suddenly not working. |
| 19:16 |
sokomine |
oh |
| 19:16 |
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| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
MrSparkle, Hi! |
| 19:16 |
Mika_R |
Oldcoder, what is the average price for a VPS? |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, what about now? |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, ranges from free to $100 USD per month |
| 19:17 |
sokomine |
well...the kingarthur server ought to be in germany afaik. the owner's german as are many players |
| 19:17 |
ruskie |
hmm |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I am about to upgrade my EC2 for MT so I can't afford to buy a Europe one |
| 19:17 |
MrSparkle |
O: |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
MrSparkle, hi |
| 19:17 |
ruskie |
still stuck with Connecting to server |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
Sorry |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
MrSparkle, I meant mrtux initially |
| 19:17 |
MrSparkle |
:( |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
MrSparkle, hello to you as well |
| 19:18 |
MrSparkle |
:D |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, You cannot connect? |
| 19:18 |
ruskie |
no |
| 19:18 |
ruskie |
can't |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
MrSparkle, I hope your turkey is tasty if you have some |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I guess I will need a new VPS then |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
Can anybody else connect to: |
| 19:18 |
OldCoder |
europe.minetest.org port 30000 ? |
| 19:18 |
babyface1031 |
i can try |
| 19:19 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, no |
| 19:19 |
* mrtux |
didn't get turkey |
| 19:19 |
MrSparkle |
I hope so too, cause I'll be eating a lot fo it |
| 19:19 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
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| 19:19 |
babyface1031 |
nope :( sorry @OldCoder |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
you know sites like http://stackoverflow.com/ and http://wiki.answers.com/ |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
we should get a similar version of that, but for minetest. It would make answering problems easier |
| 19:19 |
OldCoder |
Odd |
| 19:19 |
OldCoder |
I am going to reboot the VPS |
| 19:20 |
OldCoder |
Rebooting |
| 19:20 |
OldCoder |
Attention: Europe is rebooting. And I guess I must somehow find a new Europe VPS for MT. |
| 19:20 |
OldCoder |
Got to be clear: My funds are limited. |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
Europe will come back in 15 minutes. We will try again then. |
| 19:21 |
OldCoder |
Need to verify that server is still *in* Europe. |
| 19:21 |
sokomine |
there is no need to apologize. you run that many servers already and give a home to servers whose owners no longer can run them. thank you for that! |
| 19:21 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, what's the minimum ram and storage? |
| 19:22 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, well according to geoip it's still Ireland |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 19:22 |
mrtux |
I'm probably able to run my minetest server again now, but I can't play Minetest much anymore |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
ARGH!!!!!!! |
| 19:22 |
mrtux |
makes my pc slow |
| 19:22 |
mrtux |
could just be windows |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
VanessaE ARGH!?! |
| 19:23 |
telek1 |
mrtux: Could be worse, mine keeps hanging or crashing :D |
| 19:23 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I think I'll aim for 1.0GB RAM preferably 1.5GB and 4GB of hard disk preferably 8GB. |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I HATE when people do that |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
telek1, same |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
i know |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
but it is worse |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
but i struggle to find time now :( |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
uses up all my limited memory |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
but |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
could be windows |
| 19:23 |
mrtux |
being a piece of junk |
| 19:23 |
sokomine |
what did he do? |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
mrtux - i think there is a memory limiter |
| 19:24 |
mrtux |
Oh? |
| 19:24 |
mrtux |
Ever since 0 |
| 19:24 |
mrtux |
* |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
Skype |
| 19:24 |
mrtux |
ever since 0.4.3 minetest has been bad with memory |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
MSN |
| 19:24 |
KikaRz |
etc got memory used |
| 19:25 |
Mika_R |
oldcoder, OS? |
| 19:25 |
mrtux |
I don't have programs like msn or skype running at all times |
| 19:25 |
sokomine |
hm. how are the requirements of a minetest server compared to a minecraft one? (classic and..er...the version i can't play anyway?) |
| 19:25 |
mrtux |
just hexchat irc client |
| 19:25 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Debian or Ubuntu |
| 19:25 |
OldCoder |
Generic Debian works quite well |
| 19:25 |
mrtux |
Sokomine, my minecraft server runs fine on 1GB RAM |
| 19:25 |
telek1 |
mrtux: I think it was prior to that, and actually memory usage now is great. Problem is it has a client leak every time you disconnect, and there appears to be issues with either a race or runaway memory condition, possibly caused by mods, possibly internal to the scripting engine. |
| 19:25 |
OldCoder |
64 bit is best |
| 19:25 |
sokomine |
ok. 1 gb is not much |
| 19:26 |
mrtux |
My vps is 64bit |
| 19:26 |
telek1 |
OC: If you have >4gigs yeah, but what benefit below that? |
| 19:26 |
mrtux |
8 cores (intel xeons) |
| 19:26 |
ruskie |
telek1, on linux even 4gb+ is beneficial |
| 19:27 |
ruskie |
it just limits the max ram that an app can be |
| 19:27 |
mrtux |
Also sokomine, Minecraft uses about 700MB of ram on my vps |
| 19:27 |
telek1 |
Ruskie: I was saying above 4 gig 64 bit support is good, but what use is it below that? |
| 19:27 |
mrtux |
isn't bad |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
everyone: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/index.php |
| 19:28 |
Mika_R |
OldCoder, in netherlands it would be 54 dollars for a 1,5gb ram and 80GB disc, or 64 dollars for a 4gb ram and 10 000gb disc |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
^ My website design for minetest |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
can anyone watch the video? |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
it does not work for me |
| 19:28 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, that sounds consistent |
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| 19:29 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, disk could be much smaller |
| 19:29 |
OldCoder |
Bad news. I can't reboot Europe. |
| 19:29 |
ruskie |
:( |
| 19:29 |
OldCoder |
I don't suppose anybody knows how to reach Anunakki |
| 19:29 |
Mika_R |
i found some site that offers pretty cheap |
| 19:30 |
ruskie |
might be something from that time something went wrong? |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, I have no $$$ at all for Europe |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I have some theories |
| 19:30 |
Mika_R |
ok |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
But right now the VPS is gone |
| 19:30 |
mrtux |
There is a site that offers free vps' |
| 19:30 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, he should come around sometime... if I see him I'll push him into your direction |
| 19:30 |
mrtux |
isn't a good service though |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
Not for Europe and it won't work for multiplayer |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Please do thanks |
| 19:30 |
OldCoder |
Otherwise I will try a VPS I have access to in Germany |
| 19:30 |
sokomine |
mika: per month? that sounds expensive |
| 19:31 |
babyface1031 |
@OldCoder you not haveing a good day i hope it gets better |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I mean, I HATE when people say "bye" and then click quit before anyone can even respond |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
aye |
| 19:32 |
Mika_R |
sokomine, i don't know anything about that, just the cheapest a comparison site gave me that were located in europe |
| 19:32 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, ty |
| 19:33 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, hmm you can't restart it or it's not coming back up? because it is responding to pings? |
| 19:33 |
sokomine |
vanessa: ah. people do that a lot :-) in another game it became a challenge to try to wave someone goodby because that player disconnected so fast. nobody ever managed :-( |
| 19:33 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Mika_R I've messaged the head of the VPS firm for Europe |
| 19:33 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I will explain |
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OldCoder |
ruskie, I am not sure but I think I locked myself out by enabling ufw; a firewall. I didn't think it would be disable all access by default but it may be. |
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| 19:33 |
OldCoder |
Not sure why pings work though |
| 19:33 |
ruskie |
ahh |
| 19:34 |
OldCoder |
Not consistent |
| 19:34 |
sokomine |
hm, i heared about a simple v-server (only 0.5 gb ram guaranteed) for 7.50 euro/month |
| 19:34 |
ruskie |
no remote console access? |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: where?? |
| 19:34 |
OldCoder |
Anunakki would be the only one who would know |
| 19:34 |
ruskie |
ahh |
| 19:34 |
sokomine |
strato |
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| 19:34 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, that is just a guess. Why is ping working when ssh does not? |
| 19:34 |
OldCoder |
Not consistent |
| 19:34 |
Penguin |
Hi |
| 19:34 |
ruskie |
maybe the default ruleset doesn't block ICMP |
| 19:35 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 19:35 |
OldCoder |
Odd?! |
| 19:35 |
ruskie |
expected |
| 19:35 |
OldCoder |
If anybody sees Anunakki send him my way |
| 19:35 |
ruskie |
will do |
| 19:35 |
OldCoder |
ty |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: actually it's 1GB RAM and it's about 12.26 euros/mo |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
(just looked it up) |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
still, that's easily competitive with regular shared hosting plans |
| 19:36 |
sokomine |
there are several offers |
| 19:37 |
babyface1031 |
hi Penguin |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
may be a difference in price depending on region from which the web page request originates/. |
| 19:37 |
Mika_R |
sokomine, what do you think about tilaa.com? |
| 19:37 |
sokomine |
http://www.strato.de/server/virtual-linux-server/ lists it |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm looking at their offers, cheapest is £9.90 |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
ah yes, that's why, I had the english page open :-) |
| 19:38 |
sokomine |
never heared of that, but i havn't looked that detailed into hosting recently |
| 19:38 |
* Jordach |
could pay for that |
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| 19:38 |
sokomine |
strange |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
woah IPV6 |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
damn it I need to brush up on my German :-) |
| 19:39 |
sokomine |
don't forget to read the small print though. in germany many things (mobile phone contracts, hosting services etc.) are offered for 0 or 1 euro and the details hidden in very small print |
| 19:40 |
sokomine |
do you really think it's cheaper here than in the us? that would be strange |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
very much so. |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
a good VPA in the states seems to be around US $30. |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
VPS* |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - hmm, im looking for a decent host in the UK |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
anyway, gotta run. Time to start cooking thanksgiving dinner :-) |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
sweet |
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| 19:42 |
telek1 |
Wish you could get decent symmetric connections to the home. |
| 19:42 |
telek1 |
Cheapest I've seen is T1 speeds for 400+ a month. |
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Jordach |
telek1 - if i had some form of access to my uncles 100mb fibre server |
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| 19:43 |
Jordach |
(which is endless btw) |
| 19:43 |
Jordach |
i could easily setup a mt server |
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sokomine |
hm. what exactly is "vpa"? |
| 19:46 |
Doc22 |
hello |
| 19:46 |
Doc22 |
who is a good modder |
| 19:46 |
babyface1031 |
Hi Doc22 |
| 19:46 |
Doc22 |
I am trying to use PseuduRandom |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
local obj = PseudoRandom(seed) |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
is this correct? |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
It throws an error |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
saying that PseudoRandom is a nill value |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
okay, im somewhat awesome: i got a private beta entry for soundcloud! |
| 19:47 |
sokomine |
well, what kind of error? and obj seems to be a strange name for a variable that most likely will hold a number |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
and hi babyface1031 |
| 19:47 |
Doc22 |
yeah |
| 19:48 |
Doc22 |
I just gave that as example |
| 19:48 |
Doc22 |
the real name is num |
| 19:48 |
Doc22 |
it says "cant find global PseudoRandom (a nil value)" |
| 19:48 |
Doc22 |
err |
| 19:48 |
Doc22 |
attempt to call global Pseu... |
| 19:49 |
sokomine |
did you include that code that adds this function somehow? |
| 19:49 |
Doc22 |
no it says in the api that it can be called |
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| 19:49 |
sokomine |
well, maybe math.Pseudorandom or something like that |
| 19:49 |
Doc22 |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt line 1181 |
| 19:49 |
Doc22 |
idk what it would be |
| 19:50 |
Doc22 |
I am using this for a plant that grows randomly |
| 19:50 |
Doc22 |
it would be if num.next() < max then |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
grow -x |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
if num.next < max then |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
grow -z |
| 19:51 |
sokomine |
ah, ok, so it's something minetest-specific |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
the y axis |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
yes |
| 19:51 |
Doc22 |
it just goes down to dirt |
| 19:52 |
Doc22 |
I need this to make it grow randomly |
| 19:52 |
KikaRz |
hey |
| 19:52 |
KikaRz |
who knows an external mapping too? |
| 19:52 |
KikaRz |
*tool |
| 19:52 |
sokomine |
ah, ok. have a look at moreores. that seems to use it as well |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
there is not one as of yet |
| 19:53 |
Doc22 |
ok I will |
| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
ARQW$)R"/(=#YR$% |
| 19:53 |
KikaRz |
i want a external mapper :( |
| 19:53 |
sokomine |
external mapping tool? one that draws a map of the map? search for minetestmapper or the mod map |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
sokomine - not like that |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
actual editing like gimp 2.x |
| 19:54 |
sokomine |
aah |
| 19:54 |
sokomine |
well...er...that's done ingame? :-) |
| 19:55 |
Doc22 |
hmm' |
| 19:55 |
Doc22 |
they init it the same way |
| 19:55 |
Doc22 |
local pr = PseudoRandom(seed) |
| 19:55 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 19:55 |
KikaRz |
sokomine, a editor. |
| 19:56 |
KikaRz |
not a mapper that draws a map of the map . |
| 19:56 |
Doc22 |
oh :P |
| 19:56 |
Doc22 |
typo |
| 19:56 |
Doc22 |
I HATE TYPOS |
| 19:57 |
sokomine |
hm. what do you intend to edit? what shall it do? |
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Doc22 |
now it is saying that I need to supply userdata to the .next function |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
... sokomine, its to edit a map |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
like... making it flat... |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
etc |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
simple script |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
for x < map.max |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
for y < map.maxy |
| 20:00 |
sokomine |
doc: guess it wants a range? something like pr:next( range_start, range_end ) |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
err replace z with y |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
I tried that. |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
OHHH |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
i was doing pr.next |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
and then you go down the z axis |
| 20:00 |
sokomine |
kika: ah. hm. for making it flat there are some mods. but they are rather slow. or worldedit for smaller regions |
| 20:00 |
Doc22 |
until you hit a block |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:01 |
Doc22 |
then put a color down for it |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
sokomine, ... |
| 20:01 |
sokomine |
well...a good way to do something on the database level would be nice, yes |
| 20:01 |
KikaRz |
when will someone create a map editor ? (shut up sokomine please) |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
hmmmm |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
you could take the map |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
and put it into layers |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
Like mcedit |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
then edit it in gimp |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
something that inputs a .png as the map |
| 20:02 |
Doc22 |
for the chunks |
| 20:02 |
Mika_R |
KikaRz why not mine it down? |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
Mika_R, not that |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
MAKING IT FLAT |
| 20:03 |
Doc22 |
that would require a 3rd party program for something like mcedit i think |
| 20:03 |
Doc22 |
ohhhhhhh |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
---|''''|___---|-||___|'''| |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
thati s not flat |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
________________ <- That is flat |
| 20:03 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 20:03 |
Doc22 |
you could make a mod that does this when you place a certain block |
| 20:03 |
Mika_R |
yes, you select a good area and start digging, eventually you're going to be on the level you want |
| 20:05 |
* ruskie |
did just that today for his pyramid |
| 20:05 |
telek1 |
We just need NPCs and a worldedit style mod to do it :D |
| 20:05 |
telek1 |
Select X Y Z endpoints, tell your NPCs to clear the area :D |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
Mika |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
if my computer were goot |
| 20:05 |
KikaRz |
*good |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
i was doing that |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
i can use WorldEdit, but idk. |
| 20:06 |
KikaRz |
idk what to do |
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| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
i know |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
-.- |
| 20:07 |
KikaRz |
but too laggy |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
celeron55, got a idea for you |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
try to make a flat world option |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
then itll generate a world with 4 nodes of height |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
| |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
| |
| 20:08 |
KikaRz |
| |
| 20:09 |
telek1 |
KikaRz: there's already a mod to do that. |
| 20:09 |
Mika_R |
A map that would be flat about 1000 blocks each direction from the center would be nice on a server, would give possibilities to nice capitals |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
What mod? |
| 20:09 |
KikaRz |
Mika_r... |
| 20:10 |
telek1 |
Look it up, it's in the mod release forum. |
| 20:10 |
KikaRz |
(why people are too ... UGHREUHRFWE/)RY# |
| 20:10 |
ruskie |
KikaRz, I believe it's called flatlands or something |
| 20:10 |
ruskie |
would be nice to have: mountainous, hilly, flat, lowlands, canyon options when creating a world and set what you want |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/ |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
(8:09:41 PM) Mika_R: A map that would be flat about 1000 blocks each direction from the center would be nice on a server, would give possibilities to nice capitals |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
Use world edit command //dig to make it flat |
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| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
no |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
Rubenwardy |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
itll make everything go done back. |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
going try to use worldedit |
| 20:12 |
KikaRz |
it lags my computer |
| 20:13 |
KikaRz |
telek1, you got steam, skype, msn , something? |
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Jordach |
hmm, somewhat more close to a final mc pack |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
(yes, my permission is FULLY granted for mt usage) |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, ruskie, Mika_R I will try to create a German VPS before the end of the month |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Again if anybody sees Anunakki send him to me |
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sokomine |
hm. a world that would be flat by default - without having to edit it - would be helpful sometimes. especially for building projects |
| 20:20 |
ruskie |
sokomine, wouldn't a no-content world be better then? |
| 20:20 |
sokomine |
i think the database- or codelevel might be better suited for that than mods. mods are really slow... |
| 20:20 |
KikaRz |
|
| 20:21 |
Mika_R |
sokomine, need some caves and stuff like that but the steep should be limited so there wouldn't be walls 10-20 blocks high |
| 20:21 |
sokomine |
not necessarily. the world i find most comftable for building is one which is flat with dirt with grass on top, dirt beneath and streets already part of the map |
| 20:21 |
Mika_R |
OldCoder, you busy? |
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* ruskie |
prefers building underground in tune with the lay of the land and above ground same mostly |
| 20:22 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Pretty much but go ahead |
| 20:22 |
Mika_R |
ill PM |
| 20:22 |
sokomine |
the caves are a problem in themselves. looks bad if you import a minecraft map and half the building's griefed away by a mapgen-cave (looks like those mapgen-cave-holes on redcrabs server) |
| 20:22 |
telek1 |
KikaRz: IRC or bust. |
| 20:23 |
KikaRz |
what? |
| 20:23 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, it shouldn't be impossible for them to disable ufw or give some sort of remote access I'd think |
| 20:23 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 20:23 |
telek1 |
KikaRz: IRC and that's it. |
| 20:23 |
KikaRz |
omg |
| 20:23 |
sokomine |
mapgen might start further away...say, at a depth of 100. i wouldn't mind it there. the additional benefit would be that mapgen might be much faster because all those hills and coasts and stuff and even trees would not have to be generated |
| 20:23 |
KikaRz |
Can you guys please stop blipping me? |
| 20:24 |
KikaRz |
I've got sound in minetest *-* |
| 20:25 |
KikaRz |
may i delete all mods and just keep worldedit? |
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sokomine |
yes. any nodes from mods you had installed previously will then appear strange ("unknown block") ingame. but that doesn't matter much. just ignore them |
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KikaRz |
sokomine, shut the hell up. |
| 20:26 |
KikaRz |
im tired of hearing you saying robotic things |
| 20:26 |
KikaRz |
thats annoying |
| 20:26 |
paxcoder |
if both kray's and gameboom's server are dead, then minetest is - at least for some of us - dead |
| 20:26 |
Jordach |
paxcoder - try redcrabs server |
| 20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
Robotic sentences are helpful. Robotic sentences are help and no fun. Robotic sentences are all work and no help. Robotic... |
| 20:27 |
Dogzilla131 |
does sombody know how to forward a port in a netgar USB |
| 20:27 |
paxcoder |
Jordach, i have. i don't remember which one that is though |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
0.4.3 |
| 20:27 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, ? |
| 20:27 |
* telek1 |
waves and afks for turkey day. |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
yeah, have a good thanksgiving |
| 20:27 |
sokomine |
i've forgotten how igno works :-( does anyone remember? might help kikarz and me to ignore each other in the future |
| 20:27 |
khonkhortisan |
- with reference to what KikiRz said about sokomine's sentences |
| 20:27 |
paxcoder |
Doc22, did you try dsldevice.lan or 193* to get the webui? |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 20:28 |
khonkhortisan |
and the all work and no play screensaver I have |
| 20:28 |
Doc22 |
try what? |
| 20:28 |
Doc22 |
webui? |
| 20:28 |
paxcoder |
Doc22, dude |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I have messaged the head of that host |
| 20:28 |
Doc22 |
i dont remember things as well when im concentrating on something lol |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, But even aside from the lockout you were having troubles connecting |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I may need to set up a "real" VPS |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
in Europe |
| 20:28 |
paxcoder |
Doc22, O.O |
| 20:28 |
telek1 |
Thanks Jordach. |
| 20:29 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 20:29 |
khonkhortisan |
Has anyone heard of codecademy? If it's any good, I might use it to teach someone else. |
| 20:29 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, we will see... if nothing else getting the world off of it would help |
| 20:29 |
Doc22 |
wait you were trying to play wiht me |
| 20:29 |
Doc22 |
right |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, so: (1) I need to speak with Anunakki (2) I will look into a German VPS I have access to (3) If others will volunteer VPS that will be good |
| 20:29 |
Doc22 |
and i was trying to fix it right |
| 20:29 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, they aren't free as in beer (or freedom) |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
yes Code Academy is good |
| 20:29 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131, Need to know if there is a router in the house |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, what do you want to teach that other person? |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
or rather what do you want him/her to learn? |
| 20:30 |
khonkhortisan |
basic coding stuff (as much as their patience will permit) |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, see coursera.org |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
they have beginner courses |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
also udacity.com |
| 20:30 |
paxcoder |
they have 101 CS classes |
| 20:30 |
Doc22 |
im sorry lol |
| 20:31 |
Doc22 |
i just have trouble remembering when i am trying to figure something out |
| 20:31 |
khonkhortisan |
cool |
| 20:31 |
paxcoder |
Doc22, you have trouble trolling. you're not very good |
| 20:31 |
Doc22 |
srsly |
| 20:31 |
Doc22 |
im not trolling |
| 20:31 |
paxcoder |
ys |
| 20:31 |
Doc22 |
i forgot |
| 20:32 |
paxcoder |
did you remember? |
| 20:32 |
khonkhortisan |
so an experienced troller could troll people by annoying everyone by how bad of a troller they are |
| 20:32 |
Doc22 |
no |
| 20:32 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 20:32 |
Doc22 |
im not trying to troll |
| 20:32 |
Doc22 |
i just cant remember cuz im focused on something |
| 20:32 |
paxcoder |
khonkhortisan, trolls can do their thing a lot of ways |
| 20:32 |
paxcoder |
all equally pointless and dumb |
| 20:33 |
paxcoder |
Doc22, you remind me of a comedy dub i once watched of enterprise (the lame one, not TOS nor TNG). "I can't hear when I'm walking". |
| 20:33 |
Doc22 |
ughh |
| 20:33 |
Doc22 |
if you want my conversation |
| 20:33 |
Doc22 |
spark my memory |
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* paxcoder |
takes a defibrillator |
| 20:34 |
Doc22 |
:/ |
| 20:35 |
khonkhortisan |
Thanks xyzz! |
| 20:35 |
KikaRz |
now |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
after cleaning of that nodes that i was wanting flat.... |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
my computer dont answers. |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
(minetest.) |
| 20:36 |
KikaRz |
removing mods. |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
going to make... |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
a parkour map ? |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
no. |
| 20:37 |
KikaRz |
a thing map |
| 20:39 |
khonkhortisan |
They stole my picture from gravatar and didn't tell me where they got it from |
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| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
Back :D |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
now in XChat |
| 20:40 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Clan! |
| 20:40 |
marktraceur |
ER |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
Clan? |
| 20:40 |
KikaRz |
o_o' |
| 20:41 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Gratz! |
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* khonkhortisan |
<- Type of variable has changed to user due to reading a message |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
* khonkhortisan <- Type of variable has changed to user due to reading a message |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
like, dafuq? |
| 20:41 |
khonkhortisan |
you should know |
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khonkhortisan |
* KikaRz has quit (Quit: Did you know that... if you are reading this message, you are a user?) |
| 20:41 |
KikaRz |
lol |
| 20:41 |
* KikaRz |
is so awesome, that the new users fall into my joke. |
| 20:42 |
* KikaRz |
is so awesome, that the new users fall into her joke. |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
fail |
| 20:42 |
khonkhortisan |
^ new user |
| 20:42 |
khonkhortisan |
hehe |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
Nope |
| 20:42 |
telek1 |
KikaRz is teh fail :D |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
im in IRC at 6 years ago |
| 20:42 |
telek1 |
KikaRz: Talk to you prolly tomorrow. |
| 20:42 |
khonkhortisan |
than I'm newer |
| 20:42 |
* telek1 |
reAFKs |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
ok, kisses |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
"test" |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
*test* |
| 20:43 |
KikaRz |
ok |
| 20:51 |
Doc22 |
hrmmm |
| 20:51 |
Doc22 |
if minetest.env:get_node(pos).name=="air" works |
| 20:52 |
Doc22 |
and so does if minetest.env:get_node(pos).name=="farming:plowed" |
| 20:52 |
Doc22 |
but not if minetest.env:get_node(pos).name=="dirt" |
| 20:52 |
Doc22 |
or if minetest.env:get_node(pos).name=="default:dirt" |
| 20:52 |
Doc22 |
anything wrong with my code? |
| 20:53 |
Doc22 |
what does minetes.env:get_node(pos).name return if it is dirt |
| 20:53 |
khonkhortisan |
dirt_with_grass |
| 20:53 |
thexyz |
poor US; https://torrentfreak.com/police-raid-9-year-old-pirate-bay-girl-confiscate-winnie-the-pooh-laptop-121122/ |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
dirt_with_grass |
| 20:53 |
Doc22 |
yeah i tried that |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
om |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
omg |
| 20:53 |
KikaRz |
LOL |
| 20:53 |
khonkhortisan |
you need to allow both dirt and dirt_with_grass, depending on what you're doing |
| 20:53 |
Doc22 |
if minetest.env:get_node(pos).name=="dirt_with_grass" then |
| 20:53 |
Doc22 |
i also have that with dirt |
| 20:54 |
khonkhortisan |
don't even need to click the link to get the story |
| 20:54 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
hey |
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KikaRz |
whats water id? |
| 20:54 |
Doc22 |
khonkortisan what is wrong with my code |
| 20:54 |
Doc22 |
default:water_source |
| 20:54 |
khonkhortisan |
name = minetest.env:get_node(pos).name if name=="dirt" or name=="dirt_with_grass" then |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
i tried default:water and water (only). |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
KikaRz: default:water_source or default:water_flowing |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
depends on what do you need |
| 20:54 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 20:55 |
khonkhortisan |
what is it supposed to do? |
| 20:55 |
Doc22 |
check if a block is either dirt or grassk |
| 20:55 |
Doc22 |
grass |
| 20:55 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah that should work |
| 20:56 |
Doc22 |
hmmm |
| 20:56 |
Doc22 |
ill try it |
| 21:00 |
KikaRz |
hate my computer |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
it lags a lot |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
to process a block |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
it takes 2 minutes |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
to break a block and appear in console |
| 21:02 |
KikaRz |
it takes 3 minutes |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
to process a command |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
it takes 6 minutes |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
hate this lag |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
No |
| 21:03 |
KikaRz |
Single player |
| 21:03 |
Mika_R |
KikaRz seems to work here at least |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
|
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
Attention |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds are up except for 30004 Octuteam |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
Please play and report damage |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
Europe remains down until I can speak with Anunakki |
| 21:04 |
OldCoder |
|
| 21:06 |
Doc22 |
khonkhortisan it somehow sets off for every node type |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
night all |
| 21:08 |
OldCoder |
Night |
| 21:11 |
Mika_R |
brb |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
so, when will launch 3D player mod? |
| 21:23 |
Doc22 |
next update |
| 21:23 |
Doc22 |
idk when that is |
| 21:24 |
Doc22 |
khonkhortisan whenever I try the comparisan with dirt_with_grass it counts any other block also |
| 21:24 |
Doc22 |
for instance, air |
| 21:24 |
Doc22 |
it will return true |
| 21:24 |
Doc22 |
but not if I leave out the dirt_with_grass comparison |
| 21:24 |
Doc22 |
what could cause this |
| 21:32 |
Doc22 |
ahhh |
| 21:32 |
Doc22 |
nvm |
| 21:33 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 21:34 |
Taoki |
KikaRz: The code for 3D players is ready, just some scripting left to do |
| 21:34 |
Taoki |
I actually need help with something rioght now, if anyone knows lua and is willing |
| 21:34 |
KikaRz |
yea |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
its going to be a PNG? |
| 21:35 |
Taoki |
yeah |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
or blender? (I CANT INSTALL BLENDER) |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
Skin from Minecraft? |
| 21:35 |
Taoki |
Mesh is done in blender, texture is png |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
i got my skin created |
| 21:35 |
Taoki |
Feel free to test it on the minecraft model, it's compatible |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
:) |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
my skin is so cool |
| 21:35 |
Taoki |
lol |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: Hypothermia? :P |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
(taking things out of context: funny 100% of the time) |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
?? |
| 21:38 |
KikaRz |
that is? |
| 21:38 |
marktraceur |
KikaRz: "my skin is so cool" sounds like you may have hypothermia |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
if i was saying cold |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
that is hypothermia |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
cold, not coal |
| 21:39 |
Taoki |
:D |
| 21:39 |
KikaRz |
*cool |
| 21:40 |
sokomine |
taoki: that sounds great! |
| 21:42 |
sokomine |
what is your problem with the lua part? maybe you could just ask and hope for someone to be able to help |
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paxcoder |
why doesn't john_minetest /join #minetest again? |
| 21:54 |
paxcoder |
geddit geddit? |
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| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
People |
| 22:15 |
KikaRz |
are you there? |
| 22:16 |
Dogzilla131 |
yes |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
tomorrow: 3D Skin *-* |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 22:22 |
KikaRz |
People |
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KikaRz |
marktraceur |
| 22:23 |
KikaRz |
does the 3D skin mod let us use the minecraft one? |
| 22:32 |
OldCoder |
World 30004 Octuteam is back online and healthy |
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Uberi |
so how's everyone doing this lovely fine day? |
| 22:41 |
jin_xi |
hi there |
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OldCoder |
Uberi, Hi! |
| 22:52 |
Uberi |
hey OldCoder |
| 23:27 |
Taoki |
sokomine: I got my previous problem solved. Will liik into the rest tomorrow |
| 23:27 |
Taoki |
*look |
| 23:28 |
Taoki |
I estimate that by tomorrow player animations will be complete, and the entire player patch for now |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
wow |
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OldCoder |
Muadtralk, Hi |
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