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| 00:15 |
sokomine |
hi mauvebic |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
hey |
| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
whats new? |
| 00:15 |
Uberi |
hey mauvebic |
| 00:17 |
Muadtralk |
Ah muavebic you missed it? the world has been taken over by mutant turkeys and they just dropped the neutron bomb on the south pole. |
| 00:17 |
Uberi |
darn, not again |
| 00:17 |
mauvebic |
lol ive been nuking a map all afternoon |
| 00:18 |
Muadtralk |
oh and it seems it was a quiet day for minetest, xyzz commited something 4 hours ago. |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
dunno my old tower has the later version since my old drive died |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
and the textures are all fucked up |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
*latest |
| 00:19 |
mauvebic |
everyone shows as leaves lol |
| 00:19 |
Muadtralk |
COOL |
| 00:20 |
mauvebic |
so for warfare, what kindof weapons are essential? |
| 00:20 |
Muadtralk |
care to show me how to reproduce that bug? |
| 00:20 |
Uberi |
guns! |
| 00:20 |
Uberi |
well, that's all I think are essential, really |
| 00:20 |
mauvebic |
well i got the plasma rifle (rapid fire 5 shots) the grenade launcher and the battlefield nuke launcher, anything missing? |
| 00:20 |
Uberi |
plus bullets, guns are not very useful without bullets |
| 00:20 |
Uberi |
except maybe as a club |
| 00:20 |
mauvebic |
plasma rifle no need bullets, is power :p |
| 00:21 |
Uberi |
and a poor club at that |
| 00:21 |
Uberi |
nope, I don't think there's anything missing :) |
| 00:21 |
Muadtralk |
why we need laser swords as well |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
ooo the little knives old soliders put ontheir guns! |
| 00:21 |
Muadtralk |
baonettes? |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
baonettes! yes |
| 00:21 |
* Muadtralk |
spelling fail. |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
bayonettes? |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
wtv lol |
| 00:21 |
Uberi |
bayonettes? |
| 00:22 |
Uberi |
yeah |
| 00:22 |
Muadtralk |
yes |
| 00:23 |
mauvebic |
anyways the plasma rifle should be ready by tomorrow thats pretty cool by itself lol |
| 00:23 |
mauvebic |
if the first energy bullet doesnt get em, the next 4 will lol |
| 00:26 |
uzver |
PLASMA RIFLE? |
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| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
yeah like in star trek lol |
| 00:27 |
Fixer |
seriously, can i request some artillery and ak47 please? |
| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
tanks are impossible but turrents are |
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| 00:50 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It would be cool to have smoke grenades or similar, and smoke effects on most gunpowder-based weapons. Should be possible if I'm not mistaken. |
| 00:51 |
Uberi |
hey marktraceur, what's this I hear about a conveyor belt mod? :P |
| 00:51 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: It's part of the industry modpack, which is more convenient because it pulls in all of the dependencies |
| 00:51 |
Uberi |
I can't wait |
| 00:51 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I'm going to make a factory mod right now, then make an official-sauce release tarball |
| 00:52 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: You don't have to wait! http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3804 |
| 00:52 |
Uberi |
\o/ |
| 00:52 |
marktraceur |
...unless you can't use git, in which case you might have to wait |
| 00:52 |
marktraceur |
Calinou made an unofficial release, but I can't say it's perfect |
| 00:52 |
Uberi |
oh do you have a GitHub mirror? |
| 00:52 |
marktraceur |
No, Gitorious only |
| 00:52 |
Uberi |
ah, OK |
| 00:53 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Why do you ask for GitHub specifically? |
| 00:54 |
Uberi |
well, it's easy for me to see commits/activity from my feed |
| 00:55 |
marktraceur |
Ah. You should be able to follow Gitorious activity in much the same way. |
| 00:56 |
* marktraceur |
goes to grab coffee, then will make the factories |
| 00:56 |
Uberi |
of course, yes |
| 00:57 |
Uberi |
oops forgot to update submodules |
| 00:58 |
Uberi |
can I make a suggestion, marktraceur? |
| 00:58 |
* khonkhortisan |
: Ping Returned |
| 00:58 |
Uberi |
you used the GPLv3 license, but MineTest mods are run on the server side |
| 00:58 |
Uberi |
if you aim to protect the freedom of the software, there's a loophole in the GPL that is fixed by the AGPLv3 |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
just want to mention that |
| 00:59 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I'm aware of it, but this community is already put off by GPL |
| 00:59 |
Uberi |
I see |
| 00:59 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I may relicense in the future, but I haven't made that determination yet. |
| 01:00 |
Uberi |
I can tell you that it's worked quite well with WorldEdit though :) |
| 01:00 |
Uberi |
oh I like the idea of the transactor |
| 01:00 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: That's really the only functional part of the modpack so far, other than the rubber collector (which I didn't mention in the forum post, but will add now) |
| 01:01 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur smoke effects can be tricky, are we talking nodes or entities? |
| 01:02 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It would almost certainly need to be nodes. Just define a node "air_smoky", add it in a small mod (so other mods can use it easily), and maybe make a nice little function to make a smoke cloud of radius X around a point. |
| 01:03 |
mauvebic |
for nukes i uses toruses but yeah it would look nicer in smoke than in fire |
| 01:03 |
Uberi |
that sounds pretty compute-intensive |
| 01:03 |
mauvebic |
naw |
| 01:03 |
mauvebic |
a torus full of fire or full of smoke is the same to the CPU |
| 01:03 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Bonus points if you calculate the volume of smoke from the radius and make up for solid nodes blocking you by increasing the radius appropriately (since smoke wouldn't just disappear, it would move somewhere else) |
| 01:04 |
mauvebic |
well the mushroom bit of the mushroom cloud would evaporate, but the groundblast details i have yet to work out |
| 01:04 |
Uberi |
and the block durability for the blast could also be applied to the TNT mod |
| 01:04 |
Uberi |
right now TNT can destroy any node |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
tricky thing for the nuke is: default fire only burns wood/trees |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
i use "plasmafire" for nukes that burns through almost anything |
| 01:05 |
mauvebic |
because a nuke doesn't care if your house is metallic or wood lol |
| 01:06 |
mauvebic |
i could practically use a custom fire and smoke node for nukes |
| 01:06 |
Uberi |
forum search implemented! http://www.autohotkey.net/paste/16bs2i1 |
| 01:06 |
Uberi |
oh sorry wrong channel |
| 01:06 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Updated forum post to include rubber_collector, hopefully you're as happy about that as I was |
| 01:07 |
Uberi |
you mean like, rubber trees? |
| 01:07 |
Uberi |
oh hey that's a good idea |
| 01:07 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: rubber is included in the modpack, that's what adds rubber trees |
| 01:08 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: rubber_collector and rubber_sheet just give it some more form |
| 01:08 |
marktraceur |
(thank VanessaE for the rubber_sheet idea) |
| 01:08 |
Uberi |
I can see this adding a lot to gameplay |
| 01:08 |
mauvebic |
rubber sheets |
| 01:08 |
mauvebic |
i think i have texture in old modpack |
| 01:08 |
mauvebic |
looks like a roll |
| 01:08 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I used VanessaE's texture for plastic sheets and played with the darkness :) |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
works too |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
though if you need more textures my first modpack had a bunch of electricity stuff |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
my second modpacks all wireless now |
| 01:09 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I suspect I don't.....I'll need to make something vaguely factory-like, but that shouldn't be too hard. |
| 01:09 |
mauvebic |
steampunk style? |
| 01:10 |
Uberi |
that reminds me, I need to fix wireless mesecons eventually |
| 01:10 |
marktraceur |
Actually, question: A lot of people make nodeboxes with like....half nodes, quarter nodes....what about double or triple nodes? |
| 01:10 |
marktraceur |
Should be possible, right? |
| 01:10 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: I've tried, didn't work with nodes |
| 01:10 |
marktraceur |
Hrm. |
| 01:10 |
Uberi |
but it did work with entities with visual_scale |
| 01:10 |
mauvebic |
i think nodeboxes can overlap yes |
| 01:10 |
mauvebic |
ive seen iot |
| 01:10 |
marktraceur |
Well, single node should be fine |
| 01:10 |
Uberi |
yeah they can overlap but can't seem to go outside the bounds by much |
| 01:10 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur are you french or quebecois? |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Moi, je suis americain. |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: "traceur" is a description of my hobby, Parkour. |
| 01:11 |
mauvebic |
ahhh lol sounded like a french name lol |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I'm French by night, Swedish/Irish American by day. |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
It's a complicated life. |
| 01:12 |
mauvebic |
lol well my real family name is Cloutier |
| 01:12 |
Uberi |
he's the hero we deserve |
| 01:12 |
mauvebic |
doesnt get more french then that lol |
| 01:12 |
Uberi |
but not the one we need |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: A Swedish/Irish American? Boy, nobody deserves that kind of hero. Crime would skyrocket. |
| 01:13 |
marktraceur |
"Who's the superhero in this city?" "Lefse man" "We are going to OWN that guy" |
| 01:13 |
Uberi |
:P |
| 01:13 |
marktraceur |
(and silence ensues as people go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefse ) |
| 01:14 |
Uberi |
oh now you just made me hungry |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
how many languages you know so far? |
| 01:15 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I just made lefse today, too, it's a Thanksgiving tradition in my family |
| 01:15 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Me? Computer languages or human ones? |
| 01:15 |
mauvebic |
computer lol |
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| 01:16 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I can speak with our digital friends in roughly 9 languages |
| 01:17 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But some of those I count as half-knowing because I (for example) did a few hacks and then moved on |
| 01:17 |
marktraceur |
7 are solid |
| 01:17 |
mauvebic |
to me php and python are nearly the same |
| 01:17 |
mauvebic |
lua is alot like php too actually lol |
| 01:18 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Lua and JavaScript are a lot more similar, if you're doing it "right" in both |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
i can hack the cpp mapgen, but dont ask me to do more in c++ lol |
| 01:18 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But "right" is a very subjective term |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
javascript(ajax) and css too but webdesign is so bleh these days |
| 01:18 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I agree....my C++ skills are mostly academic (I was a C++ tutor for 3 years, I can get you through an intro to C++ class with an A+, but don't ask me to write anything complicated in it) |
| 01:19 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: With node.js there's a lot happening in JavaScript that isn't on the web |
| 01:19 |
mauvebic |
well if i could id do more in minetest but yeah C++ syntax is very different |
| 01:19 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I've been working on a project in JavaScript for three months now, have only touched CSS once or twice (and only for functional things) |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
CSS is nice if you've experienced the era of table-based designs lol |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Maybe it would be a good idea to run a "let's learn more about the engine" workshop one day |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
though table based were often easier in php |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
And/or a "let's refactor the engine so it makes more sense more quickly" hack day |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
well it wouldn't hurt to have a few faqs up explaining the engine |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
Yeah. |
| 01:21 |
mauvebic |
i can do things like change the size of the sun/moon |
| 01:21 |
mauvebic |
but thats hardly a patch lol |
| 01:21 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Are you interested in putting up more information for new contributors, or has your get-off-my-lawn mentality stuck around? :) |
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| 01:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53050#p53050 |
| 01:23 |
Uberi |
hey jordan4ibanez |
| 01:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hi uberi :D |
| 01:24 |
mauvebic |
i think c55 == afk atm |
| 01:24 |
mauvebic |
what does it mean when names are in grey on xchat? |
| 01:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
I finally got sick of the placenode sound and decided to "fix it" |
| 01:25 |
mauvebic |
does the grass still sound like egg shells? lol |
| 01:25 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Probably that they have an away message set, which is fine, he'll get the message when he returns. I know IRC is async. |
| 01:25 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: I never noticed that, but then again I play with the sound off :) |
| 01:25 |
mauvebic |
oh yeah these things log lol |
| 01:25 |
* marktraceur |
compiles with -DENABLE_SOUND=0 |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
I like the sounds, I play with my custom ones |
| 01:26 |
marktraceur |
Game sounds make my music listening experience less fun |
| 01:26 |
marktraceur |
But more power to you, jordan4ibanez |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, with this every time you place a node you can play a song :P |
| 01:27 |
mauvebic |
thats not a problem for me, 4 computers plugged into the same sound system lol |
| 01:27 |
mauvebic |
i love jango.com lol |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
try clementine! |
| 01:27 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: That might get loud, considering the number of nodes I place :/ |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lmao |
| 01:28 |
mauvebic |
celementine has online radio? |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Clementine has everything |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
EVERYTHING |
| 01:28 |
mauvebic |
is that a website or the music player for gnome? |
| 01:28 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: Hypnotoad! |
| 01:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Music player for all desktops |
| 01:28 |
mauvebic |
ok i know what youre talking about |
| 01:29 |
mauvebic |
dunno i didnt even install a music player my old hd died with all my music and pix on it |
| 01:29 |
mauvebic |
(that thread where i complained about clikcing sounds, thats what it was lol) |
| 01:30 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: Please tell me you know what I'm talking about, re: hypnotoad |
| 01:30 |
Uberi |
is there any way to change a client's settings from a mod? |
| 01:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes i do lol |
| 01:31 |
mauvebic |
from a mod? |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: As in the stuff in minetest.conf? |
| 01:31 |
mauvebic |
you can change minetest.conf but it wont work until restart |
| 01:31 |
Uberi |
aw |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: But that would only work if the mod was in a singleplayer world, else it would only modify the server minetest.conf |
| 01:31 |
Uberi |
there goes my telescope idea |
| 01:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
You'd have to include that clientside |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
well that begs the question, why edit minetest.conf in game? |
| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Change the fov while the game is running |
| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
blockplanet does that |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
fov? |
| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
When you run at least |
| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Field of view |
| 01:32 |
Uberi |
field of view, yes |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
like -/+ |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
? |
| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
like very smoothly |
| 01:32 |
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| 01:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Jeija did it, you'd have to look at his commits to it |
| 01:33 |
mauvebic |
change what exactly then? |
| 01:33 |
rarkenin |
Hi. With the current 0.4 state, is it possible to make blocks that allow one-way passage? |
| 01:33 |
Uberi |
say what of the BlockPlanet patches? |
| 01:33 |
Uberi |
there's a lot of stuff in them and it'd be a shame to let it all go to waste |
| 01:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
Here's the commits https://github.com/Jeija/BlockPlanet/commits/master |
| 01:34 |
Uberi |
rarkenin: you can build one with mesecons |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
Yes, but it would be jittery if you try to go the wrong way |
| 01:34 |
Uberi |
add a pressure plate connected to a piston door on one side |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
has anyone had the mapgen bug yet? |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
or track the player's position and only allow it to move one direction |
| 01:34 |
rarkenin |
OK... I'm interested in making a possible mod. |
| 01:34 |
khonkhortisan |
there's also trapdoors |
| 01:35 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: My instinct is that you should look at the pressure plate mod, figure out how they detect a player step, and use the same system to allow pass-through on collision with your new node. |
| 01:35 |
rarkenin |
OK. Thanks. I hope I didn't interrupt the previous conversation. |
| 01:35 |
Uberi |
oh, in Mesecons we use an ABM with get_objects_in_radius |
| 01:35 |
khonkhortisan |
No, you're not that noisy. |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
dont worry, were all modding lol |
| 01:36 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: That sounds buggy! |
| 01:36 |
Uberi |
then if you find a player, something's standing on it |
| 01:36 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: it works, though :P |
| 01:36 |
Uberi |
you can walk right over it if the server is lagging, unfortunately |
| 01:36 |
* marktraceur |
wonders why we don't have an on_collision hook yet |
| 01:37 |
rarkenin |
That would really be useful... |
| 01:37 |
khonkhortisan |
just tie it to where the physics system stops movement |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
i wish nodes could overlap lol |
| 01:37 |
khonkhortisan |
yuck |
| 01:37 |
khonkhortisan |
we could have 45° nodes then |
| 01:37 |
Uberi |
is that ? a degree symbol? |
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| 01:38 |
khonkhortisan |
yep. compose+o+o |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
overlap is highly unlikely though |
| 01:38 |
babyface1031 |
hi Doc22 and @OldCoder |
| 01:38 |
khonkhortisan |
also, a divide symbol ÷ |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
all nodes should be falling nodes though, that would already help gravity alot |
| 01:39 |
marktraceur |
babyface1031: His nick is just OldCoder, the @ means he's a mod, but isn't part of his nick. |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
unless is somehow connected to a node with group antigrav=1, it should fall |
| 01:39 |
khonkhortisan |
there's a node physics topic on the forum, that's slightly more complicated than falling |
| 01:39 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: that would make buildings rather... difficult :P |
| 01:40 |
Uberi |
not to mention entity-entity collision |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
i said connected :P |
| 01:40 |
khonkhortisan |
oh yeah, where you can't have floating islands |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
its tricky though |
| 01:40 |
Uberi |
especially with Taoki's 3D models |
| 01:40 |
khonkhortisan |
that could be done |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
the thing with falling nodes is that the support has to be under |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 01:41 |
Uberi |
hey OldCoder |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Octuteam World is back up |
| 01:41 |
mauvebic |
and it if were sideways, youd have to check that each subsequent node is connected to something thats connected to the ground |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
and better than ever! :-) |
| 01:41 |
babyface1031 |
it si :D |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
Well, less corrupted anyway |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
Should be fine for now |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
Go try it and report missing pieces |
| 01:41 |
OldCoder |
We are reverted to the 17th |
| 01:42 |
babyface1031 |
ok |
| 01:42 |
khonkhortisan |
mauvebic, Related: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3032 |
| 01:42 |
mauvebic |
i read it :p i just thought it was near impossible to do in lua |
| 01:43 |
khonkhortisan |
every block would have physics-related metadata in it if it was done in lua |
| 01:43 |
khonkhortisan |
it might be slow |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
dont need metadata |
| 01:43 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
the world is flat |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
every node falls down |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
unless a node is squishy, it doesnt bounce |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
thats basic physics right there, enough for MT |
| 01:44 |
Uberi |
pretty much |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
thing is all nodes dont fall down if they are connected to something connected to the ground |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
thats the tricky bit |
| 01:45 |
mauvebic |
recursive algorithms are to be avoided lol |
| 01:45 |
khonkhortisan |
if a node was hanging on a wall and fell because it had too much weight on top of it, it would need metadata - and the physics wouldn't be so simple |
| 01:45 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder we have to get all the machines out again |
| 01:46 |
Uberi |
and whether a node is on the ground is a tricky thing in itself |
| 01:46 |
mauvebic |
dont need meta use groups instead |
| 01:46 |
khonkhortisan |
â‘ build tower â‘¡ build two-node-long plateau on top of the tower â‘¢ remove tower â‘£ watch the two nodes holding each other up in mid-air |
| 01:46 |
Uberi |
you have to check all the way to -y chunk load distance |
| 01:46 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Yep |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
and gravity would probably fuck up things like worldedit and multinode |
| 01:47 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: You could probably use a system of links that point to supporting nodes, instead of simply "is there an adjacent node" |
| 01:47 |
marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: That way it's all included in node metainfo from the second mapgen fires |
| 01:47 |
mauvebic |
assuming the user places them manually, then yes, you could always set each node to show if theres a connected node |
| 01:48 |
mauvebic |
i think thats what is_ground_content was meant to do lol |
| 01:49 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: No, no, not only player-placed. mapgen can set the support links in generation. It would be a few more bits to store per node, but might be worth it for realism lovers |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
oh man I've been looking for what that does for ages! |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
it wasn't documented anywhere |
| 01:49 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: It's no-op |
| 01:49 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah a nothing variable |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
still |
| 01:49 |
rarkenin |
Still, the legacy method should remain available for the realosm haters or those with slow machines. |
| 01:49 |
mauvebic |
gravity is helluvalot more tricky to setup than warfare or RPGs, and we dont even have much of that yet |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I guess you could look at it as a flag that means "This mod was coded by a newbie who has copied from old examples and hasn't chatted with experienced modders" |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
:) |
| 01:50 |
mauvebic |
if gravity is done, it wont be in lua thats for sure lol |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: The community seems a little hostile to the RPG idea, though, innit? |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
well i dont like RPGs either, but my wife does lol |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
so i thought, instead of caftable items, what about skill items? |
| 01:51 |
* khonkhortisan |
playing an rpg right now |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
we were all noobs, once |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
youd need a certain skill level to be able to craft something |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
well I think RPGs are best left to mods |
| 01:51 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Agreed! I only learned about the is_ground thing yesterday. |
| 01:51 |
marktraceur |
Er...maybe a few days ago |
| 01:52 |
* marktraceur |
is a little bit blurry this week |
| 01:52 |
Uberi |
you can't make an RPG for everyone, but you can make a sandbox :) |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
no but a basic RPG API |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
theyre all the same anyways |
| 01:52 |
Uberi |
then you have many RPG mods, one for each player's tastes |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
you need skills to do X and make Y |
| 01:52 |
Uberi |
eh, I suppose you could put it that way |
| 01:52 |
mauvebic |
math-wise i mean :p |
| 01:52 |
marktraceur |
OK, I have a simple request: What should be used to craft factories? |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
one-node factories? |
| 01:53 |
marktraceur |
I think there should be multiple levels of tech tree between the base materials and a factory, since it's such a powerful concept |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
something with mese |
| 01:53 |
Uberi |
lots of mese |
| 01:53 |
mauvebic |
well if its like simcity or age of empires, a player should "evolve" their colony before having access to better resources |
| 01:54 |
marktraceur |
I'm considering using two of my transactors as part of the recipe, but more third-level craftitems (i.e., you need to craft twice to make them) would be good |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
we need a sortof "research" mod lol |
| 01:54 |
mauvebic |
like homeworld |
| 01:55 |
* marktraceur |
doesn't like the idea of using mese in this recipe |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
in minetest you start out pretty much stone age lol |
| 01:55 |
Uberi |
then you got Mesecons/Tekkit and... I dunno, a MESE age? |
| 01:56 |
marktraceur |
Something that you'd see in the construction of a factory. I have mechanical arms, gears, conveyor belts already available, but I'd like to possibly add more of those second-level craft items and then add third-level ones that go in here |
| 01:56 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: a crane, maybe? |
| 01:56 |
Uberi |
or a winch |
| 01:56 |
Uberi |
lift stuff vertically |
| 01:56 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: A winch seems good, that could be used in the middle...maybe a winch that makes a dumbwaiter (little elevator)? |
| 01:56 |
mauvebic |
factories would be cool, im working on hunter-killers (terminator) lol |
| 01:57 |
Uberi |
oh neat |
| 01:57 |
mauvebic |
well i already have guns, NPCs that can shoot are the next step lol |
| 01:58 |
rarkenin |
A pulley system would be possibly useful... |
| 01:58 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: This is just a discussion about craft items, but you'd be welcome to use the craft items to make nodes in the future :) |
| 01:58 |
Uberi |
can't wait for the next stable MT: 2x faster mapgen, 3D players, key press API |
| 01:59 |
rarkenin |
Sorry... |
| 01:59 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Where'd you get those features? |
| 01:59 |
mauvebic |
will the mapgen more customizable? |
| 01:59 |
Uberi |
plus the hundreds of bugfixes |
| 01:59 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Don't be, I just wanted to be clear :) |
| 01:59 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: the mapgen update was #254, 3D players is Taoki's branch, soon to be merged, and key press API is rba's |
| 01:59 |
marktraceur |
Ooh, a hopper. A hopper is important. Maybe two. |
| 01:59 |
Uberi |
so many awesome things |
| 02:00 |
marktraceur |
Oh cool. |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
in one of the latest gits all my players show up as leaves, is minetest.conf enable_texture_atlas =false still valid? |
| 02:01 |
Uberi |
mauvebic: IIRC tex atlas issues caused mismatched textures... |
| 02:01 |
Uberi |
you updated mt_game, right? |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
on my old tower its the latest version of everything |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
cant connect to squat either lol |
| 02:02 |
Uberi |
:/ |
| 02:02 |
Uberi |
how about a slightly older version? |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
all my other comps are running older versions and are fine |
| 02:03 |
Uberi |
oh and the next version includes my patches for tree growth and clearpassword crashes, so it should help with the griefer problem |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
which is why i ahvent updated |
| 02:04 |
Uberi |
let's see, I should make a changelog |
| 02:08 |
marktraceur |
Is there any existing mod that has chisels, scissors, or other smaller tools? |
| 02:08 |
Uberi |
I think I saw shears in one |
| 02:08 |
Uberi |
oh yes it was animals/mobf |
| 02:08 |
marktraceur |
Hrm, animals |
| 02:09 |
marktraceur |
But that's licensed under some stupid "modified GPL" or whatever, and useless to me |
| 02:09 |
Uberi |
oh yeah, ask sapier about relicensing |
| 02:09 |
marktraceur |
Plus, I need more than shears. OK, I'm on it. |
| 02:12 |
Uberi |
I did a quick changelog: http://www.pasteall.org/37459 |
| 02:12 |
Uberi |
just from the commit summary so far, but there is a big bunch of changes incoming |
| 02:13 |
marktraceur |
I want to quickly say, for the record, that I am not an artist. But I'm about to make textures. |
| 02:13 |
Uberi |
think of the children! :P |
| 02:21 |
marktraceur |
Hrm....what about fueling the factory? Should I make the input/output hoppers smaller and add a fuel slot, take fuel from the input hopper (if it isn't used for the craft recipe), or just run it without fuel? |
| 02:21 |
rarkenin |
It would depend on the input being run. Perhaps: Have a fuel place, take fuel if the iten being processed needs it, take no fuel otherwise? |
| 02:22 |
rarkenin |
If there is no fuel, skip the things in the input needing fuel. |
| 02:22 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Well, the question is essentially twofold. 1. Should a factory take fuel to run, and 2. Where should I have the user put the fuel? |
| 02:23 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Either it takes fuel or not, I figure. |
| 02:23 |
rarkenin |
Not all processes really need fuel. Of course, being a biochemist, I base everything on enzymes. |
| 02:23 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Well, moving mechanical arms and conveyor belts should either take fuel or not, from a gameplay perspective |
| 02:23 |
rarkenin |
Most things will need fuel, but some will just take 0 fuel from the fuel hopper. |
| 02:24 |
rarkenin |
Ah. Those? They should, IMO, take fuel. They need not go through 2 lava buckets a second. They are just conveyors, not fusion reactors. |
| 02:24 |
marktraceur |
*nod8 |
| 02:24 |
marktraceur |
*nod** |
| 02:25 |
marktraceur |
But that means I need to write a fuel-consumption algorithm into it |
| 02:25 |
* marktraceur |
grumbles |
| 02:25 |
rarkenin |
Just like the furnace? |
| 02:25 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Basically, but I have to write it into this mod now, tooo |
| 02:25 |
rarkenin |
The furnace one can be reused, but doubling times since a conveyor need not reach 950 degrees centigrade. |
| 02:26 |
marktraceur |
Seems right :) |
| 02:26 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Biochemist, eh? That's pretty great. |
| 02:26 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Are you going to make biochem mods? Or just here to get away from work? :) |
| 02:27 |
rarkenin |
I am a student, and am on break due to the national holiday here in the states. Of course, my studies are first. |
| 02:27 |
rarkenin |
I might... |
| 02:27 |
rarkenin |
Mese-concentrating bacteria? |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: I'd take fungi that produce useful chemicals, gathered and placed in special equipment for gathering it |
| 02:29 |
OldCoder |
Don't model the bacteria individually :p |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Game of Life, in Minetest! |
| 02:29 |
rarkenin |
I won't... I'll just make flasks. |
| 02:30 |
OldCoder |
Sure! |
| 02:30 |
rarkenin |
Just not now, I'm a bit tied up right now. |
| 02:30 |
* marktraceur |
thinks it might be time to go clean up the late lunch/early dinner he had |
| 02:30 |
rarkenin |
Lua hates me. PHP loves me. Therefore I should use a library for PHP-in-LUA. |
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| 02:34 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, wb |
| 02:34 |
babyface1031 |
ty |
| 02:35 |
mauvebic |
lua is practically php |
| 02:35 |
mauvebic |
the php of games lol |
| 02:35 |
rarkenin |
It still hates me... :-( |
| 02:36 |
mauvebic |
any good at python? |
| 02:37 |
mauvebic |
theres alot of stuff you can do with python that you cant with lua, gives for some interesting mods |
| 02:37 |
rarkenin |
No, just PHP... |
| 02:37 |
rarkenin |
I overuse it. |
| 02:38 |
rarkenin |
<offtopic>I've even used it to make a system to arm wrestle over IP. it sisn't work since in testing, I won.</offtopic> |
| 02:40 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Have you contributed to MediaWiki before? It's a fun project (in my not-so-objective opinion) |
| 02:40 |
rarkenin |
No, not really. |
| 02:40 |
mauvebic |
i know |
| 02:40 |
mauvebic |
i learned php ten years ago, first language |
| 02:41 |
rarkenin |
On another note: I don't think this can be done via the mod API, but I'd love to see private chat nets for areas. Great for groups of people working together, or a factory. |
| 02:41 |
mauvebic |
private messages are easy |
| 02:41 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: For groups, though, it would be a bit harder |
| 02:41 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: Possible, but not trivial |
| 02:42 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: It would probably be more like "invite people to a group so you can chat privately" |
| 02:42 |
mauvebic |
youd have to save the groups to an array |
| 02:42 |
mauvebic |
and load them at startup |
| 02:42 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: You'd just need to save the groups, and PM each person when a group message is sent |
| 02:44 |
rarkenin |
Oh, right, I forgot of the PM system. |
| 02:45 |
marktraceur |
rarkenin: It's all documented in the API reference (doc/lua_api.txt), search for chat in there |
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| 02:48 |
Uberi |
something like clans/factions, maybe |
| 02:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
tpa would be nice for that |
| 02:50 |
Muadtralk |
minetest-war? |
| 02:50 |
Muadtralk |
it had clans |
| 02:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
/tpa to_player, /tpaccept, /tpdeny |
| 02:55 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: tpa? |
| 02:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
telleport request |
| 02:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
then the player being requested denies or accepts |
| 02:57 |
marktraceur |
Ah. |
| 03:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
very, good for clans |
| 03:01 |
Uberi |
teleportation is a bit overpowered though IMO |
| 03:02 |
Uberi |
for example, with two players one could raid the base, and as soon as he/she is discovered teleport away |
| 03:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Exactly! |
| 03:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
More action lol |
| 03:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
LandMine offered to "test" my server, lol. |
| 03:10 |
Uberi |
haha |
| 03:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Omg, I've found it, someone that makes me more irritated than vanessae, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53082#p53082 the last post |
| 03:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
No offense vanessae, lol. |
| 03:13 |
Uberi |
eh, I usually assume they don't speak English as their first language |
| 03:14 |
Uberi |
I mean, it sounds like a translator output, no? |
| 03:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yep |
| 03:16 |
Muadtralk |
you gave up being the T_A_N_K? |
| 03:17 |
Uberi |
those underscore were a pain to type, to be honest |
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| 03:18 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: The last post is you, so....you're irritated by yourself? <inception> |
| 03:18 |
Uberi |
hey hmmmm |
| 03:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
The two hemispheres of my brain are arguing again damnit |
| 03:18 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: His capitalization of "You" might mean he sees you as a deity. |
| 03:18 |
Uberi |
and the cerebellum's tired of all their bickering |
| 03:19 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: Sever the corpus collossum, that'll all be over |
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| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Hi |
| 03:20 |
Uberi |
hey NekoGloop |
| 03:20 |
Uberi |
I'm off to go play some Ace of Spades now :) |
| 03:20 |
NekoGloop |
... I have a feeling that i am needed for some reason or another. |
| 03:20 |
OldCoder |
It is quite possible |
| 03:21 |
Muadtralk |
yes I need you to run in circles until you get dizzy. :P |
| 03:22 |
* NekoGloop |
complies. |
| 03:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm44w1WdBvo |
| 03:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is how i react when i get email |
| 03:27 |
marktraceur |
I love this so much. |
| 03:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh god, and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRb4McIxys |
| 03:37 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: Y-y-y-y-y-you have mail! |
| 03:50 |
babyface1031 |
night guy and gals |
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| 04:04 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 04:04 |
Kacey |
hey doc |
| 04:07 |
Kacey |
is anyone online? |
| 04:07 |
NekoGloop |
No, go away. |
| 04:07 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
barely |
| 04:07 |
Kacey |
Doc22 are you here mentally? |
| 04:09 |
Kacey |
ok maybe not |
| 04:10 |
Kacey |
neko: i made a mod :) |
| 04:10 |
Kacey |
nm |
| 04:11 |
Kacey |
anyone want to join my server? |
| 04:11 |
Doc22 |
hey guys |
| 04:11 |
Kacey |
ooh there you are |
| 04:11 |
Doc22 |
i got a 1tb hd for 59$ at black friday sales |
| 04:12 |
Doc22 |
WOOOOO |
| 04:12 |
Kacey |
but it is only 9 pm |
| 04:12 |
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| 04:12 |
Doc22 |
and i made a farming mod with carrots, raspberries, potatoes, and corn |
| 04:12 |
Doc22 |
the corn looks nice |
| 04:12 |
Kacey |
cool |
| 04:12 |
Doc22 |
:/ |
| 04:13 |
Kacey |
how about wheat? |
| 04:13 |
Kacey |
can i contribute wheat? |
| 04:13 |
Kacey |
or at leats the textures |
| 04:14 |
Doc22 |
oh sure |
| 04:14 |
Doc22 |
lemme see it |
| 04:14 |
Doc22 |
ill use it if it matches the other plants |
| 04:14 |
Kacey |
well i need to make them first |
| 04:14 |
Kacey |
i need to see the others to make it match |
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Doc22 |
ok |
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| 04:17 |
Doc22 |
dont bother |
| 04:17 |
Doc22 |
its ok |
| 04:17 |
Doc22 |
i got them |
| 04:18 |
Kacey |
wooooo that was fun |
| 04:18 |
Doc22 |
im not uploading till its done |
| 04:18 |
Kacey |
k |
| 04:18 |
Kacey |
want to join my server? |
| 04:19 |
Doc22 |
in a bit |
| 04:20 |
Kacey |
k |
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| 04:40 |
* VanessaE |
jabs jordan4ibanez in the ribs for the previous "irritating" comment. |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 04:43 |
* Kacey |
slaps VanessaE with pure nothing |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 04:44 |
* Kacey |
kicks VanessaE with a horse |
| 04:45 |
Kacey |
lol fail |
| 04:45 |
* Kacey |
slaps VanessaE with bill gates wallet |
| 04:45 |
Kacey |
there it is |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 04:46 |
Kacey |
yep |
| 04:48 |
Kacey |
making a mod withDoc22 |
| 04:48 |
telek |
VanessaE: With just the change falling out of BillG's wallet when it impacted you, not only were you able to pay for the medical bills, but also for the entirety of Minetest development, both scripted and programmed :D |
| 04:48 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 04:59 |
Kacey |
having technical difficulties with this mod |
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| 04:59 |
Aqua |
hi |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 05:00 |
Aqua |
first time using irc =D |
| 05:01 |
Kacey |
well as OldCoder would say |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 05:01 |
Kacey |
"pull up a seat and stay for a while" |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Welcome! |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Chill! |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, Hey! |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, 30004 should be good now |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Though it's time to shut down the worlds for a backup |
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
|
| 05:01 |
OldCoder |
Everybody out of the pool! |
| 05:02 |
Kacey |
i am busy making a (somewhat)successful mod |
| 05:02 |
Aqua |
how do i know who's online? |
| 05:02 |
Aqua |
what mod? |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, online in IRC? |
| 05:02 |
Aqua |
yep |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
Your client should show a list |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
I see 66 names for example on the right |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
Try HexChat; it does this |
| 05:02 |
Kacey |
my newest (i think it is my fourth) mod called the churnace |
| 05:02 |
OldCoder |
churnace? |
| 05:02 |
Aqua |
....so all of those people are online? |
| 05:03 |
Kacey |
chest and furnace together |
| 05:03 |
Aqua |
lol |
| 05:03 |
OldCoder |
Cooks your possessions?? |
| 05:03 |
OldCoder |
Handy! |
| 05:03 |
Aqua |
then you can maked locked churnace |
| 05:03 |
OldCoder |
Who needs all that stuff? |
| 05:03 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 05:03 |
OldCoder |
Burn it up! |
| 05:03 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: What the hell does that mean? Bigger inventories for src and dst? |
| 05:04 |
Kacey |
no just an inentory that you can store stuff in and cook when you need to |
| 05:04 |
Aqua |
took me a few minutes to figure out how to get on irc |
| 05:04 |
marktraceur |
....so it's a furnace. |
| 05:04 |
telek |
marktraceur: The inventory just acts as fuel for a furnace, which due to not having an 'input' item slot just continuously combusts what was placed in it. Kinda like a mimic in D&D :D |
| 05:04 |
Kacey |
no |
| 05:04 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: What's different? |
| 05:05 |
Aqua |
my survival games map is nearly ready |
| 05:05 |
Kacey |
there will be a cooking side and a storage side of the inventory |
| 05:05 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: So a furnace....with bigger inventories. |
| 05:05 |
Kacey |
no |
| 05:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
How would i go about damaging a player? |
| 05:05 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: So what else is different? |
| 05:05 |
Kacey |
a chest and a furnace put together |
| 05:06 |
Aqua |
so you can store your stuff and cook at the same time nice! |
| 05:06 |
Kacey |
yes Aqua got it |
| 05:06 |
Aqua |
its handy |
| 05:06 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Normal furnaces have storage too. |
| 05:06 |
OldCoder |
But not cook your stuff? |
| 05:06 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 05:06 |
OldCoder |
So it can't be used to roast your money? |
| 05:07 |
Kacey |
marktraceur: but they only have 4 slots |
| 05:07 |
Kacey |
oldcoder that is correct |
| 05:07 |
OldCoder |
Oh, well |
| 05:07 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: So what you're saying is, it's a furnace, but with more than 4 slots? i.e., a BIGGER INVENTORY? |
| 05:07 |
Aqua |
no |
| 05:07 |
Kacey |
well almost |
| 05:07 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Well, what's the difference between what I just said and what you made? |
| 05:08 |
Kacey |
i havent made it work yet |
| 05:08 |
Aqua |
isnt it one side for cooking then the other for storing stuff |
| 05:08 |
Aqua |
that wont be cooked |
| 05:08 |
Kacey |
Aqua that is correct |
| 05:08 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: So it's a furnace, with bigger inventory, that doesn't cook things. Interesting. |
| 05:08 |
Kacey |
maybe a tab for both |
| 05:08 |
* marktraceur |
will be downloading that right away |
| 05:08 |
Aqua |
....... |
| 05:08 |
Aqua |
facepalm |
| 05:09 |
* Kacey |
is going bald from it |
| 05:09 |
Aqua |
kacey u ever gonna release ur water thing |
| 05:09 |
Aqua |
the one where it can push you |
| 05:09 |
Kacey |
it went down... i lost the code |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
backups. |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
always keep backups. |
| 05:10 |
Aqua |
i never keep backups |
| 05:10 |
Aqua |
to lazy |
| 05:10 |
Kacey |
wouldnt be hard to remake but i am busy with churnace right now |
| 05:10 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Syntax error: "lazy" is an invalid verb |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
it takes zero effort to make backups if you have a good setup. |
| 05:11 |
Aqua |
how do i port foward? |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
I use a script I wrote, which uses several runs of rsync, to backup to an external hard disk. all I have to do is tell it the path of the drive and everything else happens automatically. |
| 05:11 |
Aqua |
for a server |
| 05:11 |
Aqua |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3624 |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
takes me all of 2 seconds to type my root password. |
| 05:12 |
Kacey |
linux? |
| 05:12 |
Aqua |
i got windows xp |
| 05:12 |
Aqua |
old......really old |
| 05:12 |
Aqua |
laptop |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: of course. no one in their right mind uses windows anyway :) |
| 05:13 |
Kacey |
i use xp also but i am going to switch to xubuntu |
| 05:13 |
VanessaE |
I use Xubuntu 12.04. it works well for me. |
| 05:13 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: You use NT? |
| 05:13 |
Kacey |
nt? |
| 05:13 |
marktraceur |
Yeah, NT. |
| 05:13 |
Kacey |
what is that? |
| 05:13 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Your kernel |
| 05:13 |
marktraceur |
(maybe) |
| 05:14 |
Kacey |
i use windows xp |
| 05:14 |
Aqua |
can minetest run on mac? |
| 05:14 |
Kacey |
and what is a kernal? |
| 05:14 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: It's what Linux is, which one do you use? |
| 05:14 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: not really, no. there aren't any current mac builds, but it did run at one time. |
| 05:14 |
VanessaE |
but there's at least one guy working on it, so maybe some time soon |
| 05:14 |
Kacey |
i dont use one yet |
| 05:14 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: You don't use a kernel? That seems unlikely. |
| 05:15 |
Aqua |
:( thinking bout getting a mac when i get to high school |
| 05:15 |
Kacey |
i use windows xp right now |
| 05:15 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: Yeah, but usually that means you're using NT. |
| 05:15 |
Aqua |
but then i cant play minetest |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
now now mark, don't get too pedantic, these are windows users you're talking to - the kind of folks who think a CD/DVD drive is a cupholder and the computer is a hard drive :-) |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: try it under a virtual machine running a linux distribution. |
| 05:16 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: A mac is just hardware, get it and put GNU/Linux on it |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
or do that. |
| 05:16 |
Kacey |
hey the cupholder idea worked really well |
| 05:16 |
Kacey |
until it closed |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: I can't count the number of people I've heard referring to the computer box itself as just "hard drive". |
| 05:16 |
marktraceur |
Aqua: Of course, you could save money and buy decent hardware sans the Apple(TM)(R)(C)(FU) price hike |
| 05:16 |
Aqua |
i think gameboom is down now really need to find a new server |
| 05:16 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
lol mark |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: your copy of minetest might be too old, or too new. |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
gameboom tends to be rather out of date. |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
they just updated to 0.4.3 recently. |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
and that's already slightly dated. |
| 05:17 |
Aqua |
gameboom was my fave.... :( |
| 05:17 |
* Kacey |
cannot wait until 0.5 comes out |
| 05:17 |
OldCoder |
Aqua, they supposedly recovered it |
| 05:18 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 05:18 |
OldCoder |
Down again? |
| 05:18 |
OldCoder |
I *asked* GhostShell for a copy |
| 05:18 |
OldCoder |
D: |
| 05:18 |
telek |
Kacey: I'm waiting for 2.0. By then the bugs should be worked out :D |
| 05:18 |
Aqua |
too many griefers |
| 05:18 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 05:18 |
telek |
Also maybe the API will be finalized :D |
| 05:18 |
Kacey |
but the bugs are the fun part |
| 05:18 |
marktraceur |
telek: By 2.0 we'll be on an accelerated release cycle, each release will just be adding one API hook, once every week |
| 05:18 |
Aqua |
does worldedit make minetest lag? |
| 05:19 |
telek |
Only if they're crawling around in game, not in-server :D |
| 05:19 |
Kacey |
a little bit |
| 05:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
Who want's too see something cool? |
| 05:19 |
telek |
marktraceur: Not that'll be sometime after 3.x :D |
| 05:19 |
Kacey |
i do!!!!! |
| 05:19 |
telek |
Right before the switch to only doing major number releases (ala MacOS, Windows, Chrome and Firefox :D |
| 05:20 |
Kacey |
by then we would have to pay for mineest if we hadnt contributed to it before |
| 05:21 |
Aqua |
pun stop bots is annoying.......and dodgy |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
actually, when the game is ready to approach the 3.1.0 mark, it should just skip to 5.0.0, just to sidestep all those...ahem.. people .. who insist on saying "4.0.3" or "4.3.0" instead of the correct number. |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: if it were to go commercial it wouldn't matter anyway - it is open source. by definition, you will never have to pay for what we already have now - anyone can fork it and continue developing a free version |
| 05:22 |
Kacey |
ooh |
| 05:22 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: You mean we aren't going to do 2.26.x.x for 7 years then arbitrarily release 3.1? |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: exactly. :-) |
| 05:22 |
telek |
But lots of rabid fanboys will only use the commercial version while decrying the damn dirty hippies :D |
| 05:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHWsxzrJwCs&feature=youtu.be |
| 05:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
Turrets lol |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: instead, we'll wallow in the 0.4.x realm for the next 2 years and then arbitrarily release 0.5-stable :D |
| 05:23 |
Aqua |
is there any server hosted in australia? |
| 05:23 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: By definition, the OSI and the FSF never define price as being a part of the requirements, so it's possible to charge for the software. |
| 05:23 |
telek |
Nah, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.11 for Warehouses, 3.5, 3.51, then 4.0, then 5.0, only called something pertaining to date, then NG, then Plateau, then return to numbering with 7 and 8 :D |
| 05:23 |
Aqua |
jordan its not workin |
| 05:24 |
* telek |
did miss a couple there :D |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: oh sure, but if the source is already out there, then anyone can just fork it and keep developing a free-as-in-beer one. |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
like the big argument over OpenOffice -> LibreOffice. |
| 05:24 |
telek |
Or StarOffice -> OpenOffice -> LibreOffice :D |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 05:25 |
marktraceur |
We could release Minetest ME (Millenium Edition) in 2014, then spend three years trolling people by simply saying "Oh, you're using the wrong calendar" |
| 05:25 |
telek |
Since you'll remember there were complaints when it was still Star vs Open, and the open one was 'inferior' :D |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
no, better yet. |
| 05:25 |
telek |
marktraceur: Don't you mean the 2013 'ME (Mayan Edition)'? :D |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
Minetest Mayan Edition |
| 05:25 |
telek |
::) |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
release date, 2012-12-21 |
| 05:25 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 05:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, what did you have for dinner? |
| 05:25 |
marktraceur |
Oho, and telek beats out VanessaE by a few seconds! |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: Jennie-O turkey loaf, potatoes, stuffing, biscuits, apple pie with whipped cream. |
| 05:26 |
OldCoder |
Turkey Loaf? |
| 05:26 |
* OldCoder |
visualizes this marvel |
| 05:26 |
OldCoder |
Sounds good actually |
| 05:26 |
telek |
Probably because I didn't eat too much this year mark :D |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
yeah, processed turkey formed into a loaf about half the size of one of those little specialty loaves of bread |
| 05:27 |
marktraceur |
telek: Seconded, I had some ham and stuffing, it was plenty for me |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mSWq8cd7yLU/TPVyTuuK4yI/AAAAAAAAAJg/no83-fW_n4Q/s1600/jennieo.jpg |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
that. |
| 05:27 |
telek |
Heh, we had a like 5+ course meal for ours, almost all from scratch (save stuffing.) |
| 05:27 |
Aqua |
jordan that is soo cool |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
that's been our thanksgiving staple for the past decade now :-) |
| 05:28 |
OldCoder |
I must try it |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
it's actually very good when cooked right |
| 05:28 |
OldCoder |
I believe it |
| 05:28 |
OldCoder |
Loaf is Love Of All Food! |
| 05:29 |
OldCoder |
Hmm. That needs work. |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
tip: make some great value "butter" "flaky" biscuits. Split one, add a slice of Kraft "singles" cheese, and a few thin slices of the above turkey. nuke until the cheese melts. On a separate plate, place a slice of no-sugar-added apple pie from wal-mart (I forge the brand). Nuke until very warm. Top with Reddi-Whip. |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
THOSE two are HEAVEN ON A PLATE. |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
Oh my |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
Sigh |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
Reddi-Whip is Hip |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
fuck yeah it is :-) |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
Not kidding or poking fun |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
don't give me none of that Cool Whip shit. :-) |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
Reddi-Whip or bust. |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
I shall look for the real thing |
| 05:30 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 05:31 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I will blog that recipe if I may |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
go right ahead |
| 05:31 |
OldCoder |
Indeed I take heed |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
I meant Great Value biscuits, that is, Wal-Mart's brand. |
| 05:31 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:31 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: You don't like Coo Hwhip? |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: no, I don't like air-whip. :-) |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
I swear, when the stuff is at normal consumption temperatures, it's like eating flavored air. |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
heh, Abe's over here half asleep from having consumed too much :) |
| 05:32 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Oh, I'm making flavoured air right now! |
| 05:33 |
Aqua |
is there any server hosted in australia? |
| 05:33 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Family cookie recipe, basically air + sugar + chocolate. Amazing stuff. |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
Aqua: no clue - probably though. |
| 05:33 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, turkey slices or turkey loaf slices? |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: actually that sounds good, save for the sugar - use Stevia instead. |
| 05:33 |
Aqua |
cornernote had one |
| 05:34 |
* marktraceur |
has been warned off non-sugar by the girlfriend :) |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: slices of the above Jennie-O turkey loaf. two to three 1/8 inch thick slices per biscuit. |
| 05:34 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: stevia is all natural and is incredibly tasty as sweetners go. |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
walmart sells it, one brand they have is "truvia". |
| 05:35 |
marktraceur |
Hm. I'll think about 'er. |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
(besides, we have to avoid sugar for diabetic and roux-en-Y reasons) |
| 05:35 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: roux-en-y? |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: try sometime - give her some favorite food, but sweeten it with that instead of sugar. see if she notices :-) |
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marktraceur |
VanessaE: Oooh, she'd be soooo pissed |
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| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
Roux-en-Y gastric bypass. Weight loss surgery. One of the "side effects" as it were is that consumption of too many carbs, especially sugar, will lead to digestive discomfort or adverse reactions. |
| 05:37 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: not if you offered it to her without her asking for it. |
| 05:37 |
VanessaE |
get rid of the sugar. it's for your better health. |
| 05:37 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: No, when I told her later what was in it she'd be freaked out about it....I'll just ask 'er what she think about it, be safe :) |
| 05:38 |
Dogzilla131 |
hey can somebody make a mod to make creatures of Scp coaintaiment Breach? |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
ok, see what she says then. |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: eh? |
| 05:38 |
Dogzilla131 |
Do you know whats Scp Containment Breach |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: but first, be prepared to offer her some food sweetened therewith. She'll be more likely to give it a fair chance if you can prepare it right. |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: no. |
| 05:39 |
Dogzilla131 |
is horror game look it up |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
no thanks. |
| 05:39 |
* marktraceur |
will make forgotten cookies again with Stevia if she's receptive |
| 05:39 |
* VanessaE |
is definitely NOT into horror. |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: sounds good. |
| 05:40 |
Aqua |
freaky zombie thing with cucumber eyes |
| 05:40 |
Aqua |
is that wat u mean? |
| 05:40 |
marktraceur |
WAT. |
| 05:40 |
marktraceur |
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat |
| 05:43 |
Dogzilla131 |
nobody want to make that mod |
| 05:43 |
Aqua |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Scp+Containment+Breach |
| 05:43 |
Aqua |
i can try but it will be dodgy |
| 05:44 |
VanessaE |
HO-LY shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=hQYTMFCLy5E&NR=1 |
| 05:44 |
* telek |
wonders how much hassle it'd be to make animatable entirely voxel 4d mobs (3d+animation) |
| 05:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
lmfao |
| 05:44 |
Aqua |
jordan ur turrets r so cool |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
I know |
| 05:45 |
Aqua |
make dispensers |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
8 :) |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
8 :) |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
8 :) |
| 05:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
8) |
| 05:45 |
* marktraceur |
so enjoys the WAT talk every time |
| 05:45 |
Aqua |
and ur axe thing |
| 05:46 |
Aqua |
atom axe? |
| 05:46 |
telek |
There's your 'accidental' arson :D |
| 05:46 |
marktraceur |
Atom Ant? |
| 05:47 |
Aqua |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puzT-EOGho&list=UUgc3zP0FfBqM9yiy6WNFFPw&index=10&feature=plcp |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
telek: someone already did voxel mobs, non-animated though. Animating such would be a real bitch I'm sure. besides, we have real 3d models coming soon thanks to Taoki. |
| 05:49 |
telek |
VanessaE: Agreed regarding Taoki's work, but there might be purists who'd like everything as a voxel :D |
| 05:49 |
* marktraceur |
imagines it's like the cube pigs from WKUK |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
No no no |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
You anchor entities to eachother |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
give a mob an ID number |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
each part of the mob has the same ID number |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
make them work together, anchored to 1 collision box |
| 05:49 |
jordan4ibanez |
hence, animated mobs |
| 05:49 |
Aqua |
cya |
| 05:50 |
telek |
So basically the voxel equivalent of multipart sprites? |
| 05:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes |
| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: celeron55 already pretty much ruled in the matter, that he wants the idea to be some kind of easily-scriptable model, not something based around cube-ish objects, entities, etc. |
| 05:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well as long as that's not around, use my method and make mobbies the JORDAN WAY! |
| 05:50 |
VanessaE |
but how does one anchor two entities together? |
| 05:51 |
marktraceur |
jordan4ibanez: What is this, a sneaker commercial? |
| 05:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
You get the position of the main base (the collision detection entity) and position the other extremedies around that |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
yeah but that's not a true anchor, the server can't keep entities perfectly in sync. |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
otherwise we'd have done that long ago I'm sure |
| 05:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
You can, no one has thought of it though |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
jeija and I discussed this when building his slimes mob. |
| 05:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
I've been saying it till i have been bleu in the face |
| 05:52 |
jordan4ibanez |
The server will keep all the entities together, because it will move them all on 1 step |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
I wanted a cube inside a cube, with the outer one set to water alpha, he said it's not possible because the server can't be trusted to move the two pieces at exactly the same moments. |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE |
(so that it would more closely resemble the original minecraft one) |
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| 05:53 |
telek |
VanessaE: It should be a burden on the client, not the server. The server should just send them as a series of objects attached to each other. |
| 05:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
They can, the server works in ticks, i don't feel like talking about this in depth because it is 1200 hours, but the server can do it |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: ok, if the server can do it - then prove it :-) |
| 05:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Okay, brb |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
telek: to a degree yeah the client has to be responsible, but the server still has to execute the movement/positioning code and end the updates to the client. |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
so both ends would need patches. |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
s/end/send/ |
| 05:55 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Both sends? |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: apply that to the previous statement instead :-) |
| 05:55 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: s/and end/and send/ |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
nonono |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
I didn't supply a /g, so only the first "end" will be caught,. |
| 05:56 |
telek |
If the children are simply offset against the central object, rather than having absolute positions themselves, it becomes a non-issue. Client goes 'oh, parent object is at xyz, children should be at xyz+/-(offset)' |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
telek: right. it's just that the server and client don't currently have a concept of "parent" and "child" entities. |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE |
afaik it's just one exists or it doesn't. |
| 05:58 |
telek |
Yeah, then you'd have to kludge it which would mean setting the child nodes in whatever script handles the parent node's movement, so it'd be guaranteed to be finished before the end of the tick. |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
hm, yeah that might work. |
| 05:59 |
telek |
Depends on how objects are handled in the scripting engine and if doing that would have adverse effects elsewhere (I know the overall concepts, just not the particulars to implement them.) |
| 06:01 |
Dogzilla131 |
how to you add sound to the game |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: install OpenAL. |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
the game already has sound. |
| 06:06 |
Dogzilla131 |
can somebody give me a site where it shows me how to make a mod |
| 06:06 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: you have to learn Lua first. |
| 06:06 |
VanessaE |
read other peoples' code |
| 06:06 |
Dogzilla131 |
ok then for that |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
download a simple mod from the forums, anything that just adds a few nodes will do. |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
go google for info on learning Lua, use that information to make changes to the mod you downloaded to make something new |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
also, you need the minetest API |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
this tells how to interface your Lua code to the minetest engine to actually make stuff happen |
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celeron55 |
< marktraceur> celeron55: Are you interested in putting up more information for new contributors, or has your get-off-my-lawn mentality stuck around? :) |
| 06:08 |
celeron55 |
^ what do you even mean by that? |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:09 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: We were chatting about how the engine doesn't have a lot of docs for new contributors, it would be helpful to have some |
| 06:09 |
mrtux |
night |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
night mrtux |
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| 06:13 |
celeron55 |
marktraceur: i wonder how many interested people have even found the stuff that does exist |
| 06:14 |
celeron55 |
more specifically, this http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=code:inner_workings_of_minetest |
| 06:14 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: However many, it's good to A) have it better positioned so it's easier to find and B) have more so people can do more |
| 06:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hi celeron55 |
| 06:17 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: It might be good to consolidate the dev-wiki with the user-wiki....not much reason in my opinion to have them so separate. You could use a different namespace for developer docs if you wanted. |
| 06:17 |
marktraceur |
(e.g. https://mediawiki.org uses Manual: for developer stuff and Help: for user stuff) |
| 06:19 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, Good morning |
| 06:19 |
OldCoder |
<celeron55> ^ what do you even mean by that? |
| 06:19 |
OldCoder |
It is a U.S. metaphor |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
Referring to old people |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
Who do not like noise and confusion |
| 06:20 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I actually meant it to refer to sometimes grumpy people :) |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
And? |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
That is the metaphor |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
Oh |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
Young grumpy people too |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
I C |
| 06:20 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
It comes from the metaphor though |
| 06:21 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 06:21 |
OldCoder |
Idiom not metaphor |
| 06:21 |
OldCoder |
<--- fading |
| 06:21 |
* VanessaE |
quickly turns up OldCoder's saturation control and turns the alpha down a tad |
| 06:22 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 06:22 |
OldCoder |
Alpha Ralpha Blvd |
| 06:23 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
| 06:23 |
OldCoder |
Thanksgiving was a sight |
| 06:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Holy shit |
| 06:24 |
OldCoder |
Backups done and U.S. worlds up again BTW |
| 06:24 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 06:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
I'm actually starting to create what i said |
| 06:24 |
OldCoder |
Who would imagine such a thing |
| 06:24 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 06:24 |
OldCoder |
<--- snoring |
| 06:25 |
OldCoder |
away Zzz |
| 06:25 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, if I had a VPS(or funds for one) I would certainly volunteer it but sadly I haven't even gotten a VPS for my own needs(but then the box under my desk works reliabily enough) |
| 06:25 |
celeron55 |
there is a huge amount of things that i could be doing for the minetest webspace, but i can't allocate the time for it as a hobby, and even if i'd get paid i couldn't get free time from the work i do until summer |
| 06:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Okay here's what i have so far http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6vJDS0Jm |
| 06:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Basically each "mob" would be assigned their own ID and then an anchor would output it's position for that ID and the other ballast entities would follow suit |
| 06:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
Not even close to being done btw, so it looks very gritty |
| 06:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Ping |
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VanessaE |
pong/ |
| 06:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
lolwut |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
[11-23 01:37] <jordan4ibanez> Ping |
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VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
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| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
[11-23 01:37] <VanessaE> pong/ |
| 06:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
Vanessae: I have created the ability for 2 entities to be linked |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
how? with an engine tweak? |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
how are you gonna force the engine and client to update the linked entities at precisely the same moment? |
| 06:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
Very simple |
| 06:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
ID dependant |
| 06:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AP8rAn6T |
| 06:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
Try it and eat your words |
| 06:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
8 ) |
| 06:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
8 :) |
| 06:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol, messed it up |
| 06:42 |
VanessaE |
show me a video of it in action. |
| 06:43 |
* telek |
needs to take a couple weeks and get up to speed with html5. |
| 06:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/20bWt7l91LQ |
| 06:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
BOOYA |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
ok, I stand corrected. |
| 06:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
3d mobs are now possible |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
that's actually not bad at all. |
| 06:46 |
telek |
Balloons jordan? |
| 06:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
Basic, multi-entity balloon mobs |
| 06:47 |
telek |
You need to make those with a chain, rope, or vine hanging off them and make them climbable :D |
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jordan4ibanez |
Here is final code http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UNz03eXV |
| 06:47 |
telek |
I'm on top of the world :D |
| 06:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
the entity id is assigned to the base, which is assigned to the ballist, when all external entities are id'd to the anchor's id, the id goes up +1 |
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jordan4ibanez |
I g2g very very tires |
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jordan4ibanez |
tired* |
| 06:49 |
telek |
I'd be tired too after spending however long on that :D |
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Dogzilla131 |
can somebody give me a website with a code like a vombie or enderfreak |
| 06:50 |
telek |
dogzilla131: vombie.lua in the animals_mod? |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
time to hit the sheets. night all. |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
(not that I'll sleep, but it's worth a try) |
| 06:56 |
* telek |
waves! |
| 06:56 |
telek |
Have a good night Vanessa! |
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marktraceur |
celeron55: I could try to help organize a documentation sprint somehow, if you think you might be able to drop in and answer sporadic questions for an hour or two (multitasking probably would be OK) |
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jin_xi |
fuck that part msg |
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jin_xi |
hey nyuszika7h your part msg is all i ever see of you, and its really long |
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nyuszika7h |
hi |
| 08:15 |
nyuszika7h |
it was a quit message actually, and it's 2 lines if your window is big enough |
| 08:15 |
jin_xi |
ok, then my window is too small ;) |
| 08:16 |
* ruskie |
has quit messages not show in his irc client... nicer that way |
| 08:17 |
jin_xi |
yes, i really should try and start to configure irssi a bit |
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nyuszika7h |
lol |
| 08:31 |
ruskie |
you can just modify /format quit and /format quit_once |
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ruskie |
to not have the reason in there |
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celeron55 |
marktraceur: most likely yes |
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Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
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Calinou |
:) |
| 10:15 |
Calinou |
has been tested |
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Calinou |
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/0.4.x_changelog.txt < updated my personal changelog |
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kotolegokot |
hi all |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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jin_xi |
hi Adam |
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TheRedMood |
Hello |
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TheRedMood |
Long time no see :) |
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TheRedMood |
VanessaE: Long time no see, mrs. |
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TheRedMood |
Hello neko :) |
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NekoGloop |
Maybe if the rules were in the channel topic? |
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OldCoder |
Good morning |
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OldCoder |
Which rules? Be patient covers a lot |
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us_0gb |
Hello! |
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OldCoder |
us_0gb, Hello back |
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KikaRz |
Hi there :D |
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KikaRz |
good morning |
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us_0gb |
I was told this might be the place to ask about getting changes made to the default plugins? |
| 14:20 |
redcrab |
Hi there ... for celeron55 and co. I find out a issue in minetestmapper.py ... I guess I fixed it ... how may I publish it ... (issue with very large map) |
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KikaRz |
*i was telling |
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Muadtralk |
submit a pull request with github? |
| 14:24 |
redcrab |
.... Currently generating a map of 8640 x 8640 map .. generation in progress view-able at http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.html ... (current redcrab 30401 world) |
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redcrab |
pull request on github ... done with "git" command ? |
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us_0gb |
I've been having problems with a firebug using lava to burn down people's houses. I read the fire plugin's API and built a nice solution, but when I tried it, I realized the API was hidden in a local variable, so my solution didn't work. I wrote up a solution that doesn't require access to the API, but it doesn't work nearly as well. Is there any chance of getting that variable switched to global? All it would take is removing the wor |
| 14:25 |
us_0gb |
d "local", and everything would be great. |
| 14:30 |
Muadtralk |
https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests |
| 14:30 |
Muadtralk |
maybe this would help? |
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us_0gb |
Probably. Thanks! |
| 14:31 |
Muadtralk |
wait....? |
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us_0gb |
What is it? |
| 14:32 |
Muadtralk |
I was trying to help redcrab publish his fix to minetestmapper |
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PilzAdam |
us_0gb, what variable are you talking about? |
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us_0gb |
Oh, well, I think your link will help me to. |
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us_0gb |
*too |
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KikaRz |
Muadtralk :D |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz |
hi :) |
| 14:32 |
Muadtralk |
ello KikaRz |
| 14:32 |
KikaRz |
How are you ? :) |
| 14:33 |
us_0gb |
The variable is called "fire", and the whole internal API of the plugin is in it. |
| 14:33 |
us_0gb |
Nothing is exposed at all. |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
do you only want to override functions? |
| 14:34 |
us_0gb |
Right. I need to override one function, to perform an additional check before removing nodes. |
| 14:35 |
PilzAdam |
IMO fire.D and fire.sounds should stay hidden |
| 14:35 |
PilzAdam |
functions can be global |
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us_0gb |
As long as I don't get stuck with the fire-sound--loop I'm hearing right now, fine. |
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us_0gb |
My messy solution to get around the "local" issue is causeing the fire sound to loop until the server restarts. |
| 14:37 |
* PilzAdam |
starts coding |
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us_0gb |
I have a perfectly functional solution, as long as the fire API gets exposed. |
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us_0gb |
I tried it by removing the word "local" from my (no pun intended) local copy of the file. |
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PilzAdam |
us_0gb, what function(s) do you want to override? |
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us_0gb |
Let me check. I think I just commented out the solution that needed the API, so it should still be there. |
| 14:47 |
us_0gb |
I believe it is fire.flame_should_extinguish(). That alone should be enough. |
| 14:48 |
KikaRz |
Hi there |
| 14:48 |
us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 14:50 |
PilzAdam |
us_0gb, is this ok for you? https://gist.github.com/4135966 |
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us_0gb |
Sorry, I'm having trouble reading what the changes are. The purple writing is cryptic to me. I'll download it, and see if it looks like regular Lua. |
| 14:56 |
PilzAdam |
wait, i push it to my repo |
| 14:57 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/fire |
| 14:57 |
PilzAdam |
redcrab, nice avatar image on GitHub :-) |
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us_0gb |
Yeah, that looks perfect! Thanks! |
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PilzAdam |
can anybody make animated fire in the default style? (16px, 8-16 frames) |
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Muadtralk |
hmmm |
| 15:08 |
Muadtralk |
8 frames i can do |
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us_0gb |
That would be nice. But I can't draw worth beans. |
| 15:09 |
Muadtralk |
looking like default fire |
| 15:09 |
Muadtralk |
sure! |
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PilzAdam |
animation lenght will be something like 0.5s and drawtype plantlike |
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redcrab |
ok ... I ve made the pull request ... but don't know if it is correctly done |
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PilzAdam |
looks ok |
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Muadtralk |
did it! |
| 15:17 |
Muadtralk |
looks awesome |
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Muadtralk |
well ingame atleast it feels kinda like fire |
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redcrab |
I ve may be did a mistake ... vocabulary : I said "block" for the 16x16x16 "cubes" ... I don't know but i guess that "block" should be "chunk" and "cubes" be "nodes" ... What is wrong |
| 15:19 |
babyface1031 |
hi Penguin |
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Penguin |
hi is server back |
| 15:19 |
Penguin |
:) |
| 15:19 |
Penguin |
???? |
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babyface1031 |
yes |
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PilzAdam |
block is correct for 16x16x16 nodes |
| 15:20 |
Muadtralk |
http://ompldr.org/vZ2Y4NQ/fire_basic_flame_animated.png |
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PilzAdam |
mapblock is also possible |
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PilzAdam |
but not "chunk"; thats MC |
| 15:20 |
Penguin |
Fuck Yea what has changed ? |
| 15:20 |
babyface1031 |
i will be on in a bit i found a friend i am talking to on his server right now but i will be there |
| 15:20 |
babyface1031 |
it went back to the 17th when it was backed up i have to help you remove that machine |
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Penguin |
I am not on cleaning house for my gf |
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Penguin |
oh k |
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Muadtralk |
is this okay pilzadam? |
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babyface1031 |
ok |
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PilzAdam |
Muadtralk, nice! |
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PilzAdam |
License? |
| 15:23 |
Muadtralk |
cc-by usually |
| 15:23 |
Muadtralk |
but i can license it under anything you wish |
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PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/7c6b552cc647ce251033488d62563ab69ce08ed7 |
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OldCoder |
babyface1031, Hello |
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babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
ruskie, I've made tentative arrangements for a replacement Europe server in Germany |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, Hi |
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Jordach |
hello OldCoder |
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KikaRz |
Hi OldCoder |
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KikaRz |
Hi Dogzilla |
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KikaRz |
hi iqualfragile |
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OldCoder |
KikaRz, Hello |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, speal |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, speak * |
| 15:57 |
anunakki |
hello |
| 15:57 |
anunakki |
sure |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, Can you assist? |
| 15:57 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, PM please |
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anunakki |
ok |
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OldCoder |
anunakki, I have PMd you |
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RealBadAngel |
hellou Minetest |
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RealBadAngel |
wassup? |
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PilzAdam |
sup RBA |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
weekend |
| 16:05 |
PilzAdam |
yay! |
| 16:05 |
PilzAdam |
a texture-weekend? |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
just got back from work and some shopping after it |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
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RealBadAngel |
i will make them this weekend |
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RealBadAngel |
sorry last days i had barely some time to be at the computer |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Hi! |
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RealBadAngel |
look i today, 4 am woke up, 5am off, 5pm back |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Europe server may be back shortly. And there may be a new one soon. |
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RealBadAngel |
too tired to even write corect ;) |
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RealBadAngel |
OldCoder, superb |
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Jordach |
ITZ A GERMAHN SERRVERR |
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Jordach |
(me likes changing voices) |
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RealBadAngel |
jawohl! |
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OldCoder |
Indeed |
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RealBadAngel |
== genau |
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PilzAdam |
So, wir reden ab jetzt Deutsch? |
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RealBadAngel |
warum nicht? |
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PilzAdam |
80& der Community sind sowiso Deutsch und verestehen das hier |
| 16:10 |
PilzAdam |
*80% |
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* Jordach |
is making a Mr. Monopoly skin |
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RealBadAngel |
bist du sicher? 80%? |
| 16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
ick glaub das nicht |
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PilzAdam |
Kommt mir manchmal so vor |
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Shadow_crazy |
wath create server? |
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redcrab |
????? |
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Shadow_crazy |
como cria server |
| 16:12 |
redcrab |
???? |
| 16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
aber deustch bitte... |
| 16:13 |
Shadow_crazy |
wath creat server minetest 0.4.3 |
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Jordach |
redcrab - we have german speaking right now |
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RealBadAngel |
just kidding, PilzAdam i started to make my own version of inventory |
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RealBadAngel |
its gonna be a replace for single/creative, and is compilation of 5 mods + additions |
| 16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
3/4 of work is done by now |
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PilzAdam |
Lua only? |
| 16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/inv.png |
| 16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
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* Jordach |
spots MC in the terminal sessiob |
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Jordach |
*n |
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RealBadAngel |
hmm hi hmmm |
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RealBadAngel |
Jordach, to have debug output |
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RealBadAngel |
Taoki, are you there? |
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Dogzilla131 |
can somebody help me define a dexture |
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Dogzilla131 |
*texture |
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PilzAdam |
tiles = {"your_texture_name.png"}, |
| 16:28 |
RealBadAngel |
do we have master volume control or not? |
| 16:28 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L126 |
| 16:29 |
OldCoder |
Europe VPS returning in a few minutes |
| 16:29 |
ruskie |
yay |
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RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, but this is for all of the sounds? |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
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RealBadAngel |
no matter music, farting etc... |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
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RealBadAngel |
shall i duplicate play sound and add play music to get (and introduce) two volumes? |
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OldCoder |
artur99, Hi |
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PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, no |
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artur99 |
hi |
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anunakki |
hello artur99 |
| 16:32 |
artur99 |
why europe server isnt working? |
| 16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, to mute music and have sounds? |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
or maybe its a good idea |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
maybe: master, music, other |
| 16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
having ambiance mod make music player well not workin good |
| 16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
channels shall be introduced i think |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
#env, #default_music, #ext_music |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
or somethin this way |
| 16:35 |
PilzAdam |
do not split music |
| 16:35 |
PilzAdam |
mods can define their own music setting |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
| 16:35 |
PilzAdam |
just default music |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
so thats why 2nd music channel |
| 16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
ambience can be 1st |
| 16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
2nd addons |
| 16:36 |
artur99 |
music player mod is a new mod? |
| 16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
old as hell |
| 16:37 |
artur99 |
and dose it have erors? |
| 16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AILyujYsCnU&feature=plcp |
| 16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
3 months ago |
| 16:37 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
none im aware of |
| 16:37 |
artur99 |
and now is working? |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
just put music files in technic /media directory |
| 16:38 |
artur99 |
and why the europe server isnt workin |
| 16:38 |
anunakki |
OldCoder and I are working on the europe server right now, i'm not sure what the status is 100% but he should know |
| 16:38 |
artur99 |
g? |
| 16:38 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
because we are using ambiance mod |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and theres no way to mute one and listen to another |
| 16:39 |
artur99 |
and when will u and oldcoder finish working there? |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
A few minutes |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
artur99, there may be a problem related to Romania |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
We may need to discuss this in the future |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
ruskie says the server slows down when you connect |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
A network issue of some time |
| 16:42 |
artur99 |
aaa, and on this problem are u working... |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
* some type |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
No; on repairing the world after a crash |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, are you here? |
| 16:42 |
artur99 |
me? |
| 16:43 |
artur99 |
i think the server slows because there are more players on it |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
artur99, We will test |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I will also make another Europe server |
| 16:44 |
artur99 |
when? |
| 16:44 |
OldCoder |
Possibly in December |
| 16:44 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 16:45 |
artur99 |
now is europe server disponible? |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
That is not a word |
| 16:45 |
artur99 |
realy? |
| 16:45 |
artur99 |
*accesible |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
dispensible == dispinsible |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
Disponible |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
But we may need to move it |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
artur99, ruskie, Jordach: |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
hm? |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
I need people to look for patterns of timeouts |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 16:46 |
* Jordach |
is getting an iPad |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
(i wont be here much more for one week) |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 16:46 |
artur99 |
can i try to connect? |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
Soon |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - i'll start using a web irc client for a while |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
Everything is in order |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, k |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
(until i can get to my tower again) |
| 16:46 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 16:48 |
ruskie |
I'm here |
| 16:49 |
artur99 |
can i play on a lan connection? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 16:50 |
artur99 |
how? |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
|
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
Attention: Europe VPS is up again for now. We regret any inconvenience. |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
Report patterns of network timeouts |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
See if they happen when many people come; or if they are tied to a particular county |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
*country |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
A new Europe VPS may arrive in the future |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
Have fun! |
| 16:51 |
OldCoder |
|
| 16:52 |
artur99 |
oldcoder, can u test now if the server is lower when i connect? |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
No... I think ruskie needs to and he is AFK. We will need to look for patterns over time. |
| 16:52 |
OldCoder |
For now, go play and see what happens for you |
| 16:53 |
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| 16:53 |
artur99 |
what is afk? |
| 16:53 |
artur99 |
:D |
| 16:53 |
ruskie |
I'm on |
| 16:54 |
ruskie |
no issue so far |
| 16:55 |
ruskie |
and I have lag |
| 16:55 |
ruskie |
seems to happen and go away |
| 16:56 |
ruskie |
and now ok |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
artur99, AFK means Away From keyboard |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
artur99, ruskie: When anunakki returns... |
| 16:56 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
say hello and thank you |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
It is his server |
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| 16:57 |
OldCoder |
Don't jump to conclusions about lag. I will build new code in December and we will see. |
| 16:57 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, welcome back |
| 16:57 |
OldCoder |
People are enjoying the world again |
| 16:57 |
anunakki |
perfect |
| 16:57 |
ruskie |
thanks |
| 16:57 |
anunakki |
glad we could get that out of the way |
| 16:58 |
ruskie |
hmm still laggy |
| 16:58 |
ruskie |
I craft a ton of torches... and watch getting 4 every few seconds instead of each click |
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| 17:04 |
ruskie |
well crafting seems to lag and some loading of areas but so far seems ok... will report if anything else happens odd |
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| 17:08 |
rubenwardy |
hi all |
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| 17:09 |
ecube |
hey |
| 17:10 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, can you check if anything weird is happening |
| 17:10 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, I've been laying down blocks and I still have the same amount of them in my inventory |
| 17:11 |
KikaRz |
O_O' |
| 17:11 |
rubenwardy |
thexyz: you can close http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52991 now |
| 17:11 |
KikaRz |
Going to change XChat Theme |
| 17:12 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, artur's brother joined... I've now tried a exit to OS and my game is stuck on shuting down stuff |
| 17:12 |
KikaRz |
Ctrl + C |
| 17:12 |
KikaRz |
In the console |
| 17:13 |
ruskie |
no shit sherlock... trying to figure out what's actually causing it |
| 17:14 |
* RealBadAngel |
is havin pizza time |
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| 17:15 |
Calinou |
"You can merge this Pull Request by running: git pull https://github.com/redcrab/minetest master" |
| 17:15 |
Calinou |
github emails |
| 17:15 |
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| 17:15 |
Calinou |
y u think i have write access |
| 17:15 |
KikaRz |
back |
| 17:15 |
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| 17:15 |
Calinou |
wb |
| 17:15 |
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| 17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
you, who? |
| 17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
hi calinou |
| 17:16 |
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| 17:16 |
KikaRz |
so |
| 17:16 |
KikaRz |
what are you doing guys? |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
nothing right now |
| 17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
we are not doing guys |
| 17:17 |
M13_ |
KikaRz did you want to play on my server? |
| 17:17 |
KikaRz |
depends. |
| 17:17 |
Renoki |
Hey guys, heard a lot about Minetest on 4chan, about to try it out now. |
| 17:17 |
KikaRz |
im good at building |
| 17:18 |
RealBadAngel |
im havin a pizza |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
Renoki |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
Enter on the Website and start playing :) |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
openarena now :) |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
http://minetest.net |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
(server is normal CTF for stupids) |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
no insult, it's the name of the server :P |
| 17:18 |
M13_ |
you can come KikaRz its creative |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
what a fucking good name. |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
M13 |
| 17:18 |
KikaRz |
IP. |
| 17:19 |
KikaRz |
I got many original ideas :) |
| 17:19 |
Renoki |
do all servers run on the latest? |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
M13_, Hi |
| 17:19 |
Renoki |
0.4.3, right? |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
Renoki, no |
| 17:19 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, hmm now I can't connect at all |
| 17:19 |
KikaRz |
Downloading OpenArena |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, That is interesting |
| 17:19 |
M13_ |
IP : m13.servegame.com Port : 30001 |
| 17:19 |
KikaRz |
Yes Renoki. |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, But is it Romania? Or something else |
| 17:19 |
KikaRz |
M13_ |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, If they disconnect will you work? |
| 17:19 |
KikaRz |
let me just download OpenArena |
| 17:20 |
OldCoder |
18:20:03: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:65302(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=3753 |
| 17:20 |
Renoki |
uh.. |
| 17:20 |
* RealBadAngel |
is in the mood for some headshots |
| 17:20 |
OldCoder |
I am getting those again |
| 17:20 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, well when I was on artur99 joined and was able to play... then his brother joined and I could plaoce stuff but my inventory didn't get updated |
| 17:20 |
KikaRz |
M13_, im going soon OK? |
| 17:20 |
OldCoder |
M13_, PM today |
| 17:20 |
M13_ |
ok ill be on |
| 17:20 |
Renoki |
oh derp, it's in /bin |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, let's see if it works if they leave |
| 17:21 |
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| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I can turn Romania off and on but not today; I need to work IRL now for a while |
| 17:21 |
ruskie |
not a prob |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
18:21:32: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 84.20.228.4:39180(t/o=0.73657): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=2 |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
18:21:33: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 84.20.228.4:39180(t/o=0.957542): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=2 |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
Now I see those. Is 84.20.228.4 you? |
| 17:21 |
ruskie |
yup |
| 17:21 |
ruskie |
I disconnecet |
| 17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
Oldcoder, you want to disable Taoki for example? |
| 17:21 |
ruskie |
but got hung during disconnect |
| 17:22 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, explain |
| 17:22 |
OldCoder |
Here is a test |
| 17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
shes from Romania |
| 17:22 |
OldCoder |
Is she on? |
| 17:22 |
Renoki |
holy crap |
| 17:22 |
OldCoder |
? |
| 17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 17:22 |
Renoki |
this game is smooooooooth compared to Minecraft |
| 17:22 |
OldCoder |
Renoki, except for network timeouts |
| 17:22 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 17:22 |
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| 17:22 |
KikaRz |
Renoki, it's a clone. |
| 17:23 |
Doc22 |
hello peoplez |
| 17:23 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, can you connect to europe? |
| 17:23 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, RealBadAngel no point in disconnecting Taoki |
| 17:23 |
OldCoder |
Doc22, hi |
| 17:23 |
Doc22 |
hey oc |
| 17:23 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, RealBadAngel I will restart Europe now |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
<KikaRz> Downloading OpenArena |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
cool :D |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
for those who want it btw, website is openarena.ws |
| 17:23 |
OldCoder |
Allow a few minutes |
| 17:23 |
OldCoder |
I will be here now all day but can't work here much; I am researching MySQL IRL |
| 17:24 |
OldCoder |
Whoa! |
| 17:24 |
M13_ |
what is OpenArena? |
| 17:24 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, RealBadAngel I am seeing 107% CPU! |
| 17:24 |
OldCoder |
What does *that* mean? |
| 17:25 |
ruskie |
is it multicore? |
| 17:25 |
OldCoder |
Nope |
| 17:25 |
OldCoder |
VPS |
| 17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
yore facin a birth of a small cpu? |
| 17:25 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 17:25 |
OldCoder |
Maybe timeouts are a different issue |
| 17:25 |
ruskie |
could possibly be a VPS artifact but sounds like an infinite loop or something |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
or 7% just new born little cute core |
| 17:26 |
OldCoder |
Time is 33:37 already |
| 17:26 |
ruskie |
maybe it's time to do that leveldb migration? |
| 17:26 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
agree |
| 17:26 |
OldCoder |
But can't until next week. I really do need to work. |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
Somebody is waiting for me right now in Finland |
| 17:27 |
ruskie |
then go do work |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
Soon as we settle the current issue. This is odd. |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
there we go |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
Restarted and CPU back down |
| 17:27 |
OldCoder |
Let's see what triggers that! |
| 17:27 |
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| 17:27 |
ruskie |
connecting |
| 17:28 |
ruskie |
and I'm on |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
Hi all |
| 17:28 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, RealBadAngel I think it's that we're near the limits of what this VPS can do |
| 17:28 |
OldCoder |
OdnetninI, Hi! |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
can anyone say me how to solve this: |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6829/screenshot776851868.png |
| 17:28 |
Renoki |
how often is this game updated? |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
the space in cactus |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
and error messages |
| 17:29 |
Renoki |
also, are the developers trying to make an exact Minecraft clone? |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, the textures for the cactus have transparent pixels at the side; remove them |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
Renoki, no |
| 17:29 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, well artur, his bro and me are now on |
| 17:29 |
OldCoder |
And CPU > 100% |
| 17:29 |
OdnetninI |
I want to reduce the size of cactus |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
you need to use nodebox for that |
| 17:30 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, If problems persist I see migration to another VPS as the main option though we'll try LevelDB |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
and even for that you have to remove the transparent pixels |
| 17:31 |
ruskie |
yeah I'm locked up again |
| 17:31 |
ruskie |
I can place blocks but inventory doesn't do anything |
| 17:31 |
OdnetninI |
this? |
| 17:31 |
OdnetninI |
{ -- A fixed box (facedir param2 is used, if applicable) type = "fixed", fixed = box OR {box1, box2, ...} } |
| 17:31 |
ruskie |
I'll wait a bit |
| 17:31 |
ruskie |
see if it clears up |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, @errormessages: you call minetestn.env:set_node() with a node that doesnt exist |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1359 |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdam |
and drawtype "nodebox" |
| 17:32 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, anything in the "top" cpu line? is it waiting for something or something else |
| 17:32 |
OldCoder |
Elaborate on waiting |
| 17:33 |
ruskie |
(s): 5.6%us, 2.1%sy, 3.2%ni, 88.9%id, 0.1%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st <-- wa is wait time |
| 17:33 |
ruskie |
which of those is actually being used |
| 17:33 |
OdnetninI |
any form to know who is the node that doesn't exist? |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Cpu(s): 27.5%us, 4.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 68.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Wrong window |
| 17:33 |
ruskie |
heh |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, check your code ;-); you probably misstyped something |
| 17:34 |
OldCoder |
Cpu(s): 46.5%us, 13.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 39.4%id, 0.4%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
| 17:34 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, ^ |
| 17:34 |
OdnetninI |
mmm |
| 17:34 |
ruskie |
odd |
| 17:34 |
ruskie |
that seems mostly normal |
| 17:35 |
ruskie |
a high wait time could signify an I/O issue or something |
| 17:35 |
ruskie |
but this looks just "it's working" |
| 17:35 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, can you connect to europe atm? |
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| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
people |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
why in one server |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
im frozen in node definition? |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
What server |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
m13 |
| 17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i cant |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
not uour |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
*your |
| 17:38 |
KikaRz |
'-' |
| 17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
is down |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
KikaRz - when in doubt - keep calm and sloooowwwww down |
| 17:39 |
OdnetninI |
node_box = {3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5, 3.5}, |
| 17:39 |
OdnetninI |
it doesn't work |
| 17:41 |
OdnetninI |
any help? |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
{-0.5,-0.5,-0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5} is the default size |
| 17:42 |
KikaRz |
LOL |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
also you node is 0 dimensional |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
*your |
| 17:44 |
OdnetninI |
-- Cactus minetest.register_node("default:cactus", { description = "Cactus", tiles = {"default_cactus_top.png", "default_cactus_top.png", "default_cactus_side.png"}, is_ground_content = true, node_box = {-0.0,-0.0,-0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0}, groups = {snappy=2,choppy=3,flammable=2}, sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(), }) |
| 17:44 |
OdnetninI |
I tryes many sizes |
| 17:44 |
OdnetninI |
but nothing |
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| 17:44 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 17:44 |
KikaRz |
Welcome Kacey :) |
| 17:45 |
Kacey |
i am working on a new mod |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
Kacey |
| 17:45 |
PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, you should read a bit to understand how nodeboxes work |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
do not work into 10 mods at the same time |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
just in 1 |
| 17:45 |
KikaRz |
it ll give you more time to do |
| 17:45 |
Kacey |
i am only working on one right now |
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| 17:55 |
OdnetninI |
I got the size, but i have black nodes |
| 17:56 |
PilzAdam |
paramtype = "light", |
| 17:57 |
OdnetninI |
Same |
| 17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
rba.groups={bed=1} |
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| 17:57 |
RealBadAngel |
cya |
| 17:58 |
hmmmm |
Everybody's partyin' partyin' |
| 17:58 |
hmmmm |
YEAH! |
| 17:58 |
hmmmm |
partyin' partyin' YEAH! |
| 17:58 |
hmmmm |
fun, fun, fun, fun having fun on the weekend |
| 17:58 |
OdnetninI |
PilzAdam, the same result |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 17:58 |
RBA_bedtime |
stop stomping :P trying to get some sleep :P |
| 17:58 |
hmmmm |
it's Rebecca Black Friday everyone |
| 17:59 |
artur99 |
now europe server isnt working on my computer |
| 17:59 |
OdnetninI |
no? |
| 18:00 |
artur99 |
no |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
Is it working for others? |
| 18:00 |
OdnetninI |
no what? |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
19:00:28: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:19352(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65508 |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
19:00:29: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:19352(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65507 |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
I see those timeouts |
| 18:00 |
OldCoder |
It is network issue again |
| 18:01 |
artur99 |
on my pc? |
| 18:01 |
artur99 |
what should i do? |
| 18:01 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, no |
| 18:01 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, You are not able to connect? |
| 18:01 |
ruskie |
no |
| 18:02 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, see some 30 minutes ago in the chat log here |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
CPU is at 100% |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing |
| 18:02 |
OdnetninI |
ok, now i solve it |
| 18:02 |
ruskie |
ups |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I saw that |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
Not clear on point |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
CPU is at 125% now |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
Hmm! |
| 18:02 |
OldCoder |
TIME is at 45:03.80 |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
That can't be right |
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| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
What is it doing? |
| 18:03 |
ruskie |
maybe attach strace to it? |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
Cpu(s): 48.1%us, 8.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 43.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 18:03 |
OldCoder |
But can't do that today |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
Theory... |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
We are slipping into an odd High CPU state |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
3494 root 20 0 160m 50m 3736 S 142 10.3 46:59.83 minetestserver |
| 18:04 |
artur99 |
so i cant play anymore today? |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
Thoughts on those two lines? |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
artur99, wait |
| 18:04 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 18:04 |
OldCoder |
Am I right? Is the 46:59 very odd? |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Really bizarre CPU usage |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Could this be a VPS glitch? |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
your VPS has several threads then |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
Probably |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
you can have one physical CPU and several "threads" (as in virtual cores) |
| 18:05 |
OldCoder |
artur99, could you stay off for a while? |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
my netbook has one physical CPU, two threads, iirc |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
hyperthreading |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
and my desktop too :P |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
I'd like ruskie to try when you're not there |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
yes |
| 18:06 |
artur99 |
ofcorse |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
One theory |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
Is that network is failing and then looping somehow |
| 18:06 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Restarting again |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, If you are here connect now for a while |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
connecting |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
artur99, end the game for today |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
We need to test |
| 18:07 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
There will be a new VPS if needed |
| 18:07 |
OldCoder |
But I need to find out what is happening |
| 18:07 |
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| 18:08 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131, wb |
| 18:08 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, well I'm on and am able to build... I'll run for a while |
| 18:09 |
OldCoder |
Possible network bug |
| 18:09 |
OldCoder |
C55 has a patch I need to try |
| 18:11 |
artur99 |
now is working :) |
| 18:11 |
artur99 |
:D |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
artur99, we wished you not to connect. This is a test. |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, let me know what happens |
| 18:15 |
ruskie |
well so far it's working |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
But there are no changes |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
So it could go at any time |
| 18:15 |
ruskie |
both artur and his brother are on |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
Let me know |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 18:15 |
OldCoder |
odd |
| 18:16 |
artur99 |
so must i disconnect? |
| 18:17 |
OldCoder |
Not yet |
| 18:17 |
OldCoder |
See what happens |
| 18:18 |
artur99 |
i disconected... should i connect again? |
| 18:18 |
OldCoder |
Go ahead |
| 18:18 |
OldCoder |
For the moment |
| 18:21 |
ruskie |
so far everything seems to be working |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
lolFirewall errors |
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| 18:29 |
Jordach |
hay NekoGloop |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: Hello. |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
PMC laggin again |
| 18:30 |
NekoGloop |
Wut? |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
planetmc |
| 18:31 |
NekoGloop |
Ah. |
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| 18:40 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 18:41 |
Kacey |
did doc leave? |
| 18:44 |
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| 18:44 |
Kacey |
wb |
| 18:44 |
redcrab |
hi... redcrab's server map generation is expanded now ... from 3000x3000 to 8640x8640 ... viewable at http://minetestbb.suret.net/w01.html ... takes time to download ... |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
oh damn |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
also http://i.imgur.com/XkY1B.png |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
Y U ADD NEW PUN BOT MESSAGE |
| 18:45 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 18:45 |
KikaRz |
M13 left :( |
| 18:45 |
Kacey |
FTW!!!!!! sorry what? |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
oh dear: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/ext/help/help.jpeg |
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| 18:50 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, I think it's happening again |
| 18:50 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Reviewing |
| 18:50 |
artur99 |
yes |
| 18:50 |
artur99 |
to me too |
| 18:50 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
CPU at 128% |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
and... Hold on |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
19:49:48: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:44431(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=8 |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
19:49:49: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:44431(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=7 |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
This again |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
who is M13_ friend? |
| 18:51 |
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| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
artur99, would you mind leaving for the day? |
| 18:51 |
Calinou |
madchicken13 |
| 18:51 |
OldCoder |
Also known as Ubuntu Nerd |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
yep |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
i know |
| 18:51 |
KikaRz |
ubuntu nerd = m13 owner. |
| 18:52 |
KikaRz |
he was offering me a server *-* |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
Not exactly |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, interesting... I got the message that the server is shutting down |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, I restarted |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
Next step |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
is for artur99 to stay off |
| 18:52 |
OldCoder |
I wish to see if Romania timeouts are doing this |
| 18:52 |
artur99 |
im here |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
artur99, stay off the server for now please |
| 18:53 |
artur99 |
so should i close the game for now? |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
This is an experiment |
| 18:53 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
Yes please |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
No more today |
| 18:53 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, ready to try again; proceed |
| 18:53 |
OldCoder |
Simply build for an hour |
| 18:53 |
ruskie |
will do |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
iulyus01 is there |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
artur99, is that your brother? |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
artur99, can you pull him off? |
| 18:54 |
artur99 |
now he is out |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
He still shows up there |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
Sign him out please |
| 18:54 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 18:55 |
OldCoder |
Let us try for an hour without Romania |
| 18:55 |
artur99 |
on his computer, the game isnt opened |
| 18:55 |
Kacey |
iririririririririririr |
| 18:57 |
artur99 |
oldcoder, can i play on lan with my brother? |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
run server on brother's computer: go to advanced menu, put no address and port 30000 |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
once the server is started, type "ipconfig" in windows' command line on brother computer |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
note the "IPV4 IP" |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
go to your computer, enter that IP, port 30000 |
| 18:58 |
Calinou |
connect :) |
| 18:58 |
OldCoder |
artur99, Sure |
| 18:58 |
artur99 |
thanks |
| 18:58 |
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| 18:58 |
Kacey |
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh freaking errors |
| 19:01 |
artur99 |
calinou, where is the windows command line? |
| 19:02 |
NekoGloop |
artur99: run cmd.exe |
| 19:02 |
Kacey |
type in cmd in the run menu |
| 19:02 |
NekoGloop |
You fool. |
| 19:02 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 19:02 |
Kacey |
who wants to help make a nuclear disaster map? |
| 19:03 |
artur99 |
tahnks, is working |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
hey |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
whats jungle wood planks code? |
| 19:04 |
KikaRz |
need that for worldedit |
| 19:05 |
Kacey |
Calinou created the mod for that |
| 19:05 |
OdnetninI |
PilzAdam, in your farming mod, rarity-p, what is it? |
| 19:06 |
OdnetninI |
in hoes.lua |
| 19:08 |
PilzAdam |
every seed has a rarity (rarity) and every hoe has a different probability to get seeds (p) |
| 19:08 |
OdnetninI |
ok |
| 19:08 |
OdnetninI |
thanks |
| 19:08 |
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| 19:09 |
OdnetninI |
who was making a new mapgen? |
| 19:09 |
PilzAdam |
hmmmm |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
me |
| 19:09 |
OdnetninI |
how do you go? |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
i'm still working on it |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
just been busy |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
i just need to debug it a little, but the code is all done |
| 19:10 |
OdnetninI |
ok |
| 19:11 |
OdnetninI |
when do you need a tester, i'm here |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
sure |
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| 19:12 |
hmmmm |
agrh okay, back |
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| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
m13 offline |
| 19:15 |
KikaRz |
omg |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
omg? |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/7xNV9.png |
| 19:18 |
KikaRz |
Hate when servers shut down and dont give us any message |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
Fez = ? |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
Tassam = ? |
| 19:19 |
KikaRz |
*Tassel |
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| 19:30 |
OdnetninI |
how can i do this: |
| 19:30 |
OdnetninI |
inventory_image = "tools/default_tool_stonesword.png", |
| 19:30 |
OdnetninI |
it give me an error |
| 19:30 |
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| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
m13, please relogin :'( |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
omg |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
he's offline |
| 19:31 |
OldCoder |
omg? |
| 19:31 |
KikaRz |
* [hmmmm] is logged in as hmmmm |
| 19:32 |
OdnetninI |
any suggestion to load img in subfolder? |
| 19:34 |
OdnetninI |
? |
| 19:35 |
OdnetninI |
anyone? |
| 19:45 |
artur99 |
@oldcoder, finish thesting? |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, still there? |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
artur99, checking |
| 19:45 |
ruskie |
yeah I'll log off |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, wait |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
Not yet |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
artur99, rejoin now |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, let's see if things break when they come back |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
artur99, your brother can come too |
| 19:46 |
artur99 |
right now |
| 19:47 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 19:47 |
OldCoder |
Play and see if it breaks |
| 19:47 |
ruskie |
well already broke for me |
| 19:47 |
ruskie |
can't dig |
| 19:47 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 19:47 |
artur99 |
cut on me still loading |
| 19:48 |
artur99 |
*but |
| 19:48 |
ruskie |
or could just be mining drill |
| 19:48 |
artur99 |
:) |
| 19:48 |
ruskie |
hmm nope |
| 19:48 |
ruskie |
just dug up a bunch of sand and no update in my inventor |
| 19:48 |
ruskie |
y |
| 19:49 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, So there is definitely an issue? |
| 19:49 |
ruskie |
yeah now I'll stay off and let them be on and see if something happens |
| 19:49 |
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| 19:49 |
ruskie |
seems like the server is blocking again |
| 19:50 |
anunnaki |
hmm |
| 19:50 |
anunnaki |
what exactly is it blocking? |
| 19:50 |
artur99 |
i cant connect |
| 19:50 |
anunnaki |
i'll have to check |
| 19:50 |
artur99 |
connecting to server |
| 19:50 |
ruskie |
well I went off now |
| 19:50 |
ruskie |
I won't connect for today |
| 19:50 |
ruskie |
so that we can see if just artur and his brother on it works fine |
| 19:50 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, I think you'll need to restart it |
| 19:51 |
artur99 |
on me is connecting to server, but isnt loading... |
| 19:51 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, all right |
| 19:51 |
OldCoder |
artur99, hold on |
| 19:51 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 19:52 |
OldCoder |
anunnaki, are you logged in there? |
| 19:52 |
OldCoder |
I see somebody in nano |
| 19:52 |
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| 19:53 |
OldCoder |
And *nano* is taking half the CPU?! |
| 19:53 |
ruskie |
if it's doing syntax highlighting it could |
| 19:53 |
OldCoder |
killed it |
| 19:54 |
ruskie |
could have checked with 'w' |
| 19:54 |
ruskie |
to see who was running it |
| 19:54 |
OldCoder |
Not the user |
| 19:54 |
OldCoder |
Restarting\ |
| 19:55 |
artur99 |
you should harry up with the new server :) |
| 19:55 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I have work to do IRL |
| 19:55 |
OldCoder |
artur99, you can join now |
| 19:55 |
OldCoder |
So can Julius |
| 19:55 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 19:55 |
OldCoder |
Tell me if it breaks for you |
| 19:56 |
OldCoder |
If it breaks, I am sorry; but this means a problem for Romania |
| 19:56 |
OldCoder |
In that case you can try the Germany server later on |
| 19:56 |
artur99 |
now is loading |
| 19:57 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 19:57 |
artur99 |
working fine |
| 19:57 |
artur99 |
is ok now |
| 19:57 |
artur99 |
just 0.5 secondl lately, but working |
| 19:59 |
ruskie |
artur99, in case it stops working just report it in here |
| 19:59 |
KikaRz |
3x7r471n6 0p3n 4R3N4 |
| 20:00 |
artur99 |
ok |
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artur99 |
happens this: |
| 20:02 |
KikaRz |
OpenArena IS TOOO MUCH LAGGY |
| 20:02 |
artur99 |
when i dig something, that block dispears |
| 20:02 |
artur99 |
and than apears |
| 20:02 |
artur99 |
and than dispear |
| 20:05 |
OldCoder |
artur99, ? |
| 20:05 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I don't think Romania will work for this server |
| 20:05 |
OldCoder |
Checking the logs now |
| 20:06 |
artur99 |
but this happends just 1 of 10 block, but others are working |
| 20:06 |
OldCoder |
artur99, try this for now |
| 20:06 |
OldCoder |
artur99, Turn on Full Range Viewing |
| 20:06 |
OldCoder |
using the R key if it is not already on |
| 20:06 |
OldCoder |
Does this help? |
| 20:07 |
artur99 |
waiat to try |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
artur99, Turn on Full Range Viewing |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
using the R key if it is not already on |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Does this help? |
| 20:07 |
artur99 |
yes |
| 20:07 |
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| 20:07 |
artur99 |
nows working perfect |
| 20:07 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 20:08 |
artur99 |
or not |
| 20:08 |
artur99 |
that bug again |
| 20:09 |
artur99 |
dispear. after 0.5 sec apear. after 0.5 sec dispear forever, and apear in interviory |
| 20:09 |
artur99 |
but not at all blocks |
| 20:10 |
OldCoder |
Checking |
| 20:10 |
OldCoder |
Not seeing the problem in logs |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
What do you guys think? |
| 20:11 |
rubenwardy |
http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/ |
| 20:11 |
artur99 |
my brother dosent have this nug... |
| 20:11 |
artur99 |
probably i have a low ram... |
| 20:11 |
artur99 |
i have windows 7, with 3 gb ram... |
| 20:13 |
OldCoder |
3GB? |
| 20:13 |
OldCoder |
artur99, that is a lot of RAM |
| 20:13 |
artur99 |
my brother have 6 |
| 20:14 |
OldCoder |
artur99, that is a lot of RAM! |
| 20:14 |
artur99 |
gb |
| 20:14 |
artur99 |
yes, but windows 7 is taking 2 gb just for rulling windows |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
Ugh |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
O.K. Could be an issue |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy forums work alright |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
looks good too |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I will probably use that theme for my MT site |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
And may merge parts with rubenwardy |
| 20:16 |
OldCoder |
Not sure about running PunBB yet. I'd need admins. |
| 20:18 |
rubenwardy |
you do not need to, you can disable the top-right login bit |
| 20:19 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Website/blob/master/README.md#punbb |
| 20:19 |
Jordach |
OldCoder - first for mod |
| 20:20 |
rubenwardy |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53194 |
| 20:20 |
artur99 |
@oldcoder, my brother is blocked, he cant move |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
lol: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446470425400153&set=a.200542726659592.50788.199098633470668&type=1&theater |
| 20:22 |
rubenwardy |
gtg now |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
artur99, Blocked how? |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
artur99, Does he need to be teleported? |
| 20:24 |
artur99 |
he reconneceted |
| 20:24 |
OldCoder |
And? |
| 20:24 |
artur99 |
now is connecting |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 20:25 |
* OldCoder |
will be away for 10 minutes |
| 20:25 |
artur99 |
but, isnt loading |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I am checking |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
He timed out |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I fear that your Internet is not up to this server |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
I see the network problem again |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
21:24:49: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 213.233.92.96:65435(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65524 |
| 20:25 |
OldCoder |
|
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
I am sorry but I don't think it will work for you two |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
You can try the Germany server if I set it up |
| 20:26 |
artur99 |
our speed is 15 kb/sec for both |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
Explain to your brother Julius that both of you are welcome; but I am afraid you probably can't play here |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
15 kb/sec ? |
| 20:26 |
OldCoder |
Is that normal for you? |
| 20:26 |
artur99 |
so my is 7kb/sec and he's too |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Is that normal for you? |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Is this dialup? |
| 20:27 |
artur99 |
yyes |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
!! |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I am sorry |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
You cannot play Minetest reliably with dialup |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
You will need to play offline |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
but it shows how bandwidth friendly it is |
| 20:27 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
It certainly does! |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I must take a break |
| 20:28 |
artur99 |
but in every month on 8 i have 4 gb trafic with big speed |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
For how long, artur99 ? |
| 20:28 |
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| 20:28 |
artur99 |
on 8 in every month i have that trafic |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I need to take a short break; can you figure out what he is saying? Thank you |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, ^ |
| 20:28 |
OldCoder |
8 what? |
| 20:28 |
artur99 |
when i finish it, i have the connection with 15 kb |
| 20:28 |
Jordach |
yes, dont need to hl twice |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, problem is that artur99 and julius are dialup! |
| 20:29 |
artur99 |
day 8 |
| 20:29 |
OldCoder |
artur99, you can't use dialup for the server; I am sorry |
| 20:29 |
artur99 |
what is dialup? |
| 20:30 |
artur99 |
when ill have the big connection(200kb/sec - 8mb/sec) can i pl;ay? |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 20:31 |
artur99 |
and that bug is because we have low speed? |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
yes, artur99 andto be fair, i've lived without the internet for 15 years without dialup / broadband |
| 20:32 |
artur99 |
im 13, and i have internet 2 years ago >) |
| 20:32 |
artur99 |
*:) |
| 20:36 |
artur99 |
oh, my f... of s... connection! |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
artur99 - yeah, my school USED TO have dial up, twas horrible loading short clips |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
Buy a better |
| 20:42 |
KikaRz |
internet |
| 20:42 |
artur99 |
if i want to see a you tube film(3 minutes) it is loading in 30 minutes |
| 20:42 |
artur99 |
there is no beter in my area... |
| 20:43 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I am sorry |
| 20:43 |
OldCoder |
artur99, I must ask you not to play on the Europe world |
| 20:43 |
artur99 |
on 8 day in every month ill play the game |
| 20:43 |
artur99 |
ill not play... |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
artur99, you must avoid dialup days. So must Julius. |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
If you come on dialup days we must block you. |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Sorry. |
| 20:44 |
artur99 |
what is to avoid? |
| 20:44 |
artur99 |
to upgradE? |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Do not come except when Internet is fast |
| 20:44 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
If it is a day with dialup do not play or you will harm the other players |
| 20:44 |
artur99 |
i must go to bed, bye! |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Please explain this to your brother |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Good night |
| 20:45 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
It has been an interesting year |
| 20:45 |
ruskie |
hmm |
| 20:45 |
ruskie |
interesting |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Let me op you |
| 20:45 |
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| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
If they come and this happens you can ban |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
artur99, wb |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
ruskie, Do you object to joining RBA as op? |
| 20:46 |
artur99 |
so can i play when on the server there is nobody? |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
It will not work |
| 20:46 |
ruskie |
OldCoder, I don't mind |
| 20:46 |
artur99 |
aaa |
| 20:46 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
May damage the world |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
Sorry! |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
artur99, You need broadband |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
But you can play offline |
| 20:46 |
artur99 |
ok |
| 20:46 |
artur99 |
bye |
| 20:46 |
OldCoder |
with your brother using LAN |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
Bye |
| 20:47 |
artur99 |
go to sleep |
| 20:47 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 20:48 |
ruskie |
sorry to hear that the dialup is the problem though |
| 20:49 |
OldCoder |
As Jordach said it does show MT is flexible |
| 20:49 |
OldCoder |
They nearly work! |
| 20:50 |
ruskie |
well they did play for a month with no real problems |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
Interesting |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
so yes, it DOES WORK on older hardware indeed |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
See if the problem occurs with other people |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
Whereas MC does not |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
AFAIK |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
56k modems included |
| 20:50 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xk5RlOkl9A |
| 20:50 |
ruskie |
it could be that something change since that hw failure? |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 20:50 |
OldCoder |
But I don't see enough to tell me |
| 20:51 |
OldCoder |
See if performance is usually the same |
| 20:51 |
OldCoder |
The software has not been modified as RBA has been busy |
| 20:51 |
OldCoder |
So not much should be different |
| 20:51 |
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| 20:53 |
Jordach |
hello Muadtralk |
| 20:53 |
Muadtralk |
salut |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
Oi Muad |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk, can you change second server (building one) to creative mode? |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
i wanted |
| 20:54 |
KikaRz |
:p |
| 20:54 |
Muadtralk |
never! |
| 20:54 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 20:55 |
Muadtralk |
creative mode is the bane of my existence |
| 20:55 |
Muadtralk |
if it were up to me minetest wouldnt have it |
| 20:55 |
Muadtralk |
i dont even use it for testing mods |
| 20:56 |
KikaRz |
muad |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 20:56 |
Muadtralk |
in fact..... i deleted the creative folder to save space |
| 20:56 |
Muadtralk |
so i no longer have it |
| 20:58 |
Muadtralk |
it was so worth 4 kb of extra space |
| 20:58 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
| 21:00 |
harrison |
I don't know how to respond. |
| 21:00 |
OldCoder |
harrison, are you a bot? |
| 21:00 |
harrison |
No. I am a coder. |
| 21:01 |
OldCoder |
harrison, Pass the Turing Test. Tell us what you code. |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 21:01 |
harrison |
Did you see the movie linked just now? |
| 21:01 |
OldCoder |
harrison, Pass the Turing Test. Tell us what you code. |
| 21:01 |
harrison |
I coded the raytracer that made that movie |
| 21:01 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 21:01 |
OldCoder |
Welcome, then, Coder |
| 21:01 |
harrison |
of course there was postproduction in cinelerra |
| 21:02 |
harrison |
and also i had to use kdenlive for one step because ffmpeg encodes a file from screen capture |
| 21:02 |
harrison |
that the latest cinelerra can't open properly |
| 21:02 |
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| 21:03 |
harrison |
so i transcode in kdenlive |
| 21:03 |
Penguin |
Hey Everyone |
| 21:03 |
harrison |
oh , john_minetest, almost nobody understands what i do or say |
| 21:04 |
harrison |
did you read aeschylus ever? remember cassandra's curse? |
| 21:04 |
harrison |
i have a mild version of it |
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| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
BACK |
| 21:04 |
KikaRz |
OMG |
| 21:05 |
KikaRz |
stupid internet cable |
| 21:05 |
harrison |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra |
| 21:05 |
harrison |
When Cassandra of Troy told him she wanted to stay a virgin,[citation needed] Apollo placed a curse on her so that she and all her descendants' predictions would not be believed. |
| 21:05 |
harrison |
Cassandra's curse is not a game. I was making a classical reference. |
| 21:06 |
harrison |
Since you had no idea what I meant, and I was attempting to describe a condition of inability to make oneself understood, there is a bittersweet selfreferntial flavor to this chat. |
| 21:07 |
harrison |
Now do I seem like a bot? |
| 21:07 |
Penguin |
Playing slender |
| 21:09 |
Penguin |
:) |
| 21:11 |
OldCoder |
harrison, I did say Welcome :-) |
| 21:12 |
OldCoder |
harrison, And... |
| 21:12 |
OldCoder |
harrison, go up against *me* on that type of thing and you may be surprised. I am not precisely standard model either. |
| 21:13 |
OldCoder |
It has taken me half a century to get to the point where I am able to have a conversation of this type reliably |
| 21:13 |
OldCoder |
|
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
harrison, If harrison is neurologically different he may PM me something to talk if this seems useful or appropriate |
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
|
| 21:14 |
Muadtralk |
? |
| 21:14 |
Muadtralk |
oldcoder check that statement |
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
*sometime not something |
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
^ Is that what you meant? Noticed the typo |
| 21:14 |
Muadtralk |
different thing |
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
I don't make them when I'm writing. This is more like speech. |
| 21:14 |
OldCoder |
Which statement? |
| 21:15 |
Muadtralk |
harrison, If harrison |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
I know what I said |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
It was intentional |
| 21:15 |
Muadtralk |
capital I? |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
I know what I said |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
It was intentional |
| 21:15 |
Muadtralk |
with a comma |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 21:15 |
OldCoder |
Muadtralk, I am working IRL today. Is there anything significant that needs to be discussed? |
| 21:16 |
Muadtralk |
nope! |
| 21:16 |
Muadtralk |
i was just pointing out some errors |
| 21:17 |
OldCoder |
Singular |
| 21:17 |
OldCoder |
I noticed one |
| 21:17 |
OldCoder |
You reported one that was not an error |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
Muadtralk |
| 21:18 |
KikaRz |
your server is getting laggy everyday |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
yep! |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
and everyday |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
cause i like using bandwidth |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
im getting far |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
from the server |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
if its lagging, i get out |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
:P |
| 21:19 |
Dogzilla131 |
can somebody check the code and tell me whats wrong with it http://pastebin.com/Tc2ACMxZ |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
if it continues |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
bang |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
byebye |
| 21:19 |
KikaRz |
:P |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
it hasnt really been running in a long time |
| 21:19 |
Muadtralk |
usually its just me and USA |
| 21:20 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131 reports that his code does not load |
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| 21:21 |
Muadtralk |
i wonder if /ignore still works here or am I being rather harsh KikaRz? |
| 21:21 |
KikaRz |
what? |
| 21:24 |
Dogzilla131 |
yeah i put textures name in a folder inside the mod folder |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
KikaRz the server will slow down at certain times |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
mainly from 8:00 to 10:00 pm EST |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
yea yea... all the time |
| 21:26 |
Dogzilla131 |
ok then how can i fix the loading |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
since yesterday |
| 21:26 |
KikaRz |
the server lagged a lot |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
well thats cause im never away from a computer |
| 21:26 |
Muadtralk |
i'm on break |
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| 21:27 |
Muadtralk |
so things get laggy |
| 21:27 |
Muadtralk |
it will be normal by monday |
| 21:28 |
Dogzilla131 |
how can i fix the loading of the png image for the code |
| 21:30 |
Dogzilla131 |
nobody has suggestions |
| 21:30 |
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| 21:31 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 21:31 |
KikaRz |
Wb Kacey |
| 21:31 |
Kacey |
thank you |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
Dogzilla131, do you understand the above? |
| 21:34 |
aggies |
hax |
| 21:34 |
Kacey |
now it is just inception... |
| 21:35 |
Dogzilla131 |
what software is more recommended to make the textures, paint or GIMP |
| 21:35 |
Kacey |
what would happen if i googled google |
| 21:35 |
Kacey |
paint.net |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
Oh :( |
| 21:35 |
Kacey |
googleception |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
i wanted only Paint net for me |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
:'( |
| 21:35 |
KikaRz |
its only for me :( |
| 21:36 |
Kacey |
no because i have iittoo |
| 21:36 |
Jordach |
night all |
| 21:36 |
Muadtralk |
i liked gimp |
| 21:37 |
OldCoder |
Past tense? |
| 21:38 |
Kacey |
O.o inception |
| 21:40 |
Muadtralk |
oh sorry I like GIMP |
| 21:40 |
Muadtralk |
nothing in the past |
| 21:40 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
gimp |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
gimp4lyfe |
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| 21:49 |
Doc22 |
Digzilla131 |
| 21:49 |
Doc22 |
Dogzilla131 |
| 21:49 |
Doc22 |
wanna play on my server |
| 21:49 |
Dogzilla131 |
yeah sure |
| 21:49 |
Dogzilla131 |
ip port |
| 21:50 |
KikaRz |
can i play too? |
| 21:51 |
Doc22 |
sure |
| 21:51 |
Doc22 |
ill pm u in a sec |
| 21:51 |
Doc22 |
still need to fix a few things |
| 21:51 |
Kacey |
ooh hi doc |
| 21:53 |
Doc22 |
hey Kacey |
| 21:56 |
* ruskie |
starts reconsidering his pyramid flooring... as fun as the lava is it is kinda disorienting |
| 21:56 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 21:56 |
Doc22 |
wate |
| 21:56 |
Doc22 |
water |
| 21:56 |
ruskie |
using skylight for the floor |
| 21:56 |
Doc22 |
ohhh |
| 21:56 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 21:56 |
ruskie |
with lava underneath |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
you were on #java in freenode right |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
i remember you |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
was I? |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
when? |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
err quakenet |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
nope |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
no |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
I'm not on quakenet |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
hmmm |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
ircnet, oftc, freenode, gimpnet, rizon |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
someone with same name |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
i guess |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
yup |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
but have you been on #java |
| 21:57 |
ruskie |
nope |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
maybe they are linked |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 21:57 |
Doc22 |
they had the EXACT same name |
| 21:58 |
ruskie |
there's someone on freenode with the same nick |
| 21:58 |
ruskie |
though he uses "rsk" |
| 21:58 |
ruskie |
here |
| 21:58 |
Doc22 |
oh ok |
| 21:58 |
ruskie |
I know there is someone on efnet using this nick as well |
| 22:00 |
Kacey |
is the server up yet? |
| 22:00 |
ruskie |
europe? |
| 22:00 |
ruskie |
yup |
| 22:00 |
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| 22:00 |
Kacey |
no Doc's server |
| 22:01 |
Doc22 |
ig ij |
| 22:01 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 22:01 |
Doc22 |
ya it is |
| 22:01 |
Doc22 |
join |
| 22:01 |
Kacey |
k |
| 22:01 |
Doc22 |
ill pm u dog and kika |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
IP? |
| 22:01 |
KikaRz |
Im not pmed |
| 22:04 |
Kacey |
server shut down |
| 22:05 |
Kacey |
Doc22 ^ |
| 22:06 |
Kacey |
nvm im on |
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| 22:07 |
Kacey |
welcome |
| 22:07 |
bulletrulz |
sup :D |
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KikaRz |
M13!!! |
| 22:21 |
KikaRz |
Need to talk with you |
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| 22:27 |
Kacey |
kika are you going to rejoin? |
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| 22:31 |
Kacey |
welcome!!!! |
| 22:34 |
Kacey |
hello? |
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| 22:36 |
Kacey |
wb |
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| 22:38 |
kaeza |
hi guys |
| 22:38 |
Kacey |
heelo |
| 22:38 |
kaeza |
hey Kacey! How's the city goin? |
| 22:38 |
Kacey |
i had to delete the map :( |
| 22:38 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 22:39 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
why? |
| 22:39 |
Kacey |
it got corrupted |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
oh sorry |
| 22:39 |
Kacey |
ooh well we can make a new map |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
maybe |
| 22:40 |
Kacey |
how about a nuclear disaster map? |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
+1 |
| 22:40 |
Muadtralk |
hmmm |
| 22:40 |
Muadtralk |
hasnt it already been made? |
| 22:40 |
Kacey |
ya but i want to make another |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
Maudtralk: check tis one http://sites.google.com/site/lkaezadl3/minetest-city |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
this* |
| 22:41 |
Kacey |
maybe we can use that to make it |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
VanessaE are you here? |
| 22:43 |
Kacey |
kaeza do you know the ip? |
| 22:44 |
kaeza |
I'm currently @ work maybe later |
| 22:44 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 22:45 |
kaeza |
bbiab |
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| 22:52 |
kaeza |
Back in action! |
| 22:52 |
kaeza |
seems it's a bit desolate on these parts |
| 22:52 |
Kacey |
that is true |
| 22:52 |
kaeza |
or is just my mofo IRC client? |
| 22:53 |
Kacey |
no mine is blank also |
| 22:53 |
kaeza |
Kacey have you played teeworlds? |
| 22:53 |
Kacey |
? |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
http://teeworlds.org |
| 22:57 |
Kacey |
:( |
| 22:58 |
Kacey |
air traffic control game |
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* Kacey |
needs something to do |
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Octupus |
Hola |
| 23:07 |
M13 |
hello Octupus |
| 23:07 |
Octupus |
Hi m13 |
| 23:07 |
Kacey |
sorry i got bored |
| 23:07 |
Octupus |
srry guys for not being online yesterday my internet was being a assss |
| 23:07 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 23:08 |
Octupus |
:3 |
| 23:08 |
KikaRz |
Kacey... You liar... |
| 23:08 |
Kacey |
want to help make a nuclear disaster map |
| 23:08 |
KikaRz |
Going to tell M13 about that |
| 23:08 |
Kacey |
idk he knows that i do stuff like that |
| 23:08 |
Kacey |
idc* |
| 23:10 |
Kacey |
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nothing to do |
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* Octupus |
is away for a little bit be back in 30 mins or a hour |
| 23:10 |
Kacey |
k |
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KikaRz |
m13.servegame.com:30001 |
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KikaRz |
its a creative server |
| 23:11 |
Kacey |
ooh ok |
| 23:12 |
bulletrulz |
my internet is being a douchbag |
| 23:12 |
Kacey |
lolz |
| 23:12 |
bulletrulz |
72 kbs WTF\ |
| 23:13 |
bulletrulz |
I ussually get around 300 |
| 23:13 |
Kacey |
lolz |
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bulletrulz |
when trying to install remobo |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
hi again |
| 23:14 |
bulletrulz |
error dependicie chkgonfig? |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
what's up |
| 23:14 |
kaeza |
? |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
Kacey |
| 23:16 |
KikaRz |
did server crashed? |
| 23:16 |
Kacey |
no |
| 23:17 |
KikaRz |
did /time 5200 |
| 23:17 |
KikaRz |
and it dont loads |
| 23:17 |
Kacey |
wait yes it crashed |
| 23:17 |
Kacey |
hey kaeza |
| 23:17 |
KikaRz |
Okey :/ |
| 23:18 |
Kacey |
anybody want to work on nuclear disaster map? |
| 23:18 |
bulletrulz |
i i got a chkconfig error when trying to isntal remobo? |
| 23:18 |
kaeza |
What's remobo? |
| 23:19 |
bulletrulz |
http://www.remobo.com/ |
| 23:19 |
KikaRz |
server back |
| 23:19 |
KikaRz |
Official IRC: #m13 |
| 23:19 |
Kacey |
k |
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kaeza |
nevermind |
| 23:23 |
KikaRz |
what you did now kacey? |
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KikaRz |
gtg |
| 23:38 |
Kacey |
k |
| 23:38 |
Kacey |
Octupus are you alive? |
| 23:59 |
* OldCoder |
is resting |
