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Time Nick Message
00:01 Octupus Adios every1
00:01 Octupus have a good night
00:01 LandMine_ joined #minetest
00:01 LandMine_ crap i d/c
00:01 LandMine_ if it didnt appear i said
00:01 LandMine_ on the 15th ill have a domain with no use
00:01 LandMine_ <LandMine> what should i do with it?
00:01 LandMine_ <LandMine> its planetminetest.com
00:02 NekoGloop why will it be useles? killing the useless server are you?
00:02 LandMine_ its actually pretty active
00:03 LandMine_ and got big for the month it has been up
00:03 LandMine_ but i have probems in my world to be worrying about an online one
00:03 LandMine_ rolling back making backups and suck is tiring
00:03 NekoGloop and millions of people have viruses i bet.
00:03 LandMine_ sure....thats exactlly what i did
00:03 LandMine_ anyhow
00:03 LandMine_ if you know if anyone whats a domain for there server
00:03 LandMine_ say i have one :)
00:03 LandMine_ but after the 15th
00:04 LandMine_ or if you have an idea for a site or something tell me and ill set it up :)
00:04 LandMine_ i haz 2 year paid reseller hositng
00:07 LandMine_ wow you guys have no good convos going on
00:07 LandMine_ wth
00:10 Doc22_ nekogloop: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51319#p51319
00:12 NekoGloop Doc22_: make the ores be overlays on default stone texture
00:12 Doc22_ how
00:12 NekoGloop without a stone background in the image.
00:12 Doc22_ yeha
00:12 Doc22_ they are overlays
00:12 NekoGloop look at pretty much any ores mod.
00:12 Doc22_ oh wait
00:12 Doc22_ i know
00:12 Doc22_ :P
00:12 NekoGloop dont put the stone in the picture lol
00:12 NekoGloop make it a transparent BG
00:13 Doc22_ it is transparent
00:13 Doc22_ but i made it have "stone.png" as the bg
00:13 Doc22_ O_d
00:13 NekoGloop default_stone.png
00:13 Doc22_ lolz
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00:15 Doc22_ its fixed
00:15 Doc22_ now to update the files -__
00:15 Doc22_ -_- *
00:25 NekoGloop I guess a "shitton" is a technical term: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl5qSRldoEU&amp;feature=relmfu
00:25 VanessaE sure, it goes right up there with "metric assload".
00:25 VanessaE :-)
00:26 NekoGloop :3
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00:31 Doc22_ lol
00:32 Doc22_ so NekoGloop
00:32 Doc22_ are you ready to play a little bit with me
00:32 Doc22_ or not
00:32 Doc22_ I have about 15 minutes
00:32 NekoGloop pass :P
00:32 Doc22_ awww
00:32 Doc22_ :'(
00:34 Uberi hey can anyone recommend a good Mesecons server?
00:35 Doc22_ my server
00:35 Doc22_ :3
00:35 NekoGloop Uberi: nope :P
00:35 Doc22_ its survival though
00:35 Uberi you have the latest Mesecons on it?
00:35 Doc22_ how od you know
00:35 NekoGloop his server is only up when he feels like it though :3
00:35 Doc22_ yes
00:35 Doc22_ i can play a little bit now
00:35 Doc22_ want to?
00:35 Uberi sorry, I have to take down the laundry in 5 mins
00:35 Doc22_ it gets lonely :-/
00:35 Doc22_ oh its fine
00:36 Uberi I was working on a multiplication and division unit in Mesecons
00:37 Doc22_ awesome
00:37 NekoGloop Uberi: hamachi?
00:37 Doc22_ i am interested in learning about things like this
00:37 Doc22_ sometime you should play with me
00:37 Uberi NekoGloop: hmm?
00:37 Uberi Doc22_: tell me if you're available and if I have the time, sure :)
00:37 NekoGloop if you have hamachi i could host a server for as long as you like
00:38 Doc22_ ok
00:38 NekoGloop I'm interested in how more complex mesecons machines work.,
00:38 Doc22_ yeah
00:38 Doc22_ me too
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00:42 Octupus Hola
00:42 Doc22_ hi
00:42 Uberi hi Octupus
00:43 Octupus :(
00:43 Octupus Wrong face
00:43 Octupus :)
00:43 NekoGloop Uberi: have hamachi?
00:43 Octupus @_@
00:43 NekoGloop if so, you can build whatever you like with mesecons. i'll update right now.
00:43 Doc22_ octopus tonight later ill play with you on my server if you want
00:44 Doc22_ it will be off for a while though
00:44 Doc22_ till later
00:44 Uberi NekoGloop: yep
00:44 NekoGloop Lemme update mesecons then we're ready to go!
00:44 Uberi I still need to figure out how to wire the partial product towers though
00:45 NekoGloop the... what? :o
00:45 NekoGloop Where the hell is the forum topic for mesecons?
00:45 Uberi in basic multiplication circuits, we shift the partial products and sum them
00:46 Uberi this is the "long multiplication" technique you learn in grade school
00:46 NekoGloop I found the forum topic :3
00:46 Octupus Doc I cannot play im on ma iPod
00:46 Doc22_ i know
00:46 Doc22_ later
00:46 Uberi oh snap I need to go take down the laundry
00:46 NekoGloop Uberi: any other mods you'd like? I can run with just mesecons if it suits your fancy?
00:47 Uberi|Away NekoGloop: WorldEdit is really useful for the big stuff :)
00:47 NekoGloop hm..
00:47 NekoGloop would it be OK if i just ran my default set?
00:47 NekoGloop which includes mesecons, worldedit, etc.
00:48 NekoGloop oooh, a commandblock. Wuzzat. :P
00:49 Doc22_ gtg cya
00:50 Uberi NekoGloop: oh I wrote that like 2 weeks ago
00:50 NekoGloop well what is it?
00:50 Uberi similar to the MC command block, it runs a chat command when powered
00:50 VanessaE nice idea
00:50 Octupus O
00:50 NekoGloop -really-? so i can make a quarry with worldedit commands?
00:51 Octupus Hi VanessaE
00:51 NekoGloop :3
00:51 VanessaE hi Octupus
00:51 Uberi NekoGloop: yeah, you probably could
00:51 Octupus I wasted abut 4 hours of my life today
00:51 NekoGloop assuming we can have it run simple code and keep variables as well?
00:52 NekoGloop Octupus: i do that every day.
00:52 Octupus And I still need to fo my he
00:52 Octupus *hw
00:52 NekoGloop Right around 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM
00:52 NekoGloop Time wasted.
00:52 Octupus O
00:52 NekoGloop :3
00:52 Octupus :P
00:53 Uberi NekoGloop: unfortunately no variables
00:53 Octupus That's dry :/
00:53 Octupus :p
00:53 Uberi I dunno how that would work
00:53 Octupus Looks like XD
00:53 NekoGloop Uberi: add things to nodemeta.
00:53 Uberi NekoGloop: but variables? how would we modify those dynamically?
00:54 NekoGloop hrm...
00:54 NekoGloop no idea.
00:56 Uberi I was thinking of making RP2-like bussing wires, but those would probably be pretty difficult to implement
00:56 Uberi plus it would be pretty overpowered in terms of gameplay
00:56 NekoGloop hm..
00:56 NekoGloop anyway, did you wanna start now? :P
00:56 VanessaE Uberi: +100000000
00:57 VanessaE make them :-)
00:57 Uberi I have to fold the laundry, but that should only take ~5-10 mins :)
00:57 NekoGloop alright
00:57 Uberi VanessaE: I don't even get how wires work in the first place :P
00:57 NekoGloop Uberi: not the foggiest.
00:57 VanessaE heh
00:57 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYePE3KU-GE&amp;feature=relmfu
00:57 NekoGloop UU-Matter.
00:57 Octupus How about making a fake mesecons that blows the shit out of everything in a 8 block radius
00:58 NekoGloop we need it.
00:58 NekoGloop so we can randomly craft shit.
00:58 Octupus :3
00:59 MiJyn hi guys
00:59 Uberi hi MiJyn
00:59 Octupus Hi
00:59 VanessaE hi MiJyn
00:59 Octupus I'm an Octupus
01:00 Octupus :P
01:00 Uberi I'm thinking of this sort of tech tree: fiber & dye -> colored fiber, mesecon + colored fiber -> insulated mesecon, 3 mesecon & 3 colored fiber -> bus
01:00 Uberi not too expensive, not too chep
01:00 Uberi * cheap
01:00 VanessaE Uberi: +1
01:00 NekoGloop I'm a cat-boy gloop thing.
01:01 NekoGloop Like my avatar on the forums.
01:01 NekoGloop Because i finally bothered to make one
01:01 FreeFull Gloop gloop
01:01 Octupus :3
01:03 Uberi where do all my lost socks go :/
01:04 Octupus I may have found them :3
01:04 NekoGloop Uberi: behind the dryer.
01:05 Uberi but before making bussing we need to fix the wierd hack that is the up/down piston
01:05 Uberi and I still don't know why param2type = "wallmounted" refuses to work
01:05 VanessaE because it's paramtype2
01:05 VanessaE not param2type
01:06 Uberi *facepalm*
01:06 NekoGloop because wallmounted doesnt change the textures like it should.
01:06 Uberi man why didn't I notice that
01:06 VanessaE Uberi: tired maybe?
01:07 NekoGloop We need to be able to have leaves that dont decay...
01:07 VanessaE someone added those recently.
01:08 NekoGloop camomod
01:08 NekoGloop not what i mean
01:08 VanessaE camouflage mod
01:08 VanessaE or use the ones from jungle trees :-)
01:08 Uberi ah well, time for some MT :)
01:08 NekoGloop i mean default:leaves dont decay if placed.
01:08 NekoGloop Uberi: so time to start up my server-thingy?
01:09 Octupus Yes :)
01:09 Uberi yep!
01:09 Uberi what's the address?
01:09 NekoGloop Its hamachi :P
01:09 VanessaE ew.
01:09 NekoGloop I dont run it publicly.
01:09 Uberi oh right
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01:15 M13 hello
01:15 Uberi hi M13
01:15 M13 how is OldCoder OP here?
01:15 M13 thats not cool :/
01:15 Uberi he provides a valuable service to the community
01:15 M13 how?
01:15 M13 Servers?
01:16 Uberi I assume that is the case
01:16 M13 hmmm
01:16 M13 I need my server hosted that is why im here
01:16 M13 I cant host from my home no more :/
01:16 Uberi looking for a server host?
01:17 M13 is there a way to make my server run on host1free VPS
01:17 M13 0.3.1 servers run great on it but 0.4.3 dont :/
01:17 M13 and yes I am
01:17 M13 can you?
01:17 Uberi 'fraid not, I turn off my computer every night
01:18 M13 ok
01:18 M13 hmm
01:18 M13 can you help me with my server problems?
01:19 Uberi I'll do my best
01:19 M13 can you make the VPS internet connection faster
01:19 M13 :P
01:19 M13 is there a way??
01:19 Uberi sure, just speed up time in the server room
01:19 Uberi create a localized time distortion field
01:20 M13 is it free?
01:20 M13 and does it work with Linux?
01:20 Uberi no, but you can buy a portable time dilation field at your local walmart
01:20 M13 Ubuntu ^
01:21 M13 damn
01:21 M13 I hate Walmart
01:21 M13 plus I dont have money
01:21 M13 do you know any other from VPS?
01:22 M13 in, or around North America
01:23 M13 hello??
01:24 Octupus HELLO
01:24 Octupus :)
01:24 M13 uberi??
01:24 Octupus Ask coder where his vps is located
01:24 M13 idk
01:25 Octupus Maybe he can help u set 1 up
01:25 M13 OldCoder is not around
01:25 M13 and I dont want to pay for VPS
01:25 Octupus That's id how life goes m13
01:25 Octupus Nothing is free
01:26 M13 that is not true
01:26 M13 Host1free VPS is free :P
01:26 Uberi M13: no idea :P
01:26 M13 I have it, and that is what my 0.3.1 server iis running on
01:26 M13 ok Uberi
01:27 M13 Im going to go code on my github
01:27 Octupus Yes but if u want something with high quality u pay for it
01:28 Octupus WoOOooO Chelsea
01:29 Octupus Peter Cech
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01:46 M13 Vanessa, are you here???
01:46 M13 if so please respond
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01:46 Octupus I'm here :)
01:47 M13 lol can you use github?
01:48 Octupus Yes a bit :)
01:48 M13 can you add folders to github through the site?
01:48 Octupus Which site
01:49 M13 or can you create new .sh files in the site?
01:49 M13 github.com :P
01:49 Octupus Oh
01:49 Octupus I believe u an do both
01:49 M13 or do you have to push
01:50 Octupus ?
01:50 M13 nvm
01:50 Octupus :/
01:51 Octupus He's mean :/
02:01 Octupus In lonely :~|
02:01 NekoGloop Octupus: here, have a cookie
02:02 * NekoGloop gives Octu a cookie :3
02:02 Octupus Yay :)
02:02 * Octupus eats the cookie
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02:03 Muadtralk hello
02:03 babyface1031 hi
02:03 Octupus Hi babyface1031,and Muadtralk
02:03 Octupus :)
02:03 Muadtralk would anyone be willing to help me restore gamebooms subway system?
02:03 Muadtralk its fallen into such a bad state
02:04 Octupus I can help
02:04 Muadtralk you know where everything is down there?
02:04 Octupus Ghostshell gave u he map
02:04 Octupus Ik most about that map
02:04 Muadtralk cause someone thought it would be funny to steal the signs
02:04 Muadtralk then please come o
02:05 Muadtralk on*
02:05 Octupus Cannot
02:05 Muadtralk if you could
02:05 Octupus iPod fried
02:05 Muadtralk okay then
02:05 Octupus *friend
02:05 Octupus Typos :-|
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02:06 Muadtralk okay anyone else with knowledge of the subway system
02:07 Muadtralk i know it but if you let me do it alone i will most likely cover up any new tunnels and focus only on old ones
02:07 Uberi hey Muadtralk, restoring the subway system?
02:07 Muadtralk hoping to
02:07 Muadtralk i have a few things only accessable through that
02:07 Muadtralk which i dont believe i can reach anymore
02:08 Uberi in survival mode?
02:08 Muadtralk i would think so
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02:08 Muadtralk after all its gameboom
02:09 Doc22 Uberi are you still interested in playing with me
02:09 Doc22 survival
02:09 Doc22 Oh and hey Oldcoder
02:10 Uberi Doc22: I'm playing on NekoGloop's server right now, building a Mesecons multiplier
02:10 Doc22 oh cool can i join
02:10 Doc22 Nekogloop
02:11 Uberi you might have to ask NekoGloop about that :)
02:11 Doc22 can you ask him
02:11 NekoGloop Nope. :l
02:11 Doc22 why not?
02:11 Doc22 :'(
02:11 Doc22 im an engineer
02:11 NekoGloop because i dont know you enough
02:11 Doc22 oh i see
02:11 Doc22 back up world (even though i dont grief)
02:11 Doc22 ?
02:12 NekoGloop I dont bother.
02:13 Doc22 :'(
02:13 Doc22 i am so lonely.
02:13 Muadtralk help me on gameboom then
02:14 Doc22 wait....
02:14 Doc22 it shows your ip
02:14 Doc22 so if i wanted i could join
02:14 Doc22 but you would kick me cuz you dont know me
02:14 NekoGloop The password has changed.
02:14 Doc22 :'(
02:15 Muadtralk and it would be uncourteous
02:15 Doc22 thats why i didnt
02:15 Doc22 babyface wanna play with me
02:15 Doc22 babyface10301
02:15 Doc22 babyface1031
02:16 Doc22 want to play with me
02:16 babyface1031 where
02:16 Doc22 ill pm you
02:16 babyface1031 ok
02:17 Doc22 starting server now
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02:18 Uberi hi Octupus
02:18 Doc22 yeah hi
02:18 Octupus Hello
02:18 babyface1031 Wb
02:19 Octupus :)
02:27 OldCoder <M13> how is OldCoder OP here?
02:27 OldCoder <M13> thats not cool :/
02:27 OldCoder M13 how kind of you
02:34 OldCoder What was M13 talking about?
02:34 OldCoder I will return in a little while
02:35 Doc22 Octupus are you on a pc
02:35 Doc22 if so then want to join me and baby
02:41 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TE5lewtZc
02:43 Uberi oh I should get some rest today
02:44 NekoGloop someone explain why minetest.register_alias doesnt seem to be working on rubber trees?
02:45 RealBadAngel hi
02:45 RealBadAngel somethin is fucked up with aliases
02:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: register a goddamn alias for farming:rubber_tree and the like
02:45 RealBadAngel for example using them in shapeless recipes doesnt work
02:46 NekoGloop well i know that.
02:47 NekoGloop But i should be able to have farming:rubber_tree_full aliased to technic:rubber_tree_full and have all instances of farming:rubber_tree_full in my minetest-world changed to technic:rubber_tree_full, correct?
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02:47 Doc22 i guess
02:48 Doc22 ima leave to free up my pcs memory
02:50 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, hold on a while with aliases
02:50 RealBadAngel pilzadam is moving farmin to default
02:50 RealBadAngel so there will be changes for sure
02:50 NekoGloop but i want my fucking treetap to work on farming:rubber_tree_full
02:50 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: that mod will have practically nothing in it
02:50 NekoGloop just wheat and cotton IIRC
02:51 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs :3
02:51 RealBadAngel so maybe we just include rubber_tree.lua again
02:52 NekoGloop so... you're missing the fact that c55 wants minetest_game to be as barren as possible?
02:52 RealBadAngel the tree code was moved to technic long time ago
02:52 NekoGloop I know.
02:53 NekoGloop but trees that had generated with farming werent transferred.
02:53 NekoGloop So i'm staring at this giant heap of ugly unknown blocks.
02:54 RealBadAngel so just remove them and plant other ones
02:54 NekoGloop You seem to be missing something.
02:54 RealBadAngel what?
02:54 NekoGloop I dont have rubber tree saplings because farming:rubber_leaves is undefined.
02:54 RealBadAngel wait a sec
02:55 NekoGloop I HAVE A RUBBER TREE FROM FARMING
02:55 NekoGloop I WANT IT TO BE ALIASED TO TECHNIC
02:55 NekoGloop HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND??!
02:56 RealBadAngel shut up and lemme try
02:57 RealBadAngel cant you just move to technic:rubber_tree ?
02:57 NekoGloop CANT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND I'M TRYING THAT?!?!?!?!?!
02:58 RealBadAngel add this to technic init.lua
02:58 RealBadAngel dofile(modpath.."/rubber.lua")
02:58 NekoGloop that's already there, retard.
02:59 NekoGloop I want rubber trees generated with the farming mod.
02:59 NekoGloop to be recognized by technic.
03:00 RealBadAngel than change to treetap shall be done
03:00 NekoGloop you are a fucking retard.
03:01 NekoGloop And I'm being nice saying that.
03:01 RealBadAngel to not to check for <modname>:rubber_tree but just for rubber_tree
03:01 NekoGloop wait what.
03:02 NekoGloop why the hell do you not have your rubber.lua called by default.
03:02 NekoGloop fucking retarded code...
03:03 NekoGloop all that was needed was for your rubber trees to actually be loaded.
03:03 NekoGloop and this idiotic code didnt have such happen.
03:03 RealBadAngel i made this because i thought pilzadam removed the tree
03:03 NekoGloop HE DID
03:03 NekoGloop I HAD AN OLD VERSION
03:03 NekoGloop WHAT FUCKING PART OF THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?!
03:04 RealBadAngel he just moved it to farming_plus
03:04 NekoGloop and you expect us to magically have farming_plus?
03:04 RealBadAngel well im not the author of neither farming mods
03:05 NekoGloop this is the kind of crap that I've grown to expect from you.
03:05 RealBadAngel :P
03:06 RealBadAngel just load technic's lua for it
03:06 RealBadAngel and use technic one
03:06 NekoGloop like, renaming your files every week so i get a folder filled with shit?
03:06 RealBadAngel i dont change file names too often
03:06 NekoGloop and not appriciating the code of beginner modders?
03:07 NekoGloop and not really giving a fuck about the people who actually have good ideas?
03:07 RealBadAngel with the last i was wrong, and i already said sorry
03:07 NekoGloop And I still dont care what you say now.
03:08 RealBadAngel with the ideas, im listenin to what ppl are sayin
03:08 RealBadAngel many changes were made after posts in technic topic
03:09 NekoGloop Not talking about technic.
03:09 RealBadAngel and i really do like segfaults22 ideas for nuclear stuff
03:09 NekoGloop Talking about C++ formspec changes made from idiot thoughts
03:10 RealBadAngel i do have now a bit more time so i will try to explain the changes again
03:10 RealBadAngel the changes do not affect DEFAULT game
03:10 RealBadAngel at all
03:10 NekoGloop ...
03:10 NekoGloop I've given up listening to such crap.
03:10 RealBadAngel its an option to be used by texture pack creators only
03:10 NekoGloop Anyway, rubber tree texture: http://ompldr.org/vZzZxbQ
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03:11 RealBadAngel if you want textured guis just load texture pack that uses them
03:11 RealBadAngel if you dont like them just dont download such texture packs
03:11 NekoGloop Should said texture pack take up an insane amount of disc space?
03:11 RealBadAngel its as simple as that
03:12 NekoGloop This is stupidity.
03:12 NekoGloop To the highest possible degree.
03:12 RealBadAngel why insane?
03:12 NekoGloop because with your implementation every single thing needs its own fucking image.
03:13 NekoGloop but since you refuse to listen to logic let's move on.
03:13 RealBadAngel as everythin
03:13 RealBadAngel one gui, one image
03:13 RealBadAngel not 1200 images like vanessa calculated in some weird way
03:14 NekoGloop For each and every thing that needs a formspec
03:14 NekoGloop there is one image.
03:15 RealBadAngel i just did it the very same way as minecraft does it
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03:15 NekoGloop one image, that takes up ~200Mb disc space
03:15 RealBadAngel lol
03:15 RealBadAngel lemme check
03:15 NekoGloop imagine 50 or so things needing a BG image.
03:16 NekoGloop I, for one, refuse to use this idiotic method.
03:16 NekoGloop And i dare you to find someone who will.
03:16 RealBadAngel image for electric furnace takes 60kB
03:17 RealBadAngel made in 36x
03:17 NekoGloop you're missing the point...
03:17 NekoGloop the point of minetest.
03:17 NekoGloop Tell me, what is that?
03:17 RealBadAngel customization
03:17 RealBadAngel youre missing it
03:18 NekoGloop A sense of logic. You seem to be lacking one.
03:18 NekoGloop Why have one giant background image be mandatory?
03:18 RealBadAngel no, i just want to have nice lookin textureable GUIs
03:18 RealBadAngel its not mandatory for fucks sake
03:18 NekoGloop With my method, yours is totally overlapped.
03:18 NekoGloop Textures can be done in your style if they like
03:18 RealBadAngel who told you it is????
03:19 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: you did.
03:19 RealBadAngel its A FUCKIN OPTION
03:19 NekoGloop If i wanna make a texture for the GUI background, I have to make fucking giant image.
03:19 RealBadAngel yes
03:19 NekoGloop But since you wont slow down and listen, as always, I guess there's no point in me trying to explain.
03:20 RealBadAngel im patient, go ahead and explain your idea
03:20 NekoGloop You have a funny way of showing it.
03:20 NekoGloop alright here goes:
03:21 NekoGloop Inventory images can be split up like so: "inventory_slot.png", "inventory_bg.png", "inventory_slot_fg.png", etc.
03:21 NekoGloop Formspec-image-generate-thing reads these images.
03:21 NekoGloop Tiles "inventory_bg.png" in the background
03:22 NekoGloop Places copies of "inventory_slot.png" behind the inventory slots
03:22 NekoGloop Places images of the inventory contents in the slots.
03:22 NekoGloop Places copies of "inventory_slot_fg.png" on top of those.
03:22 NekoGloop Then, if applicable, tiles "inventory_fg.png" on top of all of this.
03:23 RealBadAngel what for foregrounds?
03:23 NekoGloop hm?
03:23 RealBadAngel bg and fg
03:23 RealBadAngel what for fg?
03:23 RealBadAngel bg is enough
03:24 NekoGloop depends on the tastes of the texture creator
03:24 NekoGloop after all, it's about customization, right?
03:24 NekoGloop if one wants to do a MC style inventory image...
03:24 NekoGloop (though i dont see the practibility)...
03:24 NekoGloop just call such "inventory_bg.png"
03:25 NekoGloop leaving the rest of the images blank.
03:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://ompldr.org/vZzZxbQ Rubber tree texture.
03:25 RealBadAngel if some1 does he can use my way and just copy minecraft images
03:25 RealBadAngel nice texture
03:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Your method is entirely encompassed by mine.
03:26 NekoGloop "inventory_bg.png" could be unneccessarily large MC-style background if one likes.
03:26 RealBadAngel with my method you can have specifix GUIs with drawn elements
03:27 RealBadAngel with yours you will end with simple same slots and a background eventually
03:27 NekoGloop Ah, but I havent finished.
03:28 NekoGloop One could specify if a grid of inventory slots has a different image.
03:28 NekoGloop and in formspec, one could specify different inventory_bg and inventory_fg to load as well.
03:29 RealBadAngel youre talkin now of complete rewrite of formspec handling the inventories
03:29 NekoGloop This is all more logical than your method.
03:30 NekoGloop i mean new aspects added to formspec details.
03:30 NekoGloop [images]background;foreground
03:30 RealBadAngel your method is a) way harder to code b) will produce simple same lookin guis
03:31 RealBadAngel and if some will try to make better lookin one
03:31 NekoGloop your wrong on one thing: I JUST FUCKING SAID THE FORMSPEC CAN SPECIFY DIFFERENT IMAGES FOR ITSELF
03:31 RealBadAngel will have to figure out where to put the tiles
03:32 NekoGloop much better than guesswork involved with making your images line up with how minetest inventories work.
03:32 RealBadAngel in fact formspec does it by default
03:32 RealBadAngel it draws inventory slot rectangles
03:32 RealBadAngel those grey ones
03:32 NekoGloop exacty
03:32 NekoGloop make those draw an image instead of ugly grey square
03:33 NekoGloop and have formspecs have tiled backgrounds.
03:33 RealBadAngel i can do that
03:33 RealBadAngel but just 2 different tiles
03:33 NekoGloop make it draw an image based on the contents of the formspec.
03:33 RealBadAngel slot and background
03:34 NekoGloop if not specified, default to inventory_slot.png
03:34 RealBadAngel ok, i will make it
03:34 NekoGloop I know just about no C++ but already know such is possible.
03:35 RealBadAngel but my method will be here also
03:35 RealBadAngel so it will be up for texture makers which way to choose
03:35 NekoGloop my method encompasses yours.
03:36 NekoGloop If inventory_slot.png is completely transparent, and inventory_bg.png is set up like yours, then it is exactly the same as yours would be.
03:36 RealBadAngel with your method you will get simple, same lookin guis for every formspec
03:36 NekoGloop no no no no no no no no no  no n o no
03:36 RealBadAngel yes
03:36 NekoGloop this is what i meant
03:36 NekoGloop you dont fucking LISTEN
03:37 RealBadAngel every slot lookin the same, every background the same
03:37 RealBadAngel no hand drawn elements
03:37 NekoGloop let me re-explain, because you seem to have missed something.
03:37 RealBadAngel like frames, symbols and such
03:38 NekoGloop never mind... you seem to think minetest needs to sacrifice logic for looking like a game priced at $100...
03:39 RealBadAngel you will be messing with tiles to get somethin nice, i will just open premade grid in gimp
03:39 RealBadAngel put there slots, different ones when i choose to, add some frames, fill the background, add some animations to it
03:39 RealBadAngel and just save the image
03:39 NekoGloop obviously my opinion means nothing to the false god.
03:39 RealBadAngel it does
03:40 RealBadAngel i said already i will implement your way too
03:40 NekoGloop obviously my opinion means nothing to even a community small as this.
03:41 RealBadAngel are you selective blind or something?
03:41 RealBadAngel i said i will implement your way
03:41 NekoGloop Are you selective stupid or something?
03:42 NekoGloop I do pay attention to everything you say.
03:42 NekoGloop It's really easy to piece it together.
03:42 NekoGloop And such makes lies really easy to detect.
03:42 thexyz OldCoder: it worked for me
03:43 NekoGloop You dont give a shit.
03:43 RealBadAngel so you will use your way
03:43 RealBadAngel i will use mine
03:43 RealBadAngel whats wrong with it?
03:43 NekoGloop to you, i know it's "your way or the highway"
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03:43 babyface1031_ night
03:43 Doc22 night
03:44 RealBadAngel because i have different taste, so Haven texture pack will use another method
03:44 RealBadAngel for your taste you will be able to change those tiles pngs
03:44 NekoGloop And my texture pack will use nothing.
03:45 RealBadAngel as i said, all is up to texture pack makers
03:45 RealBadAngel nothing forced, just an option
03:46 Muadtralk i heard textures
03:46 RealBadAngel http://www.realbadangel.pl/inventory3.png
03:46 NekoGloop I dunno, all i hear is "I dont really care but I'm telling you i care so you shut up"
03:47 RealBadAngel such textures, hi Muadtralk
03:47 Doc22 does anyone want to play with me?
03:47 Muadtralk those batteries look like shite!
03:47 Muadtralk who made them?
03:48 NekoGloop he did.,
03:48 Muadtralk um maybe i was too blunt with that
03:48 Doc22 lol if its in inventory3.png
03:48 Doc22 then its a copper coil
03:48 Muadtralk sorry if i crushed anyones toes
03:48 Doc22 lol
03:48 NekoGloop Muadtralk: http://ompldr.org/vZzZxbQ Rubber tree.
03:48 Muadtralk image or link?
03:48 Doc22 very nice
03:49 NekoGloop image
03:49 Muadtralk good
03:49 NekoGloop yes i know it's smoother than the other trees; it's supposed to be.
03:49 Doc22 i like it
03:50 NekoGloop and i bet you dont even really know what it is :3
03:50 Doc22 rubber tree...
03:50 Muadtralk you told us man
03:50 NekoGloop Beyond what it's called :P
03:51 Muadtralk node
03:51 Muadtralk bits
03:51 RealBadAngel hehehe
03:51 Muadtralk 0101010
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04:03 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i will add option to use built-in rubber tree to config
04:03 * VanessaE peeks back in.
04:04 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
04:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: welcome to hell.
04:04 VanessaE RealBadAngel: not to rehash a previous argument, but..
04:04 VanessaE your idea sucks.
04:04 VanessaE sorry.
04:04 VanessaE :)
04:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: hell has rubber trees: http://ompldr.org/vZzZxbQ
04:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: saw them.
04:04 NekoGloop ok, what do you think? :l
04:04 VanessaE looks okay I guess
04:04 RealBadAngel VanessaE, i will provide tools for both ways, building out of tiles and using single image
04:05 RealBadAngel so every1 should be happy
04:05 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ok.  as long as the texture-pack-supplied images can *completely* override whatever the mod supplies.
04:05 VanessaE so,
04:05 NekoGloop I'll only be happy when RealBadAngel learns to listen to me.
04:05 RealBadAngel its not mod case, it never was
04:06 RealBadAngel those are options for texture pack makers only
04:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: well no, but a mod that supports this idea surely will need to specify image filenames to be used.
04:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ok, challenge:
04:06 NekoGloop I dare you to find someone who supports RBA's idea.
04:06 NekoGloop no, you cant go to #minecraft.
04:07 VanessaE RealBadAngel:  how do you plan to give the regular survival-mode inventory display a texture, but not break in creative mode?
04:07 VanessaE (recall that creative inventory uses a different formspec for the same function)
04:07 RealBadAngel you will see
04:07 NekoGloop at least with my method, creative inventory isnt broken.
04:08 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=Bp98h2FZu8o
04:08 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what you need to do is exactly this, and nothing more:  Allow each node that uses formspec specify the image to be used for the UI, and ALSO make your code read from a standardized set of tileable images to build ALL formspec UIs from if such an image is not supplied for a given node.
04:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: this is precisely what i said
04:09 RealBadAngel so i said i will implement that way too
04:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: I assumed that was what you meant - just re-stating it.
04:09 NekoGloop I dont think hearing it from someone else will make the false god listen.
04:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ok, so you're saying that if I supply a handful of tileable images, every node with a formspec will use them?
04:09 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, will you just stop whinning? I ALREADY SAID SEVERAL TIMES I WILL IMPLEMENT YOUR WAY
04:10 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: will you stop lying? :3
04:10 RealBadAngel dont push it
04:10 NekoGloop I'm not pushing anything.
04:10 NekoGloop Not anything that will happen, anyway.
04:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: ok.  good.  Now, if some mod with a formspec says "use this image as the UI", will my supplied, tileable formspec textures override that, or will that mod's pink-on-green-with-blue-text mess show up instead?
04:11 VanessaE which takes precedence?
04:11 RealBadAngel im off to work now
04:11 VanessaE wait.
04:11 VanessaE answer that ^^^^
04:11 RealBadAngel will explain it to you later today
04:11 NekoGloop its time for him to not give a fuck.
04:11 RealBadAngel dont have any more time
04:11 RealBadAngel sorry
04:11 VanessaE *grumble*
04:11 RealBadAngel bus wont wait for me
04:11 VanessaE I REALLY HATE when people do this, RBA.
04:12 NekoGloop get a car.
04:12 NekoGloop or a bike.
04:13 NekoGloop VanessaE: so, anyway, what part of the rubber tree didnt appeal to you?
04:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: just the fact that it's a 16px texture :-)
04:13 NekoGloop haha.
04:13 NekoGloop Well that's the point.
04:13 NekoGloop Look great and not bloat loading times.
04:14 NekoGloop Honestly I see no difference ingame between 256x and 16x
04:14 NekoGloop other than one takes for-ever to load.
04:14 VanessaE it depends as much on the style of the texture pack as its resolution
04:16 VanessaE after all, you can't say that the default textures look the same as minetoon or HDX :-)
04:16 VanessaE (and those are 250px I think, and 512px)
04:16 NekoGloop I can.
04:16 NekoGloop It's just not true. :3
04:17 VanessaE hah!
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04:19 NekoGloop tbh i think we need less resolution
04:19 VanessaE heh
04:19 NekoGloop if it's too high-res, the blocky-ness of minetest makes it look like crap,
04:19 VanessaE no, we just need a faster rendering engine
04:19 NekoGloop I mean just visually
04:19 NekoGloop if it's too high-res, the blocky-ness of minetest makes it look like crap,
04:19 VanessaE eh, well maybe
04:19 VanessaE but again it depends on the style of the textures
04:20 NekoGloop I could go for 32x or possibly 64x
04:20 NekoGloop but 512x? overkill in a game like this.
04:20 NekoGloop same for 250x
04:20 VanessaE I know :-)
04:20 VanessaE that's why I did it
04:20 NekoGloop and 128x...
04:20 NekoGloop VanessaE: at least you didnt do 1080x like the one MC pack...
04:20 VanessaE fuck no
04:20 NekoGloop loading time == nil.
04:20 Doc22 LOL
04:20 VanessaE THAT is truly overkill
04:25 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6g0auvcJs
04:25 NekoGloop hrm... I think the treetap recipe's a bit overkill
04:26 NekoGloop at least, considering the cost of pipes.
04:26 NekoGloop pipes/tubes/whatever
04:26 NekoGloop Anyway, I'm off to bed.
04:26 VanessaE pipes are cheap
04:26 NekoGloop Night y'all.
04:26 VanessaE in pipeworks' original recipes anyway
04:26 NekoGloop VanessaE: not in technic.
04:26 VanessaE just need a bunch of leaves :-)
04:26 NekoGloop Stainless steel is a bitch to make.
04:27 NekoGloop Steel + Chromium.
04:27 NekoGloop And an alloy furnace.
04:27 NekoGloop which i can never find clay :P{
04:27 VanessaE it's too early for bed
04:27 VanessaE dammit
04:40 Doc22 mmmmmm klondike bar
04:46 OldCoder Then don't go to bed
04:46 VanessaE I meant for neko
04:46 Doc22 lol what a simple solution
04:47 VanessaE he usually doesn't crash until about midnight my time
04:47 OldCoder k
04:48 Doc22 whats happening oldcoder
04:48 OldCoder Doc22, This has been an odder than usual week for me. I am attempting to organize things again.
04:49 OldCoder I have done new builds
04:49 Doc22 oh ok
04:49 OldCoder If the servers are still running
04:49 OldCoder then I will attempt Windows versions of the clients
04:49 OldCoder including a patch that NekoGloop wanted
04:49 Doc22 awesome
04:49 Doc22 well sounds busty
04:49 Doc22 busy
04:49 OldCoder with luck I may even get LevelDB running under Windows
04:49 Doc22 awesome
04:49 OldCoder Are Gems working in the worlds?
04:49 OldCoder That is a new addition
04:49 Doc22 yea
04:50 Doc22 wait
04:50 Doc22 in my mod
04:50 Doc22 yes
04:50 Doc22 ....
04:50 Doc22 i have still been using 0.4.3
04:51 OldCoder <babyface1031_> hi we cant get the opals cause the world stops at -1000
04:52 OldCoder VanessaE, comment? Or would this be just NekoGloop
04:52 VanessaE ?
04:53 VanessaE I don't understand the question
04:53 OldCoder She is reporting a problem
04:53 OldCoder Can you comment?
04:54 VanessaE I have no comment on that.  I'm unfamiliar with the mod she refers to, or the reason the world stops at -1000.
05:01 OldCoder t y VanessaE
05:02 sokomine why does the world stop at -1000? server set that way?
05:05 Doc22 idk
05:05 Doc22 amupme want to play with me
05:06 Doc22 anyone*
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05:06 Doc22 wanna play with me
05:09 OldCoder Doc22, I would but I need to build more MT
05:09 Doc22 ohkay
05:09 OldCoder sokomine, Not sure it does. Needs to be looked at.
05:10 Doc22 i just get lonely :-/
05:10 OldCoder Other people will join over time
05:10 Doc22 yes i suppose
05:11 sokomine calinous server did end at -1000
05:11 OldCoder It is very likely
05:11 OldCoder Hmm
05:11 Doc22 hrmmmm
05:11 OldCoder Is -1000 normal?
05:11 Doc22 no its -31000
05:11 Doc22 nrmally
05:11 Doc22 normally
05:12 Doc22 i think
05:12 sokomine no. some server use some kind of protection so that you can't dig deeper then -1000
05:12 Doc22 hrmmmm
05:13 OldCoder Interesting
05:13 OldCoder I thought I had removed node owner
05:13 OldCoder Node Protect may still be there
05:14 OldCoder But if I remove it
05:14 OldCoder Will a world need to be regenerated to get more depth?
05:14 OldCoder Needs also to be looked at
05:14 Doc22 hrmmm
05:14 Doc22 ill help test if you want
05:14 OldCoder Yes
05:14 OldCoder Hold on
05:14 Doc22 ill be your lab rat
05:14 OldCoder Checking mod list
05:14 * Doc22 squeaks
05:14 OldCoder Run the maze
05:14 OldCoder Cheese waits
05:15 OldCoder I am reviewing
05:15 * Doc22 squeaks agreeably
05:15 OldCoder Hmm
05:15 OldCoder Doc22, have you joined all the worlds?
05:15 Doc22 no
05:15 OldCoder I will interact you en masse if so
05:15 Doc22 ok
05:15 Doc22 i havent
05:15 OldCoder Doc22, join every world that interests you
05:15 OldCoder Then exit
05:15 Doc22 ill do that if you want
05:15 OldCoder Sure
05:15 OldCoder Proceed
05:15 OldCoder Does not need to be all
05:15 OldCoder Review list
05:15 Doc22 ohkay
05:15 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
05:15 OldCoder Join ones that interest you
05:15 OldCoder Then exit
05:15 Doc22 i shall be expecting cheese....
05:16 OldCoder Of course
05:16 OldCoder I will request a cheese mod
05:16 OldCoder Surely somebody will oblige over time
05:16 * Doc22 squeaks ha;;ily
05:16 Doc22 happily*
05:16 Doc22 ok on 30000
05:16 Doc22 it says "exception "bad"
05:16 Doc22 client crash...
05:17 OldCoder Ouch
05:17 * Doc22 squeaks in frustration
05:17 OldCoder Which client?
05:17 OldCoder Maybe I should build the new Windows client
05:17 Doc22 the one that comes with download
05:17 OldCoder Download from where?
05:17 OldCoder Is this Windows?
05:17 OldCoder Try mine
05:17 OldCoder I can link you
05:17 Doc22 minetest.com windows
05:17 OldCoder Nah
05:17 OldCoder Try mine
05:17 Doc22 no wait
05:17 OldCoder Hold on
05:17 Doc22 its .net
05:17 OldCoder Go on
05:17 OldCoder Wait
05:18 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mineinfo.html#SECTION02
05:18 OldCoder Get the 30MB Windows version from there
05:18 OldCoder Worth a try
05:18 Doc22 downloading nauw
05:18 * Doc22 squeaks while waiting for download
05:20 Doc22 looks the same as the one i was using
05:20 * Doc22 squeaks with familiarity
05:21 Doc22 oldcoder...
05:21 Doc22 30001 works
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05:23 OldCoder anunakki, Hi
05:23 OldCoder Doc22, good
05:23 Doc22 hey
05:23 Doc22 ohkay
05:23 OldCoder Doc22, proceed with a few others
05:23 Doc22 you saw it
05:23 Doc22 ok
05:24 OldCoder And I will mass interact you
05:24 Doc22 ok
05:24 Doc22 and make me admin
05:24 Doc22 (jk
05:24 Doc22 )
05:24 OldCoder In time
05:24 Doc22 im joking
05:24 OldCoder I will have more VPS and more worlds
05:24 Doc22 i know that ive been here for a week only
05:24 Doc22 i dont know that it is worth it
05:24 Doc22 not many people play on it
05:24 Doc22 you should make a link to it
05:25 Doc22 they are awesome
05:25 Doc22 but it just seems like there arent enough people
05:25 Doc22 on minetest.net you should make a link
05:25 Doc22 30002 works
05:25 * Doc22 is becoming more impatient for cheese
05:26 OldCoder The cheese will be interact for tonight
05:26 OldCoder You will have access everywhere
05:26 * Doc22 squeaks questionably
05:26 * Doc22 squeaks happily
05:26 * Doc22 squeaks with approval
05:27 OldCoder Very well
05:27 VanessaE bbl.
05:27 OldCoder Continue joining worlds
05:27 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
05:27 VanessaE bedtime for me.
05:27 Doc22 testing 30003
05:27 Doc22 night
05:27 OldCoder VanessaE, any comment
05:27 OldCoder on -1000 issue?
05:27 VanessaE nope, sorry
05:27 OldCoder I will have him dig a world or two
05:27 VanessaE night all
05:27 VanessaE ->
05:27 OldCoder VanessaE, Gems is a new mod
05:27 OldCoder C U
05:27 Doc22 30003 works
05:27 OldCoder Oh?
05:27 Doc22 testing 30004
05:29 Doc22 it seems to work
05:29 Doc22 did you patch the snow
05:29 OldCoder Yes
05:29 OldCoder Not the snow
05:30 OldCoder The engine
05:30 OldCoder Sort of
05:30 Doc22 oh ok
05:30 Doc22 works
05:30 Doc22 on 30005 it says "some exception:"
05:30 OldCoder Hmm
05:30 Doc22 thats it
05:31 OldCoder using your old client?
05:31 Doc22 no the one you gave me
05:31 Doc22 it looks exactly the same
05:31 Doc22 as the one i had
05:31 Doc22 same error on 30006
05:31 Doc22 and 30007
05:35 OldCoder Odd
05:35 OldCoder Doc22, wait
05:35 OldCoder Doc22, try this
05:35 Doc22 ?
05:35 OldCoder Doc22, exit client completely
05:35 OldCoder And restart 30005
05:35 Doc22 ok
05:36 Doc22 it says its connecting to server
05:36 Doc22 did i tell you im building my own computer?
05:37 OldCoder You may have mentioned it
05:37 OldCoder Not sure
05:37 Doc22 lol
05:37 Doc22 anyway i got some of the first parts yesterday
05:37 OldCoder k
05:37 Doc22 i have been waiting a long time...
05:37 Doc22 i have a pc from 2004
05:37 Doc22 really slow
05:37 OldCoder Yes
05:38 Doc22 and the sad thing is that it is the fastest one in my family D:
05:38 OldCoder Sounds odd
05:38 OldCoder Slow ones
05:38 Doc22 ikr
05:38 OldCoder must be a problem
05:38 Doc22 the reason my dads pc is slow is because it is vista
05:38 Doc22 vista is unstable
05:39 Doc22 still connecting to 30005
05:39 Doc22 not getting any connection
05:43 OldCoder Hmm
05:43 OldCoder I have no answer; try a higher numbered world
05:44 OldCoder I see you timed out on that one
05:44 OldCoder The reason for timeouts is not yet known
05:44 Doc22 probably the internet
05:44 OldCoder Internet? Or Vista networking?
05:44 Doc22 ill try the next ones in a minute
05:44 Doc22 idk
05:44 Doc22 this one is windows 7
05:45 OldCoder k
05:45 Doc22 the one im on
05:45 Doc22 oldcoder how old are yo
05:45 Doc22 you*(
05:45 OldCoder Very
05:46 OldCoder We were
05:46 Doc22 lol
05:46 OldCoder beta testers for dirt
05:46 Doc22 :D
05:46 OldCoder They brought us dirt and said
05:46 OldCoder Is it good
05:46 OldCoder And we said
05:46 OldCoder Yes, it is good
05:46 Doc22 :D
05:46 OldCoder And they said, very well; we shall use dirt
05:46 OldCoder And there was dirt
05:46 OldCoder
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06:25 ruskie *yawn*
06:27 * Doc22 yawns
06:32 OldCoder Now you've done it
06:32 * OldCoder yawns
06:35 ruskie hehe
06:35 * ruskie went to sleep at 20:00 or so last night... it is now 07:36 or so
06:36 celeron55 http://pastebin.com/GEqnQKcG
06:37 hmmmm CoRNeRNoTe
06:37 hmmmm So LeeT
06:38 hmmmm omg people AlT CaPz ThEiR N4m3
06:38 ruskie well that's certainly nice to hear
06:39 hmmmm omg drama :)
06:39 OldCoder celeron55, R
06:39 celeron55 R.
06:39 OldCoder R = Reviewing
06:40 OldCoder celeron55, He indicated he might do this. Asked me not to comment until he did. Glad to see he's feeling a bit better.
06:41 OldCoder celeron55, RealBadAngel asked me to build your latest code for a network test. But he couldn't connect with a new client and I couldn't with an old one. I'll need to stay with thexyz fork for now unless it's possible to revert the code that causes the nodebox serialization error.
06:41 OldCoder
06:42 OldCoder Rather... the latest code in master
06:42 celeron55 http://c55.me/random/2012-11/cornernote_forums.zip
06:42 OldCoder ruskie, plenty of rest then
06:42 OldCoder celeron55, R
06:42 celeron55 OldCoder: he probably means the tcp_blocks branch
06:43 OldCoder Yes. But his link didn't specify that.
06:43 OldCoder I could try to pull that branch.
06:43 OldCoder I promised NekoGloop a build, though; and thexyz that I'd try to get LevelDB working under Windows.
06:44 OldCoder Proceeding with a test there first.
06:44 Doc22 good night
06:44 OldCoder Doc22, good night
06:45 OldCoder celeron55, would thexyz be aware of tcp_blocks changes?
06:46 OldCoder I assume this is a core dev question btw :p
06:54 OldCoder I am asleep
06:54 OldCoder This is sleep typing
06:54 OldCoder Zzz
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09:26 cy1 Hey I made it back!
09:46 celeron55 site succesfully moved to new server
09:46 celeron55 nobody should notice anything, but if something broke, shout at me
09:59 celeron55 by the way, for anyone who wants to clone all repos of people on github: http://blog.aheritier.net/clone-all-repositories-from-a-github-organization/
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12:02 OldCoder Back
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13:18 celeron55 got the api.minetest.net database
13:19 celeron55 if anyone is interested in building a new site out of this, i can put this up; but i think i'll attempt that
13:19 celeron55 i can run other platforms than php on the new server and i think i need some django practice 8)
13:19 Lumpio- >php
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13:21 celeron55 on the other hand... i could just put it up anyway: http://c55.me/random/2012-11/minetest_api_2012-11-08.sql
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13:34 NekoGloop dontcha just love it when minetest.net is down?
13:35 celeron55 it isn't
13:36 NekoGloop you sure 'bout that?
13:36 celeron55 works for me (tm)
13:36 NekoGloop "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to minetest.net"
13:37 celeron55 maybe you are using some kind of slowly updating dns servers
13:37 NekoGloop I'm using the internet.
13:38 celeron55 try www.minetest.net or http://5.9.130.165/minetest
13:38 NekoGloop "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.minetest.net"
13:39 NekoGloop "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to 5.9.130.165"
13:39 celeron55 fix your connection then
13:39 NekoGloop If my connection were the problem i couldnt be here and listening to youtube video at the same time.
13:40 celeron55 it's obviously broken at some part
13:40 celeron55 otherwise you'd be able to connect to 5.9.130.165
13:40 NekoGloop And it's just entirely impossible that your end is the broken one?
13:40 celeron55 pretty much
13:40 NekoGloop haha yeah right.
13:40 NekoGloop I'll believe that never.
13:41 celeron55 you're the first one to complain, and it's been up for over 4 hours already
13:41 celeron55 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minetest.net
13:41 NekoGloop So, again, noone cares about the one who actually have a problem.
13:42 celeron55 there's simply nothing i could possibly do
13:42 NekoGloop other than figuring out what the fuck happened on your end?
13:43 NekoGloop because i could connect fine not 6 hours ago.
13:43 celeron55 "my end" is some random machine in a random datacenter in germany, and 6 hours ago it was some other random machine in the same place
13:46 NekoGloop well that explains why connecting to minetest.net is always so slow.
13:46 NekoGloop pinging said IP failed as well.
13:47 celeron55 i can ping your ip from the host machine
13:47 celeron55 umm no
13:47 celeron55 i can't
13:48 NekoGloop I imagine you added a line similar to this: "if os == windows then fail end"
13:49 celeron55 http://pastebin.com/zdxwVksw
13:50 celeron55 it almost gets to your machine but your isp screws up i guess
13:50 NekoGloop go figure. Comcast is a dick.
13:51 celeron55 also there is a nice over one second delay in your isp's network 8)
13:52 NekoGloop well i knew that.
13:53 NekoGloop probably just crap factors on all figures.
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13:54 Lumpio- 8)
13:55 NekoGloop this reminds me of the one time another game refused to connect, even though everything else worked for it.
13:56 NekoGloop the reason everyone thought of at the "help desk" they had?
13:56 NekoGloop "is your computer connected to the internet"
13:56 celeron55 maybe you could try getting a new ip for your router and see what happens
13:56 NekoGloop How. The fuck. Would i be talking to you if my connection was the problem?
13:56 NekoGloop celeron55: yeah... right :3
13:56 celeron55 that is, dhcp renew
13:57 ruskie NekoGloop, I've had connection problems to specific servers on datacenters before
13:57 ruskie it's due to routing
13:57 ruskie aka the dark arts of internet
13:57 ruskie that no users really knows about
13:57 celeron55 well obviously it is
13:57 ruskie I traced it through and even reported it to my isp who got me in touch with their upstream provider who basically said... no sorry we can't do anything about it
13:58 celeron55 the thing i pasted would be very useful for those that might try fixing it
13:58 NekoGloop well i guess everything to do with minetest doesnt want me here.
13:58 NekoGloop off to bore myself with something else.
13:58 ruskie well the no replys are standard
13:58 ruskie since not all routers allow such traffic through which is stupid
13:59 celeron55 well, generally it does get through
13:59 ruskie yeah just doesn't respond
13:59 celeron55 and as nothing gets through, that not getting through at the same point is a good guess
13:59 * ruskie can't help it if most consumer level ISPs offer crap services
14:00 celeron55 well, pretty much the only thing they need to care is to make sure facebook works
14:00 celeron55 and youtub
14:00 celeron55 +e
14:03 OldCoder Can you do a traceroute?
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14:33 celeron55 OldCoder: see my paste; it was from the host to nekogloop
14:33 OldCoder celeron55, Hi
14:33 OldCoder Reviewing
14:34 OldCoder celeron55, Indeed. Things break down in Michigan.
14:35 celeron55 altough as said, the routers of consumer isps don't always answer to those anyway
14:36 OldCoder Yes
14:36 OldCoder But I have found traceroute to be useful in general
14:36 celeron55 that being done from neko's side could've been more useful
14:36 OldCoder Yes
14:36 babyface1031 is the forums down i cant seem to get in them?
14:36 OldCoder Hmm
14:36 celeron55 oh, another? 8D
14:37 OldCoder Main site works or not babyface1031 ?
14:37 babyface1031 the main the one that is at the top of this page
14:38 OldCoder It works?
14:40 babyface1031 must be my end i keep getting a 504 error
14:40 babyface1031 D:
14:40 OldCoder Error 504. Server side. Which one was that?
14:40 * OldCoder checks
14:40 OldCoder Oh
14:40 OldCoder Timeout
14:40 celeron55 it's proxy side
14:40 celeron55 generally
14:40 OldCoder Proxy?
14:40 OldCoder Whose proxy?
14:41 celeron55 babyface1031 is using a http proxy that can't find route to the http server
14:41 OldCoder Oh!
14:41 OldCoder babyface1031, is this true?
14:41 OldCoder Are you using a proxy?
14:42 celeron55 overally, it could be that the ip has recently switched owner and the routing information will be updated sometime to more places
14:42 babyface1031 oh i havent done anything diffrent so idk
14:42 OldCoder k
14:42 celeron55 like, moved much in the network
14:42 OldCoder to both
14:42 celeron55 babyface1031: the server was moved to a different machine, and it appears all isps don't yet correctly route packets to it
14:43 babyface1031 oh ok
14:43 celeron55 hopefully it'll get fixed by waiting
14:43 babyface1031 ok
14:44 celeron55 that was done roughly 5 hours ago
14:44 celeron55 maybe it'll update daily or so; no idea
14:46 babyface1031 Ok it fine i just like looking at the forums for the servers to see whats going on and the mods to see updates and if there is anything new
14:46 celeron55 you could use some free open proxy
14:47 * OldCoder is on an errand and will return soon
14:47 celeron55 maybe this'll work http://www.unblock-proxy.net/permalink.php?url=AZGg7shBKqhWuAvGFvjuebeIJV8BZGnCr4ESZiZqhnBf%2FMgIqMi4SHKzEqStq8nXZypP2Eb1MkCoAWtWS54zYw%3D%3D
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14:49 babyface1031 ty it worked
14:49 celeron55 dunno if you can post with that, but it works for browsing :P
14:50 babyface1031 i dont post that much so its fine
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15:07 OdnetninI minetest.org port 3000, is a normal world with normal priviligies?
15:07 OdnetninI *3
15:08 OdnetninI *30000
15:08 OdnetninI Oldcoder.
15:09 OdnetninI OldCoder
15:12 OdnetninI OldCoder, can you give me build priviligie at 30000server
15:12 OdnetninI ?
15:13 OdnetninI Not, don't give me anything
15:26 celeron55 lol wut
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15:32 Doc22 hey babyface
15:32 Doc22 babyface1031
15:33 Doc22 want to play
15:35 babyface1031 sure
15:35 Doc22 ok 1 sec
15:35 Doc22 i mined a LOT
15:35 Doc22 i can only play a little while but what the heck
15:36 babyface1031 ok
15:36 Doc22 and i got started in technic
15:36 Doc22 ok join
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15:46 Calinou TOTY (Typo Of The Year) award goes to...
15:46 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51298#p51298
15:46 Calinou "zyz and Sokomine, I will try minetest.ru and Redcrap and Calinou later."
15:46 Calinou that guy wants to try me :<
15:47 Doc22 lol
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15:49 Jordach VanessaE y u have op
15:49 Jordach also hello all
15:50 babyface1031 hi
15:53 Calinou hi
15:53 * Calinou removed windows and installed the non-half-assed OS(R) on his netbook
15:53 Calinou boots/shutdowns faster, uses less RAM
15:53 ruskie hehe
15:59 Jordach im starting work on a fpsgame similar to halo
15:59 Jordach (FOSS of course)
15:59 Calinou Jordach: check out octaforge
15:59 Jordach hm?
15:59 Calinou http://octaforge.org
15:59 Calinou cube-2 based game. open source, scriptable with lua
15:59 Calinou (it's still in development, but should be somehow usable)
16:00 Jordach Calinou - i dont wanna use a doom / quake engine
16:00 Jordach im building my own
16:00 Jordach because my idea is different
16:00 Jordach think the periodic table
16:01 Calinou it's not doom or quake
16:01 Calinou cube 2 uses its own engine
16:01 Jordach (AND 64 player team battles 8 players over 8 teams)
16:01 Calinou in-game cooperative map editing, realtime lighting...
16:01 Calinou you can do that
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16:01 Calinou you can even make games that aren't FPSes with octaforge :P
16:01 Jordach i dont wish to be tied into a license
16:03 Calinou what the fu-- http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1
16:03 Calinou someone ACTUALLY upvoted this?
16:03 Calinou (my post, not the above guy's post)
16:03 Doc22 lolz
16:05 thexyz nice new ip you have there, 5.9.130.165
16:05 thexyz the best way to stop hamachi users from accessing minetest.net
16:06 ruskie heh
16:06 Jordach thexyz whos ip
16:06 thexyz Jordach: minetest.net
16:06 Jordach woah
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16:08 Jordach hello PilzAdam
16:08 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
16:09 PilzAdam finally found a way to play MT on the school computers
16:09 ruskie heh
16:09 Jordach hm, flashpen?
16:10 PilzAdam wine + win build
16:10 Jordach omfg
16:10 Jordach also http://minetest.ru/nyansearch/
16:10 PilzAdam with a max framerat of 8 FPS
16:10 PilzAdam *framerate
16:12 Calinou <PilzAdam> wine + win build
16:12 Calinou you need root or admin account to install stuff :P
16:12 Calinou and anyway, since when school computers have passwords for root account?
16:12 Calinou :>
16:12 PilzAdam wine is pre installed
16:13 PilzAdam and i run it directly from USB drive
16:14 Calinou what distro?
16:14 Calinou oh
16:15 PilzAdam its openSUSE
16:18 celeron55 thexyz: umm...?
16:18 thexyz celeron55: http://community.logmein.com/t5/Hamachi/Hamachi-and-the-5-0-0-0-8-netblock/td-p/55826
16:19 celeron55 well, what the fuck man
16:20 thexyz hm.. seems like c55 thinks i said he should care about those users
16:20 celeron55 why does hamachi take the whole 5.0.0.0?
16:20 celeron55 sounds like quite excessive
16:20 thexyz because they're assholes
16:20 ruskie because it used to be unused and reserved
16:21 thexyz i guess that was the neko's problem
16:22 PilzAdam cornernote is pshing to his minetest repo again
16:22 PilzAdam *pushing
16:23 Calinou *phishing
16:23 Calinou he's scamming himself. :D
16:23 celeron55 he put up the stuff because he doesn't want to screw up the community by making his work not easily available
16:26 celeron55 http://community.logmein.com/t5/Hamachi/5-x-x-x-Address-Range/td-p/83996
16:26 celeron55 maybe somebody should add ipv6 support to minetest 8)
16:27 celeron55 it's probably very simple for somebody with experience in adding ipv6 support to native socket code; just modify socket.{h,cpp}
16:27 iqualfragile http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3562 i just ran across this thread
16:27 iqualfragile is the whole minetest-community that young?
16:28 Calinou alias someone='iqualfragile'
16:28 Calinou now do it, .bashrc says so
16:29 OldCoder Hi
16:29 OldCoder Back
16:29 iqualfragile calinou: no!
16:29 iqualfragile hi oldcoder
16:29 OldCoder thexyz, can you comment on export of LevelDB to SQLite3 ? Runs and reports block counts and success but only 3KB output is produced
16:29 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hey
16:30 * VanessaE peeks in for a few
16:30 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
16:30 OldCoder G M
16:30 VanessaE hi all.
16:30 VanessaE celeron55: you will probably want to pay attention to that leveldb stuff, btw.
16:30 OldCoder thexyz, your latest code runs fine as server. Will attempt Windows client shortly. Maybe with LevelDB there.
16:34 * OldCoder is puzzled by Odnet* request
16:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi. Can you comment when you stop by? I wish to ask regarding item drop and pickup
16:38 thexyz OldCoder: it worked for me
16:39 OldCoder thexyz, all right
16:39 thexyz let me test it once again..
16:39 OldCoder thexyz, I'll confirm the problem different ways and provide you with a LevelDB set to test
16:39 OldCoder I assume that LevelDB data is portable; or is there a 32 vs. 64 bit issue?
16:41 celeron55 http://b.logme.in/2012/11/07/changes-to-hamachi-on-november-19th/
16:41 thexyz OldCoder: still works fine
16:41 Calinou instagram-style domains FTL
16:41 thexyz did you shut down your server?
16:41 celeron55 that means hamachi users will most definitely be able to access 5.0.0.0/8 after 11 days
16:42 celeron55 (assuming they will update their software)
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16:42 thexyz > Why 25/8? Well, it rhymes a bit with 5/8, and furthermore, it’s a block that’s been allocated to a foreign government agency for private use for almost two decades.
16:43 thexyz > it’s highly unlikely that the general public would need to access one of these IP addresses
16:46 dzho lol as they say wut
16:46 OldCoder thexyz, of course; re shutdown. But I will test on different databases.
16:47 OldCoder I will test with the world in question again in one hour
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17:03 celeron55 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/AMD-dismisses-numerous-open-source-developers-1745131.html
17:03 celeron55 amd is now officially not worth bying at all (as if it ever was)
17:06 OldCoder R
17:06 OldCoder What does this mean for AMD Linux support?
17:07 * Jordach has a Intel CPU
17:07 * Jordach then laughs like a evil genius
17:07 OldCoder Jordach, hey
17:08 Jordach hey
17:08 ruskie OldCoder nothing much
17:08 ruskie since they still have people working on linux support
17:09 Jordach AMD is the Microsoft of the CPU busniness#
17:09 ruskie that would be intel
17:10 ruskie http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/07/amd_closes_german_osrc_lab/
17:11 ruskie update to the news story theer
17:11 Jordach you are forgetting who amd are, they also own ati
17:11 ruskie your point?(/me has been using ati since 1998)
17:12 Jordach they clearly dont give two shits about linux
17:12 ruskie so all these specs and firmware they give to the kernel is not caring
17:12 ruskie sorry... nvidia doesn't care
17:12 ruskie amd and intel both care
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17:15 rubenwardy hi all
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17:18 OldCoder rubenwardy, Hello
17:18 iqualfragile PilzAdam: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3025 can you elaborate?
17:18 iqualfragile hi rubenwardy
17:20 Calinou nvidia + intel ftw :P
17:20 PilzAdam iqualfragile, lol?
17:21 iqualfragile you just said dont use this
17:22 rubenwardy is there a 0.4.3 with shaders?
17:22 PilzAdam no
17:23 Jordach if i worked with shaders id end up making an exact copy of sonic ethers mod
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17:27 rubenwardy lol
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17:34 * VanessaE pokes rubenwardy just because
17:35 VanessaE whoa, wtf?
17:35 VanessaE connecting to redcrab:30401 ->
17:35 VanessaE 12:35:45: ERROR[main]: A serialization error occurred:
17:35 VanessaE 12:35:45: ERROR[main]: unsupported NodeBox version
17:35 VanessaE 12:35:45: ERROR[main]: The server is probably  running a different version of Minetest.
17:35 VanessaE that's a new one on me.
17:43 OldCoder Yes
17:44 OldCoder I can't use latest C55 code
17:44 * rubenwardy1 pokes VanessaE back :D
17:44 VanessaE anyone know of a solution?
17:44 OldCoder Only not to upgrade servers
17:44 OldCoder Or to upgrade them and replace all clients
17:44 OldCoder I'd like to revert whichever server change is causing that
17:44 OldCoder
17:45 OldCoder thexyz servers aren't doing it yet
17:46 VanessaE my minetest build is only three days old though
17:46 thexyz OldCoder: send me your map.db
17:46 * Calinou likes the new animated water in latest git
17:48 Jordach o hai MC featuere
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17:51 * VanessaE sighs
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17:54 NekoGloop well I'm bored.
17:55 PilzAdam hi NekoGloop
17:55 PilzAdam want a OS war?
17:55 NekoGloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;v=iyJo-65hEx0&amp;NR=1
17:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you look through the latest commits from the last three days and tell me wtf is causing the above nodebox version error?
17:56 VanessaE I can't seem to find anything that explains it.
17:56 NekoGloop VanessaE: farther back
17:56 NekoGloop try a week or so
17:57 VanessaE well back to Sept. 9 anyway, but the next commit after that is Oct 31, then Nov 1.
17:57 NekoGloop shows that minetest isnt being worked on :P
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17:59 NekoGloop i still cant access minetest.net.
17:59 VanessaE NekoGloop: the forums?  works fine for me?
18:00 PilzAdam yep forks good
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18:00 PilzAdam *works
18:00 NekoGloop pinging the server says it times out.
18:00 briareoh Hi all, I'm having problems mining stone & coal blocks
18:00 NekoGloop briareoh: use a pickaxe.
18:00 briareoh mmmm I can't mine it with hands?
18:00 VanessaE no
18:00 PilzAdam nope
18:00 VanessaE make a wooden pick
18:00 NekoGloop why would you be able to?
18:01 briareoh ok thanks
18:01 VanessaE mine with that till it runs out, then make a stone pick and mine with that until you have enough iron to make steel picks with
18:01 briareoh NekoGloop: xD
18:02 NekoGloop thank you for the unneccessary highlight.
18:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/2863a3291a5cc9be8eeff063cd187a783e58c163
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18:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: I doubt it, there's nothing in that commit that changes the version number of the nodeboxes, however that's done anyway
18:03 VanessaE my build from Nov 4 is also broken now
18:04 VanessaE (when connecting to redcrab:30401 I mean)
18:04 PilzAdam i cant see any other changes that could cause this
18:05 VanessaE (not sure if it ever worked though, I don't recall the last time I connected to that server - been too busy)
18:05 NekoGloop VanessaE: you should texture my jeweling table for gems mod :3
18:05 VanessaE NekoGloop: I still haven't updated the textures for homedecor yet.
18:05 Jordach OldCoder - present?
18:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, never saw the error myself
18:05 OldCoder Yes
18:05 OldCoder Jordach,
18:05 OldCoder ^
18:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: can you try connecting to that server then?
18:05 Jordach oh, youre here
18:05 VanessaE redcrab.suret.net:30401
18:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, ip?
18:06 NekoGloop Someone please tell me the method with which minetest.net has feelings?
18:06 * PilzAdam lol'd about his typo: redcrap
18:07 ruskie NekoGloop, are you using hamachi?
18:07 VanessaE lol
18:07 NekoGloop ruskie: ?
18:07 ruskie NekoGloop, your problem accessing the server might be related
18:07 PilzAdam NekoGloop, fell();
18:07 PilzAdam *feel();
18:07 NekoGloop ruskie: how?
18:07 ruskie NekoGloop, uses the same ip range
18:07 ruskie NekoGloop, hamachi is changing that on teh 19th
18:07 PilzAdam VanessaE, seems i can connect
18:08 ruskie currently though it's using 5.x.x.x ips
18:08 ruskie and the server's ip is in the 5.x.x.x range
18:08 NekoGloop i never have hamachi -running- though. :l
18:08 VanessaE PilzAdam: how old is your client?
18:08 PilzAdam latest git
18:08 ruskie NekoGloop, do a traceroute nameofserver
18:08 ruskie and pastebin that
18:08 NekoGloop a what.
18:08 VanessaE PilzAdam: I just downgraded to my old Nov. 2 build and it connects.
18:09 ruskie google OS traceroute howto
18:09 VanessaE so the problem occurs after Nov. 2 but before Nov. 4
18:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, wait, maybe i dont have the latest commit...
18:09 VanessaE I think you don't :-)
18:10 artur99 where is the mese?
18:10 NekoGloop ruskie: Request Timed Out x30
18:11 ruskie NekoGloop, pastbin the entire trace
18:11 ruskie else it doesn't really help much
18:11 NekoGloop what the hell good will it be
18:11 NekoGloop it just times out every time it attempts.
18:11 ruskie on all hosts inbetween?
18:11 ruskie or just immediately?
18:11 NekoGloop on every number.
18:12 ruskie http://pastebin.com/zdxwVksw <-- so nothing like this?
18:13 NekoGloop ruskie: http://pastebin.com/BrMm9R4S
18:13 ruskie ok that means it's not even going out from you
18:13 ruskie do a route print and check if you have 5.0.0.0 in there somewhere
18:13 NekoGloop that means that every thing to do with minetest hates me.
18:13 NekoGloop but just me.
18:13 ruskie no
18:14 ruskie babyface had some issue as well iirc
18:15 NekoGloop ok then just everything to do with minetest hates me.
18:15 NekoGloop was bad enough when it was just the community.
18:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, ive updated to the lates git and now i got the same error
18:15 VanessaE ok
18:15 PilzAdam it seems like this commit causes it: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/8540871ebcfca6584051e1fc042951baa0ed3275
18:16 PilzAdam checking...
18:16 NekoGloop oh, gasp, RBA broke something?
18:16 NekoGloop soooooooooooooooooooooooo not surprised.
18:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: no
18:16 NekoGloop no to what?
18:16 VanessaE the problem occurs between the Nov 2 and Nov 4 builds.
18:17 VanessaE RBA's commit was pushed on nov 5
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18:18 PilzAdam okay, it is not RBA's commit
18:18 VanessaE you bisecting it?
18:19 PilzAdam yep
18:19 NekoGloop ruskie: i do.
18:19 VanessaE ok
18:19 PilzAdam VanessaE, Nov 02 definetly work?
18:19 VanessaE yes
18:19 PilzAdam are you 100% sure?
18:19 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetestc55_20121102-filtering-1_amd64.deb
18:19 VanessaE I just ran that build ^^^ and it worked fine.
18:19 PilzAdam maybe its this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/3cab24fbcfbbeb12cdd9f085167969e1a934bd59
18:20 VanessaE that was pulled the day it was built afaik.
18:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: maybe,
18:21 VanessaE nice going, thexyz :-)
18:21 NekoGloop lol
18:21 NekoGloop pinging webchat.freenode.net times out :P
18:21 VanessaE you bwoke it! :'(
18:22 ruskie NekoGloop, not all admins allow such traffic
18:22 NekoGloop ruskie: I -am- the admin.
18:23 ruskie NekoGloop, not your end
18:23 ruskie the other end needs to reply
18:23 ruskie if they don't accept pings you won't get a response
18:23 NekoGloop VanessaE: I get a better ping from you than irc.freenode.net.
18:23 NekoGloop :P
18:23 PilzAdam VanessaE, the commit before works fine
18:23 VanessaE I have a fat pipe :-)
18:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: recommend reverting that patch then.
18:24 VanessaE (sorry thexyz, it wasn't a good idea to change the protocol yet again)
18:24 PilzAdam yep, it is this commit
18:25 ruskie NekoGloop, have you checked route print or is it route show to see if 5.0.0.0 is in there anywhere
18:25 NekoGloop ruskie: it is.
18:25 ruskie then that's your problem
18:25 ruskie it shouldn't be
18:26 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYQ
18:26 NekoGloop what i do when I'm bored ^
18:26 OldCoder R
18:26 ruskie hehe
18:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, aweseome!
18:26 ruskie NekoGloop, you could try stopping the hamachi service(if there is such a thing) or uninstalling it
18:26 NekoGloop ruskie: fine
18:26 ruskie and check the route again
18:26 NekoGloop barely use it
18:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, that is very nice
18:27 NekoGloop ^w^
18:27 OldCoder Load it into one of the public worlds if you are so inclined
18:27 OldCoder Seriously, it's a nice little place
18:27 NekoGloop hehe
18:27 ruskie it is nice
18:27 NekoGloop i have a pool in front of it.
18:27 Jordach Jordach's building rating: 8/10
18:28 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYg
18:28 Jordach Jordach's building rating: 9/10
18:28 ruskie nice
18:28 OldCoder Ditto
18:28 NekoGloop NekoGloop's building rating: 0/10
18:28 babyface1031 can anyone help me with the recipe for the chain saw i cant get on the forums to look it up
18:29 Jordach ^ has hamacho
18:29 Jordach -o +i
18:29 ruskie babyface1031, 4 stainless steel
18:29 ruskie 2 batteries
18:29 ruskie and one copper ingot
18:29 ruskie SSB
18:29 ruskie SSB
18:29 ruskie ..C
18:29 babyface1031 ty
18:29 ruskie in such a config
18:30 * NekoGloop is waiting for add or remove programs to load...
18:31 Calinou NekoGloop: windows FTL
18:31 NekoGloop Calinou: riight.
18:32 NekoGloop and how many things have to be done in a command line in linux?
18:32 ruskie depends on the distro
18:32 ruskie but consider that windows is moving towards command line usage as well
18:33 ruskie powershell
18:33 NekoGloop haha
18:33 Calinou NekoGloop: it's possible to use linux without touching a terminal
18:33 Calinou but it destroys the whole point
18:33 Calinou ruskie: no...
18:33 NekoGloop the whole point of redundancy?
18:33 ruskie Calinou, ?
18:33 Calinou powershell is terribly limited
18:33 ruskie ow I'm not saying it's equal to linux shell
18:33 Calinou del ruskie
18:34 Calinou format ruskie
18:34 ruskie but apparently you should be able to manage all the tools with a gui through it
18:34 NekoGloop del Calinou
18:34 NekoGloop NOW.
18:34 Jordach chmod AK-47 777
18:34 Calinou it's the other way around
18:34 ruskie hehe
18:34 Calinou chmod 000 Jordach
18:35 NekoGloop /giveme gems:sword_mithril_topaz
18:35 NekoGloop Now, any questions?
18:36 Calinou /giveme air
18:36 NekoGloop I made a mesecons command block give the nearest person air -1
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18:41 NekoGloop So i assume noone cares about this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297
18:42 VanessaE someone must care if the topic is getting any activity at all :-)
18:42 VanessaE [Mod] Encrustable Gems [gems]
18:42 VanessaE by wowiamdiamonds
18:42 VanessaE 14
18:42 VanessaE 954
18:42 VanessaE 954 views.
18:42 NekoGloop I meant said post.
18:42 VanessaE oh
18:47 NekoGloop VanessaE: did you like my shack and the pool? :3
18:48 VanessaE I'm not sure I saw it
18:48 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYQ http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYg
18:49 VanessaE I love the pool
18:49 VanessaE the shack is...well... :-)
18:49 NekoGloop hey it has a chimney!
18:49 NekoGloop so Santa doesnt have to take the door! :D
18:49 VanessaE haha
18:49 Jordach s/:-)/shit
18:49 ruskie more than any of my constructions
18:49 VanessaE lol
18:50 NekoGloop I always put doors on both ends of my houses.
18:50 NekoGloop I dont know why i just do.
18:50 Jordach <- Grammar Nazi (no offense to the Polish / Germans)
18:50 NekoGloop Which makes that little shack's ground floor little more than a walkway.
18:51 ruskie heh
18:51 VanessaE NekoGloop: every house needs a front and a back door, and if you were in the midwest, I'd say also a kitchen door :-)
18:52 ruskie most of my stuff is built into or below the countryside
18:52 NekoGloop Behind the shack are two battery boxes wired to the electric devices on the gournd floor and basement.
18:52 NekoGloop ruskie: the shack is just so i dont forget where it is tbh.
18:52 ruskie heh
18:52 ruskie I build lighthouses... and of course home position teleport works
18:53 NekoGloop I always forget to set that :3
18:53 ruskie heh
18:53 ruskie first thing I do
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18:53 ruskie still need to build a lighthouse somewhere in my new area
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18:54 VanessaE new minetest build with graphics filtering settings is up (Ubuntu AMD64)
18:54 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/builds/minetestc55_20121108-filtering-1_amd64.deb
18:54 ruskie works with current servers?
18:54 VanessaE yes
18:54 ruskie can I get the source for that
18:54 VanessaE or at least, c55 implies it should :-)
18:55 VanessaE source?  get it from https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest
18:55 ruskie ok
18:55 VanessaE * checks on redcrab:30401....
18:55 VanessaE and it seems to work.
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18:57 NekoGloop rubenwardy: http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYQ http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYg My shack and swimming pool! :D
18:57 rubenwardy Minetest in 3d <3
18:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, what distro do you use?
18:57 VanessaE Ubuntu
18:58 VanessaE (Precise)
18:58 NekoGloop stereoscopic 3d in minetest? :D
18:58 VanessaE AMD64
18:58 rubenwardy yes
18:58 rubenwardy by thexyzz
18:59 VanessaE bbl.
18:59 NekoGloop rubenwardy: do you like my shack? :o
18:59 rubenwardy is it possible to increase the bright ness of minetest?
18:59 rubenwardy yes, i would not live there though
18:59 NekoGloop rubenwardy: get a better monitor
18:59 rubenwardy not big enough for my clothes
18:59 NekoGloop rubenwardy: most of the real estate it takes up is underground.
18:59 rubenwardy no, it is because my glasses are too dark
19:00 rubenwardy the screen is bright enough
19:00 NekoGloop rubenwardy: dont use sunglasses when playing minetest :3
19:00 rubenwardy 3d glasses
19:00 NekoGloop ah.
19:00 NekoGloop thought xyz made it be like 3ds.
19:01 NekoGloop of course, that would mean your monitor supports that.
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19:01 rubenwardy no
19:02 rubenwardy no computer screen supports that
19:02 NekoGloop yes they do
19:02 NekoGloop they're just not sold in stores.
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19:10 FreeFull http://i.imgur.com/ZWuQr.png
19:10 NekoGloop the hell is that.
19:11 FreeFull It's a cube
19:11 FreeFull That got twisted
19:11 FreeFull So now it's a twisted cube
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19:13 Jordach FreeFull - freebsd?
19:13 FreeFull Nope, linux
19:16 Jordach i got the Nuclear Reactor working
19:16 Jordach OldCoder - prepare your self
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19:19 Jordach celeron55 - you said darkrose should not work on a nuclear reactor: https://github.com/Jordach/technic/commit/36979ebffd0d751ab0070d990415b8cc67aee990
19:20 OldCoder Hey
19:20 OldCoder R
19:20 OldCoder Heh
19:20 OldCoder Fallout!
19:21 NekoGloop I say we work on the simpler things from tekkit :P
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19:21 Jordach https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/2
19:21 NekoGloop Jordach: like my shack and pool? http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYQ http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYg
19:22 Jordach yes
19:22 OldCoder I am resting for a few minutes before an errand
19:22 * Jordach wants faster drill recharging times
19:22 NekoGloop I tried to not use too much bricks because they're so fucking hard to get.
19:23 NekoGloop if there was a condenser i'd make it condense dirt into clay.
19:23 Jordach thats an idea
19:26 RealBadAngel hmmm
19:26 RealBadAngel mix dirt with water to get mould?
19:27 NekoGloop what?
19:27 NekoGloop satanicircnick: lol.
19:27 RealBadAngel ups
19:27 RealBadAngel mud
19:28 NekoGloop mud: high viscosity liquid?
19:28 MiJyn hi
19:28 MiJyn (again)
19:28 RealBadAngel dirt mixed with water :P
19:28 MiJyn mud?
19:28 MiJyn :P
19:28 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYQ http://ompldr.org/vZzcwYg do you like my shack and pool? :3
19:28 haiku2012 hp666/satanicircnick/haiku2012 is a haiku
19:28 RealBadAngel at least dictionary says it the correct word
19:29 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, seen the pool
19:29 RealBadAngel nice
19:29 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: It is.
19:29 NekoGloop I'm just wondering what it would be in minetest.
19:29 RealBadAngel ha, got the idea to get clay
19:29 RealBadAngel nothin easy tho
19:30 RealBadAngel grind sandstone
19:30 NekoGloop condenser need not be easy.
19:30 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: would make sand, no?
19:30 RealBadAngel good point
19:30 NekoGloop condenser recipe:
19:30 NekoGloop O T O
19:31 NekoGloop T M T
19:31 NekoGloop O T O
19:31 NekoGloop O = Obsidian
19:31 NekoGloop T = Talinite Ingot
19:31 RealBadAngel forget the recipe
19:31 NekoGloop M = Mithril chest.
19:31 RealBadAngel how it shall work is more important
19:31 NekoGloop Easy.
19:31 RealBadAngel click and go, i know
19:31 RealBadAngel now explain the rules :)
19:32 NekoGloop I had such a thing in my failed game mode.
19:32 RealBadAngel i feel i know where its goin
19:32 NekoGloop hm?
19:33 RealBadAngel kinda left to technic, magic way
19:33 NekoGloop who said this is technic>?
19:33 RealBadAngel it fits perfectly the magic way
19:34 RealBadAngel tank has already planned such a machine
19:34 RealBadAngel but with different functions
19:35 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mX3RkDH2
19:35 NekoGloop -compresser- not -condenser-
19:35 RealBadAngel maybe you could work on it, i mean the magic tree together?
19:35 NekoGloop Also, I find it funny you can condense a condenser in tekkit :3
19:36 RealBadAngel i will just support magic wires and so on
19:36 NekoGloop why should magic need wires?
19:36 NekoGloop after all, it's magic! :D
19:36 RealBadAngel as in thaumcraft
19:36 RealBadAngel not exaclty the wires
19:36 NekoGloop I'm thinking more EE
19:37 RealBadAngel but way to produce and store energy, magical one
19:37 RealBadAngel my wires algorithms can do that
19:38 RealBadAngel EE was cool too
19:38 RealBadAngel way to transmute was great
19:38 NekoGloop EE -is- cool :D
19:38 NekoGloop *cough*blaze-rod-diamond-machine*cough*
19:38 RealBadAngel im using past because i dont play mt anymore
19:38 RealBadAngel mc
19:39 RealBadAngel im takin my ideas just from what i do remember
19:39 NekoGloop well.
19:40 NekoGloop for starters, the condenser can run off of furnace-like code.
19:40 NekoGloop but rather than looking through registered recipes with type "cooking" and "fuel", look at technic.emc_values[srcname]
19:41 NekoGloop and technic.emc_values[fuelname]
19:41 NekoGloop output is srcname, etc...
19:41 NekoGloop dont remove from src once done "cooking"
19:42 NekoGloop My house is so cozy~ :3
19:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297 Jeweling table :3
19:45 RealBadAngel for proper use of EMC you shall define the calues for each and every possible node
19:45 RealBadAngel *values
19:45 NekoGloop well, at least all the ones reasonably condensable
19:46 NekoGloop for example, one shouldnt be able to condense ore nodes because one cant normally get ore nodes.
19:46 RealBadAngel yeah, with logic
19:46 RealBadAngel no point to condense the batbox
19:46 RealBadAngel or transmute it
19:46 NekoGloop well i think there would be a point to that but not logical.
19:47 RealBadAngel EE used way to learn transmutation table new kind of object
19:47 NekoGloop i saw that
19:47 RealBadAngel so you cant transmute cobble to battery box
19:48 RealBadAngel before you have already crafted one
19:48 RealBadAngel then you can agree to pay lets say 1000 cobble or more for 1 batbox
19:49 RealBadAngel as i remember 1 diamond was worth 8192 cobble or dirt
19:49 NekoGloop yep
19:49 NekoGloop same with one of the alchemical fuels.
19:49 RealBadAngel most advanced EE machines were worth hundreds of thousands
19:50 RealBadAngel set of superior armor were worth like 150 milions of EMC
19:50 NekoGloop klein star omega cant be condensed, not from lack of EMC value but rather from condenser not able to stockpile so much EMC.
19:50 Jordach why cant we add groups?
19:51 NekoGloop Jordach: hm?
19:51 Jordach ure groups to id their emc level
19:51 Jordach -r +e
19:51 NekoGloop obviously.
19:51 RealBadAngel good point
19:51 NekoGloop except how -exactly- do i tag that to default materials?
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19:51 RealBadAngel predefine them
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19:52 NekoGloop well..
19:52 NekoGloop let's say the cactus
19:52 NekoGloop if this method is used..
19:52 RealBadAngel lets say 32 EMC
19:52 * VanessaE is back, with a new kitten :-)
19:52 NekoGloop we have to redefine the cactus.
19:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: D:
19:52 RealBadAngel no
19:52 RealBadAngel just make a table with values
19:53 NekoGloop oh i see
19:53 RealBadAngel node, value
19:53 NekoGloop combine what i was thinking with what jordach said.
19:53 RealBadAngel and predefine all here
19:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: aw come on, she's adorable :-)
19:53 NekoGloop srcitem.groups.emc or technic.emc_values[srcname]
19:53 RealBadAngel wb VanessaE, now i can answer your questions, in the mornin i was in hurry
19:54 NekoGloop VanessaE: but... but... I'm the kitty of #minetest :3
19:54 RealBadAngel to not get late to work
19:54 VanessaE hold that thought
19:54 Jordach VanessaE - G+ some pics
19:54 VanessaE in a few mins I'll get a pic of her
19:54 Jordach or imgur, photobucket, picasa, whatever
19:54 Jordach KITTEH!
19:56 VanessaE http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/24564123
19:56 NekoGloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLAQm2OcC-4&amp;feature=watch-vrec
19:57 VanessaE the black and white cat next to Whiskers in this picture, her name is Cookie
19:57 OldCoder R
19:57 Jordach AWWWW.
19:58 NekoGloop hm...
19:58 NekoGloop should i use marble bricks for my pool or something else...?
19:58 OldCoder Either might work
19:58 NekoGloop either?
19:59 Jordach i have a feature idea, real time maps
19:59 Jordach http://play.minecraftworlds.info:8123/# like this
19:59 Jordach (they have endless res detail with textured blocks in 2.5d)
19:59 NekoGloop Jordach: there is such a thing, dunno about the detail of the map though
20:00 Jordach our py mapper is done when a request is made, this is when the server is operating and on the fly
20:00 NekoGloop not talking about that.
20:00 NekoGloop Someone adapted that to realtime
20:00 NekoGloop dont remember who, or what they called it.
20:01 RealBadAngel there was such topic
20:01 Jordach it also tracks players that link
20:01 RealBadAngel with an answer like a year after last post
20:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: IMO brick blocks from default set dont look bad at all
20:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OI9hs.png max zoom
20:04 NekoGloop yeah i dont think we have that though.
20:05 NekoGloop jungles are hellasiously tall in MC
20:06 NekoGloop Jordach: there's a dirt house on that map lol
20:08 Jordach and with A EXTREME CLOSE UP http://i.imgur.com/036TK.jpg
20:08 NekoGloop lol @ the building with "baka" written on it XD (touhou canon reference FTW)
20:09 NekoGloop the netherrack tunnel is burning? :P
20:09 Jordach also, the shaded section is actually owned sections
20:09 NekoGloop i see
20:10 Jordach we need better stuff
20:11 NekoGloop be more specific :P
20:11 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, are you kidding me? default bricks sucks worldwide
20:11 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: nope.
20:11 RealBadAngel universe wide
20:11 NekoGloop Old default bricks? yes, yes they do
20:12 RealBadAngel so show me better ones
20:12 NekoGloop The ones with decent shading? They're perfect to my tastes.
20:12 NekoGloop look at my shack
20:12 RealBadAngel bricks in the first place shall be orange, dark
20:12 RealBadAngel not the fuckin red=255 ones
20:12 NekoGloop these arent red=255
20:13 RealBadAngel close enough
20:13 NekoGloop closer to red=170
20:13 RealBadAngel and others to 0
20:13 NekoGloop nope
20:13 FreeFull Too saturated
20:15 NekoGloop FreeFull: less saturation: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxYg
20:15 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: this is default: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxYw
20:16 ruskie hmm for caly I'd go 4 parts dirt 1 part water as a recipe... possibly in the alloy furnace
20:16 ruskie erm clay
20:16 NekoGloop ruskie: no
20:17 FreeFull NekoGloop: I'm thinking darker and not thaat desaturated
20:17 VanessaE https://plus.google.com/photos/115185144897764436393/albums/5808538157856315377?banner=pwa
20:17 FreeFull Like those real brick walls
20:17 VanessaE Pictures of Cookie ^^^
20:18 NekoGloop FreeFull: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxZA ?
20:18 NekoGloop and, before you ask, yes i can rush perfection.
20:18 NekoGloop :3
20:18 FreeFull That's about the right brightness
20:19 FreeFull Maybe desaturation is not the best thing to do when making dark brick
20:20 RealBadAngel hmmmm
20:20 PilzAdam gtg; bye
20:20 NekoGloop FreeFull: a tad browner, on just the bricks themselves: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxZw
20:21 RealBadAngel lemme gimp something
20:21 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzcxaA That is an interesting effect.
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20:24 NekoGloop FreeFull: what about this: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxag ?
20:24 FreeFull NekoGloop: That brown one reminds me of chocolate
20:24 FreeFull No mortar actually looks blue
20:24 NekoGloop well that can be fixed
20:24 NekoGloop I shrunk that "interesting effect"
20:25 NekoGloop protip: dont increase sharpness at 128x if texturing 16x
20:25 VanessaE hah
20:25 NekoGloop I stretch images to 128 for uploading
20:25 NekoGloop so that you guys can see them without squinting at your monitors.
20:27 VanessaE bah, bricks and more bricks, and no one wants to comment on our pictures of Cookie? :(
20:27 Jordach i said awwwwwww earlier
20:27 NekoGloop VanessaE: here, have a cookie :3
20:27 VanessaE Jordach: better pictures at that link above
20:27 VanessaE https://plus.google.com/photos/115185144897764436393/albums/5808538157856315377?banner=pwa
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20:29 Jordach *sees old computer*is that yours VanessaE
20:29 Jordach and bawwww
20:29 VanessaE old?
20:30 VanessaE er, the computer is less than a year old
20:30 Jordach VanessaE - did you teach your cat the spock method?
20:30 babyface1031 what is akalin used for
20:30 Jordach cant remember
20:31 NekoGloop blocks
20:31 NekoGloop if you have my modified gems mod you make the jeweling table with it.
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20:34 NekoGloop I wish we had surface lava lakes
20:37 ruskie I wish we had volcanoes
20:37 RealBadAngel oke doke, made bricks, imho nice ones
20:38 Jordach my array of two reactors + 16 mv solar panels is lovely
20:38 NekoGloop FreeFull: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxbw
20:38 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, http://realbadangel.pl/default_brick.png
20:38 OldCoder I am on an errand for about an hour
20:38 RealBadAngel test it out
20:40 Jordach VanessaE - im getting the big bullshit award
20:40 NekoGloop fine. though it looks like shit in 2d.
20:40 VanessaE ?
20:40 Jordach 60fps dead all of the time with a 32x pack
20:40 Jordach this is as smooth as melted butter on toast
20:41 RealBadAngel my texture for bricks looks like shit?
20:41 NekoGloop yup
20:41 NekoGloop like bars of shit
20:41 RealBadAngel eat those red one if you like
20:41 RealBadAngel and stop bothering me
20:42 FreeFull NekoGloop: That looks good
20:42 FreeFull RealBadAngel's looks good too though
20:42 NekoGloop FreeFull: meh
20:42 VanessaE fuck it, just use the brick textures from unifiedbricks in HDX :-)
20:42 * RealBadAngel is off
20:42 FreeFull Testing it on real geometry is of course important
20:42 VanessaE nothing beats those :-)
20:42 NekoGloop FreeFull: his dont look too good on a real cube though.
20:42 Jordach next time, dont piss him off
20:42 Jordach hes the technic guy
20:43 NekoGloop I dont give a fuck
20:43 FreeFull NekoGloop: I think my opinion on textures isn't 100% best
20:43 FreeFull Experiment with it more
20:43 Jordach cant we just use cisoun's?
20:43 NekoGloop doing mine now
20:43 NekoGloop Jordach: apparently those are "too saturated"
20:44 Jordach those are fine
20:44 NekoGloop ikr>
20:44 Jordach VanessaE - make some 16px bricks to resolve this matter
20:44 FreeFull Ignore any stated opinions from before
20:44 NekoGloop my last ones should look much better.
20:44 Jordach i really have grown tired of #minetest fights, i wanna play the god damn game and work on technic
20:44 NekoGloop desaturated + more contrast.
20:45 cisoun too saturated ?
20:45 cisoun w00t
20:45 cisoun then check out the old versions.
20:45 NekoGloop cisoun: the ones in upstream minetest_game they are either based on yours or are an old one.
20:46 cisoun c55's minetest_game ?
20:46 cisoun not very old but some of them aren't mine.
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20:47 NekoGloop i think the brick block is yours though.
20:47 cisoun gaddamn yes, and it comes from minetest 0.3...
20:47 cisoun I hate this one.
20:48 NekoGloop i like it
20:48 cisoun Really ?
20:48 cisoun Much more than the new one ?
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20:48 NekoGloop but anyway, revamped with lower saturation and more sharpness
20:48 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzcxdQ
20:49 NekoGloop cisoun, FreeFull ^
20:52 FreeFull What does it look like during daytime?
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20:53 NekoGloop one sec
20:54 NekoGloop FreeFull: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxeg
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20:57 Xhanyr Hi
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20:58 FreeFull NekoGloop: Very bricky
20:58 NekoGloop this is a good thing, yes? :3
20:58 RealBadAngel rebooted and back
20:59 RealBadAngel meanwhile changed the texture a bit and commited it
20:59 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxeg
20:59 celeron55 a bit more saturated could still work though; that is kind of dull already
21:02 RealBadAngel hold on
21:02 RealBadAngel uploading screenshot
21:03 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/bricks.png
21:03 RealBadAngel it looks like a brick wall
21:03 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: now try using stairsplus stuff and do corners etc.
21:03 NekoGloop looks like crap then
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21:04 RealBadAngel geometry hasnt changed
21:04 NekoGloop just try it
21:04 RealBadAngel brick frames are exact size of original brick texture
21:04 ruskie mmm I like that brick texture
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21:04 RealBadAngel were copied from default
21:05 RealBadAngel i just applied brick texture to bacground
21:05 ruskie though maybe a tad bit more red would work
21:05 RealBadAngel and made it smoother
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21:05 NekoGloop ruskie: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxeg
21:05 ruskie that's to red imo
21:06 RealBadAngel celeron55, you would like it to be more contrast?
21:06 celeron55 mix those two equally together and see how it looks 8)
21:06 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: stainless steel should be steel + silver
21:07 ruskie NekoGloop, why? silver isn't part of the real world mix
21:07 ruskie chromium is
21:07 NekoGloop silver is real-world
21:07 RealBadAngel celeron55, i will raise a contrast, but not too much
21:07 Jordach there, my house complete with electric furnaces, etc
21:07 ruskie NekoGloop, I'm talking about the real world mix for stainless steel
21:07 Jordach night all
21:07 RealBadAngel i dont want to loose that warm, soft feelin of it
21:08 ruskie NekoGloop, it's steel+chromium
21:08 NekoGloop ruskie: more people will think of steel+siler
21:08 NekoGloop silver
21:08 ruskie really?
21:08 NekoGloop you know I'm right, yet refuse to accept so
21:08 NekoGloop most people dont even know what chromium -is-.
21:08 ruskie my first idea for stainless steel was chromium
21:09 ruskie NekoGloop, then they should probably pay a bit more attention at chemistry and physics
21:09 NekoGloop should we target a specific range of players with science and chemistry?
21:09 ruskie we learned this in secondary school around here
21:09 NekoGloop most -children-, playing minetest, having fun, will not know what the fuck chromium is.
21:10 ruskie then it's a great way for them to learn
21:11 NekoGloop we should get 3 lumps per clay block.
21:11 NekoGloop and crafting to reflect such.
21:12 NekoGloop because 3 goes evenly into 99, like 4 goes into 64
21:13 ruskie considering most things produce 4
21:13 RealBadAngel celeron55: adjusted it a bit: http://realbadangel.pl/brickwall1.png
21:13 ruskie not bad
21:14 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: i like how you hide the edges of the blocks from view to hide the bad parts of your textures.
21:14 ruskie the edges are right there in the middle of the pic
21:15 RealBadAngel i wanted to show how it look from front and up
21:15 NekoGloop not that.
21:15 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: show me the edges of the nodes.
21:15 RealBadAngel They are precisely the same as original bricks
21:16 NekoGloop like i did here: http://ompldr.org/vZzcxeg
21:16 NekoGloop not the edge of the texture, the edge of the node
21:16 VanessaE they're 10000x better than the default bricks, that's for sure
21:17 RealBadAngel your brick NekoGloop are not bricks, its a special kind of them
21:17 RealBadAngel in polish we call it Klinkier
21:17 NekoGloop you're retarded.
21:17 NekoGloop I mean the POV at the nodes
21:17 RealBadAngel shiny, very expensive ones
21:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: look at the bricks from a 45 degree angle, like i am
21:18 RealBadAngel bricks are made of clay, klinkier has a special cover to make it shine and reflect light
21:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: mine arent shiny.
21:19 ruskie RealBadAngel, glaze like ceramics I would assume
21:19 NekoGloop they're duller than yours, i can tell you that.
21:20 RealBadAngel http://pavlos.pl/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2.png
21:20 RealBadAngel different kinds of klinkier
21:20 RealBadAngel coated bricks
21:20 NekoGloop Mine arent shiny in the slightest
21:21 RealBadAngel bright, full colour
21:21 RealBadAngel klinkier just
21:21 ruskie yeah ceramic glaze
21:21 RealBadAngel not the common bricks
21:21 NekoGloop Again, may i play the card of "Most people link red with bricks"
21:21 RealBadAngel RED??
21:22 RealBadAngel who the fuck on eaerh saw red bricks???
21:22 NekoGloop red-brown
21:22 RealBadAngel its not the natural color of a brick
21:22 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I have. On my school building.
21:22 ruskie I generally associated an orange-led colour to them
21:22 ruskie erm orange-red even
21:23 RealBadAngel not not red just
21:23 ruskie and each time I drill into some of them I get that reinforced
21:23 RealBadAngel neko, one advice google for brick images
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21:24 RealBadAngel maybe your school is just painted red :P
21:24 NekoGloop https://www.google.com/search?num=10&amp;hl=en&amp;site=imghp&amp;tbm=isch&amp;source=hp&amp;biw=1360&amp;bih=677&amp;q=brick&amp;oq=brick&amp;gs_l=img.3..0l10.874.1527.0.2518.5.4.0.1.1.0.161.322.2j2.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.8Lyjr97vU7I
21:24 NekoGloop I see lots of red.
21:24 ruskie I see orange red
21:24 NekoGloop I see the shade of red that my bricks are. :P
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21:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: tinyurl
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21:25 VanessaE gevalt!
21:25 RealBadAngel shit
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21:25 RealBadAngel sorry
21:25 NekoGloop or better yet, try uploading images to a valid upload site
21:25 RealBadAngel just copy pasted the link :)
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21:25 VanessaE RealBadAngel: sorry, mime-encoded imagery does not work well in IRC :-)
21:26 RealBadAngel http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/public/assets/press/2011/10/1319114027_northcot-brick---cotswold-blend.jpg
21:26 RealBadAngel thats a nice brick wall
21:26 NekoGloop again, if you want realism use a realistic texture pack.
21:27 RealBadAngel since when 16x texture is realistic one?
21:27 NekoGloop since i started texturing.
21:27 RealBadAngel go further
21:27 RealBadAngel make 1x realistic one
21:27 RealBadAngel that could be real hardcore
21:27 NekoGloop the above person is only slightly insane
21:28 RealBadAngel cmon you do have at least 65k of colors for each and only pixel
21:28 RealBadAngel its more than enough to be realistic
21:29 NekoGloop 1.6 mil
21:29 RealBadAngel see?
21:29 RealBadAngel you can texture milions even with single pixel
21:29 NekoGloop now to texture stone bricks..
21:30 RealBadAngel i suggest red one
21:30 * NekoGloop is thinking of just monochroming the brick texture
21:30 VanessaE ew.
21:30 RealBadAngel #ff0000
21:30 VanessaE no.  just, no.
21:30 RealBadAngel will be just fine
21:30 NekoGloop VanessaE: hm?
21:30 RealBadAngel brick from the 1st sight
21:30 VanessaE [11-08 16:30] * NekoGloop is thinking of just monochroming the brick texture <-- no.
21:30 NekoGloop why no?
21:31 VanessaE beee...cause brick isn't supposed to be grey?
21:31 RealBadAngel using only red is already monochromatic
21:31 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: I dont use just red
21:31 NekoGloop i use different shades of red and brown
21:32 RealBadAngel that what you propably had in mind was desaturation
21:32 NekoGloop VanessaE: stone brick texture.
21:32 ruskie I would assume the colour might rely also on the contents of the clay and any additives added to it
21:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: won't work.  stone bricks need something that looks like stone first, and clay brick ain't it.
21:32 VanessaE people focus too much on color and shape, but tend to leave out style.
21:32 NekoGloop can always manually edit
21:39 NekoGloop stone brick: http://ompldr.org/vZzczbg
21:40 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^
21:40 VanessaE um...
21:40 VanessaE ew?
21:40 NekoGloop looks better than what we have.
21:41 NekoGloop would you prefer me to do what i did with marble bricks?
21:41 VanessaE which was?
21:41 NekoGloop shrink the marble texture and then tile it
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21:42 VanessaE I dunno
21:42 VanessaE in this case, the contrast between mortar and the bricks is too stark
21:42 VanessaE those dark brick edges don't work
21:43 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZzczcQ
21:43 VanessaE too muted.
21:46 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzczcw
21:47 NekoGloop VanessaE: ^
21:47 VanessaE looking better
21:47 VanessaE the mortar is too bright though
21:48 cisoun and the stone a bit too dark
21:48 NekoGloop VanessaE: what happens when i fuck with too many settings.
21:48 NekoGloop cisoun: it matches the stone in the texture pack
21:48 NekoGloop VanessaE: forgot the link. :l http://ompldr.org/vZzczdg
21:48 VanessaE oh my
21:49 NekoGloop that happens when i fuck with too many settings.
21:49 VanessaE graphics FAIL :-)
21:49 cisoun NekoGloop: ok so as VanessaE said, the mortar is maybe too bright
21:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: cisoun: http://ompldr.org/vZzczeQ
21:50 cisoun much better
21:50 VanessaE not neough contrast nopw
21:50 VanessaE -p
21:51 cisoun I would even say less contrast would be better.
21:52 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzc0MA
21:52 VanessaE NekoGloop: too sharp
21:52 VanessaE otherwise that's about right
21:53 NekoGloop I like it like this.
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22:09 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1047/screenshot30876595.png
22:09 VanessaE looks like a prison wall :-[)
22:09 VanessaE :-)
22:10 VanessaE now all you need is some razor wire
22:10 NekoGloop well those are stone bricks, yes? :3
22:10 VanessaE stone brick = cinder block?  okay.
22:10 NekoGloop meh
22:10 NekoGloop old style prison :3
22:10 VanessaE heh
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22:23 NekoGloop Meow~!
22:27 VanessaE bbl
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22:50 bulletrulz hello
22:50 OdnetninI hi
22:51 bulletrulz how are you doing?
22:51 OdnetninI how?
22:52 OdnetninI ?_?
22:52 bulletrulz Good Bad And Mijyn LOL NOOOO!
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22:55 bulletrulz 9_9
22:55 bulletrulz IOI
22:55 celeron55 \__¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯\__/
22:56 celeron55 it's a snake!
22:57 bulletrulz 8=========D its a well you know xD
22:58 bulletrulz 8===========================================================================D
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22:59 bulletrulz thats mine ^
22:59 * bulletrulz is being a troll
22:59 * bulletrulz trololololololol
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23:14 Uberi|AoS hey NekoGloop
23:16 NekoGloop dare i ask about your nick?
23:17 Uberi|AoS moi?
23:17 NekoGloop yes.
23:18 Uberi|AoS Ace of Spades  = AoS :)
23:18 NekoGloop ah.
23:18 NekoGloop why not the Ace of Hearts?
23:19 Uberi|AoS it's an FPS voxel game, really fun
23:19 NekoGloop i know.
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23:24 Octupus Hi
23:24 Octupus Is any1 around
23:25 Uberi|AoS hi Octupus
23:25 Octupus Hi
23:25 Octupus Uberi can u help me port forward?
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23:26 Octupus What port to forward for minetest?
23:26 Uberi|AoS I'll try
23:26 Octupus thanks :)
23:28 Octupus i dont know whether TCP or UDP
23:29 Uberi|AoS Octupus: remote port forward everything on port 30000
23:29 Octupus ok i got that
23:29 Octupus i not sure about tcp or udp
23:30 Octupus kind of hard
23:30 Uberi|AoS both
23:30 Uberi|AoS technically, UDP
23:30 Octupus o
23:30 babyface1031_ hi Octupus
23:30 Uberi|AoS but IIRC I saw a TCP branch somewhere
23:31 Octupus hi babyface1031_
23:31 Octupus im looking for my ip
23:32 Octupus if u see a octupu on irc that is me
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23:32 Octupus Hello Every1
23:32 NekoGloop Meow.
23:32 NekoGloop Octupus: you do know /whois works on yourself, right?
23:33 Octupus Oh yea :P
23:33 Octupus what shud happen when i finish port forwarding
23:34 MiJyn hi Octupus
23:34 Uberi|AoS you can connect to your host remotely, Octupus
23:34 MiJyn hi everyone else
23:34 MiJyn hi world
23:34 MiJyn whatever
23:34 MiJyn something
23:34 Octupus where can i find a lan ip address
23:35 Uberi|AoS Octupus: try whatismyip.com
23:35 Octupus i just did
23:35 Octupus it said it had to be a lan ip
23:36 MiJyn IP: 199.201.84.23. Personal name: Unknown. Other information: Plays minetest, Plays minecraft
23:36 MiJyn there :)
23:37 Octupus is that mine?
23:38 MiJyn yep :D
23:38 MiJyn (/whois, the rest was just random information for the heck of it :P)
23:38 Octupus i just put that shit in it said Server IP address cannot be router's LAN IP address.
23:38 Octupus
23:40 Octupus MiJyn,^^
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23:40 MiJyn Octupus, well, when I /whois Octupus, it showed 199.201,84,23
23:41 MiJyn no idea why it didn't work for you
23:41 Octupus idk whats going on
23:41 Octupus can simple portforwarding work for minetest?
23:43 Octupus i wish to make a port for minecraft also :)
23:44 MiJyn hamachi?
23:44 MiJyn remobo?
23:45 MiJyn 5.60.682.1
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