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00:00 NekoGloop topaz is more known as an orange-yellow color
00:00 RealBadAngel well, there are differnt kinds
00:00 NekoGloop like this: http://www.agta.org/gemstones/images/topaz.jpg
00:00 RealBadAngel nice indeed
00:00 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: going off the most commonly known color.
00:01 NekoGloop There are orange sapphires :3
00:03 RealBadAngel pick some colors for each one to make them disticnt
00:04 NekoGloop I know
00:04 NekoGloop Ruby = Red, Sapphire = Blue, Emerald = Green, Amethyst = Purple, Topaz = Orange
00:06 NekoGloop Also with the new gems-weapon-encrusting-thing
00:06 NekoGloop Textures need not be done one-by-one
00:06 NekoGloop You simply create an overlay for pickaxe, sword, axe, and shovel
00:09 RealBadAngel i could make energy crystals out of them
00:09 RealBadAngel instead of dying the diamond blocks
00:09 NekoGloop Battery surrounded by the respective gem?
00:09 NekoGloop sounds good to me
00:09 RealBadAngel way better idea than dyes
00:09 NekoGloop yep
00:10 NekoGloop since dye system sux :3
00:10 NekoGloop btw: naming system of said overlays is like so: gems_<tool>_<gem>
00:11 NekoGloop Steel, Silver, and Mithril are encrustable, like in the normal gems mod
00:11 NekoGloop er.
00:11 NekoGloop s/silver/gold
00:11 NekoGloop Would you like me to add silver and bronze?
00:12 RealBadAngel if you wish
00:13 NekoGloop hm...
00:13 NekoGloop config option for each one?
00:13 NekoGloop including gloopores?
00:14 NekoGloop obviously wood and stone would be excluded; encrusting nonmetals is no.
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00:18 NekoGloop I keep thinking it's spelled "amythst"
00:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: how should each gem affect the encrusted tool?
00:25 RealBadAngel have no idea really
00:25 NekoGloop ha.
00:25 NekoGloop Well, each one alters the durability and speed.
00:26 NekoGloop For better or worse.
00:26 RealBadAngel think of adding something like luck
00:26 RealBadAngel or silk touch
00:26 NekoGloop hm...
00:27 NekoGloop not possible for silk touch.
00:27 NekoGloop s/not/very/
00:27 NekoGloop dafuq did my fingers type.
00:27 RealBadAngel why not possible?
00:27 NekoGloop > s/not/very/
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00:28 RealBadAngel about luck: you could line them up from worst to the best one
00:29 RealBadAngel give each one higher % level
00:29 NekoGloop hm...
00:29 NekoGloop on_dignode
00:29 RealBadAngel and with given propability double the mining output
00:29 NekoGloop incompatible with item_drop
00:29 NekoGloop etc.
00:29 RealBadAngel i think it could be done
00:30 RealBadAngel just overwrite node_dig
00:30 RealBadAngel copy the main routine, re register it with changes
00:30 NekoGloop you do the magic. my code is too shitty.
00:30 RealBadAngel hold on a sec
00:31 Dogzilla131 hey what does uranium do
00:31 NekoGloop Dogzilla131: nothing ATM
00:32 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest#L273
00:33 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: dude
00:33 NekoGloop specify a -file- when you link to a line in github.
00:33 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, it does somethin, jordach made reactor out of coal generator :)
00:33 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: only burns up the uranium
00:33 NekoGloop doesnt produce power.
00:33 RealBadAngel it does, its just not registered
00:34 NekoGloop did you update my awesomesauce API function?
00:34 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/item.lua
00:34 RealBadAngel line 273
00:34 NekoGloop RealBadAngel:
00:34 RealBadAngel theres node_dig
00:34 NekoGloop https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/item.lua#L273
00:35 RealBadAngel my browser is just stupid
00:35 NekoGloop That is how one links to a line in a github area.
00:35 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Obviously, it's not a windows program.
00:35 RealBadAngel i just said iceweasel is worth shit
00:35 RealBadAngel nvm
00:36 RealBadAngel look for check of wielded item
00:36 RealBadAngel add your checks for ecrusted tools here
00:36 NekoGloop nope.
00:36 NekoGloop < doesnt like overriding builtin functions.
00:36 RealBadAngel and you can have luck and silk touch too
00:37 RealBadAngel code is not about likeing. it has to work
00:38 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;v=pA5PGVMHhQI&amp;NR=1 tetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetoteto
00:38 RealBadAngel if you do your code here, all stuff like item_drop will work with it
00:38 NekoGloop < knows something will not work
00:39 RealBadAngel you have to take care of this:
00:39 RealBadAngel local wielded = digger:get_wielded_item()
00:39 RealBadAngel local drops = minetest.get_node_drops(node.name, wielded:get_name())
00:39 NekoGloop nope.
00:40 RealBadAngel if wielded == encrusted then call your own node_drops
00:40 NekoGloop no.
00:40 RealBadAngel if you are scared.....
00:40 RealBadAngel chicken :P
00:40 NekoGloop not scared.
00:40 NekoGloop i am just certain it will be "shit"
00:41 RealBadAngel nah, just chicken
00:42 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:42 NekoGloop Names correspond to the figures below
00:42 steampunkey joined #minetest
00:42 NekoGloop lower speed multiplier == better
00:42 NekoGloop higher wear multiplier == better
00:42 steampunkey can't connect anywhere...
00:42 steampunkey lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:43 NekoGloop steampunkey: ?
00:43 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:43 NekoGloop dont comment on something if you do not know what is being discussed ^^"
00:43 steampunkey NekoGloop: it just hangs at connecting to srv
00:43 NekoGloop steampunkey: i dont give a fuck.
00:44 NekoGloop no, not really.
00:44 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:44 Lumpio- Now now, let's be polite
00:44 steampunkey NekoGloop: ditto for your rules
00:44 NekoGloop Lumpio-: that's rich coming from you.
00:44 steampunkey vote to kick NekoGloop
00:44 OldCoder Hmm
00:44 OldCoder I promised to finish some network code elsewhere
00:45 OldCoder Could this wait half an hour?
00:45 Lumpio- I'm always completely serious and polite.
00:45 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/J3RYpcN8
00:45 NekoGloop steampunkey: pls go, griefer.
00:45 OldCoder Yin and Yang
00:45 OldCoder Together again
00:45 OldCoder Sorry
00:45 OldCoder That was too flip
00:45 NekoGloop I can tell from his attitude he is a griefer.
00:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: no.
00:45 OldCoder Wait until there is a reason
00:45 OldCoder That is orderly
00:45 steampunkey NekoGloop: you can tell crap
00:45 NekoGloop steampunkey: I can tell you know me.
00:46 steampunkey fail again
00:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, he gets angry because you're exercising control
00:46 NekoGloop I'm not.
00:46 steampunkey but I know you are somebody stupid
00:46 OldCoder You called him a griefer
00:46 OldCoder ATM what is the need?
00:46 NekoGloop I can tell from the fact he thought i was talking to him regardless of the fact he just logged on
00:46 OldCoder Yes
00:47 NekoGloop griefers -always- think the world is revolving around them.
00:47 OldCoder But nothing is happening ATM. Is it crucial that you assert yourself? Or that he does?
00:47 steampunkey NekoGloop: i have mistaken you tagging me and saying "?" for interest. perhaps my immediate thought should've been a million monkeys and a million typewriters?
00:47 NekoGloop It is crucial that he learn that other people use IRC
00:48 NekoGloop and not just for talking to him.
00:48 OldCoder All right
00:48 OldCoder Where do you go with that?
00:48 steampunkey <NekoGloop> steampunkey: ?
00:48 NekoGloop <steampunkey> lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:49 OldCoder O.K.
00:49 NekoGloop I was wondering what the hell you meant.
00:49 steampunkey NekoGloop: dude just gtfo
00:49 NekoGloop general rule of IRC: if you havent said anything yet, they arent talking to you.
00:49 steampunkey <NekoGloop> steampunkey: i dont give a fuck.
00:50 NekoGloop steampunkey: I would be rich if i had a dime for every time i read those four letters out of this IRC channel.
00:50 steampunkey NekoGloop: General rule of any conversation: People may or may not join and/or leave the conversation
00:50 steampunkey NekoGloop: perhaps you should take a hint?
00:50 * Lumpio- gloops NekoGloop
00:50 NekoGloop steampunkey: if they know what is being talked about and can possibly understand what is being discussed?
00:51 NekoGloop Lumpio-: fuck off.
00:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are in fact orderly tonight. But is there more to say?
00:51 steampunkey NekoGloop: not necessarily
00:51 Lumpio- (ノ´∀`*)
00:51 NekoGloop steampunkey: the one needing to be kicked is you
00:51 steampunkey NekoGloop: cussed twice to two people since i joined
00:51 steampunkey OldCoder:
00:52 OldCoder Yes
00:52 OldCoder No kicks are needed yet
00:52 NekoGloop there was an intelligent conversation before you joined
00:52 OldCoder And I'll probably go with mute
00:52 steampunkey NekoGloop: why, because i resent people cussing for no apparent reason?
00:52 OldCoder NekoGloop, why is this discussion taking place?
00:52 OldCoder That is a fair question
00:52 NekoGloop steampunkey: there was an intelligent conversation before you joined.
00:53 NekoGloop OldCoder: [19:43] == steampunkey [4e868e03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.134.142.3] has joined #minetest [19:43] <NekoGloop> lower speed multiplier == better [19:43] <NekoGloop> higher wear multiplier == better [19:43] <steampunkey> can't connect anywhere... [19:43] <steampunkey> lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:53 NekoGloop this ^
00:53 OldCoder Reading
00:53 steampunkey NekoGloop: that's how == operator works
00:53 OldCoder All right
00:53 steampunkey it's a joke
00:53 NekoGloop not adding anything important to the conversation.
00:53 steampunkey now re-read your reaction
00:53 OldCoder But also
00:53 OldCoder Overreacting
00:53 OldCoder Medium is best
00:53 OldCoder On both sides
00:53 OldCoder It is not
00:53 OldCoder surrendering Order
00:53 steampunkey o.O
00:53 NekoGloop I can see that this channel -still- is not accepting me as a welcome prescence.
00:54 NekoGloop steampunkey: he types with lines a lot.
00:54 steampunkey NekoGloop: try not telling people you've just met off, for starters
00:54 NekoGloop steampunkey: I dont.
00:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, you are more than accepted
00:54 NekoGloop I tell people who interrupt intelligent conversation off :3
00:54 OldCoder NekoGloop, You are interesting and intelligent
00:55 OldCoder NekoGloop, that may be wrong
00:55 steampunkey NekoGloop: then I diagnosed your problem, it's delusion
00:55 NekoGloop people with delusions are generally good coders :3
00:55 steampunkey NekoGloop: you really ought to take a course in propositional logic. You wouldn't make the == mistake, nor would you assert a false dichotomy between interrupters and people you've just met
00:55 NekoGloop Or at least good people to go to for ideas :3
00:56 NekoGloop steampunkey: what mistake.
00:56 NekoGloop I know what the operator means.
00:56 steampunkey The one you didn't understand
00:56 NekoGloop I've done enough LUA coding.
00:56 NekoGloop I think i know what == means.
00:56 NekoGloop And its difference from =
00:57 steampunkey A=B & B=C => A=C
00:57 NekoGloop A is set to B and B is set to C greater than or equal to A is set to C
00:57 NekoGloop Code is invalid.
00:58 steampunkey it's transitivity
00:58 steampunkey as i've said, take a course in logic
00:58 OldCoder Actually you both seem logical
00:59 OldCoder Just with different assumptions
00:59 steampunkey NekoGloop: https://www.coursera.org/course/intrologic
00:59 OldCoder Yeah, that's going to calm him down :p
00:59 steampunkey Good OldCoder trying desperately to diffuse the situation ;-)
00:59 OldCoder Desperate?
00:59 OldCoder I am focused elsewhere
00:59 NekoGloop what is the point of me doing a course in something below me?
00:59 OldCoder And this one is interesting
01:00 OldCoder You two aren't that far apart ATM
01:00 steampunkey Oh now I understand, I was looking for #minetest, not #nojokes
01:00 steampunkey hi
01:00 NekoGloop steampunkey: yeah, gtfo.
01:00 steampunkey can't connect anywhere...
01:01 NekoGloop steampunkey: try using a valid username.
01:01 NekoGloop try getting a better internet connection.
01:01 OldCoder ?
01:01 NekoGloop try actually giving us information that may help us debug.
01:01 OldCoder Is there a dispute here?
01:01 NekoGloop OldCoder: no.
01:01 OldCoder All right
01:01 OldCoder Never mind, then
01:02 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: better?
01:02 NekoGloop ... what?
01:02 NekoGloop as if we need a third neko? ;)
01:03 NekoPametahn anyway, why can't i connect? :-/
01:03 NekoPametahn c55.me, 30000 - no go
01:03 NekoGloop that server is down
01:03 NekoPametahn tsundere.fi?
01:04 NekoGloop tsundere lol
01:04 NekoPametahn ?
01:04 NekoGloop oh that's a server?
01:04 NekoGloop XD
01:05 NekoGloop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere XD
01:05 OldCoder What about my servers?
01:05 OldCoder NekoPametahn, try OpenMine
01:05 OldCoder Server minetest.org
01:05 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: minetest.org:30007
01:05 NekoGloop I think
01:05 OldCoder Yes
01:05 OldCoder Try it
01:05 OldCoder PilzAdam world is now open too
01:05 NekoPametahn OldCoder: cannot connect
01:05 OldCoder Checking and excuse me
01:06 OldCoder Looks O.K.
01:06 OldCoder Trying myself
01:06 NekoPametahn OldCoder: minetest.org works, just not tsundere? Also, why aren't you Kray?
01:06 xy joined #minetest
01:06 OldCoder I don't understand
01:06 NekoGloop who's Kray?
01:06 NekoPametahn I thought you said tsundere.fi was yours
01:06 NekoPametahn tsundere.fi == kray.dy.fi
01:06 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: he was proposing you try his servers.
01:07 NekoGloop not claiming the server.
01:07 NekoPametahn OldCoder: unsupported nodebox version
01:07 NekoPametahn got one without addons?
01:07 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: latest git?
01:08 NekoPametahn latest tar
01:08 NekoGloop latest git is backwards-incompatible.
01:08 NekoGloop latest tar? you mean github's tarball?
01:08 NekoPametahn darnit again?
01:08 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: i think so
01:08 NekoGloop yeah, OldCoder has a build.
01:08 NekoGloop Windows?
01:08 NekoGloop Or Debian?
01:09 NekoPametahn yeah this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tarball/master
01:09 NekoGloop What OS do you use?
01:09 OldCoder I will rebuild tonight
01:09 OldCoder If the discussion here doesn't get out of hand and use up the time
01:09 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: how did you guess my distro?
01:09 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: lucky guess.
01:10 OldCoder Debian is pretty common for MT
01:10 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: it's not from the packages though
01:10 NekoGloop luckier for you because OC has a build for it.
01:10 NekoPametahn OldCoder: oh? how come?
01:10 OldCoder Hmm?
01:10 NekoPametahn how come it's common?
01:10 * OldCoder thinks
01:11 OldCoder I don't know why Debian is popular. But I've noticed that it and related distros seem to be the focus here.
01:11 OldCoder Debian and Ubuntu mainly
01:11 OldCoder But I could be wrong
01:11 OldCoder We've had others, certainly
01:11 NekoGloop I wonder, were there any other big-time griefers like LM before him?
01:11 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: what did you base your guess on?
01:11 NekoGloop Maybe not to his extent but somewhat similar?
01:11 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: nothing
01:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, does it matter ATM?
01:11 NekoPametahn is LM LandMine?
01:11 NekoGloop was asking because OC has a MT build.
01:12 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: yes.
01:12 NekoGloop OldCoder: curious.
01:12 NekoPametahn he used to behave on tsundere most of the time
01:12 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: now he shuts down servers as a hobby.
01:12 NekoPametahn drove out a heavy builder though. built himself a castle right on the path built by the guy. guy couldn't get over it
01:13 OldCoder Curious about what?
01:13 OldCoder Wait
01:13 NekoGloop OldCoder: just curious.
01:14 OldCoder Did something happen on tsundere that was signficant?
01:14 NekoGloop was there a griefer before LandMine?
01:14 OldCoder Or if not, at around that time
01:14 OldCoder I wasn't here so I couldn't say
01:14 RealBadAngel jeez, looks like i got github with GUI workin here at last
01:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, you looked at that page?
01:14 RealBadAngel yup, picked one
01:14 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: what, reinstalled windows? :3
01:14 * VanessaE peeks in
01:14 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi!
01:14 RealBadAngel Hi VanessaE
01:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: embrace the grand mighty chaos! :D
01:14 VanessaE hi all.
01:14 NekoPametahn whois NekoGloop
01:15 NekoGloop whois fail ^
01:15 RealBadAngel lol
01:15 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, got linux client for it
01:15 NekoGloop :3
01:16 NekoPametahn msg NickServ identify 1Nb49100P
01:16 VanessaE that password looks like a type of diode or something. "=_
01:16 VanessaE :-)
01:16 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: having problems with your / key?
01:16 RealBadAngel rotfl
01:17 NekoPametahn VanessaE: wouldn't know. my electronics is titanic rusty
01:17 NekoGloop how do you remember something like that.
01:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: topaz looks like a c-sectioned orange XD
01:18 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: afai'm concerned, practice. Repetito est mater studiorum. Everything else evaporates.
01:19 NekoPametahn OldCoder: so you have any other srvs or what?
01:19 OldCoder NekoPametahn, they are listed at:
01:19 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
01:20 NekoPametahn why are there 3 MT servers lists? unify
01:20 OldCoder There are not three lists
01:20 OldCoder There is just one
01:20 OldCoder The other lists are for mods
01:20 NekoGloop there is xyz's
01:20 OldCoder They are modset descriptions
01:20 NekoGloop OldCoder: he means in total.
01:21 OldCoder I don't follow
01:21 OldCoder There is only one server list
01:21 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: these are specifically -his- servers.
01:21 NekoGloop OldCoder: and xyz's?
01:21 OldCoder No
01:21 OldCoder Just me
01:21 NekoGloop OldCoder: servers.minetest.ri
01:21 NekoGloop ru
01:21 NekoGloop what do you call thaT?
01:21 NekoGloop http://servers.minetest.ru
01:22 NekoPametahn OldCoder: you run 13 srvs!? You have way too much CPU cycles on your hands.
01:22 NekoGloop So much for LM's claim to the highest uptime on the servers list :3
01:23 NekoPametahn can't connect to the first one on your list, NekoGloop
01:23 NekoGloop me?
01:23 NekoGloop not my list :P
01:23 NekoPametahn my bad, wrong port
01:23 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: try using a different build
01:24 NekoPametahn "unsupported NodeBox version" again
01:24 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: http://minetest.org/clients/ocminetest-debian-20121020.deb
01:24 OldCoder
01:24 NekoPametahn i compiled already :-/
01:24 OldCoder NekoPametahn, they are largely inactive
01:24 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: and that client is incompatible with old servers.
01:24 OldCoder The NodeBox issue is known
01:25 NekoPametahn OldCoder: what is it?
01:25 OldCoder It will go away
01:25 OldCoder It is what NekoGloop said
01:25 OldCoder If you build with new sources
01:25 OldCoder It won't work with older servers
01:25 OldCoder I can give you sources that should work
01:25 RealBadAngel it just looked like i have git GUI
01:25 NekoPametahn OldCoder: isn't anyone running edge?
01:25 OldCoder I will be soon
01:25 OldCoder Maybe tonight
01:25 RealBadAngel it connects, etc but i cant see any files
01:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ?
01:26 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: same problem here
01:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, try one of the others
01:26 NekoGloop github is a piece of shit.
01:26 NekoPametahn OldCoder: I'm not running your binaries, tywm
01:26 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: compared to?
01:26 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: omploader.
01:26 OldCoder tywm?
01:26 RealBadAngel shit it took me half an hour to get newer Java, generate SSH keys etc to got this working
01:26 OldCoder NekoPametahn, I am referring to source code
01:27 NekoPametahn OldCoder: s/w/v/
01:27 OldCoder I don't follow
01:27 OldCoder If you wish source code compatible with the servers out there
01:27 OldCoder I can provide that
01:27 NekoPametahn RealBadAngel: Java?
01:28 RealBadAngel yes, SmartGit is written using Java
01:28 NekoPametahn OldCoder: why are celeron's incompatible?
01:28 RealBadAngel so had to install Java 7
01:29 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: you're missing the point of using versioning controll. But then, so am I.
01:29 RealBadAngel tried two github interfaces and both are not working
01:29 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: there is no point
01:29 RealBadAngel tried SmartGit and gitg
01:29 NekoGloop no imi :3 (no meaning in japanese)
01:29 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: why?
01:30 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: because "git commit git pull git push" is retardly monotonous.
01:30 OldCoder NekoPametahn, the new ones have changed formats
01:30 OldCoder NekoPametahn, it is not a problem
01:30 OldCoder NekoPametahn, the servers and clients will catch up
01:30 NekoGloop Now I'm confused :/
01:31 NekoGloop How am I to be sure there isnt a mis-tab?
01:31 NekoGloop And you are talking to him instead of me, or me instead of him?
01:31 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: 2 distinct discussion threads here. As for ours, what would you like git upload git apply git throw git catch git drop?
01:32 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: i would like git upload
01:32 NekoPametahn OldCoder: but isn't any server running the latest?
01:32 OldCoder NekoPametahn, Nope apparently. But I may fix that
01:32 OldCoder Tonight or tomorrow
01:32 OldCoder All of mine may switch
01:33 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: you may want different commits, eg one for one thing, the other for the other thing (if eg. they're unrelated). that's why there's commit. push is like upload
01:33 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: that and there's no help file?
01:33 NekoGloop so how the hell am i to know what to do?
01:33 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: tbh, i have no idea how to use help, i use man
01:34 NekoGloop ?
01:34 NekoPametahn or info
01:34 NekoPametahn if that's not what you meant, I don't know what you did mean
01:34 NekoGloop how am i supposed to know the functions i have to use?
01:35 NekoPametahn i see there's man git, and info git
01:35 NekoGloop CLI is retarded and outdated.
01:35 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: from Git Shell in windows? haha you funny.
01:35 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: Show me a visual programming language, I dare you
01:35 RealBadAngel its 21st century
01:35 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: Game Maker Language.
01:35 NekoGloop :3
01:35 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: You use Windows? Well there's your problem.
01:35 RealBadAngel i dont have to type all the type
01:36 RealBadAngel time
01:36 NekoGloop NekoPametahn: haha you funny
01:36 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: anyway i'm sure you can find man pages online
01:36 RealBadAngel thats why GUI is made for
01:36 NekoGloop Linux doesnt even load, you expect me to use such pieces of crap?
01:36 NekoPametahn NekoGloop: do you even lift?
01:36 NekoGloop lift?
01:37 NekoPametahn nvm. you said something that doesn't make sense, so i did too
01:37 NekoGloop What did i say that didnt make sense?
01:37 Pavee (easer for other people)
01:37 Pavee NekoGloop: it doesn't load? What?
01:37 NekoGloop Yep.
01:37 Pavee -_-
01:38 Pavee "yep"
01:38 NekoGloop Such pieces of crap like Linux dont work.
01:38 Pavee lol
01:38 Pavee dude servers run on Linux+GNU
01:38 NekoGloop Something like... opensource == people know how to hack it easier?
01:38 Pavee US stock market does
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01:38 M13 hello
01:38 NekoGloop herro M13
01:38 Pavee Android phones
01:38 NekoGloop Pavee: those also dont work for me.
01:39 NekoGloop :P
01:39 M13 has anyone made a Minetest-Edu??
01:39 NekoGloop M13: >?
01:39 NekoGloop ?
01:39 Pavee NekoGloop: you're also connecting from webchat, i bet it uses Linux+GNU
01:39 Pavee Google does too
01:39 Pavee etc
01:39 NekoGloop Pavee: would explain why it's crap
01:39 NekoGloop same with google.
01:39 Pavee Sure
01:40 NekoGloop You arent proving any points i didnt know =)
01:40 Pavee ¬.¬
01:40 NekoGloop Pavee: did you know webchat lacks an /ignore?
01:40 Pavee meh, off to play #teeworlds then
01:40 M13 umm... Minetest_edu a Minetest for schools :P
01:40 NekoGloop M13: explain
01:40 NekoGloop how would it be different? :P
01:41 M13 Well my Schoiol teacher (For technology) was going to make a server for Minecraft-Edu (minecraft for Schools) but I asked if I could Make A minetest-edu for the school and he said yes!
01:41 OldCoder That is good
01:42 M13 so I made a MInetest=Edu
01:42 NekoGloop how is minecraft-edu different from minecraft?
01:42 M13 And My teacher said I could Host a Server for the school]
01:42 M13 well idk
01:43 M13 butt... Minetest-Edu has no pvp or swords (No violence)
01:43 M13 and
01:43 NekoGloop I see.
01:44 M13 I added Farming and dyes (For Science) and stuff like that (School stuff):P
01:44 RealBadAngel well i guess mobs are renamed, to be teachers like
01:44 M13 I took mobs out too
01:44 M13 check it out : http://youngcoder.weebly.com
01:45 M13 my site ^
01:45 M13 itys on there
01:45 M13 source and all
01:47 NekoGloop someone care to test my gems version? http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bA
01:47 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ^
01:48 M13 going cyahall later :P
01:48 NekoGloop oh look an error :P
01:48 NekoGloop THIS one: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg
01:48 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ^
01:49 NekoGloop ... FUUUUUUUU
01:49 NekoGloop damn errors.
01:50 NekoGloop how the hell does one make table.insert work?!@
01:51 VanessaE table.insert(tablename, "item to add")
01:51 VanessaE e.g. table.insert(outimgs, "pipeworks_plain.png")
01:51 NekoGloop well obviously that doesnt work.
01:51 VanessaE works fine for me in pipeworks.
01:51 NekoGloop attempt to call global "metalis" (a table value)
01:52 VanessaE (see pipeworks/init.lua in the code block that starts at line 136)
01:52 NekoGloop strangely it errors at this line though: "for i,l in gems do"
01:52 NekoGloop not the ones having anything to do with metalis :P
01:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg fix it Dx
01:53 VanessaE no :-)
01:54 M13 What happened to cornernote???
01:54 VanessaE I have my eyes on something far more important than coding right now.
01:54 VanessaE M13: ask thexyz.
01:54 NekoGloop M13: he asked for it.
01:54 NekoGloop literally.
01:55 NekoGloop Anyone know what the function for porting a table to a string is?
01:55 M13 is there a way I can connect to my VPS inbrowser???
01:55 VanessaE I think it's just dump(tablename) isn't it?
01:55 NekoGloop I'll try
01:55 VanessaE there's some API function to help with that anyway
01:57 NekoGloop ...?
01:57 NekoGloop metalis is not a table value
01:57 NekoGloop it is a string...
01:57 VanessaE well that's a start :)
01:57 NekoGloop then again, why is it even trying to call it?
01:58 M13 is there a way I can connect to my VPS inbrowser???
01:58 M13 please help ^^
01:58 VanessaE M13: probably not.
01:58 VanessaE unless you run a webserver on your VPS
01:58 M13 I mean ssh
01:58 VanessaE just use the command line for that
01:58 VanessaE I'd have to say that a web browser is guaranteed to be less secure
01:59 M13 Im on a xbox :P
01:59 VanessaE ohh
01:59 VanessaE probably not then
01:59 VanessaE ssh is a specific protocol
01:59 M13 dammit !
01:59 VanessaE unless xbox supports it, you're hosed.
01:59 NekoGloop windows 8 on an xbox.
01:59 NekoGloop :3
01:59 M13 nope I saw some inbrowser ssh clients but none work
02:00 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg fix it Dx
02:00 M13 serfish works but the catcha keeps fuicking up
02:00 NekoGloop is that a captcha with images of cats?
02:01 M13 images
02:01 VanessaE M13: I HIGHLY ADVISE that you log in from your regular PC/command line and change your VPS password(s) at your first available opportunity
02:01 M13 Why???
02:01 VanessaE any web server you try to pipe through to get to your VPS can record your keystrokes.\
02:02 VanessaE so unless you have only used one that you know FOR A FACT is safe, you're putting your VPS at risk.
02:02 M13 I didnt egt to the password login
02:02 VanessaE ok
02:02 VanessaE then you're fine.
02:02 NekoGloop attempt to call field "?" (a nil value)
02:02 NekoGloop THE. FUCK.
02:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: you suck. :-)
02:02 M13 nekogloop
02:02 NekoGloop M13: ?
02:02 M13 are you working this from scratch??
02:02 NekoGloop you could say so
02:03 M13 ok so your tring to do what?? I can help
02:03 NekoGloop I am working it from a previous rewrite of the gems code, which was in turn created from scratch.
02:03 OldCoder M13, you can use a ssh client written in JS
02:03 NekoGloop M13: you can access pastebin?
02:03 M13 what OldCodeR??
02:03 OldCoder http://lifehacker.com/5783594/firessh-is-a-browser-based-ssh-client-written-entirely-in-javascript
02:03 M13 yes nekogloop
02:04 M13 brb
02:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, you've had a rough few days. How are you doing?
02:04 NekoGloop OldCoder: this is relevant how?
02:04 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/S7ZvxfLU
02:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, relevant to what?
02:04 NekoGloop OldCoder: the code being stupid.
02:04 OldCoder And I'm too tired for pastebin ATM
02:05 OldCoder It is not relevant to the code
02:05 VanessaE "..I think of something completely different." "like, if you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?"
02:05 NekoGloop VanessaE: blue-er.
02:05 VanessaE purple :)
02:06 NekoGloop haha.
02:06 NekoGloop alatro? :3
02:06 OldCoder I haven't seen Octupus today. If anybody bumps into him, I'd like him to know I appreciated a gift that he sent me. It was a new small MT world.
02:06 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, fix what there?
02:06 OldCoder I may put it up on a server
02:06 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: attempt to call "metalis" (a table value)
02:07 * VanessaE looks at the current US election results and starts to worry
02:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: why?
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02:08 Pavee VanessaE: how are they doing?
02:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: my reasons are offtopic for this channel.
02:08 NekoGloop Each of the candidates is gonna fuck up the country somehow.
02:08 VanessaE Pavee: rMoney is leading right now :(
02:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: when is the channel -on-topic?
02:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: about two minutes ago? :-)
02:08 Pavee i don't know why i asked. either way it's gonna be bad
02:09 NekoGloop when we were actively doing nothing?
02:09 NekoGloop Why dont for-loops error at the line that errors *facepalm*
02:12 NekoGloop this makes no sense.
02:12 NekoGloop the is no errorneous code.
02:15 VanessaE look for the classic missing commas, etc.
02:15 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: made any sense of it yet?
02:15 NekoGloop VanessaE: That isnt relevant to the error though.
02:15 NekoGloop i never type any of the metals entries.
02:15 NekoGloop all of those are handled by table.insert
02:15 VanessaE you'd be surprised what is and is not relevant, neko :-)
02:16 NekoGloop does table.insert forget commas? ;)
02:16 VanessaE Lua has a funny way of deciding what is and is not relevant ;-)
02:16 NekoGloop just look at it.
02:16 NekoGloop there is nothing wrong with it.
02:16 VanessaE pastebin it :-)
02:17 VanessaE I ain't looking at an ompldr link
02:17 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/BwqbkeXg
02:17 NekoGloop current error is at line 140
02:18 NekoGloop attempt to concatenate global "metalis" (a nil value)
02:18 NekoGloop or excuse me, not that.
02:19 NekoGloop at line 150, it says "attempt to call global "metalis" (a table value)"
02:19 VanessaE metals[x] is a one-dimensional array...why are you stepping through it with j,k then?
02:19 VanessaE shouldn't you be doing for j in ipairs(metals) do ...  >
02:19 VanessaE ?
02:19 NekoGloop j = id, k = value
02:20 NekoGloop metals is set up like {1 = "", 2 = ""}
02:20 NekoGloop Dont ask me, but it works.
02:20 VanessaE yeah but you aren't giving them ids :-)
02:20 VanessaE table.insert(metals,"steel")
02:20 VanessaE table.insert(metals,"bronze")
02:20 VanessaE wetc.
02:20 VanessaE etc.
02:20 NekoGloop print(dump(metals))
02:20 NekoGloop returns it in the form i stated.
02:21 VanessaE either I'm overlooking it or you are not putting the values into the table with actual key id's.
02:21 VanessaE you're just putting them in as an unkeyed list
02:21 VanessaE (whatever the correct terminology is)
02:21 NekoGloop alright fine
02:21 NekoGloop removing k from the for
02:21 VanessaE well that'll fail too, because you use k later
02:22 NekoGloop fixing those as well
02:22 VanessaE ok
02:22 RealBadAngel ive already removed k
02:22 RealBadAngel fighting with it
02:22 NekoGloop same error
02:22 NekoGloop the k couldnt have been the problem
02:23 NekoGloop it worked fine before implementation of the table.inserts
02:23 VanessaE ditto for the i,l in gems --- don't you mean for i in ipairs(gems)  ?
02:23 RealBadAngel 03:22:55: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:143: attempt to index global 'pickdef' (a nil value)
02:23 RealBadAngel whats it?
02:23 NekoGloop and then it was simply {"steel", "gold", "mithril"}
02:23 VanessaE 150.  for i,l in gems do  <-- this can't work
02:23 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: pickdef stores the itemdef of the pick
02:23 NekoGloop VanessaE: yet it does
02:23 VanessaE it shouldn't.
02:24 RealBadAngel i got rid of metalis error and k
02:24 NekoGloop or, rather, used to, before I added in the table.insert parts.
02:24 VanessaE gems is still a table whether you use it as one or not :-)
02:24 RealBadAngel now just pickdef error popped up
02:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: mind sharing with the class?
02:24 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: do you have moreores and gloopores installed?
02:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: this is important.
02:26 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/xm7gS2vU
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02:26 RealBadAngel im here right now
02:26 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: of course you're getting an error.
02:27 VanessaE fix line 150 damn it :-)
02:27 RealBadAngel i think i dont have gloopores here :)
02:27 NekoGloop Because it cant find the pickaxe belonging to item "default:pick_ddds"
02:27 RealBadAngel ahhh
02:29 NekoGloop that's why metalis exists.
02:30 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: turns out you should listen to Vanessa.
02:30 NekoGloop Fix line 150 dammit.
02:30 VanessaE lol
02:30 NekoGloop it at least gives us a new error :3
02:31 VanessaE yeah, you can't access an array in Lua the way you would in BASH ;)
02:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, proceeding with network code test
02:31 NekoGloop I dont know the slightest about coding in BASH
02:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, do this:
02:31 OldCoder echo meow
02:31 RealBadAngel got the reason
02:31 OldCoder There you go
02:31 RealBadAngel hold on
02:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, so pulling the latest C55 GIT should work?
02:32 RealBadAngel for j,k in ipairs(metals) do
02:32 RealBadAngel print ("j="..j..",k="..k)
02:32 RealBadAngel modis = mods[j]
02:32 RealBadAngel metalis = k
02:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: foo="bar baz quux"; for i in foo; do echo $i; done
02:32 VanessaE bar
02:32 VanessaE baz
02:32 VanessaE quux
02:32 RealBadAngel k will hold "steel" and etc
02:32 RealBadAngel dont try to call table with k
02:32 NekoGloop I wasnt.
02:33 RealBadAngel use metalis=k
02:33 NekoGloop I just did.
02:33 NekoGloop Try it.
02:35 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: to recap, you changed line 150 to "for i,l in ipairs(gems) do", right?
02:37 RealBadAngel yup
02:37 RealBadAngel need just gloopores now
02:37 NekoGloop no you dont :3
02:37 NekoGloop go in the config.lua
02:37 NekoGloop set alatro and arol to false
02:38 RealBadAngel 03:37:56: ERROR[main]: /home/realbadangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:
02:38 RealBadAngel 03:37:56: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:159: attempt to index field 'times' (a nil value)
02:38 NekoGloop but what i dont understand is why is it still erroring for me?
02:38 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: yep we're stuck on the same stone.
02:38 RealBadAngel from where you get it?
02:39 NekoGloop VanessaE: got anything to comment on the issue?
02:39 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: same line.
02:39 VanessaE show me the latest code plz :-)
02:39 RealBadAngel i mean that field
02:39 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ah.
02:39 NekoGloop from pickdef
02:39 NekoGloop :P
02:39 NekoGloop pickdig*
02:40 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/wHS4K3Y9
02:40 VanessaE dunno about it
02:41 NekoGloop because if i put print(dump(pickdig)), it has a perfectly fine times table.
02:42 RealBadAngel npickdig is empty
02:42 NekoGloop i know
02:42 NekoGloop because it fails to set its values
02:45 RealBadAngel 03:44:48: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:176: attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a nil value)
02:45 RealBadAngel im here now
02:45 NekoGloop so am i
02:45 NekoGloop attempting to remedy.
02:46 RealBadAngel added this btw :
02:46 RealBadAngel npickdig.times={}
02:46 RealBadAngel naxedigc.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel naxedigf.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel nshoveldig.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel nsworddigf.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel nsworddigs.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel nsworddigc.times = {}
02:47 RealBadAngel so times tables are defined now
02:47 NekoGloop I did this: npickdig = {times={}}
02:47 NekoGloop for each
02:47 NekoGloop less lines of code :P
02:47 NekoGloop i fixed the arithmetic
02:48 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
02:48 NekoGloop what the hell does this new error message mean?
02:49 NekoGloop I think i broke a builtin function even without redefinining it.
02:49 NekoGloop hell, i broke a C++ function from LUA.
02:49 NekoGloop That's gotta be worth a medal.
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02:51 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: any ideas? :P
02:54 NekoGloop I like how I've got three people working together on this one freaking error. Dx
02:57 RealBadAngel but who made all those errors
02:57 RealBadAngel thats the question ;)
02:57 NekoGloop c55 :3
02:57 Pavee what's happening?
02:58 NekoGloop Pavee: all hell is breaking loose.
02:58 NekoGloop a normal day in #minetest
02:58 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: got the slightest idea what the error means?
02:59 Pavee you can define vars (local) in for loops?
02:59 NekoGloop do what in the what?
02:59 Pavee 321 et al
03:00 NekoGloop 321 sa ysae sa
03:00 Pavee line 321 and others
03:00 NekoGloop I dunno
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03:01 NekoGloop that part of the code isnt coded by me :P
03:01 sokomine hi
03:01 NekoGloop sokomine: feel like debugging some lua? :P
03:01 sokomine perhaps :-) what is the problem?
03:01 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
03:02 NekoGloop with the omploader link... somewhere up there in the chat
03:02 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg
03:02 NekoGloop put the pastebin code in the init.lua of the mod
03:03 sokomine i can see the code on pastebin. which error messages do you get?
03:04 sokomine when i run minetest it slows the browser down quite a lot
03:04 NekoGloop [C]: in function "register_item_raw"
03:05 NekoGloop in the lua, it is 217.
03:05 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am done with the build. Are you here?
03:08 sokomine and where is register_item_raw? doesn't seem to be on the pastebin code?
03:08 NekoGloop sokomine: in the C++
03:08 NekoGloop I broke a C++ function from LUA. I deserve a medal. :P
03:09 sokomine you can crash the server without much work from within lua
03:09 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZD5i977WBs&amp;feature=related
03:10 RealBadAngel i just shortened your mod to just one node definition
03:10 RealBadAngel its fucked up
03:11 NekoGloop how so?
03:12 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: care to share with the class?
03:13 RealBadAngel hold on
03:14 sokomine well, the mod gives me a "invalid key to 'next'" error message
03:14 NekoGloop yep
03:14 NekoGloop that error comes from the C++
03:15 NekoGloop without knowledge of what it means? I got no fucking idea what i did wrong.
03:17 NekoGloop and I cant find such code in the itemdef.cpp
03:17 sokomine lua isn't particulary forthcoming as far as error messages are concerned
03:18 Pavee that doesn't sound like a C++ err msg
03:19 NekoGloop it certainly isnt in the LUA i can tell you that.
03:19 RealBadAngel jesus
03:19 RealBadAngel somebody shall shoot you
03:19 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: then do it now.
03:19 RealBadAngel tile_images you moron
03:20 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ?
03:20 RealBadAngel :)
03:20 NekoGloop IIRC tiles = {} is the proper way...
03:20 Pavee ?
03:20 NekoGloop tile_images is the deprecated one...
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03:21 sokomine that line here causes the trouble: sworddigc = sworddef.tool_capabilities.groupcaps.choppy
03:22 NekoGloop sokomine: how is that different than the lines around it?
03:23 sokomine well, i don't know how all these things are defined in the interface? i havn't been particulary intrested in swords and ignored the groups mostly for now. check if what you want to access there really exists and can be accessed
03:23 NekoGloop I know it does.
03:24 NekoGloop whaddya think i checked first?
03:24 sokomine well...thie other things don't seem to have the same problem. just the sword
03:25 NekoGloop i know
03:25 NekoGloop wait whAT?
03:25 NekoGloop why would you have a problem with that?
03:26 NekoGloop sokomine: explain pls
03:28 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, pastebin ur current version please
03:29 NekoGloop sadly nothing has changed from this: http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
03:30 NekoGloop ... fix it Dx
03:31 sokomine hmm. and metalis seems to be nil
03:32 NekoGloop sokomine: its not
03:32 NekoGloop print(dump(metalis))
03:32 NekoGloop that would literally print "nil" if metalis were nil
03:33 sokomine you do have a "for j,k in iparis(metals) do   modis = mods[j]    metalis = metals[j]     replace the last line there with metalis = k
03:34 sokomine metals isn't nil. metals[j] is
03:34 NekoGloop so is k apparently.
03:35 sokomine no. k has in this case the desired value
03:35 NekoGloop sokomine: yeah try again 8)
03:36 NekoGloop same error. same line. same function.
03:38 sokomine hm, ok, the error i get right now comes from moreores not beeing part of my test installation
03:38 NekoGloop in the config.lua put false next to all of them except steel
03:41 NekoGloop sokomine: print(dump(metals[j]))
03:43 sokomine at least my version of moreores does not seem to include moreores:pick_bronze
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03:46 sokomine let's see...how is it called there...moreores:bronze_pick_bronze seems more likely
03:46 sokomine strange name
03:46 NekoGloop you seem to have a -really- old moreores
03:47 sokomine yes? :-( hoped i had all more or less up to date. maybe i forgot to update moreores
03:47 NekoGloop maybe it's too -new- too :P
03:48 sokomine still...that's *your* job to print an error message then :-)
03:48 sokomine really important and often forgotten...if something is nil or out of range don't use it as an index to a table. some languages are more forgiving than others
03:49 NekoGloop why should i have to allow the stupidity of the modmaker or the user?
03:49 OldCoder I am resting for a little while
03:49 VanessaE because sometimes the mod maker = the user = you? :-)
03:50 sokomine good night, oldcoder
03:50 VanessaE (I try to allow for complete idiots to use my code, including my own occasional facepalms)
03:50 OldCoder i ll be back!
03:50 OldCoder to coin a phrase
03:50 NekoGloop VanessaE: I try to make people be smart so we dont have total idiots here in minetest :P
03:51 sokomine nekogloop: people having old or incompatible versions installed isn't stupidity. not catching such an error is a fault of your mod (happens all the time because catching them is sometimes a lot of work)
03:51 VanessaE we're gonna have total idiots anyway, may as well try to avoid utterly stupid errors :)
03:51 NekoGloop since i currently have no idea how sokomine made it work?
03:51 sokomine it doesn't work yet :-)
03:51 NekoGloop well you got it past the register_item_raw error
03:52 sokomine i'm looking at the errors and am a bit tired
03:52 NekoGloop == i can try to make it work from there
03:52 sokomine yes, well, you do have and use fileds that are not defined
03:52 NekoGloop not possible.
03:52 NekoGloop All that was changed was a different way of giving minetest the data.
03:53 NekoGloop then the whole thing goes to hell.
03:54 sokomine hm. registered tools for moerores:bronze_pick_bronze seems empty as well. hm
03:54 VanessaE s/moerores/moreores/
03:56 NekoGloop .... derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
03:56 sokomine thanks :-) but that wasn't the error. in this case moreores wasn't loaded yet
03:56 NekoGloop look at the groupcaps...
03:56 NekoGloop look really hard at the groupcaps...
03:56 NekoGloop notice whats missing?
03:56 sokomine there's an error in there, yes. that's why i changed them to a default string for testing. that got rid of one of the errors. the other one still stays
03:57 sokomine but it switched to gloopores:alatro_pick_alatro now. and i definitely don't have that. you have to catch those errors
03:57 NekoGloop I dont have to catch anything
03:57 NekoGloop Player should update.
03:58 sokomine what will your mod depend on?
03:58 NekoGloop nothing
03:59 NekoGloop its all configurable
03:59 NekoGloop look at config.lua
03:59 sokomine maybe you pointed me to wrong versions or you're working on newer ones
03:59 NekoGloop or maybe you didnt download the omploader part?
04:00 sokomine ah, ok
04:00 sokomine but still you ought to catch those errors
04:00 sokomine because eliminiating those two errors allows the game to start...
04:02 NekoGloop Now, I wait for windows to stop derping.
04:02 NekoGloop fuck
04:02 NekoGloop restarting
04:02 VanessaE its Windows.  Does it ever stop derping? :)
04:02 VanessaE haha
04:02 sokomine besides, what does "derp" mean? i had a player saying that continously on minecraft
04:03 VanessaE I guess that would be a no :-)
04:03 VanessaE derp = acts stupid
04:03 sokomine ah
04:04 VanessaE stupid, idiotic, moronic, or just plain dumb.
04:04 VanessaE :)
04:04 sokomine well...that was a strange player anyway :-)
04:06 VanessaE heh
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04:08 NekoGloop now, I need that pastebin link that i had earlier
04:08 NekoGloop can someone please repost it?
04:08 VanessaE [11-06 23:03] <NekoGloop> restarting
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04:08 VanessaE [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> its Windows.  Does it ever stop derping? :)
04:08 sokomine http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
04:08 VanessaE [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> haha
04:08 VanessaE [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> I guess that would be a no :-)
04:08 sokomine :-)
04:09 NekoGloop VanessaE: yeah, when you shut it off.
04:09 VanessaE lol
04:09 NekoGloop note to self:
04:09 NekoGloop do not end process explorer.exe
04:10 VanessaE lol
04:10 sokomine do you know now what you have to do regarding your mod, neko?
04:10 NekoGloop sokomine: yeah
04:10 sokomine ok
04:10 NekoGloop it doesnt involve killing system processes :3
04:10 sokomine ,-)
04:10 sokomine and what do you intend to change?
04:11 NekoGloop remember the groupcaps?
04:11 NekoGloop well, they cant be just put into the table
04:11 NekoGloop they need a place within the table
04:12 NekoGloop like, cracky = npickdig
04:12 sokomine yes, that seems the main error, the one that gave the initial error message. but please handle the other one as well
04:13 NekoGloop ... fuck.
04:14 NekoGloop someone walk me through what was changed in that pastebin lua?
04:14 sokomine what's up?
04:15 NekoGloop errors from before
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04:15 NekoGloop stopping explorer.exe seems to have wiped out changes i made to my files.
04:16 NekoGloop sokomine: it runs with the one you have, correct?
04:17 sokomine no, it doesn't. without moreores in depends.txt, it seems to load gems first
04:18 NekoGloop because alphabet.
04:18 sokomine thus, the tools from moreores arn't loaded yet and your mod crashes
04:18 sokomine possible. who knows?
04:18 NekoGloop I do.
04:19 sokomine but there's liddle you can change there. just put it into the readme that those things that ought to be encrusted have to be put into depends.txt   or else let your function sleep a bit until moreores&co have done their definitions
04:20 NekoGloop or make them nonoptional
04:20 NekoGloop :3
04:21 NekoGloop sokomine: doesnt seem to have worked
04:21 NekoGloop mind pastebin'ing what you have?
04:21 sokomine that might work as well. anyone considering gems will most likely have moreores as well. i only didn't because it's a limited version of the game intended for testing
04:22 sokomine ah yes, mom...
04:22 sokomine metalis = k --metals[j]
04:22 sokomine 141,146d139
04:22 sokomine <
04:22 sokomine < if( not( pickdef )) then
04:22 sokomine <             pickdef = minetest.registered_tools[modis..":"..metalis.."_pick_"..metalis]
04:22 sokomine < end
04:23 sokomine that's for the moreores version i have
04:23 sokomine plus the changs to the groupdefs
04:23 NekoGloop ...
04:23 NekoGloop -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop Its easier to copy.
04:26 sokomine http://pastebin.com/kpyDSeiy
04:27 sokomine ah, you did mention the moreores dependency in the header
04:27 sokomine there's still a debug message in it
04:27 NekoGloop i kept the header from the old gems mod :P
04:27 NekoGloop < is not wowiamdiamonds
04:27 sokomine and that if( not( pickdef )) then    ... has to be expanded. if after that try it still isn't defined throw a good error message and stop trying to do anything with it
04:28 NekoGloop WHY
04:28 NekoGloop WHY IS THIS DOUBLE TABBED
04:29 NekoGloop FUCK YOU LINUX
04:29 sokomine double tabbed?
04:29 NekoGloop yeah?
04:29 NekoGloop you have two tabs where only one is neccessarry.
04:29 sokomine hm, i used the web browser for cut&paste...
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04:29 sokomine well...do a diff to your code. it isn't exactly such a big change
04:30 NekoGloop < still has no idea what a "diff" is
04:30 sokomine diff is a tool (commandline) that shows you the difference between two files. very helpful for developing
04:32 NekoGloop what is flesyh?
04:32 sokomine looks like a typo.....
04:32 NekoGloop you have a few typographical errors.
04:32 NekoGloop for example, picks dont dig snappy
04:32 sokomine quite possible. i'm tired and i'm not a native speaker
04:33 NekoGloop they dig cracky.
04:33 NekoGloop shovels dig crumbly...
04:34 sokomine didn't picks dig almost everything?
04:34 NekoGloop no...?
04:34 sokomine or perhaps it's just the nodes that most of the time allow beeing...well...picked up by almost everything
04:34 NekoGloop mese pick is a special case.
04:35 sokomine ah, ok. took me a lot of time to figure out that it's worth using one
04:36 NekoGloop sweet it loaded this time :P
04:36 sokomine too much lag/slow computer (or at least not very good grapic card) lead to stone not always digged up, so i didn't think a mese pick might improve things much. but now it works better
04:36 sokomine :-)
04:37 VanessaE fuck using a mese pick - get a maptools Admin Pick :-)
04:37 NekoGloop get an evil pick
04:38 sokomine :-) the diamond- and titanium ones seem to be quite good as well (and almost indestructible compared to mese)
04:39 sokomine but why stop with the admin pick? to really get something done worldedit might be much more powerful :-))))
04:39 NekoGloop hehe
04:39 NekoGloop diamond?
04:39 NekoGloop you using -that- old mod?
04:39 NekoGloop :3
04:39 NekoGloop and titanium, meh, if it was used in e.g. technic i'd be much more inclined to use it
04:39 sokomine well, it does construct lasting picks. they really last :-)
04:40 NekoGloop so do arol
04:40 NekoGloop FUUU--
04:40 sokomine hm?
04:40 NekoGloop helps to add ..".png" :P
04:40 sokomine yes, sometimes :-)
04:42 NekoGloop VanessaE: please tell me i got this right: "VanessaEzekowitz"
04:42 sokomine on my singleplayer version the selection of installed mods is quite diffrent than on a server. mostly i can't live without flowers, moreores, farming, farming_plus, bushes (basicly nature_pack_controlled) and sometimes animals
04:42 VanessaE yep
04:43 NekoGloop sokomine: all of the above, minus animals and farming_plus...
04:43 sokomine as long as vanessa doesn't ask us to pronounce her name...
04:43 NekoGloop with the addition of pretty much everything else.
04:43 VanessaE just exactly as it's spelled, no silent e's or z's. :-)
04:43 NekoGloop sokomine: its not that part that's a problem. that's easy.
04:43 NekoGloop the hard part is remembering it :3
04:43 VanessaE lol
04:44 sokomine vanessa: doesn't help much. i do spelling in german, and that is diffrent
04:44 NekoGloop ok, can i have a show of hands?
04:44 NekoGloop who thinks that ores should use "cracky=2"
04:45 VanessaE Well that it folks - it's all over but the shouting.  CNN, Fox, NBC, and the AP have all called it for Obama.
04:45 NekoGloop VanessaE: we're doooooooooooooooooooooooomed..............?
04:46 VanessaE no, quite the opposite.  Either way, now we can start ripping down all of those G*d damned political signs all over the place :-)
04:46 NekoGloop the nation is already gonna keel over one way or the other.
04:48 NekoGloop sokomine: the main point of this patch is to make the encrusted tools be registered in a loop, rather than individually.
04:49 NekoGloop and now I am off to bed.
04:49 sokomine neko: yes, useful if you have more than one tool
04:49 NekoGloop good night.
04:49 sokomine sleep well
04:49 NekoGloop sokomine: also useful for texture pack makers.
04:49 sokomine the u.s. election system seems a bit strange from here
04:50 VanessaE sokomine:  it IS strange.
04:50 NekoGloop sokomine: its a bit strange from here too :3
04:50 sokomine but ours isn't perfect either
04:50 sokomine :-)
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06:33 ruskie *yawn*
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08:09 leo_rockway OldCoder: I have git clones of armor, workbench, craftguide, particles, bags, inventoryplus. I update nightly, so they should be latest.
08:09 leo_rockway highlight me or pm me if you need any. I'm going to sleep.
08:11 leo_rockway I'm sad about seeing him go, btw.
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10:37 celeron55 news about mese! http://www.iltalehti.fi/digi/2012110716300181_du.shtml
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11:20 jin_xi wow, its really nice how fast ambient mod is loaded
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12:17 OldCoder Hi!
12:17 OldCoder leo_rockway, Hey!
12:17 OldCoder leo_rockway, ZIP up your set and email it or just upload to SendSpace.com
12:17 OldCoder Thank you!
12:18 OldCoder He told me that he does not object BTW. Except for one file; I have removed that one at his request.
12:18 OldCoder 4:15am my time BTW. I am here but (a) I am going to buy cola now. (b) I will be away for some hours later today.
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12:50 OldCoder anunakki, hi
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13:52 NekoGloop Meow?
13:57 OldCoder Hi kitty
13:57 * OldCoder pats the kitty absent mindedly
13:58 * NekoGloop purrs :3
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14:07 NekoGloop hello iqualfragile
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14:08 iqualfragile hi neko
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14:10 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi
14:10 iqualfragile hi oldcoder
14:11 iqualfragile just out of curiosity: is the order of words different in the polish language
14:11 OldCoder Relative to English?
14:11 OldCoder Provide an example
14:11 iqualfragile in most languages i know you greet like
14:11 iqualfragile hello name
14:11 iqualfragile or hi name
14:11 iqualfragile or hallo name
14:11 iqualfragile oder guten tag name
14:11 OldCoder It can be either order for English
14:11 iqualfragile (last two were german)
14:11 OldCoder Depends on context
14:12 OldCoder In a formal English letter: Name, Hi. may be normal.
14:12 OldCoder I don't think there's a firm rule
14:12 iqualfragile so there are some cases in the polish language where you greet like name hello?
14:12 OldCoder I do not speak Polish and therefore cannot be sure
14:13 iqualfragile some quite sleepy part of my brain exchanged you with realbadangle
14:14 OldCoder Ha
14:14 iqualfragile im sorry
14:14 OldCoder No
14:14 OldCoder He is the one you should ask
14:14 OldCoder It was because he and I are both very old :-)
14:14 OldCoder We look down from the Rock of Ages
14:17 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIgZWgfaZHc
14:31 RealBadAngel hi
14:32 blaze hi
14:32 RealBadAngel just browsed the forums and got suprised
14:32 blaze iqualfragile: words ordering is not so important in polish as in english
14:32 NekoGloop hm?
14:32 RealBadAngel found some new mod that adds swamps
14:32 RealBadAngel not really suprising but
14:32 RealBadAngel the guys uses shaders
14:33 RealBadAngel made by kahrl 8 months ago
14:33 NekoGloop "Here's a screenshot of the old junglemod:"
14:33 iqualfragile blaze: but you have one more gramatical case, dont you?
14:33 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: "Here's a screenshot of the old junglemod:"
14:33 NekoGloop its not a screenie by him IIRC
14:33 RealBadAngel i dont give a fuck to the swamps
14:34 NekoGloop Me neither ^^
14:34 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzAu9mGh4d4&amp;feature=relmfu :3
14:35 RealBadAngel https://github.com/kahrl/minetest/tree/shaders_v3
14:35 NekoGloop i know.
14:35 RealBadAngel this is somethin interesting
14:36 RealBadAngel using shaders can make game amazingly beautiful
14:36 RealBadAngel dynamic lighting, bump mapping
14:37 NekoGloop I would love it if it was upgraded to 0.4.3 and made a windows build thereof.
14:37 RealBadAngel gonna just dig the code of it
14:38 RealBadAngel if its already implemented, shall be no prob to port it to 043
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14:39 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, managed to get rid of all errors?
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14:39 NekoGloop well it was a depends issue.
14:39 RealBadAngel FreeFull, lol@ your domain
14:40 FreeFull =P
14:40 FreeFull You only noticed now?
14:40 RealBadAngel sausage-lover rotfl
14:40 FreeFull Had it for a while =P
14:40 RealBadAngel you just joined when i was talkin to neko
14:40 RealBadAngel so seen your host
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14:47 NekoGloop Meow.
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14:48 Lumpio- ugh
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15:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LciylndQPu8 :3
15:05 RealBadAngel i havent installed flash yet ;)
15:05 NekoGloop xD
15:05 NekoGloop then you should load the HTML5 player.
15:06 NekoGloop http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LciylndQPu8
15:06 RealBadAngel first the GUI for github
15:06 RealBadAngel rest can wait
15:06 iqualfragile youtube.com/html5
15:07 iqualfragile https://youtube.com/html5
15:07 RealBadAngel you can youtube as much as u wish
15:07 RealBadAngel i wont see it :)
15:07 Lumpio- >2012
15:07 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: HTML5.
15:07 Lumpio- >browser can't even play videos
15:07 NekoGloop not flash.
15:07 Lumpio- (  ï¾Ÿ,_ゝ゚)
15:08 NekoGloop tis what you get for using a linux distro :3
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15:08 RealBadAngel html5 player is experimental
15:08 Lumpio- My Linux plays all video (including Flash) quite fine
15:09 Lumpio- Infact to be honest, these days I get more Flash crashes on my work computer that runs Windows...
15:09 RealBadAngel im just jokin, i could play them if i paid attention to it
15:09 RealBadAngel had another priorities on new system than just youtube
15:10 NekoGloop < never has a problem with windows computer unless he causes it directly :P
15:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, hi
15:11 RealBadAngel btw NekoGloop, and no, windows is not any better because it plays youtube right after install
15:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I think I need to revert the part of celeron55 code that is backwards incompatible
15:11 OldCoder Then I can fix the network issue myself
15:11 OldCoder I can't join the new version you gave me because it has the node serialization error
15:11 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: did i say that?
15:11 RealBadAngel he made some further patches i think, read the log in #dev
15:11 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, you were about to say that
15:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have been ordered to leave the dev channel
15:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, therefore I have complied
15:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I do not have the logs
15:12 NekoGloop Now I werent.
15:12 RealBadAngel seen the argue
15:12 NekoGloop Fuck you all too.
15:12 RealBadAngel hehehe
15:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, all is well
15:12 RealBadAngel chill out
15:12 OldCoder Or well enough
15:12 NekoGloop I hope you all know a simple "we dont want you here" is good enough/
15:12 OldCoder ?
15:12 OldCoder NekoGloop, we do want you here
15:12 OldCoder It would be lonely indeed
15:13 NekoGloop no. not really.
15:13 OldCoder Without a temperamental and fussy and demanding cat
15:13 OldCoder Curled up by the fireplace sometimes
15:13 * OldCoder misses his cats
15:13 * OldCoder will return in a bit
15:14 celeron55 shaders_v3 does nothing useful
15:14 celeron55 it's just a framework for shaders
15:15 FreeFull What's shaders_v3? A mod?
15:15 celeron55 kahrl whipped it up just out of interest and in order to test shader performance on different hardware
15:15 celeron55 FreeFull: a branch
15:16 NekoGloop celeron55: but it makes the game look better.
15:16 celeron55 NekoGloop: it doesn't, unless you make it to
15:16 NekoGloop they should at least be an option to have shaders in upstream.
15:19 FreeFull I wonder, if you make it a checkbox, if that would allow for those who don't have a graphics chip that supports shaders to still play
15:19 celeron55 NekoGloop: the shaders_v3 makes the game look like this: http://c55.me/random/2012-02/minetest_render_25.png
15:19 celeron55 it just inverts colors
15:20 NekoGloop yes but it can be edited to make the things look better.
15:20 celeron55 most likely nobody here is able to
15:21 NekoGloop http://wiki.pixbits.com/index.php/Bamboo_Block I would love to see papyrus blocks.
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15:22 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:22 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
15:23 * NekoGloop gives PilzAdam a cookie
15:23 * PilzAdam gives it back to NekoGloop
15:23 PilzAdam i just had lunch
15:23 * NekoGloop throws it at adam
15:23 * PilzAdam offers it to RealBadAngel
15:24 FreeFull I've written a few shaders before
15:24 FreeFull But I probably wouldn't make minetest look better
15:24 ecube why
15:25 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: in total, how many clay lumps do i need if i make a normal and electric alloy furnacE?
15:28 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, whats with the wheat textures for farming?
15:31 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, 5 bricks, so 20 clay
15:31 NekoGloop 8 bricks for normal one, so that would be...
15:31 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, im goin off for 1,5hrs soon, will do that when back
15:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, do you know if it is possible to revert the celeron55 code you wished to test to remove the backwards incompatible nodebox changes?
15:31 RealBadAngel 5 for electric, 8 for coal driven
15:32 RealBadAngel OldCoder, idk, ask c55
15:32 RealBadAngel or PilzAdam
15:33 NekoGloop why the hell is clay so rare.
15:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I do not feel I have much to say to PilzAdam ATM. Regarding celeron55 you were the one who brought me his code. I will review the code further today if I don't go to San Jose. I will do what I can.
15:34 PilzAdam OldCoder, how is the state of the PilzTest server?
15:34 OldCoder PilzAdam, I restarted it yesterday and opened it up. The rest is up to any players.
15:34 PilzAdam is ambience still installed?
15:34 OldCoder Let me check
15:35 OldCoder om
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15:36 OldCoder PilzAdam, The world appears to be up. Unless there is a lockup I do not see. Ambience remains installed. If you don't like Ambience then with your mighty Core Dev status help me to build the celeron55 that RealBadAngel has brought me. We need to revert the backwards incompatible nodebox changes.
15:36 OldCoder *celeron55 code
15:36 OldCoder
15:37 PilzAdam i have no idea what code you are talking about
15:37 RealBadAngel or lets use jeija's client side LUA
15:37 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Go on
15:37 OldCoder PilzAdam, I am attempting to produce a sensible and stable set of servers and clients
15:37 RealBadAngel look on forums for "proof on concept"
15:38 RealBadAngel jeija made workin LUA side simple mod
15:38 OldCoder PilzAdam, it is not as easy as it appears. And core dev issues are involved. Therefore take your remark of yesterday and shove it.
15:38 * OldCoder is pleased to get that off his chest
15:38 RealBadAngel *client side
15:38 * OldCoder returns to the code
15:39 RealBadAngel this exact side where ambience should be
15:39 PilzAdam OldCoder, it would be nice if you could remove the ambience mod; but you dont have to do it immediatly
15:40 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3533
15:40 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, just download the cache
15:40 OldCoder PilzAdam, I am occupied with the process of producing a sensible and stable set of servers and clients. You can help with that or not. This will include fixing the Ambience problem.
15:40 OldCoder I will be hampered in the process as I am not welcome in the core dev channel.
15:41 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: people like me and adam dont like constant noise.
15:41 OldCoder As you know.
15:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, It is my hope to add checkboxes that will work
15:41 NekoGloop or at least to be able to go on youtube and choose the music we hear.
15:41 OldCoder Ditto for that
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15:42 OldCoder mrtux, how is your cold?
15:42 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i can play music with my mp3 player. but thats not the issue
15:42 mrtux getting better
15:43 RealBadAngel and just because you dont like it, it doesnt mean others shall not have it
15:43 NekoGloop the issue is that they are letting you code the C++
15:43 RealBadAngel download cache, turn your speakers off ;)
15:43 NekoGloop but i wanna hear the SFX
15:44 NekoGloop and my youtube music.
15:44 RealBadAngel so you would like to have volume sliders in game propably?
15:44 NekoGloop wont work.
15:44 NekoGloop would disable the SFX as well.
15:44 NekoGloop because that's all ambience is.
15:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, NekoGloop See above. We will add checkboxes.
15:44 OldCoder That will work.
15:45 NekoGloop SFX played on a loop.
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15:45 RealBadAngel when done, ambience should follow the rules
15:45 NekoGloop OldCoder: nope.
15:45 RealBadAngel sfx volume, music volume
15:45 RealBadAngel easy as that
15:45 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: when done, such should be handled by game internally.
15:45 NekoGloop not by external mod.
15:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, nope what?
15:46 NekoGloop nothing.
15:46 NekoGloop my opinions arent important.
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15:47 RealBadAngel game should provide ways
15:47 RealBadAngel mods shall use them
15:48 NekoGloop You have all proven that my opinions mean nothing.
15:48 RealBadAngel nothin less nothin more
15:48 NekoGloop Oh yes, great and mighty god. You shall be the only one who matters.
15:48 Jordach RealBadAngel i tried making a reactor - works fine, but it wont transfer power to wiring
15:48 NekoGloop Jordach: needs to be registered as a machine.
15:48 Lumpio- Maybe you forgot to plug it in
15:48 Jordach it is
15:48 NekoGloop So the batbox will recognize it.
15:49 Jordach NekoGloop - ill go check
15:49 NekoGloop Jordach: did you use the correct register function?
15:49 RealBadAngel Jordach, when i got back i will explain it to you
15:49 NekoGloop IIRC the MV and LV ones have different functions.
15:49 RealBadAngel look at battery box lua
15:49 RealBadAngel very end of it
15:49 RealBadAngel you will understand why
15:49 NekoGloop IMO there should just be one type of power.
15:49 NekoGloop or at least just one batbox.
15:50 Jordach or some group
15:50 NekoGloop groups wouldnt work
15:50 Jordach power = 1 (lv) 2 (mv) 3 (hv)
15:51 NekoGloop the function needs more than the groups can provide.
15:51 OldCoder Jordach, hello
15:51 OldCoder Calinou, ditto
15:51 NekoGloop we playin' pokemon now?
15:52 Calinou hi
15:52 Calinou Jordach: contact apple's help, they'll tell you "buy a new reactor"
15:52 Calinou 8D
15:52 Jordach for gods sake, thats funny
15:53 NekoGloop why is that not amusing.
15:53 NekoGloop I should texture the brick inventory item.
15:54 NekoGloop and the alloy furnace because the false god refuses to texture something in 16x.
15:55 Jordach RealBadAngel - the lines at the bottom of bat box.lua dont work
15:55 NekoGloop Jordach: because those are for LV batbox.
15:56 NekoGloop try plugging it into a LV batbox.
15:56 Jordach i am
15:56 NekoGloop oh?
15:56 NekoGloop my API function? he broke it?
15:56 NekoGloop why am i not surprised?
15:56 Jordach NekoGloop - minetest.zapto.org : 30000
15:56 NekoGloop ??
15:56 Jordach for testing
15:57 NekoGloop please tell me you dont have any extra crappy mods.
15:57 Jordach nope
15:57 Jordach just what technic needs
15:57 Jordach (fuck all)
15:57 * Jordach dislikes ambiance
15:57 NekoGloop sweet I'll connect in half a second then :P
15:57 NekoGloop ... assuming the server is up 8)
15:57 Jordach it is up
15:58 NekoGloop really?
15:58 NekoGloop minetest says not :P
15:58 Jordach ehm fuck
15:59 Jordach the buffer fills fine
15:59 Jordach and the hacky_node_swap works
15:59 NekoGloop I cant even connect.
15:59 Jordach i killed it
16:00 Jordach (server)
16:00 NekoGloop couldnt connect when you said i could.
16:00 * Jordach checks router
16:10 Jordach RealBadAngel - why do mv cables produce so many <> in the console?
16:12 * OldCoder laughs
16:13 OldCoder <NekoGloop> please tell me you dont have any extra crappy mods.
16:13 OldCoder Can't have any of those! :p
16:13 NekoGloop irony ^
16:13 OldCoder We must make a list of them
16:13 OldCoder And hunt them with wolves
16:13 NekoGloop well here's a start: ambience
16:13 OldCoder See above. There will be checkboxes.
16:14 OldCoder Maybe alternative music.
16:14 OldCoder They Might Be Giants.
16:14 OldCoder Beck's "I'm A Loser"
16:14 OldCoder Etc.
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16:14 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxvQH4lyHps&amp;feature=g-vrec
16:17 Jordach RealBadAngel https://github.com/Jordach/technic i put my changes here
16:19 NekoGloop huh
16:19 NekoGloop you can get to World -1 in Mari0
16:22 VanessaE yeah but you don't do it by jumping over the flag ;)
16:22 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
16:23 NekoGloop you dont in original SMB1 either.
16:23 VanessaE (that was the rumor back in the day, to get to the "minus world" you jump over the flag at the end of World 1-1)
16:23 NekoGloop ah.
16:23 VanessaE yeah I know, it was a BS rumor :-)
16:23 NekoGloop its easier to accomplish in Mari0
16:23 NekoGloop since, y'know, you only have a portal gun and all.
16:23 VanessaE hi PilzAdam
16:24 Jordach VanessaE - in donkey kong a few pixels on the first ladder allows you to climb down and end up at the top
16:24 VanessaE never tried that
16:24 Jordach but it HAS TO BE pixel perfect
16:24 NekoGloop I've launched myself at a flag once with the portal gun. It fills the squares above it with solid-ity.
16:24 Jordach there is no if or elses here
16:24 Jordach :D
16:25 * Jordach is planning a FOSS FPS
16:25 Jordach based on my own damn engine!
16:25 NekoGloop There's also no pulling currents in World -1
16:25 NekoGloop can someone confirm this happens in SMB1?
16:25 Jordach Borderlands 2 has a world record for the most guns ever in a single game
16:26 OldCoder Jordach, It will be interesting to see this. Make it C and not C++.
16:26 Jordach yes NekoGloop
16:26 Jordach OldCoder C, just C?
16:26 NekoGloop Aw, I cant select World -1 in the World Select. XD
16:26 Jordach i probably wanna use Irrlicht
16:26 Jordach type it
16:26 NekoGloop me>?
16:26 Jordach yes!
16:26 NekoGloop doesnt work
16:26 NekoGloop :P
16:27 Jordach aw
16:27 NekoGloop fire flower + portals
16:27 Jordach im considering converting MiniDoku light
16:27 Jordach does anyone. want?
16:28 NekoGloop portals like so:
16:28 NekoGloop OO--
16:28 NekoGloop --BB
16:28 NekoGloop shoot a fireball into the blue one.
16:29 NekoGloop three block tall area
16:29 NekoGloop so i guess more like:
16:29 NekoGloop OO--
16:29 NekoGloop ____
16:29 NekoGloop ____
16:29 NekoGloop ___
16:29 NekoGloop --BB
16:30 NekoGloop FACK
16:30 OldCoder Hi
16:31 OldCoder Jordach, If possible. It is not a rule.
16:31 NekoGloop I was -next- to the flag
16:31 OldCoder But this will be good.
16:31 NekoGloop and time runs out
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16:44 Taoki Just a FYI: I just got client-side attachments for models working at last, for the first time! My changes are on GIT. I will post on the forum later tonight with more technical details... still some bugs to fix
16:45 Taoki For now, BBL
16:46 Jordach YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
16:46 jin_xi wow
16:47 jin_xi can't wait to make an axe wielding rock troll mob
16:47 Jordach or a REAL dungeon master
16:47 jin_xi naww, rock troll
16:47 Jordach wait wait wait
16:47 Jordach Calinou - make a xonotic gamemode!
16:49 MiJyn Jordach, you made a 3D game engine?
16:49 jin_xi channeling Calinou response: no u
16:49 Jordach MiJyn - i plan on using Irrlicht but making my own game engine, like minetest
16:50 Calinou jin_xi is sayin' the truth
16:50 Jordach (rather than using quakes one ammo no reloads)
16:50 jin_xi oop
16:50 jin_xi s
16:50 Calinou Jordach: there are reloadable weapons in xon
16:50 Calinou and you can tweak variables to make any weapon reloadable
16:50 MiJyn Jordach, oh, pure OpenGL?
16:50 Calinou (you just need admin rights on a server)
16:50 Jordach Calinou - there is not enough guns
16:51 Jordach i aprove of borderlands 2 because it has a world record for the most guns ever
16:52 MiJyn Jordach, oh, nvrm
16:52 MiJyn what about the memory leaks?
16:53 Jordach they fixed it
16:53 Jordach (a bit)
16:53 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/41c00e87d42580881d8c7001f39014814e3b55f2
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17:02 MiJyn Jordach, I'm talking about irrlicht
17:02 MiJyn not minetest
17:03 Jordach im off to play xonotic
17:08 Calinou semi-relevant to minetest: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/lua.png
17:08 Calinou Jordach: what server?
17:20 Jordach Calinou - i wanna finish campaign first
17:20 Jordach thats my rule, sp then mp
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18:02 jkingjay wie installiere ich mods oder texture packs ????
18:03 Lumpio- Achtung Deutschland
18:03 NekoGloop lol.
18:13 RealBadAngel hehe
18:14 RealBadAngel im back btw
18:14 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, here?
18:14 PilzAdam yep
18:14 RealBadAngel pm
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18:16 OdnetninI OldCoder, the server is dowen
18:16 OdnetninI down*
18:17 OdnetninI I can't Connect
18:17 NekoGloop celeron55: would it be possible to allow craft recipes to tag some wear to a tool used in the recipes?
18:18 OdnetninI OldCoder?
18:19 NekoGloop now... to make a node that does the encrusting of the tools.
18:22 OdnetninI What's up OldCoder?
18:24 NekoGloop how do i use a button within a formspec?
18:25 PilzAdam there are many mods that use this; you can learn it yourself
18:27 NekoGloop I dont give a fuck about you.
18:28 PilzAdam NekoGloop, first define the button in the formspec: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L721
18:30 PilzAdam NekoGloop, if it gets clicked this function is called: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1401
18:34 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, take music_player.lua
18:34 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: no.
18:34 RealBadAngel im using there buttons
18:35 RealBadAngel no to what?
18:35 NekoGloop no to using your code.
18:35 RealBadAngel whatever
18:36 RealBadAngel when i made it i also looked at some1 eles code
18:36 RealBadAngel to get an example
18:38 thexyz there's also http://api.minetest.net/page/view/view/formspec.html
18:38 NekoGloop ah, the api site is back up.
18:42 OldCoder Hi!
18:42 OldCoder I have been on the phone Odnet*
18:42 OldCoder But I see you are gone
18:42 OldCoder NekoGloop, API is there?
18:42 NekoGloop apparently.
18:42 OldCoder Which server was Odnet* talking about?
18:42 NekoGloop not sure
18:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, t y
18:45 NekoGloop for?
18:45 OldCoder NekoGloop, answering me
18:46 OldCoder NekoGloop, in life sometimes people do not respect others enough even to answer
18:46 OldCoder I have come to value answers
18:51 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, what you dont understand with buttons usage?
18:51 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: how to make them do something.
18:51 RealBadAngel hold on then
18:52 RealBadAngel formspec string: "button[5,2;1,1;track1;1]"
18:52 NekoGloop I think I've got it
18:52 NekoGloop realtest anvil :P
18:53 RealBadAngel x,y,width,height, label visible, label of event
18:53 RealBadAngel then:
18:53 NekoGloop all i wanna know is how would i make a tool's wear transfer to another tool?
18:54 RealBadAngel on_receive_fields = function(pos, formanme, fields, sender)
18:55 RealBadAngel so buttons or wear?
18:55 NekoGloop never mind
18:56 RealBadAngel youre askin for help and another sentece refusing it
18:57 NekoGloop how about this: got images that would work for a jeweling table?
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18:58 RealBadAngel more precise?
18:59 RealBadAngel what is jewelin table?
18:59 NekoGloop you put tool and gem in, you get encrusted tool.
18:59 NekoGloop rather than craftgrid.
19:00 RealBadAngel not possible without changes to the formspec
19:00 NekoGloop perfectly possible.
19:00 NekoGloop after all, wasnt a music player "impossible"
19:00 NekoGloop ?
19:00 NekoGloop :#
19:00 RealBadAngel which im currently on
19:00 NekoGloop :3
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19:00 OldCoder OdnetninI, which server?
19:01 OdnetninI Skyblock
19:01 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i can make such option to the formspec
19:01 NekoGloop I can do it right now.
19:01 RealBadAngel to join items
19:01 NekoGloop Dude. I'm 99% sure this will work.
19:02 RealBadAngel then go on, suprise me
19:02 RealBadAngel meanwhile im rewriting formspec
19:03 RealBadAngel introduced variables already
19:03 RealBadAngel now workin on user defined functions
19:04 NekoGloop Hey look.
19:04 NekoGloop i forgot a comma.
19:04 NekoGloop Fuck.
19:04 OldCoder OdnetninI, are you saying that you can't connect to Skyblock?
19:04 OdnetninI yes
19:05 OdnetninI i can't
19:05 OldCoder Checking
19:07 OldCoder OdnetninI, Thank you! You have helped us to identify a Skyblock bug
19:07 OdnetninI what bug?
19:08 OldCoder 18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=7 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (214,-1,183)
19:08 OldCoder WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=7 not found
19:08 OldCoder 18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=8 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (214,-2,183)
19:08 OldCoder That leads up to:
19:08 OldCoder 18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:70: bad argument #1 to 'get_meta' (table expected, got nil)
19:08 OldCoder
19:08 OldCoder Is anybody able to comment on this?
19:08 OldCoder OdnetninI, I will restart it now
19:08 NekoGloop OldCoder: chunks are unloaded. Skyblock still tries to get meta.
19:08 OldCoder Cause?
19:08 OldCoder Should I do a clearobjects?
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19:08 NekoGloop Number blocks that hold the level-data
19:09 OldCoder Hmm
19:09 NekoGloop The level nodes.
19:09 OldCoder Conclusions?
19:09 OldCoder Damaged?
19:09 NekoGloop hm...
19:09 OldCoder Or transitory?
19:09 NekoGloop as long as a player doesnt stray too far away from their home.
19:09 NekoGloop for too long.
19:09 OldCoder That is not acceptable
19:09 OdnetninI Hmmm
19:09 OldCoder Will clearobjects help?
19:09 NekoGloop no.
19:10 OdnetninI I went too many far of my house
19:10 OldCoder Do I need to revert the world?
19:10 OdnetninI no please
19:10 NekoGloop no.
19:10 OdnetninI i invert many of qork
19:10 OldCoder Fixes?
19:10 OldCoder Wait
19:10 OdnetninI qork*
19:10 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: ok smartypants.
19:10 OldCoder Backup is not too old
19:10 OldCoder About 3 days
19:10 OldCoder OdnetninI, would 3 days be too long? Maybe 4?
19:11 NekoGloop How do i make the node right-clickable, RealBadAngel?
19:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, advice?
19:11 OdnetninI If you see my house
19:11 OldCoder OdnetninI, when was it built?
19:11 OdnetninI I extend my house too far
19:11 OldCoder I am shutting down the worlds. Technic will be updated.
19:11 OdnetninI my house not, my terrain
19:11 OldCoder NekoGloop, advice regarding Skyblock? Revert 4 days?
19:12 OdnetninI to make a mini world to create structures
19:12 OldCoder OdnetninI, is 4 days O.K. ?
19:12 OdnetninI 4 days?
19:12 OdnetninI what?
19:12 OldCoder I can go back 4 days
19:13 OldCoder Revert 4 days
19:13 OldCoder That was last Skyblock backup
19:13 OdnetninI mmm
19:13 OdnetninI can you give me a copy of actual world
19:13 OdnetninI ?
19:13 OldCoder The current one? yes
19:13 OdnetninI givee me
19:13 OldCoder I will need to export it
19:13 OdnetninI and revert
19:13 OdnetninI ok
19:13 OldCoder I will try this now
19:13 OldCoder It is LevelDB
19:13 NekoGloop OldCoder: havent been on in at least a month xD
19:13 OldCoder You will need SQLite3
19:13 OldCoder NekoGloop, advice?
19:14 NekoGloop I havent a clue
19:14 OldCoder k
19:14 NekoGloop I just play the game.
19:14 OldCoder Proceeding to export 30002
19:14 OdnetninI One thing, i can't go too far of my home?
19:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, ^
19:14 NekoGloop i broke an ipairs function.
19:16 OldCoder OdnetninI, I am attempting to produce an SQLite3 version of the world
19:16 OdnetninI ok
19:16 OldCoder This may take about 10 minutes
19:16 OdnetninI ok
19:16 OdnetninI no problem
19:16 PilzAdam gtg; bye
19:18 OldCoder OdnetninI, ready soon. I request that you download the world and test it yourself. You will need the mods. I will provide those as well.
19:18 OdnetninI ok, provide me
19:18 OldCoder Coming soon
19:20 OldCoder OdnetninI, I am sorry. The export did not work. The best I can do is save the current world until it can be exported. thexyz export to sqlite3 does not appear to work.
19:20 OdnetninI ok
19:21 OldCoder Trying one more way
19:21 OldCoder OdnetninI, I may also build a LevelDB client soon
19:21 OldCoder If I succeed
19:21 OldCoder You will be able to play the world offline without export
19:21 OldCoder Anyway hold on
19:22 OdnetninI ok
19:23 OdnetninI pass me
19:23 OldCoder ?
19:23 OdnetninI nothing sorry
19:24 OldCoder thexyz, migrate to sqlite3 prints normal output and seems to work but the output is only 3KB in size
19:26 OldCoder OdnetninI, here is what I propose. Your current buildings will be saved and not deleted. I will revert 4 days. If I can build a LevelDB client or fix export to SQLite3 you will receive a copy of the world. Is this acceptable?
19:26 OdnetninI Yes
19:26 OldCoder Very well
19:26 OdnetninI but
19:26 OldCoder Go on
19:26 OdnetninI I can't build a LevelBG client
19:26 OldCoder I can
19:27 OldCoder If *I* can build one is what I said
19:27 OldCoder It is my responsibility
19:27 OldCoder As the format is not standard here yet
19:27 OdnetninI ok
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19:28 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIop055eJhU&amp;feature=related Aw, she's so cute~ and so lethal~
19:30 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: tis a working jeweling table. :P
19:31 NekoGloop Now i just have to make it work regardless of the slot you put the gem/tool into.
19:31 NekoGloop :3
19:31 NekoGloop and fix the formspec too, it kinda goofed up with where i put the button.
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19:37 sokomine hi
19:38 NekoGloop hello sokomine
19:38 sokomine how are the gems progressing?
19:38 NekoGloop I'm making a jeweling table ATM
19:38 NekoGloop so encrusting isnt done in the inventory. :3
19:39 NekoGloop also makes wear transfer properly.
19:40 sokomine ok :-)
19:40 NekoGloop working surprisingly well.
19:41 NekoGloop except that the formspec insists on looking like crap
19:41 sokomine takes some getting used to. took me some time to get the input line for the shared locked objects halfway acceptable as far as design is concerned
19:42 NekoGloop I mean the button seems to place itself in the formspec.
19:42 NekoGloop completely ignoring the x and y i specify.
19:42 sokomine oh? sounds strange
19:44 NekoGloop Some Exception: There's a problem, but I'm not gonna tell you what it is.
19:45 sokomine :-) know that as well
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19:46 NekoGloop minetest.register_craft({ output = "gems:jeweling_table", recipe = { {"gloopores:akalin_ingot","gloopores:akalin_ingot","gloopores:akalin_ingot"}, {"default:wood","group:gem","default:wood"}, {"default:wood","default:wood","default:wood"} } })
19:47 Doc22 NekoGloop want to play with me
19:47 Doc22 I can now
19:47 Doc22 for a long time
19:47 NekoGloop busy.
19:47 Doc22 ok
19:47 Doc22 with a mod?
19:48 NekoGloop gems.
19:48 Doc22 cool
19:48 Doc22 want some help
19:48 Doc22 I can do textures
19:48 Doc22 or whatever
19:49 NekoGloop hm... I need a better wood texture for my texture pack, but i think what I'm dealing with is a tad beyond a beginning modder. Sorry :/
19:50 sokomine there are always texture requests in the forum
19:50 NekoGloop sokomine: note to self: when changing a formspec, re-place all nodes with said formspec.
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19:50 Doc22 ok
19:51 Doc22 what is the code
19:51 Doc22 i might be able to learn from it
19:51 sokomine right. and when operating with doors remember to make sure they can identify their top counterpart. makes intresting stacks of doors otherwise :-)
19:51 Doc22 heh heh
19:52 NekoGloop sokomine: like digging the top of the door and have it remove what's above it?
19:52 sokomine doc22: if you have an idea for a good mod you might write it yourshelf. lua isn't terribly complicated (at least not for simple things)
19:52 Doc22 yeah
19:53 Doc22 I just would probably need some help if I got started making generation scripts
19:53 sokomine more like opening a door that doesn't know that it's the bottom part that got punched and puts a new door-top on top of the existing one...
19:53 Doc22 or something
19:53 Doc22 lol
19:53 Doc22 i see that happening
19:53 sokomine generation scripts?
19:54 NekoGloop I made steel doors.
19:54 NekoGloop and when you dig the top, it breaks what's above it.
19:54 NekoGloop (steel doors being ones only opened by mesecons.)
19:55 sokomine at least it was easy to fix. but did look funny ingame
19:56 NekoGloop sokomine: he means ores.
19:56 sokomine ah, ok
19:57 sokomine and what kind of ores?
19:57 Doc22 any
19:57 Doc22 like what are the variables
19:57 Doc22 im looking at the code for diamonds mod
19:58 Doc22 and it has variables like name, wherein, minp, maxp, seed, chunks_per_volume, ore_per_chunk, height_min, height_max
19:58 Doc22 can you tell me what they are (excluding obvious like seed and ore per chunk)
19:59 Doc22 and I understand lua
19:59 Doc22 i just dont get what the variables are for
20:00 Doc22 so sokamine can you tell me what chunks_per_volume, minp, maxp are?
20:00 Doc22 and heightmin is from -31000 roght
20:00 NekoGloop minp maxp and seed are handled by minetest proper.
20:00 Doc22 right*
20:00 Doc22 ok
20:01 NekoGloop heightmin is the lowest you can find the ore
20:01 NekoGloop heightmax is the highest.
20:01 Doc22 ok
20:01 Doc22 so 10
20:01 Doc22 is 10 blocks under
20:01 NekoGloop 10 is 10 blocks above sea level.
20:01 Doc22 ok
20:01 NekoGloop not below.
20:01 Doc22 and -10 is 10 bleow
20:01 Doc22 ok
20:01 NekoGloop yes.
20:01 Doc22 thanks
20:02 Doc22 hrmmm now to read the function
20:02 Doc22 wtfpl means you can use the code right
20:02 NekoGloop yes.
20:02 Doc22 ok
20:02 NekoGloop "whatever the fuck you want public liscence"
20:03 Doc22 lol
20:03 OldCoder Doc22, Hi!
20:03 Doc22 hey oldcoder
20:03 OldCoder I am updating things a bit ATM
20:03 Doc22 lol
20:03 OldCoder ?
20:04 Doc22 i lol too much
20:04 OldCoder k
20:04 Doc22 I need help...
20:04 OldCoder What help?
20:04 Doc22 (not really)
20:04 OldCoder State the issue
20:04 OldCoder Ah
20:04 Doc22 get it? (winks)
20:04 OldCoder No
20:04 OldCoder <--- literal
20:04 OldCoder I do not get it
20:05 Doc22 like when peopple say "you need help....."
20:05 OldCoder Yes?
20:05 Doc22 hrmmm
20:05 Doc22 i need to not lol so much
20:05 OldCoder k
20:05 Doc22 haha
20:05 Doc22 funny
20:05 OldCoder ?
20:05 Doc22 (why is that funny to me)
20:05 OldCoder I don't know
20:05 Doc22 i am so crazy
20:05 OldCoder nah
20:06 OldCoder Wild and Crazy Guy
20:06 OldCoder I guess that is old now
20:06 Doc22 having adhd my head always feels like windows feels when the desktop is completely filled with icons
20:07 Doc22 thoughts buzz all over
20:07 OldCoder Crowded
20:07 Doc22 i cant concentrate on homework
20:07 OldCoder I know a woman...
20:07 OldCoder She has icons on icons on icons
20:07 OldCoder Is it like that?
20:07 Doc22 lolololol
20:07 Doc22 nah its just like when i focus on something i dont like
20:07 Doc22 i have trouble
20:07 OldCoder And?
20:07 Doc22 because my thoughts change
20:08 OldCoder All right
20:08 Doc22 but when its something i enjoy
20:08 Doc22 or i see that it has a big purpose
20:08 OldCoder Better then?
20:08 Doc22 i have no problems
20:08 Doc22 yah
20:08 Doc22 yeah*
20:08 OldCoder k
20:09 NekoGloop http://imageshack.us/g/1/9855697/ Before and after encrusting images.
20:09 Doc22 looks good
20:10 NekoGloop wear transfers as well.
20:10 Doc22 nice
20:10 NekoGloop < should have done thatbut oh well.
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20:10 NekoGloop Makes it so you dont magically repair your tool with the gem encrusting.
20:10 Doc22 how do you make a new machine
20:10 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am trying to reconcile T_A_N_K patch and different versions
20:10 NekoGloop oh?
20:10 OldCoder babyface1031, hi
20:10 OldCoder And build everything
20:10 NekoGloop this isnt a technic machine.
20:10 OldCoder For both Linux and Windows
20:10 babyface1031 hi
20:10 Doc22 i mean gui for a block
20:10 Doc22 :P
20:11 Doc22 lol
20:11 NekoGloop Doc22: I see.
20:11 Doc22 i say things i dont mean
20:11 NekoGloop It's a bit complicated.
20:11 Doc22 hey babyface
20:11 Doc22 ok
20:11 Doc22 are you going to post the mod
20:11 Doc22 if so then ill just look at the mod
20:11 NekoGloop as a redone gems mod, yes.
20:11 Doc22 ok
20:11 Doc22 awesome
20:11 NekoGloop btw, crafting of the jeweler's table:
20:12 NekoGloop AAA
20:12 NekoGloop WGW
20:12 NekoGloop WWW
20:12 NekoGloop A=Akalin Ingot, W=Wood, G=Any of the gems.
20:12 Doc22 kewl
20:12 Doc22 you should make it so that there are different ones for each gen
20:12 Doc22 gem
20:12 Doc22 and they have different stats
20:12 Doc22 or something
20:13 NekoGloop Nah, too overly-complex.
20:13 Doc22 lol
20:13 NekoGloop For both me and the player.
20:13 Doc22 heh heh
20:13 NekoGloop hm...
20:13 NekoGloop I like the default wood image...
20:13 Doc22 yeah
20:13 NekoGloop Should i keep that as my wood image?
20:13 Doc22 looks good
20:13 Doc22 yeah
20:13 Doc22 i like that one
20:14 NekoGloop alright.
20:14 Doc22 looks better than minecraft is all i can say
20:14 Doc22 and neko
20:14 NekoGloop tbh the two look pretty similar to me.
20:14 Doc22 when you want a break or you are done
20:14 Doc22 then play with me
20:14 Doc22 yeha
20:14 NekoGloop Doc22: I dont like animals though :l
20:14 Doc22 i like the mt one better though
20:14 Doc22 i took them out
20:15 Doc22 too annoying
20:15 Doc22 lol
20:15 Doc22 so no more annoyance
20:15 Doc22 :)
20:15 Doc22 :D
20:15 Doc22 :)
20:15 Doc22 :D
20:15 NekoGloop If you have an older version of gems mod, this version -will- break it.
20:15 Doc22 hrmmmmmm (NO BAD OCD)
20:15 Doc22 ok
20:16 Doc22 adhd + ocd
20:16 Doc22 wierd combo
20:16 NekoGloop yet common.
20:16 Doc22 lol
20:17 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZzZrcg :3
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20:19 Doc22 lol just read the symptoms of aspergers syndrome
20:19 Doc22 might have it...
20:19 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297
20:19 Doc22 but i control it and my ocd
20:19 Doc22 and the adhd
20:19 Doc22 for the most part
20:20 Doc22 whats wierd is that im a person with this
20:20 Doc22 looking at myself in 3rd person
20:20 Doc22 diagnosing myself...
20:20 iqualfragile doc22: no, you dont have it otherwise you would neither be in this chatroom nor say lol
20:20 Doc22 lol is a habit
20:20 NekoGloop aspergers?
20:21 Doc22 and i feel all the symptoms on that page
20:21 Doc22 but i control it
20:22 Doc22 and i have been having trouble coming up with sentences
20:22 Doc22 idk if i d
20:22 Doc22 do
20:22 Doc22 but if i do
20:22 Doc22 then i control the psycological things
20:23 Doc22 I heavily think about my thoughts (seems stupid) in third person
20:23 Doc22 maybe that is why I am still sociable
20:23 NekoGloop or maybe you are thinking too much.
20:23 Doc22 maybe
20:24 Doc22 whatever it is
20:24 Doc22 i feel the symptoms
20:24 Doc22 but i lock them away
20:24 Doc22 in the depths of my mind
20:24 Doc22 to haunt me forever
20:25 jin_xi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-consciousness mybe this?
20:25 jin_xi *a
20:26 Doc22 reading it
20:27 Doc22 so that explains why I feel embarrased when my dad sees me around girls...
20:29 OldCoder babyface1031, See lPM about gem mod
20:29 OldCoder <Doc22> to haunt me forever
20:29 OldCoder That's a long time
20:29 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X17i0K5gc3g&amp;feature=context-vrec
20:32 Doc22 .....
20:33 Doc22 does your mod have emeralds
20:33 Doc22 and rubys
20:33 Doc22 and sapphires
20:33 NekoGloop yes.
20:33 Doc22 awwww
20:33 NekoGloop and amethysts.
20:33 Doc22 i was making a texture
20:33 NekoGloop and topazes.
20:33 NekoGloop keep making it
20:33 rubenwardy My games first ever screenshot: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/first_game_screenshot.png
20:34 NekoGloop I'll be damned if i know where to start on that for my texture pack.
20:34 rubenwardy gtg
20:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, RealBadAngel, VanessaE, thexyz If anybody sees thexyz in core dev channel: I am attempting builds of the latest thexyz stuff. I also request he look at exporting to sqlite3 which does not seem to work.
20:34 OldCoder NekoGloop, gems are going into the worlds on the next restart
20:34 NekoGloop sweet.
20:34 Jordach rubenwardy - points for ms c++
20:35 NekoGloop points for windows.
20:35 Doc22 rubenwardy looks cool
20:35 NekoGloop My ore texture for the gems looks butt-ugly :P
20:36 OldCoder it will improve
20:36 rubenwardy bye
20:36 OldCoder Bye
20:36 jin_xi http://www.youtube.com/user/JMEMantzel this guy plays MT in real life
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20:37 jin_xi and now hes making a game about it
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20:39 Octupus Hola
20:39 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/Emerald_overlay.png
20:39 Doc22 emerald
20:39 Octupus cool
20:39 Doc22 use it if you want
20:39 Doc22 (nekogloop
20:39 Doc22 )
20:39 NekoGloop hrm...
20:39 NekoGloop personally i like what i have better :/
20:39 NekoGloop sorry.
20:39 Doc22 lol
20:39 Doc22 i dont care
20:40 Doc22 but i dont want to copy your ore
20:40 NekoGloop like old gems did? It had diamonds :P
20:41 Doc22 hrmmmmm
20:41 Doc22 lol
20:41 babyface1031 hi Octupus
20:41 Doc22 maybe i should make a birthstones mod
20:42 Doc22 with every birthstone
20:42 Octupus hello babyface1031
20:42 NekoGloop you'd still step on (every one of) my gems :P
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20:44 Octupus i miss cornernote
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20:55 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
20:55 Octupus Hello OldCoder
20:56 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
20:56 Octupus :D
20:57 Octupus hi babyface1031_
20:58 babyface1031_ hi
20:59 Octupus is the server up?
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21:02 babyface1031_ i think it is being updates
21:03 Octupus ok
21:03 Octupus :)
21:05 Octupus lalal hw
21:13 OldCoder 21:12:29: ERROR[main]: cannot open /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/technic/item_pickup.lua: No such file or directory
21:13 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^
21:14 Octupus OBAMA WOOT
21:14 Octupus MITT ROMNEY LOST :D
21:14 OldCoder Did he?
21:14 OldCoder O.K.
21:14 Kray ohne romney
21:15 Octupus didnt u see the election in the states OldCoder ?
21:15 OldCoder Too busy
21:15 Octupus :0
21:15 Octupus Obama won though :)
21:16 Octupus they were giving votes to mitt romney just because he was white
21:16 Octupus :l
21:16 OldCoder Yes
21:17 Octupus but he won by alot
21:17 OldCoder k
21:18 OldCoder Worlds are restarted
21:18 OldCoder Please test
21:18 OldCoder There may be problems related to gems, item pickup, or technic
21:18 OldCoder We need to check
21:19 Octupus ok :)
21:20 OldCoder I will return in a little while
21:20 Octupus adios for now
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21:55 Octupus WOoooo
21:55 Octupus Assassin Creed 3
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22:15 Doc22_ working on the birthstones mod
22:15 Doc22_ i got all the ores done
22:16 Doc22_ and the items
22:16 Doc22_ now i need blocks and picks...
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22:20 Doc22_ and generation...
22:21 Octupus BOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
22:26 Doc22_ thanks
22:26 Doc22_ what is your birthstone?
22:26 Doc22_ octupus
22:26 Octupus ?
22:26 Doc22_ what is your birthstone
22:26 Octupus whats a birthstone
22:27 Doc22_ its a stone for each month
22:27 Doc22_ ie if you were born on january
22:27 Octupus april
22:27 Octupus i dont remeber the name
22:27 Doc22_ ok then it is..,
22:27 Doc22_ ok then it is.. DIAMOND
22:27 Doc22_ like that
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22:28 Octupus k
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22:32 Doc22_ im happy with it so far
22:32 Doc22_ =)
22:32 babyface1031_ I cant mine mine D: yet
22:33 Doc22_ where
22:33 Doc22_ on a server?
22:34 babyface1031_ i am opal and in the gem mod it can be mined after -1024 and the world ends at -1000
22:35 Doc22_ what
22:35 Doc22_ hmmm
22:36 Doc22_ idk must be bugged
22:36 Doc22_ :/
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22:56 Taoki http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51311#p51311 Today's summary on the models & attachments code. Best news is that massive segmentation faults were fixed, and client attachments are working for the first time.
22:57 Uberi awesome, Taoki :)
22:57 Taoki Thanks
22:57 Uberi client attachments working completely?
22:57 NekoGloop Meow?
22:58 Taoki Uberi: Not quite. Bone attachments only work by half. Also, if the parent disconnects / disappears, attachments go to origin 0,0,0. Ither than that, they work completely
22:58 Uberi neat
23:00 Doc22_ Nekogloop
23:00 Doc22_ i made block textures
23:00 Doc22_ and ore textures
23:00 Doc22_ and item textures
23:00 Doc22_ for the birthstone mod
23:00 Doc22_ should i make pick
23:00 Doc22_ textues too
23:00 NekoGloop make whatever you like
23:00 Doc22_ idk if i want to make 12 more pick textures
23:00 Doc22_ do you think it would be worth it
23:01 NekoGloop 12 more of each tool.
23:01 NekoGloop Seems legit.
23:01 Doc22_ yeah...
23:01 Doc22_ lol
23:01 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297
23:01 Doc22_ nice
23:01 Doc22_ looking cool
23:35 Doc22_ got the blocks done and the recipes
23:35 Doc22_ phew
23:35 Doc22_ now ima enjoy it
23:35 Doc22_ :)
23:35 Doc22_ i could make my mod compatible with your mod
23:35 Doc22_ nekogloop
23:35 Doc22_ if you want
23:35 NekoGloop how?
23:35 NekoGloop by allowing -12- gems to be encrusted?
23:35 NekoGloop u crazy?
23:36 NekoGloop imagine the amount of things that would register!
23:36 Doc22_ oh my
23:36 Doc22_ ok
23:36 Doc22_ lol
23:36 Doc22_ i thought you had algorithm or something...
23:36 Doc22_ i make algorithm for my thing
23:36 Doc22_ that creates the textures
23:36 Doc22_ >:D
23:36 Doc22_ maybe
23:36 Doc22_ >:D
23:37 NekoGloop i have a set of overlays that create the textures for the tools, yes.
23:37 Doc22_ oh ok
23:37 NekoGloop gems_sword_topaz for example.
23:37 Doc22_ lol
23:37 Doc22_ i understand overlays
23:37 Doc22_ i use them in my mod
23:39 Doc22_ oh and nekogloop i made an algorithm for the registering as well
23:39 NekoGloop Had you looked at my code?
23:39 Doc22_ nope
23:40 Doc22_ just saying
23:40 * Doc22_ chuckles quietly
23:40 NekoGloop then that would be why this is old news to me :3
23:40 Doc22_ ok
23:40 * NekoGloop uses a registration for-loop.
23:40 Doc22_ lol
23:43 Doc22_ is anything wrong with my code? http://pastebin.com/t8vAKCg4
23:43 Doc22_ it wont add the recipes
23:43 Doc22_ nekogloop
23:43 Doc22_ http://pastebin.com/t8vAKCg4
23:43 Doc22_ wont work...
23:43 VanessaE hi all.
23:43 Doc22_ hey
23:44 VanessaE just stopping by for a few minutes
23:44 Uberi hi VanessaE
23:44 Doc22_ lol
23:44 NekoGloop Doc22_: check to make sure that you spelled everything right.
23:44 Doc22_ okay
23:45 NekoGloop You can condense a condenser in MC tekkit. XD
23:46 Doc22_ lol
23:47 VanessaE yeah but if you get the evaporator hot enough, will it evaporate? ;-)
23:48 NekoGloop ... evaporator?
23:48 Doc22_ IM SO STUPID
23:48 Doc22_ i forgot to save it
23:48 Doc22_ :P
23:48 VanessaE a condenser and evaporator are parts of an air conditioning system.  I was trying to be funny.
23:49 VanessaE EPIC FAIL. :-)\
23:49 Doc22_ D:
23:49 Octupus Hello VanessaE
23:49 VanessaE hey Uberi and Octupus btw :-)
23:49 Octupus :)
23:52 Doc22_ D:
23:52 Doc22_ unexpected symbol at line...
23:52 Doc22_ 256
23:52 Doc22_ (notepad
23:52 Octupus ok
23:52 Doc22_ )
23:52 OldCoder ?
23:52 Doc22_ oh i know
23:52 Octupus its )} to close a line
23:52 Doc22_ i paste into pastebin
23:52 Doc22_ it has lines
23:52 Octupus Hello OldCoder :)
23:52 Doc22_ hey Oldcoder
23:52 OldCoder Hi
23:52 Uberi hey OldCoder
23:52 OldCoder Uberi hello!
23:53 Octupus :)
23:53 VanessaE Something happened over the past few weeks that made people wake up, didn't it?  Obama gets re-elected, Marijuana is legalized in Colorado, Canada tones down the strictness of their copyright laws, celeron55 gives a few people push access to the mainstream repos, and a bunch more.  wow.
23:54 VanessaE did I wake up in an alternate universe or something? :-)
23:54 Uberi it's been a crazy time
23:54 Uberi but then, isn't it always?
23:54 VanessaE heh
23:54 NekoGloop VanessaE: welcome to 2150
23:55 VanessaE haha
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23:56 Octupus hello LandMine
23:56 Doc22_ it works
23:56 LandMine wassssup
23:56 Doc22_ now that i saved it....
23:56 Uberi o/ LandMine
23:56 LandMine doc i like your mod
23:56 LandMine its boss
23:56 Octupus YESSS
23:56 VanessaE ...
23:56 Octupus WEED IS LEGALIZED IN COLORADO WOOT
23:56 Octupus joke :)
23:56 LandMine your 13
23:56 VanessaE Octupus: yep.  good luck getting the feds to leave Coloradoans alone though.
23:56 LandMine you dont smoke lol
23:56 NekoGloop ban him... ban him... ban him...
23:56 LandMine why?
23:57 LandMine your the one being negative
23:57 Octupus dont be getting in ma grill :)
23:57 LandMine i already made up with everyone
23:57 * VanessaE charges up, just in case.
23:57 NekoGloop riiight.
23:57 Uberi oh man I can't believe they finally stopped wasting money on that
23:57 LandMine dont worry lol
23:57 Uberi VanessaE's firin' up the lazer!
23:57 Octupus Obama beat mitt romney woot
23:57 LandMine thats what i heard
23:57 VanessaE Uberi: well, in that state - that's only 1 of about 58 states/territories :-/
23:58 NekoGloop 56
23:58 LandMine NekoGloop how is that bot comming along :p
23:58 Uberi still, a penny saved is... something something something
23:58 VanessaE yup/
23:58 NekoGloop LandMine: deleted.
23:58 LandMine sure hehe
23:58 Octupus XD that guy in assassin creed 3 got ran over XD

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