Time  Nick          Message
00:00 NekoGloop     topaz is more known as an orange-yellow color
00:00 RealBadAngel  well, there are differnt kinds
00:00 NekoGloop     like this: http://www.agta.org/gemstones/images/topaz.jpg
00:00 RealBadAngel  nice indeed
00:00 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: going off the most commonly known color.
00:01 NekoGloop     There are orange sapphires :3
00:03 RealBadAngel  pick some colors for each one to make them disticnt
00:04 NekoGloop     I know
00:04 NekoGloop     Ruby = Red, Sapphire = Blue, Emerald = Green, Amethyst = Purple, Topaz = Orange
00:06 NekoGloop     Also with the new gems-weapon-encrusting-thing
00:06 NekoGloop     Textures need not be done one-by-one
00:06 NekoGloop     You simply create an overlay for pickaxe, sword, axe, and shovel
00:09 RealBadAngel  i could make energy crystals out of them
00:09 RealBadAngel  instead of dying the diamond blocks
00:09 NekoGloop     Battery surrounded by the respective gem?
00:09 NekoGloop     sounds good to me
00:09 RealBadAngel  way better idea than dyes
00:09 NekoGloop     yep
00:10 NekoGloop     since dye system sux :3
00:10 NekoGloop     btw: naming system of said overlays is like so: gems_<tool>_<gem>
00:11 NekoGloop     Steel, Silver, and Mithril are encrustable, like in the normal gems mod
00:11 NekoGloop     er.
00:11 NekoGloop     s/silver/gold
00:11 NekoGloop     Would you like me to add silver and bronze?
00:12 RealBadAngel  if you wish
00:13 NekoGloop     hm...
00:13 NekoGloop     config option for each one?
00:13 NekoGloop     including gloopores?
00:14 NekoGloop     obviously wood and stone would be excluded; encrusting nonmetals is no.
00:18 NekoGloop     I keep thinking it's spelled "amythst"
00:24 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: how should each gem affect the encrusted tool?
00:25 RealBadAngel  have no idea really
00:25 NekoGloop     ha.
00:25 NekoGloop     Well, each one alters the durability and speed.
00:26 NekoGloop     For better or worse.
00:26 RealBadAngel  think of adding something like luck
00:26 RealBadAngel  or silk touch
00:26 NekoGloop     hm...
00:27 NekoGloop     not possible for silk touch.
00:27 NekoGloop     s/not/very/
00:27 NekoGloop     dafuq did my fingers type.
00:27 RealBadAngel  why not possible?
00:27 NekoGloop     > s/not/very/
00:28 RealBadAngel  about luck: you could line them up from worst to the best one
00:29 RealBadAngel  give each one higher % level
00:29 NekoGloop     hm...
00:29 NekoGloop     on_dignode
00:29 RealBadAngel  and with given propability double the mining output
00:29 NekoGloop     incompatible with item_drop
00:29 NekoGloop     etc.
00:29 RealBadAngel  i think it could be done
00:30 RealBadAngel  just overwrite node_dig
00:30 RealBadAngel  copy the main routine, re register it with changes
00:30 NekoGloop     you do the magic. my code is too shitty.
00:30 RealBadAngel  hold on a sec
00:31 Dogzilla131   hey what does uranium do
00:31 NekoGloop     Dogzilla131: nothing ATM
00:32 RealBadAngel  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest#L273
00:33 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: dude
00:33 NekoGloop     specify a -file- when you link to a line in github.
00:33 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, it does somethin, jordach made reactor out of coal generator :)
00:33 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: only burns up the uranium
00:33 NekoGloop     doesnt produce power.
00:33 RealBadAngel  it does, its just not registered
00:34 NekoGloop     did you update my awesomesauce API function?
00:34 RealBadAngel  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/item.lua
00:34 RealBadAngel  line 273
00:34 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel:
00:34 RealBadAngel  theres node_dig
00:34 NekoGloop     https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/item.lua#L273
00:35 RealBadAngel  my browser is just stupid
00:35 NekoGloop     That is how one links to a line in a github area.
00:35 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: Obviously, it's not a windows program.
00:35 RealBadAngel  i just said iceweasel is worth shit
00:35 RealBadAngel  nvm
00:36 RealBadAngel  look for check of wielded item
00:36 RealBadAngel  add your checks for ecrusted tools here
00:36 NekoGloop     nope.
00:36 NekoGloop     < doesnt like overriding builtin functions.
00:36 RealBadAngel  and you can have luck and silk touch too
00:37 RealBadAngel  code is not about likeing. it has to work
00:38 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=pA5PGVMHhQI&NR=1 tetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetotetoteto
00:38 RealBadAngel  if you do your code here, all stuff like item_drop will work with it
00:38 NekoGloop     < knows something will not work
00:39 RealBadAngel  you have to take care of this:
00:39 RealBadAngel  local wielded = digger:get_wielded_item()
00:39 RealBadAngel  local drops = minetest.get_node_drops(node.name, wielded:get_name())
00:39 NekoGloop     nope.
00:40 RealBadAngel  if wielded == encrusted then call your own node_drops
00:40 NekoGloop     no.
00:40 RealBadAngel  if you are scared.....
00:40 RealBadAngel  chicken :P
00:40 NekoGloop     not scared.
00:40 NekoGloop     i am just certain it will be "shit"
00:41 RealBadAngel  nah, just chicken
00:42 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:42 NekoGloop     Names correspond to the figures below
00:42 NekoGloop     lower speed multiplier == better
00:42 NekoGloop     higher wear multiplier == better
00:42 steampunkey   can't connect anywhere...
00:42 steampunkey   lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:43 NekoGloop     steampunkey: ?
00:43 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:43 NekoGloop     dont comment on something if you do not know what is being discussed ^^"
00:43 steampunkey   NekoGloop: it just hangs at connecting to srv
00:43 NekoGloop     steampunkey: i dont give a fuck.
00:44 NekoGloop     no, not really.
00:44 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: http://pastebin.com/SkpNi6NL
00:44 Lumpio-       Now now, let's be polite
00:44 steampunkey   NekoGloop: ditto for your rules
00:44 NekoGloop     Lumpio-: that's rich coming from you.
00:44 steampunkey   vote to kick NekoGloop
00:44 OldCoder      Hmm
00:44 OldCoder      I promised to finish some network code elsewhere
00:45 OldCoder      Could this wait half an hour?
00:45 Lumpio-       I'm always completely serious and polite.
00:45 RealBadAngel  http://pastebin.com/J3RYpcN8
00:45 NekoGloop     steampunkey: pls go, griefer.
00:45 OldCoder      Yin and Yang
00:45 OldCoder      Together again
00:45 OldCoder      Sorry
00:45 OldCoder      That was too flip
00:45 NekoGloop     I can tell from his attitude he is a griefer.
00:45 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: no.
00:45 OldCoder      Wait until there is a reason
00:45 OldCoder      That is orderly
00:45 steampunkey   NekoGloop: you can tell crap
00:45 NekoGloop     steampunkey: I can tell you know me.
00:46 steampunkey   fail again
00:46 OldCoder      NekoGloop, he gets angry because you're exercising control
00:46 NekoGloop     I'm not.
00:46 steampunkey   but I know you are somebody stupid
00:46 OldCoder      You called him a griefer
00:46 OldCoder      ATM what is the need?
00:46 NekoGloop     I can tell from the fact he thought i was talking to him regardless of the fact he just logged on
00:46 OldCoder      Yes
00:47 NekoGloop     griefers -always- think the world is revolving around them.
00:47 OldCoder      But nothing is happening ATM. Is it crucial that you assert yourself? Or that he does?
00:47 steampunkey   NekoGloop: i have mistaken you tagging me and saying "?" for interest. perhaps my immediate thought should've been a million monkeys and a million typewriters?
00:47 NekoGloop     It is crucial that he learn that other people use IRC
00:48 NekoGloop     and not just for talking to him.
00:48 OldCoder      All right
00:48 OldCoder      Where do you go with that?
00:48 steampunkey   <NekoGloop> steampunkey: ?
00:48 NekoGloop     <steampunkey> lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:49 OldCoder      O.K.
00:49 NekoGloop     I was wondering what the hell you meant.
00:49 steampunkey   NekoGloop: dude just gtfo
00:49 NekoGloop     general rule of IRC: if you havent said anything yet, they arent talking to you.
00:49 steampunkey   <NekoGloop> steampunkey: i dont give a fuck.
00:50 NekoGloop     steampunkey: I would be rich if i had a dime for every time i read those four letters out of this IRC channel.
00:50 steampunkey   NekoGloop: General rule of any conversation: People may or may not join and/or leave the conversation
00:50 steampunkey   NekoGloop: perhaps you should take a hint?
00:50 * Lumpio-     gloops NekoGloop
00:50 NekoGloop     steampunkey: if they know what is being talked about and can possibly understand what is being discussed?
00:51 NekoGloop     Lumpio-: fuck off.
00:51 OldCoder      NekoGloop, you are in fact orderly tonight. But is there more to say?
00:51 steampunkey   NekoGloop: not necessarily
00:51 Lumpio-       (ﾉ´∀｀*)
00:51 NekoGloop     steampunkey: the one needing to be kicked is you
00:51 steampunkey   NekoGloop: cussed twice to two people since i joined
00:51 steampunkey   OldCoder:
00:52 OldCoder      Yes
00:52 OldCoder      No kicks are needed yet
00:52 NekoGloop     there was an intelligent conversation before you joined
00:52 OldCoder      And I'll probably go with mute
00:52 steampunkey   NekoGloop: why, because i resent people cussing for no apparent reason?
00:52 OldCoder      NekoGloop, why is this discussion taking place?
00:52 OldCoder      That is a fair question
00:52 NekoGloop     steampunkey: there was an intelligent conversation before you joined.
00:53 NekoGloop     OldCoder: [19:43] == steampunkey [4e868e03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.134.142.3] has joined #minetest [19:43] <NekoGloop> lower speed multiplier == better [19:43] <NekoGloop> higher wear multiplier == better [19:43] <steampunkey> can't connect anywhere... [19:43] <steampunkey> lower speed multiplier == higher wear multiplier
00:53 NekoGloop     this ^
00:53 OldCoder      Reading
00:53 steampunkey   NekoGloop: that's how == operator works
00:53 OldCoder      All right
00:53 steampunkey   it's a joke
00:53 NekoGloop     not adding anything important to the conversation.
00:53 steampunkey   now re-read your reaction
00:53 OldCoder      But also
00:53 OldCoder      Overreacting
00:53 OldCoder      Medium is best
00:53 OldCoder      On both sides
00:53 OldCoder      It is not
00:53 OldCoder      surrendering Order
00:53 steampunkey   o.O
00:53 NekoGloop     I can see that this channel -still- is not accepting me as a welcome prescence.
00:54 NekoGloop     steampunkey: he types with lines a lot.
00:54 steampunkey   NekoGloop: try not telling people you've just met off, for starters
00:54 NekoGloop     steampunkey: I dont.
00:54 OldCoder      NekoGloop, you are more than accepted
00:54 NekoGloop     I tell people who interrupt intelligent conversation off :3
00:54 OldCoder      NekoGloop, You are interesting and intelligent
00:55 OldCoder      NekoGloop, that may be wrong
00:55 steampunkey   NekoGloop: then I diagnosed your problem, it's delusion
00:55 NekoGloop     people with delusions are generally good coders :3
00:55 steampunkey   NekoGloop: you really ought to take a course in propositional logic. You wouldn't make the == mistake, nor would you assert a false dichotomy between interrupters and people you've just met
00:55 NekoGloop     Or at least good people to go to for ideas :3
00:56 NekoGloop     steampunkey: what mistake.
00:56 NekoGloop     I know what the operator means.
00:56 steampunkey   The one you didn't understand
00:56 NekoGloop     I've done enough LUA coding.
00:56 NekoGloop     I think i know what == means.
00:56 NekoGloop     And its difference from =
00:57 steampunkey   A=B & B=C => A=C
00:57 NekoGloop     A is set to B and B is set to C greater than or equal to A is set to C
00:57 NekoGloop     Code is invalid.
00:58 steampunkey   it's transitivity
00:58 steampunkey   as i've said, take a course in logic
00:58 OldCoder      Actually you both seem logical
00:59 OldCoder      Just with different assumptions
00:59 steampunkey   NekoGloop: https://www.coursera.org/course/intrologic
00:59 OldCoder      Yeah, that's going to calm him down :p
00:59 steampunkey   Good OldCoder trying desperately to diffuse the situation ;-)
00:59 OldCoder      Desperate?
00:59 OldCoder      I am focused elsewhere
00:59 NekoGloop     what is the point of me doing a course in something below me?
00:59 OldCoder      And this one is interesting
01:00 OldCoder      You two aren't that far apart ATM
01:00 steampunkey   Oh now I understand, I was looking for #minetest, not #nojokes
01:00 steampunkey   hi
01:00 NekoGloop     steampunkey: yeah, gtfo.
01:00 steampunkey   can't connect anywhere...
01:01 NekoGloop     steampunkey: try using a valid username.
01:01 NekoGloop     try getting a better internet connection.
01:01 OldCoder      ?
01:01 NekoGloop     try actually giving us information that may help us debug.
01:01 OldCoder      Is there a dispute here?
01:01 NekoGloop     OldCoder: no.
01:01 OldCoder      All right
01:01 OldCoder      Never mind, then
01:02 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: better?
01:02 NekoGloop     ... what?
01:02 NekoGloop     as if we need a third neko? ;)
01:03 NekoPametahn  anyway, why can't i connect? :-/
01:03 NekoPametahn  c55.me, 30000 - no go
01:03 NekoGloop     that server is down
01:03 NekoPametahn  tsundere.fi?
01:04 NekoGloop     tsundere lol
01:04 NekoPametahn  ?
01:04 NekoGloop     oh that's a server?
01:04 NekoGloop     XD
01:05 NekoGloop     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere XD
01:05 OldCoder      What about my servers?
01:05 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, try OpenMine
01:05 OldCoder      Server minetest.org
01:05 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: minetest.org:30007
01:05 NekoGloop     I think
01:05 OldCoder      Yes
01:05 OldCoder      Try it
01:05 OldCoder      PilzAdam world is now open too
01:05 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: cannot connect
01:05 OldCoder      Checking and excuse me
01:06 OldCoder      Looks O.K.
01:06 OldCoder      Trying myself
01:06 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: minetest.org works, just not tsundere? Also, why aren't you Kray?
01:06 OldCoder      I don't understand
01:06 NekoGloop     who's Kray?
01:06 NekoPametahn  I thought you said tsundere.fi was yours
01:06 NekoPametahn  tsundere.fi == kray.dy.fi
01:06 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: he was proposing you try his servers.
01:07 NekoGloop     not claiming the server.
01:07 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: unsupported nodebox version
01:07 NekoPametahn  got one without addons?
01:07 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: latest git?
01:08 NekoPametahn  latest tar
01:08 NekoGloop     latest git is backwards-incompatible.
01:08 NekoGloop     latest tar? you mean github's tarball?
01:08 NekoPametahn  darnit again?
01:08 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: i think so
01:08 NekoGloop     yeah, OldCoder has a build.
01:08 NekoGloop     Windows?
01:08 NekoGloop     Or Debian?
01:09 NekoPametahn  yeah this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tarball/master
01:09 NekoGloop     What OS do you use?
01:09 OldCoder      I will rebuild tonight
01:09 OldCoder      If the discussion here doesn't get out of hand and use up the time
01:09 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: how did you guess my distro?
01:09 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: lucky guess.
01:10 OldCoder      Debian is pretty common for MT
01:10 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: it's not from the packages though
01:10 NekoGloop     luckier for you because OC has a build for it.
01:10 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: oh? how come?
01:10 OldCoder      Hmm?
01:10 NekoPametahn  how come it's common?
01:10 * OldCoder    thinks
01:11 OldCoder      I don't know why Debian is popular. But I've noticed that it and related distros seem to be the focus here.
01:11 OldCoder      Debian and Ubuntu mainly
01:11 OldCoder      But I could be wrong
01:11 OldCoder      We've had others, certainly
01:11 NekoGloop     I wonder, were there any other big-time griefers like LM before him?
01:11 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: what did you base your guess on?
01:11 NekoGloop     Maybe not to his extent but somewhat similar?
01:11 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: nothing
01:11 OldCoder      NekoGloop, does it matter ATM?
01:11 NekoPametahn  is LM LandMine?
01:11 NekoGloop     was asking because OC has a MT build.
01:12 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: yes.
01:12 NekoGloop     OldCoder: curious.
01:12 NekoPametahn  he used to behave on tsundere most of the time
01:12 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: now he shuts down servers as a hobby.
01:12 NekoPametahn  drove out a heavy builder though. built himself a castle right on the path built by the guy. guy couldn't get over it
01:13 OldCoder      Curious about what?
01:13 OldCoder      Wait
01:13 NekoGloop     OldCoder: just curious.
01:14 OldCoder      Did something happen on tsundere that was signficant?
01:14 NekoGloop     was there a griefer before LandMine?
01:14 OldCoder      Or if not, at around that time
01:14 OldCoder      I wasn't here so I couldn't say
01:14 RealBadAngel  jeez, looks like i got github with GUI workin here at last
01:14 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, you looked at that page?
01:14 RealBadAngel  yup, picked one
01:14 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: what, reinstalled windows? :3
01:14 * VanessaE    peeks in
01:14 OldCoder      VanessaE, Hi!
01:14 RealBadAngel  Hi VanessaE
01:14 NekoGloop     VanessaE: embrace the grand mighty chaos! :D
01:14 VanessaE      hi all.
01:14 NekoPametahn  whois NekoGloop
01:15 NekoGloop     whois fail ^
01:15 RealBadAngel  lol
01:15 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, got linux client for it
01:15 NekoGloop     :3
01:16 NekoPametahn  msg NickServ identify 1Nb49100P
01:16 VanessaE      that password looks like a type of diode or something. "=_
01:16 VanessaE      :-)
01:16 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: having problems with your / key?
01:16 RealBadAngel  rotfl
01:17 NekoPametahn  VanessaE: wouldn't know. my electronics is titanic rusty
01:17 NekoGloop     how do you remember something like that.
01:18 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: topaz looks like a c-sectioned orange XD
01:18 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: afai'm concerned, practice. Repetito est mater studiorum. Everything else evaporates.
01:19 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: so you have any other srvs or what?
01:19 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, they are listed at:
01:19 OldCoder      http://minetest.org/
01:20 NekoPametahn  why are there 3 MT servers lists? unify
01:20 OldCoder      There are not three lists
01:20 OldCoder      There is just one
01:20 OldCoder      The other lists are for mods
01:20 NekoGloop     there is xyz's
01:20 OldCoder      They are modset descriptions
01:20 NekoGloop     OldCoder: he means in total.
01:21 OldCoder      I don't follow
01:21 OldCoder      There is only one server list
01:21 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: these are specifically -his- servers.
01:21 NekoGloop     OldCoder: and xyz's?
01:21 OldCoder      No
01:21 OldCoder      Just me
01:21 NekoGloop     OldCoder: servers.minetest.ri
01:21 NekoGloop     ru
01:21 NekoGloop     what do you call thaT?
01:21 NekoGloop     http://servers.minetest.ru
01:22 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: you run 13 srvs!? You have way too much CPU cycles on your hands.
01:22 NekoGloop     So much for LM's claim to the highest uptime on the servers list :3
01:23 NekoPametahn  can't connect to the first one on your list, NekoGloop
01:23 NekoGloop     me?
01:23 NekoGloop     not my list :P
01:23 NekoPametahn  my bad, wrong port
01:23 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: try using a different build
01:24 NekoPametahn  "unsupported NodeBox version" again
01:24 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: http://minetest.org/clients/ocminetest-debian-20121020.deb
01:24 OldCoder
01:24 NekoPametahn  i compiled already :-/
01:24 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, they are largely inactive
01:24 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: and that client is incompatible with old servers.
01:24 OldCoder      The NodeBox issue is known
01:25 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: what is it?
01:25 OldCoder      It will go away
01:25 OldCoder      It is what NekoGloop said
01:25 OldCoder      If you build with new sources
01:25 OldCoder      It won't work with older servers
01:25 OldCoder      I can give you sources that should work
01:25 RealBadAngel  it just looked like i have git GUI
01:25 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: isn't anyone running edge?
01:25 OldCoder      I will be soon
01:25 OldCoder      Maybe tonight
01:25 RealBadAngel  it connects, etc but i cant see any files
01:26 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, ?
01:26 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: same problem here
01:26 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, try one of the others
01:26 NekoGloop     github is a piece of shit.
01:26 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: I'm not running your binaries, tywm
01:26 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: compared to?
01:26 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: omploader.
01:26 OldCoder      tywm?
01:26 RealBadAngel  shit it took me half an hour to get newer Java, generate SSH keys etc to got this working
01:26 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, I am referring to source code
01:27 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: s/w/v/
01:27 OldCoder      I don't follow
01:27 OldCoder      If you wish source code compatible with the servers out there
01:27 OldCoder      I can provide that
01:27 NekoPametahn  RealBadAngel: Java?
01:28 RealBadAngel  yes, SmartGit is written using Java
01:28 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: why are celeron's incompatible?
01:28 RealBadAngel  so had to install Java 7
01:29 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: you're missing the point of using versioning controll. But then, so am I.
01:29 RealBadAngel  tried two github interfaces and both are not working
01:29 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: there is no point
01:29 RealBadAngel  tried SmartGit and gitg
01:29 NekoGloop     no imi :3 (no meaning in japanese)
01:29 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: why?
01:30 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: because "git commit git pull git push" is retardly monotonous.
01:30 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, the new ones have changed formats
01:30 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, it is not a problem
01:30 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, the servers and clients will catch up
01:30 NekoGloop     Now I'm confused :/
01:31 NekoGloop     How am I to be sure there isnt a mis-tab?
01:31 NekoGloop     And you are talking to him instead of me, or me instead of him?
01:31 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: 2 distinct discussion threads here. As for ours, what would you like git upload git apply git throw git catch git drop?
01:32 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: i would like git upload
01:32 NekoPametahn  OldCoder: but isn't any server running the latest?
01:32 OldCoder      NekoPametahn, Nope apparently. But I may fix that
01:32 OldCoder      Tonight or tomorrow
01:32 OldCoder      All of mine may switch
01:33 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: you may want different commits, eg one for one thing, the other for the other thing (if eg. they're unrelated). that's why there's commit. push is like upload
01:33 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: that and there's no help file?
01:33 NekoGloop     so how the hell am i to know what to do?
01:33 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: tbh, i have no idea how to use help, i use man
01:34 NekoGloop     ?
01:34 NekoPametahn  or info
01:34 NekoPametahn  if that's not what you meant, I don't know what you did mean
01:34 NekoGloop     how am i supposed to know the functions i have to use?
01:35 NekoPametahn  i see there's man git, and info git
01:35 NekoGloop     CLI is retarded and outdated.
01:35 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: from Git Shell in windows? haha you funny.
01:35 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: Show me a visual programming language, I dare you
01:35 RealBadAngel  its 21st century
01:35 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: Game Maker Language.
01:35 NekoGloop     :3
01:35 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: You use Windows? Well there's your problem.
01:35 RealBadAngel  i dont have to type all the type
01:36 RealBadAngel  time
01:36 NekoGloop     NekoPametahn: haha you funny
01:36 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: anyway i'm sure you can find man pages online
01:36 RealBadAngel  thats why GUI is made for
01:36 NekoGloop     Linux doesnt even load, you expect me to use such pieces of crap?
01:36 NekoPametahn  NekoGloop: do you even lift?
01:36 NekoGloop     lift?
01:37 NekoPametahn  nvm. you said something that doesn't make sense, so i did too
01:37 NekoGloop     What did i say that didnt make sense?
01:37 Pavee         (easer for other people)
01:37 Pavee         NekoGloop: it doesn't load? What?
01:37 NekoGloop     Yep.
01:37 Pavee         -_-
01:38 Pavee         "yep"
01:38 NekoGloop     Such pieces of crap like Linux dont work.
01:38 Pavee         lol
01:38 Pavee         dude servers run on Linux+GNU
01:38 NekoGloop     Something like... opensource == people know how to hack it easier?
01:38 Pavee         US stock market does
01:38 M13           hello
01:38 NekoGloop     herro M13
01:38 Pavee         Android phones
01:38 NekoGloop     Pavee: those also dont work for me.
01:39 NekoGloop     :P
01:39 M13           has anyone made a Minetest-Edu??
01:39 NekoGloop     M13: >?
01:39 NekoGloop     ?
01:39 Pavee         NekoGloop: you're also connecting from webchat, i bet it uses Linux+GNU
01:39 Pavee         Google does too
01:39 Pavee         etc
01:39 NekoGloop     Pavee: would explain why it's crap
01:39 NekoGloop     same with google.
01:39 Pavee         Sure
01:40 NekoGloop     You arent proving any points i didnt know =)
01:40 Pavee         ¬.¬
01:40 NekoGloop     Pavee: did you know webchat lacks an /ignore?
01:40 Pavee         meh, off to play #teeworlds then
01:40 M13           umm... Minetest_edu a Minetest for schools :P
01:40 NekoGloop     M13: explain
01:40 NekoGloop     how would it be different? :P
01:41 M13           Well my Schoiol teacher (For technology) was going to make a server for Minecraft-Edu (minecraft for Schools) but I asked if I could Make A minetest-edu for the school and he said yes!
01:41 OldCoder      That is good
01:42 M13           so I made a MInetest=Edu
01:42 NekoGloop     how is minecraft-edu different from minecraft?
01:42 M13           And My teacher said I could Host a Server for the school]
01:42 M13           well idk
01:43 M13           butt... Minetest-Edu has no pvp or swords (No violence)
01:43 M13           and
01:43 NekoGloop     I see.
01:44 M13           I added Farming and dyes (For Science) and stuff like that (School stuff):P
01:44 RealBadAngel  well i guess mobs are renamed, to be teachers like
01:44 M13           I took mobs out too
01:44 M13           check it out : http://youngcoder.weebly.com
01:45 M13           my site ^
01:45 M13           itys on there
01:45 M13           source and all
01:47 NekoGloop     someone care to test my gems version? http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bA
01:47 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: ^
01:48 M13           going cyahall later :P
01:48 NekoGloop     oh look an error :P
01:48 NekoGloop     THIS one: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg
01:48 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: ^
01:49 NekoGloop     ... FUUUUUUUU
01:49 NekoGloop     damn errors.
01:50 NekoGloop     how the hell does one make table.insert work?!@
01:51 VanessaE      table.insert(tablename, "item to add")
01:51 VanessaE      e.g. table.insert(outimgs, "pipeworks_plain.png")
01:51 NekoGloop     well obviously that doesnt work.
01:51 VanessaE      works fine for me in pipeworks.
01:51 NekoGloop     attempt to call global "metalis" (a table value)
01:52 VanessaE      (see pipeworks/init.lua in the code block that starts at line 136)
01:52 NekoGloop     strangely it errors at this line though: "for i,l in gems do"
01:52 NekoGloop     not the ones having anything to do with metalis :P
01:52 NekoGloop     VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg fix it Dx
01:53 VanessaE      no :-)
01:54 M13           What happened to cornernote???
01:54 VanessaE      I have my eyes on something far more important than coding right now.
01:54 VanessaE      M13: ask thexyz.
01:54 NekoGloop     M13: he asked for it.
01:54 NekoGloop     literally.
01:55 NekoGloop     Anyone know what the function for porting a table to a string is?
01:55 M13           is there a way I can connect to my VPS inbrowser???
01:55 VanessaE      I think it's just dump(tablename) isn't it?
01:55 NekoGloop     I'll try
01:55 VanessaE      there's some API function to help with that anyway
01:57 NekoGloop     ...?
01:57 NekoGloop     metalis is not a table value
01:57 NekoGloop     it is a string...
01:57 VanessaE      well that's a start :)
01:57 NekoGloop     then again, why is it even trying to call it?
01:58 M13           is there a way I can connect to my VPS inbrowser???
01:58 M13           please help ^^
01:58 VanessaE      M13: probably not.
01:58 VanessaE      unless you run a webserver on your VPS
01:58 M13           I mean ssh
01:58 VanessaE      just use the command line for that
01:58 VanessaE      I'd have to say that a web browser is guaranteed to be less secure
01:59 M13           Im on a xbox :P
01:59 VanessaE      ohh
01:59 VanessaE      probably not then
01:59 VanessaE      ssh is a specific protocol
01:59 M13           dammit !
01:59 VanessaE      unless xbox supports it, you're hosed.
01:59 NekoGloop     windows 8 on an xbox.
01:59 NekoGloop     :3
01:59 M13           nope I saw some inbrowser ssh clients but none work
02:00 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg fix it Dx
02:00 M13           serfish works but the catcha keeps fuicking up
02:00 NekoGloop     is that a captcha with images of cats?
02:01 M13           images
02:01 VanessaE      M13: I HIGHLY ADVISE that you log in from your regular PC/command line and change your VPS password(s) at your first available opportunity
02:01 M13           Why???
02:01 VanessaE      any web server you try to pipe through to get to your VPS can record your keystrokes.\
02:02 VanessaE      so unless you have only used one that you know FOR A FACT is safe, you're putting your VPS at risk.
02:02 M13           I didnt egt to the password login
02:02 VanessaE      ok
02:02 VanessaE      then you're fine.
02:02 NekoGloop     attempt to call field "?" (a nil value)
02:02 NekoGloop     THE. FUCK.
02:02 VanessaE      NekoGloop: you suck. :-)
02:02 M13           nekogloop
02:02 NekoGloop     M13: ?
02:02 M13           are you working this from scratch??
02:02 NekoGloop     you could say so
02:03 M13           ok so your tring to do what?? I can help
02:03 NekoGloop     I am working it from a previous rewrite of the gems code, which was in turn created from scratch.
02:03 OldCoder      M13, you can use a ssh client written in JS
02:03 NekoGloop     M13: you can access pastebin?
02:03 M13           what OldCodeR??
02:03 OldCoder      http://lifehacker.com/5783594/firessh-is-a-browser-based-ssh-client-written-entirely-in-javascript
02:03 M13           yes nekogloop
02:04 M13           brb
02:04 OldCoder      NekoGloop, you've had a rough few days. How are you doing?
02:04 NekoGloop     OldCoder: this is relevant how?
02:04 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/S7ZvxfLU
02:04 OldCoder      NekoGloop, relevant to what?
02:04 NekoGloop     OldCoder: the code being stupid.
02:04 OldCoder      And I'm too tired for pastebin ATM
02:05 OldCoder      It is not relevant to the code
02:05 VanessaE      "..I think of something completely different." "like, if you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?"
02:05 NekoGloop     VanessaE: blue-er.
02:05 VanessaE      purple :)
02:06 NekoGloop     haha.
02:06 NekoGloop     alatro? :3
02:06 OldCoder      I haven't seen Octupus today. If anybody bumps into him, I'd like him to know I appreciated a gift that he sent me. It was a new small MT world.
02:06 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, fix what there?
02:06 OldCoder      I may put it up on a server
02:06 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: attempt to call "metalis" (a table value)
02:07 * VanessaE    looks at the current US election results and starts to worry
02:07 NekoGloop     VanessaE: why?
02:08 Pavee         VanessaE: how are they doing?
02:08 VanessaE      NekoGloop: my reasons are offtopic for this channel.
02:08 NekoGloop     Each of the candidates is gonna fuck up the country somehow.
02:08 VanessaE      Pavee: rMoney is leading right now :(
02:08 NekoGloop     VanessaE: when is the channel -on-topic?
02:08 VanessaE      NekoGloop: about two minutes ago? :-)
02:08 Pavee         i don't know why i asked. either way it's gonna be bad
02:09 NekoGloop     when we were actively doing nothing?
02:09 NekoGloop     Why dont for-loops error at the line that errors *facepalm*
02:12 NekoGloop     this makes no sense.
02:12 NekoGloop     the is no errorneous code.
02:15 VanessaE      look for the classic missing commas, etc.
02:15 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: made any sense of it yet?
02:15 NekoGloop     VanessaE: That isnt relevant to the error though.
02:15 NekoGloop     i never type any of the metals entries.
02:15 NekoGloop     all of those are handled by table.insert
02:15 VanessaE      you'd be surprised what is and is not relevant, neko :-)
02:16 NekoGloop     does table.insert forget commas? ;)
02:16 VanessaE      Lua has a funny way of deciding what is and is not relevant ;-)
02:16 NekoGloop     just look at it.
02:16 NekoGloop     there is nothing wrong with it.
02:16 VanessaE      pastebin it :-)
02:17 VanessaE      I ain't looking at an ompldr link
02:17 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/BwqbkeXg
02:17 NekoGloop     current error is at line 140
02:18 NekoGloop     attempt to concatenate global "metalis" (a nil value)
02:18 NekoGloop     or excuse me, not that.
02:19 NekoGloop     at line 150, it says "attempt to call global "metalis" (a table value)"
02:19 VanessaE      metals[x] is a one-dimensional array...why are you stepping through it with j,k then?
02:19 VanessaE      shouldn't you be doing for j in ipairs(metals) do ...  >
02:19 VanessaE      ?
02:19 NekoGloop     j = id, k = value
02:20 NekoGloop     metals is set up like {1 = "", 2 = ""}
02:20 NekoGloop     Dont ask me, but it works.
02:20 VanessaE      yeah but you aren't giving them ids :-)
02:20 VanessaE      table.insert(metals,"steel")
02:20 VanessaE      table.insert(metals,"bronze")
02:20 VanessaE      wetc.
02:20 VanessaE      etc.
02:20 NekoGloop     print(dump(metals))
02:20 NekoGloop     returns it in the form i stated.
02:21 VanessaE      either I'm overlooking it or you are not putting the values into the table with actual key id's.
02:21 VanessaE      you're just putting them in as an unkeyed list
02:21 VanessaE      (whatever the correct terminology is)
02:21 NekoGloop     alright fine
02:21 NekoGloop     removing k from the for
02:21 VanessaE      well that'll fail too, because you use k later
02:22 NekoGloop     fixing those as well
02:22 VanessaE      ok
02:22 RealBadAngel  ive already removed k
02:22 RealBadAngel  fighting with it
02:22 NekoGloop     same error
02:22 NekoGloop     the k couldnt have been the problem
02:23 NekoGloop     it worked fine before implementation of the table.inserts
02:23 VanessaE      ditto for the i,l in gems --- don't you mean for i in ipairs(gems)  ?
02:23 RealBadAngel  03:22:55: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:143: attempt to index global 'pickdef' (a nil value)
02:23 RealBadAngel  whats it?
02:23 NekoGloop     and then it was simply {"steel", "gold", "mithril"}
02:23 VanessaE      150.  for i,l in gems do  <-- this can't work
02:23 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: pickdef stores the itemdef of the pick
02:23 NekoGloop     VanessaE: yet it does
02:23 VanessaE      it shouldn't.
02:24 RealBadAngel  i got rid of metalis error and k
02:24 NekoGloop     or, rather, used to, before I added in the table.insert parts.
02:24 VanessaE      gems is still a table whether you use it as one or not :-)
02:24 RealBadAngel  now just pickdef error popped up
02:24 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: mind sharing with the class?
02:24 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: do you have moreores and gloopores installed?
02:25 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: this is important.
02:26 RealBadAngel  http://pastebin.com/xm7gS2vU
02:26 RealBadAngel  im here right now
02:26 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: of course you're getting an error.
02:27 VanessaE      fix line 150 damn it :-)
02:27 RealBadAngel  i think i dont have gloopores here :)
02:27 NekoGloop     Because it cant find the pickaxe belonging to item "default:pick_ddds"
02:27 RealBadAngel  ahhh
02:29 NekoGloop     that's why metalis exists.
02:30 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: turns out you should listen to Vanessa.
02:30 NekoGloop     Fix line 150 dammit.
02:30 VanessaE      lol
02:30 NekoGloop     it at least gives us a new error :3
02:31 VanessaE      yeah, you can't access an array in Lua the way you would in BASH ;)
02:31 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, proceeding with network code test
02:31 NekoGloop     I dont know the slightest about coding in BASH
02:31 OldCoder      NekoGloop, do this:
02:31 OldCoder      echo meow
02:31 RealBadAngel  got the reason
02:31 OldCoder      There you go
02:31 RealBadAngel  hold on
02:32 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, so pulling the latest C55 GIT should work?
02:32 RealBadAngel  for j,k in ipairs(metals) do
02:32 RealBadAngel  print ("j="..j..",k="..k)
02:32 RealBadAngel  modis = mods[j]
02:32 RealBadAngel  metalis = k
02:32 VanessaE      NekoGloop: foo="bar baz quux"; for i in foo; do echo $i; done
02:32 VanessaE      bar
02:32 VanessaE      baz
02:32 VanessaE      quux
02:32 RealBadAngel  k will hold "steel" and etc
02:32 RealBadAngel  dont try to call table with k
02:32 NekoGloop     I wasnt.
02:33 RealBadAngel  use metalis=k
02:33 NekoGloop     I just did.
02:33 NekoGloop     Try it.
02:35 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: to recap, you changed line 150 to "for i,l in ipairs(gems) do", right?
02:37 RealBadAngel  yup
02:37 RealBadAngel  need just gloopores now
02:37 NekoGloop     no you dont :3
02:37 NekoGloop     go in the config.lua
02:37 NekoGloop     set alatro and arol to false
02:38 RealBadAngel  03:37:56: ERROR[main]: /home/realbadangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:
02:38 RealBadAngel  03:37:56: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:159: attempt to index field 'times' (a nil value)
02:38 NekoGloop     but what i dont understand is why is it still erroring for me?
02:38 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: yep we're stuck on the same stone.
02:38 RealBadAngel  from where you get it?
02:39 NekoGloop     VanessaE: got anything to comment on the issue?
02:39 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: same line.
02:39 VanessaE      show me the latest code plz :-)
02:39 RealBadAngel  i mean that field
02:39 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: ah.
02:39 NekoGloop     from pickdef
02:39 NekoGloop     :P
02:39 NekoGloop     pickdig*
02:40 NekoGloop     VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/wHS4K3Y9
02:40 VanessaE      dunno about it
02:41 NekoGloop     because if i put print(dump(pickdig)), it has a perfectly fine times table.
02:42 RealBadAngel  npickdig is empty
02:42 NekoGloop     i know
02:42 NekoGloop     because it fails to set its values
02:45 RealBadAngel  03:44:48: ERROR[main]: ...badangel/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/gems/init.lua:176: attempt to perform arithmetic on field '?' (a nil value)
02:45 RealBadAngel  im here now
02:45 NekoGloop     so am i
02:45 NekoGloop     attempting to remedy.
02:46 RealBadAngel  added this btw :
02:46 RealBadAngel  npickdig.times={}
02:46 RealBadAngel  naxedigc.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel  naxedigf.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel  nshoveldig.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel  nsworddigf.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel  nsworddigs.times = {}
02:46 RealBadAngel  nsworddigc.times = {}
02:47 RealBadAngel  so times tables are defined now
02:47 NekoGloop     I did this: npickdig = {times={}}
02:47 NekoGloop     for each
02:47 NekoGloop     less lines of code :P
02:47 NekoGloop     i fixed the arithmetic
02:48 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
02:48 NekoGloop     what the hell does this new error message mean?
02:49 NekoGloop     I think i broke a builtin function even without redefinining it.
02:49 NekoGloop     hell, i broke a C++ function from LUA.
02:49 NekoGloop     That's gotta be worth a medal.
02:51 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: any ideas? :P
02:54 NekoGloop     I like how I've got three people working together on this one freaking error. Dx
02:57 RealBadAngel  but who made all those errors
02:57 RealBadAngel  thats the question ;)
02:57 NekoGloop     c55 :3
02:57 Pavee         what's happening?
02:58 NekoGloop     Pavee: all hell is breaking loose.
02:58 NekoGloop     a normal day in #minetest
02:58 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: got the slightest idea what the error means?
02:59 Pavee         you can define vars (local) in for loops?
02:59 NekoGloop     do what in the what?
02:59 Pavee         321 et al
03:00 NekoGloop     321 sa ysae sa
03:00 Pavee         line 321 and others
03:00 NekoGloop     I dunno
03:01 NekoGloop     that part of the code isnt coded by me :P
03:01 sokomine      hi
03:01 NekoGloop     sokomine: feel like debugging some lua? :P
03:01 sokomine      perhaps :-) what is the problem?
03:01 NekoGloop     http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
03:02 NekoGloop     with the omploader link... somewhere up there in the chat
03:02 NekoGloop     http://ompldr.org/vZzY3bg
03:02 NekoGloop     put the pastebin code in the init.lua of the mod
03:03 sokomine      i can see the code on pastebin. which error messages do you get?
03:04 sokomine      when i run minetest it slows the browser down quite a lot
03:04 NekoGloop     [C]: in function "register_item_raw"
03:05 NekoGloop     in the lua, it is 217.
03:05 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, I am done with the build. Are you here?
03:08 sokomine      and where is register_item_raw? doesn't seem to be on the pastebin code?
03:08 NekoGloop     sokomine: in the C++
03:08 NekoGloop     I broke a C++ function from LUA. I deserve a medal. :P
03:09 sokomine      you can crash the server without much work from within lua
03:09 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZD5i977WBs&feature=related
03:10 RealBadAngel  i just shortened your mod to just one node definition
03:10 RealBadAngel  its fucked up
03:11 NekoGloop     how so?
03:12 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: care to share with the class?
03:13 RealBadAngel  hold on
03:14 sokomine      well, the mod gives me a "invalid key to 'next'" error message
03:14 NekoGloop     yep
03:14 NekoGloop     that error comes from the C++
03:15 NekoGloop     without knowledge of what it means? I got no fucking idea what i did wrong.
03:17 NekoGloop     and I cant find such code in the itemdef.cpp
03:17 sokomine      lua isn't particulary forthcoming as far as error messages are concerned
03:18 Pavee         that doesn't sound like a C++ err msg
03:19 NekoGloop     it certainly isnt in the LUA i can tell you that.
03:19 RealBadAngel  jesus
03:19 RealBadAngel  somebody shall shoot you
03:19 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: then do it now.
03:19 RealBadAngel  tile_images you moron
03:20 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: ?
03:20 RealBadAngel  :)
03:20 NekoGloop     IIRC tiles = {} is the proper way...
03:20 Pavee         ?
03:20 NekoGloop     tile_images is the deprecated one...
03:21 sokomine      that line here causes the trouble: sworddigc = sworddef.tool_capabilities.groupcaps.choppy
03:22 NekoGloop     sokomine: how is that different than the lines around it?
03:23 sokomine      well, i don't know how all these things are defined in the interface? i havn't been particulary intrested in swords and ignored the groups mostly for now. check if what you want to access there really exists and can be accessed
03:23 NekoGloop     I know it does.
03:24 NekoGloop     whaddya think i checked first?
03:24 sokomine      well...thie other things don't seem to have the same problem. just the sword
03:25 NekoGloop     i know
03:25 NekoGloop     wait whAT?
03:25 NekoGloop     why would you have a problem with that?
03:26 NekoGloop     sokomine: explain pls
03:28 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, pastebin ur current version please
03:29 NekoGloop     sadly nothing has changed from this: http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
03:30 NekoGloop     ... fix it Dx
03:31 sokomine      hmm. and metalis seems to be nil
03:32 NekoGloop     sokomine: its not
03:32 NekoGloop     print(dump(metalis))
03:32 NekoGloop     that would literally print "nil" if metalis were nil
03:33 sokomine      you do have a "for j,k in iparis(metals) do   modis = mods[j]    metalis = metals[j]     replace the last line there with metalis = k
03:34 sokomine      metals isn't nil. metals[j] is
03:34 NekoGloop     so is k apparently.
03:35 sokomine      no. k has in this case the desired value
03:35 NekoGloop     sokomine: yeah try again 8)
03:36 NekoGloop     same error. same line. same function.
03:38 sokomine      hm, ok, the error i get right now comes from moreores not beeing part of my test installation
03:38 NekoGloop     in the config.lua put false next to all of them except steel
03:41 NekoGloop     sokomine: print(dump(metals[j]))
03:43 sokomine      at least my version of moreores does not seem to include moreores:pick_bronze
03:46 sokomine      let's see...how is it called there...moreores:bronze_pick_bronze seems more likely
03:46 sokomine      strange name
03:46 NekoGloop     you seem to have a -really- old moreores
03:47 sokomine      yes? :-( hoped i had all more or less up to date. maybe i forgot to update moreores
03:47 NekoGloop     maybe it's too -new- too :P
03:48 sokomine      still...that's *your* job to print an error message then :-)
03:48 sokomine      really important and often forgotten...if something is nil or out of range don't use it as an index to a table. some languages are more forgiving than others
03:49 NekoGloop     why should i have to allow the stupidity of the modmaker or the user?
03:49 OldCoder      I am resting for a little while
03:49 VanessaE      because sometimes the mod maker = the user = you? :-)
03:50 sokomine      good night, oldcoder
03:50 VanessaE      (I try to allow for complete idiots to use my code, including my own occasional facepalms)
03:50 OldCoder      i ll be back!
03:50 OldCoder      to coin a phrase
03:50 NekoGloop     VanessaE: I try to make people be smart so we dont have total idiots here in minetest :P
03:51 sokomine      nekogloop: people having old or incompatible versions installed isn't stupidity. not catching such an error is a fault of your mod (happens all the time because catching them is sometimes a lot of work)
03:51 VanessaE      we're gonna have total idiots anyway, may as well try to avoid utterly stupid errors :)
03:51 NekoGloop     since i currently have no idea how sokomine made it work?
03:51 sokomine      it doesn't work yet :-)
03:51 NekoGloop     well you got it past the register_item_raw error
03:52 sokomine      i'm looking at the errors and am a bit tired
03:52 NekoGloop     == i can try to make it work from there
03:52 sokomine      yes, well, you do have and use fileds that are not defined
03:52 NekoGloop     not possible.
03:52 NekoGloop     All that was changed was a different way of giving minetest the data.
03:53 NekoGloop     then the whole thing goes to hell.
03:54 sokomine      hm. registered tools for moerores:bronze_pick_bronze seems empty as well. hm
03:54 VanessaE      s/moerores/moreores/
03:56 NekoGloop     .... derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp
03:56 sokomine      thanks :-) but that wasn't the error. in this case moreores wasn't loaded yet
03:56 NekoGloop     look at the groupcaps...
03:56 NekoGloop     look really hard at the groupcaps...
03:56 NekoGloop     notice whats missing?
03:56 sokomine      there's an error in there, yes. that's why i changed them to a default string for testing. that got rid of one of the errors. the other one still stays
03:57 sokomine      but it switched to gloopores:alatro_pick_alatro now. and i definitely don't have that. you have to catch those errors
03:57 NekoGloop     I dont have to catch anything
03:57 NekoGloop     Player should update.
03:58 sokomine      what will your mod depend on?
03:58 NekoGloop     nothing
03:59 NekoGloop     its all configurable
03:59 NekoGloop     look at config.lua
03:59 sokomine      maybe you pointed me to wrong versions or you're working on newer ones
03:59 NekoGloop     or maybe you didnt download the omploader part?
04:00 sokomine      ah, ok
04:00 sokomine      but still you ought to catch those errors
04:00 sokomine      because eliminiating those two errors allows the game to start...
04:02 NekoGloop     Now, I wait for windows to stop derping.
04:02 NekoGloop     fuck
04:02 NekoGloop     restarting
04:02 VanessaE      its Windows.  Does it ever stop derping? :)
04:02 VanessaE      haha
04:02 sokomine      besides, what does "derp" mean? i had a player saying that continously on minecraft
04:03 VanessaE      I guess that would be a no :-)
04:03 VanessaE      derp = acts stupid
04:03 sokomine      ah
04:04 VanessaE      stupid, idiotic, moronic, or just plain dumb.
04:04 VanessaE      :)
04:04 sokomine      well...that was a strange player anyway :-)
04:06 VanessaE      heh
04:08 NekoGloop     now, I need that pastebin link that i had earlier
04:08 NekoGloop     can someone please repost it?
04:08 VanessaE      [11-06 23:03] <NekoGloop> restarting
04:08 VanessaE      [11-06 23:03] * NekoGloop has quit (Quit: Page closed)
04:08 VanessaE      [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> its Windows.  Does it ever stop derping? :)
04:08 sokomine      http://pastebin.com/hUszBNaH
04:08 VanessaE      [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> haha
04:08 VanessaE      [11-06 23:03] <VanessaE> I guess that would be a no :-)
04:08 sokomine      :-)
04:09 NekoGloop     VanessaE: yeah, when you shut it off.
04:09 VanessaE      lol
04:09 NekoGloop     note to self:
04:09 NekoGloop     do not end process explorer.exe
04:10 VanessaE      lol
04:10 sokomine      do you know now what you have to do regarding your mod, neko?
04:10 NekoGloop     sokomine: yeah
04:10 sokomine      ok
04:10 NekoGloop     it doesnt involve killing system processes :3
04:10 sokomine      ,-)
04:10 sokomine      and what do you intend to change?
04:11 NekoGloop     remember the groupcaps?
04:11 NekoGloop     well, they cant be just put into the table
04:11 NekoGloop     they need a place within the table
04:12 NekoGloop     like, cracky = npickdig
04:12 sokomine      yes, that seems the main error, the one that gave the initial error message. but please handle the other one as well
04:13 NekoGloop     ... fuck.
04:14 NekoGloop     someone walk me through what was changed in that pastebin lua?
04:14 sokomine      what's up?
04:15 NekoGloop     errors from before
04:15 NekoGloop     stopping explorer.exe seems to have wiped out changes i made to my files.
04:16 NekoGloop     sokomine: it runs with the one you have, correct?
04:17 sokomine      no, it doesn't. without moreores in depends.txt, it seems to load gems first
04:18 NekoGloop     because alphabet.
04:18 sokomine      thus, the tools from moreores arn't loaded yet and your mod crashes
04:18 sokomine      possible. who knows?
04:18 NekoGloop     I do.
04:19 sokomine      but there's liddle you can change there. just put it into the readme that those things that ought to be encrusted have to be put into depends.txt   or else let your function sleep a bit until moreores&co have done their definitions
04:20 NekoGloop     or make them nonoptional
04:20 NekoGloop     :3
04:21 NekoGloop     sokomine: doesnt seem to have worked
04:21 NekoGloop     mind pastebin'ing what you have?
04:21 sokomine      that might work as well. anyone considering gems will most likely have moreores as well. i only didn't because it's a limited version of the game intended for testing
04:22 sokomine      ah yes, mom...
04:22 sokomine      metalis = k --metals[j]
04:22 sokomine      141,146d139
04:22 sokomine      <
04:22 sokomine      < if( not( pickdef )) then
04:22 sokomine      <             pickdef = minetest.registered_tools[modis..":"..metalis.."_pick_"..metalis]
04:22 sokomine      < end
04:23 sokomine      that's for the moreores version i have
04:23 sokomine      plus the changs to the groupdefs
04:23 NekoGloop     ...
04:23 NekoGloop     -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop     -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop     -PASTEBIN-
04:23 NekoGloop     Its easier to copy.
04:26 sokomine      http://pastebin.com/kpyDSeiy
04:27 sokomine      ah, you did mention the moreores dependency in the header
04:27 sokomine      there's still a debug message in it
04:27 NekoGloop     i kept the header from the old gems mod :P
04:27 NekoGloop     < is not wowiamdiamonds
04:27 sokomine      and that if( not( pickdef )) then    ... has to be expanded. if after that try it still isn't defined throw a good error message and stop trying to do anything with it
04:28 NekoGloop     WHY
04:28 NekoGloop     WHY IS THIS DOUBLE TABBED
04:29 NekoGloop     FUCK YOU LINUX
04:29 sokomine      double tabbed?
04:29 NekoGloop     yeah?
04:29 NekoGloop     you have two tabs where only one is neccessarry.
04:29 sokomine      hm, i used the web browser for cut&paste...
04:29 sokomine      well...do a diff to your code. it isn't exactly such a big change
04:30 NekoGloop     < still has no idea what a "diff" is
04:30 sokomine      diff is a tool (commandline) that shows you the difference between two files. very helpful for developing
04:32 NekoGloop     what is flesyh?
04:32 sokomine      looks like a typo.....
04:32 NekoGloop     you have a few typographical errors.
04:32 NekoGloop     for example, picks dont dig snappy
04:32 sokomine      quite possible. i'm tired and i'm not a native speaker
04:33 NekoGloop     they dig cracky.
04:33 NekoGloop     shovels dig crumbly...
04:34 sokomine      didn't picks dig almost everything?
04:34 NekoGloop     no...?
04:34 sokomine      or perhaps it's just the nodes that most of the time allow beeing...well...picked up by almost everything
04:34 NekoGloop     mese pick is a special case.
04:35 sokomine      ah, ok. took me a lot of time to figure out that it's worth using one
04:36 NekoGloop     sweet it loaded this time :P
04:36 sokomine      too much lag/slow computer (or at least not very good grapic card) lead to stone not always digged up, so i didn't think a mese pick might improve things much. but now it works better
04:36 sokomine      :-)
04:37 VanessaE      fuck using a mese pick - get a maptools Admin Pick :-)
04:37 NekoGloop     get an evil pick
04:38 sokomine      :-) the diamond- and titanium ones seem to be quite good as well (and almost indestructible compared to mese)
04:39 sokomine      but why stop with the admin pick? to really get something done worldedit might be much more powerful :-))))
04:39 NekoGloop     hehe
04:39 NekoGloop     diamond?
04:39 NekoGloop     you using -that- old mod?
04:39 NekoGloop     :3
04:39 NekoGloop     and titanium, meh, if it was used in e.g. technic i'd be much more inclined to use it
04:39 sokomine      well, it does construct lasting picks. they really last :-)
04:40 NekoGloop     so do arol
04:40 NekoGloop     FUUU--
04:40 sokomine      hm?
04:40 NekoGloop     helps to add ..".png" :P
04:40 sokomine      yes, sometimes :-)
04:42 NekoGloop     VanessaE: please tell me i got this right: "VanessaEzekowitz"
04:42 sokomine      on my singleplayer version the selection of installed mods is quite diffrent than on a server. mostly i can't live without flowers, moreores, farming, farming_plus, bushes (basicly nature_pack_controlled) and sometimes animals
04:42 VanessaE      yep
04:43 NekoGloop     sokomine: all of the above, minus animals and farming_plus...
04:43 sokomine      as long as vanessa doesn't ask us to pronounce her name...
04:43 NekoGloop     with the addition of pretty much everything else.
04:43 VanessaE      just exactly as it's spelled, no silent e's or z's. :-)
04:43 NekoGloop     sokomine: its not that part that's a problem. that's easy.
04:43 NekoGloop     the hard part is remembering it :3
04:43 VanessaE      lol
04:44 sokomine      vanessa: doesn't help much. i do spelling in german, and that is diffrent
04:44 NekoGloop     ok, can i have a show of hands?
04:44 NekoGloop     who thinks that ores should use "cracky=2"
04:45 VanessaE      Well that it folks - it's all over but the shouting.  CNN, Fox, NBC, and the AP have all called it for Obama.
04:45 NekoGloop     VanessaE: we're doooooooooooooooooooooooomed..............?
04:46 VanessaE      no, quite the opposite.  Either way, now we can start ripping down all of those G*d damned political signs all over the place :-)
04:46 NekoGloop     the nation is already gonna keel over one way or the other.
04:48 NekoGloop     sokomine: the main point of this patch is to make the encrusted tools be registered in a loop, rather than individually.
04:49 NekoGloop     and now I am off to bed.
04:49 sokomine      neko: yes, useful if you have more than one tool
04:49 NekoGloop     good night.
04:49 sokomine      sleep well
04:49 NekoGloop     sokomine: also useful for texture pack makers.
04:49 sokomine      the u.s. election system seems a bit strange from here
04:50 VanessaE      sokomine:  it IS strange.
04:50 NekoGloop     sokomine: its a bit strange from here too :3
04:50 sokomine      but ours isn't perfect either
04:50 sokomine      :-)
06:33 ruskie        *yawn*
08:09 leo_rockway   OldCoder: I have git clones of armor, workbench, craftguide, particles, bags, inventoryplus. I update nightly, so they should be latest.
08:09 leo_rockway   highlight me or pm me if you need any. I'm going to sleep.
08:11 leo_rockway   I'm sad about seeing him go, btw.
10:37 celeron55     news about mese! http://www.iltalehti.fi/digi/2012110716300181_du.shtml
11:20 jin_xi        wow, its really nice how fast ambient mod is loaded
12:17 OldCoder      Hi!
12:17 OldCoder      leo_rockway, Hey!
12:17 OldCoder      leo_rockway, ZIP up your set and email it or just upload to SendSpace.com
12:17 OldCoder      Thank you!
12:18 OldCoder      He told me that he does not object BTW. Except for one file; I have removed that one at his request.
12:18 OldCoder      4:15am my time BTW. I am here but (a) I am going to buy cola now. (b) I will be away for some hours later today.
12:50 OldCoder      anunakki, hi
13:52 NekoGloop     Meow?
13:57 OldCoder      Hi kitty
13:57 * OldCoder    pats the kitty absent mindedly
13:58 * NekoGloop   purrs :3
14:07 NekoGloop     hello iqualfragile
14:08 iqualfragile  hi neko
14:10 OldCoder      iqualfragile, Hi
14:10 iqualfragile  hi oldcoder
14:11 iqualfragile  just out of curiosity: is the order of words different in the polish language
14:11 OldCoder      Relative to English?
14:11 OldCoder      Provide an example
14:11 iqualfragile  in most languages i know you greet like
14:11 iqualfragile  hello name
14:11 iqualfragile  or hi name
14:11 iqualfragile  or hallo name
14:11 iqualfragile  oder guten tag name
14:11 OldCoder      It can be either order for English
14:11 iqualfragile  (last two were german)
14:11 OldCoder      Depends on context
14:12 OldCoder      In a formal English letter: Name, Hi. may be normal.
14:12 OldCoder      I don't think there's a firm rule
14:12 iqualfragile  so there are some cases in the polish language where you greet like name hello?
14:12 OldCoder      I do not speak Polish and therefore cannot be sure
14:13 iqualfragile  some quite sleepy part of my brain exchanged you with realbadangle
14:14 OldCoder      Ha
14:14 iqualfragile  im sorry
14:14 OldCoder      No
14:14 OldCoder      He is the one you should ask
14:14 OldCoder      It was because he and I are both very old :-)
14:14 OldCoder      We look down from the Rock of Ages
14:17 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIgZWgfaZHc
14:31 RealBadAngel  hi
14:32 blaze         hi
14:32 RealBadAngel  just browsed the forums and got suprised
14:32 blaze         iqualfragile: words ordering is not so important in polish as in english
14:32 NekoGloop     hm?
14:32 RealBadAngel  found some new mod that adds swamps
14:32 RealBadAngel  not really suprising but
14:32 RealBadAngel  the guys uses shaders
14:33 RealBadAngel  made by kahrl 8 months ago
14:33 NekoGloop     "Here's a screenshot of the old junglemod:"
14:33 iqualfragile  blaze: but you have one more gramatical case, dont you?
14:33 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: "Here's a screenshot of the old junglemod:"
14:33 NekoGloop     its not a screenie by him IIRC
14:33 RealBadAngel  i dont give a fuck to the swamps
14:34 NekoGloop     Me neither ^^
14:34 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzAu9mGh4d4&feature=relmfu :3
14:35 RealBadAngel  https://github.com/kahrl/minetest/tree/shaders_v3
14:35 NekoGloop     i know.
14:35 RealBadAngel  this is somethin interesting
14:36 RealBadAngel  using shaders can make game amazingly beautiful
14:36 RealBadAngel  dynamic lighting, bump mapping
14:37 NekoGloop     I would love it if it was upgraded to 0.4.3 and made a windows build thereof.
14:37 RealBadAngel  gonna just dig the code of it
14:38 RealBadAngel  if its already implemented, shall be no prob to port it to 043
14:39 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, managed to get rid of all errors?
14:39 NekoGloop     well it was a depends issue.
14:39 RealBadAngel  FreeFull, lol@ your domain
14:40 FreeFull      =P
14:40 FreeFull      You only noticed now?
14:40 RealBadAngel  sausage-lover rotfl
14:40 FreeFull      Had it for a while =P
14:40 RealBadAngel  you just joined when i was talkin to neko
14:40 RealBadAngel  so seen your host
14:47 NekoGloop     Meow.
14:48 Lumpio-       ugh
15:02 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LciylndQPu8 :3
15:05 RealBadAngel  i havent installed flash yet ;)
15:05 NekoGloop     xD
15:05 NekoGloop     then you should load the HTML5 player.
15:06 NekoGloop     http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LciylndQPu8
15:06 RealBadAngel  first the GUI for github
15:06 RealBadAngel  rest can wait
15:06 iqualfragile  youtube.com/html5
15:07 iqualfragile  https://youtube.com/html5
15:07 RealBadAngel  you can youtube as much as u wish
15:07 RealBadAngel  i wont see it :)
15:07 Lumpio-       >2012
15:07 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: HTML5.
15:07 Lumpio-       >browser can't even play videos
15:07 NekoGloop     not flash.
15:07 Lumpio-       (  ﾟ,_ゝﾟ)
15:08 NekoGloop     tis what you get for using a linux distro :3
15:08 RealBadAngel  html5 player is experimental
15:08 Lumpio-       My Linux plays all video (including Flash) quite fine
15:09 Lumpio-       Infact to be honest, these days I get more Flash crashes on my work computer that runs Windows...
15:09 RealBadAngel  im just jokin, i could play them if i paid attention to it
15:09 RealBadAngel  had another priorities on new system than just youtube
15:10 NekoGloop     < never has a problem with windows computer unless he causes it directly :P
15:10 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, hi
15:11 RealBadAngel  btw NekoGloop, and no, windows is not any better because it plays youtube right after install
15:11 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, I think I need to revert the part of celeron55 code that is backwards incompatible
15:11 OldCoder      Then I can fix the network issue myself
15:11 OldCoder      I can't join the new version you gave me because it has the node serialization error
15:11 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: did i say that?
15:11 RealBadAngel  he made some further patches i think, read the log in #dev
15:11 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, you were about to say that
15:11 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, I have been ordered to leave the dev channel
15:12 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, therefore I have complied
15:12 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, I do not have the logs
15:12 NekoGloop     Now I werent.
15:12 RealBadAngel  seen the argue
15:12 NekoGloop     Fuck you all too.
15:12 RealBadAngel  hehehe
15:12 OldCoder      NekoGloop, all is well
15:12 RealBadAngel  chill out
15:12 OldCoder      Or well enough
15:12 NekoGloop     I hope you all know a simple "we dont want you here" is good enough/
15:12 OldCoder      ?
15:12 OldCoder      NekoGloop, we do want you here
15:12 OldCoder      It would be lonely indeed
15:13 NekoGloop     no. not really.
15:13 OldCoder      Without a temperamental and fussy and demanding cat
15:13 OldCoder      Curled up by the fireplace sometimes
15:13 * OldCoder    misses his cats
15:13 * OldCoder    will return in a bit
15:14 celeron55     shaders_v3 does nothing useful
15:14 celeron55     it's just a framework for shaders
15:15 FreeFull      What's shaders_v3? A mod?
15:15 celeron55     kahrl whipped it up just out of interest and in order to test shader performance on different hardware
15:15 celeron55     FreeFull: a branch
15:16 NekoGloop     celeron55: but it makes the game look better.
15:16 celeron55     NekoGloop: it doesn't, unless you make it to
15:16 NekoGloop     they should at least be an option to have shaders in upstream.
15:19 FreeFull      I wonder, if you make it a checkbox, if that would allow for those who don't have a graphics chip that supports shaders to still play
15:19 celeron55     NekoGloop: the shaders_v3 makes the game look like this: http://c55.me/random/2012-02/minetest_render_25.png
15:19 celeron55     it just inverts colors
15:20 NekoGloop     yes but it can be edited to make the things look better.
15:20 celeron55     most likely nobody here is able to
15:21 NekoGloop     http://wiki.pixbits.com/index.php/Bamboo_Block I would love to see papyrus blocks.
15:22 PilzAdam      Hello everyone!
15:22 RealBadAngel  hi PilzAdam
15:23 * NekoGloop   gives PilzAdam a cookie
15:23 * PilzAdam    gives it back to NekoGloop
15:23 PilzAdam      i just had lunch
15:23 * NekoGloop   throws it at adam
15:23 * PilzAdam    offers it to RealBadAngel
15:24 FreeFull      I've written a few shaders before
15:24 FreeFull      But I probably wouldn't make minetest look better
15:24 ecube         why
15:25 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: in total, how many clay lumps do i need if i make a normal and electric alloy furnacE?
15:28 PilzAdam      RealBadAngel, whats with the wheat textures for farming?
15:31 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, 5 bricks, so 20 clay
15:31 NekoGloop     8 bricks for normal one, so that would be...
15:31 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam, im goin off for 1,5hrs soon, will do that when back
15:31 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, do you know if it is possible to revert the celeron55 code you wished to test to remove the backwards incompatible nodebox changes?
15:31 RealBadAngel  5 for electric, 8 for coal driven
15:32 RealBadAngel  OldCoder, idk, ask c55
15:32 RealBadAngel  or PilzAdam
15:33 NekoGloop     why the hell is clay so rare.
15:34 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, I do not feel I have much to say to PilzAdam ATM. Regarding celeron55 you were the one who brought me his code. I will review the code further today if I don't go to San Jose. I will do what I can.
15:34 PilzAdam      OldCoder, how is the state of the PilzTest server?
15:34 OldCoder      PilzAdam, I restarted it yesterday and opened it up. The rest is up to any players.
15:34 PilzAdam      is ambience still installed?
15:34 OldCoder      Let me check
15:35 OldCoder      om
15:36 OldCoder      PilzAdam, The world appears to be up. Unless there is a lockup I do not see. Ambience remains installed. If you don't like Ambience then with your mighty Core Dev status help me to build the celeron55 that RealBadAngel has brought me. We need to revert the backwards incompatible nodebox changes.
15:36 OldCoder      *celeron55 code
15:36 OldCoder
15:37 PilzAdam      i have no idea what code you are talking about
15:37 RealBadAngel  or lets use jeija's client side LUA
15:37 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, Go on
15:37 OldCoder      PilzAdam, I am attempting to produce a sensible and stable set of servers and clients
15:37 RealBadAngel  look on forums for "proof on concept"
15:38 RealBadAngel  jeija made workin LUA side simple mod
15:38 OldCoder      PilzAdam, it is not as easy as it appears. And core dev issues are involved. Therefore take your remark of yesterday and shove it.
15:38 * OldCoder    is pleased to get that off his chest
15:38 RealBadAngel  *client side
15:38 * OldCoder    returns to the code
15:39 RealBadAngel  this exact side where ambience should be
15:39 PilzAdam      OldCoder, it would be nice if you could remove the ambience mod; but you dont have to do it immediatly
15:40 RealBadAngel  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3533
15:40 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam, just download the cache
15:40 OldCoder      PilzAdam, I am occupied with the process of producing a sensible and stable set of servers and clients. You can help with that or not. This will include fixing the Ambience problem.
15:40 OldCoder      I will be hampered in the process as I am not welcome in the core dev channel.
15:41 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: people like me and adam dont like constant noise.
15:41 OldCoder      As you know.
15:41 OldCoder      NekoGloop, It is my hope to add checkboxes that will work
15:41 NekoGloop     or at least to be able to go on youtube and choose the music we hear.
15:41 OldCoder      Ditto for that
15:42 OldCoder      mrtux, how is your cold?
15:42 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, i can play music with my mp3 player. but thats not the issue
15:42 mrtux         getting better
15:43 RealBadAngel  and just because you dont like it, it doesnt mean others shall not have it
15:43 NekoGloop     the issue is that they are letting you code the C++
15:43 RealBadAngel  download cache, turn your speakers off ;)
15:43 NekoGloop     but i wanna hear the SFX
15:44 NekoGloop     and my youtube music.
15:44 RealBadAngel  so you would like to have volume sliders in game propably?
15:44 NekoGloop     wont work.
15:44 NekoGloop     would disable the SFX as well.
15:44 NekoGloop     because that's all ambience is.
15:44 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, NekoGloop See above. We will add checkboxes.
15:44 OldCoder      That will work.
15:45 NekoGloop     SFX played on a loop.
15:45 RealBadAngel  when done, ambience should follow the rules
15:45 NekoGloop     OldCoder: nope.
15:45 RealBadAngel  sfx volume, music volume
15:45 RealBadAngel  easy as that
15:45 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: when done, such should be handled by game internally.
15:45 NekoGloop     not by external mod.
15:45 OldCoder      NekoGloop, nope what?
15:46 NekoGloop     nothing.
15:46 NekoGloop     my opinions arent important.
15:47 RealBadAngel  game should provide ways
15:47 RealBadAngel  mods shall use them
15:48 NekoGloop     You have all proven that my opinions mean nothing.
15:48 RealBadAngel  nothin less nothin more
15:48 NekoGloop     Oh yes, great and mighty god. You shall be the only one who matters.
15:48 Jordach       RealBadAngel i tried making a reactor - works fine, but it wont transfer power to wiring
15:48 NekoGloop     Jordach: needs to be registered as a machine.
15:48 Lumpio-       Maybe you forgot to plug it in
15:48 Jordach       it is
15:48 NekoGloop     So the batbox will recognize it.
15:49 Jordach       NekoGloop - ill go check
15:49 NekoGloop     Jordach: did you use the correct register function?
15:49 RealBadAngel  Jordach, when i got back i will explain it to you
15:49 NekoGloop     IIRC the MV and LV ones have different functions.
15:49 RealBadAngel  look at battery box lua
15:49 RealBadAngel  very end of it
15:49 RealBadAngel  you will understand why
15:49 NekoGloop     IMO there should just be one type of power.
15:49 NekoGloop     or at least just one batbox.
15:50 Jordach       or some group
15:50 NekoGloop     groups wouldnt work
15:50 Jordach       power = 1 (lv) 2 (mv) 3 (hv)
15:51 NekoGloop     the function needs more than the groups can provide.
15:51 OldCoder      Jordach, hello
15:51 OldCoder      Calinou, ditto
15:51 NekoGloop     we playin' pokemon now?
15:52 Calinou       hi
15:52 Calinou       Jordach: contact apple's help, they'll tell you "buy a new reactor"
15:52 Calinou       8D
15:52 Jordach       for gods sake, thats funny
15:53 NekoGloop     why is that not amusing.
15:53 NekoGloop     I should texture the brick inventory item.
15:54 NekoGloop     and the alloy furnace because the false god refuses to texture something in 16x.
15:55 Jordach       RealBadAngel - the lines at the bottom of bat box.lua dont work
15:55 NekoGloop     Jordach: because those are for LV batbox.
15:56 NekoGloop     try plugging it into a LV batbox.
15:56 Jordach       i am
15:56 NekoGloop     oh?
15:56 NekoGloop     my API function? he broke it?
15:56 NekoGloop     why am i not surprised?
15:56 Jordach       NekoGloop - minetest.zapto.org : 30000
15:56 NekoGloop     ??
15:56 Jordach       for testing
15:57 NekoGloop     please tell me you dont have any extra crappy mods.
15:57 Jordach       nope
15:57 Jordach       just what technic needs
15:57 Jordach       (fuck all)
15:57 * Jordach     dislikes ambiance
15:57 NekoGloop     sweet I'll connect in half a second then :P
15:57 NekoGloop     ... assuming the server is up 8)
15:57 Jordach       it is up
15:58 NekoGloop     really?
15:58 NekoGloop     minetest says not :P
15:58 Jordach       ehm fuck
15:59 Jordach       the buffer fills fine
15:59 Jordach       and the hacky_node_swap works
15:59 NekoGloop     I cant even connect.
15:59 Jordach       i killed it
16:00 Jordach       (server)
16:00 NekoGloop     couldnt connect when you said i could.
16:00 * Jordach     checks router
16:10 Jordach       RealBadAngel - why do mv cables produce so many <> in the console?
16:12 * OldCoder    laughs
16:13 OldCoder      <NekoGloop> please tell me you dont have any extra crappy mods.
16:13 OldCoder      Can't have any of those! :p
16:13 NekoGloop     irony ^
16:13 OldCoder      We must make a list of them
16:13 OldCoder      And hunt them with wolves
16:13 NekoGloop     well here's a start: ambience
16:13 OldCoder      See above. There will be checkboxes.
16:14 OldCoder      Maybe alternative music.
16:14 OldCoder      They Might Be Giants.
16:14 OldCoder      Beck's "I'm A Loser"
16:14 OldCoder      Etc.
16:14 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxvQH4lyHps&feature=g-vrec
16:17 Jordach       RealBadAngel https://github.com/Jordach/technic i put my changes here
16:19 NekoGloop     huh
16:19 NekoGloop     you can get to World -1 in Mari0
16:22 VanessaE      yeah but you don't do it by jumping over the flag ;)
16:22 PilzAdam      hi VanessaE
16:23 NekoGloop     you dont in original SMB1 either.
16:23 VanessaE      (that was the rumor back in the day, to get to the "minus world" you jump over the flag at the end of World 1-1)
16:23 NekoGloop     ah.
16:23 VanessaE      yeah I know, it was a BS rumor :-)
16:23 NekoGloop     its easier to accomplish in Mari0
16:23 NekoGloop     since, y'know, you only have a portal gun and all.
16:23 VanessaE      hi PilzAdam
16:24 Jordach       VanessaE - in donkey kong a few pixels on the first ladder allows you to climb down and end up at the top
16:24 VanessaE      never tried that
16:24 Jordach       but it HAS TO BE pixel perfect
16:24 NekoGloop     I've launched myself at a flag once with the portal gun. It fills the squares above it with solid-ity.
16:24 Jordach       there is no if or elses here
16:24 Jordach       :D
16:25 * Jordach     is planning a FOSS FPS
16:25 Jordach       based on my own damn engine!
16:25 NekoGloop     There's also no pulling currents in World -1
16:25 NekoGloop     can someone confirm this happens in SMB1?
16:25 Jordach       Borderlands 2 has a world record for the most guns ever in a single game
16:26 OldCoder      Jordach, It will be interesting to see this. Make it C and not C++.
16:26 Jordach       yes NekoGloop
16:26 Jordach       OldCoder C, just C?
16:26 NekoGloop     Aw, I cant select World -1 in the World Select. XD
16:26 Jordach       i probably wanna use Irrlicht
16:26 Jordach       type it
16:26 NekoGloop     me>?
16:26 Jordach       yes!
16:26 NekoGloop     doesnt work
16:26 NekoGloop     :P
16:27 Jordach       aw
16:27 NekoGloop     fire flower + portals
16:27 Jordach       im considering converting MiniDoku light
16:27 Jordach       does anyone. want?
16:28 NekoGloop     portals like so:
16:28 NekoGloop     OO--
16:28 NekoGloop     --BB
16:28 NekoGloop     shoot a fireball into the blue one.
16:29 NekoGloop     three block tall area
16:29 NekoGloop     so i guess more like:
16:29 NekoGloop     OO--
16:29 NekoGloop     ____
16:29 NekoGloop     ____
16:29 NekoGloop     ___
16:29 NekoGloop     --BB
16:30 NekoGloop     FACK
16:30 OldCoder      Hi
16:31 OldCoder      Jordach, If possible. It is not a rule.
16:31 NekoGloop     I was -next- to the flag
16:31 OldCoder      But this will be good.
16:31 NekoGloop     and time runs out
16:44 Taoki         Just a FYI: I just got client-side attachments for models working at last, for the first time! My changes are on GIT. I will post on the forum later tonight with more technical details... still some bugs to fix
16:45 Taoki         For now, BBL
16:46 Jordach       YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
16:46 jin_xi        wow
16:47 jin_xi        can't wait to make an axe wielding rock troll mob
16:47 Jordach       or a REAL dungeon master
16:47 jin_xi        naww, rock troll
16:47 Jordach       wait wait wait
16:47 Jordach       Calinou - make a xonotic gamemode!
16:49 MiJyn         Jordach, you made a 3D game engine?
16:49 jin_xi        channeling Calinou response: no u
16:49 Jordach       MiJyn - i plan on using Irrlicht but making my own game engine, like minetest
16:50 Calinou       jin_xi is sayin' the truth
16:50 Jordach       (rather than using quakes one ammo no reloads)
16:50 jin_xi        oop
16:50 jin_xi        s
16:50 Calinou       Jordach: there are reloadable weapons in xon
16:50 Calinou       and you can tweak variables to make any weapon reloadable
16:50 MiJyn         Jordach, oh, pure OpenGL?
16:50 Calinou       (you just need admin rights on a server)
16:50 Jordach       Calinou - there is not enough guns
16:51 Jordach       i aprove of borderlands 2 because it has a world record for the most guns ever
16:52 MiJyn         Jordach, oh, nvrm
16:52 MiJyn         what about the memory leaks?
16:53 Jordach       they fixed it
16:53 Jordach       (a bit)
16:53 Jordach       https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/41c00e87d42580881d8c7001f39014814e3b55f2
17:02 MiJyn         Jordach, I'm talking about irrlicht
17:02 MiJyn         not minetest
17:03 Jordach       im off to play xonotic
17:08 Calinou       semi-relevant to minetest: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/lua.png
17:08 Calinou       Jordach: what server?
17:20 Jordach       Calinou - i wanna finish campaign first
17:20 Jordach       thats my rule, sp then mp
18:02 jkingjay      wie installiere ich mods oder texture packs ????
18:03 Lumpio-       Achtung Deutschland
18:03 NekoGloop     lol.
18:13 RealBadAngel  hehe
18:14 RealBadAngel  im back btw
18:14 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam, here?
18:14 PilzAdam      yep
18:14 RealBadAngel  pm
18:16 OdnetninI     OldCoder, the server is dowen
18:16 OdnetninI     down*
18:17 OdnetninI     I can't Connect
18:17 NekoGloop     celeron55: would it be possible to allow craft recipes to tag some wear to a tool used in the recipes?
18:18 OdnetninI     OldCoder?
18:19 NekoGloop     now... to make a node that does the encrusting of the tools.
18:22 OdnetninI     What's up OldCoder?
18:24 NekoGloop     how do i use a button within a formspec?
18:25 PilzAdam      there are many mods that use this; you can learn it yourself
18:27 NekoGloop     I dont give a fuck about you.
18:28 PilzAdam      NekoGloop, first define the button in the formspec: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L721
18:30 PilzAdam      NekoGloop, if it gets clicked this function is called: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1401
18:34 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, take music_player.lua
18:34 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: no.
18:34 RealBadAngel  im using there buttons
18:35 RealBadAngel  no to what?
18:35 NekoGloop     no to using your code.
18:35 RealBadAngel  whatever
18:36 RealBadAngel  when i made it i also looked at some1 eles code
18:36 RealBadAngel  to get an example
18:38 thexyz        there's also http://api.minetest.net/page/view/view/formspec.html
18:38 NekoGloop     ah, the api site is back up.
18:42 OldCoder      Hi!
18:42 OldCoder      I have been on the phone Odnet*
18:42 OldCoder      But I see you are gone
18:42 OldCoder      NekoGloop, API is there?
18:42 NekoGloop     apparently.
18:42 OldCoder      Which server was Odnet* talking about?
18:42 NekoGloop     not sure
18:45 OldCoder      NekoGloop, t y
18:45 NekoGloop     for?
18:45 OldCoder      NekoGloop, answering me
18:46 OldCoder      NekoGloop, in life sometimes people do not respect others enough even to answer
18:46 OldCoder      I have come to value answers
18:51 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, what you dont understand with buttons usage?
18:51 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: how to make them do something.
18:51 RealBadAngel  hold on then
18:52 RealBadAngel  formspec string: "button[5,2;1,1;track1;1]"
18:52 NekoGloop     I think I've got it
18:52 NekoGloop     realtest anvil :P
18:53 RealBadAngel  x,y,width,height, label visible, label of event
18:53 RealBadAngel  then:
18:53 NekoGloop     all i wanna know is how would i make a tool's wear transfer to another tool?
18:54 RealBadAngel  on_receive_fields = function(pos, formanme, fields, sender)
18:55 RealBadAngel  so buttons or wear?
18:55 NekoGloop     never mind
18:56 RealBadAngel  youre askin for help and another sentece refusing it
18:57 NekoGloop     how about this: got images that would work for a jeweling table?
18:58 RealBadAngel  more precise?
18:59 RealBadAngel  what is jewelin table?
18:59 NekoGloop     you put tool and gem in, you get encrusted tool.
18:59 NekoGloop     rather than craftgrid.
19:00 RealBadAngel  not possible without changes to the formspec
19:00 NekoGloop     perfectly possible.
19:00 NekoGloop     after all, wasnt a music player "impossible"
19:00 NekoGloop     ?
19:00 NekoGloop     :#
19:00 RealBadAngel  which im currently on
19:00 NekoGloop     :3
19:00 OldCoder      OdnetninI, which server?
19:01 OdnetninI     Skyblock
19:01 RealBadAngel  NekoGloop, i can make such option to the formspec
19:01 NekoGloop     I can do it right now.
19:01 RealBadAngel  to join items
19:01 NekoGloop     Dude. I'm 99% sure this will work.
19:02 RealBadAngel  then go on, suprise me
19:02 RealBadAngel  meanwhile im rewriting formspec
19:03 RealBadAngel  introduced variables already
19:03 RealBadAngel  now workin on user defined functions
19:04 NekoGloop     Hey look.
19:04 NekoGloop     i forgot a comma.
19:04 NekoGloop     Fuck.
19:04 OldCoder      OdnetninI, are you saying that you can't connect to Skyblock?
19:04 OdnetninI     yes
19:05 OdnetninI     i can't
19:05 OldCoder      Checking
19:07 OldCoder      OdnetninI, Thank you! You have helped us to identify a Skyblock bug
19:07 OdnetninI     what bug?
19:08 OldCoder      18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=7 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (214,-1,183)
19:08 OldCoder      WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=7 not found
19:08 OldCoder      18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=8 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (214,-2,183)
19:08 OldCoder      That leads up to:
19:08 OldCoder      18:14:43: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:70: bad argument #1 to 'get_meta' (table expected, got nil)
19:08 OldCoder
19:08 OldCoder      Is anybody able to comment on this?
19:08 OldCoder      OdnetninI, I will restart it now
19:08 NekoGloop     OldCoder: chunks are unloaded. Skyblock still tries to get meta.
19:08 OldCoder      Cause?
19:08 OldCoder      Should I do a clearobjects?
19:08 NekoGloop     Number blocks that hold the level-data
19:09 OldCoder      Hmm
19:09 NekoGloop     The level nodes.
19:09 OldCoder      Conclusions?
19:09 OldCoder      Damaged?
19:09 NekoGloop     hm...
19:09 OldCoder      Or transitory?
19:09 NekoGloop     as long as a player doesnt stray too far away from their home.
19:09 NekoGloop     for too long.
19:09 OldCoder      That is not acceptable
19:09 OdnetninI     Hmmm
19:09 OldCoder      Will clearobjects help?
19:09 NekoGloop     no.
19:10 OdnetninI     I went too many far of my house
19:10 OldCoder      Do I need to revert the world?
19:10 OdnetninI     no please
19:10 NekoGloop     no.
19:10 OdnetninI     i invert many of qork
19:10 OldCoder      Fixes?
19:10 OldCoder      Wait
19:10 OdnetninI     qork*
19:10 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: ok smartypants.
19:10 OldCoder      Backup is not too old
19:10 OldCoder      About 3 days
19:10 OldCoder      OdnetninI, would 3 days be too long? Maybe 4?
19:11 NekoGloop     How do i make the node right-clickable, RealBadAngel?
19:11 OldCoder      NekoGloop, advice?
19:11 OdnetninI     If you see my house
19:11 OldCoder      OdnetninI, when was it built?
19:11 OdnetninI     I extend my house too far
19:11 OldCoder      I am shutting down the worlds. Technic will be updated.
19:11 OdnetninI     my house not, my terrain
19:11 OldCoder      NekoGloop, advice regarding Skyblock? Revert 4 days?
19:12 OdnetninI     to make a mini world to create structures
19:12 OldCoder      OdnetninI, is 4 days O.K. ?
19:12 OdnetninI     4 days?
19:12 OdnetninI     what?
19:12 OldCoder      I can go back 4 days
19:13 OldCoder      Revert 4 days
19:13 OldCoder      That was last Skyblock backup
19:13 OdnetninI     mmm
19:13 OdnetninI     can you give me a copy of actual world
19:13 OdnetninI     ?
19:13 OldCoder      The current one? yes
19:13 OdnetninI     givee me
19:13 OldCoder      I will need to export it
19:13 OdnetninI     and revert
19:13 OdnetninI     ok
19:13 OldCoder      I will try this now
19:13 OldCoder      It is LevelDB
19:13 NekoGloop     OldCoder: havent been on in at least a month xD
19:13 OldCoder      You will need SQLite3
19:13 OldCoder      NekoGloop, advice?
19:14 NekoGloop     I havent a clue
19:14 OldCoder      k
19:14 NekoGloop     I just play the game.
19:14 OldCoder      Proceeding to export 30002
19:14 OdnetninI     One thing, i can't go too far of my home?
19:14 OldCoder      NekoGloop, ^
19:14 NekoGloop     i broke an ipairs function.
19:16 OldCoder      OdnetninI, I am attempting to produce an SQLite3 version of the world
19:16 OdnetninI     ok
19:16 OldCoder      This may take about 10 minutes
19:16 OdnetninI     ok
19:16 OdnetninI     no problem
19:16 PilzAdam      gtg; bye
19:18 OldCoder      OdnetninI, ready soon. I request that you download the world and test it yourself. You will need the mods. I will provide those as well.
19:18 OdnetninI     ok, provide me
19:18 OldCoder      Coming soon
19:20 OldCoder      OdnetninI, I am sorry. The export did not work. The best I can do is save the current world until it can be exported. thexyz export to sqlite3 does not appear to work.
19:20 OdnetninI     ok
19:21 OldCoder      Trying one more way
19:21 OldCoder      OdnetninI, I may also build a LevelDB client soon
19:21 OldCoder      If I succeed
19:21 OldCoder      You will be able to play the world offline without export
19:21 OldCoder      Anyway hold on
19:22 OdnetninI     ok
19:23 OdnetninI     pass me
19:23 OldCoder      ?
19:23 OdnetninI     nothing sorry
19:24 OldCoder      thexyz, migrate to sqlite3 prints normal output and seems to work but the output is only 3KB in size
19:26 OldCoder      OdnetninI, here is what I propose. Your current buildings will be saved and not deleted. I will revert 4 days. If I can build a LevelDB client or fix export to SQLite3 you will receive a copy of the world. Is this acceptable?
19:26 OdnetninI     Yes
19:26 OldCoder      Very well
19:26 OdnetninI     but
19:26 OldCoder      Go on
19:26 OdnetninI     I can't build a LevelBG client
19:26 OldCoder      I can
19:27 OldCoder      If *I* can build one is what I said
19:27 OldCoder      It is my responsibility
19:27 OldCoder      As the format is not standard here yet
19:27 OdnetninI     ok
19:28 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIop055eJhU&feature=related Aw, she's so cute~ and so lethal~
19:30 NekoGloop     RealBadAngel: tis a working jeweling table. :P
19:31 NekoGloop     Now i just have to make it work regardless of the slot you put the gem/tool into.
19:31 NekoGloop     :3
19:31 NekoGloop     and fix the formspec too, it kinda goofed up with where i put the button.
19:37 sokomine      hi
19:38 NekoGloop     hello sokomine
19:38 sokomine      how are the gems progressing?
19:38 NekoGloop     I'm making a jeweling table ATM
19:38 NekoGloop     so encrusting isnt done in the inventory. :3
19:39 NekoGloop     also makes wear transfer properly.
19:40 sokomine      ok :-)
19:40 NekoGloop     working surprisingly well.
19:41 NekoGloop     except that the formspec insists on looking like crap
19:41 sokomine      takes some getting used to. took me some time to get the input line for the shared locked objects halfway acceptable as far as design is concerned
19:42 NekoGloop     I mean the button seems to place itself in the formspec.
19:42 NekoGloop     completely ignoring the x and y i specify.
19:42 sokomine      oh? sounds strange
19:44 NekoGloop     Some Exception: There's a problem, but I'm not gonna tell you what it is.
19:45 sokomine      :-) know that as well
19:46 NekoGloop     minetest.register_craft({ 	output = "gems:jeweling_table", 	recipe = { 		{"gloopores:akalin_ingot","gloopores:akalin_ingot","gloopores:akalin_ingot"}, 		{"default:wood","group:gem","default:wood"}, 		{"default:wood","default:wood","default:wood"} 	} })
19:47 Doc22         NekoGloop want to play with me
19:47 Doc22         I can now
19:47 Doc22         for a long time
19:47 NekoGloop     busy.
19:47 Doc22         ok
19:47 Doc22         with a mod?
19:48 NekoGloop     gems.
19:48 Doc22         cool
19:48 Doc22         want some help
19:48 Doc22         I can do textures
19:48 Doc22         or whatever
19:49 NekoGloop     hm... I need a better wood texture for my texture pack, but i think what I'm dealing with is a tad beyond a beginning modder. Sorry :/
19:50 sokomine      there are always texture requests in the forum
19:50 NekoGloop     sokomine: note to self: when changing a formspec, re-place all nodes with said formspec.
19:50 Doc22         ok
19:51 Doc22         what is the code
19:51 Doc22         i might be able to learn from it
19:51 sokomine      right. and when operating with doors remember to make sure they can identify their top counterpart. makes intresting stacks of doors otherwise :-)
19:51 Doc22         heh heh
19:52 NekoGloop     sokomine: like digging the top of the door and have it remove what's above it?
19:52 sokomine      doc22: if you have an idea for a good mod you might write it yourshelf. lua isn't terribly complicated (at least not for simple things)
19:52 Doc22         yeah
19:53 Doc22         I just would probably need some help if I got started making generation scripts
19:53 sokomine      more like opening a door that doesn't know that it's the bottom part that got punched and puts a new door-top on top of the existing one...
19:53 Doc22         or something
19:53 Doc22         lol
19:53 Doc22         i see that happening
19:53 sokomine      generation scripts?
19:54 NekoGloop     I made steel doors.
19:54 NekoGloop     and when you dig the top, it breaks what's above it.
19:54 NekoGloop     (steel doors being ones only opened by mesecons.)
19:55 sokomine      at least it was easy to fix. but did look funny ingame
19:56 NekoGloop     sokomine: he means ores.
19:56 sokomine      ah, ok
19:57 sokomine      and what kind of ores?
19:57 Doc22         any
19:57 Doc22         like what are the variables
19:57 Doc22         im looking at the code for diamonds mod
19:58 Doc22         and it has variables like name, wherein, minp, maxp, seed, chunks_per_volume, ore_per_chunk, height_min, height_max
19:58 Doc22         can you tell me what they are (excluding obvious like seed and ore per chunk)
19:59 Doc22         and I understand lua
19:59 Doc22         i just dont get what the variables are for
20:00 Doc22         so sokamine can you tell me what chunks_per_volume, minp, maxp are?
20:00 Doc22         and heightmin is from -31000 roght
20:00 NekoGloop     minp maxp and seed are handled by minetest proper.
20:00 Doc22         right*
20:00 Doc22         ok
20:01 NekoGloop     heightmin is the lowest you can find the ore
20:01 NekoGloop     heightmax is the highest.
20:01 Doc22         ok
20:01 Doc22         so 10
20:01 Doc22         is 10 blocks under
20:01 NekoGloop     10 is 10 blocks above sea level.
20:01 Doc22         ok
20:01 NekoGloop     not below.
20:01 Doc22         and -10 is 10 bleow
20:01 Doc22         ok
20:01 NekoGloop     yes.
20:01 Doc22         thanks
20:02 Doc22         hrmmm now to read the function
20:02 Doc22         wtfpl means you can use the code right
20:02 NekoGloop     yes.
20:02 Doc22         ok
20:02 NekoGloop     "whatever the fuck you want public liscence"
20:03 Doc22         lol
20:03 OldCoder      Doc22, Hi!
20:03 Doc22         hey oldcoder
20:03 OldCoder      I am updating things a bit ATM
20:03 Doc22         lol
20:03 OldCoder      ?
20:04 Doc22         i lol too much
20:04 OldCoder      k
20:04 Doc22         I need help...
20:04 OldCoder      What help?
20:04 Doc22         (not really)
20:04 OldCoder      State the issue
20:04 OldCoder      Ah
20:04 Doc22         get it? (winks)
20:04 OldCoder      No
20:04 OldCoder      <--- literal
20:04 OldCoder      I do not get it
20:05 Doc22         like when peopple say "you need help....."
20:05 OldCoder      Yes?
20:05 Doc22         hrmmm
20:05 Doc22         i need to not lol so much
20:05 OldCoder      k
20:05 Doc22         haha
20:05 Doc22         funny
20:05 OldCoder      ?
20:05 Doc22         (why is that funny to me)
20:05 OldCoder      I don't know
20:05 Doc22         i am so crazy
20:05 OldCoder      nah
20:06 OldCoder      Wild and Crazy Guy
20:06 OldCoder      I guess that is old now
20:06 Doc22         having adhd my head always feels like windows feels when the desktop is completely filled with icons
20:07 Doc22         thoughts buzz all over
20:07 OldCoder      Crowded
20:07 Doc22         i cant concentrate on homework
20:07 OldCoder      I know a woman...
20:07 OldCoder      She has icons on icons on icons
20:07 OldCoder      Is it like that?
20:07 Doc22         lolololol
20:07 Doc22         nah its just like when i focus on something i dont like
20:07 Doc22         i have trouble
20:07 OldCoder      And?
20:07 Doc22         because my thoughts change
20:08 OldCoder      All right
20:08 Doc22         but when its something i enjoy
20:08 Doc22         or i see that it has a big purpose
20:08 OldCoder      Better then?
20:08 Doc22         i have no problems
20:08 Doc22         yah
20:08 Doc22         yeah*
20:08 OldCoder      k
20:09 NekoGloop     http://imageshack.us/g/1/9855697/ Before and after encrusting images.
20:09 Doc22         looks good
20:10 NekoGloop     wear transfers as well.
20:10 Doc22         nice
20:10 NekoGloop     < should have done thatbut oh well.
20:10 NekoGloop     Makes it so you dont magically repair your tool with the gem encrusting.
20:10 Doc22         how do you make a new machine
20:10 OldCoder      NekoGloop, I am trying to reconcile T_A_N_K patch and different versions
20:10 NekoGloop     oh?
20:10 OldCoder      babyface1031, hi
20:10 OldCoder      And build everything
20:10 NekoGloop     this isnt a technic machine.
20:10 OldCoder      For both Linux and Windows
20:10 babyface1031  hi
20:10 Doc22         i mean gui for a block
20:10 Doc22         :P
20:11 Doc22         lol
20:11 NekoGloop     Doc22: I see.
20:11 Doc22         i say things i dont mean
20:11 NekoGloop     It's a bit complicated.
20:11 Doc22         hey babyface
20:11 Doc22         ok
20:11 Doc22         are you going to post the mod
20:11 Doc22         if so then ill just look at the mod
20:11 NekoGloop     as a redone gems mod, yes.
20:11 Doc22         ok
20:11 Doc22         awesome
20:11 NekoGloop     btw, crafting of the jeweler's table:
20:12 NekoGloop     AAA
20:12 NekoGloop     WGW
20:12 NekoGloop     WWW
20:12 NekoGloop     A=Akalin Ingot, W=Wood, G=Any of the gems.
20:12 Doc22         kewl
20:12 Doc22         you should make it so that there are different ones for each gen
20:12 Doc22         gem
20:12 Doc22         and they have different stats
20:12 Doc22         or something
20:13 NekoGloop     Nah, too overly-complex.
20:13 Doc22         lol
20:13 NekoGloop     For both me and the player.
20:13 Doc22         heh heh
20:13 NekoGloop     hm...
20:13 NekoGloop     I like the default wood image...
20:13 Doc22         yeah
20:13 NekoGloop     Should i keep that as my wood image?
20:13 Doc22         looks good
20:13 Doc22         yeah
20:13 Doc22         i like that one
20:14 NekoGloop     alright.
20:14 Doc22         looks better than minecraft is all i can say
20:14 Doc22         and neko
20:14 NekoGloop     tbh the two look pretty similar to me.
20:14 Doc22         when you want a break or you are done
20:14 Doc22         then play with me
20:14 Doc22         yeha
20:14 NekoGloop     Doc22: I dont like animals though :l
20:14 Doc22         i like the mt one better though
20:14 Doc22         i took them out
20:15 Doc22         too annoying
20:15 Doc22         lol
20:15 Doc22         so no more annoyance
20:15 Doc22         :)
20:15 Doc22         :D
20:15 Doc22         :)
20:15 Doc22         :D
20:15 NekoGloop     If you have an older version of gems mod, this version -will- break it.
20:15 Doc22         hrmmmmmm (NO BAD OCD)
20:15 Doc22         ok
20:16 Doc22         adhd + ocd
20:16 Doc22         wierd combo
20:16 NekoGloop     yet common.
20:16 Doc22         lol
20:17 NekoGloop     http://ompldr.org/vZzZrcg :3
20:19 Doc22         lol just read the symptoms of aspergers syndrome
20:19 Doc22         might have it...
20:19 NekoGloop     http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297
20:19 Doc22         but i control it and my ocd
20:19 Doc22         and the adhd
20:19 Doc22         for the most part
20:20 Doc22         whats wierd is that im a person with this
20:20 Doc22         looking at myself in 3rd person
20:20 Doc22         diagnosing myself...
20:20 iqualfragile  doc22: no, you dont have it otherwise you would neither be in this chatroom nor say lol
20:20 Doc22         lol is a habit
20:20 NekoGloop     aspergers?
20:21 Doc22         and i feel all the symptoms on that page
20:21 Doc22         but i control it
20:22 Doc22         and i have been having trouble coming up with sentences
20:22 Doc22         idk if i d
20:22 Doc22         do
20:22 Doc22         but if i do
20:22 Doc22         then i control the psycological things
20:23 Doc22         I heavily think about my thoughts (seems stupid) in third person
20:23 Doc22         maybe that is why I am still sociable
20:23 NekoGloop     or maybe you are thinking too much.
20:23 Doc22         maybe
20:24 Doc22         whatever it is
20:24 Doc22         i feel the symptoms
20:24 Doc22         but i lock them away
20:24 Doc22         in the depths of my mind
20:24 Doc22         to haunt me forever
20:25 jin_xi        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-consciousness mybe this?
20:25 jin_xi        *a
20:26 Doc22         reading it
20:27 Doc22         so that explains why I feel embarrased when my dad sees me around girls...
20:29 OldCoder      babyface1031, See lPM about gem mod
20:29 OldCoder      <Doc22> to haunt me forever
20:29 OldCoder      That's a long time
20:29 NekoGloop     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X17i0K5gc3g&feature=context-vrec
20:32 Doc22         .....
20:33 Doc22         does your mod have emeralds
20:33 Doc22         and rubys
20:33 Doc22         and sapphires
20:33 NekoGloop     yes.
20:33 Doc22         awwww
20:33 NekoGloop     and amethysts.
20:33 Doc22         i was making a texture
20:33 NekoGloop     and topazes.
20:33 NekoGloop     keep making it
20:33 rubenwardy    My games first ever screenshot: http://multa.bugs3.com/upload/first_game_screenshot.png
20:34 NekoGloop     I'll be damned if i know where to start on that for my texture pack.
20:34 rubenwardy    gtg
20:34 OldCoder      NekoGloop, RealBadAngel, VanessaE, thexyz If anybody sees thexyz in core dev channel: I am attempting builds of the latest thexyz stuff. I also request he look at exporting to sqlite3 which does not seem to work.
20:34 OldCoder      NekoGloop, gems are going into the worlds on the next restart
20:34 NekoGloop     sweet.
20:34 Jordach       rubenwardy - points for ms c++
20:35 NekoGloop     points for windows.
20:35 Doc22         rubenwardy looks cool
20:35 NekoGloop     My ore texture for the gems looks butt-ugly :P
20:36 OldCoder      it will improve
20:36 rubenwardy    bye
20:36 OldCoder      Bye
20:36 jin_xi        http://www.youtube.com/user/JMEMantzel this guy plays MT in real life
20:37 jin_xi        and now hes making a game about it
20:39 Octupus       Hola
20:39 Doc22         http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/Emerald_overlay.png
20:39 Doc22         emerald
20:39 Octupus       cool
20:39 Doc22         use it if you want
20:39 Doc22         (nekogloop
20:39 Doc22         )
20:39 NekoGloop     hrm...
20:39 NekoGloop     personally i like what i have better :/
20:39 NekoGloop     sorry.
20:39 Doc22         lol
20:39 Doc22         i dont care
20:40 Doc22         but i dont want to copy your ore
20:40 NekoGloop     like old gems did? It had diamonds :P
20:41 Doc22         hrmmmmm
20:41 Doc22         lol
20:41 babyface1031  hi Octupus
20:41 Doc22         maybe i should make a birthstones mod
20:42 Doc22         with every birthstone
20:42 Octupus       hello babyface1031
20:42 NekoGloop     you'd still step on (every one of) my gems :P
20:44 Octupus       i miss cornernote
20:55 OldCoder      Octupus, Hi
20:55 Octupus       Hello OldCoder
20:56 OldCoder      Octupus, Hi
20:56 Octupus       :D
20:57 Octupus       hi babyface1031_
20:58 babyface1031_ hi
20:59 Octupus       is the server up?
21:02 babyface1031_ i think it is being updates
21:03 Octupus       ok
21:03 Octupus       :)
21:05 Octupus       lalal hw
21:13 OldCoder      21:12:29: ERROR[main]: cannot open /opt/minetest043/share/minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/technic/item_pickup.lua: No such file or directory
21:13 OldCoder      RealBadAngel, ^
21:14 Octupus       OBAMA WOOT
21:14 Octupus       MITT ROMNEY LOST :D
21:14 OldCoder      Did he?
21:14 OldCoder      O.K.
21:14 Kray          ohne romney
21:15 Octupus       didnt u see the election in the states OldCoder ?
21:15 OldCoder      Too busy
21:15 Octupus       :0
21:15 Octupus       Obama won though :)
21:16 Octupus       they were giving votes to mitt romney just because he was white
21:16 Octupus       :l
21:16 OldCoder      Yes
21:17 Octupus       but he won by alot
21:17 OldCoder      k
21:18 OldCoder      Worlds are restarted
21:18 OldCoder      Please test
21:18 OldCoder      There may be problems related to gems, item pickup, or technic
21:18 OldCoder      We need to check
21:19 Octupus       ok :)
21:20 OldCoder      I will return in a little while
21:20 Octupus       adios for now
21:55 Octupus       WOoooo
21:55 Octupus       Assassin Creed 3
22:15 Doc22_        working on the birthstones mod
22:15 Doc22_        i got all the ores done
22:16 Doc22_        and the items
22:16 Doc22_        now i need blocks and picks...
22:20 Doc22_        and generation...
22:21 Octupus       BOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
22:26 Doc22_        thanks
22:26 Doc22_        what is your birthstone?
22:26 Doc22_        octupus
22:26 Octupus       ?
22:26 Doc22_        what is your birthstone
22:26 Octupus       whats a birthstone
22:27 Doc22_        its a stone for each month
22:27 Doc22_        ie if you were born on january
22:27 Octupus       april
22:27 Octupus       i dont remeber the name
22:27 Doc22_        ok then it is..,
22:27 Doc22_        ok then it is.. DIAMOND
22:27 Doc22_        like that
22:28 Octupus       k
22:32 Doc22_        im happy with it so far
22:32 Doc22_        =)
22:32 babyface1031_ I cant mine mine D: yet
22:33 Doc22_        where
22:33 Doc22_        on a server?
22:34 babyface1031_ i am opal and in the gem mod it can be mined after -1024 and the world ends at -1000
22:35 Doc22_        what
22:35 Doc22_        hmmm
22:36 Doc22_        idk must be bugged
22:36 Doc22_        :/
22:56 Taoki         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51311#p51311 Today's summary on the models & attachments code. Best news is that massive segmentation faults were fixed, and client attachments are working for the first time.
22:57 Uberi         awesome, Taoki :)
22:57 Taoki         Thanks
22:57 Uberi         client attachments working completely?
22:57 NekoGloop     Meow?
22:58 Taoki         Uberi: Not quite. Bone attachments only work by half. Also, if the parent disconnects / disappears, attachments go to origin 0,0,0. Ither than that, they work completely
22:58 Uberi         neat
23:00 Doc22_        Nekogloop
23:00 Doc22_        i made block textures
23:00 Doc22_        and ore textures
23:00 Doc22_        and item textures
23:00 Doc22_        for the birthstone mod
23:00 Doc22_        should i make pick
23:00 Doc22_        textues too
23:00 NekoGloop     make whatever you like
23:00 Doc22_        idk if i want to make 12 more pick textures
23:00 Doc22_        do you think it would be worth it
23:01 NekoGloop     12 more of each tool.
23:01 NekoGloop     Seems legit.
23:01 Doc22_        yeah...
23:01 Doc22_        lol
23:01 NekoGloop     http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51297#p51297
23:01 Doc22_        nice
23:01 Doc22_        looking cool
23:35 Doc22_        got the blocks done and the recipes
23:35 Doc22_        phew
23:35 Doc22_        now ima enjoy it
23:35 Doc22_        :)
23:35 Doc22_        i could make my mod compatible with your mod
23:35 Doc22_        nekogloop
23:35 Doc22_        if you want
23:35 NekoGloop     how?
23:35 NekoGloop     by allowing -12- gems to be encrusted?
23:35 NekoGloop     u crazy?
23:36 NekoGloop     imagine the amount of things that would register!
23:36 Doc22_        oh my
23:36 Doc22_        ok
23:36 Doc22_        lol
23:36 Doc22_        i thought you had algorithm or something...
23:36 Doc22_        i make algorithm for my thing
23:36 Doc22_        that creates the textures
23:36 Doc22_        >:D
23:36 Doc22_        maybe
23:36 Doc22_        >:D
23:37 NekoGloop     i have a set of overlays that create the textures for the tools, yes.
23:37 Doc22_        oh ok
23:37 NekoGloop     gems_sword_topaz for example.
23:37 Doc22_        lol
23:37 Doc22_        i understand overlays
23:37 Doc22_        i use them in my mod
23:39 Doc22_        oh and nekogloop i made an algorithm for the registering as well
23:39 NekoGloop     Had you looked at my code?
23:39 Doc22_        nope
23:40 Doc22_        just saying
23:40 * Doc22_      chuckles quietly
23:40 NekoGloop     then that would be why this is old news to me :3
23:40 Doc22_        ok
23:40 * NekoGloop   uses a registration for-loop.
23:40 Doc22_        lol
23:43 Doc22_        is anything wrong with my code? http://pastebin.com/t8vAKCg4
23:43 Doc22_        it wont add the recipes
23:43 Doc22_        nekogloop
23:43 Doc22_        http://pastebin.com/t8vAKCg4
23:43 Doc22_        wont work...
23:43 VanessaE      hi all.
23:43 Doc22_        hey
23:44 VanessaE      just stopping by for a few minutes
23:44 Uberi         hi VanessaE
23:44 Doc22_        lol
23:44 NekoGloop     Doc22_: check to make sure that you spelled everything right.
23:44 Doc22_        okay
23:45 NekoGloop     You can condense a condenser in MC tekkit. XD
23:46 Doc22_        lol
23:47 VanessaE      yeah but if you get the evaporator hot enough, will it evaporate? ;-)
23:48 NekoGloop     ... evaporator?
23:48 Doc22_        IM SO STUPID
23:48 Doc22_        i forgot to save it
23:48 Doc22_        :P
23:48 VanessaE      a condenser and evaporator are parts of an air conditioning system.  I was trying to be funny.
23:49 VanessaE      EPIC FAIL. :-)\
23:49 Doc22_        D:
23:49 Octupus       Hello VanessaE
23:49 VanessaE      hey Uberi and Octupus btw :-)
23:49 Octupus       :)
23:52 Doc22_        D:
23:52 Doc22_        unexpected symbol at line...
23:52 Doc22_        256
23:52 Doc22_        (notepad
23:52 Octupus       ok
23:52 Doc22_        )
23:52 OldCoder      ?
23:52 Doc22_        oh i know
23:52 Octupus       its )} to close a line
23:52 Doc22_        i paste into pastebin
23:52 Doc22_        it has lines
23:52 Octupus       Hello OldCoder :)
23:52 Doc22_        hey Oldcoder
23:52 OldCoder      Hi
23:52 Uberi         hey OldCoder
23:52 OldCoder      Uberi hello!
23:53 Octupus       :)
23:53 VanessaE      Something happened over the past few weeks that made people wake up, didn't it?  Obama gets re-elected, Marijuana is legalized in Colorado, Canada tones down the strictness of their copyright laws, celeron55 gives a few people push access to the mainstream repos, and a bunch more.  wow.
23:54 VanessaE      did I wake up in an alternate universe or something? :-)
23:54 Uberi         it's been a crazy time
23:54 Uberi         but then, isn't it always?
23:54 VanessaE      heh
23:54 NekoGloop     VanessaE: welcome to 2150
23:55 VanessaE      haha
23:56 Octupus       hello LandMine
23:56 Doc22_        it works
23:56 LandMine      wassssup
23:56 Doc22_        now that i saved it....
23:56 Uberi         o/ LandMine
23:56 LandMine      doc i like your mod
23:56 LandMine      its boss
23:56 Octupus       YESSS
23:56 VanessaE      ...
23:56 Octupus       WEED IS LEGALIZED IN COLORADO WOOT
23:56 Octupus       joke :)
23:56 LandMine      your 13
23:56 VanessaE      Octupus: yep.  good luck getting the feds to leave Coloradoans alone though.
23:56 LandMine      you dont smoke lol
23:56 NekoGloop     ban him... ban him... ban him...
23:56 LandMine      why?
23:57 LandMine      your the one being negative
23:57 Octupus       dont be getting in ma grill :)
23:57 LandMine      i already made up with everyone
23:57 * VanessaE    charges up, just in case.
23:57 NekoGloop     riiight.
23:57 Uberi         oh man I can't believe they finally stopped wasting money on that
23:57 LandMine      dont worry lol
23:57 Uberi         VanessaE's firin' up the lazer!
23:57 Octupus       Obama beat mitt romney woot
23:57 LandMine      thats what i heard
23:57 VanessaE      Uberi: well, in that state - that's only 1 of about 58 states/territories :-/
23:58 NekoGloop      56
23:58 LandMine      NekoGloop how is that bot comming along :p
23:58 Uberi         still, a penny saved is... something something something
23:58 VanessaE      yup/
23:58 NekoGloop     LandMine: deleted.
23:58 LandMine      sure hehe
23:58 Octupus       XD that guy in assassin creed 3 got ran over XD