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Time Nick Message
00:00 JangoFett154 i didnt
00:00 VanessaE jango: maybe it's "save target as..."
00:01 khonkhortisan try ctrl-s
00:01 JangoFett154 yes VanessaE i just tried and it worked
00:01 VanessaE when you right click the file in the list I gave you in the web page
00:01 VanessaE see?  told you.
00:01 khonkhortisan Now where does this worldedit file go?
00:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: inside minetestfolder/mods/minetest/worldedit
00:02 VanessaE if memory serves.  it's been a while since I last used it to load/save files
00:02 khonkhortisan I should have a test.we somewhere
00:03 khonkhortisan oh maybe it's in the world
00:03 JangoFett154 Vanessa you did not tell me a think i fugred it out then came to chat then you said that
00:03 VanessaE the path got changed?
00:03 khonkhortisan yep, ~/.minetest/worlds/snth/schems/test.we
00:03 JangoFett154 omg now it says it wont load
00:04 VanessaE JangoFett154: [10-16 19:56] <VanessaE> any random browser can download a file. :-)
00:04 khonkhortisan meta.wem test.we test.wem
00:04 JangoFett154 [19:58] <@VanessaE> internet explorer isn't a random browser - it's a piece of crap ;)
00:04 JangoFett154 <@VanessaE> internet explorer isn't a random browser
00:05 NakedFury what is wrong here: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6kidvov0z
00:05 VanessaE that was a joke, duh :-)
00:05 NakedFury that is on oldcoders first server and it keeps happening even after relogin
00:05 VanessaE NakedFury: looks like mapgen lag
00:05 VanessaE or you're half-buried
00:05 khonkhortisan you are in the ground and the water doesn't look connected, but that might be because the water is touching the surface of the cave toward you
00:05 NakedFury a 10 minute lag?
00:05 VanessaE try jumping
00:06 khonkhortisan you might have to dig out
00:06 NakedFury im jumping like a rabbit and moving all over the place
00:06 NakedFury only that area is like that
00:06 VanessaE weird
00:06 VanessaE which server is that on?
00:06 NakedFury minetest.org 30k port
00:07 NakedFury server zero
00:07 VanessaE OldCoder: well, there's your port-30000 issue :-)
00:07 NakedFury maybe that is why it kept rolling back all I did
00:08 NakedFury lost like 8 stacks of sandstone to that but if I found the bug im happy
00:08 VanessaE yup, that's severe lag, sounds like the server's locked up or something
00:09 khonkhortisan haha not allowing to replace air and an upside-down house.
00:10 VanessaE figures.
00:10 VanessaE I don't have the link to the 0.5 version of the house
00:10 khonkhortisan if there's a //flip a newer version could be made
00:10 VanessaE (he exported those files to 0.5 for me, but I don't have local copies thereof)
00:11 OldCoder ?
00:11 OldCoder Reading
00:11 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6kidvov0z
00:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan , JangoFett154 try this one:  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_2J6-jZFt5oNHZsQ0l3UTBXUVE/edit?pli=1
00:13 VanessaE that might be the 0.5 version; my web history is unclear
00:13 * khonkhortisan learned today how to recover from a failed git merge
00:15 khonkhortisan that filename is missing its capitals
00:17 khonkhortisan same version
00:20 OldCoder khonkhortisan, which mods do you figure are doing this?
00:21 RealBadAngel NakedFury, it looks EXACTLY like the place im spawning in the 30000
00:22 NakedFury yes your base
00:22 RealBadAngel and cannot do anything
00:22 RealBadAngel blocks never gets loaded
00:23 OldCoder Is there a change that I should make?
00:23 OldCoder
00:24 OldCoder BTW For everybody: I have fixed some of the crashes in Town Test. My copy will be public for download soon. I am putting all of my modsets online for download.
00:24 OldCoder
00:24 RealBadAngel cornernote updated it?
00:24 RealBadAngel i mean towntest
00:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, no. I did.
00:25 OldCoder World 30011 died permanently last night
00:25 OldCoder Could not be revived
00:25 OldCoder Problem was a rogue TownTest NPC
00:25 RealBadAngel lol
00:25 OldCoder I found a bunch of nil pointer deferences
00:25 OldCoder So my version should be safer
00:25 OldCoder He'll get the source and can merge if he wishes
00:25 OldCoder From now on
00:25 RealBadAngel NPC's revenge for leting him to much work?
00:26 OldCoder When I rebuild the worlds, all of the modsets will be rebuilt and posted automatically
00:26 OldCoder Possibly
00:27 RealBadAngel OldCoder,i do have one thing to test online
00:27 OldCoder Fine
00:27 RealBadAngel could we?
00:27 OldCoder Of course
00:27 OldCoder Today was difficult
00:27 RealBadAngel lemme prepare the git
00:27 OldCoder Slept 5 hours starting at 7am
00:28 OldCoder Here for the next 6 hours though
00:28 OldCoder Occupied elsewhere but can fix MT
00:30 RealBadAngel ok, git rdy to go
00:30 RealBadAngel do it just on EU
00:30 RealBadAngel can you backup world first?
00:33 OldCoder EU first and yes
00:33 khonkhortisan I flipped the house and now there's water falling out the bottom
00:33 RealBadAngel so do the backup please
00:33 RealBadAngel in case of fail we could go back then
00:34 OldCoder Sure
00:34 RealBadAngel its not just a new tool or somethin
00:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Looking for my ssh window
00:35 RealBadAngel its bout world generation
00:35 OldCoder Found it
00:35 OldCoder Yes
00:35 OldCoder Going down
00:35 RealBadAngel k
00:35 OldCoder Backup in progress
00:35 OldCoder Fast because just one world
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00:39 OldCoder RealBadAngel, restarting EU with new Technic
00:39 OldCoder eventually this will be much faster
00:39 RealBadAngel k
00:39 OldCoder RealBadAngel, broken
00:39 OldCoder I will analyze shortly
00:40 RealBadAngel logs?
00:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Yes
00:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am ultratasked ATM
00:44 OldCoder and exhausted. But this is fun. We will work on things shortly.
00:44 RealBadAngel ok, can wait
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00:45 OldCoder AndrewPH, hi
00:46 OldCoder anunakki, hi
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00:49 VanessaE khonkhortisan: oh, thanks :-)
00:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, try now please
00:54 OldCoder It was something I didn't know about the game
00:54 RealBadAngel ok
00:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will be busy elsewhere for about 15 minutes but can update repeatedly thereafter
00:54 RealBadAngel what was that?
00:54 OldCoder maybe
00:55 VanessaE bbl
00:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that if you rename a mod folder to have a period MT does not like it
00:55 RealBadAngel indeed
00:56 RealBadAngel cant connect
00:56 RealBadAngel connectin now
00:58 OldCoder k
01:03 RealBadAngel OldCoder, are you sure you have updated technic?
01:03 RealBadAngel it looks like you didnt
01:06 RealBadAngel yeah, definitely
01:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I did
01:10 OldCoder Hold on
01:10 RealBadAngel please redo
01:10 OldCoder Of course
01:10 OldCoder That was the hold on part
01:11 RealBadAngel :)
01:11 OldCoder Deleted old technic
01:11 RealBadAngel im sure you didnt because even node definition is not here
01:11 OldCoder poof
01:11 RealBadAngel maybe we just desynced
01:11 OldCoder https://nodeload.github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/zipball/master
01:11 OldCoder downloaded that
01:12 RealBadAngel now it looks ok
01:12 OldCoder Unpacked
01:12 OldCoder Renamed
01:12 OldCoder Restarting
01:14 RealBadAngel now its here
01:14 RealBadAngel it was desync :)
01:14 RealBadAngel lets explore some
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01:15 OldCoder Muadtralk, wb
01:16 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what is desync?
01:16 RealBadAngel out of synchronization
01:16 RealBadAngel you have dowloaded technic before ive updated it
01:16 OldCoder k
01:19 RealBadAngel it works, causes one time lags, but not really somethin new to minetest
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01:19 RealBadAngel we do have now nice marble caves
01:20 RealBadAngel lemme play a bit more with it
01:20 RealBadAngel i think i made it too common
01:21 OldCoder RealBadAngel, j
01:21 OldCoder k
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01:21 RealBadAngel im disconnectin now
01:21 RealBadAngel please restore backup
01:24 RealBadAngel OldCoder, updated git with changes, please apply
01:24 RealBadAngel wb sdzen
01:25 OldCoder Hi
01:25 sdzen ive been back
01:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, proceeding
01:25 RealBadAngel that was short "a few hours" :)
01:26 OldCoder RealBadAngel, restarting
01:26 RealBadAngel sdzen, together with OldCoder we are testin now marble generation on online server
01:26 sdzen good
01:27 RealBadAngel now ive lowered the chance
01:27 RealBadAngel there were too many of it
01:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, k
01:28 RealBadAngel OldCoder, connecting
01:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, cycles will get faster
01:28 OldCoder I just have not automated Europe yet
01:29 RealBadAngel i halved the chances to generate it
01:29 RealBadAngel so lags should be halved as well
01:29 leo_rockw die forum ist kaput! D:
01:29 leo_rockw DON'T PANIC
01:30 sdzen PANIC!
01:30 sdzen i forgot my towel
01:31 leo_rockw I never read THHGTTG
01:31 leo_rockw I should
01:31 sdzen you should
01:32 RealBadAngel run! run four your LIVES!
01:32 RealBadAngel and remember! dont panic at all
01:32 leo_rockw I listened to the first chapter in audio book.
01:33 OldCoder RealBadAngel, how is it working now?
01:34 RealBadAngel well, i must say its cool
01:34 OldCoder Functioning correctly?
01:34 RealBadAngel i will have to adapt perlin noise to it later on
01:34 RealBadAngel but yes
01:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Play a bit more
01:34 RealBadAngel its workin fine
01:34 RealBadAngel playin
01:35 OldCoder Decide when to update main worlds
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01:35 OldCoder sdzen, wb
01:35 RealBadAngel lemme dig a few minutes more
01:39 RealBadAngel OldCoder, please redownload the mod, restore backup and start it again
01:40 RealBadAngel im tryin now to minimalize the lag effect
01:40 OldCoder RealBadAngel, om
01:41 RealBadAngel a sec with mod
01:41 RealBadAngel forgot to press "sync" lmao
01:41 RealBadAngel in sync now
01:50 RealBadAngel OldCoder, ?
01:50 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi
01:50 OldCoder Ready?
01:51 OldCoder Want EU test?
01:51 RealBadAngel hehe, yes
01:51 OldCoder k
01:55 OldCoder RealBadAngel, restarting
01:55 RealBadAngel k
01:59 RealBadAngel OldCoder, crash?
01:59 OldCoder RealBadAngel, reviewing
01:59 OldCoder Yes
02:00 RealBadAngel log?
02:00 OldCoder Checking
02:00 OldCoder ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: PseudoRandom.next(): max < mi
02:00 OldCoder 03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]: stack traceback:
02:00 OldCoder 03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  [C]: in function 'next'
02:00 OldCoder 03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/technic/
02:00 OldCoder 03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/technic/
02:00 OldCoder Sorry for long pastet
02:00 OldCoder *paste
02:02 RealBadAngel ok, changed the values, restore backup, redowload mod
02:03 RealBadAngel now it should be just fine
02:03 RealBadAngel that will be last test for today i think
02:03 RealBadAngel need to go soon
02:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, shall we test?
02:04 OldCoder No?
02:04 OldCoder Should I update EU?
02:04 RealBadAngel yes
02:04 RealBadAngel update it
02:05 RealBadAngel now everything shall work fine
02:05 OldCoder Restarting
02:05 OldCoder Famouse lastt warods
02:05 RealBadAngel lol
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02:07 RealBadAngel not really, got message "bad..." something
02:07 RealBadAngel dunno whats bad :)
02:07 RealBadAngel nah, my side
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02:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel, k
02:08 OldCoder Works?
02:09 RealBadAngel testing
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02:09 jimmy1 can someone tell me whether the forum is supposed to be up, I keep getting a error
02:10 OldCoder jimmy1, Hi
02:10 OldCoder The MySQL database server seems to be down
02:10 jimmy1 G'Day
02:10 OldCoder It is not you
02:11 RealBadAngel ok, it works
02:11 RealBadAngel im goin afk now, thx OldCoder for help
02:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, OK
02:11 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will wait
02:11 OldCoder To update main
02:12 OldCoder Until you test further
02:12 OldCoder
02:12 RealBadAngel after i got back from work i will add more stuff to world gen
02:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, All right
02:12 OldCoder Bbut
02:12 OldCoder But
02:12 OldCoder stabilize this version first maybe
02:12 OldCoder Test it
02:12 RealBadAngel yeah, by now leave it on EU just
02:12 OldCoder Before new features
02:12 OldCoder Yes
02:12 OldCoder C U
02:12 RealBadAngel cya
02:13 NakedFury was the problem fixed at server zero
02:13 OldCoder NakedFury, I have been waiting
02:13 OldCoder I posted a question far above
02:14 OldCoder I asked
02:14 OldCoder Should I change anything?
02:14 OldCoder What would you request or suggest?
02:14 OldCoder I am at your disposal
02:14 NakedFury ohh didnt see that
02:14 NakedFury well I dont know. the problem is that nothing stays
02:14 OldCoder NakedFury, Wait
02:14 OldCoder I have heard this one other place
02:15 OldCoder One of the mod updates may be bad
02:15 OldCoder Any clues?
02:15 NakedFury sadly no
02:15 OldCoder Hmm
02:15 NakedFury it just happened today
02:15 OldCoder I may need to downgrade mods
02:15 OldCoder Checking
02:18 jimmy1 I was going to ask this on the forum if it was working, is there any way to get cmake or src worlds to work properly(minimal works though) being I keep getting errors when I try playing in them
02:19 OldCoder jimmy1, yes
02:19 OldCoder jimmy1, I have often built them
02:19 OldCoder What is your OS?
02:19 OldCoder NakedFury, checking updated mods
02:20 NakedFury I hate cmake
02:20 OldCoder NakedFury, could it be mesecons?
02:20 OldCoder I updated that yesterday
02:20 OldCoder The other updates seem minor
02:21 jimmy1 fedora 17, i built from source since repo version 0.3.1
02:21 NakedFury tried a de upgrade
02:21 OldCoder NakedFury, ?
02:21 OldCoder NakedFury, explain
02:21 OldCoder Shall I downgrade mesecons?
02:21 NakedFury go back to last version
02:21 OldCoder Yes
02:21 OldCoder Wait
02:21 NakedFury yeah lets try that
02:22 OldCoder Rebuilding the worls
02:22 OldCoder *ds
02:24 OldCoder NakedFury, worlds rebuilt and restarting
02:24 NakedFury ok waiting ready for action
02:25 OldCoder mesecons downgraded about 10 days
02:25 OldCoder See if there is a change
02:25 jimmy1 the errors I get when I try playing are mainly to with trying to load images, is there anything you could suggest to fix it
02:26 OldCoder jimmy1, we'd need more information about the errors
02:26 OldCoder What happens?
02:26 OldCoder Oh
02:26 OldCoder jimmy1, build 0.4.3
02:26 OldCoder jimmy1, hold on
02:26 OldCoder just a moment
02:27 OldCoder jimmy1, do you have Fedora GNOME ?
02:27 OldCoder That version?
02:27 jimmy1 yes
02:27 NakedFury perhaps its a technic problem? the area with realbadangels chest and stuff is inaccesible
02:30 jimmy1 I have a screenshot of the error if it helps, I was going to include it in a forum post
02:32 * cornernote misses the forums :(
02:33 OldCoder jimmy1, Hi
02:33 OldCoder Excuse elay
02:33 OldCoder NakedFury, I will downgrade technic
02:34 OldCoder http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-12.10.08-0.noarch.rpm
02:34 OldCoder jimmy1, try that
02:34 OldCoder I may need to talk you through a few steps
02:36 OldCoder NakedFury, so mesecons wasn't it? Looking at technic
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02:37 OldCoder NakedFury, reverting Technic by about 4 days
02:37 OldCoder Worlds going down and up
02:39 OldCoder NakedFury, try now if you can
02:39 OldCoder Both Mesecons and Technic are reverted
02:39 OldCoder Most of the other changes are VanessaE mods
02:39 OldCoder Those seem unlikely to be the issue
02:40 OldCoder NakedFury, additionally I have not rebuilt the program itself recently
02:40 OldCoder Or made other VPS changes of significance
02:40 OldCoder So it's probably in the mods
02:40 OldCoder Unless it is database corruption
02:40 jimmy1 @oldcoder what is glsl?
02:41 OldCoder jimmy1, checking
02:41 NakedFury ok someone else should check that world. the spawn area stil is missing
02:41 NakedFury im gonna check around my place that has technic stuff
02:41 OldCoder jimmy1, It's a Fedora OpenGL thing. Looking for the package.
02:42 OldCoder jimmy1, are you getting an error message?
02:42 OldCoder What do you see?
02:43 jimmy1 when I start it in the command line is tells me GLSL not available
02:43 OldCoder k
02:43 OldCoder Thx
02:43 OldCoder Checking
02:44 OldCoder jimmy1, is that the only error message?
02:45 jimmy1 so far, yes
02:47 OldCoder It aborted?
02:49 jimmy1 no, just sit there with the last message displayed
02:49 OldCoder Oh
02:49 OldCoder jimmy1, what command did you type?
02:50 jimmy1 minetest
02:50 OldCoder In XOrg?
02:50 OldCoder No window has appeared?
02:50 jimmy1 in the gnome terminal
02:50 jimmy1 not so far, no
02:53 OldCoder Hmm
02:54 OldCoder So program runs and does not abort. But no window appears. I cannot help further. jimmy1 my advice is to build the program. I can probably talk you through it but not until next week.
02:54 OldCoder jimmy1, as an alternative
02:54 OldCoder Can you identify the exact ISO that was used to install your Fedora?
02:57 OldCoder NakedFury, has anybody else reported problems?
02:57 jimmy1 I had a look where I got the source from and turns out I didn't get minetest_game (didn't know I needed it to be honest) thanks for the help though
02:58 OldCoder I know of two cases who state things disappear
02:58 OldCoder Ah
02:58 OldCoder jimmy1, try the new RPM
02:58 OldCoder Unless
02:58 NakedFury dont know if anybody else conected
02:58 OldCoder the repo minetest_game works for you
02:58 jimmy1 I got it from github, does github have a repo?
03:00 OldCoder jimmy1, github has lots of repos
03:00 OldCoder jimmy1, you can try either 0.3 or 0.4 for MT
03:00 OldCoder jimmy1, wherever you get MT from
03:00 OldCoder Check for a version of minetest_game that matches
03:00 OldCoder In my case
03:00 OldCoder The RPM includes it
03:01 OldCoder But see if it's in the repos where you found 0.3
03:01 jimmy1 I didn't know that, I was trying to get latest version to have a go on a online server
03:02 OldCoder jimmy1, k
03:02 OldCoder jimmy1, the RPM I gave you is that
03:02 OldCoder Problem is no window
03:02 OldCoder Do you know how to check error logs?
03:03 OldCoder Hmm
03:03 OldCoder Look in $HOME/.minetest
03:03 OldCoder Does the folder exist yet?
03:03 jimmy1 the fedora repo only has 0.3.x, one moment
03:07 jimmy1 the version of minetest I compiled  get me a different error to the error I got when trying to run mine test after installing the rpm above
03:10 OldCoder
03:10 OldCoder jimmy1, Yes
03:10 OldCoder jimmy1, What sources did you compile from?
03:13 jimmy1 github, I working at the moment. the thing it won't let me do is free_move or fast_move
03:14 iqualfragile yeah, nobody uses 3.x anyways, you would not be able to play on any server using that
03:14 iqualfragile whene are you playing on? your own local game?
03:14 iqualfragile your own server?
03:14 iqualfragile or another ones server?
03:15 jimmy1 I was going to try on a online server if it ever connects
03:16 jimmy1 thanks for the help oldcoder
03:22 OldCoder Hi
03:22 OldCoder jimmy1, wait; what is the error then?
03:24 jimmy1 when I tried running after installing the above rpm it just told me GLSL not available, but that might just be a missing dependency on my end
03:25 OldCoder Yes
03:25 OldCoder Never mind the RPM
03:26 OldCoder I mean
03:26 OldCoder with your compiled version?
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03:27 ThisIsNotLandMin lololol\
03:28 ThisIsNotLandMin anyyone knowhow to install compile mt on centOS?
03:31 jimmy1 oh, I was getting could not load image errors when trying play in cmake or src worlds, I'll just stick with the minetest_game worlds, they seem to work
03:33 ThisIsNotLandMin same
03:34 OldCoder jimmy1, if you are still here, I am curious
03:34 OldCoder What do you mean by trying play in cmake or src worlds
03:34 OldCoder ?
03:37 jimmy1 when I create a new world it gave the game options cmakefiles, minimal development test and src, only minimal development test worlds worked
03:40 OldCoder
03:41 OldCoder jimmy1, this is interesting. Thank you. I don't know of these options. Somebody more qualified will need to comment.
03:42 OldCoder jimmy1, put a copy of the minetest_game folder
03:42 OldCoder in the same folder that contains the minimal folder
03:42 jimmy1 to change the subject slightly, how do I get fast_move and free_move privilages in a local game?
03:42 OldCoder You press the right keys
03:43 OldCoder I believe they are configurable
03:43 OldCoder Under Settings
03:43 OldCoder Try that screen
03:43 OldCoder Get the 0.4.3 minetest_game folder from git or minetest.net
03:43 OldCoder Unzip
03:43 OldCoder Copy to the right folder
03:43 OldCoder You may be in business
03:43 OldCoder
03:45 jimmy1 I tried the keys, but it tells me no fly priv and no fast priv
03:47 OldCoder jimmy1, do this
03:47 OldCoder jimmy1, I have not tried singleuser much
03:47 OldCoder but this should work
03:47 OldCoder Delete the world you created
03:47 OldCoder Edit your minetest.conf file
03:47 OldCoder Add this line
03:48 OldCoder name = jimmy
03:48 OldCoder or
03:48 OldCoder name = Jimmy
03:48 OldCoder choose one and be consistent
03:48 OldCoder Then create a new world
03:48 OldCoder Using that name
03:48 OldCoder This should give you full power
03:49 OldCoder or do this
03:49 OldCoder To the same file
03:49 OldCoder Add this line
03:49 OldCoder (wait)
03:50 OldCoder No...
03:50 OldCoder Alternative is
03:50 OldCoder To play the game once
03:50 OldCoder Exit
03:50 OldCoder edit minetest.conf
03:50 OldCoder Sorry
03:50 OldCoder I am tired jimmy1 and will skip the alternate procedure ATM
03:50 OldCoder Add the name = jimmy line
03:50 OldCoder Create a new world
03:51 OldCoder and join under that name
03:51 OldCoder What happens?
03:51 jimmy1 okay thanks for the help
03:51 OldCoder Good luck
03:51 OldCoder Let us know
03:52 jimmy1 I'll give it a go when I get back, thanks
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04:19 NakedFury found a good 64 frames animated torch
04:20 NakedFury all I need now is to edit them for all torch forms
04:20 BrandonReese Anybody know how long the forums are going to be down?
04:20 NakedFury until celeron55 fixes it I think
04:21 BrandonReese that's what I figured
04:22 NakedFury yeah
04:23 NakedFury not much we can do to minetest when he goes missing
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04:45 OldCoder anunakki, Hi
04:46 OldCoder NakedFury, what is the status of the problem; if you're here. Still occurring?
04:46 anunakki hi
04:47 * OldCoder will return a little later
04:48 * OldCoder requests more information about the problem with disappearing items as he wishes to fix it
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05:03 TheRedMoodWin Back
05:38 OldCoder Back
05:38 OldCoder Calinou, Back Welcome
05:38 OldCoder Has anybody noticed a problem where things disappear?
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06:12 * khonkhortisan was tricked by a website countdown timer
06:12 khonkhortisan it goes from 00:10 to 00:1 and back again
06:27 Calinou people in #bukkitdev @ espernet, especially the mojang employees, are very, very smart
06:27 Calinou let me quote that for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284456/
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06:30 VanessaE Calinou: lol
06:32 VanessaE Calinou: well now I see how you keep getting banned :-)
06:32 VanessaE * Calinou is now known as Trollinou
06:32 VanessaE :D
06:33 Calinou haven't been banned... for now...
06:33 OldCoder VanessaE, Calinou Hi
06:33 VanessaE hi OldCoder
06:33 OldCoder VanessaE, NakedRage and one or two others
06:34 OldCoder have reported an issue where things disappear
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06:34 OldCoder I downgraded Mesecons and Technic
06:34 OldCoder as I upgraded them yesterday when the problem is said to have started
06:34 OldCoder But it may persist
06:34 OldCoder I have no more information. Are you aware of the issue?
06:36 VanessaE I've seen it happen only when a server is badly laged
06:36 VanessaE lagged
06:36 Calinou I feel like talking to mark shuttleworth(less) in that channel ._.
06:36 VanessaE but nakedfury's issue seemed far worse than the usual lag - like 10+ minutes of that half-loaded map even after signing off/on once or twice
06:36 Calinou VanessaE: ecube's syndrom much?
06:37 Calinou this happened on ecube's server a lot for me
06:37 OldCoder VanessaE, diagnosis?
06:41 VanessaE beats me, I haven't had that happen to me yet
06:41 VanessaE worst I get is just some lag where a server might take a couple minutes to send the map data
06:41 VanessaE I always attribute it to them having a slow pipe
06:42 OldCoder VanessaE, You don't think it's Mesecons or Technic then?
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06:46 VanessaE I don't know
06:46 VanessaE I mean, it could possibly be
06:47 VanessaE mesecons can drag a server to its knees if abused
06:47 VanessaE technic possibly as well
06:47 VanessaE this seemed more like the server just couldn't send any map data, but NakedFury said he could move around etc.
06:47 VanessaE but he couldn't dig/build - everything was being undone
06:49 OldCoder <skully_> when you plant it dispears
06:49 OldCoder <skully_> when you hoe it unhoes
06:49 OldCoder <skully_> when you put water and go away for 5 mins the its gone
06:49 OldCoder <OldCoder> what if you stay and watch?
06:49 OldCoder <skully_> nothing it gose away when you left no joke
06:49 OldCoder
06:49 OldCoder What about this?
06:49 OldCoder Does it sound like the same thing?
06:49 VanessaE that's the same thing, yes
06:49 VanessaE that is a reflection of server lag
06:50 VanessaE what happens is the client tells the server "I just dug block A and X,Y,Z" and the server's supposed to respond either with an acknowledgement, or by undoing what you did
06:50 VanessaE when a server lags, often you will see all of your work undone in one shot and then slowly repeated block by block
06:50 VanessaE until it catches up with whatever you did
06:51 OldCoder Hmm
06:51 OldCoder So it comes back
06:51 OldCoder I am not experiencing high CPU
06:51 OldCoder I wonder
06:51 OldCoder I'll put the updated mods back then
06:52 VanessaE yeah, your mod collection, by itself, won't do this
06:52 OldCoder I didn't do much on the servers today like copying large files
06:52 VanessaE what will do it is if a CPU-hogging mod is being abused somehow
06:52 VanessaE for example:
06:52 OldCoder So I can watch CPU usage
06:53 OldCoder If it goes high this will happen
06:53 VanessaE I created a really simple clock circuit with one Mesecons microcontroller and a couple of lengths of wire.  When set to oscillate at 3-4 Hz (a reasonable speed for a Mesecons construction) everything is fine.  Accelerate it to say 15 or 20 Hz, the server starts to lag
06:53 OldCoder Ah!
06:53 OldCoder But I should see this in the server CPU usage
06:53 OldCoder Is this correct?
06:53 VanessaE combine that with any reasonable circuit, such as a 4-bit counter, and the server will lag really badly.
06:53 VanessaE yes
06:53 OldCoder All right
06:53 VanessaE it's a CPU issue
06:54 VanessaE the Lua engine saps too much CPU from the rest of the server to let it do anything
06:54 OldCoder If you see NakedRage you might mention this. I will as well.
06:54 VanessaE NakedFury
06:54 OldCoder He has a different name in Twitter
06:54 VanessaE oh ok
06:54 OldCoder I can't keep them straight
06:54 VanessaE I don't use my twitter account :-)
06:54 OldCoder Do so
06:54 OldCoder Then you can
06:54 OldCoder Add to my mighty Follower Army
06:55 OldCoder which is about 6 if you subtract the robot ones
06:55 OldCoder :-)
06:55 OldCoder I am BoldCoder there BTW
06:55 OldCoder Thx for the lag explanation
06:55 OldCoder The two worlds
06:55 OldCoder where this has been reported
06:55 OldCoder are probably both getting complex
06:56 TheRedMood okey
06:59 OldCoder Restoring mods
06:59 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down for update
06:59 OldCoder Does anybody have updates to add?
07:01 OldCoder U.S. worlds back
07:02 VanessaE nothing new here.  My last update to anything was that fix for seaweed in flowers to control it a little bette
07:02 VanessaE rbetter*
07:02 VanessaE qeyhfr3ewyr34670trxrt78407t340xctc344t
07:02 OldCoder k
07:03 VanessaE but you already have it
07:03 OldCoder VanessaE, when?
07:03 OldCoder Ah
07:03 VanessaE I think - it was a couple of days ago
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07:03 VanessaE hi jin
07:04 VanessaE thanks for the congrats earlier btw :-)
07:04 cornernote hey, the forum is down
07:04 jin_xi hi VanessaE yeah, its cool!
07:04 cornernote just incase anyone didnt know
07:04 cornernote ;)
07:04 VanessaE hey cornernote
07:04 VanessaE we know
07:04 jin_xi mt is so educational
07:04 * VanessaE is going through forum withdrawal
07:04 cornernote yeah, i know we know
07:04 * cornernote is just being a funny guy
07:05 VanessaE I know you know we know :-)
07:05 cornernote but...
07:05 * VanessaE is just being an imp as usual :D
07:05 cornernote do you know we know that i know we know ?
07:05 VanessaE yup
07:05 jin_xi hey cornernote
07:05 cornernote ok, good
07:05 cornernote hi jin_xi
07:05 jin_xi i really dig your api doc efforts
07:05 jin_xi i had this one idea: make a section for common tasks in mods
07:05 cornernote VanessaE, as long as we're all on the same page about that, then we're good
07:06 jin_xi like, check node above for space (air)
07:06 VanessaE good idea
07:06 jin_xi and such
07:06 cornernote jin_xi, what do you mean ?
07:06 VanessaE check perlin noise, check for air, for loaded area, for neighboring nodes, etc
07:06 cornernote oh, like code snippets ?
07:06 jin_xi exactly
07:06 VanessaE yes exactly
07:06 jin_xi to harmonize and rise mod quality
07:06 jin_xi ;)
07:07 * VanessaE already set the bar really high in that regard ;)
07:07 cornernote all the snippets would be user-comments ?
07:07 jin_xi i often think the lua api is too low level, there should be some library built on it for common stuff
07:07 cornernote or would you like to write a section/page ?
07:07 cornernote a lua-framework
07:08 VanessaE jin_xi, cornernote:  opinions regarding adding a new checkbox to the settings menu?  "[X] Enable Texture Atlas"
07:08 jin_xi for example like in c55 mobs mod, the 3d movement and vector stuff
07:08 cornernote jin_xi, you should post your ideas as comments, and when i have time i'll turn the comments into improved or new pages
07:09 jin_xi cornernote, i'd rather not write that section, english is still difficult for me and for stuff like that the details matter
07:09 cornernote paste code shippets too, it doesnt have to be well organised, but the better it is, the easier it is for me to integrate into docs
07:09 TheRedMood VanessaE: Good day, Mrs :D
07:09 jin_xi ok, will give it a try late
07:09 jin_xi r
07:10 VanessaE hi red
07:10 cornernote the idea is that the community will post comments to improve the docs, and some community members can manage the actual pages
07:11 * VanessaE waits for an answer... :-)
07:11 cornernote many of the functions need examples, i think more function examples will lead to better coded mods
07:12 jin_xi VanessaE: I only ever use 16x textures and never had problems with atlas, but why not. the problem seems to come up on the forums often enough
07:13 VanessaE jin_xi: some folks are starting to have problems with the texture atlas even with 16px textures now, if they have lots of mods
07:13 Calinou irrelevant to current discussion, but: https://lwn.net/Articles/452293/ < *facepalm*
07:13 Calinou ipv6 is definitely not going to end this "how do i port forwad" stuff
07:13 Calinou :/
07:14 Calinou hope his stuff won't be added to winblows 8, that's the only solution to keep ipv6 natless
07:14 VanessaE why would IPV6 have anything to do with port forwarding?
07:14 VanessaE I thought that was all about giving the 'net a really wide address space
07:15 TheRedMood Hello Basstard`  :D
07:15 TheRedMood Hello VanessaE :D
07:15 VanessaE hi
07:16 TheRedMood How are you?
07:16 ecube in a red mood
07:16 VanessaE pretty good
07:16 TheRedMood I have not hear that before :o
07:16 TheRedMood That was a good joke!
07:16 TheRedMood :D
07:16 VanessaE tired as all hell though
07:16 ecube :)
07:16 ecube X_X
07:24 khonkhortisan you should take a nap in your upside-down house
07:27 VanessaE haha
07:28 VanessaE I'm going to bed in a few minutes
07:29 VanessaE make that..now
07:29 VanessaE night all.
07:31 ecube night
07:32 TheRedMood Night
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07:34 ecube wb
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07:36 Calinou <VanessaE> why would IPV6 have anything to do with port forwarding?
07:36 Calinou because it is not supposed to have NAT
07:36 Calinou lack of NAT > lack of port forwarding
07:37 Calinou we have enough addresses not to use NAT
07:37 TheRedMood Nice :D
07:37 TheRedMood Calinou: nice comment on my mod, thanks a lot for the feedback
07:38 Calinou np
07:38 Calinou for the command that doesn't show help, a terrible hack is possible, but it would probably require C++ to hide privilege grant/revok
07:38 TheRedMood yeah
07:38 TheRedMood I was looking around
07:38 TheRedMood And I think I could patch something up?
07:39 TheRedMood But if it is not accepted into the main game what use does it got?
07:39 Calinou type command > get privilege > do the command > revoke privilege > there, it doesn't show up in /help
07:39 Calinou this would show "server granted/Revoke privilege", not sure
07:39 Calinou TheRedMood: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
07:39 Calinou he's quite inactive these days
07:39 Calinou feel free to fork it and pull request
07:39 TheRedMood ?
07:39 TheRedMood Wait?
07:39 TheRedMood Wait wait...
07:39 TheRedMood yes!
07:39 TheRedMood Yes sir!
07:40 TheRedMood I have thought of that
07:40 TheRedMood But I am kind of a freak of the backdraws of that
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07:57 mitori that question must have annoyed everyone
07:57 mitori but still
07:57 mitori what's up with mt forum?
07:57 mitori sorry and thank you in advance
07:58 TheRedMood Ohh
07:58 TheRedMood No such thing mitori
07:59 TheRedMood The sql server, the server that acts as a database, crashed
07:59 TheRedMood That means that the web server tries to find the data and it doesn't find it
07:59 TheRedMood I hope this was a good enough answer for you :D
08:00 mitori i know that much
08:00 mitori okay then
08:00 mitori maybe anyone knows
08:01 mitori when it's going to be up?
08:02 OldCoder It has happened before
08:02 OldCoder apparently not permanent
08:04 mitori lol
08:04 mitori hope so
08:04 TheRedMood :)
08:04 mitori ican't post/downloadmods on irc:D
08:04 TheRedMood :)
08:04 TheRedMood Use github
08:04 mitori well
08:05 TheRedMood Are you a propritary fan?
08:05 OldCoder mitori, I can take announcements
08:05 OldCoder starting tomorrow
08:05 OldCoder if it continues
08:06 OldCoder and mods
08:07 TheRedMood OldCoder: I added /heal, /sethealth
08:07 OldCoder k
08:07 mitori what?
08:07 OldCoder mitori, ?
08:07 mitori propritary?
08:07 mitori sorry dunno that word
08:08 Calinou midori you mean
08:08 Calinou that's a FOSS lightweight web browser...
08:08 TheRedMood And I am also going to add a new suntax
08:08 TheRedMood What is FOSS ?
08:09 OldCoder Free and
08:09 Calinou free and open source software
08:09 OldCoder Open Source Software
08:09 Calinou free "as in freedom" here
08:09 TheRedMood Ohh okey
08:10 mitori no]
08:10 mitori i'm mitori
08:10 TheRedMood I know what that is
08:10 mitori japanese usually confuse my name
08:10 TheRedMood But I Dident know the name
08:10 mitori but i'm actually mitori
08:11 TheRedMood Mitori is a common name in norway :D
08:11 mitori and i'm a boy. midori's a girl ma,e
08:11 mitori name*
08:11 mitori wow :D
08:11 mitori lol
08:13 TheRedMood That is noted, sir :)
08:14 mitori is there anyone
08:14 mitori who can fix the server
08:14 mitori except for celeron?
08:17 TheRedMood Any hacker
08:17 Calinou since when c55 hosts servers?
08:17 TheRedMood Which is acomplyed by a cracker
08:17 Calinou he doesn't, he used to host a secret server which is down now
08:22 TheRedMood Lol
08:22 TheRedMood Thins channel is really quite
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08:43 OldCoder anunakki, hi
08:45 anunnaki joined #minetest
08:55 OldCoder I will be back this morning
08:56 TheRedMood See ya
08:56 OldCoder k
08:56 TheRedMood Keep safe :D
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08:59 VanessaE sigh.  so much for sleeping
08:59 VanessaE so damn itchy I can't relax
09:00 TheRedMood Ohh
09:00 TheRedMood :(
09:12 VanessaE morning Taoki.
09:12 Taoki hi
09:18 TheRedMood Morning
09:18 TheRedMood How are you?
09:24 VanessaE well the forums are back up, at least that's good news anyway
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10:53 VanessaE ok, time for bed.  again.
10:53 VanessaE night all.
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11:17 NekoGloop Dont you people ever sleep
11:22 cornernote i dont
11:23 cornernote well, i did once
11:24 NekoGloop Heh.
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11:49 TheRedMood Hello :D
11:51 CTMN Hi
11:52 CTMN U r very fast in noticing people joining ;-)
11:52 TheRedMood Ohh
11:52 TheRedMood I just got here in my break :)
11:52 CTMN I didnt mean it negative
11:53 TheRedMood It was a coincidence
11:53 CTMN It was just fun
11:53 TheRedMood Yepp :)
11:53 TheRedMood I get that
11:53 CTMN U called me a sad person yesterday, didnt u?
11:53 TheRedMood Yeah, you seeem sad :(
11:53 CTMN No Im not
11:54 TheRedMood Well you sound like it
11:54 CTMN Not when I sit in front of a PC XD
11:54 TheRedMood What are you currently doing :)
11:54 TheRedMood Working on a mod or?
11:54 CTMN Coding+
11:54 TheRedMood Nice
11:54 TheRedMood What lang?
11:54 CTMN C++
11:54 CTMN not MT related
11:54 TheRedMood Really, home learning or?
11:54 CTMN Just coding a game
11:55 TheRedMood Ohh, what graphic libary are you using?
11:55 CTMN SDL
11:55 TheRedMood Is it a solo project or are you codign with someone?
11:55 CTMN solo
11:55 TheRedMood First project you ever do?
11:55 CTMN Yes
11:55 CTMN No
11:55 CTMN Half
11:55 TheRedMood Ohh
11:55 TheRedMood Okey
11:55 TheRedMood you are going to fail
11:56 CTMN Why?
11:56 CTMN I coded little stuff 3 years ago then I stopped it and started it again before 2 months
11:56 CTMN So I cant really say its my first project
11:56 CTMN But my first big one
11:57 CTMN And I also coded ASM and BASIC V2 for a 8-bit computer
11:57 TheRedMood Well you are going to give up
11:57 TheRedMood That is my guess :9
11:57 CTMN Why?
11:59 CTMN I only stopped because I started being addicted by games
12:00 CTMN And did u ever code in c++?
12:03 TheRedMood Yeah
12:03 TheRedMood it is a good lang
12:04 TheRedMood But starting out with it is bad :(
12:04 CTMN I didnt start out with c++
12:04 CTMN Not really
12:05 CTMN I dont remember exactly what I started with, but I know that there was BASIC too
12:06 TheRedMood How old are you?
12:06 CTMN I dont say
12:06 CTMN But Im less than 18
12:06 CTMN And more than 10
12:07 CTMN Why do u ask?
12:09 TheRedMood Just asking
12:09 TheRedMood Starting with basic seems wierd
12:09 CTMN Why?
12:09 CTMN I know I didnt start only with BASIC
12:10 CTMN There were other stuff too, but I dont remember anymore
12:10 TheRedMood okey :)
12:11 CTMN And Im not a noob except that I dont use much OOP
12:11 TheRedMood My list is beginning to be so long it is not worth mentioning
12:11 TheRedMood Wrong
12:11 TheRedMood You are a beginner in everyway :D
12:12 CTMN Stop making such jokes, they rnt fun
12:12 TheRedMood Well that is true sir
12:12 TheRedMood Have you ever finished a project?
12:12 CTMN Yes
12:12 TheRedMood Have you ever used pointers for something
12:12 TheRedMood Please do show
12:12 CTMN Yes
12:12 TheRedMood Have you ever gotten creddited from somone in the community?
12:12 TheRedMood Have you ever commited to an opensource project?
12:13 CTMN No
12:13 CTMN That would be a pro
12:13 TheRedMood No
12:13 TheRedMood Pro is living of being a programmer
12:13 TheRedMood But tell me what pointers are then?
12:13 CTMN They point to a variable
12:13 TheRedMood That is technicly right
12:13 CTMN Their value is an address
12:13 TheRedMood But not the definition
12:13 TheRedMood Good
12:14 TheRedMood Why would you use them
12:14 TheRedMood When did you use them?
12:14 CTMN I used them because SDL needs pointers for almost every function
12:15 TheRedMood So you have never used them because you didn't need to?
12:15 TheRedMood Can you paste some code you have used
12:15 TheRedMood ?
12:16 CTMN SDL_FillRect(screen,&anyrect,SDL_MapRGB(screen->format,0,0,128));
12:16 TheRedMood No
12:16 TheRedMood An entier file :)
12:16 CTMN No
12:16 TheRedMood With comments and everything
12:16 TheRedMood Why not?
12:16 CTMN The code isnt done for reading
12:16 CTMN I mean its hard to read
12:16 TheRedMood Well you have commented it?
12:16 TheRedMood ?
12:17 CTMN No
12:17 TheRedMood Ohh
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12:17 TheRedMood Well the just paste it anyway
12:17 TheRedMood :)
12:17 CTMN Too large
12:17 TheRedMood How many lines?
12:17 CTMN 689 lines and 19755 chars
12:17 TheRedMood Then you can uploade the file so i can see it
12:17 TheRedMood that is not really much
12:18 CTMN What for?
12:18 TheRedMood So i can look at some good c++ code
12:18 TheRedMood I need to get some more experience there
12:18 CTMN Good?
12:18 TheRedMood Yeah?
12:18 CTMN Im not sure
12:18 TheRedMood Well then you can learn
12:18 TheRedMood And I can laern
12:18 CTMN If its good to read
12:18 TheRedMood learn*
12:18 TheRedMood So we all win :D
12:19 TheRedMood A tip
12:19 TheRedMood Comment code while you write it
12:19 TheRedMood ;)
12:19 CTMN I know what I write, so I dont need to comment it
12:20 TheRedMood Um
12:20 TheRedMood CTMN
12:20 TheRedMood Can you join #crunchbang
12:20 TheRedMood And resay that sentance
12:20 CTMN WHat is that?
12:20 CTMN ???
12:25 TheRedMood ::9
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12:25 CTMN I know that other people wont understand what I write, because my code will never be open source
12:26 TheRedMood Ohh!
12:26 TheRedMood myhrlin: Did you get that?
12:26 TheRedMood :D
12:26 myhrlin sounds like a business plan
12:26 CTMN My code of my current project I mean
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12:26 CTMN of course
12:26 TheRedMood This guy is going to have a hard time finding a job
12:26 TheRedMood Since the employer won't be able to read his code :o
12:26 CTMN Its only that one project!
12:27 myhrlin TheRedMood: maybe this isn't as bad as you made it sound? ;)
12:27 TheRedMood myhrlin: That is because he is backing down
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12:27 CTMN Im having other COMMENTED stuff lying there
12:27 TheRedMood myhrlin: I can paste the logg from earlier
12:27 myhrlin mission accomprished
12:27 TheRedMood No
12:27 TheRedMood He will retaliate
12:27 TheRedMood We need to do it harder :D
12:27 TheRedMood Can you paste us some of the code?
12:27 TheRedMood Like 200 lines?
12:27 myhrlin nah, live and let live
12:27 TheRedMood myhrlin: :( Never was that with me x3
12:28 CTMN Not of this one >:-)
12:28 TheRedMood Because?
12:28 CTMN It wont be opensource
12:28 TheRedMood You said it where proffesinal code
12:28 TheRedMood Ohh
12:28 CTMN NO
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12:28 TheRedMood So you are making a game just for yourself?
12:28 alazare619 boom
12:28 TheRedMood alazare619: name is CTMN
12:28 TheRedMood He has started backing down
12:28 CTMN No
12:28 TheRedMood But I am making sure the attitude is being crushed.
12:29 TheRedMood He is now gone over to not pasting the code
12:29 TheRedMood under the excuse that it is not going to be open source
12:29 TheRedMood yet it is not commented
12:29 CTMN Not the code of that one project
12:29 TheRedMood He also says that it is his first real project
12:29 CTMN Only that one
12:29 TheRedMood And that he is not a beginner in c++
12:29 TheRedMood Or newb as he putt it
12:29 alazare619 he said newb hhuh
12:29 alazare619 must be a pro hacker
12:29 TheRedMood I find it odd that he won't prove us wrong with some code
12:29 TheRedMood Yeah
12:29 alazare619 whois CTMN
12:30 TheRedMood O damn
12:30 CTMN U wont find out much
12:30 TheRedMood My computer got aids from doing that
12:30 TheRedMood :(
12:30 alazare619 hmm
12:30 copiga when i was a professional i commented, even if the entire program was a bunch of buttons and an if...
12:30 TheRedMood Well he is to good for that
12:30 CTMN -.-
12:30 copiga D:
12:30 CTMN I didnt mean that
12:30 myhrlin it's obviously considered good practice to comment code, but if the person chooses not to then there's not much to do about it
12:30 TheRedMood copiga: We are stearing at a whole other leage here.
12:31 TheRedMood myhrlin: We are here to correct and have fun
12:31 TheRedMood :D
12:31 copiga TheRedMood: eh?
12:31 CTMN The thing is what u r goin to correct
12:31 TheRedMood copiga: myhrlin is takign the other side
12:31 TheRedMood your bad habit
12:31 TheRedMood 1. Not commenting code
12:31 TheRedMood 2. Acting like you are better than others
12:31 TheRedMood 3. Not open sourcing code
12:31 TheRedMood :D
12:31 myhrlin TheRedMood: I'm not taking sides
12:32 CTMN 2. Isnt right
12:32 TheRedMood It certanly is
12:32 myhrlin I personally like commenting code, but if someone else doesn't then either I choose to figure out what's going on in the code and comment it myself, or I leave it alone
12:32 CTMN 1 and 3 only for that one thing
12:32 TheRedMood nope
12:32 TheRedMood 2. is there too
12:32 CTMN Its only one project, the others r commented
12:32 TheRedMood You are starting to sound like haylo
12:32 TheRedMood then you paste those then?
12:33 CTMN Theyr not commented in English
12:33 TheRedMood Well we can loook at the code can't we?
12:33 CTMN I will try to translate it
12:33 alazare619 webchat
12:33 alazare619 troll must be troll
12:33 TheRedMood ?
12:33 TheRedMood ohh
12:33 TheRedMood Ofcourse x3
12:34 alazare619 WHOIS information for CTMN:
12:34 alazare619 Name: p5DD35CDB.dip.t-dialin.net/93.211.92.219
12:34 alazare619 Connected from: 5dd35cdb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.211.92.219
12:34 alazare619 Currently on: #minetest
12:34 alazare619 Connected to: rowling.freenode.net (Corvallis, OR, USA)
12:34 CTMN Im not living in USA as u may have noticed
12:34 alazare619 yea
12:34 alazare619 deutch
12:34 TheRedMood Well, you are using webcat
12:34 TheRedMood heyho :D
12:34 TheRedMood I just love ip registers :D
12:34 alazare619 ran a tracer an nmap
12:34 wei2912_ joined #minetest
12:34 TheRedMood You just have to love nmap right?
12:35 TheRedMood How can ther be so much juice in one tool?
12:35 * alazare619 <3 nmap
12:35 TheRedMood Hey wei2912_
12:35 wei2912_ ...
12:35 TheRedMood CTMN decided to go full pro
12:35 CTMN NO I DIDNT
12:35 wei2912_ warning
12:35 TheRedMood So we are correcting him :)
12:35 wei2912_ #crunchbang flaming going on
12:36 TheRedMood No
12:36 TheRedMood We are just 4 people
12:36 TheRedMood haylo have not joined yet
12:36 TheRedMood He is going to rip this guy to pieces
12:36 TheRedMood :o
12:36 wei2912_ they might come hee
12:36 wei2912_ here*
12:36 wei2912_ oh wait, #!
12:36 wei2912_ not #crunchbang, sry
12:36 CTMN For not commenting one prog?
12:36 TheRedMood for being a lier
12:36 TheRedMood Liar*
12:36 myhrlin isn't it enough to say "yes, commenting code is a good standard practice but not required"?
12:37 TheRedMood Not for haylo
12:37 wei2912_ wth
12:37 wei2912_ #crunchbang flaming?
12:37 CTMN Im commenting my code
12:37 copiga is theredmood part of the FOSS mafia?
12:37 TheRedMood Then please just paste some code?
12:37 CTMN How many times do I have to say that?
12:37 TheRedMood No :D
12:37 CTMN WHere?
12:37 TheRedMood I am to simple minded for that
12:37 wei2912_ copiga: yes?
12:37 TheRedMood pastie
12:37 alazare619 is this minecraft server mods?
12:37 TheRedMood pastie.org
12:37 TheRedMood No
12:37 TheRedMood It is for minetest
12:37 TheRedMood A game opensource
12:38 TheRedMood c++
12:38 TheRedMood Nativly on linux and windows
12:38 alazare619 is it a minecraft clone?
12:38 wei2912_ lua plugins
12:38 TheRedMood Ohh yes it is
12:38 TheRedMood But it is much more correct than minecraft
12:38 TheRedMood It is free ;)
12:38 alazare619 hmm
12:38 TheRedMood minetest.net
12:38 TheRedMood It is not like the others
12:38 alazare619 wouldnt that be copy right breaking *eye shift*
12:38 TheRedMood O noe
12:39 TheRedMood There is no code that is the same
12:39 TheRedMood Notch can't copyright a game genre
12:39 alazare619 but cloning the game regardless of the code not being "reverse enginerd" is still breaking copyright
12:39 alazare619 *points to apple vs samsung*
12:39 TheRedMood ohh
12:39 TheRedMood It is writtend from scratch
12:39 wei2912_ no, minetest does not aim to be minecraft
12:39 wei2912_ it is inspired by
12:39 alazare619 so was samsungs "siri"
12:40 TheRedMood alazare619: Well apple is stupid
12:40 alazare619 but the idea was copyrighted :P
12:40 TheRedMood Don't we all agree on that?
12:40 TheRedMood CTMN: Do you think apple is stupid?
12:40 TheRedMood :o
12:40 alazare619 for the most part yes
12:40 wei2912_ sigh
12:40 alazare619 i do like there look of imacs tho
12:40 TheRedMood yeah
12:40 copiga they make pretty stuff but overcharge and be too loud...
12:40 alazare619 fucking imacs are sexy
12:40 NakedFury joined #minetest
12:40 TheRedMood But they are wrongly informing people
12:40 TheRedMood NakedFury: Hello
12:40 * copiga has a power mac G4
12:40 TheRedMood me too
12:40 TheRedMood the fan is like a yet x3
12:41 alazare619 so anyways
12:41 alazare619 code!
12:41 TheRedMood NakedFury: We are correcting CTMN
12:41 alazare619 must see code
12:41 TheRedMood Yes
12:41 TheRedMood Paste it
12:41 TheRedMood Now CTMN
12:41 alazare619 git or GIT THE FUCK OUT
12:41 TheRedMood Well no
12:41 * alazare619 see what i did there :P
12:41 TheRedMood That would give him a excuse to not do it
12:41 MilanFIN joined #minetest
12:41 * TheRedMood see what you did there :D
12:41 TheRedMood well
12:42 alazare619 must resist urge to post chan on my darknet
12:42 TheRedMood I think He ran in fear :(
12:42 alazare619 must...resist....urge
12:42 TheRedMood What is darknet?
12:42 TheRedMood :o
12:42 * alazare619 waves hand there is no darknet
12:42 * alazare619 these are not the questions you are wanting to ask
12:42 TheRedMood Oh
12:42 TheRedMood But I just want to know what a darknet is :o
12:42 TheRedMood Let me google it
12:42 alazare619 !google darknet
12:43 alazare619 damnit jovo
12:43 alazare619 get in this channel
12:43 * alazare619 Slaps Jovo
12:44 TheRedMood Um
12:44 TheRedMood But can you just tell me what it is?
12:44 TheRedMood okey people
12:44 TheRedMood CTMN backed down
12:44 TheRedMood He is beaten
12:44 CTMN What?
12:44 TheRedMood Lets burn the corpse and lets....
12:44 TheRedMood Ohh!
12:44 TheRedMood you are back
12:44 TheRedMood Now paste some code :D
12:44 CTMN Im pasting
12:44 TheRedMood post link
12:44 TheRedMood IT must be easy
12:44 TheRedMood just go to pastie.org
12:45 TheRedMood alazare619: false rturn singal
12:45 alazare619 huh?
12:45 TheRedMood We must stay for a while and look after him
12:45 CTMN http://codepad.org/a4xcohQQ
12:45 CTMN here
12:45 alazare619 shit bro im about to get off work
12:45 alazare619 had a long night at the noc dealing with the blades :(
12:45 CTMN Oh wait
12:45 CTMN No
12:45 TheRedMood blades?
12:46 TheRedMood Btw what is darknet
12:46 copiga whats mxdst? mass x distance?
12:46 TheRedMood can you please tell me just what it is?
12:46 TheRedMood Don't know let me try to google it
12:46 CTMN No
12:46 TheRedMood Ohh
12:46 CTMN U wont get anything
12:46 TheRedMood See that boys
12:46 TheRedMood He said he was pasting
12:46 TheRedMood And he just pulled out
12:46 CTMN The prog is more about maths
12:46 TheRedMood Seems like who can't prove it
12:46 TheRedMood Ohh
12:46 TheRedMood But we have plenty of those here
12:46 TheRedMood :D
12:47 TheRedMood Just paste it
12:47 TheRedMood What are you afraid of?
12:47 TheRedMood :o
12:47 wei2912 joined #minetest
12:47 TheRedMood wei2912: he is now refusing to paste
12:47 TheRedMood saying that the program is to much about math
12:47 TheRedMood So we won't understand it
12:47 alazare619 TheRedMood: darknet is like a subnetwork on the internet 1 ip into a network or swarm that nothing can actually access but everythign can
12:47 wei2912 pls visit https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
12:47 wei2912 and stop flaming
12:47 alazare619 with a darknet you can have an entire irc network or websites that arent accessable by a ip address
12:47 alazare619 unless your in the darknet yourself
12:48 TheRedMood Ohh.
12:48 TheRedMood So that means that you wanted to post it there?
12:48 wei2912 this is #minetest not #crunchbang
12:48 copiga isnt that deep web though?
12:48 CTMN Yes
12:48 TheRedMood wei2912: be quite
12:48 TheRedMood wei2912: When was the last tiem minetest was activly mentioned here?
12:49 CTMN Before I joined
12:49 TheRedMood okey
12:49 TheRedMood Well then
12:49 TheRedMood Just paste it
12:49 alazare619 deep web is darknet copiga
12:49 CTMN http://codepad.org/6YIYruxq
12:49 alazare619 or eep site is bad darknet
12:49 TheRedMood there guys
12:49 TheRedMood Lets see it :D
12:49 alazare619 but darknet isnt bad by nature
12:49 alazare619 some just abuse it
12:50 wei2912 TheRedMood: i mentioned it
12:50 wei2912 u mentioned it
12:50 alazare619 #minetest
12:50 alazare619 the new #cb hangout
12:50 TheRedMood 10 lines?
12:50 wei2912 thus i assume it is mentiones.
12:50 TheRedMood 10 lines?
12:50 TheRedMood Are that you project?
12:50 CTMN Without the I/O stuff
12:50 TheRedMood Then paste that too then
12:50 CTMN No
12:50 TheRedMood thoise 10 lines could be from every where
12:50 TheRedMood Why not?
12:50 wei2912 sigh
12:50 TheRedMood You obviously can post it
12:50 TheRedMood So why not?
12:51 TheRedMood Because you did not write that code?
12:51 CTMN Ok if u wantr
12:51 TheRedMood let me just google those lines
12:51 wei2912 can you all chng?
12:51 wei2912 chng your hideout to #centos
12:51 TheRedMood And see if i find some tutorial sites
12:51 TheRedMood Ohh sorry
12:51 TheRedMood I am just trying to fidn the truth here
12:51 wei2912 thank you very much.
12:51 TheRedMood We are moving on when where done,miss :D
12:52 TheRedMood Ohh
12:52 TheRedMood He is not pasting
12:52 TheRedMood Means he is googleing
12:52 TheRedMood to find some basic c++ io
12:52 TheRedMood :o
12:52 TheRedMood He is smarter than I thought
12:52 wei2912 you can hang out at #linux-tutorials irc.spotchat.org for my channel
12:52 wei2912 pls. go. thanks.
12:52 alazare619 rofl re raid on #centos again ! :P
12:52 TheRedMood O noe
12:53 TheRedMood We are goign to stay hre
12:53 TheRedMood Until we get some code from CTMN :D
12:53 wei2912 he wont give it
12:53 wei2912 ill give it
12:53 wei2912 https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
12:53 alazare619 he stole the code basically and is trying to rework it it seems
12:54 alazare619 and then is trying to close source the project
12:54 CTMN http://codepad.org/W25whKst
12:54 CTMN No
12:54 CTMN Its not legal to steal code
12:54 wei2912 now go to my channel. thanks.
12:54 TheRedMood Ohh
12:54 TheRedMood That is just 19 lines
12:54 wei2912 more fun stuff there
12:55 TheRedMood You said that you had more projects
12:55 TheRedMood Can we get a more inclusive code
12:55 TheRedMood The one you are working on is about 689 lines
12:55 TheRedMood So like 200 lines of your code will sufficate
12:55 TheRedMood :D
12:55 wei2912 TheRedMood: he has java projects too
12:55 wei2912 https://github.com/wei2912/JavaBot
12:56 CTMN I dont have anything which is about 200 lines
12:56 TheRedMood That is yours
12:56 wei2912 he is a collaborator
12:56 TheRedMood Well then paste the current one
12:56 TheRedMood nope
12:56 TheRedMood That is your code
12:56 wei2912 damn
12:56 TheRedMood And it is going to be reviewd by me later today :D
12:56 copiga my code is bad but here:https://bitbucket.org/copiga
12:56 TheRedMood I have not forgotten
12:56 alazare619 i really need to find a use for this 32 core blade :(
12:56 TheRedMood What is a blade?
12:56 alazare619 blade server
12:56 TheRedMood Ohh wait O_O
12:56 * TheRedMood takes blade and attacks CTMN with it
12:57 TheRedMood Die traitor :D
12:57 wei2912 sry ops, couldnt stop them
12:57 * CTMN takes his gun out and shoots TheRedMood
12:57 TheRedMood Wait
12:57 CTMN -.-
12:57 TheRedMood Shoulden't you worrie about a gun licence?
12:57 TheRedMood Are you trained to weaer it?
12:57 TheRedMood Is the design stolen by someone?
12:57 wei2912 just go to my channel and leave this be
12:57 CTMN XD
12:57 TheRedMood the bullets are they copyrighted?
12:57 TheRedMood Because open source is so bad
12:58 CTMN more XD
12:58 CTMN He open source is great
12:58 TheRedMood your idea of everything being restricted must be very good
12:58 CTMN I hate copyright
12:58 TheRedMood So then paste the code
12:58 TheRedMood you said you had 689 lines
12:58 TheRedMood Just paste that then
12:58 CTMN U only want to see my code
12:58 TheRedMood Yeah :D
12:58 wei2912 tableflip!
12:58 TheRedMood Or we want to see it :D
12:58 TheRedMood alazare619: Do you want to see his code?
12:59 CTMN Not really
12:59 TheRedMood He is making a game
12:59 CTMN Only u
12:59 TheRedMood So then why don't you show me?
12:59 TheRedMood What is the problem?
12:59 CTMN That u could copy it
12:59 CTMN Why not?
12:59 TheRedMood you said you hated copyright
12:59 CTMN Yes
12:59 TheRedMood then why do you worrie that I will copy it?
12:59 TheRedMood :o
12:59 CTMN It hasnt it yet
12:59 TheRedMood ?
13:00 TheRedMood I don't understand that sentence
13:00 CTMN It isnt under the copyright license
13:00 copiga left #minetest
13:00 TheRedMood say it again in a more simple terms
13:00 TheRedMood Then there is no problem :D
13:00 CTMN The problem is that u could copy it
13:00 wei2912 stop
13:00 TheRedMood And that is the thought behind opensource
13:00 TheRedMood Sharing
13:00 TheRedMood :D
13:01 TheRedMood Do you got a problem with that?
13:01 CTMN I wont share it but my next big thing will be open source
13:01 TheRedMood ohh
13:01 TheRedMood So this is goign to be closed source
13:01 TheRedMood So you do like copyright
13:01 CTMN No
13:01 wei2912 VanessaE: sfan5 pls...
13:01 CTMN Only this one will be
13:01 TheRedMood Ohh
13:01 CTMN The next ones will be open source
13:01 TheRedMood So you really lied then
13:02 CTMN With what?
13:02 TheRedMood That you don't like copyright
13:02 TheRedMood you have no reason
13:02 CTMN For what?
13:02 CTMN For hating it?
13:02 TheRedMood for copy righting the code
13:02 CTMN Then u must be joking
13:02 TheRedMood So why won't u share it?
13:03 CTMN Because its my first big project
13:04 wei2912 there
13:04 CTMN And let me work noe
13:04 CTMN *now
13:04 wei2912 sigh
13:04 wei2912 i wish i had op
13:05 TheRedMood Ohh
13:05 TheRedMood And therfor you can't share it=?
13:06 CTMN I will share my next thing
13:06 TheRedMood Ohh
13:06 teh_ joined #minetest
13:06 TheRedMood But not this one?
13:06 teh_ what is going on here
13:06 CTMN No
13:06 TheRedMood Hello
13:06 TheRedMood Well
13:06 CTMN Hi
13:06 teh_ what is minetest anyway
13:06 TheRedMood CTMN is saying
13:06 CTMN Hes interested in my code
13:06 TheRedMood That he is a c++ programmer
13:06 teh_ i can haz ops ?
13:06 TheRedMood And that he loves opensource
13:06 CTMN Am I not?
13:06 TheRedMood and hates copyright
13:06 CTMN Do I not?
13:07 wei2912 teh_: minetest is a minecraft inspired game
13:07 TheRedMood this is a much longer fude
13:07 TheRedMood But the most reasnt thing
13:07 TheRedMood is that he pretty much got facekicked
13:07 TheRedMood by me and some guys from #crunchbang
13:07 wei2912 CTMN: go to my channel and argue there
13:07 TheRedMood for being an asshole
13:07 wei2912 CTMN: it is more fun
13:07 CTMN U was the asshole
13:07 TheRedMood and now I ask to get a look at his source
13:07 TheRedMood But he says no
13:07 TheRedMood He says that he is goign to share the next big thing
13:07 CTMN U started everything because u wanted to see my code
13:08 CTMN Only because of that
13:08 TheRedMood Without givingin a explaination on why he won't share this
13:08 TheRedMood Do you think that is a bit wierd?
13:08 TheRedMood :o
13:08 teh_ left #minetest
13:08 wei2912 TheRedMood: he haz code.
13:09 wei2912 loads.
13:09 TheRedMood yeah
13:09 CTMN Dont u think that u dont have to see the code of everybody?
13:09 TheRedMood So please then shear it
13:09 TheRedMood :D
13:09 cosarara97 What doesn't he want to share?
13:09 TheRedMood He gives no reason
13:09 wei2912 cosarara97: they are flaming here
13:09 TheRedMood cosarara97: This started with him being all high and mighty
13:09 TheRedMood Flaming?
13:09 CTMN No
13:09 TheRedMood I am having a argument with him
13:09 TheRedMood Is that bad?
13:09 CTMN He wanted to see my code
13:09 TheRedMood cosarara97: you ask why he won't share any code
13:09 wei2912 cosarara97: a raid from #crunchbang
13:09 TheRedMood A raid?
13:09 TheRedMood No
13:10 cosarara97 I didn't ask that
13:10 TheRedMood Those guys came because I need help to attack him
13:10 cosarara97 I asked what code you are talking about
13:10 TheRedMood He is making a game
13:10 wei2912 cosarara97: they raided #centos the other time
13:10 CTMN Because he cant attack me alone
13:10 TheRedMood And he said he was not a newb at c++
13:10 CTMN My code
13:10 TheRedMood And i need to learn more c++
13:10 CTMN U NOT
13:10 TheRedMood So i wanted him to paste some code
13:10 TheRedMood And he basiclly started backing down
13:10 CTMN I didnt say that!!!
13:10 TheRedMood the secound 2 more people joined
13:11 CTMN So stop lying
13:11 TheRedMood And now i just want to know why he don't want to share the code
13:11 cosarara97 hey
13:11 TheRedMood Since he loves open source
13:11 cosarara97 let he explain his version first
13:11 TheRedMood And hates copyright
13:11 TheRedMood okey :)
13:11 TheRedMood I have a log of it if you want
13:11 CTMN I said I m not a noob
13:11 wei2912 CTMN: go on...
13:11 TheRedMood ...
13:12 CTMN Then he wanted to see my stuff
13:12 * TheRedMood sits down on a chair
13:12 wei2912 TheRedMood: silence!
13:12 * TheRedMood looks confused ad wei2912
13:12 CTMN Then he asked me to join another channel
13:12 wei2912 They came from #crunchbang to here
13:12 cosarara97 and you went to crunchbang - is that a distro?
13:12 CTMN He quoted what I said about commenting code
13:13 TheRedMood It is sir
13:13 hmmmm joined #minetest
13:13 TheRedMood A very good one
13:13 CTMN Then I went back
13:13 TheRedMood wei2912: SILENCE!
13:13 TheRedMood :o
13:13 CTMN And he wanted to see all my code
13:13 CTMN I gave the code of one small program
13:13 CTMN ANd he wanted more
13:14 CTMN And started to suck because I dont want to share more
13:14 TheRedMood Is it my turn now?
13:15 CTMN Yes
13:15 TheRedMood oeky :D
13:15 TheRedMood cosarara97: how much of the log do you want pasted?
13:15 cosarara97 all of it
13:15 TheRedMood okey
13:15 TheRedMood let me connect with a clienter where I can do that
13:15 wei2912 sigh
13:16 TheRedMood There
13:16 TheRedMood Okey well let me start pasting everythign he said
13:16 TheRedMood Want me to paste it in parts?
13:16 cosarara97 put it on pastebin
13:16 TheRedMood Like one block at a time
13:16 TheRedMood yeah i know
13:17 cosarara97 blocks is fine
13:18 TheRedMood http://pastie.org/5073045
13:18 TheRedMood This is the start
13:19 TheRedMood I didn't like the way he said that he was not a noob
13:19 TheRedMood So i decided to test him
13:19 CTMN A noob is someone who doesnt
13:20 CTMN know anything
13:20 cosarara97 ok
13:20 TheRedMood we are moving on
13:20 wei2912 CTMN: OOP should be used. AOP too
13:20 TheRedMood I need to take a break now
13:20 CTMN I know
13:20 TheRedMood Can you give me 5 min?
13:21 CTMN I wrote "except I dont use much OOP"
13:21 cosarara97 I'm also writing a game in C++, you know?
13:21 CTMN No
13:22 cosarara97 I use OOP a lot, though
13:22 cosarara97 SDL as well
13:22 wei2912 left #minetest
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13:23 TheRedMood okey
13:23 TheRedMood Well I am continuing
13:23 cosarara97 ok
13:23 TheRedMood Doing this by hand so a bit slow
13:23 CTMN So continue
13:23 q66 joined #minetest
13:23 wei2912 TheRedMood: just post in one chunk
13:23 cosarara97 yeah
13:24 TheRedMood http://pastie.org/5073086
13:24 TheRedMood Here we see that I am getting irritated
13:24 TheRedMood And the inital feude over why he is not willing to give up a file starts
13:24 TheRedMood I went into another channel and said that they should join me
13:25 TheRedMood Since maybe that would make it easier
13:25 TheRedMood To correct hui
13:25 TheRedMood okey
13:25 TheRedMood Will try to paste the rest in on chunk
13:27 wei2912 joined #minetest
13:28 TheRedMood Here
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < TheRedMood> So i wanted him to paste some code
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < CTMN> U NOT
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < TheRedMood> And he basiclly started backing down
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < CTMN> I didnt say that!!!
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < TheRedMood> the secound 2 more people joined
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < CTMN> So stop lying
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < TheRedMood> And now i just want to know why he don't want to share the code
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < TheRedMood> Since he loves open source
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < cosarara97> hey
13:28 TheRedMood 15:15 < cosarara97> let he explain his version first
13:28 TheRedMood 15:16 < TheRedMood> And hates copyright
13:28 TheRedMood 15:16 < TheRedMood> okey :)
13:28 TheRedMood 15:16 < TheRedMood> I have a log of it if you want
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16 < CTMN> I said I m not a noob
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16 < wei2912> CTMN: go on...
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16 < TheRedMood> ...
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16 < CTMN> Then he wanted to see my stuff
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16  * TheRedMood sits down on a chair
13:29 TheRedMood 15:16 < wei2912> TheRedMood: silence!
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17  * TheRedMood looks confused ad wei2912
13:29 cosarara97 yeah, yeah, I know that part
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < CTMN> Then he asked me to join another channel
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < wei2912> They came from #crunchbang to here
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < cosarara97> and you went to crunchbang - is that a distro?
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < CTMN> He quoted what I said about commenting code
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < TheRedMood> It is sir
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 -!- hmmmm [~hmmmmmmm@pool-72-79-161-8.sctnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #minetest
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < TheRedMood> A very good one
13:29 TheRedMood 15:17 < CTMN> Then I went back
13:29 TheRedMood 15:18 < TheRedMood> wei2912: SILENCE!
13:29 TheRedMood 15:18 < TheRedMood> :o
13:29 TheRedMood 15:18 < CTMN> And he wanted to see all my code
13:29 TheRedMood 15:18 < CTMN> I gave the code of one small program
13:29 TheRedMood 15:18 < CTMN> ANd he wanted more
13:29 TheRedMood 15:19 < CTMN> And started to suck because I dont want to share more
13:29 TheRedMood 15:19 < TheRedMood> Is it my turn now?
13:29 TheRedMood 15:19 < CTMN> Yes
13:29 TheRedMood 15:19 < TheRedMood> oeky :D
13:30 TheRedMood 15:19 < TheRedMood> cosarara97: how much of the log do you want pasted?
13:30 TheRedMood 15:20 < cosarara97> all of it
13:30 TheRedMood 15:20 < TheRedMood> okey
13:30 TheRedMood 15:20 < TheRedMood> let me connect with a clienter where I can do that
13:30 TheRedMood 15:20 < wei2912> sigh
13:30 TheRedMood NO!
13:30 TheRedMood Nono
13:30 TheRedMood http://pastie.org/5073105
13:30 TheRedMood There
13:30 TheRedMood Sorry!
13:30 CTMN Do u know what u r pasting?
13:30 TheRedMood Sorry so much
13:30 cosarara97 lol
13:30 TheRedMood I pasted the wrong thing
13:30 TheRedMood Going to get kicked for flooding now :(
13:30 TheRedMood Well cosarara97 did you get the link?
13:30 TheRedMood Atleast?
13:30 TheRedMood http://pastie.org/5073105
13:30 TheRedMood Here
13:30 TheRedMood This is the full logg
13:30 wei2912 ???
13:31 TheRedMood I think miss/sir found something amusing :D
13:34 TheRedMood cosarara97: Done reading yet?
13:35 TheRedMood cosarara97: Maybe not it was quite the long read
13:35 TheRedMood THere is a lot of usless chitchatter there
13:35 TheRedMood But I included the whole thing
13:35 TheRedMood So it woulden't look like it was eddited
13:35 TheRedMood If you can crossreference it with VanessaE later
13:35 TheRedMood or OldCoder
13:35 TheRedMood Then that would also be nice :D
13:37 TheRedMood Another one bites the dust :D
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13:38 TheRedMood CTMN: Well can I get an answer to the question?
13:38 TheRedMood Why won't you share it?
13:38 CTMN Because I already share some code
13:38 TheRedMood nope
13:39 TheRedMood That is 20 lines
13:39 TheRedMood that is not good enough
13:39 CTMN Yes
13:39 TheRedMood It could be code from any place
13:39 TheRedMood Nope
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13:39 TheRedMood I can share the code from some advanced project too
13:39 TheRedMood And it would look like it was mine
13:39 TheRedMood But if you paste something like 200 lines
13:39 TheRedMood And it is game related
13:39 TheRedMood Cheating is kind of hard
13:40 TheRedMood So please tell me why you won't share it
13:40 CTMN Because there isnt much to see
13:40 CTMN Because u could steal it
13:40 TheRedMood Well, that is nota good reason
13:40 TheRedMood Well you said you liked open source
13:40 cosarara97 done reading
13:40 TheRedMood so there will be no stealing
13:40 TheRedMood okey
13:41 CTMN Its not under any license
13:41 cosarara97 haven't looked at the code, though
13:41 TheRedMood It is 20 lines
13:41 CTMN U can be sure that its real c++ maths code
13:41 TheRedMood Most of the peopel from #crunchbang agreed that he pulled it from the internet and slightly modified it
13:41 TheRedMood yeah
13:41 TheRedMood But that doesn't make it your code
13:41 TheRedMood cosarara97: the thign I want an answer to now
13:42 TheRedMood Is why he won't share any code of his current project
13:42 TheRedMood Since he clearly states in the log
13:42 CTMN Dont u think that I could copy code from the internet?
13:42 TheRedMood That he loves opensource and hates copyright
13:42 cosarara97 1 - TheRedMood: You are bad
13:42 TheRedMood I kinda am :)
13:42 CTMN continue
13:42 cosarara97 2 - CTMN: If you don't like copyright,
13:42 CTMN what then?
13:42 cosarara97 ...
13:42 cosarara97 why would you want to use it?
13:42 CTMN continuie
13:43 CTMN I wont use it
13:43 TheRedMood he is afraid i would steal it
13:43 CTMN I dont want to use
13:43 CTMN it
13:43 cosarara97 you just want to keep the program for yourself?
13:43 CTMN Yes
13:43 TheRedMood This is where my logic breaks down
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13:43 TheRedMood He loves open source and hates copyright
13:43 cosarara97 Ok, then why are you writing it?
13:43 TheRedMood And now he won't share
13:43 CTMN Look @ yesterday ;-)
13:43 CTMN To have a game
13:44 cosarara97 Well, maybe other people would like to have that game
13:44 CTMN Not really
13:44 cosarara97 Why is that?
13:44 TheRedMood I would like to have it
13:44 TheRedMood :D
13:44 TheRedMood dwarf fortress is driving me mad
13:44 CTMN If u wanna have a compiled version, just play Minicraft
13:44 cosarara97 ?
13:44 CTMN Its almost the same as dwarf fortress and Minicraft
13:44 cosarara97 It's just an exact clone?
13:44 CTMN Yes
13:45 TheRedMood So you wrote minicraft?
13:45 CTMN In C++ and SDL
13:45 TheRedMood Or did you pull the code from it?
13:45 CTMN No
13:45 CTMN Its written in Java!
13:45 TheRedMood No
13:45 CTMN Notch would never program c++
13:45 TheRedMood your code is not minicraft
13:45 NakedFury omg you guys keep on arguing over this crap. ctmn doesnt want to share the code so be it.
13:45 TheRedMood No
13:45 CTMN Yes
13:46 myhrlin yes
13:46 CTMN Just play Minicraft
13:46 myhrlin ish
13:46 TheRedMood I want either him to admit he is breaking logic
13:46 CTMN If u want
13:46 TheRedMood or he can explain why there will be no paste
13:46 TheRedMood He has never touched that subject
13:46 CTMN Because I wanna keep it for me
13:46 wei2912 CTMN: if you did
13:46 wei2912 why wont you share it?
13:46 TheRedMood Even when the person we chose for a judge ( cosarara97 ) asked him about it
13:46 TheRedMood CTMN: And then why do you like open source
13:47 TheRedMood CTMN: you are breaking one of the biggest rules.
13:47 CTMN No
13:47 cosarara97 hey, TheRedMood, don't say he has not written it without evidence, ok?
13:47 TheRedMood CTMN: Open source is built upon sharing code
13:47 TheRedMood Okey
13:47 CTMN Its open source, but only for me
13:47 TheRedMood cosarara97: Find it. Find the reason he won't share code that doesn't break with his own logic
13:47 wei2912 can we get one thing settle
13:47 CTMN I also wont share it compiled
13:47 cosarara97 He doesn't want to release the code for a reason
13:48 TheRedMood yes
13:48 cosarara97 I think that reason can be another one
13:48 TheRedMood And that is what i don't get
13:48 cosarara97 and simpler
13:48 TheRedMood Oh es?
13:48 TheRedMood :o
13:48 TheRedMood What would that be
13:48 myhrlin if CTMN isn't advertising the code in a way that suggests his project is meant to be shared and distributed for others to have then he's fine
13:48 cosarara97 He is ashamed of the code, because it is bad :) (everybody has written bad code)
13:48 cosarara97 And he won't release it closed source, of course
13:48 TheRedMood Well
13:49 TheRedMood Then why diden't he say that?
13:49 cosarara97 because that would be ugly
13:49 cosarara97 hey
13:49 TheRedMood hey?
13:49 cosarara97 maybe it's another thing
13:49 TheRedMood Well, then we still have no answer
13:49 cosarara97 It's just what I thought
13:49 wei2912 minitest was written by PilzAdam at http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2589
13:49 wei2912 minicraft*
13:50 TheRedMood ( I thought that from the very start, but since he says no I am goign trough with this because I am tierd of people thinking that just making up stuff is going to be good enough=
13:50 cosarara97 Now I have to do some homework and go to the English academy, I'll stop typing
13:50 wei2912 wait it
13:50 wei2912 is minitest
13:50 CTMN He wrote MiniTEST
13:50 TheRedMood Well
13:50 CTMN I meant miniCRAFZ
13:50 CTMN Minicraft
13:50 TheRedMood So we still have no explantaion
13:50 TheRedMood cosarara97:  Can we continue this later?
13:50 CTMN Yes
13:50 TheRedMood I need to go aswell
13:51 CTMN Maybe I will answer it in future
13:51 TheRedMood CTMN: I am keeping the logg so we can review it later :D
13:51 TheRedMood No
13:51 wei2912 TheRedMood: can you join my channel also? thanks
13:51 TheRedMood you will adress it when I get home
13:51 TheRedMood I need to get on the biuss
13:51 TheRedMood Now I need to go
13:51 TheRedMood See ya
13:51 CTMN I mean in far future
13:51 CTMN bb
13:51 TheRedMood ctmn
13:51 CTMN What?
13:51 TheRedMood I must say that if i am one thing
13:51 TheRedMood It is disappointed in you
13:51 CTMN ?
13:52 TheRedMood And your weakness in telling that you are not a master in something
13:52 TheRedMood We were born with weaknesses for a reason
13:52 wei2912 CTMN: we are trying to help you
13:52 TheRedMood So hiding them is just going to get your face kicked in
13:52 TheRedMood See ya all :D
13:52 wei2912 CTMN: to clean your code
13:52 cosarara97 omg, you wanted to make fun of his code
13:52 CTMN u r not false
13:52 wei2912 cosarara97: no, he said it wasnt clean
13:52 CTMN Really?
13:53 wei2912 cosarara97: if you scanned the loga
13:53 CTMN He just didnt understand what it was for
13:54 CTMN It should get the distance between 2 points and use it to get
13:54 CTMN other maths stuff
13:54 wei2912 CTMN: cant you let us join? :(
13:55 wei2912 dont be like microsoft
13:55 CTMN What?
13:55 CTMN join where?
13:55 wei2912 join your project
13:55 CTMN I will let u
13:55 wei2912 thanks!
13:55 CTMN My current code is the base for another thing
13:56 CTMN When its ready I will maybe let some people join it
13:56 wei2912 thanks
13:56 myhrlin problem solved
13:57 OldCoder Back
13:57 wei2912 myhrlin: after many lines
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13:57 NakedFury finally no more harrasing ctmn?
13:57 CTMN No
13:58 CTMN OldCoder, something is not right with the new water textures
13:58 CTMN Who did make them?
13:59 OldCoder Real Bad Angel I think
13:59 OldCoder If you mean animated
13:59 OldCoder NakedFury, I have answer regarding last night's problem
13:59 CTMN NakedFury: he was just mean
14:00 OldCoder NakedFury, If a world contains a heavy mesecons mod such as a counter and CPU is used up the world will lag badly
14:00 CTMN OldCoder, the server seems to be slower since it was shut down
14:00 NakedFury did the world had a mesecon contraption?
14:01 CTMN It doesnt just have lags, it even has data loss!
14:01 OldCoder CTMN, which world; 30001? No changes have been made to world but one statue. However mesecons have been updated.
14:01 OldCoder CTMN, that is an important point
14:01 OldCoder Data is not lost. However it lags.
14:01 CTMN No
14:01 OldCoder We must determine what has changed
14:02 OldCoder CTMN, explain
14:02 CTMN I dug a bit under the MrTux letters and I repaired the power line
14:03 CTMN After I exited and joined again, it was like it had been before I joined the first time
14:04 CTMN The blocks that I mined appeared again(after some time too), although I had the stuff in my inventory
14:04 OldCoder Just once I assume
14:04 OldCoder Did this happen more than once?
14:04 CTMN Yes
14:04 OldCoder It is the lag issue
14:05 OldCoder VanessaE states it is a case where things will return after a few minutes
14:05 CTMN If theres a lag, it appears again after some time
14:05 OldCoder Yes
14:05 CTMN Like u wrote
14:05 OldCoder Describe this issue to VanessaE
14:05 NakedFury gonna try the server
14:05 CTMN But it didnt appear again
14:05 OldCoder We can remove mods
14:05 OldCoder CTMN, when did this happen?
14:06 CTMN When I joined the first time after the server was down
14:06 CTMN And there r also some mesecons piston arms at (6.5|y|8.6)
14:06 CTMN The ones that cant be broken
14:06 OldCoder CTMN, see if it happens again. I was replacing the world at that time.
14:07 CTMN Ok
14:07 CTMN The new water textures make it really dark and I dont see anything under water, but thats the problem of RBA
14:08 OldCoder CTMN, speak with him. He will know. He said somebody else did that.
14:08 OldCoder The dark part I think
14:08 CTMN Ok
14:08 OldCoder CTMN, is there animation?
14:08 CTMN Yes
14:08 OldCoder Is it good or bad?
14:08 CTMN It looks nice
14:08 OldCoder Then do this...
14:09 OldCoder Speak to RBA and others. Decide: (a) keep. (b) remove. (c) fix dark.
14:09 OldCoder Choose one of those.
14:09 OldCoder
14:09 CTMN c
14:09 OldCoder I mean...
14:09 CTMN I know
14:09 CTMN I know what to do
14:09 OldCoder Settle this with others. I cannot edit the water myself.
14:09 CTMN for me
14:09 OldCoder Have fun
14:09 CTMN k
14:10 OldCoder Tell me what the group decides and what to update then
14:10 CTMN k I know
14:10 CTMN U didnt cut our village out because I couldnt say u how to do it?
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14:12 OldCoder CTMN, I have not edited the world yet. WorldEdit is broken.
14:12 CTMN really?
14:12 OldCoder CTMN, I did not want you to wait. So I put things back as they were. The only change is to add the statue.
14:12 OldCoder Which was there before. Leave it alone.
14:12 OldCoder
14:13 OldCoder Yes really
14:13 CTMN K
14:13 OldCoder There is a bug in WorldEdit
14:13 OldCoder khonk* says he will report it
14:13 CTMN Which we both discovered?
14:13 OldCoder No
14:13 OldCoder khonk* found it
14:13 OldCoder I think it was him
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14:14 CTMN Ok
14:16 CTMN But u could still remove stairs+
14:17 CTMN A weird thing is also that I saw dry shrubs moving around
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14:18 OldCoder Huh?
14:18 CTMN Really
14:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:18 CTMN I didnt use drugs or drink
14:18 OldCoder CTMN, No regarding stairs+ because it is apparently widely used
14:18 CTMN Hi
14:18 OldCoder CTMN, I believe you
14:18 OldCoder PilzAdam, did you make water textures for RBA?
14:18 CTMN Thx
14:19 CTMN And my house door is always half open half closed, I can even make a screenshot and upload it if I knew where to
14:19 OldCoder CTMN, you can upload screenshots to:
14:19 PilzAdam OldCoder, RBA did them for me
14:19 OldCoder http://imgur.com/
14:20 OldCoder PilzAdam, he said the water is too dark I think
14:20 OldCoder CTMN just said the same thing
14:20 CTMN thx
14:20 OldCoder CTMN, I recommend register there. But you can just note the delete links instead
14:24 CTMN http://i.imgur.com/hCz0i.png
14:24 CTMN Sry that I had taken it while pausing
14:24 CTMN But it can be seen
14:26 CTMN I think there r too many mods
14:26 CTMN Not because of the bugs
14:28 CTMN U had not much time to fit the MrTux letters in I guess?
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14:33 CTMN oh gtg bb
14:33 CTMN I delete the image, but I will maybe upload it again
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14:36 FreeFull CTMN: Door half-closed is usually lag
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14:45 TheRedMoodWin BACK :D
14:46 TheRedMoodWin How are the gentlemen and gentleladies :D
14:50 TheRedMoodWin Seems like my guys have left
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15:04 * Jordach says helo in 52 different languages
15:04 PilzAdam hi
15:04 TheRedMoodWin Jordach How are you
15:04 Jordach alright
15:07 iqualfragile hi
15:07 iqualfragile uhm… redmond
15:08 iqualfragile windows?
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15:11 RealBadAngel hi
15:12 RealBadAngel OldCoder, i got ready fix to the "dark water" problem
15:13 OldCoder Hi
15:22 Jordach alright, some mc bastard stole my idea http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1241536-16x131tiny-pixels-a-continuation/
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15:26 ruskie lo, so wanted to try minetest but with not much luck... any server I enter never connects... I'm using the 0.4.3 build from the ppa on a debian testing system
15:27 NakedFury try minetest.org 30000 to 30011
15:27 Jordach or europe.minetest.orh
15:27 Jordach org
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15:28 NakedFury then tell us if you still cant connect
15:28 RealBadAngel OldCoder, i just got back from work, will send you fixed water in a few minutes
15:29 OldCoder sure
15:29 RealBadAngel ruskie, are you polish?
15:29 TheRedMoodWin Jordach, just remember that it is not stealing but sharing :D
15:29 ruskie RealBadAngel, no
15:30 ruskie NakedFury, can connect there
15:30 RealBadAngel ruskie is a polish word. to describe russians
15:30 ruskie RealBadAngel, I'm aware
15:30 ruskie RealBadAngel, and I believe in a few other languages as well
15:30 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE Have you gotten some sleep
15:32 ruskie NakedFury, now it's downloading media so yay
15:36 TheRedMoodWin Yeah
15:36 cosarara97 hi
15:36 NakedFury downloading media is a good sign
15:37 NakedFury the first time it will take a long time but after that it will be fast
15:37 ruskie yeah
15:38 ruskie now I seem to need to roll my own since the build I had didn't like the jpeg lib version
15:42 RealBadAngel OldCoder, http://realbadangel.pl/animated_water.zip
15:42 RealBadAngel its fixed version
15:42 RealBadAngel rolled by to original visibility under water
15:43 RealBadAngel *back
15:43 OldCoder RealBadAngel, all right
15:43 OldCoder RealBadAngel, will update today
15:44 RealBadAngel i was thinkin bout marble today and got a few new ideas
15:44 OldCoder k
15:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, test Technic please
15:44 RealBadAngel to enhance it a little bit with other kinds of stone
15:45 OldCoder So I can decide to update
15:45 RealBadAngel i know the parameters to the world generation
15:45 RealBadAngel so i can avoid lags
15:45 RealBadAngel i will just add new ones at different heights
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15:47 OldCoder Calinou, wb
15:47 RealBadAngel hi calinou
15:47 Calinou hi
15:47 cosarara97 hi
15:48 TheRedMoodWin WAIT
15:48 TheRedMoodWin Wait wait wait
15:48 TheRedMoodWin RealBadAngel you made techinc?
15:48 TheRedMoodWin :o
15:48 RealBadAngel yes
15:48 TheRedMoodWin Huge applause from me man!
15:48 RealBadAngel thx
15:48 TheRedMoodWin The is a really nice piece of code :D
15:49 RealBadAngel could be better ;)
15:49 TheRedMoodWin I used to make calculators and such in minecraft
15:49 TheRedMoodWin with redstone
15:49 TheRedMoodWin So i think i found another mod who was redstone ish
15:50 TheRedMoodWin Does that integrate with this ore?
15:50 TheRedMoodWin or*
15:50 RealBadAngel i hated redstone, liked redpower
15:50 TheRedMoodWin ?
15:50 TheRedMoodWin Why did you hate redstone
15:50 TheRedMoodWin :o
15:50 RealBadAngel with mesecons? already started to use mesecons (redstone) with my machines
15:50 TheRedMoodWin Yeah
15:51 TheRedMoodWin That was the name
15:51 TheRedMoodWin Nice!
15:51 TheRedMoodWin If you ever want some code cleaning I can lend a hand
15:51 RealBadAngel because redpower2 wireing and logic, not to mention 6502 computer is light years beyond redstone
15:51 TheRedMoodWin I am kind of usless for anything else x3
15:52 RealBadAngel and mesecons are closer to redpower than the redstone
15:53 RealBadAngel like some1 wrote what redstone is: huge valley contains incredible redstone circuit to just open the door
15:53 TheRedMoodWin I have to disagree with you
15:53 RealBadAngel it was sarcastic
15:53 RealBadAngel but its very real
15:54 RealBadAngel simple circuits made with redstone are just huge
15:54 * Jordach 's left eye went blurry
15:54 TheRedMoodWin ohh
15:54 TheRedMoodWin Yeah
15:54 TheRedMoodWin I agree wit hthat
15:55 RealBadAngel while latches, all logic gates, timers etc
15:55 RealBadAngel in redpower are single blocks
15:55 TheRedMoodWin But I think that you just need to scale what you are building
15:55 * Jordach is off to play Forza 3
15:55 RealBadAngel not to mention wireing
15:55 RealBadAngel that can go every direction
15:55 NakedFury redstone contraption are just not worth it at all
15:55 TheRedMoodWin they so are :D
15:55 RealBadAngel or be bundled, so you can hava a cable with 16 wires in it
15:55 NakedFury they so are not
15:56 TheRedMoodWin We can talk about this all day
15:56 TheRedMoodWin It is like python versus java
15:56 NakedFury everything needs a huge stupid waste of space
15:56 TheRedMoodWin Or C vs java
15:56 Calinou lolpytho
15:56 Calinou +n
15:56 RealBadAngel not comparable simply
15:56 Calinou * Jordach is off to play Forza 3
15:56 cosarara97 Calinou
15:56 TheRedMoodWin Well it is
15:56 Calinou better play supertuxkart
15:56 Calinou 8D
15:56 RealBadAngel stone age to electronic age
15:56 cosarara97 Do you know why people spawn trapped in a box in your server?
15:56 Calinou cosarara97: hi, I know about server, yes it is down
15:56 cosarara97 It's not
15:56 Calinou ah, that's pretty much normal, fixed spawn point is not set
15:57 cosarara97 It is set, I think
15:57 cosarara97 But it's set to a jail
15:57 Calinou going to set it again and I'll see
15:57 RealBadAngel calinou? i asked somethin in priv
15:57 Calinou O_o no... there's no jail on my server
15:57 TheRedMoodWin Well
15:57 cosarara97 well, not a jail
15:57 cosarara97 but a box
15:57 TheRedMoodWin I think that it is much more down to the basics
15:57 TheRedMoodWin And more fun
15:57 TheRedMoodWin to use redstone
15:57 cosarara97 that you cannot break without a tool
15:57 TheRedMoodWin because it really is challanging
15:58 TheRedMoodWin But i also love cables
15:58 TheRedMoodWin So I just think both are awesome
15:59 Jordach Calinou, what?
16:04 Calinou :P
16:06 RealBadAngel calinou, have you tried to generate ores with perlin?
16:09 Calinou why?
16:09 Calinou I'm not attempting to recreate minecraft's slowness
16:09 Calinou :P
16:09 RealBadAngel u think this way is slow?
16:10 RealBadAngel im tryin to add more kinds of stone. added marble already, it looks nice
16:10 RealBadAngel but have it everywhere, would like it to be found in certain areas
16:11 NakedFury a dwarf fortress type of generation would be cool.
16:11 RealBadAngel whats the type?
16:11 NakedFury well it has many type of rocks
16:12 RealBadAngel will take a look on its code then
16:12 NakedFury Sedimentary
16:12 NakedFury Igneous intrusive and extrusive
16:12 NakedFury and metamorphic
16:12 RealBadAngel i dont want to go so far
16:12 NakedFury in total: 24 different
16:13 NakedFury not counting ores
16:13 RealBadAngel just a few different types like marble, granite
16:13 RealBadAngel maybe basalt
16:13 RealBadAngel thats all
16:14 RealBadAngel with basalt i would like to make same thing as eloraam did in redpower
16:14 NakedFury Chalk, Chert, Claystone, Conglomerate, Dolomite, Limestone, Mudstone, Rock Salt, sandstone, shale, siltstone, diorite, gabbro, granite, andesite, basalt, dacite, obsidian, rhyolite, gneiss, marble, phylite, quartzite, schist, slate
16:14 RealBadAngel volcanoes
16:14 NakedFury http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Stone
16:15 RealBadAngel so it seems like dwarves go rather into hardcore mining way
16:15 NakedFury yes
16:15 NakedFury well see you later. got a test today
16:15 RealBadAngel i dont want to go so far
16:16 NakedFury yeah 24 different textures is extreme
16:16 RealBadAngel a few ores, few kind of stone, a volcano
16:16 RealBadAngel thats all i want to make with worldgen
16:17 Calinou perlin should be used correctly, else Mr. Perlin can slap you
16:17 Calinou for small stuff like ores it is not needed
16:17 RealBadAngel im not goin to use it with ores
16:17 RealBadAngel marble, granite deposits
16:18 RealBadAngel lemme show you
16:18 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/marble2.png
16:18 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/marble2.png
16:18 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/marble.png
16:20 RealBadAngel does it deserve to use Perlin's noise? :)
16:22 FreeFull Which one? He made at least two
16:22 RealBadAngel i guess that implemented in MT
16:22 FreeFull There is the classic perlin noise, and then there is simplex noise
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16:31 TheRedMoodWin Um
16:31 TheRedMoodWin My pc is actully running minetest to fast
16:31 TheRedMoodWin So it is going in slowmotion
16:32 TheRedMoodWin It is kind of annoying
16:38 Jordach PilzAdam tried mesecons http://ompldr.org/vZndubw/pilzpower.zip
16:44 Jordach PilzAdam, pilzpower's stackover flow might be from the recursive ness
16:48 * Jordach signs in into deviantart for a liturature post
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17:17 Jordach hey NekoGloop
17:17 NekoGloop Shush.
17:17 NekoGloop I'm hiding :3
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17:20 TheRedMoodWin Wait
17:20 TheRedMoodWin wait wait wait wait...
17:20 TheRedMoodWin I smell
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17:20 * TheRedMoodWin smells around the channel
17:20 TheRedMoodWin It smells of
17:20 TheRedMoodWin NEKO :D
17:21 NekoGloop Shut up already
17:21 TheRedMoodWin NekoGloop How are you!
17:21 TheRedMoodWin :D
17:21 TheRedMoodWin Ohh
17:21 RealBadAngel hi neko
17:21 RealBadAngel some1 has answered in the topic 10 months dead
17:22 TheRedMoodWin Why is neko mad at me :o
17:22 RealBadAngel some folks has speed of retired chees players
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17:22 TheRedMoodWin What do you mean?
17:22 TheRedMoodWin hey hey hey
17:23 TheRedMoodWin Chess players are kewl people :D
17:23 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=626
17:23 RealBadAngel look at the dates
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17:33 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/cave.png
17:33 RealBadAngel marble and granite meets in one cave
17:34 CTMN RealBadAngel, u did make the animated water textures, right?
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17:35 RealBadAngel tetures yes, code not. anyway made it brighter again. oldcoder has already fixed version
17:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ?
17:35 CTMN So he told u about this?
17:35 OldCoder CTMN, I think he saw scrollback
17:35 OldCoder CTMN, Test Technic
17:35 OldCoder On EU
17:35 RealBadAngel exacatly
17:36 RealBadAngel oldcoder, im adding now granite, see screenshot
17:36 OldCoder k
17:36 NekoGloop Do we make marble bricks?
17:36 RealBadAngel already done
17:36 OldCoder RealBadAngel, indicate when ready to test. After update please test. No new features then. Must decide whether to update.
17:36 NekoGloop Do we make granite sculptures?
17:37 RealBadAngel dunno
17:37 CTMN Just make granite blocks
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17:37 RealBadAngel hold on
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17:38 CTMN Or another mod which uses nodeboxes can have them
17:38 CTMN Just some ideas
17:39 NekoGloop Like, ahem, 3dforniture? ;)
17:39 CTMN I thought about something like stairs+
17:39 NekoGloop Oh whatever.
17:39 CTMN Or node deploy
17:39 CTMN 3d forniture isnt the best example for nodeboxes
17:40 NekoGloop Stairsplus needs to be able to have other mods externally call its registering call.
17:40 RealBadAngel same cave in HD: http://realbadangel.pl/cave_128x.png
17:40 NakedFury im back from a succesful 100% test
17:40 OldCoder NakedFury, previous problem is related to high CPU use. I don't have it yet in general. But Mesecon devices can cause it.
17:41 NekoGloop NakedFury: Did you have anything in mind for gloopore uses?
17:41 NakedFury ok. I need to make a battery because when you downgraded technic to check causes it becaome a unknown block
17:42 NakedFury NekoGloop: I always find insane amounts of  desert blue ore so a use for that would be great
17:42 NekoGloop Tooltips exist for a reason :P
17:42 NekoGloop It's called AKALIN
17:42 NakedFury yes but once I exit game I forget it all
17:42 NekoGloop Heh.
17:43 NakedFury also I need to ask
17:43 NakedFury the red ore, is it good food or evil food?
17:43 CTMN Me too with the colored ores
17:43 NakedFury there are times when I have 1 heart left and a few red ores and I am afraid of dying and eating it
17:43 CTMN Eating ores?
17:43 OldCoder Is MT TCP or UDP for port 30000 ?
17:44 NekoGloop The red ore is kalite. It tastes like chicken :3
17:44 RealBadAngel udp i believe
17:44 OldCoder k
17:44 CTMN OldCoder, maybe its useful if I say that MT servers seem not to answer to pings
17:44 NakedFury Kalite could be used with farming mods for food growth or similar uses
17:45 NekoGloop Yes it could.
17:45 OldCoder CTMN, ?
17:45 OldCoder CTMN, do you mean literal pings?
17:45 OldCoder I have not enabled that on my servers
17:45 NakedFury also the green ore is very resistant, I think more than mese pick
17:45 CTMN NekoGloop: as a recipe for fertilizer
17:45 RealBadAngel for marble bricks i need sensible 16x texture
17:45 OldCoder CTMN, if you mean the standard MT server live test that does work
17:45 NekoGloop I was thinking of coding a farming mod because pilzadams' is just horrible. Graphics and otherwise.
17:45 NekoGloop NakedFury: It's supposed to be.
17:46 NekoGloop Arol tools are very resistant, but dig slowly.
17:46 NakedFury yeah noticed that
17:46 NekoGloop What we need is for swords to take damage when used.
17:46 RealBadAngel i do have 128x ready: http://realbadangel.pl/technic_marble_bricks.png
17:46 OldCoder RealBadAngel, test Technic when you can
17:46 NakedFury ok this anime got funny. after a kick to the balls the character lost on of them
17:47 NekoGloop Doesnt make sense that i can use the same sword infinetly
17:47 NakedFury one of them
17:47 RealBadAngel OldCoder, i need to just add 16x texture for marble bricks
17:47 RealBadAngel then im ready with the update
17:47 OldCoder k
17:48 RealBadAngel that whats on the EU server is already well tested
17:48 cosarara97 It doesn't make sense that tools disappear when they break
17:48 CTMN Why?
17:48 NekoGloop Tools should disappear when broken.
17:48 NakedFury cosarara97: I would prefer for a broken tool icon to remain
17:48 NekoGloop Because they're... Broken.
17:48 RealBadAngel and bye bye
17:49 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Wut?
17:49 RealBadAngel broken and bye bye
17:49 NekoGloop Yeah?
17:49 cosarara97 Broken, but still there
17:49 NekoGloop Duh?
17:49 NekoGloop Broken is broken. Gone. Bye bye.
17:49 RealBadAngel lol
17:50 RealBadAngel now he got it ;)
17:50 NakedFury broken tools can bring reparation crafting
17:50 NakedFury recycling
17:50 CTMN It should turn into sticks
17:50 NekoGloop NakedFury: Ever put two of the same tool in the craftgrid?
17:50 RealBadAngel with Tool workshop you can repair your tools
17:50 NekoGloop That too.
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17:51 NakedFury we can recycle broken tools for a return of 1 material
17:53 RealBadAngel NakedFury, seen already the new look of batbox?
17:53 NakedFury yes
17:53 NakedFury you are a pain. its gonna take time to craft myself a new doku texture
17:53 NakedFury :D
17:53 RealBadAngel hehehe
17:53 CTMN Or craft it with some materials to restore ir
17:53 Calinou <OldCoder> Is MT TCP or UDP for port 30000 ?
17:53 Calinou UDP
17:53 Calinou TCP sucks for games :)
17:54 RealBadAngel use doku for Redpower2
17:54 Calinou that's why minecraft uses it
17:54 Calinou I mean realtime ones
17:54 RealBadAngel if there is one
17:54 OldCoder Calinou, k
17:54 NakedFury omg apparently minecraft will have animated ores and shit
17:54 RealBadAngel there shall be texture for redpower Battery Box
17:54 NakedFury I found lots of animated textures for dokucraft on their main forums, even a 64 frames torches
17:55 CTMN Is notch stealing ur code?
17:55 NakedFury in any case jeb not notch
17:55 cosarara97 jeb?
17:55 NakedFury the developer
17:55 RealBadAngel NakedFury, http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/pre-release-of-dokucraft-technic-tekkit-support-released-download-at-op.7453/
17:55 CTMN Jeb?
17:55 NakedFury notch is not in minecraft stuff anymore. he is now in 10c something
17:56 NakedFury already got that RBA
17:56 NakedFury but their battery textures suck balls
17:56 CTMN Oh I know
17:57 NakedFury the hardest thing for me is painting grass and leafs because minecraft uses a gradiant thingy for them so originaly they are grey
17:59 OldCoder Most Minetest build instructions are highly outdated or incomplete. Here are build instructions for CentOS
17:59 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mtbuildcentos.html
17:59 OldCoder
17:59 OldCoder More distros will be added in the future
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18:05 RealBadAngel ok, ive made marble bricks texture
18:05 ThisisNotLandMin cool story not silene
18:05 ThisisNotLandMin silence**
18:10 cosarara97 Who is this? :)
18:10 Jordach sfan5, op
18:10 Jordach ThisisNotLandMin, good try BITCH
18:10 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/marble_wall.png
18:10 ThisisNotLandMin was kicked by Jordach: ThisisNotLandMin
18:11 cornernote lol
18:11 RealBadAngel marble bricks wall and floor made of granite
18:11 RealBadAngel how do you find it?
18:13 Jordach @#minetest blank LandMine like the US Banks ignore the money crisis
18:14 RealBadAngel same in HD: http://realbadangel.pl/wallHD.png
18:15 TheRedMoodWin X3
18:15 cosarara97 I don't like that HD pickaxe
18:15 TheRedMoodWin Jordach i like the little power ranger move you and sfan5 had
18:15 RealBadAngel lol, i wasnt askin for pickaxe :)
18:15 TheRedMoodWin Jave27 x3
18:16 TheRedMoodWin Jordach x3
18:16 TheRedMoodWin Jordach And i will ignore him
18:17 cosarara97 Would it be difficult to make minetest render high resolution tools better?
18:18 RealBadAngel propably not, but that means C++, not LUA
18:19 cosarara97 I know
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18:22 Jordach RealBadAngel, use semi flatten in gimp
18:22 Jordach removes part alpha channels, like 40%
18:22 Jordach but not 100 % or 0 %
18:22 RealBadAngel what for?
18:22 Jordach making the rtool appear right
18:22 Jordach VanessaE uses this method
18:24 RealBadAngel i will try
18:24 RealBadAngel meanwhile same wall again, 16x textures, bilinear filtering: http://realbadangel.pl/wall_bilinear.png
18:24 RealBadAngel looks neat imho
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18:25 TheRedMoodWin Jordach I think my joke was pretty funny :(
18:25 TheRedMoodWin Jordach what is wrong with the joke?
18:29 RealBadAngel OldCoder, update to technic is ready
18:30 OldCoder k
18:30 OldCoder Busy 5 minutes but thx
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19:01 Jordach oh god; technically incorrect http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48020#p48020
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19:04 Jordach VanessaE, present?
19:04 VanessaE barely
19:04 Jordach aws
19:04 Jordach aw
19:04 VanessaE 'sup?
19:04 Jordach * Jordach has kicked ThisisNotLandMin from #minetest (ThisisNotLandMin)
19:04 VanessaE I saw that in the backlog
19:04 Jordach <Jordach> ThisisNotLandMin, good try BITCH
19:04 VanessaE (just skimmed it today, tl;dr :-)
19:05 Jordach we should have a auto voice system
19:05 Jordach so admins can remove voice
19:06 VanessaE maybe.  stuff like that is up to c55 (I don't have control of channel default settings like that)
19:06 * Jordach checks gmail, sees one g+ notification
19:07 VanessaE from me, responding to your friend request :-)
19:07 Jordach :D
19:07 * Jordach hates fb dut to cookie spies
19:08 * Jordach then lets google chrome spy on me
19:08 VanessaE all these damn random people always wanting to friend me, jeez...
19:08 VanessaE ;)
19:08 Jordach google is the iron giant of privacy compared to fb
19:09 Jordach VanessaE, type into google " bacon number barack obama"
19:10 banlieue error: your client version is not supported
19:10 banlieue what should i do?
19:10 Jordach update
19:10 Jordach also depends on the server
19:10 VanessaE banlieue: upgrade to the version the server in question is using.
19:11 VanessaE Jordach: oh, 6 degrees of kevin bacon.  Surprised that is still going around.
19:11 Jordach yep
19:11 VanessaE banlieue: probably you need to fetch the latest version.
19:11 Jordach Chuck Norris's Bacon number is 2
19:11 Jordach i thought it would be Chuck Norris has no bacon number
19:12 VanessaE HAH!  I don't have a bacon number :D
19:12 Jordach my bacon search Jordach has 8 repos written in Lua, C, and C++. Follow their code on GitHub
19:13 Jordach bacon number jordan snelling
19:13 Jordach try it
19:14 VanessaE nope.
19:15 VanessaE no number, just the usual search results :-)
19:17 khonkhortisan The stairs are backwards in the right-side-up house
19:18 khonkhortisan So it was flipped both y and z.
19:19 VanessaE weird
19:19 khonkhortisan nope, all axes. y for upside-down, z for stairs, x for furnaces.
19:20 khonkhortisan hey I can walk through the middle of the table on the first floor
19:21 VanessaE yeah I know
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19:21 VanessaE I forgot to make those tabletops walkable (or not, whichever it is)
19:21 VanessaE I'm gonna be converting them to nodeboxes soon though
19:23 khonkhortisan the copy I sent back to you still has to be flipped xz.
19:24 VanessaE oh that reminds me,
19:24 VanessaE https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/buildings/worldedit/VanessaE_home1.we
19:24 VanessaE https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/buildings/worldedit/VanessaE_home2.we
19:24 VanessaE cornernote's 0.5 versions.
19:28 khonkhortisan and those are missing the shingles
19:32 banlieue i can't enter any server.. timeout or version problem
19:34 NakedFury game version 0.4.3?
19:34 banlieue i dont know
19:34 Jordach m
19:34 Jordach damn keyboard
19:35 NakedFury open game and check upper left corner
19:35 banlieue minetest (main menu)
19:38 banlieue ?
19:38 NakedFury yes
19:39 NakedFury it should also appear on the window border up. minetest and versions number
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19:39 banlieue no
19:39 banlieue i cant see
19:39 banlieue only write minetest main menu
19:40 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/ws7-t-o
19:40 banlieue sorry i have not
19:40 NakedFury then sorry I dont know how to check it
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19:42 banlieue what should i do? how can i update?
19:42 NakedFury do you use linux or windows?
19:42 banlieue linux
19:42 banlieue ubuntu
19:43 NakedFury if its windows: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1523
19:43 NakedFury for ubuntu linux I dont know
19:44 TheRedMoodWin VanessaE
19:44 TheRedMoodWin look in msg
19:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, updating
19:45 OldCoder RealBadAngel, EU is updated and restarting
19:45 OldCoder Please test Technic
19:48 khonkhortisan If you make a loop of wire and add a button and a microcontroller that's programmed sbi(C,A) you'll get power out of nowhere
19:54 banlieue i found version: c55 0.3.1
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20:02 TheRedMoodWin okey
20:02 TheRedMoodWin epic python coding quest
20:02 TheRedMoodWin Begin
20:03 khonkhortisan this is what it looks like when you merge multiple pull requests at the same time https://github.com/bas080/chess/network
20:03 TheRedMoodWin Hahaha :D
20:07 Jordach night all
20:16 TheRedMoodWin See ya all :D
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20:17 Muadtralk greetings!
20:17 NekoGloop Evenin
20:18 NakedFury evening
20:21 Muadtralk dang it no pilzadam
20:21 Muadtralk i had some suggestions for his mob mod
20:21 NakedFury summon him
20:21 NakedFury call him 3 times and wait
20:21 iqualfragile banlieue: go to http://minetest.net/download.php
20:22 iqualfragile there you will find daily/unstable
20:22 banlieue why not stable?
20:22 banlieue :D
20:22 iqualfragile because nobody actualy uses that
20:22 iqualfragile so you wont be able to play on any server
20:23 banlieue oke i use precise
20:23 iqualfragile some bits of black magic later: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds
20:23 banlieue 12.04
20:23 iqualfragile sudo apt-add-r<tab> ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
20:23 NekoGloop You can play on any server as long as client protocols match
20:23 iqualfragile sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
20:24 iqualfragile yeah, but there were quite some changes from .3x to .4x, wernt there
20:24 NekoGloop Yeah from 0.3.1 to 0.4.3, duh.
20:24 iqualfragile thats what i said
20:25 NekoGloop But 0.4.3 is stable one.
20:25 NekoGloop So people -do- use the stable.
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20:26 iqualfragile yeah, but precice has 3.1
20:26 iqualfragile banlieue: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
20:27 iqualfragile oh, wait, no
20:27 iqualfragile you first need to uninstall minetest if you had it installed
20:27 banlieue yeah ok
20:27 iqualfragile sudo apt-get remove minetest; sudo apt-get install minetestc55
20:27 iqualfragile and then you are done
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20:32 iqualfragile vanessae: can you remove the spamming-bot-questions, please?
20:32 iqualfragile or at least exclude me
20:33 NekoGloop She cant
20:33 NekoGloop Neither can celeron, i'm about 99% sure
20:33 iqualfragile i promise that i wont pass or accedentialy publish my over 128 charakters long password wich i cant even remember myself
20:33 NekoGloop XD
20:35 banlieue oh yeah
20:35 banlieue thanks iqualfragile
20:36 iqualfragile if you had used a real os (mac/windows) you woud not have needed my help
20:36 NekoGloop Mac isnt a real os
20:36 NekoGloop Windows is the only real os
20:37 banlieue np i love ubuntu and linux
20:37 banlieue :D
20:37 NekoGloop Ucraptu and shitnix arent real os's
20:37 iqualfragile but there are allmost no games for it!
20:37 iqualfragile and bad grapic-card-drivers
20:37 khonkhortisan Windows is a lying os
20:37 iqualfragile and its unstable
20:38 NekoGloop There are a shitton of games for windows
20:38 NekoGloop It's perfectly stable.
20:38 NekoGloop And graphics card drivers? Just get a real graphics card.
20:38 iqualfragile i was talking about linux
20:38 iqualfragile idiot
20:38 NekoGloop Oh right.
20:39 NekoGloop Well then you're perfectly correct.
20:40 iqualfragile and linux is so unsafe! there is no personal firewall and there is no virus-scann!
20:40 NekoGloop Yup.
20:40 NekoGloop 'Course, i never use windows' firewall or virusscan
20:40 iqualfragile and its open source wich basicly says that anybody could change my os! thats so horrible
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20:47 Muadtralk ouch i heard linux bashing coming from here
20:47 NekoGloop Yes.
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20:49 khonkhortisan if only ghoststone transferred power
20:50 Muadtralk haha! quickly someone put this in their minetest.conf "fov = 100"
20:50 Muadtralk i didnt know this worked!
20:55 khonkhortisan Cool! Now I feel like I'm playing tremulous!
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20:55 khonkhortisan fov = 100 + fast = dretch
20:56 khonkhortisan I wonder what the max for that other game is
20:56 NekoGloop Minecrap?
20:56 Muadtralk 110
20:56 Muadtralk i tihnk
20:57 Muadtralk i was running 180 fov
20:57 Muadtralk on minetest it got rather trippy
20:58 khonkhortisan 360 ftw!
20:59 NekoGloop Lol?
20:59 NekoGloop fov does the same it does in mc?
21:00 khonkhortisan I feel like a giant if I look down
21:01 Muadtralk haha
21:01 iqualfragile wait
21:01 iqualfragile there is fov?
21:01 khonkhortisan ~/.minetest/minetest.conf: "fov = 100"
21:01 iqualfragile awsome
21:02 iqualfragile echo "fov = 100" >> ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
21:02 khonkhortisan 180 is upside-down but 360 isn't
21:03 khonkhortisan 360 isn't actually 360 :(
21:04 iqualfragile thats amazing
21:04 OldCoder 21:00:58: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): Receive(): Peer not found
21:04 OldCoder I seem to be getting a lot of those FWIW
21:06 khonkhortisan fov is a setting it would be nice to have in-game
21:07 NakedFury all settings should be ingame not on ancient outside game files
21:07 iqualfragile no, its buggy
21:08 NekoGloop Like disabling clouds? That would be wonderful
21:10 Muadtralk /set enable_clouds false
21:10 Muadtralk i think yes?
21:10 Muadtralk i forget if thats actually a setting
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21:15 OldCoder U.S. worlds going down to update and check into crashes
21:22 RealBadAngel Oldcoder hold on
21:22 RealBadAngel i was about to send you testing report :)
21:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Do it
21:23 OldCoder Rebuilding now
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21:38 OldCoder U.S. worlds restarted
21:38 OldCoder hmm
21:38 OldCoder that did not work
21:53 NakedFury testing us world zero
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21:56 OldCoder NakedFury, Need to worldedit that region
21:57 NakedFury unrepaireable?
21:57 RealBadAngel its down again i think
21:58 OldCoder NakedFury, not sure
21:58 OldCoder RealBadAngel, checking
21:59 OldCoder I don't see a crash
21:59 OldCoder Or a debug file
21:59 OldCoder World is running
21:59 RealBadAngel so thats me just, im unable to play on it
21:59 OldCoder Can you teleport or fly?
22:00 RealBadAngel world doesnt load around me
22:00 RealBadAngel lag is too big
22:00 RealBadAngel cant play here
22:01 RealBadAngel EU is the only option for me
22:02 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I understand
22:02 OldCoder I will update EU later
22:02 OldCoder It is an odd situation
22:02 RealBadAngel so i will test it tommorow then
22:02 OldCoder I can't ATM but will do so soon
22:02 OldCoder Wait
22:02 OldCoder What is your schedule
22:02 RealBadAngel its midnight here
22:03 RealBadAngel at 5 am i have to wake up and go to work
22:03 RealBadAngel so either now or tommorow
22:04 OldCoder RealBadAngel, do not MT any longer!
22:04 OldCoder Go to sleep!
22:04 OldCoder ttyl
22:04 OldCoder Could do now
22:04 OldCoder But it is really too late
22:04 RealBadAngel and i would like to test what ive done ;)
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22:05 RealBadAngel 15 minutes doesnt make any difference
22:06 OldCoder It would take 10 to update
22:06 OldCoder I say go sleep
22:06 NakedFury noooooooooooo that last disconnect from the server killed my LASER!!
22:06 OldCoder ?
22:06 OldCoder How?
22:06 NakedFury no idea it banished!
22:06 OldCoder NakedFury, the world crashed and I can't see why
22:06 OldCoder I hope to debug these things
22:06 NakedFury no log?
22:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ty and night
22:06 OldCoder NakedFury, None
22:06 OldCoder Neither debug.txt
22:06 RealBadAngel it went nuts a few days ago
22:06 OldCoder Nor anything in main log
22:07 OldCoder Yes
22:07 NakedFury dammit its hard to help test when no logs happen
22:07 OldCoder I can run in debugger
22:07 OldCoder Folks I will be gone soon for a few hours though
22:07 RealBadAngel with the hole at my base location
22:07 OldCoder Can somebody
22:07 OldCoder get me the SW and NE coords
22:07 OldCoder for that?
22:07 OldCoder I will worldedit it
22:07 NakedFury ok ill try
22:11 NakedFury ok first corner: (-16.7, 3.5, -16.2)
22:12 NakedFury second corner: 15.6, 1.5, -32.8
22:12 NakedFury there
22:12 OldCoder NakedFury, ty
22:12 OldCoder Will experiment later
22:12 OldCoder for now
22:12 OldCoder See if patterns to crashes
22:12 OldCoder For those on 30011; same issue
22:26 M13 joined #minetest
22:26 M13 hello?
22:27 khonkhortisan ¿hello
22:30 OldCoder Hi
22:35 khonkhortisan /time 4500
22:36 khonkhortisan and /time 18500 are sunrise and sunset
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22:46 NotTheLandMine Jordach you mad bitch? hahahaha
22:53 khonkhortisan haha I made a spiral in the sky and immediately the dirt turned into grass and grew trees
23:00 khonkhortisan That's probably a bug, that dirt can turn into grass blocks at a time
23:02 OldCoder I am seeing crashes on 30011 again. Sorry no diagnosis yet.
23:06 khonkhortisan Hello NotTheLandMine
23:06 NotTheLandMine hi khonkhortisan
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23:26 hmmmm lots of retarded OS fanboyism here.
23:26 hmmmm i'm just going to let you know (you know who you are) that it's pretty immature.
23:28 NotTheLandMine_ stfu hmmm and say the name
23:28 NotTheLandMine_ hmmmm
23:30 iqualfragile hmmmm what do you mean? i cant see any fanboyism
23:32 NotTheLandMine_ yeah get of my dick hmmm
23:32 NotTheLandMine_ hmmm^^^
23:32 khonkhortisan lang
23:32 NotTheLandMine_ my bad
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23:50 JangoFett154 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38
23:54 OldCoder JangoFett154, I am gone for a few hours. If you play watch for crashes and report any patterns
23:54 OldCoder That applies to others too BTW
23:54 JangoFett154 ok cool
23:54 OldCoder We have two worlds with problems but everything is up ATM and we'll do what we can
23:54 OldCoder ttyl
23:55 * OldCoder nods
23:55 JangoFett154 ttyl
23:55 * OldCoder is away
23:55 NotTheLandMine_ JangoFett154 wanna makeout?
23:55 JangoFett154 no
23:56 JangoFett154 get out of here kid, this is IRC not facebook
23:56 khonkhortisan old people use this

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