Time  Nick             Message
00:00 JangoFett154     i didnt
00:00 VanessaE         jango: maybe it's "save target as..."
00:01 khonkhortisan    try ctrl-s
00:01 JangoFett154     yes VanessaE i just tried and it worked
00:01 VanessaE         when you right click the file in the list I gave you in the web page
00:01 VanessaE         see?  told you.
00:01 khonkhortisan    Now where does this worldedit file go?
00:02 VanessaE         khonkhortisan: inside minetestfolder/mods/minetest/worldedit
00:02 VanessaE         if memory serves.  it's been a while since I last used it to load/save files
00:02 khonkhortisan    I should have a test.we somewhere
00:03 khonkhortisan    oh maybe it's in the world
00:03 JangoFett154     Vanessa you did not tell me a think i fugred it out then came to chat then you said that
00:03 VanessaE         the path got changed?
00:03 khonkhortisan    yep, ~/.minetest/worlds/snth/schems/test.we
00:03 JangoFett154     omg now it says it wont load
00:04 VanessaE         JangoFett154: [10-16 19:56] <VanessaE> any random browser can download a file. :-)
00:04 khonkhortisan    meta.wem test.we test.wem
00:04 JangoFett154     [19:58] <@VanessaE> internet explorer isn't a random browser - it's a piece of crap ;)
00:04 JangoFett154     <@VanessaE> internet explorer isn't a random browser
00:05 NakedFury        what is wrong here: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6kidvov0z
00:05 VanessaE         that was a joke, duh :-)
00:05 NakedFury        that is on oldcoders first server and it keeps happening even after relogin
00:05 VanessaE         NakedFury: looks like mapgen lag
00:05 VanessaE         or you're half-buried
00:05 khonkhortisan    you are in the ground and the water doesn't look connected, but that might be because the water is touching the surface of the cave toward you
00:05 NakedFury        a 10 minute lag?
00:05 VanessaE         try jumping
00:06 khonkhortisan    you might have to dig out
00:06 NakedFury        im jumping like a rabbit and moving all over the place
00:06 NakedFury        only that area is like that
00:06 VanessaE         weird
00:06 VanessaE         which server is that on?
00:06 NakedFury        minetest.org 30k port
00:07 NakedFury        server zero
00:07 VanessaE         OldCoder: well, there's your port-30000 issue :-)
00:07 NakedFury        maybe that is why it kept rolling back all I did
00:08 NakedFury        lost like 8 stacks of sandstone to that but if I found the bug im happy
00:08 VanessaE         yup, that's severe lag, sounds like the server's locked up or something
00:09 khonkhortisan    haha not allowing to replace air and an upside-down house.
00:10 VanessaE         figures.
00:10 VanessaE         I don't have the link to the 0.5 version of the house
00:10 khonkhortisan    if there's a //flip a newer version could be made
00:10 VanessaE         (he exported those files to 0.5 for me, but I don't have local copies thereof)
00:11 OldCoder         ?
00:11 OldCoder         Reading
00:11 NakedFury        http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6kidvov0z
00:12 VanessaE         khonkhortisan , JangoFett154 try this one:  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_2J6-jZFt5oNHZsQ0l3UTBXUVE/edit?pli=1
00:13 VanessaE         that might be the 0.5 version; my web history is unclear
00:13 * khonkhortisan  learned today how to recover from a failed git merge
00:15 khonkhortisan    that filename is missing its capitals
00:17 khonkhortisan    same version
00:20 OldCoder         khonkhortisan, which mods do you figure are doing this?
00:21 RealBadAngel     NakedFury, it looks EXACTLY like the place im spawning in the 30000
00:22 NakedFury        yes your base
00:22 RealBadAngel     and cannot do anything
00:22 RealBadAngel     blocks never gets loaded
00:23 OldCoder         Is there a change that I should make?
00:23 OldCoder
00:24 OldCoder         BTW For everybody: I have fixed some of the crashes in Town Test. My copy will be public for download soon. I am putting all of my modsets online for download.
00:24 OldCoder
00:24 RealBadAngel     cornernote updated it?
00:24 RealBadAngel     i mean towntest
00:25 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, no. I did.
00:25 OldCoder         World 30011 died permanently last night
00:25 OldCoder         Could not be revived
00:25 OldCoder         Problem was a rogue TownTest NPC
00:25 RealBadAngel     lol
00:25 OldCoder         I found a bunch of nil pointer deferences
00:25 OldCoder         So my version should be safer
00:25 OldCoder         He'll get the source and can merge if he wishes
00:25 OldCoder         From now on
00:25 RealBadAngel     NPC's revenge for leting him to much work?
00:26 OldCoder         When I rebuild the worlds, all of the modsets will be rebuilt and posted automatically
00:26 OldCoder         Possibly
00:27 RealBadAngel     OldCoder,i do have one thing to test online
00:27 OldCoder         Fine
00:27 RealBadAngel     could we?
00:27 OldCoder         Of course
00:27 OldCoder         Today was difficult
00:27 RealBadAngel     lemme prepare the git
00:27 OldCoder         Slept 5 hours starting at 7am
00:28 OldCoder         Here for the next 6 hours though
00:28 OldCoder         Occupied elsewhere but can fix MT
00:30 RealBadAngel     ok, git rdy to go
00:30 RealBadAngel     do it just on EU
00:30 RealBadAngel     can you backup world first?
00:33 OldCoder         EU first and yes
00:33 khonkhortisan    I flipped the house and now there's water falling out the bottom
00:33 RealBadAngel     so do the backup please
00:33 RealBadAngel     in case of fail we could go back then
00:34 OldCoder         Sure
00:34 RealBadAngel     its not just a new tool or somethin
00:34 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Looking for my ssh window
00:35 RealBadAngel     its bout world generation
00:35 OldCoder         Found it
00:35 OldCoder         Yes
00:35 OldCoder         Going down
00:35 RealBadAngel     k
00:35 OldCoder         Backup in progress
00:35 OldCoder         Fast because just one world
00:39 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, restarting EU with new Technic
00:39 OldCoder         eventually this will be much faster
00:39 RealBadAngel     k
00:39 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, broken
00:39 OldCoder         I will analyze shortly
00:40 RealBadAngel     logs?
00:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Yes
00:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I am ultratasked ATM
00:44 OldCoder         and exhausted. But this is fun. We will work on things shortly.
00:44 RealBadAngel     ok, can wait
00:45 OldCoder         AndrewPH, hi
00:46 OldCoder         anunakki, hi
00:49 VanessaE         khonkhortisan: oh, thanks :-)
00:54 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, try now please
00:54 OldCoder         It was something I didn't know about the game
00:54 RealBadAngel     ok
00:54 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I will be busy elsewhere for about 15 minutes but can update repeatedly thereafter
00:54 RealBadAngel     what was that?
00:54 OldCoder         maybe
00:55 VanessaE         bbl
00:55 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, that if you rename a mod folder to have a period MT does not like it
00:55 RealBadAngel     indeed
00:56 RealBadAngel     cant connect
00:56 RealBadAngel     connectin now
00:58 OldCoder         k
01:03 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, are you sure you have updated technic?
01:03 RealBadAngel     it looks like you didnt
01:06 RealBadAngel     yeah, definitely
01:10 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I did
01:10 OldCoder         Hold on
01:10 RealBadAngel     please redo
01:10 OldCoder         Of course
01:10 OldCoder         That was the hold on part
01:11 RealBadAngel     :)
01:11 OldCoder         Deleted old technic
01:11 RealBadAngel     im sure you didnt because even node definition is not here
01:11 OldCoder         poof
01:11 RealBadAngel     maybe we just desynced
01:11 OldCoder         https://nodeload.github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/zipball/master
01:11 OldCoder         downloaded that
01:12 RealBadAngel     now it looks ok
01:12 OldCoder         Unpacked
01:12 OldCoder         Renamed
01:12 OldCoder         Restarting
01:14 RealBadAngel     now its here
01:14 RealBadAngel     it was desync :)
01:14 RealBadAngel     lets explore some
01:15 OldCoder         Muadtralk, wb
01:16 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, what is desync?
01:16 RealBadAngel     out of synchronization
01:16 RealBadAngel     you have dowloaded technic before ive updated it
01:16 OldCoder         k
01:19 RealBadAngel     it works, causes one time lags, but not really somethin new to minetest
01:19 RealBadAngel     we do have now nice marble caves
01:20 RealBadAngel     lemme play a bit more with it
01:20 RealBadAngel     i think i made it too common
01:21 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, j
01:21 OldCoder         k
01:21 RealBadAngel     im disconnectin now
01:21 RealBadAngel     please restore backup
01:24 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, updated git with changes, please apply
01:24 RealBadAngel     wb sdzen
01:25 OldCoder         Hi
01:25 sdzen            ive been back
01:25 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, proceeding
01:25 RealBadAngel     that was short "a few hours" :)
01:26 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, restarting
01:26 RealBadAngel     sdzen, together with OldCoder we are testin now marble generation on online server
01:26 sdzen            good
01:27 RealBadAngel     now ive lowered the chance
01:27 RealBadAngel     there were too many of it
01:28 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, k
01:28 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, connecting
01:28 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, cycles will get faster
01:28 OldCoder         I just have not automated Europe yet
01:29 RealBadAngel     i halved the chances to generate it
01:29 RealBadAngel     so lags should be halved as well
01:29 leo_rockw        die forum ist kaput! D:
01:29 leo_rockw        DON'T PANIC
01:30 sdzen            PANIC!
01:30 sdzen            i forgot my towel
01:31 leo_rockw        I never read THHGTTG
01:31 leo_rockw        I should
01:31 sdzen            you should
01:32 RealBadAngel     run! run four your LIVES!
01:32 RealBadAngel     and remember! dont panic at all
01:32 leo_rockw        I listened to the first chapter in audio book.
01:33 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, how is it working now?
01:34 RealBadAngel     well, i must say its cool
01:34 OldCoder         Functioning correctly?
01:34 RealBadAngel     i will have to adapt perlin noise to it later on
01:34 RealBadAngel     but yes
01:34 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Play a bit more
01:34 RealBadAngel     its workin fine
01:34 RealBadAngel     playin
01:35 OldCoder         Decide when to update main worlds
01:35 OldCoder         sdzen, wb
01:35 RealBadAngel     lemme dig a few minutes more
01:39 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, please redownload the mod, restore backup and start it again
01:40 RealBadAngel     im tryin now to minimalize the lag effect
01:40 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, om
01:41 RealBadAngel     a sec with mod
01:41 RealBadAngel     forgot to press "sync" lmao
01:41 RealBadAngel     in sync now
01:50 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, ?
01:50 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Hi
01:50 OldCoder         Ready?
01:51 OldCoder         Want EU test?
01:51 RealBadAngel     hehe, yes
01:51 OldCoder         k
01:55 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, restarting
01:55 RealBadAngel     k
01:59 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, crash?
01:59 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, reviewing
01:59 OldCoder         Yes
02:00 RealBadAngel     log?
02:00 OldCoder         Checking
02:00 OldCoder         ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: PseudoRandom.next(): max < mi
02:00 OldCoder         03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]: stack traceback:
02:00 OldCoder         03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  [C]: in function 'next'
02:00 OldCoder         03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/technic/
02:00 OldCoder         03:59:59: ERROR[EmergeThread]:  ...e/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/technic/
02:00 OldCoder         Sorry for long pastet
02:00 OldCoder         *paste
02:02 RealBadAngel     ok, changed the values, restore backup, redowload mod
02:03 RealBadAngel     now it should be just fine
02:03 RealBadAngel     that will be last test for today i think
02:03 RealBadAngel     need to go soon
02:04 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, shall we test?
02:04 OldCoder         No?
02:04 OldCoder         Should I update EU?
02:04 RealBadAngel     yes
02:04 RealBadAngel     update it
02:05 RealBadAngel     now everything shall work fine
02:05 OldCoder         Restarting
02:05 OldCoder         Famouse lastt warods
02:05 RealBadAngel     lol
02:07 RealBadAngel     not really, got message "bad..." something
02:07 RealBadAngel     dunno whats bad :)
02:07 RealBadAngel     nah, my side
02:07 RealBadAngel     joined
02:08 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, k
02:08 OldCoder         Works?
02:09 RealBadAngel     testing
02:09 jimmy1           can someone tell me whether the forum is supposed to be up, I keep getting a error
02:10 OldCoder         jimmy1, Hi
02:10 OldCoder         The MySQL database server seems to be down
02:10 jimmy1           G'Day
02:10 OldCoder         It is not you
02:11 RealBadAngel     ok, it works
02:11 RealBadAngel     im goin afk now, thx OldCoder for help
02:11 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, OK
02:11 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I will wait
02:11 OldCoder         To update main
02:12 OldCoder         Until you test further
02:12 OldCoder
02:12 RealBadAngel     after i got back from work i will add more stuff to world gen
02:12 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, All right
02:12 OldCoder         Bbut
02:12 OldCoder         But
02:12 OldCoder         stabilize this version first maybe
02:12 OldCoder         Test it
02:12 RealBadAngel     yeah, by now leave it on EU just
02:12 OldCoder         Before new features
02:12 OldCoder         Yes
02:12 OldCoder         C U
02:12 RealBadAngel     cya
02:13 NakedFury        was the problem fixed at server zero
02:13 OldCoder         NakedFury, I have been waiting
02:13 OldCoder         I posted a question far above
02:14 OldCoder         I asked
02:14 OldCoder         Should I change anything?
02:14 OldCoder         What would you request or suggest?
02:14 OldCoder         I am at your disposal
02:14 NakedFury        ohh didnt see that
02:14 NakedFury        well I dont know. the problem is that nothing stays
02:14 OldCoder         NakedFury, Wait
02:14 OldCoder         I have heard this one other place
02:15 OldCoder         One of the mod updates may be bad
02:15 OldCoder         Any clues?
02:15 NakedFury        sadly no
02:15 OldCoder         Hmm
02:15 NakedFury        it just happened today
02:15 OldCoder         I may need to downgrade mods
02:15 OldCoder         Checking
02:18 jimmy1           I was going to ask this on the forum if it was working, is there any way to get cmake or src worlds to work properly(minimal works though) being I keep getting errors when I try playing in them
02:19 OldCoder         jimmy1, yes
02:19 OldCoder         jimmy1, I have often built them
02:19 OldCoder         What is your OS?
02:19 OldCoder         NakedFury, checking updated mods
02:20 NakedFury        I hate cmake
02:20 OldCoder         NakedFury, could it be mesecons?
02:20 OldCoder         I updated that yesterday
02:20 OldCoder         The other updates seem minor
02:21 jimmy1           fedora 17, i built from source since repo version 0.3.1
02:21 NakedFury        tried a de upgrade
02:21 OldCoder         NakedFury, ?
02:21 OldCoder         NakedFury, explain
02:21 OldCoder         Shall I downgrade mesecons?
02:21 NakedFury        go back to last version
02:21 OldCoder         Yes
02:21 OldCoder         Wait
02:21 NakedFury        yeah lets try that
02:22 OldCoder         Rebuilding the worls
02:22 OldCoder         *ds
02:24 OldCoder         NakedFury, worlds rebuilt and restarting
02:24 NakedFury        ok waiting ready for action
02:25 OldCoder         mesecons downgraded about 10 days
02:25 OldCoder         See if there is a change
02:25 jimmy1           the errors I get when I try playing are mainly to with trying to load images, is there anything you could suggest to fix it
02:26 OldCoder         jimmy1, we'd need more information about the errors
02:26 OldCoder         What happens?
02:26 OldCoder         Oh
02:26 OldCoder         jimmy1, build 0.4.3
02:26 OldCoder         jimmy1, hold on
02:26 OldCoder         just a moment
02:27 OldCoder         jimmy1, do you have Fedora GNOME ?
02:27 OldCoder         That version?
02:27 jimmy1           yes
02:27 NakedFury        perhaps its a technic problem? the area with realbadangels chest and stuff is inaccesible
02:30 jimmy1           I have a screenshot of the error if it helps, I was going to include it in a forum post
02:32 * cornernote     misses the forums :(
02:33 OldCoder         jimmy1, Hi
02:33 OldCoder         Excuse elay
02:33 OldCoder         NakedFury, I will downgrade technic
02:34 OldCoder         http://minetest.org/clients/minetest-12.10.08-0.noarch.rpm
02:34 OldCoder         jimmy1, try that
02:34 OldCoder         I may need to talk you through a few steps
02:36 OldCoder         NakedFury, so mesecons wasn't it? Looking at technic
02:37 OldCoder         NakedFury, reverting Technic by about 4 days
02:37 OldCoder         Worlds going down and up
02:39 OldCoder         NakedFury, try now if you can
02:39 OldCoder         Both Mesecons and Technic are reverted
02:39 OldCoder         Most of the other changes are VanessaE mods
02:39 OldCoder         Those seem unlikely to be the issue
02:40 OldCoder         NakedFury, additionally I have not rebuilt the program itself recently
02:40 OldCoder         Or made other VPS changes of significance
02:40 OldCoder         So it's probably in the mods
02:40 OldCoder         Unless it is database corruption
02:40 jimmy1           @oldcoder what is glsl?
02:41 OldCoder         jimmy1, checking
02:41 NakedFury        ok someone else should check that world. the spawn area stil is missing
02:41 NakedFury        im gonna check around my place that has technic stuff
02:41 OldCoder         jimmy1, It's a Fedora OpenGL thing. Looking for the package.
02:42 OldCoder         jimmy1, are you getting an error message?
02:42 OldCoder         What do you see?
02:43 jimmy1           when I start it in the command line is tells me GLSL not available
02:43 OldCoder         k
02:43 OldCoder         Thx
02:43 OldCoder         Checking
02:44 OldCoder         jimmy1, is that the only error message?
02:45 jimmy1           so far, yes
02:47 OldCoder         It aborted?
02:49 jimmy1           no, just sit there with the last message displayed
02:49 OldCoder         Oh
02:49 OldCoder         jimmy1, what command did you type?
02:50 jimmy1           minetest
02:50 OldCoder         In XOrg?
02:50 OldCoder         No window has appeared?
02:50 jimmy1           in the gnome terminal
02:50 jimmy1           not so far, no
02:53 OldCoder         Hmm
02:54 OldCoder         So program runs and does not abort. But no window appears. I cannot help further. jimmy1 my advice is to build the program. I can probably talk you through it but not until next week.
02:54 OldCoder         jimmy1, as an alternative
02:54 OldCoder         Can you identify the exact ISO that was used to install your Fedora?
02:57 OldCoder         NakedFury, has anybody else reported problems?
02:57 jimmy1           I had a look where I got the source from and turns out I didn't get minetest_game (didn't know I needed it to be honest) thanks for the help though
02:58 OldCoder         I know of two cases who state things disappear
02:58 OldCoder         Ah
02:58 OldCoder         jimmy1, try the new RPM
02:58 OldCoder         Unless
02:58 NakedFury        dont know if anybody else conected
02:58 OldCoder         the repo minetest_game works for you
02:58 jimmy1           I got it from github, does github have a repo?
03:00 OldCoder         jimmy1, github has lots of repos
03:00 OldCoder         jimmy1, you can try either 0.3 or 0.4 for MT
03:00 OldCoder         jimmy1, wherever you get MT from
03:00 OldCoder         Check for a version of minetest_game that matches
03:00 OldCoder         In my case
03:00 OldCoder         The RPM includes it
03:01 OldCoder         But see if it's in the repos where you found 0.3
03:01 jimmy1           I didn't know that, I was trying to get latest version to have a go on a online server
03:02 OldCoder         jimmy1, k
03:02 OldCoder         jimmy1, the RPM I gave you is that
03:02 OldCoder         Problem is no window
03:02 OldCoder         Do you know how to check error logs?
03:03 OldCoder         Hmm
03:03 OldCoder         Look in $HOME/.minetest
03:03 OldCoder         Does the folder exist yet?
03:03 jimmy1           the fedora repo only has 0.3.x, one moment
03:07 jimmy1           the version of minetest I compiled  get me a different error to the error I got when trying to run mine test after installing the rpm above
03:10 OldCoder
03:10 OldCoder         jimmy1, Yes
03:10 OldCoder         jimmy1, What sources did you compile from?
03:13 jimmy1           github, I working at the moment. the thing it won't let me do is free_move or fast_move
03:14 iqualfragile     yeah, nobody uses 3.x anyways, you would not be able to play on any server using that
03:14 iqualfragile     whene are you playing on? your own local game?
03:14 iqualfragile     your own server?
03:14 iqualfragile     or another ones server?
03:15 jimmy1           I was going to try on a online server if it ever connects
03:16 jimmy1           thanks for the help oldcoder
03:22 OldCoder         Hi
03:22 OldCoder         jimmy1, wait; what is the error then?
03:24 jimmy1           when I tried running after installing the above rpm it just told me GLSL not available, but that might just be a missing dependency on my end
03:25 OldCoder         Yes
03:25 OldCoder         Never mind the RPM
03:26 OldCoder         I mean
03:26 OldCoder         with your compiled version?
03:27 ThisIsNotLandMin lololol\
03:28 ThisIsNotLandMin anyyone knowhow to install compile mt on centOS?
03:31 jimmy1           oh, I was getting could not load image errors when trying play in cmake or src worlds, I'll just stick with the minetest_game worlds, they seem to work
03:33 ThisIsNotLandMin same
03:34 OldCoder         jimmy1, if you are still here, I am curious
03:34 OldCoder         What do you mean by trying play in cmake or src worlds
03:34 OldCoder         ?
03:37 jimmy1           when I create a new world it gave the game options cmakefiles, minimal development test and src, only minimal development test worlds worked
03:40 OldCoder
03:41 OldCoder         jimmy1, this is interesting. Thank you. I don't know of these options. Somebody more qualified will need to comment.
03:42 OldCoder         jimmy1, put a copy of the minetest_game folder
03:42 OldCoder         in the same folder that contains the minimal folder
03:42 jimmy1           to change the subject slightly, how do I get fast_move and free_move privilages in a local game?
03:42 OldCoder         You press the right keys
03:43 OldCoder         I believe they are configurable
03:43 OldCoder         Under Settings
03:43 OldCoder         Try that screen
03:43 OldCoder         Get the 0.4.3 minetest_game folder from git or minetest.net
03:43 OldCoder         Unzip
03:43 OldCoder         Copy to the right folder
03:43 OldCoder         You may be in business
03:43 OldCoder
03:45 jimmy1           I tried the keys, but it tells me no fly priv and no fast priv
03:47 OldCoder         jimmy1, do this
03:47 OldCoder         jimmy1, I have not tried singleuser much
03:47 OldCoder         but this should work
03:47 OldCoder         Delete the world you created
03:47 OldCoder         Edit your minetest.conf file
03:47 OldCoder         Add this line
03:48 OldCoder         name = jimmy
03:48 OldCoder         or
03:48 OldCoder         name = Jimmy
03:48 OldCoder         choose one and be consistent
03:48 OldCoder         Then create a new world
03:48 OldCoder         Using that name
03:48 OldCoder         This should give you full power
03:49 OldCoder         or do this
03:49 OldCoder         To the same file
03:49 OldCoder         Add this line
03:49 OldCoder         (wait)
03:50 OldCoder         No...
03:50 OldCoder         Alternative is
03:50 OldCoder         To play the game once
03:50 OldCoder         Exit
03:50 OldCoder         edit minetest.conf
03:50 OldCoder         Sorry
03:50 OldCoder         I am tired jimmy1 and will skip the alternate procedure ATM
03:50 OldCoder         Add the name = jimmy line
03:50 OldCoder         Create a new world
03:51 OldCoder         and join under that name
03:51 OldCoder         What happens?
03:51 jimmy1           okay thanks for the help
03:51 OldCoder         Good luck
03:51 OldCoder         Let us know
03:52 jimmy1           I'll give it a go when I get back, thanks
04:19 NakedFury        found a good 64 frames animated torch
04:20 NakedFury        all I need now is to edit them for all torch forms
04:20 BrandonReese     Anybody know how long the forums are going to be down?
04:20 NakedFury        until celeron55 fixes it I think
04:21 BrandonReese     that's what I figured
04:22 NakedFury        yeah
04:23 NakedFury        not much we can do to minetest when he goes missing
04:45 OldCoder         anunakki, Hi
04:46 OldCoder         NakedFury, what is the status of the problem; if you're here. Still occurring?
04:46 anunakki         hi
04:47 * OldCoder       will return a little later
04:48 * OldCoder       requests more information about the problem with disappearing items as he wishes to fix it
05:03 TheRedMoodWin    Back
05:38 OldCoder         Back
05:38 OldCoder         Calinou, Back Welcome
05:38 OldCoder         Has anybody noticed a problem where things disappear?
06:12 * khonkhortisan  was tricked by a website countdown timer
06:12 khonkhortisan    it goes from 00:10 to 00:1 and back again
06:27 Calinou          people in #bukkitdev @ espernet, especially the mojang employees, are very, very smart
06:27 Calinou          let me quote that for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284456/
06:30 VanessaE         Calinou: lol
06:32 VanessaE         Calinou: well now I see how you keep getting banned :-)
06:32 VanessaE         * Calinou is now known as Trollinou
06:32 VanessaE         :D
06:33 Calinou          haven't been banned... for now...
06:33 OldCoder         VanessaE, Calinou Hi
06:33 VanessaE         hi OldCoder
06:33 OldCoder         VanessaE, NakedRage and one or two others
06:34 OldCoder         have reported an issue where things disappear
06:34 OldCoder         I downgraded Mesecons and Technic
06:34 OldCoder         as I upgraded them yesterday when the problem is said to have started
06:34 OldCoder         But it may persist
06:34 OldCoder         I have no more information. Are you aware of the issue?
06:36 VanessaE         I've seen it happen only when a server is badly laged
06:36 VanessaE         lagged
06:36 Calinou          I feel like talking to mark shuttleworth(less) in that channel ._.
06:36 VanessaE         but nakedfury's issue seemed far worse than the usual lag - like 10+ minutes of that half-loaded map even after signing off/on once or twice
06:36 Calinou          VanessaE: ecube's syndrom much?
06:37 Calinou          this happened on ecube's server a lot for me
06:37 OldCoder         VanessaE, diagnosis?
06:41 VanessaE         beats me, I haven't had that happen to me yet
06:41 VanessaE         worst I get is just some lag where a server might take a couple minutes to send the map data
06:41 VanessaE         I always attribute it to them having a slow pipe
06:42 OldCoder         VanessaE, You don't think it's Mesecons or Technic then?
06:46 VanessaE         I don't know
06:46 VanessaE         I mean, it could possibly be
06:47 VanessaE         mesecons can drag a server to its knees if abused
06:47 VanessaE         technic possibly as well
06:47 VanessaE         this seemed more like the server just couldn't send any map data, but NakedFury said he could move around etc.
06:47 VanessaE         but he couldn't dig/build - everything was being undone
06:49 OldCoder         <skully_> when you plant it dispears
06:49 OldCoder         <skully_> when you hoe it unhoes
06:49 OldCoder         <skully_> when you put water and go away for 5 mins the its gone
06:49 OldCoder         <OldCoder> what if you stay and watch?
06:49 OldCoder         <skully_> nothing it gose away when you left no joke
06:49 OldCoder
06:49 OldCoder         What about this?
06:49 OldCoder         Does it sound like the same thing?
06:49 VanessaE         that's the same thing, yes
06:49 VanessaE         that is a reflection of server lag
06:50 VanessaE         what happens is the client tells the server "I just dug block A and X,Y,Z" and the server's supposed to respond either with an acknowledgement, or by undoing what you did
06:50 VanessaE         when a server lags, often you will see all of your work undone in one shot and then slowly repeated block by block
06:50 VanessaE         until it catches up with whatever you did
06:51 OldCoder         Hmm
06:51 OldCoder         So it comes back
06:51 OldCoder         I am not experiencing high CPU
06:51 OldCoder         I wonder
06:51 OldCoder         I'll put the updated mods back then
06:52 VanessaE         yeah, your mod collection, by itself, won't do this
06:52 OldCoder         I didn't do much on the servers today like copying large files
06:52 VanessaE         what will do it is if a CPU-hogging mod is being abused somehow
06:52 VanessaE         for example:
06:52 OldCoder         So I can watch CPU usage
06:53 OldCoder         If it goes high this will happen
06:53 VanessaE         I created a really simple clock circuit with one Mesecons microcontroller and a couple of lengths of wire.  When set to oscillate at 3-4 Hz (a reasonable speed for a Mesecons construction) everything is fine.  Accelerate it to say 15 or 20 Hz, the server starts to lag
06:53 OldCoder         Ah!
06:53 OldCoder         But I should see this in the server CPU usage
06:53 OldCoder         Is this correct?
06:53 VanessaE         combine that with any reasonable circuit, such as a 4-bit counter, and the server will lag really badly.
06:53 VanessaE         yes
06:53 OldCoder         All right
06:53 VanessaE         it's a CPU issue
06:54 VanessaE         the Lua engine saps too much CPU from the rest of the server to let it do anything
06:54 OldCoder         If you see NakedRage you might mention this. I will as well.
06:54 VanessaE         NakedFury
06:54 OldCoder         He has a different name in Twitter
06:54 VanessaE         oh ok
06:54 OldCoder         I can't keep them straight
06:54 VanessaE         I don't use my twitter account :-)
06:54 OldCoder         Do so
06:54 OldCoder         Then you can
06:54 OldCoder         Add to my mighty Follower Army
06:55 OldCoder         which is about 6 if you subtract the robot ones
06:55 OldCoder         :-)
06:55 OldCoder         I am BoldCoder there BTW
06:55 OldCoder         Thx for the lag explanation
06:55 OldCoder         The two worlds
06:55 OldCoder         where this has been reported
06:55 OldCoder         are probably both getting complex
06:56 TheRedMood       okey
06:59 OldCoder         Restoring mods
06:59 OldCoder         U.S. worlds going down for update
06:59 OldCoder         Does anybody have updates to add?
07:01 OldCoder         U.S. worlds back
07:02 VanessaE         nothing new here.  My last update to anything was that fix for seaweed in flowers to control it a little bette
07:02 VanessaE         rbetter*
07:02 VanessaE         qeyhfr3ewyr34670trxrt78407t340xctc344t
07:02 OldCoder         k
07:03 VanessaE         but you already have it
07:03 OldCoder         VanessaE, when?
07:03 OldCoder         Ah
07:03 VanessaE         I think - it was a couple of days ago
07:03 VanessaE         hi jin
07:04 VanessaE         thanks for the congrats earlier btw :-)
07:04 cornernote       hey, the forum is down
07:04 jin_xi           hi VanessaE yeah, its cool!
07:04 cornernote       just incase anyone didnt know
07:04 cornernote       ;)
07:04 VanessaE         hey cornernote
07:04 VanessaE         we know
07:04 jin_xi           mt is so educational
07:04 * VanessaE       is going through forum withdrawal
07:04 cornernote       yeah, i know we know
07:04 * cornernote     is just being a funny guy
07:05 VanessaE         I know you know we know :-)
07:05 cornernote       but...
07:05 * VanessaE       is just being an imp as usual :D
07:05 cornernote       do you know we know that i know we know ?
07:05 VanessaE         yup
07:05 jin_xi           hey cornernote
07:05 cornernote       ok, good
07:05 cornernote       hi jin_xi
07:05 jin_xi           i really dig your api doc efforts
07:05 jin_xi           i had this one idea: make a section for common tasks in mods
07:05 cornernote       VanessaE, as long as we're all on the same page about that, then we're good
07:06 jin_xi           like, check node above for space (air)
07:06 VanessaE         good idea
07:06 jin_xi           and such
07:06 cornernote       jin_xi, what do you mean ?
07:06 VanessaE         check perlin noise, check for air, for loaded area, for neighboring nodes, etc
07:06 cornernote       oh, like code snippets ?
07:06 jin_xi           exactly
07:06 VanessaE         yes exactly
07:06 jin_xi           to harmonize and rise mod quality
07:06 jin_xi           ;)
07:07 * VanessaE       already set the bar really high in that regard ;)
07:07 cornernote       all the snippets would be user-comments ?
07:07 jin_xi           i often think the lua api is too low level, there should be some library built on it for common stuff
07:07 cornernote       or would you like to write a section/page ?
07:07 cornernote       a lua-framework
07:08 VanessaE         jin_xi, cornernote:  opinions regarding adding a new checkbox to the settings menu?  "[X] Enable Texture Atlas"
07:08 jin_xi           for example like in c55 mobs mod, the 3d movement and vector stuff
07:08 cornernote       jin_xi, you should post your ideas as comments, and when i have time i'll turn the comments into improved or new pages
07:09 jin_xi           cornernote, i'd rather not write that section, english is still difficult for me and for stuff like that the details matter
07:09 cornernote       paste code shippets too, it doesnt have to be well organised, but the better it is, the easier it is for me to integrate into docs
07:09 TheRedMood       VanessaE: Good day, Mrs :D
07:09 jin_xi           ok, will give it a try late
07:09 jin_xi           r
07:10 VanessaE         hi red
07:10 cornernote       the idea is that the community will post comments to improve the docs, and some community members can manage the actual pages
07:11 * VanessaE       waits for an answer... :-)
07:11 cornernote       many of the functions need examples, i think more function examples will lead to better coded mods
07:12 jin_xi           VanessaE: I only ever use 16x textures and never had problems with atlas, but why not. the problem seems to come up on the forums often enough
07:13 VanessaE         jin_xi: some folks are starting to have problems with the texture atlas even with 16px textures now, if they have lots of mods
07:13 Calinou          irrelevant to current discussion, but: https://lwn.net/Articles/452293/ < *facepalm*
07:13 Calinou          ipv6 is definitely not going to end this "how do i port forwad" stuff
07:13 Calinou          :/
07:14 Calinou          hope his stuff won't be added to winblows 8, that's the only solution to keep ipv6 natless
07:14 VanessaE         why would IPV6 have anything to do with port forwarding?
07:14 VanessaE         I thought that was all about giving the 'net a really wide address space
07:15 TheRedMood       Hello Basstard`  :D
07:15 TheRedMood       Hello VanessaE :D
07:15 VanessaE         hi
07:16 TheRedMood       How are you?
07:16 ecube            in a red mood
07:16 VanessaE         pretty good
07:16 TheRedMood       I have not hear that before :o
07:16 TheRedMood       That was a good joke!
07:16 TheRedMood       :D
07:16 VanessaE         tired as all hell though
07:16 ecube            :)
07:16 ecube            X_X
07:24 khonkhortisan    you should take a nap in your upside-down house
07:27 VanessaE         haha
07:28 VanessaE         I'm going to bed in a few minutes
07:29 VanessaE         make that..now
07:29 VanessaE         night all.
07:31 ecube            night
07:32 TheRedMood       Night
07:34 ecube            wb
07:36 Calinou          <VanessaE> why would IPV6 have anything to do with port forwarding?
07:36 Calinou          because it is not supposed to have NAT
07:36 Calinou          lack of NAT > lack of port forwarding
07:37 Calinou          we have enough addresses not to use NAT
07:37 TheRedMood       Nice :D
07:37 TheRedMood       Calinou: nice comment on my mod, thanks a lot for the feedback
07:38 Calinou          np
07:38 Calinou          for the command that doesn't show help, a terrible hack is possible, but it would probably require C++ to hide privilege grant/revok
07:38 TheRedMood       yeah
07:38 TheRedMood       I was looking around
07:38 TheRedMood       And I think I could patch something up?
07:39 TheRedMood       But if it is not accepted into the main game what use does it got?
07:39 Calinou          type command > get privilege > do the command > revoke privilege > there, it doesn't show up in /help
07:39 Calinou          this would show "server granted/Revoke privilege", not sure
07:39 Calinou          TheRedMood: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
07:39 Calinou          he's quite inactive these days
07:39 Calinou          feel free to fork it and pull request
07:39 TheRedMood       ?
07:39 TheRedMood       Wait?
07:39 TheRedMood       Wait wait...
07:39 TheRedMood       yes!
07:39 TheRedMood       Yes sir!
07:40 TheRedMood       I have thought of that
07:40 TheRedMood       But I am kind of a freak of the backdraws of that
07:57 mitori           that question must have annoyed everyone
07:57 mitori           but still
07:57 mitori           what's up with mt forum?
07:57 mitori           sorry and thank you in advance
07:58 TheRedMood       Ohh
07:58 TheRedMood       No such thing mitori
07:59 TheRedMood       The sql server, the server that acts as a database, crashed
07:59 TheRedMood       That means that the web server tries to find the data and it doesn't find it
07:59 TheRedMood       I hope this was a good enough answer for you :D
08:00 mitori           i know that much
08:00 mitori           okay then
08:00 mitori           maybe anyone knows
08:01 mitori           when it's going to be up?
08:02 OldCoder         It has happened before
08:02 OldCoder         apparently not permanent
08:04 mitori           lol
08:04 mitori           hope so
08:04 TheRedMood       :)
08:04 mitori           ican't post/downloadmods on irc:D
08:04 TheRedMood       :)
08:04 TheRedMood       Use github
08:04 mitori           well
08:05 TheRedMood       Are you a propritary fan?
08:05 OldCoder         mitori, I can take announcements
08:05 OldCoder         starting tomorrow
08:05 OldCoder         if it continues
08:06 OldCoder         and mods
08:07 TheRedMood       OldCoder: I added /heal, /sethealth
08:07 OldCoder         k
08:07 mitori           what?
08:07 OldCoder         mitori, ?
08:07 mitori           propritary?
08:07 mitori           sorry dunno that word
08:08 Calinou          midori you mean
08:08 Calinou          that's a FOSS lightweight web browser...
08:08 TheRedMood       And I am also going to add a new suntax
08:08 TheRedMood       What is FOSS ?
08:09 OldCoder         Free and
08:09 Calinou          free and open source software
08:09 OldCoder         Open Source Software
08:09 Calinou          free "as in freedom" here
08:09 TheRedMood       Ohh okey
08:10 mitori           no]
08:10 mitori           i'm mitori
08:10 TheRedMood       I know what that is
08:10 mitori           japanese usually confuse my name
08:10 TheRedMood       But I Dident know the name
08:10 mitori           but i'm actually mitori
08:11 TheRedMood       Mitori is a common name in norway :D
08:11 mitori           and i'm a boy. midori's a girl ma,e
08:11 mitori           name*
08:11 mitori           wow :D
08:11 mitori           lol
08:13 TheRedMood       That is noted, sir :)
08:14 mitori           is there anyone
08:14 mitori           who can fix the server
08:14 mitori           except for celeron?
08:17 TheRedMood       Any hacker
08:17 Calinou          since when c55 hosts servers?
08:17 TheRedMood       Which is acomplyed by a cracker
08:17 Calinou          he doesn't, he used to host a secret server which is down now
08:22 TheRedMood       Lol
08:22 TheRedMood       Thins channel is really quite
08:43 OldCoder         anunakki, hi
08:55 OldCoder         I will be back this morning
08:56 TheRedMood       See ya
08:56 OldCoder         k
08:56 TheRedMood       Keep safe :D
08:59 VanessaE         sigh.  so much for sleeping
08:59 VanessaE         so damn itchy I can't relax
09:00 TheRedMood       Ohh
09:00 TheRedMood       :(
09:12 VanessaE         morning Taoki.
09:12 Taoki            hi
09:18 TheRedMood       Morning
09:18 TheRedMood       How are you?
09:24 VanessaE         well the forums are back up, at least that's good news anyway
10:53 VanessaE         ok, time for bed.  again.
10:53 VanessaE         night all.
11:17 NekoGloop        Dont you people ever sleep
11:22 cornernote       i dont
11:23 cornernote       well, i did once
11:24 NekoGloop        Heh.
11:49 TheRedMood       Hello :D
11:51 CTMN             Hi
11:52 CTMN             U r very fast in noticing people joining ;-)
11:52 TheRedMood       Ohh
11:52 TheRedMood       I just got here in my break :)
11:52 CTMN             I didnt mean it negative
11:53 TheRedMood       It was a coincidence
11:53 CTMN             It was just fun
11:53 TheRedMood       Yepp :)
11:53 TheRedMood       I get that
11:53 CTMN             U called me a sad person yesterday, didnt u?
11:53 TheRedMood       Yeah, you seeem sad :(
11:53 CTMN             No Im not
11:54 TheRedMood       Well you sound like it
11:54 CTMN             Not when I sit in front of a PC XD
11:54 TheRedMood       What are you currently doing :)
11:54 TheRedMood       Working on a mod or?
11:54 CTMN             Coding+
11:54 TheRedMood       Nice
11:54 TheRedMood       What lang?
11:54 CTMN             C++
11:54 CTMN             not MT related
11:54 TheRedMood       Really, home learning or?
11:54 CTMN             Just coding a game
11:55 TheRedMood       Ohh, what graphic libary are you using?
11:55 CTMN             SDL
11:55 TheRedMood       Is it a solo project or are you codign with someone?
11:55 CTMN             solo
11:55 TheRedMood       First project you ever do?
11:55 CTMN             Yes
11:55 CTMN             No
11:55 CTMN             Half
11:55 TheRedMood       Ohh
11:55 TheRedMood       Okey
11:55 TheRedMood       you are going to fail
11:56 CTMN             Why?
11:56 CTMN             I coded little stuff 3 years ago then I stopped it and started it again before 2 months
11:56 CTMN             So I cant really say its my first project
11:56 CTMN             But my first big one
11:57 CTMN             And I also coded ASM and BASIC V2 for a 8-bit computer
11:57 TheRedMood       Well you are going to give up
11:57 TheRedMood       That is my guess :9
11:57 CTMN             Why?
11:59 CTMN             I only stopped because I started being addicted by games
12:00 CTMN             And did u ever code in c++?
12:03 TheRedMood       Yeah
12:03 TheRedMood       it is a good lang
12:04 TheRedMood       But starting out with it is bad :(
12:04 CTMN             I didnt start out with c++
12:04 CTMN             Not really
12:05 CTMN             I dont remember exactly what I started with, but I know that there was BASIC too
12:06 TheRedMood       How old are you?
12:06 CTMN             I dont say
12:06 CTMN             But Im less than 18
12:06 CTMN             And more than 10
12:07 CTMN             Why do u ask?
12:09 TheRedMood       Just asking
12:09 TheRedMood       Starting with basic seems wierd
12:09 CTMN             Why?
12:09 CTMN             I know I didnt start only with BASIC
12:10 CTMN             There were other stuff too, but I dont remember anymore
12:10 TheRedMood       okey :)
12:11 CTMN             And Im not a noob except that I dont use much OOP
12:11 TheRedMood       My list is beginning to be so long it is not worth mentioning
12:11 TheRedMood       Wrong
12:11 TheRedMood       You are a beginner in everyway :D
12:12 CTMN             Stop making such jokes, they rnt fun
12:12 TheRedMood       Well that is true sir
12:12 TheRedMood       Have you ever finished a project?
12:12 CTMN             Yes
12:12 TheRedMood       Have you ever used pointers for something
12:12 TheRedMood       Please do show
12:12 CTMN             Yes
12:12 TheRedMood       Have you ever gotten creddited from somone in the community?
12:12 TheRedMood       Have you ever commited to an opensource project?
12:13 CTMN             No
12:13 CTMN             That would be a pro
12:13 TheRedMood       No
12:13 TheRedMood       Pro is living of being a programmer
12:13 TheRedMood       But tell me what pointers are then?
12:13 CTMN             They point to a variable
12:13 TheRedMood       That is technicly right
12:13 CTMN             Their value is an address
12:13 TheRedMood       But not the definition
12:13 TheRedMood       Good
12:14 TheRedMood       Why would you use them
12:14 TheRedMood       When did you use them?
12:14 CTMN             I used them because SDL needs pointers for almost every function
12:15 TheRedMood       So you have never used them because you didn't need to?
12:15 TheRedMood       Can you paste some code you have used
12:15 TheRedMood       ?
12:16 CTMN             SDL_FillRect(screen,&anyrect,SDL_MapRGB(screen->format,0,0,128));
12:16 TheRedMood       No
12:16 TheRedMood       An entier file :)
12:16 CTMN             No
12:16 TheRedMood       With comments and everything
12:16 TheRedMood       Why not?
12:16 CTMN             The code isnt done for reading
12:16 CTMN             I mean its hard to read
12:16 TheRedMood       Well you have commented it?
12:16 TheRedMood       ?
12:17 CTMN             No
12:17 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:17 TheRedMood       Well the just paste it anyway
12:17 TheRedMood       :)
12:17 CTMN             Too large
12:17 TheRedMood       How many lines?
12:17 CTMN             689 lines and 19755 chars
12:17 TheRedMood       Then you can uploade the file so i can see it
12:17 TheRedMood       that is not really much
12:18 CTMN             What for?
12:18 TheRedMood       So i can look at some good c++ code
12:18 TheRedMood       I need to get some more experience there
12:18 CTMN             Good?
12:18 TheRedMood       Yeah?
12:18 CTMN             Im not sure
12:18 TheRedMood       Well then you can learn
12:18 TheRedMood       And I can laern
12:18 CTMN             If its good to read
12:18 TheRedMood       learn*
12:18 TheRedMood       So we all win :D
12:19 TheRedMood       A tip
12:19 TheRedMood       Comment code while you write it
12:19 TheRedMood       ;)
12:19 CTMN             I know what I write, so I dont need to comment it
12:20 TheRedMood       Um
12:20 TheRedMood       CTMN
12:20 TheRedMood       Can you join #crunchbang
12:20 TheRedMood       And resay that sentance
12:20 CTMN             WHat is that?
12:20 CTMN             ???
12:25 TheRedMood       ::9
12:25 CTMN             I know that other people wont understand what I write, because my code will never be open source
12:26 TheRedMood       Ohh!
12:26 TheRedMood       myhrlin: Did you get that?
12:26 TheRedMood       :D
12:26 myhrlin          sounds like a business plan
12:26 CTMN             My code of my current project I mean
12:26 CTMN             of course
12:26 TheRedMood       This guy is going to have a hard time finding a job
12:26 TheRedMood       Since the employer won't be able to read his code :o
12:26 CTMN             Its only that one project!
12:27 myhrlin          TheRedMood: maybe this isn't as bad as you made it sound? ;)
12:27 TheRedMood       myhrlin: That is because he is backing down
12:27 CTMN             Im having other COMMENTED stuff lying there
12:27 TheRedMood       myhrlin: I can paste the logg from earlier
12:27 myhrlin          mission accomprished
12:27 TheRedMood       No
12:27 TheRedMood       He will retaliate
12:27 TheRedMood       We need to do it harder :D
12:27 TheRedMood       Can you paste us some of the code?
12:27 TheRedMood       Like 200 lines?
12:27 myhrlin          nah, live and let live
12:27 TheRedMood       myhrlin: :( Never was that with me x3
12:28 CTMN             Not of this one >:-)
12:28 TheRedMood       Because?
12:28 CTMN             It wont be opensource
12:28 TheRedMood       You said it where proffesinal code
12:28 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:28 CTMN             NO
12:28 TheRedMood       So you are making a game just for yourself?
12:28 alazare619       boom
12:28 TheRedMood       alazare619: name is CTMN
12:28 TheRedMood       He has started backing down
12:28 CTMN             No
12:28 TheRedMood       But I am making sure the attitude is being crushed.
12:29 TheRedMood       He is now gone over to not pasting the code
12:29 TheRedMood       under the excuse that it is not going to be open source
12:29 TheRedMood       yet it is not commented
12:29 CTMN             Not the code of that one project
12:29 TheRedMood       He also says that it is his first real project
12:29 CTMN             Only that one
12:29 TheRedMood       And that he is not a beginner in c++
12:29 TheRedMood       Or newb as he putt it
12:29 alazare619       he said newb hhuh
12:29 alazare619       must be a pro hacker
12:29 TheRedMood       I find it odd that he won't prove us wrong with some code
12:29 TheRedMood       Yeah
12:29 alazare619       whois CTMN
12:30 TheRedMood       O damn
12:30 CTMN             U wont find out much
12:30 TheRedMood       My computer got aids from doing that
12:30 TheRedMood       :(
12:30 alazare619       hmm
12:30 copiga           when i was a professional i commented, even if the entire program was a bunch of buttons and an if...
12:30 TheRedMood       Well he is to good for that
12:30 CTMN             -.-
12:30 copiga           D:
12:30 CTMN             I didnt mean that
12:30 myhrlin          it's obviously considered good practice to comment code, but if the person chooses not to then there's not much to do about it
12:30 TheRedMood       copiga: We are stearing at a whole other leage here.
12:31 TheRedMood       myhrlin: We are here to correct and have fun
12:31 TheRedMood       :D
12:31 copiga           TheRedMood: eh?
12:31 CTMN             The thing is what u r goin to correct
12:31 TheRedMood       copiga: myhrlin is takign the other side
12:31 TheRedMood       your bad habit
12:31 TheRedMood       1. Not commenting code
12:31 TheRedMood       2. Acting like you are better than others
12:31 TheRedMood       3. Not open sourcing code
12:31 TheRedMood       :D
12:31 myhrlin          TheRedMood: I'm not taking sides
12:32 CTMN             2. Isnt right
12:32 TheRedMood       It certanly is
12:32 myhrlin          I personally like commenting code, but if someone else doesn't then either I choose to figure out what's going on in the code and comment it myself, or I leave it alone
12:32 CTMN             1 and 3 only for that one thing
12:32 TheRedMood       nope
12:32 TheRedMood       2. is there too
12:32 CTMN             Its only one project, the others r commented
12:32 TheRedMood       You are starting to sound like haylo
12:32 TheRedMood       then you paste those then?
12:33 CTMN             Theyr not commented in English
12:33 TheRedMood       Well we can loook at the code can't we?
12:33 CTMN             I will try to translate it
12:33 alazare619       webchat
12:33 alazare619       troll must be troll
12:33 TheRedMood       ?
12:33 TheRedMood       ohh
12:33 TheRedMood       Ofcourse x3
12:34 alazare619       WHOIS information for CTMN:
12:34 alazare619       Name: p5DD35CDB.dip.t-dialin.net/93.211.92.219
12:34 alazare619       Connected from: 5dd35cdb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.211.92.219
12:34 alazare619       Currently on: #minetest
12:34 alazare619       Connected to: rowling.freenode.net (Corvallis, OR, USA)
12:34 CTMN             Im not living in USA as u may have noticed
12:34 alazare619       yea
12:34 alazare619       deutch
12:34 TheRedMood       Well, you are using webcat
12:34 TheRedMood       heyho :D
12:34 TheRedMood       I just love ip registers :D
12:34 alazare619       ran a tracer an nmap
12:34 TheRedMood       You just have to love nmap right?
12:35 TheRedMood       How can ther be so much juice in one tool?
12:35 * alazare619     <3 nmap
12:35 TheRedMood       Hey wei2912_
12:35 wei2912_         ...
12:35 TheRedMood       CTMN decided to go full pro
12:35 CTMN             NO I DIDNT
12:35 wei2912_         warning
12:35 TheRedMood       So we are correcting him :)
12:35 wei2912_         #crunchbang flaming going on
12:36 TheRedMood       No
12:36 TheRedMood       We are just 4 people
12:36 TheRedMood       haylo have not joined yet
12:36 TheRedMood       He is going to rip this guy to pieces
12:36 TheRedMood       :o
12:36 wei2912_         they might come hee
12:36 wei2912_         here*
12:36 wei2912_         oh wait, #!
12:36 wei2912_         not #crunchbang, sry
12:36 CTMN             For not commenting one prog?
12:36 TheRedMood       for being a lier
12:36 TheRedMood       Liar*
12:36 myhrlin          isn't it enough to say "yes, commenting code is a good standard practice but not required"?
12:37 TheRedMood       Not for haylo
12:37 wei2912_         wth
12:37 wei2912_         #crunchbang flaming?
12:37 CTMN             Im commenting my code
12:37 copiga           is theredmood part of the FOSS mafia?
12:37 TheRedMood       Then please just paste some code?
12:37 CTMN             How many times do I have to say that?
12:37 TheRedMood       No :D
12:37 CTMN             WHere?
12:37 TheRedMood       I am to simple minded for that
12:37 wei2912_         copiga: yes?
12:37 TheRedMood       pastie
12:37 alazare619       is this minecraft server mods?
12:37 TheRedMood       pastie.org
12:37 TheRedMood       No
12:37 TheRedMood       It is for minetest
12:37 TheRedMood       A game opensource
12:38 TheRedMood       c++
12:38 TheRedMood       Nativly on linux and windows
12:38 alazare619       is it a minecraft clone?
12:38 wei2912_         lua plugins
12:38 TheRedMood       Ohh yes it is
12:38 TheRedMood       But it is much more correct than minecraft
12:38 TheRedMood       It is free ;)
12:38 alazare619       hmm
12:38 TheRedMood       minetest.net
12:38 TheRedMood       It is not like the others
12:38 alazare619       wouldnt that be copy right breaking *eye shift*
12:38 TheRedMood       O noe
12:39 TheRedMood       There is no code that is the same
12:39 TheRedMood       Notch can't copyright a game genre
12:39 alazare619       but cloning the game regardless of the code not being "reverse enginerd" is still breaking copyright
12:39 alazare619       *points to apple vs samsung*
12:39 TheRedMood       ohh
12:39 TheRedMood       It is writtend from scratch
12:39 wei2912_         no, minetest does not aim to be minecraft
12:39 wei2912_         it is inspired by
12:39 alazare619       so was samsungs "siri"
12:40 TheRedMood       alazare619: Well apple is stupid
12:40 alazare619       but the idea was copyrighted :P
12:40 TheRedMood       Don't we all agree on that?
12:40 TheRedMood       CTMN: Do you think apple is stupid?
12:40 TheRedMood       :o
12:40 alazare619       for the most part yes
12:40 wei2912_         sigh
12:40 alazare619       i do like there look of imacs tho
12:40 TheRedMood       yeah
12:40 copiga           they make pretty stuff but overcharge and be too loud...
12:40 alazare619       fucking imacs are sexy
12:40 TheRedMood       But they are wrongly informing people
12:40 TheRedMood       NakedFury: Hello
12:40 * copiga         has a power mac G4
12:40 TheRedMood       me too
12:40 TheRedMood       the fan is like a yet x3
12:41 alazare619       so anyways
12:41 alazare619       code!
12:41 TheRedMood       NakedFury: We are correcting CTMN
12:41 alazare619       must see code
12:41 TheRedMood       Yes
12:41 TheRedMood       Paste it
12:41 TheRedMood       Now CTMN
12:41 alazare619       git or GIT THE FUCK OUT
12:41 TheRedMood       Well no
12:41 * alazare619     see what i did there :P
12:41 TheRedMood       That would give him a excuse to not do it
12:41 * TheRedMood     see what you did there :D
12:41 TheRedMood       well
12:42 alazare619       must resist urge to post chan on my darknet
12:42 TheRedMood       I think He ran in fear :(
12:42 alazare619       must...resist....urge
12:42 TheRedMood       What is darknet?
12:42 TheRedMood       :o
12:42 * alazare619     waves hand there is no darknet
12:42 * alazare619     these are not the questions you are wanting to ask
12:42 TheRedMood       Oh
12:42 TheRedMood       But I just want to know what a darknet is :o
12:42 TheRedMood       Let me google it
12:42 alazare619       !google darknet
12:43 alazare619       damnit jovo
12:43 alazare619       get in this channel
12:43 * alazare619     Slaps Jovo
12:44 TheRedMood       Um
12:44 TheRedMood       But can you just tell me what it is?
12:44 TheRedMood       okey people
12:44 TheRedMood       CTMN backed down
12:44 TheRedMood       He is beaten
12:44 CTMN             What?
12:44 TheRedMood       Lets burn the corpse and lets....
12:44 TheRedMood       Ohh!
12:44 TheRedMood       you are back
12:44 TheRedMood       Now paste some code :D
12:44 CTMN             Im pasting
12:44 TheRedMood       post link
12:44 TheRedMood       IT must be easy
12:44 TheRedMood       just go to pastie.org
12:45 TheRedMood       alazare619: false rturn singal
12:45 alazare619       huh?
12:45 TheRedMood       We must stay for a while and look after him
12:45 CTMN             http://codepad.org/a4xcohQQ
12:45 CTMN             here
12:45 alazare619       shit bro im about to get off work
12:45 alazare619       had a long night at the noc dealing with the blades :(
12:45 CTMN             Oh wait
12:45 CTMN             No
12:45 TheRedMood       blades?
12:46 TheRedMood       Btw what is darknet
12:46 copiga           whats mxdst? mass x distance?
12:46 TheRedMood       can you please tell me just what it is?
12:46 TheRedMood       Don't know let me try to google it
12:46 CTMN             No
12:46 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:46 CTMN             U wont get anything
12:46 TheRedMood       See that boys
12:46 TheRedMood       He said he was pasting
12:46 TheRedMood       And he just pulled out
12:46 CTMN             The prog is more about maths
12:46 TheRedMood       Seems like who can't prove it
12:46 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:46 TheRedMood       But we have plenty of those here
12:46 TheRedMood       :D
12:47 TheRedMood       Just paste it
12:47 TheRedMood       What are you afraid of?
12:47 TheRedMood       :o
12:47 TheRedMood       wei2912: he is now refusing to paste
12:47 TheRedMood       saying that the program is to much about math
12:47 TheRedMood       So we won't understand it
12:47 alazare619       TheRedMood: darknet is like a subnetwork on the internet 1 ip into a network or swarm that nothing can actually access but everythign can
12:47 wei2912          pls visit https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
12:47 wei2912          and stop flaming
12:47 alazare619       with a darknet you can have an entire irc network or websites that arent accessable by a ip address
12:47 alazare619       unless your in the darknet yourself
12:48 TheRedMood       Ohh.
12:48 TheRedMood       So that means that you wanted to post it there?
12:48 wei2912          this is #minetest not #crunchbang
12:48 copiga           isnt that deep web though?
12:48 CTMN             Yes
12:48 TheRedMood       wei2912: be quite
12:48 TheRedMood       wei2912: When was the last tiem minetest was activly mentioned here?
12:49 CTMN             Before I joined
12:49 TheRedMood       okey
12:49 TheRedMood       Well then
12:49 TheRedMood       Just paste it
12:49 alazare619       deep web is darknet copiga
12:49 CTMN             http://codepad.org/6YIYruxq
12:49 alazare619       or eep site is bad darknet
12:49 TheRedMood       there guys
12:49 TheRedMood       Lets see it :D
12:49 alazare619       but darknet isnt bad by nature
12:49 alazare619       some just abuse it
12:50 wei2912          TheRedMood: i mentioned it
12:50 wei2912          u mentioned it
12:50 alazare619       #minetest
12:50 alazare619       the new #cb hangout
12:50 TheRedMood       10 lines?
12:50 wei2912          thus i assume it is mentiones.
12:50 TheRedMood       10 lines?
12:50 TheRedMood       Are that you project?
12:50 CTMN             Without the I/O stuff
12:50 TheRedMood       Then paste that too then
12:50 CTMN             No
12:50 TheRedMood       thoise 10 lines could be from every where
12:50 TheRedMood       Why not?
12:50 wei2912          sigh
12:50 TheRedMood       You obviously can post it
12:50 TheRedMood       So why not?
12:51 TheRedMood       Because you did not write that code?
12:51 CTMN             Ok if u wantr
12:51 TheRedMood       let me just google those lines
12:51 wei2912          can you all chng?
12:51 wei2912          chng your hideout to #centos
12:51 TheRedMood       And see if i find some tutorial sites
12:51 TheRedMood       Ohh sorry
12:51 TheRedMood       I am just trying to fidn the truth here
12:51 wei2912          thank you very much.
12:51 TheRedMood       We are moving on when where done,miss :D
12:52 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:52 TheRedMood       He is not pasting
12:52 TheRedMood       Means he is googleing
12:52 TheRedMood       to find some basic c++ io
12:52 TheRedMood       :o
12:52 TheRedMood       He is smarter than I thought
12:52 wei2912          you can hang out at #linux-tutorials irc.spotchat.org for my channel
12:52 wei2912          pls. go. thanks.
12:52 alazare619       rofl re raid on #centos again ! :P
12:52 TheRedMood       O noe
12:53 TheRedMood       We are goign to stay hre
12:53 TheRedMood       Until we get some code from CTMN :D
12:53 wei2912          he wont give it
12:53 wei2912          ill give it
12:53 wei2912          https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
12:53 alazare619       he stole the code basically and is trying to rework it it seems
12:54 alazare619       and then is trying to close source the project
12:54 CTMN             http://codepad.org/W25whKst
12:54 CTMN             No
12:54 CTMN             Its not legal to steal code
12:54 wei2912          now go to my channel. thanks.
12:54 TheRedMood       Ohh
12:54 TheRedMood       That is just 19 lines
12:54 wei2912          more fun stuff there
12:55 TheRedMood       You said that you had more projects
12:55 TheRedMood       Can we get a more inclusive code
12:55 TheRedMood       The one you are working on is about 689 lines
12:55 TheRedMood       So like 200 lines of your code will sufficate
12:55 TheRedMood       :D
12:55 wei2912          TheRedMood: he has java projects too
12:55 wei2912          https://github.com/wei2912/JavaBot
12:56 CTMN             I dont have anything which is about 200 lines
12:56 TheRedMood       That is yours
12:56 wei2912          he is a collaborator
12:56 TheRedMood       Well then paste the current one
12:56 TheRedMood       nope
12:56 TheRedMood       That is your code
12:56 wei2912          damn
12:56 TheRedMood       And it is going to be reviewd by me later today :D
12:56 copiga           my code is bad but here:https://bitbucket.org/copiga
12:56 TheRedMood       I have not forgotten
12:56 alazare619       i really need to find a use for this 32 core blade :(
12:56 TheRedMood       What is a blade?
12:56 alazare619       blade server
12:56 TheRedMood       Ohh wait O_O
12:56 * TheRedMood     takes blade and attacks CTMN with it
12:57 TheRedMood       Die traitor :D
12:57 wei2912          sry ops, couldnt stop them
12:57 * CTMN           takes his gun out and shoots TheRedMood
12:57 TheRedMood       Wait
12:57 CTMN             -.-
12:57 TheRedMood       Shoulden't you worrie about a gun licence?
12:57 TheRedMood       Are you trained to weaer it?
12:57 TheRedMood       Is the design stolen by someone?
12:57 wei2912          just go to my channel and leave this be
12:57 CTMN             XD
12:57 TheRedMood       the bullets are they copyrighted?
12:57 TheRedMood       Because open source is so bad
12:58 CTMN             more XD
12:58 CTMN             He open source is great
12:58 TheRedMood       your idea of everything being restricted must be very good
12:58 CTMN             I hate copyright
12:58 TheRedMood       So then paste the code
12:58 TheRedMood       you said you had 689 lines
12:58 TheRedMood       Just paste that then
12:58 CTMN             U only want to see my code
12:58 TheRedMood       Yeah :D
12:58 wei2912          tableflip!
12:58 TheRedMood       Or we want to see it :D
12:58 TheRedMood       alazare619: Do you want to see his code?
12:59 CTMN             Not really
12:59 TheRedMood       He is making a game
12:59 CTMN             Only u
12:59 TheRedMood       So then why don't you show me?
12:59 TheRedMood       What is the problem?
12:59 CTMN             That u could copy it
12:59 CTMN             Why not?
12:59 TheRedMood       you said you hated copyright
12:59 CTMN             Yes
12:59 TheRedMood       then why do you worrie that I will copy it?
12:59 TheRedMood       :o
12:59 CTMN             It hasnt it yet
12:59 TheRedMood       ?
13:00 TheRedMood       I don't understand that sentence
13:00 CTMN             It isnt under the copyright license
13:00 TheRedMood       say it again in a more simple terms
13:00 TheRedMood       Then there is no problem :D
13:00 CTMN             The problem is that u could copy it
13:00 wei2912          stop
13:00 TheRedMood       And that is the thought behind opensource
13:00 TheRedMood       Sharing
13:00 TheRedMood       :D
13:01 TheRedMood       Do you got a problem with that?
13:01 CTMN             I wont share it but my next big thing will be open source
13:01 TheRedMood       ohh
13:01 TheRedMood       So this is goign to be closed source
13:01 TheRedMood       So you do like copyright
13:01 CTMN             No
13:01 wei2912          VanessaE: sfan5 pls...
13:01 CTMN             Only this one will be
13:01 TheRedMood       Ohh
13:01 CTMN             The next ones will be open source
13:01 TheRedMood       So you really lied then
13:02 CTMN             With what?
13:02 TheRedMood       That you don't like copyright
13:02 TheRedMood       you have no reason
13:02 CTMN             For what?
13:02 CTMN             For hating it?
13:02 TheRedMood       for copy righting the code
13:02 CTMN             Then u must be joking
13:02 TheRedMood       So why won't u share it?
13:03 CTMN             Because its my first big project
13:04 wei2912          there
13:04 CTMN             And let me work noe
13:04 CTMN             *now
13:04 wei2912          sigh
13:04 wei2912          i wish i had op
13:05 TheRedMood       Ohh
13:05 TheRedMood       And therfor you can't share it=?
13:06 CTMN             I will share my next thing
13:06 TheRedMood       Ohh
13:06 TheRedMood       But not this one?
13:06 teh_             what is going on here
13:06 CTMN             No
13:06 TheRedMood       Hello
13:06 TheRedMood       Well
13:06 CTMN             Hi
13:06 teh_             what is minetest anyway
13:06 TheRedMood       CTMN is saying
13:06 CTMN             Hes interested in my code
13:06 TheRedMood       That he is a c++ programmer
13:06 teh_             i can haz ops ?
13:06 TheRedMood       And that he loves opensource
13:06 CTMN             Am I not?
13:06 TheRedMood       and hates copyright
13:06 CTMN             Do I not?
13:07 wei2912          teh_: minetest is a minecraft inspired game
13:07 TheRedMood       this is a much longer fude
13:07 TheRedMood       But the most reasnt thing
13:07 TheRedMood       is that he pretty much got facekicked
13:07 TheRedMood       by me and some guys from #crunchbang
13:07 wei2912          CTMN: go to my channel and argue there
13:07 TheRedMood       for being an asshole
13:07 wei2912          CTMN: it is more fun
13:07 CTMN             U was the asshole
13:07 TheRedMood       and now I ask to get a look at his source
13:07 TheRedMood       But he says no
13:07 TheRedMood       He says that he is goign to share the next big thing
13:07 CTMN             U started everything because u wanted to see my code
13:08 CTMN             Only because of that
13:08 TheRedMood       Without givingin a explaination on why he won't share this
13:08 TheRedMood       Do you think that is a bit wierd?
13:08 TheRedMood       :o
13:08 wei2912          TheRedMood: he haz code.
13:09 wei2912          loads.
13:09 TheRedMood       yeah
13:09 CTMN             Dont u think that u dont have to see the code of everybody?
13:09 TheRedMood       So please then shear it
13:09 TheRedMood       :D
13:09 cosarara97       What doesn't he want to share?
13:09 TheRedMood       He gives no reason
13:09 wei2912          cosarara97: they are flaming here
13:09 TheRedMood       cosarara97: This started with him being all high and mighty
13:09 TheRedMood       Flaming?
13:09 CTMN             No
13:09 TheRedMood       I am having a argument with him
13:09 TheRedMood       Is that bad?
13:09 CTMN             He wanted to see my code
13:09 TheRedMood       cosarara97: you ask why he won't share any code
13:09 wei2912          cosarara97: a raid from #crunchbang
13:09 TheRedMood       A raid?
13:09 TheRedMood       No
13:10 cosarara97       I didn't ask that
13:10 TheRedMood       Those guys came because I need help to attack him
13:10 cosarara97       I asked what code you are talking about
13:10 TheRedMood       He is making a game
13:10 wei2912          cosarara97: they raided #centos the other time
13:10 CTMN             Because he cant attack me alone
13:10 TheRedMood       And he said he was not a newb at c++
13:10 CTMN             My code
13:10 TheRedMood       And i need to learn more c++
13:10 CTMN             U NOT
13:10 TheRedMood       So i wanted him to paste some code
13:10 TheRedMood       And he basiclly started backing down
13:10 CTMN             I didnt say that!!!
13:10 TheRedMood       the secound 2 more people joined
13:11 CTMN             So stop lying
13:11 TheRedMood       And now i just want to know why he don't want to share the code
13:11 cosarara97       hey
13:11 TheRedMood       Since he loves open source
13:11 cosarara97       let he explain his version first
13:11 TheRedMood       And hates copyright
13:11 TheRedMood       okey :)
13:11 TheRedMood       I have a log of it if you want
13:11 CTMN             I said I m not a noob
13:11 wei2912          CTMN: go on...
13:11 TheRedMood       ...
13:12 CTMN             Then he wanted to see my stuff
13:12 * TheRedMood     sits down on a chair
13:12 wei2912          TheRedMood: silence!
13:12 * TheRedMood     looks confused ad wei2912
13:12 CTMN             Then he asked me to join another channel
13:12 wei2912          They came from #crunchbang to here
13:12 cosarara97       and you went to crunchbang - is that a distro?
13:12 CTMN             He quoted what I said about commenting code
13:13 TheRedMood       It is sir
13:13 TheRedMood       A very good one
13:13 CTMN             Then I went back
13:13 TheRedMood       wei2912: SILENCE!
13:13 TheRedMood       :o
13:13 CTMN             And he wanted to see all my code
13:13 CTMN             I gave the code of one small program
13:13 CTMN             ANd he wanted more
13:14 CTMN             And started to suck because I dont want to share more
13:14 TheRedMood       Is it my turn now?
13:15 CTMN             Yes
13:15 TheRedMood       oeky :D
13:15 TheRedMood       cosarara97: how much of the log do you want pasted?
13:15 cosarara97       all of it
13:15 TheRedMood       okey
13:15 TheRedMood       let me connect with a clienter where I can do that
13:15 wei2912          sigh
13:16 TheRedMood       There
13:16 TheRedMood       Okey well let me start pasting everythign he said
13:16 TheRedMood       Want me to paste it in parts?
13:16 cosarara97       put it on pastebin
13:16 TheRedMood       Like one block at a time
13:16 TheRedMood       yeah i know
13:17 cosarara97       blocks is fine
13:18 TheRedMood       http://pastie.org/5073045
13:18 TheRedMood       This is the start
13:19 TheRedMood       I didn't like the way he said that he was not a noob
13:19 TheRedMood       So i decided to test him
13:19 CTMN             A noob is someone who doesnt
13:20 CTMN             know anything
13:20 cosarara97       ok
13:20 TheRedMood       we are moving on
13:20 wei2912          CTMN: OOP should be used. AOP too
13:20 TheRedMood       I need to take a break now
13:20 CTMN             I know
13:20 TheRedMood       Can you give me 5 min?
13:21 CTMN             I wrote "except I dont use much OOP"
13:21 cosarara97       I'm also writing a game in C++, you know?
13:21 CTMN             No
13:22 cosarara97       I use OOP a lot, though
13:22 cosarara97       SDL as well
13:23 TheRedMood       okey
13:23 TheRedMood       Well I am continuing
13:23 cosarara97       ok
13:23 TheRedMood       Doing this by hand so a bit slow
13:23 CTMN             So continue
13:23 wei2912          TheRedMood: just post in one chunk
13:23 cosarara97       yeah
13:24 TheRedMood       http://pastie.org/5073086
13:24 TheRedMood       Here we see that I am getting irritated
13:24 TheRedMood       And the inital feude over why he is not willing to give up a file starts
13:24 TheRedMood       I went into another channel and said that they should join me
13:25 TheRedMood       Since maybe that would make it easier
13:25 TheRedMood       To correct hui
13:25 TheRedMood       okey
13:25 TheRedMood       Will try to paste the rest in on chunk
13:28 TheRedMood       Here
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < TheRedMood> So i wanted him to paste some code
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < CTMN> U NOT
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < TheRedMood> And he basiclly started backing down
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < CTMN> I didnt say that!!!
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < TheRedMood> the secound 2 more people joined
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < CTMN> So stop lying
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < TheRedMood> And now i just want to know why he don't want to share the code
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < TheRedMood> Since he loves open source
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < cosarara97> hey
13:28 TheRedMood       15:15 < cosarara97> let he explain his version first
13:28 TheRedMood       15:16 < TheRedMood> And hates copyright
13:28 TheRedMood       15:16 < TheRedMood> okey :)
13:28 TheRedMood       15:16 < TheRedMood> I have a log of it if you want
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16 < CTMN> I said I m not a noob
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16 < wei2912> CTMN: go on...
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16 < TheRedMood> ...
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16 < CTMN> Then he wanted to see my stuff
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16  * TheRedMood sits down on a chair
13:29 TheRedMood       15:16 < wei2912> TheRedMood: silence!
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17  * TheRedMood looks confused ad wei2912
13:29 cosarara97       yeah, yeah, I know that part
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < CTMN> Then he asked me to join another channel
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < wei2912> They came from #crunchbang to here
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < cosarara97> and you went to crunchbang - is that a distro?
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < CTMN> He quoted what I said about commenting code
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < TheRedMood> It is sir
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 -!- hmmmm [~hmmmmmmm@pool-72-79-161-8.sctnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #minetest
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < TheRedMood> A very good one
13:29 TheRedMood       15:17 < CTMN> Then I went back
13:29 TheRedMood       15:18 < TheRedMood> wei2912: SILENCE!
13:29 TheRedMood       15:18 < TheRedMood> :o
13:29 TheRedMood       15:18 < CTMN> And he wanted to see all my code
13:29 TheRedMood       15:18 < CTMN> I gave the code of one small program
13:29 TheRedMood       15:18 < CTMN> ANd he wanted more
13:29 TheRedMood       15:19 < CTMN> And started to suck because I dont want to share more
13:29 TheRedMood       15:19 < TheRedMood> Is it my turn now?
13:29 TheRedMood       15:19 < CTMN> Yes
13:29 TheRedMood       15:19 < TheRedMood> oeky :D
13:30 TheRedMood       15:19 < TheRedMood> cosarara97: how much of the log do you want pasted?
13:30 TheRedMood       15:20 < cosarara97> all of it
13:30 TheRedMood       15:20 < TheRedMood> okey
13:30 TheRedMood       15:20 < TheRedMood> let me connect with a clienter where I can do that
13:30 TheRedMood       15:20 < wei2912> sigh
13:30 TheRedMood       NO!
13:30 TheRedMood       Nono
13:30 TheRedMood       http://pastie.org/5073105
13:30 TheRedMood       There
13:30 TheRedMood       Sorry!
13:30 CTMN             Do u know what u r pasting?
13:30 TheRedMood       Sorry so much
13:30 cosarara97       lol
13:30 TheRedMood       I pasted the wrong thing
13:30 TheRedMood       Going to get kicked for flooding now :(
13:30 TheRedMood       Well cosarara97 did you get the link?
13:30 TheRedMood       Atleast?
13:30 TheRedMood       http://pastie.org/5073105
13:30 TheRedMood       Here
13:30 TheRedMood       This is the full logg
13:30 wei2912          ???
13:31 TheRedMood       I think miss/sir found something amusing :D
13:34 TheRedMood       cosarara97: Done reading yet?
13:35 TheRedMood       cosarara97: Maybe not it was quite the long read
13:35 TheRedMood       THere is a lot of usless chitchatter there
13:35 TheRedMood       But I included the whole thing
13:35 TheRedMood       So it woulden't look like it was eddited
13:35 TheRedMood       If you can crossreference it with VanessaE later
13:35 TheRedMood       or OldCoder
13:35 TheRedMood       Then that would also be nice :D
13:37 TheRedMood       Another one bites the dust :D
13:38 TheRedMood       CTMN: Well can I get an answer to the question?
13:38 TheRedMood       Why won't you share it?
13:38 CTMN             Because I already share some code
13:38 TheRedMood       nope
13:39 TheRedMood       That is 20 lines
13:39 TheRedMood       that is not good enough
13:39 CTMN             Yes
13:39 TheRedMood       It could be code from any place
13:39 TheRedMood       Nope
13:39 TheRedMood       I can share the code from some advanced project too
13:39 TheRedMood       And it would look like it was mine
13:39 TheRedMood       But if you paste something like 200 lines
13:39 TheRedMood       And it is game related
13:39 TheRedMood       Cheating is kind of hard
13:40 TheRedMood       So please tell me why you won't share it
13:40 CTMN             Because there isnt much to see
13:40 CTMN             Because u could steal it
13:40 TheRedMood       Well, that is nota good reason
13:40 TheRedMood       Well you said you liked open source
13:40 cosarara97       done reading
13:40 TheRedMood       so there will be no stealing
13:40 TheRedMood       okey
13:41 CTMN             Its not under any license
13:41 cosarara97       haven't looked at the code, though
13:41 TheRedMood       It is 20 lines
13:41 CTMN             U can be sure that its real c++ maths code
13:41 TheRedMood       Most of the peopel from #crunchbang agreed that he pulled it from the internet and slightly modified it
13:41 TheRedMood       yeah
13:41 TheRedMood       But that doesn't make it your code
13:41 TheRedMood       cosarara97: the thign I want an answer to now
13:42 TheRedMood       Is why he won't share any code of his current project
13:42 TheRedMood       Since he clearly states in the log
13:42 CTMN             Dont u think that I could copy code from the internet?
13:42 TheRedMood       That he loves opensource and hates copyright
13:42 cosarara97       1 - TheRedMood: You are bad
13:42 TheRedMood       I kinda am :)
13:42 CTMN             continue
13:42 cosarara97       2 - CTMN: If you don't like copyright,
13:42 CTMN             what then?
13:42 cosarara97       ...
13:42 cosarara97       why would you want to use it?
13:42 CTMN             continuie
13:43 CTMN             I wont use it
13:43 TheRedMood       he is afraid i would steal it
13:43 CTMN             I dont want to use
13:43 CTMN             it
13:43 cosarara97       you just want to keep the program for yourself?
13:43 CTMN             Yes
13:43 TheRedMood       This is where my logic breaks down
13:43 TheRedMood       He loves open source and hates copyright
13:43 cosarara97       Ok, then why are you writing it?
13:43 TheRedMood       And now he won't share
13:43 CTMN             Look @ yesterday ;-)
13:43 CTMN             To have a game
13:44 cosarara97       Well, maybe other people would like to have that game
13:44 CTMN             Not really
13:44 cosarara97       Why is that?
13:44 TheRedMood       I would like to have it
13:44 TheRedMood       :D
13:44 TheRedMood       dwarf fortress is driving me mad
13:44 CTMN             If u wanna have a compiled version, just play Minicraft
13:44 cosarara97       ?
13:44 CTMN             Its almost the same as dwarf fortress and Minicraft
13:44 cosarara97       It's just an exact clone?
13:44 CTMN             Yes
13:45 TheRedMood       So you wrote minicraft?
13:45 CTMN             In C++ and SDL
13:45 TheRedMood       Or did you pull the code from it?
13:45 CTMN             No
13:45 CTMN             Its written in Java!
13:45 TheRedMood       No
13:45 CTMN             Notch would never program c++
13:45 TheRedMood       your code is not minicraft
13:45 NakedFury        omg you guys keep on arguing over this crap. ctmn doesnt want to share the code so be it.
13:45 TheRedMood       No
13:45 CTMN             Yes
13:46 myhrlin          yes
13:46 CTMN             Just play Minicraft
13:46 myhrlin          ish
13:46 TheRedMood       I want either him to admit he is breaking logic
13:46 CTMN             If u want
13:46 TheRedMood       or he can explain why there will be no paste
13:46 TheRedMood       He has never touched that subject
13:46 CTMN             Because I wanna keep it for me
13:46 wei2912          CTMN: if you did
13:46 wei2912          why wont you share it?
13:46 TheRedMood       Even when the person we chose for a judge ( cosarara97 ) asked him about it
13:46 TheRedMood       CTMN: And then why do you like open source
13:47 TheRedMood       CTMN: you are breaking one of the biggest rules.
13:47 CTMN             No
13:47 cosarara97       hey, TheRedMood, don't say he has not written it without evidence, ok?
13:47 TheRedMood       CTMN: Open source is built upon sharing code
13:47 TheRedMood       Okey
13:47 CTMN             Its open source, but only for me
13:47 TheRedMood       cosarara97: Find it. Find the reason he won't share code that doesn't break with his own logic
13:47 wei2912          can we get one thing settle
13:47 CTMN             I also wont share it compiled
13:47 cosarara97       He doesn't want to release the code for a reason
13:48 TheRedMood       yes
13:48 cosarara97       I think that reason can be another one
13:48 TheRedMood       And that is what i don't get
13:48 cosarara97       and simpler
13:48 TheRedMood       Oh es?
13:48 TheRedMood       :o
13:48 TheRedMood       What would that be
13:48 myhrlin          if CTMN isn't advertising the code in a way that suggests his project is meant to be shared and distributed for others to have then he's fine
13:48 cosarara97       He is ashamed of the code, because it is bad :) (everybody has written bad code)
13:48 cosarara97       And he won't release it closed source, of course
13:48 TheRedMood       Well
13:49 TheRedMood       Then why diden't he say that?
13:49 cosarara97       because that would be ugly
13:49 cosarara97       hey
13:49 TheRedMood       hey?
13:49 cosarara97       maybe it's another thing
13:49 TheRedMood       Well, then we still have no answer
13:49 cosarara97       It's just what I thought
13:49 wei2912          minitest was written by PilzAdam at http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2589
13:49 wei2912          minicraft*
13:50 TheRedMood       ( I thought that from the very start, but since he says no I am goign trough with this because I am tierd of people thinking that just making up stuff is going to be good enough=
13:50 cosarara97       Now I have to do some homework and go to the English academy, I'll stop typing
13:50 wei2912          wait it
13:50 wei2912          is minitest
13:50 CTMN             He wrote MiniTEST
13:50 TheRedMood       Well
13:50 CTMN             I meant miniCRAFZ
13:50 CTMN             Minicraft
13:50 TheRedMood       So we still have no explantaion
13:50 TheRedMood       cosarara97:  Can we continue this later?
13:50 CTMN             Yes
13:50 TheRedMood       I need to go aswell
13:51 CTMN             Maybe I will answer it in future
13:51 TheRedMood       CTMN: I am keeping the logg so we can review it later :D
13:51 TheRedMood       No
13:51 wei2912          TheRedMood: can you join my channel also? thanks
13:51 TheRedMood       you will adress it when I get home
13:51 TheRedMood       I need to get on the biuss
13:51 TheRedMood       Now I need to go
13:51 TheRedMood       See ya
13:51 CTMN             I mean in far future
13:51 CTMN             bb
13:51 TheRedMood       ctmn
13:51 CTMN             What?
13:51 TheRedMood       I must say that if i am one thing
13:51 TheRedMood       It is disappointed in you
13:51 CTMN             ?
13:52 TheRedMood       And your weakness in telling that you are not a master in something
13:52 TheRedMood       We were born with weaknesses for a reason
13:52 wei2912          CTMN: we are trying to help you
13:52 TheRedMood       So hiding them is just going to get your face kicked in
13:52 TheRedMood       See ya all :D
13:52 wei2912          CTMN: to clean your code
13:52 cosarara97       omg, you wanted to make fun of his code
13:52 CTMN             u r not false
13:52 wei2912          cosarara97: no, he said it wasnt clean
13:52 CTMN             Really?
13:53 wei2912          cosarara97: if you scanned the loga
13:53 CTMN             He just didnt understand what it was for
13:54 CTMN             It should get the distance between 2 points and use it to get
13:54 CTMN             other maths stuff
13:54 wei2912          CTMN: cant you let us join? :(
13:55 wei2912          dont be like microsoft
13:55 CTMN             What?
13:55 CTMN             join where?
13:55 wei2912          join your project
13:55 CTMN             I will let u
13:55 wei2912          thanks!
13:55 CTMN             My current code is the base for another thing
13:56 CTMN             When its ready I will maybe let some people join it
13:56 wei2912          thanks
13:56 myhrlin          problem solved
13:57 OldCoder         Back
13:57 wei2912          myhrlin: after many lines
13:57 NakedFury        finally no more harrasing ctmn?
13:57 CTMN             No
13:58 CTMN             OldCoder, something is not right with the new water textures
13:58 CTMN             Who did make them?
13:59 OldCoder         Real Bad Angel I think
13:59 OldCoder         If you mean animated
13:59 OldCoder         NakedFury, I have answer regarding last night's problem
13:59 CTMN             NakedFury: he was just mean
14:00 OldCoder         NakedFury, If a world contains a heavy mesecons mod such as a counter and CPU is used up the world will lag badly
14:00 CTMN             OldCoder, the server seems to be slower since it was shut down
14:00 NakedFury        did the world had a mesecon contraption?
14:01 CTMN             It doesnt just have lags, it even has data loss!
14:01 OldCoder         CTMN, which world; 30001? No changes have been made to world but one statue. However mesecons have been updated.
14:01 OldCoder         CTMN, that is an important point
14:01 OldCoder         Data is not lost. However it lags.
14:01 CTMN             No
14:01 OldCoder         We must determine what has changed
14:02 OldCoder         CTMN, explain
14:02 CTMN             I dug a bit under the MrTux letters and I repaired the power line
14:03 CTMN             After I exited and joined again, it was like it had been before I joined the first time
14:04 CTMN             The blocks that I mined appeared again(after some time too), although I had the stuff in my inventory
14:04 OldCoder         Just once I assume
14:04 OldCoder         Did this happen more than once?
14:04 CTMN             Yes
14:04 OldCoder         It is the lag issue
14:05 OldCoder         VanessaE states it is a case where things will return after a few minutes
14:05 CTMN             If theres a lag, it appears again after some time
14:05 OldCoder         Yes
14:05 CTMN             Like u wrote
14:05 OldCoder         Describe this issue to VanessaE
14:05 NakedFury        gonna try the server
14:05 CTMN             But it didnt appear again
14:05 OldCoder         We can remove mods
14:05 OldCoder         CTMN, when did this happen?
14:06 CTMN             When I joined the first time after the server was down
14:06 CTMN             And there r also some mesecons piston arms at (6.5|y|8.6)
14:06 CTMN             The ones that cant be broken
14:06 OldCoder         CTMN, see if it happens again. I was replacing the world at that time.
14:07 CTMN             Ok
14:07 CTMN             The new water textures make it really dark and I dont see anything under water, but thats the problem of RBA
14:08 OldCoder         CTMN, speak with him. He will know. He said somebody else did that.
14:08 OldCoder         The dark part I think
14:08 CTMN             Ok
14:08 OldCoder         CTMN, is there animation?
14:08 CTMN             Yes
14:08 OldCoder         Is it good or bad?
14:08 CTMN             It looks nice
14:08 OldCoder         Then do this...
14:09 OldCoder         Speak to RBA and others. Decide: (a) keep. (b) remove. (c) fix dark.
14:09 OldCoder         Choose one of those.
14:09 OldCoder
14:09 CTMN             c
14:09 OldCoder         I mean...
14:09 CTMN             I know
14:09 CTMN             I know what to do
14:09 OldCoder         Settle this with others. I cannot edit the water myself.
14:09 CTMN             for me
14:09 OldCoder         Have fun
14:09 CTMN             k
14:10 OldCoder         Tell me what the group decides and what to update then
14:10 CTMN             k I know
14:10 CTMN             U didnt cut our village out because I couldnt say u how to do it?
14:12 OldCoder         CTMN, I have not edited the world yet. WorldEdit is broken.
14:12 CTMN             really?
14:12 OldCoder         CTMN, I did not want you to wait. So I put things back as they were. The only change is to add the statue.
14:12 OldCoder         Which was there before. Leave it alone.
14:12 OldCoder
14:13 OldCoder         Yes really
14:13 CTMN             K
14:13 OldCoder         There is a bug in WorldEdit
14:13 OldCoder         khonk* says he will report it
14:13 CTMN             Which we both discovered?
14:13 OldCoder         No
14:13 OldCoder         khonk* found it
14:13 OldCoder         I think it was him
14:14 CTMN             Ok
14:16 CTMN             But u could still remove stairs+
14:17 CTMN             A weird thing is also that I saw dry shrubs moving around
14:18 OldCoder         Huh?
14:18 CTMN             Really
14:18 PilzAdam         Hello everyone!
14:18 CTMN             I didnt use drugs or drink
14:18 OldCoder         CTMN, No regarding stairs+ because it is apparently widely used
14:18 CTMN             Hi
14:18 OldCoder         CTMN, I believe you
14:18 OldCoder         PilzAdam, did you make water textures for RBA?
14:18 CTMN             Thx
14:19 CTMN             And my house door is always half open half closed, I can even make a screenshot and upload it if I knew where to
14:19 OldCoder         CTMN, you can upload screenshots to:
14:19 PilzAdam         OldCoder, RBA did them for me
14:19 OldCoder         http://imgur.com/
14:20 OldCoder         PilzAdam, he said the water is too dark I think
14:20 OldCoder         CTMN just said the same thing
14:20 CTMN             thx
14:20 OldCoder         CTMN, I recommend register there. But you can just note the delete links instead
14:24 CTMN             http://i.imgur.com/hCz0i.png
14:24 CTMN             Sry that I had taken it while pausing
14:24 CTMN             But it can be seen
14:26 CTMN             I think there r too many mods
14:26 CTMN             Not because of the bugs
14:28 CTMN             U had not much time to fit the MrTux letters in I guess?
14:33 CTMN             oh gtg bb
14:33 CTMN             I delete the image, but I will maybe upload it again
14:36 FreeFull         CTMN: Door half-closed is usually lag
14:45 TheRedMoodWin    BACK :D
14:46 TheRedMoodWin    How are the gentlemen and gentleladies :D
14:50 TheRedMoodWin    Seems like my guys have left
15:04 * Jordach        says helo in 52 different languages
15:04 PilzAdam         hi
15:04 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach How are you
15:04 Jordach          alright
15:07 iqualfragile     hi
15:07 iqualfragile     uhm… redmond
15:08 iqualfragile     windows?
15:11 RealBadAngel     hi
15:12 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, i got ready fix to the "dark water" problem
15:13 OldCoder         Hi
15:22 Jordach          alright, some mc bastard stole my idea http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1241536-16x131tiny-pixels-a-continuation/
15:26 ruskie           lo, so wanted to try minetest but with not much luck... any server I enter never connects... I'm using the 0.4.3 build from the ppa on a debian testing system
15:27 NakedFury        try minetest.org 30000 to 30011
15:27 Jordach          or europe.minetest.orh
15:27 Jordach          org
15:28 NakedFury        then tell us if you still cant connect
15:28 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, i just got back from work, will send you fixed water in a few minutes
15:29 OldCoder         sure
15:29 RealBadAngel     ruskie, are you polish?
15:29 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach, just remember that it is not stealing but sharing :D
15:29 ruskie           RealBadAngel, no
15:30 ruskie           NakedFury, can connect there
15:30 RealBadAngel     ruskie is a polish word. to describe russians
15:30 ruskie           RealBadAngel, I'm aware
15:30 ruskie           RealBadAngel, and I believe in a few other languages as well
15:30 TheRedMoodWin    VanessaE Have you gotten some sleep
15:32 ruskie           NakedFury, now it's downloading media so yay
15:36 TheRedMoodWin    Yeah
15:36 cosarara97       hi
15:36 NakedFury        downloading media is a good sign
15:37 NakedFury        the first time it will take a long time but after that it will be fast
15:37 ruskie           yeah
15:38 ruskie           now I seem to need to roll my own since the build I had didn't like the jpeg lib version
15:42 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, http://realbadangel.pl/animated_water.zip
15:42 RealBadAngel     its fixed version
15:42 RealBadAngel     rolled by to original visibility under water
15:43 RealBadAngel     *back
15:43 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, all right
15:43 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, will update today
15:44 RealBadAngel     i was thinkin bout marble today and got a few new ideas
15:44 OldCoder         k
15:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, test Technic please
15:44 RealBadAngel     to enhance it a little bit with other kinds of stone
15:45 OldCoder         So I can decide to update
15:45 RealBadAngel     i know the parameters to the world generation
15:45 RealBadAngel     so i can avoid lags
15:45 RealBadAngel     i will just add new ones at different heights
15:47 OldCoder         Calinou, wb
15:47 RealBadAngel     hi calinou
15:47 Calinou          hi
15:47 cosarara97       hi
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    WAIT
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    Wait wait wait
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    RealBadAngel you made techinc?
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    :o
15:48 RealBadAngel     yes
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    Huge applause from me man!
15:48 RealBadAngel     thx
15:48 TheRedMoodWin    The is a really nice piece of code :D
15:49 RealBadAngel     could be better ;)
15:49 TheRedMoodWin    I used to make calculators and such in minecraft
15:49 TheRedMoodWin    with redstone
15:49 TheRedMoodWin    So i think i found another mod who was redstone ish
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    Does that integrate with this ore?
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    or*
15:50 RealBadAngel     i hated redstone, liked redpower
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    ?
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    Why did you hate redstone
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    :o
15:50 RealBadAngel     with mesecons? already started to use mesecons (redstone) with my machines
15:50 TheRedMoodWin    Yeah
15:51 TheRedMoodWin    That was the name
15:51 TheRedMoodWin    Nice!
15:51 TheRedMoodWin    If you ever want some code cleaning I can lend a hand
15:51 RealBadAngel     because redpower2 wireing and logic, not to mention 6502 computer is light years beyond redstone
15:51 TheRedMoodWin    I am kind of usless for anything else x3
15:52 RealBadAngel     and mesecons are closer to redpower than the redstone
15:53 RealBadAngel     like some1 wrote what redstone is: huge valley contains incredible redstone circuit to just open the door
15:53 TheRedMoodWin    I have to disagree with you
15:53 RealBadAngel     it was sarcastic
15:53 RealBadAngel     but its very real
15:54 RealBadAngel     simple circuits made with redstone are just huge
15:54 * Jordach        's left eye went blurry
15:54 TheRedMoodWin    ohh
15:54 TheRedMoodWin    Yeah
15:54 TheRedMoodWin    I agree wit hthat
15:55 RealBadAngel     while latches, all logic gates, timers etc
15:55 RealBadAngel     in redpower are single blocks
15:55 TheRedMoodWin    But I think that you just need to scale what you are building
15:55 * Jordach        is off to play Forza 3
15:55 RealBadAngel     not to mention wireing
15:55 RealBadAngel     that can go every direction
15:55 NakedFury        redstone contraption are just not worth it at all
15:55 TheRedMoodWin    they so are :D
15:55 RealBadAngel     or be bundled, so you can hava a cable with 16 wires in it
15:55 NakedFury        they so are not
15:56 TheRedMoodWin    We can talk about this all day
15:56 TheRedMoodWin    It is like python versus java
15:56 NakedFury        everything needs a huge stupid waste of space
15:56 TheRedMoodWin    Or C vs java
15:56 Calinou          lolpytho
15:56 Calinou          +n
15:56 RealBadAngel     not comparable simply
15:56 Calinou          * Jordach is off to play Forza 3
15:56 cosarara97       Calinou
15:56 TheRedMoodWin    Well it is
15:56 Calinou          better play supertuxkart
15:56 Calinou          8D
15:56 RealBadAngel     stone age to electronic age
15:56 cosarara97       Do you know why people spawn trapped in a box in your server?
15:56 Calinou          cosarara97: hi, I know about server, yes it is down
15:56 cosarara97       It's not
15:56 Calinou          ah, that's pretty much normal, fixed spawn point is not set
15:57 cosarara97       It is set, I think
15:57 cosarara97       But it's set to a jail
15:57 Calinou          going to set it again and I'll see
15:57 RealBadAngel     calinou? i asked somethin in priv
15:57 Calinou          O_o no... there's no jail on my server
15:57 TheRedMoodWin    Well
15:57 cosarara97       well, not a jail
15:57 cosarara97       but a box
15:57 TheRedMoodWin    I think that it is much more down to the basics
15:57 TheRedMoodWin    And more fun
15:57 TheRedMoodWin    to use redstone
15:57 cosarara97       that you cannot break without a tool
15:57 TheRedMoodWin    because it really is challanging
15:58 TheRedMoodWin    But i also love cables
15:58 TheRedMoodWin    So I just think both are awesome
15:59 Jordach          Calinou, what?
16:04 Calinou          :P
16:06 RealBadAngel     calinou, have you tried to generate ores with perlin?
16:09 Calinou          why?
16:09 Calinou          I'm not attempting to recreate minecraft's slowness
16:09 Calinou          :P
16:09 RealBadAngel     u think this way is slow?
16:10 RealBadAngel     im tryin to add more kinds of stone. added marble already, it looks nice
16:10 RealBadAngel     but have it everywhere, would like it to be found in certain areas
16:11 NakedFury        a dwarf fortress type of generation would be cool.
16:11 RealBadAngel     whats the type?
16:11 NakedFury        well it has many type of rocks
16:12 RealBadAngel     will take a look on its code then
16:12 NakedFury        Sedimentary
16:12 NakedFury        Igneous intrusive and extrusive
16:12 NakedFury        and metamorphic
16:12 RealBadAngel     i dont want to go so far
16:12 NakedFury        in total: 24 different
16:13 NakedFury        not counting ores
16:13 RealBadAngel     just a few different types like marble, granite
16:13 RealBadAngel     maybe basalt
16:13 RealBadAngel     thats all
16:14 RealBadAngel     with basalt i would like to make same thing as eloraam did in redpower
16:14 NakedFury        Chalk, Chert, Claystone, Conglomerate, Dolomite, Limestone, Mudstone, Rock Salt, sandstone, shale, siltstone, diorite, gabbro, granite, andesite, basalt, dacite, obsidian, rhyolite, gneiss, marble, phylite, quartzite, schist, slate
16:14 RealBadAngel     volcanoes
16:14 NakedFury        http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Stone
16:15 RealBadAngel     so it seems like dwarves go rather into hardcore mining way
16:15 NakedFury        yes
16:15 NakedFury        well see you later. got a test today
16:15 RealBadAngel     i dont want to go so far
16:16 NakedFury        yeah 24 different textures is extreme
16:16 RealBadAngel     a few ores, few kind of stone, a volcano
16:16 RealBadAngel     thats all i want to make with worldgen
16:17 Calinou          perlin should be used correctly, else Mr. Perlin can slap you
16:17 Calinou          for small stuff like ores it is not needed
16:17 RealBadAngel     im not goin to use it with ores
16:17 RealBadAngel     marble, granite deposits
16:18 RealBadAngel     lemme show you
16:18 RealBadAngel     http://realbadangel.pl/marble2.png
16:18 RealBadAngel     http://realbadangel.pl/marble2.png
16:18 RealBadAngel     http://realbadangel.pl/marble.png
16:20 RealBadAngel     does it deserve to use Perlin's noise? :)
16:22 FreeFull         Which one? He made at least two
16:22 RealBadAngel     i guess that implemented in MT
16:22 FreeFull         There is the classic perlin noise, and then there is simplex noise
16:31 TheRedMoodWin    Um
16:31 TheRedMoodWin    My pc is actully running minetest to fast
16:31 TheRedMoodWin    So it is going in slowmotion
16:32 TheRedMoodWin    It is kind of annoying
16:38 Jordach          PilzAdam tried mesecons http://ompldr.org/vZndubw/pilzpower.zip
16:44 Jordach          PilzAdam, pilzpower's stackover flow might be from the recursive ness
16:48 * Jordach        signs in into deviantart for a liturature post
17:17 Jordach          hey NekoGloop
17:17 NekoGloop        Shush.
17:17 NekoGloop        I'm hiding :3
17:20 TheRedMoodWin    Wait
17:20 TheRedMoodWin    wait wait wait wait...
17:20 TheRedMoodWin    I smell
17:20 * TheRedMoodWin  smells around the channel
17:20 TheRedMoodWin    It smells of
17:20 TheRedMoodWin    NEKO :D
17:21 NekoGloop        Shut up already
17:21 TheRedMoodWin    NekoGloop How are you!
17:21 TheRedMoodWin    :D
17:21 TheRedMoodWin    Ohh
17:21 RealBadAngel     hi neko
17:21 RealBadAngel     some1 has answered in the topic 10 months dead
17:22 TheRedMoodWin    Why is neko mad at me :o
17:22 RealBadAngel     some folks has speed of retired chees players
17:22 TheRedMoodWin    What do you mean?
17:22 TheRedMoodWin    hey hey hey
17:23 TheRedMoodWin    Chess players are kewl people :D
17:23 RealBadAngel     http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=626
17:23 RealBadAngel     look at the dates
17:33 RealBadAngel     http://realbadangel.pl/cave.png
17:33 RealBadAngel     marble and granite meets in one cave
17:34 CTMN             RealBadAngel, u did make the animated water textures, right?
17:35 RealBadAngel     tetures yes, code not. anyway made it brighter again. oldcoder has already fixed version
17:35 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, ?
17:35 CTMN             So he told u about this?
17:35 OldCoder         CTMN, I think he saw scrollback
17:35 OldCoder         CTMN, Test Technic
17:35 OldCoder         On EU
17:35 RealBadAngel     exacatly
17:36 RealBadAngel     oldcoder, im adding now granite, see screenshot
17:36 OldCoder         k
17:36 NekoGloop        Do we make marble bricks?
17:36 RealBadAngel     already done
17:36 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, indicate when ready to test. After update please test. No new features then. Must decide whether to update.
17:36 NekoGloop        Do we make granite sculptures?
17:37 RealBadAngel     dunno
17:37 CTMN             Just make granite blocks
17:37 RealBadAngel     hold on
17:38 CTMN             Or another mod which uses nodeboxes can have them
17:38 CTMN             Just some ideas
17:39 NekoGloop        Like, ahem, 3dforniture? ;)
17:39 CTMN             I thought about something like stairs+
17:39 NekoGloop        Oh whatever.
17:39 CTMN             Or node deploy
17:39 CTMN             3d forniture isnt the best example for nodeboxes
17:40 NekoGloop        Stairsplus needs to be able to have other mods externally call its registering call.
17:40 RealBadAngel     same cave in HD: http://realbadangel.pl/cave_128x.png
17:40 NakedFury        im back from a succesful 100% test
17:40 OldCoder         NakedFury, previous problem is related to high CPU use. I don't have it yet in general. But Mesecon devices can cause it.
17:41 NekoGloop        NakedFury: Did you have anything in mind for gloopore uses?
17:41 NakedFury        ok. I need to make a battery because when you downgraded technic to check causes it becaome a unknown block
17:42 NakedFury        NekoGloop: I always find insane amounts of  desert blue ore so a use for that would be great
17:42 NekoGloop        Tooltips exist for a reason :P
17:42 NekoGloop        It's called AKALIN
17:42 NakedFury        yes but once I exit game I forget it all
17:42 NekoGloop        Heh.
17:43 NakedFury        also I need to ask
17:43 NakedFury        the red ore, is it good food or evil food?
17:43 CTMN             Me too with the colored ores
17:43 NakedFury        there are times when I have 1 heart left and a few red ores and I am afraid of dying and eating it
17:43 CTMN             Eating ores?
17:43 OldCoder         Is MT TCP or UDP for port 30000 ?
17:44 NekoGloop        The red ore is kalite. It tastes like chicken :3
17:44 RealBadAngel     udp i believe
17:44 OldCoder         k
17:44 CTMN             OldCoder, maybe its useful if I say that MT servers seem not to answer to pings
17:44 NakedFury        Kalite could be used with farming mods for food growth or similar uses
17:45 NekoGloop        Yes it could.
17:45 OldCoder         CTMN, ?
17:45 OldCoder         CTMN, do you mean literal pings?
17:45 OldCoder         I have not enabled that on my servers
17:45 NakedFury        also the green ore is very resistant, I think more than mese pick
17:45 CTMN             NekoGloop: as a recipe for fertilizer
17:45 RealBadAngel     for marble bricks i need sensible 16x texture
17:45 OldCoder         CTMN, if you mean the standard MT server live test that does work
17:45 NekoGloop        I was thinking of coding a farming mod because pilzadams' is just horrible. Graphics and otherwise.
17:45 NekoGloop        NakedFury: It's supposed to be.
17:46 NekoGloop        Arol tools are very resistant, but dig slowly.
17:46 NakedFury        yeah noticed that
17:46 NekoGloop        What we need is for swords to take damage when used.
17:46 RealBadAngel     i do have 128x ready: http://realbadangel.pl/technic_marble_bricks.png
17:46 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, test Technic when you can
17:46 NakedFury        ok this anime got funny. after a kick to the balls the character lost on of them
17:47 NekoGloop        Doesnt make sense that i can use the same sword infinetly
17:47 NakedFury        one of them
17:47 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, i need to just add 16x texture for marble bricks
17:47 RealBadAngel     then im ready with the update
17:47 OldCoder         k
17:48 RealBadAngel     that whats on the EU server is already well tested
17:48 cosarara97       It doesn't make sense that tools disappear when they break
17:48 CTMN             Why?
17:48 NekoGloop        Tools should disappear when broken.
17:48 NakedFury        cosarara97: I would prefer for a broken tool icon to remain
17:48 NekoGloop        Because they're... Broken.
17:48 RealBadAngel     and bye bye
17:49 NekoGloop        RealBadAngel: Wut?
17:49 RealBadAngel     broken and bye bye
17:49 NekoGloop        Yeah?
17:49 cosarara97       Broken, but still there
17:49 NekoGloop        Duh?
17:49 NekoGloop        Broken is broken. Gone. Bye bye.
17:49 RealBadAngel     lol
17:50 RealBadAngel     now he got it ;)
17:50 NakedFury        broken tools can bring reparation crafting
17:50 NakedFury        recycling
17:50 CTMN             It should turn into sticks
17:50 NekoGloop        NakedFury: Ever put two of the same tool in the craftgrid?
17:50 RealBadAngel     with Tool workshop you can repair your tools
17:50 NekoGloop        That too.
17:51 NakedFury        we can recycle broken tools for a return of 1 material
17:53 RealBadAngel     NakedFury, seen already the new look of batbox?
17:53 NakedFury        yes
17:53 NakedFury        you are a pain. its gonna take time to craft myself a new doku texture
17:53 NakedFury        :D
17:53 RealBadAngel     hehehe
17:53 CTMN             Or craft it with some materials to restore ir
17:53 Calinou          <OldCoder> Is MT TCP or UDP for port 30000 ?
17:53 Calinou          UDP
17:53 Calinou          TCP sucks for games :)
17:54 RealBadAngel     use doku for Redpower2
17:54 Calinou          that's why minecraft uses it
17:54 Calinou          I mean realtime ones
17:54 RealBadAngel     if there is one
17:54 OldCoder         Calinou, k
17:54 NakedFury        omg apparently minecraft will have animated ores and shit
17:54 RealBadAngel     there shall be texture for redpower Battery Box
17:54 NakedFury        I found lots of animated textures for dokucraft on their main forums, even a 64 frames torches
17:55 CTMN             Is notch stealing ur code?
17:55 NakedFury        in any case jeb not notch
17:55 cosarara97       jeb?
17:55 NakedFury        the developer
17:55 RealBadAngel     NakedFury, http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/pre-release-of-dokucraft-technic-tekkit-support-released-download-at-op.7453/
17:55 CTMN             Jeb?
17:55 NakedFury        notch is not in minecraft stuff anymore. he is now in 10c something
17:56 NakedFury        already got that RBA
17:56 NakedFury        but their battery textures suck balls
17:56 CTMN             Oh I know
17:57 NakedFury        the hardest thing for me is painting grass and leafs because minecraft uses a gradiant thingy for them so originaly they are grey
17:59 OldCoder         Most Minetest build instructions are highly outdated or incomplete. Here are build instructions for CentOS
17:59 OldCoder         http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/mtbuildcentos.html
17:59 OldCoder
17:59 OldCoder         More distros will be added in the future
18:05 RealBadAngel     ok, ive made marble bricks texture
18:05 ThisisNotLandMin cool story not silene
18:05 ThisisNotLandMin silence**
18:10 cosarara97       Who is this? :)
18:10 Jordach          sfan5, op
18:10 Jordach          ThisisNotLandMin, good try BITCH
18:10 RealBadAngel     http://realbadangel.pl/marble_wall.png
18:11 cornernote       lol
18:11 RealBadAngel     marble bricks wall and floor made of granite
18:11 RealBadAngel     how do you find it?
18:13 Jordach          @#minetest blank LandMine like the US Banks ignore the money crisis
18:14 RealBadAngel     same in HD: http://realbadangel.pl/wallHD.png
18:15 TheRedMoodWin    X3
18:15 cosarara97       I don't like that HD pickaxe
18:15 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach i like the little power ranger move you and sfan5 had
18:15 RealBadAngel     lol, i wasnt askin for pickaxe :)
18:15 TheRedMoodWin    Jave27 x3
18:16 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach x3
18:16 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach And i will ignore him
18:17 cosarara97       Would it be difficult to make minetest render high resolution tools better?
18:18 RealBadAngel     propably not, but that means C++, not LUA
18:19 cosarara97       I know
18:22 Jordach          RealBadAngel, use semi flatten in gimp
18:22 Jordach          removes part alpha channels, like 40%
18:22 Jordach          but not 100 % or 0 %
18:22 RealBadAngel     what for?
18:22 Jordach          making the rtool appear right
18:22 Jordach          VanessaE uses this method
18:24 RealBadAngel     i will try
18:24 RealBadAngel     meanwhile same wall again, 16x textures, bilinear filtering: http://realbadangel.pl/wall_bilinear.png
18:24 RealBadAngel     looks neat imho
18:25 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach I think my joke was pretty funny :(
18:25 TheRedMoodWin    Jordach what is wrong with the joke?
18:29 RealBadAngel     OldCoder, update to technic is ready
18:30 OldCoder         k
18:30 OldCoder         Busy 5 minutes but thx
19:01 Jordach          oh god; technically incorrect http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=48020#p48020
19:04 Jordach          VanessaE, present?
19:04 VanessaE         barely
19:04 Jordach          aws
19:04 Jordach          aw
19:04 VanessaE         'sup?
19:04 Jordach          * Jordach has kicked ThisisNotLandMin from #minetest (ThisisNotLandMin)
19:04 VanessaE         I saw that in the backlog
19:04 Jordach          <Jordach> ThisisNotLandMin, good try BITCH
19:04 VanessaE         (just skimmed it today, tl;dr :-)
19:05 Jordach          we should have a auto voice system
19:05 Jordach          so admins can remove voice
19:06 VanessaE         maybe.  stuff like that is up to c55 (I don't have control of channel default settings like that)
19:06 * Jordach        checks gmail, sees one g+ notification
19:07 VanessaE         from me, responding to your friend request :-)
19:07 Jordach          :D
19:07 * Jordach        hates fb dut to cookie spies
19:08 * Jordach        then lets google chrome spy on me
19:08 VanessaE         all these damn random people always wanting to friend me, jeez...
19:08 VanessaE         ;)
19:08 Jordach          google is the iron giant of privacy compared to fb
19:09 Jordach          VanessaE, type into google " bacon number barack obama"
19:10 banlieue         error: your client version is not supported
19:10 banlieue         what should i do?
19:10 Jordach          update
19:10 Jordach          also depends on the server
19:10 VanessaE         banlieue: upgrade to the version the server in question is using.
19:11 VanessaE         Jordach: oh, 6 degrees of kevin bacon.  Surprised that is still going around.
19:11 Jordach          yep
19:11 VanessaE         banlieue: probably you need to fetch the latest version.
19:11 Jordach          Chuck Norris's Bacon number is 2
19:11 Jordach          i thought it would be Chuck Norris has no bacon number
19:12 VanessaE         HAH!  I don't have a bacon number :D
19:12 Jordach          my bacon search Jordach has 8 repos written in Lua, C, and C++. Follow their code on GitHub
19:13 Jordach          bacon number jordan snelling
19:13 Jordach          try it
19:14 VanessaE         nope.
19:15 VanessaE         no number, just the usual search results :-)
19:17 khonkhortisan    The stairs are backwards in the right-side-up house
19:18 khonkhortisan    So it was flipped both y and z.
19:19 VanessaE         weird
19:19 khonkhortisan    nope, all axes. y for upside-down, z for stairs, x for furnaces.
19:20 khonkhortisan    hey I can walk through the middle of the table on the first floor
19:21 VanessaE         yeah I know
19:21 VanessaE         I forgot to make those tabletops walkable (or not, whichever it is)
19:21 VanessaE         I'm gonna be converting them to nodeboxes soon though
19:23 khonkhortisan    the copy I sent back to you still has to be flipped xz.
19:24 VanessaE         oh that reminds me,
19:24 VanessaE         https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/buildings/worldedit/VanessaE_home1.we
19:24 VanessaE         https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/buildings/worldedit/VanessaE_home2.we
19:24 VanessaE         cornernote's 0.5 versions.
19:28 khonkhortisan    and those are missing the shingles
19:32 banlieue         i can't enter any server.. timeout or version problem
19:34 NakedFury        game version 0.4.3?
19:34 banlieue         i dont know
19:34 Jordach          m
19:34 Jordach          damn keyboard
19:35 NakedFury        open game and check upper left corner
19:35 banlieue         minetest (main menu)
19:38 banlieue         ?
19:38 NakedFury        yes
19:39 NakedFury        it should also appear on the window border up. minetest and versions number
19:39 banlieue         no
19:39 banlieue         i cant see
19:39 banlieue         only write minetest main menu
19:40 NakedFury        http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/ws7-t-o
19:40 banlieue         sorry i have not
19:40 NakedFury        then sorry I dont know how to check it
19:42 banlieue         what should i do? how can i update?
19:42 NakedFury        do you use linux or windows?
19:42 banlieue         linux
19:42 banlieue         ubuntu
19:43 NakedFury        if its windows: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1523
19:43 NakedFury        for ubuntu linux I dont know
19:44 TheRedMoodWin    VanessaE
19:44 TheRedMoodWin    look in msg
19:44 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, updating
19:45 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, EU is updated and restarting
19:45 OldCoder         Please test Technic
19:48 khonkhortisan    If you make a loop of wire and add a button and a microcontroller that's programmed sbi(C,A) you'll get power out of nowhere
19:54 banlieue         i found version: c55 0.3.1
20:02 TheRedMoodWin    okey
20:02 TheRedMoodWin    epic python coding quest
20:02 TheRedMoodWin    Begin
20:03 khonkhortisan    this is what it looks like when you merge multiple pull requests at the same time https://github.com/bas080/chess/network
20:03 TheRedMoodWin    Hahaha :D
20:07 Jordach          night all
20:16 TheRedMoodWin    See ya all :D
20:17 Muadtralk        greetings!
20:17 NekoGloop        Evenin
20:18 NakedFury        evening
20:21 Muadtralk        dang it no pilzadam
20:21 Muadtralk        i had some suggestions for his mob mod
20:21 NakedFury        summon him
20:21 NakedFury        call him 3 times and wait
20:21 iqualfragile     banlieue: go to http://minetest.net/download.php
20:22 iqualfragile     there you will find daily/unstable
20:22 banlieue         why not stable?
20:22 banlieue         :D
20:22 iqualfragile     because nobody actualy uses that
20:22 iqualfragile     so you wont be able to play on any server
20:23 banlieue         oke i use precise
20:23 iqualfragile     some bits of black magic later: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds
20:23 banlieue          12.04
20:23 iqualfragile     sudo apt-add-r<tab> ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
20:23 NekoGloop        You can play on any server as long as client protocols match
20:23 iqualfragile     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds
20:24 iqualfragile     yeah, but there were quite some changes from .3x to .4x, wernt there
20:24 NekoGloop        Yeah from 0.3.1 to 0.4.3, duh.
20:24 iqualfragile     thats what i said
20:25 NekoGloop        But 0.4.3 is stable one.
20:25 NekoGloop        So people -do- use the stable.
20:26 iqualfragile     yeah, but precice has 3.1
20:26 iqualfragile     banlieue: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
20:27 iqualfragile     oh, wait, no
20:27 iqualfragile     you first need to uninstall minetest if you had it installed
20:27 banlieue         yeah ok
20:27 iqualfragile     sudo apt-get remove minetest; sudo apt-get install minetestc55
20:27 iqualfragile     and then you are done
20:32 iqualfragile     vanessae: can you remove the spamming-bot-questions, please?
20:32 iqualfragile     or at least exclude me
20:33 NekoGloop        She cant
20:33 NekoGloop        Neither can celeron, i'm about 99% sure
20:33 iqualfragile     i promise that i wont pass or accedentialy publish my over 128 charakters long password wich i cant even remember myself
20:33 NekoGloop        XD
20:35 banlieue         oh yeah
20:35 banlieue         thanks iqualfragile
20:36 iqualfragile     if you had used a real os (mac/windows) you woud not have needed my help
20:36 NekoGloop        Mac isnt a real os
20:36 NekoGloop        Windows is the only real os
20:37 banlieue         np i love ubuntu and linux
20:37 banlieue         :D
20:37 NekoGloop        Ucraptu and shitnix arent real os's
20:37 iqualfragile     but there are allmost no games for it!
20:37 iqualfragile     and bad grapic-card-drivers
20:37 khonkhortisan    Windows is a lying os
20:37 iqualfragile     and its unstable
20:38 NekoGloop        There are a shitton of games for windows
20:38 NekoGloop        It's perfectly stable.
20:38 NekoGloop        And graphics card drivers? Just get a real graphics card.
20:38 iqualfragile     i was talking about linux
20:38 iqualfragile     idiot
20:38 NekoGloop        Oh right.
20:39 NekoGloop        Well then you're perfectly correct.
20:40 iqualfragile     and linux is so unsafe! there is no personal firewall and there is no virus-scann!
20:40 NekoGloop        Yup.
20:40 NekoGloop        'Course, i never use windows' firewall or virusscan
20:40 iqualfragile     and its open source wich basicly says that anybody could change my os! thats so horrible
20:47 Muadtralk        ouch i heard linux bashing coming from here
20:47 NekoGloop        Yes.
20:49 khonkhortisan    if only ghoststone transferred power
20:50 Muadtralk        haha! quickly someone put this in their minetest.conf "fov = 100"
20:50 Muadtralk        i didnt know this worked!
20:55 khonkhortisan    Cool! Now I feel like I'm playing tremulous!
20:55 khonkhortisan    fov = 100 + fast = dretch
20:56 khonkhortisan    I wonder what the max for that other game is
20:56 NekoGloop        Minecrap?
20:56 Muadtralk        110
20:56 Muadtralk        i tihnk
20:57 Muadtralk        i was running 180 fov
20:57 Muadtralk        on minetest it got rather trippy
20:58 khonkhortisan    360 ftw!
20:59 NekoGloop        Lol?
20:59 NekoGloop        fov does the same it does in mc?
21:00 khonkhortisan    I feel like a giant if I look down
21:01 Muadtralk        haha
21:01 iqualfragile     wait
21:01 iqualfragile     there is fov?
21:01 khonkhortisan    ~/.minetest/minetest.conf: "fov = 100"
21:01 iqualfragile     awsome
21:02 iqualfragile     echo "fov = 100" >> ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
21:02 khonkhortisan    180 is upside-down but 360 isn't
21:03 khonkhortisan    360 isn't actually 360 :(
21:04 iqualfragile     thats amazing
21:04 OldCoder         21:00:58: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(4/1): Receive(): Peer not found
21:04 OldCoder         I seem to be getting a lot of those FWIW
21:06 khonkhortisan    fov is a setting it would be nice to have in-game
21:07 NakedFury        all settings should be ingame not on ancient outside game files
21:07 iqualfragile     no, its buggy
21:08 NekoGloop        Like disabling clouds? That would be wonderful
21:10 Muadtralk        /set enable_clouds false
21:10 Muadtralk        i think yes?
21:10 Muadtralk        i forget if thats actually a setting
21:15 OldCoder         U.S. worlds going down to update and check into crashes
21:22 RealBadAngel     Oldcoder hold on
21:22 RealBadAngel     i was about to send you testing report :)
21:23 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, Do it
21:23 OldCoder         Rebuilding now
21:38 OldCoder         U.S. worlds restarted
21:38 OldCoder         hmm
21:38 OldCoder         that did not work
21:53 NakedFury        testing us world zero
21:56 OldCoder         NakedFury, Need to worldedit that region
21:57 NakedFury        unrepaireable?
21:57 RealBadAngel     its down again i think
21:58 OldCoder         NakedFury, not sure
21:58 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, checking
21:59 OldCoder         I don't see a crash
21:59 OldCoder         Or a debug file
21:59 OldCoder         World is running
21:59 RealBadAngel     so thats me just, im unable to play on it
21:59 OldCoder         Can you teleport or fly?
22:00 RealBadAngel     world doesnt load around me
22:00 RealBadAngel     lag is too big
22:00 RealBadAngel     cant play here
22:01 RealBadAngel     EU is the only option for me
22:02 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, I understand
22:02 OldCoder         I will update EU later
22:02 OldCoder         It is an odd situation
22:02 RealBadAngel     so i will test it tommorow then
22:02 OldCoder         I can't ATM but will do so soon
22:02 OldCoder         Wait
22:02 OldCoder         What is your schedule
22:02 RealBadAngel     its midnight here
22:03 RealBadAngel     at 5 am i have to wake up and go to work
22:03 RealBadAngel     so either now or tommorow
22:04 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, do not MT any longer!
22:04 OldCoder         Go to sleep!
22:04 OldCoder         ttyl
22:04 OldCoder         Could do now
22:04 OldCoder         But it is really too late
22:04 RealBadAngel     and i would like to test what ive done ;)
22:05 RealBadAngel     15 minutes doesnt make any difference
22:06 OldCoder         It would take 10 to update
22:06 OldCoder         I say go sleep
22:06 NakedFury        noooooooooooo that last disconnect from the server killed my LASER!!
22:06 OldCoder         ?
22:06 OldCoder         How?
22:06 NakedFury        no idea it banished!
22:06 OldCoder         NakedFury, the world crashed and I can't see why
22:06 OldCoder         I hope to debug these things
22:06 NakedFury        no log?
22:06 OldCoder         RealBadAngel, ty and night
22:06 OldCoder         NakedFury, None
22:06 OldCoder         Neither debug.txt
22:06 RealBadAngel     it went nuts a few days ago
22:06 OldCoder         Nor anything in main log
22:07 OldCoder         Yes
22:07 NakedFury        dammit its hard to help test when no logs happen
22:07 OldCoder         I can run in debugger
22:07 OldCoder         Folks I will be gone soon for a few hours though
22:07 RealBadAngel     with the hole at my base location
22:07 OldCoder         Can somebody
22:07 OldCoder         get me the SW and NE coords
22:07 OldCoder         for that?
22:07 OldCoder         I will worldedit it
22:07 NakedFury        ok ill try
22:11 NakedFury        ok first corner: (-16.7, 3.5, -16.2)
22:12 NakedFury        second corner: 15.6, 1.5, -32.8
22:12 NakedFury        there
22:12 OldCoder         NakedFury, ty
22:12 OldCoder         Will experiment later
22:12 OldCoder         for now
22:12 OldCoder         See if patterns to crashes
22:12 OldCoder         For those on 30011; same issue
22:26 M13              hello?
22:27 khonkhortisan    ¿hello
22:30 OldCoder         Hi
22:35 khonkhortisan    /time 4500
22:36 khonkhortisan    and /time 18500 are sunrise and sunset
22:46 NotTheLandMine   Jordach you mad bitch? hahahaha
22:53 khonkhortisan    haha I made a spiral in the sky and immediately the dirt turned into grass and grew trees
23:00 khonkhortisan    That's probably a bug, that dirt can turn into grass blocks at a time
23:02 OldCoder         I am seeing crashes on 30011 again. Sorry no diagnosis yet.
23:06 khonkhortisan    Hello NotTheLandMine
23:06 NotTheLandMine   hi khonkhortisan
23:26 hmmmm            lots of retarded OS fanboyism here.
23:26 hmmmm            i'm just going to let you know (you know who you are) that it's pretty immature.
23:28 NotTheLandMine_  stfu hmmm and say the name
23:28 NotTheLandMine_  hmmmm
23:30 iqualfragile     hmmmm what do you mean? i cant see any fanboyism
23:32 NotTheLandMine_  yeah get of my dick hmmm
23:32 NotTheLandMine_  hmmm^^^
23:32 khonkhortisan    lang
23:32 NotTheLandMine_  my bad
23:50 JangoFett154     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38
23:54 OldCoder         JangoFett154, I am gone for a few hours. If you play watch for crashes and report any patterns
23:54 OldCoder         That applies to others too BTW
23:54 JangoFett154     ok cool
23:54 OldCoder         We have two worlds with problems but everything is up ATM and we'll do what we can
23:54 OldCoder         ttyl
23:55 * OldCoder       nods
23:55 JangoFett154     ttyl
23:55 * OldCoder       is away
23:55 NotTheLandMine_  JangoFett154 wanna makeout?
23:55 JangoFett154     no
23:56 JangoFett154     get out of here kid, this is IRC not facebook
23:56 khonkhortisan    old people use this