IRC log for #minetest, 2012-09-03

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Time	Nick	Message
00:15	ecube	What does xfences do?
00:20	VanessaE	it draws fences using nodeboxes instead of the fencelike draw type.  mostly so they can connect to neighboring objects
00:20	ecube	Ah.
00:21	ecube	how does it work?
00:21	ecube	nvm that
00:21	VanessaE	not sure, I've only ever seen it in use on redcrab's server
00:21	ecube	Does it correct the collideboxes?
00:21	ecube	Like, does it make the collision box realisitc?
00:21	ecube	*realistic
00:22	VanessaE	I think so actually
00:22	VanessaE	by virtue of being made with nodeboxes
00:22	VanessaE	but it has a minor bug: you have to shift-jump to get over/onyo it
00:22	VanessaE	onto*
00:25	ecube	That's a nodebox bug, unfortunately
00:27	VanessaE	*nod* so I assumed
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00:51	* VanessaE	pokes NekoGloop with a cookie
00:52	NekoGloop	>.<
00:52	NekoGloop	gimme that
00:52	* NekoGloop	takes the cookie
00:52	* NekoGloop	eats it
00:52	VanessaE	nom :-)
00:52	NekoGloop	anyway, congrats on getting your mods merged to default
00:52	VanessaE	thanks :-)
00:52	* VanessaE	does a happy dance again
00:53	NekoGloop	lol
00:54	NekoGloop	now, its more reasonable to do my potions idea
00:54	VanessaE	yep!
00:54	NekoGloop	although that's still nigh on impossible
00:54	VanessaE	why?
00:55	NekoGloop	potions... there's not a good way to implement effects from lua
00:55	VanessaE	oh right
00:55	VanessaE	maybe c55 will add something for that
00:56	NekoGloop	lets keep our hopes up
00:57	NekoGloop	in the meantime... lets get gates figured out.
00:57	VanessaE	right
00:57	NekoGloop	I'm modding xdoors code
00:57	VanessaE	I think khon. is well on the way to that
00:57	VanessaE	oh those kind of gates
00:57	NekoGloop	oh?
00:57	NekoGloop	lol
00:57	NekoGloop	:D
00:58	VanessaE	I read "gates" as logic gates :-)
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00:58	NekoGloop	i need to shrink xdoors into gates
00:58	NekoGloop	ohai 2cool
00:58	VanessaE	evening 2cool
01:01	NekoGloop	VanessaE: mind helping me pick apart xdoors's nodeboxes? that's all i need to change :)
01:02	VanessaE	er...
01:02	VanessaE	um...
01:02	VanessaE	:)
01:02	VanessaE	*looks innocent*
01:03	NekoGloop	i just need some way to make xdoors look like gates.
01:03	VanessaE	with nodeboxes I have to do a lot of trial and error
01:04	NekoGloop	well i just want something that will connect to xfences properly basically.
01:04	NekoGloop	as far as closed gates go, they can just be a single nodebox as far as i care
01:05	NekoGloop	just want open ones to properly be two nodeboxes on either side of the node
01:05	VanessaE	eh
01:05	NekoGloop	as far as the wizardry making all this happen in the code, leave that up to me.
01:05	VanessaE	not having looked at xfences code or enough of gates to know the nodebox defs, I'm kinda not the right one to ask :-)
01:06	NekoGloop	:l
01:06	NekoGloop	ok
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01:19	VanessaE	evening keegan
01:19	VanessaE	get the ubuntu issue figured out?
01:20	Keegan1	no i just have linux mint
01:20	Keegan1	now
01:20	VanessaE	oh ok
01:20	NekoGloop	lets see... now i have gates (i think)
01:20	VanessaE	a current version of it?
01:20	Keegan1	when i install wine this thing appears n termnal
01:20	Keegan1	and i cant do anything
01:21	VanessaE	what thing?
01:21	NekoGloop	minetest is now loading... lets see if my gates work
01:21	Keegan1	this http://pastebin.com/FHQSksVT
01:21	VanessaE	<NekoGloop> "Some exception - FUCK YOU!!"
01:21	Keegan1	i cant get it off of there
01:22	VanessaE	Keegan1: hit tab and then enter.
01:22	VanessaE	tab will highlight the <Ok> and Enter will "click" it.
01:22	Keegan1	oh thanks
01:22	NekoGloop	VanessaE: no, it's "some exception: fuck off"
01:22	Keegan1	wow i thought it was stuck there
01:22	VanessaE	LOL!
01:23	NekoGloop	anyway, on the point
01:23	VanessaE	Keegan1: hehe no, that's a common hang-up.
01:23	NekoGloop	placing a gate crashes the game now :P
01:23	VanessaE	Keegan1: important:  always mumble to yourself "Fuck off" whenever you "agree" to a EULA like that one :-)
01:24	NekoGloop	dont suggest it, he'll do it
01:24	Keegan1	i di it anyways
01:24	Keegan1	do
01:25	VanessaE	it's an EULA, so mumbling "fuck you" or "fuck off" when you "agree" to it is always the right thing to do :-)
01:25	VanessaE	EULAs are stupid and the people who propose them should be shot :-)
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01:25	NekoGloop	ok gates is being retarded
01:26	NekoGloop	want to see the unedited code from xdoors that's being exceptionally stupid?
01:26	VanessaE	oh so appropriate.  "IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This Microsoft End-User License Agreement [...]" and "Gates" is being retarded
01:26	NekoGloop	er... i've got it
01:26	NekoGloop	LOL VanessaE
01:27	NekoGloop	would that be bill gates?
01:27	NekoGloop	:D
01:27	VanessaE	you can post it but I can't guarantee I'll be able to understand it :D
01:27	NekoGloop	no I figured it out
01:28	NekoGloop	i tried to perform a math function on a table
01:28	* NekoGloop	facepalm
01:29	NekoGloop	oh cool i just need 4 more items... let's see, how many variants of gates can i make...
01:29	VanessaE	heh
01:30	NekoGloop	i hate infinite sound glitches
01:32	NekoGloop	some exception: we hate you
01:33	NekoGloop	there's one good thing about the some exception error
01:34	NekoGloop	i have to restart minetest, and that allows me to free up whatever amount of space debug.txt is taking up
01:34	VanessaE	hhaha
01:34	NekoGloop	now, gates are currently nonfunctional, but dont glitch/crash
01:35	NekoGloop	ok now they crash
01:35	VanessaE	lol
01:35	leo_rockway	NekoGloop: why do you have to wait to restart to free up the space of debug.txt? o.0
01:35	NekoGloop	forgot a set of curly braces
01:35	NekoGloop	leo_rockway: "this file is in use, stop any programs that may be using it"
01:36	leo_rockway	oh, Windows?
01:36	leo_rockway	in *nix you can truncate the file
01:36	leo_rockway	(while it is still in use)
01:37	leo_rockway	I thought the same could be done in Windows.
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01:37	NekoGloop	nope
01:37	NekoGloop	then you dont crash any programs with the file open
01:38	VanessaE	bbl.  bedtime
01:40	NekoGloop	night vanessae
01:43	NekoGloop	... gates, y u no work?
01:48	NekoGloop	param2 is userdata? 0.o
01:50	NekoGloop	some exception my ass
01:52	NekoGloop	celeron55: can you explain to me what userdata is and how to get a number out of it? (e.g. param2)
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01:56	* khonkhortisan	slaps /you with a large trout
01:56	NekoGloop	cool
01:57	NekoGloop	can you help me with a fence gate?
01:57	NekoGloop	such a thing should prove trivial to someone who can understand mesecons :)
01:59	NekoGloop	khonkhortisan: can you help me with a fence gate?
02:00	NekoGloop	thexyz: you there?
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02:14	NekoGloop	anyone want to help me make fence gates?
02:15	Uberi	NekoGloop: like the gates mod by splizard?
02:16	Uberi	I think it's pretty much what you're looking for
02:16	NekoGloop	yes except working
02:16	NekoGloop	ever tried his mod on 0.4.2-rc1?
02:16	NekoGloop	crash whenever you place anything
02:17	Uberi	NekoGloop: I worked on Gates for a while, I'll take a look
02:17	NekoGloop	alright
02:17	Uberi	NekoGloop: mind giving the error?
02:17	NekoGloop	no error it just dont work
02:18	NekoGloop	hold on, pastebining right now
02:18	Uberi	thanks
02:19	NekoGloop	http://pastebin.com/AGfxREvU smack that in a folder called "gates", add a depends.txt with only default, and craft one like seen at the bottom of the code.
02:19	NekoGloop	obviously edited from xdoors
02:19	NekoGloop	(as seen at the top)
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02:21	NekoGloop	Uberi: do you see what doesnt work?
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02:24	NekoGloop	ok then
02:24	Uberi|Away	yep NekoGloop will investigate
02:24	NekoGloop	oh
02:24	NekoGloop	ok :)
02:30	NekoGloop	uberi|away: is it something impossibly stupid that i should have seen?
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02:50	NekoGloop	uberi|away: I've got a solution. Now i only need the visual part to work ;)
03:03	NekoGloop	well... these are being amazingly uncooperative
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03:23	Uberi	hi VanessaE!
03:23	Uberi	NekoGloop: what was the solution?
03:24	NekoGloop	use on_punch instead of xyz's roundabout method
03:24	NekoGloop	now i jsut need nodebox help
03:24	NekoGloop	just*
03:24	Uberi	thanks NekoGloop
03:24	NekoGloop	what?
03:25	Uberi	that was the problem
03:25	NekoGloop	sorry for making you waste your time on something as trivial as that. :P
03:25	Uberi	xgates? haven't seen that one yet
03:26	NekoGloop	well the "x" stuff means its xyz's mod
03:26	NekoGloop	although most of the code used is his, its not entirely his
03:27	Uberi	yeah xdoors seems to use some of zlp's code
03:27	NekoGloop	the code i sent you was already modded by me :)
03:27	Uberi	nice
03:27	NekoGloop	it had parts from xpanes in it
03:28	NekoGloop	(for the drawing, i needed some placeholder)
03:30	NekoGloop	now to make the things look a bit more gate-like
03:30	NekoGloop	er... actually... let's go to sleep :)
03:36	keegaan	good night
03:49	khonkhortisan	aw I missed Uberi
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07:36	goebbels	hey all
07:36	goebbels	are finnish song lyrics ok?
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08:13	RealBadAngel	hi
08:13	goebbels	HIø!
08:15	goebbels	RealBadAngel: why are all PL truckers thieves and bad guys?
08:16	goebbels	and the most importantly, unable to drive trucks
08:16	RealBadAngel	lol, i dont know personally any truck driver :P
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08:18	RealBadAngel	on the other hand i doubt you know all the polish drivers
08:18	goebbels	RealBadAngel: did you know that the Great Minetest Leader is a finnish nerd?
08:19	goebbels	and has long hair
08:19	RealBadAngel	so what?
08:19	goebbels	did you know that?
08:19	RealBadAngel	that he has long hair? nope
08:20	goebbels	ok
08:20	goebbels	now you know
08:20	goebbels	he's my neigbour
08:20	goebbels	+h
08:20	goebbels	now he's carrying out his 12 months long duty to the State
08:21	goebbels	so he can't fully focus on the game
08:22	goebbels	en
08:24	RealBadAngel	i feel enlightened then
08:25	RealBadAngel	btw some1 told you before, that your nick, name of the men responisble for killing milions, is less say an offence for polish folks?
08:28	goebbels	tell it to this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiner_Goebbels
08:28	goebbels	Goebbels was not responsible of the killings
08:28	goebbels	read some history
08:29	goebbels	Heiner Goebbels is a composer and not a murderer
08:29	RealBadAngel	read some history, indeed
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08:29	goebbels	RealBadAngel: how many WW2 victims would be saved, if I'd change a nick?
08:30	goebbels	if the answer is 0, then I don't mind to change it
08:32	RealBadAngel	its about the history and memory. if you dont understand it... im not goin to educate you
08:32	goebbels	RealBadAngel: how were you a victim of the national sozialism?
08:32	RealBadAngel	you want names of my familiy members killed in ww2?
08:32	RealBadAngel	dont push it
08:33	goebbels	WW2 had other victims too, not only those in extermination camps
08:33	goebbels	more than 60 million died
08:33	goebbels	do not make yourself a martyr
08:35	RealBadAngel	of what nearly 6 mln was polish
08:35	goebbels	and about 60 million were non-polish?
08:35	goebbels	still you are not a special one or a martyr
08:36	RealBadAngel	and remind me who was responible for that? who was one of the leaders of nazis?
08:37	goebbels	Heiner Goebbels was not responsible for that
08:37	goebbels	I'm his fan
08:38	RealBadAngel	yeah, sure
08:38	RealBadAngel	and all around all idiots
08:39	goebbels	did you know, that Joseph was very intellectual guy?
08:39	goebbels	performing excellent in schools
08:39	goebbels	he was academic guy and a genius
08:41	RealBadAngel	who cares after what he did?
08:41	goebbels	you seem to care
08:42	RealBadAngel	if half of your family would be slagthered durin a war, you could propably understand that
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08:44	goebbels	are you jewish?
08:44	goebbels	or just a communist
08:44	goebbels	what I've seen polish people in Finland... I'm not too surprised no one likes them
08:45	goebbels	they are just thieves
08:46	RealBadAngel	after talkin to you, i could propably say that all finnish are ignorant nazi fans. would you like such judgement?
08:46	goebbels	no, because we are not ignorant
08:47	RealBadAngel	just nazi fans?
08:47	goebbels	yes
08:48	RealBadAngel	so i guess that musican was nazi too then, right?
08:48	goebbels	no he wasn't
08:48	RealBadAngel	and youre his fan? how could that be
08:48	goebbels	Goebbels was a common surname, and there are still Goebbels around there
08:48	goebbels	are you an idiot?
08:49	goebbels	being a nazi doesn't mean you can't like other things too
08:49	RealBadAngel	no, im the jewish communistic thief, i drive a truck too
08:50	goebbels	yeah
08:50	RealBadAngel	and you sir, are just a cheap troll
08:50	RealBadAngel	feed yourself, bye
08:50	goebbels	what :O
08:50	goebbels	please no
08:50	goebbels	don't be so angry
08:50	goebbels	I never did anything bad
08:51	goebbels	I've been a messenger of peace
08:56	wei2912	anyone got free time?
08:57	Calinou	wei2912, why?
08:57	wei2912	Calinou, need some building help on a project
08:59	wei2912	i call it crowdsourcing
09:04	wei2912	Calinou, can you place torches with worldedit?
09:07	wei2912	goebbels, maybe you shouldn't have argued with him
09:07	goebbels	why not?
09:08	Calinou	wei2912, yes
09:08	wei2912	<RealBadAngel> btw some1 told you before, that your nick, name of the men responisble for killing milions, is less say an offence for polish folks?
09:08	Calinou	default:torch
09:08	wei2912	Calinou, seems like it'
09:08	wei2912	it's disoriented
09:08	wei2912	lol
09:08	wei2912	goebbels: you should have just acknowledged it
09:08	wei2912	goebbels: you yourself know that that is true
09:09	wei2912	of course he shouldn't have heated the argument to such a high level
09:09	goebbels	Es war mir vergönnt, viele Jahre meines Lebens unter dem größten Sohne zu wirken, den mein Volk in seiner tausendjährigen Geschichte hervorgebracht hat!
09:10	wei2912	i speak no german
09:10	goebbels	there has been a debate to make minetest german-only
09:10	wei2912	what type of debate was that?
09:10	wei2912	it's freaking open source
09:10	wei2912	don't put random restrictions
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09:11	goebbels	it's not random
09:11	goebbels	but you have to accept the NSDAP principles
09:11	goebbels	in order to use the software
09:12	wei2912	le sigh
09:12	wei2912	i'm starting to feel that RealBadAngel was right
09:13	goebbels	was right in what matter?
09:14	wei2912	i shall not speak more
09:14	goebbels	Whatever we create today, whatever we do, we will die, but Germany will live on in you.
09:14	goebbels	And when there is nothing left of us, then you must hold in your fists the flags that we hoisted out of nothing.
09:14	goebbels	And I know this cannot be otherwise, because you are the flesh of our flesh and the blood of our blood.
09:14	goebbels	And in your young heads burns the same spirit that rules us.
09:17	wei2912	damnit
09:25	goebbels	wei2912: <3
09:26	wei2912	the symbol of a troll
09:26	goebbels	how about this? 卐
09:26	goebbels	if your sucky irc client / terminal can show it
09:26	wei2912	sigh
09:27	wei2912	i need to install unicode
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09:29	wei2912	unicode fonts*
09:29	wei2912	goebbels is truly a troll
09:29	goebbels	no
09:29	goebbels	I'm a developer
09:30	wei2912	let me present you this
09:31	wei2912	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AqHtBLUjgo&amp;playnext=1&amp;list=PL1F2A12D039632DEA&amp;feature=results_main
09:31	goebbels	NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
09:31	wei2912	my friend's hard work
09:31	goebbels	I got a one way ticket to the blues
09:33	goebbels	if The Great Leader hates me for this, I blame you
09:33	wei2912	blame not
09:34	goebbels	The Great Leader not always accepts with my ideas
09:35	wei2912	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5q0ajW8Ko
09:35	goebbels	wei2912: that's a movie, not the real thing
09:35	wei2912	goebbels, thus?
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09:42	Calinou	<goebbels> I'm a developer
09:42	Calinou	[citation needed]
09:42	Calinou	lmao goebbels
09:43	goebbels	I once made the infamous C-Bot with The Great Leader
09:44	Calinou	what's that
09:45	wei2912	i made the infamous JavaBot
09:45	wei2912	weird
09:45	wei2912	no one hates me
09:45	wei2912	Calinou, lol
09:46	Calinou	FortranBot
09:46	Calinou	is the best bot
09:47	goebbels	C-Bot was an autonomous IRC client with enormous capabilities
09:47	goebbels	it was almoust a human
09:48	wei2912	lies my dear friend
09:48	wei2912	http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&amp;channel=fs&amp;q=C-Bot&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8
09:48	wei2912	lol
09:48	VanessaE	good morning all.
09:49	wei2912	VanessaE, hi
09:49	goebbels	hi Ezekowski
09:50	goebbels	Ezekowitz*
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10:01	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
10:02	VanessaE	hey hey PilzAdam
10:02	PilzAdam	im at shool right now
10:02	goebbels	are you a little boy
10:03	PilzAdam	any chance to get MT running on win2000 or latest openSUse without compliing?
10:03	goebbels	sorry, no
10:03	VanessaE	erm, win2k *maybe* since it's similar to XP, which I guess the win build runs on (try it?).  opensuse, I doubt it, but I'm sure compiling isn't too painful there
10:04	PilzAdam	i have not the right tools to compile it :-(
10:05	VanessaE	time to search the repositories :-)
10:05	PilzAdam	i have not root privs here
10:05	VanessaE	it's always been my opinion that any Linux distro should always have a full build environment either already installed or installable from one command.
10:05	VanessaE	oh damn.
10:06	VanessaE	time to grab a live cd ;-)
10:06	VanessaE	I take it this is your workstation>
10:06	VanessaE	?
10:06	PilzAdam	i have no cd drive
10:07	VanessaE	oh wait, school you said
10:07	VanessaE	no help there then :-/
10:07	VanessaE	brb
10:07	goebbels	a little schoolboy
10:08	goebbels	I've seen some schoolgirl porn, but not yet schoolboy porn
10:17		goebbels was kicked by VanessaE: goebbels
10:17	VanessaE	that's enough.
10:18	PilzAdam	yay
10:18	PilzAdam	:-)
10:18	PilzAdam	VanessaE: your animated torches and vessels are in the default game now
10:18	VanessaE	yep
10:19	PilzAdam	any changes for some of my mods to be there too?
10:19	VanessaE	(only needed to persist long enough to stop an auto-rejoin)
10:20	VanessaE	mmm
10:20	VanessaE	which mods again, I can't remember :-)
10:20	PilzAdam	i had TNT, beds and farming in mind
10:21	VanessaE	hm.  good question.
10:21	PilzAdam	i have to work on beds mod
10:21	VanessaE	I'm not entirely sure
10:21	PilzAdam	but TNT is quite simple and lightweight
10:21	VanessaE	right
10:22	VanessaE	c55 might consider that one I think, since the game sorta had it
10:22	PilzAdam	i will make a pull request to minetest_game
10:22	PilzAdam	(when im at home)
10:22	VanessaE	c55 hates my pipeworks mod though - looks "out of place" :-)
10:23	PilzAdam	i dont use it...
10:23	PilzAdam	i like the middle age RPG stile
10:23	PilzAdam	*style
10:23	VanessaE	you may come around some time :-)
10:24	PilzAdam	maybe...
10:24	VanessaE	one of the guys on the forum suggested they'd look good in a steampunk style world :-)
10:26	PilzAdam	VanessaE: whats about throwing mod?
10:26	VanessaE	now that one stands a good chance I think
10:27	VanessaE	c55 likes "survival" stuff and that seems to fit the description well enough :-)
10:27	PilzAdam	is he around?
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10:28	VanessaE	by now it should be about 12:30pm his time, so I assume he's at least awake, but probably at work
10:28	VanessaE	s/at work/working/
10:28	PilzAdam	its same timezone as me
10:29	VanessaE	finland anyways
10:29	cosarara97	I tryed to start minetestserver and then connect to it from the same computer, and I can't connect (Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player). Is this a new bug or I'm doing something wrong?
10:30	VanessaE	cosarara97: you're not the first to experience that error, but I have no clue what the solution is :(
10:30	cosarara97	D:
10:30	VanessaE	are you using 127.0.0.1 for the IP to connect to, or the machine's 'real' IP address?
10:31	cosarara97	localhost (so 127.0.0.1)
10:31	VanessaE	use the actual IP address
10:31	thexyz	PilzAdam: then hack into it & get root password
10:31	VanessaE	"localhost" doesn't work.
10:31	cosarara97	thexyz: I hack into my own computer?
10:31	VanessaE	I mean, use 127.* instead of "localhost" that is.
10:31	cosarara97	ok
10:31	PilzAdam	thexyz: i my teacher is 2 places next to me...
10:32	VanessaE	hi PilzAdam's teacher!!
10:32	thexyz	"but it has a minor bug: you have to shift-jump to get over/onyo it" ← it's feature, not a bug
10:32	thexyz	the bug is that you CAN jump over it
10:32	thexyz	not that you can't jump over it without shift key
10:32	cosarara97	huh, it worked
10:32	cosarara97	localhost used to work
10:32	thexyz	PilzAdam: oh, that's bad
10:33	cosarara97	Do other things in /etc/hosts work?
10:33	thexyz	cosarara97: localhost does work
10:33	thexyz	if it's resolved as 127.0.0.1, not ::1
10:33	thexyz	afaik
10:33	cosarara97	oh
10:33	thexyz	same for all other things in hosts
10:34	VanessaE	thexyz: huh.  I called it a bug only because you can jump over regular fences unassisted.
10:35	thexyz	oh
10:35	thexyz	> well the "x" stuff means its xyz's mod
10:35	cosarara97	that ::1 is ip v6?
10:35	thexyz	i thought it means that this mod tries to mimic minecraft
10:35	thexyz	but, anyway
10:35	thexyz	cosarara97: yes
10:36	VanessaE	blame NekoGloop for that error  ;-)
10:36	VanessaE	actually I read the "x" as "extended" or so
10:37	thexyz	cosarara97: and minetest does not support ipv6
10:38	cosarara97	It'll have to support it one day, but for now ::1 will be called localhost6 in my pc
10:44	VanessaE	thexyz: you should release a new version of xfences that uses the ":" prefix to redefine the existing fences, that way you don't need the abm and it'll all "just work"
10:44	cosarara97	oh, the "get randomly underground" bug returned
10:45	thexyz	VanessaE: that will not work
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10:45	VanessaE	no?
10:45	VanessaE	*looks at code again*
10:46	thexyz	on_place should be called for each fence to properly connect them
10:46	VanessaE	your autorotate code has to run..
10:46	VanessaE	hrm
10:49	* PilzAdam	goes home
10:49	PilzAdam	see you later!
10:51	VanessaE	hrm, I see no solution..  too bad :-/
10:52	VanessaE	good mod though.
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11:07	whirm	hi everyone
11:07	VanessaE	hi
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11:14	goebbels	hiy giys
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12:51	goebbels	https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0gxa3YdgJ1qi740fo1_500.jpg
12:51	PilzAdam	Hi!
12:52	goebbels	Heil Pilz!
12:52	cosarara97	no "future"?
12:53	goebbels	yeah
12:53	goebbels	we have no future tense
12:54	cosarara97	really? Then how do you speak about the future?
12:54	goebbels	finns have no future
12:54	goebbels	we live in the moment
12:54	FreeFull	You don't need the future tense to talk about the future
12:55	cosarara97	example?
12:56	goebbels	"Syön" = "I eat"; "Ensi vuonna syön" = "Next year I will eat"
12:56	cosarara97	"Next year eat"?
12:56	goebbels	yes
12:58	goebbels	"ensi vuonna", as "next year", includes already the presence of future
12:58	goebbels	so no need to specify it anymore
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12:59	goebbels	like "huomenna" = "tomorrow", and "syön" = "I eat", "huomenna syön" = "I will eat tomorrow"
12:59	* Calinou	got banned from two channels at once
13:02	goebbels	cosarara97: you got it?!
13:02	cosarara97	well, you can do exacly the same in catalan, but we have future tense as well - "demà" = "tomorrow", and "menjo" = "I eat", "menjaré" = "I will eat", "demà menjo" = "demà menjaré" = "I will eat tomorrow"
13:03	goebbels	but there exists no any way to tell anything about future without the time-thing (like tomorrow, next year)
13:03	goebbels	in finnish
13:03	goebbels	you can't thell you will do something without telling when
13:03	cosarara97	you can say "one day"
13:04	goebbels	yeah
13:04	goebbels	but always you need the TIME-THIENGIE!
13:04	goebbels	\,,/
13:04	cosarara97	THIENGUIE?
13:05	goebbels	yeah!!
13:06	cosarara97	mmm... no!
13:06	cosarara97	:)
13:08	goebbels	you should learn finnish
13:08	Calinou	SIIVUT
13:09	cosarara97	you should learn catalan
13:09	goebbels	because all the good music is sang in finnish
13:09	cosarara97	you know where catalonia is?
13:09	goebbels	of course, I've played Age of Empires
13:09	cosarara97	I haven't
13:10	cosarara97	So what does Age of Empires say?
13:31	VanessaE	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40800#p40800
13:32	VanessaE	new Ubuntu AMD64 build of today's git, with Anisotropic filtering and MipMap turned on :-)
13:32	wei2912	VanessaE, we need another thing
13:32	wei2912	fog distance config
13:32	goebbels	was good sauna
13:32	goebbels	95 C initial temp
13:33	wei2912	?
13:33	VanessaE	wei2912: I know.  Not sure how to do that; jin_xi is who discovered the AF+MM setting above.
13:33	goebbels	and then some 2 liters of water to the stove during there
13:33	PilzAdam	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9
13:33	goebbels	it's quite hot!
13:33	wei2912	PilzAdam, hmm
13:33	wei2912	you make me want to add my mods
13:33	goebbels	are you sauna fans?
13:34	goebbels	there should be sauna mod in mt
13:34	PilzAdam	IMO c55 should add more mods to default game; users dont have to use the,
13:34	goebbels	the comma?
13:35	wei2912	lol
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13:40	wei2912	PilzAdam, i'll do a pull request too
13:41	VanessaE	there, new AMD64 Ubuntu 12.04 build, with AF+MM and also Trilinear filtering turned on, added to the above post.
13:41	PilzAdam	wei2912, what mods?
13:41	wei2912	PilzAdam, some from minitest
13:42	wei2912	some from others
13:42	wei2912	none which are mine (might be changing...)
13:42	PilzAdam	link to fork?
13:44	wei2912	PilzAdam, wait a moment
13:44	wei2912	PilzAdam, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game
13:46	PilzAdam	a creative inventory is already in the default game
13:46	wei2912	yup
13:46	wei2912	which is what i'm removing now
13:46	PilzAdam	why did you added it?
13:47	PilzAdam	animated torches are also in the game
13:47	wei2912	copied and paste
13:47	VanessaE	you. don't. need. the. creative. inventory. mod.
13:47	VanessaE	jeez :-)
13:47	wei2912	lol
13:47	wei2912	wait
13:47	wei2912	didn't i delete it?
13:47	PilzAdam	and. not. the. animatedtorches. mod.
13:47	VanessaE	right, don't need that either since it's in the game now :-)
13:48	PilzAdam	growing mod is unecassary with my farming mod
13:48	wei2912	should already be deleted
13:48	wei2912	hmm
13:48	PilzAdam	you should use xdoors2 and delte the default doors mod
13:48	wei2912	PilzAdam, anything else i need to delete?
13:48	PilzAdam	thats it i think
13:49	wei2912	PilzAdam, thanks
13:52	PilzAdam	why the … is creative_inventory in MiniTest
13:52	PilzAdam	?
13:52	wei2912	PilzAdam, no idea? lol
13:52	wei2912	remember
13:52	wei2912	i combined my mods with the mods in MiniTest
13:54	wei2912	PilzAdam, okay... updated my mod
13:54	wei2912	PilzAdam, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game/tree/master/mods
13:54	wei2912	VanessaE, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game/tree/master/mods
13:55	wei2912	wait
13:55	wei2912	i forgot to add my mods
13:55	goebbels	you are odd
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13:59	wei2912	goebbels, lol
13:59	wei2912	PilzAdam, VanessaE, finally added my mods
13:59	goebbels	wei2912: do yoou like music?
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13:59	VanessaE	wei2912: that's a lot of mods to add.
14:00	VanessaE	c55 probably will not add them all
14:00	wei2912_	VanessaE, i know
14:00	goebbels	yes he will if we use some violence
14:00	wei2912_	lol
14:00	goebbels	We, as a group, are stronger
14:01	wei2912_	VanessaE, i don't expect him to do so
14:01	PilzAdam	ive updated item_drop so it doesnt override minetest.get_node_drops()
14:02	wei2912_	PilzAdam, oh?
14:02	wei2912_	PilzAdam, now i need to update it :P
14:02	wei2912_	wait i don't phew
14:02	PilzAdam	you shouldnt add other peoples mod to your pull request
14:03	wei2912_	PilzAdam, thus
14:04	wei2912_	i won't add it to my pull request
14:04	wei2912_	lol
14:04	PilzAdam	wei2912_, you have my beds mod in it?
14:04	wei2912_	it's just a collection of mods for now
14:04	wei2912_	PilzAdam, yup
14:04	wei2912_	don't worry i won't push it
14:04	PilzAdam	i will work on this now
14:05	VanessaE	why is it I can pull 40+ fps on one minetest iteration, and 55fps on a second one -- AT THE SAME TIME -- but not 60+ on one only?
14:05	PilzAdam	i have ~200 fps...
14:06	PilzAdam	but limit it to 60 :-(
14:07	goebbels	because the Führer says so
14:07	goebbels	first iteration should be enough on all cases
14:07	goebbels	in*
14:08	VanessaE	goebbels: that's enough with the nazi crap.
14:08	wei2912_	lol
14:08	goebbels	VanessaE: the C-guy is our Führer, or The Great Leader
14:08	goebbels	VanessaE: nothing to do with te N-people
14:08	wei2912_	he changed
14:08	wei2912_	lol
14:09	PilzAdam	VanessaE, i have goebbels on my XChat ignore list... i dont have to read it
14:12	wei2912_	looking for crap to remove now
14:12	wei2912_	PilzAdam, lol
14:15	wei2912_	VanessaE, PilzAdam any mod you see in my mod pack that can cause lag?
14:15	goebbels	modding is bad
14:15	PilzAdam	wait a bit then i will look at it
14:15	wei2912_	PilzAdam, thanks
14:15	VanessaE	wei2912_: ditch animatedtorches (both names), inventory, TNT, farming, nature, madblocks, snow biome.  Replace admin pick with maptools.
14:16	VanessaE	Wait on item_drop until that new function c55 added yesterday is merged in
14:16	PilzAdam	it is
14:16	wei2912_	VanessaE, adminpick is my mod
14:16	VanessaE	some of what I suggest to ditch is because wei2912_ already submitted them :-)  The rest will cause too much CPU load or are already in the game now.
14:16	wei2912_	a stripped down version of maptools
14:17	VanessaE	wei2912_: oh ok.  still I'd recommend maptools for this, it has other stuff that may be useful
14:17	goebbels	there is one mayor problem
14:17	wei2912_	VanessaE, i'll remove animatedtorches, inventor, madblocks and snow. Thanks!
14:17	goebbels	that the game stores the information of every block, even those that are undergroud and non-visible to the player
14:17	goebbels	major*
14:18	jin_xi	one more ignore for goebbels, fuck off
14:19		goebbels was kicked by VanessaE: goebbels
14:19	VanessaE	Bye Bye.
14:19	wei2912_	hmm
14:19	wei2912_	didn't notice you were an op :P
14:19	wei2912_	lol
14:19	jin_xi	thanks VanessaE
14:19	VanessaE	I try to use it very lightly.
14:20	* PilzAdam	is afraid of VanessaE as OP
14:20	wei2912_	lol
14:20	VanessaE	fear not. :-)
14:21	VanessaE	jin_xi: you're welcome.
14:21	VanessaE	ok, time ot go replant my forest in redcrab's server now.
14:21	VanessaE	anyone got some spare dirt? :-S
14:21	wei2912_	VanessaE, greatly improved the speed :D
14:22	wei2912_	reminds me
14:22	wei2912_	i need to update minetest
14:25	wei2912_	PilzAdam, any power source in your carts mod?
14:25	PilzAdam	nope
14:26	PilzAdam	but there is a cart detector for mesecons
14:26	wei2912_	PilzAdam, okay thanks
14:27	wei2912_	PilzAdam, does mesecon increase cpu load by a lot?
14:27	PilzAdam	idk
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14:32	PilzAdam	wei2912 or wei2912_, you dont need to add clean mod to the game because its more a developer tool than a mod for normal users
14:32	wei2912_	PilzAdam, okay
14:32	PilzAdam	my carts mod isnt perfect for default game; its too slow
14:33	keegaan	hello
14:33	wei2912_	PilzAdam, thanks
14:33	wei2912_	and for the carts part... let me try
14:33	wei2912_	and see if i can perfect it
14:33	PilzAdam	there are some minor changes in beds mod but not the changes i originally want to do
14:35	wei2912_	PilzAdam, there is?
14:35	wei2912_	i didn't change tht mod at all
14:35	PilzAdam	VanessaE, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9#issuecomment-8239942
14:36	PilzAdam	wei2912_, dont make a pull request: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9#issuecomment-8239942
14:36	wei2912_	PilzAdam, i won't
14:36	wei2912_	PilzAdam, thanks anyway
14:37	wei2912_	PilzAdam, btw how do i push the cart?
14:37	wei2912_	ah i get it
14:37	wei2912_	lol
14:37	PilzAdam	fork it
14:37	wei2912_	PilzAdam, what about curved rails? i don't have them
14:38	PilzAdam	the automatically get curved
14:39	wei2912_	PilzAdam, oh
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14:41	wei2912_	PilzAdam, hmm carts is buggy when it comes to slanted rails.
14:43	PilzAdam	bugginess: thats another reason to not put it in the default game
14:44	cornernote	for me it was mostly good on slants
14:44	PilzAdam	for me too
14:44	cornernote	i think its really hard to get it perfect with current engine
14:44	PilzAdam	its a question of CPU power
14:44	cornernote	hopefully this mod will be a great reason to improve some engine features
14:45	wei2912_	that was my fault lol
14:45	cornernote	and that will allow more vehicles, etc
14:45	wei2912_	put the rails a weird way
14:45	PilzAdam	cornernote, ask c55 on #minetest-delta
14:46	cornernote	i have no idea what needs to be done
14:46	cornernote	im no c++ programmer :(
14:46	PilzAdam	a function to set the velocity of the player
14:46	cornernote	i just thing that mod will drive engine development in the direction of vehicles, etc
14:46	cornernote	i saw your issue on github about that
14:47	PilzAdam	i have made an issue about that?
14:47	PilzAdam	cant remember
14:47	cornernote	i saw it somewhere
14:48	cornernote	maybe in the forums
14:48	cornernote	dunno
14:48	cornernote	sometimes i imagine things too
14:48	* PilzAdam	too
14:49	cornernote	its a good idea tho
14:49	cornernote	you should submit it as an issue
14:49	cornernote	i'll +1 it
14:49	PilzAdam	maybe i will do
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14:50	wei2912_	PilzAdam, cornernote, i can try
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14:51	cornernote	dont try
14:51	cornernote	imagine
14:51	wei2912_	cornernote: imagine?
14:51	cornernote	its ok, im just tired and rambling
14:51	cornernote	need to sleep
14:51	wei2912_	lol
14:51	cornernote	but need to watch dexter
14:51	wei2912_	how do i send a pull request?
14:52	wei2912_	can't figure it out
14:52	cornernote	got the windows client ?
14:52	PilzAdam	to your fork or to upstream?
14:52	wei2912_	upstream
14:52	wei2912_	cornernote: windows client?
14:52	wei2912_	i got old smartgit
14:52	wei2912_	smartgit*
14:52	wei2912_	it isn't old lol
14:54	wei2912_	PilzAdam, upstream
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15:11	wei2912	fixed the issue
15:12	* Calinou	got banned from a channel
15:12	VanessaE	oh there's a surprise.
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15:12	VanessaE	;)
15:12	Calinou	3 bans in one day
15:12	Calinou	seriously
15:12	PilzAdam	what channels?
15:12	Calinou	#ubuntu-fr (last one), #redeclipse, #re-lobby
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15:15	celeron55	"why is it I can pull 40+ fps on one minetest iteration, and 55fps on a second one -- AT THE SAME TIME -- but not 60+ on one only?" <- because you have multiple cores
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15:19	wei2912	jackpot celeron55! lol
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15:21	wei2912	ol
15:21	wei2912	lol
15:21	wei2912	using fire i could destroy lava source?
15:21	VanessaE	celeron55: so I assumed :-)
15:22	celeron55	it will probably be the year million plus one when i will get a main computer that has a GPU that can render stuff at a higher rate than the CPU can regularly feed it; that year minetest might get better in that sense
15:22	VanessaE	heh
15:22	VanessaE	or if someone releases a patch of course
15:22	wei2912	lol
15:23	wei2912	celeron55, i noticed one thing
15:23	wei2912	water has a stop
15:23	wei2912	lava doesn't?
15:23	celeron55	nobody dares to even try anything like that, as for what i've observed
15:23	wei2912	my gosh
15:23	wei2912	lava has no limit!
15:24	wei2912	what have you done...
15:24	VanessaE	*shrug* it's no big deal really.  Just something I noticed (I had figured the game was already multithreaded by now)
15:24	wei2912	lava is distruptive
15:24	celeron55	it is multithreaded but at least with irrlicht you can't do any rendering in other than the thread where irrlicht is running in
15:25	VanessaE	celeron55: ah, gotchya
15:26	PilzAdam	celeron55, you think the api should contain functions to get same control on player as on entities?
15:27	celeron55	that is not really the bottleneck though, the real bottleneck is the smallness of the individual blobs of data that are fed to the GPU, and the fact that they aren't stored on the GPU side (it doesn't give any speed improvement at their current sizes)
15:28	celeron55	PilzAdam: maybe; but it's not that simple; how do you tell when the human has the control, and when something else has the control?
15:29	PilzAdam	maybe enable_keyboar_control(boolean)
15:30	wei2912	muhahhaa
15:30	wei2912	lava cooling
15:31	PilzAdam	celeron55,  and maybe you can add register_on_keay_pressed(function(key, player)) and register_on_key_released()
15:31	celeron55	lava cooling is a thing i'd be interested in including upstream, as long as it isn't a performance hog
15:31	PilzAdam	with this you can create better carts, boads, cars...
15:31	wei2912	celeron55, it isn't
15:31	wei2912	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2709
15:32	celeron55	PilzAdam: it will have terrible lag though
15:32	celeron55	or, well, varying lag
15:32	PilzAdam	its just an idea
15:33	PilzAdam	but control velocity and accelaration of player is important for many mods: carts, planets, moon
15:34	wei2912	ah!
15:34	wei2912	got a great idea
15:34	wei2912	to solve the problem of flatlands
15:34	VanessaE	celeron55: do you plan to re-introduce jungle biomes?  If not, I'd like to nominate my junglegrass mod for inclusion since some other mods need such.
15:34	wei2912	make a "game" which generates flatlands
15:36	celeron55	VanessaE: the problem with all these plans is that if i try to list them anywhere, the list grows so long it will be just forgotten as "nobody can ever make all of those, and which of those is important anyway?", and if i don't, i, well, do things happily but more randomly, and forget that kind of things 8)
15:36	VanessaE	heh
15:37	PilzAdam	bye CIA-bot
15:37	celeron55	CYA-bot
15:40	wei2912	PilzAdam, celeron55 VanessaE anyone can access http://www.filesplat.com/.kddekadenz/shared/flatland.zip?
15:40	VanessaE	well in that case, new pull request pending :D
15:40	wei2912	i need to obtain it to create a flatland world.
15:40	VanessaE	wei2912: no.  dead link (even without the ? )
15:41	wei2912	sigh
15:41	wei2912	VanessaE, do you have the flatlands mod?
15:41	VanessaE	nope
15:43	wei2912	VanessaE, PilzAdam any idea how i can generate flatland?
15:43	PilzAdam	set all mapgen output to air
15:43	VanessaE	short of using worldedit, I have no idea - I've never hooked into the map generator.
15:43	PilzAdam	and then use on_generate
15:43	wei2912	PilzAdam, set mapgen output to air and use on_generate?
15:43	wei2912	PilzAdam, wait
15:44	wei2912	hmm
15:44	wei2912	i think i'm using a new "game"
15:44	wei2912	(games/*)
15:44	wei2912	yup i am
15:45	wei2912	PilzAdam, any idea?
15:45	PilzAdam	yes many
15:45	PilzAdam	i can do it for you
15:45	wei2912	PilzAdam, do i still need to set mapgen output to air?
15:46	PilzAdam	its faster then overriding it in on_generate
15:46	wei2912	PilzAdam, i'm not overriding
15:46	wei2912	PilzAdam, i hope
15:46	wei2912	lol
15:47	FreeFull	Have biomes be a mod
15:47	FreeFull	And then anybody can easily make new biomes
15:47	wei2912	PilzAdam, how do i create a for loop?
15:48	PilzAdam	see lua.org/pil
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15:49	wei2912	PilzAdam, okay
15:51	wei2912	PilzAdam, i sort of... suceeded?
15:51	wei2912	in making a completely empty space
15:51	PilzAdam	yes
15:52	PilzAdam	know use on_generate() to check the height and add the correct stone/dirt blocks
15:52	wei2912	PilzAdam, check the height?
15:52	wei2912	wait let me post my code...
15:52	PilzAdam	wait i will give you some code
15:52	wei2912	PilzAdam, http://pastebin.com/KjaP5jua
15:52	wei2912	okay thanks a lot
15:54	hmmmm	my computer does that, i have an athlon 64 3500+ paired with an 8400gs
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15:58	hmmmm	anyway about the 'flatlands' game, that was a modification i was planning to make
15:59	wei2912	hmmmm, hmmmm
15:59	hmmmm	you'd be able to control mapgen parameters by sending server commands
15:59	hmmmm	and there can be some 'presets' for collections of parameters
15:59	wei2912	hmmmm, same idea
15:59	wei2912	there's a major diff.
15:59	PilzAdam	wei2912, untested: https://gist.github.com/3610270
15:59	wei2912	i'm a lua complete noob
15:59	hmmmm	and then you can do like /mapgen set flatlands and flatlands would be like
15:59	hmmmm	2 octaves
15:59	hmmmm	.30 persistance
15:59	hmmmm	etc.
16:00	wei2912	hmmmm, that would be... laggy
16:00	hmmmm	how would that be laggy............?
16:00	wei2912	PilzAdam, thanks a lot
16:00	wei2912	hmmmm, isn't that converting the terrain?
16:00	PilzAdam	try it i dunno if it works
16:01	wei2912	unless you can add a pull request for a re-mapgenerator?
16:02	wei2912	PilzAdam, let me try...
16:02	PilzAdam	wei2912, hmmm my version is very slow
16:03	wei2912	PilzAdam, doesn't seem to work
16:03	wei2912	oh wait
16:03	wei2912	i didn't save
16:03	PilzAdam	and it doesn work as expected
16:03	wei2912	lol
16:04	wei2912	oh!
16:05	PilzAdam	this works better: https://gist.github.com/3610270
16:07	wei2912	PilzAdam, will try that one after i try mine
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16:12	NekoGloop	oh look vanessae's op
16:12	PilzAdam	Hi NekoGloop
16:12	VanessaE	not anymore ;)
16:13	NekoGloop	hi pizadam
16:13	NekoGloop	lol vanessae
16:13	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game
16:14	NekoGloop	so that's the default game + throwing, farming, and tnt?
16:14	wei2912	PilzAdam, this seems almost impossible to do
16:15	wei2912	PilzAdam, i have no idea why the old map generator works well while ours doesn't
16:15	PilzAdam	because the default one is in programmed in c++ -> it runs native and fast
16:16	wei2912	PilzAdam, hmm
16:16	wei2912	might hack it
16:16	NekoGloop	vanessae: I'm getting pipeworks now ;)
16:16	PilzAdam	VanessaE, "Added junglegrass mod, this time against a current git because I'm an idiot." lol
16:17	wei2912	gtg bye
16:17	hmmmm	converting the terrain??
16:17	hmmmm	what are you talking about
16:17	PilzAdam	flatlands
16:17	NekoGloop	what is this, "fork minetest_game to hell" day?
16:18	PilzAdam	https://gist.github.com/3610270
16:18	hmmmm	no, if you were to change mapgen parameters, new chunks of the map that are genned will reflect the new parameters
16:18	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, i started and then others did the same…
16:18	hmmmm	for example you start off a game, all the current genned blocks will be nice and hilly and lakey like default minetest
16:18	hmmmm	and then after you set the parameters, when you go to generate new terrain, it'll be nice and flat
16:19	hmmmm	and buildable
16:19	VanessaE	PilzAdam: yep.  I'm an idiot when it comes to git sometimes :-)
16:20	* PilzAdam	too
16:20	PilzAdam	who isnt; please raise your hand!
16:20	* NekoGloop	lowers his hand
16:20	VanessaE	heh
16:20	* celeron55	raises
16:21	NekoGloop	lol
16:21	celeron55	git is an idiot when it comes to me.
16:21	PilzAdam	lol
16:21	VanessaE	BAH!H!H!
16:21	VanessaE	sugar free drink -> monitor
16:21	NekoGloop	shorted out monitor
16:21	NekoGloop	:D
16:21	VanessaE	thanks for the laugh, c55 :D
16:22	NekoGloop	celeron55: well we're both giving each other phrases, now arent we? :)
16:23	NekoGloop	who wants me to release my gates mod?
16:23	VanessaE	does it work? :-)
16:23	NekoGloop	yup
16:23	NekoGloop	tiles properly with xfences as well
16:24	VanessaE	excellent
16:24	NekoGloop	(at least, looks kinda decent tiling with xfences)
16:24	VanessaE	release it
16:24	NekoGloop	one moment
16:24	NekoGloop	i wanna tune up the nodebox a bit
16:24	VanessaE	probably good to post a link on the original gates thread
16:24	NekoGloop	i'd have to find it ;)
16:24	VanessaE	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=896
16:25	NekoGloop	lol ok
16:25	NekoGloop	nodeboxes were the worst part about the mod ;)
16:25	NekoGloop	right next to getting them to place right and getting them to open
16:26	NekoGloop	hm... should i make different material gates? e.g. steel, stone?
16:27	PilzAdam	nope!
16:27	NekoGloop	why not?
16:27	PilzAdam	we dont need every single item/node made of 1045789 different materials
16:27	NekoGloop	lol
16:28	NekoGloop	so you say
16:29	NekoGloop	oh and light can go through an open gate
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16:29	NekoGloop	meaning you can use the gates as windows
16:30	PilzAdam	OS?
16:30	NekoGloop	no
16:30	NekoGloop	i mean for house building
16:30	_2cool4me4_	I has registered nick
16:30	NekoGloop	cool
16:31	NekoGloop	or, rather, 2cool
16:31	NekoGloop	:DF
16:31	NekoGloop	:D*
16:31	_2cool4me4_	Freenode told me too
16:31	_2cool4me4_	#_2cool4me4_channel24 :P
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16:33	NekoGloop	ohai redcrab
16:34	redcrab	hi
16:34	PilzAdam	hi
16:34	_2cool4me4_	celeron's here too
16:35	NekoGloop	he's been here, where have you been?
16:35	_2cool4me4_	not here
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16:36	RealBadAngel	hi all
16:36	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, item_drop has changed
16:36	RealBadAngel	again?
16:36	RealBadAngel	btw i seen some change made by c55
16:36	PilzAdam	https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/README.txt#L20
16:36	RealBadAngel	that u asked for?
16:36	PilzAdam	yes
16:37	NekoGloop	i made working fence gates
16:37	RealBadAngel	i guess i will have to compile the newest one
16:37	PilzAdam	it overrides the new function: https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/init.lua#L65
16:37	NekoGloop	now they tile PERFECTLY with xfences
16:37	RealBadAngel	some1 maybe has it already compiled for win?
16:37	_2cool4me4_	normally sfan5 does
16:38	RealBadAngel	09.01
16:38	RealBadAngel	so i guess this fix isnt here yet
16:39	NekoGloop	lets see a show of hands
16:39	sfan5	should i make a new build?
16:39	NekoGloop	who wants my fence gate?
16:39	RealBadAngel	ooops theres one from today
16:39	_2cool4me4_	http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
16:39	_2cool4me4_	if ya didn't know
16:40	RealBadAngel	sfan5, you made build today already, right?
16:42	_2cool4me4_	the mesecons website background really doesn't like my eyes... I can see my LCD refreshing...
16:43	Calinou	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/794c68b32b81c8b7bd31ac0fb8cf584a13ad457d
16:43	Calinou	O_o
16:43	Calinou	this mod has no use :/
16:43	RealBadAngel	hmmmmz, is  it just me or the newest build is just slower??
16:43	_2cool4me4_	calinou: LIES! Celeron made it!
16:43	NekoGloop	Calinou: it has the use of being a base for other mods
16:44	NekoGloop	_2cool4me4_: VanessaE made it :/
16:44	VanessaE	what did I make?
16:44	VanessaE	oh, vessels.
16:44	RealBadAngel	yeah, when you make vodka with ice no longer need to drink it from a bucket
16:44	thexyz	that mod provides standards for other mods
16:44	VanessaE	it has no use, yet. :-)
16:45	VanessaE	though UD uses it, and a few other mods have their own glassware, so this was an attempt to ...yeah, what thexyz said
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16:45	_2cool4me4_	lol ninjad?
16:45	sfan5	RealBadAngel: my last build cc47ff7
16:45	sfan5	+is
16:45	RealBadAngel	k, got it
16:46	VanessaE	hey hey RealBadAngel.
16:46	RealBadAngel	i just run it and with empty world no mods i do have 30fps
16:46	sfan5	and the latest minetest is cc47ff7
16:46	RealBadAngel	hi VanessaE
16:46	_2cool4me4_	my rc1 runs at ~60FPS
16:46	RealBadAngel	so i asked, wtf has changed
16:46	sfan5	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master
16:46	RealBadAngel	here jumps from 30 to 40 now
16:46	NekoGloop	i run at 25fpx
16:46	NekoGloop	fps*
16:47	RealBadAngel	while before i had 60fps with 128x textures
16:47	Calinou	<NekoGloop> Calinou: it has the use of being a base for other mods
16:47	Calinou	pheh
16:47	_2cool4me4_	One person has been banned on this channel...
16:47	Calinou	can't craft dyes
16:47	Calinou	<thexyz> that mod provides standards for other mods
16:47	Calinou	*points to xkcd*
16:49	VanessaE	http://xkcd.com/927/
16:49	NekoGloop	_2cool4me4_: who?
16:49	thexyz	Calinou: yes, that's what happens when there is no official standard
16:50	_2cool4me4_	NekoGloop: Idk his nick, Vanessa banned him
16:50	NekoGloop	ok
16:50	NekoGloop	gates are coming well
16:50	NekoGloop	you now cannot jump over a closed gate
16:50	_2cool4me4_	notbad
16:51	VanessaE	goebbels...
16:51	NekoGloop	oh
16:51	VanessaE	that's the banned nick.
16:51	NekoGloop	well i dont blame you then
16:52	NekoGloop	papyrus REALLY needs a nodebox
16:52	VanessaE	NekoGloop: 3dforniture.
16:52	RealBadAngel	hmmm, terrain generator makes wild things
16:52	NekoGloop	er...
16:52	NekoGloop	selectionbox not nodebox
16:52	Calinou	animated torches :D
16:52	Calinou	they're a bitch to make in minecraft packs. VERY (the wall ones)
16:53	* Calinou	suggests: animated water in default game
16:53	NekoGloop	i still have normal torches :D
16:53	Calinou	we need a texture though
16:53	RealBadAngel	wtf is that: http://realbadangel.pl/sce1.png
16:53	Calinou	they're default now in git
16:53	Calinou	nice domain you have there RealBadAngel
16:53	Calinou	rich RealBadAngel
16:53	RealBadAngel	lol
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16:53	NekoGloop	well i guess i get animated torches then, eh?
16:53	NekoGloop	and work on animated kalite torches
16:54	VanessaE	yup
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16:54	NekoGloop	i only really need to splash the kalite colors on the torche
16:54	NekoGloop	torch*
16:55	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, item_drop has changed again ;-)
16:56	RealBadAngel	whats new?
16:56	PilzAdam	nothing for users or other developers
16:56	RealBadAngel	dont tell me "i rewrote the code"
16:56	RealBadAngel	heheh
16:56	PilzAdam	just get rid of the register_on_dignode() function
16:57	celeron55	wtf is wrong with wordpress's akismet
16:57	Calinou	misa pack updated with support
16:57	Calinou	celeron55, things are always wrong with akismet.
16:57	celeron55	one of my posts received a comment that had a website called "moneykiller.info"
16:58	thexyz	minetest.register_globalstep(function(dtime)
16:58	thexyz	for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do
16:58	celeron55	like, isn't that so obvious spam? 8)
16:58	thexyz	awesome code you have there
16:58	celeron55	it didn't even mark it for pending moderation
16:58	PilzAdam	thexyz, ?
16:59	thexyz	PilzAdam: you know that globalstep runs every 0.05 seconds, right?
16:59	PilzAdam	yes
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16:59	PilzAdam	normally
16:59	NekoGloop	is that why it doesnt work?
16:59	PilzAdam	i didnt ever said its good for servers
16:59	NekoGloop	item_drop doesnt work, never has :)
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17:00	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, on normal computers it works
17:00	NekoGloop	my computer is normal
17:00	PilzAdam	nope
17:00	celeron55	well that isn't particularly bad; it needs to respond fairly quickly
17:00	thexyz	PilzAdam: then why don't you make it run every second?
17:00	thexyz	or some other time value
17:00	PilzAdam	it "feels" slow for players
17:00	thexyz	oh poor players
17:01	* Calinou	facepalms at thexyz
17:01	Calinou	MT is aimed at slower computers
17:01	RealBadAngel	player, player, i heard somethin bout players. rumour says that they do play, is that true?
17:02	RealBadAngel	never seen one before...
17:02	* PilzAdam	sees only modders too
17:02	NekoGloop	i play
17:02	celeron55	thexyz: that won't be bad for regular amounts of players i think
17:02	PilzAdam	so what interval?
17:02	celeron55	thexyz: but will be somewhat on a server with tens of players
17:02	RealBadAngel	NekoGloop, you dont count :P
17:02	redcrab	in lua script ... How to disconnect a connected player (without banning him)
17:03	_2cool4me4_	RBA: I don't do anything advanced
17:03	RealBadAngel	;)
17:03	PilzAdam	redcrab, ban and unban?
17:03	_2cool4me4_	wink?
17:04	celeron55	actually, comparing that is very easy; see the "SEnv step" value in a fully-loaded world with that mod off and on
17:04	redcrab	PilzAdam ... to wide action ... because if the IP is owned by a school or a home with multiple player ... every player with same ip will be disconnected
17:04	redcrab	PilzAdam ...I means too wild ... :)
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17:06	RealBadAngel	hi sdzen
17:06	sdzen	ello
17:06	sfan5	ata
17:06	sdzen	need textures still RBA?
17:07	RealBadAngel	yup
17:07	sdzen	what was it alloy furnace?
17:07	RealBadAngel	yeah, im finishin coding it now
17:08	RealBadAngel	you could think also of another one for coal generator, this one is a little weirdo
17:09	sdzen	kay
17:09	NekoGloop	coal generator should look kinda like a furnace
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17:11	YTR-123`	Hi guys
17:11	_2cool4me4_	I don't know you
17:11	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, i looked at SEnv step as c55 said an when just standing around with or without is nearly the same (~0.02 difference) and with digging at high speed with mese pick i get up to 0.35 without item drop and to 0.4 with item drop
17:11	YTR-123`	Youtube-Recordz-123 ?
17:11	_2cool4me4_	ohh
17:12	YTR-123`	lol
17:12	YTR-123`	SWALK
17:12	YTR-123`	who knows what that means?
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17:12	NekoGloop	not me
17:12	PilzAdam	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWALK
17:13	NekoGloop	some exception: fuck off
17:13	* YTR-123`	are you takin da pizz ^
17:13	Calinou	a wild troll appears
17:13	Calinou	Calinou uses "no troll 4 u"
17:14	Calinou	it's super effective
17:14	_2cool4me4_	1 hit KO
17:14	* NekoGloop	didnt faint
17:14	celeron55	PilzAdam: SEnv step avg is what you should be comparing, actually
17:14	PilzAdam	k
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17:14	YTR-123`	i know this has F**k all to do with minetest but any good films or tv series to watch ? cuz im bored
17:15	celeron55	hmm, well, apparently the accumulated time stabilizes after some time too
17:15	_2cool4me4_	Is there a newer program for editing mesecons than temperest's?
17:15	celeron55	it just takes looooong
17:15	_2cool4me4_	YTR-123`: Pawn Stars
17:15	Calinou	who are you, YTR-123`?
17:15	_2cool4me4_	youtuberecords
17:15	_2cool4me4_	z
17:22	iqualfragile	YTR-123`: try sync by corridor new media or something
17:23	NekoGloop	lol he left
17:25	NekoGloop	VanessaE & RealBadAngel: when and how will pipes work?
17:25	RealBadAngel	first tubes then pipes
17:26	NekoGloop	wouldnt pipes be easier thoguh?
17:26	RealBadAngel	propably yes
17:26	RealBadAngel	and when tubes done even more easier
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17:29	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, celeron55, digging at constant speed with mese pickaxe has 0.002 at SEnv step avg; item drop seems to have no effect on it
17:31	RealBadAngel	thats nice
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17:44	PilzAdam	gtg
17:44	PilzAdam	bye
17:48	hmmmm	heh
17:48	hmmmm	http://fbcraft.fwsnet.net/sunrise.png
17:48	hmmmm	i think i know what minetest needs :)
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17:50	Calinou	hi hmmmm long time no see :)
17:50	hmmmm	hey
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18:04	thexyz	damn
18:04	thexyz	that mesecons website is not helpful at all
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18:06	neko259	Calinou: Hi!
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18:07	thexyz	VanessaE_: could you tell jeija that i can host that mesecons website?
18:08	neko259	VanessaE_: Hi.
18:08	neko259	VanessaE_: What did you change in nature? I try to test it and don't see any flower or bush.
18:09	neko259	But I don't remember what rates did they have...
18:10	VanessaE_	thexyz: neko259 I just tweaked bushes and irontrees to use the modified API, otherwise they should be about the same as before
18:10	VanessaE_	oops.
18:11	VanessaE_	neko ^^^
18:11	VanessaE_	thexyz: I'll let him know but I think we have a solution already :-)
18:11	thexyz	VanessaE_: what solution?
18:12	VanessaE_	we have an alternate on 000webhost.com, which seems to work well
18:12	VanessaE_	(free, no ads, and fast now - was really slow before, which is why we didn't use it as the default)
18:12	VanessaE_	mesecons.net23.net
18:12	thexyz	as for now there are ads
18:12	thexyz	oh
18:13	thexyz	ok, but i still think that free hosting is always worse
18:13	Calinou	protip: adblock
18:13	thexyz	yes, yes
18:13	Calinou	it isn't necessarily
18:13	thexyz	that's certainly better solution
18:13	Calinou	not paying is a good thing
18:13	VanessaE_	Calinou: protip: adblockplus doesn't handle those weird slideovers that ohost.de uses
18:14	Calinou	oh?
18:14	Calinou	well noscript then
18:14	Calinou	have to go now; bye
18:15	neko259	VanessaE_: So could you fix it by yourself? I don't have much time for coding, sorry :(
18:15	neko259	Hmm.
18:15	VanessaE_	neko259: should need fixed?  I'll give it some further tests today though
18:15	VanessaE_	shouldn't*
18:16	neko259	I'll login once more in an hour and walk for a while. If I'll not see any flowers again, it definitely should be fixed.
18:16	VanessaE_	oh I know flowers works :-)
18:16	thexyz	what am i doing wrong? http://i.imgur.com/M6z3h.png
18:16	VanessaE_	maybe a little too well in fact
18:17	neko259	What do you mean?
18:17	VanessaE_	thexyz: don't use the if() command for continuous assignments. :-)
18:17	thexyz	?
18:17	VanessaE_	sbi(B,A)sbi(C,!A)
18:17	thexyz	what do you mean?
18:17	VanessaE_	that would do the same
18:17	thexyz	but what if i want to use if?
18:17	VanessaE_	then I dunno :D  but the code does look right
18:17	thexyz	shoudln't my code work?
18:18	thexyz	ok, let me post issue about it
18:18	VanessaE_	wait
18:18	VanessaE_	hothing turns off B or C though
18:18	VanessaE_	nothing*
18:18	thexyz	microcontroller should turn them off
18:18	thexyz	as manual says
18:18	VanessaE_	no
18:18	thexyz	3) Every time a button is hit, the microcontroller performs a reset, which
18:18	thexyz	means it turns off all the Ports
18:18	thexyz	yes
18:18	VanessaE_	I thin that means the buttons in the µC UI.
18:18	VanessaE_	think*(
18:18	thexyz	oh
18:19	VanessaE_	if you want if's, you need something like   if(A)on(B)off(C)>off(B)on(C);
18:19	thexyz	lol
18:19	thexyz	true
18:19	VanessaE_	hence why sbi() is better ;)
18:19	thexyz	if(A)on(B)off(C)>on(C)off(B);
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18:26	thexyz	https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/37
18:27	VanessaE_	eek
18:28	thexyz	that code works for me
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18:33	bas080	Hello people of the minetest
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18:35	_2cool4me4_	who is frigg/
18:37	bas080	I had same question.
18:37	bas080	I get some weird message...
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18:39	thexyz	?
18:41	_2cool4me4_	there's something named frigg that always VERSION's
18:43	bas080	_2cool4me4_ , do you know what the message is about?
18:44	_2cool4me4_	nope
18:45	_2cool4me4_	type /version _2cool4me4_
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18:46	bas080	Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to bas080) from _2cool4me4_ ??? why would one do that?
18:46	_2cool4me4_	I wanted to see what it did...
18:46	_2cool4me4_	now I know that you are using Purple IRC
18:50	_2cool4me4_	crap, just broke my headphones
18:54	_2cool4me4_	slow day...
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19:22	himmler	hey all
19:24	himmler	The Great Leader told me: Thou shall not be afraid, to express the views not commonly accepted
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19:38	NekoGloop	i really should release my gates :)
19:38	himmler	bill gates?
19:39	thexyz	NekoGloop: why do you use xdoors as base?
19:39	himmler	I guess it's because of his soviet background
19:39	NekoGloop	thexyz: because it uses a single node
19:39	thexyz	it's heavily outdated
19:39	thexyz	and non-optimal
19:40	thexyz	just fyi
19:40	NekoGloop	runs perfectly good on my bitchy comp
19:40	thexyz	that doesn't make this mod's code better
19:40	NekoGloop	anyway
19:40	NekoGloop	what's nonoptimal in xdoors?
19:41	thexyz	rotation detection
19:41	NekoGloop	i see
19:41	thexyz	the thing that calculates param2
19:41	thexyz	better use xdoors2
19:41	NekoGloop	lol
19:41	thexyz	just remove top part of door
19:42	NekoGloop	but xdoors2 uses two nodes and flips them
19:42	thexyz	that's not so hard to modify
19:42	NekoGloop	modding xdoors was simpler ;)
19:42	thexyz	anyway, i guess, i shouldn't care that much about it
19:42	NekoGloop	although i shall see what i can splice from xdoors2 to make this easier
19:42	himmler	I was just thinking about.. you ever got female company?
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19:47	NekoGloop	ok xdoors2 just confused me even more
19:50	NekoGloop	cool part: my gates mod uses default textures, adding support for TPs
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19:55	NekoGloop	thexyz: i also used xfences's method of preventing the player from jumping over a node
19:55	NekoGloop	you cant jump over a closed gate
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19:56	NekoGloop	gates mod downlaod: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3z242i
19:56	NekoGloop	posting on forums in just a sec :)
19:58	_2cool4me4_	now I has my nick back
20:03	_2cool4me4_	control set A is done... UGH
20:04	NekoGloop	you might like to look at this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40875#p40875 ;) gates mod is RELEASED! W00T!
20:05	_2cool4me4_	I busy... Control set B is done
20:05	_2cool4me4_	Now how do I organize this?
20:05	NekoGloop	i have no idea what you are doing
20:05	_2cool4me4_	Setting up the controls for the ALU
20:06	NekoGloop	oh
20:06	_2cool4me4_	still haven't built it
20:06	NekoGloop	shit i need to add more to my mesecons world
20:06	_2cool4me4_	I'm surpassing you
20:07	NekoGloop	heh
20:07	NekoGloop	i just need to work on it :D
20:08	_2cool4me4_	Byebye
20:11	NekoGloop	requesting topic move to mod releases for gates mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2943
20:12	_2cool4me4_	Good job neko
20:12	NekoGloop	thank you
20:13	NekoGloop	er... now move it, i added dependancy info
20:13	NekoGloop	:D
20:15	_2cool4me4_	This seems to be a very MUXy alu
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20:32	celeron55	i fixed the shift descend to ladders from floors
20:32	celeron55	(somebody complained on the forum)
20:32	NekoGloop	we all complained here ;)
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20:39	_2cool4me4_	too bad Worldedit doesn't have an undo
20:41	celeron55	enable the rollback functionality 8)
20:41	_2cool4me4_	U has that?
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20:49	_2cool4me4_	2 sets of inputs, with a 0 and negate bit, done
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21:06	NekoGloop	love dat quit message :D
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21:12	VanessaE_	celeron55: what's the correct recipe for white wool now?
21:14	NekoGloop	there is none
21:14	NekoGloop	(looked at the code)
21:15	VanessaE_	that's what I thouight
21:15	NekoGloop	gloopblocks used to be able to convert 9 flowers:cotton into a wool block but it became outdated
21:15	NekoGloop	same with farming
21:16	NekoGloop	for some reason it turns into an unknown block
21:16	VanessaE_	oh well
21:16	celeron55	ambience is epic.
21:16	NekoGloop	celeron, that was the most off-topic thing ever
21:17	celeron55	there is no other word for this, except maybe awesome
21:17	VanessaE_	indeed it is, but still needs tuning
21:17	celeron55	i love the glitchiness
21:18	NekoGloop	deerrrrrrp
21:18	NekoGloop	i made gloopblocks' recipe use "default:wool"
21:18	NekoGloop	brb killing myself
21:19	NekoGloop	still like what icechat chose for 2cool's quit message
21:20	NekoGloop	"He who laughs last, thinks slowest"
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21:23	celeron55	VanessaE_: there is no recipe for wool, i expect to add a recipe that would result in something like cotton that actually makes wool when (yes, WHEN) i pull in farming
21:24	NekoGloop	hello splizard
21:24	VanessaE_	*shrug* ok
21:24	Splizard	hi
21:24	VanessaE_	note that Flowers mod also provides cotton
21:24	NekoGloop	celeron55: farming already makes cotton
21:24	NekoGloop	er... wool, and cotton
21:24	celeron55	or if somebody magically makes some kind of mobs that don't suck infinitely in most people's eyes, that'd work too
21:24	NekoGloop	wrong word :D
21:25	celeron55	but i am estimating the former comes first
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21:28	Splizard	NekoGloop: What wasn't working with my gates mod?
21:29	NekoGloop	placing a node crashed minetest
21:32	Splizard	did you have version 1.6 of gates?
21:32	NekoGloop	yes
21:33	NekoGloop	and, yes, i unzipped the sip in the sip
21:33	NekoGloop	zip* zip*
21:33	Splizard	what was the error?
21:34	NekoGloop	you expect me to remember?
21:34	Splizard	no I guess not :D
21:34	NekoGloop	one moment
21:35	NekoGloop	ah i remember now
21:35	NekoGloop	attempt to index "gates.registered_nodes" (a nil value) at line 68.
21:36	keegaan	hello
21:37	NekoGloop	Splizard: your API is fail
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21:38	Splizard	yes XD
21:39	NekoGloop	anyway, could you help with mine? i dont like the nodeboxes how they are
21:39	_2cool4me4_	Yeesh, I don't even have the adder implimented yet, and this is a mess of microcontrollers
21:39	Splizard	sure
21:40	NekoGloop	oh, and i also made closed gates be unable to be jumped over
21:40	NekoGloop	Splizard: make my code use the nodeboxes you have for small gates, then pastebin the code for me.
21:40	Splizard	ok
21:40	NekoGloop	thank you
21:41	keegaan	anyone have linux?
21:41	NekoGloop	keegaan: everyone but me :D
21:42	keegaan	ok
21:42	keegaan	i was seein if there is any good stuff to put on it
21:43	NekoGloop	well there's minetest
21:44	_2cool4me4_	I dont' have linux
21:44	_2cool4me4_	toopid neko
21:44	NekoGloop	lol
21:44	keegaan	yea my computer is 1.22 ghz and i get 2 FPS
21:44	NekoGloop	ok everyone but me and 2cool
21:44	_2cool4me4_	Yay!
21:44	_2cool4me4_	wait
21:44	_2cool4me4_	boo
21:44	NekoGloop	keegaan: my comp has 3.4 ghz
21:45	_2cool4me4_	I haz a 2.2ghz quad core
21:45	keegaan	but i can walk on it and uts kinda jumpy
21:45	NekoGloop	why would you walk on a computer?
21:45	_2cool4me4_	and a 3ghz single core upstairs in my media center
21:45	_2cool4me4_	*sorta media center
21:45	keegaan	on the minetest game
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21:47	_2cool4me4_	There are a ton of microcontrollers in this project
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21:48	frogcrush	lol, getting 4 fps
21:48	_2cool4me4_	I've had worse
21:49	frogcrush	Prolly should install gfx drivers
21:49	frogcrush	I had 1 on my sisters laptop b4 I installed her drivers
21:50	frogcrush	Does minetest have a FPS cap?
21:50	NekoGloop	you can set one
21:50	_2cool4me4_	FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
21:51	frogcrush	The most I can ever get is 60 FPS
21:51	NekoGloop	most i get is 20
21:51	_2cool4me4_	Worldedit shifted half my circuit...
21:51	frogcrush	Thats not bad
21:52	NekoGloop	i set my cap to 25
21:52	VanessaE_	zzz
21:52	frogcrush	I keep trying to see where my hardware limits are
21:52	_2cool4me4_	I'm getting around 30 and my mesecons world is running (ots of microcontrollers)
21:52	* NekoGloop	pokes vanessae
21:53	_2cool4me4_	VanessaE tired
21:53	_2cool4me4_	NO NEKO DON'T
21:53	* NekoGloop	kicks the tree
21:53	_2cool4me4_	That's a registered nick
21:53	frogcrush	lol
21:53	_2cool4me4_	My nick is also registered.
21:53	_2cool4me4_	MY NICK ONLY
21:55	celeron55	to everyone wondering FPSes: minetest has an FPS cap of 60 by default, and it will dynamically set the rendering range to such that it does at least 30 (see minetest.conf.example for options)
21:55	frogcrush	Thanks!
21:55	NekoGloop	ok where the hell do i get direct3d9?
21:56	celeron55	if you have windows, you have it; the problem you are most likely having is that the MinGW builds of irrlicht don't have direct3d support
21:56	NekoGloop	(or any driver that fixes inventory images culling the wrong image)
21:57	celeron55	msvc builds of irrlicht have it 8)
21:57	NekoGloop	celeron55: ok so how do i fix it?
21:57	keegaan	is VanessaE here?
21:57	celeron55	NekoGloop: what are you using now?
21:57	NekoGloop	opengl is what i use
21:58	celeron55	but what build of minetest
21:58	NekoGloop	0.4.2-rc1, what else?
21:58	VanessaE_	I am here, sortq
21:58	VanessaE_	sorta.
21:58	celeron55	aren't sfan5's minetest builds made with MSVC?
21:58	celeron55	(no idea)
21:58	NekoGloop	3b43c69 is the build
21:58	keegaan	never mind i was gonna ask you to help me build minetest
21:58	celeron55	my releases certainly are, but those development builds aren't
21:59	celeron55	(because it's reasier to build with a cross-mingw compiler)
21:59	NekoGloop	your blog release cant use direct3d9 either
21:59	VanessaE_	keegaan: sowwy
21:59	celeron55	NekoGloop: 0.4.2-rc1 isn't a release :P
21:59	keegaan	is there one already built
21:59	celeron55	(or it's a development release)
22:00	NekoGloop	but you compiled it with msvc, correct?
22:00	_2cool4me4_	What the? I found a wire called "you hacker you"
22:01	frogcrush	Yeah, 300+ fps
22:01	frogcrush	_2cool4me4_: A wire?
22:01	_2cool4me4_	A mesecon wire
22:01	NekoGloop	mesecons
22:01	frogcrush	ic
22:01	_2cool4me4_	VanessaE: explain the you hacker you wire plox
22:01	NekoGloop	you gave yourself a wire that you arent supposed to have
22:01	_2cool4me4_	what does it do
22:01	VanessaE_	_2cool4me4_: ask c55, he started that joke ;-)
22:01	NekoGloop	i have no idea, what does it look like?
22:02	_2cool4me4_	I hate it when this happens...
22:02	VanessaE_	and besides, it means you ain't supposed to use it :-)
22:02	_2cool4me4_	why no?
22:02	NekoGloop	there's many things in mesecons with "you hacker you" as their description
22:02	VanessaE_	because there's likely something more correct
22:02	Splizard	NekoGloop: your gates mod creates open and closed gate nodes for every direction, while you can just use facedir param and only need one open and closed gate node
22:02	NekoGloop	Splizard: blame xdoors
22:02	_2cool4me4_	VanessaE_: it's insulated...
22:03	_2cool4me4_	But it doesn't look so
22:03	VanessaE_	_2cool4me4_: eh?  /me looks at the code
22:03	NekoGloop	_2cool4me4_: its the insulated reciever
22:03	_2cool4me4_	But it looks like a normal piece
22:03	NekoGloop	...
22:03	_2cool4me4_	SO, cured insulated wires soon?
22:03	NekoGloop	i dont care
22:03	NekoGloop	I DONT CARE
22:03	_2cool4me4_	curved*
22:03	_2cool4me4_	Neko, calm
22:04	NekoGloop	NO
22:04	VanessaE_	cured?
22:04	NekoGloop	YOU CANT MAKE Me
22:04	VanessaE_	what?
22:04	* nekokicker	kicks neko
22:04	frogcrush	lol
22:04	Splizard	NekoGloop: do you want me to fix that?
22:05	NekoGloop	sure :P
22:05	_2cool4me4_	VanessaE_: I meant Curved!
22:05	* NekoGloop	kicks 2cool
22:05	_2cool4me4_	ow!
22:05	keegaan	does anyone have a 0.4.2 r1 compiled version that i can have?
22:05	_2cool4me4_	what distro again?
22:06	keegaan	linux
22:06	frogcrush	celeron5: Thanks for adding the FPS cap. Disabled it, got 300-390 FPS, but my CPU went 60C
22:06	frogcrush	*celeron55
22:06	_2cool4me4_	60 degrees? wow
22:06	OldCoder	_2cool4me4_, He wants Ubuntu or Mint
22:07	_2cool4me4_	wimpy cpu
22:07	frogcrush	lol ikr?
22:07	frogcrush	My cooling is not ideal
22:07	_2cool4me4_	frogcrush:mine is at a toasty warm 75C
22:07	NekoGloop	i just burned my hand on my computer
22:07	frogcrush	Mine is usually around 50C
22:08	frogcrush	my hard drive gets up to 60C
22:08	* frogcrush	curses old hard drives
22:08	_2cool4me4_	I only get up to 40C max
22:08	_2cool4me4_	Running at 36
22:08	_2cool4me4_	and this is a laptop
22:08	frogcrush	I never let it get up past 75
22:08	frogcrush	I pull the cord
22:09	frogcrush	So I cant have it OC'd which sux
22:09	_2cool4me4_	I would shut down, but whatever you want
22:09	frogcrush	But 6 3.3GHz cores arent that bad
22:09	frogcrush	And yeah, I try
22:09	_2cool4me4_	mother of...
22:09	_2cool4me4_	Y U WANT MORE
22:09	frogcrush	Hmm?
22:09	MiJyn	?
22:09	_2cool4me4_	Why would you want more?
22:10	frogcrush	More what?
22:10	frogcrush	Power?
22:10	_2cool4me4_	yep
22:10	frogcrush	Dunno
22:10	frogcrush	ITS A PROBLEM :(
22:10	frogcrush	jk jk
22:10	_2cool4me4_	we are here to help
22:10	NekoGloop	unable*
22:10	* NekoGloop	flees
22:10	* _2cool4me4_	runs after neko and kicks him
22:11	* NekoGloop	ran faster
22:11	NekoGloop	you missed
22:11	* _2cool4me4_	shuts down Neko
22:11	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuEOngztjw&amp;feature=related :D
22:11	_2cool4me4_	bad robot kitty
22:11	* frogcrush	shoots arrow at neko's knee
22:11	NekoGloop	I'm not a robot
22:11	* _2cool4me4_	slaps NekoGloop with a rainbow trout
22:11	_2cool4me4_	yes you are
22:12	* frogcrush	loves homeschooling funding
22:12	frogcrush	wrong channel
22:12	_2cool4me4_	lolwat
22:12	NekoGloop	good 4 u
22:12	NekoGloop	have a cookie
22:12	* NekoGloop	gives frogcruah a cookie
22:13	_2cool4me4_	Tsk tsk neko, bad ping
22:13	NekoGloop	[18:13] _2cool4me4_ [~IceChat77138.sub-97-202-189.myvzw.com] requested CTCP PING from NekoGloop: 91858879
22:13	* frogcrush	thanks neko
22:13	NekoGloop	doesnt look bad to me
22:13	NekoGloop	ofc i just get random numbers, like always
22:13	_2cool4me4_	[17:12] [NekoGloop PING Reply] : 1.186 seconds
22:13	NekoGloop	so I'm a whole second off?
22:13	_2cool4me4_	yep
22:14	NekoGloop	not surprised, youtube & minetest are running simulatneously
22:14	_2cool4me4_	but it's okay, I'm still waiting for a reply from myself
22:14	NekoGloop	those two fight for cpu :P
22:14	frogcrush	I see Minetest only runs on one core
22:14	NekoGloop	And i still remember you saying you pinged yourself 2cool
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22:15	NekoGloop	for i in ipairs(i_dont_give_a_shit) do give_a_shit() end
22:15	NekoGloop	paradox code
22:15	NekoGloop	:D
22:16	celeron55	hmm, i don't remember how lua handles modifying tables while iterating them
22:16	_2cool4me4_	google it
22:17	NekoGloop	no, for every time you dont give a shit it gives a shit
22:17	NekoGloop	paradox code
22:19	_2cool4me4_	Restart minetest...
22:20	NekoGloop	why?
22:20	keegaan	how do you ceck your temp. on windows?
22:21	celeron55	NekoGloop: but that actually runs in finite time unless you have infinite memory (you don't), and the only thing it does is gives a shit for everything you didn't already give a shit for!
22:21	NekoGloop	MiJyn: what's my ping?
22:21	MiJyn	* Ping reply from NekoGloop: ? second(s)
22:21	VanessaE_	PINGFLOOD NEKO!!
22:21	VanessaE_	* Ping reply from NekoGloop: 0.71 second(s)
22:21	NekoGloop	-_-
22:21	NekoGloop	cool
22:22	MiJyn	* Ping reply from NekoGloop: 0.72 second(s)
22:22	VanessaE_	:)
22:22	NekoGloop	i stopped mietest :D
22:22	MiJyn	hmm
22:22	MiJyn	my own ping is 0.47
22:22	MiJyn	so it took .2 seconds to send, and .27 seconds to receive...
22:22	_2cool4me4_	Do wires hooked up to microcontrollers on non controlled ports still cause lag
22:23	Splizard	NekoGloop: http://pastebin.com/TwycNukR
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22:23	_2cool4me4_	sbi(C, A&D)  If I hooked something up to B, would it cause lag?
22:23	VanessaE_	_2cool4me4_: dunno, never tested for that, but I do know the faster a µC runs, the more lag it'll introduce :-)
22:23	_2cool4me4_	Is that an oxymoron?
22:23	NekoGloop	yes and no
22:24	NekoGloop	see-what-i-did-there
22:24	_2cool4me4_	Oh, puhleaze
22:24	VanessaE_	nope.  If you, for example, use one to generate a clock, the server will lag more as you make the clock go faster
22:28	_2cool4me4_	Ohhh
22:28	_2cool4me4_	I have a crapton of them in this ALU right now
22:28	_2cool4me4_	I'd like to see the whole computer
22:28	VanessaE_	(up to 60Hz, at which point the µC of course overheats and pops out)
22:29	_2cool4me4_	CRAP
22:29	_2cool4me4_	I've been doing all this for nothing
22:29	VanessaE_	a crapton?  that's nothing.  you'll be fine once you get up to roughly "metric assload" vicinity :-)
22:29	_2cool4me4_	oh lol
22:29	VanessaE_	once/until*
22:31	NekoGloop	adding stone gates, because stone is awesome
22:33	_2cool4me4_	There, zeroing and negating done
22:34	_2cool4me4_	Phew! This ALU doesn't run on signed numbers
22:34	NekoGloop	ofc not
22:35	_2cool4me4_	ofc?
22:36	NekoGloop	of course
22:36	_2cool4me4_	how you know
22:36	NekoGloop	because what for you have that?
22:36	_2cool4me4_	idk what you just said
22:37	NekoGloop	neither do i :D
22:37	VanessaE_	I don't understand either of you two :-)
22:37	NekoGloop	I'm making mesecons effect steel gates :D
22:37	VanessaE_	you're going to make mesecons signals create gates?
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22:38	NekoGloop	no...
22:38	VanessaE_	:)
22:38	NekoGloop	mesecons signal will open a steel gates
22:38	VanessaE_	effect/affect :-)
22:38	NekoGloop	w/e
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22:41	NekoGloop	join spam much?
22:42	_2cool4me4_	naw
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22:43	UbuntuNerd_	Hello
22:44	VanessaE_	hi
22:44	MiJyn	hi
22:45	_2cool4me4_	Now, How do I make this AND?
22:45	_2cool4me4_	I've mesecon'd myself into a bad situation
22:45	VanessaE_	abi(out, in1&in2) where out, in1, and in2 are the ports you want to use.
22:45	VanessaE_	er, abi()
22:45	VanessaE_	DAMN IT.
22:45	VanessaE_	sbi().
22:45	_2cool4me4_	vanessa, that's not what I meant
22:46	_2cool4me4_	I meant the wiring
22:46	VanessaE_	oh
22:47	UbuntuNerd_	Vanessa do you play minetest or do you just make mods and textures for it?
22:47	VanessaE_	both
22:47	UbuntuNerd_	do you play on servers?
22:47	VanessaE_	I just spend the last few hours helping rebuild on redcrab's server
22:48	UbuntuNerd_	what happened?
22:48	frogcrush	Ouch
22:48	_2cool4me4_	BACKUPS PEOPLE
22:48	VanessaE_	the server's hard drive got full, so the mapgen went haywire and started replacing stuff with newly-generated land.
22:48	UbuntuNerd_	ouch damn
22:49	VanessaE_	from the last maps I saw, it looked like about 10% of the used land got wiped out
22:49	VanessaE_	lots of damage
22:49	UbuntuNerd_	thats why my servers have a 2 TB harddrive
22:50	UbuntuNerd_	why cant i connect to redcrabs server?
22:50	_2cool4me4_	prolly down for rebuild
22:51	VanessaE_	it needs latest git
22:51	_2cool4me4_	or that
22:51	VanessaE_	as in today's latest.
22:51	UbuntuNerd_	i get a error
22:51	* frogcrush	wishes he could have a 2TB hdd
22:51	UbuntuNerd_	i have 3
22:51	* frogcrush	is jealous
22:51	VanessaE_	UbuntuNerd_: you get either a server protocol error or something about the inventory, right?
22:51	UbuntuNerd_	yea inventory
22:52	VanessaE_	your copy is too old.
22:52	UbuntuNerd_	what do you  mean?
22:52	VanessaE_	just what I said. :-)
22:52	VanessaE_	redcrab's server requires yesterday's update at the very least.
22:52	UbuntuNerd_	the version is to old
22:52	UbuntuNerd_	were do i download it github
22:53	_2cool4me4_	many lag to me
22:53	frogcrush	I should make a simple app that downloads and builds the latest :D
22:53	frogcrush	C# CONSOLE FTW
22:53	VanessaE_	UbuntuNerd_: either install the nightly builds PPA, or go here and build it:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master
22:54	_2cool4me4_	hrm, need to AND these 32 stacked inputs
22:54	_2cool4me4_	this gonna be good
22:54	VanessaE_	or if your machine has the GPU for it, run my build:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40800#p40800
22:55	UbuntuNerd_	ok ill compile it later
22:55	UbuntuNerd_	cyah all later
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22:56	NekoGloop	oh look, mr. griefer is back
22:56	keegaan	Hey LandMine
22:57	keegaan	NekoGloop stop being mean
22:57	LandMine	hi keegan
22:57	LandMine	im remaking the map
22:57	keegaan	ok
22:57	_2cool4me4_	does Minetest stop rendering when it loses focus?
22:57	VanessaE_	no
22:57	_2cool4me4_	(windows)
22:57	VanessaE_	at least not in linux.
22:57	LandMine	almost done will post it tommorow....cause im not home
22:58	LandMine	VanessaE is there a way to fix the light after removing  some land with worldedit?
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22:58	keegaan	hey Octupus
22:59	LandMine	cause its all shady
22:59	Octupus	good afternoon
22:59	LandMine	i remember there was amod for it
22:59	VanessaE_	LandMine: sorta
23:00	VanessaE_	use //set to add some dirt or something, then //dig to remove iut
23:00	VanessaE_	(always use //dig instead of //replace <node> air )
23:00	_2cool4me4_	The beginnings: http://tinypic.com/r/33beg6e/6
23:00	VanessaE_	see if that helps
23:00	NekoGloop	or place torches everywhere
23:00	LandMine	and that removes the shades? thanks will try tommorow cause im not home
23:02	LandMine	keegaan the one im making now is way better and u wont be able to fall cause of the removed clouds
23:02	keegaan	ok
23:03	LandMine	yah its pretty boss......
23:03	_2cool4me4_	That's the second time I've set the wrong thing to air today
23:05	NekoGloop	lol
23:05	LandMine	lol
23:06	LandMine	theres no way to revert it right?
23:06	NekoGloop	unless you crash minetest so it doesnt save :D
23:07	LandMine	mine crashes when i wanna //set a 250x250 area
23:07	LandMine	other than that is ok
23:09	NekoGloop	i made cobble gates! :D
23:09	NekoGloop	now i just need cobble fences
23:09	frogcrush	congratz :)
23:10	frogcrush	Am I the only one who thinks it would be cool for addons to have a more formal download center?
23:10		LandMine_ joined #minetest
23:11	NakedFury	no not the only one
23:11		Splizard left #minetest
23:12	frogcrush	Who maintains the website?
23:12	NekoGloop	c55 i think
23:12	NekoGloop	(minetest.net)
23:13	frogcrush	What about the .com?
23:13	VanessaE_	.com is Deathdealer's site and is not affiliated.
23:13	NekoGloop	nobody: its old and outdated
23:13	frogcrush	o
23:13	VanessaE_	(except for the wiki I think?)
23:14	frogcrush	I would think more ppl would go to the .com than the .net
23:14		Isabella joined #minetest
23:14	frogcrush	At least the .net is ranked higher
23:15	Isabella	yawn... i start school tomorrow
23:15	NakedFury	congratulations
23:15	NekoGloop	good for you
23:15	NakedFury	I started august 15
23:15	Isabella	thx
23:15	frogcrush	ouch
23:15	Isabella	wow early
23:15	VanessaE_	"They're going BACK!"
23:15	VanessaE_	:-)
23:15	NekoGloop	i started 6 weeks ago
23:15	frogcrush	Ive been doin school all summer
23:15	Isabella	wow
23:16	frogcrush	thats what happens when ur lazy and dont do your work and homeshcool :D
23:16	VanessaE_	am I ever glad I don't have to worry about school anymore, not for the last 20 years :-)
23:16	Isabella	hahaha
23:16	NekoGloop	shaddup
23:16	NekoGloop	:D
23:16	frogcrush	lol
23:16	Isabella	i am so tired though
23:17	Isabella	like i could fall alseep on my pc
23:17	VanessaE_	"No more pencils, no more books! No more teacher's dirty looks!"
23:17	NekoGloop	currently: wood, cobble, steel gates(can only be opened with mesecons)
23:17	Isabella	hahaha
23:17	NekoGloop	er...
23:17	NekoGloop	wood and cobble can be opened by punching
23:17	NekoGloop	steel cant
23:17	Isabella	:-)
23:17	frogcrush	Isabella: Your name keeps making me think of Phineas and Ferb
23:17	frogcrush	;)
23:17	Isabella	why???
23:17	NekoGloop	oh god no
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23:18	cosarara97	Isabella: Because in Phineas and Ferb there's a girl called Isabella
23:18	Isabella	oh yea
23:18	frogcrush	And loves to go, "Whatcha dooooin?"
23:18	VanessaE	there.
23:18	Isabella	yea :)
23:18	VanessaE	be gone insolent devil underscore :-)
23:18	NekoGloop	splizard's nodeboxes were also implemented
23:19	NekoGloop	now... any other materials before i release?
23:19	VanessaE	no. :-)
23:19	NekoGloop	ok
23:21	Isabella	what about mese
23:21	VanessaE	no
23:21	frogcrush	How do you pronounce that? Mese...
23:21	VanessaE	mese should remain special.
23:21	VanessaE	"mees" like "fleece"
23:21	VanessaE	at least that's how I pronounce it.
23:21	NekoGloop	me-s
23:22	frogcrush	Cool
23:23	NekoGloop	VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40875#p40875 requesting move ;)
23:23	Isabella	lol
23:23	VanessaE	what's with these ridiculously tiny thumbnails? :-)
23:23	NekoGloop	omploader
23:23	NekoGloop	anyway they're outdated
23:23	NekoGloop	from ver. 1.0
23:24	VanessaE	put some new ones up :-)
23:24	NekoGloop	splizard's nodeboxes are in 1.1
23:24	VanessaE	and btw, you don't need to use thumbnails with ompldr.
23:24	NekoGloop	fine, fine :D
23:24	VanessaE	you can link to full-size images too
23:24	NekoGloop	how do i do that?
23:25	VanessaE	simple:
23:25	VanessaE	[img]http://ompldr.org/vZmNudg.jpg[/img]
23:25	VanessaE	don't wrap it in [url] tabs.
23:25	VanessaE	tags.
23:25	VanessaE	i.e. don't do this:  [url=http://ompldr.org/vZmNudg][img]http://ompldr.org/tZmNudg[/img][/url]
23:25	VanessaE	do the above instead.
23:26	NekoGloop	k
23:28	NekoGloop	now i've updated & fixed screenshots
23:29	VanessaE	better.
23:30	NekoGloop	ok... so y u no move it? :D
23:30	VanessaE	Strange, it looks to me like it's in Mod Releases already ;)
23:31	frogcrush	bai all
23:31	NekoGloop	oh
23:31	NekoGloop	refreshing the webpage does nothing to minetest.net for some reason, i forgot :)
23:32	NekoGloop	that was the most intellectual quit message ever
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23:33	NekoGloop	VanessaE: i think you'd like the gates, try them out sometime
23:34	VanessaE	I might consider it :
23:34	VanessaE	:D
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23:36	NekoGloop	now if only there were steel and cobble fences to go with my gates
23:37	VanessaE	there are.   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=543
23:37	VanessaE	dunno if that mod still works though
23:37	NekoGloop	oh right
23:37	NekoGloop	but i meant xfences
23:39	VanessaE	eh.
23:40	NekoGloop	i forgot how to craft a button
23:40	NekoGloop	switch*
23:41	VanessaE	ok, time for you to fork xfences too ;-)
23:41	NekoGloop	xfences isnt on github
23:41	VanessaE	so download it, tweak it, upload the result
23:41	NekoGloop	i know
23:41	VanessaE	doesn't really have to be a true fork, per se
23:42	NekoGloop	i could do that if i werent lazy as hell
23:42	VanessaE	and, btw, it is:
23:42	VanessaE	https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods
23:42	NekoGloop	ok?
23:42	VanessaE	( https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods/tree/master/xfences )
23:42	_2cool4me4_	Okay... now I should be able to AND these...
23:42	NekoGloop	how do i craft a switch?
23:42	VanessaE	um..
23:43	VanessaE	good question! :-)
23:43	_2cool4me4_	use creative
23:43	VanessaE	- - -
23:43	VanessaE	S C S
23:43	VanessaE	M - M
23:43	NekoGloop	I'm playing my mock-survival world
23:43	VanessaE	C = Cobble, S = Steel, M = mesecon wire
23:43	NekoGloop	damn I'm out of steel
23:44	NekoGloop	wait no i'm not
23:44	NekoGloop	i just left it in the furnace
23:44	VanessaE	for a wall lever,
23:44	VanessaE	- Mesecon -
23:44	VanessaE	-  Stone  -
23:44	VanessaE	-  Stick  -
23:44	VanessaE	http://mesecons.net23.net/items.html
23:45		LandMine joined #minetest
23:45	_2cool4me4_	This ALU may be suprisingly compact! :D
23:45	LandMine	cool now stfu
23:46	VanessaE	that reminds me, does anyone have a copy of the texture file I used to make this?   http://mesecons.net23.net/textures/mesecon_insulated.png
23:46	VanessaE	(I lost my copy and github doesn't seem to have it either)
23:46	_2cool4me4_	landmine. I...I
23:46	* _2cool4me4_	begins crying
23:47	LandMine	umad?
23:48	_2cool4me4_	VanessaE, why is landmine so mean?
23:48	VanessaE	I dunno
23:49	LandMine	u fail  2cool kill urself
23:49	_2cool4me4_	uhh
23:49	_2cool4me4_	Hmm
23:50	_2cool4me4_	well, now that suicidal thoughts aren't in my head
23:50	NekoGloop	that's not his ip at all
23:50	NekoGloop	he may be able to change it but he cant change the first two parts
23:51	_2cool4me4_	Well, I feel bad now
23:51	_2cool4me4_	I'ma do a whois
23:52	RealBadAngel	do whowas
23:52	_2cool4me4_	somewhere in Mexico?
23:52	VanessaE	evening RBA.
23:52	RealBadAngel	hi ho
23:52	VanessaE	_2cool4me4_: he uses a proxy based there, no doubt
23:52	_2cool4me4_	ahh
23:53	Isabella	lol
23:53	_2cool4me4_	crap
23:53	Isabella	what?
23:53	* Isabella	is confused
23:53	RealBadAngel	dont think it was a proxy
23:53	_2cool4me4_	I would like to know something about who that was
23:53	Isabella	huh?
23:53	RealBadAngel	last part it was his ip
23:53	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: he claims to have 100+ IP's at his command.
23:54	_2cool4me4_	That's illegal
23:54		LandMine joined #minetest
23:54	NekoGloop	he lives in mexico dont he?
23:54	Isabella	im soooooo tired!!!!!!!!
23:54	_2cool4me4_	/expensive
23:54	Isabella	gotta go :P bye
23:54	LandMine	lol neko
23:54	Isabella	starting school tommorow!!
23:54	Isabella	byes
23:55	RealBadAngel	IP AddressCountryRegionCityISP
23:55	RealBadAngel	201.141.68.206MexicoDistrito FederalMexico CityCablevision S.a. De C.v.
23:55	_2cool4me4_	I've seen it
23:55	LandMine	vpn buddy :)
23:55	LandMine	ask vannesa
23:55	_2cool4me4_	I'm watching u landmine
23:55		Octupuslegs joined #minetest
23:56	VanessaE	don't look at me, I have nothing to do with whatever he uses.
23:56	LandMine	yeah well fuck u
23:56	Octupuslegs	MRTUX
23:56	Octupuslegs	hello miseal
23:56	mrtux	wat
23:56	Octupuslegs	i left some thing on the forum sight
23:56	RealBadAngel	vpn or whatever
23:56	LandMine	2cool i hear ur incest......hi octupus
23:56	RealBadAngel	ban it
23:56	Octupuslegs	yours topic about the server
23:56		Keegann joined #minetest
23:56	Octupuslegs	can u read it pwease
23:56	Keegann	stop picking on LandMine
23:57	Octupuslegs	lol thats the first thing keegans says Hi keegan
23:57	LandMine	lol
23:57	LandMine	yeah we are bff now
23:57	Octupuslegs	cool
23:57	_2cool4me4_	Keegan: We picking on him now?
23:57		bas080 left #minetest
23:57	_2cool4me4_	Hmm?
23:57	LandMine	im as sweet as honey now
23:57	_2cool4me4_	I kick ur face
23:57	Octupuslegs	so y were u cussing out vannessa
23:58	Keegann	me?
23:58	Octupuslegs	no Lm
23:58	LandMine	cause im secretly in love with her
23:58	RealBadAngel	http://webchat.freenode.net/ and his ip
23:58	Octupuslegs	XD
23:58	LandMine	yup
23:58	RealBadAngel	those two shall be banned
23:58	Octupuslegs	ME?
23:58	_2cool4me4_	Landmine:  cool now stfu
23:58	Keegann	nope
23:58	_2cool4me4_	y u mean to me?
23:59	_2cool4me4_	*exact quote8
23:59	Octupuslegs	mrtux did u read it?
23:59	mrtux	yes
23:59	mrtux	no
23:59	NekoGloop	maybe?
23:59	mrtux	i'm busy
23:59	LandMine	2cool when u were concieved was it considered beastiality?

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