Time  Nick            Message
00:15 ecube           What does xfences do?
00:20 VanessaE        it draws fences using nodeboxes instead of the fencelike draw type.  mostly so they can connect to neighboring objects
00:20 ecube           Ah.
00:21 ecube           how does it work?
00:21 ecube           nvm that
00:21 VanessaE        not sure, I've only ever seen it in use on redcrab's server
00:21 ecube           Does it correct the collideboxes?
00:21 ecube           Like, does it make the collision box realisitc?
00:21 ecube           *realistic
00:22 VanessaE        I think so actually
00:22 VanessaE        by virtue of being made with nodeboxes
00:22 VanessaE        but it has a minor bug: you have to shift-jump to get over/onyo it
00:22 VanessaE        onto*
00:25 ecube           That's a nodebox bug, unfortunately
00:27 VanessaE        *nod* so I assumed
00:51 * VanessaE      pokes NekoGloop with a cookie
00:52 NekoGloop       >.<
00:52 NekoGloop       gimme that
00:52 * NekoGloop     takes the cookie
00:52 * NekoGloop     eats it
00:52 VanessaE        nom :-)
00:52 NekoGloop       anyway, congrats on getting your mods merged to default
00:52 VanessaE        thanks :-)
00:52 * VanessaE      does a happy dance again
00:53 NekoGloop       lol
00:54 NekoGloop       now, its more reasonable to do my potions idea
00:54 VanessaE        yep!
00:54 NekoGloop       although that's still nigh on impossible
00:54 VanessaE        why?
00:55 NekoGloop       potions... there's not a good way to implement effects from lua
00:55 VanessaE        oh right
00:55 VanessaE        maybe c55 will add something for that
00:56 NekoGloop       lets keep our hopes up
00:57 NekoGloop       in the meantime... lets get gates figured out.
00:57 VanessaE        right
00:57 NekoGloop       I'm modding xdoors code
00:57 VanessaE        I think khon. is well on the way to that
00:57 VanessaE        oh those kind of gates
00:57 NekoGloop       oh?
00:57 NekoGloop       lol
00:57 NekoGloop       :D
00:58 VanessaE        I read "gates" as logic gates :-)
00:58 NekoGloop       i need to shrink xdoors into gates
00:58 NekoGloop       ohai 2cool
00:58 VanessaE        evening 2cool
01:01 NekoGloop       VanessaE: mind helping me pick apart xdoors's nodeboxes? that's all i need to change :)
01:02 VanessaE        er...
01:02 VanessaE        um...
01:02 VanessaE        :)
01:02 VanessaE        *looks innocent*
01:03 NekoGloop       i just need some way to make xdoors look like gates.
01:03 VanessaE        with nodeboxes I have to do a lot of trial and error
01:04 NekoGloop       well i just want something that will connect to xfences properly basically.
01:04 NekoGloop       as far as closed gates go, they can just be a single nodebox as far as i care
01:05 NekoGloop       just want open ones to properly be two nodeboxes on either side of the node
01:05 VanessaE        eh
01:05 NekoGloop       as far as the wizardry making all this happen in the code, leave that up to me.
01:05 VanessaE        not having looked at xfences code or enough of gates to know the nodebox defs, I'm kinda not the right one to ask :-)
01:06 NekoGloop       :l
01:06 NekoGloop       ok
01:19 VanessaE        evening keegan
01:19 VanessaE        get the ubuntu issue figured out?
01:20 Keegan1         no i just have linux mint
01:20 Keegan1         now
01:20 VanessaE        oh ok
01:20 NekoGloop       lets see... now i have gates (i think)
01:20 VanessaE        a current version of it?
01:20 Keegan1         when i install wine this thing appears n termnal
01:20 Keegan1         and i cant do anything
01:21 VanessaE        what thing?
01:21 NekoGloop       minetest is now loading... lets see if my gates work
01:21 Keegan1         this http://pastebin.com/FHQSksVT
01:21 VanessaE        <NekoGloop> "Some exception - FUCK YOU!!"
01:21 Keegan1         i cant get it off of there
01:22 VanessaE        Keegan1: hit tab and then enter.
01:22 VanessaE        tab will highlight the <Ok> and Enter will "click" it.
01:22 Keegan1         oh thanks
01:22 NekoGloop       VanessaE: no, it's "some exception: fuck off"
01:22 Keegan1         wow i thought it was stuck there
01:22 VanessaE        LOL!
01:23 NekoGloop       anyway, on the point
01:23 VanessaE        Keegan1: hehe no, that's a common hang-up.
01:23 NekoGloop       placing a gate crashes the game now :P
01:23 VanessaE        Keegan1: important:  always mumble to yourself "Fuck off" whenever you "agree" to a EULA like that one :-)
01:24 NekoGloop       dont suggest it, he'll do it
01:24 Keegan1         i di it anyways
01:24 Keegan1         do
01:25 VanessaE        it's an EULA, so mumbling "fuck you" or "fuck off" when you "agree" to it is always the right thing to do :-)
01:25 VanessaE        EULAs are stupid and the people who propose them should be shot :-)
01:25 NekoGloop       ok gates is being retarded
01:26 NekoGloop       want to see the unedited code from xdoors that's being exceptionally stupid?
01:26 VanessaE        oh so appropriate.  "IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This Microsoft End-User License Agreement [...]" and "Gates" is being retarded
01:26 NekoGloop       er... i've got it
01:26 NekoGloop       LOL VanessaE
01:27 NekoGloop       would that be bill gates?
01:27 NekoGloop       :D
01:27 VanessaE        you can post it but I can't guarantee I'll be able to understand it :D
01:27 NekoGloop       no I figured it out
01:28 NekoGloop       i tried to perform a math function on a table
01:28 * NekoGloop     facepalm
01:29 NekoGloop       oh cool i just need 4 more items... let's see, how many variants of gates can i make...
01:29 VanessaE        heh
01:30 NekoGloop       i hate infinite sound glitches
01:32 NekoGloop       some exception: we hate you
01:33 NekoGloop       there's one good thing about the some exception error
01:34 NekoGloop       i have to restart minetest, and that allows me to free up whatever amount of space debug.txt is taking up
01:34 VanessaE        hhaha
01:34 NekoGloop       now, gates are currently nonfunctional, but dont glitch/crash
01:35 NekoGloop       ok now they crash
01:35 VanessaE        lol
01:35 leo_rockway     NekoGloop: why do you have to wait to restart to free up the space of debug.txt? o.0
01:35 NekoGloop       forgot a set of curly braces
01:35 NekoGloop       leo_rockway: "this file is in use, stop any programs that may be using it"
01:36 leo_rockway     oh, Windows?
01:36 leo_rockway     in *nix you can truncate the file
01:36 leo_rockway     (while it is still in use)
01:37 leo_rockway     I thought the same could be done in Windows.
01:37 NekoGloop       nope
01:37 NekoGloop       then you dont crash any programs with the file open
01:38 VanessaE        bbl.  bedtime
01:40 NekoGloop       night vanessae
01:43 NekoGloop       ... gates, y u no work?
01:48 NekoGloop       param2 is userdata? 0.o
01:50 NekoGloop       some exception my ass
01:52 NekoGloop       celeron55: can you explain to me what userdata is and how to get a number out of it? (e.g. param2)
01:56 * khonkhortisan slaps /you with a large trout
01:56 NekoGloop       cool
01:57 NekoGloop       can you help me with a fence gate?
01:57 NekoGloop       such a thing should prove trivial to someone who can understand mesecons :)
01:59 NekoGloop       khonkhortisan: can you help me with a fence gate?
02:00 NekoGloop       thexyz: you there?
02:14 NekoGloop       anyone want to help me make fence gates?
02:15 Uberi           NekoGloop: like the gates mod by splizard?
02:16 Uberi           I think it's pretty much what you're looking for
02:16 NekoGloop       yes except working
02:16 NekoGloop       ever tried his mod on 0.4.2-rc1?
02:16 NekoGloop       crash whenever you place anything
02:17 Uberi           NekoGloop: I worked on Gates for a while, I'll take a look
02:17 NekoGloop       alright
02:17 Uberi           NekoGloop: mind giving the error?
02:17 NekoGloop       no error it just dont work
02:18 NekoGloop       hold on, pastebining right now
02:18 Uberi           thanks
02:19 NekoGloop       http://pastebin.com/AGfxREvU smack that in a folder called "gates", add a depends.txt with only default, and craft one like seen at the bottom of the code.
02:19 NekoGloop       obviously edited from xdoors
02:19 NekoGloop       (as seen at the top)
02:21 NekoGloop       Uberi: do you see what doesnt work?
02:24 NekoGloop       ok then
02:24 Uberi|Away      yep NekoGloop will investigate
02:24 NekoGloop       oh
02:24 NekoGloop       ok :)
02:30 NekoGloop       uberi|away: is it something impossibly stupid that i should have seen?
02:50 NekoGloop       uberi|away: I've got a solution. Now i only need the visual part to work ;)
03:03 NekoGloop       well... these are being amazingly uncooperative
03:23 Uberi           hi VanessaE!
03:23 Uberi           NekoGloop: what was the solution?
03:24 NekoGloop       use on_punch instead of xyz's roundabout method
03:24 NekoGloop       now i jsut need nodebox help
03:24 NekoGloop       just*
03:24 Uberi           thanks NekoGloop
03:24 NekoGloop       what?
03:25 Uberi           that was the problem
03:25 NekoGloop       sorry for making you waste your time on something as trivial as that. :P
03:25 Uberi           xgates? haven't seen that one yet
03:26 NekoGloop       well the "x" stuff means its xyz's mod
03:26 NekoGloop       although most of the code used is his, its not entirely his
03:27 Uberi           yeah xdoors seems to use some of zlp's code
03:27 NekoGloop       the code i sent you was already modded by me :)
03:27 Uberi           nice
03:27 NekoGloop       it had parts from xpanes in it
03:28 NekoGloop       (for the drawing, i needed some placeholder)
03:30 NekoGloop       now to make the things look a bit more gate-like
03:30 NekoGloop       er... actually... let's go to sleep :)
03:36 keegaan         good night
03:49 khonkhortisan   aw I missed Uberi
07:36 goebbels        hey all
07:36 goebbels        are finnish song lyrics ok?
08:13 RealBadAngel    hi
08:13 goebbels        HIø!
08:15 goebbels        RealBadAngel: why are all PL truckers thieves and bad guys?
08:16 goebbels        and the most importantly, unable to drive trucks
08:16 RealBadAngel    lol, i dont know personally any truck driver :P
08:18 RealBadAngel    on the other hand i doubt you know all the polish drivers
08:18 goebbels        RealBadAngel: did you know that the Great Minetest Leader is a finnish nerd?
08:19 goebbels        and has long hair
08:19 RealBadAngel    so what?
08:19 goebbels        did you know that?
08:19 RealBadAngel    that he has long hair? nope
08:20 goebbels        ok
08:20 goebbels        now you know
08:20 goebbels        he's my neigbour
08:20 goebbels        +h
08:20 goebbels        now he's carrying out his 12 months long duty to the State
08:21 goebbels        so he can't fully focus on the game
08:22 goebbels        en
08:24 RealBadAngel    i feel enlightened then
08:25 RealBadAngel    btw some1 told you before, that your nick, name of the men responisble for killing milions, is less say an offence for polish folks?
08:28 goebbels        tell it to this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiner_Goebbels
08:28 goebbels        Goebbels was not responsible of the killings
08:28 goebbels        read some history
08:29 goebbels        Heiner Goebbels is a composer and not a murderer
08:29 RealBadAngel    read some history, indeed
08:29 goebbels        RealBadAngel: how many WW2 victims would be saved, if I'd change a nick?
08:30 goebbels        if the answer is 0, then I don't mind to change it
08:32 RealBadAngel    its about the history and memory. if you dont understand it... im not goin to educate you
08:32 goebbels        RealBadAngel: how were you a victim of the national sozialism?
08:32 RealBadAngel    you want names of my familiy members killed in ww2?
08:32 RealBadAngel    dont push it
08:33 goebbels        WW2 had other victims too, not only those in extermination camps
08:33 goebbels        more than 60 million died
08:33 goebbels        do not make yourself a martyr
08:35 RealBadAngel    of what nearly 6 mln was polish
08:35 goebbels        and about 60 million were non-polish?
08:35 goebbels        still you are not a special one or a martyr
08:36 RealBadAngel    and remind me who was responible for that? who was one of the leaders of nazis?
08:37 goebbels        Heiner Goebbels was not responsible for that
08:37 goebbels        I'm his fan
08:38 RealBadAngel    yeah, sure
08:38 RealBadAngel    and all around all idiots
08:39 goebbels        did you know, that Joseph was very intellectual guy?
08:39 goebbels        performing excellent in schools
08:39 goebbels        he was academic guy and a genius
08:41 RealBadAngel    who cares after what he did?
08:41 goebbels        you seem to care
08:42 RealBadAngel    if half of your family would be slagthered durin a war, you could propably understand that
08:44 goebbels        are you jewish?
08:44 goebbels        or just a communist
08:44 goebbels        what I've seen polish people in Finland... I'm not too surprised no one likes them
08:45 goebbels        they are just thieves
08:46 RealBadAngel    after talkin to you, i could propably say that all finnish are ignorant nazi fans. would you like such judgement?
08:46 goebbels        no, because we are not ignorant
08:47 RealBadAngel    just nazi fans?
08:47 goebbels        yes
08:48 RealBadAngel    so i guess that musican was nazi too then, right?
08:48 goebbels        no he wasn't
08:48 RealBadAngel    and youre his fan? how could that be
08:48 goebbels        Goebbels was a common surname, and there are still Goebbels around there
08:48 goebbels        are you an idiot?
08:49 goebbels        being a nazi doesn't mean you can't like other things too
08:49 RealBadAngel    no, im the jewish communistic thief, i drive a truck too
08:50 goebbels        yeah
08:50 RealBadAngel    and you sir, are just a cheap troll
08:50 RealBadAngel    feed yourself, bye
08:50 goebbels        what :O
08:50 goebbels        please no
08:50 goebbels        don't be so angry
08:50 goebbels        I never did anything bad
08:51 goebbels        I've been a messenger of peace
08:56 wei2912         anyone got free time?
08:57 Calinou         wei2912, why?
08:57 wei2912         Calinou, need some building help on a project
08:59 wei2912         i call it crowdsourcing
09:04 wei2912         Calinou, can you place torches with worldedit?
09:07 wei2912         goebbels, maybe you shouldn't have argued with him
09:07 goebbels        why not?
09:08 Calinou         wei2912, yes
09:08 wei2912         <RealBadAngel> btw some1 told you before, that your nick, name of the men responisble for killing milions, is less say an offence for polish folks?
09:08 Calinou         default:torch
09:08 wei2912         Calinou, seems like it'
09:08 wei2912         it's disoriented
09:08 wei2912         lol
09:08 wei2912         goebbels: you should have just acknowledged it
09:08 wei2912         goebbels: you yourself know that that is true
09:09 wei2912         of course he shouldn't have heated the argument to such a high level
09:09 goebbels        Es war mir vergönnt, viele Jahre meines Lebens unter dem größten Sohne zu wirken, den mein Volk in seiner tausendjährigen Geschichte hervorgebracht hat!
09:10 wei2912         i speak no german
09:10 goebbels        there has been a debate to make minetest german-only
09:10 wei2912         what type of debate was that?
09:10 wei2912         it's freaking open source
09:10 wei2912         don't put random restrictions
09:11 goebbels        it's not random
09:11 goebbels        but you have to accept the NSDAP principles
09:11 goebbels        in order to use the software
09:12 wei2912         le sigh
09:12 wei2912         i'm starting to feel that RealBadAngel was right
09:13 goebbels        was right in what matter?
09:14 wei2912         i shall not speak more
09:14 goebbels        Whatever we create today, whatever we do, we will die, but Germany will live on in you.
09:14 goebbels        And when there is nothing left of us, then you must hold in your fists the flags that we hoisted out of nothing.
09:14 goebbels        And I know this cannot be otherwise, because you are the flesh of our flesh and the blood of our blood.
09:14 goebbels        And in your young heads burns the same spirit that rules us.
09:17 wei2912         damnit
09:25 goebbels        wei2912: <3
09:26 wei2912         the symbol of a troll
09:26 goebbels        how about this? 卐
09:26 goebbels        if your sucky irc client / terminal can show it
09:26 wei2912         sigh
09:27 wei2912         i need to install unicode
09:29 wei2912         unicode fonts*
09:29 wei2912         goebbels is truly a troll
09:29 goebbels        no
09:29 goebbels        I'm a developer
09:30 wei2912         let me present you this
09:31 wei2912         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AqHtBLUjgo&playnext=1&list=PL1F2A12D039632DEA&feature=results_main
09:31 goebbels        NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
09:31 wei2912         my friend's hard work
09:31 goebbels        I got a one way ticket to the blues
09:33 goebbels        if The Great Leader hates me for this, I blame you
09:33 wei2912         blame not
09:34 goebbels        The Great Leader not always accepts with my ideas
09:35 wei2912         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5q0ajW8Ko
09:35 goebbels        wei2912: that's a movie, not the real thing
09:35 wei2912         goebbels, thus?
09:42 Calinou         <goebbels> I'm a developer
09:42 Calinou         [citation needed]
09:42 Calinou         lmao goebbels
09:43 goebbels        I once made the infamous C-Bot with The Great Leader
09:44 Calinou         what's that
09:45 wei2912         i made the infamous JavaBot
09:45 wei2912         weird
09:45 wei2912         no one hates me
09:45 wei2912         Calinou, lol
09:46 Calinou         FortranBot
09:46 Calinou         is the best bot
09:47 goebbels        C-Bot was an autonomous IRC client with enormous capabilities
09:47 goebbels        it was almoust a human
09:48 wei2912         lies my dear friend
09:48 wei2912         http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=C-Bot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
09:48 wei2912         lol
09:48 VanessaE        good morning all.
09:49 wei2912         VanessaE, hi
09:49 goebbels        hi Ezekowski
09:50 goebbels        Ezekowitz*
10:01 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
10:02 VanessaE        hey hey PilzAdam
10:02 PilzAdam        im at shool right now
10:02 goebbels        are you a little boy
10:03 PilzAdam        any chance to get MT running on win2000 or latest openSUse without compliing?
10:03 goebbels        sorry, no
10:03 VanessaE        erm, win2k *maybe* since it's similar to XP, which I guess the win build runs on (try it?).  opensuse, I doubt it, but I'm sure compiling isn't too painful there
10:04 PilzAdam        i have not the right tools to compile it :-(
10:05 VanessaE        time to search the repositories :-)
10:05 PilzAdam        i have not root privs here
10:05 VanessaE        it's always been my opinion that any Linux distro should always have a full build environment either already installed or installable from one command.
10:05 VanessaE        oh damn.
10:06 VanessaE        time to grab a live cd ;-)
10:06 VanessaE        I take it this is your workstation>
10:06 VanessaE        ?
10:06 PilzAdam        i have no cd drive
10:07 VanessaE        oh wait, school you said
10:07 VanessaE        no help there then :-/
10:07 VanessaE        brb
10:07 goebbels        a little schoolboy
10:08 goebbels        I've seen some schoolgirl porn, but not yet schoolboy porn
10:17 VanessaE        that's enough.
10:18 PilzAdam        yay
10:18 PilzAdam        :-)
10:18 PilzAdam        VanessaE: your animated torches and vessels are in the default game now
10:18 VanessaE        yep
10:19 PilzAdam        any changes for some of my mods to be there too?
10:19 VanessaE        (only needed to persist long enough to stop an auto-rejoin)
10:20 VanessaE        mmm
10:20 VanessaE        which mods again, I can't remember :-)
10:20 PilzAdam        i had TNT, beds and farming in mind
10:21 VanessaE        hm.  good question.
10:21 PilzAdam        i have to work on beds mod
10:21 VanessaE        I'm not entirely sure
10:21 PilzAdam        but TNT is quite simple and lightweight
10:21 VanessaE        right
10:22 VanessaE        c55 might consider that one I think, since the game sorta had it
10:22 PilzAdam        i will make a pull request to minetest_game
10:22 PilzAdam        (when im at home)
10:22 VanessaE        c55 hates my pipeworks mod though - looks "out of place" :-)
10:23 PilzAdam        i dont use it...
10:23 PilzAdam        i like the middle age RPG stile
10:23 PilzAdam        *style
10:23 VanessaE        you may come around some time :-)
10:24 PilzAdam        maybe...
10:24 VanessaE        one of the guys on the forum suggested they'd look good in a steampunk style world :-)
10:26 PilzAdam        VanessaE: whats about throwing mod?
10:26 VanessaE        now that one stands a good chance I think
10:27 VanessaE        c55 likes "survival" stuff and that seems to fit the description well enough :-)
10:27 PilzAdam        is he around?
10:28 VanessaE        by now it should be about 12:30pm his time, so I assume he's at least awake, but probably at work
10:28 VanessaE        s/at work/working/
10:28 PilzAdam        its same timezone as me
10:29 VanessaE        finland anyways
10:29 cosarara97      I tryed to start minetestserver and then connect to it from the same computer, and I can't connect (Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player). Is this a new bug or I'm doing something wrong?
10:30 VanessaE        cosarara97: you're not the first to experience that error, but I have no clue what the solution is :(
10:30 cosarara97      D:
10:30 VanessaE        are you using 127.0.0.1 for the IP to connect to, or the machine's 'real' IP address?
10:31 cosarara97      localhost (so 127.0.0.1)
10:31 VanessaE        use the actual IP address
10:31 thexyz          PilzAdam: then hack into it & get root password
10:31 VanessaE        "localhost" doesn't work.
10:31 cosarara97      thexyz: I hack into my own computer?
10:31 VanessaE        I mean, use 127.* instead of "localhost" that is.
10:31 cosarara97      ok
10:31 PilzAdam        thexyz: i my teacher is 2 places next to me...
10:32 VanessaE        hi PilzAdam's teacher!!
10:32 thexyz          "but it has a minor bug: you have to shift-jump to get over/onyo it" ← it's feature, not a bug
10:32 thexyz          the bug is that you CAN jump over it
10:32 thexyz          not that you can't jump over it without shift key
10:32 cosarara97      huh, it worked
10:32 cosarara97      localhost used to work
10:32 thexyz          PilzAdam: oh, that's bad
10:33 cosarara97      Do other things in /etc/hosts work?
10:33 thexyz          cosarara97: localhost does work
10:33 thexyz          if it's resolved as 127.0.0.1, not ::1
10:33 thexyz          afaik
10:33 cosarara97      oh
10:33 thexyz          same for all other things in hosts
10:34 VanessaE        thexyz: huh.  I called it a bug only because you can jump over regular fences unassisted.
10:35 thexyz          oh
10:35 thexyz          > well the "x" stuff means its xyz's mod
10:35 cosarara97      that ::1 is ip v6?
10:35 thexyz          i thought it means that this mod tries to mimic minecraft
10:35 thexyz          but, anyway
10:35 thexyz          cosarara97: yes
10:36 VanessaE        blame NekoGloop for that error  ;-)
10:36 VanessaE        actually I read the "x" as "extended" or so
10:37 thexyz          cosarara97: and minetest does not support ipv6
10:38 cosarara97      It'll have to support it one day, but for now ::1 will be called localhost6 in my pc
10:44 VanessaE        thexyz: you should release a new version of xfences that uses the ":" prefix to redefine the existing fences, that way you don't need the abm and it'll all "just work"
10:44 cosarara97      oh, the "get randomly underground" bug returned
10:45 thexyz          VanessaE: that will not work
10:45 VanessaE        no?
10:45 VanessaE        *looks at code again*
10:46 thexyz          on_place should be called for each fence to properly connect them
10:46 VanessaE        your autorotate code has to run..
10:46 VanessaE        hrm
10:49 * PilzAdam      goes home
10:49 PilzAdam        see you later!
10:51 VanessaE        hrm, I see no solution..  too bad :-/
10:52 VanessaE        good mod though.
11:07 whirm           hi everyone
11:07 VanessaE        hi
11:14 goebbels        hiy giys
12:51 goebbels        https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0gxa3YdgJ1qi740fo1_500.jpg
12:51 PilzAdam        Hi!
12:52 goebbels        Heil Pilz!
12:52 cosarara97      no "future"?
12:53 goebbels        yeah
12:53 goebbels        we have no future tense
12:54 cosarara97      really? Then how do you speak about the future?
12:54 goebbels        finns have no future
12:54 goebbels        we live in the moment
12:54 FreeFull        You don't need the future tense to talk about the future
12:55 cosarara97      example?
12:56 goebbels        "Syön" = "I eat"; "Ensi vuonna syön" = "Next year I will eat"
12:56 cosarara97      "Next year eat"?
12:56 goebbels        yes
12:58 goebbels        "ensi vuonna", as "next year", includes already the presence of future
12:58 goebbels        so no need to specify it anymore
12:59 goebbels        like "huomenna" = "tomorrow", and "syön" = "I eat", "huomenna syön" = "I will eat tomorrow"
12:59 * Calinou       got banned from two channels at once
13:02 goebbels        cosarara97: you got it?!
13:02 cosarara97      well, you can do exacly the same in catalan, but we have future tense as well - "demà" = "tomorrow", and "menjo" = "I eat", "menjaré" = "I will eat", "demà menjo" = "demà menjaré" = "I will eat tomorrow"
13:03 goebbels        but there exists no any way to tell anything about future without the time-thing (like tomorrow, next year)
13:03 goebbels        in finnish
13:03 goebbels        you can't thell you will do something without telling when
13:03 cosarara97      you can say "one day"
13:04 goebbels        yeah
13:04 goebbels        but always you need the TIME-THIENGIE!
13:04 goebbels        \,,/
13:04 cosarara97      THIENGUIE?
13:05 goebbels        yeah!!
13:06 cosarara97      mmm... no!
13:06 cosarara97      :)
13:08 goebbels        you should learn finnish
13:08 Calinou         SIIVUT
13:09 cosarara97      you should learn catalan
13:09 goebbels        because all the good music is sang in finnish
13:09 cosarara97      you know where catalonia is?
13:09 goebbels        of course, I've played Age of Empires
13:09 cosarara97      I haven't
13:10 cosarara97      So what does Age of Empires say?
13:31 VanessaE        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40800#p40800
13:32 VanessaE        new Ubuntu AMD64 build of today's git, with Anisotropic filtering and MipMap turned on :-)
13:32 wei2912         VanessaE, we need another thing
13:32 wei2912         fog distance config
13:32 goebbels        was good sauna
13:32 goebbels        95 C initial temp
13:33 wei2912         ?
13:33 VanessaE        wei2912: I know.  Not sure how to do that; jin_xi is who discovered the AF+MM setting above.
13:33 goebbels        and then some 2 liters of water to the stove during there
13:33 PilzAdam        https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9
13:33 goebbels        it's quite hot!
13:33 wei2912         PilzAdam, hmm
13:33 wei2912         you make me want to add my mods
13:33 goebbels        are you sauna fans?
13:34 goebbels        there should be sauna mod in mt
13:34 PilzAdam        IMO c55 should add more mods to default game; users dont have to use the,
13:34 goebbels        the comma?
13:35 wei2912         lol
13:40 wei2912         PilzAdam, i'll do a pull request too
13:41 VanessaE        there, new AMD64 Ubuntu 12.04 build, with AF+MM and also Trilinear filtering turned on, added to the above post.
13:41 PilzAdam        wei2912, what mods?
13:41 wei2912         PilzAdam, some from minitest
13:42 wei2912         some from others
13:42 wei2912         none which are mine (might be changing...)
13:42 PilzAdam        link to fork?
13:44 wei2912         PilzAdam, wait a moment
13:44 wei2912         PilzAdam, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game
13:46 PilzAdam        a creative inventory is already in the default game
13:46 wei2912         yup
13:46 wei2912         which is what i'm removing now
13:46 PilzAdam        why did you added it?
13:47 PilzAdam        animated torches are also in the game
13:47 wei2912         copied and paste
13:47 VanessaE        you. don't. need. the. creative. inventory. mod.
13:47 VanessaE        jeez :-)
13:47 wei2912         lol
13:47 wei2912         wait
13:47 wei2912         didn't i delete it?
13:47 PilzAdam        and. not. the. animatedtorches. mod.
13:47 VanessaE        right, don't need that either since it's in the game now :-)
13:48 PilzAdam        growing mod is unecassary with my farming mod
13:48 wei2912         should already be deleted
13:48 wei2912         hmm
13:48 PilzAdam        you should use xdoors2 and delte the default doors mod
13:48 wei2912         PilzAdam, anything else i need to delete?
13:48 PilzAdam        thats it i think
13:49 wei2912         PilzAdam, thanks
13:52 PilzAdam        why the … is creative_inventory in MiniTest
13:52 PilzAdam        ?
13:52 wei2912         PilzAdam, no idea? lol
13:52 wei2912         remember
13:52 wei2912         i combined my mods with the mods in MiniTest
13:54 wei2912         PilzAdam, okay... updated my mod
13:54 wei2912         PilzAdam, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game/tree/master/mods
13:54 wei2912         VanessaE, https://github.com/wei2912/minetest_game/tree/master/mods
13:55 wei2912         wait
13:55 wei2912         i forgot to add my mods
13:55 goebbels        you are odd
13:59 wei2912         goebbels, lol
13:59 wei2912         PilzAdam, VanessaE, finally added my mods
13:59 goebbels        wei2912: do yoou like music?
13:59 VanessaE        wei2912: that's a lot of mods to add.
14:00 VanessaE        c55 probably will not add them all
14:00 wei2912_        VanessaE, i know
14:00 goebbels        yes he will if we use some violence
14:00 wei2912_        lol
14:00 goebbels        We, as a group, are stronger
14:01 wei2912_        VanessaE, i don't expect him to do so
14:01 PilzAdam        ive updated item_drop so it doesnt override minetest.get_node_drops()
14:02 wei2912_        PilzAdam, oh?
14:02 wei2912_        PilzAdam, now i need to update it :P
14:02 wei2912_        wait i don't phew
14:02 PilzAdam        you shouldnt add other peoples mod to your pull request
14:03 wei2912_        PilzAdam, thus
14:04 wei2912_        i won't add it to my pull request
14:04 wei2912_        lol
14:04 PilzAdam        wei2912_, you have my beds mod in it?
14:04 wei2912_        it's just a collection of mods for now
14:04 wei2912_        PilzAdam, yup
14:04 wei2912_        don't worry i won't push it
14:04 PilzAdam        i will work on this now
14:05 VanessaE        why is it I can pull 40+ fps on one minetest iteration, and 55fps on a second one -- AT THE SAME TIME -- but not 60+ on one only?
14:05 PilzAdam        i have ~200 fps...
14:06 PilzAdam        but limit it to 60 :-(
14:07 goebbels        because the Führer says so
14:07 goebbels        first iteration should be enough on all cases
14:07 goebbels        in*
14:08 VanessaE        goebbels: that's enough with the nazi crap.
14:08 wei2912_        lol
14:08 goebbels        VanessaE: the C-guy is our Führer, or The Great Leader
14:08 goebbels        VanessaE: nothing to do with te N-people
14:08 wei2912_        he changed
14:08 wei2912_        lol
14:09 PilzAdam        VanessaE, i have goebbels on my XChat ignore list... i dont have to read it
14:12 wei2912_        looking for crap to remove now
14:12 wei2912_        PilzAdam, lol
14:15 wei2912_        VanessaE, PilzAdam any mod you see in my mod pack that can cause lag?
14:15 goebbels        modding is bad
14:15 PilzAdam        wait a bit then i will look at it
14:15 wei2912_        PilzAdam, thanks
14:15 VanessaE        wei2912_: ditch animatedtorches (both names), inventory, TNT, farming, nature, madblocks, snow biome.  Replace admin pick with maptools.
14:16 VanessaE        Wait on item_drop until that new function c55 added yesterday is merged in
14:16 PilzAdam        it is
14:16 wei2912_        VanessaE, adminpick is my mod
14:16 VanessaE        some of what I suggest to ditch is because wei2912_ already submitted them :-)  The rest will cause too much CPU load or are already in the game now.
14:16 wei2912_        a stripped down version of maptools
14:17 VanessaE        wei2912_: oh ok.  still I'd recommend maptools for this, it has other stuff that may be useful
14:17 goebbels        there is one mayor problem
14:17 wei2912_        VanessaE, i'll remove animatedtorches, inventor, madblocks and snow. Thanks!
14:17 goebbels        that the game stores the information of every block, even those that are undergroud and non-visible to the player
14:17 goebbels        major*
14:18 jin_xi          one more ignore for goebbels, fuck off
14:19 VanessaE        Bye Bye.
14:19 wei2912_        hmm
14:19 wei2912_        didn't notice you were an op :P
14:19 wei2912_        lol
14:19 jin_xi          thanks VanessaE
14:19 VanessaE        I try to use it very lightly.
14:20 * PilzAdam      is afraid of VanessaE as OP
14:20 wei2912_        lol
14:20 VanessaE        fear not. :-)
14:21 VanessaE        jin_xi: you're welcome.
14:21 VanessaE        ok, time ot go replant my forest in redcrab's server now.
14:21 VanessaE        anyone got some spare dirt? :-S
14:21 wei2912_        VanessaE, greatly improved the speed :D
14:22 wei2912_        reminds me
14:22 wei2912_        i need to update minetest
14:25 wei2912_        PilzAdam, any power source in your carts mod?
14:25 PilzAdam        nope
14:26 PilzAdam        but there is a cart detector for mesecons
14:26 wei2912_        PilzAdam, okay thanks
14:27 wei2912_        PilzAdam, does mesecon increase cpu load by a lot?
14:27 PilzAdam        idk
14:32 PilzAdam        wei2912 or wei2912_, you dont need to add clean mod to the game because its more a developer tool than a mod for normal users
14:32 wei2912_        PilzAdam, okay
14:32 PilzAdam        my carts mod isnt perfect for default game; its too slow
14:33 keegaan         hello
14:33 wei2912_        PilzAdam, thanks
14:33 wei2912_        and for the carts part... let me try
14:33 wei2912_        and see if i can perfect it
14:33 PilzAdam        there are some minor changes in beds mod but not the changes i originally want to do
14:35 wei2912_        PilzAdam, there is?
14:35 wei2912_        i didn't change tht mod at all
14:35 PilzAdam        VanessaE, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9#issuecomment-8239942
14:36 PilzAdam        wei2912_, dont make a pull request: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/9#issuecomment-8239942
14:36 wei2912_        PilzAdam, i won't
14:36 wei2912_        PilzAdam, thanks anyway
14:37 wei2912_        PilzAdam, btw how do i push the cart?
14:37 wei2912_        ah i get it
14:37 wei2912_        lol
14:37 PilzAdam        fork it
14:37 wei2912_        PilzAdam, what about curved rails? i don't have them
14:38 PilzAdam        the automatically get curved
14:39 wei2912_        PilzAdam, oh
14:41 wei2912_        PilzAdam, hmm carts is buggy when it comes to slanted rails.
14:43 PilzAdam        bugginess: thats another reason to not put it in the default game
14:44 cornernote      for me it was mostly good on slants
14:44 PilzAdam        for me too
14:44 cornernote      i think its really hard to get it perfect with current engine
14:44 PilzAdam        its a question of CPU power
14:44 cornernote      hopefully this mod will be a great reason to improve some engine features
14:45 wei2912_        that was my fault lol
14:45 cornernote      and that will allow more vehicles, etc
14:45 wei2912_        put the rails a weird way
14:45 PilzAdam        cornernote, ask c55 on #minetest-delta
14:46 cornernote      i have no idea what needs to be done
14:46 cornernote      im no c++ programmer :(
14:46 PilzAdam        a function to set the velocity of the player
14:46 cornernote      i just thing that mod will drive engine development in the direction of vehicles, etc
14:46 cornernote      i saw your issue on github about that
14:47 PilzAdam        i have made an issue about that?
14:47 PilzAdam        cant remember
14:47 cornernote      i saw it somewhere
14:48 cornernote      maybe in the forums
14:48 cornernote      dunno
14:48 cornernote      sometimes i imagine things too
14:48 * PilzAdam      too
14:49 cornernote      its a good idea tho
14:49 cornernote      you should submit it as an issue
14:49 cornernote      i'll +1 it
14:49 PilzAdam        maybe i will do
14:50 wei2912_        PilzAdam, cornernote, i can try
14:51 cornernote      dont try
14:51 cornernote      imagine
14:51 wei2912_        cornernote: imagine?
14:51 cornernote      its ok, im just tired and rambling
14:51 cornernote      need to sleep
14:51 wei2912_        lol
14:51 cornernote      but need to watch dexter
14:51 wei2912_        how do i send a pull request?
14:52 wei2912_        can't figure it out
14:52 cornernote      got the windows client ?
14:52 PilzAdam        to your fork or to upstream?
14:52 wei2912_        upstream
14:52 wei2912_        cornernote: windows client?
14:52 wei2912_        i got old smartgit
14:52 wei2912_        smartgit*
14:52 wei2912_        it isn't old lol
14:54 wei2912_        PilzAdam, upstream
15:11 wei2912         fixed the issue
15:12 * Calinou       got banned from a channel
15:12 VanessaE        oh there's a surprise.
15:12 VanessaE        ;)
15:12 Calinou         3 bans in one day
15:12 Calinou         seriously
15:12 PilzAdam        what channels?
15:12 Calinou         #ubuntu-fr (last one), #redeclipse, #re-lobby
15:15 celeron55       "why is it I can pull 40+ fps on one minetest iteration, and 55fps on a second one -- AT THE SAME TIME -- but not 60+ on one only?" <- because you have multiple cores
15:19 wei2912         jackpot celeron55! lol
15:21 wei2912         ol
15:21 wei2912         lol
15:21 wei2912         using fire i could destroy lava source?
15:21 VanessaE        celeron55: so I assumed :-)
15:22 celeron55       it will probably be the year million plus one when i will get a main computer that has a GPU that can render stuff at a higher rate than the CPU can regularly feed it; that year minetest might get better in that sense
15:22 VanessaE        heh
15:22 VanessaE        or if someone releases a patch of course
15:22 wei2912         lol
15:23 wei2912         celeron55, i noticed one thing
15:23 wei2912         water has a stop
15:23 wei2912         lava doesn't?
15:23 celeron55       nobody dares to even try anything like that, as for what i've observed
15:23 wei2912         my gosh
15:23 wei2912         lava has no limit!
15:24 wei2912         what have you done...
15:24 VanessaE        *shrug* it's no big deal really.  Just something I noticed (I had figured the game was already multithreaded by now)
15:24 wei2912         lava is distruptive
15:24 celeron55       it is multithreaded but at least with irrlicht you can't do any rendering in other than the thread where irrlicht is running in
15:25 VanessaE        celeron55: ah, gotchya
15:26 PilzAdam        celeron55, you think the api should contain functions to get same control on player as on entities?
15:27 celeron55       that is not really the bottleneck though, the real bottleneck is the smallness of the individual blobs of data that are fed to the GPU, and the fact that they aren't stored on the GPU side (it doesn't give any speed improvement at their current sizes)
15:28 celeron55       PilzAdam: maybe; but it's not that simple; how do you tell when the human has the control, and when something else has the control?
15:29 PilzAdam        maybe enable_keyboar_control(boolean)
15:30 wei2912         muhahhaa
15:30 wei2912         lava cooling
15:31 PilzAdam        celeron55,  and maybe you can add register_on_keay_pressed(function(key, player)) and register_on_key_released()
15:31 celeron55       lava cooling is a thing i'd be interested in including upstream, as long as it isn't a performance hog
15:31 PilzAdam        with this you can create better carts, boads, cars...
15:31 wei2912         celeron55, it isn't
15:31 wei2912         http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2709
15:32 celeron55       PilzAdam: it will have terrible lag though
15:32 celeron55       or, well, varying lag
15:32 PilzAdam        its just an idea
15:33 PilzAdam        but control velocity and accelaration of player is important for many mods: carts, planets, moon
15:34 wei2912         ah!
15:34 wei2912         got a great idea
15:34 wei2912         to solve the problem of flatlands
15:34 VanessaE        celeron55: do you plan to re-introduce jungle biomes?  If not, I'd like to nominate my junglegrass mod for inclusion since some other mods need such.
15:34 wei2912         make a "game" which generates flatlands
15:36 celeron55       VanessaE: the problem with all these plans is that if i try to list them anywhere, the list grows so long it will be just forgotten as "nobody can ever make all of those, and which of those is important anyway?", and if i don't, i, well, do things happily but more randomly, and forget that kind of things 8)
15:36 VanessaE        heh
15:37 PilzAdam        bye CIA-bot
15:37 celeron55       CYA-bot
15:40 wei2912         PilzAdam, celeron55 VanessaE anyone can access http://www.filesplat.com/.kddekadenz/shared/flatland.zip?
15:40 VanessaE        well in that case, new pull request pending :D
15:40 wei2912         i need to obtain it to create a flatland world.
15:40 VanessaE        wei2912: no.  dead link (even without the ? )
15:41 wei2912         sigh
15:41 wei2912         VanessaE, do you have the flatlands mod?
15:41 VanessaE        nope
15:43 wei2912         VanessaE, PilzAdam any idea how i can generate flatland?
15:43 PilzAdam        set all mapgen output to air
15:43 VanessaE        short of using worldedit, I have no idea - I've never hooked into the map generator.
15:43 PilzAdam        and then use on_generate
15:43 wei2912         PilzAdam, set mapgen output to air and use on_generate?
15:43 wei2912         PilzAdam, wait
15:44 wei2912         hmm
15:44 wei2912         i think i'm using a new "game"
15:44 wei2912         (games/*)
15:44 wei2912         yup i am
15:45 wei2912         PilzAdam, any idea?
15:45 PilzAdam        yes many
15:45 PilzAdam        i can do it for you
15:45 wei2912         PilzAdam, do i still need to set mapgen output to air?
15:46 PilzAdam        its faster then overriding it in on_generate
15:46 wei2912         PilzAdam, i'm not overriding
15:46 wei2912         PilzAdam, i hope
15:46 wei2912         lol
15:47 FreeFull        Have biomes be a mod
15:47 FreeFull        And then anybody can easily make new biomes
15:47 wei2912         PilzAdam, how do i create a for loop?
15:48 PilzAdam        see lua.org/pil
15:49 wei2912         PilzAdam, okay
15:51 wei2912         PilzAdam, i sort of... suceeded?
15:51 wei2912         in making a completely empty space
15:51 PilzAdam        yes
15:52 PilzAdam        know use on_generate() to check the height and add the correct stone/dirt blocks
15:52 wei2912         PilzAdam, check the height?
15:52 wei2912         wait let me post my code...
15:52 PilzAdam        wait i will give you some code
15:52 wei2912         PilzAdam, http://pastebin.com/KjaP5jua
15:52 wei2912         okay thanks a lot
15:54 hmmmm           my computer does that, i have an athlon 64 3500+ paired with an 8400gs
15:58 hmmmm           anyway about the 'flatlands' game, that was a modification i was planning to make
15:59 wei2912         hmmmm, hmmmm
15:59 hmmmm           you'd be able to control mapgen parameters by sending server commands
15:59 hmmmm           and there can be some 'presets' for collections of parameters
15:59 wei2912         hmmmm, same idea
15:59 wei2912         there's a major diff.
15:59 PilzAdam        wei2912, untested: https://gist.github.com/3610270
15:59 wei2912         i'm a lua complete noob
15:59 hmmmm           and then you can do like /mapgen set flatlands and flatlands would be like
15:59 hmmmm           2 octaves
15:59 hmmmm           .30 persistance
15:59 hmmmm           etc.
16:00 wei2912         hmmmm, that would be... laggy
16:00 hmmmm           how would that be laggy............?
16:00 wei2912         PilzAdam, thanks a lot
16:00 wei2912         hmmmm, isn't that converting the terrain?
16:00 PilzAdam        try it i dunno if it works
16:01 wei2912         unless you can add a pull request for a re-mapgenerator?
16:02 wei2912         PilzAdam, let me try...
16:02 PilzAdam        wei2912, hmmm my version is very slow
16:03 wei2912         PilzAdam, doesn't seem to work
16:03 wei2912         oh wait
16:03 wei2912         i didn't save
16:03 PilzAdam        and it doesn work as expected
16:03 wei2912         lol
16:04 wei2912         oh!
16:05 PilzAdam        this works better: https://gist.github.com/3610270
16:07 wei2912         PilzAdam, will try that one after i try mine
16:12 NekoGloop       oh look vanessae's op
16:12 PilzAdam        Hi NekoGloop
16:12 VanessaE        not anymore ;)
16:13 NekoGloop       hi pizadam
16:13 NekoGloop       lol vanessae
16:13 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game
16:14 NekoGloop       so that's the default game + throwing, farming, and tnt?
16:14 wei2912         PilzAdam, this seems almost impossible to do
16:15 wei2912         PilzAdam, i have no idea why the old map generator works well while ours doesn't
16:15 PilzAdam        because the default one is in programmed in c++ -> it runs native and fast
16:16 wei2912         PilzAdam, hmm
16:16 wei2912         might hack it
16:16 NekoGloop       vanessae: I'm getting pipeworks now ;)
16:16 PilzAdam        VanessaE, "Added junglegrass mod, this time against a current git because I'm an idiot." lol
16:17 wei2912         gtg bye
16:17 hmmmm           converting the terrain??
16:17 hmmmm           what are you talking about
16:17 PilzAdam        flatlands
16:17 NekoGloop       what is this, "fork minetest_game to hell" day?
16:18 PilzAdam        https://gist.github.com/3610270
16:18 hmmmm           no, if you were to change mapgen parameters, new chunks of the map that are genned will reflect the new parameters
16:18 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, i started and then others did the same…
16:18 hmmmm           for example you start off a game, all the current genned blocks will be nice and hilly and lakey like default minetest
16:18 hmmmm           and then after you set the parameters, when you go to generate new terrain, it'll be nice and flat
16:19 hmmmm           and buildable
16:19 VanessaE        PilzAdam: yep.  I'm an idiot when it comes to git sometimes :-)
16:20 * PilzAdam      too
16:20 PilzAdam        who isnt; please raise your hand!
16:20 * NekoGloop     lowers his hand
16:20 VanessaE        heh
16:20 * celeron55     raises
16:21 NekoGloop       lol
16:21 celeron55       git is an idiot when it comes to me.
16:21 PilzAdam        lol
16:21 VanessaE        BAH!H!H!
16:21 VanessaE        sugar free drink -> monitor
16:21 NekoGloop       shorted out monitor
16:21 NekoGloop       :D
16:21 VanessaE        thanks for the laugh, c55 :D
16:22 NekoGloop       celeron55: well we're both giving each other phrases, now arent we? :)
16:23 NekoGloop       who wants me to release my gates mod?
16:23 VanessaE        does it work? :-)
16:23 NekoGloop       yup
16:23 NekoGloop       tiles properly with xfences as well
16:24 VanessaE        excellent
16:24 NekoGloop       (at least, looks kinda decent tiling with xfences)
16:24 VanessaE        release it
16:24 NekoGloop       one moment
16:24 NekoGloop       i wanna tune up the nodebox a bit
16:24 VanessaE        probably good to post a link on the original gates thread
16:24 NekoGloop       i'd have to find it ;)
16:24 VanessaE        http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=896
16:25 NekoGloop       lol ok
16:25 NekoGloop       nodeboxes were the worst part about the mod ;)
16:25 NekoGloop       right next to getting them to place right and getting them to open
16:26 NekoGloop       hm... should i make different material gates? e.g. steel, stone?
16:27 PilzAdam        nope!
16:27 NekoGloop       why not?
16:27 PilzAdam        we dont need every single item/node made of 1045789 different materials
16:27 NekoGloop       lol
16:28 NekoGloop       so you say
16:29 NekoGloop       oh and light can go through an open gate
16:29 NekoGloop       meaning you can use the gates as windows
16:30 PilzAdam        OS?
16:30 NekoGloop       no
16:30 NekoGloop       i mean for house building
16:30 _2cool4me4_     I has registered nick
16:30 NekoGloop       cool
16:31 NekoGloop       or, rather, 2cool
16:31 NekoGloop       :DF
16:31 NekoGloop       :D*
16:31 _2cool4me4_     Freenode told me too
16:31 _2cool4me4_     #_2cool4me4_channel24 :P
16:33 NekoGloop       ohai redcrab
16:34 redcrab         hi
16:34 PilzAdam        hi
16:34 _2cool4me4_     celeron's here too
16:35 NekoGloop       he's been here, where have you been?
16:35 _2cool4me4_     not here
16:36 RealBadAngel    hi all
16:36 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, item_drop has changed
16:36 RealBadAngel    again?
16:36 RealBadAngel    btw i seen some change made by c55
16:36 PilzAdam        https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/README.txt#L20
16:36 RealBadAngel    that u asked for?
16:36 PilzAdam        yes
16:37 NekoGloop       i made working fence gates
16:37 RealBadAngel    i guess i will have to compile the newest one
16:37 PilzAdam        it overrides the new function: https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/init.lua#L65
16:37 NekoGloop       now they tile PERFECTLY with xfences
16:37 RealBadAngel    some1 maybe has it already compiled for win?
16:37 _2cool4me4_     normally sfan5 does
16:38 RealBadAngel    09.01
16:38 RealBadAngel    so i guess this fix isnt here yet
16:39 NekoGloop       lets see a show of hands
16:39 sfan5           should i make a new build?
16:39 NekoGloop       who wants my fence gate?
16:39 RealBadAngel    ooops theres one from today
16:39 _2cool4me4_     http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
16:39 _2cool4me4_     if ya didn't know
16:40 RealBadAngel    sfan5, you made build today already, right?
16:42 _2cool4me4_     the mesecons website background really doesn't like my eyes... I can see my LCD refreshing...
16:43 Calinou         https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/794c68b32b81c8b7bd31ac0fb8cf584a13ad457d
16:43 Calinou         O_o
16:43 Calinou         this mod has no use :/
16:43 RealBadAngel    hmmmmz, is  it just me or the newest build is just slower??
16:43 _2cool4me4_     calinou: LIES! Celeron made it!
16:43 NekoGloop       Calinou: it has the use of being a base for other mods
16:44 NekoGloop       _2cool4me4_: VanessaE made it :/
16:44 VanessaE        what did I make?
16:44 VanessaE        oh, vessels.
16:44 RealBadAngel    yeah, when you make vodka with ice no longer need to drink it from a bucket
16:44 thexyz          that mod provides standards for other mods
16:44 VanessaE        it has no use, yet. :-)
16:45 VanessaE        though UD uses it, and a few other mods have their own glassware, so this was an attempt to ...yeah, what thexyz said
16:45 _2cool4me4_     lol ninjad?
16:45 sfan5           RealBadAngel: my last build cc47ff7
16:45 sfan5           +is
16:45 RealBadAngel    k, got it
16:46 VanessaE        hey hey RealBadAngel.
16:46 RealBadAngel    i just run it and with empty world no mods i do have 30fps
16:46 sfan5           and the latest minetest is cc47ff7
16:46 RealBadAngel    hi VanessaE
16:46 _2cool4me4_     my rc1 runs at ~60FPS
16:46 RealBadAngel    so i asked, wtf has changed
16:46 sfan5           https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master
16:46 RealBadAngel    here jumps from 30 to 40 now
16:46 NekoGloop       i run at 25fpx
16:46 NekoGloop       fps*
16:47 RealBadAngel    while before i had 60fps with 128x textures
16:47 Calinou         <NekoGloop> Calinou: it has the use of being a base for other mods
16:47 Calinou         pheh
16:47 _2cool4me4_     One person has been banned on this channel...
16:47 Calinou         can't craft dyes
16:47 Calinou         <thexyz> that mod provides standards for other mods
16:47 Calinou         *points to xkcd*
16:49 VanessaE        http://xkcd.com/927/
16:49 NekoGloop       _2cool4me4_: who?
16:49 thexyz          Calinou: yes, that's what happens when there is no official standard
16:50 _2cool4me4_     NekoGloop: Idk his nick, Vanessa banned him
16:50 NekoGloop       ok
16:50 NekoGloop       gates are coming well
16:50 NekoGloop       you now cannot jump over a closed gate
16:50 _2cool4me4_     notbad
16:51 VanessaE        goebbels...
16:51 NekoGloop       oh
16:51 VanessaE        that's the banned nick.
16:51 NekoGloop       well i dont blame you then
16:52 NekoGloop       papyrus REALLY needs a nodebox
16:52 VanessaE        NekoGloop: 3dforniture.
16:52 RealBadAngel    hmmm, terrain generator makes wild things
16:52 NekoGloop       er...
16:52 NekoGloop       selectionbox not nodebox
16:52 Calinou         animated torches :D
16:52 Calinou         they're a bitch to make in minecraft packs. VERY (the wall ones)
16:53 * Calinou       suggests: animated water in default game
16:53 NekoGloop       i still have normal torches :D
16:53 Calinou         we need a texture though
16:53 RealBadAngel    wtf is that: http://realbadangel.pl/sce1.png
16:53 Calinou         they're default now in git
16:53 Calinou         nice domain you have there RealBadAngel
16:53 Calinou         rich RealBadAngel
16:53 RealBadAngel    lol
16:53 NekoGloop       well i guess i get animated torches then, eh?
16:53 NekoGloop       and work on animated kalite torches
16:54 VanessaE        yup
16:54 NekoGloop       i only really need to splash the kalite colors on the torche
16:54 NekoGloop       torch*
16:55 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, item_drop has changed again ;-)
16:56 RealBadAngel    whats new?
16:56 PilzAdam        nothing for users or other developers
16:56 RealBadAngel    dont tell me "i rewrote the code"
16:56 RealBadAngel    heheh
16:56 PilzAdam        just get rid of the register_on_dignode() function
16:57 celeron55       wtf is wrong with wordpress's akismet
16:57 Calinou         misa pack updated with support
16:57 Calinou         celeron55, things are always wrong with akismet.
16:57 celeron55       one of my posts received a comment that had a website called "moneykiller.info"
16:58 thexyz          minetest.register_globalstep(function(dtime)
16:58 thexyz          for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do
16:58 celeron55       like, isn't that so obvious spam? 8)
16:58 thexyz          awesome code you have there
16:58 celeron55       it didn't even mark it for pending moderation
16:58 PilzAdam        thexyz, ?
16:59 thexyz          PilzAdam: you know that globalstep runs every 0.05 seconds, right?
16:59 PilzAdam        yes
16:59 PilzAdam        normally
16:59 NekoGloop       is that why it doesnt work?
16:59 PilzAdam        i didnt ever said its good for servers
16:59 NekoGloop       item_drop doesnt work, never has :)
17:00 PilzAdam        NekoGloop, on normal computers it works
17:00 NekoGloop       my computer is normal
17:00 PilzAdam        nope
17:00 celeron55       well that isn't particularly bad; it needs to respond fairly quickly
17:00 thexyz          PilzAdam: then why don't you make it run every second?
17:00 thexyz          or some other time value
17:00 PilzAdam        it "feels" slow for players
17:00 thexyz          oh poor players
17:01 * Calinou       facepalms at thexyz
17:01 Calinou         MT is aimed at slower computers
17:01 RealBadAngel    player, player, i heard somethin bout players. rumour says that they do play, is that true?
17:02 RealBadAngel    never seen one before...
17:02 * PilzAdam      sees only modders too
17:02 NekoGloop       i play
17:02 celeron55       thexyz: that won't be bad for regular amounts of players i think
17:02 PilzAdam        so what interval?
17:02 celeron55       thexyz: but will be somewhat on a server with tens of players
17:02 RealBadAngel    NekoGloop, you dont count :P
17:02 redcrab         in lua script ... How to disconnect a connected player (without banning him)
17:03 _2cool4me4_     RBA: I don't do anything advanced
17:03 RealBadAngel    ;)
17:03 PilzAdam        redcrab, ban and unban?
17:03 _2cool4me4_     wink?
17:04 celeron55       actually, comparing that is very easy; see the "SEnv step" value in a fully-loaded world with that mod off and on
17:04 redcrab         PilzAdam ... to wide action ... because if the IP is owned by a school or a home with multiple player ... every player with same ip will be disconnected
17:04 redcrab         PilzAdam ...I means too wild ... :)
17:06 RealBadAngel    hi sdzen
17:06 sdzen           ello
17:06 sfan5           ata
17:06 sdzen           need textures still RBA?
17:07 RealBadAngel    yup
17:07 sdzen           what was it alloy furnace?
17:07 RealBadAngel    yeah, im finishin coding it now
17:08 RealBadAngel    you could think also of another one for coal generator, this one is a little weirdo
17:09 sdzen           kay
17:09 NekoGloop       coal generator should look kinda like a furnace
17:11 YTR-123`        Hi guys
17:11 _2cool4me4_     I don't know you
17:11 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, i looked at SEnv step as c55 said an when just standing around with or without is nearly the same (~0.02 difference) and with digging at high speed with mese pick i get up to 0.35 without item drop and to 0.4 with item drop
17:11 YTR-123`        Youtube-Recordz-123 ?
17:11 _2cool4me4_     ohh
17:12 YTR-123`        lol
17:12 YTR-123`        SWALK
17:12 YTR-123`        who knows what that means?
17:12 NekoGloop       not me
17:12 PilzAdam        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWALK
17:13 NekoGloop       some exception: fuck off
17:13 * YTR-123`      are you takin da pizz ^
17:13 Calinou         a wild troll appears
17:13 Calinou         Calinou uses "no troll 4 u"
17:14 Calinou         it's super effective
17:14 _2cool4me4_     1 hit KO
17:14 * NekoGloop     didnt faint
17:14 celeron55       PilzAdam: SEnv step avg is what you should be comparing, actually
17:14 PilzAdam        k
17:14 YTR-123`        i know this has F**k all to do with minetest but any good films or tv series to watch ? cuz im bored
17:15 celeron55       hmm, well, apparently the accumulated time stabilizes after some time too
17:15 _2cool4me4_     Is there a newer program for editing mesecons than temperest's?
17:15 celeron55       it just takes looooong
17:15 _2cool4me4_     YTR-123`: Pawn Stars
17:15 Calinou         who are you, YTR-123`?
17:15 _2cool4me4_     youtuberecords
17:15 _2cool4me4_     z
17:22 iqualfragile    YTR-123`: try sync by corridor new media or something
17:23 NekoGloop       lol he left
17:25 NekoGloop       VanessaE & RealBadAngel: when and how will pipes work?
17:25 RealBadAngel    first tubes then pipes
17:26 NekoGloop       wouldnt pipes be easier thoguh?
17:26 RealBadAngel    propably yes
17:26 RealBadAngel    and when tubes done even more easier
17:29 PilzAdam        RealBadAngel, celeron55, digging at constant speed with mese pickaxe has 0.002 at SEnv step avg; item drop seems to have no effect on it
17:31 RealBadAngel    thats nice
17:44 PilzAdam        gtg
17:44 PilzAdam        bye
17:48 hmmmm           heh
17:48 hmmmm           http://fbcraft.fwsnet.net/sunrise.png
17:48 hmmmm           i think i know what minetest needs :)
17:50 Calinou         hi hmmmm long time no see :)
17:50 hmmmm           hey
18:04 thexyz          damn
18:04 thexyz          that mesecons website is not helpful at all
18:06 neko259         Calinou: Hi!
18:07 thexyz          VanessaE_: could you tell jeija that i can host that mesecons website?
18:08 neko259         VanessaE_: Hi.
18:08 neko259         VanessaE_: What did you change in nature? I try to test it and don't see any flower or bush.
18:09 neko259         But I don't remember what rates did they have...
18:10 VanessaE_       thexyz: neko259 I just tweaked bushes and irontrees to use the modified API, otherwise they should be about the same as before
18:10 VanessaE_       oops.
18:11 VanessaE_       neko ^^^
18:11 VanessaE_       thexyz: I'll let him know but I think we have a solution already :-)
18:11 thexyz          VanessaE_: what solution?
18:12 VanessaE_       we have an alternate on 000webhost.com, which seems to work well
18:12 VanessaE_       (free, no ads, and fast now - was really slow before, which is why we didn't use it as the default)
18:12 VanessaE_       mesecons.net23.net
18:12 thexyz          as for now there are ads
18:12 thexyz          oh
18:13 thexyz          ok, but i still think that free hosting is always worse
18:13 Calinou         protip: adblock
18:13 thexyz          yes, yes
18:13 Calinou         it isn't necessarily
18:13 thexyz          that's certainly better solution
18:13 Calinou         not paying is a good thing
18:13 VanessaE_       Calinou: protip: adblockplus doesn't handle those weird slideovers that ohost.de uses
18:14 Calinou         oh?
18:14 Calinou         well noscript then
18:14 Calinou         have to go now; bye
18:15 neko259         VanessaE_: So could you fix it by yourself? I don't have much time for coding, sorry :(
18:15 neko259         Hmm.
18:15 VanessaE_       neko259: should need fixed?  I'll give it some further tests today though
18:15 VanessaE_       shouldn't*
18:16 neko259         I'll login once more in an hour and walk for a while. If I'll not see any flowers again, it definitely should be fixed.
18:16 VanessaE_       oh I know flowers works :-)
18:16 thexyz          what am i doing wrong? http://i.imgur.com/M6z3h.png
18:16 VanessaE_       maybe a little too well in fact
18:17 neko259         What do you mean?
18:17 VanessaE_       thexyz: don't use the if() command for continuous assignments. :-)
18:17 thexyz          ?
18:17 VanessaE_       sbi(B,A)sbi(C,!A)
18:17 thexyz          what do you mean?
18:17 VanessaE_       that would do the same
18:17 thexyz          but what if i want to use if?
18:17 VanessaE_       then I dunno :D  but the code does look right
18:17 thexyz          shoudln't my code work?
18:18 thexyz          ok, let me post issue about it
18:18 VanessaE_       wait
18:18 VanessaE_       hothing turns off B or C though
18:18 VanessaE_       nothing*
18:18 thexyz          microcontroller should turn them off
18:18 thexyz          as manual says
18:18 VanessaE_       no
18:18 thexyz          3) Every time a button is hit, the microcontroller performs a reset, which
18:18 thexyz          means it turns off all the Ports
18:18 thexyz          yes
18:18 VanessaE_       I thin that means the buttons in the µC UI.
18:18 VanessaE_       think*(
18:18 thexyz          oh
18:19 VanessaE_       if you want if's, you need something like   if(A)on(B)off(C)>off(B)on(C);
18:19 thexyz          lol
18:19 thexyz          true
18:19 VanessaE_       hence why sbi() is better ;)
18:19 thexyz          if(A)on(B)off(C)>on(C)off(B);
18:26 thexyz          https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/37
18:27 VanessaE_       eek
18:28 thexyz          that code works for me
18:33 bas080          Hello people of the minetest
18:35 _2cool4me4_     who is frigg/
18:37 bas080          I had same question.
18:37 bas080          I get some weird message...
18:39 thexyz          ?
18:41 _2cool4me4_     there's something named frigg that always VERSION's
18:43 bas080          _2cool4me4_ , do you know what the message is about?
18:44 _2cool4me4_     nope
18:45 _2cool4me4_     type /version _2cool4me4_
18:46 bas080          Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to bas080) from _2cool4me4_ ??? why would one do that?
18:46 _2cool4me4_     I wanted to see what it did...
18:46 _2cool4me4_     now I know that you are using Purple IRC
18:50 _2cool4me4_     crap, just broke my headphones
18:54 _2cool4me4_     slow day...
19:22 himmler         hey all
19:24 himmler         The Great Leader told me: Thou shall not be afraid, to express the views not commonly accepted
19:38 NekoGloop       i really should release my gates :)
19:38 himmler         bill gates?
19:39 thexyz          NekoGloop: why do you use xdoors as base?
19:39 himmler         I guess it's because of his soviet background
19:39 NekoGloop       thexyz: because it uses a single node
19:39 thexyz          it's heavily outdated
19:39 thexyz          and non-optimal
19:40 thexyz          just fyi
19:40 NekoGloop       runs perfectly good on my bitchy comp
19:40 thexyz          that doesn't make this mod's code better
19:40 NekoGloop       anyway
19:40 NekoGloop       what's nonoptimal in xdoors?
19:41 thexyz          rotation detection
19:41 NekoGloop       i see
19:41 thexyz          the thing that calculates param2
19:41 thexyz          better use xdoors2
19:41 NekoGloop       lol
19:41 thexyz          just remove top part of door
19:42 NekoGloop       but xdoors2 uses two nodes and flips them
19:42 thexyz          that's not so hard to modify
19:42 NekoGloop       modding xdoors was simpler ;)
19:42 thexyz          anyway, i guess, i shouldn't care that much about it
19:42 NekoGloop       although i shall see what i can splice from xdoors2 to make this easier
19:42 himmler         I was just thinking about.. you ever got female company?
19:47 NekoGloop       ok xdoors2 just confused me even more
19:50 NekoGloop       cool part: my gates mod uses default textures, adding support for TPs
19:55 NekoGloop       thexyz: i also used xfences's method of preventing the player from jumping over a node
19:55 NekoGloop       you cant jump over a closed gate
19:56 NekoGloop       gates mod downlaod: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3z242i
19:56 NekoGloop       posting on forums in just a sec :)
19:58 _2cool4me4_     now I has my nick back
20:03 _2cool4me4_     control set A is done... UGH
20:04 NekoGloop       you might like to look at this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40875#p40875 ;) gates mod is RELEASED! W00T!
20:05 _2cool4me4_     I busy... Control set B is done
20:05 _2cool4me4_     Now how do I organize this?
20:05 NekoGloop       i have no idea what you are doing
20:05 _2cool4me4_     Setting up the controls for the ALU
20:06 NekoGloop       oh
20:06 _2cool4me4_     still haven't built it
20:06 NekoGloop       shit i need to add more to my mesecons world
20:06 _2cool4me4_     I'm surpassing you
20:07 NekoGloop       heh
20:07 NekoGloop       i just need to work on it :D
20:08 _2cool4me4_     Byebye
20:11 NekoGloop       requesting topic move to mod releases for gates mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2943
20:12 _2cool4me4_     Good job neko
20:12 NekoGloop       thank you
20:13 NekoGloop       er... now move it, i added dependancy info
20:13 NekoGloop       :D
20:15 _2cool4me4_     This seems to be a very MUXy alu
20:32 celeron55       i fixed the shift descend to ladders from floors
20:32 celeron55       (somebody complained on the forum)
20:32 NekoGloop       we all complained here ;)
20:39 _2cool4me4_     too bad Worldedit doesn't have an undo
20:41 celeron55       enable the rollback functionality 8)
20:41 _2cool4me4_     U has that?
20:49 _2cool4me4_     2 sets of inputs, with a 0 and negate bit, done
21:06 NekoGloop       love dat quit message :D
21:12 VanessaE_       celeron55: what's the correct recipe for white wool now?
21:14 NekoGloop       there is none
21:14 NekoGloop       (looked at the code)
21:15 VanessaE_       that's what I thouight
21:15 NekoGloop       gloopblocks used to be able to convert 9 flowers:cotton into a wool block but it became outdated
21:15 NekoGloop       same with farming
21:16 NekoGloop       for some reason it turns into an unknown block
21:16 VanessaE_       oh well
21:16 celeron55       ambience is epic.
21:16 NekoGloop       celeron, that was the most off-topic thing ever
21:17 celeron55       there is no other word for this, except maybe awesome
21:17 VanessaE_       indeed it is, but still needs tuning
21:17 celeron55       i love the glitchiness
21:18 NekoGloop       deerrrrrrp
21:18 NekoGloop       i made gloopblocks' recipe use "default:wool"
21:18 NekoGloop       brb killing myself
21:19 NekoGloop       still like what icechat chose for 2cool's quit message
21:20 NekoGloop       "He who laughs last, thinks slowest"
21:23 celeron55       VanessaE_: there is no recipe for wool, i expect to add a recipe that would result in something like cotton that actually makes wool when (yes, WHEN) i pull in farming
21:24 NekoGloop       hello splizard
21:24 VanessaE_       *shrug* ok
21:24 Splizard        hi
21:24 VanessaE_       note that Flowers mod also provides cotton
21:24 NekoGloop       celeron55: farming already makes cotton
21:24 NekoGloop       er... wool, and cotton
21:24 celeron55       or if somebody magically makes some kind of mobs that don't suck infinitely in most people's eyes, that'd work too
21:24 NekoGloop       wrong word :D
21:25 celeron55       but i am estimating the former comes first
21:28 Splizard        NekoGloop: What wasn't working with my gates mod?
21:29 NekoGloop       placing a node crashed minetest
21:32 Splizard        did you have version 1.6 of gates?
21:32 NekoGloop       yes
21:33 NekoGloop       and, yes, i unzipped the sip in the sip
21:33 NekoGloop       zip* zip*
21:33 Splizard        what was the error?
21:34 NekoGloop       you expect me to remember?
21:34 Splizard        no I guess not :D
21:34 NekoGloop       one moment
21:35 NekoGloop       ah i remember now
21:35 NekoGloop       attempt to index "gates.registered_nodes" (a nil value) at line 68.
21:36 keegaan         hello
21:37 NekoGloop       Splizard: your API is fail
21:38 Splizard        yes XD
21:39 NekoGloop       anyway, could you help with mine? i dont like the nodeboxes how they are
21:39 _2cool4me4_     Yeesh, I don't even have the adder implimented yet, and this is a mess of microcontrollers
21:39 Splizard        sure
21:40 NekoGloop       oh, and i also made closed gates be unable to be jumped over
21:40 NekoGloop       Splizard: make my code use the nodeboxes you have for small gates, then pastebin the code for me.
21:40 Splizard        ok
21:40 NekoGloop       thank you
21:41 keegaan         anyone have linux?
21:41 NekoGloop       keegaan: everyone but me :D
21:42 keegaan         ok
21:42 keegaan         i was seein if there is any good stuff to put on it
21:43 NekoGloop       well there's minetest
21:44 _2cool4me4_     I dont' have linux
21:44 _2cool4me4_     toopid neko
21:44 NekoGloop       lol
21:44 keegaan         yea my computer is 1.22 ghz and i get 2 FPS
21:44 NekoGloop       ok everyone but me and 2cool
21:44 _2cool4me4_     Yay!
21:44 _2cool4me4_     wait
21:44 _2cool4me4_     boo
21:44 NekoGloop       keegaan: my comp has 3.4 ghz
21:45 _2cool4me4_     I haz a 2.2ghz quad core
21:45 keegaan         but i can walk on it and uts kinda jumpy
21:45 NekoGloop       why would you walk on a computer?
21:45 _2cool4me4_     and a 3ghz single core upstairs in my media center
21:45 _2cool4me4_     *sorta media center
21:45 keegaan         on the minetest game
21:47 _2cool4me4_     There are a ton of microcontrollers in this project
21:48 frogcrush       lol, getting 4 fps
21:48 _2cool4me4_     I've had worse
21:49 frogcrush       Prolly should install gfx drivers
21:49 frogcrush       I had 1 on my sisters laptop b4 I installed her drivers
21:50 frogcrush       Does minetest have a FPS cap?
21:50 NekoGloop       you can set one
21:50 _2cool4me4_     FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
21:51 frogcrush       The most I can ever get is 60 FPS
21:51 NekoGloop       most i get is 20
21:51 _2cool4me4_     Worldedit shifted half my circuit...
21:51 frogcrush       Thats not bad
21:52 NekoGloop       i set my cap to 25
21:52 VanessaE_       zzz
21:52 frogcrush       I keep trying to see where my hardware limits are
21:52 _2cool4me4_     I'm getting around 30 and my mesecons world is running (ots of microcontrollers)
21:52 * NekoGloop     pokes vanessae
21:53 _2cool4me4_     VanessaE tired
21:53 _2cool4me4_     NO NEKO DON'T
21:53 * NekoGloop     kicks the tree
21:53 _2cool4me4_     That's a registered nick
21:53 frogcrush       lol
21:53 _2cool4me4_     My nick is also registered.
21:53 _2cool4me4_     MY NICK ONLY
21:55 celeron55       to everyone wondering FPSes: minetest has an FPS cap of 60 by default, and it will dynamically set the rendering range to such that it does at least 30 (see minetest.conf.example for options)
21:55 frogcrush       Thanks!
21:55 NekoGloop       ok where the hell do i get direct3d9?
21:56 celeron55       if you have windows, you have it; the problem you are most likely having is that the MinGW builds of irrlicht don't have direct3d support
21:56 NekoGloop       (or any driver that fixes inventory images culling the wrong image)
21:57 celeron55       msvc builds of irrlicht have it 8)
21:57 NekoGloop       celeron55: ok so how do i fix it?
21:57 keegaan         is VanessaE here?
21:57 celeron55       NekoGloop: what are you using now?
21:57 NekoGloop       opengl is what i use
21:58 celeron55       but what build of minetest
21:58 NekoGloop       0.4.2-rc1, what else?
21:58 VanessaE_       I am here, sortq
21:58 VanessaE_       sorta.
21:58 celeron55       aren't sfan5's minetest builds made with MSVC?
21:58 celeron55       (no idea)
21:58 NekoGloop       3b43c69 is the build
21:58 keegaan         never mind i was gonna ask you to help me build minetest
21:58 celeron55       my releases certainly are, but those development builds aren't
21:59 celeron55       (because it's reasier to build with a cross-mingw compiler)
21:59 NekoGloop       your blog release cant use direct3d9 either
21:59 VanessaE_       keegaan: sowwy
21:59 celeron55       NekoGloop: 0.4.2-rc1 isn't a release :P
21:59 keegaan         is there one already built
21:59 celeron55       (or it's a development release)
22:00 NekoGloop       but you compiled it with msvc, correct?
22:00 _2cool4me4_     What the? I found a wire called "you hacker you"
22:01 frogcrush       Yeah, 300+ fps
22:01 frogcrush       _2cool4me4_: A wire?
22:01 _2cool4me4_     A mesecon wire
22:01 NekoGloop       mesecons
22:01 frogcrush       ic
22:01 _2cool4me4_     VanessaE: explain the you hacker you wire plox
22:01 NekoGloop       you gave yourself a wire that you arent supposed to have
22:01 _2cool4me4_     what does it do
22:01 VanessaE_       _2cool4me4_: ask c55, he started that joke ;-)
22:01 NekoGloop       i have no idea, what does it look like?
22:02 _2cool4me4_     I hate it when this happens...
22:02 VanessaE_       and besides, it means you ain't supposed to use it :-)
22:02 _2cool4me4_     why no?
22:02 NekoGloop       there's many things in mesecons with "you hacker you" as their description
22:02 VanessaE_       because there's likely something more correct
22:02 Splizard        NekoGloop: your gates mod creates open and closed gate nodes for every direction, while you can just use facedir param and only need one open and closed gate node
22:02 NekoGloop       Splizard: blame xdoors
22:02 _2cool4me4_     VanessaE_: it's insulated...
22:03 _2cool4me4_     But it doesn't look so
22:03 VanessaE_       _2cool4me4_: eh?  /me looks at the code
22:03 NekoGloop       _2cool4me4_: its the insulated reciever
22:03 _2cool4me4_     But it looks like a normal piece
22:03 NekoGloop       ...
22:03 _2cool4me4_     SO, cured insulated wires soon?
22:03 NekoGloop       i dont care
22:03 NekoGloop       I DONT CARE
22:03 _2cool4me4_     curved*
22:03 _2cool4me4_     Neko, calm
22:04 NekoGloop       NO
22:04 VanessaE_       cured?
22:04 NekoGloop       YOU CANT MAKE Me
22:04 VanessaE_       what?
22:04 * nekokicker    kicks neko
22:04 frogcrush       lol
22:04 Splizard        NekoGloop: do you want me to fix that?
22:05 NekoGloop       sure :P
22:05 _2cool4me4_     VanessaE_: I meant Curved!
22:05 * NekoGloop     kicks 2cool
22:05 _2cool4me4_     ow!
22:05 keegaan         does anyone have a 0.4.2 r1 compiled version that i can have?
22:05 _2cool4me4_     what distro again?
22:06 keegaan         linux
22:06 frogcrush       celeron5: Thanks for adding the FPS cap. Disabled it, got 300-390 FPS, but my CPU went 60C
22:06 frogcrush       *celeron55
22:06 _2cool4me4_     60 degrees? wow
22:06 OldCoder        _2cool4me4_, He wants Ubuntu or Mint
22:07 _2cool4me4_     wimpy cpu
22:07 frogcrush       lol ikr?
22:07 frogcrush       My cooling is not ideal
22:07 _2cool4me4_     frogcrush:mine is at a toasty warm 75C
22:07 NekoGloop       i just burned my hand on my computer
22:07 frogcrush       Mine is usually around 50C
22:08 frogcrush       my hard drive gets up to 60C
22:08 * frogcrush     curses old hard drives
22:08 _2cool4me4_     I only get up to 40C max
22:08 _2cool4me4_     Running at 36
22:08 _2cool4me4_     and this is a laptop
22:08 frogcrush       I never let it get up past 75
22:08 frogcrush       I pull the cord
22:09 frogcrush       So I cant have it OC'd which sux
22:09 _2cool4me4_     I would shut down, but whatever you want
22:09 frogcrush       But 6 3.3GHz cores arent that bad
22:09 frogcrush       And yeah, I try
22:09 _2cool4me4_     mother of...
22:09 _2cool4me4_     Y U WANT MORE
22:09 frogcrush       Hmm?
22:09 MiJyn           ?
22:09 _2cool4me4_     Why would you want more?
22:10 frogcrush       More what?
22:10 frogcrush       Power?
22:10 _2cool4me4_     yep
22:10 frogcrush       Dunno
22:10 frogcrush       ITS A PROBLEM :(
22:10 frogcrush       jk jk
22:10 _2cool4me4_     we are here to help
22:10 NekoGloop       unable*
22:10 * NekoGloop     flees
22:10 * _2cool4me4_   runs after neko and kicks him
22:11 * NekoGloop     ran faster
22:11 NekoGloop       you missed
22:11 * _2cool4me4_   shuts down Neko
22:11 NekoGloop       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuEOngztjw&feature=related :D
22:11 _2cool4me4_     bad robot kitty
22:11 * frogcrush     shoots arrow at neko's knee
22:11 NekoGloop       I'm not a robot
22:11 * _2cool4me4_   slaps NekoGloop with a rainbow trout
22:11 _2cool4me4_     yes you are
22:12 * frogcrush     loves homeschooling funding
22:12 frogcrush       wrong channel
22:12 _2cool4me4_     lolwat
22:12 NekoGloop       good 4 u
22:12 NekoGloop       have a cookie
22:12 * NekoGloop     gives frogcruah a cookie
22:13 _2cool4me4_     Tsk tsk neko, bad ping
22:13 NekoGloop       [18:13] _2cool4me4_ [~IceChat77@138.sub-97-202-189.myvzw.com] requested CTCP PING from NekoGloop: 91858879
22:13 * frogcrush     thanks neko
22:13 NekoGloop       doesnt look bad to me
22:13 NekoGloop       ofc i just get random numbers, like always
22:13 _2cool4me4_     [17:12] [NekoGloop PING Reply] : 1.186 seconds
22:13 NekoGloop       so I'm a whole second off?
22:13 _2cool4me4_     yep
22:14 NekoGloop       not surprised, youtube & minetest are running simulatneously
22:14 _2cool4me4_     but it's okay, I'm still waiting for a reply from myself
22:14 NekoGloop       those two fight for cpu :P
22:14 frogcrush       I see Minetest only runs on one core
22:14 NekoGloop       And i still remember you saying you pinged yourself 2cool
22:15 NekoGloop       for i in ipairs(i_dont_give_a_shit) do give_a_shit() end
22:15 NekoGloop       paradox code
22:15 NekoGloop       :D
22:16 celeron55       hmm, i don't remember how lua handles modifying tables while iterating them
22:16 _2cool4me4_     google it
22:17 NekoGloop       no, for every time you dont give a shit it gives a shit
22:17 NekoGloop       paradox code
22:19 _2cool4me4_     Restart minetest...
22:20 NekoGloop       why?
22:20 keegaan         how do you ceck your temp. on windows?
22:21 celeron55       NekoGloop: but that actually runs in finite time unless you have infinite memory (you don't), and the only thing it does is gives a shit for everything you didn't already give a shit for!
22:21 NekoGloop       MiJyn: what's my ping?
22:21 MiJyn           * Ping reply from NekoGloop: ? second(s)
22:21 VanessaE_       PINGFLOOD NEKO!!
22:21 VanessaE_       * Ping reply from NekoGloop: 0.71 second(s)
22:21 NekoGloop       -_-
22:21 NekoGloop       cool
22:22 MiJyn           * Ping reply from NekoGloop: 0.72 second(s)
22:22 VanessaE_       :)
22:22 NekoGloop       i stopped mietest :D
22:22 MiJyn           hmm
22:22 MiJyn           my own ping is 0.47
22:22 MiJyn           so it took .2 seconds to send, and .27 seconds to receive...
22:22 _2cool4me4_     Do wires hooked up to microcontrollers on non controlled ports still cause lag
22:23 Splizard        NekoGloop: http://pastebin.com/TwycNukR
22:23 _2cool4me4_     sbi(C, A&D)  If I hooked something up to B, would it cause lag?
22:23 VanessaE_       _2cool4me4_: dunno, never tested for that, but I do know the faster a µC runs, the more lag it'll introduce :-)
22:23 _2cool4me4_     Is that an oxymoron?
22:23 NekoGloop       yes and no
22:24 NekoGloop       see-what-i-did-there
22:24 _2cool4me4_     Oh, puhleaze
22:24 VanessaE_       nope.  If you, for example, use one to generate a clock, the server will lag more as you make the clock go faster
22:28 _2cool4me4_     Ohhh
22:28 _2cool4me4_     I have a crapton of them in this ALU right now
22:28 _2cool4me4_     I'd like to see the whole computer
22:28 VanessaE_       (up to 60Hz, at which point the µC of course overheats and pops out)
22:29 _2cool4me4_     CRAP
22:29 _2cool4me4_     I've been doing all this for nothing
22:29 VanessaE_       a crapton?  that's nothing.  you'll be fine once you get up to roughly "metric assload" vicinity :-)
22:29 _2cool4me4_     oh lol
22:29 VanessaE_       once/until*
22:31 NekoGloop       adding stone gates, because stone is awesome
22:33 _2cool4me4_     There, zeroing and negating done
22:34 _2cool4me4_     Phew! This ALU doesn't run on signed numbers
22:34 NekoGloop       ofc not
22:35 _2cool4me4_     ofc?
22:36 NekoGloop       of course
22:36 _2cool4me4_     how you know
22:36 NekoGloop       because what for you have that?
22:36 _2cool4me4_     idk what you just said
22:37 NekoGloop       neither do i :D
22:37 VanessaE_       I don't understand either of you two :-)
22:37 NekoGloop       I'm making mesecons effect steel gates :D
22:37 VanessaE_       you're going to make mesecons signals create gates?
22:38 NekoGloop       no...
22:38 VanessaE_       :)
22:38 NekoGloop       mesecons signal will open a steel gates
22:38 VanessaE_       effect/affect :-)
22:38 NekoGloop       w/e
22:41 NekoGloop       join spam much?
22:42 _2cool4me4_     naw
22:43 UbuntuNerd_     Hello
22:44 VanessaE_       hi
22:44 MiJyn           hi
22:45 _2cool4me4_     Now, How do I make this AND?
22:45 _2cool4me4_     I've mesecon'd myself into a bad situation
22:45 VanessaE_       abi(out, in1&in2) where out, in1, and in2 are the ports you want to use.
22:45 VanessaE_       er, abi()
22:45 VanessaE_       DAMN IT.
22:45 VanessaE_       sbi().
22:45 _2cool4me4_     vanessa, that's not what I meant
22:46 _2cool4me4_     I meant the wiring
22:46 VanessaE_       oh
22:47 UbuntuNerd_     Vanessa do you play minetest or do you just make mods and textures for it?
22:47 VanessaE_       both
22:47 UbuntuNerd_     do you play on servers?
22:47 VanessaE_       I just spend the last few hours helping rebuild on redcrab's server
22:48 UbuntuNerd_     what happened?
22:48 frogcrush       Ouch
22:48 _2cool4me4_     BACKUPS PEOPLE
22:48 VanessaE_       the server's hard drive got full, so the mapgen went haywire and started replacing stuff with newly-generated land.
22:48 UbuntuNerd_     ouch damn
22:49 VanessaE_       from the last maps I saw, it looked like about 10% of the used land got wiped out
22:49 VanessaE_       lots of damage
22:49 UbuntuNerd_     thats why my servers have a 2 TB harddrive
22:50 UbuntuNerd_     why cant i connect to redcrabs server?
22:50 _2cool4me4_     prolly down for rebuild
22:51 VanessaE_       it needs latest git
22:51 _2cool4me4_     or that
22:51 VanessaE_       as in today's latest.
22:51 UbuntuNerd_     i get a error
22:51 * frogcrush     wishes he could have a 2TB hdd
22:51 UbuntuNerd_     i have 3
22:51 * frogcrush     is jealous
22:51 VanessaE_       UbuntuNerd_: you get either a server protocol error or something about the inventory, right?
22:51 UbuntuNerd_     yea inventory
22:52 VanessaE_       your copy is too old.
22:52 UbuntuNerd_     what do you  mean?
22:52 VanessaE_       just what I said. :-)
22:52 VanessaE_       redcrab's server requires yesterday's update at the very least.
22:52 UbuntuNerd_     the version is to old
22:52 UbuntuNerd_     were do i download it github
22:53 _2cool4me4_     many lag to me
22:53 frogcrush       I should make a simple app that downloads and builds the latest :D
22:53 frogcrush       C# CONSOLE FTW
22:53 VanessaE_       UbuntuNerd_: either install the nightly builds PPA, or go here and build it:  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master
22:54 _2cool4me4_     hrm, need to AND these 32 stacked inputs
22:54 _2cool4me4_     this gonna be good
22:54 VanessaE_       or if your machine has the GPU for it, run my build:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40800#p40800
22:55 UbuntuNerd_     ok ill compile it later
22:55 UbuntuNerd_     cyah all later
22:56 NekoGloop       oh look, mr. griefer is back
22:56 keegaan         Hey LandMine
22:57 keegaan         NekoGloop stop being mean
22:57 LandMine        hi keegan
22:57 LandMine        im remaking the map
22:57 keegaan         ok
22:57 _2cool4me4_     does Minetest stop rendering when it loses focus?
22:57 VanessaE_       no
22:57 _2cool4me4_     (windows)
22:57 VanessaE_       at least not in linux.
22:57 LandMine        almost done will post it tommorow....cause im not home
22:58 LandMine        VanessaE is there a way to fix the light after removing  some land with worldedit?
22:58 keegaan         hey Octupus
22:59 LandMine        cause its all shady
22:59 Octupus         good afternoon
22:59 LandMine        i remember there was amod for it
22:59 VanessaE_       LandMine: sorta
23:00 VanessaE_       use //set to add some dirt or something, then //dig to remove iut
23:00 VanessaE_       (always use //dig instead of //replace <node> air )
23:00 _2cool4me4_     The beginnings: http://tinypic.com/r/33beg6e/6
23:00 VanessaE_       see if that helps
23:00 NekoGloop       or place torches everywhere
23:00 LandMine        and that removes the shades? thanks will try tommorow cause im not home
23:02 LandMine        keegaan the one im making now is way better and u wont be able to fall cause of the removed clouds
23:02 keegaan         ok
23:03 LandMine        yah its pretty boss......
23:03 _2cool4me4_     That's the second time I've set the wrong thing to air today
23:05 NekoGloop       lol
23:05 LandMine        lol
23:06 LandMine        theres no way to revert it right?
23:06 NekoGloop       unless you crash minetest so it doesnt save :D
23:07 LandMine        mine crashes when i wanna //set a 250x250 area
23:07 LandMine        other than that is ok
23:09 NekoGloop       i made cobble gates! :D
23:09 NekoGloop       now i just need cobble fences
23:09 frogcrush       congratz :)
23:10 frogcrush       Am I the only one who thinks it would be cool for addons to have a more formal download center?
23:11 NakedFury       no not the only one
23:12 frogcrush       Who maintains the website?
23:12 NekoGloop       c55 i think
23:12 NekoGloop       (minetest.net)
23:13 frogcrush       What about the .com?
23:13 VanessaE_       .com is Deathdealer's site and is not affiliated.
23:13 NekoGloop       nobody: its old and outdated
23:13 frogcrush       o
23:13 VanessaE_       (except for the wiki I think?)
23:14 frogcrush       I would think more ppl would go to the .com than the .net
23:14 frogcrush       At least the .net is ranked higher
23:15 Isabella        yawn... i start school tomorrow
23:15 NakedFury       congratulations
23:15 NekoGloop       good for you
23:15 NakedFury       I started august 15
23:15 Isabella        thx
23:15 frogcrush       ouch
23:15 Isabella        wow early
23:15 VanessaE_       "They're going BACK!"
23:15 VanessaE_       :-)
23:15 NekoGloop       i started 6 weeks ago
23:15 frogcrush       Ive been doin school all summer
23:15 Isabella        wow
23:16 frogcrush       thats what happens when ur lazy and dont do your work and homeshcool :D
23:16 VanessaE_       am I ever glad I don't have to worry about school anymore, not for the last 20 years :-)
23:16 Isabella        hahaha
23:16 NekoGloop       shaddup
23:16 NekoGloop       :D
23:16 frogcrush       lol
23:16 Isabella        i am so tired though
23:17 Isabella        like i could fall alseep on my pc
23:17 VanessaE_       "No more pencils, no more books! No more teacher's dirty looks!"
23:17 NekoGloop       currently: wood, cobble, steel gates(can only be opened with mesecons)
23:17 Isabella        hahaha
23:17 NekoGloop       er...
23:17 NekoGloop       wood and cobble can be opened by punching
23:17 NekoGloop       steel cant
23:17 Isabella        :-)
23:17 frogcrush       Isabella: Your name keeps making me think of Phineas and Ferb
23:17 frogcrush       ;)
23:17 Isabella        why???
23:17 NekoGloop       oh god no
23:18 cosarara97      Isabella: Because in Phineas and Ferb there's a girl called Isabella
23:18 Isabella        oh yea
23:18 frogcrush       And loves to go, "Whatcha dooooin?"
23:18 VanessaE        there.
23:18 Isabella        yea :)
23:18 VanessaE        be gone insolent devil underscore :-)
23:18 NekoGloop       splizard's nodeboxes were also implemented
23:19 NekoGloop       now... any other materials before i release?
23:19 VanessaE        no. :-)
23:19 NekoGloop       ok
23:21 Isabella        what about mese
23:21 VanessaE        no
23:21 frogcrush       How do you pronounce that? Mese...
23:21 VanessaE        mese should remain special.
23:21 VanessaE        "mees" like "fleece"
23:21 VanessaE        at least that's how I pronounce it.
23:21 NekoGloop       me-s
23:22 frogcrush       Cool
23:23 NekoGloop       VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40875#p40875 requesting move ;)
23:23 Isabella        lol
23:23 VanessaE        what's with these ridiculously tiny thumbnails? :-)
23:23 NekoGloop       omploader
23:23 NekoGloop       anyway they're outdated
23:23 NekoGloop       from ver. 1.0
23:24 VanessaE        put some new ones up :-)
23:24 NekoGloop       splizard's nodeboxes are in 1.1
23:24 VanessaE        and btw, you don't need to use thumbnails with ompldr.
23:24 NekoGloop       fine, fine :D
23:24 VanessaE        you can link to full-size images too
23:24 NekoGloop       how do i do that?
23:25 VanessaE        simple:
23:25 VanessaE        [img]http://ompldr.org/vZmNudg.jpg[/img]
23:25 VanessaE        don't wrap it in [url] tabs.
23:25 VanessaE        tags.
23:25 VanessaE        i.e. don't do this:  [url=http://ompldr.org/vZmNudg][img]http://ompldr.org/tZmNudg[/img][/url]
23:25 VanessaE        do the above instead.
23:26 NekoGloop       k
23:28 NekoGloop       now i've updated & fixed screenshots
23:29 VanessaE        better.
23:30 NekoGloop       ok... so y u no move it? :D
23:30 VanessaE        Strange, it looks to me like it's in Mod Releases already ;)
23:31 frogcrush       bai all
23:31 NekoGloop       oh
23:31 NekoGloop       refreshing the webpage does nothing to minetest.net for some reason, i forgot :)
23:32 NekoGloop       that was the most intellectual quit message ever
23:33 NekoGloop       VanessaE: i think you'd like the gates, try them out sometime
23:34 VanessaE        I might consider it :
23:34 VanessaE        :D
23:36 NekoGloop       now if only there were steel and cobble fences to go with my gates
23:37 VanessaE        there are.   http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=543
23:37 VanessaE        dunno if that mod still works though
23:37 NekoGloop       oh right
23:37 NekoGloop       but i meant xfences
23:39 VanessaE        eh.
23:40 NekoGloop       i forgot how to craft a button
23:40 NekoGloop       switch*
23:41 VanessaE        ok, time for you to fork xfences too ;-)
23:41 NekoGloop       xfences isnt on github
23:41 VanessaE        so download it, tweak it, upload the result
23:41 NekoGloop       i know
23:41 VanessaE        doesn't really have to be a true fork, per se
23:42 NekoGloop       i could do that if i werent lazy as hell
23:42 VanessaE        and, btw, it is:
23:42 VanessaE        https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods
23:42 NekoGloop       ok?
23:42 VanessaE        ( https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods/tree/master/xfences )
23:42 _2cool4me4_     Okay... now I should be able to AND these...
23:42 NekoGloop       how do i craft a switch?
23:42 VanessaE        um..
23:43 VanessaE        good question! :-)
23:43 _2cool4me4_     use creative
23:43 VanessaE        - - -
23:43 VanessaE        S C S
23:43 VanessaE        M - M
23:43 NekoGloop       I'm playing my mock-survival world
23:43 VanessaE        C = Cobble, S = Steel, M = mesecon wire
23:43 NekoGloop       damn I'm out of steel
23:44 NekoGloop       wait no i'm not
23:44 NekoGloop       i just left it in the furnace
23:44 VanessaE        for a wall lever,
23:44 VanessaE        - Mesecon -
23:44 VanessaE        -  Stone  -
23:44 VanessaE        -  Stick  -
23:44 VanessaE        http://mesecons.net23.net/items.html
23:45 _2cool4me4_     This ALU may be suprisingly compact! :D
23:45 LandMine        cool now stfu
23:46 VanessaE        that reminds me, does anyone have a copy of the texture file I used to make this?   http://mesecons.net23.net/textures/mesecon_insulated.png
23:46 VanessaE        (I lost my copy and github doesn't seem to have it either)
23:46 _2cool4me4_     landmine. I...I
23:46 * _2cool4me4_   begins crying
23:47 LandMine        umad?
23:48 _2cool4me4_     VanessaE, why is landmine so mean?
23:48 VanessaE        I dunno
23:49 LandMine        u fail  2cool kill urself
23:49 _2cool4me4_     uhh
23:49 _2cool4me4_     Hmm
23:50 _2cool4me4_     well, now that suicidal thoughts aren't in my head
23:50 NekoGloop       that's not his ip at all
23:50 NekoGloop       he may be able to change it but he cant change the first two parts
23:51 _2cool4me4_     Well, I feel bad now
23:51 _2cool4me4_     I'ma do a whois
23:52 RealBadAngel    do whowas
23:52 _2cool4me4_     somewhere in Mexico?
23:52 VanessaE        evening RBA.
23:52 RealBadAngel    hi ho
23:52 VanessaE        _2cool4me4_: he uses a proxy based there, no doubt
23:52 _2cool4me4_     ahh
23:53 Isabella        lol
23:53 _2cool4me4_     crap
23:53 Isabella        what?
23:53 * Isabella      is confused
23:53 RealBadAngel    dont think it was a proxy
23:53 _2cool4me4_     I would like to know something about who that was
23:53 Isabella        huh?
23:53 RealBadAngel    last part it was his ip
23:53 VanessaE        RealBadAngel: he claims to have 100+ IP's at his command.
23:54 _2cool4me4_     That's illegal
23:54 NekoGloop       he lives in mexico dont he?
23:54 Isabella        im soooooo tired!!!!!!!!
23:54 _2cool4me4_     /expensive
23:54 Isabella        gotta go :P bye
23:54 LandMine        lol neko
23:54 Isabella        starting school tommorow!!
23:54 Isabella        byes
23:55 RealBadAngel    IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
23:55 RealBadAngel    201.141.68.206	Mexico	Distrito Federal	Mexico City	Cablevision S.a. De C.v.
23:55 _2cool4me4_     I've seen it
23:55 LandMine        vpn buddy :)
23:55 LandMine        ask vannesa
23:55 _2cool4me4_     I'm watching u landmine
23:56 VanessaE        don't look at me, I have nothing to do with whatever he uses.
23:56 LandMine        yeah well fuck u
23:56 Octupuslegs     MRTUX
23:56 Octupuslegs     hello miseal
23:56 mrtux           wat
23:56 Octupuslegs     i left some thing on the forum sight
23:56 RealBadAngel    vpn or whatever
23:56 LandMine        2cool i hear ur incest......hi octupus
23:56 RealBadAngel    ban it
23:56 Octupuslegs     yours topic about the server
23:56 Octupuslegs     can u read it pwease
23:56 Keegann         stop picking on LandMine
23:57 Octupuslegs     lol thats the first thing keegans says Hi keegan
23:57 LandMine        lol
23:57 LandMine        yeah we are bff now
23:57 Octupuslegs     cool
23:57 _2cool4me4_     Keegan: We picking on him now?
23:57 _2cool4me4_     Hmm?
23:57 LandMine        im as sweet as honey now
23:57 _2cool4me4_     I kick ur face
23:57 Octupuslegs     so y were u cussing out vannessa
23:58 Keegann         me?
23:58 Octupuslegs     no Lm
23:58 LandMine        cause im secretly in love with her
23:58 RealBadAngel    http://webchat.freenode.net/ and his ip
23:58 Octupuslegs     XD
23:58 LandMine        yup
23:58 RealBadAngel    those two shall be banned
23:58 Octupuslegs     ME?
23:58 _2cool4me4_     Landmine:  cool now stfu
23:58 Keegann         nope
23:58 _2cool4me4_     y u mean to me?
23:59 _2cool4me4_     *exact quote8
23:59 Octupuslegs     mrtux did u read it?
23:59 mrtux           yes
23:59 mrtux           no
23:59 NekoGloop       maybe?
23:59 mrtux           i'm busy
23:59 LandMine        2cool when u were concieved was it considered beastiality?