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Time Nick Message
00:00 _2cool4me4_ I'm feeling very conflicted right now
00:00 _2cool4me4_ can someone unvoice him?
00:00 VanessaE landmind, stop now.
00:00 VanessaE landmine even.
00:00 cornernote joined #minetest
00:01 _2cool4me4_ Now I'ma go back to my APU
00:01 _2cool4me4_ ALU
00:01 Keegann VanesaE how do you d that script to start my server
00:01 LandMine k vanessa just cause i love u sweethear
00:02 VanessaE Keegann: just type the path and filename in a terminal:  /home/keega/minetestserver.sh
00:02 Octupuslegs is it back up yet keegan?
00:02 NekoGloop wall switches give off light?
00:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: a very small amount, yes.
00:03 _2cool4me4_ normal mesecons take it away
00:03 keegaan the launcher VanessaE
00:03 keegaan LandMine im getting the map right now
00:03 VanessaE keegaan: depends on your desktop environment.
00:03 keegaan ts nj the home folder
00:03 _2cool4me4_ keegaan:remember to back it up! :P
00:04 keegaan back what up?
00:04 _2cool4me4_ teh map
00:04 keegaan why
00:04 _2cool4me4_ Always backup
00:04 LandMine but im on my phone keegan i cant play today
00:04 keegaan why
00:04 _2cool4me4_ because you can
00:04 keegaan because i dont need to
00:05 VanessaE everyone needs backups, keegan.
00:05 _2cool4me4_ suit yourself
00:05 keegaan um its a survival map
00:05 _2cool4me4_ Still
00:05 VanessaE it is standard procedure when you use a computer.  Always have backups of your personal files.
00:05 Octupuslegs yes keegan i think u shud after what happned to my beutiful hotel
00:05 LandMine yeah the 1 i made
00:05 _2cool4me4_ Is that the one we were on the other night keegan?
00:06 keegaan yea so i have to reset the map everytime the round finishes
00:06 keegaan brb
00:06 LandMine yup
00:06 _2cool4me4_ nice job LandMine
00:06 LandMine 2coolstfu
00:06 _2cool4me4_ ugh
00:06 LandMine i know its cool
00:06 LandMine im making it way better
00:07 _2cool4me4_ I don't really think so, but I'll tolerate you
00:07 LandMine im bout half way
00:07 keegaan VanessaE the launcher?
00:07 keegaan what do i do
00:07 SpeedProg joined #minetest
00:07 VanessaE it depends on your desktop environment, keegan
00:07 Octupuslegs keegan is it back up?
00:07 keegaan yea
00:07 VanessaE you will need to muddle your way through this one.
00:08 keegaan the map is save on my desktop and when the round or wh\atever ends i put a newmap to reset it all
00:09 LandMine mannnnn i wanna play :[
00:10 _2cool4me4_ VanessaE: are there any plans for curved mesecon curved insulated wire
00:10 Octupuslegs where do i download msvcr100.dll?
00:11 VanessaE curved mesecons? such already exists.  bent/curved insulated?  I dunno about that one.  Up to Jeija, though I know he wants vertical ones anyway
00:11 LandMine google
00:15 LandMine hmmmm my balls itch
00:15 hmmmm ....that's fantastic, please don't tell me about it
00:16 NekoGloop LOL
00:16 keegaan haha
00:16 NekoGloop why is copper so rare?
00:17 keegaan cause it is
00:18 keegaan LandMine what is the spawn
00:18 keegaan cords?
00:19 _2cool4me4_ what is the nodename for straigt mesecons wire?
00:19 keegaan LandMine?
00:19 LandMine its in the thread
00:19 VanessaE mesecons:mesecon_off ?
00:19 keegaan ok
00:20 LandMine i dont have them at hand
00:20 _2cool4me4_ vanessaE: worldedit gives me invalid node name
00:20 Octupuslegs VANEESAAAAAAaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
00:20 Octupuslegs what are u trying to place?
00:20 _2cool4me4_ A mesecon wire
00:20 keegaan haha
00:21 NekoGloop mesecons:wire_00000000_off
00:21 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: maybe mesecons:mes...yeah, that
00:21 _2cool4me4_ Thanks you guys!
00:21 keegaan LandMine you should have more weapons
00:21 _2cool4me4_ and gal
00:21 LandMine well i just used the default mods
00:21 LandMine and more mods like tnt
00:21 LandMine and traps
00:22 LandMine etc etc
00:22 LandMine should make it more fun
00:22 NekoGloop add toolsizes, that's a shitload of weapons right there
00:23 Octupuslegs BYE
00:23 _2cool4me4_ Oh neko, leave it to you to advertise your mods
00:23 LandMine lol
00:23 NekoGloop yup
00:24 LandMine u know what would make it fun? the workers mod
00:24 NekoGloop me and vanessae
00:24 LandMine it has those bodygaurd dudes
00:24 LandMine that should make it interesting
00:24 _2cool4me4_ how long are the rounds again?
00:24 LandMine 15 min
00:25 NekoGloop i want something to do, what's the server address?
00:25 keegaan how do i change world
00:25 NekoGloop I HAZ AIR
00:25 NekoGloop I IZ HAXXOR
00:25 NekoGloop :D
00:26 _2cool4me4_ you hacker you
00:26 LandMine lol
00:26 NekoGloop i was mining a lot of gravel
00:26 keegaan why wont it change to the newmap?
00:26 _2cool4me4_ what's the nodename?
00:26 _2cool4me4_ :P
00:27 NekoGloop nodename?
00:27 NekoGloop of air?
00:27 NekoGloop __builtin:air
00:27 NekoGloop or air
00:27 NekoGloop it gets aliased
00:27 _2cool4me4_ Y U FLOOD
00:28 keegaan VanessaE?
00:30 NekoGloop i didnt flood :D
00:30 NekoGloop keegaan: when you get the server up, tell me the address
00:30 LandMine no neko
00:30 keegaan 20:30:22: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found.
00:31 LandMine VannessaEg come solve this now!!!!!
00:32 NekoGloop highlight fail is fail
00:33 LandMine yeah w.e
00:34 _2cool4me4_ Landmine y u has 2 personas?
00:34 keegaan so anyone have a clue to fix this
00:34 LandMine no
00:34 LandMine i dont
00:35 LandMine who is the second?
00:35 _2cool4me4_ idk, but sometimes u nice sometimes u not
00:35 LandMine ohhh stfu noob
00:35 _2cool4me4_ mhmm
00:35 keegaan haha likeme :)
00:36 _2cool4me4_ I ignores landmine
00:36 keegaan why
00:36 LandMine cool :)
00:36 _2cool4me4_ he doesn't like me for some reason
00:36 keegaan i see y
00:36 ttk2 joined #minetest
00:36 _2cool4me4_ so I go on with useful work
00:36 LandMine 2cool we got off the wrong foot buddy
00:36 LandMine let me start over
00:37 LandMine hi 2 cool how u doin?
00:37 LandMine _2cool4me4_
00:37 keegaan _2cool4me4_ LandMine is talking to you
00:38 NekoGloop he ignored you, landtroll-- i mean landmine
00:38 _2cool4me4_ I'm sure he has a lot to say now
00:38 LandMine lo
00:38 keegaan dude give him a chance]
00:38 _2cool4me4_ Says the Nekotroll
00:38 LandMine fuck him then
00:38 _2cool4me4_ not you keegan
00:39 NekoGloop no, I'm not nekotroll
00:39 NekoGloop that's my cousin
00:39 keegaan hahaha
00:39 _2cool4me4_ Oh lol
00:39 NekoGloop maybe you should meet, you might be friends ;)
00:39 keegaan c55?
00:40 keegaan celeron55?
00:40 LandMine nekogloop i bet ur molested by ur local priest!
00:40 NekoGloop there is no local preist
00:41 NekoGloop and what show is that from... i remember that...
00:42 LandMine its just what ur cousin told me brah
00:42 bas080 joined #minetest
00:42 NekoGloop well nekotroll is justa trollin then
00:43 keegaan :(
00:43 bas080 Hey NekoGloop
00:43 NekoGloop hello bas080
00:43 keegaan >:(
00:43 VanessaE evening bas080
00:43 _2cool4me4_ evening
00:43 NekoGloop i made a fence gate mod, maybe you'd like it? I know you like mods that alter gameplay
00:44 bas080 VanessaE, good evening to u too
00:44 _2cool4me4_ I still don't have one adder put in this ALU yet
00:44 LandMine why in hell arent there pistons that go up and down
00:44 VanessaE there are.
00:44 LandMine noooooo
00:44 NekoGloop LandMine: shut yer yap and put one in the crafting grid
00:44 keegaan LandMine what game did you do this ex. minetest_game
00:44 LandMine i cant just place them to the sides
00:44 NekoGloop bas080: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2943 fence gates.
00:44 LandMine minetest_game
00:45 _2cool4me4_ neko, if you don't like what he says, type /ignore
00:45 keegaan ok
00:45 keegaan i see the problem
00:45 bas080 School has officially started. I just might be able to use minetest in one of mine school projects :P
00:45 LandMine dude we played it last time keegaan has to work still
00:45 _2cool4me4_ bas080: good luck
00:45 keegaan but this is a different OS
00:45 LandMine i hyavent updated it since
00:45 _2cool4me4_ School starts for me tomorrow
00:45 keegaan me too
00:45 bas080 NekoGloop, I have checked it out. Wasn't there a gates mod before?
00:46 NekoGloop school starts for me in -6 days
00:46 NekoGloop bas080: yes but it crashed for me.
00:46 LandMine vanessae how do i set up and down pistons?
00:46 _2cool4me4_ I don't care, it just re-motivates me to get work done
00:46 bas080 ok. so you fixed the crash and added some features...
00:46 VanessaE neko already said.
00:47 NekoGloop bas080: steel gates are mesecon only, so you dont lose that ability
00:47 NekoGloop (if you dont want to use mesecons just remove it from the depends.txt, like it says in the post)
00:47 bas080 NekoGloop, nice feature 4 sure! and no jumping over them!
00:47 NekoGloop yup
00:47 NekoGloop wanted to make them work right with xfences
00:48 keegaan ITS UP
00:48 keegaan but i cant play :(
00:48 NekoGloop cobble gates as well, i figured someone would find a use
00:48 NekoGloop keegaan: server address and port?
00:48 _2cool4me4_ How the heck did I overheat those microcontrollers?
00:48 LandMine why? keegaan?
00:48 keegaan keegor.servegame.com
00:48 keegaan port 30000
00:48 keegaan i am supposed to bein bed for school but i dont wantto sleep right nw
00:49 NekoGloop may i ask why the hell i spawned in lava?
00:49 _2cool4me4_ uhh
00:49 _2cool4me4_ *whistles*
00:49 keegaan because i hateyou JK
00:50 _2cool4me4_ if that's the same map from the other night
00:50 _2cool4me4_ and it hasn't been reset
00:50 NekoGloop i see
00:51 NekoGloop so anyone want to pvp?
00:51 bas080 They don't look like gates. http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2572/screenshot725057651.png
00:51 keegaan now it should be the right place
00:51 bas080 NekoGloop
00:52 keegaan gtg
00:52 LandMine laterx
00:52 bas080 cya keegaan
00:52 NekoGloop they look fine to me.... and yell at splizard if you dont like the nodebox ;)
00:52 keegaan well ill still be on but ill be in bed on my ipod
00:52 keegaan before i get in trouble
00:53 bas080 love you splizzard with awesome snow biomess
00:54 NekoGloop someone come on and do pvp with me?
00:54 _2cool4me4_ Dang wraparound bus that reverses the output
00:54 NekoGloop LandMine?
00:54 keegaan lqdmine cant
00:54 NekoGloop whatever
00:54 LandMine im on my phone
00:54 keegaan hes on ipod or whatever
00:54 NekoGloop _2cool4me4_?
00:55 LandMine yeah tommorow once i release v2.0 ill play all day with yall
00:55 keegaan illbe at gay school
00:56 _2cool4me4_ nekogloop: wat
00:56 NekoGloop want to pvp on keegan's server?
00:56 keegaan who wants to play with you
00:56 keegaan he*
00:56 _2cool4me4_ I have horrible ping
00:56 _2cool4me4_ but sure
00:56 keegaan you guys know how to do it?
00:56 _2cool4me4_ what's the version keegan
00:57 keegaan 0.4.2 r1
00:57 keegaan push the button to begin
00:57 NekoGloop what button?
00:57 _2cool4me4_ don't push it yet!
00:57 NekoGloop i know
00:57 NekoGloop you timed out already
00:58 LandMine lets see who wins
00:58 _2cool4me4_ bad serialization
00:58 _2cool4me4_ I don't see why
00:58 keegaan ?
00:58 NekoGloop why server shutdown? :(
00:59 keegaan sorry
00:59 keegaan i need a easy way to start my server back up
00:59 LandMine fagg overload
00:59 NekoGloop minetest crashed -_-
01:00 _2cool4me4_ I love the advanced features in Microcontrollers
01:00 keegaan LandMine lol
01:00 NekoGloop ... -_-
01:00 _2cool4me4_ Good thing I can't see what he says
01:00 NekoGloop stop
01:00 NekoGloop shutting
01:00 NekoGloop down
01:00 NekoGloop the
01:00 _2cool4me4_ neko, ignore him
01:00 NekoGloop server
01:01 * NekoGloop is waaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiting
01:01 keegaan start at spawn and push the button
01:01 NekoGloop oh i know
01:01 _2cool4me4_ is it up?
01:01 NekoGloop hah when i take something out of a chest the server shuts down
01:02 keegaan yea NekoBlopp is shutting it down
01:02 NekoGloop sorry
01:02 _2cool4me4_ bloop?
01:02 NekoGloop I'll jsut leave the chest alone
01:02 _2cool4me4_ Bad idea
01:02 _2cool4me4_ those are useful
01:02 LandMine it has lava and water
01:02 LandMine and coa and sticka
01:03 NekoGloop i took the lava and water already
01:03 _2cool4me4_ I can't connect
01:03 LandMine lol who  is playing
01:04 keegaan bloop
01:04 keegaan start he games
01:05 LandMine nekogloop who is playing?
01:05 NekoGloop i think me and 2cool
01:05 NekoGloop if he can stop timing out
01:05 keegaan
01:05 _2cool4me4_ no I can't
01:05 _2cool4me4_ A serialization error occured
01:05 keegaan wat is ur timing out problem
01:05 _2cool4me4_ I just said?
01:06 NekoGloop get a different build
01:06 keegaan get a better cpu
01:06 _2cool4me4_ I've used 2 so far
01:06 NekoGloop get sfan5's build from two days ago
01:06 _2cool4me4_ keegaan, that's not it
01:06 keegaan u sure
01:06 _2cool4me4_ yes
01:07 _2cool4me4_ what's the build number?
01:08 NekoGloop 3b43c69
01:09 NekoGloop where is this button that i eventually have to press?
01:09 _2cool4me4_ lol
01:09 LandMine the one in the room in the middle of the teleporter
01:10 _2cool4me4_ download not working
01:10 _2cool4me4_ god, this hates me
01:10 NekoGloop teleporter?
01:10 LandMine the one in the wool room
01:10 NekoGloop i'm not seeing any wool
01:10 _2cool4me4_ download started
01:10 LandMine on the oppisite side of the rule board
01:10 NekoGloop rule board?
01:11 NekoGloop i have a feeling i didnt spawn in the right place
01:11 LandMine u have to be in a room like at 75 height
01:11 LandMine mayb enter with another account
01:12 NekoGloop ok
01:12 NekoGloop that was wierd
01:12 _2cool4me4_ download finished
01:12 NekoGloop y unknown blocks?
01:12 LandMine cause theres no wool i guess
01:12 _2cool4me4_ idk
01:12 LandMine but its wool
01:13 LandMine can u see the one in the middle? it has a P on it
01:13 _2cool4me4_ I'm at 53 percent
01:13 _2cool4me4_ 80
01:13 NekoGloop yup i can see that one
01:13 _2cool4me4_ 87
01:13 _2cool4me4_ 90
01:13 _2cool4me4_ 93
01:14 LandMine yeah hit it only when ur ready
01:14 _2cool4me4_ holding
01:14 LandMine cause u cant restart it
01:14 NekoGloop Anyone else wanna pvp?
01:14 _2cool4me4_ I'm not loading anything
01:15 NekoGloop some things are unknown blocks?
01:15 NekoGloop i'm seeing that too
01:15 _2cool4me4_ yep
01:15 _2cool4me4_ I'm not loading chunks
01:15 NekoGloop supposed to be wool but /mods says there's no wool
01:16 _2cool4me4_ mods seem to be broken
01:16 NekoGloop so we gonna start or what?
01:16 _2cool4me4_ I can't
01:16 NekoGloop why not?
01:17 _2cool4me4_ teleporter bwoke
01:17 LandMine wtf
01:17 LandMine they work perfectly :s
01:17 NekoGloop lets just hit the P block see what happens
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01:19 LandMine after u hit it u have 15 min
01:19 LandMine before the cloud block start dissapearing
01:21 LandMine well bitches and gentleman tttyl
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01:36 _2cool4me4_ that was interesting
01:37 NekoGloop i thought the pvp started, and you had 15 mins to play
01:37 _2cool4me4_ no, 15 minutes to build
01:37 _2cool4me4_ :P
01:37 _2cool4me4_ and I had horrible ping the whole time
01:38 NekoGloop lol
01:39 NekoGloop i went from mod-overload to hardly any mods at all
01:39 NekoGloop (my singleplayer worlds have mod-overload :D)
01:40 _2cool4me4_ iTired
01:40 NekoGloop iDontCare
01:40 _2cool4me4_ iGotoschooltomorrow
01:40 NekoGloop iGoToCollegeTommorow
01:40 _2cool4me4_ lolwat
01:41 NekoGloop :D
01:41 _2cool4me4_ Guess it's time to quit
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01:47 NekoGloop hmmm....
01:47 NekoGloop could maze mod be changed to register on map generation instead
01:47 NekoGloop i'd like randomly made mazes in my world :)
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02:12 mrtux dat virtualbox
02:13 mrtux resets my connection when i close it
02:15 VanessaE there.  HDX pack updated for latest mesecons.  At least, I think ;)
02:15 VanessaE evening mrtux
02:15 mrtux thanks
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02:16 NekoGloop ok how long was i gone? :/
02:16 VanessaE about 12 mins.
02:17 NekoGloop did anyone respond?
02:18 VanessaE to what?
02:18 NekoGloop to what i said
02:18 NekoGloop mazes being generated in the map
02:18 VanessaE the bit about mazes in mapgen? no
02:18 NekoGloop as long as i didnt miss anything
02:19 VanessaE mrtux joined :-)
02:19 mrtux joined what?
02:19 VanessaE the channel? :-)
02:20 mrtux wait wat channel>
02:20 NekoGloop he's been here...
02:20 VanessaE oh, so he has :-)
02:20 VanessaE I'm blind, ignore me :-)
02:20 NekoGloop :D
02:23 NekoGloop ok i changed the maze code so that any items can appear in chests generated by it
02:23 VanessaE oh, you also missed my HDX update.
02:24 NekoGloop now how do i stop pipes/tubes/wires of the different orientations from generating in the chests?
02:24 VanessaE In the chests??
02:24 NekoGloop i have one chest that is LOADED with you hacker you
02:24 VanessaE screenshot?
02:24 NekoGloop yes the chests in the maze mod
02:25 NekoGloop er... cant take screenshots with the inventory open
02:25 NekoGloop sorry :/
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02:25 VanessaE printscreen
02:25 UbuntuNerd Vannesa
02:25 VanessaE hi UbuntuNerd
02:25 NekoGloop forgot abotu that :D
02:25 UbuntuNerd how do you setup this chat with HexChat
02:25 VanessaE I don't use HexChat.  I use Xchat.
02:26 NekoGloop i use WebChat
02:26 UbuntuNerd Ill get Xchat does it work with Linux?
02:26 VanessaE of course.
02:26 VanessaE it's probably in your repository
02:27 UbuntuNerd and how do you set it up
02:27 VanessaE it should be self-explanatory
02:27 VanessaE just try it :-)
02:27 VanessaE use freenode for the network, #minetest for the channel to join
02:28 NekoGloop irc.freenode.net
02:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: freenode is already in xchat's network list.
02:28 UbuntuNerd ok so its like the main page of webchat
02:28 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: dunno, I've never used it.
02:28 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZmNzZg here you be
02:28 VanessaE (the webchat that is)
02:28 UbuntuNerd ok thnx
02:28 VanessaE EW, a BMP
02:28 NekoGloop note that the textures are loading wrong
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02:29 NekoGloop but the pipes/tubes are just loading other pipes/tubes as their textures
02:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: your copy of pipeworks is old.
02:29 VanessaE those pipes/tubes don't drop anything except for pipe/tube_110000 now.
02:29 NekoGloop i know
02:30 NekoGloop i'm making the chests spawned by maze mod use all the different items
02:30 NekoGloop (not just default)
02:30 VanessaE I don't understand
02:30 NekoGloop maze mod spawns chests as treasure in its mazes
02:30 VanessaE sure
02:30 VanessaE and..?
02:30 NekoGloop these chests usually only contain items from default
02:30 NekoGloop i removed that check
02:31 VanessaE ahhh
02:31 VanessaE well all of those excess pipes are already not in the creative inventory anymore
02:31 NekoGloop how do i check if an item is in the creative inventory? i think that will do for what i want.
02:31 VanessaE so try upgrading pipeworks?
02:31 VanessaE else I have no idea :-)
02:31 VanessaE except
02:31 NekoGloop VanessaE: its mesecons wires as well
02:31 VanessaE the group ID is not_in_creative_inventory=1
02:32 NekoGloop which i KNOW is not in the creative inventory
02:32 VanessaE so if that's set for the chosen node, don't add it to the chest
02:32 NekoGloop how would i check that?
02:33 NekoGloop if item.groups[not_in_creative_inventory] == nil then
02:33 VanessaE minetest.get_item_group(name, group)
02:33 NekoGloop that's the line of code i have right now
02:33 NekoGloop oh i see
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02:33 UbuntuNerd Its not working
02:33 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: did you select Freenode as the network?
02:34 UbuntuNerd o lolz i make a new network
02:34 VanessaE UbuntuNerd: don't do that.  use the predefined one.
02:34 NekoGloop VanessaE: is the second arguement (group) in quotes?
02:34 NekoGloop i.e. is it a string?
02:34 VanessaE NekoGloop: if you're giving it a string yeah, but it could be a variable too I guess
02:34 NekoGloop ok
02:35 NekoGloop so i give it a string, whether from a variable or from a string
02:35 VanessaE yeah
02:35 NekoGloop gonna test it now
02:35 VanessaE good luck :-)
02:36 NekoGloop i'll need it
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02:36 UbuntuNerd_2 hello
02:36 VanessaE there you are, UbuntuNerd_2
02:36 NekoGloop oh no!
02:36 NekoGloop ubuntunerd found my cloning device!
02:36 UbuntuNerd_2 can you change the color of the text
02:37 VanessaE yes, look at the preferences
02:37 VanessaE fiddle with colors 16-31 only.
02:37 VanessaE do not change 0-15.
02:37 UbuntuNerd_2 cool thnx
02:38 NekoGloop lol the chest i found is now empty
02:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: well that's a start :D
02:38 NekoGloop i think i did something wrong ;)
02:38 VanessaE at least it isn't accusing you of being a hacker :D
02:39 NekoGloop LOL
02:39 NekoGloop i suppose i could check the item name manually
02:39 UbuntuNerd_2 cloning device?
02:39 VanessaE no, just look for the group setting
02:40 NekoGloop i tried that
02:40 VanessaE then you did it wrong;)
02:40 NekoGloop it gave me an empty chest
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02:40 NekoGloop oh its not supposed to be a string
02:40 VanessaE what is it?
02:41 VanessaE surely not a table
02:41 LandMine U finished playing nekogloop?
02:41 NekoGloop just without the quotes, it seems
02:41 VanessaE strange
02:41 NekoGloop landmine: well the server was used
02:41 VanessaE well if it works..
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02:44 UbuntuNerd hello
02:44 NakedFury hello
02:45 NekoGloop I'm going in circles...
02:45 NekoGloop and not finding the chest...
02:45 LandMine What chest?
02:46 NekoGloop maze mod
02:46 LandMine Ohhh
02:46 LandMine K
02:46 NekoGloop I'm changing it
02:46 LandMine +cnt
02:46 NekoGloop so that the chests can have items from other mods
02:46 LandMine Kk I get i
02:47 NekoGloop lol the maze ended in another maze that i made previously
02:47 LandMine +t somestuff
02:47 NekoGloop i give up
02:47 NekoGloop mese pickaxe to the rescue
02:48 LandMine Lol
02:48 NekoGloop did the chest seriously just not spawn?
02:51 NekoGloop ok the chest hates me
02:51 NekoGloop it gave me NOTHING
02:51 NekoGloop again -_-
02:51 LandMine What is it supposed to give u?
02:52 NekoGloop anything
02:52 NekoGloop SOMEthing
02:53 NekoGloop some exception my ass
02:53 VanessaE haha
02:54 NekoGloop "The Continuing Adventures of NekoGloop and the Evil Some Exception!!!! Buy it in your local bookstore today!"
02:55 UbuntuNerd Hey Vanessa wood you join my forums?
02:55 UbuntuNerd would*
02:55 VanessaE no thanks, I stick to the main forums only
02:55 UbuntuNerd ok
02:56 UbuntuNerd could you at least try my Minetest Server
02:56 SmugLeaf NO
02:56 LandMine Lol
02:56 LandMine What's ur forum ubuntu nerd?
02:56 UbuntuNerd http://minetestforums.weebly.com/
02:57 LandMine I see
02:57 UbuntuNerd does my forums look ok?
02:57 VanessaE "General Discussion
02:57 VanessaE Discuss About Minetest Bugs & Idea's "
02:57 VanessaE Ideas does not need an apostrophe.
02:58 LandMine Lol
02:58 VanessaE ditto for the "Mod's" forum.  lose the apostrophe.
02:58 SmugLeaf apostrophe is posessive
02:59 LandMine Id say stick to the main site
03:00 UbuntuNerd ok ill delete it
03:00 SmugLeaf looks like
03:00 SmugLeaf geocities
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03:00 LandMine Yah.....or make it a portfolio
03:00 VanessaE http://www.angryflower.com/aposter.html
03:00 LandMine With just ur stuff
03:00 UbuntuNerd no nvm ill make it a forum for my stuff
03:01 UbuntuNerd my stuff and my friends stuff
03:01 LandMine Kk
03:03 UbuntuNerd cyah all later
03:03 LandMine VanessaE what u doin hot stuff?
03:05 NekoGloop i just realized what time it is
03:05 NekoGloop good night folks
03:05 NekoGloop see you eventually
03:05 LandMine Later
03:05 VanessaE night neko
03:06 LandMine VanessaE why u acting hard to get baby?
03:13 LandMine Well this thing dies quickly
03:18 VanessaE think I'll head off to bed.
03:18 VanessaE night all
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03:23 LandMine Hello
03:25 NakedFury hello
03:30 LandMine Hello good sir
03:33 LandMine NakedFury are u from uk?
03:33 LandMine Is ot true everyone there have bad teeth?
03:34 NakedFury not from uk
03:34 LandMine Where from?
03:34 NakedFury puerto rico
03:35 LandMine Really? That's cool
03:35 LandMine U hear reggaeton?
03:35 NakedFury no
03:35 NakedFury cant stand it
03:36 LandMine Wtf!! Why I like it and I'm not evwen from pr
03:37 LandMine Me vengo en nah - comes to nothing
03:37 LandMine NakedFury lol
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04:26 cornernote hi
04:27 wei2912 any player skin similar to minecraft's
04:27 wei2912 ?
04:27 cornernote anyone know how i can trigger a formspec to popup for a player without them punching a node ?
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04:58 wei2912 cornernote, you too?
04:58 wei2912 no answer :P
05:04 hmmmm no, there is no player skin until we get 3d models
05:12 wei2912 hmmmm, i mean the 2d one
05:14 hmmmm i mean that's simple enough, the texture you're looking for is games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures/player.png and player_back.png
05:15 hmmmm but you're not going to be able to make it look the "minecraft player skin"
05:15 hmmmm because it's 2d
05:23 thexyz cornernote: there is no way to do that
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05:28 wei2912 hmmmm, i mean a 2d player skin that looks like minecraft? lol
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07:21 celeron55 test this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/drawchanges
07:22 celeron55 on some hardware, it might make a huge difference; on some, pretty much nothing
07:22 celeron55 (mine is the latter)
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07:43 RealBadAngel hi
07:44 RealBadAngel cornernote, found a way to raise formspec?
07:44 RealBadAngel im lookin for it too
08:38 celeron55 there is no way to arbitrarily launch a formspec menu
08:39 celeron55 there will be
08:39 RBAafk super
08:39 RBAafk btw, one question bout luaentities
08:40 RBAafk when are is unloaded (with some luaentities) and loaded back they lost all the variables set
08:40 RBAafk any possibility to save them?
08:41 RBAafk by now because of it items travellin in tubes lost its velocity and given skin
08:42 celeron55 yes they do, you are supposed to serialize their state to the thing called "static data" that the engine will ask with get_staticdata() when it wants to save it and supplies it as the parameter to on_activate
08:43 RBAafk :) ty
08:44 RBAafk hmm i quess i will have to do that every step they move, to keep velocity up to date, yes?
08:45 celeron55 you don't choose when the data is saved; the engine chooses
08:45 RBAafk but i do choose what data is to be saved
08:45 celeron55 it will always ask it just before deactivating them
08:45 RBAafk ah, so
08:45 celeron55 and at other times too
08:46 RBAafk is something using this method in the game already?
08:46 celeron55 the lua-implemented thrown items store the itemstring that way
08:47 celeron55 builtin/item_entity.lua
08:47 RBAafk cool, will take a look on it later today, now im goin to work
08:47 celeron55 you likely want to use minetest.serialize() to store a table of copyable values rather than a single string
08:47 RBAafk thanks a lot c55
08:48 RBAafk i need 2 values to be stored just, velocity and item texture
08:48 RBAafk because i use just one entity for all the item possible
08:49 RBAafk and without it, it just turned back to predefined one
08:51 celeron55 saving will probably end up as something like "get_staticdata = function(self) return minetest.serialize({velocity=self.velocity, texture=self.texture}) end,"
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10:35 keegaan hello
10:38 whirm hi
10:55 keegaan hey RealBadAngel
10:55 RealBadAngel hi
10:56 keegaan whatca guys doing?
11:11 wei2912 anyone knows how i can use "clean" mod to destroy all torches?
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11:44 wei2912 argh
11:44 wei2912 no pro here?
11:44 wei2912 lol
11:50 wei2912 must i try something risky?
11:51 wei2912 let torches be unknown blocks... :P
11:53 wei2912 please...
11:54 FreeFull Maybe if you redefined torches to be an alias of air
11:55 wei2912 FreeFull, great idea
11:55 wei2912 for now... i remove torches completely
11:55 wei2912 damn
11:55 wei2912 can't remove it
11:56 wei2912 FreeFull, how would i do that?
11:56 FreeFull I don't know, but it should be possible
11:57 wei2912 FreeFull, trying that out
12:01 wei2912 FreeFull, no commands worked
12:04 FreeFull How are you trying to do this?
12:05 FreeFull Ah, I just looked the mod up
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12:06 wei2912 FreeFull, ?
12:06 FreeFull If you want to use the clean mod to remove the torches, you'll have to edit your default mod and remove the torch definition from it (I recommend making a copy)
12:06 wei2912 okay
12:06 FreeFull Otherwise, you could just make a small mod that redefines torches to be air, and that should work too
12:07 wei2912 FreeFull, thanks a lot
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12:09 wei2912 FreeFull, both methods don't work
12:09 wei2912 FreeFull, btw my situation is similar to one of the screenshots with worldedit: http://i.imgur.com/vQw4M.png
12:10 wei2912 and i can't afford to create a new world
12:10 wei2912 it's a project
12:21 wei2912 FreeFull, any way to restore?
12:23 FreeFull That's a lot of torches
12:23 wei2912 lol
12:23 wei2912 mine isn't as much
12:23 wei2912 but still a horrible situation
12:23 FreeFull Do you use worldedit?
12:23 wei2912 FreeFull, yes
12:24 wei2912 some sort of freaky accident happened
12:24 FreeFull If the torches are in a cuboid, you could mark the two corners and delete them that way
12:24 wei2912 FreeFull, doesn't work
12:24 wei2912 1. other part of the map can't load
12:25 wei2912 2. commands don't work
12:25 wei2912 it is doing some sort of intensive work that i don't know about
12:25 FreeFull Maybe lighting calculations
12:25 wei2912 FreeFull, torches show as unknown blocks
12:25 wei2912 redefine torches?
12:26 FreeFull Well, if they show as unknown blocks, and you still have the clean mod active
12:26 FreeFull The intensive work is probably the clean mod deleting them
12:26 wei2912 FreeFull, no blocks were deleted
12:26 wei2912 i checked the console - nope
12:27 FreeFull Does the clean mod write to the console when it removes unknown nodes?
12:27 wei2912 FreeFull, nope
12:28 wei2912 HOLY CRAP I SUCEEDED
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12:28 NekoGloop Hello peoples
12:28 wei2912 FreeFull, i copied the definition of "dirt" to "torch"
12:28 FreeFull Once all the torches are gone, you might want to get them back =P
12:28 FreeFull Actually
12:29 FreeFull If you copied the definition, then it will turn back into torches
12:29 NekoGloop Why are you removing torches? o.o
12:29 wei2912 FreeFull, lol
12:29 wei2912 NekoGloop, got screwed up badly
12:29 wei2912 some freak worldedit situation
12:29 wei2912 http://i.imgur.com/vQw4M.png
12:29 wei2912 something like that
12:29 FreeFull I think an alias would turn the torches into something else pernamently
12:30 NekoGloop Yes
12:30 NekoGloop It woukd
12:30 NekoGloop would*
12:30 wei2912 FreeFull, didn't work
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12:30 NekoGloop And while you're at it, give me a cookie
12:30 wei2912 NekoGloop, there
12:30 wei2912 an air cookie
12:30 NekoGloop Lol
12:30 NekoGloop You hacker you
12:30 wei2912 yum yum
12:31 FreeFull And then all air was cookies
12:31 wei2912 as mozilla says in "firefox'
12:31 wei2912 "Cookies are delicious delicacies."
12:31 wei2912 google that line and you will understand
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12:31 Matsetes Hi all!
12:31 FreeFull Hi
12:33 Matsetes I've got a question... Is it normal that object (as workers in worker mod or machines in technic mod) works only if you are looking at them?
12:33 wei2912 FreeFull, ah
12:33 wei2912 FreeFull, figured out the problem
12:33 wei2912 smoke still appears
12:33 wei2912 i have to find a way to remove the torch functions
12:33 FreeFull Matsetes: it has to be in a loaded chunk for it to work
12:34 Matsetes What's a loaded chunk?
12:34 FreeFull Chunks load when you are in them/close to them
12:34 FreeFull They're parts of the map
12:35 Matsetes Ok... So there isn't any possibility to make them work all the time?
12:35 FreeFull So if you are, say, 1000 blocks away from a furnace, the furnace won't be smelting
12:35 FreeFull Not that I'm aware of
12:35 wei2912 Matsetes, that would take up a lot of memory
12:35 Matsetes Why?
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12:36 wei2912 Matsetes, one chunk takes up 300MB for me
12:36 wei2912 imagine 200 chunks
12:36 wei2912 (just an estimate)
12:37 Matsetes And would be possible to make only some chunk work all the time?
12:37 Matsetes An option "full work"?
12:37 wei2912 Matsetes, no idea
12:37 wei2912 you can suggest that
12:37 wei2912 if you can decrease the memory usage
12:38 Matsetes I have to suggest it to celeron55 for the main game or to somebody for a mod?
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12:38 wei2912 Matsetes, suggest to celeron55
12:38 wei2912 mods are VERY limited
12:39 Matsetes Ok, for a similar work a mod is too limited...
12:39 Matsetes Thx, wei2912 !
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12:50 wei2912 FreeFull, any way to use c++ code to remove all torch blocks?
12:50 wei2912 FreeFull, a note
12:50 wei2912 the torch blocks are emmiting smoke
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12:51 wei2912 FreeFull, argh
12:51 wei2912 celeron55, do you know where the function for torches to emit smoke is placed at?
12:51 wei2912 oh got it
12:52 wei2912 FreeFull, finally got everything in order
12:52 wei2912 YES
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13:08 redcrab Hi there ...
13:08 wei2912 redcrab, hi
13:09 redcrab Does someone know or can provide to anyone a version 0.4.2 rc1 latest git , compiled for windows ?
13:09 wei2912 redcrab, wait a minute
13:09 wei2912 30 seoncds*
13:09 wei2912 redcrab, there you go: http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/?C=M;O=A
13:09 wei2912 download minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32.zip
13:10 redcrab it is dated in july .... and dont works with latest git
13:10 redcrab dont work with server compiled with latest git
13:11 wei2912 redcrab, hmm
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13:11 wei2912 i recall a way to compile for windows
13:11 wei2912 remember*
13:11 wei2912 somewhere in the readme
13:12 redcrab I ask for someone to compile it becauise I can't ... I do not have any windows of any kind
13:12 wei2912 redcrab, neither do i
13:13 redcrab ok wei2912 , thank you anyway.
13:25 wei2912 redcrab, you're welcome "_
13:25 wei2912 :)*
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13:42 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:44 FreeFull Hi
13:55 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
13:56 PilzAdam sup
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14:06 LandMine Hi pilzadam I love you
14:07 PilzAdam ... thx
14:08 LandMine Wanna marry me?
14:08 PilzAdam no, thanks
14:08 LandMine Why?
14:09 LandMine Cause I'm black?
14:09 PilzAdam i prefer RL
14:10 RealBadAngel Real Landmines? ;)
14:10 LandMine Lol
14:11 LandMine Real life
14:11 PilzAdam come to my home and ask me again
14:11 LandMine I'm on my way
14:11 LandMine Ohh hi bealbadangel u still mad?
14:12 RealBadAngel for your nazi games?
14:13 * PilzAdam hates Nazis
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14:15 LandMine Why u mad brah?
14:16 Calinou every time you say "brah", god says your name
14:16 Calinou use "bro"
14:16 LandMine Brah
14:16 LandMine Brah
14:16 LandMine Brah
14:17 LandMine Brah
14:17 LandMine U mad?
14:17 Calinou nope; /ignore
14:17 LandMine Lol
14:17 LandMine Good
14:17 redcrab ?? nimportenawak ??
14:18 PilzAdam should i add functions that convert plants from sapiers farming mod into mine?
14:19 LandMine Redcrab ma I build in your server?
14:19 LandMine I'm a good boy now redcrab
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15:00 VanessaE good morning all
15:00 PilzAdam morning?
15:01 RealBadAngel heheh
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15:01 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE, here its 5pm :)
15:02 PilzAdam here too
15:02 VanessaE RealBadAngel:  time for a martini then ;)
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15:03 NekoGloop good morning
15:03 RealBadAngel i thougt bout a few beers but decided not to
15:03 RealBadAngel coding
15:04 NekoGloop whatcha up to, realbad?
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15:04 UbuntuNerd hello
15:05 PilzAdam hi
15:05 PilzAdam ._(
15:05 PilzAdam :-(
15:06 NekoGloop lol pilzadam
15:06 NekoGloop oh and it's "rye" not "rhy"
15:06 NekoGloop maybe that's why your dictionary isnt working :D
15:06 PilzAdam thx
15:06 VanessaE heh
15:07 NekoGloop all i know is how to spell it
15:07 NekoGloop i cant tell you what it is
15:08 NekoGloop I'm getting a mic on my birthday :D
15:08 PilzAdam when is your birthday?
15:08 NekoGloop this month
15:09 PilzAdam i can make you a cake
15:09 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, coding the items to be still there when loading/unloading blocks
15:09 NekoGloop pilzadam: wont be neccessary
15:09 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: oh, i see
15:09 RealBadAngel i mean items movin in tubes
15:09 PilzAdam when you tell me when exactly it is
15:10 NekoGloop i wont tell you
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15:14 NekoGloop Mmmmm... pizza... :3
15:19 frogcrush Yum, pass some over here :)
15:20 NekoGloop ate it all already
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15:45 NekoGloop how do i check if an item is not in the creative inventory?
15:45 PilzAdam its not in creative inv if the description is nil or the group not_in_creative_inevntory is ~= nil
15:46 NekoGloop how do i check if the group not_in_creative_inventory is nil?
15:46 NekoGloop (i have the node as variable node)
15:47 PilzAdam minetest.registered_nodes[nodename].groups.not_in_creatibe_inventory ~= nil
15:47 NekoGloop oooooh
15:50 VanessaE there.
15:51 NekoGloop finally, maze mod now has items from all mods, while not giving you hacker you items
15:52 VanessaE cool
15:52 NekoGloop now lets see if i cant make these things appear on mapgen
15:52 VanessaE heh
15:52 NekoGloop i probably can
15:54 NekoGloop but i'm too lazy to do so right now
15:54 NekoGloop and i'm cheating; mazes made out of air are really easy :3
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15:58 celeron55 so did anyone try https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/drawchanges ?
15:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, there should be a new section in the forum: "Mod Releases of Awesome Mods"
15:58 VanessaE heh
15:58 PilzAdam there should be not normal mods, like carts or TNT
15:59 VanessaE celeron55: what's it do?  I don't understand the commit message entirely
15:59 PilzAdam so users can decide wether they want useless mods (like homedecor) or realy good mods that change the gameplay
15:59 celeron55 VanessaE: it does black magic; now try it
15:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, so all of my mods would be in that forum since they're all 100% Awesomesauceâ„¢
15:59 VanessaE ;)
16:00 PilzAdam by awsome i mean innovative
16:00 PilzAdam like carts, animals, TNT
16:01 cornernote PilzAdam, you do a lit of moving/interacting things which is cool
16:01 cornernote u should make a nyancat that moves
16:01 PilzAdam there are 3 types of mods: useless, only block adding (e.g. for decoration) and mods that change gameplay or add new stuff
16:01 VanessaE celeron55: ok, I'll bite
16:01 * VanessaE downloads, builds
16:02 cornernote decoration is good
16:02 PilzAdam cornernote, there is something like this (cant remember exactly)
16:02 cornernote nyanland or something
16:02 cornernote but it didnt work well/at all
16:02 NekoGloop worldedit laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
16:02 NekoGloop and spam debug
16:03 cornernote would be cool to see clying nyancats in skyblock
16:03 cornernote they just sit there
16:03 PilzAdam hmm... mybe just add animation to the blocks?
16:03 celeron55 "How do i recover a world that i have deleted?"
16:03 celeron55 ^ feel free to feel sorry for this guy; i don't 8-D
16:04 celeron55 (fun e-mails part #134124"
16:04 celeron55 )*
16:04 cornernote just undelete
16:04 frogcrush lol
16:04 cornernote or restore from backup
16:04 cornernote easy
16:04 cornernote try CTRL+Z
16:04 PilzAdam in MT?
16:04 PilzAdam this doesnt work i guess
16:04 cornernote sure, why not... worth a try
16:04 VanessaE celeron55: ok, it's up - what should I be looking for?
16:04 celeron55 VanessaE: FPS
16:05 VanessaE oh ok
16:05 celeron55 if you see any FPSes, tell me
16:05 celeron55 8-)
16:05 VanessaE haha
16:06 * VanessaE looks...  nothing there.. nope...nothing over here either...  hm, empty the---wait, ....  hm, got a bunch over here
16:06 celeron55 i am guessing that patch makes the most difference for those people who have old hardware on which minetest has slowed down since 0.3.1
16:06 VanessaE looks like somewhere between 55 and 60 ;)
16:07 VanessaE celeron55: there's a definite improvement here
16:07 frogcrush Question, how do you built it on Windows? :D
16:07 VanessaE 10-15fps faster than before easily.
16:08 VanessaE let's see what happens when I apply the AF+MM tweaks..
16:08 PilzAdam cornernote, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=658
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16:10 VanessaE wow, I just realized I still had googleearth open too
16:10 VanessaE ok, AF+MM+Trilinear build coming up...
16:11 Calinou frogcrush, readme.txt
16:11 Calinou it's a PITA though
16:11 VanessaE celeron55: looks good.  High 50's.
16:11 PilzAdam hmmm make -j16 makes all my 8 CPUs work with 100%
16:12 Calinou you have hyperthreading enabled, PilzAdam
16:12 NekoGloop well i guess that my world is ruined from them mazes
16:12 VanessaE celeron55: well, mid to high 50's.  Definitely an improvement.
16:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: time to build a new one? :-)
16:13 NekoGloop yup
16:13 NekoGloop time to see if i can make a node that spawns a maze and create the node on mapgen
16:15 frogcrush Man, lots of stuff to install to build the game
16:15 NekoGloop you need practice downloading
16:15 NekoGloop the same reason more mods arent in the default game ;)
16:15 RealBadAngel celeron55, its strange. it looks like luaentities are loaded back sometimes. often theyre not loaded back. and then even so, all the data i serialized and wanted to save its not here
16:16 PilzAdam celeron55, with or without the new update i gor ~300 fps
16:17 PilzAdam *got
16:17 VanessaE oops, crashed while flying with 'full range' turned on (segfault)
16:17 VanessaE celeron55: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/debug-2012-09-04-0001.txt
16:17 VanessaE (contains two runs' worth of debug output)
16:18 celeron55 it eats my browser
16:18 celeron55 well that isn't helping at all; a gdb backtrace of a debug build would
16:19 NekoGloop celeron55: any way to call a command manually in lua?
16:19 celeron55 (i recommend to always set "ulimit -c unlimited" and "gdb bin/minetest core.whatever" on segfault
16:19 celeron55 )
16:19 iqualfragile celeron55: is the newest git-version incompatible with the one posted by you in your block
16:19 celeron55 block.
16:19 celeron55 maye i'll rename it to block
16:19 celeron55 +b
16:20 celeron55 iqualfragile: i don't think so
16:20 VanessaE celeron55: ok, I'll pull it up in gdb
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16:23 VanessaE haha
16:23 VanessaE X crashed. :-)
16:23 VanessaE let's try this again, only capturing the gdb output to an actual file.
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16:26 celeron55 apparently i can get it to crash too
16:27 celeron55 ...but wasn't running it in a debugger and neither did i had core dumps enabled....
16:28 celeron55 oh nice, got it
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16:30 NekoGloop you crash again lol
16:30 VanessaE_ gdb crashes the console quite reliably.
16:31 VanessaE_ Linux!  A Stable OS!   (sure, if you don't run X.)
16:31 NekoGloop Windows! A Stable OS! (no matter what you run)
16:31 celeron55 or hardware with bad drivers
16:31 VanessaE_ celeron55: probably.
16:32 PilzAdam VanessaE_, you can delete the _
16:32 VanessaE_ inb4 Calinou nVidia 1000, ATI 0
16:32 celeron55 i have a wifi card (a powerful one with an external antenna slot), which sometimes causes the kernel to crash very hard
16:33 celeron55 i can't really recommend realtek to anyone 8)
16:33 Calinou realtek sucks :P
16:33 NekoGloop i have a cookie
16:33 VanessaE celeron55: well, since you can crash it too, I guess you don't need a gdb trace from me :D
16:33 NekoGloop and it runs minetest
16:34 celeron55 VanessaE: do you have one?
16:34 VanessaE celeron55: nope, it crashes the console before I can get it to generate a backtrace
16:35 VanessaE stupid video drivers like you said.
16:35 iqualfragile then create a screen
16:35 iqualfragile and reatatch it
16:37 * VanessaE fiddles with sshd settings
16:37 celeron55 VanessaE: use "ulimit -c unlimited" to enable core dumps and run minetest after it
16:37 celeron55 you can just investigate the dump with gdb afterwards
16:37 VanessaE ah, smart
16:37 VanessaE I tend to forget about ulimit.
16:41 VanessaE there, it just crashed....
16:41 * VanessaE waits for it to dump core.
16:41 RealBadAngel celeron55, i found a reason i think for this strange behaviour. after luaentity is loaded back, and BEFORE on_activate is called sometimes on_step is executed with no data
16:42 VanessaE maybe THAT is why the console seemed to crash, I forgot that this thing will generate 4+ GB cores.
16:42 VanessaE ok, that's done
16:42 celeron55 VanessaE: lol
16:43 RealBadAngel i just put extra condition on on_step execution to wait for on_activate was done
16:43 VanessaE ok, got the core loaded
16:43 RealBadAngel and it works fine now
16:43 VanessaE fuck.  the backtrace is useless
16:43 VanessaE nothing but a bunch of addresses.
16:43 RealBadAngel but im pretty sure such behaviour wasnt intended
16:45 celeron55 VanessaE: pushed a commit to fix the one i encountered
16:45 VanessaE note to self - open the computer and fix the HDD LED connection.
16:45 celeron55 actually, don't pull yet
16:45 VanessaE ok
16:45 celeron55 now
16:46 iqualfragile serialize error occured: unknown inventory identfier. the server is propably running a different version of
16:46 iqualfragile what shal i do with the drunken sailor?
16:46 VanessaE put him in the brig until he's sober of course
16:47 RealBadAngel sober sailor? kinda SF
16:48 VanessaE celeron55: building...
16:49 VanessaE ok, let's see what THIS breaks :D
16:51 iqualfragile this error: what can i do about it?
16:51 iqualfragile a friend of mine gets it whenever he tries to connect to my server
16:52 iqualfragile he has the windows-version from the blog
16:52 iqualfragile and i have the latest git running as server
16:54 VanessaE celeron55: well, some mapgen slowness aside, it seems okay
16:54 VanessaE doesn't want to crash now
16:57 celeron55 iqualfragile: that sounds very odd; i can't think of any way that could happen if it doesn't happen to you
16:57 celeron55 other than trying to connect with a different player, dunno what might help
16:58 iqualfragile nope, he connected with the same player
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16:58 iqualfragile but im gona check the player-file
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17:16 VanessaE celeron55: is there something in this build that makes trees slowly die off?
17:16 VanessaE (or did I manage to pull in a mod that's doing that?)
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17:18 VanessaE wait, this might be the conifers mod doing that.  nm.
17:20 VanessaE ah, yep, that's it.
17:21 * VanessaE changes the related setting.
17:21 * LandMine is gay
17:21 LandMine Ohh it worked cool
17:21 frogcrush lol
17:22 LandMine Yup checkin out all the commands and shit
17:22 LandMine So far I have very little
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17:40 Mikeonline hi
17:40 PilzAdam hi
17:54 VanessaE afternoon Mikeonline
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18:11 Tengri hey guys
18:11 PilzAdam hi
18:14 cornernote does anyone know how i can popup a formspec to the user without them clicking a node ?
18:14 RealBadAngel c55 said its impossible now
18:15 RealBadAngel but it will be in the future
18:15 cornernote ok, i'll just use chat output for now
18:15 cornernote thanks RBA
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18:22 mika__ can someone say the 3rd ingredient other than torch and glass to make gray bobblock
18:22 mika__ ?
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19:09 RealBadAngel damn, i made at least saving moving items
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19:09 celeron55 so how many people tested the drawchanges branch?
19:11 VanessaE well I did anyway :-)
19:11 RealBadAngel o lol
19:11 RealBadAngel fraps caught funny stuff
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19:11 RealBadAngel invisible when normal launch
19:11 RealBadAngel you will c in a few minutes
19:12 celeron55 i have a guess, but won't say it 8)
19:13 RealBadAngel celeron55, managed to made it with unloading/loading entities, was pain in the ass :)
19:13 VanessaE bbiab, gotta run a couple errands.
19:15 thexyz celeron55: why is "-" not allowed in mod names?
19:16 celeron55 probably because almost no other character is either
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19:17 celeron55 thexyz: is that a problem?
19:17 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySI38AOIfAA&feature=youtu.be
19:18 thexyz not such a big problem, but i think fixing it shouldn't take long
19:18 RealBadAngel here u go, now finally we know what the game is doin while loading lol
19:18 RealBadAngel wonder why fraps caught that
19:19 celeron55 thexyz: i don't think it's a bug
19:19 celeron55 modnames are allowed exactly the characters [a-zA-Z_]
19:19 celeron55 ehm
19:19 celeron55 [a-z0-9_]
19:19 LandMine Realbadangel fake and gay
19:20 celeron55 RealBadAngel: fraps apparently figured that because nothing updates on the screen, it might just as well record the render target texture it's drawing stuff on 8)
19:21 celeron55 and yes, that is exactly what i guessed
19:21 iqualfragile realbadangel: i can sometimes see that, too but without using fraps
19:21 celeron55 you actually see that on direct3d on some hardware
19:21 RealBadAngel i saw that for the 1st time :)
19:21 iqualfragile to be more precise: i can see it when playing a game on my server, exiting to menue and then rejoining the game on my server
19:22 celeron55 it actually goes quite fast
19:22 celeron55 fraps just limited the FPS i think
19:22 iqualfragile and exactly these circumstances lead to a bug where the items in my inventory look wired or are compleetly invisible
19:22 celeron55 FPS being a single image drawn
19:23 RealBadAngel with fraps recording i do have fps drop by half
19:23 iqualfragile every single time
19:23 RealBadAngel and yes, i think he caps fps to 25 or somethin
19:23 iqualfragile and im not on windows, im on linux so i am not using direct3d
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19:24 RealBadAngel anyway, i solved another problem with tubes :)
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19:26 RealBadAngel celeron55, thanks for help
19:26 iqualfragile how is the kde-standard terminal called?
19:27 thexyz konsole
19:27 thexyz is that so hard to google?
19:28 iqualfragile but whyyy?
19:28 iqualfragile i should have thought of it
19:28 iqualfragile i mean K onsole
19:28 iqualfragile it was obvious
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19:44 celeron55 oh well, i'll just push the branch on github and wait for people to complain
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19:52 celeron55 oh lol
19:53 celeron55 i just realized the inventorylist width property breaks version compatibility
19:53 celeron55 that is what somebody here was facing
19:53 celeron55 and i now see that mentioned on the forums too
19:54 FreeFull Lol
19:56 celeron55 who was this braindead amoeba who made InventoryList deserialization fail on unknown fields?!
19:57 thexyz it only breaks backward version compatibility
19:58 celeron55 yes, but it wouldn't need to, if i had brains when i made inventory deserialization... umm... on 2010-11-27
19:58 celeron55 that code has been there since the beginning of everything 8)
19:58 thexyz ^4e249fb (Perttu Ahola     2010-11-27 01:02:21 +0200 547)                       throw SerializationError("Unknown inventory identifier");
20:00 celeron55 lol wat, it's in the first commit ever :D
20:01 celeron55 not bad.jpg
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20:01 UbuntuNerd Hello
20:01 UbuntuNerd Celeron?
20:02 celeron55 .
20:03 UbuntuNerd do you have the src files for your old minetest versions like the first versions of minetest with 3 blocks
20:03 UbuntuNerd i want to compile them for Linux
20:04 celeron55 how far back does git go?
20:04 celeron55 not far enough?
20:04 UbuntuNerd 0.4-DEV
20:04 celeron55 wat?
20:04 UbuntuNerd nvm 0.2-DEV
20:05 celeron55 apparently git has always had leaves and mese and stuff...
20:06 celeron55 (or, well, VCS; it was converted from mercurial)
20:06 UbuntuNerd o well i was lookin here   http://c55.me/random/2010-10/old/
20:06 celeron55 i have fairly old versions here, wait a moment
20:06 celeron55 UbuntuNerd: which of those do you want?
20:07 UbuntuNerd the oldest one you have
20:07 UbuntuNerd im going to learn c++ with it
20:09 UbuntuNerd find it???
20:10 * UbuntuNerd wishes that could uncompile Minetest :(
20:11 celeron55 what the flying fuck, i have a version that has only 6 source files 8D
20:11 celeron55 2779 lines
20:12 UbuntuNerd can i have it PLEASE
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20:12 UbuntuNerd do you have windows?
20:13 celeron55 this doesn't store map on disk, not to even imagine about networking, and you can only place one kind of block
20:13 celeron55 it has two kinds of blocks and lighting though
20:13 celeron55 :D
20:14 celeron55 and infinite map generation!
20:14 UbuntuNerd press f to change blocks
20:14 UbuntuNerd i played it on windows
20:14 UbuntuNerd can i download it somehow?
20:15 celeron55 this doesn't have that yet
20:15 UbuntuNerd can i download it?
20:15 celeron55 how little patience do you have?
20:15 UbuntuNerd o sorry :(
20:16 UbuntuNerd im normally patient
20:16 UbuntuNerd do you think you could add them to your github?
20:16 frogcrush He is really impatient :D
20:17 UbuntuNerd lolz
20:18 frogcrush Gawd, if only there was a good alternative to Windows...
20:19 UbuntuNerd there is
20:19 UbuntuNerd ReactOS
20:19 frogcrush Its not very stable
20:19 frogcrush Ive been watching it for years
20:19 UbuntuNerd ik there working on it
20:19 UbuntuNerd ive been donating
20:20 UbuntuNerd where did celeron go?
20:21 frogcrush Maybe he got tired of your pestering :)
20:21 UbuntuNerd :(
20:21 UbuntuNerd i just wanted old source files
20:21 UbuntuNerd D:
20:22 frogcrush And he doesn't have to take time out of his day to help you ;)
20:23 celeron55 i need to package this
20:23 UbuntuNerd ok so you are doing it for me?
20:23 UbuntuNerd if you are thnx SO MUCH
20:24 UbuntuNerd PS : how long did it take you to code the first minetest?
20:24 mika__ anyone know the recipe for bobblock fence?
20:24 RealBadAngel nicer video on tubes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FuoxCaAvs&feature=youtu.be
20:25 NakedFury nice
20:25 NakedFury that is soo cool
20:25 frogcrush What IS THAT????
20:25 NakedFury will it lag the game if you have hundreds of them?
20:25 RealBadAngel i put kinda like 200 apples in it, no visible lag
20:26 UbuntuNerd thats sick!
20:26 NakedFury have you tried multiple machines? not just one
20:27 RealBadAngel not yet
20:27 RealBadAngel will try later for sure :)
20:27 NakedFury I mean having multiple contraptions like in the video running at once
20:28 RealBadAngel i still missing a few pieces of code for it to be functional
20:28 celeron55 http://c55.me/random/2012-09/minetest-2010-10-10-midday.tar.gz
20:28 RealBadAngel but the main work on tubes is done by now
20:29 RealBadAngel items can travel, find desired destinations
20:29 RealBadAngel most important part left is directories handling
20:29 UbuntuNerd hey celeron can you answer any questions i have on adding blocks or whatever ill send you a email if i do have a question
20:29 UbuntuNerd cyah all
20:30 celeron55 no i won't answer
20:30 RealBadAngel hehehe
20:30 frogcrush lol
20:31 frogcrush You deal with this often celeron55?
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20:33 UbuntuNerd I cant compile it
20:33 frogcrush :O
20:33 UbuntuNerd no cmakelist.txt
20:34 * VanessaE is back.
20:34 frogcrush Welcome back :)
20:36 iqualfragile wtf? cmakelist?
20:36 iqualfragile inst it just ./configure
20:36 iqualfragile make -j 8
20:36 iqualfragile rm -rf /
20:36 iqualfragile ?
20:36 VanessaE thanks
20:38 celeron55 here is the last version that didn't yet have any networking http://c55.me/random/2012-09/minetest-2010-10-17-pre-network.tar.gz
20:38 UbuntuNerd does it have the CMakeLists.txt
20:38 celeron55 no
20:39 celeron55 they have raw makefiles, and they won't compile directly without changes
20:39 celeron55 and i won't help in that
20:39 UbuntuNerd so i make it
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20:41 VanessaE celeron55: I'm curious - those icons flicking by in the lower left corner for some people - what's the source of that effect?  I never see it here
20:41 VanessaE while the games loads I mean
20:42 celeron55 i think it happens when irrlicht chooses to use the display surface as an RTT for some reason
20:42 iqualfragile ubuntunerd: just do what i have written earlier
20:43 VanessaE ah
20:43 celeron55 minetest just asks irrlicht "give me a texture where i can render stuff in the background"
20:43 VanessaE I wonder if you can force that to be the case always?  Might be useful as part of a more active loading screen
20:44 celeron55 WTF is my apache doing
20:44 VanessaE going batshit insane? ;)
20:45 celeron55 something along those lines
20:45 celeron55 it eats half of my server's CPU time for no apparent reason
20:46 celeron55 oh nice, looks like somebody bruteforcing the wordpress login form
20:46 * celeron55 shuts down apache
20:46 frogcrush Ouch
20:46 VanessaE I was thinking there might be an ongoing attack
20:46 celeron55 a german IP
20:46 celeron55 5.9.42.244
20:47 * celeron55 nmap fun
20:47 * frogcrush agrees
20:47 celeron55 ooh, a lot of things
20:47 VanessaE HAH
20:47 VanessaE that IP is itself running a webserver
20:47 frogcrush Strip poker?
20:47 VanessaE (accidentally opened the IP as a link instead of C&P)
20:47 celeron55 it runs email server and wide-open mysql too
20:47 VanessaE hoho
20:48 celeron55 and other things
20:48 VanessaE looks to be a shared host
20:49 VanessaE (as if that's a surprise)
20:50 celeron55 reverse dns says it's... ehm... what? ns1.ntaxa.com
20:50 VanessaE yup that's what I got too.
20:51 celeron55 the naming looks like it'd be a nameserver
20:51 celeron55 but it kind of isn't
20:51 celeron55 except that it servers names and passwords to wordpress
20:52 frogcrush I wonder why someone is trying to get into your wordpress :|
20:52 VanessaE celeron55: time to fuck with 'em a bit.  you know, direct the IP to a fake account with the usual selection of shock images, etc.
20:53 VanessaE (but such that they have to search a bit to find 'em ;-)
20:53 frogcrush Anyone else wish they could DDoS ppl?
20:54 celeron55 VanessaE: it's a bot, not worth it
20:54 VanessaE celeron55: true of course....  but someone's gotta be around to use the data the bot gathered :-)
20:56 Kray it is probably just for spamming
20:57 VanessaE eh, I guess.  go ahead and spoil my fun :D
20:58 iqualfragile ping -f 5.9.42.244
20:58 frogcrush Your doing that too?
20:59 iqualfragile germanica.ntaxa.com
20:59 frogcrush ping -f 5.9.42.244 -l 1024
21:00 iqualfragile muharrharr
21:00 iqualfragile who else wants to join?
21:01 VanessaE I think I'll sit this one out, don't wanna risk my ISP shutting me off :-)
21:01 frogcrush lol
21:01 celeron55 what the fuck
21:01 celeron55 TIL wordpress will tell you whether you have given a wrong password or a wrong username
21:02 VanessaE not good
21:02 iqualfragile vanessae: such things dont happen here in germany
21:02 frogcrush WTF?
21:02 frogcrush I dont know if that happens in Canada
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21:03 VanessaE yeah, see I live in the United States of Fuck You Sideways :-)
21:03 iqualfragile small paste:
21:03 iqualfragile E = md5@ntaxa.com
21:03 iqualfragile CN = Marianna Dushar
21:03 iqualfragile OU = N/A
21:03 iqualfragile O = Ntaxa
21:03 iqualfragile L = Lviv
21:03 iqualfragile ST = Galychyna
21:03 iqualfragile C = UA
21:03 iqualfragile (ssl-cert
21:04 iqualfragile )
21:04 frogcrush GO USA! The ultimate country for healthcare!
21:04 iqualfragile hrr hrr hrr: https://5.9.42.244:8080/
21:05 frogcrush hmm...
21:06 iqualfragile i think it was called armitage
21:07 iqualfragile but its illegal here in germany to use or even get such things
21:07 keegaan hello
21:08 VanessaE hi keegan.
21:08 iqualfragile hi
21:08 keegaan back from school
21:08 frogcrush hey
21:08 iqualfragile right, armitage was it: http://www.fastandeasyhacking.com/
21:09 iqualfragile back from school? its like 23:00 around here
21:09 frogcrush its 14:09 here, you lucky man
21:09 keegaan its 5:05 here
21:10 keegaan have LandMine been here?
21:10 iqualfragile yeah
21:10 frogcrush has*
21:10 frogcrush XD
21:10 iqualfragile until 21:28:35
21:10 keegaan did he fnish his world
21:11 iqualfragile so 2:30 ago
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21:14 frogcrush Anyone else have a hard drive that is hotter than their CPU?
21:14 iqualfragile jup
21:14 iqualfragile not in this pc, but i own one
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21:14 keegaan my laptop is 78 degree celsuis
21:15 frogcrush OUCH
21:15 VanessaE eek, is that normal for a laptop?
21:15 VanessaE (for a desktop, of course not)
21:15 keegaan idk
21:15 frogcrush Is there a FAN in that thing?
21:15 keegaan its my dads laptop
21:15 keegaan yea
21:16 keegaan now its 80
21:16 keegaan i think the fan is broke
21:17 VanessaE then shut it down
21:17 frogcrush is broke or is broken? And can I cook some soup on that?
21:17 frogcrush ;)
21:17 VanessaE fix the fan or don't run it or you could cook the CPU
21:17 frogcrush Among other things
21:17 keegaan there is a fan under it too
21:18 celeron55 changed admin name to something else, installed this http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/limit-login-attempts/ and removed notices of invalid user or invalid password
21:19 celeron55 guess i can sleep now 8-)
21:20 keegaan is there a way to delete the trial?
21:20 keegaan delete a trial*
21:21 celeron55 chips don't burn until waaay above 100°C
21:21 keegaan ok
21:21 celeron55 altough they could misbehave and crash
21:21 VanessaE celeron55: "cook" is a euphemism
21:21 keegaan yep
21:22 keegaan how do you even fix the fan?
21:22 keegaan or do you just replace it
21:22 celeron55 you replace it
21:22 keegaan let me see if i have more fans
21:22 celeron55 of course you might be able to fix it if it's just jammed due to hair and other gunk
21:23 celeron55 laptops don't fit any other fans than those designed for the model
21:23 celeron55 you can usually buy them on the internets for not too much price
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21:26 NekoGloop good afternoon people of #minetest!
21:26 keegaan hey
21:27 frogcrush http://ponemote.tylorstech.com/view.aspx?mode=memes&imgurl=http://ponemote.tylorstech.com/m/204.png
21:27 frogcrush @neko
21:27 FreeFull keegaan: My current laptop tends to stay around 50°C, and my old one stayed around 60°C or so
21:28 celeron55 mine idles with it's cores at around 67°C
21:28 FreeFull If I had the fans running at full power all the time it'd probably be at 40°C or so
21:28 NekoGloop frogcrush: my IQ just dropped 20 points, thank you very much.
21:28 keegaan mine has two cores and stays around 75°C
21:29 frogcrush No problem :)
21:29 keegaan i just found out this laptop had two cores :)
21:32 RealBadAngel had? one is burned already?
21:32 keegaan idk
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21:33 NekoGloop LOL
21:34 keegaan it might burn out sooner or later
21:34 keegaan its my dads laptop till i get my own
21:36 frogcrush I wish I could have a Surface
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21:36 keegaan ?
21:36 celeron55 does anyone know of anyone running minetest on a non-x86 based computer?
21:37 VanessaE celeron55: I believe Keegan there uses an Intel atom-based machine
21:37 NekoGloop sorry but no
21:37 celeron55 atom is x86
21:37 VanessaE oh.
21:37 celeron55 do they make powerful enough ARM-based laptops these days?
21:37 VanessaE in that case, no
21:37 frogcrush lol, Raspberry Pi
21:37 keegaan the atom is where i keep my files on
21:37 keegaan like for servers
21:37 celeron55 i don't understand why they don't make laptops with the smartphone dualcore CPUs
21:38 keegaan since its useless to me
21:38 VanessaE wait....wasn't there someone I read who was using a tablet or smartphone running some flavor of linux with minetest as a server?
21:38 NekoGloop you read someone?
21:38 frogcrush Smartphone minetest server? that would be cool to see
21:38 VanessaE read of.
21:38 RealBadAngel ok, video on tubes stress test
21:38 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGoFmhp9sGQ&feature=plcp
21:38 RealBadAngel have fun
21:39 frogcrush Should port the server to Windows Phone 8 :D
21:40 celeron55 minetest server should be quite portable
21:40 frogcrush RealBadAngel: Is that a public server?
21:40 celeron55 the client not that much
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21:40 frogcrush The client isnt toooo resource-hungry
21:40 RealBadAngel nope
21:41 NekoGloop the client is resource-starving
21:42 RealBadAngel i will try to run the server with it, we will see
21:42 VanessaE RBA: Christ in a cartoon!
21:42 VanessaE are you TRYING to crash the server? :-)
21:43 VanessaE (technically I guess you are :D )
21:43 RealBadAngel hehehe
21:44 celeron55 i am surprised how well that works :P
21:44 RealBadAngel when i stopped recording i pushed there like 100 apples more even
21:44 RealBadAngel no FPS drop at all
21:44 RealBadAngel still have 60fps
21:44 keegaan is t on a itouch or tablet?
21:45 RealBadAngel iSmack
21:45 keegaan cool
21:45 keegaan that will cool you about 15 billion dollars
21:45 keegaan cost*
21:48 keegaan how do you get windows or linux on Ipod Touch?
21:48 RealBadAngel im a haxxor
21:49 frogcrush You totally couldnt get Windows or linux on an iTouch
21:49 keegaan y
21:49 frogcrush Processor, hardware lockdown, drivers
21:50 frogcrush Hell, how would you get the installation media?
21:50 * frogcrush is glad there is no kickbot like the one he made :D
21:51 NekoGloop easy
21:51 NekoGloop get windows.app
21:51 NekoGloop :D
21:52 frogcrush Holy crap, I found my spambot!
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21:52 frogcrush ;)
21:53 keegaan cool
21:53 frogcrush hay 2cool
21:53 _2cool4me4_ apparently my nick isn't registered anymore
21:53 frogcrush :O
21:53 keegaan :)
21:53 _2cool4me4_ is this bad?
21:54 NekoGloop haxxed
21:54 VanessaE re-register it?
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21:54 _2cool4me4_ just did
21:54 NekoGloop oh man, jeija was here?
21:55 frogcrush celeron55: You ever think of having a bot in here?
21:55 _2cool4me4_ there's a loggingbot
21:55 * frogcrush hides
21:55 keegaan :)
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21:57 keegaan ne know some funny qoutes?
21:57 keegaan any
21:57 NekoGloop "he who laughs last, thinks slowest" - IceChat
21:57 celeron55 he who laughs last, thinks
21:58 NekoGloop that too
22:00 NekoGloop I'm making a ExCommands mod
22:00 frogcrush lol
22:01 NekoGloop adds some various commands
22:02 NekoGloop /kill and /killme
22:02 NekoGloop currently the only two
22:02 frogcrush sweet
22:03 NekoGloop /kill needs a priv while /killme doesnt
22:04 NekoGloop huh...
22:04 NekoGloop its not working
22:05 keegaan and
22:05 keegaan s /kill NekoGloop
22:05 NekoGloop You do not have the 'kill' priv
22:05 keegaan no
22:06 NekoGloop so you cant kill me ;)
22:06 frogcrush s /kill apple_lovers
22:06 keegaan im not a apple lover im a girl lover
22:07 NekoGloop /kill celeron55 :D
22:08 frogcrush Oh, you meenie. You deserve a kick
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22:09 NekoGloop kicked yourself, did you?
22:11 frogcrush no something with InstantBird
22:14 iqualfragile https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/collusion/ ← interesting idea
22:15 frogcrush I saw that
22:17 frogcrush lol I get to do a fake newscast
22:18 celeron55 here is something for somebody to test http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-rc0-a0da6bc-win32.zip1
22:18 frogcrush thx :)
22:18 celeron55 that is not a release or anything really, i'll put out 0.4.3 tomorrow
22:19 frogcrush You added a one at the end of the url btw
22:19 celeron55 but somebody should still test that and tell if there are problems
22:19 celeron55 oh; http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-rc0-a0da6bc-win32.zip
22:19 frogcrush :)
22:20 frogcrush Advanced, when no world is selected, the message is chopped off.
22:20 frogcrush "No world selected and no address provided. Nothing to" is what I get :)
22:20 NekoGloop happened b4 as well
22:20 NekoGloop testing 0.4.3 now :D
22:21 frogcrush where is minetest.conf for it?
22:21 frogcrush nvm
22:21 NekoGloop only appears after starting up the first time
22:22 NekoGloop anything in particular i need to look for/at?
22:22 NekoGloop holy shit
22:22 NekoGloop it loads insanely fast
22:23 NekoGloop ofc i'm running vanilla
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22:23 NekoGloop idk what mods would work, although i assume all would
22:23 * khonkhortisan jumps into the middle of the conversation
22:23 celeron55 if you see any change in FPS vs. 0.4.2-rc1, please tell
22:23 NekoGloop FPS is lower but I havent set the cap yet
22:23 NekoGloop it's about as fast as 0.4.2 was w/o a cap
22:24 NekoGloop camera movement is smoother :D
22:24 NekoGloop nvm about the same as 0.4.2 part
22:24 NekoGloop its at 40, a number i NEVER saw in 0.4.2\
22:24 frogcrush My fps seem to have gone down a bit, with a cap removed
22:25 frogcrush 400-450 when looking at wall, 200-350 when moving
22:25 NekoGloop the lag when starting a new world is non-evident/small
22:25 frogcrush rendering seems a little faster
22:25 NekoGloop oh i just reached 60fps, is that the default cap?
22:26 frogcrush yeah
22:26 NekoGloop oh my... well you could call this the lag reducer update
22:26 Mikeonline n8
22:27 NekoGloop is aux1_descends still a valid config setting?
22:27 NekoGloop nvm, its in change keys even
22:27 NekoGloop celeron55: unless there are problems with multiplayer/mods, this is AWESOME
22:28 NekoGloop speaking of mods, did the api change at all?
22:28 celeron55 not really at all, this is mostly a bugfix update
22:29 NekoGloop sweet
22:29 NekoGloop as i said, unless multiplayer or mods have issues, it's perfect.
22:29 NekoGloop can it connect to 0.4.2 servers or no?
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22:30 NekoGloop this game is well on its way to being finished. props to celeron!
22:30 frogcrush Yay c55!!
22:30 frogcrush *girls cheer*
22:30 NekoGloop lol
22:31 frogcrush Who thinks Nokia Lumias are cute?
22:33 celeron55 dunno about cuteness, but i hugely appreciate that they still have guts to make colorful phones when verybody else makes grey iphone-look-a-likes
22:34 UbuntuNerd can someone make me a cmakelists.txt for this src file : http://c55.me/random/2012-09/minetest-2010-10-10-midday.tar.gz
22:34 NekoGloop ok, mapgen mods lag just as much
22:34 NekoGloop :D
22:34 NekoGloop i wonder if mesecons are less laggy
22:34 NekoGloop doubtful but possible
22:34 celeron55 there isn't any changes in those parts
22:35 celeron55 only the 3D rendering has changes
22:35 NekoGloop ok
22:36 NekoGloop ergh
22:36 NekoGloop could you make this bloody thing compatible with direct3d?
22:37 celeron55 i build stable packages with MSVC... which i am doing right now
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22:37 NekoGloop oh ok
22:37 NekoGloop this seems stable enough ;)
22:38 NekoGloop testing fps caps now, seeing if mapgen can be made less laggy with the mods i have
22:38 celeron55 aaanyway, if your FPS raised much with the update, you now know that your GPU is slow at switching textures
22:38 celeron55 if it didn't raise, you know that your GPU is fast at switching textures 8)
22:38 NekoGloop :P
22:38 NekoGloop opengl glitch with loading wrong inventorycube is still there
22:39 NekoGloop glitch in opengl or minetest's use of opengl?
22:40 khonkhortisan using node.facedir works half the time
22:40 NekoGloop because nodes dont have facedir
22:40 NekoGloop they have param2
22:40 khonkhortisan they have param2
22:40 NekoGloop ninja'd :D
22:43 NekoGloop no animatedtorches?
22:45 NekoGloop i wonder if animals mod runs faster now
22:47 keegaan is there a new verson of minetest out ?
22:47 NekoGloop yes
22:47 keegaan what is it
22:47 NekoGloop scroll up a bit
22:47 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-rc0-a0da6bc-win32.zip windows precompile
22:48 keegaan what is the new features?
22:48 NekoGloop fps raised for machines with sucky gpus
22:49 keegaan like a 1.33gh\z?
22:49 keegaan ghz*
22:49 NekoGloop that's your processor not gpu
22:49 keegaan whats gpu?
22:49 NekoGloop idk but i know its not that :D
22:50 keegaan i can be the first one to make a 0.4.3 sercver
22:51 NekoGloop the changes shouldnt restrict 0.4.3 from 0.4.2 servers
22:51 NekoGloop so 0.4.3 servers are unneccessary
22:52 keegaan ok
22:52 NekoGloop (unless, of course, i completely misunderstood what celeron55 said)
22:53 NekoGloop as a matter of fact... if you are completely content with 0.4.2, there's no need to get 0.4.3.
22:53 celeron55 GPU = graphics processing unit = video card
22:53 celeron55 0.4.3 and 0.4.2 are not generally compatible
22:53 keegaan ah
22:54 celeron55 there was a small change that forced incompatibility
22:54 celeron55 due to a historical brainfart
22:54 NekoGloop oh
22:54 celeron55 or, well, whatever
22:54 NekoGloop well then my mind is fail
22:54 NekoGloop are servers compatible?
22:54 NekoGloop or will servers need upgrading?
22:55 celeron55 they need upgrading
22:55 NekoGloop anyway, many bugfixes i'm sure were applied between what i was using and 0.4.3
22:56 NekoGloop seeing if youtube lags minetest, and if so, how much
22:56 keegaan will the strict protcol check matter for 0.4.2 r1 server and connect with any other version
22:57 celeron55 a 0.4.2 server will happily work with 0.4.3 clients if strict protocol checking is set to false
22:58 celeron55 but a 0.4.2 client on a 0.4.3 server will fail
22:58 NekoGloop ah, i see
22:58 keegaan somy idea will work?
22:58 NekoGloop so if the server doesnt want to update, just set protocol checking to false?
22:58 celeron55 because it considers a non-fatal difference in the inventory format as fatal and just quits
22:59 NekoGloop i see
22:59 celeron55 that is what is called failed forward compatibility 8)
23:00 celeron55 it happens sometimes
23:00 keegaan in lnux how do i set a launcher to start my server?
23:00 khonkhortisan you could use a .desktop file
23:00 khonkhortisan or a menu editor
23:01 keegaan its a launcher to start the terminal to start the server
23:01 keegaan VanessaE knows how to do it
23:02 NekoGloop celeron55: if i may divert you from coding for about half an hour, would you like to check out my games?
23:03 khonkhortisan xterm -e minetestserver
23:03 NekoGloop i assume since you are building minetest for windows you have windows
23:04 keegaan i dont have windows
23:04 NekoGloop i'm talking to celeron55
23:05 celeron55 i don't really have a proper windows, just a virtual machine that can barely run a compiler... and a desktop computer that i don't really use, under a pile of crap
23:05 NekoGloop lol
23:06 NekoGloop well wine -should- run my games, they arent very resource-intensive.
23:06 celeron55 it'd probably run your games though
23:06 FreeFull celeron55: What you need is someone else to build minetest for windows for you
23:06 celeron55 also the WM might too
23:06 celeron55 FreeFull: eh, why?
23:06 NekoGloop er... doesnt sfan5 do that already? :D
23:07 FreeFull Although that would be an issue if you want to test minetest
23:07 FreeFull So maybe not
23:07 NekoGloop gimme a minute, i'll have the links to downloads of the games
23:08 celeron55 i'm going to sleep now
23:08 NekoGloop one minute!
23:08 NekoGloop http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop
23:08 celeron55 it's 02:08 here and i need to wake up for work
23:08 NekoGloop ok :P
23:08 NekoGloop download the game so you can play it later then :D
23:08 NekoGloop http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184601-2-d-minecraft
23:09 NekoGloop http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/194886-so-you-wanted-to-play-god
23:09 NekoGloop just for anyone else :P
23:09 NekoGloop why do sfan5's signs look horrible
23:11 NekoGloop how do i fix the horrible signs? i like the idea, dont like the fact they look horrible. what do i set the font size to, and how many lines?
23:11 NekoGloop i know someone did this, cant remember who though
23:11 UbuntuNerd celeron55
23:12 NekoGloop he's afk for about 6 hours 8)
23:15 UbuntuNerd ok can you help me
23:15 NekoGloop idk what's the problem?
23:19 UbuntuNerd i need someone to help me make a cmakelists.txt for a minetest src file
23:22 NekoGloop i have no idea what you just said... so sorry, i cant help 8)
23:23 NekoGloop (i stole celeron's mese glasses. shhhhh.)
23:30 FreeFull http://www.delvergame.com/
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23:36 pskosinski Mine(test|craft) Island: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/litlanesfoss-waterfall-iceland/#4613
23:37 NekoGloop we need floating islands. :D
23:37 VanessaE wow, weird
23:37 VanessaE must be an enormous crystalline-mineral content in those rocks
23:38 pskosinski No idea but looks nice
23:38 VanessaE yes
23:38 FreeFull VanessaE: There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant%27s_Causeway which is in ireland
23:39 VanessaE I wonder how formations like that happen?
23:39 NekoGloop certain rocks bind in cylinders
23:39 VanessaE small crystals, I get....but macro-size rocks?  eech
23:39 NekoGloop same with some crystals
23:40 NekoGloop also the elements; wind and water may erode a stone pillar till it is perfectly-ish round
23:47 NekoGloop anyway... i think i lost the mesecons competition... temperest wins with a mere wave of his hand... it's not fair :(
23:48 FreeFull You must swap hands
23:49 NekoGloop yes, i must saw his hands off and take them for my own! >:D
23:52 NekoGloop brb stealing temperest's hands

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