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00:01 Keegann what do people do when there bored?
00:02 NekoGloop make mods
00:02 NekoGloop play minetest
00:02 NekoGloop etc.
00:02 sdzen install things
00:02 sdzen delete stuff
00:02 sdzen partition
00:02 NekoGloop delete stuff
00:02 NekoGloop like system32
00:02 sdzen yes
00:02 Keegann no
00:03 sdzen thats my favorite
00:03 NekoGloop \:D/
00:03 Keegann not fun
00:03 sdzen it makes my computer run so much faster
00:03 Keegann doubt it
00:03 Keegann does your screen go black
00:03 khonkhortisan play a game until I learn the mechanics, then program it
00:03 Keegann when you deletee iit
00:05 khonkhortisan not again! my wires won't go off!
00:05 khonkhortisan I don't think I'll be able to make an entry in the competition.
00:05 NekoGloop ok
00:05 NekoGloop less competition :3
00:06 Basstard` PRESS PLAY ON TAPE
00:07 khonkhortisan I know! pressing reset should turn all the lights on, then off. That should clear everything.
00:10 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, NekoGloop & others: now with damage and animation: http://ompldr.org/vZjl6NQ/tnt.zip
00:10 NekoGloop thankies
00:11 NekoGloop i figured out how to make a signal go up
00:12 NekoGloop use an even amount of mesecon torches pointing upwards
00:12 khonkhortisan It's that simple?
00:12 khonkhortisan Can the signal go down?
00:12 NekoGloop probably
00:12 NekoGloop but this is oneway
00:13 khonkhortisan just have a two-way street and connect it together
00:13 khonkhortisan one stack going up, one stack going down, connected by wire at both ends
00:14 NekoGloop yup
00:14 NekoGloop ofc vertical mesecons are better :3
00:16 bas080 Improved the habitat function and updated the jungletree and plants mod for support
00:16 khonkhortisan Is it 1 when storing and #1 when reading for microcontroller memory?
00:17 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: yes
00:17 PilzAdam anyone has more ideas for crafting tnt and gunpowder?
00:18 NekoGloop pilzadam: hmm...
00:18 RealBadAngel cook coal for gundpower?
00:18 NekoGloop make more 'levels' of tnt, e.g. stone/steel/mese with larger radiuses
00:18 khonkhortisan a smaller explosion with stacked gunpowder, fireworks
00:18 bas080 PilzAdam, use grinder.
00:19 NekoGloop realbadangel: unifieddyes
00:19 khonkhortisan dyed gunpowder? why?
00:19 NekoGloop no
00:19 NekoGloop cooking coal is used in unifieddyes
00:19 RealBadAngel my grinder already makes coal dust out of coal
00:19 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no more levels of tnt... there is the nuke mod for that
00:19 NekoGloop realbadangel: same problem with furnaces, recipe is taken by unifieddyes
00:19 RealBadAngel could be mixed with sand for example
00:20 bas080 Grind it all and mix it in crafting. Saltpeter charcoal and sulfur are main ingredients for most gunpowder and blackpowder.
00:20 RealBadAngel o, the charcoal
00:20 bas080 A good standard black powder:..100 parts saltpeter + 18 parts coal + 16 parts sulfur
00:20 bas080 A powder without sulfur: ............100 parts saltpeter + 24 parts coal
00:20 bas080
00:20 RealBadAngel cook charcoal then insted of coal
00:20 bas080 http://www.musketeer.ch/blackpowder/recipe.html
00:21 PilzAdam please stick to the default materials
00:21 NekoGloop then use coal + sand
00:21 NekoGloop (for gunpowder)
00:22 RealBadAngel cook wood for charcoal, charcoal to gunpowder
00:22 PilzAdam bas080, anyhow great idea
00:22 RealBadAngel and mix with sand
00:22 PilzAdam NekoGloop, that sounds good
00:22 bas080 or gravel. gravel does not have a real use anyway
00:22 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, too complex
00:23 PilzAdam gravel + sand + coal?
00:23 bas080 or mese + gravel + coal
00:23 khonkhortisan trees->charcoal was already removed
00:23 RealBadAngel dont like mese idea
00:23 PilzAdam bas080,  too rare
00:23 khonkhortisan tnt is for mining, you can't make tnt before mining
00:23 bas080 people should work for there fireworks.
00:23 PilzAdam who votes for gravel + sand + coal?
00:24 khonkhortisan dyes+gunpowder+some kind of covering = firework
00:24 bas080 half a vote
00:24 NekoGloop gravel + coal
00:24 RealBadAngel coal, sand, coal | sand gravel sand | coal sand coal
00:24 bas080 NekoGloop gets 3/4 vote
00:24 PilzAdam bas080, main idea for this mod was a help for mining, so it shouldnt use mese
00:24 * PilzAdam votes for NekoGloop, too
00:25 PilzAdam anyone have a good argument against it?
00:25 bas080 cool.btw i never find mese propably because i like the blue sky way more
00:26 RealBadAngel woohoo, done compilin the game on virtual machine
00:26 RealBadAngel lets give it a try
00:26 PilzAdam 1 gravel + 1 coal = 1 gunpowder?
00:27 bas080 Gun mod could use some gunpowder!
00:27 bas080 3 coal one gravel
00:27 PilzAdam shapeless?
00:27 PilzAdam imo yes
00:28 bas080 Or gravel surrounded by coal
00:28 bas080 4 coals...
00:28 NekoGloop no
00:28 PilzAdam nope
00:28 NekoGloop 1 coal + 1 gravel = 1 gunpowder
00:29 PilzAdam so 3 coals + 1 gravel = ? gunpowder (shapeless)
00:29 PilzAdam forgett that
00:29 RealBadAngel http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9418/debiane.png
00:29 bas080 What can one do with gunpowder?
00:29 RealBadAngel its running :)
00:29 RealBadAngel fps = 3 lol
00:29 bas080 If it's really usefull and effective it should take some time before can b crafted
00:30 khonkhortisan make firecrackers and blow off limbs
00:30 youbi fps = 30, is it good ?
00:30 NekoGloop debian is a windows mini-os?
00:30 RealBadAngel hehehe here yes
00:30 RealBadAngel installed debian 6.0 on virtual machine
00:30 PilzAdam bas080, as i want it as a mining help so the player should get enough to not use a pickaxe
00:30 NekoGloop maybe close some of those windows :3
00:31 PilzAdam -as
00:31 RealBadAngel to compile the game for server
00:31 bas080 how much nodes does it remove?
00:31 khonkhortisan 5x2x5 minus about 5 nodes when placed on flat ground
00:31 bas080 and does it also remove ores? Or maybe it could drop ores to the ground.
00:31 PilzAdam like the leaves of trees
00:32 khonkhortisan it will not do anything special to ores that it does not do to stone
00:32 PilzAdam bas080, it drops everything to the ground
00:32 khonkhortisan tnt is not selective
00:32 NekoGloop it drops the same items you'd get from mining it
00:32 PilzAdam yes
00:32 khonkhortisan so no blasting out stone or sandstone, they get converted
00:32 PilzAdam you have to pick up everything by hand if you dont want to cheat
00:33 bas080 That sound very useful!
00:33 NekoGloop and i just have to pick everything up by hand
00:33 NekoGloop item_drop doesnt work for me
00:33 PilzAdam bas080, that what i want it to be
00:34 PilzAdam crafting ideas for tnt needed
00:34 PilzAdam currently its gunpowder surrounded by 8 wood
00:35 PilzAdam anyone?
00:35 NekoGloop hmm
00:36 khonkhortisan gunpowder should also be on top because you can see it there
00:36 NekoGloop make it gunpowder + 4 wood in a "+" shape
00:36 PilzAdam why wood?
00:37 NekoGloop because wood you dont need a pickaxe for
00:37 PilzAdam you need a pickaxe for coal to get gunpowder
00:38 NekoGloop true
00:38 NekoGloop then use cobble
00:38 NekoGloop (in the plus shape)
00:38 PilzAdam why cobble?
00:38 NekoGloop because... idk
00:39 NekoGloop maybe because if you're gonna get coal you're gonna get cobble
00:39 PilzAdam btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitrotoluene
00:40 NekoGloop so?
00:40 PilzAdam nothing
00:40 PilzAdam i like wikipedia
00:40 PilzAdam <NekoGloop> maybe because if you're gonna get coal you're gonna get cobble
00:40 PilzAdam thats not a good reason
00:41 NekoGloop yes it is
00:41 PilzAdam i want something that is at least a bit realistic
00:41 NekoGloop it is realistic
00:41 NekoGloop unless you wanna use steel
00:41 bas080 I'm of. Don't stay up to early guys!
00:41 RealBadAngel my recipe wasnt good?
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00:41 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, what was it?
00:42 RealBadAngel coal, sand, coal | sand gravel sand | coal sand coal
00:42 NekoGloop we arent talking about gunpowder now
00:42 NekoGloop we're talking about the tnt itself
00:43 RealBadAngel ah, sorry
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00:43 PilzAdam btw its too expensive
00:44 NekoGloop pilzadam: i like it as it is
00:44 PilzAdam maybe without the corner wood? so you only have to use 4 wood
00:45 NekoGloop well that would be a + shape, wouldnt it? :3
00:45 PilzAdam yes
00:45 PilzAdam what do you say?
00:46 NekoGloop yes
00:46 PilzAdam great
00:46 NekoGloop i want that recipe
00:46 PilzAdam anyone dont like it?
00:46 NekoGloop *cough*ialreadychangedmine*cough*
00:46 PilzAdam nobody?
00:47 PilzAdam selled at the nice guy in the 3rd row
00:47 NekoGloop yay~
00:47 nice_guy thank you, thank you!
00:47 * nice_guy takes his recipe
00:47 * nice_guy goes away
00:48 khonkhortisan I had to increase my active_block_range yet again, it's now up to five.
00:48 PilzAdam Next point on the list: I need better inventory textures for the gunpowder
00:48 khonkhortisan yep
00:49 PilzAdam and i dont use the dye textures
00:49 PilzAdam its too confusing for users
00:49 NekoGloop hm
00:49 NekoGloop use coal colors, mesecon's old raillike drawtype graphics
00:49 NekoGloop that should work wonderfully
00:49 PilzAdam maybe a barrel
00:50 PilzAdam NekoGloop, only inventory textures
00:50 NekoGloop ah
00:50 NekoGloop well the placed textures dont connect
00:50 NekoGloop and that's ugly
00:50 PilzAdam it was way uglier with connecting textures
00:51 NekoGloop trust me
00:51 NekoGloop it isnt
00:51 NekoGloop oh i've got an idea
00:51 PilzAdam trust me; it is
00:51 NekoGloop use redstone textures in grayscale
00:51 NekoGloop there's your 'dust' effect
00:52 khonkhortisan or design it yourself and not have to think about fair use rationale
00:52 NekoGloop heh
00:52 NekoGloop redstone textures are distributed freely
00:52 sdzen just make it default_stone.png
00:53 NekoGloop just go on the wiki :3
00:53 khonkhortisan yeah you never have stone in your inventory
00:53 PilzAdam the problem with the connectin texutures is: 1st: the burning gunpowder dont connect to the non burning; 2nd: the normal gunpowder without any others around them is a line
00:53 khonkhortisan so if you can add two images together in a node definition, can you subtract images?
00:54 PilzAdam how to.... what?
00:55 khonkhortisan tiles = {"firstimage.png^secondimage.png"}, makes the first one show through where the second is transparent.
00:55 PilzAdam i know
00:55 PilzAdam but subtract is somehow strange; how would you do that?
00:55 khonkhortisan but what if there were three images, and the third one was a mask that said where the second one was transparent so you could see the first one?
00:56 PilzAdam maybe i will write my own connection of gunpowder...
00:57 * PilzAdam dont like it because its a lot of work and its slow
00:58 * PilzAdam got to sleep
00:58 PilzAdam bye
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00:58 NekoGloop Hello again :P
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01:06 _2cool4me4_ I think I made this adder a bit too long
01:07 khonkhortisan active_block_range
01:10 _2cool4me4_ what
01:10 _2cool4me4_ no, it's just really long
01:17 RealBadAngel ive managed to start minetestserver on remote debian box
01:17 NekoGloop Heh nice
01:17 RealBadAngel it starts, running
01:17 RealBadAngel but cant connect to it
01:17 RealBadAngel any ideas?
01:18 NekoGloop Maybe feed it a cookie?
01:18 RealBadAngel problem sendin a cookie through ssh ;)
01:18 NekoGloop Heh
01:24 Basstard` When has Minetest been tested enough?
01:24 NekoGloop When we come up with a better name
01:33 _2cool4me4_ when 2cool becomes cooler
01:33 Basstard` Mumine/Muumine/Moomine/µMine
01:34 NekoGloop MicroMine?
01:34 NekoGloop Heh ya right
01:39 RealBadAngel it looks i dont have any open port here damn
01:42 _2cool4me4_ a majority of the time on this adder is wiring the stupid switches
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01:50 _2cool4me4_ 4 lights wired...
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01:54 _2cool4me4_ Does anything wireless work in Mesecons
01:54 NekoGloop No
01:54 _2cool4me4_ CRAP
01:55 VanessaE not here, it stinks and draws flies.
01:55 _2cool4me4_ *facepalm*
01:55 * NekoGloop gives vanessae a cookie
01:58 VanessaE heh
02:08 Keegann want me to say something funny
02:08 VanessaE ?
02:08 Keegann I am proud of myself. I finished the puzzle in just 6 months while the box said 2 to 4 years.
02:08 Keegann im bored
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02:11 _2cool4me4_ This... this is not an adder
02:11 NekoGloop No
02:11 _2cool4me4_ This... is a dissapointment
02:11 NekoGloop THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA!
02:11 * _2cool4me4_ kicks
02:12 * NekoGloop 's scream of "sparta" slowly fades as he falls
02:12 _2cool4me4_ I see what you did ther
02:13 _2cool4me4_ I spent all day on this adder...
02:13 _2cool4me4_ And it is nothing
02:13 NekoGloop Cool
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02:13 NekoGloop I spent a couple hours making some random stuff
02:14 _2cool4me4_ Wait...
02:14 _2cool4me4_ This adder is pointless
02:14 _2cool4me4_ WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME
02:14 NekoGloop Now, i want a microcontroller that prodictively uses the eeprom
02:15 _2cool4me4_ Good luck
02:15 NekoGloop Yeh
02:15 NekoGloop About the best use i can think of is a lock that needs three buttons to be pressed in order
02:16 NekoGloop If i werent on my ipad i'd make that right now
02:18 _2cool4me4_ I screwed up this stupid adder
02:18 * _2cool4me4_ kicks adder
02:18 NekoGloop Heh
02:18 * _2cool4me4_ kicks neko
02:18 NekoGloop There's a snake known as an adder
02:18 _2cool4me4_ softly
02:19 * NekoGloop hisses
02:19 * _2cool4me4_ kicks harder
02:19 NekoGloop No kicking the kitty!
02:19 _2cool4me4_ oh, not snake
02:19 _2cool4me4_ cat
02:19 * NekoGloop claws at 2cool's face
02:20 * _2cool4me4_ makes the following face: D:
02:20 _2cool4me4_ I'll go back to that broken thing tomorrow
02:20 VanessaE there, that's enough graphics for tonight.
02:20 NekoGloop VanessaE: Lol ok
02:21 VanessaE NekoGloop: and no, it wasn't for gloopblocks/ores :-)
02:21 NekoGloop I notice you didnt exclude toolsizes :3
02:21 VanessaE NekoGloop: and no, it wasn't for gloopblocks/ores/toolssizes :-)
02:21 VanessaE ;)
02:21 NekoGloop Heh
02:21 NekoGloop Well i do need a better evil block texture
02:22 _2cool4me4_ I'm gonna leave now
02:22 NekoGloop Current one doesnt look very... Evil
02:30 Basstard` KHAAAAAAAN
02:31 * NekoGloop kicks basstard
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02:39 VanessaE bbl
02:39 VanessaE time to sleep
02:39 VanessaE night all
02:44 NekoGloop Heh
02:46 * NekoGloop is bored :/
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02:57 NekoGloop So, what's everyone working on?
02:57 saschaheylik money
02:58 Keegann air
02:58 saschaheylik last time i checked air was free
02:58 Keegann last time i check i almost died
02:58 saschaheylik so?
03:00 * mrtux is away: going to bed
03:13 saschaheylik do we have any idea how many people play minetest?
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04:11 cornernote hi
04:12 cornernote has anyone heard of the humble bundle ?
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04:13 cornernote anyway, its a site where they sell a bundle of indie games every few months... the buyer pays any amount they want, and the money goes to charity or to the game developer
04:13 cornernote i know MT is free, but i thought it might be a cool way to increase exposure
04:14 cornernote if it made money, upto c55 if he uses it as incentive to code more, or donate to charity, or whatever
04:14 cornernote but the main point is the exposure
04:15 khonkhortisan I left minetest running watching a blinkyplant change the squares on tictactoe and it flooded my memory and swap
04:15 cornernote hey khonkhortisan
04:15 khonkhortisan hello
04:16 cornernote thats bad :(  does it mean many games will result in the same thing ?
04:16 cornernote or just cos all the signals were queued up
04:16 cornernote did u get your power-rotator working ?
04:19 khonkhortisan I didn't try the power rotator.
04:19 khonkhortisan it also uses memory if I start a game, quit, start, quit without restarting the client
04:21 cornernote i made a really simple game of rock scissors paper, i'd imagine the whole tic-tac-toe play and winner would be a whole lot more complex
04:21 cornernote i started making buttons that stay lit up, then unlight when you press another one
04:22 cornernote wanted to make it so once you choose, your choice is locked in and you cant change
04:22 cornernote with 1 central reset button that resets both players
04:22 cornernote but it takes soooo much time =)
04:22 cornernote lol
04:23 cornernote u should post some screens of your project in a thread in the forum so we can see your progress
04:23 cornernote unless its top secret
04:27 khonkhortisan why didn't I think of rock paper scissors?
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04:36 cornernote how might one go about generating a random"ish" value using mesecons ?
04:40 khonkhortisan connect all four delayer types together? might have to research random theory. If there were animals you could use an animal detector.
04:42 khonkhortisan rock paper scissors would be much easier than tictactoe.
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04:47 Calinou haha, people in #bukkit complain about minecraft's slowness, even on gaming servers
04:47 Calinou +1 minetest :D
04:48 khonkhortisan what can I use that a) alternates faster than a blinky plant b) still works after restarting the server and c) doesn't overheat chips?
04:49 Calinou don't know
04:49 Calinou not a mesecons pro :p
04:49 cornernote khonkhortisan, you can change the abm interval time of a blinkyplant
04:50 Calinou though, he wants the plant to work after restart
04:56 khonkhortisan got it. It doesn't blink at a consistent rate, but it works.
04:59 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7885307908/in/photostream/lightbox/
05:01 khonkhortisan If I have just a µc-delayer loop, it stops after a server restart. If I have just a blinky plant, it blinks too slow. Two NOTs and it overheats. So the right one in the picture is programmed if(D)sbi(A,!C);if(!D)sbi(A,C); and the left one is programmed if(D)sbi(A,C);if(!D)sbi(A,!C);
05:01 khonkhortisan So there's a clock with the blinkyplant as an inverter to start it up again, which also throws off the timing. If I make the delayer go as fast as possible, the left chip overheats.
05:02 cornernote lol
05:02 cornernote overheats ?
05:03 cornernote as in, pops out of the node block into an object ?
05:03 khonkhortisan make two microcontrollers, connect them together, and program them to be NOTs and see what happens
05:03 khonkhortisan yep
05:03 cornernote yeah, i had my whole thing wired and programmed
05:03 cornernote and i connected a wrong wire
05:03 cornernote pop
05:03 cornernote all gone
05:03 cornernote lol
05:03 khonkhortisan I did that too, about ten chips all at once
05:05 khonkhortisan that's better, now someone won't think the game lost their data when they win and the line starts blinking.
05:07 khonkhortisan I keep having to go through every row of chips, now this is programmed this way, and it's supposed to do that...
05:08 khonkhortisan aah! the dreaded wire that doesn't turn off! aah!
05:12 khonkhortisan µc with port C off -- on wire -- µc with port A off
05:14 khonkhortisan I think I will put it on the forum.
05:18 khonkhortisan Anyone know why a router wouldn't save port forwardings?
05:24 khonkhortisan where's a good place to put a zip file?
05:27 SmugLeaf MF
05:28 khonkhortisan I'd host it myself if I could figure out my router
05:32 leo_rockway khonkhortisan │ it also uses memory if I start a game, quit, start, quit without restarting the client <--- this
05:33 leo_rockway I think all of us experience that
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05:58 khonkhortisan Okay cornernote, there's your forum post.
06:05 khonkhortisan oh. I have the X's and O's cross-wired on the second row.
06:08 khonkhortisan huh. it even blinks right if I win in two directions. I didn't even plan for that.
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07:31 cornernote i cant work out how to make a counter in mesecons
07:32 cornernote eg, a row of lights, and each interval a different one lights up
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08:39 cy1 cornernote: go build actual circuit boards you complete fool. haven't you ever heard of an arduino
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08:42 wei2912 cyl: lol
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09:07 wei2912 made a weird world
09:08 wei2912 where you go down a hole
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09:24 cornernote cy1, whats with the attitude?  i know what an arduino is, i dont want to do that, i want to do it in minetest
09:25 cornernote if you dont know how to do it, then thats fine, no need to be rude
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09:28 cornernote also i havent seen an arduino that can make a piston counter
09:34 wei2912 cornernote: hi
09:34 wei2912 any ideas on how to convert a whole map to a certain terrain?
09:35 cornernote an ABM that replaces nodes ?
09:35 cornernote like find dirt, replace with sand... that type of thing ?
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09:36 wei2912 cornernote, yup
09:36 wei2912 VanessaE told me to ask you
09:37 cornernote you'll have to make a list of nodes, and what you want to convert them to
09:37 cornernote but you will then never have dirt, it will always turn to sand
09:37 cornernote thats what you want ?
09:39 wei2912 cornernote, yup
09:39 wei2912 or maybe i can change to a specific terrain
09:39 wei2912 i'm thinking instead of converting, change the mapgen?
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09:40 cornernote mapgen is in c++
09:40 cornernote you can use hooks, after_generated() i think it is
09:40 cornernote but its not very fast
09:40 cornernote for massive blocks
09:41 wei2912 cornernote, lol
09:41 wei2912 hmm
09:42 cornernote i'll make 2 examples
09:42 wei2912 i
09:42 cornernote sec..
09:42 wei2912 okay
09:42 saschaheylik hey, any advances on antialiasing?
09:42 cornernote you can try them both, see which performs better
09:43 wei2912 cornernote, thanks
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09:45 cornernote i didnt test them, and if you know a little lua you should be able to build a table with the old/new nodenames, and put this code into a loop
09:45 cornernote http://pastebin.com/1HxY5nD3
09:45 cornernote but thats the basic idea
09:45 saschaheylik hey, any advances on antialiasing?
09:45 cornernote more info on the functions i used are in the lua api - https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
09:46 cornernote saschaheylik, you just asked that.  if anyone knows they will answer
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09:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:53 wei2912 oh cornernote
09:53 wei2912 thanks a lot
09:56 wei2912 PilzAdam, hi
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10:05 wei2912 cornernote, where do i put it? lol
10:05 wei2912 i know no lua
10:07 cornernote oh, then you better start with the modding tutorial
10:07 cornernote sec..
10:07 wei2912 cornernote, lol thanks
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10:08 cornernote http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/tutorial/
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10:13 youbi I can’t find any apples, is this the same than for monsters ?
10:14 wei2912 cornernote, thanks
10:14 PilzAdam apples are only in trees, placed by the player threw saplings
10:14 PilzAdam *by
10:15 wei2912 PilzAdam, any bonemeal?
10:15 wei2912 bone meal*
10:15 wei2912 http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bone_Meal
10:15 wei2912 just wondering
10:16 PilzAdam not in minetest
10:16 youbi Oh. I thought that apples were naturally in some trees
10:16 PilzAdam not in the map generation
10:16 youbi Ok
10:17 PilzAdam only in sapling generated trees
10:17 youbi That’s not a problem.
10:17 youbi That’s quit logic
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10:17 wei2912 PilzAdam, :(
10:17 wei2912 lol
10:18 PilzAdam you can write a mod that adds it
10:19 youbi And saplings are found by cutting trees, right ?
10:19 wei2912 PilzAdam, lol
10:19 wei2912 mod noob
10:19 PilzAdam youbi, yes
10:22 PilzAdam anyone want to test a tnt mod pre-release?
10:25 wei2912 PilzAdam, me
10:25 cornernote im trying to make a counter using a row of mC .. i want i cant seem to get them to behave nicely
10:26 wei2912 thought there was nuke?
10:26 cornernote i have this: if(B)after(4,"on(A,C)");if(D)after(2,"off(A,C)");
10:26 PilzAdam wei2912, http://ompldr.org/vZmEzeA/tnt.zip
10:26 PilzAdam nuke is very different
10:26 cornernote A is the input, and A loops back to D, and goes into the next chip's A.. and C is the output
10:34 cornernote ok, i got it to work with delayers, then used torches as inverters to read the signal
10:34 wei2912 PilzAdam, testing your mod
10:35 PilzAdam craft gunpowder with gravel+coal
10:35 PilzAdam craft tnt with gunpowder surrounded by wood in a +
10:36 PilzAdam blow it up by hitting it with a torch
10:36 PilzAdam you can use gunpowder as a fuze
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10:36 wei2912 yay
10:36 wei2912 PilzAdam, any plans to make more powerful ones?
10:36 PilzAdam nope, see nuke mod
10:37 wei2912 PilzAdam, okay
10:37 wei2912 my feedback
10:37 wei2912 this is quite light
10:37 wei2912 doesn't lag
10:37 wei2912 only problem is blast radius too small
10:37 PilzAdam it is a mining help
10:38 PilzAdam the blast radius is not to small
10:38 PilzAdam i dont want to overpower it
10:38 VanessaE good morning
10:38 wei2912 VanessaE, hi
10:38 wei2912 PilzAdam, hmm
10:38 PilzAdam morning VanessaE
10:38 wei2912 3x3x3 radius?
10:38 wei2912 PilzAdam, any github repo?
10:38 wei2912 feel like forking it
10:39 PilzAdam not yet
10:39 PilzAdam its the same as leaves on trees
10:39 wei2912 PilzAdam, hmm
10:39 wei2912 can i start one?
10:39 PilzAdam i will do
10:39 wei2912 okay
10:40 wei2912 waiting till then
10:40 wei2912 because my hands are itching to fork it
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10:41 wei2912 PilzAdam, minetest crashed?
10:42 PilzAdam ?
10:42 wei2912 PilzAdam, minetest crashed*
10:42 wei2912 but i think it's because i put too much tnt
10:43 PilzAdam could be
10:43 wei2912 PilzAdam, hmm
10:43 wei2912 tnt doesn't fly away
10:43 PilzAdam yes
10:43 PilzAdam its blows up directly when another tnt explodes near by
10:44 wei2912 PilzAdam, lol
10:44 wei2912 i need to take a picture
10:44 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
10:44 wei2912 PilzAdam, because it does that
10:44 wei2912 let me produce a diagram
10:44 wei2912 | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
10:45 wei2912 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
10:45 wei2912 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
10:45 wei2912 that's what happens
10:45 PilzAdam ?
10:45 wei2912 PilzAdam, when the first tnt in the row is detonated
10:45 wei2912 2nd diagram appears
10:46 wei2912 for a few milliseconds
10:46 wei2912 before the 3rd appears
10:46 PilzAdam what is 0 and what is |?
10:46 wei2912 0 -> detonated tnt
10:46 wei2912 | -> remaining tnt
10:47 wei2912 @PilzAdam
10:48 PilzAdam so you have 3 tnt in a row?
10:48 wei2912 no
10:48 wei2912 PilzAdam, multiple tnt
10:49 PilzAdam screenshot?
10:49 wei2912 PilzAdam, will try to get a video
10:50 PilzAdam k
10:50 wei2912 my gosh
10:50 wei2912 weird bug
10:50 wei2912 PilzAdam, wait a moment
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11:18 PilzAdam anyone has a idea why this does not work: http://pastebin.com/D2tJWAQh (i get the messages at line 3 and 4)
11:20 wei2912 PilzAdam, nvm
11:20 wei2912 just try stacking a tower of tnt
11:20 wei2912 light it up
11:20 wei2912 and run away
11:20 wei2912 view it from a distance - you'll see what i mean
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11:35 VanessaE zzz
11:36 PilzAdam anyone has a idea why this does not work: http://pastebin.com/D2tJWAQh (i get the messages at line 3 and 4 but not the others)
11:36 VanessaE Calinou: misa's pack may require updates :-)
11:36 Calinou why?
11:36 VanessaE Calinou: recent updates to pipeworks and mesecons.
11:36 * Calinou feels like a minecraft mod developer when he gets asked this
11:36 Calinou there was never pipeworks support in misa
11:36 PilzAdam wei2912, if you are too far away the nodes dont update so you see them even if they arent there
11:36 Calinou I need to update mesecons, yes
11:36 VanessaE lazy ;)
11:37 Calinou unfortunately I can't change nodeboxes without editing the lua, and I would probably have to do this
11:37 Calinou the 3D wires look like shit sometimes
11:37 Calinou honest
11:37 VanessaE :(
11:37 PilzAdam i like them
11:37 VanessaE they look better than the old raillike ones
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11:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: re: the code you pasted, no idea since it uses the mesecons API :-/
11:38 VanessaE however, maybe you need to also register it as an effector
11:39 VanessaE and register its connection rules
11:39 VanessaE without doing those I'm pretty sure the node won't respond to a signal
11:40 VanessaE Calinou: so what looks wrong about them?
11:41 wei2912 PilzAdam, not too far away*
11:41 wei2912 maybe... 6?
11:42 PilzAdam maybe 50
11:42 wei2912 50???
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11:57 cornernote PilzAdam, i put that code into a new mod
11:57 cornernote and it seems to work fine
11:58 Calinou VanessaE, too thick, too many nodeboxes used (should only use 4 nodeboxes or so at most), hard to texture for HD packs
11:58 Calinou can't imagine any way to do this properly
11:58 cornernote soon as i pressed a button it spat out [tnt_debug] register_on_signal_on() about 50 times
11:58 wei2912 PilzAdam, see it?
11:58 VanessaE Calinou: I was able to do it nicely in my 512px pack
11:58 NekoGloop Hm?
11:58 NekoGloop Tnt got an update?
11:58 NekoGloop Brb
11:58 PilzAdam cornernote, i already fixed it (it is only in latest mesecons)
11:58 VanessaE Calinou: besides, they're textured in 64px by default :-)
11:58 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
11:58 VanessaE or do you mean mesecons?
12:00 Calinou mesecons
12:00 Calinou <VanessaE> Calinou: besides, they're textured in 64px by default :-)
12:00 VanessaE well I managed to do those also
12:00 Calinou should be 16px... per convention
12:00 VanessaE mesecons are 16px actually.
12:00 Calinou 64x in 16x world doesn't fit
12:01 VanessaE pipes are 64px because I couldn't make them look at all good in 16px.
12:01 Calinou I could make decent textures for pipes, yeah, but hardly for mesecons, or I will have to fiddle & trick around a lot
12:01 VanessaE and they seem to fit in just fine amongst 16px textures.
12:01 Calinou perhaps I'll add a fake "glowing" effect to activated mesecons
12:01 wei2912 VanessaE, i remove those stuff i didn't like in your mod
12:01 wei2912 so now
12:01 wei2912 there's a pixelated + realistic texture :D
12:01 VanessaE Calinou: take a look at the latest version of the HDX texture pack and see how I did mesecons.
12:02 VanessaE wei2912: which as I recall was only the wield hand, which I've since replaced.
12:02 wei2912 lol
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12:02 wei2912 no
12:02 wei2912 some things were a bit too realistic to me
12:02 VanessaE haha
12:02 VanessaE hell I figured some stuff wasn't realistic enough :-)
12:02 VanessaE (like stone)
12:03 wei2912 VanessaE, tree leaves were too realistic
12:03 VanessaE ha!  tree leaves look like shit compared to what I could do if I had better images to work with :D
12:04 cornernote i found that, some textures were too realistic
12:04 cornernote my wife loves that texture pack tho
12:04 wei2912 lol
12:04 wei2912 love the grass and desert sand
12:04 cornernote thats the great thing about minetest, easy to mod it how you want it
12:04 wei2912 ah crap
12:05 cornernote cobble was too noisy for me
12:05 wei2912 i went into lava that looked like desert sand
12:06 VanessaE haha
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12:10 wei2912 VanessaE, found a flatland mod
12:10 wei2912 just what i wanted
12:10 wei2912 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1504
12:11 PilzAdam its realy buggy
12:12 VanessaE wei2912: jeez, you never said you want flat land..
12:12 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
12:12 wei2912 sry
12:12 wei2912 PilzAdam, lol
12:12 VanessaE if I'd known that I could have had that slow-laggy-ass server of yours converted over in just a few minutes :-)
12:12 wei2912 VanessaE, :D
12:12 wei2912 VanessaE, how?
12:13 wei2912 if you give me the command
12:13 wei2912 'it would work much faster
12:13 VanessaE wei2912: worldedit, use it to replace everything above roughly -30 with air, then everything from -30 to about -10 with stone, -10 to -5 with desert stone, -5 to 0 with desert sand.
12:14 wei2912 VanessaE, how do i go about doing that?
12:14 wei2912 setting positions
12:14 VanessaE //teleport -1000,-30,-1000
12:14 VanessaE er
12:14 VanessaE ok hang on, lemme make this into a text file I can just paste.
12:15 wei2912 VanessaE, thanks
12:15 wei2912 then you can join and survey it
12:17 VanessaE wei2912: incoming flood my /msg , okay?
12:17 wei2912 okay
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12:19 VanessaE brb'
12:19 wei2912 VanessaE, wait a moment
12:19 wei2912 you didn't talk about replacing air?
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12:23 wei2912 VanessaE, executing...
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12:25 VanessaE wei2912:  it will take a while for those commands to complete, depending how fast your box is
12:26 wei2912 wth
12:26 wei2912 40004001 nodes set
12:26 PilzAdam Calinou, you should update beds and throwing in the minetest wiki (i made better versions of those two)
12:26 wei2912 VanessaE, ^^
12:26 VanessaE *nod sounds right
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12:27 VanessaE wei2912: there's a lot of nodes after all :-)
12:27 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
12:27 wei2912 slashing some texture packs together
12:27 wei2912 stashing*
12:27 wei2912 ah nvm
12:28 VanessaE 1000*1000 = 1,000,000 square, times 20 high so 20 million nodes, minus caves et.al
12:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, did you read what i wrote on -mods?
12:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: yes, just don't know how to respond yet :-)
12:29 VanessaE PilzAdam: I wish Jeija were here, he'd have more concrete answers than me
12:29 VanessaE where mesecons is concerned, I'm mostly just the graphic artist
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12:37 NekoGloop hello :3
12:37 PilzAdam hi NekoGloop
12:38 wei2912 VanessaE, not finished yet?
12:38 NekoGloop did tnt get an update?
12:38 PilzAdam see this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
12:38 wei2912 no
12:38 wei2912 it's another mod
12:38 VanessaE wei2912: as I said it'll take a while
12:38 VanessaE hey neko
12:38 NekoGloop hello vanessae
12:39 NekoGloop anything of note that i need to update?
12:39 VanessaE pipeworks, mesecons, item_drop, my HDX pack
12:39 VanessaE not sure what else right now :-)
12:39 NekoGloop heh
12:40 NekoGloop item_drop will work now? :)
12:40 PilzAdam i didnt change anything
12:40 NekoGloop lol
12:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: I thought you did something to fix mesecons?
12:40 VanessaE fix it for*
12:41 PilzAdam in the future
12:41 VanessaE oh ok
12:41 VanessaE ok so take item_drop off the list :D
12:41 NekoGloop he
12:41 NekoGloop heh*
12:41 NekoGloop well item_drop is currently not functioning for me
12:42 NekoGloop so, I'm hoping he starts to test things on windows :)
12:42 * PilzAdam wont do
12:42 NekoGloop heh
12:42 VanessaE windows is obsolete.
12:43 VanessaE microshaft just hasn't figured that out yet ;D
12:43 NekoGloop "windows is obsolete" if so, then why havent I even -seen- a computer that runs anything else?
12:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: you got an android phone?
12:43 NekoGloop nope
12:43 Calinou <NekoGloop> "windows is obsolete" if so, then why havent I even -seen- a computer that runs anything else?
12:43 PilzAdam NekoGloop, the servers from google use linux
12:44 VanessaE well those and webservers mostly use linux
12:44 Calinou it's sold on every single fucking computer
12:44 VanessaE like 90% of them
12:44 Calinou people claim it's "complicated" to have a computer sold without an os because inserting a disk is too hard?
12:44 Calinou <_<
12:44 Calinou ^ even the politics dudes
12:44 Calinou this is why they don't want to forbid windows being sold with computers
12:44 NekoGloop heh
12:44 VanessaE (ok not 90%, more like 70-75% run linux)
12:44 NekoGloop then why -not- have linux be on it when its sold, hm?
12:44 Calinou 58% of smartphones run linux
12:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: because microsoft forbids it.
12:45 Calinou NekoGloop, because people think it is hard to use, ugly and inferior
12:45 PilzAdam https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
12:45 Calinou gtg
12:45 NekoGloop it is ugly and inferior
12:45 VanessaE they won't let a manufacturer sell a computer with windows if they also sell the same model or a comparable one with linux.
12:45 wei2912 NekoGloop, wth?
12:45 VanessaE inferior?  um... which one of us has constant problems with their OS? :0)
12:45 VanessaE :-)
12:45 NekoGloop tell me, is there a Game Maker for linux? no, there's not.
12:45 wei2912 you insulted almost the whole community here
12:46 wei2912 who the heck needs game maker?
12:46 NekoGloop is there any RPG Maker? no, there's not.
12:46 wei2912 who the heck needs rpg maker?
12:46 wei2912 we use python, c++ etc.
12:46 NekoGloop heh
12:46 VanessaE NekoGloop:  the presence of a piece of software on a platform says exactly ZIP about that platform.
12:46 VanessaE why is STEAM coming to linux?
12:46 wei2912 agreed
12:46 NekoGloop VanessaE: I could go on for ages about the software that only runs on windows.
12:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop, http://game-editor.com/Main_Page
12:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: so?
12:47 VanessaE I don't care how much software there is for windows.
12:47 VanessaE because it doesn't matter.
12:47 wei2912 well
12:47 wei2912 there's crap software
12:47 wei2912 you can mention those
12:47 VanessaE what matters is how good the underlying platform is
12:47 wei2912 there's those script kiddies
12:47 NekoGloop ...
12:47 wei2912 who use those batch files
12:47 wei2912 go on, mention them
12:47 PilzAdam http://game-editor.com/Main_Page <- this was 1 sec. search with ixquick NekoGloop
12:47 VanessaE linux has very little desktop market share, that's why there's not much software for it from commercial vendors
12:47 wei2912 i doubt we would like those
12:47 NekoGloop i see you all are going to be as retarded as rba is about redpower
12:47 wei2912 VanessaE, we don't need those commercial vendors
12:48 VanessaE wei2912: agreed
12:48 wei2912 we need open source
12:48 wei2912 NekoGloop, the reason why 90% of the crowd here is linux
12:48 Basstard` wei2912: You mean free software?
12:48 wei2912 is because we believe in open source
12:48 Basstard` wei2912: You mean GNU?
12:48 wei2912 Basstard`, truly i only care if it's open source
12:48 wei2912 restrictions don't mean much to me
12:48 wei2912 unless they don't permit me to use the code
12:48 NekoGloop its very easy to decompile a .exe
12:49 VanessaE NekoGloop: I've been using UNIX-like OS's for 17 years, and linux for the last dozen of those
12:49 wei2912 NekoGloop, not our point here
12:49 wei2912 you know it's illegal
12:49 NekoGloop heh
12:49 NekoGloop many things that people do on computers is illegal, yet -none- of the governments give a shit
12:49 VanessaE I've seen enough software come and go on both platforms to know that it doesn't matter to the vendors how good the underlying framework is - even if it's on a MAC.  All they care about is market share.
12:49 wei2912 macs aren't bad
12:50 wei2912 at least they don't spam BSOD
12:50 VanessaE actually decompiling an .exe isn't illegal per se.  DMCA has a provision for that as long as the .exe isn't encrypted.
12:50 wei2912 there's a joke about microsoft supporting SOPA and using the BSOD to do that
12:50 wei2912 VanessaE, it's under most licenses
12:50 VanessaE at least in the US.  other countries?  I dunno
12:50 wei2912 no reverse engineering allowed
12:50 NekoGloop wei2912: please, I'm too curious what a BSOD looks like, do show me
12:50 VanessaE wei2912: licenses can't override the laws of a country.
12:50 wei2912 lol
12:50 wei2912 VanessaE, well it's for the us
12:51 wei2912 i'm not sure about other countries :)
12:51 wei2912 weird lag speed
12:51 wei2912 lol
12:51 VanessaE wei2912: yes, and a software license can't override the DMCA Interoperability provision :-)
12:51 NekoGloop I've never seen a BSOD ONCE in my usage of windows computers for 8~ years
12:51 wei2912 NekoGloop: lol
12:51 wei2912 you're very lucky
12:52 wei2912 VanessaE, http://www.debugmode.com/dcompile/
12:52 VanessaE NekoGloop: that's because BSOD's aren't as common since XP as they were in previous versions
12:52 NekoGloop no I'm just not stupid
12:52 wei2912 let's refer to a source that is extremely experienced (sort of)
12:52 NekoGloop i dont modify system files like an idiot
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12:52 NekoGloop which, is the bad part of open source
12:52 wei2912 NekoGloop, you don't need to modify system files to get a BSOD
12:53 NekoGloop you mess with something that's vital, you're screwed
12:53 VanessaE wei2912: this page was last updated only just after the DMCA was signed into law, before the interoperability provision was hashed out
12:53 NekoGloop wei2912: i know, that's just the most common way of getting one, sadly.
12:53 VanessaE NekoGloop: wel don't do that either
12:53 VanessaE -l
12:54 NekoGloop oh and decompiling windows itself is fun
12:54 VanessaE and the most common way was to install some piece of legit software that gets stupid and, as you said, fucks with system files.
12:54 NekoGloop now, why the heck cant i download jungletrees
12:54 NekoGloop (bas080's mod)
12:54 wei2912 VanessaE, argh lol
12:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: because it's on github
12:55 NekoGloop heh
12:55 VanessaE and you have problems dealing with github as I recall.
12:55 VanessaE because you insist on using a broken browser.
12:55 NekoGloop heh
12:55 VanessaE wei2912: still working on those worldedit commands? :-)
12:55 NekoGloop "broken browser" & "broken OS", right? you're wrong, there's nothing wrong with IE or windows
12:56 VanessaE NekoGloop: it's like what's his face recently, bullettrulz I think, who can't even *visit* an https link.
12:56 NekoGloop and i just updated TNT mod about 5 mins ago so its not github
12:56 VanessaE IE is broken if it can't handle a site like github.
12:56 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
12:56 NekoGloop no
12:56 wei2912 done 2nd one
12:56 VanessaE NekoGloop: then what is broken?
12:56 NekoGloop i think github had some kind of wierd security thing
12:57 VanessaE github obviously isn't if it works for me and everyone else.
12:57 Basstard` Any non-free software is malware. Don't even bother with it.
12:57 NekoGloop VanessaE: just the download link for bas080's jungletree
12:57 VanessaE weird security thing!?!?  it's https for crying out loud!
12:57 VanessaE that's the industry standard security protocol.
12:57 whirm lol
12:57 NekoGloop well it blocked IE, but only temporarily
12:57 NekoGloop if that's not a wierd security thing then idk what is :)
12:58 NekoGloop and its just jungletree, did he mess with the repo?
12:58 VanessaE because IE is broken.  No one uses it anymore
12:58 wei2912 Basstard`, lol
12:58 wei2912 VanessaE, let's get to his version of IE first
12:58 NekoGloop IE is not broken.
12:58 VanessaE he didn't mess with the repo, I was able to download it just fine - with FIREFOX. :-)
12:58 wei2912 NekoGloop, what version of IE?
12:58 Basstard` wei2912: I'm serious.
12:58 iqualfragile ie is broken
12:58 VanessaE what version of IE then?
12:58 wei2912 lol
12:58 iqualfragile windows is broken
12:58 whirm NekoGloop: are you an experienced dev. IT guy or security expert?
12:58 NekoGloop uh...
12:58 iqualfragile by design
12:59 NekoGloop i dont remember what version i have, lemme check
12:59 wei2912 iqualfragile, agreed
12:59 wei2912 windows xp was the last remaining awesome thing about windows
12:59 wei2912 after that
12:59 wei2912 i have nothing to say
12:59 NekoGloop i have winxp
12:59 VanessaE winXP only has IE 7 at most, right?
12:59 NekoGloop and whatever the highest IE that runs on it is
13:00 wei2912 there you go
13:00 wei2912 IE 7 is broken
13:00 NekoGloop its got tabs, that's all i know :)
13:00 NekoGloop question: have any of you ever used IE7
13:00 wei2912 wait a moment
13:00 wei2912 IE7 isn't
13:00 VanessaE NekoGloop: winXP is badly outdated as is IE.  and YES I have used them both.
13:00 wei2912 it's considered modern
13:00 VanessaE IE8 is out already isn't it?
13:00 wei2912 of course
13:00 wei2912 so is IE9
13:01 NekoGloop IE9 is out
13:01 VanessaE see?
13:01 VanessaE out of date.
13:01 NekoGloop heh
13:01 wei2912 not really
13:01 wei2912 IE7 is a modern browser
13:01 VanessaE well either way
13:01 VanessaE it's still IE and it's still broke :-)
13:01 wei2912 LOL
13:01 wei2912 http://www.debugmode.com/dcompile/
13:01 wei2912 sry wrong one
13:01 NekoGloop half of the software that runs on winxp doesnt run on higher os
13:01 wei2912 Looking for Internet Explorer 9?
13:01 wei2912 To get our latest browser, you need to be running Windows Vista or Windows 7.
13:01 wei2912 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/downloads/ie
13:01 wei2912 and don't sniff at windows
13:02 NekoGloop win7 is borked
13:02 PilzAdam NekoGloop, citation needed
13:02 NekoGloop same with vista
13:02 wei2912 PilzAdam, lol
13:02 wei2912 got a wikipedia account?
13:02 VanessaE NekoGloop: whereas in linux, 95% of the software for it still works even 10 years later
13:02 NekoGloop PilzAdam: almost any software made before 2005
13:02 Basstard` VanessaE: You mean GNU?
13:02 VanessaE Basstard`: whatever you want to call it.  Linux, GNU/Linux, whatever.
13:02 wei2912 Basstard`, fan of GNU?
13:03 PilzAdam btw, i still need textures for gunpowder
13:03 NekoGloop i guess i have to cheat and copy the code directly from github
13:03 Basstard` Linux is merely a kernel, and there are a few of those that you can use with GNU which is the system.
13:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: what you should be doing is running a modern linux distro and use windows under a virtual machine for those couple of things linux can't do, or use WINE if that'll work
13:03 wei2912 wth
13:03 VanessaE Basstard`: please don't confuse the issue - we already know this.
13:03 wei2912 i haven't trolled the windows 8 wikipedia page editors yet?
13:03 Basstard` VanessaE: You seemingly don't.
13:04 VanessaE "Linux" is as much a shorthand for "A GNU/Linux distribution" as "for some software environment based on the Linux kernel".
13:04 NekoGloop VanessaE: lets see... this little part of me cares... oh there goes that pimple, no i dont care any more
13:04 wei2912 damnit
13:04 wei2912 VanessaE, Basstard` http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html
13:05 VanessaE please don't clutter the discussion, we're not jabbering on about semantics.
13:05 Basstard` wei2912: Yes, thank you.
13:05 wei2912 lol
13:05 VanessaE NekoGloop:  heh, ok.  continue to bitch about windows then :-)
13:05 Basstard` VanessaE: Stop confusing people further. I can use Debian without the Linux kernel, would you still call that Linux?
13:05 NekoGloop ...
13:06 wei2912 wth Basstard` ?
13:06 wei2912 it's possible?
13:06 Basstard` Yes.
13:06 wei2912 so what did you replace it with>
13:06 wei2912 ?
13:06 VanessaE Basstard`: I am specifically and exactly talking about ONLY software distributions that use the linux kernel and generally GNU software.
13:06 Basstard` The kernel from FreeBSD, or the HURD kernel.
13:06 wei2912 oh
13:06 VanessaE if I wanted to talk about BSD, AIX, HPUX, I would mention those.
13:06 wei2912 ========================================================== let
13:07 wei2912 ========================================================== let's not argue =========================================
13:07 Basstard` VanessaE: But you are still using the same software, apart from the Linux kernel.
13:07 VanessaE and I used to run FreeBSD.
13:07 PilzAdam please discuss on #linux_or_gnu_linux
13:07 NekoGloop augh...
13:07 VanessaE (fwiw I switched because linux...slackware at the time as I recall... had better video driver support)
13:08 q66 oh, linux vs gnu/linux flamewar, fun
13:08 NekoGloop now, please, will someone upload latest jungletree code to something other than github?
13:08 VanessaE q66: Basstard` started it! D:
13:08 PilzAdam NekoGloop, why?
13:08 wei2912 NekoGloop, we won't
13:08 wei2912 my friend on windows could download it
13:08 NekoGloop because github is being retarded as usual
13:08 q66 VanessaE, FreeBSD has decent video support
13:08 wei2912 (the reason why he uses windows is because he has no time to install linux :P)
13:08 wei2912 and live cds are slow
13:08 q66 assuming you don't have an AMD graphics card
13:09 VanessaE q66: at the time, it didn't.  and it was ATI actually :-)
13:09 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i think your computer is retarded and not GitHub
13:09 q66 yeah, it lacks the fglrx drivers
13:09 wei2912 NekoGloop, go to Downloads
13:09 wei2912 there you go
13:09 q66 it also lacks CUDA/OpenCL which is quite a shame
13:09 NekoGloop this should be called #come_and_we_will_piss_on_your_os_choice, not #minetest
13:09 wei2912 NekoGloop, okay
13:09 wei2912 stop saying you use windows
13:10 wei2912 because loads of people using linux are against that
13:10 wei2912 and i think there will be no arguments ;)
13:10 * q66 is running OS X right now
13:10 PilzAdam NekoGloop, nope; #we_dont_like_windows
13:10 * q66 ducks
13:10 Basstard` VanessaE: Just to end it. GNU is the system. You can use Linux, kFreeBSD, HURD, whatever kernel that works, and the system is still GNU. So calling it Linux when Linux is not even present it wrong and misleading.
13:10 VanessaE NekoGloop: no one's pissing on your OS choice - don't mention you use windows in a context where only linux is appropriate, or bitch about windows when it breaks (and you do that a lot to be honest)
13:10 NekoGloop windows hasnt broken
13:10 q66 Basstard`, dude
13:10 VanessaE Basstard`: I already know this!  I'm using this wonderful thing called "shorthand"
13:10 q66 when someone says "linux"
13:10 q66 everybody knows what they're talking about
13:10 q66 stop being a pedant
13:10 VanessaE shorthand
13:10 VanessaE shorthand
13:10 VanessaE shorthand
13:10 VanessaE shorthand
13:10 VanessaE okay??
13:10 wei2912 Basstard`, q66, VanessaE USE #linux_or_gnu_linux
13:11 q66 stfu
13:11 NekoGloop tell me, is this: https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/zipball/master working currently?
13:11 wei2912 NekoGloop, enlightenment
13:11 wei2912 https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/
13:12 NekoGloop hey guess what
13:12 NekoGloop that's the zip download link
13:12 NekoGloop using this thing called "copy shortcut"
13:12 wei2912 there are many other ways you could download it
13:12 NekoGloop like what
13:13 wei2912 i am a very nice guy
13:13 NekoGloop the retarded ".git" file type?
13:13 wei2912 so i shall refer you to links
13:13 wei2912 http://git-scm.com/
13:13 wei2912 Git is a free and open source distributed version control system designed to handle everything from small to very large projects with speed and efficiency.
13:13 wei2912 Git is easy to learn and has a tiny footprint with lightning fast performance. It outclasses SCM tools like Subversion, CVS, Perforce, and ClearCase with features like cheap local branching, convenient staging areas, and multiple workflows.
13:13 q66 git rox
13:13 wei2912 NekoGloop, .git -> not what we care about
13:13 wei2912 our main intent now is to let you download the repository
13:14 NekoGloop https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/tarball/master yeah this isnt working either
13:14 wei2912 to say the truth
13:14 wei2912 i have never thought that zip button would work
13:14 wei2912 and as expected it doesn't
13:14 NekoGloop heh
13:14 wei2912 but
13:15 wei2912 the main purpose of github is to share code
13:15 NekoGloop it works for all other repos
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13:15 wei2912 it doesn't on many
13:15 wei2912 NekoGloop, anyway
13:15 NekoGloop i've tried all the possible download links
13:15 wei2912 either get smartgit
13:15 wei2912 get git
13:15 _2cool4me4_ morning all
13:15 wei2912 or browse through the commits and edit the code.
13:16 wei2912 NekoGloop, shouldn't be too hard: https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/commits/master
13:16 wei2912 only 3 commits
13:16 wei2912 and you get to copy and paste
13:16 wei2912 in fact you don't even need to do that
13:16 NekoGloop copy & paste = one line of code
13:16 NekoGloop one GIANT line of code
13:16 wei2912 my gosh
13:16 VanessaE there.
13:16 wei2912 the newline character
13:16 VanessaE had to deal with an unruly cat.
13:17 NekoGloop the newline character refuses to copy
13:17 wei2912 NekoGloop, https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/blob/master/depends.txt
13:17 wei2912 https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/blob/master/textures/jungletree_bark.png
13:17 wei2912 right click, save image as
13:17 wei2912 https://github.com/bas080/jungletree/blob/master/textures/jungletree_sapling.png
13:17 wei2912 same thing
13:17 wei2912 that's all you need
13:17 wei2912 the simplest way :)
13:17 NekoGloop ..
13:17 NekoGloop ok
13:17 NekoGloop one minute
13:18 wei2912 VanessaE, takes so long....
13:18 VanessaE wei2912: sowwy
13:18 VanessaE wei2912: you on the last command now?
13:18 VanessaE (the //dig command)
13:18 wei2912 no
13:18 wei2912 kept on pausing the game
13:18 wei2912 lol
13:19 VanessaE heh
13:19 VanessaE what command is running now?
13:19 wei2912 2nd
13:19 VanessaE the //set stone one?
13:20 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/FSJb46f6 this is what i get when i paste init.lua into another lua file with notepad++
13:21 PilzAdam nice code stucture!
13:21 NekoGloop heh
13:21 wei2912 NekoGloop, that works
13:21 wei2912 even though it's horrible
13:21 NekoGloop no it doesnt
13:21 wei2912 it should
13:21 NekoGloop ok let me try again
13:21 q66 PilzAdam, Lua is the new Perl
13:21 wei2912 Perl 5 is a highly capable, feature-rich programming language
13:22 wei2912 Lua is a powerful, fast, lightweight, embeddable scripting language.
13:22 wei2912 different goals lol
13:22 q66 i was just poking at the code structure :P
13:22 q66 because you know what you can do with perl
13:22 q66 http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=45213
13:23 wei2912 q66: lol
13:23 wei2912 that works?!
13:23 q66 yep
13:23 wei2912 lol
13:23 wei2912 The stupid question is the question not asked
13:23 q66 it prints 4 camels
13:23 q66 mirrored
13:24 wei2912 camel code prints out 4 camels?
13:24 q66 yep
13:24 wei2912 mindscrew
13:24 q66 it'd be better if it was a quine that prints out itself 4 times
13:24 q66 self-replicating code :P
13:24 wei2912 trees are fun
13:25 wei2912 you get to make floating ones
13:25 q66 give it an AI and you have a living organism in a computer.
13:25 wei2912 ...
13:25 NekoGloop unsurprisingly, failed to load mod "jungletree"
13:25 wei2912 lol
13:25 wei2912 did you follow the structure>
13:25 wei2912 error?
13:26 NekoGloop 'end' expected (to close 'for' at line 1) near '<eof>'
13:26 wei2912 LOL
13:26 NekoGloop yes i know what <eof> represents
13:26 VanessaE did you give jungletree the correct foldername>
13:26 VanessaE ?
13:26 wei2912 end of file
13:26 q66 apparently some of your blocks is not closed :p
13:26 q66 simple as that
13:27 NekoGloop yes i gave jungletree "jungletree" as its folder name
13:27 NekoGloop q66: its not my code
13:28 wei2912 okay
13:28 wei2912 VanessaE, checked
13:28 wei2912 3rd part left
13:28 VanessaE ok
13:30 VanessaE wei2912: so much for it just being "a few minutes" :D
13:30 wei2912 VanessaE, holy crap
13:30 wei2912 it's working :D
13:30 wei2912 btw a few minutes part is fake
13:31 VanessaE I TOLD you it would work :-)
13:31 NekoGloop lol
13:31 NekoGloop another mod is being stupid now
13:31 NekoGloop one sec
13:31 wei2912 VanessaE, only one section
13:32 wei2912 is flat land
13:32 wei2912 and there's a huge obstacle blocking
13:32 VanessaE obstacle?
13:32 wei2912 lol
13:32 wei2912 jk
13:32 wei2912 haven't finished
13:32 VanessaE sigh. use the flatland mod..
13:32 wei2912 VanessaE, no
13:32 NekoGloop hm
13:32 VanessaE I wish c55 would add something to the API so a mod could force the map to be generated in a place
13:32 wei2912 it's buggy
13:32 wei2912 extremely buggy
13:32 NekoGloop well
13:33 wei2912 VanessaE, i wish we had choices
13:33 VanessaE then worldedit wouldn't leave holes.
13:33 NekoGloop lets mod this code
13:33 wei2912 like a checklist
13:33 NekoGloop so normal jungletrees are used :)
13:33 VanessaE NekoGloop: I think bas080 is already going to do that
13:33 NekoGloop well he hasnt done it yet
13:34 VanessaE 1x1's and 2x2's with real jungletrees, and 1x1 with this not-quite-jungletree node he uses now
13:34 NekoGloop heh
13:34 NekoGloop well I'm just gonna mod what he has now
13:34 youbi So bad. Doors can’t be combined by 2
13:34 wei2912 lol
13:34 VanessaE youbi: doors2.
13:34 NekoGloop youbi: xdoors2
13:34 youbi ?
13:34 youbi A mod ?
13:35 NekoGloop yes
13:35 NekoGloop get the xdoors2 nod
13:35 NekoGloop mod*
13:35 youbi …
13:35 youbi Why isn’t this added to normal game…
13:35 NekoGloop because you need practice in downloading
13:36 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2757
13:36 wei2912 VanessaE, didn't do it properly
13:36 wei2912 again
13:36 VanessaE figures.
13:36 VanessaE probably because the map wasn't loaded.
13:37 VanessaE you're gonna have to do this with the map generator e.g. flatland or some variant of it
13:37 VanessaE or better, the skyblock mod
13:37 VanessaE since it disables the map generator entirely.
13:38 wei2912 lol
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13:40 wei2912 VanessaE, yup didn't work
13:41 VanessaE damn
13:41 VanessaE well you have a partial desert anyway :D
13:42 NekoGloop i have an idea
13:42 NekoGloop beg for an update to desert mod
13:42 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
13:43 wei2912 VanessaE, only... 100?
13:43 VanessaE ?
13:43 VanessaE I wrote 1000 in all cases?
13:43 VanessaE so you should have gotten 4 square km of desert
13:44 wei2912 lol
13:44 wei2912 VanessaE, know any flatland world?
13:44 VanessaE nope
13:44 VanessaE I use worldedit to create flat lands.
13:45 VanessaE and only for creating testing worlds e.g. those pics of mesecons
13:45 wei2912 VanessaE, why not make a world in your computer
13:45 _2cool4me4_ It takes a while, but it's worth it
13:45 wei2912 then send me it?
13:45 NekoGloop PilzAdam: I see a typo in tnt debug :)
13:45 VanessaE wei2912: because if I did, it would be several GB in size :-)
13:45 VanessaE this has to be done at the mapgen level to keep- the size under control
13:46 VanessaE --
13:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop, 1st.: this is already removed; 2nd.: who cares, this is just debug info for me
13:46 NekoGloop heh
13:46 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
13:46 NekoGloop in github ver. its not removed :)
13:46 wei2912 i need to fork the code? damn
13:46 NekoGloop i still get them in the cmd window
13:47 wei2912 any mapgen.cpp for flatland?
13:47 wei2912 damnit
13:47 wei2912 i'll fork flatlands
13:49 PilzAdam NekoGloop, updated
13:49 NekoGloop cool :P
13:53 NekoGloop need flat land? tnt \:D/
13:53 NekoGloop why the heck is there a dirt in this tree >.>
13:54 wei2912 tnt????
13:54 NekoGloop tnt
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13:54 NekoGloop as in pilz's tnt mod
13:56 wei2912 VanessaE, have you tried flatlands?
13:56 VanessaE nope
13:58 iqualfragile when installing animals_modpack my server has great problems
13:58 VanessaE most people do
13:58 VanessaE sapier knows it has CPu problems
13:58 iqualfragile its using 100 percent
13:58 NekoGloop ?
13:58 VanessaE it's some bug in the game that the mod is triggering I guess
13:58 NekoGloop using latest ver.?
13:58 wei2912 VanessaE, what's minp.x?
13:58 iqualfragile and spamms the console with 15:55:55: ERROR[ServerThread]: ANIMALS: function animals_spawn_in_shadows took too long: 1
13:58 VanessaE wei2912: eh?
13:59 wei2912 VanessaE, lol
14:00 NekoGloop so for github...
14:00 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40122#p40122
14:00 VanessaE sapier posted this today
14:00 NekoGloop can i just upload a .zip or do i have to compile into .git
14:00 wei2912 VanessaE, where's the lua api?
14:00 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
14:00 VanessaE wei2912: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
14:00 PilzAdam first :-p
14:01 VanessaE NekoGloop: github is for source code, so don't upload zips.  upload the files.
14:01 wei2912 thanks VanessaE PilzAdam
14:01 NekoGloop ...
14:01 NekoGloop i have no idea
14:01 NekoGloop i think you misunderstood my question
14:01 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you have a folder on your computer
14:01 PilzAdam there you use git init
14:01 NekoGloop wtf is git init
14:01 PilzAdam and than you can push files to a repo with git push
14:02 NekoGloop ...
14:02 NekoGloop so...
14:02 PilzAdam so you upload directly the files of your working directory
14:02 NekoGloop stick with sendshare, sotcha
14:02 VanessaE PilzAdam: he uses windows.  so he's fucked :-)
14:02 NekoGloop gotcha*
14:02 PilzAdam on linux its very easy
14:02 PilzAdam btw ive updated the README of TNT mod
14:02 VanessaE yup.  git add .; git commit -a; git push
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14:02 NekoGloop ...
14:03 NekoGloop ...
14:03 VanessaE couldn't be easier
14:03 wei2912 lol
14:03 NekoGloop you know, if you all refuse to help, there's no need for me to be here
14:03 VanessaE NekoGloop: how can we help with an OS we don't use?
14:03 wei2912 NekoGloop, get git first
14:04 VanessaE most folks here use linux or some other unix-like OS.
14:04 PilzAdam i still need a good inventory texture for my gunpowder (i am unable to draw a good barrel with gimp :-( )
14:04 VanessaE PilzAdam: couldn't use the one I suggested?
14:04 PilzAdam i dont want to download the whole pack
14:04 NekoGloop #minetest: home to the most retarded assholes this side of the moon
14:04 * PilzAdam is at the other side
14:04 VanessaE NekoGloop: come on it isn't that bad.  we just don't do windows, that's all
14:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: gimme a few minutes and I'll render one for you
14:05 PilzAdam thx
14:05 PilzAdam NekoGloop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmObPpBm_l0
14:05 NekoGloop all i hear all day long is "linux does this better", "windows is shit", "fuck you i use linux", "windows has too many problems", "windows has BSOD, so its inferior", "you are an idiot for using windows"
14:06 NekoGloop if you have something against me, just say it
14:06 PilzAdam you are not a idiot NekoGloop, but nobody else here uses windows, so we cant help you
14:06 VanessaE come on, that's not true and you know it.
14:07 NekoGloop if it werent true, then why does this chat make me want to kill myself?
14:07 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwYKX9H8UcI
14:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: because you take everything so personally
14:09 VanessaE don't do that. :-)
14:09 NekoGloop you make it personal
14:09 NekoGloop by directly insulting me
14:09 VanessaE :(
14:09 wei2912 NekoGloop, don't do that
14:09 PilzAdam NekoGloop, all we want to tell you that linux is better than windows for what we are doing here
14:09 wei2912 life is precious
14:10 PilzAdam that is nothing against your person
14:10 wei2912 can someone help me check if this code is valid?
14:10 PilzAdam wei2912, give me the code
14:10 wei2912 wait a moment
14:10 wei2912 think i found the error
14:11 PilzAdam NekoGloop, btw: this video shows how to set up git https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwYKX9H8UcI
14:11 PilzAdam on windows
14:11 VanessaE PilzAdam: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/gunpowder-barrel.png
14:11 VanessaE scale that down to size as needed of course.
14:11 wei2912 PilzAdam, http://pastebin.com/p1e0QL15
14:11 wei2912 i modded some of the original code
14:11 VanessaE you might want to apply a fisheye effect over it to get it to look like a typical bulging barrel
14:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: no one here means to insult you :)
14:12 NekoGloop yes you do
14:12 PilzAdam wei2912, use this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
14:12 NekoGloop you all do
14:13 PilzAdam wei2912, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L817
14:13 PilzAdam NekoGloop, im not
14:13 VanessaE I don't
14:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: will that image work for you?
14:13 PilzAdam let me try...
14:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: like I said, scale it down as needed, and perhaps do a fisheye effect over it if you want the barrel to halve bulged sides.
14:15 wei2912 PilzAdam, ?
14:15 wei2912 NekoGloop, anyway ignore all that
14:15 wei2912 let's get to the main point
14:15 wei2912 <PilzAdam> NekoGloop, btw: this video shows how to set up git https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwYKX9H8UcI on windows
14:16 wei2912 PilzAdam, is it fine?
14:16 PilzAdam idk
14:17 wei2912 oh
14:17 wei2912 i get it
14:17 wei2912 that code wasn't mine :P
14:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, its realy ugly if i donwscale it :-(
14:17 wei2912 i don't feel like editing it
14:17 NekoGloop hm...
14:18 PilzAdam i recommend to use register_chatmessage
14:18 wei2912 i don't know how to use it
14:18 NekoGloop bas080's jungletree mod should have a moreblocks dependancy, so the branches are horizontal
14:18 VanessaE PilzAdam:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/gunpowder-barrel-64px.png
14:18 VanessaE that's the size most appropriate for the inventory display
14:19 VanessaE and it's been flattened against #808080 so the edges will blend properly with the inventory background spaces.
14:19 VanessaE semi-flattened that is
14:19 PilzAdam VanessaE, i would prefer 16x16 textures
14:19 PilzAdam and my exerience was that downscaling HD pictures always looks ugly
14:20 * VanessaE shrugs
14:20 VanessaE the game always upscales to close to 64px for display in the inventory
14:20 NekoGloop mod the bucket graphic
14:20 VanessaE so using a 16px texture is ..er..underkill? ;-)
14:20 PilzAdam i should fit in the default theme
14:20 VanessaE eh, I tried.
14:20 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i will try
14:21 VanessaE maybe I'll use it in my texture pack ;-)_
14:23 NekoGloop now my local jungletree mod uses default jungletree for the trunk, and horizontal jungletree for the branches
14:23 NekoGloop not that anyone cares
14:24 PilzAdam it would be great if they would be reintegrated in the default game
14:24 NekoGloop let me get the horizontal one's facedir to work right
14:24 iqualfragile there is so much to be integrated into the default game
14:25 iqualfragile hi pilz
14:25 PilzAdam hi
14:25 NekoGloop nvm on the horizontal jungletree
14:26 wei2912 cornernote: can you repost that pastebin.com code?
14:26 wei2912 lost it :(
14:26 wei2912 didn't get a chance to try it
14:34 NekoGloop climbable doesnt work for solid nodes
14:34 PilzAdam climbabel only works in a node so if you cant enter the node you cant climb
14:35 NekoGloop heh
14:35 * VanessaE pets NekoGloop
14:35 NekoGloop well so much for climbable jungletree
14:35 * NekoGloop bites vanessae's hand
14:35 VanessaE D:
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14:38 celeron55 for the previous GNU discussion, let me find this...
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14:38 PilzAdam Hi celeron55
14:38 celeron55 http://i.imgur.com/INEiq.jpg
14:39 NekoGloop oh... hello there.
14:39 Calinou hi
14:39 celeron55 not really related, but anyway, it has the same word!
14:39 celeron55 which makes it 100% relevant
14:39 celeron55 also, ">Why isn't this added to normal game..." "because you need practice in downloading" <- i am going to use this explanation for now on
14:39 Calinou lmao celeron55
14:39 celeron55 because it is full of win
14:39 NekoGloop oh cool, something i said is gonna be one of celeron's sayings
14:40 celeron55 (and 5% truthful)
14:40 PilzAdam I always use WTFPL :-(
14:40 Calinou same
14:40 Calinou and I'm not drunk :p
14:41 NekoGloop do you mean someone here is drunk?
14:41 Calinou no
14:42 Topic for #minetest is now Please be patient when asking questions; someone may not be around. | Main website: http://minetest.net | Development channel: #minetest-delta | Wiki Channel: #minetest-wiki
14:42 Calinou rubenwardy was SLAPPED for misspelling "channel".
14:42 celeron55 "first of all, it's not minetest, it's minetest_game/minetest-c55" :D
14:42 Calinou it's celeron55/minetest/minetest-c55/bdf123c8
14:43 celeron55 that isn't the same way of saying things
14:43 NekoGloop no, its minetest. *killed*
14:43 VanessaE celeron55: heh
14:45 PilzAdam celeron55, you noticed the wikipedia article about minetest?
14:45 VanessaE I tried to point it out to him.  :-)
14:45 celeron55 i guess they're not going to delete it this time
14:45 NekoGloop nice to see that the dev of this game at least -acts- human, unlike others.
14:46 * Calinou has experience in edit wars
14:46 * PilzAdam is not a human
14:46 VanessaE celeron55: after must argument with wiki admins, all they want to make it stay now is lots of sources that don't point to minetest.net somewhere.
14:46 VanessaE s/must/much/
14:46 celeron55 tbh, i am generally more like a robot than a human
14:47 Calinou VanessaE, you talked to a wiki admin? :o
14:47 PilzAdam btw i can programm faster than your timelapse
14:47 NekoGloop well at least you arent an asshole
14:47 VanessaE Calinou: briefly yeah
14:47 Calinou my computer clock can commit to future using git
14:47 * Calinou commits "random fix" in two days
14:47 Calinou politic guys must have their clocks offset.
14:47 celeron55 NekoGloop: some call me that too at times
14:48 Calinou VanessaE, seriously, they're being "selective assholes" (I call them like this)
14:48 Calinou there are fucktons of other articles with few sources, yet the article has no warning
14:48 PilzAdam celeron55, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/30
14:48 PilzAdam i made a tnt mod
14:48 NekoGloop but instead of mingling with the crowd for the sole purpose of banning, you, celeron, rarely mingle (which imo is better)
14:48 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
14:49 celeron55 NekoGloop: well, i outsource that thing to other people :-D
14:50 NekoGloop i'm making a jungletree-based house
14:51 VanessaE bahahah tried to create a high-speed clock - overheated a µC in half a second :-)
14:51 NekoGloop if anyone wants to have it when i'm done, just say so and I'll make a WE file
14:51 PilzAdam did that too
14:51 NekoGloop but you see mine is gonna be totally legit, not /giveme
14:52 NekoGloop dont you just hate it when facedir is being stupid
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14:53 VanessaE there.
14:53 VanessaE ~3Hz clock with three delayers and a muC
14:53 VanessaE µC
14:54 NekoGloop if you spread the use across multiple microcontrollers they wont overheat
14:54 NekoGloop in theory
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14:55 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1927343306.png
14:56 VanessaE press the button once to start the clock, it's self-sustaining after that
14:56 VanessaE the µC only has one small code to make it into an XOR gate, sbi(B, A~C)
14:56 VanessaE the closest and farthest delayers are at minimum delay, the middle one is one step up from minimum
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14:57 _2cool4me4_ well, my adder from last night is hopelessly broken
14:57 VanessaE I should run that though a clock multipler, see if I can get 12+ Hz out of it
14:59 VanessaE HAHA it musta been over 30, the µC overheated again
14:59 _2cool4me4_ OVER 900000
14:59 NekoGloop now wire it to a 7 seg display
14:59 _2cool4me4_ er, 9000
15:01 * VanessaE resets it and turns the delayer up a bit :D
15:02 _2cool4me4_ okay. this may be a large description.
15:02 _2cool4me4_ On Microcontroller A (half-adder A), A and B are inputs, C is sum, D is carry
15:02 NekoGloop well this jungletree-based house is coming nicely
15:03 _2cool4me4_ oh, they're both the same
15:03 _2cool4me4_ my bad
15:03 VanessaE there, get rid of one delayer, adjust the delays a bit, and I've got a reliable clock
15:04 NekoGloop cool
15:04 NekoGloop and i am loving this jungletree mod :)
15:04 NekoGloop well now that it uses the normal jungletrees that is ;)
15:04 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1927880722.png
15:05 VanessaE oops, change the code in the µC to sbi(B, C~D)
15:05 _2cool4me4_ I've made something like that, only it was a minecraft-style circular clock, with one output wire
15:07 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM :3
15:07 _2cool4me4_ Wow, I am a huge screw-up when it comes to adders
15:07 VanessaE bahahaha crashed the server that time
15:08 VanessaE celeron55: you might want to try that ^^ with the delayers set to smaller values :D
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15:13 VanessaE there, got it up to close to 10 Hz
15:14 NekoGloop hm...
15:14 VanessaE seems to be holding, if a bit erratic-looking
15:14 NekoGloop we need jungle wood doors
15:14 VanessaE hoo, takes a bit of CPU to run a clock this fast
15:16 _2cool4me4_ what's your clock
15:16 _2cool4me4_ oh, 10 hz
15:16 _2cool4me4_ meneeds to read more
15:17 VanessaE looks like it was upwards of 25-30, the delayer *just* overheated again
15:17 NekoGloop any ideas for my jungletree house?
15:17 VanessaE er the µC overheated
15:17 _2cool4me4_ moar delayers?
15:17 NekoGloop microcontroller, not delayer, vanessae :3
15:17 VanessaE NekoGloop: not really no
15:17 NekoGloop trying to only use moreblocks
15:18 VanessaE I have a particular style I build in, so jungle trees don't really figure into ot, so I dunno
15:18 VanessaE besides, I'm still nursing a bitten hand so bad kitty :(
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15:18 * NekoGloop smiles
15:19 VanessaE HAHA crashed the server when the µC overheated
15:19 NekoGloop blood tasted good :3
15:19 _2cool4me4_ I'm going to post my new design "stackable" adder in a few minutes
15:19 _2cool4me4_ no comments?
15:20 VanessaE how can we comment on what we haven't seen yet? :-)
15:20 _2cool4me4_ lol
15:20 _2cool4me4_ 105 kb file *smiles to self*
15:21 NekoGloop thats really low
15:21 _2cool4me4_ Tinypic is my new best friend
15:21 NekoGloop i have a mod larger than that... oh wait that's mesecons, it doesnt count :)
15:21 PilzAdam any new feature suggestions for my TNT mod?
15:21 _2cool4me4_ Neko: it's in 8 bit color with a dithering level of zilch
15:21 NekoGloop Pilzadam: levels of tnt
15:22 NekoGloop nuke mod doesnt use your system
15:22 PilzAdam NekoGloop, as i said: there is the nuke mod for that
15:22 _2cool4me4_ well, here it is!
15:22 _2cool4me4_ http://tinypic.com/r/rm79xz/6
15:22 NekoGloop pilzadam: i want levels of tnt in your style
15:22 PilzAdam my system would be overpowered with it
15:22 PilzAdam and laggy
15:23 NekoGloop heh
15:23 _2cool4me4_ lol, icechat helps me not spam anymore by making me wait 5 seconds before posting a new message
15:24 _2cool4me4_ Comments now?
15:24 VanessaE yay, add a bunch of T-flops and I have a 4-bit counter
15:25 * _2cool4me4_ has no idea what that meant
15:25 _2cool4me4_ and doesn't care, really
15:25 _2cool4me4_ :)
15:25 VanessaE haha
15:26 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: so what is this you made?
15:26 _2cool4me4_ Maybe I should have thought this through better, now the sum output is on the wrong side of the stack :/
15:26 VanessaE an adder I guess
15:26 _2cool4me4_ This is a stackable bit adder
15:26 VanessaE not bad
15:26 _2cool4me4_ but the sum is on the wrong end
15:27 VanessaE you'll figure it out :-)
15:27 _2cool4me4_ Yep
15:28 _2cool4me4_ I dug deep... literally
15:28 Calinou she said
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15:30 _2cool4me4_ all mesecons needs is insulated corner mesecons
15:31 iqualfragile and blockdetectors
15:31 _2cool4me4_ I don't see why
15:31 _2cool4me4_ what are your reasons?
15:32 _2cool4me4_ Huh, punk?
15:32 _2cool4me4_ :P
15:32 NekoGloop no mesecons needs vertical
15:32 _2cool4me4_ That too
15:32 NekoGloop inb4 already updated
15:32 _2cool4me4_ But it's already possible
15:33 NekoGloop well you can adapt the minecraft way of a signal going vertical; a tower of mesecon torches
15:33 _2cool4me4_ that would work, but if you look at my stack...
15:39 VanessaE what I do for now is stack up a 1xYYx2 stack of mesecons wires
15:39 * NekoGloop pokes #minetest for signs of like
15:39 NekoGloop life*
15:39 VanessaE (for however high YY needs to go)
15:39 NekoGloop oh sure ninja me why dont you
15:42 _2cool4me4_ This still isn't working right
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15:43 NekoGloop _2cool4me4_: did you try giving it a cookie?
15:44 * _2cool4me4_ kicks adder
15:44 _2cool4me4_ no
15:44 NekoGloop try giving it a cookie the
15:44 NekoGloop then*
15:44 _2cool4me4_ no
15:45 _2cool4me4_ PING
15:45 NekoGloop OMG I FOUND A RUBBER TREE
15:45 NekoGloop and why did you ping me lol
15:45 _2cool4me4_ because I can
15:46 NekoGloop BLASPHEMY!
15:46 _2cool4me4_ bye calinou
15:46 _2cool4me4_ MADNESS
15:46 NekoGloop No
15:47 NekoGloop THIS
15:47 NekoGloop IS
15:47 _2cool4me4_ SPARTA
15:47 NekoGloop SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
15:47 * NekoGloop kicks 2cool
15:47 _2cool4me4_ bam ninja'd
15:48 NekoGloop no wait
15:48 NekoGloop THIS
15:48 NekoGloop IS
15:48 NekoGloop PATRICK!
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15:50 * NickHere_ kicks freenode
15:50 * NekoGloop kicks 2cool
15:50 _2cool_ socket error, my old nick will be disconnected shortly
15:51 NekoGloop dammit i lost my house
15:51 _2cool_ lava?
15:51 NekoGloop no
15:51 NekoGloop lost it
15:51 _2cool_ oh
15:51 NekoGloop meaning i cant find it
15:51 _2cool_ 'cause I would have used lava
15:51 NekoGloop heh
15:51 NekoGloop well when its done you can use WE to get this awesome house of awesomeness
15:53 _2cool_ Welp, killed that adder
15:54 NekoGloop heh
15:54 _2cool_ What am I doing wrong?
15:54 _2cool4me4_ there
15:54 _2cool4me4_ can you diagnose adder circuits?
15:54 NekoGloop you are trying to make an adder, that's the first thing you did wrong
15:55 NekoGloop :D
15:55 _2cool4me4_ but I wanna make mesecons computer :(
15:56 NekoGloop heh
15:56 NekoGloop we all do
15:56 _2cool4me4_ Can't do that if I keep screwing up this adder
15:56 _2cool4me4_ I'm even reading the book
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15:57 NekoGloop what book
15:57 _2cool4me4_ The Elements of Computing Systems
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16:00 _2cool4me4_ all these mesecons have effectively decreased my fps to 20
16:00 rubenwardy lol
16:00 _2cool4me4_ nvm
16:04 NekoGloop jungletree house is almost done
16:05 _2cool4me4_ Adder attempt 3 is almost done
16:05 NekoGloop you (may) die from the pure awesomeness of the jungletree house
16:06 NekoGloop hm...
16:06 NekoGloop WE saves facedir correctly, right?
16:06 VanessaE yes I think spo
16:06 VanessaE so
16:06 NekoGloop ok
16:07 NekoGloop one minute...
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16:10 NekoGloop er...
16:10 NekoGloop where are saved WE files stored?
16:11 NekoGloop nvm found it
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16:11 _2cool4me4_ beats me, worldedit hurts me
16:12 NekoGloop http://www.sendspace.com/file/6oz62l there ya go, jungletree house
16:13 _2cool4me4_ Y U NO mediafire?
16:13 NekoGloop because mediafire sucks?
16:13 _2cool4me4_ no
16:13 _2cool4me4_ untrue
16:13 thexyz http://ompldr.org/
16:13 NekoGloop ... VanessaE: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6oz62l
16:13 PilzAdam thexyz, +1
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16:15 NekoGloop (jungletree needs moreblocks to funtion right)
16:16 NekoGloop jungletree house*
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16:20 celeron55 http://ompldr.org/donate.html <- apparently ompldr isn't doing very well
16:20 Calinou since forever actually :p
16:20 celeron55 since 2010 and before
16:20 Calinou yeah
16:21 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kppBxSggsIA&amp;feature=related + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JGaQ3g8WU4 playing simultaneously is a mindfuck
16:22 * PilzAdam wont do it
16:22 NekoGloop good 4 u
16:23 celeron55 listening even one of those is beyond mindfuck
16:24 NekoGloop heh
16:24 celeron55 in a bad way
16:24 NekoGloop one is japanese one is the song backwards
16:26 NekoGloop anyways, back to the mod-overload of my world
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16:34 mika__ hi
16:34 PilzAdam hi
16:41 _2cool4me4_ I see what has been missing
16:41 _2cool4me4_ from these adders
16:41 _2cool4me4_ If all inputs are on, the output must also be on
16:41 NekoGloop a brain?
16:41 * _2cool4me4_ kicks neko
16:41 _2cool4me4_ bad neko
16:41 _2cool4me4_ now sit in the corner and think about what you have done
16:42 * NekoGloop hisses
16:42 NekoGloop no
16:42 * _2cool4me4_ gets out vacuum cleaner
16:42 PilzAdam ....
16:43 _2cool4me4_ VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
16:43 * NekoGloop bites 2cool
16:43 * _2cool4me4_ uses immunity potionb
16:43 _2cool4me4_ immunity potion B!
16:44 _2cool4me4_ The b stands for better
16:44 NekoGloop BS
16:44 * NekoGloop flees
16:44 * _2cool4me4_ gets 50000000000 xp
16:44 _2cool4me4_ Many levels up!
16:45 NekoGloop heh
16:45 NekoGloop you dont get xp if the enemy flees ;)
16:45 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1933906133.png
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16:45 _2cool4me4_ this is not pokemon
16:45 NekoGloop in any rpg
16:45 VanessaE there.  5Hz stable clock using one µC to generate it and a switch to turn the clock signal on/off.
16:46 VanessaE (it can go faster by changing the values in the after() commands, at the expense of more CPU load)
16:50 _2cool4me4_ yes
16:50 _2cool4me4_ I have figured out the way to make a full adder
16:51 _2cool4me4_ the sbi code wasn't working right
16:53 _2cool4me4_ and still isn't
16:53 _2cool4me4_ :(
16:53 NekoGloop heh
16:53 VanessaE sbi(sum, in1~in2)sbi(carry, in1&in2)
16:53 VanessaE choose which ports you want in1, in2, carry, and sum to be on
16:54 VanessaE use the same code for both
16:55 VanessaE feed the sum from the first into in1 of the second.  feed carry IN to in2 of the second.  connect the two carry's mentioned above together and call that "carry out", connect the sum on the second µC to a lightstone or something
16:56 VanessaE then to stack them, just make sure "carry out" from one gets fed to the carry input on the next one, and each copy of the full adder gets two unique in1/in2 switches
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16:57 khonkhortisan sbi(A,!(C|D)) doesn't work
16:58 khonkhortisan have to truth table it out
16:59 NekoGloop sbi(A,!C|!D)
16:59 NekoGloop that works ^
16:59 VanessaE nonono
16:59 VanessaE use ~ for NOR
16:59 VanessaE C~D
16:59 VanessaE er for XOR. :-)
17:00 VanessaE half-adders don't use NOR, they use XOR and AND.
17:00 NekoGloop well i was showing him the equivalent of what he was trying
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17:01 khonkhortisan I prereleased a mesecons machine
17:03 NekoGloop can someone point me to a good midi file maker?
17:03 _2cool4me4_ Well, that didn't work rignt
17:04 khonkhortisan rosegarden? hydrogen?
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17:06 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what machine?:
17:07 khonkhortisan partially-working tic-tac-toe
17:07 khonkhortisan know how to suck a direct image link out of flickr?
17:07 NekoGloop windows midi file maker* ;)
17:08 khonkhortisan audacity works on windows but I don't know if that even does midi
17:08 NekoGloop no it doesnt
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17:12 _2cool4me4_ Half adder connected to adder: nope
17:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I edited your forum post to fix the image link
17:14 khonkhortisan I was trying to do the same thing, and found the ones that ended in -m and -z
17:14 NekoGloop hrmmmm...
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17:16 VanessaE yay!
17:16 VanessaE copy&paste from game -> OS works in linux now
17:16 _2cool4me4_ moar neko?
17:16 VanessaE at least for µC's
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17:17 NekoGloop VanessaE: it always worked in windows :)
17:17 NekoGloop _2cool4me4_: that's the older neko
17:17 _2cool4me4_ I have something wired wrong
17:18 _2cool4me4_ I know it
17:18 khonkhortisan are those asterisks in your µc code?
17:18 VanessaE hm, works with signs too
17:18 _2cool4me4_ does someone want to try the map file?
17:18 VanessaE when did this change?
17:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: in mine?
17:18 khonkhortisan yes
17:18 VanessaE no asterisks that I can see
17:18 VanessaE if(C&D)after(0.2, "off(B)"); if(D&!C)after(0.2, "on(B)");
17:19 khonkhortisan what do quotes do?
17:19 _2cool4me4_ Can someone try this map file to see what I did wrong?
17:19 VanessaE celeron55: when did copy&paste Game <-> Linux  get fixed?
17:19 _2cool4me4_ There's nothing wrong that I can see
17:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's the syntax of the after command, just followed programming guide
17:19 khonkhortisan I see three conversations all at the same time, between only three people.
17:19 _2cool4me4_ lol
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17:21 khonkhortisan can't really program a running clock
17:21 VanessaE nope, just cut the signal to port D to stop the clock
17:22 VanessaE figured it should require an enable signal, so port D must be high for the clock to run.
17:22 _2cool4me4_ VanessaE: Is something wrong here? http://tinypic.com/r/16mlo4/6
17:22 khonkhortisan it's easy to add in a default for when D is low
17:22 khonkhortisan but I think I got it stuck
17:23 NekoGloop microcontroller needs to be able to detect signals above and below
17:23 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: what's the code in the µC's?
17:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: from below, maybe.  from above, no way
17:23 VanessaE (there's a chip in the way after all)
17:23 khonkhortisan I'd say the other way around, from above
17:24 khonkhortisan if it was from below you'd have an upside-down board with wires coming out of it
17:24 _2cool4me4_ VanessaE: sbi(D, A~B) sbi(C, A&B)
17:25 VanessaE why are you joining the sums together on the two µC's on the right?
17:26 VanessaE if this is supposed to be a full adder, you have one too many µC's
17:26 _2cool4me4_ those are the first full adder, that's like or'ing the sums together, correct? :?
17:26 _2cool4me4_ One full adder, the one to the far left is a half adder
17:26 VanessaE ok, but you don't OR sums together.
17:26 khonkhortisan VanessaE: you don't need to check C when you're setting B
17:26 VanessaE each sum either goes to another half adder or to a light
17:29 khonkhortisan I like your clock, but it stops after server restart
17:29 VanessaE khonkhortisan: so toggle the switch off and back on :-)
17:29 khonkhortisan I'll hook it up to a blinky plant and double invert the signal
17:29 khonkhortisan or something like that
17:29 _2cool4me4_ My logisim simulation of a full adder shows a much different output than what I have
17:30 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: like I said, you're doing it wrong. :-)
17:30 celeron55 VanessaE: no idea, ask irrlicht
17:30 VanessaE khonkhortisan: blinkyplants aren't reliable - if the default server step has been changed, they change accordingly
17:31 khonkhortisan I can assume they will at least blink and so can depend on them to restart my clock
17:31 VanessaE celeron55: I assumed it was irrlicht's doing.  Either way it works now - checked it in the main menu and in a sign.
17:31 NekoGloop VanessaE: it still always worked in windows :)
17:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: yep I know.  the irrlicht guys did something wrong in their linux code :-)
17:32 _2cool4me4_ Tried again http://tinypic.com/r/hvysfa/6
17:32 VanessaE (previously anyway)
17:32 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: now that's more like it
17:32 _2cool4me4_ It's actually right?
17:33 VanessaE not quite
17:33 _2cool4me4_ okay, I didn't think so
17:33 VanessaE your carries are on port C; they're supposed to be OR'd together.
17:33 khonkhortisan does minetest have multi-line text boxes yet?
17:33 _2cool4me4_ Then where do they go
17:35 khonkhortisan aah! my clock is stuck alternating and I can't reprogram it!
17:35 _2cool4me4_ khonkortisan: remove a mesecon to shut er' down
17:36 VanessaE _2cool4me4_:  like this:   http://pastebin.com/jrjtcd7J
17:36 VanessaE where In1 and In2 are switches.
17:36 khonkhortisan it's not dependant on a mesecon to keep going, I had to very quickly copy the programming, then remove it
17:37 VanessaE khonkhortisan: multiline textbox?  no.  But there's thexyz's signs, which has multiple separate input lines
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17:38 VanessaE khonkhortisan: if you're using my clock, just cut the wire between C and D.
17:38 VanessaE that'll shut the clock down.
17:38 VanessaE or turn off the high signal on A
17:39 VanessaE excuse me,
17:40 _2cool4me4_ Thanks Vanessa!
17:40 VanessaE cut the wire between B and C or cut the signal going into D
17:40 VanessaE (forgot it was rotated)
17:40 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: it works now?
17:41 khonkhortisan blinkyplant at D, switch at C, output at B: if(B&D)after(0.5,"off(B)");if(!B&D&C)after(0.5,"on(B)");   if(B&!D)after(0.5,"off(B)");if(!B&!D&C)after(0.5,"on(B)");
17:41 khonkhortisan switch will be labeled "blink winning line"
17:43 _2cool4me4_ You could try my circular clock design with built-in killswitch: http://tinypic.com/r/2hg4xoy/6
17:43 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: that's one big clock :-)
17:44 _2cool4me4_ yup
17:44 _2cool4me4_ but there's a built in kill
17:45 _2cool4me4_ I'm gonna leave for a while
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17:54 khonkhortisan that looks silly seeing a mesecon go through a ttree
17:54 khonkhortisan I wonder if it'll go through water
17:56 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it's not going through it - it's a short-range wireless connection
17:56 khonkhortisan sure it is...
17:57 VanessaE seriously - knock out the intervening block :-)
17:57 khonkhortisan bluetooth!
17:57 VanessaE haha
17:57 VanessaE nonon
17:58 VanessaE RFID :D
17:58 khonkhortisan did you know a forest fire isn't bright enough to signal ships?
17:58 VanessaE er, I know now
17:58 khonkhortisan you can't see fire any further away than you can see anything else
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18:00 VanessaE except for one thing:  fire will light up the skies above it whereas some large inaminate object won't usually
18:01 mika__ depending on size of fire the smoke cloud can be huge, and the wind take it to the ship
18:04 khonkhortisan but in the game you can see fire from a distance
18:05 khonkhortisan can't*
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18:06 NekoGloop well that was an interesting DC
18:07 NekoGloop when did i ping timeout?
18:07 _2cool4me4_ Hello again
18:07 PilzAdam Hi
18:17 * NekoGloop pokes #minetest for signs of life
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18:17 NekoGloop that long ago lol
18:17 _2cool4me4_ IT'S ALIVE
18:18 NekoGloop OH NOES!!!
18:18 PilzAdam NIANCAT foound! seed=1763810008200124486; at 60, 24, 240
18:18 NekoGloop omg that's... really high up
18:19 NekoGloop but i cant input a seed to a world, unless i'm missing something
18:20 PilzAdam NekoGloop, create a world, joind it; then close minetest delete worl.sqlite and edit map_meta.txt
18:20 PilzAdam -d
18:20 NekoGloop ah i see
18:21 celeron55 there is a setting to minetest.conf too to use a certain seed for new worlds
18:21 celeron55 i can't remember the exact name
18:21 PilzAdam #fixed_map_seed =
18:22 NekoGloop i figured as such... say, could that be added to the main menu UI?
18:25 _2cool4me4_ Nyancat Created!
18:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: I suggested that a while back :-)
18:25 VanessaE (damned if I can find a reference to it now though)
18:25 NekoGloop heh
18:26 NekoGloop maybe it might be more reasonable to implement now
18:29 VanessaE my suggestion back then was that the user should be given the option to hit a "random seed" button, or increment/decrement it, or directly type one in.  Possibly with a rough preview of the map the seed would generate.
18:30 VanessaE (kinda ironic, the idea of a 'random seed' button, when the seed is in turn used to start another random number sequence)
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18:31 NekoGloop this is really annoying
18:32 Basstard` You are really annoying.
18:32 _2cool4me4_ teset your router
18:32 celeron55 in soviet russia, router resets you
18:32 VanessaE NekoGloop: [08-29 14:29] <VanessaE> my suggestion back then was that the user should be given the option to hit a "random seed" button, or increment/decrement it, or directly type one in.  Possibly with a rough preview of the map the seed would generate.
18:32 VanessaE [08-29 14:30] * NekoGloop has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
18:32 VanessaE [08-29 14:30] <VanessaE> (kinda ironic, the idea of a 'random seed' button, when the seed is in turn used to start another random number sequence)
18:32 VanessaE just to fill in what you likely missed
18:33 NekoGloop nice one celeron
18:33 NekoGloop like we havent heard that one before
18:33 _2cool4me4_ *facepalm*'
18:33 PilzAdam gtg
18:33 PilzAdam bye
18:33 celeron55 well, that is the point!
18:34 NekoGloop in soviet russia, game makes you
18:34 NekoGloop that's a much better one :)
18:34 celeron55 in game, you make soviet russia
18:34 NekoGloop that too :)
18:35 _2cool4me4_ in soviet russia, adder binaries
18:35 NekoGloop in soviet russia, overused joke makes you
18:36 NekoGloop :)
18:38 NekoGloop anyways, what're you all up to?
18:38 VanessaE nothing much
18:38 NekoGloop lol
18:42 khonkhortisan turn indicator
18:42 khonkhortisan and loser goes first
18:42 khonkhortisan and maybe a setting for who goes first
18:43 NekoGloop heh
18:43 NekoGloop cool
18:43 NekoGloop i wanna try it out first :)
18:46 khonkhortisan my machine?
18:47 khonkhortisan work-in-progress: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40157#p40157
18:48 NekoGloop cool but i wanna try the finished one :)
18:48 khonkhortisan I should have it done in no more than eight days
18:49 NekoGloop well mesecons comp is then :)
18:49 khonkhortisan that's why I have a time frame
18:53 NekoGloop well, im bored :/
18:54 khonkhortisan I can put ifs inside elses in a microcontroller, right?
18:54 khonkhortisan I'm going to make a three-way-switch.
18:54 NekoGloop no you cannot
18:54 khonkhortisan oh.
18:54 NekoGloop trust me, i tried :)
18:56 khonkhortisan how about elseifs?
18:56 NekoGloop nope
18:56 NekoGloop because "else" isnt recognized
18:56 NekoGloop you use ">" to do "else"
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18:57 NekoGloop read the .pdf :)
18:57 khonkhortisan then I'll have to store two things in memory
18:57 khonkhortisan whether the button is on, and whether I'm trying to change the switch
18:57 NekoGloop use some amount of ands
18:58 NekoGloop "&" can be stacked, like "if(A&B&C) ..."
18:58 khonkhortisan if(!A&B&!C) I've done that before
18:59 NekoGloop i did a 3-way NAND :)
19:00 NekoGloop there should be a microscript function for checking if an input can be recieved on a certain side
19:00 khonkhortisan ?
19:00 NekoGloop like if there is a wire on a side
19:00 khonkhortisan on(A) is in the microcontrtoller node, if(A) is in the neighbor node
19:01 NekoGloop nonono
19:01 khonkhortisan oh I know what you mean, that would be useful for making a three-way and that only combines two of the ways
19:01 NekoGloop if there IS a POSSIBLE input
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19:03 khonkhortisan if(A)on(1);if(!A&#1)on(2)off(1);   if(#2&B)on(C)off(B,2); if(#2&C)on(D)off(C,2); if(#2&D)on(B)off(D,2);   if(!B&!C&!D)on(B);
19:03 khonkhortisan it doesn't work
19:04 _2cool4me4_ I came in at a wierd time
19:04 khonkhortisan I think your client missed part of the conversation
19:08 khonkhortisan waah I can't use on() and off() to store memory, I have to use sbi()
19:08 _2cool4me4_ Has anyone got the newest worldedit to work?
19:09 khonkhortisan how newest? I have three commits I'm waiting for merge
19:09 _2cool4me4_ The init.lua refuses to load on any of my minetest versions
19:10 NekoGloop use blog version-- oh wait you arent on windows
19:10 _2cool4me4_ yes I am
19:11 _2cool4me4_ 0.4.2 rc1, correct?
19:11 khonkhortisan yay! I have a three-way switch made out of a button and a microcontrolle]
19:11 _2cool4me4_ nice job
19:11 khonkhortisan *ller
19:11 khonkhortisan if(A)sbi(1,1);if(!A&#1)sbi(2,1)sbi(1,0);   if(#2&B)on(C)off(B)sbi(2,0); if(#2&C)on(D)off(C)sbi(2,0); if(#2&D)on(B)off(D)sbi(2,0);   if(!B&!C&!D)on(B);
19:14 _2cool4me4_ 4 bit stackable adder, done.
19:14 khonkhortisan try that code, it's cool :)
19:14 _2cool4me4_ I'm kinda busy right now, but it might be useful...
19:15 _2cool4me4_ oh, icechat put smileys everywhere
19:15 khonkhortisan it might still copy
19:16 _2cool4me4_ Pretty cool
19:21 _2cool4me4_ I'm great at photograpy
19:21 _2cool4me4_ http://tinypic.com/r/23kx8jb/6
19:21 _2cool4me4_ comptography
19:22 khonkhortisan interesting, vertical input. What does it do?
19:22 NekoGloop fixed_map_seed = 1
19:22 NekoGloop lets see how this turns out
19:23 _2cool4me4_ It adds binary numbers...
19:24 NekoGloop hm, nothing special
19:24 _2cool4me4_ shut up neko
19:24 NekoGloop no talking about the seed
19:24 _2cool4me4_ ohhh
19:24 NekoGloop fixed_map_seed = 1
19:24 _2cool4me4_ Sowwy
19:24 NekoGloop its not anything special :P
19:25 NekoGloop now, fixed_map_seed = 666
19:25 _2cool4me4_ how 'bout 696969696969
19:25 _2cool4me4_ trololololol lololol lololollll
19:25 NekoGloop what?
19:25 _2cool4me4_ uhh, nothing
19:26 NekoGloop you know what 666 is, right? :)
19:26 _2cool4me4_ *backs away
19:26 _2cool4me4_ so, do you like my stacked binary adder
19:27 NekoGloop didnt look at it :)
19:27 NekoGloop anyway, nothing special in 666 seed either
19:27 NekoGloop bummer :l
19:28 NekoGloop now to play normally :)
19:29 _2cool4me4_ find a nyan
19:29 khonkhortisan I wouldn't know how to make a four-way switch
19:33 _2cool4me4_ That's impossible
19:34 khonkhortisan that's what they said to the guy who went around the world in eighty days
19:34 khonkhortisan it would probably look like a binary counter
19:35 VanessaE NekoGloop: does it matter if your 4-way pulser needs a "start" signal?
19:35 VanessaE because if not, I just got it working.
19:35 NekoGloop no it doesnt
19:35 khonkhortisan yes it needs to start with one of them on, that's what my three-way does
19:35 VanessaE if(A)after(1, "on(B)"); if(B)after(1, "off(B)on(C)"); if(C)after(1, "off(C)on(D)");if(D)after(1, "off(D)on(A)")
19:35 VanessaE there.
19:35 VanessaE put a brief high on A
19:35 NekoGloop actually i dont want to have a start signal at all
19:35 VanessaE then take it away and it will cycle on its own
19:36 khonkhortisan I'm not making a pulser, I have a microcontroller that switches between its three outputs when I press a button.
19:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: this is for something NekoGloop asked about the other day
19:36 NekoGloop 2 days ago to be precise
19:36 VanessaE *nod*
19:37 NekoGloop ...
19:37 NekoGloop still dont work :)
19:37 NekoGloop because a signal needs to 'update' the microcontroller
19:37 khonkhortisan turn A on
19:37 NekoGloop its a flaw in mesecons itself
19:37 khonkhortisan maybe it'll start it
19:38 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: i did
19:38 khonkhortisan no it doesn't
19:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: I have that running *right now*
19:38 VanessaE it's cycling on its own with no inputs
19:38 NekoGloop heh
19:38 NekoGloop then i guess i need to update :)
19:38 VanessaE just the µC and four wires sticking out to the sides so I can see it easier
19:38 khonkhortisan I have mine cycling, but it needs input for a setting, and to keep it working after a server restart
19:38 NekoGloop i use lightstone :)
19:38 khonkhortisan I use lightstone because lamps don't go through walls
19:39 VanessaE easy way to shut it off, put a switch underneath and turn the switch on.  it'll force all ports on, stopping the timer from running
19:39 NekoGloop its not a timer :)
19:40 khonkhortisan clock?
19:40 NekoGloop nope
19:40 NekoGloop just a nifty little thingymabob
19:40 khonkhortisan I wouldn't even try making a timer
19:41 khonkhortisan I realized I was using µcs to make a wire go through eighteen other wires when I could've just made it go over them
19:41 NekoGloop oh i know
19:42 NekoGloop vanessae: its working because the wires are updating the microcontroller
19:42 VanessaE right
19:42 khonkhortisan oh.
19:42 VanessaE so it works anyway
19:42 VanessaE now to shrink it.
19:42 NekoGloop but it needs wires to update it
19:42 khonkhortisan you need at least a plus
19:42 NekoGloop i had lightstone right next to it
19:42 NekoGloop so the microcontroller never updated
19:43 NekoGloop "A" never turns off when turned on again :)
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19:47 khonkhortisan if you store values, you might not need the wires around it if you use after
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19:47 khonkhortisan a lightblock doesn't give off power/logic so I don't think it'll read as on.
19:48 NekoGloop i made a piston circle that endlessly pushes a block around :D
19:49 khonkhortisan push the block around in a cube instead of a square
19:49 khonkhortisan there are vertical pistons
19:53 VanessaE well at least I got the circuit to work for you anyway :-)
19:53 _2cool4me4_ where DOES worldedit save?
19:53 NekoGloop 2cool: in the world
19:53 khonkhortisan I don't know WHERE it save, but I know what it DOESN'T save
19:53 _2cool4me4_ ugh
19:53 khonkhortisan *saves,
19:53 NekoGloop no
19:54 NekoGloop literatly it saves in ~/worlds/yourworld/schem
19:56 _2cool4me4_ there is no folder /schem
19:56 _2cool4me4_ anywhere
19:56 NekoGloop then /schems :)
19:56 _2cool4me4_ really
19:57 NekoGloop well then my ver. is outdated
19:57 NekoGloop go figure
19:57 _2cool4me4_ I got latest git...
19:57 khonkhortisan how do I swap two wires based on a third wire?
19:57 NekoGloop WE has a git?
19:58 khonkhortisan yep
19:58 _2cool4me4_ Yeah
19:58 khonkhortisan github
20:01 khonkhortisan my circuit is becoming less linear
20:02 NekoGloop cool
20:05 NekoGloop i dont even know where half of my little mesecons machines are anymore
20:05 _2cool4me4_ I have tried to copy this stupid circuit about 5 times now, it's not gonna work
20:06 khonkhortisan which one are you doing again?
20:06 _2cool4me4_ I'm going in the wrong directions
20:06 khonkhortisan sbi(A,C) <-> sbi(C,A) ?
20:08 _2cool4me4_ ehh?
20:08 _2cool4me4_ I'm copying with worldedit
20:08 NekoGloop worldedit doesnt store nodemeta
20:08 NekoGloop which is how microcontrollers work
20:09 khonkhortisan it will, as soon as Uberi looks at my pull request again
20:09 khonkhortisan (except for saving)
20:09 _2cool4me4_ What if I added the parts in the edited functions.lua
20:09 * VanessaE watches some pistons popping in/out in a circule
20:09 VanessaE circle
20:10 NekoGloop VanessaE: hey, i did it first :)
20:10 khonkhortisan _2cool4me4_: this is what you're looking for: https://github.com/khonkhortisan/MineTest-WorldEdit/commit/1a9ce8b9c140867974de66f1f54178bbfb5df8c7
20:10 VanessaE NekoGloop: true, I'm just playing around with it :-)
20:10 _2cool4me4_ do I have to add that manually?
20:10 khonkhortisan VanessaE: Is there a good reason why sbi(1,1) works but on(1) doesn't?
20:11 VanessaE I'll see if jeija can wedge in something so that the µC's internal RAM can update it
20:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan: beats me, that's just how jeija coded it
20:11 khonkhortisan I can't off(B,2) or on(A,1)
20:11 NekoGloop i want cake :)
20:11 _2cool4me4_ khonkhortisan: do I have to edit the functions.lua manually?
20:12 NekoGloop I'm making the old wire-and-torches logic gates, just for the heck of it
20:12 _2cool4me4_ That's pointless
20:12 _2cool4me4_ it isn't even faster
20:12 NekoGloop heh
20:12 * VanessaE makes it cycle around at 5 pots/sec
20:12 VanessaE ports*
20:12 NekoGloop maybe people dont want to use microcontrollers?
20:13 _2cool4me4_ no
20:13 khonkhortisan you could change your git origin to my branch, pull, then move the origin back
20:13 khonkhortisan if you really wanted worldedit to move meta
20:13 _2cool4me4_ I'll just copy-paste a lot...
20:13 _2cool4me4_ as long as the blocks go
20:14 khonkhortisan you just have to wait for the microcontroller to be programmable after you place it (signs are the same way)
20:14 _2cool4me4_ yep
20:14 _2cool4me4_ no problem
20:15 khonkhortisan if we had both microcontrollers and gates, people would argue over which circuit was better even if it did the same thing (more compact, more readable, better design...)
20:15 _2cool4me4_ aw, crap
20:16 VanessaE who cares if they argue?
20:16 VanessaE it's like arguing over the same thing in real circuits
20:17 VanessaE I *still* use the occasional 7400 or discrete transistor
20:17 khonkhortisan it would give people more options for designing the same circuit
20:17 VanessaE yet I'll switch to a GAL if that's the best way to do a circuit
20:17 khonkhortisan besides just layout
20:17 khonkhortisan you lost me, that may be before my time
20:17 VanessaE 7400 = TTL Quad 2-in NAND
20:17 _2cool4me4_ CRAP
20:17 VanessaE GAl = Gate-array Logic
20:18 _2cool4me4_ I just destroyed my circuit
20:18 NekoGloop heh
20:18 khonkhortisan overheat the whole thing?
20:18 VanessaE (contains a few dozen gates and a dozen or so flipflops)
20:18 NekoGloop I'm just doing these gates to see if i remember how to do them
20:18 NekoGloop i have a 3-block OR gate :)
20:18 khonkhortisan or is done with just wire
20:18 _2cool4me4_ no, I moved it and it didn't work
20:19 khonkhortisan yeah, it creates unprogrammed stuff
20:19 khonkhortisan all it cares about is the position, the node name, and not losing nodes when it moves one over another that it's already moving
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20:19 _2cool4me4_ I moved it and only 1 y level moved
20:19 khonkhortisan and the facedir and param1
20:19 _2cool4me4_ so now it's all gone
20:20 khonkhortisan worldedit needs an undo
20:20 _2cool4me4_ I used //move y -1 and now it's all gone
20:20 khonkhortisan how big was it vertically?@
20:20 khonkhortisan -ally?*
20:21 _2cool4me4_ 14...
20:21 _2cool4me4_ goddarnit
20:21 _2cool4me4_ Wait!
20:21 NekoGloop hm...
20:21 _2cool4me4_ There's another copy somewhere... I just have to find it
20:21 NekoGloop XOR gate is being retarded :l
20:22 NekoGloop i currently have a giant NAND gate, not XOR
20:22 _2cool4me4_ I found the copy!
20:22 _2cool4me4_ now back to work
20:24 NekoGloop and now a giant... thing
20:26 _2cool4me4_ and now... ducks
20:26 NekoGloop ok, XOR is working
20:27 NekoGloop XNOR, or whatever you call it, is the same as =, right?
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20:28 _2cool4me4_ Now I have an even taller stack
20:28 _2cool4me4_ can mesecons interact at this height?
20:28 _2cool4me4_ How far away can they be?
20:28 NekoGloop however far your view range is
20:29 _2cool4me4_ nice
20:29 NekoGloop omg
20:29 NekoGloop XOR gate is GIANT
20:29 _2cool4me4_ Then don't make it
20:29 NekoGloop no wonder we got microcontrollers
20:29 NekoGloop I'm just doing a lot of little things
20:30 _2cool4me4_ yup
20:30 NekoGloop a lot of people dislike coding 1k+ microcontrollers to get a computer
20:30 NekoGloop besides, my OR gate actually is smaller than an OR gate with microcontroller
20:30 _2cool4me4_ Well they can not code then
20:30 NekoGloop S O S
20:31 NekoGloop S = switch, O - output
20:31 NekoGloop =*
20:31 _2cool4me4_ That's why people don't make or gates with microcontrollers ;)
20:31 NekoGloop heh
20:31 _2cool4me4_ neko's favorite word
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20:34 NekoGloop yes it is
20:34 NekoGloop because it means nothing
20:34 _2cool4me4_ now I have an 8 bit adder
20:34 _2cool4me4_ without output lights
20:34 _2cool4me4_ if only wireless worked
20:35 _2cool4me4_ It would be very helpful right now
20:38 * _2cool4me4_ kicks #minetest for signs of life
20:38 NekoGloop hey
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20:38 NekoGloop that's my line
20:38 _2cool4me4_ but I kicked it
20:38 NekoGloop i was actually typing it as you said that
20:38 _2cool4me4_ you poke it
20:38 NekoGloop whatever
20:38 NekoGloop well I made a "crunched" XOR gate
20:39 _2cool4me4_ Microcontrollers are much smaller?
20:39 NekoGloop i know
20:39 NekoGloop but I made the wired one i had about 1/3 smaller
20:40 _2cool4me4_ not bad
20:40 NekoGloop that is, its now 2/3 of its previous size
20:41 _2cool4me4_ oh
20:41 _2cool4me4_ still, not bad
20:42 NekoGloop ok well its not XOR
20:42 NekoGloop idk what to call this -_-
20:42 NekoGloop mese pick, lets restart >:D
20:43 NekoGloop hm... if i remember correctly, 313hummer's version was MUCH larger than what i had
20:44 NekoGloop oh and i made a door for lazy people
20:45 _2cool4me4_ Logic
20:46 NekoGloop hm?
20:46 NekoGloop door for lazy people, it uses mesecons door & pressure plates
20:47 NekoGloop oh and an auto-opening floor :)
20:52 khonkhortisan when I made a pressure plate door, it didn't always activate when I walked over the plate
20:52 khonkhortisan Does a real-life NOT gate take three wires?
20:53 NekoGloop Hmmm?
20:53 khonkhortisan B is not A, which is fine if A is on, but if A is off, How are you going to power B? With C.
20:54 NekoGloop ah
20:54 NekoGloop use a microcontroller
20:55 VanessaE a real NOT gate only takes two wires.
20:56 NekoGloop VanessaE: you and jeija are going to judge the mesecon comp entries, right?
20:56 VanessaE yes
20:56 NekoGloop i see
20:57 khonkhortisan how do you get power on the second wire if the first one is off?
20:57 NekoGloop i have a 6x6 screen with two switches hooked up to it, one switch flip-flops a checker pattern on the screen, the other overrides and flushes the screen all on.
20:57 khonkhortisan switch between current and amplitude?
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20:58 _2cool4me4_ I'm here again!
20:58 NekoGloop _2cool4me4_:
20:59 NekoGloop i have a 6x6 screen with two switches hooked up to it, one switch flip-flops a checker pattern on the screen, the other overrides and flushes the screen all on.
20:59 NekoGloop oh and VanessaE as well for the above line
21:00 _2cool4me4_ and
21:00 VanessaE cool.
21:00 _2cool4me4_ That is cool
21:00 _2cool4me4_ Now make a 7-segment display that works
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21:00 NekoGloop its relatively compact as well
21:01 khonkhortisan just made my teamchanger chip: B is T-flop for C, A is C off, D is C on.
21:01 NekoGloop 8x8x12 is the size of my screen and all accomanying wiring
21:01 khonkhortisan if(B)sbi(1,1); if(!B&#1&C)off(C)sbi(1,0); if(!B&#1&!C)on(C)sbi(1,0); if(A)off(C); if(D)on(C);
21:02 NakedFury hey peeps
21:02 NekoGloop hello nakedfuy
21:02 khonkhortisan You could have four buttons: One sets it off, one makes it checkered, one makes it checkered the other way, one makes it on.
21:02 NekoGloop and why are people taking all the stuff i say ;_;
21:03 _2cool4me4_ I dub the...
21:03 _2cool4me4_ THE TOWER OF MATH
21:03 _2cool4me4_ http://tinypic.com/r/242tz4i/6
21:03 NakedFury another award for minecraft
21:03 _2cool4me4_ what did it get
21:03 NakedFury nominated for golden joystick award of best downloadable game, minecraft x360
21:03 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: I'm trying to get the all-off switch to work
21:03 NakedFury nominated but most surely will get it
21:04 _2cool4me4_ who likes my tower of math?
21:04 khonkhortisan your tower is not for the mortal to understand
21:04 _2cool4me4_ it's a full *ahem* compact 8-bit adder
21:04 _2cool4me4_ and it's stackable!
21:04 NakedFury 2cool I might grief it if I enter your server
21:04 NakedFury I am from the anti match legion
21:04 khonkhortisan with four buttons, you can pass them through two rows of microcontrollers to make the last one stay on. Then wire it from there
21:04 _2cool4me4_ I no has server
21:05 _2cool4me4_ and I has backups!
21:05 NakedFury I destroy backups!
21:06 _2cool4me4_ 4 so you can't destroy me
21:06 _2cool4me4_ 9I will destroy you
21:06 _2cool4me4_ with color
21:06 khonkhortisan haha my client highlights messages with my name in red. I was wondering why that was highlighted
21:06 NakedFury nooo! bright green!
21:06 khonkhortisan green on papyrus green, too
21:06 _2cool4me4_ and blue
21:06 NakedFury blue is okay
21:07 NakedFury best color in nature
21:07 khonkhortisan there is blue lightstone
21:07 _2cool4me4_ 4khonkhort: this is not highlighted to you
21:07 NakedFury blue is blue is blue
21:07 khonkhortisan is blue
21:07 _2cool4me4_ is NOT yellow
21:07 khonkhortisan aah! you did it again, I though that was a real highlight.
21:08 _2cool4me4_ I win
21:08 khonkhortisan yep
21:08 _2cool4me4_ Icechat highlights messages from me in this color
21:08 _2cool4me4_ nope, wrong one
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21:09 _2cool4me4_ This one?
21:09 _2cool4me4_ no
21:09 khonkhortisan set your irc background to papyrus
21:09 NekoGloop green is the enemy
21:09 Phitherek_ hi everyone :)
21:09 khonkhortisan hello
21:09 Phitherek_ there is a kind of problem I found
21:10 Phitherek_ on c55' s github
21:10 _2cool4me4_ 9Khonk can't read this. let's talk about him behind his back.
21:10 khonkhortisan I can highlight it with my mouse
21:10 _2cool4me4_ lol
21:10 khonkhortisan which also copies it
21:11 Phitherek_ I mean, I' ve just read a post on the forum explaining, that the -j option in make is a number of cores
21:11 _2cool4me4_ I have 4 cores
21:11 Phitherek_ and c55 in his README for minetest engine has -j2 permanently
21:11 Phitherek_ near make
21:11 Phitherek_ I think it should be explained
21:11 _2cool4me4_ you.. do mean cpu right?
21:11 VanessaE it's a reasonable default.
21:12 VanessaE if you have four cores, use -j6 or -j8
21:12 _2cool4me4_ where do I put that setting? *powerhungry*
21:12 VanessaE it's just a compiler setting, controls how many threads are used to build the sources
21:13 _2cool4me4_ ohhh
21:13 VanessaE it has no effect on the compiled code itself.
21:13 _2cool4me4_ [/stupidity]
21:13 Phitherek_ ah, I see why -j2 now :)
21:13 * NekoGloop feeds 2cool 50 gigawatts of power :)
21:13 _2cool4me4_ Nummy *grows*
21:13 NekoGloop LOL
21:13 NekoGloop its a growing threat
21:13 Phitherek_ because even one core processors are two-threaded (most of the new ones)
21:14 Phitherek_ I could use -j4 then :>
21:14 VanessaE yup
21:14 VanessaE I routinely use -j12 (6 cores)
21:14 NekoGloop stop pinging me
21:14 _2cool4me4_ tsk, tsk. slow ping, neko
21:14 VanessaE NekoGloop: PING!
21:14 Phitherek_ 6 cores? :O
21:14 VanessaE Phitherek_: yeah
21:14 Phitherek_ where did you get that? :D
21:14 _2cool4me4_ the internet
21:15 VanessaE um...on PortaTech? :-)
21:15 _2cool4me4_ on the internet, right?
21:15 VanessaE I don't buy off-the-rack :-)
21:15 Phitherek_ didn' t hear about it...
21:15 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: yes
21:15 _2cool4me4_ my tower of math... is beautiful
21:22 _2cool4me4_ now the tower of math is a full 16 bits
21:22 _2cool4me4_ It's beautiful
21:23 _2cool4me4_ *begins tearing up
21:24 * NekoGloop slaps 2cool
21:24 NekoGloop GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF, MAN!
21:24 _2cool4me4_ Sorry
21:27 NekoGloop >:D
21:27 NekoGloop well my screen has 3 inputs now
21:27 _2cool4me4_ What do they do?
21:27 VanessaE bbl
21:28 NekoGloop the newest one blanks out the screen
21:29 _2cool4me4_ oh?
21:29 NekoGloop basically the off-override
21:29 NekoGloop i already had an on-override
21:33 khonkhortisan So if it's crossed one way, you turn it off, then press the cross button, does it turn on to the same cross or the opposite cross
21:33 khonkhortisan ?
21:33 NekoGloop no the overrides take precedence
21:34 khonkhortisan when you turn it on again has it switched which way it's crossed?
21:34 NekoGloop nope
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21:38 khonkhortisan now I have a setting for who goes first after a win, and a setting for whether it blinks when someone wins, and a manual turn switcher as well as the automatic one. (Still working on the turn style setting)
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21:40 khonkhortisan huh. Lamps don't actually connect to wire.
21:41 NekoGloop must not be in the mesecon group
21:41 khonkhortisan it works, it's just the nodebox doesn't change to add a little strip of wire for it to visually connect
21:43 NekoGloop as i said
21:43 khonkhortisan I have five wires, Xin, Oin, Side, Xout, Oout. When Side is low, Xin goes to Xout, and Oin goes to Oout. When Side is high, Xin goes to Oout, Oin goes to Oout. How would I accomplish this?
21:43 khonkhortisan oops I meant "When Side is high, Xin goes to Oout, Oin goes to Xout"
21:43 khonkhortisan I need a wire-crosser.
21:52 khonkhortisan I made one with a 2x4 grid of µcs, I wonder if it can be smaller.
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21:56 khonkhortisan hello /clientquery!
21:56 Phitherek_ erm
21:56 Phitherek_ it was me :D. I was curious what IRC client do you use ;)
21:57 NekoGloop heh
21:57 khonkhortisan yes, it tells me who it was
21:57 NekoGloop heh
21:57 NekoGloop Mine was empty :D
21:57 khonkhortisan I don't think anyone else needs a wire swapper, just me.
21:58 NekoGloop wire... swapper?
21:58 khonkhortisan two wires going in, two wires going out, a side wire that swaps the signals of the two wires.
21:59 NekoGloop ... you lost me at "two"
21:59 khonkhortisan I have two wires. One says that player X won the game. The other says that player O won the game.
21:59 khonkhortisan I have those connected to two more wires. One says it's now X's turn. The other says it's now O's turn.
22:00 NekoGloop AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
22:00 khonkhortisan The side wire says whether loser goes first or winner goes first when the game is restarted.
22:00 * NekoGloop runs away
22:00 NekoGloop oh but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM
22:00 NakedFury 1,0You0,4Tube1,15 「Lon×Soraru」 Matryoshka -Band Arrange Ver.- - (Sub. Español) [2,15User1,15: schokoladekot] [2,15Views1,15: 61125] [3,1513361,15] [4,1531,15] [2,15Time1,15: 00:03:301,15]
22:00 NakedFury 1,0You0,4Tube1,15 「Lon×Soraru」 Matryoshka -Band Arrange Ver.- - (Sub. Español) [2,15User1,15: schokoladekot] [2,15Views1,15: 61125] [3,1513361,15] [4,1531,15] [2,15Time1,15: 00:03:301,15]
22:00 khonkhortisan so I need to swap whether winning makes it your turn or winning makes it the other person's turn
22:00 NekoGloop heh i see he restarted his bot
22:01 Phitherek_ useful :P
22:01 NakedFury they always load and help
22:01 khonkhortisan some more non-manga anime?
22:01 NekoGloop heh
22:01 khonkhortisan it prints twice
22:01 NekoGloop its in japanese still :l
22:01 NakedFury is there any way to have that bot pm me the info instead of shout it?
22:01 khonkhortisan probably.
22:01 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM
22:01 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM
22:01 khonkhortisan pm yourself?
22:01 NekoGloop aw
22:02 Echo_ joined #minetest
22:02 NakedFury brb
22:02 VanessaE back.
22:02 NekoGloop heh
22:02 NekoGloop wb vanessae
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22:03 NakedFury ok only one loaded now
22:03 khonkhortisan Do you say anything if I say this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gosY-UrpHcA&amp;feature=plcp
22:03 NakedFury 1,0You0,4Tube1,15 Nearer My God to Thee (for 9 cellos) - ThePianoGuys [2,15User1,15: ThePianoGuys] [2,15Views1,15: 2834869] [3,15297011,15] [4,151941,15] [2,15Time1,15: 00:03:181,15]
22:03 khonkhortisan haha cool
22:03 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM
22:03 NakedFury 1,0You0,4Tube1,15 「Lon×Soraru」 Matryoshka -Band Arrange Ver.- - (Sub. Español) [2,15User1,15: schokoladekot] [2,15Views1,15: 61125] [3,1513361,15] [4,1531,15] [2,15Time1,15: 00:03:301,15]
22:03 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM
22:03 NakedFury 1,0You0,4Tube1,15 「Lon×Soraru」 Matryoshka -Band Arrange Ver.- - (Sub. Español) [2,15User1,15: schokoladekot] [2,15Views1,15: 61125] [3,1513361,15] [4,1531,15] [2,15Time1,15: 00:03:301,15]
22:03 NekoGloop \:D/
22:03 NekoGloop trolololo
22:03 khonkhortisan I like your bot now
22:03 Phitherek_ yeah it' s cool ;)
22:03 NakedFury I had downloaded it first as italian then changed it to english but it kept loading both versions
22:04 Phitherek_ ah
22:04 Phitherek_ so it' s not yours? :P
22:04 khonkhortisan if only your bot mentioned the link again, you could get two bots stuck in a loop
22:04 NakedFury yeah a weird loop
22:05 Phitherek_ spamming loop :D
22:05 khonkhortisan first bot: that video is called this! second bot: no it's called this!
22:06 khonkhortisan If you had two ports on a single side of a microcontroller I could make my wire switcher with just two chips
22:06 khonkhortisan but no, I have to use eight.
22:09 NekoGloop seed 1860552122443454853 gave me an interesting spawn...
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22:09 khonkhortisan ha! my wire switcher works perfectly!
22:09 khonkhortisan Now to find out if I have it switched backwards...
22:11 Phitherek_ NekoGloop: is there any way to "copy" a map using seed (I mean, generate with custom seed)?
22:11 NekoGloop yes
22:12 NekoGloop in minetest.conf, fixed_map_seed = <your seed>
22:12 Phitherek_ ah
22:12 Phitherek_ but will this remove all the existing worlds?
22:13 NekoGloop nope
22:13 NekoGloop just will change ones generated from then on
22:13 Phitherek_ or just I can create a new one and change back settings, so I can use some custom maps.
22:13 NekoGloop yeah that too :)
22:13 Phitherek_ thx :) I was just curious, maybe I will use that some day :)
22:16 khonkhortisan aah! the wire that won't turn off!
22:16 NekoGloop the lag that wouldnt stop!
22:17 Phitherek_ restart the srv ;)
22:17 khonkhortisan I reset the board, it goes dark, then one comes back on!
22:30 NekoGloop i'm fixing jungletree mod :D
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22:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
22:31 NekoGloop wb PilzAdam
22:31 NakedFury hello mr adams!
22:31 Phitherek_ hi PilzAdam ;)
22:32 NekoGloop hrmm... i know i had a question to ask you...
22:32 NakedFury how are you??
22:34 PilzAdam me?
22:34 NakedFury yeah
22:34 PilzAdam main developer of cars, beds, farming, tnt, throwing and some other mods
22:34 PilzAdam *carts
22:34 PilzAdam (main and only developer)
22:34 NakedFury how are you not who are you
22:35 NakedFury I know your awesome works of lua goodness
22:35 Phitherek_ +1
22:35 VanessaE sigh..  no inspiration and no drive to do anything today :-/
22:35 PilzAdam ooops i read who...
22:35 NakedFury vanessa play games
22:36 NakedFury openttd if you like some strategy and economic games
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22:36 VanessaE meh
22:36 VanessaE don't even wanna play games
22:38 NekoGloop joined #minetest
22:38 NekoGloop well... windows just crashed... that's the first time its done that to me.
22:39 NekoGloop ofc i think i shouldnt access a file that's running either
22:41 NekoGloop interesting part is that the BSoD didnt appear
22:41 NekoGloop windows just... rebooted
22:43 NekoGloop anyway, another question. Is it possible to check a parameter from the minetest.conf from lua?
22:44 PilzAdam search for "setting" in lua-api.txt
22:45 NekoGloop ty
22:47 NekoGloop now my custom jungletrees have leaves that are transparent when new_style_leaves is on, like the rest of them
22:47 NekoGloop ... assuming i spelled everything right :)
22:49 PilzAdam should i release my TNT mod in the current state?
22:49 NekoGloop idk whats the current state? :)
22:50 PilzAdam see gitjug: https://github.com/PilzAdam/TNT
22:50 PilzAdam -j +h
22:50 PilzAdam NekoGloop, btw http://windows.github.com/
22:51 khonkhortisan -g +b
22:52 * PilzAdam cant type at night
22:52 NekoGloop its not exactly night :)
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22:52 PilzAdam 00:52
22:52 * khonkhortisan feels inclined to make a joke about needing to see the keys to touch type
22:53 NekoGloop heh
22:53 * khonkhortisan or something about being a night owl
22:53 * NekoGloop gives khon a cookie
22:53 MiJyn PilzAdam, you have a comment on your readme
22:53 PilzAdam i dont look at the keys but my finders are tired, not my mind
22:54 khonkhortisan cookie!
22:54 MiJyn :P
22:54 * NekoGloop gives MiJyn a cookie as well
22:54 NekoGloop heh this github installer is installing microsoft .NET 4
22:54 NekoGloop how nice of it
22:54 * MiJyn smells it suspiciously, and uses sfan5's nuke mod to make sure it's ok
22:54 khonkhortisan github has an installer?
22:55 NekoGloop for windows
22:55 khonkhortisan hit it with tnt if that doesn't work
22:55 Phitherek_ there is github for win and for mac :
22:55 Phitherek_ :P
22:55 MiJyn khon, yeah, that's what I did
22:55 khonkhortisan is it a graphical git client?
22:55 Fifi joined #minetest
22:55 Phitherek_ yeah
22:55 Fifi Hm
22:55 NekoGloop no its just A git client :)
22:55 Phitherek_ or rather graphical github client
22:55 MiJyn sadly, the whole room is filled with the remnants of a cookie :/
22:55 Phitherek_ ah
22:55 PilzAdam MiJyn, what comment?
22:56 Phitherek_ right
22:56 Fifi Strange o.O ChanServ said that my nickname is taken but i still have it o.O
22:56 khonkhortisan Does it make it easy to pull from one place and push to another?
22:56 Fifi Hey all
22:56 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: windows cant compress to git on its own
22:56 MiJyn PilzAdam on your TNT mod
22:56 khonkhortisan ?!
22:56 MiJyn hi Fifi
22:56 khonkhortisan HiFi hi
22:56 NekoGloop 1/3 done for github client
22:56 khonkhortisan I mean hiFi fi
22:56 Fifi :D
22:56 * NekoGloop gives fifi a cookie
22:57 Echo_ PilzAdam, what about placing many many TNT and fire em up together with a TNT-remote? Only the ones, the player set.
22:57 * MiJyn puts TNT on Neko's cookie supply
22:57 MiJyn :P
22:58 * NekoGloop eats the tnt
22:58 NekoGloop yum... *burp*
22:58 khonkhortisan I can't change my name to tnt (in any capitalization) and say /me explodes
22:58 PilzAdam Echo_, what do you mean exactly?
22:58 Phitherek_ yum... BOOOOM! :P
22:58 khonkhortisan don't most tnt remotes have to be connected by wire?
22:58 * dynamite explodes
22:58 * PilzAdam DANGER_TNT
22:59 khonkhortisan and have something on the top to push?
22:59 MiJyn now we not only have hundreds of cookie remnants, but we also have an exploded human body
22:59 Echo_ Could be nice, if you were able to put about 20 TNT all around. Then take a trigger and BOOOM
22:59 * DANGER_TNT blows
22:59 MiJyn seems like as if it could be in a PG-13 movie
22:59 NekoGloop heh nick dynamite is already registered
23:00 NekoGloop nickserv did a warning message
23:00 MiJyn lol
23:00 NekoGloop but i had enough time to type that line :)
23:00 MiJyn xD
23:00 PilzAdam thats funny
23:00 MiJyn before NickServ made you explode?
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23:02 * NekoGloop gives #minetest cookies
23:02 MiJyn sciopath, wow, you mean NekoGloop's explosion even exploded your internet cable?
23:02 PilzAdam NekoGloop, how many cookies do you have?
23:02 MiJyn too many :/
23:03 khonkhortisan #minetest counts its cookies and leaks memory
23:03 NekoGloop PilzAdam: thanks to creative mode, however many i want
23:03 Fifi Cookie :3
23:03 Fifi Kk i'm back xD sorry, i was afk.
23:03 khonkhortisan Has anyone ever stacked a giant block of how much stuff you can fit into a chest?
23:03 * PilzAdam changes creative to survival mode
23:03 PilzAdam NekoGloop, whats now?
23:04 NekoGloop noooooooooooooooooo
23:04 NekoGloop i only have 99 left ;_;
23:04 * NekoGloop is server admin, changes it back
23:04 * PilzAdam kills NekoGloop so he spawns anywhere else
23:04 khonkhortisan NekoGloop didn't write down the coordinates
23:04 khonkhortisan NekoGloop looks through the server log to get them
23:04 NekoGloop /teleport NekoGloop PilzAdam
23:05 Fifi Fifi grabs some popcorn
23:05 NekoGloop why, hello there. want a cookie?
23:05 * Fifi grabs some popcorn
23:05 khonkhortisan that teleport has been done toward me
23:05 * Phitherek_ built a railway to spawn point
23:05 khonkhortisan no one's teleported me to them yet
23:05 NekoGloop hrgh
23:05 NekoGloop github for windows is being retarded
23:05 Fifi Btw. I have a question: Does anybody know Calinou (author of MoreBlocks) ;>?
23:05 PilzAdam no windows is retarded
23:06 khonkhortisan I've seen him on here
23:06 khonkhortisan my client makes his name green
23:06 Phitherek_ he is here now and then
23:06 PilzAdam Fifi, hes french nobydy wants to know him
23:06 PilzAdam -y +o
23:06 khonkhortisan elderberries!
23:06 Fifi xD
23:06 NekoGloop i cant track other repositries? @ PilzAdam
23:06 khonkhortisan what do you mean by "track"?
23:06 PilzAdam what do you mean by "track"?
23:07 NekoGloop like... it looks like i should somehow be able to look for updates on repos, but i cant figure out how
23:07 PilzAdam git pull
23:07 khonkhortisan git commit;git push
23:07 khonkhortisan pull request
23:07 khonkhortisan merge
23:07 Phitherek_ git add
23:08 Fifi I made the same recipe as he did for tar, so I wanted do ask him if it would be possible (if he will be so nice) to change his tar recipe to wood instead of gravel (by the way, tar is rather made of wood, so I think it's logic) ;) - or do I have to change my recipe :P
23:08 khonkhortisan git add or git commit -a
23:08 Phitherek_ git rm
23:08 Phitherek_ :P
23:08 PilzAdam yay lets randomly throw git commands on NekoGloop
23:08 Fifi git cookie
23:08 PilzAdam git help
23:08 PilzAdam git windows
23:08 Fifi every command should have cookie parameter
23:08 PilzAdam git linux
23:08 NekoGloop no... i cant view other repos, and thus i cant pull git things
23:08 PilzAdam git rm_OS
23:08 khonkhortisan git get got gone
23:08 Fifi git && rm -rf /
23:08 Fifi ;>
23:08 khonkhortisan hey!
23:08 Fifi xD
23:09 Phitherek_ :D
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23:09 khonkhortisan that would only destroy what you have write access to
23:09 Fifi :O
23:09 Fifi damn, true
23:09 Fifi but :D
23:09 Fifi hm
23:09 Fifi in most insecure distros this should work:
23:09 khonkhortisan always give your sudo a password
23:10 Phitherek_ :>
23:10 Fifi :(){ :|:& };:
23:10 khonkhortisan yuck. What is that?
23:10 Keegann anyone know wine?
23:10 Fifi don't run this in bash shell xD
23:10 khonkhortisan I use wine to get on gameboom
23:10 Fifi it defines function ":"
23:10 khonkhortisan which does?
23:10 Keegann like how do i scroll up
23:11 khonkhortisan oh I see that :(){ }
23:11 Fifi which launches function : and another function : and let it go in another thread
23:11 Fifi and then runs :\
23:11 Fifi ':
23:11 MiJyn yep
23:11 khonkhortisan so it's just a fork bomb.
23:11 MiJyn and then it runs it again
23:11 MiJyn and again
23:11 Keegann how do i scroll up in wine?
23:11 MiJyn and again
23:11 Fifi on most insecured distros this makes fork bomb
23:11 MiJyn exactly
23:11 Fifi yep
23:11 Fifi and this doesn't need sudo
23:11 khonkhortisan why do you need to protect from fork bombs?
23:11 Fifi i don't know :P
23:12 Fifi i rather don't use unchecked scripts ;P
23:12 Fifi and even if, hanging up my pc probably wont be very dramatic
23:12 khonkhortisan oh. it multiplies, instead of just calling itself with | &
23:12 Fifi anyway, there is some way to disable it via /etc/something_i_forgot
23:12 Fifi yep :P
23:12 Fifi reccurency bomb; P
23:12 khonkhortisan and the last : runs it
23:12 Fifi yep
23:13 khonkhortisan there now I understand each symbol. It looked like picket fence when I first saw it.
23:13 Fifi it's shorten to the maximum to avoid recognition :D
23:13 Fifi normally it should take a few lines :P
23:13 khonkhortisan do you need spaces inside the curly brackets?
23:13 Fifi i'm not sure tbh.
23:14 Fifi i'm scared to check xD
23:14 khonkhortisan :(){:|:&};:
23:14 khonkhortisan now just add a null character escape before that, and use that as part of your username to log onto a website.
23:14 khonkhortisan Bye website!
23:15 Fifi xD
23:15 Fifi btw.
23:15 Fifi while(1) { fork(); }
23:15 Fifi in C
23:15 Fifi even faster way to crash D:
23:15 khonkhortisan now that one's obvious.
23:15 khonkhortisan The other just looks like string corruption
23:16 Fifi :D
23:16 Fifi true
23:16 Fifi oh btw.
23:16 Fifi /etc/security/limits.conf
23:16 Fifi * hard nproc 50
23:16 Fifi 50 - max. num of processes xD
23:16 Fifi or temporarily ulimit -u 50 in console
23:16 khonkhortisan my realtime settings are in there
23:16 Fifi i just reminded it to myself :P
23:17 khonkhortisan there's similar lines in there commented out for student/faculty, 20/50
23:18 khonkhortisan is there a command to make the player face exactly along an axis?
23:18 NekoGloop nope
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23:18 Octupus hello
23:19 Fifi hey
23:19 khonkhortisan ollə4
23:19 Octupus helllo
23:19 Fifi khonkhortisan: on windows it's even faster :D %0|%0
23:19 khonkhortisan nothing around it?
23:19 khonkhortisan oh, %0 is a redirect to what you just ran.
23:20 Fifi yes ;D
23:20 Fifi btw.
23:20 Fifi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb#Defusing nice methods
23:20 Fifi while (sleep 100 &) do; done this in ZSH should theoretically defuse forkbomb in about a minute :O
23:21 Fifi by stealing free resources from fork bomb to prevent making new copies
23:21 Fifi but tbh i'm not sure about this :O
23:21 khonkhortisan I don't know how you'd redifine :() while the fork bomb was exploding
23:21 Fifi every time i made a tests to see how fast forkbomb mess up the whole PC it completly losses control over the keyboard... do how do i need to type this
23:22 Octupus what u guys talkiing about
23:22 Fifi true, nice :D
23:22 Phitherek_ hey
23:22 khonkhortisan fork bombs
23:22 Fifi but it only can work when we still have access to that console
23:22 Octupus some1 shud make a boat mod
23:22 khonkhortisan and how to prevent
23:22 khonkhortisan there's a raft mod
23:22 Fifi :(){ :|:& };: - about this little "friend"
23:23 Octupus no but a oat like u can control like in t
23:23 Octupus boat and mc
23:23 khonkhortisan the raft moves in the direction you are facing, at a constant speed
23:23 Fifi I made a terraria materials mod
23:23 Fifi (btw.)
23:23 NekoGloop i'm fixing jungletree
23:23 Fifi what do you mean :O? making wood craftable?
23:24 NekoGloop nope
23:24 NekoGloop i'm fixing the jungletree mod
23:24 Fifi ahhh mo
23:24 khonkhortisan yep, it needs the spaces inside the curly braces
23:24 Fifi 'mod
23:24 Fifi o.O you tried it :O?
23:25 Fifi Ojoj :(
23:25 Fifi We probably should pray for him now
23:25 NekoGloop special leaves for jungletrees, these leaves drop the jungletree saplings, and jungletree saplings will grow insanely fast
23:25 Fifi Maybe he'll survive this D:
23:25 NekoGloop Fifi: no he'll jsut unplug the computer
23:25 Fifi NekoGloop: so this is other think than the default jungle trees?
23:25 Fifi xD
23:26 NekoGloop yes and no
23:26 NekoGloop original mod uses its own tree nodes, but my fix uses default jungletree node
23:27 Fifi :O
23:27 Fifi I'm planning to add Terraria-like trees to my mod :)
23:27 NekoGloop cool
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23:27 Fifi But I have to practice generating terrain a bit
23:27 khonkhortisanafk thanks a lot, that was nearly instant.
23:28 Fifi Uff, our prays was listened, you survived.
23:28 Fifi Sorry xD I didn't thought you will really try it D:
23:28 khonkhortisanafk I thought I could kill it quick enough
23:28 khonkhortisanafk and I didn't have anything to lose
23:28 NekoGloop i figured he would unplug the computer
23:28 khonkhortisanafk I rebooted
23:29 NekoGloop heh
23:29 khonkhortisanafk now I'm gone
23:29 NekoGloop unplugging is a faster way :D
23:29 khonkhortisan I think the worldedit "?" axis is off
23:29 MiJyn lol yeah
23:30 Fifi NekoGloop: for now I have tin brick, copper brick, bronze brick, silver brick, golden brick, mithril brick, special carbon fibre blocks, carbon bricks made of them, marble, porphyry, granite, marble brick, porphyry brick, granite brick, sandstone brick - all of that got stairs, slabs and panels.
23:31 Fifi I used stairs, slabs and panels code from MoreBlocks, which used this code from (if i recall correctly) stairs mod
23:31 NekoGloop may i be the first to say... holy shit
23:31 Fifi I added also stone wall (similar to stone wall from Terraria), planked wall (also similar) and wooden beam (to made wall more interesting) xD
23:31 Fifi :D
23:32 Fifi Tbh, it adds only materials, so it's nothing especially complicated
23:32 Fifi But I finally can feel like in 3D Terraria :3
23:33 NekoGloop I was thinking of making a ceiling panel thingy, where the nodebox is basically a little cross, crafting would be sticks in a + shape
23:33 Fifi I tried to make color torches and shiny blocks, but i haven't found it possible :(
23:33 NekoGloop i dont think shiny is possible
23:33 NekoGloop as for colored lighting i know that's not possible
23:34 Fifi You know, because it was in terraria (shiny bricks - golden, silver, mithril - it looked very nice)
23:34 Fifi ah :(
23:34 Fifi btw. i'm not sure if I understand it correctly. What do you mean by ceiling panel :O
23:35 NekoGloop like this
23:35 NekoGloop |
23:35 NekoGloop - + -
23:35 NekoGloop |
23:35 NekoGloop probably looks much better in a non-fixed-width font
23:36 NekoGloop and that shape would be a nodebox in the top of the node
23:37 Fifi Yyy
23:37 Fifi But how it will look?
23:37 NekoGloop like wood
23:37 MiJyn NekoGloop, colored lighting is possible
23:37 NekoGloop made from sticks ofc
23:37 Fifi Hmm
23:37 MiJyn someone did it
23:37 MiJyn in C++
23:37 Fifi I'm just wandering what it will be in real life ;)
23:37 MiJyn it's just a bit slower (and minetest can't afford that :P)
23:37 Fifi :O
23:38 Fifi Ah xD
23:38 Fifi So byebye epic feature for my mod :D
23:38 Fifi Btw. does anybody know why shapeless craft doesn't want to work :(?
23:38 MiJyn lol
23:38 Fifi I copied working one from other mod, changed names and .. fail xD
23:38 NekoGloop pastebin your recipe
23:39 Fifi Sec
23:40 Fifi http://pastebin.ca/2199232
23:40 PilzAdam what is this: 'node "default:stone"' ?
23:41 NekoGloop it points to the node "default:stone"
23:41 NekoGloop Fifi: what is the name of the folder this mod is in?
23:42 PilzAdam ive never seen this before
23:42 NekoGloop its in some mods
23:43 khonkhortisan you can't collect stone
23:43 NekoGloop yes you can
23:43 khonkhortisan without /giveme
23:43 NekoGloop put cobble in a furnace
23:43 khonkhortisan oh yeah
23:43 NekoGloop but...
23:43 khonkhortisan I built a house that way
23:43 NekoGloop Fifi: are you using COBBLEstone instead of STONE?
23:44 Octupus i have a nothing i wud like to share
23:44 Basstard` Octupus: Tentacle erotica?
23:44 Octupus ok
23:44 khonkhortisan then make something to share
23:44 Octupus um is using the bathrom using the 3dfurinture mod toilet as in to shit and piss be a mod or engine
23:44 NekoGloop ew :)
23:45 Octupus like sims
23:45 Octupus with has vanessas pipeworks to connect it to a water source
23:46 Octupus mod or engine?
23:47 NekoGloop ew :)
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23:49 Octupus mod or engine
23:49 Fifi No, i used stone :D
23:50 Fifi I copied that node "" stuff from other mod
23:50 Fifi i already realised that it's unnecessary
23:50 Fifi but it works anyway in other recipes (non-shapeless)
23:51 NekoGloop hrgh
23:52 Octupus SO  MOD OR ENGINE
23:53 NekoGloop Fifi: folder name?
23:55 NekoGloop ok how do i make a thingy on github :/
23:59 Fifi y
23:59 Fifi sec

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