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00:08 * khonkhortisan just noticed the subject
00:08 NakedFury what is today?
00:08 NekoGloop Today is pull your hair out day
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00:20 * GTRsdk reads the topic
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00:22 khonkhortisan INFO: izua joined a channel before cloak activation
00:22 izua OH SHIT you know my ip
00:22 khonkhortisan yep
00:22 izua my ocmputer is gonna die
00:23 khonkhortisan depends on what you run on it
00:23 izua oh shit GTRsdk is already checking my client
00:23 izua i'm fucked
00:23 izua duuude.. no.
00:23 izua just no
00:23 izua just ask me what editor i use
00:23 izua or if derps and better than herps
00:23 izua but no linux vs windows
00:24 khonkhortisan vs mac vs bsd vs sun vs...
00:24 GTRsdk Linux or BSD are potential winners
00:24 khonkhortisan all I need is to send you to a website with an ip logger, it's not hard to get
00:24 GTRsdk you can't easily get my IP address >:D
00:25 izua it's not like you can do a whole lot with an ip though
00:25 izua a lot of people run their internet connection through a router
00:25 GTRsdk you could: DDoS, try SSH root, or something else
00:25 izua well
00:25 khonkhortisan I found out having a desktop enviroment runs trojans when suffixed with .desktop
00:25 khonkhortisan no execute bit necessary
00:26 izua neat
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00:40 khonkhortisan Does anyone know how to make a mesecon clock that's persistent across server restarts that doesn't involve the use of a blinky plant?
00:40 NekoGloop Uh...
00:41 NekoGloop I'll get back to you on that one...
00:42 Isabella :P im still tired, i had to stin a deck, well part of it
00:42 BicycleRepairMan 02:42:00 <Isabella> :P im still tired <-me too :-O
00:42 khonkhortisan I guess a blinky plant blinks fast enough for my purposes
00:44 Isabella hmm
00:44 Isabella hahaha
00:46 Isabella hmmmmmmm
00:46 BicycleRepairMan hmmmmm
00:47 Octupus HMMMMMMMMMM
00:47 Octupus :)
00:47 BicycleRepairMan HMmMmMmMmMm
00:48 Octupus HMmMMmMMmMMmMMmMM
00:48 BicycleRepairMan ok you win :D
00:49 NekoGloop Is that the sound your girlfriend's car makes or her?
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00:50 Octupus no he sound like UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
00:50 Octupus zSHE
00:50 Octupus SHE
00:50 Octupus SHE
00:51 khonkhortisan if I have a big rectangle filled with µCs, with two types of programming, I want a way to tell where the programming differs at a glance. I'm thinking of adding the delayer display on top of the chip, graphically displaying the length of the programming.
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00:51 Isabella why
00:51 Isabella wow i meant
00:51 Isabella how do you change nickname???
00:52 NekoGloop ... /nick newnam
00:52 Tengri its time for a short name
00:52 NekoGloop newname*
00:52 Tengri well
00:52 Isabella ok
00:53 newname what the
00:53 Tengri ok :D
00:53 NekoGloop Just replace newname with your newname
00:53 khonkhortisan it's actually possible to get race conditions with mesecons
00:53 newname hahaha oops
00:53 newname ok
00:53 LoL huh
00:53 NekoGloop No!
00:53 NekoGloop Not league of legends!
00:53 LoL whut
00:53 Guest37882 its going to go away
00:54 wiredest arrgggh
00:54 wiredest hahahaha
00:54 wiredest-of-wire :P arrggh
00:55 NekoGloop Lol
00:56 NekoGloop Pick one and stay with it
00:56 Tengri i see, she has fun
00:57 Isabella wait
00:57 Tengri oh thats new ;D
00:57 UbuntuNerd hehehehe :)
00:57 NekoGloop LOL
00:57 Tengri are you play on redcrabs server?
00:57 Tengri Nerdi
00:58 UbuntuNerd no m13.sytes.net
00:58 UbuntuNerd or
00:58 khonkhortisan I added a display to the µC by adding a transparent texture on top of it, but it causes the inventory image to turn white
00:58 madchicken13 poor you
00:59 madchicken13 bye bye
01:00 Isabella bye
01:00 NekoGloop Lol
01:01 Tengri its time to sleep, good nigth
01:01 khonkhortisan What causes a white inventory image and how do I fix it?
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01:01 saschaheylik_ Octupus: mese
01:01 Octupus banana
01:01 saschaheylik_ now, i would make a facebook page
01:02 saschaheylik_ and then we gather people who like facebook
01:02 saschaheylik_ and have a bunch of friends
01:02 saschaheylik_ and tell them to like it
01:02 Octupus yes
01:02 saschaheylik_ which then, hopefull produces a > 100% sharing rate
01:02 saschaheylik_ then we have an audience
01:02 saschaheylik_ which we can ask to give us money
01:02 NekoGloop Just make a freakin facebook page
01:03 Octupus so we can grain profit
01:03 saschaheylik_ ok ok
01:03 NekoGloop People search for minecraft might find minetest
01:03 saschaheylik_ xD
01:03 Octupus u want me to make it or u
01:03 saschaheylik_ no i will
01:03 Octupus ok
01:03 khonkhortisan woo texture corruption!
01:03 Octupus il be the first liker :)
01:04 saschaheylik_ Octupus: yay
01:04 NekoGloop I'll just kinda sorta not like it since i dont want to share my name ;)
01:04 saschaheylik_ is this an "App page", "Games/Toys" or "Software"
01:04 NekoGloop Games/toys
01:04 saschaheylik_ NekoGloop: why? thats a nice project
01:05 NekoGloop Hm?
01:05 saschaheylik_ Fuck off "You're temporarily blocked from using this feature. "
01:05 NekoGloop ?
01:05 saschaheylik_ idk facebook don't like me
01:06 NekoGloop But you like it--*shot*
01:06 Octupus lol sas
01:06 saschaheylik_ no i fucking hate it
01:06 saschaheylik_ such a stupid bitch site
01:07 NekoGloop Meh
01:07 saschaheylik_ only reason i stayed on there was because of marketing using pages
01:07 saschaheylik_ now because i gotta talk to people who dont use other shit much
01:08 saschaheylik_ and not make any money
01:08 Octupus u want me to start it?
01:09 saschaheylik_ depends on how much you know about marketing on facebook
01:10 Octupus Nada
01:10 saschaheylik_ i guess i cant make another facebook account because they want your phone number now
01:10 NekoGloop They do? :o
01:10 saschaheylik_ yes seems like it
01:11 saschaheylik_ dont think there was a button to some other option
01:11 saschaheylik_ at least in austria
01:11 saschaheylik_ or.. at least for my ip lol
01:12 Octupus hmmm
01:12 Octupus did u sign up new?
01:12 saschaheylik_ i made a second acc under a different name to try a bug which lets you get 5k friends... they didnt like that
01:13 saschaheylik_ had to use same phone number
01:13 saschaheylik_ guess thats how they made that connection
01:13 saschaheylik_ smart people they are
01:13 saschaheylik_ little bitches nonetheless
01:13 Octupus make a random 7 digit number
01:13 saschaheylik_ no they send you a PIN
01:14 saschaheylik_ Zuckerberg's Privacy Stance: Facebook CEO 'Doesn't Believe In Privacy'
01:14 Octupus hmm what about i make a email using your email
01:15 saschaheylik_ im not sure what you mean
01:15 Octupus srry how about i use your email to make a fb
01:16 saschaheylik_ youd have to make a new email at hushmail for example
01:16 saschaheylik_ and then give me the password for that and the fb
01:16 saschaheylik_ also the phone number you use has to not be associated to any accounts
01:16 saschaheylik_ if they ask for that
01:17 Octupus k
01:17 saschaheylik_ which may depend on if your ip is associated with any other accs
01:17 Octupus not in honduras no
01:18 saschaheylik_ great
01:18 Octupus so il make 1
01:18 Octupus and u can do that stuff
01:18 saschaheylik_ oh no it wasnt my ip i used tor
01:19 saschaheylik_ ok
01:20 khonkhortisan how to I convert a decimal number from 0 to 16 into a binary number from 0000 to 1111 in lua?
01:20 Octupus celebrity or business
01:20 Octupus or ban sas
01:21 Octupus or normal account
01:22 saschaheylik_ i think you can use your facebook acc to make a page and make me admin on it
01:22 Octupus ok
01:26 Octupus sas what u want me to make it as
01:26 Octupus business
01:27 saschaheylik_ product
01:27 Octupus company
01:27 saschaheylik_ or entertainment?
01:27 Octupus brand
01:27 Octupus so product or entertainemnt
01:27 saschaheylik_ product, i guess
01:28 Octupus i put it as games/toys
01:28 NekoGloop Yeah games/toys makes sense
01:29 saschaheylik_ and then make me http://www.facebook.com/sheylik admin
01:29 Octupus Software then
01:29 saschaheylik_ no games
01:29 saschaheylik_ or no
01:29 saschaheylik_ software
01:29 saschaheylik_ right
01:29 saschaheylik_ i guess they mean board games?
01:30 Octupus software?
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:30 NakedFury a minetest facebook page
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:30 NakedFury thats an excellent idea
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:30 NakedFury more promotion
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:30 NakedFury yes man!
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:30 saschaheylik_ yes
01:31 NekoGloop More promotion so that griefers from minecraft see a new thing to tear apart
01:31 Octupus so software or product/serive
01:31 NekoGloop Good job! (not really)
01:31 Octupus *service
01:31 saschaheylik_ software
01:31 saschaheylik_ do it
01:31 NakedFury it is good because that helps us find the problems faster
01:31 saschaheylik_ and gets us more coders
01:32 saschaheylik_ and maybe money
01:32 saschaheylik_ to give us time to work on it
01:32 saschaheylik_ and the ability to hire help
01:32 saschaheylik_ and of course feedback
01:34 saschaheylik_ if we build a game based on what the customers "need" it will sell like jaffa cakes to simon.. or louis... or both.. idk
01:40 Octupus page is done sas
01:41 saschaheylik_ <saschaheylik_> and then make me http://www.facebook.com/sheylik admin
01:42 saschaheylik_ can you do that?
01:42 saschaheylik_ i hope you can
01:42 saschaheylik_ brb getting some peaches
01:42 Octupus k
01:45 Octupus i cant figure out to finish the page with this comment and liking stuff ;l
01:46 saschaheylik_ just make me admin
01:46 Octupus im trying
01:46 Octupus I GOT IT
01:46 Octupus ok how i add admin now?
01:47 saschaheylik_ idk
01:47 saschaheylik_ maybe google "how to add admin facebook page"
01:47 Octupus lol
01:49 Octupus sas add me on fb
01:49 saschaheylik_ link to your profile?
01:51 saschaheylik_ or your fb name...
01:52 Octupus just type john bodden pic of elmo
01:52 saschaheylik_ request sent
01:53 Octupus k
01:53 Octupus sascha
01:54 saschaheylik_ yes?
01:54 Octupus ok making sure
01:55 Octupus u a guy right
01:55 saschaheylik_ yes
01:55 Octupus ok
02:03 Octupus sas i invitied u to my page
02:05 saschaheylik_ ok i liked it
02:06 saschaheylik_ can you make me admin now?
02:06 saschaheylik_ damn im hungry
02:06 Octupus there u go friend u a admin
02:06 saschaheylik_ ok thx
02:06 saschaheylik_ brb
02:57 khonkhortisan reasking: dec to bin in lua?
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03:10 NakedFury lua:
03:11 NakedFury function dectobin(x) local r="" for i=0, 7 do r = (x % 2^i)..r x = x - (x % 2^1) end return tonumber(r) end
03:12 NakedFury http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=56390654
03:12 NakedFury found it there
03:12 NakedFury can that help?
03:14 khonkhortisan I saw that, they didn't seem to sure of their answers. I got it working my way, I'll try that way because it's shorter.
03:18 khonkhortisan this is what I needed it for http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848533240/in/photostream/lightbox/
03:19 khonkhortisan the display is based on the length of the programming, so you can have a grid of µCs and still see where your circuit is different
03:20 NakedFury interesting
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03:24 cornernote hi
03:24 cornernote can you have a formspec type thing popup without clicking a node ?
03:24 khonkhortisan A non-working example demonstrating the usefulness: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848558836/in/photostream/lightbox/
03:24 cornernote eg, can a mod just popup a window to a player for some random reason (eg, a timer or something)?
03:25 khonkhortisan isn't a timer already in a node?
03:25 cornernote its not for a timer
03:25 cornernote i dont want a node
03:25 cornernote i want a popup
03:25 cornernote like "Hello Player, 10 seconds have passed"
03:26 cornernote not when they dig a node
03:26 khonkhortisan if you want to say that you can just use minetest.chat_send_player(name, text)
03:26 khonkhortisan or chat_send_alll
03:26 cornernote khonkhortisan - i made a model of a 7-led number display .. but i have to program it
03:26 cornernote no, not a chat... its a popup where they have to click OK
03:26 khonkhortisan I haven't made an adder yet, just a font machine
03:27 cornernote i made a halfadder in 1 mc
03:27 cornernote so an adder will just be 1 more of those
03:27 cornernote but carring the remainder of the 1st one
03:27 * khonkhortisan still has to read up on half-adders
03:28 cornernote yeah, it wasnt easy to understand
03:28 cornernote easier to build than to understand
03:28 cornernote heres the halfadder: off(C,D)if(A~B)on(C);if(A&B)on(D);: A and B are inputs, C and D are outputs
03:29 cornernote i can explain it if you like ?
03:29 cornernote its easier to understand once you build it
03:29 cornernote cos you can watch the circuits
03:30 cornernote and follow the logic gates
03:30 khonkhortisan that dectobin is very similar to mine
03:31 cornernote if(A~B) <<-- this is the xor gate
03:31 khonkhortisan what would you put after a half-adder?
03:31 cornernote if(A&B) << -- this is the AND gate
03:31 khonkhortisan C is 1, D is 2
03:31 cornernote off at the start just ensures it turns it off before starting
03:32 cornernote yes, i think so
03:32 khonkhortisan why? Can't you just do   sbi(C,A~B)sbi(D,A&B)   ?
03:32 cornernote i didnt know what sbi did
03:32 khonkhortisan it's a copy, pretty much
03:32 cornernote but if that does the same thing, sure
03:33 cornernote will it handle the initial off(C,D) ?
03:33 khonkhortisan sbi(A,C)sbi(B,D) is useful for two non-intersecting one-way wires
03:33 khonkhortisan for sbi, if the condition is true, the wire will be on. If the condition is false, the wire will be off.
03:33 cornernote <khonkhortisan> what would you put after a half-adder? .....   you mean, like a light/piston/etc ?
03:33 cornernote ok, nice
03:34 khonkhortisan to make a full adder
03:34 cornernote whats sbi stand for ?
03:34 khonkhortisan I don't know :)
03:34 cornernote to make a full adder, i havent done it yet
03:34 cornernote have a look here
03:34 khonkhortisan the language interpreter is in the same file as the node definition
03:34 cornernote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adder_(electronics)
03:34 cornernote its basically 2 half adders
03:34 cornernote with an extra logic gate
03:35 cornernote one of the outputs of the 1st halfadder goes to one input in the 2nd one
03:35 khonkhortisan I can't read circuitry xors and ands anymore
03:35 cornernote why?
03:35 cornernote you mean you dont know which gate to use ?
03:35 cornernote sec...
03:36 cornernote the additional gate is an OR gate
03:36 khonkhortisan okay
03:36 cornernote so, 2 halfadders + an OR gate
03:36 cornernote but i think the OR gate can be built into one of the halfadders
03:36 cornernote in the mc
03:36 khonkhortisan Can you type a µ?
03:37 cornernote no
03:37 khonkhortisan I like fancy characters
03:37 cornernote i can copy/paste it
03:37 cornernote µ
03:37 cornernote but no key for it on my keyboard
03:37 cornernote maybe some key combo will give it, dunno
03:37 khonkhortisan I set up a compose key
03:37 cornernote yeah, i have a g15, i can set a macro for it
03:38 cornernote so, no way to popup a formspec without digging a node ?
03:38 khonkhortisan idk. if there isn't a way the way should be made
03:41 khonkhortisan I haven't even made the node-based gui yet
03:42 cornernote what do you mean ?
03:42 cornernote node based gui for what?
03:42 khonkhortisan for anything, I haven't asked the player anything or made any popups. I've only printed to command line and broadcasted chat.
03:43 cornernote i did craft_guide which needed an inventory
03:43 cornernote that was my 1st mod =)
03:43 khonkhortisan craft_guide is very useful
03:43 cornernote thanks
03:44 khonkhortisan that's how I found out how to make a strawberry bush from strawberries
03:44 cornernote still has a problem, but hopefully next MT release will patch those issues
03:44 cornernote some items cant be looked up, if they are in internal quotes... '"mod:item" 5'
03:44 khonkhortisan what, that you have to put the item back before you can look at another one?
03:45 khonkhortisan yes I saw that mentioned somewhere
03:45 cornernote no, you just drop it ontop
03:45 cornernote but the old one may go back into your cursor
03:45 cornernote then you just dump it up the top
03:45 cornernote other issue is multiple recipes make the same output
03:46 cornernote eg, a door makes a right-door, and a right-door makes a door
03:46 cornernote but how do you make a door from wood!?
03:46 khonkhortisan you have to sort by both source and output maybe
03:46 cornernote both are issues with the engine not giving me the info needed
03:46 cornernote needs a next/prev recipe button
03:47 cornernote have you tried skyblock yet ?
03:47 khonkhortisan and sorting by mod/alphabetic/number of item required if you want to be really featurefull
03:47 khonkhortisan no
03:47 cornernote and searching by item name
03:47 cornernote that would be HOT
03:48 khonkhortisan cobblestone generator?
03:48 cornernote skyblock is very minimal, but it has crafts to make all the default items... its really fun cos you can multiply a small number of blocks to a huge kingdom in the sky
03:49 cornernote put on the ground like this:   lava + air + water
03:49 cornernote the air will become stone
03:49 cornernote mine it
03:49 cornernote it will becme stone again
03:49 cornernote repeat
03:49 khonkhortisan I'll just craft a piston
03:49 cornernote to do what ?
03:49 khonkhortisan to make a bridge generator
03:50 cornernote how ?
03:50 cornernote stack of blocks, and it pushes them out and out and out
03:50 cornernote and what refills it ?
03:50 cornernote after each push
03:50 khonkhortisan piston pushes cobble away from the generator, piston moves back, the cobble is recreatod from lava and water
03:51 cornernote ahh
03:51 cornernote wow, nice
03:51 cornernote long as the piston plunger is non-flamable
03:51 khonkhortisan then with more pistons, you can make it two-dimensional for a bridge
03:52 khonkhortisan even if a piston can only push so many blocks, just zigzag with multiple pistons
03:52 cornernote can you do it and make a screenshot for the game page on the forums ?
03:52 khonkhortisan I don't have a cobble generator
03:52 cornernote skyblock
03:52 cornernote sec..
03:52 cornernote u want the code, or the game ?
03:53 khonkhortisan uh I'll just get it myself
03:53 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/blob/master/register_abm.lua#L161
03:53 cornernote line 161 down to line 190
03:54 khonkhortisan so if the lava flows first it doesn't work?
03:54 cornernote still works
03:54 cornernote the lava_flowing will turn to stone
03:54 khonkhortisan oh. that first one is flowing
03:54 cornernote -- lava_flowing next to water_source will turn to stone
03:55 cornernote 1 note...
03:55 cornernote lava_source + water_source = lava_source turns to stone
03:55 cornernote make sure there is air between them
03:55 khonkhortisan is this already hosted somewhere?
03:55 cornernote no :( :(
03:55 cornernote well, i have it, but im in Australia
03:56 cornernote so it will be so sucky cos it will be slow
04:01 khonkhortisan ooh! pistons go up!
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04:12 khonkhortisan I have a loop of four delayers, I connect an on wire to it then immediately dig, and it goes around about 11 times before ending up all on
04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: re: your decimal-to-binary question:  use a table.  dectobin={"0000","0001","0010",...,"1111"} and then access it, binary=dectobin[decimal]
04:16 VanessaE well, decimal+1
04:17 VanessaE back in the 8-bit days, this was the fastest way to accomplish such a thing, as long as the range of numbers is small enough
04:18 khonkhortisan Did you see the two images?
04:18 cy1 wow, that skyblock mod is downright evil
04:18 VanessaE no
04:19 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848533240/in/photostream/lightbox/ click the <-- Newer button
04:19 cy1 you can be walking through a dip in terrain and suddenly LAVA ON YOUR HEAD
04:19 cy1 with a 1/10 chance every 2 seconds o.O
04:19 khonkhortisan so run fast!
04:19 cy1 evil!
04:20 cy1 never make an abm that turns air to lava. o.O
04:20 khonkhortisan Is there a way to load it without changing my default mods?
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04:21 khonkhortisan VanessaE: What do you think? it lets you see the programming at a glance in case you have a very complicated grid of them
04:23 VanessaE hang on
04:23 VanessaE AW
04:23 VanessaE you overwrote my fancy logo :(
04:24 VanessaE in high-resolution images of the uC have the minetest logo and "part number" of the chip there
04:24 VanessaE (fictitious part number of course)
04:25 khonkhortisan oh. I should put it in the corner like the delayer then.
04:25 VanessaE absolutely yes
04:25 VanessaE but what does it show?
04:25 VanessaE the letters are supposed to light up on output anyway
04:25 khonkhortisan it shows the modulus length of the programming
04:25 khonkhortisan the letters still work
04:25 VanessaE ohh
04:26 VanessaE put the LEDs in one corner of the PCB area then
04:26 VanessaE (the green part surrounding the IC)
04:26 khonkhortisan so if you have a bunch that are all the same and a few that are different you can find them
04:27 khonkhortisan I would've put them on the white where it makes less sense
04:27 khonkhortisan look at the <--Newer picture, that's what it's for
04:28 VanessaE I see it
04:28 VanessaE well
04:28 VanessaE the texture for the uC is 32x32, so you could easily tuck it into the PCB area, say below/right of the "A" LED.
04:30 VanessaE (that is, in the lower-left corner of the PCB)
04:30 VanessaE btw, what does this slab of uC's do anyway?
04:31 VanessaE make that µC - forgot about my compose key ;)
04:31 khonkhortisan it does nothing, I don't want to mess up my real circuit. I have two 18x8 µC grids used for blinking the winning line on tictactoe
04:33 VanessaE cool
04:35 khonkhortisan I'm overlaying a transparent texture for the display so there are 16*2 µc textures instead of 16^2
04:35 VanessaE smart
04:35 VanessaE bnow
04:35 VanessaE as for the clock,
04:35 VanessaE the µC has a built-in timer
04:35 khonkhortisan does it happen to work better?
04:36 VanessaE dunno, I haven't tried it
04:36 VanessaE the timer looks to be a one-shot timer though
04:36 VanessaE but if you loop it from timer out back to timer in it would work.
04:37 VanessaE so something like:    if(A)after(0.1, on(B))after(0.1, off(B))
04:37 VanessaE then you loop a wire from A to B and also branch off of that to get your clock
04:38 VanessaE (in this case, that should give you a 5 Hz clock)
04:38 khonkhortisan I could just use B the whole time
04:38 VanessaE well you need the wire loop around otherwise the timer will only execute one cycle
04:38 khonkhortisan if(B)after(0.1,off(B));if(!B)after(0.1,on(B));
04:39 VanessaE that would work too
04:39 VanessaE but I dunno if the code can refer to itself like that
04:39 VanessaE you might need a small delay after each if
04:39 khonkhortisan it can, as long as you have a wire on the B side
04:40 VanessaE there ya go :-)
04:40 khonkhortisan output is on the µC node, input is on the neighbor node
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05:03 khonkhortisan minetest: pthread_mutex_lock.c:62: __pthread_mutex_lock: Assertion `mutex->__data.__owner == 0' failed. Aborted
05:03 VanessaE um, ouch?
05:03 VanessaE :-)
05:05 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848964998/in/photostream/lightbox/
05:06 VanessaE perfect.
05:06 VanessaE when that patch goes in, I'll tweak my photorealistic textures to allow for it.
05:06 VanessaE and I'll tune the nodebox model to raise it up a tad also
05:07 khonkhortisan half the chip height?
05:07 VanessaE I think 1/4 of the chip height
05:08 VanessaE just enough to suggest a group of tiny surface-mounted LEDs or so
05:08 khonkhortisan so we can have LEDs small enough to fit in a node but we can't have touchscreens made out of buttons and lightstone
05:08 VanessaE btw, I think you should hash the code instead of using the length
05:09 khonkhortisan yes, but that would be more complicated
05:09 VanessaE that way you can be sure each µC will have a unique pattern if they're different
05:09 khonkhortisan then I fit it into 16 different display options
05:10 VanessaE hrm
05:10 VanessaE yeah I suppose so
05:10 khonkhortisan yeah, you're right, letters could be switched but the programming is the same
05:11 VanessaE might need to draw 3x3 or 4x4 LEDs in that little space though for a hash to be effective.
05:11 khonkhortisan each on port and on LED makes a different node definition
05:11 VanessaE right
05:13 khonkhortisan with 4x4 LEDs that would be (4*4)^2 * 16 or 4096 nodes just for µCs
05:13 khonkhortisan with 2x2 it's 256
05:13 VanessaE um.. on second though, let's just stick with 2x2.
05:19 VanessaE does it create the extra nodes on demand or at startup?
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05:24 VanessaE ick
05:24 VanessaE jeija probably won't go for that
05:25 VanessaE he's a bit hesitant about adding hundreds of new nodes.
05:25 NakedFury makes modules
05:25 VanessaE (and btw, it would be 2^20 for a 4x4 LED matrix, or 1048576 nodes, since that's 16 bits + the 4 bits' worth of I/O :-)
05:26 khonkhortisan so if(!minetest.registered_nodes('microcontroller00000000')) then minetest.register_node(
05:26 VanessaE sure, if that'll create a proper on-demand registration
05:27 khonkhortisan 16 * 4
05:27 khonkhortisan whoops
05:27 VanessaE then you can have as many hash LEDs as you want
05:27 khonkhortisan then if it's the last hash on the planet deregister it?
05:27 VanessaE there will only be as many actual nodes defined as the number of unique hashes the LEDs resolve to and are actually in use
05:27 khonkhortisan and how will  I create the hundreds of images?
05:27 VanessaE do like thexyz does - create them on-demand also
05:27 VanessaE (see his signs mod)
05:28 khonkhortisan oh yeah I was meaning to look at that
05:28 VanessaE also, jin_xi's painting mod does something very similar
05:30 VanessaE doing it on-demand gives you more flexibility and uses less memory anyway
05:32 khonkhortisan so I have more work to do
05:32 VanessaE yeah
05:33 VanessaE but even with a 2x2 LED hash (or whatever) you should still use on-demand registration
05:33 VanessaE maybe we should split up the microcontroller images as well?
05:33 VanessaE mm...maybe not
05:33 VanessaE well yeah
05:33 khonkhortisan it would create less images, the same amount of nodes.
05:34 VanessaE 1 main top image with four "off" LEDs on it plus four separate "on" LED images
05:34 khonkhortisan bottom^A^B^C^D.png up to five overlapped images
05:34 VanessaE yes exactly
05:34 khonkhortisan that would be an improvement if minetest can handle that many images
05:34 VanessaE the side images would remain unchanged
05:37 khonkhortisan I can't seem to write on the sign
05:37 VanessaE right-click on it and type something in
05:37 VanessaE make sure you're using a new sign
05:37 VanessaE not the old one
05:38 VanessaE W W W
05:38 VanessaE W W S
05:38 VanessaE - - 0
05:38 VanessaE gah s/0/-/
05:38 VanessaE five wood and a stick I think is the recipe
05:38 khonkhortisan six wood no stick
05:38 VanessaE oh ok
05:39 * MiJyn is away: Gone phishing
05:39 khonkhortisan you weren't even here
05:39 VanessaE there will need to be aliases registered for the existing microcontroller0000-1111 nodes also
05:39 VanessaE lest this proposed change end up breaking old maps
05:39 VanessaE (I don't want my 8-bit adder to break :D )
05:40 khonkhortisan the text is green from the back and there's little dots of color around the sign
05:41 VanessaE bug in the game.
05:41 VanessaE one sec, lemme get the fix for you
05:42 VanessaE http://paste.dy.fi/dAK
05:43 VanessaE apply this against latest git
05:43 VanessaE (line 9 is the only change, if you want to apply it manually)
05:43 khonkhortisan did it manually, now running
05:44 VanessaE ok
05:44 khonkhortisan that's better
05:44 VanessaE not sure why c55 didn't push that to git master yet, but it works for thexyz and I also.
05:45 VanessaE (and c55 is the one who came up with it :-) )
05:45 khonkhortisan maybe because it only appears to affect a mod
05:46 khonkhortisan I've been playing on gameboom too long when I see papyrus in singleplayer I have an urge to take it
05:47 VanessaE haha
05:49 khonkhortisan after a server restart, how would I know what hashes to re-register?
05:49 VanessaE not sure
05:50 VanessaE store them in a database with the world files maybe?
05:50 VanessaE or in the various nodes' metadata
05:53 VanessaE in thexyz's signs mod, the overlay image created by the text rendering routine gets stored with the sign I guess, or it gets re-rendered, but either way the visible text is presistent across restarts
05:53 VanessaE (after the gfx glitch bug fix above)
05:54 VanessaE I dunno, it's just a thought anyway
05:56 khonkhortisan so there could be just six images and 16 nodes and another meta string for the 4x4 hash
05:56 VanessaE yeah
05:56 VanessaE that's probably easiest
05:56 khonkhortisan night
05:56 VanessaE assuming indeed the 4x4 hash - it might end up being harder to read though
05:58 VanessaE er, good night.
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06:10 VanessaE morning TLP
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07:29 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2688 /branches/stable-0.2/util/colors.txt: Add apple color to minetestmapper and fix cactus color
07:29 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2689 /branches/stable-0.2/util/minetestmapper.py: minetestmapper speed tweaks (kahrl & JacobF)
07:29 CIA-17 minetest: kahrl * r2690 /branches/stable-0.2/util/minetestmapper.py:
07:29 CIA-17 minetest: minetestmapper: Fix the way ylist is computed, use cStringIO instead of rolling
07:29 CIA-17 minetest: own Bytestream, remove some artifacts when drawing underground blocks, introduce
07:29 CIA-17 minetest: a --drawunderground switch (defaults to of), 'blocknum' renamed to 'content'.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2691 /branches/stable-0.2/doc/changelog.txt: Update changelog
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2692 /branches/stable-0.3: Update changelog and call this 0.3.1
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2693 /branches/stable-0.3/src/filesys.cpp: Add #include <unistd.h> to filesys.cpp (needed by some linux distros now)
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2694 /branches/stable-0.3/src/content_craft.cpp: Add wooden planks to creative inventory (...finally 8D)
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2695 /branches/stable-0.3/ (doc/changelog.txt CMakeLists.txt): Update changelog and call this 0.3.2
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2696 /branches/stable-0.4: Version 0.4.1
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2697 /tags/0.4.1: Version 0.4.1
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2698 /tags/0.4.2-rc1: Call this 0.4.2-rc1
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2699 /tags/0.4.0: BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2700 /branches/stable-0.2.20110922/ (584 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2701 /branches/next/ (233 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2702 /branches/newnodemetadata_v3/ (239 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2703 /branches/newnodemetadata_v4/ (235 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2704 /branches/node_texture_animation/ (165 files in 13 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2705 /branches/oldmaster/ (586 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2706 /branches/stable/ (586 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0.
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: perttu.ahola * r2707 /trunk/builtin/item.lua:
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: Fix github issue #213: Dropping unknown items crashes the game
07:30 CIA-17 minetest: The items will now just disappear when dropped.
07:33 VanessaE oh that accomplished a whole lot.
07:35 Calinou omg cia bot
07:35 Calinou spam
07:35 VanessaE morning Calinou.
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07:58 mika__ anybody online?
07:58 VanessaE no :)
07:59 VanessaE ha!
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09:17 cornernote updated skyblock - now has ingame challenges - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2799
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10:12 jin_xi suo
10:12 jin_xi sup?
10:13 Calinou hi
10:13 Calinou I'm working on documenting moreores/moreblocks on the wiki :D
10:13 Calinou making some 3D renders first
10:13 jin_xi cool
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10:24 Calinou gtg for now, lunch
10:24 * Calinou is also sorting his 3d renders
10:24 Calinou I have like 150 of them :p
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10:29 bas080 blame your favorite religion today O.o
10:30 jin_xi kopimism made me do it
10:30 bas080 I am focusing on creative ideas for minetest... that's why i'm here
10:31 Basstard` Books.
10:32 jin_xi what would be in books?
10:32 bas080 Minetest should have books indeed!
10:34 Basstard` jin_xi: Tentacle erotica.
10:36 jin_xi all i could hope for
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10:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:39 bas080 PilzAdam, hey man.
10:40 jin_xi Hi Adam
10:40 PilzAdam we should change the topic
10:40 bas080 +1
10:40 Topic for #minetest is now Minetest is awesome!
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10:44 bas080 or what about: For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more...
10:44 Topic for #minetest is now Minetest is awesome! | For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more...
10:47 Basstard` Or what about: Minetest - now with tentace erotica!
10:47 Basstard` tentacle.
10:47 Topic for #minetest is now Minetest is awesome! | For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more... | Now with tentace erotica!
10:48 Topic for #minetest is now Minetest is awesome! | For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more... | Now with tentacle erotica!
10:51 bas080 If that's how we want to represent all the people working hard on this project...
10:51 Topic for #minetest is now Minetest is awesome! | For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more...
10:52 bas080 this is our message towards the outside world
10:59 Basstard` Minetest would benefit.
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11:00 FreeFull Tentacle mod?
11:00 Basstard` Indeed.
11:08 bas080 Can you mod Basstard?
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11:38 bas080 VanessaE, the pipes mod is awesome but why do the pipes not connect in my 4.2-rc1 minetest version
11:38 bas080 they also do look very square ish not like in screenshot
11:40 RealBadAngel comment out old ones
11:42 bas080 thnx RealBadAngel
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11:43 bas080 Can i also remove the oldpipes.lua
11:43 bas080 ?
11:43 NekoGloop We talking about vanessa's pipeworks?
11:44 NekoGloop If so, then yes you can.
11:44 bas080 yes NekoGlooop
11:44 NekoGloop Nice topic.
11:46 bas080 thnx
11:47 NekoGloop No i meant the one set by pilzadam
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11:54 PilzAdam Im back
11:55 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam
11:55 PilzAdam sup
11:55 * NekoGloop pokes him again :3
11:55 * PilzAdam pokes back
11:55 NekoGloop (i have nothing better to do)
11:56 PilzAdam http://tagesschau.de/ausland/breivik250.html
11:56 NekoGloop Lol... I cant read that...
11:59 cornernote hey guys
11:59 * NekoGloop pokes cornernote
11:59 PilzAdam hi
11:59 cornernote im getting this error keeps crashing my server, not sure what it means...
12:00 cornernote ServerEnv trying to store id=XX statically but block (199,-3,204) already contains over 49 objects. Forcing delete.
12:01 cornernote it keeps doing that, and then soon it crashes
12:01 PilzAdam there are too many entities/objects in the position
12:01 cornernote i goto that pos, but theres nothing there but air
12:01 PilzAdam try /clearobjects
12:03 cornernote seems to work, thanks
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12:16 NekoGloop 9000 endermen vs. 1 slenderman
12:16 NekoGloop Who wins?
12:16 Basstard` blenderman
12:16 Calinou bender wins
12:16 Basstard` Hah
12:16 NekoGloop Do you know why?
12:22 bas080 I have the water intake in the water and a pump not ontop of it by beside it. At the end of the pipe there is a waterstorage. Why is it not pumping?
12:22 bas080 the pump is in the pipeline.
12:22 NekoGloop Because that part isnt done yet?
12:23 bas080 isn't it NekoGloop?
12:24 NekoGloop ...?
12:24 bas080 ???
12:24 PilzAdam ???
12:24 NekoGloop Dont understand your question...
12:25 bas080 why doesn't it pump to water storage while I did as the instructions said i should?
12:25 cornernote now my client is going crazy... keeps freezing and then the console says "resizing window"
12:33 bas080 why u no work? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2008242012%20-%2002%3A30%3A37%20PM.png
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12:43 PilzAdam ___━━____┓━╭━━━━━╮
12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____┗┓|::::::::::^━━^
12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____━┗|:::::::: |。◕‿‿◕。|
12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____━━╰O--O----O-O-╯
12:43 NekoGloop NYANCAT~
12:44 PilzAdam yay
12:44 NekoGloop (i take it you found one?)
12:46 gtrsdk_ can't you only find it in 0.3.x?
12:47 PilzAdam ive found one in 0.4
12:48 NekoGloop And from looking at mapgen.lua, they're just rare as sh*t
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12:49 mika__ how do i install a new map in minetest, i seem to have lost the one i had and multiplayer aint working
12:49 Octupus hi
12:49 mika__ hi
12:49 Octupus ok mika
12:49 Octupus an adventure map or a signle player map
12:50 NekoGloop Same goddamn thing, octopus.
12:50 mika__ now it found my map again, but a new single player map would be nice
12:50 Octupus they are different gloop
12:50 NekoGloop No they arent
12:50 Octupus ok go to singleplaer on mt
12:51 mika__ im here
12:51 Octupus and click new world _ minetestgame_Put a name_click create
12:51 NekoGloop Not until i get my adventuretest gamemode, the two are the same
12:53 mika__ octupus, i downloaded earlier a map, which folder should i put it in so the game finds it
12:53 NekoGloop ~/worlds
12:54 PilzAdam mika__, you have a system wide installed version?
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12:54 mika__ idk, running ubuntu
12:54 PilzAdam you use ppa?
12:54 NekoGloop In the worlds folder where you have minetest installed
12:54 sir-king-lol-guy LOL
12:55 PilzAdam hi sir-king-lol-guy
12:55 mika__ i downloaded zip and then threw it terminal
12:55 sir-king-lol-guy sup
12:55 Isabella LOL
12:55 mika__ i found the worlds folder
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12:56 PilzAdam hi Isabella
12:56 Isabella whirm: hello :P
12:56 Isabella hi adam
12:57 sir-king-lol-guy lol
12:57 mika__ got some towncraft map, here is no gravity
12:57 whirm sir-king-lol-guy: hi
12:58 sir-king-lol-guy omg
12:58 sir-king-lol-guy omg lol
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12:59 Octupus stupid connection
12:59 PilzAdam Isabelle/sir-king-lol-guy, so you are your own best friend?
13:03 Basstard` Octupus: Do you have any tentacle erotica?
13:04 sir-king-lol-guy i guess :)
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13:06 * VanessaE is in
13:06 NekoGloop Hello vanessae :3
13:07 VanessaE bas080: you don't have to do anything to the mod - just choose the newer pipes in your creative inventory or /giveme pipeworks:pipe 999
13:07 VanessaE also hi :-)
13:07 VanessaE the old pipes do not participate in any way with the new code, they're only present for backwards-compatibility.
13:07 VanessaE heyneko
13:07 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
13:08 bas080 Hey VanessaE
13:08 VanessaE hey PilzAdam
13:08 bas080 I had to comment out the old nodes otherwise i got the more square tubes.
13:08 bas080 and they didn't auto connect.
13:08 * VanessaE offers a nice hit bowl of ramen noodles :-)
13:08 VanessaE hot*
13:08 VanessaE bas080: both types of pipes are in the creative inventory - you sure you have the most recent git of pipeworks?
13:09 bas080 i think not...
13:09 bas080 downloaded an hour ago.
13:09 VanessaE that's the latest
13:09 bas080 does the pump function work?
13:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel is working on that part.
13:10 VanessaE he says it works pretty well in his testing, should be ready for release today when last I heard
13:10 bas080 VanessaE, i remember reading that yesterday.
13:10 bas080 He was doing the sea test :P
13:10 VanessaE there ya go :-)
13:11 bas080 How is that going RealBadAngel?
13:11 * NekoGloop slurps the ramen :3
13:12 * PilzAdam slurps NekoGloops blood
13:12 NekoGloop O.O
13:12 VanessaE anyhow, you need to make sure you're trying to build with the round pipe ("Pipe Segment") and not the square one ( "Empty Pipe (horizontal)" )
13:13 bas080 I did that. I'm using the round ones. +1 for that nice mod
13:13 VanessaE cool
13:13 VanessaE thanks :-)
13:13 bas080 It opens allot of doors for other cool mods
13:14 bas080 alot! :P
13:14 bas080 ***bas080 facepalms himself
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13:15 VanessaE ?
13:15 PilzAdam ?
13:15 NekoGloop Alot is better than you at everything
13:15 VanessaE oh heh
13:15 bas080 also facepalming!
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13:16 VanessaE just got up, so I'm still a little dense :-)
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13:17 VanessaE mika__: hold still dammit
13:17 NekoGloop Lol
13:17 mika__ i'm trying, its this xchat that crashes
13:17 VanessaE I use xchat, seems okay to me
13:17 * PilzAdam uses XChat too
13:18 NekoGloop I use colloquy
13:18 mika__ i dont know what it is but when i close that ubuntu conversation this crashes
13:18 VanessaE what conversation?
13:18 VanessaE you DO know you're not supposed to just "close" a window just because it's open
13:18 mika__ #ubuntu on freenode, it's there locked at startup
13:19 VanessaE um
13:19 VanessaE that's the server tab,
13:19 VanessaE you're not crashing xchat,
13:19 VanessaE it's supposed to do that.
13:19 mika__ no not freenode, ubuntu
13:19 PilzAdam rightclick on the channel and click close
13:19 PilzAdam and not close the window
13:20 VanessaE right click on the channel text, select XChat -> Network List...
13:20 VanessaE edit the entry for freenode to take the #ubuntu out
13:20 mika__ i rightclick and close but it crashes every now and then
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13:22 VanessaE mika stop clicking on stuff!
13:23 VanessaE *grumble*(
13:23 NekoGloop Just leave him/her
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13:23 PilzAdam *it
13:23 NekoGloop That too.
13:25 VanessaE you know, you'd think after the first dozen or so crashes she'd get the idea that the program doesn't work for her and try something else instead.
13:25 VanessaE (assuming they're really crashes and not her terminating the program the wrong way)
13:25 NekoGloop You'd think she'd just stop trolling us
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13:26 mika__ now i tried to get into preferencees
13:26 NekoGloop Lol
13:27 PilzAdam >:-(
13:27 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam :3
13:27 * PilzAdam pokes back
13:27 * NekoGloop giggle
13:28 * PilzAdam pokes harder
13:28 * NekoGloop giggles
13:28 * PilzAdam pokes even harder
13:28 NekoGloop H-hey... That hurts... ;_;
13:28 PilzAdam :-)
13:31 * VanessaE tries PilzAdam ambiance mod
13:32 PilzAdam yay
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13:32 VanessaE meh, foldername must be wrong
13:33 NekoGloop ambience*
13:33 PilzAdam yes
13:33 VanessaE When you clone from git it's different :-)
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13:33 VanessaE mike stop clicking on stuff!
13:33 VanessaE mika even
13:33 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1_ZrUMG5g
13:33 PilzAdam http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat
13:34 PilzAdam mika___, read this
13:34 VanessaE mika___: just use something else if xchat is that unstable
13:34 mika___ i am on the net
13:34 VanessaE you mean the web.
13:34 mika___ webchat.freenode.net
13:34 thexyz pidgin ftw
13:34 VanessaE I've never seen someone have so much trouble with xchat.
13:35 VanessaE what are you clicking on that it just keeps crashing??
13:35 mika___ changed my internet cable cause i have one thats broken, but my internet seems stable on speedtests
13:35 NekoGloop If i tried, it would work even less...
13:35 gtrsdk_ VanessaE: where do you sde xchat problems?
13:35 VanessaE gtrsdk_: [08-24 09:17] <mika__> i'm trying, its this xchat that crashes
13:35 mika___ it was anykey
13:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: ha!  segfaulted minetest while generating the cache :-)
13:36 gtrsdk_ mika___: which OS?
13:36 mika___ ubuntu 12,04
13:37 mika___ it's possible the hardware is the a problem
13:37 gtrsdk_ mika___: does ping google.com get any errors or dropped packets/
13:38 mika___ ?
13:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: this is nice.  need way more bird songs though but this is realyl nice
13:38 VanessaE really*
13:38 PilzAdam neromancer has more sounds
13:39 gtrsdk_ mika___: or, if it is crashing... do you have it set to minimize to the Unity bar or something?
13:39 Isabella Hi
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13:40 PilzAdam hi Isabella
13:40 Isabella hi... :3
13:40 mika___ i installed it couple of days ago from software center, its default settings
13:41 VanessaE oh G*d, not Unity
13:41 VanessaE ANYTHING but that
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13:41 mika___ unity?
13:41 * VanessaE hands mika___ copies of xfce, lxde, windowmaker, twm, and e.
13:41 VanessaE mika___: it's the default user interface in ubuntu.
13:41 * PilzAdam uses Kubuntu
13:41 NekoGloop Just give it windows
13:41 VanessaE NO!
13:41 VanessaE BAD kitty!
13:41 PilzAdam NO!!!
13:42 VanessaE *hiissssss*
13:42 * PilzAdam hitss NekoGloop
13:42 * NekoGloop cries
13:42 * PilzAdam throws him out of the window
13:42 VanessaE MEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww [fades]
13:42 mika___ i hate that sidebar but dont know how to get rid of it. used 10.04, then downloaded this 12.04 when it came out and tried it and now this week i installed it again
13:42 VanessaE *splat*
13:42 NekoGloop Wheeeee~
13:42 VanessaE mika___: log out of ubuntu and log back in in "classic" mode.
13:43 mika___ windows doesnt like my hardware
13:43 thexyz mika___: log out of ubuntu & log into debian
13:43 VanessaE mika___: that should give you the old gnome desktop
13:43 gtrsdk_ mika___: you'd probably have to install gnome-panel
13:43 gtrsdk_ lol thexyz
13:43 PilzAdam mika___, do this and then do that
13:43 VanessaE mika___: and when you're done with that, do the other thing also.
13:44 gtrsdk_ if you get LXDE, then you can minimize to the taskbar thing
13:44 thexyz http://mate-desktop.org/
13:44 thexyz > MATE Desktop Environment, a non-intuitive and unattractive desktop for users, using traditional computing desktop metaphor. Also known as the GNOME2 fork.
13:45 mika___ ok, ill change to that 2d now
13:45 gtrsdk_ 2d isn't classic :-/
13:45 VanessaE I'm sorry, Canonical is doing the wrong thing here.
13:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, +1
13:45 gtrsdk_ +1
13:46 NekoGloop I'm sorry, my_ass.exe needs to close.
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13:46 VanessaE not only was unity a fucking boneheaded move (the tablet metaphor does not work for a desktop system)
13:47 mika___ i dont see a change. would remember 10.04 made a difference
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13:47 VanessaE mika___: go install xubuntu or kubuntu or something.
13:47 VanessaE http://www.kubuntu.org/
13:48 VanessaE http://xubuntu.org/
13:48 thexyz http://www.gentoo.org/
13:48 VanessaE they're ubuntu without the stupid.
13:48 sdzen http://blagblagblag.org/
13:48 jin_xi www.zombo.com
13:48 NekoGloop Lol
13:48 mika___ ok,  what was the difference, lubuntu is light but whats with the k and x?
13:48 gtrsdk_ http://debian.org <-- best option
13:48 thexyz sdzen: wtf is that shit?
13:48 bas080 http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/
13:49 sdzen it is shit
13:49 VanessaE gentoo?  heh.  -funroll_loops -Lricer -Dtype_r_sticker -Dracing_stripes -O9000 -Dsomeother_damn_thing
13:49 sdzen did you not read it?
13:49 gtrsdk_ MiJyn: k has KDE (will be slower)
13:49 thexyz mika___: lubuntu uses LXDE, kubuntu — KDE, xubuntu — xfce
13:49 gtrsdk_ err
13:49 thexyz VanessaE: don't have those
13:49 gtrsdk_ mika___: ^^^^
13:49 thexyz what am i doing wrong?
13:49 gtrsdk_ but you don't need to reinstall the OS to get those
13:50 thexyz you may also just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
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13:50 VanessaE gtrsdk_: he/she doesn't know how to install software at the low level (or xchat would not be an issue)
13:50 gtrsdk_ or apt-get install kde
13:50 thexyz same for lubuntu/xubuntu
13:50 VanessaE sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
13:50 gtrsdk_ oh right
13:50 sdzen apt-get install kddekadenz
13:50 VanessaE hey, punk'd by thexyz. :-)
13:50 sdzen i couldnt resist
13:50 VanessaE heh*
13:51 whirm VanessaE: :D I used to be a Gentoo user
13:51 VanessaE whirm: as was I :-)
13:51 whirm Until I noticed that debian was as fast (at least) than Gentoo
13:51 _2cool_ Does anyone know how to correctly pronounce Jeija?
13:51 VanessaE _2cool_: I guess "jeejah"
13:51 gtrsdk_ mika___: you can see screenshots of what they look like... like for LXDE, you can go to http://lxde.org/
13:52 _2cool_ I'll try it in my next vid
13:52 NekoGloop Ask 313hummer or look on his first part of mesecons review.
13:52 VanessaE whirm: for me, gentoo was marginally faster but not worth the headaches of building every damn thing
13:52 * whirm sighs when remembering 24h compilation times for openoffice
13:52 thexyz you can also just emerge libreoffice-bin
13:52 gtrsdk_ whirm: what hardware gave you 24h compiling? :o
13:53 thexyz same for firefox/chromium/some other things
13:53 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG-jIoSYVX4
13:53 whirm thexyz: that's just gay, why would you use gentoo if you don't compile everything with tons of absurd optimization flags?
13:53 _2cool_ Sounds like yeigha.
13:53 thexyz whirm: so you use gentoo only for compiling everything? why not LFS then?
13:54 thexyz for me its main advantage is use flags
13:54 mika___ now my minetest multiplayer works again, lets see how much damage has happened
13:55 whirm gtrsdk_: 900Mhz G3 IBook laptop :D
13:55 whirm gtrsdk_: I was joking :)
13:56 whirm one of these days I have to test Void Linux
13:56 whirm looks pretty cool
13:56 thexyz why can't people simply use popular distros?
13:57 sdzen because  they are all hipsters and need to be burned
13:57 sdzen :P
13:57 gtrsdk_ good thing I don't have many G3s then :)
13:57 mika___ thexyz, why cant people behave on multiplayer
13:58 whirm thexyz: yes, but at the end its not worth it
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13:59 thexyz maybe
13:59 whirm thexyz: with debian you end up installing some stuff you don't want
13:59 whirm but with gentoo you have the sources of everything installed on your system staying there...
14:00 whirm so debian is more space efficient at the end, and you can install localepurge to slim it a bit
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14:01 whirm but gentoo is cool otherwise, I was pretty happy with it
14:02 VanessaE whirm: you can clean out your distfiles directory on gentoo last I recall
14:03 VanessaE (I don't recall the full path though)
14:03 PilzAdam Ive invented a mineral detector: minetest.register_node(":default:stone", {drawtype = "airlike",})
14:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: someone else already did something similar a while back :-)
14:03 whirm VanessaE: yes, but then you need to get them back to upgrade anyway
14:03 * gtrsdk_ compiles stuff in Debian
14:04 gtrsdk_ ooh... kernel 3.6-rc3 is out
14:04 VanessaE 3.6?
14:04 VanessaE I'm still on 3.2
14:04 whirm gtrsdk_: I compile my kernel from git
14:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://www.zimg.eu/i/3767503097
14:05 whirm there are really few packages I need that aren't on debian sid/experimental
14:05 whirm mayble the lastest systemd
14:05 whirm and gimp
14:06 thexyz OH!
14:06 gtrsdk_ whirm: how often do you compile & install it?
14:06 thexyz i have found a man who needs systemd
14:06 whirm oh, and tribler
14:06 VanessaE wow
14:07 whirm gtrsdk_: it depends
14:07 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/ih0eA.png
14:07 whirm gtrsdk_: when I see btrfs or i915 updates mostly
14:07 NekoGloop Ew!
14:07 NekoGloop Minecraft, ick.
14:08 whirm thexyz: are you a systemd user too? :)
14:08 thexyz no
14:08 thexyz i thought nobody needs it
14:08 thexyz use OpenRC, btw
14:09 gtrsdk_ whirm: ah, so you use btrfs? is that on all drives?
14:10 whirm thexyz: I don't _need_ it :) but its _much_ faster than the regular init scripts
14:10 whirm and cleaner
14:10 VanessaE sfan5: that screenshot..what's it of?
14:10 sfan5 minecraft
14:10 VanessaE sorta looks like a vending machine
14:11 VanessaE yeah I know that :-)
14:11 sfan5 http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/minecraft-snapshot-12w34b/
14:11 sfan5 potatoes & carrots
14:12 VanessaE meh
14:12 VanessaE didn't we already have that a while back?
14:12 _2cool_ I think I should start Minetest Mod Showcases
14:12 sfan5 VanessaE: potatoes and carrots in minetest?
14:12 _2cool_ ehh?
14:12 _2cool_ oh, my bad
14:13 whirm gtrsdk_: http://paste.debian.net/185409/
14:13 jin_xi MESE carrots
14:13 VanessaE sfan5: yeah.  I mean we have other food items, why not those also?
14:13 _2cool_ Yes, MEES CARROTS
14:13 _2cool_ I finally figured out how to pronounce these things ;)
14:14 NekoGloop 2cool: review mesecons then toolsizes \:D/
14:14 gtrsdk_ cool
14:14 thexyz whirm: how long does it take to boot for you?
14:14 _2cool_ I'm going to do the Maze Mod first, good idea?
14:15 _2cool_ or no?
14:15 NekoGloop Hm...
14:15 VanessaE sure why not
14:15 VanessaE just don't forget my mods too :D
14:15 NekoGloop Do mesecons first, latest version needs a new vid
14:15 VanessaE oh yes
14:15 _2cool_ D'ohkay
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14:15 VanessaE most mesecons media is way outdates
14:15 VanessaE outdated*
14:15 _2cool_ Aww, my mesecons world has died...
14:15 NekoGloop Hm...
14:15 NekoGloop I have a mod idea
14:15 _2cool_ server exception error
14:16 NekoGloop But noone will want to use it...
14:16 mika__ installed this xubuntu now
14:16 VanessaE You do a nice video comparable to the last one Jeija did, I'll post it on the mesecons website
14:16 PilzAdam _2cool_, also review my carts, beds, ambience, farming...
14:16 _2cool_ Mother of...
14:16 _2cool_ Okay, one at a time here, let me start!
14:16 mika__ but i cant tell if it now is any better than original
14:16 VanessaE mesecons website:  http://mesecons.net23.net/
14:16 _2cool_ yes, it's very nice
14:16 NekoGloop Anyone want to hear my mod idea?
14:16 jin_xi NekoGloop: just make the mods you want to use
14:17 _2cool_ Okay, I'm going away for about 10 minutes
14:17 * gtrsdk_ wonders if he should make the jump from 3.4.7 to 3.6-rc3
14:17 VanessaE _2cool_: wait
14:17 _2cool_ wat
14:18 VanessaE _2cool_: can you re-do this?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=6kmeQj6iW5k
14:18 VanessaE that's the "official" video and is badly outdated.
14:18 NekoGloop Also
14:18 NekoGloop A video overview of microcontrollers would be nice
14:19 VanessaE NekoGloop: yes
14:19 mika__ vanessaE, is there a way to stop this bar at the bottom of xubuntu?
14:19 _2cool_ I'm almost ready, but having trouble with that video that vanessaE put up
14:20 VanessaE _2cool_: odd, works for me?
14:20 VanessaE mika__: right click, Panel -> Panel Preferences
14:20 _2cool_ Now it works, was having trouble putting the address in my browser
14:21 VanessaE Select whichever panel you want to work on with the dropdown at the top of the window ("Panel 0" or so)
14:21 VanessaE then drag it around, or hit the red (\) icon to delete it (don't do that yet)
14:22 NekoGloop I need a microphone ;_;
14:22 * PilzAdam gives NekoGloop one
14:22 NekoGloop No seriously
14:22 NekoGloop I need one
14:22 * PilzAdam gives NekoGloop another
14:23 PilzAdam :-)
14:23 NekoGloop ...
14:23 NekoGloop Unless you somehow mail it to me...
14:23 NekoGloop I dont want it
14:25 whirm thexyz: Startup finished in 3835ms (kernel) + 4976ms (userspace) = 8812ms
14:25 _2cool_ The mesecons battery won't gimme!
14:25 NekoGloop Battery is outdated
14:25 whirm thexyz: but it's because of a bug on the i915 driver, I lose 2 seconds kernel time resetting the gfx card
14:25 _2cool_ okayy
14:26 _2cool_ So what items, exactly, should I do?
14:26 whirm thexyz: in another laptop I have 1.1 kernel time and 3.9 user space time
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14:27 NekoGloop Just dont do battery plugs or sockets, they're all outdated
14:27 _2cool_ okay
14:27 thexyz that's pretty nice
14:27 VanessaE battery plugs?
14:27 NekoGloop Insert commas where needed
14:27 whirm thexyz: yes, I will report a bug for the intel driver I think
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14:29 Octupus hello
14:29 PilzAdam hi Octupus
14:29 _2cool_ Well, I have to go, I'll continue on this later
14:30 _2cool_ See you guys in about an hour
14:30 Octupus by
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14:36 mika__ now this xchat should work
14:36 NekoGloop Anyone want a mod that makes cactus harm you?
14:36 VanessaE no, no one would want THAT ;)
14:36 NekoGloop ...
14:37 NekoGloop Anyone?
14:37 mika__ i want a working server
14:38 mika__ what is the terminal sudo command to uninstall minetest
14:39 NekoGloop -be_an_ass
14:39 NekoGloop \:D/
14:40 whirm mika__: how have you installed minetest?
14:40 NekoGloop But seriously now, does anyone want my cactus damage mod?
14:41 mika__ downloaded it as a zip, then extracted and wrote some commands
14:41 whirm what commands?
14:42 whirm mika__: qmake and make?
14:42 mika__ cmake drun_in place
14:42 whirm did you execute "make install"?
14:42 mika__ and then some -j2
14:43 whirm ok, then you don't need to run any command from the console
14:43 whirm just delete the minetest folder you unzipped
14:43 mika__ ok
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14:45 whirm do you want to build the git version of minetest
14:45 whirm ?
14:46 mika__ can try
14:46 whirm is easy
14:46 whirm first: sudo apt-get install git
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14:47 whirm then: git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git
14:47 mika__ loading
14:47 whirm then:  cd minetest
14:47 whirm cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
14:48 whirm make -j2
14:48 whirm and you are done
14:48 mika__ which version is that?
14:48 thexyz latest
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14:49 iqualfragile you cann allso do -j 8 if you have 8 cores
14:49 thexyz damn
14:49 thexyz minetest.net is down
14:49 thexyz ..up again
14:50 mika__ there came some warning when i wrote that git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git
14:50 whirm mika__: what does it say?
14:50 mika__ WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-o8i8Wr/pkcs11: No such file or directory
14:50 whirm ah, np
14:50 mika__ cores?
14:50 whirm mika__: ignore it
14:51 whirm instead of make -j2 , do "make -j"
14:51 whirm with no numbers
14:51 whirm and it will use all the CPUS your computer has to compile
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14:53 mika__ ok
14:53 Keegan HELLO
14:53 VanessaE hi
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14:55 whirm mika__: once it finishes compiling run those commands:
14:55 Keegan whatca guys been up to
14:55 whirm cd games
14:55 whirm git clone  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
14:56 VanessaE working on pipeworks and other stuff
14:56 NekoGloop Aaaaanywaoy
14:56 Keegan I see I'm unban on forums
14:57 NekoGloop Ima leave now
14:57 NekoGloop Oh wait nvm
14:57 Keegan BackupCoder u there??
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14:59 VanessaE Keegan: yes.  you've acted appropriately so I expired it early.
14:59 Keegan ok thanks
15:03 Keegan gtg see you guys l8ter
15:07 mika__ whirm, you there?
15:07 whirm mika__: yes
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15:11 whirm Mika____: yes
15:12 Mika____ I logged in with my phone, the computer lags as f***. Warning 'void setBillboardTextureMatrix(irr::scene::IBillboardSceneNode* float, float, int, int)' defined but not used
15:12 mika__ now it seems to have built all, so it works again
15:13 whirm mika__: next time use -j2 instead of -j with no number :)
15:13 whirm if it lags it means minetest is too big to build all at once in your comp
15:13 mika__ the clock stood 4-5minutes, then it stopped twice for 2-3minutes
15:13 whirm XD
15:13 Calinou -j is horribly glitchy
15:13 whirm I gave you a bad advise
15:14 mika__ maybe my old 939 will last
15:16 mika__ whirm, anything else after git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game?
15:17 whirm no, you can use minetest as usual
15:17 mika__ ok
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15:28 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mods/More_Blocks
15:28 Calinou *happy face*
15:28 Calinou (still uploading renders)
15:31 thexyz that fuckton of width="150px" makes me sad
15:31 Calinou hi kddekadenz, long time no see :)
15:31 Calinou thexyz, why?
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15:32 Calinou maybe i should make a template
15:32 thexyz table seems to be broken too
15:32 Calinou yes i will fix this
15:32 thexyz i think you should make a template for mod info
15:32 thexyz that one with Mod Name:/Mod Folder Name:/etc
15:32 kddekadenz hi calinou, I will not be online here in the future
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15:32 Calinou why?
15:32 kddekadenz this weekend: ludum dare
15:32 kddekadenz after that I continue working on Kelgar
15:33 Calinou hmm... maybe I should rename the mod info "More Blocks/Stone Bricks" instead of "Mods/More Blocks/Stone Bricks", yes
15:33 Calinou will do
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15:39 Calinou image uploading done
15:42 Calinou PSA help is appreciated about documenting more blocks; see the default pages and adapt them for more blocks
15:42 Calinou example block: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stone
15:43 Calinou example item: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stick
15:44 mika__ whirm
15:44 whirm yes
15:44 mika__ can you tell why it looks like this http://aijaa.com/0099910771262
15:46 whirm not sure about it, have you tried not using a custom texture?
15:47 mika__ thats glomies server, occurs every now and then. single player works great
15:47 whirm ah
15:47 whirm then almost for sure you are missing pieces of the map
15:48 mika__ but it aint fun building all by yourself, tried another server yesterday. there was a similar problem.
15:48 mika__ and other server use some protocol version 11 and i have 12
15:48 Calinou minetest.conf
15:48 Calinou enable_texture_atlas = false
15:48 Calinou slows down the game a bit but prevents texture glitches
15:50 whirm mika__: I don't know much of minetest still, sorry, Try what Calinou says to see if it helps :)
15:50 mika__ where do i find conf file
15:50 mika__ calinou
15:50 Calinou in your minetest folder
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15:50 Calinou windows: where you extracted it
15:50 Calinou linux: ~/.minetest
15:50 Calinou (if self compiled, it can be in the folder where you installed it)
15:50 Calinou open it using a text editor
15:52 mika__ there isn't that option
15:52 Calinou add the line at the end of minetest.conf
15:52 Calinou then save
15:52 Calinou (quit the game first)
15:54 mika__ testing
15:56 NekoGloop Meow :3
15:58 Calinou WOOF
15:58 * Calinou eats neko259
15:58 Calinou oops.
15:58 Calinou he left
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16:00 Calinou hi
16:07 mika__ calinou, that enable_texture_atlas = false doesn't seem to work
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16:11 NekoGloop We need more uses for cacti, who's with me?
16:11 Calinou cactus brick/checker from moreblocks :D
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16:11 NakedFury find out what they can be used for in real life and try to add that
16:11 whirm NekoGloop: make a cacti-bazooka
16:11 Calinou lol, these are just extremely silly :p
16:11 NekoGloop ...
16:12 NekoGloop I was thinking like a powerful sword. Maybe even an abm that damages you
16:13 NekoGloop What do you think?
16:15 kddekadenz a cactus club or cactus juice
16:15 NekoGloop Hm..
16:15 NekoGloop Maybe make cactus fruit harvested rarely?
16:16 whirm and a cactus halucinogen drug
16:16 whirm and salad
16:16 whirm soup
16:17 whirm marmalade
16:17 jin_xi i think walking into cactus or attempt to mine it bare handed should hurt
16:18 NekoGloop I agree with jin_xi
16:18 saschaheylik whirm: u mean peyote?
16:18 whirm yes
16:18 NekoGloop And i think i know how to do that
16:18 NekoGloop But i'm on ipad atm
16:18 NekoGloop Cant actually make the mod :P
16:20 NekoGloop Hmmm...
16:20 NekoGloop I have an idea for mesecons.
16:21 NekoGloop Anyone seen the magnet piston in a minecraft mod?
16:21 saschaheylik no
16:21 NekoGloop Well...
16:21 NekoGloop It has four settings
16:22 NekoGloop When it is powered on, it functions like a normal piston, pushing the blocks.
16:23 NekoGloop But when it is powered off, it pulls an amount of blocks back, which is based on the setting of the magnet piston.
16:23 NekoGloop I would like to see this in minetest.
16:26 saschaheylik so its a sticky piston?
16:26 NekoGloop No
16:27 NekoGloop Its a sticky piston that can pull more blocks based on its setting
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16:39 PilzAdam who uses mesecons without /giveme ?
16:41 iqualfragile me
16:41 PilzAdam realy?
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16:43 NekoGloop asjk
16:43 NekoGloop wtf  lol
16:44 iqualfragile yeah, there is no cheating on my server
16:51 NekoGloop well... I will attempt to make a cactus mod
16:51 NekoGloop brb I'm gonna grow to hate lua even more in a few minutes.
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16:58 vicscandl meep
16:59 NekoGloop meep meep
16:59 saschaheylik meep meep meep
17:00 khonkhortisan meep meep meep meep
17:00 * vicscandl is stuck in ticket hell today...
17:00 FreeFull cornernote: I really like Skyblock as it is now
17:00 FreeFull It's more of a skysphere though =P
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17:05 leo_rockway vicscandl: I've had one of those a few days ago :S
17:20 neko259 Calinou: Hi, I'm here again :3
17:20 * Basstard` is stuck with Jethro Tull today...
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17:21 * NekoGloop pets neko259
17:24 vicscandl Basstard`: flippin hippies... i'm listening to Jerry Garcia Band today... :)
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17:27 neko259 NekoGloop: Hi.
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17:37 vicscandl leo_rockway: i just am pissed everyone waited till last night to push their tickets... meh
17:41 * VanessaE wanders back in
17:41 leo_rockway vicscandl: I hate when they wait till 10 minutes before my shift is over to send all the incidents.
17:41 leo_rockway then I have to stay and solve them :S
17:41 NakedFury they got together to play that prank on you visc
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17:42 mika__ is it possible to make glowing glass any other color than yellow?
17:42 Calinou in the more blocks mod, no
17:42 mika__ ok
17:43 Topic for #minetest is now An Infiniminer/Minecraft clone | http://minetest.net | Please be patient when asking questions; don't ask to ask.
17:44 * vicscandl asks to be an ass...
17:44 vicscandl *poof*
17:44 VanessaE ha!
17:44 Calinou :p
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17:44 Calinou VanessaE, http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/More Blocks
17:44 Calinou \o/
17:44 VanessaE I saw it
17:44 VanessaE so when are you gonna do the same with my mods? ;-)
17:44 Basstard` How patient do I have to be before I can ask a question?
17:45 NakedFury very
17:45 Calinou VanessaE, heh, it was about 30 minutes of work (making the list & uploading images & "drafting") already :P
17:45 VanessaE heh
17:45 Calinou documenting ALL the mod will take approx. 4 hours or so at least
17:45 Calinou so help is welcome
17:45 Calinou (see talk page)
17:46 VanessaE you using your .blend fines, or maybe cornernote's hack?
17:49 Calinou .blend files
17:49 Basstard` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMYQyhjiYA
17:49 VanessaE files rather.  yeah.
17:52 VanessaE cornernote's hack renders nodeboxes too :-)
17:53 Calinou brb
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17:54 * Calinou is trying out xchat's "conference" mode
17:56 Calinou seems to work 8)
17:57 VanessaE cool I guess :-)
17:59 Calinou sign that it works: no joins/parts/quits in #ubuntu in four minutes
18:04 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39399#p39399 - thexyz, WTF is a sql injection?
18:04 Calinou and why using ints suddenly helps? :P
18:06 VanessaE an sql injection is when someone writes a message, attempts a download, or does anything else that uses a server's mysql database, but formulates the query in such a way that it issues commands directly to mysql
18:06 VanessaE which might in turn do stuff like delete entries in the database, or perhaps gain root somehow, depends on the sql implementation, OS etc.
18:08 leo_rockway Bobby Tables
18:08 leo_rockway https://xkcd.com/327/
18:12 * vicscandl pulls out a large syringe with a red stencil: SQL-Injector
18:12 VanessaE haha
18:12 thexyz right
18:12 vicscandl leo_rockway: btw, that is one of my favorite xkcd's
18:12 Calinou k
18:12 VanessaE gotta love xkcd.
18:13 leo_rockway =]
18:13 vicscandl you see his "what if" blog yet?
18:13 thexyz Calinou: not using ints, converting strings to ints using somewhat like intval
18:13 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, and I had forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder!
18:13 vicscandl leo_rockway: its off the hook
18:13 Calinou xkcd is funny 1/10th of the time
18:15 VanessaE and insightful the other 9/10.
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18:16 mika__ is there any way of using lava controlled ?
18:16 VanessaE always put it in a small hole or trench?
18:16 VanessaE keep it away from flammables
18:16 Calinou not really
18:17 mika__ my plan is to flood my mine shaft
18:17 Calinou lol
18:17 Calinou maybe as lighting yes
18:18 mika__ dont know where they come from but everything that aint protected gets stolen, i have a wall around but they have made a tunnel to my mine and i cant find it
18:18 VanessaE mika__: install node protection or get the admin of the server to do it
18:19 mika__ but doesnt that just affect stones i put?
18:19 VanessaE no
18:19 VanessaE it affects the entire area you designate, whether you've built there or not
18:19 mika__ ok
18:19 VanessaE note I mean node protection, not node ownership.
18:19 mika__ ok
18:19 VanessaE (the one used on redcrab's server)
18:20 mika__ i'm on glomies
18:20 mika__ how was it with silver to make protects?
18:21 VanessaE ?
18:22 Calinou smelt silver ore > get silver ingots > make tools as usual
18:22 Calinou ???
18:22 leo_rockway I've seen videos of the nether, enchanting and brewing from MC. I think it's stupid o.o
18:22 Calinou PROFIT
18:22 Calinou leo_rockway, the enchanting used to suck a lot; it sucks a bit now. the brewing is stupid indeed though
18:22 mika__ protects, those blocks with green spots that protect everyblock on 5 block radius
18:22 Calinou the nether is ok
18:23 mika__ its as making a sandstone, 4 silver in a square makes 16 protects
18:24 Calinou ah
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18:37 GTRsdk since there's lego minecraft
18:38 GTRsdk it would be only fitting if there was Megabloks Minetest :D
18:38 VanessaE ha
18:38 khonkhortisan there isn't a lego minecraft, look at the dimensions
18:39 saschaheylik maybe its lego-similar
18:39 VanessaE there is a lego set
18:39 saschaheylik right
18:39 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Minecraft
18:40 khonkhortisan they look like they connect, but with a floor of legos the dots aren't evenly separated
18:42 khonkhortisan oh. that's a different one.
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18:50 _2cool_ Anyone know the Giveme code for minetest lightstone?
18:51 khonkhortisan /giveme mesecons_lightstone:lightstone_gray_off
18:51 khonkhortisan or red, green, darkgray
18:52 _2cool_ Thanks, couldn't find it through the init.lua.
18:53 khonkhortisan I could
18:54 _2cool_ Well, I'm not as good as you
18:55 _2cool_ I'll be gone for a few more minutes now.
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19:05 * NekoGloop sees the topis
19:05 NekoGloop topic*
19:05 NekoGloop Can i ask a question? :3
19:06 thexyz lol
19:06 NekoGloop No seriously
19:06 thexyz who the fuck did set it?
19:06 NekoGloop Did anyone else think that magnet pistons in minetest is a good idea?
19:07 NekoGloop thexyz: Calinou
19:07 NekoGloop I can tell on my client.
19:08 Topic for #minetest is now Please be patient when asking questions; someone may not be around. | Main website: http://minetest.net | Development channel: #minetest-delta
19:09 VanessaE magnet pistons?  how would that differ from a sticky piston?
19:11 khonkhortisan the number of blocks it can pull back is between a sticky piston and a normal piston
19:11 hmmmm thexyz, you put in a lua jit-ter and it didn't help much, you say?
19:13 NekoGloop Uh...
19:14 NekoGloop It pulls back blocks = its power setting
19:14 NekoGloop So on setting 4 it pulls 4 blocks back, setting 3 it pulls 3, etc.
19:15 NekoGloop Search "minecraft magnet piston" in youtube, you'll see what i mean.
19:31 khonkhortisan I don't have enough µCs yet http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7852697510/in/photostream/lightbox/
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19:36 NekoGloop This is not an ipad
19:36 NekoGloop This is an ishit
19:38 Basstard` iShat
19:39 NekoGloop uBasstard
19:43 * vicscandl call's up Apple's lawyers to iSue you...
19:44 Basstard` iWin
19:44 vicscandl iBummed
19:44 NekoGloop iBored
19:44 NekoGloop I'm playing lunacraft :P
19:44 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBlQS7ccFgw
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19:54 Isabella im excited!
19:55 _2cool_ For?
19:55 Isabella the fair
19:55 Isabella im going tonight
19:55 _2cool_ nice
19:55 Isabella im going on a ride called freakout
19:55 _2cool_ Nice
19:55 Isabella i cant wait
19:56 _2cool_ Have fun!
19:56 Isabella thx
20:00 jin_xi ^^^ freakout
20:05 whirm XD
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21:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
21:33 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam
21:34 * PilzAdam pokes back
21:34 * NekoGloop pokes again :3
21:36 PilzAdam news?
21:37 NekoGloop Of what?
21:38 PilzAdam MInetest
21:38 NekoGloop ...?
21:38 NekoGloop My mods?
21:38 PilzAdam anything
21:38 NekoGloop Ok
21:38 NekoGloop I've decided to make a cactus mod, which gives cacti all kinds of uses.
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21:39 _2cool_ Ugh, recording commentary is so difficult
21:39 NekoGloop Cactus fruit will be randomly obtained from cacti. This heals a heart and a half.
21:39 PilzAdam Hi _2cool_
21:39 _2cool_ hello
21:40 PilzAdam you got new vids?
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21:41 _2cool_ No, I actally got one sorta done, but Hypercam mucked up the A/V sync
21:42 khonkhortisan xvidcap doesn't record sound, it still tries to use /dev/dsp
21:42 VanessaE you should always use a separate application to record audio and then combine them in a good video editor
21:42 _2cool_ It worked on that first video...
21:42 khonkhortisan then how do you start them at the same time?
21:42 _2cool_ And it's okay, I messed up anyway
21:42 VanessaE you don't bother.  you use the video editor to correct the A/V sync later.
21:42 _2cool_ I won't bother uploading the fail
21:42 NekoGloop A cactus sword (may be a club, depends on how the graphic looks) will be made from 2 cactus and a stick
21:43 PilzAdam please no more swords, picks, axes, shovels
21:43 NekoGloop (note that only the sword will be made)
21:43 VanessaE make it a mace. :-)
21:43 VanessaE after all, cacti are covered in spines/needles
21:43 NekoGloop Club then
21:44 NekoGloop I'm too lazy to edit it that much
21:44 PilzAdam make cactus arrows for my bow mod
21:44 PilzAdam they let new cacti grow
21:44 NekoGloop Well...
21:44 _2cool_ I'll try again later.
21:44 NekoGloop I was thinking of like darts or something
21:44 NekoGloop Using a stick and cactus fruit
21:45 PilzAdam btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cactus
21:46 NekoGloop Thank you, i really didnt know what a cactus was...
21:46 NekoGloop [/sarcasm]
21:47 _2cool_ Maybe I should try camstudio
21:50 NekoGloop Hm... Dragon fruit grow on cacti? ...
21:51 NekoGloop Interesting...
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21:56 NekoGloop Should i make that an incredibly rare drop?
21:57 _2cool_ Ooh, are we talking about mobs?
21:57 NekoGloop No
21:57 _2cool_ oh
21:57 NekoGloop I'm talking about my cactus mod which is unreleased
21:57 _2cool_ Okay
21:58 _2cool_ Do they hurt you when you mine them with your hands?
21:58 _2cool_ Because that's something Minecraft doesn't have
21:58 NekoGloop Currently you are hurt when touching them
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21:58 _2cool_ Sounds right
21:58 NakedFury touching them with hands should hurt
21:59 NekoGloop Workin on it
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21:59 NakedFury I need to edit their nodebox to be smaller
21:59 NakedFury so I can use minecraft texture normally on them
21:59 Kant redcrab, online?
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22:00 NekoGloop Ok irc crashed did anyone say anything?
22:00 _2cool_ My Atlas, apparently, is full. I don't get the correct Powerplant textures...
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22:05 _2cool_ Was it something I said?
22:05 * MiJyn is back (gone 16:26:43)
22:06 VanessaE _2cool_: disable the texture atlas
22:06 VanessaE in your minetest.conf, add:  enable_texture_atlas = false
22:06 VanessaE (stop the game before you edit the file)
22:07 NekoGloop Well
22:07 Kant Redcrab your server crashed now 5 times in 1h
22:07 VanessaE I disabled the thing ages ago because it doesn't work on my setup anyway
22:08 _2cool_ I saw what happened when Minetest runs on a slow computer today, it was pretty cool
22:08 NakedFury what is that atlas anyway?
22:08 NekoGloop It holds textures
22:08 NekoGloop Basically giant sprite sheet
22:08 PilzAdam a big picture that contains all little textures of the nodes
22:09 NakedFury anything performance wise to being on or off?
22:09 NekoGloop And for some reason the generated cube sprite of each node glitches
22:09 _2cool_ As it adds the texturs to the atlas, Minetest shows them all on the lower left of the screen. On a slow computer, you get to see every texture in the game
22:10 NekoGloop Nope
22:10 VanessaE I've never seen it do that, _2cool_
22:10 _2cool_ Power Plant still doesn't look right
22:10 NekoGloop That's just it loading them -from- the atlas (and putting them in it if neccessary)
22:10 PilzAdam _2cool_, if i see this on my computer there are texture glitches
22:11 _2cool_ Oh
22:12 _2cool_ Ahh, icechat
22:12 NekoGloop Dat part message
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22:12 VanessaE _2cool_: under what conditions have you seen this texture loading happen?
22:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: When havent you?
22:12 brandon__ i got a problem when trying to load a file in world edit it says its not allowd to place?
22:13 _2cool_ It's a really old computer, this is the only time it's happened, or I've ever run it
22:13 NekoGloop Dont switch windows at all while loading up a world in minetest
22:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: it doesn't appear in Linux.
22:13 _2cool_ I'll turn off the atlas next time
22:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, i see them if a load and exit many worlds without closing minetest
22:13 VanessaE just a black window and status report in the middle
22:14 NekoGloop After that
22:14 VanessaE nope
22:15 NekoGloop It flashes between every graphic ingame
22:15 _2cool_ Animated ones, animate.
22:15 NekoGloop THEN GET ON WINDOWS \:D/
22:15 VanessaE not for me.
22:15 VanessaE just a black window until the game is ready to actually start
22:16 brandon__ i need help and windows sucks!
22:16 brandon__ i cant load files in world edit?
22:17 _2cool_ We'll need more information than that, and please don't come in here and rage next time ;)
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22:18 brandon__ ok i cant load the snkight
22:18 brandon__ from the forums
22:18 _2cool_ Any error?
22:19 _2cool_ I can go far enough to help others help you, but I don't know what about worldedit
22:19 brandon__ just abunch of errors
22:20 _2cool_ I can only help others help you.
22:20 _2cool_ What version is the map built with?
22:20 brandon__ idk i dled it from the thing it says cant replace stone and air
22:21 VanessaE brandon__: exactly what does the error say?  copy and paste the error messgae
22:21 VanessaE do not summarize it.
22:21 _2cool_ Or put it in pastebin if it's really long
22:21 brandon__ VanessaE, how the fuck do i do that
22:22 _2cool_ Language, plox
22:22 VanessaE um
22:22 VanessaE start by not being nasty
22:22 VanessaE then figure out how to do normal copy&paste operations on your computer - this is basic computer usage 101 here.
22:23 _2cool_ Can you paste from a error box? I forget
22:23 _2cool_ (/stupidity)
22:23 brandon__ lol i cannot copy from minetest
22:23 VanessaE copy from your error console
22:23 VanessaE (the game should have opened one when you launched it)
22:24 brandon__ VanessaE, i use linux?
22:24 VanessaE ok
22:24 VanessaE open a terminal
22:24 VanessaE launch minetest from it
22:24 VanessaE make it produce the error again
22:24 VanessaE then copy and paste.
22:25 brandon__ ok i tried that noting comes up
22:25 NakedFury check debug.txt from the bin folder
22:25 VanessaE then you did it wrong :-)_
22:26 VanessaE brandon__: you "tried that".  tried what?
22:26 VanessaE something would have come up.
22:26 brandon__ nope
22:26 VanessaE um
22:27 VanessaE what exactly did you do?
22:27 VanessaE did you open a terminal?
22:27 brandon__ hold on
22:28 brandon__ :28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,10,-59) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,9,-60) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,9,-61) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,8,-62) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (46,7,-62) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (46,6,-63) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,5,-64) (block (2,0,-4))
22:28 thexyz stop it
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone_with_coal" at (41,6,-68) (block (2,0,-5))
22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH!
22:28 brandon__ 14:28:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone_with_coal" at (40,6,-68) (block (2,0,-5))
22:28 khonkhortisan your block is not loaded
22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH!
22:28 _2cool_ Stop! you'll get K-lined!
22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH!
22:29 brandon__ ohk ohk god god
22:29 khonkhortisan or your replacement is not registered
22:29 brandon__ GUYS I COPIED AND PASTED
22:29 khonkhortisan it's a fairly common error
22:29 _2cool_ It's okay
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22:29 VanessaE brandon: you implied a single error message, not a whole book :-)
22:29 brandon__ k
22:29 _2cool_ I had this quite a bit
22:29 khonkhortisan your lines came in groups it looked like you were pasting multiple times
22:29 _2cool_ How much are yyou trying to set?
22:29 brandon__ khonkhortisan, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
22:30 brandon__ idk i dled a knight statue
22:30 _2cool_ How many nodes are you trying to set?
22:30 brandon__ idk?
22:30 brandon__ lol
22:30 brandon__ ?
22:30 khonkhortisan either you're trying to place something where the world isn't loaded or your trying to create something that doesn't exist
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22:30 _2cool_ stone_with_coal is not a real item
22:30 khonkhortisan most likely it's the wrong node name
22:31 brandon__ so wtf does that mean?
22:31 VanessaE brandon, what is the sequence of commands you are running?
22:31 VanessaE (the worldedit commands you are typing)
22:32 brandon__ /pos1 and //load sknight
22:32 brandon__ /pos!
22:32 brandon__ no / /pos1
22:32 _2cool_ Then
22:32 khonkhortisan default:stone_with_coal is a real item
22:32 VanessaE did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you tried to load sknight?
22:32 _2cool_ t'is?
22:33 NekoGloop What irc are you on to have those not be autorecognized as commands.? :o
22:33 khonkhortisan yes, default/init.lua line 717
22:33 brandon__ NekoGloop,
22:33 brandon__ xchat
22:33 brandon__ /pos!
22:33 VanessaE /pos1
22:33 VanessaE //pos1
22:33 VanessaE there.
22:33 khonkhortisan I just do //p set
22:33 RealBadAngel pwned
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22:34 VanessaE oops
22:34 VanessaE note to self: remind fingers that Ctrl-W closes a tab. :-)
22:34 RealBadAngel hehhe
22:35 khonkhortisan it doesn't open a new window
22:35 RealBadAngel i just said
22:35 _2cool_ anyway?
22:35 RealBadAngel pwned
22:35 brandon__ so what dooo oi do
22:35 NekoGloop You stop making yourself sound like a noob
22:35 VanessaE brandon__: did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you loaded sknight?
22:35 _2cool_ Bad neko, bad
22:36 NekoGloop Meow? :o
22:37 * RealBadAngel is playin The Great Commandment again
22:37 brandon__ ok thats wierd apparently its building just hlasf way
22:38 VanessaE brandon__: did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you loaded sknight?
22:39 brandon__ lol wtf its upsie down?
22:40 _2cool_ Please use good grammar and spelling, it makes it easier for us to help you
22:40 Basstard` _2cool_: You forgot something.
22:41 _2cool_ The period?
22:46 VanessaE bbl
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22:53 _2cool_ mmm that was good food
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23:00 NekoGloop Lol 2cool
23:00 _2cool_ took you long enough
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