Time Nick Message 00:08 * khonkhortisan just noticed the subject 00:08 NakedFury what is today? 00:08 NekoGloop Today is pull your hair out day 00:20 * GTRsdk reads the topic 00:22 khonkhortisan INFO: izua joined a channel before cloak activation 00:22 izua OH SHIT you know my ip 00:22 khonkhortisan yep 00:22 izua my ocmputer is gonna die 00:23 khonkhortisan depends on what you run on it 00:23 izua oh shit GTRsdk is already checking my client 00:23 izua i'm fucked 00:23 izua duuude.. no. 00:23 izua just no 00:23 izua just ask me what editor i use 00:23 izua or if derps and better than herps 00:23 izua but no linux vs windows 00:24 khonkhortisan vs mac vs bsd vs sun vs... 00:24 GTRsdk Linux or BSD are potential winners 00:24 khonkhortisan all I need is to send you to a website with an ip logger, it's not hard to get 00:24 GTRsdk you can't easily get my IP address >:D 00:25 izua it's not like you can do a whole lot with an ip though 00:25 izua a lot of people run their internet connection through a router 00:25 GTRsdk you could: DDoS, try SSH root, or something else 00:25 izua well 00:25 khonkhortisan I found out having a desktop enviroment runs trojans when suffixed with .desktop 00:25 khonkhortisan no execute bit necessary 00:26 izua neat 00:40 khonkhortisan Does anyone know how to make a mesecon clock that's persistent across server restarts that doesn't involve the use of a blinky plant? 00:40 NekoGloop Uh... 00:41 NekoGloop I'll get back to you on that one... 00:42 Isabella :P im still tired, i had to stin a deck, well part of it 00:42 BicycleRepairMan 02:42:00 :P im still tired <-me too :-O 00:42 khonkhortisan I guess a blinky plant blinks fast enough for my purposes 00:44 Isabella hmm 00:44 Isabella hahaha 00:46 Isabella hmmmmmmm 00:46 BicycleRepairMan hmmmmm 00:47 Octupus HMMMMMMMMMM 00:47 Octupus :) 00:47 BicycleRepairMan HMmMmMmMmMm 00:48 Octupus HMmMMmMMmMMmMMmMM 00:48 BicycleRepairMan ok you win :D 00:49 NekoGloop Is that the sound your girlfriend's car makes or her? 00:50 Octupus no he sound like UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 00:50 Octupus zSHE 00:50 Octupus SHE 00:50 Octupus SHE 00:51 khonkhortisan if I have a big rectangle filled with µCs, with two types of programming, I want a way to tell where the programming differs at a glance. I'm thinking of adding the delayer display on top of the chip, graphically displaying the length of the programming. 00:51 Isabella why 00:51 Isabella wow i meant 00:51 Isabella how do you change nickname??? 00:52 NekoGloop ... /nick newnam 00:52 Tengri its time for a short name 00:52 NekoGloop newname* 00:52 Tengri well 00:52 Isabella ok 00:53 newname what the 00:53 Tengri ok :D 00:53 NekoGloop Just replace newname with your newname 00:53 khonkhortisan it's actually possible to get race conditions with mesecons 00:53 newname hahaha oops 00:53 newname ok 00:53 LoL huh 00:53 NekoGloop No! 00:53 NekoGloop Not league of legends! 00:53 LoL whut 00:53 Guest37882 its going to go away 00:54 wiredest arrgggh 00:54 wiredest hahahaha 00:54 wiredest-of-wire :P arrggh 00:55 NekoGloop Lol 00:56 NekoGloop Pick one and stay with it 00:56 Tengri i see, she has fun 00:57 Isabella wait 00:57 Tengri oh thats new ;D 00:57 UbuntuNerd hehehehe :) 00:57 NekoGloop LOL 00:57 Tengri are you play on redcrabs server? 00:57 Tengri Nerdi 00:58 UbuntuNerd no m13.sytes.net 00:58 UbuntuNerd or 00:58 khonkhortisan I added a display to the µC by adding a transparent texture on top of it, but it causes the inventory image to turn white 00:58 madchicken13 poor you 00:59 madchicken13 bye bye 01:00 Isabella bye 01:00 NekoGloop Lol 01:01 Tengri its time to sleep, good nigth 01:01 khonkhortisan What causes a white inventory image and how do I fix it? 01:01 saschaheylik_ Octupus: mese 01:01 Octupus banana 01:01 saschaheylik_ now, i would make a facebook page 01:02 saschaheylik_ and then we gather people who like facebook 01:02 saschaheylik_ and have a bunch of friends 01:02 saschaheylik_ and tell them to like it 01:02 Octupus yes 01:02 saschaheylik_ which then, hopefull produces a > 100% sharing rate 01:02 saschaheylik_ then we have an audience 01:02 saschaheylik_ which we can ask to give us money 01:02 NekoGloop Just make a freakin facebook page 01:03 Octupus so we can grain profit 01:03 saschaheylik_ ok ok 01:03 NekoGloop People search for minecraft might find minetest 01:03 saschaheylik_ xD 01:03 Octupus u want me to make it or u 01:03 saschaheylik_ no i will 01:03 Octupus ok 01:03 khonkhortisan woo texture corruption! 01:03 Octupus il be the first liker :) 01:04 saschaheylik_ Octupus: yay 01:04 NekoGloop I'll just kinda sorta not like it since i dont want to share my name ;) 01:04 saschaheylik_ is this an "App page", "Games/Toys" or "Software" 01:04 NekoGloop Games/toys 01:04 saschaheylik_ NekoGloop: why? thats a nice project 01:05 NekoGloop Hm? 01:05 saschaheylik_ Fuck off "You're temporarily blocked from using this feature. " 01:05 NekoGloop ? 01:05 saschaheylik_ idk facebook don't like me 01:06 NekoGloop But you like it--*shot* 01:06 Octupus lol sas 01:06 saschaheylik_ no i fucking hate it 01:06 saschaheylik_ such a stupid bitch site 01:07 NekoGloop Meh 01:07 saschaheylik_ only reason i stayed on there was because of marketing using pages 01:07 saschaheylik_ now because i gotta talk to people who dont use other shit much 01:08 saschaheylik_ and not make any money 01:08 Octupus u want me to start it? 01:09 saschaheylik_ depends on how much you know about marketing on facebook 01:10 Octupus Nada 01:10 saschaheylik_ i guess i cant make another facebook account because they want your phone number now 01:10 NekoGloop They do? :o 01:10 saschaheylik_ yes seems like it 01:11 saschaheylik_ dont think there was a button to some other option 01:11 saschaheylik_ at least in austria 01:11 saschaheylik_ or.. at least for my ip lol 01:12 Octupus hmmm 01:12 Octupus did u sign up new? 01:12 saschaheylik_ i made a second acc under a different name to try a bug which lets you get 5k friends... they didnt like that 01:13 saschaheylik_ had to use same phone number 01:13 saschaheylik_ guess thats how they made that connection 01:13 saschaheylik_ smart people they are 01:13 saschaheylik_ little bitches nonetheless 01:13 Octupus make a random 7 digit number 01:13 saschaheylik_ no they send you a PIN 01:14 saschaheylik_ Zuckerberg's Privacy Stance: Facebook CEO 'Doesn't Believe In Privacy' 01:14 Octupus hmm what about i make a email using your email 01:15 saschaheylik_ im not sure what you mean 01:15 Octupus srry how about i use your email to make a fb 01:16 saschaheylik_ youd have to make a new email at hushmail for example 01:16 saschaheylik_ and then give me the password for that and the fb 01:16 saschaheylik_ also the phone number you use has to not be associated to any accounts 01:16 saschaheylik_ if they ask for that 01:17 Octupus k 01:17 saschaheylik_ which may depend on if your ip is associated with any other accs 01:17 Octupus not in honduras no 01:18 saschaheylik_ great 01:18 Octupus so il make 1 01:18 Octupus and u can do that stuff 01:18 saschaheylik_ oh no it wasnt my ip i used tor 01:19 saschaheylik_ ok 01:20 khonkhortisan how to I convert a decimal number from 0 to 16 into a binary number from 0000 to 1111 in lua? 01:20 Octupus celebrity or business 01:20 Octupus or ban sas 01:21 Octupus or normal account 01:22 saschaheylik_ i think you can use your facebook acc to make a page and make me admin on it 01:22 Octupus ok 01:26 Octupus sas what u want me to make it as 01:26 Octupus business 01:27 saschaheylik_ product 01:27 Octupus company 01:27 saschaheylik_ or entertainment? 01:27 Octupus brand 01:27 Octupus so product or entertainemnt 01:27 saschaheylik_ product, i guess 01:28 Octupus i put it as games/toys 01:28 NekoGloop Yeah games/toys makes sense 01:29 saschaheylik_ and then make me http://www.facebook.com/sheylik admin 01:29 Octupus Software then 01:29 saschaheylik_ no games 01:29 saschaheylik_ or no 01:29 saschaheylik_ software 01:29 saschaheylik_ right 01:29 saschaheylik_ i guess they mean board games? 01:30 Octupus software? 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:30 NakedFury a minetest facebook page 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:30 NakedFury thats an excellent idea 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:30 NakedFury more promotion 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:30 NakedFury yes man! 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:30 saschaheylik_ yes 01:31 NekoGloop More promotion so that griefers from minecraft see a new thing to tear apart 01:31 Octupus so software or product/serive 01:31 NekoGloop Good job! (not really) 01:31 Octupus *service 01:31 saschaheylik_ software 01:31 saschaheylik_ do it 01:31 NakedFury it is good because that helps us find the problems faster 01:31 saschaheylik_ and gets us more coders 01:32 saschaheylik_ and maybe money 01:32 saschaheylik_ to give us time to work on it 01:32 saschaheylik_ and the ability to hire help 01:32 saschaheylik_ and of course feedback 01:34 saschaheylik_ if we build a game based on what the customers "need" it will sell like jaffa cakes to simon.. or louis... or both.. idk 01:40 Octupus page is done sas 01:41 saschaheylik_ and then make me http://www.facebook.com/sheylik admin 01:42 saschaheylik_ can you do that? 01:42 saschaheylik_ i hope you can 01:42 saschaheylik_ brb getting some peaches 01:42 Octupus k 01:45 Octupus i cant figure out to finish the page with this comment and liking stuff ;l 01:46 saschaheylik_ just make me admin 01:46 Octupus im trying 01:46 Octupus I GOT IT 01:46 Octupus ok how i add admin now? 01:47 saschaheylik_ idk 01:47 saschaheylik_ maybe google "how to add admin facebook page" 01:47 Octupus lol 01:49 Octupus sas add me on fb 01:49 saschaheylik_ link to your profile? 01:51 saschaheylik_ or your fb name... 01:52 Octupus just type john bodden pic of elmo 01:52 saschaheylik_ request sent 01:53 Octupus k 01:53 Octupus sascha 01:54 saschaheylik_ yes? 01:54 Octupus ok making sure 01:55 Octupus u a guy right 01:55 saschaheylik_ yes 01:55 Octupus ok 02:03 Octupus sas i invitied u to my page 02:05 saschaheylik_ ok i liked it 02:06 saschaheylik_ can you make me admin now? 02:06 saschaheylik_ damn im hungry 02:06 Octupus there u go friend u a admin 02:06 saschaheylik_ ok thx 02:06 saschaheylik_ brb 02:57 khonkhortisan reasking: dec to bin in lua? 03:10 NakedFury lua: 03:11 NakedFury function dectobin(x) local r="" for i=0, 7 do r = (x % 2^i)..r x = x - (x % 2^1) end return tonumber(r) end 03:12 NakedFury http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=56390654 03:12 NakedFury found it there 03:12 NakedFury can that help? 03:14 khonkhortisan I saw that, they didn't seem to sure of their answers. I got it working my way, I'll try that way because it's shorter. 03:18 khonkhortisan this is what I needed it for http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848533240/in/photostream/lightbox/ 03:19 khonkhortisan the display is based on the length of the programming, so you can have a grid of µCs and still see where your circuit is different 03:20 NakedFury interesting 03:24 cornernote hi 03:24 cornernote can you have a formspec type thing popup without clicking a node ? 03:24 khonkhortisan A non-working example demonstrating the usefulness: http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848558836/in/photostream/lightbox/ 03:24 cornernote eg, can a mod just popup a window to a player for some random reason (eg, a timer or something)? 03:25 khonkhortisan isn't a timer already in a node? 03:25 cornernote its not for a timer 03:25 cornernote i dont want a node 03:25 cornernote i want a popup 03:25 cornernote like "Hello Player, 10 seconds have passed" 03:26 cornernote not when they dig a node 03:26 khonkhortisan if you want to say that you can just use minetest.chat_send_player(name, text) 03:26 khonkhortisan or chat_send_alll 03:26 cornernote khonkhortisan - i made a model of a 7-led number display .. but i have to program it 03:26 cornernote no, not a chat... its a popup where they have to click OK 03:26 khonkhortisan I haven't made an adder yet, just a font machine 03:27 cornernote i made a halfadder in 1 mc 03:27 cornernote so an adder will just be 1 more of those 03:27 cornernote but carring the remainder of the 1st one 03:27 * khonkhortisan still has to read up on half-adders 03:28 cornernote yeah, it wasnt easy to understand 03:28 cornernote easier to build than to understand 03:28 cornernote heres the halfadder: off(C,D)if(A~B)on(C);if(A&B)on(D);: A and B are inputs, C and D are outputs 03:29 cornernote i can explain it if you like ? 03:29 cornernote its easier to understand once you build it 03:29 cornernote cos you can watch the circuits 03:30 cornernote and follow the logic gates 03:30 khonkhortisan that dectobin is very similar to mine 03:31 cornernote if(A~B) <<-- this is the xor gate 03:31 khonkhortisan what would you put after a half-adder? 03:31 cornernote if(A&B) << -- this is the AND gate 03:31 khonkhortisan C is 1, D is 2 03:31 cornernote off at the start just ensures it turns it off before starting 03:32 cornernote yes, i think so 03:32 khonkhortisan why? Can't you just do sbi(C,A~B)sbi(D,A&B) ? 03:32 cornernote i didnt know what sbi did 03:32 khonkhortisan it's a copy, pretty much 03:32 cornernote but if that does the same thing, sure 03:33 cornernote will it handle the initial off(C,D) ? 03:33 khonkhortisan sbi(A,C)sbi(B,D) is useful for two non-intersecting one-way wires 03:33 khonkhortisan for sbi, if the condition is true, the wire will be on. If the condition is false, the wire will be off. 03:33 cornernote what would you put after a half-adder? ..... you mean, like a light/piston/etc ? 03:33 cornernote ok, nice 03:34 khonkhortisan to make a full adder 03:34 cornernote whats sbi stand for ? 03:34 khonkhortisan I don't know :) 03:34 cornernote to make a full adder, i havent done it yet 03:34 cornernote have a look here 03:34 khonkhortisan the language interpreter is in the same file as the node definition 03:34 cornernote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adder_(electronics) 03:34 cornernote its basically 2 half adders 03:34 cornernote with an extra logic gate 03:35 cornernote one of the outputs of the 1st halfadder goes to one input in the 2nd one 03:35 khonkhortisan I can't read circuitry xors and ands anymore 03:35 cornernote why? 03:35 cornernote you mean you dont know which gate to use ? 03:35 cornernote sec... 03:36 cornernote the additional gate is an OR gate 03:36 khonkhortisan okay 03:36 cornernote so, 2 halfadders + an OR gate 03:36 cornernote but i think the OR gate can be built into one of the halfadders 03:36 cornernote in the mc 03:36 khonkhortisan Can you type a µ? 03:37 cornernote no 03:37 khonkhortisan I like fancy characters 03:37 cornernote i can copy/paste it 03:37 cornernote µ 03:37 cornernote but no key for it on my keyboard 03:37 cornernote maybe some key combo will give it, dunno 03:37 khonkhortisan I set up a compose key 03:37 cornernote yeah, i have a g15, i can set a macro for it 03:38 cornernote so, no way to popup a formspec without digging a node ? 03:38 khonkhortisan idk. if there isn't a way the way should be made 03:41 khonkhortisan I haven't even made the node-based gui yet 03:42 cornernote what do you mean ? 03:42 cornernote node based gui for what? 03:42 khonkhortisan for anything, I haven't asked the player anything or made any popups. I've only printed to command line and broadcasted chat. 03:43 cornernote i did craft_guide which needed an inventory 03:43 cornernote that was my 1st mod =) 03:43 khonkhortisan craft_guide is very useful 03:43 cornernote thanks 03:44 khonkhortisan that's how I found out how to make a strawberry bush from strawberries 03:44 cornernote still has a problem, but hopefully next MT release will patch those issues 03:44 cornernote some items cant be looked up, if they are in internal quotes... '"mod:item" 5' 03:44 khonkhortisan what, that you have to put the item back before you can look at another one? 03:45 khonkhortisan yes I saw that mentioned somewhere 03:45 cornernote no, you just drop it ontop 03:45 cornernote but the old one may go back into your cursor 03:45 cornernote then you just dump it up the top 03:45 cornernote other issue is multiple recipes make the same output 03:46 cornernote eg, a door makes a right-door, and a right-door makes a door 03:46 cornernote but how do you make a door from wood!? 03:46 khonkhortisan you have to sort by both source and output maybe 03:46 cornernote both are issues with the engine not giving me the info needed 03:46 cornernote needs a next/prev recipe button 03:47 cornernote have you tried skyblock yet ? 03:47 khonkhortisan and sorting by mod/alphabetic/number of item required if you want to be really featurefull 03:47 khonkhortisan no 03:47 cornernote and searching by item name 03:47 cornernote that would be HOT 03:48 khonkhortisan cobblestone generator? 03:48 cornernote skyblock is very minimal, but it has crafts to make all the default items... its really fun cos you can multiply a small number of blocks to a huge kingdom in the sky 03:49 cornernote put on the ground like this: lava + air + water 03:49 cornernote the air will become stone 03:49 cornernote mine it 03:49 cornernote it will becme stone again 03:49 cornernote repeat 03:49 khonkhortisan I'll just craft a piston 03:49 cornernote to do what ? 03:49 khonkhortisan to make a bridge generator 03:50 cornernote how ? 03:50 cornernote stack of blocks, and it pushes them out and out and out 03:50 cornernote and what refills it ? 03:50 cornernote after each push 03:50 khonkhortisan piston pushes cobble away from the generator, piston moves back, the cobble is recreatod from lava and water 03:51 cornernote ahh 03:51 cornernote wow, nice 03:51 cornernote long as the piston plunger is non-flamable 03:51 khonkhortisan then with more pistons, you can make it two-dimensional for a bridge 03:52 khonkhortisan even if a piston can only push so many blocks, just zigzag with multiple pistons 03:52 cornernote can you do it and make a screenshot for the game page on the forums ? 03:52 khonkhortisan I don't have a cobble generator 03:52 cornernote skyblock 03:52 cornernote sec.. 03:52 cornernote u want the code, or the game ? 03:53 khonkhortisan uh I'll just get it myself 03:53 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/blob/master/register_abm.lua#L161 03:53 cornernote line 161 down to line 190 03:54 khonkhortisan so if the lava flows first it doesn't work? 03:54 cornernote still works 03:54 cornernote the lava_flowing will turn to stone 03:54 khonkhortisan oh. that first one is flowing 03:54 cornernote -- lava_flowing next to water_source will turn to stone 03:55 cornernote 1 note... 03:55 cornernote lava_source + water_source = lava_source turns to stone 03:55 cornernote make sure there is air between them 03:55 khonkhortisan is this already hosted somewhere? 03:55 cornernote no :( :( 03:55 cornernote well, i have it, but im in Australia 03:56 cornernote so it will be so sucky cos it will be slow 04:01 khonkhortisan ooh! pistons go up! 04:12 khonkhortisan I have a loop of four delayers, I connect an on wire to it then immediately dig, and it goes around about 11 times before ending up all on 04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: re: your decimal-to-binary question: use a table. dectobin={"0000","0001","0010",...,"1111"} and then access it, binary=dectobin[decimal] 04:16 VanessaE well, decimal+1 04:17 VanessaE back in the 8-bit days, this was the fastest way to accomplish such a thing, as long as the range of numbers is small enough 04:18 khonkhortisan Did you see the two images? 04:18 cy1 wow, that skyblock mod is downright evil 04:18 VanessaE no 04:19 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848533240/in/photostream/lightbox/ click the <-- Newer button 04:19 cy1 you can be walking through a dip in terrain and suddenly LAVA ON YOUR HEAD 04:19 cy1 with a 1/10 chance every 2 seconds o.O 04:19 khonkhortisan so run fast! 04:19 cy1 evil! 04:20 cy1 never make an abm that turns air to lava. o.O 04:20 khonkhortisan Is there a way to load it without changing my default mods? 04:21 khonkhortisan VanessaE: What do you think? it lets you see the programming at a glance in case you have a very complicated grid of them 04:23 VanessaE hang on 04:23 VanessaE AW 04:23 VanessaE you overwrote my fancy logo :( 04:24 VanessaE in high-resolution images of the uC have the minetest logo and "part number" of the chip there 04:24 VanessaE (fictitious part number of course) 04:25 khonkhortisan oh. I should put it in the corner like the delayer then. 04:25 VanessaE absolutely yes 04:25 VanessaE but what does it show? 04:25 VanessaE the letters are supposed to light up on output anyway 04:25 khonkhortisan it shows the modulus length of the programming 04:25 khonkhortisan the letters still work 04:25 VanessaE ohh 04:26 VanessaE put the LEDs in one corner of the PCB area then 04:26 VanessaE (the green part surrounding the IC) 04:26 khonkhortisan so if you have a bunch that are all the same and a few that are different you can find them 04:27 khonkhortisan I would've put them on the white where it makes less sense 04:27 khonkhortisan look at the <--Newer picture, that's what it's for 04:28 VanessaE I see it 04:28 VanessaE well 04:28 VanessaE the texture for the uC is 32x32, so you could easily tuck it into the PCB area, say below/right of the "A" LED. 04:30 VanessaE (that is, in the lower-left corner of the PCB) 04:30 VanessaE btw, what does this slab of uC's do anyway? 04:31 VanessaE make that µC - forgot about my compose key ;) 04:31 khonkhortisan it does nothing, I don't want to mess up my real circuit. I have two 18x8 µC grids used for blinking the winning line on tictactoe 04:33 VanessaE cool 04:35 khonkhortisan I'm overlaying a transparent texture for the display so there are 16*2 µc textures instead of 16^2 04:35 VanessaE smart 04:35 VanessaE bnow 04:35 VanessaE as for the clock, 04:35 VanessaE the µC has a built-in timer 04:35 khonkhortisan does it happen to work better? 04:36 VanessaE dunno, I haven't tried it 04:36 VanessaE the timer looks to be a one-shot timer though 04:36 VanessaE but if you loop it from timer out back to timer in it would work. 04:37 VanessaE so something like: if(A)after(0.1, on(B))after(0.1, off(B)) 04:37 VanessaE then you loop a wire from A to B and also branch off of that to get your clock 04:38 VanessaE (in this case, that should give you a 5 Hz clock) 04:38 khonkhortisan I could just use B the whole time 04:38 VanessaE well you need the wire loop around otherwise the timer will only execute one cycle 04:38 khonkhortisan if(B)after(0.1,off(B));if(!B)after(0.1,on(B)); 04:39 VanessaE that would work too 04:39 VanessaE but I dunno if the code can refer to itself like that 04:39 VanessaE you might need a small delay after each if 04:39 khonkhortisan it can, as long as you have a wire on the B side 04:40 VanessaE there ya go :-) 04:40 khonkhortisan output is on the µC node, input is on the neighbor node 05:03 khonkhortisan minetest: pthread_mutex_lock.c:62: __pthread_mutex_lock: Assertion `mutex->__data.__owner == 0' failed. Aborted 05:03 VanessaE um, ouch? 05:03 VanessaE :-) 05:05 khonkhortisan http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7848964998/in/photostream/lightbox/ 05:06 VanessaE perfect. 05:06 VanessaE when that patch goes in, I'll tweak my photorealistic textures to allow for it. 05:06 VanessaE and I'll tune the nodebox model to raise it up a tad also 05:07 khonkhortisan half the chip height? 05:07 VanessaE I think 1/4 of the chip height 05:08 VanessaE just enough to suggest a group of tiny surface-mounted LEDs or so 05:08 khonkhortisan so we can have LEDs small enough to fit in a node but we can't have touchscreens made out of buttons and lightstone 05:08 VanessaE btw, I think you should hash the code instead of using the length 05:09 khonkhortisan yes, but that would be more complicated 05:09 VanessaE that way you can be sure each µC will have a unique pattern if they're different 05:09 khonkhortisan then I fit it into 16 different display options 05:10 VanessaE hrm 05:10 VanessaE yeah I suppose so 05:10 khonkhortisan yeah, you're right, letters could be switched but the programming is the same 05:11 VanessaE might need to draw 3x3 or 4x4 LEDs in that little space though for a hash to be effective. 05:11 khonkhortisan each on port and on LED makes a different node definition 05:11 VanessaE right 05:13 khonkhortisan with 4x4 LEDs that would be (4*4)^2 * 16 or 4096 nodes just for µCs 05:13 khonkhortisan with 2x2 it's 256 05:13 VanessaE um.. on second though, let's just stick with 2x2. 05:19 VanessaE does it create the extra nodes on demand or at startup? 05:24 khonkhortisan startup 05:24 VanessaE ick 05:24 VanessaE jeija probably won't go for that 05:25 VanessaE he's a bit hesitant about adding hundreds of new nodes. 05:25 NakedFury makes modules 05:25 VanessaE (and btw, it would be 2^20 for a 4x4 LED matrix, or 1048576 nodes, since that's 16 bits + the 4 bits' worth of I/O :-) 05:26 khonkhortisan so if(!minetest.registered_nodes('microcontroller00000000')) then minetest.register_node( 05:26 VanessaE sure, if that'll create a proper on-demand registration 05:27 khonkhortisan 16 * 4 05:27 khonkhortisan whoops 05:27 VanessaE then you can have as many hash LEDs as you want 05:27 khonkhortisan then if it's the last hash on the planet deregister it? 05:27 VanessaE there will only be as many actual nodes defined as the number of unique hashes the LEDs resolve to and are actually in use 05:27 khonkhortisan and how will I create the hundreds of images? 05:27 VanessaE do like thexyz does - create them on-demand also 05:27 VanessaE (see his signs mod) 05:28 khonkhortisan oh yeah I was meaning to look at that 05:28 VanessaE also, jin_xi's painting mod does something very similar 05:30 VanessaE doing it on-demand gives you more flexibility and uses less memory anyway 05:32 khonkhortisan so I have more work to do 05:32 VanessaE yeah 05:33 VanessaE but even with a 2x2 LED hash (or whatever) you should still use on-demand registration 05:33 VanessaE maybe we should split up the microcontroller images as well? 05:33 VanessaE mm...maybe not 05:33 VanessaE well yeah 05:33 khonkhortisan it would create less images, the same amount of nodes. 05:34 VanessaE 1 main top image with four "off" LEDs on it plus four separate "on" LED images 05:34 khonkhortisan bottom^A^B^C^D.png up to five overlapped images 05:34 VanessaE yes exactly 05:34 khonkhortisan that would be an improvement if minetest can handle that many images 05:34 VanessaE the side images would remain unchanged 05:37 khonkhortisan I can't seem to write on the sign 05:37 VanessaE right-click on it and type something in 05:37 VanessaE make sure you're using a new sign 05:37 VanessaE not the old one 05:38 VanessaE W W W 05:38 VanessaE W W S 05:38 VanessaE - - 0 05:38 VanessaE gah s/0/-/ 05:38 VanessaE five wood and a stick I think is the recipe 05:38 khonkhortisan six wood no stick 05:38 VanessaE oh ok 05:39 * MiJyn is away: Gone phishing 05:39 khonkhortisan you weren't even here 05:39 VanessaE there will need to be aliases registered for the existing microcontroller0000-1111 nodes also 05:39 VanessaE lest this proposed change end up breaking old maps 05:39 VanessaE (I don't want my 8-bit adder to break :D ) 05:40 khonkhortisan the text is green from the back and there's little dots of color around the sign 05:41 VanessaE bug in the game. 05:41 VanessaE one sec, lemme get the fix for you 05:42 VanessaE http://paste.dy.fi/dAK 05:43 VanessaE apply this against latest git 05:43 VanessaE (line 9 is the only change, if you want to apply it manually) 05:43 khonkhortisan did it manually, now running 05:44 VanessaE ok 05:44 khonkhortisan that's better 05:44 VanessaE not sure why c55 didn't push that to git master yet, but it works for thexyz and I also. 05:45 VanessaE (and c55 is the one who came up with it :-) ) 05:45 khonkhortisan maybe because it only appears to affect a mod 05:46 khonkhortisan I've been playing on gameboom too long when I see papyrus in singleplayer I have an urge to take it 05:47 VanessaE haha 05:49 khonkhortisan after a server restart, how would I know what hashes to re-register? 05:49 VanessaE not sure 05:50 VanessaE store them in a database with the world files maybe? 05:50 VanessaE or in the various nodes' metadata 05:53 VanessaE in thexyz's signs mod, the overlay image created by the text rendering routine gets stored with the sign I guess, or it gets re-rendered, but either way the visible text is presistent across restarts 05:53 VanessaE (after the gfx glitch bug fix above) 05:54 VanessaE I dunno, it's just a thought anyway 05:56 khonkhortisan so there could be just six images and 16 nodes and another meta string for the 4x4 hash 05:56 VanessaE yeah 05:56 VanessaE that's probably easiest 05:56 khonkhortisan night 05:56 VanessaE assuming indeed the 4x4 hash - it might end up being harder to read though 05:58 VanessaE er, good night. 06:10 VanessaE morning TLP 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2688 10/branches/stable-0.2/util/colors.txt: Add apple color to minetestmapper and fix cactus color 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2689 10/branches/stable-0.2/util/minetestmapper.py: minetestmapper speed tweaks (kahrl & JacobF) 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: 03kahrl * r2690 10/branches/stable-0.2/util/minetestmapper.py: 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: minetestmapper: Fix the way ylist is computed, use cStringIO instead of rolling 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: own Bytestream, remove some artifacts when drawing underground blocks, introduce 07:29 CIA-17 minetest: a --drawunderground switch (defaults to of), 'blocknum' renamed to 'content'. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2691 10/branches/stable-0.2/doc/changelog.txt: Update changelog 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2692 10/branches/stable-0.3: Update changelog and call this 0.3.1 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2693 10/branches/stable-0.3/src/filesys.cpp: Add #include to filesys.cpp (needed by some linux distros now) 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2694 10/branches/stable-0.3/src/content_craft.cpp: Add wooden planks to creative inventory (...finally 8D) 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2695 10/branches/stable-0.3/ (doc/changelog.txt CMakeLists.txt): Update changelog and call this 0.3.2 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2696 10/branches/stable-0.4: Version 0.4.1 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2697 10/tags/0.4.1: Version 0.4.1 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2698 10/tags/0.4.2-rc1: Call this 0.4.2-rc1 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2699 10/tags/0.4.0: BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2700 10/branches/stable-0.2.20110922/ (584 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2701 10/branches/next/ (233 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2702 10/branches/newnodemetadata_v3/ (239 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2703 10/branches/newnodemetadata_v4/ (235 files in 15 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2704 10/branches/node_texture_animation/ (165 files in 13 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2705 10/branches/oldmaster/ (586 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2706 10/branches/stable/ (586 files in 36 dirs): BITCH, THIS IS 0.4.0. 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: 03perttu.ahola * r2707 10/trunk/builtin/item.lua: 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: Fix github issue #213: Dropping unknown items crashes the game 07:30 CIA-17 minetest: The items will now just disappear when dropped. 07:33 VanessaE oh that accomplished a whole lot. 07:35 Calinou omg cia bot 07:35 Calinou spam 07:35 VanessaE morning Calinou. 07:58 mika__ anybody online? 07:58 VanessaE no :) 07:59 VanessaE ha! 09:17 cornernote updated skyblock - now has ingame challenges - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2799 10:12 jin_xi suo 10:12 jin_xi sup? 10:13 Calinou hi 10:13 Calinou I'm working on documenting moreores/moreblocks on the wiki :D 10:13 Calinou making some 3D renders first 10:13 jin_xi cool 10:24 Calinou gtg for now, lunch 10:24 * Calinou is also sorting his 3d renders 10:24 Calinou I have like 150 of them :p 10:29 bas080 blame your favorite religion today O.o 10:30 jin_xi kopimism made me do it 10:30 bas080 I am focusing on creative ideas for minetest... that's why i'm here 10:31 Basstard` Books. 10:32 jin_xi what would be in books? 10:32 bas080 Minetest should have books indeed! 10:34 Basstard` jin_xi: Tentacle erotica. 10:36 jin_xi all i could hope for 10:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:39 bas080 PilzAdam, hey man. 10:40 jin_xi Hi Adam 10:40 PilzAdam we should change the topic 10:40 bas080 +1 10:44 bas080 or what about: For all your minetest questions, ideas, cooperation and more... 10:47 Basstard` Or what about: Minetest - now with tentace erotica! 10:47 Basstard` tentacle. 10:51 bas080 If that's how we want to represent all the people working hard on this project... 10:52 bas080 this is our message towards the outside world 10:59 Basstard` Minetest would benefit. 11:00 FreeFull Tentacle mod? 11:00 Basstard` Indeed. 11:08 bas080 Can you mod Basstard? 11:38 bas080 VanessaE, the pipes mod is awesome but why do the pipes not connect in my 4.2-rc1 minetest version 11:38 bas080 they also do look very square ish not like in screenshot 11:40 RealBadAngel comment out old ones 11:42 bas080 thnx RealBadAngel 11:43 bas080 Can i also remove the oldpipes.lua 11:43 bas080 ? 11:43 NekoGloop We talking about vanessa's pipeworks? 11:44 NekoGloop If so, then yes you can. 11:44 bas080 yes NekoGlooop 11:44 NekoGloop Nice topic. 11:46 bas080 thnx 11:47 NekoGloop No i meant the one set by pilzadam 11:54 PilzAdam Im back 11:55 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam 11:55 PilzAdam sup 11:55 * NekoGloop pokes him again :3 11:55 * PilzAdam pokes back 11:55 NekoGloop (i have nothing better to do) 11:56 PilzAdam http://tagesschau.de/ausland/breivik250.html 11:56 NekoGloop Lol... I cant read that... 11:59 cornernote hey guys 11:59 * NekoGloop pokes cornernote 11:59 PilzAdam hi 11:59 cornernote im getting this error keeps crashing my server, not sure what it means... 12:00 cornernote ServerEnv trying to store id=XX statically but block (199,-3,204) already contains over 49 objects. Forcing delete. 12:01 cornernote it keeps doing that, and then soon it crashes 12:01 PilzAdam there are too many entities/objects in the position 12:01 cornernote i goto that pos, but theres nothing there but air 12:01 PilzAdam try /clearobjects 12:03 cornernote seems to work, thanks 12:16 NekoGloop 9000 endermen vs. 1 slenderman 12:16 NekoGloop Who wins? 12:16 Basstard` blenderman 12:16 Calinou bender wins 12:16 Basstard` Hah 12:16 NekoGloop Do you know why? 12:22 bas080 I have the water intake in the water and a pump not ontop of it by beside it. At the end of the pipe there is a waterstorage. Why is it not pumping? 12:22 bas080 the pump is in the pipeline. 12:22 NekoGloop Because that part isnt done yet? 12:23 bas080 isn't it NekoGloop? 12:24 NekoGloop ...? 12:24 bas080 ??? 12:24 PilzAdam ??? 12:24 NekoGloop Dont understand your question... 12:25 bas080 why doesn't it pump to water storage while I did as the instructions said i should? 12:25 cornernote now my client is going crazy... keeps freezing and then the console says "resizing window" 12:33 bas080 why u no work? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/419967/Screenshot%20-%2008242012%20-%2002%3A30%3A37%20PM.png 12:36 mika__ is glomie here? 12:43 PilzAdam ___━━____┓━╭━━━━━╮ 12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____┗┓|::::::::::^━━^ 12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____━┗|:::::::: |｡◕‿‿◕｡| 12:43 PilzAdam ____━━____━━╰O--O----O-O-╯ 12:43 NekoGloop NYANCAT~ 12:44 PilzAdam yay 12:44 NekoGloop (i take it you found one?) 12:46 gtrsdk_ can't you only find it in 0.3.x? 12:47 PilzAdam ive found one in 0.4 12:48 NekoGloop And from looking at mapgen.lua, they're just rare as sh*t 12:49 mika__ how do i install a new map in minetest, i seem to have lost the one i had and multiplayer aint working 12:49 Octupus hi 12:49 mika__ hi 12:49 Octupus ok mika 12:49 Octupus an adventure map or a signle player map 12:50 NekoGloop Same goddamn thing, octopus. 12:50 mika__ now it found my map again, but a new single player map would be nice 12:50 Octupus they are different gloop 12:50 NekoGloop No they arent 12:50 Octupus ok go to singleplaer on mt 12:51 mika__ im here 12:51 Octupus and click new world _ minetestgame_Put a name_click create 12:51 NekoGloop Not until i get my adventuretest gamemode, the two are the same 12:53 mika__ octupus, i downloaded earlier a map, which folder should i put it in so the game finds it 12:53 NekoGloop ~/worlds 12:54 PilzAdam mika__, you have a system wide installed version? 12:54 mika__ idk, running ubuntu 12:54 PilzAdam you use ppa? 12:54 NekoGloop In the worlds folder where you have minetest installed 12:54 sir-king-lol-guy LOL 12:55 PilzAdam hi sir-king-lol-guy 12:55 mika__ i downloaded zip and then threw it terminal 12:55 sir-king-lol-guy sup 12:55 Isabella LOL 12:55 mika__ i found the worlds folder 12:56 PilzAdam hi Isabella 12:56 Isabella whirm: hello :P 12:56 Isabella hi adam 12:57 sir-king-lol-guy lol 12:57 mika__ got some towncraft map, here is no gravity 12:57 whirm sir-king-lol-guy: hi 12:58 sir-king-lol-guy omg 12:58 sir-king-lol-guy omg lol 12:59 Octupus stupid connection 12:59 PilzAdam Isabelle/sir-king-lol-guy, so you are your own best friend? 13:03 Basstard` Octupus: Do you have any tentacle erotica? 13:04 sir-king-lol-guy i guess :) 13:06 * VanessaE is in 13:06 NekoGloop Hello vanessae :3 13:07 VanessaE bas080: you don't have to do anything to the mod - just choose the newer pipes in your creative inventory or /giveme pipeworks:pipe 999 13:07 VanessaE also hi :-) 13:07 VanessaE the old pipes do not participate in any way with the new code, they're only present for backwards-compatibility. 13:07 VanessaE heyneko 13:07 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 13:08 bas080 Hey VanessaE 13:08 VanessaE hey PilzAdam 13:08 bas080 I had to comment out the old nodes otherwise i got the more square tubes. 13:08 bas080 and they didn't auto connect. 13:08 * VanessaE offers a nice hit bowl of ramen noodles :-) 13:08 VanessaE hot* 13:08 VanessaE bas080: both types of pipes are in the creative inventory - you sure you have the most recent git of pipeworks? 13:09 bas080 i think not... 13:09 bas080 downloaded an hour ago. 13:09 VanessaE that's the latest 13:09 bas080 does the pump function work? 13:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel is working on that part. 13:10 VanessaE he says it works pretty well in his testing, should be ready for release today when last I heard 13:10 bas080 VanessaE, i remember reading that yesterday. 13:10 bas080 He was doing the sea test :P 13:10 VanessaE there ya go :-) 13:11 bas080 How is that going RealBadAngel? 13:11 * NekoGloop slurps the ramen :3 13:12 * PilzAdam slurps NekoGloops blood 13:12 NekoGloop O.O 13:12 VanessaE anyhow, you need to make sure you're trying to build with the round pipe ("Pipe Segment") and not the square one ( "Empty Pipe (horizontal)" ) 13:13 bas080 I did that. I'm using the round ones. +1 for that nice mod 13:13 VanessaE cool 13:13 VanessaE thanks :-) 13:13 bas080 It opens allot of doors for other cool mods 13:14 bas080 alot! :P 13:14 bas080 ***bas080 facepalms himself 13:15 VanessaE ? 13:15 PilzAdam ? 13:15 NekoGloop Alot is better than you at everything 13:15 VanessaE oh heh 13:15 bas080 also facepalming! 13:16 VanessaE just got up, so I'm still a little dense :-) 13:17 VanessaE mika__: hold still dammit 13:17 NekoGloop Lol 13:17 mika__ i'm trying, its this xchat that crashes 13:17 VanessaE I use xchat, seems okay to me 13:17 * PilzAdam uses XChat too 13:18 NekoGloop I use colloquy 13:18 mika__ i dont know what it is but when i close that ubuntu conversation this crashes 13:18 VanessaE what conversation? 13:18 VanessaE you DO know you're not supposed to just "close" a window just because it's open 13:18 mika__ #ubuntu on freenode, it's there locked at startup 13:19 VanessaE um 13:19 VanessaE that's the server tab, 13:19 VanessaE you're not crashing xchat, 13:19 VanessaE it's supposed to do that. 13:19 mika__ no not freenode, ubuntu 13:19 PilzAdam rightclick on the channel and click close 13:19 PilzAdam and not close the window 13:20 VanessaE right click on the channel text, select XChat -> Network List... 13:20 VanessaE edit the entry for freenode to take the #ubuntu out 13:20 mika__ i rightclick and close but it crashes every now and then 13:22 VanessaE mika stop clicking on stuff! 13:23 VanessaE *grumble*( 13:23 NekoGloop Just leave him/her 13:23 PilzAdam *it 13:23 NekoGloop That too. 13:25 VanessaE you know, you'd think after the first dozen or so crashes she'd get the idea that the program doesn't work for her and try something else instead. 13:25 VanessaE (assuming they're really crashes and not her terminating the program the wrong way) 13:25 NekoGloop You'd think she'd just stop trolling us 13:26 mika__ now i tried to get into preferencees 13:26 NekoGloop Lol 13:27 PilzAdam >:-( 13:27 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam :3 13:27 * PilzAdam pokes back 13:27 * NekoGloop giggle 13:28 * PilzAdam pokes harder 13:28 * NekoGloop giggles 13:28 * PilzAdam pokes even harder 13:28 NekoGloop H-hey... That hurts... ;_; 13:28 PilzAdam :-) 13:31 * VanessaE tries PilzAdam ambiance mod 13:32 PilzAdam yay 13:32 VanessaE meh, foldername must be wrong 13:33 NekoGloop ambience* 13:33 PilzAdam yes 13:33 VanessaE When you clone from git it's different :-) 13:33 VanessaE mike stop clicking on stuff! 13:33 VanessaE mika even 13:33 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1_ZrUMG5g 13:33 PilzAdam http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat 13:34 PilzAdam mika___, read this 13:34 VanessaE mika___: just use something else if xchat is that unstable 13:34 mika___ i am on the net 13:34 VanessaE you mean the web. 13:34 mika___ webchat.freenode.net 13:34 thexyz pidgin ftw 13:34 VanessaE I've never seen someone have so much trouble with xchat. 13:35 VanessaE what are you clicking on that it just keeps crashing?? 13:35 mika___ changed my internet cable cause i have one thats broken, but my internet seems stable on speedtests 13:35 NekoGloop If i tried, it would work even less... 13:35 gtrsdk_ VanessaE: where do you sde xchat problems? 13:35 VanessaE gtrsdk_: [08-24 09:17] i'm trying, its this xchat that crashes 13:35 mika___ it was anykey 13:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: ha! segfaulted minetest while generating the cache :-) 13:36 gtrsdk_ mika___: which OS? 13:36 mika___ ubuntu 12,04 13:37 mika___ it's possible the hardware is the a problem 13:37 gtrsdk_ mika___: does ping google.com get any errors or dropped packets/ 13:38 mika___ ? 13:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: this is nice. need way more bird songs though but this is realyl nice 13:38 VanessaE really* 13:38 PilzAdam neromancer has more sounds 13:39 gtrsdk_ mika___: or, if it is crashing... do you have it set to minimize to the Unity bar or something? 13:39 Isabella Hi 13:40 PilzAdam hi Isabella 13:40 Isabella hi... :3 13:40 mika___ i installed it couple of days ago from software center, its default settings 13:41 VanessaE oh G*d, not Unity 13:41 VanessaE ANYTHING but that 13:41 mika___ unity? 13:41 * VanessaE hands mika___ copies of xfce, lxde, windowmaker, twm, and e. 13:41 VanessaE mika___: it's the default user interface in ubuntu. 13:41 * PilzAdam uses Kubuntu 13:41 NekoGloop Just give it windows 13:41 VanessaE NO! 13:41 VanessaE BAD kitty! 13:41 PilzAdam NO!!! 13:42 VanessaE *hiissssss* 13:42 * PilzAdam hitss NekoGloop 13:42 * NekoGloop cries 13:42 * PilzAdam throws him out of the window 13:42 VanessaE MEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww [fades] 13:42 mika___ i hate that sidebar but dont know how to get rid of it. used 10.04, then downloaded this 12.04 when it came out and tried it and now this week i installed it again 13:42 VanessaE *splat* 13:42 NekoGloop Wheeeee~ 13:42 VanessaE mika___: log out of ubuntu and log back in in "classic" mode. 13:43 mika___ windows doesnt like my hardware 13:43 thexyz mika___: log out of ubuntu & log into debian 13:43 VanessaE mika___: that should give you the old gnome desktop 13:43 gtrsdk_ mika___: you'd probably have to install gnome-panel 13:43 gtrsdk_ lol thexyz 13:43 PilzAdam mika___, do this and then do that 13:43 VanessaE mika___: and when you're done with that, do the other thing also. 13:44 gtrsdk_ if you get LXDE, then you can minimize to the taskbar thing 13:44 thexyz http://mate-desktop.org/ 13:44 thexyz > MATE Desktop Environment, a non-intuitive and unattractive desktop for users, using traditional computing desktop metaphor. Also known as the GNOME2 fork. 13:45 mika___ ok, ill change to that 2d now 13:45 gtrsdk_ 2d isn't classic :-/ 13:45 VanessaE I'm sorry, Canonical is doing the wrong thing here. 13:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, +1 13:45 gtrsdk_ +1 13:46 NekoGloop I'm sorry, my_ass.exe needs to close. 13:46 VanessaE not only was unity a fucking boneheaded move (the tablet metaphor does not work for a desktop system) 13:47 mika___ i dont see a change. would remember 10.04 made a difference 13:47 VanessaE mika___: go install xubuntu or kubuntu or something. 13:47 VanessaE http://www.kubuntu.org/ 13:48 VanessaE http://xubuntu.org/ 13:48 thexyz http://www.gentoo.org/ 13:48 VanessaE they're ubuntu without the stupid. 13:48 sdzen http://blagblagblag.org/ 13:48 jin_xi www.zombo.com 13:48 NekoGloop Lol 13:48 mika___ ok, what was the difference, lubuntu is light but whats with the k and x? 13:48 gtrsdk_ http://debian.org <-- best option 13:48 thexyz sdzen: wtf is that shit? 13:48 bas080 http://xubuntu.org/upgrading/ 13:49 sdzen it is shit 13:49 VanessaE gentoo? heh. -funroll_loops -Lricer -Dtype_r_sticker -Dracing_stripes -O9000 -Dsomeother_damn_thing 13:49 sdzen did you not read it? 13:49 gtrsdk_ MiJyn: k has KDE (will be slower) 13:49 thexyz mika___: lubuntu uses LXDE, kubuntu — KDE, xubuntu — xfce 13:49 gtrsdk_ err 13:49 thexyz VanessaE: don't have those 13:49 gtrsdk_ mika___: ^^^^ 13:49 thexyz what am i doing wrong? 13:49 gtrsdk_ but you don't need to reinstall the OS to get those 13:50 thexyz you may also just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 13:50 VanessaE gtrsdk_: he/she doesn't know how to install software at the low level (or xchat would not be an issue) 13:50 gtrsdk_ or apt-get install kde 13:50 thexyz same for lubuntu/xubuntu 13:50 VanessaE sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop 13:50 gtrsdk_ oh right 13:50 sdzen apt-get install kddekadenz 13:50 VanessaE hey, punk'd by thexyz. :-) 13:50 sdzen i couldnt resist 13:50 VanessaE heh* 13:51 whirm VanessaE: :D I used to be a Gentoo user 13:51 VanessaE whirm: as was I :-) 13:51 whirm Until I noticed that debian was as fast (at least) than Gentoo 13:51 _2cool_ Does anyone know how to correctly pronounce Jeija? 13:51 VanessaE _2cool_: I guess "jeejah" 13:51 gtrsdk_ mika___: you can see screenshots of what they look like... like for LXDE, you can go to http://lxde.org/ 13:52 _2cool_ I'll try it in my next vid 13:52 NekoGloop Ask 313hummer or look on his first part of mesecons review. 13:52 VanessaE whirm: for me, gentoo was marginally faster but not worth the headaches of building every damn thing 13:52 * whirm sighs when remembering 24h compilation times for openoffice 13:52 thexyz you can also just emerge libreoffice-bin 13:52 gtrsdk_ whirm: what hardware gave you 24h compiling? :o 13:53 thexyz same for firefox/chromium/some other things 13:53 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG-jIoSYVX4 13:53 whirm thexyz: that's just gay, why would you use gentoo if you don't compile everything with tons of absurd optimization flags? 13:53 _2cool_ Sounds like yeigha. 13:53 thexyz whirm: so you use gentoo only for compiling everything? why not LFS then? 13:54 thexyz for me its main advantage is use flags 13:54 mika___ now my minetest multiplayer works again, lets see how much damage has happened 13:55 whirm gtrsdk_: 900Mhz G3 IBook laptop :D 13:55 whirm gtrsdk_: I was joking :) 13:56 whirm one of these days I have to test Void Linux 13:56 whirm looks pretty cool 13:56 thexyz why can't people simply use popular distros? 13:57 sdzen because they are all hipsters and need to be burned 13:57 sdzen :P 13:57 gtrsdk_ good thing I don't have many G3s then :) 13:57 mika___ thexyz, why cant people behave on multiplayer 13:58 whirm thexyz: yes, but at the end its not worth it 13:59 thexyz maybe 13:59 whirm thexyz: with debian you end up installing some stuff you don't want 13:59 whirm but with gentoo you have the sources of everything installed on your system staying there... 14:00 whirm so debian is more space efficient at the end, and you can install localepurge to slim it a bit 14:01 whirm but gentoo is cool otherwise, I was pretty happy with it 14:02 VanessaE whirm: you can clean out your distfiles directory on gentoo last I recall 14:03 VanessaE (I don't recall the full path though) 14:03 PilzAdam Ive invented a mineral detector: minetest.register_node(":default:stone", {drawtype = "airlike",}) 14:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: someone else already did something similar a while back :-) 14:03 whirm VanessaE: yes, but then you need to get them back to upgrade anyway 14:03 * gtrsdk_ compiles stuff in Debian 14:04 gtrsdk_ ooh... kernel 3.6-rc3 is out 14:04 VanessaE 3.6? 14:04 VanessaE I'm still on 3.2 14:04 whirm gtrsdk_: I compile my kernel from git 14:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://www.zimg.eu/i/3767503097 14:05 whirm there are really few packages I need that aren't on debian sid/experimental 14:05 whirm mayble the lastest systemd 14:05 whirm and gimp 14:06 thexyz OH! 14:06 gtrsdk_ whirm: how often do you compile & install it? 14:06 thexyz i have found a man who needs systemd 14:06 whirm oh, and tribler 14:06 VanessaE wow 14:07 whirm gtrsdk_: it depends 14:07 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/ih0eA.png 14:07 whirm gtrsdk_: when I see btrfs or i915 updates mostly 14:07 NekoGloop Ew! 14:07 NekoGloop Minecraft, ick. 14:08 whirm thexyz: are you a systemd user too? :) 14:08 thexyz no 14:08 thexyz i thought nobody needs it 14:08 thexyz use OpenRC, btw 14:09 gtrsdk_ whirm: ah, so you use btrfs? is that on all drives? 14:10 whirm thexyz: I don't _need_ it :) but its _much_ faster than the regular init scripts 14:10 whirm and cleaner 14:10 VanessaE sfan5: that screenshot..what's it of? 14:10 sfan5 minecraft 14:10 VanessaE sorta looks like a vending machine 14:11 VanessaE yeah I know that :-) 14:11 sfan5 http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/minecraft-snapshot-12w34b/ 14:11 sfan5 potatoes & carrots 14:12 VanessaE meh 14:12 VanessaE didn't we already have that a while back? 14:12 _2cool_ I think I should start Minetest Mod Showcases 14:12 sfan5 VanessaE: potatoes and carrots in minetest? 14:12 _2cool_ ehh? 14:12 _2cool_ oh, my bad 14:13 whirm gtrsdk_: http://paste.debian.net/185409/ 14:13 jin_xi MESE carrots 14:13 VanessaE sfan5: yeah. I mean we have other food items, why not those also? 14:13 _2cool_ Yes, MEES CARROTS 14:13 _2cool_ I finally figured out how to pronounce these things ;) 14:14 NekoGloop 2cool: review mesecons then toolsizes \:D/ 14:14 gtrsdk_ cool 14:14 thexyz whirm: how long does it take to boot for you? 14:14 _2cool_ I'm going to do the Maze Mod first, good idea? 14:15 _2cool_ or no? 14:15 NekoGloop Hm... 14:15 VanessaE sure why not 14:15 VanessaE just don't forget my mods too :D 14:15 NekoGloop Do mesecons first, latest version needs a new vid 14:15 VanessaE oh yes 14:15 _2cool_ D'ohkay 14:15 VanessaE most mesecons media is way outdates 14:15 VanessaE outdated* 14:15 _2cool_ Aww, my mesecons world has died... 14:15 NekoGloop Hm... 14:15 NekoGloop I have a mod idea 14:15 _2cool_ server exception error 14:16 NekoGloop But noone will want to use it... 14:16 mika__ installed this xubuntu now 14:16 VanessaE You do a nice video comparable to the last one Jeija did, I'll post it on the mesecons website 14:16 PilzAdam _2cool_, also review my carts, beds, ambience, farming... 14:16 _2cool_ Mother of... 14:16 _2cool_ Okay, one at a time here, let me start! 14:16 mika__ but i cant tell if it now is any better than original 14:16 VanessaE mesecons website: http://mesecons.net23.net/ 14:16 _2cool_ yes, it's very nice 14:16 NekoGloop Anyone want to hear my mod idea? 14:16 jin_xi NekoGloop: just make the mods you want to use 14:17 _2cool_ Okay, I'm going away for about 10 minutes 14:17 * gtrsdk_ wonders if he should make the jump from 3.4.7 to 3.6-rc3 14:17 VanessaE _2cool_: wait 14:17 _2cool_ wat 14:18 VanessaE _2cool_: can you re-do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6kmeQj6iW5k 14:18 VanessaE that's the "official" video and is badly outdated. 14:18 NekoGloop Also 14:18 NekoGloop A video overview of microcontrollers would be nice 14:19 VanessaE NekoGloop: yes 14:19 mika__ vanessaE, is there a way to stop this bar at the bottom of xubuntu? 14:19 _2cool_ I'm almost ready, but having trouble with that video that vanessaE put up 14:20 VanessaE _2cool_: odd, works for me? 14:20 VanessaE mika__: right click, Panel -> Panel Preferences 14:20 _2cool_ Now it works, was having trouble putting the address in my browser 14:21 VanessaE Select whichever panel you want to work on with the dropdown at the top of the window ("Panel 0" or so) 14:21 VanessaE then drag it around, or hit the red (\) icon to delete it (don't do that yet) 14:22 NekoGloop I need a microphone ;_; 14:22 * PilzAdam gives NekoGloop one 14:22 NekoGloop No seriously 14:22 NekoGloop I need one 14:22 * PilzAdam gives NekoGloop another 14:23 PilzAdam :-) 14:23 NekoGloop ... 14:23 NekoGloop Unless you somehow mail it to me... 14:23 NekoGloop I dont want it 14:25 whirm thexyz: Startup finished in 3835ms (kernel) + 4976ms (userspace) = 8812ms 14:25 _2cool_ The mesecons battery won't gimme! 14:25 NekoGloop Battery is outdated 14:25 whirm thexyz: but it's because of a bug on the i915 driver, I lose 2 seconds kernel time resetting the gfx card 14:25 _2cool_ okayy 14:26 _2cool_ So what items, exactly, should I do? 14:26 whirm thexyz: in another laptop I have 1.1 kernel time and 3.9 user space time 14:27 NekoGloop Just dont do battery plugs or sockets, they're all outdated 14:27 _2cool_ okay 14:27 thexyz that's pretty nice 14:27 VanessaE battery plugs? 14:27 NekoGloop Insert commas where needed 14:27 whirm thexyz: yes, I will report a bug for the intel driver I think 14:29 Octupus hello 14:29 PilzAdam hi Octupus 14:29 _2cool_ Well, I have to go, I'll continue on this later 14:30 _2cool_ See you guys in about an hour 14:30 Octupus by 14:36 mika__ now this xchat should work 14:36 NekoGloop Anyone want a mod that makes cactus harm you? 14:36 VanessaE no, no one would want THAT ;) 14:36 NekoGloop ... 14:37 NekoGloop Anyone? 14:37 mika__ i want a working server 14:38 mika__ what is the terminal sudo command to uninstall minetest 14:39 NekoGloop -be_an_ass 14:39 NekoGloop \:D/ 14:40 whirm mika__: how have you installed minetest? 14:40 NekoGloop But seriously now, does anyone want my cactus damage mod? 14:41 mika__ downloaded it as a zip, then extracted and wrote some commands 14:41 whirm what commands? 14:42 whirm mika__: qmake and make? 14:42 mika__ cmake drun_in place 14:42 whirm did you execute "make install"? 14:42 mika__ and then some -j2 14:43 whirm ok, then you don't need to run any command from the console 14:43 whirm just delete the minetest folder you unzipped 14:43 mika__ ok 14:45 whirm do you want to build the git version of minetest 14:45 whirm ? 14:46 mika__ can try 14:46 whirm is easy 14:46 whirm first: sudo apt-get install git 14:47 whirm then: git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git 14:47 mika__ loading 14:47 whirm then: cd minetest 14:47 whirm cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 14:48 whirm make -j2 14:48 whirm and you are done 14:48 mika__ which version is that? 14:48 thexyz latest 14:49 iqualfragile you cann allso do -j 8 if you have 8 cores 14:49 thexyz damn 14:49 thexyz minetest.net is down 14:49 thexyz ..up again 14:50 mika__ there came some warning when i wrote that git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git 14:50 whirm mika__: what does it say? 14:50 mika__ WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-o8i8Wr/pkcs11: No such file or directory 14:50 whirm ah, np 14:50 mika__ cores? 14:50 whirm mika__: ignore it 14:51 whirm instead of make -j2 , do "make -j" 14:51 whirm with no numbers 14:51 whirm and it will use all the CPUS your computer has to compile 14:53 mika__ ok 14:53 Keegan HELLO 14:53 VanessaE hi 14:55 whirm mika__: once it finishes compiling run those commands: 14:55 Keegan whatca guys been up to 14:55 whirm cd games 14:55 whirm git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game 14:56 VanessaE working on pipeworks and other stuff 14:56 NekoGloop Aaaaanywaoy 14:56 Keegan I see I'm unban on forums 14:57 NekoGloop Ima leave now 14:57 NekoGloop Oh wait nvm 14:57 Keegan BackupCoder u there?? 14:59 VanessaE Keegan: yes. you've acted appropriately so I expired it early. 14:59 Keegan ok thanks 15:03 Keegan gtg see you guys l8ter 15:07 mika__ whirm, you there? 15:07 whirm mika__: yes 15:11 whirm Mika____: yes 15:12 Mika____ I logged in with my phone, the computer lags as f***. Warning 'void setBillboardTextureMatrix(irr::scene::IBillboardSceneNode* float, float, int, int)' defined but not used 15:12 mika__ now it seems to have built all, so it works again 15:13 whirm mika__: next time use -j2 instead of -j with no number :) 15:13 whirm if it lags it means minetest is too big to build all at once in your comp 15:13 mika__ the clock stood 4-5minutes, then it stopped twice for 2-3minutes 15:13 whirm XD 15:13 Calinou -j is horribly glitchy 15:13 whirm I gave you a bad advise 15:14 mika__ maybe my old 939 will last 15:16 mika__ whirm, anything else after git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game? 15:17 whirm no, you can use minetest as usual 15:17 mika__ ok 15:28 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mods/More_Blocks 15:28 Calinou *happy face* 15:28 Calinou (still uploading renders) 15:31 thexyz that fuckton of width="150px" makes me sad 15:31 Calinou hi kddekadenz, long time no see :) 15:31 Calinou thexyz, why? 15:32 Calinou maybe i should make a template 15:32 thexyz table seems to be broken too 15:32 Calinou yes i will fix this 15:32 thexyz i think you should make a template for mod info 15:32 thexyz that one with Mod Name:/Mod Folder Name:/etc 15:32 kddekadenz hi calinou, I will not be online here in the future 15:32 Calinou why? 15:32 kddekadenz this weekend: ludum dare 15:32 kddekadenz after that I continue working on Kelgar 15:33 Calinou hmm... maybe I should rename the mod info "More Blocks/Stone Bricks" instead of "Mods/More Blocks/Stone Bricks", yes 15:33 Calinou will do 15:39 Calinou image uploading done 15:42 Calinou PSA help is appreciated about documenting more blocks; see the default pages and adapt them for more blocks 15:42 Calinou example block: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stone 15:43 Calinou example item: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Stick 15:44 mika__ whirm 15:44 whirm yes 15:44 mika__ can you tell why it looks like this http://aijaa.com/0099910771262 15:46 whirm not sure about it, have you tried not using a custom texture? 15:47 mika__ thats glomies server, occurs every now and then. single player works great 15:47 whirm ah 15:47 whirm then almost for sure you are missing pieces of the map 15:48 mika__ but it aint fun building all by yourself, tried another server yesterday. there was a similar problem. 15:48 mika__ and other server use some protocol version 11 and i have 12 15:48 Calinou minetest.conf 15:48 Calinou enable_texture_atlas = false 15:48 Calinou slows down the game a bit but prevents texture glitches 15:50 whirm mika__: I don't know much of minetest still, sorry, Try what Calinou says to see if it helps :) 15:50 mika__ where do i find conf file 15:50 mika__ calinou 15:50 Calinou in your minetest folder 15:50 Calinou windows: where you extracted it 15:50 Calinou linux: ~/.minetest 15:50 Calinou (if self compiled, it can be in the folder where you installed it) 15:50 Calinou open it using a text editor 15:52 mika__ there isn't that option 15:52 Calinou add the line at the end of minetest.conf 15:52 Calinou then save 15:52 Calinou (quit the game first) 15:54 mika__ testing 15:56 NekoGloop Meow :3 15:58 Calinou WOOF 15:58 * Calinou eats neko259 15:58 Calinou oops. 15:58 Calinou he left 16:00 Calinou hi 16:07 mika__ calinou, that enable_texture_atlas = false doesn't seem to work 16:11 NekoGloop We need more uses for cacti, who's with me? 16:11 Calinou cactus brick/checker from moreblocks :D 16:11 NakedFury find out what they can be used for in real life and try to add that 16:11 whirm NekoGloop: make a cacti-bazooka 16:11 Calinou lol, these are just extremely silly :p 16:11 NekoGloop ... 16:12 NekoGloop I was thinking like a powerful sword. Maybe even an abm that damages you 16:13 NekoGloop What do you think? 16:15 kddekadenz a cactus club or cactus juice 16:15 NekoGloop Hm.. 16:15 NekoGloop Maybe make cactus fruit harvested rarely? 16:16 whirm and a cactus halucinogen drug 16:16 whirm and salad 16:16 whirm soup 16:17 whirm marmalade 16:17 jin_xi i think walking into cactus or attempt to mine it bare handed should hurt 16:18 NekoGloop I agree with jin_xi 16:18 saschaheylik whirm: u mean peyote? 16:18 whirm yes 16:18 NekoGloop And i think i know how to do that 16:18 NekoGloop But i'm on ipad atm 16:18 NekoGloop Cant actually make the mod :P 16:20 NekoGloop Hmmm... 16:20 NekoGloop I have an idea for mesecons. 16:21 NekoGloop Anyone seen the magnet piston in a minecraft mod? 16:21 saschaheylik no 16:21 NekoGloop Well... 16:21 NekoGloop It has four settings 16:22 NekoGloop When it is powered on, it functions like a normal piston, pushing the blocks. 16:23 NekoGloop But when it is powered off, it pulls an amount of blocks back, which is based on the setting of the magnet piston. 16:23 NekoGloop I would like to see this in minetest. 16:26 saschaheylik so its a sticky piston? 16:26 NekoGloop No 16:27 NekoGloop Its a sticky piston that can pull more blocks based on its setting 16:39 PilzAdam who uses mesecons without /giveme ? 16:41 iqualfragile me 16:41 PilzAdam realy? 16:43 NekoGloop asjk 16:43 NekoGloop wtf lol 16:44 iqualfragile yeah, there is no cheating on my server 16:51 NekoGloop well... I will attempt to make a cactus mod 16:51 NekoGloop brb I'm gonna grow to hate lua even more in a few minutes. 16:58 vicscandl meep 16:59 NekoGloop meep meep 16:59 saschaheylik meep meep meep 17:00 khonkhortisan meep meep meep meep 17:00 * vicscandl is stuck in ticket hell today... 17:00 FreeFull cornernote: I really like Skyblock as it is now 17:00 FreeFull It's more of a skysphere though =P 17:05 leo_rockway vicscandl: I've had one of those a few days ago :S 17:20 neko259 Calinou: Hi, I'm here again :3 17:20 * Basstard` is stuck with Jethro Tull today... 17:21 * NekoGloop pets neko259 17:24 vicscandl Basstard`: flippin hippies... i'm listening to Jerry Garcia Band today... :) 17:27 neko259 NekoGloop: Hi. 17:37 vicscandl leo_rockway: i just am pissed everyone waited till last night to push their tickets... meh 17:41 * VanessaE wanders back in 17:41 leo_rockway vicscandl: I hate when they wait till 10 minutes before my shift is over to send all the incidents. 17:41 leo_rockway then I have to stay and solve them :S 17:41 NakedFury they got together to play that prank on you visc 17:42 mika__ is it possible to make glowing glass any other color than yellow? 17:42 Calinou in the more blocks mod, no 17:42 mika__ ok 17:44 * vicscandl asks to be an ass... 17:44 vicscandl *poof* 17:44 VanessaE ha! 17:44 Calinou :p 17:44 Calinou VanessaE, http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/More Blocks 17:44 Calinou \o/ 17:44 VanessaE I saw it 17:44 VanessaE so when are you gonna do the same with my mods? ;-) 17:44 Basstard` How patient do I have to be before I can ask a question? 17:45 NakedFury very 17:45 Calinou VanessaE, heh, it was about 30 minutes of work (making the list & uploading images & "drafting") already :P 17:45 VanessaE heh 17:45 Calinou documenting ALL the mod will take approx. 4 hours or so at least 17:45 Calinou so help is welcome 17:45 Calinou (see talk page) 17:46 VanessaE you using your .blend fines, or maybe cornernote's hack? 17:49 Calinou .blend files 17:49 Basstard` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMYQyhjiYA 17:49 VanessaE files rather. yeah. 17:52 VanessaE cornernote's hack renders nodeboxes too :-) 17:53 Calinou brb 17:54 * Calinou is trying out xchat's "conference" mode 17:56 Calinou seems to work 8) 17:57 VanessaE cool I guess :-) 17:59 Calinou sign that it works: no joins/parts/quits in #ubuntu in four minutes 18:04 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=39399#p39399 - thexyz, WTF is a sql injection? 18:04 Calinou and why using ints suddenly helps? :P 18:06 VanessaE an sql injection is when someone writes a message, attempts a download, or does anything else that uses a server's mysql database, but formulates the query in such a way that it issues commands directly to mysql 18:06 VanessaE which might in turn do stuff like delete entries in the database, or perhaps gain root somehow, depends on the sql implementation, OS etc. 18:08 leo_rockway Bobby Tables 18:08 leo_rockway https://xkcd.com/327/ 18:12 * vicscandl pulls out a large syringe with a red stencil: SQL-Injector 18:12 VanessaE haha 18:12 thexyz right 18:12 vicscandl leo_rockway: btw, that is one of my favorite xkcd's 18:12 Calinou k 18:12 VanessaE gotta love xkcd. 18:13 leo_rockway =] 18:13 vicscandl you see his "what if" blog yet? 18:13 thexyz Calinou: not using ints, converting strings to ints using somewhat like intval 18:13 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, and I had forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder! 18:13 vicscandl leo_rockway: its off the hook 18:13 Calinou xkcd is funny 1/10th of the time 18:15 VanessaE and insightful the other 9/10. 18:16 mika__ is there any way of using lava controlled ? 18:16 VanessaE always put it in a small hole or trench? 18:16 VanessaE keep it away from flammables 18:16 Calinou not really 18:17 mika__ my plan is to flood my mine shaft 18:17 Calinou lol 18:17 Calinou maybe as lighting yes 18:18 mika__ dont know where they come from but everything that aint protected gets stolen, i have a wall around but they have made a tunnel to my mine and i cant find it 18:18 VanessaE mika__: install node protection or get the admin of the server to do it 18:19 mika__ but doesnt that just affect stones i put? 18:19 VanessaE no 18:19 VanessaE it affects the entire area you designate, whether you've built there or not 18:19 mika__ ok 18:19 VanessaE note I mean node protection, not node ownership. 18:19 mika__ ok 18:19 VanessaE (the one used on redcrab's server) 18:20 mika__ i'm on glomies 18:20 mika__ how was it with silver to make protects? 18:21 VanessaE ? 18:22 Calinou smelt silver ore > get silver ingots > make tools as usual 18:22 Calinou ??? 18:22 leo_rockway I've seen videos of the nether, enchanting and brewing from MC. I think it's stupid o.o 18:22 Calinou PROFIT 18:22 Calinou leo_rockway, the enchanting used to suck a lot; it sucks a bit now. the brewing is stupid indeed though 18:22 mika__ protects, those blocks with green spots that protect everyblock on 5 block radius 18:22 Calinou the nether is ok 18:23 mika__ its as making a sandstone, 4 silver in a square makes 16 protects 18:24 Calinou ah 18:37 GTRsdk since there's lego minecraft 18:38 GTRsdk it would be only fitting if there was Megabloks Minetest :D 18:38 VanessaE ha 18:38 khonkhortisan there isn't a lego minecraft, look at the dimensions 18:39 saschaheylik maybe its lego-similar 18:39 VanessaE there is a lego set 18:39 saschaheylik right 18:39 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Minecraft 18:40 khonkhortisan they look like they connect, but with a floor of legos the dots aren't evenly separated 18:42 khonkhortisan oh. that's a different one. 18:50 _2cool_ Anyone know the Giveme code for minetest lightstone? 18:51 khonkhortisan /giveme mesecons_lightstone:lightstone_gray_off 18:51 khonkhortisan or red, green, darkgray 18:52 _2cool_ Thanks, couldn't find it through the init.lua. 18:53 khonkhortisan I could 18:54 _2cool_ Well, I'm not as good as you 18:55 _2cool_ I'll be gone for a few more minutes now. 19:05 * NekoGloop sees the topis 19:05 NekoGloop topic* 19:05 NekoGloop Can i ask a question? :3 19:06 thexyz lol 19:06 NekoGloop No seriously 19:06 thexyz who the fuck did set it? 19:06 NekoGloop Did anyone else think that magnet pistons in minetest is a good idea? 19:07 NekoGloop thexyz: Calinou 19:07 NekoGloop I can tell on my client. 19:09 VanessaE magnet pistons? how would that differ from a sticky piston? 19:11 khonkhortisan the number of blocks it can pull back is between a sticky piston and a normal piston 19:11 hmmmm thexyz, you put in a lua jit-ter and it didn't help much, you say? 19:13 NekoGloop Uh... 19:14 NekoGloop It pulls back blocks = its power setting 19:14 NekoGloop So on setting 4 it pulls 4 blocks back, setting 3 it pulls 3, etc. 19:15 NekoGloop Search "minecraft magnet piston" in youtube, you'll see what i mean. 19:31 khonkhortisan I don't have enough µCs yet http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7852697510/in/photostream/lightbox/ 19:36 NekoGloop This is not an ipad 19:36 NekoGloop This is an ishit 19:38 Basstard` iShat 19:39 NekoGloop uBasstard 19:43 * vicscandl call's up Apple's lawyers to iSue you... 19:44 Basstard` iWin 19:44 vicscandl iBummed 19:44 NekoGloop iBored 19:44 NekoGloop I'm playing lunacraft :P 19:44 NakedFury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBlQS7ccFgw 19:54 Isabella im excited! 19:55 _2cool_ For? 19:55 Isabella the fair 19:55 Isabella im going tonight 19:55 _2cool_ nice 19:55 Isabella im going on a ride called freakout 19:55 _2cool_ Nice 19:55 Isabella i cant wait 19:56 _2cool_ Have fun! 19:56 Isabella thx 20:00 jin_xi ^^^ freakout 20:05 whirm XD 21:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 21:33 * NekoGloop pokes pilzadam 21:34 * PilzAdam pokes back 21:34 * NekoGloop pokes again :3 21:36 PilzAdam news? 21:37 NekoGloop Of what? 21:38 PilzAdam MInetest 21:38 NekoGloop ...? 21:38 NekoGloop My mods? 21:38 PilzAdam anything 21:38 NekoGloop Ok 21:38 NekoGloop I've decided to make a cactus mod, which gives cacti all kinds of uses. 21:39 _2cool_ Ugh, recording commentary is so difficult 21:39 NekoGloop Cactus fruit will be randomly obtained from cacti. This heals a heart and a half. 21:39 PilzAdam Hi _2cool_ 21:39 _2cool_ hello 21:40 PilzAdam you got new vids? 21:41 _2cool_ No, I actally got one sorta done, but Hypercam mucked up the A/V sync 21:42 khonkhortisan xvidcap doesn't record sound, it still tries to use /dev/dsp 21:42 VanessaE you should always use a separate application to record audio and then combine them in a good video editor 21:42 _2cool_ It worked on that first video... 21:42 khonkhortisan then how do you start them at the same time? 21:42 _2cool_ And it's okay, I messed up anyway 21:42 VanessaE you don't bother. you use the video editor to correct the A/V sync later. 21:42 _2cool_ I won't bother uploading the fail 21:42 NekoGloop A cactus sword (may be a club, depends on how the graphic looks) will be made from 2 cactus and a stick 21:43 PilzAdam please no more swords, picks, axes, shovels 21:43 NekoGloop (note that only the sword will be made) 21:43 VanessaE make it a mace. :-) 21:43 VanessaE after all, cacti are covered in spines/needles 21:43 NekoGloop Club then 21:44 NekoGloop I'm too lazy to edit it that much 21:44 PilzAdam make cactus arrows for my bow mod 21:44 PilzAdam they let new cacti grow 21:44 NekoGloop Well... 21:44 _2cool_ I'll try again later. 21:44 NekoGloop I was thinking of like darts or something 21:44 NekoGloop Using a stick and cactus fruit 21:45 PilzAdam btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cactus 21:46 NekoGloop Thank you, i really didnt know what a cactus was... 21:46 NekoGloop [/sarcasm] 21:47 _2cool_ Maybe I should try camstudio 21:50 NekoGloop Hm... Dragon fruit grow on cacti? ... 21:51 NekoGloop Interesting... 21:56 NekoGloop Should i make that an incredibly rare drop? 21:57 _2cool_ Ooh, are we talking about mobs? 21:57 NekoGloop No 21:57 _2cool_ oh 21:57 NekoGloop I'm talking about my cactus mod which is unreleased 21:57 _2cool_ Okay 21:58 _2cool_ Do they hurt you when you mine them with your hands? 21:58 _2cool_ Because that's something Minecraft doesn't have 21:58 NekoGloop Currently you are hurt when touching them 21:58 _2cool_ Sounds right 21:58 NakedFury touching them with hands should hurt 21:59 NekoGloop Workin on it 21:59 NakedFury I need to edit their nodebox to be smaller 21:59 NakedFury so I can use minecraft texture normally on them 21:59 Kant redcrab, online? 22:00 NekoGloop Ok irc crashed did anyone say anything? 22:00 _2cool_ My Atlas, apparently, is full. I don't get the correct Powerplant textures... 22:05 _2cool_ Was it something I said? 22:05 * MiJyn is back (gone 16:26:43) 22:06 VanessaE _2cool_: disable the texture atlas 22:06 VanessaE in your minetest.conf, add: enable_texture_atlas = false 22:06 VanessaE (stop the game before you edit the file) 22:07 NekoGloop Well 22:07 Kant Redcrab your server crashed now 5 times in 1h 22:07 VanessaE I disabled the thing ages ago because it doesn't work on my setup anyway 22:08 _2cool_ I saw what happened when Minetest runs on a slow computer today, it was pretty cool 22:08 NakedFury what is that atlas anyway? 22:08 NekoGloop It holds textures 22:08 NekoGloop Basically giant sprite sheet 22:08 PilzAdam a big picture that contains all little textures of the nodes 22:09 NakedFury anything performance wise to being on or off? 22:09 NekoGloop And for some reason the generated cube sprite of each node glitches 22:09 _2cool_ As it adds the texturs to the atlas, Minetest shows them all on the lower left of the screen. On a slow computer, you get to see every texture in the game 22:10 NekoGloop Nope 22:10 VanessaE I've never seen it do that, _2cool_ 22:10 _2cool_ Power Plant still doesn't look right 22:10 NekoGloop That's just it loading them -from- the atlas (and putting them in it if neccessary) 22:10 PilzAdam _2cool_, if i see this on my computer there are texture glitches 22:11 _2cool_ Oh 22:12 _2cool_ Ahh, icechat 22:12 NekoGloop Dat part message 22:12 VanessaE _2cool_: under what conditions have you seen this texture loading happen? 22:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: When havent you? 22:12 brandon__ i got a problem when trying to load a file in world edit it says its not allowd to place? 22:13 _2cool_ It's a really old computer, this is the only time it's happened, or I've ever run it 22:13 NekoGloop Dont switch windows at all while loading up a world in minetest 22:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: it doesn't appear in Linux. 22:13 _2cool_ I'll turn off the atlas next time 22:13 PilzAdam VanessaE, i see them if a load and exit many worlds without closing minetest 22:13 VanessaE just a black window and status report in the middle 22:14 NekoGloop After that 22:14 VanessaE nope 22:15 NekoGloop It flashes between every graphic ingame 22:15 _2cool_ Animated ones, animate. 22:15 NekoGloop THEN GET ON WINDOWS \:D/ 22:15 VanessaE not for me. 22:15 VanessaE just a black window until the game is ready to actually start 22:16 brandon__ i need help and windows sucks! 22:16 brandon__ i cant load files in world edit? 22:17 _2cool_ We'll need more information than that, and please don't come in here and rage next time ;) 22:18 brandon__ ok i cant load the snkight 22:18 brandon__ from the forums 22:18 _2cool_ Any error? 22:19 _2cool_ I can go far enough to help others help you, but I don't know what about worldedit 22:19 brandon__ just abunch of errors 22:20 _2cool_ I can only help others help you. 22:20 _2cool_ What version is the map built with? 22:20 brandon__ idk i dled it from the thing it says cant replace stone and air 22:21 VanessaE brandon__: exactly what does the error say? copy and paste the error messgae 22:21 VanessaE do not summarize it. 22:21 _2cool_ Or put it in pastebin if it's really long 22:21 brandon__ VanessaE, how the fuck do i do that 22:22 _2cool_ Language, plox 22:22 VanessaE um 22:22 VanessaE start by not being nasty 22:22 VanessaE then figure out how to do normal copy&paste operations on your computer - this is basic computer usage 101 here. 22:23 _2cool_ Can you paste from a error box? I forget 22:23 _2cool_ (/stupidity) 22:23 brandon__ lol i cannot copy from minetest 22:23 VanessaE copy from your error console 22:23 VanessaE (the game should have opened one when you launched it) 22:24 brandon__ VanessaE, i use linux? 22:24 VanessaE ok 22:24 VanessaE open a terminal 22:24 VanessaE launch minetest from it 22:24 VanessaE make it produce the error again 22:24 VanessaE then copy and paste. 22:25 brandon__ ok i tried that noting comes up 22:25 NakedFury check debug.txt from the bin folder 22:25 VanessaE then you did it wrong :-)_ 22:26 VanessaE brandon__: you "tried that". tried what? 22:26 VanessaE something would have come up. 22:26 brandon__ nope 22:26 VanessaE um 22:27 VanessaE what exactly did you do? 22:27 VanessaE did you open a terminal? 22:27 brandon__ hold on 22:28 brandon__ :28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,10,-59) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,9,-60) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,9,-61) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,8,-62) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (46,7,-62) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (46,6,-63) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:03: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone" at (46,5,-64) (block (2,0,-4)) 22:28 thexyz stop it 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone_with_coal" at (41,6,-68) (block (2,0,-5)) 22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH! 22:28 brandon__ 14:28:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "default:stone_with_coal" at (40,6,-68) (block (2,0,-5)) 22:28 khonkhortisan your block is not loaded 22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH! 22:28 _2cool_ Stop! you'll get K-lined! 22:28 VanessaE NOT THAT MUCH! 22:29 brandon__ ohk ohk god god 22:29 khonkhortisan or your replacement is not registered 22:29 brandon__ GUYS I COPIED AND PASTED 22:29 khonkhortisan it's a fairly common error 22:29 _2cool_ It's okay 22:29 VanessaE brandon: you implied a single error message, not a whole book :-) 22:29 brandon__ k 22:29 _2cool_ I had this quite a bit 22:29 khonkhortisan your lines came in groups it looked like you were pasting multiple times 22:29 _2cool_ How much are yyou trying to set? 22:29 brandon__ khonkhortisan, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 22:30 brandon__ idk i dled a knight statue 22:30 _2cool_ How many nodes are you trying to set? 22:30 brandon__ idk? 22:30 brandon__ lol 22:30 brandon__ ? 22:30 khonkhortisan either you're trying to place something where the world isn't loaded or your trying to create something that doesn't exist 22:30 _2cool_ stone_with_coal is not a real item 22:30 khonkhortisan most likely it's the wrong node name 22:31 brandon__ so wtf does that mean? 22:31 VanessaE brandon, what is the sequence of commands you are running? 22:31 VanessaE (the worldedit commands you are typing) 22:32 brandon__ /pos1 and //load sknight 22:32 brandon__ /pos! 22:32 brandon__ no / /pos1 22:32 _2cool_ Then 22:32 khonkhortisan default:stone_with_coal is a real item 22:32 VanessaE did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you tried to load sknight? 22:32 _2cool_ t'is? 22:33 NekoGloop What irc are you on to have those not be autorecognized as commands.? :o 22:33 khonkhortisan yes, default/init.lua line 717 22:33 brandon__ NekoGloop, 22:33 brandon__ xchat 22:33 brandon__ /pos! 22:33 VanessaE /pos1 22:33 VanessaE //pos1 22:33 VanessaE there. 22:33 khonkhortisan I just do //p set 22:33 RealBadAngel pwned 22:34 VanessaE oops 22:34 VanessaE note to self: remind fingers that Ctrl-W closes a tab. :-) 22:34 RealBadAngel hehhe 22:35 khonkhortisan it doesn't open a new window 22:35 RealBadAngel i just said 22:35 _2cool_ anyway? 22:35 RealBadAngel pwned 22:35 brandon__ so what dooo oi do 22:35 NekoGloop You stop making yourself sound like a noob 22:35 VanessaE brandon__: did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you loaded sknight? 22:35 _2cool_ Bad neko, bad 22:36 NekoGloop Meow? :o 22:37 * RealBadAngel is playin The Great Commandment again 22:37 brandon__ ok thats wierd apparently its building just hlasf way 22:38 VanessaE brandon__: did you wait for the whole map around you to load before you loaded sknight? 22:39 brandon__ lol wtf its upsie down? 22:40 _2cool_ Please use good grammar and spelling, it makes it easier for us to help you 22:40 Basstard` _2cool_: You forgot something. 22:41 _2cool_ The period? 22:46 VanessaE bbl 22:53 _2cool_ mmm that was good food 23:00 NekoGloop Lol 2cool 23:00 _2cool_ took you long enough