| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:06 |
Isabella |
bbl? |
| 00:11 |
Isabella |
whats bbl mean |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:13 |
_2cool_ |
The Minecraft end credits have a pretty powerful message... |
| 00:13 |
Isabella |
_2cool_: hiii!!! :D |
| 00:13 |
_2cool_ |
Hi |
| 00:14 |
Isabella |
anything new |
| 00:14 |
_2cool_ |
Minecraft. |
| 00:14 |
_2cool_ |
Finished in under 1 hour |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
I have pocket edition on ipad |
| 00:14 |
_2cool_ |
Epic |
| 00:15 |
NekoGloop |
I would finish it if the end was in it |
| 00:15 |
_2cool_ |
The story before the end credits seems pretty powerful |
| 00:15 |
NekoGloop |
What story lol |
| 00:15 |
_2cool_ |
There's a story after you beat the Enderdragon |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
Oh right |
| 00:20 |
Isabella |
heard about Herobrine, get the mod :) |
| 00:20 |
Isabella |
i dont have mincraft though |
| 00:21 |
_2cool_ |
thepiratebay |
| 00:21 |
_2cool_ |
I see how it is |
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* NekoGloop |
feeds the troll |
| 00:40 |
* NekoGloop |
is fed :3 |
| 00:40 |
khonkhortisan |
I have a bad habit of feeding trolls |
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| 00:46 |
Octupus |
hi |
| 00:46 |
* NekoGloop |
takes the octopus's ink |
| 00:59 |
khonkhortisan |
it proved to be fatal |
| 00:59 |
khonkhortisan |
does it bother anyone else that restarting a singleplayer game selects the first inventory item? |
| 01:00 |
NekoGloop |
Its alittle inconvienient |
| 01:02 |
hmmmm |
hmm, hey guys, what do you all have your dedicated_server_step set to? |
| 01:02 |
NekoGloop |
Idk what that is so whatever default is |
| 01:04 |
khonkhortisan |
I've only set my active_block_range |
| 01:21 |
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| 01:36 |
cornernote |
hey |
| 01:36 |
NekoGloop |
Hello cornernote |
| 01:38 |
_2cool_ |
I lol'd at this |
| 01:38 |
_2cool_ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_682789&feature=iv&src_vid=MVldeJveJNo&v=vOBlKUu1IjM |
| 01:41 |
mrtux |
I'm making a mod and a crafting recipie isn't working |
| 01:41 |
NekoGloop |
Do tell more |
| 01:42 |
mrtux |
ok |
| 01:42 |
mrtux |
this is the code: |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
minetest.register_craft({ |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
output = 'antiques:radio', |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
recipe = { |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
{'default:wood', 'antiques:speaker', 'defualt:wood'}, |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
{'default:wood', 'antiques:wire', 'default:wood'}, |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
{'default:wood', 'antiques:vtube', 'default:wood'}, |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
} |
| 01:43 |
mrtux |
}) |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
, |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
!* |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
No linespam |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
pastebin |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
too hard to read code here |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
but, it looks right |
| 01:45 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
try craft guide mod |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
see if you can get the reverse recipe |
| 01:45 |
cornernote |
is the file being loaded ? |
| 01:45 |
mrtux |
ok |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
other crafting recipies are working |
| 01:46 |
cornernote |
in the same file ? |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 01:46 |
NekoGloop |
Did you misspell something |
| 01:46 |
cornernote |
pastebin the whole file |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
Nope |
| 01:46 |
mrtux |
ok hang on |
| 01:46 |
cornernote |
thats what i was thinking |
| 01:46 |
cornernote |
misspelled recipe item |
| 01:47 |
cornernote |
craft_guide will identify if thats the case |
| 01:47 |
cornernote |
it will tell you the recipe, and one of the items will be unknownitem |
| 01:48 |
mrtux |
http://vortexlabs.tk/mod.txt |
| 01:48 |
mrtux |
that's the code |
| 01:49 |
mrtux |
i couldn't pastebin it because my computer gone into crash mode |
| 01:49 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 01:49 |
mrtux |
when firefox crashes, etc |
| 01:51 |
mrtux |
I'm installing the mod |
| 01:51 |
mrtux |
oh not again |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
you have depends.txt |
| 01:51 |
mrtux |
my pc is so slow |
| 01:51 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
with default |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 01:52 |
mrtux |
I'm going to install craft guide on my server |
| 01:53 |
mrtux |
it will look nice at the future spawn area at my server :) |
| 01:53 |
cornernote |
i ran it |
| 01:53 |
cornernote |
wont craft |
| 01:53 |
cornernote |
gimme a sec |
| 01:53 |
mrtux |
ah |
| 01:54 |
mrtux |
there are no textures too btw |
| 01:54 |
mrtux |
well there is but you don't have them |
| 01:55 |
hmmmm |
how can you guys be enjoying minetest with all its massive flaws right now? |
| 01:55 |
_2cool_ |
TROLL |
| 01:55 |
_2cool_ |
MOTHER OF |
| 01:55 |
mrtux |
Cornernote, craftguide won't work |
| 01:55 |
_2cool_ |
trolls? |
| 01:55 |
hmmmm |
.. |
| 01:55 |
hmmmm |
serious question. |
| 01:55 |
NakedFury |
every game has flaws |
| 01:55 |
mrtux |
"failed to load and run init.lua" |
| 01:55 |
hmmmm |
there are way too many here though |
| 01:55 |
NakedFury |
at minetest we just play around them |
| 01:55 |
_2cool_ |
Not even Minecraft is perfect |
| 01:55 |
_2cool_ |
like modding... |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
defualt:wood |
| 01:56 |
mrtux |
In minecrap, I loose my pets |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
are you SURE there is no typo ? |
| 01:56 |
mrtux |
that i tame |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
=) |
| 01:56 |
mrtux |
yep |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
do you have the mod defualt ? |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
whats it do ? |
| 01:56 |
NakedFury |
tell me a flaw you hate? |
| 01:56 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 01:56 |
_2cool_ |
What did you do mrtux, to make the Humane society come after you |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
whats defualt mod do ? |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
i have default, but i never heard of defualt |
| 01:56 |
_2cool_ |
It's the items that you get by default |
| 01:57 |
mrtux |
..... |
| 01:57 |
_2cool_ |
like dirt and ore and mese |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
SURE there is no typo on defualt ???? |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
read it |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
letter by letter |
| 01:57 |
_2cool_ |
oh |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
lmao |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
craft guide |
| 01:57 |
_2cool_ |
*face falls to meet palm* |
| 01:57 |
cornernote |
found it |
| 01:58 |
mrtux |
minetest is buggy.exe |
| 01:58 |
cornernote |
mrtux, do you see your typo now? |
| 01:58 |
mrtux |
nope |
| 01:58 |
cornernote |
default |
| 01:58 |
cornernote |
defualt |
| 01:58 |
cornernote |
now ? |
| 01:58 |
mrtux |
>default |
| 01:59 |
mrtux |
I did that in other mods and it worked fine |
| 01:59 |
cornernote |
search your code for "defualt:wood" |
| 01:59 |
cornernote |
you swapped the AU to UA |
| 01:59 |
cornernote |
learn to spell =) |
| 01:59 |
* cornernote |
laughs |
| 01:59 |
mrtux |
I made a typo. |
| 02:00 |
mrtux |
heh heh |
| 02:00 |
mrtux |
Sometimes I notice things easily but sometimes I don't. |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
and read what i wrote above |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
<cornernote> SURE there is no typo on defualt ???? |
| 02:00 |
cornernote |
i used the wrong spelling many times in chat here |
| 02:01 |
cornernote |
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. |
| 02:01 |
_2cool_ |
Youtube is hating me right now |
| 02:01 |
mrtux |
it_works.avi |
| 02:01 |
_2cool_ |
and I knew that |
| 02:01 |
mrtux |
I can notice other's misspellings but i can't usually find mine |
| 02:01 |
mrtux |
now if only i knew nodeboxes |
| 02:02 |
cornernote |
was really funny, i didnt even notice it until craft_guide told me which one had the issue |
| 02:02 |
mrtux |
cornernote, why isn't craft guide working? |
| 02:02 |
cornernote |
and even then i had to squint to see it |
| 02:02 |
mrtux |
it won't work for me |
| 02:02 |
cornernote |
it works for me |
| 02:02 |
cornernote |
can you give me more info ? |
| 02:02 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 02:02 |
cornernote |
what happens |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
latest git ? |
| 02:03 |
mrtux |
It says failed to load and run /path/to/craftguide/init.lua |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
ok, and some error, line number ? |
| 02:03 |
mrtux |
ok hang on |
| 02:03 |
cornernote |
in the debug.txt |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: C:\portablesoftware\mt\bin\..\mods\minetest\craftguide\in |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
it.lua: |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ...portablesoftware\mt\bin\..\builtin/misc_register.lua:6 |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
2: Name craft_guide:sign_wall does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
":" prefix required |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: [C]: in function 'error' |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ...portablesoftware\mt\bin\..\builtin/misc_register.lua: |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
62: in function 'check_modname_prefix' |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ...portablesoftware\mt\bin\..\builtin/misc_register.lua: |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
name your folder like this |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
98: in function 'register_item' |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ...portablesoftware\mt\bin\..\builtin/misc_register.lua: |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
craft_guide |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
154: in function 'register_node' |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: ...software\mt\bin\..\mods\minetest\craftguide\init.lua: |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
Name the folder "craft_guide" |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
167: in main chunk |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: =======END OF ERROR FROM LUA ======== |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
and please try to use pastebin |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
21:02:13: ERROR[main]: Server: Failed to load and run C:\portablesoftware\mt\bin |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
\..\mods\minetest\craftguide\init.lua |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
too long sorry |
| 02:04 |
NakedFury |
mrtux you have to use pastebin for this |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
STOP |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
ok |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
yeah |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
i told u the answer |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
i should |
| 02:04 |
mrtux |
it works |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
ok, good |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
www.pastebin.com -- anything more than 1-2 lines |
| 02:05 |
mrtux |
lol craftguide keeps crashing |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
error, line # ? |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
is it the latest git ? |
| 02:06 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 02:06 |
mrtux |
wait |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
cos recently there was a change |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 02:06 |
mrtux |
it's more than 1-2 lines, so i need to open firefox... |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
3 days ago |
| 02:06 |
mrtux |
i just downloaded it |
| 02:06 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 02:06 |
mrtux |
|
| 02:07 |
mrtux |
21:05:31: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...oftware\mt\bin\..\mods\m |
| 02:07 |
mrtux |
inetest\craft_guide\init.lua:308: attempt to call field 'create_detached_invento |
| 02:07 |
mrtux |
ry' (a nil value) |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
Dammit |
| 02:07 |
cornernote |
308 |
| 02:07 |
cornernote |
ok, sec |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
Stop pasting errors in the chat |
| 02:07 |
cornernote |
you have too early version of MT |
| 02:07 |
mrtux |
I have 0.4.1 |
| 02:07 |
cornernote |
you need to have the version that comes with the creative mod |
| 02:08 |
cornernote |
0.4.2.rc2 |
| 02:08 |
mrtux |
ah i see |
| 02:08 |
mrtux |
I'm sticking with 0.4.1 until 0.4.2 comes out |
| 02:08 |
cornernote |
http://c55.me/blog/ |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
It's rc1 btw |
| 02:08 |
cornernote |
but you'r making mods ? |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
Last i checked anyway |
| 02:08 |
cornernote |
rc1 sorry |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
No problem |
| 02:09 |
cornernote |
i always forget version numbers =) |
| 02:09 |
cornernote |
if your making mods, you should run the newer builds |
| 02:09 |
mrtux |
noooo |
| 02:09 |
mrtux |
I always stick to stable |
| 02:09 |
cornernote |
ok, fair enough |
| 02:09 |
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| 02:10 |
cornernote |
i hope c55 does a release for 0.4.2 soon |
| 02:10 |
mrtux |
Btw 0.4.2-rc1 doesn't have apples that spawn naturally on trees |
| 02:10 |
mrtux |
My juices mod won't work then |
| 02:10 |
mrtux |
I was told that |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
Yes it does |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
They only grow on planted saplings though |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Just not every tree |
| 02:11 |
cornernote |
1 in 5 or something |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Yes |
| 02:11 |
cornernote |
also, its pretty easy to make trees grow |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
But no wild trees will have apples |
| 02:11 |
cornernote |
mine do |
| 02:12 |
mrtux |
ah |
| 02:12 |
cornernote |
i spawn jungle tree 1/8, apple tree 1/5, and normal tree otherwise |
| 02:12 |
cornernote |
yay jungle tree =) |
| 02:12 |
mrtux |
do dry shrubs grow naturally? |
| 02:12 |
mrtux |
I noticed one on my map |
| 02:12 |
cornernote |
i think no, but not sure |
| 02:13 |
cornernote |
there are lots of growing mods too |
| 02:13 |
cornernote |
u can see how they work and grow anything you want |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
Dry shrubs generate but dont grow back |
| 02:13 |
cornernote |
spawn plants + grow |
| 02:16 |
NekoGloop |
Meow~ :3 |
| 02:19 |
mrtux |
Madchicken13 was banned? |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
I think so |
| 02:20 |
mrtux |
the forums say he is |
| 02:20 |
mrtux |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2730 <- example |
| 02:20 |
NekoGloop |
Well servers still have to ban him individually |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
Better yet, keegan was unbanned? |
| 02:23 |
mrtux |
yes |
| 02:23 |
mrtux |
he was unbanned |
| 02:26 |
cornernote |
what happened ? |
| 02:27 |
cornernote |
i saw random stuff, arguments, etc |
| 02:27 |
cornernote |
but i didnt much look into it |
| 02:27 |
cornernote |
i saw him in here, with i think it was you NekoGloop... he was blaming someone for grief on his server |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
And... Yeah, he grieffested after that |
| 02:42 |
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| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
hey guys any development on super secret mods? |
| 02:46 |
cornernote |
yes |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
big mod or medium to small? |
| 02:47 |
cornernote |
cant tell, its super secret |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
ok |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
total convertion or add on? |
| 02:48 |
cornernote |
no, not really... i just thought the question was strange |
| 02:58 |
mrtux |
i'm going to bed |
| 03:55 |
cornernote |
is there a callback when a user crafts an item ? |
| 03:57 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 03:58 |
cornernote |
hey V |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
hey hey |
| 03:58 |
cornernote |
ok, probably minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields will work |
| 03:58 |
cornernote |
i want to add achievements |
| 03:59 |
cornernote |
like, Congrats, you have crafted 100 wood |
| 03:59 |
cornernote |
it keeps a running tally type thing |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
re: dry shrubs: only in deserts, somewhat sparsely, but if you have the latest junglegrass they'll "sort of" grow back |
| 03:59 |
cornernote |
and you can see your achievements somewhere .. maybe in your inventory |
| 04:00 |
cornernote |
minetest.setting_set - does this save just in the world i am in ? |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
i should probably use that instead of writing to files |
| 04:01 |
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VanessaE |
hey RBA |
| 04:01 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
hey RBA |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
what do you think V ? |
| 04:02 |
cornernote |
replace file writes with minetest.setting_set ? |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
I dunno :-) |
| 04:02 |
cornernote |
for things like... the current starting position in skyblock |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
you're into an area I've not dealt with, |
| 04:02 |
cornernote |
its just a number |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
but I don't see a problem with creating files |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
as long as those files are stored with the current world. |
| 04:02 |
cornernote |
yes they are |
| 04:03 |
cornernote |
eg: skyblock.start_position_id |
| 04:03 |
cornernote |
int he world folder |
| 04:03 |
cornernote |
the only advantage is i save a bunch of code, dont have to define load/save fundtions for them |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
if you're writing files, you're best off storing everything from a given mod in one file with proper field names though |
| 04:03 |
VanessaE |
like minetest.conf is done for example |
| 04:04 |
cornernote |
i think minetest.setting_set() writes to minetest.conf in your world folder |
| 04:04 |
VanessaE |
mmmh |
| 04:04 |
cornernote |
which is used to override the settings in the game folder |
| 04:04 |
VanessaE |
well as long as it doesn't override other settings in ~/.minetest/minetest.conf |
| 04:05 |
cornernote |
lemme check.. |
| 04:08 |
cornernote |
damn |
| 04:08 |
cornernote |
writes to main fole |
| 04:08 |
cornernote |
ok, i'll keep my own function |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
unless the key in the ini was like .. [worldname].skyblock.start_position_id |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
[worldname].skyblock.start_position_id = 123 |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
that would work |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
but meh |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
i'll just keep it in a file |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
naw, stick to writing files manually |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
yep |
| 04:10 |
VanessaE |
or rather, *a* file. |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
i have several, because they are different data |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
one is a list of 1000 positions |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
and the other is an id of which one i am upto |
| 04:13 |
cornernote |
and then there is 1 more, a list of assigned player positions |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
ok multiple files then :D |
| 04:13 |
cornernote |
could probably merge that into the 1st file |
| 04:13 |
cornernote |
but again, meh.. it works =) |
| 04:13 |
cornernote |
if it ain't broke |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
now, |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
about spawning jungle trees. |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
gimme. |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 04:15 |
cornernote |
its based on PilzAdam's farming mod for rubber trees |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
strange place for it |
| 04:15 |
cornernote |
and i used it to make normal and jungle trees (cos mapgen is disabled) |
| 04:15 |
nutmmm2 |
I think jungle trees should be more in different shapes (more than they used to be) ect. if they were to spawn. |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
I should extend Junglegrass to be a full jungle biome generator |
| 04:15 |
cornernote |
heres my altered version of his code (makes apple 1/5, jungle 1/8, or just a normal tree) |
| 04:15 |
cornernote |
https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/blob/master/api.lua#L381 |
| 04:16 |
cornernote |
nutmmm2 i agree.. cant wait for some more tree mods |
| 04:16 |
cornernote |
i want like 5-8 different types of trees |
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| 04:17 |
nutmmm2 |
I think too many different types gets a bit annoying should be 5 max! |
| 04:17 |
cornernote |
but there are multiple biomes |
| 04:17 |
cornernote |
in the biomes that have trees, should be at least 2 types, and i'd hope for more biomes |
| 04:18 |
NakedFury |
I would like more types per biome |
| 04:18 |
nutmmm2 |
there could be only 1 type and completely different shapes. |
| 04:18 |
NakedFury |
I would do it but there is no tree generation template for me to learn |
| 04:18 |
cornernote |
if you dig through all the mods, there are a few tree types already |
| 04:18 |
NakedFury |
or biome generation template |
| 04:18 |
cornernote |
tree, jungletree, conifer, irontree, rubber tree |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
irontree? no |
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| 04:19 |
NakedFury |
trees and biomes are some thing that have yet to be taken out of source code to lua |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
cherryblossoms are nice though |
| 04:19 |
cornernote |
problem is the leaf growth is similar on all except the conifer |
| 04:19 |
cornernote |
<NakedFury> i thought there was some work done on this already ? |
| 04:19 |
NakedFury |
well I dont see that code anywhere on default mod |
| 04:19 |
cornernote |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2290 |
| 04:20 |
Splizard |
hi |
| 04:20 |
NakedFury |
ohh that |
| 04:20 |
cornernote |
ok, the core is in c++, but you can still do stuff with it, right ? |
| 04:20 |
NakedFury |
hi |
| 04:20 |
cornernote |
oh, that mod has Pine trees |
| 04:20 |
cornernote |
thats 6 trees |
| 04:21 |
NakedFury |
I would probably try 1 or 2 types per biome and different shapes for those types |
| 04:21 |
cornernote |
i hate how MT generates flat stone edges |
| 04:22 |
NakedFury |
I need to learn more about the generation so I can try to make a better world generation |
| 04:22 |
cornernote |
cant wait until there nicely curved terain, with stone-bridge formations |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: I've seen such terrain once or twice |
| 04:22 |
VanessaE |
pretty rare though |
| 04:23 |
nutmmm2 |
Someone should make a mod with lots of rare biomes! |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
i think if you put mapgen 2012 you get a nice map |
| 04:23 |
Splizard |
Biomes are fairly easy to create in lua, as long as your not generating mountains |
| 04:23 |
Splizard |
(That would most likely be to slow) |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
i tried generating only ocean |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
soooo slow |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
cos i have to do every node |
| 04:23 |
leo_rockway |
the jungle biome in MC looks really well done. It's a real jungle, you have trees growing out of control, very tall and very thick... |
| 04:23 |
cornernote |
not sure how seablock will work yet |
| 04:24 |
leo_rockway |
lots of plants all over, it's difficult to see around and to actually move, unless you destroy the leaves. |
| 04:24 |
cornernote |
cool |
| 04:24 |
cornernote |
vines and stuff i guess |
| 04:24 |
leo_rockway |
mhm |
| 04:24 |
leo_rockway |
and cocoa beans |
| 04:24 |
nutmmm2 |
Yea I quite like how they did that! |
| 04:24 |
NakedFury |
same here |
| 04:24 |
leo_rockway |
I don't care about MC. I only downloaded a copy to improve MT. |
| 04:25 |
NakedFury |
there is a mod that expands the biomes too |
| 04:25 |
leo_rockway |
to see which things we are doing right and which things we're doing wrong. |
| 04:25 |
leo_rockway |
MT feels a lot nicer to me. |
| 04:25 |
NakedFury |
so what was the conclusion? |
| 04:25 |
leo_rockway |
MT is a lot better, except we don't have mobs. |
| 04:25 |
leo_rockway |
MC is slow |
| 04:26 |
hmmmm |
MT is also slow, and the mapgen has lots of problems |
| 04:26 |
leo_rockway |
even with the leaks and the CPU problems MT feels faster |
| 04:26 |
Splizard |
What about biomes that add different grasses like MC? |
| 04:26 |
leo_rockway |
rain in MC looks very nice. So does the map feature and the compass. |
| 04:26 |
nutmmm2 |
Not really just Requires for CPU+RAM speed. |
| 04:26 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: you are right unfortunately. |
| 04:26 |
hmmmm |
when i go to place a node, there's a couple second delay between when i click my mouse and it actually appaears - locally. |
| 04:26 |
hmmmm |
and then it'll disappear |
| 04:27 |
hmmmm |
and then some of the nodes i placed will reappear maybe |
| 04:27 |
leo_rockway |
hmmmm: that's a "feature" |
| 04:27 |
leo_rockway |
it's been discussed |
| 04:27 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: and in answer to your query earlier, the lags and CPU usage does bug the shit out of many of us, but so few of us can do anything about it |
| 04:27 |
NakedFury |
some guys are working on patching leaks |
| 04:27 |
hmmmm |
that's what i've been focusing on |
| 04:27 |
leo_rockway |
hmmmm: the server keeps track of what you do, so that if it thinks you're cheating, it undoes what you just did. |
| 04:27 |
NakedFury |
viscandl I think is |
| 04:27 |
hmmmm |
i feel like the server is way too chatty |
| 04:27 |
leo_rockway |
ironically, that feature makes things even laggier. |
| 04:27 |
hmmmm |
indeed... |
| 04:28 |
hmmmm |
i'll look at that later though. first things first, need to fix the problem where the emerge queue gets stuck |
| 04:28 |
hmmmm |
then have to deal with the permanent shadows |
| 04:28 |
leo_rockway |
I think MT can surpass MC easily with a bit more time. |
| 04:28 |
hmmmm |
then have to deal with the abnormally high placed blocks |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: and fix that G*d damn mapgen lag! |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
(excuse my language) |
| 04:28 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, that's just the mudflow |
| 04:28 |
NakedFury |
some stuff still needs to be ported over to lua |
| 04:29 |
hmmmm |
i mean i'm sure it can be optimized but if you want the mapgen REALLY fast, just comment out a couple lines of code :) |
| 04:29 |
hmmmm |
you'll shit your pants |
| 04:29 |
NakedFury |
then smooth map gen and increase speed when you place nodes too |
| 04:29 |
leo_rockway |
hmmmm: I'd rather keep clean pants, but that sounds interesting. |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
then that patch needs reverted and a better one written that doesn't slow down the *client* also |
| 04:29 |
hmmmm |
the mapgen itself needs to be fixed... you can't build any real big structures because the land is WAY too hilly |
| 04:29 |
NakedFury |
increase the engine limit when using too many items in the same place too |
| 04:30 |
hmmmm |
so the obvious 'fix' is to change a couple parameters in the noise2d_perlin calls |
| 04:30 |
leo_rockway |
water in MC feels better than in MT |
| 04:30 |
hmmmm |
but that's not a fix, that's a hack |
| 04:30 |
leo_rockway |
in MT it feels like jello. |
| 04:30 |
NakedFury |
it is |
| 04:30 |
hmmmm |
what I want to do is make those parameters runtime configurable |
| 04:30 |
leo_rockway |
also, I edited my client to move faster. The default speed is kind of slow. |
| 04:30 |
leo_rockway |
player speed, that is. |
| 04:30 |
NakedFury |
also MT needs the ability to have more than 1 stuff in a node |
| 04:30 |
hmmmm |
nakedfury, ?? what do you mean |
| 04:31 |
NakedFury |
ok one sec |
| 04:31 |
NakedFury |
water |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: but my complaint isn't that the map generator sometimes takes a bit to render a new chunk. It's that sometimes it lags the shit out of the client - making it hang, making it jittery, etc. |
| 04:31 |
cornernote |
yeah, set map_meta.txt to seed = 2012 .. thats a really cool map |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
oh yes |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
hmm |
| 04:31 |
cornernote |
some nice things around |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: that should NOT happen |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
that's a much more complicated problem |
| 04:31 |
NakedFury |
we cant have water stuff without adding that thing |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
server-side stuff should NOT drag the client down! |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, the way mt works, the server is the thing that generates |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
all the client does is wait for the new chunks |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
yes I know. |
| 04:31 |
hmmmm |
so that's impossible |
| 04:32 |
hmmmm |
the problem is somewhere else |
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| 04:32 |
leo_rockway |
I should learn C++... |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
then why does the client lag out and get sluggish when the mapgen does? |
| 04:32 |
cornernote |
problem is the client cannot move to a chunk it doesnt know about... right ? |
| 04:32 |
hmmmm |
i dunno |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: if you're flying you can |
| 04:32 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, are you talking about single player? |
| 04:32 |
cornernote |
yeah, i mean in a server |
| 04:32 |
cornernote |
i have the same issue |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: yes, and occasionally on a remote server also. |
| 04:32 |
cornernote |
i join, then i have to wait ages |
| 04:32 |
hmmmm |
weird @ the remote server |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
but not so weird @ singleplayer |
| 04:33 |
cornernote |
and then i can only walk a small distance, then wait more |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
actually strike that |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
I only ever notice it in singleplayer mode |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
cornernote, you're not using a single core cpu, are you? |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, then the problem is obvious - mapgen is slow :p |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
on a server, chunks just sometimes take a while to show up. |
| 04:33 |
cornernote |
no, 8 core |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
mm |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
hrmm |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
wow, you guys are even having cpu problems |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah. |
| 04:33 |
hmmmm |
here i thought it was just me with my athlon 3500+ |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
the game should NOT zonk a 2.8GHz CPU core to 100% at all. the GPU should be doing most of the work |
| 04:34 |
hmmmm |
i'd personally love to see these sorts of things fixed rather than any new features |
| 04:34 |
cornernote |
no, its not a client cpu problem, i think its the server is having the cpu problem |
| 04:34 |
leo_rockway |
hmmmm: i3, CPU problems. All of us have them. |
| 04:34 |
NakedFury |
talking about mapgen, is it possible to change from the algorithm method we are using? |
| 04:34 |
hmmmm |
why would you want to do that? |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: good luck getting c55 to fix them - he's taking a break and seems more interested in other stuff |
| 04:34 |
cornernote |
hmmmm, we could then make better maps, biomes |
| 04:34 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, yeah i've seen that - basically right now minetest is in the state of "if you want something done, do it yourself" |
| 04:34 |
NakedFury |
there are some better algorithm for terrain than what we use |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
nakedfury, like?? |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: which is a sucky state to be in if you can't code C++ |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
really i don't think perlin noise is too bad but it seriously needs to be tuned better. |
| 04:35 |
NakedFury |
diamond square algorithm |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, it's not just knowing how to code a language |
| 04:35 |
cornernote |
hmmmm, its not hard to make something better than a flat line of stone going straight up |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
it's about having the programmer mentality |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
and being familiar with the source |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: it's having the skills to code in the game environment too |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
those are way more important |
| 04:35 |
hmmmm |
cornernote, oh? |
| 04:36 |
hmmmm |
cornernote, those cliffs are a feature |
| 04:36 |
cornernote |
indeed |
| 04:36 |
hmmmm |
you can change that if you'd like, |
| 04:36 |
cornernote |
well, they could be a little lessstraight |
| 04:36 |
hmmmm |
it's in get_rock_level or whatever it is |
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VanessaE |
I have that "programmer mentality" as you call it, after 25 years of coding. What I don't have is in-depth knowledge of the game code, or knowledge of the language it is written in. |
| 04:36 |
hmmmm |
you see where he calculates 'higher'? |
| 04:36 |
cornernote |
hmmmm, in the c++ code ? |
| 04:36 |
hmmmm |
well that's the thing |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
well yeah, everything i talk about is in the engine |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
anyway |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
nah you're right |
| 04:37 |
cornernote |
<hmmmm> why would you want to do that? |
| 04:37 |
cornernote |
well, thats the reason |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
this is better off as a mod, but you'd need to figure out how to detect a cliff |
| 04:37 |
Tekk_ |
I know some C |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
this isn't directly caused by the algorithm he's using |
| 04:37 |
Tekk_ |
and I've looked in the minetest source a bit, seems clean enough |
| 04:37 |
cornernote |
if all mapgen was a mod, would be much easier |
| 04:37 |
hmmmm |
alright |
| 04:37 |
cornernote |
i dont know that much c++, and moving c++ to lua isnt easy for me |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
you don't want to do that |
| 04:38 |
Tekk_ |
can someone use a profiler and send me an output image? |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
the mapgen is mostly in C++ for a reason |
| 04:38 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: told me about the issue o.o |
| 04:38 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: there's also the issue that cornernote noticed: you get huge walls of stone. |
| 04:38 |
cornernote |
whats the reason ? |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
uhm, speed |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: easily done. if pos.{y-5 or y+5} = air at pos.{x or z}{+ or -1} then assume it's a cliff :-) |
| 04:38 |
leo_rockway |
cornernote: Lua is slow. |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
you think the mapgen is slow right now? |
| 04:38 |
cornernote |
ok, cant we register it in lua |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
put it in lua and then watch it |
| 04:39 |
cornernote |
it still runs in c++ |
| 04:39 |
Tekk_ |
I haven't found the mapgen slow, personally |
| 04:39 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: guide me on the profiler? Valgrind? |
| 04:39 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, if you want to carve out holes/whatever in cliffs with mapgen.lua, that's a good way to do it i guess |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: I was joking :-) |
| 04:39 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: kcachegrind |
| 04:39 |
cornernote |
yes, i want to |
| 04:39 |
hmmmm |
lol |
| 04:39 |
cornernote |
not only holes |
| 04:39 |
Tekk_ |
it'll give you an output image |
| 04:39 |
cornernote |
but connecting cliffs |
| 04:39 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: installing. |
| 04:40 |
hmmmm |
connecting cliffs is harder |
| 04:40 |
cornernote |
awesome cliff structures |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
but fuck putting the map generator into lua. it's slow enough as it is. |
| 04:40 |
hmmmm |
>< |
| 04:40 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: how do I use it? |
| 04:40 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: dunno |
| 04:40 |
Tekk_ |
it's kde, you have help files o.o |
| 04:40 |
leo_rockway |
>.< |
| 04:42 |
NakedFury |
is the snow biome the best way to go about making biomes? |
| 04:44 |
hmmmm |
cornernote: if you want to make cliffs holier, i guess what you could do is have base_rock_level_2d return a second value by ref or whatever, if (higher * a > 15) or whatever, *is_cliff = true; |
| 04:44 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: working on learning this. |
| 04:45 |
cornernote |
this is a cool page |
| 04:45 |
cornernote |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Map_Generator_Evolution |
| 04:45 |
hmmmm |
and then in make_block after that call |
| 04:45 |
hmmmm |
right before you fill the ground with stone |
| 04:46 |
hmmmm |
you can make some 2d noise and then vmanip.m_data[i] = MapNode(c_air) |
| 04:46 |
hmmmm |
there's an example of how to do that... |
| 04:46 |
cornernote |
hrmmm, i know enough c++ to get myself in trouble.. i dont think i'll be changing mapgen if i have to learn more c++ |
| 04:46 |
hmmmm |
right below |
| 04:47 |
hmmmm |
where the caves are genreated |
| 04:47 |
cornernote |
but thanks for taking time to explain what needs to be done |
| 04:47 |
hmmmm |
well cave amount |
| 04:47 |
hmmmm |
ya i can do it right now but i'm working on getting it fast |
| 04:47 |
hmmmm |
but mapgen is also a big pain in the butt |
| 04:47 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I figured it out. I'll send you the profile in a bit. |
| 04:47 |
hmmmm |
i should get that fast, and then i can rule out the more hidden cpu problems |
| 04:48 |
leo_rockway |
I can't even start the game with valgrind running :S |
| 04:48 |
cornernote |
Version 5 -- Official mapgen for version 0.3.1 .. this one was awesome |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
what would it take to rip out the current mapgen and re-use the 0.3.1 one? (but tweaked for the current map file format of course) |
| 04:49 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: may lose you for a sec |
| 04:49 |
Tekk_ |
nope, ssh didn't restart |
| 04:49 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: o.o |
| 04:49 |
leo_rockway |
okay |
| 04:49 |
leo_rockway |
I'll go brush my teeth anyway |
| 04:49 |
leo_rockway |
profiler is running, the game is still loading |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
(I'd help out with this profiling thing if I knew what I was doing :D ) |
| 04:50 |
cornernote |
rivers and waterfalls would be sweet in a mapgen |
| 04:50 |
hmmmm |
well it's not much of a help because we already know where the big cpu problems are |
| 04:50 |
Tekk_ |
oh, where? |
| 04:50 |
hmmmm |
one of them is being fixed (SendBlocks) |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: I've been wondering something: |
| 04:51 |
hmmmm |
another cpu problem is the map gen mudflow |
| 04:51 |
Tekk_ |
so algorithmic, great |
| 04:51 |
Tekk_ |
won't be too much help there |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
when I view the built-in profiler output, I notice the server is sending a continuous stream of data even when there's nothing to do e.g. I've been standing in one place for like 1-2 minutes. Shouldn't this be trimmed? |
| 04:52 |
Tekk_ |
how continuous? |
| 04:52 |
Tekk_ |
too much to be just keepalives? |
| 04:52 |
hmmmm |
cornernote: waterfalls will come from rivers... i already know how to do that, it's strictly a Lua mapgen thing though |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
lemme look again |
| 04:52 |
hmmmm |
VanessaE, yea |
| 04:52 |
hmmmm |
there are three packets sent every server step regardless of activity |
| 04:53 |
hmmmm |
I need to look at what they are (if you noticed i asked this in #minetest-dev and didn't even get a reply) |
| 04:53 |
cornernote |
hmmmm, that will be awesome |
| 04:53 |
Tekk_ |
any idea of the contents? |
| 04:53 |
hmmmm |
not really |
| 04:53 |
hmmmm |
i'd have to dig through the source to find out |
| 04:53 |
hmmmm |
=/ |
| 04:53 |
Tekk_ |
not really |
| 04:54 |
Tekk_ |
isn't the protocol posted anywhere? |
| 04:54 |
hmmmm |
oh yeah, it's probably on the wiki come to think about it |
| 04:54 |
hmmmm |
i need to sit down and read it some |
| 04:54 |
NakedFury |
well I leave you guys to create magic |
| 04:54 |
NakedFury |
need to sleep |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
lemme give it a minute to settle out |
| 04:54 |
hmmmm |
I'd look at Server::AsyncRunStep if i wanted to see what's being sent so much though |
| 04:55 |
hmmmm |
vanessae, set dedicated_server_step = 0.35 and it'll help cpu usage a surprising amount |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1372917004.png |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
there. bottom left corner. |
| 04:55 |
hmmmm |
i have NO clue why it needs to be sent every 50 milliseconds... that's nuts |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
all of the map visible from that particular location is already long since been loaded. |
| 04:57 |
Tekk_ |
so the spacing on there is ~50 ms? |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
Tekk_: in the client_received_block line I think those are 1/3 or 1/4-second steps |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: holy shit |
| 04:57 |
Tekk_ |
probably a bit of braindeadness in some of the coding, if you go to somewhere with new stuff being loaded, are the packets at about the same interval? |
| 04:58 |
leo_rockway |
well, the profiling of starting the game and moving around for like 2 seconds is done.... I'll upload it just in case anyway. |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
Tekk_: this isn't the default.....why? |
| 04:58 |
Tekk_ |
VanessaE: just wondering if something in minetest just happened to set the timing to every 50 ms on sends |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
but obviously it is actually reactive to load |
| 04:59 |
leo_rockway |
http://leorockway.com.ar/callgrind.out.10372 |
| 04:59 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: ^ |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
Tekk_: beats me - I have large number of mods but even without any installed the game is slow and memory-hungry |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
(I'm saying 40 ms, but that's what hmmmm seemed to be saying) |
| 04:59 |
leo_rockway |
you can open that with kcachegrind |
| 04:59 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: even without mods and without fancy trees and fancy clouds. |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
403 |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
you hate me :D |
| 04:59 |
leo_rockway |
what? o.0 how!? |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
put it in tekk.com.ar/files/ |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
I know that's good |
| 04:59 |
Tekk_ |
OH |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
nope, tekk.com.ar works |
| 05:00 |
hmmmm |
Tekk_ if you look in minetest.conf.example it has dedicated_server_step = 0.05 commented out... times in minetest are measured in seconds (if a float) |
| 05:00 |
hmmmm |
which translates to 50 ms per step |
| 05:00 |
hmmmm |
step/tick/whatever |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
fancy trees/clouds don't affect the speed of my game, so I leave them enabled. |
| 05:00 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: you and your lighttpd magic o.o |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
figured it may have been something with the new lighttpd |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
yeah |
| 05:00 |
hmmmm |
which is nuts |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
not me, I think |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
just check your permissions |
| 05:00 |
Tekk_ |
yeah, it's just that file |
| 05:00 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: okay, moved it. |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: seems to me that something on the order of 1/2 second per step is more reasonable than 1/20 |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
oh, it was the file |
| 05:01 |
hmmmm |
yea :) |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
I see |
| 05:01 |
hmmmm |
I have it 1/3 right now |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
hence the 0.35 |
| 05:01 |
hmmmm |
and Starcraft has it 1/4 |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: https://tekk.com.ar/files/callgrind.out.10372 |
| 05:01 |
Tekk_ |
-rw------- 1 leo leo 2.1M Aug 23 00:58 callgrind.out.10372 |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
it was rw------- |
| 05:01 |
Tekk_ |
that would be why |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
mhm |
| 05:01 |
leo_rockway |
I chmod 777 |
| 05:02 |
Tekk_ |
works now |
| 05:02 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: anyway, open that with kcachegrind and work your magic o.o |
| 05:02 |
leo_rockway |
just a heads up, in case it matters: I have irrlicht svn |
| 05:02 |
Tekk_ |
don't think so, if others have it |
| 05:03 |
leo_rockway |
other have Irrlicht stable |
| 05:03 |
leo_rockway |
1.7 or whatever it is |
| 05:03 |
leo_rockway |
others* |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
what does -svn do that -stable doesn't? |
| 05:03 |
leo_rockway |
I installed svn to see if that had anything to do... |
| 05:03 |
Tekk_ |
absolutely nothing, leo_rockway just likes to be bleeding edge because it makes him feel powerful |
| 05:03 |
Tekk_ |
:P |
| 05:03 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE: it makes your text and textboxes both white :S |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
ha |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
ooo this isn't good |
| 05:04 |
leo_rockway |
but, what Tekk_ said. |
| 05:04 |
Tekk_ |
nah, it's fine |
| 05:04 |
Tekk_ |
it'll be fixed before it becomes stable |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: since making that server step change, now the game is crashy |
| 05:04 |
leo_rockway |
I like building stuff from git/svn/hg for kicks sometimes. |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
(segfault) |
| 05:04 |
hmmmm |
oh wow? |
| 05:04 |
hmmmm |
well there's a bug |
| 05:04 |
Tekk_ |
hmm |
| 05:04 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: do we actually need bash for anything? |
| 05:05 |
hmmmm |
it's good that it crashed because we know there's something wrong |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
lemme puch it through gdb and see what happens |
| 05:05 |
Tekk_ |
when I need a bourne shell I use dash |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
push* |
| 05:05 |
hmmmm |
hahaha |
| 05:05 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I don't use it. Do Debian initscripts have bashisms? |
| 05:05 |
hmmmm |
no luck there |
| 05:05 |
hmmmm |
for gdb to be useful you need to have it compiled for debug |
| 05:05 |
Tekk_ |
I think that was one of the release goals for squeeze |
| 05:05 |
Tekk_ |
convert them all to dash |
| 05:05 |
hmmmm |
which is really slow |
| 05:05 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I use zsh, so it's fine by me if we don't have bash. |
| 05:05 |
Tekk_ |
I should probably actually use zsh instead of dash |
| 05:05 |
Tekk_ |
when I need a bourne |
| 05:06 |
Tekk_ |
alias jason /usr/bin/zsh |
| 05:06 |
leo_rockway |
hmmmm: how to compile for debug? |
| 05:06 |
Tekk_ |
another one to add to my neverending list of joke aliases |
| 05:06 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: Ethan had alias chucknorrissays='sudo' |
| 05:06 |
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| 05:07 |
VanessaE_ |
HAH |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE_ |
THIS looks like a job for the Magic SysRq key! |
| 05:07 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: a really nice one that you could probably use |
| 05:07 |
Tekk_ |
alias paux "ps aux | grep" |
| 05:07 |
leo_rockway |
Raising Elephants, woohoo! |
| 05:07 |
nutmmm2 |
..? |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE_ |
I dunno what happened there but my computer went byebye :-) |
| 05:08 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: aux isn't all *nix compatible :S at work I find myself always going for aux and failing miserably. |
| 05:08 |
leo_rockway |
-ef |
| 05:08 |
Tekk_ |
ps a? |
| 05:08 |
leo_rockway |
maybe, I'll check next time |
| 05:08 |
Tekk_ |
ah |
| 05:08 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: ps -e |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
-e is posix for ps a |
| 05:09 |
leo_rockway |
yup, we use -ef |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
yep -ef == aux |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
and it works in everything |
| 05:09 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: did you see the profiling stuff? does that make any sense to you? |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
NOOOOO |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
there's no emacs |
| 05:09 |
Tekk_ |
how will I survive? |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE_ |
use vi? ;-) |
| 05:10 |
leo_rockway |
oh, brave new world... |
| 05:10 |
Tekk_ |
colemak :/ |
| 05:10 |
Tekk_ |
unless I steal leo_rockway's config |
| 05:10 |
leo_rockway |
ooh, like emacs and colemak do go well together... |
| 05:10 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I never remapped |
| 05:10 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: they do |
| 05:10 |
Tekk_ |
emacs+colemak is better than emacs+qwerty |
| 05:10 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: there's a remap online, though |
| 05:10 |
Tekk_ |
I couldn't find it in 2010 :P |
| 05:10 |
leo_rockway |
http://forum.colemak.com/viewtopic.php?id=50 |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE_ |
well at least now I have the latest kernel running. My computer was due for a reboot anyway. |
| 05:11 |
Tekk_ |
which is why I switched to emacs |
| 05:11 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I use vimperator without any remap |
| 05:13 |
leo_rockway |
suddenly, silence o.o |
| 05:13 |
hmmmm |
leo_rockway, i assume -DDEBUG |
| 05:13 |
hmmmm |
or -D_DEBUG |
| 05:13 |
hmmmm |
idk |
| 05:14 |
hmmmm |
never had to do that before |
| 05:14 |
leo_rockway |
okay, I'll check it out, thank you. |
| 05:15 |
leo_rockway |
from README.txt |
| 05:15 |
leo_rockway |
- You can select between Release and Debug build by -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=<Debug or Release> |
| 05:15 |
hmmmm |
oh :)! |
| 05:15 |
hmmmm |
heh |
| 05:15 |
leo_rockway |
that helped, hehe |
| 05:16 |
leo_rockway |
I'll build now |
| 05:17 |
Tekk_ |
:/ |
| 05:17 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: did you get another out generated? |
| 05:18 |
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| 05:18 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: no, why? |
| 05:18 |
leo_rockway |
I can get another if you want me to |
| 05:18 |
Tekk_ |
because that's the wrong thread |
| 05:18 |
leo_rockway |
I'm rebuilding with debugging symbols |
| 05:18 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: meaning? |
| 05:19 |
Tekk_ |
it's useless o.o |
| 05:19 |
leo_rockway |
how do I produce a useful out? |
| 05:19 |
Tekk_ |
dunno |
| 05:19 |
Tekk_ |
with lusu it gave me different outs |
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| 05:19 |
Tekk_ |
so I'd get like 3 from running |
| 05:20 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: how did you run it? |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE_ |
hmmmm: I think you can ignore the segfault. must have been due to some update I brought in that needed the restart or something |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE_ |
seems ok now. |
| 05:22 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: don't worry about it |
| 05:22 |
hmmmm |
err no... if you're having trouble replicating it that means it's even worse |
| 05:22 |
Tekk_ |
I'll get around to profililg myself |
| 05:22 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: petaQ! you made me install these tools, I might as well use them now o.o |
| 05:22 |
Tekk_ |
the hell |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE_ |
heh ok |
| 05:22 |
Tekk_ |
apparently AOL is on the default debian trust list |
| 05:22 |
Tekk_ |
for certs |
| 05:22 |
hmmmm |
just keep on the lookout for it |
| 05:22 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: heh |
| 05:22 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE_: and install debugging symbols o.o |
| 05:23 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: look up callgrind |
| 05:23 |
Tekk_ |
that'll generate call.outs for you |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE_ |
hmmmm: sure |
| 05:23 |
Tekk_ |
which you can then open up in kcache |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE_ |
leo_rockway: I'll leave that to someone else |
| 05:23 |
leo_rockway |
Tekk_: I used valgrind --tool=callgrind minetest |
| 05:23 |
leo_rockway |
VanessaE_: yup, already did. |
| 05:24 |
Tekk_ |
that's what I did |
| 05:24 |
Tekk_ |
weird |
| 05:24 |
leo_rockway |
useful tip: headphones work better when they are plugged in. |
| 05:25 |
leo_rockway |
Reading symbols from /usr/bin/minetest...(no debugging symbols found)...done. |
| 05:25 |
leo_rockway |
>.< |
| 05:25 |
leo_rockway |
so, I don't know what I'm doing anymore. |
| 05:26 |
leo_rockway |
I'm standing doing nothing and new threads are being generated like crazy |
| 05:37 |
Tekk_ |
leo_rockway: we're officially on wheezy |
| 05:37 |
leo_rockway |
\o/ woohoo |
| 05:39 |
* GTRsdk |
is finding that the ideal control panel for minetest is not working as planned... |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: you here? |
| 05:45 |
GTRsdk |
Is any sensitive data outputted to the console minetest is running from? |
| 05:45 |
Tekk_ |
define sensitive |
| 05:46 |
GTRsdk |
passwords |
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| 05:49 |
VanessaE_ |
hey RealBadAngel |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Vanessa |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry that im jumpin in n out |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE_ |
s'ok |
| 05:49 |
RealBadAngel |
was installin some soft |
| 05:50 |
RealBadAngel |
so a few reboots were needed |
| 05:51 |
RealBadAngel |
ive done water pumping |
| 05:51 |
RealBadAngel |
to the tank by now |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE_ |
coool |
| 05:51 |
RealBadAngel |
thinkin now bout flooding |
| 05:52 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean how to pump all that water out of the tank |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE_ |
right |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE_ |
well, one way might be to look for valves on both side pipe fittings |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE_ |
well no |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
no no |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE_ |
hm |
| 05:53 |
RealBadAngel |
im talkin now bout how to place the water nodes |
| 05:53 |
VanessaE_ |
ohh |
| 05:54 |
RealBadAngel |
to make nice floodin effect |
| 05:54 |
RealBadAngel |
when water gets off the pipeline |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE_ |
pos=outlet pos. water to pos.x{+ or -1}, pos.y+1, pos.z{+ or -1} |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE_ |
(but never directly above) |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
but when taken? |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE_ |
as well as all sides of the outlet of course. |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE_ |
when taken? hm |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
theres more water |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE_ |
search outward for the next closest non-water-source? |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE_ |
of it's air or water_flowing make it water_source |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE_ |
if* |
| 05:56 |
RealBadAngel |
we are talkin now how to fill the sea problem :) |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE_ |
yes |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE_ |
same thibng |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE_ |
same thing - if you only ever fill air and water_flowing nodes, you'll get that effect |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE_ |
and you'll flood the lake if you start looking at pos.y+1 and higher ;-) |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE_ |
wait |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE_ |
ok |
| 05:57 |
VanessaE_ |
I got it |
| 05:57 |
RealBadAngel |
yes? |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE_ |
first search straight down from the water outlet until you hit the first non-air node. |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE_ |
non-air/non-water-flowing. |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE_ |
ok, |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE_ |
then step back up by 1, so you're pointing at the air or water-flowing that's above the dirt/stone/whatever |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE_ |
if it's air or water-flowing, place water_source |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE_ |
if it's anything else, search sideways aroudn that point |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE_ |
first spot you find to dump water, put it there |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE_ |
if you've searched the whole way around and find no place to put a new water node, step up one, return to the X/Z spot under the outlet, start your search anew |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE_ |
keep doing that until you run out of water nodes to add. |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE_ |
even if that means searching *above* the outlet. |
| 06:01 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE_ |
but limit your search diameter from center to maybe 30 or 40 nodes |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE_ |
(if you search too much you might drag the CPU down) |
| 06:01 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 06:02 |
RealBadAngel |
or maybe use the built in search? |
| 06:02 |
RealBadAngel |
dont remember the name |
| 06:02 |
RealBadAngel |
find in radius or somethin |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE_ |
oh yes |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE_ |
- find_node_near(pos, radius, nodenames) -> pos or nil |
| 06:03 |
RealBadAngel |
and limit the y just |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE_ |
well I don't think that particular one can be limited to only an X/Z search |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE_ |
unless... |
| 06:04 |
RealBadAngel |
what? |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE_ |
maybe radius can be a table of radii? |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE_ |
e.g. {30,1,30} |
| 06:05 |
RealBadAngel |
will check it |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE_ |
either way I presume it returns the position of the first found node (you'll search for "air" and "water_source" I guess) |
| 06:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm i just thought somethin different |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE_ |
? |
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| 06:07 |
RealBadAngel |
what if player builds closed volume for the fluid? |
| 06:07 |
RealBadAngel |
such search will extend volume borders and put the fluids outside |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE_ |
then you just don't remove water from the tanks or place new nodes - treat it as a large tank |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE_ |
hrm |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE_ |
good point |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE_ |
this may require it to be done manually |
| 06:08 |
RealBadAngel |
kind fill algorithm needed? |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE_ |
yeah |
| 06:09 |
RealBadAngel |
*kinda |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE_ |
I think that will be slow |
| 06:09 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm |
| 06:09 |
RealBadAngel |
we could try |
| 06:09 |
RealBadAngel |
it could be done just once |
| 06:10 |
RealBadAngel |
when you put grate |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE_ |
do it when the |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE_ |
yeah |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE_ |
use - find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, nodenames) -> list of positions |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE_ |
store the node names in a table or so, search the table later during the pumping routine |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE_ |
or store the positions rather |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE_ |
hrm |
| 06:11 |
RealBadAngel |
can store them in grate's meta |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE_ |
no |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE_ |
bad idea |
| 06:11 |
RealBadAngel |
why? |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE_ |
won't that metadata get carried along with the grate when it is dug/moved? |
| 06:11 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE_ |
oh ok |
| 06:11 |
RealBadAngel |
will be lost |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE_ |
ok, so we pre-fill a table/metadata block with something like stone or dirt, anything non-air, then search the area around the outlet and change entries in that data block according to the results of the search |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE_ |
and then only search that data block when the mod needs to place a water node. |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE_ |
starting at wherever the outlet grate was |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE_ |
using the "fill algorithm" I described |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE_ |
(we want this to behave like water would in the real world, if the real world were made of cubes ;-) ) |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE_ |
then you could easily search a radius of hundreds of nodes quickly |
| 06:19 |
RealBadAngel |
im readin now |
| 06:19 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/6017/QuickFill-An-efficient-flood-fill-algorithm |
| 06:19 |
* VanessaE_ |
reads |
| 06:19 |
RealBadAngel |
nodes are just pixels, right? |
| 06:19 |
VanessaE_ |
yeah |
| 06:20 |
RealBadAngel |
so lets use just graphics fill algorithms |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE_ |
and we only need a 2d fill anyway, we can do the +/-Y part manually |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
just some restrictions will be needed |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
like you said 30-40 nodes |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_ |
*nod* like limiting the search distance |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_ |
but, |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_ |
if we can search farther without a huge CPU load, then it makes sense to take it farther |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
when player will be tryin to fill a volume, it will fill it up |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_ |
up to some reasonable limit of course. searching 1000 nodes from an outlet would be stupid :-) |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
when put on open ground |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
then the limits will make borders |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE_ |
right, at which point the game's normal flowing water code takes over |
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| 06:24 |
RealBadAngel |
will make it so: |
| 06:24 |
VanessaE_ |
I wish there was a way to disable the server's normal creation of infinite water/lava though |
| 06:24 |
RealBadAngel |
each try to pump out the water i will call the flood_fill routine |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and look for a free node |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE_ |
wait, idea |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
when found, will pump it out, when return false, pump will be jammed |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE_ |
each time flood-fill is called, let it return an extra result: if the area can't be filled, it should say so. next time the same routine is called it can exit immediately based on that last status |
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RealBadAngel |
not good idea |
| 06:26 |
RealBadAngel |
player can make a hole in a volume |
| 06:27 |
RealBadAngel |
search shall be done every pump tick |
| 06:27 |
RealBadAngel |
its not on world step, its just once a second |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
shall not cause lags i think |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE_ |
ok |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE_ |
oof, quickfill is quite a bit of code... |
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| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
but we want to get from it just one pixel at the time |
| 06:38 |
RealBadAngel |
not all of them |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE_ |
true |
| 06:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and that shall not be laggy |
| 06:39 |
cornernote |
i dropped out |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
and i see you were talking about filling the sea |
| 06:40 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE_ |
wb cornernote |
| 06:40 |
RealBadAngel |
hi cornernote |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
what did i miss ? |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
<RealBadAngel> player can make a hole in a volume |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
* Disconnected |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
from there |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE_ |
sure, we're at the part of hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy where slarti is showing arthur how the world rebuild is going :-) |
| 06:40 |
cornernote |
is there an irc log ? |
| 06:41 |
RealBadAngel |
you havent missed much |
| 06:41 |
cornernote |
ok, so no good solution to fill the ocean ? |
| 06:41 |
RealBadAngel |
why, there is |
| 06:41 |
VanessaE_ |
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/6017/QuickFill-An-efficient-flood-fill-algorithm |
| 06:41 |
VanessaE_ |
this |
| 06:41 |
cornernote |
looking |
| 06:41 |
RealBadAngel |
simple graphics fill algorithm |
| 06:41 |
RealBadAngel |
nodes are pixels |
| 06:42 |
RealBadAngel |
whatever is not air or flowin water makes border |
| 06:42 |
cornernote |
thats just 2d ? |
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RealBadAngel |
2d, 3d, 4d doesnt matter |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
rules are the same |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: easy. try to fill a horizontal area - if already full step up pos.y+1 and try again |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
then step up |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
and again |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
voila, sea filled ;) |
| 06:44 |
cornernote |
i want to go down |
| 06:44 |
cornernote |
to infinity |
| 06:44 |
RealBadAngel |
make a hole in the bottom of the sea then lol |
| 06:44 |
cornernote |
well, maybe not.. i can still die on the floor |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE_ |
we start filling at the lowest air node below the outlet pipe :-) |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE_ |
search upward from there, even if that means you have to go down 10000 nodes to find land ;-) |
| 06:44 |
cornernote |
on, you're talking about pipes |
| 06:44 |
khonkhortisan |
so realistic flooding? |
| 06:45 |
RealBadAngel |
kinda |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE_ |
more or less, within limits of the game |
| 06:45 |
cornernote |
i thought you were talking about a way to make a sea (like a mapgen sea) |
| 06:45 |
GTRsdk |
4d? has anyone had luck setting anythign 4d up? |
| 06:45 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 06:45 |
cornernote |
yes, i play in 4d (if you count time) |
| 06:45 |
RealBadAngel |
4d was just a joke ;) |
| 06:45 |
khonkhortisan |
I like 4d. There's a 4d maze game on the internet |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: wouldn't at just be if node(pos) = air then add_node(pos, "air") or so? :-) |
| 06:46 |
khonkhortisan |
http://www.urticator.net/maze/ |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE_ |
(for all Y below whatever sea level would in your mod) |
| 06:46 |
cornernote |
VanessaE, yes... but thats UBER slow to fill the area with water |
| 06:46 |
RealBadAngel |
damn |
| 06:46 |
RealBadAngel |
sea is a big thingy |
| 06:46 |
khonkhortisan |
playable if you cross your eyes |
| 06:46 |
RealBadAngel |
it SHALL take some time to fill it |
| 06:47 |
RealBadAngel |
i played with minecraft pumps |
| 06:47 |
cornernote |
i tried this - https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/blob/master/api.lua#L289 |
| 06:47 |
RealBadAngel |
it took 2 days to pump out big lava lake in the nether |
| 06:47 |
RealBadAngel |
not 2 game days |
| 06:47 |
khonkhortisan |
so sometime far off into the future we'll launch cannonballs at ships and have to pump the water out |
| 06:48 |
RealBadAngel |
just 2 days irl |
| 06:48 |
cornernote |
was way too slow to generate all the sea |
| 06:49 |
RealBadAngel |
btw |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
when started new world |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i think creative shall be one-time option to pick up |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
so, you could make creative worlds |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
or adventure worlds |
| 06:51 |
cornernote |
its a tickbox when you start the server |
| 06:51 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 06:51 |
RealBadAngel |
and then u can go there and back |
| 06:51 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean once world is created that box shouldn apply |
| 06:52 |
cornernote |
i see |
| 06:52 |
cornernote |
its only there for singleplayer on new player |
| 06:52 |
cornernote |
if singleplayer exists then dont allow it |
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| 06:52 |
cornernote |
but what if you're not finished loading your world ? |
| 06:53 |
RealBadAngel |
it should be an option when creating new world |
| 06:53 |
cornernote |
maybe as soon as non-singleplayer joins, its disabled |
| 06:53 |
RealBadAngel |
not a login option |
| 06:54 |
RealBadAngel |
so, you create new world, set it to creative, and then it is permamently in creative mode |
| 06:54 |
RealBadAngel |
uncheck it, and the world is in adventure mode |
| 06:54 |
RealBadAngel |
no possibility to switch |
| 06:56 |
cornernote |
you could do that |
| 06:56 |
cornernote |
in the creative mod, just check if CM is off, save a setting to never allow it |
| 06:56 |
RealBadAngel |
that makes sense |
| 06:57 |
RealBadAngel |
creative is kinda cheat mode |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE_ |
but consider: |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE_ |
what if the user/player is making a world in creative mode to be used by others later as part of some adventure world in survival mode? |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE_ |
i.e. using creative mode to build it up easier before distrubution |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
and "unmature" players when given option to cheat, they do |
| 06:58 |
VanessaE_ |
distribution* |
| 06:58 |
khonkhortisan |
or making a mesecon machine where the difficulty is in designing it rather than getting resources |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, exactly |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
test somethin on creative? alrite |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
but then you go to adventure |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
dig for resources |
| 06:58 |
RealBadAngel |
build it |
| 06:59 |
RealBadAngel |
develop your world |
| 06:59 |
RealBadAngel |
no free chips |
| 07:00 |
RealBadAngel |
you were run out of copper? dig it |
| 07:01 |
RealBadAngel |
all kinds of cheats ruin the gameplay |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE_ |
idea: if the user stores lava in a tank, they have only a short time to use it (maybe 7 game days) before it hardens inside the tank, rendering the tank useless |
| 07:01 |
RealBadAngel |
and imho, shall be completely disabled in normal gameplay, no matter what |
| 07:02 |
khonkhortisan |
then you need controlled amounts of dynamite to clear the concrete mixer truck |
| 07:02 |
RealBadAngel |
no fly, no speed, no creative |
| 07:02 |
khonkhortisan |
no teleporters? no cars? |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE_ |
khonkhortisan: no, I believe they went quite uncontrolled with that ;D |
| 07:03 |
RealBadAngel |
why? u can build them |
| 07:03 |
RealBadAngel |
i said no cheats |
| 07:03 |
RealBadAngel |
for that we can still have creative mode |
| 07:03 |
khonkhortisan |
Even if worldedit was capable of copying node metadata, on_construct would wipe it out anyway. |
| 07:04 |
VanessaE_ |
khonkhortisan: remember, recreate the situation, replicate the results, then add LOTS of explosives for a big boom :-) |
| 07:04 |
RealBadAngel |
take meta, copy it to table |
| 07:04 |
RealBadAngel |
place node |
| 07:04 |
RealBadAngel |
reconstruct meta |
| 07:04 |
RealBadAngel |
QED |
| 07:05 |
RealBadAngel |
same is for every kind of node, even uCs |
| 07:07 |
RealBadAngel |
i do copy inventories etc |
| 07:07 |
RealBadAngel |
all the meta stored in a node |
| 07:07 |
RealBadAngel |
i need such ways for networked chests |
| 07:17 |
VanessaE_ |
zzz |
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RealBadAngel |
im gonna be afk |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE_ |
doing what? :-) |
| 07:25 |
RealBadAngel |
cleanin |
| 07:25 |
RealBadAngel |
we gonna have IRS control later today |
| 07:25 |
VanessaE_ |
just kidding anyway :-) |
| 07:25 |
RealBadAngel |
need to clean mess made by our workers |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
its pointless anyway, but better do that |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE_ |
bbl, time to try to sleep |
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| 08:32 |
RealBadAngel |
made a break, went for nearby apple tree |
| 08:32 |
RealBadAngel |
circa 20kg of apples collected :) |
| 08:33 |
RealBadAngel |
yummy |
| 08:34 |
RealBadAngel |
now need to buy sugar, some spices |
| 08:34 |
RealBadAngel |
and will make apple jam |
| 08:35 |
RealBadAngel |
lol, will craft it hehehe |
| 08:38 |
jin_xi |
cool |
| 08:39 |
izua |
you should buy hair |
| 08:39 |
izua |
and mash it |
| 08:39 |
izua |
and layer apple mush / hair / apple mush / hair |
| 08:39 |
izua |
press the juice out of the hair |
| 08:39 |
izua |
add yeasts |
| 08:39 |
izua |
and make cider |
| 08:40 |
jin_xi |
he's a beer man... |
| 08:40 |
RealBadAngel |
heheh |
| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
that is gonna be used for cakes, pancakes etc |
| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
no alcohol at all ;) |
| 08:41 |
cornernote |
skyblock is now seablock ready |
| 08:41 |
cornernote |
you can have an ocean of water or lava |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
i just posted same i told here |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
disable fly in skyblock |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
basically an abm to turn flowing water into water if y<2 |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
how ? |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
its a permission thing |
| 08:42 |
cornernote |
you need permission to fly |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
check if its set |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
print message |
| 08:42 |
RealBadAngel |
and loop |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
so no go when its set |
| 08:43 |
cornernote |
just dont fly |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
lusers are so, that havin an option to cheat |
| 08:43 |
cornernote |
its open source, player can just change it to allow themselves to fly |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
they will use it |
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RealBadAngel |
and then will say, nah, it was easy |
| 08:44 |
RealBadAngel |
look |
| 08:44 |
RealBadAngel |
ive made once diablo 2 item generator |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
was able to do ANY stuff |
| 08:45 |
cornernote |
i know what you mean |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
before whole students hostel was playin all the time |
| 08:45 |
cornernote |
cheats make it "seem" more fun at the time, but you lose interest in the game quickly |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
folks were excited when found somethin new |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
after i made my shit |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
1 week, diablo 2 was gone |
| 08:45 |
cornernote |
but if i make it so they cant fly, they will just change the code |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
no one wanted to play it anymore |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
it just lost its charm |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
make it hard to switch |
| 08:47 |
RealBadAngel |
most of players will fail then |
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| 08:47 |
RealBadAngel |
if some1 will be able to bypass your check |
| 08:47 |
cornernote |
and fast is awesome |
| 08:47 |
RealBadAngel |
it means hes almost or already a modder |
| 08:48 |
cornernote |
ok, i'll put it in |
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| 08:48 |
cornernote |
do u have the code ? or i gotta do it myself? =) |
| 08:48 |
RealBadAngel |
make abm on starting block |
| 08:49 |
RealBadAngel |
look for creative |
| 08:49 |
cornernote |
ok, i'll tell you what... |
| 08:49 |
RealBadAngel |
this way it shall work from start |
| 08:49 |
cornernote |
i'll make a no_fly mod, and include it in seablock |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
but i dont think it should be part of skyblock to prevent assigning permissions |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
even when some1 will change it when reloaded |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
abm will take care of it |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
on_step of player |
| 08:50 |
cornernote |
do a 5 second check |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
enough |
| 08:51 |
cornernote |
even with 100 players will be almost 0 load |
| 08:51 |
RealBadAngel |
single check line |
| 08:51 |
RealBadAngel |
once creative detected loop the game and stop it |
| 08:52 |
RealBadAngel |
i said abm because of 1 thing |
| 08:52 |
RealBadAngel |
you can loop it |
| 08:52 |
RealBadAngel |
and the whole engine will work |
| 08:53 |
RealBadAngel |
but you will be able to print warnin screen and keep it |
| 08:55 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 08:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i just found a good way to use inf-loopin abms :) |
| 08:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i will implement same thing in technic mod |
| 08:57 |
whirm |
hi everyone |
| 08:57 |
RealBadAngel |
so no more switchin modes |
| 08:57 |
cornernote |
how about fast ? |
| 08:57 |
cornernote |
u really think i should disable that ? |
| 08:57 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 08:57 |
cornernote |
i think fast mode is cool, and not a cheat |
| 08:58 |
cornernote |
it helps you get places |
| 08:58 |
RealBadAngel |
your game is hardcore for christ sake |
| 08:58 |
RealBadAngel |
dont look for ways to make it a piece of cake |
| 08:58 |
cornernote |
disabled these: teleport, settime, bring, ban, rollback, server, fly, privs, give |
| 08:58 |
RealBadAngel |
it will lost all its charm |
| 08:58 |
cornernote |
im not convinced about fast |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
can stay |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
all others: out ouf window |
| 08:59 |
cy1 |
RealBadAngel: yeah hard core means walking everywhere slowly. oh wait |
| 08:59 |
RealBadAngel |
no fly, no give, no shit |
| 09:00 |
RealBadAngel |
then it will be fun |
| 09:00 |
cy1 |
yeah give them multinode it's better than give. |
| 09:00 |
cy1 |
:T |
| 09:00 |
RealBadAngel |
check for this also |
| 09:01 |
cy1 |
/replace air |
| 09:01 |
RealBadAngel |
shit found / no go |
| 09:01 |
cy1 |
/with fire |
| 09:01 |
cy1 |
/doit |
| 09:01 |
cy1 |
oh also |
| 09:02 |
cy1 |
/set disable_anticheat true |
| 09:02 |
cy1 |
that makes the game so much better |
| 09:02 |
RealBadAngel |
too easy |
| 09:02 |
cy1 |
yeah, because the server isn't griefing everyone |
| 09:02 |
RealBadAngel |
it has to be hardcoded imho |
| 09:03 |
RealBadAngel |
showin lusers a door |
| 09:03 |
RealBadAngel |
it means they will open it |
| 09:03 |
RealBadAngel |
no matter what |
| 09:03 |
cy1 |
we all know hardcore players like to sit there and play w/ their belly button while the server tries to duplicate their last 200 moves at about 1 move per second. |
| 09:04 |
cy1 |
because convenience just isn't any fun you know |
| 09:04 |
cy1 |
war is peace |
| 09:04 |
RealBadAngel |
i played single world |
| 09:04 |
RealBadAngel |
for a year or somethin |
| 09:04 |
RealBadAngel |
made such creation you wouldnt believe |
| 09:05 |
cy1 |
eh, not so great if you can't share it though... |
| 09:05 |
RealBadAngel |
on a stupid tree farm i worked for almost a month |
| 09:05 |
RealBadAngel |
to create control logic for it |
| 09:05 |
RealBadAngel |
and that was fun |
| 09:05 |
RealBadAngel |
with minetest i could be able to share it |
| 09:06 |
RealBadAngel |
just invite |
| 09:06 |
cy1 |
ah, yeh... |
| 09:06 |
cy1 |
be sure to save a backup ofc |
| 09:07 |
RealBadAngel |
now we all here makin tools to allow us to create everythin |
| 09:07 |
cy1 |
the more the better! |
| 09:07 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 09:07 |
RealBadAngel |
how celeron pointed that? |
| 09:07 |
RealBadAngel |
release API |
| 09:08 |
RealBadAngel |
and watch content explode |
| 09:08 |
cy1 |
? |
| 09:10 |
RealBadAngel |
with all folks doin their mods |
| 09:10 |
RealBadAngel |
game changes everyday |
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| 09:12 |
cornernote |
seems i cant take fly away from singleplayer |
| 09:12 |
cornernote |
it just doesnt seem to save |
| 09:12 |
cornernote |
minetest.set_player_privs(player:get_player_name(), privs) |
| 09:13 |
RealBadAngel |
wait |
| 09:13 |
RealBadAngel |
can you check this variable in game? |
| 09:14 |
cornernote |
yes |
| 09:14 |
cornernote |
local privs = minetest.get_player_privs(player:get_player_name()) |
| 09:14 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 09:14 |
cornernote |
if privs["fly"] then privs["fly"] = false end |
| 09:14 |
cornernote |
let me pastebin |
| 09:14 |
RealBadAngel |
do you have startin, no removable block? |
| 09:14 |
RealBadAngel |
*non |
| 09:14 |
cy1 |
RealBadAngel: the code is open source, just make it do what you want? what's that about an API? |
| 09:14 |
cornernote |
http://pastebin.com/WCZrpi4U |
| 09:15 |
RealBadAngel |
ok you can check them |
| 09:15 |
RealBadAngel |
so make abm checkin them |
| 09:15 |
cornernote |
it dumps the 1st print, as expected with fly |
| 09:15 |
RealBadAngel |
once detected a change |
| 09:15 |
cornernote |
then the next, it has fly=false (as expected) |
| 09:15 |
RealBadAngel |
open dialog formspec |
| 09:15 |
cornernote |
but then on the next loop.. the 1st one still has fly |
| 09:15 |
cornernote |
like it didnt save |
| 09:16 |
RealBadAngel |
without possibility to close it |
| 09:16 |
cornernote |
i checked EVERY mod i have collected... nobody has ever used set_player_privs() in any of them |
| 09:16 |
RealBadAngel |
make "you hacker you" on the whole screen |
| 09:16 |
cornernote |
this code is in an abm |
| 09:16 |
cornernote |
lol |
| 09:16 |
cornernote |
no |
| 09:17 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 09:17 |
RealBadAngel |
loop abm |
| 09:17 |
cornernote |
u make it, i'll consider it |
| 09:17 |
RealBadAngel |
dont let it return |
| 09:17 |
cy1 |
or just take away interact and who cares :p |
| 09:17 |
cornernote |
if u cant close it, you have to kill the client to exit |
| 09:17 |
cornernote |
thats not very eligant |
| 09:17 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 09:17 |
RealBadAngel |
game will work |
| 09:18 |
RealBadAngel |
abms just will be stopped |
| 09:18 |
cy1 |
abms are server side |
| 09:18 |
RealBadAngel |
but the "you hacker you" wont be able to play |
| 09:19 |
RealBadAngel |
with a formspec all the time in front |
| 09:19 |
cornernote |
its fun with sea or lava |
| 09:19 |
cornernote |
with sea, you can put your lava on water level+2, and it will make a stone island |
| 09:21 |
cornernote |
cy1, problem is, i cant |
| 09:22 |
cornernote |
set_player_privs() seems to not work |
| 09:22 |
cy1 |
huh, that is a problem |
| 09:23 |
cornernote |
for singleplayer |
| 09:24 |
cornernote |
no, for any |
| 09:24 |
cornernote |
but i like that idea |
| 09:24 |
cornernote |
allow fly, but set interact=false |
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| 09:29 |
RealBadAngel |
damn |
| 09:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i made it and he hes gone ;) |
| 09:34 |
RealBadAngel |
http://pastebin.com/pCPsb6w7 |
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RealBadAngel |
http://pastebin.com/LxMu6v1R |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
modified the idea a bit |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
now it shall be bullet proof |
| 10:01 |
cy1 |
I AM BULLET PROOF |
| 10:01 |
RealBadAngel |
bang |
| 10:01 |
* RealBadAngel |
is collectin leftovers |
| 10:02 |
cy1 |
ppl keep leavin their saps just layin there |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
items dropped shall have TTL |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
after it - removed |
| 10:03 |
cy1 |
no it's fine I could clean them up |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
not fine really |
| 10:04 |
RealBadAngel |
on a server its a big problem |
| 10:04 |
RealBadAngel |
lotsa shit foatin around |
| 10:05 |
RealBadAngel |
with ttl like a few minutes all will be cleaned by itself |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
item drop starts a timer |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
after 5 minutes removes the drop |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
nice and easy |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:22 |
PilzAdam |
:-( |
| 10:37 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Adam |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
hi RealBadAngel |
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| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
tested |
| 10:39 |
PilzAdam |
what? |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
works ok. when fly or such shit enabled |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
game holds |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
http://pastebin.com/LxMu6v1R |
| 10:40 |
RealBadAngel |
not literally the pasted stuff, but you have an idea |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
cornernote can hang this onto starting block |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
lookin for solution for me |
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| 11:14 |
NekoGloop |
Hello |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 11:14 |
NekoGloop |
Whatcha up to? |
| 11:15 |
PilzAdam |
coding |
| 11:15 |
NekoGloop |
I see |
| 11:16 |
NekoGloop |
What are you coding? |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
ambience mod: splash |
| 11:16 |
NekoGloop |
I see |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
and you? |
| 11:16 |
NekoGloop |
Just here, have to go in a bit |
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| 11:23 |
bas080 |
Ones the chess mod is fixed who wants to have a competition |
| 11:24 |
PilzAdam |
im not good at chess |
| 11:24 |
RealBadAngel |
i like playin it |
| 11:25 |
RealBadAngel |
improved detection routine a bit |
| 11:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i will put this into my mod too |
| 11:26 |
VanessaE_ |
morning all |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
slept well? |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
morning VanessaE_ |
| 11:26 |
VanessaE_ |
oh yes |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
after a discussion with cornernote we came to this: |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
http://pastebin.com/gF7Lk8e3 |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE_ |
saw that |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
and? |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
agree? |
| 11:28 |
VanessaE_ |
dunno, I never played with game settings in a mod :-) however the concept relative to skyblock sounds good |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
creative shall be for testin/free ride |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
other modes shall be played with no cheats |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
imho |
| 11:28 |
bas080 |
Ones chess mod is done i'm planning on having a chess competition on a online server. Anyone up for it? If so where should i make a forum thread for participators? |
| 11:29 |
RealBadAngel |
i i i |
| 11:29 |
RealBadAngel |
sign me |
| 11:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i do love playin chess |
| 11:33 |
RealBadAngel |
@vanessa: with flood fill i do have a battle here |
| 11:33 |
RealBadAngel |
winner is not yet known |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE_ |
well |
| 11:36 |
bas080 |
Would be nice to have a library or some kind of scenery where the competition is played in. Maybe a castle or cathedral. |
| 11:36 |
VanessaE_ |
if all else fails, you can just randomly place water nodes at outlet Y and below where there's only air and hope for the best :-) |
| 11:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i decided that volume built by a player shall be filled |
| 11:39 |
RealBadAngel |
so if some1 will want to make a swimmin pool |
| 11:39 |
RealBadAngel |
our pump will have to fill it up |
| 11:40 |
RealBadAngel |
with no glitches |
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| 11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
ha got an idea |
| 11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i will temporary put somethin other |
| 11:43 |
VanessaE_ |
uh oh |
| 11:44 |
RealBadAngel |
like bricks for example |
| 11:44 |
VanessaE_ |
this oughta be good ;) |
| 11:45 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah lets pump the bricks then :) |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
hahahahaha |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
funny indeed |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE_ |
lemme see a video or something for crying out loud :-) |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE_ |
I'm dying here to see what you've done now :-) |
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| 11:47 |
RealBadAngel |
but i can c exatcly where output were placed, and where not |
| 11:47 |
PilzAdam |
R.I.P. VanessaE_ |
| 11:47 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE_ |
I said dying, not dead |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE_ |
morning Trollinou ;-) |
| 11:47 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 11:47 |
RealBadAngel |
its the word almost missin here ;) |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE_ |
RealBadAngel: make. a. video. ! |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE_ |
:) |
| 11:48 |
PilzAdam |
HI Calinou |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
b.e.t.t.e.r |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
code is almost finished |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
i will release it today |
| 11:48 |
bas080 |
:) yey |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
now im goin to run a pump with a sea |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
and wait a few hours for result |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
if it will pass the sea test |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
release it |
| 11:51 |
RealBadAngel |
btw Vanessa, its really great work you have done |
| 11:51 |
VanessaE_ |
thanks :-) |
| 11:51 |
RealBadAngel |
im using them and love them |
| 11:51 |
RealBadAngel |
amazing simply |
| 11:52 |
RealBadAngel |
even minecraft has no such beatutiful pipes |
| 11:52 |
VanessaE_ |
I wonder if I should add a second variety of pipes - thin (ish) copper waterlines for low-pressure stuff |
| 11:52 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm |
| 11:53 |
RealBadAngel |
for sake of cpu load we dont look at pressure |
| 11:53 |
VanessaE_ |
well, low water flow rate anyhow |
| 11:53 |
RealBadAngel |
we r just checkin integrity of circuit |
| 11:53 |
RealBadAngel |
and ends |
| 11:53 |
VanessaE_ |
like 1/10 of what the steel pipes do, for cheaper material |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
ah |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
there is already chromium there |
| 11:54 |
VanessaE_ |
(would require the moreores mod obviouslt) |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
you have to smelt it down together with steel |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
in ratio 4:1 |
| 11:54 |
VanessaE_ |
naw |
| 11:55 |
RealBadAngel |
to get stainless steel |
| 11:55 |
VanessaE_ |
let's keep it easier |
| 11:55 |
RealBadAngel |
its technic |
| 11:55 |
VanessaE_ |
well remember I want these pipes to be useable separately too |
| 11:55 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 11:55 |
VanessaE_ |
I think it's enough to just require twice-smelted steel |
| 11:56 |
VanessaE_ |
iron -> steel -> hardened steel |
| 11:56 |
VanessaE_ |
or so |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
booooo |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i already made that |
| 11:57 |
VanessaE_ |
ok then let's include some kind of metallurgy furnace in with pipes? |
| 11:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i made the alloy furnace too |
| 11:57 |
VanessaE_ |
right |
| 11:57 |
RealBadAngel |
thats what im sayin |
| 11:57 |
VanessaE_ |
so include it with pipes and make sure it can produce the same kind of outputs as the one in technic = compatible |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE_ |
ok |
| 11:58 |
RealBadAngel |
easy |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE_ |
so the user combines steel + what else in the furnace? |
| 11:58 |
RealBadAngel |
as i made dep for pipeworks |
| 11:58 |
RealBadAngel |
then pipeworks will need technic |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE_ |
nooooooo |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE_ |
no dependencies |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
i have to |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE_ |
why? |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
how to define a workin machine with no background? |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE_ |
I don't want this mod to depend on anything else - remember it's supposed to be a framework around which someone (hi sfan5 !) can build another mod |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
youre on my list |
| 12:00 |
RealBadAngel |
got your point |
| 12:00 |
sfan5 |
i like (hi VanessaE_ !) potatoes |
| 12:00 |
RealBadAngel |
i will do so |
| 12:00 |
VanessaE_ |
haha |
| 12:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
but will have to override pump node definition |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
cant just add somethin to your node |
| 12:02 |
VanessaE_ |
we're only talking about the metal the pipe is made of here |
| 12:02 |
VanessaE_ |
and the generic pumping action of course |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
bout the crafting: technic already provides sources and craftin recipes to make all the stuff |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
within technic mod |
| 12:03 |
VanessaE_ |
mmmh |
| 12:04 |
VanessaE_ |
recipes, pumping action, etc need to be self-contained |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
just the pump |
| 12:04 |
VanessaE_ |
someone needs to be able to take this mod and build something new around it without depending on technic |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
since it has to be abm driven |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i cant make it independent |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
another way |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i can make it on its own |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
punchable just |
| 12:06 |
RealBadAngel |
or make it a power machine |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE_ |
it's possible to do both you know |
| 12:06 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE_ |
remember I said I was going to make three pumps per axis instead of the current two |
| 12:07 |
RealBadAngel |
enter a world and encounter one powered and 2nd not |
| 12:07 |
VanessaE_ |
off but no power, on but no power, on with power |
| 12:08 |
RealBadAngel |
i will do that this way |
| 12:08 |
RealBadAngel |
all pipeworks will stay intact |
| 12:08 |
RealBadAngel |
no changes |
| 12:09 |
RealBadAngel |
so all could use it as a framework |
| 12:09 |
RealBadAngel |
for oil whatever |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE_ |
*nod* |
| 12:09 |
RealBadAngel |
my part will be single lua |
| 12:09 |
bas080 |
i like frameworks... they are good for others creative inputs |
| 12:09 |
RealBadAngel |
and will require power to run |
| 12:10 |
RealBadAngel |
if some1 decide to use it |
| 12:10 |
VanessaE_ |
ok |
| 12:10 |
RealBadAngel |
will just have to take my part |
| 12:10 |
RealBadAngel |
and change type of liquid |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
or drop the power need |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
if wanted |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
is that plan ok with you? |
| 12:15 |
RealBadAngel |
@bas80: well it look like im the first framework user :) |
| 12:15 |
PilzAdam |
im back |
| 12:15 |
VanessaE_ |
yeah |
| 12:15 |
VanessaE_ |
as long as it's very easy to change the fluid type and power requirement |
| 12:15 |
VanessaE_ |
wb PilzAdam |
| 12:16 |
RealBadAngel |
im not changin anythin in your code vanessa |
| 12:16 |
RealBadAngel |
just usin it |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE_ |
I mean in your code :-) |
| 12:16 |
RealBadAngel |
heh the pump |
| 12:16 |
PilzAdam |
lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4iucctrZbU |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
shall i make it outta technic? |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE_ |
the pump should stay in pipeworks |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
hard decison ;) |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE_ |
let's make it simple enough - punch to turn on/off, and the next mod author can decide if he or she wants it to require a power source |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
it will |
| 12:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i will make it able to pump anythin |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
that's what she said |
| 12:19 |
RealBadAngel |
user defined |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE_ |
even bricks? ;) |
| 12:20 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 12:20 |
RealBadAngel |
bricks were just for testing |
| 12:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i wasnt able to see whats flowin and whats source |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE_ |
right |
| 12:20 |
RealBadAngel |
bricks just filled the volume |
| 12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
btw |
| 12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i will do that but we need to make a deal |
| 12:22 |
VanessaE_ |
? |
| 12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
tubes |
| 12:22 |
VanessaE_ |
pneumatic tubes? |
| 12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE_ |
simple enough, make the pipes all pure white, get rid of the flanges, use the water alpha setting to force them to be translucent |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE_ |
make such a mod an integral part of technic |
| 12:23 |
RealBadAngel |
same rules, just different model |
| 12:23 |
RealBadAngel |
and yes |
| 12:24 |
RealBadAngel |
this has to be an integral part |
| 12:24 |
RealBadAngel |
ALL of the stuff will use it |
| 12:24 |
VanessaE_ |
change the model for intake/outlet grates to something like you see at a bank for the thing you put the tube into at the drive throiugh :-) |
| 12:24 |
VanessaE_ |
-i |
| 12:24 |
RealBadAngel |
dont need grates |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE_ |
ohok |
| 12:25 |
RealBadAngel |
nor the valwes or pumps |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE_ |
about the pumpt.. |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE_ |
about the pumps.. |
| 12:25 |
RealBadAngel |
just the tubes that connects to nodes that has inv |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE_ |
I need to mark the inlet/outlet fittings I suppose |
| 12:26 |
RealBadAngel |
dont need to |
| 12:26 |
RealBadAngel |
facedir is enough |
| 12:26 |
RealBadAngel |
side with button and the light |
| 12:26 |
VanessaE_ |
for the less-sharp users out there I mean |
| 12:27 |
RealBadAngel |
which doesnt know which hand is the right and which is left one? |
| 12:27 |
VanessaE_ |
yes :-) |
| 12:27 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 12:28 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 plz make iq checkin loader routine |
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| 12:29 |
RealBadAngel |
shit |
| 12:29 |
RealBadAngel |
not again |
| 12:29 |
Isabella |
run... |
| 12:29 |
jin_xi |
hey, i ALWAYS confuse my rights and lefts :( |
| 12:30 |
Isabella |
does anyone know if UbuntuNerd was on lately (known as madchicken13) |
| 12:30 |
PilzAdam |
hi Isabella |
| 12:30 |
Isabella |
hi pilz |
| 12:30 |
Isabella |
adam sorry |
| 12:30 |
PilzAdam |
adam not pilz |
| 12:30 |
Isabella |
i know |
| 12:30 |
bas080 |
pilz is beer? |
| 12:30 |
PilzAdam |
pilz is mushroom |
| 12:30 |
Isabella |
hahaha |
| 12:31 |
bas080 |
paddestoel |
| 12:31 |
bas080 |
Isabella are you on the forum? |
| 12:31 |
PilzAdam |
and adam is hebrew for human |
| 12:31 |
Isabella |
which one |
| 12:31 |
PilzAdam |
or its a common name |
| 12:31 |
bas080 |
http://minetest.net/forum |
| 12:32 |
Isabella |
what is that |
| 12:32 |
VanessaE_ |
that is the minetest forums |
| 12:32 |
VanessaE_ |
where most of the community's activity is centered |
| 12:32 |
* PilzAdam |
too |
| 12:33 |
Isabella |
what do you do on it |
| 12:33 |
PilzAdam |
post mods |
| 12:33 |
bas080 |
I share ideas and mods |
| 12:33 |
VanessaE_ |
exchange messages, publish code, talk, etc |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
general disucssion, report bugs and problems, download and create mods, download and create texture packs, work on the engine |
| 12:33 |
bas080 |
ignore noobs :P |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
basically, you do what the forum sections are named |
| 12:34 |
Isabella |
wow! |
| 12:34 |
VanessaE_ |
same sort of thing that goes on in any internet forum, tailored to the needs of our community. |
| 12:34 |
VanessaE_ |
(except maybe compared to /b/ ) |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
heh, it's moderated at least :p |
| 12:35 |
VanessaE_ |
yup |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
libreoffice 3.6 Y U NO WORK |
| 12:35 |
* Calinou |
will reinstall libreoffice 3.5.6 |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
installed it on a mac computer this morning; 3.6 didn't work, 3.5.6 did |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
now on this windows computer the same thing happens |
| 12:36 |
* PilzAdam |
uses kubuntu and it works :-) |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
linus torvalds must be the guy who made libreoffice; new releases never work |
| 12:36 |
whirm |
it's working here on debian |
| 12:37 |
Calinou |
debian sid in my virtualbox; libreoffice works there :) |
| 12:38 |
thexyz |
then why do you blame libreoffice for this? |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
sid is supposed to be unstable, yet LO works, unlike windows which is supposed to be "stable" |
| 12:38 |
thexyz |
windows? stable? |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
I put quotes for a reason obviously |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
who said it was stable :P |
| 12:38 |
RealBadAngel |
Isabella: hi there sweetie, howdy? |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
inb4 "are you female" |
| 12:38 |
Calinou |
let me bet 40 XonoCoins that someone will say this |
| 12:38 |
Isabella |
meÉ |
| 12:39 |
thexyz |
blame windows for that |
| 12:39 |
Isabella |
? |
| 12:39 |
Isabella |
i am fine!!! |
| 12:39 |
RealBadAngel |
sure? |
| 12:40 |
Isabella |
yep |
| 12:40 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, are you still in my hell? |
| 12:41 |
RealBadAngel |
depends |
| 12:41 |
RealBadAngel |
on that lollipops do grow there |
| 12:41 |
Isabella |
hahaha |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
burning lollipops |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
they are so sweet that you will die |
| 12:42 |
Isabella |
hahahaha |
| 12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
lick and die |
| 12:42 |
RealBadAngel |
how sweet |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
but u cant die in hell |
| 12:42 |
PilzAdam |
you will respawn |
| 12:42 |
Isabella |
because ur already dead ;) |
| 12:43 |
RealBadAngel |
holly shit, unlimited lickin machine just invented ;) |
| 12:43 |
PilzAdam |
nope, theres no static respawn point ;-) |
| 12:43 |
Isabella |
hahaha |
| 12:44 |
RealBadAngel |
can code it, no problemo |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
you have to build everything from the beginning |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
and randomly your blocks and inventory dissapears |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
and there is a bluescreen every 3 min. |
| 12:45 |
PilzAdam |
here the textures: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=21 |
| 12:46 |
VanessaE_ |
oy that's an oldie |
| 12:47 |
PilzAdam |
i found it randomly |
| 12:47 |
PilzAdam |
i dont realy use it :-) |
| 12:48 |
RealBadAngel |
Isabella: but still you have to complain. some1 really told me that youre Notch in fact. :( |
| 12:48 |
PilzAdam |
YAY JAVA!!!! |
| 12:48 |
Isabella |
hahaha i pretened to then i got put as a guest on this |
| 12:48 |
Isabella |
I HATE JAVA!!!! |
| 12:48 |
PilzAdam |
:-( |
| 12:48 |
Isabella |
its so slow :( |
| 12:49 |
Isabella |
its not for my pc |
| 12:49 |
PilzAdam |
not on a intel core i7 |
| 12:49 |
PilzAdam |
1st generation |
| 12:49 |
Isabella |
ow |
| 12:49 |
RealBadAngel |
notch hatin java? how strange.... |
| 12:50 |
PilzAdam |
… |
| 12:50 |
bas080 |
RealBadAngel, You really think notch drops by ones in a while? |
| 12:50 |
bas080 |
I don't think he bothers with programming anymore. He's to rich to even bother |
| 12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont think |
| 12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
Isabella is Notch |
| 12:51 |
Isabella |
no im not!! :D |
| 12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
everyone knows that |
| 12:51 |
PilzAdam |
shes in hell.... |
| 12:52 |
PilzAdam |
or he…… |
| 12:52 |
Isabella |
with lollipops |
| 12:52 |
RealBadAngel |
burning |
| 12:53 |
bas080 |
Maybe your notch RealBadAngel! |
| 12:54 |
bas080 |
You mentioned it first! |
| 12:54 |
bas080 |
:P |
| 12:54 |
Isabella |
yeah :D |
| 12:54 |
* PilzAdam |
puts RealBadAngel in hell |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
<PilzAdam> not on a intel core i7 |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
lol true |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
minecraft 600FPS far+fancy |
| 12:55 |
Isabella |
yeah |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
i dont have MC |
| 12:55 |
Calinou |
minetest 90FPS view distance 128 (roughly equivalent to far) |
| 12:55 |
Isabella |
yay |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
MT 200 FPS |
| 12:55 |
bas080 |
i have minecraft on xbox. it's lame-ish. better rendering though... frames not so much |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
xbox itself sucsk |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
any console does actually |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
</rms>, but still |
| 12:57 |
Basstard` |
Calinou: How is that <rms>? |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
because you can't make open source games for consoles (legally) |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
damn you apt |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
*need to save bandwidth* *installs icedove* *19mb downloading, no confirmation* |
| 12:58 |
Basstard` |
Calinou: Doesn't mean that any console sucks. You can make a console with fully free software. |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
just because there's no dependancy |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
Basstard`, not legally |
| 12:58 |
Basstard` |
Calinou: Uh, yes. |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
what console? |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
Battlefield 3 on XBox 360 <3 |
| 12:58 |
Calinou |
"computer" doesn't count |
| 12:58 |
Basstard` |
Calinou: I said that you can make a console with fully free software. |
| 12:59 |
Basstard` |
Calinou: And a console is a computer. |
| 12:59 |
PilzAdam |
owned |
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| 13:10 |
Calinou |
Basstard`, ik |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
I was talking about /consoles/, purely, things that you don't use for general-purpose computing (eg. browsing the web) |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
none of the three "mainstream" consoles require games to be verified/signed |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
erm I mean all of the three |
| 13:11 |
VanessaE_ |
Calinou: some PS2 owners would disagree with you ;) |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
PS2 is dead since long time ago |
| 13:11 |
VanessaE_ |
(re: general purpose computing) |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
it's not mainstream anymore |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
the sony dudes have removed the ability to install linux on a PS3 long time ago |
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| 13:18 |
Isabella |
whirm: hi |
| 13:19 |
Calinou |
don't say hi to channel hoppers, lol |
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| 13:20 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
hello |
| 13:20 |
Isabella |
sir!!!! |
| 13:20 |
Isabella |
my friend!!! |
| 13:20 |
VanessaE_ |
hi |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
wtf is this guy |
| 13:20 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
lolololololololololololololol |
| 13:20 |
Isabella |
my best friend ;) nhis name is that for minetest |
| 13:21 |
Isabella |
hahaha |
| 13:21 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
hello |
| 13:22 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 13:22 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
who are u |
| 13:22 |
* VanessaE_ |
is VanessaE. |
| 13:22 |
* sir-king-lol-guy |
is here |
| 13:22 |
* PilzAdam |
is PilzAdam |
| 13:22 |
RealBadAngel |
oh lol |
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bas080 |
derp derp |
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* Isabella |
syas wow |
| 13:23 |
Isabella |
says |
| 13:23 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella cant write |
| 13:23 |
PilzAdam |
or type |
| 13:23 |
* Isabella |
says its true |
| 13:23 |
RealBadAngel |
we had some sex there obviusly. entities multiplied. |
| 13:23 |
bas080 |
herpederpedur |
| 13:23 |
Calinou |
/clearobjects |
| 13:23 |
Calinou |
there, no more kids |
| 13:24 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia |
| 13:24 |
Isabella |
... :D |
| 13:24 |
Calinou |
its > it's in most cases ._. |
| 13:24 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
talk to me |
| 13:24 |
Isabella |
i dont have that, i like to type fast and then it messes up sometimes |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
everyone says that ..... |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
the first step is to accept that |
| 13:25 |
Isabella |
but its true |
| 13:25 |
bas080 |
are you sure you don't because most people are not aware of mental abnormalities |
| 13:25 |
PilzAdam |
:-) |
| 13:26 |
Isabella |
hahaha no |
| 13:26 |
whirm1 |
it can be either dyslexia or cats |
| 13:26 |
Isabella |
yes once this morning |
| 13:26 |
Calinou |
OMG a channel hopper talks |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm1: in my house most anything can easily be blamed on both ;-) |
| 13:27 |
whirm1 |
XD |
| 13:27 |
Isabella |
hhahahahaha |
| 13:29 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
romatic scene is aproching!!! |
| 13:30 |
PilzAdam |
the nick is too short for PilzAdam_The_Devil |
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| 13:35 |
VanessaE_ |
hey cornernote. |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE_ |
and others. |
| 13:35 |
* PilzAdam |
wants to know if hes "others" |
| 13:35 |
cornernote |
hey |
| 13:35 |
Isabella |
hi |
| 13:35 |
VanessaE_ |
no because you're already here ;) |
| 13:35 |
Isabella |
:P i love saying this... |
| 13:35 |
Isabella |
whoevers here say aye |
| 13:35 |
Isabella |
aye |
| 13:36 |
PilzAdam |
aye |
| 13:36 |
Isabella |
yay |
| 13:36 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
aiy |
| 13:36 |
bas080 |
aye wave |
| 13:36 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
aye |
| 13:36 |
bas080 |
aye |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: perhaps you should state (in -dev) your purpose of those questions. |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE_ |
nay. |
| 13:36 |
VanessaE_ |
North Carolina says 'nay'. |
| 13:36 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
cool justin beiber is on the chat |
| 13:37 |
Isabella |
brb |
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| 13:38 |
bas080 |
Netherlands says "Bier en tieten"! |
| 13:38 |
whirm |
just out of curiosity, what's the average age on this chan? |
| 13:38 |
PilzAdam |
Germany says: "ich bin ein Berliner!" |
| 13:38 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: mentally or chronologically? |
| 13:38 |
Basstard` |
whirm: Currently or in general? |
| 13:39 |
whirm |
the mental one is quite clear XDDDD |
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| 13:39 |
VanessaE_ |
mentally I'd say around 15ish. ;-) chronologically about 25 or so |
| 13:39 |
PilzAdam |
im 17 |
| 13:39 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its basstard |
| 13:39 |
PilzAdam |
but mentally: [insert steven hawkings age here] |
| 13:40 |
whirm |
mine is variable |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: I think he's in his 50's |
| 13:41 |
VanessaE_ |
no, strike that. he's 70. |
| 13:41 |
bas080 |
I was thinking mid life crisis age |
| 13:41 |
VanessaE_ |
jeez |
| 13:41 |
whirm |
my AC can't keep up with the heat wave we have here :( |
| 13:41 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking |
| 13:42 |
bas080 |
Atleast you have one. Why not go swimming? |
| 13:42 |
bas080 |
whirm |
| 13:42 |
whirm |
bas080: because I'm working :D |
| 13:42 |
bas080 |
oyeah, some people do that, how's that working for you? |
| 13:43 |
Basstard` |
Work is so passé. |
| 13:43 |
PilzAdam |
are you french? |
| 13:43 |
Basstard` |
Oui |
| 13:43 |
* PilzAdam |
facepalms |
| 13:44 |
bas080 |
hehehe |
| 13:44 |
bas080 |
derpederpederp |
| 13:44 |
whirm |
bas080: hot |
| 13:44 |
whirm |
not as hot as me, but quite hot whatsoever |
| 13:45 |
bas080 |
are you satisfied with the work you do? |
| 13:45 |
whirm |
I'm programming shirtless |
| 13:45 |
bas080 |
whirm, i'll join you |
| 13:45 |
bas080 |
***bas080 takes of shirt |
| 13:45 |
whirm |
and I'm thinking to sit on the AC unit while I code |
| 13:45 |
* PilzAdam |
throws money at bas080 |
| 13:46 |
whirm |
bas080: not much with this project, but someone has to do it |
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| 13:46 |
* whirm |
puts shirt back |
| 13:46 |
PilzAdam |
:-( |
| 13:46 |
bas080 |
***bas080 is collecting it.... moneyzzz!!! |
| 13:46 |
PilzAdam |
its 1$ |
| 13:46 |
Isabella |
whirm... |
| 13:47 |
whirm |
Isabella: speak |
| 13:47 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, Huh? you are part of eu right? euros!!! |
| 13:47 |
bas080 |
atleast 5 euro! |
| 13:47 |
Isabella |
i am talking |
| 13:47 |
bas080 |
or your throwing ccoins |
| 13:47 |
PilzAdam |
yes but 1$ is less then 1€ |
| 13:47 |
whirm |
Isabella: oh, hai |
| 13:47 |
whirm |
you can't pick 0.8€ coins |
| 13:48 |
whirm |
they don't exist |
| 13:48 |
bas080 |
true |
| 13:48 |
Isabella |
why was your shirt, you said *whirm puts shirt back????? |
| 13:48 |
whirm |
because of several reasons |
| 13:48 |
PilzAdam |
<bas080> ***bas080 takes of shirt |
| 13:49 |
whirm |
the most important of them is that I'm sweating quite a lot |
| 13:49 |
Isabella |
adam! |
| 13:49 |
Isabella |
oh |
| 13:49 |
PilzAdam |
im just quoting |
| 13:49 |
Isabella |
yea right |
| 13:49 |
whirm |
the other one is so I can earn money by coding and sexcamming at the same time |
| 13:50 |
PilzAdam |
good idea |
| 13:50 |
bas080 |
whirm, how much do they pay you for taking it off? |
| 13:50 |
Isabella |
cool |
| 13:50 |
whirm |
maybe the word would be lolcamming, becuause it's what people will do if they see me with no shirt but as long as they pay |
| 13:51 |
PilzAdam |
https://ixquick.de/do/search |
| 13:51 |
PilzAdam |
.-( |
| 13:51 |
whirm |
bas080: oh, no, they pay me to put it back on |
| 13:52 |
bas080 |
If it respects privacy then why can i find facebook? |
| 13:52 |
bas080 |
whirm, :P |
| 13:52 |
Isabella |
:P |
| 13:53 |
bas080 |
***whirm just earned money |
| 13:53 |
* whirm |
yays |
| 13:53 |
bas080 |
another reason for whirm to put on shirt |
| 13:53 |
whirm |
which? |
| 13:54 |
PilzAdam |
the red one |
| 13:55 |
whirm |
I have no red shirts |
| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
buy one |
| 13:55 |
PilzAdam |
or join the firefighters |
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| 13:56 |
whirm |
here in spain they wear orange, it wouldn't be very useful |
| 13:56 |
PilzAdam |
yes i see: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Feuerwehreinsatz%C3%BCbung.JPG&filetimestamp=20051216091929 |
| 13:56 |
whirm |
and half the fucking country is burning right now |
| 13:56 |
PilzAdam |
but they have nice red cars (in germany) |
| 13:57 |
whirm |
I'm more of a bike guy |
| 13:57 |
PilzAdam |
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:L%C3%B6schzug.jpg&filetimestamp=20051216022942 |
| 13:57 |
PilzAdam |
i love wikipedia!! |
| 13:58 |
Isabella |
i saw that |
| 13:59 |
whirm |
becuase there firemen truck photos in it? |
| 13:59 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
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| 13:59 |
bas080 |
whirm, orange is a good color ;) ! |
| 13:59 |
PilzAdam |
nope, again |
| 14:00 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons is what made my photorealistic textures possible :-) ALL HAIL THE GREAT WIKI! ;-) |
| 14:00 |
whirm |
bas080: I have an orange shirt, but it's to thick to use in summer |
| 14:00 |
bas080 |
Where it to a footbal match when spain plays vs netherlands and scream goal when netherlands scored |
| 14:00 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE_, we germans dont say hail… |
| 14:01 |
bas080 |
Wear* scores* |
| 14:01 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute |
| 14:02 |
* whirm |
doesn't like football |
| 14:02 |
bas080 |
I'll learn it one day... |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE_ |
I said hail, not heil. |
| 14:02 |
PilzAdam |
its sounds equal in german |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE_ |
no |
| 14:02 |
bas080 |
i think also same meaning |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE_ |
hail has a long 'a' as in wait or day. |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE_ |
heil has a long 'i' as in might or fly. |
| 14:02 |
PilzAdam |
in german it sounds equal |
| 14:02 |
PilzAdam |
dont tell me about german |
| 14:03 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE_: Your vowels are a bit screwed up. |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE_ |
don't tell me about english :) |
| 14:03 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> its sounds equal in german |
| 14:03 |
PilzAdam |
i dont tell u about english |
| 14:03 |
VanessaE_ |
if it "sounds equal" in german, you're pronoucing an english word wrong :-) |
| 14:03 |
bas080 |
i am dutch we tried being neutral so i think i have the right to say who's right or not as most referees should be neutral. |
| 14:04 |
PilzAdam |
so what? :-) |
| 14:04 |
bas080 |
you are both wrong! |
| 14:04 |
PilzAdam |
yay! |
| 14:04 |
VanessaE_ |
ha! |
| 14:04 |
Isabella |
stop yelling |
| 14:04 |
VanessaE_ |
I am *never* wrong.. ;) |
| 14:04 |
* PilzAdam |
yells |
| 14:05 |
bas080 |
Isabelle, is it hurting your eyes? |
| 14:05 |
Isabella |
-.- |
| 14:05 |
Isabella |
no i dont like people yelling, manners!! |
| 14:05 |
PilzAdam |
its fun |
| 14:06 |
Isabella |
STOP!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:06 |
PilzAdam |
now you are yelling |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE_ |
Isabella: that isn't yelling... **THIS IS YELLING!!!!!!!!** |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE_ |
:-) |
| 14:06 |
Isabella |
I SSEE |
| 14:06 |
Isabella |
see |
| 14:07 |
Isabella |
**yell** |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelling |
| 14:07 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 14:07 |
Isabella |
lol |
| 14:08 |
Isabella |
thats a church? |
| 14:08 |
PilzAdam |
idk |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE_ |
actually it is :-)\ |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE_ |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelling_(vocalization) |
| 14:08 |
VanessaE_ |
you want that one |
| 14:08 |
Isabella |
yea |
| 14:09 |
PilzAdam |
i had this before but it wanst that fun |
| 14:10 |
PilzAdam |
*wasnt |
| 14:11 |
whirm |
bas080: oh! are you dutch? |
| 14:11 |
Isabella |
yay adam is bad at spelling |
| 14:11 |
whirm |
bas080: I'm moving to holland in some 5 weeks! |
| 14:11 |
bas080 |
whirm, yes i am... from where? |
| 14:11 |
whirm |
spain |
| 14:11 |
Basstard` |
Why? |
| 14:11 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, yes but im not american; im german; i am allowed to be bad in spelling |
| 14:11 |
VanessaE_ |
ha! |
| 14:12 |
Basstard` |
PilzAdam: No you are not. It's illegal in Germany. |
| 14:12 |
bas080 |
whirm, demasiado calor ahi? |
| 14:12 |
Isabella |
hahaha hey not nice pilz |
| 14:12 |
Isabella |
(: |
| 14:12 |
VanessaE_ |
damn krauts ruining our language ;) |
| 14:12 |
PilzAdam |
your face is wrong way round |
| 14:12 |
VanessaE_ |
I'm of German descent, I can make all the jokes I want ;) |
| 14:12 |
whirm |
bas080: y demasiado español :) |
| 14:13 |
whirm |
bas080: do you have spanish family? |
| 14:13 |
Isabella |
hahahaha (: |
| 14:13 |
bas080 |
whirm: pero eres espanol(a) |
| 14:13 |
PilzAdam |
spain is in a financial crisis and germany has to help them |
| 14:13 |
Isabella |
i guess |
| 14:13 |
whirm |
bas080: si :) |
| 14:14 |
bas080 |
***PilzAdam should shut up about judging people and start judging corruption and greed of a feww |
| 14:14 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: we would be better without help to say the truth, but as our politians are retarded and corrupt... |
| 14:14 |
Basstard` |
whirm: Why moving to Netherlands? |
| 14:15 |
whirm |
Basstard`: I like cheese |
| 14:15 |
PilzAdam |
bas080 & whirm, we are all in the EU; we have to help each other |
| 14:15 |
PilzAdam |
if we are in troubles you gonna help us |
| 14:15 |
Basstard` |
PilzAdam: We are all on the same planet, we have to help each other. |
| 14:15 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: yes but that's not help |
| 14:16 |
bas080 |
Thank god no one here is nationalistic :P |
| 14:16 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 14:16 |
whirm |
if some corrupt bankers and politicians flush all the money from their banks |
| 14:16 |
VanessaE_ |
+1 |
| 14:16 |
whirm |
and then ask for more money |
| 14:16 |
Basstard` |
Money is so passé. |
| 14:16 |
whirm |
instead of closing the banks |
| 14:17 |
PilzAdam |
its strange |
| 14:17 |
whirm |
and the spanish government accepts money from other corrupt politicians/bankers |
| 14:17 |
whirm |
to give it to the banks and abra cadabra, now the country is in debt instead of the banks |
| 14:17 |
whirm |
wtf |
| 14:18 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Berlin |
| 14:18 |
bas080 |
i know whirm... and there is nothing you or we can do about that... they are stealing the econmic freedoms of millions but there are many other freedoms worth fighting for. |
| 14:18 |
whirm |
bas080: I'm moving to the netherlands because of this in part :) |
| 14:19 |
bas080 |
i met many spanish students at my school in Amsterdam. They are very polite and co-operative. |
| 14:19 |
bas080 |
Are you studying too? |
| 14:20 |
whirm |
bas080: that's because they are educated people :) |
| 14:21 |
whirm |
bas080: nope, I own a small company here in spain, but I'm moving to work at a dutch university |
| 14:22 |
whirm |
bas080: a big part of spanish are not so smart and uneducated |
| 14:22 |
PilzAdam |
a big part of all people all other the world are not smart |
| 14:22 |
bas080 |
whirm, it's a big country! |
| 14:23 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_intelligence |
| 14:24 |
bas080 |
what is smart? PilzAdam, you say that dumb people are abundant so there are doing something right :P |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE_ |
no, it just means their *parents* are :-) |
| 14:25 |
VanessaE_ |
*someone* has to be giving birth to all the idiots out there |
| 14:25 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: yes, but you can go to switzerland, austria, germany, netherlands and even the typical french fries post attendant will be able to communicate with you in english |
| 14:25 |
bas080 |
Kinda true. if pride doesn;t get in the way :P |
| 14:25 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE_: You better stop doing that. |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE_ |
why? |
| 14:26 |
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| 14:26 |
VanessaE_ |
can't handle logic? |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE_ |
:_) |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE_ |
:) |
| 14:26 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE_: Do we want idiots out there? |
| 14:26 |
whirm |
in spain they can't speak spanish properly XD |
| 14:26 |
Edward_ |
what are idiots |
| 14:26 |
PilzAdam |
the others |
| 14:26 |
bas080 |
haha |
| 14:26 |
Edward_ |
other whats |
| 14:26 |
VanessaE_ |
Edward_: anyone who can't answer that question ;) |
| 14:26 |
Edward_ |
what happenes |
| 14:27 |
whirm |
but maybe I am biased because I'm burnt out, I don't know... |
| 14:27 |
bas080 |
people without purpose. Casualties of society |
| 14:27 |
PilzAdam |
ther are no idiots; jsut idiotic behavior |
| 14:27 |
bas080 |
VanessaE, you cannot be aware of more then you are aware of. |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: I direct you to recent goings on in American politics. |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE_ |
still think there are no true idiots? :-) |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 14:28 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: oh, I could really show you some of those :) |
| 14:28 |
bas080 |
mtv? |
| 14:28 |
Edward_ |
what are IDIOTS!!! |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE_ |
bas080: getting philosophical are we? |
| 14:29 |
bas080 |
VanessaE, again! |
| 14:29 |
Edward_ |
pilz send wiki |
| 14:29 |
* VanessaE_ |
is reminded of the "things we know we know/don't know/etc" clip |
| 14:29 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot |
| 14:29 |
Basstard` |
How do we cure idiocy? |
| 14:29 |
Edward_ |
thz adam |
| 14:29 |
Edward_ |
thx |
| 14:29 |
PilzAdam |
Edward_, i was looking for it before you told me |
| 14:29 |
Edward_ |
i kniw |
| 14:29 |
bas080 |
education and death sentences kidding about death sentences |
| 14:29 |
Edward_ |
know |
| 14:30 |
PilzAdam |
"California Penal Code Section 26 stated that "Idiots" were one of six types of people who are not capable of committing crimes." |
| 14:31 |
PilzAdam |
im an idiot :-) |
| 14:31 |
Edward_ |
idots, nickname ;) |
| 14:31 |
whirm |
I once read somewhere a USA guy talking about USA idiots saying: "I'm not talking about genocide here, just remove all the warning labels and let the problem solve by itself" |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: +1 |
| 14:31 |
Edward_ |
what if i told you i was Isabella |
| 14:31 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, +1 |
| 14:31 |
VanessaE_ |
so many stupid ass warning labels |
| 14:32 |
Edward_ |
hahahaha |
| 14:32 |
whirm |
I like the one about not putting your cat in the microwave |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE_ |
OH g*d think of this one, and it's true: imprint on the side of a gun, warning that it can cause INJURY OR DEATH! |
| 14:32 |
PilzAdam |
Edward_, hmm you told me to send a wiki link |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE_ |
on the side of a SHOTGUN. |
| 14:32 |
Edward_ |
because i knew you liked wiki |
| 14:32 |
PilzAdam |
Edward_, so i was wondering where you know it |
| 14:32 |
bas080 |
re-introduce the arena, fight to the death! |
| 14:32 |
whirm |
lol |
| 14:32 |
Edward_ |
where is realbadangel |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
in the hell |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE_ |
saw that warning a few days ago while looking at one for future purchase. I just about fell over laughing |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
because hes Notch |
| 14:33 |
Edward_ |
oh yea i forgto |
| 14:33 |
Edward_ |
forgot |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
yes you ARE Isabella: You cant type |
| 14:34 |
Edward_ |
see (: |
| 14:34 |
bas080 |
VanessaE, plz share the aware clip |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE_ |
eh? |
| 14:34 |
Edward_ |
your canadian? |
| 14:34 |
bas080 |
is reminded of the "things we know we know/don't know/etc" clip |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE_ |
OH |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE_ |
sure, lemme find it |
| 14:34 |
bas080 |
thnx :) |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE_ |
Donald Rumsfled, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtkUO8NpI84 |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE_ |
ca. Februaru 2002 |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE_ |
not the "current" stuff of course |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE_ |
dunno what that last couple seconds is though |
| 14:36 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE_ |
yes, this guy really did say this on US national television, and yes he really was US Secdef. :-) |
| 14:37 |
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| 14:37 |
Isabella |
I CAN Type |
| 14:37 |
bas080 |
He is saying there is a plathform for the thruth. There is no such thing... try googling the truth i promise you will find something, but you will not find the truth! |
| 14:37 |
Isabella |
argggh |
| 14:37 |
RealBadAngel |
uh oh |
| 14:37 |
RealBadAngel |
you can type? |
| 14:38 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, your kidding |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
like really? |
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| 14:38 |
Isabella |
... |
| 14:38 |
bas080 |
http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
prove it |
| 14:39 |
Isabella |
i meant: I can ttype |
| 14:39 |
Isabella |
can t |
| 14:39 |
Isabella |
... |
| 14:41 |
Isabella |
whoevers here say aye |
| 14:41 |
Isabella |
aye |
| 14:41 |
PilzAdam |
aye |
| 14:41 |
bas080 |
derp |
| 14:41 |
Isabella |
whats derp mean! |
| 14:42 |
Isabella |
no pilz no wiki |
| 14:42 |
bas080 |
derpederp derpuh derpa |
| 14:42 |
Isabella |
bas080 is from derpland |
| 14:42 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, only german: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derp |
| 14:42 |
Isabella |
omg wkik |
| 14:42 |
Isabella |
wiki |
| 14:42 |
Isabella |
its a girl |
| 14:42 |
PilzAdam |
an artist |
| 14:42 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, lol |
| 14:43 |
PilzAdam |
a dancer |
| 14:43 |
Isabella |
hahah sorry ¨¨sir¨ |
| 14:43 |
bas080 |
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/derp |
| 14:43 |
Isabella |
nope not clicking |
| 14:43 |
bas080 |
derp |
| 14:43 |
Isabella |
i do ballet |
| 14:44 |
PilzAdam |
does Edward_ ballet? |
| 14:44 |
bas080 |
i do badminton |
| 14:44 |
PilzAdam |
i do ESports |
| 14:44 |
bas080 |
do you sweat when doing that? |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 14:45 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, Maybe BSL? |
| 14:45 |
whirm |
I do ballet while I do badminton while I do parachuting |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
thats the positive side of it |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
bas080, you mean this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayerischer_Tischfussballverband |
| 14:46 |
whirm |
bas080: are there any mountain biking circuits in the netherlands btw? |
| 14:46 |
PilzAdam |
bavarian table soccer |
| 14:46 |
bas080 |
Nope Ball stuck to Leg syndrome |
| 14:47 |
bas080 |
whirm: yes but for best mounting biking it's best to go to the south of netherlands and especially in Belgium |
| 14:47 |
whirm |
bas080: yes, I heard about the belgium province XD |
| 14:47 |
whirm |
bas080: Ill be in delft |
| 14:47 |
bas080 |
technical studies |
| 14:48 |
bas080 |
what uni? |
| 14:48 |
whirm |
tudelft |
| 14:49 |
bas080 |
of course... have you ever been in the Netherlands? and ifso where? |
| 14:50 |
whirm |
when I was 18 (more or less) i went a week near Amsterdam and a couple of months ago I went to scout delft, rotterdam, and the hague |
| 14:50 |
bas080 |
what did you scout for? |
| 14:51 |
whirm |
to see the 3 cities I could live in if I got the job and see if I like it :) |
| 14:52 |
whirm |
bas080: are you from the south? |
| 14:54 |
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| 14:54 |
bas080 |
hahaa, lol... i lived there till i was five but NO! :P they are really nice though. |
| 14:56 |
whirm |
yes they are (for what I could see) |
| 14:57 |
whirm |
bas080: why so emphatic about not living there? |
| 14:57 |
bas080 |
People in the north are a bit more individualistic. Did you check out Haarlem? |
| 14:58 |
whirm |
bas080: yes, I heard about it, they say holland people tend to look down to the others |
| 14:58 |
whirm |
bas080: No, a spanish student I met in the train while going to the airport to netherlands told me that there are nice beaches there |
| 14:59 |
whirm |
but I did not have time to go too far |
| 14:59 |
Basstard` |
whirm: Beaches or bitches? |
| 14:59 |
* Calinou |
speaks spanish |
| 14:59 |
cornernote |
i have a mod called smooth, but i dont know where it came from |
| 14:59 |
cornernote |
i want to include it in my game |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
shit france education forces you to lrn2threefuckinglanguages |
| 14:59 |
cornernote |
rekon i should just use it, and say author unknowm |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
french (obviously), english (I'm cool with that), spanish (NOT cool with that) |
| 14:59 |
PilzAdam |
<Calinou> shit france |
| 14:59 |
cornernote |
then if the author contacts me, ask for permission ? |
| 14:59 |
Calinou |
spanish is useless |
| 15:00 |
whirm |
Basstard`: we didn't talk about bitches XD |
| 15:00 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, hi french president, i don't like your country |
| 15:00 |
Calinou |
lol :p |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: a mod named 'smooth'? |
| 15:00 |
whirm |
Calinou: are you french? |
| 15:00 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 15:00 |
* PilzAdam |
facepalms |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE_ |
you mean a minetest mod or a piece of music? what does it do? |
| 15:00 |
whirm |
Calinou: I'm half french :) |
| 15:01 |
* PilzAdam |
facepalms half |
| 15:01 |
Basstard` |
Baise-moi. |
| 15:02 |
whirm |
Basstard`: baise-yourself :) |
| 15:02 |
RealBadAngel |
at least |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
15 yrs old who asked what google and firewall is |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
shit we are surrounded by morons |
| 15:03 |
Basstard` |
You love 'em, don't you? |
| 15:03 |
whirm |
morons, morons everywhere |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE_ |
"I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes!" |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE_ |
"Keep firing, assholes!" |
| 15:03 |
RealBadAngel |
open a frigde |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
they will pop up |
| 15:04 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE_: "Keep firing assholes!" |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
1st i pointed him to last build |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
7zip was a problem |
| 15:05 |
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| 15:05 |
bas080 |
whirm, they are just afraid and compensate with arrogance. We are a "multicultural" country but somehow the different cultures don't mix but stay divided |
| 15:05 |
Isabella |
i have a server that works :D |
| 15:05 |
PilzAdam |
wb Isabella |
| 15:05 |
Isabella |
breakingdawn.minetest.ca port: 30005 |
| 15:05 |
whirm |
bas080: why are there afraid? |
| 15:05 |
RealBadAngel |
mother of god, like really? |
| 15:06 |
Isabella |
yes |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
no shit |
| 15:06 |
whirm |
*they |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
ok ok |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
i stop |
| 15:06 |
RealBadAngel |
i had enough with you family/friend Isabella |
| 15:07 |
whirm |
Isabella: update the server! it's too old! |
| 15:07 |
bas080 |
whirm: because of our media. Our media finds it very important to share what nationality committed a crime unless this person is dutch. |
| 15:07 |
Basstard` |
RealBadAngel: Haha. |
| 15:07 |
PilzAdam |
Isabella, use 0.4.2-rc1 |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<RealBadAngel> your age please |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<qwebirc126060> yours first |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<qwebirc126060> 17 |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<qwebirc126060> no |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<qwebirc126060> not 17 |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<RealBadAngel> decide |
| 15:08 |
RealBadAngel |
<qwebirc126060> 15 |
| 15:08 |
bas080 |
whirm: Also some cultures are clashing like Muslim believes and dutch tolerance |
| 15:08 |
whirm |
bas080: I was talking about holland vs the rest of the netherlands |
| 15:08 |
bas080 |
Gays and some women are not accepted by many Muslims. |
| 15:08 |
whirm |
bas080: I know about the muslim problem |
| 15:08 |
whirm |
here in spain its more or less the same |
| 15:08 |
VanessaE_ |
fuck the muslim extremists. sorry. |
| 15:09 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: they are not extremmists |
| 15:09 |
whirm |
just closed minded |
| 15:09 |
whirm |
as fuck |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE_ |
well it's the extremists that are the most vocal here anyway |
| 15:09 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 15:10 |
bas080 |
I don't like taging people. Muslim extremists have variating believes |
| 15:10 |
whirm |
the extremists are the most vocal in all the countries, doesn't matter the nationality I think |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE_ |
if you don't want your religion to look like it's composed of nothing but extremists, haters, pedophiles, etc. then stop acting like it. |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE_ |
simple as that. |
| 15:10 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: just look at the USA :) |
| 15:10 |
bas080 |
What religious gay haters |
| 15:11 |
bas080 |
how is the gay life relevant to theirs... but ok... |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: +1 |
| 15:11 |
RealBadAngel |
religion is opium for masses |
| 15:11 |
bas080 |
somehow it conflicts with their beliefs |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE_ |
RealBadAngel: "opiate"/ |
| 15:11 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: nope |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE_ |
not opium. |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE_ |
and I disagree anyway |
| 15:11 |
RealBadAngel |
and a way to control them |
| 15:11 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: religion is crack for masses |
| 15:11 |
Isabella |
whats wrong with my friend realbadangel |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
add religion to Minetest |
| 15:11 |
whirm |
a bit like football & co. |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
you know? my grand grand pa |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
had cancer |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
gave all his money to the church |
| 15:12 |
RealBadAngel |
it was like 1920-1925 |
| 15:13 |
VanessaE_ |
didn't do a whole lotta good did it? |
| 15:13 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE_, silence hes telling a story |
| 15:13 |
RealBadAngel |
he left wife with 4 daughters |
| 15:13 |
whirm |
wtf |
| 15:13 |
RealBadAngel |
3 of them died because the family had no money |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
of hunger |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
priests tell them to fuck off |
| 15:14 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, not a bad idea. i was thinking about a mod where you have to sacrifice resources to not anger the gods and if you give plenty it gives you some valuable nodes in return. If only god was like that |
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| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
so i fuck the religion and priests |
| 15:14 |
RealBadAngel |
period |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, +100 |
| 15:15 |
VanessaE_ |
G*d ain't gonna fix a broken leg or a lump of cancer in your chest. that's the job of the doctors. |
| 15:15 |
bas080 |
those priests where some greedy sons a bitches |
| 15:15 |
Calinou |
4chan talk in #minetest right now |
| 15:15 |
Calinou |
also: god |
| 15:15 |
* Calinou |
said the forbidden word of today |
| 15:15 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now blame your favorite religion today |
| 15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
wanna see my family in coffins? |
| 15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
dont push it |
| 15:16 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: god ain't gonna fix shit because there's no such think |
| 15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
religion is way to rule the idiots |
| 15:16 |
RealBadAngel |
always was |
| 15:16 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: well belief in such aside, there's a similar phrase as the above that's popular with folks of my religion. |
| 15:16 |
Basstard` |
There is no religion today. Only traditions and stubborn people. |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
is |
| 15:17 |
VanessaE_ |
RealBadAngel: not all religion is like that. |
| 15:17 |
bas080 |
yes but what are the agenda's of those rulers? and why should idiots be at the mercy of some literature. |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
all of them are the same |
| 15:17 |
PilzAdam |
religion gives the people hope and take their money |
| 15:17 |
VanessaE_ |
RealBadAngel: no, they are not all the same. Jews != Muslims for example. |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah yeah |
| 15:17 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: do you belive in the FSM? |
| 15:17 |
RealBadAngel |
blow the building |
| 15:18 |
bas080 |
VanessaE, haha, they both punch eachother |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: gimme a fork and some spaghetti sauce :-) |
| 15:18 |
RealBadAngel |
you will fuck the virgins for the eternity |
| 15:18 |
VanessaE_ |
(and no. I'm Jewish fwiw) |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i think usa citizens gonna like muslims way |
| 15:19 |
VanessaE_ |
NO FUCKING WAY |
| 15:19 |
RealBadAngel |
especially planes and hightowers |
| 15:19 |
whirm |
pastafarianism has the same legitimacy than christianism, judaism and this Jedi one they registered in the USA |
| 15:20 |
* VanessaE_ |
grumbles |
| 15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
praise them, theyre fuckin virgins now in muslim's heaven |
| 15:20 |
bas080 |
what is the origin of religion? |
| 15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
need for power |
| 15:20 |
VanessaE_ |
I can respect people being atheist, but please don't equate all religions to each other. |
| 15:20 |
* Isabella |
wonders |
| 15:20 |
RealBadAngel |
to rule the rest of the horde |
| 15:20 |
PilzAdam |
bas080, stories |
| 15:21 |
bas080 |
yes but it had to have started somewhere... |
| 15:21 |
bas080 |
it wasn't there for eternity... |
| 15:21 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: I'm not saying they are equal (budhism is not the same that catolicism for example) but they have exactly the same legitimacy than pastafiarianism |
| 15:21 |
PilzAdam |
the first humans was telling stories to each other |
| 15:21 |
PilzAdam |
other generations the stories where telled and altered |
| 15:21 |
RealBadAngel |
but some of them told better stories |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
and then someone written them down |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
=> bible |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: I disagree for one reason: all religions have some basis in human nature, psychology, etc. pastafarianism was created as a joke against all the others. |
| 15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
and later noticed they could control anothers with them |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
=> koran |
| 15:22 |
bas080 |
i don't think stories are enough to humble a believer. |
| 15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
look at aegypt |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
over a a long long time they do |
| 15:22 |
RealBadAngel |
priest knew what nile will do |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE_ |
by deliberately being a joke, it automatically becomes far less legit than the others. |
| 15:23 |
RealBadAngel |
common folks had no such knowledge |
| 15:23 |
bas080 |
I ones believed in god. But that was because of fear. |
| 15:23 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: at least is clean from lies and manipulations :) |
| 15:23 |
bas080 |
I didn;t want him to punish me for my deeds and it made sure i was afraid to do things |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE_ |
I don't fear G*d or most other things. |
| 15:24 |
RealBadAngel |
obey, or the god will kick your ass? |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: Judaism doesn't seek to manipulate. at least not the branch I belong to. |
| 15:24 |
bas080 |
Always asking before i could do something. i had to break the rules before i believed that there is no all seeing eye that punishes. |
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| 15:25 |
bas080 |
Just like santa or sinterklaas in the Netherlands. |
| 15:25 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: and you believe that there's a superior being up there that once dictated the rules by which you have to live now? |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE_ |
no. |
| 15:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw Vanessa: i dont like religion that thinks tellin father to sacrifice his son is ok |
| 15:25 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, its called physics |
| 15:25 |
Basstard` |
But where do physics come from, eh? |
| 15:26 |
PilzAdam |
big bang |
| 15:26 |
Basstard` |
And where did that come from, eh? |
| 15:26 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: sorry, I don't believe in physics |
| 15:26 |
RealBadAngel |
wait wait |
| 15:26 |
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| 15:26 |
Basstard` |
And where does this sensation of reality come from, eh? |
| 15:26 |
whirm |
XDD |
| 15:26 |
RealBadAngel |
we do have new theory now |
| 15:26 |
RealBadAngel |
big freeze |
| 15:26 |
VanessaE_ |
I believe there is a superior being who has the good of all beings in mind in a general sense, but I don't believe he ever dictated some rules for people to live by. Not even the ten commandments, and those were supposedly carved by his own (proverbial) hand. |
| 15:26 |
RealBadAngel |
instead of big bang |
| 15:26 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: and how comes you believe this? |
| 15:27 |
bas080 |
you don't believe in physics. You study it or you don't. Experiments and results of experiments are duplicable. if not the theory is not valid. Also noticed that science is much harder then religion. atleast that's my experience. |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: a lifetime of being part of another religion before, examining what people do under the guise of those religions, and evaluating for myself just what is and is not worth believing. What seems logical in a religious sense. |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE_ |
I don't, for example, believe G*d actually punishes or rewards people for their actions here on Earth (that's something to be done in an afterlife, assuming it exists). Can He influence say an animal to run across the street so that you avoid the car wreck you would have had a block further up the road? Sure. No human will to interefere with there. |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE_ |
-e |
| 15:29 |
PilzAdam |
it is posiible that we all are a programm, like minetest |
| 15:29 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: so you believe in this because you have been educated to do so |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: incorrect. |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: I took it upon myself to seek answers, found a religion that makes sense, and saw the others for what they were: lies. |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE_ |
no offense if anyone in here is christian or something. |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: the matrix has you. |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE_ |
knock, knock, PilzAdam. |
| 15:30 |
PilzAdam |
whos there? |
| 15:30 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: and why is precisely yours the good one instead of any of the 1212323 others? because it makes more sense in _your_ head? |
| 15:30 |
bas080 |
Is life not comparable to a biological computer.... |
| 15:31 |
bas080 |
All these organs we have etc kind of make me think of repositories :P |
| 15:31 |
bas080 |
No where's that update? |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: because as a rule we don't seek to destroy others, control people's lives, etc. We believe, as a general rule, that each person is responsible for what they do in this world. The so-called "Golden Rule" is at the very core of my faith. |
| 15:31 |
PilzAdam |
I think one the basics of human beings is, that they want to know what the sense of the life is; but nobody can answer it |
| 15:31 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: you need no religion, nor god to believe this |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE_ |
(Hillel. properly stated, "That which is hateful for someone to do unto you, do not do to another".) |
| 15:32 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: it's called ethics and common sense |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE_ |
exactly. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE_ |
I believe these things independently of my religion. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE_ |
I didn't need a book or house of worship to come to this conclusion. |
| 15:32 |
bas080 |
VanessaE, how can one make a responsible choice if he she is not aware of the context to which there choices apply. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE_ |
which is why my religion fits so well into this. |
| 15:33 |
bas080 |
people make bad choices. are they less worthy to be respected by there god in that case |
| 15:33 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: so someone made up a religion that spins around common sense and ethics |
| 15:33 |
whirm |
and put a god on top of it |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE_ |
Of course not. But if those "bad choices" are made in the context of "I don't give a whit about the consequences" then perhaps they do deserve less of that respect. |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: eh, I wouldn't go that far. But as religions go, I see no reason to choose some other that doesn't at least make sense. |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE_ |
I mean, how do they put it with christianity? something about a zombie rabbi? :-) |
| 15:35 |
bas080 |
I agree with you that everyone should suffer the consequences of there actions. But the consequences that he/she should suffer should not be insisted upon by others. |
| 15:36 |
bas080 |
We are group animals and for many there is no bigger fear then the fear of being excluded |
| 15:37 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: so, you think your religion is the true one because its rules make sense (at your ethical and moral level)? |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE_ |
no. |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE_ |
I think it's the true one because we don't seek to kill others, damn others to some sort of hell for all eternity, etc. |
| 15:38 |
VanessaE_ |
that alone, to my mind, puts us above most other religions. |
| 15:38 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: I don't do that either and I'm an atheist |
| 15:38 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, +1 |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE_ |
fair enough. |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE_ |
as abe and I like to say: better to be an atheist than a christian, muslim, etc. |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE_ |
at least you don't advocate the violence and lies we've seen from those two. |
| 15:40 |
bas080 |
Daily people are excluded from jobs/education and other opportunities because of beliefs. Beliefs are not actions. People should be judged on there actions |
| 15:40 |
whirm |
what I can't understand is: if there's no proof nor clue whatsoever about your (nor any) god, why do you think it does exist? |
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| 15:42 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: good question, for which my only answer would be circular reasoning. |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE_ |
maybe because I was taught to, maybe because I just feel that way, who knows. |
| 15:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_Trilemma |
| 15:43 |
whirm |
VanessaE_: so you where educated to believe in something no one has been able to proof its existence in the whole history of humanity |
| 15:44 |
whirm |
that's almost cruel |
| 15:44 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchhausen_Trilemma |
| 15:44 |
PilzAdam |
you cant proog anything |
| 15:44 |
PilzAdam |
*proof |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE_ |
whirm: hasn't done me any harm. I don't really see a problem. |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: "prove". |
| 15:44 |
PilzAdam |
thx |
| 15:44 |
Basstard` |
I see a reality in front of me. I "know" that it exists, I experience it. I do not know where it comes from, but it is being sustained. The question is, how do I come to know that force that currently sustains "me"? |
| 15:45 |
PilzAdam |
Basstard`, there could also be a computer plugged to your brain that shows you the "reality" |
| 15:45 |
Basstard` |
PilzAdam: Same thing. |
| 15:46 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, maybe your brain is made to do exactly that |
| 15:47 |
whirm |
of course, we can't see the whole reality, so we can't understand everything |
| 15:47 |
whirm |
but that's not my point |
| 15:47 |
tango_ |
wow discussions here surely got way more philosophical than last time I checked |
| 15:49 |
whirm |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn <-- this explains better what I mean |
| 15:50 |
bas080 |
The more we convince ourselves and get feedback from our surroundings about the truthfulness of our believes the less we look for new truths. Simply sais: get out of your comfort zone and who knows you'll learn something from it. |
| 15:51 |
bas080 |
whirm, I can see the invisible pink unicorn all around me! |
| 15:51 |
bas080 |
thank god it's invisible though! |
| 15:51 |
* PilzAdam |
too |
| 15:51 |
whirm |
bas080: are you chatting from a coffe shop after eating some mushrooms? |
| 15:52 |
tango_ |
what makes you think that things seen under the influence are any less real than things seen not under influence |
| 15:52 |
PilzAdam |
you guys know why i love programming games like minetest? |
| 15:53 |
tango_ |
do remind us |
| 15:53 |
PilzAdam |
because you are "God" in this world |
| 15:53 |
vicscandl |
IPU! w00t! |
| 15:53 |
PilzAdam |
you can set all laws |
| 15:53 |
tango_ |
IPU =? |
| 15:53 |
whirm |
oh, I just noticed that the unicorn is female in english XD |
| 15:53 |
vicscandl |
invisible pink unicor == ipu |
| 15:53 |
tango_ |
oh sorry |
| 15:53 |
bas080 |
hehe, i may live in the Netherlands, but drug use is low except for touriststs |
| 15:54 |
whirm |
tango_: I don't know if they are less real, but we need to talk in ecuality of conditions :) |
| 15:54 |
vicscandl |
everytime you type "god" put in "invisible pink unicorn"... it still makes sense... |
| 15:54 |
whirm |
bas080: I was joking of course :) |
| 15:55 |
bas080 |
whirm, except for beer! |
| 15:55 |
tango_ |
whirm: what makes you think that two persons both not under influence are in equality of conditions |
| 15:55 |
bas080 |
that;s a staple in Dutch diet :P |
| 15:55 |
tango_ |
what makes you think that me and you perceive the world in the same way |
| 15:55 |
whirm |
bas080: btw, coffe shops can be used only by residents now, right? |
| 15:56 |
whirm |
bas080: amanita's beer? |
| 15:56 |
PilzAdam |
tango_, maybe what i call red is green for you |
| 15:56 |
bas080 |
You should walk threw a dutch city on a friday.... |
| 15:56 |
bas080 |
whirm: True and not true |
| 15:56 |
whirm |
tango_: if I'm on LSD and you aren't I'm quite sure we won't perceive the world the same way :) |
| 15:57 |
PilzAdam |
tango_, so you call green red beacause all the others call it so |
| 15:57 |
bas080 |
yes you need to have a dutch id in the southern part of the Netherlands from 1st of januari also in the north. |
| 15:57 |
whirm |
bas080: I will soon :) |
| 15:57 |
tango_ |
PilzAdam: exactly. maybe our palettes are all randomized with respect to one another |
| 15:57 |
bas080 |
But they are planning on reversing that law depending on what party will win the elections :) |
| 15:57 |
tango_ |
(aside from the fact that me specifically am colorblind) |
| 15:57 |
whirm |
bas080: lol politics... |
| 15:57 |
whirm |
bas080: was it really a problem? |
| 15:58 |
vicscandl |
so i updated teh client today to be more memory happy |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception |
| 15:58 |
bas080 |
Dutch government just wants to know more about the cannabis sales and production and they want to do it by registering the consumers. Imagine them doing that in supermarkets :P |
| 15:59 |
whirm |
bas080: I had a friend that went to amsterdam to get high for some days, the first one he smoked too much and he went out to get some fresh air, passed out and broke his teeth in the curb |
| 15:59 |
whirm |
XDDDD |
| 15:59 |
whirm |
drugs are bad :D |
| 16:00 |
PilzAdam |
drugs are bad |
| 16:00 |
bas080 |
Hahahaha, i love looking at weed tourists in Amsterdam while i'm sipping a beer on a terrace |
| 16:00 |
bas080 |
mmmkay |
| 16:00 |
whirm |
bas080: so coffe shops wheren't accounting for its sales? |
| 16:01 |
bas080 |
most likely yes. But why not legalize production. That way you can tax farmers and shop keepers and have a clear view on quality and quantity.. |
| 16:01 |
whirm |
? |
| 16:01 |
whirm |
production was not legalized? |
| 16:02 |
bas080 |
But Netherlands is a bit of a police state. They just want to be able to arrest people whenever they want to. NO!!! It is not legal! |
| 16:02 |
whirm |
really? |
| 16:03 |
whirm |
it is legal to sell it but not to cultivate it? |
| 16:03 |
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| 16:03 |
Octupus |
weed isnt legal to sell of grow :) |
| 16:03 |
whirm |
that doesn't make sense at all |
| 16:03 |
bas080 |
You are allowed to own plants. Differs per region. Some regions you can have 5 others 3... but farming is not allowed... there is one province which has tried it... i wonder if it's still ongoing. |
| 16:04 |
whirm |
so what are the coffe shops supposed to sell? |
| 16:04 |
bas080 |
It is not legal but allowed to sell threw a dispensary but dispensaries are not allowed to buy weed :P |
| 16:04 |
bas080 |
High quality weed |
| 16:05 |
PilzAdam |
there is weed in my farming mod |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
minecraft has POTATOES now (latest snapshot) |
| 16:05 |
bas080 |
atleast that's what they all say they sell |
| 16:05 |
* Calinou |
files patent |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/weekly-chunk-paxmineconsnapshot/ |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
patent for corner stairs too |
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| 16:06 |
whirm |
bas080: what's the logical explanation to this law? |
| 16:06 |
PilzAdam |
wb Isabella_ |
| 16:06 |
Isabella_ |
Basstard is a bastard |
| 16:06 |
Isabella_ |
wb? |
| 16:07 |
PilzAdam |
welcome back |
| 16:07 |
Isabella_ |
oh |
| 16:07 |
Isabella_ |
:P |
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| 16:08 |
bas080 |
So they can close or arrest any shopkeeper at any time without violating laws. That is what I think. In the Netherlands you are also required to always have identification on you and you are required to show this to the police whenever they ask for it. |
| 16:09 |
Isabella_ |
yep |
| 16:09 |
whirm |
bas080: about the ID is the same here in spain |
| 16:09 |
PilzAdam |
In germany the police is allowed to take you to the office to chek your id |
| 16:09 |
whirm |
bas080: but do they arrest shopkeepers? |
| 16:10 |
whirm |
bas080: I mean, what interest do they have in arresting them? |
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| 16:11 |
bas080 |
Sometimes minors enter the shops. In that case they get a fine and the shops have to close down. Sometimes they arrest shopkeepers when they are trying to "eradicate" illegal groups. |
| 16:12 |
bas080 |
financial most likely.... in Holland we have a saying "It hurts most when they take money from your wallet" |
| 16:13 |
bas080 |
Dutch government loves giving fines. |
| 16:13 |
whirm |
bas080: you have to come to spain and see here :) |
| 16:13 |
bas080 |
"doet pijn aan je portemonnee" zeg ik dat goed? |
| 16:13 |
* PilzAdam |
dont understand |
| 16:13 |
bas080 |
whirm: why? |
| 16:13 |
whirm |
bas080: they love to fine people too |
| 16:14 |
bas080 |
:P |
| 16:15 |
whirm |
bas080: is it easy to get fined while cycling? |
| 16:16 |
bas080 |
yes and no... if they get allot of complaints from people that are cycling at night without lights or that cyclists are driving threw red to often they setup a checkpoint. |
| 16:17 |
whirm |
and if you go fast? |
| 16:17 |
bas080 |
It almost happened to me.... luckily someone warned me and jumped of my bike and turned into a pedestrian. :P |
| 16:17 |
whirm |
lol |
| 16:17 |
bas080 |
No never! |
| 16:17 |
bas080 |
only when it's dangerous. But most likely you'll get a warning. |
| 16:18 |
whirm |
bas080: ok, that's good, because I tend to go quite fast |
| 16:18 |
bas080 |
We have many cyclist lanes so you would be able to do that safely also. |
| 16:18 |
whirm |
bas080: I know |
| 16:19 |
whirm |
I went from delft to the coast and back |
| 16:19 |
whirm |
biking |
| 16:19 |
bas080 |
what can I say, Small country! |
| 16:19 |
bas080 |
but it's not a big distance either. |
| 16:19 |
whirm |
it's the same size as catalunya I think :) |
| 16:20 |
whirm |
no, but I was able to appreciate the facilities you have there to move on a bike :) |
| 16:21 |
bas080 |
I remember having guests over from other countries and they found it so weird that many people where sitting on the back of each others bikes. |
| 16:21 |
bas080 |
Also when inebriated. |
| 16:21 |
whirm |
hehe, and the half boat-half bike? :D |
| 16:21 |
whirm |
bas080: oh, and a question that's been on my mind for a while now |
| 16:21 |
whirm |
bas080: do people use bikes on winter? |
| 16:21 |
Basstard` |
Where? |
| 16:22 |
bas080 |
yes and they break wrists also. |
| 16:22 |
whirm |
bas080: that's what I feared |
| 16:22 |
whirm |
XD |
| 16:22 |
whirm |
Basstard`: where what? |
| 16:22 |
Basstard` |
I know people who use bikes above the arctic circle, and even at -40 C |
| 16:23 |
bas080 |
Good point. when it snows in teh Netherlands all trains stop working. *Most trains |
| 16:23 |
whirm |
Basstard`: with nails on the wheels? |
| 16:23 |
bas080 |
every year the same story |
| 16:23 |
bas080 |
and every year they are prepared for it " " |
| 16:23 |
Basstard` |
whirm: Regular wheels. |
| 16:23 |
whirm |
bas080: in spain is the same with the rain |
| 16:24 |
whirm |
so the country gets paralized? |
| 16:24 |
whirm |
I mean, if you can't go on train nor on bike... |
| 16:24 |
bas080 |
yep. lot's of excuses at work and school! |
| 16:24 |
whirm |
how do you get to your workplace? XD |
| 16:24 |
bas080 |
with a good excuse |
| 16:25 |
bas080 |
and if your really dutch you skate |
| 16:25 |
bas080 |
ice skating |
| 16:25 |
whirm |
bas080: along the channels :) |
| 16:25 |
bas080 |
yes |
| 16:25 |
bas080 |
there are many |
| 16:25 |
whirm |
bas080: I used to skate |
| 16:26 |
bas080 |
in spain? |
| 16:26 |
whirm |
bas080: I have to try it again |
| 16:26 |
whirm |
bas080: yes |
| 16:26 |
bas080 |
every winter it's a big hype |
| 16:26 |
bas080 |
to go skating |
| 16:26 |
whirm |
bas080: http://www.skatingclub.cat |
| 16:27 |
bas080 |
and when summer comes it's a big hype to go baking in the sun. Year in year out. |
| 16:28 |
whirm |
XD |
| 16:28 |
whirm |
for 4 days a year |
| 16:28 |
whirm |
with a little bit of luck :) |
| 16:28 |
bas080 |
haha, kind of... we had good weather the past few weeks. |
| 16:29 |
whirm |
bas080: this is what I think it will kill my gf when whe go there :) |
| 16:30 |
bas080 |
you said you have a small business. What is your business about? |
| 16:30 |
whirm |
www.zenpl.com |
| 16:32 |
bas080 |
Web development... web stores and marketing threw mail? is that right? |
| 16:32 |
whirm |
XDDD |
| 16:32 |
whirm |
nope |
| 16:33 |
bas080 |
also operating systems? |
| 16:33 |
whirm |
bas080: there's an english version of the page :) |
| 16:33 |
bas080 |
That helps. my Spanish is not that fluent |
| 16:34 |
whirm |
XD |
| 16:34 |
whirm |
bas080: do you study spanish? |
| 16:34 |
bas080 |
I see it's much broader... data mining... |
| 16:35 |
bas080 |
No. lo aprendi quando estuvo en Curacao |
| 16:36 |
bas080 |
Mi papa tenia muchas novias Colombiana :P I no querian aprender hulandes |
| 16:36 |
whirm |
we basically develop custom software based on open source for third party companies that don't know or don't want to do it themselves |
| 16:36 |
whirm |
lol |
| 16:36 |
whirm |
a pity that dutch is so hard to learn |
| 16:37 |
whirm |
bas080: how long do you think it takes to learn enough to have conversations? |
| 16:38 |
bas080 |
Spanish is too. Especially with the verbs and the different times. But i think dutch has many similarities to Spanish. Only speaking requires you to learn some pronunciation when it is not native to you |
| 16:39 |
PilzAdam |
my brother learned spanish and he said its easy because he knows latin |
| 16:40 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: yes, once you know a lating tongue the rest are easier |
| 16:40 |
bas080 |
Hmm, in a month you can learn the basics. Things like i would like... and Where is... and stuff like that. But most time will go in pronounciation. |
| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
bas080, like all european languages |
| 16:40 |
whirm |
my gf learned catalan in 6 months and italian in 6 months more |
| 16:40 |
bas080 |
We have the Sch and che ch and the hard g and some other things that you will find weird in the beginning. |
| 16:41 |
bas080 |
I atually gave dutch lessons to children on curacao and also some to english native speakers here in the netherlands. |
| 16:41 |
PilzAdam |
dutch sounds similar to german (a bit) |
| 16:41 |
bas080 |
NOT! |
| 16:41 |
bas080 |
:P |
| 16:42 |
whirm |
oh, btw, do you know if theres work for english or spanish teachers in the netherlands? |
| 16:42 |
bas080 |
Depends where in germany |
| 16:42 |
whirm |
are they similar at all? (dutch and german) |
| 16:43 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 16:43 |
bas080 |
There are many concerned parents which would love to hire someone that can teach there child spanish or english so they can make there exams well. Also many studies in holland require you to understand 2 langauges besides dutch. There are many courses in spanish and english. |
| 16:44 |
bas080 |
In my experience Spanish and dutch have similarities. I think German and dutch do so too. |
| 16:44 |
whirm |
bas080: where can you find job offers? we looked all over the internetz and there was only jobs in IT, commercial and call centers |
| 16:45 |
cornernote |
which mod has gates ? |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE_ |
gates. :-) |
| 16:45 |
cornernote |
hrmm |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE_ |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=896 |
| 16:46 |
cornernote |
i must have a really old one |
| 16:46 |
whirm |
bas080: yes, for what I was able to read dutch is easier to understand than german to me being spanish and having no idea of neither of them :) |
| 16:46 |
cornernote |
my gates arent nodeboxes |
| 16:46 |
bas080 |
There are some companies which specialize in matching students with teachers. i don't know if they require you to speak Dutch but you can try anywayz. |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE_ |
there was another from around the time doors got added in |
| 16:47 |
whirm |
bas080: how much do you pay to learn dutch? |
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| 16:47 |
whirm |
bas080: If you get tired of my questions just tell me so :) |
| 16:48 |
Isabella |
anyone know where madchicken13 (UbuntuNerd) is |
| 16:48 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 16:48 |
PilzAdam |
wb |
| 16:48 |
Isabella |
thx adam |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: searching... |
| 16:49 |
Isabella |
hahahaha |
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| 16:49 |
cornernote |
no, i see.. there are non-nodebox gates in the mod too |
| 16:49 |
Isabella |
ahhhhh run away!!! |
| 16:49 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
hello |
| 16:49 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 16:49 |
Isabella |
run away from iqualfragile |
| 16:49 |
Isabella |
éme runs |
| 16:49 |
Isabella |
fuck me |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE_ |
wait |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE_ |
gates 1.6 IS the one you want |
| 16:50 |
* Isabella |
runs |
| 16:50 |
Isabella |
whats that |
| 16:50 |
* PilzAdam |
stops her |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE_ |
it's been updated since the old one you had |
| 16:50 |
Isabella |
what has the server m13.sytes.net? |
| 16:51 |
Isabella |
what is the gates 1.6 |
| 16:51 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
vanessE are u the one hows made the flower mod? |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE_ |
Isabella: try to keep up, that message was for cornernote. |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE_ |
sir-king-lol-guy: I made an updated version of it, yes. ironzorg made the original. |
| 16:52 |
Isabella |
oh :( sorry |
| 16:52 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
cool i was looking at the mods today |
| 16:52 |
Isabella |
i saw the ones from pilzadam |
| 16:53 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
same |
| 16:53 |
* Isabella |
is confused from where madchicken13 is |
| 16:54 |
PilzAdam |
hes not here |
| 16:54 |
Isabella |
i know i see that |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: your update to hatches, does it still use the old texture (i.e. will my texture pack's image still work)? :-) |
| 16:55 |
sir-king-lol-guy |
help |
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| 16:55 |
cornernote |
yep |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE_ |
excellent |
| 16:55 |
cornernote |
i just made it so the hatch is at the top of the node |
| 16:55 |
cornernote |
seemed strange you couldnt walk over it |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE_ |
so it has to be placed "down into" the hole it covers? |
| 16:56 |
Isabella |
so no one knows where he is |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE_ |
Isabella: he is banned from the forums is all I know. |
| 16:57 |
Isabella |
why |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE_ |
but he doesn't come here often. |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE_ |
I don't remember. |
| 16:57 |
RealBadAngel |
he posted copyrighted content in the furums |
| 16:57 |
RealBadAngel |
music |
| 16:58 |
Isabella |
he did do music, i wanted to play it bu t i couldnt |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE_ |
cornernote: you should make a zip of the updated mod and add it to your post. |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE_ |
Isabella: it is illegal to spread music that the authors have not expressly released for the purpose. |
| 16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
he not "did" the music. he posted Metallica songs on the forum to download |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE_ |
in most jurisdictions anyway |
| 16:59 |
Isabella |
oh, will he get un-banned sometime??? |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE_ |
probably, dunno when |
| 17:02 |
Isabella |
oh |
| 17:02 |
Isabella |
pɹÉʇsÉq É sı pɹÉʇssÉq ʇÉɥʇ sÊouÊž oÉ¥Ê |
| 17:03 |
PilzAdam |
u live in australia? |
| 17:03 |
Isabella |
me? |
| 17:03 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 17:03 |
Isabella |
nope its a link |
| 17:04 |
PilzAdam |
because you writ |
| 17:04 |
Isabella |
http://toolsgeek.com/upsidedown.php |
| 17:04 |
PilzAdam |
e "down under" |
| 17:04 |
Isabella |
huh? |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
ɯÉpÉzlıd |
| 17:07 |
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| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
2 Isabellas |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
1 died |
| 17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 have a bow wielded? |
| 17:10 |
PilzAdam |
? |
| 17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
shoot the other one |
| 17:11 |
* PilzAdam |
takes his bow |
| 17:11 |
* PilzAdam |
takes his arrow |
| 17:11 |
Isabella_ |
im here |
| 17:11 |
* PilzAdam |
shoots at RealBadAngel |
| 17:11 |
RealBadAngel |
not me :P |
| 17:12 |
PilzAdam |
you in my hell :-p |
| 17:12 |
PilzAdam |
*are |
| 17:12 |
Basstard` |
You in my hell are. |
| 17:12 |
PilzAdam |
you *are* in my hell |
| 17:12 |
RealBadAngel |
well, that must be hell then |
| 17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
indeed |
| 17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
im sittin here with 20kg of apples and a knife |
| 17:13 |
* Isabella_ |
is confused o.o |
| 17:13 |
* PilzAdam |
steals the apples and reaplace the knife witha a stick |
| 17:14 |
Isabella_ |
hahahaha |
| 17:14 |
* PilzAdam |
steals the stick |
| 17:14 |
RealBadAngel |
goin to make apfelmus |
| 17:14 |
* VanessaE_ |
hands RealBadAngel two more sticks and a steel ingot |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE_ |
er, one stick and two ingots even |
| 17:14 |
PilzAdam |
now you are in my hell too, VanessaE_ |
| 17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
grab another knife and helpe damn ;) |
| 17:15 |
* VanessaE_ |
floats calmly above the entrance to PilzAdam's hell and laughs |
| 17:15 |
* PilzAdam |
gives VanessaE_ a burning lollipop |
| 17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i cant c the end of it |
| 17:15 |
* PilzAdam |
teleport VanessaE_ back |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE_ |
RealBadAngel: time to grab the food processor and the sieve :-) |
| 17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
heheheh |
| 17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
everybody |
| 17:17 |
Isabella_ |
whut |
| 17:18 |
RealBadAngel |
is smart not, but to grab the knife and help... |
| 17:18 |
Basstard` |
Whut whut |
| 17:18 |
VanessaE_ |
who? |
| 17:18 |
* khonkhortisan |
wisely stays out of this conversation |
| 17:18 |
* khonkhortisan |
noticed he just said something in this conversation |
| 17:18 |
khonkhortisan |
achievement lost: Wiseness |
| 17:18 |
Isabella_ |
hahahaha |
| 17:19 |
* PilzAdam |
grabs the lost achievement |
| 17:19 |
khonkhortisan |
PilzAdam stays out ofs the conversation :) |
| 17:19 |
* Isabella_ |
doesnt know whats going on |
| 17:19 |
khonkhortisan |
me neither |
| 17:20 |
Basstard` |
Yoda here is. |
| 17:20 |
Isabella_ |
yay lets be buds |
| 17:20 |
Isabella_ |
hahaha joking -.- |
| 17:22 |
* PilzAdam |
puts the wiseness into a locked chat so he cant lose it |
| 17:23 |
Isabella_ |
hahaha |
| 17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
hah some1 mentioned the Force? |
| 17:31 |
RealBadAngel |
its powerful but im afraid not powerful enough |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE_ |
forget the force |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE_ |
use The Schwartz. |
| 17:33 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
you of course do KNOW how it sound and the word similar to it? |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
in german of course |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE_ |
yup |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
youre my man ;) |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
its schwarz and not schwartz |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE_ |
man?? |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
"" |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE_ |
*grumble* |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: Schwartz. See also, "Spaceballs". |
| 17:35 |
Basstard` |
When can then be now? |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE_ |
soon |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarz |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE_ |
PilzAdam: wrong reference. |
| 17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
it was so close to "schwanz" |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
that was the meanin |
| 17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
not told, but almost shown |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE_ |
stands to reason Mel would use that word in Blazing Saddles :-) |
| 17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
use the shwanz Luke!, use the schwanz! |
| 17:39 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 17:39 |
VanessaE_ |
you keep your schwanz to yourself. |
| 17:40 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe ok :) |
| 17:42 |
Basstard` |
Yogurt! |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
mmmmmm |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE_ |
I hate yogurt. even with strawberries. |
| 17:42 |
* PilzAdam |
wants yogurt!!! |
| 17:43 |
RealBadAngel |
well, rite. it looks kimda... digested? |
| 17:43 |
RealBadAngel |
its all rite with me some ate strawberries before |
| 17:44 |
RealBadAngel |
but i dont have to test the results ;) |
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| 17:46 |
iqualfragile |
obey the topic! |
| 17:46 |
iqualfragile |
i am gona blame the islam |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
hallo der Herr |
| 17:46 |
Basstard` |
IRC. Internet Religion Chat. |
| 17:47 |
iqualfragile |
why? because i feel sorry for all those who had to stop eating last month |
| 17:48 |
iqualfragile |
Seid gegrüßt. |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
Wie ist das werte Befinden? |
| 17:49 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls8YA |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 17:52 |
Basstard` |
Is the o in lol the head, and the ll are the arms? |
| 17:52 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 17:52 |
PilzAdam |
| |
| 17:53 |
iqualfragile |
Recht annehmbar, täte ich doch behaupten, und das ihre? |
| 17:53 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 17:53 |
PilzAdam |
| |
| 17:53 |
PilzAdam |
/\ |
| 17:54 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, fabulös! |
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| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, Sie haben sich garnicht verabshiedet. |
| 18:02 |
iqualfragile |
Ich entfernte mich lediglich für eine kürzere Zeitperiode, eine verabschiedung hielt ich infolgedessen für überflüssig |
| 18:02 |
iqualfragile |
. |
| 18:03 |
iqualfragile |
Allerdings erinnern sie mich daran mir endlich einmal einen bouncer zuzulegen |
| 18:03 |
PilzAdam |
So so, ein Herr des schnellen Fußes. |
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| 18:08 |
orbitaldecay |
I'm having random lockups while running the 0.4.1 client on Fedora 17 with the latest Nvidia drivers. Does anyone know anything about this? |
| 18:09 |
Basstard` |
Why use blobs? |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE_ |
I'd blame the video drivers before the game; userland shouldn't be able to hard-crash a linux box. |
| 18:09 |
iqualfragile |
it seems like you would be using properitearntiraent drivers |
| 18:09 |
Basstard` |
"properitearntiraent"? |
| 18:09 |
orbitaldecay |
VanessaE, iqualfragile: Agreed, though the problem is unique to this game, which strikes me as odd |
| 18:10 |
orbitaldecay |
I was just wondering if it was any known bug |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE_ |
not that I've heard of |
| 18:10 |
mika__ |
can i change protocol version, majority of servers i've tested run 11 and i have protocol version 12 |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE_ |
mika__: get an older copy of minetest. |
| 18:10 |
orbitaldecay |
I don't think mem usage is going to 100%, but I'll double check |
| 18:10 |
orbitaldecay |
thanks :) |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE_ |
mika__: or bug the server admins to upgrade :-) |
| 18:11 |
Basstard` |
Blobs are bugs. |
| 18:11 |
mika__ |
Any one here having a 0.4.2 server, i run ubuntu and its pain to install |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE_ |
minetest is dead easy to build on ubuntu. |
| 18:11 |
PilzAdam |
http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
| 18:11 |
* VanessaE_ |
<-- xubuntu user. builds her own. |
| 18:12 |
* PilzAdam |
<-- Kubuntu user. builds his own. |
| 18:12 |
iqualfragile |
runing one on fedora |
| 18:12 |
Basstard` |
<-- Trisquel user. Rolls his own. |
| 18:13 |
mika__ |
i look to have the worst system, ubuntu 12.04 |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE_ |
mika__: 12.04 here too. |
| 18:14 |
orbitaldecay |
mika_: It should be pretty easy to build on 12.04, I did it last week |
| 18:14 |
orbitaldecay |
What problems are you having? |
| 18:14 |
mika__ |
its just the terminal commands i don't get |
| 18:15 |
orbitaldecay |
Ah, yes they can be confusing if you don't have practice with them |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L97 |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
this 2 commands will compile it |
| 18:16 |
RealBadAngel |
rotfl |
| 18:16 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0&feature=related |
| 18:16 |
RealBadAngel |
watch this |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
mika__, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHbCH4smxRQ |
| 18:19 |
mika__ |
now i got to the server, but it doesnt draw the map |
| 18:19 |
mika__ |
and the i respawn every few seconds 5-10 steps back |
| 18:20 |
mika__ |
is glomis here? |
| 18:20 |
PilzAdam |
mika__, maybe a bad internet connection? |
| 18:21 |
mika__ |
i have a 2mb connection, but it shouldnt bug that much |
| 18:21 |
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| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 18:30 |
mika__ |
now im building the pack as the youtube showed, believe me it can still go wrong |
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| 18:46 |
mika__ |
how big connection does this take to run or is the server a dial up |
| 18:47 |
mika__ |
i'm trying to get to a server where i don't see anyone online but i'm stuck in the air |
| 18:48 |
mika__ |
im talking about minetest not this irc. my english aint that good and im getting frustrated |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
you tried different servers? |
| 18:49 |
Isabella_ |
*yawn* im tired |
| 18:50 |
mika__ |
havent found others |
| 18:50 |
Isabella_ |
its been a very long day for me |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
http://servers.minetest.ru/ |
| 18:51 |
mika__ |
almost all have protocol 11 and i have 12 |
| 18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest.freedns.in 30000 |
| 18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
always up to date |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
warnin: there is some music |
| 18:53 |
mika__ |
ill try it. seems like that glomis server doesnt take more than 4 people |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
let it cache for the 1st time |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
so make a break while connecting |
| 18:54 |
RealBadAngel |
damn, im done with circa half of the apples |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
gtg |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 18:56 |
mika__ |
realbadangel, cache, what do you mean? |
| 18:59 |
mika__ |
this server lags to with loading the map |
| 19:04 |
Isabella_ |
im bored :( |
| 19:04 |
Isabella_ |
and tired, i can go to sleep o my pc |
| 19:04 |
Isabella_ |
*zzzzzz* |
| 19:05 |
Isabella_ |
pÇɹıʇ sı ÇslÇ oÉ¥Ê |
| 19:06 |
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| 19:12 |
RealBadAngel |
what? |
| 19:12 |
whirm1 |
bye everyone |
| 19:13 |
RealBadAngel |
c ya |
| 19:13 |
mika__ |
RealBadAngel, similar error occured on that server |
| 19:16 |
mika__ |
i watch system monitor now when i load that minetest.freedns.in 30000, it is download approx 10-15KiB/s and upload 1,3 - 2.0 Kib/s |
| 19:16 |
mika__ |
or receiving / sending |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
connect and wait like 5 minutes |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
or wait |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
a sec |
| 19:20 |
mika__ |
ok |
| 19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry my ftp is somehow slow |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i have there all the servers cache to fast download |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
but it seems to be down atm |
| 19:23 |
RealBadAngel |
just connect and wait |
| 19:23 |
RealBadAngel |
1st connection will dowload all media |
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| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
once done, each next attempt will take a few seconds |
| 19:30 |
mika__ |
are you running ubuntu? |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
on this box no |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
got it on media one |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
12.04 used to store media files |
| 19:32 |
mika__ |
ok, i wonder how it is nowadays with ati and amd support |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
shitty |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
in my case drivers refused to work |
| 19:33 |
mika__ |
i remember having problems when i had 10.04, the this 12.04 came and i installed windows xp but i got so crappy components that i havent found any system that would work |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
radeon |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
open source drivers work |
| 19:34 |
mika__ |
ok, i still have 939 socket cpu |
| 19:34 |
RealBadAngel |
but when you go for propertiatry... |
| 19:34 |
RealBadAngel |
comedy starts |
| 19:35 |
RealBadAngel |
Torvalds already told "fuck you nvidia" |
| 19:35 |
RealBadAngel |
shall do the same towards amd |
| 19:35 |
mika__ |
my specs : asus a8n32 sli deluxe, amd athlon 64 x2 4800+, 2gb 400mhz ram, 512mb radeon x1950xtx |
| 19:36 |
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| 19:36 |
RealBadAngel |
the vid is the problem with most nowadays installs |
| 19:36 |
RealBadAngel |
those bastards refuse to release proper drivers for it |
| 19:36 |
RealBadAngel |
shall be sued for it |
| 19:38 |
RealBadAngel |
its a cartel |
| 19:38 |
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| 19:39 |
RealBadAngel |
they do it, but its like half a year after windows ones |
| 19:40 |
mika__ |
vid? |
| 19:40 |
RealBadAngel |
gfx card |
| 19:40 |
RealBadAngel |
video in short |
| 19:40 |
mika__ |
i think the main problem is 3d acceleration, like directx in windows |
| 19:41 |
RealBadAngel |
main problem is monopoly made by gates |
| 19:41 |
mika__ |
apple is taking over |
| 19:41 |
RealBadAngel |
what? where? |
| 19:42 |
RealBadAngel |
never saw an apple comp in europe :P |
| 19:42 |
RealBadAngel |
heard of it just |
| 19:43 |
RealBadAngel |
apple is unix like system anyway |
| 19:43 |
RealBadAngel |
in fact i can even install mac os here on my pc |
| 19:44 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-mac-os-x-on-a-pc-without-using-a-mac/ |
| 19:45 |
RealBadAngel |
first found by uncle google |
| 19:45 |
RealBadAngel |
so, whos takin over? |
| 19:46 |
mika__ |
ok |
| 19:47 |
RealBadAngel |
dont mess such things |
| 19:47 |
RealBadAngel |
those r just operating systems |
| 19:48 |
RealBadAngel |
apple uses the same hardware as ony others |
| 19:49 |
mika__ |
yes, i don't understand the fanatics about apple and samsung, when samsung is the manufacturer of all parts |
| 19:49 |
iqualfragile |
no, that cant be |
| 19:50 |
iqualfragile |
there has to be some magic powder in it somewhere |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
when i need a computer |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i take mobo |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
choose processor |
| 19:50 |
iqualfragile |
how could the take so much money for it if there isnt |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
decide what kind of ram i need |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
storage |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
vid |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
then take proper power supply |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
coolers |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
and assembly it |
| 19:51 |
mika__ |
even the case costs a lot |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
this one im on right now |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
is water cooled |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
slowed down |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
designed to work 24/7 |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
sometimes i do reboot this machine |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
never turn it off |
| 19:52 |
mika__ |
i have 1 cpu fan with a block, 1 rear fan and the powersupply has a fan |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
all the sounds come from keyboard and 2nd hdd |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
when woke up |
| 19:53 |
mika__ |
1hdd an ssd or what they're called |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
its ssd |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
flash drive |
| 19:54 |
RealBadAngel |
should say "drive" |
| 19:54 |
RealBadAngel |
its pure electronic circuit |
| 19:54 |
RealBadAngel |
no motors at all |
| 19:55 |
RealBadAngel |
gives system an incredible kick |
| 19:55 |
RealBadAngel |
no matter win or linux |
| 19:56 |
mika__ |
yea, but they aint vheap |
| 19:56 |
mika__ |
cheap* |
| 19:56 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
but thats way better to get older cpu |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
older gfx |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
with good ram modules and flash disk |
| 19:58 |
mika__ |
i have a nvidia card on the bookshelf, neither me or my brother have found a computer where it would work, may be damaged |
| 19:58 |
RealBadAngel |
before i was a fan of nvidia |
| 19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
then after some kernel panics tried amd |
| 19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
now i dont know really |
| 19:59 |
mika__ |
its an 8800gtx 768mb card i have on the shelf. im just waiting for warranty to end on moms hp to test it there |
| 19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
both producers piss off at linux users |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
dont wait |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
take +12v power supply |
| 20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
connect + to the cards zero |
| 20:00 |
mika__ |
? |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
and with the other end touch the circuit |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
you will burn it to death, non traceable |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
then sent it to repair |
| 20:01 |
RealBadAngel |
they will have no choice just to replace it |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
propaply with somethin newer |
| 20:02 |
mika__ |
it's my brothers card and i don't remember when he bought it, if there is any warranty on it anymore |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
check the warranty first |
| 20:02 |
RealBadAngel |
the way i told ya |
| 20:03 |
RealBadAngel |
i was workin once in computer service company |
| 20:03 |
mika__ |
ok |
| 20:03 |
mika__ |
you o |
| 20:03 |
mika__ |
you aint that young that i expected in a place like this |
| 20:03 |
RealBadAngel |
it was nice way to recycle old stuff and get new in place |
| 20:04 |
mika__ |
haha |
| 20:04 |
RealBadAngel |
i designed for it 4amps power supply |
| 20:05 |
RealBadAngel |
with no fuses at all |
| 20:05 |
mika__ |
ok |
| 20:05 |
RealBadAngel |
toroidal one |
| 20:05 |
RealBadAngel |
was workin like a charm |
| 20:05 |
mika__ |
toroidal? |
| 20:06 |
RealBadAngel |
round one |
| 20:06 |
RealBadAngel |
the tranformer |
| 20:06 |
mika__ |
ok |
| 20:06 |
RealBadAngel |
*s |
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| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
holy shit |
| 20:07 |
mika__ |
what? |
| 20:07 |
Isabella |
whut |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
she |
| 20:07 |
Isabella |
oh yea its me :( |
| 20:07 |
mika__ |
surprised of a female here? |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
maaaaaan |
| 20:07 |
RealBadAngel |
not a bit even |
| 20:08 |
Isabella |
boo hoo hoo |
| 20:08 |
RealBadAngel |
shes special |
| 20:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you will see |
| 20:08 |
Isabella |
waaaaa |
| 20:08 |
Isabella |
waaahaaahaaaa |
| 20:08 |
iqualfragile |
oh dear |
| 20:08 |
iqualfragile |
not again |
| 20:08 |
mika__ |
i cant get to this one server =( |
| 20:08 |
iqualfragile |
someone get a doctor |
| 20:09 |
RealBadAngel |
wheres beeeeeeer? |
| 20:09 |
RealBadAngel |
i need antidote |
| 20:10 |
mika__ |
RealBadAngel, is there any smaller maps to this game than that on minetest.freedns.in |
| 20:10 |
RealBadAngel |
that general server is know to hold and serve all the new and up to date stuff |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
so, plz try to connect |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
wait 5 minutes |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
later on you will connect in seconds |
| 20:11 |
RealBadAngel |
worth waitin just once |
| 20:12 |
mika__ |
swearing the server seems to work |
| 20:12 |
mika__ |
i got into glomies server for a change |
| 20:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i do play on this server |
| 20:13 |
RealBadAngel |
partially its my fault it loads so slow |
| 20:13 |
mika__ |
176.31.175.144 30000? |
| 20:13 |
RealBadAngel |
we added music there |
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| 20:13 |
mika__ |
ok, what nick you use here? |
| 20:13 |
MiJyn |
mien |
| 20:13 |
MiJyn |
*mine |
| 20:14 |
mika__ |
realbadangel, do you play on 176.31.175.144? |
| 20:15 |
RealBadAngel |
dns? |
| 20:15 |
Isabella |
beeeer??? |
| 20:15 |
Isabella |
oh, here i gots a server |
| 20:15 |
RealBadAngel |
brought one? how sweet of you |
| 20:16 |
Isabella |
no i have a server that will work, maybe |
| 20:17 |
mika__ |
isabella, what version? |
| 20:17 |
RealBadAngel |
im on minetest.freedns.in |
| 20:17 |
Isabella |
0.4.1 i think |
| 20:18 |
Isabella |
why |
| 20:18 |
RealBadAngel |
042 rc1 |
| 20:18 |
Isabella |
how do you change nickname |
| 20:18 |
RealBadAngel |
and latest build |
| 20:19 |
mika__ |
tought of joining the server, i got 0.4.2 |
| 20:19 |
Isabella |
oh |
| 20:21 |
Isabella |
minetes.mydns.co port 30005? |
| 20:21 |
Isabella |
minetest.mydns.co sorry |
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| 20:22 |
RealBadAngel |
we do wait on you to join |
| 20:24 |
Isabella |
ok im on? |
| 20:26 |
RealBadAngel |
cant see ya |
| 20:28 |
Isabella |
your not in -.- |
| 20:29 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 20:29 |
Isabella |
really, its fun! :D |
| 20:29 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest.freedns.in |
| 20:29 |
RealBadAngel |
port 30000 |
| 20:29 |
Isabella |
oh im going to a fair tomorrow night :D im so excited! |
| 20:30 |
Isabella |
sure try but the address in minetest.mydns.co |
| 20:30 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry thats not my server lady :P |
| 20:31 |
Isabella |
thats what server i am in -.- |
| 20:32 |
RealBadAngel |
your bad luck |
| 20:32 |
RealBadAngel |
pity |
| 20:32 |
RealBadAngel |
what a shame |
| 20:32 |
* RealBadAngel |
cries |
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* NekoGloop |
lol's at the topos |
| 20:32 |
NekoGloop |
topic* |
| 20:33 |
RealBadAngel |
hi gloop |
| 20:34 |
NekoGloop |
Ho rba |
| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
join the server |
| 20:34 |
NekoGloop |
Ipad |
| 20:35 |
RealBadAngel |
ahg |
| 20:36 |
RealBadAngel |
i wanted to show you gloop ores effect |
| 20:36 |
NekoGloop |
I know what they do |
| 20:36 |
NekoGloop |
But only rarely |
| 20:36 |
RealBadAngel |
man tune it |
| 20:36 |
RealBadAngel |
DOWN |
| 20:36 |
Isabella |
hmm |
| 20:36 |
NekoGloop |
I've seen about 2 rainbow caves on the server |
| 20:37 |
RealBadAngel |
i was lookin for my ores |
| 20:37 |
NekoGloop |
Let's just say you got lucky, hm? |
| 20:37 |
RealBadAngel |
i made them very rare |
| 20:37 |
RealBadAngel |
and on the trip |
| 20:37 |
RealBadAngel |
i could see just your all around |
| 20:37 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 20:37 |
RealBadAngel |
rainbow caves |
| 20:37 |
NekoGloop |
Rba's just-a trollin' |
| 20:38 |
RealBadAngel |
sure sure |
| 20:38 |
RealBadAngel |
near my base is a buildin |
| 20:38 |
RealBadAngel |
made of cobble |
| 20:38 |
Isabella |
im bored now even though i still have sume chores to do |
| 20:38 |
RealBadAngel |
beneath there is glooooooopish purple ore |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
like 100 nodes |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
in one place |
| 20:39 |
NekoGloop |
100 blocks or ores? |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
look |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
you made it |
| 20:39 |
NekoGloop |
I cant -_- |
| 20:39 |
NekoGloop |
And no i didnt make it :l |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
all purple |
| 20:40 |
mika__ |
is it possible to make anything else than tools with bronze or diamond ingots? |
| 20:40 |
RealBadAngel |
ore decided to spawn on itself? |
| 20:40 |
NekoGloop |
Huh? |
| 20:40 |
NekoGloop |
If its in an already generated chunk... |
| 20:41 |
NekoGloop |
It shouldnt spawn |
| 20:41 |
RealBadAngel |
so why you said it wasnt me |
| 20:41 |
RealBadAngel |
think some1 added it? |
| 20:41 |
NekoGloop |
So ask muad, he must have either changed the code or someone has give privs |
| 20:41 |
RealBadAngel |
for diamonds usage check technic page |
| 20:42 |
RealBadAngel |
some machines and laser use diamonds already |
| 20:42 |
bas080 |
plz add craft guide. that way everyone can see what can be crafted |
| 20:42 |
RealBadAngel |
damn |
| 20:42 |
RealBadAngel |
i didnt??? |
| 20:43 |
RealBadAngel |
or shall i provide glasses for all users too ? ;) |
| 20:43 |
bas080 |
I got mine |
| 20:43 |
RealBadAngel |
bas |
| 20:43 |
RealBadAngel |
in game plz |
| 20:43 |
bas080 |
k |
| 20:48 |
Isabella |
whats up with "the ores" thing! |
| 21:03 |
RealBadAngel |
bas? |
| 21:03 |
RealBadAngel |
ingame |
| 21:05 |
RealBadAngel |
ywan |
| 21:05 |
RealBadAngel |
nothin really |
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| 21:34 |
Octupus |
hello every1 |
| 21:34 |
Octupus |
i need some help |
| 21:34 |
Octupus |
any1 willing to help |
| 21:34 |
NekoGloop |
Not me |
| 21:35 |
Octupus |
its easy |
| 21:35 |
Octupus |
i just need help with uploading a adven map |
| 21:35 |
Octupus |
me and my friend made a adven map and we need to upload it |
| 21:36 |
bas080 |
no one that has experience with this??? well you do know where to find the map right? |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
how do we upload it with all the files properly that it works |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
yes |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
worlds |
| 21:36 |
bas080 |
did you use any mods? |
| 21:36 |
Octupus |
yes |
| 21:37 |
Octupus |
tnt mesecon moreores |
| 21:37 |
bas080 |
ok. then you have to make sure your saved map is opened with the mods installed... |
| 21:37 |
Octupus |
how? |
| 21:37 |
bas080 |
Why not make a nice bundle of the map and the mods that you used |
| 21:37 |
Octupus |
yea but how |
| 21:38 |
bas080 |
You drag your saved map to a folder and then you drag the mods you used to that folder too. |
| 21:38 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 21:38 |
bas080 |
Let people figure it out how they shoudl install it.... remember though make screenshots. give them a reason to play your awesome adventure map |
| 21:39 |
Octupus |
yea |
| 21:39 |
Octupus |
what im going 2do is make my friend |
| 21:39 |
Octupus |
copy all the code he used and put it into a diff |
| 21:39 |
Octupus |
notepad thing |
| 21:40 |
Octupus |
then make him move it over to a file called mods |
| 21:40 |
Octupus |
and and the map on it 2 |
| 21:40 |
Octupus |
then BAM it shud world right ? |
| 21:40 |
Octupus |
*work |
| 21:41 |
bas080 |
yeah, the map shouldn't be in mods folder. |
| 21:41 |
Octupus |
ik |
| 21:41 |
Octupus |
into 1 folder compltelty i guess |
| 21:41 |
Octupus |
in the folder there is 2 mods and worlds |
| 21:43 |
bas080 |
yeah that sounds good. What kind of adventure map is it? |
| 21:45 |
Octupus |
a in the sky 1 |
| 21:45 |
bas080 |
what's the goal? |
| 21:45 |
Octupus |
to complete challenges that are left |
| 21:46 |
Octupus |
i think the next 1 will be a puzzle |
| 21:46 |
bas080 |
wwhat kind of challenges? |
| 21:46 |
Octupus |
finding certain type of blocks |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
build a house |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
build a mesecon door |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
stuff like that |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
and they cant cheat |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
because we put a cloud openning under it |
| 21:47 |
bas080 |
ok. cool is it a adventure map or a game? |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
so if they fall they fall in water :) |
| 21:47 |
Octupus |
map |
| 21:48 |
bas080 |
and what then? |
| 21:48 |
Octupus |
its a challenge map |
| 21:48 |
Octupus |
make a fountain i shud put in aa challenge |
| 21:48 |
bas080 |
what can you do when you fall in water? |
| 21:49 |
Octupus |
something stops ppl from cheting |
| 21:49 |
Octupus |
like if they try to leave they cant |
| 21:49 |
Octupus |
by eguys |
| 21:50 |
Octupus |
cp about 2 die |
| 21:50 |
bas080 |
derpederp |
| 22:02 |
Basstard` |
Is it tentacle erotica evening? |
| 22:02 |
NekoGloop |
No it is not |
| 22:02 |
Basstard` |
I see an octopus. |
| 22:02 |
NekoGloop |
You perv |
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| 22:12 |
hmmmmmm |
how do you disable clouds? |
| 22:13 |
Basstard` |
You blow them away. |
| 22:13 |
NekoGloop |
You can make 2d clouds by unselecting 3d clouds in options |
| 22:15 |
bas080 |
Basstard, get a life. Octopus is not a for sex. It's a very smart and interesting animal. |
| 22:25 |
NekoGloop |
Y so quiet lol |
| 22:26 |
bas080 |
long day |
| 22:26 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 22:31 |
Basstard` |
bas080: Haha. |
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vicscandl |
meep |
| 22:47 |
NakedFury |
hi |
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| 23:51 |
NekoGloop |
Hello people? |
| 23:53 |
MiJyn |
hello nekogloop? |
| 23:53 |
NekoGloop |
Yay someone's here :3 |
| 23:54 |
GTRsdk |
hey NekoGloop |
| 23:54 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 23:55 |
* GTRsdk |
loves NekoGloop 's gloopores mod |
| 23:55 |
NekoGloop |
Thank you :3 |
| 23:56 |
NekoGloop |
Have you gotten all 5 of them? |
| 23:56 |
GTRsdk |
not yet |
| 23:56 |
GTRsdk |
I haven't played much for a while |
| 23:57 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 23:57 |
GTRsdk |
been trying to get an easily distributable adhoc pack && server control panel setup |
| 23:57 |
NekoGloop |
One's only in deserts :3 |
