| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
* VanessaE |
offers all some "polar ice" sugar free gum |
| 00:00 |
* NekoGloop |
refuses |
| 00:02 |
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| 00:02 |
NekoGloop_ |
>.> |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop_ |
damn you webchat |
| 00:05 |
NekoGloop_ |
FINALLY |
| 00:12 |
* OldCoder |
accepts sugar free virtual gump |
| 00:13 |
OldCoder |
Ha |
| 00:13 |
OldCoder |
gump gum gimp |
| 00:13 |
* OldCoder |
want sugar free GIMP |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: well technically there are two sugar-free gimps in this house :-) |
| 00:15 |
VanessaE |
(going by the definition that gimp = disabled) |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
Ha |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I got it :-) |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I have spent type in similar circumstances |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
*time |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
Weird typos |
| 00:16 |
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| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone here? :P |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
no :-) |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I think it's time for you to find a new IRC client :-) |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Why? |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
because you're always losing your connection? :-) |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
I went to my ipad |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Am on ipad nows |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Now* |
| 00:17 |
* OldCoder |
read that as ipad snow |
| 00:17 |
OldCoder |
An interesting concept |
| 00:18 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:29 |
* JamieWill |
AFFK |
| 00:29 |
* JamieWill |
AFK |
| 00:30 |
JamieWill |
Befor i go my post has had 500 views yay me :) |
| 00:30 |
OldCoder |
Hooray |
| 00:30 |
NekoGloop |
Kewl |
| 00:30 |
JamieWill |
first time really on the forums |
| 00:31 |
JamieWill |
apart from on other |
| 00:31 |
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| 00:40 |
NekoGloop |
Meow~? |
| 00:42 |
OldCoder |
Yes? |
| 00:42 |
* NekoGloop |
wants to be petted :3 |
| 00:45 |
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| 00:45 |
* OldCoder |
pets NekoGloop very carefully |
| 00:46 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs slightly :3 |
| 00:52 |
NekoGloop |
Someone needs to make a mesecons computer that uses like 5 chunks :3 |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
someone will I'm sure |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
with those microcontrollers it won't take much |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
especially if you can cram enough code into them :-) |
| 00:53 |
keegan |
hey m making my first mod!! :))) |
| 01:04 |
OldCoder |
keegan, Oh? |
| 01:05 |
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| 01:05 |
NekoGloop |
Mind sharing some more information? |
| 01:05 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Guess what guys!?!?! |
| 01:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Anyone? |
| 01:06 |
NakedFury |
what |
| 01:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I made a very primitive ALU |
| 01:07 |
NakedFury |
with mese? |
| 01:07 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Yup |
| 01:07 |
NekoGloop |
Kewl |
| 01:07 |
_2cool4me4_ |
2 bit, 1 function, ~3 second clock speed. :/ |
| 01:07 |
NekoGloop |
Make a vid and share with the world |
| 01:08 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I can't make a video right now |
| 01:08 |
NekoGloop |
Then share your map |
| 01:08 |
_2cool4me4_ |
DCC? |
| 01:09 |
NakedFury |
what can it do in game? |
| 01:09 |
NekoGloop |
Zip it and upload it to some file sharing site |
| 01:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's a 0.4.2 rc1 map |
| 01:10 |
NekoGloop |
... And? |
| 01:10 |
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| 01:10 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Jus' saying |
| 01:10 |
Madchicken13 |
hello? |
| 01:10 |
NekoGloop |
Latest version of mesecons requires 0.4.2-rc1, right? |
| 01:11 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Yep |
| 01:11 |
Madchicken13 |
can you still download mesecons for minetest 0.4.1? |
| 01:11 |
NekoGloop |
Nope |
| 01:11 |
Madchicken13 |
ok |
| 01:11 |
NekoGloop |
I could upload the one that works, if i really wanted to |
| 01:11 |
Madchicken13 |
and can someone help me? |
| 01:11 |
NekoGloop |
But i dont, and i'm kinda on my ipad |
| 01:12 |
Madchicken13 |
can you code neko |
| 01:13 |
Madchicken13 |
hello? |
| 01:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://www.mediafire.com/?v3jbb65cdnuyp5b |
| 01:13 |
NekoGloop |
Sort of |
| 01:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Mesecons World |
| 01:13 |
Madchicken13 |
can you help me? |
| 01:13 |
NekoGloop |
I'm on my ipad and multitasking with youtube. |
| 01:13 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, sure, why not? |
| 01:15 |
_2cool4me4_ |
lol |
| 01:15 |
Madchicken13 |
ok well im just wondering if its possible to code my mod to where you can set the warps with a command instead of intering the coordantes into the init.lua of the mod |
| 01:16 |
_2cool4me4_ |
That's an interesting though |
| 01:16 |
NekoGloop |
I cannot help with that but maybe you could reference the default teleporting procedures? |
| 01:17 |
Madchicken13 |
what is the name aof that mod? |
| 01:17 |
_2cool4me4_ |
If the clock speed of my thing is 3 seconds, think of the clock of a 32 bit full computer! |
| 01:18 |
NekoGloop |
I have no idea |
| 01:18 |
NakedFury |
what do you do in game with the ALU? |
| 01:18 |
NekoGloop |
Just know that on the server you griefed there was teleporting |
| 01:18 |
_2cool4me4_ |
You click on a button to set it to on, or 1 |
| 01:18 |
Madchicken13 |
o you mean the teleporting mod? |
| 01:18 |
_2cool4me4_ |
*actually it's a switch* |
| 01:19 |
Madchicken13 |
ok ill work with trail and error |
| 01:19 |
_2cool4me4_ |
That's always a good way. |
| 01:22 |
_2cool4me4_ |
So do you like my ALU? |
| 01:22 |
NekoGloop |
I'm on my ipad, cant download |
| 01:22 |
_2cool4me4_ |
ugh |
| 01:23 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Wish I could figure out how to compile the C++ code for Android |
| 01:23 |
NekoGloop |
Lolni |
| 01:24 |
NekoGloop |
Still would need to be both for an ipad, and me jailbreaking this thing. |
| 01:24 |
_2cool4me4_ |
yup |
| 01:29 |
NakedFury |
you havent done that to the ipad already? |
| 01:31 |
NekoGloop |
Nope |
| 01:34 |
NekoGloop |
Meow~ |
| 01:35 |
_2cool4me4_ |
:-S |
| 01:35 |
* NekoGloop |
wants to be petted :3 |
| 01:36 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
runs again |
| 01:36 |
* NekoGloop |
pouts :( |
| 01:37 |
* vicscandl |
runs out for beer and smokes... |
| 01:37 |
* NekoGloop |
is still pouting because noone will pet me :( |
| 01:38 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
shows this face:http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg |
| 01:40 |
NekoGloop |
Uh lol put a space between the link and the colon |
| 01:40 |
_2cool4me4_ |
IceChat always does that :/ |
| 01:40 |
NekoGloop |
Then fix it? |
| 01:40 |
_2cool4me4_ |
oh wait, sorry |
| 01:40 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
shows this face: http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets -s328x328-303070-535.jpg |
| 01:41 |
NekoGloop |
Now you broke the link in parts |
| 01:42 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Stupid client |
| 01:42 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
shows this face: shows this face:http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg |
| 01:42 |
_2cool4me4_ |
FFFF |
| 01:42 |
NekoGloop |
Get on the webchat |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_ a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
FUFDIOS:DGJKL:SIERUJFIGUISHDFKJCDCVHJNE#R@#^Y&%^ |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
you suck :-) |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
DUD |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
DUDE* |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-30 3070-535.jpg |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
ugh |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
GET ON THE FREAKIN WEBCHAT |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
NEVAR |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg |
| 01:43 |
NekoGloop |
http://webchat.freenode.net/ |
| 01:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
YESH |
| 01:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I GOTS IT |
| 01:44 |
NekoGloop |
And now it's so freakin late i forgot what we were talking about. |
| 01:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
NOUUOUUUUU |
| 01:44 |
* khonkhortisan |
is back: VACATION |
| 01:44 |
khonkhortisan |
and you're still here |
| 01:45 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I Am going to go get my tablet on here |
| 01:45 |
* NekoGloop |
is back: CREEPYPASTA |
| 01:45 |
* _2cool4me4_ |
is scared |
| 01:45 |
khonkhortisan |
I missed the mesecon nodebox commit |
| 01:45 |
NekoGloop |
NEW MOD IDEA: HEROBRINE!!!!!! |
| 01:45 |
NakedFury |
no |
| 01:46 |
khonkhortisan |
so you'll have a green mob running around? |
| 01:46 |
NekoGloop |
Lolno |
| 01:46 |
NakedFury |
complete crap idea |
| 01:46 |
NekoGloop |
No, depends on how far you take it |
| 01:46 |
NakedFury |
go back to the drawing board with that idea |
| 01:46 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I have 5 minutes to wait until this upload is finnish |
| 01:47 |
NekoGloop |
One 'mob' with the ability to dig tunnels, kill the player, and intelligently mobilize? |
| 01:47 |
_2cool4me4_ |
noes |
| 01:47 |
NakedFury |
like that yes, called herobrine no |
| 01:47 |
NakedFury |
BUT |
| 01:47 |
NakedFury |
it can't know where the player is |
| 01:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://www.mediafire.com/?v3jbb65cdnuyp5b |
| 01:48 |
NakedFury |
we cant have homing missile type mobs |
| 01:48 |
khonkhortisan |
no fun if there were |
| 01:48 |
NekoGloop |
I dont even know how to make an entity that destroys itself instantly |
| 01:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
*beep beep beep BEEPBEEPBEEP* |
| 01:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
OH * |
| 01:49 |
khonkhortisan |
look at particles, I used it to sort of make rain |
| 01:49 |
_2cool4me4_ |
can anyone actually access Minetest right now? |
| 01:49 |
NakedFury |
that was an example. what I meant to say is not make a monster that knows where you are and instatly goes towards you like a missile |
| 01:49 |
khonkhortisan |
it has to see you first |
| 01:49 |
NekoGloop |
Or see something you made, and take it for its own |
| 01:50 |
NekoGloop |
Give it its own inventory, allow it to build |
| 01:50 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Are you kidding? |
| 01:50 |
NekoGloop |
Nopw |
| 01:50 |
NakedFury |
"<khonkhortisan> it has to see you first" BUT it would need a limit to how far it can see. we dont want it to see 1k meters |
| 01:51 |
NakedFury |
neko scrap that unless you want to spend months making AI that can build |
| 01:51 |
_2cool4me4_ |
If the land isn't loaded over there, you have no worries |
| 01:51 |
NakedFury |
be happy with it mining 2x2 tunnels |
| 01:51 |
NakedFury |
1x2 tunnels |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: "Workers" mod -> AI that can build. |
| 01:51 |
VanessaE |
dunno how it works, but there you go. |
| 01:51 |
NekoGloop |
I cant make an entity destroy itself >.> |
| 01:52 |
_2cool4me4_ |
google |
| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
Bing |
| 01:52 |
_2cool4me4_ |
NUUU GOOGLE |
| 01:53 |
NekoGloop |
Nuuu bing |
| 01:53 |
NakedFury |
omg I just noticed all damn topics in Texture pack have the fucking word Texture pack in it! |
| 01:53 |
NakedFury |
isnt it obvious its a texture pack? |
| 01:53 |
_2cool4me4_ |
no |
| 01:53 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 01:53 |
khonkhortisan |
that mesecons map doesn't do much |
| 01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's a 2 bit 1 function apu |
| 01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
First one made |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
You probably have to go hunt for the comouter |
| 01:54 |
NekoGloop |
Computer* |
| 01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Not if you're Singleplayer |
| 01:54 |
NakedFury |
what does it do? |
| 01:54 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It adds ones |
| 01:55 |
khonkhortisan |
two buttons, 3 digit binary output |
| 01:55 |
NakedFury |
how could that help me survive? |
| 01:55 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Who the crap cares |
| 01:55 |
khonkhortisan |
how many mobs are outside my door? 1, 2, more than 2 |
| 01:55 |
NakedFury |
exactly? who the crap cares if it server no purpose at all to the game |
| 01:55 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's the first one ever made in minetest, okay? |
| 01:56 |
khonkhortisan |
so I can program minetest without lua |
| 01:56 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 01:56 |
_2cool4me4_ |
*palmface* |
| 01:56 |
NekoGloop |
You can do that with microcontrollers |
| 01:57 |
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| 01:58 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Are you actually at the ALU yet? |
| 01:58 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's at 29.4, 2.5, 132.1 |
| 02:00 |
_2cool4me4_ |
And the part marked "main bus" is actually the output bus |
| 02:03 |
* VanessaE |
looks at the ALU |
| 02:03 |
_2cool4me4_ |
cool |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
"Fancy-ish" mesecons? :P |
| 02:04 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Yep |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
they're "FANCY!!" mesecons damn it :-) |
| 02:04 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I see how it is |
| 02:04 |
_2cool4me4_ |
But there's only the 5 microcontrollers |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
looks good |
| 02:05 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Thanks |
| 02:05 |
_2cool4me4_ |
What's your clock speed from it? |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
see, I knew these nodebox-based mesecons wires would work out well |
| 02:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
huh |
| 02:06 |
NekoGloop |
The changes are still only visual |
| 02:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
but how long does it take to give a result |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
_2cool4me4_: a fraction of a second. |
| 02:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
really? |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
| 02:06 |
_2cool4me4_ |
how fast is your pc? |
| 02:07 |
NekoGloop |
Need to have working vertical mesecons ;) |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
well sometimes it's a fraction of a second, sometimes not |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
(sometimes a second or so) |
| 02:07 |
_2cool4me4_ |
yup, there are some messy wires in the back |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: already talked to jeija about it. it's possible, but non-trivial. |
| 02:07 |
_2cool4me4_ |
THe main bus is rather messy |
| 02:07 |
_2cool4me4_ |
er, output bus |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
Cant you just check for a signal on ALL the sides of the wire? |
| 02:08 |
_2cool4me4_ |
That's the problem |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
Save visualising the change for later |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
hm. I think I need to brighten up the "on" mesecons a bit. |
| 02:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I have to put the data lines quite a ways away from each other |
| 02:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
BUt this is just the beginning. |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
I'm pretty sure, that were i on my computer atm i'd be able to whip up some vertical mesecons code |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
_2cool4me4_: you only have to keep them one block apart. |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
W_W_W_W where _ is an empty space |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
(what you have now is normal) |
| 02:10 |
_2cool4me4_ |
If I can get the real workings of a computer down, I may be able to make a minetest computer! |
| 02:10 |
khonkhortisan |
W_W |
| 02:10 |
khonkhortisan |
___ |
| 02:10 |
khonkhortisan |
W_W |
| 02:10 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I'll be right back |
| 02:10 |
* NekoGloop |
pushes the red button |
| 02:10 |
NekoGloop |
Couldnt resist |
| 02:10 |
khonkhortisan |
curiosity killed the cat |
| 02:10 |
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| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
And i'm the cat :3 |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
Not the WED ONE! DON'T EVER PUSH THE WED ONE! |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
(WED -> RED in elmer fudd voice) |
| 02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
hehehehehehehehehe |
| 02:11 |
* NekoGloop |
places a finger on vanessae's forehead and pushes as if there were a button there |
| 02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
you have fingers! |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Of course i do |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
I'm a neko |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
At least i had my claws retracted :3 |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I would suggest though, to move the output lights to the left if you can, maybe just above the input switches |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Uhm... What? |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
(btw you can use wall levers for a more fancy look) |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
ER, not neko |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Uh.., not my alu lol |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
shit |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
2cool left |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
He left lol |
| 02:13 |
BackupCoder |
who left? |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
You did |
| 02:13 |
BackupCoder |
no |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
_2cool4me4_ |
| 02:13 |
BackupCoder |
crash |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
Yeah, you did :3 |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
OH |
| 02:13 |
BackupCoder |
bbs |
| 02:13 |
BackupCoder |
this is laptop #2 |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder left the room. (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 02:14 |
BackupCoder |
i am his ghost |
| 02:14 |
BackupCoder |
boo |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 02:14 |
* NekoGloop |
hides |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
G-g-g-ghost? |
| 02:14 |
khonkhortisan |
you're the fail-over |
| 02:15 |
BackupCoder |
y |
| 02:15 |
BackupCoder |
never be w/o bckups |
| 02:15 |
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| 02:15 |
sdzen |
agreed |
| 02:15 |
* khonkhortisan |
hasn't learned that yet |
| 02:15 |
sdzen |
I just did |
| 02:15 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 02:16 |
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| 02:16 |
NekoGloop |
Double accounting is a bannable offense. ;) (not really) |
| 02:16 |
OldCoder |
Back! |
| 02:16 |
OldCoder |
BackupCoder, Thank you for helping |
| 02:16 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 02:16 |
BackupCoder |
ur welcome |
| 02:17 |
khonkhortisan |
okay that's just weird |
| 02:17 |
NekoGloop |
I do that sometimes |
| 02:17 |
BackupCoder |
im glad to be f service |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
Is it normal for only the creepy songs to disappear from my youtube viewing history |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
hm, I should also remove the junction bumps from where wires band X<->Z |
| 02:20 |
NekoGloop |
No, that looks fine |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
it's inconsistent with the behavior of a normal schematic :-) |
| 02:20 |
khonkhortisan |
woohoo! on_timer doesn't use block position anymore! |
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* NekoGloop |
kicks khonkhortisan randomly |
| 02:26 |
BackupCoder |
cat is violent |
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* VanessaE |
tweaks some mesecons a bit. |
| 02:27 |
BackupCoder |
how does a cat kick neway |
| 02:27 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I'm back! |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
Neko. Neko == catboy/girl |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
_2cool4me4_: you should move the output lights to the left so they can be seen easily from where the control switches are. |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
also use wall levers instead of switches. they look cooler :-) |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
And vanessae tryed to give me credit for it when i've not even seen ot yet. |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
It* |
| 02:28 |
khonkhortisan |
is there some kind of move_node that I can use instead of add_node and remove_node? |
| 02:28 |
BackupCoder |
nekoboy or nekogirl ok |
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NekoGloop |
Meow~ :3 |
| 02:28 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Stupid tab |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
yeah yeah I got mixed up :-) |
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_2cool4me4_ |
Sorry guys |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
If he's sorry wouldnt he just leave? |
| 02:33 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, logic is not clear |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
there, slimmed down the junction bumps, and no more junction bumps on simple X/Z bends now. |
| 02:34 |
NekoGloop |
local logic = 0 |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
(if anyone wants, pull from https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons ) |
| 02:35 |
VanessaE |
or for neko, s/pull/download the ZIPball/ |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
Or i can just download it later, since i have a shitload of github pages bookmarked on my computer |
| 02:36 |
VanessaE |
ok :-) |
| 02:36 |
VanessaE |
the wires look less "fat" now without all the excess junction bumps :-) |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
But i like the fat wires |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
so comment out line 90 in mesecons/wires.lua |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 02:37 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
well, no. just change it to "nobump=4" :-) |
| 02:38 |
keegan |
is anyone good with mods? |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone else seen the enderman attack in real life video? Anyone else not jump at the end? |
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| 02:39 |
keegan |
can someone help me with my mod |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
what mod, what help? |
| 02:39 |
keegan |
ruby i made iit |
| 02:39 |
keegan |
my first mod |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
ruby? minetest mods are written only in lua |
| 02:40 |
keegan |
yes |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
or you mean the gem I guess :-) |
| 02:40 |
NekoGloop |
He probably means ruby ores |
| 02:40 |
keegan |
yes |
| 02:41 |
keegan |
but it doesnt create the image ingame |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
keegan: does your ore texture file have a transparency ? |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
("alpha channel" it's called) |
| 02:41 |
keegan |
yes |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
so it doesn't create the image - you mean the new ore doesn't spawn? |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
or it spawns but looks like stone? |
| 02:42 |
NekoGloop |
Look at the generate_ore code |
| 02:42 |
keegan |
it cant run the mod |
| 02:43 |
NekoGloop |
Ok... Did you remember to put commas where they belong? |
| 02:43 |
keegan |
lke the picture dont match up |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
ok, pastebin the errors |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
go here: pastebin.com and copy the error text from your terminal where you start minetest from, paste it on the web site, and submit it, then give us the address of the page that comes back |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
You cant copy from a cmd window |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
I think he runs linux. |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
and besides, you can load debux.txt into wordpad or so and copy&paste from that :-) |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
I dont think so |
| 02:45 |
NekoGloop |
debug.txt* |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
[08-12 09:42] <keegan> my server laptop never had win7 it was a trail so i unistall win 7 and installed ubuntu |
| 02:47 |
OldCoder |
About that... |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
He found somebody a day or two back; one of the mod writers here. That person helped him install Ubuntu. |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
But my understanding is that the install didn't work. |
| 02:48 |
OldCoder |
They may have tried again. |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
*shrug* |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_axe.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_block.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_in_ground.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_pick.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_ruby.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_sword.png" |
| 02:50 |
NekoGloop |
Wutevah |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_in_ground.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_in_ground.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_block.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
NOT HERE!!! |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_block.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
Unsupported texture format |
| 02:50 |
NekoGloop |
OH GOD NOW |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_axe.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_axe.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_pick.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_pick.png" |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_ruby.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
STOP! |
| 02:50 |
NekoGloop |
SEE WHAT YOU DID VANESSAE |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_ruby.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_sword.png" while building texture |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_sword.png" |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
Loaded texture: C:/Users/Joyce/Documents/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32/textures/base/pack/sunrisebg.png |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
opp |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
opps |
| 02:50 |
keegan |
wrong thing |
| 02:51 |
NekoGloop |
YOU TRIED TO HELP THE IMBECILE |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
keegan I said paste on pastebin.com |
| 02:51 |
keegan |
have it open and i paste t in the wrong thing |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
well too late now |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
but the issue is obvious: your textures aren't where the game can find them |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
they should be in yourmod/textures |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
so like ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/yourmod/textures/rubies_ruby.png |
| 02:52 |
keegan |
they are |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
or celeron55-minetest-blahblah/mods/minetest/yourmod/textures/rubies_ruby.png if you're using the run-in-place version |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
keegan: they probably aren't or they'd be loaded - are the filenames correct? |
| 02:53 |
keegan |
yes im pretty sure |
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| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
ok, |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
in a terminal, and ONLY IN A TERMINAL :-) type this: find ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/yourmod |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
(yourmod = rubies or whatever) |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
copy the results. |
| 02:54 |
NekoGloop |
Your modname needs to be the first thing in the name of the image |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
then ON PASTEBIN :-) paste the text |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: actually no, but that is the convention. |
| 02:55 |
NekoGloop |
Actually yes |
| 02:55 |
NekoGloop |
I've tried |
| 02:55 |
VanessaE |
so have I :-) |
| 02:55 |
NekoGloop |
At least in windows protocols |
| 02:55 |
keegan |
i still have the mod on my windows laptop |
| 02:55 |
VanessaE |
keegan: ok, upload it somewhere |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
so one of us can download it and poke around |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
sendshare |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
dropbox, ompldr, etc. |
| 02:56 |
keegan |
mediafire? |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
anywhere that doesn't make you sign up, use a capthca, etc. |
| 02:56 |
NekoGloop |
Or even github, if you dont care about people being able to change it. |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
doesn't mediafire require you to wait several seconds to download? |
| 02:57 |
keegan |
idk |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
It requires you repair your download 7-14 times before you can download |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: "repair"? |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
Yup |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
Since that's not actually possible, mediafire just makes you wait. |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
that's where _2cool uploaded his world file |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
I was able to download that in one try |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
Well i can never get so lucky |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: stop using IE :-) |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
Neverrrrrr |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
firefox + adblockplus = the web is sane again |
| 02:59 |
* NekoGloop |
kicks vanessae |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
Neverrrrrr |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:00 |
keegan |
http://www.mediafire.com/?4b2aefmg6ys4u2k |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: honest question: how much more will you put up with from IE before you give up on it? |
| 03:00 |
NekoGloop |
I will never give up |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
keegan: got it |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
(again, in one try) |
| 03:01 |
NekoGloop |
My friend has chrome. I hate having to use his computer |
| 03:01 |
keegan |
why |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
keegan: first note: tile_images = is obsolete. use tiles= |
| 03:02 |
keegan |
ok |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
besides that, this actually looks okay |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
are you sure you're copying the folder as a whole into ~/.minetest/mods/minetest ? |
| 03:04 |
keegan |
yes |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
wait, |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
you only have inventory_image for your tools |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
don't you also need wield_image for that? |
| 03:05 |
NekoGloop |
I dont use it... I dont think... |
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| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
also, |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
are |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
oops |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
AH! |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
these are NOT png images |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
they are GIMP XCF images with the wrong filename extension |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ file work/rubies/textures/rubies_in_ground.png |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
work/rubies/textures/rubies_in_ground.png: GIMP XCF image data, version 0, 16 x 16, RGB Color |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
that's your problem |
| 03:06 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
You must be using GIMP 2.8. you need to EXPORT them, not Save. |
| 03:07 |
keegan |
ok |
| 03:07 |
tripod |
yay wickedlinux |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
you must be -> it looks like you are using. |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
(2.8 is not a requirement, sorry for the bad wording) |
| 03:07 |
keegan |
ok |
| 03:09 |
keegan |
so export them? |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
just overwrite the original .png file and it will really be a PNG this time |
| 03:10 |
NekoGloop |
G'night |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
do that for all the images |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
night NekoGloop |
| 03:10 |
* VanessaE |
scritches NekoGloop's ears |
| 03:10 |
* NekoGloop |
purrs :3 |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
keegan: you're not the first to get bit by that change - it's gotta be one of the most braindead things an open source team can do. |
| 03:12 |
keegan |
how do i overwrite them? |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
just save over them with the same filename.png |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
it'll ask if you meant to overwrite |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
just say ok |
| 03:13 |
vicscandl |
ok |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
hey vicscandl. |
| 03:15 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: its been that way for the GIF format for years... i beleive the export vs save is a licencing issue... save being internal code, export being pushed thru an external lib for output. |
| 03:16 |
vicscandl |
would not supprise me to see other formats go that way, but save/export... wtf you asshats |
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| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
vicscandl: no, it's because the GIMP team wants to make GIMP to default ot saving files as if they're projects instead of images. |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
so "export" for *all* image formats. |
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| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
besides, GIF patents have long since expired. |
| 03:17 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: must be a windows thing... double checking my ver |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
no it does it on linux too, and only since 2.8 |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
and only gimp seems to have gone that route |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
it's a moronic, confusing decision that costs the artist precious time |
| 03:18 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: well i'm still pushing 2.6 on this box... |
| 03:18 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: just means i gotta update my hotkeys.. :) |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
I should be able to hit a key, "export" and it should just fucking export over what I loaded without fucking asking me questions. |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
just like "save" used to. |
| 03:19 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: wrote a phatch action set that will take all my xcf/pcx files and run out a full conversion dropping 20% in size each loop |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
none of this "export acts like the old save-as the first time you use it, and acts like the old save after that" |
| 03:20 |
vicscandl |
so i've been saving in defaul format for like 2 years now and export my needs.... |
| 03:20 |
keegan |
now my other mod that i change from someones mod to see f t works |
| 03:20 |
keegan |
t loads errors |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
paste them ON PASTEBIN :-) |
| 03:20 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: $10 says he don't know pastebin |
| 03:21 |
keegan |
anything else than pastebin |
| 03:21 |
* vicscandl |
is waiting for channel codeflood from keeg |
| 03:21 |
NakedFury |
keegan use www.pastebin.com to paste over those huge ass error files |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
he better, I told him 40 minutyes ago :-) |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
-y |
| 03:21 |
vicscandl |
s/yes/es/ |
| 03:22 |
vicscandl |
off to update gimpy to 2.8 |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
don't |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
you'll hate it. |
| 03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
you have to export everything, save saves as xcf |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
another utterly moronic change they made: |
| 03:23 |
keegan |
paste it in here |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
NO! |
| 03:23 |
keegan |
jk |
| 03:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I like the single window mode, but it breaks the close button. I want to close gimp, not the image |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
the text tool now types onto the canvas instead of a separate editor window, but there's this shitty popup that you can't get rid of over the text. |
| 03:23 |
vicscandl |
wonder if you can override the keyset in 2.8 like you can from prev versions... |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
yeah, keyboard shortcuts work fine in 2.8 |
| 03:23 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: ug, |
| 03:23 |
keegan |
http://pastebin.com/4tJ3hhqE |
| 03:24 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: i hate tghe gimpo textool already |
| 03:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I've gotten CONTENT_IGNORE before, but it's been too long, I forgot the cause |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
keegan: you are either trying to place the object in parts of the map that are not yet loaded, or you're trying to place an item but the name you used is badly formatted, is nil, etc. |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
vicscandl: it's braindead. |
| 03:25 |
keegan |
ok how do i fix it |
| 03:25 |
khonkhortisan |
is your mod in mods/lavamese/init.lua? |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
keegan: I don't know - that depends entirely on your code. This is where normal debugging techniques come into play |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
look for errors in your code |
| 03:26 |
khonkhortisan |
on_timer moving a node is much slower than a luaentity with an acceleration |
| 03:27 |
keegan |
at first minute when i first test it and it work and second time it shows the errors |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
keegan: you probably need minetest.env:get_node_or_nil(position) calls before each item you're spawning. if the function returns nil or "ignore", don't try to place. |
| 03:29 |
keegan |
ok |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
where position is the coordinates of the node you're about to place |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
(fill in the blank) |
| 03:32 |
vicscandl |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37531 |
| 03:32 |
vicscandl |
:P |
| 03:32 |
khonkhortisan |
rain: still working on it http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7771050198/in/photostream/lightbox/ |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
yet another in a long line of mods that do little more than duplicate the /teleport command. |
| 03:32 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: no, i like how you have to HARD CODE your teleport spots; thats like fucking hawt |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: what is this? |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
new rain mod? |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
yes, still haven't gotten it to fall right |
| 03:33 |
vicscandl |
from forum: "PS: Dont add The Mod To Your Mods Folder Intel Your Coordinates are set /,\" |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: how did you get around the entity limit issue? |
| 03:33 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm trying a node with on_timer |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
ahh |
| 03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
bad_command's teleporter mod has you type it into the teleporter like a sign |
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| 03:34 |
vicscandl |
khonkhortisan: this is codemockery... |
| 03:35 |
khonkhortisan |
on_timer only has a resolution of seconds |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
why not use on_globalstep or whatever it was called? |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
that has a resolution of 0.05s |
| 03:36 |
keegan |
so you want to look at my other mod |
| 03:36 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm using that for generating the rain, I'll try that now |
| 03:37 |
keegan |
VanessaE you want to look at my other mod? |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
I'll have to pass on that, keegam |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
keegan * |
| 03:37 |
keegan |
ok |
| 03:38 |
keegan |
you lke the rubies? |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
I'm getting kinda tired, so I'm not in a good state of mind to do any real coding or debugging |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
I didn't try the mod, just examined the files. Nice idea, but are you sure someone else hasn't already done a mod like this? |
| 03:38 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE: Do some unreal coding or debugging. |
| 03:38 |
* vicscandl |
passes VanessaE a large plate of bacon... |
| 03:38 |
keegan |
i dont think anyone did this mod |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
vicscandl: too late, I just ate meatlovers pizza :-) |
| 03:39 |
vicscandl |
keegan: what mod is that? |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
keegan: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=527 |
| 03:39 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: i made a bbq chicken pizza today. :) |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
contains rubies, ruby blocks, ruby tools |
| 03:39 |
vicscandl |
oooooooooooooooo lemme go look now! |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
it's an old mod, may not be any good anymore, but there you go. |
| 03:40 |
keegan |
shoot shouldve look first |
| 03:40 |
keegan |
:( |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
keegan: it's ok, just change your mod to make some other kind of gem/ore/etc/ |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
there's always room for another new ore, but forget about making tools |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
we have enough variants of picks/swords/etc. |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
make something entirely new |
| 03:41 |
keegan |
last edited 2-1-12 |
| 03:41 |
Basstard` |
2112 |
| 03:41 |
vicscandl |
mmmmmmm rush |
| 03:41 |
khonkhortisan |
make a car that is lethal when you crash |
| 03:41 |
* VanessaE |
hums Tom Sawyer |
| 03:41 |
vicscandl |
going to the LA show in nov. have seats in front of the soundboard! woot! |
| 03:41 |
keegan |
what mod should i do? |
| 03:42 |
khonkhortisan |
don't go deaf |
| 03:42 |
Basstard` |
Do a Rush mod. |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
keegan: try to think of something uniqur |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
unique* |
| 03:42 |
vicscandl |
i'm with Basstard`, total rush mod |
| 03:42 |
NakedFury |
ill dig it |
| 03:43 |
keegan |
a gameboy |
| 03:45 |
Basstard` |
Periodic table. |
| 03:46 |
keegan |
or a compass |
| 03:47 |
Basstard` |
You'll probably do a cumpass instead. |
| 03:48 |
keegan |
vicscandl testing my 0.3.1 server |
| 03:48 |
keegan |
nm my 0.4.1 |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
keegan: I have to say this, and please don't take it wrong - 0.3.1 is dead. |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
don't use it |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 03:48 |
keegan |
theres some people |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
0.3.1 is considered obsolete by the author and is a dead project. |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
all development happens in 0.4.x only |
| 03:49 |
Basstard` |
All development happens tomorrow. |
| 03:49 |
keegan |
i know what to make a fridge |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
good idea |
| 03:50 |
keegan |
is there a fridge mod if not itMINE |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
I am not aware of such |
| 03:50 |
keegan |
yay |
| 03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
you'll have to depend on some kind of extra food mod |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
but you would need to create foods to put into it |
| 03:50 |
keegan |
yea |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
something that will "spoil" if just stored unrefridgerated |
| 03:51 |
khonkhortisan |
moldy stuff can remove health |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
(i.e. if stored in a chest or held in inventory more than a few game days) |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: unless it's *just* the right kind of mold, then it can improve health :-) |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
(read: penicillin) |
| 03:52 |
keegan |
gonna do a microwave too |
| 03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
It can have a random chance of moulding a different way |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
a microwave might be kinda pointless honestky |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
honestly* |
| 03:52 |
keegan |
yea |
| 03:52 |
khonkhortisan |
like a tree compared to an apple tree, a bad moldy apple compared to a good moldy apple |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
we already have a furnace, and at least an electric furnace coming soon |
| 03:53 |
keegan |
gas |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury still needs to take RealBadAngel's wires code and apply it to my pipeworks so he can make his natural gas mod |
| 03:53 |
* VanessaE |
pokes at NakedFury |
| 03:54 |
* VanessaE |
pokes at RealBadAngel |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
RBA's wire placement algorithm + Nakedfury's coding ideas + sfan5's oil mod + my pipeworks + my vessels = natural gas mod :-) |
| 03:54 |
* Basstard` |
pokes VanessaE's natural gas |
| 03:55 |
keegan |
mini flags |
| 03:55 |
* VanessaE |
farts in Basstard`'s general direction. |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
son of a windowasher. |
| 03:55 |
khonkhortisan |
the hampster smells like elderberries |
| 03:55 |
vicscandl |
aw fuck, here comes the montyfuness! |
| 03:55 |
keegan |
flags and flag posts |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: NONONO! his mother is a hamster and his father smells of elderberries |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
keegan: already been done |
| 03:56 |
keegan |
damn |
| 03:56 |
vicscandl |
do we *dare* discuss swallow flight speeds? |
| 03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
I knew that |
| 03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
are they tied together? |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
vicscandl: laden or unladen? |
| 03:56 |
* vicscandl |
rummages around for his damed coconuts..... |
| 03:56 |
khonkhortisan |
african or european? |
| 03:56 |
vicscandl |
.... but if the swallow was *tied* to the coconut.... |
| 03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
and coconuts are tropical. |
| 03:57 |
vicscandl |
keegan: hook me up with some interact on your server? |
| 03:57 |
keegan |
palm trees!! with cocnuts |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
keegan: already been done. |
| 03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
yes!!! |
| 03:57 |
khonkhortisan |
aw |
| 03:57 |
keegan |
damn' |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
palm trees have anyway |
| 03:57 |
keegan |
slow down people |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
(I don't think they bear coconuts) |
| 03:58 |
vicscandl |
i'm so going to make a coconut mod that sounds like a horse when you walk with a split one. |
| 03:58 |
sdzen |
haha |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
how do you split one? |
| 03:58 |
sdzen |
please only if you have some killer rabbits |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
craft it? |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: step one, get a sledgehammer. step 2, forget splitting it, just smash the fucking thing :-) |
| 03:58 |
khonkhortisan |
you need two halves |
| 03:58 |
vicscandl |
sdzen: you think i would leave ANYTHING out? |
| 03:59 |
khonkhortisan |
monty python mod +1 |
| 03:59 |
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| 03:59 |
Basstard` |
Do we allow a swallow to wallow? |
| 03:59 |
keegan |
vicscandl granted |
| 04:00 |
keegan |
a desk!! |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
keegan: already been done. |
| 04:00 |
keegan |
damn! |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
(see Homedecor :-) ) |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
(and also 3dforniture) |
| 04:01 |
vicscandl |
keegan: hahahha i forgot my password (was random anyway) can you purge my account |
| 04:02 |
keegan |
how do i do that |
| 04:02 |
khonkhortisan |
delete |
| 04:02 |
vicscandl |
keegan: delete me from the player directory |
| 04:02 |
keegan |
ok |
| 04:02 |
keegan |
did |
| 04:03 |
vicscandl |
dang, nope |
| 04:03 |
keegan |
now |
| 04:03 |
vicscandl |
bummer, oh well, i should be writing code anyways.. |
| 04:03 |
keegan |
no it should work |
| 04:04 |
vicscandl |
keegan: nopoe, invalid pass |
| 04:04 |
vicscandl |
:) |
| 04:04 |
vicscandl |
i fubared it real good! |
| 04:04 |
keegan |
what delete everything of yours |
| 04:05 |
vicscandl |
keegan: nm, thanks anyways |
| 04:06 |
keegan |
ok i thinking for mods anyway' |
| 04:06 |
keegan |
chocolate chip cookies |
| 04:07 |
keegan |
candle |
| 04:07 |
keegan |
cash register |
| 04:08 |
vicscandl |
keegan: grant me (asdf) interact? |
| 04:08 |
keegan |
ok |
| 04:08 |
vicscandl |
thx |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
candle: dunno, but there are already a few torch mods |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
chocolate chip cookes: nice idea. |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
cash register: already been done, to a degree. |
| 04:09 |
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| 04:15 |
keegan |
got to go to bed |
| 04:15 |
keegan |
good night |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 04:16 |
keegan |
ill think of mods |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
search the forums too |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
you'll be surpised what does and doesn't exist there |
| 04:18 |
Basstard` |
Surpissed. |
| 04:21 |
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| 04:40 |
vicscandl |
hrm... on keeg's server, i can't get three furnaces to run at the same time... |
| 04:40 |
vicscandl |
{{ note, first time on someone other than my own servers }} |
| 04:42 |
OldCoder |
vicscandl, You PM'd me the other day IIRC. I'll be awake about 15 minutes now if there's any open business. |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I grow tired these days at this time of the day. It is more difficult to communicate in a linear manner. |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it's oka |
| 04:43 |
vicscandl |
OldCoder: outside of some ircbashing of newbs, not much today... sunday is for housechores for me |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
oy, I must be getting tired |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
my typing is going to hell :-/ |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, is your typing usually perfect? |
| 04:44 |
vicscandl |
i've got to get back to work tomorrow; business partner comes back from holiday. |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
vicscandl, housechores are Zen |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
no, but it ain't usually this bad :-) |
| 04:44 |
vicscandl |
OldCoder: manual real-space hacking... |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, It will happen more in the coming years. But I don't see that many errors presently. |
| 04:44 |
OldCoder |
vicscandl, Hmm |
| 04:45 |
vicscandl |
the older i get, the more typonese creeps in on me. |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
vicscandl, Reversal of entropy |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: that's because I spend half as much time correcting my typos as actually typing |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
vicscandl, that goes into the cool phrases file |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
(that's part of why I'm sometimes slow to answer) |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, A sensible thing to do |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
typonese |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, your typing is good enough probably. So you have... |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
*drum roll* |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
typochrondria |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
Ba-DUM! |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
|
| 04:46 |
VanessaE |
so you're saying I'm a typochondriac? :-) |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 04:46 |
* OldCoder |
loves words |
| 04:47 |
VanessaE |
my gravestone will read, when I die, "See, I told you can't type." |
| 04:47 |
OldCoder |
Fair nuff |
| 04:49 |
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| 04:49 |
* VanessaE |
waits patiently for Jeija to show up |
| 04:49 |
vicscandl |
apparently this laptop does not have its battery status registerd in the status... no battery low warning on that one |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
(should be along just about any time now) |
| 04:49 |
vicscandl |
fux |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
vic: no on-battery charge indicator? |
| 04:56 |
tripod |
what bold things you be coding? |
| 04:56 |
tripod |
kk |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
tripod, Tweets |
| 04:57 |
tripod |
oh |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
Twits |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
Whatever those things are called |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
:-) |
| 04:57 |
tripod |
the bird |
| 04:57 |
tripod |
or that stupid 120 character restrict social blogging tool |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
Yes, the little bird who loves to Flit and Twit |
| 04:57 |
tripod |
kk |
| 04:57 |
BoldCoder |
140 actually; all the room in the world |
| 04:58 |
tripod |
oh my mistake |
| 04:58 |
tripod |
20 characters to write 20 characters. |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
so you use those 140 chars to point to a multi-page blog post :-) |
| 04:59 |
BoldCoder |
But of course |
| 04:59 |
* BoldCoder |
is all modern 'n' stuff |
| 05:00 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: ususally it tells me.. for some reason it did not. |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
odd |
| 05:01 |
vicscandl |
perhaps actually playing minetest on someone else's server had me bedazzled |
| 05:01 |
vicscandl |
perhaps its the beer |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
one of my other friends used to say, "I hate computers." |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
and she was a geek |
| 05:01 |
vicscandl |
perhaps its my california-alternate-medication |
| 05:01 |
vicscandl |
VanessaE: i mutter that daily, shessh... |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
bahaha |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
zzz |
| 05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
a question: |
| 05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) |
| 05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have a tool here |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
there he is! |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: /msg |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
you have a file waiting. |
| 05:26 |
RealBadAngel |
how to access its "wear" variable? |
| 05:27 |
RealBadAngel |
@VanessaE: thx :) |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
- get_wear(): returns tool wear (0-65535), 0 for non-tools |
| 05:27 |
RealBadAngel |
that works |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
I presume the tool ID goes inside the parens |
| 05:27 |
RealBadAngel |
add_wear(value) doesnt work |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
| 05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
im tryin to accces that variable directly |
| 05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
api says so: |
| 05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
eg. {name="default:pick_wood", count=1, wear=21323, metadata=""} |
| 05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
^ a wooden pick about 1/3 weared out |
| 05:28 |
RealBadAngel |
so tryin set_float, pointing it |
| 05:29 |
RealBadAngel |
nothing works |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
maybe it needs a straight integer? |
| 05:29 |
RealBadAngel |
tried set_float("wear",value) |
| 05:30 |
RealBadAngel |
is there set_int or something? |
| 05:30 |
vicscandl |
RealBadAngel: yes |
| 05:30 |
vicscandl |
RealBadAngel: yes, set_int/get_int exists |
| 05:30 |
vicscandl |
for some reason, people seem to use floats |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
srcstack.set_int("wear",10000) |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
|
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
tried that |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
no go |
| 05:33 |
RealBadAngel |
checkin first of course if it is a tool |
| 05:34 |
RealBadAngel |
get_wear() returns correct value |
| 05:35 |
khonkhortisan |
someone asked me to join their server and gave me their lan ip :) |
| 05:35 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 05:35 |
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| 05:39 |
RealBadAngel |
it keep sayin that "wear" filed doesnt exist at all |
| 05:40 |
RealBadAngel |
*field |
| 05:43 |
RealBadAngel |
eg. {name="default:pick_wood", count=1, wear=21323, metadata=""} |
| 05:43 |
RealBadAngel |
damn, how to index that field??? |
| 05:54 |
RealBadAngel |
i think i found solution |
| 05:54 |
RealBadAngel |
srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
temp=srcstack:to_table() |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
print (temp["wear"]) |
| 05:55 |
RealBadAngel |
returns correct wear value |
| 05:56 |
BoldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Didn't hear back from you. But you're welcome to go through your music this week. |
| 05:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i will, yesterday i just forgot bout it because of coding :) |
| 05:57 |
BoldCoder |
Oh I know the feeling |
| 05:57 |
RealBadAngel |
woke up today and finally found a solution i think |
| 05:57 |
RealBadAngel |
now just set the vaule in table |
| 05:58 |
RealBadAngel |
rewrite srcstack from_table |
| 05:58 |
RealBadAngel |
and should work like a charm |
| 05:58 |
RealBadAngel |
but as far as i know lua behaviour it gonna kick me in the ass propably lol |
| 06:05 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah it did |
| 06:05 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehehe |
| 06:05 |
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| 06:09 |
RealBadAngel |
damn, lua is pain in the ass, really :) |
| 06:09 |
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| 06:11 |
jin_xi |
i kinda like lua ;) |
| 06:12 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 06:12 |
RealBadAngel |
tell me |
| 06:12 |
jin_xi |
but then i'm a lisp man at heart |
| 06:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have table in temp |
| 06:12 |
RealBadAngel |
how to write it back to srcstack ? |
| 06:13 |
jin_xi |
that table from above? |
| 06:13 |
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| 06:13 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 06:13 |
RealBadAngel |
<RealBadAngel> srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) |
| 06:13 |
RealBadAngel |
<RealBadAngel> temp=srcstack:to_table() |
| 06:14 |
RealBadAngel |
i can modify values inside temp |
| 06:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and would like to do reverse now |
| 06:14 |
jin_xi |
there is from_table, right? but its just a guess |
| 06:14 |
RealBadAngel |
there is |
| 06:14 |
RealBadAngel |
question is how the fuck it works... |
| 06:15 |
RealBadAngel |
cannot find any example |
| 06:15 |
jin_xi |
meta:from_table({ srcstack = temp }) or so? |
| 06:15 |
jin_xi |
idk |
| 06:15 |
RealBadAngel |
lets try |
| 06:16 |
Calinou |
misa pack was updated for MC :o |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
guess you have to re-port :-) |
| 06:17 |
Calinou |
none of the "basic" blocks have been changed though... |
| 06:17 |
BoldCoder |
Zzz |
| 06:17 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 06:17 |
RealBadAngel |
crashes the game nicely ;) |
| 06:18 |
jin_xi |
cool |
| 06:18 |
Calinou |
what the fu- |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
you're gonna have a jolly load of fun texturing mesecons by the time Jeija and I are through with it :D |
| 06:18 |
Calinou |
I am downloading at 277kb/sec |
| 06:18 |
RealBadAngel |
calinou, maybe you know? |
| 06:18 |
Calinou |
:D |
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| 06:20 |
jin_xi |
did you try inv:set_stack("src", 1, temp) ? |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: that's quite some bandnarrowth there ;-) |
| 06:26 |
RealBadAngel |
@jin_xi: woooooohooo |
| 06:26 |
RealBadAngel |
youre great man |
| 06:27 |
RealBadAngel |
worked finally :) |
| 06:27 |
jin_xi |
example found via ack (its like grep) 'ack srcstack' |
| 06:27 |
jin_xi |
in minetest folder |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
but its not logical |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
when used to_table |
| 06:28 |
RealBadAngel |
should be able to use from_table |
| 06:28 |
jin_xi |
idk, maybe we're both thinking something wrong of that from/to table stuff ;) |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
new steel block texture in misa's pack... changed it in the minetest version |
| 06:29 |
RealBadAngel |
propably. lua is full of suprises |
| 06:29 |
jin_xi |
those are minetest defined functions |
| 06:30 |
jin_xi |
i thought so too at first, but after reading pil i changed assumptions |
| 06:30 |
jin_xi |
did not have to read it all |
| 06:30 |
RealBadAngel |
hmm maybe youre right |
| 06:31 |
jin_xi |
just about tables, indexing functions and reverse tables idiom was verrry good to know |
| 06:31 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37543#p37543 |
| 06:31 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, O_o |
| 06:31 |
Calinou |
I play OA too :D |
| 06:31 |
RealBadAngel |
anyway this single line solved many many things for me |
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RealBadAngel |
thx for finding it |
| 06:31 |
jin_xi |
oops, i mean indexing, functions nod indexing functions ;) |
| 06:31 |
jin_xi |
glad to help |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: I'm just not a hardcore gamer :-) |
| 06:32 |
RealBadAngel |
good that i left the name srcstack and havent changed it to anythig lol |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
(ironic considering my PC's rather well-outfitted for the purpose) |
| 06:34 |
RealBadAngel |
now with this single line solution im able to repair tools using power |
| 06:34 |
RealBadAngel |
and load/unload portable batteries |
| 06:34 |
jin_xi |
cool |
| 06:35 |
RealBadAngel |
and with portable batteries i can make tools that use power |
| 06:39 |
RealBadAngel |
wonder anyway why "wear" is 16 bits |
| 06:39 |
RealBadAngel |
0, non tool, 1 not used, 65535 will break on next use |
| 06:40 |
RealBadAngel |
for every tool |
| 06:40 |
jin_xi |
no idea |
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RealSexyDevil |
010 |
| 06:41 |
RealBadAngel |
strange solution, shall be rather like straight numeber of possible uses |
| 06:41 |
RealSexyDevil |
RealBadAngel: I concur! |
| 06:42 |
Calinou |
RealSexyDevil, yeah, minecraft's example of doing things is surely good |
| 06:43 |
RealSexyDevil |
~obit Calinou |
| 06:43 |
RealSexyDevil |
DAMNIT |
| 06:43 |
Calinou |
you know 16-bit wear allows more stuff? such as "dynamically" changing the damage breaking a block does? |
| 06:43 |
Calinou |
~stfu RealSexyDevil |
| 06:43 |
RealSexyDevil |
~infect Calinou |
| 06:43 |
Calinou |
~sex RealSexyDevil |
| 06:43 |
RealSexyDevil |
~family Calinou |
| 06:43 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm |
| 06:43 |
Calinou |
~shesaid |
| 06:43 |
tripod |
Calinou: need more quinbot |
| 06:44 |
RealBadAngel |
whatever, most important is i can now control it :) |
| 06:44 |
tripod |
RealBadAngel: congrats! |
| 06:44 |
tripod |
Calinou: lets minetest |
| 06:45 |
tripod |
i have a 0.3X server |
| 06:45 |
tripod |
will my shiz go straight over if im hosting 0.4 |
| 06:45 |
Calinou |
it will convert, yes |
| 06:45 |
Calinou |
backup your map |
| 06:45 |
RealBadAngel |
btw calinou: i played lately with one nasty stuff |
| 06:45 |
RealBadAngel |
try to loop one abm, dont let it end once its called |
| 06:46 |
RealBadAngel |
you can have then own thread in game |
| 06:47 |
RealBadAngel |
with no callbacks needed |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
to make it workin nice, you shall call other abms manually |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
but could be possible |
| 06:50 |
RealBadAngel |
inside such thread anythin can be done |
| 06:51 |
Calinou |
cool story bro |
| 06:51 |
RealBadAngel |
example: |
| 06:52 |
RealBadAngel |
make emulation of a processor |
| 06:52 |
RealBadAngel |
write OS for it |
| 06:52 |
RealBadAngel |
and make terminal window |
| 06:52 |
jin_xi |
then play nethack |
| 06:53 |
RealBadAngel |
it dont have to be speedy gonzales |
| 06:53 |
RealBadAngel |
but can make a computer inside of a computer game |
| 06:54 |
RealBadAngel |
and that would be cool :) |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
make a node look like a terminal |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
click on it to actually run command line |
| 06:55 |
RealBadAngel |
and run programs |
| 06:57 |
RealBadAngel |
and when theyre runnin you can still play the game |
| 07:00 |
RealBadAngel |
with interfaces to mesecons it could control logic outside |
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RealBadAngel |
way more powerfull than the microcontroller |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:33 |
jin_xi |
morning adam |
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| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
its actually funny, for some1 its mornin, some are sleepin |
| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
here its 1pm |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
1pm |
| 11:17 |
RealBadAngel |
@jin_xi: http://realbadangel.pl/batterybox.png |
| 11:17 |
RealBadAngel |
thanks to your help |
| 11:17 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 11:18 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, do you think this mod is usefull http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2777 ? |
| 11:19 |
RealBadAngel |
what do you mean by "old blocks"? |
| 11:19 |
PilzAdam |
unkown blocks |
| 11:19 |
RealBadAngel |
then yes, usefull |
| 11:20 |
RealBadAngel |
but such thing should be built-in |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
what r u doin with "old" ones? |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
replacin them with air? |
| 11:21 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 11:21 |
PilzAdam |
and entities despawn |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
some shall implement time-to-live for entities lyin around |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
like several minutes and gone |
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RealBadAngel |
when started with it, you can do that |
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| 11:41 |
tripod |
so |
| 11:41 |
tripod |
why arnt we all playing mc |
| 11:41 |
tripod |
? |
| 11:41 |
tripod |
instead of mt |
| 11:41 |
tripod |
i dont know which is better |
| 11:41 |
tripod |
(only play minetest) |
| 11:43 |
PilzAdam |
mt is free |
| 11:43 |
PilzAdam |
mt has a good modding api |
| 11:43 |
jin_xi |
RealBadAngel: looks great |
| 11:45 |
tripod |
does minetest have carts |
| 11:45 |
tripod |
or w/e |
| 11:45 |
tripod |
that looks cool RealBadAngel |
| 11:45 |
PilzAdam |
i made cart mod |
| 11:45 |
tripod |
so will also this stay as mods, or eventually some stuff go into mt itself? |
| 11:45 |
tripod |
i should download a tonne of mods |
| 11:46 |
PilzAdam |
there is no "mt itself" |
| 11:46 |
PilzAdam |
MT is just the engine |
| 11:46 |
tripod |
oh okay |
| 11:46 |
PilzAdam |
everything else are mods |
| 11:46 |
tripod |
oh okay |
| 11:46 |
PilzAdam |
even the default game consists of mods |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
i played mc for almost a year |
| 11:46 |
tripod |
i need to grab some mods for my server |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
came here so i can play and code too |
| 11:47 |
tripod |
well, does minecraft have anything better than mt |
| 11:47 |
tripod |
apart from userbase |
| 11:47 |
RealBadAngel |
it does, mt is like mc 1 or 1,5 year ago |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
but it gets better way faster as mc did |
| 11:48 |
PilzAdam |
in 1 year mt wil be better than mc |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
oh okay |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
really |
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tripod |
ive been following for awhile |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
looks awesome |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
as well as the building restrictions in MC |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
given a little more time |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
is that due to JAVA |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
because mt is C |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
i forget. |
| 11:48 |
tripod |
english is poor :( |
| 11:48 |
RealBadAngel |
mc will be way better than mc |
| 11:49 |
PilzAdam |
? |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
mt i mean |
| 11:49 |
PilzAdam |
so wich will be better? |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
mt |
| 11:49 |
PilzAdam |
right answer |
| 11:49 |
RealBadAngel |
for me it already is |
| 11:49 |
tripod |
um |
| 11:50 |
tripod |
could someone just tell me the names of some decent mods for MT |
| 11:50 |
tripod |
that i can chuck on my server |
| 11:50 |
jin_xi |
for me modding is more fun than playing ;) |
| 11:50 |
PilzAdam |
jin_xi, +1 |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i do like both |
| 11:50 |
PilzAdam |
tripod, carts, beds, mesecons, more ores |
| 11:50 |
jin_xi |
and i like this early stage explorative mod development style |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
when combined? thats coool |
| 11:51 |
PilzAdam |
tripod, flowers, growing |
| 11:51 |
RealBadAngel |
technic too ;) |
| 11:51 |
tripod |
i saw that link |
| 11:51 |
tripod |
in your sig |
| 11:51 |
* jin_xi |
always disables signatures |
| 11:52 |
tripod |
thanks guys. |
| 11:52 |
tripod |
Calinou: NOU |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
CALI |
| 11:52 |
RealBadAngel |
it actually started to work. i mean my mod |
| 11:52 |
tripod |
I HAZ CANDY |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
MT is 1.75 year old btw |
| 11:52 |
Calinou |
MC 3 years old |
| 11:52 |
tripod |
i played infi |
| 11:52 |
jin_xi |
what is that in ingame years? |
| 11:52 |
tripod |
but i know nothing |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
jin_xi, real life years <_< |
| 11:53 |
tripod |
of mt/mc |
| 11:53 |
tripod |
Calinou: atomic time bitch |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
NO U |
| 11:53 |
Calinou |
LEAP YEARS |
| 11:53 |
jin_xi |
light years ahead... |
| 11:53 |
RealBadAngel |
one thing mt has that mc can sit and cry |
| 11:53 |
RealBadAngel |
modding API |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
modding minecraft is pain in the ass |
| 11:54 |
OldCoder |
Oh? MT is easier than MC ? |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
theres no api for mc |
| 11:55 |
PilzAdam |
jin_xi, its 0 in in-game years if you hold on the time |
| 11:55 |
RealBadAngel |
each game update modders have to almost rewrite mods |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
so it ends like for complex mod it is released like a month or more after game updates |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
and they update game again |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
even before modder was ready for previous one |
| 11:56 |
RealBadAngel |
sick^2 |
| 11:56 |
Calinou |
minetest isn't complete at all, though |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
^ that's the only thing that prevents MT from being popular |
| 11:57 |
RealBadAngel |
and minecraft is? |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
no mobs, no 3D players, sound is basic, lacks game elements such as sprinting/etc |
| 11:57 |
RealBadAngel |
laggy buggy as hell |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
minecraft is extremely popular because it's mature |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
it's not laggy; get a real fucking computer |
| 11:57 |
RealBadAngel |
it IS |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
it's faster than MT on fast computers |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
it does use a lot of bandwidth and /lags/ but isn't /slow/ as in performance |
| 11:58 |
Calinou |
also it works on OS X out of the box |
| 11:58 |
RealBadAngel |
so what |
| 11:58 |
RealBadAngel |
to play it on normal pc i had to buy more memory |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
to configure it i fought for weeks |
| 11:59 |
Calinou |
2GB runs MC playably; 90% of computers sold after 2009 have that amount of RAM |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
mojang's folks are not able to write optimizn stuff like OptiFine |
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Calinou |
mojang doesn't know the word "workaround" unfortunately |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
their game runs at 20TPS which is overkill |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
it'd work if it ran at 10TPS, with 50% reduced CPU usage |
| 12:00 |
RealBadAngel |
they wanted to buy optifine but offered to few |
| 12:00 |
RealBadAngel |
and author said fuck off |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
lol I got +q'd on #debian |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
* themill points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
* Calinou is banned from #debian-offtopic |
| 12:00 |
Calinou |
<Calinou> try harder |
| 12:01 |
Calinou |
then themill +q'd me |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
notch is no longer involved in minecraft |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
jeb is main coder now |
| 12:01 |
Calinou |
yeah, and dinnerbone |
| 12:02 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, dinnerbone is makin api |
| 12:02 |
Calinou |
shit API yeah |
| 12:02 |
RealBadAngel |
and jeb is actually adding new kind of stairs and slabs to the game |
| 12:02 |
Calinou |
"NOW YOU CAN CREATE HAY BALES§§§" |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
he already did; still no nether brick slabs though :( |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
and couloured wood |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
awesome |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
also I beat him to panels (he didn't add panels to the game yet) |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
there is colored wood in moreblocks; jungle trees make jungle planks, sticks and fences |
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* Calinou |
still wants colored pressure plates, fences, sticks |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
that modders should do |
| 12:03 |
RealBadAngel |
not game developers lol |
| 12:03 |
Calinou |
non-default: "not much people use it" |
| 12:04 |
Calinou |
that's the problem of non-default settings/stuff |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
wait two months and u will get new stairs ingame |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
fuck it |
| 12:04 |
Calinou |
new stairs have been added already |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
talkin bout mc all the time |
| 12:04 |
Calinou |
yes in MC, colored wood stairs/slabs |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
nvm. mt is open source. i can code. i can play |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
fuck mc |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
period |
| 12:06 |
OldCoder |
Not exactly the FOSS manifest but some of the same principles apply |
| 12:06 |
OldCoder |
FOSS is Freedom |
| 12:06 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 12:06 |
tripod |
should I grab 0.4.1 |
| 12:06 |
tripod |
or the git\ |
| 12:07 |
tripod |
or delta-git |
| 12:07 |
tripod |
so many choice! |
| 12:07 |
RealBadAngel |
0.4.2 rc1 |
| 12:08 |
tripod |
will have to manually compile it |
| 12:08 |
tripod |
AUR/arch doesnt have 4.2 |
| 12:08 |
tripod |
brb |
| 12:08 |
RealBadAngel |
wait a sec |
| 12:08 |
tripod |
mk |
| 12:08 |
RealBadAngel |
http://c55.me/blog/?p=1274 |
| 12:09 |
RealBadAngel |
here u have the link |
| 12:09 |
tripod |
ty |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
and Calinou: one thing |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
naked mc is still shit |
| 12:11 |
RealBadAngel |
modders make it great |
| 12:15 |
vicscandl |
meh, !<3 work |
| 12:16 |
vicscandl |
not today at least... |
| 12:18 |
OldCoder |
!<3 is valid? |
| 12:18 |
* OldCoder |
is learning the intricacies of modern emoticons |
| 12:18 |
OldCoder |
In my day we had :-) and :-( |
| 12:18 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 12:18 |
RealBadAngel |
i also havent quite understood that one |
| 12:18 |
* Calinou |
facepalms |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
#debian op quiets me |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
10 minutes later bans me for "you should know better" |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
this is the second time I get banned for this reason |
| 12:19 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
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* OldCoder |
prefers specific disputes |
| 12:19 |
vicscandl |
OldCoder: i not(<3) work is how it *should* have read.. :) |
| 12:19 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 12:20 |
OldCoder |
But !<3 is understandable. It simply opens an interesting door. What of log(<3) or D:**10 ? |
| 12:20 |
vicscandl |
Calinou: it's ok, you can troliolio here.... |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
<OldCoder> FOSS is Freedom |
| 12:21 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 12:21 |
OldCoder |
Ghostshell is conflicted about that |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
no, for debian, FOSS is "fucking ostensible stripes of shadows" |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
:} |
| 12:22 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 12:22 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
you don't say "all right", you should say "alright" |
| 12:22 |
* OldCoder |
does not use Debian Ubuntu MINT Because he prefers his own |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
inb4 harshlinux |
| 12:22 |
OldCoder |
Harshlinux? |
| 12:22 |
* OldCoder |
googles |
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OldCoder |
I see no Harshlinux |
| 12:23 |
vicscandl |
archlinux |
| 12:23 |
Calinou |
yeah :} |
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NekoGloop |
Hello again, people of #minetest! |
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PilzAdam |
Hi NekoGloop |
| 12:29 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
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OldCoder |
Meow |
| 12:31 |
NekoGloop |
Mrowr! |
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NekoGloop |
So how is everyone today? |
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RealBadAngel |
@calinou: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU |
| 12:51 |
RealBadAngel |
partially answer why mt is great. |
| 12:53 |
RealBadAngel |
everythin other goes same way. mc too |
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NekoGloop |
What's that? |
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PilzAdam |
Quake |
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tripod |
RealBadAngel: good vid |
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tripod |
esp the speedrun at the end |
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Calinou |
<PilzAdam> Quake |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
what does this have to do with quake? |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
there is no strafejumping in MT/MC |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
*cries* |
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RealBadAngel |
its the ways games goin today |
| 13:05 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, RealBadAngel postet a link to a Quake vid |
| 13:05 |
tripod |
RealBadAngel: yup. |
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PilzAdam |
and NekoGloop asked what this is |
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RealBadAngel |
i liked DLC's |
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RealBadAngel |
if you havent noticed |
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RealBadAngel |
like "Purple weapons pack" |
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RealBadAngel |
rotfl |
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Calinou |
it's not a DLC, it's a mod |
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RealBadAngel |
"purple weapons skins" exactly |
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thexyz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37570#p37570 |
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Cornernote |
Hey |
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PilzAdam |
Hi |
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Cornernote |
New mesecon node box wire is awesome |
| 13:22 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
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Cornernote |
Just looking how many new mods there are since I joined minetest... So amazing |
| 13:24 |
Cornernote |
Used my first micro controller today to replace some old Xor gates |
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Cornernote |
Hey plizadam.. With the item drop mod, if u don't pick stuff up does it make the world slower |
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PilzAdam |
is that a question? |
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Cornernote |
I Thought maybe they could have a timer that deletes them after 30 seconds... U reckon there is any point? |
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tripod |
tab completition is win too btw |
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PilzAdam |
i can implement it |
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Cornernote |
If it makes it faster would be good |
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Cornernote |
Do u use github? |
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PilzAdam |
nope |
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Cornernote |
I like reading code on iPad.. Github makes it easy |
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JamieWill |
Yeah I have added to the teleporters reloaded mod by adding a /sethome1 and /sethome2 |
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JamieWill |
same with the mine and town commands |
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tripod |
Calinou: love your post |
| 14:01 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 14:05 |
tripod |
fug u |
| 14:17 |
OldCoder |
Back |
| 14:18 |
OldCoder |
GitHub is useful |
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PilzAdam |
Ive created a mod that adds simple aliases for many mods: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2778 |
| 14:18 |
PilzAdam |
Tell me if you want me to add more mods |
| 14:20 |
Calinou |
moreblocks has some aliases for default mod btw :p |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, but my mod supports more mods than moreblocks |
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Calinou |
yeah |
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PilzAdam |
anyone knows a good farming mod? |
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Calinou |
marktraceur had an updated version of the farming mod; don't remember where it is |
| 14:52 |
Calinou |
google? |
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Calinou |
(it's on gitorious) |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, dont find it |
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PilzAdam |
the only one i know is http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2619 |
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PilzAdam |
but its not finished |
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Calinou |
:/ |
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PilzAdam |
ill make my own |
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* PilzAdam |
goes coding |
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Calinou |
lol yeah |
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keegan |
hello |
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Calinou |
hi |
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keegan |
who have the money mod?? |
| 15:08 |
Calinou |
not me |
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Calinou |
gtg bye |
| 15:09 |
keegan |
bye |
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keegan |
who os tje owner of money mod?? |
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keegan |
there is a bug with money mod |
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PilzAdam |
when i call a method of ItemStack that changes something on the Itemstack it has no effect |
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PilzAdam |
Only the inventory methods work |
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NekoGloop |
If I make a challenge map, how many people would play? |
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PilzAdam |
If its good i will play it |
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NekoGloop |
It'll be part of my MESEcons paradise, since it'll use a lot of mesecon puzzles within it |
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NekoGloop |
Er... scratch that |
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iqualfragile |
uhm… are there ops in this cannel? because i have not seen any |
| 16:03 |
NekoGloop |
gonna copy the minetest over, regenerate a vanilla world with just mesecons and stairsplus etc. in place |
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saschaheylik |
celeron is in -dev |
| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
but celeron is not currently doing anything with minetest. |
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saschaheylik |
but hes op... |
| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
so? |
| 16:04 |
saschaheylik |
that was the question |
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saschaheylik |
<iqualfragile> uhm… are there ops in this cannel? because i have not seen any |
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NekoGloop |
-this- channel |
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saschaheylik |
im sure he would come over to kick people |
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* NekoGloop |
kicks saschaheylik |
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saschaheylik |
except you dont |
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NekoGloop |
Meow~ :3 |
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NekoGloop |
Ohai Calinou :3 |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
hi |
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keegan |
hey |
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keegan |
my computer s dumb |
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NekoGloop_ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhLi81HeM8 |
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* Calinou |
kicks NekoGloop_ to ##fix_your_connection |
| 16:19 |
NekoGloop_ |
whatever |
| 16:20 |
NekoGloop_ |
Obai NekoGloop :3 |
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Calinou |
everwhat |
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keegan |
why is my laptop having cpu heart attacks? |
| 16:21 |
NekoGloop_ |
because you're using it |
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keegan |
i just turn it on |
| 16:22 |
NekoGloop_ |
because you're using it |
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Calinou |
don't use noobuntu :3 |
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keegan |
its on my windows laptop |
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NekoGloop_ |
>windows |
| 16:23 |
NekoGloop_ |
>laptop |
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NekoGloop_ |
umad bro |
| 16:23 |
NekoGloop_ |
windows is for PCs, not laptops |
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Calinou |
winblows is for nothing |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
FTFY |
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NekoGloop_ |
To make mods world-exclusive, I put them in ~/worlds/world/worldmods, correct? |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
yes |
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Calinou |
/worlds/my_world_name/worldmods/moreblocks/init.lua |
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NekoGloop_ |
ok thanks |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
example structure ^ |
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NekoGloop_ |
I'm making a challenge map, wanted to know |
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NekoGloop_ |
I need worldedit, stairsplus, and mesecons. |
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NekoGloop_ |
w |
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NekoGloop_ |
... |
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NekoGloop_ |
which reminds me, I need to re-pull from github |
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NekoGloop_ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78&feature=related |
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NekoGloop_ |
How do I call the meta of another node and set it as the meta of another? |
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thexyz |
i think you should know fields' names you want to copy from one to another |
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NekoGloop_ |
uh... so how do I do that? |
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NekoGloop_ |
the node I want to call is "special:irremovable" |
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thexyz |
oh, it seems i'm wrong |
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thexyz |
just use to_table/from_table |
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thexyz |
so local from = meta1:to_table() |
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thexyz |
meta2:from_table(from) |
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NekoGloop_ |
er... |
| 16:43 |
NekoGloop_ |
I'll try to use that how I understood it |
| 16:44 |
NekoGloop_ |
oh never mind, that wouldnt work anyway |
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NekoGloop_ |
Ohai neko259 :3 |
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neko259 |
Hi. |
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NekoGloop_ |
Another neko, eh? lol |
| 16:51 |
NekoGloop_ |
I really shouldnt apply 20 different effects to the same image and expect it to not look like shit |
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NekoGloop_ |
How do I make a node not drop anything when it is destroyed? |
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PilzAdam |
drop = "", |
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NekoGloop_ |
ok |
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NekoGloop_ |
that's what I thought but I couldnt be sure |
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OldCoder |
NekoGloop_, the other neko has been around but I haven't seen him or her talk until now |
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NekoGloop_ |
i know |
| 17:25 |
OldCoder |
Yes, I guess you'd notice nekos |
| 17:26 |
NekoGloop_ |
:3 |
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NekoGloop_ |
how does toolrepair work? |
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NekoGloop_ |
(I'm making a gamemode :P) |
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PilzAdam |
NekoGloop_, jsut put 2 tools of the same type in the crafting grid |
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NekoGloop_ |
ah |
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NekoGloop_ |
and that does what? |
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PilzAdam |
adds the two wears of the tools plus a bonus |
| 17:29 |
NekoGloop_ |
ah, i see |
| 17:29 |
NekoGloop_ |
so in an adventurecraft-esque mode, leave it or keep it? |
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PilzAdam |
nobody use toolrepair so its not important |
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PilzAdam |
nobody even knows what toolreapair is |
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NekoGloop_ |
lol ok |
| 17:31 |
NekoGloop_ |
so remove it so that the few people who do know dont try to use it? |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
leave it in |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdam |
so the people wich play minetest long get a bonus |
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NekoGloop_ |
lolno |
| 17:32 |
NekoGloop_ |
bye-bye toolrepair ;) |
| 17:33 |
iqualfragile |
oh, hey, there is toolrepair? |
| 17:33 |
iqualfragile |
awsome :D |
| 17:33 |
NekoGloop_ |
... lol |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
as is said |
| 17:37 |
NekoGloop_ |
ok, so now no ores generate ;) |
| 17:38 |
NekoGloop_ |
Let's go comment out ores node registering so that those arent there... |
| 17:40 |
NekoGloop_ |
Wow, this is confusing >.> |
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NekoGloop_ |
oh great, hmmmm... |
| 17:40 |
hmmmm |
...yes? |
| 17:40 |
NekoGloop_ |
:D |
| 17:40 |
hmmmm |
... |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop_ |
I'm bored :D |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
arent you coding? |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop_ |
sorta |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
can you make bread texture? |
| 17:41 |
NekoGloop_ |
I'm really just f*cking with the default mod. |
| 17:42 |
NekoGloop_ |
Isnt there already bread in nature mod? |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
<PilzAdam> NekoGloop_, jsut put 2 tools of the same type in the crafting grid |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
the bonus is very small by default: 2% |
| 17:45 |
NekoGloop_ |
i know |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
moreblocks extends it to 15% though :3 |
| 17:45 |
NekoGloop_ |
i know that too |
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NekoGloop_ |
how do I make a tool have infinite uses? |
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PilzAdam |
in the groupcaps uses=0 i think |
| 17:58 |
NekoGloop_ |
thank you |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
im not sure about that |
| 17:58 |
NekoGloop_ |
ok |
| 18:16 |
NekoGloop_ |
yup |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
Someone want to test my farming mod: http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip ? |
| 18:16 |
NekoGloop_ |
you were right |
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NekoGloop_ |
And I hate f*cking with default |
| 18:18 |
NekoGloop_ |
sand is being retarded |
| 18:19 |
NekoGloop_ |
I can comment out all the code that has anything to do with falling nodes, and it's still being retarded as f*ck |
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NekoGloop_ |
Now, my adventurecraft gamemode disallows breaking of nodes with anything but an edit stick, which is only available via creative inventory or /giveme |
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NekoGloop_ |
Ohai Jeija |
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Jeija |
Hi NekoGloop_ |
| 18:25 |
NekoGloop_ |
Damn, I still have the underscore lol |
| 18:25 |
NekoGloop |
Better :3 |
| 18:26 |
NekoGloop |
Well, adventuretest is coming nicelt |
| 18:26 |
NekoGloop |
nicely* |
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NekoGloop |
How would I make an abm work for a group? |
| 18:33 |
NekoGloop |
example an abm for all nodes with group {trap=1} |
| 18:34 |
PilzAdam |
nodenames = {"group:trap"}, |
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NekoGloop |
ok, thank you |
| 18:37 |
NekoGloop |
how do i check for a certain level? |
| 18:38 |
NekoGloop |
i.e. {trap=1} does something different than {trap=2} |
| 18:38 |
PilzAdam |
if node.groups.trap == 1 then |
| 18:38 |
NekoGloop |
than you |
| 18:38 |
NekoGloop |
thank* |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
use the node and not the name |
| 18:39 |
NekoGloop |
? |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
dont use "modname:nodename".groups |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
this wont worl |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
*work |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
use mine |
| 18:39 |
NekoGloop |
so that line exactly? |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
use minetest.env:get_node(pos).groups |
| 18:40 |
NekoGloop |
... ok |
| 18:43 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=relmfu ding dong... |
| 18:45 |
NekoGloop |
We need a /clearworld function :P |
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NekoGloop |
is there a mod I can use to allow a /clearworld? |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
delete the map.sqlite |
| 18:46 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 18:46 |
NekoGloop |
(seriously?) |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 18:46 |
NekoGloop |
0.0 |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
only the blocks will be deletet |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
inventory and position will be safe |
| 18:47 |
NekoGloop |
lol @ map.sqlite in notepad++ |
| 18:47 |
NekoGloop |
it must be a compressed filetype, correct? |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
its a sqlite database |
| 18:56 |
NekoGloop |
buckets... go or no go for adventuretest? |
| 18:57 |
PilzAdam |
i dont know what is the goal of adventuretest |
| 18:58 |
NekoGloop |
adventurecraft-esque playing enviroment |
| 18:58 |
NekoGloop |
I incorporated bobblocks's method of damaging the player when they hit traps... |
| 18:59 |
NekoGloop |
As well as an edit-stick that is the only tool that can break anything... |
| 18:59 |
NekoGloop |
But should buckets be in? |
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PilzAdam |
you "destroy" water when taking it with bucket |
| 19:00 |
PilzAdam |
so: no |
| 19:00 |
NekoGloop |
ok |
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NekoGloop |
Now let's hope that minetest doesnt crash after all this editing :D |
| 19:01 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 19:01 |
NekoGloop |
yup, it crashed >.> |
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NekoGloop |
Hm, it also has less processor load lol |
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NekoGloop |
(i got it to load :P) |
| 19:03 |
NekoGloop |
Hm... I wonder if mesecons still works... |
| 19:03 |
NekoGloop |
oh wow, they do |
| 19:03 |
NekoGloop |
wasnt expecting that :P |
| 19:04 |
NekoGloop |
Hm... How do I make time stop? |
| 19:05 |
PilzAdam |
time_speed = 0 in minetest.conf |
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NekoGloop_ |
Repeat that please |
| 19:06 |
PilzAdam |
time_speed = 0 in minetest.conf |
| 19:06 |
PilzAdam |
or minetest.setting_set(time_speed, 0) |
| 19:06 |
NekoGloop_ |
ok |
| 19:07 |
NekoGloop_ |
Wouldnt that affect all maps though? |
| 19:07 |
PilzAdam |
im not sure |
| 19:07 |
PilzAdam |
im feeling like writing 90% of your code :) |
| 19:07 |
NekoGloop_ |
ok |
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NekoGloop_ |
lol |
| 19:08 |
NekoGloop_ |
I have the ideas, you have the code ;) |
| 19:08 |
PilzAdam |
i have ideas too |
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_2cool4me4_ |
I made a video for my ALU |
| 19:09 |
NekoGloop_ |
oh look I left |
| 19:09 |
NekoGlooop |
... too many O's |
| 19:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMbXXkHykJA |
| 19:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Lotsa mitsakes |
| 19:09 |
NekoGloop |
_2cool4me4_: Link it? |
| 19:09 |
NekoGloop |
dammit ninja'd |
| 19:09 |
_2cool4me4_ |
lol |
| 19:10 |
NekoGloop |
btw: may-say-cons is not correct |
| 19:11 |
_2cool4me4_ |
So what is it? |
| 19:11 |
NekoGloop |
me-se-cons, exactly how you see it, is correct |
| 19:11 |
NekoGloop |
dont put emphasis on the "s" btw |
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_2cool4me4_ |
well sorry, it's my first voiceover |
| 19:11 |
NekoGloop |
ok ok just making sure you know |
| 19:12 |
NekoGloop |
incase you decide to do another one |
| 19:12 |
PilzAdam |
farming with my farming mod is fun: http://www.zimg.eu/i/571274704 |
| 19:12 |
NekoGloop |
LOL 9897 MICROCONTROLLERS |
| 19:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
that wasn't random at all |
| 19:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
wat |
| 19:12 |
NekoGloop |
you have 9897 microcontrollers in the vid ;) |
| 19:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Oh, yeah |
| 19:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It's my mesecons fun world, I mess with them a lot |
| 19:13 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 19:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
This is my first useful thing |
| 19:13 |
NekoGloop |
i have one of those |
| 19:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
And it features much of the same features of minecraft! |
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PilzAdam |
:) |
| 19:14 |
NekoGloop |
isnt the thing you're showing just a really complicated multi-logic gate? |
| 19:14 |
_2cool4me4_ |
where |
| 19:14 |
NekoGloop |
the whole thing |
| 19:14 |
_2cool4me4_ |
yep |
| 19:15 |
NekoGloop |
basically a couple OR gates and an AND gate, maybe a single NOR gate? |
| 19:15 |
_2cool4me4_ |
no, a single XOR |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
i made this a few months ago without microcontrollers |
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_2cool4me4_ |
so it's (me) se with a "short" e? |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
but with 4 bit each number |
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_2cool4me4_ |
It's my first time with anything near computing |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
was 20*20*30 |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
with microconrollers it would be 5*5*1 |
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_2cool4me4_ |
See, that's how progress works |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
i made a keybord with microcontrollers that converts the input into ascii |
| 19:17 |
_2cool4me4_ |
GAH |
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* _2cool4me4_ |
runs |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
it needs about 45sec. for 1 character :) |
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_2cool4me4_ |
oh |
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NekoGloop |
"long" e |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
28 microcontrollers |
| 19:18 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Me-See-cons? |
| 19:18 |
NekoGloop |
Me-s-cons |
| 19:19 |
NekoGloop |
or if you prefer, Mes-cons |
| 19:19 |
_2cool4me4_ |
oohkay |
| 19:19 |
NekoGloop |
the last one is probably correct |
| 19:19 |
PilzAdam |
every of the 28 Microcontrollers with about 550 chars of code |
| 19:20 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 19:20 |
_2cool4me4_ |
wat |
| 19:20 |
PilzAdam |
heres code for the "A" |
| 19:20 |
PilzAdam |
if(!D) off(A) off(B) sbi(10, 1); if(C) sbi(11, 1); if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(8,0) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) on(A) sbi(7,0) sbi(8,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(6,0) sbi(7,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(5,0) sbi(6,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(4,0) sbi(5,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(3,0) sbi(4,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(2,0) sbi(3,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(# |
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PilzAdam |
10) on(A) sbi(1,0) sbi(2,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) on(A) sbi(11,0) sbi(1,1) sbi(10, 0);; |
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NekoGloop |
holy sh*t |
| 19:20 |
_2cool4me4_ |
That would take a while |
| 19:22 |
NakedFury |
http://vozme.com/index.php?lang=en type mesecons and hear how they pronounce it |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
in C comes the signal from keaboard; D is the tact; A is output of ascii |
| 19:22 |
NekoGloop |
that thing is stupid |
| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, type "PilzAdam" |
| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
:) |
| 19:23 |
_2cool4me4_ |
wierd |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
sounds like plucking a bow string xD |
| 19:23 |
NakedFury |
nice |
| 19:23 |
NakedFury |
the voice is a little weird |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
try female |
| 19:23 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Type nekogloop |
| 19:23 |
NekoGloop |
i did that |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
Neck-Gloop is not how you say it ;) |
| 19:24 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It is in the computer world |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
lol female voice says Necka-Galoop |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
lol type only Gloop |
| 19:25 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Don't type 2cool4me4 |
| 19:25 |
NekoGloop |
female for that is how I say it |
| 19:26 |
NekoGloop |
LOL _2cool4me4_ |
| 19:26 |
NekoGloop |
type lol ;) |
| 19:26 |
_2cool4me4_ |
That's right |
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| 19:27 |
NekoGloop |
type some romanji, get some freaky sh*t |
| 19:28 |
NekoGloop |
Example: "Anata yo watashite" |
| 19:29 |
NekoGloop |
supposed to be A-na-ta yo wa-ta-shi-te |
| 19:29 |
NekoGloop |
Anyways, back to coding |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
who wants to try the beta of my farming mod? |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/571274704 |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip |
| 19:32 |
NekoGloop |
not me |
| 19:32 |
PilzAdam |
:( |
| 19:33 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Is there a program like MCEdit for Minetest |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
what is MCEdit? |
| 19:34 |
_2cool4me4_ |
It lets you change the terrain in a minecraft world |
| 19:34 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Like make the whole thing flat |
| 19:34 |
NakedFury |
I think mcedit could be made to work with minetest |
| 19:34 |
NakedFury |
its opensource |
| 19:34 |
NekoGloop |
isnt there a thing in the forums? |
| 19:34 |
PilzAdam |
WorldEdit |
| 19:34 |
NekoGloop |
not what he means |
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_2cool4me4_ |
looks like it could work |
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| 19:38 |
NakedFury |
world edit is coming along nicely |
| 19:39 |
NakedFury |
I think it just had a major overhaul |
| 19:39 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I just wiped 8680 blocks! (6) |
| 19:39 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 19:42 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I'm clear cutting the world! |
| 19:43 |
tinoesroho |
Heya. |
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| 19:43 |
NakedFury |
hey |
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| 19:44 |
_2cool4me4_ |
NO SAPLINGS |
| 19:45 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 19:46 |
NekoGloop |
How hard would a mob spawner block be, and then the code for the mob itself? (mob would mimic MC zombies, to keep it simple) |
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| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
mobspawner = easy |
| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
mob = very hard |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
ok :3 |
| 19:47 |
* NekoGloop |
puts on sunglasses |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
Challenge accepted. |
| 19:47 |
PilzAdam |
I will be your wingman! |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
lol ok |
| 19:47 |
NekoGloop |
then talk to me in PM |
| 19:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
how do you turn up the minimum viewing range?!?!? |
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khonkhortisan |
r |
| 19:48 |
_2cool4me4_ |
no |
| 19:48 |
NekoGloop |
i think he means without making lagtastic spikes |
| 19:49 |
_2cool4me4_ |
lol |
| 19:49 |
PilzAdam |
viewing_range_nodes_max = 160 and viewing_range_nodes_min = 35 |
| 19:49 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I turned it down but can't turn it back up! |
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| 19:50 |
_2cool4me4_ |
There, it's working again |
| 19:50 |
NekoGloop |
wb Jeija :3 |
| 19:50 |
_2cool4me4_ |
yay jeija! |
| 19:51 |
NekoGloop |
overviewing animals code now |
| 19:51 |
NekoGloop |
hoping to be able to make it somewhat less... laggy |
| 19:52 |
jin_xi |
look at c55 mobs mod maybe |
| 19:52 |
NekoGloop |
tried that, it's just confusing ;) |
| 19:52 |
tinoesroho |
Neko, I`ve already done it. |
| 19:53 |
tinoesroho |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2764 |
| 19:53 |
NekoGloop |
I'm trying to make an adventuretest mode |
| 19:53 |
NekoGloop |
similar to adventurecraft ;) |
| 19:54 |
tinoesroho |
Then simply remove all the other animalmods, leaving the vombies and animals intact. |
| 19:54 |
NekoGloop |
need mobs of some kind |
| 19:54 |
NekoGloop |
... how about I just f*ck with it myself, eh? |
| 19:54 |
NekoGloop |
Or me and PilzAdam, i guess ;) |
| 19:54 |
tinoesroho |
Don`t reinvent the wheel, Neko. My advice is to play around with the Vombies code and see what else you can do. |
| 19:54 |
tinoesroho |
The animals engine is really flexible. |
| 19:55 |
PilzAdam |
tinoesroho, i agrre with you.... sorry NekoGloop |
| 19:55 |
NekoGloop |
I'm gonna reinvent the wheel to be round ;) |
| 19:55 |
_2cool4me4_ |
wat |
| 19:55 |
NekoGloop |
Mesecons compatibility, anyone? |
| 19:55 |
Jeija |
You were talking about mesecons pronounciation: According to celeron it should be meh-seh-cons (just like they say here http://vozme.com/index.php?lang=en), I call it mees-cons |
| 19:55 |
tinoesroho |
Hey Pilz. |
| 19:55 |
NekoGloop |
I say it like Jeija lol |
| 19:55 |
NekoGloop |
(I just didnt use that annotation) |
| 19:55 |
tinoesroho |
It would be downright simple to change the abm to some sort of mesecon trigger. |
| 19:56 |
_2cool4me4_ |
So did I do it right, oh mighty creator? |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
Jeija, i pronounce it german :) |
| 19:56 |
tinoesroho |
*drools while droning on about various things* |
| 19:57 |
Jeija |
PilzAdam: Although I'm also german, I pronounce it english; sounds kinda stupid in german |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
I know |
| 19:57 |
tinoesroho |
Eh. Meese (rhymes with geese) cons, I say myself. |
| 19:57 |
tinoesroho |
It sounds so meh seh other wise. |
| 19:58 |
NekoGloop |
That's what I say, and probably how jeija says it to, tinoesroho |
| 19:58 |
tinoesroho |
Damned input switched to french layout. Blasted bilingualism. |
| 19:58 |
Jeija |
http://translate.google.com/#de/hi/mihsconns That's exactly how I pronouce it |
| 19:58 |
tinoesroho |
It could be worse, it could be Punjabi input. |
| 19:58 |
Jeija |
(let it pronounce the german of course) |
| 19:58 |
NekoGloop |
OH MY GOD TOO LOUD |
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| 19:59 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Okay |
| 20:00 |
NekoGloop |
@Jeija: I say it that way too, despite I'm american of course ;) |
| 20:00 |
NekoGloop |
That one just makes the most sense imo |
| 20:01 |
_2cool4me4_ |
THAT's how you burn things in Minetest |
| 20:01 |
NekoGloop |
//set fire:fire |
| 20:01 |
_2cool4me4_ |
No, lava sources |
| 20:01 |
_2cool4me4_ |
nuff said |
| 20:01 |
NekoGloop |
use creative mode, you can put fire in your inventory ;) |
| 20:02 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Really? |
| 20:02 |
tinoesroho |
Oh man. My brother torched my entire city with just a single bucket of lava. |
| 20:02 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Build it out of stone next time |
| 20:03 |
OldCoder |
tinoesroho, were you allowed to use buckets of water to stop it? |
| 20:03 |
tinoesroho |
It didn`t work on 0.4.0. |
| 20:03 |
tinoesroho |
Punching the flames works. |
| 20:03 |
tinoesroho |
Somewhat. |
| 20:03 |
tinoesroho |
I`ve removed the buckets altogether - much too griefing friendly. |
| 20:04 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Now there's huge glitch shadows |
| 20:05 |
_2cool4me4_ |
okay, that'll be burning for a while |
| 20:05 |
cy1 |
tinoesroho: you should just set lava to not burn stuff. :T |
| 20:05 |
tinoesroho |
Disable the fire mod, ehÉ |
| 20:05 |
cy1 |
That too. |
| 20:05 |
tinoesroho |
(STUPID FREAKING FRENCH INPUT!) |
| 20:05 |
_2cool4me4_ |
lol |
| 20:05 |
cy1 |
Fire is pretty and amazingly realistic but |
| 20:05 |
cy1 |
it kills servers |
| 20:05 |
tinoesroho |
Eh yup. |
| 20:06 |
leo_rockway |
there's probably not a legit usage for lava in a server... |
| 20:06 |
cy1 |
My server has a modified fire mod that works OK. |
| 20:06 |
leo_rockway |
since we don't do obsidian. |
| 20:06 |
cy1 |
leo_rockway: orly |
| 20:06 |
cy1 |
lava is useful for killing people #1, and for pretty glass enclosed structures #2 |
| 20:07 |
cy1 |
w/out lava what is the temple of Satan supposed to use for a sacrificial pit? Falling damage? Lame! |
| 20:07 |
tinoesroho |
Only if you cap it. My brother mad a chandilier and forgot to cap it. Fire in the hole! Out of the hole! Fire everywhere! |
| 20:07 |
tinoesroho |
Maptools killblocks! |
| 20:07 |
cy1 |
"shit I still have half a heart left. Hold on I'll build a ladder up so I can sacrifice myself again." |
| 20:07 |
tinoesroho |
That works every time! |
| 20:08 |
tinoesroho |
But lava is so much cooler looking. |
| 20:08 |
tinoesroho |
-.- |
| 20:08 |
cy1 |
yeah |
| 20:08 |
cy1 |
especially since someone animated it |
| 20:09 |
tinoesroho |
Hey, anybody interested in running a Nazi Zombies server(Question mark) I`d do so, but I`m not at home(period) |
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| 20:10 |
cy1 |
I only do minetest servers. |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
tinoesroho, not nazis |
| 20:10 |
NakedFury |
why cant they be Jew Zombies? |
| 20:10 |
NakedFury |
its always nazis |
| 20:11 |
NekoGloop |
I put lava on a server to make a challenge room, chest at the end for the victor ;) |
| 20:11 |
_2cool4me4_ |
lol |
| 20:11 |
_2cool4me4_ |
what did the chest have in it |
| 20:11 |
NekoGloop |
mithril |
| 20:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
oh |
| 20:12 |
NekoGloop |
moreores was in effect |
| 20:12 |
NekoGloop |
;) |
| 20:12 |
tinoesroho |
... Apple zombies much(question mark) |
| 20:12 |
NakedFury |
it had a chained mithril vest |
| 20:12 |
PilzAdam |
running a cotton plantage is hard work: http://www.zimg.eu/i/635089977 |
| 20:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I would have made it empty :evil: |
| 20:12 |
NekoGloop |
well everyone after the first person comes to an empty chest, so... >:3 |
| 20:12 |
tinoesroho |
Scratch that. 3D MC-player-like zombies. Ha! |
| 20:12 |
_2cool4me4_ |
what's your os pilz? |
| 20:13 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: does farming stuff grow that far away from water? |
| 20:13 |
PilzAdam |
_2cool4me4_, Kubuntu 11.10 |
| 20:13 |
_2cool4me4_ |
Ohh, I thought it looked something like Ubuntu. |
| 20:13 |
PilzAdam |
cy1, in radius of 4 |
| 20:13 |
cy1 |
ooh thought it had to be like right next to it. |
| 20:14 |
PilzAdam |
_2cool4me4_, KDE is better than Unity so i use Kubuntu and not ubuntu |
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| 20:14 |
PilzAdam |
but everything else is same |
| 20:14 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: Lubuntu is where it's at :B |
| 20:14 |
leo_rockway |
KDE <3 |
| 20:14 |
NakedFury |
too many ubuntus |
| 20:15 |
_2cool4me4_ |
But what about nubuntu for the newbies? |
| 20:15 |
NekoGloop |
not enough windows ;P |
| 20:15 |
leo_rockway |
PilzAdam: which mod is that with the cotton? |
| 20:15 |
PilzAdam |
My farming mod (not released yet) |
| 20:15 |
iqualfragile |
pilzadam: is there a repos for your farming-mod? im curently using hydroculture but its too inbalanced |
| 20:15 |
PilzAdam |
you get free beta access: http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip |
| 20:15 |
cy1 |
NakedFury: http://www.jewbuntu.com/ |
| 20:16 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: orly |
| 20:16 |
NakedFury |
get the fuck out |
| 20:16 |
PilzAdam |
cy1, lol |
| 20:16 |
NakedFury |
thats a joke right? |
| 20:16 |
PilzAdam |
i hope so |
| 20:16 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I hope so |
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| 20:16 |
_2cool4me4_ |
There's an echo in here |
| 20:16 |
leo_rockway |
PilzAdam: I'm at work :S I'll fetch it once I get home. |
| 20:16 |
_2cool4me4_ |
can you say virus? |
| 20:17 |
leo_rockway |
virus |
| 20:17 |
NekoGloop |
Oh god it's too many m's |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
man if linux devs stopped making more crap distros and got together for 1 version linux would rule the world |
| 20:17 |
* PilzAdam |
says "VIrus" |
| 20:17 |
_2cool4me4_ |
WRONG |
| 20:17 |
leo_rockway |
NakedFury: nonsense. |
| 20:17 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, absolutly wron |
| 20:17 |
PilzAdam |
wrong* |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
really? |
| 20:17 |
leo_rockway |
Irish potato famine is my answer to that. |
| 20:17 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: http://i.imgur.com/Soe9x.png |
| 20:18 |
cy1 |
NakedFury: distros are just pretty packaging on the same damn programs, so don't worry about it. |
| 20:18 |
leo_rockway |
you rely on one thing, find a weakness to that thing and *poof* you're gone. |
| 20:18 |
cy1 |
It's the Qt/Gtk split that really gets my jimmies rustled. |
| 20:18 |
PilzAdam |
cy1, Is that hydroculture? |
| 20:18 |
leo_rockway |
Qt <3 |
| 20:18 |
NakedFury |
ok thought distros were some sort of forks of a version |
| 20:19 |
leo_rockway |
not really |
| 20:19 |
cy1 |
"Trolltech: hey let's fix GTK oh no wait we can fag everything up by splitting the UI community in half forever lolololololol" |
| 20:19 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: It's a farming mod. Yours I guess. Your textures at least. |
| 20:19 |
tinoesroho |
And don`t mention KDE. I hate installing KDElibs |
| 20:19 |
leo_rockway |
cy1: GTK wasn't a general purpose graphical tolkit. |
| 20:19 |
leo_rockway |
the G meant GIMP at the time. |
| 20:19 |
_2cool4me4_ |
this is jewbuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKNdiFkY0A |
| 20:19 |
tinoesroho |
And Nokià has now dumped QT on another company. -.- |
| 20:19 |
leo_rockway |
Digia |
| 20:19 |
tinoesroho |
Myself, I use Linux Mint. No issues. |
| 20:20 |
leo_rockway |
Nokia sucks, so hopefully things o well. |
| 20:20 |
leo_rockway |
go* |
| 20:20 |
NakedFury |
nokia do suck, I agree |
| 20:20 |
cy1 |
leo_rockway: neh, well Trolltech could have done that. They didn't so instead people still use C++ out of inertia. |
| 20:20 |
tinoesroho |
Heck. Linux Mint is now number four on the OS charts. -.- Yey! |
| 20:20 |
leo_rockway |
I think GTK is horrible. |
| 20:20 |
jin_xi |
try GNUstep |
| 20:20 |
cy1 |
GTK is better than Qt. That's not hard to do though. Both are pretty horrible. :p |
| 20:20 |
leo_rockway |
I have. |
| 20:21 |
leo_rockway |
I love Qt |
| 20:21 |
leo_rockway |
the E libraries are nice too. |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
NakedFury, wrong (again) |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
Linux is just the kernel |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
everything else depends on the distro |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
they can be absolutly different |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
some distros have package repos, in other you have to compile the source |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
there are different GUI like gnome, KDE, unity |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
*GUIs |
| 20:21 |
* PilzAdam |
stops the long monolog |
| 20:21 |
NekoGloop |
Isnt C++ enough letters? |
| 20:21 |
jin_xi |
qt features are ok, MOC sucks |
| 20:21 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: They can be, but they usually aren't. |
| 20:21 |
tinoesroho |
`Hey! I can do this better than you can! FORK YOU!` And then somebody thinks, hey I can do this better than you and here we go again. |
| 20:22 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: what's the problem in that? |
| 20:22 |
cy1 |
tinoesroho: and people who are wrong get lost in obscurity. yay! |
| 20:22 |
cy1 |
This is why I like git. |
| 20:22 |
cy1 |
Everyone forks everyone else. |
| 20:22 |
tinoesroho |
Because now we`ve got 1120 forking distros and not enough devs to maintain em all. Myself, I like Debian and Fedora. Period. |
| 20:22 |
cy1 |
minetest-c55 is literally c55's personal opinion as to what minetest should be. |
| 20:23 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: then they die o.0 |
| 20:23 |
leo_rockway |
again, what's the problem there? |
| 20:23 |
cy1 |
tinoesroho: I dunno, there sure seem to be a lot of people involved with Ubuntu... |
| 20:23 |
leo_rockway |
survival of the fittest. |
| 20:23 |
leo_rockway |
if a distro offers something others don't, then that one will not die. |
| 20:23 |
tinoesroho |
Try converting your relatives to Linux. They get lost darned quick. Linux Mint, not so much, but any other distro and they go boom. |
| 20:23 |
leo_rockway |
my sister uses Arch |
| 20:24 |
leo_rockway |
o.0 |
| 20:24 |
cy1 |
Besides that Kubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu have been streamlined down to compilation settings pretty much. |
| 20:24 |
tinoesroho |
(```Why so many versions(question mark) Why can`t they all just work together like Microsoft(question mark) How come I can`t install MSN smileys(questionmark)```) |
| 20:24 |
cy1 |
tinoesroho: I would if I could convince em to even try it... |
| 20:24 |
cy1 |
"work together like Microsoft" lol |
| 20:24 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: don't they ask you questions about Windows too? |
| 20:25 |
NekoGloop |
Microsoft needs to focus on Windows, not Xcrap |
| 20:25 |
NekoGloop |
Excuse me, Xbox. |
| 20:25 |
cy1 |
oh no, Windows is beyond questioning. If it doesn't work it's just your original sin that caused it. |
| 20:25 |
tinoesroho |
Heck yes. I`m the go-to guy around my place. |
| 20:25 |
leo_rockway |
my answer to Windows questions is "I don't know, I haven't used Windows since XP SP2" |
| 20:25 |
NekoGloop |
I have said windows, leo_rockway ;) |
| 20:25 |
NekoGloop |
On this very computer |
| 20:25 |
* vicscandl |
has been redmond free for over 5 years now... |
| 20:26 |
tinoesroho |
I still have 98 installed on an old box for training purposes. Borked my 7 install. Tried 8, borked that too. |
| 20:26 |
cy1 |
I haven't used Windows since 98 :B |
| 20:26 |
leo_rockway |
vicscandl: pretty much the same for me. |
| 20:26 |
leo_rockway |
cy1: I had Slackware 7 at the time, but then my hard drive died... |
| 20:26 |
leo_rockway |
I didn't have my own comp, and had to share with my family. |
| 20:26 |
tinoesroho |
I did train my very computer-averse father to use Linux Mint. He`s found bajillions of features I never knew existed. |
| 20:26 |
leo_rockway |
they all use GNU/Linux now, luckily |
| 20:26 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: Is that the year, '98 or windows 98? |
| 20:26 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: yes |
| 20:26 |
NekoGloop |
...? |
| 20:26 |
tinoesroho |
And this coming from the guy who converted in `08 |
| 20:26 |
NekoGloop |
Both? |
| 20:26 |
saschaheylik_ |
tinoesroho: i wish my father was that smart |
| 20:27 |
cy1 |
either or, or both! |
| 20:27 |
cy1 |
But both. |
| 20:27 |
NekoGloop |
... ok then... |
| 20:27 |
NekoGloop |
POLICE! |
| 20:27 |
leo_rockway |
I taught my mom how to use a computer. I told her to take the mouse in her hand and to point up... |
| 20:27 |
NekoGloop |
POLICE! |
| 20:27 |
leo_rockway |
she literally raised the mouse up |
| 20:27 |
NekoGloop |
MADMAN ON THE LOOSE!! |
| 20:27 |
* cy1 |
uses inclusive or in everyday conversation `-` |
| 20:27 |
leo_rockway |
that's how much she knew about computers. |
| 20:27 |
tinoesroho |
I don`t. When he gets on the computer, I can rest assured I won`t be using it until the next day. He loooooves playing on it. |
| 20:28 |
leo_rockway |
she can play games on GNU/Linux without a problema now. |
| 20:28 |
tinoesroho |
My grandparents learned to play cards on Ubuntu back in 09. Wow. |
| 20:28 |
NekoGloop |
lol my family is extremely computer-oriented |
| 20:28 |
tinoesroho |
It was pretty cool showing them how I could grab all 208 games in a single command. Sadly, I am now haunted by Solitaire. |
| 20:29 |
_2cool4me4_ |
I wonder what would happen if my dad turned on this computer to linux one day... |
| 20:29 |
tinoesroho |
Not Ubuntu, is itÉ Save him the horrors of Unity! |
| 20:29 |
NekoGloop |
@_scool4me4_: In case of that, remove your hentai background ;) |
| 20:29 |
cy1 |
A few days ago I suggested to the person I live with "I still think you should give Linux a try. I could keep it working well and there'd be no problem!" and they were like "What I need is an up to date Windows version." |
| 20:29 |
tinoesroho |
sudo apt-get install sabayon |
| 20:30 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: a friend of mine absolutely loves Unity. |
| 20:30 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: That sounds like me |
| 20:30 |
cy1 |
I bring it up every few months or so... same response. |
| 20:30 |
leo_rockway |
I've tried it... I'm not impressed. |
| 20:30 |
tinoesroho |
And configure a Guest acount and they can never screw it up. |
| 20:30 |
tinoesroho |
All changes wiped when you set Sabayon up properly. Yes! |
| 20:30 |
tinoesroho |
"Some swear by Unity. Most swear AT it." |
| 20:30 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 20:30 |
* NekoGloop |
is not most or some |
| 20:30 |
leo_rockway |
cy1: well, it's funny to hear "I've tried Linux, it sucks" and then they tell you they tried it in 1999 o.0 |
| 20:30 |
* NekoGloop |
is the one |
| 20:31 |
cy1 |
Unity is OK I suppose. I prefer XFCE. |
| 20:31 |
leo_rockway |
I'm yet to try Gnome3 |
| 20:31 |
* tinoesroho |
always loads a liveCD into library computers |
| 20:31 |
cy1 |
leo_rockway: haha yeah that's pretty crazy |
| 20:31 |
tinoesroho |
They still haven`t noticed. Grin. |
| 20:31 |
cy1 |
tinoesroho: hacker! POLICE! SOMEBODY HELP! |
| 20:31 |
leo_rockway |
Newsflash: Linux did suck in 1999! |
| 20:31 |
cy1 |
Newsflash: everything sucked in 1999 |
| 20:31 |
cy1 |
and still sucks |
| 20:32 |
tinoesroho |
I remember the day I dropped xPUD into the slot. Most people were like, LOLWUT, and then clicked on the Firefox icon. |
| 20:32 |
NekoGloop |
Newsflash: the world didnt exist in 1999 |
| 20:32 |
PilzAdam |
lets build a time machine and travel to 1999! |
| 20:32 |
leo_rockway |
installing GNU/Linux you had to set up your monitor refresh rate manually... |
| 20:32 |
leo_rockway |
it was insane |
| 20:32 |
* PilzAdam |
starts building |
| 20:32 |
NekoGloop |
You will need some mese for that, PilzAdam. |
| 20:32 |
leo_rockway |
PilzAdam: give us the craft recipe. |
| 20:32 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: what server are you on? |
| 20:32 |
PilzAdam |
localhost |
| 20:33 |
cy1 |
._. |
| 20:33 |
NekoGloop |
He's on screw.my.life:30000 |
| 20:33 |
cy1 |
can't share that |
| 20:33 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 20:33 |
leo_rockway |
> work in IT |
| 20:33 |
* PilzAdam |
finished the machine |
| 20:33 |
NekoGloop |
would be funny if that's an actual server |
| 20:33 |
leo_rockway |
> input 127.0.0.1 in browser |
| 20:33 |
cy1 |
PilzAdam: I can has shell acct? c: |
| 20:33 |
leo_rockway |
> co-worker (who works in IT) asks "what IP is that?" |
| 20:33 |
* leo_rockway |
facepalms |
| 20:33 |
tinoesroho |
Haha. |
| 20:34 |
tinoesroho |
I spent a summer at a helpdesk. It was hilarious. |
| 20:34 |
PilzAdam |
ohhh i made a mistake |
| 20:34 |
cy1 |
"It's 127.0.0.1?" |
| 20:34 |
PilzAdam |
i build a machine that travels only in the future and not the past |
| 20:34 |
cy1 |
He meant to ask what is that IP address for, which he should have known. |
| 20:34 |
* PilzAdam |
destroys the time machine |
| 20:34 |
leo_rockway |
PilzAdam: one second per second, right? |
| 20:34 |
NekoGloop |
I spent a week in my friend's house. I had more computer problems to solve than an IT technician has in a year |
| 20:34 |
cy1 |
leo_rockway: depending on your reference frame! |
| 20:35 |
tinoesroho |
Why didn`t ya just install Linux on his PCÉ |
| 20:35 |
NekoGloop |
Because Linux causes more errors |
| 20:35 |
leo_rockway |
I have a friend who offers people with Windows problems to install Ubuntu on their comps. He charges 5 bucks for that and offers lifetime support for free. |
| 20:35 |
leo_rockway |
he rarely gets support calls. |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, linux only causes problems at the beginnig |
| 20:36 |
tinoesroho |
Ha. Smart. |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
and windows all the time |
| 20:36 |
NekoGloop |
Linux causes more errors in that short amount of time than a windows comp does in our lifetimes |
| 20:36 |
leo_rockway |
most people trying to install GNU/Linux complain it's hard... but they have never even tried to install Windows. |
| 20:37 |
tinoesroho |
"The problem is an I/O error. Ignorant Operator." |
| 20:37 |
leo_rockway |
and installing GNU/Linux these days is a walk in a park for the mots part. |
| 20:37 |
leo_rockway |
most* |
| 20:37 |
NekoGloop |
I had to install windows on a comp before |
| 20:37 |
NekoGloop |
that was not at all hard |
| 20:37 |
tinoesroho |
Just pop in a LiveCD, click install, select option ("Share hard drive!"), and go. |
| 20:37 |
leo_rockway |
you can even browse the web while it installs |
| 20:37 |
tinoesroho |
Windows freaking 98 on 486. Problems ahoy. |
| 20:38 |
tinoesroho |
Or Win 98 on a freaking P4. |
| 20:38 |
tinoesroho |
God. |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
tomorow i will realease my farming mod |
| 20:38 |
tinoesroho |
It couldn`t use more than a gig of ram. |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
ggt |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 20:38 |
tinoesroho |
AND IT FREAKING COULD`USE ONLY 100 GB of HDD! |
| 20:38 |
tinoesroho |
See ya |
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| 20:40 |
tinoesroho |
Hey theTroy |
| 20:40 |
NekoGloop |
I read that as "destroy" |
| 20:40 |
leo_rockway |
Detrot |
| 20:40 |
leo_rockway |
Detroit* |
| 20:41 |
NekoGloop |
lolwat |
| 20:41 |
iqualfragile |
im in the right channel |
| 20:42 |
iqualfragile |
milions of linux-users bashing (pun) the few windows-fanboys |
| 20:42 |
* leo_rockway |
doesn't use BASH o.o |
| 20:43 |
* NekoGloop |
bashes iqualfragile's head in |
| 20:43 |
tinoesroho |
I use SH myself. |
| 20:43 |
iqualfragile |
zsh |
| 20:44 |
leo_rockway |
zsh <3 |
| 20:44 |
iqualfragile |
nah, i dont even use a shel, i talk directly to the kernel using 2 copperwires |
| 20:44 |
leo_rockway |
zsh is really neat. |
| 20:45 |
NekoGloop |
can anyone point me to a decent documentation on the minetest api? |
| 20:46 |
RealBadAngel |
oh, there is such thing? |
| 20:46 |
NekoGloop |
nvm |
| 20:46 |
theTroy |
I use MacOS |
| 20:46 |
NekoGloop |
found it in lua_api.txt in the default folder |
| 20:46 |
theTroy |
screw linux and windows |
| 20:46 |
RealBadAngel |
same is in the forums neko |
| 20:47 |
NekoGloop |
ok whatever |
| 20:47 |
leo_rockway |
MacOS? As in MacOS 9? |
| 20:48 |
tinoesroho |
don`t knock it. |
| 20:48 |
tinoesroho |
OSX really sucks in comparison. |
| 20:48 |
* tinoesroho |
grins runs and ducks |
| 20:48 |
leo_rockway |
I have only used cheetah for a very short time... |
| 20:48 |
leo_rockway |
I'm not a fan of the walled garden |
| 20:48 |
NekoGloop |
ikr |
| 20:48 |
theTroy |
walled gardens are awesome |
| 20:49 |
theTroy |
you are spoon-fed what you must think and buy |
| 20:49 |
theTroy |
isnt that just brilliance in complete ignorance? |
| 20:49 |
leo_rockway |
theTroy: you'd be perfect as president of my country... |
| 20:49 |
theTroy |
I'll pass if your country isnt a world :P |
| 20:49 |
NekoGloop |
leo_rockway: Would that be the USA? ;) |
| 20:50 |
leo_rockway |
Argentina |
| 20:50 |
* tinoesroho |
Points at Mitt Romney. theTroy would make a good replacement |
| 20:50 |
* tinoesroho |
runs away back to Chile. |
| 20:50 |
leo_rockway |
I personally think that both Romney and Obama suck... |
| 20:50 |
leo_rockway |
it would be complicated for me to vote there |
| 20:50 |
tinoesroho |
So do I. I hope that Romney loses, otherwise us Canadians are in for a world of trouble. |
| 20:51 |
* tinoesroho |
finally gets his Chilean Citizenship |
| 20:51 |
theTroy |
But seriously guys, if we talk politics. Most countries are bound in ill minded populace that is being scared by one wolf or the other, making them completely ignore that they are running around like morons, barely get anything to eat, and are being skinnned alive in the process |
| 20:51 |
tinoesroho |
True. |
| 20:51 |
tinoesroho |
No matter what dictator you vote for, the wizard remains behind the controls. |
| 20:52 |
theTroy |
and you have a choice between corporate america, or soviet china |
| 20:52 |
theTroy |
>.> |
| 20:52 |
NekoGloop |
lol "OUCH!!!" |
| 20:52 |
* tinoesroho |
points to rudemacedon.ca |
| 20:53 |
* tinoesroho |
liked Socialist Allende`s Chile |
| 20:53 |
* NekoGloop |
points to idiot central |
| 20:53 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: and how did that end? =[ |
| 20:54 |
tinoesroho |
Assassination from commie, I mean cappy, USA. |
| 20:54 |
leo_rockway |
tinoesroho: exactly. |
| 20:54 |
leo_rockway |
it's not only necessary to have a good leader |
| 20:54 |
leo_rockway |
but to have the rest of the countrymen accept the leader |
| 20:54 |
* tinoesroho |
points to Killing Hope by William Blum |
| 20:54 |
leo_rockway |
when your own people sabotage their country it's impossible to go anywhere |
| 20:54 |
tinoesroho |
Damned Catholics and capitalists. ("He`s a godless commie!") |
| 20:55 |
tinoesroho |
Mind you, most were bankrolled by the CIA. Case in point: Truckers Union. |
| 20:55 |
tinoesroho |
("Where did you get those steaks, while the rest are eating poorlyÉ" "The CIA (laugh)") |
| 20:56 |
tinoesroho |
God, are we ever screwed. |
| 20:56 |
tinoesroho |
All the sheeple are blundering around bleating over who`s the better butcher, when we are all ignoring the wolf in our midst. |
| 20:56 |
tinoesroho |
I`m no marxist, but Capitalism is truly a parasite. |
| 20:57 |
theTroy |
Can you come up with a better system? |
| 20:57 |
theTroy |
Capitalism or anything else is not a parasite |
| 20:57 |
NekoGloop |
... One built out of mesecons |
| 20:57 |
theTroy |
its just an imperfect economical model |
| 20:57 |
* NekoGloop |
grins and runs |
| 20:58 |
theTroy |
Everything that is exploitable will be exploited |
| 20:58 |
leo_rockway |
NekoGloop: that system would be a Mess(e). |
| 20:58 |
tinoesroho |
Oy. |
| 20:58 |
leo_rockway |
NekoGloop: and people would try to mine it to extinction |
| 20:58 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 20:59 |
tinoesroho |
It`s tough to shift from an economy of scarcity to one of plenty. |
| 21:01 |
theTroy |
well, history is full of different attempts at economical and political models |
| 21:01 |
theTroy |
you have a different range between people, efficiency and exploitability |
| 21:01 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkI5iZmUs5Q&feature=related BAD APPLE BITCHEZ |
| 21:01 |
theTroy |
what everything slams into is education and attention level of the populace |
| 21:01 |
NekoGloop |
Alright, I've f*cked with default for enough today |
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| 21:02 |
theTroy |
we would not have democracy in ancient times |
| 21:02 |
theTroy |
because its simply infeasible |
| 21:02 |
tinoesroho |
Inefficient. |
| 21:03 |
tinoesroho |
Real democracy wouldn`t consist of voting for dicators, but direct voting from every member of the population. |
| 21:03 |
tinoesroho |
And it`s now only feasible today - google Liquid Democracy |
| 21:03 |
NekoGloop |
print("In "..goverment.." you get free cake") |
| 21:04 |
theTroy |
there are issues with those |
| 21:04 |
NekoGloop |
er... |
| 21:04 |
NekoGloop |
print("In "..government.." you get free cake") |
| 21:04 |
theTroy |
the idea of democracy is not simply getting "what most want" |
| 21:04 |
theTroy |
protection of minorities will vanish in pure democracy |
| 21:04 |
theTroy |
and you might end up with horrible discrimination |
| 21:06 |
tinoesroho |
And we don`t have that todayÉ |
| 21:06 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3Q-KPMMLY OH GOD YES |
| 21:06 |
theTroy |
not to an extend that would happen with pure and decentralised democracy |
| 21:07 |
tinoesroho |
Civil rights only really came to be in the 70s. And that`s with a democracy for hundreds of years. |
| 21:07 |
theTroy |
extent* |
| 21:07 |
theTroy |
yeah, but in this case you would end up with neighbours voting out a guy because he looks weird |
| 21:07 |
tinoesroho |
A more limited democracy - where the constitution would be over all (and 99% support required for any amendment) would work well. |
| 21:08 |
theTroy |
or based on some other nonsensical reasons |
| 21:08 |
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| 21:08 |
tinoesroho |
"Let`s revoke voting for all Apple users!" |
| 21:08 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 21:08 |
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| 21:09 |
iqualfragile |
thats a great idea |
| 21:09 |
tinoesroho |
Doesn`t seem like a bad idea with all these young hipsters supporting Ron Paul. |
| 21:09 |
* tinoesroho |
cues joke |
| 21:09 |
iqualfragile |
steins gate |
| 21:09 |
theTroy |
On a serious note, what do you recon of having a minimum education level raised so that 75% of population can't actually vote? ^,^ |
| 21:09 |
theTroy |
that would eliminate most of the apple users AND windows users |
| 21:09 |
NekoGloop |
Agreed, theTroy |
| 21:10 |
NekoGloop |
Except not me ;) |
| 21:10 |
tinoesroho |
Only about 20% of our citizens are literate. |
| 21:10 |
tinoesroho |
Less than 1 in 5 reads news. |
| 21:10 |
theTroy |
thats not true |
| 21:10 |
theTroy |
over the world, maybe |
| 21:10 |
tinoesroho |
More than 50% watch FOX. |
| 21:10 |
NekoGloop |
I dont read the news because it's just too depressing ;) |
| 21:10 |
tinoesroho |
And this in Canada. |
| 21:10 |
theTroy |
but 1st world countires have about 70% literacy |
| 21:10 |
theTroy |
if not more |
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| 21:10 |
tinoesroho |
In GB, over a third of the population is functionally illiterate. This, with mandatory schooling. |
| 21:11 |
tinoesroho |
To put it mildly, we`re screwed. |
| 21:11 |
iqualfragile |
while this would be a great idea, because the decicions would be wiser there are two problems: |
| 21:11 |
jin_xi |
one third? i find that hard to believe |
| 21:11 |
iqualfragile |
first: it would not be a democracy anymore |
| 21:11 |
NekoGloop |
That is to say, the human race is stupid |
| 21:11 |
iqualfragile |
wich has some serious philosophical implications |
| 21:12 |
tinoesroho |
We`ve put control of the nation into the hands of uneducated masses that vote by religion or whatever their favorite newscaster says. |
| 21:12 |
tinoesroho |
We should at least force voters to pass a current events quiz before voting. |
| 21:12 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
| 21:12 |
tinoesroho |
And maybe our "house of representatives" |
| 21:12 |
iqualfragile |
sec: 75 percen? 50 ? 25? 5? wich would you choose? |
| 21:13 |
NekoGloop |
can you imagine how long that would take? |
| 21:13 |
tinoesroho |
God. |
| 21:13 |
tinoesroho |
The world would be better off because of it. |
| 21:13 |
tinoesroho |
Then again, in Canada, voting takes FOREVER. |
| 21:13 |
iqualfragile |
that on the other hand would be a good idea, giveng out a quizz |
| 21:13 |
tinoesroho |
Totally. |
| 21:13 |
theTroy |
The thing is that we cling on democrazy as "best of the worst" and "for the people" |
| 21:13 |
theTroy |
either educate and make the whole population care |
| 21:13 |
tinoesroho |
This with only a 50% turnout. |
| 21:13 |
theTroy |
or do not use democracy |
| 21:14 |
iqualfragile |
oh, you are living in america, righ? how is life without democracy? |
| 21:14 |
tinoesroho |
In canada, only 60% of eligible people showed up to polls. And most - in my area - are cranky old white guys who don`t read the news. |
| 21:14 |
* vicscandl |
lives in his own little world...but it's ok, they know me here. |
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| 21:15 |
tinoesroho |
I` |
| 21:15 |
iqualfragile |
there are many non-voters here, too |
| 21:15 |
tinoesroho |
I would move to Estonia, but the situation will be just as bad in twenty years. |
| 21:15 |
tinoesroho |
The problem with "Representative democracy" is that it only represents the rich or powerful (usually 2-in-1). |
| 21:17 |
* tinoesroho |
goes to escapingthematrix.org |
| 21:17 |
tinoesroho |
Good book, wish our citizens all had a copy. |
| 21:19 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQWbyQh9y8 |
| 21:23 |
tinoesroho |
G2G |
| 21:24 |
saschaheylik_ |
iqualfragile: appereantly tons of prisons, tanks on trains and military police to sum it up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduQmQC5cFI |
| 21:25 |
iqualfragile |
awsome! so what are you going to do about it? |
| 21:25 |
saschaheylik_ |
im not american |
| 21:25 |
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| 21:26 |
saschaheylik_ |
im just aware that what is happening there right now is the unfolding of a global agenda and therefore my concern too |
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| 21:26 |
saschaheylik_ |
all i can do is think about how to prepare for this stuff expanding |
| 21:27 |
iqualfragile |
da du aus östereich zu stammen scheinst können wir uns auch (um den ganzen restlichen channel zu trollen) auf deutsch unterhalten ^^ |
| 21:28 |
NekoGloop |
wtf? |
| 21:28 |
iqualfragile |
german |
| 21:28 |
sfan5 |
ja klar, ich versteg deutsch aucg |
| 21:28 |
sfan5 |
-g +h |
| 21:28 |
iqualfragile |
na los, kommt raus! wer schließt sich mit an? |
| 21:29 |
sfan5 |
niemand... |
| 21:29 |
saschaheylik_ |
wir können. |
| 21:29 |
NekoGloop |
ANGLASH |
| 21:30 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: HSALGNA |
| 21:30 |
saschaheylik_ |
du meschugge? |
| 21:30 |
saschaheylik_ |
(u mad?) |
| 21:30 |
NekoGloop |
lolwat |
| 21:30 |
iqualfragile |
ich bilde jetzt einen sinnfreien satz mit nekogloop drinnen, damit er denkt wir würden über ihn lästern wäre es nett wenn ihr mit gelächter antworten würdet |
| 21:30 |
saschaheylik_ |
idk german is weird |
| 21:30 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: tawlol |
| 21:30 |
NekoGloop |
d'aww... |
| 21:30 |
saschaheylik_ |
hahahaha |
| 21:30 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 21:31 |
* NekoGloop |
has no idea what iqualfragile said :3 |
| 21:31 |
iqualfragile |
vielen dank |
| 21:31 |
saschaheylik_ |
extremely ignenious |
| 21:31 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: ...wwa'd 3: |
| 21:31 |
saschaheylik_ |
NekoGloop: no shit? |
| 21:32 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: 3: dias eligarflauqi tahw aedi on sah |
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NekoGloop |
SHUT UP |
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saschaheylik_ |
iqualfragile: u better not tell him about google translate |
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NekoGloop |
I know about google translate. |
| 21:32 |
saschaheylik_ |
oh right youre just lazy then |
| 21:33 |
iqualfragile |
no way, why would i, besides: he cant use it, you are using it allready |
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sfan5 |
NekoGloop: PU THUS |
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NekoGloop |
I dont want to wait 10+ minutes to get a translation |
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saschaheylik_ |
NekoGloop: lol? |
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iqualfragile |
tor? |
| 21:33 |
saschaheylik_ |
so? |
| 21:33 |
saschaheylik_ |
its not nearly THAT slow |
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sfan5 |
NekoGloop: .etalsnart tuoba wonk I |
| 21:35 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: noitalsnart a teg ot setunim +01 tiaw ot tnaw tnod I |
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iqualfragile |
sfan5: wonderfull idea |
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sfan5 |
iqualfragile: aedi llufrednow :5nafs |
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NekoGloop |
sfan5: sfan5: wonderful idea :eligarflauqi |
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NekoGloop |
He's OFF |
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NekoGloop |
Chat died xD |
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RealBadAngel |
updated technic mod if any1 wanna check |
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NekoGloop |
OH |
| 22:54 |
NekoGloop |
MY |
| 22:54 |
NekoGloop |
GOD |
| 22:54 |
NekoGloop |
THE |
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NekoGloop |
CHAT |
| 22:54 |
NekoGloop |
LIVES |
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NekoGloop |
;) |
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RealBadAngel |
lol |
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RealBadAngel |
i think i made cool stuff with my battery boxes |
| 22:55 |
NekoGloop |
ok |
| 22:55 |
NekoGloop |
whatever |
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JamieWill |
Im looking to buy a new PC reasonably cheap byt with good specs mainly for gaming any recommendations? |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
> cheap pc |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
> for gaming |
| 22:57 |
FreeFull |
Psh, buying |
| 22:57 |
FreeFull |
Real men build their own |
| 22:57 |
leo_rockway |
new games require nothing short of your own nuclear substation to run. |
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JamieWill |
LoL ^ |
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JamieWill |
Basic games tho |
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thexyz |
why do you need new games? |
| 22:57 |
thexyz |
they're almost all shit |
| 22:58 |
leo_rockway |
I'd like to play Max Payne 3 |
| 22:58 |
JamieWill |
I know its a new PC im wanting! |
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* JamieWill |
thinks you didnt read it right |
| 22:58 |
FreeFull |
My laptop plays Minetest and Warsow just fine |
| 22:58 |
thexyz |
what's your current specs? |
| 22:59 |
JamieWill |
Yes but I want a PC with decent CPU |
| 22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/batterybox.png |
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JamieWill |
Well ill keep that to my self |
| 22:59 |
JamieWill |
mainly cuz i cba hecking |
| 23:00 |
NekoGloop |
Only "new" game that isnt shit: Minetest |
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JamieWill |
lol ^ |
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* JamieWill |
thinks NekoGloop is correct! |
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JamieWill |
Processor: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N455 @1.66GHz 1.67GHz |
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thexyz |
i was talking about AAA games, of course |
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JamieWill |
Installed memory (RAM): 1.00 GB |
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JamieWill |
System type: 32-bit |
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JamieWill |
Now do u see why i want a PC that is new? |
| 23:06 |
JamieWill |
Its a load of SHIT! |
| 23:06 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 23:07 |
thexyz |
now VanessaE should suddenly appear |
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thexyz |
and tell you something about spectrums/etc |
| 23:07 |
NekoGloop |
RealBadAngel: That seems neat. |
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JamieWill |
lol |
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* JamieWill |
thinks VanessaE is AFK |
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thexyz |
btw, what games do you want to play? |
| 23:12 |
NakedFury |
planetside 2 |
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NakedFury |
actually I wish more games were open source |
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* VanessaE |
suddenly appears |
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VanessaE |
(however I have nothing of particular importance to say :D ) |
| 23:19 |
NakedFury |
start a new conversation? |
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VanessaE |
NakedFury: I was referring to thexyz's comment about spectrum/etc |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
lol |
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leo_rockway |
C64! |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
C64, of course yes. |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
N64! |
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leo_rockway |
NakedFury: Doom3 was freed. |
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VanessaE |
Spectrum indeed. blasphemer. :-) |
| 23:33 |
leo_rockway |
well, engine... |
| 23:35 |
NakedFury |
I saw that leo |
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| 23:41 |
leo_rockway |
and there's always Minetest |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
of course. |
| 23:42 |
leo_rockway |
I want proper mobs! D: |
| 23:42 |
leo_rockway |
I'll give a hug to whoever codes proper mobs o.o |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
I get enough hugs, thank you ;) |
| 23:54 |
leo_rockway |
mobs and lower CPU usage. Who wants a hug? |
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leo_rockway |
anyway, time to go home |
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Madchicken13 |
Hello? |
| 23:56 |
Madchicken13 |
Anyone here? |
| 23:59 |
NakedFury |
hi |
