Time Nick Message 00:00 * VanessaE offers all some "polar ice" sugar free gum 00:00 * NekoGloop refuses 00:02 NekoGloop_ >.> 00:02 NekoGloop_ damn you webchat 00:05 NekoGloop_ FINALLY 00:12 * OldCoder accepts sugar free virtual gump 00:13 OldCoder Ha 00:13 OldCoder gump gum gimp 00:13 * OldCoder want sugar free GIMP 00:15 VanessaE OldCoder: well technically there are two sugar-free gimps in this house :-) 00:15 VanessaE (going by the definition that gimp = disabled) 00:15 OldCoder Ha 00:15 OldCoder VanessaE, I got it :-) 00:15 OldCoder VanessaE, I have spent type in similar circumstances 00:15 OldCoder *time 00:15 OldCoder Weird typos 00:16 NekoGloop Anyone here? :P 00:16 VanessaE no :-) 00:16 VanessaE NekoGloop: I think it's time for you to find a new IRC client :-) 00:17 NekoGloop Why? 00:17 VanessaE because you're always losing your connection? :-) 00:17 NekoGloop I went to my ipad 00:17 VanessaE oh ok 00:17 NekoGloop Am on ipad nows 00:17 NekoGloop Now* 00:17 * OldCoder read that as ipad snow 00:17 OldCoder An interesting concept 00:18 NekoGloop Lol 00:29 * JamieWill AFFK 00:29 * JamieWill AFK 00:30 JamieWill Befor i go my post has had 500 views yay me :) 00:30 OldCoder Hooray 00:30 NekoGloop Kewl 00:30 JamieWill first time really on the forums 00:31 JamieWill apart from on other 00:40 NekoGloop Meow~? 00:42 OldCoder Yes? 00:42 * NekoGloop wants to be petted :3 00:45 * OldCoder pets NekoGloop very carefully 00:46 * NekoGloop purrs slightly :3 00:52 NekoGloop Someone needs to make a mesecons computer that uses like 5 chunks :3 00:52 VanessaE someone will I'm sure 00:53 VanessaE with those microcontrollers it won't take much 00:53 VanessaE especially if you can cram enough code into them :-) 00:53 keegan hey m making my first mod!! :))) 01:04 OldCoder keegan, Oh? 01:05 NekoGloop Mind sharing some more information? 01:05 _2cool4me4_ Guess what guys!?!?! 01:06 _2cool4me4_ Anyone? 01:06 NakedFury what 01:06 _2cool4me4_ I made a very primitive ALU 01:07 NakedFury with mese? 01:07 _2cool4me4_ Yup 01:07 NekoGloop Kewl 01:07 _2cool4me4_ 2 bit, 1 function, ~3 second clock speed. :/ 01:07 NekoGloop Make a vid and share with the world 01:08 _2cool4me4_ I can't make a video right now 01:08 NekoGloop Then share your map 01:08 _2cool4me4_ DCC? 01:09 NakedFury what can it do in game? 01:09 NekoGloop Zip it and upload it to some file sharing site 01:09 _2cool4me4_ It's a 0.4.2 rc1 map 01:10 NekoGloop ... And? 01:10 _2cool4me4_ Jus' saying 01:10 Madchicken13 hello? 01:10 NekoGloop Latest version of mesecons requires 0.4.2-rc1, right? 01:11 _2cool4me4_ Yep 01:11 Madchicken13 can you still download mesecons for minetest 0.4.1? 01:11 NekoGloop Nope 01:11 Madchicken13 ok 01:11 NekoGloop I could upload the one that works, if i really wanted to 01:11 Madchicken13 and can someone help me? 01:11 NekoGloop But i dont, and i'm kinda on my ipad 01:12 Madchicken13 can you code neko 01:13 Madchicken13 hello? 01:13 _2cool4me4_ http://www.mediafire.com/?v3jbb65cdnuyp5b 01:13 NekoGloop Sort of 01:13 _2cool4me4_ Mesecons World 01:13 Madchicken13 can you help me? 01:13 NekoGloop I'm on my ipad and multitasking with youtube. 01:13 NekoGloop Oh, sure, why not? 01:15 _2cool4me4_ lol 01:15 Madchicken13 ok well im just wondering if its possible to code my mod to where you can set the warps with a command instead of intering the coordantes into the init.lua of the mod 01:16 _2cool4me4_ That's an interesting though 01:16 NekoGloop I cannot help with that but maybe you could reference the default teleporting procedures? 01:17 Madchicken13 what is the name aof that mod? 01:17 _2cool4me4_ If the clock speed of my thing is 3 seconds, think of the clock of a 32 bit full computer! 01:18 NekoGloop I have no idea 01:18 NakedFury what do you do in game with the ALU? 01:18 NekoGloop Just know that on the server you griefed there was teleporting 01:18 _2cool4me4_ You click on a button to set it to on, or 1 01:18 Madchicken13 o you mean the teleporting mod? 01:18 _2cool4me4_ *actually it's a switch* 01:19 Madchicken13 ok ill work with trail and error 01:19 _2cool4me4_ That's always a good way. 01:22 _2cool4me4_ So do you like my ALU? 01:22 NekoGloop I'm on my ipad, cant download 01:22 _2cool4me4_ ugh 01:23 _2cool4me4_ Wish I could figure out how to compile the C++ code for Android 01:23 NekoGloop Lolni 01:24 NekoGloop Still would need to be both for an ipad, and me jailbreaking this thing. 01:24 _2cool4me4_ yup 01:29 NakedFury you havent done that to the ipad already? 01:31 NekoGloop Nope 01:34 NekoGloop Meow~ 01:35 _2cool4me4_ :-S 01:35 * NekoGloop wants to be petted :3 01:36 * _2cool4me4_ runs again 01:36 * NekoGloop pouts :( 01:37 * vicscandl runs out for beer and smokes... 01:37 * NekoGloop is still pouting because noone will pet me :( 01:38 * _2cool4me4_ shows this face:http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg 01:40 NekoGloop Uh lol put a space between the link and the colon 01:40 _2cool4me4_ IceChat always does that :/ 01:40 NekoGloop Then fix it? 01:40 _2cool4me4_ oh wait, sorry 01:40 * _2cool4me4_ shows this face: http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets -s328x328-303070-535.jpg 01:41 NekoGloop Now you broke the link in parts 01:42 _2cool4me4_ Stupid client 01:42 * _2cool4me4_ shows this face: shows this face:http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg 01:42 _2cool4me4_ FFFF 01:42 NekoGloop Get on the webchat 01:43 _2cool4me4_ http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_ a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg 01:43 _2cool4me4_ FUFDIOS:DGJKL:SIERUJFIGUISHDFKJCDCVHJNE#R@#^Y&%^ 01:43 VanessaE you suck :-) 01:43 NekoGloop DUD 01:43 NekoGloop DUDE* 01:43 _2cool4me4_ http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-30 3070-535.jpg 01:43 _2cool4me4_ ugh 01:43 NekoGloop GET ON THE FREAKIN WEBCHAT 01:43 _2cool4me4_ NEVAR 01:43 _2cool4me4_ http://files.sharenator.com/cuteness_overload_cute_rage_face_meme_poster_ra1f19b5672974abea74fd85c0ff37764_a21y_328_Post_Your_Pets-s328x328-303070-535.jpg 01:43 NekoGloop http://webchat.freenode.net/ 01:43 _2cool4me4_ YESH 01:44 _2cool4me4_ I GOTS IT 01:44 NekoGloop And now it's so freakin late i forgot what we were talking about. 01:44 _2cool4me4_ NOUUOUUUUU 01:44 * khonkhortisan is back: VACATION 01:44 khonkhortisan and you're still here 01:45 _2cool4me4_ I Am going to go get my tablet on here 01:45 * NekoGloop is back: CREEPYPASTA 01:45 * _2cool4me4_ is scared 01:45 khonkhortisan I missed the mesecon nodebox commit 01:45 NekoGloop NEW MOD IDEA: HEROBRINE!!!!!! 01:45 NakedFury no 01:46 khonkhortisan so you'll have a green mob running around? 01:46 NekoGloop Lolno 01:46 NakedFury complete crap idea 01:46 NekoGloop No, depends on how far you take it 01:46 NakedFury go back to the drawing board with that idea 01:46 _2cool4me4_ I have 5 minutes to wait until this upload is finnish 01:47 NekoGloop One 'mob' with the ability to dig tunnels, kill the player, and intelligently mobilize? 01:47 _2cool4me4_ noes 01:47 NakedFury like that yes, called herobrine no 01:47 NakedFury BUT 01:47 NakedFury it can't know where the player is 01:48 _2cool4me4_ http://www.mediafire.com/?v3jbb65cdnuyp5b 01:48 NakedFury we cant have homing missile type mobs 01:48 khonkhortisan no fun if there were 01:48 NekoGloop I dont even know how to make an entity that destroys itself instantly 01:48 _2cool4me4_ *beep beep beep BEEPBEEPBEEP* 01:48 _2cool4me4_ OH * 01:49 khonkhortisan look at particles, I used it to sort of make rain 01:49 _2cool4me4_ can anyone actually access Minetest right now? 01:49 NakedFury that was an example. what I meant to say is not make a monster that knows where you are and instatly goes towards you like a missile 01:49 khonkhortisan it has to see you first 01:49 NekoGloop Or see something you made, and take it for its own 01:50 NekoGloop Give it its own inventory, allow it to build 01:50 _2cool4me4_ Are you kidding? 01:50 NekoGloop Nopw 01:50 NakedFury " it has to see you first" BUT it would need a limit to how far it can see. we dont want it to see 1k meters 01:51 NakedFury neko scrap that unless you want to spend months making AI that can build 01:51 _2cool4me4_ If the land isn't loaded over there, you have no worries 01:51 NakedFury be happy with it mining 2x2 tunnels 01:51 NakedFury 1x2 tunnels 01:51 VanessaE NakedFury: "Workers" mod -> AI that can build. 01:51 VanessaE dunno how it works, but there you go. 01:51 NekoGloop I cant make an entity destroy itself >.> 01:52 _2cool4me4_ google 01:52 NekoGloop Bing 01:52 _2cool4me4_ NUUU GOOGLE 01:53 NekoGloop Nuuu bing 01:53 NakedFury omg I just noticed all damn topics in Texture pack have the fucking word Texture pack in it! 01:53 NakedFury isnt it obvious its a texture pack? 01:53 _2cool4me4_ no 01:53 NekoGloop Lol 01:53 khonkhortisan that mesecons map doesn't do much 01:54 _2cool4me4_ It's a 2 bit 1 function apu 01:54 _2cool4me4_ First one made 01:54 NekoGloop You probably have to go hunt for the comouter 01:54 NekoGloop Computer* 01:54 _2cool4me4_ Not if you're Singleplayer 01:54 NakedFury what does it do? 01:54 _2cool4me4_ It adds ones 01:55 khonkhortisan two buttons, 3 digit binary output 01:55 NakedFury how could that help me survive? 01:55 _2cool4me4_ Who the crap cares 01:55 khonkhortisan how many mobs are outside my door? 1, 2, more than 2 01:55 NakedFury exactly? who the crap cares if it server no purpose at all to the game 01:55 _2cool4me4_ It's the first one ever made in minetest, okay? 01:56 khonkhortisan so I can program minetest without lua 01:56 NekoGloop Lol 01:56 _2cool4me4_ *palmface* 01:56 NekoGloop You can do that with microcontrollers 01:58 _2cool4me4_ Are you actually at the ALU yet? 01:58 _2cool4me4_ It's at 29.4, 2.5, 132.1 02:00 _2cool4me4_ And the part marked "main bus" is actually the output bus 02:03 * VanessaE looks at the ALU 02:03 _2cool4me4_ cool 02:04 VanessaE "Fancy-ish" mesecons? :P 02:04 _2cool4me4_ Yep 02:04 VanessaE they're "FANCY!!" mesecons damn it :-) 02:04 _2cool4me4_ I see how it is 02:04 _2cool4me4_ But there's only the 5 microcontrollers 02:05 VanessaE looks good 02:05 _2cool4me4_ Thanks 02:05 _2cool4me4_ What's your clock speed from it? 02:05 VanessaE see, I knew these nodebox-based mesecons wires would work out well 02:06 _2cool4me4_ huh 02:06 NekoGloop The changes are still only visual 02:06 _2cool4me4_ but how long does it take to give a result 02:06 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: a fraction of a second. 02:06 _2cool4me4_ really? 02:06 VanessaE *nod* 02:06 _2cool4me4_ how fast is your pc? 02:07 NekoGloop Need to have working vertical mesecons ;) 02:07 VanessaE well sometimes it's a fraction of a second, sometimes not 02:07 VanessaE (sometimes a second or so) 02:07 _2cool4me4_ yup, there are some messy wires in the back 02:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: already talked to jeija about it. it's possible, but non-trivial. 02:07 _2cool4me4_ THe main bus is rather messy 02:07 _2cool4me4_ er, output bus 02:08 NekoGloop Cant you just check for a signal on ALL the sides of the wire? 02:08 _2cool4me4_ That's the problem 02:08 NekoGloop Save visualising the change for later 02:09 VanessaE hm. I think I need to brighten up the "on" mesecons a bit. 02:09 _2cool4me4_ I have to put the data lines quite a ways away from each other 02:09 _2cool4me4_ BUt this is just the beginning. 02:09 NekoGloop I'm pretty sure, that were i on my computer atm i'd be able to whip up some vertical mesecons code 02:09 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: you only have to keep them one block apart. 02:09 VanessaE W_W_W_W where _ is an empty space 02:10 VanessaE (what you have now is normal) 02:10 _2cool4me4_ If I can get the real workings of a computer down, I may be able to make a minetest computer! 02:10 khonkhortisan W_W 02:10 khonkhortisan ___ 02:10 khonkhortisan W_W 02:10 _2cool4me4_ I'll be right back 02:10 * NekoGloop pushes the red button 02:10 NekoGloop Couldnt resist 02:10 khonkhortisan curiosity killed the cat 02:11 NekoGloop And i'm the cat :3 02:11 VanessaE Not the WED ONE! DON'T EVER PUSH THE WED ONE! 02:11 VanessaE (WED -> RED in elmer fudd voice) 02:11 khonkhortisan hehehehehehehehehe 02:11 * NekoGloop places a finger on vanessae's forehead and pushes as if there were a button there 02:11 khonkhortisan you have fingers! 02:11 VanessaE heh 02:11 NekoGloop Of course i do 02:12 NekoGloop I'm a neko 02:12 NekoGloop At least i had my claws retracted :3 02:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: I would suggest though, to move the output lights to the left if you can, maybe just above the input switches 02:12 NekoGloop Uhm... What? 02:12 VanessaE (btw you can use wall levers for a more fancy look) 02:12 VanessaE ER, not neko 02:12 NekoGloop Uh.., not my alu lol 02:12 VanessaE shit 02:13 VanessaE 2cool left 02:13 NekoGloop He left lol 02:13 BackupCoder who left? 02:13 NekoGloop You did 02:13 BackupCoder no 02:13 VanessaE _2cool4me4_ 02:13 BackupCoder crash 02:13 NekoGloop Yeah, you did :3 02:13 VanessaE OH 02:13 BackupCoder bbs 02:13 BackupCoder this is laptop #2 02:13 NekoGloop OldCoder left the room. (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02:14 BackupCoder i am his ghost 02:14 BackupCoder boo 02:14 NekoGloop Lol 02:14 * NekoGloop hides 02:14 NekoGloop G-g-g-ghost? 02:14 khonkhortisan you're the fail-over 02:15 BackupCoder y 02:15 BackupCoder never be w/o bckups 02:15 sdzen agreed 02:15 * khonkhortisan hasn't learned that yet 02:15 sdzen I just did 02:15 NekoGloop Lol 02:16 NekoGloop Double accounting is a bannable offense. ;) (not really) 02:16 OldCoder Back! 02:16 OldCoder BackupCoder, Thank you for helping 02:16 NekoGloop Lol 02:16 BackupCoder ur welcome 02:17 khonkhortisan okay that's just weird 02:17 NekoGloop I do that sometimes 02:17 BackupCoder im glad to be f service 02:19 NekoGloop Is it normal for only the creepy songs to disappear from my youtube viewing history 02:20 VanessaE hm, I should also remove the junction bumps from where wires band X<->Z 02:20 NekoGloop No, that looks fine 02:20 VanessaE it's inconsistent with the behavior of a normal schematic :-) 02:20 khonkhortisan woohoo! on_timer doesn't use block position anymore! 02:23 * NekoGloop kicks khonkhortisan randomly 02:26 BackupCoder cat is violent 02:27 * VanessaE tweaks some mesecons a bit. 02:27 BackupCoder how does a cat kick neway 02:27 _2cool4me4_ I'm back! 02:27 NekoGloop Neko. Neko == catboy/girl 02:27 VanessaE _2cool4me4_: you should move the output lights to the left so they can be seen easily from where the control switches are. 02:27 VanessaE also use wall levers instead of switches. they look cooler :-) 02:28 NekoGloop And vanessae tryed to give me credit for it when i've not even seen ot yet. 02:28 NekoGloop It* 02:28 khonkhortisan is there some kind of move_node that I can use instead of add_node and remove_node? 02:28 BackupCoder nekoboy or nekogirl ok 02:28 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 02:28 _2cool4me4_ Stupid tab 02:29 VanessaE yeah yeah I got mixed up :-) 02:31 _2cool4me4_ Sorry guys 02:32 NekoGloop ... 02:33 NekoGloop If he's sorry wouldnt he just leave? 02:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, logic is not clear 02:34 VanessaE there, slimmed down the junction bumps, and no more junction bumps on simple X/Z bends now. 02:34 NekoGloop local logic = 0 02:34 VanessaE (if anyone wants, pull from https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons ) 02:35 VanessaE or for neko, s/pull/download the ZIPball/ 02:35 NekoGloop Or i can just download it later, since i have a shitload of github pages bookmarked on my computer 02:36 VanessaE ok :-) 02:36 VanessaE the wires look less "fat" now without all the excess junction bumps :-) 02:36 NekoGloop But i like the fat wires 02:37 VanessaE so comment out line 90 in mesecons/wires.lua 02:37 VanessaE :-) 02:37 NekoGloop Lol 02:38 VanessaE well, no. just change it to "nobump=4" :-) 02:38 keegan is anyone good with mods? 02:38 NekoGloop Anyone else seen the enderman attack in real life video? Anyone else not jump at the end? 02:39 keegan can someone help me with my mod 02:39 VanessaE what mod, what help? 02:39 keegan ruby i made iit 02:39 keegan my first mod 02:39 VanessaE ruby? minetest mods are written only in lua 02:40 keegan yes 02:40 VanessaE or you mean the gem I guess :-) 02:40 NekoGloop He probably means ruby ores 02:40 keegan yes 02:41 keegan but it doesnt create the image ingame 02:41 VanessaE keegan: does your ore texture file have a transparency ? 02:41 VanessaE ("alpha channel" it's called) 02:41 keegan yes 02:42 VanessaE so it doesn't create the image - you mean the new ore doesn't spawn? 02:42 VanessaE or it spawns but looks like stone? 02:42 NekoGloop Look at the generate_ore code 02:42 keegan it cant run the mod 02:43 NekoGloop Ok... Did you remember to put commas where they belong? 02:43 keegan lke the picture dont match up 02:43 VanessaE ok, pastebin the errors 02:44 VanessaE go here: pastebin.com and copy the error text from your terminal where you start minetest from, paste it on the web site, and submit it, then give us the address of the page that comes back 02:44 NekoGloop You cant copy from a cmd window 02:44 VanessaE I think he runs linux. 02:45 VanessaE and besides, you can load debux.txt into wordpad or so and copy&paste from that :-) 02:45 NekoGloop I dont think so 02:45 NekoGloop debug.txt* 02:47 VanessaE [08-12 09:42] my server laptop never had win7 it was a trail so i unistall win 7 and installed ubuntu 02:47 OldCoder About that... 02:48 OldCoder He found somebody a day or two back; one of the mod writers here. That person helped him install Ubuntu. 02:48 OldCoder But my understanding is that the install didn't work. 02:48 OldCoder They may have tried again. 02:49 VanessaE *shrug* 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_axe.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_block.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_in_ground.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_pick.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_ruby.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "rubies_sword.png" 02:50 NekoGloop Wutevah 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_in_ground.png" while building texture 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_in_ground.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_block.png" while building texture 02:50 VanessaE NOT HERE!!! 02:50 keegan 22:49:45: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_block.png" 02:50 keegan Unsupported texture format 02:50 NekoGloop OH GOD NOW 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_axe.png" while building texture 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_axe.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_pick.png" while building texture 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_pick.png" 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_ruby.png" while building texture 02:50 VanessaE STOP! 02:50 NekoGloop SEE WHAT YOU DID VANESSAE 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_ruby.png" 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "rubies_sword.png" while building texture 02:50 keegan 22:49:48: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "rubies_sword.png" 02:50 keegan Loaded texture: C:/Users/Joyce/Documents/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32/textures/base/pack/sunrisebg.png 02:50 keegan opp 02:50 keegan opps 02:50 keegan wrong thing 02:51 NekoGloop YOU TRIED TO HELP THE IMBECILE 02:51 VanessaE keegan I said paste on pastebin.com 02:51 keegan have it open and i paste t in the wrong thing 02:51 VanessaE well too late now 02:51 VanessaE but the issue is obvious: your textures aren't where the game can find them 02:51 VanessaE they should be in yourmod/textures 02:52 VanessaE so like ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/yourmod/textures/rubies_ruby.png 02:52 keegan they are 02:52 VanessaE or celeron55-minetest-blahblah/mods/minetest/yourmod/textures/rubies_ruby.png if you're using the run-in-place version 02:53 VanessaE keegan: they probably aren't or they'd be loaded - are the filenames correct? 02:53 keegan yes im pretty sure 02:53 VanessaE ok, 02:54 VanessaE in a terminal, and ONLY IN A TERMINAL :-) type this: find ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/yourmod 02:54 VanessaE (yourmod = rubies or whatever) 02:54 VanessaE copy the results. 02:54 NekoGloop Your modname needs to be the first thing in the name of the image 02:54 VanessaE then ON PASTEBIN :-) paste the text 02:54 VanessaE NekoGloop: actually no, but that is the convention. 02:55 NekoGloop Actually yes 02:55 NekoGloop I've tried 02:55 VanessaE so have I :-) 02:55 NekoGloop At least in windows protocols 02:55 keegan i still have the mod on my windows laptop 02:55 VanessaE keegan: ok, upload it somewhere 02:56 VanessaE so one of us can download it and poke around 02:56 NekoGloop sendshare 02:56 VanessaE dropbox, ompldr, etc. 02:56 keegan mediafire? 02:56 VanessaE anywhere that doesn't make you sign up, use a capthca, etc. 02:56 NekoGloop Or even github, if you dont care about people being able to change it. 02:57 VanessaE doesn't mediafire require you to wait several seconds to download? 02:57 keegan idk 02:57 VanessaE ok 02:57 NekoGloop It requires you repair your download 7-14 times before you can download 02:57 VanessaE NekoGloop: "repair"? 02:57 NekoGloop Yup 02:58 NekoGloop Since that's not actually possible, mediafire just makes you wait. 02:58 VanessaE oh 02:58 VanessaE that's where _2cool uploaded his world file 02:58 VanessaE I was able to download that in one try 02:58 NekoGloop Well i can never get so lucky 02:58 VanessaE NekoGloop: stop using IE :-) 02:59 NekoGloop Neverrrrrr 02:59 VanessaE firefox + adblockplus = the web is sane again 02:59 * NekoGloop kicks vanessae 02:59 NekoGloop Neverrrrrr 03:00 VanessaE heh 03:00 keegan http://www.mediafire.com/?4b2aefmg6ys4u2k 03:00 VanessaE NekoGloop: honest question: how much more will you put up with from IE before you give up on it? 03:00 NekoGloop I will never give up 03:00 VanessaE keegan: got it 03:00 VanessaE (again, in one try) 03:01 NekoGloop My friend has chrome. I hate having to use his computer 03:01 keegan why 03:02 VanessaE keegan: first note: tile_images = is obsolete. use tiles= 03:02 keegan ok 03:03 VanessaE besides that, this actually looks okay 03:03 VanessaE are you sure you're copying the folder as a whole into ~/.minetest/mods/minetest ? 03:04 keegan yes 03:04 VanessaE wait, 03:04 VanessaE you only have inventory_image for your tools 03:04 VanessaE don't you also need wield_image for that? 03:05 NekoGloop I dont use it... I dont think... 03:05 VanessaE also, 03:05 VanessaE are 03:05 VanessaE oops 03:06 VanessaE AH! 03:06 VanessaE these are NOT png images 03:06 VanessaE they are GIMP XCF images with the wrong filename extension 03:06 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ file work/rubies/textures/rubies_in_ground.png 03:06 VanessaE work/rubies/textures/rubies_in_ground.png: GIMP XCF image data, version 0, 16 x 16, RGB Color 03:06 VanessaE that's your problem 03:06 NekoGloop Lol 03:07 VanessaE You must be using GIMP 2.8. you need to EXPORT them, not Save. 03:07 keegan ok 03:07 tripod yay wicked@linux 03:07 VanessaE you must be -> it looks like you are using. 03:07 VanessaE (2.8 is not a requirement, sorry for the bad wording) 03:07 keegan ok 03:09 keegan so export them? 03:10 VanessaE yes 03:10 VanessaE just overwrite the original .png file and it will really be a PNG this time 03:10 NekoGloop G'night 03:10 VanessaE do that for all the images 03:10 VanessaE night NekoGloop 03:10 * VanessaE scritches NekoGloop's ears 03:10 * NekoGloop purrs :3 03:11 VanessaE keegan: you're not the first to get bit by that change - it's gotta be one of the most braindead things an open source team can do. 03:12 keegan how do i overwrite them? 03:12 VanessaE just save over them with the same filename.png 03:12 VanessaE it'll ask if you meant to overwrite 03:12 VanessaE just say ok 03:13 vicscandl ok 03:15 VanessaE hey vicscandl. 03:15 vicscandl VanessaE: its been that way for the GIF format for years... i beleive the export vs save is a licencing issue... save being internal code, export being pushed thru an external lib for output. 03:16 vicscandl would not supprise me to see other formats go that way, but save/export... wtf you asshats 03:16 VanessaE vicscandl: no, it's because the GIMP team wants to make GIMP to default ot saving files as if they're projects instead of images. 03:16 VanessaE so "export" for *all* image formats. 03:16 VanessaE besides, GIF patents have long since expired. 03:17 vicscandl VanessaE: must be a windows thing... double checking my ver 03:17 VanessaE no it does it on linux too, and only since 2.8 03:17 VanessaE and only gimp seems to have gone that route 03:17 VanessaE it's a moronic, confusing decision that costs the artist precious time 03:18 vicscandl VanessaE: well i'm still pushing 2.6 on this box... 03:18 vicscandl VanessaE: just means i gotta update my hotkeys.. :) 03:18 VanessaE I should be able to hit a key, "export" and it should just fucking export over what I loaded without fucking asking me questions. 03:19 VanessaE just like "save" used to. 03:19 vicscandl VanessaE: wrote a phatch action set that will take all my xcf/pcx files and run out a full conversion dropping 20% in size each loop 03:19 VanessaE none of this "export acts like the old save-as the first time you use it, and acts like the old save after that" 03:20 vicscandl so i've been saving in defaul format for like 2 years now and export my needs.... 03:20 keegan now my other mod that i change from someones mod to see f t works 03:20 keegan t loads errors 03:20 VanessaE paste them ON PASTEBIN :-) 03:20 vicscandl VanessaE: $10 says he don't know pastebin 03:21 keegan anything else than pastebin 03:21 * vicscandl is waiting for channel codeflood from keeg 03:21 NakedFury keegan use www.pastebin.com to paste over those huge ass error files 03:21 VanessaE he better, I told him 40 minutyes ago :-) 03:21 VanessaE -y 03:21 vicscandl s/yes/es/ 03:22 vicscandl off to update gimpy to 2.8 03:22 VanessaE don't 03:22 VanessaE you'll hate it. 03:22 khonkhortisan you have to export everything, save saves as xcf 03:22 VanessaE another utterly moronic change they made: 03:23 keegan paste it in here 03:23 VanessaE NO! 03:23 keegan jk 03:23 khonkhortisan I like the single window mode, but it breaks the close button. I want to close gimp, not the image 03:23 VanessaE the text tool now types onto the canvas instead of a separate editor window, but there's this shitty popup that you can't get rid of over the text. 03:23 vicscandl wonder if you can override the keyset in 2.8 like you can from prev versions... 03:23 VanessaE yeah, keyboard shortcuts work fine in 2.8 03:23 vicscandl VanessaE: ug, 03:23 keegan http://pastebin.com/4tJ3hhqE 03:24 vicscandl VanessaE: i hate tghe gimpo textool already 03:24 khonkhortisan I've gotten CONTENT_IGNORE before, but it's been too long, I forgot the cause 03:24 VanessaE keegan: you are either trying to place the object in parts of the map that are not yet loaded, or you're trying to place an item but the name you used is badly formatted, is nil, etc. 03:25 VanessaE vicscandl: it's braindead. 03:25 keegan ok how do i fix it 03:25 khonkhortisan is your mod in mods/lavamese/init.lua? 03:25 VanessaE keegan: I don't know - that depends entirely on your code. This is where normal debugging techniques come into play 03:25 VanessaE look for errors in your code 03:26 khonkhortisan on_timer moving a node is much slower than a luaentity with an acceleration 03:27 keegan at first minute when i first test it and it work and second time it shows the errors 03:28 VanessaE keegan: you probably need minetest.env:get_node_or_nil(position) calls before each item you're spawning. if the function returns nil or "ignore", don't try to place. 03:29 keegan ok 03:29 VanessaE where position is the coordinates of the node you're about to place 03:29 VanessaE (fill in the blank) 03:32 vicscandl http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37531 03:32 vicscandl :P 03:32 khonkhortisan rain: still working on it http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/7771050198/in/photostream/lightbox/ 03:32 VanessaE yet another in a long line of mods that do little more than duplicate the /teleport command. 03:32 vicscandl VanessaE: no, i like how you have to HARD CODE your teleport spots; thats like fucking hawt 03:33 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what is this? 03:33 VanessaE new rain mod? 03:33 khonkhortisan yes, still haven't gotten it to fall right 03:33 vicscandl from forum: "PS: Dont add The Mod To Your Mods Folder Intel Your Coordinates are set /,\" 03:33 VanessaE khonkhortisan: how did you get around the entity limit issue? 03:33 khonkhortisan I'm trying a node with on_timer 03:33 VanessaE ahh 03:34 khonkhortisan bad_command's teleporter mod has you type it into the teleporter like a sign 03:34 vicscandl khonkhortisan: this is codemockery... 03:35 khonkhortisan on_timer only has a resolution of seconds 03:35 VanessaE why not use on_globalstep or whatever it was called? 03:35 VanessaE that has a resolution of 0.05s 03:36 keegan so you want to look at my other mod 03:36 khonkhortisan I'm using that for generating the rain, I'll try that now 03:37 keegan VanessaE you want to look at my other mod? 03:37 VanessaE I'll have to pass on that, keegam 03:37 VanessaE keegan * 03:37 keegan ok 03:38 keegan you lke the rubies? 03:38 VanessaE I'm getting kinda tired, so I'm not in a good state of mind to do any real coding or debugging 03:38 VanessaE I didn't try the mod, just examined the files. Nice idea, but are you sure someone else hasn't already done a mod like this? 03:38 Basstard` VanessaE: Do some unreal coding or debugging. 03:38 * vicscandl passes VanessaE a large plate of bacon... 03:38 keegan i dont think anyone did this mod 03:39 VanessaE vicscandl: too late, I just ate meatlovers pizza :-) 03:39 vicscandl keegan: what mod is that? 03:39 VanessaE keegan: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=527 03:39 vicscandl VanessaE: i made a bbq chicken pizza today. :) 03:39 VanessaE contains rubies, ruby blocks, ruby tools 03:39 vicscandl oooooooooooooooo lemme go look now! 03:39 VanessaE it's an old mod, may not be any good anymore, but there you go. 03:40 keegan shoot shouldve look first 03:40 keegan :( 03:40 VanessaE keegan: it's ok, just change your mod to make some other kind of gem/ore/etc/ 03:40 VanessaE there's always room for another new ore, but forget about making tools 03:41 VanessaE we have enough variants of picks/swords/etc. 03:41 VanessaE make something entirely new 03:41 keegan last edited 2-1-12 03:41 Basstard` 2112 03:41 vicscandl mmmmmmm rush 03:41 khonkhortisan make a car that is lethal when you crash 03:41 * VanessaE hums Tom Sawyer 03:41 vicscandl going to the LA show in nov. have seats in front of the soundboard! woot! 03:41 keegan what mod should i do? 03:42 khonkhortisan don't go deaf 03:42 Basstard` Do a Rush mod. 03:42 VanessaE keegan: try to think of something uniqur 03:42 VanessaE unique* 03:42 vicscandl i'm with Basstard`, total rush mod 03:42 NakedFury ill dig it 03:43 keegan a gameboy 03:45 Basstard` Periodic table. 03:46 keegan or a compass 03:47 Basstard` You'll probably do a cumpass instead. 03:48 keegan vicscandl testing my 0.3.1 server 03:48 keegan nm my 0.4.1 03:48 VanessaE keegan: I have to say this, and please don't take it wrong - 0.3.1 is dead. 03:48 VanessaE don't use it 03:48 VanessaE :-) 03:48 keegan theres some people 03:49 VanessaE 0.3.1 is considered obsolete by the author and is a dead project. 03:49 VanessaE all development happens in 0.4.x only 03:49 Basstard` All development happens tomorrow. 03:49 keegan i know what to make a fridge 03:50 VanessaE good idea 03:50 keegan is there a fridge mod if not itMINE 03:50 VanessaE I am not aware of such 03:50 keegan yay 03:50 khonkhortisan you'll have to depend on some kind of extra food mod 03:50 VanessaE but you would need to create foods to put into it 03:50 keegan yea 03:50 VanessaE something that will "spoil" if just stored unrefridgerated 03:51 khonkhortisan moldy stuff can remove health 03:51 VanessaE (i.e. if stored in a chest or held in inventory more than a few game days) 03:51 VanessaE khonkhortisan: unless it's *just* the right kind of mold, then it can improve health :-) 03:51 VanessaE (read: penicillin) 03:52 keegan gonna do a microwave too 03:52 khonkhortisan It can have a random chance of moulding a different way 03:52 VanessaE a microwave might be kinda pointless honestky 03:52 VanessaE honestly* 03:52 keegan yea 03:52 khonkhortisan like a tree compared to an apple tree, a bad moldy apple compared to a good moldy apple 03:53 VanessaE we already have a furnace, and at least an electric furnace coming soon 03:53 keegan gas 03:53 VanessaE NakedFury still needs to take RealBadAngel's wires code and apply it to my pipeworks so he can make his natural gas mod 03:53 * VanessaE pokes at NakedFury 03:54 * VanessaE pokes at RealBadAngel 03:54 VanessaE RBA's wire placement algorithm + Nakedfury's coding ideas + sfan5's oil mod + my pipeworks + my vessels = natural gas mod :-) 03:54 * Basstard` pokes VanessaE's natural gas 03:55 keegan mini flags 03:55 * VanessaE farts in Basstard`'s general direction. 03:55 VanessaE son of a windowasher. 03:55 khonkhortisan the hampster smells like elderberries 03:55 vicscandl aw fuck, here comes the montyfuness! 03:55 keegan flags and flag posts 03:56 VanessaE khonkhortisan: NONONO! his mother is a hamster and his father smells of elderberries 03:56 VanessaE keegan: already been done 03:56 keegan damn 03:56 vicscandl do we *dare* discuss swallow flight speeds? 03:56 khonkhortisan I knew that 03:56 khonkhortisan are they tied together? 03:56 VanessaE vicscandl: laden or unladen? 03:56 * vicscandl rummages around for his damed coconuts..... 03:56 khonkhortisan african or european? 03:56 vicscandl .... but if the swallow was *tied* to the coconut.... 03:57 khonkhortisan and coconuts are tropical. 03:57 vicscandl keegan: hook me up with some interact on your server? 03:57 keegan palm trees!! with cocnuts 03:57 VanessaE keegan: already been done. 03:57 khonkhortisan yes!!! 03:57 khonkhortisan aw 03:57 keegan damn' 03:57 VanessaE palm trees have anyway 03:57 keegan slow down people 03:57 VanessaE (I don't think they bear coconuts) 03:58 vicscandl i'm so going to make a coconut mod that sounds like a horse when you walk with a split one. 03:58 sdzen haha 03:58 khonkhortisan how do you split one? 03:58 sdzen please only if you have some killer rabbits 03:58 khonkhortisan craft it? 03:58 VanessaE khonkhortisan: step one, get a sledgehammer. step 2, forget splitting it, just smash the fucking thing :-) 03:58 khonkhortisan you need two halves 03:58 vicscandl sdzen: you think i would leave ANYTHING out? 03:59 khonkhortisan monty python mod +1 03:59 Basstard` Do we allow a swallow to wallow? 03:59 keegan vicscandl granted 04:00 keegan a desk!! 04:00 VanessaE keegan: already been done. 04:00 keegan damn! 04:00 VanessaE (see Homedecor :-) ) 04:00 VanessaE (and also 3dforniture) 04:01 vicscandl keegan: hahahha i forgot my password (was random anyway) can you purge my account 04:02 keegan how do i do that 04:02 khonkhortisan delete 04:02 vicscandl keegan: delete me from the player directory 04:02 keegan ok 04:02 keegan did 04:03 vicscandl dang, nope 04:03 keegan now 04:03 vicscandl bummer, oh well, i should be writing code anyways.. 04:03 keegan no it should work 04:04 vicscandl keegan: nopoe, invalid pass 04:04 vicscandl :) 04:04 vicscandl i fubared it real good! 04:04 keegan what delete everything of yours 04:05 vicscandl keegan: nm, thanks anyways 04:06 keegan ok i thinking for mods anyway' 04:06 keegan chocolate chip cookies 04:07 keegan candle 04:07 keegan cash register 04:08 vicscandl keegan: grant me (asdf) interact? 04:08 keegan ok 04:08 vicscandl thx 04:08 VanessaE candle: dunno, but there are already a few torch mods 04:08 VanessaE chocolate chip cookes: nice idea. 04:08 VanessaE cash register: already been done, to a degree. 04:15 keegan got to go to bed 04:15 keegan good night 04:16 VanessaE night 04:16 keegan ill think of mods 04:18 VanessaE search the forums too 04:18 VanessaE you'll be surpised what does and doesn't exist there 04:18 Basstard` Surpissed. 04:40 vicscandl hrm... on keeg's server, i can't get three furnaces to run at the same time... 04:40 vicscandl {{ note, first time on someone other than my own servers }} 04:42 OldCoder vicscandl, You PM'd me the other day IIRC. I'll be awake about 15 minutes now if there's any open business. 04:43 OldCoder VanessaE, I grow tired these days at this time of the day. It is more difficult to communicate in a linear manner. 04:43 VanessaE OldCoder: it's oka 04:43 vicscandl OldCoder: outside of some ircbashing of newbs, not much today... sunday is for housechores for me 04:43 VanessaE oy, I must be getting tired 04:44 VanessaE my typing is going to hell :-/ 04:44 OldCoder VanessaE, is your typing usually perfect? 04:44 vicscandl i've got to get back to work tomorrow; business partner comes back from holiday. 04:44 OldCoder vicscandl, housechores are Zen 04:44 VanessaE no, but it ain't usually this bad :-) 04:44 vicscandl OldCoder: manual real-space hacking... 04:44 OldCoder VanessaE, It will happen more in the coming years. But I don't see that many errors presently. 04:44 OldCoder vicscandl, Hmm 04:45 vicscandl the older i get, the more typonese creeps in on me. 04:45 OldCoder vicscandl, Reversal of entropy 04:45 VanessaE OldCoder: that's because I spend half as much time correcting my typos as actually typing 04:45 OldCoder vicscandl, that goes into the cool phrases file 04:45 VanessaE (that's part of why I'm sometimes slow to answer) 04:45 OldCoder VanessaE, A sensible thing to do 04:45 OldCoder typonese 04:45 OldCoder Hmm 04:46 OldCoder VanessaE, your typing is good enough probably. So you have... 04:46 OldCoder *drum roll* 04:46 OldCoder typochrondria 04:46 OldCoder Ba-DUM! 04:46 OldCoder 04:46 VanessaE so you're saying I'm a typochondriac? :-) 04:46 OldCoder Indeed 04:46 * OldCoder loves words 04:47 VanessaE my gravestone will read, when I die, "See, I told you can't type." 04:47 OldCoder Fair nuff 04:49 * VanessaE waits patiently for Jeija to show up 04:49 vicscandl apparently this laptop does not have its battery status registerd in the status... no battery low warning on that one 04:49 VanessaE (should be along just about any time now) 04:49 vicscandl fux 04:50 VanessaE vic: no on-battery charge indicator? 04:56 tripod what bold things you be coding? 04:56 tripod kk 04:57 BoldCoder tripod, Tweets 04:57 tripod oh 04:57 BoldCoder Twits 04:57 BoldCoder Whatever those things are called 04:57 BoldCoder :-) 04:57 tripod the bird 04:57 tripod or that stupid 120 character restrict social blogging tool 04:57 BoldCoder Yes, the little bird who loves to Flit and Twit 04:57 tripod kk 04:57 BoldCoder 140 actually; all the room in the world 04:58 tripod oh my mistake 04:58 tripod 20 characters to write 20 characters. 04:58 VanessaE so you use those 140 chars to point to a multi-page blog post :-) 04:59 BoldCoder But of course 04:59 * BoldCoder is all modern 'n' stuff 05:00 vicscandl VanessaE: ususally it tells me.. for some reason it did not. 05:00 VanessaE odd 05:01 vicscandl perhaps actually playing minetest on someone else's server had me bedazzled 05:01 vicscandl perhaps its the beer 05:01 VanessaE one of my other friends used to say, "I hate computers." 05:01 VanessaE and she was a geek 05:01 vicscandl perhaps its my california-alternate-medication 05:01 vicscandl VanessaE: i mutter that daily, shessh... 05:01 VanessaE bahaha 05:20 VanessaE zzz 05:26 RealBadAngel hi 05:26 RealBadAngel a question: 05:26 RealBadAngel srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) 05:26 RealBadAngel i do have a tool here 05:26 VanessaE there he is! 05:26 VanessaE RealBadAngel: /msg 05:26 VanessaE you have a file waiting. 05:26 RealBadAngel how to access its "wear" variable? 05:27 RealBadAngel @VanessaE: thx :) 05:27 VanessaE - get_wear(): returns tool wear (0-65535), 0 for non-tools 05:27 RealBadAngel that works 05:27 VanessaE I presume the tool ID goes inside the parens 05:27 RealBadAngel add_wear(value) doesnt work 05:28 VanessaE huh. 05:28 RealBadAngel im tryin to accces that variable directly 05:28 RealBadAngel api says so: 05:28 RealBadAngel eg. {name="default:pick_wood", count=1, wear=21323, metadata=""} 05:28 RealBadAngel ^ a wooden pick about 1/3 weared out 05:28 RealBadAngel so tryin set_float, pointing it 05:29 RealBadAngel nothing works 05:29 VanessaE maybe it needs a straight integer? 05:29 RealBadAngel tried set_float("wear",value) 05:30 RealBadAngel is there set_int or something? 05:30 vicscandl RealBadAngel: yes 05:30 vicscandl RealBadAngel: yes, set_int/get_int exists 05:30 vicscandl for some reason, people seem to use floats 05:33 RealBadAngel srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) 05:33 RealBadAngel srcstack.set_int("wear",10000) 05:33 RealBadAngel 05:33 RealBadAngel tried that 05:33 RealBadAngel no go 05:33 RealBadAngel checkin first of course if it is a tool 05:34 RealBadAngel get_wear() returns correct value 05:35 khonkhortisan someone asked me to join their server and gave me their lan ip :) 05:35 RealBadAngel lol 05:39 RealBadAngel it keep sayin that "wear" filed doesnt exist at all 05:40 RealBadAngel *field 05:43 RealBadAngel eg. {name="default:pick_wood", count=1, wear=21323, metadata=""} 05:43 RealBadAngel damn, how to index that field??? 05:54 RealBadAngel i think i found solution 05:54 RealBadAngel srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) 05:55 RealBadAngel temp=srcstack:to_table() 05:55 RealBadAngel print (temp["wear"]) 05:55 RealBadAngel returns correct wear value 05:56 BoldCoder RealBadAngel, Didn't hear back from you. But you're welcome to go through your music this week. 05:56 RealBadAngel i will, yesterday i just forgot bout it because of coding :) 05:57 BoldCoder Oh I know the feeling 05:57 RealBadAngel woke up today and finally found a solution i think 05:57 RealBadAngel now just set the vaule in table 05:58 RealBadAngel rewrite srcstack from_table 05:58 RealBadAngel and should work like a charm 05:58 RealBadAngel but as far as i know lua behaviour it gonna kick me in the ass propably lol 06:05 RealBadAngel yeah it did 06:05 RealBadAngel hehehehe 06:09 RealBadAngel damn, lua is pain in the ass, really :) 06:11 jin_xi i kinda like lua ;) 06:12 RealBadAngel hehehe 06:12 RealBadAngel tell me 06:12 jin_xi but then i'm a lisp man at heart 06:12 RealBadAngel i do have table in temp 06:12 RealBadAngel how to write it back to srcstack ? 06:13 jin_xi that table from above? 06:13 RealBadAngel yeah 06:13 RealBadAngel srcstack = inv:get_stack("src", 1) 06:13 RealBadAngel temp=srcstack:to_table() 06:14 RealBadAngel i can modify values inside temp 06:14 RealBadAngel and would like to do reverse now 06:14 jin_xi there is from_table, right? but its just a guess 06:14 RealBadAngel there is 06:14 RealBadAngel question is how the fuck it works... 06:15 RealBadAngel cannot find any example 06:15 jin_xi meta:from_table({ srcstack = temp }) or so? 06:15 jin_xi idk 06:15 RealBadAngel lets try 06:16 Calinou misa pack was updated for MC :o 06:16 VanessaE guess you have to re-port :-) 06:17 Calinou none of the "basic" blocks have been changed though... 06:17 BoldCoder Zzz 06:17 Calinou lol 06:17 RealBadAngel crashes the game nicely ;) 06:18 jin_xi cool 06:18 Calinou what the fu- 06:18 VanessaE you're gonna have a jolly load of fun texturing mesecons by the time Jeija and I are through with it :D 06:18 Calinou I am downloading at 277kb/sec 06:18 RealBadAngel calinou, maybe you know? 06:18 Calinou :D 06:20 jin_xi did you try inv:set_stack("src", 1, temp) ? 06:21 VanessaE Calinou: that's quite some bandnarrowth there ;-) 06:26 RealBadAngel @jin_xi: woooooohooo 06:26 RealBadAngel youre great man 06:27 RealBadAngel worked finally :) 06:27 jin_xi example found via ack (its like grep) 'ack srcstack' 06:27 jin_xi in minetest folder 06:28 RealBadAngel but its not logical 06:28 RealBadAngel when used to_table 06:28 RealBadAngel should be able to use from_table 06:28 jin_xi idk, maybe we're both thinking something wrong of that from/to table stuff ;) 06:28 Calinou new steel block texture in misa's pack... changed it in the minetest version 06:29 RealBadAngel propably. lua is full of suprises 06:29 jin_xi those are minetest defined functions 06:30 jin_xi i thought so too at first, but after reading pil i changed assumptions 06:30 jin_xi did not have to read it all 06:30 RealBadAngel hmm maybe youre right 06:31 jin_xi just about tables, indexing functions and reverse tables idiom was verrry good to know 06:31 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37543#p37543 06:31 Calinou VanessaE, O_o 06:31 Calinou I play OA too :D 06:31 RealBadAngel anyway this single line solved many many things for me 06:31 RealBadAngel thx for finding it 06:31 jin_xi oops, i mean indexing, functions nod indexing functions ;) 06:31 jin_xi glad to help 06:32 VanessaE Calinou: I'm just not a hardcore gamer :-) 06:32 RealBadAngel good that i left the name srcstack and havent changed it to anythig lol 06:32 VanessaE (ironic considering my PC's rather well-outfitted for the purpose) 06:34 RealBadAngel now with this single line solution im able to repair tools using power 06:34 RealBadAngel and load/unload portable batteries 06:34 jin_xi cool 06:35 RealBadAngel and with portable batteries i can make tools that use power 06:39 RealBadAngel wonder anyway why "wear" is 16 bits 06:39 RealBadAngel 0, non tool, 1 not used, 65535 will break on next use 06:40 RealBadAngel for every tool 06:40 jin_xi no idea 06:41 RealSexyDevil 010 06:41 RealBadAngel strange solution, shall be rather like straight numeber of possible uses 06:41 RealSexyDevil RealBadAngel: I concur! 06:42 Calinou RealSexyDevil, yeah, minecraft's example of doing things is surely good 06:43 RealSexyDevil ~obit Calinou 06:43 RealSexyDevil DAMNIT 06:43 Calinou you know 16-bit wear allows more stuff? such as "dynamically" changing the damage breaking a block does? 06:43 Calinou ~stfu RealSexyDevil 06:43 RealSexyDevil ~infect Calinou 06:43 Calinou ~sex RealSexyDevil 06:43 RealSexyDevil ~family Calinou 06:43 RealBadAngel hmmm 06:43 Calinou ~shesaid 06:43 tripod Calinou: need more quinbot 06:44 RealBadAngel whatever, most important is i can now control it :) 06:44 tripod RealBadAngel: congrats! 06:44 tripod Calinou: lets minetest 06:45 tripod i have a 0.3X server 06:45 tripod will my shiz go straight over if im hosting 0.4 06:45 Calinou it will convert, yes 06:45 Calinou backup your map 06:45 RealBadAngel btw calinou: i played lately with one nasty stuff 06:45 RealBadAngel try to loop one abm, dont let it end once its called 06:46 RealBadAngel you can have then own thread in game 06:47 RealBadAngel with no callbacks needed 06:50 RealBadAngel to make it workin nice, you shall call other abms manually 06:50 RealBadAngel but could be possible 06:50 RealBadAngel inside such thread anythin can be done 06:51 Calinou cool story bro 06:51 RealBadAngel example: 06:52 RealBadAngel make emulation of a processor 06:52 RealBadAngel write OS for it 06:52 RealBadAngel and make terminal window 06:52 jin_xi then play nethack 06:53 RealBadAngel it dont have to be speedy gonzales 06:53 RealBadAngel but can make a computer inside of a computer game 06:54 RealBadAngel and that would be cool :) 06:55 RealBadAngel make a node look like a terminal 06:55 RealBadAngel click on it to actually run command line 06:55 RealBadAngel and run programs 06:57 RealBadAngel and when theyre runnin you can still play the game 07:00 RealBadAngel with interfaces to mesecons it could control logic outside 07:00 RealBadAngel way more powerfull than the microcontroller 10:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:33 jin_xi morning adam 11:16 RealBadAngel hi 11:16 RealBadAngel its actually funny, for some1 its mornin, some are sleepin 11:16 RealBadAngel here its 1pm 11:16 PilzAdam 1pm 11:17 RealBadAngel @jin_xi: http://realbadangel.pl/batterybox.png 11:17 RealBadAngel thanks to your help 11:17 RealBadAngel :) 11:18 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, do you think this mod is usefull http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2777 ? 11:19 RealBadAngel what do you mean by "old blocks"? 11:19 PilzAdam unkown blocks 11:19 RealBadAngel then yes, usefull 11:20 RealBadAngel but such thing should be built-in 11:21 RealBadAngel what r u doin with "old" ones? 11:21 RealBadAngel replacin them with air? 11:21 PilzAdam yes 11:21 PilzAdam and entities despawn 11:22 RealBadAngel some shall implement time-to-live for entities lyin around 11:22 RealBadAngel like several minutes and gone 11:24 RealBadAngel when started with it, you can do that 11:41 tripod so 11:41 tripod why arnt we all playing mc 11:41 tripod ? 11:41 tripod instead of mt 11:41 tripod i dont know which is better 11:41 tripod (only play minetest) 11:43 PilzAdam mt is free 11:43 PilzAdam mt has a good modding api 11:43 jin_xi RealBadAngel: looks great 11:45 tripod does minetest have carts 11:45 tripod or w/e 11:45 tripod that looks cool RealBadAngel 11:45 PilzAdam i made cart mod 11:45 tripod so will also this stay as mods, or eventually some stuff go into mt itself? 11:45 tripod i should download a tonne of mods 11:46 PilzAdam there is no "mt itself" 11:46 PilzAdam MT is just the engine 11:46 tripod oh okay 11:46 PilzAdam everything else are mods 11:46 tripod oh okay 11:46 PilzAdam even the default game consists of mods 11:46 RealBadAngel i played mc for almost a year 11:46 tripod i need to grab some mods for my server 11:46 RealBadAngel came here so i can play and code too 11:47 tripod well, does minecraft have anything better than mt 11:47 tripod apart from userbase 11:47 RealBadAngel it does, mt is like mc 1 or 1,5 year ago 11:48 RealBadAngel but it gets better way faster as mc did 11:48 PilzAdam in 1 year mt wil be better than mc 11:48 tripod oh okay 11:48 tripod really 11:48 tripod ive been following for awhile 11:48 tripod looks awesome 11:48 tripod as well as the building restrictions in MC 11:48 RealBadAngel given a little more time 11:48 tripod is that due to JAVA 11:48 tripod because mt is C 11:48 tripod i forget. 11:48 tripod english is poor :( 11:48 RealBadAngel mc will be way better than mc 11:49 PilzAdam ? 11:49 RealBadAngel mt i mean 11:49 PilzAdam so wich will be better? 11:49 RealBadAngel mt 11:49 PilzAdam right answer 11:49 RealBadAngel for me it already is 11:49 tripod um 11:50 tripod could someone just tell me the names of some decent mods for MT 11:50 tripod that i can chuck on my server 11:50 jin_xi for me modding is more fun than playing ;) 11:50 PilzAdam jin_xi, +1 11:50 RealBadAngel i do like both 11:50 PilzAdam tripod, carts, beds, mesecons, more ores 11:50 jin_xi and i like this early stage explorative mod development style 11:50 RealBadAngel when combined? thats coool 11:51 PilzAdam tripod, flowers, growing 11:51 RealBadAngel technic too ;) 11:51 tripod i saw that link 11:51 tripod in your sig 11:51 * jin_xi always disables signatures 11:52 tripod thanks guys. 11:52 tripod Calinou: NOU 11:52 Calinou CALI 11:52 RealBadAngel it actually started to work. i mean my mod 11:52 tripod I HAZ CANDY 11:52 Calinou MT is 1.75 year old btw 11:52 Calinou MC 3 years old 11:52 tripod i played infi 11:52 jin_xi what is that in ingame years? 11:52 tripod but i know nothing 11:53 Calinou jin_xi, real life years <_< 11:53 tripod of mt/mc 11:53 tripod Calinou: atomic time bitch 11:53 Calinou NO U 11:53 Calinou LEAP YEARS 11:53 jin_xi light years ahead... 11:53 RealBadAngel one thing mt has that mc can sit and cry 11:53 RealBadAngel modding API 11:54 RealBadAngel modding minecraft is pain in the ass 11:54 OldCoder Oh? MT is easier than MC ? 11:54 RealBadAngel theres no api for mc 11:55 PilzAdam jin_xi, its 0 in in-game years if you hold on the time 11:55 RealBadAngel each game update modders have to almost rewrite mods 11:56 RealBadAngel so it ends like for complex mod it is released like a month or more after game updates 11:56 RealBadAngel and they update game again 11:56 RealBadAngel even before modder was ready for previous one 11:56 RealBadAngel sick^2 11:56 Calinou minetest isn't complete at all, though 11:57 Calinou ^ that's the only thing that prevents MT from being popular 11:57 RealBadAngel and minecraft is? 11:57 Calinou no mobs, no 3D players, sound is basic, lacks game elements such as sprinting/etc 11:57 RealBadAngel laggy buggy as hell 11:57 Calinou minecraft is extremely popular because it's mature 11:57 Calinou it's not laggy; get a real fucking computer 11:57 RealBadAngel it IS 11:57 Calinou it's faster than MT on fast computers 11:57 Calinou it does use a lot of bandwidth and /lags/ but isn't /slow/ as in performance 11:58 Calinou also it works on OS X out of the box 11:58 RealBadAngel so what 11:58 RealBadAngel to play it on normal pc i had to buy more memory 11:59 RealBadAngel to configure it i fought for weeks 11:59 Calinou 2GB runs MC playably; 90% of computers sold after 2009 have that amount of RAM 11:59 RealBadAngel mojang's folks are not able to write optimizn stuff like OptiFine 12:00 Calinou mojang doesn't know the word "workaround" unfortunately 12:00 Calinou their game runs at 20TPS which is overkill 12:00 Calinou it'd work if it ran at 10TPS, with 50% reduced CPU usage 12:00 RealBadAngel they wanted to buy optifine but offered to few 12:00 RealBadAngel and author said fuck off 12:00 Calinou lol I got +q'd on #debian 12:00 Calinou * themill points towards #debian-offtopic 12:00 Calinou * Calinou is banned from #debian-offtopic 12:00 Calinou try harder 12:01 Calinou then themill +q'd me 12:01 RealBadAngel notch is no longer involved in minecraft 12:01 RealBadAngel jeb is main coder now 12:01 Calinou yeah, and dinnerbone 12:02 RealBadAngel yes, dinnerbone is makin api 12:02 Calinou shit API yeah 12:02 RealBadAngel and jeb is actually adding new kind of stairs and slabs to the game 12:02 Calinou "NOW YOU CAN CREATE HAY BALES§§§" 12:03 Calinou he already did; still no nether brick slabs though :( 12:03 RealBadAngel and couloured wood 12:03 RealBadAngel awesome 12:03 Calinou also I beat him to panels (he didn't add panels to the game yet) 12:03 Calinou there is colored wood in moreblocks; jungle trees make jungle planks, sticks and fences 12:03 * Calinou still wants colored pressure plates, fences, sticks 12:03 RealBadAngel that modders should do 12:03 RealBadAngel not game developers lol 12:03 Calinou non-default: "not much people use it" 12:04 Calinou that's the problem of non-default settings/stuff 12:04 RealBadAngel wait two months and u will get new stairs ingame 12:04 RealBadAngel fuck it 12:04 Calinou new stairs have been added already 12:04 RealBadAngel talkin bout mc all the time 12:04 Calinou yes in MC, colored wood stairs/slabs 12:05 RealBadAngel nvm. mt is open source. i can code. i can play 12:05 RealBadAngel fuck mc 12:05 RealBadAngel period 12:06 OldCoder Not exactly the FOSS manifest but some of the same principles apply 12:06 OldCoder FOSS is Freedom 12:06 OldCoder :-) 12:06 tripod should I grab 0.4.1 12:06 tripod or the git\ 12:07 tripod or delta-git 12:07 tripod so many choice! 12:07 RealBadAngel 0.4.2 rc1 12:08 tripod will have to manually compile it 12:08 tripod AUR/arch doesnt have 4.2 12:08 tripod brb 12:08 RealBadAngel wait a sec 12:08 tripod mk 12:08 RealBadAngel http://c55.me/blog/?p=1274 12:09 RealBadAngel here u have the link 12:09 tripod ty 12:11 RealBadAngel and Calinou: one thing 12:11 RealBadAngel naked mc is still shit 12:11 RealBadAngel modders make it great 12:15 vicscandl meh, !<3 work 12:16 vicscandl not today at least... 12:18 OldCoder !<3 is valid? 12:18 * OldCoder is learning the intricacies of modern emoticons 12:18 OldCoder In my day we had :-) and :-( 12:18 RealBadAngel lol 12:18 RealBadAngel i also havent quite understood that one 12:18 * Calinou facepalms 12:18 Calinou #debian op quiets me 12:19 Calinou 10 minutes later bans me for "you should know better" 12:19 Calinou this is the second time I get banned for this reason 12:19 OldCoder Hmm 12:19 * OldCoder prefers specific disputes 12:19 vicscandl OldCoder: i not(<3) work is how it *should* have read.. :) 12:19 OldCoder Ah 12:20 OldCoder But !<3 is understandable. It simply opens an interesting door. What of log(<3) or D:**10 ? 12:20 vicscandl Calinou: it's ok, you can troliolio here.... 12:20 Calinou no u 12:21 Calinou FOSS is Freedom 12:21 OldCoder Yes 12:21 OldCoder Ghostshell is conflicted about that 12:21 Calinou no, for debian, FOSS is "fucking ostensible stripes of shadows" 12:22 Calinou :} 12:22 OldCoder All right 12:22 RealBadAngel hehehe 12:22 Calinou you don't say "all right", you should say "alright" 12:22 * OldCoder does not use Debian Ubuntu MINT Because he prefers his own 12:22 Calinou inb4 harshlinux 12:22 OldCoder Harshlinux? 12:22 * OldCoder googles 12:23 OldCoder I see no Harshlinux 12:23 vicscandl archlinux 12:23 Calinou yeah :} 12:26 NekoGloop Hello again, people of #minetest! 12:29 PilzAdam Hi NekoGloop 12:29 NekoGloop :3 12:31 OldCoder Meow 12:31 NekoGloop Mrowr! 12:39 NekoGloop So how is everyone today? 12:51 RealBadAngel @calinou: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU 12:51 RealBadAngel partially answer why mt is great. 12:53 RealBadAngel everythin other goes same way. mc too 12:55 NekoGloop What's that? 12:56 PilzAdam Quake 13:03 tripod RealBadAngel: good vid 13:03 tripod esp the speedrun at the end 13:04 Calinou Quake 13:04 Calinou what does this have to do with quake? 13:04 Calinou there is no strafejumping in MT/MC 13:04 Calinou *cries* 13:05 RealBadAngel its the ways games goin today 13:05 PilzAdam Calinou, RealBadAngel postet a link to a Quake vid 13:05 tripod RealBadAngel: yup. 13:05 PilzAdam and NekoGloop asked what this is 13:05 RealBadAngel i liked DLC's 13:05 RealBadAngel if you havent noticed 13:06 RealBadAngel like "Purple weapons pack" 13:06 RealBadAngel rotfl 13:07 Calinou it's not a DLC, it's a mod 13:08 RealBadAngel "purple weapons skins" exactly 13:11 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37570#p37570 13:22 Cornernote Hey 13:22 PilzAdam Hi 13:22 Cornernote New mesecon node box wire is awesome 13:22 PilzAdam yes 13:23 Cornernote Just looking how many new mods there are since I joined minetest... So amazing 13:24 Cornernote Used my first micro controller today to replace some old Xor gates 13:25 Cornernote Hey plizadam.. With the item drop mod, if u don't pick stuff up does it make the world slower 13:26 PilzAdam is that a question? 13:27 Cornernote I Thought maybe they could have a timer that deletes them after 30 seconds... U reckon there is any point? 13:28 tripod tab completition is win too btw 13:28 PilzAdam i can implement it 13:29 Cornernote If it makes it faster would be good 13:29 Cornernote Do u use github? 13:30 PilzAdam nope 13:32 Cornernote I like reading code on iPad.. Github makes it easy 13:40 JamieWill Yeah I have added to the teleporters reloaded mod by adding a /sethome1 and /sethome2 13:40 JamieWill same with the mine and town commands 14:00 tripod Calinou: love your post 14:01 Calinou no u 14:05 tripod fug u 14:17 OldCoder Back 14:18 OldCoder GitHub is useful 14:18 PilzAdam Ive created a mod that adds simple aliases for many mods: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2778 14:18 PilzAdam Tell me if you want me to add more mods 14:20 Calinou moreblocks has some aliases for default mod btw :p 14:22 PilzAdam Calinou, but my mod supports more mods than moreblocks 14:27 Calinou yeah 14:51 PilzAdam anyone knows a good farming mod? 14:52 Calinou marktraceur had an updated version of the farming mod; don't remember where it is 14:52 Calinou google? 14:52 Calinou (it's on gitorious) 14:57 PilzAdam Calinou, dont find it 14:57 PilzAdam the only one i know is http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2619 14:57 PilzAdam but its not finished 14:58 Calinou :/ 14:58 PilzAdam ill make my own 14:59 * PilzAdam goes coding 14:59 Calinou lol yeah 15:08 keegan hello 15:08 Calinou hi 15:08 keegan who have the money mod?? 15:08 Calinou not me 15:08 Calinou gtg bye 15:09 keegan bye 15:09 keegan who os tje owner of money mod?? 15:16 keegan there is a bug with money mod 15:32 PilzAdam when i call a method of ItemStack that changes something on the Itemstack it has no effect 15:32 PilzAdam Only the inventory methods work 15:57 NekoGloop If I make a challenge map, how many people would play? 15:58 PilzAdam If its good i will play it 15:59 NekoGloop It'll be part of my MESEcons paradise, since it'll use a lot of mesecon puzzles within it 16:02 NekoGloop Er... scratch that 16:03 iqualfragile uhm… are there ops in this cannel? because i have not seen any 16:03 NekoGloop gonna copy the minetest over, regenerate a vanilla world with just mesecons and stairsplus etc. in place 16:03 saschaheylik celeron is in -dev 16:04 NekoGloop but celeron is not currently doing anything with minetest. 16:04 saschaheylik but hes op... 16:04 NekoGloop so? 16:04 saschaheylik that was the question 16:04 saschaheylik uhm… are there ops in this cannel? because i have not seen any 16:05 NekoGloop -this- channel 16:05 saschaheylik im sure he would come over to kick people 16:05 * NekoGloop kicks saschaheylik 16:05 saschaheylik except you dont 16:07 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 16:16 NekoGloop Ohai Calinou :3 16:16 Calinou hi 16:16 keegan hey 16:18 keegan my computer s dumb 16:19 NekoGloop_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhLi81HeM8 16:19 * Calinou kicks NekoGloop_ to ##fix_your_connection 16:19 NekoGloop_ whatever 16:20 NekoGloop_ Obai NekoGloop :3 16:20 Calinou everwhat 16:21 keegan why is my laptop having cpu heart attacks? 16:21 NekoGloop_ because you're using it 16:21 keegan i just turn it on 16:22 NekoGloop_ because you're using it 16:22 Calinou don't use noobuntu :3 16:22 keegan its on my windows laptop 16:22 NekoGloop_ >windows 16:23 NekoGloop_ >laptop 16:23 NekoGloop_ umad bro 16:23 NekoGloop_ windows is for PCs, not laptops 16:23 Calinou winblows is for nothing 16:23 Calinou FTFY 16:24 NekoGloop_ To make mods world-exclusive, I put them in ~/worlds/world/worldmods, correct? 16:24 Calinou yes 16:24 Calinou /worlds/my_world_name/worldmods/moreblocks/init.lua 16:24 NekoGloop_ ok thanks 16:24 Calinou example structure ^ 16:24 NekoGloop_ I'm making a challenge map, wanted to know 16:26 NekoGloop_ I need worldedit, stairsplus, and mesecons. 16:27 NekoGloop_ w 16:27 NekoGloop_ ... 16:27 NekoGloop_ which reminds me, I need to re-pull from github 16:35 NekoGloop_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78&feature=related 16:40 NekoGloop_ How do I call the meta of another node and set it as the meta of another? 16:42 thexyz i think you should know fields' names you want to copy from one to another 16:42 NekoGloop_ uh... so how do I do that? 16:42 NekoGloop_ the node I want to call is "special:irremovable" 16:42 thexyz oh, it seems i'm wrong 16:43 thexyz just use to_table/from_table 16:43 thexyz so local from = meta1:to_table() 16:43 thexyz meta2:from_table(from) 16:43 NekoGloop_ er... 16:43 NekoGloop_ I'll try to use that how I understood it 16:44 NekoGloop_ oh never mind, that wouldnt work anyway 16:45 NekoGloop_ Ohai neko259 :3 16:46 neko259 Hi. 16:47 NekoGloop_ Another neko, eh? lol 16:51 NekoGloop_ I really shouldnt apply 20 different effects to the same image and expect it to not look like shit 17:10 NekoGloop_ How do I make a node not drop anything when it is destroyed? 17:11 PilzAdam drop = "", 17:11 NekoGloop_ ok 17:11 NekoGloop_ that's what I thought but I couldnt be sure 17:25 OldCoder NekoGloop_, the other neko has been around but I haven't seen him or her talk until now 17:25 NekoGloop_ i know 17:25 OldCoder Yes, I guess you'd notice nekos 17:26 NekoGloop_ :3 17:26 NekoGloop_ how does toolrepair work? 17:27 NekoGloop_ (I'm making a gamemode :P) 17:28 PilzAdam NekoGloop_, jsut put 2 tools of the same type in the crafting grid 17:28 NekoGloop_ ah 17:28 NekoGloop_ and that does what? 17:29 PilzAdam adds the two wears of the tools plus a bonus 17:29 NekoGloop_ ah, i see 17:29 NekoGloop_ so in an adventurecraft-esque mode, leave it or keep it? 17:30 PilzAdam nobody use toolrepair so its not important 17:31 PilzAdam nobody even knows what toolreapair is 17:31 NekoGloop_ lol ok 17:31 NekoGloop_ so remove it so that the few people who do know dont try to use it? 17:31 PilzAdam no 17:31 PilzAdam leave it in 17:32 PilzAdam so the people wich play minetest long get a bonus 17:32 NekoGloop_ lolno 17:32 NekoGloop_ bye-bye toolrepair ;) 17:33 iqualfragile oh, hey, there is toolrepair? 17:33 iqualfragile awsome :D 17:33 NekoGloop_ ... lol 17:33 PilzAdam as is said 17:37 NekoGloop_ ok, so now no ores generate ;) 17:38 NekoGloop_ Let's go comment out ores node registering so that those arent there... 17:40 NekoGloop_ Wow, this is confusing >.> 17:40 NekoGloop_ oh great, hmmmm... 17:40 hmmmm ...yes? 17:40 NekoGloop_ :D 17:40 hmmmm ... 17:41 NekoGloop_ I'm bored :D 17:41 PilzAdam arent you coding? 17:41 NekoGloop_ sorta 17:41 PilzAdam can you make bread texture? 17:41 NekoGloop_ I'm really just f*cking with the default mod. 17:42 NekoGloop_ Isnt there already bread in nature mod? 17:45 Calinou NekoGloop_, jsut put 2 tools of the same type in the crafting grid 17:45 Calinou the bonus is very small by default: 2% 17:45 NekoGloop_ i know 17:45 Calinou moreblocks extends it to 15% though :3 17:45 NekoGloop_ i know that too 17:56 NekoGloop_ how do I make a tool have infinite uses? 17:57 PilzAdam in the groupcaps uses=0 i think 17:58 NekoGloop_ thank you 17:58 PilzAdam im not sure about that 17:58 NekoGloop_ ok 18:16 NekoGloop_ yup 18:16 PilzAdam Someone want to test my farming mod: http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip ? 18:16 NekoGloop_ you were right 18:17 NekoGloop_ And I hate f*cking with default 18:18 NekoGloop_ sand is being retarded 18:19 NekoGloop_ I can comment out all the code that has anything to do with falling nodes, and it's still being retarded as f*ck 18:22 NekoGloop_ Now, my adventurecraft gamemode disallows breaking of nodes with anything but an edit stick, which is only available via creative inventory or /giveme 18:25 NekoGloop_ Ohai Jeija 18:25 Jeija Hi NekoGloop_ 18:25 NekoGloop_ Damn, I still have the underscore lol 18:25 NekoGloop Better :3 18:26 NekoGloop Well, adventuretest is coming nicelt 18:26 NekoGloop nicely* 18:33 NekoGloop How would I make an abm work for a group? 18:33 NekoGloop example an abm for all nodes with group {trap=1} 18:34 PilzAdam nodenames = {"group:trap"}, 18:34 NekoGloop ok, thank you 18:37 NekoGloop how do i check for a certain level? 18:38 NekoGloop i.e. {trap=1} does something different than {trap=2} 18:38 PilzAdam if node.groups.trap == 1 then 18:38 NekoGloop than you 18:38 NekoGloop thank* 18:39 PilzAdam use the node and not the name 18:39 NekoGloop ? 18:39 PilzAdam dont use "modname:nodename".groups 18:39 PilzAdam this wont worl 18:39 PilzAdam *work 18:39 PilzAdam use mine 18:39 NekoGloop so that line exactly? 18:39 PilzAdam use minetest.env:get_node(pos).groups 18:40 NekoGloop ... ok 18:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=relmfu ding dong... 18:45 NekoGloop We need a /clearworld function :P 18:46 NekoGloop is there a mod I can use to allow a /clearworld? 18:46 PilzAdam delete the map.sqlite 18:46 NekoGloop lol 18:46 NekoGloop (seriously?) 18:46 PilzAdam yes 18:46 NekoGloop 0.0 18:47 PilzAdam only the blocks will be deletet 18:47 PilzAdam inventory and position will be safe 18:47 NekoGloop lol @ map.sqlite in notepad++ 18:47 NekoGloop it must be a compressed filetype, correct? 18:48 PilzAdam its a sqlite database 18:56 NekoGloop buckets... go or no go for adventuretest? 18:57 PilzAdam i dont know what is the goal of adventuretest 18:58 NekoGloop adventurecraft-esque playing enviroment 18:58 NekoGloop I incorporated bobblocks's method of damaging the player when they hit traps... 18:59 NekoGloop As well as an edit-stick that is the only tool that can break anything... 18:59 NekoGloop But should buckets be in? 19:00 PilzAdam you "destroy" water when taking it with bucket 19:00 PilzAdam so: no 19:00 NekoGloop ok 19:01 NekoGloop Now let's hope that minetest doesnt crash after all this editing :D 19:01 NekoGloop lol 19:01 NekoGloop yup, it crashed >.> 19:02 NekoGloop Hm, it also has less processor load lol 19:02 NekoGloop (i got it to load :P) 19:03 NekoGloop Hm... I wonder if mesecons still works... 19:03 NekoGloop oh wow, they do 19:03 NekoGloop wasnt expecting that :P 19:04 NekoGloop Hm... How do I make time stop? 19:05 PilzAdam time_speed = 0 in minetest.conf 19:06 NekoGloop_ Repeat that please 19:06 PilzAdam time_speed = 0 in minetest.conf 19:06 PilzAdam or minetest.setting_set(time_speed, 0) 19:06 NekoGloop_ ok 19:07 NekoGloop_ Wouldnt that affect all maps though? 19:07 PilzAdam im not sure 19:07 PilzAdam im feeling like writing 90% of your code :) 19:07 NekoGloop_ ok 19:08 NekoGloop_ lol 19:08 NekoGloop_ I have the ideas, you have the code ;) 19:08 PilzAdam i have ideas too 19:08 _2cool4me4_ I made a video for my ALU 19:09 NekoGloop_ oh look I left 19:09 NekoGlooop ... too many O's 19:09 _2cool4me4_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMbXXkHykJA 19:09 _2cool4me4_ Lotsa mitsakes 19:09 NekoGloop _2cool4me4_: Link it? 19:09 NekoGloop dammit ninja'd 19:09 _2cool4me4_ lol 19:10 NekoGloop btw: may-say-cons is not correct 19:11 _2cool4me4_ So what is it? 19:11 NekoGloop me-se-cons, exactly how you see it, is correct 19:11 NekoGloop dont put emphasis on the "s" btw 19:11 _2cool4me4_ well sorry, it's my first voiceover 19:11 NekoGloop ok ok just making sure you know 19:12 NekoGloop incase you decide to do another one 19:12 PilzAdam farming with my farming mod is fun: http://www.zimg.eu/i/571274704 19:12 NekoGloop LOL 9897 MICROCONTROLLERS 19:12 _2cool4me4_ that wasn't random at all 19:12 _2cool4me4_ wat 19:12 NekoGloop you have 9897 microcontrollers in the vid ;) 19:12 _2cool4me4_ Oh, yeah 19:13 _2cool4me4_ It's my mesecons fun world, I mess with them a lot 19:13 NekoGloop lol 19:13 _2cool4me4_ This is my first useful thing 19:13 NekoGloop i have one of those 19:13 _2cool4me4_ And it features much of the same features of minecraft! 19:14 PilzAdam :) 19:14 NekoGloop isnt the thing you're showing just a really complicated multi-logic gate? 19:14 _2cool4me4_ where 19:14 NekoGloop the whole thing 19:14 _2cool4me4_ yep 19:15 NekoGloop basically a couple OR gates and an AND gate, maybe a single NOR gate? 19:15 _2cool4me4_ no, a single XOR 19:15 PilzAdam i made this a few months ago without microcontrollers 19:15 _2cool4me4_ so it's (me) se with a "short" e? 19:15 PilzAdam but with 4 bit each number 19:16 _2cool4me4_ It's my first time with anything near computing 19:16 PilzAdam was 20*20*30 19:16 PilzAdam with microconrollers it would be 5*5*1 19:17 _2cool4me4_ See, that's how progress works 19:17 PilzAdam i made a keybord with microcontrollers that converts the input into ascii 19:17 _2cool4me4_ GAH 19:17 * _2cool4me4_ runs 19:17 PilzAdam it needs about 45sec. for 1 character :) 19:17 _2cool4me4_ oh 19:18 NekoGloop "long" e 19:18 PilzAdam 28 microcontrollers 19:18 _2cool4me4_ Me-See-cons? 19:18 NekoGloop Me-s-cons 19:19 NekoGloop or if you prefer, Mes-cons 19:19 _2cool4me4_ oohkay 19:19 NekoGloop the last one is probably correct 19:19 PilzAdam every of the 28 Microcontrollers with about 550 chars of code 19:20 NekoGloop lol 19:20 _2cool4me4_ wat 19:20 PilzAdam heres code for the "A" 19:20 PilzAdam if(!D) off(A) off(B) sbi(10, 1); if(C) sbi(11, 1); if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(8,0) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) on(A) sbi(7,0) sbi(8,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(6,0) sbi(7,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(5,0) sbi(6,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(4,0) sbi(5,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(3,0) sbi(4,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(#10) off(A) sbi(2,0) sbi(3,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D) if(# 19:20 PilzAdam 10) on(A) sbi(1,0) sbi(2,1) sbi(10, 0);; if(D ) if(#10) on(A) sbi(11,0) sbi(1,1) sbi(10, 0);; 19:20 NekoGloop holy sh*t 19:20 _2cool4me4_ That would take a while 19:22 NakedFury http://vozme.com/index.php?lang=en type mesecons and hear how they pronounce it 19:22 PilzAdam in C comes the signal from keaboard; D is the tact; A is output of ascii 19:22 NekoGloop that thing is stupid 19:23 PilzAdam NakedFury, type "PilzAdam" 19:23 PilzAdam :) 19:23 _2cool4me4_ wierd 19:23 NekoGloop sounds like plucking a bow string xD 19:23 NakedFury nice 19:23 NakedFury the voice is a little weird 19:23 NekoGloop try female 19:23 _2cool4me4_ Type nekogloop 19:23 NekoGloop i did that 19:24 NekoGloop Neck-Gloop is not how you say it ;) 19:24 _2cool4me4_ It is in the computer world 19:24 NekoGloop lol female voice says Necka-Galoop 19:24 PilzAdam lol type only Gloop 19:25 _2cool4me4_ Don't type 2cool4me4 19:25 NekoGloop female for that is how I say it 19:26 NekoGloop LOL _2cool4me4_ 19:26 NekoGloop type lol ;) 19:26 _2cool4me4_ That's right 19:27 NekoGloop type some romanji, get some freaky sh*t 19:28 NekoGloop Example: "Anata yo watashite" 19:29 NekoGloop supposed to be A-na-ta yo wa-ta-shi-te 19:29 NekoGloop Anyways, back to coding 19:30 PilzAdam who wants to try the beta of my farming mod? 19:30 PilzAdam http://www.zimg.eu/i/571274704 19:30 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip 19:32 NekoGloop not me 19:32 PilzAdam :( 19:33 _2cool4me4_ Is there a program like MCEdit for Minetest 19:33 PilzAdam what is MCEdit? 19:34 _2cool4me4_ It lets you change the terrain in a minecraft world 19:34 _2cool4me4_ Like make the whole thing flat 19:34 NakedFury I think mcedit could be made to work with minetest 19:34 NakedFury its opensource 19:34 NekoGloop isnt there a thing in the forums? 19:34 PilzAdam WorldEdit 19:34 NekoGloop not what he means 19:36 _2cool4me4_ looks like it could work 19:38 NakedFury world edit is coming along nicely 19:39 NakedFury I think it just had a major overhaul 19:39 _2cool4me4_ I just wiped 8680 blocks! (6) 19:39 NekoGloop lol 19:42 _2cool4me4_ I'm clear cutting the world! 19:43 tinoesroho Heya. 19:43 NakedFury hey 19:44 _2cool4me4_ NO SAPLINGS 19:45 NekoGloop lol 19:46 NekoGloop How hard would a mob spawner block be, and then the code for the mob itself? (mob would mimic MC zombies, to keep it simple) 19:46 PilzAdam mobspawner = easy 19:46 PilzAdam mob = very hard 19:47 NekoGloop ok :3 19:47 * NekoGloop puts on sunglasses 19:47 NekoGloop Challenge accepted. 19:47 PilzAdam I will be your wingman! 19:47 NekoGloop lol ok 19:47 NekoGloop then talk to me in PM 19:48 _2cool4me4_ how do you turn up the minimum viewing range?!?!? 19:48 khonkhortisan r 19:48 _2cool4me4_ no 19:48 NekoGloop i think he means without making lagtastic spikes 19:49 _2cool4me4_ lol 19:49 PilzAdam viewing_range_nodes_max = 160 and viewing_range_nodes_min = 35 19:49 _2cool4me4_ I turned it down but can't turn it back up! 19:50 _2cool4me4_ There, it's working again 19:50 NekoGloop wb Jeija :3 19:50 _2cool4me4_ yay jeija! 19:51 NekoGloop overviewing animals code now 19:51 NekoGloop hoping to be able to make it somewhat less... laggy 19:52 jin_xi look at c55 mobs mod maybe 19:52 NekoGloop tried that, it's just confusing ;) 19:52 tinoesroho Neko, I`ve already done it. 19:53 tinoesroho http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2764 19:53 NekoGloop I'm trying to make an adventuretest mode 19:53 NekoGloop similar to adventurecraft ;) 19:54 tinoesroho Then simply remove all the other animalmods, leaving the vombies and animals intact. 19:54 NekoGloop need mobs of some kind 19:54 NekoGloop ... how about I just f*ck with it myself, eh? 19:54 NekoGloop Or me and PilzAdam, i guess ;) 19:54 tinoesroho Don`t reinvent the wheel, Neko. My advice is to play around with the Vombies code and see what else you can do. 19:54 tinoesroho The animals engine is really flexible. 19:55 PilzAdam tinoesroho, i agrre with you.... sorry NekoGloop 19:55 NekoGloop I'm gonna reinvent the wheel to be round ;) 19:55 _2cool4me4_ wat 19:55 NekoGloop Mesecons compatibility, anyone? 19:55 Jeija You were talking about mesecons pronounciation: According to celeron it should be meh-seh-cons (just like they say here http://vozme.com/index.php?lang=en), I call it mees-cons 19:55 tinoesroho Hey Pilz. 19:55 NekoGloop I say it like Jeija lol 19:55 NekoGloop (I just didnt use that annotation) 19:55 tinoesroho It would be downright simple to change the abm to some sort of mesecon trigger. 19:56 _2cool4me4_ So did I do it right, oh mighty creator? 19:56 PilzAdam Jeija, i pronounce it german :) 19:56 tinoesroho *drools while droning on about various things* 19:57 Jeija PilzAdam: Although I'm also german, I pronounce it english; sounds kinda stupid in german 19:57 PilzAdam I know 19:57 tinoesroho Eh. Meese (rhymes with geese) cons, I say myself. 19:57 tinoesroho It sounds so meh seh other wise. 19:58 NekoGloop That's what I say, and probably how jeija says it to, tinoesroho 19:58 tinoesroho Damned input switched to french layout. Blasted bilingualism. 19:58 Jeija http://translate.google.com/#de/hi/mihsconns That's exactly how I pronouce it 19:58 tinoesroho It could be worse, it could be Punjabi input. 19:58 Jeija (let it pronounce the german of course) 19:58 NekoGloop OH MY GOD TOO LOUD 19:59 _2cool4me4_ Okay 20:00 NekoGloop @Jeija: I say it that way too, despite I'm american of course ;) 20:00 NekoGloop That one just makes the most sense imo 20:01 _2cool4me4_ THAT's how you burn things in Minetest 20:01 NekoGloop //set fire:fire 20:01 _2cool4me4_ No, lava sources 20:01 _2cool4me4_ nuff said 20:01 NekoGloop use creative mode, you can put fire in your inventory ;) 20:02 _2cool4me4_ Really? 20:02 tinoesroho Oh man. My brother torched my entire city with just a single bucket of lava. 20:02 _2cool4me4_ Build it out of stone next time 20:03 OldCoder tinoesroho, were you allowed to use buckets of water to stop it? 20:03 tinoesroho It didn`t work on 0.4.0. 20:03 tinoesroho Punching the flames works. 20:03 tinoesroho Somewhat. 20:03 tinoesroho I`ve removed the buckets altogether - much too griefing friendly. 20:04 _2cool4me4_ Now there's huge glitch shadows 20:05 _2cool4me4_ okay, that'll be burning for a while 20:05 cy1 tinoesroho: you should just set lava to not burn stuff. :T 20:05 tinoesroho Disable the fire mod, ehÉ 20:05 cy1 That too. 20:05 tinoesroho (STUPID FREAKING FRENCH INPUT!) 20:05 _2cool4me4_ lol 20:05 cy1 Fire is pretty and amazingly realistic but 20:05 cy1 it kills servers 20:05 tinoesroho Eh yup. 20:06 leo_rockway there's probably not a legit usage for lava in a server... 20:06 cy1 My server has a modified fire mod that works OK. 20:06 leo_rockway since we don't do obsidian. 20:06 cy1 leo_rockway: orly 20:06 cy1 lava is useful for killing people #1, and for pretty glass enclosed structures #2 20:07 cy1 w/out lava what is the temple of Satan supposed to use for a sacrificial pit? Falling damage? Lame! 20:07 tinoesroho Only if you cap it. My brother mad a chandilier and forgot to cap it. Fire in the hole! Out of the hole! Fire everywhere! 20:07 tinoesroho Maptools killblocks! 20:07 cy1 "shit I still have half a heart left. Hold on I'll build a ladder up so I can sacrifice myself again." 20:07 tinoesroho That works every time! 20:08 tinoesroho But lava is so much cooler looking. 20:08 tinoesroho -.- 20:08 cy1 yeah 20:08 cy1 especially since someone animated it 20:09 tinoesroho Hey, anybody interested in running a Nazi Zombies server(Question mark) I`d do so, but I`m not at home(period) 20:10 cy1 I only do minetest servers. 20:10 PilzAdam tinoesroho, not nazis 20:10 NakedFury why cant they be Jew Zombies? 20:10 NakedFury its always nazis 20:11 NekoGloop I put lava on a server to make a challenge room, chest at the end for the victor ;) 20:11 _2cool4me4_ lol 20:11 _2cool4me4_ what did the chest have in it 20:11 NekoGloop mithril 20:12 _2cool4me4_ oh 20:12 NekoGloop moreores was in effect 20:12 NekoGloop ;) 20:12 tinoesroho ... Apple zombies much(question mark) 20:12 NakedFury it had a chained mithril vest 20:12 PilzAdam running a cotton plantage is hard work: http://www.zimg.eu/i/635089977 20:12 _2cool4me4_ I would have made it empty :evil: 20:12 NekoGloop well everyone after the first person comes to an empty chest, so... >:3 20:12 tinoesroho Scratch that. 3D MC-player-like zombies. Ha! 20:12 _2cool4me4_ what's your os pilz? 20:13 cy1 PilzAdam: does farming stuff grow that far away from water? 20:13 PilzAdam _2cool4me4_, Kubuntu 11.10 20:13 _2cool4me4_ Ohh, I thought it looked something like Ubuntu. 20:13 PilzAdam cy1, in radius of 4 20:13 cy1 ooh thought it had to be like right next to it. 20:14 PilzAdam _2cool4me4_, KDE is better than Unity so i use Kubuntu and not ubuntu 20:14 PilzAdam but everything else is same 20:14 cy1 PilzAdam: Lubuntu is where it's at :B 20:14 leo_rockway KDE <3 20:14 NakedFury too many ubuntus 20:15 _2cool4me4_ But what about nubuntu for the newbies? 20:15 NekoGloop not enough windows ;P 20:15 leo_rockway PilzAdam: which mod is that with the cotton? 20:15 PilzAdam My farming mod (not released yet) 20:15 iqualfragile pilzadam: is there a repos for your farming-mod? im curently using hydroculture but its too inbalanced 20:15 PilzAdam you get free beta access: http://ompldr.org/vZjNlYQ/farming.zip 20:15 cy1 NakedFury: http://www.jewbuntu.com/ 20:16 cy1 PilzAdam: orly 20:16 NakedFury get the fuck out 20:16 PilzAdam cy1, lol 20:16 NakedFury thats a joke right? 20:16 PilzAdam i hope so 20:16 _2cool4me4_ I hope so 20:16 _2cool4me4_ There's an echo in here 20:16 leo_rockway PilzAdam: I'm at work :S I'll fetch it once I get home. 20:16 _2cool4me4_ can you say virus? 20:17 leo_rockway virus 20:17 NekoGloop Oh god it's too many m's 20:17 NakedFury man if linux devs stopped making more crap distros and got together for 1 version linux would rule the world 20:17 * PilzAdam says "VIrus" 20:17 _2cool4me4_ WRONG 20:17 leo_rockway NakedFury: nonsense. 20:17 PilzAdam NakedFury, absolutly wron 20:17 PilzAdam wrong* 20:17 NakedFury really? 20:17 leo_rockway Irish potato famine is my answer to that. 20:17 cy1 PilzAdam: http://i.imgur.com/Soe9x.png 20:18 cy1 NakedFury: distros are just pretty packaging on the same damn programs, so don't worry about it. 20:18 leo_rockway you rely on one thing, find a weakness to that thing and *poof* you're gone. 20:18 cy1 It's the Qt/Gtk split that really gets my jimmies rustled. 20:18 PilzAdam cy1, Is that hydroculture? 20:18 leo_rockway Qt <3 20:18 NakedFury ok thought distros were some sort of forks of a version 20:19 leo_rockway not really 20:19 cy1 "Trolltech: hey let's fix GTK oh no wait we can fag everything up by splitting the UI community in half forever lolololololol" 20:19 cy1 PilzAdam: It's a farming mod. Yours I guess. Your textures at least. 20:19 tinoesroho And don`t mention KDE. I hate installing KDElibs 20:19 leo_rockway cy1: GTK wasn't a general purpose graphical tolkit. 20:19 leo_rockway the G meant GIMP at the time. 20:19 _2cool4me4_ this is jewbuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKNdiFkY0A 20:19 tinoesroho And Nokià has now dumped QT on another company. -.- 20:19 leo_rockway Digia 20:19 tinoesroho Myself, I use Linux Mint. No issues. 20:20 leo_rockway Nokia sucks, so hopefully things o well. 20:20 leo_rockway go* 20:20 NakedFury nokia do suck, I agree 20:20 cy1 leo_rockway: neh, well Trolltech could have done that. They didn't so instead people still use C++ out of inertia. 20:20 tinoesroho Heck. Linux Mint is now number four on the OS charts. -.- Yey! 20:20 leo_rockway I think GTK is horrible. 20:20 jin_xi try GNUstep 20:20 cy1 GTK is better than Qt. That's not hard to do though. Both are pretty horrible. :p 20:20 leo_rockway I have. 20:21 leo_rockway I love Qt 20:21 leo_rockway the E libraries are nice too. 20:21 PilzAdam NakedFury, wrong (again) 20:21 PilzAdam Linux is just the kernel 20:21 PilzAdam everything else depends on the distro 20:21 PilzAdam they can be absolutly different 20:21 PilzAdam some distros have package repos, in other you have to compile the source 20:21 PilzAdam there are different GUI like gnome, KDE, unity 20:21 PilzAdam *GUIs 20:21 * PilzAdam stops the long monolog 20:21 NekoGloop Isnt C++ enough letters? 20:21 jin_xi qt features are ok, MOC sucks 20:21 cy1 PilzAdam: They can be, but they usually aren't. 20:21 tinoesroho `Hey! I can do this better than you can! FORK YOU!` And then somebody thinks, hey I can do this better than you and here we go again. 20:22 leo_rockway tinoesroho: what's the problem in that? 20:22 cy1 tinoesroho: and people who are wrong get lost in obscurity. yay! 20:22 cy1 This is why I like git. 20:22 cy1 Everyone forks everyone else. 20:22 tinoesroho Because now we`ve got 1120 forking distros and not enough devs to maintain em all. Myself, I like Debian and Fedora. Period. 20:22 cy1 minetest-c55 is literally c55's personal opinion as to what minetest should be. 20:23 leo_rockway tinoesroho: then they die o.0 20:23 leo_rockway again, what's the problem there? 20:23 cy1 tinoesroho: I dunno, there sure seem to be a lot of people involved with Ubuntu... 20:23 leo_rockway survival of the fittest. 20:23 leo_rockway if a distro offers something others don't, then that one will not die. 20:23 tinoesroho Try converting your relatives to Linux. They get lost darned quick. Linux Mint, not so much, but any other distro and they go boom. 20:23 leo_rockway my sister uses Arch 20:24 leo_rockway o.0 20:24 cy1 Besides that Kubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu have been streamlined down to compilation settings pretty much. 20:24 tinoesroho (```Why so many versions(question mark) Why can`t they all just work together like Microsoft(question mark) How come I can`t install MSN smileys(questionmark)```) 20:24 cy1 tinoesroho: I would if I could convince em to even try it... 20:24 cy1 "work together like Microsoft" lol 20:24 leo_rockway tinoesroho: don't they ask you questions about Windows too? 20:25 NekoGloop Microsoft needs to focus on Windows, not Xcrap 20:25 NekoGloop Excuse me, Xbox. 20:25 cy1 oh no, Windows is beyond questioning. If it doesn't work it's just your original sin that caused it. 20:25 tinoesroho Heck yes. I`m the go-to guy around my place. 20:25 leo_rockway my answer to Windows questions is "I don't know, I haven't used Windows since XP SP2" 20:25 NekoGloop I have said windows, leo_rockway ;) 20:25 NekoGloop On this very computer 20:25 * vicscandl has been redmond free for over 5 years now... 20:26 tinoesroho I still have 98 installed on an old box for training purposes. Borked my 7 install. Tried 8, borked that too. 20:26 cy1 I haven't used Windows since 98 :B 20:26 leo_rockway vicscandl: pretty much the same for me. 20:26 leo_rockway cy1: I had Slackware 7 at the time, but then my hard drive died... 20:26 leo_rockway I didn't have my own comp, and had to share with my family. 20:26 tinoesroho I did train my very computer-averse father to use Linux Mint. He`s found bajillions of features I never knew existed. 20:26 leo_rockway they all use GNU/Linux now, luckily 20:26 NekoGloop cy1: Is that the year, '98 or windows 98? 20:26 cy1 NekoGloop: yes 20:26 NekoGloop ...? 20:26 tinoesroho And this coming from the guy who converted in `08 20:26 NekoGloop Both? 20:26 saschaheylik_ tinoesroho: i wish my father was that smart 20:27 cy1 either or, or both! 20:27 cy1 But both. 20:27 NekoGloop ... ok then... 20:27 NekoGloop POLICE! 20:27 leo_rockway I taught my mom how to use a computer. I told her to take the mouse in her hand and to point up... 20:27 NekoGloop POLICE! 20:27 leo_rockway she literally raised the mouse up 20:27 NekoGloop MADMAN ON THE LOOSE!! 20:27 * cy1 uses inclusive or in everyday conversation `-` 20:27 leo_rockway that's how much she knew about computers. 20:27 tinoesroho I don`t. When he gets on the computer, I can rest assured I won`t be using it until the next day. He loooooves playing on it. 20:28 leo_rockway she can play games on GNU/Linux without a problema now. 20:28 tinoesroho My grandparents learned to play cards on Ubuntu back in 09. Wow. 20:28 NekoGloop lol my family is extremely computer-oriented 20:28 tinoesroho It was pretty cool showing them how I could grab all 208 games in a single command. Sadly, I am now haunted by Solitaire. 20:29 _2cool4me4_ I wonder what would happen if my dad turned on this computer to linux one day... 20:29 tinoesroho Not Ubuntu, is itÉ Save him the horrors of Unity! 20:29 NekoGloop @_scool4me4_: In case of that, remove your hentai background ;) 20:29 cy1 A few days ago I suggested to the person I live with "I still think you should give Linux a try. I could keep it working well and there'd be no problem!" and they were like "What I need is an up to date Windows version." 20:29 tinoesroho sudo apt-get install sabayon 20:30 leo_rockway tinoesroho: a friend of mine absolutely loves Unity. 20:30 NekoGloop cy1: That sounds like me 20:30 cy1 I bring it up every few months or so... same response. 20:30 leo_rockway I've tried it... I'm not impressed. 20:30 tinoesroho And configure a Guest acount and they can never screw it up. 20:30 tinoesroho All changes wiped when you set Sabayon up properly. Yes! 20:30 tinoesroho "Some swear by Unity. Most swear AT it." 20:30 NekoGloop lol 20:30 * NekoGloop is not most or some 20:30 leo_rockway cy1: well, it's funny to hear "I've tried Linux, it sucks" and then they tell you they tried it in 1999 o.0 20:30 * NekoGloop is the one 20:31 cy1 Unity is OK I suppose. I prefer XFCE. 20:31 leo_rockway I'm yet to try Gnome3 20:31 * tinoesroho always loads a liveCD into library computers 20:31 cy1 leo_rockway: haha yeah that's pretty crazy 20:31 tinoesroho They still haven`t noticed. Grin. 20:31 cy1 tinoesroho: hacker! POLICE! SOMEBODY HELP! 20:31 leo_rockway Newsflash: Linux did suck in 1999! 20:31 cy1 Newsflash: everything sucked in 1999 20:31 cy1 and still sucks 20:32 tinoesroho I remember the day I dropped xPUD into the slot. Most people were like, LOLWUT, and then clicked on the Firefox icon. 20:32 NekoGloop Newsflash: the world didnt exist in 1999 20:32 PilzAdam lets build a time machine and travel to 1999! 20:32 leo_rockway installing GNU/Linux you had to set up your monitor refresh rate manually... 20:32 leo_rockway it was insane 20:32 * PilzAdam starts building 20:32 NekoGloop You will need some mese for that, PilzAdam. 20:32 leo_rockway PilzAdam: give us the craft recipe. 20:32 cy1 PilzAdam: what server are you on? 20:32 PilzAdam localhost 20:33 cy1 ._. 20:33 NekoGloop He's on screw.my.life:30000 20:33 cy1 can't share that 20:33 NekoGloop :D 20:33 leo_rockway > work in IT 20:33 * PilzAdam finished the machine 20:33 NekoGloop would be funny if that's an actual server 20:33 leo_rockway > input 127.0.0.1 in browser 20:33 cy1 PilzAdam: I can has shell acct? c: 20:33 leo_rockway > co-worker (who works in IT) asks "what IP is that?" 20:33 * leo_rockway facepalms 20:33 tinoesroho Haha. 20:34 tinoesroho I spent a summer at a helpdesk. It was hilarious. 20:34 PilzAdam ohhh i made a mistake 20:34 cy1 "It's 127.0.0.1?" 20:34 PilzAdam i build a machine that travels only in the future and not the past 20:34 cy1 He meant to ask what is that IP address for, which he should have known. 20:34 * PilzAdam destroys the time machine 20:34 leo_rockway PilzAdam: one second per second, right? 20:34 NekoGloop I spent a week in my friend's house. I had more computer problems to solve than an IT technician has in a year 20:34 cy1 leo_rockway: depending on your reference frame! 20:35 tinoesroho Why didn`t ya just install Linux on his PCÉ 20:35 NekoGloop Because Linux causes more errors 20:35 leo_rockway I have a friend who offers people with Windows problems to install Ubuntu on their comps. He charges 5 bucks for that and offers lifetime support for free. 20:35 leo_rockway he rarely gets support calls. 20:36 PilzAdam NekoGloop, linux only causes problems at the beginnig 20:36 tinoesroho Ha. Smart. 20:36 PilzAdam and windows all the time 20:36 NekoGloop Linux causes more errors in that short amount of time than a windows comp does in our lifetimes 20:36 leo_rockway most people trying to install GNU/Linux complain it's hard... but they have never even tried to install Windows. 20:37 tinoesroho "The problem is an I/O error. Ignorant Operator." 20:37 leo_rockway and installing GNU/Linux these days is a walk in a park for the mots part. 20:37 leo_rockway most* 20:37 NekoGloop I had to install windows on a comp before 20:37 NekoGloop that was not at all hard 20:37 tinoesroho Just pop in a LiveCD, click install, select option ("Share hard drive!"), and go. 20:37 leo_rockway you can even browse the web while it installs 20:37 tinoesroho Windows freaking 98 on 486. Problems ahoy. 20:38 tinoesroho Or Win 98 on a freaking P4. 20:38 tinoesroho God. 20:38 PilzAdam tomorow i will realease my farming mod 20:38 tinoesroho It couldn`t use more than a gig of ram. 20:38 PilzAdam ggt 20:38 PilzAdam bye 20:38 tinoesroho AND IT FREAKING COULD`USE ONLY 100 GB of HDD! 20:38 tinoesroho See ya 20:40 tinoesroho Hey theTroy 20:40 NekoGloop I read that as "destroy" 20:40 leo_rockway Detrot 20:40 leo_rockway Detroit* 20:41 NekoGloop lolwat 20:41 iqualfragile im in the right channel 20:42 iqualfragile milions of linux-users bashing (pun) the few windows-fanboys 20:42 * leo_rockway doesn't use BASH o.o 20:43 * NekoGloop bashes iqualfragile's head in 20:43 tinoesroho I use SH myself. 20:43 iqualfragile zsh 20:44 leo_rockway zsh <3 20:44 iqualfragile nah, i dont even use a shel, i talk directly to the kernel using 2 copperwires 20:44 leo_rockway zsh is really neat. 20:45 NekoGloop can anyone point me to a decent documentation on the minetest api? 20:46 RealBadAngel oh, there is such thing? 20:46 NekoGloop nvm 20:46 theTroy I use MacOS 20:46 NekoGloop found it in lua_api.txt in the default folder 20:46 theTroy screw linux and windows 20:46 RealBadAngel same is in the forums neko 20:47 NekoGloop ok whatever 20:47 leo_rockway MacOS? As in MacOS 9? 20:48 tinoesroho don`t knock it. 20:48 tinoesroho OSX really sucks in comparison. 20:48 * tinoesroho grins runs and ducks 20:48 leo_rockway I have only used cheetah for a very short time... 20:48 leo_rockway I'm not a fan of the walled garden 20:48 NekoGloop ikr 20:48 theTroy walled gardens are awesome 20:49 theTroy you are spoon-fed what you must think and buy 20:49 theTroy isnt that just brilliance in complete ignorance? 20:49 leo_rockway theTroy: you'd be perfect as president of my country... 20:49 theTroy I'll pass if your country isnt a world :P 20:49 NekoGloop leo_rockway: Would that be the USA? ;) 20:50 leo_rockway Argentina 20:50 * tinoesroho Points at Mitt Romney. theTroy would make a good replacement 20:50 * tinoesroho runs away back to Chile. 20:50 leo_rockway I personally think that both Romney and Obama suck... 20:50 leo_rockway it would be complicated for me to vote there 20:50 tinoesroho So do I. I hope that Romney loses, otherwise us Canadians are in for a world of trouble. 20:51 * tinoesroho finally gets his Chilean Citizenship 20:51 theTroy But seriously guys, if we talk politics. Most countries are bound in ill minded populace that is being scared by one wolf or the other, making them completely ignore that they are running around like morons, barely get anything to eat, and are being skinnned alive in the process 20:51 tinoesroho True. 20:51 tinoesroho No matter what dictator you vote for, the wizard remains behind the controls. 20:52 theTroy and you have a choice between corporate america, or soviet china 20:52 theTroy >.> 20:52 NekoGloop lol "OUCH!!!" 20:52 * tinoesroho points to rudemacedon.ca 20:53 * tinoesroho liked Socialist Allende`s Chile 20:53 * NekoGloop points to idiot central 20:53 leo_rockway tinoesroho: and how did that end? =[ 20:54 tinoesroho Assassination from commie, I mean cappy, USA. 20:54 leo_rockway tinoesroho: exactly. 20:54 leo_rockway it's not only necessary to have a good leader 20:54 leo_rockway but to have the rest of the countrymen accept the leader 20:54 * tinoesroho points to Killing Hope by William Blum 20:54 leo_rockway when your own people sabotage their country it's impossible to go anywhere 20:54 tinoesroho Damned Catholics and capitalists. ("He`s a godless commie!") 20:55 tinoesroho Mind you, most were bankrolled by the CIA. Case in point: Truckers Union. 20:55 tinoesroho ("Where did you get those steaks, while the rest are eating poorlyÉ" "The CIA (laugh)") 20:56 tinoesroho God, are we ever screwed. 20:56 tinoesroho All the sheeple are blundering around bleating over who`s the better butcher, when we are all ignoring the wolf in our midst. 20:56 tinoesroho I`m no marxist, but Capitalism is truly a parasite. 20:57 theTroy Can you come up with a better system? 20:57 theTroy Capitalism or anything else is not a parasite 20:57 NekoGloop ... One built out of mesecons 20:57 theTroy its just an imperfect economical model 20:57 * NekoGloop grins and runs 20:58 theTroy Everything that is exploitable will be exploited 20:58 leo_rockway NekoGloop: that system would be a Mess(e). 20:58 tinoesroho Oy. 20:58 leo_rockway NekoGloop: and people would try to mine it to extinction 20:58 NekoGloop lol 20:59 tinoesroho It`s tough to shift from an economy of scarcity to one of plenty. 21:01 theTroy well, history is full of different attempts at economical and political models 21:01 theTroy you have a different range between people, efficiency and exploitability 21:01 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkI5iZmUs5Q&feature=related BAD APPLE BITCHEZ 21:01 theTroy what everything slams into is education and attention level of the populace 21:01 NekoGloop Alright, I've f*cked with default for enough today 21:02 theTroy we would not have democracy in ancient times 21:02 theTroy because its simply infeasible 21:02 tinoesroho Inefficient. 21:03 tinoesroho Real democracy wouldn`t consist of voting for dicators, but direct voting from every member of the population. 21:03 tinoesroho And it`s now only feasible today - google Liquid Democracy 21:03 NekoGloop print("In "..goverment.." you get free cake") 21:04 theTroy there are issues with those 21:04 NekoGloop er... 21:04 NekoGloop print("In "..government.." you get free cake") 21:04 theTroy the idea of democracy is not simply getting "what most want" 21:04 theTroy protection of minorities will vanish in pure democracy 21:04 theTroy and you might end up with horrible discrimination 21:06 tinoesroho And we don`t have that todayÉ 21:06 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3Q-KPMMLY OH GOD YES 21:06 theTroy not to an extend that would happen with pure and decentralised democracy 21:07 tinoesroho Civil rights only really came to be in the 70s. And that`s with a democracy for hundreds of years. 21:07 theTroy extent* 21:07 theTroy yeah, but in this case you would end up with neighbours voting out a guy because he looks weird 21:07 tinoesroho A more limited democracy - where the constitution would be over all (and 99% support required for any amendment) would work well. 21:08 theTroy or based on some other nonsensical reasons 21:08 tinoesroho "Let`s revoke voting for all Apple users!" 21:08 NekoGloop lol 21:09 iqualfragile thats a great idea 21:09 tinoesroho Doesn`t seem like a bad idea with all these young hipsters supporting Ron Paul. 21:09 * tinoesroho cues joke 21:09 iqualfragile steins gate 21:09 theTroy On a serious note, what do you recon of having a minimum education level raised so that 75% of population can't actually vote? ^,^ 21:09 theTroy that would eliminate most of the apple users AND windows users 21:09 NekoGloop Agreed, theTroy 21:10 NekoGloop Except not me ;) 21:10 tinoesroho Only about 20% of our citizens are literate. 21:10 tinoesroho Less than 1 in 5 reads news. 21:10 theTroy thats not true 21:10 theTroy over the world, maybe 21:10 tinoesroho More than 50% watch FOX. 21:10 NekoGloop I dont read the news because it's just too depressing ;) 21:10 tinoesroho And this in Canada. 21:10 theTroy but 1st world countires have about 70% literacy 21:10 theTroy if not more 21:10 tinoesroho In GB, over a third of the population is functionally illiterate. This, with mandatory schooling. 21:11 tinoesroho To put it mildly, we`re screwed. 21:11 iqualfragile while this would be a great idea, because the decicions would be wiser there are two problems: 21:11 jin_xi one third? i find that hard to believe 21:11 iqualfragile first: it would not be a democracy anymore 21:11 NekoGloop That is to say, the human race is stupid 21:11 iqualfragile wich has some serious philosophical implications 21:12 tinoesroho We`ve put control of the nation into the hands of uneducated masses that vote by religion or whatever their favorite newscaster says. 21:12 tinoesroho We should at least force voters to pass a current events quiz before voting. 21:12 NekoGloop lol 21:12 tinoesroho And maybe our "house of representatives" 21:12 iqualfragile sec: 75 percen? 50 ? 25? 5? wich would you choose? 21:13 NekoGloop can you imagine how long that would take? 21:13 tinoesroho God. 21:13 tinoesroho The world would be better off because of it. 21:13 tinoesroho Then again, in Canada, voting takes FOREVER. 21:13 iqualfragile that on the other hand would be a good idea, giveng out a quizz 21:13 tinoesroho Totally. 21:13 theTroy The thing is that we cling on democrazy as "best of the worst" and "for the people" 21:13 theTroy either educate and make the whole population care 21:13 tinoesroho This with only a 50% turnout. 21:13 theTroy or do not use democracy 21:14 iqualfragile oh, you are living in america, righ? how is life without democracy? 21:14 tinoesroho In canada, only 60% of eligible people showed up to polls. And most - in my area - are cranky old white guys who don`t read the news. 21:14 * vicscandl lives in his own little world...but it's ok, they know me here. 21:15 tinoesroho I` 21:15 iqualfragile there are many non-voters here, too 21:15 tinoesroho I would move to Estonia, but the situation will be just as bad in twenty years. 21:15 tinoesroho The problem with "Representative democracy" is that it only represents the rich or powerful (usually 2-in-1). 21:17 * tinoesroho goes to escapingthematrix.org 21:17 tinoesroho Good book, wish our citizens all had a copy. 21:19 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQWbyQh9y8 21:23 tinoesroho G2G 21:24 saschaheylik_ iqualfragile: appereantly tons of prisons, tanks on trains and military police to sum it up... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduQmQC5cFI 21:25 iqualfragile awsome! so what are you going to do about it? 21:25 saschaheylik_ im not american 21:26 saschaheylik_ im just aware that what is happening there right now is the unfolding of a global agenda and therefore my concern too 21:26 saschaheylik_ all i can do is think about how to prepare for this stuff expanding 21:27 iqualfragile da du aus östereich zu stammen scheinst können wir uns auch (um den ganzen restlichen channel zu trollen) auf deutsch unterhalten ^^ 21:28 NekoGloop wtf? 21:28 iqualfragile german 21:28 sfan5 ja klar, ich versteg deutsch aucg 21:28 sfan5 -g +h 21:28 iqualfragile na los, kommt raus! wer schließt sich mit an? 21:29 sfan5 niemand... 21:29 saschaheylik_ wir können. 21:29 NekoGloop ANGLASH 21:30 sfan5 NekoGloop: HSALGNA 21:30 saschaheylik_ du meschugge? 21:30 saschaheylik_ (u mad?) 21:30 NekoGloop lolwat 21:30 iqualfragile ich bilde jetzt einen sinnfreien satz mit nekogloop drinnen, damit er denkt wir würden über ihn lästern wäre es nett wenn ihr mit gelächter antworten würdet 21:30 saschaheylik_ idk german is weird 21:30 sfan5 NekoGloop: tawlol 21:30 NekoGloop d'aww... 21:30 saschaheylik_ hahahaha 21:30 NekoGloop :3 21:31 * NekoGloop has no idea what iqualfragile said :3 21:31 iqualfragile vielen dank 21:31 saschaheylik_ extremely ignenious 21:31 sfan5 NekoGloop: ...wwa'd 3: 21:31 saschaheylik_ NekoGloop: no shit? 21:32 sfan5 NekoGloop: 3: dias eligarflauqi tahw aedi on sah 21:32 NekoGloop SHUT UP 21:32 saschaheylik_ iqualfragile: u better not tell him about google translate 21:32 NekoGloop I know about google translate. 21:32 saschaheylik_ oh right youre just lazy then 21:33 iqualfragile no way, why would i, besides: he cant use it, you are using it allready 21:33 sfan5 NekoGloop: PU THUS 21:33 NekoGloop I dont want to wait 10+ minutes to get a translation 21:33 saschaheylik_ NekoGloop: lol? 21:33 iqualfragile tor? 21:33 saschaheylik_ so? 21:33 saschaheylik_ its not nearly THAT slow 21:33 sfan5 NekoGloop: .etalsnart tuoba wonk I 21:35 sfan5 NekoGloop: noitalsnart a teg ot setunim +01 tiaw ot tnaw tnod I 21:36 iqualfragile sfan5: wonderfull idea 21:37 sfan5 iqualfragile: aedi llufrednow :5nafs 21:41 NekoGloop sfan5: sfan5: wonderful idea :eligarflauqi 21:46 NekoGloop He's OFF 21:55 NekoGloop Chat died xD 22:53 RealBadAngel updated technic mod if any1 wanna check 22:54 NekoGloop OH 22:54 NekoGloop MY 22:54 NekoGloop GOD 22:54 NekoGloop THE 22:54 NekoGloop CHAT 22:54 NekoGloop LIVES 22:54 NekoGloop ;) 22:54 RealBadAngel lol 22:54 RealBadAngel i think i made cool stuff with my battery boxes 22:55 NekoGloop ok 22:55 NekoGloop whatever 22:56 JamieWill Im looking to buy a new PC reasonably cheap byt with good specs mainly for gaming any recommendations? 22:57 leo_rockway > cheap pc 22:57 leo_rockway > for gaming 22:57 FreeFull Psh, buying 22:57 FreeFull Real men build their own 22:57 leo_rockway new games require nothing short of your own nuclear substation to run. 22:57 JamieWill LoL ^ 22:57 JamieWill Basic games tho 22:57 thexyz why do you need new games? 22:57 thexyz they're almost all shit 22:58 leo_rockway I'd like to play Max Payne 3 22:58 JamieWill I know its a new PC im wanting! 22:58 * JamieWill thinks you didnt read it right 22:58 FreeFull My laptop plays Minetest and Warsow just fine 22:58 thexyz what's your current specs? 22:59 JamieWill Yes but I want a PC with decent CPU 22:59 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/batterybox.png 22:59 JamieWill Well ill keep that to my self 22:59 JamieWill mainly cuz i cba hecking 23:00 NekoGloop Only "new" game that isnt shit: Minetest 23:00 JamieWill lol ^ 23:00 * JamieWill thinks NekoGloop is correct! 23:03 JamieWill Processor: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N455 @1.66GHz 1.67GHz 23:03 thexyz i was talking about AAA games, of course 23:03 JamieWill Installed memory (RAM): 1.00 GB 23:04 JamieWill System type: 32-bit 23:04 JamieWill Now do u see why i want a PC that is new? 23:06 JamieWill Its a load of SHIT! 23:06 thexyz lol 23:07 thexyz now VanessaE should suddenly appear 23:07 thexyz and tell you something about spectrums/etc 23:07 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: That seems neat. 23:09 JamieWill lol 23:09 * JamieWill thinks VanessaE is AFK 23:10 thexyz btw, what games do you want to play? 23:12 NakedFury planetside 2 23:16 NakedFury actually I wish more games were open source 23:18 * VanessaE suddenly appears 23:19 VanessaE (however I have nothing of particular importance to say :D ) 23:19 NakedFury start a new conversation? 23:26 VanessaE NakedFury: I was referring to thexyz's comment about spectrum/etc 23:30 NekoGloop lol 23:33 leo_rockway C64! 23:33 VanessaE C64, of course yes. 23:33 NekoGloop N64! 23:33 leo_rockway NakedFury: Doom3 was freed. 23:33 VanessaE Spectrum indeed. blasphemer. :-) 23:33 leo_rockway well, engine... 23:35 NakedFury I saw that leo 23:41 leo_rockway and there's always Minetest 23:41 VanessaE of course. 23:42 leo_rockway I want proper mobs! D: 23:42 leo_rockway I'll give a hug to whoever codes proper mobs o.o 23:43 NekoGloop I get enough hugs, thank you ;) 23:54 leo_rockway mobs and lower CPU usage. Who wants a hug? 23:55 leo_rockway anyway, time to go home 23:56 Madchicken13 Hello? 23:56 Madchicken13 Anyone here? 23:59 NakedFury hi