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00:07 JamieWill Alt = F4 lets go
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00:07 JamieWill lol
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00:12 leo_rockway JamieWill: my IRC runs on a remote server... if I hit alt+F4 you wouldn't see me disconnecting o.0
00:13 JamieWill oh
00:13 leo_rockway that's how I'm online 24/07
00:13 hmmmm i need to talk to celeron before i do anything
00:13 hmmmm i have to know what style he's conforming to
00:13 leo_rockway isn't there a style guide somewhere?
00:13 JamieWill lol
00:13 hmmmm i would use the source as a style guide but it's all varied and inconsistent
00:14 JamieWill impulse is back!
00:14 hmmmm sometimes it's if (foo)\n{\nbar();\n}
00:14 hmmmm sometimes the { is on the same line
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00:14 hmmmm sometimes there are no spaces in between keywords and control structures
00:14 leo_rockway what a mess!
00:14 NakedFury use your most clean style
00:15 NakedFury forget what style he uses since he switches based on his mood apparently
00:15 leo_rockway I think writing a style guide and putting it on the wiki would be an improvement.
00:15 hmmmm also, this is a personal thing but, i find that putting { on a different line is very difficult to read
00:15 leo_rockway if celeron starts to follow it, that is.
00:15 hmmmm also makes things bloaty
00:15 leo_rockway hmmmm: I think so too, but most people disagree.
00:15 NakedFury something here
00:15 NakedFury {
00:15 NakedFury }
00:15 NakedFury end
00:16 NakedFury like that?
00:16 hmmmm yes
00:16 NakedFury you would do something {
00:16 hmmmm yeah.
00:16 NakedFury stuf } end?
00:16 hmmmm my own style is very close to the Linux kernel style
00:16 hmmmm which is rather optimal, probably why it was adopted
00:17 NakedFury then use it
00:17 hmmmm I can't help but feel like the bloaty coding style alone contributes to about 40% of the code
00:17 hmmmm in terms of LoC
00:18 JamieWill great chat!
00:19 hmmmm alright i can do this
00:20 leo_rockway how does one escape chars in Lua?
00:20 leo_rockway http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/532820/
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00:20 leo_rockway I don't want it to print anything
00:25 jin_xi there is a style guide somewhere
00:26 jin_xi it talks about {'s
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00:27 jin_xi http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=contrib here
00:30 vicscandl ahhhhhh cerveza sabor completo!
00:30 Keegan__ hello
00:30 vicscandl yo Keeg, whats the happs?
00:31 NekoGloop Torches burn. LOGIC == 0
00:31 vicscandl hmmmm: i was thinking that due to the use of newline as the terminator, you can't edge TCP transmissons by whitestripping the scriptcode.
00:33 hmmmm was that ment to me?
00:33 vicscandl data structures can be trimmed as the ',' is used, and then between the concat ('..') most put spaces, but as a whole.... without an actual line terminator that is used....
00:33 vicscandl hmmmm: yea
00:33 hmmmm i don't really get what you're saying
00:33 vicscandl code style vs. its use in reality
00:33 hmmmm what does it have to do with tcp transmissions?
00:33 vicscandl ok, if you have a EOL terminator, like ';' in c.
00:33 vicscandl you can strip all the whitespace and save TCP traffic when transmitting the scripted code back and forth
00:34 hmmmm what scripted code?
00:34 vicscandl lua
00:34 hmmmm i'm not working with lua
00:34 vicscandl hmmmm: yea, i know...
00:34 Keegan__ nothing
00:34 hmmmm i'm confused
00:34 NekoGloop he's f*cking up minetest itself
00:34 vicscandl hmmmm: but you *are* working on the system that interpets it for use to make the game
00:35 hmmmm no, right now i'm fixing the_game()
00:35 vicscandl hmmmm: from your comments about the code earlier, i assume you are looking for speed/cpu cycle enhancements vs in-game tools?
00:35 vicscandl hmmmm: perhaps i read your verbage incorrect.
00:36 hmmmm right now i just want to get the shutdown working properly on my system
00:36 hmmmm i don't plan on doing speed enhancements until later on when i go to fix worldedit copy and paste
00:37 hmmmm basically i'm just doing cleanups and fixes at this point
00:37 vicscandl hehehe... ok, just throwin my $0.02
00:37 NekoGloop And that made $0.00
00:37 hmmmm i giggled :)
00:38 vicscandl NekoGloop: perfect, cause information should be free, as in beer.
00:38 NekoGloop ... I mean that made no cents (sense)
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01:09 hmmmm inventorymanager.cpp:376 - what on earth?
01:09 hmmmm if(!dst_can_put_count != -1){
01:09 hmmmm what is he trying to do exactly?  i can tell it's a bug in 50% of the cases
01:16 jin_xi hey, its correct the other 50%, right?
01:16 hmmmm sure
01:17 vicscandl hmmmm: nasty
01:18 vicscandl so not(dst_can_put_count) is not equal to (-1)
01:18 vicscandl dst = 0; !(0) != -1
01:18 jin_xi heard people talking about a bug that eats their items
01:18 vicscandl dst = 1; !(1) != -1
01:19 NekoGloop it's called /pulverize ;)
01:19 hmmmm what's interesting is that dst_can_put_count is actually defined as an int and initialized with 65535
01:19 hmmmm like i said, i'm just not sure at all what the intent of that code is - i can't interpret it
01:20 vicscandl hmmmm: if that were me, i'd say i left some "testing code" behind as when i'm fighting an if, i'll just unit test it by hand with all options
01:21 jin_xi its the same in the check above
01:21 vicscandl jin_xi: then that's a sloppy-copy
01:22 hmmmm well, it's a bug that's going to detonate minetest at some point when i'm managing my inventory, just don't know when
01:22 hmmmm i'm not too concerned about the inventory anyway :p
01:22 vicscandl well, thats what we call it here at my codeshop
01:23 VanessaE there.
01:23 NekoGloop what?
01:23 hmmmm over here
01:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: please pull from https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons to get the latest changes
01:23 NekoGloop sure, as I start up a game
01:23 vicscandl VanessaE: oooo hoping later today to have my 0.1 up on git
01:23 VanessaE (s/pull/download a zip because iPAD is brain dead/)
01:23 NekoGloop I'm on my comp now
01:24 VanessaE ok
01:24 NekoGloop Have been for hours now :P
01:24 mrtux vanessae, i followed you on github
01:26 jin_xi night all
01:26 mrtux night
01:26 * vicscandl tucks jin_xi in for the night...
01:27 VanessaE night jin_xi
01:27 VanessaE mrtux: like what you're seeing so far? :-)
01:27 mrtux yes
01:28 mrtux i like how mesecons is turning into
01:28 NekoGloop Delayers are still useless
01:28 mrtux everything looks more real
01:28 VanessaE Neko:  i used them.  they work fine for me
01:28 mrtux the nodeboxes and such
01:28 vicscandl VanessaE: i second mrtux's oppinion
01:28 NekoGloop Please, use my full name to highlight me :P
01:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: make sure you are putting power into the correct end of the delayer
01:28 vicscandl NekoGloop: update your regex to include Neko silly
01:28 VanessaE the arrow thereon is supposed to suggest the current flow.
01:29 NekoGloop The one that the arrow is pointin away from is the input?
01:29 NekoGloop Yeah, still useless.
01:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: I know for a fact they work because I *just* used them.
01:29 vicscandl NekoGloop: people start talking about vics vapo-rub and my filter goes bonkers!
01:29 NekoGloop Do they support Minetest?
01:30 * vicscandl hands Neko a new tube of model glue...
01:30 NekoGloop ok, for some reason the delayer lights up rnaomdly
01:31 VanessaE whaa?
01:31 VanessaE are you sure you have the *most* recent code?
01:31 VanessaE and that you don't have two copies of the mesecons mod floating around?
01:32 NekoGloop the delayer is working, just lights up whenever it GETS power, not SENDS power
01:32 VanessaE correct
01:32 sdzen ive used delayers before
01:32 VanessaE I'll bring that up with jeija tomorrow, see if we can find a way to make it light up on output instead
01:32 sdzen set up too many in tandem they stop running
01:34 sdzen it took me about 8 in tandem full delay setting to do so though
01:34 VanessaE it seems like these latest changes result in faster circuits btw
01:35 NekoGloop now I have a repeating tune
01:35 NekoGloop And it's getting annoying
01:35 VanessaE hehe
01:35 VanessaE well at least you got the tune to PLAY this time ;-)
01:36 NekoGloop I may have to make some changes
01:36 VanessaE sldo, you should be able to craft player detectors now :-)
01:36 VanessaE also*
01:36 OldCoder I've built MT client previously for my distro. Will built server and client for new releases soon. Question: Would it be possible to cross-build the Windows client?
01:36 OldCoder *Will build
01:37 VanessaE make a microcontroller, combine that with steel blocks and mesecon wire as with the old "IC" based recipe.
01:37 mrtux lol mesecon arduinos
01:37 VanessaE OldCoder: not sure how; seems like windows releases are built on that OS instead of windows
01:37 VanessaE mrtux: more or less!
01:37 VanessaE they're fairly basic but capable
01:37 mrtux the microcontrollers should be able to be programmed
01:38 mrtux so you could make them do stuff
01:38 VanessaE they can be, yes.
01:38 VanessaE right click, enter some code as described in the PDF :-)
01:38 mrtux lol
01:38 * vicscandl laughs: "/time 5150" is sunriseish
01:38 VanessaE or click one of the shortcut buttons for AND, NOR, Flipflop, etc.
01:39 mrtux I might make the fireplace mod I'm working on mesecons-compatible
01:39 mrtux so you can turn on fireplaces with mesecons :P
01:39 VanessaE heh
01:39 OldCoder VanessaE, well yes; normally they would be
01:39 vicscandl VanessaE: beyond my demo later tonight, my mod will prob require mesecons for future expansion...
01:39 OldCoder But things can be cross-built
01:39 OldCoder Who builds the Windows EXEs?
01:40 VanessaE OldCoder: I think sfan5 does
01:40 VanessaE vicscandl: cool :-()
01:40 VanessaE vicscandl: I need to update homedecor btw - it still uses the old IC to craft TVs and stereos
01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, thank you
01:40 mrtux i suck at graphics :(
01:41 NekoGloop lol only half of my piston door closed xD
01:41 OldCoder mrtux, then do something else; I am confident there is something you will find worthwhile
01:41 mrtux it's dissapointing because my mother is an art teacher...
01:41 VanessaE I seem to be fairly good at gfx :-)
01:41 OldCoder mrtux, So?
01:41 mrtux lol
01:41 OldCoder mrtux, Are you your mother?
01:41 vicscandl i like VanessaE's graphics
01:41 mrtux no
01:41 OldCoder Sounds like a Dr. Suess book
01:41 OldCoder "Are you your mother
01:41 OldCoder No I am not
01:41 OldCoder But I had thought
01:41 OldCoder I was"
01:41 mrtux but i'm good at art, just not on the computer
01:41 OldCoder
01:41 OldCoder mrtux, Then draw
01:41 vicscandl OldCoder: +5
01:41 mrtux someone buy me a graphics tablet thanks
01:41 OldCoder Or perhaps try Inkscape
01:42 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmm inkscape
01:42 mrtux hmm good idea
01:42 VanessaE vicscandl: the irony is, I'm too lazy to update my photorealistic tex pack to match the changes jeija and I have made over the past couple weeks :-)
01:42 mrtux vector graphics ftw
01:42 OldCoder Use the portable version
01:42 mrtux ok
01:42 OldCoder http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/inkscape_portable
01:42 vicscandl VanessaE: you are excused... code over graphics in my book. pretty pictures can wait over functionality
01:43 mrtux hopefully it will run on my sh---- commputer
01:43 OldCoder mrtux, it should be fine
01:43 vicscandl OldCoder: snap! that android capable?
01:43 OldCoder vicscandl, Inkscape? I don't think so but checking
01:43 mrtux i'm downloading inkscape portable
01:43 mrtux vector graphics :)
01:43 vicscandl mrtux: inkscape is effing awesome: FOSS version of illustrator, fully functional
01:43 NekoGloop now you can turn off my little music loop if it gets too annoying :3
01:43 mrtux ok
01:44 mrtux that's good to know :)
01:44 OldCoder vicscandl, Looks like no but you are not the first one to express interest
01:44 vicscandl inkscape is to illustrator as gimp is to photoshop
01:44 OldCoder ^ yes
01:44 mrtux now i need a wacom tablet
01:44 vicscandl vicscandl is to icebox as beer is to empty
01:44 mrtux I'm good at drawing, I just can't draw with a mouse
01:45 sdzen i draw better with my mouse than my wacom tablet some days
01:45 sdzen today is one of those days
01:45 mrtux if i was doing pixel art, a mouse is just fine obviously
01:48 vicscandl prefered: http://bit.ly/Kp6BzL
01:48 NekoGloop I dont own a tablet
01:48 OldCoder How much is a used but good condition tablet?
01:48 mrtux oh god a bit.ly link
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01:48 vicscandl mrtux: its so a link to goats.ex
01:48 vicscandl hahahah
01:49 mrtux lol
01:49 vicscandl ((its not, it goes to logitech's site; promise))
01:49 mrtux I have noscript and all those privacy addons in firefox so i'm technically safe
01:49 vicscandl mrtux: oh, thoes are soooo easy to get around.... :)
01:49 mrtux I'm a privacy freak
01:50 mrtux orly
01:51 vicscandl mrtux: yea, double bounce the shortener and then use a private shortener to bypass security.
01:51 mrtux hmm
01:51 vicscandl mrtux: only savehaven is a non-connected boxen. i still run a BBS for said reasons. :)
01:52 VanessaE vicscandl: you mean a real, honest-to-G*d dialup BBS?
01:52 vicscandl mrtux: yes, phone dialup
01:52 VanessaE cool!
01:52 mrtux awesome
01:52 vicscandl beleive it or not, my fully modded WWIV 4.12
01:52 VanessaE I thought the concept dead.  gives a good feeling they still exist
01:52 vicscandl wayne bell is a fucking hooker
01:52 VanessaE WWIV..  I remember that
01:52 mrtux now to go on ebay and buy a dialup modem
01:53 mrtux then hook up an old dos computer to it and telnet into it idk
01:53 vicscandl bbs darknet; complex is meshed into it as well. :)
01:53 servvs anyone here use fedora?
01:54 mrtux nope
01:54 vicscandl servvs: i have an old server that still runs it...
01:55 vicscandl servvs: thx, going to update that beast right now; damn
01:55 sdzen I used it once I think
01:55 servvs lol
01:55 sdzen does fedora 7 count as fedora?
01:55 servvs I have been thinking about switching from ubuntu to fedora
01:55 sdzen or is it too old?
01:55 servvs eh, probably
01:55 OldCoder mrtux, Go the opposite way. You don't need NoScript. Simply delete Flash and Java and all closed-source toolbars
01:55 OldCoder Do not use Red Hat
01:55 vicscandl i think they are beyond 9 or something now
01:56 OldCoder No RHEL or Fedora
01:56 sdzen last i heard it was at like 16
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01:56 servvs 17 now
01:56 OldCoder RPM Distros are Death
01:56 OldCoder :-)
01:56 servvs but from what I've read, it has poor support for drivers for propriety hardware
01:56 sdzen i thought yggdrasil distros were true death?
01:56 servvs not sure what wouldn't work after I installed it, lol
01:56 vicscandl most of my servers run centos or debian; have a few freeBSD boxen for database.
01:57 servvs yeah I use debian or ubuntu for servers
01:57 vicscandl home machines are all ubuntu for ease of use.
01:57 servvs the reason I am thinking about switching
01:57 mrtux i like inkscape
01:57 servvs is, I updated my ubuntu today, and it failed to boot after that
01:57 mrtux i can now draw with a mouse :)
01:57 vicscandl servvs: best suggestion... buy a cheap old box and setup a dedicated server if you can.
01:57 OldCoder mrtux, It will take time to learn fully. But somebody like you can master it.
01:58 servvs had to go to a tty station to manually install lightdm because GDM started to fail
01:58 servvs I have one set up vicscandl
01:58 mrtux i'm just messing with it oldcoder, might use it to make some graphics and sh*t
01:58 servvs 2.7ghz dual core, 3 gigs of ram, lol
01:58 vicscandl servvs: multi-boot that trashboxen and try all the distros
01:59 servvs I might try that, don't have anything on there that I need except for my eggdrop conf
01:59 vicscandl my prefered method is to have a bunch of 16g thumb drives that headless boot my machines and talk to the server for programs and the NAS for storage.
01:59 OldCoder mrtux, Sure
01:59 OldCoder trashboxen
01:59 OldCoder ^ goes in Cool Phrases file
01:59 vicscandl OldCoder: aye, trashboxen
02:00 vicscandl OldCoder: previously known as bitchbox
02:00 OldCoder The two terms are the same?
02:00 OldCoder Define
02:00 servvs my trashbox ran windows 8
02:00 servvs will never run windows again after seeing that eyesore
02:00 OldCoder Define
02:00 vicscandl OldCoder: hardware that don't mean shit to you
02:00 OldCoder Ah
02:00 OldCoder Disposable
02:01 sdzen i thought those were shanty servers?
02:01 vicscandl so yea, trashboxen = bitchbox = disposable/easily replaced hardware
02:01 vicscandl sdzen: shanty? that come with a fat spliff too?
02:02 * vicscandl tunes the cablemusic to the reggae channel
02:03 vicscandl ok, i'm getting pissed at my luacode
02:03 vicscandl i'm gonna actually ask for some help for a change instead of balls-to-the-walling it
02:03 VanessaE "balls to the walling it"
02:03 VanessaE lol
02:03 VanessaE that's a new one :-)
02:04 VanessaE is that a step above or a step below brute-forcing something?
02:04 vicscandl ie: not asking for help to see how far i can get before i give up on a new language
02:04 vicscandl its more a battle with the api/docs at this point...
02:04 vicscandl and just not finding code in repos that does what i want, nor the default game mods
02:04 vicscandl ok, here we go, lemme go pastebin/imgur some shit so this makes sense
02:06 vicscandl {{ right now, this is for me, not you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ }}
02:07 vicscandl pre-pastebin: ok, i have some "items" that have a minetest.register_craft() but no minetest.register_node()
02:08 vicscandl i have another item, that when fueled, will produce these items and eject them above if the node above is "air"
02:08 vicscandl they drop into game as a "small icon" instead of a full node as there is no node def.
02:09 VanessaE at least, you need a register_craftitem call
02:09 vicscandl what i *want* to do is find out if there is one of the "small icon" items in the node above.
02:09 vicscandl VanessaE: they are in there as well
02:09 VanessaE ok
02:09 VanessaE so you want to look for the presence of an entity then
02:09 vicscandl its generating fine, its just it will push all 4 generations into the node above
02:09 VanessaE good question :-)
02:09 vicscandl VanessaE: codesample?
02:10 vicscandl or the api call to do so as i'm not a googlephobe.
02:10 VanessaE might be easier to place a transparent cube there and select *that*
02:10 vicscandl VanessaE: no, because i don't really *want* a node in that space...
02:10 VanessaE but that won't tell you if entities are there, unless of course you always place/remove the cube :-)
02:10 VanessaE oops
02:10 VanessaE ok then I dunno :-)
02:10 * VanessaE looks in the api
02:11 vicscandl i'm thinking that this could also be an issue: when you just place the generator in a node on a fresh worldbuild, sometimes the call produces nil as the node above being air is not defined in the sql db (assumption)
02:12 VanessaE the only thing I see so far is the get_luaentity() function
02:12 VanessaE (but how it is used isn't documented)
02:12 vicscandl lemme go open the server up so you can log in; you have an rc1 client handy?
02:12 VanessaE yeah
02:12 vicscandl VanessaE: its going to lag as its wifi to my lappy; sorry
02:12 VanessaE noprob
02:13 * VanessaE waits...
02:14 * VanessaE waits some more...
02:15 vicscandl VanessaE: sorry, new router; gimme a min
02:15 vicscandl VanessaE: just changed providers into the house for my use; mainline offlimits for funtime. :(
02:15 VanessaE yeah yeah, excuses ;-)
02:16 VanessaE you on a metered connection or something
02:16 VanessaE ?
02:18 vicscandl VanessaE: no, cableboxen for fun; fios for company backup servers
02:18 VanessaE ah
02:18 VanessaE I forgot about that
02:18 vicscandl VanessaE: hang on, this new router is total CRAP
02:19 VanessaE no prob
02:19 * VanessaE waits even more...
02:19 VanessaE *taps foot impatiently*  *looks at wristwatch*
02:19 vicscandl VanessaE: ok, got the port forward working, now let me go compile another client so we can both connect
02:19 VanessaE ;-)
02:19 vicscandl VanessaE: fuck woman!
02:19 Basstard` Tom Waits even more.
02:19 VanessaE lol
02:19 vicscandl Basstard`: i <3 you for that one
02:19 VanessaE I'm just bustin on you vic :-)
02:20 Basstard` Bustin, eh?
02:20 vicscandl VanessaE: rightfully so... i'm lagging on my demo even!!!!!!!!!
02:23 VanessaE heh
02:23 hmmmm is there now a 'stone' biome in addition to default and desert?
02:24 hmmmm if not, i suspect that the mud flow function is failing in some portions of the map near deserts
02:24 VanessaE no but there is a rarely-generated "gravel" thing that shows up from time to time
02:24 VanessaE not so much a biome as a large patch thereof
02:25 hmmmm oh great
02:25 hmmmm yet another mapgen bug
02:26 VanessaE important thing about the map generator:  if you do manage to pull it back into C++, make sure you expose enough API hooks so existing mapgen-related mods can still work
02:26 hmmmm only ore generation is exposed through lua right now
02:26 hmmmm it seems like he came back to his senses!
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02:27 vicscandl building secondary client
02:27 hmmmm what are your opinions on dungeons?
02:27 vicscandl hmmmm: so thought of making a D&D type addon from v1
02:28 vicscandl hmmmm: there was a dungen generator in the back of the DM's guide...
02:28 hmmmm i'm talking about dungeons in minetest
02:28 VanessaE I have no use for dungeons personally
02:28 hmmmm lol
02:28 hmmmm you don't like mossy cobble?
02:28 vicscandl hmmmm: i'm talking about an algrothim that already works for "random dungeon generation"
02:29 VanessaE I didn't say that
02:29 hmmmm vicsandl, it's there already but it's partially broken.
02:29 VanessaE I just don't see a point that isn't already covered by caves in the existing mapgen
02:29 hmmmm and as a result it's disabled
02:29 vicscandl hmmmm: so rad, monster here, turn left there, trap here, treasure chest there...
02:29 VanessaE hmmmm: c55 also releases a dungeons-and-mobs mod
02:29 VanessaE released*
02:30 hmmmm oh, that's for dungeons too?
02:30 hmmmm great, nevermind then
02:30 VanessaE apparently so yeah
02:30 mrtux i never to inkscape
02:30 VanessaE in lua of course
02:30 mrtux i guess i just can't do graphics :P
02:39 mrtux I'm going to contribute to mesecons
02:39 mrtux all i'm going to do is just add a kind of wire
02:39 VanessaE a kind of wire?
02:40 mrtux yes
02:40 mrtux vertical mesecons
02:40 VanessaE already there.
02:40 VanessaE sorta
02:40 mrtux oh
02:40 VanessaE all you need to do is tweak the autorouting code to be able to go straight up 2+ blocks
02:41 mrtux sweet
02:41 mrtux nvm then
02:41 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing2.png
02:41 VanessaE that's what it does now
02:41 VanessaE I think if you stack them they go up too
02:41 VanessaE but not along the side of a node
02:41 mrtux nice
02:42 mrtux can it go up over 10 blocks
02:42 mrtux so i could make a huge lighting system for a tower?
02:42 VanessaE lemme see
02:42 mrtux ok
02:43 VanessaE ok
02:43 mrtux does it work?
02:43 VanessaE yes you *can* go vertical but it takes twice as much mese wire as going horizontal
02:43 mrtux oh
02:44 VanessaE I'll bring it up with jeija
02:44 mrtux it's ok though because i wouldn't have to wrap wires all around stuff
02:45 VanessaE anyway, I just stacked a bunch up about 8 high, 2 wide and the signal does propagate up
02:45 NakedFury question: does it allow more than one wire line in say a 1x1 tunnel?
02:45 VanessaE NakedFury: no.  that would require 2+ nodes inside the same space
02:45 NakedFury ok
02:46 NakedFury still vertical is better than nothing
02:46 mrtux i don't mind loosing wires because i always just do /giveme for them on my server :P
02:50 VanessaE yeah but what about tightening them?
02:56 mrtux I'm making a mod that adds apple juice to minetest
02:57 VanessaE cool
02:57 VanessaE good luck finding apples, they don't generate in 0.4.2 unless you have cpuhog-pack...er..nature pack
02:57 mrtux awwwwww :(
02:57 mrtux why did they remove apples
02:57 VanessaE be back in a bit..  time to bowl
02:58 mrtux ok
02:58 VanessaE it's a bug I'm sure.
02:58 VanessaE bbl
02:58 mrtux ok
02:58 mrtux i hope it's a bug
02:58 mrtux or my mod's useless
02:58 * vicscandl sends the scantaly clad male waiter towards VanessaE's lane...
02:59 mrtux i bet i could just use an older minetest_game game and keep my beloved apples
02:59 vicscandl i so just shuddered thinking back to the old MUD days...
03:00 vicscandl for all you kids out there: MUD == MMO, Zork style.
03:02 vicscandl is MT both UDP/TCP, or just TCP?
03:03 vicscandl {{ having issues with this stupid new router that is not a wrt54g! }}
03:05 vicscandl routers are so lame; they need to be able to DMZ more than a single internal ip address....
03:05 vicscandl s/^/commercial /
03:06 sdzen UDP
03:06 vicscandl sdzen: so yea, both.. thats prob my issue with this.. thx
03:07 * vicscandl slides sdzen a beverage of his choice...
03:10 hmmmm WTF, it's obviously tcp
03:10 Basstard` UCP
03:11 sdzen UDP
03:11 vicscandl hmmmm: i know that, some games don't require UDP as well...
03:11 * vicscandl hooks up the wireshark for this one...
03:12 sdzen only UDP!
03:12 vicscandl sdzen: really?
03:12 sdzen GRRRRRR
03:12 sdzen yes
03:12 vicscandl hgahahah i'm an asshat
03:12 vicscandl thx for pointing it out!
03:12 * vicscandl slides sdzen another beverage...
03:12 Basstard` How do you wear an asshat?
03:13 vicscandl Basstard`: with pride!
03:17 vicscandl images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=asshat&oq=asshat
03:29 * VanessaE is back
03:29 VanessaE only had two games in me today
03:29 VanessaE *pant* *heave* *sweat*
03:30 vicscandl 300's?
03:31 VanessaE I wish
03:31 VanessaE but I'm a pro, says the game :-)
03:34 mrtux i'm going to post in the forums now
03:34 mrtux on my mod
03:34 mrtux it adds in apple juice and water cups
03:35 VanessaE wait
03:36 VanessaE there are drinking glasses in the vessels mod. :-)
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03:36 mrtux oh
03:36 mrtux Eventually I might make it depend on the vessels mod i guesss
03:37 mrtux *guess
03:37 sdzen not depend
03:37 mrtux i hate dependencies
03:37 sdzen have an potional addition
03:37 sdzen optional*
03:37 mrtux I'm all ears.
03:37 mrtux what's the idea?
03:37 VanessaE vessels is slated to be included upstream
03:38 sdzen wirte the crafting recipes in just dont put the dependency
03:38 sdzen write*
03:38 VanessaE c55 seemed happy with it when last I checked
03:38 sdzen ive done it several times in my mods
03:38 mrtux oh nice
03:38 mrtux I'll wait for it to be in the main thing then i gues
03:38 mrtux *guess
03:39 VanessaE :(
03:39 VanessaE use it!!!!! :-)
03:39 mrtux i will later
03:39 mrtux i'm running out of time right now lol
03:42 VanessaE aw
03:44 VanessaE got it
03:44 VanessaE oops
03:44 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37399#p37399
03:44 mrtux feel free to review everything
03:47 mrtux i gtg
03:47 mrtux cya
03:47 mrtux bye
03:47 vicscandl < VanessaE> vessels is slated to be included upstream {{ WOOT! }}
03:49 VanessaE if c55 does as he implied.
03:49 vicscandl codefame is sexy
03:49 sdzen ten years later
03:50 sdzen c55: added this feature which is now obsolete
03:50 vicscandl i gotta say this; all in all, i'm happy with anything c55 throws at us... look at what so far has produced?!
03:51 vicscandl gripe all we want; we *do* have a game to play!
03:52 hmmmm i'm about to give up on this shit
03:53 hmmmm just too much crap
03:53 hmmmm kill me now
03:53 NakedFury the_game()?
03:53 hmmmm yeah
03:53 sdzen please keep going
03:53 hmmmm i don't get what's with all the random blocks
03:54 hmmmm there's no reason for the extra indentation, and it can trick people into thinking it's part of a control structure somewhere
03:54 sdzen where is this?
03:54 vicscandl hmmmm: you tried pushing the code thru a LINT process? (code beautifier)
03:54 hmmmm everywhere
03:54 hmmmm vicsacandl, no
03:55 hmmmm LINT won't fix this
03:55 hmmmm it's going to take a whole lot more than just running it through a program to make this 'beautiful'
03:55 hmmmm what i'm doing is NOT going to make the code beautiful, it'll make it managable.
03:56 hmmmm all of the big data structures and objects are local variables of the_game(), things that really ought to be globals
03:57 hmmmm i don't know if i should prepend g_ to all of them (i think not), again, he mixes it up
03:59 NakedFury well keep going please, any one capable of helping with the engine is welcome and encouraged. two thumbs up!
03:59 hmmmm really i wish i could nuke it all and start over
04:01 vicscandl hmmmm: sounds like once i get this lua scripting shit under wraps, i'll have to dive in there...
04:01 vicscandl hmmmm: my K&R ANSI C 1st edition is signed by both kerningham and ritchie.. :)
04:01 vicscandl i remember when C++ was a mere babe
04:03 vicscandl hell, i remember when you had to buy like 1 metric ton of books just to code a mac128
04:03 vicscandl stupid lisp/pascal bullshit
04:03 vicscandl i digress... back to mods..
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04:21 hmmmm vicscandl, really?  that would be great
04:21 hmmmm the_game() is certainly not the only 2000-line-function/mess
04:21 hmmmm I don't really understand what compelled celeron to write those things in the first place..
04:22 hmmmm I also want to remove #if 0 blocks
04:23 hmmmm they're obviously obsolete, large pieces of code that make the source ugly - if you want them back, you can paste them in from an earlier revision
04:23 hmmmm is my take, anyway
04:25 vicscandl hmmmm: git/mercurial/svn {fuck CVS} are gold
04:32 Keegan how do you download irc for linux give me a link plz and thank you
04:33 Keegan gtg
04:35 vicscandl too bad you left: sudo apt-get irssi
04:35 NakedFury google is banned in his country
04:35 VanessaE "Keegan, it's time for bed!"  -- Keegan's mother
04:35 vicscandl NakedFury: where is he coming from, china?
04:35 VanessaE irssi?  byte your tongue.   Pidgin is more his speed :-)
04:36 vicscandl VanessaE: agreed
04:36 VanessaE (for the rest of the world, Xchat is good enough :-) )
04:36 NakedFury no idea but some of the stuff he asks for can be found with google
04:36 vicscandl i'm actually stopping all Keegan bashing as he needs help
04:36 NakedFury linux has that market place
04:36 NakedFury really easy to type irc in it
04:37 vicscandl someone find out what country he is in; he always shows up on the webclient
04:37 VanessaE he's from Michigan apparently
04:37 VanessaE and may be learning-disabled.
04:37 vicscandl wtf?
04:37 VanessaE yeah wtf indeed
04:37 vicscandl well the learning-disabled i've been told about...
04:38 vicscandl as much of an ircasshole that i am, i'm all for education
04:38 vicscandl the fact that he has not left; he is worth it, period.
04:38 VanessaE he is, as Abe and I would say, a Mich-ugena.  (a crazy Michigan resident)
04:38 VanessaE (meshugena, "a crazy person")
04:38 vicscandl regardless of any physical issue he may have.
04:39 VanessaE you, an asshole?
04:39 VanessaE no.
04:39 VanessaE I know a few who make you look like the fucking king of wishful thinking :-)
04:39 * vicscandl has a close friend with cerebreral paulsy (sp?)...
04:39 VanessaE palsy.
04:39 vicscandl VanessaE: updated my avatar on the forum, you can see what i look like now... :)
04:40 VanessaE one guy I've known for years, used to be a total prick by his and everyone else's opinion.  he's mellowed out considerably over the years.
04:40 VanessaE oh this oughtta be good..
04:40 VanessaE ;)
04:40 vicscandl VanessaE: this was after shaving off a jan-aug beard...
04:41 vicscandl scottish part of me flows thru said beard
04:41 VanessaE jeez I can barely see you
04:41 vicscandl hold, pushing full size to imgur
04:42 VanessaE yeah I can see the Scottsman in you.
04:42 VanessaE ok
04:46 Basstard` I can see the scotch in you.
04:49 vicscandl Basstard`: i can see my scotch disapearing faster than expected...
04:50 Basstard` vicscandl: Blame the bottle, do not blame me!
04:50 * vicscandl blames his supplier for being out of bushmills
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04:52 vicscandl Keegan_: !!! howdy!
04:53 vicscandl Keegan_: later!
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04:53 vicscandl oh i can't repeat this shit
04:53 Basstard` vicscandl: Keep at it.
04:54 NakedFury keegan what linux version are you using?
04:54 Keegan_ 10.04
04:54 NakedFury ubuntu?
04:54 Basstard` Uh
04:54 Keegan_ yes
04:54 Basstard` Well, that answer was wrong.
04:54 NakedFury there is a program in it, a marketplace
04:54 NakedFury open it and in the search box type irc
04:55 vicscandl Basstard`: naw, i've pushed his buttons enough... we *are* a community, right?
04:55 VanessaE keegan: get xchat.
04:55 VanessaE damn it
04:55 NakedFury again
04:55 vicscandl the more here, the faster MC goes down...
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04:55 NakedFury do it fast keegan
04:55 VanessaE keegan: get xchat.
04:55 Keegan_ ok
04:55 VanessaE use Synaptic to get it
04:55 Keegan_ don't know how to get chat
04:55 VanessaE or Ubuntu Software Center might have it
04:56 VanessaE it's already available, just go uuse your software manager/
04:56 VanessaE it's free open source
04:56 Basstard` VanessaE: Free or open source?
04:56 VanessaE it's both
04:56 NakedFury both
04:56 VanessaE Free Libre Open Source Software
04:56 NakedFury free open source is enough
04:57 Basstard` It's not if you're using that crap called Windows.
04:57 Keegan_ ok got the software center open
04:57 VanessaE NakedFury: Free != free/librea
04:57 VanessaE -a
04:57 VanessaE keegan, search for 'Xchat"
04:57 Basstard` VanessaE: huh?
04:57 Keegan_ got it
04:57 VanessaE Basstard`: what?
04:58 Keegan_ I did I install it already
04:58 NakedFury xchat is a not paid for open source program
04:58 NakedFury happy??
04:58 Keegan_ is there a ubuntu help channel?
04:58 VanessaE Basstard`: in the open source community, Free (with a capital "F") means unencumbered by stupid licenses, patents, etc.  free (with a lower case "f") or libre means it costs nothing
04:59 Basstard` VanessaE: For no cost you use gratis.
04:59 VanessaE Keegan_: yes, #ubuntu
04:59 VanessaE Basstard`: not in this case
04:59 vicscandl Keegan_: hey, what is your country of origin?
04:59 Basstard` VanessaE: In any case.
04:59 VanessaE keegan is in Michigan.
05:00 Basstard` VanessaE: And I'm rather in the free software community.
05:01 Keegan_ I'm on my iPod touch and I install a app for irc
05:01 VanessaE Basstard`: I've never heard it put any other way among FOSS advocates.
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05:03 vicscandl Keegan_: ok, where do you live *right now*
05:03 Basstard` VanessaE: Well now you have.
05:03 Keegan_ Michigan
05:04 VanessaE toldya.
05:04 vicscandl Keegan_: so you chat on an iPod, and you have some sort of other computer you play minetest with?
05:05 Keegan_ yes
05:05 Keegan_ I have two computers one for servers and one for normal playing
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05:09 NakedFury for the love of god use one computer to chat here
05:09 NakedFury cant help with you disconnecting ever minute
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05:11 vicscandl NakedFury: no worse than me the other day prior to my cable install.. :)
05:11 Keegan_ well my dumb iPod keeps disconnecting it self
05:12 hmmmm FREE as in FREEDOM
05:13 vicscandl free as in beer
05:13 VanessaE both :-)
05:13 VanessaE but fuck beer :-)
05:13 hmmmm I'd just like to interject for a moment
05:13 * VanessaE interjects..  BLAH!!!!!!!
05:13 hmmmm What you're referring to as 'Linux' is actually GNU/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, GNU+Linux
05:13 VanessaE :-)
05:13 vicscandl hmmmm: forwhy?
05:14 VanessaE because he's being pedantic ;-)
05:14 vicscandl i mean i get it, but why.
05:14 Keegan_ might go to bed right now it's only 1:14am
05:14 * vicscandl laughs out loud...
05:14 hmmmm Because Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities, and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX
05:14 vicscandl VanessaE: you said pedantic
05:14 * Basstard` hugs hmmmm
05:14 hmmmm Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it.
05:15 VanessaE heh
05:15 Keegan_ gtg good night
05:15 hmmmm Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and most of its users are not aware that it is basically teh GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
05:15 hmmmm There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it's just a part of the system they use.
05:15 vicscandl hmmmm: you sir, are 100% correct.
05:15 vicscandl hmmmm: you win a prize!
05:15 vicscandl hahaha
05:16 VanessaE indeed, correct.  But I think it's enough to say "Linux" :-)
05:16 Basstard` VanessaE: No.
05:16 vicscandl http://wordpirates.com/
05:16 hmmmm Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resoucres to the other programs you run.
05:16 Keegan_ gtg good night y'all
05:16 vicscandl night keeg
05:16 hmmmm The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself, it can only function in the context of a complete operating system.
05:16 Keegan_ have fun on here
05:16 hmmmm Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU, with Linux added, or GNU/Linux.
05:17 hmmmm All the so called 'Linux' distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
05:17 Basstard` Or with any other kernel.
05:17 vicscandl i call drunk-rant
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05:18 vicscandl self-included
05:18 hmmmm i am quite the stallman, aren't i
05:20 vicscandl richard? ha! nice
05:20 VanessaE I was about to say, you channeling RMS or something? :-)
05:21 Bad_Command what people less commonly know is that those android phones are all linux phones
05:21 * vicscandl has your rms worm hanging...
05:21 Basstard` And thus the homepage of Minetest should change its wording.
05:22 vicscandl fuck semantics. code you hookers!
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05:44 keegn1 hello
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06:23 Jeija hi sfan5
06:23 sfan5 hi
06:24 Jeija seit 1/2 stunde bis 1 stunde oder so
06:24 Jeija stehen wir nerds immer so früh auf?
06:24 Jeija srry
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06:48 Basstard` Duke Nukem vs Batman. Who wins?
06:50 Basstard` Neither. Chuck Norris wins.
07:19 * VanessaE is back
07:19 VanessaE beautiful meteors
07:19 VanessaE and for the first time in my life, I could see the Milky Way :-)
07:23 hmmmm no, duke nukem
07:23 hmmmm he kicks ass and chews bubble gum
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07:32 tripod i see the milky way everything VanessaE :D
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07:48 VanessaE hmmmm: yeah but last I heard, he was all out of bubble gum.
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09:55 PilzAdam Hello!
09:55 VanessaE morning PilzAdam.
09:57 jin_xi morning adam
09:58 VanessaE morning jin.
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10:02 jin_xi morning vanessa and all around!
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10:08 RealBadAngel hi
10:09 VanessaE morning RBA
10:09 jin_xi hi rba
10:27 VanessaE jin_xi: so what's new? :-)
10:27 * VanessaE tries to start some semblence of conversation
10:31 jin_xi not much
10:31 jin_xi have not been modding lately
10:32 VanessaE nothing to do?
10:32 jin_xi been thinking about how to wikify this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=475
10:34 VanessaE dunno
10:35 VanessaE a good tutorial needs a LOT of info
10:37 thexyz there should be documentation, not tutorials
10:37 thexyz i suggest copying this page/structure http://minetest.ru/wiki/script_api
10:38 VanessaE oh sure, add Cyrillic to the prerequisites ;-)
10:38 VanessaE the format looks good, but there's one hangup
10:38 thexyz i thought everybody now uses fonts with unicode support
10:38 VanessaE lately users seem to be forgetting how to scroll a page :-/
10:39 thexyz users != mod developers
10:39 VanessaE no,
10:39 thexyz i don't know what to say then
10:39 VanessaE but I'm sure you've noticed that some mod devs are little better than regular users
10:39 thexyz "forgetting how to scroll a page" — lol americans r so stupd?
10:40 VanessaE heh, I wouldn't go *that* far, but I have seen some pretty idiotic people out there.  As soon as they sit down in front of a computer, all common sense goes out the window.
10:41 VanessaE (also, my machine has unicode support/fonts, hence why I recognized the language :-) )
10:43 VanessaE remember, these are architects, theoretical physiscists, etc in the daytime, but "hurr durr I don't know what it means to move a folder" when they get home
10:43 jin_xi i think minetest will be "the way to lua" and even writing scripts for many
10:43 VanessaE and some of them want to learn to program :-)
10:43 VanessaE jin_xi: possibly - it is my first exposure to the language
10:43 jin_xi both tutorials and documentation is needed
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10:51 VanessaE hey TLP
10:51 thexyz documentation is more important
10:52 VanessaE documentation is important - as long as there are human-readable examples therein
10:52 thexyz ANY documentation is important when there is no documentation
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10:53 thexyz for example, what the fuck is "weight" property in entity definition table?
10:53 VanessaE I disagree somewhat
10:53 VanessaE hey cornernote
10:53 thexyz or "hp_max"? where is that used?
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10:53 VanessaE for example, is it truly better to have a crappy, hard-to-read document than none at all?  I mean, why expose a feature if you don't tell users how to actually *use* it
10:54 VanessaE I can't count the number of man pages I've read over the years that fall into that category
10:54 jin_xi well, i think if there was a wiki such things could be put up there to document the lack of documentations
10:55 VanessaE thexyz: regarding the API, there is a reason I refer to it as negatively as I do :-)(
10:55 thexyz VanessaE: yes, that's better than having no documentation at all
10:55 thexyz because that documentation can at least be "upgraded" to normal one
10:55 jin_xi i think if we wikified that document it would be a good start
10:55 thexyz right
10:55 cornernote if there was a community wiki, im sure the community would contribute to the api with examples
10:56 VanessaE I've read through the damn thing enough times to figure that half it was written while c55 was drunk, stoned, or exhausted ;-)
10:56 cornernote look at what php.net do in their function docs
10:56 thexyz but even that text file misses many definitions
10:56 thexyz oh, not that again
10:56 VanessaE huh?
10:56 thexyz cornernote: most parts of user's code on php.net is 146% bullshit
10:57 VanessaE what about the 17.53%?
10:57 VanessaE ;)
10:57 cornernote you're being very general
10:57 cornernote you can see its user submitted code
10:57 cornernote and you can try it
10:57 cornernote if it works, great, problem solved
10:58 cornernote if it doesnt work then you lost 20 seconds of your life reading an example
10:58 cornernote personally i havent seen much broken code in the user examples
10:58 cornernote and its most recent 1st, so other users generally sumbit an improvement
11:00 cornernote even if its the crappest code in the world... to someone who has never coded minetest/lua and they want to have a play, a crappy example can be better than nothing
11:00 cornernote and maybe, just maybe, there may be some good user submited code examples
11:00 cornernote im sure not everyone here sux at coding =)
11:01 VanessaE cornernote makes a good point, but there's something missing there:  The crappy example is only useful as long as the coder doesn't try to stuff too many concepts into one example
11:01 thexyz someone who has never code better learn to code by some smart book instead of by user-submitted crappy examples
11:01 cornernote if there is no examples, then they wont learn
11:01 VanessaE like introducing functions by talking about classes and callbacks and blah blah
11:01 cornernote i dont mean leaning to program
11:01 cornernote i mean learning to use the api
11:01 VanessaE nor do I
11:02 VanessaE I learned to program in BASIC back in the 80's.  When I first started fiddling around with modern languages, it was like I had never opened a programming book in my life.
11:02 thexyz right
11:02 VanessaE everything I knew up to that point, save for the actual logic skills, was useless
11:03 VanessaE so while I could code, I couldn't do so in the language in question.  That's where good examples came in handy
11:03 VanessaE and learning an API is just as much an issue as learning a language, since the API basically *is* a language within one
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11:13 jin_xi sup - was vacuuming my apt...
11:17 VanessaE I'd vacuum more often but I'm just too lazy :-)
11:21 jin_xi ok, mod api is currently just linked in the dev wiki
11:26 RealBadAngel ok, update with power cables is online
11:26 RealBadAngel got a feelin it is buggy as hell ;)
11:27 RealBadAngel but any1 can now see hot it will be working
11:27 RealBadAngel *how
11:28 jin_xi sry for stupid question, where is it at?
11:28 RealBadAngel Technic
11:29 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2538
11:30 RealBadAngel textures will change, sdzen is makin low res ones
11:32 jin_xi looks very nice
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12:27 OldCoder 5:25am vicscandl test back
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12:59 OldCoder Ha
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13:02 JamieWill Hi
13:03 VanessaE hi
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13:35 keegan hey
13:36 VanessaE oh FINALLY my backup is finished
13:36 VanessaE 4 hours later :-S
13:36 VanessaE good morning keegan
13:39 RealBadAngel hi keegan
13:40 keegan hello
13:41 keegan still getting use to ubuntu
13:41 VanessaE keegan: give it time
13:41 Calinou lol, keegan uses noobuntu
13:41 Calinou did he uninstall windows? O_o
13:41 VanessaE once you grow accustomed to how it works, you will find it hard to understand how you got by with windows
13:42 keegan my server laptop never had win7 it was a trail so i unistall win 7 and installed ubuntu
13:42 Calinou -_- waste of money
13:42 Calinou I'm keeping windows on this computer because of the windows tax; if I was able to buy this computer without OS I'd surely do it
13:42 keegan it came withy the laptop
13:42 Calinou YES, it is a waste of money
13:43 Calinou if you plan on installing linux I suggest you buy a computer without any OS; these are hard to find but these do exist
13:43 VanessaE actually they're quite easy to find if you don't waste money on name-brand machines
13:43 VanessaE this box was built from parts ordered (as a kit) from PortaTech
13:44 Calinou depends on countries
13:44 Calinou I still facepalm at 99% of computers being sold with windows. linux is just so much better. :(
13:44 RealBadAngel branded PCs are harder to upgrade
13:44 RealBadAngel better make pc from parts
13:44 Calinou and prevent you from using multiboot
13:44 Calinou thanks to UEFI
13:44 Calinou RealBadAngel, it is actually MORE expensive
13:45 RealBadAngel not here
13:45 Calinou sellers of computers without OS and computer parts make money off linux users
13:45 iqualfragile pilzadam or someone else having experience with the minetestmapper.py : where do i get a colors.txt from?
13:45 Calinou these are usually 100 euros more expensive than the computer with windows
13:45 RealBadAngel i take parts i need and build it from scratch
13:45 Calinou iqualfragile, in the git repo...
13:45 VanessaE iqualfragile: it should be in the same directory where you found minetestmapper.py
13:45 iqualfragile im gone search for the git-repo
13:46 iqualfragile it was not distributed with pilzadams map-mod
13:46 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest
13:47 iqualfragile ah, there it is
13:47 iqualfragile im sorry, didnt find it on my own
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13:51 VanessaE hey mauvebic.
13:51 Calinou hi
13:52 Calinou dedicated to you: http://imgur.com/a/9XR0c
13:52 Calinou mauvebic, ^
13:53 mauvebic lol they just added sorry lol
13:57 thexyz wtf is that? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2768
13:59 mauvebic i asked celeron to make me a moderator so i could move my own threads
13:59 mauvebic your new doors and mine are awfully similar
13:59 mauvebic and the timing couldn't be more identical
13:59 mauvebic celeron responded by calling me an ass and suggesting i ripped you off
14:01 mauvebic idc if people copy my shit or not, but when i see an identical mod come out and im still waiting for a topic move...
14:03 thexyz wat? you think i copied your doors?
14:03 mauvebic okay, look at your description, and mine, what am i supposed to think?
14:04 mauvebic 2 nodes, correct textures, facedir rotating, its all the same
14:04 mauvebic released within 6 hours of eachother
14:04 RealBadAngel and the code?
14:04 mauvebic were either telepathic, or someone was copied
14:04 thexyz have you tried comparing the code?
14:05 thexyz i haven't even downloaded your mod
14:05 thexyz just doing it now..
14:06 mauvebic code comparing doesnt really tell you anything, anyone can obfuscate code
14:06 RealBadAngel oh it does
14:06 thexyz lol
14:07 mauvebic any decent coder can look at code and reproduce it differently. What struck me was the near identical descriptions, and the timing
14:07 RealBadAngel this way all car proucers should spend all the time in courts
14:08 RealBadAngel not tellin about toilet paper producers :)
14:08 thexyz still, mauvebic, have you tried looking at the code?
14:08 thexyz just answer "yes/no"
14:08 mauvebic yes
14:08 thexyz still see no difference?
14:09 mauvebic well it looks like my door + calinous' double door put together
14:09 thexyz really?
14:09 mauvebic but if you say you wrote it from scratch fine, ill accept that
14:10 thexyz i can also suggest you looking at this file https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods/blob/master/xdoors/init.lua
14:10 thexyz which is what xdoors2 based on
14:11 mauvebic the number of people who accuse me publicly and privately of stealing shit, its making me paranoid
14:11 mauvebic so when i see mods that look alike... i get protective
14:13 mauvebic wtv, ill remove the post
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14:13 mauvebic i think im more worked up about celerons' response at this point
14:13 thexyz where can i find your conversation about this?
14:14 mauvebic my email inbox lol
14:14 mauvebic here
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14:14 mauvebic Nodebox-implemented doors have existed for a much longer time than you
14:14 mauvebic think. thexyz originally made them almost immediately when the github
14:14 mauvebic version supported nodeboxes.
14:14 mauvebic I do not grant moderator status to bad people.
14:14 mauvebic Hopefully you haven't yet made yourself into an asshole in the eyes of
14:15 mauvebic others by saying otherwise.
14:15 mauvebic / celeron55
14:16 RealBadAngel thats the problem coding such ordinary things
14:16 RealBadAngel no wander many ppl did the same
14:17 mauvebic its just the timing
14:17 mauvebic had they been at least a day apart i wouldnt have been suspicious
14:17 RealBadAngel i had same with madchicken13
14:17 mauvebic like i said, if he wrote from scratch, he wrote it from scratch, i cant offer any proof otherwise
14:18 RealBadAngel i started to make my chests, talked to him, showed him my mod at the very early stage
14:18 RealBadAngel next day he popped up with bigchests mod
14:18 mauvebic thats happenning alot now
14:18 RealBadAngel but this was obvious, dont wanna judge this situation
14:19 RealBadAngel i mean the doors
14:19 RealBadAngel havent seen the code even
14:19 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2768
14:19 Calinou ^ delete topic?
14:19 Calinou or lock for the lols? :p
14:19 RealBadAngel lol
14:19 mauvebic delete, no use re-debating it there
14:20 mauvebic nor do i need to class with celeron once more today
14:20 RealBadAngel mauvebic: pick ur niche, complex one are not just to copy
14:20 RealBadAngel and there will be no debates who made uckin door lol
14:20 mauvebic *clash lol
14:21 mauvebic idc *who* made the door, i just wanted everything ready for releases to be there lol
14:22 mauvebic idc what gets included in default either, considering i dont play w/ default lol
14:22 RealBadAngel im from the very begining went for creation of very complex one mod
14:23 RealBadAngel still learnin lua
14:23 RealBadAngel but thanks to it, i dont think i will encounter such issues like who made door 1st
14:23 mauvebic people like DD and and segfault basically copy/pasting entire mods is making people paranoid lol
14:25 mauvebic this shit never happenned even 3 months ago lol
14:26 mauvebic but for a while now CPU usage has been shooting up, and copycat mods along with it lol
14:26 RealBadAngel more folks, more shit can happen
14:27 RealBadAngel btw
14:27 RealBadAngel maybe you will know
14:27 RealBadAngel can anythin lua be eecuted while not ingame, just in main menu?
14:27 RealBadAngel without need to change the source
14:28 RealBadAngel wanted to add music theme for main menu
14:28 mauvebic you need to recompile
14:29 RealBadAngel ive managed to add menu background
14:29 RealBadAngel addin a piece of music could be nice
14:30 mauvebic yeah but you wont be able to convince people to use a fork just for menu music :S
14:30 mauvebic and people are likely to all have different ideas about what music
14:30 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/menu.png
14:31 RealBadAngel thats why im lookin for a vanilla solution
14:33 mauvebic you could try suggesting to celeron, but dont forget the kid gloves lol
14:35 iqualfragile im having another problem, you might be able to help me resolve it: im using the minetoon-texturepack on my server.
14:35 mauvebic whats wrong w/ it?
14:36 * vicscandl removes the sand from his eyes...
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14:36 vicscandl sleep is so overrated
14:36 iqualfragile its skaled 250x250. the moreores- ores on the other hand are scaled 30x30 or something like that, alot smaller
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14:36 RealBadAngel my TP provides hires textures for more ores
14:37 iqualfragile when im looking at a moreores tin-block i can see the minetoons stonetexture plus the tiny litle texture for tin in the upper left corner
14:37 iqualfragile wich is nearly invisble
14:37 RealBadAngel http://www.realbadangel.pl/HavenTP/screenshot6.png
14:37 iqualfragile so it does not scale the texture up
14:38 RealBadAngel textures have to be made
14:38 RealBadAngel its not just upscalin them
14:39 RealBadAngel from 16x16 pixels you will not make good lookin hires texture
14:39 mauvebic thats kinda weird behaviour yeah lol
14:40 RealBadAngel seen that when creatin my own pack
14:40 iqualfragile yeah, i know, but the moreores-textures are composed of the default_stone.png and the moreores_mineral_xxx.png
14:40 RealBadAngel but theyre 16x16
14:41 mauvebic yeah one image is superimposed on the other
14:41 iqualfragile yep
14:41 mauvebic you need to replace both
14:41 iqualfragile and its not scaled up
14:41 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=19702
14:41 RealBadAngel so are occupyin just the corner
14:41 iqualfragile right
14:41 * VanessaE plugs her own texture pack just for good measure ;-)
14:41 RealBadAngel seen mine ores?
14:41 VanessaE just now, yes
14:41 mauvebic if youre super-imposing a 16px texture on a 200px, its going to be in the corner yeah
14:41 iqualfragile it should be scaled up instead
14:42 RealBadAngel same sized
14:42 VanessaE iqualfragile: in theory yeah but in practice the game doesn't do that
14:42 iqualfragile i have looked throught many of the texturepacks but i liked the style of minetoon so im gone use that
14:43 iqualfragile others look nice, too, but i want to have an uniqe style wich is different from minecraft
14:43 RealBadAngel mine is semi-realistic, vanessas i think hiper realistic ;)
14:43 iqualfragile im just gona modify the ore-texture
14:43 RealBadAngel so
14:44 RealBadAngel take stone texture
14:44 VanessaE RealBadAngel: btw, you use the same coal lump I did :-)
14:44 RealBadAngel and ore
14:44 RealBadAngel upscale each ore to the same size as stone
14:44 VanessaE (except I made that particular one into the inventory "lump" image, whereas you used it for a mineral ore)
14:44 RealBadAngel and blend them together
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14:44 PilzAdam Hello again!
14:44 VanessaE hey PilzAdam
14:44 RealBadAngel hi
14:45 PilzAdam any news?
14:45 RealBadAngel check my mod
14:45 RealBadAngel its on
14:45 PilzAdam will do
14:46 Cristiano-CM Tem alguma PPA no Ubuntu para a versão 0.4.1?
14:46 RealBadAngel you can blend textures easily using Gimp
14:46 RealBadAngel its best tool imho for makin textures
14:47 RealBadAngel kinda hard to get used to
14:48 RealBadAngel but powerfull, and when u get used to it, really easy to use
14:48 mauvebic newer versions you can save project files for gimp (to reverse changes and such)
14:49 RealBadAngel for example i do keep object ie machines
14:49 RealBadAngel in one project
14:49 RealBadAngel as layers
14:49 RealBadAngel all the sides and combinations
14:50 RealBadAngel and export needed side toggling visibility of the layers
14:50 RealBadAngel so for example all the furnaces are just one project
14:51 VanessaE Cristiano-CM: please speak engli--
14:51 VanessaE --sh.
14:51 RealBadAngel too late ;)
15:00 mauvebic "speak english" you know how many times i have to say that, in my own english speaking country lol
15:00 mauvebic the words people make up these days lol
15:01 vicscandl mauvebic: there is a reason we call it "spanglish" here in southern california
15:01 VanessaE vicscandl: spanish-speaking folks also call it spanglish :-)
15:01 vicscandl mauvebic: at least it's half in english, right?
15:01 * VanessaE fades
15:02 mauvebic lol well i also speak french so while i understand some spanish, i cant speak or write it
15:03 vicscandl i can speak in broken spanish, but could not read or write it.
15:03 vicscandl english, well.. its broken to begin with, but 100% fluent there.. :)
15:04 mauvebic worse is quebecois, its not even french anymore
15:04 mauvebic i learned french in an english province, when we moved here we were like "wtf?" lol
15:04 vicscandl meh... "live love live"
15:05 * VanessaE fades some more
15:06 vicscandl VanessaE: heading to sleepville?
15:06 VanessaE yeah
15:06 * VanessaE fades more - Alpha channel now at 10%
15:06 vicscandl see ya on the other side if i miss you, off/on - making food
15:07 * vicscandl pulverizes the remainder of VanessaE's alpha channel for faster sleep uptake...
15:07 * VanessaE vanishes
15:08 VanessaE [echo from the void] Night all, or something.  I need sleep :-)  [/echo]
15:08 mauvebic nighty night
15:11 mauvebic drought = shitty weed
15:12 mauvebic you get more high off the weed mod than the real thing lol
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15:14 iqualfragile so i have extacted the iron-texture and recoloured it
15:15 vicscandl mauvebic: bummers... here in socal, weed is sold next to McD's
15:15 vicscandl in a shop
15:15 vicscandl effing 7-11 style and things....
15:15 mauvebic dont you need like a medical thing or something to get it?
15:16 * vicscandl remembes when he had to walk 10 miles for pot, in the rain, uphill both ways...
15:16 mauvebic i used to grow it myself when i was younger lol
15:16 vicscandl mauvebic: yes, that is also such a "revolving door" the "licencing facility" is typically next door to the dispensary.
15:17 Calinou seems legit
15:17 vicscandl mine was $65
15:17 Calinou take that discussion to #freenode
15:17 Calinou thank you
15:17 mauvebic jesus christ
15:17 vicscandl Calinou: sorry
15:17 Calinou drugs are bad mkay?
15:17 vicscandl mkay
15:17 Calinou :)
15:17 vicscandl ((not that i agree, but for the sake of MT, mkay))
15:18 mauvebic isnt weed legal in europe? ill stop after that im just curious lol
15:18 mauvebic ah amsterdam
15:18 mauvebic ok im done lol
15:19 Calinou it isn't
15:19 Calinou at all
15:19 mauvebic well i know tourists cant go to amsterdam anymore for those purposes
15:19 mauvebic but i thought it was legal for locals there
15:20 iqualfragile calinou: i have created some textures for moreores, derived from the minetoon-texturepack. do you want du give them to the creator of minetoon?
15:21 vicscandl hush-it mauve, yer gonna get a fish or something soon.. :)
15:21 * Calinou facepalms
15:21 vicscandl iqualfragile: i would like to obtain a lookie...
15:21 Calinou textures in a mod must be 16x16 whenever possible
15:21 Calinou because it's the convention - default texture size is 16x16, and so is the atlas size
15:22 mauvebic alot of people are disabling the atlas though :-/
15:22 iqualfragile yeah, i know, i just wanted you to give the textures to the texturepackcreator
15:22 mauvebic because of having tons of nodes
15:22 Calinou I disabled it... it causes glitches sometimes
15:22 Calinou iqualfragile, there's already moreores textures in minetoon
15:22 mauvebic i re-enabled the atlas and it got rid of some lag, but very marginally
15:23 Calinou if you want to send him textures, do it yourself, anyway
15:23 iqualfragile there is? since when?
15:24 mauvebic iqualfragile to what you are referring?
15:24 iqualfragile to calinou, he said there would be moreores texures in minetoon
15:24 Calinou there are, well... IIRC
15:25 Calinou I never used minetoon :P
15:25 mauvebic 16p textures giveme headaches after an hour lol
15:25 Calinou minetoon is 512x
15:26 RealBadAngel hard to make 16
15:26 RealBadAngel im makin default ones 32
15:27 vicscandl Calinou: outside of speed reasons, why the hard limitation on such tiny textures?
15:28 RealBadAngel in fact i do make 128x from the start
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15:28 RealBadAngel scaling them down to 32x is ok
15:28 NekoGloop Hm?
15:28 mauvebic resolution doesnt affect speed that much, is really the atlas thats designed for 16p i think
15:28 RealBadAngel 16x is totally fucked up
15:28 vicscandl (( minetoon eats the shit out of my lappy GPU ))
15:28 RealBadAngel i play with 128x
15:28 RealBadAngel and all the possible mods
15:29 vicscandl atlas == minetestmapper.py  ????
15:29 RealBadAngel 60 all the time
15:29 mauvebic maybe not the texture map, what mods you running, how many ABMs, etc., these all add up
15:29 mauvebic *texture pack
15:29 RealBadAngel had atlas error before
15:29 RealBadAngel with rc1 its gone somehow
15:30 RealBadAngel c55 raised limits?
15:30 mauvebic the furnace and fire mods have ABMs going off at every interval, try disabling those first
15:30 mauvebic (or cranking them up)
15:30 iqualfragile minetoon is 250 and no, there are no moreores-textures in it
15:30 Calinou minetoon is 512x not 256x
15:30 NekoGloop c55 removed limits
15:30 Calinou vicscandl, it's the texture atlas decision
15:30 Calinou HD textures will disable the atlas anyway
15:31 NekoGloop how to craft locked sign?
15:31 RealBadAngel ah
15:31 vicscandl mauvebic: every interval for furnace and fire? damn, missed that one
15:31 RealBadAngel seen funny error with light
15:31 RealBadAngel 16x texture was not properly lighten
15:32 NekoGloop lava can shoot lighting to hell
15:32 RealBadAngel and caused black blocks all aroun
15:32 mauvebic i like the fire mod, but its more a tool for griefers and crashing your servers with intervals so low
15:32 iqualfragile calinou: are we talking about the same texturepack? because i just looked at the texures, its clearly 250x250 not 256x256 or 512x512
15:32 RealBadAngel and with 128x everythin was ok
15:32 keegan anyone have xchat?
15:32 mauvebic xchat here
15:32 vicscandl iqualfragile: yea, i just did too
15:32 keegan is there a private chat
15:32 Calinou iqualfragile, O_o
15:32 keegan like pm
15:32 mauvebic and i have xxxchat, should the need arise ;-) LOL
15:33 Calinou textures are supposed to be powers of two normally
15:33 RealBadAngel type /querry nick
15:33 Calinou xchat FTW
15:33 Calinou query not querry
15:33 RealBadAngel its itc command
15:33 mauvebic right click name and 'open dialog window'
15:33 iqualfragile i know, i know, it somehow disturbed me, too
15:33 RealBadAngel xchat is aother irc client just
15:33 keegan ok thanks
15:33 vicscandl keegan: yes, its /msg irc-nick your message here
15:34 keegan is there more minetest channels?
15:34 mauvebic minetest-dev
15:34 NekoGloop #minetest-dev and #minetest-delta
15:34 vicscandl keegan: i would advise you so not to go there keegan.
15:34 mauvebic they always party hard there  :p
15:34 keegan why no
15:34 keegan not
15:35 NekoGloop and isnt there a modding channel, but is kinda outruled by this one?
15:35 mauvebic only masochists go to -dev lol
15:35 vicscandl keegan: i'll just say this. i've warned you.
15:35 keegan what do they do there?
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15:36 vicscandl keegan: shit with unicorn's and elven magic man!
15:36 mauvebic shoot down every idea
15:36 NekoGloop They kill you and eat your corpse.
15:36 vicscandl ie: what mauvebic said.
15:36 mauvebic always in the nicest possible terms (sarcasm) lol
15:36 vicscandl mauvebic: but everything is better with a unicorn!
15:37 Calinou you can go to #minetest-dev, but avoid talking there ;)
15:37 mauvebic yeah well someone's got the unicorns' horn stuck up their ... lol
15:37 RealBadAngel rip off the head, shit into neck. i dont know its nice
15:38 * NekoGloop types /spawn unicorn 9999
15:38 keegan what does ping do?
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15:38 mauvebic ping destroys your c/ drive
15:38 RealBadAngel causes pong :P
15:38 vicscandl keegan: its the yang of pong.
15:38 mrtux hi
15:38 mauvebic all these intelligent responses lol
15:38 mauvebic ping is like internet sonar
15:39 vicscandl and none of them are correct (until yours)
15:39 NekoGloop C:\*
15:39 RealBadAngel ping response time shows you how far youre from pinged host
15:39 Calinou lol
15:39 Calinou not how far
15:39 RealBadAngel its a delay
15:39 Calinou the time it takes to answer
15:39 RealBadAngel in miliseconds
15:40 NekoGloop if you dont send a response for 200 or so seconds, you are disconnected
15:40 RealBadAngel yeah, go on mars orbit
15:40 RealBadAngel and ping earth
15:40 mrtux can someone review my new mod?
15:40 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37399
15:40 vicscandl RealBadAngel: 20m ping time and shit
15:40 keegan i dont get it still
15:40 RealBadAngel light is distance too
15:41 vicscandl at light speed, time becomes the distance
15:41 mauvebic lightyears
15:41 NekoGloop mrtux: NEVER use water_source
15:41 NekoGloop EVER
15:41 mrtux ah ok
15:41 mauvebic y not water source?
15:41 NekoGloop Without creative mode or /give, you cant get it
15:41 mrtux should i use water buckets?
15:41 RealBadAngel 20ms is also a distance
15:41 mauvebic true
15:41 vicscandl [C:\]
15:41 NekoGloop use bucket:bucket_water
15:41 mauvebic but if buckets are disable what to do?
15:42 NekoGloop turn on buckets :P
15:42 mrtux that would be wasting buckets
15:42 RealBadAngel 300ms i know its another continent
15:42 NekoGloop Use this line in the recipe:
15:42 mauvebic copy buckets, make you scoop up the water to have juice?
15:42 NekoGloop craft*
15:42 JamieWill yeah MRTUX?
15:42 RealBadAngel with a few minutes i would know it was mars
15:43 keegan who knows how to use ubuntu
15:43 RealBadAngel with a mouse and keyboard?
15:43 mauvebic ubuntu?
15:43 NekoGloop replacements : {"bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:empty_bucket"}
15:43 mrtux i know how to use ubuntu
15:43 NekoGloop I think
15:43 keegan yes
15:43 Calinou lol
15:43 vicscandl keegan: sorry, i use freeBSD.
15:43 mrtux neko what does it do
15:43 keegan why cant i type in terminal
15:43 mauvebic i know how to swear at ubuntu, thats about all
15:43 Calinou vicscandl, LOL
15:43 Calinou hi bsd fanboy:
15:44 Calinou nothing is compatible yet you like it
15:44 Calinou keegan, huh?
15:44 Calinou click on it first *facepalm*
15:44 Calinou mauvebic, harshlinux sucks too.
15:44 Calinou debian FTW
15:44 NekoGloop Use FreeBULLSHI
15:44 vicscandl Calinou: i still run my sql servers on thined out freeBSD boxen
15:44 NekoGloop :3
15:44 * Calinou started a distor war
15:44 mauvebic arch works fine for me :p
15:44 Calinou distro*
15:44 keegan at first i can type a line and pree enter and it quit tying
15:44 Calinou arch is complicated for no benefit
15:44 mrtux >harshlinux
15:44 Calinou keegan, -_- you need to type a valid command
15:44 RealBadAngel ubuntu was kinda cool
15:44 mauvebic archbang less so
15:44 Calinou ubuntu was cool prior to 11.10
15:44 mrtux yeah
15:44 iqualfragile uh: how can i remove all -lets say- fireflower- nodes?
15:44 RealBadAngel but this new HUD thing is just not retro
15:45 Calinou but the ubuntu devs went "AMG UNITY"
15:45 mauvebic ubuntu was cool before pulseaudio and gnome 3 and all that crap lol
15:45 keegan Calinou whats a valid command
15:45 mrtux I wanted to install ubuntu at the time of 10.10
15:45 Calinou and it's unstable
15:45 vicscandl Calinou: run fluxbuntu or something
15:45 Calinou I find debian testing/unstable more stable than ubuntu/mint
15:45 RealBadAngel uck the unity
15:45 Calinou PLUS, it's rolling release.
15:45 NekoGloop USE F*CKING WINDOWS
15:45 Calinou lol
15:45 mrtux rolling release is nice
15:45 keegan why
15:45 Calinou only because of the drivers :P
15:45 RealBadAngel they went for shiny uckin stuff
15:45 mrtux I run a server on windows keegan
15:45 Calinou O_______o
15:45 mauvebic anyone else have problems updating glibc?
15:46 iqualfragile fuck windows!
15:46 RealBadAngel hardcore doesnt need such stuff
15:46 mrtux Do you have lots of software on your server?
15:46 keegan mrtux i have wine(cmd) to run it
15:46 keegan no
15:46 keegan just got it yesterday
15:46 mauvebic i dont know if its out on the other distros, but itbroke alot of shit lol
15:46 vicscandl ok Calinou, you ever roll up a gentoo install?
15:46 mrtux are you running gnu/linux?
15:46 Calinou gentoo sucks
15:46 keegan linux i think
15:46 mauvebic fedora sucks too
15:46 Calinou mrtux, highfive for gnu/linux
15:46 Calinou fedora is for furries
15:46 mauvebic furries? lol
15:46 Calinou #quotelevel:500
15:46 vicscandl Calinou: hahahahaah furries....
15:46 mrtux lol thanks Calinou
15:47 NekoGloop Meow?
15:47 RealBadAngel windows sucks even more than any linux disro
15:47 Calinou trololol
15:47 RealBadAngel so shut up :)
15:47 vicscandl moof goes the dogcow!
15:47 mrtux stallman would murder me if i said open source or linux again...
15:47 Calinou at least winblows doesn't have a confusing DE like noobuntu and mac os
15:47 mauvebic nvidia doesnt work well on debian anything
15:47 Calinou the only thing superior to noobuntu
15:47 mauvebic though it works fine on archbang
15:47 Calinou mauvebic, it does
15:47 mauvebic oh nooo
15:47 Calinou you CAN install proprietary drivers
15:47 keegan how do you make ubuntu fster
15:47 Calinou and the nouveau drivers work quite well for me
15:47 mrtux get a better pc keegan
15:48 mrtux ubuntu is bloated as shit
15:48 Calinou keegan, disable desktop effects (switch to unity 2D or gnome 3 without effects)
15:48 Calinou ^
15:48 vicscandl mrtux: hahhahaha
15:48 RealBadAngel i had hard time to install propertiary drivers on 12.04
15:48 mrtux what vicscand1
15:48 Calinou nouveau runs minetest at 20-40FPS for me, in a VM
15:48 Calinou PWNT
15:48 mrtux also get more swap
15:48 mauvebic nouveau couldn't play bluray with my card, and nvidia was laggy on debian :-/ for both minetest and vlc
15:48 Calinou lol no
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15:48 vicscandl mrtux: "get a better pc keegan"
15:48 mrtux lol
15:48 Calinou high five FSF member
15:48 Calinou must be marktraceur in disguise... j/k
15:48 keegan this is my server laptop
15:49 mauvebic FPS 58-60 here lol
15:49 RealBadAngel http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/17/3092829/linus-torvalds-fuck-you-nvidia
15:49 Calinou FPS 60 here (capped at 60)
15:49 Calinou RealBadAngel, old news
15:49 mauvebic while watching movies lol
15:49 vicscandl keegan: hahahahah you said "server laptop" thats funny shit guy
15:49 mrtux Ubuntu 10.10 requres at least 512MB of ram, I'm assuming 12.04 requries a gigabyte of it
15:49 keegan why
15:49 mrtux since ubuntu is a shitpile
15:49 mauvebic the same linux ppl have been knocking ATI for years
15:50 RealBadAngel more unnecesary stuff, huds
15:50 RealBadAngel more ram needed
15:50 mauvebic they cant admit their kernels change too much for proprietary drivers to adapt
15:50 keegan i have 2gb of ram
15:50 Calinou AMD sucks anyway :p
15:50 Calinou free drivers are insanely slow, proprietary ones do not work
15:50 mauvebic devs loove to add features but they rarely patch or update after
15:50 mrtux Keegan, do debian
15:51 Calinou ^ minecraft-style updates basically :P
15:51 mrtux It's MEANT for servers
15:51 Calinou can also be used on client computers of course :p
15:51 mauvebic thats the one thing i hate about arch: the update process lol
15:51 Calinou debian isn't hard to use, if you can RTFM
15:51 keegan where do i get that
15:51 mauvebic ive given them so much shit about it lol
15:51 mrtux also if you are running minetest on wine, just get the native gnu/linux build
15:51 Calinou lol, wine
15:51 mrtux wine is kinda slow
15:51 Calinou very
15:51 mauvebic wine was okay to play cities XL 2012
15:51 OldCoder mrtux, Calinou depends
15:52 mauvebic sck4 and sim societies too
15:52 mrtux keegan are you comfortable with the command line?
15:52 OldCoder FWIW bleeding-edge Wine has some improvements
15:52 mrtux It's not exactly like Winblows.
15:52 mauvebic railroad tycoon, bus driver, 18 wheels of steel, all flawless play for me
15:52 keegan what kind of command line
15:52 mrtux don't use debain
15:53 Calinou <dpkg> Debian!  D-E-B-I-A-N!  The founder of Debian was not named "Ain".  Sheesh!
15:53 mrtux just stick with crapbuntu
15:53 mauvebic if you need pure windows you can always load a VM
15:53 Calinou mrtux, SLAPPED
15:53 mauvebic or try running it in reactOS
15:53 mrtux yes calinou
15:53 mauvebic though i dont know if thats any good
15:53 mrtux Hahahhaha mauvebic
15:53 Calinou mrtux, you can use debian without touching terminal, though it's a bit more tough (no pun intended)
15:53 mrtux It crashes every five minutes
15:53 mrtux oh yeah
15:53 mrtux I ran it in qemu, unstable as f*ck
15:53 Calinou I run my debian in virtualbox... blame UEFI.
15:53 mauvebic one thing id wish theyd develop but never will is the LUK (unified kernel)
15:54 mrtux Reactos is shit
15:54 mauvebic i suspected as much
15:54 mrtux Ir crashes too much when I run malware on it ;_;
15:54 mrtux bluescreen after bluescreen
15:55 mauvebic X can die (or not start at all) on linux too loll
15:55 Calinou no u
15:55 Calinou q66 ragequit
15:55 mrtux install guntoo
15:55 mrtux jk
15:56 mauvebic on crunchbang though i could switch video drivers/devices more easily using rmmod and startx
15:56 NekoGloop lol mrtux "when I run malware on it"
15:56 Calinou lol yeah
15:56 keegan what internet program do you like better  google chrome or firefox
15:56 NekoGloop IE
15:56 Calinou chromium is the best :D
15:56 mrtux NO
15:56 mrtux just NO
15:56 Calinou NekoGloop, seriously? internet exploder?
15:56 Calinou chromium = google chrome but opensource. doesn't track you
15:56 NekoGloop Yes, seriously.
15:56 Calinou -_-
15:56 mauvebic midori is pretty minimal too
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15:56 mrtux I hate Google
15:56 Calinou midori is too limited and linux-only
15:56 Calinou I'm fine with google
15:56 Calinou (I use chrome on windows and chromium on linux)
15:56 mrtux Use startpage
15:56 OldCoder Calinou, there are plenty of other browser choices
15:57 mauvebic naw i use chrome cuz it saves my bookmarks passwords and such
15:57 Calinou my startpage is "remember tabs"
15:57 Calinou ;)
15:57 mrtux Startpage.com
15:57 Calinou NO U
15:57 mauvebic but when im gaming and just need to look something up, midori is blazing fast
15:57 mrtux it's a proxied search engine
15:57 OldCoder mauvebic, Epiphany may be worthwhile for you as well
15:57 Calinou chromium is as fast as midori iirc
15:57 Calinou mrtux, hi paranoid
15:57 mrtux no u
15:57 Calinou you know there are other ways to find pron?
15:57 mrtux yes
15:58 Calinou I have an account on gmail too
15:58 Calinou angry?
15:58 Calinou umad?
15:58 mrtux go on my fathers old laptop calinou
15:58 mrtux :P
15:58 Calinou nopez
15:58 JamieWill Im parinoid
15:58 mauvebic porn on gmail? be careful it dont get posted on g+ lol
15:58 mrtux I use yahoo mail but I am regreting it
15:58 JamieWill *paranoid
15:58 mrtux My father's old laptop has lots of it lol
15:58 JamieWill lol im screwed on g+
15:59 Calinou my account has been blocked off g+: "using a nickname"
15:59 mrtux >google +
15:59 Calinou I never used g+ anyway
15:59 Calinou :}
15:59 mrtux Calinou do you use facebook?
15:59 Calinou nopez. no twitter, too
15:59 Calinou hate FB/twitter/g+
15:59 mrtux I don't, and I am assuming you already know why
15:59 mauvebic weird, they refused to close my account for two months even though i was called "Gowron, leader of the empire"
15:59 Calinou yes of course
15:59 OldCoder Ha
15:59 Calinou I DONT HAVE FRIENDS
15:59 Calinou j/k
15:59 OldCoder That is not "Real Name (tm)" compatible
15:59 Calinou :}
16:00 NekoGloop Alright, so Doors+ > xDoors, Stairs+ > xStairs, xDoors^2 > Doors+.
16:00 mrtux I'll call my friends, just not using a cell phone
16:00 Calinou my real name is "we prefer instagib metl3"
16:00 Calinou we prefer being first name, instagib metl3 last name
16:00 Calinou (it's a reference to sauerbraten - some server was called so)
16:00 Calinou I don't have a cell phone too
16:00 Calinou #rms - lol
16:00 Calinou ragequit.
16:00 mauvebic next mod : superhappy megadoors
16:01 Calinou next mod: HAY BALES
16:01 NekoGloop next mod: bluescreening in minetest
16:01 mauvebic hay needs to grow first, not just those shitty brown thingies in the desert
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16:01 mrtux i accidently clicked disconnect in xchat
16:02 Calinou wb, ragequitter :>
16:02 mrtux i didn't ragequit
16:02 Calinou next mod: windows minetest edition
16:02 Calinou has a firewall that prevents you from connecting to any MT server
16:02 mauvebic a computer mod
16:02 Calinou also hides extensions
16:02 mauvebic then have a minetest mod for the computer mod
16:03 mauvebic then we could write mods within mods within mods
16:03 mauvebic lol
16:03 mrtux mesecons should be included in the main minetest game
16:03 mauvebic youd have to take something else out first though
16:03 mauvebic its fairly complex
16:03 Calinou mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods.
16:03 Calinou better.
16:03 mrtux brb i'm going to rdesktop into my server
16:04 mauvebic and again, #minetest-dev  enjoy ;-)
16:04 Calinou lol rdesktop
16:04 Calinou ssh FTW
16:04 mrtux it's a winblows server
16:05 mrtux someone named weston went on my server
16:05 mauvebic we could write entire OSes as mods for the computer mods
16:05 mauvebic lol
16:05 mrtux "killer123"
16:05 mauvebic in the end, you could check your facebook and email from within minetest XD
16:06 RealBadAngel lol
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16:06 RealBadAngel theres email mod or minecraft
16:06 mauvebic then random people login, and find that half the computer nodes have porn on them lol
16:07 Calinou q66, nice IP with 0 you have there
16:07 Calinou :o
16:07 mauvebic must be god
16:08 mauvebic or IP spoofing lol
16:09 q66 Calinou, no longer public ip
16:09 mauvebic the fun thing about linux is you can spoof your mac adress and get on pretty much any public network (like cafes that charge a fortune lol)
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16:09 Calinou god's ip is 127.0.0.1. :p
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16:10 RealBadAngel @calinou thats yours? i do use 127.0.0.2
16:10 Calinou lol
16:10 RealBadAngel good to have own adress ;)
16:11 saschaheylik God's Hardcore TDM | 127.0.0.1:1337
16:11 Calinou MY AWESOME SERVER 192.168.1.52
16:11 RealBadAngel shit, thats real hardore
16:11 saschaheylik i gotta print that on a shirt
16:11 RealBadAngel port is so hardore...
16:11 mauvebic our people have no gods, ancient klingons slew them a millenia ago, (more trouble than they were worth)
16:12 mrtux lol
16:12 saschaheylik bilderberg is god
16:12 saschaheylik don't u know?
16:12 RealBadAngel mankind get rid of gods
16:12 saschaheylik yes, get rid of bilderberg already
16:12 RealBadAngel just some fanatics dont realize it yet
16:13 saschaheylik i wouldnt call them fanatics.. sheep is a better "buzzword"
16:13 RealBadAngel when theyre carryin bombs?
16:13 saschaheylik the bomb people are cia
16:14 saschaheylik or at least funded from the "inside"
16:14 RealBadAngel such shit shall be forbidden
16:14 RealBadAngel and fanatics morons educated
16:14 saschaheylik lol... they are the ones who forbid
16:14 mauvebic yeah alex jones is nuts and likely doesnt believe his own story
16:15 saschaheylik i wouldnt say so
16:15 saschaheylik unless i knew
16:15 saschaheylik do you know?
16:15 saschaheylik unless i knew, i would look at it anyways
16:15 mauvebic we've been tracking you for quite some time now,
16:15 saschaheylik so far hes been getting the majority of his hypotheses verified
16:16 RealBadAngel ok, im goin back to jukebox coding
16:16 NekoGloop Ima make a house from lotsa stairsplus stuff :3
16:16 saschaheylik mauvebic: tracking who?
16:16 NekoGloop wow outta wood >.>
16:16 mauvebic lol
16:17 mauvebic its only about money, people see conspiracies everywhere
16:17 saschaheylik what is about money?
16:17 saschaheylik alex jones?
16:17 NekoGloop xfences should support different kinds of fences :P
16:17 mauvebic he sees conspiracies everywhere
16:17 saschaheylik he is listing signs of one single conspiracy
16:17 mauvebic the real explanation is all in how your political parties are funded
16:18 saschaheylik which is still a conspiracy then?
16:18 mauvebic not really
16:18 vicscandl i like cats.
16:18 saschaheylik oh in your head the definition of conspiracy == crazy fictional insanity
16:18 NekoGloop Meow~? :#
16:18 NekoGloop :3*
16:18 saschaheylik possible conspirators would love you to believe that
16:19 mauvebic no but conspiracies tend to imply unprovable ulterior motives
16:19 vicscandl do unicorn's fart rainbows?
16:19 NekoGloop no but nyan cat does
16:19 saschaheylik do you mean unprovEN
16:19 saschaheylik ?
16:19 saschaheylik im not sure what would be unprovABLE
16:19 mauvebic the reason you get screwed by the bank is because they fund alot of campaigns
16:19 * vicscandl throws some other non conspiracy topics at the wall...
16:20 saschaheylik alex jones pretty much only talks about documented stuff
16:20 saschaheylik mauvebic: and its that simple?
16:20 vicscandl hey, did you see that one mod, with that one fix, from that coder guy?
16:20 NekoGloop Yesh, I did.
16:20 saschaheylik dont you think that they would have an agenda too?
16:21 mauvebic well i saw his early videos of him driving around austin looking to pick fights with state trooper patrol points calling them nazies
16:21 mauvebic who looks crazy to you in that situation
16:21 saschaheylik well yeah he does have a bit of an anger problem appereantly
16:21 mauvebic the agenda for everyone is more money
16:21 saschaheylik but that i can understand
16:21 saschaheylik the more you research this stuff the angrier you can get
16:22 NekoGloop I lost my freakin house again
16:22 saschaheylik alex says he has been studying this for 20 years or something
16:22 NekoGloop found it!
16:22 mauvebic naw, if youre feeling screwed dont blame alex' jones' shadow neonazis
16:22 mauvebic blame the superPACs
16:22 saschaheylik and keeps watching other people just ignore what people in power are doing to them
16:23 saschaheylik how is alex jones anything near a nazi?
16:23 saschaheylik he is exposing nazis
16:23 saschaheylik does that make him one?
16:23 mauvebic no he thinks secret nazis control everything and are planning to turn the world into a prison
16:24 mauvebic while your busy believing that crap, youre letting the real abusers of your country get away
16:24 saschaheylik mauvebic: not literally everything
16:24 saschaheylik and do you think nazis cant plan to turn the world in a prison?
16:24 saschaheylik and if anyone would actually work on that idea, would nazis do that?
16:24 mauvebic im just hoping with the latest banking scandals that they'll finally write some new rules
16:25 mauvebic dont buy that alex jones crap at all
16:25 saschaheylik the reason you are being fucked in the ass is that you ask others to make the rules
16:26 saschaheylik unless people finally grow the fuck up and learn to take care of themselves, they will keep depending on their governments
16:26 mauvebic that means vote responsably, everyone knows the repeal of glass steagall was now a terrible idea, but no one's doing anything
16:26 saschaheylik who, i nturn, will tax them in the ass
16:26 mauvebic anyways getting OT
16:26 saschaheylik you think they wont manipulate the votes with ease?
16:26 saschaheylik think they are stupid?
16:27 mauvebic ...
16:27 saschaheylik they own the vote mechanism
16:27 saschaheylik and all candidates
16:27 Calinou drug talk again
16:27 saschaheylik because everyone has the price and they have the money
16:27 vicscandl Calinou: hahahha
16:27 vicscandl Calinou: was sooooooo waiting for that
16:27 saschaheylik its crazy how impossible that seems to sound to you
16:28 NakedFury what the heck you guys talking about?
16:28 mauvebic hes convinced he's getting screwed by a conspiracy, i told him its his politicians lol
16:28 mauvebic en bref..
16:29 saschaheylik not quite
16:29 mauvebic and now i want gyros
16:29 saschaheylik what a brilliant mind you have mauvebic
16:30 vicscandl mauvebic: you punk ass.... i want gyros now too!
16:30 mauvebic you're going to need to bow to my brilliance when the new world order comes ;)
16:30 Calinou NakedFury, drugs, mauvebic, furries, fedora and OSS
16:31 vicscandl damn, this is a furries bust too?
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16:33 mauvebic no gyros, only smoked meat o_0
16:34 Calinou hi hmmmm, long time no see
16:34 hmmmm hey
16:34 hmmmm i was held up with school, and then i had some other projects
16:35 NekoGloop hmmmm: A long time is a day?
16:35 hmmmm no i was around but then disappeared like a year ago
16:35 NekoGloop ah
16:36 NekoGloop you were here yesterday so i was confused
16:36 NekoGloop why is menche's server dead?
16:37 PilzAdam @all: you can vote for your fav mod here: minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628
16:37 NekoGloop why do you not put http://?
16:37 PilzAdam sry wrong link http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2770
16:37 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628
16:38 NekoGloop ok that one then
16:38 NekoGloop LOL mesecons
16:38 PilzAdam NekoGloop, this waw the wrong link
16:38 thexyz how one mod may be better than another?
16:38 PilzAdam *was
16:38 NekoGloop I KNOW
16:38 thexyz especially if they do completly different things
16:38 NekoGloop but LOL mesecons
16:39 NakedFury only have votings on similar mods
16:39 NakedFury weapons, sounds, ores, decorations, etc
16:39 NekoGloop "this is not a contest, but will give us an idea of what we like, and pride for the creators of the mod." wut nao
16:40 thexyz for example, which one is better? sethome or, say, mesecons? no point in comparing at all, they do completly different things
16:40 PilzAdam i use mesecons but not sethome
16:40 PilzAdam because i dont need something like sethome
16:40 PilzAdam so i voted for mesecons
16:41 PilzAdam everyone has different needs on minetest
16:41 NekoGloop "What is the most useful mod in your opinion?" would likely be a better topic title
16:42 mauvebic did anyone come up with a really big creative inventory that has everything?
16:42 PilzAdam mauvebic, its in the default game
16:42 NekoGloop try 0.4.2-rc1, I think it's integrated
16:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8uD-weuZk&amp;feature=g-vrec lolwat
16:43 mauvebic sweet,  i keep forgetting my givemes lol
16:43 NekoGloop why is this in my suggested vids? I havent watched caramelldansen, popipo, or fukkireta on this account >.>
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16:50 keegan madchicken13 my 30000 server is up
16:52 madchicken13 where is it running what comouter?
16:52 NekoGloop madchicken13: Die, griefer.
16:52 madchicken13 griefer?
16:53 NekoGloop yes, ubuntunerd.
16:53 madchicken13 what server?
16:53 NekoGloop zenoheld the backstab
16:53 NekoGloop you grieved Calinou's house
16:54 madchicken13 the only server i griefed was Keegans and ive made that up to him
16:54 NekoGloop Too bad.
16:54 keegan madchicken13 how is ports 30000/1 in use?
16:55 madchicken13 i didnt come on here to get accused, i came on here to get help with one of my mods for minetest
16:55 Calinou hi madchicken13
16:55 madchicken13 Keegan Idk ill check ur laptop
16:55 madchicken13 Hello
16:56 NekoGloop oh, one of your stolen ideas?
16:57 madchicken13 STOLEN?
16:57 NekoGloop Yes, like big chests?
16:57 keegan so what did you find madchicken13
16:57 madchicken13 i DIDNT STEAL that I had my mod made before RealBadAngel's Mod Was Out
16:58 NekoGloop Uh, no
16:58 madchicken13 yea check the dates
16:58 NekoGloop Remember? You rubbed it in his face.
16:58 * Calinou is connecting to mrtux's server
16:59 Calinou NekoGloop, he /can/ steal his mod if it's under WTFPL
16:59 madchicken13 FUCK YOU !! have someone ban me from the forums if you want this is screwed up
16:59 Calinou -_-
16:59 NekoGloop Finally, he left.
16:59 keegan wow
16:59 saschaheylik what the hell
16:59 NekoGloop I dont think rba put it under wtfpl
17:00 Calinou mrtux, can I have build access please?
17:01 PilzAdam lol I "stealed" the idea from making a game like Minecraft (and made it better) and M13 said i ruined his "AlwaysCraft"
17:02 mauvebic there are enough similar mods to make half a dozen categories to sort them all :p
17:02 mauvebic enough bricks alone to make sure no two houses look alike lol
17:02 NekoGloop ikr
17:04 NekoGloop Yet I made more ;)
17:04 mauvebic hehe well look its even gotten to the point where we release the same stuff at the same time
17:04 mauvebic its like a natural evolution
17:05 NekoGloop lol
17:05 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=KFhLi81HeM8&amp;feature=endscreen OMG THIS IS EPIC
17:07 thexyz damaged my ears, again
17:07 thexyz thanks, NekoGloop
17:07 NekoGloop ... AND WHY THE HELL IS BEN IN RELATED VIDS? O.O"
17:08 NekoGloop thexyz: ...?
17:10 Calinou thexyz, turn sound off when starting a video obviously
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17:10 NekoGloop lol
17:10 JamieWill Yeah
17:10 thexyz nice idea
17:10 thexyz next time i'll turn everything i can off before opening NekoGloop's link
17:11 JamieWill lol
17:11 NekoGloop lol not necessary
17:11 NekoGloop just maybe the speakers if you have problems with high pitches, unlike me.
17:12 JamieWill what is redcrabs 0.4.1 server with the wierd port like 30407 one or something?
17:12 NekoGloop idk check xyz's listing
17:14 JamieWill 30401
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17:21 NekoGloop So how is everyone today?
17:24 NekoGloop lol solar panels on walls just black out the textures xd
17:24 NekoGloop xD*
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17:25 JamieWill LOL SOLAR PANELS
17:26 NekoGloop in mesecons
17:30 NekoGloop I wanted to make somewhere you can only go at daytime ;)
17:31 NekoGloop This circuit I just built is probably redundant but wth
17:32 NekoGloop Oh yeah, I was gonna redownload technic mod.
17:32 NekoGloop Crap, I forgot.
17:33 NekoGloop Mesecons probably has another update as well, knowing jeija
17:36 NekoGloop oh cool, speed update. Means my noteblock circuit is gonna be out of time.
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17:37 NekoGloop I need to clean all these .zip's outta my minetest folder lol
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17:38 NekoGloop ohai Jeija
17:38 Jeija hi NekoGloop
17:38 NekoGloop :3
17:38 NekoGloop the new wires should be set by default
17:39 Jeija Will be very soon
17:39 NekoGloop and allow the user to select the old wires
17:39 Jeija yes
17:39 NekoGloop The speed improvement means I'll have to re-time my little working tune :P
17:40 Jeija oh they are already enabled :)
17:40 NekoGloop oh ok
17:40 NekoGloop well the speed improvent still means my song is gonna be out of time :P
17:41 JamieWill my ip keeps changing ahh
17:41 NekoGloop delayers dont turn off?
17:42 Jeija well, the do, but they just turn off one mesecon behind them
17:42 Jeija don't ask me why
17:42 NekoGloop so i need to f*ck the code up?
17:43 Jeija I'll reapair it
17:43 Jeija I really hope I can fix the delayer today
17:44 NekoGloop why did it get changed?
17:45 Jeija If I only knew; has to have something to do with the speed improvement
17:46 NekoGloop If only I knew*
17:50 NekoGloop How the hell do you keep track of this all? o.0
17:52 Jeija I don't ^^
17:53 NekoGloop lol
17:53 NekoGloop I'm assuming I look at the input code?
17:56 NekoGloop I like how something this complicated has no dependancies lol
17:57 NekoGloop (except for the junglegrass mod to actually GET the junglegrass)
17:58 Jeija well that dependency could really be removed if someone has a better idea for glue
17:58 NekoGloop idk, maybe just use leaves
17:59 NekoGloop but there's still blinkyplant and powerplant
17:59 Jeija cook leaves or something
17:59 PilzAdam saplings
17:59 Jeija blinkyplant and powerplant could use sticks instead
17:59 NekoGloop hm, yeah, but I had an idea for cooking leaves.
17:59 Jeija saplings! good idea!
17:59 NekoGloop Oh, saplings will work perfectly
17:59 NekoGloop I only have a shitload
18:00 NekoGloop :D
18:00 mrtux i have to shut my minetest server down :(
18:00 mrtux apparently it used 1GB of bandwidth
18:01 NekoGloop lol
18:01 NekoGloop maybe more people will come back to the IRC then
18:01 thexyz 1gb is not that much
18:02 NekoGloop i think he has a limited bandwidth
18:02 mrtux yes but how much bandwidth does minetest usually use
18:02 NekoGloop uh... a lot?
18:02 mrtux It's on an amazon aws with 16gb of bandwidth
18:03 thexyz let me check it..
18:03 mrtux Menche told me minetest didn't really use a lot of bandwidth
18:04 NekoGloop augh
18:04 NekoGloop guess i need to not use delayers for the time being
18:05 thexyz my server uses 0.5-1gb of bandwith every day, but there is also http server
18:05 mrtux yeah the server mine is on is http too
18:06 thexyz but it seems minetest uses most of it
18:06 mrtux also don't you run two mt servers on it?
18:06 mrtux stress test and main?
18:06 thexyz because there are <500 unique visits every day
18:06 thexyz right
18:06 mrtux ah
18:06 mrtux It could be my remote desktop too
18:06 NekoGloop|Im_not lol cant use the full thing?
18:07 thexyz but i don't care much about it because there is no bandwith limit ^^
18:07 thexyz except that hetzner's 10tb limit after which they reduce connection speed
18:08 mrtux ah
18:08 mrtux well i have a bandwidth limit so
18:08 mrtux ;_;
18:08 NekoGloop Meow~? :3
18:17 * NekoGloop kicks mrtux :3
18:17 mrtux ...
18:18 * NekoGloop giggles evilly >:3
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18:22 NekoGloop wb Jeija
18:22 JamieWill OMG and its UP rate was 100.00% !
18:22 NekoGloop wat
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18:30 mrtux wat.exe
18:30 mrtux hi
18:32 * NekoGloop pokes Jeija
18:32 Jeija ouch
18:33 * NekoGloop giggles
18:33 NekoGloop How are the delayers coming?
18:33 mrtux jeija does the latest git of mesecons work with the stable minetest
18:33 Jeija well they work now although I didn't change anything in the code
18:34 Jeija mrtux: not everything, e.g. the microcontroller not
18:34 mrtux ah
18:34 mrtux ok
18:34 Jeija I guess there is some strange endless loop somewhere (talking about the delayer bug)
18:34 mrtux ah
18:34 NekoGloop ok...?
18:35 Jeija just dunno where ^^
18:35 NekoGloop could you push the version you have, just for kicks?
18:35 mrtux mesecons is my favorite mod
18:35 NekoGloop to see if something you didnt do fixed it? :P
18:35 mrtux now if only i can learn gates and such
18:35 NekoGloop use microcontrollers :P
18:36 mrtux they didn't work...
18:36 NekoGloop make sure you used ";" at the end of if statements
18:36 sfan5 mrtux: paste your code
18:37 Jeija It doesn't work if the dialog doesn't pop up
18:37 mrtux i didn't mess with the uC
18:37 NekoGloop use the latest version of minetest?
18:37 Jeija It works in those versions with a dialog
18:37 mrtux I'm using 0.4.1
18:37 NekoGloop uC doesnt like 0.4.1, use 0.4.2-rc1
18:37 iqualfragile make sure you used »rm -rf *« at the end of yor statements!
18:38 NekoGloop troll ^
18:38 mrtux sounds suspicious
18:38 mrtux I know what rm -rf does
18:38 iqualfragile no, trust me, im a dolphin
18:38 mrtux on gnu/linux it deletes files, well forces the deletion
18:39 * NekoGloop kicks iqualfragile
18:39 vicscandl iqualfragile: that crap only works on keegan.
18:40 iqualfragile i know mrTUX knows what rm -rf does
18:40 NekoGloop LMAO
18:40 mrtux yes
18:41 mrtux i don't use gnu/linux but i know my fair share of commands and the flags
18:41 iqualfragile it ReMoves (all) minus Renamed Files
18:41 iqualfragile so it deletes all duplicates
18:41 iqualfragile *but it deleted everything!!*
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18:42 vicscandl -r recursive delte, -f force, no prompt
18:43 iqualfragile so all your files were pirated copies!
18:43 vicscandl oh yea, sure...
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18:43 NekoGloop rm -f ;)
18:46 sfan5 NekoGloop: rm: cannot remove `;)': No such file or directory
18:46 NekoGloop lol
18:46 NekoGloop I really needed someone to test it
18:47 sfan5 yeah
18:49 mrtux how do i make mesecon gates and stuff
18:49 mrtux for example if there was no power coming from a solar panel, lights would be turned on
18:53 sfan5 wait a sed
18:53 sfan5 *sec
18:54 sfan5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Troe_J5RyXE
18:54 mrtux ah
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19:15 NekoGloop EVERYBODY! Come to minetest.freedns.in:30000, we have beer :3
19:17 keegan what does beer do?
19:17 NekoGloop heals you
19:17 NekoGloop :P
19:17 keegan does it make the screen shaky
19:18 NekoGloop no
19:18 NekoGloop just come and see >.>
19:19 keegan i have it on my server
19:19 NekoGloop too bad
19:19 NekoGloop come here
19:19 sdzen oy you pushing servers NekoGloop?
19:19 NekoGloop You said I could :P
19:20 sdzen post
19:20 sdzen not argue and push keegan
19:20 NekoGloop lol I did
19:20 NekoGloop but just so people mentally incapable of scrolling up know:
19:21 NekoGloop EVERYBODY! Come to minetest.freedns.in:30000, we have beer :3
19:23 JamieWill http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37463#p37463
19:23 JamieWill what version?
19:23 NekoGloop 0.4.2-rc1
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19:23 NekoGloop ohai Jeija :3
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19:24 Jeija ni NekoGloop
19:24 keegan hi jeija
19:24 NekoGloop :3
19:24 Jeija go get a psychiatrist
19:24 * Jeija needs one
19:24 * Jeija goes mad
19:25 * Jeija found the dealyer bug
19:25 Jeija (after 5 hours)
19:25 NekoGloop lol
19:25 NekoGloop did you find it?
19:25 Jeija IT WAS THAT I FORGOT A "local" IN A FUNCTION
19:25 Jeija WHYYYYYYYYYY
19:25 NekoGloop lol
19:25 NekoGloop pushed to github?
19:25 * Jeija is destroying his chair
19:26 * Jeija has no time to push
19:26 * Jeija has to burn the house
19:26 * NekoGloop smacks Jeija
19:26 NekoGloop GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF, MAN!
19:26 * Jeija calming down
19:26 NekoGloop Now will you push?
19:26 NekoGloop commit, I should say
19:27 * Jeija removes the hundreds of thousends of debug prints
19:27 Jeija *thousands
19:27 NekoGloop UPLOAD THE FREAKIN UPDATE
19:29 * Jeija got rid of the debug outputs
19:29 NekoGloop NOW WILL YOU UPLOAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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19:30 * Jeija uploaded
19:30 NekoGloop no you didnt
19:30 Jeija oh yes I did https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons
19:30 NekoGloop I hate this stupid webpage
19:31 NekoGloop "other non-functional changes" wtf?
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19:31 Jeija typo, change parameters order, rename functions all this stuff
19:31 Jeija doesn't actually change any features
19:32 NekoGloop lol
19:32 thexyz -  rules = {}
19:32 thexyz +  local rules = {}
19:32 thexyz lol
19:33 NekoGloop ... wat
19:33 NekoGloop minetest, y u crash so much?
19:34 vicscandl ~
19:35 Jeija exactly thexyz, the best thing now is to laugh about it :/
19:37 JamieWill I have an custom ip
19:38 vicscandl i have a custom motorcycle
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19:48 NekoGloop I have a custom brain
19:48 jin_xi actually they're all more or less the same
19:51 RealBadAngel and im out of beer
19:52 RealBadAngel goin to bring some more ;)
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21:01 NekoGloop What is a CTCP PING?
21:06 RealBadAngel ping just
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21:06 RealBadAngel time from one client to another
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21:09 NekoGloop "_2cool4me4_ [~IceChat77@105.sub-97-44-35.myvzw.com] requested CTCP PING from NekoGloop: 67003256"
21:09 RealBadAngel tried to ping ya
21:09 NekoGloop >.>
21:09 NekoGloop What does that do?
21:10 RealBadAngel checks latency between two computers
21:11 RealBadAngel [NekoGloop PING reply]: 1sec
21:11 NekoGloop do I care?
21:12 RealBadAngel latency is important when you play online
21:12 RealBadAngel with latency like 300ms
21:12 RealBadAngel to the server. playin is not so comfortable
21:13 RealBadAngel all is strangely delayed
21:13 NekoGloop then why am I getting ping'd?
21:13 RealBadAngel aks pinger ;)
21:13 RealBadAngel *ask
21:13 RealBadAngel maybe wanted you to play ping pong? ;)
21:13 NekoGloop he left
21:14 RealBadAngel have you messed with tools?
21:15 RealBadAngel i need straight definition for just ONE tool, not the tables
21:15 NekoGloop lolno
21:15 RealBadAngel seen you have tools in ur mod
21:16 RealBadAngel made with tables
21:16 RealBadAngel its confusing
21:16 NekoGloop oh, you mean the gloopores or gloopblocks ones?
21:16 RealBadAngel yeah
21:16 NekoGloop ...
21:16 NekoGloop which ones
21:17 RealBadAngel gimme piece of code that defines just one tool
21:17 RealBadAngel with 10000 uses
21:17 RealBadAngel and no possibility to dig ANY block
21:18 RealBadAngel thats what i need
21:19 NekoGloop it cant break anything but needs 10000 uses?
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21:19 RealBadAngel yes
21:19 RealBadAngel exactly
21:20 NekoGloop I think you just define the tool, then edit the usage variable in other events.
21:20 RealBadAngel it gonna be a battery
21:21 RealBadAngel 10000 uses will carry its charge
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21:22 RealBadAngel but you shouldnt be able to break anything with its charge
21:23 NekoGloop minetest.register_tool("technic:battery", {description = "Battery", inventory_image = "technic_battery.png", tool_capabilities = {}})
21:24 NekoGloop in the events that you want the charge to decrease... you need to lower the usage variable, which I have no idea how to do that.
21:24 NekoGloop Notice how tool_capabilities is blank.
21:25 RealBadAngel i got abm with interface for loadin/unloadin already done
21:25 NekoGloop ok
21:25 RealBadAngel just need the tool (battery) definition with variable to change
21:25 NekoGloop so it adds to the battery's power while loaded?
21:25 NekoGloop hmm...
21:26 RealBadAngel with it you will be able to transport energy
21:26 RealBadAngel take energy from solar powered batbox
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21:26 RealBadAngel and go with batteries underground
21:26 RealBadAngel to load another batbo
21:26 RealBadAngel or to power tools
21:27 NekoGloop minetest.register_tool("technic:battery", {description = "Battery", inventory_image = "technic_battery.png", tool_capabilities = {max_drop_level=0, groupcaps={fleshy={times={}, uses=10000, maxlevel=0}}}}) SHOULD work
21:27 RealBadAngel lets try
21:28 RealBadAngel brb
21:28 NekoGloop By not specifying a time, the battery cannot break the blocks.
21:28 _2cool4me4_ Glad Neko is here!
21:29 NekoGloop Well you ping'd me earlier
21:29 _2cool4me4_ I was curious
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21:30 RealBadAngel hmmm
21:30 RealBadAngel how to access tools meta?
21:30 NekoGloop did it work or error out?
21:30 RealBadAngel got it defined
21:31 RealBadAngel now the way to access "uses" variable of it
21:31 NekoGloop idk
21:31 NekoGloop i think similar to the way you access a node's meta
21:32 RealBadAngel need an example tho
21:32 RealBadAngel anyone?
21:33 NekoGloop check mesecons :P
21:33 NekoGloop mesecons is good for reference of all sorts of thins
21:33 NekoGloop things*
21:33 RealBadAngel hehehe
21:33 _2cool4me4_ What is the code for OR in the microcontroller?
21:34 RealBadAngel you ask for logic rule?
21:34 _2cool4me4_ Wat
21:34 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B);
21:35 RealBadAngel on any input 1 gives 1 on output
21:35 _2cool4me4_ Thanks, I was just trying to find the right symbol between A and C.
21:35 RealBadAngel ah so
21:36 NekoGloop check the .pdf in the mod folder
21:37 RealBadAngel woohoo
21:37 RealBadAngel debug file grows ;)
21:37 RealBadAngel 1,5gb today :)
21:37 NekoGloop lol fail code?
21:38 RealBadAngel no
21:38 * _2cool4me4_ facepalms at himself
21:38 RealBadAngel i do make fake breakpoints in lua
21:38 RealBadAngel with print
21:38 NekoGloop lol
21:38 RealBadAngel to know what the code is doin
21:38 NekoGloop just think of what you're doing to muad's server ;)
21:39 RealBadAngel that code is only here
21:39 RealBadAngel i remove it in public releases
21:39 keegan Y were u guyz being mean to UbuntuNerd
21:39 NekoGloop Because he's a griefer, little boy.
21:40 RealBadAngel i just dump variables i need with print
21:40 RealBadAngel to check if everythin is workin fine
21:41 RealBadAngel little boy a nerd?
21:41 keegan and UbuntuNerd didnt steal RealBadAngels mod he didnt even know that RealBadAngels Mod Was Like
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21:41 RealBadAngel maybe when he will be grown up a little become a nerd
21:41 NekoGloop Get on the right name, madchicken
21:42 RealBadAngel now just dreaming of becomin a nerd
21:42 keegan So he is going to delete the post for bigger chests
21:42 RealBadAngel he should
21:42 keegan ok well he is
21:42 RealBadAngel because it was just mean
21:42 NekoGloop he posted it after saying that he took the code from rba
21:43 keegan he didnt do that because you made ur mod he did it because he saw that he could modify the code to chest
21:43 RealBadAngel whatever
21:43 keegan he used the Default chests code
21:44 RealBadAngel we were talking
21:44 RealBadAngel and after that conversation he made it
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21:44 RealBadAngel and then lied he made it 2 weeks before
21:44 keegan no he was working on that mod for 2 damn weeks
21:45 keegan before you guyz talked
21:45 RealBadAngel so
21:45 RealBadAngel what a coincidence
21:45 RealBadAngel one talk, one sight
21:45 RealBadAngel and made?
21:45 NekoGloop lol keegan == madchicken?
21:45 jin_xi bigger chest is trivial to make, why drama?
21:45 jin_xi patent it
21:45 RealBadAngel hehehe
21:46 RealBadAngel i wont
21:46 keegan i dont like it when you accuse my friend for crap he didnt do
21:46 RealBadAngel but i just pointed mean behaviour
21:46 RealBadAngel if asked me, help me plz
21:47 NekoGloop you're the one pulling the crap, keegan
21:47 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2763 can someone review my mod?
21:47 RealBadAngel i will do that with pleasure
21:47 RealBadAngel to help him out
21:47 _2cool4me4_ Can someone explain to me, what this argument is about?
21:48 mrtux dcc chat?
21:48 _2cool4me4_ Yes, I gave the request
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21:48 RealBadAngel nvm
21:48 mrtux wtf is it?
21:48 mrtux hi
21:48 _2cool4me4_ A type of chat
21:48 RealBadAngel my mod is not just chests anymore ;)
21:48 _2cool4me4_ But it isn't needed anymore
21:48 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i know
21:48 _2cool4me4_ Your link isn't working mrtux
21:49 keegan You guyz are doing to same thing you did to him when he tried to make something someone would like (AlwaysCraft)
21:49 RealBadAngel chests were lua lessons i had to take
21:49 _2cool4me4_ never mind, I found the problem
21:49 NekoGloop works fine for me
21:49 mrtux works for me
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21:49 NekoGloop keegan: I know, greifers stick together to the end, etc.
21:50 _2cool4me4_ Windows adds a %20 to things I copy from this program...
21:50 mrtux ah
21:50 RealBadAngel that what i made with placin wires i think is not to be copied just
21:50 _2cool4me4_ mrtux: which is a space
21:50 mrtux yeah
21:50 RealBadAngel and im kinda proud of it
21:51 RealBadAngel took a week to code it
21:54 RealBadAngel but now i do have code to make all kind of cables, transport pneumatic tubes
21:54 RealBadAngel easily, and good lookin
21:55 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jOtDkTOw3Y&amp;feature=related
21:56 RealBadAngel forgot to put trollface on ;)
21:56 NekoGloop not trolling
21:56 RealBadAngel hehehe
21:56 _2cool4me4_ I put in if(A|C) on(B);, and when I turn the inputs off, the output stays on! (hm)
21:56 RealBadAngel state of A and C?
21:56 _2cool4me4_ Off
21:56 RealBadAngel both?
21:56 _2cool4me4_ yep
21:57 RealBadAngel rape jeija then
21:57 RealBadAngel ;)
21:57 _2cool4me4_ o.o
21:57 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B); if(!A&!B) off(B);
21:57 RealBadAngel anyways
21:57 RealBadAngel shouldt that be A|B -> C?
21:58 _2cool4me4_ still stays on...
21:58 _2cool4me4_ I'll try it with A|B
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21:58 RealBadAngel logical
21:58 NekoGloop A and C are on opposite sides, looks better ingame
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21:58 RealBadAngel output shall be last
21:58 _2cool4me4_ Nope
21:59 RealBadAngel yes
21:59 _2cool4me4_ didn't work
21:59 NekoGloop did you type it right?
21:59 RealBadAngel so write him
21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C);
21:59 NekoGloop does the microcontroller display "Cod not valid!"
21:59 _2cool4me4_ grr
21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C) ;
21:59 RealBadAngel propably a glitch then
21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C );
21:59 NekoGloop you need to do an off event
21:59 _2cool4me4_ without that space
22:00 NekoGloop in PM since this is being retarded
22:00 RealBadAngel after releasin my update today i found several glitches already
22:00 RealBadAngel more complex stuff, more glitches
22:00 RealBadAngel Murphy's laws
22:00 NekoGloop Eddit Murphy? :D
22:01 NekoGloop Eddy*
22:01 RealBadAngel not really lol
22:01 NekoGloop :D
22:01 * NekoGloop is now trolling
22:01 * _2cool4me4_ is sad
22:01 NekoGloop Look at your PMs.
22:01 RealBadAngel man
22:01 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B); if(!A&!C) off(B);
22:01 NekoGloop Put that exactly.
22:02 RealBadAngel be happy you can have those glitches
22:02 RealBadAngel it implies that somethin is bein done
22:03 RealBadAngel once done we can have wonderfull tool to controll our stuff
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22:08 _2cool4me4_ They're coming for us all!
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22:08 _2cool4me4_ join spam?
22:08 JamieWill You xyz?
22:08 JamieWill Yo xyz
22:09 NekoGloop he's 2 cool 4 u
22:09 JamieWill lol
22:09 _2cool4me4_ who
22:09 _2cool4me4_ xyz
22:10 NekoGloop thexyz*
22:10 NekoGloop whom was just highlighted ;)
22:10 _2cool4me4_ oh
22:10 JamieWill yes
22:15 * NekoGloop kicks NekoGloop... wait what?
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22:26 JamieWill my server is dedicated and has a good admin
22:26 * NekoGloop kicks _2cool4me4_ because it's randomness hour
22:26 JamieWill lol
22:26 NekoGloop address to said server?
22:26 NekoGloop version?
22:27 NekoGloop port?
22:27 NekoGloop any information at all?
22:27 JamieWill * JamieWill kicks NekoGloop
22:27 NekoGloop ...?
22:27 JamieWill lol
22:27 * NekoGloop kicks JamieWill for not using /me
22:27 JamieWill version 0.4.1
22:27 JamieWill 89.242.64.58 port 30001
22:27 JamieWill oops
22:28 NekoGloop what port?
22:28 NekoGloop since I assumme you messed that up :P
22:28 * JamieWill kicks NekoGloop
22:28 NekoGloop nvm
22:28 NekoGloop OH GOD NO
22:28 JamieWill thats better shiz!
22:28 NekoGloop UBUNTU IS ADMIN
22:28 JamieWill Yeah?
22:29 NekoGloop Ima be banned every time he's on ;)
22:29 NekoGloop He hates me because I caught him griefing
22:29 JamieWill No as i removed his /ban he dont know
22:29 JamieWill i made a nice post on the frms
22:29 JamieWill whatt what mods
22:30 NekoGloop just tell me what the mods are
22:30 JamieWill y?
22:30 NekoGloop so I know what mods are in place
22:30 NekoGloop (not moderators, mods)
22:30 JamieWill Timber xdoors2 and tpr 3
22:31 JamieWill and soon to be forniture
22:31 NekoGloop bai bai
22:31 JamieWill bai
22:31 JamieWill its no that bad?...
22:32 NekoGloop going on a better server
22:32 JamieWill is it? which one#?
22:32 JamieWill its for a quiet mess around private but open to public
22:32 NekoGloop one of them
22:32 JamieWill which
22:33 NekoGloop one of them
22:33 JamieWill tell me so i can griefe your house]
22:33 NekoGloop i'm on one of the servers
22:34 * JamieWill killed NekoGloop cuz he is a D**K
22:34 NekoGloop I'm just not telling you because it's forbidden
22:34 JamieWill just tell mee
22:34 JamieWill twhich?
22:34 JamieWill on private
22:34 NekoGloop I'm just not telling you because it's forbidden
22:36 * JamieWill want to know or me gonna kill u u dirty black white piece of aisan african caribean shit fucking dick sucking homo lesbian straight guy?
22:36 NekoGloop ... no
22:37 JamieWill tell me?
22:37 * JamieWill does a puppy dog face/eyes?
22:37 JamieWill i really am doing the face tho
22:38 * NekoGloop shoves a knife through JamieWill's skull, in between the two lobes of his brain
22:38 * JamieWill think u have more than 2 lobes!
22:38 NekoGloop two halves
22:39 * JamieWill think me was right!
22:39 * JamieWill was right me think!
22:39 * NekoGloop twists the knife inside Jamie's skull
22:40 * JamieWill pulls the knife for my head and cuts of NekoGloops balls
22:40 * JamieWill can do that as he dont have any
22:40 JamieWill sorry
22:40 * NekoGloop has destroyed your frontal lobe, you cant see and thus missed
22:41 * JamieWill #want to know or me gonna kill u u dirty black white piece of aisan african caribean shit fucking dick sucking homo lesbian straight guy?
22:41 * NekoGloop gets a gun and shoots what remains of JamieWill's brain on the floor
22:41 * JamieWill u dont know the difference
22:42 * JamieWill gets a Shotgun
22:42 * NekoGloop severs JamieWill's neck
22:42 * JamieWill gets a sub lite machine gun
22:43 RealBadAngel shit, you guys are all pink
22:43 * JamieWill gets a chopper gunner
22:43 JamieWill lol
22:43 RealBadAngel with this conversation
22:43 JamieWill I know ^
22:43 * NekoGloop grabs rba's hair and kills JamieWill with it somehow
22:44 * JamieWill gets a AC-130
22:44 NekoGloop Oh, air conditioning :3
22:44 * JamieWill gets a nuke
22:44 NekoGloop Oh, you gonna drop that on yourself?
22:45 * JamieWill Uses the nuke at the ip of NekoGloop
22:45 RealBadAngel is that gonna end with orgasm or what?
22:45 NekoGloop lol ya right
22:45 * JamieWill not at his IRC ip his real IP
22:45 JamieWill lol
22:46 JamieWill that was fun!
22:46 * JamieWill think that was fun!
22:46 * NekoGloop pays Chuck Norris $999,999.99 to kick JamieWill's skull in
22:47 RealBadAngel sex is fun;)
22:47 * JamieWill pays Chuck Norris $1,000,000.00 to kick NekoGloop's skull in I win!
22:48 JamieWill lol ^^
22:48 RealBadAngel however normal folks dont use knives ;)
22:48 JamieWill lol
22:48 * NekoGloop is still the highest bidder because I made an automated bank transfer to give him $1,000,000.00 every day that he's alive
22:50 * NekoGloop shoves a knife up RealBadAngel's ass
22:50 * JamieWill was the one who processed that and I destroyed that Recored and didnt really process it :)
22:50 RealBadAngel excuse me, im normal one actually
22:50 JamieWill LOL^
22:51 JamieWill No one is normal but compare to us you appear very normal
22:51 NekoGloop BEN has come.
22:51 JamieWill ssloow for a comeback just likr your server lol
22:51 RealBadAngel get this ..uckin knife and put it somwhere elses
22:52 JamieWill lol
22:52 * JamieWill wins
22:53 * NekoGloop shoves the knife farther in and leaves it there
22:53 * JamieWill pulled it out and shoves it right up NekoGloop's ass
22:54 * NekoGloop wonders why you're defending rba ;)
22:54 * JamieWill defends him cuz he is nice
22:55 RealBadAngel hes not deending propably, hes jeleaus
22:55 RealBadAngel its between u two
22:55 RealBadAngel :P
22:55 NekoGloop I shoved it up your ass ;)
22:55 RealBadAngel were at wrong place wrong time ;)
22:55 * JamieWill also does it cuz he knows the brain has more than two lobes ;)
22:56 RealBadAngel you propably mistaken asses :P
22:56 JamieWill Yep
22:56 * NekoGloop meant rba's ass
22:57 * JamieWill thats cuz NekoGloop only has 2 brain lobes and cant think properly :)
22:57 NekoGloop I can think more than you can
22:58 RealBadAngel 21st century we call it two cores
22:59 JamieWill wtf? just happened
22:59 RealBadAngel he can think eat and shit at the very same time. its called multithreading
22:59 JamieWill lol^
23:00 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpayvIQ7Cfo
23:00 JamieWill wtf^
23:01 NekoGloop Bacterial Contamination, cover by Vocaloid3 SeeU
23:01 JamieWill just no!
23:03 * JamieWill <3
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23:03 JamieWill chicken!
23:03 madchicken13 Hello i got a Q
23:04 RealBadAngel 13 chcickens even
23:04 madchicken13 thats odd lolz
23:04 JamieWill ytr-123
23:04 madchicken13 o hello
23:04 * NekoGloop kills ubuntunerd for greifing zenoheld the backstab server
23:05 * JamieWill thinks
23:05 RealBadAngel theres one here with one lob responsible for eating
23:05 RealBadAngel maybe he wil go for a chicken
23:05 * JamieWill thinks NekoGloop is high!
23:05 * NekoGloop thinks JamieWill is oblivious
23:05 * madchicken13 thinks so to
23:06 madchicken13 lolz sorry
23:06 * JamieWill thinks madchicken13 should shut the fuck up
23:06 madchicken13 sorry
23:06 * JamieWill wink wink
23:06 NekoGloop dude. You griefed and then said you did nothing.
23:06 JamieWill lol^
23:06 RealBadAngel 12 chicken shall be aware tho of shittin possibity
23:06 RealBadAngel and knives too
23:07 madchicken13 What did I do?
23:07 * JamieWill gets the nuke ready
23:07 RealBadAngel you sir nothin
23:07 madchicken13 sorry for Griefing damn drop it
23:07 RealBadAngel i just warned ya
23:07 madchicken13 it was a Bad idea
23:08 * JamieWill Nuke inbound 5,4,3
23:08 * JamieWill Impact from Nuke
23:08 madchicken13 Can i ask my Question?
23:08 JamieWill yes
23:08 madchicken13 can you code ?
23:08 JamieWill ti gt xdoors to work
23:09 madchicken13 ok
23:09 JamieWill me? not a chance in hell unless you want a virus?
23:09 JamieWill then were talking#
23:09 madchicken13 so how would i make a mod that lets someone add Waprps and lets Others /warp to that spot
23:10 JamieWill just do tp or something but diff code
23:10 madchicken13 like a warp mod for servers
23:10 JamieWill tbut also use some code from/spawn?
23:11 madchicken13 what is the name of that mod?
23:11 JamieWill do spawn but add another /spawn 1 but change the code to name it warp?
23:12 JamieWill idk?
23:12 madchicken13 No where can i get that mod to reference the code?
23:12 madchicken13 ill ask RedCrab he has the mod on his server
23:12 JamieWill on the fourms somewhere?
23:12 JamieWill i know i think
23:12 madchicken13 cyah'll
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23:14 bas080 <3 the new mods that have been prublished while I was gone in the weekend.
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23:17 NekoGloop Me: Yay~ I have a ton of mese~
23:18 NekoGloop Minetest: Nope, I gave you an inventory full of sh*t.
23:18 NekoGloop Me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--
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23:29 sdzen madchicken just use the bookmark mod
23:29 sdzen wait hes gone XD
23:29 NekoGloop madchicken13: use the mod that makes you chut up and stop grieving
23:29 NekoGloop shut*
23:31 NekoGloop can someone point me to a good tutorial on minetest modding?
23:31 NakedFury there are non
23:32 NekoGloop the one that celeron put up himself
23:32 NekoGloop could I get a link?
23:32 NekoGloop I dont remember personally.
23:34 leo_rockway I played MC last night.
23:34 leo_rockway I think MT has the potential to get way better than MC.
23:35 leo_rockway and it's already better in many things.
23:36 NekoGloop Twas better when it first came out, for it was free.
23:39 NekoGloop JamieWill: Put up the 0.4.2-rc1 server
23:39 leo_rockway yes, I know. I think free is always better.
23:39 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I mean the playability. Game mechanics.
23:39 NekoGloop So? That's what mods are for.
23:39 leo_rockway exactly
23:39 leo_rockway there are a few things which are definitely weird in MT...
23:40 leo_rockway water physics and falling acceleration.
23:40 leo_rockway I can see that now. I have friends who play MC and they pointed this out to me. Water in MT feels like jello.
23:40 NekoGloop I think they're just fine.
23:40 leo_rockway and when you fall it feels like you're gliding down.
23:40 NekoGloop And I've played both
23:40 leo_rockway the thing I'm looking forward to the most is proper mobs.
23:40 leo_rockway animals is extremely laggy. It's a hack.
23:41 NekoGloop Hm?
23:41 leo_rockway the animals mod
23:41 NekoGloop The mobs that are made for 0.4.2-rc1 by celeron55 is also laggy.
23:42 NekoGloop Lots of entities lag MT
23:42 leo_rockway yes, but it's only a concept. He didn't include them officially because of that.
23:42 NekoGloop MC doesnt have this because the world is a fraction of the size.
23:43 leo_rockway mhm
23:44 NekoGloop 31000x31000x31000 and 256x256x256 are two very different fields to process.
23:44 NekoGloop Actually, it's double that
23:45 leo_rockway also, the map generation of MC is worse, IMO.
23:45 NekoGloop 62000x62000x62000 and 512x512x512.
23:45 leo_rockway on my first try I spawned in the middle of the sea and there wasn't any land around...
23:46 NekoGloop ikr
23:46 NekoGloop in MT the same can happen though.
23:46 NekoGloop just less likely
23:47 leo_rockway yes, I think MT has a better map generator.
23:47 leo_rockway for creative mode MT is already better than MC, I think.
23:47 NekoGloop at least it has more room to spit you out on
23:47 leo_rockway pixel art, etc.
23:48 NekoGloop yup
23:48 NekoGloop MT actually has more colors circa UnifiedBricks
23:48 leo_rockway mhm
23:48 NakedFury dont compare modden mt to vanilla mc
23:49 leo_rockway I don't know any MC mods.
23:49 leo_rockway what I tried was vanilla MC
23:49 NakedFury well vanilla is still a little, just a little better than minetest
23:50 FreeFull leo_rockway: Same thing happened on my first MC try
23:50 FreeFull All I had was pumpkins
23:50 NekoGloop We need to have an adventure-quest-esque gamemode
23:50 leo_rockway FreeFull: in the map I actually ended up playing, I had jungle all around me. I had to walk for a while to find my way out.
23:51 NekoGloop adventure-craft-esque*
23:51 leo_rockway yes!
23:51 leo_rockway ++
23:51 FreeFull leo_rockway: In the map I ended up playing on (third map), I ended up on the edge of jungle and taiga
23:52 leo_rockway then then when I died in MC instead of respawning on my bed once, I respawned in a lava lake
23:53 * VanessaE wanders in
23:53 NekoGloop Ohai VanessaE
23:53 VanessaE hey hey
23:54 leo_rockway \ø hello
23:54 NekoGloop Did you see that Jeija's speed improvent f*cked up delayers?
23:54 NekoGloop So that time there was something actually wrong with them?
23:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: he knows they're messed up
23:55 NekoGloop he fixed them :P
23:55 VanessaE oh good
23:55 NekoGloop otherwise that would have been pointed at Jeija himself
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23:56 keegan hello
23:56 VanessaE so that aside, what did I miss? :-)
23:56 VanessaE evening keegan
23:56 leo_rockway I tried MC
23:57 NekoGloop You missed a certain server getting a new computer to run on.
23:57 keegan why
23:57 VanessaE leo_rockway: and you still have hair? ;-)
23:58 leo_rockway and a unix neckbeard o.o
23:58 VanessaE :D
23:59 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhLi81HeM8 :D

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