Time Nick Message 00:07 JamieWill Alt = F4 lets go 00:07 JamieWill 5 00:07 JamieWill * + 00:07 JamieWill 5 00:07 JamieWill 4 00:07 JamieWill 3 00:07 JamieWill 2 00:07 JamieWill 1 00:07 JamieWill 0 00:07 JamieWill lol 00:12 leo_rockway JamieWill: my IRC runs on a remote server... if I hit alt+F4 you wouldn't see me disconnecting o.0 00:13 JamieWill oh 00:13 leo_rockway that's how I'm online 24/07 00:13 hmmmm i need to talk to celeron before i do anything 00:13 hmmmm i have to know what style he's conforming to 00:13 leo_rockway isn't there a style guide somewhere? 00:13 JamieWill lol 00:13 hmmmm i would use the source as a style guide but it's all varied and inconsistent 00:14 JamieWill impulse is back! 00:14 hmmmm sometimes it's if (foo)\n{\nbar();\n} 00:14 hmmmm sometimes the { is on the same line 00:14 hmmmm sometimes there are no spaces in between keywords and control structures 00:14 leo_rockway what a mess! 00:14 NakedFury use your most clean style 00:15 NakedFury forget what style he uses since he switches based on his mood apparently 00:15 leo_rockway I think writing a style guide and putting it on the wiki would be an improvement. 00:15 hmmmm also, this is a personal thing but, i find that putting { on a different line is very difficult to read 00:15 leo_rockway if celeron starts to follow it, that is. 00:15 hmmmm also makes things bloaty 00:15 leo_rockway hmmmm: I think so too, but most people disagree. 00:15 NakedFury something here 00:15 NakedFury { 00:15 NakedFury } 00:15 NakedFury end 00:16 NakedFury like that? 00:16 hmmmm yes 00:16 NakedFury you would do something { 00:16 hmmmm yeah. 00:16 NakedFury stuf } end? 00:16 hmmmm my own style is very close to the Linux kernel style 00:16 hmmmm which is rather optimal, probably why it was adopted 00:17 NakedFury then use it 00:17 hmmmm I can't help but feel like the bloaty coding style alone contributes to about 40% of the code 00:17 hmmmm in terms of LoC 00:18 JamieWill great chat! 00:19 hmmmm alright i can do this 00:20 leo_rockway how does one escape chars in Lua? 00:20 leo_rockway http://paste.kde.org/~minetest/532820/ 00:20 leo_rockway I don't want it to print anything 00:25 jin_xi there is a style guide somewhere 00:26 jin_xi it talks about {'s 00:27 jin_xi http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=contrib here 00:30 vicscandl ahhhhhh cerveza sabor completo! 00:30 Keegan__ hello 00:30 vicscandl yo Keeg, whats the happs? 00:31 NekoGloop Torches burn. LOGIC == 0 00:31 vicscandl hmmmm: i was thinking that due to the use of newline as the terminator, you can't edge TCP transmissons by whitestripping the scriptcode. 00:33 hmmmm was that ment to me? 00:33 vicscandl data structures can be trimmed as the ',' is used, and then between the concat ('..') most put spaces, but as a whole.... without an actual line terminator that is used.... 00:33 vicscandl hmmmm: yea 00:33 hmmmm i don't really get what you're saying 00:33 vicscandl code style vs. its use in reality 00:33 hmmmm what does it have to do with tcp transmissions? 00:33 vicscandl ok, if you have a EOL terminator, like ';' in c. 00:33 vicscandl you can strip all the whitespace and save TCP traffic when transmitting the scripted code back and forth 00:34 hmmmm what scripted code? 00:34 vicscandl lua 00:34 hmmmm i'm not working with lua 00:34 vicscandl hmmmm: yea, i know... 00:34 Keegan__ nothing 00:34 hmmmm i'm confused 00:34 NekoGloop he's f*cking up minetest itself 00:34 vicscandl hmmmm: but you *are* working on the system that interpets it for use to make the game 00:35 hmmmm no, right now i'm fixing the_game() 00:35 vicscandl hmmmm: from your comments about the code earlier, i assume you are looking for speed/cpu cycle enhancements vs in-game tools? 00:35 vicscandl hmmmm: perhaps i read your verbage incorrect. 00:36 hmmmm right now i just want to get the shutdown working properly on my system 00:36 hmmmm i don't plan on doing speed enhancements until later on when i go to fix worldedit copy and paste 00:37 hmmmm basically i'm just doing cleanups and fixes at this point 00:37 vicscandl hehehe... ok, just throwin my $0.02 00:37 NekoGloop And that made $0.00 00:37 hmmmm i giggled :) 00:38 vicscandl NekoGloop: perfect, cause information should be free, as in beer. 00:38 NekoGloop ... I mean that made no cents (sense) 01:09 hmmmm inventorymanager.cpp:376 - what on earth? 01:09 hmmmm if(!dst_can_put_count != -1){ 01:09 hmmmm what is he trying to do exactly? i can tell it's a bug in 50% of the cases 01:16 jin_xi hey, its correct the other 50%, right? 01:16 hmmmm sure 01:17 vicscandl hmmmm: nasty 01:18 vicscandl so not(dst_can_put_count) is not equal to (-1) 01:18 vicscandl dst = 0; !(0) != -1 01:18 jin_xi heard people talking about a bug that eats their items 01:18 vicscandl dst = 1; !(1) != -1 01:19 NekoGloop it's called /pulverize ;) 01:19 hmmmm what's interesting is that dst_can_put_count is actually defined as an int and initialized with 65535 01:19 hmmmm like i said, i'm just not sure at all what the intent of that code is - i can't interpret it 01:20 vicscandl hmmmm: if that were me, i'd say i left some "testing code" behind as when i'm fighting an if, i'll just unit test it by hand with all options 01:21 jin_xi its the same in the check above 01:21 vicscandl jin_xi: then that's a sloppy-copy 01:22 hmmmm well, it's a bug that's going to detonate minetest at some point when i'm managing my inventory, just don't know when 01:22 hmmmm i'm not too concerned about the inventory anyway :p 01:22 vicscandl well, thats what we call it here at my codeshop 01:23 VanessaE there. 01:23 NekoGloop what? 01:23 hmmmm over here 01:23 VanessaE NekoGloop: please pull from https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest-mod-mesecons to get the latest changes 01:23 NekoGloop sure, as I start up a game 01:23 vicscandl VanessaE: oooo hoping later today to have my 0.1 up on git 01:23 VanessaE (s/pull/download a zip because iPAD is brain dead/) 01:23 NekoGloop I'm on my comp now 01:24 VanessaE ok 01:24 NekoGloop Have been for hours now :P 01:24 mrtux vanessae, i followed you on github 01:26 jin_xi night all 01:26 mrtux night 01:26 * vicscandl tucks jin_xi in for the night... 01:27 VanessaE night jin_xi 01:27 VanessaE mrtux: like what you're seeing so far? :-) 01:27 mrtux yes 01:28 mrtux i like how mesecons is turning into 01:28 NekoGloop Delayers are still useless 01:28 mrtux everything looks more real 01:28 VanessaE Neko: i used them. they work fine for me 01:28 mrtux the nodeboxes and such 01:28 vicscandl VanessaE: i second mrtux's oppinion 01:28 NekoGloop Please, use my full name to highlight me :P 01:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: make sure you are putting power into the correct end of the delayer 01:28 vicscandl NekoGloop: update your regex to include Neko silly 01:28 VanessaE the arrow thereon is supposed to suggest the current flow. 01:29 NekoGloop The one that the arrow is pointin away from is the input? 01:29 NekoGloop Yeah, still useless. 01:29 VanessaE NekoGloop: I know for a fact they work because I *just* used them. 01:29 vicscandl NekoGloop: people start talking about vics vapo-rub and my filter goes bonkers! 01:29 NekoGloop Do they support Minetest? 01:30 * vicscandl hands Neko a new tube of model glue... 01:30 NekoGloop ok, for some reason the delayer lights up rnaomdly 01:31 VanessaE whaa? 01:31 VanessaE are you sure you have the *most* recent code? 01:31 VanessaE and that you don't have two copies of the mesecons mod floating around? 01:32 NekoGloop the delayer is working, just lights up whenever it GETS power, not SENDS power 01:32 VanessaE correct 01:32 sdzen ive used delayers before 01:32 VanessaE I'll bring that up with jeija tomorrow, see if we can find a way to make it light up on output instead 01:32 sdzen set up too many in tandem they stop running 01:34 sdzen it took me about 8 in tandem full delay setting to do so though 01:34 VanessaE it seems like these latest changes result in faster circuits btw 01:35 NekoGloop now I have a repeating tune 01:35 NekoGloop And it's getting annoying 01:35 VanessaE hehe 01:35 VanessaE well at least you got the tune to PLAY this time ;-) 01:36 NekoGloop I may have to make some changes 01:36 VanessaE sldo, you should be able to craft player detectors now :-) 01:36 VanessaE also* 01:36 OldCoder I've built MT client previously for my distro. Will built server and client for new releases soon. Question: Would it be possible to cross-build the Windows client? 01:36 OldCoder *Will build 01:37 VanessaE make a microcontroller, combine that with steel blocks and mesecon wire as with the old "IC" based recipe. 01:37 mrtux lol mesecon arduinos 01:37 VanessaE OldCoder: not sure how; seems like windows releases are built on that OS instead of windows 01:37 VanessaE mrtux: more or less! 01:37 VanessaE they're fairly basic but capable 01:37 mrtux the microcontrollers should be able to be programmed 01:38 mrtux so you could make them do stuff 01:38 VanessaE they can be, yes. 01:38 VanessaE right click, enter some code as described in the PDF :-) 01:38 mrtux lol 01:38 * vicscandl laughs: "/time 5150" is sunriseish 01:38 VanessaE or click one of the shortcut buttons for AND, NOR, Flipflop, etc. 01:39 mrtux I might make the fireplace mod I'm working on mesecons-compatible 01:39 mrtux so you can turn on fireplaces with mesecons :P 01:39 VanessaE heh 01:39 OldCoder VanessaE, well yes; normally they would be 01:39 vicscandl VanessaE: beyond my demo later tonight, my mod will prob require mesecons for future expansion... 01:39 OldCoder But things can be cross-built 01:39 OldCoder Who builds the Windows EXEs? 01:40 VanessaE OldCoder: I think sfan5 does 01:40 VanessaE vicscandl: cool :-() 01:40 VanessaE vicscandl: I need to update homedecor btw - it still uses the old IC to craft TVs and stereos 01:40 OldCoder VanessaE, thank you 01:40 mrtux i suck at graphics :( 01:41 NekoGloop lol only half of my piston door closed xD 01:41 OldCoder mrtux, then do something else; I am confident there is something you will find worthwhile 01:41 mrtux it's dissapointing because my mother is an art teacher... 01:41 VanessaE I seem to be fairly good at gfx :-) 01:41 OldCoder mrtux, So? 01:41 mrtux lol 01:41 OldCoder mrtux, Are you your mother? 01:41 vicscandl i like VanessaE's graphics 01:41 mrtux no 01:41 OldCoder Sounds like a Dr. Suess book 01:41 OldCoder "Are you your mother 01:41 OldCoder No I am not 01:41 OldCoder But I had thought 01:41 OldCoder I was" 01:41 mrtux but i'm good at art, just not on the computer 01:41 OldCoder 01:41 OldCoder mrtux, Then draw 01:41 vicscandl OldCoder: +5 01:41 mrtux someone buy me a graphics tablet thanks 01:41 OldCoder Or perhaps try Inkscape 01:42 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmm inkscape 01:42 mrtux hmm good idea 01:42 VanessaE vicscandl: the irony is, I'm too lazy to update my photorealistic tex pack to match the changes jeija and I have made over the past couple weeks :-) 01:42 mrtux vector graphics ftw 01:42 OldCoder Use the portable version 01:42 mrtux ok 01:42 OldCoder http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/inkscape_portable 01:42 vicscandl VanessaE: you are excused... code over graphics in my book. pretty pictures can wait over functionality 01:43 mrtux hopefully it will run on my sh---- commputer 01:43 OldCoder mrtux, it should be fine 01:43 vicscandl OldCoder: snap! that android capable? 01:43 OldCoder vicscandl, Inkscape? I don't think so but checking 01:43 mrtux i'm downloading inkscape portable 01:43 mrtux vector graphics :) 01:43 vicscandl mrtux: inkscape is effing awesome: FOSS version of illustrator, fully functional 01:43 NekoGloop now you can turn off my little music loop if it gets too annoying :3 01:43 mrtux ok 01:44 mrtux that's good to know :) 01:44 OldCoder vicscandl, Looks like no but you are not the first one to express interest 01:44 vicscandl inkscape is to illustrator as gimp is to photoshop 01:44 OldCoder ^ yes 01:44 mrtux now i need a wacom tablet 01:44 vicscandl vicscandl is to icebox as beer is to empty 01:44 mrtux I'm good at drawing, I just can't draw with a mouse 01:45 sdzen i draw better with my mouse than my wacom tablet some days 01:45 sdzen today is one of those days 01:45 mrtux if i was doing pixel art, a mouse is just fine obviously 01:48 vicscandl prefered: http://bit.ly/Kp6BzL 01:48 NekoGloop I dont own a tablet 01:48 OldCoder How much is a used but good condition tablet? 01:48 mrtux oh god a bit.ly link 01:48 vicscandl mrtux: its so a link to goats.ex 01:48 vicscandl hahahah 01:49 mrtux lol 01:49 vicscandl ((its not, it goes to logitech's site; promise)) 01:49 mrtux I have noscript and all those privacy addons in firefox so i'm technically safe 01:49 vicscandl mrtux: oh, thoes are soooo easy to get around.... :) 01:49 mrtux I'm a privacy freak 01:50 mrtux orly 01:51 vicscandl mrtux: yea, double bounce the shortener and then use a private shortener to bypass security. 01:51 mrtux hmm 01:51 vicscandl mrtux: only savehaven is a non-connected boxen. i still run a BBS for said reasons. :) 01:52 VanessaE vicscandl: you mean a real, honest-to-G*d dialup BBS? 01:52 vicscandl mrtux: yes, phone dialup 01:52 VanessaE cool! 01:52 mrtux awesome 01:52 vicscandl beleive it or not, my fully modded WWIV 4.12 01:52 VanessaE I thought the concept dead. gives a good feeling they still exist 01:52 vicscandl wayne bell is a fucking hooker 01:52 VanessaE WWIV.. I remember that 01:52 mrtux now to go on ebay and buy a dialup modem 01:53 mrtux then hook up an old dos computer to it and telnet into it idk 01:53 vicscandl bbs darknet; complex is meshed into it as well. :) 01:53 servvs anyone here use fedora? 01:54 mrtux nope 01:54 vicscandl servvs: i have an old server that still runs it... 01:55 vicscandl servvs: thx, going to update that beast right now; damn 01:55 sdzen I used it once I think 01:55 servvs lol 01:55 sdzen does fedora 7 count as fedora? 01:55 servvs I have been thinking about switching from ubuntu to fedora 01:55 sdzen or is it too old? 01:55 servvs eh, probably 01:55 OldCoder mrtux, Go the opposite way. You don't need NoScript. Simply delete Flash and Java and all closed-source toolbars 01:55 OldCoder Do not use Red Hat 01:55 vicscandl i think they are beyond 9 or something now 01:56 OldCoder No RHEL or Fedora 01:56 sdzen last i heard it was at like 16 01:56 servvs 17 now 01:56 OldCoder RPM Distros are Death 01:56 OldCoder :-) 01:56 servvs but from what I've read, it has poor support for drivers for propriety hardware 01:56 sdzen i thought yggdrasil distros were true death? 01:56 servvs not sure what wouldn't work after I installed it, lol 01:56 vicscandl most of my servers run centos or debian; have a few freeBSD boxen for database. 01:57 servvs yeah I use debian or ubuntu for servers 01:57 vicscandl home machines are all ubuntu for ease of use. 01:57 servvs the reason I am thinking about switching 01:57 mrtux i like inkscape 01:57 servvs is, I updated my ubuntu today, and it failed to boot after that 01:57 mrtux i can now draw with a mouse :) 01:57 vicscandl servvs: best suggestion... buy a cheap old box and setup a dedicated server if you can. 01:57 OldCoder mrtux, It will take time to learn fully. But somebody like you can master it. 01:58 servvs had to go to a tty station to manually install lightdm because GDM started to fail 01:58 servvs I have one set up vicscandl 01:58 mrtux i'm just messing with it oldcoder, might use it to make some graphics and sh*t 01:58 servvs 2.7ghz dual core, 3 gigs of ram, lol 01:58 vicscandl servvs: multi-boot that trashboxen and try all the distros 01:59 servvs I might try that, don't have anything on there that I need except for my eggdrop conf 01:59 vicscandl my prefered method is to have a bunch of 16g thumb drives that headless boot my machines and talk to the server for programs and the NAS for storage. 01:59 OldCoder mrtux, Sure 01:59 OldCoder trashboxen 01:59 OldCoder ^ goes in Cool Phrases file 01:59 vicscandl OldCoder: aye, trashboxen 02:00 vicscandl OldCoder: previously known as bitchbox 02:00 OldCoder The two terms are the same? 02:00 OldCoder Define 02:00 servvs my trashbox ran windows 8 02:00 servvs will never run windows again after seeing that eyesore 02:00 OldCoder Define 02:00 vicscandl OldCoder: hardware that don't mean shit to you 02:00 OldCoder Ah 02:00 OldCoder Disposable 02:01 sdzen i thought those were shanty servers? 02:01 vicscandl so yea, trashboxen = bitchbox = disposable/easily replaced hardware 02:01 vicscandl sdzen: shanty? that come with a fat spliff too? 02:02 * vicscandl tunes the cablemusic to the reggae channel 02:03 vicscandl ok, i'm getting pissed at my luacode 02:03 vicscandl i'm gonna actually ask for some help for a change instead of balls-to-the-walling it 02:03 VanessaE "balls to the walling it" 02:03 VanessaE lol 02:03 VanessaE that's a new one :-) 02:04 VanessaE is that a step above or a step below brute-forcing something? 02:04 vicscandl ie: not asking for help to see how far i can get before i give up on a new language 02:04 vicscandl its more a battle with the api/docs at this point... 02:04 vicscandl and just not finding code in repos that does what i want, nor the default game mods 02:04 vicscandl ok, here we go, lemme go pastebin/imgur some shit so this makes sense 02:06 vicscandl {{ right now, this is for me, not you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ }} 02:07 vicscandl pre-pastebin: ok, i have some "items" that have a minetest.register_craft() but no minetest.register_node() 02:08 vicscandl i have another item, that when fueled, will produce these items and eject them above if the node above is "air" 02:08 vicscandl they drop into game as a "small icon" instead of a full node as there is no node def. 02:09 VanessaE at least, you need a register_craftitem call 02:09 vicscandl what i *want* to do is find out if there is one of the "small icon" items in the node above. 02:09 vicscandl VanessaE: they are in there as well 02:09 VanessaE ok 02:09 VanessaE so you want to look for the presence of an entity then 02:09 vicscandl its generating fine, its just it will push all 4 generations into the node above 02:09 VanessaE good question :-) 02:09 vicscandl VanessaE: codesample? 02:10 vicscandl or the api call to do so as i'm not a googlephobe. 02:10 VanessaE might be easier to place a transparent cube there and select *that* 02:10 vicscandl VanessaE: no, because i don't really *want* a node in that space... 02:10 VanessaE but that won't tell you if entities are there, unless of course you always place/remove the cube :-) 02:10 VanessaE oops 02:10 VanessaE ok then I dunno :-) 02:10 * VanessaE looks in the api 02:11 vicscandl i'm thinking that this could also be an issue: when you just place the generator in a node on a fresh worldbuild, sometimes the call produces nil as the node above being air is not defined in the sql db (assumption) 02:12 VanessaE the only thing I see so far is the get_luaentity() function 02:12 VanessaE (but how it is used isn't documented) 02:12 vicscandl lemme go open the server up so you can log in; you have an rc1 client handy? 02:12 VanessaE yeah 02:12 vicscandl VanessaE: its going to lag as its wifi to my lappy; sorry 02:12 VanessaE noprob 02:13 * VanessaE waits... 02:14 * VanessaE waits some more... 02:15 vicscandl VanessaE: sorry, new router; gimme a min 02:15 vicscandl VanessaE: just changed providers into the house for my use; mainline offlimits for funtime. :( 02:15 VanessaE yeah yeah, excuses ;-) 02:16 VanessaE you on a metered connection or something 02:16 VanessaE ? 02:18 vicscandl VanessaE: no, cableboxen for fun; fios for company backup servers 02:18 VanessaE ah 02:18 VanessaE I forgot about that 02:18 vicscandl VanessaE: hang on, this new router is total CRAP 02:19 VanessaE no prob 02:19 * VanessaE waits even more... 02:19 VanessaE *taps foot impatiently* *looks at wristwatch* 02:19 vicscandl VanessaE: ok, got the port forward working, now let me go compile another client so we can both connect 02:19 VanessaE ;-) 02:19 vicscandl VanessaE: fuck woman! 02:19 Basstard` Tom Waits even more. 02:19 VanessaE lol 02:19 vicscandl Basstard`: i <3 you for that one 02:19 VanessaE I'm just bustin on you vic :-) 02:20 Basstard` Bustin, eh? 02:20 vicscandl VanessaE: rightfully so... i'm lagging on my demo even!!!!!!!!! 02:23 VanessaE heh 02:23 hmmmm is there now a 'stone' biome in addition to default and desert? 02:24 hmmmm if not, i suspect that the mud flow function is failing in some portions of the map near deserts 02:24 VanessaE no but there is a rarely-generated "gravel" thing that shows up from time to time 02:24 VanessaE not so much a biome as a large patch thereof 02:25 hmmmm oh great 02:25 hmmmm yet another mapgen bug 02:26 VanessaE important thing about the map generator: if you do manage to pull it back into C++, make sure you expose enough API hooks so existing mapgen-related mods can still work 02:26 hmmmm only ore generation is exposed through lua right now 02:26 hmmmm it seems like he came back to his senses! 02:27 vicscandl building secondary client 02:27 hmmmm what are your opinions on dungeons? 02:27 vicscandl hmmmm: so thought of making a D&D type addon from v1 02:28 vicscandl hmmmm: there was a dungen generator in the back of the DM's guide... 02:28 hmmmm i'm talking about dungeons in minetest 02:28 VanessaE I have no use for dungeons personally 02:28 hmmmm lol 02:28 hmmmm you don't like mossy cobble? 02:28 vicscandl hmmmm: i'm talking about an algrothim that already works for "random dungeon generation" 02:29 VanessaE I didn't say that 02:29 hmmmm vicsandl, it's there already but it's partially broken. 02:29 VanessaE I just don't see a point that isn't already covered by caves in the existing mapgen 02:29 hmmmm and as a result it's disabled 02:29 vicscandl hmmmm: so rad, monster here, turn left there, trap here, treasure chest there... 02:29 VanessaE hmmmm: c55 also releases a dungeons-and-mobs mod 02:29 VanessaE released* 02:30 hmmmm oh, that's for dungeons too? 02:30 hmmmm great, nevermind then 02:30 VanessaE apparently so yeah 02:30 mrtux i never to inkscape 02:30 VanessaE in lua of course 02:30 mrtux i guess i just can't do graphics :P 02:39 mrtux I'm going to contribute to mesecons 02:39 mrtux all i'm going to do is just add a kind of wire 02:39 VanessaE a kind of wire? 02:40 mrtux yes 02:40 mrtux vertical mesecons 02:40 VanessaE already there. 02:40 VanessaE sorta 02:40 mrtux oh 02:40 VanessaE all you need to do is tweak the autorouting code to be able to go straight up 2+ blocks 02:41 mrtux sweet 02:41 mrtux nvm then 02:41 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing2.png 02:41 VanessaE that's what it does now 02:41 VanessaE I think if you stack them they go up too 02:41 VanessaE but not along the side of a node 02:41 mrtux nice 02:42 mrtux can it go up over 10 blocks 02:42 mrtux so i could make a huge lighting system for a tower? 02:42 VanessaE lemme see 02:42 mrtux ok 02:43 VanessaE ok 02:43 mrtux does it work? 02:43 VanessaE yes you *can* go vertical but it takes twice as much mese wire as going horizontal 02:43 mrtux oh 02:44 VanessaE I'll bring it up with jeija 02:44 mrtux it's ok though because i wouldn't have to wrap wires all around stuff 02:45 VanessaE anyway, I just stacked a bunch up about 8 high, 2 wide and the signal does propagate up 02:45 NakedFury question: does it allow more than one wire line in say a 1x1 tunnel? 02:45 VanessaE NakedFury: no. that would require 2+ nodes inside the same space 02:45 NakedFury ok 02:46 NakedFury still vertical is better than nothing 02:46 mrtux i don't mind loosing wires because i always just do /giveme for them on my server :P 02:50 VanessaE yeah but what about tightening them? 02:56 mrtux I'm making a mod that adds apple juice to minetest 02:57 VanessaE cool 02:57 VanessaE good luck finding apples, they don't generate in 0.4.2 unless you have cpuhog-pack...er..nature pack 02:57 mrtux awwwwww :( 02:57 mrtux why did they remove apples 02:57 VanessaE be back in a bit.. time to bowl 02:58 mrtux ok 02:58 VanessaE it's a bug I'm sure. 02:58 VanessaE bbl 02:58 mrtux ok 02:58 mrtux i hope it's a bug 02:58 mrtux or my mod's useless 02:58 * vicscandl sends the scantaly clad male waiter towards VanessaE's lane... 02:59 mrtux i bet i could just use an older minetest_game game and keep my beloved apples 02:59 vicscandl i so just shuddered thinking back to the old MUD days... 03:00 vicscandl for all you kids out there: MUD == MMO, Zork style. 03:02 vicscandl is MT both UDP/TCP, or just TCP? 03:03 vicscandl {{ having issues with this stupid new router that is not a wrt54g! }} 03:05 vicscandl routers are so lame; they need to be able to DMZ more than a single internal ip address.... 03:05 vicscandl s/^/commercial / 03:06 sdzen UDP 03:06 vicscandl sdzen: so yea, both.. thats prob my issue with this.. thx 03:07 * vicscandl slides sdzen a beverage of his choice... 03:10 hmmmm WTF, it's obviously tcp 03:10 Basstard` UCP 03:11 sdzen UDP 03:11 vicscandl hmmmm: i know that, some games don't require UDP as well... 03:11 * vicscandl hooks up the wireshark for this one... 03:12 sdzen only UDP! 03:12 vicscandl sdzen: really? 03:12 sdzen GRRRRRR 03:12 sdzen yes 03:12 vicscandl hgahahah i'm an asshat 03:12 vicscandl thx for pointing it out! 03:12 * vicscandl slides sdzen another beverage... 03:12 Basstard` How do you wear an asshat? 03:13 vicscandl Basstard`: with pride! 03:17 vicscandl images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=asshat&oq=asshat 03:29 * VanessaE is back 03:29 VanessaE only had two games in me today 03:29 VanessaE *pant* *heave* *sweat* 03:30 vicscandl 300's? 03:31 VanessaE I wish 03:31 VanessaE but I'm a pro, says the game :-) 03:34 mrtux i'm going to post in the forums now 03:34 mrtux on my mod 03:34 mrtux it adds in apple juice and water cups 03:35 VanessaE wait 03:36 VanessaE there are drinking glasses in the vessels mod. :-) 03:36 mrtux oh 03:36 mrtux Eventually I might make it depend on the vessels mod i guesss 03:37 mrtux *guess 03:37 sdzen not depend 03:37 mrtux i hate dependencies 03:37 sdzen have an potional addition 03:37 sdzen optional* 03:37 mrtux I'm all ears. 03:37 mrtux what's the idea? 03:37 VanessaE vessels is slated to be included upstream 03:38 sdzen wirte the crafting recipes in just dont put the dependency 03:38 sdzen write* 03:38 VanessaE c55 seemed happy with it when last I checked 03:38 sdzen ive done it several times in my mods 03:38 mrtux oh nice 03:38 mrtux I'll wait for it to be in the main thing then i gues 03:38 mrtux *guess 03:39 VanessaE :( 03:39 VanessaE use it!!!!! :-) 03:39 mrtux i will later 03:39 mrtux i'm running out of time right now lol 03:42 VanessaE aw 03:44 VanessaE got it 03:44 VanessaE oops 03:44 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37399#p37399 03:44 mrtux feel free to review everything 03:47 mrtux i gtg 03:47 mrtux cya 03:47 mrtux bye 03:47 vicscandl < VanessaE> vessels is slated to be included upstream {{ WOOT! }} 03:49 VanessaE if c55 does as he implied. 03:49 vicscandl codefame is sexy 03:49 sdzen ten years later 03:50 sdzen c55: added this feature which is now obsolete 03:50 vicscandl i gotta say this; all in all, i'm happy with anything c55 throws at us... look at what so far has produced?! 03:51 vicscandl gripe all we want; we *do* have a game to play! 03:52 hmmmm i'm about to give up on this shit 03:53 hmmmm just too much crap 03:53 hmmmm kill me now 03:53 NakedFury the_game()? 03:53 hmmmm yeah 03:53 sdzen please keep going 03:53 hmmmm i don't get what's with all the random blocks 03:54 hmmmm there's no reason for the extra indentation, and it can trick people into thinking it's part of a control structure somewhere 03:54 sdzen where is this? 03:54 vicscandl hmmmm: you tried pushing the code thru a LINT process? (code beautifier) 03:54 hmmmm everywhere 03:54 hmmmm vicsacandl, no 03:55 hmmmm LINT won't fix this 03:55 hmmmm it's going to take a whole lot more than just running it through a program to make this 'beautiful' 03:55 hmmmm what i'm doing is NOT going to make the code beautiful, it'll make it managable. 03:56 hmmmm all of the big data structures and objects are local variables of the_game(), things that really ought to be globals 03:57 hmmmm i don't know if i should prepend g_ to all of them (i think not), again, he mixes it up 03:59 NakedFury well keep going please, any one capable of helping with the engine is welcome and encouraged. two thumbs up! 03:59 hmmmm really i wish i could nuke it all and start over 04:01 vicscandl hmmmm: sounds like once i get this lua scripting shit under wraps, i'll have to dive in there... 04:01 vicscandl hmmmm: my K&R ANSI C 1st edition is signed by both kerningham and ritchie.. :) 04:01 vicscandl i remember when C++ was a mere babe 04:03 vicscandl hell, i remember when you had to buy like 1 metric ton of books just to code a mac128 04:03 vicscandl stupid lisp/pascal bullshit 04:03 vicscandl i digress... back to mods.. 04:19 Keegan hello 04:21 hmmmm vicscandl, really? that would be great 04:21 hmmmm the_game() is certainly not the only 2000-line-function/mess 04:21 hmmmm I don't really understand what compelled celeron to write those things in the first place.. 04:22 hmmmm I also want to remove #if 0 blocks 04:23 hmmmm they're obviously obsolete, large pieces of code that make the source ugly - if you want them back, you can paste them in from an earlier revision 04:23 hmmmm is my take, anyway 04:25 vicscandl hmmmm: git/mercurial/svn {fuck CVS} are gold 04:32 Keegan how do you download irc for linux give me a link plz and thank you 04:33 Keegan gtg 04:35 vicscandl too bad you left: sudo apt-get irssi 04:35 NakedFury google is banned in his country 04:35 VanessaE "Keegan, it's time for bed!" -- Keegan's mother 04:35 vicscandl NakedFury: where is he coming from, china? 04:35 VanessaE irssi? byte your tongue. Pidgin is more his speed :-) 04:36 vicscandl VanessaE: agreed 04:36 VanessaE (for the rest of the world, Xchat is good enough :-) ) 04:36 NakedFury no idea but some of the stuff he asks for can be found with google 04:36 vicscandl i'm actually stopping all Keegan bashing as he needs help 04:36 NakedFury linux has that market place 04:36 NakedFury really easy to type irc in it 04:37 vicscandl someone find out what country he is in; he always shows up on the webclient 04:37 VanessaE he's from Michigan apparently 04:37 VanessaE and may be learning-disabled. 04:37 vicscandl wtf? 04:37 VanessaE yeah wtf indeed 04:37 vicscandl well the learning-disabled i've been told about... 04:38 vicscandl as much of an ircasshole that i am, i'm all for education 04:38 vicscandl the fact that he has not left; he is worth it, period. 04:38 VanessaE he is, as Abe and I would say, a Mich-ugena. (a crazy Michigan resident) 04:38 VanessaE (meshugena, "a crazy person") 04:38 vicscandl regardless of any physical issue he may have. 04:39 VanessaE you, an asshole? 04:39 VanessaE no. 04:39 VanessaE I know a few who make you look like the fucking king of wishful thinking :-) 04:39 * vicscandl has a close friend with cerebreral paulsy (sp?)... 04:39 VanessaE palsy. 04:39 vicscandl VanessaE: updated my avatar on the forum, you can see what i look like now... :) 04:40 VanessaE one guy I've known for years, used to be a total prick by his and everyone else's opinion. he's mellowed out considerably over the years. 04:40 VanessaE oh this oughtta be good.. 04:40 VanessaE ;) 04:40 vicscandl VanessaE: this was after shaving off a jan-aug beard... 04:41 vicscandl scottish part of me flows thru said beard 04:41 VanessaE jeez I can barely see you 04:41 vicscandl hold, pushing full size to imgur 04:42 VanessaE yeah I can see the Scottsman in you. 04:42 VanessaE ok 04:46 Basstard` I can see the scotch in you. 04:49 vicscandl Basstard`: i can see my scotch disapearing faster than expected... 04:50 Basstard` vicscandl: Blame the bottle, do not blame me! 04:50 * vicscandl blames his supplier for being out of bushmills 04:52 vicscandl Keegan_: !!! howdy! 04:53 vicscandl Keegan_: later! 04:53 vicscandl oh i can't repeat this shit 04:53 Basstard` vicscandl: Keep at it. 04:54 NakedFury keegan what linux version are you using? 04:54 Keegan_ 10.04 04:54 NakedFury ubuntu? 04:54 Basstard` Uh 04:54 Keegan_ yes 04:54 Basstard` Well, that answer was wrong. 04:54 NakedFury there is a program in it, a marketplace 04:54 NakedFury open it and in the search box type irc 04:55 vicscandl Basstard`: naw, i've pushed his buttons enough... we *are* a community, right? 04:55 VanessaE keegan: get xchat. 04:55 VanessaE damn it 04:55 NakedFury again 04:55 vicscandl the more here, the faster MC goes down... 04:55 NakedFury do it fast keegan 04:55 VanessaE keegan: get xchat. 04:55 Keegan_ ok 04:55 VanessaE use Synaptic to get it 04:55 Keegan_ don't know how to get chat 04:55 VanessaE or Ubuntu Software Center might have it 04:56 VanessaE it's already available, just go uuse your software manager/ 04:56 VanessaE it's free open source 04:56 Basstard` VanessaE: Free or open source? 04:56 VanessaE it's both 04:56 NakedFury both 04:56 VanessaE Free Libre Open Source Software 04:56 NakedFury free open source is enough 04:57 Basstard` It's not if you're using that crap called Windows. 04:57 Keegan_ ok got the software center open 04:57 VanessaE NakedFury: Free != free/librea 04:57 VanessaE -a 04:57 VanessaE keegan, search for 'Xchat" 04:57 Basstard` VanessaE: huh? 04:57 Keegan_ got it 04:57 VanessaE Basstard`: what? 04:58 Keegan_ I did I install it already 04:58 NakedFury xchat is a not paid for open source program 04:58 NakedFury happy?? 04:58 Keegan_ is there a ubuntu help channel? 04:58 VanessaE Basstard`: in the open source community, Free (with a capital "F") means unencumbered by stupid licenses, patents, etc. free (with a lower case "f") or libre means it costs nothing 04:59 Basstard` VanessaE: For no cost you use gratis. 04:59 VanessaE Keegan_: yes, #ubuntu 04:59 VanessaE Basstard`: not in this case 04:59 vicscandl Keegan_: hey, what is your country of origin? 04:59 Basstard` VanessaE: In any case. 04:59 VanessaE keegan is in Michigan. 05:00 Basstard` VanessaE: And I'm rather in the free software community. 05:01 Keegan_ I'm on my iPod touch and I install a app for irc 05:01 VanessaE Basstard`: I've never heard it put any other way among FOSS advocates. 05:03 vicscandl Keegan_: ok, where do you live *right now* 05:03 Basstard` VanessaE: Well now you have. 05:03 Keegan_ Michigan 05:04 VanessaE toldya. 05:04 vicscandl Keegan_: so you chat on an iPod, and you have some sort of other computer you play minetest with? 05:05 Keegan_ yes 05:05 Keegan_ I have two computers one for servers and one for normal playing 05:09 NakedFury for the love of god use one computer to chat here 05:09 NakedFury cant help with you disconnecting ever minute 05:11 vicscandl NakedFury: no worse than me the other day prior to my cable install.. :) 05:11 Keegan_ well my dumb iPod keeps disconnecting it self 05:12 hmmmm FREE as in FREEDOM 05:13 vicscandl free as in beer 05:13 VanessaE both :-) 05:13 VanessaE but fuck beer :-) 05:13 hmmmm I'd just like to interject for a moment 05:13 * VanessaE interjects.. BLAH!!!!!!! 05:13 hmmmm What you're referring to as 'Linux' is actually GNU/Linux, or as i've recently taken to calling it, GNU+Linux 05:13 VanessaE :-) 05:13 vicscandl hmmmm: forwhy? 05:14 VanessaE because he's being pedantic ;-) 05:14 vicscandl i mean i get it, but why. 05:14 Keegan_ might go to bed right now it's only 1:14am 05:14 * vicscandl laughs out loud... 05:14 hmmmm Because Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities, and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX 05:14 vicscandl VanessaE: you said pedantic 05:14 * Basstard` hugs hmmmm 05:14 hmmmm Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. 05:15 VanessaE heh 05:15 Keegan_ gtg good night 05:15 hmmmm Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and most of its users are not aware that it is basically teh GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. 05:15 hmmmm There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it's just a part of the system they use. 05:15 vicscandl hmmmm: you sir, are 100% correct. 05:15 vicscandl hmmmm: you win a prize! 05:15 vicscandl hahaha 05:16 VanessaE indeed, correct. But I think it's enough to say "Linux" :-) 05:16 Basstard` VanessaE: No. 05:16 vicscandl http://wordpirates.com/ 05:16 hmmmm Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resoucres to the other programs you run. 05:16 Keegan_ gtg good night y'all 05:16 vicscandl night keeg 05:16 hmmmm The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself, it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. 05:16 Keegan_ have fun on here 05:16 hmmmm Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU, with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. 05:17 hmmmm All the so called 'Linux' distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. 05:17 Basstard` Or with any other kernel. 05:17 vicscandl i call drunk-rant 05:18 vicscandl self-included 05:18 hmmmm i am quite the stallman, aren't i 05:20 vicscandl richard? ha! nice 05:20 VanessaE I was about to say, you channeling RMS or something? :-) 05:21 Bad_Command what people less commonly know is that those android phones are all linux phones 05:21 * vicscandl has your rms worm hanging... 05:21 Basstard` And thus the homepage of Minetest should change its wording. 05:22 vicscandl fuck semantics. code you hookers! 05:30 * vicscandl wishes minetesters goodnight... 05:44 keegn1 hello 06:23 Jeija hi sfan5 06:23 sfan5 hi 06:24 Jeija seit 1/2 stunde bis 1 stunde oder so 06:24 Jeija stehen wir nerds immer so früh auf? 06:24 Jeija srry 06:48 Basstard` Duke Nukem vs Batman. Who wins? 06:50 Basstard` Neither. Chuck Norris wins. 07:19 * VanessaE is back 07:19 VanessaE beautiful meteors 07:19 VanessaE and for the first time in my life, I could see the Milky Way :-) 07:23 hmmmm no, duke nukem 07:23 hmmmm he kicks ass and chews bubble gum 07:32 tripod i see the milky way everything VanessaE :D 07:48 VanessaE hmmmm: yeah but last I heard, he was all out of bubble gum. 09:55 PilzAdam Hello! 09:55 VanessaE morning PilzAdam. 09:57 jin_xi morning adam 09:58 VanessaE morning jin. 10:02 jin_xi morning vanessa and all around! 10:08 RealBadAngel hi 10:09 VanessaE morning RBA 10:09 jin_xi hi rba 10:27 VanessaE jin_xi: so what's new? :-) 10:27 * VanessaE tries to start some semblence of conversation 10:31 jin_xi not much 10:31 jin_xi have not been modding lately 10:32 VanessaE nothing to do? 10:32 jin_xi been thinking about how to wikify this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=475 10:34 VanessaE dunno 10:35 VanessaE a good tutorial needs a LOT of info 10:37 thexyz there should be documentation, not tutorials 10:37 thexyz i suggest copying this page/structure http://minetest.ru/wiki/script_api 10:38 VanessaE oh sure, add Cyrillic to the prerequisites ;-) 10:38 VanessaE the format looks good, but there's one hangup 10:38 thexyz i thought everybody now uses fonts with unicode support 10:38 VanessaE lately users seem to be forgetting how to scroll a page :-/ 10:39 thexyz users != mod developers 10:39 VanessaE no, 10:39 thexyz i don't know what to say then 10:39 VanessaE but I'm sure you've noticed that some mod devs are little better than regular users 10:39 thexyz "forgetting how to scroll a page" — lol americans r so stupd? 10:40 VanessaE heh, I wouldn't go *that* far, but I have seen some pretty idiotic people out there. As soon as they sit down in front of a computer, all common sense goes out the window. 10:41 VanessaE (also, my machine has unicode support/fonts, hence why I recognized the language :-) ) 10:43 VanessaE remember, these are architects, theoretical physiscists, etc in the daytime, but "hurr durr I don't know what it means to move a folder" when they get home 10:43 jin_xi i think minetest will be "the way to lua" and even writing scripts for many 10:43 VanessaE and some of them want to learn to program :-) 10:43 VanessaE jin_xi: possibly - it is my first exposure to the language 10:43 jin_xi both tutorials and documentation is needed 10:51 VanessaE hey TLP 10:51 thexyz documentation is more important 10:52 VanessaE documentation is important - as long as there are human-readable examples therein 10:52 thexyz ANY documentation is important when there is no documentation 10:53 thexyz for example, what the fuck is "weight" property in entity definition table? 10:53 VanessaE I disagree somewhat 10:53 VanessaE hey cornernote 10:53 thexyz or "hp_max"? where is that used? 10:53 VanessaE for example, is it truly better to have a crappy, hard-to-read document than none at all? I mean, why expose a feature if you don't tell users how to actually *use* it 10:54 VanessaE I can't count the number of man pages I've read over the years that fall into that category 10:54 jin_xi well, i think if there was a wiki such things could be put up there to document the lack of documentations 10:55 VanessaE thexyz: regarding the API, there is a reason I refer to it as negatively as I do :-)( 10:55 thexyz VanessaE: yes, that's better than having no documentation at all 10:55 thexyz because that documentation can at least be "upgraded" to normal one 10:55 jin_xi i think if we wikified that document it would be a good start 10:55 thexyz right 10:55 cornernote if there was a community wiki, im sure the community would contribute to the api with examples 10:56 VanessaE I've read through the damn thing enough times to figure that half it was written while c55 was drunk, stoned, or exhausted ;-) 10:56 cornernote look at what php.net do in their function docs 10:56 thexyz but even that text file misses many definitions 10:56 thexyz oh, not that again 10:56 VanessaE huh? 10:56 thexyz cornernote: most parts of user's code on php.net is 146% bullshit 10:57 VanessaE what about the 17.53%? 10:57 VanessaE ;) 10:57 cornernote you're being very general 10:57 cornernote you can see its user submitted code 10:57 cornernote and you can try it 10:57 cornernote if it works, great, problem solved 10:58 cornernote if it doesnt work then you lost 20 seconds of your life reading an example 10:58 cornernote personally i havent seen much broken code in the user examples 10:58 cornernote and its most recent 1st, so other users generally sumbit an improvement 11:00 cornernote even if its the crappest code in the world... to someone who has never coded minetest/lua and they want to have a play, a crappy example can be better than nothing 11:00 cornernote and maybe, just maybe, there may be some good user submited code examples 11:00 cornernote im sure not everyone here sux at coding =) 11:01 VanessaE cornernote makes a good point, but there's something missing there: The crappy example is only useful as long as the coder doesn't try to stuff too many concepts into one example 11:01 thexyz someone who has never code better learn to code by some smart book instead of by user-submitted crappy examples 11:01 cornernote if there is no examples, then they wont learn 11:01 VanessaE like introducing functions by talking about classes and callbacks and blah blah 11:01 cornernote i dont mean leaning to program 11:01 cornernote i mean learning to use the api 11:01 VanessaE nor do I 11:02 VanessaE I learned to program in BASIC back in the 80's. When I first started fiddling around with modern languages, it was like I had never opened a programming book in my life. 11:02 thexyz right 11:02 VanessaE everything I knew up to that point, save for the actual logic skills, was useless 11:03 VanessaE so while I could code, I couldn't do so in the language in question. That's where good examples came in handy 11:03 VanessaE and learning an API is just as much an issue as learning a language, since the API basically *is* a language within one 11:13 jin_xi sup - was vacuuming my apt... 11:17 VanessaE I'd vacuum more often but I'm just too lazy :-) 11:21 jin_xi ok, mod api is currently just linked in the dev wiki 11:26 RealBadAngel ok, update with power cables is online 11:26 RealBadAngel got a feelin it is buggy as hell ;) 11:27 RealBadAngel but any1 can now see hot it will be working 11:27 RealBadAngel *how 11:28 jin_xi sry for stupid question, where is it at? 11:28 RealBadAngel Technic 11:29 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2538 11:30 RealBadAngel textures will change, sdzen is makin low res ones 11:32 jin_xi looks very nice 12:27 OldCoder 5:25am vicscandl test back 12:48 * VanessaE sends one more pulse to sfan5|OFF's clock line and then cuts the trace. 12:59 OldCoder Ha 13:02 JamieWill Hi 13:03 VanessaE hi 13:22 saschaheylik hi 13:23 Calinou hi 13:35 keegan hey 13:36 VanessaE oh FINALLY my backup is finished 13:36 VanessaE 4 hours later :-S 13:36 VanessaE good morning keegan 13:39 RealBadAngel hi keegan 13:40 keegan hello 13:41 keegan still getting use to ubuntu 13:41 VanessaE keegan: give it time 13:41 Calinou lol, keegan uses noobuntu 13:41 Calinou did he uninstall windows? O_o 13:41 VanessaE once you grow accustomed to how it works, you will find it hard to understand how you got by with windows 13:42 keegan my server laptop never had win7 it was a trail so i unistall win 7 and installed ubuntu 13:42 Calinou -_- waste of money 13:42 Calinou I'm keeping windows on this computer because of the windows tax; if I was able to buy this computer without OS I'd surely do it 13:42 keegan it came withy the laptop 13:42 Calinou YES, it is a waste of money 13:43 Calinou if you plan on installing linux I suggest you buy a computer without any OS; these are hard to find but these do exist 13:43 VanessaE actually they're quite easy to find if you don't waste money on name-brand machines 13:43 VanessaE this box was built from parts ordered (as a kit) from PortaTech 13:44 Calinou depends on countries 13:44 Calinou I still facepalm at 99% of computers being sold with windows. linux is just so much better. :( 13:44 RealBadAngel branded PCs are harder to upgrade 13:44 RealBadAngel better make pc from parts 13:44 Calinou and prevent you from using multiboot 13:44 Calinou thanks to UEFI 13:44 Calinou RealBadAngel, it is actually MORE expensive 13:45 RealBadAngel not here 13:45 Calinou sellers of computers without OS and computer parts make money off linux users 13:45 iqualfragile pilzadam or someone else having experience with the minetestmapper.py : where do i get a colors.txt from? 13:45 Calinou these are usually 100 euros more expensive than the computer with windows 13:45 RealBadAngel i take parts i need and build it from scratch 13:45 Calinou iqualfragile, in the git repo... 13:45 VanessaE iqualfragile: it should be in the same directory where you found minetestmapper.py 13:45 iqualfragile im gone search for the git-repo 13:46 iqualfragile it was not distributed with pilzadams map-mod 13:46 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest 13:47 iqualfragile ah, there it is 13:47 iqualfragile im sorry, didnt find it on my own 13:51 VanessaE hey mauvebic. 13:51 Calinou hi 13:52 Calinou dedicated to you: http://imgur.com/a/9XR0c 13:52 Calinou mauvebic, ^ 13:53 mauvebic lol they just added sorry lol 13:57 thexyz wtf is that? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2768 13:59 mauvebic i asked celeron to make me a moderator so i could move my own threads 13:59 mauvebic your new doors and mine are awfully similar 13:59 mauvebic and the timing couldn't be more identical 13:59 mauvebic celeron responded by calling me an ass and suggesting i ripped you off 14:01 mauvebic idc if people copy my shit or not, but when i see an identical mod come out and im still waiting for a topic move... 14:03 thexyz wat? you think i copied your doors? 14:03 mauvebic okay, look at your description, and mine, what am i supposed to think? 14:04 mauvebic 2 nodes, correct textures, facedir rotating, its all the same 14:04 mauvebic released within 6 hours of eachother 14:04 RealBadAngel and the code? 14:04 mauvebic were either telepathic, or someone was copied 14:04 thexyz have you tried comparing the code? 14:05 thexyz i haven't even downloaded your mod 14:05 thexyz just doing it now.. 14:06 mauvebic code comparing doesnt really tell you anything, anyone can obfuscate code 14:06 RealBadAngel oh it does 14:06 thexyz lol 14:07 mauvebic any decent coder can look at code and reproduce it differently. What struck me was the near identical descriptions, and the timing 14:07 RealBadAngel this way all car proucers should spend all the time in courts 14:08 RealBadAngel not tellin about toilet paper producers :) 14:08 thexyz still, mauvebic, have you tried looking at the code? 14:08 thexyz just answer "yes/no" 14:08 mauvebic yes 14:08 thexyz still see no difference? 14:09 mauvebic well it looks like my door + calinous' double door put together 14:09 thexyz really? 14:09 mauvebic but if you say you wrote it from scratch fine, ill accept that 14:10 thexyz i can also suggest you looking at this file https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods/blob/master/xdoors/init.lua 14:10 thexyz which is what xdoors2 based on 14:11 mauvebic the number of people who accuse me publicly and privately of stealing shit, its making me paranoid 14:11 mauvebic so when i see mods that look alike... i get protective 14:13 mauvebic wtv, ill remove the post 14:13 mauvebic i think im more worked up about celerons' response at this point 14:13 thexyz where can i find your conversation about this? 14:14 mauvebic my email inbox lol 14:14 mauvebic here 14:14 mauvebic Nodebox-implemented doors have existed for a much longer time than you 14:14 mauvebic think. thexyz originally made them almost immediately when the github 14:14 mauvebic version supported nodeboxes. 14:14 mauvebic I do not grant moderator status to bad people. 14:14 mauvebic Hopefully you haven't yet made yourself into an asshole in the eyes of 14:15 mauvebic others by saying otherwise. 14:15 mauvebic / celeron55 14:16 RealBadAngel thats the problem coding such ordinary things 14:16 RealBadAngel no wander many ppl did the same 14:17 mauvebic its just the timing 14:17 mauvebic had they been at least a day apart i wouldnt have been suspicious 14:17 RealBadAngel i had same with madchicken13 14:17 mauvebic like i said, if he wrote from scratch, he wrote it from scratch, i cant offer any proof otherwise 14:18 RealBadAngel i started to make my chests, talked to him, showed him my mod at the very early stage 14:18 RealBadAngel next day he popped up with bigchests mod 14:18 mauvebic thats happenning alot now 14:18 RealBadAngel but this was obvious, dont wanna judge this situation 14:19 RealBadAngel i mean the doors 14:19 RealBadAngel havent seen the code even 14:19 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2768 14:19 Calinou ^ delete topic? 14:19 Calinou or lock for the lols? :p 14:19 RealBadAngel lol 14:19 mauvebic delete, no use re-debating it there 14:20 mauvebic nor do i need to class with celeron once more today 14:20 RealBadAngel mauvebic: pick ur niche, complex one are not just to copy 14:20 RealBadAngel and there will be no debates who made uckin door lol 14:20 mauvebic *clash lol 14:21 mauvebic idc *who* made the door, i just wanted everything ready for releases to be there lol 14:22 mauvebic idc what gets included in default either, considering i dont play w/ default lol 14:22 RealBadAngel im from the very begining went for creation of very complex one mod 14:23 RealBadAngel still learnin lua 14:23 RealBadAngel but thanks to it, i dont think i will encounter such issues like who made door 1st 14:23 mauvebic people like DD and and segfault basically copy/pasting entire mods is making people paranoid lol 14:25 mauvebic this shit never happenned even 3 months ago lol 14:26 mauvebic but for a while now CPU usage has been shooting up, and copycat mods along with it lol 14:26 RealBadAngel more folks, more shit can happen 14:27 RealBadAngel btw 14:27 RealBadAngel maybe you will know 14:27 RealBadAngel can anythin lua be eecuted while not ingame, just in main menu? 14:27 RealBadAngel without need to change the source 14:28 RealBadAngel wanted to add music theme for main menu 14:28 mauvebic you need to recompile 14:29 RealBadAngel ive managed to add menu background 14:29 RealBadAngel addin a piece of music could be nice 14:30 mauvebic yeah but you wont be able to convince people to use a fork just for menu music :S 14:30 mauvebic and people are likely to all have different ideas about what music 14:30 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/menu.png 14:31 RealBadAngel thats why im lookin for a vanilla solution 14:33 mauvebic you could try suggesting to celeron, but dont forget the kid gloves lol 14:35 iqualfragile im having another problem, you might be able to help me resolve it: im using the minetoon-texturepack on my server. 14:35 mauvebic whats wrong w/ it? 14:36 * vicscandl removes the sand from his eyes... 14:36 vicscandl sleep is so overrated 14:36 iqualfragile its skaled 250x250. the moreores- ores on the other hand are scaled 30x30 or something like that, alot smaller 14:36 RealBadAngel my TP provides hires textures for more ores 14:37 iqualfragile when im looking at a moreores tin-block i can see the minetoons stonetexture plus the tiny litle texture for tin in the upper left corner 14:37 iqualfragile wich is nearly invisble 14:37 RealBadAngel http://www.realbadangel.pl/HavenTP/screenshot6.png 14:37 iqualfragile so it does not scale the texture up 14:38 RealBadAngel textures have to be made 14:38 RealBadAngel its not just upscalin them 14:39 RealBadAngel from 16x16 pixels you will not make good lookin hires texture 14:39 mauvebic thats kinda weird behaviour yeah lol 14:40 RealBadAngel seen that when creatin my own pack 14:40 iqualfragile yeah, i know, but the moreores-textures are composed of the default_stone.png and the moreores_mineral_xxx.png 14:40 RealBadAngel but theyre 16x16 14:41 mauvebic yeah one image is superimposed on the other 14:41 iqualfragile yep 14:41 mauvebic you need to replace both 14:41 iqualfragile and its not scaled up 14:41 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=19702 14:41 RealBadAngel so are occupyin just the corner 14:41 iqualfragile right 14:41 * VanessaE plugs her own texture pack just for good measure ;-) 14:41 RealBadAngel seen mine ores? 14:41 VanessaE just now, yes 14:41 mauvebic if youre super-imposing a 16px texture on a 200px, its going to be in the corner yeah 14:41 iqualfragile it should be scaled up instead 14:42 RealBadAngel same sized 14:42 VanessaE iqualfragile: in theory yeah but in practice the game doesn't do that 14:42 iqualfragile i have looked throught many of the texturepacks but i liked the style of minetoon so im gone use that 14:43 iqualfragile others look nice, too, but i want to have an uniqe style wich is different from minecraft 14:43 RealBadAngel mine is semi-realistic, vanessas i think hiper realistic ;) 14:43 iqualfragile im just gona modify the ore-texture 14:43 RealBadAngel so 14:44 RealBadAngel take stone texture 14:44 VanessaE RealBadAngel: btw, you use the same coal lump I did :-) 14:44 RealBadAngel and ore 14:44 RealBadAngel upscale each ore to the same size as stone 14:44 VanessaE (except I made that particular one into the inventory "lump" image, whereas you used it for a mineral ore) 14:44 RealBadAngel and blend them together 14:44 PilzAdam Hello again! 14:44 VanessaE hey PilzAdam 14:44 RealBadAngel hi 14:45 PilzAdam any news? 14:45 RealBadAngel check my mod 14:45 RealBadAngel its on 14:45 PilzAdam will do 14:46 Cristiano-CM Tem alguma PPA no Ubuntu para a versão 0.4.1? 14:46 RealBadAngel you can blend textures easily using Gimp 14:46 RealBadAngel its best tool imho for makin textures 14:47 RealBadAngel kinda hard to get used to 14:48 RealBadAngel but powerfull, and when u get used to it, really easy to use 14:48 mauvebic newer versions you can save project files for gimp (to reverse changes and such) 14:49 RealBadAngel for example i do keep object ie machines 14:49 RealBadAngel in one project 14:49 RealBadAngel as layers 14:49 RealBadAngel all the sides and combinations 14:50 RealBadAngel and export needed side toggling visibility of the layers 14:50 RealBadAngel so for example all the furnaces are just one project 14:51 VanessaE Cristiano-CM: please speak engli-- 14:51 VanessaE --sh. 14:51 RealBadAngel too late ;) 15:00 mauvebic "speak english" you know how many times i have to say that, in my own english speaking country lol 15:00 mauvebic the words people make up these days lol 15:01 vicscandl mauvebic: there is a reason we call it "spanglish" here in southern california 15:01 VanessaE vicscandl: spanish-speaking folks also call it spanglish :-) 15:01 vicscandl mauvebic: at least it's half in english, right? 15:01 * VanessaE fades 15:02 mauvebic lol well i also speak french so while i understand some spanish, i cant speak or write it 15:03 vicscandl i can speak in broken spanish, but could not read or write it. 15:03 vicscandl english, well.. its broken to begin with, but 100% fluent there.. :) 15:04 mauvebic worse is quebecois, its not even french anymore 15:04 mauvebic i learned french in an english province, when we moved here we were like "wtf?" lol 15:04 vicscandl meh... "live love live" 15:05 * VanessaE fades some more 15:06 vicscandl VanessaE: heading to sleepville? 15:06 VanessaE yeah 15:06 * VanessaE fades more - Alpha channel now at 10% 15:06 vicscandl see ya on the other side if i miss you, off/on - making food 15:07 * vicscandl pulverizes the remainder of VanessaE's alpha channel for faster sleep uptake... 15:07 * VanessaE vanishes 15:08 VanessaE [echo from the void] Night all, or something. I need sleep :-) [/echo] 15:08 mauvebic nighty night 15:11 mauvebic drought = shitty weed 15:12 mauvebic you get more high off the weed mod than the real thing lol 15:14 iqualfragile so i have extacted the iron-texture and recoloured it 15:15 vicscandl mauvebic: bummers... here in socal, weed is sold next to McD's 15:15 vicscandl in a shop 15:15 vicscandl effing 7-11 style and things.... 15:15 mauvebic dont you need like a medical thing or something to get it? 15:16 * vicscandl remembes when he had to walk 10 miles for pot, in the rain, uphill both ways... 15:16 mauvebic i used to grow it myself when i was younger lol 15:16 vicscandl mauvebic: yes, that is also such a "revolving door" the "licencing facility" is typically next door to the dispensary. 15:17 Calinou seems legit 15:17 vicscandl mine was $65 15:17 Calinou take that discussion to #freenode 15:17 Calinou thank you 15:17 mauvebic jesus christ 15:17 vicscandl Calinou: sorry 15:17 Calinou drugs are bad mkay? 15:17 vicscandl mkay 15:17 Calinou :) 15:17 vicscandl ((not that i agree, but for the sake of MT, mkay)) 15:18 mauvebic isnt weed legal in europe? ill stop after that im just curious lol 15:18 mauvebic ah amsterdam 15:18 mauvebic ok im done lol 15:19 Calinou it isn't 15:19 Calinou at all 15:19 mauvebic well i know tourists cant go to amsterdam anymore for those purposes 15:19 mauvebic but i thought it was legal for locals there 15:20 iqualfragile calinou: i have created some textures for moreores, derived from the minetoon-texturepack. do you want du give them to the creator of minetoon? 15:21 vicscandl hush-it mauve, yer gonna get a fish or something soon.. :) 15:21 * Calinou facepalms 15:21 vicscandl iqualfragile: i would like to obtain a lookie... 15:21 Calinou textures in a mod must be 16x16 whenever possible 15:21 Calinou because it's the convention - default texture size is 16x16, and so is the atlas size 15:22 mauvebic alot of people are disabling the atlas though :-/ 15:22 iqualfragile yeah, i know, i just wanted you to give the textures to the texturepackcreator 15:22 mauvebic because of having tons of nodes 15:22 Calinou I disabled it... it causes glitches sometimes 15:22 Calinou iqualfragile, there's already moreores textures in minetoon 15:22 mauvebic i re-enabled the atlas and it got rid of some lag, but very marginally 15:23 Calinou if you want to send him textures, do it yourself, anyway 15:23 iqualfragile there is? since when? 15:24 mauvebic iqualfragile to what you are referring? 15:24 iqualfragile to calinou, he said there would be moreores texures in minetoon 15:24 Calinou there are, well... IIRC 15:25 Calinou I never used minetoon :P 15:25 mauvebic 16p textures giveme headaches after an hour lol 15:25 Calinou minetoon is 512x 15:26 RealBadAngel hard to make 16 15:26 RealBadAngel im makin default ones 32 15:27 vicscandl Calinou: outside of speed reasons, why the hard limitation on such tiny textures? 15:28 RealBadAngel in fact i do make 128x from the start 15:28 RealBadAngel scaling them down to 32x is ok 15:28 NekoGloop Hm? 15:28 mauvebic resolution doesnt affect speed that much, is really the atlas thats designed for 16p i think 15:28 RealBadAngel 16x is totally fucked up 15:28 vicscandl (( minetoon eats the shit out of my lappy GPU )) 15:28 RealBadAngel i play with 128x 15:28 RealBadAngel and all the possible mods 15:29 vicscandl atlas == minetestmapper.py ???? 15:29 RealBadAngel 60 all the time 15:29 mauvebic maybe not the texture map, what mods you running, how many ABMs, etc., these all add up 15:29 mauvebic *texture pack 15:29 RealBadAngel had atlas error before 15:29 RealBadAngel with rc1 its gone somehow 15:30 RealBadAngel c55 raised limits? 15:30 mauvebic the furnace and fire mods have ABMs going off at every interval, try disabling those first 15:30 mauvebic (or cranking them up) 15:30 iqualfragile minetoon is 250 and no, there are no moreores-textures in it 15:30 Calinou minetoon is 512x not 256x 15:30 NekoGloop c55 removed limits 15:30 Calinou vicscandl, it's the texture atlas decision 15:30 Calinou HD textures will disable the atlas anyway 15:31 NekoGloop how to craft locked sign? 15:31 RealBadAngel ah 15:31 vicscandl mauvebic: every interval for furnace and fire? damn, missed that one 15:31 RealBadAngel seen funny error with light 15:31 RealBadAngel 16x texture was not properly lighten 15:32 NekoGloop lava can shoot lighting to hell 15:32 RealBadAngel and caused black blocks all aroun 15:32 mauvebic i like the fire mod, but its more a tool for griefers and crashing your servers with intervals so low 15:32 iqualfragile calinou: are we talking about the same texturepack? because i just looked at the texures, its clearly 250x250 not 256x256 or 512x512 15:32 RealBadAngel and with 128x everythin was ok 15:32 keegan anyone have xchat? 15:32 mauvebic xchat here 15:32 vicscandl iqualfragile: yea, i just did too 15:32 keegan is there a private chat 15:32 Calinou iqualfragile, O_o 15:32 keegan like pm 15:32 mauvebic and i have xxxchat, should the need arise ;-) LOL 15:33 Calinou textures are supposed to be powers of two normally 15:33 RealBadAngel type /querry nick 15:33 Calinou xchat FTW 15:33 Calinou query not querry 15:33 RealBadAngel its itc command 15:33 mauvebic right click name and 'open dialog window' 15:33 iqualfragile i know, i know, it somehow disturbed me, too 15:33 RealBadAngel xchat is aother irc client just 15:33 keegan ok thanks 15:33 vicscandl keegan: yes, its /msg irc-nick your message here 15:34 keegan is there more minetest channels? 15:34 mauvebic minetest-dev 15:34 NekoGloop #minetest-dev and #minetest-delta 15:34 vicscandl keegan: i would advise you so not to go there keegan. 15:34 mauvebic they always party hard there :p 15:34 keegan why no 15:34 keegan not 15:35 NekoGloop and isnt there a modding channel, but is kinda outruled by this one? 15:35 mauvebic only masochists go to -dev lol 15:35 vicscandl keegan: i'll just say this. i've warned you. 15:35 keegan what do they do there? 15:36 vicscandl keegan: shit with unicorn's and elven magic man! 15:36 mauvebic shoot down every idea 15:36 NekoGloop They kill you and eat your corpse. 15:36 vicscandl ie: what mauvebic said. 15:36 mauvebic always in the nicest possible terms (sarcasm) lol 15:36 vicscandl mauvebic: but everything is better with a unicorn! 15:37 Calinou you can go to #minetest-dev, but avoid talking there ;) 15:37 mauvebic yeah well someone's got the unicorns' horn stuck up their ... lol 15:37 RealBadAngel rip off the head, shit into neck. i dont know its nice 15:38 * NekoGloop types /spawn unicorn 9999 15:38 keegan what does ping do? 15:38 mauvebic ping destroys your c/ drive 15:38 RealBadAngel causes pong :P 15:38 vicscandl keegan: its the yang of pong. 15:38 mrtux hi 15:38 mauvebic all these intelligent responses lol 15:38 mauvebic ping is like internet sonar 15:39 vicscandl and none of them are correct (until yours) 15:39 NekoGloop C:\* 15:39 RealBadAngel ping response time shows you how far youre from pinged host 15:39 Calinou lol 15:39 Calinou not how far 15:39 RealBadAngel its a delay 15:39 Calinou the time it takes to answer 15:39 RealBadAngel in miliseconds 15:40 NekoGloop if you dont send a response for 200 or so seconds, you are disconnected 15:40 RealBadAngel yeah, go on mars orbit 15:40 RealBadAngel and ping earth 15:40 mrtux can someone review my new mod? 15:40 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37399 15:40 vicscandl RealBadAngel: 20m ping time and shit 15:40 keegan i dont get it still 15:40 RealBadAngel light is distance too 15:41 vicscandl at light speed, time becomes the distance 15:41 mauvebic lightyears 15:41 NekoGloop mrtux: NEVER use water_source 15:41 NekoGloop EVER 15:41 mrtux ah ok 15:41 mauvebic y not water source? 15:41 NekoGloop Without creative mode or /give, you cant get it 15:41 mrtux should i use water buckets? 15:41 RealBadAngel 20ms is also a distance 15:41 mauvebic true 15:41 vicscandl [C:\] 15:41 NekoGloop use bucket:bucket_water 15:41 mauvebic but if buckets are disable what to do? 15:42 NekoGloop turn on buckets :P 15:42 mrtux that would be wasting buckets 15:42 RealBadAngel 300ms i know its another continent 15:42 NekoGloop Use this line in the recipe: 15:42 mauvebic copy buckets, make you scoop up the water to have juice? 15:42 NekoGloop craft* 15:42 JamieWill yeah MRTUX? 15:42 RealBadAngel with a few minutes i would know it was mars 15:43 keegan who knows how to use ubuntu 15:43 RealBadAngel with a mouse and keyboard? 15:43 mauvebic ubuntu? 15:43 NekoGloop replacements : {"bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:empty_bucket"} 15:43 mrtux i know how to use ubuntu 15:43 NekoGloop I think 15:43 keegan yes 15:43 Calinou lol 15:43 vicscandl keegan: sorry, i use freeBSD. 15:43 mrtux neko what does it do 15:43 keegan why cant i type in terminal 15:43 mauvebic i know how to swear at ubuntu, thats about all 15:43 Calinou vicscandl, LOL 15:43 Calinou hi bsd fanboy: 15:44 Calinou nothing is compatible yet you like it 15:44 Calinou keegan, huh? 15:44 Calinou click on it first *facepalm* 15:44 Calinou mauvebic, harshlinux sucks too. 15:44 Calinou debian FTW 15:44 NekoGloop Use FreeBULLSHI 15:44 vicscandl Calinou: i still run my sql servers on thined out freeBSD boxen 15:44 NekoGloop :3 15:44 * Calinou started a distor war 15:44 mauvebic arch works fine for me :p 15:44 Calinou distro* 15:44 keegan at first i can type a line and pree enter and it quit tying 15:44 Calinou arch is complicated for no benefit 15:44 mrtux >harshlinux 15:44 Calinou keegan, -_- you need to type a valid command 15:44 RealBadAngel ubuntu was kinda cool 15:44 mauvebic archbang less so 15:44 Calinou ubuntu was cool prior to 11.10 15:44 mrtux yeah 15:44 iqualfragile uh: how can i remove all -lets say- fireflower- nodes? 15:44 RealBadAngel but this new HUD thing is just not retro 15:45 Calinou but the ubuntu devs went "AMG UNITY" 15:45 mauvebic ubuntu was cool before pulseaudio and gnome 3 and all that crap lol 15:45 keegan Calinou whats a valid command 15:45 mrtux I wanted to install ubuntu at the time of 10.10 15:45 Calinou and it's unstable 15:45 vicscandl Calinou: run fluxbuntu or something 15:45 Calinou I find debian testing/unstable more stable than ubuntu/mint 15:45 RealBadAngel uck the unity 15:45 Calinou PLUS, it's rolling release. 15:45 NekoGloop USE F*CKING WINDOWS 15:45 Calinou lol 15:45 mrtux rolling release is nice 15:45 keegan why 15:45 Calinou only because of the drivers :P 15:45 RealBadAngel they went for shiny uckin stuff 15:45 mrtux I run a server on windows keegan 15:45 Calinou O_______o 15:45 mauvebic anyone else have problems updating glibc? 15:46 iqualfragile fuck windows! 15:46 RealBadAngel hardcore doesnt need such stuff 15:46 mrtux Do you have lots of software on your server? 15:46 keegan mrtux i have wine(cmd) to run it 15:46 keegan no 15:46 keegan just got it yesterday 15:46 mauvebic i dont know if its out on the other distros, but itbroke alot of shit lol 15:46 vicscandl ok Calinou, you ever roll up a gentoo install? 15:46 mrtux are you running gnu/linux? 15:46 Calinou gentoo sucks 15:46 keegan linux i think 15:46 mauvebic fedora sucks too 15:46 Calinou mrtux, highfive for gnu/linux 15:46 Calinou fedora is for furries 15:46 mauvebic furries? lol 15:46 Calinou #quotelevel:500 15:46 vicscandl Calinou: hahahahaah furries.... 15:46 mrtux lol thanks Calinou 15:47 NekoGloop Meow? 15:47 RealBadAngel windows sucks even more than any linux disro 15:47 Calinou trololol 15:47 RealBadAngel so shut up :) 15:47 vicscandl moof goes the dogcow! 15:47 mrtux stallman would murder me if i said open source or linux again... 15:47 Calinou at least winblows doesn't have a confusing DE like noobuntu and mac os 15:47 mauvebic nvidia doesnt work well on debian anything 15:47 Calinou the only thing superior to noobuntu 15:47 mauvebic though it works fine on archbang 15:47 Calinou mauvebic, it does 15:47 mauvebic oh nooo 15:47 Calinou you CAN install proprietary drivers 15:47 keegan how do you make ubuntu fster 15:47 Calinou and the nouveau drivers work quite well for me 15:47 mrtux get a better pc keegan 15:48 mrtux ubuntu is bloated as shit 15:48 Calinou keegan, disable desktop effects (switch to unity 2D or gnome 3 without effects) 15:48 Calinou ^ 15:48 vicscandl mrtux: hahhahaha 15:48 RealBadAngel i had hard time to install propertiary drivers on 12.04 15:48 mrtux what vicscand1 15:48 Calinou nouveau runs minetest at 20-40FPS for me, in a VM 15:48 Calinou PWNT 15:48 mrtux also get more swap 15:48 mauvebic nouveau couldn't play bluray with my card, and nvidia was laggy on debian :-/ for both minetest and vlc 15:48 Calinou lol no 15:48 vicscandl mrtux: "get a better pc keegan" 15:48 mrtux lol 15:48 Calinou high five FSF member 15:48 Calinou must be marktraceur in disguise... j/k 15:48 keegan this is my server laptop 15:49 mauvebic FPS 58-60 here lol 15:49 RealBadAngel http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/17/3092829/linus-torvalds-fuck-you-nvidia 15:49 Calinou FPS 60 here (capped at 60) 15:49 Calinou RealBadAngel, old news 15:49 mauvebic while watching movies lol 15:49 vicscandl keegan: hahahahah you said "server laptop" thats funny shit guy 15:49 mrtux Ubuntu 10.10 requres at least 512MB of ram, I'm assuming 12.04 requries a gigabyte of it 15:49 keegan why 15:49 mrtux since ubuntu is a shitpile 15:49 mauvebic the same linux ppl have been knocking ATI for years 15:50 RealBadAngel more unnecesary stuff, huds 15:50 RealBadAngel more ram needed 15:50 mauvebic they cant admit their kernels change too much for proprietary drivers to adapt 15:50 keegan i have 2gb of ram 15:50 Calinou AMD sucks anyway :p 15:50 Calinou free drivers are insanely slow, proprietary ones do not work 15:50 mauvebic devs loove to add features but they rarely patch or update after 15:50 mrtux Keegan, do debian 15:51 Calinou ^ minecraft-style updates basically :P 15:51 mrtux It's MEANT for servers 15:51 Calinou can also be used on client computers of course :p 15:51 mauvebic thats the one thing i hate about arch: the update process lol 15:51 Calinou debian isn't hard to use, if you can RTFM 15:51 keegan where do i get that 15:51 mauvebic ive given them so much shit about it lol 15:51 mrtux also if you are running minetest on wine, just get the native gnu/linux build 15:51 Calinou lol, wine 15:51 mrtux wine is kinda slow 15:51 Calinou very 15:51 mauvebic wine was okay to play cities XL 2012 15:51 OldCoder mrtux, Calinou depends 15:52 mauvebic sck4 and sim societies too 15:52 mrtux keegan are you comfortable with the command line? 15:52 OldCoder FWIW bleeding-edge Wine has some improvements 15:52 mrtux It's not exactly like Winblows. 15:52 mauvebic railroad tycoon, bus driver, 18 wheels of steel, all flawless play for me 15:52 keegan what kind of command line 15:52 mrtux don't use debain 15:53 Calinou Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! 15:53 mrtux just stick with crapbuntu 15:53 mauvebic if you need pure windows you can always load a VM 15:53 Calinou mrtux, SLAPPED 15:53 mauvebic or try running it in reactOS 15:53 mrtux yes calinou 15:53 mauvebic though i dont know if thats any good 15:53 mrtux Hahahhaha mauvebic 15:53 Calinou mrtux, you can use debian without touching terminal, though it's a bit more tough (no pun intended) 15:53 mrtux It crashes every five minutes 15:53 mrtux oh yeah 15:53 mrtux I ran it in qemu, unstable as f*ck 15:53 Calinou I run my debian in virtualbox... blame UEFI. 15:53 mauvebic one thing id wish theyd develop but never will is the LUK (unified kernel) 15:54 mrtux Reactos is shit 15:54 mauvebic i suspected as much 15:54 mrtux Ir crashes too much when I run malware on it ;_; 15:54 mrtux bluescreen after bluescreen 15:55 mauvebic X can die (or not start at all) on linux too loll 15:55 Calinou no u 15:55 Calinou q66 ragequit 15:55 mrtux install guntoo 15:55 mrtux jk 15:56 mauvebic on crunchbang though i could switch video drivers/devices more easily using rmmod and startx 15:56 NekoGloop lol mrtux "when I run malware on it" 15:56 Calinou lol yeah 15:56 keegan what internet program do you like better google chrome or firefox 15:56 NekoGloop IE 15:56 Calinou chromium is the best :D 15:56 mrtux NO 15:56 mrtux just NO 15:56 Calinou NekoGloop, seriously? internet exploder? 15:56 Calinou chromium = google chrome but opensource. doesn't track you 15:56 NekoGloop Yes, seriously. 15:56 Calinou -_- 15:56 mauvebic midori is pretty minimal too 15:56 mrtux I hate Google 15:56 Calinou midori is too limited and linux-only 15:56 Calinou I'm fine with google 15:56 Calinou (I use chrome on windows and chromium on linux) 15:56 mrtux Use startpage 15:56 OldCoder Calinou, there are plenty of other browser choices 15:57 mauvebic naw i use chrome cuz it saves my bookmarks passwords and such 15:57 Calinou my startpage is "remember tabs" 15:57 Calinou ;) 15:57 mrtux Startpage.com 15:57 Calinou NO U 15:57 mauvebic but when im gaming and just need to look something up, midori is blazing fast 15:57 mrtux it's a proxied search engine 15:57 OldCoder mauvebic, Epiphany may be worthwhile for you as well 15:57 Calinou chromium is as fast as midori iirc 15:57 Calinou mrtux, hi paranoid 15:57 mrtux no u 15:57 Calinou you know there are other ways to find pron? 15:57 mrtux yes 15:58 Calinou I have an account on gmail too 15:58 Calinou angry? 15:58 Calinou umad? 15:58 mrtux go on my fathers old laptop calinou 15:58 mrtux :P 15:58 Calinou nopez 15:58 JamieWill Im parinoid 15:58 mauvebic porn on gmail? be careful it dont get posted on g+ lol 15:58 mrtux I use yahoo mail but I am regreting it 15:58 JamieWill *paranoid 15:58 mrtux My father's old laptop has lots of it lol 15:58 JamieWill lol im screwed on g+ 15:59 Calinou my account has been blocked off g+: "using a nickname" 15:59 mrtux >google + 15:59 Calinou I never used g+ anyway 15:59 Calinou :} 15:59 mrtux Calinou do you use facebook? 15:59 Calinou nopez. no twitter, too 15:59 Calinou hate FB/twitter/g+ 15:59 mrtux I don't, and I am assuming you already know why 15:59 mauvebic weird, they refused to close my account for two months even though i was called "Gowron, leader of the empire" 15:59 Calinou yes of course 15:59 OldCoder Ha 15:59 Calinou I DONT HAVE FRIENDS 15:59 Calinou j/k 15:59 OldCoder That is not "Real Name (tm)" compatible 15:59 Calinou :} 16:00 NekoGloop Alright, so Doors+ > xDoors, Stairs+ > xStairs, xDoors^2 > Doors+. 16:00 mrtux I'll call my friends, just not using a cell phone 16:00 Calinou my real name is "we prefer instagib metl3" 16:00 Calinou we prefer being first name, instagib metl3 last name 16:00 Calinou (it's a reference to sauerbraten - some server was called so) 16:00 Calinou I don't have a cell phone too 16:00 Calinou #rms - lol 16:00 Calinou ragequit. 16:00 mauvebic next mod : superhappy megadoors 16:01 Calinou next mod: HAY BALES 16:01 NekoGloop next mod: bluescreening in minetest 16:01 mauvebic hay needs to grow first, not just those shitty brown thingies in the desert 16:01 mrtux i accidently clicked disconnect in xchat 16:02 Calinou wb, ragequitter :> 16:02 mrtux i didn't ragequit 16:02 Calinou next mod: windows minetest edition 16:02 Calinou has a firewall that prevents you from connecting to any MT server 16:02 mauvebic a computer mod 16:02 Calinou also hides extensions 16:02 mauvebic then have a minetest mod for the computer mod 16:03 mauvebic then we could write mods within mods within mods 16:03 mauvebic lol 16:03 mrtux mesecons should be included in the main minetest game 16:03 mauvebic youd have to take something else out first though 16:03 mauvebic its fairly complex 16:03 Calinou mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods within mods. 16:03 Calinou better. 16:03 mrtux brb i'm going to rdesktop into my server 16:04 mauvebic and again, #minetest-dev enjoy ;-) 16:04 Calinou lol rdesktop 16:04 Calinou ssh FTW 16:04 mrtux it's a winblows server 16:05 mrtux someone named weston went on my server 16:05 mauvebic we could write entire OSes as mods for the computer mods 16:05 mauvebic lol 16:05 mrtux "killer123" 16:05 mauvebic in the end, you could check your facebook and email from within minetest XD 16:06 RealBadAngel lol 16:06 RealBadAngel theres email mod or minecraft 16:06 mauvebic then random people login, and find that half the computer nodes have porn on them lol 16:07 Calinou q66, nice IP with 0 you have there 16:07 Calinou :o 16:07 mauvebic must be god 16:08 mauvebic or IP spoofing lol 16:09 q66 Calinou, no longer public ip 16:09 mauvebic the fun thing about linux is you can spoof your mac adress and get on pretty much any public network (like cafes that charge a fortune lol) 16:09 Calinou god's ip is 127.0.0.1. :p 16:10 RealBadAngel @calinou thats yours? i do use 127.0.0.2 16:10 Calinou lol 16:10 RealBadAngel good to have own adress ;) 16:11 saschaheylik God's Hardcore TDM | 127.0.0.1:1337 16:11 Calinou MY AWESOME SERVER 192.168.1.52 16:11 RealBadAngel shit, thats real hardore 16:11 saschaheylik i gotta print that on a shirt 16:11 RealBadAngel port is so hardore... 16:11 mauvebic our people have no gods, ancient klingons slew them a millenia ago, (more trouble than they were worth) 16:12 mrtux lol 16:12 saschaheylik bilderberg is god 16:12 saschaheylik don't u know? 16:12 RealBadAngel mankind get rid of gods 16:12 saschaheylik yes, get rid of bilderberg already 16:12 RealBadAngel just some fanatics dont realize it yet 16:13 saschaheylik i wouldnt call them fanatics.. sheep is a better "buzzword" 16:13 RealBadAngel when theyre carryin bombs? 16:13 saschaheylik the bomb people are cia 16:14 saschaheylik or at least funded from the "inside" 16:14 RealBadAngel such shit shall be forbidden 16:14 RealBadAngel and fanatics morons educated 16:14 saschaheylik lol... they are the ones who forbid 16:14 mauvebic yeah alex jones is nuts and likely doesnt believe his own story 16:15 saschaheylik i wouldnt say so 16:15 saschaheylik unless i knew 16:15 saschaheylik do you know? 16:15 saschaheylik unless i knew, i would look at it anyways 16:15 mauvebic we've been tracking you for quite some time now, 16:15 saschaheylik so far hes been getting the majority of his hypotheses verified 16:16 RealBadAngel ok, im goin back to jukebox coding 16:16 NekoGloop Ima make a house from lotsa stairsplus stuff :3 16:16 saschaheylik mauvebic: tracking who? 16:16 NekoGloop wow outta wood >.> 16:16 mauvebic lol 16:17 mauvebic its only about money, people see conspiracies everywhere 16:17 saschaheylik what is about money? 16:17 saschaheylik alex jones? 16:17 NekoGloop xfences should support different kinds of fences :P 16:17 mauvebic he sees conspiracies everywhere 16:17 saschaheylik he is listing signs of one single conspiracy 16:17 mauvebic the real explanation is all in how your political parties are funded 16:18 saschaheylik which is still a conspiracy then? 16:18 mauvebic not really 16:18 vicscandl i like cats. 16:18 saschaheylik oh in your head the definition of conspiracy == crazy fictional insanity 16:18 NekoGloop Meow~? :# 16:18 NekoGloop :3* 16:18 saschaheylik possible conspirators would love you to believe that 16:19 mauvebic no but conspiracies tend to imply unprovable ulterior motives 16:19 vicscandl do unicorn's fart rainbows? 16:19 NekoGloop no but nyan cat does 16:19 saschaheylik do you mean unprovEN 16:19 saschaheylik ? 16:19 saschaheylik im not sure what would be unprovABLE 16:19 mauvebic the reason you get screwed by the bank is because they fund alot of campaigns 16:19 * vicscandl throws some other non conspiracy topics at the wall... 16:20 saschaheylik alex jones pretty much only talks about documented stuff 16:20 saschaheylik mauvebic: and its that simple? 16:20 vicscandl hey, did you see that one mod, with that one fix, from that coder guy? 16:20 NekoGloop Yesh, I did. 16:20 saschaheylik dont you think that they would have an agenda too? 16:21 mauvebic well i saw his early videos of him driving around austin looking to pick fights with state trooper patrol points calling them nazies 16:21 mauvebic who looks crazy to you in that situation 16:21 saschaheylik well yeah he does have a bit of an anger problem appereantly 16:21 mauvebic the agenda for everyone is more money 16:21 saschaheylik but that i can understand 16:21 saschaheylik the more you research this stuff the angrier you can get 16:22 NekoGloop I lost my freakin house again 16:22 saschaheylik alex says he has been studying this for 20 years or something 16:22 NekoGloop found it! 16:22 mauvebic naw, if youre feeling screwed dont blame alex' jones' shadow neonazis 16:22 mauvebic blame the superPACs 16:22 saschaheylik and keeps watching other people just ignore what people in power are doing to them 16:23 saschaheylik how is alex jones anything near a nazi? 16:23 saschaheylik he is exposing nazis 16:23 saschaheylik does that make him one? 16:23 mauvebic no he thinks secret nazis control everything and are planning to turn the world into a prison 16:24 mauvebic while your busy believing that crap, youre letting the real abusers of your country get away 16:24 saschaheylik mauvebic: not literally everything 16:24 saschaheylik and do you think nazis cant plan to turn the world in a prison? 16:24 saschaheylik and if anyone would actually work on that idea, would nazis do that? 16:24 mauvebic im just hoping with the latest banking scandals that they'll finally write some new rules 16:25 mauvebic dont buy that alex jones crap at all 16:25 saschaheylik the reason you are being fucked in the ass is that you ask others to make the rules 16:26 saschaheylik unless people finally grow the fuck up and learn to take care of themselves, they will keep depending on their governments 16:26 mauvebic that means vote responsably, everyone knows the repeal of glass steagall was now a terrible idea, but no one's doing anything 16:26 saschaheylik who, i nturn, will tax them in the ass 16:26 mauvebic anyways getting OT 16:26 saschaheylik you think they wont manipulate the votes with ease? 16:26 saschaheylik think they are stupid? 16:27 mauvebic ... 16:27 saschaheylik they own the vote mechanism 16:27 saschaheylik and all candidates 16:27 Calinou drug talk again 16:27 saschaheylik because everyone has the price and they have the money 16:27 vicscandl Calinou: hahahha 16:27 vicscandl Calinou: was sooooooo waiting for that 16:27 saschaheylik its crazy how impossible that seems to sound to you 16:28 NakedFury what the heck you guys talking about? 16:28 mauvebic hes convinced he's getting screwed by a conspiracy, i told him its his politicians lol 16:28 mauvebic en bref.. 16:29 saschaheylik not quite 16:29 mauvebic and now i want gyros 16:29 saschaheylik what a brilliant mind you have mauvebic 16:30 vicscandl mauvebic: you punk ass.... i want gyros now too! 16:30 mauvebic you're going to need to bow to my brilliance when the new world order comes ;) 16:30 Calinou NakedFury, drugs, mauvebic, furries, fedora and OSS 16:31 vicscandl damn, this is a furries bust too? 16:33 mauvebic no gyros, only smoked meat o_0 16:34 Calinou hi hmmmm, long time no see 16:34 hmmmm hey 16:34 hmmmm i was held up with school, and then i had some other projects 16:35 NekoGloop hmmmm: A long time is a day? 16:35 hmmmm no i was around but then disappeared like a year ago 16:35 NekoGloop ah 16:36 NekoGloop you were here yesterday so i was confused 16:36 NekoGloop why is menche's server dead? 16:37 PilzAdam @all: you can vote for your fav mod here: minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628 16:37 NekoGloop why do you not put http://? 16:37 PilzAdam sry wrong link http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2770 16:37 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628 16:38 NekoGloop ok that one then 16:38 NekoGloop LOL mesecons 16:38 PilzAdam NekoGloop, this waw the wrong link 16:38 thexyz how one mod may be better than another? 16:38 PilzAdam *was 16:38 NekoGloop I KNOW 16:38 thexyz especially if they do completly different things 16:38 NekoGloop but LOL mesecons 16:39 NakedFury only have votings on similar mods 16:39 NakedFury weapons, sounds, ores, decorations, etc 16:39 NekoGloop "this is not a contest, but will give us an idea of what we like, and pride for the creators of the mod." wut nao 16:40 thexyz for example, which one is better? sethome or, say, mesecons? no point in comparing at all, they do completly different things 16:40 PilzAdam i use mesecons but not sethome 16:40 PilzAdam because i dont need something like sethome 16:40 PilzAdam so i voted for mesecons 16:41 PilzAdam everyone has different needs on minetest 16:41 NekoGloop "What is the most useful mod in your opinion?" would likely be a better topic title 16:42 mauvebic did anyone come up with a really big creative inventory that has everything? 16:42 PilzAdam mauvebic, its in the default game 16:42 NekoGloop try 0.4.2-rc1, I think it's integrated 16:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8uD-weuZk&feature=g-vrec lolwat 16:43 mauvebic sweet, i keep forgetting my givemes lol 16:43 NekoGloop why is this in my suggested vids? I havent watched caramelldansen, popipo, or fukkireta on this account >.> 16:50 keegan madchicken13 my 30000 server is up 16:52 madchicken13 where is it running what comouter? 16:52 NekoGloop madchicken13: Die, griefer. 16:52 madchicken13 griefer? 16:53 NekoGloop yes, ubuntunerd. 16:53 madchicken13 what server? 16:53 NekoGloop zenoheld the backstab 16:53 NekoGloop you grieved Calinou's house 16:54 madchicken13 the only server i griefed was Keegans and ive made that up to him 16:54 NekoGloop Too bad. 16:54 keegan madchicken13 how is ports 30000/1 in use? 16:55 madchicken13 i didnt come on here to get accused, i came on here to get help with one of my mods for minetest 16:55 Calinou hi madchicken13 16:55 madchicken13 Keegan Idk ill check ur laptop 16:55 madchicken13 Hello 16:56 NekoGloop oh, one of your stolen ideas? 16:57 madchicken13 STOLEN? 16:57 NekoGloop Yes, like big chests? 16:57 keegan so what did you find madchicken13 16:57 madchicken13 i DIDNT STEAL that I had my mod made before RealBadAngel's Mod Was Out 16:58 NekoGloop Uh, no 16:58 madchicken13 yea check the dates 16:58 NekoGloop Remember? You rubbed it in his face. 16:58 * Calinou is connecting to mrtux's server 16:59 Calinou NekoGloop, he /can/ steal his mod if it's under WTFPL 16:59 madchicken13 FUCK YOU !! have someone ban me from the forums if you want this is screwed up 16:59 Calinou -_- 16:59 NekoGloop Finally, he left. 16:59 keegan wow 16:59 saschaheylik what the hell 16:59 NekoGloop I dont think rba put it under wtfpl 17:00 Calinou mrtux, can I have build access please? 17:01 PilzAdam lol I "stealed" the idea from making a game like Minecraft (and made it better) and M13 said i ruined his "AlwaysCraft" 17:02 mauvebic there are enough similar mods to make half a dozen categories to sort them all :p 17:02 mauvebic enough bricks alone to make sure no two houses look alike lol 17:02 NekoGloop ikr 17:04 NekoGloop Yet I made more ;) 17:04 mauvebic hehe well look its even gotten to the point where we release the same stuff at the same time 17:04 mauvebic its like a natural evolution 17:05 NekoGloop lol 17:05 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KFhLi81HeM8&feature=endscreen OMG THIS IS EPIC 17:07 thexyz damaged my ears, again 17:07 thexyz thanks, NekoGloop 17:07 NekoGloop ... AND WHY THE HELL IS BEN IN RELATED VIDS? O.O" 17:08 NekoGloop thexyz: ...? 17:10 Calinou thexyz, turn sound off when starting a video obviously 17:10 NekoGloop lol 17:10 JamieWill Yeah 17:10 thexyz nice idea 17:10 thexyz next time i'll turn everything i can off before opening NekoGloop's link 17:11 JamieWill lol 17:11 NekoGloop lol not necessary 17:11 NekoGloop just maybe the speakers if you have problems with high pitches, unlike me. 17:12 JamieWill what is redcrabs 0.4.1 server with the wierd port like 30407 one or something? 17:12 NekoGloop idk check xyz's listing 17:14 JamieWill 30401 17:21 NekoGloop So how is everyone today? 17:24 NekoGloop lol solar panels on walls just black out the textures xd 17:24 NekoGloop xD* 17:25 JamieWill LOL SOLAR PANELS 17:26 NekoGloop in mesecons 17:30 NekoGloop I wanted to make somewhere you can only go at daytime ;) 17:31 NekoGloop This circuit I just built is probably redundant but wth 17:32 NekoGloop Oh yeah, I was gonna redownload technic mod. 17:32 NekoGloop Crap, I forgot. 17:33 NekoGloop Mesecons probably has another update as well, knowing jeija 17:36 NekoGloop oh cool, speed update. Means my noteblock circuit is gonna be out of time. 17:37 NekoGloop I need to clean all these .zip's outta my minetest folder lol 17:38 NekoGloop ohai Jeija 17:38 Jeija hi NekoGloop 17:38 NekoGloop :3 17:38 NekoGloop the new wires should be set by default 17:39 Jeija Will be very soon 17:39 NekoGloop and allow the user to select the old wires 17:39 Jeija yes 17:39 NekoGloop The speed improvement means I'll have to re-time my little working tune :P 17:40 Jeija oh they are already enabled :) 17:40 NekoGloop oh ok 17:40 NekoGloop well the speed improvent still means my song is gonna be out of time :P 17:41 JamieWill my ip keeps changing ahh 17:41 NekoGloop delayers dont turn off? 17:42 Jeija well, the do, but they just turn off one mesecon behind them 17:42 Jeija don't ask me why 17:42 NekoGloop so i need to f*ck the code up? 17:43 Jeija I'll reapair it 17:43 Jeija I really hope I can fix the delayer today 17:44 NekoGloop why did it get changed? 17:45 Jeija If I only knew; has to have something to do with the speed improvement 17:46 NekoGloop If only I knew* 17:50 NekoGloop How the hell do you keep track of this all? o.0 17:52 Jeija I don't ^^ 17:53 NekoGloop lol 17:53 NekoGloop I'm assuming I look at the input code? 17:56 NekoGloop I like how something this complicated has no dependancies lol 17:57 NekoGloop (except for the junglegrass mod to actually GET the junglegrass) 17:58 Jeija well that dependency could really be removed if someone has a better idea for glue 17:58 NekoGloop idk, maybe just use leaves 17:59 NekoGloop but there's still blinkyplant and powerplant 17:59 Jeija cook leaves or something 17:59 PilzAdam saplings 17:59 Jeija blinkyplant and powerplant could use sticks instead 17:59 NekoGloop hm, yeah, but I had an idea for cooking leaves. 17:59 Jeija saplings! good idea! 17:59 NekoGloop Oh, saplings will work perfectly 17:59 NekoGloop I only have a shitload 18:00 NekoGloop :D 18:00 mrtux i have to shut my minetest server down :( 18:00 mrtux apparently it used 1GB of bandwidth 18:01 NekoGloop lol 18:01 NekoGloop maybe more people will come back to the IRC then 18:01 thexyz 1gb is not that much 18:02 NekoGloop i think he has a limited bandwidth 18:02 mrtux yes but how much bandwidth does minetest usually use 18:02 NekoGloop uh... a lot? 18:02 mrtux It's on an amazon aws with 16gb of bandwidth 18:03 thexyz let me check it.. 18:03 mrtux Menche told me minetest didn't really use a lot of bandwidth 18:04 NekoGloop augh 18:04 NekoGloop guess i need to not use delayers for the time being 18:05 thexyz my server uses 0.5-1gb of bandwith every day, but there is also http server 18:05 mrtux yeah the server mine is on is http too 18:06 thexyz but it seems minetest uses most of it 18:06 mrtux also don't you run two mt servers on it? 18:06 mrtux stress test and main? 18:06 thexyz because there are <500 unique visits every day 18:06 thexyz right 18:06 mrtux ah 18:06 mrtux It could be my remote desktop too 18:06 NekoGloop|Im_not lol cant use the full thing? 18:07 thexyz but i don't care much about it because there is no bandwith limit ^^ 18:07 thexyz except that hetzner's 10tb limit after which they reduce connection speed 18:08 mrtux ah 18:08 mrtux well i have a bandwidth limit so 18:08 mrtux ;_; 18:08 NekoGloop Meow~? :3 18:17 * NekoGloop kicks mrtux :3 18:17 mrtux ... 18:18 * NekoGloop giggles evilly >:3 18:22 NekoGloop wb Jeija 18:22 JamieWill OMG and its UP rate was 100.00% ! 18:22 NekoGloop wat 18:30 mrtux wat.exe 18:30 mrtux hi 18:32 * NekoGloop pokes Jeija 18:32 Jeija ouch 18:33 * NekoGloop giggles 18:33 NekoGloop How are the delayers coming? 18:33 mrtux jeija does the latest git of mesecons work with the stable minetest 18:33 Jeija well they work now although I didn't change anything in the code 18:34 Jeija mrtux: not everything, e.g. the microcontroller not 18:34 mrtux ah 18:34 mrtux ok 18:34 Jeija I guess there is some strange endless loop somewhere (talking about the delayer bug) 18:34 mrtux ah 18:34 NekoGloop ok...? 18:35 Jeija just dunno where ^^ 18:35 NekoGloop could you push the version you have, just for kicks? 18:35 mrtux mesecons is my favorite mod 18:35 NekoGloop to see if something you didnt do fixed it? :P 18:35 mrtux now if only i can learn gates and such 18:35 NekoGloop use microcontrollers :P 18:36 mrtux they didn't work... 18:36 NekoGloop make sure you used ";" at the end of if statements 18:36 sfan5 mrtux: paste your code 18:37 Jeija It doesn't work if the dialog doesn't pop up 18:37 mrtux i didn't mess with the uC 18:37 NekoGloop use the latest version of minetest? 18:37 Jeija It works in those versions with a dialog 18:37 mrtux I'm using 0.4.1 18:37 NekoGloop uC doesnt like 0.4.1, use 0.4.2-rc1 18:37 iqualfragile make sure you used »rm -rf *« at the end of yor statements! 18:38 NekoGloop troll ^ 18:38 mrtux sounds suspicious 18:38 mrtux I know what rm -rf does 18:38 iqualfragile no, trust me, im a dolphin 18:38 mrtux on gnu/linux it deletes files, well forces the deletion 18:39 * NekoGloop kicks iqualfragile 18:39 vicscandl iqualfragile: that crap only works on keegan. 18:40 iqualfragile i know mrTUX knows what rm -rf does 18:40 NekoGloop LMAO 18:40 mrtux yes 18:41 mrtux i don't use gnu/linux but i know my fair share of commands and the flags 18:41 iqualfragile it ReMoves (all) minus Renamed Files 18:41 iqualfragile so it deletes all duplicates 18:41 iqualfragile *but it deleted everything!!* 18:42 vicscandl -r recursive delte, -f force, no prompt 18:43 iqualfragile so all your files were pirated copies! 18:43 vicscandl oh yea, sure... 18:43 NekoGloop rm -f ;) 18:46 sfan5 NekoGloop: rm: cannot remove `;)': No such file or directory 18:46 NekoGloop lol 18:46 NekoGloop I really needed someone to test it 18:47 sfan5 yeah 18:49 mrtux how do i make mesecon gates and stuff 18:49 mrtux for example if there was no power coming from a solar panel, lights would be turned on 18:53 sfan5 wait a sed 18:53 sfan5 *sec 18:54 sfan5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Troe_J5RyXE 18:54 mrtux ah 19:15 NekoGloop EVERYBODY! Come to minetest.freedns.in:30000, we have beer :3 19:17 keegan what does beer do? 19:17 NekoGloop heals you 19:17 NekoGloop :P 19:17 keegan does it make the screen shaky 19:18 NekoGloop no 19:18 NekoGloop just come and see >.> 19:19 keegan i have it on my server 19:19 NekoGloop too bad 19:19 NekoGloop come here 19:19 sdzen oy you pushing servers NekoGloop? 19:19 NekoGloop You said I could :P 19:20 sdzen post 19:20 sdzen not argue and push keegan 19:20 NekoGloop lol I did 19:20 NekoGloop but just so people mentally incapable of scrolling up know: 19:21 NekoGloop EVERYBODY! Come to minetest.freedns.in:30000, we have beer :3 19:23 JamieWill http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=37463#p37463 19:23 JamieWill what version? 19:23 NekoGloop 0.4.2-rc1 19:23 NekoGloop ohai Jeija :3 19:24 Jeija ni NekoGloop 19:24 keegan hi jeija 19:24 NekoGloop :3 19:24 Jeija go get a psychiatrist 19:24 * Jeija needs one 19:24 * Jeija goes mad 19:25 * Jeija found the dealyer bug 19:25 Jeija (after 5 hours) 19:25 NekoGloop lol 19:25 NekoGloop did you find it? 19:25 Jeija IT WAS THAT I FORGOT A "local" IN A FUNCTION 19:25 Jeija WHYYYYYYYYYY 19:25 NekoGloop lol 19:25 NekoGloop pushed to github? 19:25 * Jeija is destroying his chair 19:26 * Jeija has no time to push 19:26 * Jeija has to burn the house 19:26 * NekoGloop smacks Jeija 19:26 NekoGloop GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF, MAN! 19:26 * Jeija calming down 19:26 NekoGloop Now will you push? 19:26 NekoGloop commit, I should say 19:27 * Jeija removes the hundreds of thousends of debug prints 19:27 Jeija *thousands 19:27 NekoGloop UPLOAD THE FREAKIN UPDATE 19:29 * Jeija got rid of the debug outputs 19:29 NekoGloop NOW WILL YOU UPLOAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 19:30 * Jeija uploaded 19:30 NekoGloop no you didnt 19:30 Jeija oh yes I did https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 19:30 NekoGloop I hate this stupid webpage 19:31 NekoGloop "other non-functional changes" wtf? 19:31 Jeija typo, change parameters order, rename functions all this stuff 19:31 Jeija doesn't actually change any features 19:32 NekoGloop lol 19:32 thexyz - rules = {} 19:32 thexyz + local rules = {} 19:32 thexyz lol 19:33 NekoGloop ... wat 19:33 NekoGloop minetest, y u crash so much? 19:34 vicscandl ~ 19:35 Jeija exactly thexyz, the best thing now is to laugh about it :/ 19:37 JamieWill I have an custom ip 19:38 vicscandl i have a custom motorcycle 19:48 NekoGloop I have a custom brain 19:48 jin_xi actually they're all more or less the same 19:51 RealBadAngel and im out of beer 19:52 RealBadAngel goin to bring some more ;) 21:01 NekoGloop What is a CTCP PING? 21:06 RealBadAngel ping just 21:06 RealBadAngel time from one client to another 21:09 NekoGloop "_2cool4me4_ [~IceChat77@105.sub-97-44-35.myvzw.com] requested CTCP PING from NekoGloop: 67003256" 21:09 RealBadAngel tried to ping ya 21:09 NekoGloop >.> 21:09 NekoGloop What does that do? 21:10 RealBadAngel checks latency between two computers 21:11 RealBadAngel [NekoGloop PING reply]: 1sec 21:11 NekoGloop do I care? 21:12 RealBadAngel latency is important when you play online 21:12 RealBadAngel with latency like 300ms 21:12 RealBadAngel to the server. playin is not so comfortable 21:13 RealBadAngel all is strangely delayed 21:13 NekoGloop then why am I getting ping'd? 21:13 RealBadAngel aks pinger ;) 21:13 RealBadAngel *ask 21:13 RealBadAngel maybe wanted you to play ping pong? ;) 21:13 NekoGloop he left 21:14 RealBadAngel have you messed with tools? 21:15 RealBadAngel i need straight definition for just ONE tool, not the tables 21:15 NekoGloop lolno 21:15 RealBadAngel seen you have tools in ur mod 21:16 RealBadAngel made with tables 21:16 RealBadAngel its confusing 21:16 NekoGloop oh, you mean the gloopores or gloopblocks ones? 21:16 RealBadAngel yeah 21:16 NekoGloop ... 21:16 NekoGloop which ones 21:17 RealBadAngel gimme piece of code that defines just one tool 21:17 RealBadAngel with 10000 uses 21:17 RealBadAngel and no possibility to dig ANY block 21:18 RealBadAngel thats what i need 21:19 NekoGloop it cant break anything but needs 10000 uses? 21:19 RealBadAngel yes 21:19 RealBadAngel exactly 21:20 NekoGloop I think you just define the tool, then edit the usage variable in other events. 21:20 RealBadAngel it gonna be a battery 21:21 RealBadAngel 10000 uses will carry its charge 21:22 RealBadAngel but you shouldnt be able to break anything with its charge 21:23 NekoGloop minetest.register_tool("technic:battery", {description = "Battery", inventory_image = "technic_battery.png", tool_capabilities = {}}) 21:24 NekoGloop in the events that you want the charge to decrease... you need to lower the usage variable, which I have no idea how to do that. 21:24 NekoGloop Notice how tool_capabilities is blank. 21:25 RealBadAngel i got abm with interface for loadin/unloadin already done 21:25 NekoGloop ok 21:25 RealBadAngel just need the tool (battery) definition with variable to change 21:25 NekoGloop so it adds to the battery's power while loaded? 21:25 NekoGloop hmm... 21:26 RealBadAngel with it you will be able to transport energy 21:26 RealBadAngel take energy from solar powered batbox 21:26 RealBadAngel and go with batteries underground 21:26 RealBadAngel to load another batbo 21:26 RealBadAngel or to power tools 21:27 NekoGloop minetest.register_tool("technic:battery", {description = "Battery", inventory_image = "technic_battery.png", tool_capabilities = {max_drop_level=0, groupcaps={fleshy={times={}, uses=10000, maxlevel=0}}}}) SHOULD work 21:27 RealBadAngel lets try 21:28 RealBadAngel brb 21:28 NekoGloop By not specifying a time, the battery cannot break the blocks. 21:28 _2cool4me4_ Glad Neko is here! 21:29 NekoGloop Well you ping'd me earlier 21:29 _2cool4me4_ I was curious 21:30 RealBadAngel hmmm 21:30 RealBadAngel how to access tools meta? 21:30 NekoGloop did it work or error out? 21:30 RealBadAngel got it defined 21:31 RealBadAngel now the way to access "uses" variable of it 21:31 NekoGloop idk 21:31 NekoGloop i think similar to the way you access a node's meta 21:32 RealBadAngel need an example tho 21:32 RealBadAngel anyone? 21:33 NekoGloop check mesecons :P 21:33 NekoGloop mesecons is good for reference of all sorts of thins 21:33 NekoGloop things* 21:33 RealBadAngel hehehe 21:33 _2cool4me4_ What is the code for OR in the microcontroller? 21:34 RealBadAngel you ask for logic rule? 21:34 _2cool4me4_ Wat 21:34 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B); 21:35 RealBadAngel on any input 1 gives 1 on output 21:35 _2cool4me4_ Thanks, I was just trying to find the right symbol between A and C. 21:35 RealBadAngel ah so 21:36 NekoGloop check the .pdf in the mod folder 21:37 RealBadAngel woohoo 21:37 RealBadAngel debug file grows ;) 21:37 RealBadAngel 1,5gb today :) 21:37 NekoGloop lol fail code? 21:38 RealBadAngel no 21:38 * _2cool4me4_ facepalms at himself 21:38 RealBadAngel i do make fake breakpoints in lua 21:38 RealBadAngel with print 21:38 NekoGloop lol 21:38 RealBadAngel to know what the code is doin 21:38 NekoGloop just think of what you're doing to muad's server ;) 21:39 RealBadAngel that code is only here 21:39 RealBadAngel i remove it in public releases 21:39 keegan Y were u guyz being mean to UbuntuNerd 21:39 NekoGloop Because he's a griefer, little boy. 21:40 RealBadAngel i just dump variables i need with print 21:40 RealBadAngel to check if everythin is workin fine 21:41 RealBadAngel little boy a nerd? 21:41 keegan and UbuntuNerd didnt steal RealBadAngels mod he didnt even know that RealBadAngels Mod Was Like 21:41 RealBadAngel maybe when he will be grown up a little become a nerd 21:41 NekoGloop Get on the right name, madchicken 21:42 RealBadAngel now just dreaming of becomin a nerd 21:42 keegan So he is going to delete the post for bigger chests 21:42 RealBadAngel he should 21:42 keegan ok well he is 21:42 RealBadAngel because it was just mean 21:42 NekoGloop he posted it after saying that he took the code from rba 21:43 keegan he didnt do that because you made ur mod he did it because he saw that he could modify the code to chest 21:43 RealBadAngel whatever 21:43 keegan he used the Default chests code 21:44 RealBadAngel we were talking 21:44 RealBadAngel and after that conversation he made it 21:44 RealBadAngel and then lied he made it 2 weeks before 21:44 keegan no he was working on that mod for 2 damn weeks 21:45 keegan before you guyz talked 21:45 RealBadAngel so 21:45 RealBadAngel what a coincidence 21:45 RealBadAngel one talk, one sight 21:45 RealBadAngel and made? 21:45 NekoGloop lol keegan == madchicken? 21:45 jin_xi bigger chest is trivial to make, why drama? 21:45 jin_xi patent it 21:45 RealBadAngel hehehe 21:46 RealBadAngel i wont 21:46 keegan i dont like it when you accuse my friend for crap he didnt do 21:46 RealBadAngel but i just pointed mean behaviour 21:46 RealBadAngel if asked me, help me plz 21:47 NekoGloop you're the one pulling the crap, keegan 21:47 mrtux http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2763 can someone review my mod? 21:47 RealBadAngel i will do that with pleasure 21:47 RealBadAngel to help him out 21:47 _2cool4me4_ Can someone explain to me, what this argument is about? 21:48 mrtux dcc chat? 21:48 _2cool4me4_ Yes, I gave the request 21:48 RealBadAngel nvm 21:48 mrtux wtf is it? 21:48 mrtux hi 21:48 _2cool4me4_ A type of chat 21:48 RealBadAngel my mod is not just chests anymore ;) 21:48 _2cool4me4_ But it isn't needed anymore 21:48 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i know 21:48 _2cool4me4_ Your link isn't working mrtux 21:49 keegan You guyz are doing to same thing you did to him when he tried to make something someone would like (AlwaysCraft) 21:49 RealBadAngel chests were lua lessons i had to take 21:49 _2cool4me4_ never mind, I found the problem 21:49 NekoGloop works fine for me 21:49 mrtux works for me 21:49 NekoGloop keegan: I know, greifers stick together to the end, etc. 21:50 _2cool4me4_ Windows adds a %20 to things I copy from this program... 21:50 mrtux ah 21:50 RealBadAngel that what i made with placin wires i think is not to be copied just 21:50 _2cool4me4_ mrtux: which is a space 21:50 mrtux yeah 21:50 RealBadAngel and im kinda proud of it 21:51 RealBadAngel took a week to code it 21:54 RealBadAngel but now i do have code to make all kind of cables, transport pneumatic tubes 21:54 RealBadAngel easily, and good lookin 21:55 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jOtDkTOw3Y&feature=related 21:56 RealBadAngel forgot to put trollface on ;) 21:56 NekoGloop not trolling 21:56 RealBadAngel hehehe 21:56 _2cool4me4_ I put in if(A|C) on(B);, and when I turn the inputs off, the output stays on! (hm) 21:56 RealBadAngel state of A and C? 21:56 _2cool4me4_ Off 21:56 RealBadAngel both? 21:56 _2cool4me4_ yep 21:57 RealBadAngel rape jeija then 21:57 RealBadAngel ;) 21:57 _2cool4me4_ o.o 21:57 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B); if(!A&!B) off(B); 21:57 RealBadAngel anyways 21:57 RealBadAngel shouldt that be A|B -> C? 21:58 _2cool4me4_ still stays on... 21:58 _2cool4me4_ I'll try it with A|B 21:58 RealBadAngel logical 21:58 NekoGloop A and C are on opposite sides, looks better ingame 21:58 RealBadAngel output shall be last 21:58 _2cool4me4_ Nope 21:59 RealBadAngel yes 21:59 _2cool4me4_ didn't work 21:59 NekoGloop did you type it right? 21:59 RealBadAngel so write him 21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C); 21:59 NekoGloop does the microcontroller display "Cod not valid!" 21:59 _2cool4me4_ grr 21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C) ; 21:59 RealBadAngel propably a glitch then 21:59 _2cool4me4_ if(A|B) on(C ); 21:59 NekoGloop you need to do an off event 21:59 _2cool4me4_ without that space 22:00 NekoGloop in PM since this is being retarded 22:00 RealBadAngel after releasin my update today i found several glitches already 22:00 RealBadAngel more complex stuff, more glitches 22:00 RealBadAngel Murphy's laws 22:00 NekoGloop Eddit Murphy? :D 22:01 NekoGloop Eddy* 22:01 RealBadAngel not really lol 22:01 NekoGloop :D 22:01 * NekoGloop is now trolling 22:01 * _2cool4me4_ is sad 22:01 NekoGloop Look at your PMs. 22:01 RealBadAngel man 22:01 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B); if(!A&!C) off(B); 22:01 NekoGloop Put that exactly. 22:02 RealBadAngel be happy you can have those glitches 22:02 RealBadAngel it implies that somethin is bein done 22:03 RealBadAngel once done we can have wonderfull tool to controll our stuff 22:08 _2cool4me4_ They're coming for us all! 22:08 _2cool4me4_ join spam? 22:08 JamieWill You xyz? 22:08 JamieWill Yo xyz 22:09 NekoGloop he's 2 cool 4 u 22:09 JamieWill lol 22:09 _2cool4me4_ who 22:09 _2cool4me4_ xyz 22:10 NekoGloop thexyz* 22:10 NekoGloop whom was just highlighted ;) 22:10 _2cool4me4_ oh 22:10 JamieWill yes 22:15 * NekoGloop kicks NekoGloop... wait what? 22:26 JamieWill my server is dedicated and has a good admin 22:26 * NekoGloop kicks _2cool4me4_ because it's randomness hour 22:26 JamieWill lol 22:26 NekoGloop address to said server? 22:26 NekoGloop version? 22:27 NekoGloop port? 22:27 NekoGloop any information at all? 22:27 JamieWill * JamieWill kicks NekoGloop 22:27 NekoGloop ...? 22:27 JamieWill lol 22:27 * NekoGloop kicks JamieWill for not using /me 22:27 JamieWill version 0.4.1 22:27 JamieWill 89.242.64.58 port 30001 22:27 JamieWill oops 22:28 NekoGloop what port? 22:28 NekoGloop since I assumme you messed that up :P 22:28 * JamieWill kicks NekoGloop 22:28 NekoGloop nvm 22:28 NekoGloop OH GOD NO 22:28 JamieWill thats better shiz! 22:28 NekoGloop UBUNTU IS ADMIN 22:28 JamieWill Yeah? 22:29 NekoGloop Ima be banned every time he's on ;) 22:29 NekoGloop He hates me because I caught him griefing 22:29 JamieWill No as i removed his /ban he dont know 22:29 JamieWill i made a nice post on the frms 22:29 JamieWill whatt what mods 22:30 NekoGloop just tell me what the mods are 22:30 JamieWill y? 22:30 NekoGloop so I know what mods are in place 22:30 NekoGloop (not moderators, mods) 22:30 JamieWill Timber xdoors2 and tpr 3 22:31 JamieWill and soon to be forniture 22:31 NekoGloop bai bai 22:31 JamieWill bai 22:31 JamieWill its no that bad?... 22:32 NekoGloop going on a better server 22:32 JamieWill is it? which one#? 22:32 JamieWill its for a quiet mess around private but open to public 22:32 NekoGloop one of them 22:32 JamieWill which 22:33 NekoGloop one of them 22:33 JamieWill tell me so i can griefe your house] 22:33 NekoGloop i'm on one of the servers 22:34 * JamieWill killed NekoGloop cuz he is a D**K 22:34 NekoGloop I'm just not telling you because it's forbidden 22:34 JamieWill just tell mee 22:34 JamieWill twhich? 22:34 JamieWill on private 22:34 NekoGloop I'm just not telling you because it's forbidden 22:36 * JamieWill want to know or me gonna kill u u dirty black white piece of aisan african caribean shit fucking dick sucking homo lesbian straight guy? 22:36 NekoGloop ... no 22:37 JamieWill tell me? 22:37 * JamieWill does a puppy dog face/eyes? 22:37 JamieWill i really am doing the face tho 22:38 * NekoGloop shoves a knife through JamieWill's skull, in between the two lobes of his brain 22:38 * JamieWill think u have more than 2 lobes! 22:38 NekoGloop two halves 22:39 * JamieWill think me was right! 22:39 * JamieWill was right me think! 22:39 * NekoGloop twists the knife inside Jamie's skull 22:40 * JamieWill pulls the knife for my head and cuts of NekoGloops balls 22:40 * JamieWill can do that as he dont have any 22:40 JamieWill sorry 22:40 * NekoGloop has destroyed your frontal lobe, you cant see and thus missed 22:41 * JamieWill #want to know or me gonna kill u u dirty black white piece of aisan african caribean shit fucking dick sucking homo lesbian straight guy? 22:41 * NekoGloop gets a gun and shoots what remains of JamieWill's brain on the floor 22:41 * JamieWill u dont know the difference 22:42 * JamieWill gets a Shotgun 22:42 * NekoGloop severs JamieWill's neck 22:42 * JamieWill gets a sub lite machine gun 22:43 RealBadAngel shit, you guys are all pink 22:43 * JamieWill gets a chopper gunner 22:43 JamieWill lol 22:43 RealBadAngel with this conversation 22:43 JamieWill I know ^ 22:43 * NekoGloop grabs rba's hair and kills JamieWill with it somehow 22:44 * JamieWill gets a AC-130 22:44 NekoGloop Oh, air conditioning :3 22:44 * JamieWill gets a nuke 22:44 NekoGloop Oh, you gonna drop that on yourself? 22:45 * JamieWill Uses the nuke at the ip of NekoGloop 22:45 RealBadAngel is that gonna end with orgasm or what? 22:45 NekoGloop lol ya right 22:45 * JamieWill not at his IRC ip his real IP 22:45 JamieWill lol 22:46 JamieWill that was fun! 22:46 * JamieWill think that was fun! 22:46 * NekoGloop pays Chuck Norris $999,999.99 to kick JamieWill's skull in 22:47 RealBadAngel sex is fun;) 22:47 * JamieWill pays Chuck Norris $1,000,000.00 to kick NekoGloop's skull in I win! 22:48 JamieWill lol ^^ 22:48 RealBadAngel however normal folks dont use knives ;) 22:48 JamieWill lol 22:48 * NekoGloop is still the highest bidder because I made an automated bank transfer to give him $1,000,000.00 every day that he's alive 22:50 * NekoGloop shoves a knife up RealBadAngel's ass 22:50 * JamieWill was the one who processed that and I destroyed that Recored and didnt really process it :) 22:50 RealBadAngel excuse me, im normal one actually 22:50 JamieWill LOL^ 22:51 JamieWill No one is normal but compare to us you appear very normal 22:51 NekoGloop BEN has come. 22:51 JamieWill ssloow for a comeback just likr your server lol 22:51 RealBadAngel get this ..uckin knife and put it somwhere elses 22:52 JamieWill lol 22:52 * JamieWill wins 22:53 * NekoGloop shoves the knife farther in and leaves it there 22:53 * JamieWill pulled it out and shoves it right up NekoGloop's ass 22:54 * NekoGloop wonders why you're defending rba ;) 22:54 * JamieWill defends him cuz he is nice 22:55 RealBadAngel hes not deending propably, hes jeleaus 22:55 RealBadAngel its between u two 22:55 RealBadAngel :P 22:55 NekoGloop I shoved it up your ass ;) 22:55 RealBadAngel were at wrong place wrong time ;) 22:55 * JamieWill also does it cuz he knows the brain has more than two lobes ;) 22:56 RealBadAngel you propably mistaken asses :P 22:56 JamieWill Yep 22:56 * NekoGloop meant rba's ass 22:57 * JamieWill thats cuz NekoGloop only has 2 brain lobes and cant think properly :) 22:57 NekoGloop I can think more than you can 22:58 RealBadAngel 21st century we call it two cores 22:59 JamieWill wtf? just happened 22:59 RealBadAngel he can think eat and shit at the very same time. its called multithreading 22:59 JamieWill lol^ 23:00 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpayvIQ7Cfo 23:00 JamieWill wtf^ 23:01 NekoGloop Bacterial Contamination, cover by Vocaloid3 SeeU 23:01 JamieWill just no! 23:03 * JamieWill <3 23:03 JamieWill chicken! 23:03 madchicken13 Hello i got a Q 23:04 RealBadAngel 13 chcickens even 23:04 madchicken13 thats odd lolz 23:04 JamieWill ytr-123 23:04 madchicken13 o hello 23:04 * NekoGloop kills ubuntunerd for greifing zenoheld the backstab server 23:05 * JamieWill thinks 23:05 RealBadAngel theres one here with one lob responsible for eating 23:05 RealBadAngel maybe he wil go for a chicken 23:05 * JamieWill thinks NekoGloop is high! 23:05 * NekoGloop thinks JamieWill is oblivious 23:05 * madchicken13 thinks so to 23:06 madchicken13 lolz sorry 23:06 * JamieWill thinks madchicken13 should shut the fuck up 23:06 madchicken13 sorry 23:06 * JamieWill wink wink 23:06 NekoGloop dude. You griefed and then said you did nothing. 23:06 JamieWill lol^ 23:06 RealBadAngel 12 chicken shall be aware tho of shittin possibity 23:06 RealBadAngel and knives too 23:07 madchicken13 What did I do? 23:07 * JamieWill gets the nuke ready 23:07 RealBadAngel you sir nothin 23:07 madchicken13 sorry for Griefing damn drop it 23:07 RealBadAngel i just warned ya 23:07 madchicken13 it was a Bad idea 23:08 * JamieWill Nuke inbound 5,4,3 23:08 * JamieWill Impact from Nuke 23:08 madchicken13 Can i ask my Question? 23:08 JamieWill yes 23:08 madchicken13 can you code ? 23:08 JamieWill ti gt xdoors to work 23:09 madchicken13 ok 23:09 JamieWill me? not a chance in hell unless you want a virus? 23:09 JamieWill then were talking# 23:09 madchicken13 so how would i make a mod that lets someone add Waprps and lets Others /warp to that spot 23:10 JamieWill just do tp or something but diff code 23:10 madchicken13 like a warp mod for servers 23:10 JamieWill tbut also use some code from/spawn? 23:11 madchicken13 what is the name of that mod? 23:11 JamieWill do spawn but add another /spawn 1 but change the code to name it warp? 23:12 JamieWill idk? 23:12 madchicken13 No where can i get that mod to reference the code? 23:12 madchicken13 ill ask RedCrab he has the mod on his server 23:12 JamieWill on the fourms somewhere? 23:12 JamieWill i know i think 23:12 madchicken13 cyah'll 23:14 bas080 <3 the new mods that have been prublished while I was gone in the weekend. 23:17 NekoGloop Me: Yay~ I have a ton of mese~ 23:18 NekoGloop Minetest: Nope, I gave you an inventory full of sh*t. 23:18 NekoGloop Me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-- 23:29 sdzen madchicken just use the bookmark mod 23:29 sdzen wait hes gone XD 23:29 NekoGloop madchicken13: use the mod that makes you chut up and stop grieving 23:29 NekoGloop shut* 23:31 NekoGloop can someone point me to a good tutorial on minetest modding? 23:31 NakedFury there are non 23:32 NekoGloop the one that celeron put up himself 23:32 NekoGloop could I get a link? 23:32 NekoGloop I dont remember personally. 23:34 leo_rockway I played MC last night. 23:34 leo_rockway I think MT has the potential to get way better than MC. 23:35 leo_rockway and it's already better in many things. 23:36 NekoGloop Twas better when it first came out, for it was free. 23:39 NekoGloop JamieWill: Put up the 0.4.2-rc1 server 23:39 leo_rockway yes, I know. I think free is always better. 23:39 leo_rockway NekoGloop: I mean the playability. Game mechanics. 23:39 NekoGloop So? That's what mods are for. 23:39 leo_rockway exactly 23:39 leo_rockway there are a few things which are definitely weird in MT... 23:40 leo_rockway water physics and falling acceleration. 23:40 leo_rockway I can see that now. I have friends who play MC and they pointed this out to me. Water in MT feels like jello. 23:40 NekoGloop I think they're just fine. 23:40 leo_rockway and when you fall it feels like you're gliding down. 23:40 NekoGloop And I've played both 23:40 leo_rockway the thing I'm looking forward to the most is proper mobs. 23:40 leo_rockway animals is extremely laggy. It's a hack. 23:41 NekoGloop Hm? 23:41 leo_rockway the animals mod 23:41 NekoGloop The mobs that are made for 0.4.2-rc1 by celeron55 is also laggy. 23:42 NekoGloop Lots of entities lag MT 23:42 leo_rockway yes, but it's only a concept. He didn't include them officially because of that. 23:42 NekoGloop MC doesnt have this because the world is a fraction of the size. 23:43 leo_rockway mhm 23:44 NekoGloop 31000x31000x31000 and 256x256x256 are two very different fields to process. 23:44 NekoGloop Actually, it's double that 23:45 leo_rockway also, the map generation of MC is worse, IMO. 23:45 NekoGloop 62000x62000x62000 and 512x512x512. 23:45 leo_rockway on my first try I spawned in the middle of the sea and there wasn't any land around... 23:46 NekoGloop ikr 23:46 NekoGloop in MT the same can happen though. 23:46 NekoGloop just less likely 23:47 leo_rockway yes, I think MT has a better map generator. 23:47 leo_rockway for creative mode MT is already better than MC, I think. 23:47 NekoGloop at least it has more room to spit you out on 23:47 leo_rockway pixel art, etc. 23:48 NekoGloop yup 23:48 NekoGloop MT actually has more colors circa UnifiedBricks 23:48 leo_rockway mhm 23:48 NakedFury dont compare modden mt to vanilla mc 23:49 leo_rockway I don't know any MC mods. 23:49 leo_rockway what I tried was vanilla MC 23:49 NakedFury well vanilla is still a little, just a little better than minetest 23:50 FreeFull leo_rockway: Same thing happened on my first MC try 23:50 FreeFull All I had was pumpkins 23:50 NekoGloop We need to have an adventure-quest-esque gamemode 23:50 leo_rockway FreeFull: in the map I actually ended up playing, I had jungle all around me. I had to walk for a while to find my way out. 23:51 NekoGloop adventure-craft-esque* 23:51 leo_rockway yes! 23:51 leo_rockway ++ 23:51 FreeFull leo_rockway: In the map I ended up playing on (third map), I ended up on the edge of jungle and taiga 23:52 leo_rockway then then when I died in MC instead of respawning on my bed once, I respawned in a lava lake 23:53 * VanessaE wanders in 23:53 NekoGloop Ohai VanessaE 23:53 VanessaE hey hey 23:54 leo_rockway \ø hello 23:54 NekoGloop Did you see that Jeija's speed improvent f*cked up delayers? 23:54 NekoGloop So that time there was something actually wrong with them? 23:55 VanessaE NekoGloop: he knows they're messed up 23:55 NekoGloop he fixed them :P 23:55 VanessaE oh good 23:55 NekoGloop otherwise that would have been pointed at Jeija himself 23:56 keegan hello 23:56 VanessaE so that aside, what did I miss? :-) 23:56 VanessaE evening keegan 23:56 leo_rockway I tried MC 23:57 NekoGloop You missed a certain server getting a new computer to run on. 23:57 keegan why 23:57 VanessaE leo_rockway: and you still have hair? ;-) 23:58 leo_rockway and a unix neckbeard o.o 23:58 VanessaE :D 23:59 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhLi81HeM8 :D