Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
VanessaE |
damn it, what's with my connection today? |
00:00 |
VanessaE |
come on people, I've got some serious mining to do! ;-) |
00:01 |
marktraceur |
Ha! |
00:02 |
marktraceur |
https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/flowers should be up soon |
00:02 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles at her connection |
00:04 |
* marktraceur |
turns up the Pinback |
00:18 |
marktraceur |
Geany is super-useful for cleaning up code |
00:19 |
marktraceur |
Indentation functions, strip trailing whitespace, uniform indentation conversion, insert function headers and file headers |
00:19 |
marktraceur |
Beautiful stuff |
00:19 |
NakedFury |
downloaded it |
00:19 |
NakedFury |
can you use Execute with lua? |
00:21 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Probably not useful for minetest mods |
00:21 |
marktraceur |
If you were writing a script in lua, probably |
00:46 |
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01:02 |
* marktraceur |
is getting a little bleary-eyed from the farming mod |
01:06 |
marktraceur |
Perhaps time for more noms |
01:14 |
* VanessaE |
offers marktraceur a hamburger :-) |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
protein is good for ya :) |
01:17 |
marktraceur |
Hm |
01:17 |
marktraceur |
Good point |
01:17 |
marktraceur |
Maybe not hamburger....maybe fried rice |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
Or tacos....well, but I'd have to make it |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
No, fried rice it shall be |
01:18 |
marktraceur |
BBL |
01:22 |
VanessaE |
mmmm fried rice... |
01:34 |
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01:34 |
Riddle |
ello |
01:34 |
VanessaE |
hi |
01:34 |
MiJyn |
yo Riddle |
01:36 |
Riddle |
any idea whats broken in this world gen file? http://pastebin.com/puDyCWYu |
01:36 |
Riddle |
trying to use it to add my ores, can't see whats wrong :( |
01:38 |
Riddle |
does "generate_ore("mitchsmod:stone_with_gold", "default:stone", minp, maxp, seed+7, 1/24/24/24, 6,7, -31000, 64)" need a , after it? it doesn't in defaults gen |
01:40 |
MiJyn |
it doesnt |
01:40 |
MiJyn |
*doesn't |
01:40 |
Riddle |
hmm, minetest crashes entirly when i run a new map with this |
01:40 |
Riddle |
and idk >.< debug says nothing of value |
01:40 |
Riddle |
no error |
01:41 |
Riddle |
well, no good error |
01:41 |
Riddle |
just |
01:41 |
Riddle |
22:36:45: ERROR[EmergeThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: error: ...2\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\default/mapgen.lua:199: attempt to call field 'make_papyrus' (a nil value) |
01:42 |
Riddle |
and that can't be me? |
01:42 |
Riddle |
anything i do conflict with that? |
01:43 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Nope, doesn't seem like it |
01:43 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Have you modified the default mapgen.lua? |
01:43 |
Riddle |
>.> not at all |
01:43 |
Riddle |
i can redownload it and put it back incase? |
01:43 |
Riddle |
only copy pasted i thought |
01:43 |
Riddle |
needed the oregen part |
01:44 |
marktraceur |
Nope, not necessary |
01:44 |
Riddle |
hmm |
01:44 |
Riddle |
any idea? |
01:44 |
marktraceur |
I'm thinking |
01:45 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Can you remove the first two aliases (for stone and air) and see what that does? From what I see, they're totally unnecessary. |
01:45 |
Riddle |
i thought i needed stone for the replacing but okay |
01:46 |
marktraceur |
Doesn't look like it |
01:46 |
marktraceur |
But if it breaks more, then we'll know you do |
01:46 |
marktraceur |
And just to remove variables, if you could do a git pull on minetest_game, that would be pretty awesome |
01:47 |
Riddle |
1stttstill crashed, but did take longer |
01:47 |
Riddle |
so what do you want me to do? |
01:47 |
marktraceur |
Same error? |
01:47 |
marktraceur |
Oh, you probably have a Windows build, no git |
01:47 |
Riddle |
22:46:33: ERROR[EmergeThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LuaError: error: ...2\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\default/mapgen.lua:232: attempt to call field 'make_cactus' (a nil value) |
01:48 |
marktraceur |
OK, so a more different error, anyway |
01:48 |
Riddle |
yeah. cacti now >.> |
01:48 |
marktraceur |
Well, that might just be because in that map, cactus was the first thing it tried to generate |
01:48 |
marktraceur |
Can I ask, the file you posted to pastebin, where is that in your filesystem? |
01:48 |
Riddle |
huh, should my gen include the cacti shit? |
01:49 |
marktraceur |
Probably not, but answer the question |
01:49 |
Riddle |
in mods |
01:49 |
Riddle |
in my mod folder |
01:49 |
marktraceur |
So path/to/minetest/mods/mapgen.lua? |
01:50 |
marktraceur |
Seriously, tell me the full path |
01:50 |
Riddle |
K:\minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32\mods\minetest\MYMOD\mapgen.lua |
01:50 |
marktraceur |
Mmkay |
01:50 |
Riddle |
\MYMOD\ is actually my mod name but no matter |
01:50 |
marktraceur |
Can you post the code of init.lua as well? |
01:51 |
Riddle |
no reason not to |
01:51 |
marktraceur |
My thinking exactly |
01:52 |
Riddle |
http://pastebin.com/592iiKZG |
01:52 |
marktraceur |
(ideally, you could have this on a git repository somewhere, and I could just have it, but meh) |
01:52 |
Riddle |
little bit of white space, but yeah |
01:52 |
Riddle |
i am still giting(lol) used to github |
01:53 |
marktraceur |
"See README.txt for stuff and other information." <-- very helpful |
01:53 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: You might be interested in http://openhatch.org/missions/git |
01:55 |
Riddle |
hmm |
01:55 |
Riddle |
also my readme just says i has no license copyright on anything inthere |
01:55 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: You're overriding functions in default |
01:55 |
Riddle |
what one? |
01:55 |
marktraceur |
The sound functions |
01:55 |
Riddle |
oh? |
01:55 |
marktraceur |
default.node_sound_stone_defaults() and all |
01:56 |
marktraceur |
And default.spawn_falling_node |
01:56 |
Riddle |
i thought i was using them >.> are you talking on my ore blocks? |
01:56 |
marktraceur |
Yeah |
01:56 |
Riddle |
they are using the sound are they not? i didn't think i was righting anything? |
01:56 |
marktraceur |
Line 426 of the init.lua |
01:57 |
marktraceur |
That's a function definition |
01:57 |
marktraceur |
Delete the bits that say "function default.<whatever>" until the end of those functions, you shouldn't need those |
01:58 |
Riddle |
indeed, was editing default and cutting what wasn't mine, missed some stoof O.o |
01:58 |
marktraceur |
Yuuup |
01:58 |
marktraceur |
So now I have to ask: Is your pastebin the entire mapgen.lua, or is there more? |
01:59 |
Riddle |
it is all of it. |
01:59 |
Riddle |
all i wanted was the new ores to generate |
01:59 |
marktraceur |
OK, next question: What's in your depends.txt |
01:59 |
Riddle |
default |
01:59 |
marktraceur |
Hm. |
01:59 |
marktraceur |
This is all very strange. |
02:00 |
Riddle |
untill the mapgen problem it all worked |
02:00 |
Riddle |
the init was fine |
02:00 |
Riddle |
i just had crafting for the ores from cobble >.> |
02:01 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Do you have the entire mod hosted somewhere? I feel like if I had it I could debug faster |
02:02 |
marktraceur |
(and thanks for the nice break from the farming mod, I was starting to go a little stir-crazy) |
02:02 |
Riddle |
those two files are it |
02:02 |
Riddle |
and the pictures for textures |
02:02 |
Riddle |
i can try to make a git repos for it |
02:02 |
marktraceur |
That would be best |
02:02 |
marktraceur |
Because otherwise it would be too piecemeal |
02:03 |
Riddle |
on it |
02:04 |
Riddle |
never bothered with downloading githubs thingy, just had an account, for somereason |
02:05 |
marktraceur |
Downloading? |
02:05 |
marktraceur |
If you have a git client it shouldn't need anything else |
02:05 |
Riddle |
thats what i not has setup, only the website |
02:06 |
marktraceur |
Ah, so you should download a git client. Do you need help with that? |
02:07 |
Riddle |
i have it half done. forgot my git password >.< |
02:07 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: http://openhatch.org/missions/windows-setup/ |
02:07 |
marktraceur |
Just FYI |
02:08 |
Riddle |
cool |
02:09 |
marktraceur |
That will enable you to do things a lot more quickly, I think |
02:10 |
Riddle |
maybe, or take time setting up :P |
02:10 |
* marktraceur |
spends at least 50% of his time in a text editor or command prompt |
02:10 |
marktraceur |
Probably more like 75%, though I do spend a lot of time testing in the browser |
02:10 |
marktraceur |
I guess it depends mostly on what I'm hacking on |
02:11 |
Riddle |
cool stoof |
02:11 |
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02:11 |
marktraceur |
In any case, I'd suggest spending ~10 minutes following that tutorial, it will enable you to contribute to projects a lot more quickly |
02:11 |
marktraceur |
I can wait until you have your repo set up, I'm not in a huge rush |
02:13 |
Riddle |
riddle is having brain problems setting up this git. |
02:13 |
marktraceur |
That's OK |
02:13 |
marktraceur |
Don't rush, take your time |
02:13 |
Riddle |
indeed |
02:13 |
marktraceur |
If you need help with a specific step, I'm here, or you can join #openhatch if you want a second opinion |
02:14 |
Riddle |
my problem is i have a git repo, but i can't seem to put my folder in it. |
02:14 |
Riddle |
derpin |
02:14 |
marktraceur |
Huh |
02:15 |
marktraceur |
What commands are you running? |
02:15 |
Riddle |
i'm in that git client thingy, and i am trying to find where it made a folder that is to sync with git ? |
02:17 |
Riddle |
got it |
02:17 |
Riddle |
i think |
02:17 |
marktraceur |
Um |
02:17 |
marktraceur |
"In the git client" <-- how did you get to the "git client"? |
02:17 |
Riddle |
https://github.com/MadHatter5/Minetest-Mod |
02:17 |
Riddle |
thats the git. done |
02:17 |
Riddle |
:D |
02:18 |
Riddle |
it was a downloaded client from github |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
Ugh |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
Please look through the mission I linked |
02:18 |
Riddle |
k |
02:18 |
marktraceur |
It'll be a lot faster and more universally helpful |
02:19 |
Riddle |
anyways, i got that thing online, doing my apparent mission >.> |
02:21 |
marktraceur |
I do not get an error |
02:21 |
Riddle |
rly? |
02:21 |
Riddle |
weird |
02:21 |
marktraceur |
Yarly. |
02:21 |
Riddle |
very weird |
02:21 |
Riddle |
i wonder if my default init is corrupt |
02:21 |
marktraceur |
It would be best for you to pull the latest git of minetest, or get the latest build you can, to confirm that it doesn't work |
02:22 |
Riddle |
gonna do that. |
02:23 |
Riddle |
0606 is latest dev is it? |
02:24 |
marktraceur |
Noooo |
02:24 |
marktraceur |
That's rather old |
02:24 |
Riddle |
O.o site shows it at top, i must be in retarded land |
02:24 |
marktraceur |
Let me try to find a new dev build for you |
02:24 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: Didn't you make a 20120627 windows build? |
02:25 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Because celeron55 has been AWOL for at least a week |
02:25 |
marktraceur |
Maybe two? I dunno |
02:25 |
Riddle |
okay |
02:25 |
Riddle |
i see |
02:25 |
marktraceur |
Anyway, your mod works, it generates properly, so be proud :) |
02:26 |
Riddle |
so :D |
02:26 |
Riddle |
now to wonder why it doesn't here |
02:26 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
02:26 |
marktraceur |
Damn it |
02:26 |
Riddle |
maybe canadian PC's are retarded |
02:26 |
marktraceur |
Maybe not |
02:26 |
marktraceur |
Hold on |
02:26 |
Riddle |
crashed? |
02:27 |
marktraceur |
Yeah |
02:27 |
Riddle |
fk |
02:27 |
marktraceur |
I don't know how to put mods in the right place, evidently |
02:27 |
Riddle |
lol ? |
02:27 |
Riddle |
if it cheers you up. my first mod was IN the default folder. i added a include and mashed in new blocks. |
02:28 |
Riddle |
didn't work well. |
02:28 |
marktraceur |
Ew |
02:28 |
marktraceur |
Yeah, I can imagine |
02:28 |
Riddle |
would have been great for SP, but some guys i play games with wanted to try my mod, and it was like... EW |
02:30 |
marktraceur |
AHA |
02:30 |
marktraceur |
THERE'S THE DEVIL |
02:30 |
Riddle |
? O.o |
02:30 |
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02:35 |
Riddle |
wow |
02:35 |
Riddle |
the game just ran fine for like 2 mins in my new copy |
02:35 |
Riddle |
then flat out canceled the whole window |
02:45 |
marktraceur |
Raaauuuuggghhhhh |
02:45 |
marktraceur |
Display manager crashed |
02:45 |
marktraceur |
That was fun |
02:45 |
Riddle |
O.o |
02:46 |
Riddle |
i bet it was |
02:46 |
marktraceur |
OK |
02:46 |
marktraceur |
So at the beginning of your init.lua file, there's a line that reads "default = {}" |
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02:46 |
marktraceur |
You are TOTALLY DELETING everything in the default init.lua |
02:46 |
marktraceur |
So don't do that |
02:46 |
marktraceur |
And then it should run |
02:47 |
marktraceur |
I can't vouch for the accurate generation of the ores, but I can say that it will at least load after that |
02:48 |
Riddle |
should that default = {} be my mod = {} ? or just nil it |
02:48 |
marktraceur |
No |
02:48 |
marktraceur |
Delete that line |
02:48 |
Riddle |
done |
02:48 |
marktraceur |
You could also delete the definitions of default.whatever |
02:48 |
marktraceur |
Those might not work very well |
02:49 |
Riddle |
yet to crash :D |
02:50 |
marktraceur |
Hm? |
02:50 |
marktraceur |
It still crashes? |
02:50 |
Riddle |
nope |
02:50 |
Riddle |
yet to |
02:50 |
marktraceur |
Ah |
02:50 |
Riddle |
you fixed it :D |
02:51 |
Riddle |
now to tunnel around for those ores |
02:51 |
marktraceur |
Woot! |
02:51 |
Riddle |
make sure they exist |
02:54 |
Riddle |
is there a screen shot button? its not f2 |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
F12 |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
tor use your OS's screenshot key (e.g. printscreen) |
02:54 |
Riddle |
my screen = 3200 by 900 |
02:55 |
Riddle |
where do they go? |
02:55 |
VanessaE |
whatever your current working directory is |
02:56 |
Riddle |
thanks |
02:56 |
Riddle |
http://filesmelt.com/dl/screenshot_3975140263.png lookie |
02:56 |
VanessaE |
what are they? |
02:56 |
Riddle |
gold and obsidian |
02:56 |
Riddle |
:D |
02:56 |
VanessaE |
(and what's this on the upper left?) |
02:56 |
VanessaE |
gold? part of moreores. |
02:57 |
VanessaE |
pick a different ore :-) |
02:57 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Noice. |
02:57 |
Riddle |
gold = part of my own ores, i made mine, all i have for mods is the default and mine |
02:57 |
Riddle |
upper left = mumbles game overylay |
02:57 |
VanessaE |
still, it looks good |
02:57 |
marktraceur |
Ooh, cool |
02:57 |
* marktraceur |
forgets that he has mumble running |
02:58 |
Riddle |
the obsidian i mades gives of light amounts of light :D |
02:58 |
Riddle |
somewhere i will find uranium, it gives off whatever maxlight = at the time |
02:59 |
marktraceur |
Oh wow |
02:59 |
Riddle |
they all worked, just wanted them in world gen :D |
03:00 |
Riddle |
gtg. thanks bye |
03:00 |
marktraceur |
Eeeuuuughhhh, farming is so bad |
03:00 |
Riddle |
add llamas, they will calm you :) |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
For example |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
"if randomval < value[5] then" |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
What is value? |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
Randomval is clear, but wtf is value[5]? |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
"if randomval < crop.junglegrass_seed_chance then" <-- my version is much clearer |
03:01 |
marktraceur |
(of course, I don't know yet whether it runs) |
03:33 |
* marktraceur |
is about ready to hit sapier for making this mod the way it was made |
03:35 |
NakedFury |
is that part of your Farm Mod? |
03:37 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Yes, I'm rewriting the farming mod |
03:37 |
marktraceur |
Because it's just....it's bad |
03:37 |
marktraceur |
I'll be glad when it's over, let's say that much |
03:38 |
marktraceur |
He used entities for almost everything, it was awful |
03:40 |
NakedFury |
I thought you were starting from zero |
03:41 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Nope |
03:42 |
marktraceur |
This works out fine, it has a lot of helpful things in it |
03:56 |
marktraceur |
Wasn't there a way to specify that an ABM should occur if a specified node is *not* adjacent to the node being tested? |
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04:27 |
marktraceur |
All right, farming mod is almost done |
04:30 |
sfan5 |
:D |
04:30 |
sfan5 |
marktraceur: i made no minetest build recently |
04:31 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
04:31 |
marktraceur |
Hm, thought you had |
04:31 |
marktraceur |
Somebody did..... |
04:31 |
marktraceur |
thexyz, maybe |
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04:35 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Huh, now I'm getting the mouse-moving-up error, too |
04:36 |
marktraceur |
Must be an upgraded package |
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04:37 |
Calinou |
since when devs randomly put bugs in their packages? :| |
04:39 |
darkrose |
marktraceur: re slowness, don't remember the time, but it was really crawling at one point |
04:41 |
marktraceur |
OK |
05:02 |
marktraceur |
I gotta say, I'm really happy that Lua worked the way I expected it to |
05:04 |
marktraceur |
Lol, the water lilies really pile up |
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05:25 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> I gotta say, I'm really happy that Lua worked the way I expected it to |
05:25 |
Calinou |
for what? |
05:33 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Closures |
05:33 |
marktraceur |
Almost identical to JavaScript |
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06:13 |
noob |
is anyone on I have a queation |
06:14 |
marktraceur |
noob: Don't ask to ask, just ask! |
06:14 |
Calinou |
yes? |
06:16 |
noob |
hi calinou would you try to get on minetest.ru on port 30001 |
06:17 |
Calinou |
why? |
06:17 |
noob |
I cant seem to get on and im wondering if its a client prob or just server |
06:18 |
marktraceur |
noob: Appears to be down |
06:18 |
Calinou |
can't |
06:18 |
noob |
dang |
06:18 |
noob |
how could it possibly go down? |
06:18 |
Calinou |
because griefing |
06:18 |
marktraceur |
noob: It's not like it's some infallible server, stuff happens |
06:19 |
noob |
oh |
06:19 |
Calinou |
minetest being free makes it much easier to grief |
06:19 |
noob |
and not grifing |
06:19 |
noob |
no griefers on at the time i was |
06:19 |
Calinou |
there's no real way to protect it; other than using protection mods and graylists |
06:19 |
noob |
protection mods? |
06:19 |
noob |
grey lists? |
06:20 |
Calinou |
graylist: prevent guests from editing the world |
06:20 |
Calinou |
protection mods: prevent everyone from editing certain parts of the world |
06:20 |
noob |
oh |
06:20 |
noob |
graylist good |
06:20 |
noob |
prtection good |
06:20 |
noob |
why arent those there? |
06:21 |
Calinou |
because laziness to check & add people |
06:21 |
Calinou |
and to handle protection requests |
06:21 |
noob |
dang |
06:21 |
noob |
how do i contact xyz? |
06:21 |
marktraceur |
noob: He might join here at some point, please be patient. |
06:21 |
Calinou |
he's not on IRC right now |
06:21 |
Calinou |
don't know |
06:22 |
noob |
i have not seen him on.... |
06:22 |
noob |
i have been on a lot yet he hasnt been on... |
06:22 |
marktraceur |
noob: Because you haven't been patient |
06:22 |
noob |
yes patients has a lot he will come on moment im patient... |
06:22 |
noob |
i still dont see him im patient now... |
06:23 |
Calinou |
15 seconds != patient |
06:23 |
marktraceur |
noob: See, that's the opposite of patience |
06:23 |
noob |
...... |
06:24 |
marktraceur |
Wow, a whole five minutes |
06:24 |
marktraceur |
The ADHD generation triumphs once more |
06:25 |
Calinou |
ADHD? |
06:25 |
Calinou |
anyway, lol. |
06:25 |
marktraceur |
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder |
06:25 |
Calinou |
is this a real acronym? |
06:25 |
marktraceur |
Yep |
06:25 |
marktraceur |
Means "No ability to focus, does many different things in sequence" |
06:26 |
marktraceur |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder |
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* Calinou |
just installed chromium on debian. |
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07:05 |
marktraceur |
All right, new versions of flowers and farming now ready for general consumption |
07:06 |
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07:06 |
marktraceur |
Now loaded into marktraceur.info |
07:07 |
emspri |
thexyz has not been online for 4 days |
07:07 |
marktraceur |
emspri: That sucks |
07:07 |
marktraceur |
There are other people around to chat with, though |
07:07 |
* marktraceur |
waves and smiles enthusiastically |
07:08 |
emspri |
*test 123 |
07:08 |
emspri |
* test 123 |
07:08 |
* emspri |
test 123 |
07:09 |
marktraceur |
Been fun! |
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07:10 |
cornernote |
hi everyone |
07:10 |
marktraceur |
Hi! |
07:11 |
cornernote |
i am running the latest nightly build, and i cant seem to make a book from 3 paper |
07:11 |
cornernote |
do you think it could be because of one of the mods i have ? i might try with no mods |
07:12 |
marktraceur |
*nods* could be |
07:12 |
marktraceur |
3 in a row, vertically? |
07:15 |
cornernote |
yeah |
07:15 |
cornernote |
on any row, none work |
07:15 |
cornernote |
horizontally |
07:15 |
marktraceur |
Not horizontally, vertically |
07:16 |
cornernote |
oh |
07:16 |
cornernote |
wiki is wrong then - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Paper |
07:19 |
* marktraceur |
reads Lua, no need for wiki |
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07:24 |
* Calinou |
codes in binary, no need for a programming language |
07:24 |
Calinou |
cornernote, heh, going to update the crafting template :P |
07:26 |
Calinou |
cornernote, done - refresh to see ;) |
07:27 |
marktraceur |
I appear to have failed at rewriting the flowers mod |
07:30 |
Calinou |
rewrite of flowers mod... cool |
07:30 |
Calinou |
we need a way to farm flowers :P |
07:32 |
marktraceur |
Well, install my mod and you'll have more than you can handle! |
07:32 |
marktraceur |
Seriously, it's broken, there are too many |
07:33 |
marktraceur |
I think I need to write in a death rule |
07:33 |
marktraceur |
Some chance that a plant will die |
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07:44 |
Ririshi |
Hey guys! |
07:46 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: Hi |
07:46 |
marktraceur |
! |
07:46 |
Ririshi |
How are you? |
07:47 |
marktraceur |
Oh, pretty good |
07:47 |
marktraceur |
Got out two rewrites, only one of them exploded, counting it as a win |
07:50 |
Ririshi |
hah. |
07:50 |
Ririshi |
I got on and I see my house was partly griefed >: |
07:51 |
marktraceur |
Aw, that sucks |
07:53 |
emspri |
on wat server do u play |
07:54 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Who? |
07:54 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, plants should only regrow near a craftable "plant seed" then |
07:54 |
Calinou |
a plant seed would require several kinds of flowers and some dirt to be crafted. |
07:55 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Hm, maybe not |
07:55 |
emspri |
Ririshi |
07:55 |
marktraceur |
Plants should grow wild, but they should also die |
07:56 |
emspri |
brb |
07:56 |
marktraceur |
I like the way it is right now |
07:56 |
Ririshi |
haha. |
07:56 |
Calinou |
flower death should be rare |
07:56 |
Ririshi |
emspri: I play on gameboom. |
07:56 |
Ririshi |
some idiot were saying ¨tonight will be the time blabla¨ |
07:57 |
Ririshi |
the time has come.. |
07:57 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: The state of #minetest, sadly, is "ask a question, leave a minute later" |
07:57 |
Ririshi |
oh lawl. |
07:57 |
Ririshi |
didn see. |
07:57 |
Ririshi |
not used to my client XD |
08:07 |
Ririshi |
Why does the moreores mod use unknblock textures for the non-mined ores? |
08:08 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: What version, and what do you mean by non-mined? |
08:09 |
Ririshi |
if its still as a stone |
08:10 |
marktraceur |
OK |
08:10 |
Ririshi |
as a mineral in a cave for example |
08:10 |
marktraceur |
Where did you get the mod? |
08:10 |
Ririshi |
official site.. |
08:10 |
Ririshi |
or.. the topic |
08:10 |
marktraceur |
Link? |
08:11 |
Ririshi |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mod_list from here |
08:11 |
Ririshi |
and then moreores |
08:12 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/moreores should fix it |
08:13 |
marktraceur |
I guess Calinou didn't pull in my fixes |
08:14 |
Ririshi |
how can I download that? |
08:18 |
Calinou |
<Ririshi> Why does the moreores mod use unknblock textures for the non-mined ores? |
08:18 |
Calinou |
the latest version works just fine with textures afaik |
08:19 |
Ririshi |
I dont have the latest then? |
08:20 |
Calinou |
get the latest from the all-mod package or the more ores thread |
08:22 |
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08:22 |
Ririshi |
I already have the newest -.- |
08:22 |
Ririshi |
130627 |
08:23 |
Ririshi |
120627* |
08:25 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: And your license statement on the forum post is incorrect, FYI |
08:27 |
Calinou |
erm, yes |
08:27 |
Calinou |
going to change it |
08:27 |
Calinou |
done |
08:27 |
marktraceur |
Thanks! |
08:28 |
Ririshi |
sigh |
08:29 |
Ririshi |
marktraceur: what should I do to download/get that fix? |
08:29 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: Calinou appears to indicate that the fix was already uploaded |
08:29 |
marktraceur |
But you should be able to use git to grab my changes |
08:30 |
Ririshi |
what is git? o.o |
08:30 |
Ririshi |
I´m a noob. |
08:30 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: Ah, don't be so down on yourself, you're new to a community that's very difficult to enter :) |
08:30 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: http://openhatch.org/missions/git |
08:30 |
Calinou |
as a windowsian, I am proud to provide you... the TARBALL! |
08:31 |
Calinou |
https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/moreores/commits/master |
08:31 |
Calinou |
> download master as .tar.gz |
08:31 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: Also, if you're using Windows, http://openhatch.org/missions/windows-setup/ |
08:31 |
Calinou |
you have to use 7-zip to extract it |
08:32 |
Ririshi |
seems like I can use winrar for it? |
08:35 |
Calinou |
segfault22 is banned from the forum... |
08:35 |
Calinou |
Ririshi, don't |
08:35 |
Calinou |
winrar is da hell |
08:35 |
Calinou |
it works but it sucks :P |
08:35 |
Ririshi |
why? |
08:40 |
Ririshi |
fuu. |
08:40 |
Ririshi |
I downloaded the fix.. still having the same problem.. |
08:42 |
Calinou |
did you put it in the correct folder? |
08:42 |
Ririshi |
mods/minetest |
08:43 |
Calinou |
did you put it so that it _replaces_ the init.lua in moreores? |
08:44 |
Ririshi |
eh. |
08:44 |
Ririshi |
I just copied the whole folder. |
08:53 |
Ririshi |
I _replaced_ it now. |
08:53 |
Ririshi |
still unknblock >: |
08:59 |
cornernote |
Calinou, the paper on the wiki is the same |
09:01 |
cornernote |
i installed mesecons, but i have never seen a mese block... any tips on where to find them ? |
09:01 |
Ririshi |
very deep :p |
09:01 |
marktraceur |
cornernote: They don't spawn above -67 in the Y direction |
09:02 |
Ririshi |
just do /teleport 0,-30975,0 |
09:02 |
Ririshi |
you´ll find loads of mese there |
09:02 |
Ririshi |
or was it.. -30795 |
09:02 |
Ririshi |
lawl |
09:03 |
cornernote |
im in space |
09:04 |
Ririshi |
just mine around and place a torch |
09:04 |
cornernote |
no, i mean i was up |
09:05 |
cornernote |
i can see other ppls names below me |
09:05 |
Calinou |
cornernote, http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Paper |
09:05 |
Calinou |
> crafting template now in use |
09:05 |
Calinou |
and minor edits |
09:05 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> cornernote: They don't spawn above -67 in the Y direction |
09:05 |
Calinou |
-64 |
09:05 |
cornernote |
ahh, ok, i was looking at the crafting guide |
09:05 |
Calinou |
and there is more mese starting from -128 |
09:07 |
Ririshi |
Calinou: I used the old_init.lua and it works now. |
09:07 |
Calinou |
:o |
09:07 |
Calinou |
well, it's the old, "improper" code |
09:07 |
Ririshi |
the proper one didnt work lawl. |
09:08 |
Ririshi |
It didnt take the right pics or sth? |
09:08 |
Ririshi |
idk |
09:08 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: If you could give us a copy of the debug log, and/or do some more detective work, it would be helpful |
09:10 |
Ririshi |
marktraceur: okay |
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09:13 |
cornernote |
i went to 0,-1000,0 ... whats the chances i will see mese after digging out a 5 minute cave ? |
09:16 |
marktraceur |
cornernote: I'd say 90% |
09:17 |
cornernote |
after adding the mod, do i have to regenerate the world ? |
09:17 |
cornernote |
or will they just start to appear ? |
09:18 |
Ririshi |
quite big.. |
09:18 |
Ririshi |
Or.. I dont know. |
09:21 |
Ririshi |
calinou: was the mese generating chopped down? |
09:21 |
Ririshi |
I´m at -25K and still found 1 mese in about 3 minutes |
09:21 |
Ririshi |
marktraceur: even at -30K, I dont see mese? |
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09:36 |
cornernote |
yay, i found 2x mese =) |
09:38 |
Ririshi |
;D |
09:38 |
Ririshi |
:D |
09:39 |
Calinou |
I have 200 mese on redcrab's |
09:39 |
Calinou |
900 on gameboom |
09:39 |
Calinou |
pwnt |
09:39 |
Ririshi |
lawl. |
09:39 |
Ririshi |
Calinou: why is there WAY more mese in Gameboom than in the server I just played *offline* |
09:40 |
Calinou |
because it's a 0.3 map |
09:40 |
Calinou |
and there was more mese deep underground |
09:40 |
Ririshi |
oh |
09:40 |
Ririshi |
so mese doesn´t get spawned as much anymore? |
09:40 |
Calinou |
well most of it is 0.2 actually |
09:40 |
Calinou |
yes |
09:40 |
Ririshi |
aww |
09:40 |
Calinou |
still too much imo |
09:41 |
Ririshi |
where are the textures stored in 20120606? |
09:41 |
Ririshi |
oh found em |
09:42 |
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09:42 |
cornernote |
whats the key to see info (eg, position, etc) ? |
09:43 |
Calinou |
F5 |
09:44 |
Calinou |
top-left of screen, see the 3 numbers between parenthesis |
09:44 |
Calinou |
X,Y,Z - Y being altitude over sea level |
09:45 |
Ririshi |
Calinou? |
09:45 |
Calinou |
? |
09:46 |
Calinou |
textures: games/minetest_game/mods/default/textures |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
I´m making a *super-pickaxe* |
09:46 |
Calinou |
beat you to it |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
and then for tool_capabilities |
09:46 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1882 |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
how to make it be *superlonglasting* |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
I dont want the whole pack lawl |
09:46 |
Calinou |
beat you to it |
09:46 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1882 |
09:46 |
Calinou |
it's not a pack |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
i mean. |
09:46 |
Ririshi |
all stuff from that mod |
09:47 |
Calinou |
you're not forced to use all the mod |
09:47 |
Calinou |
you might use the admin pick only |
09:47 |
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09:49 |
Ririshi |
ok ok :p |
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09:51 |
Ririshi |
lawl I changed 100K blocks with 2 commands XD |
09:51 |
brobostigon |
good morning everyone. |
09:52 |
Ririshi |
hey brobostigon! |
09:53 |
brobostigon |
hey Ririshi |
09:53 |
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09:53 |
Ririshi |
Hello Bad_Command! |
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09:58 |
Ririshi |
why don´t we have animated water? |
10:04 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: 'cause nobody's added it yet |
10:05 |
marktraceur |
Or maybe, someone has and it was t3h slow |
10:22 |
cornernote |
how do you get lava in the bucket ? |
10:23 |
cornernote |
i got it =) |
10:30 |
cornernote |
the lava bucket does not seem to power the furnace |
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10:38 |
Calinou |
<27marktraceur> Or maybe, someone has and it was t3h slow |
10:38 |
Calinou |
tried it; it glitches |
10:38 |
Calinou |
cornernote, left click water/lava source |
10:38 |
Calinou |
using a lava bucket as fuel would be inefficient, as the bucket would be lost |
10:38 |
Calinou |
use coal instead or wooden planks or cacti or leaves |
10:39 |
jordach |
calinou, make a mod |
10:40 |
cornernote |
then what do you use a lava bucket for ? |
10:41 |
Calinou |
decoration, burning stuff (creates fire when flammable stuff is nearby) |
10:41 |
Calinou |
:P |
10:41 |
Calinou |
and hurting people when pvp is disabled |
10:42 |
cornernote |
i see, it can store the lava in it, then you tip it out later |
10:42 |
cornernote |
where do i get a plant for a power plant ? |
10:42 |
cornernote |
also, thanks for your help... makes the game a lot more fun when there is people to help |
10:43 |
cornernote |
=) |
10:45 |
cornernote |
if you put your water bucket in the top floor, it aparently floods the house :( |
10:45 |
cornernote |
*tip your water bucket |
10:46 |
cornernote |
it becomes a water source ? |
10:46 |
Calinou |
infinite sources can be created, yes |
10:50 |
cornernote |
i see, u can fix it with a bucket... just take the source away |
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11:05 |
cornernote |
there is no jungle grass in 0.4 ? http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Biomes#Jungle |
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11:45 |
loerwyn |
Hey. Having a major stress issue with Minetest :( |
11:46 |
loerwyn |
I seem to be unable to switch my hotkey items, and I honestly cannot work out how to do it. |
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11:55 |
cornernote |
loerwyn, just click an item, then click the slot where you want it to go |
11:55 |
loerwyn |
That doesn't work, it just drops it on the floor. |
11:56 |
cornernote |
im not sure then, sorry im new... could be a bug cos it works for me |
11:56 |
cornernote |
oh, sec... |
11:56 |
cornernote |
press I |
11:56 |
emspri |
hi |
11:56 |
cornernote |
does that help ? |
11:56 |
emspri |
need help ?? |
11:57 |
emspri |
pres q if u wanna drop something |
11:57 |
cornernote |
he wants to swap the slot of an item, so it can be accessed with a hotkey |
11:58 |
loerwyn |
Yes. I want to get wood blocks from my inventory into, say, hotkey slot 4. |
11:58 |
cornernote |
yeah, press I |
11:58 |
loerwyn |
Creative mode if that helps, but I couldn't do it in the other mode either. |
11:59 |
emspri |
just drag wood from your inventory to the 4th slot of the upper line |
11:59 |
cornernote |
os there no jungle grass in 0.4 ? |
11:59 |
cornernote |
os=is |
11:59 |
emspri |
sorry im not good at engllidh |
11:59 |
jordach |
cornernote, these has not been for a while |
11:59 |
emspri |
english |
12:00 |
cornernote |
you can only /giveme to get it ? |
12:00 |
jordach |
pretty much |
12:00 |
emspri |
there is no jungle grass |
12:00 |
cornernote |
thats not good :( |
12:00 |
Calinou |
no jungles in 0.4 |
12:00 |
loerwyn |
That doesn't work, empsri. As I said, it drops it. |
12:00 |
cornernote |
i need it to make power plants |
12:00 |
jordach |
/giveme junglegrass |
12:00 |
cornernote |
this game will be so good when its more complete... its soo good now!! |
12:01 |
emspri |
does somebody know if minetest.ru is online ,, |
12:01 |
emspri |
?? |
12:01 |
emspri |
cuz i cant connect to the server |
12:02 |
Calinou |
it's down yes |
12:02 |
Calinou |
reason unknown, probably resource usage/griefng |
12:02 |
emspri |
o cuz i was woried about griefers |
12:02 |
Calinou |
griefing is easy on minetest |
12:03 |
Calinou |
:/ |
12:03 |
Calinou |
grief-free servers are usually empty |
12:03 |
emspri |
it was easyer if you could kill them cuz then they go to the spawn |
12:04 |
Calinou |
> lava buckets, but buckets disabled |
12:04 |
Calinou |
"OMG PEOPLE GRIEF WITH THEIR HANDS LETS DISALLOW HANDS" |
12:05 |
emspri |
just make a house 2000 high like i did XD |
12:06 |
loerwyn |
So we don't know how to switch items in the inventory, then? Oy :( No wood floor for me :( |
12:06 |
emspri |
there should be something that only allows the placer to delete the block |
12:08 |
emspri |
or a cam mod that records every player so we can watch them to find out who the griefer is |
12:09 |
emspri |
brb |
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12:12 |
emspri |
Calinou do u know where thexyz is ?? |
12:14 |
emspri |
he hasnt been online for 4 days |
12:15 |
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12:18 |
emspri |
hi van |
12:18 |
emspri |
can you connect to the server ??? |
12:19 |
cornernote |
loerwyn, press I, then you can click an item and change its pos in your inventory |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
good morning |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
emspri: I haven't tried, I just got up |
12:20 |
emspri |
how late is it by you ?? |
12:20 |
VanessaE |
8:20am |
12:21 |
emspri |
by me 14:20 |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
also, nope the server doesn't connect for me either. |
12:21 |
jordach |
emspri, living near latvia? |
12:21 |
emspri |
are you in amerika ?? |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
western North Carolina, US. |
12:21 |
emspri |
jordach i live in netherland |
12:21 |
jordach |
damn |
12:21 |
VanessaE |
Nederlander eh. cool. |
12:22 |
emspri |
do they say nederlander in english ?? |
12:22 |
VanessaE |
not usually, no. |
12:22 |
emspri |
o ok in dutch the say that |
12:23 |
VanessaE |
I may not speak/write in Dutch, but I've had plenty of exposure to that and other languages over the last 16 years by way of another chat I hang out on. |
12:25 |
emspri |
do somebody know why somepeople wana be a teacher ?? |
12:25 |
emspri |
i still dont get that |
12:25 |
VanessaE |
it used to be to help people learn - it was a good thing. |
12:26 |
VanessaE |
these days many just do it for money. |
12:26 |
jordach |
VanessaE, thats the world for you |
12:26 |
emspri |
youre rid of scool and then you wanna come back |
12:26 |
VanessaE |
emspri: the difference is, when you teach you also have control over what goes on in the classroom, at least to a point. |
12:27 |
VanessaE |
you're no longer subject to someone else's rules, outside of whatever your employer sets forth, of course. |
12:28 |
VanessaE |
once you've been in school long enough, you start to see where things could be improved. That is often the inspiration for people to come back and teach - to fix what they saw as "wrong" when they were there as students. |
12:28 |
emspri |
il hate scool for ever XD |
12:28 |
VanessaE |
naw, eventually you'll hate it less. |
12:28 |
VanessaE |
all kids hate school though |
12:29 |
emspri |
when i was going to the higher scool stuf thing i was soo happy , then 2 monts later it sucked so hard |
12:29 |
emspri |
XD |
12:30 |
VanessaE |
part of what makes school suck so much is teachers who, themselves, are terrible. Either they don't maintain proper discipline in the classroom, or they're too much so, or they just suck when it comes to actually teaching their core subject. |
12:31 |
VanessaE |
I have always said that if you can't learn something, assuming you have the interest in it, it's because your teacher sucks. |
12:31 |
emspri |
you know wath priv i wana have ??? |
12:31 |
VanessaE |
hm? |
12:31 |
emspri |
worldedit !! |
12:31 |
VanessaE |
hah! |
12:32 |
VanessaE |
good luck with that |
12:32 |
emspri |
XD il never get it |
12:32 |
VanessaE |
besides, 30001 doesn't have worldedit installed. |
12:32 |
emspri |
i know cuz its a mod |
12:33 |
VanessaE |
yup |
12:33 |
VanessaE |
brb |
12:33 |
emspri |
brb im going to get a snack |
12:37 |
emspri |
and im back |
12:39 |
VanessaE |
back |
12:42 |
emspri |
could it be that the prooftime of xyz is over |
12:42 |
VanessaE |
the server stress test was over after only a few days. Now I just wish xyz would move the world to a stable (read: no lag) server |
12:43 |
emspri |
the prooftime of mirc |
12:43 |
VanessaE |
oh, screw mirc |
12:43 |
VanessaE |
I use xchat |
12:43 |
VanessaE |
he probably uses pidgin or irssi or something |
12:43 |
VanessaE |
there are lots of truly free irc clients out there |
12:43 |
emspri |
ow |
12:44 |
VanessaE |
s/ow/oh/ |
12:44 |
* emspri |
test123 |
12:44 |
VanessaE |
yes, /me works here too :-) |
12:44 |
VanessaE |
(this is where it originated) |
12:45 |
emspri |
brb |
12:45 |
emspri |
o no brb yet |
12:45 |
emspri |
could i use ban too XD |
12:46 |
VanessaE |
no :-) |
12:46 |
VanessaE |
in fact I don't think anyone here can - no operators. |
12:48 |
emspri |
who has vacation ?? |
12:48 |
VanessaE |
? |
12:48 |
emspri |
summer vacation |
12:49 |
VanessaE |
no, the channel itself is messed up. no one thought to register themselves or the channel to ensure that there would always be at least one operator. |
12:49 |
VanessaE |
so now it's stuck with none. |
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13:21 |
VanessaE |
there. now my desk is clean |
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13:35 |
VanessaE |
heyNF |
13:35 |
NakedFury |
hey |
13:38 |
cornernote |
what would be required to fix junglegrass ? |
13:39 |
cornernote |
im reading some other lua mods, and they seem to be able to change the drop ratio of blocks |
13:39 |
VanessaE |
just spawn it randomly like one does with flowers and what-not,. |
13:39 |
cornernote |
perhaps i can change the drop ratio of weeds to sometimes give it ? |
13:40 |
VanessaE |
no |
13:40 |
cornernote |
in the junglewood, they do it like this |
13:40 |
cornernote |
material = minetest.digprop_woodlike(0.3), |
13:40 |
cornernote |
minetest.register_node("junglemod:junglewood", { .... material = minetest.digprop_woodlike(0.3), }) |
13:40 |
VanessaE |
jungle grass should be a separate node, though I don't see any reason why it needs to be associated with jungles |
13:40 |
cornernote |
i dont care where it spawns =) |
13:41 |
cornernote |
but i dont know how to get the node to spawn |
13:41 |
VanessaE |
one ABM to spawn it randomly (use my poisonivy mod as a basis maybe), and a second ABM to make it spawn as the top node on a stack of papyrus occasionally. |
13:41 |
jordach |
VanessaE, my wool mod has an algorithm for that |
13:41 |
cornernote |
whats an ABM ? (sorry to be a noob) |
13:41 |
VanessaE |
jordach: as does my poisonivy mod :-) |
13:41 |
VanessaE |
ABm = Active Block Modifier |
13:42 |
VanessaE |
basically a randomly-triggered event where you do something to effect a change |
13:42 |
VanessaE |
such as spawning a new node somewhere. |
13:42 |
cornernote |
are there API docs? or we just read the source and other mods for ideas/examples? |
13:42 |
VanessaE |
reading someone else's source is easier to understand than that travesty that is the minetest API. |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
re: junglegrass: I would suggest at least 4 or 5 sizes of grass, all of which drop a single junglegrass item when digged. |
13:43 |
cornernote |
most mods seem remarkably simple, which is really good |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
(multiple sizes = more variety in appearance. |
13:44 |
cornernote |
cant wait until some of the more complex ones are working, like vehicles =) |
13:45 |
VanessaE |
heh |
13:45 |
cornernote |
anyway, off to bed now... thanks for all the help and for all the time you guys take sharing your work! |
13:45 |
VanessaE |
maybe I'll make a junglegrass mod :-) |
13:45 |
cornernote |
its just that you need it for the mesecon mod |
13:45 |
cornernote |
and you need that for other mods |
13:45 |
VanessaE |
my homedecor mod needs it too. |
13:45 |
VanessaE |
as does unifieddyes,. |
13:46 |
cornernote |
yep |
13:46 |
cornernote |
also, wanted to ask about something else... |
13:46 |
cornernote |
instances |
13:46 |
VanessaE |
instances? |
13:46 |
cornernote |
i never played minecraft, but i played wow |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
never playes WoW. |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
played* |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
nor MC. |
13:47 |
cornernote |
instance is like... you get teleorted to another world |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
oh |
13:47 |
cornernote |
and in that world you play it like a fighting level |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
well there is a teleporter mod, and the world is certainly big enough to create multiple sub-worlds. |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
(think nyanland) |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
(or nether) |
13:48 |
cornernote |
nether looked awesome |
13:48 |
cornernote |
if i am far enough away, will other players see my name tag ? |
13:49 |
cornernote |
i guess it could be like the schems *.me files too.... you load your world, then you //pos1, then insert the dungeon |
13:49 |
cornernote |
maybe in the sky or somewhere that nobody can get to |
13:50 |
cornernote |
there is non-deletable blocks mod, so i could surround the region so that nobody can get in |
13:50 |
cornernote |
then we can do things like mob drops |
13:51 |
cornernote |
vendors |
13:51 |
cornernote |
oh, and another aspect that may be really interesting... leveling, and items that can only be used by a given level |
13:51 |
cornernote |
and if crafts can only be done at a given level |
13:52 |
cornernote |
anyway, off to bed before i sit here and start coding instead of sleep! |
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emspri |
hi |
14:05 |
emspri |
im so borred |
14:05 |
VanessaE |
bored, you mean :-) |
14:05 |
emspri |
bye |
14:06 |
* emspri |
disconected |
14:06 |
VanessaE |
er, bye... |
14:06 |
VanessaE |
hah |
14:06 |
emspri |
o no thats normaly blue |
14:06 |
emspri |
XD |
14:07 |
VanessaE |
nice try, nevermind your spelling sucks ;-) |
14:07 |
emspri |
im not so good at englis XD |
14:07 |
VanessaE |
heh |
14:07 |
emspri |
english |
14:07 |
emspri |
in the past i wrote inglesh |
14:08 |
emspri |
i still dont know wats the good one |
14:08 |
Calinou |
moreblocks update get! |
14:08 |
Calinou |
:] |
14:09 |
* VanessaE |
is testing an update for junglegrass |
14:09 |
VanessaE |
woohoo, it works |
14:09 |
VanessaE |
now I just have to tune the spawn rate :-) |
14:10 |
emspri |
is there jungle grass ?? |
14:10 |
VanessaE |
there will be when I'm done. |
14:12 |
* emspri |
plays nyan cat lost in space |
14:13 |
VanessaE |
the correct spelling, by the way, is "English" (with a capital E) |
14:15 |
emspri |
The correct spelling, by the way, is "The" (with a capital T). |
14:15 |
emspri |
XD |
14:17 |
emspri |
do u have teamvieuwer ?? if yes can you download and set a texture pack for me if u want for 1 stack of mese ?? |
14:17 |
VanessaE |
no I don't. |
14:17 |
emspri |
ow ok |
14:17 |
VanessaE |
installing a texture pack is dead easy though |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
(well it is in Linux anyway) |
14:18 |
emspri |
what is linux and lua |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
Linux is an operating system. |
14:18 |
emspri |
can u learn me to mod if u want ?? |
14:18 |
VanessaE |
lua is a programming language, and is used to program mods for minetest. |
14:18 |
emspri |
i want to make my own mods |
14:19 |
VanessaE |
no, I couldn't teach you that - I'm still learning as it is. |
14:19 |
emspri |
ok |
14:20 |
emspri |
let me gues , now its 10:20 by you |
14:21 |
VanessaE |
yes |
14:21 |
emspri |
and i wrote gues wrong |
14:24 |
VanessaE |
brb |
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14:27 |
emspri |
redcrab are u online ?? |
14:31 |
emspri |
london bridge is falling down falling down falling down,london bridge is falling down my hot baby |
14:32 |
VanessaE |
hot baby? |
14:32 |
VanessaE |
a modern twist on 'fair lady'? |
14:33 |
emspri |
i didnt know it was fair lady XD |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
No clue if there are any further versus to that rhyme, though. |
14:33 |
VanessaE |
it's been years since I last heard anyone sing it. :-) |
14:33 |
emspri |
brb |
14:43 |
VanessaE |
should I allow jungle grass to spawn on sand too? |
14:48 |
VanessaE |
mmm, maybe not,. |
14:49 |
emspri |
brb longer cuz i have to clean up my room |
14:59 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/junglegrass-20120708.zip |
14:59 |
VanessaE |
new mod get! |
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15:01 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: new mod get! |
15:01 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/junglegrass-20120708.zip |
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15:03 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=30207 |
15:03 |
VanessaE |
there. posted for all to scoff at ;-) |
15:07 |
emspri |
back |
15:07 |
emspri |
how can i copy these sites ?? |
15:07 |
VanessaE |
you should be able to just click on it to browse to it |
15:07 |
emspri |
o i figured it out already |
15:09 |
Calinou |
hi |
15:09 |
* Calinou |
is commiting moreblocks updates using git |
15:09 |
* Calinou |
edited his /etc/apt/sources.list to point to testing rather than wheezy |
15:14 |
emspri |
hi |
15:16 |
VanessaE |
what's changing in moreblocks? |
15:17 |
emspri |
what is moreblock |
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15:18 |
VanessaE |
one of Calinou's mods. |
15:18 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
15:18 |
emspri |
what does it do ?? |
15:18 |
VanessaE |
it adds various mostly-decorative blocks to the game |
15:18 |
Calinou |
and new crafting recipes, and new name aliases |
15:18 |
VanessaE |
like ironstone, coal glass, etc. |
15:19 |
Calinou |
finally no more "unknown" item when going /giveme stonepick |
15:19 |
Calinou |
:] |
15:19 |
Calinou |
doing* |
15:19 |
VanessaE |
shouldn't it be pick_stone? |
15:19 |
emspri |
im asking a lot of questions dont i ?? |
15:19 |
VanessaE |
nothing wrong with asking questions, emspri, as long as you learn from the answers :-) |
15:19 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, meh, I might add more aliases later |
15:20 |
Calinou |
that'll do |
15:20 |
emspri |
where can i find that moreblocks thing |
15:20 |
Calinou |
people will often try /giveme woodpick, or woodensword, or such |
15:20 |
VanessaE |
right |
15:20 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=509 |
15:20 |
Calinou |
left |
15:20 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: ok ok enough with your mods, go download mine! ;-) |
15:21 |
Calinou |
no, sorry :} |
15:21 |
emspri |
calinou can you teach me how to mod ?? |
15:22 |
Calinou |
it's not easy; you should have basic scripting/programming knowledge |
15:22 |
Calinou |
if you know how to use a note pad and have basic programming skills, you can make basic mods |
15:23 |
emspri |
the only thing i can make is a matrix |
15:23 |
emspri |
XD |
15:27 |
emspri |
... |
15:27 |
emspri |
.. |
15:27 |
emspri |
. |
15:27 |
emspri |
.... |
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emspri |
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emspri |
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15:27 |
emspri |
. |
15:27 |
emspri |
.... |
15:27 |
emspri |
... |
15:27 |
Calinou |
stop with the periods |
15:27 |
emspri |
.. |
15:27 |
emspri |
... |
15:27 |
emspri |
.. |
15:27 |
Calinou |
-.- |
15:27 |
emspri |
. |
15:27 |
emspri |
.... |
15:28 |
emspri |
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15:28 |
emspri |
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15:28 |
emspri |
im borred XD |
15:28 |
Calinou |
12 year old spotted |
15:29 |
emspri |
im 13 |
15:29 |
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15:31 |
Calinou |
lol, someone called staff |
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15:31 |
NakedFury |
stop that |
15:31 |
VanessaE |
knock it off emspri. |
15:31 |
Calinou |
emspri, this is why you shouldn't spam |
15:31 |
Calinou |
now, we have a staff |
15:31 |
Calinou |
he's gonna yell about single # |
15:32 |
marienz |
Calinou: someone being idoru |
15:32 |
Calinou |
and he'll rename the channel ###################minetest |
15:32 |
emspri |
ok sorry im just borred |
15:34 |
emspri |
i didnt spam |
15:34 |
Calinou |
lol |
15:34 |
marienz |
Calinou: probably no need to worry about that unless your website's inaccurate |
15:34 |
VanessaE |
I do wish someone would fix the lack-of-ops issue here |
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Calinou |
erlehmann is inactive, yes :/ |
15:50 |
Calinou |
as you can't really prove your identity on irc, op privilege can't be passed by staff to c55 |
15:51 |
VanessaE |
well it can be, it's more a matter of trust than proof. that said, I couldn't even begin to guess who should be the recipient of that privilege. |
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Calinou |
c55 obviously, he made the game ._. |
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16:25 |
VanessaE |
well yeah, but fat lotta good that does if he isn't here. :-) |
16:34 |
* Calinou |
got quieted from #debian |
16:34 |
Calinou |
this is pretty useless as I can /msg every single guy |
16:34 |
Calinou |
distro ops tend to be advanced morons with lowercase names |
16:38 |
jordach |
true |
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emspri |
NakedFury do u know why thexyz has not been online for a while ?? |
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Calinou |
noone knows |
16:49 |
jordach |
emspri, he may have things todo you know |
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Ririshi |
Hey guys |
17:08 |
NakedFury |
no emspri |
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17:19 |
marktraceur |
I saw what happened with emspri last night, that was pretty awful |
17:19 |
VanessaE |
what happened? what'd I miss? |
17:19 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: He spammed the channel, marienz (freenode staff) came in and fixed it |
17:19 |
Ririshi |
marktraceur: what happened? |
17:19 |
Ririshi |
oh lawl. |
17:19 |
VanessaE |
oh that |
17:20 |
marktraceur |
"I'm bored" <thousands of periods> |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
that was just a little bit ago |
17:20 |
jordach |
aha |
17:20 |
marktraceur |
Oh! Well, I was asleep anyway |
17:20 |
jordach |
seen in my logs |
17:20 |
marktraceur |
"Last night" == "during the last time I was unconscious" |
17:20 |
VanessaE |
hahaha |
17:21 |
jordach |
marktraceur, lawl |
17:21 |
jordach |
really funny |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
mark, junglegrass. get it. :-) |
17:21 |
marktraceur |
I know, I know |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
</spam> |
17:21 |
marktraceur |
It's somewhere in the nature mod, I just missed it |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
no, |
17:21 |
VanessaE |
it's new. I just wrote it today. |
17:21 |
marktraceur |
Oh! |
17:22 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=30207 |
17:22 |
marktraceur |
Links? |
17:22 |
jordach |
VanessaE, i can write a even better one# |
17:22 |
jordach |
that is inextricably linked to my wool |
17:22 |
VanessaE |
pfft. wool, bleah. |
17:22 |
jordach |
VanessaE, dont annoy the wool |
17:22 |
jordach |
otherwise itll be 256 textures for you |
17:22 |
* VanessaE |
taunts the happy fun wool, just for spite ;-) |
17:23 |
jordach |
VanessaE, 256 wool colours? |
17:23 |
VanessaE |
overkill. :-) |
17:23 |
jordach |
my next version will have that, plus coca cola red |
17:23 |
Ririshi |
go for 16million wool colours. |
17:23 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Why you randomize inside of ABM? |
17:23 |
jordach |
Ririshi, (node metadata can do this) |
17:24 |
VanessaE |
it's how flowers was done, I didn't see much reason to change it |
17:24 |
marktraceur |
Not my flowers |
17:24 |
VanessaE |
ironzorg's. |
17:24 |
marktraceur |
(though really, mine is still broken) |
17:24 |
VanessaE |
junglegrass was derived from poisonivy, which was derived from flowers before you rewrote it. |
17:25 |
marktraceur |
OK, I'll pull yours, modify it, let you know what I did, and fix my flowers to be more like your junglegrass |
17:25 |
marktraceur |
Basically, there's no need to call randomness functions in an ABM, because the chance parameter already deals with that |
17:25 |
VanessaE |
ahh |
17:26 |
marktraceur |
(and I don't wonder that you should save some memory in the process) |
17:27 |
marktraceur |
BBL |
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emspri |
im so borred without minetest :( |
17:36 |
emspri |
can someone teach me how to make a server ??? |
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17:38 |
marktraceur |
emspri: When you play single player, you create a server |
17:38 |
marktraceur |
Congratulations! |
17:38 |
marktraceur |
(on an unrelated note, has anyone gotten ops privileges yet?) |
17:39 |
marktraceur |
emspri: If you've built minetest, there should be a binary called "minetestserver" next to your "minetest" binary |
17:40 |
emspri |
whats a binary ?? do u mean the bin folder ?? |
17:43 |
marktraceur |
emspri: In basic terms, a binary file is a file that can be passed directly into your computer's CPU. Sometimes, through an intermediary. |
17:43 |
emspri |
ow ok |
17:43 |
marktraceur |
The "bin" _directory_ is where the minetest build process puts its results |
17:44 |
emspri |
no i dont have minetestserver |
17:45 |
emspri |
and i have privileges |
17:46 |
emspri |
oh the server is back |
17:46 |
emspri |
o no it did not |
17:46 |
marktraceur |
What? |
17:47 |
marktraceur |
You didn't have a server binary, but then did again, but suddenly it re-disappeared? |
17:47 |
emspri |
no i was talking about minetest.ru |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
Well, focus, please |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
So you don't have the proper binary, well, that's fine |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
We can build it or find you a build |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Am I correct in assuming that you're using NT? |
17:49 |
emspri |
what is that ?? |
17:49 |
marktraceur |
The NT kernel? |
17:50 |
emspri |
i think im using winrar |
17:50 |
marktraceur |
The NT kernel is usually found at the heart of a Windows operating system, so if you're using Windows, you're using NT |
17:50 |
emspri |
o then im usinh it |
17:50 |
emspri |
using i mean |
17:50 |
marktraceur |
OK |
17:51 |
marktraceur |
There are build instructions in README.txt, in the minetest source. You should read them, but take heed of the warnings at the top. |
17:51 |
marktraceur |
emspri: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt |
17:51 |
marktraceur |
Scroll to where it says "compiling on windows" |
17:52 |
marktraceur |
And do those things |
17:53 |
emspri |
do i have to download all this stuf ?? |
17:54 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Yes, they're the build dependencies. If you don't download them, it won't work. |
17:56 |
jordach |
marktraceur, compiling in windows is blokkecks |
17:56 |
marktraceur |
jordach: I don't know what that means |
17:56 |
jordach |
i meant to type bollocks |
17:57 |
marktraceur |
jordach: I agree, I'd much rather have him try it on GNU/Linux, but I assume that he'd say something like "wats that" and I would then be forced to visit violence upon him |
17:57 |
marktraceur |
(not for ignorance, but for lack of proper grammar; I'm dangerously close to leaving as we speak) |
17:58 |
jordach |
marktraceur, im a true dev - i use windows 7 |
17:58 |
marktraceur |
jordach: That's cute, carry on |
17:59 |
jordach |
>_> |
17:59 |
jordach |
marktraceur, just go to -mods |
17:59 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: What license is used for your textures? |
17:59 |
jordach |
wtfpl and cc-by-sa on marked textures |
17:59 |
marktraceur |
jordach: I am in #minetest-mods |
17:59 |
marktraceur |
cc-by-sa it shall be |
18:00 |
jordach |
marktraceur, thats why i left the minetest bit out |
18:00 |
jordach |
emps has no idea |
18:00 |
VanessaE |
if I made them entirely by myself, I'll have specified WTFPL. |
18:00 |
VanessaE |
those which I derived from the ones included in minetest are GPL |
18:01 |
jordach |
VanessaE, the minetest textures went cc-by-sa long ago |
18:01 |
VanessaE |
minetest is all GPL unless someone has specified otherwise. |
18:01 |
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18:01 |
VanessaE |
still, I actually don't care what becomes of them :-) |
18:01 |
VanessaE |
use them as you want, I'm just trying to comply with the game's primary license. |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
This == why there should be explicit copyright information in every software release |
18:02 |
jordach |
VanessaE, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/README.txt |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
Aye, it's cc-by-sa |
18:04 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'll make the necessary adjustments later. |
18:04 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I've added license texts to the junglegrass mod where appropriate |
18:04 |
VanessaE |
thanks. |
18:05 |
marktraceur |
I also took out some debug information, but it should be easy to throw back in |
18:07 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: https://gitorious.org/marktraceur-minetest-mods/junglegrass |
18:08 |
VanessaE |
remind me later, I'm kinda occupied :-) |
18:08 |
jordach |
VanessaE, two 6 inch subs from subway? |
18:08 |
VanessaE |
no |
18:08 |
VanessaE |
coding. |
18:08 |
jordach |
what |
18:08 |
jordach |
id like to be like that |
18:08 |
jordach |
mmmmmmmm subway |
18:09 |
* jordach |
now wants to order one, but the nearest one is miles away |
18:09 |
jordach |
OH GOD I MISS MY BEARD |
18:13 |
emspri |
buy one |
18:13 |
jordach |
emspri, dont make me call the irc cops |
18:14 |
emspri |
i almost have a small beard |
18:15 |
jordach |
mine was shaggy |
18:15 |
jordach |
long and shaggy |
18:15 |
emspri |
i love beards later im never gonne cut it |
18:15 |
marktraceur |
OK, so apparently there's a bug in the way I generate stuff.....maybe a bug in core, do not know |
18:16 |
emspri |
and later il mary a woman with a beard XD |
18:24 |
emspri |
brb |
18:24 |
Ririshi |
LAWL |
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18:39 |
Ririshi |
hey guys. |
18:39 |
marktraceur |
Ririshi: Hi! |
18:41 |
Ririshi |
imma take a shower |
18:41 |
Ririshi |
cya after that |
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18:42 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Any luck with the build? |
18:43 |
emspri |
nope but im gonne stop wit it cuz its too hard for me |
18:43 |
VanessaE |
DAMN IT. |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
why does minetest have to give such meaningless error messages? |
18:44 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: What is it? |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
14:43:50: ERROR[main]: A serialization error occurred: |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
14:43:50: ERROR[main]: deSerializeString: size not read |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
14:43:50: ERROR[main]: The server is probably running a different version of Minetest. |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
in *single player* mode. |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
(I'm working on an update to one of my mods) |
18:44 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Sorry to hear that. If you were on a GNU/Linux install, I'd be more helpful, certainly |
18:45 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I think a lot of people have been getting that sort of error. |
18:45 |
emspri |
i get it everytime when i begin single playae |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
what does it mean in English? |
18:45 |
marktraceur |
Well, I'm off to the store, good luck! :) |
18:45 |
marktraceur |
Oh, fine |
18:46 |
marktraceur |
Serialization is how the server and client send messages to each other |
18:46 |
VanessaE |
right |
18:46 |
marktraceur |
So deSerializeString is trying to read a message sent over the network |
18:46 |
marktraceur |
But apparently, the size doesn't exist, so whatever message was being sent had an indeterminate size or some such |
18:46 |
marktraceur |
That would be my guess |
18:46 |
* marktraceur |
is out |
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18:55 |
saschaheylik |
this is BAD http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php |
18:56 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
18:56 |
saschaheylik |
o.O |
18:56 |
LandMine |
lol |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
and OF COURSE I can't log in to revert that change (how the hell did the bot do it?) |
18:59 |
LandMine |
IM SUPER BORED!!!!!!!! |
19:01 |
NakedFury |
play a game |
19:01 |
saschaheylik |
make a game |
19:01 |
LandMine |
well playing mt isnt very fun anymore lol i already grief all known servers |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
there. fixed. |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
which is why you are bored. |
19:03 |
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19:03 |
VanessaE |
learn to actually build and play normally and it's far more fun. |
19:05 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Agreed, actually playing the game is awesome |
19:06 |
LandMine |
go to ecube and gamebbom...i can build :) pretty good at that |
19:06 |
LandMine |
brb taking abath |
19:07 |
jordach |
the damn mine = emspr.i ? |
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19:22 |
emspri |
?? |
19:23 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
19:23 |
LandMine |
lol |
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19:57 |
VanessaE |
great, it's another one of these fucking out-of-item-slots errors. |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
remove *any* mod from my current install, even completely unrelated ones, and the error goes away |
20:00 |
VanessaE |
(there are 1261 items being registered, without the mod I removed. There are 1479 registered items including it.) |
20:00 |
VanessaE |
I thought the game was supposed to allow up to 2048 registered items? (and even then, c55 said he'll probably expand that) |
20:03 |
emspri |
are there 1261 items in minetest ?? |
20:03 |
VanessaE |
there are in my install. by default though, there are only a hundred or so I think. |
20:04 |
emspri |
ow ok |
20:04 |
emspri |
jordach wats with emspri ?? |
20:04 |
jordach |
??? |
20:05 |
emspri |
you said "the damn mine = emspr.i |
20:05 |
emspri |
" |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
1353 and it still works. |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
(I'm moving mods in and out of my install, trying to find the limit) |
20:09 |
emspri |
that must be boring |
20:09 |
emspri |
?? |
20:09 |
VanessaE |
coding can be at times, yes. |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
1399 items works, 1411 items breaks. |
20:15 |
VanessaE |
the limit must be an even 1400. |
20:16 |
emspri |
ok |
20:16 |
VanessaE |
1399 works, 1405 breaks. |
20:17 |
emspri |
1400 works 1401 breaks |
20:17 |
VanessaE |
there must be more than what I'm counting, like recipes or something. |
20:18 |
VanessaE |
1400 is just too strange of a limit. |
20:19 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Are any of them using legacy_ options? Are there aliases? |
20:19 |
emspri |
do u know why some people have 124 or more blocks in one slot ?? |
20:19 |
VanessaE |
oh there are plenty of aliases, not sure how many are using legacy_* |
20:19 |
VanessaE |
emspri: /giveme dirt 9999 |
20:19 |
marktraceur |
emspri: /giveme command |
20:20 |
emspri |
oo ok |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
1399 registered items, 1740 matches for just "ItemDefManager:" |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
(in a single run of the debug.txt) |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
it works with that, if I go over (1405 registered items as above), it dies with that deSerialization error |
20:22 |
VanessaE |
so it ain't my code |
20:23 |
VanessaE |
ever since he introduced these nodeboxes, the number of available slots for items seems to have just plummeted. |
20:24 |
VanessaE |
(and I'm not even *using* them in the mod I'm working on) |
20:27 |
VanessaE |
why in G*d name did c55 choose NOW to go on his little break? |
20:27 |
Bad_Command |
he has a life |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
I mean, couldn't these last couple of releases have waited until after he could expect to have to to debug them> |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
IOW don't release if you can't be there to debug. |
20:28 |
Bad_Command |
it wasn't released |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
well you know what I mean |
20:28 |
VanessaE |
last few commits then |
20:29 |
VanessaE |
everyone's always being encouraged to "use the latest git" or similar wording. |
20:30 |
Bad_Command |
Yeah, gameboom stays with releases: 20120606 |
20:30 |
VanessaE |
20120606 is outdated. |
20:30 |
VanessaE |
:) |
20:31 |
marktraceur |
And it's even a *dev* release |
20:31 |
BartoCH |
Bad_Command, yeah, I cannot join since the protocol from the git is 11 and gameboom is 10 >:( |
20:31 |
Bad_Command |
BartoCH: just run two copies |
20:31 |
BartoCH |
i can wait for an upgrade of your side |
20:31 |
marktraceur |
BartoCH: You could whip up a shell script to checkout a specific commit and then start the game |
20:32 |
marktraceur |
Checkout, build, start |
20:33 |
BartoCH |
i know, but i'm enough a dickhead to be determined to run at the latest commit :-p |
20:33 |
jordach |
BartoCH, self laughing is good |
20:33 |
BartoCH |
jordach, sure |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
so I reiterate: |
20:34 |
BartoCH |
please, continue |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
don't commit and push, and then tell people to use that (or fail to tell people not to) and then just disappear. |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
either wait until after you're back to make that "this is gonna break things" commit, or wait to go on your break. |
20:35 |
VanessaE |
(I'd opt for the former, to allow for as long and early a break as needed) |
20:38 |
VanessaE |
</rant> |
20:39 |
jordach |
night! but ill be gone until tuesday; in on a 2 day school trip to a theme park |
20:39 |
VanessaE |
hell of a field trip |
20:39 |
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jordach|tablet |
havin trouble with landmine? |
20:51 |
jordach|tablet |
i have A clever solution |
20:52 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: What is it? |
20:52 |
jordach|tablet |
send illegal files within the server, then the copS find em, bam, no more Mines |
20:52 |
jordach|tablet |
ever |
20:53 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: The problem is that we'd need to have those files in order to send them |
20:53 |
jordach|tablet |
youre looking at him |
20:54 |
jordach|tablet |
all we need is a modifid server module |
20:55 |
jordach|tablet |
i also know a freecam beater |
20:56 |
jordach|tablet |
server checks what chunks the entity is in, and if hes say over so many blockS, ip ban |
20:57 |
jordach|tablet |
so the general chunk distance is 16*5 which is normal chunk viewing |
20:57 |
jordach|tablet |
taadaa |
20:59 |
jordach|tablet |
hmm. |
21:00 |
jordach|tablet |
sounds about right, minetest should havs a player entity / camera |
21:00 |
jordach|tablet |
if the camera is too faraway from the player, should indicate a hacker |
21:01 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: That doesn't make any sense |
21:01 |
jordach|tablet |
ill give details tuesday, im afk All day tomorrow, eg, 2 day trip |
21:01 |
marktraceur |
Oh boy |
21:02 |
marktraceur |
OK, have fun |
21:03 |
jordach|tablet |
ijr |
21:03 |
jordach|tablet |
ikr |
21:07 |
jordach|tablet |
Marktraceur, why not give him the dns changer malware, He will get cut off from the internet forever |
21:09 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Because it's illegal |
21:10 |
jordach|tablet |
depends |
21:10 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: On what? |
21:10 |
jordach|tablet |
if the server was infected in minetestserver without knowing, then, in class, bada boom dns changer |
21:11 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Causing changes on someone else's computer without their permission is illegal. |
21:11 |
jordach|tablet |
see utoret |
21:11 |
jordach|tablet |
utorrent help |
21:12 |
jordach|tablet |
you can get iNfected without even knowing |
21:12 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Someone has to intend that the infection happen |
21:12 |
marktraceur |
And that person would be breaking the law |
21:13 |
jordach|tablet |
well, since im going to switch to freebsd soon win 7 looks like a goodtest bed |
21:13 |
jordach|tablet |
hmm. |
21:13 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Are we even having the same conversation? |
21:13 |
jordach|tablet |
loophole time. |
21:14 |
marktraceur |
If you intend to change the operation of another person's computer without their authorization, you are intending to break the law. |
21:16 |
jordach|tablet |
well. small print is awesome. |
21:16 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: No. No small print, no loophole, no exception. It's _illegal_. |
21:17 |
jordach|tablet |
humans will try to beat others, even if it means death |
21:18 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Maybe some humans will, but this isn't the place to discuss it. |
21:19 |
jordach|tablet |
mark, humans want war over everything else. its genetic from the Neanderthal times |
21:19 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: Intelligent people realize the need to contain genetic impulses, hence, laws. |
21:20 |
jordach|tablet |
in time, all turns to dust, see the universe in 100 Billion years time |
21:21 |
jordach|tablet |
death is mandatory |
21:22 |
jordach|tablet |
times the one thing ive got |
21:23 |
jordach|tablet |
intelligene > brawn |
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21:27 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: You realize, of course, that you're typing like a moron. |
21:27 |
jordach|tablet |
tablet keyboards sux |
21:27 |
dizzyone |
herp derp, hi |
21:29 |
MiJyn |
yo dizzy |
21:30 |
marktraceur |
dizzyone: Hi! |
21:32 |
dizzyone |
(: |
21:36 |
jordach|tablet |
okay, google put me in the weird bit again |
21:36 |
MiJyn |
yay! |
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21:39 |
jordach|tablet2 |
frigin wifi |
21:39 |
MiJyn |
lol |
21:40 |
jordach|tablet2 |
my wpa went wrong |
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22:15 |
LandMine |
sfan you there? |
22:20 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: ^ |
22:20 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: If you say his entire name, he gets highlighted |
22:21 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/edit.php?id=28399 |
22:21 |
VanessaE |
BAM!! |
22:21 |
LandMine |
says i cant see it |
22:21 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Private message? |
22:21 |
LandMine |
ohhh ok mark |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=28399 |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
oops, copied the wrong link |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
there it is. |
22:22 |
LandMine |
mark do you know anyway to make it so the nuke mod by sfan doesnt destroy certain blocks? |
22:22 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Nice |
22:22 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Not off the top of my head |
22:23 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Can you link to the code? |
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22:23 |
LandMine |
there |
22:23 |
LandMine |
http://pastebin.com/L0CWuYjg |
22:24 |
LandMine |
i was guessing the key was in line 125 |
22:24 |
LandMine |
if n.name ~= "air" then |
22:24 |
marktraceur |
Yes |
22:24 |
LandMine |
just add "or n.name ="dirt" |
22:24 |
LandMine |
but that didnt work |
22:24 |
marktraceur |
Exactly |
22:25 |
marktraceur |
Can you post the new contents of that line here? |
22:25 |
LandMine |
how i have it? |
22:25 |
marktraceur |
Oh wait |
22:25 |
marktraceur |
Not or, and |
22:25 |
LandMine |
ok let me test it |
22:25 |
marktraceur |
in n.name ~= "air" and n.name ~= "dirt" |
22:26 |
LandMine |
didnt work |
22:28 |
LandMine |
hmm anyone else have an ida? |
22:28 |
LandMine |
idea*** |
22:28 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Post the new code, please |
22:28 |
LandMine |
http://pastebin.com/7KXHHuA9 |
22:29 |
LandMine |
shorter version |
22:29 |
LandMine |
what im making |
22:29 |
LandMine |
i added if n.name ~= "air" and n.name ~= "dirt" then |
22:29 |
LandMine |
line 88 |
22:29 |
marktraceur |
Maybe it should be "default:dirt" instead |
22:29 |
marktraceur |
I don't know if that's necessary |
22:29 |
marktraceur |
Also, "default:dirt_with_grass" |
22:29 |
marktraceur |
Or something |
22:30 |
LandMine |
let me see |
22:32 |
LandMine |
it doesnt need default.....it doesnt destroy dirt but does destroy the one with grass |
22:32 |
LandMine |
lol |
22:32 |
marktraceur |
Ah. |
22:32 |
LandMine |
but i see the fix was and instead of or |
22:32 |
LandMine |
thank you |
22:32 |
marktraceur |
Yup |
22:33 |
LandMine |
i love you <3 |
22:36 |
emspri |
??? |
22:36 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Good question! |
22:37 |
emspri |
are you guys gay ?? |
22:37 |
marktraceur |
Wow. |
22:37 |
marktraceur |
Any ops? Jordach-tablet, don't you have op privilege? |
22:37 |
emspri |
whats op |
22:38 |
marktraceur |
emspri: Operator, it means they have privileges on this channel |
22:39 |
marktraceur |
emspri: In other words, please take your presumptions and homophobia elsewhere |
22:41 |
LandMine |
lol |
22:41 |
LandMine |
btw mark that didnt work |
22:41 |
LandMine |
just made it make giant holes |
22:41 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: What didn't? |
22:41 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
22:42 |
marktraceur |
Well, that's the purpose of it, right? |
22:43 |
LandMine |
no |
22:43 |
LandMine |
the reason why i dont want it to destroy certain blocks |
22:43 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: What should be happening, but isn't? |
22:43 |
marktraceur |
It's not destroying dirt, is it? |
22:43 |
LandMine |
is cause i want it to make that block to send another nuke flying |
22:43 |
LandMine |
they only way to do that is with an explosiuon |
22:44 |
marktraceur |
What? |
22:44 |
LandMine |
but i dont want it to destroy anything |
22:44 |
LandMine |
just send the nuke flying |
22:44 |
marktraceur |
So for dirt, it should spawn a new nuke, but not kill it |
22:45 |
LandMine |
no for example x is launcher and z is nuck |
22:45 |
LandMine |
nuck |
22:45 |
LandMine |
nuck*** |
22:45 |
LandMine |
so basically they would be together liek this |
22:45 |
LandMine |
xz |
22:45 |
LandMine |
when x explodes |
22:45 |
LandMine |
it sends z flying |
22:45 |
LandMine |
.......................................................z |
22:46 |
marktraceur |
Hm |
22:46 |
LandMine |
but i dont want x to destroy anything when it explodes |
22:46 |
marktraceur |
I don't know, it would need some serious changes |
22:47 |
LandMine |
i dont think so....just need to add a if conditional |
22:47 |
LandMine |
so if node name= something |
22:47 |
LandMine |
dont remoce |
22:47 |
LandMine |
remove |
22:54 |
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22:55 |
LandMine |
ok marktraceur got it working like i want |
22:55 |
LandMine |
now another favor can you look at this again |
22:55 |
LandMine |
http://pastebin.com/L0CWuYjg |
22:56 |
LandMine |
and tell me how i can edit the first lines so the nuke doesnt fall right away but goes up instead then falls? |
22:56 |
LandMine |
cause it doesnt go very far |
22:59 |
LandMine |
hahahahaha this is so COOL!!!!! |
22:59 |
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23:02 |
Jordach-tablet |
hey greifer |
23:02 |
LandMine |
hi |
23:02 |
LandMine |
:) |
23:02 |
marktraceur |
LandMine: Look for setvelocity in the lua docs |
23:02 |
Jordach-tablet |
my server is a house of fun |
23:03 |
marktraceur |
The return value of add_entity should be a LuaEntitySAO |
23:03 |
LandMine |
thats mark will look into it |
23:03 |
LandMine |
right now i found out the higher it is the farther it goes |
23:04 |
LandMine |
lol its so fun |
23:06 |
Jordach-tablet |
i have a nice prototype server, (anti-xray, enforces server textures, anti-freecam, identifies loaded chunks reqested by players which are faraway and broadcasts to all players, anti-mesepick, converts nodes into unbreakable (regenerating) |
23:07 |
LandMine |
cool story brah |
23:07 |
VanessaE |
"enforces server textures" = I will never use it |
23:07 |
VanessaE |
(I like my texture pack, tyvm) |
23:07 |
Jordach-tablet |
landmine, i found sometHing hiding in minetestserver, And in the renderer |
23:07 |
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23:07 |
VanessaE |
hey grog |
23:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howdy vanessa |
23:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
server been down for awhile? |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
23:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
drag |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
23:08 |
VanessaE |
inthe meantime, I've been modding again :-) |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=30207 |
23:09 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=28399 |
23:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool - I've been checking out some other servers today |
23:09 |
LandMine |
ok? |
23:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
whoa, that's a lot of colours! |
23:12 |
VanessaE |
yup |
23:13 |
dizzyone |
red-violet, what dreams are made of |
23:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nice |
23:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
both those mods work with the latest release? |
23:13 |
Jordach-tablet |
btw, 77 wool colours if you dont mind |
23:13 |
VanessaE |
it was a toss-up whether to call that fuchsia or red-violet. settled on the latter because I couldn't figure out how to spell fuchsia ;-) |
23:14 |
VanessaE |
grog: yes, written with that in mind. |
23:14 |
dizzyone |
I vote for manly-violet |
23:14 |
Jordach-tablet |
correct spelling vanessa |
23:14 |
Jordach-tablet |
VanessaE: 77 shades of wool? |
23:15 |
VanessaE |
yeah, correct spelling now, *after* I released it :) |
23:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm going to install both of those and check them out - thanks v |
23:15 |
Jordach-tablet |
wow, derpy |
23:15 |
dizzyone |
technically though VanessaE |
23:15 |
dizzyone |
if I may say |
23:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
see you on the server when it's back up |
23:15 |
VanessaE |
wool? bleah. no more updates until you get your head out of your ass ;-) |
23:15 |
dizzyone |
your violet is actually closer to indigo |
23:15 |
dizzyone |
and red-violet is closer to violet |
23:15 |
VanessaE |
dizzy: yeah I know, but to my eyes it's a nice shade thereof. |
23:15 |
dizzyone |
but that's just a detail |
23:16 |
Jordach-tablet |
head out my ass, no wonder why i hear so much shit :D |
23:16 |
dizzyone |
and you spelled fuchsia correctly too :D |
23:16 |
* Jordach-tablet |
pointed that out first dizzyone |
23:18 |
dizzyone |
oh ): |
23:20 |
dizzyone |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_pink |
23:20 |
dizzyone |
tickle me pink :') |
23:21 |
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23:22 |
jdach-tblt-webbr |
hehe, tablet browser likes webirc |
23:29 |
dizzyone |
so you cook stone and you get titanium dioxide? |
23:32 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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23:32 |
VanessaE |
it was the only way I could think of that made any sense at all :-) |
23:32 |
dizzyone |
there goes my stone soup mod |
23:32 |
VanessaE |
haha |
23:34 |
dizzyone |
maybe there should be a chemistry mod |
23:34 |
dizzyone |
let you extract all kinds of rare earth |
23:35 |
VanessaE |
hmmm... |
23:35 |
VanessaE |
I dunno |
23:35 |
VanessaE |
if someone writes it, I'll try to work in support for it but I ain't gonna be the one to do it ;-) |
23:38 |
VanessaE |
hopefully c55 returns soon.. he said he was going to add a bunch of "content" to the game, one of which is some kind of dye system (hence my mod; my official offering to that end) |
23:39 |
dizzyone |
I haven't played minecraft in ages |
23:39 |
dizzyone |
so I kinda forgot how dyes are made |
23:39 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
23:40 |
dizzyone |
but yours is much better for having so many colors |
23:40 |
VanessaE |
thanks :-) |
23:40 |
VanessaE |
I was kinda going for slight overkill :-) |
23:41 |
dizzyone |
you can never have enough shades of pink >:| |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
well i think there's about half a dozen or so in this mod, depending on how wide your definition of "shades of pink" is :-) |
23:45 |
dizzyone |
the alpha and the omega |
23:45 |
dizzyone |
minecraft uses bonemeal |
23:45 |
VanessaE |
bone meal!? |
23:45 |
dizzyone |
to make lighter shades of colors |
23:45 |
VanessaE |
gevalt |
23:45 |
dizzyone |
yes, from skeletons |
23:46 |
VanessaE |
I think deriving from stone is a little less macabre. :) |
23:47 |
dizzyone |
well I don't know what kind of stone that is, but the internet tells me titanium is made from ilmunite |
23:48 |
dizzyone |
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bone_Meal |