IRC log for #minetest, 2012-07-07

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02:10	NakedFury	is the program geany set for lua?
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03:22	marktraceur	NakedFury: I think you need to enable a plugin for it
03:34	marktraceur	Has anyone figured out how to use joysticks with Minetest?
03:37	VanessaE	never tried, but it seems like it would be a little difficult
03:40	marktraceur	It is :(
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03:50	VanessaE	well I meant it would be a little hard to play in that state
03:55	NakedFury	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpadder
03:55	NakedFury	try that
03:56	NakedFury	have not tried it yet but since you asked I started looking
03:56	NakedFury	hmmm you have to pay
03:57	NakedFury	http://www-en.jtksoft.net/
03:58	NakedFury	JoyToKey- play games with your favorite joystick
03:59	NakedFury	http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/ QJoyPad, a simple Linux/QT program that lets you use your gaming devices where you want them: in your games!
03:59	NakedFury	you might like the last one. linux and free in the same sentence
04:01	NakedFury	marktraceur: now I invoke you so you know this information is here.
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05:25	marktraceur	Success! Joystick works with QJoyPai
05:25	marktraceur	s/Pai/Pad/
05:25	marktraceur	And proof: Typing with joypad
05:26	marktraceur	itsawwdssadwasdwas41234565jeeeejj
05:27	VanessaE	cool
05:27	marktraceur	It could almost be useful
05:27	VanessaE	"almost" heh
05:27	marktraceur	VanessaE: You're right, it will take some getting used to
05:32	marktraceur	I feel like this might be most useful in combat, not so much in mining
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05:51	marktraceur	Are there Debian packages available for the latest 0.4 versions?
06:10	VanessaE	dunno, but if you want an AMD64 build for xubuntu 12.04, I have one handy :-)
06:11	VanessaE	(actually, there IS a daily builds PPA which might be up-to-date also)
06:23	marktraceur	Hm.
06:24	marktraceur	I ask because the FSF is looking into hosting a server, but they want a "proper" package
06:24	marktraceur	I want to use 0.4, since 0.3 is so outdated
06:28	VanessaE	my AMD64 build seems proper enough
06:28	VanessaE	but whatever :-)
06:31	marktraceur	VanessaE: Hosted somewhere? I'll post it.
06:31	VanessaE	one sec, I'll upload it
06:31	marktraceur	Awesomesauce
06:32	marktraceur	I'd also accept the PPA, do you have the link?
06:32	VanessaE	not handy, but I think it's linked to from the main site
06:33	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/minetestc55_0.4-20120627-1_amd64.deb
06:33	VanessaE	try that
06:33	VanessaE	it's compiled with only the usual set of dependencies.
06:33	VanessaE	(global install, not run-in-place)
06:34	marktraceur	VanessaE: Noted, thanks
06:35	VanessaE	no prob
06:35	VanessaE	enjoy :-)
06:35	marktraceur	I'll link the LibrePlanet list to both
06:35	VanessaE	suggest you move it to a more permanent location; that's really more of a cache folder. I clean it out every so often
06:35	marktraceur	Hrm.
06:36	VanessaE	(but I'll keep it in place if you need me to)
06:36	marktraceur	No, I got it
06:38	marktraceur	You can clear it out now
06:45	VanessaE	no worries, I'm too lazy to clean up right now ;-)
06:48	marktraceur	darkrose: http://marktraceur.info/shared/images/minetest/map.png
06:49	darkrose	heh, my little house is kinda big :)
06:49	marktraceur	Agreed, but what's the red?
06:49	darkrose	apparently sandstone is red?
06:49	marktraceur	Ah
06:49	marktraceur	K, makes sense
06:50	darkrose	not really, it's sort of a dull gold
06:52	VanessaE	desert stone I think
06:53	VanessaE	no that's not right either
06:53	* VanessaE	shrugs
06:53	darkrose	on the actual map it's sandstone
06:53	VanessaE	right
06:53	VanessaE	wish c55 were around, I'd happily devise and submit an updated colors file
06:54	marktraceur	VanessaE: Or he could pull the patch that auto-generates it
06:55	VanessaE	or do that :-)
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08:13	jordach\|tablet	morninG
08:15	jordach\|tablet	brb, going to use my pc in a min
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09:02	cy1	huh...
09:02	cy1	so...
09:02	cy1	everything compiles
09:02	cy1	can run the server and the client
09:02	cy1	and login w/ pubkey
09:02	cy1	but you see yourself like another player in the game
09:03	cy1	so you see a guy overlapping you making all the same movements sorta
09:03	cy1	I guess that's worth committing!
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09:19	cy1	so uh
09:19	cy1	https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-core
09:19	cy1	good night
09:38	Calinou	sfan5, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29996#p29996
09:38	Calinou	delete: offtopic, spam
09:38	Calinou	and spoonfeeding request too
09:40	brobostigon	good morning everyone.
09:43	jordach	Calinou, back to building my sonic the hedgehog textures (mainly mega drive based)
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11:29	Ririshi	Hey all.
11:30	Ririshi	My friend asked me if you could join his server: 83.163.67.27 is his ip. The server is not always online.
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14:21	ChatHeure	Bonjour, il y a des utilisateurs francophone ici ?
14:22	ChatHeure	I don't understand how crafting...
14:32	ChatHeure	bye!
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15:24	Calinou	installed debian testing!
15:24	Calinou	now cloning MT git
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15:25	cornernote	hi
15:25	cornernote	im new to minetest, and also new to minecraft... love the game and have been playing it with my kids all day
15:26	cornernote	we have just been building in creative mode, so im trying to understand the "actual" game...
15:26	cornernote	i see you can craft, but i cant see how to do it in game
15:26	Calinou	hi!
15:27	Calinou	http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting
15:27	Calinou	all crafting recipes
15:27	Calinou	cornernote, if you installed minetest on linux (self-compiled), don't forget to install minetest_game repo!
15:27	Calinou	if you used git
15:27	cornernote	hi Calinou, thanks, i saw that... but i dont know how to do it in game... eg, i put 3 papyrus in a line, then nothing happens
15:28	cornernote	shouldnt it make paper ?
15:28	Calinou	then you are using the "minimal" game.
15:28	cornernote	im playing on windows :(
15:28	Calinou	oh okay
15:28	Calinou	cornernote, when you start a new world, choose "minetest game"
15:28	Calinou	not "minimal"
15:28	cornernote	ok, will try now
15:29	cornernote	ok, then i'll join with creative mode, so i can get some papyrus
15:30	cornernote	ok, then i harvested it in non-creative mode
15:31	cornernote	then i put it on the grond, 3 next to each other
15:31	cornernote	now nothing happens
15:31	cornernote	i expect they should turn into paper
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15:31	cornernote	but perhaps i have to do something ?
15:33	* Calinou	is running minetest in virtualbox; runs quite good, sound works, but mouse input is very buggy
15:33	Calinou	cornernote, you cannot craft in creative
15:33	Calinou	put the papyrus in crafting grid
15:33	cornernote	i went back in with non-creative
15:34	cornernote	whats a crafting grid ?
15:34	Calinou	tip: do not use creative
15:34	Calinou	use /giveme instead
15:34	cornernote	ahh, ok
15:34	cornernote	let me try
15:34	Calinou	crafting grid: the 9 slots at the top of your inventory
15:34	Calinou	/giveme stone -1
15:34	Calinou	infinite-ish stack of stone
15:34	Calinou	/giveme cobble -1
15:34	Calinou	and so on
15:34	Calinou	-1 is the amount: -1 is near-infinite, 99 a full stack, etc
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15:35	cornernote	ok, i did that
15:35	cornernote	heres what i did...
15:36	cornernote	create a new world, join, /giveme papyrus -1, place 3 in a row
15:36	cornernote	nothing happens
15:36	cornernote	do i have to place them in some special location ?
15:36	Calinou	place 3 in a row in the CRAFTING GRID
15:36	Calinou	not in the worl
15:36	Calinou	world*
15:36	Calinou	obviously :)
15:36	cornernote	ok, what is a crafting grid ?
15:36	cornernote	and where can i find one ?
15:37	cornernote	oh, i see... the thing in the inventory
15:37	cornernote	ahhhh
15:37	cornernote	=)
15:37	Calinou	:)
15:37	Calinou	there is no "workbench"
15:38	cornernote	ok, i got it now... thanks!
15:38	cornernote	it didnt occur to me the 3x3 grid was the thing in the inventory
15:39	cornernote	very cool =)
15:40	cornernote	i had another question if you have a spare moment
15:40	cornernote	basically, whats the point of the game? just to build a world .. or is there some other points/pvp/etc type of element ?
15:40	Calinou	yes?
15:40	Calinou	minetest is a "sandbox" game
15:40	Calinou	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_world
15:40	Calinou	there is no "goal"
15:41	Calinou	you can build whatever you want.
15:41	Calinou	the latest 0.4 version has no mobs
15:41	Calinou	the stable 0.3.1 version has mobs
15:41	cornernote	ok, i might try the stable one then, for a looksee
15:41	cornernote	do people share their maps ?
15:44	jordach	yes
15:44	cornernote	do you have any that i could have a look at ?
15:45	cornernote	would love to see some nice buildings and landscapes
15:47	Calinou	cornernote, http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=12
15:47	Calinou	custom maps forum
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15:51	VanessaE	that reminds me, did you try the newer version of my test track? :-)
15:51	VanessaE	also, hi all
15:51	Anelisa	hi
15:51	VanessaE	hi Anelisa
15:51	Anelisa	^^
15:52	Anelisa	I'm trying to install the version 0.4 u_u
15:52	cornernote	are there any good vehicle mods ?
15:52	cornernote	let me rephrase...
15:53	VanessaE	cornernote: minecarts is about it right now, and that one's buggy
15:53	cornernote	whats the best one to try
15:53	Anelisa	A person have test a mod toilet ?
15:53	Anelisa	xDD
15:53	VanessaE	Anelisa: such a mod exists ('teleporting toilets', part of "3d Forniture")
15:53	VanessaE	(I think)
15:54	Anelisa	@_@
15:55	Anelisa	VannessaE; I have see you're torch animation, it's just amazing !
15:55	VanessaE	thanks :-)
15:56	Anelisa	Where i can found mese ?
15:56	VanessaE	just dig down for a while, below -128m I think
15:57	Anelisa	thanks ! :)
15:58	Anelisa	but monsters live around mese, no ?
15:59	VanessaE	no
15:59	Calinou	hey Anelisa
15:59	Anelisa	okay
15:59	VanessaE	no monsters in 0.4 (they'll come back later)
15:59	Anelisa	hi Calinou ! :)
15:59	* Calinou	installed debian testing in virtualbox
15:59	Anelisa	I'm 0.3.1 ;(
15:59	VanessaE	dont
15:59	Calinou	works; free drivers works, using XFCE, desktop effects works, MT works (20-40FPS, amazing)
15:59	cornernote	most mods work in 0.4? or i need to run 0.3 ?
15:59	VanessaE	don't use 0.3, it's outdated anyway
15:59	Calinou	0.3.1 has (fun) mobs
15:59	VanessaE	and it does not run mods.
15:59	Calinou	cornernote, mods do not work with 0.3
16:00	Calinou	only 0.4
16:00	VanessaE	(note: mod != mob)
16:00	Anelisa	u_u i understand nothing now, it's to complicate the english...
16:00	VanessaE	Anelisa: 0.3.x has monsters and creatures, but can't run extended content mods such as animated torches and the like.
16:01	VanessaE	0.4 can run extended content but lacks any sort of monsters.
16:01	VanessaE	(there is a mod for it, "Animals" that adds some creatures)
16:01	Calinou	lua implementations of mobs suck
16:01	Calinou	because the modders are too lazy to do some C++
16:01	Anelisa	VannesaE; i know ! ;)
16:01	Calinou	before the modding API existed, people did stuff in C++ actually
16:01	Anelisa	Calinou Ã§a marche toujours pas ! ;(
16:02	VanessaE	Calinou: fat lotta good that does if c55 won't integrate those changes anymore
16:02	Calinou	Anelisa, :\|
16:02	Calinou	Anelisa, tu as installÃ© teamviewer?
16:02	Anelisa	non.... u_u
16:03	Anelisa	mais c'est avec webcam ?
16:03	Calinou	non
16:03	Calinou	google, et vois
16:03	Anelisa	je dois tÃ©lÃ©charger quelle version ?_?
16:04	Anelisa	J'ai pris Linux 32 bit
16:05	Anelisa	enfin celle-ci Suse (32-Bit);
16:05	Calinou	euh non
16:05	Calinou	t'es sur ubuntu pas suse
16:05	Anelisa	ah wÃ©Ã©
16:05	Anelisa	Debian, Ubuntu (32-Bit) alors ?
16:05	Calinou	oui
16:05	Calinou	Ã©videmment
16:06	Anelisa	buug; lag
16:07	Calinou	huh?
16:07	Anelisa	voilÃ , installÃ©e...
16:08	Anelisa	enfin Ã§a charge ! hÃ©hÃ©
16:08	cornernote	should this work ... /giveme Coal -1 ?
16:08	Anelisa	c'est bon !!
16:09	cornernote	i get, cannot give unknown item
16:09	Anelisa	c'est quoi ton ID calinou ?_?
16:09	Calinou	regarde le message privÃ© que j'ai envoyÃ©
16:09	Calinou	cornernote, lumps are kinda... bitchy with /giveme
16:10	Calinou	it's /giveme default:coal_lump
16:10	Calinou	default: is the mod prefix of the "default" mod content
16:13	cornernote	im trying to craft the 1st item in madblocks: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3305557107
16:13	cornernote	i dont understand how to mix the coal+leaves to get the box of leaves
16:16	Calinou	madblocks, meh
16:16	Calinou	it's complicated; I advise not to install it if you're a newcomer
16:16	Calinou	instead you could try simpler mods like moreblocks ;)
16:17	cornernote	ok, i'll check it out
16:17	cornernote	i dont mind getting my hands dirty, i have coded simple lua stuff before, and im a php coder by profession
16:18	cornernote	just reading through the madblocks cradts.lua
16:18	cornernote	see if i can figure it out from the code
16:18	VanessaE	"complicated" doesn't quite fit
16:18	VanessaE	"insane" is more like it ;-)
16:19	* Calinou	made popular mods such as moreblocks, moreores, maptools, doorsplus, stairsplus and texture pack conversions.
16:19	Calinou	I have no real programming experience.
16:19	Calinou	:]
16:19	cornernote	Calinou, nice! =)
16:19	Calinou	well I know some lua obviously
16:19	Calinou	I suck at C(++)
16:19	VanessaE	my contributions include not-so-popular homedecor, poisonivy, animatedtorches, and photorealistic texture packs
16:19	Calinou	and basic knowledge of HTML and stuff of course
16:20	VanessaE	Calinou: updates to texture packs and my test track btw. get! ;-)
16:20	cornernote	Calinou, with crafring in moreblocks... you dont list all 9 positions... where do i start ?
16:20	cornernote	top left ?
16:21	jordach	VanessaE, i made the super popular wool mod
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16:22	VanessaE	wool sucks. it doesn't use my unified dyes mod ;-)
16:22	jordach	VanessaE, i play my own game how i like it
16:22	jordach	oh, btw: newxt 16 will support it
16:22	jordach	(32 was a test and will not be used)
16:23	VanessaE	heh, ookay
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16:25	cornernote	how do you cook ?
16:26	VanessaE	build a furnace, put the material to be smelted in the top left slot, and fuel in the bottom left
16:26	VanessaE	a furnace can be built like:
16:26	VanessaE	C C C
16:26	VanessaE	C - C
16:26	VanessaE	C C C
16:26	VanessaE	where C = cobblestone
16:26	Calinou	note: you cannot compile cobblestone code, sorry
16:27	Calinou	VanessaE, :D
16:27	VanessaE	?
16:27	Calinou	"<VanessaE> where C = cobblestone"
16:27	VanessaE	haha
16:27	VanessaE	well as old as C is, it may as well be stone...as in stone-age :-)
16:28	cornernote	wow.. cool !!! =)
16:33	cornernote	once you install like 500 mods (like i can see myself doing) .. anyone got a good way to keep track of all the recipies ?
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16:33	VanessaE	nope :-)
16:34	Anelisa	Hm, a person have install the version 0.4 with Ubuntu 12.04 ??
16:34	VanessaE	there IS a mod to add a special creative-mode chest that will give you access to all of your mods' items, but it doesn't work for me.
16:34	cornernote	pen and paper then i guess
16:34	VanessaE	Anelisa: I use Ubuntu (Xubuntu) 12.04 with my own build of minetest.
16:35	VanessaE	there is a PPA you can add (linked to from the main minetest website) also
16:35	Anelisa	But you have install minetest 0.4 with or not ??
16:35	VanessaE	yes
16:36	Anelisa	You don't have any problem with ?
16:36	VanessaE	I use the most recent update
16:36	VanessaE	no problems that others don't have with their installs
16:36	Anelisa	well, i'm lost.
16:37	VanessaE	(so I get some lag from time to time, and certain events will crash it, but mostly it works fine)
16:38	Anelisa	yeah, but me Minetest don't work....
16:39	Calinou	VanessaE, told them to use the ppa
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17:10	cy1	VanessaE: hey I found where it rotates drops to face the player. You wanted that removed?
17:13	* Anelisa	have the new version of Minetest !!!
17:14	VanessaE	?
17:15	Anelisa	I have the 0.4 !
17:16	VanessaE	cy1: you mean dropped items -> sprites?
17:17	cy1	VanessaE: clientCAOs...
17:18	VanessaE	confused
17:19	cy1	Players are also sprites.
17:19	cy1	And they don't face you.
17:19	VanessaE	noooo
17:20	VanessaE	don't change that
17:20	VanessaE	player sprites rotate to face whichever way that particular player is facing
17:23	VanessaE	I
17:23	cy1	But dropped items, aka ItemCAO, rotates to face you.
17:23	VanessaE	I've been seeing some development (whose branch? I forget) wherein 3d players are being worked on again, only this time using something apparently already supported into irrlicht....quake player models
17:23	cy1	Which I like.
17:24	VanessaE	oh that
17:24	cy1	Because uh
17:24	cy1	It makes them easy to spot.
17:24	cy1	haha Quake characters in minetest
17:24	* cy1	builds a BFG out of leaves
17:24	VanessaE	now, that said, glass needs updated to use a proper 3d entity when dropped (it turns into a sprite right now)
17:25	cy1	glass... blocks?
17:25	VanessaE	nod
17:25	cy1	weird
17:25	VanessaE	go ahead, try it
17:25	VanessaE	then drop it
17:25	VanessaE	compare to a dropped cobble or dirt block
17:25	VanessaE	er... /giveme glass and then drop it :-)\
17:26	cy1	little busy atm
17:27	VanessaE	yeah yeah, excuses ;-)
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17:49	cornernote	how can i tell my current position ?
17:49	VanessaE	F5
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18:28	emspri	does someone know why xyz is not online for 4 days ??
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18:43	Anelisa	hi again
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19:06	dundundun	which server has a library of the server's rules?
19:06	dundundun	it's above the water and the floor is tiled with glass
19:07	VanessaE	ecube's I think
19:07	VanessaE	no that isn't it
19:09	Calinou	ecube = lag
19:09	VanessaE	anything using current git = lag :(
19:09	VanessaE	(though I dunno if ecube's does)
19:10	VanessaE	30001 just shit the bed :(
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19:11	marktraceur	Gorram networking
19:12	marktraceur	What'd I miss
19:12	VanessaE	everything
19:12	marktraceur	Damn it! I knew that would happen.
19:12	Calinou	hi
19:12	Calinou	yes, everything
19:12	Calinou	<VanessaE> anything using current git = lag :(
19:12	Calinou	nope
19:13	Calinou	redcrab's doesn't
19:13	VanessaE	C55 came back, made three new releases, I releases 2 new texture packs, Calinou's got a few new mods on the block, mesecons got massive updates, 3d mobs/players were added...
19:13	VanessaE	or at least, all in my mind they were ;-)
19:13	marktraceur	If only....
19:13	VanessaE	Calinou: then wtf is xyz doing so wrongly with 30001?
19:13	Calinou	"3d mobs/players were added..." < no
19:14	VanessaE	I mean it lags ALL to hell
19:14	Calinou	VanessaE, dunno.
19:14	Calinou	maybe due to his random hacks
19:14	Calinou	marktraceur, I installed debian testing over vbox on my windows computer :P
19:14	Calinou	I ran minetest on it. 15-40FPS. free drivers.
19:14	marktraceur	Calinou: Nice! In a virtual machine, that's amazing stuff
19:15	Calinou	I have a good computer
19:15	Calinou	however, mouse input is buggy in MT
19:15	marktraceur	nod
19:15	Calinou	the mouse is very weird - goes up continously
19:15	marktraceur	Really? That's very strange
19:15	Calinou	yep, making MT unplayable in the VM.
19:15	Calinou	also I use xfce with debian
19:15	Calinou	it's pretty nice and good looking.
19:15	Calinou	desktop effects work
19:16	marktraceur	I wouldn't run games inside a VM, that can cause a lot of problems
19:16	Calinou	I know :P didn't install it to play games
19:16	cornernote	thanks guys for your help
19:16	cornernote	i have a much better understanding of the game and will have a lot of fun with the kids tomorrow
19:16	Calinou	:D no problem
19:17	marktraceur	cornernote: What are you up to?
19:18	Calinou	he asked for help 4 hours ago, he had no clue about how the game works :P
19:18	Calinou	as in playing
19:18	marktraceur	Oh
19:18	marktraceur	Kids?
19:18	Calinou	that's what pedobear said
19:19	marktraceur	Thanks, very helpful
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19:25	Calinou	since when jokes are helpful? :3
19:26	marktraceur	They aren't, that was sarcasm
19:27	Calinou	I know :P
19:27	Calinou	this is why I said that
19:34	ecube	who called me
19:35	VanessaE	thou hast been summoned :-)
19:38	Calinou	the lagger has been summoned
19:38	VanessaE	well, one of two :-)
19:40	Calinou	why?
19:41	VanessaE	why what?
19:53	dundundun	<VanessaE> ecube's I think
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19:53	dundundun	<VanessaE> no that isn't it
19:53	dundundun	i'll never find my locked chest :(
19:53	VanessaE	sowwy
19:59	dundundun	s'okay
20:02	emspri	hi all :D
20:03	VanessaE	hi
20:07	marktraceur	emspri: Howdy!
20:07	cy1	dundundun: ecube's server actually exists again??
20:07	dundundun	cy1, i don't know, does it?
20:08	emspri	mart hi how are u
20:08	emspri	marktraceur
20:08	dundundun	empiri?!
20:08	emspri	emspri !!
20:08	emspri	XD
20:08	emspri	hi dundundun
20:08	dundundun	the only server i frequent now is something.ru
20:09	dundundun	don't remember what's something
20:09	emspri	marktraceur did you hear something about thexyz ??
20:09	marktraceur	emspri: What about him?
20:10	dundundun	oh maaan, i'm still hanging at 191.5
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20:27	Ririshi	Hey.
20:29	marktraceur	Ririshi: Hi!
20:29	marktraceur	(also, WTF was emspri on about?)
20:29	Ririshi	marktraceur: Heyy!
20:30	marktraceur	Ririshi: Did you have a question? Or just hanging out?
20:30	Ririshi	Nah just hanging out :D
20:31	marktraceur	All righty then
20:35	cy1	ho ho ho
20:36	cy1	so I figured out the why see yourself on server :3
20:36		Ririshi joined #minetest
20:36	cy1	and the how do have nickname
20:36	Ririshi	Hey
20:36	cy1	all I need is to test an old client to make sure it still works w/ new server!
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20:47	thefamilygrog66	is the minetest.ru server down for maintenance?
20:47	marktraceur	VanessaE: ^
20:52	marktraceur	thefamilygrog66: No reply yet, please be patient
20:52	thefamilygrog66	no worries, thanks
20:56	marktraceur	darkrose: When you were on around 13:00 GMT, did you see any slowness at all?
21:00	Ririshi	so how are you guys? ;p
21:12	cy1	hm, a few coding problems... stupid item serialization version thingy...
21:12	cy1	Ririshi: It's a brand new day!
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21:27	jordach\|tablet	sup
21:40	Ririshi	heya
21:41	jordach\|tablet	so, whats happenes
21:43	Ririshi	nothing? XD
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21:44	jordach\|tablet	hi vanessae
21:45	Ririshi	:-D
21:46	Ririshi	cyl: it is indeed.
21:47	Ririshi	IÂ´m off.
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21:54	VanessaE	ugh... who beat me up? :(
21:54	marktraceur	VanessaE: Somebody wondered if minetest.ru was down
21:54	marktraceur	But apparently left
21:56	VanessaE	that was thefamilygrog.. nice guy. 30001 seems to be okay now, but it was sure a mess earlier
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22:16	marktraceur	Shout-out: http://blog.marktraceur.info/blog/2012/addons-extensions-mods.html
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22:58	marktraceur	All right, agenda for the day: Work on nature, then on farming, get that shit cleaned up, deploy at least one of them on marktraceur.info:30000
22:59	jordach\|tablet	is it like a boss
22:59	marktraceur	jordach\|tablet: I'd say....like a mid-level manager
22:59	marktraceur	Or maybe like a board member
23:00	marktraceur	No real immediate power, but presumably they do something important
23:00	jordach\|tablet	ceo?
23:00	marktraceur	That's kinda my goal, here: Do something important, but not necessarily with immediate effect
23:00	jordach\|tablet	yeo
23:01	marktraceur	jordach\|tablet: Your keyboard appears to be failing
23:01	jordach\|tablet	TABLET IS EQUAL TO TABLET
23:02	marktraceur	jordach\|tablet: Your statement is ambiguous--are you assigning "TABLET" to the variable "TABLET", or testing their equality?
23:03	marktraceur	(muahahaha programming jokes)
23:03	VanessaE	mark: don't forget my mods of course ;-)
23:03	VanessaE	(if you're installing nature, you may as well install homedecor, which recommends unifieddyes, which depends on flowers)
23:04	jordach\|tablet	equality, Because bird is equal or Greater then the word
23:04	jordach\|tablet	and surfin bird
23:04	VanessaE	nonono, bird is exactly equal to the word.
23:04	marktraceur	VanessaE: The only thing I have of yours on my list is animated torches, making them a bit more general. Actually, if you have a link to a repo for that, it would be t3h helpfulzor
23:04	jordach\|tablet	dont make this harder than it already is
23:05	VanessaE	no repos for the mods
23:05	VanessaE	just zips and raw directories
23:05	* marktraceur	sighs
23:05	marktraceur	Fine, zip file
23:05	VanessaE	(see http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest )
23:05	marktraceur	VanessaE: What's running that site?
23:06	VanessaE	it's hostgator, so probably some random linux box :-)
23:06	marktraceur	I guess you can't access the shell, then. Mrr.
23:07	VanessaE	never tried actually
23:07	VanessaE	but probably not.
23:07	VanessaE	I usually use rsync to keep the website's files up-to-date if that tells you anything.
23:08	marktraceur	Not really, I think rsync works over FTP
23:09	VanessaE	ssh actually.
23:09	VanessaE	(at least, I use that mode anyway)
23:09	marktraceur	Oh
23:09	marktraceur	Well, that means you have shell access
23:09	marktraceur	Maybe not root, though
23:09	VanessaE	hrm, I should try it
23:10	VanessaE	nope, no shell.
23:11	jordach\|tablet	trolololololigator
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23:12	marktraceur	VanessaE: I'd appreciate some unified repository, and in any case, I intended to do nature and farming first
23:12	VanessaE	I'll move them to github at some point
23:13	NakedFury	that was a nice article
23:15	marktraceur	NakedFury: Thanks!
23:15	marktraceur	(me, right?)
23:17	marktraceur	Hm, maybe only flowers mod from the nature pack, since my intent is to add farming to the server
23:19	NakedFury	farming would be appreciated
23:21	marktraceur	I agree :)
23:25	marktraceur	Working now on flowers
23:27	marktraceur	Oh, this is actually really nice
23:27	marktraceur	By ironzorg, he did a good job
23:42	marktraceur	Oh, wait
23:42	marktraceur	Checking a 30^3 diameter is maybe not so great
23:46	FreeFull	Probably not
23:47	FreeFull	It's only 27000 blocks
23:47	marktraceur	FreeFull: I sure hope not, that would be a lot of nodes
23:48	marktraceur	FreeFull: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=code:data_structures
23:48	VanessaE	use the code in my poison ivy mod. I got rid of that radius check
23:48	marktraceur	VanessaE: Git repo? :D
23:48	VanessaE	they'll grow anywhere there's dirt
23:48	marktraceur	Just kidding, I'll find it
23:48	VanessaE	get the code from dac.com like I linked :-)
23:49	marktraceur	Hm, you're still using a silly way of randomization
23:49	marktraceur	register_abm does have that built in, you know :P
23:49	VanessaE	blame ironzorg - I used his code as a basis ;-)
23:49	marktraceur	I do blame him, though not for much
23:50	marktraceur	This is a lot better than moreores was
23:51	marktraceur	You also get bonus points for mostly-correct indentation
23:51	marktraceur	ironzorg had some inconsistencies
23:52	VanessaE	"mostly correct"
23:52	VanessaE	gee thanks :-)
23:53	marktraceur	I haven't read the entire code of poisonivy, but it looks a hell of a lot better
23:53	marktraceur	ironzorg had unindented blocks, spaces mixed with tabs....OCD nightmare
23:55	VanessaE	now go look at home decor, but grab your nitroglycerin first. :-)
23:56	VanessaE	haha
23:58	marktraceur	VanessaE: First, commit and push to gitorious, then on to farming

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