Time  Nick            Message
02:10 NakedFury       is the program geany set for lua?
03:22 marktraceur     NakedFury: I think you need to enable a plugin for it
03:34 marktraceur     Has anyone figured out how to use joysticks with Minetest?
03:37 VanessaE        never tried, but it seems like it would be a little difficult
03:40 marktraceur     It is :(
03:50 VanessaE        well I meant it would be a little hard to play in that state
03:55 NakedFury       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xpadder
03:55 NakedFury       try that
03:56 NakedFury       have not tried it yet but since you asked I started looking
03:56 NakedFury       hmmm you have to pay
03:57 NakedFury       http://www-en.jtksoft.net/
03:58 NakedFury       JoyToKey- play games with your favorite joystick
03:59 NakedFury       http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/ QJoyPad, a simple Linux/QT program that lets you use your gaming devices where you want them: in your games!
03:59 NakedFury       you might like the last one. linux and free in the same sentence
04:01 NakedFury       marktraceur: now I invoke you so you know this information is here.
05:25 marktraceur     Success! Joystick works with QJoyPai
05:25 marktraceur     s/Pai/Pad/
05:25 marktraceur     And proof: Typing with joypad
05:26 marktraceur     itsawwdssadwasdwas41234565jeeeejj
05:27 VanessaE        cool
05:27 marktraceur     It could almost be useful
05:27 VanessaE        "almost" heh
05:27 marktraceur     VanessaE: You're right, it will take some getting used to
05:32 marktraceur     I feel like this might be most useful in combat, not so much in mining
05:51 marktraceur     Are there Debian packages available for the latest 0.4 versions?
06:10 VanessaE        dunno, but if you want an AMD64 build for xubuntu 12.04, I have one handy :-)
06:11 VanessaE        (actually, there IS a daily builds PPA which might be up-to-date also)
06:23 marktraceur     Hm.
06:24 marktraceur     I ask because the FSF is looking into hosting a server, but they want a "proper" package
06:24 marktraceur     I want to use 0.4, since 0.3 is so outdated
06:28 VanessaE        my AMD64 build seems proper enough
06:28 VanessaE        but whatever :-)
06:31 marktraceur     VanessaE: Hosted somewhere? I'll post it.
06:31 VanessaE        one sec, I'll upload it
06:31 marktraceur     Awesomesauce
06:32 marktraceur     I'd also accept the PPA, do you have the link?
06:32 VanessaE        not handy, but I think it's linked to from the main site
06:33 VanessaE        http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/minetestc55_0.4-20120627-1_amd64.deb
06:33 VanessaE        try that
06:33 VanessaE        it's compiled with only the usual set of dependencies.
06:33 VanessaE        (global install, not run-in-place)
06:34 marktraceur     VanessaE: Noted, thanks
06:35 VanessaE        no prob
06:35 VanessaE        enjoy :-)
06:35 marktraceur     I'll link the LibrePlanet list to both
06:35 VanessaE        suggest you move it to a more permanent location; that's really more of a cache folder.  I clean it out every so often
06:35 marktraceur     Hrm.
06:36 VanessaE        (but I'll keep it in place if you need me to)
06:36 marktraceur     No, I got it
06:38 marktraceur     You can clear it out now
06:45 VanessaE        no worries, I'm too lazy to clean up right now ;-)
06:48 marktraceur     darkrose: http://marktraceur.info/shared/images/minetest/map.png
06:49 darkrose        heh, my little house is kinda big :)
06:49 marktraceur     Agreed, but what's the red?
06:49 darkrose        apparently sandstone is red?
06:49 marktraceur     Ah
06:49 marktraceur     K, makes sense
06:50 darkrose        not really, it's sort of a dull gold
06:52 VanessaE        desert stone I think
06:53 VanessaE        no that's not right either
06:53 * VanessaE      shrugs
06:53 darkrose        on the actual map it's sandstone
06:53 VanessaE        right
06:53 VanessaE        wish c55 were around, I'd happily devise and submit an updated colors file
06:54 marktraceur     VanessaE: Or he could pull the patch that auto-generates it
06:55 VanessaE        or do that :-)
08:13 jordach|tablet  morninG
08:15 jordach|tablet  brb, going to use my pc in a min
09:02 cy1             huh...
09:02 cy1             so...
09:02 cy1             everything compiles
09:02 cy1             can run the server and the client
09:02 cy1             and login w/ pubkey
09:02 cy1             but you see yourself like another player in the game
09:03 cy1             so you see a guy overlapping you making all the same movements sorta
09:03 cy1             I guess that's worth committing!
09:19 cy1             so uh
09:19 cy1             https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-core
09:19 cy1             good night
09:38 Calinou         sfan5, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29996#p29996
09:38 Calinou         delete: offtopic, spam
09:38 Calinou         and spoonfeeding request too
09:40 brobostigon     good morning everyone.
09:43 jordach         Calinou, back to building my sonic the hedgehog textures (mainly mega drive based)
11:29 Ririshi         Hey all.
11:30 Ririshi         My friend asked me if you could join his server: 83.163.67.27 is his ip. The server is not always online.
13:25 * Calinou       is installing debian testing on virtualbox
14:21 ChatHeure       Bonjour, il y a des utilisateurs francophone ici ?
14:22 ChatHeure       I don't understand how crafting...
14:32 ChatHeure       bye!
15:24 Calinou         installed debian testing!
15:24 Calinou         now cloning MT git
15:25 cornernote      hi
15:25 cornernote      im new to minetest, and also new to minecraft... love the game and have been playing it with my kids all day
15:26 cornernote      we have just been building in creative mode, so im trying to understand the "actual" game...
15:26 cornernote      i see you can craft, but i cant see how to do it in game
15:26 Calinou         hi!
15:27 Calinou         http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting
15:27 Calinou         all crafting recipes
15:27 Calinou         cornernote, if you installed minetest on linux (self-compiled), don't forget to install minetest_game repo!
15:27 Calinou         if you used git
15:27 cornernote      hi Calinou, thanks, i saw that... but i dont know how to do it in game... eg, i put 3 papyrus in a line, then nothing happens
15:28 cornernote      shouldnt it make paper ?
15:28 Calinou         then you are using the "minimal" game.
15:28 cornernote      im playing on windows :(
15:28 Calinou         oh okay
15:28 Calinou         cornernote, when you start a new world, choose "minetest game"
15:28 Calinou         not "minimal"
15:28 cornernote      ok, will try now
15:29 cornernote      ok, then i'll join with creative mode, so i can get some papyrus
15:30 cornernote      ok, then i harvested it in non-creative mode
15:31 cornernote      then i put it on the grond, 3 next to each other
15:31 cornernote      now nothing happens
15:31 cornernote      i expect they should turn into paper
15:31 cornernote      but perhaps i have to do something ?
15:33 * Calinou       is running minetest in virtualbox; runs quite good, sound works, but mouse input is very buggy
15:33 Calinou         cornernote, you cannot craft in creative
15:33 Calinou         put the papyrus in crafting grid
15:33 cornernote      i went back in with non-creative
15:34 cornernote      whats a crafting grid ?
15:34 Calinou         tip: do not use creative
15:34 Calinou         use /giveme instead
15:34 cornernote      ahh, ok
15:34 cornernote      let me try
15:34 Calinou         crafting grid: the 9 slots at the top of your inventory
15:34 Calinou         /giveme stone -1
15:34 Calinou         infinite-ish stack of stone
15:34 Calinou         /giveme cobble -1
15:34 Calinou         and so on
15:34 Calinou         -1 is the amount: -1 is near-infinite, 99 a full stack, etc
15:35 cornernote      ok, i did that
15:35 cornernote      heres what i did...
15:36 cornernote      create a new world, join, /giveme papyrus -1, place 3 in a row
15:36 cornernote      nothing happens
15:36 cornernote      do i have to place them in some special location ?
15:36 Calinou         place 3 in a row in the CRAFTING GRID
15:36 Calinou         not in the worl
15:36 Calinou         world*
15:36 Calinou         obviously :)
15:36 cornernote      ok, what is a crafting grid ?
15:36 cornernote      and where can i find one ?
15:37 cornernote      oh, i see... the thing in the inventory
15:37 cornernote      ahhhh
15:37 cornernote      =)
15:37 Calinou         :)
15:37 Calinou         there is no "workbench"
15:38 cornernote      ok, i got it now... thanks!
15:38 cornernote      it didnt occur to me the 3x3 grid was the thing in the inventory
15:39 cornernote      very cool =)
15:40 cornernote      i had another question if you have a spare moment
15:40 cornernote      basically, whats the point of the game?  just to build a world .. or is there some other points/pvp/etc type of element ?
15:40 Calinou         yes?
15:40 Calinou         minetest is a "sandbox" game
15:40 Calinou         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_world
15:40 Calinou         there is no "goal"
15:41 Calinou         you can build whatever you want.
15:41 Calinou         the latest 0.4 version has no mobs
15:41 Calinou         the stable 0.3.1 version has mobs
15:41 cornernote      ok, i might try the stable one then, for a looksee
15:41 cornernote      do people share their maps ?
15:44 jordach         yes
15:44 cornernote      do you have any that i could have a look at ?
15:45 cornernote      would love to see some nice buildings and landscapes
15:47 Calinou         cornernote, http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=12
15:47 Calinou         custom maps forum
15:51 VanessaE        that reminds me, did you try the newer version of my test track? :-)
15:51 VanessaE        also, hi all
15:51 Anelisa         hi
15:51 VanessaE        hi Anelisa
15:51 Anelisa         ^^
15:52 Anelisa         I'm trying to install the version 0.4 u_u
15:52 cornernote      are there any good vehicle mods ?
15:52 cornernote      let me rephrase...
15:53 VanessaE        cornernote: minecarts is about it right now, and that one's buggy
15:53 cornernote      whats the best one to try
15:53 Anelisa         A person have test a mod toilet ?
15:53 Anelisa         xDD
15:53 VanessaE        Anelisa: such a mod exists ('teleporting toilets', part of "3d Forniture")
15:53 VanessaE        (I think)
15:54 Anelisa         @_@
15:55 Anelisa         VannessaE; I have see you're torch animation, it's just amazing !
15:55 VanessaE        thanks :-)
15:56 Anelisa         Where i can found mese ?
15:56 VanessaE        just dig down for a while, below -128m I think
15:57 Anelisa         thanks ! :)
15:58 Anelisa         but monsters live around mese, no ?
15:59 VanessaE        no
15:59 Calinou         hey Anelisa
15:59 Anelisa         okay
15:59 VanessaE        no monsters in 0.4 (they'll come back later)
15:59 Anelisa         hi Calinou ! :)
15:59 * Calinou       installed debian testing in virtualbox
15:59 Anelisa         I'm 0.3.1 ;(
15:59 VanessaE        dont
15:59 Calinou         works; free drivers works, using XFCE, desktop effects works, MT works (20-40FPS, amazing)
15:59 cornernote      most mods work in 0.4?  or i need to run 0.3 ?
15:59 VanessaE        don't use 0.3, it's outdated anyway
15:59 Calinou         0.3.1 has (fun) mobs
15:59 VanessaE        and it does not run mods.
15:59 Calinou         cornernote, mods do not work with 0.3
16:00 Calinou         only 0.4
16:00 VanessaE        (note:  mod != mob)
16:00 Anelisa         u_u i understand nothing now, it's to complicate the english...
16:00 VanessaE        Anelisa: 0.3.x has monsters and creatures, but can't run extended content mods such as animated torches and the like.
16:01 VanessaE        0.4 can run extended content but lacks any sort of monsters.
16:01 VanessaE        (there is a mod for it, "Animals" that adds some creatures)
16:01 Calinou         lua implementations of mobs suck
16:01 Calinou         because the modders are too lazy to do some C++
16:01 Anelisa         VannesaE; i know ! ;)
16:01 Calinou         before the modding API existed, people did stuff in C++ actually
16:01 Anelisa         Calinou ça marche toujours pas ! ;(
16:02 VanessaE        Calinou: fat lotta good that does if c55 won't integrate those changes anymore
16:02 Calinou         Anelisa, :|
16:02 Calinou         Anelisa, tu as installé teamviewer?
16:02 Anelisa         non.... u_u
16:03 Anelisa         mais c'est avec webcam ?
16:03 Calinou         non
16:03 Calinou         google, et vois
16:03 Anelisa         je dois télécharger quelle version ?_?
16:04 Anelisa         J'ai pris Linux 32 bit
16:05 Anelisa         enfin celle-ci 	Suse (32-Bit);
16:05 Calinou         euh non
16:05 Calinou         t'es sur ubuntu pas suse
16:05 Anelisa         ah wéé
16:05 Anelisa         Debian, Ubuntu (32-Bit) alors ?
16:05 Calinou         oui
16:05 Calinou         évidemment
16:06 Anelisa         buug; lag
16:07 Calinou         huh?
16:07 Anelisa         voilà, installée...
16:08 Anelisa         enfin ça charge ! héhé
16:08 cornernote      should this work ... /giveme Coal -1   ?
16:08 Anelisa         c'est bon !!
16:09 cornernote      i get, cannot give unknown item
16:09 Anelisa         c'est quoi ton ID calinou ?_?
16:09 Calinou         regarde le message privé que j'ai envoyé
16:09 Calinou         cornernote, lumps are kinda... bitchy with /giveme
16:10 Calinou         it's /giveme default:coal_lump
16:10 Calinou         default: is the mod prefix of the "default" mod content
16:13 cornernote      im trying to craft the 1st item in madblocks:  http://www.zimg.eu/i/3305557107
16:13 cornernote      i dont understand how to mix the coal+leaves to get the box of leaves
16:16 Calinou         madblocks, meh
16:16 Calinou         it's complicated; I advise not to install it if you're a newcomer
16:16 Calinou         instead you could try simpler mods like moreblocks ;)
16:17 cornernote      ok, i'll check it out
16:17 cornernote      i dont mind getting my hands dirty, i have coded simple lua stuff before, and im a php coder by profession
16:18 cornernote      just reading through the madblocks cradts.lua
16:18 cornernote      see if i can figure it out from the code
16:18 VanessaE        "complicated" doesn't quite fit
16:18 VanessaE        "insane" is more like it ;-)
16:19 * Calinou       made popular mods such as moreblocks, moreores, maptools, doorsplus, stairsplus and texture pack conversions.
16:19 Calinou         I have no real programming experience.
16:19 Calinou         :]
16:19 cornernote      Calinou, nice! =)
16:19 Calinou         well I know some lua obviously
16:19 Calinou         I suck at C(++)
16:19 VanessaE        my contributions include not-so-popular homedecor, poisonivy, animatedtorches, and photorealistic texture packs
16:19 Calinou         and basic knowledge of HTML and stuff of course
16:20 VanessaE        Calinou: updates to texture packs and my test track btw.  get! ;-)
16:20 cornernote      Calinou, with crafring in moreblocks... you dont list all 9 positions... where do i start ?
16:20 cornernote      top left ?
16:21 jordach         VanessaE, i made the super popular wool mod
16:22 VanessaE        wool sucks.  it doesn't use my unified dyes mod ;-)
16:22 jordach         VanessaE, i play my own game how i like it
16:22 jordach         oh, btw: newxt 16 will support it
16:22 jordach         (32 was a test and will not be used)
16:23 VanessaE        heh, ookay
16:25 cornernote      how do you cook ?
16:26 VanessaE        build a furnace, put the material to be smelted in the top left slot, and fuel in the bottom left
16:26 VanessaE        a furnace can be built like:
16:26 VanessaE        C C C
16:26 VanessaE        C - C
16:26 VanessaE        C C C
16:26 VanessaE        where C = cobblestone
16:26 Calinou         note: you cannot compile cobblestone code, sorry
16:27 Calinou         VanessaE, :D
16:27 VanessaE        ?
16:27 Calinou         "<VanessaE> where C = cobblestone"
16:27 VanessaE        haha
16:27 VanessaE        well as old as C is, it may as well be stone...as in stone-age :-)
16:28 cornernote      wow.. cool !!! =)
16:33 cornernote      once you install like 500 mods (like i can see myself doing) .. anyone got a good way to keep track of all the recipies ?
16:33 VanessaE        nope :-)
16:34 Anelisa         Hm, a person have install the version 0.4 with Ubuntu 12.04 ??
16:34 VanessaE        there IS a mod to add a special creative-mode chest that will give you access to all of your mods' items, but it doesn't work for me.
16:34 cornernote      pen and paper then i guess
16:34 VanessaE        Anelisa: I use Ubuntu (Xubuntu) 12.04 with my own build of minetest.
16:35 VanessaE        there is a PPA you can add (linked to from the main minetest website) also
16:35 Anelisa         But you have install minetest 0.4 with or not ??
16:35 VanessaE        yes
16:36 Anelisa         You don't have any problem with ?
16:36 VanessaE        I use the most recent update
16:36 VanessaE        no problems that others don't have with their installs
16:36 Anelisa         well, i'm lost.
16:37 VanessaE        (so I get some lag from time to time, and certain events will crash it, but mostly it works fine)
16:38 Anelisa         yeah, but me Minetest don't work....
16:39 Calinou         VanessaE, told them to use the ppa
17:10 cy1             VanessaE: hey I found where it rotates drops to face the player. You wanted that removed?
17:13 * Anelisa       have the new version of Minetest !!!
17:14 VanessaE        ?
17:15 Anelisa         I have the 0.4 !
17:16 VanessaE        cy1: you mean dropped items -> sprites?
17:17 cy1             VanessaE: clientCAOs...
17:18 VanessaE        *confused*
17:19 cy1             Players are also sprites.
17:19 cy1             And they don't face you.
17:19 VanessaE        noooo
17:20 VanessaE        don't change that
17:20 VanessaE        player sprites rotate to face whichever way that particular player is facing
17:23 VanessaE        I
17:23 cy1             But dropped items, aka ItemCAO, rotates to face you.
17:23 VanessaE        I've been seeing some development (whose branch? I forget) wherein 3d players are being worked on again, only this time using something apparently already supported into irrlicht....quake player models
17:23 cy1             Which I like.
17:24 VanessaE        oh that
17:24 cy1             Because uh
17:24 cy1             It makes them easy to spot.
17:24 cy1             haha Quake characters in minetest
17:24 * cy1           builds a BFG out of leaves
17:24 VanessaE        now, that said, glass needs updated to use a proper 3d entity when dropped (it turns into a sprite right now)
17:25 cy1             glass... blocks?
17:25 VanessaE        *nod*
17:25 cy1             weird
17:25 VanessaE        go ahead, try it
17:25 VanessaE        then drop it
17:25 VanessaE        compare to a dropped cobble or dirt block
17:25 VanessaE        er...  /giveme glass and then drop it :-)\
17:26 cy1             little busy atm
17:27 VanessaE        yeah yeah, excuses ;-)
17:49 cornernote      how can i tell my current position ?
17:49 VanessaE        F5
18:28 emspri          does someone know why xyz is not online for 4 days ??
18:43 Anelisa         hi again
19:06 dundundun       which server has a library of the server's rules?
19:06 dundundun       it's above the water and the floor is tiled with glass
19:07 VanessaE        ecube's I think
19:07 VanessaE        no that isn't it
19:09 Calinou         ecube = lag
19:09 VanessaE        anything using current git = lag :(
19:09 VanessaE        (though I dunno if ecube's does)
19:10 VanessaE        30001 just shit the bed :(
19:11 marktraceur     Gorram networking
19:12 marktraceur     What'd I miss
19:12 VanessaE        everything
19:12 marktraceur     Damn it! I knew that would happen.
19:12 Calinou         hi
19:12 Calinou         yes, everything
19:12 Calinou         <VanessaE> anything using current git = lag :(
19:12 Calinou         nope
19:13 Calinou         redcrab's doesn't
19:13 VanessaE        C55 came back, made three new releases, I releases 2 new texture packs, Calinou's got a few new mods on the block, mesecons got massive updates, 3d mobs/players were added...
19:13 VanessaE        or at least, all in my mind they were ;-)
19:13 marktraceur     If only....
19:13 VanessaE        Calinou: then wtf is xyz doing so wrongly with 30001?
19:13 Calinou         "3d mobs/players were added..." < no
19:14 VanessaE        I mean it lags ALL to hell
19:14 Calinou         VanessaE, dunno.
19:14 Calinou         maybe due to his random hacks
19:14 Calinou         marktraceur, I installed debian testing over vbox on my windows computer :P
19:14 Calinou         I ran minetest on it. 15-40FPS. free drivers.
19:14 marktraceur     Calinou: Nice! In a virtual machine, that's amazing stuff
19:15 Calinou         I have a good computer
19:15 Calinou         however, mouse input is buggy in MT
19:15 marktraceur     *nod*
19:15 Calinou         the mouse is very weird - goes up continously
19:15 marktraceur     Really? That's very strange
19:15 Calinou         yep, making MT unplayable in the VM.
19:15 Calinou         also I use xfce with debian
19:15 Calinou         it's pretty nice and good looking.
19:15 Calinou         desktop effects work
19:16 marktraceur     I wouldn't run games inside a VM, that can cause a lot of problems
19:16 Calinou         I know :P didn't install it to play games
19:16 cornernote      thanks guys for your help
19:16 cornernote      i have a much better understanding of the game and will have a lot of fun with the kids tomorrow
19:16 Calinou         :D no problem
19:17 marktraceur     cornernote: What are you up to?
19:18 Calinou         he asked for help 4 hours ago, he had no clue about how the game works :P
19:18 Calinou         as in playing
19:18 marktraceur     Oh
19:18 marktraceur     Kids?
19:18 Calinou         that's what pedobear said
19:19 marktraceur     Thanks, very helpful
19:25 Calinou         since when jokes are helpful? :3
19:26 marktraceur     They aren't, that was sarcasm
19:27 Calinou         I know :P
19:27 Calinou         this is why I said that
19:34 ecube           who called me
19:35 VanessaE        thou hast been summoned :-)
19:38 Calinou         the lagger has been summoned
19:38 VanessaE        well, one of two :-)
19:40 Calinou         why?
19:41 VanessaE        why what?
19:53 dundundun       <VanessaE> ecube's I think
19:53 dundundun       <VanessaE> no that isn't it
19:53 dundundun       i'll never find my locked chest :(
19:53 VanessaE        sowwy
19:59 dundundun       s'okay
20:02 emspri          hi all :D
20:03 VanessaE        hi
20:07 marktraceur     emspri: Howdy!
20:07 cy1             dundundun: ecube's server actually exists again??
20:07 dundundun       cy1, i don't know, does it?
20:08 emspri          mart hi how are u
20:08 emspri          marktraceur
20:08 dundundun       empiri?!
20:08 emspri          emspri !!
20:08 emspri          XD
20:08 emspri          hi dundundun
20:08 dundundun       the only server i frequent now is something.ru
20:09 dundundun       don't remember what's something
20:09 emspri          marktraceur did you hear something about thexyz ??
20:09 marktraceur     emspri: What about him?
20:10 dundundun       oh maaan, i'm still hanging at 191.5
20:27 Ririshi         Hey.
20:29 marktraceur     Ririshi: Hi!
20:29 marktraceur     (also, WTF was emspri on about?)
20:29 Ririshi         marktraceur: Heyy!
20:30 marktraceur     Ririshi: Did you have a question? Or just hanging out?
20:30 Ririshi         Nah just hanging out :D
20:31 marktraceur     All righty then
20:35 cy1             ho ho ho
20:36 cy1             so I figured out the why see yourself on server :3
20:36 cy1             and the how do have nickname
20:36 Ririshi         Hey
20:36 cy1             all I need is to test an old client to make sure it still works w/ new server!
20:47 thefamilygrog66 is the minetest.ru server down for maintenance?
20:47 marktraceur     VanessaE: ^
20:52 marktraceur     thefamilygrog66: No reply yet, please be patient
20:52 thefamilygrog66 no worries, thanks
20:56 marktraceur     darkrose: When you were on around 13:00 GMT, did you see any slowness at all?
21:00 Ririshi         so how are you guys? ;p
21:12 cy1             hm, a few coding problems... stupid item serialization version thingy...
21:12 cy1             Ririshi: It's a brand new day!
21:27 jordach|tablet  sup
21:40 Ririshi         heya
21:41 jordach|tablet  so, whats happenes
21:43 Ririshi         nothing? XD
21:44 jordach|tablet  hi vanessae
21:45 Ririshi         :-D
21:46 Ririshi         cyl: it is indeed.
21:47 Ririshi         I´m off.
21:54 VanessaE        ugh...  who beat me up? :(
21:54 marktraceur     VanessaE: Somebody wondered if minetest.ru was down
21:54 marktraceur     But apparently left
21:56 VanessaE        that was thefamilygrog..  nice guy.  30001 seems to be okay now, but it was sure a mess earlier
22:16 marktraceur     Shout-out: http://blog.marktraceur.info/blog/2012/addons-extensions-mods.html
22:58 marktraceur     All right, agenda for the day: Work on nature, then on farming, get that shit cleaned up, deploy at least one of them on marktraceur.info:30000
22:59 jordach|tablet  is it like a boss
22:59 marktraceur     jordach|tablet: I'd say....like a mid-level manager
22:59 marktraceur     Or maybe like a board member
23:00 marktraceur     No real immediate power, but presumably they do something important
23:00 jordach|tablet  ceo?
23:00 marktraceur     That's kinda my goal, here: Do something important, but not necessarily with immediate effect
23:00 jordach|tablet  yeo
23:01 marktraceur     jordach|tablet: Your keyboard appears to be failing
23:01 jordach|tablet  TABLET IS EQUAL TO TABLET
23:02 marktraceur     jordach|tablet: Your statement is ambiguous--are you assigning "TABLET" to the variable "TABLET", or testing their equality?
23:03 marktraceur     (muahahaha programming jokes)
23:03 VanessaE        mark: don't forget my mods of course ;-)
23:03 VanessaE        (if you're installing nature, you may as well install homedecor, which recommends unifieddyes, which depends on flowers)
23:04 jordach|tablet  equality, Because bird is equal or Greater then the word
23:04 jordach|tablet  and surfin bird
23:04 VanessaE        nonono, bird is *exactly* equal to the word.
23:04 marktraceur     VanessaE: The only thing I have of yours on my list is animated torches, making them a bit more general. Actually, if you have a link to a repo for that, it would be t3h helpfulzor
23:04 jordach|tablet  dont make this harder than it already is
23:05 VanessaE        no repos for the mods
23:05 VanessaE        just zips and raw directories
23:05 * marktraceur   sighs
23:05 marktraceur     Fine, zip file
23:05 VanessaE        (see http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest )
23:05 marktraceur     VanessaE: What's running that site?
23:06 VanessaE        it's hostgator, so probably some random linux box :-)
23:06 marktraceur     I guess you can't access the shell, then. Mrr.
23:07 VanessaE        never tried actually
23:07 VanessaE        but probably not.
23:07 VanessaE        I usually use rsync to keep the website's files up-to-date if that tells you anything.
23:08 marktraceur     Not really, I think rsync works over FTP
23:09 VanessaE        ssh actually.
23:09 VanessaE        (at least, I use that mode anyway)
23:09 marktraceur     Oh
23:09 marktraceur     Well, that means you have shell access
23:09 marktraceur     Maybe not root, though
23:09 VanessaE        hrm, I should try it
23:10 VanessaE        nope, no shell.
23:11 jordach|tablet  trolololololigator
23:12 marktraceur     VanessaE: I'd appreciate some unified repository, and in any case, I intended to do nature and farming first
23:12 VanessaE        I'll move them to github at some point
23:13 NakedFury       that was a nice article
23:15 marktraceur     NakedFury: Thanks!
23:15 marktraceur     (me, right?)
23:17 marktraceur     Hm, maybe only flowers mod from the nature pack, since my intent is to add farming to the server
23:19 NakedFury       farming would be appreciated
23:21 marktraceur     I agree :)
23:25 marktraceur     Working now on flowers
23:27 marktraceur     Oh, this is actually really nice
23:27 marktraceur     By ironzorg, he did a good job
23:42 marktraceur     Oh, wait
23:42 marktraceur     Checking a 30^3 diameter is maybe not so great
23:46 FreeFull        Probably not
23:47 FreeFull        It's only 27000 blocks
23:47 marktraceur     FreeFull: I sure hope not, that would be a lot of nodes
23:48 marktraceur     FreeFull: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=code:data_structures
23:48 VanessaE        use the code in my poison ivy mod.  I got rid of that radius check
23:48 marktraceur     VanessaE: Git repo? :D
23:48 VanessaE        they'll grow anywhere there's dirt
23:48 marktraceur     Just kidding, I'll find it
23:48 VanessaE        get the code from dac.com like I linked :-)
23:49 marktraceur     Hm, you're still using a silly way of randomization
23:49 marktraceur     register_abm does have that built in, you know :P
23:49 VanessaE        blame ironzorg - I used his code as a basis ;-)
23:49 marktraceur     I do blame him, though not for much
23:50 marktraceur     This is a *lot* better than moreores was
23:51 marktraceur     You also get bonus points for mostly-correct indentation
23:51 marktraceur     ironzorg had some inconsistencies
23:52 VanessaE        "mostly correct"
23:52 VanessaE        gee thanks :-)
23:53 marktraceur     I haven't read the entire code of poisonivy, but it *looks* a hell of a lot better
23:53 marktraceur     ironzorg had unindented blocks, spaces mixed with tabs....OCD nightmare
23:55 VanessaE        now go look at home decor, but grab your nitroglycerin first. :-)
23:56 VanessaE        haha
23:58 marktraceur     VanessaE: First, commit and push to gitorious, then on to farming