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noob |
can anyone try and get on minetest.ru port 30001 it might be my client or the server just wondering if you do see if its on thankyou :D |
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MiJyn |
hola |
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VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: use Worldedit to replace the unknown object |
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VanessaE |
(dig it once and the game will tell you what it was) |
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khonkhortisan |
I just recreated the map |
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khonkhortisan |
lua doesn't have a continue? |
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MiJyn |
I think it does khonkhortisan |
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khonkhortisan |
doesn't work fon me |
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khonkhortisan |
it thinks it's a variable |
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marktraceur |
khonkhortisan: Wrap the rest of the function in an if statement? |
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khonkhortisan |
yeah I just reverse the if that was going to continue |
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khonkhortisan |
if (a = b) == c then |
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khonkhortisan |
Should that work in lua? |
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khonkhortisan |
that's an odd effect removing all the default:dirt, the grass layer is still there |
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MiJyn |
khonkhortisan, yeah, that should work. |
02:34 |
MiJyn |
khonkhortisan, you mean that you see the grass _without_ the dirt? |
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marktraceur |
Plejanov: Found a good name yet? :) |
03:40 |
marktraceur |
Guess not :P |
03:41 |
Tukeke |
marktraceur, hello |
03:41 |
Tukeke |
xD |
03:41 |
marktraceur |
Tukeke: Happy with your choice? |
03:42 |
Tukeke |
xDD |
03:42 |
Tukeke |
ahahaha |
03:42 |
Tukeke |
yes |
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MiJyn |
Tueke, aww, Kasparov was awesome!!! |
03:51 |
* MiJyn |
is a chess nerd |
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MiJyn |
*Tukeke |
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Tukeke |
xD |
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Tukeke |
I am chess player |
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khonkhortisan |
no the grass roots keep some dirt there, but I dig the grass and have a layer of air before the stone |
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khonkhortisan |
minetest.register_on_generated() misses a big chunk where the player spawns |
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Calinou_ |
netsplit :c |
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khonkhortisan |
Calinou_: you saw it both going and coming |
08:27 |
brobostigon |
good morning everyone. |
08:33 |
Calinou_ |
hi |
08:34 |
Calinou_ |
* Calinou :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable |
08:34 |
Calinou_ |
:c |
08:35 |
brobostigon |
hi Calinou_ |
08:50 |
Calinou_ |
the entire crafting page now uses the new crafting template! :D |
08:51 |
Calinou_ |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting |
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Anelisa |
salut |
08:58 |
Calinou_ |
salut Anelisa |
08:58 |
Anelisa |
salut Calinou !! |
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fbycia |
Salut/Hello |
08:59 |
Calinou_ |
hi |
08:59 |
fbycia |
Il y a des francais ? |
08:59 |
Anelisa |
Oui :) |
09:00 |
Calinou_ |
oui |
09:00 |
Calinou_ |
n'hésite pas à regarder dans le forum: "discussion in other languages" |
09:00 |
fbycia |
ah oui ^ |
09:00 |
fbycia |
^^* |
09:01 |
fbycia |
calinou est ce que tu arrive a installer un pack de texture en 0.4 ? |
09:01 |
Calinou_ |
oui |
09:01 |
Calinou_ |
par contre: les packs de textures doivent être à jour pour la 0.4 |
09:01 |
Calinou_ |
et les textures doivent être dans le dossier "textures/all" |
09:01 |
fbycia |
oui sa je l'ai fais |
09:02 |
fbycia |
texture_path = C:\Users\alex\Desktop\minetest\textures\all |
09:02 |
fbycia |
et j'ai rajouter cette ligne au conf |
09:02 |
Anelisa |
tu t'apelle ALEX (je suis trop forte /SORT/ |
09:02 |
Calinou_ |
fbycia, pas la peine |
09:03 |
Calinou_ |
un texture_path non défini cherche automatiquement dans le dossier textures/all |
09:03 |
Calinou_ |
^^ |
09:03 |
fbycia |
ah merci |
09:03 |
fbycia |
bizarre sa amrche pas, sa vient peut etre du pack |
09:05 |
fbycia |
non toujours pas :s |
09:05 |
Calinou_ |
fbycia, quel pack? |
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Anelisa |
^^ |
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09:12 |
Anelisa |
re |
09:12 |
Anelisa |
Vous saviez que j'avais un talent pour le graphisme ? /SORT/ |
09:13 |
Anelisa |
http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120704112644212437.png |
09:14 |
Anelisa |
http://www.pixenli.com/images/mini/1341393239042791400.png |
09:15 |
Anelisa |
ah mince, http://www.pixenli.com/image1341393239042791400.html |
09:15 |
Anelisa |
voilà le dernier c'est le bon ! =) |
09:15 |
Anelisa |
bon... |
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fbycia |
désolé j'ai planter ^^ |
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09:23 |
Calinou |
page du crafting sur le wiki changée! nouveau template! :D |
09:23 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting |
09:23 |
Anelisa |
PAS MAL ! :) |
09:23 |
Anelisa |
oups |
09:26 |
Anelisa |
je viens d'apprendre à faire des Fenêtre grâce au wiki !! @_:à |
09:26 |
Anelisa |
@_@ |
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09:26 |
Calinou_ |
wow, crashy |
09:28 |
fbycia |
http://minetest.fr, qu'est ce que vous en pensez ? :) |
09:28 |
fbycia |
sans la virgule ^^ |
09:29 |
Calinou |
DERP |
09:29 |
Calinou |
HERP |
09:29 |
Calinou |
vite, alt+f4 |
09:29 |
Calinou |
> logo animé |
09:29 |
Calinou |
> je sens le site sonore |
09:30 |
fbycia |
pas du tout |
09:30 |
Calinou |
logo animé par contre; bof |
09:31 |
Calinou |
et la texture de planches de soartex... autant mettre une texture par défaut |
09:31 |
fbycia |
oui la texture du fond c'est en attendant |
09:31 |
Calinou |
"Car comme on le sait Minecraft est codé en Java, ce qui demande énormément de ressources pour les PC & Mac." |
09:31 |
Calinou |
y a un truc qui s'appelle linux |
09:31 |
Calinou |
:P |
09:32 |
Calinou |
""devellopement" > "développement" |
09:32 |
Calinou |
"concurrencé Minecraft" > "concurrencer Minecraft" |
09:32 |
fbycia |
lol oui |
09:32 |
Calinou |
"+ Le jeu fonctionne sur Windows, Linux et Mac OS X." > pas de support de mac os x sur la dernière version 0.4 |
09:32 |
Calinou |
seulement 0.3.1 et une vielle version de la 0.4 |
09:32 |
Calinou |
il y a des sons. |
09:33 |
Calinou |
(0.4) |
09:33 |
fbycia |
oui oui |
09:33 |
fbycia |
mais la je parle de la version stable de 0.3.1 |
09:33 |
Calinou |
"Voulez-vous jouer en ligne avec le créateur du jeu ?" < c55 a arrêté son serveur depuis un bout de temps ^^ |
09:33 |
fbycia |
sa amrche sous mac et sans sons |
09:33 |
fbycia |
j'ai vu sa en testant tout à l'heure |
09:34 |
* Calinou |
a 459 edits sur le wiki de minetest |
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Anelisa |
pas mal le site ! |
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09:37 |
Anelisa |
Où on trouve le mese ? |
09:38 |
fbycia |
mese ? |
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Anelisa |
ben l'or, on vas dire |
09:39 |
fbycia |
en minant sans doute ^^ |
09:40 |
Calinou |
je bosse sur un traduction en français de la documentation de l'API de mods de minetest |
09:40 |
Calinou |
1357 lignes à traduire ça va prendre du temps |
09:40 |
Calinou |
._. |
09:41 |
Calinou |
j'en suis à la ligne 24 |
09:41 |
redcrab |
Wow Calinou, merci :) |
09:41 |
Anelisa |
oui mais où ? --' |
09:41 |
Calinou |
je demanderai à c55 de le mettre sur le git, dans le dossier doc, nommé "lua_api_fr.txt" éventuellement |
09:41 |
Calinou |
Anelisa, sur mon éditeur de texte. :] |
09:42 |
Anelisa |
je look |
09:42 |
Anelisa |
il est où en faîte ? |
09:47 |
fbycia |
Oula bonne chance calinou xD |
09:47 |
Anelisa |
>__< |
09:48 |
Anelisa |
comment je me crée mon server ? |
09:48 |
Calinou |
ligne 64 :) |
09:48 |
Anelisa |
serveur |
09:48 |
Calinou |
Anelisa, éxécute le binaire minetestserver |
09:48 |
Calinou |
ou éxécute le binaire minetest avec l'argument --server |
09:48 |
Calinou |
mais bon, mieux vaut compiler soi même |
09:48 |
Calinou |
il y a une méthode facile (ne pas utiliser pour les serveurs dédiés): |
09:49 |
Calinou |
dans "multiplayer", tu mets une adresse vide et le port 30000 |
09:49 |
Calinou |
ça lance un servuer |
09:49 |
Calinou |
serveur* |
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Anelisa |
je sais .. u_u |
09:55 |
Calinou |
ligne 100 atteinte! |
09:55 |
Calinou |
:] |
09:56 |
Anelisa |
=) |
09:56 |
Anelisa |
par contre je voie pas... les lignes |
09:57 |
Calinou |
dans l'éditeur de texte? faut l'activer sur certains éditeurs ^^ |
09:57 |
Anelisa |
u_u |
10:06 |
Calinou |
ligne 149 :) |
10:08 |
Anelisa |
courrage ! =) |
10:13 |
Calinou |
ligne 180; je vais manger |
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thexyz |
oh, awesome |
10:27 |
thexyz |
mount eats 100% cpu and can't be killed |
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Anelisa |
re |
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Anelisa |
... |
11:14 |
Calinou |
re |
11:14 |
Calinou |
Anelisa, pourquoi? |
11:14 |
Anelisa |
de quoi ? |
11:15 |
Anelisa |
ah oui, pour traduire ! |
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Anelisa |
.. |
12:02 |
Calinou |
point point |
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Anelisa |
hm |
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* Anelisa |
test |
12:30 |
* Anelisa |
se souviens qu'elle avait déjà testée ça ! |
12:41 |
Anelisa |
bon bye |
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darkrose |
http://stuff.ltmnet.com/images/mt/3d-mobs.png |
12:54 |
Calinou |
hi opensourcist! I recognize your shitty assets! :3 |
12:54 |
Calinou |
also, suddenly: transparency sorting |
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marktraceur |
Hrm. |
14:20 |
marktraceur |
Woke up to July 4th (American "Independence Day") on Reddit |
14:21 |
marktraceur |
People talking about freedom, liberty, etc.; Google put out something like the "Internet Declaration", and so on |
14:21 |
marktraceur |
It all makes me wonder when we lost our interest in freedom, and why people seem all so concerned for it only once a year. |
14:21 |
Calinou |
independance day: what will never happen with MT |
14:22 |
Calinou |
too much dependencies :P |
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khonkhortisan |
we still have our king |
15:52 |
jordach |
who |
15:53 |
khonkhortisan |
celeron |
15:53 |
MiJyn |
huh? |
15:54 |
khonkhortisan |
we are a colony that has not changed leaders |
15:56 |
jordach |
more 8bit magic http://soundcloud.com/jordach/ice-mountain-zone-act-2 |
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jordach |
erm |
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jordach |
problem |
16:36 |
jordach |
VanessaE, you know a fix? |
16:37 |
jordach |
no worry |
16:37 |
jordach |
my SATAMK1 /sda2 was real slow |
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jordach |
44,005 files is contained on my /sda/D:/ which eats 36Gigs |
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jordach |
some more truth |
17:05 |
jordach |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29723#p29723 |
17:09 |
marktraceur |
jordach: If you're leaving the community, you'll be sorely missed--we need people above all else, you know! |
17:09 |
jordach |
im not leaving |
17:09 |
jordach |
IM ATTEMPTING TO BRING BACK THE LOST USERS |
17:09 |
marktraceur |
The noobs, they come and go. Hackers stick around. |
17:09 |
jordach |
erm |
17:09 |
jordach |
ironzorg? |
17:09 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I know which one I am? |
17:09 |
jordach |
he made some really nice mods |
17:09 |
jordach |
but, hes now gone |
17:09 |
marktraceur |
Hm, true, I remember that there were some nice mods |
17:10 |
marktraceur |
From him |
17:10 |
jordach |
tell me this: minetest was NEVER supposed to be an engine |
17:10 |
marktraceur |
I agree, that too is a shame. But that tie won't be broken, once you work on a project you're enmeshed in it |
17:10 |
marktraceur |
Sorry, that was Re: Ironzorg |
17:11 |
marktraceur |
Re: Engine, I disagree. The game was built on top of an engine, so a large part of it was always meant to be so. |
17:11 |
marktraceur |
Especially with the Lua API, people realized it made more sense to have an engine and multiple games on top |
17:11 |
jordach |
celeron had even stated something here: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40468 |
17:13 |
marktraceur |
jordach: The original intent of the project, sure |
17:14 |
marktraceur |
jordach: But projects definitely change, and their goals change with them |
17:14 |
jordach |
i dont really feel that its open source anymore |
17:14 |
jordach |
lets roll the 0.2 commits |
17:14 |
jordach |
sfan5 is there, bookwar, kahrl, others |
17:14 |
jordach |
thats open source |
17:14 |
jordach |
NOW? NO. |
17:15 |
jordach |
all his own commits |
17:15 |
sfan5 |
wut? |
17:15 |
jordach |
celeron only makes commits, and back in 0.2 everyone did |
17:15 |
NakedFury |
more people are coming but less know c++ |
17:16 |
marktraceur |
Perhaps a result of the Lua API |
17:16 |
marktraceur |
People look at it, and think it's a good way to solve problems |
17:16 |
marktraceur |
But it doesn't have enough functionality to do everything, so when they come across a wall they simply stop |
17:16 |
BloodyFire |
I know C++ but it takes time to learn how minetest works. |
17:17 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I get the facedir out of a node? (I'm trying to add grass to my dirt nodebox) |
17:20 |
thexyz |
khonkhortisan: #minetest-mods |
17:20 |
khonkhortisan |
okay |
17:21 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> jordach: If you're leaving the community, you'll be sorely missed--we need people above all else, you know! |
17:21 |
Calinou |
should I use the sarcasm meter? |
17:22 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: No. We need people around here, this is a volunteer project. Simple facts. |
17:22 |
Calinou |
we need capable coders yes |
17:22 |
* Calinou |
wants mobs |
17:22 |
* jordach |
will do this |
17:22 |
* jordach |
is learning code |
17:22 |
* jordach |
may end up making maps endless |
17:23 |
jordach |
the limit should be 31000 * 100 |
17:23 |
thexyz |
jordach: what limit? |
17:23 |
jordach |
the map limit of 31000 |
17:24 |
jordach |
and a flatland generator option |
17:24 |
jordach |
(pixel art times) |
17:25 |
thexyz |
and no flying islands |
17:25 |
jordach |
yep |
17:25 |
jordach |
(ill mainly look into map.cpp) |
17:25 |
thexyz |
btw, also don't forget to fix typo |
17:25 |
thexyz |
if you'll submit a patch |
17:26 |
jordach |
im probably not gonna fix that |
17:26 |
jordach |
i dislike patches |
17:26 |
Calinou |
"we need people" is bad for the forum though |
17:26 |
Calinou |
the average users are making spam threads/posts, it's getting annoying |
17:26 |
jordach |
Calinou, this is why i want the older users to come back |
17:27 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Bad for the forum, or bad for the current setup of the forum? Maybe we just need a better way to coordinate. |
17:27 |
Calinou |
more moderators... actually removing pointless posts |
17:27 |
jordach |
or make a new section called newbies |
17:28 |
jordach |
where its un-moderated |
17:28 |
Calinou |
removing real "spam" is good yes, but we need to remove pointless posts too. this is minetest forum |
17:28 |
Calinou |
and it has NO "offtopic" section, I am sorry |
17:28 |
marktraceur |
Or maybe the forum isn't the best way to coordinate this? |
17:29 |
marktraceur |
Maybe we should organize a proper code hosting system, and use that for the core, and the mods |
17:31 |
sfan5 |
omg, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155816/Is-Cloud-Nine-zombie-apocalypse-Police-issue-warning-new-drug-TWO-cannibal-attacks.html |
17:33 |
jordach |
not really |
17:33 |
jordach |
they can BAN IT |
17:36 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: dailymail.co.uk is not a terribly positive sign for the helpfulness of the article |
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sfan5 |
... |
17:37 |
sfan5 |
i just selected the first english article about that |
17:38 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: Noted |
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17:39 |
sfan5 |
i think http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9316220/Miami-police-warn-of-Cloud-Nine-drug-after-homeless-man-threatens-to-eat-officers.html seems to offer better "things" |
17:40 |
jordach |
sfan5, im trying to find this variable in minetest MAP_BLOCKSIZE |
17:41 |
jordach |
well MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT |
17:41 |
BloodyFire |
grep ? |
17:41 |
jordach |
no |
17:41 |
sfan5 |
he uses win |
17:41 |
jordach |
trying to find that variables address point |
17:41 |
jordach |
then we might get bigger maps |
17:41 |
BloodyFire |
Hold on. |
17:42 |
sfan5 |
grep "#define MAP_BLOCKSIZE" *.h *.cpp |
17:42 |
sfan5 |
constants.h:#define MAP_BLOCKSIZE 16 |
17:42 |
sfan5 |
constants.h://#define MAP_BLOCKSIZE 32 |
17:42 |
Calinou |
lol |
17:42 |
BloodyFire |
This has nothing to do with map size. |
17:42 |
jordach |
MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT |
17:42 |
jordach |
thats the one |
17:42 |
sfan5 |
grep "#define MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT" *.h *.cpp |
17:42 |
sfan5 |
constants.h:#define MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT (31000) |
17:42 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> Maybe we should organize a proper code hosting system, and use that for the core, and the mods |
17:42 |
Calinou |
> github or gitorious |
17:42 |
Calinou |
I'm talking about the general discussion on the server |
17:42 |
Calinou |
noobs asking for spoon feeding |
17:43 |
Calinou |
useless posts & threads |
17:43 |
Calinou |
"games" |
17:43 |
jordach |
yep |
17:43 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: And I'm saying that, if we set up a more robust code hosting system, the developer community could exist independently of the user community, or at least shielded from constant barrage |
17:43 |
jordach |
Calinou, lets watch minetest get a huger map now |
17:43 |
BloodyFire |
Alright, sfan5 has the location. Shutting down eclipse again. :> |
17:44 |
sfan5 |
grep is faster |
17:44 |
BloodyFire |
Sure. |
17:44 |
jordach |
BloodyFire, whats the variabloe bits used in minetest? |
17:44 |
jordach |
for MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT |
17:44 |
marktraceur |
grep: 5 seconds (if that) to search entire minetest directory |
17:44 |
marktraceur |
eclipse: 2 minutes to start up |
17:44 |
BloodyFire |
Variable bits? |
17:44 |
marktraceur |
I dunno, it's pretty close |
17:44 |
jordach |
like, 8,16,32,64 |
17:45 |
BloodyFire |
What has it to do with MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT? |
17:45 |
jordach |
(id like it so we could have endless maps) |
17:45 |
jordach |
AN ENDLESS MAP |
17:45 |
jordach |
no more need for LIMITS |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
#define is not like int |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
int is afaik 32 bit |
17:46 |
BloodyFire |
Yeah, it's pretty hardcoded. |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
but #define is nothing |
17:46 |
BloodyFire |
It depends on how it's used. |
17:46 |
jordach |
hm |
17:46 |
jordach |
so what would #define be then |
17:46 |
BloodyFire |
But it cannot be modified. |
17:46 |
sfan5 |
#define test "abc" is valid |
17:47 |
jordach |
sfan5, so would 900000000 work in #define |
17:47 |
marktraceur |
jordach: #define is a preprocessor directive |
17:47 |
BloodyFire |
#define is just for exchange MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT with 31000 |
17:47 |
sfan5 |
jordach: yep |
17:47 |
BloodyFire |
In all places in the code. |
17:47 |
jordach |
so it will eat anything in this case |
17:47 |
marktraceur |
jordach: When you do #define SOMETHING SOMETHING_ELSE, every instance of SOMETHING in the file gets replaced with SOMETHING_ELSE, regardless of what those two things are |
17:47 |
marktraceur |
(IIRC) |
17:48 |
jordach |
ahh |
17:48 |
marktraceur |
And apparently, when you include the file, the #defines get applied to the file where you included them |
17:49 |
jordach |
lemme geuss, so that define MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT (31000) will use whats in the brackets for short? |
17:49 |
BloodyFire |
Maybe it would be an idea to add MAP_NO_LIMIT and if it's set to 1, the limit check should be passed or something like that. |
17:49 |
marktraceur |
That sounds about right |
17:49 |
sfan5 |
jordach: short numver type? |
17:49 |
BloodyFire |
I don't know much about code that you need to look for this. |
17:49 |
sfan5 |
*number |
17:50 |
jordach |
sfan5, what? |
17:50 |
jordach |
(since celeron is away |
17:50 |
jordach |
im going to make some cool things with it") |
17:50 |
sfan5 |
... |
17:50 |
jordach |
cmon, who wants never ending maps |
17:50 |
jordach |
(i hate being trapped in some cube) |
17:50 |
sfan5 |
<BloodyFire> Maybe it would be an idea to add MAP_NO_LIMIT and if it's set to 1, the limit check should be passed or something like that. |
17:51 |
sfan5 |
we would have to change things in constants.cpp,server.cpp,map.cpp and mapblock.h |
17:51 |
jordach |
yes |
17:51 |
sfan5 |
*constans.h |
17:51 |
jordach |
this simple edit will give bigger maps, at the size of hard disk |
17:51 |
jordach |
(nowadays 160gb is relatively cheap) |
17:52 |
sfan5 |
http://sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc/paste/index.php?6 |
17:52 |
jordach |
i see |
17:53 |
jordach |
oh btw - imma test this right now |
17:53 |
jordach |
(cmake time) |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
http://sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc/paste/index.php?4 |
17:53 |
sfan5 |
with line numbers |
17:54 |
jordach |
so why the division by chunk size |
17:54 |
jordach |
that makes no sense in my view |
17:55 |
sfan5 |
p is a mapblock not a node |
17:55 |
jordach |
CHUNK SIZE |
17:55 |
sfan5 |
and mapblock is MAPBLOCK_SIZE big |
17:55 |
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17:55 |
jordach |
so like 16 * 16 * 16 nodes? |
17:56 |
sfan5 |
yes |
17:56 |
jordach |
ah |
17:56 |
jordach |
so ill change this value to 8, since i lag frequently |
17:56 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, we have github then |
17:56 |
sfan5 |
-> more disk activity |
17:56 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> grep: 5 seconds (if that) to search entire minetest directory |
17:56 |
Calinou |
<marktraceur> eclipse: 2 minutes to start up |
17:56 |
Calinou |
+1 |
17:56 |
sfan5 |
+1 |
17:57 |
jordach |
hmm, 32 chunk sizes sound decent? |
17:57 |
sfan5 |
... |
17:57 |
sfan5 |
yes |
17:57 |
jordach |
how many nodes do we see with fog at 35 |
17:57 |
jordach |
(ill make chunk sizes fit spot on) |
17:58 |
jordach |
(if so, it would be at the size of 64 |
17:58 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: We use Github for code hosting, but issues and wiki aren't hosted there. We could do a lot better. |
17:58 |
marktraceur |
(sorry, issues are hosted there, but not super-active) |
17:59 |
jordach |
erm bugzilla |
17:59 |
marktraceur |
jordach: Right, that's one example |
18:01 |
Calinou |
github wiki? just no |
18:01 |
Calinou |
maybe for development... but the dev wiki is fine as-is |
18:02 |
Calinou |
issue tracker on github is fine |
18:02 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: It's missing a lot of nice features.... |
18:03 |
Calinou |
never used github wiki :P |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
Plus, it's only for the one project. Bugzilla would be helpful in allowing us to host multiple projects under multiple authors |
18:03 |
marktraceur |
(er, host their bug trackers) |
18:06 |
jordach |
sfan5, make on on minigw? |
18:07 |
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18:07 |
sfan5 |
jordach: what? |
18:07 |
Calinou |
"<marktraceur> Plus, it's only for the one project. Bugzilla would be helpful in allowing us to host multiple projects under multiple authors" < are you talking about engine forks? |
18:07 |
Calinou |
there aren't much engine forks out there |
18:07 |
jordach |
configuring done |
18:08 |
jordach |
found the makefile, now what |
18:08 |
jordach |
because i should have a working version in a sec |
18:11 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: No. Mods! |
18:11 |
marktraceur |
(I'm speaking mostly from my experience here at the Wikimedia Foundation) |
18:12 |
Calinou |
mods rarely have bugs, and 95% of these are engine-related |
18:12 |
Calinou |
mods bugs are the author's fault... often typos or such |
18:12 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Even so, it's helpful to have a place for them |
18:13 |
marktraceur |
(and really, all bugs are the author's fault at some level) |
18:17 |
sfan5 |
my experimental infinite map implentation is done |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
but when i run it gdb says: |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
[Switching to Thread 0xa80ffb40 (LWP 13757)] |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
__memset_sse2_rep () at ../sysdeps/i386/i686/multiarch/memset-sse2-rep.S:166 |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
166../sysdeps/i386/i686/multiarch/memset-sse2-rep.S: No such file or directory. |
18:18 |
MiJyn |
huh? |
18:18 |
MiJyn |
whats the code? |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
hang on a sec |
18:19 |
thexyz |
sfan5: bt |
18:21 |
MiJyn |
so it compiles fine? |
18:21 |
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18:21 |
sfan5 |
MiJyn: yes |
18:21 |
* sfan5 |
hates git |
18:22 |
sfan5 |
git doesn't want to push my new branch |
18:22 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: what? |
18:22 |
jordach |
sfan5, you have used MiniGW on windows xp? |
18:22 |
sfan5 |
you mean mingw? |
18:22 |
jordach |
yea |
18:22 |
thexyz |
sfan5: execute "bt" in gdb console |
18:23 |
sfan5 |
already killed the program, i'll rerun it |
18:24 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: http://sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc/paste/index.php?5 |
18:26 |
thexyz |
sfan5: can you share it via AVAILIBLE pastebin service? |
18:26 |
thexyz |
not your own-one-running-on-offline-toaster |
18:26 |
thexyz |
ping: unknown host sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc |
18:26 |
jordach |
exists for me |
18:27 |
sfan5 |
PING sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc (31.170.166.232) 56(84) bytes of data. |
18:27 |
sfan5 |
64 bytes from sfan5.blokkeren.co.cc (31.170.166.232): icmp_req=1 ttl=46 time=154 ms |
18:27 |
Calinou |
fix yo hostname :P |
18:28 |
jordach |
IT IS fixed |
18:28 |
jordach |
for gods sake, i can see that paste |
18:28 |
thexyz |
that's nice |
18:28 |
thexyz |
then, jordach, you are the only who can help him |
18:28 |
jordach |
(my isp has NO BLOCKS) |
18:29 |
sfan5 |
http://pastie.org/private/2lpakxvvc19ea5vqmlieqg |
18:30 |
thexyz |
sfan5: post also diff with original minetest |
18:30 |
sfan5 |
github doesn't want to accept my fucking new branch |
18:31 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: That must be painful, fucking a branch |
18:32 |
jordach |
marktraceur, learning from rthe best? |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/68c91cf4fd893a1d640340381a88fa7a5634c0cb |
18:37 |
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18:38 |
thexyz |
lol |
18:38 |
thexyz |
of course that will crash |
18:39 |
sfan5 |
why? |
18:41 |
thexyz |
at least because coordinates are signed 16-bit integers, iirc |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
hm |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
i teleported to 40000 |
18:44 |
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18:47 |
Bad_Command |
Yeah, if you go to around 32767 there's a bug in the client with signed overflow |
18:47 |
Bad_Command |
x++ etc rolls around to negative |
18:47 |
Bad_Command |
Causes clients to lock up |
18:48 |
sfan5 |
so: |
18:48 |
sfan5 |
seraver |
18:48 |
sfan5 |
*server -> supports infinite maps |
18:48 |
sfan5 |
client -> nope.avi and crashes |
18:49 |
Bad_Command |
practically infinite |
18:49 |
Bad_Command |
65km side to side |
18:51 |
sfan5 |
hm |
18:51 |
sfan5 |
how to fix the client bug? |
18:53 |
Bad_Command |
I hacked a fix a while back, it wasn't elegant so I didn't commit it anywhere |
18:53 |
Bad_Command |
In fact I should probably just fix it |
18:55 |
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18:56 |
jordach |
hello Staffs |
18:56 |
Staffs |
jordach: Hai |
18:56 |
jordach |
i have not seen you since jan this year |
18:56 |
jordach |
(forum wise) |
18:56 |
MiJyn |
hi Staffs! |
18:56 |
Guest62518 |
Yea i got bored so i left the minetest clan :D |
18:56 |
Guest62518 |
MiJyn: Hai |
18:57 |
Guest62518 |
Damn Weechat i lost my nick |
18:57 |
jordach |
im trying to bring the |
18:57 |
jordach |
old members of mt back together |
18:58 |
Staffs_2 |
Nice |
18:58 |
Staffs_2 |
I wasn't going to come back but, my friend is a hater and i am like totally bored. :D |
18:59 |
jordach |
Staffs_2, we need you |
18:59 |
* marktraceur |
puts on romantic music |
18:59 |
jordach |
minetest is no longer taking commits from anyone |
18:59 |
Staffs_2 |
jordach: :D okay well im here for a while and fun |
18:59 |
jordach |
celeron is pumping them out only |
18:59 |
sfan5 |
hi Staffs_2 |
19:00 |
marktraceur |
jordach: Are you angling towards a fork? |
19:00 |
Staffs_2 |
sfan5: Hai |
19:00 |
jordach |
y? |
19:00 |
thexyz |
jordach: really? what commits have you personaly send that were ignored? |
19:00 |
thexyz |
*pull requests |
19:00 |
jordach |
phone + irc + one hand = fun |
19:00 |
Staffs_2 |
jordach: Been there, done that |
19:00 |
thexyz |
yes, yes, phone… |
19:00 |
marktraceur |
jordach: Because it's an interesting proposition |
19:01 |
jordach |
goona have to use "the pecker" |
19:01 |
Staffs_2 |
Is anyone playing right now :D ? |
19:01 |
marktraceur |
jordach: Come back after your phone call, there's no rush |
19:01 |
jordach |
maybe# |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
@Staffs |
19:01 |
jordach |
marktraceur, cordless |
19:01 |
Staffs_2 |
maybe/ Playing ? |
19:01 |
Staffs_2 |
oh |
19:01 |
sfan5 |
yes :D |
19:02 |
jordach |
brb |
19:02 |
jordach |
BATH TIME |
19:02 |
jordach |
WOOT |
19:02 |
Staffs_2 |
jordach: Lucky you |
19:02 |
Staffs_2 |
Im too lazy |
19:02 |
Staffs_2 |
sfan5: Give me a link to a download :D |
19:03 |
sfan5 |
of what? |
19:03 |
Staffs_2 |
Minetest |
19:03 |
Staffs_2 |
I deleted old one |
19:03 |
Staffs_2 |
aaand im not totally sure if i should get straight from git oorrrr |
19:03 |
sfan5 |
linux? |
19:03 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: We're all still at http://github.com/celeron55/minetest |
19:03 |
marktraceur |
Latest appears to work |
19:04 |
Staffs_2 |
so gitbucket or whatever it IS |
19:04 |
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19:04 |
Staffs_2 |
oh gitHUB silly me |
19:04 |
sfan5 |
Staffs_2: bitbucket is outdated as hell |
19:05 |
marktraceur |
Ha, I had forgotten that c55 used bitbucket back in the day |
19:06 |
Staffs_2 |
marktraceur: Yeah i always can't remember which one is the right one. The hub or bucket :D |
19:06 |
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19:07 |
Staffs_2 |
Holy shoe i still have the latest minetest archive. Weird or what |
19:07 |
Staffs_2 |
oh wait no im wronh |
19:09 |
* sfan5 |
is building minetest + minetestserver on virtual archlinux machine |
19:10 |
Staffs_2 |
Wooh i have arch :D |
19:10 |
Staffs_2 |
im doing the same btw :D |
19:10 |
Staffs_2 |
but not virtual arch |
19:14 |
Staffs_2 |
One of thing that kept me thinking about mt is that i saw slabs and stairs coming up. So now when they are here i am here too :D |
19:14 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: Ha! Glad we could help you come back :) |
19:14 |
* marktraceur |
did some work on the rebase |
19:15 |
Staffs_2 |
:)) |
19:16 |
Staffs_2 |
Ooh jordach wrote something about making of minetest 2d. intersting :D |
19:16 |
MiJyn |
I dunno if he is still maintaining it |
19:17 |
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19:17 |
Staffs_2 |
Oh well. And he said (Neko - is the one with the number) what does that mean ? |
19:18 |
thexyz |
that means neko259 |
19:18 |
jordach |
Staffs_2, yes i am |
19:18 |
Staffs_2 |
jordach: (you are) maintaining ? |
19:18 |
jordach |
yes |
19:18 |
Staffs_2 |
oh nice |
19:18 |
jordach |
gonna fix it |
19:18 |
Staffs_2 |
gonna check it |
19:18 |
Staffs_2 |
somewhen |
19:19 |
Staffs_2 |
oh today is 4th of july just rememburd |
19:20 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: Ha! Welcome to the world :P |
19:20 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: Are you in a place that celebrates it? |
19:21 |
Staffs_2 |
That is why i forgot it. I don't celebrate it in my country. But i know its a big thing for americans and it is the fireworks time :D |
19:21 |
Staffs_2 |
I live in europe <-() |
19:22 |
jordach |
^ someones living near germany |
19:22 |
Staffs_2 |
You mean me ?\ |
19:22 |
jordach |
yep |
19:22 |
Staffs_2 |
Hummmmm |
19:22 |
Staffs_2 |
Not exactly. But my country was invaded by them so... yeah :D |
19:22 |
jordach |
POLAND |
19:22 |
Staffs_2 |
Nawp |
19:22 |
jordach |
RUSSIA |
19:23 |
Staffs_2 |
Close |
19:23 |
jordach |
serbia? |
19:23 |
Staffs_2 |
Nope Latvia (its pretty small) |
19:23 |
jordach |
aw man |
19:23 |
jordach |
but your russian sounding english makes you look russain |
19:23 |
Staffs_2 |
But that is old stuff about the invading |
19:23 |
jordach |
which is by the by, awesom,e |
19:24 |
Staffs_2 |
You mean my english writing sounds russian'ish :D ? |
19:24 |
Staffs_2 |
Well LV is next to Russia |
19:24 |
Staffs_2 |
And some russians live here |
19:24 |
jordach |
yep |
19:24 |
jordach |
thanks geography |
19:25 |
Staffs_2 |
Intersting :D |
19:25 |
sfan5 |
for those who are interested: http://sfan5.dyndns.org/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-archlinux.tar.gz |
19:25 |
jordach |
linux only? |
19:25 |
* jordach |
wants a win build |
19:25 |
Staffs_2 |
sfan5: I just did it myself |
19:25 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
19:25 |
Staffs_2 |
:\ |
19:26 |
Staffs_2 |
sry :D |
19:26 |
sfan5 |
its ok :) |
19:26 |
Staffs_2 |
its ok that its ok |
19:26 |
Staffs_2 |
lol |
19:26 |
sfan5 |
jordach: my buildbot is running |
19:26 |
jordach |
YAYAY |
19:26 |
Staffs_2 |
AW may gawd. |
19:27 |
Staffs_2 |
Menu screen looks so bad with default texture |
19:27 |
jordach |
Staffs_2, you know it can be changed out |
19:27 |
jordach |
;) |
19:27 |
jordach |
also, working on Landgen V9 |
19:27 |
jordach |
adding: more frickin blocks |
19:27 |
Staffs_2 |
i know |
19:28 |
jordach |
and oddly, i got a DIRT TREE |
19:28 |
Staffs_2 |
I heard about the ram leaks |
19:28 |
Staffs_2 |
sad |
19:28 |
Staffs_2 |
are they fixed ? |
19:29 |
jordach |
no. |
19:29 |
sfan5 |
i think theyre not |
19:29 |
jordach |
i can try this |
19:29 |
jordach |
(maybe later) |
19:29 |
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19:29 |
Staffs_2 |
oh nvm |
19:30 |
Staffs_2 |
Suggest a server :D |
19:30 |
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19:30 |
sfan5 |
singleplayer |
19:30 |
jordach|web |
hallo me using the webclient |
19:30 |
sfan5 |
;) |
19:30 |
marktraceur |
jordach|web: That sucks, why? |
19:30 |
Staffs_2 |
sfan5: oh well for some time |
19:30 |
Staffs_2 |
:D |
19:31 |
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19:31 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: marktraceur.info 30000 should be up |
19:31 |
marktraceur |
Not many mods, but some interesting construction so far |
19:32 |
sfan5 |
jordach: windows build uploading |
19:32 |
jordach |
yay inf-land |
19:32 |
jordach |
and i hate animated textures |
19:32 |
jordach |
(eats loads of fps |
19:32 |
jordach |
)* |
19:32 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: If you decide to visit my server, please let me know so I can give you interact |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
<jordach> yay inf-land |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
my build is not inf land |
19:33 |
jordach |
:C |
19:33 |
jordach |
whats if for then |
19:33 |
sfan5 |
infinite maps don't work |
19:33 |
jordach |
whats it for then |
19:33 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: http://i.imgur.com/yojnk.png |
19:34 |
marktraceur |
^ With Nouveau on a Thinkpad T420s |
19:34 |
sfan5 |
New Minetest Windows Build: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.dev-20120606-02fb912-win32.7z |
19:35 |
jordach |
whats it for |
19:35 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: Is it built for 2012-06-06? |
19:36 |
Staffs_2 |
marktraceur: Well nouveau doesn't change graphics it just sucks and is slower |
19:36 |
Staffs_2 |
IMO |
19:36 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: The point of that screenshot is that I have nearly 60FPS |
19:36 |
sfan5 |
marktraceur: git-hash 02fb912 |
19:36 |
Staffs_2 |
OH :D |
19:36 |
Staffs_2 |
lol |
19:36 |
Staffs_2 |
i have nouveau right now btw |
19:36 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: You should probably rename it to dev-20120703 or similar |
19:36 |
jordach |
why |
19:37 |
Staffs_2 |
marktraceur: Give me build perms |
19:37 |
sfan5 |
marktraceur: my buildbot uses "make package" that uses the version in some cmake file |
19:37 |
sfan5 |
so celeron must change it |
19:38 |
marktraceur |
sfan5: Can you at least rename the file after it's generated? :P |
19:38 |
sfan5 |
i could! |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
marktraceur: build priv request on your server |
19:39 |
jordach |
build here here |
19:41 |
* marktraceur |
is glad the server is working |
19:41 |
marktraceur |
There was a time where my network was screwy |
19:51 |
jordach |
yep |
19:51 |
jordach |
Staffs_2, i left because of terrible isp lag |
19:51 |
Staffs_2 |
jordach: oh |
19:52 |
Staffs_2 |
Anyyways i would keep the company but its pretty late so bye |
19:52 |
Staffs_2 |
I will wait until somebody says bye back to me |
19:52 |
Staffs_2 |
w8ing |
19:53 |
marktraceur |
Staffs_2: Talk to you later! |
19:53 |
Staffs_2 |
Bye |
19:53 |
Staffs_2 |
Oh well no bye's for me anymore :D lol bb |
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20:35 |
jordach |
night |
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21:21 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, ubuntu...? |
21:21 |
Calinou |
thought you used some other distro |
21:21 |
Calinou |
anyway: nice |
21:21 |
Calinou |
what's the view distance? :3 |
21:22 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Yes, Ubuntu, my work computer |
21:22 |
marktraceur |
And default view distance |
21:22 |
Calinou |
oh, staff left |
21:22 |
marktraceur |
Usually on Debian or Trisquel GNU/Linux |
21:23 |
marktraceur |
Oh, I've volunteered my server to be somewhat of a test instance for the LibrePlanet "gaming collective", a bunch of free software gamers. The FSF will probably be hosting a minetest server in the near future for this group, too. |
21:25 |
NakedFury |
nice |
21:25 |
NakedFury |
libreplanet |
21:28 |
* marktraceur |
gives up on work |
21:29 |
marktraceur |
Time for minetest |
21:33 |
Calinou |
inb4 griefers |
21:33 |
Calinou |
hope it will e well-protected :P |
21:33 |
Calinou |
be* |
21:42 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: so there are more people on your server? |
21:42 |
cy1 |
I should work on that sky thing... |
21:44 |
cy1 |
meh! |
21:44 |
cy1 |
it's still got speedhax |
21:44 |
cy1 |
anti |
21:44 |
cy1 |
antispeedhax |
21:44 |
cy1 |
they ruin elevators :( |
21:48 |
marktraceur |
cy1: How should I remove that? |
21:48 |
cy1 |
using my fork of minetest ofc :3 |
21:48 |
cy1 |
but seriously I dunno |
21:48 |
cy1 |
there's a tiny part in one file to change |
21:49 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: it's commit 3727b391230c2720d9d34c94ce78fcb167e2cec6 |
21:50 |
cy1 |
comments out a backwards teleport thing in content_sao.cpp where the player is detected moving "too fast" |
21:51 |
cy1 |
too fast being normal movement when the server is lagged |
21:51 |
cy1 |
aka everything horrible about minetest.ru |
21:51 |
cy1 |
So it still logs them, but doesn't backwards teleport. |
21:53 |
cy1 |
eventually I intend to implement a sqlite database that records player location and time |
21:53 |
cy1 |
so you can graph where they've been and how fast they got from point A to point B |
21:53 |
cy1 |
then use that to decide whether to put their public key on the next stage of trust. |
21:54 |
cy1 |
really if someone is using speedhax but isn't griefing others it's not cut and dry whether they should be banned or not. |
21:55 |
cy1 |
maybe they're building something epic, and the admin won't give them fly because shenanigans |
21:55 |
cy1 |
really minetest is more about how you want to play, not about how it must be played. |
21:55 |
cy1 |
such is the nature of open source games. |
21:55 |
cy1 |
speedhax can't make you friends with others by themselves, and that's the real way to win any game. |
22:14 |
marktraceur |
Has anyone been able to get a joystick working with minetest on GNU/Linux? |
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22:16 |
NakedFury |
never tried it |
22:18 |
marktraceur |
Right, memory not happy with me |
22:18 |
marktraceur |
Switch to desktop I must |
22:19 |
NakedFury |
ohhhh Yoda speak |
22:41 |
marktraceur |
http://marktraceur.info/shared/images/minetest/map.png |
22:42 |
cy1 |
Yoda's trick was that the VA spoke german |
22:42 |
NakedFury |
nice ! |
22:42 |
cy1 |
so he just used English words with German grammar |
22:42 |
NakedFury |
I can still see the trenches |
22:43 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I haven't patched to fix that, not sure if it's merged into master even |
22:43 |
cy1 |
haha there's my sky platform~ |
22:43 |
cy1 |
no it's not. c55 has been absent of dev lately |
22:43 |
NakedFury |
I still see them |
22:43 |
NakedFury |
in my lastest games |
22:43 |
cy1 |
I mean |
22:43 |
cy1 |
yes it has |
22:43 |
cy1 |
in MY repository :P |
22:44 |
cy1 |
not minetest-CEEFIFTYFIVE though |
22:44 |
cy1 |
he's just taking a break no doubt |
22:44 |
cy1 |
did a lot of work with animated textures and nodeboxes and lua chests |
22:47 |
cy1 |
(that was him right) |
22:47 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Yes |
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MiJyn |
yo Riddle |
23:08 |
NakedFury |
marktraceur how did you take that picture of the server map? |
23:12 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: util/minetestmapper.py |
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