| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:02 |
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mrdragons joined #minetest |
| 00:22 |
Riddle |
yo, just got in |
| 00:23 |
MiJyn |
yo |
| 00:24 |
Riddle |
sup? |
| 00:24 |
Riddle |
sorry i was afk, was 60 miles away picking a tank for my lizard |
| 00:25 |
MiJyn |
oh |
| 00:25 |
MiJyn |
wha? |
| 01:02 |
Riddle |
was shopping |
| 01:02 |
Riddle |
now on my MC server doing work |
| 01:03 |
MiJyn |
ah! |
| 01:03 |
MiJyn |
could I join? |
| 01:03 |
Riddle |
currently only staff :( on august 3rd its open to all i think |
| 01:04 |
MiJyn |
ok |
| 01:04 |
MiJyn |
mineshafter? |
| 01:04 |
MiJyn |
or minecraft? |
| 01:04 |
Riddle |
craft |
| 01:05 |
MiJyn |
online = true? |
| 01:05 |
Riddle |
yeah |
| 01:05 |
marktraceur |
Offtopic |
| 01:05 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, totally ontopic |
| 01:06 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: Oh, right, this is #minecraft |
| 01:07 |
marktraceur |
I had forgotten |
| 01:07 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, you have a poor memory! |
| 01:07 |
marktraceur |
And I'm the king of the gorram leprechauns |
| 01:07 |
* marktraceur |
is off to protect the emerald isle |
| 01:07 |
Riddle |
:D |
| 01:08 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Please discuss Minecraft where it's relevant, thanks |
| 01:09 |
Riddle |
sorry >.> |
| 01:09 |
Riddle |
no one was talking at all |
| 01:09 |
marktraceur |
Even so |
| 01:09 |
Riddle |
didn't think i was >offending |
| 01:09 |
Riddle |
i won't tho :) |
| 01:10 |
marktraceur |
Not offending, but it's off-topic |
| 01:10 |
Riddle |
i can open as many copys of xchat as i need, much be a #mc |
| 01:10 |
Riddle |
must* |
| 01:11 |
MiJyn |
ah right marktraceur, we are _always_ on topic here... ALWAYS... never are we off topic, oh, never |
| 01:11 |
MiJyn |
xD |
| 01:11 |
Riddle |
:P |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: True, we could do better |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
Let's start! |
| 01:12 |
Riddle |
anyways Mijyn, i can get you that server ip When its 'relivent' ;D |
| 01:12 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Private messages are a valid way to communicate, you know |
| 01:12 |
MiJyn |
Riddle, ok! If it's online = false or mineshafter though |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, private messages are for n00bs |
| 01:13 |
* marktraceur |
sighs |
| 01:13 |
Riddle |
idk how to pm here >.> |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
REAL men communicate over an unguarded channel, trolling as much as we want |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
xD |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
jk |
| 01:13 |
marktraceur |
'm starting to see why c55 and jordach are so frustrated with this community |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
yeah |
| 01:13 |
MiJyn |
me too |
| 01:13 |
Riddle |
hey :( a community doesn't need to be ontopic? |
| 01:14 |
MiJyn |
of course not |
| 01:14 |
MiJyn |
that's half of the point |
| 01:14 |
MiJyn |
stay off-topic! :P |
| 01:14 |
Riddle |
:D |
| 01:17 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Not that you're off-topic, that you have no interest in the topic at hand |
| 01:18 |
MiJyn |
uh, wtf is the topic? |
| 01:19 |
MiJyn |
it was more than an hour before Riddle sent his "yo, just got in" post |
| 01:19 |
MiJyn |
like more than an hour before someone else posted before Riddle |
| 01:19 |
MiJyn |
so I think that he doesn't need to be interested in the topic at hand lol |
| 01:20 |
Riddle |
what topic? |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: What's the name of this channel? |
| 01:20 |
Riddle |
mt ? |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
Riddle: Very good |
| 01:20 |
Riddle |
mt = coolio :P |
| 01:20 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, "#krewella" |
| 01:20 |
Riddle |
i have it. i have self made mods. i am interested |
| 01:20 |
MiJyn |
:P |
| 01:20 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: The frustration continues |
| 01:21 |
MiJyn |
:P |
| 01:21 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 01:21 |
Riddle |
if riddle=not interested he wouldn't monitor this channel >.> |
| 01:22 |
marktraceur |
It seems like 90% of the conversation in this channel is trolling. The other 10% is mostly about individual servers. It's frustrating. |
| 01:22 |
MiJyn |
if marktraceur = interested, he would know that being off topic is normal |
| 01:22 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, perfect! |
| 01:22 |
Riddle |
no prob dude. i'm just saying, i'm not a troll account |
| 01:22 |
Riddle |
been here monitoring for about 2 weeks? |
| 01:23 |
Riddle |
maybe 3? idk |
| 01:23 |
MiJyn |
rly? |
| 01:23 |
marktraceur |
I don't mind lurkers, it's fine to hang around and not chat |
| 01:23 |
marktraceur |
But to come in and start by discussing minecraft seems a bit odd |
| 01:23 |
Riddle |
i just afk and talk when i am modding, or spoken to |
| 01:23 |
MiJyn |
but there is a problem in backseat moderating |
| 01:24 |
Riddle |
i was spoken to and had no Time stamp, so i started a convo with sir Mijyn here |
| 01:24 |
Riddle |
didn't know how long since the yo :( |
| 01:24 |
MiJyn |
Riddle, you use Xchat too? |
| 01:29 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, have youever made any mods? |
| 01:29 |
Riddle |
9 >Implying this isn't green text |
| 01:30 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: Several, yes |
| 01:30 |
MiJyn |
6yes, that is green text |
| 01:30 |
Riddle |
:D |
| 01:30 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, 4which? |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: I rewrote Calinou's moreores, most recently |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
I also made factories, and tech |
| 01:31 |
cy1 |
heh rewrote |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
Farther back was add_tool |
| 01:31 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, right, your library rewrite... lol |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
Hrm? |
| 01:31 |
cy1 |
I made a hydroponics module. :< |
| 01:32 |
cy1 |
really should get around to testing that |
| 01:32 |
Riddle |
:P |
| 01:32 |
cy1 |
Was working on a "water destroyer" module |
| 01:32 |
MiJyn |
cy1, oh, did you help mauvebic? |
| 01:33 |
cy1 |
because floods can turn into source |
| 01:33 |
MiJyn |
oh |
| 01:39 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn: What do you mean by "library rewrite"? |
| 01:39 |
MiJyn |
marktraceur, you added a library, right? |
| 01:39 |
marktraceur |
Uh, no |
| 01:39 |
MiJyn |
oh |
| 01:40 |
marktraceur |
All I did was move the general stuff into a function, and call the function for all of the ores |
| 01:41 |
cy1 |
my server overheated and died from generating a world map ;_; |
| 01:41 |
cy1 |
MiJyn: can anyone be considered to have created a library underived from anything else? |
| 01:44 |
MiJyn |
oh ok |
| 01:45 |
* cy1 |
is so philosophical `-` |
| 01:45 |
MiJyn |
lol |
| 01:47 |
NakedFury |
I like your country cy1, Internic Non-Profit Organization |
| 01:51 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: They're a peaceful land, with cultures not unlike our own |
| 01:52 |
cy1 |
:/ |
| 01:52 |
cy1 |
see this is why fascism sucks |
| 01:58 |
cy1 |
ugh, well I generated a map, but so much of the explored surface is unknown texture that it looks all wonky |
| 01:58 |
NakedFury |
missing textures |
| 01:59 |
NakedFury |
? |
| 01:59 |
cy1 |
yeah |
| 01:59 |
cy1 |
mapgen tool doesn't use the actual texure files |
| 01:59 |
cy1 |
and it's not lua so it can't load the modules or anything to find out what the files are |
| 01:59 |
cy1 |
just a straight lookup table for what color what block is |
| 01:59 |
cy1 |
only default: |
| 01:59 |
marktraceur |
cy1: We could probably hack something together that makes it work with the Lua mods |
| 02:00 |
cy1 |
nehh |
| 02:00 |
cy1 |
I'm writing a minetest thingy to record the colors of stuff |
| 02:00 |
cy1 |
as the client finds new textures |
| 02:01 |
cy1 |
then use that db to generate a colors.txt file and send to the server. |
| 02:01 |
marktraceur |
That could work |
| 02:01 |
marktraceur |
Might be fine to just save colors.txt |
| 02:01 |
marktraceur |
No DB |
| 02:06 |
MiJyn |
ah, good idea |
| 02:09 |
marktraceur |
cy1: You could add this to minetest core, a parameter to the node registration table that registers a color to colors.txt |
| 02:10 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: or just something that calculates the average color. |
| 02:10 |
cy1 |
no need to specify what it is |
| 02:11 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Could default to calculate the color, but allow override |
| 02:11 |
cy1 |
sure |
| 02:12 |
cy1 |
trouble is, when the client sees a new item definition of type node, it builds a contentfeatures for that node type, then sets the mesh from the texture that was just sort of magically initialized without actually sending the image file over. |
| 02:13 |
cy1 |
so getting a node's tile image uh... not sure how |
| 02:15 |
cy1 |
ha I'll just grep debug.txt |
| 02:15 |
cy1 |
no |
| 02:16 |
cy1 |
that won't work because it still doesn't connect material to image |
| 02:18 |
marktraceur |
cy1: There's almost certainly a property in each node definition |
| 02:18 |
marktraceur |
cy1: If you can register the *filenames* to, e.g., textures.txt, the Python script should be able to figure out the rest |
| 02:18 |
cy1 |
yeah...hm... |
| 02:18 |
marktraceur |
(and I'll even write it!) |
| 02:18 |
marktraceur |
(if you'd like) |
| 02:19 |
marktraceur |
(because I've dealt with the likes of PIL before) |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
ok so for a while now I had no idea what you guys were talking about |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
and mentioning python just clued me in |
| 02:24 |
NakedFury |
dammit im slow |
| 02:27 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Nothing to be ashamed about, happens to the best of us |
| 02:27 |
marktraceur |
Now, time for the ultimate decision |
| 02:27 |
marktraceur |
A) Brave the streets of San Francisco on the Fourth to find food, B) Try to make food myself and fail miserably, or C) Order food from whatever crappy restaurant is open today |
| 02:28 |
NakedFury |
go B |
| 02:28 |
marktraceur |
Oof, that seems like the worst option to me |
| 02:28 |
NakedFury |
Recipe: Bread, Meat, Cheese |
| 02:29 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: I'm in the Mission, so it's more like Recipe: Rice, beans, tortilla, cheese |
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marktraceur |
(high Latin-American population) |
| 02:29 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
| 02:30 |
NakedFury |
my type of food |
| 02:33 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Orly? Meaning, you enjoy it a lot, or you are Latin-American? |
| 02:34 |
NakedFury |
im from Puerto rico so I guess both |
| 02:34 |
NakedFury |
but im not so good on the really spicy stuff |
| 02:34 |
marktraceur |
Awesome |
| 02:35 |
* marktraceur |
also doesn't like the spice so much |
| 02:35 |
NakedFury |
I tolerate a small amount but nothing that makes it hard to stop drinking water or any other liquid |
| 02:37 |
marktraceur |
Ha, I can see how that might be problematic |
| 02:37 |
* marktraceur |
wonders if a more American meal should be in order |
| 02:37 |
marktraceur |
cy1: If I'm out for ~1 hour, do you think you'll need a Python coder then? :) |
| 02:39 |
marktraceur |
Anyway, I'm out, gonna get some hot dogs, gon' be delicious |
| 02:39 |
cy1 |
ok got it sortof |
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marktraceur |
cy1: Want to push and I'll see what I can do after dinner maybe? |
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| 03:20 |
cy1 |
marktraceur: https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-core/commit/6cd0fcc009361c6eb5f076803e80ccb7396da85c |
| 03:21 |
cy1 |
Haven't tested if the colors are pretty. Average might be better to use than the median, but probably not. |
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marktraceur |
cy1: Kinda ugly-lookin' |
| 03:30 |
marktraceur |
cy1: And you've committed your generated colors.txt, probably should remove it |
| 03:30 |
cy1 |
uh, yeah well w/ev |
| 03:31 |
cy1 |
sometimes having a (hopefully rarely) generated file in the repository isn't so bad |
| 03:31 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Well, extra stuff in the repo, stuff that people might not need |
| 03:31 |
marktraceur |
(madblocks, etc., are not always used) |
| 03:31 |
cy1 |
about 2 minutes left before I can look at the map colors |
| 03:31 |
MiJyn |
naice job! |
| 03:31 |
cy1 |
I hesitated more about the findimages/ thing honestly. |
| 03:32 |
cy1 |
It's just lua is the only damn way to find what tile images nodes have |
| 03:32 |
marktraceur |
*nod* makes sense |
| 03:32 |
marktraceur |
I like it, though, it looks pretty good |
| 03:32 |
cy1 |
oops |
| 03:32 |
cy1 |
water isn't walkable, is it ._. |
| 03:32 |
marktraceur |
Lols, no |
| 03:33 |
cy1 |
still should have its color though! |
| 03:33 |
cy1 |
I guess if node.walkable then is a bad idea. |
| 03:33 |
marktraceur |
cy1: light_propagates or whatever |
| 03:33 |
marktraceur |
IIRC |
| 03:33 |
cy1 |
ah, huh. |
| 03:33 |
marktraceur |
sunlight_propagates |
| 03:33 |
cy1 |
no, light propogates through water too |
| 03:34 |
cy1 |
and glass |
| 03:34 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Exactly, you want things with light_propagates to be more transparent |
| 03:35 |
marktraceur |
Hm, it appears the original colors.txt doesn't deal with that |
| 03:35 |
cy1 |
Water should be blue. |
| 03:35 |
cy1 |
yeah I was going by the original setup |
| 03:35 |
cy1 |
no alpha, no layers of map. |
| 03:35 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Oh, I see what's happening |
| 03:35 |
marktraceur |
The mapper treats default:glass and default:water with special cases |
| 03:35 |
marktraceur |
Gotta fix that shit |
| 03:37 |
marktraceur |
Hmmm. |
| 03:37 |
marktraceur |
Maybe your best bet is to make a special case for water, however crappy that its |
| 03:37 |
marktraceur |
is* |
| 03:39 |
cy1 |
uh... hm... |
| 03:39 |
cy1 |
well, we'll see. |
| 03:42 |
cy1 |
you want to know what shit needs fixing |
| 03:42 |
cy1 |
the map generator script reads the entire map into memory before drawing it |
| 03:42 |
cy1 |
the e-n-t-i-r-e map |
| 03:42 |
cy1 |
No wonder it takes so long! |
| 03:46 |
cy1 |
It would actually be faster to use the slower setpixel routines, as the database spits out row results. Thus not making a uncompressed gigantic deserialized copy of all the relevant info for every point on the map. |
| 03:51 |
marktraceur |
cy1: Agreed |
| 04:02 |
cy1 |
ah, huh |
| 04:03 |
cy1 |
the mapper compares adjacent blocks to get the color |
| 04:03 |
cy1 |
for topology no doubt |
| 04:03 |
cy1 |
uh... so it does need to have adjacent nodes. hm... |
| 04:03 |
cy1 |
and the database is xyz not indexed by xz... |
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darkrose |
marktraceur: you're server hates me again |
| 06:11 |
darkrose |
s/you're/your/ |
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Japa_werk |
marktraceur is the server. |
| 06:53 |
Japa_werk |
And hates you, yes. |
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marktraceur |
darkrose: Apparently it's working now? |
| 07:14 |
darkrose |
yes :) |
| 07:14 |
marktraceur |
Mmmmkay |
| 07:15 |
darkrose |
also |
| 07:15 |
* darkrose |
slaps Japa_werk with a bucket of lava |
| 07:15 |
Japa_werk |
:( |
| 07:15 |
darkrose |
it was a friendly slap! |
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Stef__ |
hi do you guys know why the forum is down? |
| 08:07 |
marktraceur |
Stef__: Nope! This happens from time to time, don't worry, it will be back up soon. |
| 08:09 |
Stef__ |
ow ok |
| 08:09 |
Stef__ |
thanks |
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brobostigon |
good morning everyone. |
| 09:08 |
Topywo |
Good morning |
| 09:09 |
brobostigon |
good morning Topywo |
| 09:09 |
Topywo |
It's very quiet for at least 40 minutes :-) |
| 09:12 |
brobostigon |
yep, i can see in my scroll back in irssi |
| 09:13 |
Topywo |
The minetestsite(s) have a PunBB error. |
| 09:14 |
Topywo |
So I decided to stay updated here :-D |
| 09:15 |
brobostigon |
punbb, isnt that the forum software? |
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| 09:16 |
Topywo |
Yes, I also get "Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (110)" |
| 09:16 |
Topywo |
Maybe maintenance, maybe some bits and bytes need to be rearranged, I've not much knowledge about that |
| 09:17 |
brobostigon |
Topywo: i would poke celeron55 over in #minetest-delta, he hosts those. |
| 09:18 |
brobostigon |
sorry, he isnt there, ummm. |
| 09:18 |
Topywo |
I was just wrestling to open another window. |
| 09:19 |
Topywo |
It's no problem, I can wait for days :-) |
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Topywo |
Hi Calinou |
| 09:47 |
Calinou |
hi Topywo |
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| 09:54 |
Max_001 |
hello all :D |
| 09:54 |
Topywo |
Hi Max |
| 09:54 |
Max_001 |
Hey - I got an unusual error while trying to get on the forum: An error was encountered Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (110) The error occurred on line 44 in /srv/www/minetest.net/www/forum/include/dblayer/mysqli.php |
| 09:55 |
Max_001 |
Now I can't upload my work on the Minetest installer for Windows >.< |
| 09:55 |
Topywo |
Yes, a PunBB error (whatever it means). Happens sometimes. |
| 09:55 |
Max_001 |
ok |
| 09:56 |
Topywo |
The 2 I noticed lasted around 2 days, but my memory leaks... |
| 09:56 |
Max_001 |
is it OK to ask what's going on at #minetest-dev? |
| 09:57 |
Topywo |
Idk. I didn't know it exists next to this and -delta :-) |
| 09:57 |
Max_001 |
lol |
| 09:58 |
Max_001 |
well I made an installer |
| 09:58 |
Max_001 |
it installs Minetest in a PC |
| 09:58 |
Max_001 |
currently only for WIndows |
| 09:59 |
Max_001 |
if you want, you can try it by downloading it from http://node1.nirvanix.com/Zv6lYeJW~QiYcc42mr1~MSoqnAyZ~mt0PY94Vg1~r_bFcak/FreeDrive/fd_373675/Minetest_stuff/minetest-INSTALLER-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.ZIP?disposition=attachment |
| 09:59 |
Topywo |
Does it give a choice for the version? |
| 09:59 |
Max_001 |
not yet... |
| 09:59 |
Topywo |
lol, I saw it in the link |
| 09:59 |
Max_001 |
it requires a different installer for every version |
| 10:00 |
Max_001 |
but that I will do... |
| 10:00 |
Max_001 |
or maybe add an installer that downloads the installer for the version you wish... |
| 10:01 |
Topywo |
That would be helpfull |
| 10:01 |
Max_001 |
next I plan to add ''optional mods'' that allows one to download some mods like Mesecons or MoreOres |
| 10:01 |
Topywo |
Lately it looks like 'starters' have more trouble installing texture-packs than mods |
| 10:02 |
Max_001 |
yep :P |
| 10:02 |
Max_001 |
maybe I can add optional texture packs too :D |
| 10:03 |
Topywo |
Maintaining those installers can be time-consuming? |
| 10:03 |
Max_001 |
I use Google Chrome and in the ''new tab'' page there's a thumbnail for the Minetest forum - the title of it is stuck as ''Error - PunBB'' lol |
| 10:03 |
Max_001 |
and yesh it can be |
| 10:03 |
Max_001 |
time consuming |
| 10:04 |
Max_001 |
but I will only make installers for the ''important'' releases, not all nightly builds. |
| 10:04 |
Topywo |
Last nightly build was the most important :-p |
| 10:05 |
Max_001 |
yeah but I mean, only the ones that are important, and that nightly build :P |
| 10:05 |
Max_001 |
and maybe some others that are important |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
<Max_001> Now I can't upload my work on the Minetest installer for Windows >.< |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSIONNO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
NO PERMISSION |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
^ installers |
| 10:05 |
Max_001 |
Wha...? |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
why use installers when you can use PORTABLE zip files? |
| 10:06 |
Max_001 |
it IS a zip file :P |
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Max_001 |
an installer in a zip file |
| 10:06 |
Max_001 |
and the installer was made with NSIS so it is a ''zip''ed file too |
| 10:07 |
Max_001 |
and what's with the spam about ''NO PERMISSION''? |
| 10:07 |
Max_001 |
... |
| 10:07 |
Max_001 |
should I just report you as a spam bot? you're not answering, just like a spam bot... |
| 10:08 |
Max_001 |
okay I will... |
| 10:08 |
Topywo |
How do you make those installers, a particular computer language? |
| 10:08 |
Max_001 |
no I used NSIS |
| 10:09 |
Topywo |
I'll google it :-) |
| 10:09 |
Max_001 |
Nullsoft |
| 10:09 |
Max_001 |
yesh it is kinda hard to find tutorials :P |
| 10:09 |
Max_001 |
maybe I can even make installers for mods |
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Max_001 |
:D |
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Topywo |
Ok. Read it. |
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Max_001 |
? |
| 10:11 |
Max_001 |
read what? |
| 10:12 |
Topywo |
You just found it or do you have experience with it, NSIS |
| 10:12 |
Max_001 |
only about 2 hours of experience |
| 10:12 |
Max_001 |
lol |
| 10:12 |
Max_001 |
but I have found the basics of making an installer with it |
| 10:12 |
Topywo |
:-) |
| 10:12 |
Max_001 |
sorry, but I have to leave :P |
| 10:13 |
Topywo |
See you around |
| 10:13 |
Max_001 |
here's the link again if you want to try it: http://node1.nirvanix.com/Zv6lYeJW~QiYcc42mr1~MSoqnAyZ~mt0PY94Vg1~r_bFcak/FreeDrive/fd_373675/Minetest_stuff/minetest-INSTALLER-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.ZIP?disposition=attachment |
| 10:13 |
Max_001 |
see you later |
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| 10:13 |
Calinou |
-_- |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
hax |
| 10:14 |
Topywo |
I've only Linux |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
<Max_001> and what's with the spam about ''NO PERMISSION''? |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
<Max_001> ... |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
<Max_001> should I just report you as a spam bot? you're not answering, just like a spam bot... |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
LOL |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
lol seriously |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
lmao |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
no permission because, exe installers tend to bitch out about permissions, especially on win7 |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
installers always suck when you have portable zips |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
it's like packaged installs for linux software/games |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
always prefer the (sometimes self compiled) download |
| 10:15 |
Calinou |
not packages made by random noobuntuians |
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Topywo |
Ah, yes, I've experience with my system not willing to update anymore... |
| 10:15 |
Topywo |
I've a good cure for that |
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Topywo |
I just put in the latest installation CD of (L)ubuntu and reinstall... |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
lolubuntu |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
<Topywo> Ah, yes, I've experience with my system not willing to update anymore... |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
don't dist-upgrade |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
don't install random PPAs; PPA means Probably Packaged by Amateur |
| 10:19 |
Topywo |
Yes I did something like that. I guess the open repository caused the problems. When I closed it it upgraded (the standard updates I mean) again. |
| 10:20 |
Topywo |
I've not much knowledge of Linux... |
| 10:21 |
Topywo |
Luckily I can try things on ths computer. If it goes wrong, I just install again. |
| 10:22 |
Calinou |
forums are down :c |
| 10:22 |
Topywo |
Yes, the PunBB |
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Topywo |
gtg. bye |
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sfan5 |
oh! not again: Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (111) |
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sfan5 |
The error occurred on line 44 in /srv/www/minetest.net/www/forum/include/dblayer/mysqli.php |
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redcrab |
:( |
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sfan5 |
minetest forum down! :( |
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* Calinou |
is continuing the french translation of the lua API reference |
| 11:36 |
Calinou |
line 267 and counting |
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sfan5 |
:/ i want a german translation and i don't want to do it myself |
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redcrab |
Merci d'avance Calinou :) |
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alvin_rxg |
hi all. i'm compling the new celeron55-minetest-02fb912, and now the irrlicht has somehow problem.. lots of undefined reference.. |
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alvin_rxg |
log here http://uploadpie.com/sg4Vm |
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alvin_rxg |
os: debian stable. libirrlicht 1.7.1+dfsg1-1+b1 |
| 12:11 |
darkrose |
you don't have opengl headers installed |
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alvin_rxg |
ohoh.. cmake dosen't tell me about that.. =.= let me install it and make it again. |
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Staffijs |
Weird minetest.net works but minetest.net/forums doesn't :( |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
hi Staffijs |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
long time no see! |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
<alvin_rxg> hi all. i'm compling the new celeron55-minetest-02fb912, and now the irrlicht has somehow problem.. lots of undefined reference.. |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
isn't that some terribly old version? o,o |
| 12:18 |
Staffijs |
Hi Calinou :D |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
<alvin_rxg> ohoh.. cmake dosen't tell me about that.. =.= let me install it and make it again. |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
get real drivers :P |
| 12:18 |
alvin_rxg |
Calinou: i just download it several minutes ago |
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alvin_rxg |
Calinou: what do u mean with real drivers ? |
| 12:19 |
alvin_rxg |
installed libgl1-mesa-dev, not work.. |
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Calinou |
= get real drivers |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
are you using some terribly old ATI GPU, I guess? |
| 12:20 |
darkrose |
just ignore Calinou, he's our resident troll |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
:] yes, but I'm realist |
| 12:20 |
alvin_rxg |
Calinou: yes.. =.= ati x2300 |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
minetest requires opengl 1.2 to work |
| 12:20 |
Staffijs |
loool |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
2.0 is best though |
| 12:22 |
alvin_rxg |
Calinou: do u mean this? ===>>> server glx version string: 1.2 |
| 12:22 |
alvin_rxg |
or OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1 |
| 12:24 |
Calinou |
should work |
| 12:25 |
alvin_rxg |
still cannot compile |
| 12:26 |
Staffijs |
Hey what happens in minetest at +31000 is there a big wall orrr what :D ? |
| 12:26 |
Calinou |
Staffijs, no bedrock (yet?) |
| 12:26 |
Calinou |
the limit is +-30912 now |
| 12:26 |
Calinou |
used to be +-30976 yes |
| 12:27 |
Calinou |
alvin_rxg, cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 again |
| 12:27 |
Staffijs |
humm i will go check myself :D |
| 12:27 |
Calinou |
(run in place is better) |
| 12:27 |
Calinou |
Staffijs, gameboom is still up, uses latest 0.4 snapshot (not nightly/git) |
| 12:27 |
alvin_rxg |
Calinou: ok |
| 12:27 |
Calinou |
nyanland = griefed due to falling sand/gravel, lol |
| 12:27 |
Calinou |
I fixed it somehow |
| 12:29 |
Staffijs |
Calinou: If it still has its uber-security system then i forgot my passwd :D |
| 12:30 |
Staffijs |
I really like how somebody implemented sun & moon // Love it |
| 12:30 |
Calinou |
c55 |
| 12:30 |
Calinou |
yeah it's nice |
| 12:30 |
Calinou |
but sun/moon textures are hardcoded |
| 12:30 |
Calinou |
stars too |
| 12:31 |
Staffijs |
So they arent pictures but coded huh? |
| 12:31 |
Staffijs |
Hey how do i teleport (the command) |
| 12:32 |
Calinou |
you must have "teleport" privilege. "bring" to bring other people to you using command |
| 12:32 |
Calinou |
/teleport to_name |
| 12:32 |
Calinou |
/teleport X,Y,Z |
| 12:33 |
Staffijs |
thx |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
/teleport name X,Y,Z (requires bring) |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
/teleport name to_name (requires bring) |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
also: you can now see privileges of other players without having "privs". /privs name |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
also: /help [all] |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
also: see the wiki |
| 12:33 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.com |
| 12:34 |
Staffijs |
.net isnt it ? |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
no |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
it's an external site, but it is considered as the official wiki |
| 12:42 |
alvin_rxg |
Calinou: with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 works. but could it be installed into /usr/local/ ? |
| 12:42 |
Calinou |
-_- never do this |
| 12:42 |
Calinou |
either disable it and MT personal data will be in ~/.minetest |
| 12:42 |
Calinou |
or enable it and MT personal data will be in the folder where you put your stuff |
| 12:43 |
Calinou |
/usr/local/ fanboyism is a bad habit |
| 12:43 |
alvin_rxg |
o_O |
| 12:43 |
alvin_rxg |
fine. copy to a safe place, and play. let me enjoy it anyway |
| 12:47 |
Staffijs |
oh i see i went to the 30912 and it just doesnt generate further like a force field |
| 12:48 |
Japa_werk_ |
Calinou, what about D:/Games? |
| 12:48 |
Japa_werk_ |
... |
| 12:48 |
Japa_werk_ |
that was supposed to be a drive path, not an ohgod face |
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Calinou |
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/lua_api_fr.txt |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
french translation of lua_api.txt, not finished. |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
permanent link; updates automatically uploaded |
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Calinou |
redcrab, ^ :) |
| 14:15 |
Calinou |
hi aspiremint |
| 14:15 |
aspiremint |
hi |
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Calinou |
MT forums back up |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
hi CIA-116 |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
cisoun* |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
cisoun, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/lua_api_fr.txt |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
traduction en français de la doc (non-fini) |
| 14:22 |
Calinou |
j'en suis à la ligne 330 |
| 14:23 |
Calinou |
un truc comme ça |
| 14:23 |
cisoun |
je check |
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cisoun |
non d'un chien j'ai des problèmes d'encodage utf-8/iso... |
| 14:23 |
cisoun |
je vois pas les accents /o\ |
| 14:24 |
cisoun |
ah t'es en iso-8859-1 |
| 14:24 |
cisoun |
tu devrais passer en utf-8 |
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aspiremint |
(have redcrab website?) |
| 14:25 |
cisoun |
Calinou: après je t'aidrais bien à traduire un peu mais peut-être à la fin de la semaine si je peux parce que là je dois déjà finir de bosser sur quelques trucs |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
sfan5 no longer has an avatar :o |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
cisoun, ok |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
<cisoun> tu devrais passer en utf-8 |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
ok ^^ |
| 14:27 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: :D |
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* Calinou |
est sur windows |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
va falloir que je remette tous les accents... |
| 14:30 |
cisoun |
ah ok j'ai rien dis alors /o\ |
| 14:30 |
cisoun |
non non c'est bon |
| 14:30 |
cisoun |
mais je suis étonné que chromium n'ait pas adapté le codage |
| 14:32 |
Calinou |
je remets tous les accents quand même |
| 14:32 |
Calinou |
moins de linuxiens qui m'enguelent \o/ |
| 14:33 |
redcrab |
aspiremint : I do not own official website .. Currently for Minetest I use minetest.net/forum ... |
| 14:33 |
cisoun |
Calinou: on s'en fout des linuxiens, te fais pas chier. |
| 14:34 |
redcrab |
Comment ça en s'en fout ... nom mais oh .. puis quoi encore cent balles et un mars :D |
| 14:34 |
cisoun |
Pourquoi pas. 8 ) |
| 14:34 |
cisoun |
(en plus c'est moi qui dit ça, un Archlinuxien...) |
| 14:35 |
redcrab |
Ah ok .. tu as donc unprobleme avec tes toilettes |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
:o t'es sur arch |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
je croyais que t'étais sur ubuntu |
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* Calinou |
n'aime pas arch |
| 14:35 |
cisoun |
ça c'était y'a longtemps |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
je préfère debian |
| 14:35 |
redcrab |
Arch est extra pour les admins |
| 14:36 |
cisoun |
debian c'est bien aussi mais je suis trop bidouilleur |
| 14:36 |
cisoun |
et le gestionnaire de paquets d'arch est tellement rapide que je peux plus m'en passer |
| 14:36 |
redcrab |
debian est trop geek et universitaire a mon gout (pas de finiolage , ergonomie douteuse ... ) |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
c'est bon! |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
oui |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
euh non |
| 14:37 |
Calinou |
je croyais que tu parlais d'arch |
| 14:38 |
redcrab |
Ubuntu est super pour les noobs ... mais pour les admins ça manque de consoles intelligente |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
la doc officielle de debian fait peur je sais, on est au 21ème siècle depuis un moment |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
ubuntu > mint |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
mint = buggé |
| 14:38 |
Calinou |
MATE = TRES buggé |
| 14:39 |
redcrab |
fedora est pas mal pour son coté un peu plus pro mais manque de finition pour etre emplyé comme desktop de Monsieur tout le monde |
| 14:40 |
redcrab |
Puppy , c'est le couteau suisse a avoir partout ... |
| 14:41 |
marktraceur |
Mes amis, on a plein de gens ici qui ne parlent pas francais--est-ce que c'est possible de registrer #minetest-fr, peut-etre? |
| 14:41 |
Calinou |
fedora, bof |
| 14:41 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, "registrer" > "enregistrer" |
| 14:41 |
Calinou |
"peut-etre" > "peut-être" |
| 14:41 |
Calinou |
^^ |
| 14:41 |
redcrab |
... may we carry on in english .... |
| 14:42 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Merci, et je n'ai aucun cle d'accent....(and my grammar is atrocious, I'm sure) |
| 14:42 |
Calinou |
aucun > aucune |
| 14:42 |
marktraceur |
redcrab: Aye, that works best, but I'd welcome an -fr channel |
| 14:42 |
Calinou |
/join #minetest-fr |
| 14:42 |
redcrab |
cle ? |
| 14:42 |
Calinou |
(lol) |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
just so that other people can't register it :D |
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marktraceur |
redcrab: Key? *shrug* I never learned the words for technology, really |
| 14:45 |
redcrab |
a key for a lock = une clé or une clef .... a key for a keyboard = une touche ... |
| 14:45 |
marktraceur |
touche, got it |
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marktraceur |
(and as I was trying to explain there, I can't type accents, so I'd have to say "clef" :) ) |
| 14:46 |
redcrab |
okidoki, I've understood :D |
| 14:47 |
redcrab |
but nvm most young french speaking .. when they chat, rarely use the accents... |
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NakedFury |
hello people |
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marktraceur |
NakedFury, Hullo! |
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MiJyn_ |
yo |
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marktraceur |
MiJyn_, Suuuup |
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MiJyn_ |
sick, you? |
| 17:00 |
marktraceur |
Not sick, at work |
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MiJyn_ |
what do you work for? |
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marktraceur |
MiJyn_, I'm contracting with the Wikimedia Foundation |
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MiJyn_ |
nice! what do you do there? |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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MiJyn_ |
hi Vanessa |
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jordach |
MiJyn_, im up to something with an old ver of mi netest |
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marktraceur |
MiJyn_, various stuff |
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MiJyn_ |
jordach, awesome! |
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marktraceur |
Currently: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EtherEditor |
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MiJyn_ |
marktraceur, mark holmquist? |
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marktraceur |
MiJyn_, That's the one |
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MiJyn_ |
that's you? |
| 17:06 |
marktraceur |
(confirm with /whois if you'd like) |
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marktraceur |
Yes, in short, it's me |
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MiJyn_ |
so you program extensions? |
| 17:07 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn_, I have done. |
| 17:07 |
marktraceur |
Also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_tools/Org_chart_tool |
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jordach |
wow my desktop now loks clean |
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MiJyn_ |
cool! |
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jordach |
almost filled it |
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jordach |
now has 5 icons |
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MiJyn_ |
huh? |
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MiJyn_ |
explorer.exe? |
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jordach |
my desktop is empty, yes presicelu |
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MiJyn_ |
wow |
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jordach |
win 7 icons are 256 8 256 |
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jordach |
* 256 |
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marktraceur |
*pixels*? |
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marktraceur |
That's huge! |
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MiJyn_ |
that's small! |
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redcrab |
.svg icon rocks :) |
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jordach |
:( |
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redcrab |
jordach ... you're still alive ... I thought that you've quit minetest ... |
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jordach |
yep |
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marktraceur |
256px: http://www.xn--icne-wqa.com/images/icones/1/4/animals-gnu.png |
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jordach |
irc now |
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marktraceur |
That's huge for a desktop |
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redcrab |
less griefer on irc ...lol |
| 17:27 |
marktraceur |
You could fit maybe 10 things on the screen |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
might be okay for those of us whose eyesight stinks ;-) |
| 17:27 |
jordach |
redcrab, ill be on mt per few days |
| 17:29 |
redcrab |
yep ... detoxication cure ... quit slowly but surely :D |
| 17:30 |
marktraceur |
Oh, jordach, what are you doing with the old minetest? |
| 17:30 |
jordach |
a heavily memfixed version |
| 17:30 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE, damn it, I forgot to go to the optometrist |
| 17:31 |
marktraceur |
(I started that chat message with an entirely different intent, but suddenly remembered) |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 17:40 |
jordach |
http://pastebin.com/6tEXBjkw MY LIST |
| 17:42 |
marktraceur |
jordach, Interesting. |
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MiJyn_ |
I wonder why everyone uses pastebin... |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
because it works? :-) |
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MiJyn_ |
it's terrible |
| 17:49 |
MiJyn_ |
there are so many others which are amazing |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
it's good enough :-) |
| 17:51 |
MiJyn_ |
even pastie.org which is less characters to type |
| 17:52 |
* marktraceur |
has tried dpaste, it works out OK |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
to type? |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
who the heck types URLs anymore? |
| 17:54 |
MiJyn_ |
/me |
| 17:54 |
VanessaE |
um, copy&paste? or click on the link your irc client surely gives you? |
| 17:55 |
MiJyn_ |
it doesnt :P |
| 17:56 |
marktraceur |
<obtuse>What is copy paste? irssi, screen, and lynx do not offer me this feature....</obtuse> |
| 17:57 |
MiJyn_ |
yep! neither does byobu |
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darkrose |
most X terminals have a 'copy on highlight' feature by default |
| 17:59 |
marktraceur |
When I'm using gnome-terminal, yes, I have links :P |
| 17:59 |
MiJyn_ |
yeah, but we hardcore geeks do not use X :P |
| 17:59 |
darkrose |
MiJyn_: there's also mouse drivers for the console that do the same thing |
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* marktraceur |
goes back to creating huge red blocks of error messages |
| 17:59 |
MiJyn_ |
darkrose, yeah, GPM |
| 18:00 |
MiJyn_ |
exactly marktraceur! |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
My screen makes me sad sometimes: http://i.imgur.com/xqW8D.png |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
<MiJyn_> yeah, but we hardcore geeks do not use X :P |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
lol |
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| 18:02 |
d0c01 |
hello! |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
<redcrab> .svg icon rocks :) |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
YAY SLOWNESS |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
hi d0c01 |
| 18:02 |
MiJyn_ |
calinou, I use ASCII Minetest :P |
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| 18:05 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn_, Or maybe you're just using Wayland? :P |
| 18:07 |
jordach |
ZING! |
| 18:07 |
MiJyn_ |
marktraceur, I wonder if Ubuntu is gonna switch to that |
| 18:10 |
d0c01 |
sorry for bad english, i'm here to ask a little thing, i'm trying to understand how mobs will be in lua. It will be like an "animals" mod or something more "built in"? if i want to create a mob of mine, i must use the item_entity.lua? (i have already seen the animals mod but i can't understand it all) |
| 18:13 |
MiJyn_ |
d0c01, we do not know yet as C55 hasn't told us |
| 18:14 |
jordach |
C55 = lazy bastard |
| 18:14 |
jordach |
my 0.2 make will be updated every now and then |
| 18:14 |
jordach |
since its lightning |
| 18:14 |
marktraceur |
Haha, jordach has high hopes for this fork :) |
| 18:15 |
jordach |
(also, endless maps |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
wayland? |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
<d0c01> sorry for bad english, i'm here to ask a little thing, i'm trying to understand how mobs will be in lua. It will be like an "animals" mod or something more "built in"? if i want to create a mob of mine, i must use the item_entity.lua? (i have already seen the animals mod but i can't understand it all) |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
animals mod can go fuck itself |
| 18:17 |
jordach |
^ YEP |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
people need to quit being lazy and instead, put all the AI stuff in C++, only keep a moderate part of stuff in lua. health, speed, textures, etc. |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
AND PLEASE, NO "SPRITES". I WANT FLAT PLANES. |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
(or ideally, extruded planes) |
| 18:19 |
d0c01 |
flat planes == a single image not animated? |
| 18:20 |
Bad_Command |
Get busy with that AI in C++ calinou |
| 18:21 |
d0c01 |
what is much active in developing, the fork or minetestc55? |
| 18:21 |
d0c01 |
(forks?) |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
Calinou: arguably accessing health, speed, textures etc from Lua, from C++ isn't much faster than just doing the logic in Lua. But it's true prudent code design is crucial for function. |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
and sprites are flat planes :< |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
Bad_Command, ik |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
I mean |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
go find capable coders :< |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
yeah but they turn to you, "billboard" |
| 18:22 |
cy1 |
different on the front and back but |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
hate this |
| 18:22 |
marktraceur |
d0c01, Too early to tell. Since jordach is currently in the chat, and c55 has dropped from the face of the earth, the evidence is good that the fork will be active. |
| 18:23 |
marktraceur |
However, not currently clear how good it will be. |
| 18:23 |
cy1 |
oh, so they act like drops |
| 18:23 |
marktraceur |
jordach, no offense, I don't have any evidence yet. |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
jordach's forks: "collect items when stepped on" "make items decay" "make items drop when mined" "tweak animations" |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
inb4 these 4 commits |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
aka annoying stuff from MC |
| 18:23 |
cy1 |
jeez give c55 a break already he was just committing like what a month ago |
| 18:24 |
cy1 |
Calinou: to be fair, items not decaying is one of the big problems in minetest where sapling drops slowly cover the map and lag clients. |
| 18:25 |
cy1 |
but better IMO to fix leafdecay not to drop saplings than decay items |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
items decaying are fine |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
"lag the clients" |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
-_- |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
only a few tris |
| 18:25 |
jordach |
marktraceur, read this again http://pastebin.com/6tEXBjkw |
| 18:25 |
* Calinou |
hates item decay I mean |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
remove decorative uses of some decorative items |
| 18:25 |
jordach |
im only adding very little to the OLD SOURCE |
| 18:25 |
jordach |
and basic block api |
| 18:26 |
d0c01 |
i think an easy solution could be the /pulverize made more "fast" like a shortcut from keyboard |
| 18:26 |
jordach |
NO TOOLS |
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| 18:26 |
cy1 |
tbf the only item drops I ever saw noticable lag was like dropping over 9000 in a small area |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
d0c01, pulverize key, nah |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
you could use console and "up arrow" to "re-type" the command quickly |
| 18:26 |
cy1 |
d0c01: I think the entire inventory should be pulverizable 8| |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 18:27 |
* Calinou |
would like to see chat macros |
| 18:27 |
d0c01 |
who does not want a "pulverize key", all the destructive power in a key!XD |
| 18:27 |
cy1 |
sneak needs to be a toggle |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
toggle sneak, yeah, as an option |
| 18:27 |
jordach |
hmm |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
checkbox in "change keys" |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
;) |
| 18:27 |
cy1 |
you're holding shift and you go to your inventory, dead |
| 18:27 |
jordach |
cy1, skyblock is BAD FOR THAT |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
default inv key needs to be E not I |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
much more efficient |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
although minecrafty |
| 18:28 |
cy1 |
jordach: what's skyblock? |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
and drop key, G |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Q fucks up with azerty |
| 18:28 |
jordach |
survive on a tiny little island |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
it's getting extremely annoying with newcomers |
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cy1 |
Calinou: e and i are both on the same finger, different hands, in qwerty |
| 18:28 |
cy1 |
me I just set my own keycodes |
| 18:29 |
cy1 |
oh also |
| 18:29 |
cy1 |
also |
| 18:29 |
cy1 |
minetest needs public key authentication :T |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
code it |
| 18:29 |
cy1 |
right then |
| 18:29 |
* cy1 |
disappears for 3 months |
| 18:30 |
* jordach |
uses a time machine to bring cy1 back to the present |
| 18:30 |
marktraceur |
jordach, I'm not sure abandoning 0.3 and 0.4 changes is necessary to make minetest better, but I'm willing to be shown that it will work |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
seen how sloppy the commits came? |
| 18:31 |
marktraceur |
jordach, since 0.2 was under GPL, I assume you'll be using that license? |
| 18:31 |
cy1 |
jordach: couldn't you just use a time machine to get the code from the future so we don't have to write it? :( |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
cy1: no |
| 18:31 |
cy1 |
it worked in terminator |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
i wanna work for it, not BE SPOON FED |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
marktraceur, minetest became LGPL |
| 18:32 |
jordach |
so it SHOULD include 0.2 |
| 18:32 |
jordach |
0.2 runs like a dream |
| 18:32 |
marktraceur |
jordach, But not the 0.2 code, not necessarily anyway....I suppose you could make the argument that it applies retroactively, but it would be an interesting case |
| 18:32 |
jordach |
marktraceur, well see sometime when it starts getting some work |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
why in earth does he want to fork 0.2? |
| 18:33 |
jordach |
Calinou, 0.3 can even lag for me - and i hate the leaf decay |
| 18:34 |
jordach |
(my pc can give MC 40fps) |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
"Dynamic Day / night (Sorry - lags badly)" |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
jordach is an idiot. |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
the old cycle was SLOWER |
| 18:34 |
jordach |
Calinou, not for me |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
also, all he wants to add is shitty blockplanet-y stuff |
| 18:34 |
jordach |
im thinking of POS machines |
| 18:34 |
marktraceur |
Children, play nice |
| 18:35 |
jordach |
Calinou, not really, just the things like settable seeds, new ores, mese tools |
| 18:35 |
jordach |
mobs - everyone wants them |
| 18:36 |
jordach |
memory leaks esp. |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
no. |
| 18:36 |
jordach |
Calinou, mobs MIGHT get omitted |
| 18:38 |
jordach |
minetest used to be about developing something nice |
| 18:39 |
jordach |
(for the end user that is, i also plan on making maps one big zip archive) |
| 18:39 |
d0c01 |
it's just me or with animals mod it goes much slower?(i have not much fast hardware, is the main reason why i am searching to enable some built in mobs to play all alone, sadly also the connection sucks :) ) |
| 18:39 |
jordach |
yep |
| 18:40 |
jordach |
thats what i like about my ork design |
| 18:40 |
jordach |
simplicity |
| 18:40 |
darkrose |
o.2 was released under the GPL, you can't just change the license without the copyright holders' permission |
| 18:40 |
jordach |
ooh |
| 18:40 |
jordach |
then it'll stay |
| 18:40 |
jordach |
as GPL |
| 18:40 |
marktraceur |
darkrose, good call |
| 18:41 |
darkrose |
:) |
| 18:41 |
marktraceur |
Oh, if anyone's trying to connect to my server, it's decidedly down. Sorry about that. |
| 18:41 |
jordach |
marktraceur, 0.3 had FOUR folders, not 100 |
| 18:41 |
darkrose |
your whole domain is timing out |
| 18:42 |
marktraceur |
darkrose, Yeah, either my network is down or the server's network config got trashed again |
| 18:42 |
darkrose |
:/ |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
I was persuaded into configuring a static IP on the LAN |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
That didn't work out so hot |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
I think at the very least, I need to work out a way to auto-fix it |
| 18:43 |
marktraceur |
(cron job to restart networking or something) |
| 18:44 |
darkrose |
heh, my whole network is publicly addressed, due to laziness setting it up |
| 18:45 |
d0c01 |
where can i find an old scriptapi.cpp? i want to re-add rats to my personal bin :) |
| 18:48 |
d0c01 |
(older sourcecode would be better) |
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MiJyn_ |
go to github repo and click on commits |
| 19:13 |
MiJyn_ |
click on NEXT a LOT |
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d0c01 |
thanks! |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:14 |
d0c01 |
hello! |
| 19:15 |
marktraceur |
Lol |
| 19:15 |
marktraceur |
"click on NEXT a LOT" |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, do you hate installers too? :P |
| 19:15 |
marktraceur |
d0c01, git bisect would probably get you there a lot faster :P |
| 19:15 |
* Calinou |
segfaulted. |
| 19:15 |
marktraceur |
Calinou, if I can do it in a much cooler way, absolutely :P |
| 19:23 |
d0c01 |
wow, making blocks falling seems easy in init.lua stuff |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
we need plantlike entities :( |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
so that we can have falling apples |
| 19:24 |
* Calinou |
also wants iron apples back. :( |
| 19:25 |
d0c01 |
making apples falling or you mean something else? (i'm not much good in english) |
| 19:26 |
d0c01 |
i also want falling apples, Newton rulez!\m/ |
| 19:26 |
d0c01 |
but i'm not finding apples in init.lua in default/ |
| 19:27 |
d0c01 |
let's grep!:P |
| 19:28 |
d0c01 |
oh lol, here it is |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
apples do not generate naturally anymore; probably a bug |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
only from sapling-grown trees |
| 19:30 |
* Calinou |
also wants more food |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
like, small strawberry plants, like on gameboom |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
but smaller |
| 19:30 |
marktraceur |
I think that's in nature, FYI |
| 19:30 |
d0c01 |
Calinou, maybe is not apple's season!XD |
| 19:31 |
marktraceur |
I would argue that it is, but since minetest has no concept of seasons....whaddyagonnado? |
| 19:32 |
d0c01 |
i'm going to read this: src/mapgen.cpp: MapNode applenode(ndef->getId("mapgen_apple")); |
| 19:32 |
d0c01 |
maybe somewhere in there.. |
| 19:34 |
d0c01 |
it's me or also jungle trees are vanished? |
| 19:34 |
d0c01 |
i never seen jungle* |
| 19:36 |
marktraceur |
d0c01, IIRC, jungle still generates, but much more rarely |
| 19:38 |
d0c01 |
i have tryed to go to the end of the world some night ago searching for jungle grass, but never seen it! maybe is just a distraction of mine :) |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
d0c01, Did you download the minetest_game? |
| 19:39 |
d0c01 |
mapgen.lua is used anytime or just on creating a new world? |
| 19:39 |
d0c01 |
marktraceur, yes! |
| 19:39 |
marktraceur |
d0c01, All block generation, I believe |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
no jungles at all |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
in new map gen |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
only "normal" & desert |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
"jungles were boring" ~c55 |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
adds boring deserts |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
MEME |
| 19:42 |
d0c01 |
c55 loves sand castles and hates monkeys?XD |
| 19:43 |
d0c01 |
mapgen.lua has only a register_alias about trees |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
c55 loves "interesting" and hates "boring" or "random", but his definitions of each are....questionable :-) |
| 19:45 |
d0c01 |
apple generation i think should be in C++ code, not lua |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
it is in C++ |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
not lua |
| 19:47 |
d0c01 |
thanks! |
| 19:47 |
d0c01 |
you saved me the reading of 1894 lines |
| 19:47 |
d0c01 |
XD |
| 19:47 |
Calinou |
lol |
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marktraceur |
Ah, passing tests, 100% code coverage |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
It will never look this beautiful again |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
/ @codeCoverageIgnoreStart |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
Augh |
| 19:54 |
marktraceur |
http://i.imgur.com/QQ5Cd.png |
| 20:01 |
MiJyn_ |
naice job! |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
minor mod updates; git repo updated |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
huh, |
| 20:04 |
marktraceur |
MiJyn_, That window is now my desktop background |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
what's that, marktraceur? o,o |
| 20:04 |
marktraceur |
I'm seriously considering getting a framed copy |
| 20:04 |
marktraceur |
Calinou, Test results for my MW extension |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
k |
| 20:05 |
* marktraceur |
searches for framing services in the area |
| 20:09 |
marktraceur |
Hm, asspensive. |
| 20:10 |
* marktraceur |
searches for small lumber and clear plastic sheeting in the area |
| 20:12 |
jordach |
marktraceur, modern warfare extension? |
| 20:12 |
marktraceur |
jordach, ew! No, MediaWiki |
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jordach |
lol |
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d0c01 |
an appleeeee!:O |
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marktraceur |
Thanks to an amazing roommate, my server returns to service |
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jordach|tablet |
lol |
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jordach|tablet |
that was fast |
| 21:17 |
marktraceur |
jordach|tablet: What was? |
| 21:17 |
jordach|tablet |
log off and in |
| 21:18 |
marktraceur |
Oh, yeah |
| 21:18 |
marktraceur |
I did both sort of simultaneously in a way |
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MiJyn_ |
Calinou, I read what you said on MC not using 256MB... and... idgaf |
| 21:20 |
MiJyn_ |
it's wrong |
| 21:20 |
MiJyn_ |
mc has no memory leaks, since it uses Java |
| 21:22 |
d0c01 |
any italian in there? i'm watching at minetest.po, if needed i can add some more translations |
| 21:23 |
MiJyn_ |
do translations even work? |
| 21:23 |
d0c01 |
i don't know, now i make -j and i'll tell you! |
| 21:25 |
MiJyn_ |
ok! |
| 21:26 |
d0c01 |
being honest i don't know how useful could be a translation i minetest for now..but let's do it!:D |
| 21:26 |
d0c01 |
*in |
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MiJyn_ |
I don't think it would work, as I don't think Minetest uses gettext anymore |
| 21:27 |
d0c01 |
a cmake flag about gettext is still in there, by default is 0 |
| 21:28 |
MiJyn_ |
yeah... looking at the source code, I don't see anything that still uses it |
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d0c01 |
you are right, no translations. |
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d0c01 |
i think is not a problem for now, is much "just dig and shut up" :D |
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NakedFury |
hi peoples |
| 23:19 |
marktraceur |
Hi, objects |
| 23:20 |
NakedFury |
what are you up to lord marktraceur? |
| 23:21 |
marktraceur |
Well, sirrah, since ye asked, the lot of us are travelling to the faire to see a visual feast! Strange beasts from strange and faraway lands, performing various stunts for their pay! |
| 23:23 |
NakedFury |
well enjoy it. I will enjoy my pizza |
| 23:24 |
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| 23:25 |
marktraceur |
Well, that was underwhelming |
| 23:26 |
NakedFury |
the festival of stunt animals? |
| 23:27 |
marktraceur |
No, your reaction to it |
| 23:46 |
marktraceur |
Does anyone have a link to the stress test results from minetest.ru? |
| 23:51 |
NakedFury |
not me, havent been here most of the day |
| 23:52 |
marktraceur |
Oh, I found it |
| 23:52 |
marktraceur |
http://minetest.ru/plot_final.png |
| 23:52 |
marktraceur |
It was some time ago, actually |
