Time Nick Message 00:22 Riddle yo, just got in 00:23 MiJyn yo 00:24 Riddle sup? 00:24 Riddle sorry i was afk, was 60 miles away picking a tank for my lizard 00:25 MiJyn oh 00:25 MiJyn wha? 01:02 Riddle was shopping 01:02 Riddle now on my MC server doing work 01:03 MiJyn ah! 01:03 MiJyn could I join? 01:03 Riddle currently only staff :( on august 3rd its open to all i think 01:04 MiJyn ok 01:04 MiJyn mineshafter? 01:04 MiJyn or minecraft? 01:04 Riddle craft 01:05 MiJyn online = true? 01:05 Riddle yeah 01:05 marktraceur Offtopic 01:05 MiJyn marktraceur, totally ontopic 01:06 marktraceur MiJyn: Oh, right, this is #minecraft 01:07 marktraceur I had forgotten 01:07 MiJyn marktraceur, you have a poor memory! 01:07 marktraceur And I'm the king of the gorram leprechauns 01:07 * marktraceur is off to protect the emerald isle 01:07 Riddle :D 01:08 marktraceur Riddle: Please discuss Minecraft where it's relevant, thanks 01:09 Riddle sorry >.> 01:09 Riddle no one was talking at all 01:09 marktraceur Even so 01:09 Riddle didn't think i was >offending 01:09 Riddle i won't tho :) 01:10 marktraceur Not offending, but it's off-topic 01:10 Riddle i can open as many copys of xchat as i need, much be a #mc 01:10 Riddle must* 01:11 MiJyn ah right marktraceur, we are _always_ on topic here... ALWAYS... never are we off topic, oh, never 01:11 MiJyn xD 01:11 Riddle :P 01:12 marktraceur MiJyn: True, we could do better 01:12 marktraceur Let's start! 01:12 Riddle anyways Mijyn, i can get you that server ip When its 'relivent' ;D 01:12 marktraceur Riddle: Private messages are a valid way to communicate, you know 01:12 MiJyn Riddle, ok! If it's online = false or mineshafter though 01:13 MiJyn marktraceur, private messages are for n00bs 01:13 * marktraceur sighs 01:13 Riddle idk how to pm here >.> 01:13 MiJyn REAL men communicate over an unguarded channel, trolling as much as we want 01:13 MiJyn xD 01:13 MiJyn jk 01:13 marktraceur 'm starting to see why c55 and jordach are so frustrated with this community 01:13 MiJyn lol 01:13 MiJyn yeah 01:13 MiJyn me too 01:13 Riddle hey :( a community doesn't need to be ontopic? 01:14 MiJyn of course not 01:14 MiJyn that's half of the point 01:14 MiJyn stay off-topic! :P 01:14 Riddle :D 01:17 marktraceur Riddle: Not that you're off-topic, that you have no interest in the topic at hand 01:18 MiJyn uh, wtf is the topic? 01:19 MiJyn it was more than an hour before Riddle sent his "yo, just got in" post 01:19 MiJyn like more than an hour before someone else posted before Riddle 01:19 MiJyn so I think that he doesn't need to be interested in the topic at hand lol 01:20 Riddle what topic? 01:20 marktraceur MiJyn: What's the name of this channel? 01:20 Riddle mt ? 01:20 marktraceur Riddle: Very good 01:20 Riddle mt = coolio :P 01:20 MiJyn marktraceur, "#krewella" 01:20 Riddle i have it. i have self made mods. i am interested 01:20 MiJyn :P 01:20 marktraceur MiJyn: The frustration continues 01:21 MiJyn :P 01:21 MiJyn lol 01:21 Riddle if riddle=not interested he wouldn't monitor this channel >.> 01:22 marktraceur It seems like 90% of the conversation in this channel is trolling. The other 10% is mostly about individual servers. It's frustrating. 01:22 MiJyn if marktraceur = interested, he would know that being off topic is normal 01:22 MiJyn marktraceur, perfect! 01:22 Riddle no prob dude. i'm just saying, i'm not a troll account 01:22 Riddle been here monitoring for about 2 weeks? 01:23 Riddle maybe 3? idk 01:23 MiJyn rly? 01:23 marktraceur I don't mind lurkers, it's fine to hang around and not chat 01:23 marktraceur But to come in and start by discussing minecraft seems a bit odd 01:23 Riddle i just afk and talk when i am modding, or spoken to 01:23 MiJyn but there is a problem in backseat moderating 01:24 Riddle i was spoken to and had no Time stamp, so i started a convo with sir Mijyn here 01:24 Riddle didn't know how long since the yo :( 01:24 MiJyn Riddle, you use Xchat too? 01:29 MiJyn marktraceur, have youever made any mods? 01:29 Riddle 9 >Implying this isn't green text 01:30 marktraceur MiJyn: Several, yes 01:30 MiJyn 6yes, that is green text 01:30 Riddle :D 01:30 MiJyn marktraceur, 4which? 01:31 marktraceur MiJyn: I rewrote Calinou's moreores, most recently 01:31 marktraceur I also made factories, and tech 01:31 cy1 heh rewrote 01:31 marktraceur Farther back was add_tool 01:31 MiJyn marktraceur, right, your library rewrite... lol 01:31 marktraceur Hrm? 01:31 cy1 I made a hydroponics module. :< 01:32 cy1 really should get around to testing that 01:32 Riddle :P 01:32 cy1 Was working on a "water destroyer" module 01:32 MiJyn cy1, oh, did you help mauvebic? 01:33 cy1 because floods can turn into source 01:33 MiJyn oh 01:39 marktraceur MiJyn: What do you mean by "library rewrite"? 01:39 MiJyn marktraceur, you added a library, right? 01:39 marktraceur Uh, no 01:39 MiJyn oh 01:40 marktraceur All I did was move the general stuff into a function, and call the function for all of the ores 01:41 cy1 my server overheated and died from generating a world map ;_; 01:41 cy1 MiJyn: can anyone be considered to have created a library underived from anything else? 01:44 MiJyn oh ok 01:45 * cy1 is so philosophical `-` 01:45 MiJyn lol 01:47 NakedFury I like your country cy1, Internic Non-Profit Organization 01:51 marktraceur NakedFury: They're a peaceful land, with cultures not unlike our own 01:52 cy1 :/ 01:52 cy1 see this is why fascism sucks 01:58 cy1 ugh, well I generated a map, but so much of the explored surface is unknown texture that it looks all wonky 01:58 NakedFury missing textures 01:59 NakedFury ? 01:59 cy1 yeah 01:59 cy1 mapgen tool doesn't use the actual texure files 01:59 cy1 and it's not lua so it can't load the modules or anything to find out what the files are 01:59 cy1 just a straight lookup table for what color what block is 01:59 cy1 only default: 01:59 marktraceur cy1: We could probably hack something together that makes it work with the Lua mods 02:00 cy1 nehh 02:00 cy1 I'm writing a minetest thingy to record the colors of stuff 02:00 cy1 as the client finds new textures 02:01 cy1 then use that db to generate a colors.txt file and send to the server. 02:01 marktraceur That could work 02:01 marktraceur Might be fine to just save colors.txt 02:01 marktraceur No DB 02:06 MiJyn ah, good idea 02:09 marktraceur cy1: You could add this to minetest core, a parameter to the node registration table that registers a color to colors.txt 02:10 cy1 marktraceur: or just something that calculates the average color. 02:10 cy1 no need to specify what it is 02:11 marktraceur cy1: Could default to calculate the color, but allow override 02:11 cy1 sure 02:12 cy1 trouble is, when the client sees a new item definition of type node, it builds a contentfeatures for that node type, then sets the mesh from the texture that was just sort of magically initialized without actually sending the image file over. 02:13 cy1 so getting a node's tile image uh... not sure how 02:15 cy1 ha I'll just grep debug.txt 02:15 cy1 no 02:16 cy1 that won't work because it still doesn't connect material to image 02:18 marktraceur cy1: There's almost certainly a property in each node definition 02:18 marktraceur cy1: If you can register the *filenames* to, e.g., textures.txt, the Python script should be able to figure out the rest 02:18 cy1 yeah...hm... 02:18 marktraceur (and I'll even write it!) 02:18 marktraceur (if you'd like) 02:19 marktraceur (because I've dealt with the likes of PIL before) 02:24 NakedFury ok so for a while now I had no idea what you guys were talking about 02:24 NakedFury and mentioning python just clued me in 02:24 NakedFury dammit im slow 02:27 marktraceur NakedFury: Nothing to be ashamed about, happens to the best of us 02:27 marktraceur Now, time for the ultimate decision 02:27 marktraceur A) Brave the streets of San Francisco on the Fourth to find food, B) Try to make food myself and fail miserably, or C) Order food from whatever crappy restaurant is open today 02:28 NakedFury go B 02:28 marktraceur Oof, that seems like the worst option to me 02:28 NakedFury Recipe: Bread, Meat, Cheese 02:29 marktraceur NakedFury: I'm in the Mission, so it's more like Recipe: Rice, beans, tortilla, cheese 02:29 marktraceur (high Latin-American population) 02:29 NakedFury ohh 02:30 NakedFury my type of food 02:33 marktraceur NakedFury: Orly? Meaning, you enjoy it a lot, or you are Latin-American? 02:34 NakedFury im from Puerto rico so I guess both 02:34 NakedFury but im not so good on the really spicy stuff 02:34 marktraceur Awesome 02:35 * marktraceur also doesn't like the spice so much 02:35 NakedFury I tolerate a small amount but nothing that makes it hard to stop drinking water or any other liquid 02:37 marktraceur Ha, I can see how that might be problematic 02:37 * marktraceur wonders if a more American meal should be in order 02:37 marktraceur cy1: If I'm out for ~1 hour, do you think you'll need a Python coder then? :) 02:39 marktraceur Anyway, I'm out, gonna get some hot dogs, gon' be delicious 02:39 cy1 ok got it sortof 02:52 marktraceur cy1: Want to push and I'll see what I can do after dinner maybe? 03:20 cy1 marktraceur: https://gitorious.org/minetest-cy/minetest-core/commit/6cd0fcc009361c6eb5f076803e80ccb7396da85c 03:21 cy1 Haven't tested if the colors are pretty. Average might be better to use than the median, but probably not. 03:29 marktraceur cy1: Kinda ugly-lookin' 03:30 marktraceur cy1: And you've committed your generated colors.txt, probably should remove it 03:30 cy1 uh, yeah well w/ev 03:31 cy1 sometimes having a (hopefully rarely) generated file in the repository isn't so bad 03:31 marktraceur cy1: Well, extra stuff in the repo, stuff that people might not need 03:31 marktraceur (madblocks, etc., are not always used) 03:31 cy1 about 2 minutes left before I can look at the map colors 03:31 MiJyn naice job! 03:31 cy1 I hesitated more about the findimages/ thing honestly. 03:32 cy1 It's just lua is the only damn way to find what tile images nodes have 03:32 marktraceur *nod* makes sense 03:32 marktraceur I like it, though, it looks pretty good 03:32 cy1 oops 03:32 cy1 water isn't walkable, is it ._. 03:32 marktraceur Lols, no 03:33 cy1 still should have its color though! 03:33 cy1 I guess if node.walkable then is a bad idea. 03:33 marktraceur cy1: light_propagates or whatever 03:33 marktraceur IIRC 03:33 cy1 ah, huh. 03:33 marktraceur sunlight_propagates 03:33 cy1 no, light propogates through water too 03:34 cy1 and glass 03:34 marktraceur cy1: Exactly, you want things with light_propagates to be more transparent 03:35 marktraceur Hm, it appears the original colors.txt doesn't deal with that 03:35 cy1 Water should be blue. 03:35 cy1 yeah I was going by the original setup 03:35 cy1 no alpha, no layers of map. 03:35 marktraceur cy1: Oh, I see what's happening 03:35 marktraceur The mapper treats default:glass and default:water with special cases 03:35 marktraceur Gotta fix that shit 03:37 marktraceur Hmmm. 03:37 marktraceur Maybe your best bet is to make a special case for water, however crappy that its 03:37 marktraceur is* 03:39 cy1 uh... hm... 03:39 cy1 well, we'll see. 03:42 cy1 you want to know what shit needs fixing 03:42 cy1 the map generator script reads the entire map into memory before drawing it 03:42 cy1 the e-n-t-i-r-e map 03:42 cy1 No wonder it takes so long! 03:46 cy1 It would actually be faster to use the slower setpixel routines, as the database spits out row results. Thus not making a uncompressed gigantic deserialized copy of all the relevant info for every point on the map. 03:51 marktraceur cy1: Agreed 04:02 cy1 ah, huh 04:03 cy1 the mapper compares adjacent blocks to get the color 04:03 cy1 for topology no doubt 04:03 cy1 uh... so it does need to have adjacent nodes. hm... 04:03 cy1 and the database is xyz not indexed by xz... 06:11 darkrose marktraceur: you're server hates me again 06:11 darkrose s/you're/your/ 06:53 Japa_werk marktraceur is the server. 06:53 Japa_werk And hates you, yes. 07:13 marktraceur darkrose: Apparently it's working now? 07:14 darkrose yes :) 07:14 marktraceur Mmmmkay 07:15 darkrose also 07:15 * darkrose slaps Japa_werk with a bucket of lava 07:15 Japa_werk :( 07:15 darkrose it was a friendly slap! 08:03 Stef__ hi do you guys know why the forum is down? 08:07 marktraceur Stef__: Nope! This happens from time to time, don't worry, it will be back up soon. 08:09 Stef__ ow ok 08:09 Stef__ thanks 09:06 brobostigon good morning everyone. 09:08 Topywo Good morning 09:09 brobostigon good morning Topywo 09:09 Topywo It's very quiet for at least 40 minutes :-) 09:12 brobostigon yep, i can see in my scroll back in irssi 09:13 Topywo The minetestsite(s) have a PunBB error. 09:14 Topywo So I decided to stay updated here :-D 09:15 brobostigon punbb, isnt that the forum software? 09:16 Topywo Yes, I also get "Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (110)" 09:16 Topywo Maybe maintenance, maybe some bits and bytes need to be rearranged, I've not much knowledge about that 09:17 brobostigon Topywo: i would poke celeron55 over in #minetest-delta, he hosts those. 09:18 brobostigon sorry, he isnt there, ummm. 09:18 Topywo I was just wrestling to open another window. 09:19 Topywo It's no problem, I can wait for days :-) 09:46 Topywo Hi Calinou 09:47 Calinou hi Topywo 09:54 Max_001 hello all :D 09:54 Topywo Hi Max 09:54 Max_001 Hey - I got an unusual error while trying to get on the forum: An error was encountered Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (110) The error occurred on line 44 in /srv/www/minetest.net/www/forum/include/dblayer/mysqli.php 09:55 Max_001 Now I can't upload my work on the Minetest installer for Windows >.< 09:55 Topywo Yes, a PunBB error (whatever it means). Happens sometimes. 09:55 Max_001 ok 09:56 Topywo The 2 I noticed lasted around 2 days, but my memory leaks... 09:56 Max_001 is it OK to ask what's going on at #minetest-dev? 09:57 Topywo Idk. I didn't know it exists next to this and -delta :-) 09:57 Max_001 lol 09:58 Max_001 well I made an installer 09:58 Max_001 it installs Minetest in a PC 09:58 Max_001 currently only for WIndows 09:59 Max_001 if you want, you can try it by downloading it from http://node1.nirvanix.com/Zv6lYeJW~QiYcc42mr1~MSoqnAyZ~mt0PY94Vg1~r_bFcak/FreeDrive/fd_373675/Minetest_stuff/minetest-INSTALLER-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.ZIP?disposition=attachment 09:59 Topywo Does it give a choice for the version? 09:59 Max_001 not yet... 09:59 Topywo lol, I saw it in the link 09:59 Max_001 it requires a different installer for every version 10:00 Max_001 but that I will do... 10:00 Max_001 or maybe add an installer that downloads the installer for the version you wish... 10:01 Topywo That would be helpfull 10:01 Max_001 next I plan to add ''optional mods'' that allows one to download some mods like Mesecons or MoreOres 10:01 Topywo Lately it looks like 'starters' have more trouble installing texture-packs than mods 10:02 Max_001 yep :P 10:02 Max_001 maybe I can add optional texture packs too :D 10:03 Topywo Maintaining those installers can be time-consuming? 10:03 Max_001 I use Google Chrome and in the ''new tab'' page there's a thumbnail for the Minetest forum - the title of it is stuck as ''Error - PunBB'' lol 10:03 Max_001 and yesh it can be 10:03 Max_001 time consuming 10:04 Max_001 but I will only make installers for the ''important'' releases, not all nightly builds. 10:04 Topywo Last nightly build was the most important :-p 10:05 Max_001 yeah but I mean, only the ones that are important, and that nightly build :P 10:05 Max_001 and maybe some others that are important 10:05 Calinou Now I can't upload my work on the Minetest installer for Windows >.< 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSIONNO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou NO PERMISSION 10:05 Calinou ^ installers 10:05 Max_001 Wha...? 10:06 Calinou why use installers when you can use PORTABLE zip files? 10:06 Max_001 it IS a zip file :P 10:06 Max_001 an installer in a zip file 10:06 Max_001 and the installer was made with NSIS so it is a ''zip''ed file too 10:07 Max_001 and what's with the spam about ''NO PERMISSION''? 10:07 Max_001 ... 10:07 Max_001 should I just report you as a spam bot? you're not answering, just like a spam bot... 10:08 Max_001 okay I will... 10:08 Topywo How do you make those installers, a particular computer language? 10:08 Max_001 no I used NSIS 10:09 Topywo I'll google it :-) 10:09 Max_001 Nullsoft 10:09 Max_001 yesh it is kinda hard to find tutorials :P 10:09 Max_001 maybe I can even make installers for mods 10:09 Max_001 :D 10:11 Topywo Ok. Read it. 10:11 Max_001 ? 10:11 Max_001 read what? 10:12 Topywo You just found it or do you have experience with it, NSIS 10:12 Max_001 only about 2 hours of experience 10:12 Max_001 lol 10:12 Max_001 but I have found the basics of making an installer with it 10:12 Topywo :-) 10:12 Max_001 sorry, but I have to leave :P 10:13 Topywo See you around 10:13 Max_001 here's the link again if you want to try it: http://node1.nirvanix.com/Zv6lYeJW~QiYcc42mr1~MSoqnAyZ~mt0PY94Vg1~r_bFcak/FreeDrive/fd_373675/Minetest_stuff/minetest-INSTALLER-0.4.dev-20120606-c57e508-win32.ZIP?disposition=attachment 10:13 Max_001 see you later 10:13 Calinou -_- 10:13 Calinou hax 10:14 Topywo I've only Linux 10:14 Calinou and what's with the spam about ''NO PERMISSION''? 10:14 Calinou ... 10:14 Calinou should I just report you as a spam bot? you're not answering, just like a spam bot... 10:14 Calinou LOL 10:14 Calinou lol seriously 10:14 Calinou lmao 10:14 Calinou no permission because, exe installers tend to bitch out about permissions, especially on win7 10:14 Calinou installers always suck when you have portable zips 10:14 Calinou it's like packaged installs for linux software/games 10:14 Calinou always prefer the (sometimes self compiled) download 10:15 Calinou not packages made by random noobuntuians 10:15 Topywo Ah, yes, I've experience with my system not willing to update anymore... 10:15 Topywo I've a good cure for that 10:16 Topywo I just put in the latest installation CD of (L)ubuntu and reinstall... 10:18 Calinou lolubuntu 10:18 Calinou Ah, yes, I've experience with my system not willing to update anymore... 10:18 Calinou don't dist-upgrade 10:18 Calinou don't install random PPAs; PPA means Probably Packaged by Amateur 10:19 Topywo Yes I did something like that. I guess the open repository caused the problems. When I closed it it upgraded (the standard updates I mean) again. 10:20 Topywo I've not much knowledge of Linux... 10:21 Topywo Luckily I can try things on ths computer. If it goes wrong, I just install again. 10:22 Calinou forums are down :c 10:22 Topywo Yes, the PunBB 10:32 Topywo gtg. bye 11:25 sfan5 oh! not again: Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Can't connect to MySQL server on '10.8.0.26' (111) 11:25 sfan5 The error occurred on line 44 in /srv/www/minetest.net/www/forum/include/dblayer/mysqli.php 11:26 redcrab :( 11:31 sfan5 minetest forum down! :( 11:36 * Calinou is continuing the french translation of the lua API reference 11:36 Calinou line 267 and counting 11:40 sfan5 :/ i want a german translation and i don't want to do it myself 12:02 redcrab Merci d'avance Calinou :) 12:10 alvin_rxg hi all. i'm compling the new celeron55-minetest-02fb912, and now the irrlicht has somehow problem.. lots of undefined reference.. 12:10 alvin_rxg log here http://uploadpie.com/sg4Vm 12:11 alvin_rxg os: debian stable. libirrlicht 1.7.1+dfsg1-1+b1 12:11 darkrose you don't have opengl headers installed 12:12 alvin_rxg ohoh.. cmake dosen't tell me about that.. =.= let me install it and make it again. 12:18 Staffijs Weird minetest.net works but minetest.net/forums doesn't :( 12:18 Calinou hi Staffijs 12:18 Calinou long time no see! 12:18 Calinou hi all. i'm compling the new celeron55-minetest-02fb912, and now the irrlicht has somehow problem.. lots of undefined reference.. 12:18 Calinou isn't that some terribly old version? o,o 12:18 Staffijs Hi Calinou :D 12:18 Calinou ohoh.. cmake dosen't tell me about that.. =.= let me install it and make it again. 12:18 Calinou get real drivers :P 12:18 alvin_rxg Calinou: i just download it several minutes ago 12:19 alvin_rxg Calinou: what do u mean with real drivers ? 12:19 alvin_rxg installed libgl1-mesa-dev, not work.. 12:19 Calinou = get real drivers 12:20 Calinou are you using some terribly old ATI GPU, I guess? 12:20 darkrose just ignore Calinou, he's our resident troll 12:20 Calinou :] yes, but I'm realist 12:20 alvin_rxg Calinou: yes.. =.= ati x2300 12:20 Calinou minetest requires opengl 1.2 to work 12:20 Staffijs loool 12:20 Calinou 2.0 is best though 12:22 alvin_rxg Calinou: do u mean this? ===>>> server glx version string: 1.2 12:22 alvin_rxg or OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1 12:24 Calinou should work 12:25 alvin_rxg still cannot compile 12:26 Staffijs Hey what happens in minetest at +31000 is there a big wall orrr what :D ? 12:26 Calinou Staffijs, no bedrock (yet?) 12:26 Calinou the limit is +-30912 now 12:26 Calinou used to be +-30976 yes 12:27 Calinou alvin_rxg, cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 again 12:27 Staffijs humm i will go check myself :D 12:27 Calinou (run in place is better) 12:27 Calinou Staffijs, gameboom is still up, uses latest 0.4 snapshot (not nightly/git) 12:27 alvin_rxg Calinou: ok 12:27 Calinou nyanland = griefed due to falling sand/gravel, lol 12:27 Calinou I fixed it somehow 12:29 Staffijs Calinou: If it still has its uber-security system then i forgot my passwd :D 12:30 Staffijs I really like how somebody implemented sun & moon // Love it 12:30 Calinou c55 12:30 Calinou yeah it's nice 12:30 Calinou but sun/moon textures are hardcoded 12:30 Calinou stars too 12:31 Staffijs So they arent pictures but coded huh? 12:31 Staffijs Hey how do i teleport (the command) 12:32 Calinou you must have "teleport" privilege. "bring" to bring other people to you using command 12:32 Calinou /teleport to_name 12:32 Calinou /teleport X,Y,Z 12:33 Staffijs thx 12:33 Calinou /teleport name X,Y,Z (requires bring) 12:33 Calinou /teleport name to_name (requires bring) 12:33 Calinou also: you can now see privileges of other players without having "privs". /privs name 12:33 Calinou also: /help [all] 12:33 Calinou also: see the wiki 12:33 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.com 12:34 Staffijs .net isnt it ? 12:35 Calinou no 12:35 Calinou it's an external site, but it is considered as the official wiki 12:42 alvin_rxg Calinou: with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 works. but could it be installed into /usr/local/ ? 12:42 Calinou -_- never do this 12:42 Calinou either disable it and MT personal data will be in ~/.minetest 12:42 Calinou or enable it and MT personal data will be in the folder where you put your stuff 12:43 Calinou /usr/local/ fanboyism is a bad habit 12:43 alvin_rxg o_O 12:43 alvin_rxg fine. copy to a safe place, and play. let me enjoy it anyway 12:47 Staffijs oh i see i went to the 30912 and it just doesnt generate further like a force field 12:48 Japa_werk_ Calinou, what about D:/Games? 12:48 Japa_werk_ ... 12:48 Japa_werk_ that was supposed to be a drive path, not an ohgod face 14:14 Calinou https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/lua_api_fr.txt 14:14 Calinou french translation of lua_api.txt, not finished. 14:14 Calinou permanent link; updates automatically uploaded 14:14 Calinou redcrab, ^ :) 14:15 Calinou hi aspiremint 14:15 aspiremint hi 14:22 Calinou MT forums back up 14:22 Calinou hi CIA-116 14:22 Calinou cisoun* 14:22 Calinou cisoun, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/lua_api_fr.txt 14:22 Calinou traduction en français de la doc (non-fini) 14:22 Calinou j'en suis à la ligne 330 14:23 Calinou un truc comme ça 14:23 cisoun je check 14:23 cisoun non d'un chien j'ai des problèmes d'encodage utf-8/iso... 14:23 cisoun je vois pas les accents /o\ 14:24 cisoun ah t'es en iso-8859-1 14:24 cisoun tu devrais passer en utf-8 14:24 aspiremint (have redcrab website?) 14:25 cisoun Calinou: après je t'aidrais bien à traduire un peu mais peut-être à la fin de la semaine si je peux parce que là je dois déjà finir de bosser sur quelques trucs 14:27 Calinou sfan5 no longer has an avatar :o 14:27 Calinou cisoun, ok 14:27 Calinou tu devrais passer en utf-8 14:27 Calinou ok ^^ 14:27 sfan5 Calinou: :D 14:27 * Calinou est sur windows 14:28 Calinou va falloir que je remette tous les accents... 14:30 cisoun ah ok j'ai rien dis alors /o\ 14:30 cisoun non non c'est bon 14:30 cisoun mais je suis étonné que chromium n'ait pas adapté le codage 14:32 Calinou je remets tous les accents quand même 14:32 Calinou moins de linuxiens qui m'enguelent \o/ 14:33 redcrab aspiremint : I do not own official website .. Currently for Minetest I use minetest.net/forum ... 14:33 cisoun Calinou: on s'en fout des linuxiens, te fais pas chier. 14:34 redcrab Comment ça en s'en fout ... nom mais oh .. puis quoi encore cent balles et un mars :D 14:34 cisoun Pourquoi pas. 8 ) 14:34 cisoun (en plus c'est moi qui dit ça, un Archlinuxien...) 14:35 redcrab Ah ok .. tu as donc unprobleme avec tes toilettes 14:35 Calinou :o t'es sur arch 14:35 Calinou je croyais que t'étais sur ubuntu 14:35 * Calinou n'aime pas arch 14:35 cisoun ça c'était y'a longtemps 14:35 Calinou je préfère debian 14:35 redcrab Arch est extra pour les admins 14:36 cisoun debian c'est bien aussi mais je suis trop bidouilleur 14:36 cisoun et le gestionnaire de paquets d'arch est tellement rapide que je peux plus m'en passer 14:36 redcrab debian est trop geek et universitaire a mon gout (pas de finiolage , ergonomie douteuse ... ) 14:37 Calinou c'est bon! 14:37 Calinou oui 14:37 Calinou euh non 14:37 Calinou je croyais que tu parlais d'arch 14:38 redcrab Ubuntu est super pour les noobs ... mais pour les admins ça manque de consoles intelligente 14:38 Calinou la doc officielle de debian fait peur je sais, on est au 21ème siècle depuis un moment 14:38 Calinou ubuntu > mint 14:38 Calinou mint = buggé 14:38 Calinou MATE = TRES buggé 14:39 redcrab fedora est pas mal pour son coté un peu plus pro mais manque de finition pour etre emplyé comme desktop de Monsieur tout le monde 14:40 redcrab Puppy , c'est le couteau suisse a avoir partout ... 14:41 marktraceur Mes amis, on a plein de gens ici qui ne parlent pas francais--est-ce que c'est possible de registrer #minetest-fr, peut-etre? 14:41 Calinou fedora, bof 14:41 Calinou marktraceur, "registrer" > "enregistrer" 14:41 Calinou "peut-etre" > "peut-être" 14:41 Calinou ^^ 14:41 redcrab ... may we carry on in english .... 14:42 marktraceur Calinou: Merci, et je n'ai aucun cle d'accent....(and my grammar is atrocious, I'm sure) 14:42 Calinou aucun > aucune 14:42 marktraceur redcrab: Aye, that works best, but I'd welcome an -fr channel 14:42 Calinou /join #minetest-fr 14:42 redcrab cle ? 14:42 Calinou (lol) 14:43 Calinou just so that other people can't register it :D 14:44 marktraceur redcrab: Key? *shrug* I never learned the words for technology, really 14:45 redcrab a key for a lock = une clé or une clef .... a key for a keyboard = une touche ... 14:45 marktraceur touche, got it 14:46 marktraceur (and as I was trying to explain there, I can't type accents, so I'd have to say "clef" :) ) 14:46 redcrab okidoki, I've understood :D 14:47 redcrab but nvm most young french speaking .. when they chat, rarely use the accents... 16:21 NakedFury hello people 16:23 marktraceur NakedFury, Hullo! 17:00 MiJyn_ yo 17:00 marktraceur MiJyn_, Suuuup 17:00 MiJyn_ sick, you? 17:00 marktraceur Not sick, at work 17:01 MiJyn_ what do you work for? 17:02 marktraceur MiJyn_, I'm contracting with the Wikimedia Foundation 17:02 MiJyn_ nice! what do you do there? 17:03 VanessaE hi all 17:03 MiJyn_ hi Vanessa 17:04 jordach MiJyn_, im up to something with an old ver of mi netest 17:04 marktraceur MiJyn_, various stuff 17:04 MiJyn_ jordach, awesome! 17:04 marktraceur Currently: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EtherEditor 17:06 MiJyn_ marktraceur, mark holmquist? 17:06 marktraceur MiJyn_, That's the one 17:06 MiJyn_ that's you? 17:06 marktraceur (confirm with /whois if you'd like) 17:07 marktraceur Yes, in short, it's me 17:07 MiJyn_ so you program extensions? 17:07 marktraceur MiJyn_, I have done. 17:07 marktraceur Also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_tools/Org_chart_tool 17:08 jordach wow my desktop now loks clean 17:09 MiJyn_ cool! 17:09 jordach almost filled it 17:09 jordach now has 5 icons 17:09 MiJyn_ huh? 17:09 MiJyn_ explorer.exe? 17:09 jordach my desktop is empty, yes presicelu 17:10 MiJyn_ wow 17:10 jordach win 7 icons are 256 8 256 17:10 jordach * 256 17:10 marktraceur *pixels*? 17:10 marktraceur That's huge! 17:11 MiJyn_ that's small! 17:25 redcrab .svg icon rocks :) 17:25 jordach :( 17:26 redcrab jordach ... you're still alive ... I thought that you've quit minetest ... 17:27 jordach yep 17:27 marktraceur 256px: http://www.xn--icne-wqa.com/images/icones/1/4/animals-gnu.png 17:27 jordach irc now 17:27 marktraceur That's huge for a desktop 17:27 redcrab less griefer on irc ...lol 17:27 marktraceur You could fit maybe 10 things on the screen 17:27 VanessaE might be okay for those of us whose eyesight stinks ;-) 17:27 jordach redcrab, ill be on mt per few days 17:29 redcrab yep ... detoxication cure ... quit slowly but surely :D 17:30 marktraceur Oh, jordach, what are you doing with the old minetest? 17:30 jordach a heavily memfixed version 17:30 marktraceur VanessaE, damn it, I forgot to go to the optometrist 17:31 marktraceur (I started that chat message with an entirely different intent, but suddenly remembered) 17:31 VanessaE heh 17:40 jordach http://pastebin.com/6tEXBjkw MY LIST 17:42 marktraceur jordach, Interesting. 17:45 MiJyn_ I wonder why everyone uses pastebin... 17:46 VanessaE because it works? :-) 17:49 MiJyn_ it's terrible 17:49 MiJyn_ there are so many others which are amazing 17:49 VanessaE it's good enough :-) 17:51 MiJyn_ even pastie.org which is less characters to type 17:52 * marktraceur has tried dpaste, it works out OK 17:52 VanessaE to type? 17:52 VanessaE who the heck types URLs anymore? 17:54 MiJyn_ /me 17:54 VanessaE um, copy&paste? or click on the link your irc client surely gives you? 17:55 MiJyn_ it doesnt :P 17:56 marktraceur What is copy paste? irssi, screen, and lynx do not offer me this feature.... 17:57 MiJyn_ yep! neither does byobu 17:58 darkrose most X terminals have a 'copy on highlight' feature by default 17:59 marktraceur When I'm using gnome-terminal, yes, I have links :P 17:59 MiJyn_ yeah, but we hardcore geeks do not use X :P 17:59 darkrose MiJyn_: there's also mouse drivers for the console that do the same thing 17:59 * marktraceur goes back to creating huge red blocks of error messages 17:59 MiJyn_ darkrose, yeah, GPM 18:00 MiJyn_ exactly marktraceur! 18:01 marktraceur My screen makes me sad sometimes: http://i.imgur.com/xqW8D.png 18:01 Calinou yeah, but we hardcore geeks do not use X :P 18:01 Calinou lol 18:02 d0c01 hello! 18:02 Calinou .svg icon rocks :) 18:02 Calinou YAY SLOWNESS 18:02 Calinou hi d0c01 18:02 MiJyn_ calinou, I use ASCII Minetest :P 18:05 marktraceur MiJyn_, Or maybe you're just using Wayland? :P 18:07 jordach ZING! 18:07 MiJyn_ marktraceur, I wonder if Ubuntu is gonna switch to that 18:10 d0c01 sorry for bad english, i'm here to ask a little thing, i'm trying to understand how mobs will be in lua. It will be like an "animals" mod or something more "built in"? if i want to create a mob of mine, i must use the item_entity.lua? (i have already seen the animals mod but i can't understand it all) 18:13 MiJyn_ d0c01, we do not know yet as C55 hasn't told us 18:14 jordach C55 = lazy bastard 18:14 jordach my 0.2 make will be updated every now and then 18:14 jordach since its lightning 18:14 marktraceur Haha, jordach has high hopes for this fork :) 18:15 jordach (also, endless maps 18:16 Calinou wayland? 18:16 Calinou sorry for bad english, i'm here to ask a little thing, i'm trying to understand how mobs will be in lua. It will be like an "animals" mod or something more "built in"? if i want to create a mob of mine, i must use the item_entity.lua? (i have already seen the animals mod but i can't understand it all) 18:16 Calinou animals mod can go fuck itself 18:17 jordach ^ YEP 18:17 Calinou people need to quit being lazy and instead, put all the AI stuff in C++, only keep a moderate part of stuff in lua. health, speed, textures, etc. 18:17 Calinou AND PLEASE, NO "SPRITES". I WANT FLAT PLANES. 18:17 Calinou (or ideally, extruded planes) 18:19 d0c01 flat planes == a single image not animated? 18:20 Bad_Command Get busy with that AI in C++ calinou 18:21 d0c01 what is much active in developing, the fork or minetestc55? 18:21 d0c01 (forks?) 18:22 cy1 Calinou: arguably accessing health, speed, textures etc from Lua, from C++ isn't much faster than just doing the logic in Lua. But it's true prudent code design is crucial for function. 18:22 cy1 and sprites are flat planes :< 18:22 Calinou Bad_Command, ik 18:22 cy1 I mean 18:22 Calinou go find capable coders :< 18:22 Calinou yeah but they turn to you, "billboard" 18:22 cy1 different on the front and back but 18:22 Calinou hate this 18:22 marktraceur d0c01, Too early to tell. Since jordach is currently in the chat, and c55 has dropped from the face of the earth, the evidence is good that the fork will be active. 18:23 marktraceur However, not currently clear how good it will be. 18:23 cy1 oh, so they act like drops 18:23 marktraceur jordach, no offense, I don't have any evidence yet. 18:23 Calinou jordach's forks: "collect items when stepped on" "make items decay" "make items drop when mined" "tweak animations" 18:23 Calinou inb4 these 4 commits 18:23 Calinou aka annoying stuff from MC 18:23 cy1 jeez give c55 a break already he was just committing like what a month ago 18:24 cy1 Calinou: to be fair, items not decaying is one of the big problems in minetest where sapling drops slowly cover the map and lag clients. 18:25 cy1 but better IMO to fix leafdecay not to drop saplings than decay items 18:25 Calinou items decaying are fine 18:25 Calinou "lag the clients" 18:25 Calinou -_- 18:25 Calinou only a few tris 18:25 jordach marktraceur, read this again http://pastebin.com/6tEXBjkw 18:25 * Calinou hates item decay I mean 18:25 Calinou remove decorative uses of some decorative items 18:25 jordach im only adding very little to the OLD SOURCE 18:25 jordach and basic block api 18:26 d0c01 i think an easy solution could be the /pulverize made more "fast" like a shortcut from keyboard 18:26 jordach NO TOOLS 18:26 cy1 tbf the only item drops I ever saw noticable lag was like dropping over 9000 in a small area 18:26 Calinou d0c01, pulverize key, nah 18:26 Calinou you could use console and "up arrow" to "re-type" the command quickly 18:26 cy1 d0c01: I think the entire inventory should be pulverizable 8| 18:27 Calinou lol 18:27 * Calinou would like to see chat macros 18:27 d0c01 who does not want a "pulverize key", all the destructive power in a key!XD 18:27 cy1 sneak needs to be a toggle 18:27 Calinou toggle sneak, yeah, as an option 18:27 jordach hmm 18:27 Calinou checkbox in "change keys" 18:27 Calinou ;) 18:27 cy1 you're holding shift and you go to your inventory, dead 18:27 jordach cy1, skyblock is BAD FOR THAT 18:28 Calinou default inv key needs to be E not I 18:28 Calinou much more efficient 18:28 Calinou although minecrafty 18:28 cy1 jordach: what's skyblock? 18:28 Calinou and drop key, G 18:28 Calinou Q fucks up with azerty 18:28 jordach survive on a tiny little island 18:28 Calinou it's getting extremely annoying with newcomers 18:28 cy1 Calinou: e and i are both on the same finger, different hands, in qwerty 18:28 cy1 me I just set my own keycodes 18:29 cy1 oh also 18:29 cy1 also 18:29 cy1 minetest needs public key authentication :T 18:29 Calinou code it 18:29 cy1 right then 18:29 * cy1 disappears for 3 months 18:30 * jordach uses a time machine to bring cy1 back to the present 18:30 marktraceur jordach, I'm not sure abandoning 0.3 and 0.4 changes is necessary to make minetest better, but I'm willing to be shown that it will work 18:31 jordach seen how sloppy the commits came? 18:31 marktraceur jordach, since 0.2 was under GPL, I assume you'll be using that license? 18:31 cy1 jordach: couldn't you just use a time machine to get the code from the future so we don't have to write it? :( 18:31 jordach cy1: no 18:31 cy1 it worked in terminator 18:31 jordach i wanna work for it, not BE SPOON FED 18:31 jordach marktraceur, minetest became LGPL 18:32 jordach so it SHOULD include 0.2 18:32 jordach 0.2 runs like a dream 18:32 marktraceur jordach, But not the 0.2 code, not necessarily anyway....I suppose you could make the argument that it applies retroactively, but it would be an interesting case 18:32 jordach marktraceur, well see sometime when it starts getting some work 18:33 Calinou why in earth does he want to fork 0.2? 18:33 jordach Calinou, 0.3 can even lag for me - and i hate the leaf decay 18:34 jordach (my pc can give MC 40fps) 18:34 Calinou "Dynamic Day / night (Sorry - lags badly)" 18:34 Calinou jordach is an idiot. 18:34 Calinou the old cycle was SLOWER 18:34 jordach Calinou, not for me 18:34 Calinou also, all he wants to add is shitty blockplanet-y stuff 18:34 jordach im thinking of POS machines 18:34 marktraceur Children, play nice 18:35 jordach Calinou, not really, just the things like settable seeds, new ores, mese tools 18:35 jordach mobs - everyone wants them 18:36 jordach memory leaks esp. 18:36 Calinou no. 18:36 jordach Calinou, mobs MIGHT get omitted 18:38 jordach minetest used to be about developing something nice 18:39 jordach (for the end user that is, i also plan on making maps one big zip archive) 18:39 d0c01 it's just me or with animals mod it goes much slower?(i have not much fast hardware, is the main reason why i am searching to enable some built in mobs to play all alone, sadly also the connection sucks :) ) 18:39 jordach yep 18:40 jordach thats what i like about my ork design 18:40 jordach simplicity 18:40 darkrose o.2 was released under the GPL, you can't just change the license without the copyright holders' permission 18:40 jordach ooh 18:40 jordach then it'll stay 18:40 jordach as GPL 18:40 marktraceur darkrose, good call 18:41 darkrose :) 18:41 marktraceur Oh, if anyone's trying to connect to my server, it's decidedly down. Sorry about that. 18:41 jordach marktraceur, 0.3 had FOUR folders, not 100 18:41 darkrose your whole domain is timing out 18:42 marktraceur darkrose, Yeah, either my network is down or the server's network config got trashed again 18:42 darkrose :/ 18:43 marktraceur I was persuaded into configuring a static IP on the LAN 18:43 marktraceur That didn't work out so hot 18:43 marktraceur I think at the very least, I need to work out a way to auto-fix it 18:43 marktraceur (cron job to restart networking or something) 18:44 darkrose heh, my whole network is publicly addressed, due to laziness setting it up 18:45 d0c01 where can i find an old scriptapi.cpp? i want to re-add rats to my personal bin :) 18:48 d0c01 (older sourcecode would be better) 19:12 MiJyn_ go to github repo and click on commits 19:13 MiJyn_ click on NEXT a LOT 19:14 d0c01 thanks! 19:14 Calinou hi 19:14 d0c01 hello! 19:15 marktraceur Lol 19:15 marktraceur "click on NEXT a LOT" 19:15 Calinou marktraceur, do you hate installers too? :P 19:15 marktraceur d0c01, git bisect would probably get you there a lot faster :P 19:15 * Calinou segfaulted. 19:15 marktraceur Calinou, if I can do it in a much cooler way, absolutely :P 19:23 d0c01 wow, making blocks falling seems easy in init.lua stuff 19:24 Calinou yeah 19:24 Calinou we need plantlike entities :( 19:24 Calinou so that we can have falling apples 19:24 * Calinou also wants iron apples back. :( 19:25 d0c01 making apples falling or you mean something else? (i'm not much good in english) 19:26 d0c01 i also want falling apples, Newton rulez!\m/ 19:26 d0c01 but i'm not finding apples in init.lua in default/ 19:27 d0c01 let's grep!:P 19:28 d0c01 oh lol, here it is 19:29 Calinou apples do not generate naturally anymore; probably a bug 19:29 Calinou only from sapling-grown trees 19:30 * Calinou also wants more food 19:30 Calinou like, small strawberry plants, like on gameboom 19:30 Calinou but smaller 19:30 marktraceur I think that's in nature, FYI 19:30 d0c01 Calinou, maybe is not apple's season!XD 19:31 marktraceur I would argue that it is, but since minetest has no concept of seasons....whaddyagonnado? 19:32 d0c01 i'm going to read this: src/mapgen.cpp: MapNode applenode(ndef->getId("mapgen_apple")); 19:32 d0c01 maybe somewhere in there.. 19:34 d0c01 it's me or also jungle trees are vanished? 19:34 d0c01 i never seen jungle* 19:36 marktraceur d0c01, IIRC, jungle still generates, but much more rarely 19:38 d0c01 i have tryed to go to the end of the world some night ago searching for jungle grass, but never seen it! maybe is just a distraction of mine :) 19:39 marktraceur d0c01, Did you download the minetest_game? 19:39 d0c01 mapgen.lua is used anytime or just on creating a new world? 19:39 d0c01 marktraceur, yes! 19:39 marktraceur d0c01, All block generation, I believe 19:40 Calinou no jungles at all 19:40 Calinou in new map gen 19:40 Calinou only "normal" & desert 19:40 Calinou "jungles were boring" ~c55 19:40 Calinou adds boring deserts 19:40 Calinou MEME 19:42 d0c01 c55 loves sand castles and hates monkeys?XD 19:43 d0c01 mapgen.lua has only a register_alias about trees 19:43 VanessaE c55 loves "interesting" and hates "boring" or "random", but his definitions of each are....questionable :-) 19:45 d0c01 apple generation i think should be in C++ code, not lua 19:46 Calinou it is in C++ 19:46 Calinou not lua 19:47 d0c01 thanks! 19:47 d0c01 you saved me the reading of 1894 lines 19:47 d0c01 XD 19:47 Calinou lol 19:54 marktraceur Ah, passing tests, 100% code coverage 19:54 marktraceur It will never look this beautiful again 19:54 marktraceur / @codeCoverageIgnoreStart 19:54 marktraceur Augh 19:54 marktraceur http://i.imgur.com/QQ5Cd.png 20:01 MiJyn_ naice job! 20:04 Calinou minor mod updates; git repo updated 20:04 Calinou huh, 20:04 marktraceur MiJyn_, That window is now my desktop background 20:04 Calinou what's that, marktraceur? o,o 20:04 marktraceur I'm seriously considering getting a framed copy 20:04 marktraceur Calinou, Test results for my MW extension 20:05 Calinou k 20:05 * marktraceur searches for framing services in the area 20:09 marktraceur Hm, asspensive. 20:10 * marktraceur searches for small lumber and clear plastic sheeting in the area 20:12 jordach marktraceur, modern warfare extension? 20:12 marktraceur jordach, ew! No, MediaWiki 20:14 jordach lol 20:52 d0c01 an appleeeee!:O 21:15 marktraceur Thanks to an amazing roommate, my server returns to service 21:15 jordach|tablet lol 21:16 jordach|tablet that was fast 21:17 marktraceur jordach|tablet: What was? 21:17 jordach|tablet log off and in 21:18 marktraceur Oh, yeah 21:18 marktraceur I did both sort of simultaneously in a way 21:20 MiJyn_ Calinou, I read what you said on MC not using 256MB... and... idgaf 21:20 MiJyn_ it's wrong 21:20 MiJyn_ mc has no memory leaks, since it uses Java 21:22 d0c01 any italian in there? i'm watching at minetest.po, if needed i can add some more translations 21:23 MiJyn_ do translations even work? 21:23 d0c01 i don't know, now i make -j and i'll tell you! 21:25 MiJyn_ ok! 21:26 d0c01 being honest i don't know how useful could be a translation i minetest for now..but let's do it!:D 21:26 d0c01 *in 21:26 MiJyn_ I don't think it would work, as I don't think Minetest uses gettext anymore 21:27 d0c01 a cmake flag about gettext is still in there, by default is 0 21:28 MiJyn_ yeah... looking at the source code, I don't see anything that still uses it 21:29 d0c01 you are right, no translations. 21:30 d0c01 i think is not a problem for now, is much "just dig and shut up" :D 23:18 NakedFury hi peoples 23:19 marktraceur Hi, objects 23:20 NakedFury what are you up to lord marktraceur? 23:21 marktraceur Well, sirrah, since ye asked, the lot of us are travelling to the faire to see a visual feast! Strange beasts from strange and faraway lands, performing various stunts for their pay! 23:23 NakedFury well enjoy it. I will enjoy my pizza 23:25 marktraceur Well, that was underwhelming 23:26 NakedFury the festival of stunt animals? 23:27 marktraceur No, your reaction to it 23:46 marktraceur Does anyone have a link to the stress test results from minetest.ru? 23:51 NakedFury not me, havent been here most of the day 23:52 marktraceur Oh, I found it 23:52 marktraceur http://minetest.ru/plot_final.png 23:52 marktraceur It was some time ago, actually