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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2020-04-10

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13:03 rubenwardy https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/free-and-open-source-voxel-game-engine-minetest-has-a-new-release-up.16388
13:11 nerzhul i'm late but we just released 5.2.0 ?
13:12 nerzhul i saw that we now have a split between old client and the new client
13:12 rubenwardy do we?
13:12 nerzhul seems that master is on 5.3 branch i think so :D
13:13 rubenwardy 5.3.0-dev?
13:13 nerzhul great job for the content database :)
13:13 nerzhul yep
13:13 rubenwardy that's correct, master is the development version
13:13 nerzhul don't you forget me ruben ? :)
13:14 nerzhul nice changelog
13:14 rubenwardy I don't understnad what problem you're trying to point out
13:14 nerzhul just a question, i saw that we have nice doc on minetest.github.io
13:14 rubenwardy but it's nice to see you arround again
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13:14 nerzhul is dev.minetest.net maintained or is this just like 1 year ago before my afk
13:15 nerzhul is dev.minetest.net un maintained or is this just like 1 year ago before my afk
13:15 rubenwardy the wiki is still unmaintained, yes
13:17 nerzhul the new official source is minetest.github.io then ?
13:17 rubenwardy they're different
13:17 rubenwardy minetest.gitlab.io is lua_api.txt but rendered into HTML
13:17 rubenwardy the dev wiki was never official
13:17 nerzhul maybe we should try to do something around it ?
13:18 nerzhul it's a little bit slow these days , and it seems we may have duplicated data
13:18 nerzhul and what about https://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page ? is this maintained or in the same state ? this one may be replaced by the minetest.gitlab.io no ?
13:18 rubenwardy the wiki mainpage is for players, not for modders
13:19 nerzhul okay fine
13:19 rubenwardy the modding information on the dev should probably go
13:19 nerzhul okay, i know i just returned but wanted to be sure i'm up to date :D
13:20 nerzhul i will try to take time on the optimisation part i think, like before, because i will try to re-open a server but on my rock64 kubernetes cluster, then it will be slower than my prvious dedicated one :D
13:21 rubenwardy yay
13:22 nerzhul what about the current minetest performance ? when i left on 5.0.0 it was quite fine (if we discard the heavy mods themselves), are there any performance changes since then or the architecture is similar ? I saw we never continued the project to reorgarnized the source tree
13:23 rubenwardy there have been a few optimisation projects. For example, caching abm nodes and some networking optimisations
13:23 rubenwardy but I'm not sure
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13:26 nerzhul okay
13:27 rubenwardy I haven't had much time for Minetest in the last few months, but I will no
13:27 rubenwardy alongside learning kubernetes
13:28 nerzhul haha, i'm working for Veepee now and i manage the Kubernetes from scratch infrasture i designed with few other SRE and our Platform team :)
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13:48 kilbith celeron55, will the forum VPS be fixed eventually?
13:50 celeron55 yeah, the main problem with it is that this breakage coincided with a very slow process of migrating it elsewhere
13:50 celeron55 so it's now caught into the very slow process
13:50 nerzhul yeah the wiki are slowed down too :(
13:52 celeron55 well let's do a quick test
13:53 celeron55 i'll shut down the forum and we'll see if everything else works fine then
13:53 celeron55 done
13:55 celeron55 i think the wikis work normally with the forum shut down
13:58 celeron55 now it's "up" again
13:59 kilbith still unresponsive
14:00 celeron55 well obviously; restarting it or the entire VPS does nothing
14:00 celeron55 there are no easy solutions to this
14:00 celeron55 aside from moving it to a more powerful server
14:02 celeron55 i'm very particular in how it's run security wise so that's not easy either
14:02 kilbith well I guess this is a collateral victim of corona
14:03 celeron55 i don't really know... my statistics show no obvious increase in traffic
14:03 celeron55 who knows, maybe someone started mining bitcoins using injected php code
14:03 celeron55 8)
14:04 celeron55 not likely though
14:04 celeron55 i think the VPS provider is just bullshitting me in saying they have no performance issues
14:04 celeron55 this looks exactly as if their performance just degraded a lot
14:05 celeron55 i don't have a way to compare because i have no reference measurements
14:05 kilbith http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2020-04-10#i_5665001
14:05 celeron55 that's for www.minetest.net
14:06 celeron55 nowadays it's a cname to github pages
14:06 celeron55 so, not a cause
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14:08 celeron55 the current problem occurred very briefly on 2020-03-24 and then started again permanently on 2020-04-03
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18:39 rubenwardy Made an RTS mod:   https://youtu.be/jB_sFZGRUgw   //   https://content.minetest.net/packages/rubenwardy/conquer/   //   vps.rubenwardy.com 30001
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18:42 nerzhul rubenwardy: lol nice one
18:43 rubenwardy (it's for the combat mod jam ran by the discord)
18:49 nerzhul it's a very nice thing :D
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19:01 Sokomine rubenwardy: cute little archers! but i wish they'd be allowed to live a more happy life - not having to slaughter each other!
19:01 rubenwardy :D
19:01 * Sokomine secretly builds some tiny homes for rubenwardys soldiers where they can hide and live
19:02 Sokomine very nice idea to make them smaller than players
19:02 rubenwardy the maths to aim the archers is painful, given the parabolic curve. After a few pages of derivations, I eventually found a random wikipedia page
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