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ANAND |
MT is featured in Ubuntu's Software Center: https://imgur.com/a/KDcLyTI :) |
| 01:54 |
ANAND |
https://vscodium.com/ This is interesting... |
| 01:56 |
GreenXenith |
VSCode is great |
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ANAND |
Indeed |
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aerozoic |
is the forum down? |
| 13:22 |
twoelk |
it is very slow and buggy and yes problem is known and being worked on |
| 13:23 |
twoelk |
but as it seems no fast and easy solution in sight |
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aerozoic |
ok thx for info twoelk |
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aerozoic |
there's a minetest discord? |
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rubenwardy |
aerozoic: there's an unofficial one with 800 users |
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aerozoic |
found it just now :) |
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Sokomine |
i'm wondering how much a newer computer would help regarding mt...single-thread performance is most certainly the most relevant, and even newer, faster machines don't get more than factor 2 relative to my celeron g16010 i think...the integrated graphics cards of cpus probably got improved more than that |
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Krock |
spring cleaning. yes indeed |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: IGPs have evolved faster than singlethread CPU performance, by far |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
on average, each new Intel CPU generation brings +10% singlethreaded CPU performance (sometimes less), whereas the IGP gets +20% (sometimes up to +25%) |
| 19:13 |
Calinou |
some laptops also have faster-than-usual IGPs too since the latest generation (Intel Ice Lake, or Ryzen Mobile APUs) |
| 19:13 |
Calinou |
these can be competitive with low-end dedicated mobile GPUs |
| 19:53 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: sounds tempting. mine's still an old ivy bridge with some unspecified "hd graphics". quite old by now. runs mt well, but...there might be room for improvement with better ressources i guess |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
in Sandy/Ivy Bridge, unspecified HD Graphics is the slowest of them all |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
you then have HD Graphics 2500, and HD Graphics 4000 (fastest on Ivy Bridge) |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
their Sandy Bridge counterparts are HD Graphics 2000 and HD Graphics 3000 |
| 19:54 |
Sokomine |
yes. on the one hand it's great that mt runs quite well already with that. but somehow it would be nicer to have it all a bit faster |
| 19:54 |
Calinou |
it's quite confusing at first… |
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* twoelk |
is quite nostalgic about his collection of ancient laptops he just couldn't bear to get rid off when they got outdated beyond usefullness |
| 19:58 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: oh yes, i know that. even regarding desktops. as far as laptops go: there's just no way to get an equally good keyboard as that from very old thinkpads |
| 19:59 |
twoelk |
yep, all ibm thinkpads |
| 20:00 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: a german computer technology related newspaper yearly makes some suggestions about how to build your new pc. this year, they sadly had better machines that consumed around 30w - that's far too much for 24/7 running. a small athlon 200ge sounds tempting - 7w, quiet even under load, even cheap - but i'm not sure how that igp will fare under linux and mt |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
7W at idle? that sounds exceedingly low for a desktop PC |
| 20:01 |
twoelk |
still got my first 386SX as well - not functional though as I lack a working monitor that can connect |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
I wouldn't trust that value to be fair |
| 20:01 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: not all. the newer ones got less and less good keyboards. the really old ones are excellent. today ones are..i think the english term is "crap" |
| 20:02 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: its perforamnce is rather low compared to the other machines. uses a very small case with external power supply |
| 20:04 |
twoelk |
my mother ditched her old freezer of 30 years for a modern one a few months ago - we can actually see the difference in the electricity bill |
| 20:04 |
twoelk |
my room was quite warm when I had my old pc running |
| 20:04 |
Sokomine |
Calinou: an intel nuc8i5bek also sounds tempting: even less power needed, small (nice but not required), some vega-cpu (no idea how good that's under linux and mt), very small. drawbacks are that it can get noisy (don't want that) and the price seems to go up and up |
| 20:05 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: if it was 30 years old that seems likely, yes. and the freezer is running most of the time as well |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
I can't hear my PC at idle but when the GPU is loaded, it gets quite noisy |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
(CPU load only is fine though) |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
that's a GTX 1080 for me :( |
| 20:08 |
twoelk |
one of the drawbacks of a ssd is I can't hear anymore what the hard disk is doing |
| 20:10 |
Sokomine |
a gtx 1080 sounds too much like a graphics card :-) 24/7 running + low idle requirement + only mt call for an igp of some sort |
| 20:10 |
Sokomine |
definitely, twoelk. but it also speeds up start of mt considerably. on all else it has little effect; but game start is considerably faster |
| 20:12 |
twoelk |
well it seems writing "save to local DB" is also a tiny bit faster |
| 20:13 |
Sokomine |
ah yes, of course. that also profits extremly from an ssd, yes |
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Sokomine |
mod security is terribly annoying |
| 22:45 |
sfan5 |
in which regard? |
| 22:47 |
Sokomine |
can't read files i created myself in my mod |
| 22:47 |
Sokomine |
want to restore metadata |
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Sokomine |
ah. need to extend my exceptions...perhaps it'll work then... |
| 23:05 |
rubenwardy |
you really should use mod storage, Sokomine |
| 23:05 |
rubenwardy |
settings are good for most configuration, you would need to do that during load time |
| 23:15 |
Sokomine |
right now i'm trying to resture metadata for saved buildings. mod storage wouldn't help me there. it might be useful in a lot of other scenarios though |
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