| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
tumeninodes |
pushing 5.0.0 to release, just for the sake of it..., would be a big mistake |
| 00:01 |
Peppy |
it would also be a relief for server owners not to have to answer questions from players about non supported apps |
| 00:01 |
Peppy |
so please, don't rush :) |
| 00:01 |
Jordach |
like you know, a set of api calls to control the sun, moon and stars ;) |
| 00:02 |
tumeninodes |
such a tease |
| 00:03 |
tumeninodes |
I want to be able to animate solar flares on the Sun..., :P and cycles for both... (me the over the last year) |
| 00:04 |
tumeninodes |
and shooting stars |
| 00:06 |
tumeninodes |
and mtmeta accessible via the TP folder |
| 00:06 |
tumeninodes |
and.... |
| 00:07 |
Peppy |
hammocks ? |
| 00:08 |
tumeninodes |
I've mentioned those before yes... but I have an excuse... I'm psychotic |
| 00:10 |
tumeninodes |
disclaimer: no banana hammocks |
| 00:21 |
shivajiva |
there is a time in a developing mind where voxel games are perfect, they give transferable assets so MT will keep a user base, it might not be the original target audience but it will hold up for some time imo |
| 00:27 |
shivajiva |
(not in response to tumeninodes...but the more I look xD) |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
shivajiva, here's what 15k stars look like with my almost complete set_sun/moon/stars APIs |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/SRpvj8f.png |
| 00:31 |
Jordach |
i have a few things to tidy up, like the ruddy sunrise texture |
| 00:34 |
tumeninodes |
how freakin gorgeous is that?! That is one sexy sky |
| 00:34 |
Jordach |
plot twist, that's a textured skybox with the dynamic components |
| 00:35 |
tumeninodes |
excellent |
| 00:35 |
Jordach |
you heard me, 15k stars :D |
| 00:36 |
Jordach |
and still hitting a wonderful 60fps at 1080p+ |
| 00:36 |
tumeninodes |
now just add a 2d sky box with transparency to rotate just inside of that ;) |
| 00:36 |
tumeninodes |
nice |
| 00:36 |
Jordach |
i'd have to fix the regular skybox for that tho |
| 00:36 |
tumeninodes |
... and the problem is??? xD |
| 00:36 |
tumeninodes |
j/k |
| 00:37 |
Jordach |
i've also enabled custom scaling of sun, moon and stars |
| 00:37 |
tumeninodes |
I know you an do it |
| 00:37 |
tumeninodes |
*c |
| 00:38 |
Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/Jordach/8c2a18497eb73bf4324d546d479b0069 |
| 00:41 |
shivajiva |
from a distance a tree looks like a tree even though it's made from blocks yet the mt sun and moon are square :') |
| 00:41 |
Jordach |
i forget i enabled flickering stars |
| 00:41 |
shivajiva |
nice though Jordach ;) |
| 00:42 |
tumeninodes |
Jordach, this new sky is better than getting a bunch of new shaders |
| 00:43 |
tumeninodes |
this addition will be one which is very noticeable and commented on once it merges |
| 00:44 |
paramat |
just make sure to put the horizon in the correct place ;) |
| 00:44 |
Jordach |
paramat, doesn't touch it |
| 00:44 |
Jordach |
i did include custom dynamic sky colours on purpose |
| 00:44 |
tumeninodes |
hahaha |
| 00:45 |
Jordach |
everything is stable, and i've wrote three new packet handlers and three new packets from 0x5a-5c |
| 00:45 |
Jordach |
and it's still compatible with the older set _sky, minus fancies |
| 00:45 |
Jordach |
i'd love to re-write sky to behave like nodes |
| 00:46 |
tumeninodes |
yes... would be nice to be able to set the sky colour. For instance, if using my ambiguity TP... so awesome if I could throw a quick script.txt in there to set the sky to B&W |
| 00:46 |
Jordach |
but that's something far off from now |
| 00:46 |
Jordach |
it's Lua API, so mods required |
| 00:46 |
tumeninodes |
we need to be able to call .lua scripts from within a TP dammit |
| 00:47 |
tumeninodes |
or at least the needed data |
| 00:48 |
* Jordach |
coughs |
| 00:48 |
Jordach |
inb4 CSM |
| 00:48 |
tumeninodes |
, to be able to *set animations, *use modifiers, *set sky colours, etc... without requiring a mod |
| 00:48 |
tumeninodes |
nuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 00:49 |
tumeninodes |
all right from within the TP folder |
| 00:49 |
tumeninodes |
... r e v o l u t i o n a r y ... |
| 01:01 |
rud0lf |
toilet paper? |
| 01:01 |
rud0lf |
why would you fold it? |
| 01:01 |
Jordach |
extra ply my dude |
| 01:33 |
rubenwardy |
the fuck |
| 01:33 |
rubenwardy |
is there really a block called chernobylite in technic? |
| 01:33 |
rubenwardy |
kinda bad taste |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
oh crap |
| 01:49 |
rubenwardy |
I can't register a cooking recipe for sand :( |
| 01:50 |
rubenwardy |
any simple alloy furnace? :( |
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rubenwardy |
got oil, plastics, and computer chips! https://i.rubenwardy.com/sNUFN.png |
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sofar |
rubenwardy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobylite it's an actual, existing, mineral |
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(neo/libre/open/ s/mine/ )minetest[plusplus/_redo/2/X] |
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Krock |
hi tenplus1 who's hiding again |
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| 19:21 |
Jordach |
ok wtf |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
sold because of gimmicks |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
they have really unconvenient shapes too |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
pffft |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
AL lib: (EE) ALCpulsePlayback_streamStateCallback: Received stream failure! |
| 19:22 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: what library now? |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
no clue |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
there we sodding go, removed that annoying click to copy |
| 19:26 |
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| 20:12 |
rubenwardy |
latest pet peeve: CLion doesn't highlight `override` the same as `const` or `virtual` |
| 20:26 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer: #7962 |
| 20:26 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7962 -- Content store: Fix missing screenshot in package view dialog by random-geek |
| 20:26 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: will try in a sec |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
no packages could be retrieved, shit |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
close and reopen |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
restart helped |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
full game restart |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
there's a PR open to fix that, but no reviews yet :) |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
close and open did not help |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
I meant close and reopen Minetest |
| 20:29 |
Fixer |
yay, screenshots are working |
| 20:30 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: is there package description somewhere? "view" is waaay too empty https://i.imgur.com/nhUEV8Z.png |
| 20:30 |
rubenwardy |
that's also fixed by a PR |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: one that is not reviewed yet? |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: i want tags/categories in this too |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
so you can browse/find easier |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
:( |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: 74 fucking pages... |
| 20:31 |
rubenwardy |
I'll be working on making it work properly first |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
and reliably |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
and increasing items per page |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
and adding dep support |
| 20:33 |
Fixer |
one more issue closed, nice |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
left texture is so bad... https://content.minetest.net/uploads/8453xqGIEG.png |
| 20:34 |
Fixer |
^ VanessaE |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
the DE is the bad part, texture is fine :^) |
| 20:35 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
pull requests welcome if you hate the texture :P |
| 20:37 |
VanessaE |
But if you hate my DE theme, fuck off :) |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is offset on different sides, is it possible to allign it? |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: KDE 3.5? |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
sure... If someone makes a better texture :) |
| 20:38 |
rubenwardy |
needs a crop |
| 20:38 |
rubenwardy |
:) |
| 20:38 |
VanessaE |
It's themed like KDE 3.5 but it's actually XFCE |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
lool |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
xfce is everywhere |
| 20:39 |
VanessaE |
XFCE or gtfo :) |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
i always liked xfce |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
i prefer KDE 5 |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
or openbox |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
i'm liking plasma as of recent |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
it looks like a current OS, but with classic win95 design choices |
| 20:40 |
Fixer |
the way they raped Gnome3, ..., also it is written in js? wtf....ck |
| 20:41 |
Fixer |
i still see complaints on linux forums about laggy animation in gnome, damn, it is 2018.... 2 0 1 8 |
| 20:42 |
VanessaE |
gnome can fuck off and die |
| 20:42 |
Fixer |
they also taken gtk3 hostage |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
gimped toolkit :^) |
| 20:42 |
Fixer |
with their "no systray" bullshit, but some programmers want systray... |
| 20:42 |
VanessaE |
gtk3 can die too afaic |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
QT is the future tho |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
eh |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
gtk3 makes me cringe, sorry |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
but |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
developing for QT doesn't make me want to cleave my arms off and drink a CIA chemical cocktail afterwards |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
since Win8/10 debucle/disaster, I'm now accept there is no more unified UI for anything... |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
every bitch wants custom UI, and also redesign it every year, fuck you |
| 20:44 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
just lay off those hip-c----suckers and employ QA people back |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
GTK isn't bad |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
thats because we should never have let EMCAscript get where it is |
| 20:44 |
Fixer |
i'm so pissed |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
we should've kept it to text manipulation only |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
I'm using it with GTKmm for coursework |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
it's also not the best |
| 20:45 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: gtk is fine. gtk*3* is shit |
| 20:45 |
Fixer |
at first it was cringy in linux, about plethora of different UIs everywhere, motif, gtk/2/3, qt1/2/3/4/5, theming problems, now windows has this shit too |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
I also tried Qt, it did feel better |
| 20:46 |
rubenwardy |
from a user perspective or a developer prospective, VanessaE? |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
As a user. |
| 20:47 |
Fixer |
GTK is also weird as fuck on windows |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
remember, using web technologies for programs kills braincells |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/926458505355235328?lang=en |
| 20:47 |
Fixer |
Jordach: written by brain-dead |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
Every time someone ports their program to gtk3 it tuns to shit |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
turns* |
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| 20:47 |
Fixer |
web-tech is written by brain-dead |
| 20:48 |
Fixer |
for example, look at gtk2 cherrytree program in windows, first it still uses unix structure, ok, no problem |
| 20:48 |
Fixer |
but |
| 20:48 |
Fixer |
look into bin |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
33 exe files... |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
dbus... |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
gtk-demo |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
what? |
| 20:49 |
Fixer |
so program that you can probably fit in 10 mb takes 100mb |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/ |
| 20:50 |
Fixer |
Jordach: slack is that like mIRC, but with enlarged pe... memory use? |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
suprisingly for an electron app, discord uses bugger all memory from what i've seen on win64 and linux |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
it's stayed within sub 150mb range |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
i was annoyed at skype using 100 mb of ram, i'm worried to open electron-skype... |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
(considering it does a ton of real time preloading) |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
[20:51] <Jordach> suprisingly for an electron app, discord uses bugger all memory from what i've seen on win64 and linux |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
[20:51] <Jordach> it's stayed within sub 150mb range |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
[20:51] <Fixer> i was annoyed at skype using 100 mb of ram |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
ffffffff |
| 20:51 |
Fixer |
skype is shit |
| 20:52 |
Fixer |
i know |
| 20:52 |
Fixer |
gives me cringe |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
i hate that middle mouse bullshit |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
worlds worst UX |
| 20:53 |
Fixer |
best served in 2018 |
| 20:53 |
Fixer |
when you don't remember amazing power of some decade old tools and resort to using this... shit |
| 20:55 |
Fixer |
new and fancy two buttons electron-js written something that also runs in browser but I don't want too |
| 20:55 |
Fixer |
except running that brogue-js thing, that is nice, but buggy, for everything else, don't rape me with electron please |
| 20:58 |
Fixer |
Jordach: was never a programmer, but i have bad tendency to want to type some basic code into ZX emulator, it this a cringe alert? procrastination saves me though |
| 21:00 |
Fixer |
https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1069697344780808192 |
| 21:01 |
Fixer |
loool https://twitter.com/lukejones/status/1068147951279710208 |
| 21:05 |
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Fixer |
https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1050722238922678275 |
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| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
"unfortunately minetest has stopped"... righg at startup, on a fresh install. tied 0.4.17.2 from the play store, and the *.1 apk from the website |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
try this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=21526 |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
right*, tried* |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
also, would be good to have a backtrace |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
if you're able to install adb |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
sudo apt install adb |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
adb logcat |
| 22:08 |
rubenwardy |
with device connected on USB |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
you may have to do sudo usermod -aG udev USERNAME and log out and in again before adb logcat |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
pc/internet is dead, so no apt. also, I need 0.4.17, not 5.0.0 |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
would be helpful to see if 5.0 also crashes for |
| 22:09 |
rubenwardy |
you |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
hmm wair |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
gah |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
typing on a phone sucks |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
I could try that 5.0 build later though. |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
hmm.. seems I have adb on the pc already>.. |
| 22:12 |
rubenwardy |
adb logcat | grep "net.minetest.minetest" |
| 22:12 |
rubenwardy |
may be better |
| 22:12 |
rubenwardy |
!c len("net.minetest.minetest:*") |
| 22:12 |
MinetestBot |
23 |
| 22:12 |
rubenwardy |
hmm, right at the limit |
| 22:13 |
rubenwardy |
adb has a disgusting CLI :) |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
first i have to get `adb logcat` to see the phone.... |
| 22:15 |
rubenwardy |
oh fun |
| 22:15 |
rubenwardy |
did you do the group thing? |
| 22:15 |
rubenwardy |
sudo usermod -aG udev USERNAME |
| 22:15 |
rubenwardy |
you'll need to log in and out again |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
I think you could also do sudo adb logcat if you're feeling lazy |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
but, warranty disclaimer |
| 22:16 |
rubenwardy |
IANAAP |
| 22:17 |
VanessaE |
"-waiting for device-" |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
you need to also unlock enable developer mode on the device |
| 22:17 |
VanessaE |
ah. how? |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
Settings -> About -> Tap "Build Number" 10 times until it says "Developer mode unlocked" |
| 22:17 |
rubenwardy |
then go to Settings -> Developers and enable USB Debugging |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
bingo. |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
im in |
| 22:19 |
rubenwardy |
sweet |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
ok lemme see iv i can get this to a pastebin... |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
if* |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
https://pastebin.com/mm0vVCNk |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
please tell me that worked :P |
| 22:28 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 22:29 |
rubenwardy |
can't see any open issues for that |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
G*d, how do people tolerate these damn phones for "real work" |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
bad weath3r |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
.... |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
bad weather killed internet access in my area. been down for about 28 hours now :-/ |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
anyway, rubenwardy, could I convince you to file an issue for that for me? ;) |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 22:44 |
rubenwardy |
#7963 |
| 22:44 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7963 -- Android: dlopen failed: cannot locate symbol "stderr" referenced by "libgmp.so" |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
going from 4 decent screens and mechanical keybord to this... postage stamp of a phone screen with onscreen keyboard is... aaaaaaaaahhhhhhggg |
| 22:45 |
VanessaE |
thanks :) |
| 22:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, four screeens? how about a 3x3 matrix ;) |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
im not rich :P |
| 22:53 |
Jordach |
lmao, my note 8 is fucking too big and i want a smaller phone |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
besides, 4 is my GPU's limit |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
this is just a Galaxy S4 |
| 22:55 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 22:55 |
Jordach |
my phones 6.5" display is monstrous, it dwarfs someones little nokia 3310 :) |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
i could tolerate it easier if I could just use my keyboard and one screen with this phone somehow |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
ironically my phone has the horsepower to enter a full desktop mode with full kb/m support when docked |
| 22:57 |
Jordach |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_DeX |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
"Samsung also announced "Linux on Galaxy", which allows use of a compatible Linux distribution" |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
jesus fucking christ |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 22:59 |
Jordach |
quite impressive considering it's inside a bloody phone |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 23:02 |
Jordach |
i mean full desktop linux on a phone that can make calls and return to droid is quite fancy in of itself |
| 23:09 |
Fixer |
6.5" plus 24V 20kg POWERBANK |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
Calinou: https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/ |
| 23:30 |
BillyS |
Is it possible to have an inventory with potentially infinite size? |
| 23:33 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 23:34 |
BillyS |
Interesting ... |
| 23:34 |
BillyS |
(A node inventory I'm taking about) |
