Time Nick Message 00:00 tumeninodes pushing 5.0.0 to release, just for the sake of it..., would be a big mistake 00:01 Peppy it would also be a relief for server owners not to have to answer questions from players about non supported apps 00:01 Peppy so please, don't rush :) 00:01 Jordach like you know, a set of api calls to control the sun, moon and stars ;) 00:02 tumeninodes such a tease 00:03 tumeninodes I want to be able to animate solar flares on the Sun..., :P and cycles for both... (me the over the last year) 00:04 tumeninodes and shooting stars 00:06 tumeninodes and mtmeta accessible via the TP folder 00:06 tumeninodes and.... 00:07 Peppy hammocks ? 00:08 tumeninodes I've mentioned those before yes... but I have an excuse... I'm psychotic 00:10 tumeninodes disclaimer: no banana hammocks 00:21 shivajiva there is a time in a developing mind where voxel games are perfect, they give transferable assets so MT will keep a user base, it might not be the original target audience but it will hold up for some time imo 00:27 shivajiva (not in response to tumeninodes...but the more I look xD) 00:31 Jordach shivajiva, here's what 15k stars look like with my almost complete set_sun/moon/stars APIs 00:31 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/SRpvj8f.png 00:31 Jordach i have a few things to tidy up, like the ruddy sunrise texture 00:34 tumeninodes how freakin gorgeous is that?! That is one sexy sky 00:34 Jordach plot twist, that's a textured skybox with the dynamic components 00:35 tumeninodes excellent 00:35 Jordach you heard me, 15k stars :D 00:36 Jordach and still hitting a wonderful 60fps at 1080p+ 00:36 tumeninodes now just add a 2d sky box with transparency to rotate just inside of that ;) 00:36 tumeninodes nice 00:36 Jordach i'd have to fix the regular skybox for that tho 00:36 tumeninodes ... and the problem is??? xD 00:36 tumeninodes j/k 00:37 Jordach i've also enabled custom scaling of sun, moon and stars 00:37 tumeninodes I know you an do it 00:37 tumeninodes *c 00:38 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jordach/8c2a18497eb73bf4324d546d479b0069 00:41 shivajiva from a distance a tree looks like a tree even though it's made from blocks yet the mt sun and moon are square :') 00:41 Jordach i forget i enabled flickering stars 00:41 shivajiva nice though Jordach ;) 00:42 tumeninodes Jordach, this new sky is better than getting a bunch of new shaders 00:43 tumeninodes this addition will be one which is very noticeable and commented on once it merges 00:44 paramat just make sure to put the horizon in the correct place ;) 00:44 Jordach paramat, doesn't touch it 00:44 Jordach i did include custom dynamic sky colours on purpose 00:44 tumeninodes hahaha 00:45 Jordach everything is stable, and i've wrote three new packet handlers and three new packets from 0x5a-5c 00:45 Jordach and it's still compatible with the older set _sky, minus fancies 00:45 Jordach i'd love to re-write sky to behave like nodes 00:46 tumeninodes yes... would be nice to be able to set the sky colour. For instance, if using my ambiguity TP... so awesome if I could throw a quick script.txt in there to set the sky to B&W 00:46 Jordach but that's something far off from now 00:46 Jordach it's Lua API, so mods required 00:46 tumeninodes we need to be able to call .lua scripts from within a TP dammit 00:47 tumeninodes or at least the needed data 00:48 * Jordach coughs 00:48 Jordach inb4 CSM 00:48 tumeninodes , to be able to *set animations, *use modifiers, *set sky colours, etc... without requiring a mod 00:48 tumeninodes nuuuuuuuuuuu 00:49 tumeninodes all right from within the TP folder 00:49 tumeninodes ... r e v o l u t i o n a r y ... 01:01 rud0lf toilet paper? 01:01 rud0lf why would you fold it? 01:01 Jordach extra ply my dude 01:33 rubenwardy the fuck 01:33 rubenwardy is there really a block called chernobylite in technic? 01:33 rubenwardy kinda bad taste 01:49 rubenwardy oh crap 01:49 rubenwardy I can't register a cooking recipe for sand :( 01:50 rubenwardy any simple alloy furnace? :( 03:13 rubenwardy got oil, plastics, and computer chips! https://i.rubenwardy.com/sNUFN.png 05:04 sofar rubenwardy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobylite it's an actual, existing, mineral 16:22 benrob0329 (neo/libre/open/ s/mine/ )minetest[plusplus/_redo/2/X] 17:58 Krock hi tenplus1 who's hiding again 19:21 Jordach ok wtf 19:21 Jordach sold because of gimmicks 19:21 Jordach they have really unconvenient shapes too 19:21 Jordach pffft 19:22 Jordach AL lib: (EE) ALCpulsePlayback_streamStateCallback: Received stream failure! 19:22 benrob0329 Jordach: what library now? 19:24 Jordach no clue 19:25 Jordach there we sodding go, removed that annoying click to copy 20:12 rubenwardy latest pet peeve: CLion doesn't highlight `override` the same as `const` or `virtual` 20:26 rubenwardy Fixer: #7962 20:26 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7962 -- Content store: Fix missing screenshot in package view dialog by random-geek 20:26 Fixer rubenwardy: will try in a sec 20:27 Fixer no packages could be retrieved, shit 20:29 rubenwardy close and reopen 20:29 Fixer restart helped 20:29 Fixer full game restart 20:29 rubenwardy there's a PR open to fix that, but no reviews yet :) 20:29 rubenwardy yeah 20:29 Fixer close and open did not help 20:29 rubenwardy I meant close and reopen Minetest 20:29 Fixer yay, screenshots are working 20:30 Fixer rubenwardy: is there package description somewhere? "view" is waaay too empty https://i.imgur.com/nhUEV8Z.png 20:30 rubenwardy that's also fixed by a PR 20:31 Fixer rubenwardy: one that is not reviewed yet? 20:31 rubenwardy yes 20:31 Fixer rubenwardy: i want tags/categories in this too 20:31 Fixer so you can browse/find easier 20:31 rubenwardy :( 20:31 Fixer rubenwardy: 74 fucking pages... 20:31 rubenwardy I'll be working on making it work properly first 20:32 rubenwardy and reliably 20:32 rubenwardy and increasing items per page 20:32 rubenwardy and adding dep support 20:33 Fixer one more issue closed, nice 20:34 Fixer left texture is so bad... https://content.minetest.net/uploads/8453xqGIEG.png 20:34 Fixer ^ VanessaE 20:35 Jordach the DE is the bad part, texture is fine :^) 20:35 VanessaE :P 20:36 VanessaE pull requests welcome if you hate the texture :P 20:37 VanessaE But if you hate my DE theme, fuck off :) 20:37 Fixer VanessaE: it is offset on different sides, is it possible to allign it? 20:37 Fixer VanessaE: KDE 3.5? 20:38 VanessaE sure... If someone makes a better texture :) 20:38 rubenwardy needs a crop 20:38 rubenwardy :) 20:38 VanessaE It's themed like KDE 3.5 but it's actually XFCE 20:38 Fixer lool 20:39 Fixer xfce is everywhere 20:39 VanessaE XFCE or gtfo :) 20:39 Fixer i always liked xfce 20:39 Jordach i prefer KDE 5 20:39 Fixer or openbox 20:40 Jordach i'm liking plasma as of recent 20:40 Jordach it looks like a current OS, but with classic win95 design choices 20:40 Fixer the way they raped Gnome3, ..., also it is written in js? wtf....ck 20:41 Fixer i still see complaints on linux forums about laggy animation in gnome, damn, it is 2018.... 2 0 1 8 20:42 VanessaE gnome can fuck off and die 20:42 Fixer they also taken gtk3 hostage 20:42 Jordach gimped toolkit :^) 20:42 Fixer with their "no systray" bullshit, but some programmers want systray... 20:42 VanessaE gtk3 can die too afaic 20:43 Jordach QT is the future tho 20:43 Fixer eh 20:43 Fixer gtk3 makes me cringe, sorry 20:43 Fixer but 20:43 Jordach developing for QT doesn't make me want to cleave my arms off and drink a CIA chemical cocktail afterwards 20:43 Fixer since Win8/10 debucle/disaster, I'm now accept there is no more unified UI for anything... 20:44 Fixer every bitch wants custom UI, and also redesign it every year, fuck you 20:44 VanessaE yup 20:44 Fixer just lay off those hip-c----suckers and employ QA people back 20:44 rubenwardy GTK isn't bad 20:44 Jordach thats because we should never have let EMCAscript get where it is 20:44 Fixer i'm so pissed 20:45 Jordach we should've kept it to text manipulation only 20:45 rubenwardy I'm using it with GTKmm for coursework 20:45 rubenwardy it's also not the best 20:45 VanessaE rubenwardy: gtk is fine. gtk*3* is shit 20:45 Fixer at first it was cringy in linux, about plethora of different UIs everywhere, motif, gtk/2/3, qt1/2/3/4/5, theming problems, now windows has this shit too 20:45 rubenwardy I also tried Qt, it did feel better 20:46 rubenwardy from a user perspective or a developer prospective, VanessaE? 20:46 VanessaE As a user. 20:47 Fixer GTK is also weird as fuck on windows 20:47 Jordach remember, using web technologies for programs kills braincells 20:47 Jordach https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/926458505355235328?lang=en 20:47 Fixer Jordach: written by brain-dead 20:47 VanessaE Every time someone ports their program to gtk3 it tuns to shit 20:47 VanessaE turns* 20:47 Fixer web-tech is written by brain-dead 20:48 Fixer for example, look at gtk2 cherrytree program in windows, first it still uses unix structure, ok, no problem 20:48 Fixer but 20:48 Fixer look into bin 20:49 Fixer 33 exe files... 20:49 Fixer dbus... 20:49 Fixer gtk-demo 20:49 Fixer what? 20:49 Fixer so program that you can probably fit in 10 mb takes 100mb 20:50 Fixer https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/ 20:50 Fixer Jordach: slack is that like mIRC, but with enlarged pe... memory use? 20:51 Jordach suprisingly for an electron app, discord uses bugger all memory from what i've seen on win64 and linux 20:51 Jordach it's stayed within sub 150mb range 20:51 Fixer i was annoyed at skype using 100 mb of ram, i'm worried to open electron-skype... 20:51 Jordach (considering it does a ton of real time preloading) 20:51 Jordach [20:51] suprisingly for an electron app, discord uses bugger all memory from what i've seen on win64 and linux 20:51 Jordach [20:51] it's stayed within sub 150mb range 20:51 Jordach [20:51] i was annoyed at skype using 100 mb of ram 20:51 Jordach ffffffff 20:51 Fixer skype is shit 20:52 Fixer i know 20:52 Fixer gives me cringe 20:52 Jordach i hate that middle mouse bullshit 20:52 Jordach worlds worst UX 20:53 Fixer best served in 2018 20:53 Fixer when you don't remember amazing power of some decade old tools and resort to using this... shit 20:55 Fixer new and fancy two buttons electron-js written something that also runs in browser but I don't want too 20:55 Fixer except running that brogue-js thing, that is nice, but buggy, for everything else, don't rape me with electron please 20:58 Fixer Jordach: was never a programmer, but i have bad tendency to want to type some basic code into ZX emulator, it this a cringe alert? procrastination saves me though 21:00 Fixer https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1069697344780808192 21:01 Fixer loool https://twitter.com/lukejones/status/1068147951279710208 21:09 Fixer https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1050722238922678275 22:07 VanessaE "unfortunately minetest has stopped"... righg at startup, on a fresh install. tied 0.4.17.2 from the play store, and the *.1 apk from the website 22:08 rubenwardy try this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=21526 22:08 VanessaE right*, tried* 22:08 rubenwardy also, would be good to have a backtrace 22:08 rubenwardy if you're able to install adb 22:08 rubenwardy sudo apt install adb 22:08 rubenwardy adb logcat 22:08 rubenwardy with device connected on USB 22:09 rubenwardy you may have to do sudo usermod -aG udev USERNAME and log out and in again before adb logcat 22:09 VanessaE pc/internet is dead, so no apt. also, I need 0.4.17, not 5.0.0 22:09 rubenwardy would be helpful to see if 5.0 also crashes for 22:09 rubenwardy you 22:10 VanessaE hmm wair 22:10 VanessaE gah 22:10 VanessaE typing on a phone sucks 22:11 VanessaE I could try that 5.0 build later though. 22:11 VanessaE hmm.. seems I have adb on the pc already>.. 22:12 rubenwardy adb logcat | grep "net.minetest.minetest" 22:12 rubenwardy may be better 22:12 rubenwardy !c len("net.minetest.minetest:*") 22:12 MinetestBot 23 22:12 rubenwardy hmm, right at the limit 22:13 rubenwardy adb has a disgusting CLI :) 22:15 VanessaE first i have to get `adb logcat` to see the phone.... 22:15 rubenwardy oh fun 22:15 rubenwardy did you do the group thing? 22:15 rubenwardy sudo usermod -aG udev USERNAME 22:15 rubenwardy you'll need to log in and out again 22:16 rubenwardy I think you could also do sudo adb logcat if you're feeling lazy 22:16 rubenwardy but, warranty disclaimer 22:16 rubenwardy IANAAP 22:17 VanessaE "-waiting for device-" 22:17 rubenwardy you need to also unlock enable developer mode on the device 22:17 VanessaE ah. how? 22:17 rubenwardy Settings -> About -> Tap "Build Number" 10 times until it says "Developer mode unlocked" 22:17 rubenwardy then go to Settings -> Developers and enable USB Debugging 22:19 VanessaE bingo. 22:19 VanessaE im in 22:19 rubenwardy sweet 22:22 VanessaE ok lemme see iv i can get this to a pastebin... 22:22 VanessaE if* 22:27 VanessaE https://pastebin.com/mm0vVCNk 22:28 VanessaE please tell me that worked :P 22:28 rubenwardy yes 22:29 rubenwardy can't see any open issues for that 22:31 VanessaE G*d, how do people tolerate these damn phones for "real work" 22:32 VanessaE bad weath3r 22:32 VanessaE .... 22:33 VanessaE bad weather killed internet access in my area. been down for about 28 hours now :-/ 22:42 VanessaE anyway, rubenwardy, could I convince you to file an issue for that for me? ;) 22:42 rubenwardy lol 22:44 rubenwardy #7963 22:44 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7963 -- Android: dlopen failed: cannot locate symbol "stderr" referenced by "libgmp.so" 22:45 VanessaE going from 4 decent screens and mechanical keybord to this... postage stamp of a phone screen with onscreen keyboard is... aaaaaaaaahhhhhhggg 22:45 VanessaE thanks :) 22:52 Jordach VanessaE, four screeens? how about a 3x3 matrix ;) 22:53 VanessaE im not rich :P 22:53 Jordach lmao, my note 8 is fucking too big and i want a smaller phone 22:53 VanessaE besides, 4 is my GPU's limit 22:54 VanessaE this is just a Galaxy S4 22:55 Jordach ah 22:55 Jordach my phones 6.5" display is monstrous, it dwarfs someones little nokia 3310 :) 22:57 VanessaE i could tolerate it easier if I could just use my keyboard and one screen with this phone somehow 22:57 Jordach ironically my phone has the horsepower to enter a full desktop mode with full kb/m support when docked 22:57 Jordach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_DeX 22:58 Jordach "Samsung also announced "Linux on Galaxy", which allows use of a compatible Linux distribution" 22:58 Jordach jesus fucking christ 22:58 VanessaE ... 22:59 Jordach quite impressive considering it's inside a bloody phone 23:00 VanessaE meh 23:00 VanessaE :P 23:02 Jordach i mean full desktop linux on a phone that can make calls and return to droid is quite fancy in of itself 23:09 Fixer 6.5" plus 24V 20kg POWERBANK 23:14 Fixer Calinou: https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/ 23:30 BillyS Is it possible to have an inventory with potentially infinite size? 23:33 Jordach yes 23:34 BillyS Interesting ... 23:34 BillyS (A node inventory I'm taking about)