Time |
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Megaf |
Downloading server list... |
00:30 |
Megaf |
Traceback (most recent call last): |
00:30 |
Megaf |
File "mt_serverlist_points.py", line 126, in <module> |
00:30 |
Megaf |
import urllib.request |
00:30 |
Megaf |
ImportError: No module named request |
00:30 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: ^ |
00:31 |
Megaf |
I have to do python3 to make i t work |
00:32 |
Megaf |
84) Megaf Server v4 = 8.007364975450082 |
00:32 |
Megaf |
Why is it so badly rated? :/ |
00:34 |
Megaf |
oh, because of good uptime, but is capped at 8 |
00:34 |
Megaf |
and 0 players |
00:36 |
Megaf |
84) Megaf Server v4 = 75.15367238562091 (not limiting age...) |
00:36 |
Megaf |
well, good night |
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09:30 |
xerox123_ |
Good morning |
09:32 |
IcyDiamond |
o/ |
09:38 |
Krock |
@ OPs: Could someone please give voice to ANAND and Gael-de-Sailly ? |
09:52 |
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09:52 |
tenplus1 |
hif olks |
09:56 |
Krock |
hit enplus1 |
09:56 |
tenplus1 |
hi krock :) |
10:01 |
tenplus1 |
hi Gael-de-Sailly and ANAND |
10:02 |
tenplus1 |
also hi ruben hiding in the background |
10:02 |
rubenwardy |
o/ |
10:04 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, does that set it to persistent voice? |
10:05 |
Krock |
just wondering |
10:05 |
rubenwardy |
I'm unable to do that |
10:05 |
tenplus1 |
what's the command to do that ? |
10:06 |
rubenwardy |
/msg ChanServ flags USERNAME +V |
10:06 |
rubenwardy |
only Shara and c55 can do that, afaik |
10:06 |
tenplus1 |
Gael-de-Sailly: isnt registered to do that |
10:06 |
ANAND |
Greetings! |
10:06 |
rubenwardy |
us mortals have to use /voice username |
10:06 |
tenplus1 |
neither is NathanS21 |
10:07 |
tenplus1 |
er.. ANAND |
10:07 |
rubenwardy |
she is registered |
10:07 |
rubenwardy |
[Whois] Gael-de-Sailly is authed as Gael-de-Sailly |
10:07 |
tenplus1 |
(notice) Channel Gael-de-Sailly is not registered. |
10:07 |
rubenwardy |
channel |
10:07 |
tenplus1 |
? |
10:07 |
tenplus1 |
erk |
10:07 |
rubenwardy |
I forgot the channel name |
10:07 |
rubenwardy |
/msg ChanServ flags CHANNELUSERNAME +V |
10:08 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
10:09 |
ANAND |
Shara +v'ed me once, but that wasn't persistent - I wasn't auto-voiced on the next join |
10:11 |
tenplus1 |
brb, making noms :DD |
10:49 |
Gael-de-Sailly |
thanks rubenwardy |
10:50 |
Krock |
My life is complete, now I can leave in peace. - GdS |
10:51 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
11:00 |
* xerox123_ |
decided to remove the dual boot |
11:00 |
tenplus1 |
aww, problems ? also hiii |
11:00 |
xerox123_ |
I have exams in a couple weeks and don't have the time to spend tinkering with it |
11:00 |
tenplus1 |
lol, it was already there :P |
11:00 |
tenplus1 |
could easily leave it to after exams |
11:00 |
xerox123_ |
Maybe if I get my own PC |
11:00 |
tenplus1 |
oh yeah, was family pc... gotcha |
11:01 |
xerox123_ |
yeah :/ |
11:02 |
tenplus1 |
watching new tech videos about smartphone design... they are getting much better |
11:02 |
xerox123_ |
Wait, gael is female? *Mind blown* |
11:03 |
xerox123_ |
12:03 and I'm still in bed |
11:03 |
tenplus1 |
heh, it's sunday afterall |
11:04 |
xerox123_ |
Tomorrow is bank holiday too |
11:04 |
xerox123_ |
So even more sweet sweet sleep |
11:04 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
11:04 |
Krock |
xerox123_, congrats for removing the Windows boot finally |
11:05 |
tenplus1 |
:PPPP |
11:05 |
xerox123_ |
? I'm still on Windows |
11:05 |
Krock |
whereas I'm pretty sure you removed the Linux boot |
11:05 |
tenplus1 |
xubuntu all the way |
11:05 |
Krock |
* xerox123_ decided to remove the dual boot |
11:05 |
Krock |
unclear statement |
11:05 |
xerox123_ |
Ah, I removed xubuntu |
11:05 |
ANAND |
Haha |
11:06 |
Krock |
xubuntu all the way .. down the river |
11:06 |
tenplus1 |
nuuuu |
11:06 |
tenplus1 |
runs better than redhat |
11:06 |
ANAND |
:P |
11:07 |
xerox123_ |
Gonna play from freefire |
11:08 |
ANAND |
xerox123_, what problem(s) did you actually face with Linux? |
11:09 |
Krock |
1) Family members |
11:10 |
ANAND |
^ The *only* reason Windows is still a known face |
11:10 |
ANAND |
Also the reason I have to put up with dual-booting |
11:11 |
tenplus1 |
first thing I did when Mom got a laptop was install Xubuntu |
11:12 |
ANAND |
tenplus1, you must've faced opposition like never before... |
11:14 |
BillyS |
Just go at it with a ubuntu install DVD and a pipe wrench. :P |
11:14 |
tenplus1 |
not at all, she hated Windows 10 with a vengence |
11:14 |
tenplus1 |
confused the crap outta her |
11:14 |
ANAND |
XD |
11:15 |
ANAND |
lucky you... |
11:16 |
tenplus1 |
she also had 32gb m2 drive instaslled and no room left after winblows install... Xubuntu only needed 3.8gb |
11:16 |
ANAND |
True |
11:18 |
Krock |
W95 feeling with Xfce: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95/blob/master/Screenshots/SCREENSHOTS.md (to those who haven't seen it yet) |
11:18 |
ANAND |
Wow... |
11:19 |
tenplus1 |
xfce windows 10 https://cn.pling.com/img//hive/content-pre1/173834-1.png |
11:19 |
ANAND |
Whoa, is that even Linux? |
11:20 |
tenplus1 |
xfce win7 look https://i.stack.imgur.com/omfdK.png |
11:20 |
tenplus1 |
and yes, linux can be themed to look like any Os |
11:21 |
rubenwardy |
gross |
11:21 |
ANAND |
I know, but how are they using the exact same icons? Aren't they proprietary? |
11:21 |
tenplus1 |
you can get icon sets from gnome-look.org that look similar :D |
11:21 |
ANAND |
ah.. |
11:21 |
tenplus1 |
*cough* macosx on xfcwe https://img00.deviantart.net/2188/i/2015/134/d/a/xosemite___os_x_yosemite_on_xfce_by_synetcon-d8tcuwb.png |
11:22 |
ANAND |
kewl |
11:23 |
rubenwardy |
so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should |
11:23 |
ANAND |
lol |
11:23 |
tenplus1 |
lol, you could easily replace someone's Os with linux and unless they look very hard they would never really know |
11:25 |
ANAND |
<brainwave> Imma install xfce w/ Win7 and rename it's GRUB entry to Windows 7 :D </brainwave> |
11:26 |
ANAND |
/ban Windows You're just so terrible |
11:26 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
11:27 |
ANAND |
It could seriously work... My PC will be reborn! |
11:29 |
tenplus1 |
check out the best xfce/gtk3 themes on gnome-look.org - some amazing ones there |
11:31 |
ANAND |
Sweet |
11:31 |
ANAND |
bbl, afk ;) |
11:32 |
tenplus1 |
o// |
11:33 |
Krock |
tenplus1, gnome-look, xfce-look and opendesktop are all the same - but strangely don't redirect to a central one |
11:33 |
tenplus1 |
I know it's weird... especially when I was looking for IceWM themes |
11:33 |
Krock |
heh. icewm-look |
11:34 |
tenplus1 |
my desktop is IceWM with Trisquel theme :D is really nice |
11:39 |
tenplus1 |
https://cn.pling.com/img//hive/content-pre1/164600-1.png <-- whaddya think ? |
11:44 |
Krock |
mmh.. not quite my preference and the bottom right icons shouldn't have that background color - it looks like cut out and glued on top of the bar |
11:44 |
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11:44 |
tenplus1 |
wb lisac |
11:45 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, that's the system tray, they forgot to apply bar theme to it |
11:46 |
rubenwardy |
I'm sorry to say this, but I'm leaving Minetest |
11:46 |
rubenwardy |
I can't deal with this any more |
11:46 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=317927#p317927 |
11:46 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
11:47 |
tenplus1 |
a fury mod ? |
11:47 |
rubenwardy |
I wish |
11:47 |
rubenwardy |
A nick fury mod would be awesome |
11:47 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
11:48 |
tenplus1 |
hats and tails on players are easily done with object attachments |
11:51 |
Krock |
Oh I want this so much |
11:51 |
Krock |
but also with cat ears to enable on demand |
11:52 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: http://minecraftgallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/nickfurry.png |
11:52 |
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11:52 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
11:52 |
rubenwardy |
no |
11:52 |
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11:52 |
IhrFussel |
Hey there tenplus1 =) |
11:52 |
* tenplus1 |
thought ruben was joking... |
11:53 |
IhrFussel |
Is it "renameda protection in ..." or "renamed a protection as ..." ? |
11:53 |
* Krock |
too |
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11:53 |
tenplus1 |
wb :P |
11:53 |
Krock |
reeeee |
11:53 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, I must say you scared me for a moment |
11:58 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, context? "Renamed the protection at XYZ to Foo Bar Baz" |
11:59 |
Krock |
or maybe also "Named a protection Foo Bar Baz" |
12:01 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, "to" seems to be correct...I didn't think of that, but thanks =P |
12:01 |
Krock |
!next |
12:01 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
12:08 |
BillyS |
hehe |
12:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi billy |
12:08 |
BillyS |
hi |
12:08 |
rdococ |
hi rdococ |
12:09 |
BillyS |
My internet is SO SLOW. |
12:09 |
tenplus1 |
o/ rdococ |
12:09 |
BillyS |
I am getting like 300 Kbps |
12:09 |
rdococ |
BillyS's internet is SO SLOW |
12:09 |
BillyS |
agreed, for once |
12:10 |
Krock |
BillyS, enough for playing Minetest |
12:10 |
BillyS |
It should be illegial to have internet this slow. Congress sure seems to like making laws about random stuff that doesn't matter and doesn't apply to them, so why don't they do something about this? |
12:10 |
BillyS |
Krock: No, its not even enough to load a ewbpage |
12:10 |
BillyS |
*webpage |
12:11 |
Krock |
*it's |
12:12 |
Krock |
In the US, I assume? A working health insurance seems more important IMO |
12:12 |
rdococ |
Does the client keep a cache of the nodes and stuff a server has sent to it? I think it keeps a cache of textures, but I'm not sure about other stuff |
12:12 |
tenplus1 |
websites arent that well optimized these days... 1.2mb min |
12:12 |
Krock |
rdococ, see client/media/cache/ |
12:12 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Maybe having internet this slow doesn't apply to them either ;) |
12:12 |
tenplus1 |
rdococ: it caches texture and models I think, nothing else |
12:13 |
Krock |
textures, models and sound files |
12:13 |
tenplus1 |
oh yeah, forgot about the oggs |
12:13 |
Krock |
and translation files now since 0.5.0-dev too |
12:13 |
BillyS |
rdococ: Pretty sure it doesn't. Chances are, they are spending taxpayer money on top of the line itnernet for them |
12:14 |
rdococ |
BillyS: I'd love to have good itnernet |
12:14 |
BillyS |
Me 2 |
12:14 |
tenplus1 |
what speeds are you paying for ? |
12:14 |
rdococ |
BillyS: I was joking, you mis-spelled "itnernet". I have reasonably fast internet speed most of the time. |
12:15 |
rdococ |
I'd also love to have good itaonestoanet |
12:16 |
* BillyS |
grabs rdococ's internet and runs |
12:16 |
* rdococ |
watches as BillyS has trouble connecting to the internet as it is protected by its yay shield |
12:17 |
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12:17 |
tenplus1 |
wb davisonio |
12:17 |
Krock |
"I have reasonably fast internet speed". >= 100 Mbps upload and download stats from speedtest or it didn't happen |
12:17 |
davisonio |
Thanks |
12:17 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
12:18 |
* BillyS |
wishs he had 100Mbps up |
12:18 |
tenplus1 |
max I've had is 64mb/sec download and 3mb.sec upload |
12:18 |
BillyS |
And down, for that matter |
12:18 |
* Krock |
would like to have a faster connection too |
12:18 |
BillyS |
I have 3mb/sec up and 256 kb/serc down, but its shared with 5 peopel |
12:18 |
BillyS |
*people |
12:18 |
BillyS |
*sec |
12:19 |
Krock |
*Mb |
12:19 |
davisonio |
https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Sg7Qaawh/IMG_2252.PNG |
12:19 |
davisonio |
Internet here sucks |
12:20 |
Megaf |
tenplus1: hi |
12:20 |
Megaf |
hi all |
12:20 |
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12:21 |
tenplus1 |
what Os billy ? |
12:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
12:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
12:21 |
Megaf |
wb Fixer |
12:22 |
Fixer |
hi |
12:22 |
Krock |
18 Mbps here currently. It'll surely go down in the next hours (afternoon/evening traffic) |
12:25 |
Megaf |
tenplus1: enjoying the heatwave? |
12:25 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
12:25 |
tenplus1 |
20c outside; P |
12:26 |
Megaf |
https://darksky.net/forecast/53.3731,-6.2718/ca12/en |
12:26 |
Megaf |
yep |
12:27 |
Megaf |
and UV index is 5, toasty |
12:27 |
tenplus1 |
so long as we get an even mix of uv-a and uv-b it's all good... too much of one causes skins issues |
12:28 |
Fixer |
20c heatwave, lol |
12:28 |
Krock |
Megaf, I selected year ~2045 in that weather time machine: "ERROR - You done goofed." |
12:29 |
Megaf |
hah |
12:29 |
Megaf |
Krock: how long did it take you to get to year 2045? |
12:30 |
Krock |
about four clicks |
12:30 |
Fixer |
6-7 here when sunlight |
12:31 |
Megaf |
2028 is the max prediction |
12:32 |
Megaf |
This day in 2028 it will not be 20C, global heating debunked |
12:32 |
Megaf |
global warming* |
12:32 |
rdococ |
I just called "13.75 Mbps" "reasonably fast" |
12:33 |
rdococ |
The UK shouldn't be getting heatwaves, global warming is real |
12:33 |
rdococ |
Everyone knows our weather is meant to be cloudy, rainy, and at 15 C on a good day |
12:33 |
rdococ |
Why is there a giant yellow ball in the sky |
12:33 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
12:34 |
Megaf |
good point ^ |
12:34 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Do you get 13.75 Mbps? |
12:35 |
rdococ |
Megaf: Or maybe you should think of why the term "Climate Change" was popularizedâ„¢ |
12:35 |
rdococ |
It's not just warmingâ„¢ |
12:36 |
rdococ |
Mexicans should be glad of the wall, it keeps the Humpty Trumpy outâ„¢ |
12:41 |
rdococ |
I want to build a wall and make Theresa May pay for itâ„¢ |
12:41 |
rdococ |
Wall doesn't even have to have any purpose, I just want Theresa May to payâ„¢ |
12:41 |
Megaf |
Are they actually building the wall? |
12:42 |
Fixer |
bestest shitposting on mtg-hub in its glory |
12:42 |
rdococ |
Megaf: If so, all you will need is some plane tickets |
12:42 |
Megaf |
I have USA Visa already |
12:42 |
rdococ |
Although I don't think you'd want to enter the US anymore |
12:43 |
rdococ |
Don't come here, either, because of Theresa Nayâ„¢ |
12:43 |
xerox123_ |
BillyS: my mobile data http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/3894357573 |
12:43 |
xerox123_ |
My home internet is 38/9.5 |
12:44 |
rdococ |
xerox123_: Your mobile data is faster than my home broadband |
12:44 |
rdococ |
xerox123_: What broadband service do you use? |
12:44 |
xerox123_ |
Mobile: 3 Home: TalkTalk Fibre |
12:44 |
rdococ |
Net Neutralityâ„¢: Some American thing that Americans whine about losing while everyone else wonders why they're whining so muchâ„¢ |
12:45 |
rdococ |
Yayâ„¢ |
12:45 |
BillyS |
If climate change is real, there isn't much we can do about it anyways. |
12:45 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Why isn't there? |
12:45 |
rdococ |
BillyS wants the world to burnâ„¢ |
12:45 |
BillyS |
What do you suggest doing? |
12:45 |
rdococ |
I'm not a climate scientist, idiot |
12:46 |
rdococ |
Do you see me in charge of figuring out how to solve climate change? No. |
12:46 |
xerox123_ |
I say we made a hole in the sky so the heat can get out |
12:46 |
xerox123_ |
Make* |
12:46 |
xerox123_ |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
12:46 |
BillyS |
Considering that a volcano spews out more greenhouse gases then mankind did during the invdustial revolution, I don't think that we have much effect on the climate at all. |
12:46 |
rdococ |
I think we should reinstall the Sun so it stops overheating |
12:46 |
xerox123_ |
Checkmate Globe Earthists! |
12:46 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Citation needed? |
12:46 |
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12:46 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
12:47 |
Megaf |
Gotta buy milk, feeling lazy tho |
12:47 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Again, citation needed? Plus, either way, that doesn't make climate change irreversible. |
12:48 |
BillyS |
Can't find a citation. Internet is too slow |
12:48 |
BillyS |
Besides, the world is gonna burn anways, so who cares? |
12:49 |
BillyS |
I'm more concerned with people such as radical muslims who are intent on killing me. |
12:49 |
BillyS |
(Although, not me specifially) |
12:49 |
rdococ |
I'm also concerned about anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, etc. that manipulate human flaws to convince people to their side. |
12:50 |
aerozoic |
BillyS, here's a citation: http://cessna.txtav.com/en/citation/x |
12:50 |
* rdococ |
puts BillyS on a Citation |
12:51 |
xerox123_ |
Research Globe Earthâ„¢ |
12:51 |
aerozoic |
wazup tenplus1 |
12:51 |
* BillyS |
enjoys the ride |
12:52 |
rdococ |
I hate it when people say "Question everything" and then completely avoid questioning their flat-earth, anti-vaccination or other beliefs |
12:52 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
12:52 |
rdococ |
I try to make sure to question everything but when there's stuff I'm sure is true or false, then people might moan at me for not questioning it further |
12:53 |
rdococ |
The government is so incompetent that it doesn't deal with the conspiracy theorists that are actually correct, while so competent that it can put these conspiracies into action without people becoming suspicious until years later... or maybe the conspiracies are wrong |
12:54 |
BillyS |
See 9-11 |
12:54 |
rdococ |
On occasion, yes, reasonable people uncover something that the governemnts were hiding, but it's never as big as the shape of the Earth |
12:55 |
rdococ |
BillyS: 9-11 was accidentally caused by a time traveller trying to prevent it |
12:55 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WjyTV98lg <-- might help |
12:55 |
BillyS |
Uh-huh. |
12:55 |
BillyS |
Actually, it was a demolition |
12:55 |
rdococ |
Huh, a Life Noggin video |
12:56 |
rdococ |
BillyS: CITATION. NEEDED!!! |
12:56 |
BillyS |
There is no other way to explain how the towers feel straight down. |
12:56 |
rdococ |
There might be and you're ignoring it. |
12:56 |
BillyS |
Also, in many videos you can see the puffs of smoke shoot out the side as explosives went off. |
12:57 |
BillyS |
Not to mention, the frame was completely destroyed. |
12:57 |
rdococ |
Video footage please? |
12:57 |
rdococ |
Couldn't find any unedited footage of 9/11. |
12:57 |
BillyS |
You really expect be to believe that an office fire melted through steel I-beams in seconds? |
12:58 |
rdococ |
An office fire? |
12:58 |
BillyS |
Or a gas fire, if thats what people claim now. |
12:58 |
rdococ |
What is an office fire? |
12:59 |
BillyS |
And this is probably annoying and off-topci to others rn |
12:59 |
BillyS |
*off-topic |
12:59 |
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12:59 |
rdococ |
The phrase "office fire" gives no indication as to what kind of fire it is. Gasoline? Other oils? Wood? Electrical? |
13:00 |
BillyS |
In this case, it was gas. |
13:00 |
rdococ |
BillyS: looks like from some picture that it was wind. Did you know that wind blows stuff? |
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13:01 |
BillyS |
You think wind started a fire? |
13:02 |
longerstaff13-m |
It can blow fure to other objects |
13:02 |
longerstaff13-m |
Fire* |
13:02 |
rdococ |
No, you idiot, the wind blew the puffs of smoke. |
13:02 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7286976152 |
13:02 |
rdococ |
Do you seriously think I would claim that wind could start a fire? |
13:02 |
longerstaff13-m |
Damn ruben, that's cool |
13:02 |
rdococ |
It might, I don't know, but not in the case of 9/11! |
13:02 |
IhrFussel |
"pilodinal_abscess" what a wonderful player name |
13:02 |
BillyS |
Sarcastically, yes. |
13:03 |
* rdococ |
steals rubenwardy's internet |
13:03 |
rdococ |
BillyS: I'm surprised that was sarcasm tbh. |
13:03 |
rubenwardy |
oh no! |
13:03 |
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longerstaff13-m |
rubenwardy: usually on my ISP I have 30-ishMbps down and 9Mbps up |
13:04 |
rdococ |
Oh yay, rubenwardyâ„¢ |
13:05 |
BillyS |
I’m not interested in having you ruin my day by pulling me down a useless rabbit hole full of junk just to prove that I was correct, a fact that you usually won’t admit. |
13:06 |
longerstaff13-m |
Stop arguing |
13:06 |
BillyS |
Thats exactly what I'm doing, LS |
13:07 |
longerstaff13-m |
No you aren't, you're carrying it on |
13:07 |
longerstaff13-m |
By reyig to him |
13:07 |
longerstaff13-m |
Replying* |
13:10 |
longerstaff13-m |
rubenwardy: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iJMjzb6N/Screenshot_2018-05-06-14-09-57.png |
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13:11 |
longerstaff13-m |
I can't even connect XD my connection is bad sometimes |
13:11 |
tenplus1 |
ouch |
13:12 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, just curious if you have future plans for farming redo? |
13:13 |
tenplus1 |
will slow but surely add new crops and optimize the poission growing routines |
13:13 |
tenplus1 |
got anything in mind ? |
13:20 |
tenplus1 |
aerozoic ??? |
13:20 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, i was mainly just curious if you had any spoilers XD |
13:21 |
tenplus1 |
ahh... ehehe, thought you had some ideas :D |
13:21 |
aerozoic |
SOmething did occur to me though |
13:21 |
tenplus1 |
if someone could do textures for additional food items I would happily use them |
13:21 |
aerozoic |
Herbs and spices. |
13:23 |
tenplus1 |
that would be handy... |
13:23 |
aerozoic |
I'm not a texture person. Wish i was! |
13:23 |
tenplus1 |
herbs grow quick so 3 step textures maybe... mint, basil, thyme, lemongrass, ginger root |
13:24 |
aerozoic |
But then i started wondering how you would to herbs and spices. Because nobody finds them in the wild, they are always bought from the store as seeds. |
13:25 |
tenplus1 |
redo doesnt use seeds so we would find them on the map amidst bushels and stuff and plant cuttings/actual herbs to regrow |
13:26 |
aerozoic |
Yeah the same is true for all farming crops. LOL idk what i was thinking |
13:27 |
aerozoic |
Oh yeah i remember. They are normally grown indoors in little trays that hold several plants. |
13:28 |
tenplus1 |
could easily make a window tray with {soil=3} group that allows you to grow herbs :D |
13:28 |
tenplus1 |
that's how hydrophonics mod works :D |
13:30 |
rdococ |
hydroponics: putting water on wool to make stuff growâ„¢ |
13:30 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
13:30 |
aerozoic |
oh tenplus1, i had another idea, actually one of my players did. Farming redo has the ingredients for several flavors of ice cream :D |
13:31 |
rdococ |
Putting plants on hydroponics would mean you can add nutritional stuff to the hydroponics to control how fast it grows? Yayâ„¢ |
13:31 |
tenplus1 |
adding basic food items is ok, but additional foods is really up for a new mod :) |
13:31 |
rdococ |
Ice cream is made from seaweed and fish |
13:31 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
13:31 |
rdococ |
Everyone knows that |
13:31 |
aerozoic |
ah ok, cool |
13:32 |
tenplus1 |
ruben has a nice food mod with sweets and such ;) could easil be added to |
13:32 |
tenplus1 |
I tend to give 1 example food for the crop in question as a default :P |
13:33 |
aerozoic |
that's a good standard to stick with :) |
13:33 |
tenplus1 |
pie (cake) mod lets you use ingredients :P |
13:34 |
xerox123_ |
rubenwardy: are those speeds from a university connection? |
13:36 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, i guess that means butter won't be added? |
13:37 |
tenplus1 |
I coudl add butter do mobs redo animals |
13:37 |
tenplus1 |
the cow makes cheese already :) no reason I cant add butter |
13:37 |
aerozoic |
That's what i was thinking :) |
13:38 |
tenplus1 |
it currently cooks milk into cheese |
13:38 |
tenplus1 |
how about 1x bucket milk + 1x salt = 1x butter ? |
13:41 |
aerozoic |
hmm |
13:41 |
aerozoic |
I can't think of anything better |
13:42 |
aerozoic |
unless you wanted to do like you did in farming redo and add a butter churn |
13:42 |
rdococ |
English loves its consonant clusters |
13:43 |
rdococ |
"str" in "strength" |
13:43 |
rdococ |
Ooh, a butter churn |
13:43 |
tenplus1 |
lol, butter churn would be nice but someone would have to add as mod :D |
13:44 |
rdococ |
you smelt milk to get cheese? |
13:44 |
tenplus1 |
quickly cooking milk bucket gives cheese, yes... |
13:44 |
tenplus1 |
was an old mc recipe :D |
13:44 |
aerozoic |
no i mean it could be a utensil like petals and mortar |
13:44 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: when did YKW have cheese? o_O |
13:44 |
rdococ |
based on a look on the interyays, "smelting milk to get cheese" seems accurate enough |
13:45 |
tenplus1 |
dunno rdococ, like I said an old recipe :D they've had cows for ages |
13:45 |
tenplus1 |
adding salt to bucket milk to give butter is easy also |
13:45 |
rdococ |
YKW has never had cheese... |
13:45 |
rdococ |
At least not vanilla YKW... mmm, ice cream |
13:46 |
xerox123 |
YKW? |
13:46 |
BillyS |
- YOu Knoew What |
13:46 |
BillyS |
*Knoew |
13:46 |
aerozoic |
yeah that's more basic, it's up to you |
13:46 |
BillyS |
*Know |
13:46 |
BillyS |
= MC |
13:46 |
xerox123 |
why Are people so afraid of sating minecraft? |
13:46 |
xerox123 |
saying* |
13:47 |
aerozoic |
They don't want to admit that they play it. |
13:47 |
rdococ |
xerox123: It's a bit of a joke I started |
13:47 |
rdococ |
aerozoic: I don't play it |
13:47 |
aerozoic |
denial XD |
13:47 |
rdococ |
I have it, yes |
13:47 |
rdococ |
I don't play it |
13:48 |
rdococ |
I brought YKW:PE before it became Cash Grab Editionâ„¢ |
13:48 |
tenplus1 |
wait a sec, milk + salt = butter, but what if the player doesnt use farming redo, no salt... any alternative recipe ? |
13:49 |
rdococ |
acid + metal = salt |
13:49 |
rdococ |
â„¢ |
13:49 |
aerozoic |
yeah... milk + butter churn = butter |
13:49 |
* rdococ |
gives tenplus1 some sodium metal and some hydrochloric acidâ„¢ |
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13:49 |
aerozoic |
lol |
13:49 |
rdococ |
I was planning to create a mod that added acid nodes that dissolve certain materials |
13:50 |
* BillyS |
grabs the hydrochloric adic, pours it on aluminum, waits a moment, and then lights it |
13:50 |
* BillyS |
watches the aluminum explode into flame |
13:50 |
BillyS |
Yay |
13:50 |
rdococ |
You'd be able to do inquarting to refine gold if there's too much silver in itâ„¢ |
13:50 |
BillyS |
I've done that before |
13:50 |
BillyS |
It's fun |
13:50 |
rdococ |
BillyS: Try scoring the aluminum and then pouring gallium on it ;) |
13:50 |
rdococ |
After a while it turns super brittle and you can break it with your fists |
13:51 |
BillyS |
Yeah, then I won't need to light it |
13:52 |
rdococ |
Anyway, onto my acid concept: Ore would no longer come in the form of blocks that you mine to get lumps of the pure ore that you can then smelt into pure metal; rather, there would be various combination ores such as "gold silver ore", which you would have to do inquarting (requiring "silver ore") to dissolve the silver away and get pure gold dust |
13:53 |
rdococ |
That or you'd have low-grade ores, "low-grade gold" would have a lot of impurities that you would have to use chemistry to remove |
13:54 |
BillyS |
sounds n00b-rpoof |
13:54 |
BillyS |
*proof |
13:54 |
rdococ |
Which means BillyS won't be able to play itâ„¢ |
13:54 |
rdococ |
jk |
13:54 |
BillyS |
Aww, now I don't have an excuse to kill you anymore. :P |
13:55 |
rdococ |
You need an excuse to kill people? :P |
13:55 |
BillyS |
Only if you get caught |
13:56 |
rdococ |
True |
13:57 |
rdococ |
Anyway, you would have low-grade ores, and the low-grade ores would either require crafting with specific materials such as acids, or to be put into certain machines, to get the metal you want |
13:57 |
rdococ |
Low-grade gold would basically be useless, but if you purify it then you get gold dust, 4 of which makes, say, a gold ingot |
13:57 |
rdococ |
We seriously need some sort of furnace crafting table so you can smelt-craft stuff together |
13:58 |
tenplus1 |
+100 |
13:58 |
tenplus1 |
a 2x2 craft grid inside furnace |
13:58 |
tenplus1 |
depending on placement/item it smelts different items/cooks food |
13:58 |
rdococ |
And maybe a separate advanced furnace with a 3x3 crafting grid |
13:59 |
BillyS |
interesting yayidea |
13:59 |
BillyS |
Maybe I could make a PR to MT game |
13:59 |
rdococ |
Yaysa |
14:00 |
rdococ |
IcyDiamond: In melterns, you could override the default tools to have only 1 use |
14:01 |
rdococ |
Except for wood and stone, of course |
14:01 |
rdococ |
Also, what the tool's components are (tool handle, tool head, etc) could be in the tooltip |
14:01 |
IcyDiamond |
yeah |
14:02 |
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14:03 |
rdococ |
Also, circular saw mod is yay |
14:03 |
* aerozoic |
yay for crappy internet :) |
14:03 |
IcyDiamond |
yay mod is circular saw |
14:03 |
* rdococ |
engulfs aerozoic for thinking that he plays YKW |
14:03 |
rdococ |
Delicious, tastes like the wind |
14:03 |
* rdococ |
farts |
14:03 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
14:04 |
tenplus1 |
Mobs_Animal updated (now has butter and 2x recipes) |
14:04 |
* rdococ |
eats all of the butter |
14:05 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
14:05 |
rdococ |
Alchemy mod: transmute lead into goldâ„¢ |
14:10 |
tenplus1 |
and gold into butter |
14:10 |
rdococ |
Lol, gold does look like butter doesn't it |
14:11 |
IcyDiamond |
:P |
14:11 |
rdococ |
If you inquart it with the purest mithril you get ice creamâ„¢ |
14:11 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
14:11 |
rdococ |
It'd be nice to have a furnace-crafting table so that you could do inquarting in a way that makes sense (how are you going to mix two hard lumps of metal or two hard ingots of metal when they're not even in their melted state?!) |
14:12 |
rdococ |
"Nitric acid is made by reaction of nitrogen dioxide (NO2) with water." |
14:13 |
tenplus1 |
I still think a level 2 furnace for smelting is a good idea |
14:13 |
rdococ |
Hm, looks like you might need nitric acid to get the metals required to get nitric acid |
14:13 |
BillyS |
â„¢ |
14:13 |
rdococ |
Have fun with circular craftingâ„¢ |
14:14 |
rdococ |
Or at very high temperatures you can get nitrogen to oxidize... hm |
14:15 |
rdococ |
Looks like most iron on Earth is bounded in silicates |
14:16 |
rdococ |
"Iron ores consist of oxygen and iron atoms bonded together into molecules. To convert it to metallic iron it must be smelted or sent through a direct reduction process to remove the oxygen. Oxygen-iron bonds are strong, and to remove the iron from the oxygen, a stronger elemental bond must be presented to attach to the oxygen. Carbon is used because the strength of a carbon-oxygen bond is greater than that of the iron-oxygen bond, at high |
14:16 |
rdococ |
temperatures. Thus, the iron ore must be powdered and mixed with coke, to be burnt in the smelting process." |
14:16 |
rdococ |
Yay, we have our crafting recipe! iron ore + coal = iron |
14:17 |
tenplus1 |
*steel ? |
14:17 |
rdococ |
"However, it is not entirely as simple as that. Carbon monoxide is the primary ingredient of chemically stripping oxygen from iron. Thus, the iron and carbon smelting must be kept at an oxygen deficient (reducing) state to promote burning of carbon to produce CO not CO |
14:17 |
rdococ |
2." |
14:17 |
rdococ |
Forget it, I'm only interested in ores that require acids to dissolve away impurities. |
14:18 |
rdococ |
Ooh, tenplus1: Imagine: carbon nanotube swords. Deadly to touch. |
14:20 |
tenplus1 |
light to the touch, fast swing, sharp as hell :D |
14:20 |
* xerox123 |
connects back to xanadu after a long time |
14:21 |
tenplus1 |
lot of new features added xerox :d |
14:21 |
IcyDiamond |
!title https://github.com/LunaSquee/melterns/commit/29768bc5f3b0499b3c6c6f722445202d10ada661 |
14:21 |
MinetestBot |
IcyDiamond: Add current components to tool description · LunaSquee/melterns29768bc · GitHub |
14:21 |
IcyDiamond |
there we go |
14:21 |
rdococ |
"Free hydrochloric acid was first formally described in the 16th century by Libavius, who prepared it by heating salt in clay crucibles." |
14:22 |
rdococ |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid |
14:22 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: Yay! I will need some of your salt so I can smelt itâ„¢ |
14:22 |
rdococ |
BillyS: You're also a good source of saltâ„¢ |
14:27 |
tenplus1 |
alternative recipe (if farming redo isnt active) is to use milk bucket + sapling since some saplings are high in salinity |
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14:27 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
14:30 |
tenplus1 |
I think mt should have a base mod that contains basic items for use with all mods, food items etc. |
14:33 |
rubenwardy |
xerox123: my home |
14:34 |
tenplus1 |
thats the good thing about mc is that it has a base for mods to use items for crafting, e.g. bucket of milk, wheat etc. whereas mt needs to check if mod exists and change recipes accordingly |
14:34 |
rubenwardy |
Virgin 200 Gamer |
14:34 |
IcyDiamond |
lol |
14:34 |
rubenwardy |
with group based crafting, you don't need to change recipes necessarily |
14:34 |
IcyDiamond |
automatic dependency resolution please |
14:36 |
tenplus1 |
exctly ruben, which is why I added {food_?} groups to farming and mobs, as did bbq mod |
14:45 |
IcyDiamond |
[1] 994 segmentation fault (core dumped) ./bin/minetest |
14:45 |
IcyDiamond |
I WASN'T PLAYING ANYWAY, THANKS |
14:46 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
[178975.444757] minetest[31583]: segfault at 7feb16cf12a0 ip 00007feb16cf12a0 sp 00007ffee7977568 error 15 in libc-2.26.so[7feb16cf0000+2000] |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
[180796.557527] Server[1399]: segfault at 1000119 ip 000055f4ee47f4d7 sp 00007fbff37fd5b0 error 4 in minetest[55f4edf0f000+780000] |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
for the geeks here |
14:46 |
* tenplus1 |
understands nothing |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
it's just a bunch of memory addresses and crap |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
nothing anyone can really do about it |
14:46 |
IcyDiamond |
:P |
14:47 |
IcyDiamond |
s/about/with/ |
14:48 |
IcyDiamond |
a mysterious error happened in libc-2.26.so that made everything hit the shitter |
14:48 |
IcyDiamond |
basically |
14:48 |
* tenplus1 |
still gets the odd serialize.h error that cannot be tracked |
15:04 |
IcyDiamond |
why is the boat called a boat when its clearly a raft |
15:05 |
tenplus1 |
good point |
15:05 |
xerox123 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ we'll never know |
15:05 |
tenplus1 |
maybe it transforms |
15:05 |
IcyDiamond |
the one who added it was thinking about YKW without considering the model |
15:05 |
IcyDiamond |
:P |
15:07 |
rdococ |
Backzies |
15:07 |
rdococ |
IcyDiamond: food_milk? |
15:07 |
IcyDiamond |
malk |
15:07 |
rdococ |
s/ IcyDiamond / tenplus1 / |
15:07 |
rdococ |
food_milkâ„¢ |
15:07 |
rdococ |
I love to enjoy some food_milk |
15:08 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
15:09 |
* rdococ |
gives tenplus1 some nitric acid and a gold-silver ore lump |
15:09 |
* tenplus1 |
sells them for cheese |
15:09 |
* rdococ |
steals the cheese |
15:09 |
tenplus1 |
nuuuuu |
15:09 |
* rdococ |
mixes it with some yay essence to produce gold |
15:09 |
rdococ |
Gold should be used more |
15:09 |
rdococ |
It could be used to create amulets and stuff that do things |
15:10 |
xerox123 |
most used 8 char word is 'minetest', surprisingly enough |
15:10 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, we need more items... 3d_armor could easily add necklaces |
15:10 |
xerox123 |
1,483 times |
15:10 |
tenplus1 |
have a trinket slot |
15:10 |
rdococ |
If two people wear amulets with the same UID, the two will be interconnected and will be able to swap positions at will |
15:10 |
rdococ |
Sort of like DeathSwap, but voluntary |
15:11 |
tenplus1 |
hrmmmm |
15:11 |
rdococ |
If three people wear amulets with the same UID, then clicking will cause the other two players to swap places |
15:11 |
tenplus1 |
that would make /tpr a game mechanic using items |
15:11 |
rdococ |
Ooh, new minigame: Minetest survival with mobs and stuff, and 3 players randomly distributed on the map. When one player uses their magic yay amulet to click, the other two players swap places |
15:12 |
rdococ |
Last player alive wins all 3 amulets |
15:12 |
xerox123 |
who's up for gunparty? |
15:12 |
rdococ |
not yet |
15:12 |
xerox123 |
aw |
15:13 |
xerox123 |
it's not up it seems |
15:13 |
tenplus1 |
is the new 3d_armor mod stable now ? |
15:16 |
rdococ |
xerox123: I recommend looking on r/WritingPrompts, it's awesome |
15:17 |
xerox123 |
not my thing |
15:19 |
xerox123 |
my favourite: r/quityourbullshit lol |
15:20 |
rdococ |
https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/8hcbbu/ <- Writing prompt about a universe where doing good deeds gets you negative years in prison |
15:23 |
Megaf |
!title |
15:23 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: reddit: the front page of the internet |
15:24 |
IcyDiamond |
Lol |
15:25 |
rdococ |
There's one about a shapeshifter in a village that's also the perfect scapegoat because the others in the village can just claim to be the shapeshifter |
15:32 |
rdococ |
This one's also fun: "You're a dragon who enjoys living a peaceful life away from humans when one day, a princess shows up asking you to "kidnap" her so she doesn't have to get married." |
15:33 |
Krock |
https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/8h829z/ Instant Doctor Who flashbacks (Clara Oswald) |
15:40 |
* tenplus1 |
kinda likes the idea of having an armor block for players to use intead of adding to inventory |
15:41 |
rdococ |
Idea: Survival with only one inventory slot |
15:41 |
rdococ |
Or, heck, even 0, but you'd have the ability to pick up tool entities like a gravity gun but different and smack them against blocks |
15:47 |
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15:51 |
Fixer |
oh boy, N pages of shitposting ._. |
15:51 |
rdococ |
I need ideas: How should nitric acid be crafted? |
15:52 |
rdococ |
Iron lumps would be crafted with coal and smelted; gold lumps require inquarting with silver lumps and then nitric acid |
16:01 |
tenplus1 |
support for POVA added to 3d_armor (pull) |
16:05 |
rdococ |
Looks like IRL gold ore is only about 8-20% silver |
16:05 |
rdococ |
s/20/10/ |
16:08 |
xerox123 |
cheap biscuits + tea = not good |
16:09 |
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16:09 |
Mr_Pardison |
\o |
16:09 |
tenplus1 |
hey mister |
16:10 |
Mr_Pardison |
sup? |
16:10 |
tenplus1 |
tinkering with mods as always :) you ? |
16:13 |
Mr_Pardison |
figuring out why the website for the business plan presentation isn't working properly. |
16:13 |
Mr_Pardison |
It will navigate to the other 3 pages but when I try and click the link button to go to the home page, it does nothing even tho I have it referenced properly. |
16:15 |
tenplus1 |
link me |
16:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
https://codeshare.io/50pXjm |
16:17 |
tenplus1 |
you have href link= |
16:17 |
xerox123 |
line 16 |
16:17 |
tenplus1 |
for home, dont need the link part |
16:17 |
xerox123 |
^ |
16:17 |
Mr_Pardison |
argghhh |
16:18 |
tenplus1 |
:PPP |
16:18 |
Mr_Pardison |
the tiniest things can really mess up a project. |
16:19 |
Mr_Pardison |
thanks. |
16:19 |
Mr_Pardison |
fixed the error and works properly. |
16:19 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor/pull/138 |
16:27 |
rdococ |
I wonder if there's a fork of Lua with zero-indexing |
16:27 |
rdococ |
Actually, considering its flexibility you could probably convert it to zero-indexing entirely within Lua itself |
16:27 |
tenplus1 |
starting each table from [0] ???? |
16:27 |
rdococ |
Only the library functions operating on tables as if they were arrays, and the table constructor syntax, assume an "array" begins at 1 |
16:29 |
rubenwardy |
you'd need to rewrite much of the standard library |
16:30 |
rdococ |
Not sure how much of it is written in C/C++ |
16:33 |
rdococ |
I'm messing with debug.setmetatable to add things like safe indexing (nil[...] = nil, rather than throwing an error), string indexing (("yay")[2] == "a", ("yaaay")(2, 4) == "aaa") and function composition ((f * g)(x) == g(f(x))) |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
16:46 |
rdococ |
The tenplus1 has yayed |
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16:46 |
tenplus1 |
wb Jordach |
16:46 |
Mr_Pardison |
the Jordach has re-appeared. |
16:46 |
tenplus1 |
will yay even louder if pova changes get into 3d_armor mod |
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paramat |
todays discipline :) .. rdococ a little too much offtopic today, see http://hub.minetest.net/info |
17:03 |
tenplus1 |
deviantart.com has many free to use icon packs |
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17:08 |
Fixer |
paramat: have you seen those features? https://i.imgur.com/1Uy9bS9.png |
17:09 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
17:10 |
Mr_Pardison |
O.o |
17:10 |
Mr_Pardison |
how does one get that great of an FPS and that low of an RTT? |
17:11 |
rdococ |
I can consistently get to 60 FPS on servers with few to no meshes |
17:12 |
Fixer |
it is singleplayer |
17:12 |
Mr_Pardison |
ah. |
17:12 |
rdococ |
I think I have an FPS cap of 60 anyway |
17:12 |
rdococ |
Not sure how fast the refresh rate is on this monitor |
17:13 |
rdococ |
"1366x768 60.07*+ 40.05" |
17:14 |
paramat |
Fixer, weird |
17:14 |
rdococ |
Hm, looks like I can choose between a refresh rate of ~60 and ~40 |
17:14 |
rdococ |
60 it is then |
17:15 |
paramat |
i haven't seen this happen, only groups of trees occasionally chopped off at a certain y value |
17:15 |
Fixer |
try reproducing it |
17:15 |
Fixer |
there is seed avail |
17:16 |
Fixer |
it is v7 iirc |
17:16 |
paramat |
yes it is |
17:16 |
Fixer |
that happened pretty recently |
17:16 |
paramat |
will try to reproduce |
17:26 |
paramat |
ok tried 3 times no bug |
17:27 |
paramat |
in a very recent master |
17:27 |
paramat |
ghost lumberjack |
17:33 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: https://pastebin.com/raw/mS3P0Y98 when pressed left arrow in content browser |
17:37 |
Fixer |
paramat: yes, I can't reproduce it too |
17:40 |
Fixer |
paramat: maybe it was fixed |
17:40 |
CWz |
freeminer has only one server left. sad |
17:40 |
Fixer |
lel, crash on exit |
17:40 |
Fixer |
freeminer is officially dead |
17:42 |
tenplus1 |
aww, what happened ? |
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17:43 |
paramat |
Fixer crash on exit is an issue, same error message? #7272 |
17:43 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7272 -- Occasional crash on shutdown / other reported crashes |
17:43 |
Mr_Pardison |
g2g now; l8r peeps! |
17:44 |
Fixer |
paramat: will compile debug one and see if I catch it again |
17:44 |
paramat |
unfortunately it seems a rare crash |
17:46 |
Fixer |
btw scaling sucks https://i.imgur.com/V1UwC3o.png |
17:47 |
Fixer |
WARNING[Main]: invalid use of background without a size[] element |
17:47 |
Fixer |
WARNING[Server]: Trying to update non-existent object: 0 |
17:47 |
Fixer |
wth are those? |
17:47 |
Krock |
Fixer, both are bugs uncovered by PRs |
17:48 |
Fixer |
Krock: uncovered or covered? %) |
17:48 |
Krock |
i.e. 0.4.x stuff now as features denoted in the logs since 0.5.0-dev |
17:48 |
Krock |
uncovered/unhidden/shown |
17:48 |
Krock |
they existed already before |
17:48 |
Fixer |
okay |
17:56 |
aerozoic |
tenplus1, u didn't like the butter churn as a utensil idea? |
17:57 |
tenplus1 |
lot of work for 1 item to make only butter :D |
17:57 |
tenplus1 |
milk + salt = easier |
17:57 |
Krock |
milk + citron juice = yummy yummy sour milk |
17:57 |
aerozoic |
well, i noticed some of the utensils in farming don't even have a use. That's why i was asking about the future of farming :) |
17:58 |
aerozoic |
like the cooking pot |
17:58 |
rdococ |
My plan was you would get hydrochloric acid from smelting salt in a furnace |
17:58 |
tenplus1 |
I got the idea from pams harvestcraft, she has MANY recipes using the basic food items and utensils to make all sorts of yummy things :) but that's for another mod |
17:59 |
rdococ |
but when I looked on Wikipedia it turns out that not many ores require processing with things such as acids |
18:00 |
aerozoic |
Makes sence i guess, butter churn could only ever be used for one thing. |
18:01 |
tenplus1 |
farming redo provides the base items so that mods can supply all of the noms and goodies :P |
18:03 |
Fixer |
paramat: i have a backtrace |
18:06 |
paramat |
is it the same error though as 7272? |
18:08 |
Fixer |
paramat: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7272#issuecomment-386897544 |
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tenplus1 |
o/ sniper |
18:11 |
paramat |
thanks, might be different, seems you didn't get 'free(): invalid next size (fast):' |
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xerox123_ |
Did some work on the garden |
19:43 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: Burgers would combine ingredients and store the ingredients used to make them in their metadata, and their nutritional value would be calculated as the sum of that of their ingredients, plus a bit more |
19:44 |
tenplus1 |
already do that on xanadu :D |
19:44 |
rdococ |
So you lose the ability to control your healing to only heal a little (if you had 9/10 hearts you wouldn't want to waste a burger, you'd want to eat an apple), but overall get more out of it |
19:52 |
IhrFussel |
!server IFS |
19:52 |
MinetestBot |
IhrFussel: [2018] IFS (IhrFussel's Server) | 94.16.121.151:25000 | Clients: 26/45, 15/31 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms |
19:52 |
IhrFussel |
Forgot command doesn't show lag |
19:54 |
IhrFussel |
Could someone add it? |
20:02 |
Fixer |
Shara: are you familiar with debugging, gdb, etc? |
20:03 |
Shara |
Depends what kind. Remember I mostly use Windows which makes everything about 1000000000000 times more annoying and complicated. |
20:03 |
rdococ |
Why would you mostly use Windows then? |
20:03 |
Shara |
Work. |
20:03 |
rdococ |
Why not use Linux when you're not doing work then? |
20:03 |
rdococ |
Or do you? |
20:04 |
Shara |
Because I don't. |
20:04 |
Shara |
I shouldn't actually need to explain my choice of OS. |
20:04 |
rdococ |
Circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works, and I only asked you why because you acknowledged that using Windows makes everything about 1000000000000 times more annoying and complicated. |
20:05 |
Shara |
everything for MT yes |
20:05 |
rdococ |
I'm simply asking you why you don't save yourself the trouble and use Linux for everything MT related (and probably everything but work related), especially seeing as you find it annoying to use Windows for MT related stuff anyway. |
20:05 |
Shara |
Because that is in itself annoying |
20:06 |
rdococ |
? |
20:06 |
Shara |
Sorry Fixer, I'd have liked to help with whatever it is, but I'm going back to more productive things, because rdococ is even more annoying than Windows. |
20:06 |
rdococ |
Then again, Windows would probably try to prevent you from dualbooting with Linux in any way possible, especially if you use W10. |
20:07 |
rdococ |
That's pretty harsh. |
20:07 |
rdococ |
I'd have accepted you comparing me to the second-most annoying thing in the world, whatever that is, but Windows? |
20:08 |
Shara |
Windows is the second most now |
20:08 |
Shara |
:) |
20:09 |
Shara |
Sorry, but I really am tired of feeling like I need to explain this. Pretty much every single thing I do that is not MT is much more convenient with my current setup. |
20:09 |
Shara |
I have used Linux multiple times as well, and never yet had a good experience runnign it for anything other than a server. |
20:11 |
Shara |
If I had space to keep another computer here, I would. But I don't. |
20:16 |
Fixer |
Shara: have you used gdb? |
20:18 |
Shara |
I seem to recall looking at it once, way back |
20:21 |
tenplus1 |
works but runs minetest oh so slowly when in use |
20:21 |
xerox123 |
what's gdb? |
20:21 |
tenplus1 |
debugger for c++ proggys |
20:22 |
xerox123 |
o |
20:22 |
Shara |
Fixer: I assume you are curious about the crash on close bug? |
20:22 |
Fixer |
Shara: yes |
20:22 |
Shara |
It's ridiculously common on the most recent MT I have |
20:22 |
Fixer |
Shara: with gdb you can take a backtrace when it crashes |
20:23 |
Fixer |
i already have a debug build you can download |
20:23 |
Shara |
Well, it seems extremely likely it's the same issue, since it's consistent with what others have reported |
20:24 |
tenplus1 |
nite all :) I sleep |
20:24 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
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Shara |
If you have everything I need and can get it to me, and it won't require me to think much at all, then I don't mind check |
20:24 |
Shara |
checking* |
20:25 |
Shara |
But I'm mostly focused on studies, so it really can't require much thinking |
20:25 |
Fixer |
Shara: are you on linux? |
20:25 |
Fixer |
or windows? |
20:25 |
Shara |
Windows |
20:26 |
Fixer |
Shara: do you have gdb installed? %) |
20:26 |
Shara |
Doesn't look like |
20:27 |
Fixer |
Shara: it will be pain in the ass then |
20:27 |
Fixer |
Shara: i can hope you have same crash |
20:27 |
Shara |
That's what I figured |
20:27 |
Shara |
This crash has only started recently |
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20:41 |
rubenwardy |
Shara, Fixer: Visual studio is a better bet than GDB on Windows |
20:41 |
Shara |
I do have VS set up... but if compiling MT is needed... just no. |
20:42 |
Shara |
Not unless someone is willing to spend time with me actually helping me get things set up so that it's not a thing that takes hours to do. |
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red-001 |
compiling minetest under VS is fun |
20:44 |
Shara |
That's one word for it |
20:44 |
red-001 |
Shara, didn't someone like make a script or something to set it up? |
20:45 |
Shara |
I did it for.. I think it was 0.4.14 and 0.4.15.. then gave up |
20:45 |
Shara |
well, gitlab can be used to just get a client |
20:45 |
Shara |
But not sure of any good way to change code and turn that into a client on Windows. |
20:48 |
Fixer |
MSVS is insane in size |
20:48 |
Fixer |
I'm using msys2, it has compilers and gdb |
20:48 |
Shara |
Size isn't too big a worry for me at least |
20:56 |
Calinou |
MSVC 2017 is not that large |
20:56 |
Calinou |
especially if you install just the C++ tools |
20:56 |
Calinou |
(5 GB installed?) |
20:57 |
Calinou |
https://www.visualstudio.com/downloads/ |
20:57 |
Calinou |
Ctrl+F "build tools" |
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Fixer |
msys2 is like 500-1000mb installed |
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