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07:26 IcyDiamond why isn't my server announced to the server list even though i enabled it
07:27 Krock IcyDiamond, because you've got to wait like 2 minutes
07:28 IcyDiamond this server has been up for like a month
07:28 IcyDiamond lol
07:28 Krock or at least until the next announce cycle of your server
07:28 Krock oh well.. what's the address?
07:28 IcyDiamond icynet.eu
07:28 Krock !up icynet.eu
07:28 MinetestBot icynet.eu:30000 is up (10ms)
07:29 Krock IcyDiamond, minetestserver --version lists CURL=1 and the announce reports status code 200?
07:29 IcyDiamond eh imma take it down for a sec and compile master
07:29 Krock if it returns the teapot status code then your server is banned for some reason
07:30 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 09:30:17: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net
07:30 IcyDiamond aaand thats it
07:30 IcyDiamond when i kill the server i get
07:30 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 09:30:42: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
07:32 Krock that's the initial announce when starting the server. if you only get 500 on kill/exit then it's ok too
07:34 Krock *when starting the server and all 5 minutes
07:35 Krock ^ never mind. ignore that. it only announces fully on startup, so I think the master server didn't notice that
07:36 IcyDiamond i love my scripts, i just do ./build.sh && ./update-mods.py and im all up to date
07:36 IcyDiamond :D
07:37 Krock but those won't be executed in parallel, which would optimize the duration
07:37 IcyDiamond meh
07:37 IcyDiamond no big deal
07:37 IcyDiamond nobody plays on my server anyway
07:37 IcyDiamond :P
07:37 Krock yes, because it's not shown
07:38 IcyDiamond XD
08:40 IcyDiamond it still is not announced
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10:29 rdococ I said this earlier but nobody seems to have noticed: Snap! ( https://snap.berkeley.edu/ ) is an interesting programming language. It's basically a mixture of Scratch and Scheme, introducing concepts such as first-class functions and first-class continuations into a visual drag-and-drop programming language.
10:34 Krock scratch 2.0
10:35 rdococ Scratch 2.0 has procedures, but they're not first class, you can't return values with them, and you have no first-class anything else (although there is sprite cloning now).
10:35 xerox123_ i remember using scratch in primary school :D
10:35 rdococ I wish my school would hurry up and use Scratch to teach programming so I can be amused slightly while I pretend to work
10:37 xerox123_ we dont do IT as our school doesnt have any qualified teachers
10:38 xerox123_ for IT ^
10:38 xerox123_ a shame really :/
10:38 Shara My school had... a grumpy/shouty IT teacher :)
10:39 Shara I very much doubt he was qualified either
10:39 Shara The most difficult thing they taught us was how to add two cells in a spreadsheet...
10:39 lumberJ we had mavis beacon
10:40 Shara I think they seemed to get excited about how to change text colour in a word processor once as well
10:42 Shara Fairly sure this works without issues now if anyone feels like testing and having apple trees that regrow their apples: https://github.com/Ezhh/endless_apples
10:43 rdococ My Little Node: Active Block Modifiers are laggyâ„¢
10:43 Shara That's why this doesn't use them :P
10:44 xerox123 what can I do about this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mJkQBjmY29/
10:45 xerox123 could it possibly be oom_killer?
10:45 xerox123 server does that at least 5 times a day Ive noticed
10:45 Shara OOM issues usually give an OOM error, from my experience
10:46 xerox123 but I have plenty of memory free.
10:46 Krock xerox123, because it's allocated and freed in an instant
10:47 Krock short but very large RAM usage
10:47 xerox123 hm, let me see if oom logs it's activity
10:48 xerox123 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/scwdFJxKzK/
10:48 Shara anything in MT debug?
10:51 xerox123 nothing in debug.txt
10:51 longerstaff13-m Morning
10:51 xerox123 morning
10:51 longerstaff13-m Well... Nearly afternoon
10:51 Shara Hi longerstaff13
10:51 longerstaff13-m Hi Shara
10:53 xerox123 this makes sense: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SdpQPtnHKp/
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11:00 tenplus1 hi folks
11:01 Shara Hi ten
11:01 rdococ Life is yay
11:01 rdococ and the greeting ninja has joined us
11:01 tenplus1 hi Shara :)
11:01 tenplus1 yay rdococ
11:02 Shara tenplus1: https://github.com/Ezhh/endless_apples
11:02 Shara Should work fine now I think
11:03 tenplus1 kewlio :)
11:03 tenplus1 endless apples indeed
11:05 tenplus1 did you add the tree check ?
11:05 Shara Tree check?
11:05 tenplus1 if someone cuts the whole tree down and takes all apples, do they regrow in mid air ?
11:05 Shara Oh, no, haven't done that
11:05 tenplus1 :P
11:06 Shara Hmm
11:06 xerox123 floating apples are the tastiest
11:06 tenplus1 minetest.find_node_near(pos, 1, {"group:tree"})  before making apple appear
11:06 tenplus1 hi xerox :)
11:06 xerox123 hello
11:06 Shara Yea, I can see how to check
11:06 rdococ minetest.register_on_yay()
11:06 Shara Just wondering if that's the best way
11:07 Shara rdococ: can't do that. With you around yaying all the time, it would generate too much lag
11:07 tenplus1 easiest/quickest
11:07 Shara sorry :P
11:07 tenplus1 endless loop...   minetest.register_on_yay() do_yay end
11:07 xerox123 there's a yay to start minetest on a specific PID right?
11:08 rdococ I cam simulate it with minetest.register_on_chat_message, then checking to see if the message includes a 'yay'
11:08 xerox123 if someone says yay then all the trees in the vicinity grow yayapples
11:08 tenplus1 hahaha, that would be funny
11:09 * Shara sense some mod writing in rdococ's future
11:09 tenplus1 good intentions/chat appear in the world... bad intentions/chat reverse it
11:09 rdococ Yayapples make you say yay, causing the trees that are in your vicinity when you eat them to turn into yayapples too
11:09 rdococ It's how the yayapples spread and thrive
11:10 * tenplus1 wonders if he should add silkworms
11:10 xerox123 how do I start a server instance on a certain PID?
11:10 xerox123 not seeing anything in minetestserver --help
11:10 tenplus1 so you can kill it easily ?
11:11 rdococ tenplus1: modify the bones mod so that when the player first dies, you see a "player flesh" node but as bacteria decompose it, it slowly becomes a "bones" node
11:11 xerox123 tenplus1: so I can OOM exempt it
11:11 tenplus1 oof, that would creep to many players out :P
11:11 rdococ tenplus1: if you're good at meshing you could make the bones look realistic
11:12 rdococ and maybe if someone tries to dig a player flesh node while it's in the midst of decomposing it would have a chance to revive as a ZAMBIE
11:12 rdococ not just a zombie, a ZAMBIE which knows how to teleport, creep you out and follow you for exactly 3.1415 days of ingame time
11:12 tenplus1 wait, didnt someone add a skeleton node for player bones already ?!?!
11:13 rdococ tenplus1: also, you would be able to craft a magical refrigerator that can turn rotten flesh into fresh flesh
11:13 tenplus1 lol
11:14 rdococ tenplus1: then you can do necromancy on the fresh flesh to revive players fully as themselves
11:14 tenplus1 or as npc who will do your bidding :D
11:14 rdococ Ooh, minetest permadeath mod + a mod allowing you to revive your friends, unbanning them
11:15 rdococ or maybe every time you die, a piece of your soul is chipped away . . .
11:15 tenplus1 you lose it completely and you are banned
11:15 rdococ but the grim reaper lost your paperwork and doesn't know what to do with your soul
11:15 rdococ so you end up in someone else's body . . .
11:16 tenplus1 Creatures mod did something similar... you float around as a ghost to start game, then inhabit animals and finally human npcs
11:16 rdococ A "semi-permadeath" mod which spawns you randomly when you join, and again when you respawn, preventing you from setting your spawn or home point, would be interesting
11:17 rdococ tenplus1: SCP-5395: the ghost that inhabits open-source animals made out of cubes
11:17 tenplus1 heh
11:17 rdococ Ooh, it'd be fun to implement SCPs into the game
11:18 rdococ SCP-009 would be an ice block that would convert other watery nodes (water, ice) into itself
11:18 rdococ And it would slowly kill you if you touch it
11:19 tenplus1 mob souls... hrm
11:21 rdococ that would █████ ███ ██████ ████
11:22 rdococ a system of mob and player souls would be cool
11:23 rdococ you could have them be bright, shining lights that would be able to do stuff with stuff
11:24 tenplus1 capture in a soul vial for spells n such
11:24 rdococ Hm, I wonder what power they should have
11:25 xerox123 added an OOM exempt, hopefully it doesnt kill again
11:26 rdococ why is it OOM?
11:26 tenplus1 out of memory
11:26 rdococ no, I meant why, not what does it mean
11:26 tenplus1 or "out of mushrooms" if you work in a resto
11:27 rdococ hm, looks like the original hooper mod has two forks
11:27 rdococ s/hooper/hopper/
11:27 rdococ both called hopper, so yay for problems with that
11:28 tenplus1 original hopper mod was passed onto me by jordanbainz and I continued adding features
11:28 tenplus1 facedeer forked it
11:28 Krock oof! OOM due OOP
11:28 Krock s/oof/OOF/
11:29 rdococ object oriented programming
11:29 tenplus1 hi Krock
11:29 Krock hi tenplus1
11:29 rdococ it's one of those things Lua can emulate
11:30 rdococ ooh, minetest-mods/hopper has a sorter
11:30 rdococ and a chute
11:30 rdococ no void hopper though? :c
11:30 tenplus1 sorting and chutes are handy, even the dropper :) but 1 node per second travel time
11:31 tenplus1 void hopper works so long as it's in loaded area
11:33 Calinou hi :)
11:33 Krock hi Calinou
11:34 tenplus1 hey Cal
11:36 rdococ one node per second?
11:36 tenplus1 yeah, facedeer did a really good mod, adheres to inventory calls etc.
11:36 tenplus1 but I kept my own lite and fast for ar eason
11:38 rdococ Is there a way to evenly distribute a stack of items among a large number of chests/furnaces/etc.?
11:39 rdococ I once tried to implement functionality like it by setting an artificial stack max
11:39 rdococ although I will probably have to wait for per-inventory stack max for that to happen
11:48 rdococ tenplus1: ^
11:48 tenplus1 ?
11:49 longerstaff13-m Hi
11:49 tenplus1 hi longer
11:49 longerstaff13-m How are you today tenplus1
11:49 tenplus1 not bad ta, you ?
11:49 longerstaff13-m Not bad either
11:49 tenplus1 rdococ: easiest way is separate stacks between chests feedng hoppers
11:49 rdococ I am yay
11:49 rdococ tenplus1: aww, I want automatic distribution :c
11:50 longerstaff13-m Hi rdococ
11:50 Fixer hey, little drums!
11:50 tenplus1 hi fixer
11:50 rdococ tenplus1: maybe a node that only lets one item through it at a time
11:51 shivajiva you'd need to keep a table of chest positions for a player to distribute evenly across them
11:51 tenplus1 hi shiva
11:51 rdococ shivajiva: I wonder how YKW does it then
11:51 shivajiva Hi tenplus :D
11:51 tenplus1 ykw has a higher tick rate
11:52 tenplus1 hoppers/sorters run at up to 100 ticks per second and hoppers move twice a second rate
11:52 tenplus1 so it can take and distribute easily per tick
11:54 longerstaff13-m Hi shiva :D
11:54 shivajiva hiya longer ;)
11:54 longerstaff13-m How are you today?
11:55 shivajiva I'm good thanks
11:55 longerstaff13-m Awesome
11:55 rdococ hi, we're talking about YKW
11:56 longerstaff13-m I'll leave you to it then :P
11:56 shivajiva it's sunny for a start and reasonably warm, always a good start
11:57 rdococ is it?
11:57 rdococ I was wondering what that big yellow ball in the sky was
11:57 longerstaff13-m It's a cloud
11:57 longerstaff13-m XD
11:57 longerstaff13-m An oddly coloured cloud
11:57 rdococ does it rain yay essence?
11:58 shivajiva any reason why maptools nodes and tools drop? I was thinking of a pr to stop them as they are admin items
11:58 longerstaff13-m It rains acid
11:58 longerstaff13-m rdococ: ^
11:58 rdococ Yay, acid!
11:59 Calinou shivajiva: I didn't implement anything to prevent dropping them
11:59 Calinou preventing dropping of maptools nodes/items by default sounds good to me, feel free to send a PR
11:59 shivajiva would you accept a pr that does that?
11:59 tenplus1 admin tools should be limited to priv checking if a normal player ever gets hold of them
11:59 shivajiva cool :)
11:59 Calinou (as long as it doesn't involve polling over all dropped items every so often:P)
12:00 tenplus1 drop = "",   <--- wont be dropped...
12:00 shivajiva utilising on_drop method for each item
12:00 Calinou tenplus1: that's only for nodes, not items
12:00 Calinou and that's when you dig them, not when you drop them by pressing Q
12:00 tenplus1 on_drop = function(itemstack, dropper, pos) return end,
12:00 shivajiva yep
12:02 * rdococ puts some maptools tools into a chest
12:03 shivajiva so what's the best method, overwrite item_drop() for a safe list to handle it or assign on_drop to all the nodes?
12:03 shivajiva I've tried both, can't decide which is more efficient
12:04 rdococ if that's minetest.item_drop you're overwriting I think assigning on_drop to all nodes and items would be better
12:04 tenplus1 yes
12:04 shivajiva yea me too
12:04 tenplus1 make it item specific, dont override actual function
12:04 rdococ although mutable functions are fun
12:07 Calinou do any of the Map Tools nodes/items/tools have their own on_drop function currently?
12:10 * Krock refreshes GH notifications in the hope something's happening
12:11 Calinou The F5 key is thrown into a world of hurt.
12:12 Krock shivajiva, item def on_drop should be more efficient because the other callback will be run for each and every drop
12:12 Krock s/other callback/other function/
12:31 Calinou https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/367305/why-does-my-stack-overflow-for-teams-url-start-with-a-c
12:31 Calinou those answers… :D
12:31 Calinou "can categorically confirm character "c" completes candidate criteria concerning coolness; case closed, casually"
12:32 tenplus1 lol
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12:45 tenplus1 hi CWz
12:45 CWz Ello
13:05 rdococ may the fifth
13:06 tenplus1 star trek day :D
13:06 Krock tenplus1, 180505 ? how come?
13:08 tenplus1 it's how many hairs kirk has on his head :D
13:21 xerox123 cinco de mayo
13:22 tenplus1 sinko wi dishes
13:23 * xerox123 checks sink, yup, there's dishes!
13:24 tenplus1 :P
13:30 * xerox123 is considering dual booting windows and xubuntu 18.04
13:32 tenplus1 what do you run on winblows ?
13:33 xerox123 everything
13:33 tenplus1 in that case it'll be a good thing :)
13:33 tenplus1 each on their own partitions or drives
13:34 xerox123 dualboot, and not standalone because the rest of my family use this PC too
13:35 tenplus1 if you had 2 drives you could main boot into win7 and hit F12 (or other boot key) during boot to switch to xubu
13:36 xerox123 only other drive I have is 3.5" and there's no room in my case for that
13:37 tenplus1 2 partitions it is then :DDDDD
13:39 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZFrsktX4AA8KxG.jpg:large
13:39 tenplus1 lol
13:39 rdococ cinnamon and mayonnaise
13:39 rdococ xerox123 is using Winderz
13:40 rdococ therefore this channel is unsafe
13:40 rdococ xerox123: cinnamon and mayonnaise
13:40 ircSparky NathanS21, You had trouble building/running minetest with support wuth mumble positional audio, right?
13:41 tenplus1 hi sparky
13:41 * BillyS slaps xerox123 for using windows
13:41 rubenwardy do you have an IPv6 IP for the server?
13:41 BillyS It's cursed. Don't use it
13:41 rubenwardy can you access it from the outside?
13:41 rubenwardy oh, IcyDiamond
13:41 IcyDiamond hey
13:41 * rdococ turns into an icy diamond
13:42 Krock rdococ, accessible from outside and IPv4 DNS record
13:42 Krock s/rdococo/rubnewardy/
13:42 rdococ 'rdococo' not found in sentence
13:42 Krock s/ne/en/
13:43 Krock oh boy autocorrect it pls
13:43 rdococ ew, anthropologist
13:43 rdococ oops, autocorrect, I mean "ew, autocorrect"
13:43 rdococ autocorrect hates anthropologists :O
13:44 Krock depends on your dictionary?
13:44 xerox123 hexchat says it's correct
13:44 xerox123 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anthropologists
13:45 rdococ Krock: deep ends on my dick sherry... okay, autocorrect is becoming disgusting
13:45 tenplus1 o.o
13:45 Krock apt-get purge rdococ
13:46 rdococ tenplus1: the row boat soup raise has been gone
13:46 tenplus1 sudo apt-get reinstall rdcoc
13:46 Krock Error: package "rdcoc" is not installed
13:46 tenplus1 sudo dkpg -i ./Downloads/rdoc.deb
13:47 rdococ so do act-get one inn stall anthropologist
13:47 tenplus1 brb
13:48 rdococ sudo apt-get uninstall autocorrect
13:48 BillyS sudo apt-get remove --purge rdococ
13:48 xerox123 E: Invalid operation uninstall
13:48 BillyS python3 -m "import rdococ"
13:48 rdococ sudo apt-get remove autocorrect
13:48 rubenwardy Krock: the DNS record doesn't matter
13:49 rdococ rubenwardy: did you check the DNA records?
13:49 rubenwardy if the machine has a IPv6 IP, then the server list will check it
13:51 rubenwardy so if the server has an IPv6 IP, then enable ipv6 support in MT
13:51 rdococ can you add IPv8 support
13:51 rubenwardy can you stop shitposting
13:51 rubenwardy Xd
13:53 longerstaff13 lol
13:53 Fixer TIME IS RUNNING OUT
13:53 xerox123 ipv4 address are also running out Id imagine
13:53 rdococ Fixer: shitpost soon before shitposting is deprecated in Universe 5.3.1
13:53 longerstaff13 I thought they alreaqdy had?
13:53 longerstaff13 already*
13:54 * BillyS posts rdococ
13:55 BillyS Good luck sleeping to whoever looked at that post.
13:55 BillyS (jk)
13:55 * rdococ posts BillyS
13:55 * rdococ watches as everyone dies
13:55 BillyS Never post corium.
13:56 rdococ BillyS is now known as SCP-5837
13:56 * tenplus1 is immortal
13:56 rdococ Yay blobs are SCP-5828-J, and tenplus1 is SCP-5482
14:00 * longerstaff13 feels sick
14:01 * rdococ turns into longerstaff13
14:01 * longerstaff13 watches as rdococ swells up into a fat 5 foot 10 inch guy :P
14:02 rdococ I don't know my height, haven't measured it in a long time
14:02 rdococ also, why are you using imperial measurements :c
14:02 longerstaff13 last time I measured I was 5 foot 10 anyway, that was about 7 months ago
14:02 rdococ metric is yay
14:03 Fixer make a mooove of this 32*C heatwave
14:04 rdococ 32 degrees?
14:04 * BillyS traps rdococ in scp 087
14:04 rdococ O_o
14:04 longerstaff13 it's not that warm where I live
14:04 longerstaff13 it's sunny yeah buyt
14:04 longerstaff13 but*
14:04 xerox123 good weather here to today
14:04 xerox123 too*
14:05 xerox123 going to the beach tomorrow :D
14:05 BillyS YaY
14:05 longerstaff13 uwot o.o
14:05 xerox123 25C, is this not good enough?
14:05 rdococ THERE'S A BIG YELLOW BALL IN THE SKY
14:05 BillyS xD
14:06 longerstaff13 I wonder if a cat made out of clouds will try to play with it
14:10 rdococ Yay!
14:10 * rdococ creates a cat out of clouds
14:11 * rdococ watches as the cat plays with the yellow ball, confusing people from all over the world
14:11 * rdococ watches as the cat gets super excited, and turns into a yay blob which glows as bright as the yellow ball
14:11 * rdococ then watches as the Earth begins to heat up more and more
14:11 rdococ Oopsâ„¢
14:13 * BillyS watches as rdococ gets kicked for off-topic spamâ„¢
14:14 * rdococ uses the SPAM for a sandwichâ„¢
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14:16 tenplus1 o/ paramat
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14:20 ircSparky quick question, if i return inside a for loop, will it end the loop, or just go to the next thing in the loop?
14:21 rubenwardy end the loop
14:21 rubenwardy return will exit the function
14:21 ircSparky ok
14:21 ircSparky what would i use just to go to the next thing in the loop?
14:21 ircSparky i guess i could just use if and else
14:22 rubenwardy yeah, you will have to
14:22 rubenwardy Lua doesn't have continue
14:23 paramat hi rdococ , playfulness is welcome here but in moderation ;) please could you restrain it a little? and please restrain the yay, the repetition is begining to get annoying
14:26 rdococ I think 5.2 adds a limited goto that can be used for continues but Minetest uses LuaJIT which I don't think supports it
14:26 Krock ircSparky, in some spots of the Lua builtin code there's "repeat ... until true" whereas "break" is used in "..."
14:27 Krock it's quite hacky but works the same way as continue if you put the entire inner loop into the repeat until block
14:27 rubenwardy ew
14:27 ircSparky yea ill just use if
14:27 longerstaff13-m Hi
14:27 rubenwardy I would not approve such code
14:27 ircSparky minetest.get_node(pos).name is how you get a node name right?
14:27 ircSparky hi longerstaff
14:28 longerstaff13-m Hi spark
14:28 Krock rubenwardy, that's why it was written before you did code quality checks :P
14:28 Krock ircSparky, one of the possibilities, yes.
14:29 ircSparky kay thanks
14:29 rdococ Lua just needs continuations already, it would be as simple as allowing goto to jump out of nested functions like they can nested blocks
14:29 rubenwardy sounds like a bad idea
14:30 rdococ there are several things that are now in Lua that are "almost continuations", and with minor adjustments would allow support for proper continuations. plus it goes along with the general theme of Lua as being flexible
14:30 rubenwardy just use a function and return from it
14:30 Krock hmm.. I think I'm wrong with the claim that it's also used in builtin. Either it's not "repeat until" or it was in a regular mod
14:30 rdococ rubenwardy: depending on how often that code is executed that could trash the GC
14:30 rdococ if I understand garbage collection correctly
14:30 rubenwardy LuaJIT ;)
14:30 rubenwardy and I don't think you do
14:31 rubenwardy you could use locals outside the function to avoid that
14:31 rdococ as a rule of thumb, I don't understand anything correctl
14:31 rdococ y
14:31 rdococ including how to type
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14:49 tenplus1 o/ aerozoic
14:50 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API update - attack functions working properly with line_of_sight, as does runaway function
14:50 aerozoic wazup tenplus1!
14:50 aerozoic are you saying i should pull some updates? XD
14:51 tenplus1 if you are using mobs redo api then yes :D
15:06 rdococ trying to think of a unique control flow construct nobody has thought of before
15:10 * tenplus1 thought of two before breakfast
15:15 ircSparky yay!
15:16 Fixer [food]
15:16 * tenplus1 has ordered foody
15:18 * rdococ steals tenplus1's food
15:19 ircSparky do node timers work correctly after a shutdown or crash
15:19 ircSparky ?
15:19 tenplus1 *shares*...   donner meat wrap with onioin and chili sauce
15:19 tenplus1 ircSparky: they should continue from where they left off
15:19 ircSparky ok cool
15:19 rubenwardy !mod [food]
15:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Food [food][food_basic] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2960
15:19 rubenwardy my first ever mod
15:19 rubenwardy second released
15:20 tenplus1 hi ruben... is a good mod
15:20 tenplus1 you started the food_ standard for mods
15:25 rdococ food_fattening: cola, McDaniels
15:26 xerox123_ Installing xubuntu yay
15:26 tenplus1 duo yays
15:27 xerox123_ Dell actually has step-by-step guide for dual booting on their website
15:27 rubenwardy !mod [food_sweet]
15:27 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Sweet Foods [food_sweet] support food 2.3 by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9039
15:28 rubenwardy proud of those textures
15:28 xerox123_ So I'm assuming it's supported
15:28 rubenwardy main food ones are terrible
15:28 tenplus1 i feel you
15:28 xerox123_ Noice
15:28 tenplus1 food testures are hard
15:30 xerox123_ Installo completo!
15:30 tenplus1 :P
15:30 rdococ Enstal competeno
15:30 xerox123_ So you get 10 seconds at boot to choose which OS
15:31 rdococ I get to choose between two Linux-based OSes, yay
15:31 rdococ xerox123_: If you press up or down arrow to change your selection then the 10 seconds is cancelled and you get as long as you want
15:31 * tenplus1 has w10 in vbox...
15:31 xerox123_ Yeah ik
15:31 rdococ tenplus1 is running spyware in a VM?
15:31 tenplus1 only when absolutely needed
15:32 rdococ why would you absolutely need malware?
15:32 tenplus1 itunes....  more spyware
15:32 xerox123_ rdococ didn't you use it to play Roblox?
15:32 xerox123_ :P
15:32 xerox123_ Roblox, virtual lego
15:32 xerox123_ â„¢
15:32 rdococ xerox123_: hush, I have left that placeâ„¢
15:33 xerox123_ Aaaaand I'm into the OS
15:33 rdococ xerox123_: Minetest is flexible enough, completely free, and open source, so it's better than CashGrabBlox
15:34 xerox123_ xfce4 is fully out of the box, time to get customising
15:35 xerox123_ fugly*
15:35 tenplus1 ehehehe, enjoy :) always fun customizing
15:36 xerox123_ I can just grab all my confusion from the windows partition too
15:36 rdococ In the event of a vampire apocalypse, only the garlic eater will survive
15:36 xerox123_ Configs*
15:36 rdococ xerox123_: have you heard of conlangs?
15:36 xerox123_ Does garlic bread count?
15:36 * tenplus1 burps garlic
15:36 rdococ they're spoken languages, but constructed by humans
15:36 aerozoic I wonder if it's possible to add keyword search to unified inventory's craft guide so, for example, a search for "food" could scan for any item that has the "minetest.item_eat" callback?
15:37 rdococ xerox123_: no, you need raw garlic
15:37 xerox123_ :(
15:37 rdococ I like eating garlic so I can keep the vampire boogeyman in the closet so I can harvest his energy
15:39 tenplus1 would be nice to search groups e.g.    food_   melty   stair
15:42 xerox123_ Setting up hexchat
15:42 * tenplus1 prefers pidgin
15:42 xerox123_ I've used hexchat for 3 years now :p
15:43 * rdococ eats the pigeon and cooks it in the hexchat
15:44 tenplus1 do use go into many channels ?
15:47 aerozoic pidgin is an IRC client? XD
15:47 rubenwardy xerox123_: gtk theme, icon set
15:47 rubenwardy done!
15:47 rubenwardy oh, also customise the panels
15:47 xerox123 hexchat all set up
15:47 tenplus1 yeah, Pidgin has many chat clients inside :) very easy to use
15:47 xerox123 moving the xfce panel to the bottom
15:47 rubenwardy hexchat sucks
15:47 rubenwardy :)
15:47 rubenwardy still better than pidgin
15:48 xerox123 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hexchat works for me soo
15:49 tenplus1 lol ruben, you ever used pidgin for irc
15:49 xerox123 I have ZNC deal with most of my client stuff (autocommands, identifying, etc.) so I can easily move to anything I want
15:54 tenplus1 any idea when 0.4.17 will be official
15:55 xerox123 after the heatdeath of the universe
15:55 tenplus1 aww, suppose it'll have to wait
15:58 Krock tenplus1, if we can do a dev meeting this evening, the release date will be discussed again
15:58 tenplus1 hope it goes to plan
16:00 xerox123 Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (1.88GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.6 GiB Total (6.0 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 258.5 GB / 973.5 GB (715.1 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 730] @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 28m 37s
16:01 tenplus1 xerox, go into terminal and type:    sudo mousepad /etc/sysctl.conf
16:01 tenplus1 add this line to the end and save:     vm.swappiness = 10
16:02 xerox123 ok
16:02 xerox123 done
16:03 tenplus1 kewl, reboot if ya like but that'll help virtual mem usage and keep things running smooth
16:09 longerstaff13-m Xerox moved to linux?
16:10 xerox123_ seems so
16:12 xerox123 longerstaff13-m: yes
16:12 xerox123 dualbooted
16:12 longerstaff13-m How is it for you?
16:12 xerox123 nothing new
16:12 longerstaff13-m Lol
16:12 xerox123 Ive used this in VMs for years now
16:13 IcyDiamond can someome help me figure out why my server isn't announced
16:13 tenplus1 have you ticked the announce server box ?
16:13 IcyDiamond it says that it announced but its not in the list
16:13 longerstaff13-m Have you tried giving it a few minutes to update?
16:13 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 11:31:59: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net
16:14 IcyDiamond time is 18:13 now btw
16:14 longerstaff13-m Ah
16:14 IcyDiamond so weird
16:15 xerox123 installing spotify
16:15 IcyDiamond ew
16:15 xerox123 IcyDiamond: is curl installed?
16:15 IcyDiamond #pirate for life
16:15 IcyDiamond xerox123: yes
16:16 longerstaff13-m Arr, pirate
16:17 IcyDiamond http://termbin.lunasqu.ee/03yl
16:18 xerox123 is the server_address set as an IP?
16:18 xerox123 or a domain
16:18 xerox123 for me setting it to an IP usually fixes the issue
16:19 IcyDiamond its a domain
16:19 IcyDiamond ill try ip
16:19 xerox123 what's the domain?
16:19 IcyDiamond icynet.eu
16:19 IcyDiamond ok yeah ip worked
16:19 IcyDiamond fair enough
16:19 xerox123 that AAAA record may have something to do with it
16:20 IcyDiamond maybe
16:20 xerox123 I can't remember the setting in mt.conf for ipv6
16:20 IcyDiamond not my fault it doesnt like ipv6
16:20 IcyDiamond :P
16:21 IcyDiamond damn, hudbars still can't hide the default hearts
16:21 xerox123 # ipv6_server = false
16:21 xerox123 "#    Enable/disable running an IPv6 server.  An IPv6 server may be restricted
16:21 xerox123 # to IPv6 clients, depending on system configuration."
16:23 IcyDiamond IcyDiamond [::ffff:91.129.101.221] joins game.
16:23 IcyDiamond funny
16:23 IcyDiamond it doesnt seem like it announces
16:23 IcyDiamond lets give it some time i guess
16:24 ircSparky I with villiages wouldnt crash my minetst every few seconds because memory usage is over 90 MB...
16:24 ircSparky wish
16:24 IcyDiamond lol
16:25 ircSparky I mean, I have 16 GB
16:26 Krock reported memory use is not the actual use. See 64-bit patches for LuaJIT (can't recall the issue out of my head)
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16:26 IcyDiamond who manages the server list
16:27 xerox123 sfan
16:27 Krock because he's also publishing the stats, sfan5 ^.
16:28 IcyDiamond could it be because my ip changed and it cached the domain or something?
16:28 rdococ decentralized server list?
16:29 xerox123 AFK, bbl
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16:39 tenplus1 wb icy
16:39 IcyDiamond ty
16:41 rdococ wicy
16:41 IcyDiamond lol
16:43 rdococ In Tinker's Construct I think there's stuff you have to build in the world rather than just craft, sort of like crafting but more interactive and I like the idea of that
16:43 rdococ IcyDiamond: Do the heatbricks do anything special in melterns?
16:44 IcyDiamond nah, just crafting component
16:44 IcyDiamond but ofc you can use them for building
16:44 IcyDiamond they look nice imo
16:44 IcyDiamond :P
16:48 rdococ I don't get why brick nodes have a top texture that is just more bricks
16:48 tenplus1 yeah, texture sides should match
16:49 rdococ Although heatbricks comes pretty close to matching, it doesn't match perfectly but it does better than some brick nodes I've seen
16:49 rdococ wait, nevermind, looked at another side
16:50 rdococ did Minetest actually crash that time? because sometimes it feels like I'm accidentally pressing a key combination that makes it exit
16:51 rdococ some letter + esc
16:57 IcyDiamond lol
16:57 IcyDiamond alt+f4 for free mese
17:00 xerox123 I got me some KFC
17:02 rdococ xerox123: it's too warm outside for free mese
17:02 rdococ I went outside, and it was very warm
17:02 tenplus1 free ice-cream maybe :D
17:03 rdococ Yay, I have ice cream
17:03 rdococ Oh, wait, it just melted
17:18 rdococ I'm sad that there's no three-notch phone yet
17:19 xerox123 how would one remove the window bar at the top of each window?
17:19 xerox123 esp on firefox
17:19 xerox123 it makes YT vids way smaller unless you're in full screen
17:20 Krock the tab bar or the window decorations?
17:21 tenplus1 press f11 to make browser full screen without bars
17:21 xerox123 I need to see how it looked on windows
17:21 xerox123 brb
17:21 Krock F11 is complete FF fullscreen. I'm not sure if that's wanted
17:22 tenplus1 there shoudl be an option in window settings, full screen disables decoration
17:22 rubenwardy IcyDiamond: I told you
17:22 rubenwardy You need to enable ipv6 support
17:26 xerox123 tenplus1: so on windows the tab row and close, maximise and minimise are on the same row
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17:28 tenplus1 xerox123 go into xfce settings and windows you can tailor settings :D
17:30 xerox123 hm, hide window titles when maximised
17:32 tenplus1 yup, there somewhere :D
17:32 xerox123 but then I can't close a window :P (unless I go to the panel at the bottom)
17:34 tenplus1 right click panel and select close
17:34 tenplus1 ur unmaximise
17:34 tenplus1 *or
17:35 tenplus1 or ctrl + Q closes a window
17:35 tenplus1 I remove all buttons except the close for windows :) and use panel to control max/min :P
17:38 * tenplus1 has charged 2x AA batteries with the power of the sun... am gonna sell it back to the grid
17:42 xerox123 cool
17:43 tenplus1 :P
18:07 Megaf Patches that fail or were about to fail in my tube. https://i.imgur.com/zZ0U7td.jpg Quite nice patern tho
18:07 Megaf s/fail/failed
18:08 tenplus1 hi Megaf, whassat
18:08 Megaf latest work I've done on my bike https://imgur.com/a/TJkmKuS
18:08 Megaf cleaning of the drivetrain, general lube, fixing the tubes...
18:08 tenplus1 akk bike wheel
18:08 * tenplus1 remembers to inflate his bike wheels
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18:11 tenplus1 o/ sniper
18:22 xerox123 um, minetest opens with the menus looking really big http://i.imgur.com/S9WRmGs.png
18:22 tenplus1 lol, gotta tailor gui_scale
18:26 rdococ xerox123: lol
18:27 tenplus1 I wonder what the gui_scale would be on an 8k monitor :DDDDD
18:27 rdococ I don't even have a 2k monitor
18:27 rdococ unless my tablet counts, I guess
18:27 tenplus1 HD here, that's me :D
18:27 tenplus1 cant even justify using 4k
18:28 rdococ my laptop has a screen resolution of 1366x768, so if I understand the xxxp system correctly that would be slightly more than 720p
18:28 rdococ so I don't even have HD
18:28 tenplus1 half HD... still good ;D
18:28 rdococ true, I guess
18:29 rdococ in the past I had to set undersampling to 2 to play Minetest at an acceptable framerate, making it slightly more than 360p
18:29 rdococ well, the fact that it isn't fullscreen decreases it slightly
18:30 Fixer it is SD quality aka Shitty & Disgusting
18:30 rdococ suit yourself but I don't mind 720p
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18:30 Krock Fixer, watch Kung Fury in 144p
18:31 tenplus1 ehehehe
18:31 rdococ I think I once hooked my laptop up to a monitor, but the monitor was 4:3
18:31 Fixer i watched porn in 320x240
18:31 * tenplus1 has 4:3 monitr :D
18:31 Fixer what kind of P is this?
18:31 tenplus1 great movie... so  cheesy
18:31 rdococ 16:10 is the best compromise aspect ratio
18:31 Fixer 240p I guess
18:31 rdococ 15:10 is also good
18:31 Fixer 16:9 is shit
18:31 Krock Fixer, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Vector_Video_Standards8.svg
18:32 rdococ Fixer: hey, I have a 16:9 laptop screen
18:32 rdococ Actually, my screen is slightly wider than 16:9
18:32 Fixer rdococ: now find 4:3 laptop and your mind will be blown, huge amount of screen
18:32 Krock it's not listed as a blue box, so I think it's a different standard/format
18:33 Fixer 16:9 is shit for loosers watching in toilet in the darkness their 700mb avi RIP
18:33 rdococ Fixer: based on the size of this 16:9 laptop I think a 4:3 laptop would just be (a) smaller or (b) too large to sit on my bedroom table
18:33 Fixer Krock: QVGA it seems
18:33 rdococ Fixer: look, I appreciate you bashing Windows users but not 16:9 users
18:33 rdococ :P
18:33 Fixer Krock: 320x240 porn on 200 kbit/sec, imagine this
18:34 Fixer running on 270 MHz CPU
18:34 rdococ Fixer: I just use my imagination ;)
18:34 rdococ unfortunately my imagination keeps trying to imagine yay blobs
18:34 Fixer blurry as minetest rendering
18:34 Krock Fixer, that's like 4  56 kbit/s modems in parallel. fast speed.
18:35 Fixer it was predownloaded and preconverted
18:35 Krock I believe VHS was better quality back then :P
18:35 Fixer time when you benchmarked cpu speed in TCPMP by running porn and 320 kbit mp3s
18:36 Fixer screen was like 3.5" or smth
18:37 Fixer also was compromise with bitrait
18:37 Fixer rate*
18:37 Fixer too high was not rendered in 24fps
18:37 Fixer with that tearing stuff
18:37 Fixer tearing on porn is not good
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18:39 Fixer god damn audio was awful back then
18:39 tenplus1 8khz
18:39 tenplus1 mono
18:39 Fixer had problems finding good audioplayer for Win PPC 2003
18:40 Fixer it handled 320stereo, but quality was weird
18:51 xerox123 agh, having to tune every little settings
18:52 tenplus1 thankfully you only need to do it once :D
18:53 xerox123 sound is at 100% but it's still silent
18:53 xerox123 near silent*
18:53 tenplus1 go into terminal and type:   alsamixer
18:53 tenplus1 check all channels are up
18:53 tenplus1 failing that check pavucontrol (aidio manager) and do same
18:56 xerox123 nodes also seem a little blury when I look at the texture upclose
18:57 tenplus1 turn off antialiasing and shaders maybe
18:57 tenplus1 I always set Texturing to "No Filter" and "No Mipmap" and antialiasing to "None"
19:04 tenplus1 also if using xfce, you could disable compositing on wm to give a speed boost
19:11 xerox123 bbl
19:11 tenplus1 okie
19:26 rdococ Delicious swappiness
19:26 tenplus1 10 is a good number to use :P
19:27 rdococ I think I used 20
19:27 rdococ didn't someone here use 0? what happens if you go OOM?
19:28 rubenwardy swap is such a misfeature
19:28 rubenwardy would rather it just kill processes
19:28 tenplus1 my other desktop has no swap file so swappiness is 0
19:28 tenplus1 never had issue with it :D
19:28 rubenwardy I've been writing high memory programs recently
19:28 rdococ rubenwardy: Does it prioritize the death of certain processes over others?
19:28 rubenwardy 4.7GB to render a scene
19:29 rubenwardy it does, but it tends to let it go into swap
19:29 rdococ E.G. you wouldn't want to accidentally kill the process with that unsaved essay you just finished without saving once for some reason
19:29 rubenwardy google drive
19:29 rdococ Ah.
19:29 tenplus1 erk
19:29 rubenwardy autosaved ;)
19:29 rdococ Ew, google drive
19:29 rdococ rubenwardy loves sharing all of his private documents with Google ;)
19:29 rubenwardy although for an essay I wouldn't use Google drive
19:30 rubenwardy I'd use sharelatex
19:30 * tenplus1 quickly hacks into google drive and reads rubenwardy's stuff
19:30 rdococ Hope you don't keep porn on google drive ;)
19:30 rubenwardy because LaTeX is great
19:30 rubenwardy why would I
19:30 rdococ idk, I don't even watch porn
19:31 rubenwardy the quality of conversation has decreased massively in the last few lines
19:31 tenplus1 quality of conversation in porn has decreased over the lasst 20 years :D
19:31 rdococ Let's discuss how to increase the quality of discussion: metadiscussion
19:31 Shara It may be improved by banning yays.
19:31 rubenwardy oh no
19:31 rubenwardy the horror
19:32 Shara People would need to think of other words to use again!!
19:32 rdococ Shara: Yays weren't involved this time, porn was
19:32 tenplus1 it's like 1982 all over again
19:32 Shara I blame the yays though.
19:32 Shara They have undermined everything.
19:32 rdococ In fact, you were the first person to say yay in quite a bit
19:32 rdococ You are secretly one with the yays
19:32 Shara Just because you don't see them...
19:32 rubenwardy they may take our lives
19:32 rubenwardy they may take our freedom
19:32 rdococ They may take our lines
19:32 rubenwardy but they will never take our yays!
19:33 rdococ Unicorns are said to yay, but they actually yeigh
19:33 Shara This... is why I had to eat the unicorn.
19:33 Shara The things I do for you all.
19:33 Shara Really.
19:33 rdococ Shara: Unicorns don't yay, they yeigh. You didn't stop the yays by eating the unicorn, you just killed a magical creature.
19:34 rdococ Again, you're secretly pretending to fail to stop the yays because you don't want to admit to yourself that you are one with the yays. You started this discussion about yays and you ate a unicorn pretending to think that they yay as opposed to yeigh. The evidence is clear.
19:34 Shara rdococ: I am reclassify you from "yay" to "headache"
19:35 Shara reclassifying*
19:35 tenplus1 xanadu updated with new mob api
19:35 rdococ What does the new mob API do?
19:35 * xerox123 reappears
19:36 * rdococ watches as xerox123 takes rubenwardy's yays
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19:37 tenplus1 mob/npc attacks work better :) they use line of sight, chickens no longer runaway from owners
19:37 tenplus1 hi fussel
19:37 IhrFussel Is the craft output slot in UI c++ or pure lua? I mean is it possible to modify the amount to craft at once?
19:38 tenplus1 you can re-register the recipe and have it give more
19:38 tenplus1 will replace curernt one
19:38 rdococ I wonder if CSM will eventually extend to include more complex crafting and node prediction
19:39 IhrFussel tenplus1, hi =) No I mean a player asked me if it's possible to make it so that for example shift clicking the output slot crafts 10 instead of just 1 while also taking more materials
19:39 tenplus1 ohh, that's in engine
19:39 tenplus1 doesnt middle click (scroll wheel) do 10 ?
19:40 IhrFussel tenplus1,  that seems to work kinda...thanks
19:40 tenplus1 :PP
19:46 IhrFussel Also another player asks if I could add trees with blue/red/yellow leaves and I wonder how difficult it would be...in theiry I could simply copy the default leaves, change the pixel color and register it as yet another tree type I guess?
19:47 Shara You'd need to make a schematic probably
19:49 tenplus1 you can use default leaves with  [color: flag
19:50 IhrFussel Shara, don't I only need that if I want my tree to be unique? Couldn't I just reuse an existing one?
19:51 Shara Fussel, but the node is part of the schematic?
19:51 Shara So if you make a new leaves node, how will you make that node show up instead of the one the schematic actually has?
19:52 IhrFussel So I would have to replace all node names in the file...
19:52 tenplus1 schematic placement has {replacement = {"node1", "node2"}
19:52 Shara It does? Nice then.
19:52 tenplus1 caan use existing tree schem but replace leaves with new ones
19:53 Shara Maybe I can use that for something then :)
19:58 rdococ I'm working on a conlang.
19:59 rdococ Here's an outdated phonology for it: https://i.imgur.com/aLWcbeT.png (outdated as I've made changes since then)
20:00 paramat yes use 'replacements'
20:00 paramat although, i wonder if that works during mapgen ..
20:00 paramat not sure
20:01 paramat might just be for 'place schematic'
20:01 tenplus1 think I've used them during mapgen to replace stone in lava pits to desertstone
20:03 paramat docs will say
20:08 xerox123 idk if I want to keep the dualboot
20:09 tenplus1 problems xerox?
20:11 xerox123 I guess Ill give it a couple days
20:12 xerox123 also, the stats are'nt updating...
20:16 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&amp;t=20064
20:17 Krock ^ belongs into a MTG issue
20:18 Shara Krock: why?
20:22 Krock Shara, because I've read the title and the 2nd half of his message only for some reason. Never mind.
20:22 Shara :D
20:27 tenplus1 nite folks
20:27 tenplus1 left #minetest-hub
20:30 xerox123 fixed the stats, phew! the universe is now back to the natural order
20:33 rdococ What xerox123 did not know is that the universe's natural state is not order, but chaos.
20:43 Krock Game idea, anyone? https://i.redd.it/2zxdgzf2k1w01.png
20:44 Krock plunder the chests in the middle and slaughter everyone else to survive
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20:58 aerozoic IhrFussel, unified_inventory_plus mod adds an handy "All" button that crafts the maximum possible with what's in the grid.
20:58 aerozoic UI plus is an add on mod, it enhances UI
21:10 Krock !mod unified_inventory_plus
21:11 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything.
21:36 Megaf I need 56.96 Euro, anyone feeling like donating me some money?
21:55 Megaf !server Megaf
21:55 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms
22:09 IhrFussel !server IFS
22:09 MinetestBot IhrFussel: [2018] IFS (IhrFussel's Server) | 94.16.121.151:25000 | Clients: 15/45, 12/17 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms
22:09 IhrFussel Almost same ping
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22:13 IhrFussel rubenwardy, got a link to your server score script?
22:13 IhrFussel Or was it someone else who made it...
22:13 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/6d6882db0cbe1b5b24be
22:17 IhrFussel Thanks...and it's 100% up-to-date with the actual server list calculation?
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22:30 rdococ I just heard a cat make an angry noise and a dog bark at it
22:30 rdococ Outside
22:31 IhrFussel "months of game_time (max 8): +6.835858024691358" << my game time is @ 2 years ... why is it only 6.8 points?
22:32 IhrFussel Does it still go higher @ 3 years etc??
22:33 rubenwardy capped
22:33 rubenwardy max 8 -> max 7 months
22:33 IhrFussel But why such a weird number at cap?
22:33 sfan5 no he's right it should be 8
22:34 rubenwardy *8
22:35 IhrFussel Other servers indeed show +8 ... why is it different with mine?
22:37 sfan5 rubenwardy: found a bug in your script, compare line 78 and 80
22:37 IhrFussel Oh oops...wait I think I misread the output...I looked at the next game time of the next server..ok it says +8
22:38 IhrFussel The format of v option enabled is a bit weird...it first lists the several flags & scores and at the end you see like 4) IFS....[total score]
22:44 IhrFussel "highly loaded server" can decrease the score by 28 points???
22:48 IhrFussel 5 clients: +5
22:48 IhrFussel 7 guests / 8:  +0.875 << how does that work lol

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