Time Nick Message 07:26 IcyDiamond why isn't my server announced to the server list even though i enabled it 07:27 Krock IcyDiamond, because you've got to wait like 2 minutes 07:28 IcyDiamond this server has been up for like a month 07:28 IcyDiamond lol 07:28 Krock or at least until the next announce cycle of your server 07:28 Krock oh well.. what's the address? 07:28 IcyDiamond icynet.eu 07:28 Krock !up icynet.eu 07:28 MinetestBot icynet.eu:30000 is up (10ms) 07:29 Krock IcyDiamond, minetestserver --version lists CURL=1 and the announce reports status code 200? 07:29 IcyDiamond eh imma take it down for a sec and compile master 07:29 Krock if it returns the teapot status code then your server is banned for some reason 07:30 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 09:30:17: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net 07:30 IcyDiamond aaand thats it 07:30 IcyDiamond when i kill the server i get 07:30 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 09:30:42: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500) 07:32 Krock that's the initial announce when starting the server. if you only get 500 on kill/exit then it's ok too 07:34 Krock *when starting the server and all 5 minutes 07:35 Krock ^ never mind. ignore that. it only announces fully on startup, so I think the master server didn't notice that 07:36 IcyDiamond i love my scripts, i just do ./build.sh && ./update-mods.py and im all up to date 07:36 IcyDiamond :D 07:37 Krock but those won't be executed in parallel, which would optimize the duration 07:37 IcyDiamond meh 07:37 IcyDiamond no big deal 07:37 IcyDiamond nobody plays on my server anyway 07:37 IcyDiamond :P 07:37 Krock yes, because it's not shown 07:38 IcyDiamond XD 08:40 IcyDiamond it still is not announced 10:29 rdococ I said this earlier but nobody seems to have noticed: Snap! ( https://snap.berkeley.edu/ ) is an interesting programming language. It's basically a mixture of Scratch and Scheme, introducing concepts such as first-class functions and first-class continuations into a visual drag-and-drop programming language. 10:34 Krock scratch 2.0 10:35 rdococ Scratch 2.0 has procedures, but they're not first class, you can't return values with them, and you have no first-class anything else (although there is sprite cloning now). 10:35 xerox123_ i remember using scratch in primary school :D 10:35 rdococ I wish my school would hurry up and use Scratch to teach programming so I can be amused slightly while I pretend to work 10:37 xerox123_ we dont do IT as our school doesnt have any qualified teachers 10:38 xerox123_ for IT ^ 10:38 xerox123_ a shame really :/ 10:38 Shara My school had... a grumpy/shouty IT teacher :) 10:39 Shara I very much doubt he was qualified either 10:39 Shara The most difficult thing they taught us was how to add two cells in a spreadsheet... 10:39 lumberJ we had mavis beacon 10:40 Shara I think they seemed to get excited about how to change text colour in a word processor once as well 10:42 Shara Fairly sure this works without issues now if anyone feels like testing and having apple trees that regrow their apples: https://github.com/Ezhh/endless_apples 10:43 rdococ My Little Node: Active Block Modifiers are laggy™ 10:43 Shara That's why this doesn't use them :P 10:44 xerox123 what can I do about this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mJkQBjmY29/ 10:45 xerox123 could it possibly be oom_killer? 10:45 xerox123 server does that at least 5 times a day Ive noticed 10:45 Shara OOM issues usually give an OOM error, from my experience 10:46 xerox123 but I have plenty of memory free. 10:46 Krock xerox123, because it's allocated and freed in an instant 10:47 Krock short but very large RAM usage 10:47 xerox123 hm, let me see if oom logs it's activity 10:48 xerox123 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/scwdFJxKzK/ 10:48 Shara anything in MT debug? 10:51 xerox123 nothing in debug.txt 10:51 longerstaff13-m Morning 10:51 xerox123 morning 10:51 longerstaff13-m Well... Nearly afternoon 10:51 Shara Hi longerstaff13 10:51 longerstaff13-m Hi Shara 10:53 xerox123 this makes sense: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SdpQPtnHKp/ 11:00 tenplus1 hi folks 11:01 Shara Hi ten 11:01 rdococ Life is yay 11:01 rdococ and the greeting ninja has joined us 11:01 tenplus1 hi Shara :) 11:01 tenplus1 yay rdococ 11:02 Shara tenplus1: https://github.com/Ezhh/endless_apples 11:02 Shara Should work fine now I think 11:03 tenplus1 kewlio :) 11:03 tenplus1 endless apples indeed 11:05 tenplus1 did you add the tree check ? 11:05 Shara Tree check? 11:05 tenplus1 if someone cuts the whole tree down and takes all apples, do they regrow in mid air ? 11:05 Shara Oh, no, haven't done that 11:05 tenplus1 :P 11:06 Shara Hmm 11:06 xerox123 floating apples are the tastiest 11:06 tenplus1 minetest.find_node_near(pos, 1, {"group:tree"}) before making apple appear 11:06 tenplus1 hi xerox :) 11:06 xerox123 hello 11:06 Shara Yea, I can see how to check 11:06 rdococ minetest.register_on_yay() 11:06 Shara Just wondering if that's the best way 11:07 Shara rdococ: can't do that. With you around yaying all the time, it would generate too much lag 11:07 tenplus1 easiest/quickest 11:07 Shara sorry :P 11:07 tenplus1 endless loop... minetest.register_on_yay() do_yay end 11:07 xerox123 there's a yay to start minetest on a specific PID right? 11:08 rdococ I cam simulate it with minetest.register_on_chat_message, then checking to see if the message includes a 'yay' 11:08 xerox123 if someone says yay then all the trees in the vicinity grow yayapples 11:08 tenplus1 hahaha, that would be funny 11:09 * Shara sense some mod writing in rdococ's future 11:09 tenplus1 good intentions/chat appear in the world... bad intentions/chat reverse it 11:09 rdococ Yayapples make you say yay, causing the trees that are in your vicinity when you eat them to turn into yayapples too 11:09 rdococ It's how the yayapples spread and thrive 11:10 * tenplus1 wonders if he should add silkworms 11:10 xerox123 how do I start a server instance on a certain PID? 11:10 xerox123 not seeing anything in minetestserver --help 11:10 tenplus1 so you can kill it easily ? 11:11 rdococ tenplus1: modify the bones mod so that when the player first dies, you see a "player flesh" node but as bacteria decompose it, it slowly becomes a "bones" node 11:11 xerox123 tenplus1: so I can OOM exempt it 11:11 tenplus1 oof, that would creep to many players out :P 11:11 rdococ tenplus1: if you're good at meshing you could make the bones look realistic 11:12 rdococ and maybe if someone tries to dig a player flesh node while it's in the midst of decomposing it would have a chance to revive as a ZAMBIE 11:12 rdococ not just a zombie, a ZAMBIE which knows how to teleport, creep you out and follow you for exactly 3.1415 days of ingame time 11:12 tenplus1 wait, didnt someone add a skeleton node for player bones already ?!?! 11:13 rdococ tenplus1: also, you would be able to craft a magical refrigerator that can turn rotten flesh into fresh flesh 11:13 tenplus1 lol 11:14 rdococ tenplus1: then you can do necromancy on the fresh flesh to revive players fully as themselves 11:14 tenplus1 or as npc who will do your bidding :D 11:14 rdococ Ooh, minetest permadeath mod + a mod allowing you to revive your friends, unbanning them 11:15 rdococ or maybe every time you die, a piece of your soul is chipped away . . . 11:15 tenplus1 you lose it completely and you are banned 11:15 rdococ but the grim reaper lost your paperwork and doesn't know what to do with your soul 11:15 rdococ so you end up in someone else's body . . . 11:16 tenplus1 Creatures mod did something similar... you float around as a ghost to start game, then inhabit animals and finally human npcs 11:16 rdococ A "semi-permadeath" mod which spawns you randomly when you join, and again when you respawn, preventing you from setting your spawn or home point, would be interesting 11:17 rdococ tenplus1: SCP-5395: the ghost that inhabits open-source animals made out of cubes 11:17 tenplus1 heh 11:17 rdococ Ooh, it'd be fun to implement SCPs into the game 11:18 rdococ SCP-009 would be an ice block that would convert other watery nodes (water, ice) into itself 11:18 rdococ And it would slowly kill you if you touch it 11:19 tenplus1 mob souls... hrm 11:21 rdococ that would █████ ███ ██████ ████ 11:22 rdococ a system of mob and player souls would be cool 11:23 rdococ you could have them be bright, shining lights that would be able to do stuff with stuff 11:24 tenplus1 capture in a soul vial for spells n such 11:24 rdococ Hm, I wonder what power they should have 11:25 xerox123 added an OOM exempt, hopefully it doesnt kill again 11:26 rdococ why is it OOM? 11:26 tenplus1 out of memory 11:26 rdococ no, I meant why, not what does it mean 11:26 tenplus1 or "out of mushrooms" if you work in a resto 11:27 rdococ hm, looks like the original hooper mod has two forks 11:27 rdococ s/hooper/hopper/ 11:27 rdococ both called hopper, so yay for problems with that 11:28 tenplus1 original hopper mod was passed onto me by jordanbainz and I continued adding features 11:28 tenplus1 facedeer forked it 11:28 Krock oof! OOM due OOP 11:28 Krock s/oof/OOF/ 11:29 rdococ object oriented programming 11:29 tenplus1 hi Krock 11:29 Krock hi tenplus1 11:29 rdococ it's one of those things Lua can emulate 11:30 rdococ ooh, minetest-mods/hopper has a sorter 11:30 rdococ and a chute 11:30 rdococ no void hopper though? :c 11:30 tenplus1 sorting and chutes are handy, even the dropper :) but 1 node per second travel time 11:31 tenplus1 void hopper works so long as it's in loaded area 11:33 Calinou hi :) 11:33 Krock hi Calinou 11:34 tenplus1 hey Cal 11:36 rdococ one node per second? 11:36 tenplus1 yeah, facedeer did a really good mod, adheres to inventory calls etc. 11:36 tenplus1 but I kept my own lite and fast for ar eason 11:38 rdococ Is there a way to evenly distribute a stack of items among a large number of chests/furnaces/etc.? 11:39 rdococ I once tried to implement functionality like it by setting an artificial stack max 11:39 rdococ although I will probably have to wait for per-inventory stack max for that to happen 11:48 rdococ tenplus1: ^ 11:48 tenplus1 ? 11:49 longerstaff13-m Hi 11:49 tenplus1 hi longer 11:49 longerstaff13-m How are you today tenplus1 11:49 tenplus1 not bad ta, you ? 11:49 longerstaff13-m Not bad either 11:49 tenplus1 rdococ: easiest way is separate stacks between chests feedng hoppers 11:49 rdococ I am yay 11:49 rdococ tenplus1: aww, I want automatic distribution :c 11:50 longerstaff13-m Hi rdococ 11:50 Fixer hey, little drums! 11:50 tenplus1 hi fixer 11:50 rdococ tenplus1: maybe a node that only lets one item through it at a time 11:51 shivajiva you'd need to keep a table of chest positions for a player to distribute evenly across them 11:51 tenplus1 hi shiva 11:51 rdococ shivajiva: I wonder how YKW does it then 11:51 shivajiva Hi tenplus :D 11:51 tenplus1 ykw has a higher tick rate 11:52 tenplus1 hoppers/sorters run at up to 100 ticks per second and hoppers move twice a second rate 11:52 tenplus1 so it can take and distribute easily per tick 11:54 longerstaff13-m Hi shiva :D 11:54 shivajiva hiya longer ;) 11:54 longerstaff13-m How are you today? 11:55 shivajiva I'm good thanks 11:55 longerstaff13-m Awesome 11:55 rdococ hi, we're talking about YKW 11:56 longerstaff13-m I'll leave you to it then :P 11:56 shivajiva it's sunny for a start and reasonably warm, always a good start 11:57 rdococ is it? 11:57 rdococ I was wondering what that big yellow ball in the sky was 11:57 longerstaff13-m It's a cloud 11:57 longerstaff13-m XD 11:57 longerstaff13-m An oddly coloured cloud 11:57 rdococ does it rain yay essence? 11:58 shivajiva any reason why maptools nodes and tools drop? I was thinking of a pr to stop them as they are admin items 11:58 longerstaff13-m It rains acid 11:58 longerstaff13-m rdococ: ^ 11:58 rdococ Yay, acid! 11:59 Calinou shivajiva: I didn't implement anything to prevent dropping them 11:59 Calinou preventing dropping of maptools nodes/items by default sounds good to me, feel free to send a PR 11:59 shivajiva would you accept a pr that does that? 11:59 tenplus1 admin tools should be limited to priv checking if a normal player ever gets hold of them 11:59 shivajiva cool :) 11:59 Calinou (as long as it doesn't involve polling over all dropped items every so often:P) 12:00 tenplus1 drop = "", <--- wont be dropped... 12:00 shivajiva utilising on_drop method for each item 12:00 Calinou tenplus1: that's only for nodes, not items 12:00 Calinou and that's when you dig them, not when you drop them by pressing Q 12:00 tenplus1 on_drop = function(itemstack, dropper, pos) return end, 12:00 shivajiva yep 12:02 * rdococ puts some maptools tools into a chest 12:03 shivajiva so what's the best method, overwrite item_drop() for a safe list to handle it or assign on_drop to all the nodes? 12:03 shivajiva I've tried both, can't decide which is more efficient 12:04 rdococ if that's minetest.item_drop you're overwriting I think assigning on_drop to all nodes and items would be better 12:04 tenplus1 yes 12:04 shivajiva yea me too 12:04 tenplus1 make it item specific, dont override actual function 12:04 rdococ although mutable functions are fun 12:07 Calinou do any of the Map Tools nodes/items/tools have their own on_drop function currently? 12:10 * Krock refreshes GH notifications in the hope something's happening 12:11 Calinou The F5 key is thrown into a world of hurt. 12:12 Krock shivajiva, item def on_drop should be more efficient because the other callback will be run for each and every drop 12:12 Krock s/other callback/other function/ 12:31 Calinou https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/367305/why-does-my-stack-overflow-for-teams-url-start-with-a-c 12:31 Calinou those answers… :D 12:31 Calinou "can categorically confirm character "c" completes candidate criteria concerning coolness; case closed, casually" 12:32 tenplus1 lol 12:45 tenplus1 hi CWz 12:45 CWz Ello 13:05 rdococ may the fifth 13:06 tenplus1 star trek day :D 13:06 Krock tenplus1, 180505 ? how come? 13:08 tenplus1 it's how many hairs kirk has on his head :D 13:21 xerox123 cinco de mayo 13:22 tenplus1 sinko wi dishes 13:23 * xerox123 checks sink, yup, there's dishes! 13:24 tenplus1 :P 13:30 * xerox123 is considering dual booting windows and xubuntu 18.04 13:32 tenplus1 what do you run on winblows ? 13:33 xerox123 everything 13:33 tenplus1 in that case it'll be a good thing :) 13:33 tenplus1 each on their own partitions or drives 13:34 xerox123 dualboot, and not standalone because the rest of my family use this PC too 13:35 tenplus1 if you had 2 drives you could main boot into win7 and hit F12 (or other boot key) during boot to switch to xubu 13:36 xerox123 only other drive I have is 3.5" and there's no room in my case for that 13:37 tenplus1 2 partitions it is then :DDDDD 13:39 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZFrsktX4AA8KxG.jpg:large 13:39 tenplus1 lol 13:39 rdococ cinnamon and mayonnaise 13:39 rdococ xerox123 is using Winderz 13:40 rdococ therefore this channel is unsafe 13:40 rdococ xerox123: cinnamon and mayonnaise 13:40 ircSparky NathanS21, You had trouble building/running minetest with support wuth mumble positional audio, right? 13:41 tenplus1 hi sparky 13:41 * BillyS slaps xerox123 for using windows 13:41 rubenwardy do you have an IPv6 IP for the server? 13:41 BillyS It's cursed. Don't use it 13:41 rubenwardy can you access it from the outside? 13:41 rubenwardy oh, IcyDiamond 13:41 IcyDiamond hey 13:41 * rdococ turns into an icy diamond 13:42 Krock rdococ, accessible from outside and IPv4 DNS record 13:42 Krock s/rdococo/rubnewardy/ 13:42 rdococ 'rdococo' not found in sentence 13:42 Krock s/ne/en/ 13:43 Krock oh boy autocorrect it pls 13:43 rdococ ew, anthropologist 13:43 rdococ oops, autocorrect, I mean "ew, autocorrect" 13:43 rdococ autocorrect hates anthropologists :O 13:44 Krock depends on your dictionary? 13:44 xerox123 hexchat says it's correct 13:44 xerox123 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anthropologists 13:45 rdococ Krock: deep ends on my dick sherry... okay, autocorrect is becoming disgusting 13:45 tenplus1 o.o 13:45 Krock apt-get purge rdococ 13:46 rdococ tenplus1: the row boat soup raise has been gone 13:46 tenplus1 sudo apt-get reinstall rdcoc 13:46 Krock Error: package "rdcoc" is not installed 13:46 tenplus1 sudo dkpg -i ./Downloads/rdoc.deb 13:47 rdococ so do act-get one inn stall anthropologist 13:47 tenplus1 brb 13:48 rdococ sudo apt-get uninstall autocorrect 13:48 BillyS sudo apt-get remove --purge rdococ 13:48 xerox123 E: Invalid operation uninstall 13:48 BillyS python3 -m "import rdococ" 13:48 rdococ sudo apt-get remove autocorrect 13:48 rubenwardy Krock: the DNS record doesn't matter 13:49 rdococ rubenwardy: did you check the DNA records? 13:49 rubenwardy if the machine has a IPv6 IP, then the server list will check it 13:51 rubenwardy so if the server has an IPv6 IP, then enable ipv6 support in MT 13:51 rdococ can you add IPv8 support 13:51 rubenwardy can you stop shitposting 13:51 rubenwardy Xd 13:53 longerstaff13 lol 13:53 Fixer TIME IS RUNNING OUT 13:53 xerox123 ipv4 address are also running out Id imagine 13:53 rdococ Fixer: shitpost soon before shitposting is deprecated in Universe 5.3.1 13:53 longerstaff13 I thought they alreaqdy had? 13:53 longerstaff13 already* 13:54 * BillyS posts rdococ 13:55 BillyS Good luck sleeping to whoever looked at that post. 13:55 BillyS (jk) 13:55 * rdococ posts BillyS 13:55 * rdococ watches as everyone dies 13:55 BillyS Never post corium. 13:56 rdococ BillyS is now known as SCP-5837 13:56 * tenplus1 is immortal 13:56 rdococ Yay blobs are SCP-5828-J, and tenplus1 is SCP-5482 14:00 * longerstaff13 feels sick 14:01 * rdococ turns into longerstaff13 14:01 * longerstaff13 watches as rdococ swells up into a fat 5 foot 10 inch guy :P 14:02 rdococ I don't know my height, haven't measured it in a long time 14:02 rdococ also, why are you using imperial measurements :c 14:02 longerstaff13 last time I measured I was 5 foot 10 anyway, that was about 7 months ago 14:02 rdococ metric is yay 14:03 Fixer make a mooove of this 32*C heatwave 14:04 rdococ 32 degrees? 14:04 * BillyS traps rdococ in scp 087 14:04 rdococ O_o 14:04 longerstaff13 it's not that warm where I live 14:04 longerstaff13 it's sunny yeah buyt 14:04 longerstaff13 but* 14:04 xerox123 good weather here to today 14:04 xerox123 too* 14:05 xerox123 going to the beach tomorrow :D 14:05 BillyS YaY 14:05 longerstaff13 uwot o.o 14:05 xerox123 25C, is this not good enough? 14:05 rdococ THERE'S A BIG YELLOW BALL IN THE SKY 14:05 BillyS xD 14:06 longerstaff13 I wonder if a cat made out of clouds will try to play with it 14:10 rdococ Yay! 14:10 * rdococ creates a cat out of clouds 14:11 * rdococ watches as the cat plays with the yellow ball, confusing people from all over the world 14:11 * rdococ watches as the cat gets super excited, and turns into a yay blob which glows as bright as the yellow ball 14:11 * rdococ then watches as the Earth begins to heat up more and more 14:11 rdococ Oops™ 14:13 * BillyS watches as rdococ gets kicked for off-topic spam™ 14:14 * rdococ uses the SPAM for a sandwich™ 14:16 tenplus1 o/ paramat 14:20 ircSparky quick question, if i return inside a for loop, will it end the loop, or just go to the next thing in the loop? 14:21 rubenwardy end the loop 14:21 rubenwardy return will exit the function 14:21 ircSparky ok 14:21 ircSparky what would i use just to go to the next thing in the loop? 14:21 ircSparky i guess i could just use if and else 14:22 rubenwardy yeah, you will have to 14:22 rubenwardy Lua doesn't have continue 14:23 paramat hi rdococ , playfulness is welcome here but in moderation ;) please could you restrain it a little? and please restrain the yay, the repetition is begining to get annoying 14:26 rdococ I think 5.2 adds a limited goto that can be used for continues but Minetest uses LuaJIT which I don't think supports it 14:26 Krock ircSparky, in some spots of the Lua builtin code there's "repeat ... until true" whereas "break" is used in "..." 14:27 Krock it's quite hacky but works the same way as continue if you put the entire inner loop into the repeat until block 14:27 rubenwardy ew 14:27 ircSparky yea ill just use if 14:27 longerstaff13-m Hi 14:27 rubenwardy I would not approve such code 14:27 ircSparky minetest.get_node(pos).name is how you get a node name right? 14:27 ircSparky hi longerstaff 14:28 longerstaff13-m Hi spark 14:28 Krock rubenwardy, that's why it was written before you did code quality checks :P 14:28 Krock ircSparky, one of the possibilities, yes. 14:29 ircSparky kay thanks 14:29 rdococ Lua just needs continuations already, it would be as simple as allowing goto to jump out of nested functions like they can nested blocks 14:29 rubenwardy sounds like a bad idea 14:30 rdococ there are several things that are now in Lua that are "almost continuations", and with minor adjustments would allow support for proper continuations. plus it goes along with the general theme of Lua as being flexible 14:30 rubenwardy just use a function and return from it 14:30 Krock hmm.. I think I'm wrong with the claim that it's also used in builtin. Either it's not "repeat until" or it was in a regular mod 14:30 rdococ rubenwardy: depending on how often that code is executed that could trash the GC 14:30 rdococ if I understand garbage collection correctly 14:30 rubenwardy LuaJIT ;) 14:30 rubenwardy and I don't think you do 14:31 rubenwardy you could use locals outside the function to avoid that 14:31 rdococ as a rule of thumb, I don't understand anything correctl 14:31 rdococ y 14:31 rdococ including how to type 14:49 tenplus1 o/ aerozoic 14:50 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API update - attack functions working properly with line_of_sight, as does runaway function 14:50 aerozoic wazup tenplus1! 14:50 aerozoic are you saying i should pull some updates? XD 14:51 tenplus1 if you are using mobs redo api then yes :D 15:06 rdococ trying to think of a unique control flow construct nobody has thought of before 15:10 * tenplus1 thought of two before breakfast 15:15 ircSparky yay! 15:16 Fixer [food] 15:16 * tenplus1 has ordered foody 15:18 * rdococ steals tenplus1's food 15:19 ircSparky do node timers work correctly after a shutdown or crash 15:19 ircSparky ? 15:19 tenplus1 *shares*... donner meat wrap with onioin and chili sauce 15:19 tenplus1 ircSparky: they should continue from where they left off 15:19 ircSparky ok cool 15:19 rubenwardy !mod [food] 15:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Food [food][food_basic] by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2960 15:19 rubenwardy my first ever mod 15:19 rubenwardy second released 15:20 tenplus1 hi ruben... is a good mod 15:20 tenplus1 you started the food_ standard for mods 15:25 rdococ food_fattening: cola, McDaniels 15:26 xerox123_ Installing xubuntu yay 15:26 tenplus1 duo yays 15:27 xerox123_ Dell actually has step-by-step guide for dual booting on their website 15:27 rubenwardy !mod [food_sweet] 15:27 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Sweet Foods [food_sweet] support food 2.3 by rubenwardy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9039 15:28 rubenwardy proud of those textures 15:28 xerox123_ So I'm assuming it's supported 15:28 rubenwardy main food ones are terrible 15:28 tenplus1 i feel you 15:28 xerox123_ Noice 15:28 tenplus1 food testures are hard 15:30 xerox123_ Installo completo! 15:30 tenplus1 :P 15:30 rdococ Enstal competeno 15:30 xerox123_ So you get 10 seconds at boot to choose which OS 15:31 rdococ I get to choose between two Linux-based OSes, yay 15:31 rdococ xerox123_: If you press up or down arrow to change your selection then the 10 seconds is cancelled and you get as long as you want 15:31 * tenplus1 has w10 in vbox... 15:31 xerox123_ Yeah ik 15:31 rdococ tenplus1 is running spyware in a VM? 15:31 tenplus1 only when absolutely needed 15:32 rdococ why would you absolutely need malware? 15:32 tenplus1 itunes.... more spyware 15:32 xerox123_ rdococ didn't you use it to play Roblox? 15:32 xerox123_ :P 15:32 xerox123_ Roblox, virtual lego 15:32 xerox123_ ™ 15:32 rdococ xerox123_: hush, I have left that place™ 15:33 xerox123_ Aaaaand I'm into the OS 15:33 rdococ xerox123_: Minetest is flexible enough, completely free, and open source, so it's better than CashGrabBlox 15:34 xerox123_ xfce4 is fully out of the box, time to get customising 15:35 xerox123_ fugly* 15:35 tenplus1 ehehehe, enjoy :) always fun customizing 15:36 xerox123_ I can just grab all my confusion from the windows partition too 15:36 rdococ In the event of a vampire apocalypse, only the garlic eater will survive 15:36 xerox123_ Configs* 15:36 rdococ xerox123_: have you heard of conlangs? 15:36 xerox123_ Does garlic bread count? 15:36 * tenplus1 burps garlic 15:36 rdococ they're spoken languages, but constructed by humans 15:36 aerozoic I wonder if it's possible to add keyword search to unified inventory's craft guide so, for example, a search for "food" could scan for any item that has the "minetest.item_eat" callback? 15:37 rdococ xerox123_: no, you need raw garlic 15:37 xerox123_ :( 15:37 rdococ I like eating garlic so I can keep the vampire boogeyman in the closet so I can harvest his energy 15:39 tenplus1 would be nice to search groups e.g. food_ melty stair 15:42 xerox123_ Setting up hexchat 15:42 * tenplus1 prefers pidgin 15:42 xerox123_ I've used hexchat for 3 years now :p 15:43 * rdococ eats the pigeon and cooks it in the hexchat 15:44 tenplus1 do use go into many channels ? 15:47 aerozoic pidgin is an IRC client? XD 15:47 rubenwardy xerox123_: gtk theme, icon set 15:47 rubenwardy done! 15:47 rubenwardy oh, also customise the panels 15:47 xerox123 hexchat all set up 15:47 tenplus1 yeah, Pidgin has many chat clients inside :) very easy to use 15:47 xerox123 moving the xfce panel to the bottom 15:47 rubenwardy hexchat sucks 15:47 rubenwardy :) 15:47 rubenwardy still better than pidgin 15:48 xerox123 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hexchat works for me soo 15:49 tenplus1 lol ruben, you ever used pidgin for irc 15:49 xerox123 I have ZNC deal with most of my client stuff (autocommands, identifying, etc.) so I can easily move to anything I want 15:54 tenplus1 any idea when 0.4.17 will be official 15:55 xerox123 after the heatdeath of the universe 15:55 tenplus1 aww, suppose it'll have to wait 15:58 Krock tenplus1, if we can do a dev meeting this evening, the release date will be discussed again 15:58 tenplus1 hope it goes to plan 16:00 xerox123 Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (1.88GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.6 GiB Total (6.0 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 258.5 GB / 973.5 GB (715.1 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 730] @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 28m 37s 16:01 tenplus1 xerox, go into terminal and type: sudo mousepad /etc/sysctl.conf 16:01 tenplus1 add this line to the end and save: vm.swappiness = 10 16:02 xerox123 ok 16:02 xerox123 done 16:03 tenplus1 kewl, reboot if ya like but that'll help virtual mem usage and keep things running smooth 16:09 longerstaff13-m Xerox moved to linux? 16:10 xerox123_ seems so 16:12 xerox123 longerstaff13-m: yes 16:12 xerox123 dualbooted 16:12 longerstaff13-m How is it for you? 16:12 xerox123 nothing new 16:12 longerstaff13-m Lol 16:12 xerox123 Ive used this in VMs for years now 16:13 IcyDiamond can someome help me figure out why my server isn't announced 16:13 tenplus1 have you ticked the announce server box ? 16:13 IcyDiamond it says that it announced but its not in the list 16:13 longerstaff13-m Have you tried giving it a few minutes to update? 16:13 IcyDiamond 2018-05-05 11:31:59: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net 16:14 IcyDiamond time is 18:13 now btw 16:14 longerstaff13-m Ah 16:14 IcyDiamond so weird 16:15 xerox123 installing spotify 16:15 IcyDiamond ew 16:15 xerox123 IcyDiamond: is curl installed? 16:15 IcyDiamond #pirate for life 16:15 IcyDiamond xerox123: yes 16:16 longerstaff13-m Arr, pirate 16:17 IcyDiamond http://termbin.lunasqu.ee/03yl 16:18 xerox123 is the server_address set as an IP? 16:18 xerox123 or a domain 16:18 xerox123 for me setting it to an IP usually fixes the issue 16:19 IcyDiamond its a domain 16:19 IcyDiamond ill try ip 16:19 xerox123 what's the domain? 16:19 IcyDiamond icynet.eu 16:19 IcyDiamond ok yeah ip worked 16:19 IcyDiamond fair enough 16:19 xerox123 that AAAA record may have something to do with it 16:20 IcyDiamond maybe 16:20 xerox123 I can't remember the setting in mt.conf for ipv6 16:20 IcyDiamond not my fault it doesnt like ipv6 16:20 IcyDiamond :P 16:21 IcyDiamond damn, hudbars still can't hide the default hearts 16:21 xerox123 # ipv6_server = false 16:21 xerox123 "# Enable/disable running an IPv6 server. An IPv6 server may be restricted 16:21 xerox123 # to IPv6 clients, depending on system configuration." 16:23 IcyDiamond IcyDiamond [::ffff:91.129.101.221] joins game. 16:23 IcyDiamond funny 16:23 IcyDiamond it doesnt seem like it announces 16:23 IcyDiamond lets give it some time i guess 16:24 ircSparky I with villiages wouldnt crash my minetst every few seconds because memory usage is over 90 MB... 16:24 ircSparky wish 16:24 IcyDiamond lol 16:25 ircSparky I mean, I have 16 GB 16:26 Krock reported memory use is not the actual use. See 64-bit patches for LuaJIT (can't recall the issue out of my head) 16:26 IcyDiamond who manages the server list 16:27 xerox123 sfan 16:27 Krock because he's also publishing the stats, sfan5 ^. 16:28 IcyDiamond could it be because my ip changed and it cached the domain or something? 16:28 rdococ decentralized server list? 16:29 xerox123 AFK, bbl 16:39 tenplus1 wb icy 16:39 IcyDiamond ty 16:41 rdococ wicy 16:41 IcyDiamond lol 16:43 rdococ In Tinker's Construct I think there's stuff you have to build in the world rather than just craft, sort of like crafting but more interactive and I like the idea of that 16:43 rdococ IcyDiamond: Do the heatbricks do anything special in melterns? 16:44 IcyDiamond nah, just crafting component 16:44 IcyDiamond but ofc you can use them for building 16:44 IcyDiamond they look nice imo 16:44 IcyDiamond :P 16:48 rdococ I don't get why brick nodes have a top texture that is just more bricks 16:48 tenplus1 yeah, texture sides should match 16:49 rdococ Although heatbricks comes pretty close to matching, it doesn't match perfectly but it does better than some brick nodes I've seen 16:49 rdococ wait, nevermind, looked at another side 16:50 rdococ did Minetest actually crash that time? because sometimes it feels like I'm accidentally pressing a key combination that makes it exit 16:51 rdococ some letter + esc 16:57 IcyDiamond lol 16:57 IcyDiamond alt+f4 for free mese 17:00 xerox123 I got me some KFC 17:02 rdococ xerox123: it's too warm outside for free mese 17:02 rdococ I went outside, and it was very warm 17:02 tenplus1 free ice-cream maybe :D 17:03 rdococ Yay, I have ice cream 17:03 rdococ Oh, wait, it just melted 17:18 rdococ I'm sad that there's no three-notch phone yet 17:19 xerox123 how would one remove the window bar at the top of each window? 17:19 xerox123 esp on firefox 17:19 xerox123 it makes YT vids way smaller unless you're in full screen 17:20 Krock the tab bar or the window decorations? 17:21 tenplus1 press f11 to make browser full screen without bars 17:21 xerox123 I need to see how it looked on windows 17:21 xerox123 brb 17:21 Krock F11 is complete FF fullscreen. I'm not sure if that's wanted 17:22 tenplus1 there shoudl be an option in window settings, full screen disables decoration 17:22 rubenwardy IcyDiamond: I told you 17:22 rubenwardy You need to enable ipv6 support 17:26 xerox123 tenplus1: so on windows the tab row and close, maximise and minimise are on the same row 17:28 tenplus1 xerox123 go into xfce settings and windows you can tailor settings :D 17:30 xerox123 hm, hide window titles when maximised 17:32 tenplus1 yup, there somewhere :D 17:32 xerox123 but then I can't close a window :P (unless I go to the panel at the bottom) 17:34 tenplus1 right click panel and select close 17:34 tenplus1 ur unmaximise 17:34 tenplus1 *or 17:35 tenplus1 or ctrl + Q closes a window 17:35 tenplus1 I remove all buttons except the close for windows :) and use panel to control max/min :P 17:38 * tenplus1 has charged 2x AA batteries with the power of the sun... am gonna sell it back to the grid 17:42 xerox123 cool 17:43 tenplus1 :P 18:07 Megaf Patches that fail or were about to fail in my tube. https://i.imgur.com/zZ0U7td.jpg Quite nice patern tho 18:07 Megaf s/fail/failed 18:08 tenplus1 hi Megaf, whassat 18:08 Megaf latest work I've done on my bike https://imgur.com/a/TJkmKuS 18:08 Megaf cleaning of the drivetrain, general lube, fixing the tubes... 18:08 tenplus1 akk bike wheel 18:08 * tenplus1 remembers to inflate his bike wheels 18:11 tenplus1 o/ sniper 18:22 xerox123 um, minetest opens with the menus looking really big http://i.imgur.com/S9WRmGs.png 18:22 tenplus1 lol, gotta tailor gui_scale 18:26 rdococ xerox123: lol 18:27 tenplus1 I wonder what the gui_scale would be on an 8k monitor :DDDDD 18:27 rdococ I don't even have a 2k monitor 18:27 rdococ unless my tablet counts, I guess 18:27 tenplus1 HD here, that's me :D 18:27 tenplus1 cant even justify using 4k 18:28 rdococ my laptop has a screen resolution of 1366x768, so if I understand the xxxp system correctly that would be slightly more than 720p 18:28 rdococ so I don't even have HD 18:28 tenplus1 half HD... still good ;D 18:28 rdococ true, I guess 18:29 rdococ in the past I had to set undersampling to 2 to play Minetest at an acceptable framerate, making it slightly more than 360p 18:29 rdococ well, the fact that it isn't fullscreen decreases it slightly 18:30 Fixer it is SD quality aka Shitty & Disgusting 18:30 rdococ suit yourself but I don't mind 720p 18:30 Krock Fixer, watch Kung Fury in 144p 18:31 tenplus1 ehehehe 18:31 rdococ I think I once hooked my laptop up to a monitor, but the monitor was 4:3 18:31 Fixer i watched porn in 320x240 18:31 * tenplus1 has 4:3 monitr :D 18:31 Fixer what kind of P is this? 18:31 tenplus1 great movie... so cheesy 18:31 rdococ 16:10 is the best compromise aspect ratio 18:31 Fixer 240p I guess 18:31 rdococ 15:10 is also good 18:31 Fixer 16:9 is shit 18:31 Krock Fixer, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Vector_Video_Standards8.svg 18:32 rdococ Fixer: hey, I have a 16:9 laptop screen 18:32 rdococ Actually, my screen is slightly wider than 16:9 18:32 Fixer rdococ: now find 4:3 laptop and your mind will be blown, huge amount of screen 18:32 Krock it's not listed as a blue box, so I think it's a different standard/format 18:33 Fixer 16:9 is shit for loosers watching in toilet in the darkness their 700mb avi RIP 18:33 rdococ Fixer: based on the size of this 16:9 laptop I think a 4:3 laptop would just be (a) smaller or (b) too large to sit on my bedroom table 18:33 Fixer Krock: QVGA it seems 18:33 rdococ Fixer: look, I appreciate you bashing Windows users but not 16:9 users 18:33 rdococ :P 18:33 Fixer Krock: 320x240 porn on 200 kbit/sec, imagine this 18:34 Fixer running on 270 MHz CPU 18:34 rdococ Fixer: I just use my imagination ;) 18:34 rdococ unfortunately my imagination keeps trying to imagine yay blobs 18:34 Fixer blurry as minetest rendering 18:34 Krock Fixer, that's like 4 56 kbit/s modems in parallel. fast speed. 18:35 Fixer it was predownloaded and preconverted 18:35 Krock I believe VHS was better quality back then :P 18:35 Fixer time when you benchmarked cpu speed in TCPMP by running porn and 320 kbit mp3s 18:36 Fixer screen was like 3.5" or smth 18:37 Fixer also was compromise with bitrait 18:37 Fixer rate* 18:37 Fixer too high was not rendered in 24fps 18:37 Fixer with that tearing stuff 18:37 Fixer tearing on porn is not good 18:39 Fixer god damn audio was awful back then 18:39 tenplus1 8khz 18:39 tenplus1 mono 18:39 Fixer had problems finding good audioplayer for Win PPC 2003 18:40 Fixer it handled 320stereo, but quality was weird 18:51 xerox123 agh, having to tune every little settings 18:52 tenplus1 thankfully you only need to do it once :D 18:53 xerox123 sound is at 100% but it's still silent 18:53 xerox123 near silent* 18:53 tenplus1 go into terminal and type: alsamixer 18:53 tenplus1 check all channels are up 18:53 tenplus1 failing that check pavucontrol (aidio manager) and do same 18:56 xerox123 nodes also seem a little blury when I look at the texture upclose 18:57 tenplus1 turn off antialiasing and shaders maybe 18:57 tenplus1 I always set Texturing to "No Filter" and "No Mipmap" and antialiasing to "None" 19:04 tenplus1 also if using xfce, you could disable compositing on wm to give a speed boost 19:11 xerox123 bbl 19:11 tenplus1 okie 19:26 rdococ Delicious swappiness 19:26 tenplus1 10 is a good number to use :P 19:27 rdococ I think I used 20 19:27 rdococ didn't someone here use 0? what happens if you go OOM? 19:28 rubenwardy swap is such a misfeature 19:28 rubenwardy would rather it just kill processes 19:28 tenplus1 my other desktop has no swap file so swappiness is 0 19:28 tenplus1 never had issue with it :D 19:28 rubenwardy I've been writing high memory programs recently 19:28 rdococ rubenwardy: Does it prioritize the death of certain processes over others? 19:28 rubenwardy 4.7GB to render a scene 19:29 rubenwardy it does, but it tends to let it go into swap 19:29 rdococ E.G. you wouldn't want to accidentally kill the process with that unsaved essay you just finished without saving once for some reason 19:29 rubenwardy google drive 19:29 rdococ Ah. 19:29 tenplus1 erk 19:29 rubenwardy autosaved ;) 19:29 rdococ Ew, google drive 19:29 rdococ rubenwardy loves sharing all of his private documents with Google ;) 19:29 rubenwardy although for an essay I wouldn't use Google drive 19:30 rubenwardy I'd use sharelatex 19:30 * tenplus1 quickly hacks into google drive and reads rubenwardy's stuff 19:30 rdococ Hope you don't keep porn on google drive ;) 19:30 rubenwardy because LaTeX is great 19:30 rubenwardy why would I 19:30 rdococ idk, I don't even watch porn 19:31 rubenwardy the quality of conversation has decreased massively in the last few lines 19:31 tenplus1 quality of conversation in porn has decreased over the lasst 20 years :D 19:31 rdococ Let's discuss how to increase the quality of discussion: metadiscussion 19:31 Shara It may be improved by banning yays. 19:31 rubenwardy oh no 19:31 rubenwardy the horror 19:32 Shara People would need to think of other words to use again!! 19:32 rdococ Shara: Yays weren't involved this time, porn was 19:32 tenplus1 it's like 1982 all over again 19:32 Shara I blame the yays though. 19:32 Shara They have undermined everything. 19:32 rdococ In fact, you were the first person to say yay in quite a bit 19:32 rdococ You are secretly one with the yays 19:32 Shara Just because you don't see them... 19:32 rubenwardy they may take our lives 19:32 rubenwardy they may take our freedom 19:32 rdococ They may take our lines 19:32 rubenwardy but they will never take our yays! 19:33 rdococ Unicorns are said to yay, but they actually yeigh 19:33 Shara This... is why I had to eat the unicorn. 19:33 Shara The things I do for you all. 19:33 Shara Really. 19:33 rdococ Shara: Unicorns don't yay, they yeigh. You didn't stop the yays by eating the unicorn, you just killed a magical creature. 19:34 rdococ Again, you're secretly pretending to fail to stop the yays because you don't want to admit to yourself that you are one with the yays. You started this discussion about yays and you ate a unicorn pretending to think that they yay as opposed to yeigh. The evidence is clear. 19:34 Shara rdococ: I am reclassify you from "yay" to "headache" 19:35 Shara reclassifying* 19:35 tenplus1 xanadu updated with new mob api 19:35 rdococ What does the new mob API do? 19:35 * xerox123 reappears 19:36 * rdococ watches as xerox123 takes rubenwardy's yays 19:37 tenplus1 mob/npc attacks work better :) they use line of sight, chickens no longer runaway from owners 19:37 tenplus1 hi fussel 19:37 IhrFussel Is the craft output slot in UI c++ or pure lua? I mean is it possible to modify the amount to craft at once? 19:38 tenplus1 you can re-register the recipe and have it give more 19:38 tenplus1 will replace curernt one 19:38 rdococ I wonder if CSM will eventually extend to include more complex crafting and node prediction 19:39 IhrFussel tenplus1, hi =) No I mean a player asked me if it's possible to make it so that for example shift clicking the output slot crafts 10 instead of just 1 while also taking more materials 19:39 tenplus1 ohh, that's in engine 19:39 tenplus1 doesnt middle click (scroll wheel) do 10 ? 19:40 IhrFussel tenplus1, that seems to work kinda...thanks 19:40 tenplus1 :PP 19:46 IhrFussel Also another player asks if I could add trees with blue/red/yellow leaves and I wonder how difficult it would be...in theiry I could simply copy the default leaves, change the pixel color and register it as yet another tree type I guess? 19:47 Shara You'd need to make a schematic probably 19:49 tenplus1 you can use default leaves with [color: flag 19:50 IhrFussel Shara, don't I only need that if I want my tree to be unique? Couldn't I just reuse an existing one? 19:51 Shara Fussel, but the node is part of the schematic? 19:51 Shara So if you make a new leaves node, how will you make that node show up instead of the one the schematic actually has? 19:52 IhrFussel So I would have to replace all node names in the file... 19:52 tenplus1 schematic placement has {replacement = {"node1", "node2"} 19:52 Shara It does? Nice then. 19:52 tenplus1 caan use existing tree schem but replace leaves with new ones 19:53 Shara Maybe I can use that for something then :) 19:58 rdococ I'm working on a conlang. 19:59 rdococ Here's an outdated phonology for it: https://i.imgur.com/aLWcbeT.png (outdated as I've made changes since then) 20:00 paramat yes use 'replacements' 20:00 paramat although, i wonder if that works during mapgen .. 20:00 paramat not sure 20:01 paramat might just be for 'place schematic' 20:01 tenplus1 think I've used them during mapgen to replace stone in lava pits to desertstone 20:03 paramat docs will say 20:08 xerox123 idk if I want to keep the dualboot 20:09 tenplus1 problems xerox? 20:11 xerox123 I guess Ill give it a couple days 20:12 xerox123 also, the stats are'nt updating... 20:16 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=20064 20:17 Krock ^ belongs into a MTG issue 20:18 Shara Krock: why? 20:22 Krock Shara, because I've read the title and the 2nd half of his message only for some reason. Never mind. 20:22 Shara :D 20:27 tenplus1 nite folks 20:30 xerox123 fixed the stats, phew! the universe is now back to the natural order 20:33 rdococ What xerox123 did not know is that the universe's natural state is not order, but chaos. 20:43 Krock Game idea, anyone? https://i.redd.it/2zxdgzf2k1w01.png 20:44 Krock plunder the chests in the middle and slaughter everyone else to survive 20:58 aerozoic IhrFussel, unified_inventory_plus mod adds an handy "All" button that crafts the maximum possible with what's in the grid. 20:58 aerozoic UI plus is an add on mod, it enhances UI 21:10 Krock !mod unified_inventory_plus 21:11 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything. 21:36 Megaf I need 56.96 Euro, anyone feeling like donating me some money? 21:55 Megaf !server Megaf 21:55 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms 22:09 IhrFussel !server IFS 22:09 MinetestBot IhrFussel: [2018] IFS (IhrFussel's Server) | 94.16.121.151:25000 | Clients: 15/45, 12/17 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / minetest | Ping: 13ms 22:09 IhrFussel Almost same ping 22:13 IhrFussel rubenwardy, got a link to your server score script? 22:13 IhrFussel Or was it someone else who made it... 22:13 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/6d6882db0cbe1b5b24be 22:17 IhrFussel Thanks...and it's 100% up-to-date with the actual server list calculation? 22:30 rdococ I just heard a cat make an angry noise and a dog bark at it 22:30 rdococ Outside 22:31 IhrFussel "months of game_time (max 8): +6.835858024691358" << my game time is @ 2 years ... why is it only 6.8 points? 22:32 IhrFussel Does it still go higher @ 3 years etc?? 22:33 rubenwardy capped 22:33 rubenwardy max 8 -> max 7 months 22:33 IhrFussel But why such a weird number at cap? 22:33 sfan5 no he's right it should be 8 22:34 rubenwardy *8 22:35 IhrFussel Other servers indeed show +8 ... why is it different with mine? 22:37 sfan5 rubenwardy: found a bug in your script, compare line 78 and 80 22:37 IhrFussel Oh oops...wait I think I misread the output...I looked at the next game time of the next server..ok it says +8 22:38 IhrFussel The format of v option enabled is a bit weird...it first lists the several flags & scores and at the end you see like 4) IFS....[total score] 22:44 IhrFussel "highly loaded server" can decrease the score by 28 points??? 22:48 IhrFussel 5 clients: +5 22:48 IhrFussel 7 guests / 8: +0.875 << how does that work lol